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Timcast IRL - Woke Leftists MOCK Death Of Queen Pissing Everyone Off w/Allie Beth Stuckey
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tim pool
you tragic news today to our brothers and sisters across the
pond our good allies over at the United Kingdom our condolences rest in peace to
the Queen who passed away and
And, you know, with that being said, I know it's a tragic day and I'm already getting triggered myself because instantly you see woke leftists coming out and insulting and spitting on the memory of talking about dancing on the grave of the Queen.
And it's just, have you no decency?
And they don't.
They revel in the pain and suffering of their symbolic enemies and others and people they hate.
And that's the thing that really bums me out.
Look, I was obviously no fan of John McCain.
I did not revel and gloat when he died.
And a lot of people I know did.
A lot of friends of mine did.
And I get it.
It's just not for me.
We had that tweet from the Libertarian Party of New Hampshire the other day showing Meghan McCain crying over her father's coffin.
And I'm just like, that sickens me, dude.
The Queen was one of the most famous, notable figures, powerful, prominent, loved, respected figures in history, and she passed away.
And it's unsurprising now that there are people who are reveling and gloating, so it's gross.
But we're going to talk about that, because I think it shows a delineation between who we are and who they are, and at least trying to have some decency and respect for those who may be suffering or grieving.
We have other news.
A Democrat has been arrested for murdering a journalist, which is kind of surprising because I was told Donald Trump was the one who was going to inspire MAGA Republicans to harm journalists, but here we go.
It's like, there's the story.
And then in D.C., an emergency has been declared.
Because of the migrants that are being sent in.
And it's really funny and hypocritical that the Sanctuary City is upset that they're a Sanctuary City.
How about that?
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Joining us to talk about all of this and more is Allie Beth Stuckey.
allie stuckey
Hello.
Thanks for having me.
tim pool
Absolutely.
Who are you?
allie stuckey
Who am I?
I host a podcast called Relatable on BlazeTV Monday through Thursday.
We talk about culture, politics, news, theology from a Christian conservative perspective.
I wrote a book called You're Not Enough and That's Okay, Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love.
And I do a few other things as well.
tim pool
Have you announced your next book yet or no?
allie stuckey
I have not announced my next book, but it's in the works.
tim pool
All right, right on.
Thanks for joining us.
We also have Hannah-Claire Brimelow.
hannah claire brimelow
Hi, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimelow.
I'm a writer for TimCast.com.
tim pool
Simple enough.
hannah claire brimelow
That's it.
ian crossland
Hardcore.
I'm Ian Crossland.
What's up, dudes?
Good to see you, Ali.
I want to talk about the Queen, but let's start the show before we do, because that's probably our lead-in story, is it?
tim pool
It's the Queen?
ian crossland
Yeah, yeah.
We'll get rock and roll in there.
Lydia, what's happening?
lydia smith
Yeah, for sure.
I'm excited to talk about the Queen, especially since I was so grossed out by the Libertarian Party of New Hampshire's tweet about John McCain.
allie stuckey
Oh, man.
lydia smith
Me neither.
I think we're better than them.
We can act better.
tim pool
That's muted, right?
lydia smith
Yeah, that one's muted.
tim pool
Okay, cool.
We're good to go.
Well, let's jump into the first story, the tragic news.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
From the Daily Mail, have they no shame.
Woke liberals writing for the New York Times, New York Magazine, and the Atlantic waste no time attacking the colonizer queen mere hours after her death, age 96, and hours after Twitter took down vile post mocking Monarch.
Now, I don't know why that tweet got removed.
We should probably look into it before I make my opinion, but I don't think you should be censored for having bad opinions.
I'm glad we get to see these people being awful because I don't want to, you know, mistakenly work with, associate with people who would do something like this.
So, they write, the death of Queen Elizabeth has been celebrated by some opinion writers, with one promising to dance on her grave and another describing her 70-year reign as devastating.
While millions around the world were mourning the death of the 96-year-old, provocateurs were, within hours of her death, mocking the outpouring of grief in some of the most esteemed publications in the United States.
One Pennsylvania professor even said she hoped the Queen's final hours of pain would be excruciating.
Yeah, I don't think that was the case.
You're an awful person.
Jeff Bezos was among those condemning her now-deleted tweet.
Good, I'm glad to see it.
And, uh, it's nasty stuff, man.
It's tough.
I think what we're seeing here is that these people will say anything for woke points.
And so, they know they're gonna be contrarian, they know shock content is gonna get them attention, and here they are now getting it, so I won't get into, you know, their names or whatever, but just point out, like, there are people in this world and in this country that are just...
Evil?
Despicable?
They revel in suffering and pain?
There's a lot to say about the monarchy.
We're starting to debate, you know, the issues of monarchy.
Whether or not there is one after this.
Because I know, you know, what are they saying?
King Charles, I know.
He's assumed to be the throne.
hannah claire brimelow
King Charles III.
tim pool
But is he really?
I mean, he's already very old.
But, I don't know, what do you guys think about the woke stuff?
Let's get into that first.
allie stuckey
Yeah, well it's not really surprising.
I feel like every time a politician or a person dies that people on the left have deemed an oppressor, whether it's true direct oppression or not, they think that they are more virtuous by kind of celebrating that person's death.
I don't think that they just think that it's not bad to do it.
I think they actually think that it is moral and good because to them they see themselves as kind of You know, on the right side of history, and someone like Queen Elizabeth as a white colonizer and oppressor, and therefore, why wouldn't you celebrate her death in the same way that you would celebrate Hitler's death?
Of course, I don't think that's comparable at all.
I don't think that she can be compared to Hitler or any other true oppressor in any way.
But it's not surprising.
It's what they always do.
It's what they did to John McCain.
It's what they did to George Bush.
It's what they did to Barbara Bush.
I mean, it doesn't matter.
That's what they're gonna do.
hannah claire brimelow
I think the Queen is particularly vulnerable to this because Americans have no comparable figure to the monarchy.
Trump!
Well, that's complicated.
Everyone in our office is tired of me saying this, but I'm British, I'm a British citizen and an American citizen, and it is the true divide between what I feel like is my upbringing in America and my British heritage which is that the monarchy is an institution that represents not only political power but a cultural history that is so interwoven with things that are challenging for the British people as well as things that are make them unique and prosperous and I think Queen Elizabeth in so many ways partially because her tenure was so long she reigned for 70 years
There's really no one like her, and during her time you have to remember all of the social, cultural, and technological change that swept through England.
There's really no one like her, and I know, you know, when did the reign of the British monarchy end?
There's a lot of points in history where people will say like, well, this is really effective end, this is really effective end.
To me and to a lot of people that I know, this is the end of the British monarchy because she represents a tie to a history that is so far gone from the culture we have today.
ian crossland
You see Harry?
Is it Harry that left with Meghan Markle?
Is that Harry?
He was basically done with monarchy.
You know, at some point it becomes a burden.
hannah claire brimelow
She became in line for the throne when her uncle resigned and he said, I don't want to be king.
I'd rather marry this American.
And at the time he couldn't marry her and also be king.
So he renounced his title.
Her father became the king and then she became the heir to the throne.
I mean, monarchy has always been to a certain degree optional.
You don't have to take over the role.
There's, I think, British culture, you see it a lot in the obituaries that are coming out right now for Queen Elizabeth, which is that she had a very strong sense of duty and the idea of a sense of duty, at least in the way I was raised and the ties that I saw to my British heritage, was like, this is a big theme.
The idea that you rise to your purpose and you rise to duty and you serve, you know, and I think in a lot of ways, though there are things wrong with the monarchy and I think it's important to be able to criticize your government, Queen Elizabeth really represented that to people.
And even though there are people who don't support the monarchy, they don't love it, they will still mourn this loss because this is the end to an era of British history and British culture.
ian crossland
Yeah, the British Empire, technically she was the empress until about, this says 97, when Hong Kong was ceded over to China again.
That was when the British Empire ended.
So that's when she no longer was the empress.
Of course, you can be a king and an emperor at the same time.
The King of England, the Empire of Britain.
hannah claire brimelow
And she's still the effective head of government in Canada.
I mean, she doesn't really do anything.
She was still the effective head of government, I think, in Australia.
Again, those countries operate independently, but she has such a serious cultural influence that I really think, you know, there are lots of wonderful things about America, but that aspect we don't have, and we chose not to.
We separated from England for a reason, and I think those things are good, but It's really difficult for Americans to understand because we view our political leaders with a level of vitriol, and we know they are temporary.
We know if we fight hard enough, we can push them out.
And that's just not how, you know, this works.
allie stuckey
She was a unifying figure, even for people on the left and the right in Britain.
It seems like a lot of people unified them.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, and I think part of it is, you know, yesterday she met with Liz Truss, who's the new Prime Minister.
She, to the end, was conducting business and is such an integral part of culture and the administrative state of Britain.
You know, we really just don't have anything like that.
tim pool
Do you think that because the royal family... What was that?
lydia smith
Sorry, nothing.
tim pool
Do you think that because they know they're in for life, they try to do a better job of being unifying, as opposed to the politicians here who know they're going to be hated, so they're like, I'm out, screw you.
allie stuckey
I think that's part of their nature, that they're not supposed to be political.
She really didn't comment on politics, and really none of them do, except for Meghan Markle, because she's not interested in that royal title of being a unifier at all.
tim pool
I'm not a fan.
hannah claire brimelow
No.
unidentified
No.
allie stuckey
Of Markle?
Of Markle or Royalty?
unidentified
Markle.
allie stuckey
Oh, okay.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh, I mean, Royalty has its problems.
allie stuckey
Yeah.
tim pool
But, um, you know, I can, look, I don't, I'm not British.
I'm not from the United Kingdom.
So if people there really love her, I'm kind of like, you know, I don't do your thing.
We don't have a queen.
We got rid of that.
ian crossland
Royalty, I think it's horrific.
It's, it's, if you're born into a family, you get to run the country.
Makes no sense.
It's, it's the opposite of meritocracy.
It has no, no basis in a functional reality or a system of merit, of human merit.
I, but that being said, the first thing I thought when the queen died was, I, I was thought of her family and how they're emotional, how they're handling it right now.
Then the second thing was.
Well, when you asked me what I want, everyone looked at me when I walked in and was like, so what do you think about the queen?
And I was like, I, you know, I'd rather that the monarchy ended and that she lived than that she died.
And there's still a monarchy.
I have no problems with her.
She actually seemed like a pretty cool person.
From a distance, from the Western media that I was getting my whole life, seemed like one of the best monarchs in human history, personally.
She was very open.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, she's well-loved.
And remember, she served with 15 prime ministers and 14 American presidents.
And as far as I know, no one doesn't like her.
allie stuckey
Think about everything that you've seen as a 96-year-old.
Think about everything you're going to remember.
hannah claire brimelow
When she was coronated, the first prime minister she worked with was Winston Churchill.
Just like, to put that in perspective, who was born in like 1847 maybe?
Like, I can't even get the dates right.
allie stuckey
I mean, she was like old when I was born.
I was thinking about that earlier.
hannah claire brimelow
There are British people, there are generations of British people, where she has always been the queen.
Like, she's not just on your money, she is always around.
allie stuckey
Well, and I think because the world is so chaotic and because things in the world, and especially in the UK, have changed so much, her steady presence has really kind of helped keep people sane.
And now that she's gone, what's gonna happen?
lydia smith
You don't know.
ian crossland
King Charles.
What's the king gonna do?
The king.
What's a king gonna do?
tim pool
Are they gonna put him on all the money now?
hannah claire brimelow
He gets some money and some stamps.
tim pool
Are there other kings on their money too?
Or is it all Queen Elizabeth?
hannah claire brimelow
Prime Minister?
If I'm remembering correctly, different, just like we do with coins and the dollar and whatever else.
We have different presidents on our currency.
She's on some money and she's on the stamp.
tim pool
Is she on Canadian money, too?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, because she is the head of... I mean, those were part of the British Empire, so she is still the... So she's the Empress.
Yeah, to this day.
tim pool
So Ian was saying she's the Empress.
ian crossland
And now the Emperor is now reigning supreme.
Emperor Charles is back.
Well, technically, the British Empire is kind of amorphous.
They never really said when it ended.
Everyone's just kind of like, yeah, it just kind of ended when Hong Kong was in 97.
They thought maybe the Suez loss of the Suez Canal was really when the British Empire No longer had power.
Maybe it's just exists, you know, du jour, but not de facto.
hannah claire brimelow
Just like she is the figurative head of government of Canada or of like the British Virgin Islands, right?
Like those places all have their own governments and elect their own officials and have their own form of government.
It's kind of in name only that they're still tied to the Empire.
The Empire is not functional as it once was.
ian crossland
I wonder how long the monarchy will last at this point now, because the way Harry was just like, no man, I'm done.
hannah claire brimelow
What I think is that it'll end up going bankrupt.
I think that the monarchy will always be sort of part of it, because you also have to remember, we think of it as like, oh, it's the queen and the prince and she's got those grandkids, but like, actually there are still dukes and duchesses and people, like, there are all kinds of titles in British culture that we don't have.
allie stuckey
So what would that look like?
Like, what would the dissolution of the monarchy actually look like if it went bankrupt?
What would happen?
hannah claire brimelow
Well, my thought is it's very hard to remove the monarchy entirely because they would have to undo how they conduct some governmental business, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
And so to a certain extent there will be enough people who don't, like, who's, it's like, It's King Charles now, then it's William, and then it's George.
So that gives us, like, what?
At least a hundred years, probably more.
I think part of it is that they will become less influential and it becomes unlikely.
Like, I wonder if they'll have to hold some other kind of office.
Their government will evolve.
Well, it's not just enough to be granted this power.
You have to have something else.
tim pool
I think, you know, Charles has got to bring it back to their roots.
Start issuing letters of marque, sending out naval destroyers and, like, private vessels to raid cargo ships and just I think that'd be fascinating.
Bring back colonization!
allie stuckey
There we go.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, where are we colonized?
That's the thing.
tim pool
Well, China's colonized.
ian crossland
Mars.
I mean, we're talking about 21st century colonization.
hannah claire brimelow
Would you be psyched about the monarchy if tomorrow King Charles is like, I'm sending something to the moon?
ian crossland
No, hell no.
It's got to be done in a decentralized, earthen way where we're all in it together.
Because if we start, what's going to happen is corporations.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't think that's going to happen.
ian crossland
It's going to be corporations starting to colonize it.
Yeah, that's already true.
And that's going to be like, talk about a monarchy.
tim pool
the owner of the corporation. While they're actively criticizing colonization and they're
like these people, China's actively colonizing. They're literally colonizing. It is literal
colonization. Africa, South America, yep. And even Australia and America and Europe.
Yeah. It's, you know, because their idea of colonization is like,
they think white people are evil. Yeah.
So they assume a bunch of white people get on a boat and they all have like devil horns and pitchforks like, yeah, we're gonna go kill other people.
When in reality, it was like people saying, there's not a lot of land here anymore.
I'm gonna get on the boat and go find a better place to live.
So what's happening now with colonization in China is that it's just regular Chinese citizens being like, I'm gonna move to the United States and go live in New York.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm gonna move to Vancouver.
tim pool
And then what happens is large swaths of these populations move into these areas.
They create, you know, little cultural centers, little Chinatowns and things like that.
And that is literal colonization.
allie stuckey
Well, it's a lot more nefarious than not in places like Africa and South America.
The Chinese government is going in there and saying, oh, you want a railway?
Great.
You get to, you know, pay us this amount of money.
Ethiopia can't pay them back for it.
Oh, you're in debt to us.
Now we own you.
So it's not as much like creating Chinatown as, hey, we're going to Literally take over your country by putting you in debt.
tim pool
But I just wanted to differentiate between the evil vision of colonization that these woke leftists think versus when you just have a large population moving around and moving into places.
unidentified
But you're right.
tim pool
They also have the Belt and Road Initiative.
They're doing a bunch of these deals, like you mentioned.
They are actively doing oil exploration in Africa and South America.
They wanted to dig a Nicaraguan canal to compete with Panama.
They are expanding rapidly.
Not to mention the South China Sea.
So you want to talk about modern colonization.
Maybe we can get some of our friends over on the woke left to criticize it, but somehow I just don't think they're going to do it.
ian crossland
They usually criticize the Israeli colonization of the West Bank.
When you talk about colonizing, it could be barren land.
People go and create a colony there of people.
That's a form of it.
But then there's also where you go and seize someone's property and then you set up your house there, which is also a form of colonization, but they're completely different really ethically.
One of them, you're not displacing humans.
The other one is you're seizing people's land.
So in Israel, for instance, there's a lot, and I get a lot of the media through the Western media, so it's hard to parse what's happening.
But I've seen videos of people getting off of buses, like Israelis or Americans that have been invited there to colonize the West Bank.
And they get off the bus with mattresses in their arms and just run, and they're all charging, racing to get to the house first, where the Palestinian guy's not home, and then they take it.
They go in and they're like, this is my home now.
If you mess with me, the police will shoot you.
So we took it.
allie stuckey
Yeah, I'd want to dig into that.
I think people have talked about that, and there's something about that that I don't fully understand.
ian crossland
That's intentional.
tim pool
We're not talking a lot about it.
ian crossland
It's the two biggest colonizers on earth right now are the Israelis and the Chinese.
tim pool
That is 100% not true.
ian crossland
Then who's the other second one?
tim pool
Bro, Israel is so small.
How many people live in Israel?
There's a billion and a half people in China.
ian crossland
Don't talk per capita.
allie stuckey
They're colonizing the West Bank.
What else are they colonizing?
tim pool
Gaza, the West Bank.
ian crossland
But I'm talking per capita.
We're talking about what percentage of the population are colonizing right now.
Israel's relatively low.
I mean, it's colonizing.
It's been colonizing since 1963.
allie stuckey
I mean, I just don't know.
I wouldn't be, you know, arguing with you just for argument's sake.
tim pool
We're talking about one of the most populous nations on the planet with a billion and a half people.
Having their citizens either freely move or military expansion onto every continent on the planet, even Antarctica to a certain degree.
It's just like, there's no reason to bring up Israel in that context.
unidentified
Eight million people.
ian crossland
The two largest.
tim pool
Yeah, come on.
No, you can't compare 1.3 billion to eight million.
ian crossland
Yeah, but you gotta go per capita.
I'm not talking about- What do you mean per capita?
Per capita, it's very much, you have much less probably in China because there's so many people and so few relative colonizers.
tim pool
I don't know, what's this obsession with Israel?
You're talking about like a nation- I'm not obsessed with Israel.
I'm talking about right now you're like hell-bent on talking.
ian crossland
Are you denying that they're colonizing the West Bank?
tim pool
But what does that have to do with global expansionism?
allie stuckey
But is that colonizing?
Wouldn't they say that that was their land in the first place?
That they were the first people there?
Because they were, historically.
I don't even know.
I don't know your argument.
I haven't seen the video.
I don't know the evidence of what you're talking about.
I would just be curious because I haven't really heard about it.
ian crossland
The argument of why?
It starts with, I think, at the end of... Or just if it's actually happening.
allie stuckey
Like, where else are they colonizing?
You look at China.
They're all over the world colonizing.
Like, where's Israel going?
ian crossland
Right.
A lot of people, I think, consider it ethical colonization because it's internal.
hannah claire brimelow
But, you know... The population of New York City is, like, what, nine million people?
So it'd be like, are you comparing it to, like, if the population of New York spread out across the country?
Is that colonizing?
tim pool
You know, like if if a bunch of New Yorkers started going from Manhattan to Jersey City, I went to Florida and they were like fighting and they were like rides and stuff.
I'd be like, it's bad.
But I just don't know how you compare the size of population to what China is doing.
I mean, it's not like Israel is sinking, you know, Vietnamese shipping vessels, firing missiles over neighboring islands into territorial waters of other countries.
Whoa, whoa, Hamas and Israel have been firing missiles into each other's territory for Yes, you're talking about a small regional conflict of great consequence compared to China expanding in the South China Sea.
ian crossland
No, I'm not comparing.
I guess there's a comparison in that they're both colonizing.
allie stuckey
You're just saying they're the first and the second.
ian crossland
The two largest colonization programs on Earth right now are in Gaza, West Bank, and the Chinese in Africa, I believe.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure that's just not true, and that's a weird thing to say.
hannah claire brimelow
I wouldn't call what's happening in Israel colonization.
tim pool
I would say Russia is probably the second biggest colonizer.
ian crossland
In what aspect?
They're invading right now.
There's a military invasion.
tim pool
Yes.
And then also just the expansion of like, there's more Russian troops and people spreading out than Israeli.
ian crossland
Do you have that number somewhere?
tim pool
Bro, Russia took Crimea and now they're invading.
ian crossland
That's an invasion though. It's different.
A colonization is like not military. I mean, I guess there's fight.
There could be fighting involved.
tim pool
I don't get the point you're trying to make.
allie stuckey
I think California is colonizing Texas and Arizona and Colorado.
hannah claire brimelow
I think New Yorkers are colonizing Florida.
They left during COVID and they're like, we like it here.
We're going to stay and bring everyone.
I mean, it's a hard comparison to make.
I understand what you're saying, that there is conflict there and it feels like one force has more power than the other.
But I wouldn't classify what's going on in Israel as colonization more than regional conflict.
ian crossland
Israel was a British and French colony at the end of World War I. They promised the Allied forces, the British, French and Italians promised that area to the Arabs, if the Arabs would betray the Ottomans.
So the Arabs were like, oh, you're gonna give us this area that's now Israel?
You're gonna give this to the Arabs?
Yeah, we'll betray the Ottomans.
They betrayed the Ottomans.
The French and English won the war.
And then they said, you know what, Arabs?
We're gonna renege on our offer.
We're gonna keep the land for ourselves.
And then they created the Sykes-Picot Agreement.
And that basically set up Israel as we know it, but it was very small.
And then over the next 30 or 40 years, I think there was like a military buildup.
And then all of a sudden in the, what was it?
The fifties, I think they had the seven day war was in 1957, 1963, all around that time.
Um, and, uh, just conquered a lot of land around it, whether you want to consider that colonization or not.
allie stuckey
Here's the question.
Is all colonization wrong?
Do you think?
ian crossland
It's a good question.
You asked that before the show, too.
tim pool
I don't.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't either.
tim pool
There's this romanticizing on the left about Native Americans, for instance.
They want to believe this narrative of the evil white man from Europe coming and just massacring all the natives.
It's like, oh, but don't get me wrong, there's a bunch of really bad history there, of course.
Lands get conquered, war breaks out, and some people win out over others.
But it's like, I don't know, man, the Aztecs were kind of brutal, you know?
They were warring with each other, they were sacrificing people, ripping out their hearts and stuff like that.
So it's hard to say, you know, but based on our standards as Americans with a constitution, the answer is yes.
If you think our standards are better than other countries' standards.
So Hong Kong, for instance, I think you were mentioning this before the show, it seems to be getting really bad for them now with China moving in because we don't think China's values are good values.
They're authoritarian.
I think Hong Kongers, yeah.
I think they would have thought so.
I mean, they're the ones that are being thrown in jail for being dissidents.
camps.
So would Hong Kong be better off with, you know, Western colonization?
I think the people there thought so.
allie stuckey
I think Hong Kongers, yeah, I think they would have thought so.
I mean, they're the ones that are being thrown in jail for being dissidents.
And so I would say that, you know, they try to champion free speech, which are Western
values.
These are not universal values.
I mean, what would it be?
I don't know that the ends necessarily justify the means in all of these cases, but was Hong Kong better off as a
British colony? 100%.
tim pool
Yeah, imagine what this country, what the United States would look like if no one ever came here. I mean, what
would it be? I can't imagine that it would be substantially well developed.
allie stuckey
Well, I think leftists have this fantasy. I've noticed this.
They've got this like romantic fantasy in their head that before civilization, things were better.
That if we all went back to living in tribes and just like living off the earth and that we would be better off than we were, than we are now with civilization.
tim pool
It is objectively better to stub your toe and then die from the infection, right?
allie stuckey
Yes, that's true.
Antibiotics are bad.
tim pool
Yeah, exactly.
hannah claire brimelow
Western medicine for the win!
ian crossland
Tribal life was pretty brutal.
unidentified
There was tribal chieftains ruled by force.
hannah claire brimelow
I think we're insulated from brutality in a certain extent because of the way we live now, because of modern conveniences.
I also think that And I'm grateful for that.
I don't want to say that I would prefer to live in a more brutal time.
But I also think that we are used to a certain level of stability that was just not true for most of global history.
I mean all of the borders of countries that we see now, even if you don't like that they
were part of colonization, they exist because we went through a period of exploration and
discovery.
I mean no one today is going to get on a boat and be like, I'm going to find some land and
see what happens there.
Like we can't do that because we know what's out there.
You'd be nice, but it's not going to happen.
tim pool
You'd just go find like an uninhabited island in the middle of nowhere and be like, I'm
going to build this up, you know, make something out of it.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm going to turn it into something.
We can't do that because it belongs to everyone now because we've explored the world.
Like that time period is difficult for us to relate to, which I think helps feed this
narrative that colonization was bad because we don't really know what life was like while
tim pool
Here's a funny thing.
There's a story I've told before about this woke guy I was talking to in North Dakota, and it was at the Dakota Access Pipeline protest.
I said, you know, I have to leave by tomorrow because I have a meeting in Los Angeles, and I got to drive from North Dakota to LA, which is crazy.
Not a meeting tomorrow, but in a few days, so I got to leave tomorrow.
And then he was like, nah man, you shouldn't do that.
Meeting schedule that's colonial thinking and then I was like what what does that mean?
He's like it's colonial thinking man like like having a meeting in a schedule the Native Americans don't have that
They like wake up when they need to and they get to work and they get it done. And then I was like
Having a meeting is colonial thinking like what are you saying? Like what does that mean? Like that? I'm tracking
time He's like, yeah, like the colonizers from Europe came and they brought these schedules in time, you know, these, these meetings.
And then I was like, what are you talking about, dude?
Like Asians had schedule, have schedules too.
They're not white people in their minds.
They think colonization is all modern success and all modern success is bad.
And I'm just like, you're a white supremacist with a guilty conscience.
allie stuckey
Yes, they attach everything that they don't like to colonialism and white supremacy, like the gender binary.
There was this, like, New York Times article the other day saying maternal instinct is a myth that was created by, like, Western men in order to oppress women.
And I always go back to, like, whether you believe the Bible is the inspired word of God or not, it is still a book that was written at least 6,000 years ago by Eastern brown men.
And, like, literally one of the very first verses of the Bible says that God made them male and female.
So, the gender binary is neither Western nor Modern.
And so, it's so funny when people think that we can't see back in history.
hannah claire brimelow
Also, isn't this like a bigoted point of view to take?
To be like, you know, Native American people couldn't schedule or figure out time.
That seems like a horrible stance to be like, only white people know how to make appointments.
What are you talking about?
allie stuckey
Yeah, that's what they said.
The African American History Museum, remember a couple years ago, they put out that page on their website that was like, Being on time, and having lists, and having schedules, that's all part of- Delayed gratification.
Yeah, that's all part of white supremacy.
tim pool
I had to tell this guy, I was like, dude, Asians invented the compass 1,000 years before your ancestors did, so don't come to me and talk about how the white man created everything, because you just, you're a white supremacist, you genuinely think white people did everything that- Right.
Get out of here with that stuff.
But that's their attitudes.
They're on the left.
And they're the good people because they recognize that they are the superior race, but they should be nicer to poor people.
It's like, get out of here, dude.
unidentified
I think that's such a horrible stance to take.
tim pool
That's their stance!
I'm like, this idea that you, so when I asked him about this, when I said, Asians have schedules, Brody goes, yeah, but that came from colonies, colonization.
And I was like, what?
And he's like, like the white colonists came to China and East Asia and brought that with them.
And then I, and that's when I was like, dude, they invented the compass a thousand years before Europeans did.
And gunpowder, like pretty sure they were doing their thing before you got there.
That's crazy that he thinks he's the not racist.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Amazing.
ian crossland
Algebra is a Arab.
allie stuckey
Yes.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
It means the algebra.
ian crossland
It actually means the reunion of broken parts or bone setting.
unidentified
What?
allie stuckey
Wow, that makes sense.
That makes sense.
It's cool.
tim pool
Yeah, it's cool.
Let's jump to some domestic issues.
Here's a story.
Officials' DNA found at slain Las Vegas reporter's crime scene.
What is this about?
Well, there was a Democrat who lost his reelection.
His name was Robert Telles.
He was arrested late Wednesday for murdering a journalist.
Because the journalist had been writing stories about him that were negative and it cost him the election.
Now, the funny thing is, you know, the immediate assumption a lot of people have is that he did it.
You know, and I'm like, yeah, he's innocent until proven guilty, man.
Come on.
We don't know that this guy did it.
And don't expect me to trust the journalist in this story.
So it's like, you got a Democrat to see the bad guy.
You got a journalist.
Who's the bad guy?
What happened?
And I'm like, I don't know, because I don't know what happened.
Like, sure.
I think from reading this, it really does sound like, in my opinion, journalists are probably lying about this guy.
So there's multiple people in this race, but he's writing about this one guy over and over again, like obsessed with him.
Numerous stories.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you have any experience with that?
tim pool
It strikes me as weird.
Well, yeah, personal bias.
I'm like, what's the obsession?
There's multiple people in this race.
So why is this one guy you don't like?
But I don't know for sure.
What I can say is, for all we know, this Democrat had nothing to do with it, and he's just a lead suspect.
For all we know, he was there, but then he left, and so they're like, you're at the scene of the crime, so you're under arrest.
For all we know, the journalist was trying to stab him with a pen or something, I don't know.
And he defended himself.
hannah claire brimelow
I think we all agree murder is not good.
We're against it.
And, of course, innocent until proven guilty.
I think that's why it starts to be like, we need more evidence.
If his DNA is found at the crime scene, how do we know it's his?
Like, what is the context here?
The weird detail about this story to me was that he, like, arrived at his home in a hazmat suit.
tim pool
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Which I was sort of like, but that's a old-fashioned choice.
tim pool
And they saw him doing it, right?
They were, like, waiting for him or something?
There's a video of him in the suit and they're like, did you kill him?
hannah claire brimelow
Journalists were waiting at his home.
So like, I don't know who tipped them off or what the context there was.
allie stuckey
But yeah, that's weird.
But it's kind of like what you were saying earlier before we started recording.
We keep hearing or we've heard for the past few years that an instance like this is going to happen on the Republican side.
It's going to be a Republican that goes after a journalist and kills them because of all Trump's, you know, anti-press Rhetoric and, well, I don't know if this guy really did it, but if he did do it, then that's not the case here.
It wasn't the anti-press rhetoric from Republicans that caused this guy to possibly kill the journalist.
hannah claire brimelow
Right, and if this journalist, you know, if everything he's writing was full of emotion and it's not, you know, it's very biased and maybe not factual, like, that's terrible reporting and that is serious, but you don't get to vigilante kill him.
That's not how this works either.
tim pool
Right, right.
I just, it is interesting to me that so many people immediately jump to, aha, the Democrat.
And then I'm like, well, let's see how this one plays out.
But there is a very interesting point in that Donald Trump kept calling the press the enemy of the people.
The fake news was the enemy of the people.
And then we saw people like Brian Stelter.
I loved this because he wrote an article three years ago where he said, Trump falsely accuses news organizations of fabricating sources.
Then a couple years later, you get USA Today caught fabricating sources.
So it's like, yo, I'm an apology.
But they kept saying that Trump's rhetoric was dangerous.
It was gonna get journalists killed.
And now it's actually a Democrat being accused of doing it.
So it's like, is there gonna be an apology across the board for the Trump supporters who are restraining themselves?
Because apparently Trump said that the real opponent was the media that they were running against, because it's not the Democrats, it's the media.
So any apologies or no?
They're gonna keep pushing the narrative that MAGA Republicans are the evil ones, are the dangerous ones, are the threat.
I mean, this is in line perfectly with Antifa going around smashing up windows, destroying businesses, killing people.
And then they ignore it and say, yeah, but the Trump supporters are the problem.
allie stuckey
Yeah, I've barely even heard about this story, honestly, besides us talking about it and seeing some conservative commentators talk about it on Twitter.
And so, obviously, if this were a Republican, we'd be hearing about it constantly.
We'd be seeing tears and quivering chins on CNN, like, oh my goodness, it's so difficult for me to come to work every day.
We already saw AOC say in GQ that she doesn't even know if she's going to be alive in September.
And so there would be journalists saying the same thing, and they would say, this is the cost of Republican extremism, but now it's barely a peep.
tim pool
Well, we talked about this the other day, AOC saying she didn't know if she was going to be alive.
What do you think she meant by that?
allie stuckey
I think that she thinks that the same people who apparently put a dagger to the throat of democracy on January 6th, they're going to come kill her in her apartment before she can, you know, zip away in her Tesla.
tim pool
Zip away in her Tesla.
Those things go fast.
We talked about it too, but I think there's a possibility that she's depressed.
allie stuckey
Oh, I think so.
I think she deals with really serious insecurity, probably.
But also this insufferable arrogance, which I don't think is the exact opposite of deep insecurity.
I think they often go hand in hand.
And to me, she seems like she's unsure of herself while also trying to kind of present herself as totally
sure, if that makes sense.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
I posited that she is maybe going through a transition in her beliefs.
And she can't transition.
tim pool
Red-bellying.
hannah claire brimelow
Yes, that's what I'd like to suggest.
I mean, she just got engaged this year.
Perhaps she's talking about having a family.
And now she is maybe having to face some of the consequences of the policies that she's pushed.
Maybe she doesn't feel that way.
And she's become the figurehead for, I don't want to bore everyone who's listening,
specifically Tim and Ian, who heard me make this pitch last night.
But she was the poster child for this liberal, Green New Deal,
pro-feminist squad.
allie stuckey
That would be amazing if she changed.
hannah claire brimelow
She can't leave politics and she can't reverse her opinion.
I don't like that for politicians.
allie stuckey
So I think that she was, whether it's in her head or real, it seems like she was really shaken up after January 6th.
She's talked multiple times in interviews about how she's gone to therapy, how she was scared that she was going to get raped, scared that she was going to get murdered.
She talks a lot more now, it seems like, than she used to about Men, and how she feels objectified.
I do wonder, like, that whole big booty Latina thing that happened with Alex Stein.
Like, her fiance literally did nothing.
Just, like, stood there with their little dog.
Like, I do wonder how much of, like, a stable force he is in her life.
And if he actually makes matters kind of worse for her to have, like, a weak man by her side.
I don't know.
unidentified
That would make me sad.
tim pool
We should do a skit about Dr. AOC and Mr. Republican AOC or whatever where she like drinks a formula and then starts turning into a Republican.
Like her dress turns from blue to red and she's like... Then she's like wearing a Trump hat.
ian crossland
That'd be awesome.
The Alex Stein, the big booty thing where he approached her on the steps.
I'm kind of sad about the way it has been playing out because I feel like it's for Alex Cortez that she could totally just laugh with him and laugh about it and like, what?
Dude, come on.
He's like a comedian guy.
tim pool
Well, that's how you get him.
ian crossland
He might even run for politics someday.
Like, it could work out.
You know, he's not like, he's a really smart guy and he has a lot of compassion.
And it was very unfocused for a while, and he's starting to hone it in, and I would love to see them smooth that over and get serious.
tim pool
See, she didn't know how to handle a troll, right?
Alex Stein knew what he was doing, and he has this really great bit.
I watched a video of him recently where there's people protesting him.
And he's laughing, saying, I love you.
You're amazing.
This is so awesome.
I'm so honored to have people protesting just for me.
We made it, guys.
This is so big.
That's how you handle it.
Because they're trying to rile you up.
If AOC started laughing and she, like, winked at him and then waved, it would have all blown over.
It would not have been effective.
allie stuckey
Which she kind of did in the video, which is why it was so funny.
She kind of was like, oh, haha, funny.
And then she made the video, like... Exactly.
Adding all the adjectives to her butt that, like, he did not say.
I think she added, like, juicy, luscious.
I'm like, he didn't even say that.
hannah claire brimelow
Maybe that's why she did it.
She's like, he's not, he's not actually reported.
tim pool
No, no, no.
She's, it's, it's, it's like, it's like an insecurity thing where it's like, he was saying, he said, my booty was luscious.
unidentified
I work out and I'm mad that he noticed.
hannah claire brimelow
I think that AOC is this interesting study in someone who doesn't have a clear path forward.
She has a lot of ways she can fall from this coveted position and I think she's not good at dealing with trolls or negative feedback because she has been celebrated for so long as this like iconic young democrat Latina and like if those are things that you're proud of cool celebrate them but I think when you come from the opposite end of the political spectrum when you're more conservative like you often are in a position where you think that you are going i mean i'm sure this has been true for you in your careers like you're in spaces where you are often the enemy right you're often the wrong opinion and you get used to sort of having to let things roll off your shoulders if you are in a circle we're competing for praise you know you have very few people who are probably saying like i i don't like what you're saying she probably has a lot of people like i like her saying but i'd like it even more if you said this
tim pool
I gotta say, I could not imagine the stress she probably deals with.
It's probably unbearable.
hannah claire brimelow
I can't imagine.
tim pool
Because we know how awful it is on the left when you're dealing with cancel culture.
So I have a friend who is a lefty guy, and he was saying that someone he knows and has worked with is getting cancelled right now for a wrong thing or something.
And then he's like, do you think I should criticize him, call him out too?
Or should I just try and keep my head down and say nothing?
And I said, I think it's insane that you choose to live that way.
So this is a guy who's on the outside.
He's in an industry that's woke and he's like, this is how it is.
So do I join the mob or do I hide from them?
Imagine being at the epicenter of the mob, like AOC, and everyone's constantly glaring at you with darted evil eyes waiting for you to say the wrong thing.
She probably doesn't know what to say half the time.
She's probably, like, sitting there sweating bullets, terrified that at any moment it could all be ripped away from her by cancel culture.
allie stuckey
You think so?
I have a hard time believing the left would turn on her.
I mean, unless she went, like, full MAGA.
I mean, she says a lot of really stupid stuff, and the left has never been like, hmm, maybe we shouldn't be putting her on the cover of magazines.
tim pool
She got attacked when she walked back her stance on Israel and Palestine.
unidentified
Oh, she did.
tim pool
So you're just saying being on the left is like you're constantly in a precarious position.
were like you said something that you know Israel was an apartheid I can't
remember exactly what it was and then she was like well I should probably look
into that a little bit more and they started relentlessly attacking her
unidentified
saying like how could you do this you're you're going corporate. Being on the left is
allie stuckey
like you're constantly in a precarious position like you're constantly walking
tim pool
on eggshells. Always.
Like, so imagine being surrounded by zombies.
allie stuckey
Yeah.
tim pool
And you're pretending to be a zombie.
And if you slip up, they're coming for you.
allie stuckey
Yeah.
tim pool
But imagine being on the pedestal with every zombie looking at you.
You can't screw up.
hannah claire brimelow
And she has to have an answer for everything.
It has to be the right answer.
I mean, that is a tremendous amount of pressure.
allie stuckey
Well, especially when she can't, she's really not, and I'm not just trying to be like, like troll her.
Like, she really isn't a very good talker.
Like, she really doesn't talk very well.
She has a hard time talking.
And so I can't imagine.
Maybe that's why.
Maybe it's because she has to overthink every single word that comes out of her mouth.
I don't know.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't know.
I mean, what I said the other day was, you know, what if, you know, she's getting married?
What if she wants to not run for re-election?
She wants to start her family and she wants to be in New York more.
allie stuckey
I would love that for her.
hannah claire brimelow
But can you do that when you are the champion of, you know, feminism and like, you know, women at work?
allie stuckey
She could be an influencer.
She'd probably make a lot of money.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean I think I wouldn't I personally wouldn't care I wouldn't think less of what she you know I think she would be as committed to whatever ideology but I could see other people who feel like she is the example of the young successful professional who was a bartender and she hustled she got to congress and you know whatever she's doing and if she says like my family life is more important to me than politics and this career like there are people who I think would really drag her for that and I can't imagine having to you know It's not just drag her, I just wonder who's behind her.
allie stuckey
Like the people who first chose her and put her up and are pushing her to be this like representation of like the future revolution.
I feel like She probably has a lot of pressure behind the scenes that we don't even see.
hannah claire brimelow
I just, I think she must get it from all directions, and even though I don't agree with her the majority of the time, I would argue to say almost all of the time, I still have a lot of, you know, I just, I would hate to be in her position in some respects.
It must be unbearable at times.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think about, I don't want to turn people off from running for office because we need people, good people in office, but how horrifying it would be to serve on the bridge of the Death Star.
Like, they're creating, where do we go to war next?
Where do we send the military machine on Earth?
Who do we kill?
Who do we defend?
Who do we kill so that we can defend what?
Where do we get our lithium?
Where do we get our oil?
Where do we get, and it's not all Congress, but I mean, that's stress on top.
I think that's part of this redpilling.
You said that you feel like she's having some sort of mental resurgence or evolution.
hannah claire brimelow
I just wonder.
I speculate.
ian crossland
Like, once you realize that you're, like, the bad guy and that we're, like, our government has been the bad guy for, like, 70 years.
There's a lot of bad guys.
We're all pretty much a bunch of brutes beating each other in the playground is, like, what governments are on Earth up to this point.
But it's not like, you're not going in to smile, wave, and then, you know, sign some legislation so that everyone gets their food.
There's not enough food.
We don't have enough food for everybody.
Or if we do, it's not organized properly.
That's why people are starving in places.
tim pool
I kind of feel like, though, that she's a narcissistic sociopath.
So, I don't know if she actually has those feelings.
And I know that might be, like, I'm not trying to be hyperbolic or, you know, like, overtly demonized.
Like, I genuinely think the things she's done signify that she's a narcissistic sociopath.
Like, she lied about what happened on January 6th.
She totally fabricated this insane story that made no sense.
The timeline didn't make sense.
You know the story where the guy knocked on her door and said, where is she?
Yeah.
She said, oh, I think they, like, she implied the rioters got to her and she was scared of that.
But at that point in her story, based on her own timeline, the Capitol had not even been breached.
It wasn't breached until an hour later.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So she just literally fabricates this whole story.
Yeah.
And then what kind of person is willing to do something like that?
Because the thing is, she's been caught.
She's been caught, she's exposed for doing it, and she still doesn't care.
Because she's got her little cultists who follow her and just believe what she says.
ian crossland
I don't know if I would call it narcissism.
I think about humility and pride.
Being humble isn't self-hatred.
Being proud isn't self-love, necessarily.
What is narcissism?
Excessive self-love to a fault?
allie stuckey
Yeah, that you orient everything around you, which I would agree with the narcissism piece.
I don't know if I would say that she's a sociopath.
Unfortunately, I just think that people are bad people without having some kind of like psychological diagnosis.
I think that she just thinks about herself it seems like constantly, which is part of why I think she's really sad. Like, and part of the
reason why she can't take any criticism really, because every time someone criticizes her for a
totally valid reason, she turns it into, this is an attack on my identity. Well, no one's ever
tim pool
criticized her. They're only trying to date her. Exactly. I was gonna say, I remember when she went to
hannah claire brimelow
Florida with her boyfriend and people were like, wait, this is like against lockdown protocol.
And she was like, stop trying to date It's crazy.
allie stuckey
I mean, that's something that a narcissist would say.
Most people, even if you didn't think it was fair, that's not where your mind would go.
tim pool
Let's talk about actually walking on eggshells.
We got this story.
Steve Bannon charged with money laundering and conspiracy.
So as much as there may be some stressors for the woke left because they might get cancelled, I'm sure they view that stress as preferable to being targeted by the DOJ for what, well, you know, I'll be careful here.
I am reluctant to trust the DOJ or, in this instance, New York State's, it's the Southern District, actually no, this is New York State, this is Letitia James.
I don't trust any of this stuff.
I don't believe them.
Sorry, been there, done that.
Russia gate, Ukraine gate, get out of here with all this nonsense.
Now they're criminally charging Bannon, again, because he was just charged with contempt of Congress.
They're going nuclear against the MAGA Republicans.
I expect it'll get way worse.
I'm curious if you guys think they'll indict Trump before the midterms.
allie stuckey
Before the midterms?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I think they will indict Trump.
I don't see what all of this would be for if they weren't, I don't know, about before the midterms.
Maybe.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't think they'll do it before the midterms.
I just feel like it's not going to move fast enough.
But I will say that I think Letitia James is just a very clear example of judicial activism.
I think that she very selectively picks her cases and You know, has a clear agenda, which I would not want if I were a person from New York as my Attorney General.
tim pool
So what would you call it if, at the federal level, at the state level, Democrats are taking positions of authority in prosecutors' offices, in the DA's offices, in the federal government, in the attorneys, you know, they're getting jobs as attorneys and judges and stuff like that.
It's like corruption or something.
using that power specifically to target their political rivals, lock them up, shut them
down, take away their rights.
What do you call that?
What's going on?
hannah claire brimelow
It's like corruption or something.
It's crazy.
tim pool
Just corruption?
unidentified
Corruption is not a strong enough word.
hannah claire brimelow
I think what is challenging for a lot of people is that this is part of strategic, strategic installment of sympathetic people at certain levels of government.
So if people are interested in influence elections, you could say you should run for office, but you could also say you should work at the polls, you should be in this county position, you should do whatever.
And I think that The placement of prominent Democrats in offices of Attorney General was something that most people wouldn't think to do because they think it should be a nonpartisan position, right?
They don't think we should put someone who has a certain political agenda there.
We should put someone who's a really good lawyer, really good at the law.
tim pool
I just mean— Would you call it fascism?
No, it's not that.
I mean, fascism is an element in authoritarianism.
What we're seeing is that ideologically driven Democrat types are intentionally infiltrating these offices, like the Soros prosecutors, to get their people out of jail and to put their opponents in jail.
It is some kind of subterfuge or... Yeah, it's a subvertive cronyism, maybe.
I mean, but it's...
I don't want to say civil war.
I know.
Everybody's getting ready to drink.
Because it's not quite there, but it's something close to that, where a political faction is weaponizing the government to shut down their political opponents, and their political opponents are just sitting there and taking it.
allie stuckey
Well, on MSNBC the other day, a commentator said the civil war may have already started.
tim pool
That's right.
allie stuckey
Now, they didn't really specify exactly what they meant by that.
They were commenting on Biden's speech, but that's a little frightening.
Only one side is really fighting.
tim pool
Exactly, and that's the funny thing.
Fox News and Newsmax had this incredulous attitude like, the left is talking about civil war.
Silly!
It's like, are you watching what they're doing to your presidents?
Yeah, they're sitting there saying it's happening and we're doing it.
Kathy Griffin basically admitting the Democrats are ready to start a war.
And then the right's going like, there's no civil war.
Have fun in prison.
But I guess the good news is we'll be gulag cellmates so, you know, we'll have each other's company.
allie stuckey
And we've been saying that for a while.
But you know I kind of take back my answer on whether or not they're going to indict
Trump because I do think that a mistake that Republicans are making right now before the
midterms is to constantly talk about Trump, constantly talk about what the Democrats are
doing to Trump.
I'm not saying we shouldn't talk about that for the reason that you just said, but that
really doesn't resonate with most people who are watching Fox News and Newsmax.
Most people who are not on Twitter, they do not feel like we're in a civil war.
Even if they see things like this happening to Steve Bannon or to Trump, they're not thinking
this is probably going to happen to me one day.
What I think resonates is the radicalism that is coming from the left, coming from Joe Biden
and their agenda.
And the right is doing a really bad job of talking about Joe Biden.
They're focused so much on Trump when honestly a lot of people don't want to talk about Trump.
They don't want to hear about Trump.
hannah claire brimelow
I think they also get lost in like the fact that Joe Biden seems so sick and ill, right?
Like you don't want to make fun of someone.
allie stuckey
Like they feel bad for them a little bit?
hannah claire brimelow
Well it's like they don't want to say anything that's like Too gauche.
Like they don't want to say anything that was like obviously kind of cruel to make fun of someone who's like in decline.
But like Joe Biden does not seem well.
allie stuckey
But they gave so much material in their policies.
This is exactly it.
hannah claire brimelow
I think that they think that the way that the left focused solely on Trump, the person, the man, the president.
Like, that's what they think they need to do, Joe Biden, and it makes them uncomfortable.
But what actually they should be doing is examining his cabinet and who else is in there and what else is going on.
Like, we are focused on the Biden administration and making Joe Biden the face of that, that we forget that there are other people.
And I think when Corrine Jean-Pierre came into office, like, we were all sort of like, wait, what?
This is your pick?
Like, Trumpasaki was like, you know, Pretty good.
allie stuckey
She was good.
hannah claire brimelow
She was good.
And this is who they followed up with.
So you should have questions about every other staffing decision in the White House.
tim pool
I kind of feel like Jean-Pierre doesn't actually do work.
Like before the press briefings, she's like watching reruns of Friends or like The Office.
Oh, I just think she's nervous.
And then she's like, oh, I gotta do a press conference.
Then she goes out there.
I remember there was at one point Peter Doocy asked her a question and she goes, I don't know that I remember that happening.
And it's like, that was like a...
hannah claire brimelow
What does that mean that they are not telling their own White House press secretary what's going on so that they can be like, just deny it.
Like, you don't know.
unidentified
That seems like a crazy thing.
tim pool
Look, I'm sorry.
It's insane to care about a White House press secretary, even as Jen Psaki or Kayleigh McEnany or otherwise, because you can't expect the press secretary to know everything and to be completely honest.
I don't care what party they're with.
There's like, there's no way.
hannah claire brimelow
No, that's not their job.
allie stuckey
Their job is not to be honest.
hannah claire brimelow
No, it's not.
tim pool
Exactly.
It's why is anyone bothering?
So everyone's like, oh, Peter Doocy asked that tough question.
What?
He may as well have asked a brick wall.
Come on.
What's the point?
hannah claire brimelow
But I stand by like, what's going on with Joe Biden's cabinet?
Why don't we talk about them more?
I feel like I hear nothing about it.
allie stuckey
Well, the right does, but again, I think that there are a lot of- I don't think they talk about it enough.
Well, I mean, I think that we talk about- well, we might get kicked off Twitter if we say, like, the HHS secretary is not the woman that he says that he is.
And I mean, there are different things that I think the right says, maybe not totally effectively.
I don't know if Republicans in office do, though.
They don't seem to be.
tim pool
I kind of feel like if someone was running as a Republican and they just like went up on the debate stage and were like, my principal issue is no sex change surgeries for children.
What say you, opponent?
And let them be like, I'm in favor of that.
Like, okay, can I go home now?
Because regular people aren't getting that framing.
They're hearing healthcare.
allie stuckey
Yeah.
tim pool
Health care.
unidentified
Gender affirming.
allie stuckey
Protects trans kids.
tim pool
And it's just like, just you gotta keep going and be like, oh no, I agree with the health care thing for sure.
Yeah, I do.
I definitely think trans kids are real and they need health care.
I just don't think the sex change surgery is appropriate for minors.
Do you?
ian crossland
God, I saw a picture of a girl who got a sex change surgery, had her double mastectomy.
She was like 13.
The redhead?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Oh my gosh.
And her eyes.
allie stuckey
I mean, she looked 11.
ian crossland
You gotta find this picture too.
Maybe on the after show we can pull it up.
Yeah, and the sadness in her eyes after the mastectomy.
unidentified
So sad.
hannah claire brimelow
Also, 13!
Like, what are we doing?
If that.
allie stuckey
I mean, she looks really young.
tim pool
So I want to point this out too, you know, at risk of pissing off YouTube.
We just talked the other day about TikTokers who are feigning terminal illnesses for likes.
We know for a fact that Instagram is making young teenage girls depressed because they don't get enough likes.
Do people not think, they think that those are isolated from social, what is it, social contagion, gender dysphoria?
What do they call it?
Rapid onset gender dysphoria.
allie stuckey
Yeah.
tim pool
Now, I talked with James Lindsay and Billboard Chris, and I've said I think trans kids absolutely do exist.
I think endocrine disruptors, hormone disruptors probably play a role in this, but I think a lot of what we're seeing in the news and with these families, A lot of these kids are undergoing social pressures from social media to cave into this, and you've got a perfect storm of a young kid going through puberty, dealing with body changes, popular social media content supporting transition, and parents who also are
ian crossland
And a salivating medical industry that can profit predatorily off of these young children.
Absolutely disgusting.
The Sackler family, if you look into what was a dope sick and they're pushing of oxycodone on the population, knowing it was addictive and telling everyone it wasn't, getting the FDA to sign off.
hannah claire brimelow
And mocking people in rural areas where they were pushing this drug in their emails to one another.
ian crossland
These are the people that are doing this to the kids.
It's not the Sacklers, I'm not saying, but it's people like that that want profit over everything else.
tim pool
Now I'm just pausing for a second and looking at the news article we have pulled up and I'm like, how did we segue from Steve Bannon being charged with money laundering to trans kids?
That was a fast... What were we talking about?
allie stuckey
I'm trying to think about what the connection is.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, we talked about the A.G.
and then we talked about putting your ideology into- No, they're weaponizing and then we talked- Oh, I got it.
allie stuckey
I got it.
Trump indictment.
They're talking about that before the midterms.
You said that they should be talking more about the people in their administration.
I said, well, you can't say that some people in their administration are not the gender.
And then we kind of got onto that.
They are creating, though, if we're going to stick on the whole trans kids thing, which I would not agree with, Tim, that there is such thing.
as a trans person.
I just wouldn't.
There's people with gender dysphoria.
There's people that are confused.
There are people that, you know, cross-dress, whatever.
But anyway, they are creating lifelong slaves to the medical system because, okay, you do a quote-unquote gender-affirming hysterectomy where you take out a young girl's uterus and her ovaries.
Oh, well, great.
Now you need to freeze your eggs.
Now you're going to have to use a surrogate and have to go through all of these different fertility treatments in order to have kids one day if you want to.
And so, They are lifelong medical patients, and of course, the medical-industrial complex likes that.
It's all connected.
tim pool
We've got two stories here that I wanna talk about.
The first is from KUTV.
Utah-based Zion's Bank opts out of participating in Boise Pride Festival.
This was over child drag shows, and Zion's Bank issued a statement saying, when we sponsored this, we did not know that they were putting minors in these kind of situations.
And then Boise Pride says, oh, minors have always been involved, and it's like, That doesn't, that's not better.
But this is interesting because it's showing that a corporation is saying, we're going to lose money if we go this route, so let's not do it.
But at the same time, we have another story.
Gaming charity, Games Done Quick, cancels Florida event citing COVID and don't-say-gay law.
So, I don't know, what is this?
Florida is losing Games Done Quick because of they wouldn't have masks and because of quote-unquote don't-say-gay.
The parental rights and education bill, that's a false statement, don't-say-gay.
I like to call that bill the don't-say-straight.
Because it has the same effect.
And then over in Utah, we're seeing a bank cancel their support for a Pride event.
So I don't know.
At first I was thinking the Zions Bank thing was a victory for the cultural right in that companies are finally being like, hey, that's the line for us and we won't do it.
But you're also seeing companies pull out of Florida.
So it's kind of like maybe it's just the culture is bifurcating.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I think it's bifurcation.
ian crossland
Why would banks be putting money into gay pride?
hannah claire brimelow
All kinds do.
I mean, like, they sponsor it, and then you see their logo, and you're like, I need to get a mortgage, and I'll go to that bank, and it's all advertising.
allie stuckey
The same reason that they would sponsor, like, a half marathon or something like that.
ian crossland
So it's for profit?
It's because they're trying to get exposure?
allie stuckey
Yeah.
Not necessarily because they like it, although they might.
ian crossland
Not because they're trying to sow division or anything?
tim pool
But I wonder what happened.
Like, what happened with Zion's Bank, where they were like, hey, you know, sponsoring the sexualization of children probably is bad for our bottom line.
You know what I mean?
allie stuckey
I'm sure they just got a bunch of calls.
Yeah, and Idaho Power did too, according to Chris Rufo.
Really?
Yeah, they also made a similar statement.
I think it's a win for the cultural, right?
Because what you're talking about, about that gaming company, they've been doing that for a long time.
They were doing that a few years ago, different companies.
hannah claire brimelow
The NCAA did it when they wanted specific bathroom laws.
tim pool
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Boise Prides is postponing child drag show due to increased safety concerns.
unidentified
Good!
tim pool
No, I think it's because they're losing money.
allie stuckey
Yeah.
See, that's what they do.
It's the same thing with the children's hospital.
They turn it into... See, now the story is not that children were involved.
Now the story is that the right is so extreme and so radical and so violent that they are threatening the safety of children.
The story is now conservatives pounce and not that, hey, we're enticing your kid to drag shows.
This is always what they do.
I highly doubt they're afraid for their safety.
ian crossland
It's dangerous to think that attempting to prevent a child from getting experimental surgery is the danger, when the experimental surgery actually could be considered dangerous.
allie stuckey
Yes.
lydia smith
Well, it's either that or they're going to be like, oh, the safety threat is actually coming from the right.
They're threatening our event, so we have to shut it down.
allie stuckey
It shifts people's outrage, it shifts people's compassion.
They forget what people were mad about in the first place, and they're like, oh, those mean right-wingers.
tim pool
This is clever.
This is clever.
What they're going to do now is they're going to say, Zion's Bank didn't just pull out, they threatened us with violence.
They're going to say the statement they put out was stochastic terrorism, and now we're forced to shut our event down, Zion's Bank!
And the bank's going to be like, we didn't mean it, we're so sorry.
This is war.
allie stuckey
They probably will, back check.
Yeah.
I mean, I think it's good though that they caved to pressure from the right.
I mean, if this is what it is, then this is what it is.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm just, I mean, I wish it would, the headline said, you know, uh, Boise Pride pulls event after major funder pulls out or whatever.
unidentified
And you can go into- Or after backlash because of child involvement.
hannah claire brimelow
Like, I don't know that this is an accurate headline and that bothers me.
allie stuckey
No, it's purposeful.
unidentified
Right.
allie stuckey
It's totally purposeful.
hannah claire brimelow
And I think that probably the way that, okay, so Zion is probably a regional bank.
It serves a lot of people in Idaho, I assume maybe Utah, and people in those communities don't like whatever Boise Pride is doing.
They don't like the drag shows, right?
And in Florida, the gaming company is saying, we don't as a company like this value, so we're not going to support here.
To me, This is more interesting, the Boise Pride, because it's coming from the community.
People who bank with this bank are saying, hey, I don't like this.
I don't want to do it.
Whereas, like, I really don't think any of the gaming customers, I mean, I would be really surprised if the gaming customers were like, hey, I'm going to stop, you know, attending your events or using your service if you don't specifically pull out of Florida.
I think that is them trying to pressure Florida the same way that the NCAA tried to pressure North Carolina when it said we're not going to host, you know, the NCAA basketball—I think it was—I think it was basketball that year.
Because that has a direct influence on revenue.
It's a huge win for the state.
tim pool
I think, you know, Republicans have a huge opportunity in this midterm to have a supermajority if they campaigned properly.
And I think the campaigning is simple because a lot of people ask me, like, how do I get through to my family and friends?
They're too woke.
They don't listen.
And I'm like, you don't argue with them.
You feign interests.
Like, you know, I shouldn't say feign, but like hear them out and then you can simply respond with, Yeah, man.
You know, Trump, he can be scary, but I think the weird thing to me is all these child sex change surgeries that keep happening.
And then when they say, what are you talking about?
Be like, oh, I don't know.
I was just reading something in like Washington Post about children getting sex changes.
ian crossland
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
I thought it was weird.
ian crossland
Show the picture of the 13-year-old with the double mastectomy, man.
Those stitches across the chest are just visceral.
tim pool
That's level two.
The first point is just to say, this is something that I find odd.
And then don't fight with them, don't argue with them, and if they're like, I don't know what you're talking about, be like, oh, I don't know, here, let me show you, and then just pull up the article on child sex change surgery, and then be like, yeah, here, like, they're, whatever, I don't know, are you, and then, and then genuinely just don't be mean, don't be like, it's wrong, and you're supporting it, you gotta be like, I mean, then you do what Ian said, you put up the picture and be like, I don't know, you know, look at this picture, and be like, that, that, I don't know, I saw that, and I was just kind of like, I don't know what's going on anymore.
allie stuckey
I had a guy, a professor from St.
Mary's on my show and I had him on because he said that the whole grooming thing, us calling people groomers on the left was a part of an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory that had to do with QAnon.
So I wanted to have him on the show and ask him about that.
And he claimed to be conservative himself and claimed to be a Christian.
And so we kind of went back and forth and I just like pulled up some articles and was
like do you support this?
Here is an example of a teacher ideologically grooming a kid.
Do you support like these teachers pressuring kindergartners to use they them pronouns
and just like make them kind of answer for that?
Of course you're not going to be that bombastic with a family member, but once they're met
with those kind of specific examples and they have to answer for their support, he very
quickly backed up.
It was like well no, no, no, no, no and tried to kind of narrow his opposition.
Once you can kind of make them do that, I think you can make them realize what's really
going on.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I think part of it is you also have to hear like what you have to hear past what
they are using as an example to hear what the concern is, right?
If you hear, well, Donald Trump is.
terrible, and he's aggressive, and he's rude, and whatever else.
Like, if they can't tie it to a specific example, it's that Donald Trump represents an ideology that is different than what they're used to.
And they're not going to be receptive if you shout back at them.
You have to understand where someone is coming from.
ian crossland
My dad gets really loud.
His name is also Tim.
And he'll be like, Donald Trump!
That guy!
And he's, like, getting loud.
And I'm just thinking, like, I'm so happy because he's communicating with me.
That's all I care about at that point.
I'm just happy that he's letting it out.
tim pool
Have you asked him why he's so mad at Trump?
ian crossland
Next time I want to get deeper.
Yeah, last time my mom was like, oh, Tim, you're getting angry.
And he's like, I'm not getting angry, Becky.
hannah claire brimelow
I do think part of it is like people are unwilling to have these conversations because We see discourse on things people disagree on as so volatile most of the time.
It's better not to have the conflict and I think part of that is on you.
You have to control how you react and keep yourself accountable to being civil and, you know, talking with compassion as much as you can about these issues while not just compromising your viewpoint, right?
Like, you have to be honest about how you feel.
I think so often people are afraid to say, like, I actually don't agree with you because they think the fallout will be so bad and it doesn't have to be.
tim pool
We need more courage.
You know, I mentioned this before.
It is not courageous for the people who work here on this show to say our opinions because we know we have a company where our opinions you're allowed to say.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Courageous is the guy who works at a steel mill who speaks up and says it.
Courageous is the person who works at a school who speaks up and says it.
And it's tough, but we need more people to stand up and just be like, hey man, the child sex change thing is a line too far.
Like, I ain't going there.
I ain't voting for those people.
If you can't, that's the thing, if you as a regular old American cannot publicly say, I refuse to vote for child sex change surgery, then we're screwed.
Seriously, because that story to me was just like...
Yeah, that's beyond the line.
You know, like for me, I voted for Trump, you know, in 2020 for a variety of reasons that did not broach children getting sex change surgery.
Now we're at that point where I'm kind of like, how could any reasonable person who agrees with us keep quiet now, knowing this stuff has been happening?
Children, young girls, some as young as 13, getting double mastectomies.
allie stuckey
Yeah.
I mean, I can tell you, unfortunately, I spent a lot of time on white woman Instagram and liberal woman Instagram, which is the worst place on earth.
And you would be surprised at the number of like suburban kind of conservative Christian moms who buy This idea that, well, it is compassionate to allow kids to do this because they might commit suicide, or I don't have a say in this, their doctors, their parents know best, or who believe in like the propaganda about not being able to get miscarriage care.
There's a lot of misinformation.
It's what we were talking about, like that toxic empathy piece that I think so many women, especially Christian women, are just totally manipulated by.
They're just manipulated by the maxims that trans women are women and things like that.
And so, I mean, that's how they're drawn in.
Fake compassion, toxic empathy.
It's pretty easy to get people to believe anything if you tell them that doing so makes them sound like a good person.
ian crossland
You mentioned toxic empathy.
I think it's fascinating.
Is that what you wrote about in a book or was this just something you've been focusing on?
allie stuckey
Well that's yeah it's something and it's not just me it's something that a lot of I would say like conservative Christians have been talking about for a long time because there's such a problem of progressivism within the the church and it's this idea that we have to Lead with empathy.
We have to see with empathy.
We have to discuss everything with empathy.
I'm like, look, empathy has its place.
It can be really good to be able to put yourself in someone else's shoes.
But if that's the only thing that you're doing, then you're going to make really stupid decisions because you don't look at the facts.
You don't look at what's true.
You are partial in your judgment making.
You're deferring to one person over the other because you think it's compassionate to do so, and it's going to make you make decisions that have really bad consequences, like open borders, like social justice crime policies, because you're told that's empathetic.
They have deadly consequences.
hannah claire brimelow
I think that there are a lot of women and maybe you would know more about this from your social media stalking but I think there are a lot of women who fear being bad moms and doing wrong by their child and so it's easy to then say like well if their doctor says it's a good idea to do this I'll just commit to this lifestyle because I don't want them to ever look back and be like you're the one who made me suicidal.
You're the one who made me depressed.
allie stuckey
Well sure and Abigail Shrier would definitely say there are people like that but it's more the women who go along with it their kids aren't involved but you know who just go along Let's talk about the good news and the bad news.
From TimCast.com, the Economist's midterm model shows Republicans have a 74% chance of winning the House.
tim pool
Democrats have a 78% chance of holding the Senate.
From TimCast.com, the Economist's midterm model shows Republicans have a 74% chance
of winning the House.
Democrats have a 78% chance of holding the Senate.
unidentified
Kind of sucks, huh?
hannah claire brimelow
You definitely have to go vote is what I'd say.
lydia smith
People get so mad at me when I'm like, hey, man, a red wave is not guaranteed.
They're like, don't be a black pillar.
Don't be a doomsayer.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm like, I have said it once.
I will say it again.
I think conservatives can get complacent.
I mean, conservative, not just Republicans, but libertarians who lean on the conservative side, like anybody who falls in this scope, they can be like, well, it's close enough.
We'll just trust it's going to happen.
That's not enough.
You have to remain more active than that.
allie stuckey
I think a lot of people are thinking, like, okay, if Republicans do take control, yes, that's better than Democrats having control, but really, what's going to happen?
Are there going to be a lot of strongly worded letters?
Are there going to be more, like, investigations that are televised?
Like, what's really going to happen?
What are Republicans going to do?
tim pool
Strongly worded letters.
allie stuckey
Yeah.
tim pool
That's about what they do.
allie stuckey
They're really good at that.
ian crossland
Print more money?
Think they'll just keep printing money and ignore the Federal Reserve?
Yeah.
tim pool
That's sad.
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like that's if all governments did.
tim pool
But this is why they're freaking out so much about the MAGA Republicans, because the MAGA Republicans actually are going to do something.
They at least do something.
allie stuckey
Yeah.
Now, the MAGA Republicans, who do you think that Joe Biden is thinking of?
Do you think he's thinking of like Marjorie Taylor Greene, Matt Gaetz, those kind of people?
tim pool
Lauren Boebert.
Yeah.
But also look at the people who are winning, right?
When Liz Cheney lost, he probably cried.
allie stuckey
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, him and all of his Democrat buddies were like, no, you know, our spy.
We lost her.
hannah claire brimelow
But she is on the subcommittee!
She is supposed to get re-elected!
tim pool
It's like, Liz Cheney is effectively a Democrat and that says so much about what the Democratic Party has become.
hannah claire brimelow
Like, their supporting this woman is just... But I think that speaks to the fact that a lot of left-leaning people want consensus.
They want people to agree with the stances that they have.
And the idea that true policy and governing comes from debate with people who believe differently than you do and whose ideas are different than yours isn't as easy to build consensus around, right?
Because it involves conflict.
tim pool
This is similar to what FiveThirtyEight has.
FiveThirtyEight saying 70 out of 100 simulations show Democrats winning the Senate.
Who connected this one?
This is The Economist.
And think about how sad that is.
That Republicans were up in the generic ballot and now Democrats are back up.
The Republicans just don't know how to campaign because they don't understand emotions.
Michael Maus made a really good point that Democrats voted for this guy.
What was his name?
Mel in 2000, the Missouri senator guy.
You want to look him up?
He died.
ian crossland
What's his name?
tim pool
And they look it up.
Senator dies and gets elected.
He was in 2000.
A Democrat died and they still voted for the guy.
And so he was like, Republicans going after Fetterman's health are making a mistake because they don't understand Totally.
Democrats have literally elected a dead man, and then the governor had to appoint someone and appointed his widow to run this place.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh, way more often.
I mean, there's a podcast called Missing Alaska that talks about the last Democratic Alaskan senator or congressman, Nick Begich, and then Hale Boggs from Louisiana, both went missing.
I believe they weren't declared dead at the time of their election, but they were definitely missing.
Their plane blew up.
No one knows where it is.
To this day, they both got reelected.
Hellbogs' widow ran and took over his seat.
ian crossland
His name is Mel Carnahan.
I've never heard this before tonight.
On November 7, 2000, Select the Next U.S.
Senator from Missouri and incumbent Republican Senator John Ashcroft ran for re-election for a second term, but he was defeated by Democratic Governor Mel Carnahan despite Carnahan's death in a plane crash three weeks before the election.
allie stuckey
Despite that.
ian crossland
He died and then three weeks later people hated the other guy so much they still voted for the dead guy.
tim pool
For the guy who died!
ian crossland
For whatever reason.
tim pool
Come on dude!
hannah claire brimelow
That is party loyalty!
unidentified
That's intense!
allie stuckey
Yeah, I think that after the, I think it was the second debate between Trump and Biden when Trump just like would not let Biden Finish talking.
There was a lot of sympathy I saw on social media for Biden.
It wasn't like, oh, he looks weak.
I think people kind of wanted someone that was weak, which is really sad, but I think a lot of people do because of that emotional piece.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, I think people get the big criticism of Trump is that he's too aggressive, he's too harsh, and he's too extreme.
On the opposite, Biden seems like this career-polished, you know, soft-spoken incumbent.
He's old.
It's because he's old, and I really fundamentally believe that, like, it's a mistake.
allie stuckey
It reminds people of their, you know, of their grandfather.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, you don't want somebody yelling at your grandfather.
allie stuckey
It's kind of cute that he takes a nap at 4 p.m.
and he can't finish his sentences.
unidentified
Aww.
hannah claire brimelow
Well and it makes him hard to attack because if you attack him you're like... You're attacking my grandpa.
Yeah and you're attacking like an elderly person like that's weird.
allie stuckey
He's nasty and he's always been nasty.
hannah claire brimelow
I would love to see Republicans see this poll and become more motivated, right?
I think a lot this is sort of a dangerous period for conservative leaning voters because there'll be as much as possible discouragement and you'll see a lot of left-leaning press say like well this this race has basically become unwinnable and like you'll read the article that'll be the headline you'll read the article and be like well I don't I don't really know that that's true.
I think That the red wave is not a guarantee.
I think that it's definitely something that you'd have to stay committed to as voters.
But I also think that like they the other side of the aisle would like you to be discouraged.
tim pool
I kind of feel like when the Republican primary in Pennsylvania was happening.
Donald Trump picked up his phone.
He's like, I'm going to be giving an endorsement to a great candidate.
And then right when the phone goes up to his head, a squirrel dropped an apple on his head.
He went, Oz!
Dr. Oz!
Vote for him!
And then all of a sudden, the news press, like the press runs with it.
Trump endorses Oz.
And now Republicans are going to lose Pennsylvania!
allie stuckey
You think that that, I mean I know you don't literally think that's what happened, but I think it's like, but I think it's very, I think it's very Trumpy.
I think it's very Trumpy to be like, he's like, you were on TV and I was on TV.
Well, this is my friend, like him and Hannity and Dr. Oz have been friends for a long time.
I think that is what Trump cares about far more than any ideology.
hannah claire brimelow
Dr. Oz cannot win.
Oz has gained in the polls.
He's still trailing, but he's only like five points behind Fetterman now.
Fetterman just agreed to have a debate in mid-October.
I mean, like, I think, you know, I don't want to put my... Maybe he can win.
It's like he could, but that's the thing, like, we feel like he can't.
We're already counting Pennsylvania out, and like, I just feel like it is too early to call.
Even all of this modeling, you know, It will dramatically change so much because we know the final basically six weeks before the election can produce some crazy changes.
ian crossland
Did you see Fetterman's speech when he was bumbling his words and saying the wrong stuff?
Like he had a stroke about a year ago or something.
Six months ago?
hannah claire brimelow
He had a stroke in May and the day that he won the primary he was actually undergoing surgery The guy is messed up in the head right now.
ian crossland
He's not equipped to run a state.
This is freakish.
hannah claire brimelow
So that's what Pat Toomey said.
He endorsed Oz before, but then in this recent coverage of like, because at first Federer was like, no, I'm not doing a debate.
Like, you guys are bullying me and you are making fun of my recovery.
And Oz was seen as really aggressive, being like, look, if you want to represent the state, come out and represent the state.
And then Recently, Pat Toomey was like, the thing is, if you're in Congress, you have to be able to speak clearly, you have to be able to endure, you need to be able to do this.
It's actually not unreasonable that he should be on a debate.
ian crossland
It would be reasonable that he would step down from Congress if he suffered a mind-altering stroke.
tim pool
They should give him a bell that he can have on his right hand that he can ding, and then the nurse can have a list of the letters.
I've been watching Breaking Bad a lot.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean part of like what's hard about it is so the uh Oz campaign sorry I wrote about this for timcast.com so I'm up to date on this one uh the Oz campaign had offered him they had said like we want to do five debates and we'll offer you all kinds of accommodations you can have an earpiece to talk to your staff We can have more than one bathroom break.
You can have someone to sit on.
And the bathroom break seems kind of insulting, I think.
It makes him feel like he's geriatric.
And he was like, no, you guys are, like, you guys are not respecting my, you're supposed to be a doctor and you're not respecting my recovery.
It's serious.
I'm getting better.
I'm getting stronger.
But like, this is insulting.
And they held to, the Oz campaign held to, and was like, no, you should have a debate.
Like, it's traditional.
This is not, I think Pennsylvania's been having debates in the Senate race since 2016.
unidentified
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
The Oz campaign hasn't committed.
They said it's going to be mid to late October.
They won't say when.
But it's this back and forth where Oz seems aggressive and I think a lot of Republicans are like, please stop.
tim pool
Don't do that.
hannah claire brimelow
But on the other hand, they're producing results.
I mean, he is getting this debate, which he said he wanted.
allie stuckey
Well, he was on the defense.
I feel like Oz was on the defense for a long time.
They were trying to do funny Twitter memes.
And that's just It's not gonna work.
hannah claire brimelow
He had Snooki.
Fetterman had Snooki in one of his campaigns.
unidentified
Which was funny.
hannah claire brimelow
You're from New Jersey!
allie stuckey
No, we didn't.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I did.
allie stuckey
Wow.
And it was funny.
Fetterman's social media strategy has been good.
hannah claire brimelow
Sorry, I cut you off.
But he's been mostly virtual while he's been recovering from his stroke.
allie stuckey
Right, which has been good.
And I think it's good that Oz kind of decided, okay, that's not gonna be my game and has actually kind of pressed him.
Because if you're not strong enough to debate, you're not strong enough to lead the state.
tim pool
I feel like Fetterman is more likable than Dr. Oz.
allie stuckey
Yeah, for sure.
hannah claire brimelow
And he's America's coolest mayor, says the Guardian.
tim pool
Right?
You take politics out of it.
Like, I don't like the Democratic Party, and I don't like most of the Republican Party.
But you take politics out of it, and you've got a dude who's cracking jokes and wearing a hoodie, and then some doctor in a suit talking about crudités, and it's like... I don't know, man.
I think that's a big factor, because people voted for Barack Obama because he was a celebrity.
People voted for Justin Trudeau.
Women did, because he was a hunk.
lydia smith
Huh.
tim pool
That was like a poll or something that came out, right?
Like the women were like, they voted for Trudeau because he was attractive or something.
hannah claire brimelow
Must be Canadian women.
unidentified
Oh, I think a lot of people vote for candidates because they're attractive.
tim pool
Didn't Trudeau do like a weird yoga thing on his desk or something?
unidentified
Trudeau is weird, yes.
hannah claire brimelow
I agree.
allie stuckey
He's a weirdo.
tim pool
But that's what gets you votes, man.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, well, and also like, they have this hometown boy versus like, No, I mean.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
I'm not saying that.
I'm saying he's more.
allie stuckey
He's more relatable.
tim pool
Relatable.
unidentified
For sure.
hannah claire brimelow
But he's been, I feel like he's been seeding this.
I mean, he's lieutenant governor.
He's been prepping for this race for a while.
He was celebrated during COVID.
He did a lot of stuff that people in Pennsylvania supposedly liked.
He was making the rounds with his wife on like different relationship podcasts, talking about their marriage and stuff like that.
You know, I, I think.
He has tried to prepare to be the most likable candidate.
Obviously, unpredictable that he had this stroke, right?
No one really could have seen this one coming.
But I do think that he was the guaranteed winner of the Democratic primary for a long time, which made it much harder to calculate who he was going to be up against.
And I think the hardest criticism that I hear of Oz is that he's maybe from New Jersey or something, and that's maybe not enough for Pennsylvania voters.
allie stuckey
Well, and he was like He was pro-transing the kids a few years ago.
Maybe not pro, but he platformed it on his show.
And he was anti-Second Amendment.
So that was my big thing.
Also, I didn't like the primary against Kathy Barnett when he had all of these Republican trolls coming out against Kathy Barnett and just straight up lying about her for the sake of us.
hannah claire brimelow
He has been running a super aggressive campaign.
It's wild.
ian crossland
You know, regarding Federman's rise to power, what he's been doing, he's been working at this his whole life, he's been aiming at this his whole life.
I have compassion for someone that is about to run the race of their life and they break their ankle.
But you don't run the race in those situations if your ankle's busted.
I have compassion, but not to a fault.
Like what you're talking about earlier?
That's dangerous.
If you want to love some ill person and let them run your life, you're gonna die.
That's the result of it.
You have to make the best, healthiest person in charge.
tim pool
They've elected dead people.
ian crossland
They've literally voted for people who are dead.
This is the moment when the world is looking at us to lead.
tim pool
You know, in a hard, idealistic sense, I actually think voting for the dead person is the better thing to do.
Because then you have no one in that chair screwing everything up.
The problem is, in real life, they just appoint someone to fill the seat, so you're voting for nobody.
You're voting for the governor to just be able to put in whoever they want.
hannah claire brimelow
Which, if you live in a state where the governor's in your party and you trust him, is why you would do that, right?
So if you are in a blue state and your Democratic person dies or goes missing, and you think that the governor will appoint another Democrat to fill the spot, like, yeah, you cast your ballot along party lines.
tim pool
I love that meme.
You've probably seen it.
It says, vote nobody.
Nobody supports the people.
Nobody cares about the working class.
Nobody will fight corruption.
Nobody cares about you.
Vote for nobody.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
And it's like, that's a great meme.
unidentified
There you go.
tim pool
Yeah, but you know, it's a bit jaded.
I think we've got some good MAGA Republicans who are in Congress, who are running.
I'm a fan of Marjorie Taylor Greene forcing the floor votes.
That's such a fantastic move.
ian crossland
I tweeted this out and I wonder what you guys think.
Do you need political zealots to run a government?
tim pool
No.
ian crossland
What do you mean?
In order to run a government, to have a government function, do you need political zealots involved?
People that love politics?
hannah claire brimelow
I think people have to want to be a public officer in America.
I don't think someone who is unwilling can sustain the lifestyle, right?
But I also think that we forget, we see the elected official and we forget that they have advisors and staff and other people who are helping write their policies.
Like, there are a lot of ways to be involved with influencing politics in the government.
You don't have to just be the person on the poster.
ian crossland
Re-election bothers me, because people shouldn't be in and thinking about their next term.
That should never even remotely be part of the equation.
hannah claire brimelow
They should just be allowed to be in forever?
ian crossland
They get in, they do their job, they're four years and they're out, or eight years and they're out.
hannah claire brimelow
But what if they're really good and you want them to come back?
ian crossland
Then thank you, start a business, and I'll follow you on Instagram.
hannah claire brimelow
But what if I thought they were putting out good policies and I want them to stay in office?
ian crossland
Then keep talking about your policies on Twitter and I'll follow you, but you're done in politics after that.
tim pool
But then you create shadow governments.
ian crossland
We already have shadow governments.
tim pool
What do you mean exactly?
You make them worse.
ian crossland
No, I don't think so, man.
If you want to say, This is a, we have a government here and that you're a governor of people's minds, then yeah, maybe.
But like, there is power to social media and socializing and getting cults of people to do what you say.
tim pool
Maybe what happens is, you know, like someone gets elected to a first term, right?
And then we don't, they don't have to worry about reelection because we just make it a lifetime appointment.
And then you got to, you got to worry about what happens after that.
Well, it's simple.
We just have whatever position they had transferred to their children or the first born.
allie stuckey
Oh, that's perfect.
tim pool
Yeah, there you go.
And then you don't got to worry about re-elections.
And then what we'll do is, if they don't have kids, we eliminate the position.
And then, you know, eventually this can make everything way easier.
There's just one person who inherits the, we'll call it a throne.
And then they're in charge.
And then when they die, their kid takes over.
It's just one person.
allie stuckey
This is novel.
I wonder why no one has thought of that.
tim pool
Super simple.
And then no one's got to worry about re-elections.
No term limits.
None of that.
Just, there you go.
allie stuckey
I think I want my politicians to be thinking about their reelection.
I want them to be thinking about their next term.
Don't do that.
I'm not going to vote for you.
I want them to be scared.
I think term limits, if you have term limits and they know that they're out of office no matter what, why do they have to listen to what their voters or constituents want?
Why do they have to care?
ian crossland
Because they want to survive after they're out of office?
hannah claire brimelow
You're saying people will attack them?
allie stuckey
Will kill them?
ian crossland
I didn't say that.
If you go into office and you betray and destroy people's lives, you better run for your life.
I mean, that's not a good position to be in as a human.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't want the consequence to be!
tim pool
Look at the history of humanity!
What's the congressional approval rating?
17%?
No one likes these people!
ian crossland
Well, I'm talking worst case scenario.
If a leader goes in and rapes and pillages his population, they're not... Like, look at Libya.
Look at what they did to Muammar Gaddafi.
allie stuckey
I mean, there are already politicians that go in and betray their constituents all the time.
They don't get killed.
Liz Cheney is out of office, but she's not dead.
ian crossland
Well, they're not really betraying people.
I don't think the politicians have really... I mean, maybe them siphoning off our wealth is a form of betrayal, but...
tim pool
Yeah, I certainly think so.
ian crossland
I don't feel like they're making things worse.
It just doesn't feel like they're making things better.
tim pool
I want to talk about a cultural issue before we go to Super Chat, so we have one more segment.
This is from Podcast Movement.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Heavens.
They've apologized to Ben Shapiro, saying, as we stated, we're continuing to evaluate our policies guiding social media and events with inclusivity, diversity, and respect for all.
We have to start by sincerely apologizing to Mr. Shapiro for our reaction.
When he visited a booth, we sold his company.
That wasn't right.
Just think about how insane that is.
Yes, we'll sell you a booth.
You show up to said booth.
We condemn you showing up, even though you paid us and we knew you were coming.
lydia smith
You sold it to me.
tim pool
So I can respect them now for coming out and saying the right thing and apologizing to Ben.
They say it began in 2014 when four podcasters had an idea to create a community blah blah.
We're now looking to move forward as we focus on the original mission from 2014 being a hub for podcasting events.
Okay, you know what?
Look, I respect it.
You know, always give respect where respect is due.
They said it was wrong.
They're apologizing to Ben Shapiro.
Fine.
Daily Wire, why don't you just create a podcasting convention?
lydia smith
They probably are already working on it.
tim pool
Yeah.
Jeremy's Podcasts.
Stop giving money to people who hate you, do another commercial, and then we'll get a booth there too.
unidentified
That'll be great.
tim pool
We'll do a podcast there.
ian crossland
Yeah, but don't call it podcast because that's an Apple thing.
The iPod.
tim pool
You know, Xerox.
hannah claire brimelow
We don't call it.
Yeah.
ian crossland
A show.
hannah claire brimelow
Just a show.
But it's like a broadcast.
unidentified
It's more specific.
hannah claire brimelow
A broadcast maybe?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, that was really weird.
hannah claire brimelow
Like I know what you're saying, but I also don't have the right word because podcast has become so specific in our vernacular.
ian crossland
Broadcast comes from when they used to cast seeds when they would plant a field.
They'd cast broadly and they called it a broadcast and then it just kept in the vernacular until all of a sudden now.
hannah claire brimelow
So we could retake broadcast.
tim pool
Isn't it weird if you think about it though?
The launch of podcasts, people had iPods, and then someone was like, I'm gonna make a talk show to put on your iPod.
And then all of a sudden, people were listening to these things.
unidentified
It's just so weird.
ian crossland
And then Apple's like, we're gonna get their minds and keep them forever.
hannah claire brimelow
But then when Spotify was like, we want those too, they had to keep calling them podcasts.
ian crossland
They should stop.
hannah claire brimelow
But again, what's the alternative?
ian crossland
Shows, I mean.
tim pool
This is called a VODcast.
lydia smith
Yeah, video.
tim pool
Video on demand cast.
VODs, yeah, VODs are nice.
So we, forget Apple.
hannah claire brimelow
Are you a vodcast, too?
allie stuckey
Yeah, I'm a vodcast.
hannah claire brimelow
Wow.
allie stuckey
Yeah, I don't call it that.
I call it a podcast.
tim pool
But, so, like, Rogan's is called a vodcast.
This is a vodcast.
hannah claire brimelow
It's a video.
tim pool
Same with, like, vlog.
hannah claire brimelow
Like, a video vlog.
tim pool
VOD means video on demand.
So, it's like, it's not a podcast.
Like, podcast was on iPods, and now these talk shows are video on demand on social media.
ian crossland
Yeah, vodcast, dude.
unidentified
That's it.
tim pool
That's what it's called.
ian crossland
Yeah, these are vodcasts now.
But that's, well, they're also shows.
I like show because it's one syllable.
hannah claire brimelow
The show could be like a theater.
Like, I'm almost thinking it's too nonspecific to be like, come to our show convention.
Like, are you putting on theater performances?
Are we going to the movies?
unidentified
Talk show.
hannah claire brimelow
Talk show.
allie stuckey
But if you're talking to someone who doesn't know, what do you do?
Oh, he has a podcast.
He wouldn't say vodcast.
lydia smith
They'll understand it.
tim pool
Yeah, I guess.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm not against coming up with a new word.
I like do think we could definitely come up with a new word.
ian crossland
Yeah, I don't like Google as a verb either.
I don't like that these corporations are in people's minds.
allie stuckey
I don't do that anymore.
I don't, I say search it.
Yeah.
tim pool
I say bing it.
Duck, duck, go it.
ian crossland
Search it on Google if you want.
tim pool
So the point, the reason I brought this story up was not to debate words in semantics, but to point out another culture, culture war victory.
hannah claire brimelow
And they named, they said Ben Shapiro specifically by name.
I think that's good.
tim pool
Mr. Shapiro.
hannah claire brimelow
It could have been very easy to be like, we're sorry if any of our actions upset someone, no one in particular, though.
tim pool
You know, there's a guy- I wonder why they did this.
allie stuckey
Like, why did they apologize?
tim pool
You know, there's two, there's two Ben Shapiros in media.
There's probably more, to be honest.
But, uh, the editor, I think the editor of Vice Magazine- His name is Ben Shapiro?
Literally Ben Shapiro.
Yeah, and when I worked at Vice, Ben Shapiro.
And then he was like, at the time, this was back when Ben only had maybe like 20,000 followers or something.
And so it was funny because people would mix up the two Ben Shapiros.
I don't know what he does now though, but you know, clearly one Ben Shapiro is potentially more famous.
hannah claire brimelow
He tries to go by Benjamin Shapiro now?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure he does.
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
I wonder if there are other people.
tim pool
You lost your name.
Like, imagine that.
Imagine like, your name is like John Smith or whatever.
No, let's say, let's say your name is, you know, I don't know, something more weird.
Ian Crosland.
Yeah, that's a good one.
And like, imagine, like, when you're coming on the show, Ian, there's another dude who's like got a master's degree in like, he's like a master chemist, he's got a PhD, let's say PhD.
He's actually doing graphene research experiments.
And he's going around talking about how much he wants graphene.
And then everyone's like, oh, you're that graphene Ian Crosland guy.
He's like, Yeah, I am.
From that podcast, that hippie weirdo.
No, no, I'm the PhD weirdo!
Sorry, you lost your name.
hannah claire brimelow
Someone else is now more famous than you with the same name, so... But they're then contacting you and being like, tell us about your experience in your doctorate program.
And you're like, what?
tim pool
No, that person wouldn't exist.
And that other guy has to go by, like, Ianjamin Crosslands now.
ian crossland
Should we get rid of names and just use numbers then?
allie stuckey
Yeah, that works.
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
Be a lot of them.
IC74316, what is your opinion on graphene?
ian crossland
I was going to change my name to Ian, like Prince or Cher.
I was about to, man.
I was going through a midlife crisis.
I didn't do it.
tim pool
Anyway, my point is, I guess what I was trying to get to, why do you think they're backpedaling?
allie stuckey
Yeah, I don't know.
It just seems like they're under duress or something.
tim pool
It feels like the right is getting cultural pressure, and companies are now realizing it's not worth it.
Did you see what Christopher Ruffo tweeted about Disney?
Registered voters disapproving of Disney now that they're underwater, I guess?
Like, no, no, no, their approval rating among voters is 51%.
Among independents, it's 47.
Among Republicans, it's like in the 20s or something.
allie stuckey
So Disney is— That's kind of surprising to me, actually.
tim pool
Not me.
Like, have you seen the latest stuff they've been producing?
allie stuckey
I have, but I'm always surprised at how much people are paying attention, I guess.
tim pool
Yeah, but I kind of feel like it's watching Disney is the definition of not paying attention.
You know what I mean?
allie stuckey
Yeah.
tim pool
If you're trying to watch Marvel, and then they show you She-Hulk twerking or something, you're gonna be like, okay, hold on a minute.
Like, I'm not okay with whatever it is they're doing.
allie stuckey
Yeah.
tim pool
And then all of a sudden, you're political.
Jennifer Lawrence wants everyone to be political.
hannah claire brimelow
Well she's afraid of Tucker Carlson.
allie stuckey
She has nightmares about him.
Probably right now she's having a nightmare about Tucker Carlson.
Poor girl.
hannah claire brimelow
So strange!
tim pool
But here's what I said.
They said she had nightmares starring Tucker Carlson.
It's like for all we know her nightmare was like aliens are abducting her.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh and he saved her.
tim pool
Tucker has got like an Iron Man suit and he saves her.
hannah claire brimelow
Does that mean that she watches him regularly for him to show up in her subconscious?
unidentified
Yes.
allie stuckey
I would never have a dream about Chris Hayes because I've never watched his show before.
What if she's like hate watching him every night?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, they say like sometimes people that you see on the street or like that you interact with in a restaurant will be in your subconscious because your mind remembers their face, right?
But she's seen Tucker Carlson so frequently she can identify him in her dreams.
unidentified
That's I think actually telling us like what's going on at home.
tim pool
They're not like they're not nightmares.
They're they're actually amazing.
I imagine she's not, you know, you have a nightmare, you know, you wake up in a cold sweat.
No, no, no, no.
She's having beautiful fantasy dreams, where she's on the right on the back of a stallion and Tucker like, you know, he's like, they trot up to like a beautiful waterfall with a rainbow and birds of paradise.
And then she goes, Oh, hold me, Tucker.
And then he's like, you're so beautiful.
And then she wakes up just like normally with her eyes slowly opening and goes, okay, that was a nightmare.
unidentified
That's it.
tim pool
She's actually having deep fantasies about it.
ian crossland
I'm supposed to not like that, right?
Okay, then it was a nightmare and not a beautiful experience.
tim pool
A beautiful experience.
She's only calling it a nightmare because she doesn't want to tell people she's dreaming of Tucker Carlson.
ian crossland
She does want to.
unidentified
Like she just told us that he's hanging out in her subconscious.
tim pool
I learned from the best in media.
Thank you, Brian Stelter.
Headline, Jennifer Lawrence has recurring dreams about Tucker Carlson.
How about Jennifer Lawrence constantly is constantly dreaming about being with Tucker Carlson.
Boom.
There we go.
lydia smith
Yep.
ian crossland
I wonder if she's in the dreams with him.
I got to know more.
I want to know about that.
I want to know everything about these dreams.
Just tell me.
tim pool
I want the whole... You know, it'd actually be funny if the dreams were like, she walks into an office building and Tucker's a receptionist and he's like, just fill out this form, sign here and go up to the third floor.
And then she's like, ah!
Like what if it's like most banal and mundane experience?
hannah claire brimelow
She's like in bed and her husband is like secretly watching her talk across him while she's asleep. And that's what it
is He's like hearing her voice and so she's like seeing him in
unidentified
her dreams But actually like it's her husband's like I'm a closet conservative
tim pool
when I when I would go to sleep watching adults swim I would have scooby-doo dreams all the time
And I was, like, constantly in the mystery machine, you know, with Scooby.
And it was funny because, like, Scooby and Shaggy would be saying things, and then in my dream I'm, like, responding to them, but they weren't talking back, and it was the weirdest experience.
And then I would slowly wake up and Scooby-Doo is on!
You know?
That's probably it.
allie stuckey
That's it.
lydia smith
That's what's happening.
hannah claire brimelow
It's her husband!
He's a huge Joker Carlson fan!
And he's like, yeah, we're going to bed, no problem, you lay down, I'll just finish watching.
tim pool
So that means she's having a dream where she's driving in her car and Tucker's sitting next to her going, and now the Democrats want to steal it, you know?
hannah claire brimelow
Which, I agree, it might feel very strange to suddenly have Tucker Carlson lecturing at you in your dreams, especially if you think you don't watch him, but you secretly do, apparently.
allie stuckey
Celebrities are very weird.
She said that she became a liberal from watching 30 Rock.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I did see that one.
tim pool
But Liz Lemon was a Republican.
allie stuckey
Well, yeah, I don't know which part of 30 Rock made her a liberal.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't think it makes any sense at all.
tim pool
This is what's crazy.
hannah claire brimelow
Also, she was like, I watched it when I was like 13, and you want to be like, super grounded in your political opinions.
Yeah.
tim pool
Liz Lemon in 30 Rock goes into, I can't remember who's office, and she says that she tells her friends she voted for Obama, but she secretly voted for McCain.
unidentified
That's funny.
tim pool
She was a secret McCain voter.
hannah claire brimelow
Maybe that's what she's trying to tell us.
You can be a Democrat outwardly, but you can hide it.
You can actually vote Republican secretly.
tim pool
Yeah, like secret Trump supporters.
hannah claire brimelow
That's what Jennifer Lawrence is saying.
That's why she watches Tucker Carlson.
tim pool
But hold on, what kind of person voted for John McCain?
It's interesting because a large portion of the current younger Trump supporters are not fans of John McCain at all.
allie stuckey
Yeah.
tim pool
Like Warhawk, Warmonger.
But Liz Lemon did, and she's liberal?
She's further right than most of the Trump supporters, to be honest.
unidentified
I don't know.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't know.
unidentified
What a weird way to become liberal.
tim pool
I watched a show where... When I was 13.
allie stuckey
Yeah, it was fantasy nonsense.
hannah claire brimelow
I became an anarchist because I watched How You Met Your Mother.
And you're like, what?
lydia smith
What?
unidentified
That doesn't make any sense.
tim pool
Who said that?
hannah claire brimelow
Oh, I'm just making it up.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
That's one way to become an anarchist.
I realized that life was pointless.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I became a nihilist from watching Big Bang Theory.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Because I realized people actually like this stuff.
allie stuckey
Oh my gosh, Big Bang Theory is so not funny.
It is the least funny show I have ever watched in my life.
tim pool
Have you ever seen it when they do... They take out the laugh track.
allie stuckey
Oh, oh my gosh.
hannah claire brimelow
It's so uncomfortable.
tim pool
And it's like, what happens is like, dude walks in, and then he's like, what are you doing?
And the guy goes, I'm working on my thesis.
And he goes, just like a Fibonacci sequence.
Oh, so uncomfortable.
It's it and then you're like, what?
But like, there was, I remember watching one where he's like,
that's my favorite Fibonacci number.
And then there's like a laugh track and I'm like, where's the joke?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Dude, I don't, I don't get it.
hannah claire brimelow
It's off the air now, okay?
tim pool
Yeah. Is it?
hannah claire brimelow
I think so, right?
allie stuckey
Yeah, I think so.
hannah claire brimelow
It was like a big deal.
allie stuckey
I mean, people like the show somehow.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't think they actually do.
I think people think they feel smart because it's like some science words in there.
And so they're like, oh yeah, science.
tim pool
Hey, look, I think 30 Rock was fantastic.
I like 30 Rock.
allie stuckey
Yeah, 30 Rock was funny.
My husband and I both like that.
hannah claire brimelow
Are you now a Democrat because of Liz Lemon?
allie stuckey
That's why I came on the show, to tell you all.
hannah claire brimelow
You're coming out now?
allie stuckey
I am coming out as a liberal because of Liz Lemon, yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Cool.
allie stuckey
There we go.
tim pool
All right, everybody, we're gonna go to Super Chats.
If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and head over to TimCast.com.
We're gonna have that extra fun members-only show coming up at about 11 p.m.
Let's read what y'all have to say.
We got Daft End who says, woke leftists.
I don't believe you can call yourself a libertarian and have any respect for a monarch, let alone one who raised and protected a son allegedly worse than Hunter Biden.
Uh, I disagree.
I can say I don't like monarchy.
I don't like the queen, but I still think that you... You don't win friends with salad.
Is that the saying?
lydia smith
Salad?
tim pool
Yeah, you don't win friends with salad.
Remember?
That's true.
That's the old saying.
hannah claire brimelow
I had no idea that was the saying.
tim pool
The point is... Rabbits everywhere are offended.
You don't walk up to somebody who's mourning and gloat and laugh at them and tell them how evil and stupid they are and how awful they're... That's not gonna win your friends over.
But...
You know, I guess I can say criticizing the son and the actions of the parent are... I agree with that, actually.
ian crossland
What son are they talking about?
tim pool
Prince Andrew.
ian crossland
Oh, he worked with Epstein.
Didn't he do stuff with Epstein?
tim pool
Worked with?
That's one way to put it!
ian crossland
It's a gentle phrase.
hannah claire brimelow
I also don't think... I think there's probably no one on earth who's immune from criticism.
And again, you should criticize your government.
tim pool
Shaky Owns says, this is for Ian to get a thesaurus.
Ian, we're literally going to use that to order you a thesaurus.
lydia smith
Let's do it.
tim pool
And then we'll put it on the table.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's functional.
But I have one on my computer.
What's the word you need?
tim pool
Give me another word for... How would you describe Prince Andrew?
ian crossland
Yeah, I was gonna say.
tim pool
What about Hunter Biden?
Crackhead.
Is there a synonym for crackhead?
lydia smith
Alternative substance enthusiast.
There you go.
tim pool
You're welcome.
ian crossland
Druggy.
That's a good one.
Junkie.
I mean, these are all junkies.
Sniffer.
Sniff taker.
lydia smith
He got that from his dad.
hannah claire brimelow
Hunter Snifferbiden.
ian crossland
Smackhead, that's a good one.
tim pool
Not Sniffer, well that's Joe Snifferbiden.
Yeah, he got it from his dad.
lydia smith
It's weird how it works both ways.
ian crossland
Well there's junkie with an I-E and there's junkie with a Y.
tim pool
Really?
Different words, huh?
unidentified
Dopehead.
tim pool
Very important.
Polaris says, I was kind of bummed to see Michael Malice decided to send out so many
tasteless tweets about the Queen, including one about inbreeding.
I'm not a fan.
But, you know, as a mature adult, I don't agree with Michael Malice on every single thing he does, but I'm still a big fan and he's a good friend.
So it is what it is.
You know, I don't like reveling in death.
I just don't like it.
You know, when it's like a terrorist or something, I'm willing to go so far as being like, that was good that we stopped this evil person and, you know, that's fine.
It's another thing to like, I don't know, just gloat and mock and post pictures of people mourning their loved ones because you disagree with them politically.
allie stuckey
Yeah.
I don't think you need to mock anyone's family members when they're mourning, but I also think it's like it's weird how people are saying, oh so it's okay to mock this evil person's death but not the Queen's.
Okay, but a terrorist and Hitler, those people aren't the same as the Queen.
You can disagree with the Queen, but like we're not moral relativists.
The things that she did weren't as bad as like terrorists.
I think it's okay to celebrate a terrorist's death.
I don't think it's okay to celebrate the Queen's death because I don't think they're the same kind of person.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Tony Dedgrave says, I didn't know Pop Culture Crisis had a political show in the evening.
This is great.
That's right.
So, you know, basically Pop Culture Crisis, which covers the news and information that most people actually care about, realized that there was still this small niche market of politics that most people don't care about.
ian crossland
That's why they hired you.
tim pool
That's right.
That's right.
So we're doing this show.
But the funny thing is, I am 100% confident that in like a year or two, Pop Culture Crisis is gonna be bigger than IRL.
Like, it's a pop culture show.
hannah claire brimelow
And then you're gonna add money guns for people to shoot money at you.
It's gonna be a whole rivalry.
tim pool
No, it's higher.
I'll be like, Brett is yours.
Brett and Mary, you make the money.
hannah claire brimelow
Brett right now is like, no.
Brett does an amazing job, but he really, really gets, uh, I don't know how to say other than anxious.
unidentified
Very focused.
Yes.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh man, it's pop culture crisis.
So it's, I mean, it's kind of obvious though.
They talk about, you know, movies, pop culture, actors and stuff.
This is the biggest stuff in media.
Right now, pop culture is politics, but that's not going to be forever.
At least I don't think so.
I don't know.
But I genuinely believe that people are more likely to watch something about Britney Spears.
I mean, case in point, Britney Spears and Elton John topping the charts, number one.
That kind of stuff is going to do better.
hannah claire brimelow
And I think he and Mary complement each other so well.
Their interests overlap, but also are, you know, in their own space.
They really do a great job of like, Getting what you would expect for pop culture and then it's something you're not expecting.
ian crossland
I'll be on it tomorrow pop culture crisis The 200th episode I've heard 200 episode of pop culture crisis and Brett.
I'm Mary.
I love you, too.
But Brett man that guy He's just like an encyclopedia of pop of cultural and popular media knowledge it's really fun to talk to him about stuff and An orange sea lion says, we dumped tea in the harbor to stop talking about the monarchy.
tim pool
Let the lotus eaters handle the monarch.
Shout out to Carl Benjamin and the Lotus Eaters podcast.
Um, we did a little bit more than dump tea into the harbor.
I think we shot a bunch of people too and like burned things down.
So it was a pretty complicated process and foreign intervention and all that stuff.
But here's the deal, man.
I don't care for the royal family's drama.
I don't care for the Meghan Markle stuff.
That's nonsense.
But the Queen dying is like massive news.
And there's a lot of people in the UK that I like and respect that are, you know, feeling sad over this.
I don't get it, but, you know, I try to empathize.
hannah claire brimelow
I would say, too, I believe there are people in the UK who do not love the monarchy in its current state and maybe have never liked it who also know that this is a huge turning point for their culture.
They are really saying goodbye to an era of history that they probably have complicated feelings about.
We're not saying the monarchy is all well and good, but you have to recognize that this is much more complicated than just some old white lady dying.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm not saying I like them.
I'm just saying, like, when John McCain died, I said something, like, neutral to slightly nice about him.
You know, I don't like him.
times. Look it up, Tim. Good vibes, Ian. Yeah, I'm not saying I like them. I'm just saying
like when John McCain died, I said something like neutral to slightly nice about him. You
know, I don't like him. He's a war hawk. But I said something like it's he's a man who
truly believed he was serving his country.
You know, and that's even tough, because I'm not even 100% convinced.
But I'm like, I'm not here to dance on graves.
Not at all.
I just don't, but... Nobody.
Like, there's a meme from the Political Compass memes, where every political quadrant was celebrating the death of John McCain, and the centrists were like, you know, rest in peace.
And I was like, yeah, I guess, man.
People really did not like that guy.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But that being said, that photo that the Libertarian Party of New Hampshire posted of Meghan crying over the coffin was just so unnecessary.
Absolutely wrong.
allie stuckey
So unnecessary.
You could criticize him.
I don't care about criticizing him even after he died.
But why post a picture of his daughter crying?
unidentified
That's just cruel.
Oh, man.
allie stuckey
Yeah.
lydia smith
Not a fan.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Like, dude, the guy had his like, there's a lot of things that I don't like for sure.
But his daughter?
Come on, man, guys.
I don't know, though.
It's tough.
hannah claire brimelow
Same truth for the Queens kids.
They can all be terrible, but we can recognize that this is a huge moment in history.
tim pool
I would not celebrate if something bad happened to Hunter Biden or Joe Biden.
I'm like, no, I want Joe Biden to live a long, well, as long as he can, comfortable life in his wheelchair with a burlap, you know, little blanket on his lap in a sunroom as he does his off.
I want Hunter Biden to get the treatment he needs to deal with his problems and to stop doing whatever it is he's been doing with his illicit dealings.
Just go away.
Go be happy.
Go live your life.
That's the key point.
Yeah, just go away.
We don't need bad thing.
We need good thing.
Good thing they can go have something else and then we'll try and get things back on track.
Mark VA says, Ian, check your history, please.
The British Empire ended in the 40s with Indian independence.
Elizabeth was never empress of anything.
It ended with her father.
allie stuckey
Hmm.
ian crossland
Is that a technical if that's a technical thing, then just send me a link on Twitter.
So I can examine the technicalities of it.
But everything what I was reading was that it was very vague about the kind of the phasing out of the empire.
tim pool
Roberto Lara says Shinzo Abe Gorbachev and the Queen have left the 2022 chat.
This era's chapter is closing and we still have three months left.
Winter is coming.
God save the Royal Corgis.
hannah claire brimelow
I do want to know what's going on with the corgis.
Like, where are they now?
allie stuckey
Yeah, I thought about that earlier, too.
unidentified
Hmm.
allie stuckey
Poor corgis.
hannah claire brimelow
I want a nice picture of, like, William, Kate, and all their kids hanging out with all the corgis.
allie stuckey
I bet they have a plan for them.
Bet they're not going to the pound.
lydia smith
I'm sure.
tim pool
Christopher Casimir says, currently at Fenway Park, Boston, seeing Aerosmith live and listening to you guys at the same time.
Keep up God's work.
Love you guys and Aerosmith.
Well, that's cool.
allie stuckey
I love it.
tim pool
How are you listening to both?
That sounds fun.
lydia smith
Good combo.
hannah claire brimelow
Came prepared.
tim pool
Yeah, that sounds pretty fun.
Performa says, hello New York viewer here.
Kathy Hochul is losing ground after going against the SCOTUS ruling on concealed carry.
Lee Zeldin is within striking distance.
Thanks for another great stream.
unidentified
Vote!
Vote!
tim pool
Go door to door.
Register people to vote.
You gotta do it, man.
Democrats have organizational power.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
Oh, it's their biggest strength that they are good at organizing people.
tim pool
Republicans gotta go knock on doors.
And then you gotta bring flyers and be like, will you vote against child sex change surgery?
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
This is the candidate who opposes it.
Or, you know, a more palatable issue, I guess, gun rights or something.
But, you know, I don't know, I just think people probably would say I don't like the idea that children get sex change surgeries.
hannah claire brimelow
I like the idea that you invite all, this was yours from a couple shows ago, you invite all your friends to get pizza and say, you'll drive, but then you stop by the bowling place on the way.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, yeah, you know, it's just like, you know, real quick, are you guys going to vote?
But I want to make sure I stress, like, You know, the pizza isn't a side.
It's just get your friends together to go vote.
You know what I mean?
Like, don't give your friends things for voting.
You don't want to do that.
No, you want to ask your friends to come out and hang out with you.
Go vote.
hannah claire brimelow
And you're saying, like, I want you to be able to participate in the democratic process.
I'm going to drive to the polling place.
If you're registered in my area, come with me.
allie stuckey
Yeah, all my friends vote, thankfully.
tim pool
Yeah, just big voting parties.
Everyone gets together and votes.
All right, let's grab what we got here.
Oh, there's a bunch of comments about Israel.
The Angry Canuck says, AJ Plus has videos of Americans kicking out Palestinians from their homes.
On YouTube, for all to watch, China isn't kicking people out of their homes.
lydia smith
Wow.
tim pool
A Canadian defending China and criticizing Israel.
ian crossland
Yeah, and I'm not trying to counter what you're saying, but we've got to be careful that just because you don't see it happening doesn't mean it's not happening.
And China, the Chinese government's very good at blockading any kind of media of what's going on over there.
And we did happen to see some video in Israel, so I don't want to just pin all of it on them because that's what I saw.
It's not saying it's good, but...
tim pool
Frumentari says France still has an empire of 46,000 square miles of overseas territories from colonial days.
Crazy.
The UK has the Pitcairn Islands, right?
That's UK?
It's like 50 people who live there and I think there's like accusations of pedophilia and inbreeding or something.
unidentified
Something like that.
ian crossland
Huh.
unidentified
No idea.
tim pool
Memphis, man.
Timor says, good evening Tim and crew, fresh conspiracy.
Someone swatted the IRS building in Memphis, Tennessee today.
Looking at the available news, multiple reports of an active shooter, still nothing found
after three hours of searching and evac.
Huh.
Geez.
No idea.
unidentified
Memphis, man.
That's a rough go of it.
tim pool
Katius says, Crowder's new song definitely doesn't sound better than Tim Pool, but that
song rolled a solid 20.
Which one was that?
Was the Nancy Pelosi one?
I don't know.
But Crowder does song parodies, like, you know, it's kind of like Political Weird Al.
hannah claire brimelow
Political Weird Al.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, like, we're just making content, you know, we're just, we're making songs.
That's about it.
Grim Pickens says, man, I'm just shocked that Ian spoke more than 10 words without mentioning Grafton or Central Banks.
ian crossland
Really?
I did mention the Federal Reserve pretty early on.
tim pool
Oh, man.
ian crossland
I'm not wearing a graphene shirt today.
tim pool
Okay, what do we got?
ian crossland
Oh, I just learned last night that graphene itself can produce an electrical charge.
unidentified
No way!
ian crossland
Just through thermal motion.
unidentified
What?
ian crossland
It defies the Brownian... I don't know if I'm gonna get that right or not.
hannah claire brimelow
When did you become interested in graphene?
I know this has been a long-running thing.
unidentified
2011.
hannah claire brimelow
Okay, and how'd you find out about it?
ian crossland
I think I did a blog about it.
A friend of mine, actually, Andreas Nicholas, he used to work at TimCast, was putting graphite, I think he was painting graphite onto CDs and then putting them in a CD burner and using the laser to etch off graphene.
I don't know how he was making it.
And I was doing like science blogs with mines.
So I came across all this new cool technology in like 2011.
tim pool
Andrew Ho says, Tim, you never read my superchats, but I have also been a Timcast member for some time.
Watch the UK go ultra ultra woke now with King Charles III and the World Economic Forum pawn new Prime Minister.
Yes, agreed.
But I mean, many people were saying the Queen was woke anyway.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tim pool
She was letting it happen.
hannah claire brimelow
One of the big criticisms I've heard is that she gave up a lot of conservative traditions over time.
unidentified
Yeah.
Wow.
tim pool
Carnivorous Libertarian says, AOC constantly talking about wanting to date her.
Fake tears of 1-6 and constantly wanting the spotlight is very indicative of insecurity and arrogance.
You know what I think about AOC is that she was a bartender.
And more power to her, I don't care that she was.
But I think she fears going back.
Hmm.
She's terrified of going back.
Well, it's possible.
At this point, though, she's a prominent activist.
She'll write a book.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Yeah.
allie stuckey
She'll get a spot somewhere.
tim pool
Yeah.
Zoroark Graft says Japan also has a monarchy.
Very interesting.
hannah claire brimelow
A lot of countries have monarchies.
tim pool
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Sweden does.
Spain does.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Justin Clark says, all right, tonight's in, I'm really rooting for Operation Red Pill AOC.
Sensei Prager should reach out and offer her counseling.
Imagine how powerful her, why I left the left video would be.
unidentified
It would be.
tim pool
Yeah, she'd be like, I decided to have kids and be a mom and then everyone got mad at me and they told me to get an abortion.
allie stuckey
I'd be so happy for her.
I feel like I could be friends with her if she moved into that stage of her life.
tim pool
Well, there's numerous studies showing that having kids makes people more conservative.
allie stuckey
Of course it does!
tim pool
Yep.
allie stuckey
And getting married.
tim pool
Yeah, isn't it like, what percentage of women that have kids say they're glad they didn't abort the kid?
Is it like 99.9%?
It's extremely high.
unidentified
I know that, I gotta look it up though.
tim pool
It's kind of weird, you know, we have a family of deer out in front of our house, and they're always just doing deer stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And it's just like, I can't imagine a deer intentionally killing its own baby.
lydia smith
Isn't that weird?
allie stuckey
Yeah, if they did, there'd be something like mentally wrong with it.
hannah claire brimelow
There's a deer in my neighborhood that adopted two fawns whose mom died.
And so now instead of having like two babies, she has four.
And like the whole community knows about it.
tim pool
Dude, we have like seven deer.
They're like, they're just on the lawn.
You know, every night when I go back, there's like just like seven deer and they're all just staring at me as I walk past them.
And I'm like, hello deer.
And then they just go back to just eating.
And I'm like, where do they sleep?
But earlier today, the baby was sleeping just like right outside the bush and we could see him chilling.
He's like looking around doing... And then the mama deer was like walking right up to the house.
It was pretty fun.
lydia smith
That's sweet.
tim pool
95% of women.
95?
You looked up the actual number?
lydia smith
Yeah, University of California says.
tim pool
95% of women.
lydia smith
It's low for my liking, honestly.
allie stuckey
I'm worried about the 5%.
tim pool
That means 5 out of 100 women or like 1 in 20 women are like having a kid and looking at it being like, I should have aborted this thing.
unidentified
That's horrible.
Yeah, I hate that.
That's crazy.
allie stuckey
I really hate that.
lydia smith
That number's too high.
tim pool
Man, that's crazy.
hannah claire brimelow
We should have a study that studies that.
Why do you feel that way?
lydia smith
What's wrong with you?
ian crossland
Oh, I did some research on the rat hope experiment.
There's more to it than how we've been describing it.
tim pool
Oh yeah?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
He electrocuted him too?
ian crossland
He found domesticated rats would swim.
He took 12 domesticated rats to start.
Three of them were floating on the surface, went under the water to search around, drowned.
The other nine just swam for two days.
They don't know why.
So then they got a bunch of wild rats.
All 12 of the wild rats drowned immediately.
So they're like, why are these domesticated rats lived for two days.
So they figured it was because of their social community and their support system before they were put in the water.
So then he realized, I think it's hope.
And so he would find rats, dry them off, put them back in, and then he would get the precursor.
tim pool
Interesting.
So he gave them hope, and then they tried to survive.
That's creepy, man.
Dream Weaver says, I'm from Kentucky, USA and the news about the Queen hit me like a ton of bricks.
She symbolized so much about the old generation.
Her passing is truly a turning of an era.
I completely agree.
hannah claire brimelow
It's the end of an era.
tim pool
Seriously.
allie stuckey
I felt that about like George H.W.
Bush and John McCain dying too.
Like politics aside, I do see their deaths as an end of an era that represented better people generally than we have today.
And that makes me sad.
tim pool
All right, Ben Busher says, the podcast wasn't invented by Apple.
They bought it from Adam Curry, one of the most based mofos on this rock.
You should have him on 100%.
ian crossland
Adam denied that.
I was tweeting about it, and they were like, Adam, you created the pod thing, didn't you?
And then he responded, no.
hannah claire brimelow
That's part of his sale agreement.
He has to say, no, no, it was always Apple.
ian crossland
I don't know.
tim pool
Yes!
Jacob Barney says, Tim, with shows and record label, I'm wondering if you'll be expanding
to publishing books next.
As a writer who puts my beliefs in my writing, I'm worried that any future publisher
may try to change my story for the woke.
Yes.
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
You already publish like Shane stuff, right?
tim pool
Yeah, so I mean we have another book coming out, Tales from the Inverted World, Ghosts of the Civil War, which is based on the show.
You guys really should watch it on TimCast.com.
But yes, we're gonna do all that.
Basically all that means is we give you money so that you can live while you write a book.
hannah claire brimelow
It's in advance.
tim pool
Yeah, so we give in advance so that you can write the book and then we sell the book and then hopefully make enough money back to pay ourselves back and then make money for you.
But we're not there yet.
So the same thing is true for the music and the plans of the label and all that stuff.
We're starting in-house with the music we already have here, because we've got a handful of musicians already.
Tons of stuff we have to produce.
But we definitely want to find some outside talent that needs some, you know, I don't know, funding and resources to help get the ball rolling.
ian crossland
Marketing, really.
Marketing, man.
That's the real benefit of getting with a label is they market you.
Do they really?
A good one will.
tim pool
The thing is, Timcast with this show has a marketing apparatus, so if we were to like release a song once a month, then we could just be like, hey guys, the new song is out, this is a band that does this, here's who they are, and that's more than most labels can do for you.
ian crossland
I was thinking last night about a record label contract and like, I would love to build a contract that they still use in a thousand years because it's so good for the artist, like a springboard.
Like, That's the best diving board on earth.
All the greatest divers in the world trained on it and now they're adults and they remember that company that launched their careers and then they start their own labels and do the same for other people.
You make them more famous and more in control of their career and then you're always remembered as the great for doing that, one of the greats.
tim pool
Kyle says, the banks and corporations sponsor Pride events because it helps their ESG score.
This is something you need to bring up more because that is causing much of this.
That's true.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yep.
Maximus Rita says, are the Eldians from Attack on Titan Britons, my people?
Yes, I guess.
Sure.
And if you're a fan of Jordan Peterson, you got to watch Attack on Titan.
Yeah, I don't want to spoil it, but it's like, a lot of what he talks about is exemplified by what that show is.
Although, like, the first few seasons, you're just basically watching giant people eat little people, and you're like, I don't know what this is about.
But then later on when you realize the backstory, you're like, oh man, this really is like right up Jordan Peterson's alley.
Very political stuff.
Interesting concepts.
The sins of the father, etc.
Quick pause, 555 says, Tom McDonald drops a new video tomorrow at 9 a.m.
Pacific time.
It actually looks really cool.
You see the ad that he put out for it?
Riot?
His hands are glowing or whatever.
I'm excited.
Shout out Tom McDonald.
We got him to chart on iTunes by shouting him out.
We gotta make sure we get Tom McDonald on the Billboard charts, so we'll shout him out all week.
Make sure that happens.
So tomorrow at 9 a.m., guys, watch for Tom McDonald's song.
Buy it on iTunes.
I don't know how he's launching it.
I haven't talked to him about any of this stuff.
But let's just see if we can help get Tom McDonald, Riot, Billboard Hot 100.
Everybody just buys it for a buck or whatever it is he sells it for.
Then dude hits those charts and they can't ignore it anymore.
That'd be awesome.
Rye Lyon says poll came out showing 20% of Democrats and 36% of white college-educated women believe men can give birth.
unidentified
Huh.
Tough.
lydia smith
College is going well, I see.
tim pool
Yeah, it's totally worth all that money.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, IRL gets so many viewers, we all need to step up.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
Right on, man.
Right on.
This is the crazy thing, you know, it's like on each episode across the clips and the show itself, it's like a million and a half views.
And I'm just like, can we get a million and a half people to all just buy for $1 Tom MacDonald song?
Because here's my point.
Like, I'm of course proud of the music we're putting out.
I would love to see a million and a half people buy our song, but it's not really about that.
So people are like, you know, on the left saying, Tim's grifting.
He wants to make money off people.
It's like, okay, don't buy my song.
Then buy Tom McDonald's song.
Then you give him a million and a half dollars.
I mean, a third of it go, or like 10% is going to go to the net, like networks or whatever.
I'm just saying we need to take over these cultural spaces.
He's got a song coming out tomorrow.
How do we get every single person who watches the show to just be like, okay, okay.
I'll spend the dollar to help Tom McDonald.
That's how you change the game.
Make Tom McDonald rich so he can keep doing this and he can work with more people and he can get on those lists and then the media is forced to cover it and talk about what he's talking about.
Take over the culture, man.
So I'm definitely going to shout out his stuff tomorrow when it comes out and then, you know, following week for sure.
David Murdock says, check out the new trailer for Drag the Dead at David Murdock Art on the Twitters.
A third-person pearl-clutching zombie shooter with Zane Maj, Uncle Hotep, and Adam Krigler.
Demo right around the corner.
PS counterculture will require curation.
Where's the platform?
Interesting.
Cool.
What is that?
Drag the Dead?
Is that a video game?
lydia smith
Interesting.
tim pool
Third-person pearl-clutching zombie shooter.
Cool stuff.
Shout out.
Eric Miller says, that would be a good Cast Castle bit.
Have someone that looks like AOC from behind wearing a Tax the Rich dress.
She drinks a vial and then it's Steve Bannon in the dress, still screaming Tax the Rich.
lydia smith
James O'Keefe.
tim pool
James O'Keefe.
lydia smith
Yes.
unidentified
All right, let's grab a couple more Super Chits.
tim pool
David J. Art says, does Britain join the EU considering the Queen?
Interesting.
hannah claire brimelow
No, because she's the head of state, not the head of government, so it'd still be up to the Prime Minister.
unidentified
No, but without her, is there now no... But Liz Truss, she's the Prime Minister and she was part of Brexit, so... Oh, okay.
tim pool
Alright then, well I guess not.
I guess not.
Let's see what we got here in the old Super Chats.
Publishing books, we read that one.
What do we got here?
Jamie MacDonald says, hey Tim and crew, did you know that the Scottish Gaelic meaning for Donald is world ruler?
Potential meme magic?
Is that true?
Look that up.
I don't believe that.
Donald means world ruler.
That cannot be true.
ian crossland
In what language?
tim pool
In Scottish Gaelic.
ian crossland
World wielder.
tim pool
Is that right?
Yes.
ian crossland
Proto-Celtic.
And it means world ruler or world wielder.
tim pool
What?
We live in a simulation.
unidentified
This is wild.
lydia smith
Great.
tim pool
Donald means world ruler or world wielder.
What does Trump mean?
Where's that come from?
Drumpf?
What did Drumpf mean?
lydia smith
It came from the word trumpet, I think.
So what I have is that it's from the Celtic, the male given name from the Celtic word meaning world power.
tim pool
Trump came from trumpet?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Hold on, look that up.
hannah claire brimelow
That's what I wanted him to call his social media platform.
lydia smith
Trumpet?
tim pool
It is trumpet.
I don't know, let me look.
ian crossland
So they're like the best trumpeteers on earth?
tim pool
Yeah, so the word is trumpet.
That was the name of his grandfather and they changed it to Trump, right?
lydia smith
So what?
Yeah.
So the word is trumpet.
Yeah.
English surname, the modern English surname, Trump.
tim pool
So his name is literally announcement of the world ruler.
lydia smith
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
I've never thought about that.
tim pool
For real.
His name is world ruler, like trumpet, like declaration.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think his parents thought about that while they were naming him?
No.
tim pool
No, they didn't know Donald meant that.
hannah claire brimelow
Are you sure, though?
Maybe they did.
ian crossland
Oh, maybe he did.
hannah claire brimelow
His dad was base.
His dad was base, yeah.
I know a lot of parents who, like, look up the meaning of their kid's name and incorporate it.
tim pool
Do you think his dad talked like him?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Little Donald Jr.
ian crossland
Is there a video of, what is it, Fred?
Is that it?
unidentified
Probably.
allie stuckey
I bet, I bet so.
Because, I mean, Don Jr.
talks like him, so.
tim pool
His name means like the trumpet of the world ruler.
lydia smith
That's amazing.
tim pool
World ruler sound.
lydia smith
Yeah.
Harold of the winter ruler.
unidentified
Harold of the world ruler.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Maybe that's why they're so scared of him.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Like they know his name, his legend is foretold.
But then Donald Trump Jr is the same name.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tim pool
What does Jr translate to like originally?
We know it's like the second son or like the son of or whatever.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, Baron means young warrior.
allie stuckey
This is amazing.
tim pool
Baron means young warrior?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, what's the literal meaning of junior?
I know we have our, you know, contextual meaning of what that means.
lydia smith
The younger one.
tim pool
It means the younger one?
lydia smith
It's a nickname for the most part.
tim pool
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, then his name is... It can include, it can mean lower rank.
tim pool
Herald of the World Ruler Younger.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
The Younger Herald of the World Ruler.
lydia smith
There you go.
unidentified
Wow, man.
lydia smith
That's it.
See you in the future.
tim pool
That's crazy, dude.
ian crossland
Oh, yeah.
Trump comes from triumph.
Things like that.
tim pool
Triumph.
ian crossland
Triumph.
Trump.
tim pool
The victory of the world's ruler is his name.
unidentified
Wow.
That's wild.
allie stuckey
That is wild.
I had no idea that's what Donald meant.
tim pool
Wow, dude.
Marion Holtzman says people are cruel.
No humanity left even for the dead.
Well, you know, people like us still exist.
And people like you, Marion.
So, you know, we're trying to be nice and keep some of the hostility down.
My friends, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends if you really love it, and head over to TimCast.com.
Join us.
Become a member.
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You don't want to miss it.
You can follow the show at TimCast IRL.
You can follow me at TimCast.
Ali, Beth, do you want to shout anything out?
allie stuckey
Uh yeah, you can follow, listen to, subscribe to my podcast, Relatable, wherever you get your podcasts.
It's also on YouTube.
You can buy my book, You're Not Enough and That's Okay, anywhere that you buy your books.
I'm on social media, AllieBStucky.
You can check me out on those platforms.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
I'm a writer for TimCast.com.
I think you should go there every day.
Click on the read tab and read stuff from me and the rest of the news team.
You can find me on Instagram at hannahclaire.b and I know Ian's going to shout it out, but I really think you should watch the 200th episode of Pop Culture Crisis tomorrow at 3 o'clock.
ian crossland
You should, really.
You really should watch that.
unidentified
100%.
ian crossland
It's going to be hot.
I'm going to be there.
And I want to... Pop Culture Crisis tomorrow, 3 o'clock on YouTube.
And go to Cask Castle on TimCast.com and sign up to watch this week's episode.
Every Tuesday we're putting out a new episode, and I thought it was really funny.
It's getting better, too.
The cast is amazing.
Charles, you were crazy.
That was great.
Really happy to be a part of it.
Looking forward to more.
See you later.
lydia smith
I am really hoping that the 200th episode is when we finally get to see Brett forced to dye his hair blonde.
I'm very much looking forward to that.
tim pool
Was it 15?
hannah claire brimelow
15 crisis parties in one episode.
Brett has to bleach his hair.
I don't know how I got him to agree to this.
It's very important to me that this happens.
lydia smith
Do it.
tim pool
100%.
lydia smith
Let's make it happen.
Ian's on tomorrow.
It's going to be a good time.
I'll be on next Wednesday.
It's always fun over there, as we all know.
Politics is downstream of culture.
That is why pop culture crisis is so important.
You guys can follow me on Twitter and Minds.com at Sarah Patchlitz, as well as Sarah Patchlitz.me.
tim pool
We will see you all over at TimCast.com.
Thanks for hanging out.
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