Aug. 18, 2022 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| I cannot believe that we lost Brian Stelter and Liz Cheney in the same week | ||
| American democracy is dead, my friends. | ||
| You know, it actually took me a lot of practice to be able to say that without breaking out into laughing. | ||
| It was really easy for me to tweet that, but ladies and gentlemen, Brian Stelter's out. | ||
| He was fired from CNN. | ||
| Well, I don't know if he was fired, but they canceled his show, which basically means he's fired, I guess. | ||
| The entire staff, gone. | ||
| Rumors are now circulating. | ||
| We're hearing that Jim Acosta may be next in line for the next couple of weeks. | ||
| It may even be Don Lemon, who is out. | ||
| CNN is collapsing, and You know, on Tuesday, just two days ago, Liz Cheney lost her primary. | ||
| And we were all just so excited to see the establishment crumble, to see now these moves made against CNN. | ||
| We're going into the midterms, and I just got to warn everybody, don't sit back thinking you got it in the bag, because this is what they're trying to lull you into a false sense of security. | ||
| Look at all these good things. | ||
| No, we gotta make sure that we go in, we get all our friends out, and we go and vote. | ||
| So we'll talk about that. | ||
| Plus, Donald Trump, the madman, has endorsed Democrats fulfilling the prophecy. | ||
| The Babylon Bee wrote that, in a genius move, Donald Trump endorses or supports impeachment, forcing Democrats to oppose. | ||
| Donald Trump has now endorsed the Democrat who led the impeachment charge against him, and other Democrats have taken the bait. | ||
| No joke, they're acting like he literally endorsed Democrats. | ||
| This is amazing. | ||
| What a ridiculous time to be alive. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, before we get started, head over to TimCast.com. | ||
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| Joining us tonight to talk about all this and more is Mike Glover. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| Who are you, Mike Glover? | ||
| Nobody really important. | ||
| I mean, I'm just a guy. | ||
| Some guy. | ||
| Yeah, so I'm a former special operations guy. | ||
| I'm also a contractor for the CIA. | ||
| I also own a company called Fieldcraft Survival that teaches preparedness and everything, anything revolving a worst case scenario to citizens, situation awareness, tactical training, the list goes on. | ||
| So hold on, you're quite literally a fad. | ||
| I am a bootlicker according to a lot of people. | ||
| Am I allowed to say that? | ||
| Bootlicker? | ||
| But they also accuse you of being an extremist? | ||
| Yes, so on one side, yeah. | ||
| So there was an article that was released when I started this group called American Contingency, which is like a community group based on the BLM and Antifa activities, which you're very familiar with. | ||
| I mean, it's one of the reasons why a lot of these things have evolved out of that. | ||
| That's the good that came out of the bad. | ||
| And I started this American Contingency idea of just pulling people together, doing what a Special Operations Sergeant Major would do. | ||
| Like, hey, let's leverage our assets and do something positive here. | ||
| And then I was called immediately a right-wing extremist and white nationalist, which is crazy because I identify as an Asian guy. | ||
| To clarify, you're quite literally an Asian guy. | ||
| I'm quite literally a six-foot-one Asian man, which is rare, but I'm half Korean. | ||
| My dad was in the army, met my mom in Korea when he was stationed there. | ||
| And I took offense to this, but I could do nothing because all the platforms cancelled me. | ||
| Facebook, Instagram, I fought to get those back and got a couple of them back, but not before USA Today advertised the entire article that was written by obviously a leftist journalist who had an agenda. | ||
| CNN reached out to me and said, hey, we want to talk to you because they were running a piece on Proud Boys. | ||
| Talked to me for an hour and realized, oh, this dude's just a normal guy who's trying to run a business and be positive in his community. | ||
| They moved past that. | ||
| And then of recent, Project Veritas released this document that said, American Contingency is a militia violent extremist organization, a banner, for all of these white nationalists and domestic extremists. | ||
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It's crazy. | |
| It's crazy, because I'm not any of that. | ||
| People who know me, I'm very moderate, and I'm not on the fringes of anything, because that's just not how I roll. | ||
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Wow. | |
| All right, we'll talk about that, man. | ||
| Thanks for coming. | ||
| Yeah, thank you. | ||
| We got Hannah-Claire Brimelow hanging out. | ||
| Hi, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimelow. | ||
| I'm a writer for this cool news site called TimCast.com. | ||
| It is pretty cool. | ||
| It's the coolest. | ||
| I'm Ian Crossan and a wild wizard. | ||
| Sometimes I wonder, why am I here? | ||
| And then I realize it's to cast magic. | ||
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That's right. | |
| No, it's just to be cool. | ||
| If you guys watched Cast Castle, you'll see me walk in and you'll get a full view of the table. | ||
| And I just point out that it's just, I don't know what's going on with this mess of rocks everywhere. | ||
| You guys gotta get a look at these gems. | ||
| This is an aquamarine. | ||
| Not only does he have a ton of gems, but he has a miniature version of himself. | ||
| That is... It's awesome. | ||
| I didn't choose that, that just appeared. | ||
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It just appeared here? | |
| What do you mean? | ||
| When people laud love and adulation on you, don't fall for it but don't deny it. | ||
| Ian came in here in the middle of the night and put that little Ian there. | ||
| Show the little Ian. | ||
| He's trying to make himself seem more mysterious. | ||
| The man of the hour. | ||
| So cute, I love him. | ||
| Somebody made him for us. | ||
| He's cute. | ||
| He's got that crease right there. | ||
| I want one of those. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's cute, right? | ||
| Yeah, it's nice. | ||
| Bobblehead. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Someone made this. | ||
| He doesn't have shoes on. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, exactly. | ||
| He's got white shoes. | ||
| He's great. | ||
| Yeah, Ian has one of those, and I also have one of those, but she lives at home. | ||
| Tim has one, too, that has a little skateboard. | ||
| Very hard to balance, but we appreciate whoever made those make those for us. | ||
| All right, let's get into it. | ||
| All right, the first big story from TimCast.com. | ||
| Brian Stelter to leave CNN. | ||
| Reliable sources cancelled! | ||
| The media analysis show has been on the air since 1993. | ||
| I didn't realize that. | ||
| They put Brian Stelter on that show? | ||
| No, he has a predecessor. | ||
| So his predecessor is a man named Howard Kurtz, and he eventually left CNN. | ||
| He left Reliable Sources to go on to be with Fox, who he's still with today. | ||
| So Brian Seltzer is given this show and then burns it to the ground and destroys the legacy of a 30-year-old show? | ||
| And I think this whole, this story for me is interesting because it's a web, you can see where everyone comes from. | ||
| Brian Seltzer, he came from the New York Times and then they moved to Fox Media. | ||
| Everyone is so interconnected in this world. | ||
| Incestuous. | ||
| Yes, that's a great word for it. | ||
| Media incest. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so to a certain extent, I know there's been some speculation about where he'll go next. | ||
| And that's why I think companies like ours and platforms like YouTube are so interesting because they disrupt this member sharing. | ||
| So you're saying we should hire Brian Stelter? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Only if I retain my rank as senior reporter and he has to start as a junior staffer. | ||
| I didn't say as a reporter. | ||
| We got some garbage. | ||
| He wants to hang out with the chickens. | ||
| Kim can train him. | ||
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I love it. | |
| I think it's great. | ||
| Look, he's, you know, I'm reluctant often to be so crass in reference to people, but this guy is seriously one of the worst in media. | ||
| No matter what happens, he always finds a way into weaseling some kind of shill defense for the establishment, no matter what they do. | ||
| Even going as far as to tell people not to watch other propaganda networks, only watch us. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| If, you know, if you're dependent on ratings, you want to convince everybody, just keep watching us, keep watching us. | ||
| But if you want to be honest about the idea of spreading truth and doing journalism, then what we say here is, oh, you should watch other shows. | ||
| You should watch The Left, you should watch The Right, you should watch CNN, Fox News. | ||
| Determine for yourself who you think is telling the truth and who you can trust. | ||
| Yeah, I think a sign of greatness and confidence is when you you encourage other people to go experience other things other than you. | ||
| And then because they do and they trust you and they find out that their life is better as a result, then they come back and they want to hear more from what what else should I do? | ||
| Because you're giving them honest, like, you know, objective advice. | ||
| Yeah, I like the idea that his new boss came out and said, hey, we're going to get back to telling news stories. | ||
| And how can you argue or debate with that? | ||
| You know, he said, hey, we're a little bit too political. | ||
| We want to get back to our origin story, which is telling news, which is the right thing. | ||
| That's what you do. | ||
| You know, CNN really was the top player for news for a long time. | ||
| And when a story broke, you turned CNN on. | ||
| And they destroyed that with Chris Cuomo, with Don Lemon, and to a lesser extent with Brian Stelter. | ||
| They, you know, Chris Cuomo faking being in COVID quarantine is one of the biggest media scandals of our generations, of our generation. | ||
| And it's, it's even, even Ben Smith, the New York Times called him out. | ||
| Like this was not something they could have just pretended didn't happen. | ||
| Everybody was bringing up the fact that Chris Cuomo pretended to be in quarantine. | ||
| And so Jeff Zucker came in and he turned CNN into a reality TV He had a personal vendetta against Donald Trump. | ||
| He hated the man. | ||
| And so he nuked an entire legacy. | ||
| How amazing is that? | ||
| Trump, really? | ||
| I don't know if he broke the minds of these people or if he, like some kind of wizard, pulled it to the front and center for us to see. | ||
| But these people's brains shattered when Donald Trump became president. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was the news that I leaned on when I was going through special operations training, special forces training, when the global war on terror was initiating with the invasion of Iraq and we were already in Afghanistan. | ||
| CNN is the coverage I depended and leaned on for accurate information, which is crazy because, you know, fighting the war and then being away from home and not paying attention to news, to come home to that, I think in 2016 when I started paying attention again to the news, it's like, what's going on here? | ||
| It's a completely different world. | ||
| Well, I used to talk about, a couple years ago, the CNN challenge. | ||
| The CNN challenge was to turn on CNN, and then, it was to be watching Fox News, and then turn on CNN, and the challenge was, can you find a time when they're not talking about Trump? | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| And so, it used to be that I would, when I'm doing work, I have CNN on, while I'm working. | ||
| And it's for, if breaking news happens, they'll have it very quickly. | ||
| And then eventually, something happened with, it was Iran, it was protests, or something like that, and they were talking about Trump, and then I was like, I'm seeing on Twitter something's going on, and so I switched to Fox, and there it is. | ||
| Front and center on Fox News, protests erupting in Iran, and I was like, oh wow. | ||
| Switched back to CNN, and then I was like, what are they doing? | ||
| There's like major international crisis happening, and they're talking about Trump? | ||
| Trump's not even relevant to the news right now. | ||
| Like, he didn't do anything, they were just talking about him for the sake of talking about him. | ||
| And so then, something else happened later where there was like a major flood. | ||
| I can't remember exactly where. | ||
| And by this point, I'm only watching, you know, America's Newsroom on Fox because they actually were covering news. | ||
| And then I thought to myself, I bet if I turn on CNN, it's Trump. | ||
| Click, boom, there it is. | ||
| So I filmed it. | ||
| And I was like, here's the challenge, guys. | ||
| Like, not a literal challenge, but I was like, watch. | ||
| That's all it was. | ||
| They destroyed what legacy they had. | ||
| And reliable sources. | ||
| To hear that it's been on the air for nearly 30 years and then Brian Seltzer burnt it to the ground. | ||
| To the ground. | ||
| And they're suffering. | ||
| I mean, one of the reasons that, I think you've probably seen Litched, like Chris Litched, who's... Licked. | ||
| Licked? | ||
| I can't say it. | ||
| I did pop culture this week and learned I cannot read anyone's name. | ||
| That's all I learned. | ||
| Chris L. Anyways, he has taken over and part of it is to get control of their massive loss of their bleeding viewership and their bleeding profits. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
| There's no way for it to start I mean one of the things that I found interesting when I was researching for the article was that he has been monitoring who became more partisan under during the years that Donald Trump was in office and he is it looks like the reports are that he is wanting to cut as many people who are basically Too far gone. | ||
| There's no way to recover the reputation of their show because he thinks that it's more important to bring them back to a moderate platform and on our news. | ||
| I think that CNN's reputation is so damaged with so many Americans that's an almost impossible task but you know he's been given this bleeding ship. | ||
| I mean he's got to try and you know bail out bail out. | ||
| mixing metaphors here stop it from sinking somehow. It's bandage the ship whatever he needs to do. | ||
| There's no way. No. There's no way. But what will they do sell the IP like sell the name to Disney | ||
| or something or does Disney already own CNN? They've already sold it several times. Well it's | ||
| already under Warner Brothers right so like it's already a conglomerate of a conglomerate you know | ||
| like it's already mixed in somewhere I think eventually someone else would maybe overtake | ||
| them as like the prime left-leaning news outlet which is weird to even have to say that like we | ||
| should just have news but of course we can't. What one of the things I found interesting about | ||
| Seltzer is he wrote this book about how Fox News is thoughtful, and Trump, and whatever else, and then he updated it after January 6th to be like, see, I told you guys, even worse than ever, and now he is the first one to go. | ||
| I mean, he has really positioned himself as the anti-Trump fact-checking media analyst. | ||
| His bias is too obvious. | ||
| What's he going to do? | ||
| Where's he going to go now? | ||
| Well, I heard he's going to come work here with the chickens. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Well, you know, I don't trust him with my chickens. | ||
| He's got to start a show. | ||
| Like his own show where he just uploads videos, interviews Tim. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
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He becomes a YouTube star? | |
| He copies Tim's format? | ||
| I love to call them podcasts because that's like an Apple thing. | ||
| Apple iPod is where the podcast word comes from and I'm tired of it. | ||
| I don't trust. | ||
| I don't like Apple. | ||
| Vodcast. | ||
| Vodcast. | ||
| Steltz should start his own vodcast. | ||
| And then people are saying he's going to start his own podcast, he's going to start uploading clips to YouTube, and then his audience, because it's independent media, is going to be very anti-establishment, and he's going to drift further to the right, and then eventually have some flipping moment where he's like, I need to blow the whistle on CNN. | ||
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Jet fuel actually doesn't melt steel. | |
| I feel like he'd have to do the rounds, like you know how we have, you know, conservatives who may fall out of like the establishment, they do some rounds on CNN, they take positions there and they're sort of like a punching bag for a while? | ||
| I feel like he'd have to do the opposite. | ||
| He'd have to like get some, I don't think any establishing conservative media would take him, but he would need to sort of do the rounds and be like, well, this is what I meant, and then have this whole redemption arc. | ||
| I mean, I think it would take a lot longer than people think because he is so publicly associated with being anti-MAGA. | ||
| Well, Cuomo, he founded the CCP. | ||
| Did you guys know that? | ||
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Yeah, he did. | |
| The Chris Cuomo Project. | ||
| Correct, yeah. | ||
| He literally calls it the Chris Cuomo Project. | ||
| And no one was like, hmm, think about this. | ||
| That's a bad idea, dude. | ||
| You should not do that. | ||
| I think Tucker Carlson is an example that you can redeem yourself as, because he was kind of like a partisan hack in 2004 or 5. | ||
| He struck me as one. | ||
| He wore a bow tie, talked about how great the war was. | ||
| I mean, at least that's what I remember, him being kind of like a war hawk. | ||
| And then all of a sudden, I don't know if it was Jon Stewart, somebody shocked him awake. | ||
| and he realized, yo, what the hell is this? | ||
| Well, he talks about it on his show where he's like, I used to think this, you know, | ||
| until I had a conversation with this person and then realized how wrong that was. | ||
| And it took years for him to get back in people's good graces. | ||
| But with honesty and integrity and consistency, you do. | ||
| I'd be willing to bet that if Brian Stelter came out like a month and said, | ||
| I want to blow the whistle on everything CNN was doing, the right would accept him in two seconds | ||
| and say, yes, yes, by all means, spill all the beans, publish everything and we'll hear you out. | ||
| I just wonder if he will, though. | ||
| Obviously, I don't know him personally, but like, I think it will be very hard for him to To flip like that, I think he really sees himself as this, like, doer of right things, progressive cause, champion of, you know, correct journalism. | ||
| I think it's going to take longer. | ||
| I mean, I think he's going to have to hurt financially before he's willing to give in. | ||
| It's what's weird to see him do is think on his own for in depth because he looks like it's like a talking head, right? | ||
| So he's reading the teleprompter. | ||
| He probably wrote it deliberately and he had this deliberate approach to everything but to actually see him free think through problems and through challenges and politics that would actually be entertaining to just listen to see if he ends up like a Tucker Carlson who I think is on the right side of what we're talking about. | ||
| That's the thing about Stelter, he does listen. | ||
| I see him in clips sometimes, sometimes like he's being humbled where he's like, oh, what have I done? | ||
| Oh God. | ||
| Like there's this Ted Koppel video I reposted. | ||
| Jen Perlman tweeted it out, so I retweeted it. | ||
| And Ted Koppel's like, I mean, this is the reason why. | ||
| I don't remember exactly talking about why CNN is failing, why people don't believe you. | ||
| You talk about Trump every day. | ||
| If there's 10,000 deaths in Malaysia, maybe it'll get a mention, but then it's just back to Trump, Trump, Trump. | ||
| And Stelter's like, just taking it. | ||
| You know, I mean, look, he's not really. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What was he going to say? | ||
| Be like, well, I'd looked up CNN, what it stands for cable news network. | ||
| Well, as we all know, cable is done. | ||
| So as is the C and CNN, what's the new, I mean, get rid of the name. | ||
| It doesn't make sense anymore. | ||
| Well, I, you know, look, with Liz Cheney on Tuesday being, what's the right word, trying to be polite here, excised, I'll say that, excised from the GOP. | ||
| That's a good day. | ||
| And then today when I got a message right before this happened, right before it was announced, someone who has got sources hit me up. | ||
| And said, Stelter's out, here it comes. | ||
| And then I was like, I need more than this. | ||
| You can't just DM me. | ||
| And then I saw a few minutes later the breaking reports and I'm like, oh man! | ||
| And then I got word Jim Acosta's gonna be next. | ||
| So, I look forward to it. | ||
| There's some positive here. | ||
| Let's jump to this next story and get into the politics of the day. | ||
| We have this from timcast.com. | ||
| Trump accused of election meddling after endorsing candidates in New York Democratic primary races. | ||
| I'm sorry, I love this man. | ||
| This is one of the greatest trolls ever done. | ||
| Donald Trump endorses lawyer Dan Goldman, who led the impeachment against him, saying, Lawyer Dan Goldman is running for Congress, New York 10, and it is my great honor to strongly endorse him. | ||
| I do this not because of the fact that he headed up the impeachment committee and lost, but because he was honorable, fair, and highly intelligent. | ||
| Well, it was my honor to beat him and beat him badly. | ||
| Dan Goldman has a wonderful future ahead. | ||
| I don't know how anyone sees that, anyone with any modicum of intelligence, and believes Trump is literally endorsing the guy when he's doing neg hits. | ||
| You know what that is? | ||
| It's like a backhanded compliment at these guys. | ||
| He endorsed several other people, but here's the best part. | ||
| Yulin Niao, who is a Democrat, so I looked her up, she's a Democrat assembly member, running for New York 10, took the bait and said, Donald Trump just endorsed my multi-millionaire opponent, in case you need a reminder of what the stakes are. | ||
| New York 10, choose your fighter. | ||
| She couldn't help it. | ||
| They can't help themselves. | ||
| Trump plays them like a fiddle. | ||
| And now he's got them in fighting over whether or not he actually supports this guy. | ||
| This is what he has to do. | ||
| He has the weight of the establishment pushing against him right now. | ||
| And I've been an advocate of like, if someone's coming at you and putting their full force into you, the best or one of the best things you can do is move so that you're not there anymore. | ||
| And that all that pressure that Donald Trump is like, just goes into this nowhere land, and then they end up falling forward. | ||
| Then you reappear, and then you're still back to, you know, who you are. | ||
| The prophecy has been fulfilled, ladies and gentlemen, from the Babylon Bee. | ||
| Ingenious move. | ||
| Trump supports impeachment, forcing Democrats to oppose. | ||
| November 18th, 2019. | ||
| The Bee does it again. | ||
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Wow. | |
| The thing is, his statement has so much early 2016 energy to me. | ||
| Like, there was a point in his presidency where he really seemed to sort of get lost. | ||
| They felt like maybe he didn't have the correct support when he was already in the White House. | ||
| But while he was campaigning and, you know, throughout, we see it come and go, he really is just this complete unpredictable force. | ||
| You can't really tell what he's going to do and he doesn't want to adhere to any traditional standards. | ||
| So that's why it's so funny. | ||
| Like, This is very much a true spark of Trump to me. | ||
| When he first announced that he was coming to president, it reminds me of all of the debates he did, his booing of Hillary Clinton on stage. | ||
| He doesn't behave as they would like him to. | ||
| I'm sure Goldman is like, what do I do? | ||
| Do I release a statement saying no thank you? | ||
| This is so much of what Trump does is what I've been talking about when I say, like, throw a pie figuratively. | ||
| Like, people in power need to set a tone, need to call out the BS, need to make a point. | ||
| Trump does this all the time. | ||
| It's quite incredible. | ||
| But I have to wonder where we go in this country as this is the current level of politics that we have. | ||
| I mean, they take the bait. | ||
| Donald Trump trolls the Democrats. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| I think too like there is a level of like yesterday I was looking at this article it was eight of the ten Republicans who voted against Trump are out and it's interesting because I think he's trying to show the Democrats that he has influence within their party like not in the way they're expecting. | ||
| He has more influence in politics than anyone predicts or is used to. | ||
| It's very unusual to have a leader who can actually bipartisanly reach across the aisles and be like, oh, it's not just the Republican primaries that I can influence, I can influence the Democrats too. | ||
| He's not even in office right now. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Can you go back to the tweet, the actual tweet? | ||
| What I find odd about the original, the first one on the left, is there's a dot, dot, dot, dot. | ||
| Well, it's because there's more. | ||
| I just mean everything about this. | ||
| There's four dots. | ||
| There's four dots. | ||
| I just look at it and I see psychological operations campaign. | ||
| It's like a PSYOP, right? | ||
| It's exactly what you do when you want to win hearts and minds. | ||
| If it's a real endorsement or if it's not a real endorsement, what we realize now is that everybody's talking about it. | ||
| And that's what you need when you're trying to campaign early on. | ||
| We're three years out, two months of change out, and we'll start feeling the effects of that tomorrow. | ||
| We're feeling it today. | ||
| And so this is only going to get more extreme and more difficult. | ||
| But how much of this is Donald Trump sitting down with a group of, like, tacticians being like, we need to craft the perfect message, or it's him lounging in a chair watching Tucker Carlson being like, I endorse this guy, and he like grabs a thing of Cheetos and then just like... I feel it's like both of those. | ||
| I think he's good on a whim, but I also think deliberately. | ||
| People forget he's a very crafty business person, and being in business myself for a short period of time, I understand the tactics, and even tactics that I've brought across the military aisle in planning and strategy. | ||
| He is using all of these tactics to bear, and I think he's unpredictable. | ||
| He would be unconventional or irregular in his warfare approach, while the rest of the establishment that you're draining, that he's draining, is very conventional. | ||
| I'm just thinking about, you know, they call him a fascist. | ||
| They claim he's, like, worse than Hitler. | ||
| Could you imagine if Donald Trump, like, ever did become a dictator, and then history is talking about how he rose to power, and it's like, well, he called Rose O'Donnell a fat pig, and then he made a tweet endorsing his opponents. | ||
| It's just like, wow. | ||
| You know, history repeats itself, history rhymes, but I think we're getting something fresh with Donald Trump to a certain degree. | ||
| I gotta ask, is this the 4D chess we were promised? | ||
| It's kind of what it looks like to me. | ||
| Yeah, I like it. | ||
| If you hate somebody, they are controlling you. | ||
| He's done that. | ||
| He's taken control of people's minds, whether they like him or not. | ||
| Well, especially the ones that hate. | ||
| Yeah, that's a way, that's a form of 4D chess. | ||
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I'm just reading the end of this, like, winning against him made me realize how just very talented I am. | |
| Okay, let me read it, let me read it. | ||
| So, I read the first part, he goes on to say, he will be very compassionate and compromising to those within the Republican Party and will do everything possible to make sure they have a fair chance at winning against the radical left Democrats. | ||
| I would like to thank Dan for fighting so hard for America and for working so tirelessly to stop, quote, Trump, end quote. | ||
| He was not easy to beat, but winning against him made me realize just how very talented I am. | ||
| Most don't read the second word, though. | ||
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I'm so sorry. | |
| This just, like, gets better and better. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| I hope one person said to him, like, oh, it would be hilarious if you endorsed a Democrat. | ||
| And then he's like, mm-hmm. | ||
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I'm done. | |
| I'll do it right now. | ||
| He's like sitting in his friend's basement, they're playing pool with the game on, and they're like, dude, dude, you should endorse the Democrats. | ||
| Like, oh, I'm totally gonna do it. | ||
| It would make him freak out, and they're like, okay. | ||
| That's what I love. | ||
| Somebody superchatted him and was like, you won't do it. | ||
| And he was like, oh, yes, I will. | ||
| Yeah, I think maybe he has realized that conventional tactics are not the way you win against the liberal economic order right now, because they're just Conventionally using brute force, you know, with the FBI raid on the house and things like that. | ||
| So now he's taking an unconventional approach. | ||
| We saw the Democrats funding Republican messaging. | ||
| And the idea was that it was going to hurt Trump to do this. | ||
| I think he was like, OK, I'll play the game. | ||
| You want to play that game? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So think, the Democrats are like, Trump endorsed these guys, so let's prop them up. | ||
| Then in the general, they'll lose. | ||
| So Trump says, OK, I'll endorse your guys instead. | ||
| And does. | ||
| That's what I mean, I think they underestimate how much influence he has over everyone. | ||
| Like, we see it as like, oh, it's just those right people, those conservatives, the MAGA base, but it's really not. | ||
| Like, Trump is an institution in and of himself, and I think, you know, he is sort of reviving the same kind of disruptive energy that made him stand out initially, which made people cover him when he was running in 2016, because they were like, what is he doing? | ||
| He put his name in quotes, too, which is nice, because it shows that he's not like, he was against me. | ||
| He sees that he's against the idea of what Trump might be. | ||
| Yeah, but someone said, someone was, Steve, Steve Bannon's mullet responded to you, Lynn, saying, that's just weird. | ||
| Why would he endorse Goldman? | ||
| And she said, he said it out loud to stop the left. | ||
| I do not believe, I'm sorry, I can't believe that this Yulin woman, if I'm pronouncing that right, actually believes it's a real endorsement. | ||
| Maybe she doesn't know the guy. | ||
| Do you think she seriously thinks he... | ||
| Maybe she's playing her own side, but I don't buy into it. | ||
| I think she literally probably believes that it was an endorsement. | ||
| Well, maybe she's betting off headlines, like enough people are going to see Trump endorses Goldman. | ||
| She's like, they aren't going to look into it. | ||
| I'm going to be able to. | ||
| But that would mean that she knows she's lying to her potential constituents. | ||
| She's a politician. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Is she lying for votes or is she just really that dumb? | ||
| I'm going with lying for votes for 500. | ||
| Neither one seems like a good look, you know? | ||
| My guess is ignorant that she doesn't know that was the guy that tried to impeach Trump. | ||
| No, he wrote that. | ||
| He headed the impeachment committee. | ||
| It's in the endorsement. | ||
| Damn it, I was wrong. | ||
| But we're also, I mean, here's the credit to Trump that's due that a lot of people don't talk about. | ||
| This is a tactician that killed ISIS. | ||
| Like this dude, like we forget about ISIS and all the problems that it was taking over the world. | ||
| We're about to go to World War 10. | ||
| He did that on his own accord as a commander-in-chief, and nobody talks about that. | ||
| They ragged on him for it. | ||
| They did. | ||
| They said, austere scholar. | ||
| How did he do it? | ||
| Well, I think he used a lot of different tactics, but he used special operations. | ||
| But it wasn't advertised as a war, so it wasn't campaigning with media outlets that were telling all the information. | ||
| It was a closed, compartmentalized operation that was very deliberate, using Ranger Battalion, using the best special mission units in the world, and crushed those guys. | ||
| And if it wasn't for that, I mean, the things that we saw on the TV when ISIS and their propaganda was affecting the world, everybody was like in fear. | ||
| You saw little kids running around with guns, killing innocent people from propaganda videos from ISIS. | ||
| That was a thing. | ||
| Like we lived in that time and all of a sudden we woke up one day like COVID and it didn't exist. | ||
| And it's because of those tactics that he brought to bear. | ||
| So I say that because he's a, he's deeply seated in strategy and understanding tactics on all levels. | ||
| And I think this is an easy psyops campaign for him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is PSYOP the right word? | ||
| As a politician, him trying to garner a favor in votes? | ||
| Is it just... I guess PSYOP is the right thing to call it. | ||
| It's not propaganda. | ||
| You can call it perhaps black propaganda, but it's not really, right? | ||
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| Psychological operations would be like the intent to twist things around from the get-go, the onset. | ||
| And whether it was like a haphazard, like, oh, I think I'm just going to do this and blast it out. | ||
| Or, hey, let's meet about this. | ||
| Either way, it had the same effect. | ||
| You're familiar with the concept of black propaganda? | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| Could you explain that? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, there's, well, propaganda across the board in the psychological campaign has many outlets. | ||
| I'm not a psychological expert, but psychological operations is part of what Special Operations does. | ||
| And every side of the coin, whether it's influencing bad guys to target bad guys, which I've done in the military, or it's twisting hearts and minds for egregious reasons, it basically is to control the battlefield with people's emotions and behaviors in mind. | ||
| So if you could affect people's emotions, if you could affect people's... I mean, I just did this for a TV show that we're doing, and we were talking about our Asian, very superior genetics before the podcast. | ||
| That's a joke! | ||
| So he's quarter Korean. | ||
| I didn't know that, but I'm half Korean. | ||
| Technically, 20%, because I'm 5% Japanese. | ||
| Yeah, I'm 13% Japanese, because that whole invasion thing, you know? | ||
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| Raping and pillaging and that stuff, that bad stuff. | ||
| So, we did a piece on Vietnam, and there was a psychological campaign that was them taking pieces of equipment, audio tape equipment, recording Vietnamese actors and actresses, Getting the information, and in this case it was their culture, where they believed in ghosts. | ||
| And they went out into the field and they played these voices of ghosts telling the enemy, you need to go home. | ||
| Playing the ghost of a daughter. | ||
| This is Vietnam? | ||
| This is Vietnam. | ||
| I heard about this story, we talked about it before. | ||
| Yeah, Wandering Soul. | ||
| It backfired. | ||
| It backfired because the people in placing it were so freaked out that they started disaffecting off the battlefield. | ||
| It was effective and they used a tiger, a roar from a tiger, and they had 150 Vietnamese, in this case North Vietnamese, disaffect, the communists disaffected and left their guns in place and evaded. | ||
| They did the same thing with the ghost thing, but it backfired because both sides in the culture, just like a religious or ideological campaign, it affects both sides. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It's black magic. | ||
| The recordings were wailing voices saying, I should have never. | ||
| So in their culture, they believe that if you're not properly buried, you're doomed to wander around aimlessly. | ||
| Wandering soul, yep. | ||
| Yeah, so these voices are heard in the forest saying, I should run while you still can, leave before it's too late or you'll be trapped here like I am. | ||
| They're getting chills now. | ||
| It's like little girl voices from Vietnamese little girls that were saying, Daddy, please, please, please, don't, go home, go home. | ||
| And they were like, in the middle of the night, triple canopy jungle. | ||
| And you're like, what is that? | ||
| And you hear it. | ||
| Dude, that would work. | ||
| That would work on anyone. | ||
| Is it because the allied troops didn't know that it was happening, so they thought it was real as well, or did they know and they were still freaked out? | ||
| They knew, but they didn't know. | ||
| Most psychological campaigns like this are classified, right? | ||
| This was declassified years later. | ||
| They have a timestamp on it. | ||
| But when they were in placing it and they played it, they thought, I assume they thought that this was actually recordings of ghosts and they were just in placing it and somehow the Americans got a hold of it. | ||
| But they were using indigenous forces. | ||
| They were using the local nationals to put the stuff in so they wouldn't be part of the operation actually. | ||
| But I think there's just no way for everyone to know it was an operation. | ||
| So if you have, you know, 10 local Vietnamese helping you, but there's a hundred within a few miles who end up hearing it and they start spreading the word. | ||
| Farmers, the local civilian populace started hearing it as well, and they were leaving everything. | ||
| So even the support that potentially the good guys were depending on, everybody was abandoning. | ||
| I kind of feel like they should have rolled with it because it prevented death. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, hey, let's end the war by just freaking everybody out and making them put their guns down. | ||
| Yeah, double-edged sword of psychological games. | ||
| But the question, like, if both sides were laying down arms and fleeing, isn't that, like, a better option than... The United States wanted our guys to come with guns and start taking control, so... Sixty-plus thousand Americans paid for their lives for that war. | ||
| What a reckless war. | ||
| Oh, it's horrific, man. | ||
| It annihilated a generation. | ||
| But let me ask you a question. | ||
| When it came to Afghanistan, I've never been a fan of it. | ||
| You know, I grew up with the invasion and nothing seemed to make sense and the media lied about so much. | ||
| It was used to justify so much awful stuff. | ||
| When Joe Biden surrendered and then, in my opinion, intentionally just destroyed our standing in Afghanistan, giving up Bagram, A lot of people mentioned, you know, I was like, we shouldn't have been there in the first place. | ||
| I think Biden did it wrong. | ||
| We got a few super chats where they said, should the U.S. | ||
| have stayed in Korea? | ||
| Should they have been involved there? | ||
| And I thought that was an interesting question because I've been to Seoul and I think it's absolutely amazing. | ||
| And it would not be there if the U.S. | ||
| did not intervene. | ||
| The entirety of the peninsula would be under a communist boot. | ||
| I'm curious as to your thoughts on U.S. | ||
| intervention. | ||
| You know, Vietnam was senseless. | ||
| It was crushing. | ||
| We lied. | ||
| Gulf of Tonkin to get involved. | ||
| But what are your thoughts on the Korean War? | ||
| Yeah, it's a good question. | ||
| I think, you know, when you look at even Japan, because, you know, the Korean War was because of the Japanese. | ||
| Basically, we're fighting over the dominance of that land from the Japanese. | ||
| And we're saying, hey, you know, these guys owned it, who owns it, we're going to fight for it. | ||
| And we wanted to fight in China and Japan for it. | ||
| And you know, the Korean War spanned from 1950 to 1953. | ||
| My dad stationed on the demilitarized zone in Korea met my beautiful mother in Korea as a 19, he was a 20 something year old soldier. | ||
| She was a 19 year old local gal. | ||
| The strongest economies in the world were Japan and Korea. | ||
| Why are they the strongest economies? | ||
| Because of the stable environment we were able to set with the security provided. | ||
| The problem with Afghanistan is we didn't provide that security. | ||
| So when you look at where we are, even in Iraq, where we maintain a signature there, when you pull the plug on all support, which is what we did. | ||
| I mean, my buddy Tim Kennedy and a group of merry men volunteered with Save Our Allies with Chad Robichaud and the Mighty Oaks Foundation and went in and extracted thousands of American civilians And Afghans that worked with us. | ||
| I did two rotations of combat to Afghanistan, and it's disgusting how we pulled the plug on those men, just like we did in Vietnam. | ||
| We did the same exact thing. | ||
| We don't learn the histories or the history of failure, which we did in the military on both sides. | ||
| And it was a problem. | ||
| It was a huge problem. | ||
| I've heard that we could have succeeded in Vietnam. | ||
| I'm not a history buff or any of this stuff, but I was watching some documentary talking about when the U.S. | ||
| decided to pull out and that there were moves they could have made. | ||
| Ho Chi Minh was trained by the Office of Strategic Service. | ||
| He was trained by the CIA originally. | ||
| Unsurprising. | ||
| And basically, we disaffected him because we didn't want an alliance between him and the French. | ||
| And we let him do his thing, which meant going to war with Ho Chi Minh. | ||
| And so, 1958 to 1975, that entire span of war cost a lot of American lives because we didn't have the proper strategy. | ||
| And you know what it is? | ||
| I think it has a lot to do with turnover. | ||
| The government and the military has a high turnover rate where you might implement a strategy and even individual tactics on the battlefield. | ||
| You'll do your time. | ||
| The next guy comes in and goes, well, I need to make my impact on the world. | ||
| Well, I need to have an officer evaluation report that says that I did something epic and we continue this momentum until the end of Afghanistan. | ||
| We're like, what the hell are we doing here? | ||
| I've lost buddies of mine at the tail end of Afghanistan, and at that point I said to myself, even early on in Afghanistan when I was there, I was like, this is for a just reason. | ||
| And then I was like, what the hell are we doing here? | ||
| Why did we lose that guy? | ||
| Amazing American, why did we do that? | ||
| Well, that's the thing. | ||
| People talk about how, you know, the U.S. | ||
| has maintained a military presence in South Korea, maintaining its security. | ||
| And I'm like... Germany, too. | ||
| Since 1941. | ||
| The Korea thing's a little different, though. | ||
| There's an active war. | ||
| You've got outright communists. | ||
| You've got people in North Korea starving. | ||
| They're in an actual cult reality where they believe insane things. | ||
| And then you have South Korea. | ||
| I actually got to interview... | ||
| This group of New Zealanders who they like to ride their motorcycles on famous, I guess, journeys. | ||
| So they did the Silk Road, right? | ||
| They went around, I think, like South America, along the coasts. | ||
| And then one thing they really wanted to do was go from North Korea to South Korea. | ||
| And they wondered if it was possible. | ||
| Well, New Zealand is like, no one's got a problem with New Zealand. | ||
| So when they reached out, this might come as a surprise to people, it was actually North Korea that wanted it to happen. | ||
| North Korea said, please do this trip because it's good PR for us. | ||
| South Korea didn't want it to happen because it was good PR for North Korea. | ||
| They eventually figured out how to do it. | ||
| How to negotiate it. | ||
| And I think the story was, it's been a decade since I interviewed them, it was back when I was at Vice, was that they were told by the Americans and the South Koreans, like, don't come. | ||
| And then they came anyway and said, look, we're going to be at the DMZ, you better accept us. | ||
| And they were like, what do we do? | ||
| And here's the amazing thing they said. | ||
| When they entered North Korea, they had a government escort. | ||
| And they drove through these towns and everyone would wave to them. | ||
| Everybody knew who they were and that they were coming. | ||
| The government made sure everybody was like, they're gonna come, we're gonna bring them through, everyone's gonna stand here at this time and wave. | ||
| And it's like kind of a freaky story. | ||
| When they made it to the DMZ and crossed over, there was no way to get motorcycles through this place. | ||
| They said once they came on the other side, they were escorted by the press. | ||
| That was the difference between North and South Korea. | ||
| The government mandating it, and the free press rushing there by choice to try and cover it. | ||
| So I bring that up because I wonder if we maintained that, if we had a universal attitude towards never intervening in anything ever, would South Korea be a hellish dictatorship? | ||
| And is it worth it? | ||
| I mean, look, my family left before, and it was partly because of rising tensions, my grandparents' family. | ||
| That's my understanding, I could be wrong. | ||
| So I'd still be here, but I'm curious as to your thoughts in that regard. | ||
| If we were able to maintain a presence in Afghanistan, could it have turned out to be something like Seoul where... | ||
| Yeah, I think the number one priority for any country to gain its sovereignty back. | ||
| You know, if you look at old pictures from the 70s and 80s of Afghanistan, it was a very modern society. | ||
| I mean, in Kabul and Kandahar, there's like convertibles and women were wearing their hair down. | ||
| It wasn't this radical thing that we look at now with Sharia law in Afghanistan. | ||
| So, the presence alone of security is what would maintain a jumping point for us to conduct Those supported counterterrorism operations to suppress all of the things, all the guys that wanted to come in. | ||
| They just dropped a bomb on Zawahiri, on his balcony, and supported by the Taliban and Afghanistan. | ||
| It's like that was the win because he was Osama Bin Laden's 2IC. | ||
| He was his second in charge. | ||
| I sat on checkpoints in 2004 and 2005 trying to capture this guy. | ||
| Everybody assumed he was dead. | ||
| He shows up all of a sudden because he's celebrating his freedom supported by the Taliban. | ||
| And it's like, what are we doing? | ||
| The most bizarre thing that I heard when all this was going down and Tim and Chad were activating, they had messaged me about it, Nick, all these guys, amazing men. | ||
| When I heard that we had outer containment on that airfield provided by the Taliban, I was like, what did a general on TV just say? | ||
| Outer containment was being provided by the Taliban? | ||
| Did he say that? | ||
| Did he say our enemy is literally providing security on the outer containment? | ||
| Oh, what happened a few days after that? | ||
| Oh, an IED went off and killed 13 Americans. | ||
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| It's insane. | ||
| All we needed is to maintain the airfields, the bases, and then that would be enough to suppress the terrorism. | ||
| Ian says it every single time, that Biden surrendered it. | ||
| Completely. | ||
| Completely surrendered. | ||
| It gives me chills in a bad way because we had all the opportunity there and I got one of my guys out with Saber Allies who helped me, so thank you so much Saber Allies, who worked with me and American forces for decades and we were willing to abandon him. | ||
| His brother who worked for us was killed and executed by the Taliban. | ||
| We were willing to commit their entire lives And to wasteland, knowing that they helped us because we completely pulled the plug with no excuses. | ||
| Now they're the most capable fighting force in the world as a terrorist organization, which they are. | ||
| They're Taliban. | ||
| And partly because we surrendered, what, $800 billion worth of equipment? | ||
| Mostly because we did that. | ||
| I mean, look, night vision is the scary thing for operators going into warfare, right? | ||
| You do a deliberate operation, direct action hit, you go in there with confidence knowing, hey, these guys can't see us. | ||
| We own the night is the idea. | ||
| Now they have thermal, infrared, Flare systems on pods to be able to track all of that, and that's scary for any friendly force that's going into harm's way. | ||
| You know, part of me felt like it was punishment for the anti-interventionists, for the Trump supporters, because Donald Trump sets this time frame to exit Afghanistan, and then Joe Biden just... I assume it was intentionally screwed the whole thing up. | ||
| Some speculation was that by screwing it up so bad, it would create a justification for a return. | ||
| instead of just maintaining a security presence, or at least when Bagram was being abandoned, | ||
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| give a phone call to the security forces, be like, hey, you might wanna go to the Air Force | ||
| or the Air Base right now. | ||
| Instead, looters showed up. | ||
| That I cannot imagine was an accident. | ||
| That you abandoned in the middle of the night without telling your partners | ||
| in the security forces in the country. | ||
| It fell apart so fast. | ||
| I just, it seems deliberate. | ||
| Yeah, one of the things that is a problem that happened, because I've planned non-combatant evacuations | ||
| for Mali, for Libya. | ||
| I spent a year in Libya working with the agency, but also working for the military. | ||
| When you do a non-combatant evacuation order, you go through a deliberate planning process. | ||
| What happened was the State Department, a foreign service agency, was giving the ball on running that plan. | ||
| The State Department can't plan a retirement party overseas, let alone a deliberate operation to evacuate innocent people. | ||
| So the military's specialty is that. | ||
| Special Operations Command. | ||
| SOCOM has the authority in combatant command theaters, which includes Afghanistan, to do these kind of operations. | ||
| And they train for it. | ||
| I train for it. | ||
| We do it for a living. | ||
| And they handed it to the State Department and said, you lead it. | ||
| You do it. | ||
| And they didn't do anything right. | ||
| It's one of the reasons why they failed. | ||
| They handed it. | ||
| Is it Biden? | ||
| Was it Biden that handed it to the State Department? | ||
| Oh, 100%. | ||
| Yeah, he gave it to the Secretary of State who ran the ball, and then they dropped the ball all over the country. | ||
| I'm with Tim. | ||
| I feel like it's like his way of intentionality, like saying, oh, Trump, you want to pull out on this thing? | ||
| Well, here, this is what happens when you rush it, Donald Trump. | ||
| It's not just that, it's that there's a longstanding international policy that the agency of the United States had, right? | ||
| That they had a plan in place of how we're handling things, and Trump disrupted the whole thing. | ||
| And it kind of felt like a sour grapes almost. | ||
| Like, you came in and you screwed up what we were doing, so there you go, that's what you get. | ||
| That's your Afghanistan, Trump. | ||
| Biden set this September 11th deadline, and it was clear that he was trying to present himself as like- He pushed the deadline from May to September. | ||
| So I, you know, I kind of wonder, you know, there's, we saw that viral video, I think it was, was it the Taliban who got that truck from Detroit with the guy's phone number on it? | ||
| And so a lot of people have talked about whether or not the US wanted ISIS to exist. | ||
| Because under Obama, they flourish. | ||
| And it was convenient because Syria was an enemy of the United States, was obstructing our plans with the Qatar-Turkey pipeline. | ||
| Syria, I'm sorry, ISIS comes into Syria and then starts destabilizing it. | ||
| Trump gets in, crushes ISIS like that. | ||
| So I have to wonder if part of it is the United States was well aware of the problems in the Middle East, but we're accepting it as a benefit to the United States in the long run. | ||
| Trump ending that pissed them off. | ||
| Maybe they want to destabilize the region. | ||
| And so this is why they turn over weapons and make the Taliban as powerful as they are now. | ||
| It seems very deliberate and very intentional because you can't imagine that I can't imagine that none of the generals, including General Miller, who is a freaking hero in my mind, who ran Afghanistan, who left prior to the departure of them pulling the plug, that none of those generals came to the table and said, listen, What you're planning and what you're talking about is reckless. | ||
| And as soon as we saw different regions of the Taliban taking out these places as it closed in on Kandahar and Kabul, we should have changed tactics, but we didn't. | ||
| And I've seen that from the State Department. | ||
| I saw it in Libya. | ||
| I saw it in Pakistan. | ||
| The State Department is very risk adverse. | ||
| There's always a battle between the intelligence community, Department of Defense, and the State Department. | ||
| Because the State Department, the Consulate, they're trying to maintain diplomatic relations, but their priority is supporting the President of the United States. | ||
| DOD's priority is supporting the national security of the country. | ||
| So it's like these things go to head and then the losers are the Afghan people. | ||
| We, you know, we talk a lot about maybe there was intentional, maybe there are reasons behind it. | ||
| I want to jump to this next story, which suggests everything you've heard about the problems Trump faced may actually be a result of Trump derangement syndrome. | ||
| In this tweet, Jack Posobiec posted a video from the Triggernometry podcast. | ||
| Shout out guys from the Triggernometry. | ||
| Sam Harris, quote, Hunter Biden literally could have had the corpses of children in his basement. | ||
| I would not have cared. | ||
| This is going viral like crazy. | ||
| And since this morning, 3.3 million views. | ||
| Sam Harris basically says that the what he calls a left wing conspiracy to suppress information to try and stop Trump from winning the presidency was acceptable and good. | ||
| It was warranted. | ||
| And Constantine's like, I have to stop you. | ||
| You're saying you're okay with this manipulation to prevent someone from winning a democratic election. | ||
| And Sam Harris is like, yep. | ||
| Well, he actually tracks back and says, no, no, no, I didn't. | ||
| You know, I stutter a lot of time. | ||
| Let's play it. | ||
| Let's play it. | ||
| Let me make sure I always have the audio set to the wrong setting. | ||
| All right, here we go. | ||
| Hunter Biden literally could have had the corpses of children in his basement. | ||
| I would not have cared, right? | ||
| It's like, there's nothing. | ||
| First of all, it's Hunter Biden, right? | ||
| It's not Joe Biden, but even if Joe Biden, like even whatever scope of Joe Biden's corruption is, like if we could just go down that rabbit hole endlessly and understand that he's getting kickbacks from Hunter Biden's deals in Ukraine or wherever else, right? | ||
| Or China. | ||
| It is infinitesimal compared to the corruption we know Trump is involved in. | ||
| It's like a firefly to the sun. | ||
| It doesn't even stack up against Trump University. | ||
| Let me pause you right there, Sam. | ||
| Let me just say something right now. | ||
| Trump University? | ||
| Trump University. | ||
| So Trump launched university and may have, his argument, defrauded a handful of people into giving up some cash. | ||
| And he's comparing that to Hunter Biden on the board of Burisma, Joe Biden's quid pro quo, the war that has erupted and is spreading across the country, the people who have died and lost their cities, Joe Biden sending billions of dollars to the Ukrainians. | ||
| So when you're saying, like, maybe he's getting kicked back, you know, I don't know. | ||
| Who cares what's in the laptop? | ||
| It is entirely possible that Joe Biden's hunter entanglements are what's exacerbating this conflict. | ||
| And you think Trump University is so much worse? | ||
| This is the point I'm trying to get to. | ||
| Trump derangement syndrome is so intense in these people's minds. | ||
| What Sam is saying makes literally no sense. | ||
| If Trump really is the con man they think he is, he's conned some American people out of their money, some property owners, and sure, that's bad. | ||
| But Joe Biden is conning the entirety of the country to the world and putting us in a very, very precarious and dangerous place with his inability to do his job. | ||
| And if Hunter Biden really is involved in, say, Chinese private equity deals, our security is compromised well beyond Trump ripping off some fat woman who bought a university ticket. | ||
| I'm sorry, man. | ||
| Sam Harris, this stuff lights me up. | ||
| Let's play more. | ||
| Trump University as a story is worse than anything that could be in Hunter Biden's laptop. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| There's images of Hunter Biden in the buff with family members, young minors that have been released from this. | ||
| He shares his bank account and his phone number with his dad, according to some reports. | ||
| He calls his dad a pedo. | ||
| And Trump University is worse than anything. | ||
| Let's play more. | ||
| To not have looked at the laptop in a timely way and to have shut down the New York Post's Twitter account. | ||
| That's a left-wing conspiracy to deny the presidency to Donald Trump. | ||
| Absolutely it was. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But I think it was warranted. | ||
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And again, it's a coin toss as to whether or not that particular piece... I'm really sorry. | |
| I was the one that said we should move on, but you've just said something I really struggle with, which is... | ||
| The kids in the basement? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Fuck the kids in the basement. | ||
| I'm interested in democracy. | ||
| You're saying you are content with a left-wing conspiracy to prevent somebody being democratically re-elected as president. | ||
| Well, no, I'm content. | ||
| But the thing is, it's just not left-wing, right? | ||
| So Liz Cheney is not left-wing. | ||
| Liz Cheney is doing everything in her power. | ||
| You're content with a conspiracy to prevent somebody being democratic? | ||
| No, but there's nothing... Conspiracy... It was a conspiracy out in the open, but it doesn't matter if it was... It doesn't matter what part's conspiracy, what part's out in the open. | ||
| I mean, I think it's like... If people get together and talk about what should we do about this phenomenon, you know, it's like... If there was an asteroid hurtling toward Earth, And we got in a room together with all of our friends and had a conversation about what we could do to deflect its course, right? | ||
| Is that a conspiracy? | ||
| You know, like some of... That last 20 seconds was absolute flubber. | ||
| He said it was a left-wing conspiracy to make sure that Donald Trump didn't get democratically elected and he was fine with it. | ||
| That's what he said. | ||
| And then he walked it back and said, no, it wasn't a conspiracy. | ||
| And it wasn't left-wing. | ||
| He just said it. | ||
| He just said it. | ||
| Sam, this is an example of intelligence without wisdom. | ||
| The guy goes on these logical tirades which have no emotional integrity. | ||
| No, like, the saying is, intelligence is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad. | ||
| And I think, right on from Ian, it's the right point. | ||
| Sam Harris is an intelligent guy, but he's, it's, It's a lack of emotional control. | ||
| To say something as insane, wrong, on moral and factual points is just like... | ||
| This is the danger. | ||
| I mean, Sam Harris is a very high-profile guy with a very large audience. | ||
| And he is a guy who goes out and talks about the zealotry of religious groups and how dangerous it is. | ||
| And then look at what he says. | ||
| There's no rhyme or reason to anything he was just saying other than he's an authoritarian who would use, by any means necessary, powers to crush people he doesn't like. | ||
| I think what strikes me the most is his last metaphor. | ||
| If there was an asteroid coming to Earth and we made a plan to stop it, that would be okay, right? | ||
| That's not a conspiracy. | ||
| Like, he is so convinced that what's happening with Trump is just this uncontrollable, unpredictable force, he can't accept the fact that People think differently than he does, and they want Trump to be in office, but they don't agree with his perspective, and therefore it's bizarre. | ||
| The whole thing he said was mishmash nonsense. | ||
| Like you mentioned, the last 20 seconds flubber, walking back, changing what he's saying. | ||
| This is... | ||
| Constantine, the trigonometry guys, they have values. | ||
| They have principles. | ||
| They're inquisitive. | ||
| They're trying to understand things. | ||
| And this was brilliant. | ||
| This is what real journalism is. | ||
| We don't get this from Brian Souther. | ||
| We don't get this from CNN. | ||
| This is him just literally saying, OK, you've made your point. | ||
| This is my question to you. | ||
| And then he sends Sam Harris into a spiral of nonsense. | ||
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| I mean, what they think Constantine does the best is he has a specific thesis he's trying to answer, which is, like, what can you do to defend democracy? | ||
| Where do you draw the lines between what is acceptable and what is not? | ||
| And I don't think Sam Harris has the moral compass to say, like, ah, yes, I respect how democracy works. | ||
| Like, for him, it doesn't matter. | ||
| What do you think is causing this, Trump derangement syndrome? | ||
| Look, I understand Trump says mean things, and you might be like, he lacks decorum, but to this degree? | ||
| I think a lot of it has to do with, like he said, this dude's very intelligent. | ||
| I mean, he's super intelligent. | ||
| I appreciated him up until you posted this on your Twitter feed, and it was like, are you kidding me? | ||
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That's crazy. | |
| Because it seems very deranged. | ||
| But I think a lot of that is caused by him living in an echo chamber. | ||
| He lives in a bubble in an echo chamber. | ||
| He's used to hearing the same people talk about the same things. | ||
| And just as he refers to the asteroid hitting the earth, like that's what he's correlating his argument to. | ||
| Like the worst case scenario in the world, you're comparing it to that. | ||
| What I think is fascinating, like you mentioned, Is these two guys are actually being journalist like and this is surprising because it's like what is this thing called like, you know objective reasoning on through journalism like they're actually having a conversation and he's willing to confront Sam Harris on this and catches Sam Harris off guard, which I love because like you said as soon as he catches them off guard, he starts going down a drain and he knows he's circling the drain. | ||
| He's probably killing time. | ||
| He's looking at the clock. | ||
| He's like, oh crap. | ||
| I don't know what to say. | ||
| You know what this is? | ||
| Sam said the quiet part loud, not realizing that he would be challenged and that, I think what Sam said is what he truly believes in his heart of hearts. | ||
| Yes, yep. | ||
| But that is not something you can say right now when you're trying to maintain this, you know, principle position of opposing authoritarianism. | ||
| No, he is an outright authoritarian, as so many of these anti-Trump people are. | ||
| What's the, what's the, what's the big, it's crazy. | ||
| I see these people on Facebook saying, you know, Trump's a fascist, far-right authoritarian. | ||
| And they're saying the same thing about Ron DeSantis. | ||
| And I'm like, what have they done? | ||
| Trump wouldn't even bring in the military to stop the rioting. | ||
| We watched the rioting go on all over the country. | ||
| And Trump said, well, I can't. | ||
| Man, I'm sure a lot of people wished he was more fascist and would have stopped this rioting. | ||
| He didn't do it. | ||
| Then you get Antifa going around and where's that accountability? | ||
| They get propped up by the media and the corporations. | ||
| They get defended. | ||
| They get defended by CNN. | ||
| There's a compilation Daily Wire put out. | ||
| Chris Cuomo is like, the problem is not, you know, the rioters. | ||
| The problem is what made your fellow man have to go out and riot or something like that. | ||
| And it's like, no, no, dude. | ||
| These people are going around and there's no rhyme or reason to what they're destroying. | ||
| This is exactly it. | ||
| Sam, there was a viral tweet where a guy was in Beverly Hills and he was cheering on the riots. | ||
| And he was like, yeah, riot, woo! | ||
| And then later on he tweets like, why are you coming to Beverly Hills? | ||
| Stop, don't come here, go downtown. | ||
| No, no, what are you doing? | ||
| They love it when they're watching these people destroy other people's lives. | ||
| But when it turns to them, Jimmy Dore, I think I have a tweet from Jimmy Dore. | ||
| Jimmy Dore tweeted, quote, I'm for censorship if it helps my side politically. | ||
| I mean, I just can't see a downside to thinking like this because I don't read history and I'm super smarter than you. | ||
| I see I'm stuttering like Sam. | ||
| He didn't, right, say exactly how Sam, right, would say it, right. | ||
| He likes to do that, right, right, right. | ||
| Like, agree with me? | ||
| Agree with me? | ||
| Are you in my cult? | ||
| Yeah, he needs the affirmation. | ||
| And I think that's probably because he's surrounded by people who are like, no, of course we have to move the laptop. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Like, that's the only way to stop the asteroid. | ||
| Because that's what they equate Trump to. | ||
| I think that he isn't... | ||
| used to being pushed back, I think maybe he would have, like, I don't know if this happens on the show that often, but I think there are people who go on and expect to be interviewed in a very positive sort of softball way. | ||
| They expect people to be like, oh yeah, I get what you're saying. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Thank you so much for being here. | ||
| And I really, you know, I applaud Constantine for being like, we have to return to the thesis, which is that you would be willing to, like, circumvent democracy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Let's get to the meat and potatoes here on this story though. | ||
| Civil War. | ||
| What's the possibility? | ||
| We have this from Project Veritas. | ||
| DHS whistleblower leaks new joint intelligence bulletin on domestic violent extremists set in wake of Mar-a-Lago raid. | ||
| I mean, this is crazy stuff here. | ||
| DVEs. | ||
| Information contained in this intelligent bulletin is for official use only, blah blah blah. | ||
| Project Veritas released a leaked document today from within the Department of Homeland Security which shows how federal agencies are reacting to a recent raid of Trump's Florida home. | ||
| Considering the Trump derangement syndrome of people like Sam Harris, and then we learn about people in the federal government who are saying things like this, my concern is that Sam Harris's level of derangement exists within the DHS, and this is going to make things Dangerous. | ||
| So I know this is the report that smeared you. | ||
| Do you want to give us a breakdown of what happened? | ||
| Yeah, so Project Veritas drops and leaks this document which is sent to like all special agents, right? | ||
| It's like, think about it like a memorandum or an updated pamphlet to educate your special agents in the field. | ||
| It's not supposed to be disseminated outside of the institution, outside of their portal. | ||
| So they get this and it's an educational piece to inform, like, what are the new trends? | ||
| And this one says both militia and domestic violent extremists, which they use both of those terms. | ||
| And then it has a whole bunch of different pictures of different organizations, including my organization, American Contingency, which is pretty crazy. | ||
| Again, I started American Contingency with this idea of bringing community and people together. | ||
| That idea stemmed from a Seattle experience where, if you remember, what is the name of the town? | ||
| It was the fake little town that in Seattle they stood up Chaz. | ||
| Chaz. | ||
| Chaz, yeah. | ||
| So it was supposed to be a utopian universe for everybody to flourish and then it turned quickly into a socialist safe haven because they had armed guards, they had checkpoints checking IDs, And it didn't work out for anybody. | ||
| Now they killed people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And when that happened, they started migrating and then peaceful protests turned into violent, extreme protests. | ||
| And for the first time, it came out that people who are law-abiding citizens said, we need help from the police. | ||
| Now my company, Philcraft Survival, we teach this idea, you are your own first response. | ||
| Because whether it's breaking your leg in the middle of a UTV trail, a natural disaster, a man-made disaster, you're going to be the first on scene. | ||
| Know how to treat injury, know how to respond, know how to do something. | ||
| So, that's our educational platform. | ||
| Well, when they didn't respond, because the politicians told the police, do not respond, because the political climate won't support this, don't respond, they put law-abiding citizens in harm's way. | ||
| And I said, we're going to do something about it. | ||
| AmCon, American Contingency. | ||
| Now, what happened, because I talked to Veritas, I talked to all these guys, What happened is, a special agent within the FBI saw that we started this militia organization, which we are listed as a militia. | ||
| And this organization, which they labeled, has a low history of violence. | ||
| They called, they said, my organization has a low history of violence. | ||
| We have zero history of violence. | ||
| On January 6th, people actually asked me in the organization, we're talking 100,000 people. | ||
| They asked me, Mike, what are we going to do here? | ||
| I said, it's easy. | ||
| I'll release a statement and I'll give you the guidance. | ||
| And I hated even being that, but I knew I represented as a speaking head, kind of the guidance for the organization. | ||
| I said, listen, group leaders, We're not going to do anything. | ||
| It's a protest that potentially could be dangerous. | ||
| What we are going to do is report all of the things that would benefit people on the outskirts of this protest so we can give them force protection measures and intelligence and information so they could protect themselves. | ||
| So we could say, hey, the crowd is moving into X neighborhood. | ||
| Be sure that you're aware, lock your doors, protect your family. | ||
| That was the number one objective. | ||
| To be called a violent militia and extremist by both the public, which is not surprising, who's miseducated, misinformed, but then by the government. | ||
| On top of that, in the same week, by the way, the government called us a militia violent extreme group. | ||
| The leftists called me a white nationalist and a racist, which is fascinating because I have black, Mexican, Korean, white in my same family. | ||
| You're literally a mixed race person. | ||
| Mixed race person. | ||
| And then the far right called me a bootlicker because I reported that I even cooperated with the FBI during this time period. | ||
| Not during January 6th, but we had a guy who said he was going to shoot up some innocent people. | ||
| I am a law-abiding citizen. | ||
| You come into my public forum, in my business, in my group, and say you're going to shoot and harm people? | ||
| I am going to report you to local authorities. | ||
| That same person took a picture of a special agent's business card. | ||
| I don't know how he got it, but he took a picture of it and posted it on our forum, which was on Locals. | ||
| We originally were on Locals. | ||
| In fact, Dave Rubin started Locals with the idea of getting behind a paywall protected from the social media sites that were canceling and deleting people. | ||
| Except we were the biggest platform on Locals. | ||
| We were bigger than Dave Rubens. | ||
| You're not on Locals anymore? | ||
| Once they sold, things started changing in the algorithm, and it was too much for us to moderate. | ||
| Because on Locals, you have to self-moderate. | ||
| So I started seeing the woes of even social media. | ||
| I'm like, how do you keep this talk and the negativity down? | ||
| So we migrated to our own server on AmericanContendency.com. | ||
| So all this happens in the same week, and I'm like, I feel like I'm living in Middle Earth. | ||
| I feel like I'm a moderate, and I'm like, this is what happens when you decide that you just want to go to work, you want to feed your family, you want to serve the country, and you want to live in freedom for the rest of your days. | ||
| You become the enemy of everybody on the fringes, and that's exactly what we are. | ||
| But the fringes are almost everybody these days. | ||
| It seems that way. | ||
| Here's what I'll say. | ||
| I'll say like Evan Hafer who owns Black Rifle Coffee, a good friend of mine. | ||
| Me and him have the same social political views on a lot of things in life because we fought war for decades. | ||
| We come back from that war and experience and go, I don't want civil war. | ||
| People are like, Mike's taking us to war. | ||
| No, Mike Glover's not taking you anywhere. | ||
| I've experienced enough of that. | ||
| You don't want any of that. | ||
| I've been to Africa, to the Middle East. | ||
| You don't want any of that world. | ||
| And so there is a big pull of this. | ||
| I think it's ultimately the people that are listening to you because you're not on the fringes. | ||
| You're actually just logical. | ||
| Reasonable, and you're talking about this fringe ideology that's affecting everybody, and you just want to, with a truth bomb, you just want to live somewhere in between. | ||
| But the thing I bring up, I mean, look man, you've got the FBI raid on Donald Trump. | ||
| They accuse him of being a fascist. | ||
| He's certainly none of these things. | ||
| They've lied about him relentlessly. | ||
| They've just made all this stuff up. | ||
| It's becoming impossible to be left alone. | ||
| And you know, my thing is, what I will say, They're going after Alex Jones with everything they have because of his influence. | ||
| And they're going after Donald Trump because of his influence, because they know they can't stop him. | ||
| This November, I mean, look, Liz Cheney's gone, Carrie Lake just won, Brian Stelter is out. | ||
| These are tremendous cultural shifts in a very positive direction, which is all really good news. | ||
| I'm hoping that if we maintain this trajectory, then we avoid any kind of real conflict. | ||
| But when you look at the lengths that the machine has gone, even smearing you, it's like, bro, you're the guy who's saying quite literally, please let me just raise my family and be left alone, and they're not letting you. | ||
| They're putting this Bolton out, they're smearing and insulting. | ||
| I worry that this is gonna escalate to something substantially worse, right? | ||
| I talk about civil war quite a bit. | ||
| Here's the prediction from Mike Lover who runs Phil Krause Survival and does this for a living, looking at preparedness, looking at threats. | ||
| It's my academic experience. | ||
| It's also my counter-terrorism, counter-intelligence experience. | ||
| During the election cycle, we will see a massive disruption. | ||
| And on election night, prior and after, you will see what feels like civil war and heavily- You mean in the next few months? | ||
| In the next few years. | ||
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| Because we're going to have a lead-up. | ||
| All the social media platforms are going to start getting leverage. | ||
| The troll farms from China, Russia, North Korea's influence will start affecting us like it did with BLM and Antifa and the election cycle. | ||
| And what you're going to see up is a lead-up attention And what you're seeing is politicians, irresponsibly, weaponizing government agencies and people. | ||
| And what you're going to see, especially in heavy populated areas, is what looks like a civil war. | ||
| You're going to see, imagine this scenario. | ||
| You have Antifa and BLM who comes out like they did. | ||
| And they started burning down the streets. | ||
| Except now you're gonna have the right fringe who's gonna come out and go, we won't accept this. | ||
| It's not just that. | ||
| During the Summer of Love, locals, just apolitical people were seen standing on their street corners with rifles. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| So then you have this imbalance where you have leftist extremists, right-wing extremists, and then the people in the middle just defending what they own. | ||
| Their families, their friends, their communities, and then all of these things are happening, and then it starts bleeding into the outskirts, it starts affecting everybody. | ||
| But what happens when the law enforcement officers are caught in the middle? | ||
| Now, are they not supposed to defend their lives? | ||
| They're in the middle of an active gunfight. | ||
| So take the Rittenhouse situation and amplify that in a full skirmish, where the battlefield are the streets of densely populated areas like Chicago, where you come from. | ||
| So, uh, you've seen V for Vendetta? | ||
| Yes. | ||
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| I wanna just, uh, just think of that scene at the end where the guy says, eventually someone will do something stupid, and it shows the finger man, the cop, shoot the little girl. | ||
| All of the local residents just walk up with weapons and they go after that cop and then it like camera pans up and he goes, ah, like they're no longer going to tolerate law enforcement. | ||
| I think it won't be over something like that, but you'll get to the point, like you mentioned a Rittenhouse situation. | ||
| We've already seen circumstances where people have beaten cops, where cops are caught in a riot. | ||
| And then if it gets to the point where these rioters are unscrupulous and just literally don't care anymore, Then you're gonna get a V for Mandela-like situation. | ||
| There will be a riot. | ||
| A cop will come out and he'll be telling people to get away. | ||
| They won't. | ||
| He'll fire probably a less lethal, and then they'll just start clobbering on him. | ||
| So, we often talk about, particularly with people who've experienced war, you know, our friend Forrest Cooper mentions, the people who are trained in war and who've experienced it are the ones begging you to stop, because they don't want to see this happen. | ||
| I've not been in war. | ||
| I've been in civil conflict and unrest, so precursors to. | ||
| The worst thing I've seen was people in Egypt shooting at each other with makeshift, they had these pistols that were like 12, they were 12 gauge, I think, and they would, single shot, you break barrel, break action, put it in, close it, bang! | ||
| And from atop the Hilton, I watched someone get shot, killed, and then their body was carried away. | ||
| That was the one time in this reporting I've seen someone just deliberately be killed in front of me. | ||
| Not in front of me, like relatively close, but I was high up, so I was safe. | ||
| We were all pretty safe. | ||
| And that experience was like... | ||
| Having covered some of the unrest, riots, fires, I was on West Florissant and Ferguson when they were burning down the entirety of that whole block. | ||
| You drove your car down the street, the fires were so intense, in your car it felt like the fire was right in front of your face. | ||
| Seeing that, and knowing that's not even warfare, I can't imagine, you know, like, I'll just ask you, like, what do you think the average person would do if they actually were, you know, forced into the fray of people engaging in a firefight in their neighborhood or something? | ||
| Yeah, so, you know, war tends to be a complex thing, but in the primal, like the ancestral version of it, it's very simple. | ||
| I mean, it's very simple. | ||
| It's violence, it's chaos. | ||
| The people who are trained for war, my peer group who are trained for war, go into war with intent, meeting tasks, purpose, and objectives. | ||
| And so when you have that, and you understand what that is, it's demonstrated in this idea of art of war, right? | ||
| We understand how to operate in war. | ||
| People who have not, people who are so fragile, they can't change their tire in a fender bender, they lose their mind, a simple emergency trauma, they lose their mind where somebody actually pays for their life when something so simple could have been done. | ||
| That's the world we live in, because we're living in that. | ||
| You know what's really crazy to me? | ||
| So when I did the hostel environment training, They had to explain to people how to apply a tourniquet and to put it over the wound. | ||
| So like, they did, they said, okay, so we have a dummy here, he's got a bleed in his leg. | ||
| And people were like, where does a tourniquet go? | ||
| They would put it under, and they're like, it has to go above. | ||
| And I'm like, yes, otherwise it's not stopping the blood. | ||
| In between the heart and the wound. | ||
| Yeah, I don't understand. | ||
| It was crazy to me that people didn't understand that. | ||
| We actually had one guy, when they showed a video of a femoral bleed, he fainted. | ||
| And then I was just thinking to myself like, What would have happened to this guy? | ||
| You know, he's in his neighborhood. | ||
| Violence, war, conflict breaks out. | ||
| We're in such a safe era here in the United States. | ||
| If he saw a modicum of the violence that our troops had experienced, he'd be on the battlefield and he'd look down and just collapse. | ||
| Like, that to me is just, it's just bonkers. | ||
| Yeah, I did, you know, I deployed all over the world. | ||
| In Yemen, Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Libya. | ||
| And a lot of the things that people deal with in those countries, they deal with because that's the way life is. | ||
| A byproduct of freedom is complacency. | ||
| And it always has been. | ||
| Because we optimize our life in this democracy, in this sovereignty, and it makes our life really easy. | ||
| But it also makes us very weak. | ||
| And there is a very specific percentage of the country from my peer group who knows what warfare is. | ||
| And then there's the rest of society. | ||
| One of the reasons we started Fieldcraft Survival is to teach civilians about worst case scenarios. | ||
| Because if you train for the worst case, you're prepared for everything in between. | ||
| Don't train for the best case, train for the worst case. | ||
| The crazy thing to me is how to convey that experience of actually watching violence and trauma to an individual so they understand why it's so important to be prepared. | ||
| Look, there was a story about a club. | ||
| A fire broke out and everyone immediately ran to the door and they all jammed themselves in it and then I think like people died and there's a video where a guy when everyone's running and screaming calmly walks to the to the fire exit in the back next to the stage and just walks out You know, I've always done this my whole life, and maybe it's because my dad was a Marine, but, or as a firefighter, actually, and he would say, no matter where you are, whenever you go in a building, wherever you are, know your exits. | ||
| And so my whole life, like, we'd walk in, I'm a little kid, and he'd be like, where's a fire exit? | ||
| And I'd look around, like, it's right there, and he goes, you got it. | ||
| And then I hear these stories of people who are so unprepared and so complacent, they don't even understand how to leave a building when the smoke alarm goes off. | ||
| Let me tell you a story, man. | ||
| I worked for Fusion, which is the ABC Univision joint venture, no longer exists. | ||
| I'm in the New York office, and it was a really, really nice office. | ||
| They had desks, and then they also had these little diner chairs they had set up, so you could sit in a comfy little chair at a table with your friends and talk. | ||
| And so I'm sitting there with my computer, and I'm with my producer who was working with me. | ||
| All of a sudden, the bright lights start going off. | ||
| Wah, wah, wah, full blast. | ||
| I grab my computer and the plug. | ||
| I put under my, I get up, jump out of the table, and I look over, and she's just sitting there, | ||
| and I'm like, come on, let's go. | ||
| And she's like, what? | ||
| I'm like, the alarm's going, let's go. | ||
| And then she grabs her stuff, and then I look over at everybody, | ||
| I'm like, yo, let's go. | ||
| And there's 50 people just sitting there, and they all look at me. | ||
| And then I'm like, I ain't waiting. | ||
| I get out of the building, we were on like the third floor. | ||
| I go outside, I'm standing outside. | ||
| I get asked, like, what's going? | ||
| I'm like, the fire alarm went off. | ||
| get out of the building? What do you... And then nobody else came out. | ||
| Fire trucks pull up. | ||
| This is in New York. | ||
| Two trucks pull up. | ||
| All the firefighters jump out, run inside. | ||
| And then a few minutes later, one by one, the employees all start walking outside going like, what's happening? | ||
| What's happening? | ||
| And then I was like, did you guys seriously stay in the building when the fire alarm went off? | ||
| And you're on, it was like a five-story building or something, like the third floor. | ||
| Turns out there was some kind of gas leak or fire threat. | ||
| And it's remarkable to me that these people were so comfortable. | ||
| The fire alarm literally did not persuade them to get out of the building. | ||
| That's what scares me when we talk about all of this stuff. | ||
| The potential for conflict is that I have witnessed people sit in a building with the | ||
| fire alarms going off full blast before this happened. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| We were in a different building. | ||
| The power goes out. | ||
| The speakers go on. | ||
| This is an emergency situation has arisen. | ||
| Remain calm. | ||
| Stay in the building. | ||
| And I was like, nope. | ||
| And I got out of the building. | ||
| Everybody else stayed. | ||
| Turns out there was a leak in the basement that had made contact with an electrical system, caused a short, huge fire risk, and they didn't want anybody rushing to the doors and panicking and leaving. | ||
| So they all just sat there using battery power on their laptops, and I left the building and went to a cafe to work. | ||
| I've seen so much of this, man. | ||
| I was in Ferguson. | ||
| I'm with the guy. | ||
| He's a veteran field reporter. | ||
| He's fired fully automatic guns. | ||
| He's been in war and conflict. | ||
| He's got legit body armor. | ||
| And they make the announcement that Darren Wilson will not be indicted or something like that. | ||
| And then all of a sudden, we hear bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. | ||
| I'm on the ground. | ||
| I look to my right. | ||
| Dude's on the ground and I'm like, my man. | ||
| I look to my left and there's a guy from ABC standing there looking around going, those fireworks? | ||
| And I'm like, get down! | ||
| And then he's like, what's happening? | ||
| I was like, do you see anybody with fireworks? | ||
| No. | ||
| Do you see guns? | ||
| Okay, dude. | ||
| It's crazy to me, man, when you're put in these situations, and I'm not even talking about war, I'm like, just street violence, riots and stuff, but to see how people act when this stuff goes down? | ||
| I imagine, like, in the heat of the chaos, there's very little you can do to convince uneducated people about it, so is this why, like, you're doing this now, so people ahead of time, like, I was thinking last night, okay, I've been in emergency mode for, like, weeks. | ||
| It just strikes me, like, what if there's an active shooter? | ||
| What if there's a fire? | ||
| I should have a plan with my neighbors, with my environment. | ||
| So what steps, from start to finish, if someone were to experience an emergency, a life-threatening emergency? | ||
| Yeah, so all the things you're describing when we talk about worst case scenarios, whether it's natural, man-made disaster, has to do with stress. | ||
| They're all, like a catastrophe is actually a stressful event, just short in duration of time, but elevated in the actual volume of stress that you get. | ||
| So a lot of people aren't prepared for mild stress. | ||
| And you know, I make the joke, like, if your girlfriend texts you and says, hey, I saw you liking those girls' yoga pants videos on Instagram. | ||
| How do you react? | ||
| A lot of people are like, oh, what are you talking about? | ||
| And they get angry and emotional, and they don't know how to react, their palms sweat. | ||
| And that overreaction is a correlation to high-grade stress, how you're gonna react to high grade. | ||
| So a lot of people in our society, they use groupthink as a psychology tactic, which they don't know they're doing, but it's like, if that person's not moving, why would I move, right? | ||
| So we're all sheeple, right? | ||
| We're just not doing anything. | ||
| So the idea is like, identify the threat, Observe, pay attention to what it is, but like Tim said in a couple of examples, physical displacement from the X, or the crisis, is the best way to survive. | ||
| So break your physical body up and away, create distance, time, and as many obstacles as you can put in between. | ||
| But because we're curious, we want to catch everything for the gram, we're like, what is that noise? | ||
| Is that firecrackers? | ||
| Let's walk out with a phone and catch this on my story on Instagram, and then get potentially shot in the face. | ||
| Not just that, but I've seen these veteran journalists, they do no training, and they go into hostile environments, and they put everybody at risk. | ||
| Yes, it happens all the time. | ||
| I've seen it too. | ||
| I've seen it live, in war, with journalists that were with us. | ||
| Sebastian Junger is a good example. | ||
| One of his best friends, who is a cinematographer, on Restrepo when he went was hit by an RPG in Libya and | ||
| killed. Not saying they did the wrong thing, but that's the potential risk to your life. Our society is | ||
| very fragile, very weak, and if you're not getting prepared now, then you should be. When you say | ||
| make distance and time from the X from the tragedy or from the, I guess, emergency, are you | ||
| saying like, so this is a fire, you want physical distance, but you also want, when you say | ||
| time, what is that? Like you want water that'll make the fire take longer to kill? | ||
| You want to create, in the distance, which is correlated to time, you want to create a gap space in getting off the X. The proximity, which, a lot of the indications of a catastrophe, we sense, obviously, through sound, smell, taste, whatever it is, we feel it, even intuition. | ||
| We're like, hey, something might be wrong. | ||
| Follow your intuition. | ||
| One of the reasons why so many people are getting killed is because we're complacent, but that relates to our laziness. | ||
| It's like the idea of, like, you're in bed watching Netflix with your spouse. | ||
| You hear a loud noise downstairs. | ||
| What do you immediately do? | ||
| You write it off. | ||
| You're like, oh, that's probably the cat. | ||
| Honey, we don't have a cat. | ||
| Oh, well, it's the neighbor. | ||
| The house is settling. | ||
| Get off your ass and physically assess the situation. | ||
| So if you hear fireworks, oh, that's fireworks. | ||
| If it sounds like gunshots, start moving and then figure it out on the way out, and then read about it on the news. | ||
| But don't take the chance that something's going to happen. | ||
| And then that's obviously the first part. | ||
| The second part is the technical proficiency you need, and then also the inoculation of stress. | ||
| Most people forget that, like, if I teach you to apply a tourniquet, take you three minutes. | ||
| I mean, it's not hard. | ||
| You got a pen. | ||
| Yeah, it's a pen, a belt, material, an actual tourniquet that costs $29.95 on fieldcraftsurvival.com. | ||
| It's not expensive. | ||
| But you get that tourniquet. | ||
| What we're forgetting in technical proficiency is there's this inoculation, suppression of stress, which means you're likely going to be in a sympathetic nervous response, fighting and flighting. | ||
| Your body primarily wants to move. | ||
| So you have to be able to technically react and do those things while under stress. | ||
| We don't have anything in our society besides jujitsu, combat sports, sports, period, that allow us to do that. | ||
| But what are we seeing? | ||
| We're seeing woke culture making us more soft because everybody gets the participation. | ||
| One thing that stuck with me for a long time is this story I was told when I was younger. | ||
| Somebody in my neighborhood, these guys got into a fight. | ||
| Some guys beat up some guy. | ||
| A few days later, you know, a guy B beats up guy A. A few days later, guy A's friends see guys B, and they run up and start wailing on him. | ||
| And then all of a sudden, in the middle of the pummel, one of the dudes pulls out a knife and goes, one, two, right in the chest of the dude they were beating up. | ||
| The other two guys go, whoa, whoa, dude, dude, and pull him back, like, what are you doing? | ||
| Like, we were just beating him up. | ||
| They asked the guy, are you okay? | ||
| And he's like, yeah, I'm fine. | ||
| And he gets up and runs, turns the corner and drops dead. | ||
| They hit his lung. | ||
| And it was crazy when I learned about sucking wounds. | ||
| I think that's right, right? | ||
| How simple it would have been to save that guy's life. | ||
| Relatively simple. | ||
| I mean, I don't know. | ||
| I'm not an expert on how to, I know you can do the trick with like plastic wrap and tape on three sides, but couldn't they have just like, he could have like stuck his finger in it or plugged it or something. | ||
| Well, so your chest cavity, your chest wall, it's very fragile to say the least. | ||
| You take a puncture in the chest, you're going to collapse a lung because the negative pressure in your lung collapses because it needs that pressure. | ||
| What you're doing in the chest seal is you're applying it to that laceration where you've been compromised in your chest cavity and it's reestablishing the balance in that pressure. | ||
| What sounds like, to me, that situation is he hit something that's vital. | ||
| So he said something in the pump house. | ||
| He might have nicked an artery, bled internally, which in that case he would need a chest tube, or he would need upgraded levels of care, and there might not have been a thing he could have done for it. | ||
| At least the story is we were told that it caused a sucking wound, so maybe my understanding of what happened was wrong. | ||
| But in that circumstance, you'd think it was just they couldn't do anything about it. | ||
| Yeah, likely he got stuck in the pump house or a major artery off of the branch of the heart | ||
| that he bled internally. | ||
| Because a sucking chest wound is going to help with circulation and respiration. | ||
| So when you apply that, like I've treated guys in real life | ||
| where the guy has a laceration in his chest, he has a sucking chest wound, he can't breathe, | ||
| he's completely pale, and then you put a piece of plastic basically, | ||
| it's got Hydra tape that's on it, and you put it on his chest | ||
| and he immediately comes back because his lung inflates, | ||
| and he's like, oh my God, like holy crap, that was crazy. | ||
| Well, when somebody's bleeding internally, that's one of the hardest things to stop. | ||
| It's how you kill big game, elk or deer. | ||
| You hit them in the chest cavity, in the pump house, and you hope to double lung them, and they bleed out immediately, dead in 30 seconds. | ||
| I gotta say, man, you know, I always tell people, have some emergency food, have some emergency water, you should have a go bag, clothes in it, all the supplies. | ||
| I would probably stress that people probably look into your stuff and figure out the basics, because I just watched a fight video. | ||
| It's on Reddit. | ||
| Dudes are fighting in the street, everyone's laughing and cheering, and then one guy takes a swing, dude ducks, comes up, returns the hook, bam! | ||
| Guy just hits the deck. | ||
| It's crazy how simple it is. | ||
| starts shaking his head violently and I'm like she's gonna paralyze that guy. | ||
| Yeah. People don't know anything about this. It's crazy watching videos so often | ||
| of people if they just were told one sentence could save a life. Crazy man. | ||
| It's crazy how simple it is. It's very simple. Yeah you mentioned stress management earlier in jiu-jitsu. | ||
| I've often thought and been talking to people that also think that the police could benefit from taking jiu-jitsu, at least being like a purple belt or something in jiu-jitsu, that they could manage stress better. | ||
| I hadn't thought that of combat sports as a way to, like, while you were talking, I was like, oh, working out. | ||
| The more muscularly, you know, beat up I am, the more I'll be able to handle a fire or an invasion or something. | ||
| That's resilience. | ||
| We call that resilience, right? | ||
| It's your ability to bounce back through adversity and difficult circumstances. | ||
| The best way to do that, which, you know, Leah Stumpf and Andy Stumpf are good friends of mine who teach this through their dojo in Kalispell. | ||
| The idea is when you're fighting and combating a person, I'm 240 pounds, 6'1", I'm a big Asian dude, I have a diverse combatives background. | ||
| I step in a ring with a black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, a 150 pound dude, he will pretzel roll me in half. | ||
| Getting beat by another human being in a physical confrontation is very humbling. | ||
| Because the idea that you would increase your sympathetic nervous response, get more aggressive, louder, more angry, is all the things that's going to get you choked out faster. | ||
| So, you have to be calm. | ||
| You have to concentrate on your breathing. | ||
| You have to rely on technical proficiency. | ||
| And if you don't manage your stress, you'll just get choked out. | ||
| And that's the benefit of Jiu-Jitsu, I think, on a massive scale. | ||
| Andy has talked about this. | ||
| All the guys that are in my same circle have talked about how every law enforcement officer Should be trained at a minimum in Jiu Jitsu. | ||
| Greg Anderson, a buddy of mine in Washington State, runs a program as a former police officer where they're training law enforcement officers to be better at Jiu Jitsu to make them prepared for what they see in the streets. | ||
| So you're trying to train regular people and all this stuff. | ||
| I mean, that sounds like it would be a really, really great thing. | ||
| If every single person in this country had basic survival skills and preparedness skills, it would make us, I mean, just particularly well prepared for any kind of invasion or conflict or war or anything like that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I wonder why it is that government institutions would oppose that. | ||
| Well, here's why. | ||
| You outsource everything to the government because we have this collaborative social agreement, this non-written contract. | ||
| We're going to pay taxes, so we're going to outsource healthcare. | ||
| We're going to outsource first response. | ||
| We're going to outsource everything to make our life more convenient. | ||
| So, when you empower yourself, which is what we're teaching, we're not just teaching preparedness, we're teaching self-reliance. | ||
| And that is offensive for a government who wants control and power. | ||
| The less power they have, the more you cut the umbilical cord, the more opposed they are to that. | ||
| There's classic cases of it, obviously. | ||
| I was going to ask if you have a lot of teachers who reach out to you, because I hate to say it, but stress management... I know obviously we could be talking about school shootings, but even just... I went to a high school where we would have occasionally kids OD in the classroom. | ||
| If you're in a scenario with unpredictable people, even if they're not inherently dangerous to you, being able to manage your response to them and know how to react in a lot of scenarios seems really valuable. | ||
| Yeah, so we're starting a kids program this year with our family director of preparedness, Amber. | ||
| We started teaching women. | ||
| And a lot of those women were teachers. | ||
| And a lot of those women were single moms. | ||
| And they showed up and were like, why are you here? | ||
| It's like, well, because we want to know how to be prepared too. | ||
| Because it seems like to be like a tactical industry thing. | ||
| But normal people want to know how to manage stress, how to apply a tourniquet, how to react in an active shooting. | ||
| So, you know, we were very critical of Uvalde and all the things that went wrong because we want to make the wrong right in the future. | ||
| And we've gotten a huge response from teachers. | ||
| In fact, my training director, Sean Kirkwood and Kevin Owens, who were both veteran Green Berets, They are working with our law enforcement instructors because a Green Beret teaching self-defense isn't the best tactic always, right? | ||
| We kill and capture bad guys. | ||
| We don't do the legal law enforcement thing. | ||
| We deploy these law enforcement officers all over the country to teach these teachers and teach these resource officers how to be better prepared. | ||
| And that's what we need ultimately, because the superpower we are, I think the Second Amendment makes us a superpower, which makes us not Ukraine. | ||
| That's why you got to subsidize Ukraine with billions of dollars and all the assets to bear. | ||
| America is a superpower because of the constitutional freedoms that we have, but also our current capability. | ||
| The NRA, which I am not an advocate of the NRA, outside of their lobbying to support constitutional security, When you look at the NRA and why it stood up, it stood up post-Civil War, 1840 or 1861 to 64, Civil War. | ||
| I think it stood up in 65, I might be wrong. | ||
| But when you look at why they stood up, it's because they wanted to make the civilian populace better prepared to defend themselves because they were shooting flintlocks from hips or didn't know how to load it. | ||
| We were a national superpower because of that. | ||
| And I think that's ultimately what we are as a population. | ||
| The more prepared we are, the better capable we are against Russia, China, North Korea, Iran. | ||
| If they wanted to band together and take this country over, it'd be an easy fight. | ||
| Yeah, there's a gun behind every blade of grass. | ||
| It was 1871. | ||
| I think also it makes people less afraid of each other. | ||
| When you're comfortable or confident in your ability to defend yourself, there's less reason to fear Donald Trump or random guy down the street that might be armed. | ||
| You know, like it's a lot easier to, I don't know, No, we see that on the range when people show up, you have all backgrounds. | ||
| It's not tactical guys showing up to our ranges. | ||
| It's like mothers, fathers, 18, 19 year old young people who want to be better prepared. | ||
| When you see that and them coming together, the second and third order effects of all this, When people come together trying to be better prepared, they start building community and they start going, they don't, they don't go, Oh, you're a Republican or you're a Democrat. | ||
| They go, Oh, you want to be prepared too? | ||
| Like, I don't care what your background is or who you politically affiliate with. | ||
| I'm on that same page. | ||
| Let's do this together and protect our family. | ||
| Let's learn a skill. | ||
| And that's the biggest component that we've made is this idea of bringing people together over a commonality, which is being best prepared. | ||
| And it's better for you if your neighbors are prepared, especially if you have a positive relationship with them, right? | ||
| When we grew up, I assume all of us knew what community watches were, right? | ||
| You had a community watch that would watch out for each other, and you hated, like, the pesky old lady. | ||
| My dad, we used to talk about her, like, God, she's always talking about what's new, what's different, what changes in that environment. | ||
| Now we live in a society where you pull up and you see your neighbor checking his mail and you're scowling because you're like, who is this? | ||
| Like, that's our neighbor, honey. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| But you know why Community Watch went away? | ||
| We had someone on the show talk about this, that if you form a Community Watch group, anything you do now is conspiracy. | ||
| So everybody, like all lawyers are telling people, don't be involved. | ||
| High liability conspiracy. | ||
| Yeah, I get it. | ||
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| If I tell you in your bedroom, I'm like, Hey, I'm thinking about starting a company. | ||
| That's a conspiracy. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| What they're saying is if you were, if you were in a community watch group and then one guy goes out and someone is, is, is breaks into a building and they get into a fight and the, and the, and the, the burglar, the robber gets killed. | ||
| They will say, if you can't justify the killing, it was a conspiracy to commit murder, and the other members of the community watch are involved. | ||
| Wow, when did that start happening? | ||
| Someone talked about it on the show several months ago. | ||
| So I don't know exactly when it started happening, but... I could see it. | ||
| I could see that it would be some kind of legal precedence where it increased the liability. | ||
| The local district attorneys were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, we can't manage this. | ||
| Because like American Contingency, we try to co-cooperate with local sheriff's departments. | ||
| Because if we are the first on the scene of an accident, how can we best support and facilitate a first responder about to come in? | ||
| If I know and I'm trained how to identify a threat or identify a casualty and can facilitate a law enforcement officer who's coming in to do the rescuing or do the facilitation of rescue, Then I am an asset to that community. | ||
| But again, the district attorney comes in, they have a political affiliation and they go, oh, this is too much liability. | ||
| You do your job and just live in your life and let us do our job, which is controlling your life. | ||
| And that's threatening. | ||
| I mean, having chickens, having a homestead, growing your own food is threatening to people in this country. | ||
| They said Facebook said canning was extremist. | ||
| What? | ||
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| We were just making jelly. | ||
| I got deleted for a canning video because it was seen as extreme. | ||
| What? | ||
| When we started this company, every video that we did that was even remotely related to self-reliance was seen as extreme and it was deleted from Facebook. | ||
| The people who taught me most about Sufferlines were my step grandparents who are just like older white people from Texas who have like canning stuff and some horses. | ||
| Like we, we, uh, we grew some vegetables. | ||
| We wanted, we have berries. | ||
| So we've got a good like three or four weeks of berry season out here. | ||
| So you gotta preserve them. | ||
| And you know, you gotta know how to can because if you don't do it right, it can create botulism and it can kill you when you try to eat the canned food. | ||
| You gotta know how to boil the thing. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I geek out on the homesteading stuff. | ||
| It's some of the stuff that we teach. | ||
| But the whole idea is going to only help the government because it's less stress and strain But if you look at what the government's tactics are it's to create more reliance because if you are if you are Dependent on solely on their finances their government health care systems and all the things then they have you they have you hooked they have your vote because they have you hooked any Displacement from that is threatening by by the government I was just going to say, does your group get accused of cultivating vigilantism? | ||
| Is that one of the fears? | ||
| That you guys are going to think that you're better than law enforcement? | ||
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| I mean, that's the title militia. | ||
| That's as described by the government of who we are. | ||
| And people are like, oh, it's no big deal. | ||
| They just called you a name. | ||
| No. | ||
| When you designate somebody a name in the government, that comes with authorities. | ||
| Those authorities come from lines of funding. | ||
| That means execution orders to do surveillance and all this other stuff. | ||
| So it gets more deeply seeded in the weeds when they title you a militia. | ||
| And we most certainly are not. | ||
| We're a community of Americans that just want the best. | ||
| We're gonna go to Super Chats. | ||
| If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the URL to this link wherever you can if you really do like the show, just share the show in general, and head over to TimCast.com, become a member, because we're gonna have that uncensored members-only after show coming up at 11 p.m. | ||
| Let's read. | ||
| We got Evan Grant who says, Tim's wrong about apps listening on conversations. | ||
| I've literally run tests to have people mention products to me while my phone's out, not doing any searches, and then checking ads. | ||
| I don't know what you mean about me being wrong. | ||
| Are you saying that I'm wrong when I say they're probably not listening to you? | ||
| It's just predicting your behavior? | ||
| So you've heard people say that like they'll say something near their phone and then their phone will do an advertisement for it? | ||
| The claim is that they're not really listening to you, but that the algorithms can predict your behavior so well that it seems like they're listening to you. | ||
| So the example we gave the other day is father sees a bunch of letters come in, advertisements in the mail for pregnancy gear and stuff. | ||
| From Target. | ||
| To his daughter, and he's like, he calls them up like, why are you sending maternity stuff to my teenage daughter? | ||
| And they were like, it's just an algorithm based on what you search for. | ||
| We don't know. | ||
| Turns out, the daughter wasn't searching for pregnancy stuff. | ||
| She was searching for stuff like, why do I feel this way? | ||
| Do I need, you know, nausea medicine or something? | ||
| And the algorithm knew that based on the things she was doing and when she was doing it, she was probably pregnant. | ||
| Because it can see a hundred million women all saying the exact same things when they get pregnant. | ||
| However, I will add, I was talking with, when we were talking with Jack Posobiec on the show, we mentioned Book It. | ||
| Book It was the old program. | ||
| Remember Pizza Hut? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know how old you are. | ||
| How old are you? | ||
| Forty-two. | ||
| Forty-two. | ||
| So, you had Book It when you were a kid, right? | ||
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| You'd read the book at school, and then you'd get a free donut, you'd get a pizza. | ||
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| I got an advertisement for a booking agency that said BookIt, and it was their tagline. | ||
| And I saw it and I was like, okay, that makes no sense. | ||
| In what context would anything... I mean, BookIt doesn't exist anymore. | ||
| So the only thing it could show me was an ad for travel called BookIt. | ||
| Dude, they're listening. | ||
| Okay, Google, stop. | ||
| Alexa, stop. | ||
| Those machines are listening to you. | ||
| I think there's one in here right now. | ||
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It's listening to me. | |
| It's also that they figure out, like, if you're sharing a wireless network with someone and they're researching a topic, it will also serve those ads to your phone, right? | ||
| Because you're on the same network. | ||
| Did anybody hear Google Search book it? | ||
| My Google thing is on right now, by the way. | ||
| Sorry, I didn't understand. | ||
| You just told it to turn on. | ||
| Yeah, I told it to stop, but I guess that's not the turn off command. | ||
| It was like, yes, you asked for me? | ||
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| Isn't that wild? | ||
| I can turn on your machine if you're listening to me at home. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| My point here is, Jack was talking about Pizza Hut nationalism and referencing a program that doesn't exist anymore, you should not get an advertisement for it. | ||
| I got an ad in big blue bold letters that said book it and I was like get out of here dude. | ||
| I don't travel. | ||
| There's no reason for me to be... I'm here for 16 hours every day, morning and night, doing this show. | ||
| Almost no travel. | ||
| There is nothing in my search that I am doing that suggests any kind of travel. | ||
| The only way this could have been delivered to me is because it was listening to me when I said, book it. | ||
| And the machine assumed book it meant book the travel. | ||
| When I was talking about a reading program, because there's no more reading program, the only ad it could serve me was travel. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| I was traveling with friends once, and we all grew up in Connecticut. | ||
| And if you're from Connecticut, you probably know what Bean Boots are, which are, they're an L.L. | ||
| Bean product. | ||
| They're just really popular. | ||
| And they were telling me that, like, one of my friends had gone to school in Chicago, and someone had recognized her as being from New England because she was wearing these L.L. | ||
| Bean boots. | ||
| I have never searched for them in my life. | ||
| I don't own them. | ||
| I don't follow L.L.Bean or anything like that on social media. | ||
| My phone was in a separate room charging. | ||
| I walked in the first ad it served me was for L.L.Bean Boots. | ||
| I remember I was talking to someone on Facebook Messenger, and then I was talking to someone in person at the time, while on Messenger, and then all of a sudden a little thing popped up for the ad about what we were talking about. | ||
| We were talking about going to like, you know, Uno's or whatever, Pizzeria Uno's. | ||
| And then all of a sudden a thing popped up and I was like... People in the chat are like, Ian, you turned my TV off! | ||
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| All right, let's see. | ||
| George Fraterelli says, so glad Mike is on to tell his story, and also how the FBI is targeting American contingency. | ||
| Hot damn, hey Mike, please talk about your time in the Old Guard and the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. | ||
| Oh yeah, so big shout out to my buddy Khan, had a third infantry soldier who's going to ranger assessment really soon. | ||
| He shouted out to me and said, hey, you want to get a tour? | ||
| And I had some tomb guards reach out to me and say, hey, we'll give you a tour of the quarters, which is in the middle of Arlington National Cemetery. | ||
| So back when, you know, Sergeant Major Glover was a private, I was an E1, 17 years old. | ||
| I went to the old guard as my first stint prior to 9-11 happening. | ||
| This is 1997. | ||
| And one of the hardest things that you could do in the military period was try out to be a guard of the Tomb of the Unknowns. | ||
| So it's been guarded 24 hours a day by the Army since 1948. | ||
| It's right down the road in the middle of Arlington Cemetery. | ||
| It has the World War I, World War II Korean Vietnam unknowns. | ||
| They disinterred the Vietnam unknown because they identified him as an Air Force pilot named Major Michael Blassie. | ||
| He since was disinterred and buried in his home state of Missouri. | ||
| And then I was a guard there from 1998 to 2000 prior to 9-11 happening. | ||
| So I was badge holder number 470 and right now they're at 701 for the badge holders. | ||
| It's the second hardest badge to get in the military besides the astronaut's badge. | ||
| And took me nine months to earn my Tomb Identification Badge and was the most difficult thing that I did in the military. | ||
| Out of all the things I've done. | ||
| What do you have to do? | ||
| You have to guard the Tomb of the Unknowns on a cycle or a schedule based on your relief. | ||
| And there's three reliefs based on height. | ||
| And you do that 24 hours a day, seven days a week since 1948. | ||
| But how do you earn the badge? | ||
| You go through a process, so you have to memorize 20 plus pages of knowledge on Arlington National Cemetery. | ||
| There's uniform inspections. | ||
| My standard will remain perfection is line 6 of the Sittinel's Creed. | ||
| That whole methodology is ingrained into you as a Tomb Guard, where you have to be perfect. | ||
| So, it was a crazy deal being so young and doing that, but it's what established my whole military career. | ||
| So, uh, Ian Kinney said something. | ||
| I was just reading it while you guys were talking. | ||
| He says, Tim, you should see what Media Bias Fact Check says about TimCast. | ||
| I think you'll be upset and possibly will want to send them a letter. | ||
| Uh, absolutely not. | ||
| I'm, I'm, I think it's actually amazing. | ||
| So, uh, Media Bias Fact Check, if you've ever heard of them, they tell you if it's left or right. | ||
| Um, they call us right wing at TimCast.com. | ||
| I do think that's silly considering TimCast.com is like 80% not political. | ||
| So it's like, Cast Castle is not, Pop Culture Crisis is not, Inverted World is not, Chicken City is certainly not, I hope. | ||
| They're the most political part, what are you talking about? | ||
| It is true, yeah, when Roberto, so, do you know the politics? | ||
| Roberto was found guilty of sex crimes. | ||
| So he's been sentenced to the penal colony of Cocktown with 20 other roosters. | ||
| And Roberto Jr. | ||
| has assumed the role of Sheriff of Chicken City. | ||
| Chicken tenders. | ||
| But Media Bias Fact Check says, factual reporting, very high. | ||
| Press freedom rank, mostly free. | ||
| Medium traffic with high credibility. | ||
| It's fantastic. | ||
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Sounds great. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| But you're right wing. | ||
| I mean, they can call me whatever they want. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| They say, due to story selection. | ||
| And it's like, okay, I guess. | ||
| I mean, like, we report on hearing aids, you know, the Biden administration signed. | ||
| You did that, right? | ||
| That was me. | ||
| Like, I'm not sure that's right wing. | ||
| I mean, I really think that our reporting is incredibly mixed. | ||
| And part of that is because our journalists have a lot of interest. | ||
| Like, they are not, in and of themselves, all in one rabbit hole. | ||
| I mean, We kind of cover everything, really. | ||
| But I don't care if they call us right wing. | ||
| But again, I think we're the coolest news site, so. | ||
| They can call me right wing. | ||
| I'm not going to get mad about that. | ||
| They said we were high credibility and green, like big letters. | ||
| I'm like, oh, there you go. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| That's right. | ||
| We have higher standards than NewsGuard. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Than even NewsGuard. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Nick Conant says, I asked Lauren today why she wasn't drinking $1,000 whiskey in a paper cup in her live stream. | ||
| Her response, I only drink other people's $1,000 whiskey. | ||
| Very smart. | ||
| True to form. | ||
| Very smart. | ||
| So are you familiar with Pappy? | ||
| Uh-uh. | ||
| It's just like $1,000 whiskey. | ||
| Oh yeah, Pappy. | ||
| Oh yes. | ||
| Very familiar. | ||
| Lauren Southern was here and she grabbed a paper cup and asked if she'd have whiskey. | ||
| I said, sure. | ||
| And she was pouring it in the cup and drinking from it. | ||
| And I didn't notice. | ||
| And then someone pointed out. | ||
| And then I was like, Lauren, are you drinking the $1,000 whiskey out of a paper cup? | ||
| And she's like, is that how much it is? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Like what? | ||
| There was a guy, a restaurant owner, who got so frustrated with how difficult it is to get Pappy and there's like an allotment that he started giving out at cost and then one year he gave it out as jello shots and then he stopped getting allotted Pappy Van Winkle. | ||
| Ooh, smart. | ||
| Alright, Raymond G. Stanley Jr. | ||
| says, Brian Stelter is a reliable source, like Antifa is anti-fascist, like abortion is healthcare, like men can get pregnant, like Biden is the great unifier, like fiery is mostly peaceful, like Tim has hair. | ||
| Brilliant. | ||
| Bravo, good sir. | ||
| Spicy. | ||
| Yup. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Triton 54 says would give anything to see Mike in a room with Brandon Tatum discussing Uvalde. | ||
| Everyone needs to watch Mike's take on the Uvalde response that Green Beret made this | ||
| Navy chief stand at attention for 90 minutes straight. What was that about? | ||
| Well, it's me calling out Uvalde and I think that the issue where they're mentioning Brandon is he | ||
| was he was backing him because he's backing the Blues. | ||
| He's a former sheriff's officer, and that's what you do when you're taking care of your tribe. | ||
| But I consider law enforcement officers, because I train them for a living as part of my job, brothers and sisters, and I want to make sure that I'm always doing right by them. | ||
| So doing right by them means criticizing them when they're wrong, And so for 90 minutes, I went through the video that was released to the CCTV camera, had the breakdown timeline with the CCTV camera, and went minute by minute through what was right and what was 95% wrong. | ||
| Where can people find that video? | ||
| It's on my YouTube channel. | ||
| We have two YouTube channels, the Philcraft Survival Channel and Mike Glover Actual. | ||
| I believe that one's on the Philcraft Survival Channel. | ||
| It's got a couple million views, a lot of people who are heated and talking about it, | ||
| but I think that's a good thing because if you could extract anything good, | ||
| we should never make that mistake ever, ever, ever again. | ||
| And it also is a testament to law enforcement failures, but law enforcement successes. | ||
| Because it wasn't for the BORTAC operators, whose job, by the way, is not responding to active shootings in schools. | ||
| They do border patrol and react to crisis on the border. | ||
| They, on their own accord, went in there like heroes and got in a gunfight with a bad guy that killed 19 kids. | ||
| On their own accord, because they're a part of that community, to a testament to everything you are working on, I believe you call for. | ||
| Yes, they were taking care of their own community, and if it wasn't for those guys, there'd be more children potentially dead. | ||
| Alright, Matt Zarella says, Tim, please hire Brian Stelter and make him wash your car while dressed like Biff at the end of Back to the Future. | ||
| I get that because I watch Back to the Future. | ||
| A little bit of humility for Brian is going to go a long way right now. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What's he going to do? | ||
| I can't imagine. | ||
| Well, some blog BuzzFeed will hire him, I guess. | ||
| He'll get a professorship somewhere. | ||
| He's going to be okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't worry about him, I have to say. | ||
| Matthew Valesquez says, Hello Tim, what are Mike's thoughts about the rooftop Koreans in California circa 92? | ||
| Oh, yes. | ||
| So, yeah, the rooftop Koreans is, you know, my mom and had friends who lived in LA at that time, Koreatown was radically invaded by a whole bunch of radical protesters that were violent and extreme, who killed multiple people and wounded a lot of people injured a lot of people. | ||
| The rooftop Koreans were taking care of their businesses, but protecting their lives and self-defense. | ||
| It's the great thing about the Second Amendment that allows you to do that before all the radical gun laws came to California. | ||
| With just an interesting note, I want to remind people when you can do this research, Gun control came from government institutions wanting to counter the Black Panthers in the 1970s and 80s, specifically under Reagan when Reagan was the president. | ||
| Those laws were expanded into Texas and that became gun control because they were fearful of law-abiding citizens who happen to be black, protesting with firearms around government buildings, and that started the snowball rolling downhill. | ||
| So when you're voting for these things, when you're thinking about these things, when you look at your rights, just remember where that started, and any of those infringements on those rights started with the Black Panther movement. | ||
| You know, one thing that bums me out with the culture war stuff is, I tweeted something about Second Amendment. | ||
| Absolute. | ||
| Have your guns. | ||
| And then I got this leftist response. | ||
| And they were like, yeah, but I don't hear you saying, you know, black people should have guns. | ||
| Your position is totally fake. | ||
| And I responded with, I think every single black person in this country should be walking around with an AR-15 if they so choose. | ||
| I think the Black Panthers should be armed to the teeth. | ||
| And then he responded with, based. | ||
| And then I'm like, yes, bro, I don't care if I'm on the left or the right. | ||
| I think everybody has a right to keep and bear arms. | ||
| I don't know why they assume that about us or other people's positions, that we don't want the Black Panthers to be armed. | ||
| That's Second Amendment, bro. | ||
| They should all have guns. | ||
| What is it, the Not F-ing Around Coalition? | ||
| You know those guys? | ||
| Yes, yeah, yeah. | ||
| They had some misfires, which is, come on guys, training is responsibility. | ||
| A couple accidental discharges. | ||
| Accidental discharges, there you go. | ||
| Sorry, not misfires. | ||
| But I'm like, I watched that video and I'm like, I dig it. | ||
| Like, cool, man. | ||
| They're like walking around. | ||
| They're all armed. | ||
| They're doing their thing. | ||
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| Right on, man. | ||
| They're not hurting anybody. | ||
| They're peacefully protesting. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Now, the accidental discharges is a problem. | ||
| But like, it's fine to call it accidental discharges. | ||
| I mean, they should never keep them at arms. | ||
| Maybe those guys who should, you know, maybe at that regard, there should be, you know, I don't know. | ||
| It's a criminal charge, right? | ||
| I believe, right? | ||
| Yeah, it's basically firing a firearm in public. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So look, I understand that, but I watch these videos of these guys and they're pretty aggressive, but hey man, I got no beef. | ||
| I was thinking last night how badass this country is and one of the great things is the individualism, the ability to kind of not have the state looking down your back because it's in those times of Silence and solitude where you can create great things where you're not interrupted by outside forces. | ||
| This is an amazing opportunity. | ||
| We'll try and read some more Super Chats. | ||
| We got Martin Edgar. | ||
| He says, The viewing of pictures and video of combat is nothing like actually experiencing it. | ||
| Being there is 100 times worse from a Gulf War and Somalia vet. | ||
| Thank you for your service, Mike. | ||
| 24ID3CE Victory Division. | ||
| What do you, without, I want to ask you all about your experience in the war. | ||
| We don't have time for that on this show tonight, obviously, but like what was the biggest difference in the perception of what it was going to be and then what it was in reality when you were there? | ||
| I think the effects on innocent people, right? | ||
| You fight an insurgency, which is the most difficult thing to fight. | ||
| It's not conventional forces going head-to-head in an open field like the Civil War. | ||
| It is literally going door-to-door and then going, is that guy going to kill me? | ||
| Is that guy a bad guy or is that an innocent person? | ||
| And innocent people are affected by it. | ||
| So, when people talk about civil war, what they're really talking about is an insurgency, where you can't identify friend from foe. | ||
| Where the person that's waving at you, friendly, that one second, is throwing a grenade into your vehicle the second. | ||
| So that is very difficult to manage and for me the most difficult thing in my nine trips and four and a half years to war was seeing innocent children and women affected by that. | ||
| The men, middle-aged males who were aggressively going after us in a war, free game, but you'll never be in a conclusive battle. | ||
| Just you and bad guys toe-to-toe. | ||
| All of these bad guys are surrounded, using them as human shields by their children and their women. | ||
| And it's disgusting to see that, but that's the horrific side of war, I think. | ||
| One of the, and this is just a video I saw. | ||
| One of the most brutal videos was a father holding his son who had died in, you know, street conflict. | ||
| And the sound that man made, it's just like, man. | ||
| You know, these LARPers, these Antifa people who want a revolution are going to be the first ones crying and begging for... These people who pretend to want this revolution, as soon as they get what they want, they'll be begging for an authoritarian regime to take over and bring back stability by any means necessary. | ||
| They will cry and beg. | ||
| It was a mistake. | ||
| We didn't mean it. | ||
| We mean it. | ||
| We want Trump. | ||
| In Russia, they call it calm. | ||
| They want calm. | ||
| They don't talk about peace. | ||
| They talk about calm. | ||
| Just want to be able to walk down the street, pick up a loaf of bread, go back home and share it with your family and not have to worry about getting hit by shrapnel or an IED. | ||
| Let's see, Below Few says, last night you guys talked about how infrequently men cry compared to women. | ||
| I had a pretty good streak going until you started reading detransitioning perspectives on Reddit. | ||
| Very powerful episode. | ||
| Yeah, that was the members-only thing we did last night. | ||
| We were talking about these issues and we pulled up the D-Trans subreddit where it's mostly young women talking about how they were misled and how they regret this and their lives are destroyed. | ||
| The terrifying thing is how some of these people are talking about taking their own lives and, you know, we want desperately to avoid all of that, but we got dark days in this country, man. | ||
| All right. | ||
| KG Seath says Jocko Willink on Joe Rogan said cops should be trained in jujitsu. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| At what belt level do you think would be sufficient for an officer? | ||
| Blue at a minimum. | ||
| So there's white and then blue, which is general proficiency, both top and bottom. | ||
| So you understand leverage and control. | ||
| I think at a minimum, it needs to be blue. | ||
| And I think the experts, including Jocko Willink, who is an expert, would say the same. | ||
| Would you have it done at the police academy level, or is this something that you'd have to continuously pursue, like someone with a fitness test? | ||
| Good point. | ||
| I mean, the biggest deficiency in obviously going after defunding the police officers is budgets and constraints that are within the department. | ||
| And what I tell people, as I did in the military, I wasn't a great operator in special operations because the military or the institution made me such. | ||
| I went out on my own time and went to jiu-jitsu dojos, shot competitions on the side, and did all these things that made me better. | ||
| So I would say, yes, part of that should be the institutional academy or patrol academy, but they should not use that as a crutch and do it on their own, being more silver lining. | ||
| All right, Ayazia Fraser says, no Tim, fiddles are quite difficult to play. | ||
| Trump plays them like the cheap kazoos they are. | ||
| Uh, they're also expensive. | ||
| Yeah, so, uh, good, good point. | ||
| Fair point, uh, point taken and accepted. | ||
| I just can't get over, like, being, he tells me how good I am, like, what? | ||
| Yeah, how talented I am. | ||
| How incredibly talented. | ||
| Trump's so great, man. | ||
| He does, he does, uh, He has these lines that you're just like, no one in the world would script this for you. | ||
| I just, whoever would try to recreate a Trump speech, I just, I can't imagine what that task must be like. | ||
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| All right. | ||
| Manifest of Destiny says, Tim, if you call bourbon whiskey one more time, I'm going to declare a Kentucky fatwa on you. | ||
| All right. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Point taken. | ||
| Point taken. | ||
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All right. | |
| We got, we got way too many super chats today, but I really appreciate it guys. | ||
| Aaron Bisogno says, Tim, huge fan and paid member. | ||
| Thanks for inspiring me. | ||
| I'm currently running for city council in Tulsa, Oklahoma. | ||
| I've been going door-to-door in my Don't Snake Me Bro t-shirt and it's working! | ||
| Nice. | ||
| That's right, man. | ||
| The machine is terrified that the culture is shifting to such a degree. | ||
| You know what? | ||
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You know what? | |
| I noticed something today. | ||
| I hate Netflix. | ||
| I just finished watching Lock and Key. | ||
| Have you guys heard of that show? | ||
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No. | |
| Three seasons, and they've cancelled it. | ||
| And that's it for me. | ||
| I am done with Netflix. | ||
| I liked that show. | ||
| The third season sucked. | ||
| And I was like, that's a bummer. | ||
| They cancelled the show. | ||
| They run all of these shows for two seasons and then cancel them outright. | ||
| I wonder why that is. | ||
| They're also charging now like 20 bucks a month or something. | ||
| They're putting commercials in. | ||
| Don't they want to crack down on password sharing too? | ||
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Yep, yep. | |
| It's like their famous threat. | ||
| A big part of it is probably because the actors' contracts are up and they're gonna have to get and renegotiate 10x if they want to keep them on. | ||
| My point is, I wonder just nobody's watching their shows anymore. | ||
| Like the culture is decaying. | ||
| But then I look at the Daily Wire just hiring a Disney executive to be their CMO. | ||
| I think chief CMO. | ||
| And like their influence is taking over. | ||
| I wonder if the old guard is already doomed and we're just watching them slowly now slump off and fade into the distance. | ||
| And I was realizing as I'm watching Netflix and I'm like, all of these shows were cancelled. | ||
| Like, why are you showing me shows with no resolution? | ||
| I'm not gonna watch 10 episodes of a show and then be like, but they cancelled it too bad. | ||
| That's lame. | ||
| And that's what Netflix is right now. | ||
| So, I'm looking at what's going on and I'm just like, yo, the culture war? | ||
| We are winning it. | ||
| And they're panicking over it. | ||
| They're going after Trump. | ||
| They're going after Jones. | ||
| They're freaking out. | ||
| I think there may be dark days ahead for sure, but... It's a transition to a new world order, man. | ||
| And we're involved. | ||
| We're transitioning it as we speak. | ||
| It's a great debate. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Steve Graves Radio says, I believe a civil war is avoidable if enough regular people speak up and express their honest opinion. | ||
| That is why I took your advice and created a YouTube channel called Steve Graves Radio. | ||
| Very grateful to any feedback and subscriptions. | ||
| Glad to hear it, man. | ||
| Yeah, that's the unfortunate thing. | ||
| We talk about it quite a bit. | ||
| People who are afraid to share their views because the machine will punish them. | ||
| It's a paradox. | ||
| The only reason the machine will come after you for speaking up for your opinion is because no one does. | ||
| If literally right now every single Trump supporter just came out and put a Trump flag on their lawn, The machine would invert. | ||
| All of a sudden all the Democrats would be like, I was always a Trump supporter! | ||
| Because they see the widespread popularity in their city. | ||
| I don't know if signage is the way to go, that's kind of a virtue signal thing, but making a fucking channel and speaking your mind is number one. | ||
| See, I think you should also just have these conversations honestly with people around you. | ||
| I think so often people avoid talking about, not even politics, just like things you believe in, your values with your friends and neighbors because you're afraid of seeming different or isolating them or maybe making them feel judged, which is obviously a sin. | ||
| You know, to a certain extent you just need to both live your values and be open about your values so people who may not share them can talk to you about them in a reasonable way. | ||
| I think it's great if you want a big online platform to reach other people, but really it should start at the building block, which is like on your street in your community. | ||
| I guess we were both right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm open to signs. | ||
| I'm not saying don't do it, but I think that's also a way for the deep state to target people. | ||
| If they go around, they just find out who it is. | ||
| I'm not like, you don't have to put a sign. | ||
| But I do think that like, if you don't feel like you can tell the people you think are your closest friends, who you voted for and discuss openly, like when you have differences of opinion, then you are probably not being honest with the people around you. | ||
| You're never going to be able to have authentic progress without that. | ||
| Dude, the internet video changes stuff so rapidly. | ||
| It happens so fast when a lot of people start doing it, and community comes out of it. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| It's the best part of this whole thing is like even these long form discussions from four different people from different walks of life. | ||
| Like people are more interested in that because it feels more real because it is real. | ||
| Versus, you know, talking heads telling talking points. | ||
| Like who wants to see that anymore? | ||
| The future of I think media across the board is what this is and different forms of it. | ||
| Which I love. | ||
| That's what I digest. | ||
| I don't subscribe anymore to institutions, especially woke ones, that have an agenda. | ||
| I'm more interested in free thought and ideas and then collecting those people, like even the Daily Wire, because they have diversity, and then collecting all that and then absorbing it. | ||
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All right. | |
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| We're going to have the Uncensored After Show coming up at about 11 p.m., plus all of our other shows. | ||
| You can follow the show at TimCast IRL. | ||
| You can follow me at TimCast. | ||
| Mike, do you want to shout anything out? | ||
| Yeah, just feelcraftsurvival.com, americantendency.com. | ||
| All of our content we do for free. | ||
| The content release, the podcast, all the things that we do is to get you informed and educate you to provide you value. | ||
| If you see value, then dig deeper in the weeds. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow. | ||
| I'm a writer for timcast.com. | ||
| I recommend you check it out every day for your news updates. | ||
| You can follow me on Instagram at hannahclaire.b. | ||
| Thanks so much. | ||
| You guys follow me. | ||
| Go through to me from iancrossland.net if you want to follow me on social media. | ||
| Fantastic, Mike. | ||
| It was really great to see you, man. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| If people want to follow you, I know they can follow you personally on Twitter, Mike Glover. | ||
| Mikeaglover1 and then Mike.a.glover on Instagram. | ||
| Great stuff. | ||
| See you later. | ||
| Thank you guys all so much for tuning in. | ||
| Thank you, Mike, very much for coming this evening. | ||
| You guys can follow me on Twitter and Minds.com at sarahpatchlitz, as well as sarahpatchlitz.me. | ||
| We will see all of you at timcast.com. | ||
| Thanks for hanging out. |
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