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Timcast IRL - Liz Cheney Thinking About Presidential Run After BLOWOUT w/Greg Price & Libby Emmons
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tim pool
you so yesterday was really awesome because we did this show
and we didn't know what's gonna happen with Liz Cheney and then right around
like 925 or whatever Jack is like it's in there calling it
Liz Cheney lost, and I was like, what?
It's like 4% reporting, how is that possible?
And, uh, yeah, not only did she lose, she lost by 38 points.
Wow, what was she thinking?
Well, good news for that 28% of Wyoming that really likes Liz Cheney.
She's thinking about running for president, and she has already launched the great task.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, well, good luck.
I guess she's gonna start making money off Democrats.
People are pointing out that it's basically the Lincoln Project, so we'll talk about that.
I think perhaps the big news today was that China is sending, has deployed its troops to Russia for joint military drills with Belarus and India and Tajikistan and other countries.
And they say it's nothing to do with what's going on in this, you know, regional, international conflict, technically, because you got China doing military drills with Russia.
Obviously, Ukraine and Taiwan play a huge role in this.
A second U.S.
delegation went to Taiwan.
China has ramped up its drills, been firing missiles over the country, which is an act of hostility because they're basically blockading the island.
Yeah, you know, we decided to leave Liz Cheney because it's more fun and I don't know.
I kind of feel like the world's ending and World War III and all that, so we'll talk about it.
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Joining us to talk about the failures that are Liz, that is Liz Cheney, is Greg Price.
greg price
Great to be back.
What a great day this is for our country.
One of the worst neocon warmongers in the history of DC has been defeated.
And not just her, but her entire family.
The dynasty of the Cheneys that have spent years just, you know, sending people to die in pointless wars overseas.
What a great day this is.
And so I just want to propose a toast.
To the end of the Bush dynasty, the end of the Clinton dynasty, and now the end of the Cheney dynasty.
Donald Trump did all that, and God bless him for it.
tim pool
And we can say August 16th is the end of Dynasty Day, and celebrate the end of dynasty.
We also got Libby, she's hanging out.
libby emmons
Hey, what's going on, everybody?
Glad to be here.
Libby Emmons, Editor-in-Chief of the Postmillennial.
Happy to hang out.
ian crossland
Yeah, happy to have you, Libby.
libby emmons
Glad to be around.
ian crossland
Ian Crossland up in here.
Also happy to be here.
Greg, good to see you again, man.
greg price
It's great to be back.
It's been a minute.
ian crossland
It's wild that you referred to Liz Cheney as a neocon.
I love that.
greg price
She is.
This is a huge win.
We are purging our government and the Republican Party of neocons, rhinos, and globalists.
We are replacing them with people who are America first and will actually fight for the people who elected them.
And this is a huge, huge W on that.
And so I will celebrate it very much.
ian crossland
Nice shirt, dude.
greg price
Thank you.
lydia smith
And I am also here in the corner.
Thank you for coming back, Libby.
Thank you for coming back, Greg.
I'm excited to talk about this tonight.
It's good news.
tim pool
Alright, so for that 28% of people in Wyoming who wanted Liz Cheney to win, I got good news for you!
Cheney is pondering a 2024 bid!
This is amazing!
It's been like, it was not even a day when she was comparing herself to Abraham Lincoln and basically announced she was running for president.
I couldn't believe it.
ian crossland
It was 20 minutes.
tim pool
It was 20 minutes.
20 minutes.
She was like, the first thing she says, Abraham Lincoln lost many battles before going on to win the most important.
He's like lost election in the Senate and Congress before going on to win the most important.
It's like, bro, are you calling yourself like, are you comparing yourself to Abraham Lincoln and saying you're going to run for president?
libby emmons
There's going to have to be a book deal.
There's going to have to be some, you know, TV spots and special interviews and things like that.
tim pool
Tucker nailed it, because he was like, she's gonna start a foundation and write a book called, like, Democracy or something.
greg price
And I will paraphrase Lincoln a little bit here and say that by Liz Cheney losing by 40 points, our nation has gained a new birth of freedom away from neocon warmongers.
tim pool
40 points, man, wow.
greg price
But it just goes to show, I think, that the point to be made here is that people always like to say what she did was brave when she came out and opposed Trump.
That that was somehow a brave thing to do.
The least brave thing any human being in Washington, D.C.
unidentified
can do... It's what everyone was doing.
greg price
Yeah, the least brave thing any human being in Washington, D.C.
can do is claim to be a Republican and come out against Trump.
You will get showered with praise from the media.
You will get, you know, huge money.
If you're like Elissa Farah, you'll get your own show.
You'll be picked for The View.
It's the easiest thing to do ever.
And so she's not brave for what she's doing.
She's really bitter that Donald Trump turned the GOP base against her family dynasty.
And she was raised with delusions of grandeur that she'd one day be president.
And that's not possible anymore.
She's bitter about it.
tim pool
She's like Hillary Clinton in that respect.
But I think a lot of it is that Trump insulted her dad.
greg price
That's, yeah, I mean, Trump was one of the, like the first major Republican candidate for president who came out, called out Bush and Cheney for the Iraq war.
tim pool
That was amazing.
greg price
That was the only, that's the only reason Liz Cheney hates him.
It has nothing to do with January 6th.
It was a convenient way for her to become a martyr for her father's political legacy.
What it all has to do is that Trump basically destroyed her family dynasty and she'll never be president because of it.
tim pool
So we talked about how, you know what, I think four, is it four of the 10 who voted for impeachment, Republicans who voted for impeachment, retired?
greg price
Yep.
tim pool
Maybe more.
greg price
Yeah, it's a bunch of them.
I think there's more.
unidentified
There's eight?
greg price
There's only two.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
Eight are out.
Two won, but I think, yeah, it might be more than that because I think two lost.
Now, how many lost?
greg price
So, I'm trying to think.
Jamie Herrera Butler just lost to Joe Kent, so that's one.
unidentified
Yes.
KINZINGER DIDN'T QUIT.
greg price
It's a mixture of retirement.
Yeah, no, Kinsinger didn't quit.
tim pool
He got gerrymandered.
greg price
He got gerrymandered.
He did everything the Democrats wanted him to do, and they thanked him by gerrymandering him.
unidentified
That is awesome.
greg price
Imagine being as cocked as Adam Kinsinger is.
tim pool
What a loser.
That guy is like such spineless establishment trash defending Ray Epps.
It's like, are you joking, dude?
You could come up with a better excuse.
Well, he didn't actually go in the building.
unidentified
Shut up.
tim pool
You're better off saying nothing.
That guy has no spine.
And so it's all so much more sweet knowing that they basically just booted him out.
libby emmons
So if the January 6th committee continues into the next Congress, they're not going to have any Republicans on the committee at all.
greg price
It's not going to continue when Republicans win the House, because they now have the power to make committees and suspend committees.
libby emmons
So they would be able to just turn it off.
tim pool
I don't trust the Republicans, but I do think we're getting a lot of those MAGA Republicans in, so maybe we'll see something.
greg price
We are.
We've picked up a lot of W's in these primaries.
I say to people all the time, primaries at this point are more important than general elections.
Because you can elect a Republican, but if it's somebody who's going to be a squish and not represent you the way you should be, what's the point?
But we've had a lot of wins in this primary.
A lot of great people have won who will actually fight for the people who elected them.
tim pool
Jack Bezovic nailed it the other day when he said that the January 6 hearings are like a true crime show for all the wine moms, you know, to watch, and they're getting ready for the next season or whatever.
And he's right.
I mean, they put it on primetime TV.
It is probably that demographic who's listening to this going like, oh, wow.
And you the funny thing is as much as they claim to hate Donald Trump a lot of these people are the ones who
probably Writing them love letters once he goes to prison
Assuming like these are the kind of people that write love letters to serial killers like right so evil, but I love
greg price
you so much Oh, they secretly love Donald Trump because Donald Trump is
what gives them ratings Donald Trump is what gives them page views
tim pool
I mean the ladies I'm saying like there are women who write love letters to
serial killers and like how they Want to be with them and it's like that dude like straight
up killed a bunch of people But they love it so like I'm saying these these these true
crime women that are watching January 6 are You know actually you don't let me tell you this
There's a viral video of someone asking three women, what is a woman?
Or like, I'm sorry, it's a young woman asking three other women, and someone had a good point about it, I'm not sure who it was, it might have been Matt Walsh, and he said, They all know exactly what a woman is, but they're trying to reconcile what they know it is with what they're supposed to say.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And so that's basically the point I'm getting at.
People will say they hate Trump, say it's all so evil, but they're so excited watching this, hearing about this dangerous, large Donald Trump, they're probably getting all lusty.
greg price
But how do you even, like, enjoy that?
Like, I watched it for... I watched the first one for about 10 minutes, and I felt like I was at a party, and some guy I hate came up to me and started talking to me about his 401k in excruciating detail.
That's what it felt... I was like, who can sit through this?
It's just... You're gonna listen to Adam Kinzinger and Benny Thompson just drone on for hours on end?
tim pool
But they're sitting there eating popcorn.
They're like, Oh, what's going to happen next?
It's it's it's, you know, they made that podcast Muller She Wrote.
I think that's what it was called.
Oh, during the Russiagate.
Muller She Wrote.
And it's it's just that it's it's like true crime conspiracy nonsense for suburban wine moms.
greg price
I guess that's Liz Cheney's constituency if she ever runs for president.
tim pool
I mean, probably.
greg price
She gave them that season, they loved it.
What's hilarious about that to me is the fact that the media and the Democrats' newfound fondness for the Cheneys.
It's hilarious.
And it goes to show, there is a Uniparty in DC, and they all secretly want the same things, and that's why they love Liz Cheney so much.
It's not because she spoke out against Trump, it's because they all agree at the end of the day.
libby emmons
Well, it's not just that they all agree.
They want to maintain their power structure, and they don't want anybody to come in who's going to disrupt that.
greg price
That's true.
libby emmons
So that's why they stick together.
greg price
But she's just not a good person either.
One of my favorite stories ever in the history of politics is in 2014, she tried to primary Mike Enzi, senator from Wyoming.
Keep in mind, Liz Cheney, in her formative years, only lived in Wyoming for two years.
She grew up in suburban Virginia.
She went to McLean High School.
This is like 10 minutes from where I live, which is hilarious.
And she's running for Senate in Wyoming, and when she announced, it was a Facebook post that was geotagged to McLean, Virginia.
And then in this race, she came out and publicly denounced her sister, because her sister is a lesbian, and she came out and publicly denounced her.
unidentified
That was recent.
tim pool
This was 2014.
greg price
She denounced her sister for being gay?
So she came out against gay marriage and she has a lesbian, but yeah, she did that.
And no matter what your views on gay marriage are, if you're somebody who would come out and denounce your own family in order to win a political, in order to win a race, like that is just, that's literally like, that's not just not somebody who's a good person.
Like, somehow she found her way as chair of the Republican conference when she made it to the house.
tim pool
Take a look at this.
This is Liz Cheney.
Donate to the great task.
ian crossland
Is that a picture of Abe Lincoln?
tim pool
It's a picture of Abe Lincoln.
What's their obsession with Abe?
I understand it's the party of Lincoln and all that, but like the Lincoln Project?
They're like, Abraham Lincoln!
Donald Trump!
unidentified
What?
ian crossland
It's all this, it's the same stuff as like remaking Game of Thrones and remaking the Lord of the Rings and they're remaking Abe Lincoln.
tim pool
Cultural stagnation.
libby emmons
They're just trying to stick with a brand that they think works.
greg price
Well like her whole, her whole re-election, like she never had a shot of winning, like not in a million years.
Like this whole thing was just a giant grift to raise money for an eventual presidential campaign that will also be a giant grift and that's, now she's, obviously she's doing that.
tim pool
That's it right there, because I was saying the other day, like, why wouldn't she just retire and try and save as much face as possible like all these other guys?
And now I realize, like, she probably spent very little.
She probably raised as much as she could.
She went around saying, Democrats, you've got to support me.
We've got to stop Trump collecting all this money.
And then she probably didn't spend it.
She's probably just like, I don't need to use it.
I'm going to lose anyway, but I can keep it for something else.
greg price
Which is hilarious, because she raised Big money.
And like 90% of it came from outside Wyoming, which is hilarious.
tim pool
I just absolutely love the Democrat Twitter personalities who are like, the Republican Party died today.
And it's like, dude, you don't like her.
libby emmons
And you're not part of it anyway.
You have no idea.
tim pool
We expect that they wanted the party to survive and do well?
No, you hate Republicans.
You rag on them all day, every day.
You're only supporting her because she hates Trump.
It's like Kinzinger.
He drops to his knees for the Democrats and then they're like, excellent.
unidentified
And then they just kick him in the bucket.
tim pool
It's actually like a movie villain.
You know how the villains always just kill their own henchmen?
libby emmons
Yes.
greg price
And there's a lesson to be had here if you're a Republican.
Like I just thought of another impeachment Republican that just got primaried, Peter Meyer from Michigan, who just lost to John Gibbs.
Peter Meyer in his primary, he, you know, he voted to impeach Trump.
He voted for gun control.
He voted for Ukraine aid.
He voted for all of these things that are incredibly unpopular with the Republican base.
And what did the Democrats do to thank him?
They spent thousands of dollars boosting his opponent in his own primary.
tim pool
and he ended up losing it and it just goes to like if you are really going if you you will never appease these people you know you will never ever appease these it's like it does not matter you know who made the right choice jeff van drew oh that's true yeah when the impeachment stuff was going on he was like i'm not doing this and then he switched and then he won he won his primary landslide it was like 80 80 points or whatever he's he's a he was a former democrat he's a moderate guy in south jersey Backed Trump, and ended up winning the primary in a landslide.
greg price
Amazing.
libby emmons
I remember my mom was pissed about that.
She lives in Jersey.
tim pool
What, she doesn't like Jeff Van Drew?
libby emmons
Yeah, she didn't like that whole thing.
tim pool
That makes no sense.
You see, this is the problem with American politics.
And I'm not trying to be mean to your mom, but if you would vote for a Democrat, and then one thing changes, I don't think we should impeach Trump, so I'm off the Democrat party.
And you're like, well now I don't like him.
unidentified
Huh?
tim pool
Is that the only thing you like him for?
You don't like his policies?
libby emmons
That's how it all works.
I mean, the Democratic Party at this point is the party of hating Trump.
They don't have anything else.
They don't have any policies that are effective that anybody likes.
Look at this whole fake Inflation Reduction Act.
It was full of things that aren't going to help anybody.
All they do is they boost Chinese industry in, you know, solar.
tim pool
Well, somebody's gotta do that.
libby emmons
Well, someone's got it.
It may as well be us.
It may as well be our tax dollars.
The big way that they're going to pay for this bill and reduce the deficit, their whole plan is to collect taxes from us and to audit us, right?
tim pool
Not audits.
libby emmons
They talked about audits.
They're talking about audits.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no.
Hold on.
Audits will happen.
Middle and lower income people will be audited.
But it's not the main issue.
libby emmons
They're also raising our taxes.
tim pool
They're probably not doing that.
And this is the game they're playing.
Biden comes out and he says, we are not raising taxes on anybody who makes less than $400,000.
And we're not going to be increasing audits on these people.
That's the trick.
What's really gonna happen?
Anybody who runs a business knows this.
June, you get a letter in the mail from the IRS and it says you owe us an additional $1,593.
Send your check here.
There's no audit.
There's no dispute.
An audit implies they want to be fair with you and make sure they're getting the numbers right.
unidentified
They don't need to.
libby emmons
Oh, this is the thing.
Oh, I see.
tim pool
They just send you the bill.
libby emmons
Because that's what they do to me every year.
My accountant does the thing.
He says, you're going to get this much money back.
And then when I get the money back, I get way less.
And the government says we actually took a whole bunch more.
tim pool
Yep.
And I know so many of you listening, this has happened to you.
unidentified
It happens to me every year.
libby emmons
The federal government and New York State and the city.
tim pool
And this is where I see all the conservatives making a big mistake when they're saying things like, oh, they're gonna, they're, they're lying.
They're going to audit you.
It's like, well, you know, look, maybe there probably will be more audits.
Washington Post even said it's going to be middle income people.
There's more money to be gained out of going after lower income people than going after rich people.
libby emmons
Yeah, because lower income people aren't going to do anything.
They're just going to be like, oh, they took a bunch of my money.
I still have to get little Johnny off to school.
tim pool
But the audit implies the IRS is being fair with you.
libby emmons
Interesting.
tim pool
To assume that you're going to get audited is to assume the IRS is like, we'd like more money from you, but we're going to give you a chance to prove you don't owe it.
libby emmons
So you're saying it's just another, like everything additionally is another rhetorical trick in this bill?
Of course, it's a semantic trick.
Like the climate thing.
The climate thing in the bill is if you can afford to redo your house, you can get some credits by putting solar on it.
That's if you have a house and can afford to redo it.
greg price
Well, the last few months of this Congress has taught me a valuable lesson about the power you have when you have a majority, is you can essentially just troll the ever-living crap out of the opposition into voting against something that should be considered highly popular, but you give it a popular title, but do things in the bill that don't actually do what that title implies, and there have been so many instances- They do that all the time!
Yeah, but there have been so many instances of, like, just in the last, like, couple months, we had the Inflation Reduction Act, which is not going to reduce inflation in any way.
They had the Putting Baby Formula on the Shelves Act, or some crap like that, which the only thing that Bill did was give the FDA more salaries and expenditures, the FDA, which caused the baby formula shortage in the first place.
But they were able to claim that Republicans voted against baby formula.
They've done, like, so many things like this.
libby emmons
The American Rescue Plan or whatever?
greg price
Are you feeling rescued right now?
tim pool
It's getting worse.
You know, I just read, I read that farmers are having to like, like destroy fields because the droughts are so bad.
The plants aren't growing anymore and they can't, they can't make it work.
libby emmons
Meanwhile, the Department of Agriculture decided to give out grants and loans based on the race of farmers.
tim pool
Yeah.
libby emmons
And this, nobody talked about this.
This was like over a year ago and then courts struck it down finally and was like, Oh, actually, you know what?
That's discriminatory.
We have this crazy thing called the Civil Rights Act.
You can't really do that.
ian crossland
What was the situation they were doing with farmers?
libby emmons
So the Department of Agriculture during COVID decided to give out a bunch of grants and loans to farmers, right, to help farmers out.
But the way that they decided to do it was to prioritize non-white farmers.
And their reasoning was that this would be a correction for past discrimination done by the Department of Agriculture.
And eventually, you know, a bunch of farmers brought suit and said, that's discrimination.
And a court finally said, you know what, you can't discriminate in the present to try and correct discrimination in the past.
greg price
But they're doing this all over the country too, not just with farmers.
Like there was just a story that I saw the other day out of Minneapolis, which, you know, Minneapolis has just become a ridiculous place, but the Minneapolis school board Or the school district.
They got a new contract with their union that said, in the event that the school needs to be downsized, white teachers get fired before minority teachers.
libby emmons
Regardless of seniority.
greg price
That is literally illegal.
libby emmons
And you know what?
There was a lot of backlash because, of course, that's remarkably discriminatory and racist.
And the school district was like, we're going to do it anyway.
We think it's correct.
And they had the same argument, which is that it corrects for past discrimination.
But we already have this precedent.
You can't discriminate in the present to correct discrimination in the past.
tim pool
Well, they're doing it.
libby emmons
They're doing it anyway.
tim pool
So this is the issue.
Cultural enforcement is always way more powerful.
ian crossland
There are some instances where you could discriminate in the present, like say there were two warring parties and one warring party killed all the fathers and then took the children as slaves and now they own all the land.
And you're like, well, the children now of the dead fathers are like, we want our land back.
They're like, sorry, You can't discriminate against the conquerors in the present because of whatever.
You're like, yo, actually, we can.
You just killed my dad.
Like, I can definitely discriminate against the guy that murdered my father.
tim pool
You're talking about an individual.
ian crossland
There are situations where you can discriminate in the present to make equality of opportunity, but I don't think this is one of them.
tim pool
Right, right.
So discrimination in the most literal sense is not what we're actually talking about.
Discriminate means like when you choose to go down a road that looks better.
We're not talking about that.
If you're talking about a group of people that committed an active crime in real time, and then we're like, hey, we're gonna stop that and bring about justice.
Yeah, we have a civil court for that.
ian crossland
Yeah, but it's like criminal and civil.
It happened like 60 years ago, and now they're all kind of established, all the conquerors now own the land.
libby emmons
You're talking about reparations.
ian crossland
Talking about colonialism and reparations.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's sort of a different situation.
I don't think that's what the Department of Agriculture was trying to do because they weren't talking about colonialism.
They were talking about the Department of Agriculture having previously perhaps discriminated against or in favor of white farmers.
greg price
There's also going to the Supreme Court in the next term is going to be a case involving Harvard discriminating against white and Asian students.
unidentified
There's a lawsuit over that that's going to be... And you know what's hilarious about that is...
greg price
The Biden Justice Department, the Biden administration, who makes a whole show, they brought BTS to the White House to talk about how we have to stop Asian hate.
They are literally defending Harvard in this case.
The DOJ filed an amicus brief defending Harvard's discriminatory admissions practices against Asians.
libby emmons
Harvard actually keeps saying that they should discriminate against Asian students.
And they've also said in talking about why it's important for them to discriminate, they said, if we're not allowed to discriminate, then how will we be able to judge entrance essays that talk about people's, you know, difficulties being racially whatever?
That's their argument.
tim pool
That's not an argument.
libby emmons
It's not a good argument.
No, it's total, total trash.
greg price
That's the thing.
tim pool
They're just racists.
greg price
Well, that's the thing about like this.
libby emmons
Well, Harvard was racist.
Like they owned slaves.
unidentified
Yeah.
greg price
That was the thing though, about like when stop Asian hate became like a huge hashtag, like as if out of nowhere racism was happening against Asians.
And it's like the biggest source of racism happening against Asian Americans is happening on the admissions boards of Ivy league colleges.
libby emmons
Well, and high schools.
greg price
Well, literally in all schools across the country, but like the focus was as if there's like white supremacists out there who are all of a sudden discriminating.
tim pool
There is a disproportionately large amount of Asians at these schools and they can't have that.
They don't like the fact that there's a community that, for some reason or another, prides themselves on academia or something like that.
And so, the way I describe it to people is, if you're in favor of this, then here's what I want you to do.
I want you to go to some inner-city kid who's Asian, and I want you to be the one to explain to him why he's not allowed to go to an Ivy League school because he looks too much like those other people.
libby emmons
Well, the thing that it shows, too, is that Democrats don't think that minorities are Americans.
They think that they are separate and need to be treated some separate and different way.
So they're like actually racist.
They have this bigotry of low expectations.
It's the whole thing.
Yeah.
So they don't think Asian kids should get the same opportunity as Americans.
They don't think that black kids should be held to the same standards as Americans.
And they're the ones who are differentiating and deciding that the people who are getting everything are the white people and that everybody else needs to be treated some different and special way.
And it's like- Meanwhile, like anyone who thinks reasonably realizes that all these kids are obviously Americans and deserving of the same opportunity to excel on their own merits.
ian crossland
I think some of them aren't- isn't that the thing is that some are kids that are foreign coming to Harvard?
libby emmons
Yeah, but once you're- I don't think that's it.
I think it's mostly American, Asian American kids.
greg price
This also like hurts like this this type of mindset also hurts them like I remember there were these huge stories that have gone around in the last year about how like inner city schools in Baltimore and San Francisco and in all these other places a lot of the kids like couldn't read past like a fourth or fifth grade level yet they were passing all of their classes.
Like they're, they're deliberately inflating their GPAs in a, and that's like hurting them.
Like, how does that help somebody when you give, when you, when you deliberately inflate their GPA, because they're a certain race, even though they can't read past like a level that they should be able to.
libby emmons
Well, now that they have at Lowell High School in San Francisco, now that they have made it more of a lottery system so that you can get in regardless of what your grades are, the grades across the board have gone down.
Like the school is not serving students as well academically as it had been.
tim pool
They're also now rolling out in a lot of schools this equity, you know, equity diversity grading system, which takes race into account in how grades are calculated.
libby emmons
Which is ridiculous.
greg price
Yeah, it's crazy.
And that's why, this is actually another- Cultural enforcement.
I work with a PAC, part of my, I didn't really introduce what I do at the beginning of the, at the top of the show I did my toast to Liz Cheney being defeated.
But what I, I work for a company called X Strategies and we work with a lot of conservative organizations doing consulting and digital work.
And one of the people we work with is a school board PAC who are, they're called the 1776 Project PAC.
shout out to my friend Ryan Gerdusky.
And they are a PAC that is seeking to replace school board members
with people who won't do any of this crap.
They've done a very good job of it.
And it's important that if you want to get this out of your schools to vote in school board elections.
Cause a lot of the ways that these woke school board members get in, that leads to all of these policies
is the fact that very, very few people know when school board elections are happening at all.
And so next week in Florida, there's a primary election next Tuesday.
And the governor and the senators race is obviously DeSantis and Marco Rubio are going to win their primaries by a mile.
But every county in Florida has a school board election on the ballot.
And so the fact that these big races that get all of the national attention may lead to some Republicans staying home.
You can't stay home because your school board is on the ballot.
And if a candidate gets over 50 percent in these elections, they automatically win.
unidentified
Wow.
greg price
And so Republicans, if you are watching and you are a parent in Florida, you need to vote in your school board election next Tuesday.
Because that is how, because like a lot, a lot of these stories you're seeing about woke school boards are happening in insanely red areas.
And it's literally, and the reason they get in is because only the teacher, the people, only the teachers unions know that these school board elections are happening and they get their people to vote and all of the, everyone there stays home.
libby emmons
Well, it's been so interesting, too, to see DeSantis going out and endorsing candidates for the school board.
I've never seen anyone endorse candidates for school board before, and now I get, like, press releases about, like, who DeSantis is endorsing for school boards in Florida.
It's time to start paying attention.
Yeah.
tim pool
These are important elections.
greg price
Yeah, these local elections impact your life a lot more than these, like, national elections do.
A school board election has a direct impact on you in a way that a congressional election does not.
Now, it's important to vote in both, obviously.
but there is a distinction to be made.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
Let's jump to this very important story about a harassment campaign by conservatives against
a poor children's hospital in Boston. WBUR says Boston Children's Hospital deluged in harassment
campaign.
Heavens!
What happened?
Boston Children's Hospital has become the target of a harassment campaign based on inaccurate information about its transgender surgery program.
Hospital staff say the campaign includes aggressive calls, emails, and death threats from some providers.
It goes without saying, you shouldn't be sending death threats.
Nobody should.
Um, however, I often find that when it comes to stories like this, concerned phone calls get called harassment.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's correct.
tim pool
So like if you call and you're like, I have some concerns about what you're doing and they're like, oh, I'm being harassed.
Quote, we are deeply concerned by these attacks on our clinicians and staff, fueled by misinformation and a lack of understanding and respect for our transgender community, the hospital said in a statement.
We are working with law enforcement to protect our clinicians, staff, patients, families, and the broader Boston Children's community.
So this all started when, who was it?
Was it Billboard Chris?
libby emmons
Billboard Chris posted a video from Boston Children's Hospital.
unidentified
And he also has evidence that they- Talking about hysterectomies.
tim pool
Yeah, I mean- Just in general.
greg price
He also has evidence that they may be lying about the amount of threats that they have, because he posted a tweet that I just pulled up here, and it says that he has a source within Boston Children's Hospital, where he got all this stuff from, and he said that most of the people there don't even know what is happening.
Of course.
libby emmons
And also that there have not been ramped up security efforts at the hospital at all.
unidentified
We've got to slow down.
tim pool
We've got to slow down to explain what happened.
So this is a video comes up showing Boston Children's Hospital.
It's a promotional video explaining hysterectomies and bilateral ooverectomies.
libby emmons
They actually had several videos up on their site.
They're gone now.
With well-spoken doctors talking about how important and interesting these surgeries are.
Smiling, cute music in the background.
tim pool
Gender-affirming.
libby emmons
Gender-affirming is what they call it.
Yeah, lady doctors.
One doctor was talking about the process of a hysterectomy and saying that it's the same for young adults and for gender-affirming treatment as it would be for anybody else and talks about the full and complete removal of a woman's reproductive system.
tim pool
No, no, the bilateral ooverectomy is differentiated.
libby emmons
Well, she talks about the whole thing.
Is that what it's called?
The overectomy?
She says that they remove the uterus, the fallopian tubes, and they could also remove the ovaries and the cervix.
So that's everything.
That's taking it all out at once.
You have another doctor talking about how one way that you can tell your pre-verbal child is trans is if they play with toys that are stereotypically considered to be toys of the opposite sex.
lydia smith
Pre-verbal.
tim pool
How do they know that?
Like, how does the child know that society has deemed this particular toy of a human to be a male or female toy?
Like, a girl playing with a doll versus a boy playing with an action figure?
They're just playing with people!
libby emmons
They're just playing with people.
That same doctor discusses in this very short little clip, a couple of minutes long, About how if your child doesn't want to get a haircut, maybe they are trans.
If your child doesn't want to sit to pee or does want to sit to pee, then perhaps your child, your pre-verbal child, is trans.
Any mom will tell you... I mean, my son still hates getting a haircut.
You know, he's for sure a boy.
Like, you guys have all met him.
Like, he's clearly...
So yeah, so that's insane.
You also have a doctor talking about phalloplasties and how a phalloplasty is done and that same doctor, and that's one that Chris posted today, that same doctor, because actually we were all talking about this behind the scenes and we saw them start to take this stuff down and we were all, me and Christina Buttons who writes for the Post Millennial, we were all like record it, record it, screen record What's happening now is you had Boston Children's Hospital talking about the gender-affirming programs they do.
tim pool
The media comes out all of a sudden saying it's not true, they're lies.
You have to be at least 18.
But they ignore the finer details.
And so what ends up happening now is you have all of these outlets trying to claim they don't actually provide gender-affirming surgeries.
Interestingly, there's one particular trans person who quoted Vice.
Vice ran the story saying the far right's targeting the hospital.
Saying that the hospital says you have to be at least 18 and this trans person says that's not true.
libby emmons
Yes.
tim pool
Came out and said no.
It is common to give 16 year olds gender affirming surgery and then they mention that they got it and that they need to normalize it or whatever because that's how you get people treated.
libby emmons
Well I mean I can break this down for you a little bit too.
I was working on this story last week with Christina Buttons who wrote it and did an amazing deep dive into that for Post Millennial.
And if you look at their documentation prior to when they changed it on the site, their forms for how to get – how to go about getting approved for vaginoplasties, chest reconstruction, and what's the other one?
Phalloplasties, right?
They have it all written down.
So it says on their forms.
To get a phalloplasty, you need to be between 18 and 35.
To get a vaginoplasty, you need to be between—and you could look at it.
It's in our story.
We have the screenshots.
To get a vaginoplasty, you need to be between 17 and 35.
tim pool
That would be the removal of male sexual reproductive organs.
libby emmons
Right, and the reshaping of it into something that appears like that of the opposite sex.
tim pool
So a 17-year-old being totally sterilized.
libby emmons
Yes, and it also says that 15-year-olds, you have to be 15 in order to get a chest reconstruction or a double mastectomy of healthy breasts.
And what's particularly interesting is that they change the language afterwards.
The videos say exactly what they do.
They also follow these guidelines from WPATH, WPATH, that say – and they say that they follow these guidelines, as do most gender-y, clinic-y places.
They follow these guidelines that also say that if parents approve these procedures, they can be done at younger ages.
The doctor who talks about the vaginoplasty says that in some cases, it can be done younger as well.
So yeah, they're making this up.
tim pool
So I have here from NIH.gov, this is a report, a single center case series of gender-affirming surgeries and the evolution of specialty anesthesia team.
This is the Journal of Clinical Medicine, MDPI, blah blah blah.
In there, on the second page, it says, In materials and methods, Boston Children's Hospital is a pediatric academic hospital in the United States providing gender-affirming surgery to patients aged 15 years to 35 years of age.
There it is.
And they say, including gender-affirming primary and multi-specialty care involving inpatient and outpatient care, and they go on to mention a bunch of other things.
But yeah.
Uh, 15 year olds.
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
Getting sex change surgeries.
libby emmons
But they also say, additionally, and on the Boston Children's Hospital website, they have these glowing profiles, they're promo profiles, right, of teens who have gone through their program.
One of the teens, their whole family moved from Texas in order to access these services and is on puberty blockers and estrogen and frequently has to go into the hospital to get bone scans and things like that because these are remarkably dangerous drugs to take.
Additionally, that child's parent is talking to the hospital about how to make sure to harvest the reproductive material for this child who will be fully sterilized if they go through this procedure so that they can have like their sperm when they are grown up.
They have a, that person is 13.
They also have a 7th grader who is on puberty blockers and is really excited about being non-binary.
tim pool
I want to point out here from the conversation, the Tavistock Clinic was shut down in the UK after review found that they were actually causing serious harm to children.
One of the cases was a young female who was on puberty blockers and developed advanced osteoporosis where her bones became extremely brittle and were cracking.
And that's the danger of these drugs.
And the reason I say that is because the NHS shut down the program.
Now we can look at these other European countries that are held up as the pinnacle of healthcare by the left.
They talk about Scandinavia.
They're ending it all.
They're saying it's bad, it's hurting kids.
Now the UK is saying, yeah, we can't do this.
It's about time the United States starts paying attention to what these other countries are talking about.
libby emmons
Right, but we have people who are making far too much money off of this.
If you look at some of the reporting that Jennifer Bilek did, she's done these deep dives into the pharmaceutical industry and found that the amount of money being generated from giving these off-label drugs to kids, performing these surgeries, it's huge.
And now you have the Biden administration pressing for insurance companies to cover this or else those insurance companies are considered discriminatory.
However, why is it that it is discriminatory for insurance companies to not cover breast augmentation for men, but it's not discriminatory for insurance companies to not cover breast augmentation for women?
In fact, if you look at the Supreme Court ruling on Bostock, which said that, what's her name, Amy Schneider, the man who was trans and was going to the funeral home Dressed in women's clothing, right?
So the Supreme Court said you can't fire Amy because Amy if you fire Amy for wearing women's clothing You are discriminating against Amy on the basis that Amy is a man Because a woman would not be fired for wearing women's clothing.
tim pool
This was Supreme Court, right?
libby emmons
This was the Supreme Court.
tim pool
What basically this that basically?
codified gender identity as protected under 1964 Civil Rights Act Exactly.
libby emmons
So that's what Bostock did.
Now, if you are requiring insurance companies to give boob jobs to men on the basis that it's discriminatory against their gender identity to not fund it... That's what they're doing?
This is what the Biden administration has instructed Medicaid to do under HHS.
unidentified
Huh.
libby emmons
Yes.
I wrote about this for Human Events.
Yeah.
So what's interesting is, is it not discriminatory to tell a woman that she cannot affirm her female gender identity?
tim pool
Free boob jobs?
libby emmons
Free boob jobs for men, though.
Not for women.
But I think that's discriminatory because you're discriminating against a woman's gender identity by not letting her get boob jobs for free.
tim pool
You can put it simply, you can't provide to one sex something and not to the other.
libby emmons
So I think Medicaid really needs to step it up and start providing boob jobs for women for free.
I think most guys in this country would agree.
Sex work is work, y'all, right?
So don't you think that underprivileged women should have the opportunity to further their careers in sex work by getting free boob jobs under Medicaid?
ian crossland
I don't need boobs to be good at sex.
Let's just get that on the table.
greg price
I'm just in awe of the fact that we're like... I'm just saying.
libby emmons
Don't you think?
greg price
I'm in awe of the fact that we're even having this conversation.
I'm not.
What the hell are we doing?
libby emmons
I have this conversation literally every day.
tim pool
Ever since the Large Hadron Collider fired up in 2016, our universe has been imploding.
greg price
Why are we even talking about men getting boob jobs?
Because they want them.
libby emmons
Because they don't want to be men.
Maybe they just want to stay home and play with them.
ian crossland
You're speaking my mind, Greg.
I'm like, why?
This is a hard one to go through, but I think people need to hear it.
They need to learn.
tim pool
Well, look, look, look.
We'll keep it to the basics of the law.
And I think the challenge with the law is you can't have moral logic in the law.
Otherwise, you will get things you don't want.
So I mentioned this a couple times, but I'll break it down this way.
The left says, we want gender identity to be protected.
The law then says, okay, that has to be defined in such a way that anyone can understand it.
So in New York, they say gender identity is self-expression.
But self-expression is so broad it now starts to encompass literally anything and now they actually say that any gender that you come up with or clothes you wear.
So what ends up happening is...
When you say, we shouldn't allow the government to, you know, pay for plastic surgery or whatever, you get the question of, well, what about this person needs gender-affirming care to save their life?
Okay, we'll allow that.
Okay, well, but what about a woman who also is depressed for having small breasts?
She needs it for the exact same reason.
She's depressed, she's having suicidal ideation, and believes, talk to her therapist, that breast implants would alleviate the depression, body dysmorphia.
Then, based on the moral logic, we have to provide it to everybody, right?
Well, now I don't think... Well, actually, I should say, I think the left probably would be on board with that.
But this is where it gets difficult for where we are.
If you would argue that in Florida, parents have the final say in what medical treatments their kids get and what their kids learn, that includes a parent choosing to give their kid a sex change operation.
So if you don't want the government mandating vaccines, then I think it's just you have to
come out and say it's not about moral logic and consistency in the law, it's about upholding
your values. And your values will say the government should stop one thing but should
not stop the other based on your personal beliefs. So do you think parents should be
libby emmons
allowed to amputate their children's legs? Well, I'm not saying one way or the other.
What I'm saying is... Like, should that be legal?
tim pool
But this is my point.
libby emmons
Right.
ian crossland
Hell no, unless there's a threat to the kid's life.
libby emmons
Hell no.
So why should they be allowed to amputate their dicks?
tim pool
I think the answer is clearly yes.
libby emmons
Like, don't you think it's childish?
tim pool
Should a parent be allowed to bring their kid to the doctor, get their legs amputated?
Yes, absolutely.
libby emmons
Healthy legs?
tim pool
Well, you didn't say healthy.
libby emmons
I'm saying healthy.
That's the caveat.
tim pool
Right.
So here's the issue.
If a kid has got MRSA or gangrene or something, or a serious catastrophic injury, and the doctor says, I believe the leg should be amputated.
How does the government, if they're seeking to intervene to prevent healthy amputations, determine fast enough in this circumstance?
This is the challenge of hard moral logic in the law.
We have to recognize it's about values and not about saying government should or shouldn't.
So, if a parent goes to the doctor and the doctor says, if we don't cut this leg off, the kid's going to get a blood infection and die.
And then the government goes, that leg looks fine to me!
You're amputating your kid's healthy leg!
libby emmons
Well, now we go back to the Christian scientists, remember, who refused medical treatment across the board, and I think ended up getting sued for that, right?
Didn't the Supreme Court make a decision on Christian scientists who don't want to bring medical treatment for their kids?
tim pool
It's a big challenge.
libby emmons
This was like when I was a kid, they were talking about this.
greg price
But I think there's like a distinction to be made about, you know, if you're losing the leg example of a parent saying that they just want to amputate their kid's leg for shits and gigs.
tim pool
But no one is saying that.
When it comes to gender affirmation, the parents are saying, I'm concerned my kid will kill themselves because they've become depressed and they're having suicidal ideation.
Now, a lot of these institutions are just speeding these kids through, as we learned from Helena Kirshner and many other detransitioners.
They walk in and there's like an hour consultation before they're given powerful drugs.
So the issue is, When it comes to should parents have final say, you run into a challenge of saying, I stick to the strict reality of law.
No, you don't.
You would say, no, you can't amputate the genitals of this child.
That's wrong.
Government should stop you.
However, in other circumstances, you want the parents to have total discretion.
greg price
See, my view is parents can have discretion, but I would like to ban them from surgically mutilating the bodies of their children.
I don't think I can be a hypocrite for saying that.
I want government to come in and say, you are not allowed to do this.
This is evil.
This is hurting children.
libby emmons
You're also not allowed to beat your children.
greg price
Yeah, like this is my point.
And like there have been no long-term studies about what the effects of these drugs do to kids over time.
Like there have been no long-term studies into this.
tim pool
This is the point I'm making.
You cannot make the argument that parents should have final say.
If you believe there are circumstances where they should not.
So we went through this with the Parental Rights and Education Bill.
Where everyone said, parents have a right to determine what their kids are learning.
And I say, I agree with that.
And there are circumstances, we had someone on recently, We were talking about, uh, if parents don't want to give their kid, you know, cancer treatment, should the government intervene, take their kids away?
And they said, yes, the government absolutely should.
And I'm like, no way!
I completely oppose that.
unidentified
Well, that's the, uh, that's Christian, that's the, I watched that episode.
libby emmons
That's the, uh, that's Christian scientists.
unidentified
I don't think the government knows everything.
tim pool
And I think there's, there's very difficult questions in what's right for your children.
And the last thing I want is for the government to come in and say, we're injecting your child against your will with something.
You know, not every parent is a doctor.
Most parents are not doctors, considering.
And so there's a real challenge of when you let the government come in and decide what medical treatments you have to get.
libby emmons
There is the get taller surgery.
greg price
But they already do that.
Like they do that with like, there are vaccines that you have to get in order to send a child to public school.
Like they're doing that.
tim pool
But there are exemptions to those, I'm pretty sure.
And I still I, you know, there are tough questions about The government coming and saying, because you did not do this, we're taking your children away and, well, you don't have to do it, but you can't come to our place if you didn't.
That's very different.
libby emmons
There's a polio outbreak in New York right now because people didn't get their kids vaccinated.
tim pool
Is that why, though?
libby emmons
Yes.
tim pool
I mean, this is New York.
I heard it was full of anti-vaxxers.
New York is full of anti-vaxxers?
greg price
Well, no, it's happening mostly in the Orthodox Jewish community.
libby emmons
Yeah, it's happening mostly in Rockland County in the Orthodox Jewish community.
greg price
Because Orthodox Jews don't believe in any of that.
libby emmons
Well, because I called my kid's doctor.
I was like, so polio?
What's the deal?
What are we doing now?
And he was like, it's unvaccinated is what it is.
And I was like, oh.
ian crossland
Still, I'm with a grain of salt.
I don't know.
I don't know why people are getting polio.
Sometimes diseases come out.
They tell you it's for one reason.
Turns out it's for another reason.
libby emmons
Oh, interesting.
Yeah.
greg price
But I just think like just when it comes to, you know, mutilation of a healthy child's bodies who have gender dysphoria and need help that doesn't involve going through a sex change operation when you're 13 or 14 years old.
I don't see why I don't see why you can take the position of parents rights while also saying this should be illegal because this is wrong and it's hurting people and it's causing irreversible damage to children every day.
I think if you do that to your children, you are abusing your children and child abuse is what we consider to be legal.
or illegal?
tim pool
I've got, I went to an antique store and they had 340 Life magazines from like 1940 to 1970.
Amazing.
I bought them all and we're going to put together like a reading area so we could basically,
like what I want to do is I want to like sort them.
Sort them all by date.
And then do a kind of like, breakdown of stories at the time, how they were reported versus what we know now.
Because we have like, Vietnam and stuff.
But I bring this up because Thalidomide is one of the magazines that I have.
ian crossland
Oh, when it was great?
tim pool
Thalidomide!
So great!
Mothers!
Anti-nausea medicine!
You're pregnant?
unidentified
Take this!
tim pool
And then the kids had no arms.
libby emmons
Right.
You're like, they were all weird.
They were like weird fish arms.
tim pool
Yeah, they had just like hands on their shoulders.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
And it was like, was it for morning sickness or whatever?
libby emmons
It was for morning sickness, yeah.
tim pool
Now, what I don't want... Here's the challenge.
When a new treatment comes out, does a person have a right to try it?
Like, if a drug comes out and says, this will treat your morning sickness, would I have a right to take it?
greg price
Well, yeah, Trump signed right to try into law.
tim pool
No, no, no, but that's when you're dying.
I'm talking about an anti-nausea medicine comes out, women will take it, and then all of a sudden a few years later we're like, whoopsie!
libby emmons
Don't you think that there should be an approvals process?
tim pool
But there is.
Remember, what was that birth control that got recalled?
I don't know the name.
libby emmons
Orthotricicline?
They all get recalled at some point.
tim pool
There was some commercial that was really popular and like a year later they were like... Gardasil?
I don't know.
libby emmons
Gardasil is the HPV vaccine.
tim pool
Yeah, they recalled it or whatever.
The issue is, If there's something being sold and there's some treatment, right?
So like, you know, Joe Rogan talks about NAD and stuff.
And Luke was on the show talking about stem cell therapy, where they give you an IV and flood your body with stem cells to repair damage.
And it's like, what's the long-term effects of that?
Because we've not been doing that for a long time.
Should people have a right to try that if they want?
They say it's safe.
They say it can be used to treat cancer.
My point is, you could get a treatment and then it turns out it's really, really bad.
You know, like, like thalidomide.
These women were like, hey, this medicine's gonna make me not feel sick.
And then their kids had no arms.
Like, totally crazy stuff.
And then once they found out, they were like, we gotta stop doing that.
So, you know, ultimately what it comes down to is, I don't think the government should mandate.
And then there are questions about what the limits we set are when the government can mandate.
It's not as simple as to say, the government can or can't.
It's as simple to say, we have values and we've determined in some areas we won't allow it, in some areas we will.
greg price
I mean, yeah, like, I just take the position that child abuse is illegal.
Like, I consider this child abuse.
If you are doing this to your kid who has gender dysphoria, because, like, why do a lot of parents, like, put their children through this?
Is it because they really care about them, or are they just, like, really woke and want to be cool in front of their friends?
libby emmons
I think it varies.
greg price
I think it varies a lot, too, but, like, it is still child abuse to do this, and child abuse is illegal.
Like, we don't allow parents to abuse their children because that's parents' rights.
Like, that would be illegal.
They would be arrested for that.
libby emmons
A good friend of mine, her daughter is going through this now and she was convinced to push her daughter into this direction because the psychologist said that her daughter was going to kill herself.
greg price
Okay, but we're seeing that suicide rates are up a lot with people who do go through this as well.
libby emmons
This was about six years ago, so that's where they are.
They're dealing with this now.
tim pool
Well, let's jump to the story.
Speaking of child abuse, Hunter Biden attributes his penis obsession to body dysmorphia.
libby emmons
Ah, this is what I was telling you about before.
tim pool
Yeah, I just want to say, I think Hunter Biden was abused by Joe.
unidentified
For sure.
tim pool
Hands down.
greg price
There is something, just say it.
libby emmons
There's something weird going on there.
greg price
There's something insanely messed up about that family.
Let me tell you.
tim pool
So, Hunter Biden said his obsession with naked selfies was the result of body dysmorphia, according to a rambling screed found in the notes of his hard drive.
I love to be reassured that my- I'm not reading this.
libby emmons
I think you have to now.
greg price
You gotta do it.
You gotta do it.
tim pool
All right, strap in everybody.
Here we go.
libby emmons
Buy the ticket, take the ride.
tim pool
I love to be reassured that my nine inch very big penis was actually big.
It may sound funny to you, but it's body dysmorphia.
I know my penis is almost twice the size of an average man's penis.
The first son wrote on July 12, 2018.
The note was found in the hard drive of a laptop Biden left at the Delaware.
I think this dude was heavily abused by Jews.
ian crossland
Who is he writing the note to?
libby emmons
Himself.
lydia smith
His diary entry.
tim pool
Or to his dad.
Remember when he sent adult materials to his dad?
libby emmons
I missed that.
tim pool
Yeah, it was a link to Pornhub.
libby emmons
Wow.
tim pool
And it was sent, it was like a text message to dad.
unidentified
Yikes.
tim pool
I think, come on, when you see something like that, you're like, this guy was abusing his kid.
libby emmons
I would never send porn to my dad.
greg price
That's a controversial take right there.
tim pool
Well, you say that and Hunter Biden is watching.
libby emmons
So one of the most... Me and my dad play Wordle.
lydia smith
It's not the same.
greg price
One of the most, I think, the most ridiculous things that has happened, like the most ridiculous stories that has come out in the Joe Biden era, it has to do with the Ashley Biden diary and Project Veritas.
They had this diary where Ashley Biden wrote in it that Joe Biden like abused her sexually and in other ways.
tim pool
But like overtly and seriously?
greg price
Oh yeah, like she said that he would take like inappropriate showers with, it said all of these nasty things.
tim pool
I know about the shower thing, but what was beyond that?
greg price
I can't remember off the top of my head, but it had some nasty things in it.
They had this diary, the New York Times confirmed that this diary was real, and nobody talks about it.
Instead, Project Veritas journalists get raided by the FBI over it.
And there is something seriously, seriously wrong about the Biden family, and the media doesn't care.
tim pool
We've got videos of Joe Biden sniffing little girls.
It's right in front of your face.
It's been in front of everyone's face for a long time.
And so it's not farfetched to say that he probably abused Hunter.
Hunter's a messed up guy.
Yeah.
ian crossland
I won't say probably.
It's likely.
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if Hunter was abused.
I don't know who did it.
It could have been Joe.
It could have been Joe's brother.
It could have been a friend of the family.
A lot of times it's a friend of the family.
greg price
Here's the thing though.
Here's the thing that like counters the argument that Joe did.
It was that Beau Biden was like a very upstanding human.
He was the good son.
He was like an upstanding human being.
He was, you know, an Iraq war veteran.
He was an attorney general.
He was not messed up in the same way that Hunter Biden was.
libby emmons
Well, he was supposed to be the one to take everything over.
He was supposed to be the senator and the president and everything like that.
So I think everyone's just disappointed that Hunter Biden, the body man, is the one that's stuck around.
greg price
Yeah.
ian crossland
That's harsh.
That's harsh.
Hunter, if you hear this, man, you got this, bro.
libby emmons
Listen, here's the thing.
I honestly, I feel kind of bad for these guys, for Ashley Biden and for Hunter Biden.
And I think it's a shame that they never had the opportunity to do anything in their own right, really.
But they're treated badly.
I mean, Joe Biden treats Hunter Biden really badly.
ian crossland
I've never seen the two interact.
libby emmons
No, but I mean everything he says about him constantly saying, you know, this is the smartest guy I ever met and then you read Laptop from Hell and he's totally trashing him to his face behind the scenes.
greg price
Literally calling him a pedophile.
libby emmons
Yeah, like horrible stuff, you know?
It's like he says one thing about his son in public and everybody knows that he's saying this other stuff behind the scenes.
That would make me feel so demoralized.
tim pool
Yeah, what do you call him?
Pedo Peter?
greg price
Pedo Peter.
That's crazy.
And like, it's sad, but at the same time, it's a fair game to attack it.
It's fair game for us to go after it, because like, imagine if this was the Trump family.
tim pool
But I'm not going after anything, I'm pointing it out.
I mean, this is the first son who calls his dad a child abuser.
greg price
Well, I'm saying like, the media comes back and says, you're attacking his family, why would you attack his family?
And it's like, okay, imagine this was the Trump family.
You'd be doing it, like he'd have his Of course!
He'd have his door kicked down by the FBI raid and perp walked at this point.
I have to things on her body.
tim pool
I ignore the whinging of the Democratic press.
I try not to ignore when they're lying out right.
We can call it their lies, but there's a ton of these Democrat activists who are like,
and I'm just like, I don't care, dude.
You know, them coming out and being like, don't attack the first family.
It's like a bunch of French people yelling at me in French.
I'm like, I don't know what you're saying.
I don't care what you're saying.
It's irrelevant.
Now, if they're coming out and they're writing fake stories like the Boston Children's Hospital thing, I've been trying to obfuscate what's really going on.
You got to call that out.
That's like manipulation and lies.
With Hunter Biden.
Yo, dude, this guy, his laptop is confirmed by multiple outlets.
The emails are confirmed.
Even the New York Times said it.
greg price
A year and a half after the fact.
tim pool
Oh, and the media and Big Tech suppressed the information because they knew it was bad for Biden.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's what they do.
Like, if you look at this right now, I just got sent this.
Libs of TikTok Facebook account was just suspended for no reason at all.
tim pool
No reason at all.
libby emmons
And the big tech companies are backing all of this.
greg price
Yeah, and like their reaction to, you know, the Boston Children's Hospital story has, and like their reactions to a lot of similar stories when it comes to, when it comes to the transgender issue is literally insane.
Like my friend, Jamie Michelle, who runs an organization called Gays Against Groomers, which is just like, you know, they're, they're kind of just a media thing where a bunch of, where they're all gay and trans.
And they talk about how they talk against like sex changes for kids and they, they speak out against groomers and they had their Twitter account suspended today.
And they've been, you know, shadow banned on Instagram.
tim pool
Was it reinstated?
greg price
It was reinstated like right before the show started.
libby emmons
Yeah, it was reinstated.
I wonder if Libs of TikTok will have any recourse like that with Facebook.
greg price
But they're going after Libs of TikTok hard for this too.
I've seen so many, you know, woke journalists who have been saying, why hasn't Twitter suspended Libs of TikTok yet for posting things that this hospital is posting on their YouTube channel?
tim pool
You know what I was thinking?
We talked about this before.
That this issue didn't exist prior to the advent of widespread hormonal treatments or the isolation of the hormones in general.
So, you know, I've talked to some people like, where was this issue a hundred years ago?
Well, there was no isolated hormone.
I think they did like serotonin first.
So you couldn't take anything to change your body.
libby emmons
Well, and then it turned out that the SSRIs are bogus anyway.
tim pool
Well, so the argument was that Trans people have always existed, but they were just extremely depressed, uncomfortable in their bodies, and it wasn't a public issue because no one knew.
With the advent of hormonal therapies, these people were now having access, and this issue emerges.
There's also- But I wanted to- I just wanted to point out what that means.
If the reason the issue exists is because the medical technology has emerged to allow it to exist in this form, then once we get to, like, DNA splicing viruses, there's gonna be people who are like, I wanna be a cat.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And they're going to start taking pills that start cutting their DNA.
libby emmons
Well, there are people who want to do that.
Like you see that there's people who get like a full body modification to be cat looking or to be like, like, who's that?
The, I don't know.
I'm not comic book person, but there's the guy who got fully changed to be like the red death guy.
tim pool
Red Death Earring?
libby emmons
Yeah, and like...
Red Skull?
Yeah, and his nose totally done.
If you look it up, there he is.
Or there's the lady who became looking exactly like a Barbie doll with the exact Barbie proportions
including like the crazy eye thing and hair extensions and the boobs and the whole thing.
I mean, people can use this medical Frankenstein technology to do whatever they want, and the doctors who go along with it have really found their sweet spot with the whole trans thing because they can do it without having to feel bad about performing medical experiments on people with mental disorders.
greg price
I think there is also, I think, a major, major cultural aspect to it as well.
Cause like if you look at, you know, there are studies about with the percentage of people in specific generations that identify as LGBT and in like the younger generations, it's at like 15, 20%.
It's like 30%.
And it's like, it's like grown, it's grown from like 2% in the silent generation to like 20% today.
Like, did that happen?
I don't think that happened by accident.
tim pool
I'm just trying to bring up that, like where this goes from here.
Not to rehash things that we've talked about in the previous segment, something different.
And that is, we're going to develop new technologies.
You know, people like Hunter Biden, who's got dysmorphia or whatever.
Oh, he's gonna take a pill that's gonna, you know...
Enlarge himself things like that people are gonna do it like crazy people are going to start doing designer gene therapies on their kids.
So like We've talked about I mean, I assume you guys have seen Gattaca.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
We're gonna get to the point where it's just like Why have your kid with bad eyes?
Why have your kid have bad hair?
libby emmons
why have your kid with with your kid should be six foot five and then we're gonna just homogenize everybody and Well, and then if your parents can't afford to have you be recreated as some extra smart person, you're just going to be way down below everybody else.
ian crossland
Or you get the taxpayers to pay for it and make it mandatory or like optionally.
That's what they're doing with the surgeries on, or what Biden's trying to do is make it tax funded.
libby emmons
Yes, that's right.
And that's why DeSantis was like, no, Medicaid will not be funding this in Florida.
greg price
And in Canada, I don't know if this is a federal law in Canada, but a lot of Canadian provinces have laws where if you don't respect your child's identity, the state can take your child away from you.
libby emmons
That is federal.
And part of that has to do with the conversion therapy ban that was put into law by the Trudeau Liberals.
So basically, they redefined conversion therapy and Biden has taken a cue from, you know, pretty boy Justin up there.
And what they've done is they've said if you do not affirm your child's identity, if you, in fact, say, hey, daughter, you're actually my daughter, then that is conversion therapy and that is illegal.
greg price
And that happened in Texas, too.
Like, remember that story in Texas?
libby emmons
Jeffrey Younger.
greg price
Jeffrey Younger.
He was a kid.
He was a kid who, a court ruled that his father was, like, no longer alive.
libby emmons
Jeffrey Younger was the dad.
greg price
Yeah, yeah.
He got custody of his son taken away from him because he wouldn't affirm his identity as a girl.
libby emmons
Meanwhile, he had evidence that his son was being like, I'd rather wear boy clothes.
greg price
Yeah, it was all his mom just like... Being totally crazy.
Being totally insane.
tim pool
Let's jump to this other very contentious social issue.
greg price
Ooh, I saw this on Rogan.
tim pool
Joe Rogan references his 14-year-old daughter and, you know, pro-choice in a heated debate about abortion.
He said, you know, you're not going to force a 14-year-old who's been raped to carry the rapist's baby.
I thought it was interesting because he had on Seth Dillon and they both made their points.
It was well stated on both sides.
I think Seth Dillon made some interesting points.
Let's read this and we'll talk about it.
Joe Rogan clashed with a conservative commentator during a heated debate about abortion.
Seth Dillon is a commentator?
libby emmons
I thought he was a satirist.
greg price
He's the CEO of the Babylon Bee.
tim pool
I think he is a satirist.
greg price
But he does political commentary on Twitter and stuff.
tim pool
He's a polarizing podcaster.
He's polarizing.
He's the most popular.
Previously stated he's 100% for a woman's right to choose.
Full stop.
No Jogan.
Jogan.
No Joe Rogan.
Jogan.
That's it.
He's Jogan from now on.
Wrong.
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
I will bet $100.
Okay, no.
A gentleman's bet.
I never like putting money in it.
A gentleman's bet, good sir Joe Rogan, that if I sat down with him and we had a conversation, he would recant that statement.
lydia smith
Oh, for sure.
tim pool
Outright.
So, uh, we'll talk about it.
So, uh, he says, There are women who have been raped who should not have to effing carry some rapist's baby, Rogan exclaimed.
There's women who have been assaulted before the age of 14.
Dylan, the founder of, uh, he's not the founder of Babylon.
greg price
He's the CEO.
unidentified
He's the CEO.
greg price
Adam Ford's the founder of Babylon.
tim pool
Right, right.
Wrong New York Post, fact check.
lydia smith
Boo.
tim pool
He said, there are people who have been born of rape and are alive right now and are pro-life.
They go around speaking and say, I had a right to live.
They will go around making a case, and they were born of rape.
So, uh, I actually, I totally understand what Seth Dillon is saying.
I do agree with Joe in this capacity about, for one, a 14-year-old.
I think that's not a viable pregnancy.
Like, way too young to be able to carry a baby.
I mean, that's the age where the doctor's going to make a decision.
But I fall on the more libertarian side of the government.
Can't force someone who was already forced to carry a baby in their body.
That's a difference though.
The reason I say Joe Rogan would recant that statement if I talked to him, I guarantee you Joe Rogan is not in favor of abortion at nine months for elective reasons.
greg price
I hate this debate so much and the reason I hate it is because it's like not it's not due to the fact that I don't want to talk about it.
It's the fact that abortions because of a rape are exceedingly rare in comparison to what most abortions are.
tim pool
Right.
greg price
It's a way for the left to kind of get away from talking about what abortion actually is, where they just say, oh, there's a, if a 14 year old was raped, you wouldn't, you would support her carrying a rapist baby.
And it's like, that is not even, that is a significant reason.
tim pool
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
It's really, really simple.
It's really simple.
When the left says that, the response to Joe Rogan is, you know what, Joe, I'm going to give you that one.
So then do you think that all other instances where it's not, would that be okay to ban?
If you want to talk about banning the 93% of elective abortions with no reason given or whatever, then I agree with you.
Okay, rape excluded, women can get abortions if they've been raped, and now you agree to ban 93% of abortions?
greg price
Well, so Seth did that.
I watched this episode yesterday in full, and Seth did that because they started talking about the case in Nebraska.
There was this big case in Nebraska recently that the media lied through their teeth about.
There was this mother, and she had a 17-year-old daughter who was 23 weeks pregnant, so six months.
Yes, so this is a fully formed baby, and it's 23 weeks.
Nebraska had a 20-week abortion, man.
This woman gave her daughter abortion pills, and they still-borned the baby at their house.
They then took it, and they burned and buried the body.
And the police got hold of this because of a tip from somebody, and so they subpoenaed their Facebook DM.
Well, not subpoenaed.
They got a search warrant for their Facebook DMs because they had talked about us.
The daughter was like, I can't wait to get this effing thing out of me.
And they're now being charged with multiple felonies for this.
But the media lied about it because they said Facebook turned over DMs to the police.
The headlines from so many media outlets were literally Facebook turns over DMs to the police to prosecute teenager for having an abortion without mentioning the fact that they did this at home for the fully formed baby that they burned and buried somewhere.
tim pool
So, absolutely psychotic, and no surprise the media lied.
Seth brought that up to Joe?
greg price
Yeah, so they started talking about it, and Joe was obviously against that.
He said, like, that's ridiculous and everything.
tim pool
And that's the thing, like, if Joe says, you know, he previously said he's 100% for a woman's right to choose, he's not 100% for a woman's right to choose.
ian crossland
No, I think that's out of context, that statement.
Because that's not something he would say with no pretext.
He was probably saying it in reference to something.
unidentified
Maybe.
Maybe.
ian crossland
I didn't see the show.
Do you remember, Greg, when he said that?
unidentified
Did he come off as saying... No, he did say... Well, no, he said he's, like, in favor... No, fair point.
tim pool
He said, quote, It gets weird when the baby gets, like, six months old.
I know that some states have late-term abortions and sometimes you need one for medical reasons, right?
The woman could die if she gives birth.
Like, it's a decision that people have to make.
I am 100% for a woman's right to choose, but as a human being, just a person observing
things is a big difference between a little clump of cells and a fetus with the eyeball
and the beating heart.
ian crossland
Funny how they phrase it.
tim pool
And for anybody to pretend there's not.
greg price
So actually, I'm 100% there's a beating heart.
tim pool
Apologies, Joe.
ian crossland
But they cut out the but part of it.
Nice job, Newsweek.
You screwed that one up.
tim pool
Who wrote this?
His guess is where you draw the line.
He says, right.
Where do you draw the line?
That's the question.
It's what I call a human issue.
It's a very complicated issue.
It's so fraught with emotion.
It's so political.
greg price
But that question is something the left cannot answer.
They cannot answer where they draw the line.
unidentified
They don't.
greg price
And that's why they don't.
libby emmons
That's why that, that bill in Congress.
unidentified
Well, yeah.
greg price
So that's why they constantly bring up things like, would you let that 10 year old carry her rapist?
Like the story we saw in Ohio of the 10 year old who apparently, who got raped by an illegal.
tim pool
I called that, I called that a media hoax.
libby emmons
By her mother's boyfriend.
greg price
Yeah, so it ended up not being a hoax.
It ended up not being a hoax.
It ended up not being a hoax that a 10-year-old child was impregnated by rape, but it ended up being the fact that it was her mother's boyfriend who was an illegal immigrant.
tim pool
No, no, no, it was a hoax.
So the reason I say that is because obviously it did happen.
Obviously there was a pregnancy.
Obviously there was a crime committed.
But when you look at the statements from the local government, it was in Ohio, right?
They said she could have gotten the treatment, but they did not do it.
They went somewhere else instead.
So what I'm saying is, it is a hoax in the sense that they drummed up a big political story for political play without the full context.
libby emmons
What about the 16-year-old girl in Florida?
What about the 16-year-old girl in Florida who's an orphan?
She has no parents.
She's pregnant.
She's 10 weeks pregnant.
tim pool
Oh yeah, we have that story actually.
The judge ruled she's not mature enough to have an abortion?
libby emmons
The judge ruled that she's not mature enough to have an abortion, that she's not allowed to make the decision for herself.
She is within the timeline where an abortion would be permissible under Florida law.
tim pool
Really?
And they're not allowing it?
libby emmons
And they're not allowing it because a parent or guardian would have to make that decision.
She doesn't have any of that.
Well, then she's the she's the she's the guardian, but she's not the legal guardian.
The state is the legal guardian of this girl, right?
I think that's crazy.
Yeah, I mean, she's within the legal limits of the of the law.
Right?
Well, they're not allowed to do it.
tim pool
It's human life should not be should not be taken.
libby emmons
Yeah, I do think that there should be exceptions for rape and incest, for sure, and I do think that there should be limits.
tim pool
But this isn't rape, is it?
libby emmons
No, this case is not rape, but I do think that there should be, you know, I don't think nine months, obviously, and I do think that it should be very tight to near conception.
Well, so this 16-year-old... And I don't think anyone should do it, but I also think there should be limits.
tim pool
Was the 16-year-old, it wasn't statutory rape or anything like that?
libby emmons
No, she's she was with a fella and she said he's not capable of helping out.
He's not going to be a dad.
He's like not around.
tim pool
And what's the justification for why she should be able to get an abortion?
Is 16 old enough?
libby emmons
It's within the it's within the laws of the state of Florida.
greg price
Florida has a 15 week abortion.
libby emmons
That's right.
So she's under the time limit.
tim pool
Wow, that's crazy.
ian crossland
Yeah, I don't like it, man.
greg price
The way I see it is like if a woman feels the need to terminate a pregnancy, like she's been let down by society, let down by her family.
libby emmons
Not entirely.
greg price
Well, that's what I see.
I see it as a problem when a woman feels like there is no way out besides that.
libby emmons
There's something that nobody talks about, right?
There's something that nobody talks about that I've experienced among my friend group over the past, you know, however old I am.
And that Joe Biden has certainly picked up on.
They have a new plan to promote their abortion message by targeting men and telling men like, hey, be pro-abortion, right?
I have known so many women, married, unmarried, with a guy who have been coerced into getting an abortion.
You know, I knew one woman who her husband just didn't want to have kids and was like, if you don't abort this baby, I'm going to leave you.
That happened over and over in that marriage.
I have another friend, it was before she got married.
tim pool
Wait, all she has to do is say, no, if I have it, you can't leave.
libby emmons
Sure.
Sure, there's always the thing you can say, right?
There's always the other thing that you can come up with.
tim pool
When a woman gets pregnant, she has legal control in courts over men's finances.
libby emmons
She felt very coerced and forced into getting this abortion.
That's what ended up happening.
Whether you think she should have felt that way or not, that's how she felt.
And I've known that to happen to many other women where the reason they get the abortion is either to keep the man or, you know, to do what they're told or to not get beat or whatever it is.
Men do coerce women to getting abortions.
That happens.
And we have to deal with that as well.
It's not just the woman being like, well, you know, I think I want to do this today.
Men are culpable in this as well.
greg price
And nobody talks about like the depression and other like, you know, things like that that can happen to women after they have an abortion.
And like, it's disgusting.
And that's disgusting that it happens.
But this is something that the Biden administration has said out loud.
Like, Kamala Harris did like a roundtable with a bunch of abortion activists.
And she was talking about like, what are you going to tell your, are you going to tell your son that if they get a girl pregnant that, like she was saying, this could affect you because your son is now having a baby.
And it's like, okay, so we're going to teach men that they're not responsible for their actions?
libby emmons
I had the same exact thought with that.
And I've actually had the conversation with my son who's 12.
I've been like, listen, if something happens and You know, God forbid this happens and someone gets pregnant.
Mommy is here.
I have a stable home.
Mommy is here.
I'll be happy to be the grandma.
Like, you know, I know that sounds ridiculous.
He's 12.
I just want to put that out there.
greg price
We're just a culture that doesn't value life or personal responsibility that comes with it.
And I think that needs to change.
tim pool
Look, our culture is decaying and collapsing.
I think cultural enforcement is everything.
The laws are meaningless when your culture won't uphold the law.
So everything we're talking about is really just rooted in American values and culture has just eroded to the point where you have One faction, which is most of the Democrat voters, the anti-Trump people, with no moral framework whatsoever, and then you have the traditional American moral framework.
greg price
Well, the Democrats have become so insane when it comes to abortion.
They're literally nuts.
They tried to pass a bill.
Well, they did pass a bill in the...
In the House, that would have nullified every state pro-life law across America, and it would have allowed for abortion at any time for any reason at all.
And I think the median American voter does not support that by polling data.
The median voter in America supports abortion within a few certain weeks, but Democrats have become so nuts on this issue that they think the overturning of Roe v. Wade was going to be their saving grace in this midterm.
And I don't think that, because the American people are not as insane on abortion as the institution.
And like, abortion for no limits, for no reason at all, repealing the Hyde Amendment, taxpayer-funded, that's in the Democrat Party platform.
libby emmons
I mean, the thing is, the Democrats want us to kill our babies, and they want us to sterilize our children.
tim pool
Well, they're sterilizing their children, and they're getting abortions, so the future will be Christian conservative.
libby emmons
Okay, that's always worked out well in the past.
tim pool
I'm not saying it's good or bad, I'm saying that's the reality of one political group removing their children's ability to reproduce and then literally removing their children.
libby emmons
And they're trying to remove our children's ability to reproduce.
tim pool
Arizona just passed school choice, right?
That was a big thing Cory DeAngelo was tweeting about.
So if conservatives win on this front, it's the end of the leftist ideology.
libby emmons
Yeah, because there'll be no way to force us to teach our kids.
tim pool
But let me jump to this story here from louderwithcrowder.com.
Crowder's been suspended, guys.
So we don't know why.
Crowder doesn't know exactly why.
It was his interview with Carrie Lake.
We've had her on the show several times.
We've not had these issues.
We've talked about a whole lot.
Team Crowder writes, Ladies and gentlemen, the Orwellian censors at YouTube are at it again.
This time they've chosen to not only target Louder with Crowder, but to silence Republican gubernatorial candidate Carrie Lake.
Our interview with the Arizona gubernatorial candidate has been removed from YouTube over their alleged misinformation policy.
Crowder is unable to livestream on YouTube for the next two weeks.
What specifically ran afoul of the policy, only YouTube knows.
But our lawyer, William Richmond, will be getting answers.
We'll share with you on the show Thursday, August 18th.
There will be a show.
And this is really important, guys.
If you guys typically tune in to Crowder, now you know.
Make sure you tell everybody what happened, because they're having shows.
I'm assuming they're going to be putting them up on Rumble.
Rumble.com slash C slash Steven Crowder.
Welcome to the Midterms, everybody.
We knew this was gonna get crazy.
Who did we have on who just told us it was gonna get really crazy?
Was it Naomi Wolf?
lydia smith
Yeah, possibly.
tim pool
I think it was Naomi.
She was like, it's gonna get crazy.
libby emmons
That was a good episode, too.
tim pool
That was good.
It's gonna get crazy.
Yeah, you think they're suspending Crowder.
They're gonna do everything they can to try and diminish the voice of those who oppose the establishment.
They don't like that Liz Cheney lost.
They're going after Alex Jones.
They're trying to indict Donald Trump.
They just took Crowder down for two weeks off YouTube.
unidentified
That matters.
tim pool
You know what?
Just real quick.
You know why YouTube matters?
95% of Gen Z says they use YouTube.
It is the dominant platform for the younger generation.
libby emmons
That's right.
tim pool
This is where people need to be to be reaching the younger generation, being forced on a rumble.
Rumble's great.
I like rumble, but it's not where the younger generation is.
libby emmons
Yeah, this is what Jordan Peterson was saying years ago when he was asked why he was going on YouTube and doing videos instead of writing articles or something.
And he was like, I wanted to reach the most people.
So that's why I went on YouTube.
Do you think they're going to indict Trump?
greg price
I think they are absolutely going to.
They have to now, I guess.
Here's the thing.
There is no justice in Washington DC.
The DC justice system has been co-opted so much by the left that I do not doubt for one freaking second that Merrick Garland is going to find a corrupt A corrupt grand jury in DC that is going to unseal corrupt indictments on Donald Trump for crimes that he never committed.
I absolutely believe that 100% because they want to stop him.
They've seen the polls showing that he is beating Joe Biden in 2024 and they want to stop him and this is the way that they're going to do it.
But it's not going to work out.
I don't think it's going to work.
libby emmons
What are they going to indict him on?
greg price
They're going to find something.
tim pool
I thought they weren't going to do it because it's a step over the line.
They would just dangle it in front of everybody like, oh, we did a search warrant.
That proves he's a criminal.
That's what they're saying.
And they wouldn't cross that line.
But now what people are saying, and I'm starting to agree, because look, I'm not entirely sure, is that the move against Trump was so egregious they have no choice but to lean into it.
Otherwise, it just looks political.
So they have to come up with something to justify why they did.
greg price
They have spent six years searching for a crime.
unidentified
And trying to fabricate some.
tim pool
They fabricated evidence to justify spying on Trump, and Kevin Clinesmith, I believe his name is, received a one-year probation sentence for killing someone.
greg price
And not only that, but he now has his law license back by the DC bar in good standing!
libby emmons
That's crazy!
greg price
And then there's the other FBI lawyer, the guy who just got acquitted.
What the heck's his name?
He altered evidence in an email.
He was another guy who altered evidence to justify spying, and he just got acquitted for it.
His crime was in writing, and a D.C.
jury that consisted of two Hillary Clinton donors and a woman whose daughter went to school with his daughter voted to acquit him.
The guy's name escapes me.
Oh, Michael Sussman.
But that's how justice works in DC.
If you lie in FISA warrants to justify illegal spying on your political opponents, you'll get acquitted by a jury of your donors.
If you're Steve Bannon and you get held in contempt by an illegitimate congressional committee, they will put you in jail.
That's how justice works in DC, and that's why I absolutely think they're going to indict Trump.
tim pool
And then what happens?
I mean, we've already had so much crazy stuff happen in the past week or so with just the outrage.
I mean, the guy in Ohio, for instance, a Cincinnati FBI office.
What happens?
libby emmons
Didn't he go in with a nail gun?
unidentified
Wasn't it a nail gun?
tim pool
Because people think that nail guns can get through bulletproof or something like that.
It's a non, it's nonsense.
libby emmons
Oh, that's not a thing.
It's not a thing.
ian crossland
One of the things that happens is people turn on the TV, find out what's going on and they find shows like this.
So it's up to us in a lot of ways.
People are kind of.
libby emmons
Well, they turn on YouTube.
ian crossland
Changing the tone of the narrative and tone is big right now.
Mm hmm.
libby emmons
That's why everyone's coming down.
greg price
I don't know what will happen, but what I do know is I think it's going to light an effing fire under the GOP base.
That's absolutely what it's going to do.
tim pool
I saw a meme that showed a ship that said MAGA on it sinking and a bunch of rats wearing MAGA hats were like panicked and swimming away from it.
libby emmons
I don't think that's how it's going to go.
tim pool
And then I responded with a poll showing that Trump's actually, his polling's improved since the FBI raid.
And then they were all just like, all the lefties got depressed.
unidentified
No, really?
tim pool
It's like, bro, you guys have no idea what's going on, do you?
libby emmons
Well, they haven't had any idea.
tim pool
Trump supporters are not going to walk away from Trump just because the FBI is going after him.
They're going to rally behind him.
libby emmons
Right.
And they haven't had any idea what's going on since 2016.
I mean, you remember 2016, the entire media was like, the Trump voter?
Who is this Trump voter?
Who are these people?
And they still have not figured out Who the Trump voters are or why or why people are so opposed to the going narrative and the current regime.
greg price
And I'll say this.
There's only one crime that Donald Trump has ever committed.
Only one.
And that's beating Hillary Clinton.
That was a crime.
He was never supposed to do that.
And they have never been able to come to terms with that.
And so that is his only crime.
That's the crime that they want to take him down for.
And they're trying to do it.
ian crossland
I was watching a documentary on the Nazis last night, and basically after the First World War, the Treaty of Versailles annihilated Germany, took all this territory, put them in massive amounts of debt, so they felt hopeless.
And when people feel hopeless, they look for a leader, a strong leader, to help get them out of the trouble.
When you look at the way people have been persecuted the last two years and been driven insane with COVID, I'm afraid that people may snag onto a strongman that gives them hope, gives them a political, you know, I don't want to see another Hitler rise to power.
They've been like afraid of Trump and saying like, he's Hitler, he's Hitler.
Don't turn him into Hitler.
Don't do that to people.
Don't destroy their hope and their will to live.
Because they will look for a strongman if you do.
Just look at the past.
tim pool
Bro, you see that video?
This woman from Fox posted it.
Where she's like, this is what it's like when you get to work at 3am.
libby emmons
Oh my goodness, yes.
greg price
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
It's just people fighting in the streets all over the place.
It's so terrifying.
libby emmons
It's New York City, and it's people just beating the hell out of each other in the street, out the window, fuck!
tim pool
It's not one fight, it's like a bunch of fights all over the place.
libby emmons
It's a bunch of people freaking out on each other.
I found that terrifying.
In part because, okay, February 2019, or February 2020, before the pandemic, before everything went crazy, I was perfectly happy to walk around New York City at 3 o'clock in the morning.
Nothing like that was ever happening.
You never saw that.
tim pool
Well, now it's normal.
Now you have open air drug markets and homeless cities.
greg price
Screw Eric Adams.
He ran on cleaning this crap up.
unidentified
That's why he won.
libby emmons
That's why he won.
greg price
Yeah, that is literally why he won.
And instead he's focused on going to Texas to campaign against Greg Abbott.
libby emmons
He put up billboards in Florida about how gay people are welcome in New York as if anybody in the world didn't know that.
tim pool
Anybody who still lives in New York.
unidentified
I mean, he's got a question.
tim pool
We've been telling Libby to get out of there for a while.
greg price
I live in Virginia.
Virginia is great.
We have a Republican governor.
We have the only state body that's controlled.
tim pool
West Virginia is better.
greg price
Okay, I agree with that.
libby emmons
I really quite like West Virginia.
tim pool
But we- Oh man, it's beautiful.
greg price
It's gorgeous.
unidentified
Chickens.
libby emmons
If you can't- The little rolling hills,
the lush greenery.
tim pool
You go up on the mountain, and there's like chickens just like everywhere.
Like quite literally like walking around animals.
libby emmons
Oh you mean outside Chicken City, they've escaped or they're just colonizing?
tim pool
When you go into the neighborhoods in West Virginia, into like the communities,
if you're just like driving down the road, chickens are like just out.
ian crossland
I had to get out of the car and usher one off the street,
libby emmons
I was in New Hampshire recently, and we were driving around, and New Hampshire is also very beautiful, and we were driving around New Hampshire, and we had to stop short for a whole mess of turkeys.
ian crossland
That's so awesome.
tim pool
Isn't it great getting away from these awful cities where people are beating the crap out of each other?
libby emmons
We rented like a little house that had a pool.
greg price
It's crazy.
And not only do they get the crap beaten out of each other, but they'll get out of jail the next day from a Soros-funded prosecutor.
libby emmons
That's correct.
tim pool
There's also another video of people ransacking a McDonald's.
You see this one?
ian crossland
Yeah.
greg price
Wait, did you see the one where it was like, it was like some sort of like late night snack stand that these like three women- The fries thing?
Yeah, the fries.
These three like black women just trashed the place.
libby emmons
That was insane.
tim pool
It was over the cost of French fries.
greg price
No, it was sauce.
unidentified
Ridiculous.
It was the cost extra for sauce and these drunk chicks just- They like jumped up, they were like twerking on the counter.
tim pool
Yeah, and they were like just throwing- like that's not- This stuff's happening all over though, that bodega owner who fled the city.
greg price
Yeah, Jose Alba.
tim pool
Because a woman came in complaining about the price of chips or something.
greg price
Oh, no, this is a different story.
tim pool
And then, no, yeah, woman came in complaining about the price of chips or something.
Had a knife.
He said, get out.
She comes out with her boyfriend.
They start fighting.
She stabs the store owner.
He stabs the guy while they're fighting.
He gets arrested.
They let him out.
He fled.
unidentified
I think he went back to Puerto Rico or no, no, no.
ian crossland
Caribbean.
Yeah, somewhere in the Caribbean.
greg price
Didn't they like for a short time take his passport away too?
unidentified
I don't know.
libby emmons
They had him murder charges.
greg price
They put him in Rikers!
They put him in Rikers, like, in a Soros-funded- You're not allowed to talk about how George Soros spends a lot of money to elect DAs.
tim pool
Our culture has collapsed.
It's all- Look.
It used to be that people had scruples and wanted to do what was right.
It used to be that when someone committed a crime, they'd be like, we gotta stop this and try and make sure the society can function.
These days, it's just like, don't know, don't care, tell it to a judge.
That's what you get.
I remember I got pulled over when I was like 18 and a cop said I was speeding.
I wasn't speeding.
And he just says, I don't care.
Tell it to a judge.
And like, that's the way it is.
They don't know you.
They don't care about you.
And if your life is ruined, they could get- That was in Chicago?
greg price
That guy's trying to fill his quota for the month of- Oh, Chicago is so crooked.
tim pool
I got my license suspended and then I couldn't drive for a couple of years.
libby emmons
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
Because Chicago is as corrupt as they come.
You know, I really hate Chicago.
I really, really despise the place and I try to avoid going there.
I've been to so many places around the world.
I would rather be in like a Brazilian favela than Chicago.
Chicago operated black sites where they would kidnap people and torture them.
For a long time, there was a guy who was electrocuting people into forced confessions.
libby emmons
That's right.
tim pool
I've had such crazy stuff happen to me in Chicago.
I'm just like, bro, you do not want it.
libby emmons
I've never been to Chicago.
greg price
I feel the same way about my home city as well.
I'm from Philadelphia.
Philadelphia has become a mess.
Oh, you're from Philly?
libby emmons
I went to high school in Philadelphia.
greg price
Where'd you go to high school?
libby emmons
Germantown Friends.
greg price
Oh, really?
libby emmons
Yeah.
greg price
Nice, I went to Holy Ghost Prep.
unidentified
Oh, nice!
greg price
I didn't know that.
But, uh, no, but there was, like, Philadelphia, you see a crazy murder story coming out of Philadelphia at least, like, once a day.
Like, I remember there was one last week or the week before.
There was this guy who grew up in Philly, and he moved to Las Vegas, and he came home to attend a friend's funeral who had been shot and killed, because that's a thing that happens in Philly every single day, because we have a corrupt Soros-funded district attorney and a terrible mayor.
And this guy came home to attend his friend's funeral who got shot and killed, and he proceeded to get shot and killed.
libby emmons
Oh my goodness.
greg price
As he was visiting home.
And yet, so like, and like the mayor has just become a ridiculous person.
Jim Kenney, who's the mayor of Philadelphia.
You may remember when he shut down indoor dining in the city and then proceeded to go to a, get caught going to a restaurant in New Jersey.
But he, after, after the, remember the 4th of July shooting that happened?
libby emmons
That was crazy.
It was right on the, it was right on the parkway.
greg price
Yeah, so the fireworks were going on and there was a shooting like as the fireworks were happening.
So it was just a complete chaos, but they interviewed Jim.
Jim Kenny goes on local news after this and literally just says he I'm not even joking.
He says I am looking forward to not being mayor anymore.
unidentified
And it's like he really wanted out.
greg price
It's like screw you dude.
If you're not willing to deal with the realities of crime in your city by the fuck.
Are you the mayor?
libby emmons
Yeah.
unidentified
Why is he the mayor if he doesn't want to actually but what sucks is they're going to elect another mayor just like him probably keep doing it.
tim pool
Yes, you just gotta leave.
libby emmons
They need Frank Rizzo back.
tim pool
Geographic polarization will only continue to get worse.
ian crossland
The other option is militants, like more cops on the street with armored cars?
libby emmons
You know what, kind of, right?
So in the early 90s when Giuliani came in to fix up New York City, there were more cops.
Like the difference was so transparently clear.
It was sort of amazingly clear.
So I used to hang out in Washington Square Park.
It was always a total disaster.
You know, you walk through the park, whatever, everyone's offering you drugs every five minutes,
you know, as you walk through the park.
Almost overnight, there was a big mobile police unit at the bottom of the park on Washington Square South.
There were cops everywhere and suddenly you weren't getting offered drugs anymore.
You'd walk like all through downtown and it was, you know, people just kept getting pushed out to the edges, pushed out to the edges.
Finally Giuliani moved the entire red light district out to Queens.
which hasn't been great for Queens, admittedly.
But yeah, it changed overnight.
Giuliani cleaned up the city, and then Bloomberg came in and paid for everything.
And the city was great after that.
ian crossland
What do you mean paid for everything?
libby emmons
Well, we had a low crime city.
So he was able to get a lot of investment in he was able to get a lot of businesses to come back in.
Then he used all that tax money to fund big parks projects.
So he built up the outer boroughs.
He did this massive parks program.
And it was really nice.
ian crossland
I support large scale police activity if it's done judiciously.
libby emmons
They did stop and frisk.
greg price
What is like an insanely sad thing to me happening in America since the summer of love that occurred in 2020 is from like the 1990s to like through the the 2010s violent crime in America Consistently went down like you wouldn't see that like if you followed the media which constantly likes to elevate this shit You wouldn't see that but violent crime in America went down for two decades and it has gone back up over the last three years because Liberal DAs have decided to not enforce the law in order to appease rich, radical, progressive activists who don't have to deal with the realities of the policies that they advocate for.
But the people who are hurt by this and the reason Eric Adams won is because poor, you know, working class, middle working class people in New York City who actually have to deal with the realities of crime every day voted for him because he was the tough on crime candidate.
And obviously he hasn't done that, which has been a major disappointment.
But we are literally reversing decades of a decrease in violent crime in order to appease the worst elements of our society.
And it's an incredibly sad thing.
Cities, once great American cities like Chicago and like Philadelphia, are being destroyed.
And it's the saddest thing ever.
tim pool
I don't know about Chicago.
It's been run by the mob for over a hundred years.
greg price
Well, I'm just saying, like, we have great cities, like, you know, we need, like, we have great cities and they're being destroyed by this ideology.
tim pool
And I'll tell you, Chicago is great partly because of the mafia, right?
Like, some of the greatest stories about the old bank robbers and stuff, really bad stuff, really horrifying stuff.
But it creates a legend and a mythos around the city that makes it somewhat interesting.
But Chicago's reputation is and always has been pure corruption.
Okay, maybe Chicago is- Do you know why they call it the Windy City?
greg price
Because there's a lot of wind.
tim pool
Because the politicians are blowing hot air.
ian crossland
It is very windy as well.
tim pool
It's actually not.
ian crossland
It's actually no, I thought it was windy.
unidentified
Really?
No.
ian crossland
Yeah, I live there.
unidentified
Three years.
greg price
I've only been to Chicago once.
tim pool
There's wind sometimes because you have a lake.
But it's like not particularly windy.
It's like maybe slightly above average, but you wouldn't.
And it's something all of people in Chicago know.
It's called the Windy City because the politicians are lying.
That's what it is.
greg price
OK, but maybe Chicago is a bad example.
But like Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York.
No, but like Hollywood, iconic American cities that have contributed so much to our culture, you can't walk in LA anymore without stepping on a freakin' needle or in human feces.
tim pool
I do understand that point, but I also gotta point out, you know, I talk about this news article I was reading from, it was at Glenn Beck's studio, it was from like 1870 or something, and it was about a guy who was at a bar, some guy walked up to him and put a pistol to his chest and pulled the trigger.
Like, it was way worse.
was like way worse.
You would just die and stubbed your toe and you get an infection.
It's gotten way better.
The issue is it's it's getting relatively worse from where it was it.
It was really, really bad.
It got really good.
And now it's getting bad again.
And we're not okay with it.
libby emmons
And we shouldn't be No, we had a standard of living in this country, in our cities.
tim pool
Regression.
libby emmons
It has declined.
greg price
But look, what's going to happen is the people who have the means to are going to leave these cities, and the tax base goes away, and the people that get hurt the most are low-income people who don't have the means to move and are forced to deal with the realities of this every single day.
ian crossland
We need new cities, I think, too.
So people leaving, like that whole, what is it, Ayn Rand thing, where all these people went and started a new city?
I like that idea, because you can start at high tech.
greg price
Well, yeah, we still have great cities in America that people can move to.
tim pool
What was it, Galt's Gulch?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Like Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio, for instance.
Phenomenal city on the river.
tim pool
All the rich people, all the people of great merit will leave and make their own secret city.
libby emmons
Well, and no one has to go to work anymore.
Everyone can just work in there.
All the rich people can just work in their house and get Amazon drone deliveries.
ian crossland
Did you buy your Metaverse land package yet?
greg price
We just start communes of people leaving crime and cities.
libby emmons
They did that, right?
Something like New Harmony.
greg price
But you know what's really fun?
Something that I learned recently that I thought was pretty wild is that it is now more expensive to live in Miami than New York City.
And it's not because of the crazy housing policies they have in New York City, it's because so many people are moving there.
Like West Palm Beach, which is where my company is based out of and where most of my coworkers live, in order to qualify for a single apartment by yourself, you need to have, they say that the minimum salary per year you need to have is over $100,000, which is the top 2% of income earners.
tim pool
We're going to go to Super Chats.
If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and head over to TimCast.com for that uncensored After Hours show, which goes up at about 11 p.m.
And let's read.
We got this one from Jenny Cash.
Wow, the Jenny Cash, huh?
As a clanker, I have to ask, when, TF, is Styx going to be on the show?
I'm a monthly subscriber and demand this or else I'll bollocks ya.
Styx has an open invitation to come on the show whenever he wants.
unidentified
Correct.
tim pool
And we even cover travel and accommodation, so it's just an issue of The moment Styx says he's coming on the show, we will get his flights, we will get his room and board, we will buy him a fine steak dinner.
He is absolutely... I'm a big fan.
Styx is fantastic.
Smart guy.
Callie de French says, shout out to mini-desk Ian.
You the real MVP of TimCast IRL.
ian crossland
Are you talking about this guy right here?
tim pool
That's right.
He's in the vlog.
ian crossland
Look at this.
tim pool
Yeah, he made his... Ian has a miniature version of himself on his desk.
ian crossland
Thanks for sending this to me, by the way.
Whoever did that is beautiful.
lydia smith
It's like a voodoo doll.
tim pool
Countrytard says, this has to be Brett Baer's son.
greg price
So my girlfriend has been texting me because she's been watching the show and she's like, every other comment is somebody who says that you're Bret Baier's son.
And I've never heard, I've never gotten that.
I've never had someone say that I look like that before until tonight.
I've never heard that before.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Ultima Sandoval says, Wyoming beer, Melvin and Alpine, Mountain Hops and Casper, Bonds and Laramie and many, many more.
I would love to acquire me some of that good Wyoming beer and we would celebrate Wyoming doing the right thing.
The right thing for this country.
greg price
And they absolutely did.
tim pool
That's right.
lydia smith
100%.
tim pool
Right now the heroes of this country, Wyoming residents.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Except for those 28%.
I don't know what they were thinking.
greg price
I think most of them were Democrats though, because there's a big story that a lot of Democrats, like Democrats in Wyoming, like the Democrat party in Wyoming was getting a lot of Democrats to register as Republicans so they could vote for Liz Cheney.
libby emmons
Oh, we were talking about that before.
tim pool
This is actually interesting.
Anwar Abu Bakr says, doesn't that mean Liz Cheney planned on losing?
If she referenced the loss of Abraham Lincoln and her speech immediately after losing, I can't imagine she didn't already have the speech planned.
And the great task is already up, which requires development with a logo.
You don't just, look, you don't just one day wake up and say, hey, can I get a website that shows these things?
Can fundraise?
Has these looks?
No, that takes a couple of weeks.
ian crossland
They usually plan a loss and a win, and they'll have t-shirts printed for both or whatever.
greg price
Like I said earlier, she gave up a long time ago in being re-elected.
She treated this whole thing as a grift to raise money for an eventual presidential run that will also be a giant grift and nobody will vote for her, except probably in the Beltway.
tim pool
Don't even know who that is.
Trump yells nuclear ultra MAGA whenever he goes Super Saiyan 3. That's right, 3. He skips
right over 1 and 2. Really now says still waiting on Libby to agree to get dinner with
unidentified
me. Yeah, Libby, what are you doing? Libby, what? Don't even know who that is. Come on,
Libby. Unnecessary risk. All right.
tim pool
Amos Moses says Ian said in February he was going to start going to the gym and get jacked.
We want meathead Ian and buff pool.
ian crossland
I think about I lost a lot of weight, you know, so I do the occasional plank.
I plank hard when I plank.
tim pool
I think, I think, I think, Ian, you gotta start lifting.
ian crossland
I know, dude.
I've been thinking that for 20 years.
tim pool
But just imagine what it'll be like, it's like, in January, people watching the show just see, like, just super, just jacked in.
ian crossland
That's the thing, because they'll be like, I hate this guy, he's so annoying, I don't understand it, and then they see me with my shirt off, and they're like, oh... No, but what'll happen is, when you start lifting, you'll get a massive increase in testosterone, and then all of a sudden... I'll be more commanding on stage.
unidentified
Yeah, and you'll just be like, yeah, Trump, fix it!
ian crossland
Here's the solution!
I wouldn't be angry about it.
libby emmons
You could do the Mussolini thing.
greg price
You could just Roy it up too.
libby emmons
I think they provide that at the Children's Hospital if you think that it's part of your gender identity.
tim pool
Dapper McStache says Ian Newsweek reports the laser ignition facility in California just confirmed its first ever self-sustaining ignition.
Self-sustaining ignition.
ian crossland
Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt the last part of that.
tim pool
Fusion on the way.
You excited yet?
ian crossland
I'm extremely excited, but the thing about fusion, it's been on the way for 30 years, and it would be very disruptive to the power structure if everyone had their own unlimited power supply.
But I am very excited about it.
Now, you said it's consistent ignition.
I thought they were able to ignite it, then it went back up.
unidentified
Self-sustaining.
ian crossland
Self-sustaining, meaning it's on.
But that was like a year ago?
libby emmons
No, no, they recently did a new thing.
It was in Newsweek.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's like... Yeah, they were able to recreate that first thing.
tim pool
But ignition that ultimately fizzles out is different from a self-sustaining, like, keeping it going.
ian crossland
Self-sustaining nuclear fusion.
Science alert from yesterday.
That's huge, man.
But now they can't replicate it.
See, this is what they said.
Yeah, that's what the article says.
This is titled the article.
libby emmons
Well, I think it was last week.
And so now they tried it again and they couldn't do it.
ian crossland
This is just an article from yesterday.
I'm definitely gonna read it.
libby emmons
I was reading about this like last week.
tim pool
It's normal.
Yeah, you'll try a bunch of things.
One will work.
Okay, what did I do?
Like, how did that happen?
ian crossland
And they also with high tech military tech, they'll do something like we went to the moon.
We don't think it can be replicated.
Just so no one else tries to do it.
Because as soon as everyone starts doing it, then we've got...
tim pool
It's like an Iron Man when he's telling everybody they can't have the arc reactor, but then that dude from Russia shows up with the arc reactor and starts screwing everybody up in Monaco.
It's exactly like, you know, Marvel analogies.
Just got to do it, you know what I mean?
ian crossland
Just shove it in.
tim pool
That's right.
Pop culture reference right there.
All right.
What do we have?
What do we have?
Some super chats.
Okay.
Okay, Paul Fongham says, notice that Tim sometimes references South Park
and he plays Magic the Gathering.
Tim also owns chickens.
If you get the, if you understand the episode I'm thinking of, you should do Chicken City short
called Chicken Magic.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
Do you guys know that episode of South Park?
No.
greg price
I haven't watched South Park.
tim pool
The roosters, they're having roosters play Magic the Gathering against each other underground.
Yeah, like, like illegal cockfighting.
ian crossland
Oh.
tim pool
All right.
Let's see.
Slane Hope says, Ian, conquering people is in our nature.
Denying that is to deny the history of humanity.
Morality and humanity aren't as compatible as some would like to believe.
That's why people go to church.
ian crossland
Thank you for bringing that up.
People, all these people talking about being pro-life and that they're pro-life and obsessed with babies that are one week old.
Like, where's your anti-war stance if you're pro-life?
Where are you caring about the people in Afghanistan that were left behind when we surrendered?
tim pool
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
ian crossland
Talk about pro-life.
tim pool
Those people overwhelmingly are against leaving people behind.
ian crossland
I want to hear them talk about it.
libby emmons
What about capital punishment?
ian crossland
They do!
I would like to hear them make that the focus of the conversation.
libby emmons
If you're pro-life, shouldn't you be opposed to capital punishment?
ian crossland
Yes.
But the thing is, to be extreme in all situations that I will protect life at all costs makes no sense.
tim pool
This is why at TimCast.com we don't use pro-life or pro-choice.
We say pro-abortion or anti-abortion.
Because they're used in that context.
The challenge with pro-life is, for one, if you're trying to use it as an absolute statement, then fine, you should impose a death penalty.
But people who are pro-life are typically trying to say that they would protect life at all costs, except when an individual has taken it, like someone on death row.
So the argument is, you can be pro-life, but agree that someone who committed a crime and through due process has forfeited theirs.
libby emmons
But another problem with the death penalty, though, is that there have been a remarkable number of cases that have shown that the person who was executed or on death row didn't actually do it.
So we do not have a perfect justice system, which means we should not be taking life on its basis.
tim pool
I just put it this way, I don't think people like Kamala Harris would be the arbiter of who gets to live and die.
libby emmons
She shouldn't be the arbiter of literally who gets a sandwich with mayo and who gets one with mustard.
tim pool
Just thinking about death row in general, a lot of people talk about the very, very severe, harsh standard to actually get someone the death penalty.
And I'm still just like, I get it man.
You know, if I saw, I have no problem with, in defense of others or yourself, you know, taking someone else's life.
It's unfortunate, it's tragic, we don't want it to happen.
But if some dude is about to like kill a kid or whatever, you gotta stop him.
You gotta save him.
You gotta stop the aggressor.
But if you've already stopped them, you know, then I'm just like, the issue for me is I totally get that person, you know, did something bad and is trying to do it again and you stopped him.
My challenge is when I walk into a courtroom and it's someone like Kamala Harris going, trust me, that guy's bad and should die.
I'll be like, no, I don't trust you.
You're nuts.
Kamala Harris?
greg price
And Ian, I just want to point out that I am both pro-life and very anti-neocon and anti-war.
The neocons stuck and we need to purge them from society in general.
ian crossland
The Yemen, the sales of weapons to Saudi Arabia by Trump really disturbs me because they are just slaughtering the Yemeni people.
I mean, there's mass starvation.
libby emmons
The Yemenis have like 50% of their population or something is like under 25 or something.
ian crossland
Because the rest have starved to death?
libby emmons
Yeah.
And there was war and the whole thing.
tim pool
We got a good one.
Triton 54.
We gotta get an award for this.
He says, breaking news.
After her monumental defeat in an effort to minimize her carbon footprint and become more appealing to climate activists, Liz Cheney was seen riding her broomstick from DC back to Wyoming.
greg price
That's a good one!
I would revise that to say she rode her broomstick from Wyoming back to suburban Virginia where she's lived her entire life.
tim pool
Dan9S says, Tim, you're wrong.
In general, parents should be allowed to determine the best for their children, but that isn't without limits.
Example, we allow parents to discipline but not to abuse.
My point was like, to Democrats, if you don't give a vaccine to your kid, you're abusing them and you're a dangerous anti-vaxxer and the government should take your kids away.
And to the right, if you're giving them sex change surgery, quite literally the same thing, you're abusing them, the government should intervene.
The point is, you have... Look, I clearly think the left is wrong, but you have disparate worldviews, and the question about when the government gets to intervene is a scary one, because that will be used against you at some point.
I mean, it literally is being used against parents right now.
In Texas, with the younger thing, where they take the guy's kid from him.
Or they try to.
That's scary stuff, man.
libby emmons
Well, and in D.C., if you don't get your kid vaccinated, your kid can't go to school.
greg price
Which is like, remember when Georgia was passing their voting law and Biden was saying that this makes Jim Crow look like Jim Eagle?
40% of black students in D.C.
are not going to be allowed to go back to school this fall.
Is that not making Jim Crow look like Jim Eagle?
And there was a reporter from the Daily Signal who asked Muriel Bowser about this the other day.
His name is Douglas Blair.
And she was basically like, I don't, that's not true.
What you're saying is lie.
And it was literally, he was literally citing numbers from DC saying that 40% of black kids in DC are unvaccinated.
tim pool
John Marafa says, Tim, Charlie Kirk posted a training video of armed IRS agents.
You will not believe.
No, I saw that.
Did you guys see that?
greg price
Yeah, I saw that.
That was going around everywhere.
tim pool
The IRS criminal investigation division or whatever.
And they're doing a training video where they walk in and they're like, don't move.
And it's like two guys with like fake weapons being like, what's going on?
I'm not moving.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
All right.
Philip Vecchio says that part that was part of the plot of the original Manchurian Candidate, the son in an incestuous relationship with his mother played by Angela Lansbury.
lydia smith
Gross.
unidentified
Wow.
Awful.
tim pool
Awful.
libby emmons
Angela Lansbury is great, though.
tim pool
Cody Bridger says, in most cases, the parents are just as much of the victims as their children.
It is the doctors who are abusive for performing mutilation on minors.
What happened to do no harm?
So, what an interesting question.
I mean, there are some cultures.
You know, I'll throw it to the Orville reference we mentioned before.
Seth MacFarlane did an episode where one alien race performs sex change surgery on girls because they don't have girls on their planet because they forced transition them.
And they say, you know, the alien guy says, if a child was born with a cleft lip, would you not correct it?
We view it the exact same way.
And so, you know, with this, you have genital mutilation in a bunch of countries where, like, female circumcision and things like that are considered wrong, must be stopped.
We saw a wave of that happening in, I think in Dearborn?
In the Dearborn area?
greg price
I'm not sure.
I loved Matt Walsh's documentary, What is a Woman?, when he went to that random African tribe and asked them what they thought about the idea that men could become women and they were just laughing at him.
tim pool
So I guess the issue is, you know, circumcision in general, be it male or female.
greg price
Well, so did you see that Andrew Sullivan tweet from like yesterday?
So Andrew Sullivan, the former New York Times reporter, he was like, what do all the people who disagree with sex changes think about circumcision?
And he got like monumentally racial.
Cause like, I don't think both, I don't, I think those are two pretty different things.
ian crossland
But it is a form of, well, you could argue genital.
I mean, it is a, I don't know if mutilation is the right word, but you're cutting up a baby's penis without it's, the kid's not like asking for it.
tim pool
And it's a parent's decision.
And like half the nerves are removed.
ian crossland
And it's an old process from 2000 years ago when it was a cleanliness thing.
Like it would become too dirty and then they'd get infected.
So they had to remove the outer layer of skin.
So it was easier to clean.
I think that's the purpose.
tim pool
That might be what they say, but I don't know if it's that specific.
ian crossland
Now it's just like a tradition.
I don't even know what it does.
greg price
But I think that would be similar to saying, like, if you're in favor of haircuts, do you also support decapitation?
I think those are two kind of different things.
tim pool
All right, let's read this one.
Sorry Forlot says, Tim, your Nancy Pelosi impression is my favorite thing in the world.
greg price
Let's hear it.
I haven't heard it.
unidentified
Donald Trump is a disgusting, awful man and he needs to be impeached.
I will not stand for this.
ian crossland
It's getting older in real time.
greg price
She's older than she was a year ago.
You gotta do the thing where her dentures are falling out too.
tim pool
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to simulate.
unidentified
My teeth are falling out while I'm talking.
Okay, now I can tell you about Donald Trump.
He's so awful.
Now I'm going to go trade some stocks.
Now I'm going to go trade stocks and become rich on a $170,000 a year salary somehow.
greg price
Also, I was like, Pablo, is he going to get charged with the DUI or do you think he's going to have his charges dropped?
tim pool
Oh, he got charged, didn't he?
greg price
Did he get charged?
libby emmons
I don't remember.
tim pool
I thought he got charged.
I don't know.
Wasn't the story that he was drunk and someone hit him?
unidentified
He hit a jeep.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure.
libby emmons
Yeah, he hit a jeep with his Porsche.
I'm pretty sure.
tim pool
You want to pull that up?
libby emmons
Yeah, we should check that out.
tim pool
Because I thought it was a case of like he was driving drunk and then someone hit him and that makes it his fault because he was drunk.
You know what I mean?
Like if you're drunk and you're pulling out and someone hits you, it's your fault.
You know what I mean?
I don't know.
Yeah, maybe he hit somebody.
All right.
Let's see.
A free thinking dog says no man would request a woman to get an abortion.
greg price
Agreed.
tim pool
I saw that viral meme where it's like progressive men aren't men as exemplified by the face on the hands thing.
You see that one?
lydia smith
Yeah, I saw that.
tim pool
Like there's like a it's like a picture of a shocking moment and the women and like some of the men are going like with their hands over their mouths.
And I was like, I don't know.
You know, I mentioned this before when I was flying on a plane from Wellington to Auckland and we got hit by like 70 mile an hour winds and the plane fell like 100 feet or something.
All of the women on the plane instantly started screaming at the top of their lungs.
Not a single man screamed.
And I was like, huh, made me think.
libby emmons
I screamed when there was a stink bug on the mic one time.
tim pool
Why is that?
libby emmons
I don't know.
tim pool
Men and women are different.
Women scream, men don't scream.
I read that women on average cry once a month and men on average cry once a year.
libby emmons
Once a month, that's it.
tim pool
I gotta be honest, I can't remember the last time I cried about anything.
unidentified
I'm pretty sure I cried last week.
libby emmons
I don't even know why.
tim pool
Ian, when was the last time you cried?
ian crossland
It was on the show like a month ago when I was talking about God.
I was starting to feel it, but it wasn't like I wasn't deeply like losing it or anything.
tim pool
Yeah, what about you, Greg?
greg price
I'm going to make my group chat with my friends laugh out loud right now because the last time I cried is when my friend Jordan Chamberlain and Will Chamberlain, you've had them on their show.
At their wedding.
I cried during their wedding because it was a gorgeous wedding and Jordan's one of my best friends.
So I was like, Jordy's getting married.
unidentified
This is so adorable.
libby emmons
No, I cried watching a video of my son when he was little saying something with his little cute kid voice.
That's what it was.
And then I showed it to him and then he cried.
unidentified
All right, Psycho Tater says... But it was my fault because I was crying and then that made him upset.
tim pool
I would like to point out that I have used Ian's graphene plan to change the minds of at least three climate activists.
So thank you, Ian, for pointing that out.
And thank all of you.
This show is my favorite source of actual news.
Thank you very much.
ian crossland
That's fantastic.
So you changed three people's minds.
That's a good, that's a good ratio.
greg price
That's how it all starts.
tim pool
That's the real power of graphene.
To change hearts and minds.
ian crossland
Yeah, so what would the person is referencing, I don't know why I thought it was a she, he or she is referencing, is that we can pull the carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere and convert it into graphene by running it through, well there's different ways to do it, you can deposit it onto a metal like gold, palladium, or copper, or you could run it through, there's another chemical I think that we're working on right now, I've been working with a company that does it, you can also take the methane out of the air, convert it into carbon dioxide, and then turn that into graphene.
tim pool
All right, C says, the soul is gendered.
It travels here from a distance.
When a baby is aborted, the soul cannot join the body.
The soul joins the next available body and therefore transgender population increases.
Interesting.
I have an idea for a horror movie that sounds like something a conservative or Christian group would make, but no, like actual Hollywood production company would make.
And so I'm gonna give you guys my pitch.
So here's how the movie starts.
It's late.
9 p.m., 10 p.m.
It's dark.
Office building.
30th floor.
Corner office.
You can see the windows.
An older woman is working in the office, and she's clearly working late and putting in those hours because she wants that promotion.
And then as she's working and taking a phone call, you see a figure walk past her door.
It's totally dark, right?
The lights are off, the office is closed, but she's working late.
And a figure walks past the door.
The hallway door just like the door to the to the room full of cubicles and whatever in her corner office because she's
she's a Working woman. She's a corner office, you know, she got
promotion and then she's sitting there and then while she's working
She's like writing things down and typing the figure walks by again and she notices and she goes
Hello She gets up and she looks around. She doesn't see anything
and she goes back to work and then she's typing and she's looking down
this figure walks into the room and starts walking towards her and
And then, finally, the shadow in the light starts coming over and she looks up.
And it is a human body, pure white with no face, no expression, no features, just like a white, almost like plastic-looking entity.
And it looks at her and just goes, and then it cuts to the start of the movie.
And here's the premise of the movie.
Souls are supposed to be on the planet for a certain amount of time.
Mass abortion is a new phenomenon.
And so the souls that were supposed to develop into lives and create, generate personalities and experiences were severed from those bodies by being killed early.
So whereas a ghost is created when a person is killed in an untimely fashion, And they have unfinished business.
The souls that were never able to actually exist and be born start growing and expanding as personalityless souls.
And then over time, people start reporting more and more sightings of these strange figures being seen throughout the city.
And then in the end, there's just like a mass immersion of these strange entities all over the place and people are freaking out and society is collapsing.
You know it's funny because I think it's like a cool idea but it's so pro-life that like I'm sure the left would vomit and then no Hollywood company would go anywhere near it.
ian crossland
The only issue I've got is that I don't think mass abortions are new.
I think it's been happening since the dawn of time and now we have a spotlight on it.
libby emmons
Well there used to be more infanticide too.
tim pool
Yeah, but it is new.
ian crossland
Procedural, like... Yeah, like, I think... Easier?
greg price
Right.
So, maternal survival rates, until the early 1900s, were very low.
And so, a lot of women and babies would die in childbirth.
That was more prevalent back then.
ian crossland
And you're pointing out, Libby, that they would give birth and then kill the infant right away, rather than try and do anything internal?
I get it.
That makes sense.
tim pool
Alright, let's grab some more superchats.
Somebody wants to make that movie.
I think it's a cool concept for like a horror film.
greg price
Libby, is your ego blowing up right now at the amount of superchats of people telling you you're beautiful?
I'm like reading them and every other is like, Libby, you're so beautiful.
libby emmons
That's very kind.
tim pool
Stacy Strickland says, what came first, the chicken or the egg?
The egg.
It's a definitive answer.
libby emmons
But did you ever hear what Mother Teresa said about abortion when she was asked why Jesus hadn't come again?
And she said, God, she said, or whatever she said, like, you keep aborting him.
unidentified
Oh, jeez.
lydia smith
Spicy.
tim pool
So just to clarify on the egg thing, the way evolution works, the modern chicken came from an egg from a not, like, yeah, it's like there's a slow change process where, so the egg has been around for a very, like, first of all, eggs have been around before chickens.
So if you're talking generally about eggs, but in terms of chicken egg, chicken evolved in the, like, in the process of being bred.
There you go.
Answer.
To your question.
ian crossland
Like the first chicken was a mutation inside of an egg?
tim pool
Right, exactly.
So there was like a choking, which had a mutant, smaller, weird looking thing that we call a chicken.
Actually, it was the, I think the red jungle fowl was what ultimately we turned into the chicken.
So the egg came first and then we started selectively breeding until chickens came out.
ian crossland
I'm gaining an unexpected amount of joy of your knowledge of chickens these days.
tim pool
These days?
I've known a lot about chickens forever, man.
ian crossland
Oh, really?
tim pool
Yeah, so here's how it happened.
In Southeast Asia, I think it's the red jungle fowl, I could be wrong, the reason they lay eggs every day is because they evolved in bamboo forests where once every 50 years there's a blossom and all the seeds fall down at once and there's food everywhere.
So what would happen is the jungle fowl, the population would explode with the mass amount of food and then slowly start falling and then explode.
And the first that happened was they were domesticated to fight each other for entertainment.
The males would be taken and then they'd make them fight.
But eventually word made its way across Asia that there was a bird that laid an egg every single day and actually became like a symbol, like almost a religious symbol because it produced an egg every day.
And then people were like, you know, if you just give it food, it will lay an egg every single day.
And it's like, that's actually pretty awesome because we like eating them.
And so then this is like, I think around like the 900s, 80 or whatever.
Then they started turning them into like an actual staple farm, you know, animal.
ian crossland
Gosh, I can't imagine life without chickens.
tim pool
Silkies, one of the first breeds.
Yeah.
The fluffy ones.
libby emmons
Those are cute.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And they're, they have five toes and their, their, their, their chicken meat is actually black.
unidentified
Wow.
libby emmons
And their skin is blue.
Weird.
How do they taste?
Have you eaten them?
tim pool
I've not eaten one.
And they're fluffy.
We have, we actually have a bunch.
libby emmons
Interesting.
tim pool
Yeah, you know, chickens, man.
Chicken society is a crazy thing.
Chicken society.
What is that about?
put him in with a regular with another rooster will pack his
unidentified
head and kill him right away. Yeah, yeah, you know, chickens,
tim pool
man. Chicken Society is a crazy thing. Chicken Society jukebox says brought up NDA a whistleblower from DoD on the
unidentified
15th. What is that about? I'm not sure. All right.
greg price
We love, we love our based whistleblowers though.
tim pool
Ryan Kirchmeyer says, real men coerce women not to get abortions.
I did that best thing I ever did.
He's now 10.
She's glad I did too.
Would have been her third.
The other two were not me.
unidentified
Wow.
greg price
So that is, so those are the stories that we hear about all the time that the media and Democrats never talk about.
And they're always beautiful stories.
So good on you, man.
That's, that's awesome.
tim pool
Yeah.
I mean, a dude saying like, he's going to take responsibility and protect the woman and help raise the kid.
That's what a real man would do.
ian crossland
Nah, I had a situation where a girl, I was dating a girl and she got pregnant and she told me she was going to leave me and abort the kid in the middle of a fight.
And I was like, abort it now.
Don't wait.
Don't, don't hold it over my head.
Don't threaten me and kill it before it grows a brain.
Cause it was like two weeks old or something.
libby emmons
Yikes.
ian crossland
It was horrifying.
And then it died on its own.
greg price
That's sad.
ian crossland
It heard my voice.
libby emmons
That's awful.
greg price
I'm sorry.
libby emmons
I'm sorry about that.
Yeah.
tim pool
All right.
Patriot Tech says, 50 years of moral relativism taught in our schools, endless wars killing our best patriotic youth, and churches that are businesses and not preaching biblical values.
Yes, culture is collapsing.
You see that video of the preacher being like, you couldn't even give me your McDonald's money?
Your Red Lobster money?
See that one?
He was like yelling at his congregation because they didn't give him enough money and he wanted to buy a watch or something like that.
Then he issued an apology.
At least that's how it was reported.
Yup.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, the regressive left.
I think Bill Maher just talked about the regressive left for like the first time ever.
And it's kind of funny to hear him say it like 10 years after the phrase is like moved out of, or you know, like seven years.
He said, he did a bit about what's going on with wokeness and he says, this is regressive.
And I was like, Bill finally said it.
greg price
He said the line.
unidentified
Throwback.
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, he's late to the party, but you know.
lydia smith
Always late.
tim pool
Lumpy says, women have all the control when it comes to abortion, men have none.
Your claim Libby is unfounded unless men have suddenly gained the right to financially abort children.
I love you Libby, but when it comes to abortion, women have all the choice.
libby emmons
I beg to differ.
tim pool
Well, I mean, it's legally true.
libby emmons
Sure, sure.
tim pool
But like in terms of, you know, human bonding, a woman still has the right to choose.
Like, the guy can coerce her and she could say yes or no.
libby emmons
Do you guys, I mean, okay, just, do you guys have any idea how much influence a man in a romantic partnership has over the woman that he's with?
Regardless of anything she says about like, I'm in charge of everything in my own life.
Do you have any idea?
You may have absolutely no idea.
Ask any woman.
She'll let you know.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure men are in relationships.
I've been in relationships, and I know the degree of control that I have.
libby emmons
You may not.
tim pool
But it varies.
libby emmons
Okay, sure.
It varies.
tim pool
There are some relationships where the women do whatever they want, and like Ian mentioned, they might be like, I'm going to go do this.
You can't stop me.
libby emmons
Yeah, there's many women that I know who have been coerced into abortions by men that they love.
This happens.
lydia smith
One of the top reasons.
libby emmons
This happens a lot.
unidentified
But the ultimate point is... Regardless of what the law says.
regardless of what regardless of the man's rights regardless of anything
tim pool
because Ultimately the man can say whatever he wants the woman can
always just say I'll do whatever I want Yeah, sure sort of man still has absolutely no control
other than the person. Yeah He can try to convince the woman but the woman can say yes
ian crossland
or no You might be right cuz like men are genetically prone to
impregnate lots of women This is just for the propagation of the species tens of thousands of years ago.
And so it's probably easier for them to disconnect and be like, whatever.
But the girl, you're saying that there's more of like a, I can't let go of this man, like this man is part of me now kind of mind?
libby emmons
Are you kidding?
Yes.
Are you kidding?
Like, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a thing.
unidentified
But that's still not like...
tim pool
A woman choosing to maintain a bond is different from not having control.
libby emmons
I'm not saying she doesn't have control.
I'm not saying coercion means you don't have control.
You can be coerced, right?
You can be coerced into something even if you, you know, feel like you're in control the whole time.
Many women that I know have been coerced into abortions.
There's nothing we can do to change that that's true.
Like, that's just true.
I mean, that's just actually true.
And yes, like, it's – have you ever read the statistics on women leaving abusive relationships?
It typically takes seven tries for a woman to leave an abusive relationship.
It takes a whole lot of stuff just in a practical sense, but emotionally, it's an excruciatingly difficult process to disentangle from someone that you're in love with who treats you badly.
Like, this happens over and over again.
All right.
It's real.
That's real.
greg price
In my world, we castrate all the men who do that.
libby emmons
Well, you know what?
There'd be like, a lot of dickless individuals walking around.
greg price
There are a lot of dicks.
tim pool
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greg price
Yeah, my Twitter account's Greg underscore Price11 and Greg dot Price11 on Instagram.
You know, we're, I'm, you know, deep into the fight for the midterms, fight to take back the house and elect a lot of America first candidates.
So follow me to keep track of all that because that's, that's what I do every single day.
libby emmons
I'm Libby Emmons.
You can find me at The Post Millennial.
Also, you can check out our opinion columns at humanevents.com.
I'm at Libby Emmons on Twitter and Libby dot Emmons on Instagram.
ian crossland
I'm Ian Crossland.
I love you all so much.
I love you.
greg price
We love you too, Ian.
ian crossland
Make it real!
greg price
Do we not love Ian?
ian crossland
For all the farmers.
greg price
Imagine not loving Ian.
ian crossland
Bring that rain.
Love yourself.
lydia smith
That's right.
ian crossland
And the rest will follow.
lydia smith
And we are using our NPR voices to say goodbye, so thank you all very much for tuning in this evening.
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tim pool
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