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Timcast IRL - GOP Turnout SHATTERS Records As Democrats QUIT Party And Vote Republican w/Will Witt
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unidentified
you you
tim pool
you so we got the numbers out of Georgia for the turnout in the
GOP primary and it is almost double the numbers from the previous midterm in
2018.
Almost double.
And I saw that and I thought to myself, how do you go from 600,000 Republican voters to 1.1 million?
Well, there's a couple ways you can do it.
You can destroy the economy.
You can send $62 billion to an Eastern European war.
You can pull security off the southern border and have a bunch of illegal immigrants flood the country.
You can then put many of those younger illegal immigrants on planes and fly them around the country in the cover of night, much to the chagrin of many Republicans.
Those are ways you can do it.
But something else happens when you do that.
Not only do you rile up Republicans to come out and vote nearly double the numbers, you convince a bunch of Democrats to switch parties.
And that's what it looks like is happening.
There is from the AJC.com, the Atlantic Journal-Constitution, I believe it is, 7% swing.
So about 7% of Democrats, between 7 and 10%, switched from Democrat to Republican in this primary.
Now, that's massive, but that doesn't account for the entirety of all of the Republicans coming out to vote.
This is what I've been saying.
It's not going to be a red wave.
If these numbers hold, if this is the trend we're seeing, it's not even going to be a red tsunami.
It is going to be a red great flood, and the Democrats will need to prepare their arc now because they're going to get wiped out of federal government and possibly even state government.
Stacey Abrams is saying she's going to be the governor.
If 7-10% of Democrats have flipped parties, you're not winning anything.
So these are huge numbers, but there's a lot that's gonna happen between now and then, so we will see.
We got a bunch of other news as well.
Beto O'Rourke is just a nasty guy.
He stood up at a press conference for this tragedy in Texas and starts yelling some political nonsense about the governor, and parents were booing him.
Like, dude...
That's inappropriate, so we'll talk about that.
Plus, we got Joe Biden.
He said something about deers wearing Kevlar again, and everyone's just facepalming like, dude, come on, you know?
So we got to talk about that.
We got George Soros saying that the war in Europe with Ukraine could be the end of civilization.
Certainly, we have a lot of things to talk about.
AOC says she wants to get rid of her Tesla because Elon Musk said she was hitting on him.
Walmart's apologizing for selling Juneteenth ice cream.
Oh man, there's a lot going on.
Joining us to talk about all this, we got a couple people, but we have Will Witt.
Introduce yourself, good sir.
unidentified
I'm Will Witt.
Live in Los Angeles, California.
Worked for PragerU for about the last five years.
25 years old.
160 pounds.
Anything else?
What's your sign?
I think Virgo.
tim pool
Virgo?
You're not sure?
unidentified
Yeah, I don't wear crystals and those kind of things.
tim pool
Well, there you go.
What do you do?
Like, what's your official role?
unidentified
Yeah, so basically at PragerU, I'm a political commentator.
I create a lot of the man-on-the-street videos you guys have ever seen for PragerU.
National best-selling author of How to Win Friends and Influence Enemies.
Done a couple short documentaries.
Podcasting.
All sorts of different hats that I've done.
So, marketing, social media.
Anything really to help the conservative movement and to help truth with PragerU, that's what I do.
tim pool
Cool.
We also have Ava.
unidentified
Yes.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Yes, I'm first and foremost Wilwit's fiancé.
lydia smith
Congratulations.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Thank you, thank you.
I'm a lawyer, I'm from the Netherlands, and I write, I'm a political commentator right over there, but I mean, everything's international nowadays, so I talk a lot about, well, basically everything.
tim pool
I actually only got your first name, that's why I only said your first name.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Yeah, that's fine.
unidentified
Vlaardingerbroek?
eva vlaardingerbroek
I can say it, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, what is it?
eva vlaardingerbroek
It's Vlaardingerbroek.
unidentified
Oh!
ian crossland
Vlaardingerbroek.
unidentified
Yeah.
eva vlaardingerbroek
I mean, you can say it, Vlaardingerbroek.
That's how Tucker Carlson said it.
tim pool
What does it mean?
eva vlaardingerbroek
Basically, Vlaardingen is a... Broek itself means pants, but not in this context.
Vlaardingen is a city in the south of the Netherlands and Broek is sort of a swampy area near that city.
So, there you go.
Swampy area.
unidentified
That's my last name.
ian crossland
That you would wear pants in if you were in the area?
So you'd get leeches on your leg or something?
eva vlaardingerbroek
Well, in this context, it has nothing to do with pants.
But Broek, in and of itself, is also pants.
That's wild.
There you go.
ian crossland
It's got kind of a breathy sound to it, that language.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Well, wait till you hear our G's.
They're not so breathy.
ian crossland
Give me one.
Yeah, like that?
unidentified
Good morning.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Good morning.
ian crossland
What's up, everybody?
Ian Crossland, happy to be here.
Let's roll this over to Lydia.
What are you thinking, Liz?
lydia smith
Thanks, Ian.
I'm here in the corner.
I'm excited to have my lady, as always.
This was an unexpected surprise, and I'm delighted to have some international conversation tonight.
tim pool
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Now, let's get into that first big story.
I'm going to start with this tweet from Ryan James Gerduski.
He says, Georgia GOP primary turnout by year.
In 2018, 608,380.
unidentified
In 2022, 1,109,506.
tim pool
That is almost double.
608,380 in 2022, 1,109,506.
That is almost double.
So as I mentioned in the intro to this show, for those that didn't see it,
there's a lot of ways you can accomplish that.
You know, I was saying, like, destroying the economy is one of those ways.
I think that certainly shocked a bunch of people.
$5 a gallon gasoline is going to get a lot of people to the polls.
But I also think it's going to get a lot of Democrats to switch, and that's a contributing factor.
Check this out.
From the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, data shows thousands of Democrats voting in GOP primary.
They say 7% of Georgia voters who cast a GOP ballot previously polled a Democratic ballot two years ago.
If that's true, and you actually go down and look at the Democrat numbers, it looks like Democrats dropped by about 7%.
Republicans jumped by about 7%.
So it looks like Democrats may have dropped anywhere from 7% to 10%.
Republicans jumped 7%.
unidentified
Well, they're trying to say that that's some ploy by the Democrats to make it get the candidates that they want and all that kind of stuff.
I mean, that's nonsense.
It's nonsense.
The thing that really matters about this that, you know, I live in Los Angeles, California, and people are going to be liberal there until the world ends.
It's going to be an apocalyptic leftist nightmare forever.
And so what I think is important is that it's about the children.
I think that this is the most about the schools, what's happening with the transgender movement and what's happening with our education system.
I think we saw what happened in Virginia.
And I think that if we continue on the path as conservatives hammering on education, then we're going to be able to continue to switch voters.
You switch independent voters, you switch Democrat voters over to Republican.
And if you have Republicans who come out and say, listen, my number one priority is education.
My number one priority is your kids.
Because the left thinks that the schools own your kids.
The parents shouldn't have a say in your kids' lives.
If conservatives and Republicans keep pushing on that, then you will win.
You will switch people over.
tim pool
I think it might have been James Lindsay who said this, that the Democrats are turning parents into a voting bloc.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
That's just crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
I mean, I'm speaking at all these rallies, all these different things, especially, again, in California.
You know, whether they're COVID rallies or education rallies.
And I've said this a thousand times before, this is a revolution of normal people.
Like these people who come to these rallies, they're not the people who are going to the 2016 Trump rallies, you know, MAGA and their hats on and everything with Confederate flags.
These are parents who just said, I'm fed up with this nonsense.
I'm going to, I want to change my community.
tim pool
That was true in 2016.
I went to a bunch of these Trump rallies, we've talked about it tons of times, where the people I met were like, I'm not a Republican.
I've never voted Republican.
I remember I was in Fort Lauderdale and I was talking to some middle-aged woman and she was so excited.
She had her kids and they were about to watch Trump speak.
And so I was just asking people covering the rally, like, what's your position?
You know, are you a Republican?
She's like, oh no, no, I've never voted before.
She's like, no one's ever spoken to me the way Trump has when talking about these issues that affect my community.
And I was like, wow.
So we saw that.
We saw Trump lit up areas that just people wouldn't turn out for.
ian crossland
Right.
At the same time, the Democratic Party, I mean, they basically immolated.
They ruined Bernie Sanders in 2016 with the Hillary Clinton DNC scandal, where they colluded, essentially, when the emails came out, you could find, to keep him from getting the nomination.
And then again in 2020, when it looked like Bernie Sanders was hot, and then all of a sudden Biden appears out of nowhere, and they put this near-demented guy, this 79-year-old man or 78-year-old man into office.
I have my faith in that and the leadership of that party is gone compared to where it was 15, 20 years ago.
And you made a good point about education.
That was what I thought at the top of the show and Tim was leading us in.
I think that's a big, big part of this is the education is that kids have been getting put in this government facilities and without oversight are being indoctrinated, essentially.
And it's people have had it.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, they should put cameras in all the classrooms.
tim pool
The number is doubling.
I mean, that's crazy.
It's almost doubling the amount of GOP turnout.
That's crazy.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Isn't it a lot of COVID as well?
I mean, the way that they handled all the COVID restrictions that normal people who wouldn't say, oh, I'm necessarily Republican are fed up with the way that they handled that.
I mean, that goes beyond politics as well.
tim pool
I think I really do just think all of those things are an issue, but the economy.
It's the economy, stupid, is the famous quote.
unidentified
Well, they did polls on it, yeah.
They show the jobs and the economy.
I mean, I hope that MSNBC just keeps talking about January 6th and insurrection and all those kind of things, because that doesn't mean anything to people.
tim pool
You know what?
There's one thing that did it.
ian crossland
The Federal Reserve.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
unidentified
There's one thing.
That's a jail, right?
tim pool
One thing.
All of you at home participated in it.
And do you know what that one thing was that caused this big shift?
Putting those little stickers of Joe Biden pointing at gas prices, saying, I did that.
unidentified
Yeah!
tim pool
How many regular people went to the gas pump and they went, what?
And then they saw Joe Biden.
I did that.
And then they... He did do that.
He did do that!
unidentified
He did!
tim pool
Five bucks.
ian crossland
Yeah, I err on the side of that the economy was on its way down anyway with this mass printing of money since 2008 and Obama bailed out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
But Biden shutting down the pipelines Definitely accelerated the process.
unidentified
Since the meeting at Jekyll Island.
ian crossland
Yeah, really.
I blame Rockefeller.
tim pool
You ever see the time travel meme?
Where it's like, what women would do?
And it's like, the woman's like, I'm your granddaughter.
And she's like, wow.
And then for the men, it's a guy in full tactical gear.
unidentified
And then we have to stop this meeting.
tim pool
Well, there's another guy wearing like a World War One helmet with rifle and it's like
Jekyll Island 1910 and he's like, trust me, trust me, great grandfather, we have to do this.
If you say so.
unidentified
Andrew Jackson knew.
ian crossland
Yeah, they shot that guy.
unidentified
Yeah, they did.
ian crossland
He broke up like, what was it, the second central bank?
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
And then they put him on the 20 as like to slap him in the face.
unidentified
I know.
ian crossland
Their founding fathers since the beginning have warned us against central banks and that we should, Congress is supposed to control our money.
tim pool
But as much as I think people who are savvy might understand there's an issue with the centralized control of your currency, for the average person, they can't see that far.
They can see first layer issues and problems.
They can see, yo, I make 15 bucks an hour.
All the Democrats claim that was a living wage.
I can't buy gas.
And so they're just like, make the gas cheaper, don't care.
unidentified
That's it.
eva vlaardingerbroek
No, go ahead.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, you can.
I'll give.
I mean, if your gas is only going up a couple cents and then maybe it's twenty dollars a month, like I think that people need to take also some responsibility and say, OK, if it's only going up this much a month, but it's not in just the gas.
I mean, we can talk about gas, but it's in every single facet of our economy because the gas affects how much your food costs.
I mean, it affects and you have this this war in Ukraine and Russia and everything affects how much the food costs.
I mean, there's a lot more than just the price of gas that is affecting people, especially then the new housing bubble.
There's a lot going on.
tim pool
I found out why I haven't gotten Starlink yet.
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
So I ordered Starlink a while ago.
It's still Biden's fault.
Well, partly.
It's the supply chain.
It's the silicon chips.
So the shortages.
Harumph, I say.
unidentified
Well, that's the same with cars.
Right.
Cars, they have special chips that can, like a BMW dealership, they have special chips that only go on their cars and they're only made in one place.
And because of that, that is all shut down essentially because these supply chain issues.
It makes it so that they can't get these chips for the BMWs and other cars.
tim pool
You know, there's a price up.
Elon Musk said he was going to vote Republican.
And I tweeted, Democrats should start to ask themselves why they're losing people.
And they don't care.
The response on Twitter was like, rich guy doesn't want to pay taxes.
Surprise, surprise.
And I'm like, you had a rich guy who just paid more taxes than anyone else in history who was voting for your people.
eva vlaardingerbroek
But I think they never cared.
If you call people deplorables, you surely don't care how they feel about you.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yep.
That's a really good point.
So I was talking about how during COVID, Joe Biden, he would say things like, here's what we have to do, and we're going to lock these things down.
And I'm like, he's talking about things that red states aren't doing, which means he's clearly not talking to Republicans at all.
That's amazing.
But if you go back to Hillary Clinton, you know, the deplorables, there was this country has been divided for a long time.
It's just been getting worse.
I wonder if the real issue is not that the country is getting more divided, but that we can really see what the other people think when they tweet it.
ian crossland
Yeah.
I was thinking, like, what's what's obviously there was chaos under the table and we've lifted the sheet.
Now we see the chaos.
But is that making it more chaotic that we can see it?
Or are we just now aware that it's been chaotic?
unidentified
Well, I think that, I mean, going back to Marx and Marcuse and the Frankfurt School, you'll find that leftism as an ideology is revolutionary in nature.
If you're going to have this ideology be ruling these people's lives, then that's what they're going to be pushing for.
And they will put it under the guise of, oh, helpfulness and morality, helping everyone, equality.
They'll put it under those sort of umbrella terms.
But really, it's a revolution or an ideology based on destruction.
That's what it is.
Critical theory, in essence, not just critical race theory, critical gender theory, any of these, all it is is destruction.
tim pool
Critical theory itself, the original Marx Marxist ideas.
ian crossland
Is it based like the idea that you want to kneecap your opponent metaphorically?
Is that all based on like you must tear down the other to acquire their level of equality?
unidentified
Well, yeah, that's Marxist in view.
Yeah.
I mean, that's really what it comes down to is that other people have something that you don't and you want to take it from them to make it equal for everyone.
I mean, that's from layman's terms, but.
Yeah.
tim pool
Just greedy people.
unidentified
Yeah.
Everyone else who has more than you is greedy.
ian crossland
Lazy too.
tim pool
That's the craziest thing to me is like my view.
My perspective on the world is that you are owed nothing and you deserve nothing but hope that you will get what you've worked for and things like that.
Right.
You can work as hard as you want.
And typically that does lead to success.
Perseverance does lead to success.
There's a possibility you could work really, really hard and then you get Julian Assange.
You know, someone comes and just screws you over.
So I look at like the formula shortage.
And there are so many people who are like, why isn't the government providing for us?
Why isn't the government giving us these things?
I see all these memes in the leftist where there's like, the problem is there's only four companies that make formula.
And I'm like, and what if there were zero?
It's the craziest thing that you think the government should intervene because there aren't enough.
No, the government intervening was the problem in the first place.
We need market competition to actually start saying, okay, we need more baby formula.
The problem is the government shut down everything.
ian crossland
The government shut down the world from COVID.
That's the craziest part.
I'm just getting really tired of the, where's the government to save me mindset.
Like in the Texas shooting, they were like, where were the police?
And I'm like, well, they were outside, you know, they're doing their police stuff.
It doesn't mean that they can stop all the crime.
unidentified
Eva, you know this about the formula that's in Europe versus the formula that's here.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
The reason why the formula is so bad here is because of the government.
eva vlaardingerbroek
I see the ingredient list.
They're totally different.
unidentified
Yeah.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Like, what's in it here?
I don't know what you're feeding your babies.
tim pool
Corn syrup solids.
lydia smith
Really bad.
A lot of soy.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Very strange.
ian crossland
Do you know off the top of your head what some of the ingredients are?
eva vlaardingerbroek
Right.
It was a lot of soy.
unidentified
There's like canola oil.
Corn syrup solids.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Corn syrup.
That was it.
Yeah.
tim pool
One of the crazy things is that Baby foods have too much salt in them, because parents taste it to see if it's good, and adults can't taste as well as a kid can, so they're like, oh, that's good, you know, and salty, and they give their babies too much sodium.
ian crossland
Oh, man.
That makes people's hair thin.
Watch out.
tim pool
There is an issue, I suppose, in that we have built the civilization off of these technologies, like formula, like petroleum, fossil fuels, and things like that.
And then when it comes about that you can't get them for whatever reason, we're going back to the Dark Ages.
We're going back to the way things were.
I don't look at that and think the solution is government.
I look at that and say, human society and civilization was unable to get to that point.
But when you can see the government actually impeding, you're like, Actually, we probably would continue to grow and thrive were it not for the intervention of this harsh regulation.
lydia smith
That's true, and that's an interesting point.
I remember when this first happened, I wrote about it because I was like, my first thought was not, we need the government to step in and save us.
My first thought was, how did my great-grandmother do this?
Breastfeed.
Right, she would breastfeed.
And if you can't, you would get like a wet nurse.
Some women can't for whatever reason.
And if you adopt a child, we want to encourage adoption.
So you need to figure out a way to get around that.
So they would use wet nurses.
They would use these other different kinds of milk.
But at no point did they say, we need a government agency to step in and make this happen.
It's insane to me.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Who is this woman?
I don't remember, but I saw something on Twitter.
It was a woman who tweeted about this.
She said, like, oh, why don't we breastfeed more?
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Some celebrity.
eva vlaardingerbroek
And she got a massive amount.
lydia smith
She got shellacked.
Yeah.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Yeah, but like crazy.
As if it was the most scandalous thing to suggest.
lydia smith
Well, yes, but there is, I feel like there's a lot of guilt assigned to women who aren't able to breastfeed to the point where it just feels like they're being attacked.
And they have a very emotional response, as women tend to do.
So it's like, they view it as very much like a personal thing.
eva vlaardingerbroek
That's obviously very sad.
But I mean, the way that that woman was like, destroyed for just, you know, just one tweet, I was like, okay.
unidentified
OK.
tim pool
So with the formula thing, it's interesting.
People have pointed out that not all women can breastfeed.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And OK, so what would we do in the past?
Wet nurses.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
So one woman who was producing too much would, the baby would, you know, get nourished from her, I suppose.
It's kind of crazy thought when you realize that we have to use a technology to feed our babies.
unidentified
That's like one thing conservatives won't admit is that the Industrial Revolution, in its essence, actually weakened the family unit throughout the West.
But conservatives don't want to have that conversation.
Usually about the free market, but yeah.
tim pool
Think about the future, what the future is going to be like.
I mean, I think where we're headed right now is a future where no one breastfeeds at all for a variety of reasons.
eva vlaardingerbroek
One, you don't even have to carry the baby in your own womb anymore with ectogenesis.
tim pool
Exactly.
We've talked about that.
Artificial wombs that are coming.
eva vlaardingerbroek
China.
tim pool
And you know what the crazy thing is, I hear from the left, This is what they were tweeting at me.
I said, you know, why kill the baby?
Democrats were, you know, I don't want to rehash the whole abortion thing, but Democrats wanted to pass an abortion up to the point of birth for the health of the mother if the baby's viable.
I'm like, that's the question.
The baby's viable.
It can survive.
Why kill it?
And when on Twitter, I tweeted about this.
Some of the responses I got was, why should a woman have to destroy her body?
And then I was just like, that's interesting.
That's how you see it.
eva vlaardingerbroek
That's how they see it.
They view it that way.
tim pool
They view it as destroying your body.
It's like, I don't know.
There's like a bunch of women who have had like five kids and they're fit and their bodies are just fine.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Right.
Does time also destroy your body?
tim pool
Yes.
eva vlaardingerbroek
I mean, yes, then.
unidentified
Yes.
Yeah.
We need government legislation on time.
lydia smith
That's right.
unidentified
Yes.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Oh, yeah.
Restrict it now.
ian crossland
Motion will slow.
That's all.
Time is just a...
tim pool
Healthcare is a really good example of what I'm trying to convey with this idea.
And it's that there was a story, I think it was out of Atlanta, where a kid had a genetic disorder and there was a cure, a genetic therapy that cost a million dollars per treatment.
And so the family was like, the state should pay for it.
And the state was like, we cannot give a million dollars for one kid because what are we going to do?
Give it to everybody?
We can't afford that.
The issue is, the medicine now exists because it's created, and these people say, therefore we deserve it.
That's fascinating.
So my response to a lot of these people who say healthcare is a human right, I'm like, let's say you have a disease that has no cure.
You just resign yourself, I suppose.
In fact, you have no cure.
But then all of a sudden someone invents a cure through hard work, through heavy investment, and now it's a right?
Now you are...
That's crazy to me.
That would be like saying, cell phones are a human right.
Technology that doesn't exist, you have no right to, but as soon as someone invents it, it's your right, that makes no sense.
ian crossland
Or, like, I'm hungry, so your food is my right.
Like, that's not, we've obviously decided that's not the way society works.
tim pool
So this is, this is the ultimate problem I see, uh, I shouldn't say the ultimate problem, but this is a big problem I see with modern politics, in that a lot of what you hear from the left is, something exists, therefore it's my right.
And I'm like, bro, that didn't exist for our parents.
Like, there's cure for disease, cures for diseases today that there were no cures for 30 years ago.
No one went around being like, I should have a right to have that disease cured, and they'd be like, there's no cure, what are you talking about?
There's nothing.
Someone invents it?
So I suppose, like, the issue is...
If we all come together and put billions of dollars in investment and big companies to invent one cure, who gets it?
I mean, whoever can fund the development of it.
But people on the left often will just look at the world.
It's not just about medicine.
It's about every aspect of it.
I have a right to what currently exists, period.
You don't.
You can work for it, you can try and earn it.
Some things have gotten cheaper.
Look, poor people, I tell you this man, poor people today live better than Rockefeller did.
They got refrigerators, they got air conditioning, they got clean running water, better dental care than the ultra-wealthy back 120 years ago.
ian crossland
I think that you do want to make sure people get their needs met at the very least, because otherwise then they go towards might is right and they'll seize control or take the goods for themselves by force.
And that doesn't work either.
tim pool
Yes.
unidentified
But listen, listen, then you got to have the I mean, then if you're talking about the government coming in, is that what you're talking about?
ian crossland
Hungry militia stepping out of your land's mind now.
tim pool
Everything's a need.
All right.
Went before the era of formula.
You couldn't feed your baby, you couldn't feed your baby!
You have a need, you need food for your baby.
Too bad, what are you gonna do?
Your wife didn't produce enough milk, hopefully there's a wet nurse.
Now that formula exists, it becomes a need.
Like, the baby always needed food, but we created a way to sustain that.
So, technology.
At first, cell phones were a great thing.
They made your job easier.
Now you have to have one.
You can't have a job unless they can get in touch with you and you have an email account.
Email used to be a luxury.
Some people didn't think it would catch on.
ian crossland
That's interesting about basic needs.
Food, shelter, transportation maybe is one.
Food and shelter.
Because as you invent new types of shelter, then people feel like those are part of their basic needs.
That I need that now.
I need that solar-powered house because that's my shelter.
unidentified
I was taking Ava around Los Angeles a couple days ago and we were going, if anyone is in LA, you know the Grove and there's a market called Erewhon over there, which is just a horrible, horrible place.
So fancy, just terrible.
20 bucks a smoothie, not worth it.
And it's like in LA, you have a society that's very decadent that's built on like, okay, if I have some more money, I can go this kind of store.
And if I have even more money, I can go to this type of grocery store.
And so then those type of people feel like, okay, well now I need this organic grass-fed chicken that gets to poop 20 miles away from another chicken, right?
They feel like they need that.
And so it's like, how do you stop where it's like, this is a need and this is a want.
How do you define what each one is?
tim pool
Well, once you get to the point where technology is utilized by everybody, it becomes normal.
Now, today, if you got a job somewhere and didn't have a cell phone, they'd be like, this is ridiculous, it's so inconvenient to get a hold of you.
The norm is to have a phone.
Now it's a need.
So, over time, everything becomes a need.
When we invented baby formula, it was like, oh, thank heavens, now I can feed my child, you know, if the mother's not nursing.
Now you need to have it, because so many kids are able to survive.
They exist now.
lydia smith
Yeah, this is the definition of a success problem, because in the past we had infant mortality rates that were absolutely through the roof.
It was a huge problem.
And for, you know, a culture that says that we don't want more people, we sure do everything in our power to make sure that babies can survive, which I think is great.
I think that any sufficiently advanced society absolutely should be pointed in the direction of making sure that the youngest, most vulnerable members of society live better.
unidentified
But you had more in for mortality, but people would also have way more kids.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's true, too.
unidentified
I mean, some people would have like seven or eight kids, and if two of them died, that was just how it went.
You had population growth.
Now you look at the West, and our populations are dying.
I mean, we're way below what we're supposed to be having to be sustainable.
I mean, Russia's going to have like 60% of its population drop by the year 2100.
tim pool
The crazy thing to me is the idea of these millennial men being like, it destroys your body.
And it's just like, that's how you view it.
It's a crazy thing.
eva vlaardingerbroek
It's a pure decadence.
lydia smith
Yes.
ian crossland
Is it because the babies are bigger because of the diet?
More like bovine growth hormone and stuff in the diet?
tim pool
RBGH babies.
unidentified
Seriously?
lydia smith
Maybe.
So the babies are big and it's really hard on women because we're so gosh darn smart.
Really big heads.
This is why infants or babies and children need care for so long.
It's because their brains, first of all, their heads are incredibly unwieldy for them to hold up and we can barely squeeze them out as it is.
If they were to develop in the womb any longer, we wouldn't be able to give birth and we would just go extinct.
So, again, that's the definition of a success problem because we are so smart.
They develop outside the womb so much longer than something like a baby elephant that literally hits the ground running and can now get away from predators.
We're in a different class and we have much different sets of problems to deal with.
Thankfully, we're equipped with IQ and all that.
tim pool
I think we're gonna survive.
lydia smith
Hope so.
tim pool
But let's jump to this story from TimCast.com about Beto O'Rourke, a sick SOB, says the town mayor.
O'Rourke interrupts a Valdi school shooting press conference, gets called a sick son of a B by town mayor.
Talk about one of the most disgusting things.
Outlook, man.
I got my disagreements with Beto O'Rourke.
That's for sure.
He's a goofy guy who thinks he can skateboard.
He can barely stand on the board, as it is.
And he says, heck yeah, we're gonna take your guns!
Okay, those are bad ideas, but this was just the worst.
Texas gubernatorial candidate Beto O'Rourke was escorted out of a press conference about the Robb Elementary tragedy on Wednesday after an outburst aimed at current governor Greg Abbott, saying, It was totally predictable.
The governor was doing nothing.
This is the stupidest thing ever.
Because Texas has constitutional carry.
So what do you mean doing nothing?
A crazy person did something really crazy.
And Beto has offered no solutions.
Not a single Democrat has offered any tangible solution.
Not a single one.
Period.
I will say that as a statement of fact.
They could come out and offer up their empty ideas and meaningless... They love to rag on conservatives.
Thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers.
What's the difference between common sense gun reform and background checks?
It's meaningless.
It will do nothing, solve nothing.
What does common sense even mean?
They're saying the exact same things when they criticize thoughts and prayers.
They're offering nothing.
unidentified
If you can 3D print a gun, I mean, what does any of that really mean?
tim pool
Exactly.
unidentified
You know, it's the technological age again, going back to, I mean, that's really the future.
It doesn't really matter.
And I don't think Republicans have offered many good solutions either.
I have to say that because no one's getting to the root of the problem, which is the culture.
I mean, it's the culture that's a problem that is affecting these young men.
We have failed.
our young men to a degree that this is happening. I mean from a 1903 to 1960 or
70 I believe there were three mass shootings in America in total in total
and and now you have all this happening I mean multiple a year and it's a
tim pool
problem of culture. It's it is narcissism. I think modern America and many
I can only speak for the culture here is just we are we are sitting beneath a blanket of narcissism, especially for the millennial generation.
eva vlaardingerbroek
And what do you think that stems from?
tim pool
Man, I I don't know.
I think it probably is rooted in this idea that, you know, when I was growing up, I was told you can be anything you want to be like an astronaut or a rock star, all of these things.
Where is the humble culture that says there is something special in a good hard day's work?
Be a carpenter!
eva vlaardingerbroek
You know what I'd say?
If I think about that a little bit more, I would say it's society that asks nothing of people, like of young men, for example, and certainly not the things that we used to think were good qualities for young men to have.
If you ask nothing of young people, what will they do?
They'll just sort of think only about how they are, how they feel, who they are, and therefore will become narcissistic, because there's nothing that society demands of them.
tim pool
I saw this Libs of TikTok video just before the show.
It was this woman talking about her polyamorous relationships.
And she's like, I call it a polycule because it's like a molecule, but it's like all the different relationships we have.
And then she made like, you ever see those conspiracy theory wall things where they take the red twine?
It was that, but all the people she was like married, she was married to one guy dating another guy.
And she says, it's just the funniest thing ever.
She goes, okay, let me show it to you now.
At the center is me.
And I was like, I just bust out laughing when I heard that.
I'm like, I know that she doesn't mean it's all about me necessarily, but that's, that's what it is.
unidentified
What it conveys.
tim pool
That's all about what it is.
My life, my experience and nothing else.
The people who are the, it's funny, the socialists are the most selfish people I've ever met.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
lydia smith
Ironic.
unidentified
I mean, I've, uh, you guys are a little bit older than me, but I talked to a lot of men my age and older, maybe a little bit younger.
How old are you?
25.
Yeah.
160 pounds.
And I'll talk to a lot of young men and they'll be like, we'll be talking about World War II or World War I or something or, you know, even medieval knights or something.
And they'll say, man, I wish I could have been there.
I wish I could have been fighting in something like this or been a part of something like this.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Yeah, you see, again, that society asks nothing of them, so they crave those types of things.
unidentified
There's nothing for them to do.
There is no great war for them.
There's no great purpose for them.
They move to San Francisco and work in some marketing department of some new tech startup, and their life sucks, and they have no meaning.
ian crossland
There's one thing they can do.
Psychoactive drugs, courtesy of pharmaceutical companies, like Klonopin for 14-year-olds and stuff.
unidentified
Well, it's basically speed, but legal speed.
ian crossland
How many of these shooters are on some sort of drug?
I want to know, because you see their eyes half the time.
I see the one guy who looked like the Joker from Batman.
His eyes are real wide.
The other guy, Lynn Lanza or something, had big eyes real wide.
Adam Lanza.
And I think this was, was this person cross-dressing?
The shooter in Texas?
tim pool
That's not real.
ian crossland
That was fake.
Okay, that's a fake meme.
I don't know if this person was on some sort of psychoactive, if their parents were on some sort of drug, but I think that's a big part of it.
unidentified
I mean, there are cities in America that run out of Adderall for young men.
They prescribe it so much to kids that they run out and have to re-up in these cities.
tim pool
That's a question that needs to be asked about the prescriptions of amphetamines and mind-altering chemicals.
I want to read this quote.
It's just such a good quote, and for those that have seen Fight Club, you know the quote.
Tyler Durden.
He says, Man, I see in Fight Club the strongest and smartest men who've ever lived.
I see all this potential and I see it squandered.
An entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables, slaves with white collars.
Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy ish we don't need.
We're the middle children of history, man.
No purpose or place.
We have no Great War, no Great Depression.
Our Great War is a spiritual war.
Our Great Depression is our lives.
We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires and movie gods and rock stars, but we won't.
And we're slowly learning that fact, and we are very, very pissed off.
What's amazing is...
Man, I feel like that, that's, this movie came out with like 99.
Think about what we're experiencing today with millennials all of a sudden starting to realize they're not going to be celebrities, they're not going to be rock stars, they're not going to be astronauts.
Yo, you need to just go get a job.
unidentified
I love the line in the movie, uh, we're a generation of men raised by women.
I'm starting to wonder if another woman is exactly what we need.
And I think that goes not into just I love you.
I love having a fiancé.
But in terms of a generation of men, we've become so weak and that any sort of struggle or outside force that is challenging us is something that we should be fearful of and that we should push away instead of embracing it and saying, okay, we're going to take on this thing that's really hard.
You know?
I think that's a really important thing.
tim pool
I think, you know, what I've seen over and over again, and it's probably mostly true, Democrats are the party of the higher income earners.
These are many of these, they're the party of college degrees.
They have student loan debt and they're demanding the working class pay their debts for them.
I mean, it's just, it is just gluttony.
It is just pure gluttony.
ian crossland
I spent some time chopping wood.
I was like, you know, I've been pretty privileged in my life, so I'm going to do some manual labor.
I still had a machine that was a gas-powered hydraulic thing once I got the huge log up on it.
But at the end of the day, I was broken.
My body was broken.
And I realized why we build machines to do manual labor.
Because it's devastating.
I couldn't even think.
I couldn't be creative.
I fell asleep early.
So I understand why people don't want to do that.
Maybe we don't have to do jobs.
I mean, job economy is like Federal Reserve crap.
They want us busy and borrowing their money so that we can pay them back with interest.
tim pool
But Ian, exercising is not destructive.
It's not bad for you.
It's good for you.
unidentified
It hurts at first.
ian crossland
It wasn't just exercise, though.
It was like grueling labor as well.
It was beyond exercise.
eva vlaardingerbroek
But if you have to do that type of manual labor day in day out, of course, you're gonna have your back ruined earlier
on than if you do another type of job.
But that's like, back then you would have your family and take over and take care of you.
So that's why family structures were and still are so important, but become less and less important if you have
people need autonomized life where they're just behind their computers, you know, and
ian crossland
even community.
If your neighbor is hurt, you pitch in and mow their lawn for them.
But if everyone's in their isolated chamber... That's exactly the type of life they have in mind for us.
eva vlaardingerbroek
If that's not clear to people by now, after how they treated us during the COVID pandemic, I don't know what to tell you.
Like, it's very clear that that's the type of life that they want you to have.
They want you to sit down behind your computer, do your job, meet people in the metaverse, eat your food ordered by, you know, brought to you by a migrant, an illegal migrant, probably, to your door.
And then, you know, that you didn't make or you meet people on on Tinder, and that's sort of the life that they want for you.
I guess, you know, if you don't see that by now, then I don't know what to tell you.
tim pool
I think we're gonna at some point see one of the ultimate weapons in fifth generational warfare, and that is artificial intelligence indistinguishable from a regular person.
Because then you're in the metaverse, you go into these chat rooms, they already exist!
You get the Oculus, you guys ever do this?
I don't know what it's called, like VR live chat or something?
eva vlaardingerbroek
I've never done it before.
tim pool
And there's like avatars walking around and you can talk to people.
You'll walk up to someone.
And they'll be like, yo, what's up?
My name's John.
I'm from Springfield, Illinois.
I skateboard and hang out at this bar.
And you're going to be like, this is a cool person.
And it's not a person.
It is a programmed AI meant to control your thoughts and opinions.
ian crossland
Or you'll go up to a guy and be like, that's not a real person.
That's an AI.
But it will be a real person.
And they're like, take me seriously.
I just don't have the communication skills.
I don't think the AI is ever going to have emotions.
I think if we have clear enough minds, we'll be able to discern.
tim pool
I don't know, man.
unidentified
We have an AI that has consciousness now.
Yeah, I mean Joe Allen reported on that you guys had on a couple days ago. I mean AI with consciousness
tim pool
How is that determined though?
unidentified
I'd have to go through it as one of the competitors from from Google one of them
eva vlaardingerbroek
Isn't it basically the idea that the algorithm is so advanced that they can sort of imitate your thoughts? Yeah
Like the algorithm is so good that you wouldn't be able to tell if you're talking to Algorithm Will or if you're talking to Will.
tim pool
Look at Twitter already.
You'll tweet something and they'll say, you're a bot.
You can't even have a conversation because everyone's accusing everyone else of not being a real person.
Yeah, one of the crazy things I was reading about was they'll take your Facebook profile because they know everything about you.
They know when you poop.
I know it's funny and a lot of people probably laugh, but it's true.
They can actually predict when you have to go to the bathroom.
They know when you're gonna eat because they have all this data.
They know your family.
They know how you speak because you've posted for years.
They can create an AI bot based on you to actually answer questions about your life.
This is crazy.
I was reading this thing.
It was like your dad could die.
And then let's say you message your dad and say, hey dad, and he'll say, hey Tim, how've you been?
Because the profile has family members in it already.
It knows everything about you.
unidentified
That was literally the Black Mirror episode.
lydia smith
That's right, exactly.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Yeah, but they'll probably do that and they'll sell it to you in that way and say like, oh, isn't it nice that if you, you know, if you lose your husband in a tragic accident and you need to go through therapy and all of these things, like, wouldn't it be great for people to continue talking to them, for example?
You know, it might be sold to you that way.
tim pool
Here's the craziest thing, though.
Have you guys seen, what is it, The Haunting, I think it is?
unidentified
No.
A scary movie.
tim pool
Yeah, a scary movie.
It's old, old.
It's the only one I can really think of where you see this, where it's like all of these different people are in the wall, and they're like, their faces are coming out like they're trapped in it.
When you go on to your Facebook page or whatever to talk to a deceased loved one, and they'll have a real conversation with you, and you're sitting there looking at the screen, crying, being like, I miss you, Dad!
I miss you!
Behind the screen is this disgusting horror monster.
You're not talking about Zuckerberg, are you?
just creepy empty eyes and it's going I love you too son you're not talking
about Zuckerberg are you what I mean is just you're getting this filtered
message from what appears to be your dad but behind that is an amalgam of all of
these monstrous ideas this demon creature that it's like imagine a
gigantic like just zombie monster with melting face and blood coming out
And then all of a sudden it gets a little girl's voice and starts talking to you like it's your actual daughter you lost in a car accident.
It's like, I miss you, daddy.
And you're like, that thing is not my daughter.
That's what you're going to be talking to.
unidentified
Right.
Well, it's like, you know, taking nicotine patches when you quit smoking versus, like, actually just quitting it altogether.
It's like, sometimes it can be actually worse for you by doing it this way, right?
I mean, it's like, if someone in your family dies, it's a part of life that everyone has to deal with.
But again, this is all about taking away our humanity.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Yes.
unidentified
All these things are taking away our humanity.
Everything's unnatural.
Yes.
ian crossland
It strikes me that they don't have emotion.
Machines don't have emotion.
Even artificial machines, they have intelligence.
We off-put our intelligence into these machines so that they can do computations, but I have yet to see any form of emotion in any of it.
Maybe we need to define what emotion means.
unidentified
If they can emulate emotion through an algorithm, I mean, if these people think that they are God who are creating these brain chips and all these other things, this AI, then they think that your brain is essentially just a thing working up there that synapses and electrodes and all these kind of things, then they can emulate that in an AI to create emotions to present to you.
ian crossland
Do you believe in God?
Do you guys believe in a God?
unidentified
I'm a Christian.
ian crossland
I'm not, but I still believe that there is a God-like essence that's, whether it's consciousness, you know, speaking into our black hole that we're within that's within another universe that's a black hole where there's all these competing vibrations.
I don't know, but I don't think machines can emulate.
I don't know.
I don't want to say they can't, but I've never seen any evidence that they can emulate that.
tim pool
I gotta say, a lot of this sounds demonic.
To quote Alex Jones, demons!
I don't literally mean like Hellspawn rising from, you know, cracks in the earth and like bleh.
It's just like this idea that we have simulated We've created a program, a machine to convince you that it's alive.
That's a real person.
It's a facsimile.
It's like you look into a mirror and then just this doppelganger face emerges out and you know, it's not a real person.
That's a scary thought.
eva vlaardingerbroek
That's probably more demonic than what you're talking about.
Like the real zombies crawling up from the earth.
Like this is, this is more demonic in a sense that this is something that numbs people down.
So then you don't know what's happening to you.
You become the zombie.
tim pool
We are.
You know what?
I've criticized free markets often.
It's funny when people on Twitter are so hyper-polarized, they can't possibly imagine I would.
Because I think that one of the results of a totally unfettered market is, I guess, self-gratification to the human mind.
Things that make you feel good, which is simulated love.
Like those AI bots, AI girlfriends you can download or whatever.
Then, you know, Video games, in general, to give you rewards for accomplishing things when you're not really accomplishing anything.
ian crossland
Caffeine?
I'm about to drink some right now.
tim pool
Well, caffeine's a psychoactive stimulant, so we want to stay awake, we want to be energized, and it makes you euphoric.
ian crossland
I saw Yuval Noah Harari, he's one of these World Economic Forum guys, saying, like, it's drugs and video games.
That seems like where they want to put themselves.
These useless eaters he was referring to them as.
unidentified
I think there's a problem with the conservative, old school conservatives.
tim pool
He called them useless eaters?
ian crossland
Yeah, in a clip I saw.
It might have been out of context, but yeah.
eva vlaardingerbroek
He says the scariest things.
Really, anybody should look that up.
The things he says about transhumanism and the way that we are going to be controlled through transhumanism, through these technologies, it's absolutely scary.
ian crossland
Let me see if I can pull up the useless eater clip for him.
tim pool
I know that people have made those references.
I never knew that one of those guys actually said that.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Oh, he says all those things.
Everything that you think that he does that is like made up.
He says it.
lydia smith
It's not a conspiracy theory.
eva vlaardingerbroek
No, no, no.
It's real.
And he says it like at World Economic Forum events where all our leaders are convening right now as we speak.
And nobody seems to care.
tim pool
And news media.
eva vlaardingerbroek
It's totally normal.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Oh, yeah.
ian crossland
It's kind of like, uh, no, I typed in useless eaters on Twitter.
I'm looking for it.
It's kind of like he's just sees the writing on the wall.
Like in one way of looking at the utilitarian way is like, yeah, maybe there is a class of like drugged out use.
I don't think they're useless, but what are they going to do?
What are these people?
If there's no, if there's, are we overpopulated?
I don't know.
I go both ways.
I'm like, no, obviously not.
We're just malformed.
We can spread out.
It is magnetic trains.
tim pool
It is people like him that have resulted in people being useless because they want.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Yes.
They want you to be mindless consumers.
And that's it.
unidentified
And that's like, going back to it, what is the small government solution for these kind of things?
Like, you can't just rely on the free market for all these kind of things.
When it comes to stuff in schools with kids, I mean, what's a small government solution to stopping the trans ideology being pushed?
tim pool
There's only one solution in its culture.
It is that we have a shared set of values and ideas that, you know, drive us towards something better.
Let's jump to this story.
We got this from TimCast.com.
Indiana legislature overrides governor's veto to enact transgender sports regulations.
The ACLU has already challenged the bill in court, citing Title IX.
Legislators in Indiana enacted a bill requiring students to compete on sports teams that correlate with their biological sex.
Minutes later, the ACLU filed a lawsuit arguing the bill is a form of gender-based discrimination that violates Title IX.
And I'll just say, I think the ACLU is right.
I don't think they're right culturally, I think they're right legally, and that's something I've long talked about.
You can't have gender segregation under the 1964 Civil Rights Act, under Title IX.
So, the arguments that were made for ending racial segregation make sense.
The arguments for ending gender segregation don't make sense, but there's a legal precedent that doesn't care about the distinction.
So this is what's happening in schools now.
So basically this bill is trying to say like, look, I'm gonna put it this way for everybody who's not familiar with what's going on, or who maybe doesn't understand.
There is a female pro skateboarder, came out as trans, kept competing against females.
Then you get male skateboarders who say that they're actually women, and then they compete against females.
It only flows in one direction.
This is a big part of the problem.
This is what these bills are trying to address.
If we need to create a new league, a new division for trans athletes, then sure, maybe that's a solution.
But just eliminating the women's division makes no sense.
Now the ACLU is arguing you can't have gender segregation.
I think the issue is the law says that.
unidentified
I'm trying to understand exactly what the ACLU is saying.
Because, I mean, the ACLU are the people who tweet out that men have periods.
tim pool
Right, they're basically nuts, right?
unidentified
Yeah, they're nuts.
tim pool
So here's the issue.
From a legal standpoint, I think they have a correct argument.
Legally correct, but not, like, an actually... What's the right way to say it?
ian crossland
Justifiable?
tim pool
Right, right, right. Justifiably, like morally or ethical.
Yeah, it's a better way to put it.
The 1964 Civil Rights Act, you can't discriminate against a person in public accommodation based on national origin,
sex, gender, blah, blah, whatever, race.
So from that, we were like, okay, no more, you know, white restroom and black restroom.
It's all going to be the same.
But even though the 1964 Civil Rights Act includes gender, we never ended gender segregation.
For obvious reasons.
Men and women are different.
unidentified
Okay, so on the precedent side, you are saying that it is correct because of the Civil Rights Act and how it was enacted.
tim pool
I think people need to understand that these laws are not... When we try to create a logical formula for a cultural problem that is nuanced and is experienced in a gradient way, you will have issues like this.
unidentified
So we're basically saying that we do actually need laws that segregate women from men in terms of these types of things, whether it comes to sports or any of these.
Is that a hot take?
I don't know.
I mean, that feels pretty natural to say.
tim pool
Well, so we had, I think it was Delano Squires who was on.
We were talking about this and he was like, You can't, you can travel all over the world and see the differences between men and women are like uniform.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Differences between different groups of people in different areas, you know, are different as well.
So the issue with race is that it's not a good reason to segregate somebody.
Like, you say this, you know, this guy's white and this guy's black.
Well, one dude is Italian and five foot five and one guy's, you know, Swedish and six foot five.
I mean race is not the issue right now.
So for like MMA, we do weight categories and things like that.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
For segregating based on race for a bathroom, that makes no sense.
But gender, experienced all over the world by every single human being,
99.8% of the time is the same.
There's a reason why we separate.
I mean, there's a variety of cultural reasons and then actual physical reasons.
But the 1964 Civil Rights Act doesn't include any of that.
So this would have to be addressed.
One of the issues at play is that they allow segregation at certain universities for gender segregation.
When it's like a woman-in-computers program.
There was a lawsuit, it was something like this.
Some guy sued saying you can't have a woman-in-computers program because that is discriminatory against males.
The school said we have a men in computer program.
And the courts ruled that so long as they offer the same opportunities to both, it's not actually discriminatory.
And I'm like, wouldn't that precedent apply to national origin, religion, or race as well?
That was what we got rid of when we ended segregation.
So how is it different when it comes to gender under the same law?
eva vlaardingerbroek
I'm a lawyer, right?
And what I find interesting about these types of conversations is that it shows very clearly that the law doesn't have an answer for everything.
These types of laws, obviously with the subject of transgenderism, when these laws were written down, that wasn't an issue.
So it poses all of these new problems that now the law has to respond to, needs to answer to, and it doesn't know how to.
And I think with something like this, the way that we've always dealt with that was morality.
So you have certain norms in society that dictate, okay, well, obviously, in this case, we find the segregation or the differentiation of certain groups justified, because that's just the way it is.
There is no better argument really for it, or that's the way it should be.
Because we have a shared idea of what is right and what is wrong in society.
And therefore, you know, that problem kind of solves itself.
But now we're looking to all these, we're looking to these problems and we're saying, oh, we need to create laws around it.
And often you just make more of a mess around.
tim pool
I think we probably need to codify that we can segregate on the basis of sex.
So when I'm saying gender, I'm literally talking about biological sex.
ian crossland
Gender and sex.
But it's the civil rights laws are about gender.
They're talking about gender.
Do they mention sex?
tim pool
1964, it says sex.
I'm using gender the classical way, to refer to the biological differences between men and women.
ian crossland
So you want to discriminate insofar as you don't want to put a naked woman around a bunch of naked men that are in heat.
tim pool
In heat?
unidentified
That's a family-friendly, nice way of putting it.
ian crossland
So discrimination is massively important.
If you can't make a discrimination, if you can't discriminate against a guy running at you with a knife and a guy standing on a corner not looking at you, you're gonna die.
So you need to discriminate.
tim pool
I'm not going to pretend I have all the answers.
I'm just going to say that culture is everything.
When we enshrined the 1964 Civil Rights Act, I think we did some tremendous good.
Ending segregation was right.
Segregation was wrong.
And why didn't we end sex segregation?
Why were we like, okay, now there can't be different restaurants for different races, but you can still separate schools and public accommodations for different, you know, you'd have ladies night, you do all these things, because culturally, everybody was okay with it.
So there was no need to change it.
Now we have the rise of this woke cult, and they're exploiting this law and our culture for not addressing these things.
I think the real intent is just to destroy.
Yeah.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Confused.
tim pool
Right.
Demoralized.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Yeah.
Constantly confused people.
tim pool
As Yuri Bezmenov says.
unidentified
Yes.
What you talked about on Twitter was today or the other day about a civil war in this country.
I mean, it feels to me like we're at a place, when I was growing up versus now, we are at a place where there is no coming back for some of these people on the left.
That some of these ideas that have spawned out of their mouths that they write about and they talk about are so radical And so different from anything that has ever been talked about in human history that I don't see a way that we come back.
I mean, we're already in a civil war of ideas in this country, civil war of ideas in the West.
I hope that it doesn't get violent.
But it seems like we're headed towards some sort of national divorce.
You have people who are fine with butchering, savagely killing babies after they are born and calling it helping the woman.
I'm supposed to live in a society with people like that?
tim pool
It doesn't... You know, the conversation on abortion keeps coming up.
Someone, some news outlet, I don't know, wrote an article saying that I was a conservative who was obsessed with late-term abortion, which never happens, simply because I said, hey, look, Democrats are trying to pass late-term abortion legislation.
Why?
You're obsessed with it.
It never happens, Tim.
Why are you talking about it?
I'm like, I'm talking about it because you just tried to legalize it.
I don't understand.
Like you said, we're going to legalize this.
I said, why?
I'm not obsessed.
I'm asking you why you did this thing.
eva vlaardingerbroek
This is their little trick, right?
They do that all the time with these types of things.
They say, oh, never happens.
But then when it happens, it's a good thing.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
eva vlaardingerbroek
So that's that's just.
unidentified
I mean, the demographic change is the what's it called?
Replacement.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Replacement doesn't happen.
But when it happens, it's a good thing.
tim pool
Well, this is that's the crazy thing, too.
And they're talking about Tucker Carlson.
All of these Democrats talk about immigration as a means of maintaining political power.
Then Tucker Carlson gets angry about it.
And they're like, he's pushing conspiracy theories.
It's like, what?
They do it to Trump all the time, or they would.
Trump would read the news, and then he'd be like, you see this thing that's going on, it's a very interesting
medicine, and then the media would be like, Trump makes up medical
misinformation, he's dangerous, and it's like, I read that in TechCrunch.
Trump, like, watches the news, repeats it, and it gets worse.
I mean, that's those Man on the Street videos.
I've done a lot of Man on the Street videos with PragerU.
inner city unemployment and they said it was mostly false but it was it was like a
verbatim quote from bernie sanders which is mostly true
unidentified
incredible how they do this. I mean that's those man on the street videos. I've done a lot of man on the street videos
with PragerU. Check them all out.
But you know where you go and tell someone you say hey this is
what the republicans or the conservatives are saying and then it
turns out that oh that was actually the left.
Yeah, that was actually the left.
That was actually the Democrats.
I mean, we did one about the history of the Democrat Party I did on Hollywood Boulevard a couple years ago.
You know, Michael Malice had a good tweet.
and saying, you know, who started the KKK, all these things, they all think it's Republicans
when it's really Democrats.
I mean, you can quote these people verbatim and they will still tell you that you're a
liar and that everything you say is untrue.
tim pool
You know, Michael Malice had a good tweet.
He said, I'll start believing that you care about kids' lives when you care about the
ones that Joe Biden took or something to that effect.
And I don't remember the exact quote from Michael, but I'll put it this way.
I'll believe that any of these people care about kids' lives when they have a national news cycle condemning Barack Obama for the children he killed, including the American citizen.
Citizens, but, you know, namely Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki, a 16-year-old American citizen that Obama killed.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Where was the big news cycle? In fact, when Luke Grydkowski was at, I think it was the 2012 DNC,
I think it was the DNC, and he and another reporter for We Are Change asked these personalities about
the drone assassination of Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki, an American 16-year-old. Someone, I think it was
Charlie Gibbs, I'm not sure, said he should have had a better father. They don't care.
They don't care about who they blow up or kill.
They're using political wedge issues.
And that's why they never offer any real solutions to any of these problems.
That's why they're like background checks.
It's like, dude, we already have those!
What are you talking about?
unidentified
Right, there is no gun show loophole.
tim pool
Yeah, it's nonsense.
It's the weirdest thing.
Like, every time I go to buy a gun, I gotta fill out my little background check form.
The only thing I can do is if I want to steel man their argument, is that they're talking about, like, in West Virginia, you can sell a weapon to a family member.
Or, you know, a private sale.
You're still legally responsible for that.
You'll go to prison if this person isn't legally allowed to have it.
So if they've done drugs, if they're depressed, like, you can get in trouble for it.
We have those laws.
But they're like, common sense gun reform.
I'm like, what does that mean?
They're not saying anything.
unidentified
If it's a white person, then it's white supremacy's fault as a shooter.
If it's anyone else of any other race, it's gun control.
All these things are is a tool that the left can use to bludgeon their opponents.
I mean, all of these things.
They don't care about any of it.
It's just a tool to get their way.
tim pool
It's just crazy that you see that dude in Waukesha.
You know, he rams this parade.
He's got black nationalist stuff on his Facebook, and they're like, nah, nah, nah.
He's not political.
It's like, come on, dude.
ian crossland
Yeah, someone the other night mentioned that although these, I don't know if you call them psychopaths, or this aberration of American society, are using leftist tactics, it's not actually the American left.
The American left and right are still relatively sane and somewhere towards the center, but you've got this weird, like, pseudo-communist, fascist, probably psychoactively dampened group of people that are ripping themselves apart and screaming and busting stuff up.
tim pool
I wonder about this.
I wonder about the medication rates among conservatives versus liberals.
There was a poll I was reading that said liberals are more likely to experience mental illness.
Have you ever seen this one?
Now the left argued that it's not that they have more mental illness, it's that Republicans don't go to the doctor.
unidentified
And I'm like I don't need to go to the doctor.
I'm all good.
tim pool
Or it's like, I'm a big strong man.
I don't need to go to the doctor.
But that data doesn't show that.
You can speculate all you want.
I don't see it in the data.
All I know is the data says liberals, the left, are more likely, the further you go left, the more mental illness they have.
ian crossland
The more deep in the city you live, the more mentally ill you may become.
That's what happened to me.
I mean, you're in L.A.
right now.
Are you guys noticing?
Have you noticed your own mind in that city getting broken or weakened or what?
unidentified
I mean, I stay away from a lot of the city stuff.
I live kind of in a... I live out in Burbank, if people are familiar, again, with L.A.
No, it's kind of outside of L.A., outside of the city, outside of Hollywood, so I try to keep to myself and my dog.
We kind of hang out a lot, so... But I know a lot of people who live in that city.
And before, when I first moved to L.A.
and did a lot of stuff in Hollywood, did a lot of stuff in Beverly Hills, all that kind of stuff, it was destroying my mind.
ian crossland
Yeah, the brake dust.
A lot of it's the brake dust off the car pads, the brake pads.
It's more fine than carbon, I think more fine than carbon dioxide, maybe not carbon dioxide, but more fine than like soot.
And it goes through the alveoli in your lungs right into the bloodstream and makes just massive hypertension and depression.
tim pool
Let's not forget all the fluoride in the water.
unidentified
That's right.
eva vlaardingerbroek
I taste that.
No, no.
The first time I came here, or the first time I drank a glass of water, which is six days ago, because this is my first time in the U.S.
The first thing I said to him is, does this taste like pool?
Like a pool.
tim pool
Well, it's got chlorine.
That's the chlorine, probably.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Yeah, well, but it tastes completely different.
Yeah.
No, our water is very filtered.
tim pool
Can you get used to it?
Are you sure?
eva vlaardingerbroek
Go check it out.
Dutch waters, I swear.
It's very filtered.
It's filtered to death.
It tastes like nothing.
tim pool
I want to pull up this story from the Hartford Courant.
Robert Reich op-ed the truth about America's second civil war.
And the truth is, as he puts it, is that it's not going to be a civil war.
It's going to be a slow, peaceful breaking apart of, you know, people slowly deciding not to work with each other, but maintaining things like the common defense or whatever.
So just a moment ago, you mentioned, you know, the potential for civil war, whatever.
I read this article.
It's from May 10th.
And the fascinating thing is that when you actually read the history of the American Civil War, Robert Reich clearly did not.
This dude, because if he did, his op-ed would not say, we won't go to civil war.
His op-ed would be like, yeah, it's going to happen.
He's basically saying that there's a disagreement on laws, there's a disagreement on how to run things, so people are deciding to hyperpolarize red, you know, Republicans move to red states, Democrats to blue states, and then ultimately we're just going to decide to, you know, just do our thing.
Yeah, read about the Civil War.
That's what was happening.
Southern states were saying that the Northern states were in violation of federal law because they were supposed to be returning slaves and they weren't.
And if that was the case, why would they have to abide by federal law if the North wasn't doing it?
If California right now is not enforcing immigration law, why then should, you know, Texas enforce federal abortion standards?
This is what precipitates the breaking apart of the Union like we saw in 1860.
Then you had seven states secede before Abraham Lincoln was inaugurated.
And then after... There was a few more states, I think, that joined in.
No, I think it was seven states.
Then when the Battle of Fort Sumter happened, a bunch of other states went, WHOA!
Like, yo, count me out.
Like, this is crazy.
The Union is going in now, and their states are supposed to be sovereign.
Robert Reich is saying, you know, there's an abortion issue is happening.
So Democrats are going to move to blue areas and Republicans to red areas.
And I'm like, yeah, that's literally what's happening.
So when you have Roe v. Wade, and then you get Republican states basically saying, like, we're not doing it anymore.
We're going to start, you know, and they get sued over it.
It's the lawsuits that brought us to the point where Roe v. Roe and Casey may now be overturned.
But then the Democrats are going to be like, Republicans aren't abiding by the laws of this land.
And it's like, California and New York allowing non-citizens to vote.
You kidding me?
It's not just one thing happening in one area.
It is Democrats in the entirety of California, according to, I can't remember which NGO it was, earned one extra electoral college vote and congressional seat by allowing illegal immigrants into the state without enforcement.
Because congressional seats are apportioned based on population size, not citizenry.
All of this stuff, it looks very eerily reminiscent to what happened in 1860.
unidentified
You know what you caused?
tim pool
A weak president, maybe Donald Trump gets in and then...
unidentified
You know how much it costs every Californian every year for illegal immigrants in the states?
$1,800 median for every single household in the state.
I mean, it's getting to a point where the people there are fed up and the left will continue to do whatever they want.
They don't care about the standards of federal law or what they're supposed to do.
And then as soon as a conservative or a Republican president or a Republican governor comes out and does something like this, then it's the end of the world for them.
I mean, conservatives have to play hardball.
I mean, I'm the biggest fan of DeSantis because of what he's doing.
Because he doesn't care at all what the left thinks about him.
He doesn't care about the political standards that we're supposed to live by.
He uses the power that he has and he gets things done in a way that no other Republican governor has really done in recent memory.
tim pool
Have you seen the left, they'll say like, Republicans are steamrolling Democrats because they're too weak.
Have you seen that rhetoric?
It's amazing.
So to the left, if they don't get everything they want, Republicans are steamrolling them.
To the right, if they only concede a little bit, they're doing all right.
That's the amazing thing to me.
Republicans are like, well, we're going to give the Democrats what they want.
You know, you got Mitch McConnell.
They're not talking about red flag laws.
And I'm just like, yo, there is no right in this country.
There's none.
I love it.
I'm being somewhat facetious.
The left says, there is no left in this country.
Every single politician is far right.
Oh, okay.
Name the politician who just stood up and said, in the wake of what we've just seen in this country, it's time to repeal the NFA.
It is time to repeal all gun laws as infringements and violations of the Constitution.
Sorry, it doesn't happen.
You got a handful of Republicans who talk about it.
Some people, I think, have proposed bills, but the Republican Party is not going out saying repeal gun laws.
The Democrats are saying ban guns.
I'm not saying that every Democrat is saying ban all guns.
I'm saying they have quite literally banned a ton of them.
They now want to ban assault weapons, which is meaningless.
Where is the Republican Party to come out, stand up, and yell, we have to unban selective fire rifles?
No, because there is no right.
There is a slow down there, Democrats, and then Democrats.
That's what we have.
unidentified
A speed limit is conservatives are just leftist driving the speed
limit.
Essentially what it is every time you give the left an inch they take
a mile. The only reason why we are in this situation is because
conservatives historically have been so weak to not let
anything happen.
And this is kind of my gripe with libertarianism that kind of got me
in trouble on the Michaela Peterson podcast when I talked about this
which I'll say again because I think anyway libertarianism
in essence is you know it's the kind of liberal
answer of saying you know if it happens at someone else's home, then it's fine.
Whatever happens outside there, it's okay.
That's kind of the libertarian answer.
I don't want other people to get involved in my life.
And as soon as you have that, again, pitted up against the ideology of leftism that is revolutionary in its essence, then you get a society that continually gets steamrolled by these types of people.
So if you have these, like, classical liberal types, I don't know exactly who you guys are, but you have these classical liberal types that say, live and let live, the left will steamroll you every time because you continue to give up things to them.
tim pool
Yes.
lydia smith
The party that just wants to be left alone will always lose to the party that wants to win.
Where's what we're seeing?
tim pool
This is what I love to say to my anarchist friends.
I don't care if they're... The left anarchists don't believe right-wing anarchists exist.
And I think it's really funny.
lydia smith
They're denying their existence.
tim pool
They do, they do.
They're like, you can't be a capitalist and an anarchist.
It's like, you can, but sure, whatever.
But I like to just say, where's the great anarchist civilization?
Sorry, there isn't one.
I mean, there was like a brief period in Catalonia where there was like an anarchic state or whatever.
You've got some parts of Mexico today.
But the reality is that without a centralized authority, you get steamrolled by authoritarians who exploit your, for the most part, peaceful nature.
This is what really bugs me, too, about conservatives.
Anarchists are not violent.
And I say this to all of his people on the Political Compass memes subreddits and things like that.
They're like, libertarian left and they show Antifa.
And I'm like, dude, you can't be libertarian and violently beat someone with a bike lock into submission so they do what you want politically.
That is authoritarian.
You are like, adhere to the authority or I will beat you.
That is not libertarian.
Left libertarian are like hippies on a farm sharing their watermelon.
Right libertarians are the farm, you know, one town over that's selling the fertilizer to the hippies in exchange for watermelon.
But people don't understand that.
They think left libertarian in the political spectrum is like woke people.
No, no, no, no, no.
Woke is authoritarian left.
We will destroy your life unless you adhere to our ideology.
You do not see left libertarians all that often.
unidentified
You just don't.
ian crossland
I'm thinking about like the people sitting still, maybe the libertarians, people that don't want to be bothered by the outside world.
They'll be surrounded, rooted out and destroyed usually by a stronger state force.
So the Romans, the way they figured out was we're just going to kill and subjugate our neighbors so that no one can come and take us.
But that's the imbalance.
That's like the, the authoritarian imbalance.
At some point it's state versus state, whether that's your house and his house, you both have your doors locked.
You, you, maybe you know each other.
Maybe you share keys, but I doubt it.
And like, so where do you guys, where do you fall on the balance of state power?
unidentified
I'm actually more of a, I think the state could actually do more in some ways and less in others.
I mean, I think there's a lot, I actually, we took a trip, Eva and I, on one of the first times that we ever saw each other.
We went to Budapest and I gave a speech there and I think that a lot of the things that Hungary is doing is actually quite successful.
Where they understand the power that they have to make people's lives better and they emphasize the family and people are doing Pretty well in Hungary.
I mean, they're having great economic recovery, and the family unit, I mean, the child tax credits that you're getting in Hungary, like, if you have up to four kids, you can get a free car from the government.
Free car, yeah.
You get a car from the government in some ways.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Illiberal democracy is not a dirty word there.
unidentified
Right, exactly.
tim pool
Illiberal.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Illiberal, yeah.
tim pool
The left today is illiberal.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Right, but what they mean by that is the idea that you can have a democratic society, which, I mean, Hungary is, but still not embrace liberal values.
tim pool
You know, I'll tell you this.
Communism, it works.
I'm going to wait until people get pissed off and then I'm going to tell you.
It works in two circumstances.
An extremely small population, like a family itself, where the dad is in charge and gives everyone what they need to do their thing.
eva vlaardingerbroek
But we wouldn't really call that communism.
tim pool
It's a commune, right?
But it also works when you have an ideologically homogenous culture.
You get a thousand people that all blindly follow each other and agree with their cult ideology, and you will have this functioning society.
The problem is, communists always try to enact that, and there's only one way to do it.
Kill everyone who disagrees.
Which is why, in reality, communism never works.
Because there are too many different ideas, too many different people, they'll never agree with each other unless you have some weird small cult.
unidentified
Yeah.
What does the left think democracy is?
The left thinks democracy is when it's only their opinion.
Right.
Everyone else's opinion gets shut down by evil.
There's a difference, I'm not sure if you read the book, Jonathan Haidt, his book on, what's it called?
I can't remember the book, but essentially he does studies on the difference between... The righteous mind?
The Righteous Mind, right?
lydia smith
I think so, yeah, where people disagree.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, and so conservatives, their outlook on the world believe that people are naturally born not good and that we have to overcome our bad natures to do good things in society, whereas leftists think that, okay, people are actually born good, but there's a small group of evil people that we have to take out so that we can have this good society.
That's why you hear conservatives call leftists brainwashed, where leftists call conservatives evil most of the time.
And so that difference.
Yeah.
tim pool
Now, now the right is calling the left evil.
unidentified
Yeah.
Which is good.
tim pool
Which is good.
unidentified
Yeah.
eva vlaardingerbroek
We should start.
unidentified
Yeah.
Great.
eva vlaardingerbroek
A little bit earlier.
unidentified
Exactly.
Like that difference is what makes it.
tim pool
Whenever I point out a periodically, we'll say like, Hey, you know, we invite leftists on the show all the time.
They don't come.
Only a couple of ever come.
I've done that, and then I get these prominent leftists who are like, I'll come on your show!
And I'm like, awesome, we will pay your travel, we'll get you the fanciest hotel, we'll give you, you get a limo, whatever you want!
Then they privately message me saying, I'm not going on your show.
It was all performative, it was all, they wanna, they wanna hoot and holler in front of their followers like, I'll do it!
And then behind the scenes say, oh, you know, I can't, sorry, it won't happen.
So I point out.
Whenever I say this, what happens is the prominent left personalities refuse to do it.
Or they'll try and play this dirty game where they'll be like, I'd absolutely love my appearance fee is $15,000 some nonsense.
Like trying to do things knowing that we would not ever do it, so they can say we canceled on them or something.
But then we get lower, like, people with a smaller body of work or less followers.
And they'll be like, I'll do it!
And here's what you realize when you, okay, well, we're gonna try and be fair and have these people on.
They have no idea what they're talking about.
You ask them to elaborate the ideas, they have no idea.
They'll say, what?
I don't understand, huh?
What do you mean?
And they'll just keep repeating slogans.
The higher profile leftists, I believe for the most part, they know why not to engage with people who are in the liberty side of things.
Because it's not all conservatives.
Like, you were mentioning classical liberals.
I've always considered myself social liberal, which is basically the mirror image.
It's a centrist libertarian position.
But we, you know, we have a bunch of people on the show all the time we disagree.
Like Seamus is pro-life.
I'm, I would say more so pro-choice.
I hate saying pro-choice because... They're gonna say pro-death for a second.
The left has just gone so crazy with it, but we disagree all the time.
The more prominent leftists know that they can't actually come on this show because they will be obliterated.
Because their ideas have no merit for the most part.
I agree with some of left-wing, you know, ideas and stuff, and I can argue that.
I can agree with some of the criticisms about, you know, unfettered markets and things like that.
But when it comes to facts, is Joe Biden corrupt?
Yes.
It is a fact that he went to Ukraine and threatened to withhold U.S.
aid in exchange for the firing of a prosecutor who happened to have been investigating a company where his son worked.
I'm not saying that's why he did it, but any politician going to a foreign leader and saying, I will unilaterally suspend a U.S.
debt obligation to you That's corruption.
They accuse Trump of doing that.
Now, if you bring on one of these left personalities, they'll deny it.
They'll say that never happened.
Nope, never happened.
I bring these people on.
We show them the video and they're just like, what?
unidentified
What about the Steele dossier?
tim pool
What about Hillary Clinton's role in approving these things?
They don't read the news.
ian crossland
It's tough because Eisenhower warned us about the liberal economic order,
the military industrial complex.
And it was like, yo, we just built like a world police, just so you know
and watch out because it's going to try and take over the country.
And it did within like two years.
But it's like culture shock.
People didn't know that till about 12 years ago when the Internet appeared.
Now we can study like, you know, the Federal Reserve and the military liberal economic order.
And so they're like having cognitive dissonance.
And when you if you really want to shake someone off out of this, like, I don't know if you call it leftism or what, but this liberal, this liberal Or the idea of just believing whatever the establishment says, I guess.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Yeah, I feel like that's more how I go about things now is divide people within the people who know and people who don't know, so to say, because you're not I feel like there's no way that you're going to wake someone up to the fact that there are no 73 genders, you know, like, if you still believe that now, or if that is your, your world, I'm, I'm not going to try and convince you that there are only two sexes.
I'm just, I'm over that.
You know, that's done.
And I feel like most conservatives should be more or less done with that now.
tim pool
I tweeted simply, neo-pronouns are made up.
Because they literally are.
unidentified
Wait, what is a neo-pronoun?
tim pool
Like Zee, Zem, Zer.
unidentified
Oh.
I don't even know what that is.
tim pool
They're literally made up.
And I don't mean that in a disparaging way.
It's like people sit down and then try and come up with pronouns.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Yeah.
tim pool
So I just tweeted, neo-pronouns are made up because no one disagrees.
And boy, they got so angry at me.
eva vlaardingerbroek
It's in the word, neo, new.
So it must be.
tim pool
They were just like, everything's made up, you idiot, you moron.
eva vlaardingerbroek
And I was like, no, but that's what they think.
That's what they think.
They think that everything is a social construct.
So of course that's what they're going to say to you.
tim pool
Words are made up, right?
And, and words get meaning all the time, but it is not in dispute among the left or the right that neoprenons are made up.
That's why I thought it was funny to state something that was just like a flat statement of fact.
And they got mad about it.
unidentified
They think the way you're saying it is disparaging in a way.
eva vlaardingerbroek
That's also just you.
tim pool
This is the funny thing.
Hassan Piker once made a joke, so I screen grabbed it and just reposted it because I thought the interaction was funny.
And then he responded as though I didn't understand his joke.
The assumption is always adversarial.
ian crossland
It's because of your Twitter picture, you look mad.
If you were happy and laughing in your Twitter picture, people would think the things you were typing were happy.
tim pool
You know, I respond to people like these leftist personalities all the time, either to agree with them on certain issues and like not approach them in an adversarial way, but their followers do not like it.
I think it's hilarious.
unidentified
I mean, on Twitter, it's the worst.
You get way more negative replies on Twitter than positive replies most of the time.
ian crossland
In text in general, there's no context.
tim pool
Most people in their own bubbles will get their own bubble.
But I'll see, like, Vosh tweets something, and if he says something I agree with about guns or whatever, then I'll respond affirmatively, and his followers are just like, You can't agree, that's not allowed!
Let me pull up this story from CNN Business so we can have the last segment just be fun.
From CNN, Walmart apologizes for selling Juneteenth ice cream.
So they tried to make a woke ice cream and the woke attacked them for it.
Why are we worried about these people?
unidentified
What does it taste like?
tim pool
What did they say?
They say great value.
unidentified
Oh, my favorite flavor.
tim pool
See, this is why they got mad.
ian crossland
Oh, the branding.
tim pool
No, no, it's because everyone knows great value is like the bargain bin.
So that's certainly why they're mad.
Like, hey, well, we're not bargain bin.
We want Ben & Jerry's.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
When they do it, it's cool.
unidentified
There's no Juneteenth at Erewhon Market.
tim pool
So what did they say?
They said it was a red velvet flavored ice cream.
What is red velvet?
unidentified
Isn't that just like red vanilla, basically?
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
It's just like a lot of red dye in a vanilla cake or something with cream cheese on it.
unidentified
Wait, but shouldn't it be like chocolate ice cream?
tim pool
Oh, is it chocolate?
ian crossland
Juneteenth, yeah.
unidentified
Right?
ian crossland
Chocolate, is that racist?
unidentified
Velvet?
ian crossland
I don't know.
There's melanin.
unidentified
There's melanin in this cake.
tim pool
One critic on Twitter said, highlighted why it's important to have diverse voices at the table when making strategic business decisions.
When you don't, you end up making costly, foolish mistakes.
Dude, this is the most tepid and, like, normal thing you can do to celebrate Juneteenth.
lydia smith
A holiday.
Any holiday.
tim pool
Right.
They made a holiday-themed ice cream.
They do it all the time.
We have a maracone dream with Stephen Colbert.
That's great, yeah.
Yeah.
And so, I think what we actually see here is that no matter what you do when you try to pander to these people, you'll never win.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
Yeah, you're just you're just wasting your time.
ian crossland
It's kind of like when your enemy's making a mistake, don't stop them.
But at the same time, if your enemy's making a mistake and the mistake is destroying your environment, then maybe you need to stop them.
tim pool
We got it.
We got a fact check.
Adrian Curry said red velvet is chocolate.
ian crossland
That's what I thought.
unidentified
Really?
Yeah.
Okay, so then it is works for Juneteenth.
lydia smith
Yeah, but it's red.
tim pool
Maybe that's why they got mad.
unidentified
I guess.
Yeah.
I don't know.
ian crossland
Buttermilk, eggs.
Hey, who had an issue with this?
Oh, this says vanilla and cocoa.
So I guess we're all right.
unidentified
Well, they shouldn't have put vanilla in it.
ian crossland
Buttery.
unidentified
The gall.
tim pool
They cancelled it!
ian crossland
That's crazy.
tim pool
Who cancelled it?
They apologized.
Walmart!
unidentified
So they're not selling it anymore?
tim pool
We gotta rush out and buy some.
unidentified
Yeah, if anyone has some, send it to the show.
I would love to try some Juneteenth.
I still have the old Aunt Jemima bottles.
Yeah, so do we.
With the old Uncle Ben's Rise.
I have that.
We did a cancel culture on my show.
tim pool
I think it's funny how the woke people are only getting mad about the black people on branding.
It's like Mr. Clean's fine.
This is Butterworth.
It's not even black and they got rid of that.
ian crossland
Did you guys ever read Bomb Pops?
It's red, white, and blue.
unidentified
Bomb Pops?
ian crossland
It's red, white, and blue.
unidentified
That sounds racist.
ian crossland
No, it's a red, white, and blue, uh, what do you call it?
tim pool
That sounds very American, though.
unidentified
A bomb pop?
Sponsored by the Obama administration?
ian crossland
Look at bomb pops, dude.
I used to eat these when I was little.
It's red, white, and blue, and they called it, like, a bomb.
Like, how militaristic is our society?
lydia smith
I used to eat these.
tim pool
Bro, we had bombs.
ian crossland
Like, they were teaching me as a kid, drop bombs.
It's American of you.
tim pool
Bomb pop.
The ice cream truck would pull up, and you'd get a bomb pop, and it was like... Explosively awesome.
What was it even made of?
lydia smith
Cherry, lime, and blue raspberry.
tim pool
No, it's water and sugar.
The ingredients are water, sugar, corn syrup, and high fructose corn syrup.
unidentified
That's what you're eating.
tim pool
I just love that it's red, white, and blue, and it's a bomb.
unidentified
It's a Dutch flag.
It's not American.
lydia smith
It's Russian.
unidentified
that's that it off the approved isn't it right is that it's like
like a butterfly it's not americans are trying to get a sense of fresh air
ian crossland
french i think actually Oh, OK.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Well, we can we can fight over it.
lydia smith
French, Dutch, French, Russian.
tim pool
I just think like you have this red, white and blue for Americans.
It's obviously America, right?
It's a bomb that should be offensive to Americans because it's like, how dare you put bomb in America together as if to imply we think it's hilarious.
unidentified
I think it's awesome.
tim pool
I think it's funny.
And it's like, yeah, America does bomb a lot of kids.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So selling it.
But like then the Juneteenth things happen.
These people get mad about everything.
Like if somebody, if somebody, you know, you see it with Ben Shapiro all the time, they'll make fun of him and he laughs and he rolls with it.
He's like, I don't care, dude.
It's funny, you know?
I see people post memes about me and I think it's funny.
These people just want to be angry all the time.
unidentified
Because they're life meaning.
If you have no meaning in your life, then of course you want to be angry.
ian crossland
I tried to listen to angry people.
I was like, you know what, I feel like communication can overcome whatever we need to.
So I'm like, I'll give it a chance.
And you listen to them and like, okay, they're feeling better.
And then they start, then I get insulted by them.
And I'm like, I can only handle so much.
I don't have so much time in the day.
I don't want to waste 12 of my next, like, at some point, receiving the abuse is no longer tolerable.
tim pool
Yeah, we had to build a rage room in the house.
It's this small padded room, because Ian will get on Twitter, and they start shaking, and we're like, quick, get him to the room!
ian crossland
And then we put him in, and he's like, argh!
unidentified
I broke it.
Ava's going to need one of those after living with me for a little bit longer.
eva vlaardingerbroek
No Twitter needed.
unidentified
Just you.
No, I mean, I deal with these angry people.
I mean, I've done plenty of events, speaking events.
We're all of people.
I did one at University of Northern Colorado.
And they told me I had to wear a mask while I spoke.
And I said, you know, no, not wearing a mask when I speak.
And I take the mask off as soon as I get up on stage.
And these about 50 Black Lives Matter thugs come.
They're flipping the tables.
They're giving death threats to the people who are there.
They're taking their mask off, telling me to put my mask on.
And they're just threatening children.
I mean, it's really terrible.
It's angry, angry people.
lydia smith
I am curious what their main complaint was with this Juneteenth thing.
I would think that this would be great, but they're all like, oh, you didn't have enough diverse ones.
tim pool
Yeah, no, they're like, oh no, we're winning the culture war and Walmart's supporting our ideology.
Quick, we can't claim victimhood.
Get rid of it.
lydia smith
Really?
unidentified
Basically.
eva vlaardingerbroek
The revolution eats its own.
lydia smith
It does.
It absolutely does.
ian crossland
I just looked up the Netherlands flag.
Is it really that trippy?
Is it the one where it looks like you're looking into like a burst of color, like red, white, and blue all flying past you?
eva vlaardingerbroek
No, it's just red, white, blue.
lydia smith
Stripes.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Three stripes.
ian crossland
I got that one, but then I got this one.
eva vlaardingerbroek
What are you getting?
unidentified
So there's the Amsterdam flag, which is different than the Dutch flag.
eva vlaardingerbroek
There we go.
unidentified
Yeah, that's the Dutch flag.
eva vlaardingerbroek
See, so you're... were they bomb pops?
unidentified
Yeah.
Bomb pops.
tim pool
Oh, you're right.
The color scheme is interesting.
unidentified
It's just the Dutch flag.
lydia smith
It's Dutch.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Are you gonna bomb us?
unidentified
We saved you.
tim pool
Ah, no, it's the French flag.
See, because the French is red, white, then blue, so if the bomb pop was sideways, it would be France.
unidentified
Okay, so if it's flying this way, it's... If it's sitting up right, it's Dutch.
tim pool
It's not the Russian flag, because the Russian flag is white, blue, red.
lydia smith
That's right.
unidentified
So it's funny, since Ava moved into my place, I put a big Dutch flag up in my place, but I was talking to her, like, people don't know flags very well, and I have a person who comes and watches my dog when I go out of town, and I'm worried that he's going to think I have this huge Russian flag in my place, talking about Ukraine and everything.
tim pool
You know, I went and got yogurt.
We were out on the weekend and we all went to like a game store and then got yogurt.
And there's like a chalkboard there and it was just like chalk for anyone to draw.
And people drew Ukrainian flags.
And it was like right on the start of all this stuff and I was just like, this is the stupidest thing ever.
You have no idea what you're supporting.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
None.
eva vlaardingerbroek
It's on the trans flag now, right?
unidentified
Or the... Yeah, the new trans flag.
tim pool
What's the source for that?
I could not find it.
unidentified
I don't know.
eva vlaardingerbroek
I've been seeing it everywhere on Twitter.
tim pool
I think people were making that up.
unidentified
Probably.
eva vlaardingerbroek
I could definitely be real.
I wouldn't put it past them.
tim pool
The pride flag has the trans triangle with the black and brown in it.
And then the rainbow to represent folks, I think they call it.
And now there's one going around with yellow and blue for Ukraine.
But I've not seen any official leftists like account or organization use that.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Yeah.
Okay.
ian crossland
I'm looking forward to getting away from rectangular flags and starting new shapes.
tim pool
Three-dimensional flags.
ian crossland
Yeah, stuff like that.
tim pool
It's like, wait, is it a square or a rectangle?
It's a square, run!
unidentified
Attack!
ian crossland
It's a cube!
tim pool
It's a cube, attack!
Yeah, you're right, it's a cube.
Is it a rhombus?
That means you attack.
ian crossland
They probably just have rectangular flags because they flow better in the wind.
Maybe they're easier to mass produce.
I'm getting kind of tired of it.
It's kind of boring.
unidentified
The next revolution.
ian crossland
That's the liberal left.
tim pool
We're going to do big TV screens instead of flags in the future.
It's like, why use a flag?
Just put up a big TV.
unidentified
Why do we have flags?
I mean, I guess it's an Elon Musk announcement.
tim pool
Flags, it's obvious.
So you knew if you were safe.
Like, you're off in the middle of nowhere, and you see a flag of your country, you know you can go there and you're safe.
ian crossland
The enemy could fly your flag.
Well, that's what they call false flags.
tim pool
They wouldn't, because then... Right.
But if they did, they would get attacked by their people.
So, you had to be careful about it.
Plus, it's really... You know what's always weird to me is, like, rules of war, where it's like, if I have a white flag, I'm going to respect that.
I'm like, why?
Why would anyone do that?
You know, but back in the day, it's like, you flew a white flag, they'd be like, alright, come on in.
Let's talk.
I guess because you want war to end, so you need to have some understanding, but...
unidentified
There was still a lot of foul play in wars back then.
tim pool
Oh yeah, for sure.
ian crossland
Back then.
unidentified
This war in Ukraine is just totally honorable and great.
No problems whatsoever.
ian crossland
Accurate media coverage.
Vietnam had some accurate media coverage.
That was the last time they realized, we're not going to put reporters in the war anymore.
We're going to give you a cookie-cutter look at what's happening.
The first Iraq war apparently had a friend in the war.
They were like, yo, We would laugh at the media coverage of the tanks rolling down the desert.
We were kicking in doors and mowing down families.
It was just horrific.
tim pool
The war propaganda for Ukraine is just, to me, it's laughable.
You go on Reddit, and it's just like, here's a Ukrainian soldier giving a warning to Russians, and it's like the camera's at a low angle, pointed up at a guy, and he's got a cigar, and he's like, listen here, Russia!
But he's saying it like Ukrainian, and he flicks the cigar, and he's like, we're coming for you!
And then all the comments are like, And I'm like, come on, dude.
It's just all propaganda.
And they're like, I loved when they reported about Mariupol getting conquered by Russia and they're like cessation of hostilities.
It's like, what does that mean?
The fighting stopped.
And why?
Because Russia won.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
That's what we're trying to get to.
unidentified
Right.
Yeah.
ian crossland
How do you guys think of yourself, like on the balance of white pill and black pill, if you had to do a percentage scale?
unidentified
Maybe a little bit.
So, again, as a Christian myself, baptized Christian about a year and a half ago, I mean, I'm definitely in... I understand that all the things that are happening now are indicative of what human nature is.
I mean, when you read scripture and understand, I mean, these things are kind of called out in a lot of ways of how people are going to act within the world.
It's basically foretold, so many of the things.
I'm not one to say revelations or anything right now.
That's not what I'm saying.
But many of the ways that humans are acting right now It's basically how humans are going to act.
You will sin, you will go against your creator, all these kind of things.
And so I see that as very natural.
And so it's kind of white-pilling to know that if you have the truth on your side, then even if 99% of the culture is against you, you know what is true.
And that's white-pilling to me.
But then it's also black-pilling in the sense like culture really sucks.
And there's a lot of things that are going really terribly right now.
eva vlaardingerbroek
No, I've gone down the rabbit hole a fair amount, especially during the COVID days, you know, the vaccine mandates and everything.
It came real close in Europe, mandatory vaccinations.
In Austria, it was really like, it was a matter of a month or so, and then suddenly they dropped it.
And for me now to get to be here in the US, the only reason I'm here right now is because I was able to travel on exemption ground.
People don't know this.
tim pool
been it you can't you can't enter the US unless you're vaccinated yes that's
eva vlaardingerbroek
exactly it Wow yeah the other way around same thing so unvaccinated citizens US
citizens can go to Europe and unvaccinated European citizens can go to
the US so I was only right now right now and nobody talks about it people don't
know this how do you get an exemption well I got a government letter because
I'm gonna I'm gonna do some humanitarian work So the humanitarian exemption is one of them, but there are very few.
And I'm a lawyer, so I got this opportunity because I have the knowledge to do so.
But other people, you know, I get messages from people every day who haven't seen their family and their friends in years because of these regulations, because of these restrictions.
So those are, you know, those are evil.
tim pool
What about medical exemptions?
unidentified
The medical exemptions are very, very rare.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Very rare.
Yeah, they won't give them out to you.
I thought they ended all this stuff.
Well, not for the travel.
unidentified
No, I thought the travel stuff ended.
No one knows this.
I mean, for me to come to Amsterdam to see her, I mean, the regulations in place, the things that we had to go through, it was just insane.
eva vlaardingerbroek
No, between America and Europe, it definitely didn't end.
And in Europe, within Europe, a lot of it ended, but they're still working on the European digital identity.
I don't know if you guys ever talk about any of that.
ian crossland
Not enough.
eva vlaardingerbroek
I would love to talk to you about it.
ian crossland
We can go deeper on the after show into that.
In a nutshell, what is it?
eva vlaardingerbroek
Oh, yeah, well, the European digital identity project is a project by the European Commission, which is basically to make a basically a passport, a digital passport for every single person in Europe.
So every single European citizen will have a digital app that well, basically, the digital COVID pass was The first stage of.
So everyone in Europe had a digital VaxPass.
I feel like a lot of Americans don't know that.
That was used to give you access to like everyday things.
So to go to restaurants for example you would need to get your app scanned To get into the restaurant.
So, you know, VaxPass is the ones that you have the paper ones that you can, you know, you couldn't in Europe.
So you were just excluded from society if you didn't have this pass.
tim pool
There are many countries in Europe that have lifted entry requirements for vaccination.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
So the question is, once you get into the Schengen zone, are you then able to go to...
eva vlaardingerbroek
Yeah.
tim pool
Okay, so you can't fly into the Netherlands.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Nope.
tim pool
But you can fly into Poland and then travel from there to the Netherlands.
eva vlaardingerbroek
No, because Poland is also in a Schengen zone.
So no, you won't be able to.
tim pool
It says Poland, well I just pulled up Schengen visa info.
It says Poland has dropped entry requirements for travelers.
eva vlaardingerbroek
For Americans.
tim pool
It says, uh, well, I, it just says it also depends on the risk of the country that they're coming from.
Restriction free entry to all travelers.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Well, maybe they've done that now for a couple of countries then.
That's good.
tim pool
You can see Austria hasn't.
eva vlaardingerbroek
The Netherlands is not in there.
tim pool
Belgium hasn't.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Yeah.
So then with it, if you are in Europe, then you could go, but for at least for my country, for example.
tim pool
Cause this is, this is what I heard.
Someone was telling me that they had to fly to like Poland and then take a train because they wouldn't allow you to come in via plane.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Well, that's relatively new then, because there was an EU travel ban in force for basically the entire continent.
I think this is probably the result of the fact that they've dropped a lot of restrictions also for Europeans.
tim pool
Yeah, look at this.
unidentified
Look at this.
tim pool
Sorry to interrupt you.
In the Netherlands, it says travelers from third countries are still subject to the entry rules, but not if you're coming from the EU Schengen area.
That is insane.
eva vlaardingerbroek
See how arbitrary all of this is?
It makes no sense.
unidentified
Like someone from Germany is going to be safer than someone from New York.
tim pool
No, no, but you can fly to Germany and then come and they don't care.
unidentified
Right.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Yes.
tim pool
Makes no sense.
unidentified
Yeah.
eva vlaardingerbroek
But so I had to.
Yeah.
Well, but I mean, you still would have to get, for example, now vaccinated travelers who go from Europe to America also still need to get tested.
tim pool
Well, well, hold on there.
eva vlaardingerbroek
We all know the southern border has no security, so... Honestly, I think it would have been easier for me to go from Mexico into the US than to get this exemption ground that I now have to go in a legal way.
But I'm a lawyer, I need to go in a legal way, you know?
And this is all... I can do all of these things, so that's great.
But for other people who don't have the option, you know, that's just... it's heartbreaking.
And it's all arbitrary, it's evil.
But yeah, the digital identity thing, that is really something you guys should look into because it's really, really scary.
And that's a much bigger thing that's not just going to include your VAC status, but it's going to include biometrical data.
It's going to include your taxes.
It's going to include potentially even, you know, central bank digital currencies if it comes to that.
So the European Union is incredibly focused on the digitalization of your everyday life.
So basically your entire life will become an airport experience where you have to check in and check out if it's up to these people.
unidentified
I was very shocked when I came to Europe and experienced that for the first time.
eva vlaardingerbroek
It's so scary.
It's really scary.
I feel like you guys should be really thankful that it's not as far yet here.
tim pool
Well, you know, we have guns.
unidentified
Yeah.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Right but this is this is I think we've talked about this a lot during the COVID times you know when we had the lockdowns and and in Europe in the Netherlands it was crazy we had curfews we had the lockdowns obviously we had the vax passes which basically track you everywhere you go so the government knows everything about you whether you can go to restaurants or not all these things were all dependent on whether you had this digital pass and obviously they are Was there a corporation that built those?
Or was it the government that built them?
You know, you're really screwed if you don't have them.
ian crossland
Was there a corporation that built those or was it the government that built them?
eva vlaardingerbroek
It was a government that built them.
And there was a European system as well.
So they had the European digital covid pass, which was exactly what it what they
mentioned in the in the reports was sort of the beginning phase of this digital
wallet that they're going to use for every single European citizen for much more
than just just your back status.
tim pool
So we got to we're gonna go to Super Chat.
I just want to give a shout out to Denmark, man.
You've probably been there a lot, right?
eva vlaardingerbroek
Actually, that's the one country I haven't been to.
tim pool
You've never been to Denmark?
eva vlaardingerbroek
I've never been to Denmark.
It's like right there.
I've been to Norway.
Yeah, I've been to Norway.
I've been to Sweden.
I've never been to Denmark, but I would love to go.
tim pool
I'm just, you know, I'm reading these countries.
I saw Denmark was on the list of like, you can freely travel there.
And I've, it's weird.
I've been to Copenhagen so many times.
And Christiana, have you ever, have you ever traveled there?
ian crossland
Negative.
tim pool
The free city of Christiania.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Oh, I've heard of that.
tim pool
Yeah.
They like declared independence from Europe.
And they're just kind of like, no one pays taxes or something.
It's crazy.
lydia smith
Amazing.
tim pool
So you can go there.
unidentified
Communism works.
tim pool
It says, now leaving the EU.
I mean, there's businesses in there.
I went and got a hot dog.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It was cool.
There's a great burger place in Copenhagen.
I loved going there.
That was fun.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Have you been to Amsterdam?
tim pool
Yes, I have.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Okay.
unidentified
Yeah.
eva vlaardingerbroek
What did you think of it?
tim pool
A lot of bikes.
A lot of bikes.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Too many.
I was only there for like a couple days though.
ian crossland
Did you take mushrooms?
tim pool
No.
ian crossland
Do you think you will next time?
tim pool
No, I don't think so.
I went to a conference and talked about the news, and then everybody was riding bikes everywhere.
It was funny.
It's like the bikes have like more rights than cars.
unidentified
Yeah.
First time I rode a bike in Amsterdam, I crashed on the bike.
ian crossland
What happened?
unidentified
First time.
Well, I thought it would be like an American mountain bike.
And I get on this bike, this Amsterdam Dutch bike, and I thought I was going to really impress Eva.
And I ran into a Range Rover.
lydia smith
Humbling.
unidentified
Very humbling, which I needed.
So it was good.
tim pool
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We're gonna be doing a bunch of other cool stuff with infrastructure and companies that are resistant to censorship.
That's gonna be a lot of fun.
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Let's read!
All right, Adara the Wholesome says, Tim, you said go buy a billboard.
Well, I can't afford a physical one, and I think Ian would argue that this is a digital one.
Tim, take my money, check out Adara the Wholesome on Twitch, because I felt like it.
Spin the UFO already.
ian crossland
I'm spinning it now and I do agree with you.
unidentified
Billboards aren't that expensive.
tim pool
Let me ask you, Mr. Witt, how much do you think a billboard costs on average?
ian crossland
Whoa, that thing's spinning.
unidentified
You should ask Ava.
I actually know the answer to this question.
Oh, you do?
Because PragerU is actually trying to do billboards across the country.
eva vlaardingerbroek
I'm going to say something stupid.
unidentified
No, you'll be fine.
tim pool
Like you see a billboard on the side of the highway or on the side of a building, how much do you think it would cost?
eva vlaardingerbroek
In America?
unidentified
Yeah.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Gee, I have no idea.
I literally have no idea.
Is it going to be crazy expensive or crazy cheap?
tim pool
Yeah, so you can get for like 400 bucks a Times Square billboard for, you know, half a day or something.
unidentified
I mean, you guys did the Taylor Owens one.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Didn't we?
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
With the Daily Wire guys.
And, uh, it's, it's, you know, I don't want to get involved in the Daily Wire's business stuff, so I'm not going to say too much, but we, uh, you know, we're, we're going to be doing a bunch of ads and we're going to be, let me just put it this way, we're going to be asserting ourselves in culturally dominant spaces.
Billboards.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Cheat.
You can get like- Everyone should do this then, on the conservative side.
unidentified
Just bombard everyone with truth.
tim pool
Well, yeah, but think about, um, So, it can get expensive if you're buying a lot.
unidentified
Right?
tim pool
I think if you want to get your ad to appear in every subway of New York, and on every bus, it's like $300,000.
Wow.
For how long?
A month.
Wow.
Now, $300,000 is a lot of money.
But think about what that is.
Every subway, every bus doing a run of ads everywhere, like a couple hundred grand.
That's kind of crazy.
unidentified
Think about how much it costs to advertise on a major network just on one of the primetime shows in a week.
It's insane.
$12,000.
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, listen.
People who run businesses, like even a small business, if you have maybe a couple of restaurants, you're going to be making maybe a million bucks.
It doesn't mean that you have a million bucks in cash and you're a millionaire.
It means your company generates revenue.
It is not out of the question for any one of these conservative businesses to do these things, especially the Daily Wire guys.
They have a Times Square billboard for Harry's.
They could afford to basically take over a city in terms of just every major highway saying, you know, you know, it's also about what's effective.
So for us, we're looking at ways that we can culture jam as marketing.
So we want to do things that are going to, you know, we just, you know, I don't, I don't want to say anything yet because in a few days we're going to be doing something, so I won't reveal it, but I just want to make sure all the blue checkie journalists are frustrated every single day.
And, you know, so yeah.
So anyway, it's not so in Times Square, for instance, If you go on these digital sellers, these websites where they do automatic sales, it's like $4 per play of a video on one of the biggest billboards.
unidentified
$4.
tim pool
So it's like, okay, spend $40 and boom, you're there for, you know, it'll get you like two hours worth.
Your video will play in a rotation.
If you spend $400, you're going to be there all day.
People don't know that.
I mean, not everybody has $400 to spend on something like that.
But yeah, I mean, it's not out of the question for the average person if you want to do something ridiculous.
All right, let's see what we got.
Alex Lindquist says, just got out of a three-year coma.
Please explain.
Aliens took over.
A rift in the time-space continuum.
Witches came out, cast spells, and here we are.
And you're healthy.
That's right.
All right.
Spiro Floropoulos says, I have purchased SourcesSay.online and begun coding the word queue system.
Should be ready this week.
Did you hear about my idea?
unidentified
No.
Well, depending.
tim pool
You can't sue Wikipedia for defamation because of Section 230.
You also can't sue an individual editor because they've made no statements.
If you were to write on Wikipedia, Ian Crossland pet a dog.
Well, that's not defamatory.
Ian has pet dogs probably in the past year or so.
unidentified
That's true, yeah.
tim pool
So you've said nothing wrong.
Wikipedia has said nothing wrong.
Then Lydia goes in and changes pet to ate.
She did not accuse Ian of eating a dog.
ian crossland
Filthy liar.
tim pool
All she did was say one word.
ian crossland
Who do I blame?
unidentified
You.
tim pool
Who does he sue?
He can't sue you and he can't sue her because no one said anything.
That makes no sense.
So I said, I mean I'm sure, my argument is actually you can sue, Wikipedia should be liable, but you've got to get the lawsuit so precedent is set to answer that question.
So we have this idea for something called Sources Say.
Someone gave us the name of it on the super chat.
When you load the website, you're placed in a queue.
In the queue, you are allowed to type one word.
So, we'll make an article titled, Nancy Pelosi.
And then it'll say, sources say blank.
If you're the first person in, you get the first word.
Second person in, you get the second word.
Everybody gets about 15 seconds to put their word in, and then you watch the article write itself
as everyone adds just one word.
Who gets sued?
I didn't write it, it's user generated.
Not a single user made a statement.
They all added one word.
So we can write whole articles that basically say, who knows what,
because everyone's gonna be adding random words.
And with the Q system, you'll know what's before you, so you won't, you know,
someone could sabotage it and write nonsense, but it won't fall victim to like the Twitch plays errors
where it's all a bunch of random gibberish.
unidentified
Twitch Plays Pokemon, I remember that.
tim pool
You'll see people, it's all over the place, and they're trying to struggle to get it to move.
With this, you're sitting there, you have 10 seconds, enter a word, read what you've got.
It's gonna be fun.
Maybe we'll have the time limit increase as the paragraph gets bigger, so you know what word you're adding.
So it looks like Spiro is gonna have that done, very nice.
Alright, Murph Tries says congrats to Lydia on her first opinion piece for the website.
Can't wait to read more.
Tim, a guest you should have on is Dr. Lee Stillman.
He has a substack and just had a great livestream on testosterone.
Ooh, that sounds interesting.
ian crossland
What was your first opinion piece on, Lydia?
lydia smith
So for my first opinion piece I wrote about this new study that came out that seemed to indicate that people who have more than two children have a higher risk of developing dementia later in life.
And I looked at some of the things that might make that untrue.
At first I thought it seemed a little bit like propaganda to try to prevent people from having more kids, but then it turned out They studied a bunch of European adults and they don't, they have much more of the state intervention where people will go to a nursing home instead of living with their families for longer.
And I was like, that might actually be a sign of a deep societal issue.
So I kind of looked into that and it's up on the site and I'm excited.
Happy to write for the site.
tim pool
More to come.
unidentified
Yeah.
All right.
tim pool
Mark the Mariner says, Wilwit, you are behind enemy lines by thousands of miles and will never see that goddess land?
Oh, I'm sorry, never said that godless land.
I don't know what they're trying to say, maybe it was an error.
unidentified
Maybe talking about Los Angeles?
tim pool
Yeah.
Move to Texas and convert our California refugees to the Lord.
unidentified
Hell yeah, brother.
I'm on my way.
tim pool
I was in Austin recently and apparently the Austin liberals are freaking out.
Like apparently they're telling people like, oh, these conservatives keep moving here and like it's changing the landscape of things.
What do we do?
unidentified
Good.
Good.
Keep going.
All the California conservatives should move to those places and absolutely change that.
ian crossland
It was sad what you were saying about L.A., but I think before the show, you were talking about the homeless, escalation of the homeless population on Ventura Boulevard, Hollywood Boulevard.
tim pool
You see that video of the guy who gets in a car accident?
unidentified
Yeah, we just watched it.
tim pool
The homeless guys then surround him and start looting his car.
When he tries to escape, they drag him out of the car and start beating him.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Kick him in the head.
unidentified
Vultures.
Really terrible.
And that stuff is pretty commonplace, going to be honest.
I mean, the crimes that happened on Skid Row is... Oh, man.
tim pool
One of my fondest memories of California was in Los Angeles.
And I was going to a shopping center.
I was trying to get a bubble tea.
And this big, fat woman... That's your first problem.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Getting a bubble tea.
tim pool
Oh, I love bubble tea!
Tide tea.
And so this big, fat woman walks in the middle of the street, pulls her pants down, takes them off, and just... Welcome to California!
Just relieved to herself.
And I was like, wow.
unidentified
Well, you get used to it.
eva vlaardingerbroek
America.
unidentified
Poop on the street.
I mean, like I grew up in Colorado and you don't see it too much there.
It's gotten worse in Denver, Colorado.
People know that.
But I mean, now it's just like, oh, you see a homeless person, you step over them.
That's just commonplace.
I used to go down to terrible.
ian crossland
I used to go to Skid Row back when I lived in L.A.
and I'd hand out water bottles and I'd bring a camera before iPhones.
And I was like, I want to write around that time.
I want to record these people, get their testimonials and then put it online so that people can help them.
But they never wanted to.
People were like, I don't want to be a part of it, man.
unidentified
Well, I went to Skid Row and I actually interviewed homeless people.
I did this for a documentary that I was doing called Fleeing California on PragerU.
I did that about two years ago, all about how California is failing and places like Texas are thriving.
And I went and interviewed homeless people, and you talk to so many of these people.
I talked to this one guy who was a father, and he said, yeah, I lived in Louisiana.
I had two kids and a wife, but I decided to move out to L.A., to Skid Row, to be homeless.
I'm like, you lived there in Louisiana, you had kids.
I was like, but why?
He's like, easy life, you know, I can just come out here.
They gave me a phone.
I'm like, okay, they gave you a phone?
And then you talk to these people who actually work, like in the government offices with that, the amount of administrative, I mean, this is what Tocqueville talked about when you're talking about the administrative state and democracy in America, that you have this administrative state and most of the money that is supposed to go towards homelessness, $12 billion last year in California, just goes towards administration.
tim pool
All right, let's read some more.
We got Andy Leiterman who says, watch the stream live on TimCast.com.
You can participate in the chat if you're logged into YouTube in the same browser.
Lydia looks lovely tonight.
lydia smith
Oh, thank you.
That's nice.
ian crossland
Sage-like wisdom.
lydia smith
Yeah.
He's the guy behind putting the stream on the site.
unidentified
Oh, got it.
tim pool
The master behind all the technical endeavors that we've done.
All of these trips we've done have been impossible would have been without Andy.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's fun to watch him work.
He's good.
lydia smith
Machine.
tim pool
All right.
ian crossland
He's got a limber body being a skater and all.
tim pool
Yeah.
Eric Mack says, Tim, from the show yesterday, there is an atmosphere on Mars enough for a drone to fly, and there is one on there right now.
Yes, I was corrected on that one.
We talked about how there's a drone that they flew up in the air.
That's crazy.
ian crossland
And I got a story from September 2015.
NASA confirms evidence that liquid water flows on today's Mars.
I saw that, yeah.
Pretty powerful.
All right.
So I think it's under the surface.
tim pool
Coritian says, Ava, I have Dutch ancestry.
They changed the spelling of my last name at some point in the 1700s.
It was spelled H-U-N-G-E, but the U had a dot above it.
What does it mean?
I heard it's common, like Smith is there.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Say it again, the name.
tim pool
H-U-N-G-E.
lydia smith
With an umlaut.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Oh, with an umlaut?
Okay, well that's actually very uncommon in the Dutch language.
I feel like that's German.
lydia smith
It does sound German.
eva vlaardingerbroek
So if you have an U, like that is how it would be with an umlaut.
So in German you would have the U would be an U and then with an umlaut on it would be an U sound.
I actually, we hardly have umlauts in the Dutch language.
ian crossland
What about the single dot?
Was it just a single dot?
They said a dot.
Is there anything like that?
A U with one dot on top of it?
eva vlaardingerbroek
No.
ian crossland
Okay.
eva vlaardingerbroek
No.
tim pool
Free Men Die Free says, Hey Tim, you still owe us an episode with Ron Paul.
Also, the Libertarian Party's national convention is this weekend.
Have Dave Smith and Michael Heiss on again after.
LPMC can save the US if they succeed.
ian crossland
Sure.
unidentified
That'd be great.
tim pool
Yeah, Dave's cool.
I just texted Dave earlier, man.
I love that guy.
He's so chill.
You know, I do love that, but I suppose if, like, you know, you were being invaded and some dudes in army trucks pulled up and said, I'm from the U.S.
government, we're here to help you, you'd be like, that's cool.
unidentified
Thank God.
tim pool
Yeah, right?
Like, that's a good thing.
eva vlaardingerbroek
That's maybe what you want government for.
Yes.
Defending you there.
tim pool
Yup.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Culture.
That's it.
tim pool
Reynick says there are 100,000 public schools in the United States.
If we take this completely random amount of money, $40 billion, and divide it by 100,000, the average salary for an armed security guard is about $33k a year.
That's 12 guards per school.
It's not $33k.
Maybe, maybe I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's more than that.
unidentified
Yeah, I guess it depends on the state, too.
Yeah.
I don't know.
tim pool
East F says, Biden, I did that stickers are appearing on formula shelves in Louisiana.
Oh, no.
lydia smith
Spreading.
unidentified
Wow.
lydia smith
That's bad.
tim pool
Stephen B says, Hey, Tim, did you see that Amala beat you to the Taylor Silverman interview?
Uh, everyone also beat us to the Kyle Rittenhouse interview.
I don't, I don't like the idea of this rush to like grab someone who's who like appears.
But you saw the Taylor Silverman thing, right?
unidentified
Mm hmm.
tim pool
So, I've actually spoken to her quite a bit, and we've got a plan.
I offered to cover the losses.
So, for those unfamiliar, Taylor Silverman's a skateboarder.
She competed in a contest.
A biological male won first place.
Ended up taking, I think, like $1,250 from her.
I did the math wrong, but I said I would cover the difference, which I said $2,250, because I didn't realize she didn't win Best Trick, but, you know, whatever.
We'll cover that.
So we're planning something.
I'm just not a fan of this thing that happens in the media where someone will do something and then every single media organization will be firing off emails like, you have to come on my show first, you have to come on my show first.
You know, nah, I don't want to do that.
People were like, why won't you have Kyle Rittenhouse come on?
And I'm like, Kyle Rittenhouse can come on whenever he wants, but I'm not going to do this thing like right after his court trial.
We're going to like email and be like, come on our show, not someone else.
lydia smith
Yeah, why the rush?
tim pool
I just, I just, I don't, I'm not the kind of person who likes to run full speed towards the finish line to compete with everybody else.
We'll do it when it makes sense.
unidentified
It's more about the quality than getting them on at the time.
I mean, I think.
You want something that lasts.
I mean, you'll watch Jordan, you can watch that Jordan Peterson interview he did with GQ four years later and it's still great.
It doesn't matter that it was first.
tim pool
Yeah, I want to have, uh, you know, when I, when I got started with, uh, political stuff, like when I got a bunch of attention during Occupy Wall Street, it was happening to me.
Everybody was emailing me and calling saying, come on my show, come on my show.
And then I was just like, nah, this is flavor of the week stuff.
It's like, they want to get you on to get some press.
I'm going to do my thing, mind my own business.
unidentified
You remember we did an interview on PragerU years ago?
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
You actually remember it?
tim pool
I think that was just audio though, wasn't it?
Or was it camera?
unidentified
It was like very basic.
I think it was some camera stuff on it.
When I first started at PragerU like four and a half years ago, you were one of the first interviews that I ever did.
I think I was pretty terrible.
ian crossland
Is it up online right now?
unidentified
Potentially, yeah.
You can maybe... I don't know if... No, it's not online.
I don't know if I should tell people.
It's probably pretty embarrassing.
I'm sure if you went on Facebook and you looked up Tim Pool, Will Witt, you could probably find the interview.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Will is a spring chicken.
unidentified
Little boy Will.
I think I was very clean-shaven.
eva vlaardingerbroek
You are now.
unidentified
I am now.
ian crossland
Were you 160 at the time?
unidentified
I think 150 now.
So I've put on some muscle since then.
tim pool
Alright, let's read some more.
We got, let's see...
Jean-Sebastien Matt.
Probably pronouncing that wrong.
Tim, two days ago, you guys were unsure about Canadian prices.
Because unsure of conversions, gas today was $2.00... Was it $2,059 per liter?
Times $3,785 to convert for US gallons.
Times $0.78 to convert for the currency to USD.
$5,785 to convert for US gallons times 0.78 to convert for the currency to USD my prices here are
then $5,079 per gallon maybe that's not correct. Oh
Oh, they use commas instead of periods, don't they?
lydia smith
Oh, yeah, that's right, yeah.
tim pool
Oh, he's saying $5 per gallon.
lydia smith
Yeah, okay, that's better.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
That makes more sense.
unidentified
I dropped out of college.
tim pool
You guys use commas, right?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Yep.
tim pool
That's wrong.
You're wrong.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Okay.
Well, we do dates of birth differently than you do, too.
lydia smith
Yeah, date of the month.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Yeah, which makes way more sense.
lydia smith
Yeah, your way makes more sense, I agree.
tim pool
What month?
Day, month, year?
eva vlaardingerbroek
Day, month, year.
Yeah, you start with a day, then the month, then a year.
lydia smith
Yeah, 14th October.
tim pool
Why does that make more sense?
eva vlaardingerbroek
It makes all the sense in the world.
ian crossland
Small, longer, longest.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Don't you also put the adjective after the noun?
eva vlaardingerbroek
Uh, not in Dutch.
tim pool
Not in Dutch.
Oh, okay.
That's a romance thing, isn't it?
eva vlaardingerbroek
Uh, I think, well, actually in the, well, depends a little bit.
Yeah.
In French, for example, most of the adjectives go behind.
Not all, but most.
tim pool
I kind of feel like that makes more sense.
You know?
eva vlaardingerbroek
It would be, like, dark cute.
tim pool
Yeah, because, like, you identify what it is and then explain the specific thing about it.
lydia smith
Yeah, that makes sense.
eva vlaardingerbroek
The dark cute.
Yes.
unidentified
They talk all funny, like, gotta learn to speak proper and such.
tim pool
All right, where were we?
Ander Webb says, what Will meant to say was about the Industrial Revolution is that it and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
Yeah, I think so.
unidentified
Yeah.
I mean, I think there's definitely some truth to that.
I don't think disaster is necessarily the right word, but I think there are implications that people didn't comprehend at the time that have been hugely unsuccessful for humanity as a whole.
Yeah.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Right.
Especially with what Klaus Schwab now calls the Fourth Industrial Revolution.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
That guy sounds like a Bond villain.
unidentified
Right.
eva vlaardingerbroek
He looks like one, too.
tim pool
I know!
What's up with that?
unidentified
He was with the Pfizer CEO today talking at the forum.
tim pool
That was really funny.
I watched that.
It was hilarious.
The Pfizer guy is like, I saw a picture of me in the FBI office and it said I'd been arrested.
And I'm like, how did they get that photo?
I thought it was funny.
They made it, dude!
What are you talking about?
That was good.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
That guy says, Tim, there was little to no mention of Texas on last night's IRL.
Was curious as to what was behind that decision.
Not looking to criticize, I just want to understand.
Ian, welcome back.
Weeknights aren't the same without you, bro.
ian crossland
Thanks.
tim pool
The news had just broke.
The news hasn't had any, we didn't even have a complete number on the victims.
And we had two tech guests on, so I was like, I don't know how we, like, have a conversation about Texas with these, like, tech guys, these programmers.
ian crossland
Yeah, we talked about it before the show, kind of decided against leading with it.
tim pool
It wasn't against talking about it in general.
It was just like, are we going to have a robust conversation that actually addresses the issues or are we going to mention it happened and then be like, we don't know enough about what's currently going on.
Like a lot of the information hadn't come out until this morning.
unidentified
Yeah.
I think that's probably best.
I think you guys did the good thing.
tim pool
Well, I mean, it wasn't like a moral thing.
It was just like, I don't know what to say.
Let's just try to talk about what we can't talk about.
unidentified
But that's also the right thing.
Because people will talk about things without knowing what to say.
Right, right.
tim pool
Makes things worse.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Okay, what do we have here?
There was one I was looking at.
That was pretty good.
Where'd it go?
Kevin Svensson Crypto says, Tim, the military, DARPA, and friends are deep into developing neuro-weapons.
We're talking about direct AI to brain communication.
No surgery.
DNA resonance frequency technology all remote.
This will affect us all eventually.
You guys ever see the movie Gamer?
eva vlaardingerbroek
No.
tim pool
The bad guy has like nanites or something.
And then like, if you smell it, he can control your brain.
I think that's what the movie was.
unidentified
I don't know.
But did you see there was actually an army ad that got leaked by data miners that was for, for the U.S.
Army, that was for new psychological warfare techniques.
Yeah.
Did you see that?
tim pool
I didn't see it, but I heard about it.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely insane.
With this pensive music and everything.
I mean, very trippy.
Very scary.
ian crossland
Talking plasma.
Have you heard of talking plasma?
No.
They converge lasers, like three or more lasers into a point in the sky and then it shows up on radar and they move it around and make people think they're seeing a UFO on radar.
Apparently they can make sound project through this Through this coagulation or whatever you want to call it, this conflux.
And I wonder if they can point it at people's brains and make them hear things.
unidentified
It's like diamonds are forever.
eva vlaardingerbroek
The World Economic Forum released a video during the COVID pandemic where they said, oh, you know, face masks are now making facial recognition very difficult.
And yeah, oh no.
But luckily, NASA has this technology, laser technology, where we can identify you by your heartbeat.
I don't know if you shared this, Lydia, but there was an article that said that AI can detect race based on x-rays.
I saw that.
And they just they posted that as if it was you know, I read a normal thing in the world
tim pool
I don't know if you shared this lady of it was an article.
It said that AI can detect race based on x-rays. Yes Mm-hmm. Yeah, everyone mystified by the fact and here's why
it's a bad thing, right?
Because it's like when a human looks at a skeleton, they don't know, but the AI could determine with like, was it 80, 90% accuracy or something?
lydia smith
Incredibly.
It's incredibly accurate.
I remember, hold on, quick story.
I remember there was a, they uncovered a pair of skeletons that were like clasped and braced and all the leftists are like, it's so beautiful.
There's no way of knowing, you know, how old they were or what race they were or what gender they were.
And they're actually like, nah, if you look at the pelvis you can literally tell this is a young man and this is an older woman.
tim pool
Not only that, they were like, you can tell by the mandibular area.
lydia smith
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
They were like, it's an Asian man and a white woman or something.
lydia smith
Yeah, something like that.
tim pool
They were like, you can literally determine all of that based on these features.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Biology is not politically correct.
lydia smith
It is not.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Too bad.
lydia smith
It's great.
tim pool
All right.
Robert Burroway says, not sure if you've all watched the show Upload yet, but as a social commentary, it seems pretty spot on for the way things are going.
I did watch Upload.
Have you guys seen it?
ian crossland
It's good.
tim pool
There's some things about it where it's like, meh, but they really get to this futurism.
It's really interesting.
So when you die, they can, before you die, they can upload you to a digital afterlife.
And so basically you have a guy who dies.
And so at his funeral, there's a gigantic TV and he's standing in the, like he's, he's in this virtual reality where his consciousness exists, but it looks like he's just on the other side of a window.
eva vlaardingerbroek
We just talked about this when we started the show, like as a real thing.
Right?
ian crossland
In reference, how did that come up in the beginning?
eva vlaardingerbroek
When we talked about the AI algorithms being so advanced that they can potentially take your thoughts and convert them into an algorithm that you can continue to talk to, for example, if your loved one dies.
ian crossland
Would you put your brain in a machine if you could?
eva vlaardingerbroek
No.
No.
No way.
Hell no.
ian crossland
Would you?
unidentified
Um, maybe like a birthday gift for her.
Oh yeah, I need an extra will.
No, it wouldn't be when I die.
I'd just have like 10 of you.
Everywhere she goes.
tim pool
Here's what I want you all to imagine, right?
I want you to imagine a gigantic, spherical blob monster that is black with hands and
feet coming out and like moving out and faces going like, ahhhhhh, as they like come out
of it.
And then you see it lurking towards you and then all of a sudden the face of your dead
grandfather emerges and in his voice says, join us.
We are all happy here.
And then a giant mouth opens up trying to... that's what that AI is going to be.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Klaus Schwab's voice.
tim pool
No, no, no.
It's like your loved one trying to convince you.
It's fine and safe in here.
Join us.
And then you're like, this is not real.
unidentified
They all float.
tim pool
That's what, right, that's what uploading your mind to the AI is going to be.
It's going to be joining that monster.
It's going to be walking up to it and being like, please, I'd like to be one of you.
unidentified
No way, man.
ian crossland
I wonder if you can upload only like a copy, but you still are you that dies off, then there's some random copy out there.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Yeah, I think that would be the idea.
But if, I mean, the thing is that what's so scary about this is people are going to buy it, you know, like they're going to be like, oh, this is a good thing because they're going to sell it to us under a nice pretext.
So they're going to say to you like, oh, you know, Wouldn't it be a lovely world if we could, you know, eliminate aggression?
If we want peace on earth, like we can read everyone's minds and we can take away the desire to kill.
Wouldn't that be great?
You know, we can eliminate murder.
We can have peace on earth finally.
tim pool
Yeah, it's called being the Borg.
ian crossland
Same with those, like, DNA 23andMe things.
They're like, send us your blood DNA sample and we'll give you some information you like.
eva vlaardingerbroek
And with this, it's like, oh, you don't want that?
You don't want us to read your mind?
You have something to hide?
Do you want to murder someone?
unidentified
They do that for dogs now.
ian crossland
Oh, they do?
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Interesting.
Insanity.
tim pool
Alright, let's read some more.
We got Joe Deraki says, Tim, for the love of God, will you shout out Pop Culture Crisis more?
Lids was on today's show and it was a great one.
unidentified
Yes!
tim pool
Ladies and gentlemen, Pop Culture Crisis is live Monday through Friday at 3 p.m., right?
lydia smith
That's correct.
tim pool
Hey, I got the time right.
lydia smith
Yeah, and the days.
ian crossland
A little secret treat for you guys.
I'll tell you in here now, I'm gonna be on the show tomorrow.
lydia smith
3 p.m.
tim pool
Eastern Standard Time.
And we're gonna, we're building on infrastructure stuff so that we can, we're gonna be doing a marketing push for Pop Culture Crisis.
It's all in due time.
Maybe even starting next week.
But we're doing a bunch of marketing stuff that we've never done before.
And I'm mostly trying to figure out culture jamming as marketing because who cares about buying like a commercial?
People are like, why don't you buy a commercial on Tucker Carlson, Tim?
ian crossland
Or whatever.
tim pool
And I'm like, we could.
Or I can, you know, think different.
I don't know, throw a pie or something.
unidentified
Yeah, right next to the MyPillow.
Advertisements.
tim pool
I mean, I had a really good idea for a MyPillow thing.
So we made the OurPillow.
Do you guys know about that?
unidentified
Yeah, I saw that.
tim pool
It was the burlap sack full of packing peanuts.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And I wanted to buy a commercial on Fox News advertising it.
I talked to Fox.
They said yes.
We just needed a producer who could make the commercial.
And this is where we like, I didn't have the managerial power to execute.
But here's what I wanted to do.
Commercial where we have this like post-soviet factory talking about how communist pillow is a better pillow
Because it's it's it's hard and makes you strong not not weak, you know those comfortable pillows. They make you
soft You know, you need hardship in life hard times make strong
men Yeah
and then after that commercial ends what I really want is for the my pillow commercial to start in the exact same
location and it's Mike Lindell with a bunch of my pillow factory workers raiding
the communist factory and him telling you Not to buy the communist pillow and there's like their
pillow fighting. I thought that would have been the best day ever
unidentified
This pillow makes you soft.
Yes, good pillow.
tim pool
My pillow makes you weak!
You must buy strong communist pillow!
And then Mike Lindell's like, hold on there, mister!
My pillow is the best pillow you'll ever have!
And then they storm in and kick the door in.
That would be the best thing ever.
I bet Mike would be down for that.
That would be the coolest thing.
unidentified
I think so.
tim pool
It would be like a minute long.
He'd be watching Fox.
He'd be like, what did I just watch?
unidentified
Can you get a thing in there about Dominion voting system?
tim pool
I don't think he's going to go anywhere near that.
ian crossland
The camera like spins around him like the Matrix as he's like jumping.
tim pool
All right.
We'll grab a couple more real quick.
How do you say that? Toos Nolorum says, This is the first point in history with extensive enough spying
to reconstruct an ancestor simulation with the level of detail we have in day-to-day
life.
What are the odds of that? If simulation is possible, chances are we are in one.
Crazy.
unidentified
Yeah, I don't agree.
ian crossland
Yeah, I don't think that just because something is possible that means it's probable.
But you were just asking what chance is it?
Less than 1%?
I don't know.
tim pool
Here we go.
What does it say?
Neoriter says you are wrong.
Month, day, year makes more sense.
Saying the 20th has no meaning without knowing the month.
It's just like your noun adjective choice, because the duck is cute.
So imagine it's February and you say, you know, day, what do you say, day, month, year, you know, how are you going to know if it's February or not, right?
That's it.
Yeah, Ava.
eva vlaardingerbroek
But you're all saying them anyway, right?
unidentified
So you're going to say the 5th of February.
No, I agree with this super chatter.
I think he's right.
tim pool
No, we don't say it.
We say February 5th.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Will just wants to disagree.
Yeah, I know.
I know, but we say the 5th of February.
tim pool
You're adding an extra word.
That's so inefficient.
unidentified
Right.
eva vlaardingerbroek
Listen, I'm just from here.
Okay, from there.
This is how we do it.
tim pool
I'm a conservative.
eva vlaardingerbroek
I don't like change.
tim pool
Jason says, would you kindly, a simple phrase, a man chooses, a slave obeys.
Speaking of that, my friends, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share this show with your friends, and head over to TimCast.com to become a member.
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You can follow me everywhere, Instagram, Twitter, whatever, at Timcast.
Will, do you want to shout anything out?
unidentified
Yeah, you guys can go to PragerU.com to check out any of our videos, any of the documentaries I've done, any of the five-minute videos.
If you're into any of the stuff with Dennis Prager and his wisdom, make sure you check out his Fireside Chats.
I'm on social media at TheWillWay, and you can get my book, How to Win Friends and Influence Enemies, anywhere books are sold.
tim pool
Ava?
eva vlaardingerbroek
Right.
Well, we just talked a little bit about the digital identity.
And that's a lot of that's basically what I write about most.
I have a blog called resist much obey little on Substack.
So everyone who's interested in the digitalization, fourth industrial revolution, transhumanism, and well, mostly what happens in Europe with all of these things, because like I said, it's much more advanced.
And during COVID, it was also much more advanced than here, then please go check it out.
Because you need to know what's happening there.
If you want to know what's going to happen here.
ian crossland
I think a lot of the resistance is meditation and a clear mind with no thoughts.
They're going to try and read your mind.
They're going to try and be reading thoughts.
So if you can control yourself to have none, that'll be a good resistance technique in the meantime.
unidentified
Done.
ian crossland
Let's have it.
I want to shout out the Minds Festival of Ideas.
It's going to be June 25th in New York City at the Beacon Theater.
And we're going to be speaking there.
Tim and I are both going to be speaking there.
We'll have some special guests as well.
It's a great lineup.
Go to festival.minds.com if you want to check out the lineup.
And you can get your tickets now.
I don't think it's gonna be like Woodstock.
Thank you guys all for tuning in this evening.
This was a very fun conversation.
I feel now like we should have more couples.
lydia smith
We will see all of you over at TimCast.com for that members show.
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