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Timcast IRL - Russia Threatens To CUT OFF Europe's Gas Tomorrow, War Escalates w/Brian Nichols
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ian crossland
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seamus coughlin
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tim pool
Vladimir Putin has issued his ultimatum that European nations, unfriendly nations, not just Europe, must start paying for oil from Russia in rubles, but not just that.
They have to open Russian bank accounts and handle their exchange through the Russian financial system.
This is something that is missing from many of the headlines, because they're making it sound like Vladimir Putin's just saying, look, look, look, buy rubles first.
When in reality, he's actually saying, you can still pay us in euro, but it has to go through our financial system first.
Why?
Western sanctions hurting the Russian economy.
And this is Vladimir Putin's way of saying, we're going to strike back.
Not only that, they're pegging the ruble to gold.
And instantly, the ruble recovers.
So Western sanctions fail.
Vladimir Putin now has tremendous leverage over Europe.
And everyone is kind of panicking about whether or not he'll shut off gas tomorrow.
European nations are calling his bluff saying nice try we're not gonna play these games in Germany.
They're saying this is blackmail We'll see who caves first because tomorrow is the deadline April 1st How amazing would it be if tomorrow Vladimir Putin comes out and goes on a public address?
seamus coughlin
And he's like I warned you all I would shut off your gas and April Fool's It was just a joke yeah, I mean so so hold on you're telling me Dave They've lost McDonald's isn't marketing there anymore the big banks left, and they went back to the gold standard 1980's called.
That's horrible, that's horrible.
tim pool
Alright everybody, so we're gonna talk about that and a whole bunch of other stuff I guess.
Maxine Waters yelling at homeless people to go home and they yell back, we don't have homes!
That's just funny I guess.
It's funny sad, but joining us to talk about all this is Brian Nichols.
unidentified
What's up Tim?
How you doing?
tim pool
I'm good.
Who are you?
unidentified
Who am I?
I'm the host of The Brian Nichols Show.
I'm a sales executive, and my role in this greater liberty world has been to take the ideas that we like to talk about all day long and make it so your average person will actually want to pay attention and actually buy the ideas versus just hearing us old men yells at cloud.
So yeah, bring in a little bit of the sales and marketing world, the liberty movement.
tim pool
Absolutely.
seamus coughlin
I prefer to yell at clouds.
unidentified
So does Joe Biden, but here we are.
seamus coughlin
But when I yell at a cloud, you can understand what I'm saying.
I'm not slurring.
Come on, man.
No, I'm Seamus Coghlan.
I run a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.
We create short satirical and educational cartoons.
We released one a week.
We released one today, as a matter of fact, about the transgender sports issue and how the sort of milquetoast conservative ink response is inadequate.
I think it's funnier than I just explained it.
So you guys go check it out.
I think you'll enjoy it.
ian crossland
I was also yelling at clouds earlier, but with my mind, there was a big thunderstorm coming and I was like, not tonight.
So I went up there and I dispersed the clouds above me.
seamus coughlin
No, you were thinking at clouds.
ian crossland
I was thinking I did that, yeah.
seamus coughlin
You were thinking at clouds.
ian crossland
I was thinking hard.
I was thinking very, very articulately.
tim pool
I want to point out real quick, too, for many of you who don't know, I actually am the voice of Dr. Anthony Fauci on Freedom Tunes.
And I've been auditioning for Nancy Pelosi, so I'm really hoping he gets it.
seamus coughlin
We're hoping he gets it.
It's a good impression.
I mean, if you want to do... She talks like the same as me.
tim pool
Read me on your show.
seamus coughlin
Look, if you want to give away your secret sauce, the whole audience is going to be able to do the impression now.
You've lost it.
ian crossland
Good.
seamus coughlin
Good.
Yeah.
Why not spread it?
Hey, you know what?
Maybe.
Maybe we got some Nancy Pelosi cartoons coming up.
tim pool
Everyone's going to love my Pelosi and they're going to say you should.
seamus coughlin
Well, they love it as much as your Fauci.
It's a tough one.
The Fauci is good.
The Fauci is really good.
The Fauci is what keeps the light on.
unidentified
It feels too real, honestly.
seamus coughlin
It does.
Scary.
lydia smith
Yep.
Ian, you want to finish your intro?
ian crossland
Yeah, I love you.
lydia smith
Perfect.
That's wonderful.
I didn't want to cut Ian off, but I'm also here in the corner.
People make fun of me because I say I'm excited about our guests, but I am every single night.
Stoked to have Brian, it's going to be a good conversation.
unidentified
Thanks, Lydia.
tim pool
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BBC reports, Russia threatens to stop supplying gas if not paid in rubles.
I don't like these headlines.
I scoured Google, for a headline that was actually getting into nitty-gritty, but it's more than that.
Vladimir Putin has signed a decree stating buyers must open Ruble accounts in Russian banks.
That is very different.
Nobody sells anything for free, and we're not going to do charity either.
Putin's demand is being seen as an attempt to boost the Ruble, which has been hit by Western sanctions.
While it's working, the Ruble is recovering, but this is more about Russia's banks.
They say his decree means foreign buyers of Russian gas would have to open an account at Russia's Gazprom Bank and transfer euros or US dollars into it.
Gazprom Bank would then convert this into rubles, which will then be used to make the payment for gas.
He's not saying You have to buy the oil and gas.
He's saying you have to open an account and put your money into it.
He's propping up the Russian financial system because of Western sanctions.
He's now got the Mir payment system, Visa and MasterCard and Amex and all these companies suspending.
He didn't care.
All Joe Biden has done with his sanctions is bolster Russia and make them fiercely independent, strong, and weaken the U.S.' 's position around the world.
ian crossland
And you're up.
seamus coughlin
thanks joe but i can't believe that something joe biden intended to do have
the reverse effect that's unbelievable to me you know that this is what they say about smooth talkers
you know can't trust them it's it's not that silver tongue but the follow-up
purchase isn't there
tim pool
yeah but it's not it's It's also that he tries to walk back or claim things never happened.
seamus coughlin
They never happened, man.
unidentified
How does that happen?
seamus coughlin
None of that happened.
tim pool
Well, with the sanctions, I think he was asked by Doocy.
He was like the only journalist asking questions.
He was asked, you know, these sanctions were supposed to deter Putin and they're not.
And then it was one of the spokespeople for the administration.
They're like, no, no, no, we never said that.
Oh no, I think Biden said it.
seamus coughlin
Biden himself, yeah.
But he actually doesn't remember.
Bro, go easy on him.
unidentified
He's like, I didn't say that.
seamus coughlin
Leave the man alone.
ian crossland
That was a very telling video.
Doocy brought up three things he said.
tim pool
No, that was a different one.
Oh, okay.
I'm saying, he was asked specifically, you said sanctions were going to deter Putin.
He's like, what?
No, I didn't.
And then there's quotes from the Biden admin where they were like, the sanctions will deter Putin.
And they didn't.
You know what it is?
It's like Blinken and Kamala and Biden are like the Three Stooges.
And they're slipping around on banana peels and Putin's just going off and doing whatever he wants, man.
ian crossland
You say something once on the internet video, it's there forever, essentially.
I mean, not forever, but I don't think he understands that because he's from an old generation before the internet.
tim pool
Right, right.
Like, remember when Hillary Clinton put on a Southern accent when she was in, like, Alabama or whatever?
seamus coughlin
Hot sauce.
Oh, the hot sauce one, too, when she was on Breakfast Club, right?
She goes, what do you always keep in your bag?
Hot sauce.
I have hot sauce in here.
I carry it everywhere.
tim pool
But she put on a fake Southern accent because she didn't realize that people record everything these days.
She's old, right?
Back in the day, you could show up anywhere and speak however you wanted.
AOC even did it.
You know, remember she put on like an urban Latina accent or dialect or whatever?
And then she was like, that's just how I talk.
It's like, we hear you on PBS.
We hear you on CNN.
Like, you don't talk that way.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
It's so, it's creepy.
But you know what?
You get it.
You're a sales guy, right?
unidentified
Oh yeah, well, she's trying to reflect the people she's talking to.
But at the same point in time, there comes a fine line between being your authentic self and being condescending.
And I mean, we talk about Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, AOC, Nancy Pelosi.
If there's one thing that they all represent, it's condescension.
seamus coughlin
You know what it is?
It's like, um...
it's like the the upper middle class lady who orders something at a mexican restaurant in broken english because she like assumes that the way please don't dad sentences please don't yeah you're like please stop doing this like they're not even trying to speak spanish they're just speaking english poorly intentionally it's like what are you doing yo senor yo necesito more guac yeah but that's broken spanish they will literally do broken there's like i want Food for plate!
You're like, bro, you can just talk normally, like, they'll understand you.
tim pool
Remember that Yale study that said white liberals talk down, they dumb down the way they speak to black people, and conservatives don't.
seamus coughlin
That's the crazy, yo, like... Here's the thing, I don't dumb down my speech to anyone because, like, it can't get any dumber.
unidentified
It can't get dumber, it's true.
seamus coughlin
For me, personally.
But these liberals are just so smart, they have to condescend down to the rest of us.
tim pool
The CDC is calling me right now, should I answer it?
ian crossland
Yeah, it's probably definitely a legitimate call.
seamus coughlin
I'm joking, by the way.
I would say it's probably the CDC.
tim pool
It says CDC National Immune.
seamus coughlin
It's your show, I'm just saying.
ian crossland
I'm all along for the ride.
tim pool
Hold on, I'm gonna try to answer this.
Hello, I am live broadcasting right now.
Is this the CDC?
We're live streaming on the internet.
It is.
It's actually the CDC.
We're doing a live talk show right now.
Just so you know, like, you know, everyone's be able to hear what you say.
say are you okay with that? Yeah okay all right.
That would probably be better.
Otherwise, we've got, you know, a lot of people who are watching.
unidentified
All right.
Thanks, man.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, call back later.
unidentified
What is the CDC doing a survey for?
tim pool
You heard that?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Did you like our services the last couple years?
unidentified
What do you think?
seamus coughlin
What did you think of the advice that we were giving to the public?
unidentified
Scale of 1 to 10.
How much do you trust the CDC today?
seamus coughlin
How satisfied are you?
unidentified
Your tax dollar's been going to the right spot lately.
lydia smith
Yeah, maybe not.
tim pool
They've actually been calling me a lot.
seamus coughlin
We gotta know what he thinks.
And then if you answer no, you take the survey and you answer that you're not satisfied, they're like, this guy's sick, we gotta quarantine this one, round him up.
unidentified
They come out in the hazmat suits, like they do in China, you jump out the window, they grab you, bring you back in.
tim pool
They called me at 3.51.
I really wanna know.
They called me, let's see, 3.51 today, 3.20 today.
Did they call me yesterday?
seamus coughlin
They were trying to reach you about your vaccine's extended warranty, Ro.
That's really weird.
ian crossland
I don't think they called me at all.
unidentified
Did you guys get that here, by the way?
Like, people going around door-to-door asking if you got your vax?
seamus coughlin
No.
unidentified
That was a thing in Philly, and it was weird.
This guy, like, he comes up to my house, and my wife and I just moved out of Philadelphia, and he knocks on the door, and he's like, Hi, sir.
I'm from the city of Philadelphia, and I'm just going around to check out what people are doing during COVID, see if, you know, obviously you had the opportunity to get your vaccine.
I'm like, I don't really wanna answer that question.
He goes, well, did you get your vaccine?
I'm like, okay.
tim pool
Well, that's what they're calling for.
unidentified
100%.
tim pool
So I got a text message from them.
What the heck?
It was a voicemail.
It was a voicemail.
And what did they say?
seamus coughlin
I thought it was a scam to be honest.
unidentified
Oh, here we go.
That's what I thought too.
seamus coughlin
Somebody messing around.
tim pool
Yeah, they said, I'm calling on behalf of the CDC, conducting a national immunization survey about vaccinations for COVID and other diseases.
Please call us back or whatever.
And they called me.
Well, CDC, if you call me, I just wanna let you know, It will be live.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
And so that's your decision.
ian crossland
What up, CDC?
lydia smith
I have so many questions.
tim pool
Anyway, we were talking about, you know, what's going on in Europe, and then the CDC called me during the show.
I get phone calls periodically during the show.
I don't answer them.
unidentified
But it was CDC calls.
tim pool
I thought it was really interesting.
seamus coughlin
Tim's like, is there a new disease?
Did a new variant drop?
unidentified
What if it was vouching?
Omicron B6.
seamus coughlin
What if it was like, I heard you were doing my voice in these cartoons.
I am sending you a cease and desist.
I should be the one making those royalties off of my own likeness.
tim pool
But yeah, I didn't actually think anybody be able to hear it, but that was awesome, you know, I asked them if they were okay with it Respectable I guess such as what I didn't know what they were calling for.
So I thought it'd be interesting You know, we do a show we talking about this stuff.
Um, but where were we?
ian crossland
We're rubles and I think the part of the reason why it's backfired but Part of the reason why the ruble bounded back, not only did they set up on gold, but its value is calculated in relative to the dollar.
So if the dollar drops in value, the ruble is going to go up relatively in value.
So as the dollar continues to plummet, as it's continued to be printed, you're going to see all of these other currencies going up.
tim pool
That's actually a really good point.
Everybody's looking at the ruble going back up and they're assuming it's all of these things Putin is doing.
It could just be all the things Biden is doing destroying the dollar.
unidentified
Literally.
seamus coughlin
That's true.
unidentified
Biden, the Fed, yeah, across the board.
ian crossland
It's been a blast.
Is there an independent way to measure the value of your currency up against something?
tim pool
Well, when MasterCard, Visa, and all these companies pull out of Russia and... That's another part of it.
ian crossland
They put them in a corner.
They say, we're going to buy your oil with Euros, but we can shut off your Euro accounts at any moment.
Why would he take that deal?
I don't think he's doing anything out of the ordinary.
I'm not saying I love it, I'm just saying it's not out of the ordinary.
unidentified
When you look at what the Biden administration has done from a foreign policy standpoint, we were talking about this beforehand, it has been one unforced mitigated disaster after another.
And I think it's just a matter of, and it's sad to say, but I think Putin looks at it as he has to maintain himself long enough to outlast Biden and these failed policies.
And we're seeing this right now, your average person's like, this is not worth it.
tim pool
I mean, maybe, but I also think, as soon as Joe Biden got elected, you know how they would do the show The West Wing, where it's like that camera in front of them as they walk, and then it turns the corners?
Imagine that with Putin, and then his guys like, Sir, Joe Biden is president.
unidentified
You have four years.
And then he's like, let's move.
tim pool
And then they start like nailing out all their plans.
Like we're on the clock, people.
We got four years to get this done.
Cause as soon as Biden's out, you're going to get a Donald Trump or Ronda Sanchez or something.
So Putin knows the iron is hot.
Now's his chance.
seamus coughlin
It's like the purge for all of our potential foreign adversaries.
We have like a small window where we can do whatever we want.
tim pool
Once every hundred years, the U.S.
elects a Buchanan or a Biden.
ian crossland
You think Biden's going to run again?
I hear that he is.
unidentified
I don't know where this came from, Pacific maybe?
ian crossland
I walk again, that's what I'm going to walk again.
seamus coughlin
He's going to have his walker.
ian crossland
Oh, he'll literally run again.
No, he's not going to do that again.
unidentified
Jill Biden holding his hand.
ian crossland
How about stem cells or something?
Maybe PRP or platelet-rich plasma.
tim pool
All right, all right.
If Joe Biden were to run for president for a second term, it would not be possible.
It can't work.
The first time around, Joe Biden was calling a lid every week.
He was sleeping in his basement or something to that effect.
unidentified
And he could get away with it with COVID.
That was the reason he didn't have to go out.
seamus coughlin
I think you guys are underestimating how appealing he is to the American people.
He's a sly devil.
The way he sounds, the way he speaks.
ian crossland
I don't know the way he smells.
I've never been close to him, close enough to touch his hand.
unidentified
I had he smells like mung beans or something.
tim pool
You know, you know, you don't want to be because Ian, I got to be honest.
If, if you were at an event and Joe Biden saw you from behind with your long.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
I don't need to finish that statement.
I'm okay with where you were headed.
tim pool
No, exactly where I'm going.
ian crossland
What's the next.
Oh, what are we?
unidentified
No, no, this is it.
seamus coughlin
Ian would be like, think about graphene, think about graphene, think about graphene.
I might have to change my Twitter profile.
ian crossland
I've got Biden smelling me from behind on my Twitter profile page.
unidentified
He's like, it's corn pop, he's back.
tim pool
Think about how funny it would be though, like Biden would go up behind Ian and then grab his shoulders and go.
You're not who I thought you were.
But then Ian would be like, yo, yo, I'm a guy.
unidentified
And Biden would be like, I know, I know.
Ian with your long leg hair.
tim pool
Yeah, he's rubbing your legs.
seamus coughlin
Ian would astral project out of his body.
ian crossland
That would be it.
tim pool
Okay, but in all seriousness, In 2020, there were a lot of excuses about why Biden should have run, why he could win.
I didn't buy them.
But a lot of people were just, they really hated Trump.
Well, now a lot of people really hate Joe Biden.
His approval rating is as low as it's ever been.
MSNBC is like, despite the booming economy, people don't like Joe Biden.
But imagine Joe Biden running again.
Against who?
That's why I'm like, honestly, don't give him Trump.
Give him DeSantis.
unidentified
Yes, give him DeSantis.
Because they hated Trump because he was Trump.
People dislike or hate Biden because of what his policies have been doing to them directly.
And that right there is the difference.
Whereas if you had Ron DeSantis run, you get rid of everything about Trump that people
hate.
And now instead you can focus on the policies that people loved in Florida and people fled
to en masse in Florida because they were trying to get away, like I did from Philadelphia,
of the crazy leftist policies.
tim pool
Oh, you're in Florida now?
unidentified
No, I'm over in Indiana.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
So, you know what?
I think about it, though.
Trump should run because we're at the point now where I'm pretty sure enough people are going to look at Biden and Trump and go, I'm not making that same mistake twice.
And then not only do you get Trump back in office to be the raging bull storming through the ivory tower, but you could say, I told you so to all of those people who turn around and said, yeah, okay, we made a mistake with that one.
unidentified
See, I look at DeSantis though, because whether, like the whole don't say gay bill, which isn't actually a bill that says you can't say don't say gay, right?
He was smart in the way he put that bill into place because he is making the left now respond in kind to him and say, We want to teach our kids this in school.
And your average parent is like, you're teaching what to my K through third grader?
No, I don't think so.
Whereas Trump would just go out and be like, what's the headline for the day?
What can I go after and smash with a hammer?
And now, and now we have a chance to put- Sounded like JFK.
A little bit, yeah.
Now we have a chance to put Ron DeSantis in front where he could have the chance to lead on policy and get the progressive left to answer that.
tim pool
I'd rather have DeSantis to be completely honest because of the latest news that he's calling a special legislative session.
unidentified
For the redistricting?
tim pool
No, for constitutional carry.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
Jeez.
Wow.
tim pool
So Ron DeSantis was like, yeah, we're gonna do a special session, come in, vote on everyone being able to carry guns without permits and you can just buy and conceal and everything.
And it's just like, you didn't have to do that.
I already liked you.
But I like this a lot, so bring that to the federal government.
I'd love to see him be like, as president, you know, one of my agenda items for this
is repealing the NFA.
Imagine if he came out and he just issued an executive order, a moratorium on ATF action
against NFA items.
I don't know if you'd go that far.
But you know, let's tell him to do it.
Yeah, so let's give him a shot.
seamus coughlin
Ron, if you're listening, I mean, the CDC called you.
Anything's possible.
He's going to give us a buzz.
tim pool
Somebody said I should have answered the phone as Dr. Fauci.
ian crossland
Do you know who this is, Tony?
unidentified
I'll be there.
Do you know who this is, Tony?
Are you wearing your masks?
ian crossland
My concern with the Santas is that the media has started their smear campaign against them
now with this don't say gay crap.
But it's not that they haven't done it with Trump, so it's not any worse.
unidentified
But they tried to do it with him during COVID too, and it failed.
They really tried to make DeSantis look like he had foreheads, he was going to kill grandma, and that the state was going to burn into flames, and yet That's a good point.
tim pool
You even had AOC partying maskless in Florida.
seamus coughlin
Right.
tim pool
Everybody can see that the progressives and the Democrats are being led by hypocrites and liars.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I mean, you're going to have people, and look, the media can propagandize the public all they want.
People are decently intelligent.
They're going to notice that the folks living in the states that everyone is leaving are telling you not to vote for the guy who ran the state everyone has been trying to move to.
Yeah, especially at the Oscars.
I guess to Ian's point, but bouncing off what Brian said a moment ago, you're correct that
the media started a smear campaign against them with the parental rights and education
bill, but all they did was make themselves look really bad.
ian crossland
Especially at the Oscars.
That was really obnoxious.
tim pool
Well, they, they, brilliant play from the Republicans on this one.
The Parental Rights and Education Bill says no secret conversations, no withholding medical information, and no specific sex ed kind of talk for kindergarten to third grade.
The initial bill on the website said pre-K, but the bill itself says kindergarten, so there's a bit of a confusion there.
We were saying pre-K for a while.
I checked the actual language of the bill.
It says kindergarten, so that's a correction, but also the Florida.gov website does say pre-K, so I don't know where that split is coming from.
But, imagine now, you look at the tweets, like David Hogg tweeted this, where he was like, here's a quote from the bill, sounds like don't say gay to me.
And I'm just like, but that quote you posted also prohibits straight discussions as well.
And I'm just like, I don't understand why these people are so hell-bent on having sex conversations with children.
ian crossland
Yeah, don't say sex would be a better name for it.
seamus coughlin
It's such a weird thing to look for in a bill too.
You hear there's a parental rights bill, they're like, But is this going to make it more difficult to have conversations with children in secret about gay sex?
That's the point!
We need to make sure, we need to make sure that that's not the case.
Otherwise it's just a massive violation of our rights.
tim pool
But the crazy part is, it's not about gay.
It's about literally anything.
You can't go in Florida to a classroom and be like, mommies and daddies love each other and get married.
Nope, you can't do that.
This bill prevents that.
And the people who supported it, most people support it because they're like, yeah, that makes sense.
That's big to me though.
When you see the polling showing that it's like, what is it, 60-some-odd percent supported the parental rights and education bill?
seamus coughlin
With the horrendous framing that we examined.
tim pool
It means people are starting to break through the lies, which is kind of why I'd love to see a Trump-Biden rematch.
DeSantis, I think, is better in a lot of ways, to be completely honest.
unidentified
Way better.
tim pool
But he is.
I mean, he's younger.
I think he's more in tune.
This constitutional carry thing, that's just so fantastic.
But what he's doing with Florida is just wonderful.
And people are chatting being like, don't take him away from us in Florida.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, but that's actually really interesting.
No, that's a really interesting conversation.
tim pool
Trump can be governor of Florida.
seamus coughlin
First of all, I'm a judge, now the greatest state.
How much better, and granted, I am not downplaying the necessity of having the right person in the Oval Office, but I do think there is something to be said for this idea that DeSantis is really extremely powerful in Florida, and imagine how much better this country would be if other political leaders just followed suit and behaved like him in their states if
republican governors in other parts of the country actually had some guts in
developed a spine and stood up for their people the way ron de santis has the country'd
be so i mean i think that would do more good for the country than even the
de santis presidency was that balls
ian crossland
Yeah.
Is New York ending the VAX mandates now?
tim pool
I heard they did.
ian crossland
I didn't see it.
I give it to DeSantis.
It's because of people like him, particularly him, that the country has been able to dodge a proverbial bullet of having to jab ourselves when now we're acknowledging that you don't really need it.
unidentified
Yep, and I don't mean to interrupt, but this goes back to, and I've been pushing this a lot in my program, instead of responding to narratives, setting the narratives.
And that's where DeSantis has been killing it.
He is not responding to, okay, leftists make an argument and they're full force, and now conservatives, libertarians, anybody right of center is now playing defense.
Instead, DeSantis is playing offense.
We're seeing Republicans play offense, libertarians playing offense, And now you're seeing the left scramble because they're not used to having to actually explain, wait, why do you want to teach kids sex when they're in kindergarten?
And have secret conversations with children.
seamus coughlin
conversations and have secret conversations with children.
unidentified
Right.
Now, now, and I have a funnable expression like you use, when you're explaining, you're losing.
The left is explaining now.
And now that they're in this trap of having to unwind this massive web that they have made of just insanity, your average person, and I keep on going back to the average person because I think this is who we should be talking to, they're looking at what's happening and they're like, this is insane.
I don't want to teach my kids sex when they're in kindergarten.
And even if that's a conversation to have, let me have it.
Let me determine when that's going to be.
tim pool
So all the more reason why we all like Ron DeSantis and what's happening in Florida, why so many people are moving there.
But just in terms of, you know, going back to the original subject, was Joe Biden running?
We need to consider that if Joe Biden can't run for president, that means the Democrats need to announce in a month or two.
that because they're gonna have to start setting up their primary candidates.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yep.
tim pool
So 2023 is primary season and if it's not gonna be Biden, could you imagine Biden trying to campaign?
He's gonna be 80.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
So what you're, what you're saying is I need to release all of the Biden
cartoons who've been working on within like the next month or so before he's
unidentified
gone.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're going to have like a, this really great 12, you know, minute.
I've been working on a nation on Biden.
seamus coughlin
No, I have a 12-part miniseries on him.
Hour-long episodes.
Come on, man.
tim pool
I mean, you're Biden singing the greatest hits.
He's a lot of fun.
If not Biden.
seamus coughlin
It is sad and funny, you know what I mean?
unidentified
It's sad.
seamus coughlin
It's dangerous, too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a lot of fun.
He's a lot of fun.
ian crossland
If not Biden.
tim pool
It is sad and funny, you know what I mean?
ian crossland
It's sad. It's dangerous too.
seamus coughlin
Although that word's kind of vague.
I try not to be too cruel, because on some level, you feel bad for the guy.
His brain just doesn't work.
But at the same time, it is really hysterical that everyone is avoiding saying that he clearly has dementia.
First they were saying he had a stutter, now they're saying it's because he's Irish that he says these ridiculous things.
tim pool
He called for regime change in Russia because he's Irish, and so he understands empathy, and I'm like, is that like a genetic Irish thing?
seamus coughlin
Let's send the IRA in!
unidentified
I got a brand new shiny helmet and a pair of kinky boots!
ian crossland
I don't have the same kind of sympathy for this guy because if you know if you get behind the wheel of a car for instance and you're blind and you end up killing someone I have no sympathy for you.
seamus coughlin
I agree with you on that but I almost think he's to the point where someone else had to put him there I just don't know that he's competent enough to make the decision to place himself in that position.
unidentified
It's like you have somebody in the backseat of the car they're like Joe Biden in the front seat they're like all right there's a turn up here to the left Turn!
Turn now!
Turn now!
And he's like, what?
Where?
Tree?
And he just goes off into the ravine.
seamus coughlin
Whose turn is it?
Ian, I would agree with you.
I think my point is more or less, and really what I'm trying to get at is, if this was anyone else, if I were to see any other person experiencing that kind of cognitive decline, it would just make me sad.
I wouldn't really find much to poke fun at, but Because this man is literally the leader of the country, and everyone's trying to pretend that he's not only fit, but that he's, like, the best.
They can't just claim that he's fit.
He's, like, the best president ever.
It's a booming economy, according to MSNBC.
Why don't people like him?
And the man can't finish a single sentence without saying something ridiculous or stammering or slurring.
tim pool
Everyone should imagine the Emperor, you know, the Emperor's New Clothes story.
And it's the Emperor who ends up walking down the street naked with everyone pretending like he's not.
But now, take that story again and replace the emperor with Biden.
And not only is the emperor wearing no clothes, but he's demented.
And he's like fumbling about, confused, and someone's holding his hand as he goes... You remove people like that from power immediately.
seamus coughlin
That is a danger to our society.
tim pool
So they're all like, nuclear war is coming, Russia and everything, right?
And you know, Russia is going to shut off gas and they're flying planes with nukes on them.
Could you imagine if...
Vladimir Putin is in his nuclear bunker and he's like, fire missile on Kiev.
And then NATO generals calls and they're like, Mr. President, Russia has fired an ICBM towards Ukraine.
Should we retaliate?
unidentified
Yeah, man, you know, hit Libya, take them out.
tim pool
And they're like, Libya, sir.
You know, come on, man.
And like, all right, I guess we're nuking Libya.
ian crossland
You know what Biden's first reaction would be if he heard that news?
tim pool
He'd be like, It would be disappointment because he's a lame loser.
When Joe Biden was talking about Syria back at like the G7 or whatever, he kept calling it Libya.
And I'm like, yo, people downplay this.
When Peter Doocy was asking questions to Biden, he said, It seemed like you said this, and it seemed like you said this, and Biden's like, never happened!
It's like, Biden, you're only lying to yourself because everyone in the world heard you say it.
Imagine if he's in private with a general.
Where should we retaliate?
Uh, Libya, man!
It's like, Libya, are you sure?
Are you sure?
You heard me!
It's like, okay, the president said nuke Libya, and then you're like, no, no, Moscow, Joe!
Is a journalist gonna pop up and go, Joe Biden actually meant to say Moscow?
Oh, the generals then say, oh, okay, okay, we'll change the trajectory.
seamus coughlin
I can't allow you to spread this paranoid misinformation.
Joe Biden's geriatric nurse would be there to let the general know he's having a senior moment and that he actually means something else.
You think they're sending the man around without a translator?
You're out of your mind.
tim pool
Yo, I know some old... Trump is old.
He has spry.
Yeah, it's true.
The thing about Trump is he wouldn't accidentally tell you to nuke the wrong place.
He'd tell you to hit Moscow kind of early.
He'd be like, I know how to deal with it.
If he's going to nuke it, hit him first.
He went into Ukraine.
seamus coughlin
Turn up before he invaded, be like, just in case.
tim pool
Just in case.
No, I don't think Trump would have actually nuked Moscow.
seamus coughlin
I'm kidding.
tim pool
But there's that uncertainty.
Like even Trump was saying 5%, 10%.
You don't, you This guy's kind of crazy.
seamus coughlin
He's like, if I bought it, I 10% might have done it.
Like, I might have.
I was thinking about it.
I was.
unidentified
I really was.
I wouldn't be surprised if he was.
tim pool
Or he just knows how to do the big ask.
And he goes to Xi and he goes to Putin and says, do it and I'll nuke you.
And Joe Biden can only just say, come on, man.
seamus coughlin
Come on, or no, you don't got a soul.
He claims he looked Putin in the eye and he told that bully, you don't have a soul.
As if Vladimir Putin is just this really introspective guy who was like, well, if Joe Biden doesn't think I have soul, perhaps I'm doing something wrong.
tim pool
This is a good cartoon you could make, though, where like in Biden's mind, he's like ripped and he like walks up to Putin and he's like, listen here, chum, you ain't got no soul, no malarkey.
And Putin's like, oh, please, Mr. Biden, please.
And then like in reality, he's like, Hey, you soul man!
unidentified
And then Putin's like, he called me a soul man?
seamus coughlin
I'm a soul man.
That's the thing.
Putin, but that's like, so what he told him is mean?
You told the foreign leader he's mean?
unidentified
Thank you, Joe.
tim pool
This is why they claim we push Russian propaganda because we're sitting here making fun of our
president acting like Putin is not, you know.
seamus coughlin
But then he shouldn't act like an idiot.
Maybe if our president didn't have dementia, we would be making fun of Putin instead!
unidentified
And we made fun of Trump, too!
And we made fun of Trump!
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
I mean, frankly, I was thinking, I thought, maybe today I will hit the button, I don't know, we'll think about it.
seamus coughlin
It's just a thought, I didn't say I would do it.
Yeah.
But you mentioned something earlier, because you were saying that Biden will simply say,
I didn't say that, man.
Even though everyone knows he didn't, it's on camera.
You made a point earlier about how that could just be an issue with members of his generation.
They don't expect everything to be filmed.
They don't.
I mean, I find with most public personalities under the age of 40, when someone calls them
out for something they said, they're usually embarrassed about it or they start to offer
an explanation.
They won't say, I never said that.
ian crossland
If I truly didn't know that I said, if someone said, you said something and I'm like, no, I don't think so.
And they're like, yes, you did.
I'd be like, okay, show me the footage so I can verify that you're right here.
And I would eat it.
You have to, what are you going to do?
I'm not going to lie to people.
tim pool
Yeah, but it's, it's, it's not, it's.
Just that Joe Biden, you'd show Joe Biden the video and he'd be like, what am I looking at?
And he'd be trying to like look at it and everything.
And then he'd be like, Joe, this is you saying you would use chemical weapons.
And he goes, what?
No, I never said that.
unidentified
That's not me.
He's going to go, no man, that's a deep pancake, man.
seamus coughlin
That's one of them, they put your face on it.
tim pool
A deep cake.
unidentified
Deep cake.
Deep cake, man.
I didn't say that.
ian crossland
I'm going to, I'm still going to make fun of Joe Biden after he's president too.
seamus coughlin
That's for sure.
ian crossland
Well, no, I mean, maybe it'll be less relevant.
seamus coughlin
The left ripped on Reagan for decades after he left office, and I remember this joke.
They said it over and over again.
Oh, how hilarious, how stupid, that the Republicans had a president who was experiencing cognitive decline.
It's like, well, you guys chose... Yeah, exactly.
It's like, well, you guys... That was George W. Bush's presidency.
You guys chose Joe Biden knowing he was demented.
He wasn't president.
Like, there was an out, and you still picked him.
tim pool
Oh, that was weird.
You guys see the story that the army is reducing its enlistment expectations?
ian crossland
Yes.
seamus coughlin
I guess the commercial about having two moms didn't work.
tim pool
Well, actually, let me see if I can find it.
But anyway, my point is kind of wrapping up the Joe Biden thing.
I forgot where I was going with it because now I want to talk about the...
ian crossland
Oh, I heard that it's because of the botched Afghanistan surrender.
Let's call it a surrender.
Cause that's what it was.
We surrendered all $800 billion worth of equipment to the enemy.
And hastily left a bunch of people there.
That that's the reason people are not signing up for the military now.
Cause they don't trust it.
unidentified
Well, and that's, did you notice that's when things really changed?
Like the tenor on Biden, just like 180.
I don't know what, if it was the Afghanistan withdrawal or the fact that we left like was $80 billion worth of supplies.
tim pool
Let me pull the story.
We got the story here from Breitbart.
Army reducing its numbers in face of recruiting difficulties.
They say the Army this week admitted it was having problems recruiting and announced an
unprecedented reduction in its number size that would shrink the active duty
Army to its smallest size since World War II.
Wow, that's great timing. Apparently you've got retired Army Lieutenant General Thomas Spower
saying the Army has not faced such recruiting headwinds in the last 30 years.
I am unaware of a situation where the army has cut its end strength in response to a negative recruiting outlook.
Vladimir Putin just drafted 134,500 people, and the US is drawing down its numbers being like, nobody wants to enlist!
So, uh, thanks Joe Biden, I guess?
seamus coughlin
Well, not just Joe Biden.
I mean, we can definitely attribute it to him, even though it started way before he was president, because what was it, all the way back in 1997, he was saying he wanted to go to war with Iraq.
He's the swamp creature like the rest of them.
He pushed for all this nonsense.
And this is what happens when you go to war frivolously.
It's not only a horrifically and barbarically evil thing to do in and of itself, but of course, you undermine your credibility with the American people.
So now when we're at a point in history where global tensions really are heightened, We don't really have a military in order to fight whatever war might break out, and other nations know that.
tim pool
But we gotta be very serious and specific here.
How long ago was the Two Moms army campaign?
unidentified
Yeah, it was last year, wasn't it?
tim pool
And now, that clearly did not work.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
When you're recruiting three moms, we need a commercial with three moms.
ian crossland
More moms.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
More moms.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
Just a whole bunch of moms.
ian crossland
More is better.
tim pool
A bunch of moms.
ian crossland
Faster, funnier, louder.
tim pool
They didn't put enough moms.
seamus coughlin
I don't think there was enough moms in that situation.
ian crossland
She wasn't loving enough.
seamus coughlin
It was only two.
tim pool
You just keep saying it in circles.
More moms.
seamus coughlin
First of all, we need more of them.
I had the most mothers.
tim pool
But in all seriousness, the army legitimately ran a campaign That was all about diversity, inclusivity, and equity.
Die cult stuff.
And they did that very famous two moms thing.
Clearly didn't work.
seamus coughlin
And it was animated like a Disney cartoon, which was so strange.
First of all, who listens to a cartoon, right?
But also, I mean, if you're trying to recruit people for the military, why are you making this like What's the role of the military not to go see Disney songs to shoot somebody?
I was surprised that the birds, the seagulls didn't just fly into the ship and start cooking with them.
tim pool
I think it's fair to say, legitimate assessment, the Emma and her two moms has backfired on the army.
It's an unprecedented moment where they're drawing down their end strength because they can't recruit people to the lowest level since World War II when they drafted people Didn't they also kick people out of the military for not getting vaccinated?
unidentified
They did!
ian crossland
And now they're removing the vaccine mandates in New York?
seamus coughlin
Let's think about this, like with the two moms, first of all, if anyone's gonna dissuade you from joining the army, it's gonna be either your parents, it's gonna be your mother.
Like, odds are she'll be like, I don't want my baby going over there and fighting.
So catering to people with two moms, dude, at least one of those moms is gonna go, uh-uh.
ian crossland
You're not going.
In my family, my dad actually was like, if you have any creative bone in your body, do not join the military because they will break it out of you.
You will lose it forever.
Because he got basically forced to go to Vietnam.
He was either going to get drafted to the jungle, so he signed up for the Navy and went and traveled the world.
And the Navy just, you know, browbeaten, told you you're scum, clean the deck, pissant, all this.
And so it was my dad that told me that.
But he had actual experience, really bad, didn't want to be there.
He didn't think the war was valid.
It wasn't even a war.
The military action was valid.
Although I had a fairly typical childhood.
tim pool
Took ballet.
unidentified
Played violin.
tim pool
I want to show this clip real quick, just a little bit, not the whole thing.
So there she is, there, you know, her two moms, and she said she was raised by two moms.
And I take no issue with that.
Absolutely, that's not what this is about.
unidentified
Although I had a fairly typical childhood.
Took ballet.
Played violin.
I also marched for equality.
I like to think I've been defending freedom from an early age.
tim pool
Just like Homil- Here's the point I want to make.
unidentified
What?
seamus coughlin
Freedom!
unidentified
What's a military thing?
ian crossland
What? Is this military?
tim pool
Is this military, Ian?
seamus coughlin
Dude- And you thought they would break your creativity, Ian.
You should've joined.
ian crossland
Oh, I should've joined the creative arm of the military.
Maybe they could've wrote movies for the military.
seamus coughlin
They would've said, hey, express yourself, Ian.
ian crossland
Okay, I'm sorry to interrupt.
This is so disturbing.
Who is their target market?
You want young men.
tim pool
That is my point.
My point is, you can get, no, no, I'm not concerned about targeting just young men.
If you want to get men and women in the army, I'm down for it.
There's jobs that men and women can do.
You want to talk about Tucker Carlson and the pregnant flight suit thing, that's a little different.
But the issue here is, the marketing campaign they made targets no one.
seamus coughlin
Yep.
Nobody.
Nobody.
Nobody who would, like, yeah, yeah.
No, no, no, no, no.
It's targeting no one.
tim pool
This kind of virtue signaling is extremely over the top.
The target market for this is woke, progressive, millennials, and Gen Z. But these people are not the people who would ever want to join the army.
unidentified
Ever.
Yeah.
tim pool
So it's like, it would be like going to a fitness class Expert level, you know, tai chi or martial arts and trying to sell deep fried Oreos and double scoop, you know, banana split sundaes.
These people are going to be like, or I'll give you a better example.
Going to the Olympics during training season and being like, here's a cart full of deep fried ice cream.
ian crossland
Well, they give them Gatorade, which has all sorts of food coloring in it, so they really don't care at that point.
What are you doing to your athletes at that point?
unidentified
You can't equate Gatorade It's similar to fried ice cream.
ian crossland
Why are you selling food coloring to your athletes?
It's a little different, though.
seamus coughlin
I hear you, Gator.
It's not great.
ian crossland
It's similar to the fried food thing.
seamus coughlin
I think deep fried Twinkies are probably worse.
ian crossland
Way worse.
tim pool
And so the point is that the Army made a commercial that probably insulted their target demographic.
Not because people who joined the Army are going to see this and be like, oh, I'm so offended at two moms, but more so they were like, Do you think this is who, like, this represents us in any way?
unidentified
Well, and this goes back to the point we made earlier, right?
So, when you look at who is the Democratic Party speaking to right now, in their head, now, I would say that they actually did have a target market for this.
It was exactly who they, this looks like it was for, your, to your point, millennial, Gen Z, you know, rich, progressive, elitist.
And that is who has become, in their mind, the Democratic approach for target market.
But that's not really who your average Democratic voter is.
I mean, if I'm out in Indiana, right, and I talk to a Democrat, they are much more likely to be a New York Republican than they are a AOC Democrat.
tim pool
But you said something that I think hits this as well.
Wealthy.
The people who believe these views, the progressive sect of this country, are well off You know, middle to upper middle class, upper class, suburbanite types.
seamus coughlin
Yep.
tim pool
They're the ones who push this.
Do you think that you are going to recruit this, like, 24-year-old progressive woman?
ian crossland
No.
tim pool
They're gonna be like, um, this ad is so dumb because America is totally racist.
The people who hate you are not gonna come work for you under contract.
unidentified
Exactly.
tim pool
You need the people who are like, America!
Yeah!
ian crossland
Yeah, you want to target it to kids that are bullied and stuff like that.
I mean, I'm not advocating for propaganda, but if the military wants to recruit people through propaganda, you want to target young men that feel dissolution and that they've been victimized.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no, you don't.
ian crossland
Yeah, I mean, that's what I would have done.
tim pool
So here's why drafting doesn't work.
You can't send people who have been drafted to go do very serious things on your behalf because they don't like you.
Finding people who are bullied Yeah, that's a terrible way to approach people.
ian crossland
I mean, let's be realistic.
tim pool
What you want is people who are looking for purpose and people who are driven.
You want to approach them and say, your mission awaits.
There are people who need you.
ian crossland
Or go get the bad guy, kind of.
I think that's part of it.
unidentified
No, that's what Putin's doing with his military.
That's why they've seen an uptick, is because he's got the ability to lead with a purpose versus the propaganda.
seamus coughlin
Well, yeah, because Putin's able to tell his people, if we don't win this war, McDonald's will not come back.
Like, well, we better go fight.
Whatever you say, boss.
tim pool
Yeah, like imagine I kind of feel like this is what the American marketing department thinks they're like Millennials like Disney Let's make an ad to recruit them like a Disney movie.
seamus coughlin
It's like no, you understand Millennials liking Disney means they're not gonna join right and It's the craziest thing.
tim pool
There are these videos... I don't know what the right word is for it.
But there's a... If you go to, like, the Cringetopia on Reddit, there are people who make these TikTok videos where they talk in these really weird ways where they, like, bounce around.
They're acting like Disney animation characters.
Like, when you're watching a new Pixar movie or whatever, they talk like this, and they're, like, flailing about for some reason.
And so you'll see that.
They think, is that what we want in the army?
I only got to say this.
seamus coughlin
You're going to give away their position.
No, no, no.
unidentified
That's not what I mean.
tim pool
I just mean like there are people who have become sort of media mutated in their minds, their perception of reality.
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
It's not an issue of what Russia is doing.
It's an issue of what the U.S.
is.
The kids who are growing up here have dejected and twisted views of reality and they behave in very strange and broken ways.
It's disparate, acultural nonsense.
And the reason why I think we're facing this recruiting problem is because no one believes in this country, as evidenced by our own politicians, by the corporations, by woke activism in general.
When you see someone like David Hogg come out, This guy is famous for gun control, tweeting about why parents should be allowed to have secret sexual conversations with five-year-olds.
I'm like, I kind of think you don't actually know what you're talking about or care, and you're just saying whatever you think the mob wants you to say.
seamus coughlin
Which is the most charitable response to someone who's advocating for that.
tim pool
Right, right, absolutely.
I mean, honestly, I think not him, but a lot of these people actually are just pedo, pedo-adjacent groomers or otherwise.
But my point is, I don't want to go off on it.
I don't want to derail that far.
My point is, The United States has no cohesive message.
We don't tell our children, this is our mission.
So when they grow up, they all are just, hey man, it doesn't matter what happens in this country, I'll extract from it whatever I can.
ian crossland
The message used to be freedom, American freedom.
And then George Bush invaded the Middle East and kept telling us because they hate our freedom, we got to keep killing people.
And it just bastardized and twisted the definition of the word freedom.
And now no one understands what freedom is anymore, or people are confused.
seamus coughlin
It's true, Ian, and it's funny because the left sort of saw that early on, and they would scoff at anyone who used the term freedom in a positive way because of that, and they would go, oh, you're talking about fighting for our freedom, and they thought it was the cringiest, dumbest thing ever, but now they'll go, we need to protect our democracy.
Yeah, democracy is the new freedom.
It's not a democracy.
unidentified
Yeah, but they don't even use democracy in the phrasing of the way we look at it.
Democracy, they use it as almost a replacement for freedom.
seamus coughlin
Democracy equals good.
I think with respect to recruitment, I mean, I have friends who are combat veterans, and I remember having conversations with them after Afghanistan fell, and I mentioned this before, but to us, that was a new story.
To them, They have friends who died there, they'd been shot at, they'd really gone through some horrific, significant trauma, and then they just saw it all undone on live television in front of them.
Imagine how horrible it is.
Why would someone want to enlist in this military at this point in time, given all of that?
There used to be a time in this country when the higher-ups in our government who would send young men to fight in wars respected them.
And then we got into a period where they more or less were indifferent to them.
And now we're at a point in time where the people who send these young men to fight in wars or expect them to fight in wars actively hate them and everything they stand for and everything they believe in.
And they're not idiots.
They know that.
Who's going to fight a war for Joe Biden?
Who's going to fight a war for Nancy Pelosi?
ian crossland
Not only do the young people not want to fight, my dad literally was involved in the Vietnam conflict and told me to my face, do not join the military.
tim pool
Yeah, but was he drafted or did he enlist?
ian crossland
He was able to avoid the draft because he enlisted ahead of time.
They were calling the numbers, he's like, I'm not going to the jungle, no way, I'm joining the Navy.
tim pool
So he enlisted in an effort to try and get a specific M.O.
or something.
ian crossland
Just to not get drafted into the jungle, like his cousin got shot down in a helicopter and died.
So it wasn't only that I saw how dumb it was and chose, it was my father actively told me not to do it.
So you not only do people not believe in it, their parents are telling them don't do it.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
So my dad was in high school.
I just think just to add to this, and this is so foreign to us, but he told me that like every single morning on the announcements, they would listen to the radio to know which students or teachers got drafted.
And one of his teachers who was young and had just started teaching there ended up getting drafted into the war.
And I'm pretty sure he died.
ian crossland
Dude, you gotta study, like, tunnel rats.
They would send these little guys down underground to crawl through these tunnels.
Like, sometimes they would cave in and they'd suffocate.
Sometimes there'd be a guy three feet in front of them in the dark with a gun pointed at their face.
Then they'd have to go set bombs under in these tunnels.
All the Vietnamese... This is like... This is the war you want to avoid.
This is like...
unidentified
And think back to, like, 20 years earlier, you had the World War II veterans, right?
And I remember back when I was in school, like, you'd go to the AMVETS, and you'd see that, you know, the group of the remaining World War II vets, and that was the people that they'd have come talk to the school up in northern New York, and, like, you'd see, like, them talk about defending American freedom, helping defend interests over abroad, and, like, fighting back the Nazis, and that was something you could get on board with, I think?
Like, your average person's like, yeah, like, Nazis.
Nazi equal bad.
Whereas you look to Vietnam, and it's like, we're gonna go to a jungle for 20 years and do what?
ian crossland
Get shelled.
Get shelled for 20 years.
tim pool
This civil war that's coming is going to be fascists versus pedos.
The left is going to scream, everybody, they're going to tell everyone the fascists must be stopped and everyone on the right is going to be like the pedos must be stopped.
Those are the, you know, have you guys seen Operation OK Groomer that's been going around?
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
No, it's not trending though.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because basically the meme is anybody supporting the protests, you know, they don't say gay protest stuff, they're groomers, so they say OK Groomer, and it's really triggering a lot of these people on the left.
But I bring this up not to derail the conversation in this direction, but to point out, there used to be an American message, the Red Scare, the Soviets, the expansion.
So everyone in America was kind of unified.
You could get people to enlist who believed in it, and you could draft people, as much as many people didn't want to be drafted.
Nowadays, the U.S.
is split, not just in two.
There's disparate factions all over the place.
I mean, progressives wouldn't fight for Democrats, but they'll take what they can get in terms of politics.
Like, if an actual fight broke out, anti-fund Democrats would not be getting along.
So when it comes to going to someone and saying, what's your purpose and what's your mission?
You know, people in the US are not going to say, I oppose Russia.
They're going to say the critical race theory, die cult left is destroying the planet.
That's internal.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
The left is going to say the fascists, they support Putin.
Internal.
seamus coughlin
That's true.
No, I mean, that's a very good point.
We talked about this before.
I think it was actually a conversation with Jack Posobiec, and it might have been a point Ian brought up, but basically how we live in a system where because power changes hands so often, you can't really achieve anything.
But historically, that wasn't really the case because even though the two parties had different ideas, they were similar enough that we could work towards a common goal, though we might have different approaches or have a slightly different vision, it was still possible to like continue along a specific path for Yeah, you're right.
Even with a change in leadership, but now it's like a complete regime change in some sense when a new person gets
elected at least With respect to the lip service they pay the public and
what they tell people we want to do So yeah, you're right if you ask most people what the most
serious threat is The right is gonna point to the left and the left is gonna
point to the right they'd agree Who cares about foreign adversaries at this point?
Though you might if you're paying attention.
tim pool
Well, there will be some conversation.
The right will say China, the left will say Russia.
But for the most part, I'd be willing to bet if you went to someone unprompted, like a political leftist, and you'd say, what is the existential threat this country faces today?
They're going to say the rise of fascism.
You ask someone on the right, they're gonna say the critical race theorist, the cult.
The right may also actually say China, to be honest.
ian crossland
Which is fascist.
That's where it starts to... It's something else.
seamus coughlin
It's commie, it's fashy, it's something different.
ian crossland
The CCP is the most fascist country on earth.
I mean, maybe the United States, but the CCP's pretty... All the businesses run through that government.
It's excessively fascist.
unidentified
Just like you do internet, you have to go through China Telecom.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't think the United States is fascist.
ian crossland
It's got elements of what the Federal Reserve.
tim pool
Yeah, but bro, fascism was something specific.
That's why I just, I grow tired of using these words, even the communism.
ian crossland
It's become so pervasive.
tim pool
Because those are 100 year old terms for specific things and ideologies that existed during the, you know, post-industrial revolution.
We're dealing with something unique and worse in a lot of ways.
Yeah.
It's the matrix.
There's got to be a different word for it.
seamus coughlin
So yeah, I still, I understand it doesn't apply perfectly in all instances.
I still tend to use the word communism just because the sort of, you know, egalitarian dialectical materialism undergirding communism is what undergirds this stuff.
But fascism is trickier because Most people who are called fascists don't identify as fascists, but there are still people on the world stage who will identify as communists.
So, like, the CCP call themselves communists.
I mean, who calls themselves fascists?
tim pool
It is socially acceptable among the left to throw up the Red Salute.
Yeah.
That's just insane to me.
It's mind-blowingly insane to me.
I view the Red Salute and the Roman Salute similarly.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, of course.
tim pool
I mean, truth be told, Soviets killed Uh, communists, I should say, not soviets, but killed way more people, but they're both psychotic ideologies that resulted in mass death.
unidentified
I mean, Che Guevara gets, like, canonized on the constant from leftists.
tim pool
He was a homophobe.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
He was super anti-gay and all that stuff.
seamus coughlin
And racist.
tim pool
Didn't he murder gay people?
unidentified
In Cuba?
seamus coughlin
He was a racist guy.
tim pool
Very, very racist guy.
unidentified
That seems problematic.
Isn't that the word you use?
seamus coughlin
Problematic?
We know that the left doesn't care at all about human life, but if we can convince them that the guy's racist, it might upset them.
unidentified
Worst person ever.
tim pool
Yeah, I mean, truth be told, if you were like, he killed people, they'd be like, everybody kills people in war.
unidentified
That happens.
tim pool
But he killed gay people.
seamus coughlin
And they're like, hold on.
ian crossland
Oh, five inconvenient truths about Che Guevara from Fox News.
How's this inconvenient?
He's a murderous dictator.
unidentified
I know!
I know!
seamus coughlin
I was just gonna say that, dude.
Even Fox News going, oh, how inconvenient that Che Guevara did.
It's not like he's George Washington and you're going, oh, that's unfortunate.
unidentified
Five sad truths about Washington.
ian crossland
In 1962, Guevara said he killed people without regard to guilt or innocence.
This guy's crazy.
Psycho.
But he was beautiful, so they loved him.
seamus coughlin
He's cute, but a psycho.
A little bit psycho.
ian crossland
People are entranced by the way things look.
unidentified
Have you seen the thing recently?
There's standing young Stalin.
Look up young Stalin.
seamus coughlin
So I'm pretty sure that picture of young Stalin, I've seen this, and I'm pretty sure it's not actually him.
I need to double check before I understand it.
It's debunked and it was Soviet propaganda to make him look like he looked better.
unidentified
That's been blowing up all over social media.
I saw it on Twitter.
Like, thousands of replays.
tim pool
Let's do Operation Photoshopped Fat Stalin.
And just make, like, a really unattractive... We gotta do that with Putin.
ian crossland
You wanna win the war.
unidentified
That's how you do it.
Make him look ugly.
Use the picture of Stalin where he was, like, waving at that water... body of water and they erased the guy.
Yeah.
Just take that picture and just make Stalin fat.
tim pool
No, no, no.
You need young Stalin to be a loser.
So that they stop posting this stuff.
ian crossland
Young Joseph Stalin.
He looks like, uh, was it Gavrilo Princip, the guy that started World War I that murdered that, uh, he looks like that guy.
unidentified
He reminded me of, um, the hell's the guy from, uh, the Young Turks.
tim pool
Cenk Uygur?
unidentified
No, no, no.
seamus coughlin
His nephew.
ian crossland
Is that Ember Pasha?
seamus coughlin
Oh, Hasan.
ian crossland
The fake Young Turks.
Not the real ones.
Not the murderous genocidal.
unidentified
Not the real killers.
ian crossland
I get confused because they're both called the Young Turks.
tim pool
The ones who were inspired by those who committed genocide, not the ones who actually did.
ian crossland
Yes, thank you for clarifying.
tim pool
The ones who initially denied the genocide, not the perpetrators of it, or the ones who have been repeatedly begged to change their name to stop using the name of a group that carried out a genocide and who have refused.
ian crossland
Yeah, the Armenian Genocide.
tim pool
Could you imagine if someone started a news organization called the Hitler Youth?
seamus coughlin
And also the head of that organization for a very long time actively denied the Holocaust.
But then later apologized, but still continued to call his organization the Hitler Youth.
I'd be like, are you really sorry?
tim pool
Let's do a semi-hard segue into the story about Maxine Waters because it's sad funny.
It's sad funny.
Rep Maxine Waters warns reporter over LA homeless story, you'll hurt yourself.
But the real bit here is that she told homeless people to go home.
So let me get there.
They say, Maxine Waters tried to stop the publication of a news story about the Los Angeles homeless crisis this week, reportedly telling a Los Angeles Times scribe, you'll hurt yourself and the community trying to put this together.
Investigative reporter Connor Sheets detailed a March 25th incident in South LA where hundreds of homeless people tried to obtain Section 8 housing vouchers after being misled by social media rumors.
The would-be applicants crashed an event held by nonprofit advocacy group Fathers and Mothers Who Care, which had been meant to help the unhoused obtain emergency shelter.
At one point, Waters told the crowd, I want everybody to go home, triggering an angry response.
We don't got no home.
That's why we're here, one member of the crowd yelled back.
According to the LA Times, what home we gonna go to?
lydia smith
Good for them.
tim pool
This is insane.
L.A.
is the nightmare dystopia we read about as kids.
That we were warned about.
The politicians yelling at homeless people to go home.
The homeless people just everywhere.
Skid Row expanding.
Drugs and feces all over the place.
California is a wasteland.
seamus coughlin
Tomorrow, Snopes is gonna be like, well technically, she didn't say which home they should go to.
unidentified
The underpass does count.
tim pool
Yeah, she meant their tent.
seamus coughlin
You know what I love?
She could have been referring to someone else's house.
tim pool
Here's what I love.
I love it when these leftists post photos from, like, the mountains of California, and they'll say things like, those conservatives, you know, smack-talking California.
This is what it's really like.
ian crossland
If you got money.
tim pool
Right, exactly.
It's like you go to the Palisades and you're looking at the PCH, the Pacific Coast Highway, and you're like, look how beautiful this place is.
Sure, just like in Elysium.
The French-speaking people in their space station, I'm sure they're looking around being like, what's wrong with our country?
Everything's beautiful here where rich people live.
seamus coughlin
It's like being a multi-millionaire receiving experimental treatment for your disease and being like, huh, people claim that our healthcare system isn't good.
Check this out.
tim pool
It's just, imagine, it's the Hunger Games, man.
The people in the capital are drinking Ipecac to vomit to keep eating.
And they're like, what's wrong?
Everything's great.
Life is good, huh?
It's like, yo, people are like living in their own waste and taking dumps in the street.
ian crossland
I guess a nice piece of news out of this is Michael Schellenberger, who's been on the show before, is running for governor, California governor.
And he's focused heavily on the homeless population and helping clean them up.
tim pool
Yeah, but you know, look, as much as I can appreciate it, if somebody wanted to become mayor of a garbage dump, I'm going to be like, bro, good luck, I guess.
ian crossland
Yeah, because Rogan, he was on Rogan a couple of days ago and he said, Rogan's like, just focus on LA first.
And he's like, LA is like, Too far gone to start.
I don't know if he said too far gone, but he's like, we'll start small and then if we can succeed, then we'll go to L.A.
tim pool
What if he went on Rogan and he was like, well, actually, my plan is to segment L.A.
and San Francisco and push them into the Pacific and then instantly the collective poverty and problems and everything that's wrong, the corruption, will drop dramatically in California.
It's like a blood transfusion.
Well, no, it's like, you know, it's like But with people instead of blocking off the malignancy.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
ian crossland
We can also build islands.
seamus coughlin
I also, it's so rich too because it's the people from California who have these really big, great, creative ideas about how we can fix the rest of the country even though nowhere is really quite as bad as California is right now.
I think it's too big.
And well, it's also funny because they're constantly complaining about Florida.
They're constantly complaining about what goes on in Florida while their state is falling apart.
It's like, well, I don't know.
DeSantis has not indicated any ambitions to try to change how things are done in California.
I'm pretty sure he's just going to let that dumpster fire burn.
tim pool
We joke about California kicking off L.A., but what if Ron DeSantis was like, we're going to separate Florida from the rest of this country, you know, only by a few hundred feet so that Florida is sovereign and protected and we don't got to worry.
unidentified
Just a moat around.
A wall.
seamus coughlin
Full of gators, dude.
ian crossland
Hungry alligators, electric eels, piranhas.
unidentified
And he can sell it as an alligator sanctuary project.
tim pool
Please don't feed the alligators.
Please don't feed the alligators.
ian crossland
And then you gotta have a wall with a moat with another wall with another moat with another wall.
So you go up the wall, you just fall into the moat.
tim pool
So this is what's funny because they actually claimed Trump proposed a moat with full of alligators, which he clearly didn't do.
seamus coughlin
It's just the funniest You know what's an even dumber border security idea?
Telling them all that they can get free healthcare if they come here.
Like having our politicians argue that we should be giving free services to everyone who crosses the border.
tim pool
Look at this story with Maxine Waters.
A bunch of homeless people were told you could show up, and then Maxine Waters just yells at them, tells them to go home.
ian crossland
I mean, she's so disconnected, I guess, from humanity.
tim pool
She yelled at him.
She said, excuse me, there's nobody in Washington who works for their people any effing harder than I do.
I don't want to hear this no, no, no.
seamus coughlin
Here's the thing.
tim pool
Maxine, Maxine.
When you're surrounded by homeless people and you yell at them to go home, and then when they get mad, you say, hey, hey, hey, nobody fights harder than me.
seamus coughlin
She's like, do you know how hard I have it?
tim pool
Yeah, right.
seamus coughlin
Do you know how difficult my life is?
ian crossland
I was just seeing, did you guys see the California is going to start paying everyone $400 rebate tax?
seamus coughlin
Well, it's about time.
ian crossland
They're thinking about it.
I mean, talk about it just as another throw money at them.
seamus coughlin
It's about time California spent some money.
ian crossland
I'm so concerned for that state.
I do think it's too big.
And like the Northern California is way different.
It's like redwoods and trees.
Well, maybe not.
I think there are other redwoods in NorCal.
I haven't been up that far in California, but it's like lush.
Down South, it's a desert.
They're two completely different environments.
tim pool
It might be worth it.
seamus coughlin
It's true.
ian crossland
Might be worth it.
tim pool
Stay to Jefferson or whatever.
unidentified
That's a proposal, yeah.
New York State, all these bigger states with the majority blue, they're looking to do that.
tim pool
Let's put all cities in bubbles and their jurisdiction extends within their city and nothing else.
unidentified
It's a city state.
tim pool
You know what's really funny?
ian crossland
Economic forum.
tim pool
Yeah, we should abolish states and go county only.
Yeah, so everything should be done by county, because then you'd see how quickly the progressive agenda evaporates.
They have highly dense populations of people who are stacked on top of each other in concrete jungles that smell like sour milk, and they all share this similar ideology.
And then you look at rural areas, and it's disparate ideologies, differing views in different areas, because people are more spread out.
ian crossland
Yeah, in the city you smell fumes, carbon monoxide and stuff.
You're constantly breathing it in, so no wonder they want a carbon tax and reduce emissions.
seamus coughlin
Well, Ian, I mean, breathing in those toxins, it leads to really good ideas.
It leads to you having really good ideas.
tim pool
This is the problem with, in my opinion, the majority of Democrats.
When I come out to the middle of nowhere and I see like a pig farmer, he's like, look, you know, I don't care what you do in the cities.
You know, whatever.
I raise pigs.
My pigs stink.
Don't come out here if you don't like the pigs stink.
And I'm like, I get it.
I won't.
The city people do two things.
They say, we live in a city.
People shouldn't be allowed to make things smell like pig.
So we're gonna ban pig farming in Utah.
And you're like, wait, wait, hold on.
That doesn't affect you in any way.
You don't live there.
And they're like, well, I don't want someone raising pigs near me.
It's like, bro, no one's raising pigs in New York.
Well, we're gonna ban raising pigs anyway for the whole nation.
It's what they're doing with guns.
It's like, yo, Ricky John and Uncle Billy up in the mountains of West Virginia need guns because there's predators, there's bears, there's banditos.
And you're like, I'm in New York.
I have police.
Ban guns for everyone.
They look at these problems and think the solution is nationwide for everybody because they assume everywhere in the country must be a dense urban population.
unidentified
And then in the process of creating their solution, they end up inevitably causing more problems down the road.
So they ban pigs, right?
And then like five years later, they're like, Why is pork and ham and bacon and everything so expensive?
tim pool
So then they pass the pork subsidy and start giving out checks to people to be able to buy pork, not understanding they caused the problem in the first place.
ian crossland
But they gotta ship all the pigs to China first so we can get our pork from China, so we don't have to smell it over here.
seamus coughlin
They're like, first of all, it is an ethical abuse to kill pigs.
We will only eat pigs killed on Chinese soil.
Then they send the pigs over there.
ian crossland
Now my soil is clean.
unidentified
To make this real, this is literally the conversation that is exactly happening with the gas.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
This is literally what's happening.
We have been told that we can't have an American oil supply because it's going to kill the environment.
In return, we need to release the million barrels from our strategic oil reserve.
And also we're going to keep on buying foreign oil from, we talked about Venezuela?
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
unidentified
A country that hates us and is a socialist dictatorship?
tim pool
Well, but empowering Venezuela is a good thing.
seamus coughlin
It's a good thing.
It's brilliant.
There was a really good Babylon Bee headline.
Biden plans to sell Alaska to Russia so we can drill for oil there.
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
lydia smith
That hurts.
tim pool
Well, this is the current state of America.
But I do have confidence, you know, that freedom is winning.
ian crossland
Human ingenuity is amazing, dude.
It's amazing.
But for hundreds of thousands of years, I mean, we only have recorded history for like 10,000, 8,000 years.
Man, amazingly how they overcome.
But I mean, you do see empires overturned and conquered, and they don't really talk about the death that comes along with that, because it's all those people died.
They didn't get to write the history books.
It's not a popular thing to remind people about, but that's the part of this that I don't want to see.
unidentified
You know?
And I don't mean to interrupt, but that's how Biden keeps on going back to this, too.
Like, well, when we write the history books, how do you want to be remembered?
And like, that seems to be a reoccurring argument.
Yes.
You notice that?
seamus coughlin
All the time.
Yeah, but it's very Hegelian.
tim pool
Yeah, it's going to be really funny when, in 50 years, there's going to be a teacher talking to the kids in their digital, like, you know, hologram class.
And they're going to be like, who can tell me about the leaders of the 21st century?
Ooh, me, me.
They were vapid, self-interested egotists who are desperate to be acknowledged by us in the future.
That's correct.
And what do we say to that?
Those people suck.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
Dude, that's so true.
They're such pick-me's.
They're like, come on, future people, tell me I was great.
Tell me I was good.
That's really what it is.
ian crossland
That was amazing.
Biden grabbed the wheel of the car because I think he was like, I got to do this for my own posterity.
And then all he's doing is ruining his own posterity by being unqualified, essentially, to run the country at the moment.
tim pool
You know what it is?
Look, I look at Japan when the Fukushima reactors melted down or whatever, the disaster.
A bunch of old Japanese, a bunch of Japanese seniors were like, I've lived my life, I'm gonna sacrifice myself to save the next generation.
And these elderly people were volunteering to go into the reactors to try and get under control, and many of them died.
I actually, the fixer that guided me and Luke Rutkowski into Fukushima, she was a bit older, and she was bringing journalists and people in there so that people could find out what was going on, she died of cancer.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
So these are the older people being like, no, no, no, it's fine.
Like, she wasn't even that old.
You know?
But these are people who are like, I've lived a long life.
I'm gonna do what I can now because if I die, the younger generation will survive.
I look at what's going out in the United States and in Europe and it's the opposite.
unidentified
It's old people being like, children should be restricted and put in plastic boxes so that I'm not inconvenienced.
They should be vaxxed if they're under the age of five.
Keep grandma safe.
ian crossland
There was a kingdom of heaven.
It used to be that you believed that if you died doing something righteous that you'd be rewarded.
And they told us that because they probably wanted people to live like that because it benefits society if the old people will sacrifice themselves for the young people.
It's very natural.
tim pool
No, I think it was an emergent phenomenon.
There's people who believe that religion was like powerful leaders who were like, I must trick the people into believing there's heaven.
No, I think people genuinely believed that.
ian crossland
Yeah, because you get the DMT rush at the end of life, where they're like, I see the light at the end of the tunnel.
tim pool
But look, it's actually really simple.
Outside of any theological argument or anything like that, if you take two groups of people, one believes in being righteous and honorable, and the other doesn't, which one is more likely to survive the catastrophe?
ian crossland
That's a good point.
Because in Japan, I don't know that they're necessarily Christian.
Were they?
Did they do this?
There's some sort of honor code, apparently.
tim pool
It's a very honorific culture.
They used to commit suicide.
I'm not going to pretend to be a historian on Japan, but people understand the memes about seppuku.
And the idea was if you failed or if you were dishonorable or something, you'd take your own life.
Now, I think that's kind of horrifying, but imagine what happens then.
If you have a group of scoundrels who are out for each other and are warring with each other, and you have a group of people who are like, I'm going to sacrifice myself for the greater good, which one survives in the long term?
unidentified
Well, this goes back to the point we brought up earlier about education.
That's why there's such an intense approach right now on the left to control what is and is not taught in government schools.
And it's because you see the kids who are raised by their parents who have more of the religious backings They're getting taught this at home, the idea that there is something beyond you in this present.
There is a future that you're building for that you're not going to see one day.
Whereas if the left can take that and get rid of that in the government schools at a young age, then they're basically undoing the work that the parents have invested.
And it's setting up to, to your point, the worldview that goes into that instant gratification without thinking of the posterity.
tim pool
What comes next?
I feel like the Democrat side, it's obviously not literally every person, but it's the overwhelming majority, are the people who are like, I hope future people like me.
That's why they always say, you're on the wrong side of history.
It's like, I'm not motivated by what future people think.
You know, imagine being someone in China in the early 1900s.
Yeah, you were on the wrong side of history opposing the murderous regime of Mao and the Gang of Four or whatever.
But today, you're now on the right side of history, at least to us.
I'm sure in communist China, they still don't like those who resisted.
They don't like the government of Taiwan, the actual government of China.
But that's the point.
I don't care what you think the right side of history is.
If these die cultists end up taking over, and it gets bad to the point where horrific things are happening in this country, and I end up leaving, I'm not going to be going around being like, I guess I was on the wrong side of history.
I'm going to be like, my country was taken over by psychopaths.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly.
Like, oh man, I wish I would have been on the right side of that one.
Cause like, just cause you lost doesn't mean you're on the wrong side.
tim pool
But listen to how, realize how they think then.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
There are legitimate, legitimately, there are Democrat activists who thought it's not right, but it will win.
That's why they decided to opt to supporting di-cultism.
seamus coughlin
Well, I just want to say if I were teleported to the future and everyone was transgender and it was a communist country where children didn't pick their identity until they were 12 years old, I would just make fun of them.
I would hope they didn't like me.
I would hope they didn't consider me.
tim pool
Or just go back in time and say, we got to fight for what we believe in.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, but I guess my point is there's actually an arrogance to saying I want to be on the right side of history, not just in the sense that you are presuming that you would be for doing what you're aiming to do, but also you're judging all of the past and saying, well, if we as modern people liked what you did, then you were one of the good guys.
So my aspiration should be to have future people judge me well.
Well, who says moral erosion doesn't occur in some areas?
There are things we look back on as being horrible that were actually better, and there are things that we look on today as being wonderful that are actually horrible.
tim pool
Imagine siding with some politics just because you think it's the one that's going to win.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, like I'd rather be correct.
tim pool
Could you imagine being someone who like made very popular YouTube videos and like song parodies, and then ended up taking them down because you were scared that, you know, the left would, you get banned.
Or, they would come after you, and that you genuinely just thought, it's not worth fighting for these things I think are true, because I'll lose.
Imagine being that kind of person.
unidentified
Well, people are scared, too.
I mean, I went up, so, as you mentioned earlier, my day job, I'm a sales executive, and I do a lot of talking about business technology, cybersecurity, and I went up to Wisconsin, I was talking at a small business owners' conference, and we were just talking about cybersecurity stuff.
At the very end of the Q&A, this guy comes up, and he's standing there, and he goes, Brian, you're very political.
And yet you also do a lot in the private sector.
How do you bridge the two worlds?
And it kind of caught me off guard because I'm there for a conversation about cybersecurity.
And I was like, honestly, at the end of the day, you just got to be your authentic self and say, this is who I am.
This is what I believe.
And I just, I firmly believe that good people will find good people and that good people will bring out the good in people.
Instead of hiding what you believe and keeping that back, I think we should lead with our values, lead with our ideas, and focus on building things that are outside of the traditional mainstream, getting away from the explaining, right?
Yeah, good ideas don't require force.
That's right.
Available at briannickleshow.com forward slash shop.
And if you wanted to create a better future, the opportunity is there right now.
You can start to build these solutions.
I mean, I had a guy on my show, he's the CEO of a pediatric cancer research company.
And they have not only created a system to get donations through cryptocurrency, but now they're using blockchain technology to help increase the research efficiencies of, you name the focus.
And he's talking about how there's Chicago schools that they do research and how they were getting siloed into, you know, I'm focusing on this project.
I'm focusing on this project and they're a mile apart from each other.
They're doing the same project.
They had no idea this entire time.
So taking it out of these silos, putting it onto blockchain and now creating an open environment where we can get things advanced faster, research done more quick.
And we're seeing more people's lives being saved as a result of that.
And that's all because somebody decided I'm going to go by my values.
I think that blockchain And NFTs has an amazing opportunity to just change the game.
And they jumped on that.
And now they're actually making things better.
They're saving little kids' lives.
That's a big deal.
tim pool
I figured it out.
The right, the libertarians, whatever, need to make the metaverse first.
ian crossland
Yes, that's what we're working on.
I just saw a little prototype on Wednesday.
seamus coughlin
That's their plan.
They want us to ghettoize ourselves.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, So they control all the big tech spaces.
Conservatives have ceded control.
I'm kidding, by the way, but my point is the right, the libertarians, have ceded control of our current economic system, internet and social media, to leftists and Silicon Valley.
So whether it's metaverse or whatever, my point is The right needs to start getting active and paying attention to what's going on.
unidentified
Web 3.
Yeah.
tim pool
And building things now.
ian crossland
I'm glad that Elon's doing the neural net.
We talk about it and everyone's like, oh, I don't know if I'm gonna, but it's good that it's him because that dude open sourced his Tesla patents.
If we can see, yeah, if we can see it says all your patents are belong to us if you look it up online.
I don't know if it's every Tesla patent, but it's a bunch.
So someone like that, build the metaverse, free the software code, or that's what I'm looking for.
That's why we're working on the metaverse with our current project with this charity that we're starting.
unidentified
Okay.
ian crossland
But we need to do that.
Before I was just like, let's just let it happen.
Let's beg the authorities to make them open source their code.
That's not, I'm not an authoritarian.
I'm not a, I'm not a fascist.
We got to do it ourselves.
So let's do it.
tim pool
Tough call.
Who wants to go in the metaverse?
unidentified
I don't.
I do.
tim pool
But if you build it first, you can prevent these, these wackos from doing all the evil things they plan on doing.
ian crossland
Which is basically tracking.
seamus coughlin
Or set the standard, can you?
Because they could make their own, couldn't they?
unidentified
They could, but you can now set the standard of what is acceptable and what people, I mean, think about it.
We, we look and judge For the most part.
Streaming platforms based on what Netflix was.
Right?
And that's what the subscription model turned into.
seamus coughlin
But the interface, not the ethic.
unidentified
Correct.
Correct.
100% correct.
So, like, we can do that, though, in terms of setting the groundwork.
Almost, again, setting that narrative.
And then either somebody else on the left would have to build something better that's going to attract more people, or they have to react and change behavior.
So, I think we can almost do both?
That make sense?
seamus coughlin
No, I'm not sure.
ian crossland
You think that we can build comparable technology and then change the behavior?
tim pool
Absolutely.
ian crossland
Yeah, you can, because once you control the tech, you can decide how the user interface looks and slightly guide people's behaviors.
seamus coughlin
I hear what you're saying.
ian crossland
The question is, is it ethical or not?
But yeah, that's what you can do.
unidentified
Well, and the left is doing it right now.
ian crossland
And that's the problem.
seamus coughlin
Mark Zuckerberg is overtly doing it.
unidentified
Yep, 100%.
seamus coughlin
And that's the thing, right?
With these social media platforms, people are already living online.
It's a very disturbing thing.
It's like we're in the matrix, but we're profoundly disabled because our only interface is this screen and our fingers to type with and if people do end up integrating with the metaverse They're gonna look back on us and go how sad and insane Ian you your analogy was it'll be like Morse code to them They just won't even understand how we could have such a well here interface, but I still think it's sad I think we should try to spend as much time in the real world as possible.
tim pool
I agree, but if Metaverse, in any fashion, be it Neuralink or just VR headsets, becomes just dominant in economics.
Why?
Remote work, for instance, makes it a viable option.
And the right just says, no, no, people should spend time in reality.
Well, that's not how people are actually going to respond.
Obviously, you might want it to happen, but it doesn't mean it's going to happen.
So what you can do is you can make a preemptive technological strike, and then When people do typically adopt this tech for, say, remote working, you own the means.
And you can actually say only two hours a day.
unidentified
So then the conversation isn't whether or not Elon Musk is going to build something else or by Twitter.
It'll be there already.
ian crossland
Basically, mine's software code is available to take and build on right now if Elon wants to do it.
tim pool
What's easier?
To storm the walls of Rome or to go there before Rome was built, plant your flag and then say, you know, this is our land.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's easier before, you know, so it's easier to claim the territory before the, before, you know, someone else builds up their fortifications and things like that.
ian crossland
So argue your point about rather spending time in reality.
What the argument you're going to get back with that is the metaverse is reality.
It's just a different way of seeing reality.
It's another kind, like TV shows are real.
They're just not, I don't know what you call this base reality.
I don't know how to, how to reference this.
seamus coughlin
This is real.
ian crossland
Well, it's all real.
unidentified
But they're dramatized reality.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
So when you're looking at an event that happened in the real world, there's a reason we create this distinction about whether something is based on true events when we're watching something in media, even though that term is also very much abused.
It's because there is a significant difference between something actually occurring in the world and a story that someone has told playing out before you in a simulated manner.
tim pool
Ooh, that's a good idea.
You need to watch these videos from TikTokers.
who are they they do these really we mentioned earlier in the show where they like if you watch a pixar movie people don't just talk they bounce when they talk so ian you have to understand and that's what they do on tiktok they do this weird like and they do side talking on their mouths and they like i twitch Metaverse will amplify that 1,000-fold.
Because these people are putting on a performance in their phones.
They probably don't go and actually do that to regular people at the gas station.
In the Metaverse, they'll be doing it 24-7.
That's a great point.
They'll be raised from 5 years old around people doing that.
And they'll come out, and here's what you need to understand.
When we watch these cringe TikTok videos, we understand what they're doing.
You know, smart, sane people say, yes, you're emulating an animation character from, like, Frozen or something.
But what we don't understand is when the metaverse drives this to, you know, a thousandfold— And this becomes normal.
No, no, it's not going to be people bouncing around.
There's a connection between base reality and movie characters bouncing and then humans adopting it.
But what happens when there's a rapid expansion of this bizarre behavior?
You'll have people just going like twitching and shaking and people... How about this one?
Young girls on Instagram were getting fake Tourettes.
There was a viral story.
They were getting Tourette's because they were seeing it.
seamus coughlin
And what's going to happen is... I have a friend in psychology who's explaining this to me.
tim pool
Imagine this.
Right now, we know what Tourette's is.
Let's say in the metaverse, a world develops one block at a time that results in people who have this weird tick where they just start like screaming, screeching.
So what I mean... The easiest way to explain it, I suppose, is the Tai Chi Hitler video I bring up all the time.
Where these companies were trying to make algorithmically manipulative videos that YouTube would promote them to babies.
You end up with the Incredible Hulk and Adolf Hitler doing Tai Chi while they sing nursery rhymes.
To a regular human, you're like, what is this?
This is psychotic.
seamus coughlin
Weird fever dream.
tim pool
But the algorithm put these pieces together to manipulate the code.
Now, if you live in the metaverse, and you're exposed to that a thousandfold, you're eventually going to walk out going, And they're going to be like, what is this guy doing?
And they're going to be like, it's just a thing they do in these shows in the metaverse.
Regular people in the real world are going to be like, yo, what's wrong with, what's wrong with these people?
Well, already when we watch these TikTokers bounce around, like they're in a Disney, you know, cartoon, we're like, something's wrong with these people.
Imagine if it's cranked up a hundred fold and they're just going, I mean, we can't communicate with each other as it is.
unidentified
Just imagine what it's going to be like in 20 years.
ian crossland
When you look at Roblox, what's happening is the kids that are in Roblox, in the metaverse with that system, are also building it as they're in it.
So you'll see basically a rapid expansion or a compounding expansion of change in those systems.
So if the people with fake Tourettes are actually the ones that are also building reality, then they'll create a Tourettes-ridden reality that makes you get more Tourettes and then it could exacerbate systems.
unidentified
It's like a feedback loop.
tim pool
People will rapidly start speaking very differently.
If Metaverse becomes something more prominent, people will build pocket communities, very much like a Discord or whatever.
But if you can experience it via Neuralink, man, then people are going to stay in those communities, they're going to isolate, and it's going to be like after the fall of Rome.
The Latin language splits up and becomes the Romance language in a bunch of different ways, and now you can't even communicate between them.
To a certain degree.
ian crossland
You know what else happened in Rome is they split the empire in half because they couldn't control it.
It's just basically like the metaverse and base reality.
If we split like that and you have the Eastern Roman Empire and the Western Roman Empire, which is now the world and the metaverse, or the universe and the metaverse.
tim pool
Check it out.
Already, because of the internet, we're speaking two different languages.
When we say racism, we're talking about prejudice based on race.
The left is talking about systems of pressure, you know, prejudice or whatever, from the dominant groups.
It means something totally different to them.
Amplify that.
These communities isolate further.
They go into private servers.
They go into metaverse.
You will create two distinct languages over time.
Maybe even more.
ian crossland
Yeah, probably more.
tim pool
It's how you end up with, you know, again, you know, Rome.
And then when it falls, you have the romance languages.
They're all very similar, but very different because they all end up getting isolated from each other.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, and to sort of tie it into the interesting philosophical question you posed earlier, which is why and how do we differentiate between reality and narrative and what goes on in the metaverse, it's important to remember that the strongest teacher for humans, generally speaking, is experience.
And so if someone experiences something or believes they've experienced something, it's going to influence the habits they end up developing.
And we see this even with film and television.
When you're sitting in front of a TV set, I mean, it's obvious that you're not in it.
You're looking at a screen in front of your face.
You're watching the main character.
It's not being seen from your point of view.
But we live in a country where basically everyone has main character syndrome right now, and they think their life is some kind of strange soap opera where they're the main character.
And so people have begun to interact with the real world in these bizarre and disordered ways just because of how much attention we place on fiction relative to what we should place on it, which is significantly less.
And if we get the metaverse up and running, it's just going to be that multiplied to degrees I couldn't even predict.
tim pool
Right.
I agree.
It's the craziest thing to me.
How many millennials have main character syndrome when I'm obviously the main character?
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
How could they not realize that?
seamus coughlin
And to be fair, it certainly didn't originate with millennials.
I mean, solipsism is basically just the pretentious philosophical way of saying you have main character syndrome.
But even that's a little different though, because main character syndrome also touches on the way the narratives are structured and how you place your life into that category.
Like you're on the hero's journey.
tim pool
Could you guys imagine if Seamus was the main character?
seamus coughlin
And I am, thank you.
unidentified
It's all in Freedom Tunes world.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
unidentified
That's the metaverse.
seamus coughlin
Little do you all know.
tim pool
We are actually just a show in the Freedom Tunes world.
That's it.
unidentified
I love it.
tim pool
We get a glimpse into them only sometimes.
seamus coughlin
Why is this so funny to you guys?
It's like, of course you are.
tim pool
Freedom Tunes.
seamus coughlin
That would be sad.
Here's the thing, if I was the main character, that would be very depressing.
I'm the best this universe has, not get out of here.
I wouldn't want to live in that universe.
I'm flawed, but like, I'm the most interesting person we can focus on.
ian crossland
Well, not yet.
You're growing into that.
seamus coughlin
That's the journey.
But doesn't the show have to start with the main character being interesting?
ian crossland
Usually you see their great flaw, which for you is being ironic.
unidentified
No, no, no, hold on.
ian crossland
I'm just kidding.
seamus coughlin
I'm Irish too.
tim pool
In Rambo, do we see 20 years of Rambo's growth?
No, no, the movie starts where it starts.
He's the main character.
So what you need to understand, Seamus, is that whenever the movie that you're in finally starts, probably when you're 35, you're gonna be super ripped with like your sleeves torn off and a bunch of guns.
It's gonna be post-apocalyptic and you'd be like, The name's Seamus, and I'm here to save you all.
ian crossland
And then they find out like you're also Catholic and they're like and you believe in God and then
you can deliver the wisdom of the ages.
seamus coughlin
And it'll be a good story.
unidentified
I mean to get really deep here but what is at its fundamental base the hero's journey?
It's the story of the hero being successful but overcoming some major event.
And we see this a lot, and it's kind of hit me, where people have created the trauma, whether it's real or not, in their lives so they can feel that I have overcome this terrible thing to be my hero.
And they look for trauma, they look for the bad things, in order to justify their hero's journey.
seamus coughlin
Amen.
Well, that's true.
And also, another really insidious thing that's happened is people expect their problems to be solved much more quickly than is reasonable.
Instant gratification.
Well, I mean, it's instant gratification.
It's also the fact that when you watch these television shows, if it's a 22-minute long program, the problem arises and it's solved within that neat little three-act structure.
People also don't understand that change can be irreversible.
It took me a while to understand this, and maybe that's just part of being young, but as a kid, it just seemed to me that everything was reversible.
Everything could be undone.
I had to learn the lesson as I got older that that wasn't true, and I didn't watch a whole lot of television.
That could just be something that's built into humans and we have to learn, but I suspect not.
I think it's the narratives that were fed that program us that way.
tim pool
Didn't they denature an egg?
seamus coughlin
De-nature an egg?
ian crossland
Yes, a protein had a chemical change.
An egg was cooked, I think, and the proteins fold or something like this.
I don't want to misrepresent this.
tim pool
They turn an egg into a hard-boiled egg, and they were like, the general idea is, you know, you can't reverse this process.
ian crossland
A chemical reaction, yeah.
tim pool
And then they figured out a way to actually reverse the process.
ian crossland
Like you could undo burns, maybe, theoretically, with this kind of technology.
It's pretty cool.
seamus coughlin
Interesting.
But there's still a lot that we can't undo, but let's say you're in the metaverse and you have a save point or a reset button.
tim pool
Or a time stone or something.
seamus coughlin
But this has happened to me, right?
I spend almost all of the time that I'm doing anything artistic doing it on the computer with my drawing tablet.
Dude, I have been drawing with a pencil and paper and have literally thought I have to hit the undo button and then realized, oh my gosh, I'm not using a computer.
tim pool
You know, I just admit it.
How amazing would it be if you were like a business meeting and you accidentally said, like, you're, you're, you're like, look, when we approach this orgasm, I mean, organism.
Oh, geez.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
I'm just going to load my save state real quick.
When you are approaching this organism.
ian crossland
That's a day people would do crazy stuff.
Have you ever seen someone play Skyrim and then reload their game after they go into the city and just take it?
tim pool
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Imagine this.
In the Metaverse, there's a bunch of other people who are there, and some guy walks into your office, and then you see him pull up and he goes, quick save, and you're like, uh oh.
seamus coughlin
You know be hilarious this could actually be a good like little short film this could be a good little short film But someone's in the metaverse for the first time and they think by pressing restart it like actually Restarts it, but it actually puts everyone back into their starting position, but of course because there are other people in the metaverse They have the memory of what you just did so this person keeps screwing up and restarting and doing all these absurd things They're like dude.
tim pool
We didn't forget that you did that actually here's how I'd approach it
It's a the person who goes in the metaverse for the first time thinking it's a single-player game
And so they're going around and they're saying really awful things and they're like ripping their clothes on Twitter
ian crossland
They're tweeting about it, but they don't know because they're in the metaverse. Yeah
tim pool
And then you know you're in the metaverse where you can't actually harass people in these ways
And so that's like you have been banned and like what happened
And they pull up their meta Twitter or whatever, and it's like everyone's posting videos of you, and it's like, oh no.
ian crossland
I want to weigh in on this main character syndrome.
Firstly, I think everyone is the main character.
You're the main character, and you're the main character.
Ian was the main character.
I am, and so are you.
It's not logical, but it is real.
We all have this perception that is dictating our reality.
Um, I think that a lot of stuff with Marvel, these superhero movies have put this in people's brains that they're heroes and villains.
And that there's a, like you said earlier, a show, you know, you wrap it by the end of the show and it starts again.
Also, I feel like Donald Trump did a really disservice to the species when he started talking about winning and losing so much as a candidate.
Like it was never about winning to any candidates before him.
They never talked about, we got to win.
It was about doing what's right for America.
And he came up and it's like, no matter what, we're going to win.
And now you see that all over the place.
People want to win, and they do dirty things to win, and it's not about that.
We all win if we work together.
tim pool
I think Donald Trump's the main character.
He's definitely the main character.
And we're all just NPCs in his story.
lydia smith
We're in his world.
tim pool
I mean, look at his life.
unidentified
It's true.
Look, I mean, I have a little bit of a solipsist.
I have a little bit of the main character.
tim pool
Look at his story.
It's like, you know, you start the video game off, and of course you have access to all this, like, wealth and privilege and stuff.
unidentified
Small loan of a million dollars.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
So, you know, and then he's a, you know, playboy, billionaire, celebrity, philanthropist, owns a building with his name in gold letters.
unidentified
Then he becomes the president.
He like woke up one day.
seamus coughlin
Dude, it's hysterical.
Hillary Clinton spent her whole life doing everything she could, employing every cynical political move possible to become the president.
This guy wakes up one morning, he's like, you know what?
I could be president.
unidentified
I better try to be president.
seamus coughlin
And then he beats her.
unidentified
And that's why she hates him so much.
seamus coughlin
I know, but it's hysterical.
unidentified
It's hysterical.
tim pool
I mean, in all honesty, though, Trump had been planning on running for a while.
And I should also take it back to Charlie Sheen.
ian crossland
Charlie Sheen kind of created the winning narrative.
Winning, winning, and then all of a sudden Trump starts saying it.
Winning, I'm winning.
I blame Charlie Sheen for all this.
unidentified
What?
ian crossland
Charlie?
seamus coughlin
He's the main character.
ian crossland
You said you were too crazy there when you were talking about your Adonis blood and stuff like that.
You went too crazy.
seamus coughlin
How many people do you think really were taking Charlie Sheen's life advice there?
ian crossland
Probably like 16,000.
seamus coughlin
I'll be specific.
unidentified
That is very specific.
seamus coughlin
Maybe Ian is the main character.
ian crossland
It was like written into their code.
tim pool
Ian's actually, we're in the metaverse and Ian is the only real player.
ian crossland
I thought I was.
I went through a psychosis phase in 2006-7 on YouTube.
I was smoking a lot of weed, making videos and watching myself.
And I was like, I am, this is my reality.
I'm creating this as I go.
And things start to synergize.
Like when you make a lot of YouTube videos, when you're online, you're exposing your soul to people.
Things do start to synergize for you.
Like you start to blend in with reality becomes one thing.
I had gone so far psycho that I was unbalanced, because you are the main character, but you're also part of a system where there's all these other main characters that are equally as powerful as you.
tim pool
It's called an MMO.
Everybody playing the game.
ian crossland
Massive multiplayer online game.
tim pool
Yeah, so, when you play like World of Warcraft or whatever, you can see who the NPC is, you can see who the players are.
So maybe...
It's what I was saying last week.
There are some people who don't believe they have souls, you know, and they'll say things like, just a wet robot, right?
And I'm like, man, I kind of feel like I have a soul, like I've had experiences.
Maybe the reality is they just don't, you know?
And so, but no, no, but you know, Seamus, you laugh, but like, I kind of was thinking, like, why should I assume someone has a soul if they're telling me they don't?
seamus coughlin
Because I do?
Because I think even though having a soul is a wonderful, beautiful thing and it's very good we have them, on some level, when you really consider the responsibility, it's a very frightening thing and it might be easier to abdicate that responsibility and say, I just don't have one.
tim pool
I don't freak out when I'm in World of Warcraft and I'm talking to a shopkeeper to, like, sell a bunch of crap and repair my armor.
unidentified
The consequences aren't real though, that's why.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
unidentified
Because you have that, you have that redo button.
ian crossland
Exactly.
In real life, the shopkeeper might be packing.
tim pool
You don't have a redo button in World of Warcraft.
I mean... Well, you can't.
unidentified
You can turn off the game and turn it back on.
tim pool
No, you can't.
No, it's an MMO.
ian crossland
But if you die, you just respawn.
tim pool
You can't turn the game off and on.
In MMOs, it's all real time.
If you sell your gear and you made a mistake, it's gone.
Or you can do a buyback.
But when you die, your armor gets damaged and you respawn because the point of the game is so you keep playing.
But yeah, you die.
There's no reloading.
There's no resetting.
So, my point isn't so much about turning the game on and off.
My point is, in World of Warcraft, as someone who is actively playing the game, you know who the other players are.
You can see them running around and doing stuff.
You'll notice some of the characters running around just don't behave like human beings.
And you can't even communicate with them effectively.
And I start wondering about this.
They call them NPCs for a reason.
If I go to someone and say, hey, I feel a soul within me.
I feel something greater than me.
It guides me.
Do you?
They say no.
I say, do you feel you have a soul?
They say no.
Maybe they don't.
Like, I'll trust them, I guess.
Why would I assume, if they're not experienced, that they have one?
seamus coughlin
Well, if we're talking about people in the real world, I think if you had a soul and free will, by definition, that would give you the option to say that you don't.
It's like if we were all required to say we had a soul, that we would lose our free will.
tim pool
I'm just saying, I think it's projection.
To be like, I've felt something within me, and I've experienced something, therefore other people must have as well, and if they can't, something must be wrong with them.
ian crossland
There's something about clearing your mind that allows you access to your soul, I believe.
The amyloid plaque on the neurons in the brain causes Alzheimer's.
It also diminishes your ability to feel, I think.
tim pool
So let's wrap this up real quick.
Sorry, but wrap it up with just a quick conspiracy theory.
seamus coughlin
Uh-oh.
unidentified
Oh yes.
tim pool
What if they say that fluoride, what did they say, calcifies the pineal gland?
unidentified
I heard it turns frogs gay too.
ian crossland
But they were hermaphroditic.
tim pool
So the conspiracy theory would be, what if powerful satanic, or maybe it's not fair to say satanic, but just evil, We're trying to cloud people's connections with the greater, you know, whatever it may be, whether you're religious or otherwise, whatever you think that is.
What if there are people who genuinely can't see into it because they've been polluted or, you know, blocked in some way?
unidentified
I mean, I think what you're saying, the idea of evil, for sure, is a real thing.
tim pool
Like, evil is out there, just as good as... No, but I mean, like, some people have a greater connection to the other realm, or beyond the veil, or whatever you want to call it, and some people don't.
Why?
Well, because of toxic chemicals or whatever.
I'm obviously talking specifically about conspiracy theories I'm not saying are true.
But, you know, one thing we mentioned on the show before was just like DMT giving you this connection that people have these profound experiences, and DMT is produced by your brain naturally.
Yeah, what if there are people who are being inhibited from being able to feel the greater power or whatever?
seamus coughlin
Well, there's a really fascinating philosophical discussion there about just the effect that our hormones and neurochemistry have on us, and it's been waging.
We all agree that there are some people who behave more morally than others, that much is evident.
And then the question becomes, how much of what this person did was their own agency?
How much of this is a result of a neurochemical imbalance or a mental illness?
I tend to lean towards agency because I think we over-pathologize and we sort of blame everything on the person's environment and don't really attribute responsibility to people anymore, which is unfortunate.
But it is a very interesting conversation, and on a case-by-case basis, it can be difficult.
tim pool
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All right.
Slane Hope says, have we all forgot that one of Joe Biden's first acts as president was killing six kids in a drone strike?
Is that really what he did?
unidentified
Yeah.
He messed up the Afghanistan at the end there.
Oh.
Remember, they were trying to get the, and they ended up getting a guy, I think he had water in his trunk.
He was bringing water inside to his kids and then they had a drone strike in his car.
Wow.
seamus coughlin
Yep.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
I can't say I'm surprised.
seamus coughlin
And there were so many bleeding hearts who were going, we have to get rid of Trump.
He's so terrible.
Look how bad he is.
Look how horrible he is on issues of human life.
It's like, dude, Joe Biden's worse on all of those.
He's worse on every single one of them.
unidentified
And he has been consistently.
Did you know Joe Biden got elected to the US Senate at the age of 29?
He was 29!
29!
He's been there his entire life.
tim pool
All right.
Liam O'Brien says... So he's done nothing productive.
lydia smith
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
We love you took Ian.
Maybe typo?
ian crossland
We love you too, Ian.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
We love you too, Ian.
Good to see a fellow Irishman on the show so often.
Thank you, Tim, for opening my eyes and turning me into a small L libertarian.
Hey, there you go.
seamus coughlin
I'm what they call a plastic patty.
You know wasn't born in Ireland other people look I didn't I didn't come in your guns blazing But I'm a little Irish leprechaun.
I have a bunch of gold a fan sent it because you all make fun of me No, my name and my ethnic identity you do know.
No you guys do you're always going.
tim pool
I'm Irish I'm Irish every like bro.
seamus coughlin
You're from Chicago every single time I I do anything wrong, or I say something offensive on the podcast, and the SPLC or Daily Beast write an article, Tim goes, he's Irish.
He's internalized his Irishness.
tim pool
Why did Seamus say those offensive things?
Well, you know, the inhumanity we've seen in this world.
He's Irish, so he feels it.
When people don't know this, but Seamus's actual dialect is a Chicago accent.
seamus coughlin
Actually, it is the way I really talk, all right?
We're talking about this.
unidentified
Seamus talks about garage doors and garage doors.
seamus coughlin
Spent the vast majority of my life in the suburbs out there, but you know, I'll steal the street cred from you, Tim.
tim pool
You know, people used to actually talk like that, and then it was cable TV that got rid of it all.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, in every area.
I mean, that's basically how my uncles talk.
My parents have a little bit of it.
When I was a little kid, I had a little bit of it.
ian crossland
It's... Yeah, I was in Northeast Ohio.
I went out to New York to start acting, and I actively dispersed my...
Accent, I guess I started to talk like TV like where there is no accent kind of or whatever.
seamus coughlin
Yeah I was looking at like some of the first cartoons I ever did when I still lived probably like 15 minutes outside Chicago and there were just like certain words I pronounced Differently and it's fun because you don't notice changing your pronunciation.
You don't talk about that that cat Yeah, just like democracy and well to get to get the Chicago a you don't say ah you say yeah Yeah, it's like a Y. It also depends on the part, too, because in different parts of the city, people do sound a little bit different.
tim pool
And it's crazy, because when you live there, you don't hear it from other people.
Like, to you, everything just sounds normal.
And then other people will be like, and you'll be like, huh?
And then you'll be like, when people really accentuate it, you're like, who talks like that?
seamus coughlin
Go down to the Apple Store.
tim pool
The one thing that always got me, though, is that people made up that Chicagoans say Chicago, and it's like a meme.
But nobody says in Chicago, it's an ah sound, not an ah sound.
I understand if it was Chicago, people would say Chicago, but literally no one does that.
It's the weirdest thing when people are like, oh, you're from Chicago.
And I'm like, bro, no one says that.
They say E-Apple and T-X-E.
seamus coughlin
That's the thing.
The people with the thickest Chicago accents say like Chicago.
They actually don't overdo the A in Chicago.
They say like Chicago.
The people I know with the thickest accents about their lives in the city actually pronounce the word Chicago with the accent.
It's a weird thing.
tim pool
But outside of Chicago, everyone thinks they say Chicago.
seamus coughlin
Chicago.
ian crossland
You ever do that thing where you say a word like 10 or 20 times in a row and it starts to sound really weird?
What sound am I making?
lydia smith
That's called semantic satiation.
Let's read some more.
tim pool
Remy says, Tim, you should have answered in your Fauci voice.
It would have been hilarious.
I'll do that next time.
unidentified
The next time the CDC calls.
Are you wearing your mask?
You better be wearing two masks.
Otherwise, the droplets will get all over your grandmother.
tim pool
Alright, where were we?
Rye Lines says, CDC is calling to see if you're home so they can SWAT you later.
Yeah, we got SWATed again.
unidentified
I heard that.
tim pool
It's part of the business.
ian crossland
I imagine that these entertainment industries, once it gets to a certain size, it's just like 10 a day.
And you just have it go right to law enforcement.
You have law enforcement on premises, so it's all handled without you having to deal with it.
tim pool
It's crazy.
You know, someone mentioned this to me.
They said, they asked me why it wasn't big news.
I can't remember who asked me this.
And I was like, I was like, I'm not sure what do you mean?
They were like, well, it's like, you know, you have one of the biggest podcasts and you've been swatted seven times in three, in like two and a half months.
Wouldn't that be a big story to these journalists who are constantly talking about the dangers of media?
Andy Ngo got attacked.
It was bad.
And even CNN covered it.
We had the bomb squad show up here.
We were swatted with the cop walking past the camera.
It's happened seven times.
Nope.
seamus coughlin
That is really weird.
tim pool
There's something really weird about me and this show that we're under the radar for whatever reason.
The show's big enough, but nobody cares to talk about it.
Good thing, I guess.
seamus coughlin
But I think it's also because you have three channels, and so I think you're someone people will talk about, but because you do three different shows every day, it's difficult to pinpoint the one that people are going to say you're known for.
tim pool
Well, the interesting thing is I've noticed there are a lot of people who don't watch, don't know they all exist.
Like there are people who watch this show who don't know that I have a morning show.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
And that I have two other YouTube channels, over a million subscribers.
So I've noticed when people are smack talking me, they'll say something like, oh yeah, he does this, like, you know, he does these videos like this.
And people will be like, no, he does like a podcast with people.
And they're like, no, he doesn't.
What are you talking about?
seamus coughlin
Mandela effect, bro.
They're like, I came from the universe where Tim Pool just does vlogs.
He's like, I came from the universe where he does a podcast.
tim pool
I'm like, I don't know, maybe I should just get rid of half the shows.
Cause I will say there's a diminishing return.
ian crossland
Your shows are cool though.
They're good to listen to cause it's pretty quick and you give like good news.
Talk about some interesting stuff.
tim pool
The interesting thing is on weekends, the clips from IRL get way more views because people who watch all of the shows don't have anything else to watch.
So that means the harder I work, the less money I end up making, you know?
ian crossland
So it's actually like, I'm trying to get you to... I'm trying to get Tim to write music with me during the day.
But that would entail him, like... Can't do it.
tim pool
I work basically, like, I wake up at 7.
ian crossland
Teach the humans.
tim pool
Immediately start reading the news.
And then I work typically until around 3 is when I finish the morning show stuff.
Like 3.30-ish.
Then I exercise, eat food, and then we get ready for this show.
Some days I get lucky enough to go to the bank.
lydia smith
Oh, exciting.
seamus coughlin
Lucky.
unidentified
Alright.
seamus coughlin
Then he rubs his stacks of cash all over his face.
unidentified
Yes!
tim pool
While playing that song, celebrate.
Pine Tree Squad says, I haven't had a good laugh during Timcast IRL in a while.
Between the commentary on CDC calling and all the rest of the good laughs are doing me good.
Stay safe everyone.
Much love from Pine Tree Squad.
unidentified
Nice.
seamus coughlin
This is a very fun episode, I will say.
tim pool
We'll make sure we have the CDC call more often.
That was funny, my phone rang and I was just kind of like, they keep calling me.
And it's the CDC for all I know, they're going to be like, you know, say something crazy.
seamus coughlin
Say you need to pay them in Apple gift cards.
ian crossland
That's the way to do it though.
tim pool
I mean, what if they're being hilarious?
ian crossland
You let them know that they're being recorded and if they're okay with that, that's the way.
If you ever want to put someone on video, you got to do that.
I think legally you got to do that so they know.
tim pool
Wouldn't it have been funny if like, I answer the phone and it's like, hello?
unidentified
This is Dr. Anthony Fauci.
I heard you say, I am, my car broke down, and I need you to send me a Walmart gift card.
tim pool
Wow, that sounds true.
Where do I send it?
unidentified
Just take a picture and send it.
You need to get Apple gift cards from your local Walmart and send them to me.
tim pool
Could you imagine if Seamus, if you were, if you actually were, you know, were able to pull that off, call people, pretending to be, call, you know what you should do?
You should legit call someone with like a different number and tell them you're Jordan, like someone you know, and tell them you're Jordan Peterson.
unidentified
It's Jordan Peterson.
Listen to me.
If you want to embody the archetypal hero, you need to go to Walmart and get some iTunes gift cards.
You need to send them to me.
You have to scratch the label off the back and tell me the codes immediately.
Listen, your computer has a virus.
I'm trying to fix it.
You owe the IRS $10,000.
I'm trying to help.
tim pool
Wait, wait, wait.
Do Ben Shapiro calling to inform me about your car's extended warranty?
unidentified
Okay, look, I'm trying to call you, reaching your car's extended warranty.
How are you doing today, sir?
What?
tim pool
I'm not playing that game.
seamus coughlin
Oh, so I'm supposed to do this by myself?
unidentified
Okay, I'm trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty.
Okay, did you know that you're... Here's the thing, I hang up on them immediately, so I don't even know what they say.
I know a bunch of people would say.
If you want your car to last a long time, you have to buy a decent warranty for it.
Because these things fall apart, folks.
We don't make things in America anymore like we used to.
Okay, gang.
Okay You have to get the app and frankly if you could grab some
Applebee's gift cards as well You have to help me stop the cultural Marxist send me
$75 iTunes gift cards Can we like prank call Dave Rubin doing that?
You'd be like I agree Like
You have to send these Walmart gift cards to the radical Marxist
They're going to take over!
tim pool
Yo, hey, hey, hold on.
We should legit prank call somebody.
Like, just find some prominent podcaster numbers I have and we'll film it for the vlog.
They'll be like, who is this?
It's Jordan Peterson.
Jordan, why are you calling me?
I need gift cards!
unidentified
Send them to me now!
Listen, listen, listen.
Brett Weinstein, your computer has a virus.
I'm trying to get it off your computer.
You need to let me help you.
Just install this program.
Give me your password.
We accidentally put $10,000 in your bank account.
We need you to send it back to us.
Here's the screenshot.
tim pool
What other... Jordan Peterson calling to say his car broke down and he needs you to send him money.
unidentified
I've just been doiling random numbers in my phone trying to find a good Samaritan.
Somebody please.
You know how gas prices are right now.
Gas is getting so expensive.
They'll only accept iTunes gift cards.
tim pool
Actually, you know what would be good?
You know what we'll do?
Like, legit, let's totally do this.
But you can call as the Intellectual Dark Web and do Dave Rubin, Ben Shapiro, and Jordan Peterson all trying to convince someone At the same time!
unidentified
Listen, you absolutely have to buy these gift cards.
We are actually going to starve to death out here.
I agree.
Our safety's at risk, okay?
Our safety's at risk.
tim pool
All right, let's read some more.
Let's read some more.
Awake, as Dawn says, Arizona governor signed multiple bills.
One, abortion after 15 weeks is illegal.
Two, proof of citizenship to vote.
And three, prevent youth from trans surgery and participation of trans women in women's sports.
Kind of feels like Arizona's gonna turn dark red in this upcoming election.
unidentified
What do you think that's gonna do for cinema?
tim pool
I don't know.
I think people actually kind of like her.
The left hates her.
She's pushed back on Democrats a lot, or enough.
And maybe, I don't know, maybe she might have to change to be a Republican.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, she's like basically turning into, uh, the, the version of, uh, what the hell is it guys?
West Virginia.
lydia smith
Manchin.
unidentified
Manchin.
Thank you.
Joe Manchin.
I was gonna say King.
tim pool
Someone, someone said, call CNN, please.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
It's called Brian Stelter.
tim pool
I wonder, I mean, I've got a bunch of phone numbers.
I have like, I got a bunch of people.
lydia smith
We'll call them.
seamus coughlin
We'll do a prank.
tim pool
I have like a journalist from the Atlantic.
lydia smith
Oh, sweet.
tim pool
I've got a ton of vice journalists.
I think I have, I've got like high up vice people, obviously.
ABC News people.
ian crossland
Who else I got?
lydia smith
Famous comedians.
unidentified
They would know we were pranking them, you know, but they'd probably just laugh and go along with it or something.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
You should call Ryan Long.
ian crossland
Let him know they're being recorded before you start talking in Peterson's voice.
unidentified
Yeah, I'm recording you, alright?
This is very important.
I record everything I do in case I want it to be a lecture.
If I upload this to YouTube, it'll get like 800,000 views, alright?
People like me.
tim pool
And then he can tell everyone on YouTube to give him his gift cards and scratch the back of the number.
seamus coughlin
Tim, oh my gosh, please read the, it was one right up there.
The $5 one from the football.
No, a little, a little higher.
It was... It might be gone forever.
It might be gone forever.
They said my cartoon inspired them to change their name.
lydia smith
Whoa, really?
tim pool
Where was that?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Oh, man.
seamus coughlin
I think it's gone.
I think it's gone forever.
unidentified
Crushed.
lydia smith
It's awesome.
seamus coughlin
His name was MoFootball, which is a line from my recent video.
You guys need to check it out.
It's a very important video.
I guess it's gone forever.
lydia smith
Thank you, MoFootball.
seamus coughlin
I guess we lost it.
Well, thank you, MoFootball.
tim pool
I want to thank you.
Maybe you were just seeing the... These are the older Super Chats.
So maybe it's just down.
unidentified
It's down further.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, no, it's probably down further.
But I want to thank you, my football.
Question mark, question mark, question mark.
And I want to ask you guys to watch that video so you get the joke.
Freedom Tunes.
unidentified
Go there.
tim pool
Bruce says, stop trying to take DeSantis from us in Florida, vagrants.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
tim pool
Nah, we all deserve DeSantis.
seamus coughlin
Hold on.
Do you think we deserve DeSantis?
I think he's great.
I think we want him.
Do we deserve him?
I don't know, man.
tim pool
What do you mean by that?
seamus coughlin
I don't think we deserve him.
tim pool
I was just kidding, being like, you can't have him, you know?
seamus coughlin
No, no, no, no, no.
Here's the thing.
You're not gonna win DeSantis over by taking him for granted, Tim.
tim pool
Oh, is that it?
seamus coughlin
So is DeSantis the kind of guy you play hard to get with, is the question?
tim pool
I don't want to be president!
seamus coughlin
He's like, we don't even want you as president.
Stay in Florida, dude.
Who cares?
And he's gonna be like, you know what?
unidentified
I'm gonna run for president even harder.
seamus coughlin
I feel like that would have worked for Trump.
unidentified
Yeah, Trump would be like, well, you know what?
tim pool
Maybe I will be president.
Yeah, when you're president, they let you do whatever you want, you know?
Pass executive orders.
Grab them by the executive order.
All right, let's read some more.
Let's read some more.
unidentified
Let's see.
tim pool
Kyle Buchanan says a small population state does the same thing Florida does years before, no one cares.
Florida says we are doing the same thing 20 other states have, then all the progressives freak out.
That's interesting.
unidentified
They're a big state.
tim pool
They are.
ian crossland
Timing too.
It's a lot about the timing.
tim pool
Here we go.
Cornelius Buttknuckle says, Trump and DeSantis need to squash whatever petty beef they have and commit to being running mates if either of them gets the Republican presidential nomination.
Because either way, a Trump-DeSantis ticket would absolutely crush.
That's true, man.
If Pence is out and good riddance, Trump-DeSantis would be pretty powerful.
unidentified
Yeah, that'd be great.
tim pool
But I feel like they're both eight-listers.
unidentified
Yeah, they are.
That's the problem.
seamus coughlin
It's tough.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So who, but who, what VP could Trump get without, you know, Pence was bad enough the first time.
ian crossland
You'd have to get someone, like, popular.
unidentified
What's her name from South Dakota?
seamus coughlin
Oh, no.
I think it's just a question of them running together in the primaries, right?
And whoever gets the nomination chooses the other to be their running mate.
I'm not saying it would be that straightforward, you know?
I'm sure they would have a little bit of difficulty there.
unidentified
That hasn't happened, though, in GOP history in a while.
ian crossland
Yeah, but it used to be the way it worked.
unidentified
I'm going back to, like, 2000.
seamus coughlin
Well, not necessarily the top two.
unidentified
Dick Cheney didn't run for president in 2000, did he?
No.
seamus coughlin
It can happen, though.
unidentified
Romney and Trump, all four Republicans, ran not with somebody who was also in the primaries.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I guess my point is that if he were to... I mean, it's a question of who should be the president, who should be the vice president.
I think you just let the primaries sort that out.
tim pool
All right, let's read some more.
We got Smoke Rings and Sada says, Tim, please make a T of cast castle animation Ian being sniffed by anime Joe Biden.
Natero from HXH would be perfect.
Oh, finally.
If Kent is watching, you can make an animation of Joe Biden sneaking up on you.
ian crossland
Finally.
tim pool
You're like, I'm a dude.
unidentified
I know, man.
ian crossland
Okay, just so you know.
unidentified
All right, let's grab some.
tim pool
Birthday Freak says, now the US.
Army has debuted a cute VTuber in order to recruit basement dwellers and Naruto runners across the country.
unidentified
Semper Waifu!
tim pool
Naruto runners?
I think it's funny that there are people who actually would like do that.
seamus coughlin
Would run like that?
No, yeah, there were kids in gym class, bro.
Who would, like, run around the field house.
unidentified
Wasn't that a joke about Area 51, like, two years ago?
seamus coughlin
And then what happened?
All of this stuff.
tim pool
Latin says, Tim, I'm in the Army, and the problem I'm finding isn't that people don't want to fight, it's that they don't want to die for these people and their crazy ideas and worldview.
I want everybody listening right now who is in the Army, the Marines, the Navy, the Air Force, Space Force, whatever it is, When you are, I don't know if any of you will actually see combat for whatever reason, but when you are, I want you to remember what you're fighting for.
Picture Kamala Harris in your mind, smiling and laughing.
And you will find the inspiration to never give up.
seamus coughlin
These people hate you.
tim pool
Or you will just give up.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, you will 100% give up.
That's what I was saying earlier.
The people who enlist in the army know that these people hate them.
The people who would ordinarily enlist in the army know these people hate them.
tim pool
We're gonna do it.
Mason Barnett says, I think your idea of a truthies ceremony would be a good thing.
What better way to build good culture than promoting good truthful news and journalism?
What should we do?
A hundred grand to the truthy awards?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, look, Tim, I've been real honest lately, bro.
I've been real honest lately.
ian crossland
So what we could do is... A nominee, Seamus.
tim pool
We could do like five categories.
We could do five categories like truth in news, truth in sports, truth in entertainment, truth in political cartoons, truth in politics, truth in Freedom Tunes episodes.
Yes, one whole category.
You always win.
No, but think about it.
Truth in politics.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
So out of the three politicians who are good, you know, we'll be like, this person's consistently, Rand Paul.
Yeah.
And then, um, for journalism, obviously for, for, you know, arts and entertainment, be video games and movies.
And then we say, you know, like your, your honesty and your, your approach.
$10,000 plus an award and a ceremony.
We could do that.
lydia smith
Yeah, that'd be fun.
seamus coughlin
You have to make sure they're really honest.
You have to do a golden ticket type thing where the people you're thinking of nominating win a trip to your studio and then you try to pull a Willy Wonka and get them to break the rules along the way and whoever doesn't gets the truthy.
tim pool
I think what we would do is we'd have a nominating board of prominent individuals who are, you know, trusted and then they would determine who they think is doing a good job in these spaces.
You'd probably have to have someone who- I'll nominate you.
We'll just have Seamus pretend to be all of them.
unidentified
Listen, I'll nominate you for this truth-seeking award, but you have to send me your iTunes gift cards.
Go to Walmart immediately.
tim pool
Can we get Jordan Peterson scamming people into smashing the like button?
unidentified
Alright, listen.
I am with the bank and we accidentally put $10,000 in your account that didn't belong there.
Now, we're willing to let you keep it if you just smash the like button.
It's the least you could do.
We're out $10,000 on your account.
tim pool
There we go.
All right.
J. Carr says, the Truthy Awards is a winning idea on many levels.
It will encompass and represent everything the independents do and emancipate the stelters of the world.
ian crossland
I don't like the name Truthy, though.
unidentified
Maybe we could find a... It was a joke.
seamus coughlin
We should call it Truth-er.
Call them the Truthy Awards.
tim pool
We can call it maybe like the Ian Awards.
Daria says, yeah, I wouldn't join, or in my case, under this insanity either.
I did my eight and a half years, I'm good.
Kind of sad to hear it though, you know?
lydia smith
Yeah, it's really sad.
tim pool
Yep.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Sagar and Jetty Today said, folks who want war won't have kids in it.
Wars last longer than we think and we forget about all the battles and people we lost.
ian crossland
Yeah, World War Two is a holdover from World War One.
Many people say it was just the same war.
tim pool
Should we bring back the soundboard and we'll get Seamus to do like a Jordan Peterson smash the like button and a Ben Shapiro smash the like button?
seamus coughlin
We're gonna have to think about it.
I mean, look, if you do more Fauci for me, but you said you're holding out on me until I get you those union rates.
I can't afford that.
tim pool
Well, that was the last two bits that I did with you on Freedom Tunes was that Fauci is gone.
He's like, he's been dumped.
seamus coughlin
But so I'm actually working really hard.
If you guys want to donate on Patreon, we're working really hard to bioengineer a virus so that Bauchi will come back and we can do more cartoons about him.
Oh, I think Patreon.com slash Freedom Tunes.
tim pool
I've been talking to EcoHealth Alliance, you know, just like I want to do a job, man.
You know, like all everything we do here is funded by my my my residuals off of these Freedom Tunes voiceover bits I have.
seamus coughlin
It's true.
Yeah.
Yeah, we need.
Yeah.
tim pool
Seriously, JK says greatest advice to come out of the 80s, don't fall victim to one of the classic blunders.
The most famous being, never get involved in a land war in Asia.
That's right.
lydia smith
Correct.
tim pool
That's true.
Surprise Mechanic says, speaking of Hasan, I found out today that I work with his brother, Murat.
It's funny that Hasan spends all day bashing American hegemony, but when his brother works for the DOD.
unidentified
Interesting.
tim pool
Yep.
I'm surprised Cenk's doing it.
I've invited him on numerous times, politely, and he's always just doubled down, smack-talking me.
Like, the first time I invited him, I was like, hey, Cenk, you know, we'd love to have you on and talk about this stuff, and then he just, like, ignores it.
See him in person, he screams at me.
Yeah, that happened.
I was at Politicon.
He started screaming at me.
I'm like, why are you yelling at me?
I don't know what's happening.
ian crossland
That's cool.
What's going on?
unidentified
It's Steve Carell in Anchorman.
I don't know what we're yelling about!
lydia smith
Exactly.
ian crossland
I'm really glad they're doing that debate.
I want to watch that.
That's cool.
Or talk or whatever they're doing.
I'm glad.
I want to get Cenk more involved.
I don't like seeing him angry.
tim pool
Here's what I think.
I think anybody who rejects a chance at a conversation is not a legitimate personality, right?
So there's a lot of prominent left-wing personalities, high profile, that I think are just total grifters.
Now, they like to accuse Tucker Carlson or me or us here, but we invite these people on all the time and they always play dirty games.
Well, I will only come on digitally.
Yeah, we saw what happened with Crowder, dude.
You guys aren't serious.
It's not a serious question.
seamus coughlin
Also, it's literally called Timcast IRL because people don't- that's the whole point of the show is that we don't do digital guests.
tim pool
And it just doesn't work.
It doesn't.
And they were like, well, you went on Ben Shapiro's show over the internet.
And I was like, we filmed it and then took the memory card and delivered it three hours away to a data uplink center because we didn't have internet.
And I'm like, that was his show, not mine.
Like, I've also gone on Megyn Kelly from here, you know?
But that's different.
I also don't really go on other people's shows in the past few years either.
But we've invited so many of these people, they won't do it.
Vosh'll do it.
Yep.
One of the few who will.
Destiny.
I have tremendous respect for Destiny for coming on, because he kind of just... I think he genuinely believes what he believes, for sure.
I just really disagree with his opinions on policy and stuff.
But he definitely stands by what he says.
And I think he'll correct himself.
He called out Kyle Rittenhouse properly.
Self-defense.
He got banned over it.
What did he recently get banned for?
lydia smith
I don't remember.
ian crossland
Is that Lauren Southern?
They were working together?
tim pool
He was debating her or something, right?
ian crossland
Yeah, Lauren posted about it.
tim pool
Twitch is dumb.
If you're on Twitch, man, I don't know.
ian crossland
Amazon owns it.
tim pool
All right, Marcus Casey says, Tim, Army veteran here.
Resigned as captain in 2018 when I saw the toxic leadership mirrored in attitude of lower enlisted.
Us mid-tier leaders would never condone it, but glad to be out seeing the pathetic culture now.
Man, that's really sad.
ian crossland
I know, because we need people like you in the military.
unidentified
That is really sad that it's come to this.
tim pool
Yeah, there was one.
Let me see.
There's a super chat.
I'm trying to find Doug Hanson says, Ian, reservist combat engineer here.
We enlist for lots of reasons.
It isn't dumb.
It's a pro versus con decision, made person by person.
Your elitism is close to DNC levels.
ian crossland
I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to imply that it was dumb.
I didn't say that either.
It's not for everyone.
And my dad was clear with me that if I wanted to be creative and do a creative life and have a creative career that I should not join.
It had nothing to do with people being dumb.
It's an important job.
Defense is massively important.
tim pool
There's a super chat I'm looking for specifically.
I can't find it.
Oh well.
Maybe it got deleted.
It was specifically one person saying Tim never reads my super chats and I'm like, I'm gonna find that one.
seamus coughlin
Oh, that's rough.
unidentified
Well, I'm trying to find it, but it's gone.
tim pool
Maybe it's down here at the bottom.
Let's go to the bottom.
See, uh, I don't know.
Maybe it's just gone.
unidentified
We'll see if we can find it.
lydia smith
We're really looking.
tim pool
All right.
We'll just we'll keep reading until we see we go.
Oh, here we go.
I see it.
We'll read it next.
seamus coughlin
By the way, I wanted to mention because Ian, I just want to clear the record because you mentioned the thing about Lauren Southern.
I think this is one article I have pulled up on PC Gamer in which it says Destiny said in a Reddit post that he thinks the ban was imposed because of his stance that quote-unquote trans women shouldn't compete with cis women in women's athletics.
That's what he believes.
I'm not sure what Twitch said.
tim pool
We should have him back on.
Actually, I wonder if we can pull him last minute for a conversation with someone from the Daily Wire or something like that.
lydia smith
Oh, that'd be fun, yeah.
tim pool
Alright, MadPanda says, I want TimCast to start doing a weekly prepping episode covering best firearms for home defense, how to store food, the fundamentals of growing food, raising chickens, or fowl for protein, the basics.
I'm pretty sure we could actually do that.
Because we've had Steve from Fortitude Ranch on a couple times.
And so I don't know if he's the guy to do it, but we could probably find someone who could go over all these basic things.
It would be excellent advertising, obviously, for them and what they're setting up.
And it would be a cool show.
Alright, here we go.
Brian Grinch.
I did not miss you.
He says, lost count of how many unread superchats I've had.
I wish Tim was nicer to Ian, but I also wish Ian said smarter things.
Tim, look into tactical response in Tennessee.
Best gun school in the world.
Building culture and saving lives.
seamus coughlin
Cool beans.
ian crossland
It's an act, you guys.
I know it's confusing because it seems real, but we're on TV right now.
lydia smith
They're good pals.
tim pool
You say that, Ian.
ian crossland
You've got to watch the after show if you want to see how it really gets.
seamus coughlin
No, I mean... Ian doesn't even like graphene.
tim pool
The only place that Tim and I... Yeah, Ian's got a... He's actually British.
seamus coughlin
He's like, I like oil, I really like oil, and the Federal Reserve's great.
ian crossland
I'm a big fan of the Federal Reserve.
tim pool
As soon as the show ends, he puts his hair back, he puts on a suit jacket and a tie, and he's like, oof, I'm gonna go call Ben Bernanke and tell him how much I loved his work.
seamus coughlin
He goes back to the Presbyterian church he's an elder at.
lydia smith
He's a day trader, yeah.
ian crossland
It's an act insofar as it's censored, what we're doing right now.
Here we go.
It's a TV show.
tim pool
Danny066 says, Marjorie Taylor Green did a Fox News interview from the TimCast IRL studio a few months back.
That's right, it was January 5th, and you could see the TimCast behind her.
It was great.
Someone says Ted Nugent.
Yes, that would be great.
lydia smith
He's awesome.
He's so cool.
Love to.
tim pool
All right, we'll grab one more.
Here we go.
Brian Knowles says, got an email today from the U.S.
Army.
They're offering up to a $50,000 bonus for joining right now.
You're on point.
Decoy Voice was saying the same thing.
seamus coughlin
They're like, we'll also give you another mom.
Yeah.
unidentified
We'll give you four moms.
tim pool
Just please, please enlist.
The Russians are coming.
All right, everybody, if you haven't already, smash the like button.
Do it for Jordan Peterson because he- Smash the like button, man.
unidentified
Embody the archetypal hero!
We accidentally put too much money in your bank account, give me the iTunes gift cards!
tim pool
And you can go to TimCast.com, become a member to watch our members-only show, and do it for Jordan Peterson.
unidentified
Do it for me.
Become the archetypal hero.
tim pool
And sign up at TimCast.com.
unidentified
And sign up at FreedomTunes.com.
It's a wonderful website.
tim pool
Alright, you can follow the show at TimCast IRL.
You can follow me at TimCast.
Brian, you want to shout anything out?
unidentified
Absolutely.
Two things.
Good guest of the show.
I know you guys are friends.
Lily Tang Williams.
Nice to have her on my show.
She's phenomenal.
seamus coughlin
She's amazing.
unidentified
She's running for Congress in New Hampshire right now.
She owes me an iTunes gift card.
Well, she's looking for 10k right now in fundraising today's the last day of the quarter.
tim pool
Get the gift cards!
I think you gotta make a cartoon.
seamus coughlin
I think I might have to do Jordan Peterson solicits.
tim pool
He's calling like Dave Rubin and Ben Shapiro trying to get gift cards.
Because the IRS- No, no, actual grifter.
seamus coughlin
No, no, no, the IRS calls Jordan Peterson and they're like, we need these iTunes gift cards.
unidentified
He's like, oh no!
seamus coughlin
Oh no, so he's calling and he's like, can you get me an iTunes gift card?
tim pool
You should make it that Jordan Peterson's an actual grifter.
And so he calls his fans and gets them to send him iTunes gift cards.
unidentified
We are Libertarians.com.
We have 13 or so shows, and then my show, BrianNicholsShow.com.
What we do is we focus on winning converts, not arguments.
So, I take the approach of sales and marketing that I use in the business world, and I bring it to the world of politics.
So, you want to get better at talking about the ideas that we all talk about every single day, but I actually want people to say, hey, tell me more.
I want to learn a little bit more and make this actually happen.
BrianNicholsShow.com.
tim pool
Right on.
unidentified
Cool.
seamus coughlin
If you have iTunes gift cards, send them to us.
I was like, this is right on the line of the joke being dead.
unidentified
I wasn't sure if I should go in on it.
seamus coughlin
That's what I want to promote right now.
So I have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.
We upload a new cartoon every single week, sometimes twice a week.
That's unheard of in this current era with the way that YouTube treats animation.
So go check it out.
Support the few remaining animators, few remaining cartoonists on YouTube.
Check it out.
Freedom Tunes released a cartoon today, which was It's absolutely hysterical.
You'll all love it.
It's about men competing in women's sports and, like, this very milquetoast response we get from a lot of establishment conservatives about it.
Go watch.
Please.
I love you.
ian crossland
I love you, too, Seamus.
Thank you for telling everyone that you love them, too.
That was very nice of you.
I wanted to point out, really emphasize what you said about Lillie Tang Williams.
She's running for governor?
unidentified
No, Congress.
ian crossland
Congress in New Hampshire?
unidentified
New Hampshire.
ian crossland
People can donate to her campaign?
unidentified
Yes, and today's the last day of the quarter fundraising.
She's $10K behind where she wants to be, so go.
ian crossland
And what is it?
What's her website?
Do you know offhand?
unidentified
Lily for Congress.
ian crossland
She's an incredible human being.
seamus coughlin
She is amazing, dude.
I love her.
She was on the podcast.
I was like, all right, this person's fantastic.
A lot of great guests on the podcast, but LilyTangWilliams.com.
unidentified
And by the way, if you, and like, I know folks have seen her in the program, but like her story is incredible.
It is like, oh my, it's terrifying too.
Like growing up in Mao's China is it's such a different world, which we need to hear that story today.
Cause I think I just, it's, it's a story we're not hearing.
seamus coughlin
Agreed.
When there's something so refreshing about a person who has a spine, you know what I mean?
Like, and in fact, that woman really has a strong backbone.
ian crossland
I love her.
I want to point out, too, a research study.
This is from WebMD about the calcification of the pineal gland.
A research study done in the 90s found high concentrations of fluoride in the pineal glands of study participants.
Fluoride from water and pesticides accumulate in the pineal gland more than in any other part of the body.
After accumulation, they form crystals, creating a hard shell called calcification.
seamus coughlin
So how can I get these particles, this fluoride, out of my pineal gland?
ian crossland
How to decalcify the pineal gland.
I would advise searching up on the internet and looking into it.
I think breath work can do it.
seamus coughlin
Honestly, I don't.
You're going to find some weird stuff.
I don't know.
ian crossland
I was doing a Wim Hof breathing method.
He has beginner classes and stuff on the internet.
seamus coughlin
Is this a real thing?
I was being facetious.
ian crossland
Oh yeah, you can decalcify.
You can do things to help decalcify your pineal gland.
Theoretically, I think.
I've never actually looked at it under a microscope and seen it in real time or anything.
But the breathing methods really, really helped.
I think also there are, you know, endogenous ways to produce DMT and things like that.
Breathing, stretching, food.
Certain foods could probably bring it out of you.
Thanks guys!
Have an amazing evening and hopefully maybe see you later on the after show.
lydia smith
Absolutely.
Come join us on the after show.
Go become members at TimCast.com.
You guys may follow me on Twitter and Mines.com at SourPatchLids.
I also have sour patch lids dot me And I'm gonna throw I'm just I'm trying to Tim is I'm
tim pool
making a researching. No, I'm making a maximum contribution to a lily tingle
seamus coughlin
Oh, yeah, do it with him. It's amazing. I go in on it. Yes, so you what you went to Walmart?
unidentified
Yeah, Tim's been to Walmart if you know what I mean He got the cards.
ian crossland
In all quotes.
tim pool
I just did a maximum contribution.
ian crossland
What's maximum?
Can you say that out loud?
tim pool
It'll be in the public records.
ian crossland
You got it, baby!
Tim Pool, ladies and gentlemen.
tim pool
Alright everybody, head over to TimCast.com, become a member because we're going to see you all about 11pm.
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