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March 30, 2022 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Rogan Threatens To QUIT If Censorship Restricts His Show w/Robby Starbuck
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tim pool
Peace out yo!
Actually, it was more of a passive comment about censorship that I think isn't as big of a deal to him, but this is what usually happens in the media, because the narrative coming out now is that Joe Rogan threatens to quit his $200 million Spotify deal if he has to walk on eggshells and mind his Ps and Qs.
Now, I think it's legitimate to say he's threatening to quit, and obviously Spotify's listening, and we do know that there have been episodes that have been delayed or held back on spotify since the latest outrage over joe or whatever it is so i think it's entirely possible joe is kind of doing a you know passive state like like he doesn't want to call up spotify and say hey how dare you or maybe he has i don't really know but we are you know so this is him going on a show and saying hey if this gets bad i'll be quitting so that's i think that's that's an interesting story to get into as it pertains to censorship and uh what joe's willing to do
But I do think it's more interesting that we've already seen episodes held or deleted, and there's a lot to talk about.
Because I wonder if Joe's already at the point where he's taken episodes down.
So is he not already walking on eggshells?
Doesn't it already seem like he's moving and the show's changing?
We'll have a conversation about that.
And we contemplated which was more newsworthy or a better lead, because the next one is hilarious.
CNN is reportedly already, CNN Plus, is reportedly already failing on multiple fronts. One,
there have been some issues about technical errors on CNN's new streaming platform, which launched
yesterday. But we heard on day one of their launch, they were offering a 50% lifetime discount,
which is not confidence building for people who are watching. It seems CNN wasn't able to
actually get anybody to sign up.
Now it's being reported layoffs as early as May because Talk about a crazy time in media.
We've also got Jon Stewart going totally woke and complaining about white people.
Bill Maher also going woke and saying Republicans hate black people, which is funny because he was referencing Clarence Thomas, which I'm pretty sure is like one of the most popular conservative judges among Republicans, especially.
And then we get to Disney.
There's the Disney president or a Disney executive saying they want half of all content to be LGBTQIA or racial minorities, and there's a lot to break down there.
And then, of course, we can talk about, you know, nuclear war and whatever and inflation destroying your lives and, you know, whatever might scare you.
But we'll talk about media, I guess.
Joining us to discuss this and also a nefarious plot to destroy the congressional campaign of Robbie Starbuck is Robbie Starbuck.
Thank you for having me.
robby starbuck
I appreciate it.
tim pool
Do you want to introduce yourself?
robby starbuck
Yeah, so Robbie Starbuck, for those of you who don't know, I'm running for Congress in Tennessee, Middle Tennessee, District 5.
You know, and a big part of our campaign has just been making sure that we get rid of all of these queer politicians and that we get real people in there to actually do the work of the people.
And I think, you know, a big part of that for us has been saying no to every corporation that's knocked on our door and said, we want to give you money or get a pact to funnel money to your campaign.
We don't want it.
I'd rather put in my own money and, you know, have a grassroots operation than be one of those people that answers to Amazon in D.C.
tim pool
So what you're saying is we need politicians that represent the will of the people.
robby starbuck
Exactly, exactly.
That was a strong lead into promoting the song.
No, whatever.
I might need to ask you about taking that song for a commercial.
You know, you never know.
tim pool
Oh yeah, cool.
We also have Ian Easter.
ian crossland
Hi everyone, I'm back.
Good to see you all.
I hope you're all doing well.
I'm doing extremely well myself.
I received this in the mail and I want to show it to you.
Someone sent this to me.
I was like, what is this?
And I opened it.
Can you see from here?
It's a 20-sided... It ruined my joke.
It's a 20-sided die, but it's all 20s.
I think it's 20-sided.
lydia smith
Oh, Ian can help roll a 20.
ian crossland
Yeah, so there's no losing here.
I hope you're doing well.
I'm going to ease back into this, man.
Some crazy stuff happened this last weekend, and I want to talk about it.
Especially Will Smith jacking that guy on stage, because that's totally unacceptable.
tim pool
That guy?
Chris Rock?
lydia smith
I don't know about that phrasing.
unidentified
Totally fake.
tim pool
I think it's fake.
robby starbuck
Yeah, the phrasing could be cleaned up there.
unidentified
Welcome.
ian crossland
I'm from the 90s.
lydia smith
Yeah, I'm also here in the corner pushing buttons.
Very enjoyable.
We love having Robbie, and we're excited to hear what he has to say this evening.
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ian crossland
I'm listening, I was just shaking up my coconut water.
tim pool
Ian turns to me and he's shaking, he's like, I'm like, do you need to say something?
ian crossland
Casting a spell on you, Tim.
tim pool
I thought you needed to promote something.
ian crossland
No, no, continue, please.
tim pool
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Let's take this story about Joe Rogan's passive comment and turn it into a major news cycle event, I suppose, because that seems to be what everyone does.
But I want to talk about censorship.
I want to talk about what's happening with big media, with YouTube, with CNN.
And I do think it's worth launching off with this.
So we have this story from Daily Mail.
Joe Rogan threatens to quit his $200 million Spotify deal if he has to walk on eggshells and mind my P's and Q's following N-word and vaccine misinformation controversies.
They say on the Joe Rogan Experience, guest and MMA fighter Josh Barrett, 44, said he was worried he'd be judged for every little thing.
I will quit if it gets to a point that I can't do it anymore, where I have to do it in some sort of weird way, where I walk on eggshells," Roken replied.
He has been under fire in recent months, this we understand, and now he's basically come out and made this statement.
Joe also came out and talked about Chris Rock getting slapped in the face, because I think as a comedian, everyone's like, yo, that was not cool to smack Chris Rock, but we'll get into that stuff later.
I want to point out, first and foremost, as I said, is this just a passive comment?
You know, he's sitting there, he's doing his show, and he's like, I'd quit if it got to that point.
Because I just want to mention, hasn't it got to that point?
How many episodes now have been taken down of the Joe Rogan experience?
Do we know?
unidentified
Countless.
tim pool
What's that website?
Do you know what that website is?
lydia smith
I don't know what it is.
tim pool
I'm looking into it though.
It's countless though.
Jremissing.com?
robby starbuck
I mean, it's ridiculous.
tim pool
Let me see if I can find it.
Is it Jremissing.com?
There you go.
113 episodes of the Joe Rogan podcast are missing from Spotify.
And on February 4th, 2022, a whole bunch of episodes were taken down, including one with Kyle Kalinske.
So everyone said the reason they were taken down is because they're episodes where Joe said the N-word.
Kyle said that wasn't true.
Right.
And he said in that episode, though, he was talking about Saudi Arabia and that's what he thinks.
So I just gotta call it like it is, man.
I think Joe's a good dude.
I think he does tremendous good.
But I'm also not convinced he would quit.
I think that if it really did came down to it, Joe would not publicly say, hey, I'm being forced to do something.
Where was Joe Rogan's statement on why Majid Nawaz's episode was withheld for three weeks?
I think it was three weeks.
Majid was lighting up the internet on this.
Majid hosts, you know, previously and recently hosted a huge show on the radio in London.
What's LBC stand for?
It's not London Broadcasting Company.
I don't remember.
lydia smith
British Channel or something?
tim pool
No, it's not that.
It was like Conversation.
Something like that.
I don't know.
lydia smith
London's Biggest Conversation?
ian crossland
London Broadcasting Company originally.
tim pool
No, no, no.
That's not what it stands for.
ian crossland
That's what this says.
tim pool
It's a radio show.
It means something else.
Because I said that to him and I was like, what is it?
London Broadcasting Corporation?
He laughed.
He's like, no, it's like something Biggest Conversation.
But anyway, imagine it was not some random nobody.
So when he goes and records with Joe and talks about a whole bunch of really important stuff, and then the episode doesn't go live for almost a month, and we hear nothing from Joe, I gotta be honest, as much as I think Joe is a good dude, and I think he does stand up for a lot of people in good ways, I also think that if it really came down to it, he would not tell us he's being censored, he'd pull the episodes, passively mention them, you know, not really give some good answer, and then the reality is, he'd likely apologize.
robby starbuck
Well, that's my frustration a lot with, you know, the totality of Hollywood and entertainment.
Because, you know, for those who don't know that, that was where I started.
You know, I directed Oscar winning actors, actresses, some of the biggest music stars.
And, you know, being in that world, I always hear now that I'm in politics, people go, Oh, was it really hard being like the lone conservative?
And the truth is, I was not the lone person on that side.
The reality is, is there's a bunch of cowards.
tim pool
I was going to say you're making conservatives sound like cowards, but you said it before me.
robby starbuck
They're a bunch of cowards, you know, and I've said it to their faces.
And some of these people are the biggest stars in the industry.
And they're just terrified of not having easy access to capital.
It's not just access.
It's easy access.
tim pool
I could call out some people right now.
Yep. Because I remember I was hanging out in LA and there was a bunch of Trump supporters that were
doing some event and there was some celebrity they saw who they knew and they walked up and they,
you know, high five, fist bump, gave hugs. And then this individual just was like, no, no, no,
nobody can know. Nobody can know. It's like, I'll lose, I'll lose everything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
robby starbuck
Naming names.
It's a big thing.
That cowardice is going to cost us something at some point.
And that's why I think we've got to try to motivate these people to show that you can have success outside of this because it does have a cultural impact.
And then being able to see that, honestly, even on levels like this, that a show like this can be as successful as it is.
I would hope would give some sort of inspiration to somebody like Rogan to say, you know what?
And he's done this before.
Before he was with Spotify.
So I wish it would just sort of encourage those people to say, you know, have some courage.
Go fight for something.
Fight for free speech.
Fight for these values you say you believe in.
Because that episode's incredible, by the way.
You know, he went hard.
Majid?
How do you say his name?
Imagine.
tim pool
It was one of the most significant Rogan episodes ever, which is why I always want to cut Joe slack.
He's got the biggest podcast in the world.
He does tremendous good.
He reaches so many people, and I know a ton of people who are like left-leaning normies who have learned a lot of truth and principle because they watch Joe.
robby starbuck
Absolutely.
tim pool
But I'm gonna be honest, when I look at this, I can't come out here in good conscience and be like, look, I know Joe, I consider him a friend, and he's totally right.
He'll stand up.
I'm like, dude, everybody knows that episodes have been pulled.
Everybody knows that episodes have been withheld or delayed.
Everybody knows Joe's apologized for a variety of things.
I think it would be dishonest for me to just be like, oh yeah, yeah, he'll definitely... I don't think so, man.
robby starbuck
You tell me if I'm wrong about this.
I do feel like if you were in a similar situation, which I don't think you would be in in the first place because I don't think you want to be owned by anybody, but if you were in that situation, you would absolutely not stand for it.
tim pool
Like if, so in this respect, I have a different strategy on stuff like this.
It would be an insane lie for me to say that if YouTube ever came to me with censorship demands, I would refuse.
Well, of course not.
Of course there's been several circumstances where I've been like, I can't say a certain name on the show, so nobody say it, right?
So we set up TimCast.com to make sure that we could have our own space that was isolated and protected, that was fortified.
Joe's in that space.
He's literally in his fortified space.
He's got a secure contract.
And if he's willing to withhold shows with a secure contract, now that I'm like, I mean, in that circumstance, I wouldn't do it.
And I gotta say, there are some things I can't talk about because we do work with other companies, but we've actually had people come to us and try and cancel us with things we're doing on the website, and we've basically given them the middle finger.
And we play a similar game to what Daily Wire did.
When Harry's pulled out and denounced them, they were like, we are gonna put everything that we had to promoting you, to denouncing you, to rivaling you, to challenging you.
So, I'll put it this way, on YouTube, There's a different story here.
Joe, I think he mentioned this, but I could be, maybe I'm misremembering.
It's been a while.
You know, he mentioned that like YouTube, there's censorship.
You know, on Spotify, he's going to be free.
It's a network deal.
And already we're seeing there's still censorship.
I do think it's fair to say that if he stayed on YouTube, they would have nuked him in two seconds for a variety of things.
robby starbuck
Agreed.
Yes.
tim pool
So, you know, what do we do?
Well, we here at Timcast, we want to keep the YouTube show going.
We want to maintain as much reach as possible for the maximum good we can do.
But we always, we always promote the website.
We have journalists on the website, and we want to make sure we're leveraging the access to this, you know, to YouTube's network to promote a space where we can have whatever conversation we want to have.
robby starbuck
If Rogan watches, he should think about that, those couple words you used, maximum good.
What is the maximum good he could do?
Because he has a very successful career.
You know, we actually used to live in the same area when we were both in Calabasas.
And, you know, he's incredibly successful.
At this point, what's the maximum good you can do?
And it would be build your own.
Build it and they will come.
I think you could have more people and it'll have some longevity.
You know, you can bring in other people and then allow a space where people can be free.
tim pool
You know, look, uh, when we started expanding timcasts.com, when we started expanding, when I started expanding from just my YouTube show, which was me sitting in a room with a, with a GoPro pointing at my face.
And now we're in this like six figure studio.
I was not rich.
I, I, I was like taking all of the money that I was making and like spending like crazy to like build and grow and expand.
Joe was rich before the podcast and was rich during the podcast, but it just goes to show there's different kinds of people.
And I'll stress this again.
I mean, the amount of good the dude has done.
For one thing, the fact that I'm even here and the success I've had is due partly to Joe helping me out.
I should say, Joe expressed to me, he was like, nah, look man, you came on my show, you helped make those episodes big.
And I'm like, yeah, but look, he didn't have to have me on.
He really, really helped out everything we're doing.
That's undeniable.
And so I think he has helped create a whole lot through his sphere of influence.
I just get frustrated sometimes when I see people of massive means not being like, yo, if you've got $10 million, 10, You could be like, I'm gonna take a million bucks and I'm gonna start something.
robby starbuck
Seed something.
tim pool
Seed something.
I think it's fair to point out it's very difficult to launch a podcasting platform.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I think Joe could have done it.
robby starbuck
He could, 100%.
No doubt he could.
We could fund it.
No doubt he could.
And it would be massively successful.
ian crossland
It really comes down to mental capital.
I think a lot about this lately, because we talk sometimes, like, if you had $100 million, why don't you do something with it?
Why don't you create a company?
Because it requires your time and your energy.
Otherwise, unless you're going to do like, we were kind of chatting about this before the show, you're either throwing your money at a group of people that you're just going to trust and hope that it works out.
But at that point, Rogan's not even involved anymore.
I don't want to see him throw money down a drain.
So, like, does he have the time and the energy and the desire to run a company?
Because that is a lot of work, a lot of listening, hours and hours.
Yep.
Many, many days.
You know, every day you don't work is basically the company's going to fall apart that you're not there.
unidentified
So, yeah.
robby starbuck
I think there's enough people who believe in him, though, in the message and, you know, what he's doing where you could build out a team where that wouldn't even be necessary.
I do think that that's the case.
You know, even if you look in that more corporate world of entertainment, there's people dying to get out of these places if they were given an opportunity to go run with something that could be really, you know, an open forum for freedom and for people to do podcasts and similarly sort of just have no rules.
unidentified
It's hard.
tim pool
You know, I'll say that.
It is not easy, everything we're doing.
You get to the point where people really need to understand this about companies.
Once you reach like 50 employees, I say like because it varies from state but federally, a whole bunch of crazy restrictions and regulations kick in.
All of a sudden now you're dealing with infiltrators.
I'd love to just, you know, hire everybody, but what happens if you hire Antifa?
robby starbuck
Yep.
tim pool
What happens if Joe's like, I'm gonna launch my own thing and then you get one person who's like, I only need six months and then I can plant that seed and nuke everything from, it's difficult.
robby starbuck
Yep.
tim pool
And you'll get people who will do it.
You'll get people who act like your best friend and their only interest is just extracting as much as they can from the system and watching it burn down.
And then they'll spend all their time just complaining about you and talking about how you were a bad person if you did everything for them.
It's nightmarish.
robby starbuck
It's the same thing with campaigns, by the way.
Political campaigns, same thing.
I mean, you get the same deal with political infiltrators wanting to get in, things like that, so you have to keep a very tight-knit group.
tim pool
Man, it's a bummer.
I want to just kind of make sure I stress the point.
Joe's not obligated to do anything, and at this point, he's done so much good, the dude could turn his show into a cooking show, and I'd be like, he had a great run, man.
robby starbuck
Yeah, no, absolutely true.
But this is the thing about great people, is you expect and want greatness all the time, and you push them to be the best version of what you think they can be.
And that's a healthy thing.
That's what a real friend does, too.
A real friend doesn't just clap for you and pretend you're always doing good.
A real friend's gonna go, you need to go and try to level up.
And I think that's, you know, at the core of anybody sort of saying this that appreciates him is we're saying, level up, man.
You have it in you.
You can level up and you can take a stand that is going to be powerful.
tim pool
I also wonder just, you know, look, obviously we're not afraid of offending leftists.
I just don't care.
And I wonder if Joe's mentality is more so, there are people who are on the left who just don't know, and you've gotta be able to reach them somehow.
I can respect that.
robby starbuck
Yeah, I can respect that.
tim pool
I'm not saying that's exactly what he's doing, but I certainly respect varying degrees of trying to reach people, because I'm at the point where it's like, look, we're gonna talk about the truth.
We're typically respectful, and the members only stuff at TimCast.com.
I was swearing a lot yesterday.
Yeah, I was swearing at Ron Perlman.
Because that dude is irredeemable.
robby starbuck
He's crazy.
Crazy.
ian crossland
I actually tried to watch that Twitter video he made, and I had to shut it off twice out of fear.
Like, he scares me because I've seen him in so many movies.
robby starbuck
I mean, you can kind of almost see a mugshot in it, you know?
If you just, if you look hard enough, you can see his future mugshot, because something's gonna, something's gonna crack the guy.
ian crossland
It's like one eye was like down.
tim pool
Why does he do that thing where he like, he smashes his chin?
You know what I mean?
robby starbuck
I don't know.
tim pool
Instead of filming a video and being like, hey, All of these photos and videos are of him pointing down and- It's so weird!
Mashing his face so he looks crazy and like, Donny boy!
robby starbuck
Especially because like as a director, you know, actors like him have been blocked out so many times where they know the blocking, they know how they look in front of a camera, like he's camera aware, he knows what is going on and he does that intentionally, okay?
tim pool
You know the greatest thing ever would be is if like Ron Perlman comes out in like a few months, And then he has a whole collection of all of the videos and photos he's posted.
And then he just tells everybody, he's like, I hope I made you laugh.
Cause it was the funniest thing ever.
I gotta be honest, like watching that out out of the context of politics is one of the funniest things ever.
He's a meme where people like show a picture of his face all smashed and like crazy things.
robby starbuck
I mean, and it's also like, it's just an extension of the craziness of the left right now where literally all of them have to make sure they go.
Gay.
How to call the police. This person just said the word again. This is illegal now.
But the Santa signed the bill.
tim pool
It's like the bill doesn't stop it from happening anyway.
robby starbuck
Ridiculous.
tim pool
Let's talk about something else that's funny. We'll have a good laugh today.
We have this tweet from Siraj Hashmi.
CNN Plus.
It's a collection of images posted by Suresh.
CNN Plus tweets.
Today a historic day for us as we launch CNN Plus, our streaming platform that brings you the stories of our world anytime you want.
What was a recent newsworthy first for you?
Now, a quick question.
Did CNN get their own emoji on Twitter?
robby starbuck
Oh, they paid for that.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
Now, here we go.
Thank you, Siraj, for this.
The very next day.
Breaking!
CNN Plus employees bracing for layoffs, possibly as soon as May amid projections of lackluster sales of new streaming channel.
CNN employees say new streaming channel could be merged into larger Discovery Plus as early as May unless subscriptions pick up.
robby starbuck
Shocker.
tim pool
Pick up 1.30, I don't know.
Check this out, check this out, though.
From Sagar and Jetty.
CNN Plus already showing no confidence in their product.
Throwing away subs at discount rates to fake their initial sign-up numbers.
Shows how worthless the product is.
Book clubs and parenting advice from personalities you can already get for free on CNN.
Garbage.
CNN.
robby starbuck
Tell us how you really feel.
tim pool
On day one of CNN's new service, we're offering 50% off for life.
Now look, I understand if, you know, someone does like a promo read and the advertiser says, we'll do a discount for your audience because we're trying to attract new people to come and sign up.
This is day one of CNN.
ian crossland
Not a good sign.
robby starbuck
No confidence.
Well, this is what's really funny, okay?
Is I want you to just imagine something.
There was a table like this one that we're at right now and there were a bunch of people around it and they all thought it would be a really good idea and they thought that people would pay for access to more Brian Stelter and more... I can't even say what that like... and more Don Lemon, okay?
These people are crazy.
There's no other way to put it.
They are absolutely off their rocker insane.
Nobody wants to pay for this.
And anybody who does, that's going to be a list that you want in the future because they belong in a mental institution.
tim pool
Okay.
I genuinely wonder how many people that signed up for their service though.
So I'm wondering if they'll release those numbers or if they have, I don't know.
robby starbuck
Oh, no way.
tim pool
If it's really low, they probably won't do it.
I just want to point out to all of our members at timcast.com.
You get a variety of shows.
Mostly, you'll get Monday through Thursday, our members-only show.
It's a half an hour long or so, sometimes longer, because we'll have people talking about crazy stuff and we go for a long time.
And we also have the Green Room show, which is Fridays.
It's in the Green Room, hanging out with these personalities.
We had, you know, Jeremy Boring.
We also have conspiracy shows and stuff that are more seasonal.
We don't produce nearly as much as CNN does.
But people actually want to watch you.
robby starbuck
That's the difference.
tim pool
It's true, but the point I'm making is it's $10 for TimCast.com because that's about what we need to charge to, for one, produce all these shows and continue to expand.
Maybe once you have substantially more subscribers, you lower the price.
It can go down the more people who sign up.
CNN lowered the price before anybody even had a chance to sign up.
But one member at TimCast.com is creating the cultural influence of three members of CNN plus.
unidentified
100%.
tim pool
So that's what I think is significant here.
And they're struggling and they're going to be laying people off.
And you know what?
Good riddance to a bad problem.
robby starbuck
Well, I think I told Lydia this.
You know, so I've been on, you know, pretty much every big show.
I've been on Tucker and all these other places.
The one show that I've been on where I've had more people come up to me than anything is actually this one.
That seems crazy to me.
It is weird, and I'd never expected it.
You know, I knew we'd get some, you know, because you always get some from different shows.
I always thought Tucker would be the biggest, you know, because he has just a really rabid audience.
And I've been on there a lot, so I would especially think that it would be from there.
But there's so many people who just randomly come up to me and are like, hey, I saw you on Tim Pool.
He is amazing.
The show's amazing.
I love Lydia.
And then they leave you out.
ian crossland
It's the form, it's long form.
Because you can sit here and people get to know you.
robby starbuck
I think that actually might be what it is, is the recognition long term.
If you sit with somebody for an hour, you remember them.
If you really get into a conversation with them.
But if you sit with them for a four minute hit on Tucker or something like that, if you're interested, maybe you remember.
If you're not, then it's just another talking head on TV.
tim pool
Truth be told, it's one of the reasons why I stopped going on Fox.
You know, they started hitting me up more and more, and then after a certain point I was just like, why?
I mean, no offense.
I'm not trying to drag them, because the guys who were trying to book me were nice, but it's just like, I honestly have no incentive to do a three minute spot on your show.
ian crossland
The first 20, 30 years of my life was in the entertainment industry as an actor for age 15 to 30.
I was like, I'm going to get to the Oscars one day and I'm going to, I'm going to have my moment of three minutes where I get to tell the world the right info that I need to deliver.
And then YouTube appeared and all of a sudden it was like every day is an Oscar speech.
This completely, the industry is completely shifted.
Yeah, just totally.
And this is brings me back to the CNN, whoever's running this business.
That's amazing!
Either they put, they gambled on this.
They gambled the livelihoods of their employees on this.
robby starbuck
And on extra Chris Wallace content.
Okay.
Chris Wallace.
tim pool
But think about being Chris Wallace.
robby starbuck
Yep.
tim pool
And being so inept that you were like, going to CNN plus is a good idea.
robby starbuck
Well, this is actually, you know, I feel almost a little bad for him
because this is one of those generational things.
Like, at his age, some, you know, younger executive comes and says, we're going to do this cool new streaming platform.
And, you know, he's like, well, that's the new thing.
I mean, I guess people are doing streaming, so sure.
And has no concept of the fact that nobody's going to pay for this from CNN Plus.
tim pool
Nobody cares.
They made him denounce Fox.
That's the problem.
He's spineless losers.
Totally spineless.
unidentified
He's like, you know, I can tolerate opinion, but when you're calling for insurrection.
robby starbuck
But when you have certain opinions, then I can't tolerate it anymore.
tim pool
So one of the responses to Siraj was about CNN Plus, that sucks.
Are we celebrating this?
People are losing jobs.
Yes, we are.
Because the people who would work at CNN, the people that were exposed by Project Veritas, the ones who were saying, we don't do news anymore.
robby starbuck
They want to destroy your life.
tim pool
These are people who are like, don't blame me.
I know CNN's bad, but I'll certainly take a pitchfork and chase you out of town if they tell me to.
Nah, I'm sorry, dude.
When we talk about cops, when we talk about policing, and I say, I'm not going to defend cops when they're shutting down mom and pop shops over COVID.
The police departments don't deserve my support if they're going to arrest some lady over, you know, opening her salon or a guy for opening his gym.
You think I'm going to sit here and stand for the people at CNN who are either willfully or ignorantly supporting that crooked, corrupt BS?
No way, dude, they should all be fired.
robby starbuck
Yeah, they, you know, I have, No sympathy, no empathy for that crowd.
They get fired.
I'm going to celebrate every single time.
On a side note, in our area down in Tennessee, our officers did not allow any of that COVID stuff to happen, period.
And that is the reason why you're seeing this massive exodus out of blue states and out of areas where the police do allow this stuff.
In our areas, the police protected the people, which is what they're supposed to do, you know, and they protected our rights.
tim pool
I think that's an important distinction too because I've been like, you know, I've said, you know, abolish the police.
Fine.
You know, Democrats, if they want it, they can get, they can take whatever they want.
I'll call their bluff.
And with the cops, we're shutting down people over COVID, you know what, fine, get rid of them.
But I should issue a clarification.
What we're really talking about is the problem.
The problematic police are in big cities.
That are run by Democrats and appointed by Democrats.
robby starbuck
And they're usually run by Democrats at the actual station, too.
The chief of police is a politician, 100%.
And they're Democrats.
And they're not just slightly Democrats, these are far-left radicals in a lot of these places.
tim pool
And blue state troopers.
robby starbuck
100%.
I mean, you see some of them reporting on their own officers for just going and doing investigative work.
That's happened in a number of cases where they're running something down and they're like, no, you can't do that.
tim pool
We haven't had a whole lot of conversations about abolishing the South Dakota police who, you know, didn't go and harass people and shut them down.
In fact, South Dakota did a pretty good job.
And in Florida, they put up billboards.
I think there was one out here that said, you know, it was basically like, come be a cop in Florida.
So, you know, we're in Western Maryland, and we're in West Virginia, but over on the Maryland side, they're like, hey, if you don't want to be a cop here, because of what's going on, then come down to Florida.
Come on over.
So the issue really is, you know what?
It's not the police.
It's the politics.
Michael Malice would have some choice words there.
But, yeah, it's the politics.
robby starbuck
It is.
Well, no, I know, you know, the sheriffs, they really are making a difference in this country.
are the ones who go out there and say, I want you armed.
I want you to exercise your Second Amendment.
I want you to carry.
I want you to be a part of this service to the community to make sure we live in a safe place.
Where I live in Tennessee, you don't worry about violent crime.
You don't worry about any of these issues because, number one, people are worried you might be carrying, but number two, they know that our sheriffs don't put up with anything like that.
And beyond that, when the government comes in and intrudes, and this is the most important point, when the government oversteps, they don't say, my job is to serve the government.
They say, my job is to serve the people.
And that is the really important distinction.
That's when you go from it being, you know, police to being, you know, essentially state actors.
And that's where I'd have a problem.
The people who go in, they're saying, I'm going to go defend whatever Joe Biden's edict is.
Even if it's illegal.
That's not something I want any part in, but if you're going and you're doing what was intended, you can't replace that.
You know, we need more and more of that sort of, you know, outlook.
tim pool
Yeah, when CNN people, just to reiterate, lose their jobs, I'm not going to shed a tear over it.
robby starbuck
Nope.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think when it comes to jobs... I'll throw them a party.
A big hard-throwing party.
tim pool
Yeah, they can come.
robby starbuck
And it'll say, learn to code.
ian crossland
The Federal Reserve's huge on job creation programs.
They're all about the job economy, where you dig a hole, and then they're going to get that guy to come fill the hole back up, and then they'll pay that guy to dig it, and they'll pay you fake money and keep you paying taxes and owe interest.
So they make money off of your toiling around with these jobs.
At that point, shattering a worthless company is not necessarily losing, yeah, you're losing jobs, but it might actually benefit the society.
If you have a company that's doing bad things, you want those jobs to be gone.
tim pool
Bravo, sir.
A hard 20 right there from Ian.
CNN is damaging society.
They're not helping it.
So when they're like, we have to lay off these people.
I'm just like, um, if you hired somebody to go and riot with Antifa, I would appreciate it if they were laid off.
robby starbuck
Yeah.
tim pool
CNN is the mental equivalent of Antifa.
unidentified
100%.
tim pool
They're causing insane political damage.
They're the reason people like Ron Perlman smash their face into their chest and go, Donny boy!
unidentified
Don't say gay!
tim pool
Because the dude doesn't actually know what's going on.
robby starbuck
No clue.
tim pool
Because he watches CNN.
ian crossland
CNN's owned by Disney, right?
unidentified
Yep.
ian crossland
So it's Disney propaganda.
tim pool
Wait, are they really?
robby starbuck
No, no, no, no.
They're not owned by Disney, isn't it?
Yeah, they're not owned by Disney.
ian crossland
Oh, they're not owned by Disney?
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
Okay.
Yeah, CNN... AT&T, right?
No, okay, yeah.
CNN's operated by Warner Media.
It's ESPN that's owned by Disney.
I was getting that mixed up.
tim pool
ABC, all these other companies owned by Disney.
ian crossland
Operated by AT&T.
So it's Warner.
This is like the news arm of Warner, of that company.
robby starbuck
So they just got sold, I think.
They just got sold to Warner, right?
Because I know there was a recent sale.
ian crossland
As of 2020.
tim pool
Yeah, because I think AT&T owned them.
But AT&T is owned by Warner?
ian crossland
No, they're owned by Dish.
robby starbuck
Whoever sold it, they got out quick.
They got out at the right time.
ian crossland
And they're just gonna subsidize it?
You think Warner's just gonna subsidize this thing to death, basically, until it's completely annihilated?
tim pool
I was wondering about this, because CNN's ratings are so abysmal.
I'm just like, why would someone buy CNN?
robby starbuck
I don't get it.
tim pool
Brand power?
robby starbuck
I really don't.
ian crossland
I don't even want the brand anymore.
robby starbuck
The brand's toxic.
ian crossland
The brand's popular, though.
It is super popular with the normal crowd.
robby starbuck
Internationally, yes.
tim pool
That's the issue.
So what happens is CNN on YouTube, their YouTube ratings tripled from like 25 million a week to 80 million a week when the war happened.
For about three weeks, their viewership was triple.
Well, no, it's regular people who are like, hey, some big news thing happened.
I better search CNN for it.
robby starbuck
But it's why they're motivated to make stories happen.
They go in that direction because they love war.
tim pool
Right.
robby starbuck
It helps the ratings.
Advertisers pay more.
You know, good things happen in their view.
ian crossland
Wow.
I mean, that's very much like a fireman getting paid to put out fires and then end up lighting their own fires to get paid.
I mean, there should not be an incentive to make money for a news organization on bad news.
tim pool
Did you see Ryan Long and Danny Paulischuk's bit about the Antifa window repair?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
They were like, they simultaneously go out with Antifa riding and smashing windows, but then also offer our window repair service.
unidentified
Yes.
robby starbuck
Yes.
tim pool
So, you know, that's kind of how it works.
robby starbuck
A little bit like that.
Exactly.
Well, I mean, they're cheerleading at this point.
Some of the stuff, you know, we were listening in the car and I think they were replaying.
It was either CNN or MSNBC in the car.
And these people were totally ludicrously pushing for war.
You know, you couldn't be more sort of Thank you for using the word profane.
I've been thinking about how you don't have to use swear words to be profane.
People are going to have to die for this, you know, but on their side of things, they're like, we want to keep this
going for ratings.
ian crossland
Thank you for using the word profane. I've been thinking about how about how you don't have to use swear words to be
profane.
Certain behaviors and actions are profane.
robby starbuck
Oh, they're more profane than curse words.
You know, they really are.
If you're sitting there and you're advocating to send a bunch of young men and women to die in some foreign country that they have no business in, that's profane.
That's more profane than somebody using the F word or whatever it is.
That is profane.
Because you're divorced from the reality of war and loss and pain that normal people feel.
And if you're divorced from that, you're divorced from everything that matters.
tim pool
Let me pull up this story.
We'll start getting into more hard politics.
This is from the Daily Mail.
Two Russian fighter jets that violated Swedish airspace earlier this month were equipped with nukes with the aim of scaring Stockholm.
You know, it's certainly a story you could lead with for a show, like, oh, Russia deployed nukes.
At this point, I am desensitized to these stories.
And we talked about it yesterday.
Vladimir Putin reportedly, you know, travels to nuclear bunker.
And as we're getting into it, I'm just like, yo, I am desensitized to this.
They have fear mongered and screamed and banged on things to the point where I'm like, whatever dude, I got a bucket full of beans.
I'm not going to cry and complain about it.
And what do we even say when every day they're trying to push some, some, you know, Ukraine war, Joe Biden, like.
robby starbuck
Well you know what's sad is the minute I saw that I didn't believe it because you know I'm just kind of at that point where I'm numb to it and I feel like we've been told so many lies by the same people for so long and every time you bite and believe them you end up really regretting it.
I mean... And so my first question is what's the intelligence on that?
Who said that this is the fact?
Yeah.
ian crossland
Who knows what their aim was?
I mean, you'd have to have Russian intelligence confirming that that was their aim.
robby starbuck
Yeah, or have some sort of visual confirmation.
I didn't read the story, so I don't know what they're saying is backing up this claim, but... They're just reporting it.
tim pool
It's them.
It's their intelligence.
robby starbuck
Yeah, and I have no respect for it at this point.
You know, there's nothing I can say except for that.
You know, you can't even assume it's true.
tim pool
It has emerged.
robby starbuck
It has emerged.
Emerged from where?
Is this like the Loch Ness Monster?
ian crossland
Is this company Daily Mail like a shock content?
Because I see interesting stuff come out of Daily Mail.
It's sort of a mix.
Joe Roten threatens and it's like, well, I mean, he was warning.
I thought it was more of a warning, but they, they phrased this as a threat.
robby starbuck
They're a little bombastic.
Yeah.
ian crossland
Okay.
robby starbuck
That's a little bombastic, but there's real, there's real stuff there.
Yeah.
tim pool
Sometimes I think they don't go far enough in how they describe things.
Sometimes I think they frame it wrong.
Sometimes I think they go too far.
robby starbuck
Yeah.
tim pool
But you know, it is what it is.
ian crossland
Is NewsGuard giving them a hundred?
tim pool
No, not a hundred.
I mean, maybe, actually.
robby starbuck
Well, see, that's the thing that I try to teach my own kids about consuming media and news in general, is that they need to do what Tim just did.
You know, like, critically think about what each one of these places you're reading from actually does.
What do they do?
What are the mistakes they make?
So that when you're consuming the information, you can do so in a manner where you can kind of parse out, This might actually not be wholly accurate, but they're pretty good with this stuff, so that's probably true.
And then go to somewhere else that is good with the stuff they're not good with, and you can kind of fuse it together for a real understanding of what you're probably getting.
tim pool
Let's be real though, let's be real.
If right now I got a CNN alert on my phone, or a video from CNN went on all the TVs or wherever, And it was Brian Stelter himself saying, ladies and gentlemen, a nuclear missile was fired from Russia and is currently heading towards the United States.
I believe it.
If CNN came out on TV and Brian Sutter said an ICBM has been fired and it's being tracked and headed towards the U.S., I would believe it.
Well, I should put it this way.
I would act as though it were true, is a better way to put it.
robby starbuck
I don't know.
You know, if that potato went on TV and said my birthday was February 27th, I probably wouldn't believe it, even though it is my birthday.
tim pool
But that's different.
Like, we're talking about a missile headed towards the U.S.
robby starbuck
Maybe Jake Tapper, I'd believe it.
If it was Jake Tapper, maybe I'd believe it.
I feel like he wouldn't lie about that.
He'd lie about a lot of other stuff, but maybe not that.
ian crossland
I like that you phrased it as you would act as though it were true, not necessarily believe it face to face, but take evasive action.
If someone's gonna go on national TV and make that claim, that's a big enough claim for me personally to take seriously, regardless of where it comes from.
robby starbuck
Probably wise, probably wise in the case of a nuke, I'll give you that.
But if he said it about a virus, I'd be like, no, I'm not biting on that.
ian crossland
Any non-immediate thing, I'm not going to make a snap, I'm not going to jump to activity because of what CNN just told me.
tim pool
Yeah, I mean, if Brian Stelter, you know, posted a Twitter video and he said, intelligence is reporting an ICBM headed towards the East Coast, I'd be out the door and I'd be like, let's go to our secure location and act as though it's true.
And then if he comes out later and he's like, whoopsie, I was watching War Games, or what is that movie?
ian crossland
Yeah, Matthew Broderick, War Games.
robby starbuck
Talk about burying the lead.
I'm pretty sure you just confirmed you have a nuclear bunker.
tim pool
Well, I didn't say nuclear bunker, but we have a secure location.
robby starbuck
I mean, you kind of inferred, possibly, or implied nuclear bunker.
tim pool
But we have a bunker.
I'm not entirely sure I can withstand a nuclear blast.
ian crossland
Would you guys ever move into one of those bunkers where they launch space shuttles out of and stuff?
tim pool
You mean the ICBM silos?
robby starbuck
Move into it just for fun?
ian crossland
Yeah, an old silo.
Yeah, like live there.
robby starbuck
No, I have a beautiful farm, so I'd stay there.
I'm staying on the farm.
ian crossland
What about under your farm?
robby starbuck
In a nuclear war?
Oh, absolutely.
I could survive anywhere if I had my wife, my kids, and my dogs.
I'm happy.
It doesn't matter where I am.
tim pool
You can buy nuclear ICBM silos, missile silos.
They're not necessarily nuclear silos.
And there's like 16 floors.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's what I was thinking of.
tim pool
But if you set up the farm up top, you go down and you have this big cylindrical mansion.
robby starbuck
I could live with that.
ian crossland
I could live with that.
It looks really cool, but I think that's more fantasy.
When you get there, it's all grungy and mold and smell is numb.
robby starbuck
It sounds like a great idea until you smell it, right?
That's probably it.
tim pool
Until you can't see the sun.
ian crossland
I know.
tim pool
And you get vitamin D deficiencies and depressed all the time.
ian crossland
Welcome to my world, my gosh.
tim pool
Man, these dystopian sci-fi movies where people are in this underground room with TV screens for windows.
And we're there, basically.
robby starbuck
Well, it's amazing how many people have vitamin D deficiencies.
I know that's totally off topic, but I was just talking about that with somebody the other day.
It is incredible the number of people who don't get the right stuff that their body needs.
ian crossland
I was also like, if you could somehow get sunlight underground with mirrors.
robby starbuck
Yeah, then you're in business.
ian crossland
You lose fidelity on every time it bounces off the mirror, so you have to use sound to guide the light.
And you might be able to guide light down tunnels with sound, so you could have daylight underground.
With sound.
Sound waves can guide photons without interference as much as interference as they found with matter.
tim pool
It's got to be an immense amount of energy, I'd imagine, right?
ian crossland
Probably, I'm sure.
I don't know that much about it.
And I don't want to take away from your vitamin D talk, because that's super.
I've actually been taking a vitamin D supplement.
Yeah, me too.
I got it from the Infowars store lately.
Vitamin D and vitamin K, I think it is.
tim pool
From Jones himself.
ian crossland
Mr. Jones!
robby starbuck
Mine's for my doctor, but it's therapeutic because I feel like people need to really boost this stuff.
It gives you so much energy, makes you feel so healthy.
I'm not making a go talk to your medical person about it.
tim pool
If you're not getting out and getting enough sunlight, it's so good for you.
ian crossland
Oh my gosh, I was just in Washington State over the weekend and the sun was amazing.
It's kind of a desert, it's like a mountain desert.
Man, that sunlight, just non-stop.
I highly recommend if you haven't been on the subway.
tim pool
Vitamin D is underrated.
robby starbuck
Big time.
tim pool
Big time underrated.
You get sick.
I remember when I was younger, I'd ask people, like, how come you don't really see pets getting sick as often as people do?
And maybe it's not true for some people.
Maybe you get a dog that's sick all the time.
But I remember growing up, our dog was almost never sick with anything.
And it's like, well, maybe because the dog doesn't interact with other dogs and humans interact with other humans.
unidentified
That's a good reason for it.
robby starbuck
Well, dogs do weird stuff, too.
Like, sometimes you'll find them, like, nibbling on a rock or something like that.
It's because they actually can kind of search out what they need and they'll get the mineral somehow.
They're going to try to find it.
And their body just knows, you know?
And I think that's why you see that, you know?
They're funny little furry creatures.
They're smart.
tim pool
They can smell cancer.
They can smell strokes.
robby starbuck
Think about how incredible that is.
Dogs can sniff out cancer.
tim pool
That's crazy.
unidentified
Wow.
robby starbuck
It's incredible.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tim pool
I wonder what that is.
Or smelling a stroke before it happens.
robby starbuck
Yep.
Or a seizure.
tim pool
Incredible.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah.
These videos were like, someone's about to seize their epileptic.
robby starbuck
And they catch them.
tim pool
Yeah, the dog will jump on them and then lay down and then they'll be like, uh-oh.
And then they'll start, oh, it's the dog causing the seizure.
robby starbuck
Oh.
Well, that's a new conspiracy.
I haven't heard that one.
ian crossland
It's the word God spelled backwards.
You think that's on purpose?
robby starbuck
Well, they're God's gift to us, so maybe that's his way of letting us know, this is my gift to you, because there's nothing better than dogs.
We've got Great Danes, and they're the best animals.
Anybody who's ever been confused about what type of dog to get, get a Great Dane.
They're the best, even in an apartment.
They don't love exercise as much as people would think.
They're couch potatoes.
But they will give you so much love.
ian crossland
I have kind of a, I don't have a hate relationship, not a love-hate, that's a little extreme.
I got bit by a dog when I was a baby, like six.
I went, it was playing with, it was eating and I got close, too close to it and it jumped up and bit my face and ripped off.
I had to get stitches and like, it was real traumatic.
So I've kind of had like a distrust of dogs in general.
Like I don't, I think they're psychopaths.
robby starbuck
That was in fact actually a Democrat in a dog suit.
ian crossland
Turned out they were just dogs.
Yeah.
robby starbuck
No, it's a Democrat in a dog suit, so you're distrusting the wrong person.
tim pool
It was a young Adam Schiff.
robby starbuck
It was a young Adam Schiff.
tim pool
That's a joke, by the way, for all his lawyers.
ian crossland
Once you learn the dog's language, and you know, don't get your face next to it while it's eating, if you know some basic dog things, I think they're phenomenal.
robby starbuck
Oh, they're fantastic.
Our dogs, I was telling Lydia earlier, actually, I trust my dogs more than humans.
You know, with my kids, there's certain people where I was like, if you had to leave them with the Great Daner, that person, who would you leave them with?
And I'm like, Probably a great day most of the time.
You know, they do the job a little bit better.
tim pool
Kind of crazy how we went from two Russian fighter jets with nukes to dogs and family.
robby starbuck
Well, somehow we went to vitamin D and then dogs and living underground nuclear war.
ian crossland
Is that what this is?
robby starbuck
Because you're going to need a dog babysitter in nuclear war.
If you're in a bunker, just so you can get five minutes.
ian crossland
Also vitamin D supplements.
robby starbuck
Yes.
unidentified
Yes.
robby starbuck
You're definitely going to need those.
We really wrapped that up.
ian crossland
I think this is all no.
Okay.
Five fear propaganda.
All the, all the war junk I've heard that is, is Ukraine actually going to see Donbass in the Eastern region?
tim pool
That's what they're saying.
robby starbuck
I think they have to for this to end.
You know, I think that's where it's headed.
ian crossland
Was it that Russia's ceding those back to Ukraine?
robby starbuck
No, no, no, definitely not.
No, they're not going to cede anything.
tim pool
The media keeps reporting how Russia's losing, but then how Zelensky's saying, OK, we're going to make concessions and give you what you want.
robby starbuck
I do think that's where we're headed.
I think probably two, three weeks they'll have a final deal.
That's just my, you know, not based on any intelligence or anything else, just my gut feeling on this in that situation there.
I think they're going to have to give that area up because in reality, well, Russia wants a buffer and, you know, they're not going to stop making everybody's lives hell until they get that buffer.
And I think that with the administration we have, they know we're toothless.
We're not going to do anything.
You know, they're just going to go and take what they want.
tim pool
Let's get into some more hard politics, though.
So you're running for office, Robbie.
Where are you running for office, and for what office are you running?
robby starbuck
Tennessee, in the 5th Congressional District.
This almost looks like a story that might be in my race.
tim pool
So, the big story around you is that you were endorsed by Trump, right?
robby starbuck
No, no.
tim pool
He endorsed the other one.
robby starbuck
He endorsed the other one, yeah, and people got very angry about it.
ian crossland
Wrong.
robby starbuck
Wrong.
Very wrong.
Love the guy, but I think he actually did not Realize that this was the race I was in when he made an endorsement.
tim pool
The big story was that it appears it's the Republicans, right?
They're trying to stop you from being able to run for office?
robby starbuck
So they're trying to stop Morgan and initially were trying to stop me too, but they didn't realize how long I had lived in the state.
So this bill that they passed actually doesn't apply to me because I've been a resident of Tennessee over three years.
By the time of the election, which is what the amended law is.
tim pool
So break this down for us.
You're running for office.
How does it happen that they're trying to block you from being able to run for office?
And you're like a Trump supporter, like a populist.
robby starbuck
Well, I think that's the problem, right?
Is that I don't answer to them.
I have no favors that I owe anybody.
And that's the most dangerous thing in politics is somebody running who doesn't owe anybody favors.
Um, you know, so there's a lot of sort of people who've been there for a long time in the political establishment who are very threatened by this guy showing up out of nowhere, crushing it in polls, having hundreds to thousands of people at every event, and they're just like, what the heck is going on here?
We may have a problem on our hands because If he's able to do that, then he could turn those people out in races that we're in, you know?
And I think that's where the mental calculus goes.
But then, you know, Morgan came out too, and Trump endorsed her, and I think they kind of felt a similar way with her, but a little different.
It wasn't so much the populist fear, but more so the fear of like, hey, you're not from here, you know?
This should be for somebody from here, you know?
And I think it's a little wrong-headed, you know, I understand the instincts some of them have because you want somebody to represent the district who actually has the state's interests in mind and who understands the people and I agree with that.
But when you look at what they did here, it's just the same sort of disgusting, you know, sneaky politics that people hate where You know, you play by the rules, and if you're winning, then we change the rules.
It's like Wall Street bets, you know?
Like, if you're winning, suddenly it's like, no, no, no, the rules need to change, and now you need to win by these rules.
ian crossland
And what they changed is, you were saying before, that they have a law that says you have to have lived in the state for three years?
robby starbuck
Three years until Election Day.
And so for the people who don't know the difference between the races and stuff, because it is a little confusing, In house rep races, you can have those qualifications because it's a state office, the state gets to set the qualifications.
For federal office though, for U.S.
Congress, which is what I'm running for, or for Senate, on the Senate side or House side of Congress, you cannot do that as a state.
At least constitutionally, there's a qualifications clause, it's very clear you just have to be 25 years old, and there's nothing about you needing to be a resident of the state for X amount of years.
You just need to be a U.S.
citizen.
And so that's where I think they got it wrong with this.
I do think it's a matter of, does somebody want to challenge it in court or not?
And I don't know if they'll want to.
I don't need to because it doesn't affect me.
But I think some people have a mindset where they say states should get to decide this sort of thing.
And if they have that mindset, maybe they walk away from the race, you know, and say, all right, I'll try to do something else.
But you know, if they were doing it to me and it did affect me, I would fight like hell.
tim pool
I do see the purpose of a bill.
You don't want some random person, you know, maybe somebody who was, I don't know, a governor of Massachusetts or something.
robby starbuck
Or like a spokesperson for some agency.
tim pool
Or, you know, like a former governor flying to another state and then running for Senate or something like that.
You know what I mean?
You don't live here.
You don't really represent us.
But I suppose the response I typically get is people can vote for whoever they want.
robby starbuck
Exactly.
Well, this is what my argument is, and it's kind of counterintuitive because, you know, I'm almost shooting myself in the foot.
I maybe shouldn't say this, but even though it doesn't affect me, I have a principal problem with this.
Like, just if I'm being consistent with my values, my morals, I think this is wrong.
If we care about election integrity, we should care about people deciding elections.
I don't want to boot somebody from a race against me and beat them by proxy because they got kicked out.
I want to beat them on election day with people voting for me more often than they vote for them.
You know, and that's how it should be in our elections.
You should be able to count on that, that you're going to be able to get the real choices.
tim pool
But there's so much dirty, dirty.
robby starbuck
There is.
It's a dirty, dirty business.
And that's, I talked about this with a couple of members actually this week, and there's no business like this where you're expected to stab your friends in the back on a constant basis.
tim pool
That's so bad.
Why would you want to be in Congress?
robby starbuck
Well, so for me, it's one of those things where I'm looking at it from a state of not what is good for me, but a state of function of what's good for my kids.
And I realized that if we continue this same pattern of having these career politicians, same lawyers from same schools, you know, same sort of sets of values, and we keep sending them there, We're living the definition of insanity.
This is just the same thing over and over again.
And have we not learned the lesson?
So I said, you know what?
I have nothing to lose.
We're going to go try and we're going to run a campaign that is everything that I believe in and I'm not going to owe anybody anything.
And it's sort of like, for me, I look back and I think back to when I first got super engaged in politics and it was Ron Paul.
And I say, what would have happened to our country had Ron Paul become president?
tim pool
I'm just imagining everyone holding hands and singing under a rainbow.
Everyone's pockets bursting with cash.
robby starbuck
And guns.
tim pool
Gold.
robby starbuck
Guns and gold.
Guns and gold.
ian crossland
We'd probably be a crypto-economy right now.
robby starbuck
No, we'd be a gold- No wars.
Yeah, flourishing.
No Fed.
The Fed would have been destroyed.
But seriously, if you think about it.
tim pool
We'd be so wealthy and advanced, Ron Paul would be a cyborg by now.
robby starbuck
He would, he'd be a cyborg, he'd be, you know, he would have bought CNN and turned it into something wonderful.
Be like the Great Dane Channel or something.
ian crossland
They would have asked him to run a third time, but he would have refused and stepped down.
robby starbuck
Yeah, he would have had to have refused, yes.
tim pool
I have to be honest though, obviously it wouldn't be a utopia, but I do think it would be a little bit similar to Donald Trump.
robby starbuck
Oh yeah.
No, I think so.
Absolutely.
And the media would have treated him the way they treated Trump.
ian crossland
100%.
tim pool
Crazy old man.
robby starbuck
He's crazy.
He's totally unhinged, you know, but the people would have loved him, you know.
And what was really impressive about Ron Paul was his connection with young people and people who did not traditionally fit into the Republican mold, you know, of what the media wanted you to believe a Republican was.
And I also felt like that was another important reason for me to run was I was like, you know, I'm tired of people framing us as this, you know, This tiny box, and we all have to fit inside this cleanly, and if we don't, then there's just something wrong with it, you know?
Because it's almost like if you met somebody who looked like me, you would have to expect they're definitely not a Republican.
And I think that that's something that needs to change, because the funny part of it is, is like, I'm more conservative than your, you know, average.
You could pull anybody out of the legislature, and I'm more conservative than them.
And they may look like they'd fit the part, but If you actually got down to policy and it was me versus that person making decisions, you're going to be much happier with the decision I make than the one they make.
tim pool
You remember the Ron Paul love revolution?
robby starbuck
Yes.
tim pool
It was revolution but then... Love flipped around.
Yeah, love was flipped around.
robby starbuck
So it's actually the... I've only done political ads twice in my life and the first one I ever did was for the Ron Paul campaign and it included that in it.
Ron Paul love revolution.
Yes, yes.
And we need more of that energy, you know?
Maybe not so much the love at this point, but that'll come later.
But we need the people to make some decisions here about what they want in the country.
tim pool
What I've always liked about Ron Paul is that back then, like 2008 and 2009 or whatever, I was more lefty.
But I was like, I like this guy because he comes out and he says a bunch of things I don't agree with.
And then he just says, you know, but I'm not going to ever have the government come and tell you what to do.
And I'm like, then we're good.
robby starbuck
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm like, I don't care what you believe.
Like you believe a bunch of things.
I don't agree with you on those policies, but then your policy is to leave me alone.
robby starbuck
Yes.
tim pool
All right.
Win-win.
robby starbuck
That's the greatest policy you can run with as a politician is I want to leave you alone.
You know, it really is.
I want to leave you to do what you want to do.
Within reason, obviously.
We're not going to let you go and share, you know, like child sexual abuse material or something like that.
But, you know, in general, you want to live your life.
tim pool
Well, that seems to be the Democrat motto these days.
unidentified
It does.
robby starbuck
It's that Democrats would like a world like that, you know, where they're able to allow everything.
Rumors.
tim pool
Crypto pedos and pedo adjacent.
robby starbuck
You know, we've got to get to a point where the people really are in control again.
And that's not going to happen unless people like me go ahead and take the leap and say, you know what, I'll go do this.
And I'm definitely not doing it for 30 years.
I think, honestly, those people who grow up and they're like, I want to be in Congress, they have mental problems.
OK, if we're being real with each other, they have mental problems.
They're sociopaths and total narcissists.
tim pool
Think about how many little girls today turn on the TV and they see Nancy Pelosi talking like that.
And they're like, I want to be that.
robby starbuck
Yep, they should probably be locked up if they think that when they see Nancy Pelosi.
I'm joking, of course.
unidentified
They're going to be like, His Majesty wants to arrest kids!
robby starbuck
They probably will.
But no, you know, I think that we've got to give people something to believe in again in terms of them being able to have the power again.
And if the wrong people keep getting into the positions of power in this country, we're never going to get there.
And our kids are going to grow up in a country that is incredibly Just inverse from what we want for our families.
You know, I mean like normal people want freedom.
They want to just be able to live a life where, you know, their kids get to go to a good school.
They have a decent job.
They get to go on a date every once in a while.
They get to take a vacation with their kids once a year.
Like people aren't asking for much and the government in turn turns around and slaps them all the time.
You know?
And I think that we've got to understand This is probably a good way to frame it.
I was asked recently by Seb Gorka.
He said, you know, you've been around all these places in your district.
What is the common theme?
And I could give a political answer, but there's no use in it.
The real answer is pain.
There's something about pain and grief and trauma that ignites something different in people.
And the pain I'm seeing from people and their experiences, it's not just about money.
It's not just about economic overturn or gas prices or any of these things.
It's about a lifetime in many cases, but decades at the very least of being lied to, being slapped at every turn by your government, and essentially feeling like you run through the same cycle over and over of abuse.
And they're tired.
They're sick of it.
tim pool
Well, we got some more abuse coming your way, everybody.
In today's segment about the apocalypse, MarketWatch.com says, Inflation has lessons for a very entitled generation, says BlackRock co-founder.
That's right.
One of the largest wealth management firms in the world, their president, has come out and said the entitled generation should... What does he say?
Put on their seatbelts.
To cope with scarcity inflation, saying we've never seen anything like this.
For the first time, this generation is going to go into a store and not be able to get what they want.
And we have a very entitled generation that has never had to sacrifice.
And he's not completely wrong, just I don't think anybody wants to hear from this guy.
robby starbuck
Wrong messenger.
And by the way, we did not plan that transition because that was a perfect transition.
It was a little stark, but it was perfect.
tim pool
Oh yeah, the abuse is coming.
robby starbuck
This is not the person that you want delivering this message.
This guy is just absolutely, I mean, they're pillagers.
They're professional pillagers.
That's what they do.
They're pillaging our communities and they're making life impossible for young people.
You want to know why young people are turning to socialism and communism?
It's because of BlackRock.
BlackRock is what is igniting that.
Because they can't see a future where they can own a home, where they can have kids, credibly, and be able to say, oh yeah, my kid's gonna have a good life.
tim pool
They can't see that.
unidentified
It's also Rob Capito.
tim pool
It's also the Democrats.
robby starbuck
It's also Democrats, yes.
tim pool
But because the Democrats' policies on, like, student loans and all of that.
Yep.
And what ends up happening is, you know, we want student loan forgiveness, wah!
And inflation hits, and everyone's like, no, I can't afford to buy a house, and so it's a combination of this, it's corporatocracy and corporate, you know, corporate You know, some people said corporate communism, which doesn't really make... There needs to be a new word for it.
ian crossland
Technocracy.
robby starbuck
So you're touching on the fact that this is something that I've noticed a lot.
It's hard for us to define what this is, you know, because it's sort of a fusion of a lot of things, and we need a new word because it's really a technocracy fused with corporatism, fused with left-wing fascism, you know?
unidentified
So weird.
robby starbuck
And it's like, it needs its own thing, its own lane.
Chaos.
Yeah, it's chaos, you know, essentially.
But, you know, I think that Until we stand up to these people, it's not going to end.
tim pool
Insanism.
ian crossland
Is technocracy when people are addictedly using technology that they don't know how to build?
robby starbuck
No, no.
tim pool
Technocracy is a rule through technology.
ian crossland
They're only ruling because the people don't have the ability to repair their stuff and they don't know how to build the stuff.
So it's like this class of builders, this class of industrialists are now, because they have control of the production, that's why it's a technocracy.
Otherwise it would be like a decentralized technological revolution.
robby starbuck
Well, they're almost an arm of the government, too, though, which is another concerning point, because if you look at the big tech companies, they're taking orders from the Democratic Party.
You look at every one of these tech companies, and I think, Tim, you've actually talked about this before.
You may not remember it because you talk so much about stuff, but you talked about how many of these big tech companies have former staffers of the Democrat senators and Democrat House members.
I mean, it's ludicrous.
It's literally every single one.
tim pool
Andy Stone from Facebook worked for the Democratic- Barbara Boxer, right?
It was the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.
robby starbuck
Yeah, I think he worked for Barbara Boxer, too.
tim pool
Well, yeah, there you go.
And this is a guy who actively suppressed the Hunter Biden news story.
robby starbuck
Yep.
tim pool
Or at least announced they were.
robby starbuck
Yep.
tim pool
So these people are evil.
robby starbuck
Yep, and look back at the 2020 election.
They actually had people from California's government going and emailing the big tech companies, sending them tweets that they wanted taken down.
Okay.
That is it.
You can't get more blatant than that.
The government getting involved in deleting speech, censoring speech.
ian crossland
Yeah, I used to, growing up, I was like, well, the Americans are the good guys.
So if we have American technocrats, well, they'll be, they'll do the right thing.
But then as I got older, I realized, no, power just, they always get corrupt.
I think power, you get insulated in your own environment.
People around you start telling you you're doing good.
You're doing the right thing.
You don't have to see the fallout from the choices you're making because you're hidden from it.
You're protected.
And then, uh, and then they make utilitarian decisions because what other choice do you have?
You gotta be either you make personal decisions, utilitarian.
More of these people in power is never the answer.
I mean, look at something like student loans.
at that level and you don't see the pain.
robby starbuck
More of these people in power is never the answer.
I mean, look at something like student loans.
When did we get an actual student loan problem?
ian crossland
When George Bush made it impossible to declare bankruptcy on your student loans.
robby starbuck
It's government getting involved, period.
Government getting involved, period, is the problem.
Government should have never been involved.
They shouldn't be in the loan business.
They don't know the loan business.
They're terrible at it.
You know, if you look at the actual numbers, they're terrible at it.
When there was actually a privatization of this and you were able to have a bank go to Jenny and say, hey Jenny, we just don't think it's a good move to give you $300,000 to get a gender studies degree.
That was a smart, sound business decision.
And it was honestly a sound decision and a great favor they were doing to Jenny, who wanted to go to gender studies school for $300,000, or major in it, you know?
When we got away from that and the government got involved, everything went downhill.
Or I should say uphill, and we're talking about the prices, you know?
But that's what happens when government gets involved.
It always goes poorly.
ian crossland
Like they have some value with like FDIC insurance and things like where the government will insure the loan to the company if it never gets paid back?
Is that, you think that's valuable?
robby starbuck
I mean, how rare has it been that it's actually been something that's been useful to normal people?
tim pool
I just think, people like Bill Gates.
They look around at... He probably watches too many videos online of just dumb people, or he goes to like Reddit's subreddit, Idiots in Cars, and he just sees all of this really awful, the worst of humanity.
ian crossland
And so then he has this view of just like, eh, it's all... You know he's been seeing the worst since the 80s, because he was the technocrat that was watching everyone's Windows activity without them realizing it all through the 80s and the 90s.
tim pool
Was he?
ian crossland
He's a robot.
He created I'm sure he was his company. That's what it's built on is it extracts data?
So he's been doing that since he built he built in the 80s Well, so they want a certain degree he has information on
tim pool
you know, how people use their products and services I wonder if you're just in general. I wonder
ian crossland
Zuckerberg to is a psychology of psychologists went to school for psychology. He's a psychologist. He's a robot.
He studied it Yeah
tim pool
There are just so many people that are wealthy that just have disdain for the working class and regular people as
ian crossland
stupid as a person The plebeians, this is like thousands of year old, and probably even before that the Romans had like an entire class of pretty much everybody.
tim pool
I'm just imagining.
ian crossland
The normies.
robby starbuck
We're living a story told many times through history, you know?
tim pool
The Republicans in your district were all sitting in their $50,000 a year club, you know, drinking tea or wine and smoking cigars.
unidentified
And there's just one big fat Republican who's like, I dare say, this Robbie Starbuck, who is trying to run, we can't allow the rabble in Congress.
And he's like, call up your congressman, your state representative, and get a bill passed.
robby starbuck
You forgot to mention my hair.
My hair was definitely a part of that conversation.
It had to be.
tim pool
Yeah, did you see your hair?
unidentified
It's like, ugh, it's slick.
And then the other guy's like, I'll comb them right away, sir.
robby starbuck
You got the accents wrong, but on content probably pretty close.
tim pool
Bad guys are always British for some reason.
I think those are British accents.
ian crossland
Ancient hatred in that one.
robby starbuck
See, Tennessee accents just sound too nice.
If you did that same thing in a Tennessee accent, it would sound like a really sweet thing they were doing, but no.
It's probably pretty similar.
Yeah, I mean, that's what happens with power.
When you have, you know, consolidated power like that among a group of people, they get very protective of each other and they'll do everything they possibly can to stop people from shaking that power up.
tim pool
You know, look, be real, though.
We can't allow the rabble to be in Congress.
robby starbuck
I know, I know.
tim pool
The rabble.
Could you imagine?
ian crossland
Man, I think this is like, it's almost scarily realistic, this conversation we're having, because, okay, it has happened in the past.
You had the plebeians, and now you have the 99%.
And then, so, is there, there must be a reason that it keeps appearing over and over again.
Maybe it's by design.
Maybe a small group of 120 IQ people decided to orchestrate society so that they could stay on top.
robby starbuck
Or maybe we just have not learned the lesson yet.
You know, there's that meme, what does it go like, hard times create strong men, strong men create hard times.
tim pool
Strong men make good times.
robby starbuck
Good times, yeah, good times create weak men, weak men create, yeah, and it goes on.
There's a lot of truth to that.
tim pool
That's what it is, man.
robby starbuck
And that's what we're living through.
There's been a lot of very, very weak men for a long time who have gotten very comfortable.
Sitting around with their cigars, drinking whatever they drink.
They have no clue what the heck their kids are doing.
Their kids turn into far left crazy people and they're totally disconnected from reality for normal people.
And then you build a society where times get really hard, which I would actually argue we're entering into right now.
I think people are going to really start to feel the effects of what these people have done to our world over the past couple of decades. 2026.
We're going to have some very strong men rise out of it that are going to have to bring us out and are going to have to do hard things.
tim pool
2026, so many people have told me that's the year.
And I'm like, what does that mean?
Well, there's a couple different, you know, analyses.
There's MIT's data on, you know, they calculated 40 years ago when it was all going to hit the fan.
There's some other guy who gave an interview to Vice like 10 years ago, was an expert on this stuff, said it's all going to hit the fan in the early 2020s.
And then you have Strassau generational theory, which predicts we're entering the final season of tumult.
robby starbuck
But however, did they include Joe Biden in their calculations?
Because it may be coming sooner.
tim pool
Pre-Civil War Buchanan.
We had a feckless, pathetic president then, and many people have said, Joe Biden seems to be our Buchanan, which is going to lead us into this tumultuous period.
Look, if Donald Trump wins in 2024, do you think the left is gonna be like...
Well, you know, Donald Trump won fair and square, so let's, you know... Nope!
ian crossland
Definitely.
robby starbuck
Nope.
ian crossland
Oh my gosh, that'd be great.
robby starbuck
Absolutely not.
ian crossland
Yeah, and the civil war that we're headed towards now is going to be like the metaverse versus base reality and like... Well, that's not for some time.
robby starbuck
...weird subhumans.
Yeah, we've got a little time before we get there.
I think we're going to have an actual physical experience that people are going to live through something that they're going to say, this used to be things we only read about, and this is reality now.
And I'd say this has been a long-term problem for our country that Our young people have been largely disconnected from the experiences of the world.
And it's a picture on a screen, not a reality, not a physical thing that you can understand.
And so if they see the experiences of somebody in, let's say, Africa, it's just a photo.
It's just an image.
You can't feel it.
You can't taste it.
You can't touch it.
You don't know what that world is actually like.
And I think when they go through the hard times that we may be facing, unless some really drastic things happen, It's going to change things.
It's going to change everything and even down to relationship levels of what people want out of their partners and what people want out of their life in general.
And you're going to see so much change.
It's going to make this great migration look like nothing.
This thing that's happened where everybody's moved all over the country.
It's going to make that look like nothing because you're going to see changes that are just flipped on their head in every segment of society.
tim pool
I think our audience deserves some good news, and so I will be fair, and we're going to do a feel-good story.
And this story is, Federal Election Commission Fines DNC and Clinton Over Russia Gate Hoax.
Nice.
robby starbuck
That's refreshing.
tim pool
Your feel-good story of the evening.
Hillary Clinton only got fined, I think, a small amount of money, but let's read.
According to a scoop from Paul Bedard of the Washington Examiner, the election agency said that Clinton and the DNC violated strict rules on describing expenditures of payments funneled to the opposition research firm Fusion GPS through their law firm.
A combined $1,024,407.97 was paid by the treasurers of the DNC and the Clinton campaign to law firm Perkins Coie for Fusion GPS's information, and the party and campaign hid the reason, claiming it was for legal services, not opposition research.
Instead, the DNC's $849,407.97 and the Clinton campaign's $175,000 covered Fusion GPS's opposition
research on the dossier, a basis for the so-called Russia hoax that dogged Trump's first term.
So I believe we have the numbers here.
The report says the agency fined Clinton's treasurer $8,000 and the DNC $105,000.
So, um, it could be good news.
But I do kind of feel like a lot of people are going to see that and say it's sweeping it under the rug.
robby starbuck
Well, there's more news too.
The Federal Election Commission was just found dead.
tim pool
I'm just kidding.
Just the entirety of the organization just gone overnight.
robby starbuck
The organization died.
Mysteriously in its sleep.
tim pool
You know what I love about the Hillary Clinton meme?
Is that like regular people used it.
robby starbuck
Yeah.
tim pool
Like Normie's talking about video games.
unidentified
100%.
tim pool
Like a video game company goes out of business and then the fake tweet appears.
Yes.
And it's just funny.
robby starbuck
It's fun.
No, but I think, I mean, this is...
I have trouble getting excited about things like this, to be perfectly honest with you, because it feels like the carrot they dangle in front of you, you know?
And I'm tired of having carrots dangled in front of people, and I think people are tired of it.
They just want the damn carrot.
They don't want a nibble of it.
They don't want to keep seeing it waved in front of them.
They want the whole carrot.
They know what's going on.
And that's the thing is, for so long we've had it just, yeah, it's almost insulting, honestly.
Eight grand?
Like, come on.
Hillary Clinton doesn't care about eight grand.
That's the other insulting part of it.
So I just, I kind of find it insulting more so than good news.
tim pool
I mean, it could be the precursor to something.
I mean, Donald Trump is suing the DNC, suing Clinton or the DCEU.
He's suing a whole bunch of Democrats over the Russiagate hoaxes.
This obviously will play very well into his lawsuit.
robby starbuck
Yeah.
No, this will help him for sure.
tim pool
But where do we go from here if there is no accountability for people like this who are still running and, as we talked about in the previous segment, trying to stop you from being able to go into Congress?
robby starbuck
I mean, I think we're going to see that decline only speed up if there continues to be no consequences and they continue to be able to sort of build this machine that keeps out outsiders.
Then it's just going to get worse faster, you know, whereas I feel like if we get this right in 2022, and this is probably the best chance we've got because people are so angry right now, at least in this time period.
I mean, you can argue a lot of things maybe in 2026 2030 may happen that may make people take a different route.
But in this election, I feel like we do have a great opportunity.
There are strong people, and not just in Congress.
I'm talking locally.
I mean, what did we learn from COVID?
Who you elect locally matters more than who you elect for president in so many cases.
Yep.
That's what changed your life during COVID, was who your mayor was, who your local sheriff was, and all that.
So people need to show up.
And the other lesson for all of this, though, is show up to primaries and local elections.
They're more important than the general, even.
I would argue that.
Because we need to pick the very best people for all of these positions.
tim pool
What's your district?
Is it Republican?
robby starbuck
District 5.
Yeah, it's a Republican district.
tim pool
You know what the Cook PVI is?
robby starbuck
I think it's plus 12 now in the new district.
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
robby starbuck
So it was actually plus 17 at one point, Democrat.
And it'd been a Democrat seat for over 100 years, but it was redistricted this year because the population growth in Middle Tennessee over the past decade has been massive, just exploded.
And it's largely the exodus of conservatives out of California, New York, and Illinois.
tim pool
Oh, coming in.
robby starbuck
Coming in.
tim pool
Well, Daily Wire.
Yep, Daily Wire.
robby starbuck
There's a bunch of companies coming in.
You know, I mean, just left and right companies, because we're a very business-friendly state.
You know, we're one of those states with a 0% state tax, too, when you come here.
So it's very friendly and enticing.
tim pool
This means that the primary is the actual election.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Because whoever wins the primary is going to win basically no matter what.
robby starbuck
Yep.
tim pool
So you need to make sure, all of you listening, that you go out and vote in your primaries and your local elections.
Enough states.
We're really close to a constitutional convention.
robby starbuck
Very close.
tim pool
Very close.
And that means if people all go out, if every single person who listened to this show went and told all of their immediate friends, hey, we're going to go vote in the local elections, I'm pretty sure Republicans would win these states.
robby starbuck
Well, and consider this too, okay?
So, this is the other thing.
We have to think tactically.
So, if you're looking at elections right now and you say, you know what, in my district it doesn't really matter, we're very safe, we've got a good person, or there's no way you're getting this person, whatever it is, okay?
You can make a difference in other parts of the country.
You can phone bank for other parts of the country.
Find races that matter, where it does matter.
Like, you say, I have to get that person in.
You know, there may be some guy on, like, a podcast you really like, you know, like, with a cool name like Robbie, and you're like, hey, I want to make sure that guy gets elected.
Go and actually do something to that effect.
You know, you don't even have to live there.
You can do it.
These are federal races.
But then in the local side of things, make sure you're involved.
Make sure you know who your mayor is.
You know where they stand on things.
Because that's been the shock for a lot of people.
They've found their mayors are little tyrants who want to control their lives.
Let's make sure we don't do that anymore.
Let's elect people who actually want the people to be free.
tim pool
What's the best way?
So when do you get elected?
Are you hanging out with like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Thomas Massey and the Freedom Caucus people?
robby starbuck
Absolutely.
tim pool
Because that's what we need more of.
I hear more and more stories from them.
The thing about Marjorie was that she came on the show, she's been on the show I think twice now, and a lot of people messaged me saying, we only heard crazy things about her, we never really looked into it.
robby starbuck
But then when she told the story about how she forced members of Congress to do an actual vote on bills, I'm getting all these messages from people cheering, being like, wow, She had the backbone to risk a lot of things I can't like fully go into but she risked a lot of things to support me and I will always always appreciate that and like I said politics is a business where they want you to stab your friends in the back and I refuse to do it.
I will never ever ever do that or you know talk down about somebody who's been an incredible friend or supporter and she's She cares.
She cares about this country.
She cares about freedom.
She cares about people.
And I think that's one of the things that people would be surprised by, is even if you disagreed with her, if you just sat down and talked with her, she cares about our country.
She cares about people.
And she doesn't want anybody hurting.
tim pool
But this was an amazing thing for us to learn, thanks to the Freedom Caucus and many of these other peoples, that Members of Congress don't actually vote on these bills.
They just have proxies and they're just banging a gavel and just shuffling it through like, yes, you know, whatever, who cares?
It's almost like there's no Congress at this point.
I mean, look, Nancy Pelosi pushes through her spending bill.
Nobody has a chance to read it.
Whoever is Speaker of the House just makes it happen.
ian crossland
It was supposed to be, at least according to Ben Franklin, the way he was envisioning it was that it would be like a jury duty summons.
You'd get a summons to go serve on Congress for a while and then when you're done you go home.
But people couldn't afford it.
robby starbuck
Well, you know part of why Congress is so broken is it's the fundraising side of things.
We have a bunch of people who are good fundraisers and they're terrible representatives.
A bunch of people to that effect.
And that's the reality of it.
You know, if you don't, if you're not either independently wealthy Or you can't fundraise like crazy.
And you're just a really good person with great ideas that can get things done.
You're not winning your race.
You have got to be able to spend money in these races.
And that's what's terrible is that it's created this sort of system where you have a bunch of people who, if corporations will come to you and say, like Amazon or Big Pharma or whoever it is, and they say, hey, we'll give you X amount and we'll throw all this money into packs that are going to support you.
These people take the money.
And then, it is a quid pro quo, and nobody will admit it, but I'm admitting it.
That's 100% what these people are doing.
And it's why I refuse to take their money, because we need to be able to put a line in the sand and say, this whole thing that's been going on, this is what is ruining our country.
Nobody's going in there to vote or to reading or to writing or legislating in any part, any segment of it, and saying, hey, how is this going to affect, like, your average family in the middle of the country?
unidentified
What I don't get is, how, why does it cost money?
ian crossland
Because I started, I made a YouTube channel in 2006.
I was like, wow, I've got 10,000 subscribers pretty quick.
I don't need money to run for office now.
I have what money buys, which is the platform to speak.
So what do you need money for? So I have a large platform and that's what a lot of people ask me is
robby starbuck
they're like, well, why would I need to donate to you? You have like almost a million followers
via all your social media. Like why would you need me? Millions of people watch you, blah, blah, blah.
They don't live in my district. You know, maybe 24% of my district consumes their content online.
The rest of them, either it's like still newspapers, they listen to radio or their TV,
or they just, they don't do any of that. And they're people who work.
They work for a living, they go home, they spend time with their family, that's it.
They're pretty disconnected from what's going on in the news.
You have to be able to send out mailers.
You have to be able to make sure your name's out there, and especially in primaries, the number one predictor of primary, who's gonna win, is name ID.
So if you actually do a poll on just name ID, have you heard this name before?
That person's much more likely to win if they're higher in name ID, whether it's good, bad, indifferent, doesn't matter.
They just know the name.
tim pool
People are going to be like, Starbuck, that sounds familiar.
You get my vote.
robby starbuck
Yeah.
Well, you know, that's, that's part of the hope, but no, you've got to be able to get this stuff out there and actually make people feel something about you.
You know, and that's a good thing, whether it's good or bad, because you've got to stand in what you actually are going to do, you know, and in my case, it's a good thing because I'm in a conservative district, but you've got to pay for the ads.
That's the other thing, is that ads are one of the critical ways, you know, if there's another, let's say, 28% of people who watch everything that they get about politics on TV, if you're not present in those ads, you're not there in their ad space in that time they're spending watching TV, but your opponent is, You're in trouble.
You know, and I've seen that in a lot of races where there's an incredible person, but they raised just not enough money to be able to do ads outside of maybe one or two places.
And their opponent has money from, you know, all these corporate super PACs, and they can just flood the zone.
Flooding the zone is the name of the game.
They know how to flood the zone in these places where people consume this content, the person becomes more familiar with the name, and maybe their only familiarity with your name now is that corporate pack who ran negative ads against you saying, this person, you know, they hate Trump.
Watch this video where they hated Trump and it'll be like a video of this person doing that.
But in reality, the truth of it is it was a video of that person playing a part during a party game where they're explaining what you do during voting, you know, and they just took it entirely out of context.
But the people watching it will never know that, you know.
That's something you've got to sort of be able to battle.
You know, and if you don't have the money to do it, then people are going to have the wrong impression about you.
So like in my case, the thing they're going to go after is say, he's too Hollywood.
He's directed, you know, all these people who are Hollywood values and blah, blah, blah.
You know, how do you know he's really going to fight for you?
And it's like, what have you done?
What have you done?
And if you can't fight back or credibly, like give people an argument for why they should vote for you, then they're just going to move on, you know, and do what feels comfortable.
tim pool
I love getting these text messages.
I just pulled one up from this past week.
This is somebody running against Lauren Boebert.
And that's basically their pitch.
That's it.
We don't like her, and give us money.
ian crossland
Maybe not that it's illegal, but running smear ads...
unidentified
What?
ian crossland
How can you justify taking political money and then running an ad to make someone else look bad?
robby starbuck
What does that have to do with your political game?
That is all they're going to do in my race against me because I have a higher name ID than basically everybody in the field.
And so the problem with that for them is they want to make sure that's attached to something negative.
So for them, that's Hollywood.
They feel like the Hollywood thing is going to really hurt.
See, my whole thought on that is actually...
Pretty far out from where they're at, I think, because I'm like, this is what they try to do to Trump.
People don't believe this crap anymore.
You know, like I directed something that had violence in it or something like that.
It's like, yeah, that was my job.
This is not reality.
It was not reality.
It was part of my job.
People care about where you're at on policy, you know?
ian crossland
Yeah, they'll see that commercial where it's like, and Robbie Starbuck something, something, something.
It's all black and white.
And then it shows the other guy with like the sunshine is like, and this guy does the thing.
Well, they'll probably, they'll search your name and they'll see you talking on this show.
And suddenly they'll be like, Oh, this is the guy.
robby starbuck
That's the real person.
ian crossland
It's good marketing.
robby starbuck
You know, so, and it depends, do they care enough to do that?
You know, that's the real question.
Do enough people care enough to do that, to make that search, to take that leap and say, am I being lied to?
I think people are becoming more awake to that and the necessity of doing things like that.
But, you know, the reality is, is that you've got to meet people where they are.
And that's the big part of fundraising is that.
And so, you know, you're at a handicap if you say, I'm just going to refuse all the corporate money.
But I think it's critical to the direction we're going as a country.
You've got to take that stand.
And a bunch of members criticized me early on.
They were like, dude, I get it.
I want to do the same thing, but you've got to just do this so you win.
And I'm like, I would rather sell my house dead serious for my kids.
I would rather sell my house than take money from Amazon.
Because that is just the beginning of you compromising values.
tim pool
We'll clarify too.
I mean, when you say take money, typically it's like they dump it into a super pack and then adds on your behalf.
robby starbuck
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, usually they're like, you know, the Super PAC and the candidate don't coordinate, but they do.
robby starbuck
It's BS.
ian crossland
And then so it's like Amazon put, however much, what would be their maximum amount that Amazon could put into a campaign for someone?
tim pool
Could?
ian crossland
Yeah.
robby starbuck
Unlimited.
Unlimited amounts?
ian crossland
Unlimited.
robby starbuck
In a pack it's unlimited.
ian crossland
And then what if you're just like, thanks, you run the campaign, you win, and then you're like, eh, bye Amazon, I'm not involved anymore, thanks for helping me.
Like, now I'm going to do what I want to do.
robby starbuck
I've never seen anybody do it.
tim pool
What typically happens when you're running an illegal bribery scheme and then you don't give the guys who bribed you what they've asked for?
ian crossland
They come crucking the knuckles, son!
robby starbuck
Well, no, that's exactly it.
It's like, OK, go off the premise of how this all works.
If you really made a backroom deal with some company that you're going to do their bidding and do what they want and they dump in millions into your pack to make sure you can go do that, do you really think that they won't go out and expose you in some way?
Because the company is going to get a slap on the wrist, but you, you'll get in real
trouble.
ian crossland
You're an individual.
It's supposed to be a, it's a donation.
Those are donations, right?
They're making donations which have no quid pro quo attached to them.
robby starbuck
Well, and there's a lot of rules with the PACs.
So like, you know, you're not supposed to communicate or anything like that with them.
You know, as a candidate, I can't talk to a PAC.
I don't even have a PAC.
But if I did have a PAC, you know, let's say further closer to the election.
I can't communicate in any way with them.
There's ways you're allowed to go speak at events and things like that, but it's a very serious rule.
You can't, you know, you're not supposed to at least, but the good people follow the rules and the vast majority don't follow those rules.
tim pool
I don't think there, I think there's like three or maybe like five good people.
robby starbuck
Yeah.
tim pool
Most people may be well-intentioned when they get in, but then like you said, they're like, look, look, they're corrupted.
One thing you got to do, you just got to do it.
robby starbuck
Yep, that's the first compromise is the last compromise, because the minute you start doing it, it will never stop.
tim pool
And Donald Trump, you just know that when he got in office, they sat him down, the intelligence agencies, and they were like, this is the plan and the mission, this is what we're doing, and he went, no, excuse me, we're getting our troops out, it's not happening.
And they got pissed off.
robby starbuck
That's why I love the guy.
That's why I love the guy.
You know, people... This is what's funny, is after he endorsed the other candidate in this race, and everybody was like, you've got to be so mad.
All these news outlets come, NBC, CNN, all these places are like, do you want to come?
Obviously, they want me to go in and bash him.
You know, they're like, we've got division in the MAGA movement.
Candace Owens went against what Trump said.
Marjorie Taylor Greene went against what he said.
His own lawyers went against it and goes on and on and on.
And, you know, I was like, this is everything you guys want now.
I'm not going to do it.
I love the guy.
Like he's hilarious.
This is the energy.
We need people who are outsiders who are going to fight this insane system.
They're going to make mistakes along the way.
They're not always going to be perfect, but they're going to do their damn best to do what people need.
ian crossland
It feels like a plane that's going down and we need a pilot to help us crash land because the Federal Reserve had this, it's been going on for a hundred years.
They've been printing and printing and printing to a point where we can't, we owe more interest than we can pay back now.
And they're using this global catastrophe as like the COVID shutdown as an excuse.
tim pool
To reset it?
ian crossland
Yeah, as an excuse, but it was headed towards a- Like a great reset?
robby starbuck
A big, really big- A really big one?
You'd call it almost great?
ian crossland
It'd be more like a gargantuan reset.
robby starbuck
A gargantuan, yes.
ian crossland
A gargantuan reset or something.
robby starbuck
It sounds accurate.
unidentified
Just a little one.
ian crossland
So I just don't know how to, I hope someone can crash land it properly.
We do need people with high energy.
At least what we need is like a shared vision of reality.
robby starbuck
Yes.
Yes!
This is something that is critical.
Okay?
Critical to the future of our country.
We have so many mixed realities right now, and one of the most unifying things for a society is your fundamental ability to agree on what reality is.
Even language.
Like, look at language in our country.
We can't even agree on words right now.
tim pool
Well, we can, but there are people who are lying.
robby starbuck
Yeah, exactly.
But then they're confusing people who are growing up in this environment.
And those people who are growing up confused, you know, I don't blame them.
I blame the evil people who are doing this.
But what they're producing, and what they're trying to do, is create the elements necessary to bring full-bore communism.
That's my deepest belief.
You know, my family already fled communism once.
Everything they're doing now is not new.
This is something that's been done many times before, and it was done in Cuba, where my family had to flee.
This is not a new thing.
We just need to wake up and stop it before it comes to reality and destroys the future of our country.
You know, this is decision time.
And we have a lot of people who have decision fatigue in our country, where they're just, they're tired.
They're tired of making decisions.
But this is the time where people need to be strong and say, you know what?
We've got to make those right decisions.
We've got to do things and make sacrifices now, because if we don't, we're going to end up in a situation where we're going to have to make some really, really serious sacrifices.
And that's the truth of it.
So if people wake up enough and they say, I can make this small sacrifice now, great.
If they don't, though, I think we're gonna end up in a situation where they're gonna be forced into serious sacrifice.
ian crossland
So you want people to just put forth that extra burst of energy, like when you're near the end of a race and you just can't run anymore?
robby starbuck
In everything.
Not just with me.
You know, not just like, oh, go donate to my campaign at starbuck2022.com.
Not just that, okay?
But like actual energy and everyday life about living your values.
You know, like this Disney thing I think we're probably going to talk about, right?
The Disney thing.
Don't go take your kid to Disneyland.
It's not going to ruin their life.
Don't give Disney more money.
Don't give money to people who hate you.
tim pool
Well, there are a lot of traffickers that are getting arrested at Disney over the past several years.
I don't know.
I probably wouldn't want to go there anyway.
robby starbuck
Don't go there.
Don't give them your money.
Show some strength.
Have a spine.
Cancel your Netflix account.
All these companies who hate you, stop giving them your money.
tim pool
See, I have no Netflix, but people here do have Netflix, so it's like it's on anyway.
When Disney Plus came out, I bought a year, because it's always cheaper just to buy the year forward.
And then what happened was the We Are Muslim thing, and I was like, so I'm not going to be renewing it, that's for sure.
And it's all around not that good.
robby starbuck
When we start demanding that our values are actually able to be lived out in everything we do, things will change.
tim pool
But my point that I'm trying to get to is, The answer isn't, in my opinion, to tell everybody to cancel their Netflix.
I see some people are mentioning they did.
Obviously you want to cancel your Netflix, but the real answer is Daily Wire needs to ramp up.
robby starbuck
Yes, absolutely.
tim pool
We need to start producing more cultural content.
People who are anti-establishment, it's not just about conservative, it's about you're anti-establishment, you're populist, you're libertarian.
These are the values that most of us share.
I tried, I wanted to watch Hyperion's, I wanted to watch the new Daily Wire movie, but I can't watch it on my TV.
Because you've got Daily Wire on like Rokr or whatever, but I have a smart TV.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That means Daily Wire needs to make an LG app.
Guys, what are you doing?
And I think, I don't know if they have the Sony app, but our Sony TV is Android based.
So I think we can download, download, download the Android.
ian crossland
That's a good word, download, dude.
robby starbuck
I'm going to have to check because I checked about three or four months ago and I couldn't do it on a Sony TV.
But, you know, hopefully they have, because I think that you are absolutely right.
If it's an Android TV, you should be able to.
This is a critical, critical next step.
We've got to, you know, fill these holes in culture in every way.
You know, school choice is another example of this.
You know, I know it's a far leap for a lot of people from talking about entertainment, but these are cultural pillars.
And think about how different our country's gonna look if you told parents, you know, like, let's take a place like Baltimore, okay?
They take about $17,500 per child, they earmark for them to go to public school.
Meanwhile, they're producing kids, one out of 10, graduate high school in Baltimore, proficient in math and reading, okay?
That's not something that should ever happen in America.
Now imagine you take that $17,500, you hand it to parents and you say, do what you want to educate your child.
It is up to you, your job, you handle it.
No strings attached from government.
Government is not going to get in the way of this.
Do what you want.
Imagine 20% of them decide to homeschool and now you have 20% more kids in our country staying at home with a parent.
for those formative years.
What kind of cultural effects are there going to be long term?
It's going to be massive.
Everything you can think of from incarceration rates to, you know, the jobs that people choose, you know, family, how long people stay together, everything will change.
Everything will change in society based off just these small things that will change from school choice.
And if you fill those gaps, give people choice, and this is another one, you know, with Daily Wire, it's truly about not just getting conservative content out there, it's about giving people a real choice.
Right now we live in a system in the entertainment industry and everywhere else where we don't really have real choices.
It's basically you have 10 options of the same left-wing garbage and that's it.
You know?
That's not a choice.
ian crossland
That's why I started making my own.
Same with music, too.
tim pool
I want to shout out this meme I posted on Twitter.
So somebody posted, well, so let's start with James Lindsay.
He said, this is art.
Slippery slope fallacy.
You're overreacting, you're overreacting.
And then it's like, you know, Disney employees And then I responded, quote,
so what if government employees want to have sexual conversations
with your four-year-old in secret?
And then someone posted this meme, when you tell a Democrat they can't teach sex to kindergartners
and it's the Arthur making a fist.
robby starbuck
Where they're getting mad.
tim pool
Well, I fixed it.
I put, when you tell a Democrat they can't have sexual conversations
with four-year-olds in secret.
Because that's what's going on in Florida, which has resulted in all of this.
robby starbuck
That's what Democrats want!
tim pool
And I'm not going to mince words, because I'm just—anybody who knowingly opposes the Parental Rights and Education Bill is saying, why can't we have secret conversations with four- to nine-year-olds about sexual topics?
robby starbuck
It's a pedophile agenda.
tim pool
It's it's it's complete groomer.
It's pedophile adjacent at the very least, but there's a lot of crypto pedos.
You know, what does it mean?
robby starbuck
No, it's a pedophile agenda cryptically.
tim pool
So so crypto pedo means there are people who are playing with kids.
robby starbuck
Yeah, this is this is one of those stages of going into communism.
Because first of all, it fits a couple different categories.
Separating children from their parents.
Okay?
Communists love to do that.
They like to separate kids from their parents because fundamentally they need to take over a parental role.
They need that child to see them as a parent.
And that's what bills like this do is push us closer.
Not the bill, but the action that they want and why they're so mad about the bill is they want to be able to push those kids closer to the state being mommy or daddy.
Okay?
And If they can't talk to them about these critical issues that are supposed to be things that parents talk to their kids about and teach their kids about, you know, that's a problem for them because that's getting in the way of their agenda.
Now beyond just that, this is just step one.
The next step in this is if they feel like they can move the Overton window far enough over where suddenly you get 50% of Democrats or 60 or 70 or 80 okay with this idea that yes, in fact, the state does have a right to have a sexual conversation with a four-year-old, And share their own sexuality and sex life with their four-year-old.
If that becomes normalized, what's next?
It's gonna be a child sexual rights agenda.
And that's what people need to be woke to.
Is that's what's coming down the line next, and if you're not aware of it now, and you don't fight this, and you don't do what you can to stop this now, then you're just okay with that next step.
Yeah, I gotta be honest.
tim pool
You know, I gotta be honest.
If you go back in time, there was talk about the slippery slope, and it all happened.
And now here we are ten years later, and once again we're having the same conversations, it's gonna get bad, and...
robby starbuck
And I hope that at least the reality of knowing that there's been some things that were correct about that is going to wake people up enough to say, ooh, maybe there's something we need to do differently here.
ian crossland
Yeah, big time.
Knowing what the system is doing drastically changes the system itself.
robby starbuck
Yeah, the calculus has changed, you know, and I think that's something that we all need to take really seriously.
I mean, that's what my wife does is, you know, she works in this area.
She's actually launching a nonprofit to do exactly this, stop child exploitation, because we've essentially created a pipeline for kids from birth to exploit them.
You know, look at social media, how early kids are on TikTok, or how early they're on Instagram pages, with absolutely no oversight.
And we teach girls specifically that, like, commodifying yourself, making yourself into a commodity and it's your body, essentially, is a good thing.
That's the stuff broken societies do.
ian crossland
Dude, I was just thinking about little kids seeing pornography on the internet when they're 2, 3, and 4 years old.
robby starbuck
You know what the average age is?
ian crossland
My guess is 4.
What is it?
robby starbuck
The average age in America right now where somebody's exposed to hardcore porn, so like a video, is 11.
ian crossland
That's what we know of.
That's documented.
Kids might see it and not even know they're seeing it when they're 3 or 4.
robby starbuck
That's the average.
They wouldn't be able to answer the question when they do those things where they try to figure this out.
They wouldn't even be able to answer it three or four.
So if you just said, you know, that probably likely happens to a certain extent, you would probably say that number in reality is a little bit lower, but that's the one that's documented is that it's at least 11.
It shouldn't be that way.
You know, and this is not, we're not talking about like them sneaking under their grandpa's, you know, mattress and getting a playbook.
This is really graphic stuff.
This is horrific stuff that they're seeing.
ian crossland
It's the first time in human history that I know of that humans have been exposed to this kind of content at that age.
And I'm wondering if the people that are in their 20s now are the people that saw that stuff when they were four.
In 2003, when internet video appeared.
And now they're teaching.
Now they're teachers.
robby starbuck
Well, I have somewhat of a controversial take, too, when it comes to porn.
And it's that, you know, I feel like we as men have a responsibility to normalize the fact that you should feel emasculated if you have to watch porn.
I feel like we should try to normalize normal, sexual, healthy relationships with your spouse.
And that, you know, porn in itself is not doing anything positive for you.
Like, if you look at things from a net positive or net life drain basis, it's draining things from your life and nothing it's producing is really good for you.
ian crossland
You know, just like when you say profane, things aren't necessarily the F word.
You can be profane.
I think you can be pornographic without sex.
And not all sex is pornographic.
There's ways, it's just, you know, it's the way that it's portrayed.
robby starbuck
I'm not sure I fully understand.
tim pool
I think you were wrong about that one.
ian crossland
I watch a lot of porn, you could say.
There's some that's like healthy sex, people enjoying themselves, and there's some where it's bad.
tim pool
I suppose if you're watching like an educational science, you know, thing that's like very dry and, you know, just like an old man is going, as the man becomes a rock.
robby starbuck
But who needs that?
Okay, that's okay.
tim pool
You know if you're like in med school, you know, or you're a biologist
robby starbuck
I'm sorry, if you're a biologist or you're in med school and you need to see that video you should probably pick a
tim pool
job You're completely wrong. I'm talking about an educational
thing showing like organs like you okay that that that's okay
robby starbuck
I thought you meant like a play-by-play on how sex works I was gonna be like, yeah, your parents should have
tim pool
explained literally would if you're gonna talk about Like all the chemical functions you could you could they
could make a video showing to people having sex. It wouldn't be porn
Yeah, it would be like a medical by biological thing. We got to go to super chat
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We started talking about some spicy stuff That's why we have Tim cast outcome, but let's read some of these super chats.
Let's see we got What is this one?
Mikael Isaacson says Swedish companies Atlas Copco, Sandvik, and SKF questioned about selling parts to Russia for building nukes, according to newspaper Expressen.
As I've said many times before, Sweden is the final puppet master.
Hmm, interesting.
Very important super chat here from Brian Page.
He says, let's go Brandon.
unidentified
Let's go.
tim pool
Interesting.
robby starbuck
That's my favorite super chat.
tim pool
Interesting, yeah.
robby starbuck
So far at least, so far.
Okay, you're in first place for now.
tim pool
Wootdoo4u says, I just want to know what's happened to women.
Last three I dated, all were closet addicts and had some form of personality disorder.
I'm a disaffected liberal, seems like Christian women are the only option.
I think in cities, there's, for one, women are mass medicated in this country with birth control, which is hormonal, which does cause, you know, psychological effects on any individual who takes, you know, hormones.
And as for people living in cities, You know, the first thing I'll say is, bro, if everywhere you walk it smells like crap, you gotta check your boot.
Maybe it's you.
But, um, it's also possible that in cities, especially over the past two years, people have become dejected, depressed, and purposeless, and so they do drugs.
And they develop personality disorders from it.
robby starbuck
Well, look at the average life of a girl in our country.
Like, if you just did, like, you tried to do a replay, like a 30 second cut of life for a girl, and what they're expected To do now and what matters to a woman, you know, is supposed to matter.
And I think it's fundamentally changed from what it's been for a very long time in history.
And I think that it's led to really unhealthy outcomes.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
I saw the article saying that they found microplastics in the human blood for the first time.
And as they're researching it, they're finding that it appears in babies way more because the blood-brain barrier is much more permeable.
And I wonder if little children, if somehow women are more impacted by like the chemicals in the supply.
robby starbuck
Look at diet too.
Diet.
This is the first time in human history that we've really eaten processed foods all the time.
All the time.
Our diets entirely changed from what it was for hundreds and hundreds of years.
Thousands of years.
tim pool
So processed food also includes like you know, pepperoni and I'm talking about like, like
robby starbuck
process is kind of like, you know, like, like if we're going into like super, I mean,
just think about the diets your average person has, you know, like if you're
eating fast food on a regular basis, you're doing all this stuff and you're not
getting food from the earth and you're not, you know, sort of having somewhat
of a mindset that you care about what you put in your body.
This is very different from history because in history we were fundamentally
getting our food from the ground or from animals period.
You know, there wasn't really other options.
We weren't creating it in a factory somewhere and then eating Cheetos, you
know, that does have an effect on our health longterm and our outcomes, you
know, and even just, you know, if you go into brain science, it has an effect on
your brain, you know?
So I think that there's a lot of different factors that have changed for
And you touched on all of the, you know, psychotropics that people are on.
You know, there's tons of medicines that people are on that we've never been on before.
And we guess at really what the outcomes and changes are going to be or what we pass on to our kids.
You know, so I think you've got to consider all that.
tim pool
All right, we got Jay Shartzer who says, glad to see you back, Ian.
Out of all the graphene hippie Jesus lookalikes, you are number one.
That's just how you roll.
And Murph says, glad to see you back, Ian.
Now roll the bones.
ian crossland
All right, I'm rolling the one that has all 20s on it, though.
tim pool
Why?
ian crossland
I want to see what I get.
I got a 20.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
ian crossland
I'll roll the real one, guys.
robby starbuck
You got a 2 and a 0.
Rolling the 20 was actually rolling a 1.
ian crossland
You're right.
I rolled an eight.
That's the infinity symbol.
I'm into it.
tim pool
All right, all right.
I'll give you that one.
ian crossland
Straight eight.
tim pool
All right.
Omega says, Ian will have a 20-20 and still manage to roll a one.
ian crossland
You weren't wrong.
tim pool
I thought it'd be funny, actually, if you roll the 20 and then it landed straight up pointing on one of the tips and just doesn't give you anything.
robby starbuck
That would be great.
ian crossland
You know, in my life, you guys, I've rolled a lot of 1s, but I just keep going.
And then you'll start rolling 20s again, and then you'll be like, I'm rolling 20s!
tim pool
That's inspirational.
All right, Valoran says, with Daily Wire's announcement today, I want to shout out other
creator projects like Lotus Eaters and your own Timcast, who are creating news and culture
platforms to break the grip of nonce Disney.
So what did Daily Wire announce today?
They're doing children's content?
Is that the big announcement?
ian crossland
There was a board meeting.
I saw Jeremy Boring gave a speech he was giving on their channel.
tim pool
I mean, there's big money in kids stuff.
ian crossland
And they're expanding the Razer company.
They're actually creating the Razer company because they have the Razer product, but no company yet.
So that's what they're in the process of doing.
robby starbuck
Well, there's a market for all this stuff.
You know, like my family, we have three kids, 13, 8, and 5.
We're not giving any money to Disney, period.
They create a kids company, and it's content that you actually can feel comfortable letting your kids consume.
They've got customers.
tim pool
The only way to really win in the cultural battle is to make culture.
And for the past 10 years in the culture war, the anti-establishment, anti-woke, has been complaining about culture.
Not getting jobs at these companies, not pushing back while it was being infiltrated and destroyed and rebuilt.
So now...
Hopefully not too little too late, but still a bit late.
A lot of companies are starting to say we're going to produce cultural content and, you know, good for them.
robby starbuck
All it takes is one blowing up.
When one blows up, there's going to be a lot more.
tim pool
I think the Daily Wire is going to grow much faster than people realize.
robby starbuck
I think so, too.
tim pool
You know, they're just getting started.
I think they have, what, three and four movies?
robby starbuck
Yep.
And they're in my district.
They're in my district, too.
So I'm a big, big, extra big fan of Daily Wire because I feel like they're going to bring a lot of jobs to our area.
So I'm excited for them.
tim pool
We might be down there in a week.
robby starbuck
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, we're gonna head over to Nashville.
robby starbuck
I told you, you can come over and shoot.
Yeah.
We'll come over and shoot at my farm.
tim pool
It'll be fun.
ian crossland
Oh, that sounds cool.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
How big is the farm?
robby starbuck
12 acres.
ian crossland
Yeah, dude.
tim pool
Yeah.
All right, let's see.
Matthew Reckamp says, would you be willing to debate Mark Levin, him on your podcast, or you on his radio show, on the proposed assassination of Putin?
Why, is he pro-Putin assassination?
robby starbuck
I think so.
tim pool
Um, you know, you know the one issue is I mean I'd love to have him on this show for sure
That'd be that'd be awesome. We could talk about whatever, you know
All right. Let's see. We got here. That would be a riot nitro cat says Robbie starbuck
I loved your work on asking Alexandria a prophecy. Oh cool That video has a ton of views on YouTube.
robby starbuck
I think it's like 150 million or something.
unidentified
Whoa, really?
robby starbuck
Yeah.
tim pool
You got to help us put together some music videos.
robby starbuck
Yeah.
tim pool
Thank you.
We've got a bunch coming out with our Will of the People stuff.
So the two that we've been working on, which are all part of this universe.
robby starbuck
I've retired from music videos, but I would come out of retirement to do yours.
I would do that.
You and Smashing Pumpkins.
I told Billy a long time ago I'll come out and I'll do another Pumpkins video if you ask me, but that's it.
tim pool
Yo, can we get Billy to collab?
robby starbuck
He absolutely should.
He 100% should.
I'll send him your song, too.
I figured you guys knew each other.
tim pool
Well, we've met, and it was one of the coolest moments of my life because he told me he was a fan.
robby starbuck
Oh, he is rad.
So people always ask me, what's the coolest celebrity you've ever worked with?
And it's not even a question, it's 1000% Billy Corgan because I was the hugest Smashing Pumpkins fan.
And I directed a video and in that time it was my birthday and he gave me a private concert for my birthday just him at a piano in this wrestling arena place we were at and he sat there and played all my favorite songs for me and my crew and that was it and it was the coolest thing ever.
tim pool
Such a rad moment getting to meet Billy Corcoran because I was such a big fan of Smashing Pumpkins for obvious reasons, you know.
He's such a huge band, so that was cool.
Man, it would be awesome.
I mean, we got Pete Parata, formerly of The Offspring, who's doing drums for us.
unidentified
He is so good.
robby starbuck
He's awesome, dude.
tim pool
And it's amazing.
robby starbuck
I like him.
tim pool
The drum track he did, we got two songs.
One's called Pain, one's called Bright Eyes, or Bright Eyed, S-R-D.
But when he did this amazing drum thing where he did like three separate drum tracks For, uh, the song Pain.
robby starbuck
Yeah.
tim pool
Which is just cool.
And he's like, he's banging on a tom standing up while he's playing.
It's legit.
It's cool stuff.
robby starbuck
Yeah.
tim pool
All right.
Let's, uh, let's grab some more super chats.
We got Austin Walter says, glad TN, uh, Tennessee five was redistricted.
We're now in your district.
Joe should start a comedy and podcasting streaming service.
robby starbuck
So if you're in my district, you better go to my website and, um, donate and then volunteer and request a sign.
Cause we need yard signs in your yard.
tim pool
All right.
Let's see.
We got.
Rob Matt says, hire Joe Rogan.
You can pay him in DMT.
Mr. Physics says, hey gang, just wanted to let you know you inspired me to start a 3D printing company.
And as a thank you, I'm going to make a spherical die for each of you.
Makers 3D prints on Etsy.
Cool, man.
Really appreciate that.
ian crossland
That's epic.
The fact that you started a company.
Epic, dude.
tim pool
All right.
Catherine Halliday says, so now we have Will Smith, Alec Baldwin, and Juicy.
Does anyone see a trend here?
As someone from Scotland, I miss Seamus, but glad Ian is back.
ian crossland
I miss Seamus, too.
tim pool
Seamus, you know, can you believe the nerve of this guy?
He just thinks that his Freedom Tunes is more important than Tim Kast's IRL.
ian crossland
Like he's got freedom in the name of his product or something.
tim pool
How dare he not be on this show?
All right, all right.
What is this?
Murph says, Tim, when are we going to get the TimCast.com 8-hour special debate of Ian and Seamus on religion?
As soon as Ian and Seamus do it.
ian crossland
Dude, I'm going to hit up Michael Knowles when we're down there, and maybe we can all do something with the D-dubs.
tim pool
That would be so cool.
ian crossland
Because those guys, they got a lot of info and knowledge.
I like, Jeremy's got a lot of info.
I think, was he a pastor?
Boring at some point?
tim pool
Jeremy Boring?
ian crossland
Did someone say that?
tim pool
I don't think so.
robby starbuck
I don't think so.
unidentified
No?
tim pool
That doesn't sound right.
ian crossland
I'm going to look it up.
tim pool
Yeah, that doesn't sound like something that could be true.
robby starbuck
He just called himself a god king, so... I'm gonna vote no on was a pastor previously.
ian crossland
Yeah, a Christian pastor.
He was established a home church in Los Angeles.
robby starbuck
Are you serious?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
He was.
robby starbuck
That's something I did not know.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
robby starbuck
That is new information.
tim pool
I apologize.
I was wrong.
ian crossland
You sly animal.
tim pool
Did you guys hear his song?
Him and Smokey Mike and the God King together again?
It's a good song.
robby starbuck
Oh, really?
tim pool
You know, so he's here on the show and he's like, look, it's a joke.
He's like, I play.
I'm not that good.
And then you play the song.
It's a really good song.
It is funny.
It is hilarious what they did, Smokey Mike and the God King.
But Ian, you should play.
You'd love it.
ian crossland
Oh, great.
tim pool
Yeah.
robby starbuck
There's some other people on our side who have very, really, really impressive musical talent.
I'm excited.
tim pool
Gotta get it going, man.
ian crossland
Hopefully we can disperse the sides and just make the best music as a species.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
This is, of course, why, you know, so many people want to rip off my music talent.
But what can be said?
But we did talk about that.
All right, let's see what we got here.
The Great Anywho says, Well, Texas just presented a bill, HB4122, also called the Don't Say Graphene Bill.
Sorry, Ian.
Love you, bro.
Glad you're back.
ian crossland
What?
That's gotta be a lie.
tim pool
Yeah, apparently they were debating over whether or not Ian says graphene too much on TimCast IRL.
ian crossland
Oh, let the debate end right now?
Yes.
The answer is yes, I do.
tim pool
He says it too much.
ian crossland
But now you know what graphene is, don't you?
tim pool
Okay, here we go.
Dave says, watched Will of the People and then the knockoff version.
TimCast's version is unquestionably better, and I can't wait to see the content that comes out of it bring on the movie.
Yeah, because we were talking about a movie of this universe, and it's just sociopolitical themes and stuff.
But we have a couple songs.
Will of the People, the song, is kind of like the overarching universe of this country in this tumult.
And then the other songs are like singular moments within it.
So one of the things we're planning on doing is that in the animations, because we're gonna be doing the same animation, same style, color schemes and all that stuff, in the next songs, they're gonna be from key moments that will reflect back upon Will of the People's original video.
So, I don't want to give away too much.
robby starbuck
Oh, that's cool.
tim pool
But we have one that ends with, like, an explosion.
robby starbuck
Yeah.
tim pool
And then the explosion reveals one of the scenes from the original video.
Oh, nice.
ian crossland
Very cool.
tim pool
So it's like filling in the gaps.
Plus, I always want to stress, we have a full storyboard for, like, two different songs in terms of the videos.
And we have character backstories for, like, novelizations or video games and stuff, too, because it's, like, the most successful cultural thing that we've done.
robby starbuck
Expand the universe.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
We've got these ideas for these characters, their backstories, what we can do in terms of video games, card games, graphic novels, film, and all that stuff.
And maybe it sounds grandiose to a certain extent, but just so people understand, you look at the success of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, you look at the failure of DC, and obviously, Harry Potter, universes are what you should be aiming for.
You shouldn't just be trying to do, like, hey, I'm gonna make a song.
So I've said this for months that we were working on sequels to the song.
The idea was to take stories from within this universe and then make something bigger out of it.
And that's what we are doing.
We've actually already run marketing campaigns over the last year and this year.
So just to stress how much we're putting into this.
All right.
Colter Wagner says, are you guys planning on publishing things like fiction, fantasy, and poetry as you build culture?
Yes.
Absolutely.
ian crossland
Hell yes.
tim pool
We already have a book out, Tales from the Inverted World.
We have, uh, the second book is nearing completion and it is a hundred times better than the first book.
This is crazy.
This next book, there were death threats.
You know, people were threatening to, you know, kill.
ian crossland
Is this Shane?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Dude, I talked to him a few days ago.
I'm excited to see.
tim pool
So, we've got a bunch of cool stuff.
I don't know how much I should reveal.
I can probably just say this.
No big deal.
The next series is, of course, Ghosts of the Civil War, Ghosts of the Confederacy.
And he went down to look for the lost Confederate gold in Georgia and found a whole bunch of crazy ghost stories, Sasquatch, UFOs, and all the stuff in between.
So there's, like, the story of chasing after this lost gold to uncover the mystery, and then all the weird stuff in between is each chapter.
But then we're also looking at stories in Chicago with, you know, the 1920s, the gangster stuff, Al Capone.
You've got a whole bunch of crazy Chicago ghost stories.
And then we've got plans for all this stuff, you know, coming out.
ian crossland
That's exciting.
tim pool
Because we plan long term.
ian crossland
Yeah, yeah.
Shane and I were talking about if land can harbor pain, if like the land can actually experience pain that then causes like ghosts, like really like... I don't know about that.
robby starbuck
That's pretty far out there for me, but ghosts.
Interesting.
Interesting.
It is wild.
tim pool
Paxton says, Tim is always saying he could call out a bunch of celebrities, why not?
Um, man.
It's up to individuals to- I struggle with this too.
Yeah.
Well for one, so I have a couple people that I consider friends who are extremely famous.
And their attitudes, you know, they don't just come out and be like, I voted for Trump and he's the best.
They come out and they say, I've thought about coming out in support of Trump publicly, but it means that my family
would suffer to a degree that I can't handle.
And then I say, that sounds very cowardly. And they say, there's nothing I can do about it. And it's not, I can't, I
can't be the person to force someone to do that.
robby starbuck
Yeah, a lot of them try to blame it on somebody else.
Like, my spouse just can't deal with it.
You know, I can't do that to her.
That was never part of the deal.
Whatever it is.
And it just, at the end of the day, you know, what you're gonna have to do in the long run is gonna be a lot harder than doing this.
So, you make your choice.
You're gonna have to live with it.
tim pool
One of the biggest musicians in the world having a huge party in Los Angeles with a whole bunch of record execs and
celebrities.
And then they were like, you gotta come out and party, man.
People here are fans.
And I'm just like, I just find that hard to believe because like, why aren't you guys just tweeting to your millions of
followers and just saying enough?
Now, truth be told, these aren't people who are saying the opposite.
They're not coming out and supporting Black Lives Matter or anything like that.
robby starbuck
So that's what I always tell people.
They're like, who's conservative in Hollywood?
I was like, check their social media and see who's not virtue signaling.
99% of the time, they're conservative.
ian crossland
That's actually a very conservative thing to do is not tweet out your thoughts.
tim pool
Not even necessarily conservative.
robby starbuck
Yeah, and that's probably the wrong word, but they're just in general, they're very anti-leftist.
You know, they could be in more libertarian ideology or whatever it is, but they're not fans of the Democratic Party.
tim pool
John L. says, my word for the new system they're trying to push is socio-fascism.
I don't know if that's the right word, though.
ian crossland
Too many words.
tim pool
So let me break it down.
Communism was a specific reference to that time period about controlling the means of production.
But the means of production mean very different things these days.
Fascism was very traditionalist, so it had a lot to do with a rigid traditional authoritarianism.
That's not necessarily what they're doing right now.
There's no strong fascist movement in the United States.
That's a lie.
The media is just pretending there isn't.
There's also not necessarily a singular communist system because you have capital as the means of control, so it's this weird... and it's not capitalism.
robby starbuck
It's the distortion of capitalism.
tim pool
But it's a weird combination of all of the worst elements of communism, fascism, and capitalism, you know, together.
robby starbuck
Fused together, yeah.
And technocracy.
tim pool
Can we call it, like, Neapolitan ice cream-ism?
Or just, like, uh... We do need a name.
Tie-dye-ism?
ian crossland
Coconut ice cream.
robby starbuck
Really bad-ism.
Because that's what we're living through.
ian crossland
I like technocracy.
I'm set on technocracy at the moment.
robby starbuck
I mean, it's a cool word, but it doesn't fully describe it.
You know, I've actually said maybe a better description is we're the American CCP now, because the CCP operates in a similar way.
We're just early in the infancy of it, where, like, they haven't fully come out and been naked, you know, honest about what they really are, but in sort of beginning stages of, like, hey, you know, we're starting to take control of everything and, you know, you better like it.
You know, you're going to own nothing and you're going to be happy about it.
tim pool
Alright, Rocky Service says, Georgia viewers, please call your state senator and demand they pass constitutional carry bill SB 319.
That sounds fantastic, and they say also Bigfoot is real.
Well, if you listen to Chicken City, you'll often hear us complaining about Sasquatch.
ian crossland
Yeah, we live in a relatively sheltered area, so the Sasquatch are safe from predators in this area.
robby starbuck
I'm gonna claim the fifth on this.
I have no information about Sasquatch.
His existence or non-existence, I have no information.
tim pool
Robbie's actually the one who brought Sasquatch over here.
ian crossland
I think Robbie actually is Sasquatch.
robby starbuck
I may have, I may have.
ian crossland
Did you get, like, growing up from Battlestar Galactica references?
robby starbuck
Yes, and thankfully I loved Battlestar Galactica.
I was like, alright, cool, that's fine.
tim pool
All right, C. Hennessy says, Ian, you couldn't discharge your student loans from bankruptcy since 1976.
Written by our current president, Joe Biden, it's only been added to since then.
Oh.
Thanks, Joe Biden.
ian crossland
I thought I remembered George Bush signing some stuff.
robby starbuck
Go ahead, say, let's go, Brandon.
Come on.
ian crossland
LGB.
robby starbuck
Yep.
tim pool
Have y'all super chatted?
Let's go, Brandon.
Everybody should super chat.
Let's go, Brandon.
robby starbuck
I was actually going to say that to you when you said it too, but I was like, you know what?
It seems like he really knows that.
Maybe I'm wrong.
And I was like, no, no, I was right.
You were wrong.
I should never stop myself like that.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Jeremy Thomas says, I canceled everything.
Netflix, Disney Plus, HBO Max.
It's all gone.
Now I sub to TimCast, Daily Wire, and Blaze TV exclusively.
That is awesome.
I deeply appreciate that.
But as much as I can say, like, you should try and get away from these products, I think it's just not realistic in the short term.
And in the short term, we should be saying, everybody should be writing, making comics.
Look, some people are like, how can I write?
How can I make a film?
Just do it.
Just start doing it.
If everybody right now just said, I'll try and make something in five or 10 years, we'll have a ton of crazy stuff.
robby starbuck
We'll flood the zone.
tim pool
Look at It's Always Sunny.
They filmed their pilot with like a cheapo camera.
And they just made it work.
They figured it out.
robby starbuck
This is the most frustrating thing to me.
You know, as a filmmaker, I used to always have people come to me and be like, how can I do what you're doing?
And they'd say, I just can't do it because I don't have access to the cameras and all this stuff.
Um, I'm the child of a penniless refugee.
I did not have some rich family.
I was not part of a Hollywood family.
I got a cheap camera that I worked a minimum wage job to get and then I snuck into shows.
I filmed stuff of artists and I gave it to them and they were like, Oh, this is pretty cool.
Hey, we'll pay you to do something cooler.
And I built a whole multimillion dollar company out of it.
So, you know, if I could do that, you can do it.
And guess what?
You have the luxury of having an iPhone that has a 4k camera on it.
Go make something.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Now they actually have multiple, uh, fields of view.
Yeah.
robby starbuck
Go make something.
You have all the tools you need.
Natural light is a gorgeous thing.
It's one of the most beautiful things that you're given by God as a filmmaker.
Go use it.
ian crossland
What about for audio?
What's the best thing for a young filmmaker to make?
robby starbuck
They have tons of these little microphones you can attach.
You know, and I would record it separately.
Honestly, that would be my, you know, piece of advice.
If you have no money and you're going on like the cheapest bare bones operation, record it separately.
And they've got tons of these little microphones you can use to do it.
Um, just find the cheapest option.
You know, honestly, if you're starting out, don't go, don't go do anything you're going to regret, but go do something.
ian crossland
When you say record separately, that's like, you'll shoot the scene, you record it, and then you, um, you, you do the scene again and then just get the audio.
robby starbuck
Yeah, you'll have the raw audio on whatever you film.
Say it's an iPhone or whatever.
If that's what you're starting on, that's fine.
There's no shame in it.
You can make something amazing with an iPhone.
We've actually shot some music videos with iPhones for certain things.
And then you record the audio separately so you can match the raw audio with that.
Usually do something like a clap to make sure your time's on.
But yeah, just go for it.
Make something.
I agree with Tim on that, but we disagree on the Netflix thing.
I say cancel it.
Cancel all of it.
Cancel all these people who hate you.
tim pool
I'm not saying don't cancel.
I'm just saying it's unrealistic to think you're going to get a mass movement of people instantly canceling.
Because, like I was saying, I personally don't have Netflix.
I got rid of it over the Cuties and the Big Mouth thing.
Those scandals.
robby starbuck
And we affected their stock prices during the Cuties thing.
Big time.
tim pool
But there's a lot of people here who have it, so it's on the TVs already.
I don't know who these people are, these names.
robby starbuck
Fire them.
ian crossland
I don't like the they-hate-you rhetoric.
robby starbuck
Throw them in the moat.
ian crossland
I got that a lot, where they're like, these companies hate you because they don't know who I am, or maybe they do, but I got a lot of this for the war in Iraq.
They were like, They hate us for our freedoms.
Hey, Ian, just so you know, they hate you.
I got a lot of being told that other people hate me.
So, like, I don't like that as a marketing technique.
robby starbuck
Well, it's not even a mark—it's just reality.
So, from having lived in that world and been around people in Hollywood and the way they think about the country, they hate us.
They do.
They hate normal people.
ian crossland
Like a disregard, like a plebiscite.
robby starbuck
Yes, 100%.
It's a total disregard.
We're a different class.
And the thing that always bothered me about this is I was the only person kind of speaking up against it because I didn't grow up like they grew up.
Most of the people who are executives in Hollywood, they're from Hollywood families or they were raised rich.
I wasn't.
So I come from this different background that's like, hey, you totally have no idea what you're talking about, guys.
But they just have naked disregard for how normal people live their lives.
And they do genuinely hate them if they had the choice of, I get to continue my life as it is and the power I have and the money I have.
But to have that, I need to destroy all these people and everything they love.
They'd press a button in a heartbeat.
unidentified
Alright.
tim pool
Harley Chuck says, Tim, you are not a centrist.
You are right-wing on the culture war.
Have more left-wingers on instead of this circle jerk.
Oh, no, no.
I shouldn't have said that last one because I remember someone emailed saying, like, my child asked me what that meant.
A circle of jerks.
ian crossland
You're growing up, my friends.
robby starbuck
Nobody likes jerks.
tim pool
You know, when we have on, who did we have on?
We had on, was it Royce?
When we talked about redlining and blockbusting and the remnants of racist policies that affected the United States.
Yeah, you don't get that typically from conservative audiences.
And I get called a leftist by conservatives and I get called a right-winger by the left.
robby starbuck
You actually, last time you asked me a lot of stuff that was not like typical wheelhouse, you know, stuff.
It was like, hey, let's think outside the box on this, you know?
tim pool
I just think that if you're on the left and you look to your right, you'll see me and a bunch of conservatives.
If you're on your right and you look to your left, you'll see me and then, you know, slightly further away, the leftists, to be completely honest.
But it's not an issue of right or left.
It's an issue of truth or not.
So like, did Joe Biden engage in illicit business dealings in Ukraine?
That's a fact.
It's like, at this point, it's not even a dispute.
robby starbuck
You're just dealing in facts.
tim pool
I mean, the Hunter Biden laptop's confirmed by New York Times.
The emails within it show that there was nefarious family dealings.
Joe Biden, shortly after, you know, Burisma is telling Hunter Biden, like, we got to end these investigations.
Joe Biden goes and gets the investigations ended.
You gotta be a certain kind of special if you're like, those have nothing to do with each other.
robby starbuck
You have to be a major apologist.
tim pool
They shared bank accounts.
Joe and Hunter shared ba- come on.
And so the problem is, you'll listen to CNN, and they'll be like, there's no evidence, it's true.
And they'll be like, okay, they said it, so it's true.
It's like, bro, when we talk about these things, I pull this stuff up.
robby starbuck
And that is why you are a right-wing extremist.
You're pulling up facts.
tim pool
Telling the truth.
robby starbuck
How dare you.
tim pool
Geez, man.
All right.
Sid Henry says, Tim, can we go grab Korean barbecue in Northern VA and make fun of woke people with you and the Timcast crew?
Maybe CSGO after.
Uh, you know what?
Maybe we usually like we'll go and grab dinner like every other weekend with like a bunch of people from the house.
The people who want to go.
I shouldn't say from the house, but from the from the company.
People also don't seem to understand.
This is the weirdest thing.
There's an assumption that people live here when there's like four people who live in the house out of like 30 employees.
And it's like half of that is me, you know?
But they're like, all the people must live there.
It's like, it's an office, man.
There's like, one of the rooms is just a bunch of computers.
The basement is just work stuff.
There's a skate park here.
But, you know, people typically do not live here.
They have houses and their own apartments.
It's more like an office building.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Let's see.
Patrick Reed says you and Mark Levin should simulcast your 8 o'clock hours as you are both on live at that time.
That would be a good show.
It would take some coordination to make it happen, but it would be cool.
Maybe.
I don't know.
We don't do dial-in shows, and I think the Jon Stewart-Andrew Sullivan show is a really good example of why.
I think, you know, everyone's roasting Jon Stewart for making an episode called The Problem with White People, because Jon Stewart's totally fallen.
Oh, yeah.
robby starbuck
It's sad.
tim pool
But Andrew Sullivan, I think, did a really bad job.
A really, really bad job.
He was not prepared for any real conversation about systemic racism, critical race theory.
And so he just looked confused, in my opinion.
And then he got called racist.
The whole thing was just awful.
You know, he should not have gone on the show.
robby starbuck
To be completely honest, if you get hit up, Anybody any personality gets hit up by any talk show and they're like we would like an expert on woke issues to come And have a debate you'd be like oh, yeah, you know the wrong person James Lindsay his email you can go talk to them exactly man Narcissism gets in the way of good decisions all the time, and that's one example of it You know I always see it with CNN like CNN has an absolute
pattern that they kind of project out when they go and book guests and it's
let's find the person who is the least qualified to answer these questions
who's a Republican and let's bring them on to answer them you know and they
do that to make us look stupid. They never bring on the people who could go
and just shred them on the issues. Yeah I'd like to see more Chris Rufo.
ian crossland
I remember him giving a pretty explicit... Rufo's awesome.
...succinct explanations and then I haven't seen them as much as I'd like to.
robby starbuck
Yep.
tim pool
Jerome Morrow says, one of your Will of the People sequels could be post-Nuke when the Timcast crew have moved into the underground bunker and then evolved into Chuds.
Well, I will say that the two songs, because I'm not going to give you the full storyboards that we have for them already, that are nearing completion.
The first one is a song about an insular moment in the revolution between a father and his son.
And the second one is about a kid who, you know, grows up in civil war and dreams of escaping and fleeing and there's, like, the stories have, they basically have some sort of twist.
Well, the one about his dad and his son, I'll just say this, the storyboard is like memento.
You ever see the movie Memento?
Then the next one is just a story with a great revelation.
Following the last one, let me just say, post-apocalyptic is absolutely in the works for what we're writing.
That's always fun.
Because if you watch Will of the People, the song, you can see the time technological advancements.
The first scene is a little kid, there's posters.
The last scene is TVs and computers because we're showing, you know, time is advancing.
Which means there will come a point when war in this cycle eventually results in the I'll just say this.
Fermi's Paradox, the great filter.
We've got a lot of plans for all these songs.
I think we've got like 40 songs.
So this is what we do.
We're putting together these ideas of what's going to follow this.
There's like 40 different songs, and there's probably like 100 different riffs and chord progressions.
And then we start dropping off and eliminating.
Like, we don't like these ones.
These are not as good as these ones.
This one's way better.
And then we end up keeping like 10.
But in terms of the actual songs, we have a lot of songs.
You know, because a lot of them are simple pop structure songs, and some of them are more complicated.
But that's how it goes.
You know, I don't want to reveal too much about our plans.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's how I feel about it too.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't like saying things.
robby starbuck
You're like Trump in that way.
tim pool
Well, this is what really bothers me about what's happening with the Muse video.
What I've shown already is not even the extent to which, you know, outside of the video, I personally feel it was a shot-for-shot remake.
robby starbuck
Yeah.
tim pool
It was like if someone was going to make a live movie version of Our Will of the People, they made it the same thing.
Theirs is called Will of the People.
It shows hooded figures throwing ropes to pull down statues.
robby starbuck
That's literally... I feel your frustration.
The number of times my work has been stolen by major labels and huge artists Is massive but the problem is is in my case I was always signing deals with these major labels and they buy you out basically of your rights and so you can't go sue over it but you can.
tim pool
Yeah I own all the rights and people need to understand like Some people have said, you don't own this individual idea, this individual idea.
It's like, that's not what happens in court.
When you go to court, they look at the full picture.
Like, if you baked a cake, and then it was, you know, the collection of all the different kinds of icing.
Sure, I don't own the idea of icing, but we made this one particular thing grouped together.
But I want to stress another point.
I can't reveal literally every single thing about what's going on behind the scenes.
But I just want to say, what we've talked about in terms of what they did copy, It's not even the full picture because they've copied more and I have to have lawyer meetings.
It appears that they copied just more than the artistic work, the business strategy around it.
There's other elements that we've already identified.
First of all, people have already looked at the videos and been like, yeah, come on.
Yeah.
Same color scheme, same character depictions, same throwing of ropes, same name.
And then there's also business elements that are extremely similar.
And not to mention the weird thing about they posted it on my birthday.
Yeah.
Which is weird, but I don't want to get too much into that.
ian crossland
That's awesome, dude.
tim pool
Cause we have, we have some, but yeah.
robby starbuck
The birthday thing may be the limit.
ian crossland
I swear the guy watched the show and was like, I love that.
I love Tim Pool.
robby starbuck
I need to know his birthday.
That is our release date.
tim pool
Is it normal to announce an album five months before releasing it?
robby starbuck
No.
No, that's weird.
tim pool
That's weird?
robby starbuck
That's a tornado.
tim pool
What is that?
Tornado warning?
robby starbuck
Yeah, not for here.
For Tennessee.
tim pool
Be safe, everyone.
I don't know this, but you've done a lot of work in music and music videos and all that stuff, and you're saying it's strange for a band to do an album announcement five months before release?
robby starbuck
Yes, yeah.
tim pool
You see, they announced the album five months before they're putting it out, and they announced it on my birthday.
robby starbuck
That is weird.
I will say that is weird.
That's a that's a long time before you put an album out.
Now, would artists know they're going to do that five minutes in advance?
Yes, but that's always kept, you know, quiet.
And it's something that it's in the planning stages, you know, where we're meeting with the label and going through, OK, what what are we going to do?
What's the creative on this going to be?
You know, it doesn't happen like that where you publicly go out.
tim pool
I wish I could say more because there's a lot more than just this, but there's certain creative elements that are publicly available that we've published that are also, in my opinion, I see it as identical.
So it's not just this one video, it's our business development around it.
And then five months before the album comes out, they post it on my birthday with the name and the same video.
robby starbuck
And that's crazy.
Right, right, right.
tim pool
Yeah.
So we've got to figure that one out.
And there's a lot of crazy stuff happening.
And we put our video out.
We launched this project November 2nd, 2020, and we were working on it before then.
And the first time I ever played the song publicly, Actually, the first time I played the song publicly may have been like six, five years ago when I was writing it.
But the first time the full version of the song was played was June 19th, 2020.
So this is before the artistic development.
But then let me just say that the entirety of the project, it's not just this one video that people need to look at.
And we'll have to talk about it when we talk about it.
But so far, all we've done is mention it.
robby starbuck
There's going to be a larger story here.
That's what you're saying.
tim pool
Well, yeah, I think there's stuff we're working on behind the scenes, and there's stuff that is publicly available.
But how do I say this?
Not something you can pull up and look for, but is available to the public with hundreds of thousands of views, which is like, yo.
robby starbuck
Maybe a little sus.
tim pool
Yeah, like, like very, very, very, very, you know, there's, there's, there's, there's a lot going on.
robby starbuck
Would I be the first member of Congress, you know, at least on the Republican side that said sus?
Probably.
unidentified
All right, all right, all right.
tim pool
We got to go to that member segment.
So instead of just harping on about, you know, music and stuff, you can check out Will of the People by searching it on YouTube.
And check out the music video if you haven't seen it.
It's a short film, so you've got to watch with intent because there's a lot of key story elements in there that we're using for the projects as we move forward.
Like, the character's name is easily discernible.
You can figure out who our protagonist antagonist is.
So check that out.
You can also check out Chicken City if you want to watch chicken sleeping right now or throughout the day.
You can follow me at TimCast.
You can follow the show at TimCastIRL.
Head over to TimCast.com and become a member because we're going to post that members-only show at just about an hour or so.
Robbie, did you want to shout out social media or anything else?
Website?
robby starbuck
Yeah, definitely.
Starbuck2022.com if you want to get involved in the campaign.
We need people to volunteer from all over the country, make phone calls.
If you live in Tennessee, we need you to doorknock with me.
But donations matter a lot because I'm not taking that corporate money So people-powered grassroots matters and if you want people who are actually gonna shake up and change the system You got to put something behind it, you know, and that's time money energy, whatever you can do But then on social media you can find me everywhere at Robbie Starbuck ROBBY Starbuck And when you guys go over that will the people Tim pool video leave a comment with my name on it Here's a random fun fact.
ian crossland
I have some harmonies for that song that I didn't record.
tim pool
Just, it was a people.
ian crossland
Yeah, go to Tim's video and just be like, hey, Ian sent me, put it in the comments.
tim pool
Well, Ian's got harmonies in Bright Eyes.
ian crossland
Dude, I got harmonies on Will the People, but we recorded it before I had them fleshed out.
So when we play it live, I have a few that are pretty cool.
robby starbuck
It's very good.
Here's a random fun fact.
In the last album of the used, there's some background vocals of me
on a couple of the songs because I was at John Feldman's house
while they were recording it.
And I forgot what we were even meeting about, but me and my wife, Landon, our vocals are on there.
Hers more prominently, she actually is like singing something, you know,
just herself.
She was like doing something with Burp, but.
Yeah, that's a random fact.
Random info.
Her name's on the album.
Mine's not, though.
ian crossland
Yeah, Bright Eyes is clutch.
I mean, I sang on that one pretty overtly, and man, it sounds nice.
That's blended.
Carter is a genius.
Thank you, Carter.
tim pool
Bright Eyes, you said?
ian crossland
Yeah, Bright Eyes is hot.
tim pool
Yeah, it's getting good.
ian crossland
Oh, it's good.
Pete is just an amazing drummer, man.
lydia smith
He is that.
We really enjoyed having him as well.
Thank you very much for coming this evening, Robbie Starbuck.
unidentified
Starbuck.
robby starbuck
She's going to Battlestar Galactica.
ian crossland
Starbuck.
robby starbuck
Thank you for coming, Starbuck.
I was just thinking about coffee.
lydia smith
I'm sorry.
Please don't blame me.
You guys may follow me on Twitter and Minds.com at Sarah Patchlitz.
I also have my own little site called SarahPatchlitz.me.
tim pool
We will see all of you over at TimCast.com.
Thanks for hanging out.
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