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Timcast IRL - Biden CAUGHT On Hot Mic Swearing At Fox Reporter Over Inflation w/Delano Squires
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tim pool
Quite possibly the biggest news of the day is that Joe Biden's got 8,500 troops on heightened alert.
There's a plan for deployment of up to 50,000 troops into Eastern Europe, and we're going to war, baby.
Well, I don't know if we're actually going to go to war, but a lot of people think that's where we're going to end up.
Now, that's really, really important news, but That's kind of it.
That's where we're at with it.
And so we didn't necessarily think it made sense to just lead with breaking news war.
Let's talk about something else.
So, you know, I'll mention it here.
We are definitely going to talk about it because we have to get into the Biden administration and his failures.
And our lead story is actually that Biden was caught on a hot mic calling Peter Doocy a stupid SOB.
He didn't say SOB, he actually said son of a bitch.
And wow.
It was about inflation.
And I think this story is important because it shows that Joe Biden, the Democrats, understand inflation is really bad.
Because Biden made a comment about it being bad.
And this says to me, they know.
They know that they are presiding over a disaster.
And now we can see the emperor with no clothes.
I know we've used that analogy 50 billion times.
But we'll talk about that.
We also got to talk about Barry Weiss on Bill Maher's show and the response to it.
Not that I actually want to, to be honest, because I think, you know, my point I made on Twitter was that You and I, all of you watching, and the guests we've had on the show, are having these conversations that Bill Maher's having now.
We had them over a year ago.
And so we need to start asserting ourselves.
We can set the news cycle.
You guys can decide what the news is.
You can tweet about it.
You can say, I don't care to talk about a show that's a year late to the party.
It's still good.
They're talking about it, though.
So we'll definitely get into all that stuff.
And I really want to talk about Matt Walsh on Dr. Phil.
So we got all of those stories.
Plus, we will be talking about war in Eastern Europe.
And joining us today... Oh, actually, before I announce our awesome guest, I just want to let everybody know that Luke is not here.
He has left.
He got scared because of everything going on, and, you know, he's not here to defend himself over these charges, so that's a shame.
But joining us as a replacement for Luke is none other than Anthony Fauci.
This is Bobblehead.
There he is.
Just sitting there.
And you can see his head bobbling back and forth.
ian crossland
I am the science.
tim pool
I am the science.
No, we're hanging out with Delano Squires.
delano squires
Thank you for having me, guys.
tim pool
You want to introduce yourself, man?
unidentified
Sure.
delano squires
My name is Delano Squires.
I'm a contributor for The Blaze.
Regular guest on Fearless with Jason Whitlock.
Appear twice a week, write twice a week for The Blaze.
Talk about everything.
Culture, politics, faith.
And I'm glad to be here.
Thanks for having me back.
tim pool
Yeah, absolutely, man.
Second time here.
We're glad to have you.
delano squires
For sure.
tim pool
We got Ian.
ian crossland
What's up, everybody?
Ian Croson in the house.
I am sad that Luke is gone.
He had to visit Dagobah.
I believe that there was a Jedi Master that he needs to get a little bit of training from.
In the meantime, though, if you want to pick up one of these awesome shirts from thebestpoliticalshirts.com and support Luke Rutkowski and We Are Change, do it.
unidentified
Do it.
Do it.
lydia smith
Yeah, I saw a comment in the chat saying that Luke was invading Ukraine.
I hope this is not the case.
My understanding is that he's going to Florida, so hopefully he's not causing trouble over in Eastern Europe.
tim pool
Luke looks like Bill Maher and he looks like Putin.
ian crossland
I love it.
unidentified
Isn't that weird?
lydia smith
It's true.
ian crossland
That's so great.
tim pool
Ian's like, that's great.
ian crossland
I don't know why that is great.
The history of Poland, man.
I don't know.
They got that Polish blood in them.
Those guys, I don't know, Slavic or... Is Bill Maher Polish?
unidentified
I don't know.
ian crossland
I bet he is.
lydia smith
Maybe.
tim pool
I don't know, man.
Let's do this.
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Smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, and now, let's talk about Joe Biden caught on hot mic calling Peter Doocy a stupid son of a bitch for asking about inflation.
You know, I don't know how many times I can say the emperor has no clothes.
The New York Post reports, President Biden called Fox News White House correspondent Peter Doocy a stupid son of a bitch Monday after he asked about Biden.
He asked Biden about soaring inflation.
Wow.
Do you think inflation is a political liability?
Doocy asked Biden as the press was ushered out of an event in the White House East Room.
Now, I think it's fair to say Biden didn't realize he was actually responding.
I think he thought the mic was off or whatever.
He says, no, it's a great asset, more inflation.
What a stupid son of a bitch Biden sneered into a hot mic.
The president's vulgar insult was cut from the White House video feed, but was audible on C-SPAN.
Doocy's question about inflation came after a Fox News poll released Sunday found that 85% of Americans are worried about inflation, which hit a 40-year high of 7% in December.
Now, look, Joe Biden, this is a great question from Peter Doocy, because Joe Biden is presiding over massive inflation.
If he was actually pressed on this in an open setting, you know, Peter Doocy is like walking out of the room, all the reporters are yelling, Joe Biden would have to deflect or defend rampant inflation.
ian crossland
Or say, yeah, it is.
What was the phrasing?
Is it politically... A political liability.
For him to say, yeah, it is a political liability, but you gotta understand it's bigger than the presidency.
Like, he could be honest about it.
tim pool
I suppose.
ian crossland
Good luck.
tim pool
But he wouldn't.
Jen Psaki wouldn't.
When Joe Biden questioned the legitimacy of the midterm, Jen Psaki claimed he was talking about Trump.
unidentified
Like, what?
tim pool
No, Joe Biden said that.
But here's why I think it's so important.
Because you've got this from CNN, why inflation can actually be good for everyday Americans and bad for rich people.
Yo, I think regular people are just, every day, it's a bucket of ice water thrown in their face.
Because imagine you're somebody who's, you know, you're probably not that smart, to be honest, if you believe this stuff from CNN.
And I think, I'm saying that because I'm confident nobody who watches this show is stupid enough to believe the lies coming out of this inflation stuff with like, inflation's actually good for you.
But imagine you are somebody.
Okay, I don't want to be too mean to these guys.
Let's imagine, you know, these people are ignorant.
They read this story and they're like, oh, I get it.
That makes sense.
And then you hear Joe Biden call someone a stupid son of a bitch for asking if it was a liability.
He said, no.
And you're like, wait a minute.
But, you know, CNN, these media outlets are telling me it's not bad.
Why would Biden get so angry over this?
Hey, maybe they're lying to you guys.
Yeah, what do you think?
delano squires
I mean, at the end of the day, whether viewers and readers are politically astute or not, when you go to the store and a pack of bacon that used to cost you $6 now costs $9, and the price of gas is going up, the price of eggs and milk, if you can even find them on the shelves, I think that's where most people feel it, right?
They feel it in their pocketbooks.
And a lot of the political debates that are popular in Washington Again, these pocketbook issues are really, I think, what drive voters, particularly if they feel like the president is the one that's causing it.
If his policies are causing it, then I definitely think it's a political liability.
And I think that's why he responded so sarcastically in saying, oh, no, it's a great, it's an asset.
I think he knows.
tim pool
I've been feeling pretty good lately, you know, watching watching Joe Biden gaffe and like poop his pants and kind of stuff like that.
Because, you know, when he says stuff like this, but regular people are experiencing the problems, it shows like it's like you said, the debates in Washington.
They're so out of touch with America.
delano squires
Oh yeah, for sure.
tim pool
Like a few years ago, the way I described it was like, there's this giant maelstrom, this big whirlpool that we're all stuck in, but it's shrinking and spinning faster and faster, and we're getting ejected from it.
Like, regular people were getting thrown from the mainstream over having questions, being like, hey, I don't understand this particular policy while you're doing it.
Oh, you're far right, get out!
It's like, okay, I'm out, I'm gone.
Now it feels like the political elite and the establishment media types are in this tiny little section, spinning in circles, screaming at the top of their lungs.
Nobody's there anymore.
Nobody cares about their debates or their arguments.
They know it's all busted up.
So I was actually going to ask you this.
I was going to say, how long until the war in Ukraine with Russia makes everyone forget all about this?
But no, that's why I said I've been feeling good, because I don't think they will.
I think we're at a point where our generation, they're not going to be sucked up into the manipulation through war.
ian crossland
You know what I mean?
I saw this video of this girl, I think it was in England, crying about the masks and what it had done to her generation.
This was devastating.
And this is something every human, I think, should see this at some point.
I think that the trauma that's been imposed on people because of this COVID masking mandate stuff is no one will ever forget this.
That this is now part of the human experience.
To see this happen to a society and God willing that we make sure it doesn't happen again unnecessarily.
I'm hoping that that's the case.
delano squires
Yeah.
So, I mean, I had a recent article in The Blaze where I talked about COVID-19 has unleashed a new era in sort of American political and social life.
So, you know, we obviously, early on in our country's history, we had a colonial period and Civil War, Reconstruction, Jim Crow.
I mean, Jim Crow, civil rights.
I call this the era of the God King.
And I think the, as I call it, the unholy trinity of big government, big business, big media have completely inverted our political system.
So instead of them seeing themselves as serving our interests, They see us as serving their interests.
And that's why they get so upset and so vicious whenever any of us have the audacity to question them.
So it's no longer the consent of the governed.
It's, no, we tell you what to think.
Don't question us.
As you said, if you do question us, oh, you must be all right.
It's just like, no, I just want to know why my two-year-old has to wear a mask while you guys go out and drink margaritas and, you know, go to Taibo maskless.
Like, I think those are legitimate questions, but I mean, you see this from Washington every day and the craziest part of it is how many liberals, leftists, self-proclaimed progressives have lined up behind it.
Like, I'm from a generation, like I look at sports, where the media, particularly sports media, would reflexively take the side of players over management regardless of the dispute.
But now you got guys like Stephen A. Smith is saying, No, Kyrie Irving is a bad teammate.
He's terrible.
You know, and you have analysts on ESPN who I know will never question the narrative that's being, you know, pushed down from on high.
And these guys are tools.
Howard Stern, same thing.
tim pool
Oh yeah, dude.
delano squires
I used to watch the Howard Stern show.
I mean, this guy.
tim pool
Didn't he call Oprah fat recently?
He did, he doesn't like that.
It does cross my mind.
But it's funny how, you know, Howard Stern used to be edgy and anti-establishment.
Now he's, he could not, if he licked boot more...
He'd be getting to the foot.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
He'd be like, he'd be licking the straight foot.
Cause he's just getting right there.
There was like, Oprah had this party and then it was so against the establishment COVID narrative that he started mocking Oprah and going after Oprah.
I'm like, wow, man, that's pretty brazen to go after Oprah.
Cause she's like, you know, she's the queen of culture or was for a long time.
delano squires
So you can see where he he's finally found his line.
Right.
It's not, you know, Chucking little people through the air is not, you know, getting strippers on TV to talk about the types of things they do in the bedroom.
It's if you disobey Dr. Fauci's COVID, you know, mandates and you're a terrible person, you're a terrible American, and I hope you die.
And it's like, where did all of this come from?
ian crossland
I think he's a good example of like someone panicking.
It's less about like, I'm angry you're not following the mandates.
It seems to be more he's about, I'm afraid of getting sick.
And so he's like in this frazzled, wild state of yelling at people to do what they're told.
I don't know, man.
delano squires
See, but this goes against nature, right?
Pack animals never put the most neurotic, most afraid, you know, sort of animal at the front.
Those guys got to go to the back.
But we're being led by the anxious, the fearful, the neurotic, the docile, the gelded, and they're the ones telling everybody else what needs to be done.
ian crossland
Is this because of generational wealth?
tim pool
I think, I think it's a cultural issue.
I think that, um, we've been too comfortable for too long.
You know, uh, you, you've got the concept of the fourth, the fourth, the fourth turning, you know, stress out generational theory.
You've got, you know, strong men make good times.
All that's, you know, those aren't familiar with it.
Strong men make good times, good times, make weak men, weak men, make hard times, hard times, make strong men.
I think we're just in the weak men phase where you've got like the Try Guys on Buzzy with no testosterone.
And I mean, it's, but I'm not saying to be mean to him, you know what I mean?
But it's true, right?
Yeah, so I was thinking about this too.
I did a segment on the low testosterone generation because, you know, there's stories going back 10, 20 years about how the testosterone levels are rapidly declining.
They think it might be the plastics leaching into food or something.
ian crossland
Antibiotics could be.
tim pool
It could be antibiotics, it could be women's birth control in the water supply, and then getting recycled or something like that.
It could be soy consumption being put on.
ian crossland
Except they spray the soy with before they harvest it.
Glyphosates.
tim pool
There's phytoestrogens in soy, and there's two arguments about this.
One is that phytoestrogens being weaker than estrogen will block your estrogen receptors and actually have a lower impact as opposed to your natural estrogen, because men have estrogen in their body.
Right.
When you're getting constantly slammed and inundated with a weaker form of investor and it could have an impact.
So I don't exactly know the reason, but I will tell you, I think that's a contributing factor to an overly feminized society, which results in people unwilling to take the risks required to fix a broken system.
That kind of mentality or imbalance results in despotism.
It results in, you know, someone like Joe Biden.
It results in these leaders that say, you know, you can't challenge them.
You can't take the risk because, you know, this is my personal view based on, you know, research and things like that.
You know, men, this is a fact, men tend to take more risks.
Women tend not to.
So if you have a well-balanced society between men and women, you know, the feminine, the masculine, then you're going to be well off because the guy, you're going to get some crazy guy who's like, I say we jump off the cliff and then try and I'll try and grab onto a guy who's got a parachute.
And then you might have a woman who's gonna be like, I think that's a crazy risk.
I don't think you should do it.
And then maybe talk the guys back a little bit from going too crazy.
But now we're getting just, it's imbalanced.
It's shifting all into the feminine, which is, it's toxic femininity.
ian crossland
So you'll end up with people who are unwilling to challenge system unwilling to speak out they don't want to go against social order It's too risky stay the course and the storm will all blow over I've got this feeling that I really have a lot of respect for a self-made man someone that comes from either medium or low means and then makes a great empire or a career and that's where I feel like with generational wealth that Weak young men are getting, inheriting a large amount of power.
And then because they have the power, they have the TV channel and little kids then see them and think that's normal.
And they don't, they're too afraid to take any risks.
They don't want to lose what they've had their whole life.
Whereas when you come from less than nothing or like not much, there's nothing really to lose.
You just give it your all.
I mean, what else?
That's how you got here in the first place.
tim pool
I think, I think that makes sense.
Like if you look at this show, you know, I don't care.
delano squires
I mean, I definitely think there's something to that, right?
The generation that builds the wealth and hands it on to the next generation, like that next generation, sometimes they can manage and steward, but by the time you get to the third or fourth, I mean, they're all about squandering it because they didn't work for it.
So it doesn't mean as much to them.
I remember, again, the very first column I wrote for The Blaze, I juxtaposed, and this was sort of, you know, swimming in the mainstream of culture, I juxtaposed an artist like Megan Thee Stallion, right?
She had a song with Cardi B, WAP, and that was a big thing in conservative circles and how vulgar it was.
And then I said, here you have Megan Thee Stallion, so stallions are uncut horses, wild, uncontrollable.
And then you have the cultural geldings, all of the men who would be too afraid to say anything critical about Megan Thee Stallion in public.
And these are guys who Again, oftentimes work for corporate media and academia.
If somebody like me says, look, I don't want my daughter ingesting this crap because it's garbage.
And if the 90s, particularly as it relates to hip hop, was about keeping the boys out of the gangs, then the 2000s and the 2020s are going to be keeping the girls off of OnlyFans.
And I know exactly the type of men who would come up and criticize me for that.
Right?
And I think our country is being led by those types of men.
tim pool
White knights?
delano squires
There it is.
White knights.
For sure.
For sure.
And I think 2022 needs to be the year that we get rid of white knights, honestly.
tim pool
But it's a combination.
So Vox.com had an article I reference often that about 70% of millennial women are Democrats.
So they're all voting.
And then you get about slightly more millennial men are Republican.
I think the men, for the most part, not completely.
I think there's two parent trees in the Democrat voter base.
The ignorant, default liberal types, and the exploitative.
I think the right and the Republicans have that exploitation as well, but whatever the cultural right tends to be right now, it's an eclectic bunch of varying political ideologies.
I don't know how you describe it.
But among the Democrats, you've got people who are like, I'm gonna say whatever I have to to this woman so that she comes over to my apartment and gives me what I want.
And so they're just like, yeah, whatever you say.
Oh, of course.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And then you've got regular people who are just like, seems that this is what everybody wants.
delano squires
Right.
tim pool
So I'm going to vote for it.
And then you've got people who are willing to challenge, go against the grain, risk things, risk their careers, and they're going to speak up and say no.
But that's why I said there's an imbalance, because the willingness to take risks for the betterment of society is really low.
delano squires
Yeah.
tim pool
It may not have anything to do with testosterone.
It may have to do with luxury.
Like, life is just too good, man.
You can order pizza off the internet, you know what I mean?
lydia smith
I think it really has to do with too much free time.
We have too much free time because we have disposable income, and when we have free time, we get into our own heads, we become very self-centered, we become very narcissistic, and if you don't have children, and if you don't have fulfilling familial relationships, you're going to kind of fall apart, because humans demand that kind of structure.
Like, we really don't do well without one another.
tim pool
It's crazy.
COVID has opened my eyes, man, to that there are followers and there are shepherds in their sheep.
There are people who are like, yo, just tell me what to do.
And there are people who are literally, don't you dare tell me what to do.
And let me do this.
Let me pull up the New York Post story we got and we'll get into this one.
New York Post quote, I'm done with COVID.
Barry Weiss on Bill Maher sparks controversy.
Not to us!
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Because like we've been, I'm done with COVID.
I think I said that like four or five months ago.
And then I got COVID and I got made fun of for it.
No, but it's it's the insanity of the restrictions.
So on Friday, on Bill Maher's show, Barry Weiss, she said, I'm done.
I'm done with COVID.
She said, I sprayed the Pringles cans.
I bought at every grocery store.
I stripped my clothes off because I thought COVID would be on my clothes.
I watched Tiger King.
I got to the end of Spotify.
We all did it.
I love that.
We all did it.
Yo, I'm sure a lot of these liberals did.
So here's, this is interesting.
This is a mainstream corporate press show, Bill Maher.
Bill Maher's always been kind of, you know, he's always been in line with the left and the culture war, but he's been, he challenges that every so often, but he's late to the party, he gets things wrong.
So here I am, I see this going viral.
First and most important thing, good news.
Regular liberals who watch Bill Maher are now cheering for this.
When Barry Weiss has said that what's happening to our kids will be seen as a moral crime, you know, I'm done with this, everyone's clapping and cheering.
Bill Maher opened the show by saying, he called the vaccine a virtue signal.
That was crazy to me.
He said, your first dose, it's like, I can't remember the exact joke, but he was like, it comes in three doses, your first series, your booster, and your virtue signal.
And then everyone, they laugh or whatever.
And so I'm like, this is really, really good.
And I want to make sure that's clear to everybody, because I'm going to criticize a bit of everybody.
It's good that we're watching regular people wake up to this stuff.
It's good that we're seeing people realize you've got to do something about this.
We can't just sit back and let the country fall apart.
The stores are going... It's been two years, right?
But we've had this conversation a year ago.
We had this conversation a year and a half ago.
And my concern is just this.
To all of the independent media types, the podcasters, the Twitter posters, the journalists who have listened to this show, have listened to Steven Crowder, who have listened to Jimmy Dore.
Jimmy Dore and Crowder talked about these things before we even did.
So let's realize, for one, we were all right.
What's the joke?
Conspiracy theories, 597.
Mainstream media, zero.
We talked about it first.
We were right.
We need to have more confidence in ourselves.
We need to basically say to the likes of Bill Maher, But amongst ourselves is, we need to set our own news cycle.
We shouldn't sit back and be like, well, did Bill Maher talk about it?
That's when it matters.
No, no, no, we need to start acting like the conversations we've already had.
Again, like Jimmy Dore, Crowder, Sticks, Hex and Hammer, all these other independent channels, I've already had a long time ago.
And when you go out to a restaurant, when you go out to, I'll tell you this, there was that big breaking story where the CDC lady, I think it was, said, there's a difference between dying from COVID and dying with COVID.
CNN picks it up and goes crazy.
Yo, we talked about that a year and a half ago.
So when you're out at the bar, and someone's saying, yeah, but did you hear how many people, you know, died today?
You can go, yeah, I mean, but you're not conflating with and for.
I mean, that was, they've already explained that.
Don't you watch, don't you pay attention?
Just stop acting like CNN is who should be setting the news cycle.
That's what I'm saying.
delano squires
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, as you said, some of these things have been around.
I mean, there was an early period in COVID when nobody really knew what was going on.
And then once we got to like mid, you know, Summer 2020, things started to become clearer.
I think a lot of people lost faith in our institutions and our public health officials.
I'll say what happened for me.
When those 1,200 public health experts signed the letter that said, protests for racial justice are A-OK during COVID at a moment when people still couldn't even go to work.
And then at the end of the letter, it says, this is not to be confused for support of protests that are against lockdown measures.
tim pool
I remember that.
delano squires
I said, okay, I'm done.
And I think a lot of people were done at that point too.
tim pool
So if you're a sheep, you're sitting there being like, shout out to Ethan Klein, H3 podcast, when he said, you don't even got to think about it.
I think that's what he said, right?
Like, you don't even got to think about it.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
I never saw him say it.
I've heard you mention it a few times.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's like, I guess on his podcast, he mentioned, you can go to the CDC website.
You don't even got to think about it.
They just tell you.
And it's like maybe you do but hey look I'm not saying there's anything wrong with being a sheep. I
want to make sure that's clear I'm not I'm not insulting people for being sheep. There are
a lot of people I'm good friends of mine, and I've had really interesting
philosophical discussions where I've had people say would I rather
Be the one who's in charge of organizing all of these people
Would I rather sit back, crack a beer, and watch the game and say, I'm going to enjoy life and enjoy my ignorance.
I'm like, yo, I can get, I get that.
Yeah.
I can, I can respect wanting to revel in ignorance.
I can understand that.
Personally, I should say this.
When I say respect it, I mean, I get that feeling.
I understand.
Personally, I think people need to, if they're cognizant of what's going on, speak up and stand up.
There are a lot of people who don't view it that way, and maybe don't have the ability to see what's really going on, and maybe just think to themselves, look, I wake up, I go to work, I try to feed my kids, I come home, I turn the TV on, they tell me what's up, and that's all I care about.
delano squires
I mean, there are instances, for instance, right?
I'm a Christian.
So in the scriptures, it talks about, you know, Jesus is the good shepherd.
But part of what pastors are supposed to do is shepherd their flocks, right?
So in that context, I get, you know, a shepherd who feeds his sheep.
But in that context, the shepherd is working under the authority of the good shepherd And they're feeding from a source that provides all the nutrients that any of the sheep would need, right?
That's different than what we have.
We have awful shepherds.
We have shepherds in wolf's clothing, which is worse than a sheep in wolf's clothing.
Because if you get a sheep in wolf's clothing, The wolf may get one or two sheep before the rest scatter, but a shepherd in wolf's clothing will take all of them over the hill and none of them will know the difference.
tim pool
Wait, I think you're mixing it up.
ian crossland
Wolf in shepherd's clothing?
Shepherd in wolf's clothing?
tim pool
Yeah, sheep pretending to be the wolf.
I think we actually have sheep in shepherd's clothing.
I think we've gone so long without a real shepherd, and this could be even religious as well.
We've separated ourselves from any real leadership that finally one sheep looked around and was like, yo, the shepherd gets to eat whenever he wants, he gets to go wherever he wants.
delano squires
Correct.
tim pool
I'm gonna put on the shepherds, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna carry around his you know, what is it?
What that sticks that staff and just tell him what to do.
And so you've got sheep leading sheep.
Yeah, the blind leading the blind.
Yeah, and that's the you know, we were just talking about it the the the white knights, the is that I guess simps.
The guys who are just like simple.
ian crossland
That's kind of what it means.
Yeah, that's not what it means.
You're simple.
I think that's the idea.
tim pool
I think you're making that up.
ian crossland
I don't I don't know what else it would mean though.
tim pool
Sim means something, I don't know.
It does.
But it just, you know, basically it's a guy who's like white knighting for some chick.
This is what we have in terms of our leadership.
It's not just about the woman, it's about the constituency.
It's about the politician being like, I'm just going to say whatever you want to hear.
Right.
Because hopefully that'll make you happy.
ian crossland
I think that you were talking about people wanting to drink beer and check out and watch
the game and like I get it, but I think that we've been groomed for this.
I think that the whole bread and circus thing, it's an ancient Roman tactic.
You want to keep the plebs happy.
You just make sure they have enough bread and they have enough entertainment.
Same with beer.
Now you go turn on TV and watch a sports football game or something, beer commercials, car commercials, get drunk, buy a car.
So like, it's not healthy to check out, especially when people that check out and then think they have some political clout by putting a sign in their yard and yelling at their neighbor about like, If you're gonna check out, check out.
tim pool
Go away.
I guess to clarify what I was saying before about some people just don't mind being sheep and there's something wrong with it, is when you have a good shepherd, then your flock is protected and they're doing what they gotta do.
ian crossland
This country though, it was definitely founded on like, don't ever give up your rights.
Don't ever check out.
You are this process.
tim pool
Right, but I'm not saying to give up your rights.
I'm saying, you know, there are people who, I love using the example of like a carpenter, it's like a regular trade job, or an electrician.
Let's say you're an electrician.
Man, you will run circles around me and explaining how all this stuff works.
I'm going to sit here and be like, I have no idea.
Right.
delano squires
And I'll trust your expertise.
tim pool
Right.
But at the same time, that electrician is going to say to me, I don't have time to read the news all day.
And this is really important stuff.
I can wire a house.
I can save your house from burning down.
I can fix a car.
I can do a lot of stuff.
I can actually, I've had electricians talk about wiring up crazy devices and supercharging remote control cars and doing really awesome stuff because they know how to do it.
So they need to rely on someone who's at the forefront of the conflicts in the world, the culture battles, journalists and politicians who are going to say, you got my back in terms of building the infrastructure and I'll make sure you're well informed and prepared for what comes next.
I can't expect them to be where we are.
That's what I mean when I say, you know, everybody's a leader in some respect, but when it comes to our actual political, military and media establishment, that leadership is in the gutter.
It is a cesspool.
delano squires
Thoroughly discredited.
And I mean, I remember at one point I sent one of my boys a tweet from the CDC because his wife was pregnant at the time.
And it said something to the effect of, you know, are you considering getting vaccinated?
And these vaccines are now available for birthing people.
And I said, why would you trust a public health establishment that doesn't even know who the
category of person that can get pregnant, right? The exclusive category of person that can get
pregnant. And as I said, all of these institutions have discredited themselves over the past,
you know, two years. They'll blame it on alt-right. They'll blame it on Trump.
But it's no, you guys have done it.
And now you're feeling the backlash.
tim pool
People are waking up to it.
Waffle Sensei chimed in in a super chat with the quote from Ethan Klein.
He said, the CDC is like this whole government body with scientists and ish that tell us what to do.
You don't have to think about it, dude.
lydia smith
Yes.
delano squires
Wow.
unidentified
Well, there you go.
delano squires
Yeah.
tim pool
That's dangerous, man.
Because it's remarkable to me that you can look at history with like asbestos.
Come on, it's not even hard to come up with an ad.
DDT is good for me.
Remember that?
There's a really awesome ad that was going viral.
It was a pregnant woman smoking cigarettes.
lydia smith
Low birth rate.
Wait.
Yeah, right.
Easy delivery.
tim pool
Doctors recommend whatever cigarettes for expecting mothers.
I think Bill Maher even mentioned this too.
Maybe it was Bill Maher.
Maybe it wasn't.
He was saying that they used to drill mercury into your teeth.
They don't do that anymore.
Well, I mean, like, yeah, we would get the fillings, right?
Wasn't that, like, not even that long ago?
Did they did lead fillings?
Did they do that?
lydia smith
I don't know.
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
But they used to do they used to do a bunch of a bunch of stuff.
And all the time we decide, hey, that was maybe a bad idea.
We improve the science.
So to sit there and be like, you know, to quote Biden, the Tuskegee Airmen experiment.
No, but the Tuskegee experiments.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like the government.
MKUltra.
That was real.
ian crossland
It wasn't an accident either.
That one was intentional.
tim pool
I know, like, we know.
You don't just sit back and say the government is my friend.
I think the government is inherently utilitarian.
It cares about protecting itself.
delano squires
Correct.
tim pool
And it cares about maximizing output.
lydia smith
It constantly shocks me how quick people are to trust that the government has their best interest in mind because if you know anything about the government you're gonna know a little bit about like MKUltra and some of these other weird projects and creepy suspicious things the government's done.
I think that people tend to lump that into the whole Alex Jones paranoia basket but these are very real things that have definitely provably happened like the Tuskegee experience Very real.
Part of the reason there's so much vaccination hesitancy among that community.
And it's like, I completely understand why they remember what happened.
tim pool
That was funny to me because when the New York vaccine mandates were all happening, there were Black Lives Matter activists protesting it.
And one of the things I heard them say was like, they were like, we remember what the government did to us.
You're not going to just tell us we have to do this, this, this ish.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
delano squires
And I remember, it's funny because the last time I came, I was talking about, again, another article.
And I think the title, the title of it was, well, Kendi and Biden save No Vax Blacks from Jab Crow attacks.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's right.
I remember that.
delano squires
And Kendi actually answered that question.
Someone asked him about the vaccine mandates.
And of course, I knew he did what I knew he would do, which was pun.
You say, oh, well, well, they're really not racist, even though they have a disproportionate impact, because Blacks and Hispanics and Latinx can't get the vaccine.
They don't have access.
One, that's a lie.
Two, that would make it even more racist if you're holding Black and Hispanic people accountable for getting a medical treatment that you admit they don't have access to.
But Again, I knew that that's where he was going to go because he's making way too much money from, you know, guilty white liberals to criticize them and call them, you know, the forbidden R word.
But yeah, it's for me, one of the big things, the word that keeps coming back to my mind as it relates to COVID stuff is authority.
This virus has made the populace give up authority in areas of their private life, their medical lives, that we've never considered before, and the government has been more than willing to take it on.
So now all of the my body, my body, my choice people are now like, no, you must get the vaccine.
You must.
And if you don't, you're a bad person.
The people who would never stigmatize anybody for having AIDS or HIV, regardless of what type of personal behavior they engaged in, are now saying no.
If you get COVID and you're unvaccinated, you should die and you shouldn't get medical treatment.
So it's basically flipped all of, you know, people's principles right on their head.
tim pool
I gotta pull up this article from Post Millennial.
This one is, you're gonna love it.
You're gonna love it.
Watch elderly masked white women yell Black Lives Matter while assaulting black men for not wearing a mask.
That's it.
That's the story.
This is, I can't believe this is a video.
I don't know exactly where the video came from, but I saw it on libs of TikTok on Twitter.
And you have, you can see these women.
Apparently what happened was this black dude gets in an elevator.
He's not wearing a mask.
These two white women wearing masks yell at him to get out.
And he's like, no, I was here first.
You get out.
They start attacking him.
They hit him.
And he's like, yo, you hit me.
And then all of a sudden she goes, black lives matter.
And then the other woman goes, black lives matter.
It's like, It's like, yo, you hit a black dude on camera and you think yelling that is gonna help you?
These ladies are holding up their phones, they know all about the Karen thing, but here's the funny thing.
These are the mask wearers.
They're not supposed to be the Karens, right?
Or are they?
Like, it's a weird thing that happened because the Karens were the people who were the right wing, you know, the Trumpers, the anti-vaxxers.
They were the ones who refused to wear the masks in supermarkets.
Now it's literally, it's flipped.
The Karens are the people wearing the masks.
We saw that lady on the airplane when she hit the guy, I think, or she spit in his mouth.
unidentified
She spit in his mouth.
tim pool
Yo, but I just want to, I think, you know, outside of that, are we really at the point where old white liberals think they can just yell Black Lives Matter after hitting a black guy and that, like, that's their strategy?
lydia smith
It absolves them, yeah.
ian crossland
I remember a girl driving her car in a crowd of people and it was just like a black girl.
I don't call people, I don't like calling people black and white firstly because we're not white or black.
We have skin colors, and it's ridiculous to call people black and white, but this woman was driving her car, and people were like banging on the car, and then they realized that she was a black girl, and they were like, oh, everyone, stop!
Let her through!
delano squires
Black lives matter!
ian crossland
I don't remember exactly how that played out, but that was disturbing, man.
delano squires
I mean, this is the signal that we've sent through the culture, I mean, particularly from, you know, summer 2020.
Is if you say Black Lives Matter or you put up your little sign in front of your house or in your business, it makes people know that you're on the side of the righteous.
Sometimes I would joke with my wife and I said, to me, again, to borrow some sort of biblical imagery, it's like smearing the blood on the doorpost so that death angel passes over so that people know, look, I'm one of the good ones.
I think black lives matter.
tim pool
Let me play this because the video didn't pull up, but I want to say, listen to this.
unidentified
Get out!
tim pool
I'm gonna hear it again.
unidentified
Black lives matter.
Stop recording, I don't know you.
Yo, you need to stop.
I'm not getting out, I was here.
tim pool
Yo.
Wow.
Like, I would understand if there's like two white people fighting
and they're filming each other and then one of them yells Black Lives Matter,
trying to be like, if anybody sees this, I'm on the side of the cult.
but they hit a black guy and then yelled it and I'm like that makes it ten times worse and That's incredible.
lydia smith
I think this is like peak virtue signal because they're like, I'm going to actually assault someone who's actually black, but I'm going to say these magic words and nothing bad will happen to me.
delano squires
I also think this is one of the unspoken symptoms of long COVID quote unquote.
The neuroses and the anxiety and the fear have done almost as much damage as, if not more damage than the disease itself, because this is how people act when they see You know, like you just see a face.
Oh my gosh.
You know, that type of anxiety is not good.
tim pool
Look at this picture.
Let's just pull up the article again.
Like, look at this face, man.
It's crazy to me that I just, this lady's got no chill.
ian crossland
I know.
What you're saying is so true about long COVID having this psychological effect, because you can't quantify it.
Like, you can quantify the bank account and, like, inflation, and we can all agree and point at the number, but with psychosis, you got to just, you see it play out, and you got to kind of call it out when you see it.
It's going to be unpacking decades of trauma for people.
delano squires
And part of this is driven by policy, right?
Just like the cities that impose the vaccine passport mandates, Now you're putting five to 120 pound year old young women, um, in the position of playing bouncer at a restaurant.
And if you do that in a city that's big enough, you're going to have some bad reactions because everybody's already on edge.
So now when I come, you know, let's say I'm out to celebrate, you know, my, my mom's birthday and I'm in a party of 20 and everybody else gets in and now you're saying, sorry, sir, you can't come in because you don't have the passport.
And I'm just like, well, look here, I got a negative test.
Oh, we don't, we don't take that.
Now you're setting people up to have very, very bad interactions with people over, again, policies that obviously are not working the way that politicians intended.
tim pool
Within my soul, there is this feeling watching this video of these ladies.
And like to express the pure like, it is a perfect spiral of all of the BS.
It is the leftist violence, it is the mask Karens, it is the COVID policies, all just compressed into one point, ready to just burst.
ian crossland
Into one elevator.
tim pool
Into one elevator.
And I'm just like, if there is any video you need to share with your friends and family, people often say to me, Tim, my parents don't want to listen, they don't believe it.
Just go to PostMillennial, pull this video, pull this out, get the tweet, send it to them and ask them what they think.
And then they're going to be like, whose side are you on?
The mask people who are hitting a black guy and yelling Black Lives Matter, who apparently are the Black Lives Matter supporters?
Or the dude who's refusing to wear the mask?
What the heck?
What I find fascinating about it is it creates this position where if you're intellectually honest, if you're principled, it's really, really simple.
I don't care about the race of the guy.
They shouldn't have attacked him.
I'm not a fan of mask mandates.
These people are crazy.
But if you're on the side of Black Lives Matter or the Mask Karens, you're in a pickle here.
ian crossland
This guy, I did notice he seemed to flick at the girl right when the video started.
It's kind of out of context because it starts in the middle of the argument.
For all I know, he could have screamed at him before they started recording.
Probably unlikely.
tim pool
Yeah, but come on.
ian crossland
He kind of flicks, so I don't want to blame either one of them for starting it.
It looked like they were just kind of pushing at each other.
tim pool
You listen to the dude filming and he's chilled out.
ian crossland
He's confused.
tim pool
Yeah, he's like, what are you doing?
Why are you doing this?
They're angry.
delano squires
Yes.
Yeah.
tim pool
That's that anger, man.
ian crossland
And he's also like stuck in the elevator, has to get to where he's going.
So he's like, dude, I can't.
This is beyond me at this point.
tim pool
This poor guy, man.
This is like one other video that I really like to bring up is when the guy was following the woman around the supermarket and he said, is anyone else mad that we all have to wear masks and she isn't wearing hers?
Because it's not about COVID.
It's about authority and about doing as you're told.
delano squires
It's obedience.
It's funny.
I call masks, obedience masks, particularly in front of my kids.
My daughter, who's six, will always respond, it's not an obedience mask, dad.
So I mean, it's like a running joke.
My wife probably doesn't like it, but I mean, that's really what it is.
It's about compliance.
It's not about the virus at this point.
It's about I feel like I have, well, I feel like I have to wear it.
And I feel bad when I see people who are flouting these laws or these mandates or these orders that I feel like I'm stuck with.
And that's really what it is at this point.
tim pool
Going back to what we were talking about with like Bill Maher and stuff.
You know why I'm not a fan of that conversation?
I'm willing to bet that Bill Maher and Barry Weiss, they look at the polling.
They're like, parents are tired of this.
The polling for Biden is in the gutter.
I can tell when the ship is sinking.
I'm getting off.
ian crossland
But Bill's interesting.
I remember 2001, after 9-11, he was like a vocal advocate for, like, against the establishment.
It was really a show.
I think it was Politically Correct.
And he was, like, relentless.
And they canceled it.
They canceled his show.
Like, he was, like, a full-on, like, what's-the-guy's-name, said-the-seven-words, that comedian.
George Carlin. He was Carlin, like full on the embodiment of George Carlin. I still get that from him.
But then he was gone. Then he came back. Yeah. And now a little bit toned down. Real time's a little more toned down.
He's getting older, but I still love that. I feel that like, that rebel in him. I gotta be honest, you know, I work a
tim pool
lot.
I do the morning show, I do the night show, and with Luke leaving the show, I get it.
Luke does his own show, too.
He's got his channel, and so he was working nearly as much as I was, but, you know, to a certain degree, like, we're also running the business and expanding, so there's a little bit extra, there's a bit more that I do, but now I'm thinking, you know, Luke's on the road, he's gonna be in Florida, he's gonna be working only his morning shift, he's got all that free time at night.
I can totally understand, at a certain point, you're like, Yo, I've worked so hard endlessly for the past several years.
For me, I'm like, no, no, no, we gotta keep pushing, we gotta keep fighting because there's things that I care about and things I believe in.
Bill Maher, however, I can already tell.
He's a boomer.
How old is he?
60 or something?
lydia smith
62, I think.
unidentified
62.
ian crossland
He's also Ashkenazi Jew and not Polish.
I was looking up his, he's not Polish.
tim pool
I don't know why that's relevant to what I'm talking about.
ian crossland
Ashkenazi Jew mother and Irish father, just so you know.
Not Polish that I know of.
tim pool
Well, Ashkenazi is Eastern European, isn't it?
ian crossland
That's what I'm talking about!
tim pool
He's got some Putin in him!
ian crossland
Irrelevant to my point.
tim pool
My point is that it's very obvious he's checked out.
It's very obvious, like when the Covington scandal happened, he came out and he was just wrong about it.
And I'm like, yo, we corrected the story a week ago.
CNN came out a week ago, and Bill Maher's a week late, still wrong, and people were cheering for it.
And I'm just like, I don't think this show is actually about what's true and correct.
I think it's about what's polling.
And I think, you know, with a story like that, it's entirely possible he was like, I know it's not true, but this joke's gonna play really, really well with this audience, so let's do it.
A year later, we're supposed to be happy that, as the ship's sinking, we all got off the ship.
Let me put it this way.
Try not to be too disrespectful to people who are at least saying something good.
But there's the Titanic, and it's coming down, and as soon as the iceberg hits, we all said, hey everybody, hit an iceberg, time to get in the lifeboat.
And everyone else said, shut up, you crazy right-winger conspiracy theorist, there's no iceberg, nothing can sink the Titanic.
So we're like, so you guys don't care, we'll take this lifeboat?
Get out of here, you crazy!
He said, alright, we'll take it.
Now, as the ship's crumbling and sinking, they're all going like, oh, uh, we, we need lifeboats too.
We've been saying it the whole time.
And I'm just like, the only reason they're saying it is because it's safe for them to say it now because the polling's in their favor.
They weren't brave enough to speak out and risk getting canceled or fired or insulted or smeared at the time, but they're willing to say it now.
So when Bill Maher comes out and he does the virtue signal joke about vaccination, and I'm like, ah, They did market research and found we were right the whole time, and now they're realizing there's an opportunity for him.
ian crossland
He got COVID.
That changed him a lot after he got COVID.
Yeah, he got vaccinated, and then he got COVID and was like, what is this all about?
And then he kind of changed.
tim pool
Let me pull up this video.
unidentified
Oh boy.
tim pool
This one's going to get us in trouble.
So we got this from Nicholas Fondacaro.
He's over at MRC Newsbusters.
He says, how dare you?
Whoopi Goldberg ridiculously pops off against Bill Maher for anti-mask jokes, tells him to stay out of society.
Sarah Haines joins in by saying masks will be a permanent new normal, like airport security after 9-11.
I may never feel comfortable without a mask.
Even after the Bill Maher-Barry Weiss thing comes out and the liberals are like, we're not going to be doing this, the view is still doubling down.
But I'm bringing this up for a different reason.
I want you all to listen very closely.
You ready?
whoopi goldberg
I'm gonna play that one more time.
That's not really funny to people who've lost their kids to this vaccine or people who've lost family members or dear
friends to this.
It's just, you know...
tim pool
I'm gonna play that one more time.
One more time for you guys.
whoopi goldberg
You are...
That's not really funny to people who've lost their kids to this vaccine or people who've lost family members or dear friends to this.
It's just, you know, listen, nobody on the planet really wants to go through this.
tim pool
You know, everybody responds to that.
When I tweeted it saying, whoa, Whoopi Goldberg said, losing your kids to the vaccine?
And everyone said, you know what she meant.
You know what she meant.
And they always do that.
And I'm like, if we were a serious people in this country, I would.
But she says nobody wants this and nobody wants to go through with this.
Did she mean to say virus?
Yeah.
How do you know, Ian?
How do you know what she was thinking?
ian crossland
Only because I've seen her work, and I feel like that's what she meant to say and that she misspoke.
tim pool
This is a big problem we have in the information space, exemplified by a tweet I made about a rumor going around that a school had put litter boxes in the bathroom for furries.
I quoted a woman who said that she had heard a school had put litter boxes in their bathroom for kids who identified as furries.
And I linked to a story where it says Superintendent denies this.
And everybody interpreted the tweet however they wanted to.
Many people on the right interpreted it to mean the story was true, and they were doing this.
Many interpreted it to mean that people are insane for believing it.
And many interpreted it to believe that I was actually personally believing the story had happened and it was true without fact-checking.
That's the problem with you, Ian, saying you know what Whoopi Goldberg meant when she said this.
ian crossland
Oh, I wouldn't, like, risk my life on it, but that's my guess.
tim pool
I think it's fair.
No, no, I do agree though.
I do agree though.
I think she meant to say virus or whatever, but the problem is right now, what would they do if it was like Donald Trump making a statement?
If Donald Trump came out and said, did you see this?
Whoopi Goldberg says kids being lost to the vaccine.
What's going on with the view?
The media would say false, never happened.
But then someone will take the clip of her saying it.
And they'll play it, and she literally did say people have lost their kids to the vaccine.
Now, look, don't make me get into it, YouTube.
I'm not here to make a medical conversation.
People can talk to their doctors as YouTube mandates we say or whatever.
The point is, I just thought this was really fascinating that she literally said this.
No one on the show corrects her.
As far as I know, they never came out and said, we really need to clarify that statement for national television.
Because as far as I could tell, if you were to take a transcript of this and just show what she was saying, She's criticizing vaccines.
ian crossland
She just got COVID, right?
Like a couple weeks ago or something?
So she's probably really twisted about this whole thing.
And she's got a job to do, going on The View, but obviously something's going on in her head that that came out.
tim pool
Well, it's not even that.
I mean, the whole segment itself is bonkers.
Where they're like, that one woman, what's her name?
Sarah Haynes?
She's like, I'm not gonna leave my house ever, even after the pandemic.
It's like, are you trying to one-up the other crazy Karen ladies?
ian crossland
Is this new?
Is this a recent?
tim pool
Yeah, this is from today.
It's like, you know, people are constantly trying to one-up each other, you know?
So you get some woman who's like, I like the mask.
You got, remember when, wasn't it David Hogg who was like, I'm not going to take the mask off because people will think I'm a Republican or something like that.
delano squires
And that goes to what we've been saying, right?
A lot of this is virtue signaling.
It's, I need to do something so that people don't associate me with the wrong people.
And if that is what is driving any part of your public health response, We're in trouble because I mean, one of the things I heard and again, COVID has just scrambled everything in American sort of political life.
It's when it first hit, why isn't Trump doing enough?
Then it's Trump is a, is a, is a, you know, fascist and a dictator and he's going to do too much.
And now it's I want, I want the government to tell me what to do, who I can have at my house on the 4th of July or Thanksgiving or Christmas.
And I don't think people know what to think.
And I do think many brains have been scrambled.
tim pool
You know, talking about, you know, I just did this stupid YouTube disclaimer thing, because like, we don't give medical advice here on this show.
Go speak to your doctor about what's right for you.
I wonder what people, how people are going to respond when all of this implodes, because it's already starting to implode.
I mentioned several times, I'm like, I don't even know what the rules are anymore because the media, the news has reported such crazy things.
Like the New York Times, Israeli study says that repeated vaccination could actually increase your chance of catching the virus or whatever.
Something like that.
It could reduce the immune response.
I'm like, No, no, no.
And I'm like, can I talk about that?
Can I say that?
Because YouTube will ban us.
I don't know, man.
I read it in the New York Times.
Go talk to a doctor.
Don't get your advice from me.
But what happens when regular people who, like Hassan, the lefty streamer, he refers to people as ivermectin truthers.
How do people who watch him react when all of this implodes and the narrative crumbles and then just we realize once again who was actually corrected?
Are people going to be mad at YouTube and these big tech companies, feel like they've been deceived?
When will people start to I know that we do.
But when will regular people start to look at Twitter and be like, you know, these people are evil, they're manipulating us, they're lying about what's going on, and they're controlling the flow of information?
ian crossland
Probably never, because, like, we just, last week talked about only 2% of the American population even uses Twitter.
Most people are not savvy.
tim pool
Facebook.
ian crossland
Maybe Facebook, a little more.
tim pool
Everybody's got Facebook.
ian crossland
Do they?
tim pool
Yeah, well, not everybody, but a lot of people.
Younger people tend not to.
But TikTok, even.
We're banned from TikTok.
delano squires
Wow.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't know why.
I don't know.
I think it's because we had Alex Jones on.
unidentified
Yeah.
delano squires
I mean, my experience and I'll say this sort of from the race angle.
I've seen so many stories that have blown up that have been complete hoaxes.
And there's always a remnant of people who hold on to it for dear life.
I mean, I know the one that comes to mind is, you know, the Michael Brown shooting in Ferguson.
and the whole hands up, don't shoot thing that went sort of international.
And then Barack Obama and Eric Holder's DOJ did their investigation and they found,
they couldn't find a single witness who had sort of testimony or an interview
that corroborated the forensic evidence that showed that Michael Brown was shot
with his hands up in a position of surrender.
I mean, I read through the entire report.
Now, there are still politicians, I think Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris,
who every time Michael Brown's birthday comes around, they talk about it as if he was murdered in cold blood.
So some people will never let go of that.
tim pool
He's evil, man.
delano squires
Yeah, and when you see... I mean, I think there was a study last year that showed that people who identify as liberal and very liberal overestimate the number of police shootings of unarmed black men.
I mean, the very liberal thing is like between a thousand and ten thousand, so... Somebody did a video, I can't remember who it was, it might have been Vice, where they went around L.A.
tim pool
and asked people How many black people do you think have been killed by police in the past year?
They went to the Venice skate park and these these skater guys they were like 500, 1000, 10,000.
What was it like 13?
Unarmed?
a thousand, 10,000, what was it like 13?
delano squires
Unarmed? Yeah, it's typically in that range.
And even, I think most people would vastly overestimate the percentage of
sort of police shooting fatalities that even involve Black people.
people.
On average, it's about 25%.
45% of police shooting fatalities are white people, typically white men.
But if you read, if you were someone that came from Mars, you would think only black men get shot by the cops and only white blondes go missing.
tim pool
Now what if you're a 10-year-old in 2008, you're on Facebook and BuzzFeed pops up and the only thing you see in your Facebook feed for 10 years is police brutality videos.
Now it's 2018, you're voting in the midterm for the first time and you're probably screaming like, Cops are going around hunting people down.
delano squires
Using terms like genocide.
I mean, we have been primed and unless you're a person who can think critically, this is where being a sheep is so dangerous.
Because if you just take the word of CNN or MSNBC or even for that period of time, the whole Colin Kaepernick thing was hot.
ESPN, you are being fed by low information journalists, quote
unquote, and political analysts and commentators. And what you're being fed basically a synthetic grass. And if you
feed a sheep, synthetic grass, they're gonna die. Period.
tim pool
Yeah, man. I think about this, the social media problem. I I really do think Twitter is one of the biggest causes of these problems, of everything we're experiencing.
The rapid spread of decontextualized information, whether intentionally false or otherwise.
The Whoopi Goldberg clip.
The reason I wanted to highlight this and talk about her misspeaking is because they never corrected it.
Right.
And so what could happen now is I guarantee you there will be people who will clip her saying that and they're going to be like breaking Whoopi Goldberg criticizes the vaccine.
And she literally said it.
lydia smith
She did.
And it makes sense to me that that would be a kind of a Freudian slip.
But at the same time, I really hate when people assume they know what other people are thinking.
Because we don't even understand what we're thinking ourselves half the time.
Communicating is not perfect between humans.
Talking, saying the things that you actually think is very challenging.
So I'll give her the benefit of the doubt a little bit, but the fact that no one corrected her on this, somebody should've been like, no, the dying of the virus.
ian crossland
Yeah, what a bunch of weak minds.
No offense, girls or guys or whoever's on that show, to not correct her on that.
No, listen to your co-hosts and correct them when they misspeak.
tim pool
It's crazy, isn't it?
Nobody wanted to speak up and be like, Whoopi, Whoopi, did you mean... Did you... Like, when you said Wolf and Shepard's mother, I was like, wait, did you mean... I'm like, hey, we're having a real conversation.
I'll ask you to clarify.
It's no big deal.
They could have been like, Whoopi, did you mean the virus?
You said vaccine.
She would have been like, oh!
unidentified
Yeah, of course.
Right, yeah.
tim pool
Okay, great.
Now that clips out.
ian crossland
I love what you just said about how Twitter might be making people nuts.
I just made a video on Minds about this.
First video I've made in a while about tone.
And I think tone has been lost.
And basically as a human society, we're evolving our communication abilities.
Then we developed the phone.
And we were able to communicate via vocal vibration.
Then all of a sudden, we developed internet video.
And we can communicate.
But people have fallen back into text again.
Like they're sending letters again.
And it's driving them.
It's like the Stone Age, man.
Get out.
Keep moving forward.
Do not fall back into text.
You're missing the tone.
tim pool
I think Twitter is awful.
ian crossland
It's the text.
If there's video conversation, I'm all for it.
But as soon as people type, like it's 1911.
tim pool
But what's the alternative, right?
You know, I've been thinking about this.
The internet allows shows like this.
It allows us to communicate with each other.
It allows us to fact check and challenge the establishment more than ever before.
But it also gives the establishment the ability to propagandize and manipulate better than ever before.
delano squires
True, yeah.
And I mean those are the trade-offs that come with any sort of complex system or any public policy or any advancement in technology.
It's always going to be trade-offs.
The question is net-net is it do we think it's to our benefit as a society or is it to our detriment?
tim pool
That's a good question.
I think it's clear it's a benefit, and that's why they're trying so hard to censor everything and control the flow of information.
ian crossland
Because you want to induce yourself with information, whether it's right or wrong, and a strong mind can wield all sorts of information without believing it, and that you have to, but you can also be brainwashed.
Even the strongest of minds, if you induce yourself with enough false narrative, it can start to change you.
You know, we're susceptible.
So how do you balance that?
How do you balance it?
delano squires
I mean, for me, part of this goes to the importance of education, right?
Starting for kids, but I see education as equal parts scholarship and discipleship, but also a lifelong process, not something that ends in 12th grade when you turn 18.
So part of it, I just have a number of filters, right?
I always try to get a comment in context.
So whenever possible, I look for a longer stream of thought if it's a clip video.
I always, I have different sort of areas of absolute truth.
So no matter how many people line up and tell me that Caitlyn Jenner is a woman, I'm not going to call a person who is a biological male a she.
And I know that may get me banned from certain platforms, but it is what it is.
So I'm just trying to keep my feet firmly planted on the ground and not lose track of reality.
Because when people control what you say, inevitably they will control what you think.
tim pool
Which brings us to our next story from Fox Business.
Hello everyone!
Meet the new boss!
Same as the old boss.
Trump Truth Social developing content moderation practices to ensure family-friendly community.
That actually sounds like it will be more strict than Twitter.
And they go on to say that they're going to be using the Hive artificial intelligence.
TMTG is partnering with Hive, a Series D startup providing automated solutions through cloud-based artificial intelligence for understanding images, videos, and text content.
Hive's technology provides automated content moderation across video, image, text, and audio.
I'm gonna tell you what, it ain't gonna work.
Donald Trump is going to have a more censorious platform than Twitter and many of these other websites.
Now Twitter, you know, we'll see.
But artificial intelligence moderation can easily be bypassed.
Maybe not easily easily, but easily enough.
So what's the end result?
Does Donald Trump think, does Jason Miller of Getter think, people are going to be leaving Twitter, which is censorious, to go to other platforms that are censorious in other ways?
I just don't see it happening.
I see people being like, okay, here's what'll happen.
Instead of following Trump, you'll sign up for a truth social account and Follow Trump there.
And then when you want to follow the MAGA crowd, you'll sign up on Getter.
And so you know where this leads us to?
It leads us back to GeoCities.
When everyone just has their own website.
They just make it, you click it, it's 15 bucks, bam.
And actually I think you get a free account, it's got a little ad box appears on it.
That's where we're going.
It's like, you might as well not even have social media at this point.
Because everybody's making their own platform.
Everyone's going to have crazy rules.
Or maybe, I don't know, Fediverse is the answer.
ian crossland
That'll come along with it.
tim pool
But this one, I'll throw this one to you, Ian.
How do you feel about Donald Trump using an artificial intelligence to be arguably more censorious than even Twitter is?
ian crossland
I'm trying to find if the code is free or open source.
tim pool
It's Mastodon.
ian crossland
They spun up Mastodon, but it's Hive because then they can tack on proprietary stuff onto a free software network and you've got an amalgamation of free code and private code.
And so the entire network isn't free.
I think Hive is proprietary.
I'm going to just imagine it is because I cannot find their code base.
And that's extremely disturbing.
That AI could be doing anything and you won't know what it's doing or what it's commanded to do.
tim pool
But Trump?
I mean, like, that's the funny thing about it, right?
ian crossland
It's the red, white, and blue.
You go to Truth.Social, it's red, white, and blue.
It's a bunch of fascists.
And I talk about this, like, nationalism is like fascism.
It's not the same thing, nationalism.
But when you whip up nationalist frenzy with corporations like Truth.Social, that's fascist.
I mean, red, white, and blue on a social network, that's fascist.
tim pool
Why is that fascist?
ian crossland
It has nothing to do with the United States.
It's a private company.
It has nothing to do with the United States.
tim pool
But what does that have to do with fascism, Ian?
ian crossland
They're trying to invoke national fervor to get people to sign up for a private company.
tim pool
For which country?
France, Russia, or the U.S.?
ian crossland
Obviously the United States.
It's Donald Trump.
tim pool
Come on, man.
Are you joking?
ian crossland
Jason Miller came in here with a red, white, and blue suit on, dude.
It's like they're trying to sell this national... He was wearing a blue suit with a red tie.
Come on, man.
I'm just tired of turning on Fox News and seeing red, white, and blue.
And MSNBC, red, white, and blue.
It's propaganda.
You make it green.
Gab is green.
It's cool.
It's weird.
It's new.
tim pool
Mine is yellow.
ian crossland
Red, white, and blue turns me off anyway.
tim pool
I like the American flag personally.
I do too.
America is a pretty good country.
And Trump is trying to invoke a sense of patriotism.
Red, white, and blue is a color scheme.
It's an America-themed color scheme.
I don't think it's fascist for him to do that.
I think it's more fascistic that it is going to be a censor-heavy, AI-automated censorship.
ian crossland
I think it's like, I look at it as like the first step on the road to fascism.
So I call it fascism.
It hasn't, it's not obviously not fascist, but it indicates like a thread that could pull on to find that later down the road.
He's obviously going to censor the hell out of people.
tim pool
That's true.
lydia smith
So this is just market research.
They know that their base loves the American flag.
They love patriotism.
This is their whole shtick.
This is their thing.
So they're using the American flag.
I don't view that as being fascistic.
I will say that it looks like it's coming down to be a choice between being censored from the left or being censored from the right.
And I do think that it would be much better if we did have some form of Federated system where we could each go and block the people that we don't like but everybody is allowed to say exactly what they think I don't know if we're gonna be able to attain true free speech even on the Fediverse But we could at least try it's gonna be better than this.
delano squires
This just looks like a cop-out to me Yeah, and I mean, I mean I think as you know as flawed as Twitter is it one thing I like about is it does allow for conversations between people with Very, very different, you know, political views.
And at least we, even if the rules on censoring seem arbitrary at times, I think it's one of those things we've just become more used to them.
And I think that's a different psychological response than going into a new platform with rules that even the people who create the platform can't articulate in a consistent fashion.
tim pool
You know, I think we gotta be real about online platforms and moderation and stuff, and I think Ian probably understands this.
There's a reason why Twitter bans people.
The left, so first I'll get political, the left cannot tolerate, in a general sense, disagreement and aggressive argument, discussion.
It causes them to, Will Wheaton's a great example.
He's like, if Alex Jones is allowed to be here saying words, I'm gonna quit!
And it's like, okay, well that's too much, bye, quit.
But when they say things like, hey, someone's harassing me, then Twitter's like, ugh.
I feel like Twitter and these other companies look at their system and they say, what level of moderation can we implement that will maintain the most amount of left-wing users and minimally lose right-wing users?
I think their whole thing is like, how can we maximize user base?
Because conservatives are willing to stay on the platform even through censorship, they know they can censor the right, but the left isn't, so they know they have to censor the right, not the left.
But I will say, there's a reality to Twitter and censorship.
I don't really check my replies anymore.
Because I know it's just full of insane, psychobabble garbage.
Not everybody.
Sometimes I reply to people, I do.
But I know that most of the time, it's like, yo...
If I tweet something and then I look at the responses of which there's going to be hundreds, sometimes even thousands, it is going to be incoherent, out of context, rage, narcissism, insults.
I don't want to bother with it.
The reply function to me is worthless.
And I'm not trying to... Look, it's different for everybody, but I've got a million followers on Twitter.
Don't ask me why, I don't know.
I tweet random nonsense.
But people are following me, and I know that I can tweet something sometimes as a joke, and I'll still get just thousands of hateful responses.
I'm gonna be honest, I don't want to use that platform.
Jack Dorsey and the people at Twitter know that, so they said, okay, we gotta start banning these people.
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
Which made the platform worse because they go too far with it.
unidentified
Right.
ian crossland
That's when it comes to harassment.
That's a very vague term, especially now with internet.
It was a lot easier in the real world before the internet.
It was kind of obvious if someone was harassing.
It was a little more obvious.
Now with the internet, it's like if someone comments on your post over and over and over again, people are like, they're harassing me.
They're like, no, they're not.
They're just commenting.
And what would happen on Twitter is, A bunch of people would keep reporting a group of 100 people and be like, they're harassing me, they're harassing me.
And they weren't, according to the terms.
But because they would keep getting reported, these same people, Twitter will end up banning those people to placate the people that are complaining about a misrepresentation of the terms.
delano squires
I had that happen to me one time.
I was in a Twitter debate with a self-described black radical feminist professor.
We got into the debate because at one point she was, this was around, you know, she was on a show with Marc Lamont Hill and they were talking about, you know, Texas abortion law and she described herself as pro-family.
Now, having been familiar with her work, I was like, that's not the case.
She's a person who sort of celebrates the decline of the nuclear family, right?
So, at one point, she said, the black community does not need nuclear families to thrive.
And boy, did that set off a bunch of people.
Now, to be fair, a lot of the responses were talking about her appearance, and I don't get down like that.
But, when she finally responded to me, she was like, you know, black men say that black women should stick up for them, and you should see all the hateful replies, and people like you, you knew what you were doing when you did that, and you like it.
And I was like, I was just responding on substance, but I think a lot of times what the left does is they will take those types of ad hominem attacks and use that as a reason to not reply to the sort of substantive issue that's on the table.
And I think that's an easy dodge.
The other thing I wanted to say, I think Ian, you bring up a really good point.
And I think this is a point that I see articulated on the new right, as I would call it.
And that point is, to what extent do American corporations owe any sense of loyalty to sort of the body politic, the nation in general?
Because I think after decades of globalism and free trade, a lot of people are starting to question whether or not companies like Apple and Amazon and Google are really serving the interests of our country because they are quick to criticize, you know, Americans, In the middle of the country, Trump voters, but are quiet as church mice when it comes to, you know, any type of criticism or perceived criticism of the CCP.
So I think that's a question that's bubbling up.
And I think there's a way for companies to feel like, no, we're American companies.
We serve American citizens without it being fascistic, as you were saying.
tim pool
Well, so one of the components that we've discussed in the show, one of the components of Nazism, Or fascism was the lucrative merger of corporation and state, but it was cultural enforcement.
It was when the entirety of the country was so, you know, in line with nationalistic fervor, the company would have to fall in line or risk being just cancelled, as it were, right?
One way to put it.
We have the opposite of that right now.
You know, so we have literally the opposite of fascism.
And maybe that's why the left was screaming Trump was a fascist, because he did a little bit in favor of the nation.
Now, whereas back then, as it would go is someone would go to the factory and be like, are you producing steel for the war effort?
And then if they weren't, it was like, oh, shun, shun.
Now it's the opposite.
Now it's, um, who's that?
Who's that?
Who's that invisible wrestler guy?
lydia smith
Oh, John Cena?
tim pool
John Cena.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
He's a little wrestler guy.
tim pool
Yeah, you know what I'm talking about.
He makes a video praising China.
Or, I'm sorry, apologizing to China.
And that's the acceptable thing.
LeBron James, Mark Cuban.
They're actually pandering for China!
Look, I think there's a fine line between... I think there's a decent amount of room in between fascism and communism.
We can very much be in the middle where we're like, our companies should not be selling us out to foreign adversaries.
We also don't expect you to fall in line through cultural enforcement to mass produce for the nation or whatever, right?
delano squires
So I'd have a slightly different take, right?
Even if it's not the sort of the mass production for the nation, I remember back when, you know, Citizens United, that decision came down from SCOTUS, and you know, Mitt Romney famously said that corporations are people too, and he got hammered by Democrats.
But now, the political ties have turned to the point where Democrats know that big business is in their back pocket.
So when Delta criticizes the state of Georgia for its, you know, voter laws, or when, you know, they, they, different companies, you know, basically all the fortune 500 companies sign up or sign on in support of the Equality Act, or when they say, we're not going to go to this particular state because of its abortion laws.
I think big business has inserted itself into some of these conversations, our political conversations.
Both in terms of trying to move the needle in the in the left direction, and as we've seen it for vaccine mandates as the enforcement arm of the federal government.
So the company say, okay, we know the feds can't mandate that everyone get a shot.
But we think that we can force our workers to do it.
So the federalists say, Hey, we want the companies to do X and then we'll take on that responsibility to get, you know, our, our, our employees as a term, as a condition of employment to do what it is that the federal government wanted them to do.
ian crossland
That's crazy.
I'm worried about what you're talking about.
This is a good conversation about corporations and what they owe the country.
They're based in the United States, but for all I know, Amazon, Google, and Apple are about to pick up and move to China, their headquarters, and just say, bye-bye.
Money talks.
Politics is passe.
What do they owe?
It's all about, does the CEO want to stay American at this point?
I mean, maybe they owe the shareholders.
I don't think it's part of the corporate charter that they have to stay in the United States.
Monsanto moved its headquarters, got bought by Bayer, basically merged with Bayer,
and now moved their headquarters to, I think, England.
tim pool
I'm not sure where they're at now, but they've been— Google's headquartered in Ireland, I think, right?
Fiscally smart, but obviously... These are not American companies.
They were started here off of our taxes, our roads, our blood, sweat, and tears, and then they up and relocate.
So you know what really drives me crazy is when the left is like, Amazon paid no taxes or whatever, and I'm like, I feel like that's kind of a distraction.
The real issue is the Panama Papers.
delano squires
Yeah.
tim pool
Remember that?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
And the journalist who exposed it?
ian crossland
This is a big deal, actually.
The bank accounts in Panama that are popping up all over that apparently belonged to Putin's buddy and like all these really and that's the kind of the story that came up and like no one would touch it.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
So, I mean, everybody was talking about it and the journalist died.
ian crossland
For like a week.
tim pool
Then there was like another release that I got quashed really quickly
But what these companies are doing is I don't I don't care necessarily about the taxes
I care about the fact that they've sold us out Period you know that I'm pretty sure Google's an island. I
could be wrong, but they're they're setting up in other countries
They don't care about us They don't care about the United States.
You know, Google wanted to do that.
What was it?
Dragonfly or whatever?
That Chinese search engine.
They were arguing with it.
They all want to just be dominant global powers.
ian crossland
So it looks like Alphabet, which owns Google, is in Mountain View, California right now.
It's called an American multinational company.
What the hell does that mean?
That they exist everywhere, but they're headquartered in America.
delano squires
Right.
tim pool
But are you looking up their American headquarters?
Or are you looking up their actual corporate headquarters?
ian crossland
I just looked up Alphabet headquarters.
Alphabet Inc.
tim pool
You can't look up their headquarters.
You gotta look up their place of incorporation or whatever.
Because you can have a Venezuelan headquarters.
You know what I mean?
delano squires
Right.
And I think where the companies are located is one thing, right?
A lot of people, particularly both probably both right and left, would love to see more goods, whether it's PPE, whether it's microchips produced in the United States, you know, bring them to Baltimore or, you know, Chicago, wherever.
But I think the other piece of it is that these corporations insert themselves into our political conversations, oftentimes against the will of the voters, like the voters in Georgia elected a legislature and a governor to address their issues.
Where are all these companies coming and saying, no, we stand against, you know, what the voters in Georgia want to do.
And to punish them, we're going to move the MLB All-Star game from Georgia to Colorado.
And I think the extent to which these companies, as I said, insert themselves into our political process, that is one of the things that I find to be very, very, very disturbing.
unidentified
So regarding Chief Social.
tim pool
Just a real quick point of clarification.
I believe everything I've looked up says Google is headquartered and based in Mountain View, California.
There's often talk of their Dublin data center, and that's probably what I was confused about.
unidentified
Interesting.
tim pool
So I assume they would be based in America.
ian crossland
America for now.
But I don't think they have to, like, stay in the United States.
I don't know how that works.
They could probably, you know, bail.
If Sergey and Larry want to say bye-bye.
It's terrifying.
When it comes to Truth Social, now we're talking, it's a social network that has some American, he's trying to show us, it's got American values.
It's red, white, and blue.
But when I look at it and I see a private proprietary network that is blatantly going to start censoring, I just don't get the American values in it.
You can slather it with an American flag, but for me, unless you're going to make that code base free, then it's not really a free network.
lydia smith
Well, yeah, and the other thing, too, is that one of the core tenets of American value is the freedom of speech.
It's literally in our First Amendment.
So I think that it is perhaps a little bit disingenuous to plaster the American flag.
I do think it's just a marketing tactic because they know their base, whatever.
tim pool
Sorry.
No, go ahead.
So I looked it up.
It's called the Double Irish Arrangement.
It's a tax strategy used by multinational corporations to lower their corporate tax liabilities.
ian crossland
That's crazy.
So they don't pay American taxes.
tim pool
Or it reduces their taxes.
I think the Irish are upset about it as well because it pulls money from their country.
It also allows Google to operate and probably avoid taxes in the United States.
I'd have to look up the nitty gritty details.
But even outside of that, I don't think Amazon or Google or any of these companies have our best interests at heart at all.
delano squires
No, no.
And I mean, it's not just the companies.
I remember a couple of weeks ago when I was doing research for a column, I saw that the head of the AFL-CIO, I think was basically either explicitly or sort of tacitly taking the position of the administration on vaccine mandates.
And I was like, this is one of the largest unions in the country.
They should be advocating on behalf of their workers, but In many respects, the Democratic Party today is much more responsive to the needs of the board of the New York Times than the board of, you know, major trade unions.
It's just a different day and age, and I think where you see the companies going, you're going to see all these other supporting institutions go as well.
ian crossland
I got follow up on Monsanto.
They were an American company based in Missouri, but then they got bought by Bayer, who is a German company based in Germany.
tim pool
I don't, you know, I was watching the Joe Rogan episode with James Lindsay, and they start talking about Vanguard and BlackRock and State Street, stuff like that.
And then I'm just sitting there thinking, like, you know, before I heard that episode, I was kind of worried about what was going to happen to this show because, you know, Ian's over here talking about Monsanto, we're talking about, you know, Google's tax holdings and Amazon, and we have, you know, we have deplorables on this show frequently.
And then we get swatted a couple times, we get DDoS attacks.
I'm like, sooner or later, they're going to try and stop us from having this conversation, however they can.
But then I saw that Rogan episode and I was like, they lost.
They lost control.
They lost control a long time ago.
It's done.
When the biggest podcast is, they've lost any kind of centralized ability to manipulate.
We're breaking through.
ian crossland
They're still in the pilot seat, but they're like, Dials are not responding.
But that's like where we're at in the story right now.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't know, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So I was saying this before, like, feeling pretty optimistic.
So, you know, it's that Bill Maher stuff.
It's the Joe Rogan stuff.
It's where the conversations are actually happening.
And if the conversations in the media are faltering, they're not breaking through, give it five, ten years and they won't be a part of any conversation.
It's only a matter of time before You know, you're going to be turning on the news.
Actually, Joe Rogan already sets the news cycle in a lot of ways based on the things he talks about.
And that's it.
I mean, the New York Times commanded that power a long time ago.
Now they're losing it.
Now we're taking it back.
ian crossland
Do you see a stink bug flying around?
unidentified
Oh yeah, but I was like, is anyone going to disagree?
ian crossland
I agree with you.
tim pool
And there's a stink bug flying around.
I think a lot of everyone paused.
They were like, what is it?
ian crossland
I think about like the power structure.
This kind of comes to my mind once, once a week or so.
And like, cause as we're talking about it a lot, like there is a very dark underbelly of power in the world.
There always has been, I guess.
And it's like, if it doesn't like you, it will try and step on you, but you can somehow, I know you can work with it and we can change it.
Um, For the better, whatever that means.
Destruction and creation.
The inevitable yin-yang of our species.
lydia smith
Well, I do think that's what we're doing.
And I kind of, in some ways, I feel like we're kind of rising to take the place of some of these commentators.
Not necessarily straight news, in my instance.
You're more the journalistic side of everything, although I do like to send you stuff.
But it's like they're so obviously losing.
They're losing on the political front.
I get the impression that 2022 is going to be, for lack of a better term, a bloodbath and that it will be very red and very splashy.
I don't think we've ever seen anything like what's coming in 2022.
That makes me optimistic, but I won't bet the house on it, you know?
tim pool
Hold your horses there.
ian crossland
I think I hear your thoughts.
lydia smith
Hopefully.
tim pool
It starts looking really, really good, and then all of a sudden it's like, oh, the mail-in ballots came in late.
People need to track this, because in 2018, I was looking at everything going on in the media, and I said, I feel like the Republicans are going to win.
2018.
And then, initially, they did.
And the reports came out and it said, no blue wave.
The Democrats couldn't hold it.
But they said, wait, wait.
We're still counting.
Then a couple weeks later, they're like, there it is!
There actually was a blue wave.
The mail-in votes came in, had to get counted, and then Democrats ended up winning.
So I'll just put it this way.
Without getting into the nitty-gritty of all of the underlying conditions, I'll just say, policies will change.
Policies have changed.
And the Democrats are trying to ram through their voter overhaul, which could change everything.
And the polls may be irrelevant.
lydia smith
Possible.
ian crossland
What could it change?
What's the voter overhaul thing all about?
tim pool
So there's a couple things in it.
For one, it effectively nationalizes elections.
If any state wants to change or change a rule, they have to go to the DOJ first or something ridiculous.
It creates automatic registration.
It makes Election Day a national holiday.
And it is completely and unquestionably unconstitutional what they're proposing.
They want a voter month instead of a voter day.
ian crossland
OK, that I can kind of get into.
tim pool
Well, that's a violation of the Constitution, so it doesn't matter.
ian crossland
I don't like stuffing it into one day because some people are busy on that day.
tim pool
That's too bad.
That's why you make it a holiday.
lydia smith
I agree with the holiday.
unidentified
For sure.
tim pool
I like that.
Make it a holiday.
You have one election day.
That's the way it's supposed to be done.
Because when you open it up to several weeks with mail-in voting and early voting, you open up inconsistencies.
I'm not talking about fraud.
I'm talking about Sometimes, because we've got the RV we're building at the mobile studio, no idea where the keys went.
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
We haven't picked them up in three weeks because we're waiting for the crew to come and do work.
You just forget what you did with it.
And so having one voting day where everything is planned, regimented, and according to the Constitution, I think it makes sense.
I do think there's questions about population density, the Founding Fathers probably didn't consider.
Fair point.
But you can't just be like, we're gonna pass a bill that violates the Constitution, and if you don't do it, then you're evil or something.
lydia smith
You're a bigot.
tim pool
Yeah, you're far right.
lydia smith
Yeah, you got to pull this really tight because if you leave any gaps for any kind, not for fraud necessarily, but for human disorganization is something that we have to factor in.
Humans are a little bit disorganized.
I think we might have figured that out from the last two years.
Holy cow, it's ridiculous.
I keep talking about how it seems like the world is built out of toothpicks.
It's ridiculous.
I never knew how frail our institutions were until this crackdown.
tim pool
You know what's really crazy to me is like, as you get older, and when I was younger, I look at these big systems, the CEOs, the politicians and the things they do, and it felt like everything was very formal and planned and strategic.
And you know, the games I would play with my friends where it's like, we're gonna play freeze tag and the rule is, you know, if you're touching the slide, it's glue so they can't tag you and like, you just make these rules up and you implement it.
Now that I'm older, I'm like, man, that's really is everything.
It's like when you when you look at the Congress, like when we had Marjorie Taylor Greene here, and she's like, you go into Congress, and there's like five Democrats and five Republicans, and they're voting on bills by grumbling and groaning.
And like, no one's actually listening to or reading these bills.
Yeah, I was like, yo, it's no different than a bunch of kindergartners being like, I get to play with the football because I have brown hair and brown hair goes first.
Make it up.
ian crossland
I remember when we were starting up mines and I was learning about business.
It was basically a mentorship for me to learn about business.
And I was like, how do they like say what their business is worth?
How do you tell people what your business is worth?
You just make it up.
unidentified
Yeah, pretty much.
ian crossland
My company's going to be worth $50 million in five years.
Why?
Because we're going to sell 100,000 of these, and then the year after that, we're going to sell a million of them.
And it's just, do they believe you?
If they believe you, your company's valued at $50 million.
tim pool
Yeah, I know.
It's amazing.
delano squires
Sounds like every Shark Tank pitch that I've ever heard.
lydia smith
Yeah, seriously.
delano squires
I mean, I'll say this as it relates to the elections, right?
I think the last two years have shown that politicians are not particularly good at fixing issues that affect millions of people.
They're very good at causing problems for millions of people.
And I think Um, I could see people over the last two years who say, you know what?
I think I'm a libertarian.
We need fewer laws because fewer laws will inevitably or more laws will make more criminals.
So, you know, I've, I've heard, you know, black folks talk about this for years in terms of, um, the number of, you know, it's, it's illegal to sell loose cigarettes or it's illegal to, you know, panhandle or vend or do all sorts of other things in the city.
But the more laws you create, the more opportunities you have for police to come and enforce them.
And I think for a lot of people who may not have necessarily cared about, you know, loosey laws in New York City, they certainly care about having to wear masks outdoors at their kids' football games.
And when you see a lady getting tased because she's not wearing a mask outdoors, it'll make you think, okay, do we really want to give, you know, our elected officials more power?
So I understand the libertarians.
I understand new conservatives who say we just want smaller government.
Too much government is causing too many problems in our lives.
But one thing I hope all Americans do is to stop thinking that the people we elect to Congress, whether on a federal level or a state level, are going to fix our problems.
That's one of the biggest problems, I think.
And it just goes from, well, this party will fix it.
No, this party will fix it.
One of the things I like about, you know, what I see in terms of the decentralization of information and people starting new businesses is that, you know, small seems to be better.
I love to see people, particularly young people who say, you know what, I want to start a family.
I don't want to be a wage slave for my entire life.
You know, I think getting back to those first order things, family and church and institutions and community, is one of the ways we come out of this, because if we put all of our hopes in elected officials, we've seen that they're going to let us down every time.
tim pool
Church.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
You know, I think watching the de-religiousification of the country, the increase in secularism, it's not even a question of faith to me.
I think, you know, there's obviously many people who are Christian will argue that, you know, faith in God is a requirement or, you know, for the religious reason.
But there's no meeting place anymore.
There's no gathering.
There's no conversation.
There's no cohesion.
So Seamus, for instance, who's a good friend of ours, and he'll probably be here this week, you know, he goes to Mass.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
But when he goes there, he meets people.
He communicates.
He shares ideas.
That alone is a powerful force in creating and making sure communities stay together and stay strong.
You lose that, you don't got anything.
When do you talk to your neighbors?
ian crossland
I guess the problem I've got is I feel like the church co-opted community along the way.
The Catholic Church was like, we are the authority.
You come to us if you want to congregate.
We want to oversee it.
tim pool
I think you should talk to Seamus about that.
delano squires
I mean, I definitely felt that in my own personal life when my wife and I, we found a new church, you know, close to where we live now.
And at that point, you know, she was going in for a surgery.
Not anything major, but it was still, you know, she was going to be incapacitated for a couple of days and people just said, hey, what do you all need?
We'll bring food by, we'll send you gift cards and let us know if you need help with the kids.
And that community really does mean a lot.
So again, as a believer, a church's doctrine is important.
What it actually believes about the Bible is important.
But it's also having that community and that fellowship is really, really important.
So you have people there with you when it's time to grieve if somebody loses a loved one, and you have people there with you when it's time to celebrate.
Like one of the couples, they just had a baby boy.
And that's one of the things that we celebrate.
We send it around the newsletter.
Everybody's praying for them.
Everybody's, you know, volunteering to help them.
And I definitely do think that that church is obviously in a very, very important institution.
tim pool
Give a shout out to Luke, who is no longer with us.
ian crossland
Luke Rutkowski.
tim pool
He's in Florida.
In a better place.
Yeah, he's in a better place.
unidentified
Florida!
Yeah, Florida.
tim pool
No, West Virginia's pretty rad.
But, you know, he had a video from 10 years ago called, I think it's called Just Keep Going, You've Got Nothing to Lose.
I recommend it.
Everybody check it out.
And he just talks about how people, you know, millions of people are traveling on the subways of New York every day and they never talk to each other.
delano squires
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
So we decided to start talking to them and asking people questions.
And he shows like they're laughing and they're getting along with each other and stuff.
And I'm like, it's a great video.
It's got the piano music in the background.
That's on Luke's channel over at We Are Change.
You should definitely check out that clip.
Seriously, it's a good video and it's like 10 years old.
But it's just, it's amazing.
He's right.
New York, a city of, you know, millions of people and people never talk to each other.
They have no place where they gather and share ideas.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
I mean, universities perhaps, but it's not the same.
delano squires
And a lot of the kids at the universities, particularly if there's like NYU or Columbia, they're not even New Yorkers, right?
I do think technology has accelerated that process.
You know, everybody gets on, head in the phone, headphones on.
But even as a kid growing up in New York and taking the subway, you're right.
You definitely weren't talking to people, especially people you didn't know.
I get on, I eat my beef patty, I drink my Snapple, and mind my own business.
lydia smith
I think there's such a distinct overlap between the town square and the church.
For example, I've been going to church for the last, I want to say month, maybe month and a half, and it is incredibly refreshing to be around people who are, they're very nice, they're very generous, they really care about what they believe, they're talking about the mask mandate, and it's a very interesting way to see how this stuff is affecting real life people.
But you start to get a sense for what you've lost when you no longer have a church backbone.
I don't really even care if you believe exactly what they believe in.
I don't think they do either because they will support you.
They will bring you your casserole if you need help and they'll take care of your kids if you need it.
I think that's a big part of what we're lacking.
ian crossland
I've got a feeling it's mostly about the community and the belief in God or whatever.
Some sort of energy field that's bigger than this hard experience.
Whether or not it's church, I don't know.
I don't know.
I never really have gone to church.
I went a couple times when I was a kid.
One time I got stung by a bee.
I went to an outdoor church and I was like, I think that's a message from God.
I'm not going to do this anymore.
My parents never took me.
We never went on Christmas or any of that.
But I've learned in my adult years that this God energy, it seems to be real.
And even scientifically, it seems to be real.
So that, but that alone is not enough.
The community is so important.
So without church, I don't, I haven't really had much community.
I mean, where do you go for community anymore?
The internet, internet chat rooms?
delano squires
I hope not.
unidentified
I mean, that's where I was going.
And always 07, you know, two things, two things really quick.
delano squires
Um, Lydia, would you just mention in terms of, you know, sort of the, the church sort of Having an overlap with the public square, it makes me think of what Frederick Douglass talked about in terms of his type of conservatism.
He had three boxes of liberty.
The cartridge box, the ballot box, and the jury box.
I would add a fourth one, which is the soap box.
Right.
Being able to sort of express different views.
And I think social media can play that role at times, which is why censorship is so detrimental is because it stops us from being able to talk about things and share things.
But the other thing that I thought of, you know, even when you mentioned, you know, a belief in God, I'm sure you all are familiar with Yuri Bezmenov.
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
delano squires
When he gave his talk on ideological subversion and he got to the end, he says, okay, how do you get out of the demoralization phase?
He gave an answer that I did not expect.
He said, God.
Faith, you need something that's bigger than yourself.
lydia smith
Yes.
delano squires
You need something that people will actually be willing to die for because he said nobody's gonna die for two plus two equals four but millions of people have died for the things that they really really really believe and I thought that was a powerful point and I didn't expect to hear it from a you know ex-KGB officer But I think we're seeing, particularly over the course of the pandemic, that belief, family, friends, all of those things are important because you can have all of the material goods, you can have everything delivered by Uber or some other service, but if you don't have family, if you don't have friends, and you don't have anything to believe in that's sort of outside of yourself, it's tough.
tim pool
Let's go to Super Chats!
If you haven't already, smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, get your Super Chats in.
We'll read as many as we can get to.
And go to TimCast.com, become a member.
We're gonna have a members-only uncensored podcast going up around 11 or so p.m.
But let's read some of these Super Chats.
We got Matt V. He says, Please get Tom Woods on, author of Nullification and Michael Malice's mentor.
Partial joke.
ian crossland
Tom Woods, jury nullification?
Is that what his nullification book's about?
unidentified
I don't know.
ian crossland
No, I don't know.
tim pool
It's just nullification.
So we're gonna try and get him on?
lydia smith
Yeah, I'm working on it.
He's very, very busy, but yes.
tim pool
Very busy guy.
ian crossland
Did you see about Michael Malice?
I missed that last part.
lydia smith
His mentor.
ian crossland
Oh, that's Michael Malice's mentor?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't know if that's actually true.
lydia smith
I believe it is, yeah.
unidentified
Oh, really?
lydia smith
Yeah, they did a podcast together.
tim pool
Really?
Yeah, he's great.
So he's like Michael Malice, but better.
So we don't need to invite Michael anymore.
lydia smith
Oh, I'll let Michael know.
tim pool
Michael is always welcome on this show.
We're big fans of Michael Malice.
He's one of the best trolls ever, and I look forward to him as press secretary.
This is going to be one of the greatest moments in American history.
unidentified
Absolutely.
tim pool
The media deserves it, you know?
lydia smith
Oh, they sure do.
tim pool
All right.
What is this?
Murph says, gotta give a super chat for Ian's late night smooth jazz radio host intro.
Keep being you, bud.
ian crossland
Okay.
lydia smith
Hello.
tim pool
Ryan McCafferty says his name is Luke Rudkowski.
lydia smith
Is it?
tim pool
The last time Luke was here and left, we made the same joke.
Luke's in a better place.
unidentified
Yeah.
Florida.
lydia smith
Yeah, Florida.
ian crossland
Never stops being funny.
tim pool
All right, let's grab what we got here.
lydia smith
It is warm there.
tim pool
Bitcoin event, huh?
Stan says, if you're going to the Bitcoin event, look up Anthony Pompliano, the best business show, great crypt and business guy, Miami local.
Yes, I think we've actually reached out to him before about coming on, but he's also a super busy guy.
So people need to realize, too, it's, you know, these big podcast hosts.
They have their own shows, you know, like Anthony, I'm pretty sure he does his own show, right?
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
So like asking them to, you know, cancel their show to come on ours is just not gonna happen.
But we're lucky enough that people like Alex Jones are always willing, you know, he's fun.
He's fun to have around and have a conversation with.
Ben D says, my house rep held a town hall call today and after I asked a question about misappropriated wasted federal spending my chat function was disabled.
Wow!
That's like sitcom level humor, you know?
That's a good sketch idea.
ian crossland
Crying tears of joy.
tim pool
Crying tears of joy?
Alright, James Rogers says, guys, we're not going to war.
It's not around the corner.
It's all media bait.
We didn't go to war over the USS Pueblo or Gary Powers, and these were legit acts of war.
Troops are forward deployed for MAD deterrence, that's all.
Yeah, you know, we'll see for sure.
I'm just saying I think it's possible, but I don't think Biden could handle it.
And I was reading that he's scared because he'll botch it like Afghanistan.
ian crossland
I did see that Britain wants to back the suspension of Russia from the SWIFT payment system.
lydia smith
That's something they've been talking about since 2014.
ian crossland
That's wild.
So they're trying to do the economic route.
No one wants a hot war.
Most people don't.
tim pool
Waffle Sensei says, Ian, if Luke is returning to Dagobah because he's Skywalker, does that make Tim Han Solo, Lydia Leia, and you Chewbacca?
ian crossland
Yeah, definitely.
tim pool
Because I approve that message.
ian crossland
I love you, thank you.
tim pool
I don't know about any of that stuff, but Ian as Chewbacca I think actually kind of makes sense.
ian crossland
You're not the first, and you won't be the last.
That's basically how I sound anyway to people who don't understand me.
tim pool
All right, Alex says, No Luke, we nuke!
In all seriousness though, Kyle Rittenhouse was just on Candace Owen's show.
Any chance you could get him on the show?
Uh, perhaps.
What I said last time is, you know, after he was found not guilty and we all celebrated, congratulations, and we were very happy to hear that he was, you know, justice was being served properly.
Everybody's trying to get him on the show.
He was at Tucker, and I was like, let's wait until we're a little bit past this, and then we can bring him on to talk politics with his voice.
I don't like the flavor of the month stuff.
If we're gonna have him on, it's gonna be for him to talk about his ideas, his experiences, and what he thinks moving forward.
lydia smith
He's very young, too.
tim pool
As opposed to everyone's Google searching his name, so get him on the show now.
I'm not accusing anybody of having done that.
It's just what media companies do.
So I went through it with Occupy Wall Street.
After Occupy, I get all this press attention, and then they're like, hire him. And then I was just like, dude, you only want to
hire me because there's press that you want to buy. I don't want to be involved in that,
man. All right.
Yellow Cafe says, did Luke leave the show or is he just not present today?
If he left, why did he leave?
If he's just not present, when will Luke be back?
Luke was really scared.
You know, with all the security stuff going on, he actually cried.
lydia smith
He did.
He peed his pants.
tim pool
I gave him a hug.
That's right.
He was crying.
ian crossland
He was so sad.
tim pool
He was crying.
And he hid in the closet.
unidentified
Yeah, he did.
tim pool
And he's not here to defend himself or refute these accusations.
So it's too bad for him.
Okay, no, in all seriousness, Luke has always just been our winter friend.
He comes when it's colder up north.
Snowbird.
Yeah.
It's weird because it's still cold here.
I guess it's way colder up in New Hampshire.
It's not as cold.
But then he hangs out for about Christmas, and then he goes down to Florida.
And I think actually Luke will be back in about a week.
lydia smith
Yeah, we've got a big show on the 3rd.
tim pool
Yeah, so, and we'll see, but then Luke will probably just go back.
So he'll probably be back just like, you know, periodically.
And then probably once it starts getting cold again around fall, Luke comes back and sits in the chair.
But maybe we bring in someone else to fill that Luke chair and then, you know, I don't know, then maybe that's it for Luke because he doesn't want to be on the show anymore.
lydia smith
Oh, snap.
Sorry, Luke.
tim pool
Luke wants to be able to go and do whatever he wants and then come back and join the show whenever he wants.
And I'm like, for sure, we're always glad to have him because Luke's fantastic.
ian crossland
But we're like, why did you take off your targeting system?
Put it in.
He's like, I use the, he hears like you using the force right now.
We're like, why'd you take off your targeting system?
tim pool
Luke, you were here.
That's not what Ian would say to him.
ian crossland
Oh, I just, yeah, yeah.
delano squires
You know what I'm saying.
tim pool
Yeah, Star Wars jokes.
James Rogers says, I have a question for Mr. Squires.
My friend is a huge fan of The Blaze.
I find it irritatingly based, but you're a man who cares about journalism, so I respect that.
My question is, how do you guys vet your stories and sources?
delano squires
Hmm.
I'm not sure I'm qualified to answer that question.
I mean, I'm a contributor.
I'm not on the, um, sort of the straight news side.
So, um, I'm not, I'm not sure how that happens.
I mean, me personally, if, if I make any contention or claim, um, about something that's factual, I certainly make sure that I check it, you know, twice at least.
So if I make a falsifiable claim, you can be pretty certain that I know it to be true and I have the evidence to back it up.
So I would hope that everybody else at The Blaze does something similar.
But I mean, I think that's a general criticism for media and journalism in today's day and age.
tim pool
All right.
Blue Sea says, Delano, just checked out Civitas' website.
Thank you for your work, doing the work to lift people up and educate families.
ian crossland
Well, Civitas.
delano squires
So it's a company I created early last year.
So what I hope to do is be able to work with organizations that serve communities, so help organizations that help people.
So that's part of what I would like to do.
Consulting.
I mean, when I first started, I had one particular thing in mind, but as we move forward, you know, if there are opportunities to, you know, work with local nonprofits that, you know, trying to help K through 12 kids or return to citizens, you know, ex-offenders, you know, single moms, whoever, promote marriage and family and education.
I'm all for that.
ian crossland
Where can people, is there a website people can check out?
delano squires
Yeah, it's CivitasCG, C-I-V-I-T-A-S-C-G.com.
tim pool
All right.
Debbie Grumman says, I've never heard such exact and complete truth.
We are being led by cowards, cowardly media, big tech, and government.
We the people are the brave.
unidentified
For sure.
All right.
tim pool
David says, I didn't do it.
I spent zero days locked in my house.
Reminds me of that meme where it's the NPC face saying, if you just comply, we'll get our freedoms back.
And the person says, if you don't comply, you never lose your freedom in the first place.
And the NPC just gets mad.
delano squires
Yeah.
ian crossland
I also tweeted out in the United States, we don't have freedoms.
We have freedom.
And this weird government bull crap, corporate crap, trying to make you think that you can split freedom apart and take pieces of it.
That's not how it works.
delano squires
Yeah.
I mean, 2020, we had a kid, you know, we celebrated, you know, another kid's birthday.
We went out to restaurants.
We went to, I think we went to a wedding, at least one.
We just, you know, lived our life.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
That's one of the reasons we came out here from the Philly area, because I could see how bad it was getting.
And now out here, it's like I haven't even noticed it since we got out here.
ian crossland
Geez, I went for a walk earlier today.
The air is so clean.
lydia smith
It's nice out here, yeah.
tim pool
Blue Sea says, Neil Young told Spotify you can have Joe Rogan or me, not both.
I deleted my Neil Young from my list.
Yeah, I can do without Neil Young, dude.
Not only that, but like all of your stuff's on YouTube anyway.
lydia smith
So old.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
Shout out to Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young.
tim pool
I love those guys.
All right.
Let's, uh, there's the, uh, there's a quote.
Let's see.
So, um, some people are saying simp is short for simpleton.
ian crossland
Simpleton.
tim pool
It's a pimp C reference.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
And it also has an acronym, which is suckas.
Uh, let me, let me see.
Where is it?
Uh, uh, idolizing mediocre P word.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So I thought it was an acronym.
I just couldn't find it.
tim pool
So Ian was correct.
unidentified
I was wrong.
tim pool
I stand corrected.
Simpleton.
ian crossland
Thank you.
Good, sir.
tim pool
Elmer Fudd says, Wow, Tim, you have great guests.
I look forward to hearing Professor D. His ability to access the underlying root of problems is spot on.
I learn something from him every time I hear his assessments.
The fruit of his message is hope.
unidentified
Respect.
Wow.
tim pool
Very nice.
All right.
Carl Andrews.
Oh, man, this is a big one.
This is a big story.
Last week, a truck carrying 100 test monkeys for CDC crashed in central PA.
Started out four missing monkeys and changed to three.
Please Google TV10 Danville PA monkeys and check article.
Very fishy.
The woman's remarks to the news.
Yeah, like the monkeys got away.
unidentified
That's suspicious.
tim pool
It's winter.
You know, they won't survive, to be honest.
delano squires
It's like Fugitive.
ian crossland
Yeah, nothing bad could happen.
unidentified
It's like Fugitive.
No, it's winter.
tim pool
The monkeys will just freeze to death.
ian crossland
That's terrible.
tim pool
Yeah, it's sad.
It's very sad, but it's true, unless Dina figured it out.
ian crossland
I got Cassandra texting me some video of her monkey.
It's really awesome.
Cass, thank you.
I love you.
unidentified
All right, let's grab some super chats.
tim pool
There was a really good one I saw.
I want to see if I can...
Carrie Carpenter says, Howard Stern actually said, anyone unvaxxed that gets COVID shouldn't get care from a hospital and should go home and die.
ian crossland
Wow.
tim pool
Yikes, man.
Howard Stern lost it, man.
delano squires
Yeah.
Big time.
tim pool
Mike Darusha says, Harrison Bergeron, please read it and at least talk about the premise of forced equity.
We have!
lydia smith
Talk about it all the time!
tim pool
Yeah, I know.
We talk about it several times.
ian crossland
It's a short story.
Have you read it before?
lydia smith
Great short story.
ian crossland
It's fascinating.
delano squires
No, I don't think so.
ian crossland
It's like about this guy.
It's about a dystopian future where instead of propping up the greatest among us, they clip off everybody's wings.
And like, so the people that can sing really well have throat pinchers on.
tim pool
And so, this guy... Strong people have to carry weights.
ian crossland
One of the guys like sheds off all of it and is just this... And you see what society... It's well worth reading.
lydia smith
Yeah, it's short.
tim pool
Yeah, it's very short.
All right.
Let's see.
unidentified
Wait, what?
tim pool
Aussie says, without that Luke putting up his dukes, it ain't no fluke, it's making me puke.
lydia smith
Glorious.
Thank you for that.
tim pool
Here's a good one.
Bobby Bob says, my favorite is that black people can't be racist, but people like Candace Owens are.
Schrodinger's racist.
That's a good one.
Schrodinger's racist.
ian crossland
What do you feel about that whole whiteness and blackness is a thing that's not skin color related?
Political whiteness?
delano squires
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, these concepts are so, you know, in many ways amorphous that they just get used by whoever wants to use them for whatever purpose they have at the time.
So when the National Museum for African-American History and Culture came out with this thing about, you know, white culture and whiteness, and it listed the nuclear family and objectivity, I was like, this kind of stuff is trash.
It's bad.
It's bad sociology and again, I always try to try to reach for something sort of that underlying problem and I think bad sociology flows out of bad theology.
So when you don't understand the nature of human beings, you're bound to take things that are common across people.
And ascribe them to whatever characteristic is different in that particular person.
So, um, I think a lot of it is junk.
And to your point, once you go from blackness being something about, you know, phenotype and looks and genetic background to political views, then I think, I mean, the ship has sailed altogether.
So political blackness, I think is that concept is nonsense.
tim pool
Yeah, I agree.
You know, because Luke, who's Polish, they call a person of color and he's got blonde hair and blue eyes.
But for real, they say Slavic people are people of color because it's political.
It's not makes no sense.
delano squires
Yeah.
tim pool
All right.
David with a good point.
Y'all like assuming things about Truth Social.
How about wait till it comes out and see how it's constructed?
It's a very good point.
Just that there's reports coming out, Devin Nunes is saying they want to make it family-friendly.
And I don't think that's completely wrong.
They have to make sure illegal content isn't on the platform and they're going to use that service for it.
So we'll see.
Maybe they'll end up doing a much better job and maybe we'll all really enjoy it.
ian crossland
Yeah, you know, I realized I don't want to slam on it too hard.
I'm just pointing out warning signs I see in the beginning.
But same, I went through this with Chris Pavlosky at Rumble.
There was a time when I was going hard on when Dave sold Locals to Rumble, and I could have turned on Rumble and just been like, the demon, proprietary, bad.
I don't play, I don't want to play that game because we're all in this together.
And the people that build Truth Social might end up making a fantastic piece of software with it.
tim pool
Same is true for Getter.
You know, when someone said, you may have, you know, killed Getter, how do you feel?
I'm like, not good?
Getter might be bad in terms of, you know, like, Getter might be worse than Gab in terms of free speech, but they're better than Twitter in terms of free speech.
So for all of their faults, it's still an increment in the right direction, I guess.
Take what you can get, you know?
Here's some praise.
E. Jackson says, love Delano, our modern Thomas Sowell.
Praying, uh, what was it?
Praying God gives him an even bigger platform.
Thomas Sowell is still around though, isn't he?
delano squires
He is.
Yeah, he is.
Yeah.
ian crossland
Very good show.
Have you talked to him?
delano squires
I, I have not.
When I see comments like that, I think about Bill Parcells and what he said about Tony Romo when he first started to get a little bit of shine.
He said, put away the anointing oil.
So like, I'm, I'm just trying to grow where I'm planted.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, man, do your thing and let it go.
lydia smith
High praise, though.
delano squires
It is.
tim pool
The Town of Souls.
delano squires
I appreciate that.
tim pool
Amazing.
delano squires
Yeah, of course.
lydia smith
OG, yeah.
tim pool
Smart fella, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
All right.
ian crossland
What is this?
tim pool
Jeffo says, have you guys heard of Quux?
It was created by Millie Weaver, used to work for InfoWars, but is now creating this great device, even better and secure software.
I have not.
I know nothing of this.
unidentified
Quux.
tim pool
Take a look into it, though.
Seems like something Ian's... How do you spell?
ian crossland
Q-U-X?
tim pool
Q-U-X.
unidentified
Hmm.
lydia smith
Q-U-X.
tim pool
Anorak says, last I knew the people who think they are animals trapped in the wrong bodies were called Therians, as in Therianthrope or animal person.
Furries are people who like stuff with anthropomorphic creatures.
Humans are boring.
Yeah, furries dress up like cartoons.
They don't dress up like actual animals.
Like they're animals, but like cartoon animals.
And there was like, I was reading an article about it, and like one of the furries was wearing like Mega Man armor.
So they were like, they were like a wolf Mega Man, I guess.
And I'm like, that's clearly not an identity about being an animal.
They're like Mega Man, but with a wolf face.
So whatever that was.
Hey man, people can do whatever they want.
Cosplay is fun, you know.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's when they some I saw one being like it but it's when they take their fantasy cosplay and then they want to dictate other people's behavior.
That's when I take issue with like putting the litter box.
I don't apparently that didn't happen the litter box in the bathroom.
tim pool
Well, there wasn't that it wasn't that a Joe Rogan joke.
lydia smith
I don't know.
Never heard that one.
tim pool
I did hear that- Maybe it wasn't Joe, but some comedian said that they went to a- they were at a show and they went to a- I think it was Rogan.
They went to a hotel.
And the hotel had a furry convention or something.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
Google it!
ian crossland
I just- I heard that recently.
lydia smith
I did hear there was a teacher who got in trouble for not meowing back to a student.
tim pool
No, there's no way.
lydia smith
I thought she got fired, but I gotta check that out.
I'll double check that.
I'll fact check myself.
tim pool
I don't know, man, but I don't know.
At this point, I'm willing to believe anything.
lydia smith
Yeah, honestly.
delano squires
Yeah.
I mean, that's a sign of a civilization in decline when you can't distinguish between truth and satire.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I gotta tell you, man.
All right, here we go.
We got a mean one for Ian, but I'm gonna read it.
unidentified
Thanks.
tim pool
Brian says, Ian is birth control.
Get rid of that anti-American hippie, please and thank you.
About to unsubscribe with the others over this anti-red, white, and blue rhetoric.
I think that's supposed to be like over-the-top sarcasm, right?
ian crossland
I am the birth control.
tim pool
No, I mean, like, the point about unsubscribing is just they actually like Ian so much they're making the joke that no one would unsubscribe over Ian's... That's what I'm picking up there.
ian crossland
I think that guy got triggered by me smacking Truth Social around.
Sorry, man.
Some people get really, like, emotionally attached to the red, white, and blue American nationalism storyline.
I'm just... I just kind of see a bigger picture.
tim pool
I'm more than happy to argue with Ian over that kind of stuff, but the issue for this show is we want to get our facts straight and we want to have discordant opinion on the show.
We don't want to be an echo chamber.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And so, you know, if your concern was like, Ian is factually incorrect and is consistently like that what someone was pointing out, I'd be like, okay, that is an issue, Ian.
You got to make sure you read the stuff.
And we've had those conversations when like, you know, talk to Seamus about religion and Seamus has challenged you.
That's fine.
But like someone having an opinion over something when you're more than willing to, you know, entertain a conversation.
ian crossland
The way I came at this story was I, we saw a little sapling growing and I took a huge mallet and smashed it and was like, fascism!
And it's like, yo, you just acted really extreme to this conversation.
tim pool
But you did this with Trump the other day.
ian crossland
I see it growing into this beautiful fascist tree.
So that's why I brought it up.
tim pool
You were like, do you think, I can't remember exactly what you said, but you were like, do you think Donald Trump, you know, you know, really something like cares about people?
And then I can't remember what the guess was.
They were like, you know, I think he's in it for himself.
And then you just got really mad.
You're like, Trump, I knew it.
He's just doing this.
And I was like, you're assuming that I was like, you just literally made up a reason that got you really angry.
ian crossland
You know, Trump aside, red, white and blue aside, if this code base for truth social was available, free software and all the code was available, I would have no problem.
I'd be so jazzed about this.
lydia smith
Oh, I have to say, before we move on, it's from January 15th in the Post Millennial.
Teacher alleges she was fired for not meowing back at student who identifies as a cat.
Quote, we no longer need your services if you can't identify with all the children in the classroom.
The substitute teacher alleges the school's office said.
That's fun.
tim pool
I'm sorry, man.
As much as I'd like to believe it, I'm going to need to watch a video or something because that's not enough.
unidentified
Yikes.
tim pool
All right, let's see what we got.
Austin Walter says, make it illegal to invest 401ks in hedge funds investment outside the US.
They don't pay taxes on profits, keep the money invested here.
Interesting.
Well, then maybe companies just jump ship, you know?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Tim and guys, when my brother visits, we rock out to IRL.
He was always based, but now he's more knowledgeable.
He likes the long-haired guy, lol.
ian crossland
Who's that?
Who's their son?
tim pool
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.' 's brother.
ian crossland
Dude, that's awesome, Raymond.
Sup, dude?
tim pool
There you go.
Aris Roy says the super chat is for Ian.
I started listening to this as a center curious male and really disliking Ian.
After he said he did LSD one time and talked to bugs, he promptly became my spirit animal.
ian crossland
Yeah, they communicate through dance.
Oh, amazing.
tim pool
That was really funny.
He was like, one time I was hanging out with a bunch of bugs and I was on LSD.
ian crossland
You want to talk about communication?
Last night I was listening to the water drip in my sink.
You guys should try this someday.
And I think it's whatever the bacteria, you hear it playing a melody, like dude, Or Dianne, you gotta chill out on the LSD.
lydia smith
No LSD!
ian crossland
And what you do is just like with birds, when birds chirp, if you mimic them back to them, they stop, they hear you, and then like, oh my gosh, he's communicating with us.
lydia smith
Really poorly.
ian crossland
Same with the bacteria in that drain.
If you start singing back the melody that it's dripping, it starts dripping with you, it'll start playing back to you, and like communicating with you.
tim pool
Ian, I don't think that's correct.
ian crossland
It might not be the bacteria.
It might just be the water, but it seems only in, like, bacteria-laden sinks that I hear that.
delano squires
Oh, boy.
tim pool
All right.
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, boy.
lydia smith
Oh, boy.
tim pool
I was like, what is happening?
unidentified
All right.
ian crossland
Communicating with the non-humans.
tim pool
Nevermore says, hey, Tim, do you have any Tales of the Inverted World t-shirts planned or on the way?
We do now.
We do now.
lydia smith
Since you just said that.
tim pool
Let's get some of those shirts, and we'll have them for Tales from the Inverted World.
I'm really excited for season two and the new book coming out, Yo, I don't want to, I don't know if I can give away this.
I think I just got to say it guys.
Like somebody died during the investigation.
Like one of the sources.
unidentified
Whoa.
Yeah.
tim pool
Some crazy stuff's going on.
unidentified
Wow.
Yeah.
tim pool
This is going to be crazy.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Investigating lost Confederate gold.
Some people do not want it to be found.
I'm excited.
It's crazy.
I'm like, I can't believe the stories are so insane that, uh, like they're so like We often get people on the website commenting, saying, I don't like reading fiction.
And then Shane, who's the author, Shane Cashman, has to say, like, this is a true story.
lydia smith
It's not fiction.
tim pool
It's not fiction.
Like, we're investigating this stuff.
It's real.
And then people are like, no.
Like, yes, they're true stories.
Crazy stuff.
I'm really excited for this.
Somebody puked.
We get it.
Luke's not here.
lydia smith
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Keep a bucket handy.
tim pool
Michael Sullivan says, I agree with your point, Tim, but a red, white, and blue theme Truth Social wouldn't exactly clash with the French or Russian flag.
Keep up the good work, Tim Cass.
We appreciate you.
That's it.
Truth Social.
It's Russian.
unidentified
Yup.
It's a Russian sign-up.
Oh my gosh!
lydia smith
I knew it.
tim pool
Alright, we got this one from YWB, and it's a bunch of letters.
Yeah, I was talking to a dude, um, maybe about six, maybe eight months ago.
10 years, the forever wars woke ideology failed foreign policy, illegal Vax
mandates, skyrocketing suicide rates and our corrupt leadership are destroying
our military.
We are going to lose a lot of good people in the next war.
Yeah, I was talking to a dude maybe about six, maybe eight months ago.
Yeah, it's been a while now.
And he was, it was a guy who he said he has a career military and he was hoping
to stay in the military his whole life, retire.
And he quit.
He was like in his he was an officer.
He was in his early 30s, I guess.
And he was just saying it's gone too crazy.
delano squires
Yeah.
tim pool
So he's going to go private.
He can't do it.
ian crossland
Has this ever happened in the history of American military where people just quit en masse because they disagree with policy?
delano squires
Not that I could think of, honestly.
tim pool
Maybe, but I don't know.
It's just, it's like we're about to be getting into some war in Ukraine, potentially, or war with China.
And we have these, you see the women doing the bosom dancing on TikTok, the army girls?
The viral video where they're shaking their chests, you know, whatever the dance is.
ian crossland
Six girls, six women.
tim pool
Clip that one for a GIF.
They're doing it like where they, you know, slam their chest and I'm like, it's really great choreography.
I'm really, it's great.
I wonder if Russia is sitting there being like, oh no, they're going to beat us in the dance off and then we lose.
lydia smith
That's how it works.
ian crossland
That would be cool to get some Russian troops, some American troops to do a dance off.
delano squires
Yeah, I saw, it might have been on Tucker Carlson, where he played different clips.
I can't remember.
It was on a conservative show where they played the clips from the Russian recruitment ads, the Chinese recruitment ads, and then the American recruitment ads.
And for the first two, what you get a sense of is the country saying, sign up to fight for us because we are a country that's worth defending.
So the point of the ad was about service to country.
Our ads were, sign up to fight for us because this will be one way that you can self-actualize and pursue your dreams.
So, like many things in our country, it was infected with sort of the worst types of narcissism.
And it's all about me, me, me, me, me.
And I think when you have people who are willing to die for their country because they love it that much, and then you have others that think that their country is sort of a cesspool of racism and white supremacy and patriarchy, you're not going to be fighting on an even playing field.
ian crossland
You know, the problem I've got right now is I'm willing to die for the ideals that the American Constitution laid out, but I'm not willing to die for this fascist government.
tim pool
Well, that's the thing, man.
When we had, when people truly believed in this country, they were willing to die for it.
Now we're at a point where we know the politicians are corrupt, the corporations are corrupt, and people are just like, why bother?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
So they increased the sign-on bonus to like $50,000 recently from up from 40 or something like that.
So it's, they're just, they're just, that could be inflation, you know what I mean?
But I think, I don't know how you're going to convince people to want to join into that service, you know?
delano squires
And to be clear, I don't think... No country is perfect, obviously.
I mean, we're talking about Russia and China.
And even in America's history, there was a time when the Tuskegee Airmen were fighting for a country in which they couldn't even get served in parts of the South when they came home.
But I think most people thought of it...
It's both the nation and its government and also the people.
And we're to the point now where our leaders are constantly telling us that the country that they lead is hopelessly corrupt, racist, and patriarchal.
And that is the big difference.
tim pool
Fight for it.
delano squires
Yeah.
tim pool
All right, everybody, here's what we're going to do.
You're going to smash the like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends, go to TimCast.com, be a member for that special members-only segment coming up around 11 or so p.m.
is when we publish it.
And then I think what we'll do is we're going to recast Luke.
So we need someone who is a Polish-born American immigrant to America, anarchist, and you got to have blonde hair, blue eyes, and you got to say exacerbate in both.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
And then we'll have our great value Luke Rudkowski.
ian crossland
All right.
tim pool
It actually would be really funny for the vlog if we did that.
So we should we should put out a call for anybody who looks who can look and act like Luke and then we'll do a gag where in the vlog we're like, who's gonna be our new Luke Rudkowski?
All right, everybody, you can follow the show at Timcast IRL basically everywhere.
Follow us on Instagram for clips.
You can follow me at Timcast basically everywhere.
Delana, you want to shout anything out?
delano squires
Sure!
Again, you can check out my writing on The Blaze.
I write columns twice a week and appear twice a week on Fairless with Jason Whitlock.
And obviously, plenty of shows to check out on The Blaze for whatever it is that you're looking for.
And then you can follow me on Twitter at Delano, D-E-L-A-N-O, Squires.
S-Q-U-I-R-E-S.
ian crossland
Great to see you, man.
delano squires
Likewise.
ian crossland
You guys can follow me at iancrossland.net and check out my socials.
Subscribe to me on Mines.
You can follow me on Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, all that stuff.
And Gab, not on my website yet, but I just kicked up my Gab account.
And man, the response on that website is incredible.
That is a place where people want to communicate.
It's very apparent from my first week there or the last week of mine there.
So check me out there and I'll see you soon.
lydia smith
Very cool.
So what Ian was saying about bacteria in the faucet actually made me think because there is a concept called the music of the spheres, which is an ancient scientific idea of there actually being like a music that can be heard in your soul that comes from the planets and all of this interesting stuff.
So you guys should definitely check that out.
Look it up.
I don't know if bacteria are in on it, but that sounds really interesting.
Anyway, you guys may follow me on Twitter and mine's at Sour Patch Lids.
tim pool
Man, you know, I'm just thinking now, I'm like, Ian's right and we're all just the idiots laughing at him.
We're so much smarter.
ian crossland
That's why I don't take anything personally anymore.
tim pool
Ian taps into this powerful network of interstellar beyond the veil or whatever.
All right, everybody, we're going to see you over at TimCast.com, so sign up.
Thanks for hanging out and we'll see you all then.
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