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Dec. 18, 2021 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool

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Timcast IRL - NBC Settles Lawsuit With Nick Sandmann w/Shane Cashman & Olivia Rondeau

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luke rudkowski

23:31

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09:20

tim pool

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unidentified		Peace out yo!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yesterday was pretty wild.
		Everybody's yelling at me.
		Got people tweeting up a storm.
		For those that didn't hear, we got pretty heated in the members segment.
		Man, so yesterday we had Ari the Rugged Man and we worked it out.
		We hugged it out.
		We got heated.
		There was some yelling.
		There was some standing up and slapping stuff.
		And that was all in the member segment.
		A lot of people just did not understand what happened.
		They thought it was on YouTube and it got deleted.
		It was never on YouTube.
		It was on TimCast.com.
		And that was the biggest member segment we've ever had.
		And I mean like a hundred times bigger than anything we've had before, which is crazy.
		It's bigger than Alex Jones.
		And it overloaded our site.
		But it was crazy.
		We'll talk a little bit about that in the show today, but I don't like getting carried away into the drama stuff.
		But I do think there's so much misinformation already about what happened, and we should talk about how we felt about how things were going, like what was going through our minds and stuff, as things got pretty heated.
		But, I mean, I don't know.
		I didn't even really think it was that big of a deal.
		I was like, man, wow, you know, crazy.
		But apparently a lot of people, like Daily Dot wrote this ridiculously fake article.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And there's something really interesting about what the Daily Dot wrote.
		They wrote that I called R.A.
		a racist prick, and then they go on to say that Tim Pool is white, and I thought about that, and I'm like, if I'm a quarter Korean, you know, two generations of mixed-race families, but I am definitively, factually white, and I'm like, that would be a really interesting precedent for their ideology as it pertains to all mixed-race people, you know what I mean?
		But we'll talk more about this.
		The bigger news is that Nick Sandman settled his defamation suit with NBC for a confidential sum, which sounds like it's probably a decent amount of money.
		Might not be as big as many people think, but, you know, we'll take a look at that.
		We got President Biden apparently calling Kamala Harris President... President Harris.
		Again, we got MSNBC saying Ron DeSantis's anti-woke bill is, what is it, codifying white supremacy or some other stupid trash?
		You know, man, it's Friday.
		How about we just chill, have a good time?
		We've got a bunch of people hanging out.
		We're hanging out with Olivia Rondo.
		How's it going, man?
unidentified		I'm so happy to be back.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You've got to pull up your mic.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		And talk up.
unidentified		Speak up.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		There we go.
unidentified		Hi!
unidentified		I'm so happy to be back.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Perfect.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So what do you do?
unidentified		Who are you?
		I'm Olivia Rondo.
		I'm a journalist and I consider myself to... You gotta get the mic real quick.
		Okay.
		Right up.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I'm turning you up.
unidentified		All right.
		Journalist and Liberty activist.
		You may have seen me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'll sound like you.
unidentified		Okay.
		Recently, I've been on Kennedy on Fox Business a lot.
		You may have seen me on there or an HBO talk show called Pause with Sam Jay.
		I was also on there this year.
		Perfect.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Sweet.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for coming. Thank you. You were here before too though. We got Shane Cashman.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		What's up? I'm the writer and host of Tales from the Inverted World. We just put out our first book,
		volume one, close contact with ghost simulation theory.
		Look at that, there's a book. I put down a lot of rabbit holes, look at a lot of weird stuff. It was
		fun.
		I'm happy to have it out.
		So you can go to invertedworldbook.com and get your copy right now.
		Pretty stoked to have it out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is, someone messaged me and they were like, wow, congratulations on starting a publishing house.
		And I was like, I don't know.
		Is that what it is?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		We are now.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Surprise.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was like, Hey Shane, can you make a book?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're like, yeah.
unidentified		I'm like, all right.
unidentified		Boom.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And then there's Luke.
		Surprise!
		I'm still here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Luke apologized to me a couple times.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I was like, because people don't understand, I knew Ari for a number of years now, and I'm like, this would be a great opportunity for everyone to come together and to talk, and I thought it was going to go a lot different than it would.
		And yeah, it was a little crazy.
		I know I did talk about, you know, starting a fight club at the house, but that kind of escalated really quickly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was a joke, actually.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was a joke, but Luke was talking about bringing like a personal trainer for people.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		No, no, I did.
		I hired a jiu-jitsu trainer for the house.
		It's in the latest vlog.
		You could actually watch our latest kind of exercise everyone in the house was participating in.
		We're going to be doing this weekly and now practicing and studying jiu-jitsu in the house.
		Not because of what happened last night, but because this was an initiative that we talked about doing for a very long time.
		Now we're doing it, so I'm very excited about that.
		I'm already working on I'm Not That Guy merch.
unidentified		Ah!
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Sarcastically, I'm not, you know, obviously.
		But anyway, today's merch that I'm wearing right now is, I would say, right on the nose.
		If you get it, you get it.
		Some people will not understand it, but if you will, it sends a very strong political message, and you can get yours on thebestpoliticalshirts.com.
		And when you do, you support me.
		Thanks so much for having me.
		Uh, and, uh, yeah, that was wild last night.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It was like Thanksgiving dinner.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I thought it was, I thought it was a really, really good show.
		I think what people don't realize is you got to have people who disagree with you.
		You can't just, and not everybody's going to articulate the way you, it's, it's not going to be some like two smart people, you know, or intellect intelligentsia types just sitting there being like, well, I humbly disagree.
		Like sometimes like people just saying you're wrong.
		I disagree.
		I think you're dumb.
		I think you're a liar.
		This was the way things go, man.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Do you think he'll walk away and question how he acted yesterday and think differently about his perception of the world?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
unidentified		I hope so.
unidentified		I don't know either.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I do.
		I, I, I, I, look man, I think he's racist.
		You know, but we'll, we'll talk about this cause we got a segment that talks a little bit.
		We got a couple of segments actually talking about this and I'll just, I'll just say one thing on this before we get started.
		It was weird to me that my stance was when I was little, my family got, my family home was, was attacked by white supremacists and he, the guy who was supposed to be opposing racism was, was the one laughing about that and saying, so what?
		I don't care.
		So I'm like, you really don't care.
		Like, how is it that I'm the guy saying white supremacists are bad and he was the one laughing saying, you know what I mean?
		But we disagree, we disagree.
		And that's fine.
		I don't got any beef.
		You know, I disagree with him.
		Anyway, Leah's here pushing buttons.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm also here.
		It is true that you have to meet people where they are and they're not always going to articulate in the way that you would like them to.
		I do love that we're able to bring people on and have these challenging conversations because I don't know that people believe that people really think this and people like him do.
		So it's worth learning about and continuing to grapple with.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes!
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		If you want to see exactly what happened in the episode yesterday, which, you know, everybody was going nuts about.
		I was trending on Twitter.
		It was nuts.
		That's the latest members-only segment with RA the Rugged Man.
		And you can check it out and make, you know, think for yourself, decide for yourself how you feel about it.
		But that was the biggest members-only segment we've ever had.
		In less than 24 hours, over 1,000 comments on it.
		The views, there was so much interaction on it that it overloaded our site.
		And we have hefty servers, so check that stuff out.
		But don't forget to like this video, subscribe to this channel, share this show with your friends.
		Let's talk about this first story.
		Ah, the media.
		The fake news.
		Nick Sandman settles defamation suit with NBC for confidential sum.
		Another slanted liberal news outlet has felt the sting of justice, according to Newsbusters.
		In a Friday evening tweet from the defamed man himself, former Covington High School student Nicholas Sandman announced that he had settled his defamation suit with NBC News for an undisclosed amount of money.
		With little fanfare, Sandman posted the tweet, reading, At this time, I would like to release that NBC and I have reached a settlement.
		The terms are confidential.
		Sandman sued NBC for over 250 million dollars.
		I don't I do not think he got anywhere near that But I certainly think this kid is gonna be pretty comfortable now I bring this up and that and that's the gist of this story many of us know the history of Nick Sandman and the Covington kids, but I want to I want to wrap this back into kind of the the current situation around what happened on this show and everything and just say I You know, when I'm having a conversation with someone, and they're obstinate, but their worldview is based on media lies, you need to look at the Nick Salmon case, you need to look at the Jussie Smollett case, you need to look at Russiagate, and you can start to understand why these people are trapped in this broken worldview that makes no sense.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Or even the Iraq war or the banker bailout.
		I mean, there's so many things that the corporate media, you know, spread lies about that were completely, absolutely not true at all.
		So this is, this Sandman case is a very important case because this is his third win.
		He has six lawsuits in total.
		One of the first major wins was, of course, against CNN that now I think should have a reputation of hurting children.
		I think there's an epidemic literally going on of CNN hurting children in so many unspeakable ways.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Veritas released the name, too.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes, yes.
		And then there's a number of producers.
		There's also Jack Posobiec, who claims that CNN was hiring this first producer that did unspeakable things to children for over a year, knowing that the FBI had data on him that he was doing very illegal things to children.
		Again, family-friendly show here, so we're not going to be talking about that.
		But again, CNN, there's an epidemic going around and it's not good for children.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		CNN has two producers, but they're two high-level producers.
		It was a guy working with Cuomo and a guy working with Tapper.
		That, to me, right away, I'm not gonna come... I wouldn't say that's enough for me to be like, clearly CNN is a gigantic, you know, crazy... But I would be like, I think it's time to actually do a deep investigation.
		Maybe subpoena some devices.
		Because if you've got two in this short amount of time that just popped out, and they're both at the top-level shows, I think CNN, I think the law enforcement, I want to start asking questions about who's working there, what they're doing.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Tim, two that we know about.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's what I mean.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		What don't we know about?
		That's what I'm saying, get in there.
		And then I was making a reference to of course Sandman because Sandman also sued CNN and won successfully after CNN also hurt him when he was a child.
		So again, I was being a little hyperbolic, a little sensationalistic there.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I'm happy to see Sandman get the settlement, but I would kind of want to see an apology from the outlets.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I want them to come out and be like, we broke your worldview, we fractured reality, and we're taking account, but that'll never happen.
unidentified		We lied.
		We slandered a literal child.
		We slandered a teenager for political propaganda purposes.
		Yeah.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Here's some money on the side.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And only to him.
unidentified		We're not going to get anything satisfactory.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The lie travels halfway around the world before the truth can strap on his boots.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because there's people still roaming the world who believe in the false reality from the beginning, like the Rittenhouse thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's, I believe, what was the catalyst for what happened last night.
		For sure.
		We had a dude here who was adamant in his belief about a false reality.
		And it's crazy.
		I mean, I think collectivism versus individualism plays a huge role in all of this stuff.
		But I think, as I often say, it's not left versus right.
		You know, it doesn't make sense.
		Like Vosh, for instance, he had a segment with a decent take on what happened the other day.
		But he called me a conservative, and by nature, then, if you're conservative, you're racist.
		And then I literally say, abolish the police on the clip.
		And he goes, thank you, Tim.
		And I'm like, I don't understand how you could claim there's anything conservative about wanting to abolish the police.
		Libertarian, anarchist, or whatever.
		But that's why I often say that what's really going on, which is exemplified by the Sandman thing, there are the people who know, who are discerning, who are looking for facts and evidence, and there are the people who don't and just believe narratives.
		And so when it comes to Kyle Rittenhouse, they are still wrong to this day.
		When it came to Nick Sandman, Bill Maher came out a week after the retractions and said BS info.
		And I was like, Bill!
		You had a week!
		He's getting sued too, isn't he?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't either.
		Look, man, I like Bill Maher for, you know, because he pushes back on this stuff, but it's like Bill Maher is so close to getting his head out of the sand.
		He's so close, but he's not quite there.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I love seeing his audience be hesitant to clap sometimes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It's one of the best things.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		They're scared, not hesitant.
		They're scared and terrified because sometimes, like, he's not the best, but sometimes he drops a truth bomb that wakes everyone up being like, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
		He's supposed to be telling us the narrative.
		We're supposed to clap when the sign tells us to clap.
		And they're like, Is this acceptable?
		And we're kind of looking around here because he does land some punches, but a lot of the times he does a lot of bidding for the establishment.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If any one of these people just read, Bill Maher doesn't.
		That's why when it came to like critical race theory stuff, Bill Maher was kind of like, well, if they're teaching kids this, that's bad.
		If they're teaching that, then it's good.
		And it's like, Bill, just read one article and you can say it's bad.
		But what ends up happening is, you know, a big portion of what we end up fighting over, especially yesterday, was critical race theory being banned in schools is stopping the teaching of racism.
		And it's like, that's not at all what any of us are upset about or worried about.
		But that's what they hear on TV.
		People like Bill Maher, who are supposed to be the opposition, regurgitate that talking point from bad actors.
		And then they think we're the ones who are making it up.
		You know, when it came to Kyle Rittenhouse, that's what really kicked off everything the other day.
		I'm like, we've had seven different witnesses to what happened with Kyle Rittenhouse on this show.
		I do not base my opinions off of, like, watching a random Twitter video from, you know, some leftist progressive.
		I was like, I wanna see the people who were there tell me what happened.
		And then we get that information, and I base my opinions off that.
		But if you base your opinions off of how CNN framed it, then you're gonna be getting sued when you talk smack against people like Nick Sandman.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely, and the facts matter here, and your words matter, and that's why you should always be careful.
		And if you make a mistake, you should issue a correction.
		A lot of these newspapers, a lot of these news organizations don't have anything holding them accountable.
		They publish a retraction, maybe on page 17, maybe in the little byline.
		But the build-up, especially when it came to the war in Iraq, when it came to Russiagate, had huge impacts on our daily lives that impacted us negatively, that hurt people, that killed people, that literally created some of the worst scenarios that destroyed any elements of truth.
		And honesty in our society.
		And they were still never held responsible for a lot of those bigger lies.
		So it's good to see, on a personal level, some accountability.
		But we still have to remember, by and large, the corporate media has a long criminal past with some very disgusting behavior that they still should be held responsible for, but they haven't.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think, you know, Ian says this a lot.
		He's not here tonight.
		He's on vacation for the holidays.
		But he says all of this started breaking apart when 9-11 happened.
		I think he's right.
		I think, you know, after 9-11, you get the Patriot Act, you get the Iraq War, the war in Afghanistan.
		You got this matrix narrative that started, it just started changing things.
		And then you get, I mean, to be completely honest, it may have actually even been the 2000 election, how contentious it was.
		But I think the authoritarianism that popped out of after 9-11 really changed how we live and work and view law enforcement authorities.
		Then you get this cultural back and forth.
		It escalates to the point where we end up with how social, I talk about how social media manipulation
		became a big prominent thing.
		But I believe that there was a major like fracture in the timeline around 9-11.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, 9-11 brought in that fear that translated to political power
		for the intelligence agencies and the government secret agencies
		that profited off of it in so many different ways.
		Whether it was insider trading.
		I don't want to get into the nitty-gritty.
		I don't want to get into the details here, but I would argue that what happened after 9-11 was trauma-based mind control.
		Literally people were shown thousands of people dying all at once and then blaming other people in other countries who had nothing to do with it saying they did it.
unidentified		They did it.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		They killed your friends.
		They killed your family members.
		They could kill you next.
		And they used that fear, that psychological warfare against the general public to say, just give us a little bit of your rights.
		Just give us a little bit of your free privacy.
		And of course, it started with, you know, just reasonable asks, and then it became more unreasonable, more crazy, more sinister, to the point where now the NSA knows almost every little thing you do.
		They track trace and database your activities.
		There's a secret social credit score that no one even wants to talk about.
		We're living in a database now where you need government permission to go to the supermarket in some places in the United States and that is absolutely insane draconian and crazy and it all started.
		I would argue, some people would argue it started even way before that, but I think the larger kind of snowball effect started on 9-11 and it kept rolling in this kind of trajectory of just give up your rights for your greater good, for the benefit of humanity.
		No, no, no, no, no, no.
		That's the biggest lie sold to people all throughout history and it always leads to tyranny and I think that's where we're at right now.
unidentified		I talk about this a lot because imagine how it is for the Generation Z that have grown up after 9-11.
		I'm going to date myself here.
		I was 8 months old on 9-11.
		So I grew up, I didn't know a time before the Patriot Act.
		I didn't know a time before TSA.
		I didn't know a time before Department of Homeland Security.
		You know, I grew up, my dad worked for the Department of Homeland Security, so I grew up just very comfortable with authoritarianism, with tyranny.
		I didn't understand, like, even, like, you know, back before 9-11, you can, like, walk up to the gate with your family to, you know, drop them off.
		I thought that was a movie trope.
		I didn't know that was an actual thing until I was, like, in at least middle school or high school, and I actually learned about TSA in 9-11.
		And so I think we have to really target zoomers because I'm a zoomer.
		I know how to talk to zoomers and actually like really drill this into their minds because they don't even realize how comfortable with the government overreaching their lot.
		Like they just don't even understand it.
		It took a long time for me to understand and I still can't even understand it because I don't, I don't know what it was like before, but I can read about it and I can learn about it.
		I could try to educate myself about it, but that's something we really need to talk more about with the younger generation, I think.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is what I've been saying about with the metaverse, that the younger generations, like the kids born today, are gonna grow up into the metaverse and be like, I don't know a world without it.
		Like you're saying, you don't know the world before all this stuff.
		That's what's gonna happen.
		They're doing it increment at a time.
		These cronies, they stay in office for 60 years or whatever, and then they implement that as generations move on.
		50 years, people are gonna be microchipped, and they're gonna be like, I don't know a world without the Neuralink.
		I've only ever known the metaverse.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		The metaverse will be there for the next lockdown.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		You don't need a high social credit score to go to the supermarket?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		You don't need to pledge your allegiance to the corporate technocratic overlords before buying your Snapple?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When they first locked everybody down, when we were in New Jersey, they said, don't go outside unless you absolutely have to.
		And so, they weren't gonna arrest you or ticket you, but they were like stay-at-home orders.
		So I had, in our backyard, we had big open space.
		I put on the Oculus, and I went to, they have a Google Maps app where you can go all over the place.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's fun.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the craziest thing was, you know where I went?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know where I went when I put on those Oculus in New Jersey?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Your neighborhood?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh, here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I went here.
		I went to Harper's Ferry.
		And I crossed the bridge, and I was going through the neighborhood, and then we started trying to figure out where to go, and I was like, let's go here.
		So I was actually wearing the headset and you can like look around on Google Maps and like move forward you click and you move forward and it was crazy to me that everybody's I'm like everybody's locked in these cubicles and they're little garbage little studios.
		I bet tons of people have this and they use it to like calm down.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		One of the craziest things about it and I think we're going here.
		I'm sure a lot of you guys have the Oculus.
		There's a theater mode where you put them on and you turn on a movie and it's a giant theater screen in front of you and you can move your head and there's a movie theater right in front of you when you're watching movies and the sound coming in your ears perfectly.
		That's where we're going.
		That's gross.
		And it's going to be, they're doing linked things now, like experiences.
		You're gonna be sitting in your chair and your, you know, 200 square foot bachelor pad.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I need to correct you.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		You're gonna be in your pod.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're gonna be in your pod.
unidentified		This is like, I will not be in the pod.
		I will not eat the bugs.
		I will not watch movies on the Oculus.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Are those the pods they're 3D printing in Switzerland?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Probably.
unidentified		There's also a lot of pods.
unidentified		Maybe!
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Ready to go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but you'll like, hey guys, you want to go to the movies?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you'll put on your Oculus, you'll go into the metaverse, and you'll be like watching Spider-Man with your friends sitting next to you, and you'll look to your left and you'll see their little like carrot avatar, and the guy in front of you is like a rabbit, and the guy behind him is a duck, and then someone's a caricature of, you know, Mickey Mouse or something.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I think, you know, a lot of people say The Matrix is a documentary for a very specific reason, because when you look at essentially what they're calling for, especially with the World Economic Forum, with a lot of very powerful globalists living in a pod, being connected to the virtual world, and then having bug paste and bug juice and this Artificially GMO created paste given to you as artificial meat.
		That's literally, you know, what was happening in the matrix with people in their little pods being used as bubbles, being used as batteries, literally being plugged into the virtual world.
		And I think someone, probably something like top tier globalists, either inspired the matrix or saw the matrix and was like, I want that.
		We're going to make that happen.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		What a dream.
unidentified		Yeah.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		You'll have nothing in the real world, but everything in the metaverse.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		You owe nothing and you'll be happy.
		You'll have no privacy.
		And that's essentially what they were calling for.
		They deleted that article, so people can't pull it up right now.
		But when you look at the article, when you look at a lot of their papers that they released, they essentially write the blueprint for what could be described as the Matrix, as you living in a pod, being their source of energy, their battery for their own personal enjoyment and benefit.
		Living in their world that they fully control.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I feel like the first seed of that is media manipulation, right?
		That's why we joke about how these people are in a cult.
		They're in the Matrix.
		Like, eventually they're gonna be in the Matrix, and they're gonna gleefully clap and cheer as they enter it.
		Which people told us in the Super Chats, that's actually Matrix canon.
		In, I guess, the Animatrix, humans chose to enter the Matrix in exchange for a paradise, but then the robots were like, it doesn't work, people don't want it, and then, like, switched it up on them.
unidentified		Whoa.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's talk about MSNBC.
		Let's keep it going with the fake news.
		We got this from Newsbusters.
		Another story.
		Insane!
		MSNBC host thinks DeSantis wants to codify white supremacy by banning critical race theory.
		MSNBC is known for its insane and vile commentary, which occurs on an almost daily basis.
		But this one might be the craziest comments this week.
		During a segment on MSNBC's The Beat with Ari Melber, fill-in host Jason Johnson discussed Governor Ron DeSantis his support of a bill that would ban critical race theory in public schools.
		Johnson claimed the proposed legislation, titled Stop Woke Act, is DeSantis' new effort to codify white supremacy for political gain.
		What does white supremacy mean?
		See, this was one of the big issues that occurred.
		One of the points of contention for the episode we did with Ari, the rugged man, was that I don't think even he knows his own definition of white supremacy.
		And a lot of people don't.
		Typically, the cultural right believes white supremacy to mean someone who believes they are genetically superior based on their race or the ideology of that.
		But the leftists, critical race theorists, believe white supremacy literally just means dominant culture.
		So when the left says white supremacy, they're referring to the fact that most people in this country are white.
		That's it.
		So they'll say things like, when they say, you know, Hollywood is a white supremacist institution, what people on the right hear is that they're accusing people in Hollywood of believing they're genetically superior based on race.
		What the left is saying is that it's an institution created by white people that mostly benefits the majority race in the country.
		Because of this, you end up with stories like this.
		They make no sense.
		So I would argue this.
		If you take away the word white supremacy and replace it for what they're actually saying, and say that Jason Johnson said the Stop Woke Act is DeSantis' new effort to codify traditional American culture for political gain, it's like, oh, yeah.
unidentified		Maybe.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, sure.
		I don't know.
		It doesn't sound nearly as insane.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think definitions matter here.
		And that's why in yesterday's interview, I was like, wait, what do you mean by this?
		What is your understanding of this?
		Because I think there was a disconnect with what we thought the words mean.
		And when it comes to the word white supremacy, it has been used and abused to such a silly level That I feel like in some instances it's losing its meaning.
		It's losing its power because it rained and MSNBC was freaking out saying it's white supremacy that caused it to rain.
		I'm being fascist here but they literally almost blame everything underneath the sun.
		If you're going on nature hikes that's white supremacy.
		Going out in nature is white supremacy and I'm like You're devaluing this word and this meaning.
		So for MSNBC to say this, as hyperbolic as they are, it's like, okay, what are you really trying to say here?
		Because you bastardized the language so much.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're zombies.
		They're zombies.
		Zombies and zombie lords.
		I loved that conversation we had when Ian was here.
		I was like, because NPC, zombies, kind of interchangeable.
		And then I mentioned, well, some of these people know they're lying.
		But I think the people at MSNBC who are saying this stuff are just mindlessly repeating the words.
		But there are people who know they're changing the definition of the words to manipulate people into joining their cult ideology.
		And so I asked, are zombies evil?
		And I think Ian first said, no.
		He's like, no, no.
		You know, they're neutral or whatever.
		And then we looked up, or actually, no, I think he said zombies are evil.
		In the official Dungeons & Dragons, zombies are evil.
		So even if you're mindless, like this is the perfect example of the banality of evil.
		Mindlessly going along with evil.
		I'm sorry that makes you evil.
		You know what I mean?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Luke, you're totally right.
		The definition changing and then they repeat the words that are not, they're not, they don't mean anything anymore.
		I'm calling this the death of language.
		That's how you create multiple realities because there's a whole group of people operating and Certain definitions and there's another group of people Operating in different definitions like the when the guy drove the car through the people to Christmas parade We saw a lot of tweets and headlines.
		That was a car that drove through PS UV.
		That's you're killing language there, right?
		It was an accident But if it was someone else who looked differently, they would sensationalize that to make it very specific to make it You know you afraid of that It's almost as if it's Orwellian.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		It's almost as we're going through double speak, which I've heard of that.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		And I think that we could relate to that since, of course, even scientific definitions of herd immunity, vaccines are being changed right in front of our eyes when it meant something else previously before.
		And I think the same thing is happening with white supremacy.
unidentified		The word racist changed.
unidentified		That went from being just prejudice against somebody because of their race to being about powers and systems and oppression and prejudice and white people or black people can't be racist and white people are only they can only just have prejudice against them.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Larry Elder is the black face of white supremacy.
unidentified		Yeah I mean it just it has no meaning it's watered down and then but it's like crazy that these audiences either love that they're changing the definition or don't realize it but either way it's the same end result and it's evil.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's a couple of the issues, you know.
		And I gotta say, like, we all really want to talk about what happened last night, but it really was a good example of the culture war.
		And what happens afterwards.
		So one of the things that happened afterwards is Vosh.
		We've had him on the show a couple times.
		He's made progress.
		I have great respect.
		When he first came on the show, he called me far-right.
		Yesterday, or maybe earlier today, he called me a conservative.
		So he's moving me closer to the middle.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That's almost a liberal.
unidentified		Almost, I'm getting close to being a centrist.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But he actually defended me.
		He actually, he made a really good point.
		He said, he said something like, let's be real guys.
		If this was any other mixed race person explaining they experienced racism and a white person was laughing in their face and insulting them, you would be on that person's side.
		But because it's Tim Pool, you want to be mad at him.
		And I was like, wow.
		And then Vaush went on to say, Tim Poole is a conservative, and then of course that means he's racist.
		And I was like, oh, come on.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Come on, so close.
unidentified		You're so close.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then I go, and then he presses play, and I go, I want to abolish the police!
		And he goes, thank you, Tim.
		And I'm like, bro, the problem is, everybody shared one small clip.
		So the narrative becomes something untethered to reality.
		If any one of these people would just actually take their heads out of the sand and consume media to better understand it, then a lot of this might stop happening.
		But the other issue is, when it came to the actual conversation with R.A., many of these people don't agree that he is being racist because in their new moral framework, or lack thereof, White people are allowed to insult people who are not white, and that's not racism so long as their ideology is in line with the tribe or the cult.
		So when they say racist, what they're really saying is deviant.
		They're saying, you're a deviant, you're a deviant.
		So when I call him a deviant, people go, no he's not!
		He's perfectly in line with wokeness.
		So to them, they're hearing me basic- Like, they don't hear the word racist the way we do.
		When I say to him, you're a racist, I'm saying, you literally said that you would judge someone based on the content- You would judge someone on the color of their skin.
		To me, you're being racist when you discriminate against someone on their race.
		To them, racist just means you are a deviant from our ideology.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		If you were a media darling, and Ari was in here with a MAGA hat, and he accused you of laughter, they would have said, Tim Poole, Asian podcaster, to make sure we all knew he's a victim.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me explain something.
		One of the jokes that we make on the show every so often is that blonde-haired, blue-eyed Luke Rutkowski is a person of color, and literal second-generation mixed-race Tim Poole is white.
		I'm like, I don't even know what is going on in their brains.
		But I think it's fair to say what they're really saying is deviant when they say racists are white supremacists.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		You brought up this point.
		Would you happen to have the old definition and the new definition by any chance?
		Because I think I saw something online.
		I don't know where to look.
unidentified		Of racism?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Of the term racism.
unidentified		um not that i mean not the exact definition but off the top of my head i believe it was something more along the lines of what we generally believe that it's just hate or prejudice because of somebody's race or skin color now i think at least one dictionary and just in many schools of thought like in academia you'll see the definition be changed to it's uh it's like it's prejudice and prejudice plus power so black people can't be racist because They could be prejudiced but they don't have power in today's white supremacist racist system so black people therefore can't be racist and white people can't be victims of racism because they have the power and the prejudice so they're just nothing nothing just comes at them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then Luke isn't white because Slavic people experienced oppression Asian people in America are white because they have high
		incomes on average so
		They've turned white into an ideology. It's a boogeyman Well, if you look at history history is filled with
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		oppression whether you're you're Chinese or Japanese or Korean or Polish?
		You look, you know people have been screwed over throughout historically
		But you know, do you see people leveraging that for their own kind of purposes or excuses? It's it's
		To me, it's like thinking low of somebody, and it's thinking low of yourself.
		And I think some of it is done deliberately.
		This is just my perspective.
		I might be wrong.
		Someone might be able to convince me that I'm wrong.
		But for me, I think something that really does oppress people is saying continually, You're oppressed.
		And when you keep putting that into someone's mind, they create an identity that is oppressed, that does believe that they have lack of opportunities, and that kind of mindset, that kind of idea, that kind of larger consciousness that you're putting out there to your regular life, that you're manifesting, that you're creating, is creating that of lack, of being the victim.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want to chase this deviant idea, too, because there was something else that came up yesterday in the show that exemplifies this.
		When I was trying to explain that this world is comprised of many people with different worldviews, R.A.' 's response was, I said, your worldview?
		He said, yeah, reality.
		And so here's what I think happens.
		He believes he's in the moral majority.
		He believes that his ideas are represented by most people or that he's on the side of good or whatever.
		But a lot of these people don't seem to realize that when you have, you know, 80 million people voting one way and 80 million people voting the other, certainly there are two distinct, you know, perceptions, or I should say overarching perceptions.
		So for me, when I started getting into this work and, I mean, just doing journalism in general, I remember, I went, during Occupy Wall Street, there was a pro-life rally at the federal building by Wall Street, by the stock exchange.
		And we went and we saw these people and we saw them waving their flags and I listened to what they said.
		And my attitude's always been like, if we're talking about helping the working class, that means recognizing that half the working class are conservative and half are, you know, left or whatever.
		And that means we really need to understand where people are in general, not just one side of things.
		But too many of these people think 99% of the country is them, and there's this weird, deviant group of people.
		So when they say you're a racist, they're saying you are not in line with the moral majority, which is us.
		Our ideology is correct.
		And then when I try and point something out, like, there are 80 million people who roll the other direction from you and don't agree with you, They just, they say that's not true.
		They don't believe it, they reject that, or they say, well those people are wrong and crazy or grifters or liars.
		And it's like, that's why you'll often hear people say that the right thinks the left is misguided, but the left thinks the right is evil.
		I think that's starting to change now with many on the right, many, and the funny thing too is the right is not just right-wing, it's also comprised of the center.
		Like, if you actually look at Pew's research on this, which is hilarious, the stressed sideline, they call it, apolitical individuals lean right.
		And it's because the left has gone off the rails.
		When you look at that Axios poll we looked at last week that shows young Democrats are overwhelmingly antagonistic based on politics and not conservatives, we can see whatever is happening, it's happening as an effect of modern left culture or whatever.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And I think it's working brilliantly to the benefit of the special interests that really kind of pull the strings, that really kind of set the news stories, that set the agenda, that set the narrative.
		Because let's call a spade a spade here.
		There's a lot of things you and Ari agreed on.
		There's so many things that the government does that you weren't happy about.
		I know.
		I know.
		But hold on.
		Let me just get to this point.
		There's so many things you guys had in common, especially with your visions and your ideas and your beliefs and things that you went through that was outside of the established narrative.
		But on this point, it brought you two guys towards a very tense, angry moment between each other.
		That's how powerful and divisive a lot of this stuff is, where even if you could see eye to eye on a lot of stuff, you still fight each other.
		That's crazy amount of power.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		and division. Uh-uh. I gotta stop you there, bro. When R.A.
		says to me, you think you've got it worse than black people in this country? And I go,
		and I said, no, I agree with you.
		I actually did work on this subject. And then he says it again, three times. I'm like, bro,
		I don't know how many times I need to tell you. I agree with you on that. But for him
		to just be like, no one is allowed to talk about racism because of the black struggle.
		I'm like this dude, you cannot reason with.
		I literally tell him, you are correct.
		I agree with you.
		Critical race theory should not be banned in schools.
		It's just the practice of it.
		He goes, okay, all right.
		How many times does he need to say something?
		He goes, y'all called Kyle Rittenhouse a hero.
		And I said, we never did that.
		And he went, okay, okay.
		I'm like, how many times do I need to reach out and say, I agree with you, I agree with you, I agree with you, but he didn't, he, he, it's like, it's, it's not, it's, it's, it's, that's why I'm saying it's about being a deviant.
		It's about not being in line with our orthodoxy.
		So that's what they're calling you.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		By and large, what I was saying, you said it more eloquently and a lot better than I did, because again, There was terms of agreement, but it still led to confrontation, which to me is mind-boggling of how they were able to control the narrative in a way where it still leads to no understanding in a fighting, and that to me deserves to be pointed out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But listen, I think we all understood him.
		I think we were all analytical as to things, like, we analyzed the things he had been saying.
		He talks about news in a way where he didn't understand things.
		He was talking about how we didn't know what critical race theory was, and I gave him just a very generalized, here's one of the authors, here's what they've stated, here's what they believe, because I read this stuff.
		And full disclosure, when we had Vosch on the first time, I was miserable in trying to break down what critical race theory was, and I think Vosch made a great point when he was like, you don't know what you're talking about.
		And I said, well, my view of it is the cultural, like, wokeness and stuff.
		But you know what?
		I absolutely owned up to that and said, it's a good point.
		I should not use a phrase that I have not read the literature on.
		So I pulled up the book from Kimberly Crenshaw and I started reading.
		Did not read the whole thing.
		I read the first few bits of it to understand the origins of it.
		I read quotes and comments from Derrick Bell.
		I read some D'Angelo and some Ibram X. Kendi.
		And I'm still not going to pretend to be an expert.
		But for someone to come in here, Say these things, and for me to be like, which of these authors do you agree with?
		And him to be like, I don't know, I have no idea, I don't know anything about it.
		I'm like, okay, here's a problem.
		If I'm gonna tell you that there's a lot of this stuff we agree on, but no matter how much we try to come to you, to your side, and say, we wanna rectify this, you still just say, you guys are racists, you guys are white supremacists, you are bootlickers.
		There is no, there is no coming together, there's no compromise, there's no resolving this bridge.
		I'll just stress this point again.
		When I'm literally like, you are right, and I agree with you.
		And the response from the other side is, I don't care, screw you, you're a lying piece of crap.
		I'm just like, alright, that's it.
		It's conflict.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		The divide is real, and it's very strong.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I'm trying to stay positive.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		But I was going to ask, is there anything that could bridge this divide?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Is there anything possible?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I think so.
		I met a lady yesterday, total stranger in her 70s, a nice lady.
		We agreed on books and music and we were there looking at some stuff and there was another gentleman there who I don't really know but she knew and she pulled me to the side and said he's an anti-vaxxer and I was like, oh wow.
		Everyone can do whatever they want.
		I'm okay.
		I didn't mind.
		And she kept trying to get politics out of me and she was trying to like find labels and how to like pigeonhole me next, right?
		And then 30 minutes later, she says, I wish every Republican would drop dead.
		Just like that.
		And she was totally fine.
		It was normal.
		Like she could say it to a stranger.
		And I'm like, well, that's a horrible thing to say.
		And I was like, I think, I think you are putting labels on too many people.
		And you're hearing certain words like that, you know, he didn't want the vaccines.
		Now he's all these things.
		Maybe he's racist in your mind, a MAGA support or whatever.
		And I'm like, if you just take the labels away and talk to people about the real problems, you will probably agree on lots of things like what Tim and RA were talking about.
		And then she was like, you know, I did have an hour long conversation with this man.
		He was very nice.
		But once you said the vaccine thing, all the alarms went off in her head that she would hear the buzzwords on CNN.
		And I think if you start to strip away labels, like that's why that when I see words like woke, I hate words like that.
		I'm so sick of words like that because it automatically makes anyone who agrees with woke stuff and who doesn't agree with it want to fight about it.
		Just strip away those stupid words, I think.
		I think we use too many bad words like cancel culture and woke.
unidentified		There's a compulsive need to label people, though.
		People try to do the same thing to me all the time.
		And even when they find out what I believe in, there's still no label to put on it.
		So then they get even more frustrated.
		But I need to know.
		I think it's getting worse, actually, the compulsive need to label people.
		But I need to know, like, how do we combat that?
		Like, how do we change the messaging to where to the point where people don't feel the need to be like, hey, like, what do you believe about that?
		And then immediately assume your political party or assume everything else.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		It's like gang members.
		It's like, are you a bloke?
		Are you a crip?
unidentified		Are we going to stab you for real?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Luke and I, we went to the Peace Wall in Northern Ireland, and I really recommend people go to Belfast and look at the Peace Wall.
		It will be a shock to your system.
		And I mentioned this a lot when I went there, when we were there, and there's like, on one side it's pro-Israel, on the other side it's pro-Palestine, and I was just, I was confused, and I asked this guy who was there, I was like, I don't understand, like, what does the Irish conflict have to do with Israel and Palestine?
		And the dude said, whatever idea one side adopts, the other side takes the opposite stance.
		It's just tribalism.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And it's neighbors living next to each other with huge walls dividing them.
		Literally neighbors rioting and fighting each other.
		to the point where they're killing each other.
		And they're neighbors, they live in the same kind of country, they kind of have the same identity, they have a different kind of religious point of view, but that divide is so strong and crazy where they literally burn effigies of other people's belief systems and representatives in celebration in defiance of the other side.
		So that was a surreal experience to see that larger kind of, some people call it a festival, That literally leads to marches and fights and riots in Northern Ireland, which was absolutely crazy to see and experience myself.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's just one small area relative to the rest of the world.
		And this kind of thing is gripping the entire U.S.
		Like you saying the lady said she wished Republicans would all just drop dead.
		Look, I think there's a lot of really great things to focus on in terms of freedom.
		Gun rights are being strengthened.
		But there's also, you know, I'm not trying to be a downer.
		I do think that freedom and individualism is actually gaining a lot of ground in a lot of different ways.
		But I also think the hyperpolarization is becoming more and more enraged.
		Like, like the way there's a story you, as you explained it, people are just getting angry.
		Like, I don't care.
		I just hate.
		And that's scary.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That's the victim.
		She's a victim of the corporate press.
		They fed her fear.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But it's more than that too.
		I mean, so one of the things that R.I.
		said at the beginning of the show is that he said something to the effect of everything is extremely, all these media outlets are extremely divisive and we're doing the exact same thing here on this show.
		And I said, you're right.
		I agree.
		We talk about that.
		When we see MSNBC say that, you know, Ron DeSantis is codifying white supremacy or whatever garbage, and then we criticize them, and NewsBusters says they're known for insane, vile commentary and all that stuff, yeah, we're sitting here with a bunch of people listening and they're gonna be like, I don't like MSNBC and what they do.
		And then we're gonna get people who are only gonna take small clips of this show and then do the counter of saying, look at what they're saying, they're vile, racist, or whatever, and all it does is create echo chambers where everyone hates each other more and more and more.
		I suppose the one difference is one side is objectively correct.
		And that side is whatever this side is.
		And it's not the right.
		It's not libertarian.
		It's just literally there are people who are right and people who are wrong.
		And if you look at the Jussie Smollett story, the Covington kids, Nick Sammon stuff.
		You look at Kyle Rittenhouse.
		You look at Russiagate.
		Did I say Russiagate?
		You look at Ukrainegate.
		Two impeachments.
		Wow!
		One side is objectively wrong all the time.
		What do I get criticism for?
		Bad predictions.
		Bad predictions are different from factual errors.
		If I see the stock market doing really, really well and then say, I think Donald Trump's going to nail this election and that COVID happens and he doesn't, that's just me not realizing a pandemic was going to happen.
		But when you say Donald Trump colluded with Russia and he literally did not, or you claim these kids were getting in the face of a Native American and they literally did not, you live in a twisted, malformed, decayed reality.
		And then if you become hateful and vile and angry or violent because of it, yeah, one side is dangerous.
		And when you have a horde of angry zombies, how do you deal with it?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		That's a good question.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I'm running to the woods.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I'm going deep in the woods.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		That's literally what I did.
		I left New York City, went to the middle of the woods of New Hampshire, joined the Free State Project.
		But but is there anything that could help and again, I made this argument.
		I don't think we should call them zombies Because there are people who could go back from that state from that state of watching the corporate media to waking up zombies You can't bring back to life when it comes to corporate media heads who who watch the the fear-based mind control people could come back from that and People could come to an understanding and say, hey, I could see that.
		So I don't think we should call them zombies because I think that kind of furthers the divide.
		But let's just call them zombies for now.
		Is there anything bringing them back to life?
		And is there anything that could heal the divide?
		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I think when I say zombie, I'm referring to the people who are totally zombified.
unidentified		I think there's some people that you just can't bring back no matter how you try to reason with them, no matter what type of facts you put in front of them, as was demonstrated.
		I mean, you can agree with something, everything that they're saying, basically, and they're still gonna call you a white supremacist, racist, based off of these new made-up definitions and terms.
		And they could be they could literally be a white person sitting here yelling at you that they could I've had white people call me I'm anti-black and that I'm racist and that I hate myself and I have internalized racism and misogyny and all those types of stuff and I can sit here and look at them and laugh at them and be like and just ask them to explain themselves and they can't it's just because like Tim said it's just I like the word deviant it's just because I'm deviant.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but there is a political transformation.
		There is a political change, and it happens in some people, even Tucker Carlson.
		But it goes both ways.
		Pro-establishment, of course.
		Pro-establishment, pro-war, CNN, MSNBC, toting the line, repeating the speeches.
		Now he criticizes the Republicans, criticizes the Democrats, criticizes the intelligence agencies, and does something that— Agrees with Glenn Greenwald?
		Yeah!
		Has Glenn Greenwald on his show, and Tulsi Gabbard on his show all the time, and rages against the kind of intelligence state.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a new political faction.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		So, like, some people would consider him a zombie that has turned a zombie lord to someone who has come back to life and is now helping people awaken from this zombiness.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's an article that Daily Dot wrote about what happened here.
		And it was just, like, it's crazy how they just don't watch the show.
		They don't care to get the facts straight.
		But one of the things they point out is that in the clip, I highlighted a documentary I did on Ferguson.
		And, you know, the black community was going through with going on tour and racism.
		And they said, but Tim Poole failed to mention that he made that before his politics did a 180.
		So let's assess that real quick.
		If I literally pull up a documentary I made seven years ago and say, I completely agree with this message for the documentary that I put together seven years ago, how have my politics changed if I'm literally like, this exemplifies my view on systemic racism?
		Quite literally, it's the same political opinion as when the documentary was made.
		And I'll tell you this, too.
		They wanted me to say a line in that documentary I did not say.
		The final line of the documentary was that the police of St.
		Louis were created by and the descendants of slave catcher patrols.
		And I was like, that's a little too much, guys.
		And it's not necessarily untrue in some contexts, but it's mostly not true.
		There are some police departments where they started as slave catching.
		And then most police departments, and I looked all this up, they were just ideas and institutions that were adopted from, I think, France and other European countries that we decided to implement here as we expanded Sheriff's Department and law enforcement.
		So I'm like, that goes too far.
		That's what they wanted in it.
		So, my politics haven't changed on this.
		But it's really interesting because what that means is, this group of people revolt, like, they moved around me.
		So here I am in this position on the left, and the establishment media moves to the left where I stay in the same position, and now they're like, look, he spun a 180!
		And I'm like, yo, it's you guys who wrapped all the way around the other direction.
		How is it that I'm gonna defend this, and you're gonna claim I disagree with it?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		They move so far left that you look far right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I haven't moved anywhere.
		I'm always just like, hey, it's wrong to be racist.
		I gotta say, this is why I'm really pessimistic.
		At the end of the member segment, I said, I think racism will never go away.
		And it was because of people like RA.
		It was because he is a white guy who claims white people are privileged, Who thinks he's justified as a white man to tell minorities what to do and laugh at them when people talk about their problems or experiences of racism, he laughs in their face.
		And I was like, why would that go away?
		So this is a guy who, in every respect, a hundred years ago probably would have been a white supremacist.
		A hundred years ago, this country was overwhelmingly white supremacist.
		And now, today, many people have adopted the more civil rights view and have become more accepting and more understanding.
		And he's still of the mindset, and it's not just him, I don't mean to single him out, it's the woke, that they, as the white savior, the privileged race, has the right to determine what minorities should be doing.
		And I'm like, what changed?
		What about white supremacy has changed?
		And these people are still doing it.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I think that's why it's important to be considerate of your virtues and not just change on every issue based on your gang affiliation or the level of political power you're going to gain for standing on this side or acceptance from larger society.
		I mean, I always, throughout my journalism career, always said, okay, what are my virtues?
		What do I represent?
		What ideas am I going to go out there to the general public?
		And to me, it was always anti-war.
		Freedom, privacy, the rights of individuals over the collective.
		And I always stood on those virtues, but I've been called a right-wing racist tea bagger by Chris Matthews of MSNBC.
		Bill O'Reilly said We Are Change is a jihad-loving leftist liberal organization.
		And I got slandered for it, but my position has never changed.
		When Obama was in power, I was called a conservative.
		When Bush was in power, I was called a liberal.
		And again, I don't believe in any of that gang affiliation.
		Your virtues should matter more.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Luke has one political position.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Freedom.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The government sucks.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yes, absolutely.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I'm with you.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I'm with you.
unidentified		I'm all for that.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Abolish taxes.
		All of them.
		Immediately.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I'm in New York where we have new mandates now for the mask.
		It's crazy.
		And it's just like, if you have kids and you love your kids, you hate your government if they try to get between you and your kids.
unidentified		Exactly.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		And they're trying to wear it.
		I mean, they had like five-year-olds running around outside this summer, 90-degree weather, with the masks on.
		I'm like, you guys are waterboarding these kids, basically.
unidentified		So what is the option for New Yorkers?
		Like, what do you- Leave.
		Leave?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I think most of them like it.
unidentified		You can't fight?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I think most of them in the city area like it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's pull up a story real quick to get some context here.
		We have this from TimCast.com.
		De Blasio says people will be forced to accept COVID vaccines if their, quote, paychecks depend on it.
		This dude was giving an interview and he basically said, I will destroy your life to get you to do what we want you to do.
		And I was just like, if you want to live in that city and you want to live under his boot and lick it, they like it.
		Feel free to do it!
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		If you want to call anything white supremacy, that's it right there.
		If you look at the Vax mandates, who it predominantly affects, the consequences of it, especially in New York City, especially with people of color.
		Holy frickin' cow!
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		His name is Wilhelm.
unidentified		I just call him Bozo the Clown.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Should we call him Kaiser?
unidentified		I am absolutely flabbergasted that he still has any political power.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		One of my favorite images of this year, videos really, is him alone in Times Square dancing with his wife.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		When everyone was not allowed to be in there.
		Everyone was told, get away, you're not allowed to come to Times Square.
		Only the special elites, only the people who give out the orders will be Celebrating and dancing in the middle of it as the order followers will kick everyone out.
		It was disgusting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look at this!
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And the New York Times made that one of the photos of the year that they were celebrating and toting as something great.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		They didn't show Bill de Blasio dancing there by himself with his wife with police officers protecting them.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Meanwhile, the governor's a mass murderer.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They kicked out everyone from Times Square and then they had their private dance.
unidentified		So you can have a little prom night.
		That's cute.
		I think I think I like your point that people with kids, people with families should leave.
		There's really nothing that they could do.
		I will not fault anybody for leaving if there's really nothing else they can do.
		But I did write a piece for Tim Cass.
		It was in August, I think it was called Here's How New Yorkers Can Fight Back Against Medical Mandates, where I interviewed somebody from the New York Young Republican Club.
		and they talked about basically how they're staging sit-ins and anti-mass protests and
		rallies and I think non-compliance is a truly American virtue.
		It's what basically birthed this country and birthed this nation and I would hate to just
		have everyone retreat when I think there is a silent majority.
		I think it's time for them to speak up.
		And I know everyone's so tired of everyone saying, oh, silent majority, silent majority.
		But I think it's a real thing.
		And I think people are scared.
		And if you can afford to not leave, and if you can afford to not comply, I think you should.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I totally agree.
		Were they in the city?
		Yep.
		Yeah.
		So the city is a whole different world from the rest of New York.
		I said this last time.
		New York City is a little pea at the bottom of the state that kind of dictates the policy for the rest of this giant state.
		And they vote sometimes overwhelmingly red while the city votes blue.
		I would hope for non-compliance if you can.
		That's the way to go for sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Non-violent civil disobedience.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's as simple as people just being like, no.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Just say no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then nothing.
unidentified		We will not comply.
unidentified		It's like a perfect American phrase and it's just like we forgot about it or we attributed it to like white supremacists or something.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ben Shapiro did not forget.
		Daily Wire guys did not forget.
		Yeah, that's like they're all their, you know, logo, icons, avatars or whatever, do not comply, we will not comply.
		It's crazy how... But they also retreated.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		You know, like they left a state that was pretty dystopian, like New York.
		But it's good to say not comply.
		But I also think I don't blame them at all.
		So cities, I don't blame them at all.
unidentified		It's kind of an FU, and it sends a message to the state.
		I think it's kind of good in some sense, because it does send a message.
		And I think that people are going to look at that and be like, hey, we need to make a change,
		or hey, something's up.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Some people argue that you're voting with your feet.
		By staying in New York City, you're paying their taxes, you're part of their workforce, you're
		incentivizing people to say, I will control every aspect of your life, and you will obey,
		and you will live underneath my boot.
		No, I won't.
		I'm going to go to Florida.
		I'm going to go to New Hampshire.
		I'm going to go to West Virginia.
		I'm going to go to Texas.
		I'm going to go where my rights are respected, where my money actually goes towards the greater good and doesn't Go towards discriminating against people doesn't go towards giving people less opportunities because they didn't do a procedure that the government bureaucrat wanted them to do and it's it's sickening what's happening in New York City and there are some people standing up.
		There was recently a large number of people arrested because they went to restaurants and they said hey.
		We're not gonna comply with the whims of government.
		We're not gonna ask the government permission and get their permission slip to eat here.
		And they were asked to leave, they said no, and they did sit-ins.
		Cops came in, they followed orders, and they arrested them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Isn't this weird?
		It's just so weird that the way politics is evolving in this country.
		I've always been on the side of businesses should grant access to public accommodation for members of the public.
		But now it's crazy to see many people on the right arguing that.
		You know what I mean?
		Like before, it's just... I don't know, man.
		I saw a really crazy image of a vaccine warehouse being burned down.
		And someone on the right being like, this is how you stick it to authoritarianism, whatever.
		And I'm like, bro, that's an Antifa tweet!
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, what is going on?
		I think that the difference there is their anger is rooted in something that's really happening.
		And sometimes Antifa are riding, they're riding over manipulated realities, you know, like inflated numbers of, you know, deaths, whatever.
		You know, like I had a friend who would tell me like thousands of black men die, you know, a year by cops.
		And I'm like, I don't know if that's a number.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like 23.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I would show her the number.
		She would say, well, the numbers are systemically racist.
		And I was like, and then I'm racist for showing her the systemically racist.
		Oh my, oh my goodness.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I had, I had a friend and, uh, they were posting stuff about the migrant crisis.
		That was wrong.
		So I took the refugee document from the UN website, sent her the link, and said, hey, just FYI, what's going on here is X, Y, and Z. So there's three Mediterranean routes.
		There's the Western, the Central, and the Eastern.
		I don't think it's called Central, but there was three routes.
		One goes through Spain, one goes from Libya through Italy, and then one goes through Greece through Lesvos.
		And I was just like, the people who are coming in through Greece are the refugees from Afghanistan and Iraq, and the people who are coming from the central and western routes are economic migrants from Nigeria and other countries.
		And then she just said, screw you, and blocked me.
		And I was like, I don't know what just happened!
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		She slapped your microphone.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I didn't insult her, I didn't call her name.
		I had one friend, this was crazy, someone I talked to all the time, we hung out a lot in New York, who told me that they now believed in conversion therapy because they, so this is crazy, right, check this out.
		If you talk to someone on the left, they will cheer when you hear someone say, you know, like Canada has banned conversion therapy.
		They'll go like, yay!
		And I'm talking to this friend, she's a woman, And she was saying that it was transphobic for people to not want to date people of the same sex if they were transgender.
		And so I was like, hold on, I'm trying to understand you.
		So I was like, you're a woman and you're attracted to men.
		And she was like, yes.
		And I said, so you're saying that you personally are attracted to people who are biologically female, who have female genitalia, but have transitioned.
		And she said, no.
		And I said, so do you think that's transphobic?
		And she said, well, I could learn to like it.
		And I said, isn't that conversion therapy?
		That sounds like grooming.
		Like trying to convert someone's sexuality.
		And then she got really mad and said, no, you're being transphobic.
		And I was like, I thought you were being transphobic.
		I was like, all I did was genuinely ask.
		She blocked me.
		Yeah.
		But to be fair, she deleted all of our social media and said, I can't take this anymore.
		And I think what really happened is, like when we talk with RA, these are people who are on Facebook.
		These are people who are on Twitter.
		And they get a worldview bubble, a bubble world from the group they follow.
		This is what people need to understand.
		Who you follow on Twitter, if you're active on Twitter, is shaping your reality, and it can be distorting it.
		So they say, like, like, so I follow a lot of conservative personalities, a lot of leftist and liberal personalities.
		I follow Hasan, I follow Vosh, I folly, uh, I folly, I follow a few other people.
		I don't wanna get anyone else dragged.
		They're, they're famous, so I'll leave it there.
		But a few other, like, lesser well-known leftist journalists, as well as all the mainstream publications, Vice, And that way I'm seeing what they're saying, I'm seeing what other people are saying, and I get a view of both groups.
		But a lot of these people, like this former friend of mine, was probably only on Facebook in a group of friends who were all regurgitating the same woke garbage.
		And then when I simply asked questions, I think what really happened was she realized the world she lived in on Facebook was not real, and she couldn't take the pressure of it anymore and deleted it.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I would even go further. It's not who you follow. It's who the big tech algorithms decide you see because now it doesn't
		even matter because they curate a lot of the timelines.
		Twitter is still one of the few places where you actually see the people you actually follow, but most social media,
		especially Facebook and Instagram, they have a carefully curated algorithm that they have even done psychological
		studies on that could create certain emotional outcomes.
		And I think there's a correlation between the mental and wellness of just people going down dramatically with the onset of social media.
		But it's not just our personal well-being that's being affected here.
		It's not just our mental health.
		It's also our political discourse which is being bastardized.
		And I think the echo chambers that are created That echo chambers that many people blindly follow because also, as you mentioned to him, you try to get different perspectives, but a lot of people don't.
		A lot of people don't want to see different perspectives.
		They want to see their perspective regurgitated to them from different kinds of points of view.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		They also might not have time.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Re-establishing the same idea.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Reinforcing that idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I gotta pull something out that's really funny.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But, you know, keep talking.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I think I think this is my crazy wacky theory is Facebook years ago.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Remember that debate over if it's a blue dress or a gold dress?
unidentified		Yeah.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That was us getting prepped for the fracturing of reality.
		Who believes what?
		And they're just back there.
		They're judging.
		Who does what?
		You should do a report on that.
unidentified		I can't do it with Facebook and Instagram now.
		I think I'm shadowbanned on Instagram.
		Even when people do see my post, half the time it has that warning over it like, fact checkers, I've deemed this false.
		And it'll be like the most mundane thing.
		It's a badge of honor.
		It's not even like crazy.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I saw something on Twitter earlier with someone talking smack on vaccine mandates and right below it was a promoted Pfizer tweet.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me pull up this story for you guys.
		Tim Pool confirmed leftist.
		This is from ground.news, blindspotter, and it says 53% of the news TimCast interacts with on Twitter leans left.
		Top three influencers are Vosh, Michael Malice, and Jack Posobiec.
		Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
		Now, to be fair, the reason why it says most of the news I interact with leans left is because it's the New York Times, it's CNN, it's Newsweek.
		These are mainstream news publications.
		They lean left.
		The media has a leftist bias, or a liberal bias.
		Michael Malice is slightly leaning left with a big, you know, right wing right there.
		Vosh is overwhelmingly left and Jack is overwhelmingly right.
		This right here is really fascinating.
		First of all, I'm obviously not a leftist, but I think it's fair to say that on policy issues and certain issues, I am center-left libertarian, a little difference in opinion from Luke in some ways.
		But when you look at Vaush, His worldview is comprised almost exclusively of leftist media.
		Michael Malice's worldview is mixed between liberal and conservative media, and Jack Posobiec is a little bit of liberal media, but mostly conservative media.
		This makes total sense based on the way they interact with media, the things they believe, the things they say.
		Why does Vosch think that, you know, the first time he came here, he said, Tim Poole, he told me to my face, you're far right.
		Because the only media he interacts with is left media, who make up, you know, garbled nonsense about me.
		Now he says conservative.
		Why?
		Because he actually came here and interacted with me.
		And now, like, he comes here, and we agreed on a bunch of stuff.
		In fact, when we had the Charlie, Kirk, and Vosch debate, I was actually—a lot of the stuff he said, I was like, I agree with you.
		You're correct.
		That point is true, and these things are true.
		And then a lot of people who followed him were like, oh, I didn't realize, you know, they're, like, based Tim and things like that.
		If these people just mixed up their news sources a little bit, got a healthier balance, Everyone might actually calm down.
		The problem is, New York Times, CNN, Newsweek, my top three sources, they lean left.
		So if Vosch is just watching MSNBC, CNN, Reading the Nation, and all that stuff, and it's overwhelmingly left media, then I don't know how you break someone out of that broken reality.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Can you put anyone's Twitter handle in there?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you want me to do you?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Luke, we are change.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Luke, we are change.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's gonna be like he's a crackpot conspiracy guy.
		44% left?
		44% left.
		Bro, it's because the New York Times.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Zero Hedge and Hive.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But it's because the New York Times is a left-wing publication.
		Ground News does a good job of this.
		Look at that.
		Thomas Massey, Glenn Greenwald, and Cernovich are your sources.
		Glenn Greenwald is very left when it comes to the media.
		And then you've got Cernovich, who's very balanced.
		Interestingly, look how small the centrist is in Cernovich.
		Nassie's got a little bit bigger one.
		Luke, you've got a 21% moderate.
		Let's go back to Monica's.
		What was the percentage of moderate for me?
		23%.
		Center.
		But most of it leans left.
		Why?
		The mainstream press is a liberal media machine, and this proves it.
		Let's jump over to Vaush.
		Look at this.
		He only interacts with 64% left-wing.
		The New York Times, The Daily Beast, and AJC.
		What percent?
		I can't even see the percent of right.
		Schuonhead, Ken Klippenstein, and Hasan the Sun.
		All overwhelmingly left personalities.
		So Vaush's worldview is inherently broken.
		Because he's not consuming media from other people.
		He's in an echo chamber where he hears what he wants to hear.
		And I mean no disrespect.
		I respect that he was actually being fair to a certain degree when he was talking about the RA thing.
		Like he said, if it was any other mixed race person complaining about racism, you would be on their side.
		But because it's Tim Poole, you don't like him.
		He is correct about that.
		You know what I think?
		Sm- Vaush, I think, is a smart guy.
		I think if he actually started adding in some non-left-wing news, even like some- well, he needs to mix in a little bit of conservative sources, he'd be like, well, how- well, hold on.
		How- wait, this right-wing source says X, but the New York Times says Y.
		Where's the break here?
		And I'll give you a really good example.
		The Washington Examiner reports that the January 6th committee admits to doctoring the message from Jim Jordan to Mark Meadows.
		That is a fact.
		What did the Independent report?
		Jim Jordan confirms he sent message to Mark Meadows.
		The objective truth is the message was from Jim Jordan, and it was altered.
		Now, if you only read the left source, you probably don't know it was altered.
		Really good example, when we had Hunter Avalon on the show, and he said Joe Biden didn't do anything wrong with the quid pro quo, and he didn't know anything about Viktor Shokin and Zlochevsky and anything that happened with Burisma, and I did.
		Because not only did I read the conservative outlets, the mainstream outlets, I literally read Ukrainian news sources on what was going on.
		So if you have people like Vosch who only consume echo chamber content, that's what you get.
		Schuonhet, look at this, even Schuonhet is 70, she's worse than Vosch.
		But she does have 13%, you know, conservative in there.
		And she just interacts for the most part with people who are on the left.
		This is really interesting.
		Let's take a look at a conservative personality.
		Jack Posobiec.
		He's overwhelmingly right-wing, and he consumes media from people who are also overwhelmingly in the right-wing sphere.
		I think it's fair to say you look at how people consume news, and you can predict their viewpoints and how they view the world.
		I think everybody, even Jack, should be reading a lot more of mainstream news sources.
		Well, I say Jack should read more mainstream news sources because he's clearly getting more right-wing sources and, you know, Voss should read more right-wing and independent sources because he's clearly getting nothing but mainstream sources.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		You should treat it like crossing the street.
		You don't only look right when you're crossing the street, especially in New York City with the crazy drivers that they have in there.
		You look left and you look right before crossing the street and I think, you know, that's a perspective that's gone for a lot of people.
		A lot of people Don't want to face a different reality than the one that they're codified in, that the one that they feel safe in.
		And a lot of people do feel safe by having their kind of political voices reinforced, their beliefs reinforced.
		And I'm a big fan of just waking them up, shocking them as much as you can, and having them wake up to the true reality of the world.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is why I think Ben... Right here we have Ben Shapiro.
		This is why I think Ben Shapiro is so smart.
		Very smart.
		And why he's like his opinions are crafted by facts and he doesn't get everything right. I don't agree
		with all of his opinions, but you can see here from his ground is blind spotter. 38% of his news
		is left wing. 18% is moderate and 44% is right wing. It makes sense. Ben's a conservative guy.
		He follows people who are, are, you know, consume middle of the road across the board.
		Look at this. Steve Miller, Red Stees, a healthy news diet in the middle. These are the people that
		I think, you know, you are doing a good job when Ben has a debate with someone like Malcolm Nance
		and he nails all of his facts and his opinions are crafted by those facts. Well read you well read
		right from, from good sourcing and mixing it up and trying to understand both sides.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I grew up with like 10 channels and my dad's like a centrist, leans right, but he would always tell us like, you gotta watch everything.
		And I would always notice when he got into like friendly debates at Thanksgiving or something, he would know the other person's argument if they happened to be on the other side better than they knew his argument.
		So he's arguing their point and his point and they're hearing things from him that are completely like from another world to them.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		It's even being able to be willing to have those conversations.
		A lot of people are afraid of having those conversations.
		They're prevented at having those conversations.
		So even though yesterday was kind of a crap show, the conversation at least happened.
		People were kind of forced to have it.
		And I think there's a layer of it too that we could still salvage from the craziness, some kind of understanding from where other people are coming from.
		And I think one of the biggest signs of intelligence is being able to have an open mind.
		If you're able to hear ideas that are critical of yours without having an emotional reaction and you could logically, critically think about them and assess the facts of the case.
		Very few people do that.
		They just want to be emotionally click baited into something that makes them feel nice and reinforces their side.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me tell you why Brian Stelter will never, never be on par with Ben Shapiro.
		And this is a good example.
		90% of what he interacts with as a media correspondent for CNN is left-wing media.
		Oliver Darcy, who is a media correspondent for CNN, 85% left-wing content.
		These are the guys who are supposed to be covering the right.
		They don't even read it.
		Reliable sources.
		The media show on CNN is 99% left-wing media.
		They do not interact with anyone but themselves.
		These guys are sitting at the bottom of a well, talking to each other about... Actually, you know what?
		They're the people sitting in the cave, the allegory of the cave, looking at the shadows, thinking they know the world, and they're not interacting with it at all.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		So this is something that I mentioned to Olivia when I was driving her over because I was like, I don't want to argue with someone who doesn't understand what we're talking about.
		I want someone who's well-read, well-informed, someone who can change my perspective because they know facts that I don't, like talking about redlining and blockbusting.
		That's stuff I want to know about because that changes my view on stuff like systemic racism.
		But it's very hard to find someone on the left.
		Maybe it's just because it's easier to only read Left-wing sources, like what Brian Stelter apparently is doing.
		I cannot believe that these are the people that they choose to cover the media.
		I forget who it was who was advertising for a right-wing media reporter.
		I was like, well, as far as I know, as far as these people are telling me, the right-wing doesn't even exist.
		There is none.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think there's also a debate to be had with a lot of people on the left wanting to give handouts, wanting to help others so they don't have to work towards something.
		Because when you have an idea that contradicts your viewpoint, you have to work to combat it.
		And I think there's an aspect of people having the ability to be able to work.
		And I think maybe that's why a lot of right-wingers are for work.
		For having this kind of Protestant work ethic compared to people who want to be the mother in our kind of larger society and give people help and be their supportive role.
		And I think a healthy society has a mother figure and a father figure that has Both kind of influence on people's lives so they get a fair perspective on it because if you go too far in either direction you're going to be in an unhealthy direction.
		You're going to be unbalanced and you're not going to be a person that's going to kind of fare well with the kind of rules and circumstances of our society.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I want to pull up, this is called Mediaopoly from Ground News.
		You can see 32% of the news Tim Pool interacts with on Twitter is media conglomerate owned.
		Tim Pool is a slightly concentrated news diet.
		So you can see 11% of the news I consume is independent, or I think it's interacts with.
		Mostly mainstream media, then private equity, then wealthy private owners, telecom companies, and other.
		I want to do this.
		I'm going to pull up.
		Look at all this.
		Let me go back.
		I'm going to pull up Luke We Are Change.
		And I'm willing to bet Luke has a... Here's my bet.
		Luke's going to have a big independent media bubble.
		What do you think, Luke?
unidentified		Probably.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You think so?
		Yeah.
		Not so much.
		Actually smaller than mine by 1%.
		You have wealthy private owners followed by media conglomerates and private equity.
		But here's why I pulled this up.
		What do you think is going to happen when I pull up Brian Stelter?
		Let's find out.
		Brian Stelter, media reporter for CNN.
		He's overwhelmingly telecom companies.
		Now that's probably because CNN.
		Because he's within the CNN bubble.
		Reliable sources, 96% telecom.
		Oliver Darcy, Telecom.
		These people live not only in a bubble of leftism, but they only really interact probably with the news coming out of their own network, which is full of garbage, and as we can see, heavily biased.
		So they're effectively, the way I described it with Jack Dorsey, Is that his worldview was shaped by gargling the sewage of his own platform.
		He created a platform.
		It had a negative effect on society, producing extreme activism.
		He then consumed it all and came to believe the garbage coming out of his own machine.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Stop it, man.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		You're giving me visuals here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think Jack Dorsey has been unleashed.
		I think he was constrained a bit by Twitter being the CEO.
		Now that he's out, the one thing he tweeted was transitory in quotes.
		He tweeted that Rothbard recently.
		I'm willing to bet now that he's not there, he's gonna give it some time.
		He might come out and actually start blowing people's minds.
		No joke.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That'd be nice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Would be great.
		I hit him up, actually.
		He... You'd be great to interview.
		I asked him if he wanted to come on the show and talk about his views on blockchain, you know, and the future of social media.
		And he said, at some point.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That'd be great.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's huge.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		More than I can say for a lot of other people.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		He's huge into decentralized currencies.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And him, you know, tweeting out Rothbard, it just is just a perfect example of people realizing the true power of decentralization and understanding that if you try to control everything in life and centralize power, you're creating real life harm that translates to, of course, the natural stopping of human progression.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But Luke, we gotta get real.
		We gotta get serious.
		There is serious harm that may be coming for all of us.
		And it's this story right here.
		Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for revenge in Indian town.
		What if they come for us?
		I'm just kidding.
		Was there a movie about this?
		It's Friday night, and we're gonna leave on a... This is not actually a good note.
unidentified		This is Volume 2 of our book.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I read the story and I felt depressed.
		Like, seriously, it's sad.
		What's happening?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Is there video?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's video of it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Group of monkeys.
unidentified		I need to know what happened.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, there's a video of them rescuing a puppy from the monkey, so look at this.
		A group of monkeys in a small town in India took revenge on the local dog population by throwing them off the top of buildings and trees.
		It's reported the monkeys have killed about 250 pups in the process and are targeting villagers.
		The monkeys, located in Malagaon, India, started the rampage after some of the dogs allegedly killed an infant monkey.
		News18 reported that when the monkey sees a dog approach, they catch them and throw them from a significant height to the ground.
		In the neighboring village of Lavool, the monkeys have eradicated all of the dogs.
		After all the dogs were killed in the village, residents contacted Forest Department officials to catch the monkeys.
		But when officials attempted to catch the monkeys, they were unable to capture a single monkey.
		Villagers believe the monkeys are taking revenge on the dogs.
		Now villagers in Lavool are being chased by the monkeys.
		Some have even been attacked!
		Quote, we've seen that when an individual is attacked in some way, the likelihood of them attacking someone related to their aggressor is higher.
		Typically there's a preference for attacking a third party associated with the original aggressor as opposed to the actual aggressor.
		For the most part, these acts of revenge take place shortly after the attack.
		Alright, we got real serious throughout the previous segment of the show.
		This one's actually kind of a messed up story, but at least we can wind down on a Friday night and get our minds out of that dark place and talk about monkeys!
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		The dogs are reading too much Brian Stelter.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The monkeys are.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, maybe the monkeys were.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I was gonna make a communist reference, but I shouldn't.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I'm gonna stop myself there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The monkeys have been on Facebook reading about how dogs are evil and they just wanted all the dogs to drop dead and they went out there and started throwing dogs off roofs.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I spent some time in India.
		The monkeys there call the shots.
		I mean, seriously, if you're around the Taj Mahal area, in Mumbai, in New Delhi.
		That's also in Thailand.
		There's literally people making money off people going on beaches.
		Monkeys rob them and then you pay the locals a few dollars and they'll get your stuff back.
		But in India, especially outside of the Taj Mahal, there's monkeys running around all over the place and if they want something from you, they're gonna get it.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		We need Cassandra's view on this story.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was thinking that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She's become a bit of a monkey expert.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you guys see that crazy video where during the lockdown the baboons had no food so they were roving gangs of baboons attacking each other for food?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was like they went Bloods and Crips, you know?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		We're in a dystopia.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're there.
unidentified		This is like Rise of the Planet of the Apes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think I'd like to title our reality the Omega Variant.
		You know, like, because that's the last variant, you know?
		Yeah.
		That's where we're headed, and it sounds cool.
		The Omega Variant.
		And because, you know, we're in a sci-fi dystopia with all of this stuff going on,
		and I would just like to call it that.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the only place that's safe is the metaverse.
unidentified		I was about to say, we're gonna have the metaverse.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's part of the Omega Variant.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, true.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's also monkey castles in India where monkeys get worshipped and there's monkey tribes fighting other monkey tribes for the top position of their group to be inside of this monkey castle where they get worshipped by the locals and fed by the locals.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		So there's also stories of monkeys attacking people because of a lack of tourists in other South Asian countries and just hordes of monkeys just pretty much running entire cities in South Asia.
unidentified		New think piece from Newsweek.
		Can monkeys be racist?
		That's my now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, it depends.
		What's the race of the dogs?
		Are the dogs chocolate labs or yellow labs?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		They're white adjacent.
unidentified		Are they?
		Yeah.
		They're white passing.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		White passing dogs.
		Well, this dog is actually white on its front and brown on its back.
		So I don't know.
		It's white passing.
		White passing.
		There's any amount of white in there.
		No good.
unidentified		No good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The monkeys are going to come for us.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It's a new Michael Bay movie.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There was a show I was watching.
		It was called, like, After Humans or something.
		I forgot what it was called.
		And they said that if humans disappeared right now, if every single person on the planet was just gone, house cats would take over.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Of course!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because they reproduce like crazy, and they're the only species besides humans that kill for fun.
		Yeah, they hunt for fun.
		They kill for fun.
		And so they just needlessly destroy and expand and kill and man.
		Cats, dude.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Not a fan of cats.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		They're torturers.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		They literally torture animals for fun.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		My cat brings me a decapitated mouse.
		Yeah, quite often.
		It's treasure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We had Bocas, our cat.
		We went outside and he was holding a bird, a little blue bird, and then his wing was busted.
		So he would let it go and it would struggle and jump off and then he would pounce at it and whack it and whack it and whack it.
		We had to put the bird down.
		It was this little tiny bird because it had been eviscerated.
		And so we were like, what do we do?
		We just gotta, you know...
		And then there was another time where I saw him sitting in the grass looking around and I went out there and there was a little mouse on its back just like wheezing and then it rolled over and started to crawl away and then he just got ready and then he let it go a little bit then he jumped up and started bashing it over and over again so I took a little stick and I put it under the hand of the mouse and the mouse grabbed onto it and I lifted it up and he was just hanging there dangling and and Bocas started going Like yelling at me, and then I put the mouse in a bush.
		I think he survived.
		Because Bocas was just beating him, but he didn't gut him or anything like that.
		Cats are brutal.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Mouse rescuer.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You want to know what was the most brutal thing I saw?
		Okay, it's one thing when Bocas is like stalking the mouse and swatting it.
		A mouse was walking past the chicken coop, and a chicken ran over and grabbed it, bashed the mouse with its beak against the ground, and then just swallowed it whole.
		And I was like, oh my!
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That's like some ancient DNA.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Pterodactyl stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Little dinosaurs, man!
		Dude, it just swallows you like... No, I didn't see that happen.
		I was told by some of the people here that they saw it grab the mouse and just bash it and then... And I was like, whoa!
		Yeah, dude, they eat chickens.
		Do you know that chickens will eat each other?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Of course they will.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So we had one of our chickens... Yeah, Dorothy, one of our chickens, was getting injured.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I gotta be honest, Dorothy's kind of a bitch.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		She's not here to defend herself.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She was attacking, she was bullying the other chickens.
		And so the other chickens teamed up and Roberto, the rooster, started, he would jump on her and he wasn't, he wasn't, he wasn't doing the business.
		Cause you know, like he would just jump on her and start pecking her head like crazy.
		And then she would scream and run away and her back was all messed up.
		And so I looked it up.
		We had people comment on the show.
		They said if she starts bleeding, the other chickens will peck her to death and then eat the body.
		So we separated them for about two or three weeks.
		Dorothy fully healed.
		We reintroduced her.
		They're all getting along just fine now.
		It's fantastic.
		We're getting the cameras out of our chickens.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		So there's hope you're saying for people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so a couple weeks is the equivalent to a chicken of maybe like a year.
		None of these chickens are... Dorothy's a year and a half old.
		The other adult chickens were born in January, so they're almost a year.
		So they were separated for about three weeks, right?
		So that's like, you know, maybe like a year or two years of their lives and reintroduce them and they'll be like, Shane, I haven't seen you in so long.
		I can't remember why we were mad at each other.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I want to eat you.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		But I'm okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Are you injured?
		Hey guys, he is injured.
		That's food.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		We should eat him.
		As humans right now, we are so lucky and so protected from the realities of nature.
		Because, again, if ish starts to get real, if there's going to be a lack of resources, a lack of food, it's going to be a very natural process of what's going to be taking place.
		And a lot of us are not used to nature.
		A lot of us are not used to the wild.
		A lot of us don't even understand how the wild works.
		And I think, you know, with all the crazy stuff happening, I think people are going to get a very rude awakening soon.
		I think I'd be okay.
unidentified		I was raised by like a crazy prepper, like a doomsday prepper.
		So yeah, we had like, we literally had like a go trailer, like in the garage that we could like hook up and just go.
		We never had to use it, but I was just raised that way.
		I think I would survive.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		An apocalypse vehicle?
unidentified		Yes, we did.
unidentified		Yeah.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Are there some like other prepper tips that you would share with people that you learned?
unidentified		I learned a lot of weird stuff as a child like I mean I was in middle school like chopping down bamboo that just kind of randomly grew.
		I live on the edge of like Seneca Creek which is off of the Potomac and it's my house kind of backs up to the woods and there's like a kind of random shoot of bamboo that shot up I think for privacy for my neighbor but there's a bunch of dead bamboo down there in middle school I would take it and wrap a fishing line around it and catch salamanders and catch catfish in Seneca Creek and I was like that was like my little like teenage girl thing I had no friends I was like oh my god why does everyone think I'm weird?
		But just little stuff like that that was normal to me growing up.
		I learned how to treat and clean cambion from pine trees to eat and make tea with.
		I learned how to make flour from acorns, a lot of weird stuff like that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You ever make dandelion tea?
		Yeah, Ian talks about that a lot.
		He was like, yo, we gotta make dandelion tea.
unidentified		I've had dandelion tea, I really like it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is it good?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I love it.
unidentified		Pine tea made from cambium is also pretty good.
		I've made acorn tea as well.
		It's kind of more of a nutty coffee flavor if you do it with acorns, but yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We got probably 300 pounds of black walnut outside.
		You ever do anything with it?
		It's apparently like an anti-parasitic or something, but you're not supposed to eat a lot of it.
unidentified		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We have pawpaw like crazy in October though.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I remember the day I met you, you made mulberry jam.
		Yeah, mulberry jam.
		You gave me a cookie with some mulberry jam.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was amazing.
		The best thing we made, so we have wild wine berries everywhere in West Virginia.
		I saw a guy driving down the highway, pull over his car, jump out and start grabbing berries from the side of the road.
		I'm not kidding.
		They're delicious.
		They're like a Chinese raspberry.
		We took those and we took lemon juice.
		Now you use a little bit of lemon juice to make a jam, but I did a lot of lemon juice to make a lemon wineberry jam.
		It was amazing and then we made we put it on cheesecake.
		Mmm, so good.
		I got news though I got good news.
		We were trying to get this building built.
		We got a building getting built nice We're gonna have freedom a stand Tim cast HQ an official big steel construct building 7,500 square feet With a new studio being built out specifically inside of it.
		We got this confirmed today I didn't think we're gonna be able to pull it off because of the shortages and the price increases But we finally found a company that said we can get this done and It's smaller than we originally wanted, but it's going to be mostly big empty open space for now, and then there's going to be a small area that's about 20 feet by 75 feet that will comprise the studio.
		It's going to be a second floor construct, and then we're going to have a legit headquarters in West Virginia for everything.
		We're still going to have this space for production and editorial and everything, but we're growing like crazy.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It's incredible.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we're growing like mad crazy.
		It's good news.
		And it's thanks to everybody who's a member, who's a member at TimCast.com, supporting all of the work we do.
		And it's a hefty ticket.
		Like, it's expensive to do.
		But, it's like I've been saying.
		We want to do a lot.
		We need space.
		We want to do the Truth in Media Foundation.
		We want to fact check the fake media.
		We need office space for this.
		We want to do the technology stuff.
		We need office space for this.
		So we're going to start building out the space we need.
		It's actually cheaper to build on this land than it would be to go buy a building and deal with it.
		Plus it's going to be built, made to order, so it's specifically for us and everything we need.
		Man, it's crazy that we're getting this stuff done.
		So hopefully...
		You know, I'll put it this way.
		The fact that this is all happening is the best evidence that we are winning.
		That success is not only possible, but it's happened before, it's happening now, and it's going to continue happening.
		So that's good news.
		It's a very optimistic thing, I think.
		And I also want to add, because someone superchatted this, that I am in fact a Pokémon.
		He is, yes.
		It's a Pokémon called Tympole.
		Literally it's called Timple, and it's Pokemon wearing headphones.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		It kind of looks like you.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		It does, doesn't it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it's got the same colors.
unidentified		Same eyebrows.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that weird?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that really weird?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Who came first?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I love him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Timple was made well before I was using... It's really crazy.
		The colors we use for Timcast...
		The, the name Tim Pohl.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Simulation.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And yeah, simulation for sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I, so like, we use the teal and the black as the colors on the website.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		He swims.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that weird?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's weird.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Tim Pohl.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Maybe the true version of you in the alternate reality, a part of this larger kind of consciousness that we're a part of, we're just kind of trolling.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Someone's trolling.
		I don't know, but somebody super chatted, they were like, why didn't you tell us that you were a Pokemon?
		And I was like, other people have sent us this before.
		Timpole.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's weird.
		So weird.
		It's like a tadpole, I guess.
		So cute!
		You're even the right water sign.
		How funny.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I'm a Pisces.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		That's what I'm saying.
		You're a water sign.
		That's funny.
unidentified		Love it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So do we live in a simulation?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Pick up your copy of the Inverted World book and read it.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Perfect.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Look at that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		invertedworldbook.com.
		One thing we can do though is we can jump over to the...
		Super Chats!
		If you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and Ian couldn't be with us tonight, so I need you to smash that like button for him.
		Ian, wherever you may be, we're smashing that like button for you.
		No, he went home to see his family, it's not a big deal.
		He'll be back.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		We should have said there was a fight and like...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It got bad, it got crazy.
unidentified		Ian laughed, we don't know where he went.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But he said, we got a mysterious message that said, I'll only come back if you get 10,000 likes.
		And we were like, how do we do this?
		No, there was a letter and it was like, get 10,000 likes or you'll never see Ian again.
		Alright, let's see what we got here.
		All right, let's see. Drive-by commenter says, Hey Tim, a quick response you can say on CRT is,
		I agree with teaching all history, but I reject the deliberate polarization and weaponization of
		the youth in their formative years. Yeah, it's hard for people who don't know what's going on
		to understand.
		That's why, like, you know, we're talking with R.A., I said, I don't think critical race theory should be banned.
		He goes, but you were cheering for it.
		And I was like, we're cheering for the banning of the praxis.
		Like, it's, I imagine this should be simple for most people.
		Would you want a teacher to tell a child to, you know, oh, you failed your test, so I want you to, you know, sit down and do seven Hail Marys and three Our Fathers.
		You'd be like, I don't think that should be in a public school because it's a religious practice.
		I feel the exact same way about that.
		If there was a bill being passed that said, or if I found out all these teachers across the country were, bring out books that said, sit down and close your eyes and reflect on how you've, you know, sinned and how you need to confess to the Lord and do all these religious things, I'd be like, nah, I'm not okay with that, right?
		That's a public school and there's issues with that.
		Same thing.
		They can't have whatever they want, you know?
		Rekra Morrison says, so when's the sequel song, Will of the Elites?
		I have a new song I'm extremely excited for.
		I don't, you know what?
		I think I can tell the story of the song right now.
		Cause right?
		Normally, like when we did Will of the People, I waited for it to come out so people can get the full song because the song is a story.
		But the song I'm working on now, I'll give you the really quick version.
		So it'll, it'll spoil it for a lot of, no, I'm not going to do it.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Don't do it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to spoil it.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Don't spoil it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's really good though.
		But I'll tell you the gist of it.
		It's not a dark and evil song like, you know, it's just a song about perseverance.
		It's about a kid who wants to defy the establishment that's trying to mold him to be what they want him to be, but he really wants to just be like, you know, he wants to be a scientist, he wants to explore, he wants to find his own path in life.
		So that's basically it.
		But it's a really good story that I wrote, and I've got the video planned out for it.
		The song is already mostly formulated.
		So, and then we're also actually done, we're getting really close to being done with one song which is fairly dark called Bright Eyes, which you may have seen in the vlog.
		You can check that out.
		We got Pete Parato laying drum tracks for us.
		I could not be more excited about that as a huge fan of The Offspring growing up and then having Pete, you know, help us with the drums is just absolutely incredible.
		Pete, you rock.
		Thank you so much.
		All right, let's read what we got here.
		The Physicality Channel says, I'm not that guy.
		Which guy?
		Which guy is he referring to?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Daniel Caven says, Tim I am 25% Japanese and it was always my leftist friends that would say it doesn't count.
		I am the same age as you and when I fly I get polled also.
		It's the weirdest thing that like, I don't know man, that you have people who say there's no possible way you could experience racism and then they claim they're not the racists.
		It's just weird.
		Anyway.
		Alan DeJayne says, if one wants to ask others to relate to their struggles, they must give credence to other struggles.
		Understanding works best as a two-way lane.
		And, uh, shout out to Vosh again, because he made a really great point.
		He said, when someone tells you their experience, you do not call them a liar or deny it.
		Because they are the experts on them.
		You always say, okay, and, or okay, but, and you carry on accepting, you know, unless you can means test and prove they're making a story up.
		If someone says this is what they went through, then you accept it.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		What happened to speaking your truth?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Well, it's because that's why I say a lot of these people are just overtly racist.
		But I will say too, in that capacity, I do think Vaush is an overt authoritarian masquerading as a libertarian.
		And that is not meant to be a point of derision or disrespect.
		It's just an opinion-based statement of how I view him.
		And it was because he made a troll video where he was saying it was bait that he said Assange should rot in a CIA black site as long as it offends Glenn Greenwald or whatever.
		And I just...
		I understand he may be joking or screwing around or whatever, but I'm just like, I don't actually trust that he's joking in that capacity.
		I don't think he's being as literal as he wants Julian Assange to die in a CIA black site, but I genuinely do not believe he supports Julian Assange.
		And I gotta be honest, overwhelmingly, if you oppose what Assange did, it is typically because you're an authoritarian, and what Assange did was journalism.
		That's just it.
		So I don't trust him.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Authoritarians hate transparency.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		Because it disrupts the authority.
		Nathaniel Curry says, I'm not that guy.
		Smash the like button, y'all.
		That's right.
		That's right.
		If you are not that guy, smash that like button.
		I want to say something too.
		book you know the thing and be strong walruses.
		Nathaniel Curry says I'm not that guy.
		Smash the like button y'all.
		That's right.
		That's right.
		If you are not that guy smash that like button.
		I want to say something too.
unidentified		Look.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Afterwards, you know, there are people who are like Tim why would you apologize to that
		And I'm like, because I don't want to fight people.
		Because I'm trying not to have conflict.
		And because I recognize we disagree.
		And we both got mad.
		And I said this earlier.
		I take full responsibility for everything that happened last night.
		Why?
		I believe that I should not invite people into my house who are going to disagree with me and then have me get mad at them and yell at them for it.
		I can get mad at them.
		I can disagree with them.
		I can get mad.
		But if I ask someone to come here because I'm going to talk politics with them and they don't like my politics, I should not be raising my voice about that.
		You know, I do think there's some criticism to go to R.A.
		for calling me a bitch and laughing at me and raising his voice to me, and then he got mad when I did the same, but I think I have an obligation as the host who's asked them to do me the favor of traveling, coming on my show for free, helping me do a show, and then me getting mad at them?
		Ah, I shouldn't have done that.
		I shouldn't have done that.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		So it's one of my personal pet peeves when other people try to tell you what you think.
		This is something that happens a lot on the internet.
		It happens to me in real life.
		I once mentioned that I had a hard time dealing with people from a certain state.
		Someone contradicted me!
		And I was like, I'm telling you what's happened to me!
		What's going on?
		Why are you telling me that I'm wrong with what I'm telling you about what happened to me?
		This is just what I've experienced.
		One of the things that you can't say is true or false is what has happened to someone else or what their opinion is.
		That is not something that is falsifiable in any manner.
		You can't just contradict someone.
		And people don't even know what they think themselves.
		They're very bad at communicating what they themselves are feeling.
		So to tell someone you know what they're thinking or feeling, get out of here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I want to make something clear too.
		It's the weirdest thing.
		There's two important points.
		I did say this earlier, but I'll say it again.
		That, uh, there's people on the left and the right saying, the left is saying, Tim was a coward, and look how fast he backed down when R.A., you know, stood up and put him in his place.
		And there's people on the right saying, damn, Tim didn't even flinch.
		He kept his cool.
		And my response is, neither of those apply to the circumstances.
		Because I don't think anyone here thought R.A.
		was actually going to attack anybody.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He just got mad and he smacked the mic.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So there's nothing for me to be scared of.
		I didn't think, like, I feel like it's a weird insult to R.A.
		to imply that he was gonna lose his cool and attack us.
		I do not believe that for a second.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I wasn't being brave.
		I wasn't being scared.
		I literally was just like, the dude stood up and hit the mic.
		Didn't come after anybody.
		And I do want to stress this point too, that's really weird.
		There's people on the left saying that I didn't understand what he was saying when he said, I'm not that guy.
		And I'm like, why do you think I apologized to him?
		I told him you are that guy.
		I know exactly what that meant.
		It was an insult.
		I was directly insulting him saying that he was going to sit back and take it.
		And I called him a mother effer and I said bad words.
		And I was like, bro, I should not have snapped like that.
		So I fully recognize I was being disrespectful to a guy I invited to come on my show to do me a favor.
		And that was wrong of me.
		That's just right there.
		So some people are like, Tim, don't back down.
		No, dude.
		I have to say this very plainly.
		If the goal of this show is to ask people to come on for free, and then we run a business, we make money, and we hire people, and we expand, you know, these people are all doing me a favor.
		So I can accept that if I invite someone here, they might not like me or agree with me.
		I should not raise my voice at them.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		And he ended with a hug.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ended with a hug.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		And he wrote a nice thing on Twitter.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		And he said, like, they're going to take that clip.
		And then that's why the first thing I wake up and I see was trending.
		I'm like, yeah, here we go.
		I was like, no one's posting that we hugged, man.
		We hugged for like a good 20 seconds.
		And we were both like, I'm sorry.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That should be the shirt.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And people too.
		There was a lot of disrespect for him, bro.
		As a skateboarder, he's got that song, King of the Underground and Tony Hawk's Underground.
		We know R.A.
		the Rugged Man, dude.
		That song is awesome.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
unidentified		I just wish I was there.
unidentified		I want to sit face-to-face with a white man telling me about the black experience and calling me a racist and calling me a white supremacist.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Let's make that happen.
unidentified		I love when I get in these situations and it doesn't happen often because usually they'll understand before they talk to me.
		Yeah, she's probably not the best person to, you know, white splain about the black experience, too.
		But occasionally it will happen, usually on Twitter when you're not face to face with somebody.
		But I would just love to sit down with somebody who is so deluded like that.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I think we need another Thrilla in Manila, too, with other people who are going to come on.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I think I think there deserves to be a redemption moment and a moment where we could converse about this and give it another try, where we could try to understand each other with other people involved.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That would be the best outcome.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, for sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ian Shop says, Hey Tim and crew, ended up checking out Vosh's take on the
		viral clip and given he didn't see the two prior hours, he had a good
		take overall.
		But his comment section was gross.
		A non-trivial portion just criticized your personal appearance.
		Well, that's because they're jealous.
		Over the past several months, I've been doing keto and I've lost a good amount of weight.
		That's right.
		And I've been skating.
		You know what?
		It's really incredible.
		You get your diet right.
		It's not even about losing weight.
		It was about me realizing that we talk bad about sugar all day, every day, and I was eating trash.
		I was like, during the day, I'd be like, oh, you know, I'll get something good, like some rice and beef or something.
		And then at night I'd be like, what's one pack of gummy bears?
		What's one stroopwafel?
		It's no big deal.
unidentified		It's just one soda.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And now I'm just like, I'm not touching any of that stuff.
		The worst thing I had today was a hot dog.
		I actually ate the bun.
		That's right.
		But it was like, you know, I have substantially reduced just bad stuff in my diet.
		I still eat some bad stuff.
		We had pizzas.
		I just took the cheese and I ate the cheese.
unidentified		That's a good way to do it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because I'm like, I can't walk.
		But we have keto pizzas.
		We have Quest keto pizzas.
		I put Giardiniera on it.
unidentified		Man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is keto cookies, too It was actually we are we are not sponsored by question All right, let's see KM says Michael Graves instead of Danzig whack Uh, Michael Graves couldn't make it, unfortunately.
unidentified		He'll be here.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Eventually.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Eventually.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		He had to reschedule.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we were really excited, but, you know, these last-minute things, that's why we're like, we never announce guests.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I said it, I was like, we don't normally do this, but Michael Graves is coming, and then he's like, I can't make it, dude, and I'm like, ugh.
		Your mom says, when are the Friday night music jams coming back?
		Wait until we get the new space set up at Firdamistan.
		It's gonna be awesome.
		Oh yeah.
		Friday night.
		What I wanted to do was actually have semi-members only Friday nights.
		So what we would do is, here's what I'm thinking for the next year.
		By March we should have the building.
		By maybe May, we should have the studio.
		So we're talking about end of next spring and getting into next summer.
		What we can do is, on Friday night shows, after the show ends, we keep it going live, and we have about 20 website members who can sign up for tickets or put on a wait list for them, and then you get invited out to come hang out.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Or do a concert outside with thousands of people coming in.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We'll do that, but we can't do that every Friday.
		You know, so it would be like 20 to 30 people in this big space hanging out as like a mixer with drinks and snacks and some music.
		And then we'll film the music, but maybe like once a month or every other month.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Once a month raver.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Big raver.
		Outdoor stage.
		We'll get like a big band, like, like legit, you know, we'll hire a legit big band and we'll have tons of people, but that requires a ton of logistics.
		Comedians.
		Y'all definitely dude.
		Definitely.
		We're super stoked on working with Ryan Long, because that dude is a genius.
unidentified		Oh, he's funny.
		I just got to see him when I was in California like a month ago.
		He was hilarious.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		He's great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely fantastic.
		All right, let's see.
		James Gross says, I saw the RA show from yesterday this morning, and he was hammering the black experience as a topic.
		Got me wondering if you'd consider asking Anthony Brian Logan on the show.
		I'm not familiar with him.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he's awesome.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		He's an interesting person.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's great.
		Yeah.
		What's his bit?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		What do you say, Shane?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		He just covers the culture war, I think.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		He wears great hats.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		He does, yeah, that's also true.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		He's fantastic.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		He's really smart.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		He's cool.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bob Samarczyk says, as a Slavic person of color, I'm personally offended by the white privilege demonstrated by tonight's panel.
unidentified		Oh, wow.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Damn right.
		I should have been leading the show here.
		You should be root cast.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Luke.
		But Luke, what percentage Polish are you?
		Are you 100%?
unidentified		100%.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're 100%?
unidentified		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm about 40% Polish, though.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So you're mixed race?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I am.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Irish, too.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I'm here, you're like, down here in the totem pole.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know, actually.
		That would make Shane mixed race.
		So yeah, there's less mixed race people.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		But I'm totally Slavic.
unidentified		So if I'm half black and you're 100% black.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is the beauty of intersectionality.
unidentified		I just want to know who's more impressed.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I'm right here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Who can break down?
		Is there like a chart breaking down the quadrants?
		Yeah, we need this.
unidentified		Don't try to get in between me and my people's struggles.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		My family left Poland too.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yours fought them.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		No, I left Poland.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That's right, you left Poland.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I left Poland.
unidentified		That's real.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I left New York.
unidentified		Oh, I mean... That's Poland of today.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Poland 2.0, yeah.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		The Poland's actually doing really good now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's right, this is a good one.
		Nova Carrillo says, Vosch's take on the RA video.
		Quote, look, Tim Pool is a conservative and that means by necessity you're going to be a racist.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think Vosch needs to just watch the show.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		He would benefit, yes.
unidentified		What does Vosch think of black conservatives if black people can't be racist?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he believes that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he believes that.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like, we've actually had really good conversations, and I think for the most part, on the core of issues, we agree, but on reality, he lives in a left bubble.
		Like, I actually pulled up proof of that with Ground News showing, you know, like, what, 85% of his interaction is all left-wing media.
		So I don't think he actually knows the perspective of us or people on the right.
		So he can certainly understand the things that the left are doing that he disagrees with that are principally wrong, but he doesn't understand what our opinions are.
		When he came here, he was like, you're far right.
		And I was like, what?
		Have you ever listened to what I've had to say?
		I was like, I can understand someone calling me a moderate centrist or even center-right if they want to make an argument, but like far-right and even conservative?
unidentified		Not only has he listened to you, but he's never listened to a far-right person then.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		If he's actually saying that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And what does far-right really mean?
		I don't know.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Nothing anymore.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't mean anything.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're like laissez-faire capitalists or are they Nazis?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Liberal doesn't mean anything either.
		Classical liberal, but people might see that and think that's far-right depending on where you're standing on the spectrum.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright, I gotta address it.
		ReallyNow says, not gonna lie, last night was the first time I disliked a Timcast and that guest was dumb.
		Well, I'll put it this way.
		You are free to dislike all of our videos if you believe that the video and the substance of the content we produce deserves to be disliked.
		But I will push back and say, if you dislike the content we produce, like you click the button, because you disagree with the guest, well that hurts us.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That hurts us in the long run.
		So my attitude is like, I think it was good that we had RA on the show and we had this discussion and heated debate.
		Because I don't want to be in an echo chamber.
		I want to bring on guests that argue with us and challenge us.
		And I thought it was actually a fantastic example of everything I disagree with when it comes to wokeness.
		And so I thought that was good.
		I thought it was good.
		And some people even pointed out, you got to hear me, Luke, and Lydia and Ian express our ideas on issues more in depth than we normally would because we usually don't have someone there presenting those arguments.
		So I think it's good, and if you like the show, then you give us a like.
		If you don't like a particular show, just because whatever, feel free to give us a dislike.
		Eric Miller says, maybe wokeness isn't a cult, but an infection, and they're just mindless super spreaders.
		I think R.A.
		was just trapped in a CRT bubble to the point he just strawmanned all night.
		But respect for showing up.
		Yeah, and Lydia, you sent him video, so he knew exactly.
		But I think the problem was that was his only exposure to the show.
		So like, he didn't see the seven or eight videos I made saying that Chauvin was wrong.
		He saw only the court trial videos where I was like, whoa, the prosecutor dropped screwing this case up like crazy, and it looks like on the merits of manslaughter case.
		He didn't like that.
		But he didn't see anything else I said, anything else I reported on.
		It's funny when people are like, when have you ever spoken up about what happened with George Floyd?
		And I'm like, here's five video links to my videos.
		And people are like, oh, whoa, I didn't know that.
		I'm like, just watch my show, dude.
		Don't get your news from memes.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I'm more than a meme.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		People get their news from memes, man.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, for sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know?
		Okay.
		Daniel Irving says, part of the problem is that most people that scream racist have never seen an actual racist.
		And I love it how, yesterday, I kept calling R.A.
		racist, and the left was, like, upset about it.
		They were like, how dare he?
		And I'm like, I don't know, it's kind of weird, because, like... Technically correct.
		Yeah, he's a white dude, right?
		Isn't he inherently racist?
		And he can do no... He can do no... Like, he has to... He has to accept his racism and bow down to CRT and all that stuff?
		All right, let's see if we got some other, uh, what is this?
		Joshua Allbritton says, can I please get a business shout out for Papa Allbritton's Florida cow whips?
		Hope you received and liked the whip I made for you.
		I'm trying to sell enough to earn 4k for tuition for trucking school.
		Oh, very cool.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh my gosh.
		Is this the guy that sent the whip?
		Cause I freaking love whips.
		My dad used to have one and I still know how to work one and I love it.
		It's awesome.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		This is a family-friendly show, Linda, please.
unidentified		I just thought that was like a racist dog whistle.
unidentified		I don't know about that one, Lydia.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		No, it was really well-made.
		It's really well-tightly braided.
		Oh, I'm sure it was.
		Alright, Olivia, calm down.
		The show's taking a great turn.
unidentified		I'm just saying.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I had to bring it there.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Olivia.
unidentified		Alright, Luke, calm down.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Zorork Graft says, bro, RA is so far gone that last year he made a statement saying
		he was a better rapper than Eminem.
		The full amount of delusion is understandable now.
		Well, I don't know about being better than Eminem, but I will say he's actually really
unidentified		He's pretty good.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Did you see Eminem's rap against Trump?
unidentified		I mean, there's an argument to make there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Eminem made an anti-woke rap that was just not really that good.
		Eminem's had good stuff in the past.
		But, look, just because you guys don't like the argument we got into, and I'm critical of the guy, I legit think you gotta watch his stuff because he is really good at what he does.
		But I think even he said it, that one of the things that held him back from bigger fame and notoriety was that he was a hothead.
		And that, you know, there are stories about him, like, you know, being really disrespectful and angry with producers and companies.
		And so that, you know, kept him away from bigger stuff, but he's still really big and really famous.
		He's an amazing lyricist.
		He worked with Biggie, he worked with Wu-Tang, he worked with Mobb Deep.
		He's got a he's got a video criticizing the media. It's Amazing his Twitter feed is like free Assange. Yeah speech
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		stuff. I was like, it's nothing like what I was he's an amazing lyricist
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, he worked with Biggie. He worked with Wu Tang.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah with Mob deep so I mean he's been around very long time, but
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		there's a video I think I mean, he's a good rapper, man.
		He's good.
		Now, if he wants to come out and say he's better than Eminem and stuff, I just feel like it's a little bit arrogant, I guess.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Maybe he was trolling?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Or it's just the hip hop, you know, stuff like he's going to, you know, create kind of beef or whatever.
		Or whatever.
		I don't know.
		But don't judge a person's talents based on their political opinions.
		Because I'll tell you this, Chris Evans has got a garbage bag full of trash opinions in my view, but I think he's a great actor.
		I thought he did a really great job in Knives Out.
		I thought the movie was great.
		A little woke, but you know, still a pretty good movie.
		And, you know, I don't know.
		We can separate art from the artist, right?
		Alright, let's grab some more of these super chats here.
		Brendan Does says the Salty Cracker is being banned on Rumble right now.
		If Dave Rubin is defending Rumble's recent business changes, ask him directly why such a freedom-centered and outspoken individual is being cancelled at this very moment.
		Why is Salty Cracker being banned on Rumble?
		I don't know that channel. Well, well, I guess I don't know a lot about the core substance of what their views are
		I know that these get the salty crew they come in the chat all the time and they're shouting them out and everything
		like that But I honestly I can't say that I care. I don't think rumble
		should be censoring anybody anybody. Yep. I Don't know man
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Let the law handle it, right?
		Let the government, let the law... If it's legal... Exactly.
		If it's legal, speech, allow it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think there are issues about not having to promote certain things.
		Like, Rumble's got a front page where it's like podcasts and other shows that they editorially promote.
		I don't think you're entitled to that.
		I don't think I'm entitled to that.
		If my content can be on Rumble and people can go find it through the URL and search for it and there's no shadow banning, they don't have to market me.
		But actively removing stuff?
		They should not be doing that.
		But we'll see.
		We're talking with the guys over at Rumble.
		Maybe we'll have someone from the Rumble team come out here and do a show with us and talk about all this stuff.
		I think that'd be very great.
		And we have some ideas.
		Look, Rumble is a net positive.
		A huge net positive.
		Everything that's going on with Rumble is great.
		It's good.
		I just feel like it's short-term, not long-term solution.
		And so, I'm worried about it.
		And I think, I will say this too, as far as it goes with Rumble.
		The criticisms that I've had are mostly about what might end up happening to Rumble.
		That is bad for us.
		But I will say, everything happening now is a net positive.
		You know, competition for Silicon Valley and all that stuff is a good thing.
		All right.
		Derek Watkins says Senate version of the NDAA changed Section 716 allowing natural immunity and Section 720 allowing general under honorable conditions, meaning military members can lose GI Bill education benefits.
unidentified		Whoa.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		See, this is what I thought.
		This is what I thought.
		Tony Gillard says, Luke is a JoJo fan.
		I'm offended and amazed.
		I definitely need that shirt.
		I thought it was an anime reference.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
		It's a very deep reference to the politically understanding.
		If you watch this show, we made a reference to this, you know, JoJo saying.
		And you really got to be deep in the weeds to understand this one.
		So this is a carefully curated shirt for the people who are in the know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Really, now, says it wasn't the argument.
		He drove me nuts.
		He provided no sources.
		They didn't like the way he spoke, but I don't... He had a Brooklyn accent.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Whatever.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, I'll tell you this.
		Well, no, I'm gonna leave it there.
		I don't want to beat a dead horse, because I'm just gonna be saying the same thing I said already.
		Ashley Parrish says Timcast IRL is becoming popular here in Houston suburbs.
		Had two different cars pull up next to me tonight with it blasting from their speakers.
		Wow, that's crazy.
		It's so weird to be on Twitter and like I was trending nationwide and I'm just like, I don't like that.
		Vosh had a really funny tweet.
		It was a meme where it was like, I can't remember.
		It was a meme where it was like, I fear nothing, but there's one thing that really scares me.
		And then it like, he, you know, whatever that meme is.
		And it pointed to, it said trending Vosh.
		And I'm like, I know that feeling.
		Like, I don't want to know why people, why I'm trending.
		What are they talking about?
unidentified		I didn't even see the Ari stuff until like a few hours ago.
		And so when I like woke up and saw the message from Liz, I can come on and I see you trending and I see the clips.
		I was like, it's a trap.
		Yeah.
		I was like, it's a trap.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, we were going to have Michael Graves on, but he couldn't come.
		So we were like, who can come at such short notice?
		Who's nearby or whatever.
unidentified		The afterthought, Olivia.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I was downstairs drinking.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ian wasn't here either.
		And I was like, who's available right now?
		We've got no guests and Ian's gone too.
		And then I was like, oh, Shane, you got a book?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why don't you come up and hang out?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Shout out to Chris Carr for these drinks.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we had a Christmas party.
		There was a Secret Santa.
		We went to a local pizza place and got wings and pizza.
		It was awesome.
		Chris Carr, who's the executive editor for TimCast.com, he made the Grinch, the Santa, and the Rudolph drinks.
		And it's all very heavy alcohol.
		I can't drink.
		I tasted it and I was like... It's strong.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		And he edited this book.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		Yep.
		And art by Jessica.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Jessica Boone.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I got a crazy gift by Jessica.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		She gave me a portrait of me with a firearm, a flag, a cowboy hat and glasses, and this crazy cool Burning Man hat that's all weird and furry.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I thought that was a $20 limit.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, she said she went to the Salvation Army.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		She said she stole it.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Not the Salvation Army, like Goodwill or whatever.
		And then she found it there for cheap.
		And then she drew the photo.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I see.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Which is pretty cool.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was saying her labor is worth more than $20.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, absolutely.
		She's great.
		She does amazing work.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you post it yet, the photo?
unidentified		No, not yet.
unidentified		You gotta post it on Instagram.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright, let's grab some more of these here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Superchats.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I'll post it tonight on LukeWeAreChange.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Some Norwegian guy says you should have Gadsad on sometime.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Isn't he in Canada?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		He is.
		He has an open invitation, but we didn't want to do long-distance like a Zoom call with him.
		Yeah, I don't want to do Zoom.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't really work.
		It's IRL.
		Yeah, it is.
		Originally it was IRL because it was gonna be a vlog and then it was IRL because we were doing like, I don't know, in-person interviews or whatever.
		But we've never done remote stuff.
		I don't want to do remote stuff.
		It doesn't have the same feel.
		It doesn't have the same energy and vibes.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Like imagine yesterday's conversation over like a Zoom call.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		That would have not been good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's no magic.
		I was on Ben Shapiro's show.
		I think it was a Sunday special earlier in the year.
		And we had to record it because we didn't have that good of internet at the time.
		I recorded it and then I had to have the memory card driven.
		Drive it somewhere, not to Ben Shapiro, but we drove it somewhere with internet that took like half an hour and then upload it.
		And then they basically took the recordings and overlaid them.
		But it wasn't the same.
		It was like, there was a... I don't know.
		It just doesn't work as well.
		There's no energy.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		This is energy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's no energy, you know?
		I'm looking forward to when we get a chance.
		We've actually been trying to figure out having Ben Shapiro come on.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because we are big fans, and I think it would be a really amazing conversation.
		But of course, the dude is one of the busiest guys on the planet, and you can't ask someone not to do their show to do your show.
		It just is a weird thing.
		But we are actually planning on spending a week at the Daily Wire HQ.
		We were planning it actually in November, but we just couldn't make it work.
		It was very difficult.
		And then we ended up going to Austin because we had a week to build this mobile studio, and then by then the plans for Nashville didn't make sense.
		But we're thinking maybe in January, depending on the weather, because we don't want to be driving a trailer through snow and mountain and stuff, we might go to Nashville, which is not too far from here.
		I think it's like nine hours.
		And then hang out just outside the Daily Wire headquarters and do a week-long show with the Daily Wire crew.
		And then maybe even, if Ben's in town, have him pop in like Joe did, and then do another insane Tuesday episode where we have nine people all yelling at each other, all the guys from the Daily Wire.
		That was great!
		That was one of our biggest shows ever, and I'm so... It was just amazing.
		It was just ridiculous and great.
		All right, let's read some more.
		Ethan Randall says, did y'all already cover the 6th Circuit Court ruling on vaccine mandate?
		Which one was that?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		So many rulings.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't know which one that was.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		There was one out of California I saw, but I'm not sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That might be the one that reinstated it, I think.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think they reinstated it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Gemini Ryder says, would you consider having Tom McDonald on the show?
unidentified		Of course!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Open invitation.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Tom's awesome.
		I've spoken to him a couple times.
		He's a rad dude.
		E-Z-A-F.
		Yes, exactly.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Tom versus R.A.? ?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, they're friends.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		They're good friends.
		Oh, okay.
		Well, I mean, like, in a talk.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I mean, that'd be cool.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		A nice debate between two friends.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I feel like that might help simmer things down and get a real conversation going, too, especially considering they are friends.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And, you know, we don't know where Tom is, though, on that kind of, you know, debate.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't matter.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It'd be a good conversation.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it'd be great.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Tom's rad.
		Amazing music.
		But I think, I think you look at his music, you kind of know where he is.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I get hints, but he kind of rags on everybody.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		But he definitely has a band.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's good.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, as you should.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is what I like.
		When I went to Joe Rogan's show a couple years ago, he ragged on everybody and everybody laughed.
		Jonathan Pye.
		The Jonathan Pye show I saw with him and Andrew Doyle was legit the funniest comedy performance I've ever seen.
		Hands down.
		I was physically in pain from laughing.
		I'm not kidding.
		It was like... Andrew Doyle is the dude who does the Titania McGrath Twitter.
		The fake woke.
		It was so... I saw him perform in New York and the beats were just so on point that I was laughing harder and harder and harder and then I was like... I can't breathe.
		Yeah, it'd be awesome to have Andrew.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		We're going to.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, as soon as we figure out how to get him over from the UK.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, everyone's trapped in their countries, man.
		Man, I really want to get Sargon, too.
		Sargon and Count Dankula, man.
		You guys gotta come down.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		We both have kids.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're talking about doing another two-week lockdown in the United Kingdom now, which is crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We gotta get him.
		Guys, you gotta apply to be refugees.
		Just escape.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Come to Florida, New Hampshire.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Let's start a new life.
unidentified		Seriously.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Canada is part of the Commonwealth or whatever.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can just go there, right?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		No, don't go to Canada.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		You don't want to go there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, at least it gets... No, no, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Once they get there, then they can come here.
unidentified		Yeah.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Flee.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		New Hampshire borders Canada.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look at this.
		Logan Doherty says, I honestly thought last night was one of the best shows thus far.
		Although I was getting super heated, it was amazing content and a great conversation.
		A lot of people didn't like it, but it is our most engaged with member segment ever.
		It resulted in this massive viral trend.
		I do not pursue this kind of Jerry Springer type interactions.
		A lot of people were like, I got messages like, if you pursue this route with these like, you know, rage debates, and they're like, you'll be so big.
		And I'm like, no, no, we don't want any of that.
		No, thank you, man.
		I never thought this operation would grow to what it is right now.
		I'm like in my living room with a GoPro 4 sitting on top of my monitor, and I'm talking about things for 10 minutes.
		And that's all I've ever been doing.
		And then it just kept growing and getting bigger and bigger.
		And now we have like 30 employees.
		There's a book on the shelf by Shane edited by Chris drawn by Jessica put
		together by this crazy, amazing team in this new studio.
		Now we've got a 7,500 square foot, 25 foot tall, uh, building being put
		together with a new studio.
unidentified		And I'm just like, how did all of this come together?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Because you're busy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I'm just having fun, man.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
		It's true.
		But everyone here is hard working.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bro, how long did it take you to get that book put together?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Outside of the writing?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Outside of the writing?
		I talked to you about this two weeks ago.
		But we talked about it when I first met you, but I did it in two weeks.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We were, like, two weeks ago, I was like, it'd be awesome if we could get a book done by Christmas.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you were like, I can do it.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Done.
unidentified		And that's sitting right here in the show.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's amazing.
		Yeah, everybody's just working like crazy, man.
		So it's really great.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		But it's fun.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is fun.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I'm loving it.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		It's super fun.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright, we'll grab one more.
		Incarnation Art says, Tim, love you, man.
		Keep your head up.
		Would love to see Viva Frey and Raketa Law on again.
		Did I pronounce those both wrong?
		And I would love to make it on one day to talk about the perspective of being mixed race and always being expected to choose.
		I hear you on that one, man.
		Yeah, it'd be really cool to get Viva and Rakeda on at the same time.
		That'd be fun, yeah.
		I don't know, it's really hard for... Viva's in Canada, so it's hard.
		Where's Rakeda?
		He's in New York?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's nearby.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		He's closer, I think.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that'd be absolutely fantastic.
		And Robert Barnes again, too.
		Maybe with the Kim Potter trial or something like that?
		We could have a legal roundtable or something.
		So, you know, we'll check it out.
		And to everybody else, thanks for the super chats.
		It's Friday night, so we're getting really close to the holidays, so smash that like button if you want to support the show.
		And this time, smash it for Luke.
		Luke is sitting here and he needs your likes.
		Smash that like button.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I don't need it.
		But just really quickly, if you want to support a real person of color's business, you can give me your money because of your white guilt.
		On lukeuncensored.com.
		You can also support me, of course, by just going to enoughofcensorship.com.
		People ask, what's the best way to support you?
		Signing up on the email list is one of the best things you guys could do since, of course, it's not a part of the big tech.
		So thank you guys so much for having me on.
		It was a blast.
		It's fun.
		I always love being here for the conversations and it's always surprising and awesome.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Don't forget, go to TimCast.com, become a member as well.
		If you want to help support our work directly, you can also go and follow us at TimCastIRL.
		And of course, right now, open a new tab and type in invertedworldbook.com and Shane can tell you all about it.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		First of all, thank you for giving me the opportunity to do this.
		It's a dream.
		I mean, I've had so much fun.
		I started this book on June 20th this year.
		The first sentence was written down the road, right after I met you.
		That's so awesome.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And, uh...
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		275 pages.
		275 pages later, I talk about simulation theory, uh, and ghosts that I've, may or may not have
		encountered reaching through the simulation.
		I've tracked a serial killer in Long Island, which our third and final part will air on Sunday morning on YouTube at 10 a.m.
		It's also on Apple and Spotify.
		And yeah, it's true crime, paranormal, aliens, people being abducted, children being taken out of their rooms.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So that's invertedworldbook.com, but you're already getting started on the next book, which I'm really excited for.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This one's a bit of just like a collection of tales, but the next one is Ghost of the Civil War, which is murder, conspiracies, lost gold, UFOs.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, this is like the age of COVID paranoia and the paranormal stuff going through it all.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was just cool when you were telling me about the people down there and their anger towards Sherman.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah.
		I wore a West Point hat when I went down there.
		That's where I grew up, on a military base.
		And all the Civil War generals came from there.
		So I thought it was a good middle ground.
		But Sherman's a bad word.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Burned down everything.
		to hear that and then to hear these people, the stories, like you guys gotta understand,
		like the stuff, I don't want to spoil anything, but some of the creepy conspiracy stuff going
		on down there related to this stuff is crazy.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I'm in tunnels under the city.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I've got ground penetrating radar looking for skeletons.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We've got to get that one.
		I'm like, the first one's out.
		We've got to get that one out.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be so cool.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Six months, probably.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Six months?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Next book.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, dude.
		The art's going to be fantastic.
		And then I'm excited for, loosely, we're talking about this, the Chicago Mafia, Ghost Stories, Al Capone, Bachelor's Grove.
		It's going to be so amazing.
		You got social media you want to shout out?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I'm Shane Cashman everywhere.
		I also co-host a podcast called Ready Slow with Sean Strong, and I have a members-only podcast I do in the old IRL studio.
		It's on TimCast.com.
		That comes out every Sunday night.
		And check out the book, InvertedWorldBook.com.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so actually, on TimCast.com, there's members-only segments once a week about these stories that you've investigated.
		So some of them are crazy DMT aliens.
		But we are actually putting together an additional add-on to that, which I think... I don't know where you guys are on that.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I think we're going to record it tomorrow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, uh, so it's you and Chris Carr just generally talking conspiracy.
unidentified		Yeah.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So it's like a whole new show actually.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're trying to figure out how to do it because we don't want it to like interfere with inverted world because they're similar, but this is the general conversation on just like general mystery.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I think we're going to come with articles and we'll all kind of discuss like a round table, a very specific thing.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Instead of me just kind of like spinning.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like this is, this is you investigating stories and telling these stories.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And this one is discussion of conspiracies and mysteries and stuff.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		For sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be awesome, man.
		Awesome.
		Uh, Olivia, you got stuff you want to shout out, right?
unidentified		Yeah, well I've been a Tim Cass contributor for a few months.
		I have a new article coming out shortly.
		I'm waiting for Chris to get back to me, but it's basically examining the history of racism, anti-blackness in the Democratic Party, how it affects people today, and why white liberals feel comfortable taking away black conservatives or black independents' blackness for their own benefit.
		So that should be out shortly.
		I'm on all social media platforms, O-L-I-V-I-A-R-O-N-D-E-A-U, and I also have a baby YouTube channel if you guys want to subscribe to that, too.
		It's under my name as well.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Sweet!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for coming!
unidentified		Thank you so much!
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Thank you guys very much for tuning in for the newer, calmer version of Timcast, where we reflect on our wild and crazy days yesterday.
		It was very fun and exciting, and I feel like we learned a lot, and I feel like we had a good conversation.
		So, thank you all for tuning in then, and for tuning in now, you guys may follow me on Twitter, Somebody said, did you hear Jack Murphy freak out on Sydney?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I'm seeing those comments too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What happened?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe it.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe it.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		They both have some freak out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's probably him arguing and it's like, sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I hope.
unidentified		I don't know.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		We need sports and mandates.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		We'll see.
		All right, everybody.
		We're gonna get out of here.
		Have a good weekend.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Love you, Jack.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Merry Christmas, everybody, if we don't see you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're only gonna be doing Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday next week because Ian's not here.
unidentified		And Christmas.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Luke's... I don't even think Luke's gonna be on Wednesday.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I'm not gonna be here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then I'm leaving on Thursday.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm out too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There we go.
		Merry Christmas if we don't see you, but we'll be back Monday.
		Thanks for hanging out.
		We'll see y'all then.

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