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Dec. 21, 2021 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Alex Jones Goes TO WAR With January 6th Committee, Files Lawsuit w/Fresh&Fit
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luke rudkowski
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myron gaines
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tim pool
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walter weekes
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lydia smith
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tim pool
Okay.
He is refusing to cooperate, and good for him.
A bunch of other people have as well, and I think that these are truly the worst of the worst.
It looks like, I think it's fair to say, I think most reasonable people would assume this.
The goal of the committee is just to stop a Trump 2024 run.
We've got this ongoing grand jury in New York.
There's actually a grand jury convened to indict Donald Trump, and grand juries tend to indict.
So Donald Trump may very well get indicted, but at the very least, at least Alex Jones.
You'd expect him to, and I'm glad he is.
He's standing up, he's fighting back, he's refusing.
And he released a statement a while ago where he said basically that they're going to rope him in.
They're going to bring him in, they're going to ask him questions, they're going to claim he lied, so he's best just pleading the fifth and fighting this.
So, again, good for Alex.
We've also got Joe Biden's administration basically saying there's going to be death and pain for people just before Christmas.
Thanks for that.
Because they're unvaccinated.
And we're gonna get, I believe tomorrow, a big announcement about their new measures and their plan for tackling COVID.
A lot of people think it's going to be serious restrictions, possibly having to do with air travel, especially during the holidays.
This'll be big.
And we got a couple other crazy stories, too, in that capacity.
We've got Cory Booker, we got Elizabeth Warren, we got Jim Cramer, all triple-vaxxed and boosted.
We all got COVID.
So there's a theory.
I got a theory.
They lied about it.
They lied about getting vaccinated.
How much you want to bet?
These people lied about it.
But we'll talk about all that stuff.
And then we got a couple other stories that are freaky.
We got three retired generals saying that they believe there is a possibility of a military coup in 2024 because the military is straight divided right now and something must be done about it.
And then we've got an advisor to the CIA Who tracks civil wars in other countries, saying that we may be in the third phase already.
She basically said, there's three phases.
One and two, we've long since passed.
The third phase, we may have entered on January 6th.
So of course, January 6th is like this nightmare scenario for these people, but we'll get into all of that.
Joining us today to talk about this and more is Fresh and Fit.
You guys want to introduce yourselves?
walter weekes
We're back, man.
myron gaines
Myron Gaines.
walter weekes
Fresh Prince's CEO.
Hey man, so that's fit.
I'm fresh.
Don't get confused.
But yeah, we're back, man.
Happy to be here.
Other than you guys.
tim pool
Cool.
You guys want to just explain real quick what you guys do?
myron gaines
Oh yeah, we should probably do that, right?
walter weekes
They're like, who are these guys?
Random dudes!
myron gaines
Some guy in a chain and a guy in a skull shirt.
Who the hell are these guys?
No, Myron Gaines, man, we have the Fresh Fit Podcast.
We talk about, you know, becoming a better man.
We're the number one men's podcast in the world.
We talk about, you know, making money, getting girls, getting in shape, just becoming the best version of yourself.
walter weekes
Investing as well?
myron gaines
Investing, exactly.
Real estate and credit scores.
I'm really big into real estate.
Bought a close on my seventh property for the year at the end of the month.
So, you know, we're just all about helping guys, you know, self-improve and understand that the dating marketplace has changed and you gotta adapt, baby.
tim pool
That's a lot to manage, seven properties.
myron gaines
Dude, it is a lot.
But my pops helps me out because I got property in Florida and then Connecticut, and my dad manages the Connecticut property.
luke rudkowski
Are you the founder of BLM?
With how many houses you have?
myron gaines
I am the founder.
I am the founder, actually.
tim pool
I'm the founder now.
Patrice, what was her name?
lydia smith
Patrice Collins or something?
tim pool
Five houses at like half a million bucks.
And she was like, it's okay, it's for my family.
unidentified
Huge family.
tim pool
I think if you're famous and you're not rich, you're stupid.
I don't you know I guess the issue is like I don't know why I don't care you know like oh famous person is rich like
unidentified
Yes!
myron gaines
Yeah, I think if you're famous you're not rich. You're stupid
tim pool
Well, then what one of the other things we'll get into as well as I guess I you've been exposed as a fed
unidentified
You're a fed. Yes. I got doxxed and I'm here He's the ops man.
myron gaines
Yeah, I'm the ops brother.
walter weekes
Get out of here.
myron gaines
Yeah, man So, you know, I got docs like, you know that if you google my real name, which I won't even say but at this point it is what it is like, you know Basically like people put out my real name and then if you google my real name like an affidavit comes back for a case I did right before I resigned And you know, I guess I'll just say it at this point.
I was a former special agent with Homeland Security Investigations, HSI.
I did criminal investigations from 2013.
I was an agent in 2013 to 2020.
I was an intern from 2010 to 2013.
And then I became an agent in 2013, went to the academy, and then got stationed to Laredo, Texas, my first duty station.
Then I went to Miami, Florida.
Fantastic career, it was a great job.
I have nothing bad to say about the agency or the job itself.
tim pool
But that was during your podcast, right?
myron gaines
I'm sorry?
tim pool
That was during your podcast, right?
myron gaines
Yes.
So I was doing the podcast and then, you know, they didn't like my pod.
You know, we talk about controversial things like womanizing.
So, so they didn't really like it.
And they're like, Hey, you know, you got to pick one, you know, cause I had my, my business.
I was doing my, I was running my fitness business on my podcast.
Right.
And then I also was doing my job with, with the feds.
And they were like, Hey, like, you know, you gotta be, Testifying, you have to have a certain type of character, blah, blah, blah, you know, which I understood.
I get it.
You know, I'm voicing my opinion on YouTube and it might not be the best, you know, for testifying for cases.
And I had a pretty big case at the time, so I got it.
But, you know, I was kind of put in a weird position where I had to make a choice.
So at the time we were just expanding, we had invested in the studio.
So I said, you know what, I'm going to take a bet on myself.
And, you know, I ended up working out, but, you know, I have, again, nothing bad to say about the agency.
It was a lot of fun.
tim pool
We'll get into it.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I got some questions, but we're gonna get into that a lot later, of course.
But hey guys, it's pretty crazy out there as you guys are hearing all the news.
Don't forget, you have to obey Dr. Fauci and Lord Savior Bill Gates every day.
Don't forget to take your shots.
Excuse me, shots.
How many?
tim pool
That's medical advice, Luke.
luke rudkowski
I'm not giving any medical advice.
tim pool
You gotta tell people to go talk to their doctor.
luke rudkowski
Talk to your medical doctor.
Do whatever you gotta do, but just obey Fauci, Bill Gates, at all costs.
tim pool
I guess they're doctors, right?
luke rudkowski
They're beyond that.
tim pool
If there is something beyond... Super doctors.
luke rudkowski
Like, super god overlords.
How many, you know, shots exactly?
I think 1984 should be fitting.
I think that exact number of shots, I think, will definitely help slow the spread.
And that's why I made this t-shirt that reads 1984 shots to slow the spread, which you can exclusively get on thebestpoliticalshirts.com.
And because you do, I'm here.
Thanks so much for having me.
I'm excited about this conversation.
Thanks so much for coming on.
walter weekes
No, thank you.
Do you believe in depopulation?
luke rudkowski
Absolutely, 100%.
It's not that I believe in it, a lot of very powerful people do, and that's the most important aspect of it.
tim pool
What you'll get is, in the establishment, they use the most extreme version of what that means, versus Bill Gates literally doing a TED Talk where he's like, we want to slow population growth down, you know what I mean?
So like, if you say that, you could be referring to Bill Gates, you know, doing research on implantable birth control chips.
Which is a real thing, but it sounds crazy. I didn't believe Luke when he brought it up.
lydia smith
Yeah, I had to look it up.
tim pool
It's like Bloomberg reported on it. It's not even a big deal apparently to these guys.
And if you mention that, they make it seem like you're talking about some wild,
crazy conspiracies and all that stuff.
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Let's just talk about Mr. Alex Jones already.
We got CNN!
Reporting.
I love to use CNN for this stuff.
Alex Jones sues House January 6th Committee.
They say conspiracy theorist and right-wing provocateur Alex Jones says he will not comply with demands the House Select Committee investigating January 6th has made for his testimony and records.
According to a new lawsuit he filed on Monday, the lawsuit seeks to block the subpoenas and claims Jones should be protected under the First Amendment.
He says that he will also decline to answer questions so as not to incriminate himself.
It lands at a moment when the committee has pushed aggressively for witnesses to share what they know about the planning of the January 6th rallies.
And they are intentionally, in my opinion, this is what I believe, the January 6th committees are intentionally conflating the rallies with the people storming the Capitol.
Because there were a ton of people who were just like regular people there waving American flags as Trump was like we're gonna go watch Peacefully in blah blah blah and then they went home and there was a lady She was like a psyops officer or whatever in the army.
She had nothing to do with anything at the Capitol She went to the rally gone discharged There were a bunch of people have lost their jobs now apparently the guy from Bob's Burgers has been fired one of the guys because they were like We think he was there.
Look, I think the January 6th committee is completely insane.
I think it's all bunk BS.
And I think they're trying to strip resources away from people who support Trump so that they can't support him as well moving into 2024.
luke rudkowski
Well, they have to include the rallies because there's only so many Chewbacca guys, grannies, and feds that they have to go after that were a part of everything else that happened that other day.
It's also interesting to note here that Jones actually volunteered to submit documents and answers in writing for this particular committee and then the committee refused to do this.
They are also requesting his phone records and as we know the previous committee members released private phone records.
There's also some accusations about phone records being doctored after they garnered them from this January 6th committee.
So there's a lot of reasons why a lot of people are saying, I'm not going to be complying with this.
And this counter lawsuit is going to be interesting because I bet there's probably going to be discovery on both sides, right?
tim pool
Maybe.
I mean, Steve Bannon tried that.
You know, he was filing saying he wanted evidence released on what the government had on this stuff.
And then the judge was like, no.
myron gaines
A lot of work for a misdemeanor.
tim pool
A lot of work for misdemeanors, right?
myron gaines
Because I think a lot of people forget that, like, these charges that they're coming after them for.
You know, because I've read a couple of the criminal complaints ran by the FBI agents.
And, yeah, they're misdemeanor charges and it's a lot of work to be going after a misdemeanor charge and just so people know, like, you know, The Feds typically don't do a case unless it's, number one, a felony, and then number two, it's gonna do substantial time, because the thing is with the federal court system is you have AUSAs, right?
Assistant United States Attorneys, and, I don't want to sound like a jerk, but they're kind of divas.
They don't take every case that comes to them.
There's a reason why federal prosecutors have such a high win rate, and the reason why is because they pick and choose which cases they want to take.
If a case isn't good enough, they'll say, give it to the state or whatever else.
So, for them to take misdemeanors and push it to this level is fairly unorthodox.
Obviously, I get it, like, you know, hey, these guys broke into the Capitol.
It's a gross act.
tim pool
You've dealt with this stuff?
myron gaines
Yeah.
tim pool
When you were working at the, was it HSI?
myron gaines
Yeah.
So, with this type of stuff, no, not in particular.
I investigated more like Mexican cartels and everything, but I'm very aware, you know what I mean?
tim pool
Right, right, right.
It was in your periphery, maybe?
myron gaines
Yeah, I mean, when you do criminal investigations, regardless of the agency that you work for, whether it's DEA, FBI, whatever it is, we all go through the same federal court system.
We use the same prosecutors, the same judges, etc.
And you get very familiar with what every agency does as far as what their investigative authority is.
And in a lot of cases, you have a lot of overlap.
For example, ATF, DEA, FBI, HSI, we all have something called Title 21, which is we can all do drug investigations to certain extents.
But, you know, this is where the fighting comes in between agencies because, hey, well, this is my target.
No, it's not.
Well, I'm title 21 designated.
Well, I am too.
Blah, blah, blah.
So, you know, so you get to be very familiar with other agencies' authorities because of that very situation where there can be confliction issues.
luke rudkowski
I have a question.
There's a lot of circumstantial evidence that there was a lot of undercover federal agents involved in January 6th, whether provocateurs or organizers.
Do you think a lot of those rumors are true?
And have you been able to see some of the circumstantial evidence suggesting that?
myron gaines
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised.
The public will think it's undercover, but it's nothing more than an agent in plain clothes.
There is no uniform for 1811s or special agents.
They wear regular clothing.
Sometimes they might wear a suit like you see in the movies, sometimes they wear jeans, sometimes they wear streetwear.
So it wouldn't be improbable for one to be there just because of the situation for them to be out there and see what's going on.
And bam, you got your eyewitnesses right there.
You know, if you're like in a real undercover capacity, where you're like dealing with criminals and everything else like that, and you're actually in an undercover position, then that's different.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, there's some crazy videos out there of guys clearly antagonizing, clearly saying, we're going to go to the Capitol, and then those individuals weren't charged.
People calling for violence, not being charged.
So there's a lot of questions surrounding how involved the federal government was, and what extent did they help organize and execute a lot of this.
myron gaines
I could see that as potentially problematic, though, from a prosecutorial standpoint, because if you had a UC agent running around antagonizing the crowd, like, yeah, let's storm the Capitol, blah, blah, blah, that would create so many issues for the prosecution to build a strong case, because then you can say, Well, were they predisposed?
Were they going to do it?
Did the government actually take an active role in entrapping them?
So like, I could see how that could be problematic, you know, from a prosecution standpoint.
tim pool
Those videos seem a bit over the top for me.
There's one guy and he's like wearing like a red hoodie and he's like, everybody, here's what we're going to do.
And I think I agree with you on this one.
They're gonna be able to file, like, the defense is gonna be able to get the evidence the prosecution has.
myron gaines
Exactly.
Now it's possible- Through discovery.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
myron gaines
And they're gonna get everything.
Like, the thing is, is that anytime there's a criminal case built, like, the prosecutor has to hand everything over to the defense, which is considered discovery.
And there's actually huge issues if they don't turn everything over like they
can get disbarred they can get hit with you know a bunch of issues so they always turn everything
over even if it's not in their best interest to do so so if they were to actually do a case and
then they found out the agents were doing this stuff undercover and they antagonize the crowd i
doubt any prosecutor that wants to win would take that case they'd be like hell no because the usas
tim pool
are very picky on what yeah i think it's entirely possible that these guys were some
kind of agent provocateurs or whatever and we've seen this at many protests, even left-wing
protests.
You'll see guys show up.
It's very obvious that they're to start violence and you don't know who they're with.
The problem is, is it possible?
Yes.
I would say, how do you prove it anyway, even if it was the case?
Because it's not going to be through any conventional means if it's true.
So I think the simple answer is it's probably just rowdy guys who are, like, trying to cause trouble.
luke rudkowski
But those guys weren't charged, and there's clear evidence who they are, what they did, and there's videos of them inciting it, there's videos of them calling for it, but why aren't they charged is the big question, and some people say that would be evidence, but it's not official evidence.
tim pool
Well, it's not.
It's actually really simple.
They go to these guys because they know who they are, because they were vocal and loud, and they say, You're going to go to prison unless you tell us the names of all the people who are with you.
And then that guy says, You got it, boss.
And then all of a sudden, he's no longer in the charging documents.
All of a sudden, he's no longer in criminal complaints because he's cooperating and giving everybody up.
So that's what I found really interesting, is that people immediately assume... Happens a lot, all the time.
Especially with the Feds!
myron gaines
Happens all the time.
tim pool
They find the one guy... Look, look, look.
You got all these videos, and the Feds are trying to figure out who these guys are.
Do you know this person?
Do you know this person?
Then you get a video of a guy who's standing there in plain view of the camera, yelling over and over again what to do, and they're like, okay, this is gonna be an easy guy to find.
He's tall, he's this age, he looks like this, we know what he sounds like, he knows where he is.
They find him, and then they say, who is with you?
Who was talking with you, give us your phone, and he says yes.
And then they say, okay, we're not going to charge you because you're cooperating.
luke rudkowski
That's giving the government the benefit of the doubt, which I wouldn't give them here.
walter weekes
I don't think so.
luke rudkowski
In this particular case.
We're going to wait until this data and information comes forward in the court proceedings.
But for right now, there is a lot of circumstantial evidence.
We'll see how it unfolds, but there's still so much that we don't know.
Even the video footage is being kept away from the general public.
tim pool
That's true.
luke rudkowski
Which is crazy.
unidentified
Yep.
luke rudkowski
Which is absolutely not for sure.
tim pool
It's because misdemeanors.
It's because you watch a lot of this footage and it's people bumbling around confused half the time.
You know, there was violence and there was rioting, but... Yeah.
myron gaines
It's... I definitely see both perspectives.
I'm just giving you guys, like, that perspective where, like, if you were to actually do that as a UC, it could be extremely problematic to prosecution.
And knowing prosecutors and how they operate, federal prosecutors especially, they're extremely selective on what they take.
Here's the important thing.
A lot of cases are built on the backs of people testifying against each other.
That's how the big cases are made.
Like if I was an investigator and I got a guy and I see him rallying everybody up, well
I know for a fact this guy has some kind of influence on these guys.
I'm going to turn him.
tim pool
Here's the important thing.
Alex Jones is on video, multiple videos, saying do not do this.
Do not be violent.
He's telling everyone not to go to the Capitol.
They're trying to trick you.
He's trying to stop them.
Of all the people, of many people who were there antagonizing, Alex Jones was doing the opposite.
The reason why I think they're going after him.
They're going after people who used to work for the Trump administration.
They're going after Jones.
They want to drain as much of their resources as possible.
So here's the thing people need to understand about getting called to testify before this committee.
They're gonna say, we hereby subpoena you to release all phone records, all this, all that, all otherwise.
You know what you have to do then?
You've gotta hire a lawyer to do it.
The lawyer's gonna have to go through all your email and figure out what they're entitled to and what they're not based on these demands, and it is gonna get expensive.
Otherwise, I suppose, you're gonna be like, I don't have the money, I can't do it.
And then, I don't know what they'll do.
Maybe take all of your emails?
Maybe try and come after everything you own?
Say, okay, then we'll take everything?
Not like you own, but like all of your private data?
myron gaines
They would have to get a search warrant, though.
Like, with a subpoena, like, you don't... Like, subpoenas are... A lot of the times it depends on what agency does it under what authority, but like... Well, it's Congress.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Subpoenaing information.
luke rudkowski
Well, it's not just that.
It's also the federal government pressing charges on a lot of the people surrounding January 6th, including Owen Schroyer, that has an open case against him and an open investigation by the federal government against him because allegedly he was near the Capitol.
And I think, correct me if I'm wrong, I think there's videos of Jones outside saying, hey, you guys are being set up, stop engaging, stop fighting.
I mean, that video alone in itself, again, love or hate him, there's video of him saying, don't do this, let's be non-violent.
That should exonerate him from a lot of this.
walter weekes
What are the odds of him beating the actual case?
myron gaines
If it's criminal, they're going to need to search for him.
tim pool
It's not criminal, though.
myron gaines
It's not.
luke rudkowski
Oh, in Troyer it is.
tim pool
This is January 6th, this is Congress issuing a subpoena for information for records.
So this means Jones has to file a loose lawsuit to stop them from getting access to his records or whatever.
Because you know what will happen?
They'll get access to his records.
There will be nothing in there incriminating, but there will be embarrassing things that will get leaked to the press.
myron gaines
Of course.
tim pool
Or taken out of context.
They'll manipulate the evidence like they did with Jordan.
myron gaines
But he's got to be able to assert his Fourth Amendment right to some degree.
He has obviously a very strong reasonable expectation of privacy.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, he's gotta be.
Yeah, I really doubt they'd be able to get access to it.
tim pool
I can make it simple for everybody is use end-to-end encryption and use VPNs and tell them to get a warrant.
walter weekes
Yeah, but what if these are like an example to say, hey, you know what?
Here's an example of what we're not to do.
Let's use Alex Jones.
myron gaines
I hope not.
I mean, I think he has the ability and the resources to get a lawyer, but, man, they should not, like, he has a serious reasonable expectation of privacy in his emails, phone communication, etc.
Like, you, because I've, because here's the thing, I've done title three intercepts.
Like, I've done those cases where a title three intercept is when you listen to a phone real time, right?
or to get someone's emails or whatever, it takes an enormous amount of probable cause
to get into that stuff.
Now, I'm not sure, you said it's not a criminal case, but regardless, he's still gonna have
an expectation of privacy, and if the government's gonna come in
and try to get your information, Fourth Amendment, man, and they're gonna need some kind of serious stuff
to be able to get in there.
luke rudkowski
Well, it depends on what kind of judge signs off on it, because if we remember the Edward Snowden,
Glenn Greenwald days, we found out that judges, blankly, just generally, signed everything over,
allowing federal agencies to spy on, of course, If it's a FISA court of changes.
tim pool
You said you did what, title three interceptions?
myron gaines
Yeah, I have.
tim pool
So that's literally like you're listening in and you can hear the phone ring and then like, oh, how does it work?
luke rudkowski
Or can you hear them if the phone's not being active?
myron gaines
No, you can't.
So here's the thing, like, and there's different spectrums of this, but title three is when you're listening to a phone, like for a criminal case, right?
tim pool
They don't know you're eavesdropping.
myron gaines
Yeah, they don't know.
But when I did it, most of the time when the government does it, it's for drug cases.
You know what I'm saying?
So it was a drug investigation that I did and you were listening to it.
Now I will tell you guys, and anyone will tell you this, an affidavit to get probable cause for a Title III intercept, you need more probable cause to listen to someone's phone than to arrest them.
unidentified
Wow.
myron gaines
I'll say that again.
You need more probable cause to listen to their phone to arrest them because the thing is, is you need to establish that the phone is used for some kind of criminal activity.
And to be able to do that, you have to gather evidence to show that that phone is using criminal activity.
A lot of the times it's beyond the threshold of an arrest.
Sorry, go ahead.
tim pool
Have you ever dealt with someone using end-to-end encryption?
luke rudkowski
Like when you're listening to signal phone calls?
tim pool
Well, a better question is VoIP, right?
myron gaines
Yeah.
tim pool
So if someone dials a number and presses go, that's what you're typically hitting, right?
myron gaines
So, I never did on end-to-end encryptions.
tim pool
I always did on phones, but... Well, an end-to-end encryption would just be like, I got signal on my phone, right?
myron gaines
Yeah, like WhatsApp or Signal or Telegram.
tim pool
So that's not going through a phone company, you know what I mean?
So you'd have to go to Facebook or whatever and be like, we want access to direct to this line, you know what I mean?
myron gaines
So I'm not aware at this point, so I can't speak on it in an educated fashion, but I will tell you that when I did them, we did them on phones.
And, you know, it's not that hard because a lot of guys, they would just like use regular phones.
tim pool
Like cell phones?
myron gaines
They would use cell phones.
They would use burner phones and they would change the phone number often.
tim pool
But so you got to get access to these phone companies.
Or is this like... Yeah.
myron gaines
I mean, yeah, you would go through the phone companies to do it.
But you would have to have like an enormous amount of probable cause to do it.
But this is criminal, remember?
So like when you're doing like a criminal case, it has different, you know, sets of procedures than like, let's say, a FISA court.
You know what I'm saying?
That's like more national security related.
You know, that's, you know, classified stuff.
I didn't deal with that side ever, really.
tim pool
And the reason why is because of the pain in the... Let's take it to the meme territory.
We got this story from the Washington Post.
Quote, We are closer to civil war than any of us would like to believe new study says.
This is from Barbara F. Walter, University of California at San Diego, serves on a CIA advisory panel called the Political Instability Task Force that monitors countries around the world and predicts which of them are most at risk of deteriorating into violence.
By law, the task force can't assess what's happening within the United States, but Walter, a longtime friend who has spent her career studying conflicts in Syria, Lebanon, Northern Ireland, Sri Lanka, the Philippines, Rwanda, Angola, Nicaragua, and elsewhere, applied the predictive techniques herself to this country.
Her bottom line is that we are closer to civil war than any of us would like to believe.
She lays out the argument in detail in her new book.
Now, I'll pause here.
Could she just be trying to sell a book?
She's an expert on civil war.
She wants people to read about her area of expertise.
She sees conflict in this country and then tells everybody and then they eat it up.
Or, let me read this.
They're going to say, indeed the U.S.
has already gone through what the CIA identifies as the first two phases of insurgency.
The pre-insurgency and incipient conflict phases, and only time will tell whether the final phase, open insurgency, began with the sacking of the Capitol by Donald Trump supporters on January 6.
I would like to interject, good friends at the Washington Post, let me just add a sentence.
And only time will tell whether the final phase, open insurgency, began with the sacking of cities across the country by Black Lives Matter and Antifa following the George Floyd incident.
You see, they totally skip over that and act like we didn't deal with a hundred plus days of violent ridings and dozens dead.
However, this is the point I want to get to.
Is this woman, who is a CIA advisor, who tells them when other countries are going to break down in a civil war, is she just selling a book, or is this legit?
luke rudkowski
That's a very good question, because you could be absolutely right, it could be sensationalistic, it could be hyperbolic, but there are signs that do prove some merit in her conversation.
Now, the comment that I would add to this, if there is one government secretive agency that knows about civil war, it's the one that has been spreading civil wars all around the world, and that of course is the CIA, which they have been doing all over Latin America, All over the, you know, Asian countries, all over the Middle East.
So, I mean, obviously she comes from a perspective where she also has information where she's privy to that we don't know anything about.
So, when you look at the information that she's able to declassify, the databases she's able to go into, she might be seeing something that We're not allowed to know that could be still classified that does show this kind of bigger partisanship this kind of bigger conflict brewing because we've been talking about it for a very long time and and the conditions that create this kind of partisanship big tech social media and the corporate media they work in tandem to divide people politically those two ingredients that that fuel for this fire isn't stopping.
It's only getting more powerful.
It's only becoming more readily available, and it's only becoming something that we can't avoid even more.
So the conditions that create these civil war-like aspects, they're not going away.
They're only becoming stronger.
tim pool
I'll throw it to the January 6th story we were just talking about.
When you've got an overtly politicized government body issuing subpoenas and going after with legal power and criminal charges against former members of the previous administration, I'm like, dude, it's wild.
You know, man, I've been talking about this for a long time, and I'm not saying I know for sure exactly what'll happen, but at a certain point, I really wanna swear, and I'm gonna do it, at a certain fucking point, man.
At a certain fucking point.
Okay, I said it twice, alright?
Just so you know, I'm serious.
It starts with me being like, hey, look, people are beating each other in the streets and this ideology is, you know, this divide is getting worse.
When you've got what happened with George Floyd protests, riots, several dozen dead, when you get January 6th, when you have a panel of establishment politicians using government power to file criminal charges against members of the previous administration for the love of God, This country is being ripped apart and it's at the highest
possible levels. You throw away everything else.
You throw away the January 6th. You throw away the riots.
You throw away...
Pretend like none of that ever happened. And you come out and you say that there is a panel, members of Congress,
who are issuing subpoenas against the previous executive branches administration and trying to put them in prison,
like Steve Bannon.
Now they're saying they want criminal charges against Mark Meadows.
They are literally trying to imprison the previous administration.
And it was these same people who claimed Trump was the bad guy for saying, lock her up!
In 2016.
And it was funny.
And he didn't do anything.
The dude didn't even fire Fauci.
But I will absolutely state Trump was definitely a part of this sundering in the United States.
But I'm gonna say it one more time.
We don't need to talk about Antifa.
We don't need to be talking about Proud Boys.
We can just talk about members of Congress who are filing subpoenas against members of the administration and members of the media.
You don't have to like Alex Jones.
He is a media personality.
And as much as people don't want to hear me say it, I'm going to say it.
Alex Jones runs a news organization.
Now, you can hate him.
myron gaines
Which is protected under the First Amendment.
tim pool
That's right.
And now they're coming after him.
They're filing suit against him.
And this is what Alex is arguing, that he's got a First Amendment right here to do what he does.
myron gaines
And he does.
tim pool
But look at what is happening, man.
They have lost the plot.
I mean, you look at the stuff they're talking about with Joe Manchin.
They're like, who's the real president?
Is it Joe Manchin or is it Joe Biden?
Manchin's a senator from West Virginia.
When was he going to be on your side?
No, they demand fealty.
Just because Joe Manchin is a Democrat, they demanded that he do whatever they want him to do.
And when he doesn't, man, they're going absolutely insane against him, claiming that Biden needs to slam the boot down.
I'll tell you this, man.
Every step of the way, we have seen dramatic escalations in what is leading to this country being ripped apart, and we are watching it right now.
And then when a CIA advisor professor lady comes out and she's like, yeah, it's happening.
It's Trump's fault, by the way, but it's happening.
I'll be like, it doesn't matter if she thinks it's Trump's fault.
What matters is she thinks it's happening because you've got a bunch of people who now think it's happening.
myron gaines
Here's the other crazy thing too.
You said earlier, you said a grand jury was convened simply to indict Trump?
tim pool
Oh yeah, that's right.
myron gaines
That's crazy, because... So here's the thing about grand juries.
Grand juries typically, like, they've been working together for, you know, weeks or months on end, and they've seen and heard a bunch of cases.
The fact that they're convening a grand jury solely for Donald Trump is crazy to me.
That's wild, because that's not normal.
That's out of protocol.
tim pool
But let's call that political and a bit hyperbolic, in a sense.
I'm sure they'll tell you.
Well, the scope of our investigation is fraud into the Trump administration or something like that.
But we got the story, man.
This has been news for the past couple months.
That high-profile, or I should say, that individuals working within the Trump administration, including journalists, have been subpoenaed to testify on a grand jury to indict Donald Trump.
And now it is being speculated he will be indicted.
And if he's indicted, he will not be able to run in 2024.
Wow.
TheNation.com, which is a leftist publication, said Donald Trump will not be running for president in 2024, something to that effect.
And the first paragraph is Donald Trump will be indicted for fraud, and this will prevent him from running.
myron gaines
The witch hunts is real.
tim pool
Fraud?
Let me ask you.
You have experience with grand juries?
Maybe a little bit?
myron gaines
Of course, yeah.
tim pool
How often do they?
myron gaines
That's why this is weird to me, because here's the thing.
The federal court system, everyone is in it.
So it would happen all the time.
I'd go in a grand jury, I'd present my case, right?
Some drug case, whatever it may be.
And then there'd be an FBI agent come after me, he'd go and do bank robbery, then there'd be a DA agent, he'd come in and do a drug case, then there'd be an ATF agent come in and do somebody for a felon in possession.
So we all would use the same grand jury, which is weird to me because that grand jury will hear hundreds of cases over the span of a few months.
That's how grand jury works at the federal system.
And then you come in, you testify, you tell the facts of your case, you're in there with your prosecutor, you step out, your prosecutor comes out, true bill, bang, and then you get your arrest warrant.
tim pool
This is state level, just to clarify.
myron gaines
Oh, it's state?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, New York state.
tim pool
Yes, New York state.
myron gaines
So I'll tell you this, that's very interesting.
So that tells me that the Feds probably didn't want it.
And it went to the state.
Because any AUSA would love to do a case like this.
Especially, where in New York exactly is this?
tim pool
Southern District of New York?
myron gaines
So it's probably New York City, so it falls under Southern District of New York, which is a very aggressive prosecutorial office.
It's actually one of the best in the country, the Southern District of New York.
So they've done all the big mafia cases, they do the big racketeering cases, etc.
So they do big, sexy cases like this, so I'm surprised that the feds didn't take it.
So that tells me they probably didn't want it, and the state said, you know what, we'll run with it.
tim pool
In your experience, I know feds are different from state, but what percentage of grand juries of cases are returned as indictments?
myron gaines
Almost.
tim pool
If you're going... Like 95%?
myron gaines
Yeah, because by the time... Here's how tight... The reason why the federal system doesn't lose is because by the time you take a case to an AUSA, and you present it, and you guys gather your evidence, and you actually have enough to indict, that prosecutor's ready for trial, guys, at the federal system.
They're ready for trial.
That's why the feds rarely lose, because prosecutors don't take cases unless they know they're going to win.
They don't want to go to trial.
They want to win.
So if they don't take it, this tells me right now, it probably tried to go federal.
They said, hell no, we're not going to win this thing.
And the states say, you know what, we'll take it.
tim pool
So I got to say, grand juries are not like full-on trials, you know, where it's difficult and it's non-adversarial.
This means that the state walks into a bunch of people and says, here's what they're going for.
They're claiming that Donald Trump inflated the value of his buildings to secure loans, which is fraud.
Something to that effect.
myron gaines
And I just want to clarify, with the state system, I don't know how often the grand jury convenes, but I know at the federal level, they typically go for a few weeks to a few months.
tim pool
My understanding is that grand juries almost always issue indictments because they're not looking for- Yeah, they always do.
myron gaines
Almost always.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Because they're looking for a preponderance of evidence.
So that means someone from the state's going to walk up to- No, probable cause.
Probable cause.
myron gaines
Because it's criminal.
tim pool
I thought a grand jury just needs a little bit more than probable cause.
myron gaines
No, no, no.
Probable cause.
tim pool
To return a criminal indictment?
myron gaines
Yes.
unidentified
Wow.
myron gaines
Probable cause.
So at the federal level, I mean, regardless, the United States, it's probable cause, right?
You need probable cause to affect an arrest, right?
But for an indictment or a criminal complaint, whatever charging document you want to use in information, it's always probable cause.
But the fact that the state didn't take it, I mean, sorry, the feds didn't take it, is alarming to me because normally they would do something like this.
So what probably happened is this.
The feds are rarely going to charge a charge that the state is also going to charge.
So for example, if the feds wanted to do a fraud case, they would de-conflict with the state and then one of them would take it.
So the fact that the feds don't have it and the state has it tells me, probably went to the state, they did a grand jury, convened, and then they presented the case to the grand jury.
The state system is a little bit different.
tim pool
I just confirmed it, you're right.
It's probable cause.
Trump's getting indicted.
walter weekes
That's crazy.
That is crazy.
This is a plan so that he can't run basically on purpose.
lydia smith
That's the point.
myron gaines
That could be it.
tim pool
There's no way I would ever believe it otherwise.
And there's so many people, I covered this last week, and I get these emails from salty
Democrats or whatever, anti-Trump people, and they're like, no, his crimes are finally
catching up to him.
And I'm like, oh, if the dude's been this active everywhere for this long, you think
they wouldn't have come after him for anything he was doing?
They're coming after him because Trump, I guess the argument is, he was obsessed with the net worth, the value of his properties, and so he inflated their value.
Okay, well, are you going to explain to the grand jury that property values are nebulous?
Like, if I were to ask you, like, your property values, how do you determine the property value?
myron gaines
An appraisal but that's always it changes with all the time and you can get a different appraiser and give you a different number for sure exactly so they're coming after trump basically because he was like you got a building worth 500 million and he goes you know probably worth 550 you know because we did improvements on it i'm gonna get a loan and they're like that's fraud it's like uh and it's commercial too so it has even more checks and balances so I would love you know what I want I would love if they actually do Follow through and he gets charged and everything else like that I would like to read either the indictment or the criminal complaint that was filed in support Well, it was more than likely an indictment because it can be in a grand jury So it's probably gonna be an indictment.
tim pool
It's not gonna be a criminal complaint So let me just ask everybody who's doubting the idea of a civil war.
Do you think if Donald Trump is indicted and can't run, that his supporters, that people on the right are going to be like... I'll say this.
myron gaines
It's because you mentioned some fantastic points earlier about all the things going on.
Let's add to that the fact that the, you know, inflation is here.
You know what?
40 to 50% of the U.S.
currency in circulation right now was printed in the last 18 months.
Let's talk about the financial side, too.
You know, fiat currency nowadays is literally dwindling.
Hyperinflation is gonna rear its ugly head anytime now.
tim pool
Bloomberg said, spend your paycheck as soon as you get it.
myron gaines
Yeah, like, it's crazy.
So you got the polarization between the two parties, right?
Between the Democrats and the Republicans.
You got this craziness that went down at Capitol Hill.
You got the FBI over here going after dudes for misdemeanors.
You know what I'm saying?
To try to send a message.
You got them trying to indict Trump by the state.
You know, clearly the feds didn't want to take it out of the most aggressive federal prosecutorial office in the country, by the way.
And I mean, yeah, this insane, I wouldn't be, she's not crazy. Is this woman from the CIA is not
tim pool
crazy. Cause there's a lot of things in play here. Yeah. Look in, in 2017, I was like, man, if this
kind of ideological, you know, conflict escalates, it's going to reach the highest levels
of government.
And people have repeatedly said, I was crazy. I was crazy.
I was crazy. I was crazy.
Now, most people, I think, who say that are typically on the left, because they just don't, they're like, nah, the establishment's the best.
It'll never happen, the security state.
Now look where we are.
Now look where we are.
luke rudkowski
You brought up a very important point, because financial problems do lead to conflict, whether external or internal.
You look at historically, a lot of economic upheaval was right before there was a major fight that happened.
So that's another aspect to kind of look at here.
This Barbara F. Walter, the CIA political scientist, also said that it's the erosion of democracy that brings us closer to civil war.
And she says that we're in between a democracy and an autocracy.
tim pool
Anocracy.
luke rudkowski
Anocracy is what she called it specifically.
tim pool
We are in an anocracy.
luke rudkowski
And she specifically talked about how there's a big separation within the military, how three former retired military generals are talking about how there's a major split in there, and how there could be a potential coup d'etat or civil war within the military that could make this into an actual Let's pull this up.
tim pool
We got the story from the Washington Post.
Three retired generals, the military must prepare now for a 2024 insurrection.
This is Paul D. Eaton, a retired U.S.
Army Major General and Senior Advisor to VoteVets.
Antonio M. Toguba, retired Army Major General with 34 years of active duty service.
Stephen M. Anderson is a retired Brigadier General who served in the U.S.
Army for 31 years.
Now I want to read a little bit what they say, but I want to point out, we had the Boston Globe reporting Uh, just before, uh, around the, around the election time, this past, this past, last year, that John Podesta said that he had, he, or he was advising the West Coast to secede from the Union if Donald Trump wins.
I think we may have just bought some time.
I think these next few years, I think a lot of people just didn't like Donald Trump, and they said, oh, okay.
unidentified
100%.
myron gaines
They were biased.
tim pool
What I mean is, Republicans aren't going to be the ones to succeed.
They're not the fervent ideologues that the left is.
The left goes and smashes and destroys and burns things down.
The moment you get one day of one bad riot, they act like the apocalypse is happening.
And that's what they're doing right now, right?
So what these generals are saying is like, oh no, I can't believe on January 6th, they say, January 6th, a disturbing number of veterans.
That's right.
And active duty members.
What they're basically saying is the military is split.
And what happens come 2024?
When election happens, it gets disputed again.
And then half the military says this side's right.
The other half says this side's right.
Yo, welcome to a civil war.
And I'll accentuate this.
Five states right now are refusing vaccine mandates and being told by the federalized, you know, the generals running the National Guard at the federal level or the, you know, the Biden administration, you have to do this or else.
And they're like, nope, National Guard state.
So we're watching this fracture already happen.
myron gaines
What about five states?
Do you know?
tim pool
So I know Texas, Oklahoma.
Let me pull it up.
Five states, National Guard.
walter weekes
That's crazy, though.
unidentified
Yeah.
walter weekes
Like it's going to be a standoff between those that are vaccinated and those that aren't.
myron gaines
Yeah.
I mean, there's so many things in play here, man.
We can even add in the fact that like the family unit in the United States in general is crumbling.
You know, divorce rates are at the highest they've ever been.
You know, there's more single people than ever before.
tim pool
It's five more states.
So it's Oklahoma.
So here we go.
We got Oklahoma, Wyoming, Iowa, Alaska, Nebraska, and Mississippi, and now Texas.
luke rudkowski
I was going to add to your point.
I don't think it's going to be the vaxxers versus the anti-vaxxers.
I think it's going to be the double vaxxers versus the quadruple, the jillion vaxxers
that the Civil War is going to be happening from my perspective.
tim pool
Yeah, there's going to be like Bill Maher, right?
Bill Maher got, he got the full dose.
At the time it was the full dose, now I guess it's not.
But he got two shots.
So it's going to be the Bill Maher people being like, we already got vaccinated, we're not doing it again.
And it's going to be the mega vaxxers who are on their like 18th shot,
because it's been a couple of years.
And they're going to be like, you're not up to date.
myron gaines
I mean, the whole issue with the vaccine, man, is that typically you need at least, what, a decade to perfect it?
You know, all these other vaccines that we have in place for all these other diseases, you know, they were worked on and formulated and perfected within a decade, you know, at bare minimum.
You got this thing in a year, which is why they got to keep punching it.
tim pool
Sure, sure.
I will counter by saying mRNA, the precursor, like the beginnings of it was in the 80s.
But not specifically for COVID.
Now, here's my big thing.
I don't know how to argue scientific research.
You know what I mean?
Like, none of us work in a lab.
None of us can tell you about vaccines.
myron gaines
I'm saying like all the other vaccines.
Most of the other vaccines were like, you know, perfected within a decade.
Whereas like on this one, we did it in a year.
tim pool
It's a different technology.
But it leads to a lot of people saying they want long-term data on it.
But I don't want to rehash that because I'm trying to, you know, we'll keep it focused on the military.
luke rudkowski
But the divide here is real because there are some people in the military saying, I will comply with Biden's mandates.
Some people saying they won't comply.
That's already one divide.
That doesn't even include the political divide, the social divide, the economical divide.
The religious divide?
I think they're just literally making concepts and ideas up about human beings to see how further they could divide people because at the end of the day, I do believe a lot of this kind of is divide and conquer.
I do believe a lot of this is centralized, but the National Guards in other states saying, hey, we're not going to go along with what you want us to do with our own bodies is big and a sign of this kind of civil conflict that we're seeing the CIA lady talk about.
walter weekes
I think there's an agenda being pushed here and the more they can divide us and see how we, you know, manage between ourselves and we destroy ourselves, the better for them because they want to conquer.
And overall, having a one power, one, I want to say one source, you say yes or no to, either you comply or it's goodbye.
tim pool
So who's doing it?
Who's trying to divide us?
Is it China?
walter weekes
Honestly?
luke rudkowski
Well, there's fourth-generational warfare.
There's fifth-generational warfare.
There's a lot of other multinational corporations.
And some people would argue it is China.
Some people would argue it's the multinational corporations that made China as prominent as they are, that sent the slave jobs there, that are connected to the true billionaire class, that's connected to the banking class.
So there's a lot of very powerful institutions, very powerful people.
But then you get into the realms of speculation.
I don't want to get into speculating here.
Because we could go on days and talk about what we personally believe.
But I think it is clear that we are being divided.
More than we ever have been.
And it's turning in a nasty, nasty way that we have to try to stop at all costs.
But it's not stopping.
myron gaines
It's only accelerating.
We're talking about the Civil War.
A war with China is extremely probable.
You know what I mean?
You know what I'm saying?
They're buying at the bit right now to go after Taiwan.
They go after Taiwan.
Well, Taiwan, for a lot of you guys that know, I'm sure you know this, they make a bunch of our chips that are used for technology.
And if China was to take over Taiwan, that would put us in a very difficult position where we would probably have to come in and act and defend and help Taiwan.
And it's like, you know, and that would put us in a pretty bad spot because you don't want to go to war with China.
They're our biggest traitor.
tim pool
And already they're talking about building a chip plant in Texas, I believe.
Yes, because we know what's coming.
myron gaines
Yeah, it's coming.
They're gonna invade Taiwan, there's no doubt about it.
They've been waiting for years to do it.
tim pool
Here's the issue I take with, like, this, you know, they're trying to divide us.
I'm just, like, trying to figure out who is they.
Because when you've got the military split, when you've got 30,000 active-duty military saying no to the Vax mandates, when seven states are saying they will not abide by this for the National Guard, and I'm like, is it the establishment?
Is it the Democrats, the Uniparty, and now there's like a populist wave that's rejecting this?
Because if that's the case, then the division is natural.
It's populist versus elitist.
Or is there a larger international group, like Luke mentions, like multinational corporations, who are pitting populists and helping fund these campaigns to create division in the U.S.?
Or is it actually just that there is a psychotic cult ideology growing in this country that manifests itself in violence and ignorance And then there are regular people who are trying to make, you know, trying to live, trying to get by.
And when you try, you know, and I'll accept some of the criticism in this regard because it's frustrating to me.
When I try over and over again to reach an olive branch out to these people, and what do we get?
We got what happened here last week.
Anger, rage, on both sides to be fair.
But if I'm like, okay, I'll give you that point, I'll give you that point, I'll give you that point.
Will you agree with me on this?
And they say no, and they say screw you, and they threaten more violence.
At a certain point, You know, look, this show is not the Trump, MAGA hat, Q, anything like that.
This is a show where I'm talking to a dude who's very lefty, very woke, and I'm like, I agree with you on systemic racism, I agree with you on those issues, do you agree with me on individual rights?
And they say, no.
If I keep giving olive branches out and they keep taking and taking and taking, so I don't know if there is like an elite group trying to do this on purpose, or this is what happens when you get a cult ideology that is fervent, angry, and ignorant, and you get people who are, I guess, opposed to that and unwilling to compromise with it.
myron gaines
Independent thinking is not respected anymore.
Independent thinking is no longer respected.
It's like you can't have an opinion on something.
It's like, oh, you think Trump did a good job?
Oh, Well, you're a bigot.
You know what I'm saying?
They're immediately going to subscribe you to that, and just because of their personal feelings.
Where it's like, hey, you did a terrible job as a person.
tim pool
Let me ask you real quick.
walter weekes
People talk about it all the time.
It might be Illuminati.
It might be the Bilderberg Group.
Who knows what it is, right?
I'm just saying, out of chaos comes order.
So look at the Trojan horse, right?
It came from the inside out.
I'm just saying, like, in terms of what we're going on in the future, like, let's be real here.
We're not getting any better.
We're not coming together as one.
We're dividing between each other.
The race, you know, religion, all this stuff.
Why is this happening?
There's somebody out there pushing an agenda.
I don't know who it is, but it's causing divide.
unidentified
And once that happens, at some point... Just really quickly, Tim, you laid out three hypotheses, right?
luke rudkowski
All of them could be true at the same time.
So we have to also entertain those larger ideas and spectrum of understanding here because it could be a natural divide that some people are playing off that of course also benefits China as well so all three parameters could be at play here and we could be trying to figure out we shouldn't try to pinpoint exactly you know So like this is exactly how it is because it's almost impossible to figure out.
There's a lot of disinformation.
There's a lot of fake information that's being deliberately released out there to confuse people, to make people go crazy going down the rabbit hole.
We don't have to go down the rabbit hole.
We see the problems.
We have to do everything we can to prevent them because these problems are getting real.
They're getting dangerous and they're going to have significant ramifications for everyone's life very soon if they already don't.
tim pool
Here's the challenge.
Because Luke, you sound a lot like Ian.
How so?
So, you know, Ian, he's on holiday.
Shout out, Ian.
He likes to say, you know, we got to bring people together, man.
We can't allow this division.
And I'm like, that's right.
That proud boy wearing the MAGA hat needs to throw down that shield.
Run up to the Antifa guy, the Antifa guy needs to take his mask off, pull down the hoodie, they should run to each other and embrace in a nice arm lock and say, we're in this together!
And that'll happen, right?
Is that gonna happen?
myron gaines
Sounds good.
tim pool
It's never gonna happen.
luke rudkowski
Unless it's in a Pepsi commercial.
tim pool
Unless it's a Pepsi commercial.
So this is what I'm saying.
We can invite these people on the show, they won't do it.
I sent Hasan Piker a message.
I was like, hey man, would you like to come on the show?
We'd love to have you.
You know, we'll pay for everything.
Just no response.
Dude doesn't owe me a thing, okay?
He doesn't have to come on the show.
But if we can't get people to come on the show to talk about these things, then how do you actually even work towards mending that divide?
And worse still, when we invite someone on the show who is very much Into wokeness, and as he described it, the black struggle.
And I tell him, I agree with you on all of these points, and then he still calls me names, he still insults me, he still laughs at me and calls me a liar and all that stuff.
You know, at a certain point, I'm watching these high profile individuals keep trying to compromise, and it doesn't work.
We are dealing with zealotry.
Whatever this side is, you know, for us, freedom, independence, liberty, you've got many conservatives involved.
There is a live and let live classical liberalism in there and somewhat traditional liberalism.
And then in the cult, you have a shut up and do as you're told or else.
I don't know.
What anyone can do at this point, and I'm sorry if it sounds pessimistic, to convince the MAGA hat wearing Trump supporter with the American flag to go up to Antifa and shake their hand and say, let's make this country a better place.
Because if even if that were to happen, the next step is Antifa saying, okay, let's tear down the American institution.
Let's burn the constitution.
Let's get rid of our court system.
And the Trump supporter guy is going to be like, but those are good things.
walter weekes
Yeah, just to add to your point, Tim, I don't believe there's a way we can, ourselves, can come together as one.
However, maybe through fear or through like a tragic event, it might bring us together.
I don't know what it's going to be, but us as like, you know, either Trump supporters or like, you know, Antifa, us, we're not going to do it by ourselves.
It has to be an outside cause to make us come together, but I don't know what it's going to be.
myron gaines
I'll say this, simply put.
There's a lot of, we address a lot of like problems right now in the West in general, in the United States in particular.
You know, we got the issue with money, right?
40%, 40-50% of the U.S.
currency in circulation was printed in the past 18 months, right?
So we got a financial problem.
Now we have also a family problem.
You know, we have the nuclear family has almost been destroyed in the United States.
You know, how many kids come from, you know, two-parent households with both parents that were their biological parents?
luke rudkowski
18% now?
Rare, yeah.
tim pool
Extremely rare.
luke rudkowski
Some of the latest numbers I saw.
myron gaines
Extremely rare, right?
Which we know that nuclear families are the backbone of a strong economy.
So you have that, right?
Divorce rates are through the roof.
You got masculinity in general, which is like getting thrown to the wayside.
Hey, let's, you know, think with our feelings and let's operate off feelings and not logic and ration and, you know, toxic masculinity and all this other BS.
And then, you know, you got the polarization between the two.
You know political parties there's and then on top of that you got the looming issues with China and Russia, right?
You got the Russian probe which also divided the country.
That was another example of a Trojan horse Yeah, and then you got the looming issues with China with Taiwan and it's just there's so many problems here that it's like just like ah, man I think the biggest one is the mass hypnosis, the kind of brainwashing that happens to the average American out there, whether it's on social media or through the corporate media.
luke rudkowski
They get a different bastardized reality than, of course, other people do.
They get put in echo chambers.
They get radicalized.
And I think, you know, the answer is not easy, but it doesn't mean we should stop doing what we're doing.
I think we are having an effect.
I think we should always try to strive to do the best we can to help open people's visions.
We might not always do it, but we should also understand we're playing for the middle person.
We're not playing for Antifa.
We're not playing someone who's totally radicalized and totally insane and crazy.
We're playing for the person The average person, the majority of people who are sitting back and watching what's going on.
Because those people are the ones historically that do make the big decisions, that do create the situations, that do change societies.
It's the people in the middle who don't want to get involved that actually end up doing the most.
And that's why we got to play to them.
That's why we got to be fair.
And then I think we shouldn't break the rules like they break the rules.
tim pool
From my perspective.
Lowest birth rates right now.
You know, all the points you brought up are hitting the nail on the head with the hammer.
I mean, kids not being born to parent homes.
The economy is based on children.
myron gaines
Yes. And like lowest birth rates right now.
Yeah. And China has is the opposite.
They have a strong family unit.
They they you know.
They take pride in masculinity.
They don't allow porn into their country.
Or rap music.
Or degenerate type social media stuff.
They take proactive steps to protect their society from degeneracy.
tim pool
Which side of the political conflict, and there are sides, let's be real, within it there's a bunch of different factions.
Libertarians and conservatives are very different, a lot of opinions.
Which side is pro-family and which side is opposed to the nuclear family?
luke rudkowski
It's pretty clear.
tim pool
It's pretty clear.
It's very obvious.
myron gaines
It's very clear.
tim pool
Like, even me, I'm a childless 35-year-old, I'm in a relationship, but no kids, can recognize the importance of having kids, and I can understand why conservatives looking at data are correct.
Then you get Black Lives Matter.
They say they want to disrupt the nuclear family.
Then you get the left, which is very much tearing down cultural and traditional roles.
And it's like, I'll be the first to say a lot of traditions are dumb and bad, and we should do away with them, and some of them are good, and we should keep them.
You don't just, you know, burn everything to the ground.
But it's very clearly left and right.
And that being said, to address what you're saying, Luke, Luke, there's no middle ground.
There's none.
Look at this.
Look at this on the screen.
luke rudkowski
I'm not saying there's middle ground.
I'm saying there's people in the middle who don't want to get involved that are watching, and those are the people we should play to.
tim pool
I'm not saying... So, let's clarify that.
Almost nobody is in whatever can be perceived to be as a middle.
What we have right here is Joe Biden's job approval, according to Civics, with 141,000 responses.
What you're seeing is party affiliation independent.
26% approval.
If we go to Republican, obviously it's going to be in the gutter.
With 2% approval, 96% disapproval.
And if you go to Democrat, it's 76% approval.
But what does this show?
It shows that Democrats overwhelmingly still approve of Biden.
They're losing a lot of support, disapproval is going up.
But independents lean heavily towards where Republicans are.
When you look at Pew's data on the political tribes, the group called the stressed sideliners, these are people who are not political, lean right politically.
And the reason is, We like watching offensive comedy.
We like watching comedians and making jokes.
We don't want to live under a boot.
We like family.
We like Christmas.
We like the holidays.
myron gaines
And we like having our money and not have it taken by taxes.
tim pool
I mean, that's true too.
You know, everyone, what did they say?
Everyone's a conservative until they're, I'm sorry.
Everyone's liberal until their first paycheck.
myron gaines
Exactly.
tim pool
So my point is.
There's obviously still some undecideds, the stressed sideliners or whatever, but even they lean right.
And so the issue is, if we are a show where we don't say Kyle Rittenhouse is a hero, we defend him, acting in self-defense, but we've not, you know, like, that's a big, you know, conservative, right-wing, Trump supporter, a lot of those people outright say it.
They say it in the chat.
I respect their right to say it.
I understand why they say it.
For me, I'm like, It's a difficult situation of political conflict, and there's, you know, it's a complicated situation, but Kyle Rittenhouse was certainly acting in self-defense and in the right.
myron gaines
100%.
But anyone else that doesn't, like, it's the most clear-cut self-defense case I've ever seen in my life.
tim pool
But so here's my point, right?
If you're talking about the regular people, then I can tell you a regular person's gonna look at that and be like, self-defense.
How do we know?
Because the jury was a group of regular people who said, they're not guilty across the board.
But exclusively, like the entirety of the left, from leftists to the establishment, save Destiny, the streamer, they were all saying it was murder.
They were lying about what he did.
And so my point is, regular people are lying.
That's right.
myron gaines
You know what I'm saying?
It just goes to show the gross lack of knowledge and awareness of people when they look at big cases like this.
They don't look at the facts.
They look at what someone put on Twitter or what someone thinks.
walter weekes
Feelings and emotions.
myron gaines
Feelings and emotions.
They don't look at the facts and it's ridiculous.
tim pool
But that's the quote-unquote left.
And I'm saying the left because it includes leftists and it includes the establishment Democrats.
But libertarians, independents, moderates, republicans, traditional conservatives, religious conservatives, all knew the truth.
They all knew the truth.
Now there's, of course, there's always gonna be people on the right who are believing dumb, crazy, conspiracy things too.
My point is, the left is clearly in some kind of matrix.
Their moral framework is, or I should say lack thereof, they have none.
They don't believe in the innocent until proven guilty.
They fire people from jobs on accusations.
They want people imprisoned on accusations.
They burn buildings down when they don't get their way when it comes to this kind of stuff.
Libertarians, moderates, independents, centrists, right-wingers, conservatives, they don't do any of that stuff.
So when we come out here and we go on the show and we say something like, Kyle Rittenhouse acted in self-defense.
Jury said so.
Evidence shows it.
Seven witnesses said it.
Then we're not going to convince anyone on the left ever that we are right.
They're just going to say, you're racist.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
So my main point is, When it, you know, bringing it back to the issue of family and everything, I think the divide is so extreme in this country.
We call it a political divide, we call it polarization.
I think that's wrong.
I think it is a Grand Canyon.
There's, I do not believe there's going to be a way.
Like, even that guy Hawk Newsome, the Black Lives Matter guy in New York, who went to a Trump rally and they cheered for him and he said, I want, you know, to make life better and everyone's like, we do, we do.
Then he starts expressing his opinions on what will make life better, and all of a sudden you're like, bro, if you're saying you want to burn the Constitution, yeah, that's not gonna happen, right?
I'm never gonna shake someone's hand in that capacity.
I don't think there's a way you get Antifa, Black Lives Matter, and then, you know, even regular Americans who like Christmas and family to shake hands and agree on how to move forward.
luke rudkowski
I think family could be the solution, though.
A lot of powerful people, when they want to enact change, if they do it intelligently, they have a process of doing it.
They do it very slowly.
tim pool
Generation.
luke rudkowski
Two steps forward, one step back.
If you look at a lot of these crazy leftists, they believe in the need not to have children in benefit of the environment.
You look a lot of them they're incapable of reproducing ... because of their loan low testosterone efforts they're ... incapable of producing because of choices they made ... with their bodies that have negatively impacted them ... whether abortions or others so so a lot of people on the left ... can't and won't be having babies a lot of people on the right.
Will a lot of people who do believe in family values will so there there might be an aspect of saying if we all have families we could teach them morals and principles and virtues that actually matter and transcend a lot of the hypocrisy craziness and nonsense when it comes to this larger depopulation agenda that the left is predominantly affected by and hurt by.
myron gaines
And I'll say this too, the family is the backbone of a strong economy.
You know what I'm saying?
You need two parents, you know?
And there's an overwhelming amount of evidence that shows that, you know, children that come from single-parent households have a higher likelihood of being degenerates, drug addicts, criminals, etc.
And you need that father in place, you know, to let you know that there are consequences to your actions and punish that bad behavior.
And then you need a mother there to, you know, instill nurturing values, take care of you in your childhood, etc.
And then as you become older and you hit adolescence, that's when your father comes in and becomes an imperative part of your development.
And we live in a society now that says, we don't need men.
Men are useless.
Men are trash.
Toxic masculinity.
Blah, blah, blah.
And what do we have?
We have a bunch of degenerates, a bunch of spineless men, you know.
We have degenerate women that are running around doing stupid things.
luke rudkowski
And rewards, fatherless homes.
myron gaines
Exactly.
luke rudkowski
With financial incentives.
tim pool
That's obviously a big cultural component.
Economically, though, let's make it very, very simple.
The economy is driven by a need to support and sustain kids.
myron gaines
Yes.
tim pool
Like, a lot of money goes into My kid needs this, my kid needs that, my kid wants this, my kid wants that, raising kids.
When you get older, you're gonna, this is why they're saying you're gonna own nothing and you're gonna be happy.
Because without a kid, what do you need to strive for?
myron gaines
NFTs?
tim pool
The forced leather boots of agility in Warcraft?
myron gaines
We're put on earth to procreate.
That's why we are here.
We are here to have offspring.
So, you know, a huge human part of your fulfillment is not met if you don't have children.
And, you know, it's great that, you know, on the right they tend to swing more towards its family values, etc. And that's what's needed. The
United States was built on the backs of the nuclear family. You know, in the 20s, the 50s,
all the economic booms occurred from a man going to work, providing for his family. You
know, obviously times have changed.
You know, you need a two-parent household, whatever, to make an income. But the point
is that a two-parent household with a family is the backbone of the United States and how
walter weekes
In my humble opinion, there's another divide as well between the rich and the poor.
There's no more middle class.
It's pretty much going away.
And at this point, that was a nuclear family, the middle class.
But guess what?
Taxes are going up.
Prices are going up.
Inflation.
And there's either rich or poor.
This is going to cause even more divide because now it's either the have-nots or the haves.
That's my opinion.
myron gaines
Yeah, definitely.
It's definitely huge polarization.
unidentified
I agree.
tim pool
I think the if you look at where the left has gone.
Right.
So the left of my youth is is mostly considered right wing now.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
You know, that's true.
unidentified
Like 10, 15 years ago, like, you know, I mean, just look at Bernie Sanders.
tim pool
He's far left.
Look at his opinions from 2008, and you'd be like, wow, that's a Trump supporter.
Like, across the board.
You know, we gotta bring our factories back and close the borders.
And it's like, oh, okay, Trump.
But you look at where the left is today, and they've overwhelmingly become... It's almost the epitome of the seven deadly sins.
Personified.
Like, name one of the vices and they've got it.
You know, I mean, envy, right?
Angry, they're wrath-filled, they're prideful, they're lustful, they're greedy.
And don't get me wrong, the right has this too.
But my point is, I'm thinking about these comments on Twitter, I'm thinking about these articles that have been written by many left-wing activists where they're like, Who cares about where this country goes?
I mean, that's the core message of a lot of what they're saying.
Who cares what happens in this country?
Who cares what happens to humanity?
myron gaines
It's blind.
Because one thing, especially when it comes to the criminal justice system, we got crazy quotes running around here like, believe all women.
Last time I checked, you know, men and women fought for equality.
Equality means you are the same.
Therefore, you are capable of lying just like a man.
And last time I checked, we live in a country where it's, you know, guilty, right?
It's innocent until proven guilty.
Not guilty until proven innocent.
But if you're gonna run around and say, believe all women, That's ridiculous.
You know what I'm saying?
We had Brett Kavanaugh a couple years ago testifying, right?
Under oath, in front of everyone, on some accusations that were not from 40 years ago that no one had proof of.
And, no, he did this to me.
tim pool
That her friends even denied it?
myron gaines
Yeah, that her friends denied it.
No witnesses, no nothing.
But we got a guy that's going to be a Supreme Court justice.
Basically in a clown world, a clown circus, where he has to testify for his own innocence.
Why?
Because he's going to be a Supreme Court justice?
I get it.
He needs to be held to the highest standard of law.
But at the same time, it's like, yo, come with some facts before you're going to go ahead and make a crazy accusation.
tim pool
I'll put it this way.
You know, a lot of people, a lot of people like to say, you know, it's unfair.
You're taking the worst examples of the left and the left does it to the right.
And I'm like, okay, well, hold on a second.
When we talk about like Eric Swalwell, right?
He tweeted, we should ban people from flying.
I'm not going to pretend that every Democrat wants that, but probably a lot of them don't agree with that.
I'm not going to pretend that every everyone on the left is a socialist or, and they're liberal gun owners.
They exist too.
But I will tell you that what is true overwhelmingly, not absolutely, is that they believe in a fictitious reality.
And then they believe in that fictitious reality that everyone on the right are truly the ones who live in the fictitious reality.
But the truth is, Russiagate was a lie.
Jussie Smollett was a lie.
The Covington Kids was a lie.
The Kyle Rittenhouse story was a lie.
Every day, they are putting out lies.
And I think what actually divides us is, are you in the Matrix, or are you outside of it?
myron gaines
The Rittenhouse case was terrible.
If you watch that trial, It's clear cut, you know what I'm saying?
They were trying to mess this kid up, man.
And everyone's running around, oh no, well he killed black people.
No, he didn't.
The people he killed were Caucasian.
You know what I'm saying?
But it's like, they're just trying to do and say anything to get a reaction.
They don't even look at the facts.
They go off what their friend says on Twitter, what possible allegations are.
And it's crazy, because this country was founded upon due process, man.
And you literally have a guy that got acquitted With.
Beyond, like, clearest cut case of self-defense I've ever seen.
If that was tough, I am scared of the future.
To get a guy like that that was clearly innocent.
tim pool
You look at what happens when we bring on, you know, someone like this, and they say, here's the fascinating thing, and I'll just say it outright with R.A.
the Rugged Man when he came on, and again, you know, look, as far as anything goes with the shenanigans and the yelling at each other, like me yelling and him hitting the mic, I'm over that, but what I do think is important is, You know, here's a guy who told us we were supporting the cops, we were bootlicking over the Ahmed Arbery case and the Derek Chauvin case, when he was literally defending the state in its entirety.
Our issue was, what we said is, these specific individuals have rights that are in question.
And he was like, if you defend a single police officer, you're a bootlicker.
And it's like, but you're supporting literal state prosecution in the prison system.
Which I'm not a fan of.
I'm not a fan of any of that.
I'm a fan of individual rights.
Ultimately, I'm not trying to drag him specifically, but it's a fresh conversation, and it's a good example.
These are people who are like, you're the bootlicker, I'm in favor of state prosecution.
And I'm like, why are you cheering for the prosecutors?
Why are you literally cheering for more people to go and to be incarcerated?
I thought the left were the ones that said the system is broken, it needs to be abolished.
But then as soon as they have power on their side, they just use it to its fullest extent and say, don't question me.
myron gaines
Yeah, my thing is, you gotta be on no one's side.
You gotta look at it like, okay, what are the facts, and what does the law say?
Simple as that, man.
tim pool
You'll find you're gonna be in the cultural right if that's the case.
myron gaines
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Because like I said, Russiagate, Ukrainegate, Covington Kids, Trump throwing fish into the Covey Pond.
All of these stories, every day, just lie after lie after lie, over and over and over again.
At a certain point, it's like, if you are like, I'm not going to be on anyone's side, I'm going to look objectively at the facts.
You know what's going to happen?
Jack Posobiec is going to be like, you're correct, sir, I disagree with you, but you're right.
And someone on the left is going to be like, you're a conspiracy theorist.
myron gaines
Of course.
tim pool
And you're going to be like, but I just read this report from New York Times.
New York Times reported a Ukrainian court said that Ukrainians were interfering in the U.S.
election.
The New York Times published that.
Nope, sorry, that's a conspiracy theory if you're on the left, because you got to be in the Matrix.
You got to follow the narrative.
luke rudkowski
I was just going to say, you started to sound like a white supremacist there for a little bit.
myron gaines
I got my hood in the back somewhere.
I'm going to put it on after the show.
tim pool
So I want to pull up this story right here.
This is from CNN.
Biden admin eyes a potentially stark shift in messaging around ending the pandemic.
So tomorrow we're supposed to get a statement from Joe Biden about what they're going to do.
But his message was clear, they say.
Quote, for the unvaccinated, we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death for the unvaccinated.
He said it twice, I guess.
For themselves, their families, and the hospitals, they will soon overwhelm.
But there's good news.
If you're vaccinated and you have your booster shot, you're protected from severe illness and death.
Now, I don't want to play any silly games dragging Joe Biden.
This is not his administration.
Well, I guess they say, you know, this is Biden's, you know, address to the American people.
Saying that, many people were like, yo, it's just before Christmas and you're going to be like, you're going to face death and illness and everything.
But people on the left are going to be like, he's just warning people as he should.
So I'm not going to play games and be like, aha, we don't like Biden, so we criticize every single thing he says.
I will tell you, you will not convince anyone that, you know, when Biden said, if you're vaccinated and you have your booster shot, you're protected from severe illness and death.
I'm going to make two very important points.
I'm not a scientist.
I can't tell you, I'll make three actually.
I can't tell you anything about the research being done on this stuff.
I got no idea.
You make sure you talk to a doctor you know and trust, get a second opinion.
I can tell you that I was interacting with someone on Twitter who said, just got my third shot.
And then I said, are you going to get your booster?
And this guy responds, I just said I got my third shot.
I said, no, no, no, I meant the fourth shot.
But I'm not trying to be a dick, like literally several leftist publications have already said a full vaccine dose is three shots.
And he said, it's a stupid conversation because every year we get a flu shot and no one asks you if it's your 18th.
My response to that is the flu shots, as I understand it, are different.
Meaning every year they say, here's the dominant strain.
Here's the vaccine for this strain and a few others.
It might not stop these other strains.
The COVID vaccine is one vaccine developed specifically for the alpha strain.
And now we're looking for data on whether or not it will stop Omicron, as Joe Biden likes to call it, or any other variant.
And if that's the case, Joe Biden is not doing anything by saying this when you have this story.
Elizabeth Warren, vaccinated and boosted, tests positive for COVID.
Cory Booker, positive for coronavirus.
Both Elizabeth Warren and Cory Booker are vaccinated and boosted.
And then we have Jim Cramer of CNBC, who said that the military should forcefully vaccinate people, and he posted a positive test.
Now, I'm not going to tell you what or why that is.
I'll tell you my theory on exactly what this is.
I believe it is infinitely more likely Infinitely likely, or I should say, just put it simply, I believe all these people lied about getting vaccinated.
I mean it.
Like look, there's a photo of Elizabeth Warren and they're putting a needle in her arm.
I think you've got two potentials.
The vaccine isn't working on the variants.
The efficacy has waned to the point where COVID cases in New York are breaking records.
Or, these specific politicians and high-profile individuals who go on TV and virtue-signal about the vaccine never got it.
walter weekes
Someone's lying here.
myron gaines
Yeah.
walter weekes
And it's funny because... It's a lose-lose either way.
Yeah, just after this point as well, like, okay, what's the goal here?
Because is it control?
Is it to, like, say, okay, you know what, do what they say or not?
And if that's the case, then when does it stop?
Because this is just, this is mild.
It's like, okay, vaccine or you might die.
Or, Maybe it could be like, OK, if we're in power, you don't do what I say, you'll die regardless.
So just like to me, it's more like control.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, there's a lot of things going on right now that are totally breaking the official narrative of what's going on here.
And that White House memo was released by their chief of staff, not by Joe Biden.
But I mean, it sounded more threatening than warning.
But their response to everything happening is get ... boosted media get boosted as they're running sensationalistic ... fear-mongering articles but of course as you mentioned to ... Cory Booker Hunter Walker Elizabeth Warren the governor ... of Maryland Jim Cramer most CNN and BuzzFeed employees all ... triple-vaxxed with boosters all of them recently came down ... with this new covid-19 sickness like what's.
tim pool
I'm not a scientist.
luke rudkowski
and shut their offices down. There's a and CNN fired employees who are unvaccinated. So
all of the employees at CNN were vaccinated. No, no, no, no, hold on, hold on, boosted.
tim pool
Well, hold on. Okay. I'm not a scientist. I can't say vaccines work or don't work. Clearly.
The only thing that makes sense, if that's true, is that every single one of these high profile
Democrats, celebrities, and every employee at CNN faked getting the vaccine.
myron gaines
I'll say this real quick.
I'll just say this and then the people can think what they want.
The vaccine, I remember, rolled out right around about a year ago, right?
The first time.
They're like, listen, just take this shot, you'll be good.
And the next thing you know, we're here a year later, now we're up to three shots.
And the people that take the shots, allegedly, are still getting the virus, still passing the virus.
Basically doing all the things that the vaccine was developed to keep you from doing.
And it's crazy.
It's like, how many more vaccines are they going to make?
tim pool
How many more do you have to take?
I think there's actually maybe a very, very simple explanation.
COVID?
Well, yeah, I am being a bit facetious when I say obviously.
One of those two.
No, but I think COVID's become endemic.
It's going to be a yearly thing, which has been stated by many, many people.
And the alpha vaccine that they got under EUA is slowly becoming not the appropriate vaccine for whatever is emerging now because the virus spreads.
I think the issue is if the CDC comes out and just finally says COVID has become endemic, it's never going away, then the establishment loses their power.
All of a sudden people are going to be like, I guess I got to live my life then.
But if they maintain that we're in a pandemic, it'll never go away.
Then they will keep being able to force people.
They will control people.
And I got to say, I really don't think that the goal of the vaccine mandates is vaccines.
I think it's social credit systems.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, you're absolutely right.
And from a logical point of view, from a medical point of view, if you really wanted to help people now, you would be dealing with early treatment.
You would be dealing with accepting the risk here, helping the vulnerable.
But what's happening is they're still on this crazy, insane journey to prevent people from getting sick.
How?
Why are you doing this when clearly you have failed?
And the more you do, the more people get infected and hurt here.
So from a logical point of view, this doesn't add up to helping anybody.
tim pool
Let me clarify though.
I don't know if it's more people are getting it, but certainly people are still getting it.
luke rudkowski
The numbers have went up, especially under the Biden administration as far as cases and deaths.
Here's what I mean.
myron gaines
I just don't want us to get to the point of Australia and New Zealand.
They can't even leave, you know, a mile and a half, two miles of their place.
Their ability to get food is controlled.
tim pool
You know what I'm saying?
myron gaines
It's crazy.
tim pool
Let me tell you.
I'll spin you a little tale.
So I posted, hey, look, you know, Australia built these quarantine camps.
Then I said, what's going to happen is there's going to be a protest.
They're going to claim it was a super spreader event.
They got to put these people in quarantine.
I got called a conspiracy theorist for that.
Then they started taking people and putting them in these quarantine camps.
At first I said it was an international arrival bungalow.
Now it's the police come to your house and without due process take you to the camps.
Here's the best part.
I was talking about the Native American, I'm sorry, the Indigenous in Australia, the Native Australians.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
And I said, the minister of the Northern Territory said, you no longer have the five reasons to leave your home.
That means you can only leave your home now for emergency medical treatment.
And I said, that quite literally means you can't leave your house to go and get food.
unidentified
Yeah. Yep.
tim pool
And then what happens is they pull up and say, come with us, we're taking you to the camp.
And then these people try escaping.
Three teenagers escaped.
What happens?
The latest response from Quillette, this psychotic publication that claims to be about freedom,
was that Tim Pool lied because while they can't leave their homes to get food, they're not being deprived.
The government is delivering morning meals to them.
And I'm like, I said, you can't leave your house even to get food.
unidentified
That is correct.
tim pool
And they're like, but he's implying people are starving.
I don't care if the government fires food out of a cannon through your window
I don't care if they bring you a filet mignon with grilled asparagus and all of the
Accompaniments. Yeah, if you can't leave your house to choose to get food on your own. We have certainly crossed
that threshold exactly That's where we're going
luke rudkowski
Absolutely, and the Netherlands has locked down for for another month right now and and Germany's talking about
making Vaccines mandatory for everyone forcing them on everyone.
This is the German Health Minister That's an immediate forced vaccinations for the entire
population. This is absolutely crazy So before right before we get into all that
Related to the CNN article about them closing their offices and working from home. I saw one of the best memes
I have ever seen in my life in relate related to this story and
And it's the guy with the yellow jacket clasping his hands behind the tree.
And it says, lubin tubin, when he finds out that he gets to work from home at CNN.
And I have to say, the creativity on the internet is absolutely amazing.
Dirty jokes, Luke.
It's not dirty.
I mean, he really likes working from home.
walter weekes
I just want to add to that point as well.
This might sound a little bit base, but it was never about helping people become better.
It's about control.
And if you think about it, right, when does it end?
It probably never will end.
However, look what's happening now.
Control is happening.
Like you mentioned, Australia, other countries.
New Zealand, yep.
At some point, What's the goal here?
And if you think about this long term, like this affecting how we buy food, how we use money, how we travel, talk to each other, how we date, how we interact with people, it's like a heavy place in control.
Now once this happens, what's the end goal?
My thing is, how do we stop it?
We can't.
So what can we do?
Create our own communities and maybe thrive that way.
luke rudkowski
I disagree with you.
I mean, the governor of Florida came out and released a very strong statement today saying, we will not let anybody lock you down, take your jobs, ruin your business, or close your schools.
I don't care what Biden says.
We're not going to be following his mandates, his decrees, which he's going to be announcing in a few hours from now, which is supposed to be new restrictions on the American people.
So people of Florida don't have to go through a lot of the bullcrap.
walter weekes
See, we live in Florida, right?
My question is, how long?
And the funny part is that, yes, he's doing all right now, but pressure and, you know, every other state doing it, eventually, you can only hold up for so long.
myron gaines
And Miami-Dade was the last to open up.
unidentified
Well, Florida never kind of, I mean... Yeah, we never really closed down.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, we never really closed down.
myron gaines
But Miami-Dade did close.
Like, we definitely, we closed, and like, Miami-Dade was the last county to open back up.
Now, obviously, the rest of Florida, you know, has their head on straight, but Miami-Dade in general, like, we opened up recently.
We just opened up a few months ago, you know, fully.
So, yeah, I mean, it is what it is.
But, no, Florida definitely is, it's a good state to be right now compared to other places.
Hell, us coming to here, you know, to the DC airport, and I'm just seeing, like, you know, people running around in masks.
Everyone's like, oh, wow, I haven't seen this in a few months.
tim pool
Let's talk about what's happening in New York City.
We got this story from TimCast.com.
New York proposes ending religious exemptions, inoculations without parental consent, and forced removal of disease cases, contacts, and carriers.
Changes to the state's public health laws could mean more vaccine requirements and new authority for the governor.
Here's what I love about this story.
This right up here at TimCast.com is all 100% factual and correct.
But it also brings up a very important assembly bill from New York, and that's Bill A416.
TimCast writes, New York's legislature will also consider Assembly Bill A416, which resembles the Australian quarantine camps that caught global attention earlier this month.
Assemblyman N. Nick Perry of Brooklyn's 58th District proposed the removal and detention of anyone with a communicable disease that warrants the New York governor to declare a state of health emergency due to an epidemic.
The funny thing is, a bunch of fact-checkers claimed that when this story emerged in January, it was fake news, and they said the reason was, the bill is from 2015!
They're not planning, here's what they do.
They say, is there a law currently about to be passed that would allow COVID patients to be indefinitely detained?
False.
There is a bill that would allow COVID patients to be indefinitely detained, but it's for Ebola.
And it's never made it out of committee anyway, so it's fake news.
Even though it's true, there literally is a bill, Assembly Bill A416.
Since 2015 when it was introduced, it's gone to committee and then flopped.
It's got no sponsors and doesn't go anywhere, but someone's certainly trying to make it happen.
It would give the governor the ability to just rendition you.
To take you and put you wherever they deem fit if they think you're a public health threat.
I'm not convinced it'll happen.
Maybe it is, you know, a little fear mongery to be bringing it up or whatever, but if it's there, we ignore it and they do pass it and no one speaks about it, then we'll regret it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So what, what can we do?
We have to mention it exists and we've got to tell people in New York, do not let them pass this.
Otherwise one day I'll get a knock on the door from the NYPD, the, the, you know, the scumbags who are arresting people for not having vax cards.
And then they're going to say, come with me.
myron gaines
Oh my God.
luke rudkowski
And that's not too far from what's been happening in New York.
I mean, you see the videos all over social media.
People going in to Panera Bread saying, hey, I just want to order some food.
Police officers coming in there, acting like they're big, bad, brave soldiers.
Meanwhile, they were looking the other way during BLM riots.
They were twiddling their thumbs, not trying to get involved with that.
If a man doesn't get government paper permission to go to the Panera Bread, oh, they're going to go right on top of him, arrest him, lock him up, and rough him up.
That's crazy.
tim pool
So I'll tell you, you know, I point out that the police are stomping on the middle class working regular people, that they're trying to enforce, that they're literally enforcing government-mandated medical procedures, and I'll tell you what makes me feel like there's never going to be that handshake moment left or right between the culture war.
Because I'm actually getting criticized from the left for saying abolish the police They say yeah, but Tim's only saying it because the police are stomping on conservative civil rights, and I'm like well I'm talking about working-class people, but they're like doesn't matter we hate you and that's what it's all about so if I see cops walk in and arrest someone for trespassing
why was he trespassing? He didn't have a vax card it's it's it's it's complete BS
sorry, I'm not going to defend these cops. Furthermore, in that video of the uh... of the guy
getting arrested a female cop is stepping all over the american flag
she takes out of a guy's hand, throws it on the ground and then I don't think she was stomping it on purpose. Some
people said she was wiping her feet on it
no she's just walking all over it, she doesn't care this is the NYPD
So, you know, we've had Libby Emmons tell us the NYPD wasn't enforcing this stuff.
Well, they are now.
So if you live in New York, this is... I don't know, man.
Not everybody there voted for it.
luke rudkowski
What does Malice say?
There's no law too absurd or evil that they won't enforce?
tim pool
I'll try and paraphrase it.
There's no law so extreme and egregious that the police would not enforce it, including executing children.
luke rudkowski
Absolutely.
History tells that story, and now we're seeing it slowly being put into place with, oh, he didn't have this paper, he didn't get the permission from the government to be here, take him away, and they do, blindly so.
They have a choice, saying, hey, we're gonna respond to this call, hey, we're gonna take this seriously, and for them to punish people because they wanna eat food?
I mean, what kind of levels of insanity are we in?
That's crazy, and it's only going to get crazier from here.
tim pool
Let's play a game.
Get worse.
How much you wanna bet I can make a whole bunch of people say the following sentence?
Yeah, but it can't happen here.
How much you wanna bet I can make them say that?
luke rudkowski
Pretty easily.
tim pool
Very easily, right?
walter weekes
Breakfast tomorrow?
tim pool
If I said, the police will absolutely kick your door in and drag you from your home with no crime committed and no due process if ordered to by the mayor of New York.
luke rudkowski
Yup.
tim pool
If I said police, regardless of where they are, would go into your house and they would drag you out without due process, people would say, yeah, but it can't happen here.
Now, I'm not saying everybody would.
A lot of people are probably going like, yep, absolutely.
And they will.
Because I'll tell you this, especially if you're from Chicago, I'm pretty sure everyone in Chicago just went, yep.
Because I'll tell you what happens in Chicago.
In Chicago, I'm hanging out with my friends.
Cops kicked our door with their guns drawn and just walk into our house.
That's normal.
Completely normal in Chicago.
They'll drag you off to what they call the black site.
I think Ian looked this up.
It was in Humboldt Park, maybe.
I'm not sure.
Yeah, they just take you without due process.
They kick your door and they drag you from your home and they bring you to an unmarked location where they effectively, you know, torture and detain you.
Happens all the time.
myron gaines
What?
tim pool
Yeah, man.
Yeah, they had that guy in Chicago who was electrocuting people with a cattle prod to force them into confessing to crimes they didn't commit.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
So here's what happens.
You look in New York City, and you got a lot of people saying, like, you know, we've had Libby Edmonds on the show several times, and she repeatedly defends the NYPD.
I won't do that.
And the first time she was here, we had an argument about the police, because I've been, like, not happy with cops for a long time.
And I'm like, dude, 27 NYPD officers walked out.
You've got Mayor Bill de Blasio, who committed what I would only describe as several felonies, misappropriating taxpayer funding to paint a political message in front of Trump Tower.
And then he went to the NYPD and says, you're going to protect this for me.
And they went, OK.
So this dude literally commits some of the highest level corruption and the cops with a smile on their face said, I will arrest anyone who opposes you.
Like dude, we're already there.
You can defend the cops all day and night.
I ain't going to do it because they're literally there.
You've got the mayor of New York City.
Going on TV and saying we are going to strip life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness from the citizens to force them to undergo a medical procedure, and the NYPD, with a smile on their face, will arrest you if you try to buy food.
But you're trespassing!
Sorry.
It's for your safety.
That's happening.
So we're there.
walter weekes
So, I don't doubt you at all, Tim.
I think that's a very good, um, you know, prediction.
But my thing is, like, how do we even combat this?
Because, okay, it's either comply or goodbye.
Like I said earlier, right?
And as Undertale would say, Resist the slave mind.
Because the thing is that we're being brainwashed to say, you know what, okay, let's follow the rules because this can be safe, keep me, you know, we're a family together, all that stuff.
My thing is, okay, if we're aware of what's happening, how do we counteract this?
Because, you know, we're aware of what's happening, we're woke, we understand what's really happening behind the scenes.
How do you combat this?
tim pool
Uh, cops should quit.
If there's police officers who are aware of what's going on, they should quit.
Many have.
We've covered those stories over and over and over again.
A lot of cops are just like, I am done with this.
luke rudkowski
Call it out when it happens and stop worshiping authority.
One of my favorite memes is this kind of like MAGA hat Trump supporter, small shriveled up guy going up to a cop who's the kind of Chad here.
And he's like, I love you.
You're great.
I support, I back the blue.
And the Chad being like, off to the gulag, you January 6th insurrectionist.
And that's literally what's happening here.
We're seeing the politicization of the justice system in such a bastardized way.
It's crazy to see it happen right in front of our face.
And the only way to stop it, not comply, peacefully, don't go along with it, call it out when it happens, and don't incentivize it.
I mean, if you live in New York City, your taxes are supporting that system.
You're voting, incentivizing those people to do those things.
tim pool
Remember when those detectives tried to imprison Kyle Rittenhouse for the rest of his life?
Back to blue, baby!
Remember when a political message was painted on streets across the country, and we all said, just like in that quote from 1984 about how streets will be renamed, and the police came out and arrested anybody who tried to protest it?
Back the blue, baby.
Remember when cops showed up to a woman in New Jersey's store because she was live streaming on Facebook things she had for sale, and they said, you're not allowed to run your business.
Gotta back the blue, right?
Man, I could go on and on and on, couldn't I?
unidentified
Remember?
myron gaines
Yeah, situations like that are just terrible, man, because now you're infringing on people's ability to make money, to live, you know, and it's crazy because, I mean, I'm originally from Connecticut, so I definitely am familiar with the city and how New York City politics are, And here's the other thing, too.
People are kind of realizing and waking up because I'll tell you this, Florida real estate has been exploding.
Like, I can't even get a property right now because all the New Yorkers are moving down.
tim pool
Like, it is ridiculous.
No, that's not true.
That's absolutely... That can't be possible.
You're lying because the New Yorkers believe that Miami's sinking.
Don't they all believe that the water is going to rise 20 feet and the floor is going to get wiped off?
myron gaines
I guess they're so mad about wearing a mask.
They're like, screw this, I'm going to Florida!
I don't care, brother!
walter weekes
My friend, we are being overrun by New Yorkers.
I can't tell you how many.
It's crazy.
Even in dating apps.
Bunch of New York girls, bro.
myron gaines
Real estate rent prices have went up 38% in the city of Miami alone in the past year.
walter weekes
Property values.
tim pool
I was looking at properties where I used to live because I was in the Redlands.
And it's insane.
I'm like, that little tiny thing is going for a million bucks.
You're crazy.
luke rudkowski
I went there last year looking for property.
I couldn't find anything.
myron gaines
It's worse now.
New York, California.
New Jersey, a lot of people moving from Connecticut as well.
The Northeast in general, like outside of New Hampshire, they're all coming down to Florida and from California as well.
People from LA and Southern California, they're either going to Vegas or they're coming to Florida or they're going to Texas.
tim pool
It's crazy, man.
I got a house in Jersey and we were thinking of selling it because we're not there anymore.
And they're just like, when we got told the general area property value, I was like, well, I lost all my money.
Nobody wants to live there.
myron gaines
It actually went down?
tim pool
Yeah.
myron gaines
Cause real estate in general is going up, but it went down.
walter weekes
Yo, I bought a property, right?
Last year.
$333K I bought a property for.
A year later, $500K.
It's like, values are going way up, man.
tim pool
Without giving away too much private information, they told us a very low number where it's gone up since we bought it, but we bought it before the pandemic.
So at this point, I'm like, how is that what they're saying that the area's worth?
So I don't know if we'll be able to actually sell anything.
myron gaines
Get rid of it and go to Florida, man.
walter weekes
Yeah, man.
myron gaines
Go to Florida.
luke rudkowski
I'm going to be going down there.
tim pool
You got, you got, you know, Dave Rubin posted this compilation of all these Floridians being like, welcome to Florida, Dave.
Welcome to Florida.
It's like, oh yeah, well, West Virginia is where it's at, man.
We're building a big facility.
We're building like 7,500 square feet, 25 foot, you know, walls.
It's going to be massive inside.
We're building a new studio building.
We're going to have a whole bunch of stuff going on.
West Virginia, free domicile.
myron gaines
Well, I know a lot of real estate investors actually invest in West Virginia.
Fantastic place to invest right now.
tim pool
Bro, you can get like a hundred acres for a hundred grand.
myron gaines
Exactly.
Indiana as well.
tim pool
When I said the first time, I had a bunch of people be like, a hundred grand's not cheap.
And I'm like, a hundred acres for a hundred grand is cheap.
myron gaines
Sell that New Jersey property and take it over to West Virginia, man.
You're going to use a bunch of money and tax free, man.
tim pool
You go to like the New York Metro or North Jersey and it's like .2 of an acre is a million bucks.
Like, if you're lucky, you'll get like .01 of an acre.
It's like a townhouse sandwiched between two buildings and it's 500 grand.
myron gaines
I've never understood why people enjoy living.
I mean, no offense, I have family that live in New York City, but I've never liked it.
I've always thought it was dirty, expensive, dangerous.
Like, why?
You know what I'm saying?
And then you got this craziness going on with this clown world where they're arresting you for trying to go to Panera Bread without a mask.
walter weekes
Yeah.
myron gaines
And it's like, come on, man.
And the thing is this, I obviously used to work in law enforcement and most people that get on the job honestly want to get on there to help people.
Yeah.
Obviously you got your bad apples and everything else like that.
But a lot of guys come on trying to, you know, do right and everything else.
And I'll tell you, man, a lot of guys resigning from the force because of having to enforce stupid laws like this.
It's sad, man.
It's sad.
No one wants to get on the job to rescue.
walter weekes
So I got to know access last podcast right now.
What are you guys investing in for investments?
tim pool
Cryptocurrency, crypto, retail, real estate.
luke rudkowski
Are you the government?
I ain't telling you.
myron gaines
We the feds, we the feds.
tim pool
Myself, the business.
myron gaines
Business, real estate, crypto.
tim pool
We're putting a lot into building the new facility because This place is great, and we're still gonna have it, and we're gonna use it for a lot of production stuff.
We already record, like, several shows.
myron gaines
This place is lit, man.
walter weekes
This is dope, man.
myron gaines
As a production guy, like, I love, like, moving around senior equipment.
tim pool
Wait till you see... We signed off on the new building, so we're gonna have 50 acres.
unidentified
Sheesh!
tim pool
We're gonna have our own shooting range, we're gonna have dirt jumps, we're gonna have a skate park, and we're gonna be able to film tons of stuff.
We're gonna have a green screen room, so basically we can film and put someone anywhere, you know what I mean?
So, like, we could make sci-fi movies or... West Virginia has better gun laws, right?
Lack thereof.
Constitutional carry.
myron gaines
New Hampshire's the best place to be in New England.
tim pool
Great state.
If you walk around in West Virginia carrying a Barrett M82 or whatever, the worst thing that's going to happen is someone's going to walk up to you and say, are you crazy for carrying that thing?
It must be so heavy.
Cool gun, though.
myron gaines
Big fan.
I used to live in Texas, man.
Gun-friendly state.
tim pool
Yeah, I mean, I was surprised they only just passed constitutional carry in Texas, though.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
For a long time, it was kind of hard.
luke rudkowski
Florida needs to do that immediately.
myron gaines
You mean like open carry?
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
So up until last year, if you wanted a handgun in Texas, you'd take a class, then get like a license or something, like a handgun permit.
myron gaines
Oh, yeah, yeah.
If you want to carry it out, but if you want to have it in your house.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no.
Just to buy.
Constitutional carry is new in Texas.
You can walk in, buy it, walk around with it in your hand.
Just don't point it at people.
You know what I mean?
Now, constitutional carry is new in Texas.
You used to need permits and stuff.
unidentified
Yup.
walter weekes
Wow.
unidentified
Hmm.
Yeah.
myron gaines
Well, I bought it, you know, obviously, for the job.
So, yeah.
luke rudkowski
I didn't know that, but I know, obviously... You could invest in firearms and bullets.
myron gaines
Dude.
luke rudkowski
Not saying I do, but people care.
myron gaines
We did an interview with Robert Kiyosaki.
We talked about that.
You know, silver.
I invested in silver as well.
tim pool
I've got some silver and gold.
myron gaines
I want to get some gold.
But, yeah.
unidentified
Ammunition is going to be... I remember you mentioned that.
We talked about it last time.
tim pool
I'll tell you this.
I got an edge.
I got an in.
You guys want to know what you need to get?
Bottle caps.
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
Because in Fallout universe, everyone uses bottle caps as currency.
So that's what you need.
You need bottle caps.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
I'm kidding.
It's a video game.
Let's read some superchats, man.
If you haven't already, smash the like button.
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Let's read some of these superchats.
I'm just gonna tell you, there's a lot of guys, a lot of people in the superchats who are mad at you, so you want me to- I'm gonna read them, alright?
walter weekes
Let's go!
tim pool
Let's see if you guys are- Sheesh!
I'll read the first one.
Alex Corey says, fake and fraud.
unidentified
Oh.
Nice.
Clever.
walter weekes
Awesome.
myron gaines
Hey, we're here to scam.
That's what we're here for.
walter weekes
Scammers unite.
tim pool
Oh, so you admit it.
I said, oh, so you admit it.
myron gaines
Yeah, we're frauds.
walter weekes
Yeah, we're frauds, man.
At this point.
tim pool
All right.
America Float says, God bless Alex Jones and everyone putting in the good fight.
A fight for good.
myron gaines
Shout out to Alex Jones, man.
walter weekes
Shout out to Alex Jones.
tim pool
Man, they are really trying to destroy that guy for sure, man.
walter weekes
It's just sad, man.
myron gaines
He'll be able to fight it, man.
Like, they're gonna need a lot to be able to go through his stuff, man.
His reasonable expectation of privacy is high in what they're trying to get.
So, they're gonna have to fight tooth and nail to get his stuff, and he'll be able to get a legal team to fight that off.
And then also with the Trump thing, I want to say this, sorry not to cut off the super chats, but I think he'll beat that state case.
If they actually do bring fraud charges against him, I think he'll be able to beat it with his legal team.
tim pool
But they're going to try and jam him up to stop him from running, you know what I mean?
myron gaines
You're right.
tim pool
Let me just say one thing too, for a lot of people who are super chatting, they're asking about What?
about something that you guys are accused of doing that I don't know
anything about and they're they're super chatting as if I would know what it is
but I can I can I can ask you just this simple one Adam Griffin says can you ask
why these clowns tried to take down ABBA and preach with fake DMCA strikes
walter weekes
you want to go into it it's it's so so basically we have a lot of people that
talk about us on internet and some of it is slander some of it is defamation and
using our content in their videos and really okay cool we've waited out for a
while for you to stop you're still doing it so you know what cool now we're gonna
take legal action against you because obviously we're attacking our character
myron gaines
and our integrity so at that point hey it's all for a game Yeah, I mean, simply put, if someone breaks into your store, right, and takes a broom off, you have a hardware store, takes a broom off the shelf and starts beating you with your own broom and won't leave and does it for four months, what are you gonna do?
tim pool
Well, you can't file a DMCA over it.
myron gaines
Yeah, apparently not.
You can't.
tim pool
So they just get it reversed or what?
Yeah, it's a long story, but basically... Simply put, the challenges when it comes to public figures and defamation cases is really hard to win.
myron gaines
It is.
tim pool
But, you know, look, I actually tell people... We've got people who rip off our members-only content, which is actually...
Probably not fair use.
So if I downloaded your video and then I started just playing clips while commenting on it, it's fair use.
Very difficult to win that.
But I've got people who go to TimCast.com, take those behind a paywall, publish them online, and then comment on them.
Now that's the line.
I don't go after them still, though.
They take clips out of context, they make stuff up, I just ignore it.
It's probably the best thing to do.
But this is where people are... One of the questions about copyright infringement and fair use is, are you infringing on someone's market?
myron gaines
That's what I was gonna say, because fair use depends on different countries, it's different depending where you are, but a big thing on fair use where it hurts your ability to get protected by fair use is, are you hurting that other person's ability to profit from their own product?
tim pool
But this is specific.
It basically means, like, if you're a photojournalist and you sell photos for a living, and then you post a sample on Twitter, and you say to license this photo, buy it here, and then people start posting it everywhere, now you've got copyright infringement because even though it's online, even though it's newsworthy, and even though people are commenting on it, they're infringing on your market because you directly sell this content, which means you said, license it from me.
If you guys do a publicly available show and people post it and comment on it, you got no case.
You can't DMCA it.
So for us, what I'm saying is on our website, we have a paywall.
If you want to watch the video, you have to pay for it.
If someone then takes that, posts it online and says, I'm commenting on it, nope, no dice.
That's why you can't post movies on YouTube, but just say like, you can't post a movie while watching it and go, wow.
That's crazy, because you're literally taking away the market share from the business.
myron gaines
Yeah, I mean, it depends on where you are.
I will just say this, just so we could put a bow on it, is we successfully removed a bunch of videos on that, that were not protected by fair use, that were doing the same thing.
but you know it is what it is you know we don't have any animosity towards these guys it's just like hey man we don't attack anyone else we don't make hippies on anyone else anything that was put up was taken down out of respect to those other content creators and for people to continue making content on us negatively for for months on end it's it's just like at some point so you got to defend yourself right work so All right, let's see, what do we got here?
tim pool
Captain Mad Dog says, are you going to discuss what happened on Eliza's show, You Are Here Concerning Jack Murphy, giving Sidney Watson a heartfelt FU.
Yes, we will!
With Jack.
Jack's gonna be here, so I'm sure we're gonna end up talking about it.
Several people are bringing this up.
MJ says, hey Tim, have you seen how Jack Murphy snapped at Sidney Watson?
I was absolutely disturbed.
Yeah, yeah, he should have done that.
That was a big mistake.
I know he's apologized for it.
I haven't really tracked much of what else he's done because...
We'll talk to him when he comes, I'm sure it'll come up, and I can tell you this, I watched the clip because, you know, it was like the day after we did... Friday night, after the show, that's when we were like, hey, let's watch this.
luke rudkowski
We're getting a lot of comments about this, and that's when we saw it.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know enough about it.
What I can say is, Sydney Watson was reading Super Chats.
She asked Jack about an article that he didn't want brought up, and then he just immediately started snapping at her saying F you over and over several times.
And then people were immediately like, whoa, dude.
And then people got mad at Elijah because he didn't step up or do anything.
And totally inappropriate on Jack's part.
People have said he's apologized.
I haven't been following it all that much because I'm like, yo, you know, look, don't snap at Sidney for reading a super chat, you know, be tactful and do better.
But is this really like, you know, Joe Biden's talking about death for the unvaxxed and the military is worried about a coup and Alex Jones is suing the January 6th committee.
So I'm sure we'll talk about it because drama is, you know, sometimes important to talk about.
myron gaines
That's what people love, man.
luke rudkowski
We're gonna have to push up the fighting date between me and Jack here.
Just a little bit.
myron gaines
You know, it sucks, man.
I mean, I saw the clip, you know.
I mean, it sucks.
I mean, if he apologized, great.
You know what I'm saying?
If he apologized, hey, you know, people make mistakes.
We're all human.
walter weekes
Look, we're human, man.
Like, at the end of the day, man, like, we take a lot of criticism being online, so it's tough.
It's not easy.
luke rudkowski
You should always allow redemption.
tim pool
Yes.
Somebody was super chatted something about another, like, prominent, you know, high-profile progressive outlet that was smack-talking me.
And my response is, I'll tell you this, the one way to piss me off, to get me pissed at you, is to send me drama that other people are saying.
unidentified
It's true.
tim pool
I know some people who are, like, decently high-profile YouTubers, and they'll message me like, yo, dude, did you see what this guy said about you?
And I'm like, if you send me something like this ever again, I'll block you.
myron gaines
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, yo, I'm literally researching.
I'm like sitting here and I'm pulling up Ukrainian prosecutorial documents in my office trying to learn about what's going on with Burisma and Hunter Biden.
unidentified
And I have people messaging me like, yo, dude, this guy on YouTube said you suck.
tim pool
And I'm like, this could matter.
This could matter less to me.
And I'm actually pissed off now that you're breaking my concentration.
myron gaines
Don't send me this stuff, dude.
And I'll tell you, Tim, we get that all day, every day.
And to me, it's like, we're not gonna respond to it.
It is what it is.
We don't make content to cause drama or whatever, even though everyone seems to use our name for drama.
And we're just focused on making good content, helping guys make money, get in shape, and be more attractive to women, and self-improve, keeping guys from hurting themselves.
Self-deletion, I don't wanna say that word on YouTube, but you guys know what I'm saying.
It's like, we get DMs.
Every single day, we're guys saying, hey, you kept me from doing such and such to myself.
And it's like, whatever, man.
If people want to make drama and use our name in the process, it is what it is.
walter weekes
At this point, I look at it as free promotion.
And we just had a 500K party, you know, for hitting 500K subs on YouTube.
A bunch of celebs showed up.
Celebrities showed up as well.
It's like, yo, like, we're doing big things for our community and for our people.
So like, that's all that really matters, honestly.
myron gaines
Yeah.
And we don't have to drag other people's name through the mud to do it.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, we're not.
As much as people make insults on us, it's like, we don't have to talk smack about other people.
tim pool
You have to wonder why people, like, so after the RA Rugged Man stuff happened, I was getting a bunch of people sending me these videos from YouTubers, and I'm just like, hey, like, some of them were defending me, some of them were criticizing me, I'm like, why would I care to watch any of that stuff?
walter weekes
Facts.
tim pool
Like, no, I'm not trying to be mean to people who sent it to me, like, I can appreciate the emails and the messages, and I'm just like, Why do I need to hear someone's thoughts on me when I'm literally talking about my thoughts on Joe Biden and Donald Trump and the military and China?
I think there's so many... I'll give you some advice, everybody.
If you want to have a successful channel, a successful show, don't talk about Tim Pool.
Talk about Joe Biden, talk about Donald Trump, talk about Nancy Pelosi, talk about Chuck Schumer, talk about Mitch McConnell.
Talk about people that are literally up there in the government that are doing things that have an impact on everybody.
Because being like, let's have inter-podcast drama, You know what, I'll tell you this, you'll get a decent amount of subs, you'll get a decent amount of views, and no one will ever take you seriously, and that'll be the extent to which you'll get traffic.
walter weekes
You're in a box.
If you don't talk about that person, you're not getting views.
myron gaines
Yeah, and that's kind of where a lot of our detractors are, is like, they only get views when they talk about us.
I mean, hell, one of our detractors, I kind of was laughing at it, he was live, I ain't gonna say his name, but he was live on air, less than a thousand views, but when he talks about us, he has five, ten thousand live viewers, so it's like, It just goes to show that there's an entire market on talking smack about us, and it is what it is.
We're just going to continue being positive.
tim pool
Yeah, I'll tell you what, it's a drug, right?
Here's what happens.
Someone will start a YouTube channel, and they'll be like, hey, when I smack talk Fresh and Fit, I get 10,000 views.
When I talk about, you know, men's issues and stuff, I only get 1,000 views.
I should smack talk them more.
What ends up happening, though, is you're getting addicted to making content that is not valuable to people other than haters.
If you want to be taken seriously, if you want to be successful, if you want to get a million subs, you've got to talk about things that matter to people.
And I tell you this, you know what most people say when you're like, yo, did you see what so-and-so said about Tim Pool?
They go, who's Tim Pool?
These people might know who I am, but most people don't.
We do a decently sized show, I suppose.
Well, I think we're, like, ranked 215 on iTunes.
myron gaines
36K live viewers, pretty damn good, man.
unidentified
That's what?
myron gaines
36K live viewers, pretty good, too.
tim pool
Well, sure, sure, but, like, our podcast ranking is, like, 200, 215.
Really?
It's good!
myron gaines
Worldwide?
tim pool
Worldwide.
unidentified
That's not bad.
tim pool
That's not bad, that's not bad.
Are we Ben Shapiro?
Are we number one?
And even then, why are you talking about Ben Shapiro?
We do talk about some people sometimes, don't get me wrong.
Sometimes there's big news and things matter, and sometimes it's things to address, but what I'm saying is, for the most part, Talk about politics, talk about the government, talk about big cultural issues.
Alec Baldwin shot a lady, that's why we talk about him.
myron gaines
And you invite people on your show that you disagree with.
walter weekes
Yeah, that's important.
myron gaines
A lot of people don't do that.
walter weekes
Discourse.
myron gaines
You know what I'm saying?
That discourse I think is very important.
tim pool
Alright, let's read a bunch more Super Chats.
myron gaines
Let's do it.
walter weekes
Let's go.
tim pool
Well, okay, I'll read two.
One of them says, fresh and fit, this is Black Lion Grunt, congratulations on 500k subs and helping men all over the world.
Thank you.
Number 304 in West Virginia, lol.
walter weekes
Thank you, brother.
tim pool
And then, uh, what did someone else, okay, so then this guy says, Justin Mann, he says, great guest, Tim, lol, JK.
See, you got a good one, you got a bad one.
walter weekes
Yeah, it's fine, man.
myron gaines
It's all good, man.
As long as there's Super Chan and you, bro.
tim pool
bro. All right here we go. All right Seth Booth says Tim your Colorado trucker
segment take is wrong I think. I work incident response to Colorado DOT and I
worked that crash. Trucker didn't use engine brakes coming down the mountain
and burned out his brakes. His fault. Right so but it was an accident?
Is it 110 years?
You guys know this story?
Truck driver, 23-year-old guy was driving, brakes failed, he crashed, and I knew there was something with the story that I didn't completely understand as to why he got convicted, but he got convicted because four people died and he was sentenced to 110 years in prison.
unidentified
Whoa!
tim pool
So they're saying it's his fault because he didn't use his engine brakes coming down the mountain.
And I'm like, dude, is being stupid 110 years in prison?
Cause man, there's a lot of people that we could start locking up.
You know what I mean?
So I don't think this dude should get 110 years.
I think he should just get his license permanently revoked.
You can't drive anymore, dude.
You know, and you got to like maybe pay restitution or something, but sending a dude to prison for that long, man.
unidentified
That's a young dude.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
walter weekes
His life is over.
myron gaines
Yeah.
I mean, the trucking company, like, really, if you're gonna look at it, like, they supplied him a truck that wasn't equipped for the, you know, for the job.
tim pool
Alright, Celeste R. says, hey, have any of you read the Unwind series?
It takes place after a civil war fought over pro-life, pro-choice issues.
It also deals with the deep state, manipulative propaganda, corrupt policing, and the military-industrial complex.
Sent first book to Lids.
You ever hear that one?
walter weekes
I actually want to read it now, though.
tim pool
Yeah.
So I was saying this before.
There was an article by Charles Unblown in the New York Times, and I also said this before, he even wrote it, because I think it's a common idea a lot of people are bringing up, that abortion may be the catalyst for a civil war.
So in June of next year, many people believe the Supreme Court's going to overturn Roe v. Wade, which will instantly trigger 12 states enacting abortion bans.
They're called trigger laws, something like that.
And then I think it's fair to say that you'll have Republicans, if they win the House, immediately move for a federal abortion ban across the board.
And then if they have the Senate, Joe Biden will veto it.
But then you'll get Donald Trump running in 2024, probably with an indictment under his belt, who's going to say, the first thing I will do is sign the federal abortion ban.
Then the West Coast states are like, we're seceding.
And then you get red state, you get the Trump administration saying, we're going to send in the National Guard to stop the rebellion in these states.
myron gaines
I just don't ever see abortion becoming, you know, illegal in the United States.
I just don't see it.
tim pool
So I'll put it this way.
myron gaines
Feminists will fight tooth and nail, man, to keep that.
No, they won't.
tim pool
They absolutely will not.
myron gaines
To keep abortion around?
tim pool
Yeah, they won't.
You don't think so?
I know for a fact they won't.
I think there are some that maybe, but for the most part, abortion is not an issue that they're willing to fight for.
They're willing to politically espouse values for, they're willing to tweet about it, but they're not going to go sneak into, like they tweet about, there was someone tweeting about this, she was like, you know, when this, when they start banning abortions, we're going to sneak in and start setting up, you know, secret abortion clinics.
Like, no, you're not.
Look, I'm sorry, man.
It may happen once or twice, but what I mean is there is not going to be a large group of people who are, like, putting on suits and arming themselves to go in and perform abortion.
It's not gonna happen.
unidentified
But I'll tell you this.
myron gaines
No, no, no, of course.
tim pool
But hold on.
Do you think right-wing individuals and pro-lifers would go in to shut down abortion clinics if it's made illegal?
myron gaines
They would.
tim pool
Absolutely.
myron gaines
They would fight for it.
But I will say this, though.
I don't think we'll get to that point because We live in a world now, and I guess we can agree to disagree here.
We live in a world where, in my opinion, I think the female way of thinking seems to be the correct way to think.
And the female way of thinking predominantly is, hey, pro-choice.
I'm pro-choice.
You know, most women adopt a pro-choice mantra, which is fine, but I just don't ever see abortion being legal in the United States because feminism is strong here.
tim pool
Did you follow the Supreme Court arguments?
myron gaines
No, I did not see it.
I did not see it.
But I just don't see it happening.
tim pool
Yeah, so basically, all the conservatives, justices, put out arguments and questions to the, what do you call it?
I can't remember the woman's name.
The Solicitor General, saying like, you've got no reason for Roe v. Wade to stand.
NBC News, Slate, a bunch of leftists, all were tweeting, that's it.
June 2022, Roe v. Wade's overturned.
12 states already have laws in the books saying as soon as it's overturned, they'll trigger and abortion will be instantly illegal.
unidentified
Damn.
tim pool
So, look.
You had Clarence Thomas.
myron gaines
I mean, we could agree to disagree on it, but I just don't see it happening, man.
tim pool
People think, hey, it can't happen here, and then 800 people storm into the Capitol, right?
myron gaines
What were the 12 states like?
It's like Mississippi.
Okay, that makes sense.
tim pool
So take a look at Clarence Thomas.
During the oral arguments, he was like, where in the Constitution is abortion a right?
And the Solicitor General was like, it's a 14th Amendment issue.
Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Brett Kavanaugh was like, For what reason is this a matter of the Supreme Court and not a matter for Congress?
And he's right 100%.
The issue of abortion is not a court issue, a constitutional issue.
It's a legislative issue.
And it's only because of this precedent that it exists.
A ruling happened and all of a sudden now they're like, well, that's the way it is.
Whether or not abortion should or shouldn't be illegal should not be a precedent for the Supreme Court.
It should be a law.
Pass through legislation.
It shouldn't be a statutory law.
myron gaines
This is what I think is going to happen.
I think the feds are not going to get involved and they're just going to say states you deal with it and just let the states do it.
tim pool
That's literally what overturning Roe v. Wade means.
myron gaines
But that's what I'm saying.
I don't think it's going to get overturned.
tim pool
So right now, Roe v. Wade is saying states, you have no right to talk about this.
If Roe v. Wade is overturned, they're saying states, you deal with it.
We won't.
You see what I'm saying?
So you disagree with me, you didn't realize it.
They're gonna say just that.
Kavanaugh's gonna be like, it's a matter for the legislative bodies of the states, and for Congress, not for us.
Clarence Thomas has already said, where in the Constitution does it say this?
I can read the Second Amendment.
I understand it.
Ain't nothing in there about abortion.
myron gaines
No, of course.
tim pool
Firearms, but but to be fair it could be said that the conservatives on supreme court are spineless and won't do
anything So maybe that'll happen. Maybe they'll just be like well.
We're scared of overturning long-standing precedent, so yeah
myron gaines
I just I just don't see people like fighting with that man like it
It's something that is such a sensitive topic, especially to women in general, having that pro-choice, that ability to be able to make that decision.
I just don't foresee it happening.
tim pool
We got a 6-3 Supreme Court?
Technically 5-4 because nobody trusts Roberts.
myron gaines
We'll see, but I just personally don't foresee it happening.
There's no way.
tim pool
Trashpanda says, we won't have a civil war.
Me, an intellectual.
Chaz, George Floyd riots, January 6th, vaccine mandates, Waukesha attack.
You know what's just really crazy about these people who are like, stop saying civil war.
Last year, in several cities, far leftists took over a portion of their cities and killed people.
There was a dude in Minnesota on a rooftop with a long gun.
People were being shot at in their cars in the George Floyd Square Autonomous Zone, in the Chazz.
They lit up a white SUV with two teenagers in it, killing one of them.
And nothing happened to these people.
And they're like, Quite literally, Far Left is taking over a police station and a small portion of their city.
There's not going to be a civil war.
Oh, they did it in Minneapolis.
They tried doing it in Portland like 12 times.
But no, we're not, you know, 800 people.
Okay, well, they did enter the capital and there was a riot.
No, but we're not going in.
I mean, they are trying to indict the former president, which would prevent him from running again, even though he has massive popular support.
And the Republicans all, no, but we're not... They are currently subpoenaing the former presidential administration and trying to imprison them with criminal charges, but no, no, no, nothing else will happen.
This is where it all stops.
myron gaines
And I think this is the part where, like, I know you guys are like, abolish the police or whatever, but this is the danger of when you do that, you know what I'm saying?
Effectively, that area was, they abolished the police, and then what happened?
Anarchy, guys going crazy, people dying, people, you know, ridiculous.
Obviously, you gotta be in that sweet middle ground, right?
Where, like, you're still able to, you know, you have the liberty to go to a Panera and get food, you know, without being arrested, right?
But at the same time, you wanna be able to, you know, have the safety and not have an issue of, like, a bunch of crazy Antivit people in masks attacking you, you know?
Yeah.
tim pool
All right.
One Step Too Far says, privacy never appears in the Constitution.
No express right to privacy exists, but privacy of beliefs, home, property, and person.
Silence privilege and Liberty Clause 14 is granted through amendment.
Oh, he's naming 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 14th.
Right.
I understand it.
And I think because, look, the Fourth Amendment is your right to be secure in your person or whatever.
Yeah, that's your privacy.
You know what I mean?
And so, yeah, there's other amendments.
It's literally in there.
walter weekes
Do you think people are going to write when Ghislaine Maxwell is free?
unidentified
No.
walter weekes
No?
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
myron gaines
Oh, she's going to jail.
tim pool
You think she's going to free?
myron gaines
I think they're going to... She's going to jail, bro.
walter weekes
100%.
myron gaines
They're going to throw her... She's going to get a bunch of time, like...
luke rudkowski
Well, they're going into closing arguments right now, and the state has absolutely failed in their arguments, failed in the people they brought forward, so it could go either way.
It's in the jury's hands, but I think the state did absolutely poor jobs.
myron gaines
It's the Fed?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, the state.
The state, the feds.
myron gaines
The feds did a horrible job.
Okay, okay.
I think she's going to jail, man.
luke rudkowski
She should, but the state didn't present a good enough case from my perspective, from what I've seen.
tim pool
Yeah, it's been... Alright.
All right, Angela McArdle says, it's not a good strategy to do outreach to people who hate you, but it's good to be welcoming to ex-leftists after they've been cast out by their own.
Absolutely.
lydia smith
She's awesome.
tim pool
That's right.
myron gaines
I will say this.
I think they'll get her on at least one of those charges, which are going to carry a significant time.
Because the Feds, when it comes to child sex trafficking, are always crazy.
luke rudkowski
They operate it.
myron gaines
They're the ones doing it.
luke rudkowski
They have the receipts with Epstein, with the federal government aiding and abetting that operation for over 30 years.
That's the argument that I'm making, is that they worked Hand-in-hand with the feds, 30 years, thousands of children got hurt, paid for by your tax dollars.
Every step of the way you look, government intervened and helped him out.
So that's why I'm not optimistic about this case.
She should go to jail.
What she did is absolutely horrible.
And so should a lot of other people connected to this that were not even called to testify, which is an absolute shame.
Yeah.
myron gaines
That's the biggest thing.
They just have to make one.
Sorry, go ahead, Tim.
You got something?
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Kevin Vasquez says, What's up, crew?
Love the show.
Been listening for over a year now.
I need to move out of NY and often hear Luke talk about how great New Hampshire is.
What makes it a better state than Florida?
luke rudkowski
The most amount of legal machine gun ownership anywhere else in the United States.
The most amount of free schoolers.
Both states are great.
It depends what you like.
I love both, and that's why I go to New Hampshire, I go to West Virginia, I go to Florida.
I spend a lot of time all over the place.
But it's really about what you personally like yourself.
There's a big community in New Hampshire with the Free State Project, but there's also a big Bitcoin community in Miami, which is amazing and growing and expanding.
It's super and exciting.
The energy is there, the parties are there, the life is there.
If you have a family and you want to settle down, New Hampshire is the way to go.
If you're young and you want to have some fun and you want to build relationships and build businesses, Florida is the best place to go right now or El Salvador.
walter weekes
Well said.
myron gaines
And if you like the seasons as well, New Hampshire is beautiful for that.
And you know, if I was going to raise a family, yeah, I'd be, I'd be in New Hampshire.
walter weekes
I think Florida is just underrated, man.
Like there's so much in Florida, opportunity, people come here all the time for vacation, you know, the weather, the food, the culture, you can't miss.
luke rudkowski
I love it there.
tim pool
You guys ever go out to Stiltsville?
myron gaines
I'm sorry?
tim pool
You guys ever go out to Stiltsville?
myron gaines
Where's that?
tim pool
Stiltsville?
walter weekes
Where's that?
unidentified
Come on.
walter weekes
Is that Key West?
tim pool
No, it's just south of the city.
Right outside, I think it's International Waters, where they built buildings on stilts because the water level's really low.
But they built it so they could gamble legally outside of the jurisdiction of the United States.
walter weekes
Really?
What?
I didn't even know!
tim pool
So it's a few small buildings.
They were damaged in the 90s, like during Hurricane Andrew or whatever.
But people have parties on them all the time.
Yeah, so I was out with this dude on his boat, and we saw a party, so we just went up to it, and they were like, who the hell are you?
And we were like, who are you?
What are you doing in these buildings?
You don't own them?
And they were like, you can't come to this party, dude.
And we were like, eh, whatever, we left.
But yeah, you go out, it just goes south of Miami, and it's Stiltzville.
It's a bunch of buildings on stilts in the water.
walter weekes
I need an invite, bro.
tim pool
Well, I don't think I don't I think they're like just abandoned buildings now.
Oh, yeah And so people just go up there and party because you're like, I don't know never heard of it man the party island I know but not still yeah, that's right.
Let's read Let's go name of the game says super chats don't need to be read or acknowledge to be effective Just have some scratch throw it out there and influence So I want to say that because we can't read everyone super chats But I will point out a lot of people like in the chat or who are watching they're gonna see what you super chat Yeah, it pops up and it stays there for a while Lurch685 says, successful people grind, losers cry about successful people, smart people try to work for and with successful people and learn from them.
You know, I'll make a point.
Luke, you watch Tucker Carlson a bit, right?
How often does he complain about Rachel Maddow?
luke rudkowski
Like, once every two weeks, just about.
tim pool
How often does he complain about Brian Stelter?
luke rudkowski
Once a week at least.
tim pool
A lot, right?
luke rudkowski
Yes.
tim pool
Yeah.
How often does Brian Stelzer complain about Fox News, though?
luke rudkowski
All the time.
tim pool
Every day.
luke rudkowski
That's all he does.
tim pool
You know what I mean?
So it's like, I think it's okay if you're talking about someone to point out and criticize them regardless of who they are.
But I also think it's important to like have perspective on what's really important.
You know, Brian Stelzer gets what, like 80,000 viewers, I think?
Total?
unidentified
Really low.
tim pool
Yeah, like, it's just like, he'd be better off making a YouTube video of himself, you know, playing, you know, ping pong.
luke rudkowski
Tucker calls him the eunuch.
tim pool
Yep, yep.
Yep.
But, you know, perspective.
People who are at the bottom are going to complain about the people at the top all day, every day, instead of... There.
But you know what happens?
Hate always comes from below, man.
The crabs who climb out of the bucket are the ones who are focused on the sky and not each other.
Bam.
Because if you're trapped in that bucket and all you're doing is pointing at someone else and yelling at them, the dude who's looking up is the one who's going to climb out.
luke rudkowski
You could be building or destroying.
You choose.
unidentified
Yep.
myron gaines
Absolutely, man.
walter weekes
Well, the hate we create.
myron gaines
Exactly.
unidentified
Yep.
Bam.
myron gaines
Bam.
That's what we always say.
tim pool
Blue C says Tim CDL driver here the trucker trucker got the sentence deserved for the lives lost and the dozens permanently disabled from his carelessness.
Sorry All right 23 year old All right, let's grab some of these super I get that appealed It's me says if no engine breaks because he was in wrong gear interesting there's a lot of people were following us off, you know, and Brian Noel says, Tim, you said all the good cops should quit, but then all we would have is bad cops on the streets who will always enforce these edicts.
We need the good cops to be there to not enforce these edicts, but I don't know where they're at, so how about the good cops quit, and then what'll happen is they're gonna be like, hey, we're short-staffed and we can't supply any officers to you.
Sorry.
You know what'll happen?
They're gonna be like, the police are too busy defending the police station, so they're not gonna come and help you.
I love that story of the guy in New York, who had a fight broke out in his building during the riots, and he called the police, and he was like, I need some help, I need the police, there's a fight happening in my hallways, and the old man went, sir, the city is under attack, what would you have us do?
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
Yeah.
There was a woman, I think it was in Virginia, and Black Lives Matter jumped on her car, and they were jumping up and down, and she had her kids with her, and she called the police, and they were like, we can't do anything for you, you're on your own.
unidentified
So it's like... That's why the Second Amendment is such a great amendment.
tim pool
That's the thing too, exactly.
I tell people, when they're like, I oppose the death penalty.
And they're like, so you think these abusers should go free?
And I'm like, no, I think the women and children who are abused should be armed.
Yeah, kids.
I don't know what the age is for a parent to get their kid a gun, but like, we've had a lot of people talk to us about how when they're 12, their dad gave them a rifle to go hunting.
They learned how to be safe.
The problem is when people are reckless and don't have proper firearms culture and safety training, that kids don't understand it.
They find it.
They play with it.
That's the problem.
Now again, I don't know exactly to what age, you know, a parent wants to decide their kid can handle a weapon.
I think probably they got to be a little bit older, probably a teenager at some point, but A gun is a tool, man.
myron gaines
I mean, that's all it is.
And honestly, even if you hate guns, you should at least be trained so that, God forbid something ever happened, you know how to operate one, you know how to, you know, discharge one safely, you know how to, you know, clean it, you know.
tim pool
I think everybody should have guns.
myron gaines
Yeah, I think so too.
luke rudkowski
Because then it's like, if you're going to force them to have healthcare, force us to have guns.
tim pool
Look, people are like, these evil people who are committing these atrocities should be put to death, and I'm like, the people who are victimized should be armed.
Yeah.
I'm not saying that'll end all victimization.
myron gaines
It'll help.
luke rudkowski
It'll prevent a lot.
tim pool
We don't, we don't got to worry about, you know, uh, the state getting involved if some, you know, psycho rapist tries to attack a woman and then she defends herself from this, this, this evil.
Well, you know, Hey, look, maybe people shouldn't be evil and try and harm other people in that way.
You know what I mean?
myron gaines
The scariest thing is being somewhere where only the police and criminals have guns.
You don't want that.
You know what I'm saying?
You gotta be able to protect yourself in times of peril where the police can't get to you or whatever, and time is of the essence, and everyone needs to understand basic gun safety.
You know, keep it pointed in a safe direction, how to load a gun, how to load a magazine, how to, you know, disarm a gun, you know, break it down, clean it.
You need to learn these basic things.
tim pool
Alright, here we go.
We'll read one more.
Romans says, hello.
My mom is a really big fan and watches your show every night.
My dad got in a bad motorcycle wreck and I was hoping for you and your fans, hoping for you and your fans to support him on GoFundMe.
Keep up the great work.
Help James while recovering by Sarah Duran.
I certainly hope that your dad gets better.
Motorcycle accidents are no joke.
I think it's like, what is it, one in four people on motorcycles will get into an accident?
luke rudkowski
It's crazy.
walter weekes
It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when.
myron gaines
You got in a motorcycle accident, right?
walter weekes
Three.
I almost died.
One in Barbados and two here in Florida.
And you know what it is?
People are on their phones and they're just living life, getting drunk and getting lit.
So your life is in their hands, literally.
So I said, you know what?
I'm done writing.
Yeah, no more.
tim pool
Spoonie Jenk says you treat Jack like you say people treat Baldwin.
I'm not sure what that means.
Are you talking about Jack Murphy?
He's not here.
I haven't talked to him about any of this stuff.
walter weekes
He's coming, though.
tim pool
He's coming.
Yeah, he's coming on Wednesday.
And I'm sure the first thing that's going to happen is people are going to be asking about this, you know.
All right, here, last one.
Harry Drews says, recent listener and I love your content.
My dad who was a maverick thinker lost his life earlier this month.
Your podcast has helped me stay sanish during this time.
I think embodies this podcast's way of navigating.
Thank you.
All right.
I really appreciate it, man.
I'm sorry for your loss and I wish you the best.
Condolences, man.
Let's do it!
We gotta do one more right here.
Let's do it.
Tarzan Jungle Kung Fu says, actual truck driver here.
Engine brakes are an assist to shifting the truck low and stab braking when needed as you descend.
An engine brake doesn't matter if the service brakes fail, it will run away eventually.
unidentified
All right, man, I don't know.
tim pool
But hey, go to TimCast.com, become a member.
We're gonna get into that members segment now and we'll get spicy with it.
myron gaines
So again- A little spicy, guys, join in.
tim pool
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Your shows?
walter weekes
Yeah, man.
Follow us on YouTube, FreshmanFit.
Also as well, personal Instagram, FreshmanCO.
Our main page, FreshmanFit Podcast.
And Amiron, you want to plug your stuff?
myron gaines
Yeah, mine is UnpluggedFit, guys.
You know, there's a lot of impersonators of us recently, so we got the two verified accounts, so you'll know it's us, UnpluggedFit, FreshmanCO.
And then check us out on YouTube.
Fresh and Fit, and then we also have a Clips channel, Fresh and Fit Clips.
Check us out every Monday.
We talk about, you know, making money, money Mondays, Wednesdays, we're womanizing Wednesdays, Fridays, fitness Fridays, and then every single night, Monday through Friday, we bring on girls and we have discussions about dating, relationships, sex, and you can watch me, you know, get in debates and or sometimes kick out annoying girls.
walter weekes
And we bring on celebrity guests as well.
myron gaines
Yes.
walter weekes
Like rappers, you know, people in the news, over that too, so.
myron gaines
Yeah, we got you guys for everything.
We're gonna get Tim down as well, one day.
walter weekes
Yeah, meet Tim in the studio.
myron gaines
I know he never leaves, but.
luke rudkowski
We're gonna go down to Florida.
tim pool
Yeah, we're gonna be there, I think, in February?
luke rudkowski
Uh, there's the Bitcoin conference that's going to be going on there.
I'm going to be speaking at that.
And, um, uh, there's a lot of possibilities in Florida.
I want to build, grow and expand.
myron gaines
So, uh, got a huge network.
walter weekes
Jordan, Jordan Peterson come in in February too.
unidentified
Really?
walter weekes
Yeah.
So, and Michaela.
luke rudkowski
So we're going to schedule.
I'm going to build a Freedama stand in Florida.
That's my goal.
So if you're in Florida, could help me do that.
If you know any real estate agents, let me know.
But it's time to build and expand and grow and let's do this.
walter weekes
We got a bunch.
luke rudkowski
So yeah.
myron gaines
Yeah, we'd be happy to have you guys.
luke rudkowski
So yeah, I mean, it's only a matter of time.
The energy is in Florida.
It's amazing.
It's immaculate.
walter weekes
You know what I want to see?
I want to see you and Tim in the club.
That would be funny as hell!
luke rudkowski
Let's get lit!
I did a bunch of crazy clubs in Miami.
It's an experience, but it's so weird.
It's like a little prison industry.
We can talk about that later.
But anyway, I have my own independent media organization called We Are Change.
I released two videos today, one on LukeUncensored.com about Trump's pro-Big Pharma statements and another one on YouTube.com forward slash We Are Change.
And because you guys have me here, Thank you so much for being a part of this conversation and helping spread all of this independent media, decentralizing all of our forces and doing the best we can to kick some major globalists behind.
Thanks so much for having me.
lydia smith
Thank you guys very much for tuning in this evening.
I was in the corner all evening pushing buttons.
It was a lot of fun.
I love these guys, love our conversations.
You guys may follow me on Twitter at Sour Patch Lens.
tim pool
We'll see you all over at TimCast.com for the member segment.
Thanks for hanging out.
unidentified
Bye guys.
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