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Timcast IRL - People Chant LETS GO BRANDON To Biden's Face As His Agenda Fails w/Elisha Krauss
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elisha krauss
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tim pool
I don't know about all of you guys, but I think Joe Biden's not going to be running for president in 2024.
You got a New York Times article saying he shouldn't run and he should tell everyone he's not running.
You've got vultures circling his withered, decaying body.
All these prominent individuals in the Democratic Party are being lined up.
Even CNN's running an article saying the 11 Democrats who could replace Joe Biden, the media knows it.
It's time to admit it.
Joe Biden is not going to make it to the end of a second term.
He'd be, what, 86, I think is what they say in the New York Times?
86 years old.
And now we have this.
Joe Biden goes to Kentucky because of the disaster, and people are yelling at him, let's go, Brandon.
They don't like this guy.
People don't like this guy.
Now, look, I get it.
60-some-odd percent of Democrats want him to run again.
Only 60 percent!
Independent voters mostly don't.
Republicans obviously don't.
But he can't even get more than 60 percent of his own party?
Dude's out.
So we'll definitely talk about this.
We're going to talk about what's going on with New York City banning gas buildings.
So they're switching to all electricity.
And now there's speculation that's going to result in rolling blackouts.
But I guess that's what happens when you have Democrat leadership in New York unrestrained, shutting down free speech, shutting down people's livelihoods.
Nobody cares.
I mean, people fled, I guess, but now that you've just given the despots full control of the city and I can't blame people for leaving.
Joining us to talk about all of this is Alicia Krauss.
Did I say it?
Krauss.
elisha krauss
Totally wrong.
tim pool
I did the wrong one.
elisha krauss
It's my bad though, because everybody always biffs my name and I was like, oh, it's Elisha Krauss, not Alisha Krauss.
And then I think that was right before I went on there.
tim pool
Oh, and I went, I went, I did the other wrong one.
elisha krauss
And you did the wrong one because I spoke it into being and then it was stuck in your head.
So I'm sorry about that.
tim pool
It's your fault that I said it wrong.
Not my fault.
unidentified
Don't look at me.
luke rudkowski
If Tim's gonna say it wrong, I'm definitely gonna say it wrong.
And it's not on purpose.
It's not my fault.
elisha krauss
You can call me E. Yeah, Krauss.
My husband calls me Elish.
Oh, that's cute.
tim pool
Elisha?
elisha krauss
No, we had this conversation.
tim pool
I know.
elisha krauss
So I don't know if he was just pulling my leg but when Ben and I did a morning show together he informed me that I have a Jewish dude's name and my parents are like we're non-denominational and I like you think that it's Elijah and Elijah in the Bible and Ben was like no it's Elijah and Elisha.
tim pool
And I literally just asked you, I was like, Krauss, right?
And then you were like, yeah.
And then I think you said, what do you say, Alicia Cross?
elisha krauss
I said, don't say Cross.
tim pool
And then I did.
I did it.
So who are you?
What do you do?
elisha krauss
Who am I?
What do I do?
I'm an out-of-work homeschool mom.
Yeah, I live in Los Angeles.
I'm a conservative commentator.
Hey, at least it's sunny.
It's dictatorial, but the weather's nice.
And I'm a political geek that's been doing this stuff in this world since I was 18.
I'm a grandma millennial.
I'm 35.
And yeah, I'm here in D.C.
area co-hosting at Newsmax this week.
So that's been fun.
unidentified
Cool.
tim pool
Right on.
Well, thanks for coming.
What do you want to talk about?
luke rudkowski
Well, thanks for having me as well.
My name is Luke Hradowski, and I think New Hampshire is one of the best, freest places in the world, next to Tehran, Mexico.
And that's why, hey, I made this t-shirt that says, Make America New Hampshire, which you can get exclusively on thebestpoliticalshirts.com.
And because you do, I'm here.
Thanks for having me.
I'm excited to have this conversation with someone's name that sounds like a Jewish dude.
Thanks so much for coming.
ian crossland
Yeah.
Hey, Ian Crossland here from iancrossland.net.
Happy to be here.
Glad you guys are here.
Thanks for coming.
lydia smith
I'm excited to be here as well, pushing buttons in the corner as I do, and I love my lady guests as always, so I'm excited for tonight as well.
elisha krauss
Yeah, we gotta balance out all the testosterone in this room.
lydia smith
Yeah, seriously, it's a struggle.
tim pool
Yeah, Luke's preparing a fight club or something?
luke rudkowski
I am, and we got professional kickboxer trainers in the house, so... Like a real... Fight club, like a legit fight club.
elisha krauss
Tonight?
tim pool
Professional.
luke rudkowski
Tomorrow.
elisha krauss
Oh, I was gonna say, I don't know that I can do that in my heels.
unidentified
I don't think you can do that yet.
tim pool
But I want to stress, like, actual trained people are coming to do a class and, like, teach people, right?
Is that what it is?
luke rudkowski
I mean, if you're going to have a fight club, the first rule is you can't talk about a fight club.
All right, all right, all right.
tim pool
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unidentified
I'm super excited for it.
elisha krauss
Oh my, your job's so hard.
You have to go watch Spider-Man.
tim pool
Well, it means I have to work, like, twice as much in the morning to make sure I can get there on time because we're doing an early showing so I can make it back for the IRL show.
elisha krauss
I'm still eye-rolling at you saying, oh, it's hard.
tim pool
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Like, I would be totally fine with bashing Ben Affleck today if y'all wanted to go down that route.
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People shout, let's go, Brandon, during Joe Biden's visit to Kentucky.
And there's a picture of Joe Brandon.
unidentified
I was gonna say Joe Brandon.
tim pool
Joe Brandon.
elisha krauss
Sorry, we just made you mess up on all the names tonight.
unidentified
I can't do it.
elisha krauss
It's like, once you've done one wrong, you're just gonna read the, it's fine.
luke rudkowski
Why are you redowsking so much, Tim?
unidentified
I don't know.
luke rudkowski
What's going on out here?
tim pool
Maybe, you know, maybe I just haven't had enough, you know, sugar or something.
I've had zero sugar today.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
All right, President Joe.
Biden was met with shouts of Let's Go Brandon and a Trump flag as he arrived in Kentucky on Wednesday to survey damage from a tornado that killed at least 88 people.
We know what Let's Go Brandon means, so they got videos and photos.
Two Let's Go Brandons from the crowd as Biden gets out.
After arriving in the state, Biden tweeted, I'm in Kentucky to meet with local leaders and to survey the damage from the tornadoes and extreme weather.
It will take all of us working together to recover and begin rebuilding, and we are committed to providing whatever support is needed for however long it takes.
Earlier in the day, Biden spoke with Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear and was briefed on the damage while in Mayfield.
Department of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas was also present.
And that's basically it.
That's the gist of the story, but I think this is an important story.
elisha krauss
Yeah, I feel like under the years of the former president, even like, I go back to, I'm a political nerd, so even back to like when Romney was running or McCain was running or when George W. Bush was in the White House.
I remember living on 34th Street in New York City and half a million people were like burning his effigies, right?
And it was like a news story of, look how mad they are at the Republican in office.
And, and like protesters, free speech.
Yay.
But it's also one sided.
Like here's two dudes, which, you know, two dudes ain't that many.
I feel like most of the people in Kentucky are probably Legitimately mourning and worried about their homes and their neighbors and the businesses in the area.
And what are they going to do with the rest of their lives?
And their priority isn't to go out there and yell, let's go, Brandon.
But kudos to the guys who did it and they have a right to do that.
And and so but you're not going to get coverage of this anywhere else because heaven forbid people who are against Joe Biden express their viewpoint.
tim pool
I think they have a right to say it.
I think it's important that people speak up, especially in the face of Joe Biden.
I think that's what makes America great.
The fact that Joe Biden can come down and you can yell, let's go, Brandon, is what's awesome about this country.
For sure.
Part of me is, though, like, man, I wish we could kind of just get, like, we have a major disaster here.
88 people died.
elisha krauss
Yeah.
tim pool
But Joe Biden is just, he's burning this country to the ground.
And I'm not going to blame him for the natural disaster.
But so many people are suffering in this country because of his failed leadership.
For someone to get that opportunity to be like, I am going to criticize you over everything we're dealing with.
Yeah, you got to do it.
elisha krauss
Even NPR, I think I was listening to NPR earlier today, and they were talking about how this area was already hard hit by the economy.
And then you have a tornado that comes through and levels the entire town.
tim pool
And this guy's going to do a photo op.
elisha krauss
And so I get the frustration of local people that are like, OK, now you're coming.
Now you're pretending to do something.
Now you're going to send us funds.
Now you're pretending to care when we've lost our factory jobs and we've done all this stuff.
And like this, quote unquote, return to normal that you promised hasn't happened.
luke rudkowski
Well, middle America has been, I think, most screwed over by the establishment, whether it was the opioid epidemic, whether it's even gas prices going up.
This predominantly affects people in rural areas like Kentucky, where they have to drive around.
They spend more on gas.
They spend more on energy and utilities.
But this is not a rare occurrence.
I still remember at the end of the Bush presidency, there was also an incident where he was out there surveying some kind of environmental damage.
And then people came up and screamed, F.U.
Bush!
They also did it to Dick Cheney, but his poll numbers are extremely down, and I think the few people who are supporting him are some cartel members, the Taliban, and a few billionaires that really make up the few percentage points of support that he gets.
tim pool
And China.
luke rudkowski
Yes.
Lots of China people as well.
tim pool
Good big fan.
Taking advantage right now.
He's meeting with Putin, and they're basically joining together because Biden is, you know what?
elisha krauss
He's sitting on his hands.
tim pool
Well, look, I don't want war in Ukraine.
I don't want war in Afghanistan.
But Joe Biden, wow, did he screw up Afghanistan.
And that's really when his poll numbers took a huge hit, because he is a failed leader.
I think with a lot of stuff, especially inflation, the reason people are mad at the establishment altogether, A lot of people are in these cities, and they can't see it.
They don't understand.
When the prices go up a little bit, they're not thinking about it, and it's incremental.
If every day you wake up, they add a nickel or whatever to the food, it's gonna take you a little while to be like, hey, wait a minute, why is the milk costing so much?
But when you get news story like, people are screaming and dying, and a bomb went off in Afghanistan, and the withdrawal was a huge disaster, all of a sudden, there's something tangible they can see there.
elisha krauss
I gotta say, though, I think for average Americans outside the Beltway, outside, you know, these liberal meccas where everybody's making a quarter of a million dollars a year and they're like STEM jobs, right?
That you have people like me that I go to the grocery store every week with my kids and that does affect us.
Fuel prices do affect us.
My parents live 30 miles from the closest grocery store.
You have people watching right now that, you know, have to commute maybe 50 miles to work
one day, one way.
And so those things, even though it is like incremental, they still feel that when they
look at their paycheck and they're like, well, that thousand bucks ain't going to go as far
this week.
And I think that that angst can continue into the midterms.
But I don't know.
Voters have short-term memory, and obviously his ratings are not good.
His polling numbers are not too hot, and I don't blame him.
unidentified
Abysmal.
elisha krauss
Absolutely abysmal.
They're so bad.
But I think that there's an element of, most of the time people vote with what affects them in that moment.
Voting is an emotional appeal, and typically liberals tend to do a better job at telling the story.
But the story that they're telling, the story that they're showing, and the story that they're governing right now is a total crap show, and I think it's going to really hurt them next year.
tim pool
What I think is absolutely crazy is that Biden's approval rating was as high as it was for as long as it was, especially compared to Trump.
When we got Donald Trump in office, the economy started doing better.
In 2019, I heard over and over again how good the economy was from news reports, from individuals.
When we were buying furniture for the first studio we built, the furniture sales lady was just like, 2019 was the greatest year of my life.
I can't believe how much money I made.
I'm so happy.
The guy who was doing the foundation work as we were expanding outside, he was like, Business is booming, and that was January of 2020.
And then what happened?
But take a look, what's really fascinating, we have this Joe Biden's Real Clear Politics poll average.
It's right around, it's Afghanistan, where he really got slammed.
And that's why it's fascinating to me that it was literally screwing up getting out of Afghanistan where things started to flip.
And I think what may have happened is that moment was a big slap in the face to a lot of people who are content to be like, Trump is gone, everything's fine now.
And then all of a sudden they were like, a bomb just went off and killed a bunch of people outside of the airport.
Bagram Air Force Base was abandoned.
elisha krauss
And I think left, right, or center, even like you said, okay, I didn't want to be in war in Afghanistan, you don't want to abandon our own people.
And there is, thank God, this beauty to America and our citizens that Whether you look like me or vote like me, I'm still not gonna, like, abandon you in another country.
And I'm not gonna leave you to die.
And I think that there has been this element of your commander-in-chief does not leave you behind.
There's, you know, all of the situations, like Reagan with the Iran hostages, you know, other situations of even Obama, who paid to get some people out of Iran, that, like, we don't leave our guys behind.
We don't leave our people behind.
And it was a wake-up call, and I think very shocking to a lot of Americans, like, Holy, wait, what?
This just happened and nobody's going to do anything about it?
And they're just pretending like it's no big deal?
tim pool
I was surprised the moment people didn't wake up was truing in on a shabbit of pressure.
unidentified
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
Well, the mainstream media pretty much got him into office.
They're supporting him throughout the way.
But now that you see the cracks in the facade that they kind of painted of him as this kind of Trump savior.
He's not a Trump savior.
What happened in Afghanistan was an absolute geopolitical failure that, of course, gave billions of dollars of weaponry to the Taliban.
And the retaliation against the attack on the base was ... literally killing 10 innocent civilians 7 of them children ... US aid workers that were providing water and just ... recently as of a few hours ago the Pentagon announced that ... they will be holding no one responsible for the butcher and ... assassination of innocent civilians in Afghanistan that ... the media and the Pentagon were telling us was Isis K members ... that were going to launch a preemptive strike on the ... embassy that wasn't true they were lying through their teeth.
And this is one reason why, again, Biden totally out of touch with reality.
He had to have a PR campaign disinformation group meeting with the corporate media in order to paint a positive picture on the economy.
And today, he even issued a statement saying, what's the big deal when talking about giving up freedoms in exchange for, of course, the vaccine mandates?
Totally out of touch, totally totalitarian.
To me, he's a puppet that many special interests are using to push very unpopular policies on the American The more dictatorial he is, the clearer he speaks.
tim pool
when he said to give up your freedom?
luke rudkowski
Nope.
unidentified
Come on man, give up your freedom, what's the big deal?
luke rudkowski
He actually spoke clearly.
He actually made coherent sentences.
And he was like, what's the big deal guys?
elisha krauss
The more dictatorial he is, the clearer he speaks.
I'm old enough to remember, my background has been talk radio,
and I produced the Hannity Radio Show for seven years.
And I remember there was a time where it was like, Hugh Hewitt might've been Dennis Prager,
Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, like the OGs of conservative radio,
met with George W. Bush in his second term.
And it might have been a time when his poll numbers were down.
And there was like all of these mainstream media reports once the meeting was leaked of, oh, look, White House conspires with far-right media, da, da, da, da, and like try to boost the president's poll numbers.
But yet you have, like you said, not just not just, you know, the Young Turks and like crazy leftist organizations that claim to be unbiased media outlets going and talking to people in the White House communications team.
You have members of the mainstream media outlets that pretend to be.
Fair and balanced journalists that are doing this and like, where is the outrage?
I think the double standard is what really gets to me.
tim pool
There's two things I'll add.
First is, there was a CNN producer who was arrested for trafficking kids and Brian Stelter's on Twitter like, why won't the Fox hosts talk about the text messages?
And it's like, they did.
Well, it was 24 hours later and it's like, when are you going to talk about the producer?
Chris Cuomo's producer who worked with Chris Cuomo.
luke rudkowski
Or even the CIA scandal where they caught their own agents doing some of those same similar actions.
But MSNBC, ABC News, CBS, NBC all ignored this major CNN producer.
tim pool
But I gotta add one more thing too about what happened in Afghanistan.
I'll tell you where I think I wish more Americans would give Biden a lower rating.
Is when he, what did he do?
He issued a drone strike which killed 10 civilians?
luke rudkowski
Was it 10?
10 civilians, 7 children, and it was an aid worker that was providing clean water to the Afghani people.
tim pool
And how many of the, is anybody involved going to be, I don't know, maybe indicted, go to prison?
luke rudkowski
The Pentagon just announced no one will be held responsible for this action.
tim pool
So Joe Biden, following his predecessor, Barack Obama, kills children. Now I'm not going to give Trump an escape
on this one. The difference is with with Barack Obama, we know definitively that he killed
Abdul Rahman al-Awlaki in a drone strike in Yemen. We know definitively that Joe Biden's
administration, they issued this drone strike.
When it comes to Donald Trump and the death of Abdul Rahman's little sister, this is a
commando raid in Yemen. It's speculated that she died. It's So it's still bad.
And I don't want to give Trump any free passes on his drone strikes or his commando raids and the stuff he did.
But I'm also going to say Donald Trump also moved to withdraw from Afghanistan and Syria and didn't start any new wars.
And I'll take what I can get.
Criticism where criticism is due.
Praise where praise is due.
Joe Biden, I knew this was going to happen.
You get him in office and he was going to restart the war machine the same we saw in the years prior.
elisha krauss
Well, and I think that we all kind of expected that in 2016, had it been Hillary Clinton who won.
And I think that that's why you saw people, specifically like those Rust Belt people, where Hillary didn't spend any money, you know, that decided to vote for Trump because it was a breath of fresh air and people were weary.
As someone who knows and loves many members of the military, I don't know the details of that commando thing and I've never been on the ground with a gun to my head and having to kill bad guys and unfortunately there is a cost-benefit analysis to every single decision that you make as commander-in-chief, right?
Like if you actually, it is kind of fascinating to go back and look at the Obama decision to go get in Bin Laden and how the guys in the room all had different percentages of what they thought the likelihood of one, Bin Laden actually being there and then two, it being like a no-fault operation.
And that risk is extremely high, and that's part of their job.
But yeah, I do appreciate the consistency that you have there.
luke rudkowski
It's just also, once again, the media would be blowing up everything had an aid worker been killed in a drone strike by But just really quick, there wasn't a lot of consistency with the official story of what Obama did to Osama, and then the raid that Donald Trump committed that allegedly killed al-Nawalki's sister was literally the raid that Obama didn't want to do, but Donald Trump personally called off on, and there was civilian casualties according to many independent reports.
tim pool
I'll say this though, that was really early in Trump's administration.
Trump switched to getting American personnel out and upping drone strikes.
I'm not a big fan of that necessarily, but I suppose it's like, what do you do, right?
You say we don't want ground conflict, so to secure certain areas you need drones.
Donald Trump tried getting us out of Syria and he was lied to by whatever you want to call these people.
The bureaucratic state, how about that?
The administrative state.
They lied to the American people and to Donald Trump to make sure that we kept troops in Syria when he and the American people don't want these wars.
So I will give him credit for that.
And I will say this.
Speaking of Hillary Clinton.
luke rudkowski
We're just really quick.
Also, I want to add that Donald Trump made sure that the list of people that were assassinated by the drone strikes was kept secret away from the general public.
Obama at least executed people, kept the list.
Let's be honest with each other.
But Trump also took away the decision for him personally calling off on these assassinations and gave it to the Pentagon as well.
So I think that's an important factor to understand here.
And I wish he would have pulled troops out correctly out of Afghanistan.
elisha krauss
You mean like you want the transparency of it?
luke rudkowski
Yes, exactly.
And reporting.
Like, if you're going to kill a 15-year-old American citizen, which Obama did, and his spokesperson told me, and we are Change Reporters, that they should have had a better father, at least be open and transparent about it.
tim pool
That was massive.
That was back, what, 2012?
luke rudkowski
Yep, that was during the presidential election.
tim pool
Luke was on the ground during the election campaign, and you went up to, I think, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and who was it, Charlie Gibbs?
luke rudkowski
Yes, Charlie Gibbs and Obama's chief of staff and spokesperson, and I asked him exactly, why did your administration personally call off on the assassination of a 15-year-old American citizen?
tim pool
Not call off, sign on for.
luke rudkowski
Signed off on the assassination of a 15-year-old American citizen.
And the response I got by Mr. Gibbs was, he should have had a better father.
tim pool
This was an American citizen.
elisha krauss
How did I forget that story?
tim pool
But that's not just Obama.
Of course he was the president, but that's Biden too.
Biden was very deeply involved in the Iraq operation.
elisha krauss
Oh, he likes to... It's funny how... Remember Bin Laden's dead, Detroit's alive?
unidentified
I don't know.
elisha krauss
You been to Detroit lately?
Like he very much liked to marry himself to all of the wins of the Obama administration.
I think mainly to appeal to black voters and not marry himself to any of the failures of the Obama administration, of which there are many.
tim pool
Well, this has been an abysmal, abysmal administration, and it's not even been a full year.
So we're already getting this.
Check this out.
We're already getting rumors that Joe Biden is not going to be running in 2024.
So who do you think it might be?
Hillary Clinton.
The Daily Mail reports, Clinton's belief that the presidency is her birthright and deep unpopularity of Biden and Harris could see the former first lady run in 2024, Politics Insider warns, and I do not disagree.
I don't know if I believe she would.
Because she is deeply unpopular herself.
But she came out recently and she was like, here's the speech I would have given if I had won.
elisha krauss
Could you just give me a second to rant about that, by the way?
When on God's green earth has anyone lost as much as Hillary Clinton and been given so much time to talk about all the things that she wanted to do or would have done had she won?
Like, Democrats in general fail up, like Pete Buttigieg, anybody?
But I am just fascinated by the fact that we keep giving this, like, what was she on the Today Show or something?
Like, it was a legitimate mainstream media show with millions of viewers where, like, she's given a primetime A-block slot to talk about, here's the speech I would have given.
Okay, here's the speech I would have given had I been born Gisele Bundchen.
Had I gotten an Oscar, here's the speech I would have given.
tim pool
Isn't she doing a master class or something?
luke rudkowski
Yes!
elisha krauss
On losing?
tim pool
Right now my favorite joke I saw was someone said, what's the master class gonna be?
Pointing out Wisconsin on a map?
That's the one she would need.
elisha krauss
Standing by your man.
luke rudkowski
Having great relationships.
Winning elections.
tim pool
Well, now let's be real.
Those are things she was all really bad at, but she could.
elisha krauss
But the media pretends that she is good at all of those things.
They give her the opportunity to give that dumb speech because
they feel like she should have given that speech, and they also are signed on to it being her butt, right?
tim pool
Yes, yes, yes.
But as much as many people don't like Hillary Clinton, and I'm not a fan, I think we absolutely need to recognize
what she is really, really good at, the things she's done really well, like running the Clinton Foundation while she
was running the State Department, and taking donations from foreign governments to large sums.
And then all of a sudden, when she was no longer a contender for the presidency or in the White House, those donations
started to dry up.
luke rudkowski
I got another one.
I just got one really quick one.
Making sure that her husband goes on the Epstein's Island?
She's very good at that.
elisha krauss
By the way, the Maxwell trial, I follow all the conspiracy theorists on the gram about that.
But yeah, she's also really good at just signing on Hollywood money and Hollywood celebrities and going and partying and stuff.
luke rudkowski
She's great being connected to Harvey Weinstein as well.
elisha krauss
Yeah, yeah.
luke rudkowski
She knows how to pick them.
tim pool
Did you see that?
You saw the video of her crying, right?
It was the weirdest not cry, like fake crying.
I'm sorry.
They came out and, you know, everyone ragged on Kyle Rittenhouse saying crocodile tears.
And I'm like, the dude's having a panic attack or anything.
elisha krauss
That was PTSD.
That kid needs to be, I will say this.
tim pool
He's getting therapy.
elisha krauss
OK, thank you.
Because I, the mom in me is like, stop doing interviews, start doing therapy.
tim pool
He is.
That was in the trial.
elisha krauss
Because you are young and in 10 years, It's gonna hit you.
You need to take a beat.
tim pool
I feel like someone should have told that to Hillary when she was much younger.
Because something is wrong with her.
Something from a very young age.
elisha krauss
So did your mom ever tell you, like, Tim, you can be whatever you want to be.
Like, there's moms, like, they are unconditional.
They're amazing.
They encourage you.
So did my mom.
She's probably watching right now.
Hey, Mom.
And like, Alicia, you can be anything you want to be.
But it's like, did Hillary's mom do that to the nth degree?
lydia smith
Yeah, too much.
elisha krauss
Like, just too much?
Like, was it weirdly indoctrinated?
Like, did she have goggles on that it was, like, fed to her, like in Zoolander?
Like, this is what you will do.
This is what you will do.
And that's why she legitimately thinks it's her birthday?
tim pool
I don't think so.
ian crossland
Bill probably brainwashed her to think she's the one.
tim pool
The reason I don't think so is because her mom has a goat's head and, you know, hoven feet and claws and, you know, created her out of a pentagram and summoned her from the depths.
And probably just, you know, intent was inherent within the demonic presence.
luke rudkowski
I was going to say something similar.
MKUltra.
I think that's also a possibility.
But who knows.
ian crossland
It's her time.
luke rudkowski
Exactly.
tim pool
She's just an insane person.
You know, she's a sociopath.
elisha krauss
Narcissistic.
luke rudkowski
Yes.
tim pool
Yeah.
Ego, narcissism.
elisha krauss
I think actually left right or center.
I think in order to be, honestly, I think most people in our industry, so politicians and anybody on a microphone is typically narcissistic.
luke rudkowski
She's on record celebrating death and murder and torture.
She's like, yeah, that was great.
tim pool
Remember when she said she wanted to drone Julian Assange?
Can't we just drone this guy?
And then she was like, it was a joke, I swear.
elisha krauss
Yeah, but when McCain said, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, I ran, in a Q&A in 2008, people were like, what?
Warmonger.
Neocon.
tim pool
So is it, yeah?
You think Hillary's gonna run?
She's gonna run?
I don't know.
I kind of would be excited for it.
luke rudkowski
The Hill.
elisha krauss
Because she would lose miserably.
tim pool
Trump would just win again.
luke rudkowski
There's going to be a glitch in the Matrix where we wake up and as soon as election season starts, we're back in 2016, we don't know what happened, and it's Hillary versus Trump again.
It's like, what?
tim pool
No, it's Ian waking up and he was coming out of a DMT trip.
ian crossland
I remember the moment I woke up and saw Trump won, and I felt like the wind was knocked out of me.
unidentified
What did I drink?
luke rudkowski
I was in Times Square and you could hear a pin drop and all the people that went there to celebrate were all quiet.
There was like five Trump supporters and you could see five guys and everyone just giving them the stink eye and I was there filming it like this is absolutely crazy and incredible at the same time.
elisha krauss
Was it the crying meme?
luke rudkowski
Yes, filled with people in Times Square.
People shocked, jaws on the floor, walking around aimlessly, lost like zombies, not knowing what just hit them.
And they're watching all the news like, what?
In total, it was something to experience.
It was amazing.
tim pool
It's a night I will never forget.
When I watched the New York Times probability meter, it said, Greater than 99% chance Hillary Clinton and then it slowly went down.
I remember when it hit 50% and I was just I was laughing.
I was in the Sputnik office and everyone there was like people were starting to cry because they were all Democrats and then it shifts and then I remember when it was like Trump is cannot lose at this point.
Cassandra Fairbanks is there.
She's laughing.
She went from crying to laughing to crying again because it was like sad crying and then like in the denial.
elisha krauss
I do have to say so I'm a home birth hippie and I like went to this unfortunately COVID closed down my liberal friends yoga studio and it was like women only so I really liked it because I feel like we were doing yoga in front of dudes and um and there were a lot of women in like the full women health yoga class like the next day that were like I'm just here for the peace and I did all of my essential oils and all of my touch points Chunk Uyghur freaking out during his live stream.
It was hilarious.
luke rudkowski
It was crazy.
elisha krauss
I'm just sitting there like, guys, okay.
They're like, hey, Alicia, what's stressing you today?
And I'm like, oh, you guys.
tim pool
What I find funny, too, is like my response to the election with Joe Biden was I was like, there it is.
The count is in.
Joe Biden, you know, is projected to be the winner.
And then they got mad at me for that.
Like the liberals were like, ha ha, you're a loser.
And I'm like, I just was like, yeah, he won.
I don't know.
elisha krauss
You stated truth.
Truth that they denied.
tim pool
Trump supporters got mad at me, you know, when I said that.
But I'm just like, it is what it is.
I don't know.
What am I supposed to do about it?
And they were like, ha ha, you're a loser.
You voted for Trump and you lost.
And I was like, yeah.
elisha krauss
It's also, I do have to say, and I was reading something the other day, as a mom, and I think like it's good for society in general, like we have to learn how to lose.
Like you have to be a good, you have to be decent at losing to understand the importance of winning.
And I think that if you don't learn that, like Hillary didn't.
tim pool
Shut up, dude!
elisha krauss
Just shut up, lady!
You're not being graceful, and you're not being dignified, and you're not doing the country any good.
And if you want to run for President of the United States, you're allegedly supposed to care about country first.
It's clearly not about country first with her.
luke rudkowski
But it's going to be okay, because a lot of women are going to learn how to lose in sports, especially all across the United States.
elisha krauss
Oh, we already are, because of our fellow women.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
Well, man, it's crazy to me.
It's been six and a half years.
So good.
I'm like sitting there watching Hillary Clinton announcing she's going to run.
unidentified
Oh!
tim pool
And then the 2016 election cycle when she's debating Trump was one of the
funniest things ever.
That you know the things because you'd be in jail.
It's like man Mike drop moments.
People are cheering.
They're treating it like WWE.
elisha krauss
The debates were definitely more entertaining.
I used all the gifs in my tweets from the debates.
tim pool
The debates are never fun or funny.
But Donald Trump, he brought that.
elisha krauss
So I actually had this conversation the other day with somebody.
Trump also brought I think like the cable newsification to politics like I've often said that the Trump family is like the Royals meet the Kardashians because because like that is the kind of cultural phenomenon that they are and that he kind of had a thing like they had hair and makeup people in the White House for anyone in their administration that went on camera he kind of got that the visual and the story it mattered and that's why Hollywood is all about leftism for a few other things too but
Because it's like they are turned to and have been turned to for decades to create the narrative and to create the story to help Democrats win.
And Republicans have often failed at like the emotion and the story of things.
lydia smith
Well, this is something that Andrew Klavan talks a lot about.
He talks about how conservatives are so bad at turning the story in their favor.
We don't understand the importance of the arts.
We don't understand the importance of movies or books or anything like that.
And that's part of the reason that we're losing the culture war.
This is something that the left has such a grasp on.
I don't know why we're so bad at it but we're terrible.
elisha krauss
I think that for a really long time we have fled because we thought that we couldn't win there so then we flee.
I mean we see it happening now with COVID right?
lydia smith
Self-fulfilling prophecy.
elisha krauss
That people just they run away they go to the ease of things instead of like putting down roots and fighting and being the odd man out.
tim pool
Trump a lot of people think Trump's gonna run right?
Yeah, we know we've even talked to Steve Bannon's like he's running it's gonna happen and some of his former administration and I certainly think so.
I think he's been rallying.
He's been losing weight, I guess But I mean he's gonna be up there, too I mean he's gonna be he's gonna be as old as Joe Biden was when Joe Biden ran So he'll be like the second oldest president ever and he didn't have that line against Biden about how Biden was too old and yeah Trump is spry Yeah, I've heard that about him.
luke rudkowski
One criticism that I'm seeing a lot of him, especially when he goes on Fox News, is that he's actually supporting Big Pharma more than his supporters.
I've seen a lot of criticism of him, especially with a lot of the mandates that he criticizes a little bit, but he still promotes overall.
elisha krauss
Well, he considered a mandate.
I thought early in COVID he was like oh yeah well we should we should have like a incentive and we should make sure that everybody gets the vaccine.
luke rudkowski
There's also a lot of criticism from his base of people saying that he just didn't stand up for his supporters for his people and that there's a huge kind of disconnect between a lot of people who are not really satisfied with that administration as well that needs to be brought up.
elisha krauss
I think that the number one, um, well, I don't know.
I look at 2024 and I'm like, let's just run DeSantis.
Then we can have a really fun, like, lottery of who we gonna choose for VP.
And then just, like, destroy any of the, what was it, 11 different Democrats?
And all of the Democrats that the mainstream media is floating, all of the names are awful.
And they're all losers.
Once again, Democrats fail up.
tim pool
None of these people have the it factor.
elisha krauss
Who is, who, Amy Klobuchar, okay.
unidentified
Okay.
ian crossland
OK.
luke rudkowski
DeSantis has a lot of good energy behind him.
tim pool
He does.
elisha krauss
Yes.
And so I'm just saying, like, I would love it.
I would love it if if people like any other like Republican that's thinking of running anybody like Abbott, anybody else under the sun, just I love you guys.
You're great.
Keep keep governing well in your states.
Let's just give it to DeSantis and then we can have one of you great people as VP and then we can destroy any of these idiots on this list.
tim pool
I think DeSantis is a better option, although he is more of a traditional Republican in a lot of ways.
elisha krauss
Yes.
tim pool
So for me, you know, we'll see.
It's going to be about what's in the forefront of his administration.
And I'm still kind of skeptical.
Trump, I didn't vote for the first time.
After seeing what he was doing, I was like, this guy's a bull in a china shop.
He's saying no to the establishment.
DeSantis, however, I think has proven himself, especially with COVID.
elisha krauss
So if he were to run, I got to say, too, I'm really impressed with a lot of these AGs on the state level.
lydia smith
Yeah.
elisha krauss
Like a lot of these attorney generals, like in Oklahoma, for example, they're kind of like, oh, you can't mandate our National Guard to have the jab because it turns out we're in charge of the National Guard, not the DOD.
So there you go.
And I'm pretty impressed with a lot of these AGs on some state levels, and maybe they'll end up in the Senate or something one day, that'd be nice.
tim pool
Let's talk about what Ron DeSantis is doing, and one of the things that I would really, really support him over, and this is from the Washington Post.
DeSantis invokes MLK as he proposes Stop Woke Act against critical race theory.
I'm a fan, they say.
As Florida Governor Ron DeSantis was introducing proposed legislation that would allow parents to sue schools teaching critical race theory in the classroom, he invoked the words of Reverend Martin Luther King Jr.
to try and make his point about the Stop Woke Act and the escalating conflict over the teaching of race.
You see how they did it?
Teaching of race.
Yeah, okay, nice try.
Quote, you think about what MLK stood for.
He said he didn't want people judged on the color of their skin, but on the content of their character.
DeSanta said, you listen to some of these people nowadays, they don't talk about that.
So I tell you this, the one thing I always ask my liberal friends, I say something very, very simple to them.
I say, do you support the message of Dr. King?
elisha krauss
You know, they all say it.
tim pool
Oh, of course, absolutely.
And then I'll say, what about segregating these classrooms on the basis of race is in line with judging people on the content of their character, not the color of their skin?
And for a lot of people, there's a cognitive dissonance.
They get angry because they're very tribalist.
elisha krauss
Well, because it's not fair.
It's like the instant reaction.
tim pool
Well, they say colorblind society is wrong, and I'm like, so you don't agree with Dr. King.
What Ron DeSantis is doing is what I wanted Trump to be doing.
The left establishment lies about what critical race theory is to try and inject this into our society.
Joe Biden gets rid of Trump's executive order, bans on critical race theory training, and the leftists who are in many ways populists, many of them aren't, support this because this is a precursor to a form of communism or a path towards chaos and destruction that can bring that about.
elisha krauss
Yes.
luke rudkowski
I think if MLK was alive today, this might be a little bit hyperbolic, but I think he would be villainized and slandered by the corporate media.
I think he would be shadow banned.
I think he would be banned on big tech social media.
elisha krauss
I hate to use this phrase, so I will put quotes around it, but he would be called by liberals Uncle Tom.
tim pool
Or a white supremacist.
luke rudkowski
Well, we have seen people who use his words literally be called that.
elisha krauss
But look at how they treat any member of a group, whether you are a woman.
Like myself.
Well I can't, they're yes all woman until it comes to a woman like me.
unidentified
Right.
elisha krauss
Or they are for minorities unless you happen to be Ben Carson or Alan West or Condoleezza Rice.
Candace Owens.
Or you know, they're for the LGBTQ people unless you're Dave Rubin.
Like it's everything has like a stop point for them because it is the ideology and the agenda.
unidentified
Was MLK anti-LGBTQ?
tim pool
I'm not sure but I was reading something but I'm not entirely sure.
luke rudkowski
The FBI had a lot of dirt on him showing that he had extramarital affairs that they were using against him.
They literally sent evidence of that to his wife when he was in prison as the FBI was sending MLK letters telling him to kill himself in prison as they were extorting him politically with these larger bigger truths that they got on him after spying on him.
He was a part of the church and he was preaching that kind of church lifestyle.
He was a reverend.
elisha krauss
I love how like if you believe in the biblical definition of marriage like I myself do that now that's just like dubbed anti-gay.
luke rudkowski
Yeah and he did have extramarital affairs and because of that the FBI that was spying on him got that information and was literally trying to use it so he would kill himself.
That's the history of the FBI, the institution that now has all of Epstein's secret files and videotapes and photos of politicians.
elisha krauss
I will totally talk conspiracy theories.
tim pool
Okay, so I think that's not true.
I think that's not true.
I want to make sure that's clear.
luke rudkowski
But he was a member of the church and he preached a lot in church.
And he was also, let's be fair, he was also attacked by the corporate media back then.
He wasn't seen as someone who was extremely popular.
Only after he died was he seen as someone who was popular and then kind of became more popular by the day.
elisha krauss
That's typically most leaders, right?
And I think that from an evangelical background, I think the beauty of actual history and the beauty of religious history is that it shows the innate sin that we were all born into and how nobody is perfect.
I was homeschooled all 12 years.
I'm now a homeschool mom to an 8, 4, and 2-year-old.
and uh it's fascinating to me that right around the time the CRT stuff started coming up I was reading about like turn of the century post-civil war like post-oppression era pre-civil rights movement um Americans with my now eight-year-old like Roll of Thunder Hear My Cry is her favorite book.
lydia smith
It's a great book.
elisha krauss
And I'm like, this is stuff that I learned, like I learned real American history, the good, the bad and the ugly.
You know who hasn't been learning it for the last 30 years?
Kids in public schools.
Why are they not learning it?
Because of lazy teachers unions that I could go after.
And so it's fascinating to me that people just have this thing where they assume that everyone is supposed to be perfect.
And I think really the problem boils down to politically, culturally, pop culturally, whatever.
People just put people on a pedestal that should not be there.
tim pool
I think this issue is right for Ron DeSantis to tackle it this way.
Donald Trump did the critical race theory ban, but they didn't call it that.
They used very specific language.
And what's fascinating, when Donald Trump issued the executive order banning these trainings, he was following existing law.
The 1964 Civil Rights Act says you cannot discriminate on the basis of race as one of its, you know, one of its many titles.
And what was happening at these government contractors was they were having whiteness training, like anti-whiteness trainings.
And there was one, I think it was the nuclear laboratory, I'm not sure which one.
elisha krauss
Because that's super duper important, by the way, like when you're working around nukes.
tim pool
So this is Christopher Ruppo and all this stuff.
ian crossland
Yeah, like on the atomic scale, race matters, right?
tim pool
And they made the white men go to, like, some retreat to learn about, like, you can't do that.
That violates the law.
So Trump comes out and says, hey, guys, this breaks the law, don't do it.
Joe Biden comes in and says, come on, man, break the law.
And he just undoes the executive order.
And I'm like, this is insanity.
So Ron DeSantis is stepping up with this.
We'll see if he does end up running.
It's tough to say.
I mean, if Trump ends up running, do you think DeSantis would actually run against him?
elisha krauss
I do.
tim pool
You do?
elisha krauss
I do.
tim pool
I would support DeSantis over Trump.
luke rudkowski
I think it's DeSantis' only chance.
If he doesn't run, that's going to be where a lot of people aren't going to be following him and supporting him after that, because this is his only chance, really.
elisha krauss
And honestly, like Trump can only blame the state so much for the early COVID policy that he implemented.
So anybody, any Republican or Independent or even Democrat who runs against him can literally look at all of the edicts that he had.
luke rudkowski
Two weeks to slow the spread, Dr. Fauci.
elisha krauss
Exactly.
tim pool
And Ron DeSantis would be standing next to Donald Trump on a debate stage and he would say, you know, with all due respect, Mr. President, for the good work you did, I would have fired Fauci on day one.
elisha krauss
Exactly.
tim pool
And everyone's gonna go, what?
elisha krauss
Yeah, and that's any Republican that runs against Trump, that's all they have to say, is why did you keep Fauci in?
You were knocking him, but you had the authority to get rid of him.
Why didn't you do that?
tim pool
He wouldn't do it.
I think it was, was it Kushner, I think?
Yeah, I can't remember who we were talking to.
They were like, he was advised not to do it.
elisha krauss
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, he was advised to keep him around.
He's too popular.
You got to keep him.
luke rudkowski
There was four horsemen of the White House that Peter Navarro was telling us.
I don't know if this was on the after segment or during the time that he was on, but he talked about four individuals that were telling him to keep Fauci there and that it would be better for Trump to keep him.
tim pool
What a mistake.
But we gotta see what Ron DeSantis is willing to do in other areas.
Wokeness is not a reason for me to solely support somebody.
elisha krauss
Yeah.
But I will say- Or mandates, or yeah.
tim pool
But I gotta admit, when it comes to COVID, I would love, I remember back when I was telling you about how 2019, it was so great.
Man, do you guys remember what life was like before the start of the pandemic?
unidentified
Yep.
elisha krauss
It was amazing.
I could actually go speak on college campuses and have real-life protesters.
tim pool
We took it for granted.
luke rudkowski
Flying all over the world, just checking out crazy protests.
tim pool
But Florida is still like that.
elisha krauss
Yeah, Florida is normal.
tim pool
Yeah, Texas for the most part is as well.
elisha krauss
By the way, my time in D.C., surprisingly, I've not, uh, I put on a mask in an Uber once and only because the driver asked me and I respect that when they ask.
I don't even know what my rating is because I just get into Ubers all the time on masks.
Less masking in D.C.
than L.A.
ian crossland
What's the, um, what's the, uh, the courtesy with masks in Uber?
Do you get an unmasked and only mask up if they ask?
Or do you get in with the mask on?
elisha krauss
Yeah, I lie.
I tell a little lie when I, it's like, do you have a mask?
I'm like, well, I have a mask, but I'm not wearing a mask.
Because you have to check that button before you can order.
lydia smith
I literally have it.
tim pool
You, uh, you have to wear three masks.
And then when you get in, you can ask the driver how many you're allowed to take off.
And if he tells you to wear ten, you have to.
ian crossland
May I disrobe, sir?
luke rudkowski
Grace your presence with my face.
ian crossland
Allow me to reveal myself.
elisha krauss
I've never asked that question.
ian crossland
I was asked if I wanted to take it off.
So I was like, yeah.
unidentified
He's like, want to get off and turn the music up.
elisha krauss
I was like, yeah, it's a little Marvin Gaye.
ian crossland
Yeah, Texas.
unidentified
Hey, there you want to take that mask off.
luke rudkowski
Let me see what you're working on.
elisha krauss
I am very glad.
I don't know who here is in relationships or not, but I've been married for 12 years and I'm so grateful that I found my husband and got married young because I could not date today.
But then I talk to friends or read random threads and stuff online about people that date and there was this one girl, she was like, yeah, we were having something training at the bar where I work and this guy, he was tall, he was fit, he had a good voice, asked me out and then they went out After work, and where they could take off their masks, and she was like, he was better with the mask on.
lydia smith
Oh no!
tim pool
Take a look at this.
Take a look at this.
unidentified
This video went viral before.
elisha krauss
Dating in 2021?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, let me see if I can... That guy's the epitome of high testosterone.
lydia smith
Look at that face.
tim pool
So it's clear that this guy's wife or significant other wants to wear... they're wearing these big plastic tubes.
elisha krauss
But they're holding hands.
luke rudkowski
They're like dogs.
elisha krauss
And what is the purpose?
Like after a dog gets, you know what?
That's what he is.
tim pool
Okay, so I just gotta explain it to people.
People who can't see it, who are just listening.
There is a woman and a man.
This is a report, I think it's from RT.
And the woman is happy.
She's showing off that she's wearing a dog cone.
It's effectively a dog cone.
But the guy's face is just, he's like... He's literally muted.
ian crossland
It's one of those smiles where you just crunch your jaw.
elisha krauss
That's like a live shot of me anytime Gavin Newsom says that he's extending the mask mandate.
I'm like...
tim pool
This guy, man.
I'm just like, bro.
elisha krauss
By the way, she's way too pretty for him.
tim pool
And he knows it.
That's why he's doing it.
Watch this.
She's twirling.
unidentified
What are you, Cinderella?
tim pool
And then look at that, taking pictures.
And then look at the guy's face.
luke rudkowski
She's not too pretty for him.
tim pool
She's miserable.
luke rudkowski
She's too crazy for him.
ian crossland
That's what they call a smile when you're not happy.
tim pool
I gotta tell this, guys.
I think this is in Europe, but I just want to tell this man, my friend.
Florida is a real place.
They'll be like, no, don't.
So is it true?
elisha krauss
Florida's not real.
luke rudkowski
Last year when I left the show, the first day I got into Florida, they had a mask burning at the beach and huge parties down in Fort Lauderdale.
And I went down there and I literally didn't even unpack my RV.
I was like, I need to see this.
I need to see what's going on here.
Huge parties.
Huge clubs, huge bars, everyone's partying and there's like hundreds of people on the beach and they're all just taking their masks, literally burning them on fire, being like, we're not going to comply with this absolute nonsense here.
elisha krauss
You can't do that in California because then you're like contributing to the bad environment.
I feel like telling that guy, like some people have low T because of age.
You have low T because of that thing that you're wearing around your neck.
tim pool
So I want to just, I'll bring it back to Ronda Santas.
And that, that humor is exactly why I'm like, that to me is, is leadership.
elisha krauss
We also have to like he has been under fire for a year and a half now almost two years.
I cannot believe this but like in March we will be at the two-year mark from when all this craziness began and he has been consistent.
He has not kowtowed.
He has not given up.
They haven't found anything on him as much as they have tried and I think that he has handled it really brilliantly.
I'm a fan.
luke rudkowski
Well, the corporate media said that he was going to be the butcher of Florida, that there's going to be a bloodbath, that bodies were going to be piling on top of bodies because of his COVID policies.
Though that was because of his elderly home policy.
But the amount of criticism that he was able to withstand from the national media attacking him is noteworthy.
And, um, it's really going to be interesting to see him tee off against Trump, which I think is going to happen.
elisha krauss
No one else run, but it's going to happen.
luke rudkowski
They're going to fight each other.
It's going to get, it's going to get nasty.
ian crossland
They got a WWE it up.
The two of them together should coordinate no matter who wins and make it the biggest spectacle on earth.
Just a Florida, the hot Florida action nonstop.
luke rudkowski
Ego's going to tell Sorry, that sounded like a Spring Break tease.
ian crossland
Otherwise, the corporate media is going to overtake them and pump their candidate and put Hillary in.
I mean, they have to work together.
Otherwise, they're just going to get smeared and stomped on.
elisha krauss
But here's the beauty, though, of new media.
Like, here's the beauty of what you guys do.
Like, the beauty of my phone that I can go to.
And people have the ability.
Like, it isn't just the two fours and sevens anymore.
Right?
It's not the three channels where you get all of your information that my parents or my grandparents thought.
unidentified
Four!
ian crossland
We had three, five, and eight.
tim pool
Yeah, we had two, five, nine, 32.
elisha krauss
It's like four was always Fox, seven was always ABC.
Okay.
ian crossland
Five was ABC for us.
tim pool
In Chicago, two was CBS, five was NBC, nine was WGN, and Fox was 32.
elisha krauss
Oh man, WGN.
tim pool
Yeah, WGN, Fox 32.
Back in the day.
So, so look, look, I wanna explain why, um, we have another story I wanna talk about.
Why DeSantis approaching this woke stuff is so important.
We have this story here from Daily Mail.
This is an ongoing saga about a transgender swimmer demolishing female records.
The Daily Mail reports, exclusive, the integrity of women's sports is at stake.
Distressed parents of U Penn swimmers penned poignant letter demanding the NCAA change rules that have permitted transgender athlete Leah Thomas to dominate the competition.
elisha krauss
Good for those parents.
tim pool
Good for those parents especially.
So I think the issue right here, right now, I don't take issue with, on the surface, with Leah Thomas competing because the rules were set and people did not participate in the rule changes or what was going on.
elisha krauss
But were they even aware?
That's their fault.
unidentified
Yep.
elisha krauss
I don't know, though.
Like, I understand what you're saying, and as somebody who's super duper involved, there's still stuff that's happening that, like, that I'm unaware of, and I'm a political nerd that's, like, in stuff all the time.
tim pool
How many years have we been talking about this?
elisha krauss
Yeah, but do you think that these UPenn parents listened to you?
tim pool
Some of them.
elisha krauss
Maybe.
You can't assume that.
I think it is a wrong assumption to take that the average parent who is working two jobs to send their kid to UPenn Is really aware of oh, hey the NCAA changed rules. That's
interesting You know that the left is so good at sneaking this
tim pool
in Sure sure, that's the besides the point look if you were a
parent and you are dedicating you are you were talking about the lives
Of your children and you are like I'm gonna send you to a school and I don't know what the rules are
I don't know when the meetings are I don't know the rule changes are happening. Then I feel like you are being but
elisha krauss
But these weren't UPenn changes, these were NCAA changes.
I need to find this out because I would be curious to know, was it public and no?
Stuff like this happens in darkness.
tim pool
And there was a dude there.
Uh-huh.
The moment they went into that swim meet or whatever that race and there was a dude there
And they said nope nope nope nope nope we're not doing this what's going on and they didn't they said just compete
anyway And these female swimmers are not standing up and speaking
out They're just giving anonymous comments if you're not gonna
stand up for yourself if you're not gonna speak out about this
And if you are a parent who doesn't know look when it comes to the NCAA we're talking about your child's future
We're talking about how you have been Coaching your child and putting them in a program to make
them the best of the best in whatever sport they're engaged in and you
Don't know about what's going on I'm sorry, after how many years has it been that we've been having these conversations, you still don't know?
Negligence.
ian crossland
But at this point, they're adults now, these students.
They're not the parents' responsibility anymore.
I think that's true.
elisha krauss
But it's the parents' dollars, right?
tim pool
Maybe.
elisha krauss
And maybe in this condition.
luke rudkowski
Unless they took out a loan.
tim pool
$80,000!
Take a look.
That's insane.
Everybody is scared, the mom added.
Parents are also scared the kids will be harmed.
We are paying $80,000 for this school.
Their life will be impacted.
That wouldn't be the case if you would just stand up and say no.
But we've had three of three female swimmers come out anonymously and be like, we don't like this.
elisha krauss
But let's future trip here a little bit.
What happens then?
Because I'm definitely a person that I'm fine with standing up and saying no.
I am the person.
I've dug my political grave.
I will lie in it.
But part of what I do is I feel like I have to be and I am representative of women in STEM and in Hollywood and in fashion and in finance who will legitimately lose everything if they speak up and say no.
And I think that you are now, especially, heck, yay for Virginia with the Yunkin situation, seeing people that are saying, OK, especially when it comes to our kids, enough is enough.
I think that for these parents, you can't underestimate that them writing a letter to the administration that could behind the scenes or very publicly, much to the cheering of the SJWs of the world.
How many years though, Tim?
tim pool
It's been going on for a decade.
Over a decade.
Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan on his show, Joe Rogan on his show, and this is back in 2012, talked about Fallon Fox crushing a woman's skull in an MMA ring.
Joe Rogan is the biggest podcast in the world.
This is mainstream and these parents had, there's no way you will ever convince me they didn't know this was happening.
The only reason they're speaking up now in this letter is because it's finally impacting them and now they have to say something.
elisha krauss
But that's most people.
Most people don't say or do anything.
Those women in Virginia, once again, that voted for Junkin, that also voted for Joe Biden, they flipped in the last two weeks because it affected them.
That's just human nature, and I don't think that you're going to change that, and I don't think that we're going to win people to do more of this if we're just telling them that they're negligent parents.
tim pool
They are negligent parents.
When their kids have been training throughout high school and now entering college, and they were like, don't worry, we'll keep our heads down.
Let me explain.
When Benjamin Franklin said, those who would give up their freedoms for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.
That doesn't just apply to the government.
It exists in every facet.
These people who think, I'll keep my head down and scrape by.
You are sacrificing your principles.
You are sacrificing the future for your children.
I don't know when it comes now you think hold on you think I'm gonna I'm gonna allocate resources in
Defense of people who knew this was going on It's been going on for a decade and they are now saying oh
no now my kids are losing races Sorry, Leah Thomas has abided by all of the rules
undergoing a year of hormone treatment so that she could qualify for this
And where were the parents to come out and say no to this?
Oh, I'm sorry You're saying the parents weren't paying attention to the
elisha krauss
rules that they were putting on say I'm not saying- I'm saying that could be option A. Option B could just be the- they think this too shall pass.
I think that there is an element of people, especially over the age of like 40, 45 in this country, that are like, it didn't used to be this way.
This- This ain't gonna be a thing.
This'll go away."
And that now they're waking up and realizing, oh, this ain't going away, and we need to do something about it.
tim pool
So I respect the letter, absolutely 100%.
The parents who are coming out now being like, this is wrong, we're scared, we're spending money on this.
elisha krauss
And I wish the female athletes would speak up.
I totally wish they would.
But I get that everyone's cost-benefit analysis is different.
And if these girls go on and start a gaming company and are actually legitimate, successful, real feminist business owners that don't discriminate against people and have intellectual, like, diversity at their companies, amazing.
They have to, like, think about the ends here before they say something.
And I don't want to undermine people for doing that.
tim pool
And this is why the moderates, the dependents, the libertarian types are losing culturally, or at least have been for some time.
Because the left is willing to go scorched earth.
They'll literally send shock troops with crowbars and Molotov cocktails to do what they want.
They will put their names on giant signs and say, this is who I am, and I refuse.
When they go to work, there was one person who went to Taco Bell, working there, and wore a Black Lives Matter mask.
And the boss said, you can't wear that, it's political.
And they said, I'm wearing it or I'm quitting.
And they said, you're fired.
He said, fine.
Took a picture, posted it online.
The entire left rallied around him, got his job back and forced the company to bend its knee.
The right just says, but if, but you know, but I got to think about feeding my kids in the future.
So I'm not going to engage in this.
And they lose, lose, lose.
elisha krauss
I agree with most of that.
I just think that you have to be understanding of the people that have to feed their kids and don't want to lose their future.
And so we need to be more organized.
We need to be better at a narrative and we need to be understanding that emotional stories and emotional examples can kind of engage people and get them in and then you can fill them with facts and encourage them to speak up.
tim pool
Well, sure, sure.
But this attitude that I've heard of consistently over the past few years of, if I speak up, I could lose my job, and how do I feed my kids?
And I'm like, have you looked at the cost of cereal?
It's going up 20%.
Have you looked at the wholesale inflation's up nearly 10%?
The fastest on record.
Consumer price increases are up at a 40-year high.
Inflation is about to run away.
They've printed, what, 30 to 40% of all U.S.
dollars in the past year and a half?
elisha krauss
Yep.
tim pool
And people keep saying, But I gotta make sure there's food for my kids.
Yo, if you keep complying with this, you're not gonna have anything for your kids.
elisha krauss
And I'm saying this is where you and the Joes and the Bens and the Rogans of the world can give these people then the talking points and the encouragement that they need to actually say something.
Because I think especially for women, we totally like second-guess ourselves.
And we are like, did that happen?
Did that?
Oh, I don't know.
Did the teacher really say that?
Like, did that kid really say that to my kid?
And like, should I say something?
Well, I don't know.
I don't want to lose a friend and all this stuff.
And we are like in the moment of just life that we are think that we don't have the voice And are afraid that we don't have, I get told this all the time by people, specifically women, that are like, I feel like I can't say what you say because I won't sound as good saying it.
And I'm like, I don't even say it that good.
I don't know what y'all are talking about.
But I think that people like us have to use our voices and give these people the talking points and the help that they need to go Scorched Earth and to show it to the companies that we're not going to put up with this anymore.
tim pool
I agree with that.
The challenge is, If the lowest tier of Antifa and the leftists, random people on the internet, are willing to plaster their names, their sacred honor, and their families behind their principles, and the other side, the independent libertarian types, are not willing to do that, then it's clear which side is going to dominate the culture war.
elisha krauss
Yeah, but are they really?
I see lots of empty Twitter faces and profiles that tweet major companies trying to get them to stop.
Sure.
tim pool
And they wear masks and they have strategy.
But these are people who are willing to go out on January 20th, 2017 and torch vehicles and smash windows.
And when they got arrested, institutional powers that they've organized got them all released, except for those who pled guilty ignorantly.
And then you look at what happens with, you know, a right-wing group can walk outside for a march holding up signs saying peace and love and they'll say it's a far-right Nazi rally.
So these people have ceded that power to the establishment media.
They're not working in these industries.
And look, if you're not willing to engage, and I will point this out too, obviously the left has the high ground because they have the media.
elisha krauss
And that's why we have to be smart.
tim pool
Absolutely.
elisha krauss
They don't just have the media though.
They have all of the other industries in which I mentioned that scared women message me every day.
STEM, education, fashion.
tim pool
So, while I recognize there are some, you know, strategic limits, what do you think would have happened if, as soon as this race, so this Leah Thomas won the race by over 38 seconds compared to the next fastest rival.
When I was watching a video of this, I saw people swimming the wrong way, and I was confused, because I've watched swimming before.
I've watched like, you know, all the big races.
elisha krauss
Yeah, you're like, oh, didn't they all dive off the same?
tim pool
And then they go back, and they go back, and they go back.
And I'm like, why is this person going back?
Oh, they're just outlapping the other people.
unidentified
Whoa!
tim pool
What do you think would have happened if all of the women who were there refused to race?
elisha krauss
Oh, they probably would have been kicked out of school.
That's my assumption.
tim pool
You think that the schools would have been like, you're not racing, you're kicked out.
No, I think they would have been like, there's no race.
elisha krauss
I think that that's, well, there's no race, but then all the SJWs and all of the woke people on Twitter and all of the corporations that maybe sponsor the team and any of the coaches or the medical staff or, you know, the groups on campus, the LGBTQ groups would have outed those girls and made their lives miserable.
And if they weren't kicked out by the administration, they would have been scared to ever set foot on that campus again.
That's what would have happened.
tim pool
They deserve to lose.
Absolutely.
If you are unwilling to sacrifice and take personal responsibility for your future and for what you believe in, then you don't deserve it.
elisha krauss
And I hope that I'm raising my girls.
Our motto every day is to be strong, sweet, and smart.
That they have the independence and the forethought and the inner strength to do what is right.
But I think that ostracizing people by belittling the small steps that they're willing to take and saying, well, you're not risking enough is not going to win more people to our side either.
tim pool
They're unwilling to stand up for what they believe in.
elisha krauss
This letter for them is like what they're willing... The parents aren't the adults.
tim pool
Ian made a good point.
These people are competing are adults.
They're responsible for themselves.
If you're, look... But you know money talks.
elisha krauss
So if the parents are the ones paying 80 grand a year, really the parents saying something maybe makes more of a difference than the girls saying, I'm not going to swim.
tim pool
There are so many people, you know, when you were mentioning it's like, you know, you said me, Joe, Ben and people who speak up and bring these things up.
If you're going to sit back and say someone else will do it for me, I guarantee you, you will lose.
elisha krauss
Oh absolutely and that's that's literally how what I spend every day is like I am here to speak for a lot of people but like we need more of us and we need more average people and there is strength in numbers.
tim pool
So it's hard for me to be up look so my personal opinion is there should be a women's you know female division and then there's a male division and maybe we do a trans division where you know it can be mixed but Right now, if the rules were changed... But by the way, sorry, sidebar.
elisha krauss
If you're a woman that is transitioning to a man, you're still not going to be the man that's transitioning to a woman.
No, I disagree with that.
So there shouldn't be a trans... Have we... There's no way!
ian crossland
I was just thinking the same thing.
elisha krauss
There's no way, biologically, there's no way.
Trans women will obliterate trans men.
tim pool
That's not true.
I think... Really?
Are you familiar with Macbeths?
elisha krauss
No.
tim pool
This is the biological female who started transitioning to become male, testosterone Ends up with broad shoulders, muscle mass, and all that stuff.
I think there's obviously going to be some research into this, but it is true that biological males who undergo hormone therapy do have reduced muscle mass and stamina and endurance, etc.
And then females who undergo hormone therapy gain it.
So there might be, you know, a medium at some point.
elisha krauss
I don't think so.
I think genetically and naturally there are so many scientific differences that are just
in our bodies as men and women in those like two sexes that it there there can't be I don't
think there could be a transgender.
ian crossland
But height is huge.
tim pool
But regardless and that's true but we have height divisions.
elisha krauss
Cellulite, muscles, like your body like your bone density.
tim pool
And if we create a new division that people can choose to enter then they're free to choose
to enter it or not.
elisha krauss
I'm okay with that sure.
So if it's a pub if it is a public school I think unfortunately this is going to start
coming over to much like they did with the gay marriage thing and sex education and CRT
it's going to start inkling its way if it hasn't already and I think in some places
it has into religious schools as well.
tim pool
I want to give a shout out to Clifton Duncan, who tweeted something I think is really great.
He said, My contempt for covidians has been surpassed by my contempt for people who know something is wrong and stay silent.
And I was like, yep.
But you know what ends up happening is when people are unwilling, and outside of the issue of these schools, we'll move on from that, when people are unwilling to stand up for any of these issues, what you end up with, you end up with hyper individualism.
elisha krauss
People basically saying if no one else is willing to rally and defend this I'm on my own I'm gonna stay on my own well and but that can be so once again like Going back to how women are so different than men that anxiety and that isolation can be so paralyzing and and I think that it all all it takes is my I would just tell anybody like just find a person that agrees with you on something you don't have to clearly you and I don't agree on everything but I hope we walk away friends after this and we're gonna like fight the cause together after this right because we agree on the majority of things that need to be done to make the country a better place and to keep it the greatest nation in the world and so I think that people you're right they become
um lackadaisical and they become lazy and they become isolationist in a sense because they think that they are all alone in their thinking and they don't see anyone else speaking up and so i just want to encourage more parents and more swimmers and more everybody to speak up in any way that you possibly can because then more of those voices make a difference like look at all those incredible parents that were like i'm gonna go to my local school board meeting Yep.
And that made an impact.
And they're winning.
tim pool
Yeah.
elisha krauss
And we need more of them.
tim pool
So I got a good example here.
We got this story from Business Insider.
Anti-vaxxers storm a New York cheesecake factory in protest that ends in six arrests.
That's the story.
Anti-vaxxer is a funny term.
These are basically anti-mandate protests.
elisha krauss
So that's me.
tim pool
They showed up to the Cheesecake Factory.
They apparently refused to be seated, so they decided to seat themselves, is my understanding.
And then the manager was like, you can't be in here.
The police showed up.
They said, we're not going to leave.
They were chanting, things like that.
luke rudkowski
Are they anti-vaxxers for the first shot, the second shot, the third shot, or the fourth shot?
Because there are a lot of people who did take the shot that don't want it to be mandated on people, and they're still being called anti-vaxxers when they took the shot themselves.
tim pool
I think they were for the first, not the second.
luke rudkowski
Not the third but the fourth they're got it I have a friend but these are people putting skin on the
line These are people coming into a restaurant peacefully saying
hey, we want some service here The restaurant comes up to them says hey
We have to comply with this rule and this rule and this rule and this rule with the federal government
And they said you know what? No, no, no, no, no, no We're not going to comply with the government whims that
you demand of us and then they're like, okay We're going to call the police. They call the police the
police carried out these orders and these decrees by of course
tim pool
But hold on bureaucrats and they arrested these people. I think there's something there's an interesting, you know,
sort of middle ground here Watching these videos. It was very reminiscent of watching
leftist protests as well. They were The protesters did not understand what they what was going
on. They were saying you can't kick us out It's a public accommodation. We're allowed to be here and
it's like bro, you you can be told to leave well the police Aren't there because of the VAX mandates.
They're there because you're trespassing.
luke rudkowski
Exactly.
A private business has a right to exclude you from business, but that's not the argument that a lot of people on the left make saying you do have to bake the cake.
You do have to provide a service no matter what.
So these people are using the same arguments.
And a lot of people are bringing in parallels to this, to what happened in the 1960s with some of the restaurant sit-ins that happened then that was fighting against discrimination.
And there is a lot of discrimination, a lot of segregation that deserves to be pushed back, that violates human rights, that's being called on by bureaucrats, by big statists who are violating the most sacred right of all, the right to exist, the right to be able to buy food and water.
And that's incredulous and crazy.
elisha krauss
So yeah, that's where I go to, real quick, like I thought that food was an essential service.
Now maybe you could argue, oh well, you're not, you don't have a right to go to Cheesecake Factory or Delmonico Steakhouse or McDonald's, right?
unidentified
But it's not just that, it's also supermarkets.
elisha krauss
But in all of the mandates that I've seen, there is a carve-out for grocery stores because I think that they knew that they would get their, you know, what's sued.
luke rudkowski
Not in some places, not in some places like in Canada where they give the right for supermarkets to discriminate against people.
elisha krauss
But I'm specifically talking about the United States of America.
luke rudkowski
And in Australia and in many other places.
elisha krauss
So many friends that are Aussies and that's insane.
I think the thing that you mentioned about like bodily autonomy and like your individual health care rights, it's kind of funny how the left used to say like health care was a human right and like your body your choice until now.
I get really annoyed by the people that try to make the comparison to the Hobby Lobby case.
Because I tweeted earlier tonight that, you know, your employer should not be able to tell you like what to put in your body or what to do with your body, especially if it's not a detriment to your job performance or the safety of those around you.
And people are like, oh yeah, but what about Hobby Lobby?
And I'm like, Hobby Lobby didn't tell their employees, no, you can't take contraceptives.
They said we are morally opposed to paying for that.
unidentified
Yeah.
elisha krauss
And and then I've also had people because, like I said, I'm a home birth hippie.
They're like, well, your employer knew you were having a home birth.
I'm like, the only reason that Jeremy Boring knew I was having a home birth is because I talk about it all the time and I try to convince people to do the same thing.
And I love being a doula.
I'm like, but my employer, your employer doesn't know your birth plan.
Your employer doesn't know what vaccines you're going to give your kids.
Your employer doesn't know any of that stuff.
Your insurance company that your employer subsidizes does, but not the employers.
And now you have Like Kroger grocery stores, which they own Ralph's in California.
And I legitimately, I'm like, I spend thousands of dollars a month at Ralph's.
I will find a different grocery store.
luke rudkowski
They just announced that they're going to be cutting away benefits for their unvaxed workers and employees.
That's the major decision.
They're also also trying to get into the Florida market and a lot of
Florida people are saying hey don't support this business and this is the way
to do it so vote with your dollar support the businesses that that you that
support you that support your individual Liberty your individual freedom but
in New York City a lot of these businesses are told to obey and go along
with the edicts today five-year-olds have to show their Vax mandate paperwork and
their identification when it comes to in-door stores and
businesses that is absolutely the people who complied the stores and business yes
elisha krauss
absolutely I so wish there's a lot of places that are not complying in LA and I
don't want to publicize who they are because I don't want the Health
Department to come knocking but I've heard from a lot of businesses there and
I'm sure it's it's the same in other places it's like
We're not going to comply.
It kind of depends on the enforcement of it, right?
That's the bottom line.
Because in LA, I think, for the LA County Health Department, for restaurants that don't require vax cards and bars and stuff like that, the first fine is $1,000.
Most people can scrounge up that money, right? The second fine is like
two, the third one is ten. And after that you can lose like all of your licenses. And it's
and that is a lot for a business who maybe still be in the red from the government shutting them
down during COVID to say, am I willing to take this risk? But they're willing to take
tim pool
the risk of violating the ADA and the EEOC.
elisha krauss
They're unaware though.
This goes back to the people that are unaware.
tim pool
I called a couple dozen New York restaurants and they were just like, yep, every one of these businesses has to have that thing on the wall that explains you can't discriminate on the basis of medical conditions.
So I called these restaurants and one of them I asked, I was like, I talked to 26 and I said, would you discriminate against someone on the basis of medical conditions?
They all said yes.
One of them, I was like, so, you know, my question to you is like, which do you think is worse?
Like, the $1,000 fine for violating the executive order?
Or the potential $250,000 fine for human rights violations under New York City and state law?
And they hung up on me.
elisha krauss
Yeah, because they probably do not know.
And they're like, this thing is on the wall, and they don't understand.
They're like, this guy, this guy's pranking me.
tim pool
I think it's weird that they would know about a decree, like an executive order, like verbatim, but they wouldn't know about their own business.
elisha krauss
Really?
When the media is, like, pushing it and touting it and talking about how important it is?
And when you have the mayor and the governor and the president of the Unites, like, all spewing it?
tim pool
Yes, because the people who run these businesses have to file to get these things and are sent to them and they hang them up.
elisha krauss
Have you ever met somebody that, like, works in HR that hangs that up?
They're not passing it along.
tim pool
The businesses in New York City are not big corporate collaborates.
They're small restaurants.
It's mostly small businesses.
elisha krauss
Actually, the majority of restaurants in the country are owned by immigrants, women, and classified small businesses.
tim pool
In New York City, I'm calling and talking to the managers and the owners, and they know this.
They know they're violating the Americans with Disabilities Act.
elisha krauss
Then they've dug their grave.
unidentified
Right, right.
tim pool
So I'd love to see this.
elisha krauss
And they've lost, what is it, like 63%?
There was an article even before the second mandate Here's what we need.
tim pool
We need a president who is going to tell this country all of these businesses will be investigated for violations of the equal employment laws, the Americans with Disabilities Act, because in New York City, they actually are firing people who have Guillain-Barre syndrome.
This was the craziest thing to me when they announced that the vaccine mandate meant that if you were medically barred from getting the vaccine, you lost it against people.
No, I want to see them fined.
I want to see them fined the maximum penalty for that.
elisha krauss
Yeah, I also think that if you're a guy that, or a gal that owns a business, that's going to do that to your employee at a small business.
My mom owns and operates a small business and has for years.
And there's a lot of incredible small business owners out there that care about their people.
Like you're probably an asshole boss before COVID, if you're willing to fire somebody during COVID for not getting the job.
tim pool
There's a lot of businesses.
elisha krauss
Exactly.
Like, and that's another extreme of like, you're a jerk.
luke rudkowski
We also have to understand there's a lot of businesses that are not complying.
They're not going along with this.
One, because they can't afford to.
They can't afford extra staff.
There's already a staffing shortage.
And now they're going to have to discriminate against people who will or will not be able to enter their business to transact financially with them.
That's absolutely crazy.
These regulations, these mandates, hurt and butcher small businesses, but they allow mega national corporations to succeed because they could hire the extra person.
They could have the security guard outside.
And of course, they don't face the full brunt of the state.
But again, a lot of people in New York City not complying.
A lot of people in Manhattan complying.
Brooklyn, not so much.
And that's why it's also crazy to see major hospital unions.
Also, a lot of major institutions like Amtrak just totally dropped the vaccine mandate because they can't go along with it because they can't hire enough people to do the Yeah.
tim pool
They were going to have to shut down train services, delay, and they were like, we literally can't, so the vaccine mandate's out.
luke rudkowski
Amtrak just announced that a couple moments ago, by the way, that they're not going to go along with it.
elisha krauss
You know, there's legal defense funds and stuff that I follow, too, on social, and you are seeing small wins.
You're seeing the delays, and all it needs to do is start with the delay, and then hopefully one day it'll go away completely.
luke rudkowski
Well, there's three judges that are going against Biden's mandate, but the Biden administration has plans on the table to set up a domestic passport system when it comes to interstate travel, where they're going to be checking vaccine passports.
That's some of the plans that they want to put forward.
elisha krauss
There's no way that passes judicial muster.
luke rudkowski
But this is something that has already been implemented in Australia.
unidentified
Yeah, it's like a commerce clause, anyone?
tim pool
Australia is a bunch, like the people of Australia are some of the, not all of them, but they're very, very cowardly.
elisha krauss
They're the most compliant people I've ever met in my entire life.
And they're like, oh, it's okay.
We'll see.
Okay.
Like if I do this, then they'll leave me alone.
If I do this, then they'll leave me alone.
tim pool
The United States is like the trope of the armed redneck in a tank being like, get off my property.
ian crossland
Preemptive attack.
tim pool
Like the, I love that family guy joke where Kermit the frog is playing.
He's like playing the banjo or whatever.
And someone's, they're going through a swamp and they're like, Hey, can you tell me where town is?
And then he pulls out a shotgun.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's back the way you came.
tim pool
That's the trope, man.
Don't screw around with people like, get off my property, dude.
elisha krauss
My husband likes, so Winter's Bone.
I love Jennifer Lawrence, like the one that she was nominated for an Oscar for.
My husband always tells people, he's like, you know where Elisha's from?
They're like, no.
I'm like, well, here's Oklahoma and there's where I'm from.
And then my husband's like, have you seen Winter's Bone?
And they're like, yes.
And he's like, that's where Elisha's from.
unidentified
Nice.
tim pool
Look, look, Australia's got, you know, their crazy spiders and, you know, kangaroos.
You ever see that video where the kangaroo's like banging on the glass?
elisha krauss
They used to have rats that were like climbing into cribs and trying to eat babies.
tim pool
So it's a scary place, but for whatever reason the government comes out and they're like, we're gonna lock all you in camps.
And they're like, that's all right, mate.
elisha krauss
The reason why is it actually is a society that is very like middle class, upper middle class, like everybody is middle class.
Like if you are if you drive an airport shuttle there, you're like middle class.
And I have a lot of friends that are Australian and love them dearly.
And one of my girlfriends just became an American citizen, by the way.
Super cool.
She has like family still over there, especially her grandparents.
And they've talked about like this upper class, much like in the United States, right?
Like you have these rich elitists that can still go to Mexico and fly their private planes and send their kids to the 70 grand a year, you know, private school in LA and pretend like everything's okay.
Chrissy Teigen.
But But it is the lower class there.
It is like the blue-collar people that are the ones that are going out and protesting and getting their, you know, what's handed to them by the cops.
Really brutal stuff that is disgusting that is not being covered by media anywhere.
And it's kind of like the upper class is like, oh, you know, we got the shot.
We're okay.
And it is the poor The underrepresented underdogs there that are like, no, enough is enough.
And I'm like, good for them.
If any of you are watching, good for you.
God bless you.
luke rudkowski
It's the poor people that have been predominantly the victims here.
They're the ones that are losing a lot of their money, losing their savings, losing their economic mobility, losing any kind of economic opportunities.
They're the ones absolutely getting riddled with regulations, restrictions.
They can't operate a small business.
Multinational corporations, they could be open when lockdowns are imposed on everyone else.
They could conduct business.
They, of course, could afford the regulations.
They could afford the extra taxes.
They could afford every little whim that the government puts on them because they're working hand-in-hand together and working out secret deals that essentially benefit them.
And that's why we're seeing the largest transfer of wealth in recorded human history happening right now.
tim pool
Let's talk about what's going on in New York City.
New York City passes green gas ban.
Experts warn could lead to electrical blackouts and soaring bills.
De Blasio-backed law will outlaw gas stoves and heaters in all new building properties.
So that is as of January 2024, all new buildings and taller ones, what is it?
Shorter buildings of seven stories have to go electric by January 2024.
You know, New York City is, it's like, it's going to be, have you seen Escape from New York?
That's what it's going to be like.
And I love that movie.
It's hilarious when he crashed.
You've seen it, right, Ian?
ian crossland
Yeah, yeah.
A couple months ago, we put it on downstairs.
tim pool
Yeah, and he lands on the rooftop.
Going down the building.
elisha krauss
Hot old guy list.
tim pool
Everything's destroyed.
Bill de Blasio said he wants to buy up these buildings that are collapsing in value and becoming vacant to use as public housing.
Oh.
Rebuilding the projects and segregating people?
elisha krauss
that what Build-A-Block Deal was?
tim pool
Destroying property value, forcing people to flee because he's conquering the city.
Now banning gas in buildings?
Well, there you go.
I mean, look, their vision of a future... Someone had a really, really great tweet.
They said, the elites... They were referring to space travel, but I think it applies to all of them.
They were like, the elites do not want Star Trek.
They do not want a Star Trek future.
They want a future more like Dune.
They want classist, elitist control of everything.
elisha krauss
That they can annihilate.
tim pool
You know what?
ian crossland
This cooking over an open flame is probably more than a magnitude better than cooking on an electric wire stove where you can't get, when you have a flame you can pick the pot up and move it around and tilt it to get the heat exactly right where you need it for the food.
tim pool
Ian knows from experience.
ian crossland
The quality of food is gonna drop in New York after this.
elisha krauss
I just imagine like all the chefs in the world that are like, You need open flame to cook?
tim pool
What are they gonna do?
They're gonna have torches and they're gonna be holding the pan with a torch under it?
elisha krauss
They'll come up with a really cool, like, hipster thing where there's a grill in the restaurant.
tim pool
My concern is not so much about the quality of the food they cook, but the rolling blackouts that are gonna literally kill people.
elisha krauss
Yeah, especially New York.
Remember that freak ice storm that was horrific earlier this year that killed people in Texas, partly because they were trying to do this clean energy move that wasn't a good thing, and oh, you know, the windmills froze after they killed all the birds and used more natural gas to make them than it actually outputs?
New York is frickin' miserable.
And this is a problem.
tim pool
Do you think that Greta Thunberg knows that her plan would kill millions of people in a matter of weeks?
ian crossland
No.
tim pool
When she's like, how dare you?
She said like, we mustn't we mustn't wait until 2030 or 2023.
unidentified
We must do it now.
tim pool
It's like, if you shut off fossil fuels right now, you'd probably kill 10 million people in a weekend.
elisha krauss
Yeah.
tim pool
Because all the electricity goes out.
People who are diabetic, oh, they die instantly because their insulin goes bad.
And then within the matter of a couple of weeks, the elderly start dying from a lack of access to heating and cooling.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
So is, you know, I have to give her the benefit of the doubt and assume she just doesn't realize she's talking about genocide.
elisha krauss
No, she's being fed talking points by the evil environmentalist lobby of the world.
tim pool
What's their endgame in this?
elisha krauss
There's another discrepancy, though.
You talk about how poor people, underprivileged people, have been so negatively hurt by COVID and regulations.
Here's something that leftists and radicals don't want to talk about, is the poverty index when it comes to energy.
And the energy poor in the world and the best way to raise their future, their educational, their medical, like their professional economic growth is to provide these people with the energy that now Bill de Blasio and Gavin Newsom are trying to take away.
And private entities are the best way to do this.
Like if you want to have a cleaner planet, let corporations do what they do.
Like the private market has been so much better for I went to Iceland a couple years ago, and it's beautiful.
tim pool
It's amazing.
It's expensive, a little bit.
And what I was told by locals there was that, I was like, how is it that people live up here?
You know what I mean?
It's like, you know, it's day out until midnight or whatever.
elisha krauss
It's a survival.
tim pool
Yeah, there's like, where do you get food from?
How do you grow food?
Everything smells like farts.
It's true, they have greenhouses.
They have greenhouses for growing vegetables.
And then what I was told was before the advent of geothermal, they were some of the poorest people in the world, working in mines, just covered in filth and struggling to survive.
But once they got access to cheap, clean energy, their standard of living skyrocketed.
Now, it works for them because they live on a gigantic, you know, volcanic hotspot.
But for people who are in the middle of, you know, America, you know, we got to ship in oil and gas to them.
So they have the ability, they have the energy they can use for farming equipment, for home heating, for cooking.
elisha krauss
Well, we shouldn't have to when we're sitting on some, but go on.
tim pool
I mean, I mean areas that don't have access to it, right?
Like, not every area has, you know, sitting on oil.
And so we have pipelines.
So we can ship it to them.
So we can say, there's a lot here, there's a little here, let's move it around.
And this gives people better quality of life.
Now, I'm concerned about, you know, climate change and all that stuff, too.
So I'd love me some fusion.
There was a new report I'm really excited about.
They finally got energy output from fusion.
You see that, Ian?
ian crossland
Yeah, but it might have been debunked.
tim pool
Oh, really?
elisha krauss
I'm just a fan of nuclear energy.
Everybody assumes that Chernobyl is going to happen and I'm like, guys, no.
If you watch the HBO documentary and then you actually read a history book, you will see that Chernobyl ain't going to happen.
And even with the Japanese plant that had all the issues.
Fukushima.
Yeah.
What was it?
tim pool
Fukushima.
That's how you say it properly.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
elisha krauss
I ain't gonna say that properly.
Much like you can't say my name properly.
I'm never gonna be able to say that properly.
ian crossland
That was not debunked.
They have made some mega breakthroughs.
elisha krauss
But there's so many... If these people, though, really cared...
about forward movement in the energy race to be clean, then they would be looking into nuclear infusion.
And why don't they?
tim pool
Because, look, people don't understand.
The problem with Chernobyl was not nuclear power.
It was communism.
elisha krauss
Exactly.
A thousand percent.
That was, like, the most conservative, pro-capitalistic, like, American agenda show I have ever seen come out of Bollywood when my husband and I watched that show.
I was like, did they realize what they were— It's like Squid Game, right?
Like, the writer thinks that it's like a thing about how evil capitalism is.
tim pool
This one really got me, too, because I said that several times, that Squid Game was very clearly about communism.
unidentified
And all the leftists were like, Tip's so dumb, he doesn't understand capitalism.
tim pool
And I said, if it was an allusion to capitalism, when they did the red light, green light, some people would have started at the finish line, some people would have been in the middle, and some people would have been in the back.
When everyone is put in a jumpsuit and put at the beginning and told, run for it.
Yeah, that's communism, not capitalism.
elisha krauss
Yep, a thousand percent.
I do kind of love it though when Hollywood assumes that there's even some some things that they've come out with recently that I watch it and I'm like so I'm like this is pro-life like how did somebody how did somebody like I am mother did you watch I am mother?
Um, it's a pretty good like sci-fi movie on, on Netflix and like I watched it and I'm like, it's totally, I don't want to give it away, but it's like totally pull it.
Love on the Spectrum.
I totally almost cry every episode.
Love on the Spectrum is like about people on the spectrum that are trying to find love and like marriage and happiness.
And I'm like, this show is so pro-life because anyway.
tim pool
Have you seen The Order?
elisha krauss
No.
tim pool
So this show got canceled.
There's only two seasons.
But so I'll just spoil it because it's you know, I think it's it's it's this came out like a year ago.
elisha krauss
Yeah.
tim pool
The Villain in the second season.
This is this is like, it's a college age show.
So it's targeting people who are in their 18 to 24.
The Villain in the second season is an overt communists.
It's overt communists.
Uh, they go to this guy's, this professor's house, and he's got, they look at his books, it's like Stalin, Marx, and the show is about a secret society of, you know, people of magic, and that, you know, in order to cast a spell you have to sacrifice something, so they cut their hands as a sacrifice to, like, cast a spell.
And the communists believe that there is an incantation that will give everyone the ability to freely use magic.
And the leader of the order is like, if it were true, don't you think it would have happened by now?
People have tried this over and over again.
You either pay now or you pay later.
unidentified
And I'm like, man, pro-capitalist Netflix show.
tim pool
It's one thing if the villain was not overtly reading books on Marx.
And they just said, I believe in equality for magic, but they're literally like, their group was called Praxis, and they're like, Marx, it's good.
And they were like, workers unite.
unidentified
And I'm like, man, they just slapped us in the face with this one.
elisha krauss
I would love to think, I'd not heard about that show, but I would love to think that somewhere in Hollywood is like a pro-capitalist, like conservative that did that on purpose.
tim pool
I think they were experimenting.
elisha krauss
And it just like slipped it in.
tim pool
It got canceled though.
I wonder if, at Netflix, they were just like, look, a lot of our shows follow themes that are more pro-leftist.
elisha krauss
Yeah.
tim pool
Maybe if we make a show that follows another theme, we might actually see, like, maybe people like this stuff.
And they made the show and, you know, not enough people watched it, I guess.
elisha krauss
It sounds a little too, like, satanic for me.
I don't typically like those kinds of shows.
tim pool
Yeah, like, it's not a great show to be quite honest.
elisha krauss
They set the pro-capitalistic message up for failure, is what you're saying.
tim pool
I gotta be honest, like, I was eye-rolling at the overt politics that they had injected into it, and I was like... And I don't want that in my entertainment.
elisha krauss
I just want to be entertained.
tim pool
I wanted the werewolf to fight the wizard, you know what I mean?
And like, it's a brutal show, because like, they show people getting their hearts ripped out and stuff like that.
luke rudkowski
Well, most entertainment now is propaganda, and it's hard not to see it everywhere.
unidentified
It's horrible.
elisha krauss
Yeah, it's awful.
ian crossland
Dang.
elisha krauss
Allie Stucky the other day had a thing where she was like posting on her stories her insta stories all of the things
that are kind of just Like just subtly in kids shows and there's a show that my
eight-year-old likes to watch and I walked in and I was like what?
And I could show you a video I took a video of it and I showed it to my husband and it's
like a man in a sequins got jacket with an effeminate Voice and like a ton more makeup on than I'm wearing right
now and fabulous fake eyelashes and painted nails And I was like hey to my eight-year-old. I'm like, who's
this guy? She's like, oh, he's just on this episode He's the bad guy and he like wants to take over social
media. It was like a very She was like that's the bad guy don't worry Henry Danger is
gonna get him or whatever the show it was and I was just Like oh my gosh, it's happening or you even like I'm bad
guy was effeminate Yeah, but I'm like, well at least they acknowledge that you
know, I love it when there's bad ladies on shows I'm like, you know, women can be evil too.
Like Kim Jong-un's sister, anyone?
tim pool
Have you seen The Boys?
No, but I've heard it's really good.
I think it's the second season.
I don't know, whatever.
I haven't seen it in a minute.
But one of the characters is literally meant to be, I'm pretty sure, like, I think they were trying to rip off Laura Loomer.
elisha krauss
Really?
tim pool
So they got this, this, she's like a Nazi, like superhero or whatever.
And I think it was a leftist version of the worst, like, they look at Laura Loomer.
For real, watch, watch it.
And you know, Laura, if you end up seeing this, I wonder if she's seen it.
Because when I saw that, they announced before the season that they were introducing an alt-right superhero or something like this.
And I roll my eyes like, you know, like they're trying so hard to do this.
elisha krauss
It's so original.
Well, I remember back, Ann Coulter.
Like, I feel like there's so many characters.
I think it was like Ally McBeal, SVU, like all these, even movies where they would show like the, you know, kind of like CNN type news set that's commenting on what's ever happening in the movie, right?
Like, I think even in Day After Tomorrow, there was very much, there's always like the blonde that's making that argument and they would make her be attractive and thin and tall like Ann Coulter.
And it's like, It's visually that's what you know that that's what they were thinking in the writers room.
tim pool
I want to make sure I make this point clear too.
I am not saying that Laura's a Nazi.
I'm saying you have these leftists in Hollywood who get this fake media view of what Laura Loomer is and then make a character based on this fake version.
You know what I mean?
elisha krauss
I mean I'm surprised that they haven't done a fake version of like Rogan or Shapiro or you know what I mean?
It's bound to happen.
tim pool
Probably.
There's a new show on Netflix called, was it called Conspiracy Theory?
Is that what it is?
luke rudkowski
Um, I forgot the name of it.
elisha krauss
Oh yeah, I want to watch that.
I put it in my faves or whatever.
tim pool
I don't know, I don't remember what it's called.
luke rudkowski
I watch the later episodes, don't make it filled with propaganda.
tim pool
But there's a, one of the characters is a psychic mushroom from Hollow Earth.
And he has a bit in one episode where he can't, he doesn't want to hang out with Joe Rogan anymore.
And so like, they did DMT together or something.
That was fairly neutral, I thought it was funny.
elisha krauss
I just want to be entertained.
luke rudkowski
Entertainment has been weaponized.
You can't relax.
You can't sit back.
You can't enjoy a lot of content because there's a lot of subconscious crap that they're trying to put in your brain because when you're watching entertainment you let your guard down.
And literally your subconscious mind picks up all these subtle nuances, all this larger messaging, all this larger propaganda.
And that's why there's such big money in the entertainment industry.
And that's why there's such sinister people like Harvey Weinstein, like Kevin Spacey within it that do absolutely horrible things that are able to propagandize the future of this country and set the culture through Hollywood.
There's a reason a lot of people in Hollywood say that it's run by Satan.
And a lot of people make jokes about it, but But there's a lot of parallels.
elisha krauss
There's there's there.
You are the lowest of the low if you tried to sexualize my eight year old.
Like you are the lowest of the low.
And if if you are trying to and that is I think my biggest issue with lots of LGBTQ
activists that you are trying to change the physical emotional hormonal and mental out
like outcome of a human being especially before they're 18 years old and and using them as
a political pawn for your personal sexual agenda.
It's not okay.
tim pool
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Let's read some Super Chats we got here.
Darth Ribbit says, Tim, the Convention of States has a Maryland chapter.
We have members up in the West Virginia-Maryland area.
We have two Maryland Senators and Reps sponsoring the COS bill.
unidentified
Very cool.
tim pool
Convention of States.
Very, very cool.
Awesome.
All right, Reka Morsen says, Alberta is easing restrictions on the unvaxxed because, and I quote, the premier, vaccine passports are leading to mass civil disobedience.
He's in danger of losing his party leadership.
elisha krauss
I didn't know that they were all aboot that up there.
Good for you.
tim pool
Have you ever gone up there and had poutine?
elisha krauss
No.
It's so good.
I know Canada because of my husband's dislike of it, because he's from Detroit.
And also Don Cherry.
That's all I know about Canada.
lydia smith
I need poutine in my life.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
elisha krauss
What is poutine?
tim pool
Well, the basic version is just French fries with cheese curds and gravy.
elisha krauss
Oh, well, that sounds delicious.
tim pool
But when you go to actual poutine restaurants, they have like 30 different varieties.
elisha krauss
Is there like an all-you-can-eat buffet style?
Because I'm from the Bible Belt, and we like that.
It sounds like if there's 30 different varieties, I want the thing of fries, and then I want to be able to try the different kinds.
luke rudkowski
Just make it simple.
Just eat a potato.
Stop confusing things.
tim pool
No!
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Tim, Biden literally went to a disaster zone where lives were lost and ruined, and yet folks still booed him.
Guys, it is that bad for him.
elisha krauss
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, that's a good point.
elisha krauss
I mean, it's so true.
It's, that's, yeah, it's, it's the effects of what happened pre the awful natural disaster.
On top of, I think people are like, screw you, you're just here for a photo op.
tim pool
Yeah for me the craziest thing is I still can't believe that tomorrow I'm going to see Spider-Man in theaters.
I've been just like so excited when the trailers came out and I knew Tobey Maguire was going to be in it.
elisha krauss
Is it really like three hours long?
tim pool
Two and a half.
elisha krauss
It's only two and a half.
I felt like somebody had said that they thought it was going to be three hours long and I'm like, dang, like why?
Sometimes I feel like movies, it's the old lady in me, I'm like, That's just 20 minutes, too long.
unidentified
Go to sleep.
tim pool
I'm excited.
All right, let's see.
Moosey Moose says, DeSantis introduced a new bill, Stop WOKE Act.
Stop Wrongs Against Our Kids and Employees Act.
Looks like DeSantis is bringing us gifts for Christmas.
Someone also mentioned, like, stay away from DeSantis, he's ours.
lydia smith
DeSantis.
tim pool
People have pointed out that if he runs for president, then Florida loses a great governor, you know?
elisha krauss
Yeah, but they're going to be okay.
tim pool
Yeah, I think so.
elisha krauss
He can just endorse the next guy or gal.
luke rudkowski
Florida man has a reputation for a reason.
elisha krauss
I mean, but don't we want to make America Florida again?
lydia smith
We do.
luke rudkowski
I got that shirt too.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Christina H says, how are the Rage on behalf of the Machine songs coming along?
Can't wait to hear them.
Step on Snack and find out.
Will be awesome too.
Much love from my dad and I to our favorite podcast.
So normally we don't announce the guests we're having in the event that like they just cancel.
But Michael Graves is coming, and he was a singer of The Misfits, I believe.
lydia smith
Correct.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
So I was recently talking to hang out with him.
It's gonna be really awesome.
We're gonna set up a little jam space.
And I was telling him, like, we should do a big song where we should just get as many people who, like, play music to add some tracks to it.
So, like, you know, we'll do some, like, guitar here.
And then we've got Pete Parata, formerly of The Offspring, who's doing drum checks for us.
elisha krauss
That's cool.
Yeah.
tim pool
Then we'll get Michael Graves to do, like, some vocals.
Michael Knowles plays guitar.
Yeah.
Jack Posobiec plays bass.
Sydney Watson plays piano and sings.
James O'Keefe sings, right?
lydia smith
And he's a DJ.
tim pool
And he's a DJ.
And then I was like... Oh.
elisha krauss
My.
Gosh.
And Ben Shapiro...
Ben plays the violin.
And he's not a bad singer.
So when we did a morning show together, we did a morning answer listener cruise.
And I love karaoke.
And so we did like Krauss karaoke one night.
And he sang some Frank Sinatra to his wife, who is a doctor, by the way.
And he has a good, he's pretty decent.
tim pool
So I said I'm here by committing all of these people to this song, Rage on Behalf of the Machine.
I said it'll be called Rage Against the Machine, but like for real this time.
elisha krauss
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Or something like that.
elisha krauss
Because Rage Against the Machine sold out.
tim pool
And they're now Rage on Behalf of the Machine.
elisha krauss
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
But I do feel like if we just do the basic tracks and tell someone, give five minutes to throw something on top of it, people would do it.
elisha krauss
This is like the Freedom Movement's version of a telethon.
tim pool
It's like, instead of all we're saying is give peace a chance or like one world No, but it's gonna be it's gonna be a good song cuz we're not gonna screw around I'm not I'm not gonna stick my name on anything bad.
elisha krauss
You should get like John Rich and Mike Rowe You know that Mike Rowe has like the number one song.
He had like a number one song in the country.
What does he play?
Well, he sang it.
He and John Rich did like a Dirty Santa Claus Oh my gosh.
Like, Santa Gets Dirty, like, you know, song.
Isn't that hilarious?
lydia smith
That's amazing.
elisha krauss
Yeah.
lydia smith
Let me get Mike on.
elisha krauss
He's amazing.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
Westside Powersports says, any chance you can get Crowder on since he's off YouTube until after the new year?
Would be a great IRL.
Also, Merry Christmas to everyone.
Is he off?
luke rudkowski
I think he got another hit.
tim pool
He got hit, which is complete BS, you know, and I always encourage people whenever they go after Crowder, YouTube gave him another strike.
Show your support to him with Mug Club.
But he's not taking off for the holidays.
luke rudkowski
I don't think he could go live, so I think he's taking a show to Rumble for a week.
That's what I saw.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He still works.
elisha krauss
I said this earlier on Twitter, I'm like, when will big tech realize that the more you try to silence voices, it's like earned media.
It's like free PR.
tim pool
Within limits, I think it's true for Bannon though, because when they took him off YouTube, people want to watch Bannon.
elisha krauss
Yeah.
tim pool
So they just moved over to the podcasts, and so like his ratings skyrocket.
elisha krauss
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, these are people who are looking for his content.
The same thing is true for Crowder.
Crowder's got over half a million subs on Rumble.
Like, so this was a huge mistake for YouTube.
They only get by by forcing the monopoly, but Crowder is not going anywhere.
So if he has to move to Rumble, his company still exists, he still has people, he has a family to feed, he has employees to make sure he's doing right by them.
He's not going to shut his company down because he gets banned.
No.
And he's going to bring those millions of people, I think it's like 30 to 40 million per month, over to Rumble.
lydia smith
He has a lot of views.
elisha krauss
That's insane.
tim pool
YouTube needs to realize this, and I will mention this too.
Nick brought this up to me.
I knew this last year.
I didn't realize it.
We are, in terms of a live show, the number one super chatted show in the world, I guess, according to YouTube Metrics, and we're the 12th biggest live show on YouTube.
elisha krauss
That's awesome.
tim pool
Which is crazy to me.
I didn't realize that.
elisha krauss
And they haven't tried to cancel you yet?
tim pool
They've given us a strike.
So they deleted the Alex Jones episode right when it happened last year.
I talked to Google, they said, no, it's done, you can't bring it back.
And so then immediately I hit up Alex and Michael and I was like, come back, we're doing another new show because they won't reinstate this one.
So I recently decided, it's been a year, I'm going to click the appeal button.
And then they, within a day, said, we rejected your appeal.
And I was like, yeah, yeah, I know.
elisha krauss
They've sent the stuff that they like try to censor to like Larry Elder's video on why America isn't racist or I did a PragerU video about how America's abortion laws are more left than socialist countries.
unidentified
Yep.
elisha krauss
Yeah, they like censor it.
luke rudkowski
Dr. Peter McCullough was censored today.
elisha krauss
Yeah, I remember you saying that and it's so crazy because it's like if you google what kids can watch like transgender reading hour or a drag queen storybook hour like that's not put with a warning that's not censored but Just factual information totally is.
tim pool
Interesting.
All right, Anthony Eppley says, in your discussion about virtual reality,
you should look into Vasily Mahanenko's series, Way of the Shaman, Invasion, and Banned from Bar-Leona.
They cover all the issues you were talking about and take it even farther in the story.
Interesting, we were talking about Metaverse the other day.
elisha krauss
It freaks me out.
tim pool
Yeah, it's creepy, man.
But wouldn't, don't you want to just, uh, like, here's the way I described it to, uh, Sarah, like the movie surrogate.
No, no, no, no, no.
Imagine this.
lydia smith
Exactly.
tim pool
You walk over to your treadmill and you turn it on and then you put in your, your metaverse chip.
And then in your mind, you're sitting in old country buffet while your body is running on the treadmill.
And then you're just eating, you know, peanut butter pie brisket.
You got chicken wings, you got a burger and pizza and you can eat as much as you want.
And then when you're done, you take it off and you're just running on the treadmill and you stop and get off.
elisha krauss
Nope.
I like reality.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
You know what's crazy?
tim pool
Some people though.
ian crossland
A lot of the, when you take drugs, a lot of the response you feel is your body's chemical response to the drug.
elisha krauss
Yeah.
So I wonder if you go into virtual reality and you induce what your body thinks is the drug, that your body will produce the response, even though you didn't actually, you only took a simulated So there's some insane technology that I guess has been out for a while but now it's like some of it is on the market where they have like the like the emissions of what receptors are so like what a Jack and Coke is like and how it makes you feel and like the body's receptors to that.
I could be totally biffing this.
But it's like this wearable that you can have like a Jack and Coke setting or a relaxed setting or like a setting that makes you feel like maybe you know you took a hit of pot or had some CBD and that you're not actually ingesting it.
It's like this wearable is like emitting whatever waves Do that.
Anyway.
And so there is something I think that with the metaverse, like you have those things coming together.
And I think with all technology, there's an incredible opportunity for medical advancements and economic advancements and educational advancements, right?
Between like AR, VR and 3D printing, like you could do medical school with people in the middle of nowhere in like Sub-Saharan Africa.
That'd be incredible.
Got to get them power first, which Greta Thunberg doesn't want us to do.
I think with that though definitely like with great power comes great responsibility and it's real dangerous when you start to go the way of people becoming obsessed with that falsehood.
tim pool
Right.
elisha krauss
And I think it is bad for society.
tim pool
All right, LaPoolOfDeathGaming says, how do I debate people who won't accept any news source that isn't their preferred source, especially those who love CNN?
Use CNN.
That's why I love using CNN.
So, you know, CNN reported on their producer who is, you know, trafficking kids.
On cable TV, they don't.
So also, I think you just got to understand if, you know, out of 99, out of 100 articles, 99 are leftist, and there's one that actually hits the nail on the head, use it.
And then be like, what are you talking about?
This is the Daily Beast.
Like, I don't know what you want me to do.
elisha krauss
New York Times even.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
The New York Times saying Joe Biden shouldn't be president.
elisha krauss
I love to post NPR stories.
Yes.
It's my fave.
tim pool
Now, they falsely frame things a lot.
But the point is, if you're debating someone and really trying to change their mind, you're not going to pull up Alex Jones.
Where he's like, turn the freaking frogs gay!
That's a little too much for the average person.
But you can pull up NPR saying something like, you know, Biden's economic plans have failed and the Build Back Better plan is over.
elisha krauss
Or CNN reporting on his abysmal approval rating.
tim pool
Right.
Or how about, you know, it happened only after the election, but the laptop.
elisha krauss
Yep.
tim pool
You know, after the auction, like, oh yeah, this laptop actually was real.
elisha krauss
I also, when it comes to COVID stuff, I love to just pull straight from the CDC's website.
lydia smith
Yes.
elisha krauss
People are like, wait, what?
Only, you know, how?
No, it's so dangerous to kids.
You're trying to kill your kids when you let them walk around without a mask on, Alicia.
And I'm like, well, but how many children have died?
And they're like thousands.
And I'm like, well, actually, screen grab.
Here you go.
Not true.
lydia smith
Exactly.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
Rock says, can we stop praising DeSantis who signs and supports anti-free speech laws, silencing people in companies that support boycotts of a foreign nation?
I'm not a fan of that.
luke rudkowski
Not a fan of that.
tim pool
Yeah, not a fan of it at all.
luke rudkowski
He deserves criticism for that.
elisha krauss
Can we cycle back to what we talked about when we were talking about MLK and the affairs and stuff and how nobody's perfect?
Yeah, yeah.
I would much rather take that than, you know, other Republicans who are anti-2A and do other things too.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
Let's grab something good.
Tyler says, this is to Ian.
I am sorry for the tone of previous criticisms.
I have newfound appreciation for your contributions.
ian crossland
Thank you, sir.
tim pool
Well, there you go.
elisha krauss
Anything else to add to you?
tim pool
Moderator Blue says, had a dream once Joe Biden made an address and said, American people, it's been found our dollar value is a Russian asset, so we will use the full power of the federal government to put a stop to it.
luke rudkowski
That might be happening right now with the moves that they've been making.
elisha krauss
I'm sorry that those are your dreams, man.
Dreams are supposed to be good, happy things.
ian crossland
Yeah, that was like one of those news articles.
luke rudkowski
Those are interesting and creative.
Those are cool dreams, I think.
ian crossland
The US dollar is a Russian asset.
luke rudkowski
It's hilarious.
tim pool
Busy B says the parents or athletes would have never complained if the trans athlete would have been not good.
They would have been cool with it.
Everyone should have stood up from the beginning.
elisha krauss
Is the trans athlete allowed to use the women's locker room?
tim pool
I believe so, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, I think so.
tim pool
Yeah, I wouldn't imagine why not.
unidentified
Hmm.
Yeah.
elisha krauss
I would have spoken up way sooner than that.
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
There was one I saw before.
The Great Treasure says, great guest.
If you will not fight when you are most likely to win, you will fight when it is most certain you will lose because it is better to die than to live as a slave.
Churchill.
luke rudkowski
Absolutely.
tim pool
Interesting.
elisha krauss
Love me some Churchill.
unidentified
Yeah.
elisha krauss
He also liked whiskey and scars, so that's cool too.
luke rudkowski
That's great.
elisha krauss
And freedom.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
MZ Kim says, there's a huge difference between getting sued for violating EEOC by a private individual and the full force and effect of the state enforcing mandates.
elisha krauss
Yeah.
tim pool
Not true.
Wrong.
elisha krauss
Really though?
tim pool
Yes.
The EEOC comes at you as a state agency, not as an individual.
I've filed National Labor Board complaints against organizations and it is not me personally hiring a lawyer and going after them.
They get a call from the government who says, don't lie to us.
Here's what's going to happen next.
And they go, you, you, okay, okay.
unidentified
Huh.
tim pool
When you file an EEOC complaint, the government comes after them, not an individual.
elisha krauss
Interesting.
tim pool
So it's actually, I would actually argue, when you violate the mandate, you're going up against
one man, Bill de Blasio and his executive order, and then his underlings.
When you violate someone's, if someone's got a medical condition and they can't get, you know, so you fire them, now you've got city, state, and federal agencies you're going up against.
So I think it's clear as day that people fear de Blasio more than three different agencies.
New York City has a Human Rights Commission, the states has a Human Rights Commission, and the federal government has the EEOC.
elisha krauss
But when you have Kathy Hochul at the state saying that God wants you to get vaccinated and enforcing all these mask mandates and vaccine mandates and stuff like as a business owner don't you assume that you're really not going up against the three you're going up against it's like you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't like it's two and two at this point and then when you have the Biden like you really are odd man out.
tim pool
Rocking a hard place.
All right, let's see.
Pitsu says NYC will be the U.S.
gulag.
Perhaps.
I don't know about the entirety of the city.
elisha krauss
Are they going to build camps like in Australia?
ian crossland
The metaverse is the U.S.
gulag.
luke rudkowski
They have nowhere to put camps.
tim pool
I mean, they're getting rid of their prisons.
luke rudkowski
Well, he said they can't even run their prisons in New York City.
elisha krauss
De Blasio was going to, well, they're going to release all the prisoners and put unvaccinated people in there.
But he was saying that, uh, de Blasio wants to take all the buildings, like the vacant buildings.
tim pool
Well, he said he wanted to buy some of these cheaper buildings and convert them into public housing.
elisha krauss
A-K-A COVID prisons.
lydia smith
Yep, yep, I can see it.
tim pool
Well, there you go.
Alright, Steven White says, that's why you need to come to Tennessee.
We have nuclear with the Y-12 power plant and the hydroelectric with plenty of dams.
elisha krauss
I do like Bill Lee.
That's the governor there, right?
ian crossland
I don't know.
elisha krauss
Bill Lee is the governor there?
ian crossland
Tennessee governor?
elisha krauss
I'm a fan.
tim pool
Dawson Jekyll says, remember the movie Soylent Green was set in 2022 and in New York, you will be happy.
elisha krauss
I have not seen that one.
tim pool
Maybe.
ian crossland
Bill Lee.
luke rudkowski
It's also important to know anyone comes into New York City is tracked and databased because they have toll roads.
They literally take a picture of everyone coming in and out.
ian crossland
Easy pass.
Yeah, it's tracking your easy pass.
That's for sure.
luke rudkowski
So they could convert it to a prison very easily.
tim pool
Micah Young says there is a Ben Shapiro character in the Daniel Craig movie Knives Out.
It was pretty bad.
Was there though?
elisha krauss
Oh, so Ben speculated that Chris Evans' character was like supposed to be him.
Really?
tim pool
Chris Evans?
elisha krauss
Right?
Wasn't that who it was?
tim pool
No, Chris Evans is like six foot tall and ripped.
ian crossland
That's Captain America.
unidentified
Right.
elisha krauss
Yeah.
But he was in Knives Out.
He's like the rich kid.
tim pool
Can someone CGI Ben Shapiro as Captain America?
lydia smith
That would be fantastic.
tim pool
Like fighting the Winter Soldier?
elisha krauss
I would like that.
luke rudkowski
The guy before, though.
Before he became Captain America.
I think that's more likely.
unidentified
No.
elisha krauss
Let's be real.
luke rudkowski
Let's be honest here.
unidentified
No.
luke rudkowski
Let's be honest.
elisha krauss
Why does everybody rip Ben's eyes?
luke rudkowski
You worked with him.
tim pool
I'm not making fun of him for his size.
I'm making fun of the idea that someone would claim Chris Evans... No, I think it was the character.
elisha krauss
It was like the actual like demeanor and personality and like what he said about wealth and like education and stuff like that.
I think that that's what they're trying to do.
I watched the movie and I actually really enjoyed the movie and I didn't see the comparison.
tim pool
No, it can't be Chris.
Ben Shapiro is not like... Chris Evans' character is a narcissist and I don't believe Ben Shapiro is a narcissist.
elisha krauss
He's a thousand percent not.
tim pool
Right, so the Chris Evans character is like, I'm smarter and I'm better than you.
elisha krauss
But if you're a radical leftist, you watch Ben Shapiro and think that he's a narcissist.
ian crossland
The persona of Ben Shapiro.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
It was crazy watching Ben debate that dude, Malcolm Nance, on Bill Maher.
I wish it had gone on longer.
And I'm like, why would anyone support Nance, who is just being mean and snide?
elisha krauss
He just literally had zero comebacks.
He just looked like a like a Ben sure loser. We got to teach America how to lose again
tim pool
Ben shouldn't have said I sleep on piles of money though But I get it. Okay, you mean that did you do the life?
I didn't want that moment No, because you're trying to win hearts and minds when when
Malcolm Nance said is this what you do on your show because it sucks
Yeah, Ben said I'll think about that when I sleep on piles of money. Yeah, it's like dude if they're accusing you of
being a grifter That's not the route. You should go my response would be
like Malcolm like Please we were trying to do a professional conversation.
There is no reason to get derogatory and then he would have been like, okay
elisha krauss
Well, I actually, he could have tuned in.
unidentified
Yeah.
elisha krauss
This is why this many X millions of people tune into my show.
tim pool
I think like, um, you know what I often do on Facebook when people are agitated, I just, I just respond with like, I don't understand why you're being so mean right now.
And then they immediately like deescalate.
elisha krauss
I sometimes say Jesus loves you.
I don't have to.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
Wow.
tim pool
No, it's like, why are you being mean?
I don't understand.
And then they'll be like, well, I'm just saying, and I'll be like, I, you know, I know.
And so if someone was on the show and they were like, man, you sure do suck at what you do.
I'd just be like, look, I'm not here to tell you, like to insult you and be mean to you, man.
I just want to have a conversation.
elisha krauss
Yeah.
But we don't have to, you know, I'm not trying to make it seem like I would love to go to their job and be like, you suck at what you do.
All day long.
tim pool
But it was, it was still, it was really, really good.
I mean, uh, Nance did, I don't think he was like, um, the worst in terms of being able to respond, but he clearly, these people don't have answers.
They don't know what they're talking about, you know?
elisha krauss
No, especially, I think specifically in that conversation or debate or whatever you want to call it, like on the CRT stuff, like Ben was a thousand percent right.
Like you guys are trying to label it something else, but this is indeed what it is. And Ben is like from
another planet and has the ability to almost photographically remember all of the
details of these things and break down those arguments. Watching that debate
tim pool
I was just like, Ben Shapiro's got talent. When he was just rapid-fire with
unidentified
the wit and the answers and the recall, damn.
luke rudkowski
Super smart guy.
Don't agree with him on some issues, but super smart.
elisha krauss
How dare you, sir.
tim pool
Yeah, you better agree with him on everything.
elisha krauss
That's my brother from another mother.
tim pool
All right, I gotta read this one.
Rob Ingram says, to touch on your convo from yesterday, or was it Monday, about the death sentence for rapists and pedos.
Why should they live free while their victims live with a lifelong scar?
I wanna make sure, I feel like people aren't understanding, because we got a bunch of super chats from people who don't understand.
The reason I oppose the death penalty is because the government kills innocent people.
To put it simply, like I asked Ian, how many innocent people are you willing to kill to make sure that those bad people also die?
For me, the answer is zero.
I am unwilling to take the chance that the state is sanctioned to kill innocent people because it might kill many of the bad people.
Benjamin Franklin said it is better that a hundred guilty persons escape than one innocent person suffer.
If the bad person is locked in a steel box and can't leave, and the threat is zero, then I don't believe we should kill them.
It's bad enough the state convicts innocent people.
But if the number is one out of a thousand, out of every thousand bad people, really bad evil people who are convicted, one innocent person is locked in a steel box, I still feel that is very, very bad that we have locked an innocent person in a steel box.
But I will be damned if I'm gonna be the person who says, I'd like to sign off on killing that person next, because those people are really bad too.
So the way I see it is, we must neutralize the threat.
If there is someone who is a violent, evil murderer, and it's to the degree where they're like, there is no rehabilitation, there is no releasing this person, they will kill again, we lock them in a steel box and we throw away the key.
That way, at least, at the very least, You don't have to answer to anyone as to why you were willing to kill even one innocent person.
Because I believe, and I am not a very religious person, but I believe you are, that in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, that God said, if there's but one righteous person, I will not destroy this city.
elisha krauss
Yeah, but after he found zero righteous people, he still destroyed the city.
tim pool
That's exactly true.
And that's why I'm saying, if I can see, if I'm watching someone commit an atrocity, I will act in self-defense of that person with the use of lethal force.
If I see someone who has just gone on a rampage, they've killed several people and they're planning on doing it again, I will absolutely apply lethal force in defense of others.
But if there is a person and the state comes to me and says, I am a representative of the state, trust me when I say this person is bad.
I'll say, hell no!
elisha krauss
But don't you think that part of the reason why the state, I think it is a good thing that the state does do this in certain circumstances because you don't want armed vigilantes running around having cowboy justice?
tim pool
Well, why would that be the case?
elisha krauss
Because you have parents or families of people... I'm saying when the guy's locked in a box.
tim pool
I'm saying if the guy's out there, then I would... If someone abuses a child to an extreme degree and is running around and there's a threat to someone else and someone says, oh no, it's this guy and he's done these things and we know it definitively.
I've watched it with my own eyes and we've seen videos and everyone knows.
I must stop him for defense of others.
It's a very different situation to the state coming to me and saying, trust me as we execute this person.
elisha krauss
I wonder how people like Elizabeth Smart feel about that.
Like I would be very curious to actually talk to victims.
Or Natalie Holloway's mother.
tim pool
People seem to think I'm saying that we shouldn't kill bad people.
What I'm saying is there is no circumstance in which I will trust the state that the person they are holding in front of me is the guilty person.
elisha krauss
What is the statistics on that though?
tim pool
To me, it's irrelevant.
If there is a thousand guilty people and one innocent person among the bunch, I'm not going to sign off on that.
I will not justify even one innocent person being killed in the name of justice.
It doesn't ring for me.
I look at Blackstone, I look at, like you mentioned, the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Yeah, God made sure the righteous people were gone.
If I had omnipotence and I could know for sure what was in someone's heart and mind, it'd be a very different story.
I'll put it very simply for everybody.
If there was a child abuser and bestowed upon me was omniscience, for only the fleeting moment that I could see the man in his mind replying everything he did and confessing to it to me, I'd be like, pull the switch.
We cannot allow this person to carry on their ideas, the damage they've done to people, but the problem I have is with the state.
elisha krauss
But don't you think that there are people in the state, and I know some of them, who have that?
Who sit in the room with those guys?
tim pool
No.
elisha krauss
You don't think that there are any decent people?
Kamala Harris.
Okay, well, let's not go there.
And she had that power.
tim pool
They would have put Kyle Rittenhouse in prison for the rest of his life.
Kamala Harris kept a man on death row because they had evidence that would have exonerated him and she didn't want to look at it.
It's not even about the callousness.
It's not even about the error.
It's not even about them being like, we didn't realize he was innocent.
It's about people like Kamala Harris literally being like, I don't care if he is innocent, kill him, kill him.
And I'm like, dude, You've got really screwed up people working in government.
These are the people who are willing to say, I don't care if I kill an innocent person so long as we execute more people.
Kamala Harris, her office was denying parole to people because they wanted slave labor.
These people are evil and I will not give them the power to kill because they will kill the innocent.
luke rudkowski
People in the chat are saying that this is the real pro-life position to take.
If you're going to have pro-life views on abortion, this also should translate in this way.
lydia smith
So the difference between being pro-life and being in favor of the death penalty is that someone who is on death row has done something wrong.
Not true.
luke rudkowski
We don't know yet.
lydia smith
You're literally... If they are convicted of a crime, if they have been found guilty by a jury of their peers, if there's irrefutable evidence that they have done what they've done, a child before even breathing oxygen has done nothing.
elisha krauss
Absolutely nothing.
lydia smith
Nothing.
elisha krauss
You're the innocent person.
lydia smith
You're completely innocent by default and incapable of any kind of voice.
elisha krauss
If you're upset at Fauci for the Beagles, then you should be anti-abortion.
tim pool
And I want to point something out too.
I said this earlier on another segment.
One of the arguments I've often made is the challenge I have with anti-abortion legislation would simply just be where the government gets to be involved in... Protecting the innocent?
Well, that I understand, but the issue is if there's a woman who's got, say, an ectopic pregnancy or something, to what degree do we say the government has to be involved?
That doesn't mean that there's going to be a, you know, a government agent walking in and signing checkboards, you know, a checklist of... Well, to what degree is the government involved when a woman births a baby into the world?
elisha krauss
They really aren't, unless there's like a class action lawsuit and something happens.
tim pool
This is quite literally the point I'm trying to make.
The point I'm trying to make is that The left is willing to entertain almost every single circumstance that the government intervenes in medical decisions, even to the point where a doctor can't give you medication, or you can't buy medication unless a doctor signs off on a pad.
elisha krauss
Or you can't refuse medication.
tim pool
Or you can't refuse medication.
So I think the important point, and this is good, an important point for pro-life individuals, when the left says, I don't want the government involved in my private medical decisions, then why are you in favor of prescriptions?
The prescriptions are quite literally, you can go to jail if you forge one.
That is the government telling you, you are not allowed to take medication.
If I say, Donald Trump says this medication is something I should take, I should be allowed to take it, right?
If you on the left think you should not be allowed to, pharmacists should not give it to you, and the government should regulate that you can't have it unless it's signed off, then how is that any different from the government being involved in abortions?
The government is already involved.
Euthanasia.
You can't just go to a doctor and say, I'd like to have my life ended.
The government says no.
Now my issue, for the most part, is just there's a very difficult line.
As far as I'm concerned with that, I think people should be allowed to take the medications they choose and they want to, even if it's recreationally.
I'm very libertarian.
I don't like the government regulating all this stuff because Fauci doesn't know.
He does not know what's right for us.
That guy's been wrong too much.
Tough moral questions.
However, Oh, the point I was making earlier this morning and why I wanted to bring that up is that the reality is I don't think most people are driven by principle, but many try to be.
I think people just have moral lines where they're like, I don't know if I would be okay with that.
And sometimes it doesn't make sense.
I believe this is more, you see a phenomenon with the left where they're substantially, their principles are way lower than their emotion.
And then on the right, you have emotion way lower than their principles.
But that still means there are gonna be people on the right who will contradict their own principles because there are
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
certain moral lines They won't cross this for the left
They'll cross many moral lines because they're driven by emotion
elisha krauss
And I think all sides will cross a moral line when they become about the person and not the principle
tim pool
And I think you know You can get the staunchest anti death penalty person in the
world Have them witness one of these crimes and they'll be the
ones have them go in and look at all the prosecutors files And they'll be the ones saying, I'll pull the lever, you let me do it, I'll come in.
My challenge is, ultimately in that position with the death penalty, is state bad.
State not smart, state not omniscient.
If the Lord himself came to me and said, this person did these things, then I'd be like, well, I mean, honestly, I'd say, you know, you pass judgment, not me.
But if it was for the safety of the community, and we knew this person had forfeited their rights to due process, and it was definitive, in that case, I'm like, all right, well, I'm still not necessarily in favor of just killing someone if you've already subdued the threat, but I understand that.
ian crossland
Do you support jail, state enforced jail?
tim pool
Yes, absolutely.
elisha krauss
Yeah, so the issue here is... So taking someone's life away from them, but letting them have three square meals a day in a box is okay.
tim pool
Through due process.
elisha krauss
But ending their life through due process is no.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't agree with that.
And it's namely about, like, I understand a lot of people are like, look, these people are so evil, they should not be allowed to live.
And I'm just like, I'm not the person who thinks I have a right to determine who has a right to live or not.
If the threat is subdued, we contain it, then we can carry on.
elisha krauss
A part of me thinks it should be up to the victim's families.
lydia smith
Interesting.
elisha krauss
Because there have been cases where you have, you know, guys who murdered teenage girls and then there's like this incredible forgiveness and restoration and healing where the parents come in and they like minister to them and then they're friends and then they, you know, get them on a work release.
And like those kinds of, I'm not that good of a person.
If it was my kid, I'd kill you myself.
Like I would be like that dad in the Larry Nassar courtroom that jumped over the bench to beat the you know what out of him.
And I think that a part of this is I think it goes back to like America's roots and like good old fashioned well biblical Judeo-Christian values and then the good old West of like you do you done wronged my family and like eye for an eye here.
tim pool
So Rob Ingram says, I get your reasoning, but you can avoid the government executing innocent folks by ensuring they are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
Beyond a reasonable doubt.
Also, show all proof in a televised trial.
But beyond a reasonable doubt is exactly the opposite of definitively true.
Beyond a reasonable doubt just means an average person says this is the most likely scenario.
It is beyond a reasonable doubt.
However, there are many people who have been convicted of crimes.
There was one I was watching recently about... I can't remember who covered this.
A security guard heard a gunshot.
Called the police.
The police came and found a dead young woman.
They blamed the security guard, and then they prosecuted and convicted him, and he went to prison for 18 years.
Later, it turns out, the state knew that there was a gang that was robbing the neighborhood and was there, but they just wanted a prosecution.
So beyond a reasonable doubt, yes.
When they went to the jury, and they said he was there, he was armed, he was, you know, the only person at the scene, and they said, here's exactly why, and the jury said, well, it's proven to me beyond a reasonable doubt, and the dude was innocent the whole time.
And they took away 18 years of his life.
So I'm actually in favor of this.
Absolutely.
They don't, they typically don't pay people who are convicted, who are innocent because
they say we didn't do anything wrong.
I don't care if the state wants to deprive someone of life, liberty, and the pursuit
of happiness.
And it turns out they were wrong.
They should be responsible.
elisha krauss
Absolutely.
I would agree with that.
tim pool
Yeah.
So I actually think this.
If someone is arrested for a crime, and they're going to be held without bail, they should be put up in a standard, like, three-star hotel room.
Not literally a hotel.
But their detainment should be a nice bed with turndown service, a TV, access to the internet.
Because taking away someone's access to communications on the basis of presumption of a crime, without proving it, I think is wrong.
ian crossland
Well, if you storm in a three star, you're gonna get people committing crimes that are destitute, because it's better than where they, the hellhole that they live.
tim pool
Yeah.
I mean, these are the challenges.
I would, sure, fine, whatever.
ian crossland
Some people will keep committing crimes to go back to jail because they feel more at home there.
tim pool
No, because when you actually get convicted, then they bring you to the, you know, less nice place.
My point is, Kyle Rittenhouse was in jail for three months with no shower.
Yeah, he should have been in a normal, I'm not saying give him a luxury condo, I'm saying give him a nice bed of TV and the internet because it turns out, guess what?
He was innocent.
He was acting in self-defense.
He was found not guilty by a jury of his peers.
So with that being said, why did he spend three months locked down?
There are people who go to jail, they get sentenced to three months for their crimes.
Kyle Rittenhouse spent three months in jail and he was innocent.
I agree with that.
elisha krauss
There should be a payout for those types of people.
tim pool
Yeah, I think they should pay him out.
elisha krauss
The problem is, is then when you have the Casey Anthony type cases, where you're or the OJ Simpson, where you're like, where do you draw the line?
tim pool
I'm going to say one more thing on this.
Matt Armstrong says, ban all abortions in the US, it is genocide.
My final thought before we go to the member segment, I believe if there is going to be a civil war in this country, I'm sorry, we're in a cold civil war, it's an information war for sure, but if it becomes kinetic, I believe abortion will be the moral catalyst.
Here's my timeline for potentialities.
I'm not saying it's true.
I'm just saying Supreme Court has already signaled they'll overturn Roe v. Wade June 2022.
At least that's what the left is saying and that's what NBC and many other outlets are saying.
Then you get a red wave in November and a bunch of Republicans in the Senate and Congress pass a federal abortion ban now that Roe v. Wade has been overturned.
But Joe Biden vetoes it.
The 2024 election results and the Republicans saying the first thing I will do is I will sign this bill, the ban abortion bill.
Then you'll get blue states saying, we will not abide by this federal law.
elisha krauss
Well, yeah, you already have Newsom saying that California is going to be an abortion sanctuary.
tim pool
And then you're going to get federal law enforcement by red states demanding it be ended because it's a moral evil.
But as I stated, Democrats on the left aren't going to storm red states to set up abortion clinics.
But red states, National Guard, law enforcement, feds will go in to shut down illegal abortion clinics should a law get passed.
So that's my potential timeline.
And if those things were to pass, then I believe you could end up with states trying to secede and things like that.
So that's just my final thought on that one.
But we got to go to the members only.
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At Elisha Krauss on all social platforms.
Elisha Krauss, not Alisha Krauss.
tim pool
Alisha Krauss!
unidentified
Yep.
luke rudkowski
We're gonna mess that up.
And just so people know, I have my own media organization.
I released two videos today.
One, a daily news video, and another very important one about talking points that you could share with your loved ones when you're meeting with them over the holiday season.
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Hope to see some of you guys there.
Thanks for having me.
ian crossland
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Check out my social media accounts from there, and I will see you later.
lydia smith
Very wonderful, spirited lady conversation tonight.
I really enjoyed your company, Alicia.
unidentified
Thanks.
lydia smith
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tim pool
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Thanks for hanging out.
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