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Oct. 22, 2021 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Alec Baldwin Shot And Killed Woman, NEW Information Drops w/Viva & Barnes
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luke rudkowski
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robert barnes
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tim pool
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lydia smith
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unidentified
Big news.
tim pool
Alec Baldwin shot and killed a woman on the set of the film Rust, and we've got a whole bunch of new details coming out, and we've got a lot to talk about.
It turns out, a couple new details, it was a live round, and apparently the crew had walked off set the day, I believe days prior, because the gun had misfired before.
So here we go.
I'm gonna say it.
Alec Baldwin is more than 100% responsible for this.
We'll get into all of these details.
I don't want to just rush into it, you know, headfirst.
We've also got some other really, I guess, more ridiculous news.
Interestingly, Joe Biden came out with this PSA where he's speaking with a disabled man who is saying that thanks to Build Back Better, he's able to have his, you know, his live-in assistants helping him live the life he does.
And the man's name is Brandon.
And so a lot of people think, you know, this is an out-of-place PSA.
This is the Biden administration's attempt to reclaim the name Brandon.
And I'm willing to predict that the media is going to say anybody who says, let's go Brandon is clearly mocking a disabled man.
Okay, this should be funny.
We got a lot to talk about.
We got some awesome friends who have joined us.
We got Viva and Barnes.
viva frei
This is, I was telling you earlier, this is a surreal experience.
I've met Robert for the first time tonight, you Tim for the first time, and the team for the first time tonight.
So two years we've known each other and now we finally get to meet in the flesh.
tim pool
You've been basically locked up in the gulags of Canada.
For your entire life, I believe, right?
viva frei
Well, I didn't realize I was locked up until the last two years.
And then I realized we were locked up when I was asked for, you know, documentation to travel from Quebec to New Brunswick.
But getting here was a journey.
I had to get, you know, proof from you guys that I was coming down for legit non-vacation reasons.
Negative rapid test.
I brought papers just in case they asked.
And I got through the customs and it was a good feeling.
tim pool
Let's get in depth on that later on.
We'll jump into that.
We got Robert Barnes.
robert barnes
Yeah, glad to be here.
tim pool
Yeah.
What's your story?
I mean, you guys should introduce yourselves, I guess.
robert barnes
Oh, yeah.
So, Robert Barnes, Barnes Law.
This is Viva Fry.
So, the vivabarneslaw.locals.com.
I mean, it's great to be here.
It's great.
It's finally good to meet up.
I mean, basically, it was two and a half years ago, Viva covered Alex Jones's deposition.
And I was Alex Jones's lawyer at the time.
And then all of a sudden, the pandemic happened and the world went crazy.
viva frei
Well, there you go.
It was the coolest thing.
I was so naive at the time.
In the background, I heard, I like your work, Mr. Barnes.
There was the other lawyer who said it after the deposition.
And I only put it together after like the first time we spoke.
But yeah, Barnes was the lawyer in the background of that Alex Jones deposition.
Who was the deposing lawyer?
robert barnes
A complete nut job.
I'm a complete lunatic.
I can say that now because I'm not part of the gang.
Just a complete, just a whack job all the way.
Mark Bankston.
Just sort of lefty, hardcore, had a fake anonymous Twitter account where he was saying all the things he was accusing other people of doing.
I mean, just insanity.
tim pool
So you guys are lawyers.
You comment on cultural issues in law, and it's really fascinating how people, you know, I know I love watching your videos because I'm like, I need to understand this, you know, someone who's actually a lawyer.
But you're Canadian, so it doesn't count, right?
viva frei
I'm Canadian, and I was looking into the U.S.
stuff to try to make sense of it for myself, and then that's, you know, how I fell into the niche.
It's just trying to understand Jussie Smollett's deferred prosecution agreement.
tim pool
Right.
viva frei
That I realize other people don't know what it means.
And so I'm a lawyer, not a U.S.
lawyer.
I can make sense of these terms and then explain it to people who don't understand.
tim pool
We got it.
We got it.
This will be helpful when we talk about the Salek Baldwin stuff.
So we're definitely get into it.
I definitely want to approach that from a Gun connoisseur perspective, but I think you guys will have a legal perspective, which would be interesting.
viva frei
And you as a Canadian probably have a lot of questions, in fact, about how... Yeah, I'm going to be the know-nothing when it comes to guns, because I know nothing when it comes to guns.
tim pool
But knowing law should be interesting because you can ask those questions.
So we'll get into all that stuff.
We've got Luke.
luke rudkowski
You're Canadian.
You get a pass.
Today I'm wearing one of the most classiest shirts from my collection.
lydia smith
Indeed.
luke rudkowski
and it states tax this Danny, tax this Danny
and I have my family-friendly tape here so if you really want to know what it
says you can find out by going to thebestpoliticalshirts.com Thanks for having me, and I'm looking forward to this conversation.
ian crossland
Oh, man, me too.
Ian Crosland, of course, here.
What's up, dudes?
I'm glad you guys are here.
In the flesh, this is great for the first time, and I don't want to waste any more time.
viva frei
Let's go.
lydia smith
I am so excited to be the one facilitating these two guys' meeting.
It was like an act of God to get all of this lined up in time, just like our event tomorrow, so I'm stoked to have you guys here.
We'll have a great conversation.
tim pool
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Let's just get into it.
Let's talk about some news.
We got some new information on the Alec Baldwin shooting from the LA Times.
Rust's crew describes on-set gun safety issues and misfires days before fatal shooting.
In fact, they say hours before the actor, Alec Baldwin, fatally shot a cinematographer on the New Mexico side of Rust.
With a prop gun, a half-dozen camera crew workers walked off the set to protest working conditions.
The camera operators and their assistants were frustrated by the conditions surrounding the low-budget film, including complaints about long hours, long computes, and collecting their paychecks, according to three people familiar with the matter who were not authorized to comment.
We're also learning, I believe we have this story, it's from People.
Now this is, normally I don't care too much about the pop culture stuff, it's not policy.
But this is Alec Baldwin, an overtly political actor, a violent and angry individual online, who has been a very prominent activist.
Whether you like it or not, or you think it's silly, he has been.
He is, you know, look, many of these people, I don't wanna say him directly, but I'd assume him, along with many others, are anti-gun, and this is how it manifests.
They wanna play with weapons on set, and they don't wanna take responsibility for it.
So this is a gun issue, it's a political issue, and now I'm seeing all of these people tweet at me, it's not Alex Baldwin's fault.
No, no, no, I said it's more than 100% his fault, because not only, at the time, when I said that, if the gun is given to you, it is in your hand, you're responsible for what comes out of it, Period.
That doesn't mean he's a murderer.
It just means he's responsible.
It could be negligence, it could be manslaughter, or it could be accidental, but it's on him.
The other issue is now that we're learning that the crew had been describing gun safety issues already, if he was not aware of that when he was handling a weapon, his fault.
viva frei
So here's my one question as an ignorant Canadian.
I took a firearms safety course, but when I saw the term misfire, I just asked the question, is it not firing when it's supposed to, or is it firing by accident?
ian crossland
I look this up.
A misfire means that it doesn't fire at all.
Then there's a thing called a hang fire where it doesn't fire for about 30 seconds and then it fires.
I don't know about if it just goes off without even touching it.
If that's also considered a misfire, I couldn't figure that out.
luke rudkowski
Well, another thing we have to add to this discussion is that if someone knows gun safety If someone knows how to use guns, if someone is properly trained on how to use guns, they could prevent a lot of these incidences from happening because you know, hey, I got a real gun, I got real bullets, and you know the difference between fake bullets, dummy bullets, fake guns, prop guns, and real guns.
So this is a huge tragedy.
We're hearing other reports that Alex said, why was I given a live gun after this incident?
So again, I have to kind of say here... I think he said hot, didn't he say?
Yeah, I believe something along those lines.
The reports are still coming in.
The police say that they're still investigating all of this.
But it is very prominent that a lot of the people who are the most anti-gun don't know anything about guns.
And that's something that should be stopped immediately.
And people should take some time and learn about them.
Because, I mean, these incidences could be prevented with just information and knowledge.
But sadly, a lot of the times we can't even talk about these issues.
tim pool
So I tweeted that it's Alec Baldwin's fault.
I didn't say he should go to prison, I didn't say, you know, in one tweet I have expressed that, you know, he should be charged to a certain degree.
There should be an investigation, I'll put it that way.
But I get all these lefties, these, you know, because they love Alec Baldwin, because he is in their tribe, they're like, it's the prop master's fault.
And I'm like, PropMaster wasn't holding a gun.
It's crazy to me.
People then said, so Tim actually believes in more gun control now?
And I'm like, yo, I'm pretty sure it is the two-way advocates who are the ones demanding responsibility for gun owners, not the government imposing restrictions on the people.
robert barnes
Well, we'll just contrast it to the Kyle Rittenhouse case.
I mean, Kyle Rittenhouse actually knew how to use a gun, only used it in self-defense purposes, and they were eager for him to be prosecuted with every imaginable crime, even crimes that didn't apply to him under the constitutional circumstances.
And yet, here you have a celebrity, a high-profile personality, overtly political over the last decade, who chose to be very anti-gun, who killed somebody because he didn't have basic training.
And that's it.
viva frei
That's right.
I mean, I don't even understand how they have a live gun on a set.
I appreciate it's a prop, and that to me means there should never be anything near bullets in it.
So is it shooting a shell of a blank?
luke rudkowski
Bullets are banned from these kinds of movies.
So how did this happen?
I mean, there's a lot of accusations about how the workers were treated here.
There's a lot of accusations about scabs.
tim pool
Crazy.
luke rudkowski
There's a lot of, you know, a lot of implications with people just being brought in out of nowhere.
So, I mean, this happened before.
It's not like this never happened before.
This happened to Brandon Lee.
Bruce Lee's son was shot and killed because of another accident where someone had a live bullet on, you know, the production facility.
So they made sure to ban all live bullets from production facilities.
And this happened again.
tim pool
I don't think it's an accident.
I'm not saying it was an intentional murder or anything like that.
But, you know, when I'm thinking about this story, I got my biases, all right?
And I'll tell you one of them.
We've got some replica guns here.
We've got Airsoft.
We have actual mock replicas for basic training purposes.
It's like a piece of metal that just slides back.
It doesn't really do much.
And, you know, I was just explaining to Viva and Barnes before we started the show, like, I'll ask someone, like, hey, you know the gun safety rules, right?
Never point at anybody.
Finger off the trigger.
The gun is always loaded.
And I'll hand them the weapon, and the first thing they always do is just like, oh, wow.
And I'm like, your finger's on the trigger, and you're pointing it at people.
You see, you failed the test when you do that.
So they say, oh, but Alec Baldwin's got training and he's safe.
My assumption is that he was goofing around.
He did not respect that weapon.
He clearly did not check it.
If they're saying it was a live bullet, that means he didn't open it up and say, you gotta be handed the, okay, if you're getting a revolver.
The revolver should be open, pointed down, handed to you by the armorer of the set, the prop master who says, this is a Colt .45, loaded with .45, you know, a .45 long Colt revolver.
We are closing the revolver now.
When you pull the trigger, it will fire a live round.
He's handed a gun he doesn't look at.
He doesn't open, he doesn't check, and then it misfires, whatever that means.
viva frei
I'll play devil's advocate because I really don't like Alec Baldwin, but setting aside the politics is overt, you know, hateful rhetoric, irrelevant for the time being.
If I'm Alec Baldwin and I'm a Hollywood actor, and someone says, this is a prop for a scene, here you go, take it.
Look, I don't even know how I'm supposed to know that it's a real lie.
tim pool
Let's make a legal argument out of it.
A legal argument out of it.
I hand Ian a loaded gun, and I say, don't worry Ian, it's not loaded, you can shoot Viva.
And then he does.
Will Ian get in trouble?
viva frei
If, well, at that point, a loaded gun, or sorry, a real gun, I would say yes.
But if you say it's a prop, I don't even have a reason to know that it's a real gun.
I would say you're the one who's going to be guilty of setting up something cataclysmic.
Cause if I have no reason to believe it's a real gun.
tim pool
Do you think a court would, would tell, like, if I say this is a prop gun, don't worry, go ahead and point it at him and pull the trigger.
The court's going to be like, no, no, it's not Ian's fault.
He was just pointing a gun and pulling the trigger.
Someone gave him bad info.
robert barnes
If Alec Baldwin was a 20-year-old actor who'd never done anything before, that might work.
But the problem is, he's been around for too long.
So he does know exactly what a prop gun is.
I mean, if I was looking at prosecuting him, I would be looking at that experience, and that would be the problem.
tim pool
It's not just prop guns.
Sorry, sorry.
There was a comment from someone, I think someone who's worked with Baldwin, who said they worked with him before, they knew he was well-trained and very safe.
That's actually a really good point.
You could argue there's no way he wouldn't have known.
luke rudkowski
There's also a difference between blanks and real bullets.
You could tell the difference just by looking at them.
You know, blanks obviously don't have that top part and that projectile that goes in.
The bullet?
Yeah, the bullet!
So obviously the two are very different and if someone, you know, just checked, someone just looked at it, and especially if he's just picking up a firearm, I mean, I wish he would have checked.
tim pool
But here's the other thing.
My understanding is they never actually point the guns at people anyway.
viva frei
That's the other bottom line.
Even with my kid, we tell him not to point the Nerf dart gun at people because you just don't do it out of habit.
I'm only giving him the benefit of the doubt that if he has no reason to believe it's a real gun holding live rounds, and I don't even know why that would be on a set, how it gets there in the first place.
And you may have cumulative responsibility here.
One aspect of negligence coupled with another.
How did it get there?
unidentified
Everybody can get sued from a civil perspective.
tim pool
I'm kind of wondering about a criminal element here.
viva frei
Sabotage is an interesting, creative thought.
tim pool
I didn't even think about that.
You've got a crew that's walking off protesting, saying the conditions are bad.
You've also probably got low budget people who aren't being properly vetted.
Someone put a live bullet in that gun.
luke rudkowski
I mean, why?
Workers were sending out messages on social media saying things like, quote, I am literally on the show in New Mexico with him and the producers on that movie are treating the local crew like effing dog crap.
Family-friendly show, so I can't say that.
But that's exactly what one of the workers, a part of this crew said, and he goes on and he details a lot about a lot of bad conditions.
tim pool
I'm doing a little bit of speculation here, too, but we were asking, you know, everybody's been asking, like, what kind of gun was it?
What kind of round was it?
Here's my best guess, because we don't have all the full details.
We got this from IMDB.
A 13-year-old boy left a fend for himself and his younger brother following the death of their parents in 1880s Kansas.
All right.
Well, what kind of gun would they be using in a movie about the 1880s?
I'd imagine it's going to be a revolver.
I'm not an expert on this stuff, but I'd imagine that he was armed with a .45 Long Colt.
And so I guess what happened was the single bullet hit the woman and then it went through her and then hit the director as well.
And he didn't have life-threatening injuries.
He went to the hospital.
Some people were speculating that it was a blank, and it shattered the camera, sending shrapnel into her or something like that, but now we have the article from People, apparently Union was saying it was a live round.
luke rudkowski
A live round that went through one person, and then hit a second person that went to the hospital.
tim pool
And so Luke mentioned this, Luke was like, it must have been a 45, and I was like, It went through one person.
I know.
luke rudkowski
So, I mean, there needs to be a lot of power.
viva frei
And I'm asking myself, why would the gun be pointed at the cinematographer in any case?
When I first heard the story, I thought maybe it was the stunt person involved, but why
would the gun have been pointing, been pointed at a cinematographer?
ian crossland
I'm thinking he was shooting towards camera.
She was right on the camera and he was shooting like right past it.
And the director was behind her on the monitor watching.
So they were both there in the line.
And he was just like, you don't even pay attention to the crew when you're acting.
It's like they're not there pretty much.
And so that was probably going through his mind.
tim pool
I think that's a good possibility.
You know, Nian's point.
Often when people are learning how to shoot, when they grip the gun incorrectly, they could squeeze their hand, causing the handgun to move in other directions.
So what I've been told when I've gone to these classes is that people will typically pull down.
When they pull the trigger, their hand makes the barrel point down.
But some people will pull left.
So if Alec Baldwin has the gun and he squeezes his hand, not knowing how to use the weapon, and it causes the barrel to shift to the left and she's to his left, he hits her.
ian crossland
One thing that's concerning is they called a misfire.
A misfire, by definition, means that it never went off.
So it wasn't a misfire.
It was maybe a hanging fire, or maybe it just got fired accidentally, which I don't think is considered a misfire.
viva frei
I still have great difficulty understanding why there's a live bullet in a gun on set of a movie.
Ever.
tim pool
That's why it sounds criminal.
viva frei
There's an interesting aspect, given the tweets set on, you know, the ambiance on the set, the environment on the set, it sounds like there might've been something else, like potential sabotage.
unidentified
Wow.
viva frei
But I would, before blaming Alec Baldwin, in as much as I loathe him as a politician, political character, I would say there should never be bullets on a set and it'll be everybody.
luke rudkowski
That rule already exists?
tim pool
Yeah.
So I don't know, man.
viva frei
If it wasn't followed, then there's going to be some production companies that shouldn't.
robert barnes
Sabotage.
Why didn't he know?
I mean, that's the problem.
He's done this a lot.
How did he not know there was something wrong?
tim pool
So do you think criminal?
robert barnes
I mean, he should be under criminal investigation without doubt.
tim pool
People are saying manslaughter.
viva frei
Well, civil, easily, against everybody involved.
robert barnes
Oh, against everybody, yeah.
But criminally, you'd have to investigate, and you'd want to investigate everything connected to her, whether there could be a backstory here, beyond the union backstory.
tim pool
I mean, you know, look, I don't want to jump the shark on our speculation, but having an affair?
Who knows?
robert barnes
You would definitely look at that, and you'd have to look at that.
luke rudkowski
There's a very interesting video of a crew with Will Smith looking at replica and fake alleged firearms, and you see one of the crew members pick it up and point it directly at Will Smith.
Will Smith smacks it out of his hands, grabs it out, takes out the magazine.
I saw this going around on Instagram.
takes out the firearm, puts it in the safe direction, takes out the magazine, and of course checks it to make sure that there's nothing in there, and then hands it back to the crew member being like, these people aren't following basic gun safety rules here.
But he was taking it seriously on a movie set because, you know, a lot of these prop guns are usually just real guns with blank bullets.
tim pool
Check it out, we got it.
This was Bad Boys.
And so...
Yeah, so you can see it.
luke rudkowski
It's going to happen now.
That guy points it right at his face.
unidentified
Boom!
Snacks it down, grabs it up, takes the clip.
tim pool
And then he does it right.
Thank you, Will.
luke rudkowski
And then he goes like...
viva frei
That looks like it might have been a set up promo for the movie.
I mean, that's good.
What was the other thing I was going to say?
I forgot now.
It'll come back in a second.
robert barnes
But I mean, he's done it too long not to have known something was wrong.
So he had to be out of it.
viva frei
Oh, this is what I was going to say.
For everybody out there, they should know also that having blanks in there doesn't necessarily make it 100% safe either from the Brandon Lee story.
tim pool
No, no.
That's the, I think, Hexum.
viva frei
Which is the one that had the leftover shell from the blank.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
So blanks kill you.
A blank will kill you.
So, I've got a revolver.
I've got the Governor, Smith & Wesson Governor.
And, you know, I went to a range.
I brought some weapons.
Asked the guys, like, give me the loadout.
Tell me what for.
And one of the things they said is, don't put your hands, don't hold the revolver with your hands where the cylinder is, because the gases in the explosion come out sideways, so you'll hurt yourself.
That's just the concussive force of the round.
A blank itself has enough power to kill you at close range.
So that story, I guess, is like a 1984 guy on the set of a TV show, had a gun with a blank in it, and he just took himself out.
ian crossland
The Brandon Lee thing, they had dummy rounds, which are improvised from live cartridges.
They have the powder removed, but in his case, they didn't remove the powder.
viva frei
Okay.
tim pool
All right.
We're going to do a hard segue off this topic because someone just, because I want to, but someone also chatted, Biden is a blank.
Okay, good enough for me, Biden being blank.
So I saw this tweet, and a lot of other people were commenting something similar.
This is President Biden tweeting, I'm fighting every day to pass my Build Back Better agenda for folks like Brandon.
His story is like so many I've heard across the country.
Folks are just looking for a fighting chance and to be treated with the dignity they deserve, and that's what my agenda is all about.
I saw this video, and my first reaction was, they're trying to hijack, let's go Brandon, And there's a disabled man named Brandon saying, thank you Joe Biden for Build Back Better.
It's because of this plan I can keep my living assistance.
And I'm like, that's just wrong.
This poor guy, this poor guy.
First of all, he didn't pass Build Back Better.
It's not going to happen.
Manchin and Sinema are saying no.
And it really feels like this was a PR campaign because Let's Go Brandon, for those that don't know, means F Joe Biden, and it's viral.
Viral.
Sports games, colleges.
Apparently I was reading like people at a gun range were all yelling it.
That one's obvious.
viva frei
So viral it's generating apparently fake news stories out of Canada which was some government agency out of Canada saying in a formal memo that you're not allowed saying let's go Brandon or any variation thereof.
Apparently it turned out to be fake.
luke rudkowski
It's my number one t-shirt seller.
My let's go Brandon shirt.
It's the number one that people are buying more than anyone else.
So this has caught on like wildfire.
robert barnes
Now it means this nice little disabled guy.
tim pool
Right.
GOP congressman ends floor speech with let's go Brandon.
Florida Rep Bill Posey signed off with a fist pump.
lydia smith
Spicy.
luke rudkowski
There's songs at the top of the charts talking about it?
I mean, this has caught on and there's something to say about this.
viva frei
What's actually terrible is you're not allowed saying it in certain places or it's become taboo.
Where?
luke rudkowski
In Canada maybe?
viva frei
No, no, social media.
You don't say it because it's a political statement now.
They still can't save for this guy.
His name may very well be Brandon, and now nobody can cheer him on.
You say hijacking, it might just be co-opting, or they might want to flip it around where now whenever they say, let's go Brandon, it's going to have a positive tone that Biden's going to be able to say, look, they're cheering on my campaign.
tim pool
Could you imagine if Biden ends up doing a video where, or like Jen Psaki, they'll play a clip of people going, let's go Brandon, you know, and then she's going to be like, people are really picking up our campaign.
They're really excited.
robert barnes
Well, it's memes come to life.
Because, you know, there's all the memes of Biden talking to Obama, saying they're cheering his name, they're doing all these things, they want to have sex with him.
That's what it all means.
And now it's going to be for real life.
Though Trump would have never made this mistake, just because the association is Biden with disability in such a way that, you know, I don't know if I would associate myself in that way.
tim pool
I feel bad for the guy, man.
robert barnes
Yeah, he's just being completely manipulated.
viva frei
He's being used.
He's being exploited for an aspect of identity politics that's just, it's just cheap politics.
Bring up people to garner sympathy, but also it's going to reflect poorly on Biden.
robert barnes
That's for sure.
Remind everybody of it.
I mean, why don't remind somebody of something that's a weakness?
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Yeah.
That's what Trump was really good at.
robert barnes
Completely.
Don't talk about, you know, rope in a house where there's been a hanging.
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
And that's why he would label people with names.
robert barnes
Yes.
tim pool
Sleepy Joe.
lydia smith
Crooked Hillary.
tim pool
Crooked Hillary.
viva frei
What was the other one there for Bush?
robert barnes
Low energy.
viva frei
And then he got Cruz was?
Lion Ted.
tim pool
And then my favorite was when the Trump supporters turned lion, like lying, into lion, like rawr.
They were like, he's Lion Ted, but it's the good one now.
lydia smith
Pretty clever.
robert barnes
Little Marco.
unidentified
Little Marco.
tim pool
Man, Trump was good at it.
robert barnes
He was, he was brilliant.
viva frei
And that we all remember them without much help is amazing as to how the branding worked.
tim pool
So this is interesting though, Trump was really good at memeing.
Like, the naming people.
Even now, with Trump, you know, kind of behind the scenes doing the Trump social stuff, people have just created another meme that's gone viral and everyone's laughing and loving it.
And I think when you see, we pulled up the Civics polling, Joe Biden's approval rating among independent voters is 26%.
robert barnes
He's just thinking like a rockably bad terrible terrible I mean when you see football games and they're chanting let's
tim pool
go Brandon like these are regular people these are not political individuals
luke rudkowski
Well the last time we saw this kind of same Similar culture jamming was with Jeffrey Epstein with the
memes with the messaging everyone's screaming Jeffrey Epstein did not
Kill himself do something himself and obviously But that caught on everywhere on national television.
People interrupted broadcasts.
People were bringing it up in just the most weirdest random points.
And that caught on because there was a major disassociation from the mainstream, from the narrative, from, of course, everything the establishment wanted you to know and think about.
And then people saying, hey, we're actually paying attention here.
You're full of crap.
We're going to let you know about it by putting this into the culture.
So this is another example of this on another level, which is pretty awesome and interesting to see.
viva frei
For the one viewer out there who might not know the whole story, it's Brandon Brown from NASCAR wins the NASCAR and everyone in the background is chanting F Joe Biden and the reporter says, hey, you hear them saying, let's go, Brandon.
unidentified
Wow.
viva frei
It's the Simpsons again predicting the future.
The Simpsons have done it time and time again.
Here it's Boo Werns.
It would be a joke if it weren't so darn funny, actually.
tim pool
I keep seeing posts where it's like, we live in a simulation because it's just become so, life is a parody of itself at this point, how stupid everything's become.
ian crossland
They call it a simulacrum.
It's like a false essence of a simulation where they're actively trying to show you a fake reality.
tim pool
Let's go, Brandon. It was so obvious that they were trying to be like, uh-oh, what do we do?
When I was on Newsmax, Sean Spicer's show, and they were like, they played the clip,
and you hear, beep, Joe Biden, beep, Joe Biden. I'm laughing because I'm like, the beeps?
Because we know what they're saying. I'm just imagining now, I'm sorry,
this campaign they're doing with this disabled guy, it seems so obvious.
viva frei
It's cheap and exploitive.
tim pool
But I will say, I will say, I would not be surprised if Biden comes out and tries claiming the Let's Go Brandon chants are for him now.
Because look, the people who support the Democrats are not going to back away from that.
And they'll be like, see?
And you'll be like, guys, it's not true.
Every time a story comes out about Trump, and it's proven to be false, or Fauci lies to Congress, and then you get all these Democrats on Reddit and Twitter being like, aha, Fauci's so smart, and you prove it's wrong, they don't accept reality.
They just point to you and say you're a QAnon conspiracy theorist, and I'm like, bro, I don't know anything about those guys.
But I'll tell you this, they're not the ones in CNN, they're not the ones in the White House or Congress, maybe like one or two people if you want to be very critical, but y'all, like, All of you, except for like a very small faction, are totally in on this insanity, this fake news.
robert barnes
Well, it's just redefining language.
I mean, it's to the point where fully vaccinated is now not going to mean fully vaccinated within a couple of weeks.
tim pool
Well, well, hold on.
What does fully vaccinated even really mean?
luke rudkowski
The CDC definition or the real life definition that other countries are using?
Because there's a difference.
tim pool
Well, so now University of Denver is going to mandate the flu vaccine.
So if they're like, are you fully vaccinated?
It's like, well, look, me personally, I've got a bunch of vaccines.
lydia smith
So many.
tim pool
So I don't know what full counts to you, but you know.
viva frei
To drop a little Quebec politics, François Legault, the Premier of Quebec, when he tweeted it out, he didn't use fully vaccinated, he used, it was in French, adéquatement vacciné, adequately vaccinated.
Which I astutely pointed out, that's great, that's nice fluff talk there, because that means two doses is not going to be enough very soon.
There's no question, it's going to be a constantly evolving term, and it's going to be absorbing other vaccines and other issues.
Now the government knows it can mandate what it can put into your body, And it's going to expand into other issues as well.
tim pool
The other day, Luke claimed that Bill Gates was funding a microchip that can make you fertile or infertile.
luke rudkowski
That could turn on and off fertility through a touch of a button.
tim pool
And I told him he was crazy until I googled it, and it's true.
robert barnes
Alex Jones!
tim pool
Bill Gates funded implantable contraceptives.
Contraceptive, right.
Microchip, but it's a contraceptive that you can control with an app.
And so actually, Innocently, you know, sounds great, right?
An individual who wants to, you know, a woman or presumably a guy wants to go on birth control, they can just turn their phone on and then when they want to have kids, they can turn it off.
But, you know, it just sounds so nefarious when you think about it.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, you know, Bill Gates and other people who believe in population control also having the ability to turn people's fertility on and off, you know, nothing wrong with that.
unidentified
It's 75!
robert barnes
It's just you take the Chinese social credit model and you apply it much broader.
Because what he did in India in terms of controlling people's biometric identification for purposes of financial access, for transportation, for travel, you just add vaccination to it.
luke rudkowski
One child policy?
tim pool
What you guys need to understand, what people need to understand is when you go on Twitter and you see the woke left, the establishment Democrats, that is the social credit system.
They are currently living in it.
And so that's why a lot of people won't speak out.
There may be people watching right now who are like, I can't stand what's happening around
me, but I'm not going to say anything.
Congratulations.
You live in the social credit system.
The only thing you're missing is the app so they can read your, your, your, your score.
But if you're going to abide by all of their rules and adhere to all of it, that's it.
luke rudkowski
Well, there already is a social credit score, but it's not like the people in China have
It's a corporate one here, when many corporations have almost every aspect of your existence written down, recorded, and then they have a certain score that they allocate you on how many advertisements they could sell you, but also your political stances, what you believe in.
Where you should be ranked in the algorithm, how much you should be promoted, where you're going to land on the news feed, even if you're going to be shown on the news feed.
So there's already a social credit score here in the United States with many multinational corporations that have implemented it with real life consequences because people speak wrong think and get punished for it.
Already real life consequences.
tim pool
Look, I think I'm going to have to ask you to be a little bit more sensitive to we have a refugee from Canada here.
viva frei
I'm going back on Sunday.
luke rudkowski
He didn't say sorry yet.
viva frei
Let me back in.
luke rudkowski
Why are you coming back?
Are you crazy?
viva frei
I got my family in Canada.
luke rudkowski
Get them out!
Go to Mexico!
viva frei
We'll see what happens in the future.
Canada's going off the rails now.
If anybody hasn't seen Trudeau's most recent... Going?
luke rudkowski
Has been.
tim pool
No, it's getting worse.
viva frei
Trudeau put out a tweet that says You know, when Health Canada approves the new vaccine, we're ready to go with it for kids 5 to 11.
So he's appealing to his own organization that's under federal control, effectively, to approve a vaccine that he's already purchased for the use that he intends on getting approval for, and tell me that's not a fact.
luke rudkowski
I mean, can you travel domestically without a vaccine passport in Canada?
viva frei
I think it's as of November.
12 years old and up, if you're not fully vaccinated, cannot take a plane or train.
luke rudkowski
That's crazy.
tim pool
So is where you live known?
viva frei
Oh yeah, I'm in Montreal.
Everybody knows that.
I just ran for federal parliament.
tim pool
So that's in Quebec?
viva frei
Yeah, it's in Quebec.
So if you want to go to Toronto, for instance, If you want to hop on a train, I don't know that it's in effect yet, but it's coming.
If it's not already in effect, you'll have to show your vaccine passport to hop on a train.
tim pool
It's province, right?
What provinces?
viva frei
Quebec, Ontario.
I'm in Quebec.
Then there's Ontario.
tim pool
If you enter onto Ontario, there's a border.
Do they check you?
viva frei
Not anymore.
They did over the summer, which I found enraging.
Politically, constitutionally enraging.
Interprovincial travel, which is a constitutional right under our constitution, They asked for papers, and they made us register.
They made us go back to Quebec, go online, register to go to New Brunswick for a portion of our road trip.
luke rudkowski
That's insane.
I mean, they brought up blockades, literally.
These orange little freaking... Armed guards.
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
No, no.
luke rudkowski
They brought these, like, what are they called?
The orange things that they fill with water that stands... Guards.
What?
Bollards?
viva frei
Cones.
unidentified
Cones.
luke rudkowski
No, no, not the cones.
tim pool
Jersey barriers?
luke rudkowski
Yes, they brought in a whole bunch of water jersey barriers in Australia, banning people from even crossing the street because there was an imaginary line between two different states.
Wow.
It's hysteria.
tim pool
It's insane.
You managed to escape.
I imagine you must have crawled through a tunnel somewhere on the US-Canada border.
viva frei
Actually, it was the US border.
They were very nice.
Three guys.
I mean, the whole team was very nice.
They looked sympathetic and understanding to the purpose of my travels.
But yeah, I mean, I had to show everything to get across for non-essential work.
As of November 8th, borders are going to be open, the land border, for non-essential.
But that means you're going to have to show proof of vaccination.
I think it's 12 or 13 and up.
Which basically means, you know, if you're not vaccinated, you're not traveling.
ian crossland
When you said it violates your constitution, you put it in quotes.
viva frei
I'm not trying to besmirch the Canadian constitution, but now I've come to grips with the fact that it seems now more like a recommendation for the government than a compulsion.
ian crossland
I wonder about the Queen's role in that.
Like, is it a recommendation?
viva frei
They were rights guaranteed by the Charter.
It's Section 1.
These are the rights guaranteed by the Charter.
They can only be infringed in as much as is justifiable in a free and democratic society.
And now it seems that in a free and democratic society, they can lock you up in a government quarantine hotel for three days and make you pay $2,000 for it if you want to leave the country.
luke rudkowski
Where there have been allegations of security guards doing unspeakable things to women, and there's many ongoing criminal prosecutions right now of those guards who are at these hotels literally opening up the door when women are by themselves.
viva frei
Can't have locks.
The doors can't have locks.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, the doors can't have locks, and security guards have assaulted many women in many of these situations.
viva frei
There's been a few incidents, but the quarantine hotels are no longer in force now, for now.
But it's nuts.
The rights that we thought we had, guaranteed under the Constitution, have all been systematically violated.
And now the ultimate irony is that in Quebec, English Quebeckers are complaining that their linguistic rights are being violated by Francois Legault.
And I said, like, you guys just let him lock you in your house after 8 o'clock for 5 months.
You think he cares about your language rights?
tim pool
Do you remember Spaghetti Gate?
viva frei
Which one is that?
tim pool
That was when in Montreal, there was an Italian restaurant that was serving spaghetti, and it just said spaghetti.
And the language police came and said, why isn't it in French?
And they were like, because it's spaghetti.
viva frei
Just as an illustration, I don't know about that case, but I had clients who had canned goods coming in from outside of Quebec that had the ounce abbreviation in English.
They had to put on a sticker that had the ounce abbreviation in French.
tim pool
That's the language police.
viva frei
They call them the language police.
It's the Office de la Langue Francaise and their enforcers.
tim pool
The enforcers of the French language.
viva frei
It's a unique province.
tim pool
So this is funny because you brought up that people are angry, their linguistic rights are being infringed.
What's the guy's name?
Francois?
viva frei
Francois Legault is the Premier of Quebec.
tim pool
Legault?
viva frei
Legault.
L-E-G-A-L-U-L-T.
unidentified
Legault.
viva frei
Legault.
tim pool
I can't speak French.
But, uh, so what is he doing?
viva frei
He's trying to, you know, make, he's trying to keep French as like... Yeah, he's trying to revamp an old law from 1977 called Bill 101, which created certain linguistic protections for the French language, which meant, you know, French had to be nettement predominant on public signage, clearly predominant, uh, and it applied to businesses of 50... So he's far right.
tim pool
Ultra-nationalist.
viva frei
It's an ironic thing.
I don't know how these measurements work anymore, but bottom line, this Bill 96 now, it's going to enhance language laws, it's going to cap the amount of French Canadians, French Quebeckers, that can study English in post-secondary education.
So this is how you protect the language, is by crippling your own population.
But the Anglos complaining about it now, I say you reap what you sow, and you should have been out there on the street doing Viva on the streets, complaining about the curfew for five months, but you weren't because you thought it made you feel safe.
tim pool
And now what's the justification?
unidentified
What?
tim pool
The government doesn't have a right to do this!
viva frei
Well, and he's invoking the notwithstanding clause of the of the Constitution which says you have guaranteed you have
rights and freedoms that are guaranteed by the Charter
Except we get to violate them if we specifically say in the law that we are violating those rights
And if you don't like what it's I start look it up. It's called the notwithstanding
with standing applause.
Clause Derogatoire in French.
And it basically says, if the government specifically says they're violating your specific rights, certain rights are not able to be violated, they can invoke this clause.
The law can last no longer than five years or a shorter specified time.
The idea being, if you don't like a totalitarian government, you'll vote them out.
Next election.
tim pool
This is ridiculous.
It's basically, CBC says, it's the notwithstanding clause, section 33 gives provincial legislature of parliament the ability through the passage of law to override certain portions of the charter for a five-year term.
unidentified
It's crazy.
tim pool
So imagine if that was like in the US, they'd be like, we're passing a law that will violate your second amendment rights because the constitution allows us to violate your rights.
robert barnes
Well, we kind of have over the last two years.
We've suspended the Constitution pretty much everywhere.
I mean, we've created a de facto emergency exception to the Constitution, which we've never had.
It's what led the Nazis to rise to power in Germany.
tim pool
Sure, sure.
But I think we've got to be a little bit more fair than that.
It was the famous quote from Patrick Henry when he said, Give me liberty or give me death!
Unless there's a pandemic.
luke rudkowski
Or a flu going around.
tim pool
Or a flu.
Or a flu.
Or, or, or, if we go to war in a foreign country, and Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson were like, oh, absolutely, I mean, we must get entangled in foreign, we must get stuck in foreign entanglements.
viva frei
Environmental crisis.
robert barnes
Right.
Well, I mean, especially, I mean, this was, our Constitution was formed when we had, what, seven smallpox epidemics during that time period?
I mean, so it wasn't like they were unfamiliar with the risk.
They were intimately familiar with it and decided we should not forfeit liberty for that purpose.
tim pool
That's actually a good point.
When people are like, George Washington mandated vaccines, my response is like, for his conscripts?
Yeah, exactly.
People who were forced to join the military?
Sure.
And interestingly, they still guaranteed our rights in a constitution, having dealt with a smallpox epidemic.
robert barnes
And didn't include that as an option going forward, which he could have.
He could have included a military exception.
He did not.
So the founders knew exactly what they were doing, and we've just abandoned it over the last two years.
viva frei
This has been my biggest learning curve in doing the live stream with Robert.
The genius of the Constitution, the US Constitution, the Bill of Rights.
I mean, it's fantastic.
And it took foresight and it took understanding.
When people first started saying Canada has no freedom of speech, they started telling me this, you know, back with Jordan Peterson and compelled speech.
Like, no, you guys are wrong.
We have freedom of speech here.
Then Mike Ward got sentenced, got fined $43,000 for making fun of a handicapped kid, Jeremy Gabriel.
You guys might be right and now it's on steroids.
tim pool
Yeah, it's crazy up there, man.
And it's cold.
viva frei
But the cold is beautiful.
It's a dry cold, as we say.
It's not moist.
tim pool
I'm surprised we don't have more radicalized Canadians.
Because you have harsh conditions and oppressive government.
That seems like a recipe for people to lose their minds.
robert barnes
Well, the People's Party, what, tripled the vote?
viva frei
The People's Party tripled the vote.
Nearly a million Canadians who voted.
Of the 16 million who voted, 800-and-some-odd-thousand voted for the PPC.
And then, Robert, you saw this.
After the election, people were asking, why would Justin Trudeau call an election during a pandemic?
It's a health crisis.
How could you call an election?
They went after, and are still going after, the PPC for a post-election party that they had where they got the Saskatchewan police to post, like the FBI's most wanted list, to post 11 pictures of people who attended an after party of the election night and asked for anonymous tips to identify the 11 individuals.
lydia smith
Was it January 6th?
unidentified
What the heck?
tim pool
Insurrection in Canada.
viva frei
An insurrection après election party.
They got the Saskatchewan police, Saskatoon I think, to actually tweet it out.
Help us identify these 11 individuals.
tim pool
You know what I find fascinating is that in France, they riot for everything.
But in Canada, not nearly as much.
How does it happen?
Here's the way I often explain it, with England, right?
The English, they come over, they colonize parts of the New World, and we inherit a lot from these original settlers, people who are willing to risk everything to come to a new world, risk death to build something with no guarantees, because they wanted freedom, for a variety of reasons, religious freedom or otherwise.
The French came over here as well, but Canada is very, very different from, you know, like France revolts, you know, the yellow jackets when they tried raising petrol prices.
luke rudkowski
The yellow vests.
tim pool
Yellow vests.
luke rudkowski
They're going through 15 weeks of protest right now against the VAX mandates with...
tim pool
So why doesn't Canada inherit a lot of that?
viva frei
I don't know.
And Robert and I have discussed it.
Like, even within Canada, you would think Quebec would be revolting against this more than perhaps the rest of Canada.
Crickets.
And I think, look, when you see people sitting outside on a park bench, double-masked, reading a book, the media has had its impact now.
And people believe they need these measures in order to feel safe and be safe.
And they've passed that point of no return.
luke rudkowski
Well, Canadians always say sorry all the time, so I think that has a big thing to do with it.
viva frei
But then we get Tom McDonald and some other good Canadians who don't say sorry.
tim pool
Seth Rogen's Canadian, and he's a dick.
ian crossland
Do you think it has something to do with the Commonwealth and the Queen?
Because Australia and Canada are getting rocked right now by this.
viva frei
We're not at Australia levels.
I just think it's like you get to a point where you feel that there's nothing you can do to step it back.
So you either are convinced it's necessary, or you're just beaten into passiveness where there's nothing you can do anymore.
ian crossland
Can the Queen just say, hey, your constitution is gone now, I control it again?
I don't think so.
viva frei
The Queen, as far as I understand, has only symbolic relevance in Canada.
ian crossland
That's what they say, but then she can also dispel, she can get rid of the Prime Minister if she wants.
viva frei
I don't think so.
But subject to error.
Nobody likes being wrong on the internet.
unidentified
Okay.
ian crossland
I'm surprised you don't know as a Canadian lawyer.
tim pool
Ian, if you want the correct answer, just assert one of them to be true and you'll get inundated with people correcting you.
ian crossland
I get different information from different people about the Queen's authority in the Commonwealth.
viva frei
My understanding is she has, it's symbolic.
It's purely symbolic and her face on our money is also purely symbolic.
It's not how it works in my understanding, but I know people say that, but no, we have our parliamentary system.
We make our laws and I don't think the Queen has any, Do they own a lot of real estate in Canada?
robert barnes
Like in London, I was shocked at how much royal family property they own everywhere.
viva frei
I don't know.
Because Megan couldn't come to Canada, so I'm not sure that they do.
tim pool
Interesting.
Did you guys see what's going on with Candace Owens?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Indy 100, Australians react to Candace Owens' call for US to invade.
Overcover restrictions.
And we also have this from Time.
US conservatives want to save Australia from COVID tyranny.
Australians aren't interested.
So the media is running this claim because Candace Owens made a joke where she was like, paraphrasing, she was like, look how bad it is in Australia.
I mean, when are we deploying?
Obviously I say that in jest, but you know, you look at, and so they're like, oh, publish it.
Candace Owens wants to invade Australia.
This is what, this is what happens when, when, when you have people who believe this, we're screwed, man.
robert barnes
Well, the other thing about it is, there's tons of complaints in Australia, but they know that if they say anything, there's some very prominent personalities, other people we've talked to, who've made it clear they can't talk about Australia publicly.
Even when they're not physically there because of what might happen to their friends or their family back home.
tim pool
That's how bad it is.
robert barnes
It is at that level.
viva frei
And I have friends and other people that I know in Australia and I ask them the question but I don't trust the answers because I do genuinely feel that they are afraid to even speak it on social media and DMs because they know it can be taken.
luke rudkowski
Police show up at people's homes for Facebook posts in Australia.
viva frei
I mean, freaking hell.
I'll shout out Avi Yamini who is a Rebel News journalist in Australia doing God's work is an understatement.
It's over the top there.
They show up to your house and they arrest you for organizing a protest.
tim pool
Quillette was considered to be the IDW publication when the intellectual dark web was all big and everything.
And they are completely defensive of, they are pro-mandate, pro-lockdown, pro-camp.
And then, uh, it was Mike Cernovich.
He tweeted out one of these stories, like a video of a guy being indefinitely quarantined.
And he was like, where's Quillette?
You'd think a Freedom, you know, publication would have a lot to write about.
And then someone said something.
My response was, oh, Avi Yemeni is, you know, on the ground.
He's covering these stories.
So there you go.
luke rudkowski
Let's call, let's call a spade a spade here.
What's happening in Australia is tyranny.
It's over-the-top, it's draconian, it's government literally forcing its will in the most nastiest disgusting ways on the people when the people don't want it.
There have been major protests, there have been major crackdowns against protests, and I think one of the reasons why politicians in the United States and journalists in the United States aren't really talking about it Is because they really want to implement some of the ... same policies here in the United States and you could ... see that they call for the same things the same mandates ... the same restrictions the same lockdowns and it's utterly ... insane out Melbourne just a few days ago announced that ... they're getting rid of their lockdowns they had 262 days of ... stay-at-home orders of people being locked down not being ... able to go outside people were screaming outside of their ... balconies just a few hours ago.
Because they lifted some of these restrictions and ... they allowed people to go out at night so again what's ... happening in Australia is just beyond draconian beyond ... 1984 China's literally blushing at what Australia is ... willing to do against their own people and for that other ... article to say the Australian people don't want this.
How do you know?
Are you talking to all the Australian people?
Because there sure as hell has been a lot of protests, a lot of people standing up, a lot of people speaking out, even though they face the full might of a technocratic police state that shows up at their door because they spread wrong think on the internet.
tim pool
Luke, the Australians don't want this.
They don't want liberation.
And I know because Time Magazine says Australian lawmakers took to Twitter to school American critics of the country's COVID-19 public health measures.
That proves it!
These lawmakers were elected by the people.
That means they're the will of the people and the Australian people are very happy that all this is happening.
robert barnes
What's extraordinary in the United States, and in most of the Western world, is how often they have not utilized the legislative process.
How often this has circumvented the legislative process, circumvented the judicial process, who have mostly sort of cowered rather than deal with it.
You just had executive orders by unelected officials who just basically put us in a real live Milgram experiment.
Let's see how much we can get away with.
Let's see how much people will tolerate.
Unfortunately, we found out a lot of people would tolerate much more than we would like.
tim pool
So I tweeted out, there was a picture of the quarantine camps, I think it was in Melbourne.
And someone said, quarantine camp, I put asterisk, concentration camp.
And then it was some writer from Quillette or whatever, and then, no no, it was Claire Lehman herself, she was like, we are not building death camps, blah blah blah.
And I was like, well I didn't say death camp, I did say concentration camp, trying to allude to what these things could be.
But then she ends up writing in the Spectator that, you know, popular American pundit Tim Pool says this, that, and otherwise, and I'm like, yo, if you really want to call me out, man, like, please do so, because I would love to point out how much of a coward Claire Lehman of Quillette is and how their publication are a bunch of cowards.
And I will tell you this.
I will say two things.
If Google ever came to me and said, show us your vaccine documentation or we're deleting your channel, I'd be like, Don't give them any ideas, Tim.
viva frei
But the issue is this.
I'm going to lose my thought again, Robert.
tim pool
I was going to say one more thing.
The other thing is if the United States was in the position that Australia was in with camps and permanent lockdown, I would be saying the exact same things I am now.
I don't care what the risks are.
They can come, they can come to my house and they can say you're going on indefinite quarantine and I'm not going to shut up.
viva frei
And you gave me time to think of what I was going to say.
tim pool
There you go.
viva frei
The media pretends not to understand a joke when they want to demonize the person who said it.
It was clearly a joke and they pretend that it was a serious statement and not to bring it back to the PPC.
Maxime Bernier, the leader of the PPC, at one point put out a tweet that said Maoists have invaded our government and are trying to take over.
Making a joke about how it looks like, you know, we're imitating China, Mao's China in Canada.
The Journal de Montréal or La Presse, one of the media, ran with it as though he was seriously saying we're being infiltrated by communists.
And the media, when it wants to lambe someone, pretends that a joke is not a joke.
Well, no, hold on.
tim pool
I think they genuinely don't know what jokes are.
I mean that literally.
I'm not being sarcastic or facetious.
I actually don't think they understand jokes.
robert barnes
That's Mark Rober's argument.
He argues that stated societies can't handle comedy.
tim pool
It's, so I tweet things that are often nonsensical, and they're all taken literally by the left.
And I'm just like, so I have a friend who is, I don't know if, I'm assuming we're still friends, a very prominent Hollywood personality who told me, messaged me saying, you need to understand that when you tweet these things, there are people who think they're real.
And I was like, please, please, if that is true, and I think it might be, we are in serious trouble.
Because like when I post something, I posted President Biden has Cornholio, because he did the Cornholio thing.
I said, who did this?
It's so disrespectful to the President.
You know what my favorite was?
When I said, impeach the Queen.
So it was like, I don't remember exactly what happened, but something happened with Queen Elizabeth, and I said, impeach Queen Elizabeth, and a website, News Guide Certified, ran it as fact.
viva frei
Personality Tim Pool calls for impeaching the Queen, and then I became adamant that Wikipedia include the statement, because it was a reliable source, it was fact-based, But in fairness, someone who doesn't know you and doesn't know your political leanings or your position might think you're a very sensitive individual who found it to be offensive.
Who did this to Joe Biden, it's disrespectful.
But things get taken literally on Twitter.
tim pool
Twitter is awesome.
viva frei
And then things, if you put in a hashtag sarcasm, everyone's like, oh, you think your followers are so stupid they don't know you're joking?
unidentified
Yeah.
viva frei
So it's a lose-lose.
tim pool
Have you seen Michael Malice's tweets today?
unidentified
About Alec Baldwin?
viva frei
It can only be good.
unidentified
I can't say some of his tweets when I was laughing like crazy.
robert barnes
Wow.
tim pool
I just tweet a bunch of, I tweet a lot of just like silly stuff.
I retweeted Shu on head.
She said, I effing hate liberals.
I don't have any other politics.
And that was just fantastic.
And she did it because this like liberal guy was insulting her because she was making fun of Al Capone or something.
Uh, I don't know, whatever.
Twitter is fun.
viva frei
Twitter is fun.
Now I got to go see, I'm glad I put my phone on the floor so I don't go see Michael Malice's tweets, but that's next on my list.
luke rudkowski
Oh, there's so many memes out there.
tim pool
Did you see his tweets?
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
So hot.
tim pool
Let me see if I can pull something out.
Michael, you troll.
Yeah, you Rapscallion.
I don't think I can.
lydia smith
No, don't read it.
luke rudkowski
I see a meme and I can't.
viva frei
They said comedy was tragedy plus time.
I don't know that there's been enough time.
unidentified
Oh, my.
tim pool
He's just been going off all day.
lydia smith
It's been great.
tim pool
I've got to be able to read at least one.
So you understand, like, what he's saying.
But I don't know if I can.
I'm trying to find one.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Okay.
I am calling for a total and complete shutdown of Hollywood film production until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on.
Hashtag Alec Baldwin.
The one below it is... I'm just gonna read it.
Screw it.
He says, in the culture wars, it's currently a draw between Charlottesville and Alec Baldwin.
robert barnes
Oh, that's brutal.
unidentified
That was brutal!
tim pool
Anyway, back to the main point.
When you are a rigid ideologue, you don't understand jokes.
NPC is probably the best descriptor for a lot of these people.
So like I was saying, I have a friend who's like, people don't realize you're not being serious with these things.
And I was like, isn't that really crazy?
So then I started tweeting after she told me this.
I started posting things on Twitter.
After I'd say a joke, I'd say, the above tweet is not serious.
I'm told I have to put this here because people aren't smart enough to understand.
Unfortunately, that may be reality.
viva frei
The other issue is...
At some point in time you appreciate how historically general populations didn't know of the atrocities that were going on in their own countries because of the fact that the media was being censored and strictly limited by the government.
And I can wholeheartedly believe that there are some Australians who don't even think it's that bad in Australia right now because they just don't know.
And they don't even know what's going on in their own country because the media can't report on it freely.
luke rudkowski
Even though they have to walk around with QR codes in some places to get permission to get into, and now they're implementing one of the strictest VAX passports than anywhere else in the world, where if you don't comply, you can't work in the public sector, in the private sector.
You go into a business that you're not supposed to be in, or a business that's indoor, thousands of dollars of fines levied against you and the business.
for just existing as a human being.
And again, what's happening there, there's police officers, when people are gathering for a protest, they just open fire with less lethal munitions and rubber bullets right away.
They don't even ask any questions.
Arresting people for walking in nature by themselves because they weren't wearing a mask.
tim pool
I mean, we got to talk about President Cornholeo.
So I tweeted this.
Whoever did this should be ashamed.
How disrespectful to our president.
So here's Joe Biden with Beavis's head, and for those that aren't familiar with what Cornholio is, on Beavis and Butthead, one of the best shows ever, of course, by Mike Judge, Beavis, when he had too much caffeine, would pull his shirt over his head, hold his arms to his sides at a 90 degree angle with fists, and he would say he was the great Cornholio.
Joe Biden did that.
He literally did it.
And I don't know why, but I will say this before we talk about just Joe Biden.
Going off of what we're talking about with Twitter and the silliness, there's a reason why I tweeted, whoever did this should be ashamed, how disrespectful to our president.
It's because I wanted to share the image because it's hilarious, but I also wanted to make it so the media had a difficult time claiming I supported it.
Because often what they'll do is when I tweet something out like with the Alec Baldwin thing, I said Alec Baldwin is responsible.
They started saying Tim Pool wants him arrested and charged and I'm like, I never said any of that stuff.
I just said, ultimately, you know, when it comes to guns, you're responsible.
It's in your hand.
So here, oh no, I was criticizing this image of Joe Biden as Beavis.
See, you see, you know.
luke rudkowski
I just post the image.
I don't give a damn.
tim pool
Yeah, but like, you know, so look, we've got the Zeppelin coming.
The famous story you guys probably don't know.
Everyone else knows.
I'm sorry if you hear me tell the story, but for you guys.
Wikipedia claimed because of some article I invented a Zeppelin that would fly around live streaming.
And it was just like insane because I never did.
I did work with drones.
And so from that, I guess someone speculated something, wrote about like a whiteboard idea we might have had.
Wikipedia for a year said I invented a Zeppelin.
They finally removed it.
They wouldn't remove it.
They said I wasn't reliable, even though I said I never invented it.
And so, you know, Ian and I were talking.
We're like, let's do it.
So, you know, Ian's been helping set this project up where we're actually, we have the Zeppelin.
It's coming.
It's going to be here in like a week or two.
And then we're going to retroactively make Wikipedia correct.
So I'll have to redo it.
So I look at how the media is fundamentally broken, how they shill for someone like Biden, and I understand how they do things, why they do things.
And understanding how these people in the establishment don't understand jokes, you really can just manipulate their ability to do certain things.
So in this instance, it's a tweet of me saying that you should be ashamed for disrupting the president.
luke rudkowski
I would say, I think the country would be better off with a Beavis presidency than currently what we have right now with a Biden presidency.
That would be my caption, but that's just me.
tim pool
Ian, what do you think about President Beavis?
ian crossland
Uh, well.
luke rudkowski
We would have toilet paper.
Guaranteed.
ian crossland
I have a lot of thought.
I feel like the reason I haven't been talking is because I feel like I'm going to be a wet blanket if I start talking right now.
I feel like text is so dangerous and can be used as a weapon.
Speech as well.
But in this instance, we still don't understand the power of text out of context, especially out of context.
And text If you don't, if satire, like you were saying earlier, be
careful, don't give them any ideas.
Like if you, if you make satire, like, hey, the, the, the oligarchs are coming for me,
then, whoa, you're putting that out there and they're going to be like, now's our chance.
So that, that, that me was actually pretty funny though.
tim pool
Beavis, Beavis is president.
What Newsweek said is the imaginary jetpack.
Went, so Newsweek wrote an article about the five strange moments you may, you might've missed.
The first thing I'll say is you might have missed it because nobody watched it.
The ratings were apparently like nightmarishly bad.
viva frei
I didn't even know what happened.
luke rudkowski
I didn't either.
I had no clue.
tim pool
Luke was watching some like army movie or something.
luke rudkowski
I was watching like History of the Roman Empire.
Way better.
tim pool
Isn't that amazing?
You don't even know what he's doing.
viva frei
How does CNN have the authority to do this given what they've been doing in terms of putting out garbage news?
How did they get the authority to have a town hall with Biden?
tim pool
I don't know, and Biden wanted to do it, but there's a couple other things, too.
There was a point where Biden said that corporations aren't paying a cent, and then he, like, made the OK sign and looked through it, and then started whispering for dramatic effect or something.
There was obviously—he said that he erased Colin Powell, and that Colin Powell—he says, well, I only won.
I won only because he was worried I was going to crash into him.
I think that's actually an accurate statement.
I'd be scared he would crash into me as well, so thank you.
He misspeaks on Taiwan.
This one wasn't that strange, but it was kind of funny.
Biden said, if China attacks Taiwan, we will intervene.
And the White House was like, stop!
viva frei
Don't say that!
tim pool
And then the last one.
What was the last one?
He forgets the name of the Long Beach port.
Now this.
I'm going to read you this quote, and I want you to take it in.
Quote 40% of all products coming.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
tim pool
I'm gonna start over.
This is from Joe Biden and I want it really to sink in.
Quote 40% of all products coming into the United States of America on the West coast, go through Los Angeles.
And what am I doing here?
lydia smith
What?
unidentified
Wow!
tim pool
Cooper interjected.
unidentified
That's it!
tim pool
What am I doing here?
viva frei
And then Cooper interjected, not to press him on his inability to finish a sentence or properly govern, but to give him the answer, because that's typically what you have an adversarial media do, is fill in the answers for the president who can't finish a sentence.
tim pool
What am I doing here?
You know what I'm saying?
viva frei
What am I saying?
Where am I going here?
That's what he meant.
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt if it were the first time.
tim pool
I think the problem is the media does that.
So when Joe Biden says, Trinidad and Shabba to pressure, the media, like, I'll give you a better example because that one's silly.
viva frei
That one was pretty good though.
tim pool
Joe Biden will say something like, We, you know, Americans, we gotta, come on, we gotta raise tax on the 1%.
And the media will say, Joe Biden said to raise tax on the 1%.
They won't show you that he struggled to speak, he stuttered, he stammered.
They'll put quotes in place.
And they'll put, we, dot, dot, dot, Americans, dot, dot, dot, need to tax, dot, dot, dot, the 1%, dot, dot, dot, because they have to cut out all of the things where he's screwing up.
If the dude literally says, what am I doing here?
That's not something you normally say.
You'd go like this.
Here's what I'd say.
40% of all products coming into the U.S.
on the West Coast go through L.A.
and, uh, what's the other one?
Long Beach.
They go through Long Beach.
I wouldn't go, oh, what am I doing here?
Now, if you're a senile old man, you'd say, what am I doing here?
And then, I gotta tell you, if that were me, with Biden, Cooper interjected, is it Long Beach?
Long Beach, thank you.
I respond with, Mr. President, you're on television, live, doing a town hall.
Is everything alright?
lydia smith
Whatever state he's in.
tim pool
Whatever state of mind.
viva frei
If it were the first, fifth, tenth time.
But it's systematic.
You can't ignore it.
It's out there and everybody knows.
Nobody's talking about it.
tim pool
I mean, we talk about it.
This is a funny thing.
You guys see the clip with Barry Weiss on CNN with Brian Stelter?
Of course.
So Barry Weiss, she's been doing a pretty good job, I would say.
She's been doing a pretty great job, actually, calling out this stuff.
And she was on CNN, and she was like, look at all the stuff that's going on with CRT and schools, and we can't talk about it.
We're not allowed.
And then Brian Stelter's like, What do you mean, not allowed?
People talk about it all the time!
And it's like, no Brian, you don't.
You never talk about it, you lie.
You get in the periphery, you ignore it.
He gave 10 seconds to Andy Ngo when Andy Ngo got beaten by Antifa because he had to.
He didn't do a segment on the dangerous journalist's face.
So no, people don't talk about it.
robert barnes
Well, no, I mean a classic example of this is the Kyle Rittenhouse case.
So people who have seen the video know the facts, know he's innocent.
However, if you talk to the average Kenosha juror, they don't know that.
60% of them presume he's guilty, and the reason why they presume he's guilty is because of mainstream media.
It's why we have to go through an extensive jury selection process in the two weeks just to get what he's constitutionally entitled to, a presumed innocent jury.
tim pool
We got this tweet.
lydia smith
Great tweet!
tim pool
Paul, Paul Begala.
That sound you hear is the shattering of the right-wing myth about POTUS not being sharp.
His wit, command of details, personal engagement are impressive.
He's clearly on the top of his game.
Not even recommending that folks inject bleach.
viva frei
Here's the thing.
I read this not knowing who this guy was.
I would think this was satire if I did not know who that was.
robert barnes
Yo, I know Paul Begala.
I worked in the Clinton White House in the summer of 1993.
Begala used to be an old-school populist.
He used to be indistinguishable from Steve Bannon.
He got a lot of money, became a corporate... whatever language you can use on YouTube.
tim pool
Trump never told people to inject bleach.
robert barnes
Yeah, of course not.
It was all nonsense.
I mean, it was a ridiculous exaggeration.
Now, partially Trump could have handled aspects of that better, but it's just they need to live in their own world to such a degree they have to now create their own world.
And it's going to backfire over time.
viva frei
I got a little flack for being a little critical of Trump on that video where I said when his excuse was that it was sarcasm was probably not the right word for what he was intending to do there.
But I swear to you, that could be as easily parody as seriousness.
Could you could you click on his profile so we could read the bios?
unidentified
He used to be James Carville's partner back in the day.
robert barnes
Oh yeah yeah he helped Harris Wofford win in 1991.
tim pool
235,000 followers, author of You're Fired!
The Perfect Guide to Beating Donald Trump, CNN contributor, counselor for President Clinton, dopey flunky according to Trump.
unidentified
That's true, he is now a dopey man.
tim pool
Joe Biden's town hall, he stuttered, he stammered, he was all over the place.
unidentified
He voted.
tim pool
Biden did not come off as strong.
The Cornholio thing was weird enough.
viva frei
It was very weird because I thought someone froze-framed it, freeze-framed it, and I didn't realize the video was still running.
tim pool
I think he may have been seizing or having a stroke.
robert barnes
That's why Rogan said there's no way he took the actual shot.
Because they're like, do you watch this guy?
You want to give him a shot?
And you want to see what he might do?
How he might react on live TV?
luke rudkowski
Well, there's a number of reasons why I don't think he took the shot.
And I agree with Rogan.
It's because there's too much risk if he actually did.
Because there are people who have adverse reactions to it.
There are people who do take it and pass out.
So if you're at the White House PR, if you're doing the White House PR, be like, Okay, give them the shot later, maybe, but give them some fake shots because the risk is too overwhelming for them to take, and they would never take that risk.
tim pool
I get the idea.
I just disagree.
I think the simple solution tends to be the correct one.
Joe Biden was on a soundstage.
They controlled the feed.
They could have given him the shot, and then they could just turn it off afterwards anyway.
unidentified
But there was journalists there, right?
luke rudkowski
Oh come on!
Yeah, a lot of them would have covered it up.
tim pool
Journalists!
luke rudkowski
Sorry, sorry, the government establishment repeaters that regurgitate all the diarrhea and hot trash that the government gives them.
Yeah, now I was learning about Caligula today.
He's the mad emperor in the Roman Empire and he suffered a brain injury Uh, but before his brain injury, he was actually known as a really great emperor, as a really great leader, a people person who gave the people what they wanted, was very diplomatic, was very smart.
Then he had this weird brain injury and then he went crazy.
He went mad.
He went through... He made a source of energy.
Exactly.
He went through He did a lot of things we can't even mention on this show.
This was a family-friendly show, but he had cognitive decline and utterly created chaos throughout the entire Roman Empire.
As I'm watching this, as I'm learning this, I'm like, holy cow, now we have a presidency That clearly the president is going through a major cognitive decline.
Clearly the man has two brain stints inside of his head right now as we're speaking.
Clearly he's not all there and we have utter chaos all around us.
tim pool
We gotta keep the focus on CNN, my friends.
Check this one out.
Joe Rogan calls CNN's Don Lemon a dumb mother...
For doubling down on a horse dewormer narrative, saying, you can't allow people to say things that are absolutely untrue when you have an effing news organization, Rogan said.
Well, Joe, Don Lemon doubled down and claimed that you did in fact ingest horse dewormer, which is a lie.
And you thought that was bad?
CNN tripled down.
CNN defends Joe Rogan treatment in fiery statement.
Eric Wemple of the Washington Post accurately points out CNN is acting more like an advocacy group than an actual news organization.
He says this, CNN statement sounds more like the work of an advocacy group than a journalism outfit.
The issue actually begins and ends the integrity of CNN's content.
He says if we take Rogan's prescription claim at face value and CNN hasn't challenged it, the network's coverage was slanted in some cases and straight up incorrect in others.
Here's their quote.
CNN says, The heart of this debate has been purposefully confused and ultimately lost.
It's never been about livestock versus human dosage of ivermectin.
The issue is that a powerful voice in the media, who by example and through his platform sowed doubt in the proven and approved science of vaccines while promoting the use of an unproven treatment for COVID-19, a drug developed to ward off parasites in farm animals, the only thing CNN did wrong here was bruise the ego of a popular podcaster, Who push dangerous conspiracy theories and risk the lives of millions of people in doing so.
Joe, sitting before me are two wonderful lawyers.
luke rudkowski
Give him some advice on suing the pants off CNN, please.
robert barnes
Be careful what you say about Don Lemon, because I'm currently suing him for sexual assault of a bartender, Dustin Heiss.
Wow.
I mean, he has incredibly accused the Harvey Weinstein of the media.
Wow.
And he has so far dodged and evaded responsibility and accountability.
We'll see if that happens come trial in January.
But Joe clearly has a very good claim.
I mean, this is repeated libel and they're clearly just going to accelerate and they're going to keep doing it.
And I hope he does take action.
I know in the past he's been reluctant, but at some point he has to for the benefit of everyone else.
Because if Joe Rogan sits there and takes it, other people will think they don't have a fighting chance.
ian crossland
How would he do it?
What would he do?
Hire?
Just find a lawyer?
robert barnes
Should he contact you?
Joe has plenty of good lawyers.
All he's got to do is file a libel suit, file it right there in the Western District of Texas in the Austin Division, where he now resides, and file it against CNN, and go after them.
I mean, the anti-slap statute doesn't apply there, so he doesn't have to worry about fees.
viva frei
You have Sanjay Gupta on his own podcast saying CNN shouldn't have done it.
What do they do after that?
They do it two more times.
So I want to say one thing.
Washington Post calling CNN activist journalism is the pot calling the kettle black.
But at the very least, they got it right here.
But Robert, someone in the comments section of our last highlight said, what would his damages be?
He hasn't sustained any damages.
robert barnes
Well, I mean, that'd be up to the jury to determine.
But I mean, at a minimum, he could get a factual finding that CNN lied about him.
And that has value and utility right out of the gate.
luke rudkowski
And also discovery should be extremely interesting to how they decided to say it's horse medicine when a doctor prescribed it to him.
robert barnes
When I brought suit for all the Covington kids, the goal was to stop and prevent them from telling these kind of lies because typically ordinary people can't fight back.
Joe can fight back, and that's why he should fight back for the people who cannot fight back.
tim pool
Joe can write a check.
to a law firm and completely forget about it.
robert barnes
Absolutely.
tim pool
And then he'll get an email saying, hey Joe, here's the update, here's what they said, you know, sign off here if you agree, here's what we're going to respond with, and he'll go, you got it.
robert barnes
I mean, it was patent liable.
They said that he took something he didn't take, and they knew that was a lie.
tim pool
But your point with Sanjay Gupta is even better.
They said he took something he didn't take, their chief medical correspondent said they are wrong, and then they said it again!
viva frei
They shouldn't have done that, Joe.
Why didn't you press him?
I don't know.
And then they do this afterwards.
tim pool
Come on, it's a slam dunk?
viva frei
And then they purport that he's the one who's in the wrong for being offended by their libel.
I mean, it's nuts.
luke rudkowski
Sanjay Gupta went on his show and said, yeah, we lied.
We messed up.
We got this one wrong.
And now they're like...
They had him on!
I mean, I don't even want to think what they did to him in the backstage when they brought in Sanjay Gupta for that screw-up, and now he had to go on national television and then go back on what he said on the Rogan podcast?
tim pool
I'm just gonna reveal to you guys.
See, I was actually going to hire Joe Rogan for $1 billion.
But once I found out he took horse medicine, I had to cancel that deal.
Sorry, Joe, that's a billion dollars in damages.
robert barnes
Well, he probably does have some damages claims, because there are going to be some people who don't listen to him and some limitation on his ratings.
And given the scale that he's at, it doesn't take long to get to 10 million plus.
And we know CNN wrote at least some sizable check to Nicholas Sandman when they were caught lying to him.
They're currently facing a major lawsuit from Project Veritas for lying about Project Veritas and James O'Keefe.
Yes, yes.
But Rogan would put them at the most exposure mostly in the court of public opinion, but financially as well
tim pool
Do you guys see the the Netflix thing the Netflix protest?
Yes. Yes. Yes. So this this guy his name is Vito I think right? Yeah
viva frei
Yeah, they attacked him. They tore a sign apart said he had a weapon after they said
luke rudkowski
Threw his friend down on the floor that hit his head.
tim pool
Well, that was Dick Masterson.
He's a comedian.
He's a podcaster.
He's well known.
So they attack these people.
The crazy thing was the AP took a photo of this guy Vito when he was saying something like Black Lives Matter, agreeing with him.
And they said that he was like the aggressor who was clashing or attacking.
And because it was an AP stock photo, every outlet that picked it up shared the same false caption.
unidentified
Wow.
robert barnes
Which is liable.
I mean, that's exactly what the Covington case was.
tim pool
Well, here's my question.
If one of these outlets uses an AP source that says it, are they responsible?
robert barnes
Yes, they are.
tim pool
Every single publisher is responsible.
You guys should hit up Vito.
robert barnes
Yeah, exactly.
Well, I mean, all of them.
I mean, there's so many credible suits, but I think the utility for Rogan is this is CNN, and this is the context of COVID coverage.
And this is critical and essential that they let the court fully determine who told the truth and who's been lying.
And that has value to everybody.
luke rudkowski
Would there be any relevance in real-life damages with people who listened to this propaganda and say that they had, you know, parasites and they couldn't, you know, use Ibermectin for real purposes?
robert barnes
It would be very difficult.
Now, the left has been pursuing those theories in a wide range of other cases, but normally that would be too distant in order to get damages.
viva frei
The amazing thing is, my underlying belief in all of this is they didn't run with the dewormer story because they believed anybody believed it.
They wanted to create the hype so they could go get some people out there who don't really get good news to go take dewormer, the veterinary application, not the human, so they could then say, look, people actually did it after we spent two weeks hyping it up.
tim pool
Well, so one thing that was pointed out by a lot of people, which is a good point, is that by CNN coming out and saying Joe Rogan took horse paste, and then Joe Rogan coming out and saying the medication worked, People are going to believe the tractor supply stuff.
And that's CNN's fault.
Joe also got monoclonal antibodies, the emergency use authorization approved by the FDA that Ron DeSantis was trying to get because they've been using it in Florida.
Seems like that stuff really works and it's approved treatment.
luke rudkowski
Well, it's what the Biden administration tried to take away from Florida.
tim pool
And they did.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
No, no.
But according to Ron DeSantis, he fought against this.
And this is one reason why Florida's cases are so down right now as they are.
You look at the New York cases.
They're double that of Florida right now.
And you see their policies.
You see what kind of restrictions they implemented.
The exact opposite of what New York did.
So there's a there deserves to be a bigger conversation about these two different approaches, New York and Florida, because it's pretty clear what's happening.
tim pool
Talk to your doctor about what's going on.
I gotta wonder, is the only missing piece here a definitive damage?
Because if CNN lies, Sanjay Gupta says, yes, Joe, they lied.
I mean, that's clear admission, right?
viva frei
He said they shouldn't have done it, but it would be the damage.
You can get a declaratory judgment like Robert suggested during our last live stream.
Nominal damages.
robert barnes
And in reality, he's got at least 10 million.
He could get an expert to say he's got 10 million in damages.
That's just realistic because of the scale that he operates.
viva frei
He never actually said that it was the ivermectin, the horse dewormer, that made it better.
He never even promoted any of it.
He just said, this is what I'm on.
My doctors gave it to me.
Three days later, he said, I feel better.
My test is now showing I'm negative.
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
Plus Rogan also says that they changed the way that he looked.
They used a filter to make him look a lot sicker than he was from his original Instagram video.
So is there a possibility to even pursue that legally?
Is that an option as well?
robert barnes
All of that could be pursued.
And then you throw in that the FDA piggybacked off of this.
The FDA put out that fake tweak that Gupta was talking about on Rogen that was deliberately mis- and this is- I'm suing the FDA right now for their bait-and-switch on what they did with the vaccine.
They lie- they right now have military surgeons and military doctors going in and faking labels to try to convince people that they're getting something different than what's actually- So what it is, is you have currently the only thing that's available is the EUA.
So the emergency use authorized under the law, you can't force that.
There's an informed consent requirement.
That's the Nuremberg Code put into law.
And what the Defense Secretary said is the only thing we're going to require is the approved, the FDA biologic licensed one, not any of the EUA ones.
But it's not available.
And Pfizer has said they're not going to be producing it for months.
So some smart soldiers.
We brought to it against the FDA saying they shouldn't have licensed Comirnaty as long as it was unavailable.
tim pool
Did they pronounce it Comirnaty?
robert barnes
I don't even know how to pronounce it.
But it's supposed to be like mRNA in between and then COVID at the beginning and whatever at the end.
It's like quasi exact.
luke rudkowski
I think they make it confusing deliberately.
viva frei
It sounds too much like comorbidity, which is what I didn't like.
tim pool
So here's my question.
The FDA has said that they are interchangeable in the same formulation.
robert barnes
They have and they haven't.
So what they said is they said it's medically interchangeable in ways that don't impact safety and efficacy.
However, that's really misleading because under the EUA approvals, you do not have to comply with good manufacturing policies.
Under the EUA policy procedures, you have a whole different liability.
You're completely immune.
Everybody's completely immune.
Once it shifts to a licensed product, it has to go through a different manufacturing process, it has to meet good manufacturing policies, it has to be distributed in a certain way, and it actually is medically different.
They claim it won't impact safety and efficacy, but that's mostly speculative.
And last but not least, it has a whole different legal liability risk.
And by law, cannot be compelled, and yet what you have is the Defense Department misleading their own soldiers to the degree they're mislabeling a drug that's not even available according to the FDA's own terms.
luke rudkowski
and the mainstream media is running with headlines approved by the FDA safe and effective 100 percent
tim pool
Dr. Fauci safe and effective. Technically the truth the Pfizer did get a vaccine approved by the FDA.
luke rudkowski
But they don't tell you everything else.
tim pool
They would say because it's the Pfizer vaccine, people assume the Pfizer-BioNTech is the exact same.
So I read that it said it was interchangeable.
robert barnes
Medically interchangeable as to safety and efficacy.
But even that's misleading.
That's why we sued him.
We sued him in the Eastern District of Tennessee.
We're going to have a hearing in two weeks about it.
tim pool
Has anything happened?
robert barnes
The government filed their opposition.
We filed our reply.
The judge is going to have a hearing first week in November.
tim pool
So if the meat is the one lying though, what's your claim?
robert barnes
Oh no, it's the FDA lied.
Because the FDA misled everybody.
They buried in the footnotes the truth.
They knew legally they could not issue a biologic licensed approval until and unless they revoke the emergency use authorized drugs as required by law.
And they chose not to do so in order to force the mandates on people in violation of the Nuremberg Code.
They don't even deny that functionally.
They just claim we can't sue.
They claim nobody can sue them.
tim pool
So you're having a hearing in two weeks?
Yep.
Let's go to the... We'll hear about that when we get the update.
But I want to use this opportunity to talk about, you know, I think we're getting into the territory where everything's going absolutely insane.
And so we have this tweet here which exemplifies it and makes me very happy.
Rachel Bay says, the officials who represent Maryland's three westernmost counties in the General Assembly have asked if their counties can join West Virginia.
So, a lot of people don't know this.
West Virginia and Virginia were one state.
Then the Civil War happened, and West Virginia and Virginia went, bye-bye.
West Virginia said, we think slavery is bad, we're with the North, we want to stay in the Union.
Virginia said, we're going to be the capital of the Confederacy.
Right now, we're starting to see it's getting so bad politically, especially with the story you're telling about the FDA and the risks we have, the censorship, the media.
We operate right now, this studio, is in one of these counties.
I am very excited to hear that this is happening.
We have these two letters.
First, this is from Speaker Roger Hanshaw and President Craig Blair.
It says, Speaker Hanshaw and President Blair.
Or it's to them, sorry.
We the undersigned state representatives for Garrett and Allegheny counties in the state of Maryland request that you consider adding us as constituent counties to the state of West Virginia.
We believe this arrangement may be mutually beneficial for both states and for our local constituencies.
Please advise on next steps.
And then, I love this one.
I live in West Virginia.
President Blair, we the undersigned state representatives for Washington County in the
state of Maryland also request you consider adding Washington County as a constituent county
to the state of West Virginia. We believe this arrangement may be mutually beneficial for both
states and for our local constituencies. Please advise on next steps. I live in West Virginia
because it's a tri-state. You know, we shop sometimes in Virginia. We go for dinner.
I live in West Virginia, but we work in Maryland. So we're just between all three.
Um, uh, Delegate Mike McKay and Delegate William Wivel, we are here as your eager constituents, wanting to help in any way possible to allow us to join with West Virginia.
Look, so West Virginia, I live there.
I'm a resident.
I have constitutional carry.
It's fantastic.
It's way better.
Maryland is western Maryland where we are.
It's effectively West Virginia if you ask anybody around here.
lydia smith
Very conservative, yeah.
tim pool
There's a guy who lives over here, he's got these massive signs that say, like, swamp 40 miles that way in 2018.
It says, bring your boots.
Amazing sign, by the way.
And the people here would love it to not be under the boot of Baltimore.
robert barnes
Oh yeah, culturally, socially, economically, politically.
I mean, they're right in the middle of the place that triggered the last Civil War.
I mean, Harper's Ferry sits right on the middle of the old John Brown.
So it makes sense.
And what has to happen is the West Virginian and Maryland legislatures have to approve, and then Congress has to approve.
tim pool
Never gonna happen.
robert barnes
Probably not, but maybe, because if you're Maryland, do you really want Western Maryland?
If you're the Democrats in Baltimore, you probably would love to jettison them.
You're West Virginia, why not add your territory, add some tax base?
tim pool
You'll get a Democrat governor every time if you get rid of Western Maryland.
robert barnes
The only thing is, probably, they would look at congressional representation.
Would it give West Virginia enough to add back their third seat that they lost?
viva frei
Hypothetically, this ever happens.
What's the time frame?
robert barnes
How long would that... It can happen quickly.
It requires both legislatures and Congress.
It can happen with... I mean, the old days, they used to approve states within weeks, within months.
tim pool
So what do we have to do to encourage this?
robert barnes
That's a good question.
I mean, I wouldn't encourage anything too provocative.
tim pool
Well, look, this is just people saying, you know, we're not like the people of D.C.
and Baltimore.
We're more like West Virginia.
robert barnes
Well, just convince the people in DC and Baltimore that Western Maryland is really holding them back.
They just need to jettison them and give them to West Virginia.
tim pool
That's a good point.
You don't want to have these maggots, you know, voting in your elections.
Maryland's got a Republican governor.
robert barnes
Exactly.
It would be a Democratic governor if they would just let these counties go.
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
But I don't think they would.
It's a lot like what's happening in Oregon.
You know, the eastern Oregon counties are also... Oh, they want out.
They voted, right?
They voted Tuesday.
robert barnes
Eastern Washington wants out.
They would like to join Greater Idaho.
Make Idaho like a true Idaho.
tim pool
You know, it's funny having grown up my whole life in a city and then lived in New York and then ultimately just being like, it's better to not live in these cities because they're insane.
viva frei
It is funny, I drove through New York to get here, had coffee with my best friend in New York.
I know my frame of the world has changed with what's happened in the last two years, but it was the first time I really appreciated, I forget who said it, that living in a big city is like prisoners sort of learning to love their imprisonment.
And you know, we're in New York, I see people in the park playing violin, I see people, everyone's talking, everyone's trying to make the best of life in New York, but it was the first time that it really felt like The city was too much.
It looked like people were just trying to make the best of their living, but that people didn't really love it anymore.
But that might have been a lot of projection coming from me.
tim pool
Did you stop in New York City?
viva frei
Yeah, New York City proper.
It was in Lower East Side.
luke rudkowski
I grew up in New York City.
tim pool
Did you need to present your papers to get that coffee?
viva frei
I didn't because we drank it outside.
And I said on my channel, I got both shots.
Everyone knows because I've crossed the border.
Except for bowling with my kids.
Where's the camera that I have to apologize to again?
Except for bowling with my kids.
That one day.
I refuse to do it.
I don't need out anymore.
tim pool
Do you have like a card?
viva frei
No, I have a picture of my paper.
Literally, the funny thing is after I got my second shot, I took a picture of the paper they printed at the pharmacy, sent it to my wife with a very funny joke like, haha, the paper is when they ask.
And it became a very funny email that I sent to my wife.
Because they literally, when we were traveling to New Brunswick, they're like, show me your papers.
I had only had one shot at the time.
I was like, man, they're gonna tell me I can't go on a family vacation now.
luke rudkowski
That's ridiculous.
That is so draconian.
tim pool
This is the crazy thing to me.
I mean, and that would work in New York City.
viva frei
It's working.
It's working.
Everybody, every sign said, you want to sit down indoors?
Vaccine passport.
tim pool
No, I mean, I mean the fact that you've got a picture of a piece of paper and that's like, okay.
luke rudkowski
So what's stopping people from, you know?
robert barnes
Oh, there's massive, already in New York.
viva frei
I have had, I mean, I will never do it because I don't trust it not to get hacked in terms of like disclosed to the authorities.
But there's people, I know people who are who are providing.
robert barnes
Personally, I know nobody.
I have no idea.
viva frei
I don't want to take it back.
I know nobody.
luke rudkowski
But there's a high probability that there are a lot of these people and that's why these numbers of how many people actually took this or have this should be questioned.
tim pool
I don't represent any of them.
What if someone went to Mexico and then just went to a doctor?
robert barnes
Well, that's the key.
You get international.
That's what they can't control.
That's what there's no US tracking for.
That's why ultimately the goal is to have international tracking.
You know, have a little chip in your body that everybody can be universal.
tim pool
They already got a chip in your passport.
luke rudkowski
The World Economic Forum called for a global passport system of medical records that keep you up to date with your status and your tests that will be used internationally with all the countries being synced into the same system.
That's literally what they were just talking about months ago.
This has been planned for a very long time.
robert barnes
It'll be part of your financial system.
That's why they're talking about FedCoin.
It's going to be part of your identification.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, the Bank of England is literally talking about building a cryptocurrency that's centralized, controlled by them, just after a few days ago one of their spokespersons said that Bitcoin's going to destroy the financial markets.
As they're calling for their own Bitcoin, that's Fedcoin controlled by them at every level.
robert barnes
Well, you imagine the control.
They could cut off your ability to buy gas, buy food, do anything.
luke rudkowski
And that's literally their plan.
That's the social credit score.
It already exists in China and there's plans to implement it here in the United States through the vaccine mandate, through the vaccine passports.
It's a social credit score in a Trojan horse.
robert barnes
They'll experiment on Canada first.
viva frei
Well, and I just don't understand the rationale behind the vaccine passport.
You can go in, order your coffee, then leave.
But you can't sit down in there to drink your coffee.
And as if the double vaccination is the criteria that's the most relevant and not if you're worried about transmission, a negative test.
But it's nuts.
But people are putting up with it in Canada.
In New York, there's a little more defiance.
tim pool
So I can explain it.
It's actually quite simple.
So if you walk into a restaurant, You need to wear your mask because for people walking around, the COVID is at head level.
But when you sit down, now you can take your mask off.
However, if you're not vaccinated, it actually inverts.
You're okay standing up walking in.
But sitting down is when you get problems.
luke rudkowski
No, no, not anymore.
They changed that rule.
You have to, even if you're vaccinated, still wear the masks.
And in Australia, this virus usually goes to sleep at around 8 p.m.
when the government says that there's a curfew.
So this isn't great.
And also, very strangely, it's also a super spreader event when it comes to Republican protests.
But it's something that heals people during leftist Black Lives Matter protests.
robert barnes
It's a woke virus.
tim pool
At 8 p.m.
is when it's most active.
That's why everyone has to stay home.
robert barnes
Yeah, unless you're Joe Biden, then you don't even have to wear the mask when you go into a high-end restaurant.
tim pool
Well, everybody knows that Joe Biden is the healthiest president you've ever had.
robert barnes
Exactly.
So he's fit as a fiddle.
viva frei
I'll one up the insanity.
Did I talk about the isolating kids in Canada?
tim pool
No, I didn't.
viva frei
We got an email from school.
I did a video on this because I didn't believe it was true.
Out of Ontario, they were saying if a kid came in contact with someone who tested positive, that kid has to isolate.
And then you saw people tweeting online, my kid's crying in the bedroom, I'm slipping food under the door.
Oh, I saw that!
I don't know if I believe those tweets because you have to be a little skeptical, but then we in our community got a recommendation.
Eight-year-old kids in a class came in contact with a kid who tested positive.
All kids were asymptomatic, if they were even infected, but they tested negative.
No symptoms.
Negative test.
Had to isolate for 10 days.
And I expressed some discontent with the government policy.
I said, this is idiotic.
Total coincidence.
The next day, the government issues a correction.
No longer need to isolate an eight-year-old kid who's tested negative with no symptoms.
It's, it is, I don't know what they're doing.
Like there's that guy Awaken with JP who puts out some good videos.
This is what we do today.
Throw something on the wall.
That's going to be the criteria.
robert barnes
It's the problem with all these vaccine mandates.
All of them are about asymptomatic risk.
There is no real risk.
The only limitation the vaccine mandate lawsuits that they should expand upon is asymptomatic risk is not a meaningful risk of spread.
And that's the only thing the vaccine purports to solve and it doesn't solve by its own admission.
luke rudkowski
Allegedly.
And all the data should be questioned because all the data is coming from Pfizer and Pfizer has been caught fudging the data, fudging the trials, kicking people out of trials that get sick from the vaccine like
that 12 year old that ended up in a wheelchair and then she was a part of the
trial group and when the trial group or the report came out she wasn't a part of
robert barnes
it. I can't go into details but there'll be a big whistleblower coming out on
that precise topic in the next two weeks. It's crazy what's happening.
tim pool
We got to be careful with anecdotes.
robert barnes
Yeah absolutely.
As far as... Oh no, I represent a whistleblower who will be... No, that's different.
tim pool
I just mean like, you know, my concern is, you know, someone will see a story and they'll say, this proves my view of the situation.
robert barnes
And I'm like... There's tons of that, of course.
viva frei
Causation correlation.
Anecdotes prove nothing except that you have an example.
But I just love the fact that everybody now trusts Pfizer.
We did it for their own good at the time, or we said we did.
We knew they were dying.
luke rudkowski
We hit it.
Now we apologize for it.
viva frei
And they trust the government.
robert barnes
There's a little baby talk.
viva frei
In Canada, the government just apologized for its horrible treatment of the indigenous
with its residential schools.
We did it for their own good at the time, or we said we did.
We knew they were dying.
We hid it.
Now we apologize for it.
tim pool
Trust us today.
And the cases that they're citing are the cases that were used for eugenics in the 19th and 20th century.
new company and bankrupting it so they don't have to pay a settlement.
It's hilarious to see that in leftist subreddits where they're like, evil corporation, but
then also like, haha, MAGAs are dumb for not getting vaccinated.
viva frei
It's atrocious.
robert barnes
Completely.
And the cases that they're citing are the cases that were used for eugenics in the 19th
and 20th century.
So it's very dangerous what's happening legally, politically, across the board.
tim pool
People, you know, I want to stress this point too, because people often say, when we had
Michael Schellenberg, for instance, he's like, what about when people say we've had other
mandates like MMR and stuff.
And I'm like, I've never been required to get a vaccine to go to 7-Eleven before.
robert barnes
Exactly.
Not only that, there's always been religious accommodations for all those children and child vaccines.
There's always been medical accommodations.
There's always been prior immunity accommodations.
So we've never had, and again, those, as you note, were limited to kids for public education for which you could opt out.
So it's a completely unanalogous comparison that a lot of these people are using.
viva frei
The virus itself is not analogous either, because measles, mumps, and rubella actually pose a meaningful risk for kids.
We're talking now, in Canada, compelled vaccination of 5 to 11-year-olds for, in Canada, 300,000 some odd cases, 1,500 hospitalizations, 15 deaths.
And we just found out two weeks ago, at the very least on this occasion, a death they reported in a 14-year-old attributed to COVID.
The sister came out and said the kid had stage 4 brain cancer, was hospitalized and in a coma, and they did a test on the kid.
tim pool
But there's two words here, vaccine mandate, and the most important is mandate.
Like University of Denver saying flu vaccines.
This is, I think, just a... The bigger issue, I think, is they want to get people to mandate.
They want to get to the point where you have the app where they can start mandating many, many more things than just vaccination.
They can mandate any kind of medical procedure.
robert barnes
Well, it goes back to the eugenics era.
The whole goal was to establish the state's power and the corporate power over the human body.
That they control you, you don't control yourself.
Once they establish that legal precedent, we know where it leads,
because they gave us forced sterilization and forced detention camps based on ancestry
and then ultimately the Nazis.
tim pool
And so- There was a lot of really messed up stuff
happening in the early 1900s.
robert barnes
Oh yeah.
And that's what, and when they cite those cases, I'm like, do you recognize you're citing
the same Supreme Court that said racial segregation was a good idea?
tim pool
Well, to be fair though, Derrick Bell agreed with Plessy versus Ferguson,
and he's like a hero to the wokest, so.
robert barnes
Yeah, I mean, the levels of insanity.
I mean, it's the professional class has too much power.
That's the problem.
tim pool
Let's go to Super Chats, my friends!
If you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, become a member at TimCast.com.
Now let's read what people are saying.
luke rudkowski
That went by so quick.
I was like, it's 9.30?
It's 9.30 already?
I'm like, no, I got so much I want to say!
And I want to hear from you guys so much more about the lawsuits.
I'm like, oh man.
viva frei
Everyone should look into the story coming out of Canada that the health minister, chief medical officer of Alberta, Dina Hinshaw, she apologized for erroneously describing the death of that 14 year old kid to COVID when it was stage four brain cancer.
And she said, causing the family additional grief.
This was after some public outcry.
But if they've done it once, I just want to know how many times they've done it before.
tim pool
Yeah, absolutely.
All right, we got The Meaning of Nerd.
He says, Hey Tim, on my channel I analyze pop culture shows and movies and derive a more meaningful and liberty-loving message from my audience.
From it, I thought of analyzing your song.
Can I get permission to use the song in the background or will I get copyright?
I don't believe you will.
YouTube has an automated system, though, but people have done it before.
I won't issue anything, though, that's for sure.
ian crossland
You should change the license on the song, because otherwise just your... well, I guess your word is binding if you do it on video like that.
tim pool
I'm not going to issue a strike against anybody for using it.
I said the other day, by all means, download it, share it, put it on your computer.
ian crossland
You can go into the setting on the video and change it to Creative Commons.
It's also available on Amazon.
That's right.
tim pool
All right, let's see what we got here.
Hey Abbott says, never forget the four basic rules for firearm safety.
If you follow them every time, you'll be safe.
Mr. Baldwin managed to break all of those rules at once, and this is what happens.
Is the AK guy gonna visit the compound?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, Brandon Herrera.
lydia smith
Working on it?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, definitely.
That'd be awesome.
He's an awesome YouTuber.
tim pool
All right, let's see what we got.
John Clark says F for Viva, direct from Ottawa, and Trudeau for Tim.
viva frei
F is an inside joke.
It means I'm late when I'm never late.
lydia smith
Except that one time I was late.
tim pool
A lot of people cheering for Viva and Barnes.
Co's Diver says let's go Brandon.
viva frei
I think they have a Let's Go Trudeau also now at this point.
It's LGT.
lydia smith
Nice.
I love it.
tim pool
Samdip Nag says, a Viva Barnes and Tim Fool podcast.
This must be the best timeline.
Tim Fool, huh?
lydia smith
Got me.
tim pool
Jack Sparrow says, just take my money.
All right.
Ethan Randall says, to Viva, F.
lydia smith
You do that to us too.
We're not late.
viva frei
I love it, but the dedication it takes for someone to give a super chat for one letter.
unidentified
Congratulations.
lydia smith
I appreciate that.
tim pool
Wayne Smith says Alec Baldwin has killed more people than all of the January 6th protesters combined.
That's what I'm saying.
Yikes, man.
Wow.
viva frei
It was a very... Look, coming out was easy.
Going back, I think, is going to be harder than coming to the States.
lydia smith
Interesting.
robert barnes
Even though you're going back to your home country.
viva frei
And I was like, what happens if I don't have a PCR test?
How is my government going to keep me out of my own country?
But I'll get back and we'll do a live stream Sunday.
luke rudkowski
Does the government check or does the airline check?
robert barnes
I drove.
luke rudkowski
So border patrol checks.
viva frei
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
Because in the United States, if you come into the United States as an American citizen, you have to show a negative test to the airline, not at customs.
viva frei
This would have been the case for flying, and now I have to show apparently a PCR to come in through the land border.
luke rudkowski
It won't be a problem, but it's just, it increases... And positive vaccine status, if you're a visitor.
I don't know about the positive vaccine status, but I know as of November 8th... Yeah, if you want to visit Canada now, you have to be fully vaccinated.
tim pool
All right, I'm gonna read it.
luke rudkowski
Do it.
tim pool
Alex Ryan says, Tim, watch Biden again.
His clenched fists and vacant stare are signs that he's pooping himself.
luke rudkowski
Oh!
tim pool
Anyone who's had or attended to kids can recognize the signs.
That's actually a good point.
I've seen it.
Yeah, they do that.
viva frei
You can tell if he was wearing a diaper.
tim pool
No, I don't know.
He's the president.
viva frei
I will go back and look very thoroughly because that's an interesting theory.
tim pool
I bet he's got like, Tier 5, 2020 model, elite, ultra, men's, you know.
luke rudkowski
Technological evaporating diapers.
tim pool
Yeah.
It's a portal.
lydia smith
It's a portal.
tim pool
It goes right into the sewer.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
Nathan Dolan says, have Viva and Barnes explain rights to Ian.
ian crossland
Civil rights versus natural rights.
robert barnes
I mean, really, civil rights' origin and justification can be natural rights.
It depends on your perspective as to what justifies it.
Technically, what civil rights are in the legal system is it comes from the Constitution, or it comes from a statute, or it comes from the common law.
But the question is, where is the moral authority for the Constitution, civil rights, the statutes, civil rights, the common laws civil rights come from?
Some would argue, I would argue, natural law.
Natural law and the idea that if you're religious, God sort of imprinted upon us our conscience and our cognitive capacity, the recognition of certain universal moral truths, which by the way, informed consent used to be one.
We called it just Kogans in the international law.
We executed people for violating informed consent.
That's what the Nuremberg trials were about.
We said these rules are so universal.
There's a classic example.
So universal, there was no informed consent law in the German statutes, in the German constitution.
So how did we execute people afterwards for violating it?
We said that's such a universal recognized law that no civilized society anywhere can violate it.
ian crossland
And are natural rights and human, or natural law and human rights, are those synonymous?
Because there's human rights and civil rights.
robert barnes
They can be.
So many people would say our human rights derive from natural law.
Some people don't agree with natural law being the basis of it.
So you could have a philosophical disagreement as to the moral justification of or authorization for civil rights, but it is for many people the same.
ian crossland
We go through, sometimes we talk about human rights and civil rights and that they're, do you see those as different?
robert barnes
No, I mean, I see civil rights as an expression of human rights, but civil rights don't always capture all the human rights that exist.
Hence Martin Luther King's protest in his letter from Birmingham jail.
viva frei
I have a shorter answer.
In Canada, no rights.
Privileges.
I'm being tongue-in-cheek.
tim pool
So the argument we had was that... I think, Luke, you were here for this, right?
Or no?
luke rudkowski
What was happening?
tim pool
It was Jack Murphy.
Um, Ian said that rights are culture-based and that you're effectively granted them by the Constitution.
And my argument, I think Jack Murphy, is that the rights are inalienable.
They're intrinsic to you based on several factors.
There's big moral questions, philosophical questions, but the general idea is saying that our rights come from God.
It doesn't necessarily mean you have to be theistic, it's just like the rights exist within us no matter what.
A government can infringe our rights, but the rights are always ours, and Ian disagrees.
If a culture doesn't agree with it, your right doesn't exist.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think I was defining civil rights, and you were defining natural rights, or human rights.
robert barnes
Well, if you want to define civil rights as what a particular culture defines, but it doesn't have to be.
So for many people, civil rights are just an expression of natural rights.
It doesn't have to be in either war.
So it's whether or not you believe civil rights are rooted in natural rights is where the debate tends to occur.
Does that make sense?
ian crossland
Yeah, I mean, if the culture thinks it's okay to eat baby hearts, then you have a natural right to eat baby hearts.
robert barnes
No, because the natural rights would be objective moral truths.
If you believe in a certain form of natural law, you believe that they transcend culture.
ian crossland
Right, but if you're the culture that's deciding what transcends the culture, You always have some degree of that, yes.
robert barnes
That would be my brother Gordon Barnes' debate.
So that would be his extensive.
He does classes on exactly that in his philosophy classes.
tim pool
All right, well, let's just read some more Super Chats.
Let's not spend too much time on one idea.
Memotype says, you've been talking about how it's important to create culture outside of a leftist frame.
Check out the Foundation for Economic Education.
My friend Sean Malone has a YouTube series there analyzing movies from a liberty angle.
I think he'd be a great guest for your show.
Doesn't Seamus do stuff with them?
lydia smith
Yeah, F.E.?
tim pool
Freedom Tunes.
unidentified
Yeah, what's the name?
lydia smith
Sorry.
robert barnes
Oh, yeah, that stuff is good.
That stuff's great.
lydia smith
It's the best stuff.
tim pool
Yeah, Freedom Tunes is fantastic.
luke rudkowski
What's that guy's name you recommended?
Tomorrow, too, potentially, maybe.
Luke, stop it.
robert barnes
Our interview with Stick Hammer.
tim pool
There's gonna be so many.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, there's gonna be a lot.
viva frei
One of our brief interviews with Sticks, Hex, and Hammer, they produced... It's phenomenal.
robert barnes
Yeah, they did.
unidentified
Cool.
tim pool
Ken Davis says, every handgun is loaded.
That is correct.
We have a whole lot of people saying, yay, Viva and Barnes.
robert barnes
Yes.
tim pool
Josiah Magnuson says you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
Alec Baldwin probably.
unidentified
Indeed, yes.
Technically correct.
viva frei
Yikes.
unidentified
That's terrible.
viva frei
The internet is a mean place.
I love it.
Alec Baldwin is going to want to avoid it for the next 10 years.
lydia smith
I think that was Michael Malice in disguise.
robert barnes
Yes, it probably was.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
Someone asks, who is taking pics of- I can't read the name.
Who is taking pics of Alex crying on the phone?
Is it PR or paparazzi?
It's interesting of a question that there are people there taking pictures after it happened.
luke rudkowski
High-res photos that looks like from a professional camera.
It wasn't a cell phone.
ian crossland
A sign of a sick society that people are making fun of this guy who murdered his co-worker on accident?
robert barnes
It's probably not a sign of a healthy, happy society.
lydia smith
Not happy, that's for sure.
viva frei
Ordinarily, these types of jokes, you would make them much later on after the tragedy has settled.
robert barnes
Tragedy plus time.
viva frei
Yeah, but this is social media where people say... He rushed right to it.
And Malice, it's not that he's remorseless.
I mean, he's making the quips that a lot of people are thinking.
He just doesn't have the filter that most people have.
But the world needs all types of people.
People have gotten into the habit of not waiting.
robert barnes
Well, the cool thing with Mal says he punches up.
He doesn't punch down.
luke rudkowski
And people have different reactions to trauma.
Some people laugh.
Some people are sad.
But there's different human reactions to it as well.
robert barnes
It was Dave Chappelle's point.
As long as you're really punching up.
And a lot of the wokesters have actually been punching down, not up.
viva frei
Those Netflix protests proving exactly what Dave Chappelle was talking about in his special.
lydia smith
And I will say in the instance of Alec Baldwin, you kind of have to ask yourself how he would respond if something like this happened to someone like James Woods.
What do you think he would be doing?
Do you think that body would be cold before he would be being a complete jerk?
robert barnes
Oh yeah, he's had that reputation in Hollywood for a long time.
I only ran into him once and he was an ass then, so I have no sympathy.
tim pool
All right, Nicholas Lipset says, saw your part about buying a guitar right now.
I ordered a trumpet in May 2020.
Should have taken a couple months.
I still don't have it.
So we went out and bought the music equipment for doing the shows here.
Bought a couple guitars.
And I went to the shop and they told me that if you order a guitar right now, it's a 15 month wait.
robert barnes
Talk about supply chain issues.
Those are only going to get worse.
Those are not going to get better anytime soon.
tim pool
Yeah, they're dumping empty containers on the side of the road apparently.
robert barnes
You have problems in China, you have problems in the ships, you have problems in the warehouses, and now you're going to fire a bunch of workers?
You're going to fire people in warehouses?
You're going to fire them on railroads?
You're going to fire them on trucks?
Because they don't take a drug they don't want to take?
And how is that going to help?
viva frei
In Canada they've been talking about, you know, not overwhelming the health care system from the beginning.
It was two weeks to flatten the curve so as not to overwhelm the health care.
Now they're talking about firing thousands of health care workers.
robert barnes
You even got a honorary coin for it.
viva frei
Oh yes, that's a good coin.
We posted a picture of that on Locruz if anybody wants to see.
tim pool
Alright, Brian Perkins says, I got my Let's Go Brandon shirt from Luke earlier this week.
Wore it today and got all kinds of compliments.
No hijacking with the real meaning.
luke rudkowski
I mean, this is the best way to make friends.
I mean, there's so much speech censored online.
We have shirts that I can't wear here because the YouTube videos will probably get taken down.
But when I wear them at the public, I get high fives, I get thumbs up, I get a lot of people coming up being like, I'm with you, man.
So if you're in your local community looking for some friends, get a shirt.
It's the best way to meet people at thebestpoliticalshirts.com.
tim pool
It actually really is true.
People have jokingly said a Tim Cass dating site so that the people who share similar ideas can date, and I'm like, I don't know about all that, but if you see someone wearing a shirt, you're gonna be like, yo!
And you're gonna know right away.
Alright, Ghost Crusader says, Viva Barnes and Timcast finally together and only 6k likes!
Hit that like button!
We're at 12k likes right now by the time they posted it.
Absolutely smash that like button.
Tom's Pants says, Ian, simulation and simulacra are two related but different things.
Read some Jean Baudrillard.
Is that how you pronounce it?
Baudrillard?
Or follow CultureCampCast on Twitter to learn about it.
ian crossland
I watched a great documentary on that, actually.
tim pool
On simulacrum?
ian crossland
Yeah, the difference.
Well, it was on the simulacrum, yeah.
He's got a book called Simulation in Simulacrum, I think.
lydia smith
Oh, interesting.
tim pool
Yeah, it's like, I think Simulacrum, a good example is at the end of the movie Annihilation when, what's her face, Natalie Portman confronts the weird alien thing mimicking her.
lydia smith
Version of herself.
tim pool
Yeah, it's like not a real thing.
luke rudkowski
Someone just said Timder in the comment section.
lydia smith
Timder, yes!
unidentified
Timder.
lydia smith
I love it.
tim pool
Jaynarkey says, two days ago, Twitter suspended me for saying Kyle did nothing wrong.
Twitter claims it's glorifying violence.
They want me to delete the tweet, but I refuse to do so.
Still suspended.
I figured Robert might be interested in this info.
robert barnes
Yeah, and people, there's going to be constant updates about the trial at FreeKyleUSA.com and that's where you can get, there's other things you can do there, we won't mention it on YouTube, but you can get all the updates on the information, he's clearly innocent, and it tells you what era we live in when being innocent is something that's subject to censorship.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
tim pool
Western Canadian Commentary says, Veteran here, negligent handling of a firearm resulting in death, does that not mean third degree murder?
What do Viva and Barnes think?
robert barnes
Well, it depends.
I mean, look at what the Chauvin trial showed us, right?
Those can be very broad and elastic definitions of various forms of murder and homicide.
I mean, you look at the insanity of what they're charging Kyle with, if those standards were applicable, Baldwin would be in jail without bail tonight.
So that's the way I would look at it.
viva frei
I want to know the circumstance also, because who was it that mentioned the idea, you know, Whether or not it was part of the movie, whether or not it was a gag, whether or not he was joking around with it.
Circumstances, details matter.
His knowledge of things matter.
robert barnes
Does he have the innocent Canadian defense?
That's the key.
viva frei
I didn't know, eh?
He was a loaded gunny.
unidentified
You can't even say gun in Canada without going to jail.
viva frei
The gun laws in Canada is a video or a discussion for another day.
ian crossland
It looks like it wouldn't be a misfire or a hanging.
It might've been a hanging fire, but the other thing would be a negligent discharge if it just goes off in your hand without you pulling the trigger.
viva frei
Of a firearm, not if everyone thought it was a bomb.
ian crossland
Because he very well pointed it and pulled the trigger and thought nothing was going to happen.
luke rudkowski
If this was the average Joe, they would be in jail.
Let's just be honest here.
robert barnes
Particularly if their politics was on the wrong side.
ian crossland
So what do you do?
You go criminally after the production company for murder and then Alec Baldwin for manslaughter?
robert barnes
I don't think anything like that will happen because his politics are on his side.
Though I don't know the local jurisdiction, but that's what they normally you'd investigate everything and see whether this was really an accident Because it's it does seem odd that somebody very familiar with guns of in that setting in which Alec Baldwin is Would somehow have it go off and kill somebody That seems very unexpected unexplained and his he looks criminal in his culpability at this stage We don't know all the details, but at this stage.
tim pool
Yes interesting Sniper Olink says, Hey Tim, I watch you guys all the time and hear you talk about shortages.
I work in retail and often have to tell customers why we don't have food.
Yikes, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's see, how do you pronounce that?
Dewey Cox says, in Sask, Canada, if you don't have your QR code passport, you can only go to the grocery store and work.
Only some work.
Recent election was over, what is it, was over fraud?
viva frei
And let that sink in also.
You need a vaccine passport to get into certain places where the employees of those places don't need vaccine passports.
tim pool
That's why mandate is the right word.
viva frei
Trust the science.
I hated the word mandate from back in the practice of law.
I hated that word.
And now I hate it exponentially more.
unidentified
Even more?
viva frei
Mandate.
tim pool
Yeah, I was just reading about this.
The... Where is it?
know about the Queen's authority in Commonwealth countries as every officer from dog catcher
ian crossland
to Prime Minister swears obedience to her.
The Queen of Canada.
robert barnes
Who is the Queen of England?
ian crossland
That would be Elizabeth, yes.
tim pool
The Queen of Canada?
robert barnes
The Queen has never exercised this power.
Maybe ever?
But it's on the books.
viva frei
And typically, it's by prerogative so that when the Prime Minister does it, it's deemed to be by recommendation of the Queen.
But I would have to look into that.
ian crossland
This is from Canada.ca.
The monarchy of Canada is at the core of Canada's constitutional federal structure.
robert barnes
Yeah, it still is legally.
tim pool
Who's next in line for the crown?
robert barnes
Who is after the Queen?
You probably don't care so much.
viva frei
Meghan, right?
ian crossland
This also says the crown may act on its own with no advice from any other body in the case of a constitutional crisis.
viva frei
The crown is different than the Queen, though.
ian crossland
What's the difference?
viva frei
The crown is the state.
robert barnes
In Canada.
The crown doesn't mean royalty in Canada.
It just means the government.
viva frei
I mean, I have to look into it.
I have never even had the remotest, the slightest interest in what the Queen could do because it has never been a practical question in any aspect of the practice.
tim pool
You know where it comes up legally?
lydia smith
Someone want to look up who's next in line?
robert barnes
In island jurisdictions you appeal to the Queen if you get screwed.
So like my fraud cases, like if it's in Guernsey or someplace like that, Isle of Man, you actually can go up to the Queen technically.
Doesn't work anyway, but theoretically.
ian crossland
I think of them as like sitting in the road blocking traffic and being like, I'm not doing anything.
Like people are like, hey.
Get out of the way, and they're like, I'm not doing anything, I'm just sitting here, and you're like, well, you own all the land, you're doing something passively by controlling.
tim pool
Isn't Charles the guy who's like, looks like he's been, he's an exhumed corpse?
lydia smith
Yeah, a little bit.
tim pool
Like, he was in the car, and he was like, ugh, and they were like, ooh, this guy's not doing too well.
What if he's just like, out of it, and then, you know, like, Queen Elizabeth passes, because she was just in the hospital, and then as soon as he gets in, he goes nuts, and he like, makes crazy declarations and dissolves Australia, Well, for a while they had that worry because the Nazis were recruiting, uh, who was it?
robert barnes
One of the dukes that could be king back in the late 30s.
They had to hide him out in the Bahamas because he went AWOL.
They made him renounce.
viva frei
I know when we are venturing out of my area of expertise.
tim pool
I don't know, it would make life interesting, I guess.
Charles just shows up and he's like, Canada's gone, Australia's gone, the Pitcairn Islands, I'm keeping those.
luke rudkowski
He made some interesting comments about population control, and they do have a lot of extensive ties to some people that do really bad things to children, but I'm not going to get going on the show here.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Neo Ritter says, you got to cut Canada some slack.
They've only been a sovereign country for just shy of 40 years.
They still have some time to go before they figure out that freedom thing.
viva frei
Is that true?
No, it's 1867 was when upper and lower Canada, I hope I'm not embarrassing myself.
I took the course twice.
1867 was the unification or the constitution.
When did it unify?
Upper and lower, it's existed for over 140 years now.
ian crossland
Yeah.
The confederation, 1867.
viva frei
Yeah, but there was the unification of Upper and Lower Canada, but then the Constitution of 1867, which was amended or added to with the Constitution of 1982, which was the one that was supposed to guarantee the charter rights, which is what we were discussing.
ian crossland
Charter privileges.
tim pool
Tin Man says, I need little dancing mushroom toys that scream Alex Jones quotes.
So I don't know if in the vlog, there's this really funny comic where Ian goes mushroom hunting and he finds a mushroom, but it's Alex Jones.
So the mushroom is just Alex Jones talking and then screaming.
robert barnes
That'd be good.
unidentified
That'd be good.
tim pool
I love it.
I think Trump's gonna win.
robert barnes
Yeah, if Trump wants it, he's in.
It's that simple.
Unless things go... Unless something radically changes between now and then.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
Homer Simp says, Tim, not to be pedantic, but I believe it was called Pasta Gate.
The Quebec language police never recovered from that embarrassment.
That was an amazing story when I first heard it when I was visiting Montreal.
viva frei
It's an interesting thing.
Tim Hortons is like the icon of Canada.
Doesn't have an apostrophe with the S, because under the language laws, if you had an apostrophe in Quebec, it was an English language thing.
So Tim Hortons didn't want to have two brandings for the product, so they just removed the apostrophe.
unidentified
Wow, smart.
viva frei
There was another one, I'm sure I remember of it, called Joe's Garage.
And it was Joe's apostrophe garage.
He got in trouble with the police, the language police, and he covered up the apostrophe with a Canadian flag, which only made matters worse.
But I have not been able to find, I haven't been able to find that story.
I'm sure I learned of it in law school.
tim pool
There's a funny old viral video about the language police, where it's like two guys are doing a drug deal in an alley, and the cops pull up, and they try to run.
The cops grab them, and they're like, ah, we got you.
And they're like, no!
And the cops push him up against the wall, starts frisking him.
And then he's like, what's this?
And he pulls out a bag of weed and he goes, oh, sorry.
He puts it back.
And then he's like, wait a minute.
And the other cop pulls out an English language dictionary and he goes, what's this?
And he's like, it's not mine, I swear.
viva frei
As an illustration of how preposterous it is, kosher foods and specific market foods would get in trouble for not having French on it as if anybody wants to eat the kosher food stuff in the first place.
So they say, you need to have French on this.
And that's how stringent the rules are.
It had a reason at the time.
But if a law doesn't work after 40 years, maybe it's not going to work in the next 40 years.
tim pool
I wonder though, so a company that makes freezer cheeseburgers, do they create special packaging that's in French?
viva frei
They have to.
And or what they do is they go with the cheaper alternative, which is just like stick over labels
And then they but that are no words at all But even though because you have to have ingredients you
have to have nutritional content There's a bunch of stuff and you have to literally have
either French and English labeling or just French only and then what people do
Is that the cheap alternative print up stickers and have employees, you know put them over but that adds cost of
doing business And yeah, and it's it's a pain in the neck
tim pool
Why is English doing better than French, though?
viva frei
It's not that it's doing better.
It's that the idea is that French is on the decline, apparently, if you trust the studies.
It is, though.
I don't believe it is.
French people are still speaking French in Quebec.
English people are speaking English.
But everybody's speaking French and English.
Who wants to speak French and English?
But the idea is to protect French spoken in the home.
None of this has anything to do with it.
And to allow, you know, to oblige a company of 25 employees or more to operate in French, to have contracts drafted in French and in English, even if somebody wants them drafted in English, it's going to cripple the economy and not actually do anything to protect the French language, in my humble opinion.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
Trout in Alberta says, Tim, there are Canadians that will riot.
Rural Alberta, not the cities, have had enough.
Just look to the Whistle Stop Cafe in Mirror, Alberta.
What was that about?
viva frei
Whistle Stop, I'm not sure about.
Oh, I do know about Whistle Stop.
A couple of people were held in contempt for continuing to operate.
There was the Adams Barbecue in Ontario.
Some people have stood up and some people have gotten massive fines and have taken it to court.
But by and large, it's a lot.
I don't promote noncompliance.
Abolish the police?
No, I don't promote noncompliance because it doesn't get you where you want to go.
It's just going to get the government to come in with more police force.
But if people don't want to vote these people out, the people will get what they want.
They'll get what they voted for.
And that's what's happening.
tim pool
So it's interesting because here, you know, our police swear an oath to the Constitution.
And then when you see these cops going out and enforcing unconstitutional edict and mandate, I have to wonder, you know, what their word actually means.
So, I'm curious about your relationship, like the Canadian people's relationship with cops.
viva frei
In my experience, it's deteriorated.
When you see cops pepper-spraying dudes at a Tim Hortons because they're not wearing a face mask, it has nothing to do with safety.
It has to do only with compelled compliance.
But I have never not distrusted, but not like seeing the police around because I don't know what they're there for.
Are they there to actually fight actual crime or are they there because an eight year old girl is not isolating in her house because she crossed somebody with COVID?
I mean, I don't know what they're there to do, but if it's if it's to enforce that stuff, they're not there to enforce the law.
And it's it's causing some goodwill issues.
tim pool
Abolish the police?
viva frei
They never abolish the police, but just have the police should do a job which is justice and not As the good cops start quitting, you know, give it a year or two, and you'll be like, man, we really should have abolished them a long time ago.
tim pool
Because if the good cops are already going to quit, and the bad cops are going to stay, then it's a win-win for everybody.
robert barnes
Well, especially if it's about Canadian Mountain.
I mean, they're considered the nicest cops in the world.
tim pool
I heard they ride moose.
Is that true?
viva frei
It is not true.
They ride horses, which is still kind of funny.
But the Quebec police have had a reputation for being trigger happy in the past.
But the issue is that they're enforcing things in a way, and Quebec has issued tens of millions of dollars in COVID fines.
It's atrocious.
tim pool
All right, let's see what we got here.
Kirk Hood says, Ian's passion is great for the show.
I like listening to how his mind works.
Then if you are a member coming to the event tomorrow, you'll get a good chance to meet him.
And Ian will sing you songs.
And whisper sweet nothings into your ears.
lydia smith
Writing checks we can't sign.
tim pool
Ron Garian says, simulation equals virtual reality.
Simulacrum equals augmented reality.
Interesting.
Killer Donut says, do you think Biden will use the National Guard to supply federal LNO needs?
The federal prisons is only about 60% vaccinated, 25% at some of the institutions.
P.S., I don't know if that means I'm not going to read it, but do you have a question?
Yeah.
I think, yes, the National Guard will come in.
They're going to send a National Guard for truck driving.
They called the National Guard for driving school buses in, where was it, Massachusetts?
robert barnes
That's one of the next big vaccine mandate cases because they were given a longer time period to comply.
And I've received requests from everybody.
I mean, I've received requests from people who work at the White House to contest the vaccine mandate.
So it's much broader what you're talking about earlier in terms of who's opposing the social credit system is much broader than anybody knows.
People at the Federal Reserve want to sue the Federal Reserve over it.
But the National Guard suits are coming across the country.
tim pool
Interesting.
All right, here's one for Ian.
DTQC says the crown is the body politics, which is fused to the body of the queen.
This was used to justify how the queen, how Queen Elizabeth, could rule even if she wasn't a man because her body politics is male.
viva frei
Okay.
ian crossland
That's some intense legal speak there.
tim pool
I don't know what that means, really.
Some dude's like, she's a queen, she can't rule.
Ah, but the body politic is male.
Okay, she's a dude.
lydia smith
That works, yeah.
viva frei
I know DTQC's avatar, but I do not know the truthfulness or the accuracy of that statement.
tim pool
Well then.
viva frei
I do not doubt it, because he's a longtime watcher, but I don't know that offhand.
tim pool
Andrew McKenna wick says I need a new shirt that says what am I doing here?
Quote Joe Biden.
luke rudkowski
I need something more spicy.
That's like I need I need All right, let's see.
tim pool
Wubba lubba dub dub says, Brandon Lee was struck in the stock by a blank that got lodged in the barrel, then expelled by the next shot.
Also, how much of SPAC rise do you think was from people copying Pelosi?
Feed the chickens.
Brandon Lee, my understanding is that there was a squib, it was a squib shot it was called, so it had no gunpowder, but it had a bullet.
unidentified
It was supposed to not have primer, but it did have primer.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, there's a lot of different theories out there.
There's a lot of different conspiracies about that story.
So there's different versions of exactly what happened.
ian crossland
Someone forgot to remove the primer or something.
luke rudkowski
Something like that.
tim pool
Ladies and gentlemen, they said, Wubba Lubba Dub Dub said, feed the chickens.
Chicken City is nearing absolute completion.
And it is.
You can see it on my Instagram.
It's a beautiful chicken fortress.
It's got a sewer system.
So where the chickens sleep, chickens just, you know, they just dump where they sleep.
And so there's a plastic pan which funnels down into a duct system that rolls it all out.
So it's a legit chicken city.
It's got a sewer system.
I think that makes it a city.
And here's the plan that we're going to build.
Once it's completely done, we're going to move the chickens in there, the adults first.
We're going to set up cameras for a 24-7 chicken live stream.
We're going to have different cameras and adjustable cameras, PTZ, so they can move around and film other things.
And you're going to watch the chicken, see chicken stuff.
And then, the ultimate goal.
We want to build a machine that whenever there's a $50 in Super Chats come in, it will rotate dropping treats for the chickens.
And there'll be like a maximum release, you know, maybe like only 10 times per day.
But then people who are watching can, you know, hit $5 and you'll see the meter fill up.
And then once it hits $50, it'll go ding and the machine will start spinning and the chickens will run for it and they'll all be running around and fighting.
And the thing is, people need to understand that chickens play rugby.
You guys know this?
That's what it's called.
If you throw in, like, a bug, one chicken will pick it up and then run, and they'll all chase each other.
And they'll try and take the food from each other's mouths, but they run around and they're dodging and jumping.
It's, like, really fun to watch.
viva frei
The 24-7 is good.
I've never seen a chicken actually lay an egg.
ian crossland
Me neither.
viva frei
I would be interested to see that.
tim pool
That's right.
And we'll put cameras in the roosting boxes.
lydia smith
They just sit there.
tim pool
So there's a bunch of them.
We'll figure out they like roosting in the same place, but we'll put a camera and then you don't really see anything.
Sometimes the chickens will be running and the egg falls out.
viva frei
I've seen an ostrich give birth, lay an egg, and that's quite shocking.
luke rudkowski
There's some crazy developments according to the Daily Mail surrounding the Alec Baldwin case.
I don't know if you want me to read it, but the Daily Mail... I don't know, but they're reporting right now that when he was told that he needed to shoot the scene again, Baldwin jokingly said... No, no, no.
tim pool
Is that in the Daily Mail?
Because I heard that's not true.
luke rudkowski
That's what some people are reporting right now.
tim pool
I read that this morning, that he jokingly was like, I'll shoot you, but that was not true.
luke rudkowski
Those are some of the reports I see going around Twitter right now.
And again, the police department are still investigating it.
We don't know what happened.
tim pool
There is an update though.
Apparently he was told the gun was safe.
So that's the latest update.
Big, big updates.
But yeah, apparently someone went to him and told him the gun was safe.
That's what they're reporting.
robert barnes
You know his crisis communications team is in overdrive.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Non-union assistant director handed him prop gun after workers walked off set over poor conditions.
Yikes, man.
We've got a big event tomorrow.
There's going to be a lot of people there.
Some people who just happen to be in the area for some reason might actually be there as well.
So make sure you go to TimGuest.com and become a member.
We were trying to do events all year, and many of you probably know this, and it's just not easy to do.
That's why one of the reasons I'd love for this county to become a part of West Virginia.
But we got Freedomistan, which we're going to build a big stage, and we're going to have events there.
We're going to try and figure it out.
It's complicated stuff.
Insurance, costs, and all that stuff.
But, you know, we ultimately want to have the events be free for members when they spring up.
Limited availability, obviously, but that's what we're doing here.
I don't know if we'll be able to do an event for November and December just because of the holidays.
And it's going to be cold.
We'll figure it out, maybe.
But then, you know, January, February, March, we'll try and do events once a month in the area.
You know, we'll see what happens with the lockdowns and the enforcement and all that stuff.
But yeah, become a member at TimCast.com, smash the like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends, follow us at TimCastIRL on all platforms.
You can follow me personally at TimCast.
Do you guys want to shout anything out?
robert barnes
Yeah, if you want to follow us at VivaBarnesLaw.Locals.com.
That's where our community exists, and that's where you can get exclusive content all year round.
viva frei
It is a treasure trove of information on Locals.
Robert and I are both on Twitter.
Barnes underscore Law on Twitter.
Viva Fry on Twitter.
Oh, The Viva Fry, not Viva Fry.
That's an unrelated Russian account.
The Viva Fry.
And before I forget, why do you have two machetes on the table?
luke rudkowski
Well, when we first had the new studio, there was a sword here.
tim pool
My sword!
luke rudkowski
Someone took it away from me, so I got my own sword.
I got my own sword.
It was here on the table, okay?
It was a free sword, so I decided to... So anyway, I'm very excited about tomorrow's event, and if you want to see me leading the charge of the Let's Go Brandon chants, you can, because I'm going to be posting about it on my Twitter and Instagram stories all under LukeWeAreChanged, LukeWeAreChanged on Instagram and Twitter.
And my YouTube channel is WeAreChange, and it's great to see some of you guys there.
Thanks for having me.
ian crossland
It was so good to have you guys here.
The energy is good, and the information is good.
Like Luke, you said earlier, I wanted more, so hopefully we can do this again.
I would love to have you guys back sometime.
tim pool
There was a bar you mentioned earlier.
ian crossland
Oh yeah, someone had messaged me and tonight people are going to be out, people that are in town for the event.
And the name of the bar, I'm going to pull it up.
The Barn?
lydia smith
The Barn.
robert barnes
That's easy.
ian crossland
It's in Harper's Ferry.
It's called The Barn.
The Barn?
The Barn with an N. People may be there hanging out.
If you go, check around.
There are people that are going to be attending the event tomorrow, going to be hanging out there.
One Kayla from Mel sent me the message.
So thanks Kayla for letting me know.
unidentified
Nice.
ian crossland
And then we'll see you guys tomorrow.
lydia smith
Yeah, I am stoked.
I looked up this quote that someone superchatted us that Tim didn't want to read because that's how people get you.
It is Latin and I could almost figure it out, but I had to look it up.
It is Montani Semper Liberi, which is from the Latin and it means mountaineers are always free.
It is the state motto of West Virginia.
Now we know.
I feel enriched.
tim pool
See, I should have known that.
lydia smith
Yeah, you should have known.
viva frei
I thought about free the mountain, but that makes more sense.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
lydia smith
Yeah, I like it.
Anyway, I am super excited about tomorrow.
You guys may follow along on my Twitter at Sour Patch Lids.
tim pool
All right.
It's going to have to be an early bedtime because we're going to get there early.
We've got to set up.
We have no idea what we're doing.
We'll get some amps, a PA, some microphones and just figure it out.
It's whatever.
You know, we'll be there and we'll, you know, we'll be working all day tomorrow.
So thanks for watching the show.
And for everybody who's coming out, we'll see you there.
And for everyone who missed it, there'll be more to come and we'll make sure we get you up.
So thanks for hanging out.
We'll see y'all next time.
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