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Aug. 12, 2021 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool

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Timcast IRL - Democrat Media Attacks Local Restaurant To Silence Inflation Story w/Kyle Becker

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How's it going everybody?
		I almost didn't want to do this story as the lead for a few reasons.
		One, I think a lot of people are commenting that the story about a local restaurant being attacked by establishment media and Democrat activists isn't that big of a deal.
		I saw one person said, oh, it must be a slow news day.
		No, this is just substantially more important than other news.
		I mean, we've got some big stories.
		We've got San Francisco is going to be, they've announced they're launching their vaccine passports.
		I mean, that's a huge story.
		Uh, it's the third city to do it.
		I think that matters.
		I think it matters a whole lot.
		But this story about the restaurant really, really got to me.
		I don't want to do it for the other reason was that drawing more attention on some working class dude and his buddy who just want to serve burgers and chicken wings.
		I think it might be bad for them, you know, but I can't ignore what's going on with the psychosis of these Democrat media establishment types.
		And I'm trying to figure out, like, how do you describe these people?
		They are authoritarian psychopaths, all right?
		The gist of the story is some guy gave a quote to local media about his rising costs of food because of inflation.
		It was not political in any sense of the imagination.
		Local GOP highlighted the story, calling it bot inflation.
		Now what's happening is several different Democrat-aligned media outlets have called the restaurant liars, insulted them, they're mocking them, and they're driving a harassment campaign at them to the point where, you know, I got a call, I called them for a comment to clarify, like, what's going on?
		Because the gag is that their mayonnaise was their guzzling mayonnaise.
		Now people are going after the business.
		They're slamming them on Yelp, and this guy didn't even do anything.
		He never criticized Biden.
		He had said nothing about it.
		He just said, oh yeah, inflation's been, you know, kind of intense.
		We're spending, you know, 200 bucks more per week on mayonnaise.
		And now to see what they're doing to regular people.
		I'll tell you why I think this story is more important.
		Then a lot of other things it shows you.
		You have an authoritarian despotic cult that will destroy a local business simply because something they said that was true and factual threatens their regime, their stupid system.
		Yo, Biden's responsible for the inflation for a lot of reasons.
		This guy didn't even say that.
		Now what's happened?
		You get Huffington Post, The Independent, Indy 100, going after a small business and calling them liars and driving these lunatics on the internet at this restaurant?
		And now they're telling me they're worried, like, is this gonna- is this- are we gonna get, you know, shut down because of this?
		Are they gonna come after us?
		It's gonna hurt us.
		We don't know what's gonna happen next.
		Dude seemed like he was genuinely scared because he never experienced this and this guy's totally apolitical.
		We got to talk about this, about how when you get effectively brown shirts going around beating people in a submission, what that's going to lead to.
		So we'll talk about that.
		We'll talk about what's going on in San Francisco with the other side of the authoritarian coin.
		And we're being joined by Kyle Becker, CEO of Becker News.
		How's it going, man?
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Good, Tim.
		Thanks for having me on.
		It's been great and I look forward to talking with you during the show.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You want to just do a little brief introduction, like your work, what you do?
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so I run my own website, beckernews.com.
		You can find me on Twitter at Kyle N. A. Becker.
		And, you know, I've been in the media for a while as former Fox News associate producer and writer.
		And, you know, I've worked in media for a while.
		Viral media expert, so.
		Cool.
		That's kind of I have a perspective on that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for coming.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Good to see you, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We got Ian.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Before I forget, I think a lot of these writers that are writing this that are like taking things and printing them out of context.
		At first, I thought they seemed psychotic because they're less they're not critically thinking.
		They're kind of stupid, you could argue.
		But then I'm thinking maybe they're just dizzy, because if you take the best pitcher in Major League Baseball in the world and you spin them around really fast for a long time and then you ask him to throw a pitch, it's going to be terribly off.
		So maybe these people are just all F'd up, confused, messed up, terrified, and so they're acting weird.
		And it's not that they're stupid.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When we went over Philip DeFranco's tweet, you know Philip DeFranco?
		He tweeted just like this really vile, nasty thing like, F you, I'm not gonna apologize to you, you anti-vaxxer.
		I'm like, when did people go, when did they become evil?
		Where they were like, I will burn you to the ground for no reason!
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think that the the pressure that we've seen over the last two years, the pressure cooker that we've all been in starting with the elections.
		We had the you know, the January 6th event.
		We've had the covid lockdowns that seem to be going on and on and on, or at least, you know, the regulations.
		And, you know, we have the critical race theory and all of these things is sort of, you know, a menagerie of forces or people being pulled in different directions by information that we're all exposed to.
		We're an information overload.
unidentified		Sure, sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I'm just saying, like, I mean, why did people turn into... It's almost like, you know, Bilbo Baggins in Lord of the Rings when he's all like, oh Frodo, can I see the ring?
		You know, like, what happened to people where all of a sudden they become demonic and possessed?
		But I don't want to drag on.
		We'll get to all this stuff for sure.
		We got Lydia pressing buttons.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I'm in the corner pressing buttons.
		I'm excited for tonight's conversation.
		As always, very intrigued to learn about Mayo Gate.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Mayo Gate.
		Man, this one got me really angry.
		It gets me really angry.
		Because these are just regular working-class people who don't care for politics, want to be left alone.
		But I've been saying this for some time.
		You think ducking your head and getting out of the way?
		No, no.
		They'll come knocking.
		They're going door to door.
		I said this was going to happen.
		I had all these leftists being like, Tim Pooles lost his mind, saying they're going to come for you.
		Regular guy.
		Did nothing wrong.
		They're coming after him.
		They're giving him bad reviews.
		It's crazy stuff, man.
		Okay, but we'll get into it.
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		My friends, welcome to MayonnaiseGate.
		We'll give it the funniest name we can.
		MayoGate.
		This is a story from WXII.
		Winston-Salem restaurants struggling due to inflation caused by pandemic.
		Experts blame inflated prices on high demand due to the pandemic.
		High demand and low supply.
		Why is there a low supply?
		Because in April, 4 million people quit their job.
		They're calling it the Great Resignation.
		Why are people quitting their jobs?
		Because they don't have to pay rent and because they are getting $16 an hour on average from unemployment payments.
		That's not literally every single person who quit their job doing it for that reason, but a large reason is this.
		When people don't need to work to get money and they don't need to pay rent, they say to themselves, maybe I should do something else and be more fulfilled.
		I can respect not wanting to work crappy jobs.
		But when people don't work, they don't make stuff.
		When there's no stuff, there's low supply and the demand remains the same, prices will
	start going up.
	Now many of these media organizations are trying to obfuscate this.
	They don't want people to realize it is the fault of Democrat policies and Joe Biden's
	administration.
	So they'll do everything in their power to lie, cheat and steal.
	And the worst thing about it is this story really grinds my gears because they're attacking
	for no good reason, a local restaurant in North Carolina that didn't even get political.
	This is Mayonnaise Gate.
	How hilarious.
	And sad.
	Here's what happened.
	They say, WXII spoke with the owner of The Sherwood, a family-owned restaurant in Winston-Salem.
	Pete straights the owner to find out how much trouble inflation has caused.
	He says that an increase in prices has put his business in a difficult situation.
	Quote, You can only offset so much in this business, and it seems like every year you lose here, you lose there.
	I'll give you an example.
	I'm paying $200 more a week in mayonnaise.
	Now, when I saw this story, it was because a bunch of Democrat-aligned media figures were mocking the restaurant and calling them liars, saying if prices went up by 5.4%, that would mean that $200, that would equal $3,700 in mayonnaise per week.
	Because these people seem to think that the price increase is static across all products, because they have no idea how the economy works.
	Surprise, surprise when they try and push communism or socialism.
	What really happened, because I called the restaurant and asked them to clarify, one of the partners simply said, oh yeah, you know, we do about ten buckets per week, they're five gallons each, and they used to be about eighteen dollars, now they're thirty-six.
	So, you do the math, it's, you know, eighteen bucks times ten, it's about two hundred dollars.
	And I went, makes sense to me.
	And he said, we use the mayonnaise for our dressings and things like that, and anybody who knows, who's worked in the restaurant industry, knows you go through a lot of Here's what we end up getting.
	We have this from Indy 100.
	Republicans tried to attack Joe Biden over the price of mayonnaise, and the responses were hilarious.
	Posting on Twitter, the official branch of the party shared a story in which restauranteurs expressed dismayo about the price of mayo.
	Yes, saying they were spending more than $200 a week on it and claimed this was due to Bidenflation.
	The restaurant never said that.
	That's a lie.
	The restaurant never blamed Joe Biden for this.
	But Indy is saying restaurateurs blamed Bidenflation.
	The North Carolina Republicans must have been too hangry and lacking in egg nutrients to notice, however.
	The article they shared quoted experts who blamed the coronavirus pandemic on inflation and not on Biden.
	Here's what we have from The Independent.
	This is from a different writer.
	GOP ridiculed for bizarre Biden mayonnaise smear.
	Something might be happening with mayo consumption in North Carolina.
	These people didn't bother doing a simple Google search, calling a restaurant, getting
	a quote and saying how much mayonnaise is normal for a restaurant to use.
	We also have the Huffington Post.
	Republicans attempt to smear Biden over mayonnaise gets creamed on Twitter.
	How much mayo can one restaurant use in a week anyway?
	And you get all your normal culprits.
	Aaron Rupar.
	Everybody knows Aaron Rupar.
	Yeah, there's a verb.
	It's called Rupar.
	To Rupar someone.
	What's the definition?
	To take something out of context and mischaracterize.
	To falsely frame a story.
	What designer drug is mayonnaise code for?
	Jonah Blank says, somebody's eating way too much mayonnaise.
	Then, I don't care for these regular, you know, this guy who works at Facebook said, just imagine the heroic amounts of mayo this restaurant must be going through.
	These people are a combination of ignorant, arrogant, and aggressive.
	And that is shockingly terrifying, because what does that mean?
	They're too stupid to understand how basic economics works, why a restaurant might need 50 gallons of mayonnaise per week, which probably does.
	The restaurant capacity, I also reached out, 250 people.
	You get 250 people at one time in a restaurant during a waitlist period, and you've all seen a wait- you've all had a waitlist at a restaurant.
	How much mayonnaise do you think they're going to use for 250 people in a 30 minute period?
	And now, how many people are coming to the restaurant every day?
	Could be a thousand?
	Yeah.
	Instead, here's what ends up happening.
	They all end up lying, saying mayoflation, mocking the restaurant, and it turns into something much more terrifying.
	When people start going to their Yelp and saying things like, one star review, way too much mayonnaise, just mayo everywhere, or one star review, too much mayonnaise, used to love the place, but mayo is too much.
	And so I'm told by the owner, At first they were like, oh, this is silly.
	What's going on?
	This is we're getting trolled or something.
	And then he said that this morning, you know, it got so intense.
	He starts getting scared.
	He's all these reviews are coming in.
	You know, it's something something is happening and he's scared about what's going to happen.
	They're trying to make it seem like this guy, a regular guy who was not involved in politics, insulted Joe Biden and lied about his the prices to make him look bad.
	And now these lunatics are actually trying to cause damage to this restaurant who is not political.
	I have said it before and I will say it again.
	If you think sitting down and hiding is going to get you out of whatever is going on, you are wrong.
	And all that's going to happen is this will be life for everyone.
	You'll be sitting in your little cafe and you're like, I just run a small business.
	I have nothing to do with politics and I don't want to be involved.
	And then one day Antifa will show up and throw a brick through your window because someone accused you of being racist.
	We've seen stuff like that happen.
	In Berkeley, the people have to put signs in all their windows.
	I was in Berkeley for some protest event, and there was a nail salon with all of this leftist signage in the windows.
	And I'm like, there's no way these working class women who are in there, immigrants, are that adamant about their activism.
	And so I went to a bar.
	And as I'm sitting at the bar, I'm eating a burger.
	There was a big thing on the window that insulted Trump and said that he was some kind of turd or something.
	And I asked the bartender, I was like, all right, what's, you know, everybody has these signs on the window, you know, yours is like, you know, more insult, more, more derogatory.
	And she's like, yeah, you know, you have to do it.
	And I was like, so you don't, do you agree with that message?
	Like, are you guys like anti-Trump?
	And she said, no, if you don't do it, they'll smash your windows.
	That's what it's like living in the Bay Area.
	There was a Burger King I saw.
	This was back in, I think, 2015 or 2016.
	A Burger King had a big sign in the window and it said, Please do not destroy our windows.
	We are a family-owned restaurant franchise, not a corporate location.
	That's what life is like when you let these people keep doing this stuff.
	During the, I think it was the, was it the G20?
	Or was it the G7?
	I don't know.
	It was in Hamburg.
	They went around smashing up storefronts.
	And there's this photo of all of these stores smashed up except for one.
	And do you know why that one store wasn't smashed up?
	It had the communist fist in the window.
	This is an attack on a regular, regular, regular family guy.
	This is this is the stuff that I've been saying they will keep doing and they and people want to act like I guess out of the 300 or so you know 320 million people in this country excluding the children so you got maybe 250 people how many of them you know are adults Yeah, maybe you'll be safe and you'll be lucky.
	Maybe as you're in the crowd and the bear starts charging in, you're like, I can run faster than everybody else.
	Maybe you'll be the one person, but man, you could stand up right now and tell these people to shut up, call out the media for lying and going after regular people who are not political, punching down as hard as they can, or you can sit back and let your children inherit this future.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		So I tweeted about this the other day.
		I said, um, I said something about Winston Churchill and his quote about feeding the alligator.
		And I said, at this point, conservatism has become nothing but feeding the alligator.
		Cause all we're doing is saying, I just want to be left alone.
		Just let me do my own thing.
		I just want to grill.
		Right?
		That's like the meme.
		You can't do that anymore.
		Like you don't have a choice.
		And I also tweeted something inflammatory about how it is now your role to fight.
		You don't get to have your white picket fence.
		You don't get to necessarily have your American dream because It's being thwarted by the far left and this crazy people in the media, and your role right now is to figure out what you're going to do about it.
		And I think until people figure that out, we're going to have a serious problem.
		We can't just keep sitting back and taking it, but that's what conservatives do.
		Why?
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well this story is more disgusting than a mayo sandwich, let me just put it that way.
		I'm marinating in it and I'm listening to Tim, but what really jumps out to me is that the Democrats a long time ago lost any pretense that they care about the little man.
		They are not up for the real victims in society, they're the victimizers in the society.
		They obfuscate that with their grievance politics, their identitarian politics that they continually shuffle out, but they don't care about the folks getting shot in Chicago.
		Anything that goes against their agenda or against their narrative, they either ignore it, downplay it, or attack people who draw attention to it.
		And this poor guy in North Carolina who's just trying to put food on his family's table, just trying to run a small business, but is extremely difficult due to a lot of the policies and Democrat-run states, the lockdown policies.
		Where are them championing the little guys, the small business owners.
		Jeff Bezos and Amazon raking it in hand over fist this entire time.
		They don't scrutinize how it's benefiting corporations and multi-billionaires.
		They don't draw attention to it.
		They're the forgotten man.
		This guy in North Carolina, he's the forgotten man in society.
		He's just one example of countless that you can draw attention to of just grabbing what looks to be a ludicrous headline, And their lack of compassion and lack of sympathy for these small business owners, who's obviously struggling, is illustrated by the fact that they're not sympathetic with him.
		It's like, oh, it must be very difficult.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not only is it Democrat policies and Joe Biden's administration that are responsible for the inflation, but the people who voted him are gloating and mocking you and laughing as you struggle through the muck.
		They're the ones who threw the sewage on the floor and they're laughing as you slip in it.
		Now let me explain, because there may be a lot of people saying, it's not, it was inflation, not Joe Biden.
		Extended unemployment benefits.
		People are getting 16 bucks an hour not to work.
		We've already heard from many experts that this is a push factor, and so a lot of people don't want jobs.
		And the response we get from many of the Democrat establishment activists is, yeah, well, people shouldn't work these crappy jobs anyway, and they should pay better.
		So it's an acknowledgement, we know.
		So long as you give people the benefits, if they don't have to work, they won't.
		You've got the eviction moratorium.
		People aren't paying rent.
		Some people are, a lot of people are paying rent, but some people aren't.
		This means that there is now a bottleneck where retirees and mom-and-pop landlords, people who own one building and rent out their basement, can't make ends meet.
		This ripples across the board.
		You've also got just you've got the gas shortage caused by a worker shortage caused by those factors, which causes all prices to go up.
		So inflation across the board is on the rise.
		So long as Joe Biden wants to enact a legal eviction moratorium, so long as he wants to extend these benefits.
		And it's not just him.
		It's the administration, the Democrats.
		And so long as he wants to shut down a gas pipeline, which causes speculators to buy more.
		I'm not a fan of speculators, by the way.
		Causes them to buy more, driving up prices.
		And then shut down fracking on federal land, which causes speculators to predict short supply, which increases speculation and causes price to go up for gasoline.
		These are factors caused by Joe Biden directly.
		His policies, his administration, and Democrats.
		I am no fan of the Republican Party.
		I think they're trash.
		Most Americans actually have a worse view of Republicans than Democrats, but the Democrats are the ones who are doing this right now.
		So I tell you this.
		I feel bad for this restaurant.
		I'm also kind of frustrated with people like this, these restaurants.
		I can't expect him to have known what was going on, but if you think that you can sit back and ignore the world around you And then you will be safe when the fires or the storm comes.
		I'm sorry, that's just not true.
		All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
		And so you have, I talked to the guy, I talked to two of the people at the restaurant, got a comment.
		And, you know, their sentiment was, we don't want to be involved in politics.
		I think both sides are bad, both parties suck, and both sides are doing it.
		And I said, I told him, The right, the anti-establishment types, these aren't the people who are attacking your restaurant right now because you expressed a fact about your prices.
		So if regular people don't wake up to these extremists, by all means, the alt-right, they've been gone for three years.
		Nobody likes them.
		I get it.
		Now we have a cult-like authoritarian left that is going to attack anybody who says a fact that goes against their narrative.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Or for no reason at all, as we saw with the Black Lives Matter and Antifa riots all last year.
		They attacked other black small business owners directly, burned them to the ground, bashed their windows.
		And I really liked what you said about hanging signs in your door just kind of as kind of a totem or a sign.
		When I go to this lily white neighborhoods in Westchester County, I see Black Lives Matter sign everywhere.
		I don't think it's because they sincerely believe in this neo-Marxist organization.
		I think it's a totem.
		It's like a Jewish Passover where you put the blood on your door and you want people to leave you alone.
		I did a little social experiment.
		They had a church right next to a school and they had all these Black Lives Matter signs and all of their little punch phrases like, love is love, etc, etc.
		You know, typical Maoist type brainwashing sort of things that they put on the sign.
		I took a sign, I ordered it myself, and I put, I believe in racial equality, I believe in freedom of speech, I believe in, and I listed all of these different freedoms on there that I, you know, just from the Constitution, and put it out there, you know, basically to provide some kind of contrast, and I just put it right in the middle of the signs and just waited.
		And I took a picture and I came, came back guess what they had taken a sign and they got rid of it because they are not for equality they're for equity and that means the government controlling all social relations uh in this country and so no you're not going to be safe the the covid passports all of this stuff they are we're not used to this sort of in-your-face intrusion but it's going to get worse because as you can see uh
		You know, nobody is safe.
		It's going to be like the social credit score in China that you were talking about.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, yeah.
		So we got this story from kron4.
		San Francisco mandates proof of full COVID vaccine at indoor venues.
		I love this title, indoor venues, because it's not the truth.
		They actually explain in the article it's not indoor venues.
		What's a venue?
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		A venue is a forum.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		It's like a public forum.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When you say venue, you're thinking like a bar or a theater or a concert.
		You're not thinking cafe.
		Unless the cafe is a small stage, I guess.
		But they actually go on to say that it is more than just venues.
		It's restaurants, cafes, bars, gyms.
		Mayor London Breed announced Thursday during a press conference.
		I don't think the vaccine passport ultimately is going to be the end result, whether it's intentional or not.
		It's going to be that you will have to show your papers wherever you go.
		It's funny that this is literally showing your papers.
		And we have...
		A historical look at the fascist regimes, the Nazis, and why showing your papers was frowned upon.
		The idea that you couldn't move about and freely associate without some kind of idea.
		And now you have... What's the meme?
		The punch-a-Nazi people had a really quick 180 and to show us your papers or something like that?
		Or an alarming number of punch-a-Nazi people are now saying show us your papers.
		This is it.
		And they'll start with something like this.
		But it's just about keeping people safe with the vaccines.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		That's my issue with this, that it's all based on a false premise.
		The CDC director, Rochelle Walensky, admitted it about two weeks ago.
		She admitted that the vaccines, so-called, do not prevent transmission of the Delta variant, for example.
		And right now we're seeing a spike in the Delta variant.
		But the mortality rates are low and hospitalizations are being misrepresented.
		But still, it's so low.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The specific issue there is they're saying the vaccine will reduce your likelihood to get it.
		But the CDC also says viral load in those breakthrough cases are the same as those who are unvaccinated.
		The bigger problem, I suppose, is animal repositories.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Yes, of course.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Reservoirs, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right, reservoirs.
		We've seen all the stories about dogs and cats getting COVID, and if that's the case, and it can transfer back, I'm not gonna pretend to be a doctor, because I don't know, then that would be alarming, and we're not vaccinating our pets.
		So ultimately, I'll say this, and I always do, I don't give medical advice.
		I'm not here to discourage or encourage anybody.
		You talk to a doctor, make sure you do what's right by you.
		There was a story the other day about this nurse in Germany who swapped out people's vaccines for saline, and that to me is a violation of informed consent and psychotic.
		If an elderly person wants to get medication, their doctor recommends it, no one should be doing that.
		That's crazy.
		But my bigger issue is, hey men, if you go to your doctor and your doctor says, here's the medicine I prescribed to you, I go to the doctor.
		The doctor says, okay, I shouldn't have to go to get tested for something or then go to a venue and show them my medical ID because it's going to go beyond that.
		This right now, it's how they get you.
		They say, well, we want to stop the pandemic.
		You got to get the app.
		You got to get the Excelsior pass.
		And in a year, I tell you, it's going to be something else.
		It's going to be, oh, you said naughty words.
		It's going to be total social credit.
		It was funny, I tweeted this.
		I tweeted, social credit scores are next.
		And some establishment lefties are like, you watch too much TV.
		I thought it was funny.
		And I was like, yeah, maybe, because I watched a documentary from the German outlet DW, and
		they interviewed some Chinese individuals working on the social credit stuff, talking
		about how amazing it was, and how crime has gone down, and it's so amazing now that people
		are recognizing that you can't just do these things like, oh yeah, putting people in rigid
		boxes.
		The biggest problem I have with it?
		Centralized authority doesn't work.
		It spins out of control, dissent emerges rapidly, and because of the centralized control and people being pressed down, there's no pressure release for the people.
		There's no protest, there's no moment of being left alone.
		And that's one of the things I said a year or so ago, two years ago maybe.
		I said, they will never leave you alone.
		If you think keeping your head down is going to keep you out of this political conflict, you are wrong.
		And the best thing you can do now is speak up before it's too late.
		Unfortunately, people don't care.
		It's a sad, it's a sad tale, man.
		We have how many stories from the past about totalitarians, authoritarians, and why you must speak up.
		But I didn't speak up because I wasn't X or I wasn't Y. And I don't want to lose my job because, you know, I have kids.
		I said this over the past couple of years.
		Speak up at your job when they do the critical race applied principle stuff.
		Speak up against it.
		Stand up against it.
		And people say, but I'll get fired.
		Think about the future for your kids.
		And they say, well, you know.
		Okay, well, now you're at the point where your job is mandating either masks or vaccines, and we get people commenting being like, what do I do?
		And I'm like, you could have stood up last year, you know, and pushed back against the authoritarian, you know, takeover.
		But for now, I would just recommend first going to your doctor and making a decision on your own health.
		And then if you if you can't work at this place, whatever reason, leave the job.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and I think what we're seeing right now is that a bunch of the elitists who are at the forefront pushing a lot of these collectivist policies are in a sort of cocoon of political correctness.
		They are taking the path of least resistance.
		They're not used to people pushing back.
		They're not used to people, and you don't even have to do it to push back in a sort of angry, mean way.
		Any kind of objection to them, especially if you show your human side and really put pressure on them, can be effective.
		And I've seen this firsthand in the school district that I live in.
		They did a critical race theory thing under the guise of so-called Unity Day.
		The superintendent, after I had shown a spotlight on it, was effectively begging me to go and meet them in person because they weren't surprised at all that the angry parents were responding.
		So I went and I talked with them and politely explained why parents were so angry and gave them some options.
		And I think that, you know, this kind of where you look at sort of the middle managers in this system of all of these groups that sort of are kind of at the front, they're not used to people being angry.
		They're used to social pressure.
		That's basically how they became a leftist to begin with, is because of peer pressure, going with the flow.
		They need to understand that there is no flow anymore.
		There is no, you know, just go along to get along sort of thing where you can run in this little suburban mom group and everybody's going to agree with you.
		You have to make sure that you understand they need to see you as a person.
		You need to look them in the eye and so that you don't agree with them and you need to You know, just show them that they're hurting people with these policies, and that they're causing real damage to this country, and they're people who are suffering, and that, you know, they may believe they have good intentions, but nobody ever really explains to them the human cost, like we saw with the North Carolina restaurant owner.
		There's a face to these people who they're hurting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There is a flow that people can go with, and it leads to a waterfall.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So the people who are sitting back being like, hey man, look, I'm not gonna fight the current, eventually they just go, well, Well, you could have turned around, you could have paddled against it, you could have grabbed a tree branch, you've done something.
		But people just said, I don't want to rock the boat, you know, the captain seems to know what he's doing, and the cliff is right there.
		That's what it feels like to me.
		The people who are running this stuff, in these councils, in these city board meetings, they have no idea what they're doing.
		They have no idea what's going on.
		They don't know what is or isn't because the rules keep changing.
		And then you have people sitting there being like, well, you know, they'll do it, I guess.
		Nah, people gotta wake up and be responsible for their own lives, man.
		There's a substantive lack of personal responsibility among a lot of Americans these days.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and I just I think that right now what we're seeing with this sort of information landscape that we're all we're all kind of immersed in and that you know we're in independent media or alternative media and they're trying to change the landscape to take away our opportunities to reach these people and to organize them and you know I've been Trying to organize people to have political pushback since the Tea Party movement in 2010.
		You know, these sort of organic grassroots sort of organization that we need to do, that can be successful and it can work, but you have to get out and you have to You know, make sure that you're very visible.
		I mean, in New York, they recently had a protest against the COVID mandates and the passports and they made a real show of force.
		But it's just glaring how that's not really the case in this country.
		It's kind of surprising to me.
		It's kind of a letdown that we're not really getting out in force.
		So I just want to encourage people to really start using those networks that they built up over the years and start You know, don't be afraid to go out and organize and to do things.
		The worst thing they can do is is try to force you to get home.
		And if you do or force you to go home or disperse for not having an ordinance or having a petition, then get it on video.
		Send it to influencers.
		Make it known that there is real authoritarianism behind these policies and make them make people understand that these are authoritarians.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They can't hide behind I think there's going to be a big wake-up call for a lot of people now with the mandates.
		NBC News ran this article saying that vaccine mandates will hurt corporations that are trying to hire, because a lot of people are going to be like, wait, what?
		I have to do what?
		You know, we talk about this restaurant, this guy who's not political, he doesn't know what's going on.
		He's like, I don't want to be involved, right?
		How many people were ignoring all of this being like, well, we don't go outside, we wear a mask, okay, whatever.
		You had, who was it, Bill Burr, the comedian, where he was like, I turn on the TV every two weeks and then, you know, they tell me to wear a mask, I'll wear it, whatever.
		You had Ethan Klein from H3 saying, you just go to the CDC and they tell you what to do, you don't even gotta think about it.
		These are the people who are gonna wake up one day when they go to work and they're gonna be like, oh, did you get your vaccine?
		And they're gonna be like, wait, for my what?
		Do you have to do that?
		Yeah, otherwise you're fired.
		And they're gonna be like, Hold on a minute.
		Because there's a big line between wearing a mask and getting something injected into you.
		Again, you know, you go to your doctor.
		The problem is, some people might have... Okay, and I looked up the pronunciation.
		Guillain-Barré?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Guillain-Barré?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, it is not Guillain.
		I looked it up and talked to a French guy.
		I can't pronounce it.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Guillain-Barré?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Gilan Barre.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Barre.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, cool.
		Yeah, and, or you can, if you say it fast, Gilan Barre Syndrome.
		All right.
		And, because it's named after two guys, and that was their name.
		And, because people keep telling me different pronunciations for it, so I finally, like,
		just watched a video talking about the scientists, and I'm like, argh!
		Anyway, if you have an underlying health condition and your doctor recommends against it, people
		are going to wake up hard to, like, wait a minute, hold on a minute.
		There was this band playing a show in Florida where they said it's $1,000 a ticket, but it's only $18 if you can prove you've been vaccinated.
		And so this one woman gave an interview where she was like, my doctor recommended against the vaccine and now I can't go to the show.
		But rich people can.
		That's going to be the thing that kind of pulls people into what's going on.
		Like, all of a sudden now, you've got people who are going to go to work one day and they're going to be like, you can't come back until you go to your doctor and talk to them.
		They're going to be like, really?
		And now people are going to be forced to ask questions and engage.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Well, I saw just this week there was an Ohio judge that sent a man who had possession of fentanyl.
		And he was up in front of the judge and he violated his probation.
		And one of the terms of the probation that he would be forced to take the vaccine.
		And one of the things that was interesting about that is the judge admitted, I'm not a doctor.
		And he supposedly just referred to the CDC's order and that he had to wear a mask and all of this stuff.
		The CDC is de facto acting as some extra legal actor in our, you know, in our policy process.
		But they are just ultimately bureaucrats.
		And not only can they be wrong, they have been wrong.
		Multiple times, whether it's surface contaminants or viral load after getting the vaccine and transmission.
		It just goes on and on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Fauci recognizes that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, he says the science changed.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		The science doesn't change.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Your understanding of the science changed because you were not making it according to the empirical evidence that is right in front of you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think the science changes.
		The problem is in an emergency situation, they're making recommendations off of incomplete information.
		So they're like, here's what we noticed.
		So Fauci said this.
		This is actually what Fauci said, that at first they said, don't wear masks.
		Then they found out asymptomatic people were spreading it and said, OK, now wear masks.
		So they were still in the process of trying to figure out what's going on.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		And then they said it was aerosolized and instead of just.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		And so, you know, and so a mask is not going to have any effect short of an N95 potentially that in a I'll tell you the issue I have with the establishment, with YouTube on this one is, celebrities can come out and tell you, go and do it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can't come out and say, don't, right?
		And the argument is, well, the CDC is advising for these things, right, right, right.
		Well, hold on.
		I think I shouldn't recommend anything at all.
		I think you should talk to a medical professional.
		You know, somebody who actually knows.
		I don't want to get sued if I give someone medical advice that's bad.
		I don't want to get sued if I give financial advice that's bad.
		I don't think celebrities are in a place to decide what someone should be doing with their health because they may have, like Pete Parata, formerly of The Offspring, Guillain-Barre syndrome, probably, however you pronounce it.
		And so anyway, what ends up happening is you see all these celebrities telling people to do something.
		I think because of that blind zealotry, vaccine zealotry, you'll end up with more reports in the VAERS system, people who are adversely impacted, because they should have gone to a doctor and then said to them, like, oh, I have this, that, or otherwise.
		The doctor might've been like, oh, okay, for that reason, I say no.
		So there's probably a small percentage of people, I do think the vaccines are overwhelmingly safe, I think it's fine, but I ultimately think I'm not gonna tell an individual to ignore their doctor, like a celebrity would.
		That to me is a problem.
		If you want to tell someone to go to their... I even had establishment Democrat types attacking me as anti-vax for saying, please go to your doctor.
		I was on Twitter and I was like, celebrities should not be encouraging people.
		They should be encouraging them to go to their doctor.
		And people were like, you're an anti-vaxxer.
		I'm like, what?
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		I really liked what Dr. Drew said the other day in this sort of a, you know,
		mini viral rant that he had about this, that, that when he was a doctor and he
		was treating his patients, the CDC was like some kind of footnote that, you
		know, you, okay.
		Oh, the CDC is, she says that the WHO says that that's great.
		It's like, goes in the file of things and you just don't pay attention to it
		very much unless it's a headliner sort of thing of, you know, a drug problem or
		something like this.
		It wasn't the authority body that you took orders from.
		No.
		If you have a license to practice medicine, you treat people on an
		individual patient basis and you know, all the statistics, you know, the health
		factors, the risk factors you, and you know, I mean, you don't need the CDC to
		You need them to publish them.
		And sure, sure, there might be some guidance there, but it's kind of like in the healthful suggestions thing.
		And a doctor can be go.
		Thank you.
		Thank you very much for your opinion.
		But that's fine.
		I've got it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's the authoritarian creep.
unidentified		Right.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It was Trump.
		Trump's a hypochondriac and he gave full power to the CDC and Fauci just completely elevated it all.
		And I was like, it's a horrible global pandemic.
		And then he gave it.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Trump definitely deserves some criticism for what you're saying.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He is a germaphobe I hear.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, absolutely.
		The handshakes for a long time.
		He didn't want to shake people's hands.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was told that he only eats fast food because you can walk in, order it, and it's already pre-made.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And there's a concern about if he orders it to order, someone will do something to it.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Well, no wonder he got used to the ketchup that he puts on a steak.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		I think that may be the only exception, but you could be right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I love the ketchup and steak story.
		Do you remember this one?
		Do you guys remember this one?
		It's really, really good.
		And I'm going to bring it back up because we haven't said in a long time.
		It was a big report about Trump having this very fancy, like dry aged steak, well done with ketchup.
		And the media insulted him and ridiculed him and said he was so uncouth and, oh, he doesn't even know how to eat steak.
		Oh, this guy's ridiculous.
		Meanwhile, working-class union guy in the Midwest was sitting there eating his well-done T-bone with ketchup going, that's how I like my steak.
		See, when I was growing up, we had the garbage steaks from the local supermarket.
		You don't cook those rare.
		You gotta cook them through, because they're not good steaks.
		And then you schlop ketchup on them.
		So you do.
		My dad would always be like, you know that's an insult, right?
		It's like, I make my steaks good.
		But we had good steaks when I was a kid.
		We weren't always eating bad steaks.
		But when we would, it's like, you cook it through.
		Donald Trump does that.
		It's relatable to working class people who can't afford the filet mignon.
		To the rich people, they're laughing.
		Medium rare, a little garlic and salt.
		What's he doing?
		What a nut.
		Just shows you how the establishment hates the little guy.
		Like the story we were leading off with.
		But let's talk about the story.
		You see the protests breaking out in Tennessee over the masks in schools?
		All these parents showed up?
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I saw a clip of it this morning.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're screaming, there's a special place in hell for you, we'll find you, we know where you live.
unidentified		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what's really crazy about this stuff?
		First, I'll say a couple things.
		We have this story from CNN.
		School mask debate in Tennessee grows heated as local board requires masks in elementary schools.
		What's interesting is that Steve Bannon told us this.
		He said, come August 15th, when parents see what these schools are doing to their kids, the moms are gonna come out and all hell will break loose.
		Something to that effect, paraphrasing.
		And it wasn't just critical race applied principles, it wasn't just the masses, all of these things.
		And now it's August 12th and we're seeing parents screaming at these people.
		So I think Steve was right about that.
		I think it'll be interesting to see what happens in the next couple of weeks with schools coming back in full swing and parents being like, nah, none of this.
		But the crazy thing about it is, These school boards that are voting to have mask mandates while there are a hundred or so parents outside screaming insults and, you know, we know where you live, veiled threats.
		Why are they voting in favor of that?
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't know.
		These parents will have a long memory, too.
		They are not going to let this go.
		If they do something to harm their kids' mental health, like we saw that last year with the mask mandates and just the policies that they put in place in these schools.
		Depression went way up.
		Anxiety went up.
		Suicide hotline calls went way up.
		Suicide rates have crept up.
		harming their kids to a lot of in a lot of parents opinions.
		Not all some people think that it's protecting their kids, which is why we cannot have a shared reality right now,
		apparently.
		So they are not they're not going to let this go to him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what? You know what? You know what? These people don't understand.
		And I saw I'm thirty five.
		Right. The day.
		Time moves much more quickly as you get older, they say.
		And it's mostly because things become routine.
		At least, this is my view of it.
		When I wake up and have breakfast, and same breakfast over and over again, I don't have a strong memory of the breakfast I had, because it's the same breakfast I had 100 times.
		I'm older, a lot of my experiences are routine and forgettable.
		But the first time you rode a train.
		I remember the first time I rode a train.
		I remember the first time I flew in a plane.
		Because those were like things in my life I'd never done before.
		When you're younger, you're 10 years old.
		A day is a lot longer percentage-wise of your life.
		So imagine a year of not being able to go outside, go to the park, go play with your friends.
		It's like putting these kids in solitary confinement.
		I know a guy and his son committed suicide.
		He was 12 because of the lockdown.
		And then his dad came out and started doing advocacy saying, like, we can't do this to our kids, man.
		You're an adult.
		Maybe you don't mind sitting in your lounge chair and relaxing and working from home, but these kids are trying to experience life and it's being stripped away from them.
		If you're 10, 10% of your life was in solitary, basically.
		10%.
		For me, 1 35th of my life was spent with the lockdown.
		And I'm older and I'm working, running a company.
		I've had the experience.
		I've traveled the world.
		I've hung out with my friends.
		I've gone skateboarding.
		And now I'm like working from home, building a business.
		These kids, they want to go out.
		They want to explore.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think the narrative needs to be switched on its head.
		These children have a right to their childhood.
		They have a right to see smiling people.
		They have the right to live in a pleasant environment.
		And we're talking about the formative years, so it is really beyond a doubt.
		I was a psych department assistant.
		I'm immersed in all of psychology and childhood development and so forth.
		You are stunning their psychosocial development.
		It's really not even debatable.
		It's just a fact.
		If you take away the right to read, the ability of children to read emotions or to feel comfort and to see smiling faces and reassurance, you are basically, it's kind of like that old video, The Wall from Pink Floyd, you know?
		You're just creating like this factory of faceless you know, anonymous, just sort of, you know, you're dehumanizing
		them, you're alienating them, you're atomizing them. And this for me, it strikes me as a
		political program.
		It's not, it's the children are not in, from what I've seen, the research, Wall Street Journal,
		you can go just look at it. They're not appreciably at risk for this. Thank God. It's
		one of the small miracles that we can point to during this pandemic. And we're not taking
		advantage of it. It used to be in society where adults were wanted to be on the front lines.
		They wanted to bear the brunt of things. They wanted to protect their children at all costs.
		And now we're seeing from what I perceive as a lot of anxiety and hysteria and selfishness
		on the point of parents who just refuse to protect their children, their childhood. I mean,
		they're project, they're so selfish and narcissistic. They're projecting their own
		anxiety onto their own child.
		And for me, that just shows a lack of empathy and the ability to put yourself in another person's shoes.
unidentified		It's a real social scourge right now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I posted simply an image from Statista of COVID deaths by age group.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I said nothing.
		Made no comment.
		Screenshot post.
		Some establishment type, Democrat activist.
		Took the screengrab, circled the elderly and then said, Tim Pool doesn't care that these people are going to die.
		And I'm like, I literally said nothing.
		I literally had no comment on the data other than I just posted the data like, here's some information for you.
		It shows you the weakness that they're concerned about.
		The largest group at risk are people who are over 65.
		There is a decent risk for people over 40, and the risk diminishes for people who are under 40.
		I believe it's like 1.63% of deaths were under 40.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Close, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And 30%, according to the CDC, of people hospitalized were obese.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		It was much more than that.
		I read when it was 78% that CDC said they had obesity.
		But that is one study.
		It probably varies.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		CDC website said 30.2% of hospitalizations since the start of the pandemic was obesity.
		94% comorbidities.
		So I think understanding all the context, having that information when you go to your doctor and talk to them about what makes sense for you, and being healthy.
		Take care of yourself.
		Eat right.
		Be right.
		Be well.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		All that good stuff.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		94% of the people hospitalized by COVID have had comorbidities.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Of deaths.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		CDC says that.
		So in other words, 1.6% average of people with cardiopulmonary diseases, lung disease, diabetes, etc.
		Age is a morbidity.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So it's older people.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so there are plausible causes of death, and they happen to test positive for COVID as well.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		So they're not trying to do a diagnosis of a cause of death necessarily, but they're saying... I will stress too, a lot of people think that the 94% comorbidity means they didn't die from COVID.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's not true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		The way to describe it is like, imagine you have a bridge that's been old and dilapidated, and then someone jumps up and down on it.
		Like the COVID is the jumping up and down.
		Like, well, yeah, if you didn't do that, the bridge probably would have been fine.
		So you get something like COVID.
		And look, we've had a lot of people on this show, conservatives, who have either been vaccinated or have gotten COVID.
		And it sounds bad.
		Yeah, we've talked to some people on the show.
		I don't want to out the people who have experienced bad sicknesses, but we've had people who are like, dude, it was miserable.
		Like two weeks of fatigue?
		Yeah.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		You get that with the shots too, though.
		I mean, I had the Moderna round, a couple of those, and yeah, it wiped me for a couple of weeks.
		But the thing for this, that we want to introduce it to all of our troops.
		For me, that is too risky.
		These are young, athletic, You know, physically fit people who are not necessarily at risk that much.
		It's very similar to seasonal flu, if you look at the statistics for that particular age group, 20 to 30.
		And I think it's very... I think you wait until all of the results come in to make that decision.
		So I think they should be very careful about that.
		I'm a little concerned.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I definitely agree with being careful.
		I definitely think the challenge here is I hope that they go on an individual basis.
		That's always the important thing because of potential underlying conditions.
		But at the same time, I mean, if we've got people that have to go into conflict and deploy and go into areas, it would be nightmarish if there was an outbreak of COVID.
		Of any illness, really.
		My understanding was that, you know, people who, when they go through BASIC, they get a bunch of vaccines anyway.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, I agree.
		I think we gotta be really careful right now, simply because we need FDA approval, for sure.
		We need to make sure we're doing right by all of the science, and with Fauci saying the science changes as we learn more, it's like, okay, well, let's make sure, if it's our military, we're gonna be extra careful to make sure that we have the capability to defend ourselves and our allies.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		I'm just wondering if the vaccine could harm even metabolism or you know to have some sort of lingering effects.
		It is possible that it could cause some sort of reaction and I mean because you're intentionally stimulating the immune system to have a response against an antigen.
		That's tricky.
		That is true, but... This is something that Charlie Kirk brought up when we were on the debate with Vosh.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He mentioned Guillain-Barre syndrome.
		He said that CDC has put out a nerve damage warning for the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.
		That side effect actually is for many other vaccines as well.
		So, you know, I went to the CDC a few years ago.
		Uh, this was during, I think, Zika.
		And I did an interview, because we were, you know, we were just trying to find some, like, interesting stories, and it was around the time The Division came out.
		You ever play that game?
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		I didn't play The Division.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Awesome game, by the way.
		And it's basically, like, the world is a post-pandemic apocalyptic scenario.
		And so I was like, let's go do an interview with the CDC and ask them about their, um... I forgot what it was called.
		It was like Operation Something, where they simulated a large-scale pandemic.
		And it was really interesting.
		And what I was told there by some of the people at the CDC was, there are risks for vaccines and side effects.
		They're well known.
		They're on the CDC's website.
		Make sure you read that stuff and talk to your doctor because you could be in that small percentage group.
		They said the challenges for a lot of these diseases, if there's like, we're expecting to get 200,000 deaths from a disease, and the vaccine could result in 50,000 adverse reactions, we have to choose the least amount of damage, so we'll encourage people to get the vaccines.
		And I understand that.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		It is quite utilitarian, but I can't pretend to have the answers for people other than... But you see that with children, the mortality rate is lower than the incidence rate of reaction reported by VAERS.
		But I mean, obviously, mortality is worst case outcome.
		But pericarditis, myocarditis and so on is very serious.
		So, I mean, obviously, we sit here, we second guess and we armchair a lot of these
		health experts. But when you when you look at, you know, the problem
		is and you see with any kind of information system, it reminds me of a kind of like a
		Hayek versus Cain sort of argument.
		When you have decentralized sort of, you know, decision makers, you know, we have doctors who can assess individual health risks and just have that patient-centric care that we're so used to in the United States where we have a consumer model of medicine provision.
		You know, that has tended to serve the United States people very well.
		We have superior cancer treatment.
		We have some of the most advanced medical centers in the world.
		But what we're seeing right now is a more socialized medicine approach where bureaucrats who are treating everyone in American society as if they're a homogenous group and we're all likely to have serious reaction to COVID or the Delta variant, which is predominant in the United States right now and is much weaker and less deadly statistically.
		It's treating us as if we're all at equal risk.
		This is not the way the United States medicine has been practiced.
		And we've always relied on our doctors to make the best judgments.
		There's a few exceptions, you know, smallpox, for example, you know, led to, you know, mandates for vaccines.
		So it isn't the first time it's ever happened in this country, by the way.
		Um, but, but what we see with the with the vaccines, they just rolled out so fast with the warp speed.
		And, you know, there's a lot of conflicting information.
		We're in the information age now, and it's just we're getting pulled in different directions.
		It's undermining trust for a lot of people.
		And they're projecting their fear of the vaccine into their general distrust of the establishment, you know, the people who have problems with the election and the people who have a problem with the vaccine.
		There's likely to be a very large overlap.
		However, it isn't the largest reticent group in the United States demographically.
		It's African-Americans followed by Hispanics, who, which Asians seem to be the most likely to go get the, you know, among educated, the largest PhDs.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's interesting.
		Strange.
		I ultimately think there's a bit a lot of people because I always say talk to your doctor and then I get the typical response from people is like doctor my doctor doesn't know anything or otherwise and I'm like you have a bad doctor you know I mean like man I've been prescribed stuff in the past I don't even know what it is you know what when you when I got like I injured my knee they gave me some kind of steroid you get for like a tendon inflammation and damage or whatever I'm like I don't I don't know what this is.
		Thanks doc, patch me up and send me on my way.
		Doctor hands me a bunch of things, like here you go, take this stuff.
		I don't know, prednisolone or something?
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Prednisone, corticosteroid.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so I had damaged the, what is it, meniscus?
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Meniscus.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Meniscus at the knee?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I fell from like a seven foot quarter pipe to the deck.
		What were you trying to do?
		I was just cruising.
		I was trying to do a rock and roll just cruising around.
		I hung up.
		It happens, you know, when the front wheels hit it.
		And I go to the doctor and he's like, here you go.
		And he literally pulled out a bunch of these little packets and he's like, you're good.
		That's enough.
		And he was like, he gave me the prescription.
		He gave me the regimen or whatever.
		And I'm like, I don't know what it is.
		I'm going to take it.
		If you don't trust your doctor, you need to find a doctor you trust.
		And the crazy thing about it is, yeah, people can be political.
		You might go to a doctor and he's got like a Biden flag and he's waving it in front of you.
		Then go find a guy who's got the Trump flag and ask him, oh, he's a doctor.
		I don't know.
		Find a doctor you trust.
		But yeah, you're right.
		I think this weird thing happened with, it's very tribalist where there's a big overlap between people who don't trust the establishment and also are skeptical of vaccines.
		But isn't it interesting how it switched with the election?
		So this is fascinating.
		The polling data shows that Democrats felt the economy was bad, but right when Joe Biden got elected, they felt the economy was good.
		Like, come on!
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		And of course we had Kamala Harris and other Democrats were throwing shade on the vaccine before the election.
		And then when Joe Biden's election, oh, the vaccine's fine.
		Everybody has to get it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a weird... It's very weird.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a weird flip.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I can understand, you know, people... Here's the only thing I can understand is I went and talked to my doctor and my doctor said X. Like, right on.
		That's all.
		Other than that, basing your view of your health off of political tribalism I think is really a bad idea.
		Like, yo, go for a walk, man.
		Turn Twitter off and get away from this.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Can we rub that a little bit to the election and sort of the controversy about the election?
		What we're saying with the vaccine flip, where we saw we saw people, you know, Kamala Harris telling people like, you know, I wouldn't trust a vaccine from Trump, et cetera.
		You know, I think, you know, when we see the controversy in the election, of course, we had Mike Lindell's cyber symposium, all this stuff going on.
		It's still lingering.
		The aftermath of it and people still distrust the elections.
		Well, the thing that I find very interesting is and is that a lot of the objections of people right now who have problems with the 2020 election you if you go back.
		And look at Nancy Pelosi.
		You look at all the Democrats running up to the 2020 election.
		They were nervous about the voting machine companies.
		They were nervous about, you know, we had Kill Chain with HBO.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the documentary.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Harry Hirsty and all that.
		You know, they were, you know, throwing... I mean, you go back early, like 2020, you know, on the House floor, they were debating all of these problems with our elections.
		And the lack of security in the voting machines and so forth.
		And, you know, the thing I find interesting is that I would just, you know, one of the things that I found just went viral during this whole period of like in November and December is I would just find clips of Democrats or just TV shows talking about how terrible our election security was.
		And what really kind of opened my eyes is when Syza came out, said it was the most secure election in history.
		And I knew that they could not have known that.
		And they just had no time to it.
		They had no time to investigate.
		So it looked like a PR release.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So that really... How did you investigate the previous election?
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		That was a big red flag for me.
		It's like, oh, size is saying it's already secure.
		And they could not have investigated it that quickly.
		And I'm not backing all of the conspiracy theories and stuff that float out there that proved to be false, like the German server thing that was just a stupid rumor.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or now the China hacking thing.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, all of that stuff.
		I've never... I mean, look, I've looked into it.
		I mean, if there was something smoking gun there, I definitely would bring it to people's attention.
		I don't see the smoking guns.
		The closest thing that I've seen to a smoking gun is just the Fulton County video with the looks like some shady activity going there.
		Which one?
		The Fulton County video at State Farm Arena.
		They took people out.
		It looks like the election workers were doing ballots multiple times.
		It looks that way.
		But that's the closest thing to a smoking gun.
		That's all I was trying to say.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I see those things and I'm like, that's an anomaly.
		We should investigate.
		But you can't say what it is.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		But it's just one video they screwed up because it was the State Farm Arena video.
		They didn't know that it was on surveillance and that was subpoenaed.
		There were multiple places that were shut down after hours.
		And then you had to have spikes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did they find those people actually did scan bales multiple times?
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		They they just found double counting.
		They never really went after them.
		And like Kemp and Raffensperger or whatever never went after them.
		I mean, they complained about it on social media.
		Raffensperger's like, oh, these these people are negligent.
		You know, they're reckless in their duty.
		And, you know, we've had enough.
		Nobody was charged.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, so I think one of the issues is with with an election involving what was it like one hundred and seventy million people or whatever?
		Yeah.
		You got one hundred seventy million people.
		There's going to be instances like that.
		And you can't take one morsel and extrapolate it to a large, widespread claim or whatever.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		True, but you're going down to these swing states.
		And for me, the most substantial complaint about it was that the rules about the absentee balance and everything was changed extraordinarily and extra-judiciously.
		Or extra-legally, let's put it that way.
		Emergency powers were invoked in these different states in Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And actually across the board.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Even in states Trump won, the rules were changed.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		There were executive orders issued in some states.
		Others did pass it through the legislature.
		But I'm citing the ones that were brought forth in the Texas lawsuit that was just dismissed out of hand for lack of standing, even though they gave an indication that it wouldn't have held up anyway.
		A hint that they were not partial to it.
		So I'm just saying a lot of these lawsuits were dismissed on lack of standing.
		It wasn't really investigated.
		And that's really something that's been driving me is really to, I wonder about the role of private voting machine companies as this sort of opaque intermediary where they own the source code and the intellectual property.
		They don't have to give you the passwords, apparently, as we see in Arizona.
		They don't have to give them access.
		So if they are tabulating our results, who is holding them accountable and how?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's the real issue.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		It's very odd to me that the left Doesn't seem to care about this corporate for-profit entity sitting in the middle of our democratic elections.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		With proprietary source code.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		With proprietary.
		I mean, there's people who have suggested open source code elections, which could be a solution.
		Don't get me wrong.
		But I'm just saying, like, these for-profit entities and like Facebook funding these drop boxes in majority blue districts, according to analyses.
		This is a sort of unusual corporate Intrusion into our democratic process that would normally be raising alarm bells on the left.
		And before Trump lost, they were raising red flags.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then they just stopped because... And I think, you know, right now I'm in favor of it.
		I say, do the investigation, do the audit.
		Let's see what they can produce at the symposium.
		Fine, whatever.
		I don't think so.
		Here's what I think.
		The real problem is that Time magazine article.
		The shadow campaign to save the election.
		It was the Republicans in Pennsylvania Drafting the legislation, passing the legislation for universal mail-in voting.
		Things that change the rules dramatically.
		What ends up happening now is the most fervent supporters of Donald Trump, who would be the champions on the front lines of fighting for voter integrity, are being distracted by conjecture, anomalies, Conspiracy, things that are very, very difficult, if not, in many ways, impossible to prove.
		And if all that energy from Mike Lindell was a voter integrity symposium, and he said, and they went up on stage and said, in Pennsylvania, the Constitution says absentee ballots function this way, and they passed this.
		That's not about, that's not, that's about persuasion, and that would dramatically alter and fortify the system, literally fortify the system.
		Instead, they're making claims that China, you know, working with deep states and NASA, and then today you get this report from the Washington Times, not a leftist publication by the way, conservative Christian, that one of the security guys that Mike Lindell hired said the data he had was a turd and he was tasked with turning that turd into a diamond and the information does not substantiate claims about China hacking the election.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And what I'm seeing on the right to kind of just try to promote some healthy criticism on that side of the of the conversations, what just what you said, you should put this energy into voter integrity laws.
		You should put it into trying to get your legislature to hold voting machine companies more accountable and to open up transparency in those regards.
		Those are responsible, intelligent political processes that we can work together and possibly even persuade independence.
		But instead, paranoia is stultifying.
		It's self-defeating.
		It's debilitating.
		But some people are just addicted to it.
		They want to grab onto paranoia because it feels like their country is falling apart.
		Their worldview is being threatened in ways...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, the country, I think, is falling apart.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Oh, absolutely.
		Our constitutional rights are definitely being eroded on almost a weekly basis.
		It's almost, it's startling.
		I mean, we had president Biden with his eviction decree, violating the third amendment.
		You're very skilled.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Somehow Biden managed to violate the third amendment?
unidentified		How does he do that?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Wow, okay, congrats.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		You get in the history book for that reason.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's incredible.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		But just to go to your point, we definitely need to really concentrate, keep your eye on the ball.
		I'm not trying to take anything away from Mike Lindell.
		He believes in what he's doing.
		He's being sued, he's under fire by Dominion.
		He obviously is a true believer in what he's doing, and I give him credit for... I disagree.
		Well, it seems to me that he's very fervent about his cause at the very least.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He tried to get the lawsuit dismissed.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know, and then it said that the First Amendment is not an umbrella protection for it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He had initially said that he was happy to hear he was being sued because it would allow him to get to discovery, to pull the evidence faster.
		Also, it would have given him a venue to prove, with a judge overseeing it, that his evidence was true and correct.
		If he had the evidence to prove, why would he get the suit dismissed?
		He'd be like, oh great, I can now show it to a judge, and the judge is going to be like, Wow, he was telling the truth.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Maybe the dollar signs were daunting, who knows, because it's like 1.3 billion dollars it's in.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		But it seems to be their strategy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But the truth is an affirmative defense.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		They're trying to scare people, you're right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look, if I said the sky is blue and someone sued me for defamation, I'd be like, I would love to come in and tell the judge, look at the sky.
		Like, waste your money, by all means.
		I don't even gotta do anything.
		Instead, he said he was very happy, but then filed a motion to dismiss, which would obstruct discovery.
		At the very least, he could have had discovery.
		That, to me, saying one thing and doing another, mean, look, the guy makes great pillows.
		I genuinely think they're good pillows.
		I got the slippers, I got the towels.
		It's because of Jack Posobiec, to be honest.
		Like, he's like, you know, his tweets, I'm just like, I'm on Twitter and I'm like, towels.
		And I was like, we literally, we did need towels.
		We need guest towels.
		And I'm like, and I see this tweet one day and I'm like, I was supposed to get towels last week and I didn't, so I bought them.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		You put the code in, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what, I'll throw it to Steven Crowder.
		Crowder said when he was doing his investigative work that he thinks someone gave Lindell bad information.
		And I wonder if what happened was initially Lindell was a true believer, and then he started to be like, wait a minute, maybe this isn't as sound as I thought, so I gotta dismiss this lawsuit.
		I don't know though.
		I mean, why would he do the symposium?
		I just, look, I think you were, you said it, you know, people like the paranoia.
		It gives them a mission.
		I wish all of these people, there was like 190,000 people watching the symposium or something like that.
		Imagine if all of those people were watching a symposium on voter integrity.
		Because you look what's happening now in Texas, right?
		They pass all these emergency provisions to make it ridiculously easy to vote.
		Okay, it should be easy to vote within reason, but not at the cost of security.
		You know, you give up security, you weaken your elections, you can't get them back.
		Instead, what's happening now is they served the arrest warrants for the Democrats because they fled the state.
		They're saying, we did it, we passed the bill, yay!
		The Republicans are acting like they won when they actually lost because their bill is a compromise.
		The reform bills we're seeing from Republicans don't completely reverse, in many states, the pandemic provisions.
		It curtails them only a little bit.
		We saw this in Georgia, I think, when they were like, this voter suppression bill, and it was like, it actually still expands.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		You can just put your driver's license number and send it in.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And that's new!
		It wasn't that way before the pandemic.
		So the Republicans are acting like they're fighting back, but they're actually going like, come in the back door.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And meanwhile, the people who should be standing up and screaming are distracted because someone's waving hash codes about China or something.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		And it's really odd.
		And if there is some mastermind presiding over this, I have to give him some credit because the Georgia Lot voter voter laws that you're talking about are weaker in some regards than like Delaware and Rhode Island and these other blue states.
		And yet when Major League Baseball pulls their all star game out of the Atlanta area, everybody in, you know, the airlines issue these statements.
		Everybody goes, well, they assume that it must have been a really legit Voter law that scared the left.
		It scared the Democrats, and so they had to do these extreme measures.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So they moved to states that have war.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
		And then they moved it to Colorado.
		And then it's just kind of like we assume, you know, and the sort of critics, sort of the voter law, the pandemic voter law critics, put it that way, sort of assume that this is a good law and it has merit.
		No, it's not necessarily the case.
		There's still a lot of loopholes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Go into what you said.
		Let's talk about freedom, man.
		You see this thing with Arnold.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Screw your freedom!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I shouldn't do that impersonation.
		Arnold says, screw your freedom.
		Do vaccine-hesitant Americans.
		And that was it.
		He was on CNN for some reason with Vindman, Army Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman, for some reason.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		The whistleblower, as he admits.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The general idea, I guess, from Mr. Arnold, the governator, is that with freedom comes responsibility.
		And that in a pandemic, people should be responsible and recognize their responsibility.
		You know what?
		He's not wrong, he's just a dick.
		Don't screw your freedom.
		Freedom is one of the most important things.
		Protecting the individual protects the system as a whole.
		Decentralized systems work better.
		That's why America's been so bountiful and successful and wealthy.
		And that's why the Soviet Union no longer exists.
		So no, don't screw your freedom, protect the freedom, and also recognize your responsibilities, but do it better.
		In this instance, I think the issue is we're facing one of the most difficult challenges, and it's the threat of a pandemic from the authorities to try and gain, I don't know, somewhat ancillary political powers.
		They're gaining so much by exploiting this crisis.
		So the risk is, You know, during World War II, we had an Office of Censorship.
		Loose lips sink ships.
		That's crazy.
		You know, we hate censorship.
		But what would you do during World War II?
		You never know.
		If someone's listening, you might have some information.
		Information wasn't traveling as fast.
		So we do recognize our responsibility.
		But I don't know.
		What are your thoughts on this celebrity stuff?
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Well, like I said to Arnold, I don't think he fundamentally understands what the issue here is, or he's misrepresenting it.
		It's not about freedom.
		You should always have the right to decide what goes into your body.
		Whether whether a government authority figure says so or not, it's my body, my choice.
		And that goes back to the point that I was suggesting is the vaccine is ultimately
		works to prevent you from getting severe symptoms of it.
		And Dr. Rochelle Walensky drew this out essentially a week and a half ago.
		So it's there in black and white for anybody to go read what she said herself.
		But the point the point remains that it is a decision to limit the risk of the
		virus that it poses to me individually.
		And so it's it's each person's life to live on their own.
		And we should respect each person's autonomy.
		It's not like people are going to be spreading the disease if they're asymptomatic and they haven't gotten the vaccine.
		That is really such a far extreme outlier case that we are really trying to put some totalitarian system in place to prevent extreme outliers.
		It seems to be like what we're doing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did they flip on asymptomatic spread?
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		It's very low, like it was something like 19-30% of the spread is pre-symptomatic and then I think asymptomatic was lower than that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is why I can't stand the celebrities.
		This is one of the most damaging things you could do if you were actively trying to get people to get the vaccine.
		The best thing you could do to protect individuals, to make sure we reduce the amount of adverse events that we see in VAERS, is to tell people, I trust you to make the right decision.
		I trust you to talk to someone you trust.
		You've got to give, you know what I mean?
		When you come out and you bash someone over the head figuratively, like, do as I say, or else they say, I don't trust you.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		When you say screw your freedom, you're like... You're turning it into a political paradigm at that point.
		What you need to be doing is, if I was going to trust somebody who took the vaccine, and look, I decided to take the vaccine because I crunched the data.
		I said states that have higher vaccination rates, it looks like they have less percentage of people who are getting severe symptoms.
		It seems like it's working, so that persuaded me.
		Like, I just did my own data analysis and ran the comparative research and I found that, okay, it holds up.
		It washes.
		So you look people in the eye and people who are hesitant or afraid to use the vaccine and I'm not telling anybody to use it or not use it.
		Don't get me wrong.
		But I would say you appeal to you like, you know, I don't want to see people get extremely sick with this virus.
		I don't want to see your children lose a loved one over this.
		And so if you're at risk, you should talk to your doctor about getting this because it could really save your life potentially.
		If they would just leave it with that kind of Sincere pitch, then it would be more persuasive to people, but when you interject the politics in there and the mandates, and where we already have, what's the fully vaccinated rate is 60% plus, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In the US?
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think it's over 60.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, I think it's 50.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		50.2 or something?
		60% of adults, I believe.
		Okay, more or less.
		60% of adults, I believe, the last time I checked the data.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Australia was at 18.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Two years ago.
		Yeah, yeah.
		And so I just believe that, you know, it does help for adults who are especially over 40.
		98.4% or so of the mortality is over 40 years old.
		So I think that the statistics bear out that you should get it.
		You should consider getting it at that rate.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The issue is freedom.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		But they're not, yeah, but they turn into a freedom versus authority thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is why the Arnold thing is such a problem.
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because we're talking about vaccine passports.
		We're talking about, you know, Libby Emmons, who was on the show recently, she tweeted that she doesn't believe children should have to wear masks, but her child will be wearing a mask because there's no options in New York City.
		And I'm just like, leave New York City?
		You know, like, Don't make your kid go... If you think it's wrong for your child, you make the choice.
		It's about freedom.
		So when he's saying screw your freedom...
		I don't feel like he's actually talking about the vaccine, to be honest.
		I think he's talking about the expansion of the surveillance state, the expansion of people demanding you show your papers, things I do not agree with.
		I think there's a mix between individual responsibility and responsibility to the greater community, and we have to find a balance, and it's not in authoritarianism, making everybody adhere to a strict authority.
		Now, people have to have some level of autonomy.
		That's why I was saying, like, the Soviet Union, they lasted, what, 69 years?
		Fell apart?
		The United States, a couple hundred years, and the wealthiest, most powerful country, and all that good stuff?
		It's because of decentralization.
		It's because of liberty.
		It's because people can challenge the status quo.
		We're losing that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think there are times when you want to install authoritarian, you know, activity to preserve a nation, which we did with the polio vaccine, I think, or with the smallpox we brought up earlier.
		Smallpox, however, does not exist in the animal population other than humans that we knew of.
		So that was why we were able to vaccinate and wipe it out.
		So it was an effective use of an authoritarian vaccine.
		This virus seems to exist in the animal population, meaning that you can't destroy it with a vaccine, because it's going to be on all the animals that aren't vaccinated at all times.
		Mutations can occur in animals, I guess.
		It seems more similar to a flu, which is difficult to... We haven't figured out how to eradicate flu yet.
		So I don't see an author... It just doesn't make sense to authoritatively do that.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		It'll be booster shots forever.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the third shot came out today.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		For immunocompromised.
		But you know what?
		Okay, good.
		All right.
		So but the issue should be on the policy front, it should be get your yearly COVID shot, but not mandate, not lock everything down.
		I don't I don't have an issue with yearly flu shots.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		It should be.
		It should be like the flu shot.
		And what we're seeing with the Delta variant is sort of the normal course of pandemics that we've seen from 1968 and
		1919, where you have this deadly wave, and then it gets the mutates into a more contagious but less deadly variant.
		So it's very sort of a natural flow of it.
		That's kind of hidden with the obsession about cases right now.
		But if you look at the mortality rates and hospitalization, legitimate hospitalizations, it kind of bears it out.
		And what I mean by that is like they don't go into a hospital for a routine Check up or something and they happen to test for COVID.
		That doesn't necessarily mean they went there for COVID.
		So this very opaque data is difficult and they've made mistakes with it lately.
		But the point is that it does seem to strike me the risk breakdown is like it should be like a flu shot.
		The doctor says, I recommend that you get it because you're obese or you have Some sort of health factors and you're in the age group.
		But mandating that children get it, I don't see the science there at this point.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I just don't really think the mandates in general.
		Yeah.
		Because the problem arises when, like that venue I mentioned where the woman couldn't go to a show because her doctor recommended against it.
		Are we really going this route where it's like, in New York City you're not going to be able to go to a bar because they're like, well then you've got to get a negative test.
		So we're going to put a financial pressure I assume that I heard they're not doing the free tests anymore, I guess.
		So now what?
		Every three days you got to go to a clinic because you have an underlying medical condition?
		It's like, it's like throw the ADA out the window, man.
		I'm not okay with that.
		I think we have to respect individual autonomy and.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Well, one thing that we could say right now about the progressive left is they haven't been hiding who they are for since Woodrow Wilson.
		Uh, they have, you know, you, you brought, he brought up like the alien sedition act or the alien, uh, yeah, the alien sedition act again, part two.
		That basically made it against the government to criticize it during wartime, etc.
		They have wanted a technocratic, managed society since that period.
		And what the Information Aid has done since 1990 is given them the tools to do it.
		And since everything is a means to an end for these people, and you could read it in Saul Alinsky or Reveille for Radicals or whatever, everything is a means to an end.
		So they will weaponize the DOJ.
		They will weaponize the CDC.
		They will weaponize every tool at their disposal.
		There is no moral Barrier that was in the place when the constitution was written for them.
		They don't even see those barriers.
		They see the utopian end line as a perfectly little managed anthill where they basically just direct people to go in a place and it's all harmonious and everybody has their little food in their little house and their little transport and it's not polluting the environment etc etc and that's what they see and I You know, that's where you get, like, very intelligent people support these sort of causes.
		They don't see it as authoritarian.
		They just see it as proper management of society.
		And so for us, you know, I'm not going to speak for you, but I mean, from my personal perspective, respecting the Constitution and individual rights and wanting people to have their life protected because they're given this gift, they have this agency, they have this Wonderful chance to just experience life with all the freedom and opportunity and control that they have over their own lives.
		This is if this is taken away.
		Then humanity, as we know it, is lost.
		It's not... For me, humanity sort of ceases to exist.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it'll be the Borg.
		You know what?
		It goes back to colleges.
		When I was a kid, and everyone kept demanding I go to college.
		You gotta go to college to get that degree.
		I was like, I can't afford to go to college.
		Get loans!
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Why?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What am I going to do in college?
		You know, I was lucky.
		Because I was told when I was in grade school, trust me, grade school is stupid.
		Once you go to high school, it's so much better.
		They have these different programs and you can choose some of your classes.
		And I was like, oh, okay.
		And then I went to high school and it was the exact same trash.
		And so I said, I'm out.
		Now, when they came to me and said, college is different, trust me, I say, I'm not going to believe you this time.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It was different though.
		No, it wasn't.
		You don't have to go to class.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I went to a community school.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		I'm with Ian on that one.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, sure, I guess truancy laws don't exist when you're paying the bill, but I went to a community college for a couple months.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Me too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I was like, this is a waste of my time.
		Complete waste.
		It's the same garbage.
		Here's what ends up happening.
		You get these young people.
		They haven't had jobs ever.
		They're 22 years old, 24 years old.
		They've never had a job and they're graduating college.
		They have massive debt.
		They can't pay off.
		Now they're trying to enter a labor market with no discernible skills other than a college degree, so they're getting entry-level trash positions where they struggle to pay off their college debt, and then they eventually say, someone paid this for me, the government should pay it for me, it's not my fault, and where's the authority figure to tell me what to do?
		Because throughout the entire lives in the institutionalized learning facilities, there was always an authority telling them what to do.
		And now here they are once again saying, someone should be telling you what to do.
		I shouldn't have to deal with this or pay for it.
		Instead, I think people should get jobs, you know, when they're younger, real ones, but a lot of these kids didn't do it.
		I can't tell you how many people I know left as activists, told me their life story was like, you know, I went to grade school, then high school, then college, and I graduated college and here I am as an activist.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I highly, if you're a parent, I highly advise you to make your kid get a job when they're 12.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Just something local.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Lawn mowing, paper delivery, snow shoveling.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Well, for me, I waited to go to college and I worked for like five years doing menial jobs and stuff that kind of sucked, to be honest with you.
		You know, it was tough.
		I was in southern Iowa and I, I mean, basically I went to college as a way not to go to work a sucky job because my grandpa was like, well, you don't want to work in office, you got to go to college or whatever.
		So, and I got it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's not true.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Well, and well, I found that out because when I got my four year degree, I mean, I triple majored in, you know, poli sci, Russian stuff.
		You know, I found that like, I tried to get a job right after four year college, and it was like almost impossible.
		There was a flood of four year graduates.
unidentified		Yep.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		And I was just like, well, I have to go to graduate school then to really show that I'm not a BS-er.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		And then I know how to do research, and I know my stuff, so I'm gonna have to go to a two-year graduate program.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Is it B.S.
		or the Bachelor of Science?
		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I found that, you know, in the past ten years, my experience has been, college degrees have been detrimental in the hiring process.
		So one of the stories I've told is about my friend who was running a mid-level, it was a small business, but he did like medium chain businesses, restaurants for digital marketing.
		And he kept hiring college grads because he assumed the degree meant something.
		They couldn't do the work.
		They constantly called with problems and complaints like, hey, the client did this.
		What do I do?
		And he's like, I hired you to do the job.
		Figure it out.
		I'm not here to do the job for you.
		And then eventually he fires them.
		He hires more people.
		They have the same problem.
		He fires them.
		Now he's running out of money.
		So he's like, he goes on Craigslist and he finds a couple of people who are like, I moved to LA to be actors.
		And he was like, I can only afford to pay you, you know, X per hour.
		And they were like, sounds good to us.
		So we got him for cheaper.
		Never called him with a problem.
		And so he told me the story where he's like, I went out, I was doing a meeting with new clients, and then I don't get any, I don't hear anything from him.
		I'm kind of worried, because I know there's always problems with clients.
		They're not calling me.
		I go back to the office.
		Anything happened today?
		Like, no, all good, boss.
		No problems with clients?
		Oh yeah, one of the clients posted something dumb, but we took care of it.
		And then he said he realized the kids who defied the establishment, when they said go to college and get a degree, When they said, I'll do whatever you say, these are the people who couldn't solve the problem on their own.
		But the kids who dropped out and said, I'm gonna go find my own path, were the people more likely to solve the problem on their own.
		So this is a story that I've heard throughout my life, and I'm fortunate enough to have the internet, and to have friends, and to really thought this through, to think this through.
		I remember reading about, just doing the basic math.
		You're 18 years old, you started a fast food restaurant.
		You work for 4 years.
		After 4 years, you're probably making a little bit more money, you've probably saved a little bit of money, and you might even be an assistant manager.
		You spend 4 years in college, you're now negative 40 grand.
		You have no work experience, and you're hoping that these businesses will hire you based on your degree, but you're probably going to get a grunt entry-level position.
		Meanwhile, your buddy, who's the same age as you, is a manager making, at the time, $30,000 or $40,000 a year, and you're making $10 an hour.
		So I knew this one kid.
		He told me that he went to a web dev firm because he was a web developer.
		Self-taught.
		He was a kid, and he was just learning to do web dev stuff.
		He got hired for, I think they were paying him like $27,000 a year.
		This was 15 years ago, whatever.
		And he said what they told him was everybody who came in with a degree had high salary expectations because they had to pay off their debt.
		And they said, we don't have enough to pay you $40,000.
		And then, so all of a sudden this kid comes along who's 18 and they're like, do you have the skills to do all these different things?
		He's like, oh yeah.
		And he shows them his portfolio and they're like, perfect.
		How's $27,000?
		And he laughed, he was like, 27?
		Whoa, that's so much money.
		And he said his boss told him straight up, we couldn't afford to hire at the expectation
		these college grads wanted, so we thought we weren't gonna be able to hire anybody
		and grow the business.
		And then you came along, we were able to afford you because we'd have that premium on college degrees.
		So I always tell people, the most important thing right now,
		especially with the influence, the attention economy, social media influencers,
		you gotta learn yourself to solve problems.
		I think college is quicksand.
		It is, it is, it is, they're throwing you off.
		Misery loves company.
		Hey, I went to college, you should go to college too.
		Now you're finding out that a lot of these businesses say, college degree or, you know, equivalent experience.
		If you got a portfolio and it's really, really good, they'll hire you.
	If you show up and you're like, you know, I once interned at a company and I have a degree, they're gonna be like, if you can't show me the work, I don't care.
	So don't waste your time.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		If you're an actor, I went to school for acting, and in the modern economy, you're better off making a YouTube channel and getting 600,000 subscribers in the four years after high school than going to acting school, if you want to become a famous actor after that.
		Because they're gonna hire you if you have a million followers.
		They're gonna put you in a commercial, you're gonna be making six figures per job.
		But if you go to college, then you get to be 15 years that you're like, oh, I got to start a social media account when you're in your 30s.
		And you're like, I've seen so many people.
		They're just now starting.
		They're just now starting their social media presences.
		My friends with actors in L.A.
		It's just sad.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, I mean, I went to art school for a couple of weeks, I don't know, a month, and I dropped out.
		I was like, whoa.
		They want to charge me $18,000.
		I mean, if I'm Picasso, it's going to be obvious to people.
		I don't need to do still lifes, you know, to kind of build myself up.
		Either I have a passion for it and I can do it on my own or I can't.
		That changed.
		I mean, I wound up going to a community college because it was much more cost effective.
		But then I found out I was good at academics, psychology, etc.
		And so I kept pushing and pushing.
		It's kind of a trap because, you know, I tried to go to college to sort of escape the poverty and the kind of realities of workaday life, and it was just such a contrast that I could go to school and, you know, be around other young people and just having fun and learning things, which I love to do.
		I just kept on felting like I had to keep going to separate myself from others.
		My first job I was hired at a little liberal arts college in Bard.
		There's a funny story about this.
		Very briefly, I was hired as an international program manager for about $37,000 in New York,
		which is not much for that state.
		Scrapped by for about, did some interesting things for about six months, but then I was
		sort of let go because she figured out I was not a raging leftist.
		This was a manager who is well connected with George Soros, and I was sort of the liaison between this Bard College and St.
		Petersburg in Russia, Smolny Institute or whatever, and I would speak Russian, and so I was kind of the liaison here.
		It's funny that Putin sort of figured out that this small liberal arts college was Soros-funded and Soros-connected and basically had cut off all ties to them.
		So right when I left this job at Bard College years ago, I went to pursue my PhD at SUNY Albany.
		All of them Marxists.
		Sated Maoists.
		Marxist-Leninists.
		You know, a little bit of Fabian Socialists thrown in, but not much.
		And I studied Marxism, but really...
		The whole process for me is a little bit... The only value I got out of it was just realizing they're full of S. That was the only thing because I kept going because I'm like, God, surely these guys have 150, 160 IQs.
		They have some knowledge and wisdom to impart with me.
		No, that's not what they were doing.
		They were really just grooming people to be a part of an activist, radical movement.
		They weren't really looking for truth.
		They were looking to change the world in their own image, in their own perception, and they wanted to recruit foot soldiers into it and kind of, you know, kind of regressing, you know, progressing through the ranks.
		Oh, you can make colonel.
		you can make general, you know, if you're a tenured doctor or whatever in this sort of,
		you know, weaponized college environment. So I when I left, I went to independent media,
		independent journal review, got in at the ground floor, one of the first few people hired and it
		took off. But the value I got out of it was just I know their agenda on the inside. Like I had to
		read stacks of social science gobbledygook that would just make, you know, a normal person's,
		you know, mind melt because it's just like it's really a brainwashing program.
		And and so when I talk to a superintendent at, you know, a local school district or whatever who has a Ph.D.
		or whatever, like, you know, at least I can kind of understand what's behind the superficial sort of CRT program.
		And like, You know, oh, I mean, it's kind of like a can't BS a BSer.
		Like, I already know where you're coming at with this.
		I know what your objectives are.
		It's to make kids more woke.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you see that Rumble announced they basically signed a bunch of people to produce content?
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Oh, good.
		I've been using Rumble for a while since YouTube.
		YouTube actually gave me a strike.
		The only strike I had on my account was for showing Donald Trump at a public appearance.
		I just posted the video of Donald Trump talking, no commentary, no nothing.
		Apparently he must have mentioned the verboten election word, you know, and that was it.
		They gave me a strike for that.
		And then that's just like woke me up.
		So like, I can't even just objectively do any kind of journalism or anything.
		And they'll just say me if they don't like it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What's fascinating is the criticism that establishment journalists are throwing at this eclectic group.
		I mean, you've got Siraj Hashmi.
		He's not a hardcore right-winger, by any means.
		You've got Tulsi Gabbard.
		I know.
		She's rather progressive, actually.
		And Glenn Greenwald.
		And it's funny when I see this criticism.
		Boy, do they really hate.
		They're so jealous.
		They're working for skinsuit companies.
		You know, the New York Times.
		It's got funding because it's got name value.
		It's long-standing and people subscribe to it because it's just got that position, right?
		But we here at TimCast.com go to the website, sign up.
		We are not funded by any millionaires or billionaires.
		It is just the users, the members, and the ad revenue we get.
		There is no surreptitious funding or high-profile investors.
		This freaks them out.
		It's funny to me that they have this attitude on Twitter where they try to say things, they insult me for being a high school dropout and stuff like that.
		And I'm like, yo, I'm proud of that.
		And then they go, it shows.
		I'm like, it certainly does.
		Because you guys don't understand the difference between deontology and utilitarianism.
		And I'm just some dude who reads online and you went to school for that stuff.
		Imagine having an economics degree and not knowing what capitalism is.
unidentified		Can we call you a high school opt-out?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Because you definitely didn't drop in any fashion.
		I did drop out.
		I mean, you elevated when you left that organization.
		Yeah.
		It was dragging you down and you were able to, you didn't drop out.
		You raised up out of it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's funny because, you know, they like to take things out of context and then argue that I'm like dumb or whatever.
		And I'm like, that's fine by me.
		I don't care what you call me.
		I'm like, we're running, we got here a growing company.
		We've got a couple dozen employees at this point.
		We're, I think we'll probably be at like 50 within the next year or so.
		Just getting bigger and bigger and bigger.
		We're talking about how we've got to figure out where we're going to put the new headquarters because we've got to buy another building.
		Oh man, I'm so upset that these people don't think I'm smart when they're not able to find a job and they're struggling with their lives and advocating for insane policies that make no sense and we're over here having a very successful business.
		So I'm not saying that because I'm trying to drag them down or insult them.
		Or I'm trying to justify, you know, my ego to myself or anything.
		I'm trying to point out, don't let these people lead you astray with their bad advice.
		Misery loves company.
		They want you sitting in the cesspool because crabs in a barrel, man.
		They will pull you back in.
		You can find your own way.
		You can be successful if you build it yourself.
		I think the path to success is perseverance.
		It doesn't matter if you go to school.
		It doesn't matter what country you're from.
		If you keep working, you work hard enough, you can succeed.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm on the same page.
		Obviously, I figured that out.
		I mean, I was at Fox News for a while until the election.
		It was a great experience in a lot of ways.
		Insightful to be on the inside of a big cable news show.
		But since I left and went on my own, you know, you can do it.
		You can start your own company.
		It is possible still.
		For now.
		I would knock on wood, but I'm not allowed to bang on the wood.
		I've had a great experience.
		I've syndicated with Trending Politics, which has been a good partner of mine.
		My works get read, and I am really grateful for that.
		You know, now is the time to push like there is the twilight is shrinking.
		So, you know, there may be a couple of years left.
		But, you know, I'm grateful to places like Rumble that are at least giving such a more trustworthy outlet than YouTube.
		I'm not a fan of YouTube.
		And if I do my own podcasting thing, it will be with Rumble.
		YouTube is an afterthought for me.
		And I'm glad I'm glad, you know, Google Alphabet, really.
		Yeah, yeah.
		Right.
		Right.
		Which I never understood why Google was able to buy YouTube, but you know, that's another conversation.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It was the first $1 billion acquisition.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, for me, it's wild.
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		That's a great question.
		Yeah, that's a really good point actually.
		If all its authoritative power couldn't prevent subsequent outbreaks, how much power are we
		prepared to give our government to stop a pandemic that couldn't be stopped by a totalitarian
		system?
		That's a great question.
		Yeah, that's a really good point, actually.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I had a friend that had cancer and she was taking medicine and pharmaceuticals.
		I was like, why don't you try diet?
		And she's like, no, the doctor just told me to take this, take this.
		But she was still feeling kind of ill.
		So make sure you get a good doctor, man.
		let them tell you what to do.
		How long are you just going to go on?
		Are you going to let them cut your arm off?
		And that, like, shocked her up.
		And she went, no.
		And ever since she's had a way more clear head on her shoulders about that, I
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		think people need to realize that medical professionals are people
		just like plumbers are people and carpenters are people.
		And there's such a thing as the bottom of the class, the medical school.
		So make sure you get a good doctor.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Man's right there because they'll build. We are the experiment.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's a giant ongoing experiment that we're all part of.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I have had a lot of really great doctors in my life who have advocated for good diet.
		I've had doctors tell me, like, cut the sugars out, sugars are bad.
		Meanwhile, you get the food pyramid, which is garbage.
		I've had doctors that I feel like have been completely honest.
		So I don't know, whatever, you know, but yeah, I think the point I want to make sure we hit on this one is China welded people's doors shut and they're still dealing with problems right now.
		They're locking down again.
		So it's just like, like how far is too far?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Decide that right now for yourself and remember that if it happens.
unidentified		Yeah.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Harry To says, Mayo is racist.
		End of story.
unidentified		All right.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		If you say so.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Crayson says, Ian, check out a YouTube channel called Voices of the Past.
		They read old journals and first-hand accounts of historical events.
		For example, the Japanese perspective of the first Portuguese traders.
unidentified		Cool!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's really interesting.
		Danimal Cracker says, AMC is still going to the moon.
		Tim, are you still a diamond-handed space ape?
		You guys should look into having Trey Collins on.
		He is the spiritual leader of the apes.
		I am still diamond-handed space ape.
		I have a bunch of AMC.
		I like AMC.
		I like movies.
		Uh, I don't- I've not been following the AMC stuff and the short.
		I'm not- You know, look, by all means, people, do your thing, whatever my attitude is.
		We went and saw- What movie did we go see?
		Black Widow.
		I love going to the movies, man.
		Pretty sure we went to an AMC.
		So I like it.
		It's one of the things that I'm really upset about when they locked everything down.
		It's like, I don't gotta go to a restaurant.
		I can make food.
		I'm happy with that.
		But the movies are fun!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Did you guys ever have friends or work at a movie theater?
		Or have friends that did?
		That let you upstairs?
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Yes!
		Well, my Russian teacher in high school, he had a movie theater and my buddy worked there and we went up there.
		Really one of these small-town movie theaters and ain't nothing like it.
		The feel of it and the musty smell of it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Twimmy says, personally not a fan of this new format.
		I've been a fan since the true show ShimCast began.
		This new Tim guy is a far-right anti-back beanie grifter.
		Bring back ShimCast!
		Down with TimCast!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Seamus is really good at what he does.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		He is, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, we're launching a non-profit, Journalistic Enterprise.
		It's going to be a fact-checking outlet.
		The way it'll work is, I've been talking about this for a while, but we're actually filing the paperwork now and Seamus will be involved too, so I'm really excited.
		It is, uh, we're going to sample a hundred articles within like the past month from every news outlet.
		And then we're going to go through the articles based on the standard journal ethics from like the SPJ or whatever.
		And then if there's any violation, we give the article an X and then we load it up and we say out of the hundred articles reviewed, 63 were rated as, you know, ethical journalism, you know, 37 or whatever.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Outstanding.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		I'll, I'll be sure to keep an eye on that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think you'll see like the Huffington Post get a zero.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I'm not saying it to be mean, I'm saying it's because they're clearly an opinion website, but they don't label their articles as opinions.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Well, the write-up on that Mayo article, I mean, it was something like you would fail if I was a professor at a community college, you would fail for just so many reasons.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So if they're asserting something to be news, but it's opinion, that's an ethical violation.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I do think there's a lot of conservative commentary sites that would also get low scores for that.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		You make sure to keep an eye on Reuters and AP because I feel like they've been... Yeah, Reuters has been... They've really been hurting their credibility lately, and I used to respect them a lot, but I think the last few years Trump broke them, I think, for whatever reason.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Minimizing harm is a journalistic ethic.
		So, CNN, for instance, when they named the warehouse worker who posted the meme, that was a violation of journalistic ethics.
		You don't need to destroy the man's life to tell the story.
		So they maximized harm in that regard.
		We'd give it an X. What we're gonna do is, we'll have a spreadsheet for each outlet, and we'll list all the articles.
		You'll see all the articles, you'll see circles and Xs, and then it'll explain why.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Is it possible to find how many violations per article?
		Like, if one article has six violations, and then they consistently have six violations per article, that's like six times the violation.
		That's way worse than a company that does one violation per article.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		It's not about whether or not their articles are egregiously bad.
		It's about, like, it's a harder standard in this capacity.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Like, are they correct?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's either they are or they're not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is it perfect or is it slightly off?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is it slightly off?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's a fail.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Full X. Full fail.
		And so a lot of these leftist publications that purport to be news, and if they're rated by NewsGuard as a certified truth, we're gonna come out and be like, well, we will use NewsGuard and we will use Wikipedia.
		Specifically, so like The Huffington Post, for instance, is considered by Wikipedia to be a reliable news source.
unidentified		Whoa.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		And NewsGuard considers them a reliable news source.
		For that reason, they will get zeros across the board because every article is an opinion piece.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they don't put opinion on it.
		And so, and we'll say that, so long as establishment institutions rate this source as reliable news, and the institution itself considers itself to be a news outlet, we will not give them a pass.
		As for The Daily Wire, they call themselves conservative commentary and conservative spin the news.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		In that case, we might just say, this is an opinion website, we don't rate ethics and opinion Every single one of my articles has opinion on it because I just feel like there are just so many assumptions I'm arguing against.
		Most of the time I'm arguing with counterfactuals and providing data and evidence, but it's very much framed in the sense that what the mainstream media understanding of this subject is lacking.
		You know, so here's here's some more information about this narrative when we when we run this if your website says
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		this is an opinion analysis website Then it's then we just say this is an opinion analysis
		analysis website We don't we're not here to rate the New York Times for
		instance when they publish news Are they putting in are they injecting?
		So so look a lot of these act a lot of these partisan sites will probably find because they just say they're you know
		Leftist commentary or activist commentary or conservative commentary. So we're gonna be like guys this website
		They may it will probably check them on a factual basis on an opinion basis. That's the right way to do it. Yeah
		So, but, you know, The Huffington Post will get a strike for an opinion piece, because they don't label anything as opinion when they are.
		But if a website says, you know, the leading conservative opinion, and they're publishing fake news, we'll be like, XXXXX, you know.
		We just won't hit them for opinion stuff.
		But that's important too, because a lot of people think when they read, like, framing is big.
		Yeah. Framing, if it's something is falsely framed, that's opinion.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so if it says like, uh, if they include adjectives like Donald Trump
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		disgustingly referred to as a person by this name, that's an opinion.
unidentified		Absolutely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That adjective, that framing device.
		If they say that, you know, Donald Trump took a dangerous move today to do acts.
		That's an opinion.
		Right.
		That we know of.
		Donald Trump did a backflip. That's a fact. I mean he didn't literally do a backflip,
		but if the story is just like Donald Trump boarded Air Force One, he flew to this place
		where he met with this person, did this thing, we say you're good. But if they say Donald Trump
		made a disastrous attempt at meeting with a dictator, that's opinion. Strike. And I think
		people would be surprised how much is opinion. Oh, absolutely.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		I go to the New York Times all the time.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		I can't get through the lead paragraph without an opinion like 80% of the time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so the New York Times might get a score of like 10 out of 100.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		They almost always interject some types of adjectival descriptions that are not factual or empirical.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		It's some sort of value judgment or moral, ethical judgment.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's because it doesn't sell anymore.
		And that's why we want to do this non-profit.
		So that we can be like, here's our summary of the site.
		I'm less concerned about funding.
		Like, NewsGuard wants to know who's funding you.
		I'm less concerned.
		But let's read some more of these superchats.
		Alright, let's see.
		Benji Colmarez says, please watch the video Creators Shouldn't Own Their Own Creations by UniqueNamesaurus.
		He makes an amazing case for ending IP and an alternative to our current payment models.
		It'll blow your mind, Tim.
		Ian, you should probably check that out.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What's it called again?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Creators Shouldn't Own Their Creations.
		Own Their Own Creations.
		All right.
		Unspecial Noob says, I spent an hour last night trying to find ShimCast on Google to become a member and support the channel.
		I'm calling BS.
		It doesn't exist.
		It should be called ShamCast, not ShimCast.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It should have been called ShamCast.
unidentified		True.
unidentified		Boo.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Shame us.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Shame us that they call him ShimShamCoglin.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I can see it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Mike Pierce says, have you heard about Oregon governor signing a bill to remove proficiency exams of reading, writing, and math to graduate high school?
		Also, will you have Robert Barnes on the show?
		He said he's willing to come on.
		We absolutely will have Robert Barnes on the show.
		We just have to book him.
		And so we will get that sorted.
		We will do that.
		And yes, I heard about Oregon, that it's not about meritocracy anymore.
		It's about just put them all in a little box and ship them out.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's part of a patriarchal system, I believe, and it's because of a white system of oppression.
		So I guess if you live in another country and you have to take tests, we're somehow internationally imposing oppression abroad.
		So I think the Japanese students, they still have to do tests.
		In Chinese students, they have to test tests, so I don't... I'm not quite following their argument.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright, let's read this one.
		FC3S says, Ian is right on IP.
		Why does a performer deserve more for their work than your average blue-collar worker?
		If I fix a car, I don't charge every driver for the work that I've done.
		You create one widget, you get paid for one widget.
		That's right.
		If I write one song, Everybody who buys that song has to pay me $5 for it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But if you can make unlimited copies for free, then the supply increases, well, infinitely almost, exponentially at the very least.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So then shouldn't the value, the demand then decrease by that inverse, you know?
unidentified		Why?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's just the nature of economics.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, that's for scarcity.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you've eliminated scarcity from amount of, you know, amount of songs you can copy.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You don't have to forge the CD and send it out anymore.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But it's your property, regardless of whether or not you can make it easily.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The law says so, I'm just pointing out the nature of it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Hey, birdhouses are really easy to make.
		Why don't we just make it so that you have to give them away if you have too many?
		Oh, what's that?
		A surplus of corn?
		You shouldn't be allowed to do what you want with your property.
		You have to give it away.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Birdhouses and corn are like finite resources.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I said when there's a surplus of corn.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But that's still a finite resource.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The digital copies can be done relatively infinitely.
unidentified		I don't think that changes.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's changed the economy.
		That's what the whole argument is, is the piracy movement, whatever you want to call it.
		I think of it more as just a copy, a copy fest.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think we have this argument every so often where Ian thinks piracy is OK in terms of... I just don't think it's... I don't think we should call it piracy.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I've heard that.
		I don't know if it's true that the FBI is using calling it piracy and going after them with international piracy laws.
		And, like, treating them like actual, like, people with weapons on boats that are... Like the Law of the Seas sort of thing?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So my brother made an extremely viral video that probably has a collective multi-billion views.
		And his face isn't in it, nor is his name.
		And it's been ripped off, like, thousands of times probably.
		And that's what's wrong with this.
		Someone taking it, and then re-hosting it, and making money off of someone else's work.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Well, people do that with my content, so, and I have to just approach them and say, hey, stop using my... But that's the same thing?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		JP Sears, some people stole his video, uploaded it to Facebook, and that's how he got famous, and then he became super rich after that, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a good thing his face is a name now.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		See, but that's not most people.
		Most people aren't famous, and a lot of art doesn't include the name of the individual, so stealing their content and then repurposing it, we call it freebooting.
		And it's extremely detrimental to people.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I've been trying to think of a technological solution where, like, you could track where the original came from and then with the payments of the cryptocurrency use smart contracts to automatically divide the payment to the original creator as well as any resalers.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But as the way it looks, I just see the inevitable economic restructure because of the increase in supply.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Padre Mortala says, alright man, what the hell do you want people to do?
		Leave cities, not leave cities?
		Fight back, not fight back?
		You really riled some feathers in the MyPillow video.
		I'll still watch, but warily. I've said it over and over again, leave cities. When have I said,
		don't leave the cities? I said, I respect the people who want to stay and fight back. But man,
		when you're 20% of the vote versus 80% of people who are burning it down, why would you stay there?
		I've repeatedly said, if you're sitting in the living room while the garage is on fire, and
		you're like, I'm not going to leave when the fire comes, don't expect me to come and shed a tear for
		you because you chose to stay in a burning building. So yeah, I think people should get out of cities.
		As for the MyPillow stuff, people should be riled up about all the changes that they did in the voting laws, like in Pennsylvania.
		Instead, the guy from MyPillow is telling them all this grandiose stuff that he's never produced a smoking gun for, just anomalies.
		I admit the anomalies give me pause.
		A lot of them, like the Bellwether counties, I'm like, that's very strange.
		How does that happen?
		We should investigate and do audits, and I'm welcome for that.
		But outside of that, Trying to draw a definitive conclusion from anomalies is impossible.
		So people could be right now saying, we demand audits in these states.
		In the meantime, we're going to work with the Republicans on voter reform.
		Instead, they're at a symposium and now the guy comes out, Mike Lindell's guy, saying the data was not good and he can't prove it anyway.
		And I'm like, you see, You know what's really been bothering me is, for all I know, you know, look, there's some smoking guns somewhere, right?
		But ever since the election, I keep getting told, next week, on Monday, Trump is gonna come out, and then nothing happens.
		I had a bunch of people saying, dude, March 5th, man.
		You wait and see, March 5th?
		And I'm like, uh-huh, sure.
		Nothing happens.
		Then they're like, oh, you know, come July, come August.
		And I'm just like, dude, it's fine.
		Do whatever you want to do when there's a smoking gun, when there's hard evidence, whatever.
		Do the audits, do all that stuff, whatever builds your confidence.
		But fighting back right now, I think you look at everything they did with changing the voter laws and people are distracted and they're not fighting back.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And I think that's very concrete.
		It's very much black and white for me that they did not follow the constitutionally Adopted process for changing the voter laws in the in these states.
		The issue to try to talk to people about what the remedy is in the solution is that they don't trust elections to remedy this.
		The Republican Party has failed them.
		They don't trust them at all.
		In fact, they hate Republicans because they don't stand up for them or they betrayed Donald Trump for that point.
		I mean, they loathe Mike Pence.
		A lot of these people or or Governor Kemp in Georgia.
		Those people are villains to them.
		They feel completely let down by them and they feel like the system is irreparably broken.
		Pardon me.
		What I would point out in this situation, it was essentially a red wave election in these district in-house districts across the United States.
		The House is a very key institution to get in this in this current situation that we're in.
		You have to try to go and get the House.
		You have to try to make Tea Party look like like a day at the picnic in 2010.
		And the Democrats are going to be on the defense.
		I think they all know this in the House races.
		You have to go out and try to make it Happened and I think like there is really literally no way just prognosticating into the future I don't think that there's a way that the Democrats hold on to the house It just in taking the temperature of the country and just all of the districts around the United States It's just just looking at a map of red and blue counties It's it's just not it's just not going to they're not gonna hold on to the house in a fair election It's I don't think it'll happen.
		Well, they're going to anger A lot of parents this fall.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's true, but a year is a long time.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		It is a long time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's that last week, it's that last month, you know what I mean?
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		I don't think this, I think this is going to be a pressure cooker election.
		I think the crock pot is on, the steam is building.
		I don't think it's, they're going to be looking for people to blame for their miserable, for people's miserable lives, which the Democrats are going to keep trying to make us miserable.
		you can bank on that and they're going to want to take it out on somebody in the polling
		booth.
		If they come out and all these people turn out a mess and they vote and somehow the Democrats
		escape leaving the House, there's going to be a real problem.
		We did not see mass rioting after 2020.
		We saw the January 6th incident, but we did not see it at January 20th.
		I mean, what did we see on January 20th when it was predicted that there was going to be a mass uprising?
		We saw a few sad old people with signs at state capitol buildings, but you did not see the SHTF yet.
		I think people are holding out hope that the midterms can give some course corrections, a lot of people, but some people have just left the reservation.
		They are not coming back and they are looking to be more and more angry and anybody that offers them some chimeras to get angry about, they're all for it right now.
		They're going to sit, they're going to Console themselves and they're going to wallow and sort of self-pity to some point when they should be organizing and being active and looking for something substantive to accomplish before the elections, before it's too late.
		Because the state, ultimately, if you want to look at somebody to be mad about for the 2020 election, look at the state legislatures.
		These GOP-run state legislatures completely dropped the ball.
		They failed their constituents.
		They did not scream bloody murder when these absentee ballot rules were changed without their authority.
		They waited until it was way too late to say anything about it.
		They should have jumped on it from the very beginning.
		They did not.
		Now they want to do some kind of You know, some after the fact sort of legislation that doesn't seem to go far enough, as you pointed out, Tim, in some cases.
		And people hold them to the fire.
unidentified		Hold.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're not paying attention because they're distracted by these other.
		side things and look I get it's a very passionate subject and I'm not I'm look I understand a lot of people in my audience they care about the subject I'm I'm not trying to talk down to you or anything you're you're you have a right to be mad you have a right to feel left out let down by the system the election system is broken voter integrity is it is in bad shape in this country We need to look ahead for the sake of our kids and our future, not to fight the last war.
		Fight the war ahead of you.
		Keep your eye on the prize, keep your eyes down range, and focus on the concrete things we could do because you don't let your kids down.
		Do something substantive.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Vote for the real Right.
		candidates not the not the establishment Republican types and then when the new wave of
		Populist right come in you can impeach Joe Biden Right for all the Ukraine stuff and the China stuff
		absolutely launch all the subpoenas and do all the investigations
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		You stay focused man Yeah, and I'm totally on board with that.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		I mean, Biden, like we saw with the rent eviction moratorium, he knows it's unconstitutional.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Supreme Court said it was completely illegal, and he said, I'll do it anyway, I guess.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Broke his oath of office right there.
		If it was Donald Trump, they would be screaming bloody murder in the media.
		So don't.
		Just have a long memory.
		File all these things aboard.
		But in the meantime, make sure the next election has not as much of a shit show as the last one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, The Science Change says, Excellent job on Mayogate.
		Seriously impressed with how you're reporting.
		What can an average Joe do to help America get back on track?
		Raise your kids.
		Homeschool your kids.
		Stand up for what you believe in.
		Make hard choices and do hard things.
		Jordan Peterson says, Find the heaviest thing you can carry and carry it.
		I think that would mean that if you're living in a city where they're introducing things policy-wise that you don't agree with, And it's extremely difficult for you to move.
		That must be the heaviest thing you can carry, and you probably should carry it.
		I think too many people just want comfort, the path of least resistance.
		Man, I love- I love trudging through the storm and the mud.
		I see that- that- that easy path.
		Oh, it's a real easy path for me.
		I don't need to do this job.
		I could stop right now, and I can just skate all day, and- and do whatever.
		I could shut this show down.
		Why should I deal with smears from the media?
		Man, it's brutal out there, huh?
		Constantly getting people sending me awful things and threats and insults.
		Man, who would want to tredge through something like that?
		That's the path of most resistance.
		Well, I like carrying heavy things.
		I like doing the hard work.
		I could just, I don't know, focus on the vlog.
		The vlog will make more than enough to just sustain me for the rest of my life.
		I don't have to worry about anything.
		Build up that and do a Minecraft channel.
		No, I like the challenge.
		And that's why I'm here.
		And that's why I'm grateful to everybody who's supporting that by being members.
		So I think, you know, at the very least, sharing content, whether it be me, or Crowder, or Styx, or anybody that, 6XNAM, or anybody you really like, or checking out, you know, Kyle's website, Becker News, and sharing the things that you think are important, That's really that's an important thing you do.
		I know most of you do it all the time so Do what you can when you can I suppose But I think maybe people need to realize that you have to you have to carry something heavier than you may be carrying Yeah, speak your mind on the Internet.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Make videos because it's humiliating.
		Let people see who you are for real.
		Let them know your fears and what you've done.
		Let go of your secrets and they'll trust you.
		And then when you when you tell them these things, they'll believe you.
		It's more powerful than voting for people.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Agreed.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I would say on a more practical level to frequent small businesses and go to family run operations like that restaurant we talked about earlier.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ben Stark says, have you heard about Tim Dillon and Democrat media calling Yeonmi Park a fraud?
		Thoughts?
		I think they're all liars.
		I don't know about Tim Dillon.
		I don't watch his show.
		But when I show you that the Democrat media are lying to protect Biden because his failed policies, why would I believe them on Yeonmi Park?
		I saw one of the stories, people were like, you go to see this Tim, she's a fraud.
		And then I saw her comment on it, and it was like, a fairly reasonable assessment.
		You know what the funny thing is, man?
		People want to come out and insult her, and say all these things about her, and I read some of the criticisms of her, and I'm like, I think they're just out of context, smearing, falsely framing.
		Because I'll tell you this, anybody who watches this show, who then goes and reads one of the hit pieces on me, is going to laugh at how insane they sound.
		They're like, I can listen to this guy talk for four hours a day, and that does not represent what that show is.
		They're so desperate.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The Mayogate thing.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		5.6% inflation across the board.
unidentified		5.4%.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		5.4%.
		So they assumed that the Mayo went up by 5.4%.
		But the Mayo went up by 100%.
		Not 5.4%.
		But these idiots, these fools, these lazy... So it's false inductive reasoning.
		went up by a hundred percent.
unidentified		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Not 5.4 percent.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But these idiots, these these fools, arrogant, these lazy.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		So it's false inductive.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		It's reasoning.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		That's what it is.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then because they're all a bunch of hooting midwits that
		they're all like someone says it and they'll go, yeah, that's
		high fiving each other and chest bumping.
		And it's like, guys, you're so dumb.
		Did you even call the restaurant?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't like screaming idiot, like, what?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		They don't have to balance the seconds.
unidentified		It's greedy.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The restaurant you call the restaurant when I saw the story I went I googled the website
		I grew the restaurant put the phone called it within a minute a guy says hello, and I'm like hi
		My name is simple. I'm a journalist trying to get a comment on this story about mayonnaise, and he laughed is like oh,
		yeah What do you need?
		I just see that it says here you pay two to two hundred dollars more per week in mayonnaise
		And I was wondering if you could elaborate on how that is oh
		Oh yeah, so we do about 10 buckets per week, it's 5 gallons each.
		They used to cost about $18, now they're about $36, so you know, do the math, it's about 10 more buckets, so it's about $200.
		And I went, sounds about right to me.
		What's your restaurant capacity?
unidentified		$250.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And he says, and we use the mayonnaise for our dressings and stuff and the sauce that we make.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		100% increase in that cost.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Makes sense to me.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Dude.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Complete.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We know that we don't miss.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that is not even like you barely almost hit it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You completely missed it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they double down.
		They completely three different writers.
		And now they're driving a harassment campaign at a small business who said nothing political.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		This is it's not journalism.
		That's the problem.
		I went to school for journalism for a period for like a year.
		You learn about citing sources, about seeking multiple sources, fact checking, looking, getting an editor to go through your stuff afterwards.
		Did you see and then putting your face behind it?
		That's a big part of it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You see what the Daily Beast wrote, where they were like, six months on, Donald Trump, his staffers are urging him to promote the vaccine, but he says, no.
		And it's like, it says, nope.
		And it's got a big Trump mouth.
		And I'm just like, yo, I get so many emails from Trump where he's like, the vaccine is mine.
		It's the greatest vaccine.
		Everyone should get it.
		It's safe.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's like, there's one email.
		I went through my email of all the emails from Trump and it's like, Trump's not getting credit for the vaccine.
		And he's like, they're trying to claim credit for the work I did.
		It's safe.
		Everyone should get it.
		I'm like, how did they write an article claiming Trump won't promote the vaccine when he won't shut up about it?
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		He talks about Operation Warp Speed as the greatest thing since, you know, the, you know, the, uh, the attack on Okinawa in World War II.
		You know, I mean like- They won't give him credit for it.
		Yeah.
		He wants the credit.
		Give me the credit.
		That's Donald Trump's personality.
		I mean, come on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's see what we got here.
		Ramsey Stripling says, some woman tried to come in the restaurant I work at with a regular non-service dog.
		Didn't allow her in and she got all of her friends to write reviews calling us racist and discriminatory.
		Brought overall review down 4.823.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Can we like, okay, Yelp, you companies, Google, that do these at restaurant reviews, can you make it so that they have to have a geolocator go off when they're in the restaurant or something where they got to log in Like the restaurant has something with your website where they gotta log in.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't, it doesn't work.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		To verify that they're eating there.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I mean, this is ridiculous that someone across, down the road can vote.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I knew a restaurant.
		It was a burger joint.
		And they got a call from Yelp and they were like, hey, you know, we see you on the site and we want to reach out to you, say if you want to do any advertising with us.
		And he was like, I'm not interested in that.
		Okay.
		All of a sudden, a bunch of bad reviews started coming in.
		And he, you know, there are some people who allege there's a conspiracy or whatever, but what was happening was bad reviews would come in, and the good reviews weren't coming in.
		And it was because they said, well, the people who are in the restaurant having a bad experience pick it up and go...
		And the people who have a good experience don't say anything, and then later on they might be like, oh yeah, you know, I went to that restaurant, that was cool.
		And then they're like, well, this one is real-time, this one's not.
		The point is, it's not so easy just to geofence.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But isn't the problem here that people across the country are downvoting a restaurant?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That makes no sense.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How do you prove that you've been there and you don't?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Put like a barcode on the receipt that you gotta scan or something before you leave the restroom.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How about you can only review it if you have a current receipt.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I like that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Easy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Kamikaze A says, Australia is tracking population via QR codes.
		We are required to enter our details and phone number to get a verification code to be able to enter any business.
		Anyone looking to adopt a few Aussies?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Come on over.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Man, what do you call it when all of these countries are moving in the exact same direction, you can't travel between them, and, I don't know, global authoritarianism?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Wow.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		International fascism?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		New world order?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You're all right!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		New world order.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Smiley face fascism?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Richard Cranium says, Tim, I work in long-term care.
		Bet you can't guess the party that comes in to do absentee voting.
		I'll give you a hint.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		The Dems.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Napalm Boner Fart says, Hot take!
		Parents should send their kids to the military.
		Best thing to happen to me.
		I turned left to right but mostly learned responsibility.
unidentified		Good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think... I don't think you can do that.
		Like, your kid turns 18, they leave.
		I do think there's like military academies and stuff and schools you can go to.
		And I am...
		Service guarantees citizenship is the easiest way to say it.
		I don't know if a military academy or the military is the way to do it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The Romans tried that.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		No, I mean, if you have a wayward kid, they're not going to find themselves in the military.
		They need to want to do it.
		And if they don't want to do it, it's not going to work out so well for them.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		You are correct.
		My brother really wanted to join the military and my parents didn't want him to.
		But he did, and it was great for him.
		Whereas with my other brother, he didn't really like it.
		He got out as soon as he could.
		It's like 50-50.
		It's whatever you make of it.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, don't go to the military as a way of avoiding work or whatever.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Just work for a while and really think about it, and then if you feel like you need to get orders barked to you and you need to go serve, just be ready for it and go get it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The One-Eyed King says Tim, should Rittenhouse trust truth as an affirmative defense like you said Lindell should with the Dominion suit?
		The Dominion suit is a civil lawsuit where they're alleging he said things that were not the truth and that have caused them financial damages for which they are trying to recover financial damages.
		In the instance of a defamation suit, there's something called an affirmative defense, meaning, I told the truth.
		Case dismissed.
		And all he need do is go to the judge and say, here you are, your honor.
		There's the evidence.
		And that judge will say, case dismissed.
		That's it.
		With cot written out, it's a criminal trial, and you're going to have an adversarial court where the state tries to prove their case, and the defense tries to prove their case.
		But still, I would say, yes, cot written out should rely on the truth to win.
		Granted, you'll need really good lawyers because they're going to use manipulative tactics, but the truth shall set you free.
		My bigger issue, I suppose, is that politics will play a role, and it doesn't matter whether or not he's right or wrong.
		In the instance of Lindell, it's entirely possible the judge would not rule in favor of Lindell no matter what, but if that's the case, then what are you trying to prove?
		If no matter what you do, no one will ever accept it because they're scared socially, you've got a culture problem, and all you're doing is preaching to the choir.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe that's what he's trying to do with the cyber symposium, just to play devil's advocate here.
		He's trying to persuade people and, you know, use the media to spread his message.
		And, you know, maybe he feels like the courts aren't a fair venue for him.
		You know, maybe he personally feels that.
		I'm not, you know, I don't represent his legal team, and I don't know all of the thinking and strategy behind it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But that's definitely historically functional.
		Getting the crowd behind you is a powerful way to bypass the courts.
		The courts will vote for you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Beaumarchais did it in France.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Got out of a civil lawsuit.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Happy says, Do you think there is a place for libertarian-leaning people who are socially liberal in the classical sense?
		For the most part, I'm pretty socially liberal.
		However, I don't like big government.
		Yeah, I agree.
		That's like the usual left libertarian position.
		But I don't know what to tell you, man.
		Our institutions are all completely corporatist.
		What do you do?
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Well, look at look at BlackRock's infiltration of the Biden government, the economic advisors like, you know, Mike Pyle with Kamala Harris, who has also put in neoliberal policies under Obama.
		You know, you look at what WestExec.
		I was shocked, actually, that one of these think tanks that was Um, it was formed, uh, that basically sells itself as this sort of White House, uh, PR crisis management team.
		There's like 23 from this one think tank sort of organization in the Biden White House.
		And then you have a very weak president in this mix who doesn't seem to be running the show.
		It strikes me as very corporatist and very seedy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Ladies and gentlemen, smash that like button if you have not already, and go to TimCast.com, become a member, so you can check out the members podcast, which should be up around 11 or so p.m.
		You can follow the show at TimCast IRL.
		You can follow me personally at TimCast.
		Is there anything you wanted to shout out, Kyle?
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		No, just follow me on Twitter.
		I will likely be doing a podcast in the future.
		If you want to keep an eye out for that, that would be great.
		I just really enjoyed being here with Tim.
		It was a pleasure.
		It was great to see his studio.
		Everything he's got going on here seems to be going in a great direction.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What's your Twitter handle?
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		KyleNateBecker.
unidentified		N.A.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Becker.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for coming, man.
unidentified		That was great.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That was fun, actually.
kyle becker ▲ ● ▼		Thanks a lot, Ian.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You guys can follow me also at iancrossland.net or at iancrossland on social media and you rock.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		You guys can follow me on Twitter at Sour Patch Lids as I continue my adventure trying to get more followers than Sour Patch Kids.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We will see all of you over at timcast.com for the member segment.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for hanging out.

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