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July 1, 2021 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - NYC Mayoral Election IN CHAOS As 135k "Test" Votes Counted w/Ben Stewart
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benjamin stewart
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tim pool
Thanks for watching.
And we have a really big story.
Eric Adams, he's probably going to win the mayoral election in New York.
Well, the results come in and he says, hey, something's not right with these numbers.
There's like 100,000 more numbers now than there were on election night.
And all of these mainstream establishment liberal and leftist journalists are going, oh, here we go.
The pro-cop Eric Adams is Trumpian, and it turns out he was right.
And I guess the city admitted this huge error where 135,000 test votes were still included, and they have to now redo the whole count.
Trump, of course, is coming out puffing his chest, being like, no one will ever know the results.
And well, I think we will.
But it's a really fascinating story.
Not so much that they made this mistake.
I mean, that's really important too, because if it wasn't caught, who knows what would have happened, but how the media reacted to it.
So that'll be fun.
The other crazy thing is this story really tripping me out.
A judge in Ohio has sentenced several men to be vaccinated.
Okay, I get it.
We want everyone to get vaccinated.
I get it.
But for a judge to be like, okay, sir, you've improperly handled a firearm, so we're gonna do two years of probation and vaccination.
It's like...
Shouldn't that be for a doctor to decide, not a judge?
So that's just creepy, weird government stuff.
And just in the same vein, there's a funny story about Joe Biden confusing the Tuskegee airmen with the Tuskegee syphilis experiments.
And he insinuated the heroic airmen were actually the guys with syphilis, which is just like, Joe, what are you doing?
And then, of course, Bill Cosby was just released from prison!
So, we certainly got a lot to talk about tonight.
And, uh, we're hanging out with some good people, so... Actually, why don't you introduce yourself?
You just, you know, instead of me...
benjamin stewart
Yeah, man, I'm Ben Joseph Stewart.
I was on last time talking about The Fourth Turning, and I'm a filmmaker.
I try to talk about stuff that most people aren't talking about, but I try and put an awesome soundtrack and sound design to it and make it more artistic and poetic.
And yeah, man, I got lost this morning and I ended up around D.C., so here I am.
unidentified
Worked perfect.
benjamin stewart
Serendipity just works out.
ian crossland
I'm glad you were guided by the magnetic currents.
tim pool
We got Ian over here.
ian crossland
I had a crazy experiment on mushrooms one time where I was like walking around.
I was lost and I was like, where am I?
You know, I'm in Manhattan Beach.
And then all of a sudden I was right back where I started.
I didn't intend to get back there, but I was guided.
Something guided me.
Or was it coincidence?
benjamin stewart
No, there's no such thing.
It was the mushrooms for sure.
Trust me, I'm not an expert.
ian crossland
Well, I'm Ian Crosland.
I'm also not an expert.
benjamin stewart
Thanks, Ben.
lydia smith
And I'm here in the corner.
I am intrigued by this retallying of the votes in the New York City mayoral race because Eric Adams is an African-American retired cop.
And if this were happening in Georgia, they would be crying racism so hard.
So I'm really curious what happens.
We'll see what happens.
benjamin stewart
It's a lot of numbers.
lydia smith
I know.
tim pool
Before we get started, of course, you always, I always say, go to TimCast.com, become a member.
Oh man.
The alpha version of the site is sitting in my inbox and I have to check it, but we're here doing the show.
So this is big because it means probably in the next few days, maybe next week, the full new version of the site will be up.
It's going to be fantastic.
We, uh, we have already hired, I think, four people this past week.
We've got writers, we've got production, we've got our in-house camera person.
They're, they're moving out here.
It's going to be a blast.
Our Mysteries writer, this is going to be amazing.
This, this, uh, the article we have up so far, you gotta go to the site, you gotta check it out.
But I know, I know, we'll get it formatted better moving forward.
But let me just tell you, we got a bunch of amazing news articles popping up, because we now have, we've brought on an additional reporter.
But also yesterday, we were hanging out with Candace Owens in the members only section, talking about the Mandela effect.
What a silly conspiracy theory.
Time travel.
Oh, how fun.
And Bill Gates talking about population management and controlling the population of the planet, which is a legitimate TED Talk.
We actually went through the fact check and looked at his TED Talk.
You want to check that one out.
A lot of people are watching it.
So that's a members podcast over at TimCast.com.
And we're going to have another very, very serious... I'm not going to say what we're going to talk about in the bonus podcast, but we're getting into like the dark territory of News.
I'll just put it that way.
I'll just put it that way.
I can't say too much.
YouTube will ban us.
But it's gonna get fun, and that'll be up around 11.
You'll see the title of it anyway.
Let's talk about this news story out of New York, which is... It's not so much that... Well, here's the story.
Okay, okay.
That's a very serious error, right?
redo its first round of ranked choice voting after accidentally including 135,000 test
votes in official results.
Okay, okay, that's a very serious error, right?
I'm not so worried about this.
Eric Adams, who is projected to win, he's a, what, you said he was a retired cop?
lydia smith
Yeah, he is.
tim pool
Alright, he's a retired cop, he's a pro cop.
Um, he's probably gonna win.
And he noticed this.
What's crazy about this story is the reaction from the mainstream press.
I mean, it is crazy.
If the dude didn't catch this, who knows what would've happened.
Would've been ridiculous.
But the mainstream press immediately comes out saying he was acting like Donald Trump.
Check this out, we got a few tweets here that highlight a lot of this.
Glenn Greenwald says, this is really amazing, countless smug liberals spent hours maligning and sneering at Eric Adams as a Trumpian fraud for questioning the NYC election results.
When those questions were completely vindicated, they slinked away.
Michael Tracy said, pundits at 5.30pm, it's some despicable Donald Trump-ish for Eric Adams to question the veracity of these election results.
NYC Board of Elections, at 10.30pm, turns out we actually did add 135,000 fake votes.
Greenwald then goes on to say, Media Matters, needless to say, pushed the same attacks on Eric Adams for questioning what were clearly the sketchy election results, results which were ultimately withdrawn as false.
All right, man, look.
We got some serious problems right now with stuff like this.
The media's instinctive reaction is going to be tribalist.
The government is always right.
There's never any problems with any elections.
Trust everything on its first go.
Do no fact-checking.
I don't... I'm less... How do I put this?
The media is the problem, is that fair to say?
Is that the easiest way to put it?
benjamin stewart
Yeah, they're the story spinners.
They're definitely the ones that put forward the stories that, like you said this, before they even knew what was going on, they already had their story lined up.
You gotta wonder.
You definitely gotta wonder.
I'd say the media, in general, what was that one, I forget what they were, like somebody lined up the same narrative over and over and over again.
tim pool
Oh, the gun thing!
You're talking about how you would Google search, like, you would search something like gun, you know, X amount of gun deaths, and then you'd see all of these different news outlets with the identical story.
benjamin stewart
Identical copy.
tim pool
Yeah, except they would change the name of the city and the amount of gun deaths.
And then they would all say, you know, so-and-so advocates say that we must have more gun control.
You couldn't, this is what's crazy about this, you wouldn't know about that without the internet.
Back in the day, you'd walk to your cafe or whatever, you'd pick up The Milton Township Times, and it would have this crazy story about gun deaths and why we need gun control, and you'd be like, wow, that's crazy.
Written by someone you know.
Now today, they do the same thing, but we go on Google, we see it.
It's all lined up, like Tennessee, Milwaukee, you know, Detroit, all saying the exact same thing.
ian crossland
The Time News article, Time News magazine, where they have like a different Uh, cover, depending on the country that they're in, because it's all about manipulating the populace.
tim pool
They call it A-B testing.
People actually point this out too.
Depending on if you're following some honest people, there'll be a cover for a newspaper and it'll say something like, Donald Trump stands defiant in the face of Democrat onslaught.
And that will be a newspaper that appears in a red state.
The same newspaper with the exact same story will reframe the whole thing saying,
Democrats condemn bigotry and corruption of Donald Trump.
And it's the same exact story, they just changed the title because they know different ones
will sell.
ian crossland
I would say that it's not the media necessarily, because this is media, this show, and it's
But there's like an organization that owns a lot of media structure, like ABC and MSNBC.
I mean, I have never really followed the trail too far up the chain, because a lot of times it gets obfuscated.
benjamin stewart
Yeah, you're right.
No, media is archetypal.
We desire media and people congregate around, OK, well, we'll give you the news.
Was the first industrial complex when they came out with the printing press?
Was that technically the first?
I went through this at one point to figure out what was the first, the second, the third.
We're in the midst of the fourth right now.
But, I mean, it really launched by being able to get news out faster, quicker, getting more news out.
So, I mean, like, what is news other than stories you should believe?
But what is the underlying, the undertone, is there's always a victim.
That's you, the reader.
You're always the victim.
The freedom-loving American, you're the victim.
And we'll tell you who the bad guy is, whose head's on the chopping block today.
Because there's always a head on the chopping block, and it's always like, look at these terrible people making your life so difficult.
And if you think about it, what would you want in a family?
You would want an example of, what does forgiveness look like?
How do we get through this debacle?
How do we not make it so where we always need to bring the hammer down?
And sometimes you need to bring the hammer down, let's be honest.
tim pool
Humans, uh, maybe, maybe we're a bit like chickens.
We give ourselves a little bit too much credit.
Like in, in, in this story, for instance, it's, it's not like the journalists were sitting behind closed doors all twirling mustaches going, we're going to, you know, smear anyone who dares impose.
It seems like a genuine mistake.
The city included these test votes or whatever.
That seems like really bad, but they were all aligned with each other.
And following that system that you said.
Who's the victim?
You're the victim.
These are the bad guys.
They're the ones who are in trouble.
So when Eric Adams comes out and says, hey I noticed this problem, they follow that narrative.
This guy is like Trump.
He's trying to pull a fast one on you and he's the bad guy.
They didn't care to do any fact-checking.
They didn't care to make a single phone call to figure out what was actually going on.
But I will mention, This is legitimately true for all media, including ours.
So I can do a video where... I did a video recently, a segment a couple days ago, talking about how this legislation in Pennsylvania to ban critical race theory was actually going to be bad because it would prohibit people from talking about... It said you couldn't say things that were racist or sexist.
Well, if you said biological males tend to outperform biological females in football, that would be determined sexist, and the legislation would ban that as well.
It was like a not—the bill made no sense.
But it didn't follow this formula.
It was just like, hey, this is a bad idea.
We should rethink these things.
People are less interested in that.
They want to know who's the bad guy making their lives worse.
Not everybody.
I think, for the most part, this show is a lot of critical thinkers who watch.
But we do have, like any other media outlet, a lot of people who are just like, who's the bad guy?
You know, how are they screwing with us?
And that tends to be the narrative that everyone takes.
benjamin stewart
It's almost like coffee.
It definitely hits the amygdala.
The way that news arrives at us, there's an urgency.
There's always an urgency.
In a sense, I also like that.
I listen to your show a lot and I appreciate the immediacy of what's being talked about and the urgency of it.
What I do like about it is knowing you're independent and also knowing that you bring on people that legitimately have different opinions as well.
tim pool
We try to get a lot of the leftists, they're harder to get.
benjamin stewart
Some of those interviews, and you're right, it's difficult to actually get people to come on to have those kinds of conversations, but I've seen the way you handle it, and I've seen the way you all handle it, and like, you don't all completely agree.
Now you talk about other news, there's this, you know, when was the last time you've seen two anchors sitting side by side like, uh, no, that's actually not what I think.
ian crossland
Dude, that would be awesome.
tim pool
It was called Crossfire.
And Jon Stewart went after Tucker Carlson and ragged on him because he said it was bad that we were debating on public TV because it was creating spectacle.
And he was wrong.
You actually had primetime television where thought leaders were sitting there debating ideas.
And so Jon Stewart comes on and he's like, you're a grown man with a bow tie.
It's like, Jon, I'm a big fan.
But like, We needed that space.
It's so hard to get that back now.
unidentified
It is.
tim pool
We have, whenever I bring up that's hard to get, like, hardcore leftists on the show, I get inundated with grifters.
Like, people who have no intention of actually having a real debate.
They just want to pull soundbites, they want to lie, and then there's that one famous, uh, I'm not going to mention his name, who publicly says, I will come on your show.
I'm like, Name the time and date.
We'll fly you out here.
We'll cover all costs.
I really appreciate it."
And he goes, here's the date.
And I said, great.
And then he privately messages me, I'm not coming on your show.
Yeah, the whole bit.
It was a bit.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, it's really difficult.
Now, I'll be honest.
There are some people on the right that I'm also like, these people are just trying to, you know, come on here and drag and they want to get attention and all this stuff.
But it's the exception, not the rule.
For a lot of these leftist YouTubers, it's the rule, not the exception.
And I think that's true when you look at someone like Eric Weinstein.
I mean, this guy's a progressive.
He is an elite, wealthy, teal-capital progressive saying something is wrong with the Democratic Party and the establishment and the media.
And here's what I find really funny about this whole media thing and these YouTubers.
Like, following that system you mentioned, how it's like, you're the victim, here's the bad guy, I'm like, dude, they're the empire.
They have control of the cultural institutions, they have the presidency, the House, and the Senate.
I can understand what people are like, you know, from 2016 and 18, the Republicans had everything, but they didn't have colleges, they didn't have cultural institutions, movies, radio, whatever, or even YouTube.
YouTube is dominated by left, you know, left, by the left, and so right now the right has, like, Facebook.
Shares.
It's like, dude, you're literally on the side of Darth Vader complaining about the small, marginalized, rural folk.
ian crossland
It feels like the Empire, before it became the Empire in Star Wars, when it was still the Republic, and Darth Vader had not yet donned the mask, and the Emperor still wears regular clothing and looks like a human.
And what changed?
What caused that to become the Empire in Star Wars?
tim pool
They won.
What was it?
Once he gained total control, he eliminated the Jedi Council, then he was like, we're gonna dissolve the Republic and make it a new Galactic Empire.
ian crossland
And they used the Trade Federation as like a false flag?
Is that what it was?
tim pool
Yeah, he was manipulating the Trade Federation to create a crisis that he would exploit.
ian crossland
Okay, so that's where we're at now in history.
Well, I don't know about any grand... It's probably just a movie.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, I'm not gonna sit here and assume that Joe Biden is, like, secretly orchestrating Chinese air invasions into Taiwanese defensive space or anything like that.
benjamin stewart
There's something going on with that, too, because it's either super intentional, the way they're making Joe Biden look right now, Or, and I don't know what else, I mean like, to say that he's coordinating anything other than a couple neurons firing together, you know, it almost seems like they're putting on an act to make him seem worse than he is.
Because like, I don't recall...
I don't know.
You tell me.
When the race was going on, did he seem this bad?
Or did it seem like he declined within a month?
tim pool
He wasn't here.
Remember he kept putting a lid on everything?
Never shut up for any press?
I got an idea for an animated short.
It's Joe Biden standing at a podium and a journalist asks him a softball question and then he's like shaking and like tensing up and sweating and it zooms in on his brain and you see the last two neurons like crawling to each other and then they reach out and touch and there's a spark and then he goes, and that's all he musters out.
benjamin stewart
That's it.
ian crossland
I think he's not the emperor in this metaphor, Biden.
I think it's like someone we don't know.
Or actually, I think there isn't one, and we're brainwashed to think there's an enemy.
Just like this stupid news thing.
tim pool
Remember?
When the emperor's on the ground and he's like, please, I beg you!
benjamin stewart
You know what I like about this theme that we're on, though?
If, you know, if things do go in a way somewhat like that, who was it that actually brought balance?
So, I mean, to me, I've always been thinking, like, you know, I research a lot of really dark stuff.
I even have people asking me, like, with the stuff that you research, and I'm not saying dark as in, like, the worst of the worst.
I really, I just take a look at, like, where's our data going?
What is the big push?
What's the big agenda going on right now?
And people are like, how do you balance your nervous system when you're reading this stuff every day?
And I'm like, I move.
I skate around.
I disassociate from my brain for a while so I can hash it out on the subconscious.
I can hash it out in different ways.
And then I was thinking like, there's gotta be really good people in high places that just, their mouths are shut.
And I'm not drawing a one-to-one correlation with a Darth Vader saying like, no, we're good guys, don't worry, because there's some good people in high places.
I still think there's an ominous challenge that we're all facing right now.
But I just, maybe it's just hope, but I really think there are some good people in high places that are keeping their mouths shut, but when, I don't know what S has to hit what fan, For them to really be like, all right, this is when I actually use my voice.
You know, this is when I actually take a stand.
tim pool
It's going to be like a middle-aged man's Taco Bell night above one of those Dyson air blades.
unidentified
That's like the level of... Oh, that's the worst visual.
tim pool
But, like in Star Wars, for some reason we're talking about Star Wars.
The Empire had their reign, and then things did get better.
So long as there are people in a resistance who are fighting back.
Now, let's forget the sequel films.
Those were nonsense and trash.
benjamin stewart
I don't even consider them Star Wars.
tim pool
Nah, it's weird fan fiction.
But can we talk about Biden's mental state to go back to this neurons firing thing?
benjamin stewart
I've been wanting to talk about his mental state for a while.
tim pool
Well, now you get to.
This is from al.com.
Biden confuses Tuskegee Airmen with syphilis study victims in explaining COVID vaccine reluctance.
What?!
unidentified
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
This is the perfect storm of Biden's brain just breaking on TV.
Because not only were people like, yo, that's like really racist for more than one reason.
He was like saying that Latinx people and minorities.
benjamin stewart
Latinx, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Don't want to get vaccinated because they're scared.
And he's like, remember the Tuskegee Airmen?
And it's like, ah, dude.
unidentified
Oh no, stop, stop, stop.
benjamin stewart
The Tuskegee Airmen.
tim pool
Okay, okay, okay.
Let's slow down for a minute.
The Tuskegee Airmen are heroes.
Didn't Trump present an award to one a couple years ago?
lydia smith
I think so, yeah.
Recently.
tim pool
He stood up and then everyone was cheering for this guy.
They're amazing heroes.
The Tuskegee syphilis experiments were horrifying acts where the government basically told people they were being treated for their disease, but they were just being watched die.
unidentified
Yeah.
Bob Dole.
tim pool
Like these are people who could have been treated the guy was like yeah
But we want to see what happens if we don't treat them, so we'll just keep giving them placebos. Mm-hmm that that
Yeah, Joe Biden Joe Biden ladies and gentlemen Here's my bills a story about no no no take a side take a
side. Let me let me read a little bit Okay, okay
Joe Biden is drawing criticism for comments he made that mixed up the Tuskegee Airmen, a heroic group of African American World War II pilots, with victims of an infamous Alabama syphilis study.
Speaking on the reluctance of some people to get COVID-19 vaccines, Biden said it was harder to get African Americans initially vaccinated because it used to be that they experimented on them, the Tuskegee Airmen and others.
I just, I just want to say like, all right, look, I understand Biden's not all with it.
My bigger concern is if, remember when he was doing that thing at the G7 where he said Libya instead of Syria over and over again?
Could you imagine if he's like sitting there in front of Putin and he's like, if you want the sanctions lifted, you got to get out of Libya.
And Putin goes, OK.
Deal.
Signs it, hands it over, and then like Syria blows up.
You know, whatever.
That's the problem with him not speaking properly.
Now, in this instance, it's more of a facepalm where he literally accused these heroic World War II pilots of being syphilitic men who are used by the government in an experiment.
ian crossland
It's going to people are going to think it's true now, too, for their whole lives.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
ian crossland
Yep.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
There are a lot of people.
This is the crazy thing who they heard him say it.
And it's like we're just talking about the media.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
That when the when the when the NYC election thing happens and this guy, Eric Adams, legit like, hey, this looks wrong.
The media attacks him like crazy.
How many people heard Biden say that?
And they're like, that's right.
The Tuskegee Airmen had syphilis.
lydia smith
I think this is more like the Mandela effect we were talking about last night, because now he's interjected this idea.
benjamin stewart
We skipped timelines.
It really was the Tuskegee Airmen.
Biden actually is the only one that knows.
ian crossland
He's the dimensional shift.
tim pool
It's going to be like 30 years and someone's going to be like on a podcast, which is like virtual reality or something.
And they're like, don't you remember that experiment with Tuskegee Airmen where they were given syphilis?
And they're like, yeah, I remember that.
It never happened.
unidentified
It wasn't the Airmen.
tim pool
According to Snopes.com, it was actually a CDC experiment.
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
Dude, I remember, though.
unidentified
Dude, my great-grandfather served in the Tuskegee Air Force.
tim pool
My great-grandfather?
ian crossland
Well, in the future, that's what they'll say.
tim pool
Syphilis is an STD, right?
So the study was people who got the STD, went to get treatment, and the government was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're gonna give you free healthcare, and then didn't treat them and just let them slowly die.
I'm not trying to rag on people who contract illnesses or anything like that, but to look at this photo of these heroic World War II pilots, and then Joe Biden to accidentally say they all had syphilis, that's a brutal thing to say about these guys.
ian crossland
He owes their family some reparations.
unidentified
Agreed.
That's slander.
tim pool
Reparations.
lydia smith
That's fair.
benjamin stewart
David E. Martin, in a talk he gave at the Free and Brave conference, gets into the actual story with the right Tuskegee experiment.
tim pool
Well, so I have it.
This is interesting.
I just pulled it up from the CDC.gov.
And what they say about it, and we were just before the show, I had pulled up the original reporting, which they have here as well.
They say in 1932, the U.S.
Public Health Service, with the Tuskegee Institute, began a study to record the natural history of syphilis.
They say the study initially involved 600 black men, 399 with syphilis, 201 who did not have the disease.
Participants' informed consent was not collected.
Researchers told the men they were being treated for bad blood, a local term to describe several ailments, including syphilis, anemia, fatigue.
In exchange for taking part in the study, the men received free medical exams, free meals, and burial insurance.
Think about that.
They're like, yeah, we'll take care of you.
And then like, we'll pay for it when you die.
They mentioned that by 1943, penicillin was a treatment of choice for syphilis, becoming widely available, but the participants were not offered treatment.
The U.S.
government knew they could save the lives of these men, but the CDC and the U.S.
Public Health Service were like, eh, let's watch them die and see what we can, you know, we'll write it down.
benjamin stewart
Definitely garnered a lot of data, I'm sure.
And, you know, David E. Martin, who I was just mentioning, did say that the CDC, and I haven't actually gone to verify this, but apparently started with studying why malaria kills some people and not others.
It's really like trying to understand plagues.
Which makes sense for the greater story of the CDC, but it is kind of interesting.
And David E. Martin, this was a talk where he was talking about life insurance companies and what we're experiencing now as being a life insurance illiquidity event.
I'll have to look that one up.
ian crossland
People, there's commercials that are like, we will buy your life insurance.
Struggling financially?
Sell us your life insurance.
tim pool
Reverse mortgages?
Are you old and gonna die?
We'll take your house from your children.
benjamin stewart
Yeah, well he was saying 30-year mortgages, when that really started.
Like, what 30-year cycles happen in nature?
He was like, nothing natural.
It was the life expectancy of when a blue-collar worker could buy a home to when he would die.
So you can pay off the mortgage by the time that the bank can foreclose on the house.
He's going deep and he's very hyperbolic when he's talking about these things.
What I like about looking at these things and then going and skating and hashing it out in my mind is not all of it is bunk.
Some of it, it makes you look deeper into history and be like, I did not know that about the CDC.
tim pool
Do you know what mortgage means?
Mortgage?
benjamin stewart
Dead.
Dead, like a corpse.
tim pool
Death deal.
benjamin stewart
Death deal.
ian crossland
Whoa!
tim pool
Yeah, that's a root word.
Or if you look it up, it says pledge, so death pledge.
unidentified
Yikes.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Why are we taking out death pledges with banks?
benjamin stewart
That's weird.
I've even heard of the same thing with corporations, Marine Corps, the way you actually spell that.
Corp.
Yeah, corpus.
Well, this was actually in one of my films, Ungrip, that was all about, it got into maritime admiralty law and legalese, how the name of a lot of these things, it sounds like you're talking English, but you're actually not.
These have alternative meanings.
tim pool
Well, the Latin is corporare, meaning combine in one body.
lydia smith
Body, yeah.
tim pool
So maybe corp was the body.
benjamin stewart
Not a dead body.
Not a dead body.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
It'd be like mort corp or something.
benjamin stewart
Yeah.
Mort corp.
That's the name of my death metal band.
ian crossland
I like that you brought up admiralty law.
I think something not a lot of people know about is that there's what is it civil law and admiralty law?
benjamin stewart
There's a whole bunch and they all seem to go back to ecclesiastical law according to my friend who did this film.
And it's an interesting thing, if you are in a certain form of law in court, according to my friend White Walking Feather, Robin the Paget family, he said you can pull it back to earlier forms of law.
And he would always, when he was in court for not having a driver's license and he gave up his birth certificate and all those things, he would get pulled into court and he would bring it back to ecclesiastical law.
Where they had to recognize him as flesh and blood rather than a legal fiction.
ian crossland
Like before the social security cards were invented.
Like they've kind of corporatized law or I don't know how to describe it exactly, but like I'm fascinated with Admiralty law.
That's like the law of the sea.
They say like you're birthed when you arrive in a port and you like you come
onto the land as a fresh, you know, citizen or whatever you are.
benjamin stewart
Human resource as well because that that number on the back of your birth
certificate is in a human resource database rather than like, you know, some
kind of medical database, which makes sense.
You know, I see a lot of people that they draw different things from all this.
And, like, to me, I feel like we've been moving into this managed... You mentioned, like, when Bill Gates was talking, he said, like, what was it?
He used the word management?
Population management.
That word... We'll talk about more of that in the after section.
tim pool
We can say this.
The conspiracy theory is that Bill Gates is, like, I'm gonna kill all these people.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
When he's actually saying, I want to make sure these people don't exist.
And that's the acceptable mainstream Ted talk.
Bill.
So Bill, there's this article from Reuters.
It's a fact check.
They're like, Bill Gates did not say he wanted to wipe out 50% of the population.
What he said was we want to prevent 15% of population growth.
benjamin stewart
Right.
tim pool
So it's interesting that that's it's mainstream and acceptable to be like, if
the people don't exist in the first place, we're good.
benjamin stewart
Can somebody verify real quick, because I mean, I watch a lot of media and sometimes I keep an info in the back of my head and I'm just like, I don't know, but his parents, Bill Gates' parents, anyone familiar?
Planned Parenthood?
I don't know.
I don't want to dive too deep into that, but the whole idea about management is what I'm talking about with where we're kind of headed with data proliferation and data aggregators and everything is data now.
Your medical data is being shared in ways that people are starting to argue about, but where we're heading through this entire process that the world is going through right now, is a lot more about management, and you'll hear people like Alison McDowell, who I recommend everybody go check out wrenchinthegears.com.
Alison McDowell is putting together how a lot of these dots connect, and she's saying a lot of it is poverty management for the coming 5, 6, 7, 8 years and beyond.
tim pool
That's what Bill Gates called his poverty management.
benjamin stewart
Poverty management.
tim pool
And that includes reducing population growth.
I want to mention this just real quick.
If you speak French, you know that mortgage means death pledge.
I don't quite understand why we call it that.
That's not... Horrific.
Yeah, I know.
A death pledge.
benjamin stewart
Death pledge.
That's a better name for a death metal band.
Death Pledge or Mort Corp.
unidentified
Mort Corp!
benjamin stewart
Mort Corp will be the first album.
tim pool
It's not actually Latin though, anyway.
But let's jump from Biden's broken brain to where we get into, like, the freaky.
And this story, like, rightly freaked me out.
I'm going to start by saying something very, very simple.
Dr. Fauci is not your doctor.
And he doesn't know what's right for you.
Because you could have some weird growth on your butt.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Your doctor's got to tell you what that is.
Not Fauci.
And Joe Rogan as well.
These people are allowed to have their opinions, of course.
But you gotta talk to your own doctors.
I say it 51 million times.
Because we have the story here.
Columbus judge is adding a new term to defendant's probation.
Get your COVID shot.
This is literally a judge sentencing people to vaccination.
Let me give you an example.
They say a man named Cameron Stringer entered a guilty plea for one charge of improperly handling firearms in a motor vehicle, for which he was sentenced to two years of probation.
They call it community control in Ohio.
I just want to point out, is that it?
Second Amendment lawsuit right there, right?
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
If somebody gets sentenced to probation because they were handling firearms, uh, mishandling them, then I think there may be an advocacy group which could sue, get this taken up at the Supreme Court, file an appeal, and maybe get it overturned on the grounds of like, you're allowed to handle firearms, whatever.
Now in this instance, I guess what happened was, the gun wasn't his.
So Ohio was like, not yours, give it back to the owner, two years probation.
And, Stringer must submit to a random drug screening, avoid further legal trouble, return a firearm in question to its rightful owner, and obtain a COVID-19 vaccine within 30 days and provide proof to the probation department.
unidentified
I don't get it.
tim pool
Yeah, why is a judge telling people to get a medical treatment?
This is the problem when you have 50 million celebrities all being like you should go get a specific could you let
me slow down?
Imagine if you had every celebrity being like you should all be taking
Percocets like no no no no no no no Like, yes, I understand why we prescribe these painkillers to people who really need them, but celebrities shouldn't be going on.
It's actually against the law, I'm pretty sure, for them to do ads that they have to like label them as ads when they advocate for anything.
It's like a medical treatment or whatever.
Yet in this instance, it is widely acceptable.
And in fact, you can get banned for even questioning it.
The doctor's gotta be the one to tell you, man.
ian crossland
Slight question.
If celebrities were like, you should roll around in the mud, but then if they were like, you should roll around in the mud because it's good for your immune system, is that then considered health advice, where the first one's not?
tim pool
The issue is, you're allowed to give all the health advice in the world except on this one issue.
That's the weirdest thing.
Now listen, there's a really... What a judge.
I know.
Right, right, right.
The judge is not a doctor.
What happens if this guy goes to the doctor and the doctor's like, uh, you've got a lump on your butt.
I'm recommending no for the vaccine.
ian crossland
You've got to overrule the court.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
But what if he's like, I don't care.
I don't care what the doctor... He should be saying, you should go to a doctor and request an evaluation to see if you could get the vaccine.
And if you can, we would like you to get it.
benjamin stewart
Even that...
is weird right you know like even saying like i'm not going to order you to get your vaccine in 30 days but i recommend like what what judge what what jurisdiction everything is about jurisdiction there that's what i'm curious about where is the jurisdiction to include that What if the doctor was like, um, have you had your appendix removed?
tim pool
And the guy's like, um, no, no, your honor.
Why not?
I don't know.
Well, within 30 days, submit proof that you've had it removed.
So I understand one's a more serious medical procedure than the other.
lydia smith
But I'm super curious.
What is the precedent for this?
We just got done talking about the Tuskegee syphilis experiments.
Like, under what circumstances should a governing body be able to tell you you're going to get a medical procedure?
tim pool
You guys are gonna love the next part of this.
This is an article from Dispatch.com.
This is a USA Today Network website.
Gary Daniels, a lobbyist with the ACLU expressed concern about the practice Thursday, comparing it to Ohio judges who have ordered defendants convicted of crimes not to procreate.
I'm staying away from Ohio!
ian crossland
Whoa, I'm glad I left.
Love you, Ohio, but come on!
benjamin stewart
Yeah.
tim pool
Mr. Crossland, you have been convicted of rockin' the gunge.
For this, you can never have kids.
benjamin stewart
No babies.
ian crossland
You can't stop me, your honor.
lydia smith
What the hell?
benjamin stewart
Much love, bruh.
tim pool
This dude, this dude apparently, so like, I actually have the story.
This guy apparently had 11 kids.
And his, even his crime was not paying child support.
lydia smith
Are you Are you joking?
tim pool
That was the crime.
Oh.
And so they were like, you can't have any more kids.
And he was like, BS.
And he sued and said, you can't tell me I can't have kids.
And the Supreme Court was like, you can't tell someone they can't have kids.
benjamin stewart
That's what I'm wondering with this other thing is like, my worry is like, do they have
jurisdiction?
Is there some weird wording and loophole?
tim pool
I'm pretty sure they do.
A lot of people, since the vaccine thing started, have been saying, like, you can't mandate medical treatments and you have no right to my private records.
And I'm fairly certain—I could be wrong with this.
That there's an exception in the Americans with Disabilities Act for public health requirements.
And that does make sense.
I mean, like, come on, if there was a zombie apocalypse, you'd be right on board with whatever we had to do to stop the zombie apocalypse.
The issue now is... Actually, I take that back.
Like, it's politics, man.
You'd be surprised.
benjamin stewart
I don't think people know how to trust.
And I know this is like, it might seem like a huge jump, but even if there was a zombie apocalypse, imagine the amount of people who would be like, I don't trust what anyone tells me.
I'm going to deal with this my way.
And I kind of feel like that would be a big issue.
Like, even if there were a world event that could unite everybody, I don't think people know how to trust enough right now.
Especially not right now.
tim pool
I don't know if they ever did.
benjamin stewart
You're probably right about that.
tim pool
Yeah.
Um, maybe small communities, but this like countries that are this big, definitely not, but there is rule by fear.
So I'd, I'd be willing to bet that if like a zombie apocalypse happened in China, they would just gun everybody down and say like, look, you know, collateral damage.
If we, if we shoot everybody, we'll save the 10% on, you know, non zombie people.
benjamin stewart
Right.
Or you have to move to Ohio.
That's even worse.
In Ohio, there was this man whose house burnt down.
His cat died in the house fire.
I forget his name.
I think it was Youngstown, Ohio.
But anyway, he had a pacemaker, a smart pacemaker.
And afterwards, the fire department noticed that the fire looked like it was set in several different locations of the house.
So they went to the manufacturer of his pacemaker to get the data.
They used that in court to show that he was very active when the fires were set.
So his pacemaker testified against him in court.
tim pool
Did you hear the story about, there was like a murder, and then the police subpoenaed Amazon for, I'm not going to say the robot's name because we have one, subpoenaed, like there's a recording of this, and everybody was like, that's not possible, you have to tell it to record, and they were like, oh no, it recorded everything.
ian crossland
Oh, I heard more about that.
Apparently, so this is the domestic abuse?
Yeah, something like that.
And it turned on, and then the guy was like, did you call the sheriff?
And then it called the sheriff when it heard that.
unidentified
What?
ian crossland
And then the sheriff listened in.
tim pool
I don't believe it.
ian crossland
This is what I heard.
Yeah, it's anecdotal.
tim pool
I don't know.
Bro, I can't get that dumb thing to play the right song half the time.
I'm trying to get it to play some Elton John and it keeps putting on some other weird modern hip-hop garbage.
unidentified
It's got like 20... I want to hear Goodbye Yellow Brick Road!
benjamin stewart
It's got like 2050 technology in what data they're trying to gather but when you're trying to get your song to play it's like circa 1922 technology.
lydia smith
But remember when police departments were using ring cameras that people have on their front doors?
They were hacking in and they had a deal with, I think it was Amazon, and these entire police departments could just tap on it whenever they wanted to.
So I totally believe that they used the little friend over there to call the sheriff when somebody mentioned that.
That's insane.
benjamin stewart
It's all for our safety.
I hope you guys know that.
ian crossland
Safety over security.
Security over freedom.
benjamin stewart
What does Charles Eisenstein call it?
He said, we have been bowing at the altar of safety for so long.
And somebody else put it in a way, he said, what we need to be doing is demonstrating living at all costs rather than staying alive at all costs.
And it really does seem like the way you manage people is you make them believe that death and destruction and bad things are right around the corner, unless behavior modulation.
You have to modify your behavior.
tim pool
Let me read you the story from ScienceMag.org.
A judge said police can search the DNA of one million Americans without their consent.
What's next?
There's also several stories of states pushing back on police subpoenaing Ancestry data.
So people get these kits from these, you know, these DNA... 23andMe and Ancestry.com.
And then the cops are like, let's hit them up and get that data.
And so now it's like a big legal battle.
And this is an older story, but very much so.
benjamin stewart
Where was that?
tim pool
This is ScienceMag.org.
It just says, I can read a little bit.
Search warrant reported by the New York Times raises alarming possibility of similar police searches of giant direct-to-consumer DNA sites, such as Ancestry and 23andMe, that are now closed to everyone except company customers who willingly submit saliva samples.
They say a detective wanted to find distant relatives of a serial Abuser!
I'll put it that way.
way in hopes of their family trees could help them hone in on a suspect even though most
of the 1.3 million people who have shared their DNA with the site haven't agreed to
such a search.
So this is a genealogy site called a GED match.
Not the first time, it won't be the last time.
benjamin stewart
No, data misappropriation is literally written into the fine print so it can be shared in case of X, Y, and Z. And X, Y, and Z can be pulled out of any hat.
tim pool
Fingerprints on your phone.
benjamin stewart
Interesting.
tim pool
How many people have taken their smartphone and given it all their fingerprints for convenience?
ian crossland
I've done that.
tim pool
And now iTunes, or I'm sorry, Apple and Google are like, when you, have you read the terms on this thing?
I'd be willing to bet it says, you give us access to your fingerprint image to use and exploit as we see fit, because how else would it actually work?
They need permission to use your fingerprint, then they have it, and when they get subpoenaed for your fingerprints, congratulations, you're fingerprinted.
benjamin stewart
Yeah, totally, totally.
And you mentioned Ancestry.com, they were just bought not too long ago, 75% of which bought by Blackstone.
The other 25% is owned by China.
unidentified
Check it out.
benjamin stewart
Ancestry.com last August.
ian crossland
Kind of what terrifies me that Apple now has my fingerprints, you know, theoretically, is that they could then put my fingerprints somewhere.
tim pool
Blackstone bought your DNA.
Come on, man.
Look at this.
benjamin stewart
And your house.
tim pool
Blackstone.com.
Literally from their website.
Blackstone completes acquisition of Ancestry, leading online family history business for $4.7 billion.
Yo, they bought your DNA, dude.
And you know what the funny thing is?
I'll tell you this.
They don't got my DNA.
They got my parents' DNA.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's all they got.
benjamin stewart
They got both my parents' DNA.
tim pool
So they got some amalgamation of yours, though they don't know exactly which ones made it through, but they might have enough.
They might know that you are 97.3% likely to have a certain gene marker or something like that.
benjamin stewart
Am I allowed to... What we were talking about earlier with with the genetics.
lydia smith
Yes.
benjamin stewart
Am I allowed to just ask a question?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Maybe we should save the really dark stuff for the bonus.
benjamin stewart
Well, it's not really dark.
It's just a question about testing.
lydia smith
I would think so.
benjamin stewart
I love this.
Do you know who came up with the PCR test?
unidentified
No.
benjamin stewart
Cary Mullis.
I won't even go super deep into this, but Cary Mullis came up with the PCR test.
He just died very recently.
And when the PCR test was starting to be used to test, he was like, guys, this isn't what you use to test an active virus inside the body.
He's not around anymore to comment on that.
But what PCR is really good for is rapidly replicating DNA.
Rapidly replicating it.
tim pool
PCR tests?
benjamin stewart
It's polymerase chain reaction.
I learned this by realizing how you can teleport DNA via email.
Wait, what?
So basically, and this was Peter Gayaev, he was a Russian scientist, and then Iona and Alan Miller, if anyone wants to check that out, reversed this thing called the phantom DNA experiment.
I won't explain it now, but anyways, it was Luc Montagnier, you might know that name.
lydia smith
Yes.
benjamin stewart
Okay, so he basically took DNA, infused it into water, kind of like cucumber infused water, but this is DNA infused water.
And then they removed all DNA particulate through a filter, then it's just infused with the vibratory signature of the DNA.
They took that, they encoded that into an mp3-like file, emailed it from Canada to Italy, I believe it was, then they took that vibratory signature, impregnated it into distilled water, and then from there they needed one extra step to turn it back into DNA, and that was PCR.
tim pool
I want to say, when you break it down like that, it does kind of sound crazy, but it just sounds like they found a way to encode DNA and transport it digitally.
benjamin stewart
So that was that story.
And here's the thing, I'm not making a statement here.
I'm just kind of curious.
The guy who created and got a Nobel Peace Prize for the creation of the PCR test saying, this is not how you test for what you're actively testing for.
ian crossland
I don't think it's that simple.
benjamin stewart
of known and it was I got people who say I don't think they're harvesting DNA and I
ian crossland
I am like so they're looking at like a DNA reaction to a virus with the PCR
test and then you think they're using that data then and transmitting it
unidentified
digitally elsewhere or I don't think it's that simple okay I don't think it's
tim pool
that simple. Bro, Blackstone just bought Ancestry.com they don't need to do any of
benjamin stewart
that they got the DNA. How many how many what's the ratio of the population that
are on Ancestry.com or 23andMe Because there's another one, like 20, 21, or ViaNet, 21 ViaNet or something like that.
There's other DNA.
tim pool
There's the GED match, there's the 23andMe, there's Ancestry.
benjamin stewart
Right.
And a lot of them are actually bought by same companies left with the same branding.
I know 21 Vionet, I think that's what it's called, was also Blackstone.
ian crossland
Oh, wow.
Okay.
tim pool
Well, I'll tell you this.
Look, look, look.
benjamin stewart
I don't know.
I'm just going to leave it at that.
tim pool
Right.
We get to that wall where it's like, man, we could speculate for 50 million years.
We have no idea other than Blackstone's a creepy company who's buying up all the houses and they got our DNA.
They manage $8.7 trillion.
ian crossland
It would be cool to send digitally send DNA to Mars and then grow it on Mars without having to transport it.
benjamin stewart
That's what Catherine Austin Fitz in Solari.com was saying with a high powered enough laser, you could send it off planet.
So here's the thing, again, very speculative, but I was wondering, like, how would you send it off planet and get through the aberrations get fidelity through the aberrations of the atmosphere?
tim pool
Just a long enough period of time.
ian crossland
Or send it from a satellite.
benjamin stewart
Or you send it from the 30 meter telescope they're trying to build on Mount Achaia that for real deep observation, they use these mirrors that react in real time to the adjustments or to the aberrations in the atmosphere to adjust the way it distorted light back into a normal signal.
So you could do the same in the other direction.
ian crossland
Wow, what if we got distorted DNA and you're like, what is this aberration?
tim pool
It sounds like what you're saying is that they want to beam They want to seed other worlds with DNA.
benjamin stewart
I'm not gonna confirm nor deny, but it was DARPA that said they wanted to start putting bases on the moon and extracting resources from there.
tim pool
How many exoplanets have we found?
Or class M planets have we found?
Do they actually call them class M planets?
benjamin stewart
I don't know, but I would love to know how many we've found.
tim pool
So, um, I think there's actually a number because it's a big deal when we find these, these earth-like planets or that they call it, what are they called?
The Goldilocks zone?
What if they're just like, we're going to beam the data of life onto these planets through laser encoded, whatever.
ian crossland
Hit the tide pool.
tim pool
And then it hits it and encodes certain DNA and just makes it happen.
Just gets life started on these planets.
benjamin stewart
See, like, I don't get paid to stay within the bounds of, you know, I like theorizing beyond and then admitting I'm just a filmmaker, guys.
Like, I'm not actually an investigative journalist.
I'm a filmmaker.
I love researching, so all the things that I'm saying, I mean like somebody tomorrow could come and say, hey, I don't think you get the nuances of this PCR thing, and I'll say thank you for bringing that to my attention.
That's why I bring it up on shows like this.
tim pool
And I'll mention too, the problem, the reason I say we hit that wall where it's like we really don't know, we can speculate forever is, The way conspiracy theories work when they go bad is that
you've got to connect the dots image.
That if you, it's, you know, 5,000 dots.
And when you complete it, it's a gorilla.
But if you only see a tiny portion of it, you could connect the dots and you're like, it's a giraffe.
And you're like, bro, zoom out.
There's way more you're missing and you don't understand.
And we probably bump into that all the time on this show, as does everybody else.
They have limited, they only know as much as they can know.
They're missing some information.
So they connect dots, the dots connect, but they're missing context.
benjamin stewart
Totally, totally.
And Carol Roth, excellent guest you just had on.
And somebody, I think you both were mentioning, like, what do you think about the Great Reset and Davos and everything?
And she was like, I don't see a global connection to it.
And I was biting my tongue thinking I have two words and one name for you, Carol, and that's Allison McDowell.
And if I connect Carol to Allison McDowell's work, because here's the thing, I think Allison McDowell, out of everyone, she's been actually putting maps together of where the funding channels come, what the programs are, what businesses, wrenchinthegears.com.
I'm just gonna say that I would love somebody to actually break it down and show me how what she's saying is not completely, you know, on point.
Because when you're saying connect the dots, I also look at it as like, connect the dots.
You can connect it in random ways and it won't make an image.
And then you can say, well, I don't know if most of these dots even need to be here on this page.
But once you see the completed image put together correctly, then you see the need for every one of those dots.
And I'm just going to say, those dots are big data, big pharma, all the bigs, right?
Connected.
We don't see them connected until you see them connected, and then it's hard to unsee them.
I'm not saying she's right, and I'm not saying that I'm right.
I'm just saying it's hard to unsee it once you've seen it that way.
tim pool
You ever see those puzzles where you get a grid?
It's a graph.
It's just like, you know, lines, boxes.
Looks like a crossword puzzle, but it's blank, right?
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And then you'll get another, a key.
That shows you, it'll say A1, A2, A3, A4, then B1, B2, etc., and in each little box is a squiggly line.
And then what you're supposed to do is, okay, so B4 is this line, I'll put it here, and then once you complete all of the instructions, it forms a real picture.
So each little box, it's like, you'll see a line with a dot, and you're like, I have no idea what that is.
And if you were to draw ten of them, you'd be like, I'm looking at a bunch of weird lines and weird little grid boxes.
Complete all of them, and that's how you draw a bigger picture, right?
So, much like the connect the dots thing, you may look at a small portion and see a bunch of weird squiggly lines.
And then if you zoom out and you're able to incorporate all the rest of the Sudoku puzzle, is a better way to put it.
ian crossland
And you might even, when you zoom in, see what you think, like you said, a giraffe.
Like, you might see a completed image that isn't the real completed image that's intended.
tim pool
Or a small piece of it, and it changes the context, right?
Like, if you saw a picture of Donald Trump on a surfboard with a massive wave, you'd be like, whoa, Donald Trump surfing on, like, this massive wave?
And then you zoom out, and then there's Kim Jong-un painting a picture of Donald Trump surfing on a massive wave, It changes the context of everything.
There's more to that picture.
Can I just say something real quick though?
Blackstone sounds like the name of a villain in a video game.
benjamin stewart
It does.
ian crossland
I brought this here because Ben actually on his last video on Ben Joseph Stewart on YouTube talked about Blackstone and the scrying mirror which was obsidian.
This is not real obsidian.
I thought it was when I bought it.
This is plastic I believe.
But obsidian's a black stone that historically I believe they used as a scrying mechanism.
benjamin stewart
Yeah, I'm not sure what the Aztecs used it for.
I think it was Montezuma, but after Montezuma was plundered, a lot of those, let's say Montezuma's bling, was sent over to Europe.
And the advisor to the Tudor dynasty, Sir John Dee, very into magic and alchemy, he used that scrying mirror and called it a speculum.
Which is, if you look at the etymology, that is at least in part where we get speculation from.
Because you would speculate, you know, what you're seeing in the scrying mirror.
And then you look at the financial markets and how the financial markets are bigger than the actual economy.
It's money being produced from money.
It's not from goods and services.
It's speculation.
tim pool
It's pure confidence.
If people believe something has value, someone all of a sudden has currency.
unidentified
Totally.
tim pool
Or can transfer it to currency.
benjamin stewart
Totally.
Yeah, and Blackstone came from Blackrock.
Larry Fink split off, I think in the 80s, and split off from Blackrock.
There's also, uh, Greystone?
I think there's... What's funny is, like, Larry Fink... Are we talking like Lord of the Rings?
It's strange, but there's a lot of those names because even the son of Blackstone's CEO or BlackRock's CEO came up with a video production site that was also like, you know, black something.
They're very much so like hitting on that kind of something about Blackstone's, BlackRock's, Not really sure.
tim pool
Let's do a movie.
Yeah.
Let's like script out.
I'm just imagining it's like a rocky terrain and there's a guy and he's got a blaster and he's running and his shirt's ripped and he's like, it's them!
It's Blackstone!
unidentified
And a helicopter lands and a bunch of guys jump out and they're like, stop resisting!
tim pool
And it's the sci-fi, there's a dome for some reason.
benjamin stewart
And you're like, who are you?
We're Blackwater.
We're the private military arm.
ian crossland
Black stone is the most ominous.
Like black rock, black stone.
It's like dark periapt.
tim pool
But it's so on the nose that the protagonists are like, we've made it.
It's the fortress of black stone.
It's a giant obsidian rock.
Their base is in it.
ian crossland
How do we get in?
It's pure obsidian.
tim pool
Or there's like a comet made of obsidian or some other, that's probably nonsensical.
unidentified
Every like 600 years it comes around and orbits the planet.
tim pool
They sent advanced troops to Earth to conquer it through economic means.
Bro, I mean, look, people, they're buying up houses like crazy.
And it's very difficult for people to buy when they get free money from the Fed.
And then we hear that they... I mean, what else are they doing?
benjamin stewart
Oh, Blackstone?
Yeah.
Oh my goodness.
Well, you know, for one, like right now, buying up the housing, it's affordable housing.
Here's what I think that's about.
It's affordable housing and single-family unit homes.
And this also comes on the heels of, again, it's just something I heard from a very reputable source, Catherine Austin Fitz.
A lot of people will just put her in a kooky category, but she was under George Bush Sr., working in HUD.
And she left—she was just trying to follow the trail, like, where is these trillions of dollars of missing federal budget going?
And she traced it all the way up to more than $21 trillion, which was more than the national debt.
And she was like, this is a different civilization.
So anyway, she was saying that a lot of what she believes the riots of 2020 were, a lot of the destruction, what's being built up in its place is the smart grid.
I have a sneaky suspicion that maybe Blackstone is taking these affordable housing units for poverty management as smart grid housing.
tim pool
So we've talked about artificial intelligence on the show before and the misconceptions people have about it.
They seem to think that if the AI takes over, like if we build an AI, we'll get Skynet and a bunch of Terminators will walk around and be like, you know, or we'll get Ultron in order to bring peace to the planet.
Humans must be wiped out because then we have peace.
No, no, it's not gonna be anything like that.
What's going to happen is you're going to, in an AI managed future, you'll be, you'll be sitting in your house.
You'll be watching TV when all of a sudden your watch will go, and you'll look at it, and it'll say, jump three times, and you'll jump three times.
And then it'll go, you've earned credits, and you go, yay!
And then it's like, you decide to go for a run, and then you're running down the street, and it goes, turn left now to earn three credits, and you go, okay.
You turn left, you have no idea why you're doing it or why you're being asked to do it.
But when you zoom way out, there's something much bigger happening.
When you jumped three times, you knocked loose like a clog in a pipe that was jamming up a line or something.
The AI knows it.
You don't know it.
You have no idea why you're doing what you're doing.
That's the AI future.
So when we talk about the smart grid and all that stuff, where all of these things are happening, where it's like they're buying up houses, and we here be chickens, my friends, sitting in the coop, having no idea what's happening beyond these walls.
This is probably nothing.
If it was really a problem that we were talking about this, calling them out for buying up these houses and shutting out the middle class, they wouldn't let us talk about it.
ian crossland
No, no, you do have a moment in time to talk about it before the they can respond.
I found a couple of years.
Usually it seems like at least in 2006 and seven, you could call out the big deal and it took them.
They were reeling.
They didn't understand the masses are awakening.
How do we handle this?
And it's like they're stunned for a short period of time.
But I also agree, I don't think, I think this is a front.
This is what we're allowed to see.
This is mainstream news.
tim pool
No, no, no.
benjamin stewart
We're allowed to out ourselves as well.
I mean, the thing is, and this doesn't mean anything really, but my subscriber base on YouTube was growing steadily until I came on this show.
And that's not an insult.
That's basically like, I think that's when I got on a certain kind of radar, because it hasn't moved since then.
It was growing steadily.
Whatever, I could speculate all day.
tim pool
It's the big honey trap of YouTube.
They're like, we'll let Tim Pool grow so he can bring on these people and then we can pick them off one by one.
benjamin stewart
And they can out themselves.
ian crossland
That's very Soviet.
benjamin stewart
You know, you were saying about the tokenization.
That's what Allison McDowell is actually saying a lot of this is moving towards is tokenizing.
And so the economy might be changing in a way where you get a token, you are incentivized to eat a certain way.
You are incentivized to behave a certain way.
And I mean, like, I won't get into where Pokemon Go came from, but it looks like a Pokemon Go future where you're tokenized for the right behavior and you're penalized for the not right behavior.
And that's where the smart grid affordable housing comes in.
Because you can be geo-fenced inside of your house where none of your technology actually works outside of it.
That's what geo-fencing, you know, is already set up to do.
Run from satellites.
Does this sound paranoid?
Yes.
Do I believe that we shouldn't talk about it because it seems paranoid?
No, I think we should be able to trust that people have a BS meter, and that people can do their own research, but like, it's gotta at least be mentioned, right?
Seems a little weird, right?
tim pool
There was a very great man who once said, just because you're paranoid, don't mean they're not after you.
Right?
ian crossland
Who was that?
tim pool
Kurt Cobain.
Love it.
You know, my perspective really changes when I get chickens.
You know, I love talking about the chickens because they're hilarious.
Watching chickens is funny, man.
They have drama and, like, we introduced a new chicken and, like, there's drama in the pecking order and they're, like, staring each other down.
But now, like, the rooster's dating the real, like, it's great.
ian crossland
They're in love.
tim pool
So they seem to like each other.
We're gonna do that.
It's gonna be the Chicken City.
We're building a new coop so it's bigger and more space.
And we're building the space out so we can have the cameras hooked up right into the...
It's a long thing.
benjamin stewart
We're working on it.
The Avian Show.
It's like the Truman Show.
tim pool
Check this out, check this out.
I started thinking about this because there are behaviors that I can't communicate to chickens to stop doing, like taking a dump in their water.
So we had someone say, Tim, get a water nipple system.
It's a bucket with little red spouts, and when they peck it, it moves a little plug, which makes water come out.
Solved the problem immediately.
Instead of giving them water to drink, which they kept taking a dump in, I had to take it out and introduce something else.
Now, they have no idea our conversation on this show happened.
The chickens one day are sitting there, taking a dump where they stand, and I come in with a bucket full of water, and they're like, okay.
And they still take dumps in ridiculous places.
They start climbing on top of the roofs, taking dumps.
So what do I do?
I've got to put something in the way to stop them from doing it, right?
It's really obvious when you think about it.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
We're not gonna tell the chickens what to do because they don't speak English We're gonna put you know, those pigeon things, you know, like they don't want pigeons to land places Yeah, they they make they change the environment change the outcome they want from our behaviors people make the mistake of thinking that you know They're like Bill Gates.
Oh, we're gonna we're gonna challenge him as if he's a political rival, bro.
He's a billionaire He looks at you like a chicken You're a chicken.
And his mentality, as he stated in his TED talk, was, if we do these things, we can change the behavior of people and properly manage population.
He's not looking at people like human beings who want to have families, who have hopes and dreams.
He's looking at you like some animal grazing around, taking a dump where you stand.
And he's thinking, what do I do to change their behavior to create a better outcome that I think think would be the better out.
ian crossland
Let's change the system.
This is a lot of the ways I think, too, because, like, I'm not in a cult
worship. I don't like a guy getting up and be like, I'll lead you there.
So I want to build a better system that allows us to flourish
individually. And I'm sure he's thinking the same thing, but that can
go horribly awry if you did the problem.
tim pool
The system. The problem is every instance of authoritarianism
has gone bad throughout history.
And we know it because no one person, no committee is
smart enough to manage billions of people and and
these massive economies.
So what invariably happens is mass suffering.
But there's a flip side to this.
And this is what I asked Alex Jones.
I was like, you talk about the Davos group and all of these conspiracies.
What if they're right, though?
What if, left unchecked, we will reach mass population and end up, you know, just constantly starved and fighting and diseased?
We know what happens when deer populations get out of control.
We know what happens when hog populations get out of control.
That's why people get in helicopters and fly around shooting hogs.
They have a lot of fun doing it, but if there's too many hogs, they destroy all the plant life, they attack people, they get diseased, they starve, and they die.
So proper management of the population is a good thing.
Which brings us to the dark, dark questions of our own humanity and whether or not...
ian crossland
Weed is just a plant that grows really fast and basically takes over the garden and strangles out all the other things for nutrients.
So like, are humans weeds?
Have we done that to Earth?
Kind of.
lydia smith
Margaret Sanger actually used the analogy of weeds.
She said we have to weed the human garden.
And that's exactly what Plan B says.
tim pool
That is so creepy.
The problem is, When, like, if you had one chicken that was killing the other chickens, this happens.
You have to remove it, because it's a dumb animal that doesn't understand why what it's doing is bad and not helping.
Humans arguing with other humans about why they think their ideology and population management is the right plan.
It's the same thing.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
You know, Bill Gates, when he does this Ted talk, he is not some like, you know, uh, intergalactic Q like figure, you know, the Star Trek Q who's omnipotent and knows how to help and guide humanity.
He's just another person who's limited by the same news and information we get.
ian crossland
Is that why these elites are into the occult?
It's because they're trying to get information from other dimensions of intelligence so that they're no longer chicken consciousness?
tim pool
Maybe, but that's just more evidence to me that they're not right.
We don't know who has all the answers.
You mentioned you're talking about trust, like if a zombie apocalypse happened.
Why should I trust that Bill Gates, a guy who sold software, understands what it takes to manage 8 billion people?
Or if he wants $500 million, whatever, the Georgia Guidestones, whatever.
If you actually take his TED talk for what it is, he's saying, we don't want to get to 9 billion people, so we need to implement a bunch of poverty control measures and then help everybody out.
He does talk about making everyone's lives better, giving them better housing and stuff like that.
I genuinely think he believes this stuff when he says, we want to improve the lives of everybody.
The problem is we have seen what happens when we run down that yellow brick road from utopians saying, this is the way to get better life and better living.
And then it turns out it's a mass grave or a killing field or something like that.
Why should I trust them?
benjamin stewart
It is pretty interesting.
I mean, like the, the proper management of the entire population.
I've been thinking about that because, you know, really it's such a philosophical rabbit hole you can go into.
Like, what is proper?
If you think you've figured it out, then what you would want to do is just lay out the plan and get people to comply no matter what.
And that really seems like the world today.
Get people to comply.
You know, like, you know, offer them burgers and fries.
Get them to comply no matter what.
tim pool
Wait, they did that in New York!
benjamin stewart
I know.
The thing is, this might seem unrelated, but I have three kids at home.
They're young.
My daughter Ana Laura might be watching.
So I was talking with this guy, Charles Eisenstein.
I was just on a trip with him.
And we were just talking about when is it time to get a babysitter.
And I said, My wife, she's so good with the kids that sometimes she doesn't know when to allow herself a vacation and to go.
And so Charles was like, maybe say to her, instead of saying, like, babe, you just need to get it.
You need to do that.
That's more of the, like, I'm telling you what I know is right for you to do.
Maybe, like, incentivize her in a way by saying, I trust your intuition on when it's the right time.
And you're calling her to step into her higher intelligence, her higher potential.
And so, to me, when I say, like, properly managing people, I don't know what to say about the population thing.
I really don't.
But what I do say is, how do people behave when they're told what to do?
I know how my children behave, and I'm not going to make a one-to-one correlation between humanity and my children, but I am saying, like, I think there may be more proper ways.
So, I do believe Bill Gates isn't probably sitting there with his fingers like, you know, I just want people to rot and die.
No, I don't believe that.
I believe that a lot of these people actually think, like, man, this world is going to be so great.
They'll come around.
Even the people who don't like it, they'll come around.
I kind of feel like maybe that's more true, but what is the more proper way to get people to step into their potential rather than, oh, well, you know, why are you eating that way?
Oh, I was told to eat this way.
Well, why are you exercising right?
And I was told, you know, why do you live here?
I was told.
tim pool
That's everything though.
You know, our whole worlds are based off of information we've collected that we trust.
And once you get to a certain age and your brain sort of solidifies and fully develops, you assert those things as true to you.
And when people challenge those, you have a nervous breakdown.
This is why people get really angry.
There's a lot of people who aren't into politics, and I'm sure many people who are listening have experienced this.
You'll be talking to someone calmly and rationally, and you'll say, look, Joe Biden fumbled and bumbled and then compared the Tuskegee Airmen to people with syphilis.
They'll start getting really angry.
Because what you're doing is, their brain has locked in place.
These are the ideas I know to be true.
Why do I know them to be true?
Because I have survived this long, and if I hold these things throughout my life to be true, my survival rate is better than if I don't.
So when you go in and start picking apart their worldview, Yeah.
you are telling them what they're doing is wrong and dangerous and they have to
defend themselves from that they they have they have
survived this long they will not let you tear up tear that those ideas apart
so there's an emotional mechanism when people get angry they don't process information the
same way so people just go to an emotional state they get mad they
won't talk to you they shut down
benjamin stewart
a different part of the brain It's more ancient.
And, you know, what you're mentioning right there, it takes me back to all those beautiful, on-the-African-safari images where, let's say, a couple lions are hunting down, you know, one of the smaller, whatever, you know... Gazelles?
Something like that, those bigger, maybe the water buffalo, that run in big herds, so they're going after one of the little ones, and they feel safer in the pack.
Even though there's three lions, and literally, let's say, 150 of these huge massive beasts, but they will let one of their young die, because the rest of them are like, we can lose one, we're safer in the numbers.
Most people that I know, they're not seeking truth.
That's why they have their brains seizing up is because they're seeking safety.
They're not seeking truth.
ian crossland
It makes me think how you were saying about your wife and how to inspire her to be able to handle the kids.
It's like creating a leader as opposed to telling her what to do and creating a follower.
There's a danger sociologically to making everyone a leader, because especially like in the military, if everyone in the squad is trying to lead the squad, nothing's going to get done, everyone's going to die.
So you have one leader, everyone else follows.
And sociologically, I think that's part of why psychedelics are illegal, because it makes you think for yourself and make decisions for yourself outside of external influence, for the most part, more so than not.
benjamin stewart
It can in the right setting, but I see where you're going with that.
But I mean, it can also be used by the CIA in different ways.
tim pool
Here's a thought.
benjamin stewart
It was sprayed over France and people were hospitalized in it and it wasn't even seen that LSD was sprayed over France.
People thought that it was in the drinking water or they were dying or something like that.
tim pool
There's a couple ideas in terms of global control I want to mention.
If there really is a very powerful dominant group and YouTube is playing ball with them, and seems like to a certain degree YouTube is at least following some kind of establishment narrative, if the narrative is actually controlled, then you have to assume that the success of this channel and TimCast.com is allowed to happen.
Or, I think the simple solution is there's probably powerful elites with interests.
They align with other powerful interests.
They use their weight to get what they want at a disproportionate level than most people.
So birds of a feather flock together.
But we're still free.
And we're still challenging the system.
There's still a resistance.
I think it's more natural order like the pharaohs of Egypt.
group and the Great Reset or groups like Blackstone, it may just be a flash in the pan.
It may be that in this generation, some very wealthy people have made some moves because
wealthy people make massive waves and they may not succeed.
We move on and people...
ian crossland
I think it's more natural order like the pharaohs of Egypt.
This goes way back to the power control structure and then they form corporations so that they
don't have to take personal responsibility for the control and now they can reap the
benefits without suffering the bankruptcy.
That's my personal feeling is that it's always been like this.
benjamin stewart
Oh, yeah.
You know, I mean like so that's been my feeling as well is that this is a lot older than just
what we're hearing about right now.
We probably shouldn't go into that right now.
But I do feel...
I do feel like it's obvious what you're saying, like the future is unwritten, and we still do have freedoms.
I know, I feel it, I sense it when I go out to the store.
Yes, there's something going on in the world right now, but it's not where most people think we are, but I mean, you look at what's going on in Australia right now, it's looking pretty grim.
tim pool
But do you have freedoms?
The point is, if you are really to believe that these powerful wealthy interests, look, we know they exist.
I'm not saying there's like a secret cabal of people wearing red velvet robes meeting underground somewhere and chanting to each other or like, you know, going to some, like, going up to some grove and worshiping a giant owl statue.
ian crossland
Yeah, like a bohemian grove or something.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm not saying anything like that!
benjamin stewart
I've never been invited to that party.
I went to Burning Man.
tim pool
There are rich people.
Rich people have conferences together.
They have meetings together.
They're friends with each other.
Naturally, one guy from one industry is going to be like, here's my plan.
The other guy says, oh, that works for me.
So these things exist.
But if we're going to operate under the assumption that they did have total control, like they could go to YouTube and say, shut these channels down, then is it really freedom When they're just like, yeah, don't ban that Tim Pool guy.
Let him keep doing his thing, it's good.
You know what he did?
What I really like?
He had some guy on, this Ben Stewart guy who said a bunch of crazy stuff, and then because we were able to identify him, we nuked his channel.
See what I mean?
benjamin stewart
Yeah, I see what you're saying with the freedoms thing, and freedom is not to get too philosophical here, but like, it depends on whether you're talking about freedoms that are socially agreed upon, or the freedom I claim for myself and I just behave upon.
And for the most part, like, it all seems like it's being trampled on, but that also seems like history to me.
I can see that we are, in many ways, so much better off today than any other time in history.
Like, I know a lot of people that are like, I would love to just live, you know, go back to nature.
And I think that's such a romantic idea until you realize what mosquitoes are like when you live in nature.
tim pool
And what you gotta wipe your butt with.
benjamin stewart
At what water is like, you gotta worry about amoebas and stuff, you're boiling everything.
We love our conveniences, and this is where I'm at, is I think we're close to where we want to be.
There's a lot of hiccups, and I think there's always been this grab for power, and we've never been so close to globalism.
We've never been so close to globalism, unless you take a look at what Graham Hancock and people are saying about the ancient, ancient past.
ian crossland
Atlantis!
unidentified
Right.
ian crossland
But I think now it's even more.
benjamin stewart
We're going through stuff today that is like, really, 10, 15 years ago, only a fraction of the population could even wrap their heads around.
So I think we're close.
I mean, we all have phones.
I remember saying, I'm never getting a cell phone.
And guess how long it took me to actually get a cell phone?
Two years.
Not even.
Not even.
I was in the band and I needed to keep in contact with them.
And then I was like, I don't ever need to get a smartphone.
I'm going to keep this Nokia.
I'm going to keep this flip phone.
And it just, it just happened.
tim pool
Angry Birds came out, man.
And you watch your friend play Angry Birds and you're like, dude.
benjamin stewart
How was I gonna know where the Pokemon were going without my smartphone?
ian crossland
Dude, I played the original Final Fantasy on my cell phone and put it on double speed so I beat the game in twice as fast.
benjamin stewart
Hey, whenever somebody asks me a question and I don't know it, I pray to Google and divinely I get that answer.
ian crossland
All you gotta do is ask.
benjamin stewart
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
You ever see that Star Trek episode where they go to this planet where the people are really dumb, don't know how to do anything because their ancestors built this supercomputer that took care of their lives for them?
And so then, I may be forgetting the episode, but basically what happens is, like, they can't have kids anymore.
Something's happening.
So they try and kidnap kids from the enterprise.
But basically, it's like, what was brilliant about The Next Generation is it showed you the philosophical consequences of certain ideologies, technological advancements, and systems of government.
In this instance, you had people who were managed by a computer within several generations, had no idea how to do anything, and just became completely helpless.
benjamin stewart
We're getting there as well.
tim pool
There's a story I love.
A story I love.
I read a long time ago about a family on a beach when a black wolf walked up on the beach and the family panicked and ran into the water and climbed on a rock, you know, 15 or 20 feet out.
And the wolf just paced back and forth staring at them while the dad, the wife, and the two kids were like huddled together crying and terrified.
And I think about that story and I'm like, maybe it's romanticizing the past, but I'd imagine if this was hundreds of years ago, the dad would have been wearing thick leathers and had a sword on him.
And he would have pulled out a sword and said, family, get back.
And then he would have like prepared or would have had a spear or a shield or something.
Now we walk around in like thin cotton shirts.
We're not prepared for fighting at all.
benjamin stewart
Asking where the police are.
I totally agree.
I also look at it archetypally.
What is timeless?
As things advance, like technology, we are giving up, we're outsourcing a lot of our thinking.
People are saying, we don't even know how to do math in our heads, we've got calculators.
You know what?
I'm okay with that.
I was never that into math.
Maybe some people want to know math and guess what?
The existence of a calculator doesn't mean you can't learn math.
So there's certain things I'm happy to give up for the conveniences of them because I've felt where my center is and where I want my time and attention to go.
So I'm down with outsourcing.
GPS is causing us to forget how to navigate.
Perhaps, perhaps, but I don't feel like I've lost how to navigate just because of GPS, but I'll tell you what it has done.
I hopped in my car this morning thinking, oh man, I might be late for this, for this, um, uh, flight to get here.
And I just threw on my GPS.
It got me straight there.
It told me right when I would get there.
It told me exactly how to get into the, uh, the parking garage.
Like it makes some things easier.
It's not just the world is getting worse and we're becoming super dumb.
You have agency.
tim pool
Let's go back to the chickens.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
So the chickens are taking a dump in all their water, and people on this show say, Tim, buy the nipple water thing.
And so I go on Amazon and I order it.
I have no idea what's happening after that.
The signal gets sent to a warehouse or something, some guy starts pulling something out of a box.
The chickens have no idea what's going on.
One day, it just shows up, and their life is changed, and their water is now clean, and they probably don't even understand what clean water means, to be completely honest.
The reason I bring this up again is imagine this.
You mentioned we're forgetting how to do things.
Oh, the calculator, you know, we forgot how to do math and the GPS, we forgot how to navigate.
We may be the chicken sitting there just clueless and there may be, I don't know, maybe there's some like rich billionaire who's planning on integrating computers into our brains with something he would call, what would be a good name for something like a link to your neurons, like a neural link.
Yeah, maybe there's a billionaire.
benjamin stewart
Chicken chip.
tim pool
Chicken chip.
Maybe while we're sitting here being like, look what this technology is doing, it's removing our ability to do these things.
Maybe Elon Musk is like that chicken water thing already on its way to solve some problem.
We may be concerned about how the technology is affecting us and then neural link happens and you just said it how
long did it take You to get the cell phone?
Yeah when neural link comes out and then everyone just gets it
and they're gonna be like, yo, just uh, you know Link me the information for the show and you're like, oh, I
don't got link It's like bro. Let me just link in real quick and I'll have
him tell you and then you're like, I'll get a link Hold on. I'll triangulate
We're all together and then like there was actually an outer limits about this where there were like Wi-Fi nodes
everywhere and people had it It was called the stream where they had instant access to
the network So they just knew they if they need to know something they
just would like think and then it would be transmitted to them
So imagine Neuralink becomes ubiquitous and you're like, I'm not getting that Neuralink thing.
And then you're trying to go to the movies and your friends are like, dude, I'm going to drive because I don't want it.
I want you getting lost with your stupid GPS.
Like that's ridiculous.
I just know where to go.
benjamin stewart
Right.
tim pool
And then you go, okay, fine, dude, whatever.
And then you go to like, you know, Neuralink mobile and they're like, it's a quick and painless procedure.
We just, you know, click it right into the back of your neck and then boom, you're linked up.
ian crossland
The other guy would be like, bro, I already got the upgrade.
I already saw the movie.
You know what I mean?
I see it before it even comes out, man.
I've seen every movie.
tim pool
You guys want to see Fast and the Furious 15?
Yeah.
ian crossland
That was good.
You're out for like six seconds because time is kind of irrelevant.
tim pool
Dude, when Vin Diesel, he's like in the walker and then he like throws it and fights the guy and the guy's got a cane.
benjamin stewart
Yeah, well, I wonder what people, because, so Terrell McSweeney, I think it was, she worked under Obama and Biden.
I think it's Terrell McSweeney.
It was like in 2017, she was talking about the Internet of Bodies and brain machine interfaces.
And she was saying, well, the first thing we really need to figure out is, innovation
is way ahead of regulation.
And what that means is, what happens if you have like your mojo vision, which gives you
a heads up display in your eye, it's implanted in your eye, and it goes defunct?
Who takes it out?
What if that company folds?
Who is liable to take that technology out?
So there's a bunch of that kind of stuff.
Plus, with the brain machine interfaces, if you can, because they were already talking
about what about people with tendencies, I wonder if I can even mention that word, but
like bad, bad tendencies.
Can you suppress their tendencies?
Do you have the right to suppress their tendencies?
Do you have the right to introduce different memories, you know?
And these are things that literally this woman was talking about in front of a board saying we need to figure out how to regulate it because guess what?
It's already on its way.
So, like, my thoughts behind that are, you know, like, it's very interesting when we're talking about technology.
I think we talked about this last time because there was this book called What Technology Wants.
And this guy was saying, it's very likely that no matter how many times you rewind history and play it again, we'll always come up with technology.
Evolution will always produce humans and humans will always produce technology, especially at a certain population density.
So the interesting thing is, is like, and I'm not going to get, you know, spiritual or religious here, but for people who believe that we are all connected in some way, shape, or form, where does God not exist?
Like technology, you know, like we call it blasphemous because we can't wrap our heads around the fact that this could be evolutionary.
This could be the, you know, and I'm not saying where we're at in tech.
I'm going to get so many people telling me like, like, bro, 5G and blah, blah, blah.
I'm saying like, no, where technology is at today is super rudimentary.
I wouldn't implant anything in my head.
I can't foresee that.
Mainly because the trust thing.
I don't trust the reception, the vibrations, the frequencies that it uses.
I don't trust who would be on the other side of it.
There's some trust issues I'd need to get over.
But the thing is, is like, at the end of the day, if it were benevolent, if it were, let's just say, hypothetically, Would you allow a technology that, let's say, could even be therapeutic to you, be not even implanted in you?
Because some people are saying, bro, you're not going to need to implant it.
There are technologies that can be a couple inches away from your skull and still get the same neuronal agonist.
It'll transmit and light up the right parts of the brain.
You know, my words are failing.
ian crossland
I like agonist.
tim pool
Did you, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the eye evolve on Earth like four different times independently?
benjamin stewart
Six.
I think it was six different times in the Cambrian era or something like that.
tim pool
Independently.
benjamin stewart
Independently.
And that's just one example.
In this book, they were talking about how, like, you would still get, no matter how many times, even on a different planet, it would make sense that you would have symmetrical beings where the DNA doesn't need to be so robust that, like, just copy most of the left side to the right side.
DNA doesn't have to be super jacked to be able to do that.
On several different continents, evolving separately, there were similar things.
Bipedal, fingered, you know, creatures where their heads are, you know, erect six, five, six feet above the ground.
It makes sense to have that, right?
tim pool
So, this is really interesting when you get into religion.
And simulation theory, which I feel like the simplest form of simulation theory is very rudimentary religion in general.
The idea of a more advanced or powerful entity or whatever creating everything.
But when you talk about technology as part of evolution, I've long thought about that, like, it's inevitable.
And it may literally just be that... Let me slow down.
Life evolved through this competition, this back and forth.
Evolution isn't linear, right?
Gazelle evolved to run faster because lions are fast and eat them, and the lions have to be faster, and then eventually you get different cats.
All of these things happen until eventually something emerges out of this adaptation that bypasses the evolutionary process.
Intelligence.
An instant, knowledge-based adaptation.
Before adaptation required generations of life to emerge.
You had to have a baby, the baby was slightly different.
A bunch of flies would get too hot and die, but the ones that survived could survive hotter temperatures.
Well, then along came humans, with the ability to instantly manipulate their own environments.
With this, humans have basically told evolution, ya done.
Because what happens when the lion shows up?
The humans invent the spear, and the lion can't get close.
Eventually, humans invent guns, and then they own everything.
Too hot?
Humans invent air conditioning, and now they survive longer in the summer.
Too cold?
They invent heaters, now they survive longer in the winter.
The technology was the next level of evolution, where a mind evolved to understand and manipulate the environment with the right appendages for fine-tuning fingers, fingernails, all that stuff.
And now the next step is going to be we create artificial intelligence in life, And perhaps, I was reading this, I can't remember who wrote this, there were some scientists who said, their prediction for life is that humans will create artificial intelligence that self-replicates, and near the heat death of the universe, there will be supercomputers flowing around for billions of years, collecting loose electrons, and after hundreds upon hundreds of billions of years, connect them and replicate and keep going.
benjamin stewart
Hmm, yeah.
What's interesting is you actually mentioned something that's in the book, What Technology Wants, and it's how evolution happens and spurts and fits and stuff like that, but where the similar things have evolved on different continents, There's sometimes like something will jump ahead, but there seems to be a sequence in evolution.
And some things will jump ahead, but not far ahead in evolution.
But once you get to humans, the interesting thing you mentioned about how we change our environment, you guys know with plants, like the phenotype is what the environment does to the genes, what the environment pulls from the genes.
So when we change our environment, we are automatically changing the phenotypic expression of our genes, which we know turns epigenetic.
We know we pass that down.
And the only difference is with technology.
Technology can radically jump farther.
It doesn't have to follow the same sequence of slow evolution.
You have to go through this step to get to that step to get to that step.
Technology can make leaps and bounds, different strides.
Discoveries.
Yeah.
tim pool
The discovery of the charged electromagnetic spectrum created a wave of new technologies.
The discovery of petroleum, within what decades we made petrochemicals and plastics and just changed everything.
Plastics really, really were revolutionary.
All of a sudden we could make this moldable hard substance that allowed us to make so much more than we normally could.
benjamin stewart
Did you see what George Carlin said about plastic?
tim pool
No, what did he say?
benjamin stewart
What if the only reason why the earth even created humans was to get plastic?
Didn't want the humans, wanted plastic.
tim pool
Yeah, and something had to make it.
benjamin stewart
Something, you know?
And here's our demise, and what's going to be left over?
All that plastic in the Mariana Trench.
tim pool
You know what trips me out?
We have decoy ducks.
You put a little wooden duck in the pond and the ducks come up to it and they're like, what up girl?
But they're talking to a wooden block.
What if aliens have decoy humans and we can't tell them apart?
I mentioned the chickens thing because I think it's a really good analogy.
Chickens, they know me, sort of.
I go in there and I do stuff and they're confused and scared and always staring at me.
But they have no concept of cars or anything like this.
benjamin stewart
Right.
tim pool
To them, it doesn't exist, as far as they're concerned.
It's just weird nonsense.
We see a bunch of weird nonsense all the time.
We talk about the mysteries and the paranormal.
Imagine this.
We're sitting here going like, dude, I had a friend and, like, he once, like, turned the corner and there was a large shadow figure.
Whoa.
And it's the same as the chicken being, like, a giant thing with, like, these things that were round were, like, growling at me and it was, like, the craziest thing.
It was this giant rock With growling!
You know, that's like us.
We have no idea what we're talking about.
And from what we know, the aliens are looking at us like dumb chickens, going like, giant rock!
Screams!
benjamin stewart
Ah!
Yeah, yeah.
What's funny is how much we can all witness the same thing, but if you're not ready to see what you're seeing, your mind will fill in the blanks differently than the person right next to you.
tim pool
You know that legend of when Christopher Columbus was coming to the Bahamas or the Korean?
The natives couldn't see the boats.
You ever hear that?
So, for those that aren't familiar, have you heard this?
Yeah, I've heard this.
So, because their brains had no concept of large vessels, they would look up from the horizon and completely... It was there, like they could physically see it, but their brains didn't process it.
They ignored the information.
And it wasn't until... This is how the legend goes.
One of the elders noticed the wave patterns changing, looked up at where the wave pattern was coming from, and said, there's something weird there.
And then told people, look at the weird thing, and they're like, what, what?
It's like it's right there, and they're like...
Oh, there is a weird thing there.
So I remember hearing about that story, and so I always, whenever I'm driving on road trips, in one instance I'm with my friend, and it's a field.
We're like driving across a great plain, and there's a big cell phone tower.
Massive gray tower with blinking lights and the crazy antennas.
And I said, look, what do you see?
What's right there?
And my friend's like, what are you pointing at?
I'm like, what do you see right ahead of us?
We're coming up on it.
And they're like, there's nothing there.
What are you talking about?
And I'm like, dude, people never think about cell phone towers.
They don't know what they are.
It's not relevant to them.
It's out of sight, out of mind.
So I was like, there is a tower right there.
They're like, what are you talking about?
I'm like big gray tower, blinking lights.
And they're like, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
lydia smith
Shouldn't see it at all.
tim pool
Because they're like, I don't know what I'm looking for.
I don't know what you're talking about.
ian crossland
It's part of what psychedelics just totally changed me because when I would take like psilocybin, every outline of each piece of thing I would look at and see, like, I would notice all the things that I'm familiar, like familiarity bias, that I gloss over, that I'm desensitized to in natural order.
With these medicines or whatever you want to call these chemicals, I'm like very observant of the pieces and angles and shapes of my surroundings.
tim pool
They say that when the scientists, like they put a bunch of scientists in a room and they were microdosing on LSD or whatever, that they were able to see the things they were normally overlooking.
So it's like the idea, I guess, was because our brains are rooted in this routine, in this pattern, and we have expectations, it's hard for us to see things that don't matter to us.
lydia smith
I think it's more of a case of survival, because Jordan Peterson talks about this a little bit.
He's like, if you notice everything that's going on around you all the time, it's incredibly distracting, and you're going to lose your ability to determine where there's possibly danger coming from.
benjamin stewart
Yeah, there's a filter.
Was it Aldous Huxley who said, it blows the doors of perception wide open?
We, our nervous system would be like on edge all the time if we noticed everything.
We have these, the raffine nuclei in the back of the brain and they light up when we detect novelty, something new.
And a lot of the times, most of the times, it's if you're ready to see something.
And sometimes not.
You know, we know that.
Sometimes we do see something that we're not ready for.
But the interesting thing with psychedelics is, I think, more the auditory and the things that aren't just visual.
We always talk about what we see, but you ever listen to music?
on a psychedelic or you feel like one hair touching your face and it amplifies what you're experiencing.
And so, like, a lot of what I love about the more traditional ways of doing it is they
have a set and setting that empirically for thousands and thousands of years, they have
it set up in this way.
And it might seem really silly and dumb to blow tobacco smoke over somebody's head and,
you know, tap them on the head over and over again with a feather or something along those
lines while singing a song.
But you know what, like in those ceremonies, those are the most profound moments.
It's not like, you know, it's not, you know, just these wild kaleidoscopic things that
It's usually the insights you glean about yourself and how the music got you there, how the smell of the tobacco got you there.
It's all contextual as well, and that's why I said when you were saying these psychedelics can open you up to a new world.
I think there's something about the pharmaceuticalization of psychedelics that they're even saying, can we take out the psychedelic experience but still get the effects of Iboga?
Like, you know, how Iboga or Ibogaine is getting people off of opioid addictions and stuff like that.
Can we just take out the psychedelic?
Because people, that scares too many people.
And all the major, like Dennis McKenna is saying, these are ordeal medicines.
They heal people by what they make you face on the inside.
tim pool
We gotta go to Super Chats.
unidentified
Let's do it.
tim pool
But for completely no reason, I just want to mention two paranormal experiences that I've had in my life, just because it's fun.
unidentified
Let's do it.
tim pool
The first was, these both happened when I was relatively young, when I was probably like 13 or 14.
And I remember one day I woke up in my bed and there were,
there were like black silhouette figures walking past my door.
And it was like three in the morning.
And I remember seeing that and then getting freaked out.
It was like shadow people, people who experienced sleep paralysis
explain similar things.
I've had that.
And then I just decided to lay back and like sleep on my side and keep my eyes closed
and just go back to sleep and ignore it.
When it felt like one of these figures walked up and stood next to my bed and was just standing there.
And I could hear like the footsteps and feel like the presence.
Like, like you could just, you just know.
And I'm just sitting there like my eyes closed.
I'm like, I'm going to ignore this.
Probably a really dumb thing to do because like imagine if someone broke into my house
and I'm like, I'm going to pretend like it's not happening.
So I don't know, maybe that's all it was.
Maybe someone broke into my house in the middle of the night, and that's something simple.
But, the other experience I had, when I was about the same age, I was laying in my bed, and I woke up around 2 or 3 in the morning, clearly woke up, and I sleep on my side, and I rolled over on my left side, and on the floor, I saw what looks like a very, very intense reflection of water.
So you ever see, like, a pool, and then when light hits it, there's, like, the weird waves in the ceiling?
Imagine that.
Imagine it, like, two feet by two feet, but intensely bright.
It was this, like, pulsating, and that sent shivers down my spine.
I panicked, rolled over to the other side, and just, like, started sweating profusely.
I'm going back to bed.
I'm going back to bed.
I don't know what that is.
I don't know what I'm looking at.
I don't want to get up.
I'm scared.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Hmm.
Creepy.
lydia smith
It's like a portal.
tim pool
I don't know what it was.
ian crossland
When you wake, I saw infrared light one time when I woke up.
I had my phone like right here and I woke up and I saw the light going in.
It looked like it was going into the phone and I felt my brain like twist and the light went in and it was gone.
I didn't see it.
And I was like, Oh, I wish I could still.
Like your mind's in another place when you're sleeping.
tim pool
Let's jump to Super Chats.
benjamin stewart
Let's definitely do that.
I just want to say your brain produces drugs.
tim pool
Yes.
ian crossland
DMT.
benjamin stewart
And 5-MeO, DMT, dopamine, cannabinoids, I mean, PCP analog.
Your brain's got a lot of drugs.
I mean, we're all Holden.
tim pool
Internally in our brains.
All right, we're gonna go to Super Chats if you haven't already.
Smash the like button and go to TimCast.com.
Become a member because we are gonna have a very dark and serious bonus segment coming up.
benjamin stewart
With a little music.
tim pool
With a little music, that's right.
To lighten the mood before we get into the scary If each of you could have the powers of any video game character, who would it be?
Like, wait, wait, we'll save that one, and you might know where we're gonna go,
but YouTube would nuke us in two seconds.
So we'll keep this one for the members.
And let's read some of these super chats.
Don't forget, smash that like button, get your super chats in while you can.
Name Surname says, "'If each of you could have the powers
of any video game character, who would it be?' I wanna be Super Hot Guy."
benjamin stewart
Super Hot Guy.
tim pool
Video game character, super powers.
benjamin stewart
Man, I mean, I feel like you, you mentioned Zelda, and I know Zelda wasn't the guy,
but I think I would choose Zelda.
ian crossland
Oh, Link?
tim pool
Zelda's got powers.
benjamin stewart
That's what I'd be.
ian crossland
What's her power?
benjamin stewart
I'd be Zelda.
ian crossland
Zelda's the princess.
benjamin stewart
Are you telling me I can't be a princess?
ian crossland
Okay, hey!
Hands off!
tim pool
You're Zelda!
Zelda, she turns into Sheik.
It's like her alter ego.
And she can throw needles.
And then she has the little grappling hook and the string bombs and stuff.
And Zelda herself can teleport.
ian crossland
I think I would pick Nash.
benjamin stewart
I'm in.
I'm total Zelda.
ian crossland
I'd pick Nash from Lunar the Silver Star.
He's a lightning mage.
Although I do like healing powers, but I think commanding lightning is pretty exciting.
lydia smith
I'd say Lode Runner.
unidentified
I can dissolve bricks in front of me and to my left or right, but not below me, to trap creatures that are chasing me which they then climb out of the hole.
lydia smith
I would eat berries, yeah.
tim pool
I'd say, uh, Lode Runner.
I can dissolve bricks in front of me and to my left or right, but not below me, to trap
creatures that are chasing me, which they then climb out of the hole.
I'm kidding, I have no idea.
Lode Runner's pretty cool.
benjamin stewart
I don't know.
tim pool
Crash Bandicoot.
You can spin really fast and break bricks or something.
Mario can jump really high.
I got I gotta admit Mario's a good power Yoshi. I'd be Yoshi Yoshi Mario can can jump really high
What do they say that eats mushrooms?
He can jump 21 feet when when you when you take the size of Mario on
Nintendo and then calculate how high he jumps they like mapped it out and said it's about 21 feet if Mario is the
average height You know
They said if he was like 5'6 or something.
benjamin stewart
Interesting.
tim pool
He's jumping like 21 feet and he can punch bricks and they explode and shatter.
benjamin stewart
It's true.
tim pool
He shatters bricks with a fist, throws fire, and then he puts on that cat suit and plays around like a furry.
benjamin stewart
I like his wardrobe.
ian crossland
It's pretty cool.
tim pool
His wardrobe's alright.
ian crossland
He has cool friends too.
unidentified
I like him.
tim pool
All right.
Jimmy Quinto says, who's ready for this upcoming market crash in July?
ian crossland
I mean, I'm as ready as I can be.
I don't know.
How do you feel about that, Ben?
benjamin stewart
Man, you know what?
I was reading something right before coming here, wondering whether it's true or not.
It was a supposedly declassified document about a lockdown coming in the UK with talking about specific years on what shortages are coming in what years.
I won't go any deeper than that.
Yeah, I mean, buy food, learn how to grow food, maybe learn how to treat water, and get to know your neighbors.
Do a couple push-ups.
lydia smith
Good advice.
unidentified
There you go.
tim pool
Splitting Wave says, Dinosaur fossils are creatures buried in Noah's flood.
God declared he would never again destroy the world with water.
Next time it will be fire.
Enter the ark through the door that is Jesus Christ.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
I don't know about all that.
benjamin stewart
Aren't there aliens under Denver International Airport, I heard?
ian crossland
That is the word on the street.
tim pool
Yeah.
I mean, that's a really old conspiracy theory.
You know, it's fun and silly.
benjamin stewart
I lived in Boulder and I went to DIA.
I've never seen a dinosaur, but there's some weird stuff there.
Those murals are pretty interesting.
ian crossland
Gigantic caverns under the surface of earth.
We've only been like eight miles deep and apparently like these ancient aquifers that are now emptied, like could have microbial life, mush, spore life.
It could have animal life.
I mean, we really don't know.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
The Mad Machina says Biden is Jar Jar Binks, convincing the republic to cede power to the
government by being hapless. Harris is Anakin. Pelosi is probably the emperor. Yeah?
lydia smith
Schumer.
tim pool
Clef the Misfit says, let's finally get this Star Wars analogy correct.
Biden is Palpatine and Kamala is Darth Vader.
Trump was Mace Windu, but has been defeated and Order 66 has been ordered.
Luke Skywalker is Ron DeSantis.
Actually, that is a better analogy.
Order 66, they're like, you know, the war on terror is coming home.
They're going to go after the militias and all that.
benjamin stewart
So this guy's saying, I assume it's a guy, I'm sorry, that Kamala is going to bring balance to the force.
lydia smith
I don't think so.
tim pool
Yeah, but it wasn't in a good way.
Like bringing balance to the force meant killing all the Jedi.
benjamin stewart
This is true.
tim pool
There were like two left, I guess.
ian crossland
Very disturbing.
benjamin stewart
All right.
tim pool
Although you know what one of the problems is?
They say bring balance to the force because they're like two, like, so the idea is like, aha, there were two Sith, so then all the Jedi are wiped out except for like Obi-Wan and, you know, Yoda, Yoda, I guess.
Except now we learn in the Extended Universe, like Ahsoka, well not even Extended, it's like, it's canon.
Ahsoka survived.
ian crossland
Oh, Disney upsetting the balance?
How odd.
lydia smith
Imagine that.
unidentified
Jerks.
tim pool
All right, Jonathan Bagus says, Hey Tim, I sent you a pitch earlier, but it turned into a resume.
So here's the pitch.
A weekly D&D game that explores dynamic political, cultural, and socioeconomic environments, vibrant enough to elicit questions and conversations from your politically savvy audience.
Done.
We will hire the game master immediately.
Send your resumes to jobs at timcast.com.
Here's the idea.
You have one week to come up with a simple-to-play scenario, predetermined characters, maybe do like four, maybe five characters.
You'll give people their character sheets.
We need a Game Master who knows politics, who's a big fan of Stargate, Star Trek, and what's... people mentioned Farscape.
What are some other good... I've never seen it.
Sci-fi, Firefly, obviously Star Wars.
People who understand questions around philosophy, technology, quantum physics, battle star galactica.
Because then what we do is we have this game master create scenarios and then you create characters with certain strengths and weaknesses, have them play out the scenario and see how it turns out.
benjamin stewart
I like that.
I would love to play- Is this a drinking game?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
That is definitely optional.
It's gotta be fun and silly and hilarious.
benjamin stewart
I like it.
tim pool
Where someone's like the emperor and they're like, I'm executing the peasants!
Give me the drink!
I'm drink!
ian crossland
Roll fortitude save and roll initiative.
unidentified
It's like natural 20 and everyone's been wiped out!
tim pool
Game's over!
ian crossland
I would love to use D&D 3.5, but I'm open to 5.0 because it's easier.
It's easier to play.
It's very, very smooth, but I love 3.5.
It's a little more complicated.
tim pool
You think like in a week someone could create a different scenario every week. That would be fun. Yeah. Sorry in
there We're a good writer. Yeah, and it would explore it would
explore like okay in this scenario You're on the Death Star and you your janitor and the
rebels are coming to blow it up. There's this You save the Death Star because you're like there's
ian crossland
millions of janitors. There's like a Planescape I think was a D&D game where you there's this
realm where there's all these portals that take you to other
dimensions of possibility.
So every episode could be through another portal, and then we could be in another realm.
We could be in different bodies.
benjamin stewart
Imagine the conversation that would come up around this.
tim pool
I think that's pretty... There'd need to be some like, you know, okay, too much talking, not enough playing, but... I had an idea for a video game, and I'll just give it away for free because it's been a decade.
But the idea was, it's an open world game, like GTA or Fallout or whatever, and you play the game normally Monday through Friday, collecting items, trying to survive.
It's like a normal world like GTA, you can get arrested.
But on Friday nights, at 7pm, an apocalypse happens.
And it's a random apocalypse every week.
So what would happen is, you would develop, say, 13 scenarios, then once the game is ready to launch, every Friday you would do a different scenario, and then there would be a repeat.
So, I'll be like, randomized.
So imagine this, you're playing a game, you collect a bunch of bottles of water and food and you get some guns, then Friday happens and you're like, 7pm, everyone's sitting there playing the game, counting down, and it's like 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, the moon explodes.
ian crossland
Dude, you speak to me.
tim pool
Tsunamis happen firestorm. So here's the goal of the game next week. You're what you're counting down and all sudden
boom Zombies start coming out from the alleyways
The idea is catching people off guard and then after the scenario ends on Sunday
Who survived the weekend because you you die you're out for the weekend and then you come back on Monday and you start
fresh and Then what we do is we count we analyze the data and say
when the zombies attacked 67.3% of people ran out with no weapons are punching
zombies and most of them died, you know 12.3% hit in the basement for the whole weekend.
Congratulations. You survived and you barely played the game
You can track that kind of stuff.
There's also scenarios you can do where you're counting down to 7pm and all of a sudden, boom, your guy, it says you've been enlisted.
You are now a member of the military.
A revolution is breaking out.
Half the people are chosen to be revolutionaries.
Half the people are chosen to be the military.
ian crossland
You turn and look at your friend, right?
He's sitting right next to you.
unidentified
Yup.
tim pool
And then it's like, what do you do?
And then people would have no idea what's to come.
And then we would just show people the stats of like how people responded to this apocalypse.
benjamin stewart
It's interesting because you'll get into all the different kinds of strategies because most people think, you know, like, oh man, a big event's coming, let's prepare this way.
And this will really tease out some of the nuances of what certain kinds of preparation will actually be good and which ones may not.
tim pool
Cause imagine this, imagine like you have no idea what's going to happen and then a tsunami hits and everybody who was just on the lower floors is just wiped out.
90% of people are wiped out without even realizing it.
And they're like, dude, and then they go in spectator mode and they're watching, like they're watching streams of people or they're watching other people.
And there was a dude who just decided to climb on top of a building and he was chilling and now he's on top of the building.
Like, what do we do now?
But then let's say someone climbs the top of the building and then a massive storm hits and then he gets blown away.
Like you have no idea what's going to happen.
ian crossland
We should call the game preparation.
unidentified
H. Preparation H, yeah.
tim pool
That's right.
All right.
The comedian says Snowden called it the Lassie effect, where politicians trying to tell us about NSA spying but couldn't legally speak up.
What's that boy?
Timmy's in the well?
We need to learn eye blink Morse code.
unidentified
Hmm.
Yeah.
ian crossland
Writing in code.
That's something I think Da Vinci did a lot of.
Because his stuff was kind of heretical.
benjamin stewart
Totally.
I don't think he did it through iBlinks, but he definitely encoded it.
ian crossland
He had an actual written code that he would do.
unidentified
Totally, yeah.
benjamin stewart
I like a lot of those older texts that, you know, we don't even know if the author was really the author.
ian crossland
Oh yeah, what's the story of the Bible being written in code, that Tom Hanks movie?
tim pool
The Da Vinci Code?
benjamin stewart
The Da Vinci Code, and there's also, um, oh man, Horowitz.
Leonard Horowitz breaks down the code of the Bible.
There's a few people that break it down slightly differently, and that again shows you apophenia can kick in at any time.
unidentified
What's that?
benjamin stewart
Apophenia is where you see patterns, you can connect patterns that aren't actually there.
That's the overall apophenia, is like you can connect patterns and they make perfect sense.
And that's where a lot of, I bet, a lot of conspiracy comes from.
Not all, but a lot of people's conspiracy is like when you break it down and there's no evidence, but like, come on, you know they would do this in this scenario, which is really just a We got a couple important Super Chats.
tim pool
Ethrel says, Apple doesn't receive your fingerprint or face ID data.
It's all saved directly on your phone.
Apple has been doing a really good job privacy-wise.
I find that surprising, but all right.
Cyrilio says, on the fingerprint note, think of face ID and that's use.
However, I'd say it's in use.
I'd say it started with real ID compliance stemming from the Patriot Act.
Buying tickets to Orlando for my wife and I's honeymoon.
In the terms, you agree to a biometric scan upon entry.
There's this thing they have, I'm not gonna mention the name of the company, where if you agree to a biometric scan, they say that they'll escort you into the airport, and I was all excited for this.
I was like, ooh, this is awesome, because I have TSA Pre, you know, so when you're flying, it's like I just go to the faster line and I don't gotta take off my shoes or whatever.
And so I do this new thing where it's like, they made it sound like they would just walk me through the door and say, have a nice day, because they've checked my fingerprints, my face, they've scanned, crazy background check.
All they did was walk me to the TSA pre-line.
I was like, what am I paying for?
And they were like, well, that's what we do.
And I'm like, I already have this.
So I just canceled it.
benjamin stewart
Interesting.
Yeah.
tim pool
They walked me to the front of the TSA pre-line with like three people in it, to be fair.
benjamin stewart
But I'm like, I don't care.
The whole gathering biometric data, like it's definitely happening.
Have you guys heard of Yoroi?
It's the light wallet for Cardano.
You know Cardano?
tim pool
Oh yeah, definitely.
I have some.
benjamin stewart
Yeah, and I mean, there's a lot good with that, but there's a lot about just like harvesting the biometric data and what Cardano is doing over in Africa.
But maybe I'll save that for later.
That's fascinating.
ian crossland
I wonder if there's any way to avoid it, or if it's just the natural evolution of our species.
benjamin stewart
I don't think there is.
And I honestly don't think that actively, what do you call it, like, you know, butting heads against it, trying to destroy it, is the way forward.
tim pool
All right, Devin H says, Hey Tim, there was a shooting in Colorado.
Gunmen killed the cop.
A bystander shot the gunman.
Officers arriving killed the bystander.
Has received no mainstream media.
This actually was, yeah, we are Change Colorado.
It was a friend of Luke Rutkowski.
So Luke knew him.
He, and you know, he hit me up as soon as it was happening.
He's like, I think this is what happened.
And I was like, bro.
And it turns out, I mean, look, a lot of people I see are blaming the cops for this.
And I'm like, it's, it's a tragedy.
The dude was trying to stop a madman.
The cop pulled up and saw a guy shooting.
Getting reports there was a shooting.
You're a cop and you hear a report, a man just shot a cop.
And he rushed up and he sees a guy standing there with a gun, shooting.
And they're like, I gotta stop him, you know what I mean?
benjamin stewart
Yeah, I mean, really, I wouldn't blame the cops in this situation because, like, I mean, it's so easy to sit in your chair, read a computer and say what you would do in that scenario.
unidentified
Yeah.
benjamin stewart
You know, this is just, it seems this is just one of those very unfortunate events.
This guy was, was being a hero from the way that I saw, you know, I saw Luke's meme and it was, it was a nice one.
And this, this guy really was doing a heroic thing.
He put his neck out there.
He paid the ultimate price and probably saved lives.
So.
tim pool
Sky Rowland says, fresh and fit coming to a Timcast near you.
I've heard rumors.
benjamin stewart
I've heard rumors.
unidentified
Tune in.
tim pool
Grave367 says, Blackrock, why does Thoracin want my house and DNA?
Is that how you pronounce it?
Thoracin?
ian crossland
Who's Thoracin?
tim pool
He's the, uh... That's the, um... The Dark Dwarves in World of Warcraft.
Emperor Thorson.
ian crossland
Oh, is it?
tim pool
Emperor, that's his name.
He's Emperor Thorson.
ian crossland
The Dark Dwarves from Blackrock City.
tim pool
Blackrock Mountains.
ian crossland
I never got there.
My friends were all level 60 by the time I was level 48.
I was like 10 levels behind, so I never got to enjoy those realms from Battlelands on.
tim pool
I don't know where they're at now, but I'm pretty sure they're an allied race now.
Like, you can play as them in Warcraft.
You're saying no?
lydia smith
Oh, okay.
tim pool
I was like, oh, well, correct me if I'm wrong.
No, I'm pretty sure you can.
I'm pretty sure.
ian crossland
He's in Hearthstone, right?
tim pool
He costs five.
ian crossland
He's a 5-5 and he makes all the cards in your hand cost one less every turn.
He's great.
tim pool
Yeah, he's powerful.
And then his wife, when she, her death rattle, she summons him, I think.
Oh, and then there's the Grim Patrons.
Whenever they take damage, they summon another one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ian crossland
Those are awesome.
unidentified
Yep.
ian crossland
Great game.
tim pool
All right, let's see what we got here.
BlackrockBeacon says, with all this talk about Blackrock, I feel the need to say I'm not related in any way to any other similarly named entity.
Tim thought the subverse name debacle was bad.
At least the other guys weren't suspected of being evil.
Raymond Chamas says, I'm being censored on Twitter.
Raymond underscore Chamas.
Probably.
Dagota says, Timcast is allowed to exist because it adds to the harmonizing.
ian crossland
It's a good point.
unidentified
I don't know.
ian crossland
The harmony of nature.
benjamin stewart
Harmony.
tim pool
Zoemg, this is awesome, says Tim is openly controlled.
He's not allowed to talk about fraud or medication for 2020 problems.
But I will say if you go to TimCast.com, you want to see a conversation with Steve Bannon,
it's available there.
And if you want to see a conversation with Candace Owens talking about Bill Gates, it's
also available there.
I think we're not long for this YouTube world, but for the time being, we'll just make sure
the platforms exist where we can have the kind of conversations we need to have.
We're hiring more writers.
We're going to do more shows.
We got the paranormal mystery stuff on the way.
This is already so awesome.
So we need the new website format so it's easier to navigate, but then we're going to have a new paranormal show.
I already have a name idea for it, but I'm not going to say it until we can claim all of the, you know, proper credentials and everything.
But, uh, it's gonna be fun. The idea is we're gonna have like a 10 to 15 minute, like, actual episode where we'll
have sound effects and we'll have our writers will be doing voiceover saying like, you know, and then the guy did this.
It's November 13th, 1952 in Alabama. A giraffe was spotted running across the street.
And then you hear, like, hoofs clacking.
And then after that, like, ten-minute storytelling, we go into open conversation.
And so it'll be, like, Ian chilling.
He'll be like, dude, this story about the giraffe, like, how did you find out about this?
And then we'll, you know, open conversation.
So that will have, like, members-only stuff.
I'm so excited for this.
It's gonna be so cool.
benjamin stewart
You're doing a lot of cool stuff, man.
tim pool
I appreciate that.
Hopefully.
There's, like, a story about birds disappearing.
So you guys hear about the racing pigeons disappearing?
unidentified
No.
Yeah.
tim pool
They released 9,000 racing pigeons.
Oh yeah, yeah.
5,000 vanished.
And they released them and then they wait for them to come home and see who wins.
And they were like maybe a solar storm screw with their magneto perception or whatever.
But there's other stories around the world right now of other birds, migratory birds, like not showing up.
And so we got a mystery on our hands.
Like what's going on with these bird disappearances?
And then you always have these weird stories about like birds falling from the sky, just like in large numbers.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like just like dying.
So we'll have a full in-depth investigation into these mysteries.
It's going to be a lot of fun.
benjamin stewart
I'd like to hear more about that, because I've got my theories about the birds.
ian crossland
I would like to interview a bird.
tim pool
I wonder if the cats have finally come up with a plan, and now they've done it.
They've got the birds.
They're all sitting there at the windows, chattering.
And then finally the plans come to fruition and the birds are just getting taken out one by one.
It's a mass, it's like Order 66, but for cats.
The cats will have their revenge.
MusicDCGuy says the Star Trek episode was people who were ruled by the computer and they did know, but had a decree like the purge they had to do.
Interesting.
Whoa, this is crazy.
Nine-tailed Fox says, Tim, I got drunk and eating raspberries in the woods while watching.
Did you get drunk from the raspberries?
benjamin stewart
Why are you in the woods?
tim pool
You want to hear the craziest thing?
So I thought we had raspberries on the property because our neighbor was like, you know, this guy who's not too far away was like, there are wild raspberries all over here.
And so I walked around and sure enough, there's a bunch of little red berries.
Turns out they're wine berries.
They're not raspberries, but they're basically the same thing.
They taste very similar.
They're delicious.
We also got blackberries, mulberries.
We got pawpaw trees.
We got pawpaw growing outside.
ian crossland
There's been... Tim made some amazing... What is it?
Goat cheese with red wineberry and... Yeah, it was not red wineberry.
tim pool
Well, they're red, but it was goat cheese wineberry jalapeno.
ian crossland
Right from the property, man.
And we have these apples.
tim pool
Not the goats, though.
No cheese.
ian crossland
The goats, no.
tim pool
Ian's like eating the dip with a spoon.
ian crossland
It was so good.
I'm going to put this on this.
It was like an apple crumble from local apples.
tim pool
Crab apple crumble.
It's Allison's crab apple crumble.
And then Allison and I made wild berry chicken.
We took the wild berries.
We cooked them down with some sugar and some lemon, just like a jam.
And then we tossed a little bit of it into like a garlic fried chicken.
So it was amazing.
benjamin stewart
I'm so hungry right now.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Dude, there might be more of that.
I'm bringing that up just because, like, having your own food, being out of a city, you know what's the craziest thing is?
We got, like, three apple trees right next to the house, just right outside.
You could eat for weeks if you ate nothing but apple.
You'd probably get sick of them, but there's just, like, hundreds of them.
There's a bush next to it with probably, like, three, four hundred blackberries on it.
I'm like, we gotta hire someone just to, like, forage for us.
But we're gonna do a- you know what we're gonna do?
I ordered a soft serve machine, and we're gonna take the wine berries, and we're gonna mix them with vanilla and make wine berry ice cream, so you can just, like, you know, make a little, like- Does it- does it, like, mash it all together for you, in the machine?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it'll turn it all up and everything, and then it'll come out, and you'll have, like, this nice berry ice cream.
It's gonna be so- it's gonna be so amazing.
Mulberries are legit, too.
benjamin stewart
Get somebody to can some of them, as well.
Because a lot will go to waste unless, you know, I mean, I would assume you could feed some of that to the chickens, but, like, it sounds like there's way too much.
tim pool
Timcast's old-fashioned mulberry jam.
benjamin stewart
And those apples, man.
ian crossland
With, like, the cap would be a beanie that you'd unscrew.
tim pool
Yeah, so pawpaws, they're like, they taste like avocado and mango combined.
You can't buy those, or mulberries, because they're too delicate to ship.
But, you should, I wonder why people don't, like, can you buy mulberry jam?
benjamin stewart
Because that's easy, you just take it, you cook it down, and we got, we got... Pawpaw makes really good ointment, as well.
tim pool
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
We got, we have this, we have this, we have a massive tree, it's like 60, no, maybe, what is it, like 40 feet tall.
You walk underneath it, and you just shake a branch, and like 300 mulberries just fall into it, you know, you put a blanket down or something, it's amazing.
All right, anyway.
Christian Montague says, Tim, please keep up with the Stargate references.
I've been watching the series in chronological order ever since you mentioned it, and I've been hooked.
Much love to Lids and Ian.
Yeah, somebody mentioned that, because I was like, Star Trek, Star Trek, and they're like, watch Stargate, and I'm like, okay, and what a good show.
ian crossland
This is SG1, the show?
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
I saw the movie with, geez, who was in the movie?
tim pool
The movie was kind of whack.
ian crossland
Yeah, I loved it.
I saw it in the 90s or whatever.
benjamin stewart
That was with Kurt Russell and... Yeah!
ian crossland
What's his name from later he was on The Office?
Amazing actor.
benjamin stewart
Yeah.
ian crossland
Actually one of my favorite actors of all time.
benjamin stewart
The main scientist going through was the guy from The Killing Zoe, I think.
ian crossland
Amazing actor.
I thought that movie was weird.
But I love the idea of discovering a portal and traveling.
I don't know why I'm obsessed with dimensional traveling.
benjamin stewart
Have you seen the Stargate in Peru?
tim pool
I've heard about it.
benjamin stewart
It's like a little notch cut out of a big rock.
ian crossland
This is like ancient civilizations believed it was a real Stargate.
Would they go inside of it and their consciousness would be teleported?
benjamin stewart
I mean, no one really knows.
There's a lot of theories.
But I mean, there's even Cree elders Wilford Buck saying that, you know, the star people came long ago to tell our people how to travel the cosmos and gave us maps of the cosmos.
And we do that through our DNA and wormholes.
So I mean, like, this is a Cree, you know, like up in Canada, north of the Great Lakes, elder talking about this is what their people have always known.
So.
Maybe.
tim pool
Did we mix up Blackstone and Blackrock?
benjamin stewart
So Blackrock, I believe, was the first one.
tim pool
Oh no, yeah, Blackstone is buying entity and Blackstone is buying houses.
Somebody was mentioning that it was Blackrock.
benjamin stewart
One came from the other.
ian crossland
Yeah, but they're both active.
benjamin stewart
Yeah, so like, and they're both right next to each other in New York, like 1985, you know, Black Rock, and I think Blackstone split from it.
Larry Fink went off to start Blackstone, and then Blackstone got far larger.
I think $619 billion is Blackrock, $8.7 trillion is Blackstone.
ian crossland
You know, I think it's the other way around, and I could be wrong about that, but I heard Blackrock, State Street, and there's another one, are the top three investment firms on earth, Blackrock.
benjamin stewart
Blackrock's the one buying the homes, right?
tim pool
No, no, no.
It's Blackstone.
Yeah.
ian crossland
That's so confusing!
That is on purpose!
Look at how similar those company names are!
benjamin stewart
Well, they came from one another.
tim pool
Blackstone bought Ancestry, and Blackstone is buying homes.
benjamin stewart
Yeah.
tim pool
One company.
unidentified
That's what it is.
benjamin stewart
Blackstone.
Okay.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
So we got, uh, Mr. Dubzaster says, When speaking with Michael Knowles, you mentioned rebuilding Chicken City.
Is there a chance for a Make Chicken City Great Again shirt?
I'd buy that for sure.
Oh, yeah.
We want to do shirt designs.
Here's what I imagine.
We have seven chickens.
Well, we have six chickens in a rooster.
And I want to have like, like a blue, like a yellow circle with a blue outline and then the chicken's head in the middle.
And it'll say like team Vanessa and team Margaret, because then we're just going to put the cameras on and have the chickens do their thing.
And then you can buy the shirts for the chicken that you like.
ian crossland
If you stare into their eyes, it's like, if you ever stared into a human's eyes and they looked like that, you would think they were the deepest psychopath.
tim pool
Well, we had four eggs today.
Oh, what am I even supposed to do with all those eggs?
benjamin stewart
Omelette.
ian crossland
Custard?
benjamin stewart
Omelette.
Late night omelette.
ian crossland
Mulberry custard.
tim pool
Mulberry custard.
Wine.
We got blackberries coming.
Probably in the next couple of days we're gonna have hundreds of blackberries.
ian crossland
And we'll probably freeze it if we need to.
tim pool
Yeah.
We should make jams and stuff and preserves and all that stuff.
I'm stoked.
We should probably start actively harvesting the apples and the mulberries.
Hmm cuz we it's it's nuts like you talk to people around here, and they complain about mulberries You drive down the street the road is just dyed purplish black Because there are trees that hang over the road, and it's just insane how many berries there are but you could walk right up You when they're when they're ripe you just touch it and just just put in your mouth you eat them.
They're delicious Yeah, almost like kiwi.
benjamin stewart
And we're talking about food shortages coming.
ian crossland
Isn't that weird?
tim pool
Not for me, though, dude.
We got chickens.
benjamin stewart
I know.
tim pool
And now, uh, big news.
Roberto has started, you know... You know what I'm saying?
Cheeky cheeky.
Yeah, that's right.
Can I just call him Bob?
unidentified
Bob?
tim pool
That's right.
He started yelling.
ian crossland
Bobby.
tim pool
You know, he was yelling.
It was funny.
At first he was going...
And we would laugh at him and now he's he's going He yells randomly and like 15 times in a row and we're like bro, we get he's got a practice.
ian crossland
He's got Tourette's I heard Chicken, I heard like bawk bawk from my side of the house earlier today my son.
Um, but like was it turkeys wild turkeys out there?
tim pool
Yeah, probably turkeys The wild turkeys are walking on all the time.
Oh nice what you may have just heard homeboy yelling.
ian crossland
Oh It was, it was weird.
It didn't sound like the right area of the yard, so I wasn't sure.
tim pool
Gobbles?
unidentified
Yeah.
Gobble, gobble.
ian crossland
I'm hoping it's turkeys.
tim pool
All right.
Mandimar says, If you're into Earth Catastrophe Cycle rabbit hole, a good view is the channel Suspicious Observers.
I know it's verboten to suggest guests, but eh, you know, whatever.
PowderPZ says, Tim, please make an app so we can watch member content on Roku.
Yes!
We're working towards it.
A mobile app so that you can listen to the members-only content with your phone, you know, their screen off.
And Roku, it's called OTT, it's called over-the-top.
We're going as fast as we can.
All of these things are in the pipeline.
The first thing's first, the new website.
I'll tell you this, man.
You know, we had so many people sign up.
It's an absurd amount of members.
And so I went to these companies and I was like, is it possible to just pay a ton of money to have this stuff done in like a week?
And they were like, no!
Like, you can't... Because people are literally coding, the more cooks in the kitchen, the more messy it gets.
And then, instead of actually someone just going through and doing the job, you have people arguing over, like, what is this code?
What did you put?
It's bugging now.
I don't know what happened.
We gotta go back.
There's only so much you can do, and only as fast as you can go, but we're getting there.
So, ladies and gentlemen, if you haven't already, you must smash the like button.
We greatly appreciate it.
Subscribe to this channel, and go to TimCast.com, become a member, because we are going to have the dark.
Members Only segment coming up.
Should be live around 11 or so, and it'll be available for members of TimCast.com.
You can follow us at TimCastIRL on Facebook and Instagram.
Good news, Facebook has determined that this show is unoriginal and unworthy of being monetized on their platform.
Well, sure, whatever.
We'll still leverage that platform to get more people to the website, and you can follow me personally at TimCast.
You want to shout anything out, Ben?
benjamin stewart
Yeah, just find me at benjosephstuart.com.
I got my own news show.
I do podcasts on Thursdays.
I also do a deeper dive section on stuff I can't talk about on YouTube.
And yeah, the YouTube channel is youtube.com backslash by chance or fate and you can find my news channels.
I just talked about the whole housing thing.
ian crossland
Yeah, and your ancient documentaries, your documentaries from like a decade ago are still fascinatingly topical, like Esoteric Agenda, Kymatica, Ungrip, those three particularly.
benjamin stewart
Yeah, there's a lot in Esoteric Agenda that's coming to fruition today, like what we're seeing today.
We'll get into that in the members section.
tim pool
Oh yeah, it's gonna be fun.
benjamin stewart
So, benjosephstewart.com.
tim pool
A lot of people will recognize the title about what we're going to talk about.
The first question I have, but YouTube doesn't allow it.
Same thing with Bannon.
The first thing I said to Bannon when we did the Members Only with Bannon, I just immediately said the thing YouTube doesn't allow you to say.
Bannon gave his response.
So anyway, we gotta do what we gotta do.
Look, it's pros and cons.
Once we have the website up, we're gonna have op-ed writers, we're gonna have news writers.
So even if we can't say it on the show, the website's gonna have a lot of topics and talk about serious things.
And it's gonna be legit, double fact-checked, no jokes.
Like, I'm not the kind of person who's gonna go find some random doctor in Wisconsin to say what I want to hear about a medication.
We're gonna be like, Thank you, Tim.
Yeah, don't look at me, man.
organization says this, the FDA says this, the CDC says this, and we want people to be
personally responsible.
We just want to have as much information as possible.
ian crossland
Thank you, Tim.
benjamin stewart
Call them into their higher potential so they can make their decision.
tim pool
Yeah, don't look at me, man.
I don't want to get sued when you drink soap or something, you know what I mean?
ian crossland
Hey, and while you're at it, not doing everything healthy, I mean, follow me on the internet
at iancrossland.net and at iancrossland on social media.
Thanks.
lydia smith
And you guys may also follow me on Twitter at Sour Patch Lids.
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