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June 29, 2021 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Candace Owens Joins To Discuss UFOs, Time Travel, And Mandela Effect
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candace owens
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tim pool
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lydia smith
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tim pool
So that UFO report came out.
They said they couldn't really explain anything.
And a lot of people think it's a dud.
So we've been talking about a lot of other stuff.
I mean, you got Tucker Carlson saying he's being spied on by the NSA.
I mean, that's a huge story.
The Biden administration.
And, uh, we're sitting here, and we're being joined by Candace Owens, and we're just having this crazy conversation about the Mandela Effect, and time travel, and UFOs, and I'm like, you know what?
Like, what Candace mentions, we should just talk about UFOs, and I'm like, we could certainly talk politics, but haven't you talked about politics all the time?
unidentified
All the time.
tim pool
Let's talk a lot about the weird stuff, because there's actually some weird stuff, and this is still breaking news, this Pentagon report, so I guess, uh, just gonna roll with it and just have a conversation about whatever.
candace owens
Yeah.
tim pool
Time travel, Mandela effect.
candace owens
Everything.
tim pool
Shazam, the movie with Sinbad that didn't exist, but you insist it did.
candace owens
It did.
It definitely existed.
Yeah.
I mean, you're so right.
Everyone always pigeonholes me.
It's like, let's talk about politics.
It's like, yeah, I love politics.
Let's talk about it.
But there's a lot more interesting stuff.
And politics is related to everything.
I mean, UFOs, obviously, because they've been sealing these reports.
And I was saying to you offline that my grandmother, my maternal grandmother, swore until her dying day from the time that we were young that she was walking down the street and she saw a crashed UFO and a little green man came out.
And our whole lives, my entire life, she died in 2013 or 2012.
I just thought she was crazy.
I thought she was absolutely nuts.
I was like, obviously this didn't happen because aliens aren't real.
And then it's been interesting now to see them come out and say, oh yeah, these UFOs are real.
Just think about how many people lived and saw UFOs, crop circles, whatever you want to call it, and were told that they were crazy, and the government called them conspiracy theorists and called them tinfoil hat heads, and now some of them, many of them, dead, like my grandmother.
There's no redemption for that.
It's just like the government allowed entire swaths of the population to be gaslit, as opposed to just saying, yeah, something's going on, but we can't tell you anything.
And then you have to apply that logic to today.
So now, who are they calling the conspiracy theorists?
Like, is this gonna be like, you know, 40 years from now, the craziest conspiracy theorists that we hear now, and they're gonna be like, oh yeah, actually that's true, it's declassified.
tim pool
The report's saying they can't explain it, so it's basically now the one big conspiracy, all these UFOs, we don't know what they are, someone's doing something.
So it sounds like there was a conspiracy and they've admitted it.
candace owens
Yeah, and they've known.
They've known.
They've known for a very long time.
tim pool
And then, you know, we'll just talk about interdimensional aliens.
But interestingly, there is this funny thing that's popped up where General Mark Milley, who's chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff right now, told, I think it was an ROTC class, they'd be fighting hybrid armies and little green men.
And so naturally, with the UFO report coming out, this clip is resurfacing where everyone's like, This proves it and there's like an article from I think it's from like army.com or something like no, he's speaking metaphorically, but we'll talk about that.
We'll get in all that.
We also have Ian hanging out.
ian crossland
Yes, your favorite.
Psychonaut in the house.
Thank you, Tim.
candace owens
Do you want to tell them what you just asked me right before we went live?
ian crossland
Do you like psychedelics?
candace owens
No, you said, are you on Twitter?
ian crossland
I ask you a lot of things.
You do have Twitter, right?
The real Candace So.
candace owens
Thanks, Candace.
That's how you know the most humbling thing, when Ian just looks at you and goes, are you on Twitter?
ian crossland
What's up, homie?
Let's hang out like we're 12 again.
tim pool
We all busted out laughing.
ian crossland
Dude, there's this thing called walking plasma balls that I've just been reading about, where apparently they triangulate lasers from base stations and they hit an area in the sky, and then they cause what looks like a ball of plasma that reads on radar.
And so a lot of these things that people think they're catching on radar, their UFOs are actually this focused energy.
And now we're talking like, can they do it from space stations?
Can they triangulate lasers from outer space to make us and they keep doing it over these military bases, but there's probably something else to like actual craft that people can get in and out of.
unidentified
We'll get into all of it, for sure.
lydia smith
I am super excited about this conversation because I don't think that I have ever heard Candace talking about aliens.
And I'm excited to get her out of her corner.
candace owens
So we'll see what she has to say about this.
lydia smith
I'm stoked.
tim pool
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And let's just jump into this news.
So you guys may have seen it.
This, uh, this UFO report, we've all been waiting for it.
And a lot of people said it was a dud.
Pentagon report says UFOs can't be explained, and this admission is a big deal.
It is a big deal.
It means they're coming out right now and saying, oh yeah, you know all those UFOs people reported seeing?
Well, they are real, we've seen them too, and we have no idea what they are.
So now, it's just opened up the door to everybody kind of being like, something is happening?
We don't know what?
Should we be scared?
ian crossland
I want to just quickly clarify, I said walking plasma balls are called talking plasma balls.
And I think that might be part of what these people are seeing.
tim pool
So wait, wait, what is that?
ian crossland
It's when you focus lasers from like at least three or more base stations into a point in the air, and then it creates like a ball of plasma that reads on radar.
And they think that it's a craft because they can move it around really fast.
And they're like, no craft can move at this speed because they're just pointing a light.
candace owens
But do you think our military wouldn't know that?
ian crossland
Yeah, they might know.
It's crazy.
I think they're gaslighting the right word.
I think that they're prepping us for some sort of military.
They want us to fund the military.
Fund the military.
Be afraid.
candace owens
Oh, interesting.
That's a very good perspective.
But then it doesn't explain why so many people for so many years, especially after World War II, started saying that they were seeing You know, spacecrafts and seeing things in the middle of the night.
Especially, I am the most amazed by crop circles.
Like, this is like inexplicable, like perfect measurements.
Circles, you know, hit in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night.
Couldn't possibly be the same.
It was just a prank and they cover it up.
I mean, there's just been a lot of questions and the government never answers it, you know?
And I definitely, of course, there's always some sort of initiative to get more money from It's citizens, but I've always just thought that they know a lot more than they're ever telling us, of course, because they're the government.
And it's too much when it happens all over the world.
It stops being conspiracy, right?
So it's one thing to say, okay, my grandmother saw this thing, alien spacecraft, and she said a green man came out and you could be like, all right, whatever.
It's your grandmother.
She's probably crazy.
Cool.
But there was also a story and this one is to me the most striking and you can fact check me on the country, I'm pretty sure it's Zimbabwe.
But there was like 51 school children that were playing on the playground and they all ran inside and they said they were crying and they were terrified and the teachers were inside correcting work.
I think it was 65, exactly 65 school children.
and they all said they described a spacecraft that landed and this was almost like 30 years ago and that a little person came out and was looking at them but didn't say anything but they knew what the person was saying or the alien whatever it was was wanted them to think in their heads they didn't need to move their mouth to communicate and so this happened and obviously it made a big splash around the world and so Harvard actually flew in and psychiatrists and psychologists into this random place in Zimbabwe
and Sat down with the kids to turn whether or not this was a hoax
Right, and so they isolated the kids and they spoke to each of the kids and you can actually watch the interviews of
these children so young and they all kind of look
Terrified and they describe what they saw and he had them draw pictures and he's interviewing them and asking them
So, how did it make you feel? You know, it made me feel scared
You know They're all talking about it and he concluded at the end of
it that there was no way that this was a hoax because it's Impossible for that many children to lie
And tell the same story and we all know that like, you know kids
They just like they don't have that kind of a memory. They're not nefarious
They can't all tell the same story and the most interesting thing about that despite Harvard coming in into Africa
including that they told the truth is that now they're all adults and they
did an update interview with them and Did you know that since the lockdowns, UFO sightings, paranormal activity has been going up?
you know, in that schoolyard that day, and we don't have any explanation for it.
tim pool
Other than did you know that since the lockdowns, UFO sightings, paranormal activity has been has been going up.
Reports of people saying unexplained things have been happening.
candace owens
Yeah, it's it's weird.
I mean, it's just weird stuff.
And to me, you know, on the topic of aliens, I've met people
and they just like there's no way they exist.
And define alien, okay?
It's just, I mean, any, I guess, being that we're not aware of.
When you say alien, you don't have to say it has to have big eyes or whatever.
But I always found it really strange.
You really have to apply a little bit of common sense that we're obviously not the most intelligent being.
Otherwise, we would be like, you know, hey, Tim.
Let's go to Mars tomorrow real quick, you know, grab something, come back.
Let's go, you know, just fly up and look at all the planets and we can't do that.
Not even that.
Aliens could be at the bottom of the ocean, right?
We can't even get to the bottom of the ocean.
So to me it's weird that there are some people that go, it's just impossible because the government hasn't told us or we haven't seen it with our own two eyes.
We didn't even have cell phones.
My dad had a beeper.
When I was growing up and thinking about how much tech has changed, it's like, we're definitely not the smartest beings, but we're also definitively the most arrogant beings because so many people are convinced that we are the smartest beings.
So I guess we get one point for being super arrogant.
tim pool
I bet we're actually fairly stupid.
What I mean by that is we can collect data.
We like, we'll watch a rock roll on the ground and go, oh, and then figure out how to make a wheel.
But that's like the lowest level of figuring out how to invent something.
candace owens
Right.
tim pool
So if we can assume that there's other intelligent life in the universe, then the likelihood that there is a more intelligent species than us is probably... Animals!
candace owens
I mean, think about some of the instincts that animals have.
Like, you know, dogs.
I mean, just... They have powers and things that we don't really comprehend as human beings.
So, again, we are definitively... I'm not saying that dogs are the smartest.
I guess you could say, well, they don't live in houses and they don't have air conditioning and all this stuff.
Okay, sure.
But they definitely have, you know, a different sense than human beings have, and people don't explore that at all, which I've always found to be really weird.
ian crossland
There are foxes that are, like, tuned into the magnetic, uh, compass of Earth, so they can, like, aim magnetic north when they hunt, and then they'll, like, dive on their prey that's under the snow.
They're incredible.
candace owens
Yeah, wolves.
I mean, I love animals.
Learning about weird things that animals can do, I'm like, they're almost aliens sometimes.
ian crossland
Oh yeah, sharks can sense electromagnetic energy with their nose, I think.
tim pool
You were mentioning, was your grandma told the story about seeing a little green man or whatever?
A lot of people probably think something like that's really crazy, but let me pull up the story.
We got a few stories that are resurfacing now because of this UFO report.
These are legitimate sources.
This is armytimes.com, I assure you.
This is NewsGuard certified.
92.5 out of 100.
Army chief talks little green men and sets off UFO enthusiasts.
They claim there's an explanation for this, but here's the quote.
unidentified
They say.
tim pool
This is Mark Milley, who's now the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
You'll be dealing with terrorists.
You'll be dealing with hybrid armies.
You'll be dealing with little green men.
You'll be dealing with tribes.
You're going to be dealing with it all, and you're going to be dealing with it simultaneously, Milley said.
Now, of course, here is they right. Wait, what was that?
Did Millie just say cadets will be battling little green men? And then they go no, no, no, no, they just mean that
there are some countries that have people in the military who are small and they wear green outfits. So that's what
they mean by little green man. And hybrid didn't mean like human alien. It
It means something.
ian crossland
Not Chimera.
candace owens
I mean, I think for a lot of people, they just don't like to apply their brains at all.
They're more comfortable believing whatever it is they're told, right?
I mean, I always say to somebody, it's like going back a hundred years and trying to explain the concept of a cell phone to a human being.
It just could never happen.
You can't just pick up the phone and call someone.
And have them be on the other end, no matter where you are and what country.
I mean, they just can't get their minds around it until it's physically in their hands.
And so, people are just not ready to even think about it a lot of times.
And I'm the exact opposite.
We're like, I want to hear everything.
If anything else, it challenges you to think critically, right?
And it's such an important exercise to constantly be trying to bend your mind like a pretzel, right?
ian crossland
Yeah, I love the idea of infinity.
Trying to just understand it.
tim pool
That was a really good point about cell phones though.
Imagine going back to the 90s and saying within, you know, it's what, iPhone came out 2007, if you said within 10 or so years you will have a device that can record videos, take photos, you touch it to control it, It can give you access to the summation of human knowledge to a certain degree.
You can communicate with other people.
You can make phone calls on it.
They'd be like, get out of here.
In 10 or 15 years?
Even when regular cell phones came out, like the Nokia candy bar.
If you explained a modern, you know, like Galaxy 21 or whatever, they'd be like, no way.
candace owens
Think about trying to explain electricity to people that were using lanterns to light their homes.
Like when J.D.
Rockefeller and like that, you know, how he garnered his wealth, you know, like, oh, we got gasoline and now we've got lanterns and this is going to power your home.
Imagine trying to explain to those people Warburg?
Thomas Edison.
of electricity power in the world, right? They would think you were a tinfoil hat, a conspiracy
theorist, and you would be on the outskirts of society because you're crazy. And actually,
interesting little historical tidbit, when, um, who was it?
Uh, uh, not J.D. Rockefeller, the other one of the big guys, Warburg, uh, electricity. It
was Thomas Edison, but who funded him? It was a bank. Uh, yeah. Chase Bank.
J.P.
Morgan.
Yeah.
I'm like, couldn't get his name out.
J.P.
Morgan.
Do you know what happened with the first time he, uh, Thomas Edison lit, you know, the first one that was ever lit with electricity?
Do you know whose home it was?
unidentified
No.
candace owens
J.P.
Morgan's.
unidentified
Right.
candace owens
So he invites a small crowd of wealthy people to come in.
Um, and he shows them, they come in.
So everything's obviously lit by lanterns and he turns on his house and they're like, Oh my gosh, this is amazing.
And do you want to know what his father said to him afterwards?
He said, this is crazy.
This will never power the world.
Don't invest in this any further.
This is stuff that belongs in the circus.
ian crossland
That was J.P.
Morgan's dad.
unidentified
J.P.
candace owens
Morgan's dad.
The first showing of electricity was in that house, right?
So it's just, you have to think about history to kind of consider the present.
And we still have these people that think this could never happen, and yet it takes the conspiracy theorists, you know, of their time to really push the world forward.
ian crossland
I think they'd say Zeus shot lightning bolts. I think he had electricity.
Right. Have you heard of the Baghdad battery? It's this ancient battery. It's a clay pot. You
fill it with vinegar and it has an iron rod in it and then you wrap it with copper wire and it
produces an electrical charge and they'd make like 50 of them and line them all up and connect them
And so like in the pyramids, there's no fire marks because they didn't use fire to light when they were in their building.
Apparently they use theoretically, hypothetically is electricity to light.
They had big batteries.
There's a hieroglyph of this guy holding this big, what looks like a tube of like an incandescent with like a filament in it.
And then like a slave is like holding the battery behind him or something.
candace owens
Well, that's actually funny because there's this whole concept now.
I'm very into mythology.
I like, you know, Greek mythology and I think there's something eternal about the lessons that you learn when you study mythology.
But what's interesting is if you consider a lot of mythology and you think of them, you know, even if you think of Egyptian hieroglyphics and as far as they tell, The concepts of their aliens could literally just be like a person from 2021.
Have you ever watched Stargate SG-1?
tim pool
Sure.
candace owens
Which is crazy.
They would have been like, this person's a god!
Oh my gosh, this person just made light!
ian crossland
And if the person told them they were a god, then it would reinforce the thought.
candace owens
It would reinforce it.
tim pool
You want to watch Stargate SG-1?
Yeah, that's basically what it's about.
candace owens
Yeah, right.
tim pool
So they find this portal that can open up with different codes to a bunch of different planets.
And there's an alien race that was claiming to be gods.
And they just had better technology.
So these people are like, yeah, they think they're gods.
And they're just magic.
It's it's technology.
ian crossland
I think about like the angels and the demons from the Bible and how they could fly and had wings.
I think they had hang gliders.
Swooping in with their, I don't know what.
Dropping fire.
tim pool
Or jetpacks.
ian crossland
Flaming oil on people and stuff.
tim pool
Jetpacks?
ian crossland
Maybe.
tim pool
That's the crazy thing too, like when you talk about cell phones, is that when people try to predict the future, you look at, what was that movie where Sylvester Stallone goes to the future and everyone's ultra-woke?
ian crossland
Time Cop?
unidentified
What?
ian crossland
I never saw it.
candace owens
I'm so bad at movies.
tim pool
It's the one where the seashells we just talked about.
No, no, no.
The chat's going to light up.
They're like, dude, tell us.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
How do you not remember the name of that movie?
ian crossland
Sylvester Stallone in the future.
tim pool
Yeah.
He gets frozen and then he goes to the future.
Wesley Snipes is the bad guy.
ian crossland
I know exactly what you're talking about.
I can't remember the name of it.
candace owens
I've never seen it.
tim pool
But anyway, like they try to predict the future and they couldn't fathom cell phones.
So like he walks up to a... Demolition man!
There we go.
He walks up to a payphone and it's a video payphone.
And that was like the thing they thought in the 90s in the future.
The payphones will have cameras.
It's like, bro, we just... Technically correct.
We just have it in our pockets.
candace owens
Yeah, that's so funny.
But people don't think like that.
It's interesting.
I'm always fascinated by what the human mind is willing to comprehend.
ian crossland
Like what other technologies are we thinking are going to be centralized that are going to be decentralized in the future?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, that's a great question energy production.
ian crossland
Maybe we have batteries but like you can't power like There's there's stuff for a while now.
tim pool
There's been research into Materials that when you walk they fight it causes a vibration piezoelectricity and it generates a current Yeah, so you could literally have a phone that just charges because you're walking.
candace owens
Oh Right.
But guess what?
They don't want that either.
So the other way to think about it also is that a lot of this stuff probably already exists, right?
And it exists within the military, but the government don't want to give you that because that doesn't, that gives you too much power, right?
Within your own home.
Like I think about the concept of being able to do, to charge your own phone.
I mean, that's literally Apple right now has become so non-innovative since Steve Jobs died.
It's actually like the worst company that still exists.
Like I just waiting.
I, I, I pray that Elon Musk just kind of, takes them out and creates like the e-phone and like
because they're not actually innovative anymore and he's on a terrible job
since Steve Jobs died Tim Cook has now their whole method of selling phones just
keep changing the battery every couple of years We realize that so they're actually their model of making
money now relies on now you have to buy 20 new
Cables and things to connect and like you have to constantly charge things all the time
Cables and things to connect and like you have to constantly charge things all the time which was the exact
Which was the exact opposite of what Steve Jobs vision was?
opposite of what Steve Jobs vision was But Apple would do everything to suppress something that
But Apple would do everything to suppress something that could just charge itself because that's literally how they're
could just charge itself because that's literally how they're making all of their money now
making all of their money now Right, so there's all also once you're in that sort of big
Right, so there's all also once you're in that sort of big tech bubble
tech bubble, you know Silicon bubble and and they work so closely with the
You know Silicon bubble and and they work so closely with the government and they're fighting for government
contracts Like they don't actually want the world to advance to the
point where they're not needed You know what? I mean, so like after discovering
electricity like of course, they want to make sure they can control it
Imagine if there was something you could just generate your own electricity in your backyard and you wouldn't have to
pay Con Edison or whatever whoever it is that you pay
So the government's job is to also make sure that we get tech after they figured out how to profit off of tech
tim pool
You know, I think Apple is a really good example of if you if you look at Apple's inner workings what you were saying
I don't innovate anymore. It's kind of like our political space right now
It's become tribalist.
Why do you buy the iPhone?
Well, you gotta buy the iPhone.
What's good about it?
iPhone just works.
It's better.
And that's where we're at with a lot of people being like, here's what I support and why, and they have no real good reason.
candace owens
It's also suppression.
They build the system.
to suppress new technology from coming in.
And I go through this all the time.
My husband is actually now making the switch away from Apple, which is great.
But the thing is, is when they were innovative and great and everything spoke to each other and Steve Jobs was alive, it was like, yes, I want the Apple phone.
I want the Apple computer because it makes everything super seamless.
But now they're not innovating anymore.
So they just want to make it so that like, well, do you really want to change your computer and your laptop and this core is not going to fit?
I mean, they took away the concept.
It was the one thing all the countries agreed on was like the universal headphone.
Yeah.
unidentified
Right?
candace owens
And Apple took it away.
unidentified
Right?
candace owens
So now you have to buy the little piece to connect your thing to anything.
It's horrible, right?
You can't just buy, like, I bought a pair of Dre Beats the other day in the airport and then was like, oh wait, but now my Dre Beats is not going to go into what used to be universal and we all agreed on because Apple needs to make money.
So you also have to buy a little.
It's horrible.
It really is.
But this is where it is.
Well, now tech is actually trying to inconvenience you rather than to convenience you.
tim pool
You know that the, I could be wrong about this, I'm pretty sure the first light bulb that was ever like made is still in a firehouse in New York and it's still going after like a hundred years.
unidentified
Oh wow.
tim pool
Yeah.
So I guess they, what they try to say as well, the filament was expensive, but it lasted forever.
And so they needed a filament that would, so they could sell more.
candace owens
Yeah.
tim pool
And that's, uh, that's how they make money.
That's right.
ian crossland
I'm looking up the first light bulb.
candace owens
I still believe.
I don't know if it was a conspiracy, but like you cannot tell me that back in the day when every time iPhone had a new phone, suddenly our phones would have issues.
And I'm like, this is 100%.
Like, don't don't think I'm an idiot.
You think that?
I think you're so noble that like you don't know how to just send out a little bug to the phone that you created to make sure we have to buy the next phone.
Which, by the way, I was cool with that.
Updating your phone every couple of years.
The charger thing.
This is confirmed.
Like they just have like it's not faster. It's Apple is actually extremely
Inconvenient now, I mean just how many chords it takes to make things speak to each other
I honestly think Steve Jobs is like rolling over in his grave. This is confirmed
tim pool
Check us out BBC Apple fined for slowing down old iPhones.
candace owens
Oh, it wasn't a conspiracy right conspiracy theory proves I knew I was like, it's just impossible.
Like every single time, like, Oh, suddenly I'm at the Apple store saying something's wrong.
It's like, well, you can just give you the new phone.
tim pool
Here we go.
candace owens
Just pressing a button being like detonate old one.
tim pool
I guess what was happening is that you'd get a software update and then it would jam everything up.
candace owens
And that's why I never update my phone and my husband gets so upset with me.
And I'm like, honey, I'm telling you every time I update my phone, it has more issues than solves.
And it's not gonna hate the iOS mandatory update.
And it's like, but it's working when I want to update it, but it's not new bugs and new fixes.
tim pool
It's like, Here's the out-of-context clip already.
Leftists are going to put up a clip where it's like Candace Owens criticizes capitalism.
candace owens
Oh gosh.
ian crossland
Let's go deeper.
candace owens
Yeah, because it's not.
It's crony capitalism.
ian crossland
I got the Galaxy S5 because you could take the battery out of the back because they were like, oh, your phone's always spying on you.
I was like, okay, I'll take my battery out.
Worst case scenario.
And after the S5, all the batteries are embedded in the machine now.
You can't take it apart.
candace owens
By the way, just made me think about that when you talk about your phone spying on you.
Like I am always amazed also like in taking a look at humanity.
Like I like just like take myself out for a second just look at humanity and just how foolish we are.
Like there are human beings that have Alexa in their home, right?
And they really think that one day, do you have Alexa here?
ian crossland
Right there.
candace owens
Oh my gosh.
They really think that one day Jeff Bezos sat down and said, I really like to help people turn on the lights.
I think I need to help them.
It's amazing how much privacy people will give up for a tiny bit of convenience.
Just get up and turn your lights off, right?
And so when this came out, the first thing that came to my mind was clearly they make their money off of selling data.
It's also the Whole Foods thing, right?
So if you go to Whole Foods like I do, Now that Jeff Bezos took over Whole Foods, they will literally take, like, you know, they'll say, oh, can you put in your Amazon Prime thing?
And if you put in your Amazon Prime, you'll spend $900 and they'll give you 10 cents off.
And it's like clearly that's an exchange happening, right?
So they're willing to give you those 10 cents to know everything that you bought and to create a profile about you and what you like and what your interests are.
Like he's not just giving you 10 cents for putting in your Amazon Prime.
And obviously Alexa is spying on you.
That's common sense.
So when these stories start popping up and I said this right when it came out, I was like, clearly this is spying in your home.
They're convincing you to spy on yourself, right?
And then those stories came out where like the police showed up after a wife and a husband got into a fight and like, it's good they showed up.
They showed up because there was a man that was like beating his girlfriend, right?
Now husband and wife was boyfriend and girlfriend and the police showed up and she didn't say call 9-1-1.
unidentified
Right.
candace owens
She didn't say call 9-1-1.
So like the most interesting part of the story was that no one called 9-1-1, but Alexa decided to call 9-1-1 because she lit.
Did anybody see Smart House and Disney?
Like, come on, dude.
Smart House.
Did you ever watch that?
The Disney show?
I mean, maybe because I watched it and I was like eight, but it was the idea of like your house got too smart.
And I'm telling you like that is I'm like your house.
You just do not.
Turn off your own lights, I guess is what I'm saying.
This is a long-winded way to say, hey, Internet, turn off your own lights.
ian crossland
Yeah, I've seen stories where they have the front doors can be automated by these machines for your delivery person, but random people are getting access to the house.
tim pool
They have deadbolts that are wireless that connect to apps, and you can say to your computer, open the door as you're pulling up, and it'll open it for you.
candace owens
Nothing if it there's the now to turn on your oven your car all of that stuff is nobody actually reads the privacy agreement It's like they can at any time just zap into wherever they want to be which is why and by the way That's a great thing when like a criminal's on the loose and we're trying to find them and then they can just zap in and find Someone like there's no such thing now of like the nine-day chase what they find those guys in like hours, right?
Because the world is so technologically advanced.
The downside of that is that, I don't know, people that think that Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates are philanthropists.
It's like, guys, they didn't become the richest man in the world.
The richest man in the world is not a philanthropist.
You know what I mean?
He's selling something.
tim pool
The dangerous thing about surveillance is that sometimes we do things that are illegal, but we ultimately decide shouldn't be.
And if people aren't allowed to ever engage in any kind of rule bending, then you just,
you collapse under authoritarianism.
People eventually become super rigid.
It was, I was talking with this hacker, Maxi Marlin Spike, and he said, it's the easiest
way to understand.
Look at all the states that are legalizing marijuana.
How would people know they wanted to legalize it unless they were breaking the law?
Now imagine that concept.
Cameras in every room.
Everyone being spied on.
You would never explore that.
ian crossland
And then you get crazy people like Hitler, who I, you know, I'm trying to bring up as little as possible.
He would make stuff legal that was horrible.
Like you can't just because something's legal doesn't mean it's right or even good.
It could be horribly, disastrously evil.
So, you know, if these things are listening to every word and then they make something illegal, like talking about like us having this conversation.
tim pool
Right.
They do listen.
How do you think it knows when you call its name?
candace owens
It's always listening, and people just don't think like that.
And I remember talking to my girlfriend.
She's like, well, it's just nice.
Siri or Alexa, whoever it is, all these people are in your lives now, and she turns on the lights.
And I'm like, was it that much of an inconvenience when turning off your own lights?
Was it that really the thing that got you to give up all your data and your private conversations with your husband?
tim pool
Come on, you're laying in bed, and your eyes are half closed, and you're reaching, and you can't do it.
You just want to be like, yo, dude, turn on the lights.
ian crossland
I'm like, what time is it?
Cause I just don't want to look at a clock.
I just want to listen.
I asked that machine like five times today.
What time it is.
I don't have a clock.
I don't want to look at it.
It hurts my, my eyes when I'm waking up.
tim pool
I love this idea for the, uh, the zoo hypothesis about like, maybe we're like the earth is a big zoo reality show or whatever.
Cause now they're tracking everything we're doing.
They're listening to everything.
And if we really were living in like the Truman show.
Well, people got cameras on their phones.
You're in the bathroom, and you're on your phone, and there's a camera pointing at your face.
American Dead made a joke about that.
They were like, all the CIA does is watch people take dumps from their front-facing cameras.
candace owens
No, I mean, on my computer, my Apple computer, I do put a little piece of tape on it.
ian crossland
So does Zuckerberg.
candace owens
Yeah, that's another thing.
Always look at what the tech people are doing.
What's really interesting to consider is none of them allow their kids to have smartphones.
Why?
Why would somebody create something that they don't want their child to use?
ian crossland
Dude, when we were building Mines, I co-founded Mines, we were like, how addictive do we want to make this?
We were designing like the game of some gamification stuff.
And we kind of agreed like 80, 82%.
Because if you go, but you can go all the way if you want to make it.
So it's like heroin, digital heroin.
I mean, you can do that to people.
And they do that.
That's their jobs is come and make it as addictive as possible.
We want as much, you know, traction on the site, repetitive traction.
candace owens
Well, even the scroll mechanism, like the refresh thing was designed after casinos because it's addicting.
Like, you know, to refresh, refresh, refresh.
That was designed.
Yeah, it was designed after casinos to make it more addicting.
And it's just people just don't think about it.
Like they just don't know.
And I'm just I'm just constantly conscious of technology, constantly conscious of the technocrats.
I consider everything.
In terms of how they probably think and it's just amazing every time people for a little bit of convenience will give up all their privacy time and time again.
tim pool
Yeah, giving up your security, giving up your freedom in exchange for security.
candace owens
And that's really the theme of COVID-19, right?
That really is, I guess, you know, to extend it into what's going on today.
It's amazing, like, what people are celebrating as wins and just it's almost, it makes you question whether or not the master and slave relationship is almost normal.
You get what I mean?
I want to say that I'm not saying it's good.
I'm saying, is it normal?
Because when I see these people that seek to enslave themselves, despite being told the truth, despite being told like, you know, like people don't, not all people want freedom is I guess what I'm learning now.
People find it easier to be enslaved.
tim pool
We had Yeonmi Park on.
She's a North Korean defector.
This was last week.
And she explained to us that when she finally made it out of North Korea through years of slavery in China, traveling through the Gobi Desert, made it to South Korea, she said it was painful to experience freedom and that if North Korea offered her food, she would have gone back.
candace owens
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah.
The reason she said she left was that she was starving.
And so she looks across the bay and she sees China and she's like, maybe if I go there, there's food.
That was the sole motivating factor.
Freedom was painful.
You got to be responsible for yourself.
candace owens
I wrote about that in my book like you know freedom is actually something that's very difficult and just because you're given freedom doesn't really mean Much if you're not willing to be responsible for your freedom and most people don't want to be responsible for their freedom So just listening to governor to government orders.
It's easy It's a system that they can plug themselves into look at the mentality of a slave I can I can plug myself into this they can tell me exactly what to do and I'm comfortable with that and the idea of removing Government and having a thing for yourself like that's scary to a lot of people and and justifiably because if someone makes the wrong decision And they have all the power they could end up hurting a lot of people we've been suffering consequences
tim pool
We got this big story that's been trending today.
I think there's like hundreds of thousands of tweets about Tucker Carlson saying he's being spied on by the Biden administration.
There's reports coming out there like not even Fox News believes it.
But first of all, this is a huge story.
But when you were talking, you were just talking about technology and giving up all of our security and everything.
Tucker mentioned that a whistleblower contacted him and told them information about a story that could have only come from his texts or his emails.
But think about that, right?
We view using our cell phones as a convenience.
We see our emails as a convenience, but it's also normal.
And now we don't realize that we've given up some of our security in exchange for using text and email.
We didn't realize that was an exploit that the NSA or our political rivals could use against us.
candace owens
Yeah.
I mean, I was on his show last night when he said this, and I mean, just knowing Tucker, he's obviously telling the truth.
Tucker's not a person, he would never introduce anything on his show.
It wasn't real research, and he wasn't 100% confident in what he was saying.
He's not just lingering something in front of someone's face.
There's no effort to tantalize the public with what he's saying.
You know, it's a big story, but it's also common sense, you know, especially with this government, right?
This totalitarian regime of Biden, where we can't even say things that are true.
You can't even tell the truth when you're censoring a lot of people for literally telling the truth of what happened to them, right?
tim pool
I do kind of like something feels off about saying the totalitarian regime of Biden because
while I do recognize there's certainly a lot of authoritarianism, they're going after the
grannies from January 6th, giving credit for that to Biden seems wrong.
candace owens
Well, it's not.
Well, so when you say totalitarian regime of Biden, like, you know, he's the puppet.
He's a puppet.
He just put there, right?
He doesn't know what he's doing.
Like, obviously, he's not the mastermind of the Biden regime.
The Biden regime is just like...
It's Jill.
Yeah, it's not even Jill.
I mean, these people need to realize these people for years, the people that became president
are selected by oligarchs, you know.
They decide who they want to be president.
Obama was picked.
They had him run.
They're in with the media.
The media is just study propaganda.
You don't recognize it when it's right in your face, right?
Mainstream media is literally meant to control the way you think.
I mean, it's called TV programming for a reason.
It is programming your mind.
We had Bannon on the show, and a lot of people in our audience were surprised at what Bannon was saying.
Like, he said, tax the rich.
He's like, these people are ripping you off, we gotta tax the rich.
You know subliminal messaging in stores buy it buy it buy it
tim pool
You know we had a Bannon on the show and a lot of people in our audience were surprised
At what Bannon was saying like he said tax the rich He's like these people are ripping you off
We got a tax the rich and people who watch this are like whoa the media said he was like far, right?
He was a fascist. He was a white supremacist Sounds like an Occupy Wall Street guy.
candace owens
Right, right.
tim pool
Tax the rich!
candace owens
Yeah, I mean, well, they believe everything.
I mean, there are people that are so invested, and they... The funny part is, is they are the ones that call everybody Nazis, and they know so little about Nazis.
They know so little about Germany.
They don't even know what fascism is.
They don't even know they are the fascists when they say, censor it, censor it.
They don't understand it because they're not meant to understand it, because there's been this sort of rinsing of history.
And they just think everything they don't like is a Nazi, and they don't know actually what the Nazis are.
And it's, you know, how did Hitler accomplish what he accomplished, right?
Because he controlled the media.
He controlled the media.
He couldn't say anything, and that's exactly what's happening.
A glowing profile piece about Joe Biden, Jill Biden, and people go, okay, well, why was Trump attacked?
Because he wasn't in the establishment.
The oligarchs didn't pick him, right?
They didn't get into a meeting and say, we want our guy in the office.
If they had, They would have said he was the best person ever.
We saw about Obama.
You could not find bad information on Obama, right?
Because they control the media, and they control people's minds.
And there are people that are walking around in America right now, and they genuinely believe that I am a black, white supremacist.
They're that far deluded.
tim pool
It's like the Dave Chappelle sketch.
unidentified
I love it.
candace owens
Yeah, it is.
And they believe it, because that's what they're told every day by the media.
They watch it.
Candace Owens, she's just a black, white supremacist.
She just woke up one day and said, I want to help create a society that I can't live in.
tim pool
Yeah.
candace owens
How can I help oppress myself?
tim pool
This is, it's the perfect example of cognitive dissonance.
And how are we supposed to progress?
How are we supposed to solve our problems?
When you have an entire faction that bases their worldview off of paradoxes.
Like there are a bunch of, like you being a black white supremacist, it's not a possible thing.
It's like Clayton Bigsby was a joke.
They literally believe it.
candace owens
Yeah, they do.
They literally believe it.
The joke has become real life.
Parody has now become real life, right?
And, you know, the first thing is it starts, I think, with taking power away from the education system.
I am now a huge believer in homeschooling.
And, like, I know you were just showing me your mom does math videos.
I'm a huge believer.
Now you know there's a concerted effort to dumb children down in school.
And I'm not talking about a little bit.
I'm talking about kids cannot do basic math equations.
And yet they're learning critical race theory, they're learning about emotions and how to just react without actually knowing why you're reacting.
They know nothing about history but love to throw out terms like Nazi and fascist and they're just emotional babies.
And so this sort of blubbering of the American mind can only be reversed if you take your children out of the education system.
and go back to where this country began.
Plymouth, you know, when they landed in Plymouth Rock, it was a bunch of moms being like,
I'll take Monday, you take Tuesday.
It was homeschooling, and it was about community outreach organization.
I definitely will not put my child through the public school system in America,
and the private school system's questionable now too, because the government, the federal government
There's all these different requirements now, even if you want to homeschool because Kanye, you know, I was with him at the end of last year and he wanted to start a homeschool thing and he was talking to me about all of the roadblocks in California to prevent that from happening because the government wants your children.
They want to make sure your children are dumb.
tim pool
Think about what's going on with all the critical race theory stuff, these school board battles.
Then you have, at the same time, one of Trump's campaign promises in 2020 was school choice.
We see a big push from conservatives about parents having the right to choose where their kids will go to school, maybe a voucher program.
And the Democrats say it's racist to do that.
No, you can't allow that because then the rich people are going to do this, that, or otherwise.
Then we see what they're doing.
This is the trick that the left is doing right now with critical race theory.
They're saying, no one is teaching critical race theory because no one is showing the book White Fragility, which is critical white studies.
Nobody is reading Kimberlé Crenshaw.
You're all mistaken.
What they're doing is they're applying critical race theory into everything else.
Then they're indoctrinating kids with psychotic nonsense.
And then when the parents complain, what just happened?
We saw this in Loudoun County.
They arrested one guy because he was just standing there saying, I want to speak.
And they were like, the event's over.
You're not allowed.
And he's like, well, I was told I was allowed to speak.
And then they arrest him.
No, he didn't get arrested.
I think he got detained and received a summons.
So I think that's technically an arrest.
One guy got into a fight.
But this battle is going to be big, you know?
candace owens
Yeah, but it's also like what it's I'm always amazed when I go around and I speak on stage and the number one question I get is, what can we do?
What can we do?
It's like, it's your children and they're being preyed upon by predators.
It's like going around and having people ask me, hey Candace, I went to the playground today and a man showed my child pornography.
What should I do?
What?
That's literally what's happening.
They're showing children pornography and parents are like, I called the administration.
What do you mean you called the administration?
Call the cops!
You know, like teachers are not immune from pressing charges against teachers for doing crazy things.
And if you're telling me that if you took a kid to the playground and a random stranger, because that's what these teachers are, they're random strangers, right?
They're random strangers that have gone through radical, the radical education system.
They're also the dumbest people, by the way, people that get education degrees.
It's fascinating.
Thomas Sowell has a book called Inside the Education System,
The Lies, The Dogma, and the Indoctrination.
And he talks about how, in terms of their placements in their universities,
the dumbest are people that get education degrees, which is really fascinating, right?
And so you're getting these people that are not the brightest
but are convinced of their own intelligence because they're being handed these degrees and accolades.
And they go to teach.
I think about the kids you went to school with.
Like people that became teachers, they were really nice, like for at least high school,
like they were the nice kids, but they were not the brightest in our school.
They were the C-minus kids, they wanted to become teachers, and they should.
Great, we need teachers.
I support teachers, I love teachers, but they are convinced of their own education, and whatever they're told to teach, they teach, right?
And I know I'm painting a broad brush here, but, so they go in, they teach your kids all this stuff.
You don't know them, they're strangers, and yet you're too fearful to remove your child from what has obviously now become a predatorial situation, right?
You're preying on kids.
You're teaching them race.
You're teaching them how to hate one another.
You're separating kids and saying, you know, why are you embarrassed about your white privilege?
It's actually happened in New York school.
Like, go around the room and talk about why you should feel guilty for being white.
Your children are being attacked.
That's a predator.
Remove them.
That's, I mean, you're a parent.
tim pool
Forget it.
When they're teaching a lot of this stuff, which borders on inappropriate sexual behavior, do you think the police are actually going to do anything?
candace owens
There's laws.
They have to.
They have to.
Literally, if you're a child with that teacher, or she was a workshop, they do the workshops now.
Justine Eng was her name.
I can't think of her last name, but it was Justine Eng something.
And she's the one that did both of the workshops.
She was one that showed the pornography to the 16-year-olds at the Dalton School in New York City.
And she was the same one who showed the cartoon to first graders about masturbation.
About how it feels good to touch themselves.
Let my child into the first grade have seen a cartoon about masturbation and I'm going to go... If you literally showed a child on a playground a cartoon about masturbation, that's disseminating sexual material to a minor.
unidentified
Yep.
candace owens
Point blank.
If you go to the police and you file a report, there's no law saying to police, well, it happened in school, so you can't do anything as it was taught to them.
No.
The second one parent has the courage to do that, right?
And a teacher gets arrested, this crap is going to stop.
Because the teacher is going to be like, uh-uh.
unidentified
Let's go.
candace owens
You know what I'm saying?
I'm not getting arrested.
You're a sexual offender.
In my opinion, Justine Engstrapter registered as a sexual offender.
tim pool
Justine Ang Fonte, I think.
candace owens
She should be in prison.
tim pool
This is from a month ago.
Columbia prep students and parents re-left their class on porn literacy.
I can't say the words.
I can't say the words that were being taught.
It's like, this was a class that taught, if I say the words, YouTube will maybe even take this video down.
candace owens
Incestuous porn, like incestuous porn.
unidentified
What?
candace owens
Yeah, in class.
And the parents, there was no permission slip that went out.
It's disgusting.
ian crossland
To first-kindergarteners?
candace owens
That was to 16-year-olds, but she also was the same one who did the first graders.
The thing is, These people have that was that was a cartoon about masturbation
for the first graders About how it feels good to touch yourself and it was
talking it was car. It was a cartoon They give these people tight the title of teacher and that
ian crossland
it's similar to having the title of president If you win the title because you got picked, then you get this title.
But the real teachers are on the internet, like Jordan Peterson.
He makes videos.
No one has to be there.
People choose to listen and learn.
But these people are stuffed in and forced to listen to this person with a badge that says something.
tim pool
That's what they've realized.
That these kids are a captive audience.
Do you remember when the lockdown first started?
They started doing remote schools, and one of the teachers was caught, someone recorded this, where they were like, I'm worried the parents are gonna find out what we're teaching their kids now.
candace owens
Critical race theory.
And that's the thing, and the government understands this, and again, the irony being everyone is calling people, you're literally Hitler, you're literally Nazi.
Well, what was Nazi youth?
Okay, what was Nazi youth?
It was a way to plug them into a system, to get the children on board into the system, to believe everything that the government believed.
Well, that's the exact same thing that's happening right now.
It didn't change because it's happening on American soil.
They have obviously understood for six hours a day they have your children.
And now they're rinsing the schools of hard academics.
Math is racist.
That's an initiative by Bill Gates.
Look it up.
Bill Gates started an initiative saying that math...
Encouraging children to get the right answer is a form of white supremacy.
He's calling it equitable math and now he is pushing for the curriculum to stop teaching kids to get the right answer and to just allow them to tell you how they got the wrong one and they should still get a 100.
That's to make your child dumb.
tim pool
Check this out.
Check this out.
We went to... We were talking about this yesterday.
I went to a skate park over the weekend.
And skate parks notorious for kids being punk rock fighting with security guards Vandalizing property and yet the graffiti was at the skate park black lives matter Trans rights are human rights that was the graffiti and I started laughing I'm like, that's like an amazon.com like big bold thing when you go on it's like it's like it's like it's a it's an organization that It is mainstream pop culture, the embassies fly the flag, and little kids think they're being rebels by adopting a message that is used by U.S.
embassies and walmart.com.
candace owens
Right.
tim pool
That is youth indoctrination.
candace owens
And they don't get it because these kids, they're kids, right?
And the problem is that the adults are crazy, right?
So the adults are totally Looney Tunes, right?
So the problem is twofold.
It's that there's some weird Olympic event to be the most woke parent.
Like, oh, we're so accepting and loving because my child's a non-binary species and it's amazing, right?
That's like the new thing.
I'm like, I'm such an amazing parent to my child, the non-binary mermaid.
And then you couple that with the education system that's reinforcing that.
Okay, so how is it possible that when I went to school there was no such thing as non-binary?
We didn't have a single child that was non-binary, right?
We didn't have it, right?
So it's obviously not natural for all of these kids to be popping up now doing videos saying I'm non-binary because none of us had this issue when we were growing up and none of the people that I went to school with, now that it's even an option, have opted into this, right?
Because it just wasn't even presented to them, right?
It wasn't presented.
So it's not like, oh, they were just suppressing this and then now that it's a thing, I have all of these kids that I graduate with that are like, I was always non-binary.
No, it was like tomboys.
Like, I was a tomboy when I was in fifth grade.
tim pool
This is why we gotta be careful about saying it's just critical race theory in schools, because it's critical theory in general.
It's like the Marxist oppressor versus oppressed.
It is critical gender theory.
It is critical race theory.
It is critical white studies.
It is the idea that everything is bad.
You're the bad guy.
I'm always right.
No matter what happens, you know, you're the problem.
candace owens
It's like, why roll the dice?
Why roll the dice?
ian crossland
People are getting the internet.
Three-year-olds are on the internet.
So we're talking about these technocrats keeping their kids off the internet.
And there's a reason because when a three-year-old goes on and looks at like cartoons, but then it turns out it's a YouTube cartoon of Hitler dancing with Bugs Bunny.
And you're like, what is this?
And they're learning about like why it's okay to why gender doesn't matter.
candace owens
Raising children and a good example of this like in the mainstream is so Dwayne Wade, right?
He has a child who has come out as Trans I don't know He Had a son who now identifies as a daughter, right?
And I remember watching the story and you know him and Gabrielle Union came out and you know She's super woke and they were like so saying how like brave and encouraged they were and like this is just who this person was right, but then I remember seeing the photo and This is before he had declared his gender as being a woman or girl and seeing a photo of his son in a crop top, you know, at a pride parade and with
long, long, like Cardi B, like fingernails, right? Okay, well,
that obviously wasn't who this person was. Where'd you learn
the crop top and the long fingernails? Right? That's social social construct. That's a social construct, right? So you
can't tell me you know, you can say people have a natural affinity. Okay, one took up with the guy wanted to grow up,
but you didn't learn long fingernails, right? So where did
your child learn that with my question to Wayne Wade? How did
we start with the crop tops and the long nails? Because that's
not a thing. And the answer, of course, is gonna be the internet. Because if you're on Instagram today, that is a
culture, you know, not even the Kardashians. What's the Kylie
Jenner, you know, the lips, the fingernails, all this stuff.
It created an entire culture of this.
And you're a basketball player.
I know how aggressive that schedule is.
I know that it is hard to be a parent and be on the road playing X amount of games all year.
And so, what was happening while you were on the road, and he's in a split home as well, so it was with his mother.
It's likely that the internet helped raise your kid, and this is how we got here, but rather than have that conversation, which is much more severe and hard to have, we're just gonna go ahead and allow your 12-year-old, at least then 12-year-old, to make a permanent life decision.
tim pool
Okay, fine.
Three-year-old.
candace owens
Three?
tim pool
Dwayne Wade.
His trans daughter knew her identity since she was three years old.
candace owens
Which is scary because I babysat three-year-olds who literally think they're mermaids.
Like, I've had a three-year-old in a tub, she cried and screamed into a temper tantrum because she told me she was a mermaid.
And I cannot imagine giving credence to that and saying you know what sleep in
the bath tonight because I am sorry and I can't wait to go to tell the other
parents how amazing and woke I am because I'm accepting you as a mermaid.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure when I was three and my mom asked me what I wanted to be and
this is a true story I said a pumpkin. I like that.
Yeah, it was like, I was just like a little kid, and that was like a story my mom would say.
People would be like, what does he want to be?
And she's like, well, he said pumpkin, so.
candace owens
I really wanted to be a Power Ranger.
I still kind of do, but, you know.
tim pool
You know, he's joined the Marines.
candace owens
Nobody recognized my Power Ranger skills.
ian crossland
Which Power Ranger?
candace owens
Um, that's a very good question.
That's a very good question.
By the way, in the retrospect, how racist was it?
The yellow one's Asian!
The black one's black!
The white one's white!
The pink one's a girl!
unidentified
Oh, the pink one's a girl.
candace owens
That was so funny.
Yeah, that was amazing.
I love that part.
It was amazing.
Probably the robot.
ian crossland
Or would you build your own?
candace owens
That was like, working for all them, right?
Like, I love, I like, like Mighty Morphin Power Rangers was it.
unidentified
I was into Voltron.
tim pool
That's so weird though, like, wait, wait, how did, how did the original Power Rangers happen where they're like sitting there and like, let's make the Yellow Ranger Asian?
candace owens
Yeah.
unidentified
I know.
candace owens
It's so great.
It's so great.
tim pool
I know.
candace owens
I know.
I'm sure they're already canceled.
We just have to look, Google it.
I'm sure someone realized that 20 years later.
ian crossland
It goes back to like the seventies.
There was a show that was like the first one where there was like five people in different colored outfits that would come together to form like a big creature.
And then it became Voltron that it became the Power Rangers.
I don't know that original show.
I don't know what it's called.
tim pool
I have no idea.
unidentified
Okay.
candace owens
Yeah.
tim pool
Voltron.
ian crossland
Yeah, Voltron was the 80s version.
They were all these cat machines they would ride around and then they'd form this giant guy who had a big robot.
Ian, how old are you?
unidentified
42.
tim pool
It was hot.
candace owens
86.
ian crossland
I like the green power.
candace owens
We're a dinosaur.
tim pool
Remember when Mario Lopez was on someone's show and he said, I don't think three-year-olds know that they're trans?
candace owens
You know what show that was?
tim pool
Who was it?
candace owens
The Candace Ellen Show.
tim pool
That was your show!
He got in trouble!
candace owens
He did.
He came on my show.
And it was what was so bizarre.
And Mario's a friend of mine.
And like, what was so bizarre is like, we just didn't go there.
Like, it was like sort of just it was such a non question.
It wasn't like I was pushing him.
It was just sort of like, what's it like in Hollywood now?
Because it's the Woke Olympics.
And he was very nice.
And he just said, like, you know, for me personally, like, you know, I understand when you're an adult, do what you want, but just let kids be kids.
You know, and they And it was funny because it was like two months later after the interview and then suddenly like Mario Lopez is trending and there and everyone listened to it was like he literally said as nice as possible like hey, let kids grow up and They were in to cancel him and he apologized you he did apologize But I will say it was a very like it's always the same apology copy and pasted where like you have to say it and you know, I was bummed that he apologized but also not bummed because he's a great he's a fantastic person really a fantastic human being I think him and his wife
Are such an example of what it means to just be a very present family
I'm very impressed by them and just imagine everything you have being gone in a moment unless you do this
And so yes, I would I would stand by my guns But when you have three small kids it gets harder and it
gets harder and it gets harder, right?
tim pool
He is think about the future for those kids 100% true, but he's probably he's on the other side thinking of a future
candace owens
for those kids So it's like whatever schools they go to, I don't know, maybe they go to private school, they have a house, he's got a mortgage to pay.
So I've tried to be more understanding.
Um, I think when you have the autonomy to do it, it's a lot easier.
Like there's no excuse when there was like a person who was like no family and just takes it.
I'm like, come on, man.
But I get it because he just, and I, and by the way, I'm, I'm on your side.
I think he would have done that and he would have been a hero and other doors would have been open, but it's a very big risk to ask somebody to take who's that established.
tim pool
It's true, and I've said this, like I understand people who have kids who are scared to speak out, but it really sounds like you're betting the future will be communist wokeness, and so you want to keep your family safe.
candace owens
Yeah.
tim pool
But if everyone said no, then the future wouldn't be this woke trash.
candace owens
Let me tell you, if I could just, maybe one day I might, I won't, but like the A-list celebrities that are in my inbox that I speak to, you would be shocked at how many of them hate it.
I mean, It's almost, they are definitely, I think the majority of them hate it, right?
It's actually the majority of them hate it and I have conversations with them on the phone and I'm just like, man, you're like top player in the NBA.
It'd be amazing if you spoke out like, hey, you're the number one, two, R&B singer, you know, and they can't do it.
And so they just talk to us almost like we're, like I'm their therapist, you know, where they can just let it go.
tim pool
I've had people, rock stars, skateboarders, Call me some nearly crying like I'm scared man.
You know, I could I could live and lose everything at a moment I don't know what to do.
Yeah, and I'm like, you're gonna call me and talk to you for two hours.
It's like therapy It really is it's like anybody they're scared.
They're terrified They know they can talk to me because they watch my show and they trust it and I'm like you have how many?
Millions of followers you could come out right now and just say guys.
I do not think this is okay I think you need to chill and they're like, yeah, but I'll lose everything and I'm like you're okay You're a millionaire, dude!
unidentified
I know.
candace owens
I mean, that's why kudos to that guy, actually, the Mumford & Sons guy.
I read his piece today, actually.
It was the first time I read it.
I think he released it five days ago, and just saying, like, I couldn't, you know, I knew that I could lose everything, but at the same, at the end of the day, like, my soul wouldn't sit right if I allowed this radicalism to be the reason, and he just stepped down from the band, because there's things that are more important in life, and I think People like him are heroic, and to platform that, I think the more and more people that kind of inch forward and do it, eventually it'll just be an avalanche.
tim pool
You look at what happens with Veritas.
You know, when someone blows the whistle and goes to Veritas, what happened?
That Facebook guy raised half a million bucks.
Because there are people who will support you.
When you come out and you be brave, you will not be left holding the bag.
And I think what James is doing is incredible, because he's proving it.
Yeah.
He's saying, be brave.
And then he's like, and this guy got half a million dollars.
That's true.
ian crossland
I was just thinking, is it going to take like another Jesus or Socrates that speaks the truth, speaks the truth, society revolts, executes the person, and then 50 or 100 years later, we realize what have we done?
Why?
What have we?
This person was saying the right thing.
But no, it's not going to take that because we have people like James.
This upsurgence is happening all at once and people are making half a million bucks after the fact.
So we've evolved.
tim pool
Are you comparing James O'Keefe to Jesus or Socrates?
ian crossland
All of us, baby.
We all have that in us to speak up against the empire.
And that's if we do it together.
candace owens
It's funny because I just recently reread Plato's Apology and it's just incredible how history repeats itself and calling out the corruption of senators and And the courage that I took to know that there was no upside other than, you know, death and to have it be noble.
And, you know, I hear that same message.
That was kind of my mentality when I sort of jumped out of the window.
And, you know, I know that was Kanye's mentality if you listen to his music.
I mean, a lot of the courage that I have is because I listened to so much Kanye West.
And to me, I don't have the slave mentality, right?
So I'd rather be executed running away.
Right?
Towards freedom.
Like, I'm definitely the slave that would have run away from the plantation.
I'm the Harriet Tubman.
I'm like, you know, I'm the Kanye West.
I'm the, you know, pick a point in time.
I'm the Socrates asking people walking down the street, asking them questions about what they think.
But because freedom is natural to me.
But I don't know, as I was saying earlier, if it's natural for everybody.
I wonder now, as I look at this society and look at COVID-19, people that were like, please lock us down.
Please put us in our homes.
Please tell me when to see my mom and dad.
I'm like, Freedom is scary.
Freedom is dangerous.
to be enslaved and this model of slave and master, meaning government and people that
it controls, will never be broken.
tim pool
Freedom is scary.
Freedom is dangerous.
For those of us that are adults, we're okay with that.
You know what I did today?
I went and I picked a bunch of wild berries and then I cooked them and ate them.
candace owens
Wow.
I gotta get on that.
Like it's one thing that I'm definitely lacking in is I think it is so important for us to know how to farm.
ian crossland
Yeah.
candace owens
It's like so important.
I mean the amount of control you give up when you can't feed yourself is that's like the next unlock the next layer of the Candace Owens game.
Candace Owens farms.
ian crossland
When you pull the weed out super smooth.
It's so rewarding.
candace owens
And my last name is Farmer.
I just got married and now it's even weirder to be like Candace Farmer and literally Farms.
tim pool
I want to talk about you mentioned the lockdown stuff because we got a story.
It's a bit personal.
I'm talking about a friend of mine who said he was cool with me sharing his posts.
He didn't make them publicly either way.
And right now we have the Delta variant.
Now I think New York, I'm not sure if it's New York, they're saying they're not going to do another lockdown.
But LA is saying we're bringing back the mask guidelines because the Delta variant is scary.
The first thing I'm going to say as a disclaimer to this, I am, I, look,
I'm going to be telling a story about one person.
I don't want this to be a shocking story.
Like, I don't want it to be shock value or fear mongering on the vaccine or anything like that.
I just think these are things we need to talk about.
Brett Weinstein talks a bit about this on his show.
He's been demonetized.
He's been given a strike over this.
So I'm gonna say this.
Talk to your doctor.
Raise your concerns with your doctor.
If you're unsatisfied, you get a second opinion.
These are normal things that people do.
No one's forcing you to, like, listen to only one person.
You can talk to as many doctors as you want.
candace owens
Just make sure you're getting- Except for Facebook, who's forcing you to listen to one person, and that's Dr. Fauci, but go ahead.
tim pool
Yes, well, fair point, fair point.
You too, too.
But, what I mean is like, in your daily life, you go to your doctor, and if you don't like what they're saying, you call another doctor.
And you keep in these conversations.
And I've talked to people, we've had people on the show who've said they've had good doctors who have given them sound advice.
But I want to show you this, because this pertains a lot to people... I'm not trying to be mean to my friend.
He's a good friend of mine.
I've known him since I was a kid.
But a lot of people just go along with whatever's being said.
So I'll give you the gist of it.
My friend, uh, got the vaccine, and he got nerve damage.
And now his legs, and he has problems in his legs and arms.
He was in the hospital for this.
And he said that after a second dose, this was over a month ago, he started feeling pins and needles in his arms and legs.
candace owens
Happened to my girlfriend, pins and needles, but she had it instantly.
tim pool
He said it was a couple days later, and then eventually he was struggling to walk, he was having tremors, and his arms and legs felt like they weighed 120 pounds.
He ends up in the hospital.
He just posted a message.
I tweeted it out.
He said, I made a hard decision today.
I am officially stepping away from music for the foreseeable future.
It breaks my heart that my injury has led to this, but with complications to my living situation, as well as constant fatigue and pain, I can no longer effectively serve my musical projects to the best of my abilities.
I love my bandmates and our fans and friends.
It's been a wonderful 20 years of shows and great times.
I hope I can return to the stage one day soon.
Till then, peace and love.
Again, I'm not trying to say this is indicative of every single person this has happened to.
I just think it's important that we have these honest conversations because if you suppress them, what happens?
People freak out, they get scared, they get paranoid.
Okay, it's simple.
Something bad happened to my friend.
What I'm trying to point out is that he had already had the COVID.
So he was immune.
He wanted to play shows.
The stores, these venues, they don't know anything about your medical history.
So they just say, I don't care.
If you got the vaccine, you can play.
So he goes to get it.
And then he ends up getting it.
And what they think now is there have been doctors recommending that if you've had the COVID at a certain within a certain time, you can't get vaccinated until a certain time after or something like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
candace owens
Well, none of this is none of this is no it's no longer conspiracy theory we're talking about, because now the CDC had to look into myocarditis, the kids that were having the heart inflammation.
Now it's a warning.
As of yesterday, they said there's now officially a warning and you can look up which on the Pfizer and the Moderna vaccine regarding potential heart inflammation side effects, which is incredible.
Because it took this long for them to admit it and we've all known this because we're talking to our friends and we've been censored.
So there's so much, I mean, there's so many people that should be sued for censoring this information because people that, if we had just known and had an honest conversation, I actually think more people would be inclined to get the vaccine if there was an honest conversation as opposed to the mass censorship that we've seen.
The fact that you even have to start with, I'm just saying, you know, is the reason people don't trust Big Pharma or trust YouTube or trust Facebook because they're not allowed to talk about what's happening.
You know, I'm obviously a woman in her childbearing years.
I had a girlfriend, and I've talked about this on my show.
She's a doctor.
She had to get the vaccine, got it, and, you know, bled for an extraordinary amount of time and hasn't had a normal menstruation cycle since, right?
And so that was another story that kept popping up, and now they're looking into it, you know, looking into it finally, which means that enough has happened to enough people where they have to look into it.
And maybe two months from now, they'll admit that, you know, it's causing some effects with menstruation.
Who knows?
Who knows, right?
But here is what I will just say so we can keep this conversation universal, which will keep us off the ice with the YouTube censorship lords.
Common sense.
It's just not that common anymore, right?
If we put a peanut in the middle of this table.
Peanuts are good.
I like peanuts.
unidentified
I like peanuts.
candace owens
If every single person had a peanut in the world, would all of us be feeling the same way about peanuts?
Some people would be dead, right?
People have allergies, right?
Like there are... Me, I have a very severe allergy to mold.
Like severe, shut down my life.
Like if there is mold growing in a home it is that bad, right?
And everybody has that.
Some people can be around mold and they'll be totally fine, right?
So if you talk about any product, styrofoam, it doesn't matter what it is, people have the strangest allergies ever, right?
Weird allergies.
Some people are allergic to dog hair, cat hair, human hair, right?
And we watch these episodes of all these strange things and it's obviously because what?
We're not all the same.
That's common sense.
We're not all the same.
We have different backgrounds, right?
Suddenly you apply this to medicine And people go, that's impossible, that's a conspiracy theory.
That should just indicate to you the power that big pharma, a trillion dollar industry has, where it is forcing people, right, or it's causing people to not think with common sense, which is that one size does not fit all.
tim pool
This is my main issue with all of this.
People are going to McDonald's and there's like a vaccine station outside.
They're going to bars and they're drunk.
Now I want to make sure I show that you mentioned the myocarditis.
It is a fact.
CDC does now issue a warning.
Myocarditis and pericarditis following mRNA vaccination.
They do mention, first thing, more than 177 million people have received at least one dose of the COVID-19 vaccine in the U.S.
The CDC continues to monitor the safety of the COVID vaccines for any health problems that happen after vaccination.
Since April 2021, there have been more than a thousand reports to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System of cases of inflammation of the heart called myocarditis and pericarditis happening after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination.
These reports are rare given the hundreds of millions of vaccine doses administered and have been reported after mRNA COVID vaccination, particularly in adolescents and young adults.
CDC and its partners are actively monitoring these reports by reviewing data and medical records to learn more about what happened and to understand any relationship to COVID-19 vaccination.
candace owens
You know what else is rare?
Death from COVID-19.
ian crossland
Very rare.
candace owens
Exceedingly rare, but that didn't stop them from shutting down all of society.
But now all of a sudden, this myocarditis and this symptom is rare, and it's not stopping
them from doing the vaccines.
They're not locking down the vaccines.
So it's just an interesting thing when rare matters to Big Pharma and when it doesn't
matter to Big Pharma.
And it's interesting that when they can make money, exceedingly rare is fine, keep doing
But if they can't make money, right, exceedingly rare, it doesn't mean anything to them.
It's like, oh, well, you know.
tim pool
COVID is more dangerous than the vaccine.
If you just look at, like, I think it's like, what, 0.2, 0.3?
I don't want to get the numbers wrong on the mortality rate from COVID.
It is mostly older people.
It is mostly comorbidities.
candace owens
But of the people who got COVID... Yeah, to young people, which one's more dangerous?
To the teenagers that are getting myocarditis, which one's more dangerous?
tim pool
Yeah, so... Question mark.
candace owens
Well, let's put question mark.
Let's just put question mark.
Which one is more dangerous for the teenagers and the children?
ian crossland
You know, the crazy thing is we don't know because they didn't do studies for years on the vaccines before they released them to the public.
candace owens
And every time people said that, you know, it's still not FDA approved.
It's still, it's, you know, it's got... The EUA.
tim pool
Emergency Use Authorization.
candace owens
Yeah, exactly.
It's got Emergency Use Authorization.
tim pool
But I do think one of them, and I'm not, I don't know which one, so I'm not going to say, is approved for youth or something like that, like 12 to 17.
They got approval for... Is that true?
They might just be EUA approval.
candace owens
EUA approval.
Yeah, when they start, they're doing it younger and younger.
tim pool
I want to read this.
They mentioned confirmed cases occurred mostly in male adolescents and young adults aged 16 years or older, more often after getting the second dose than the first dose, and typically within several days of COVID-19 vaccination.
So I will stress, 177 million doses, okay?
You need to decide what's right for your family.
You need to ask your doctor for sound medical advice.
Don't get medical advice from people like me on the internet, or from comedians, or from TV doctors.
We're probably in trouble for even talking about it.
That's the name of the game of censorship.
candace owens
Because that's how much power Big Pharma has, and that's because Big Pharma gives billions and billions of dollars to YouTube and Facebook and Twitter, right?
So right now the YouTube lords are going, Oh my gosh, we're getting this huge check from Big Pharma and we need to make sure that we protect that money that we get.
And so us having a conversation that should be had, which is an important conversation about health and how we're all different and people, they should allow this if they cared about the well-being of people, get censored because they care about their paychecks.
And that's the society that we live in, right?
tim pool
And I'll stress, we're not recommending anyone do anything.
candace owens
No.
Do what's good for you.
No, for me, I had a vaccine reaction years ago.
I'm not playing with it.
You know, I have no interest in getting the vaccine.
That doesn't mean that I'm telling you to do it or not do it.
I have friends that have gotten it and friends that have not gotten it.
And that autonomy used to be okay.
tim pool
This is the line I'm trying to dance, right?
If you do not have conversations about the negative, then what happens to someone who experiences the negative?
ian crossland
They're confused and they get angry.
candace owens
Well, they go deep down into the conspiracy theories.
And that's what's wrong.
And that's what I've been saying.
Actually, I think more people are less inclined to get it now because there's so obviously not an honest conversation being had.
tim pool
So this is what happens.
I tweeted this story and I get a bunch of lefties being like, oh, you had one friend.
So you're saying the millions?
And I'm like, no, no, I'm not saying any of that.
I'm just saying like, here's a story from my friend.
It's a tragic story.
We need to have a conversation about what this means and what the results will be because it is affecting people this way.
And I think people should talk to their doctors to make sure they're getting sound medical advice because I'm not giving it.
And just because I post one story, most of the people I know, the overwhelming majority, No problems whatsoever.
I don't want to name the people who've come on the show who've talked about this privately, because they're private medical information.
We've had a ton of guests who are like, I had no side effects whatsoever.
But can we talk about it without getting banned?
We'll see.
unidentified
Right.
candace owens
Well, I mean, Eric Clapton had a similar response.
He said he thought he would never play guitar again.
And yeah, so I mean, I think one of the things I think is the sad, like, that is most sad about it is that what they're doing now, and this is why I did a whole episode talking about my friend who, you know, has not had a regular menstruation cycle since getting the vaccine, and she's like, we're actually people that did everything they told us to do, and they're being gaslit, right?
So they did what they're supposed to do.
They stayed locked down.
They didn't go to work.
They lost money.
And then when things opened up and the vaccine became available, they got the vaccine.
So they followed all government orders.
And now that same government is gaslighting them when they say, oh, I had a weird reaction.
They go, that's not possible.
So, for right now, the menstruation thing hasn't been looked into enough.
There's tons of articles on it, but they're like, it's hearsay.
That's what they do.
And she's like, now I'm being gaslit from the same people that I listen to.
That's a horrible feeling, right?
And that's why I talk about this.
I'm like, they're not being listened to and they did all of the listening.
And I'll leave it with this joke.
What's the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth?
tim pool
Eight months.
Yeah.
But I want to mention something, too.
There's two big things that I talk about with this.
I really do think there's a lot of people online who will see a handful of these stories and hyper focus on them and then think like it's the apocalypse.
And I've heard some really crazy conspiracies about the vaccine.
I'm like, dude, there's not a zombie apocalypse.
There's not.
People are saying in two years, everyone's going to die.
And I'm like, that's insane, dude.
candace owens
That's not crazy, though.
Imagine if that did happen.
Like, I know, but like, let's create a movie.
Let's create a movie right now.
Obviously, it's not going to happen, but what if it did?
Imagine if every person you knew who got the vaccine died.
That's crazy.
That's a crazy, funny movie to consider.
It's not funny.
I mean, terribly, like, horrible.
ian crossland
Funny, strange.
candace owens
Funny, strange.
Yeah, like, whoa.
tim pool
People want to believe the world is this, like, movie.
And I tell people this, like, silencers aren't real.
ian crossland
Guns don't go- Oh, someone just messaged me, like, can you tell Tim that some silencers do sound like the movies?
You can, like, treat them and make it so it's like, you can't hear it.
tim pool
I heard you, dude.
ian crossland
Thanks for messaging me.
tim pool
But that's what James Bond did.
on a time zone goes, it's like, okay, okay. Anyway, that's what James Bond did. Right?
Movies, not real life. Okay, sure. There are certainly some very, very quiet. I didn't look
into it. It probably subsonic rounds. I don't know enough about it, but sure. Fine. The point is
apocalyptic film though, right? Here's I'm worried about two things. One, how many for sure, like I
can talk about my friend, because I think we need to have these conversations, but how many of these
news stories over exaggerate. There was one story from the New York post where they were like two
days after getting a vaccine, a college student died.
And at the bottom it's like the vaccine had nothing to do with his death.
It was like alcohol related or something like that.
candace owens
That was the same with COVID-19.
I remember like there was like a five-year-old died of COVID-19 and then like a little thing at the bottom said like she also had meningitis.
I'm like oh!
ian crossland
Oh my gosh!
candace owens
Okay so she probably died from the meningitis not the COVID-19 but they were doing the postmortem testing and I notoriously blew up the story of the governor of Connecticut who should be imprisoned for a lie that he told saying an infant died of COVID-19.
Didn't George Floyd have COVID?
channels because it was a Connecticut story and I'm from Connecticut and my
sisters were both pregnant at the time and this story traumatized them. I
decided to get to bottom because I knew he was lying. It was what he freezed it.
Yeah, of the COVID-19 complications and then I find out that actually the baby
was suffocated by its drug addict mother and then in post-mortem testing they
tested for COVID-19 and that was enough to be on the list.
Didn't George Floyd have COVID? He did. Yeah, yeah.
So I mean, and so it's like, it's just one of those things that's so frustrating, because like, again, when the media wants to be evasive, they're evasive.
And then like, all of this data, I know Tucker Carlson, of course, he got in trouble by literally reading the VAERS data and saying, you know, this is not good, what we're seeing.
And they're like, there's no way to confirm that data.
I'm like, okay, well, it was enough when, when people were getting COVID-19 for you to add to the death ticker.
But I guess it's not enough when people are talking about vaccines.
And again, only one of those, one of those things makes, you know, big pharma money.
tim pool
That's the double standard.
That during COVID there was one viral video apparently like someone got into a motorcycle accident and then had COVID and I think it was a health official from Illinois who mentioned like that will be listed because a person died with COVID.
candace owens
She did.
I remember watching the video.
tim pool
We kept hearing, I mean it's really really extreme, if it saves one life Right?
When it comes to Big Pharma, when it comes to just going 100% in one direction when it's the establishment to the left, you're allowed to.
Big Pharma when it comes to just
Going 100% in one direction when it's when it's the establishment to the left
You're allowed to we can barely even have conversations about adverse reactions without getting banned on YouTube.
candace owens
Yeah, well I do And I talked about it on Instagram, because like I said, I had a bad reaction to the Gardasil vaccine.
And from then I just said, I will never stay silent about it.
And it's incredible how many women have written me and just said, thank you for talking about this, because so many women were injured by that vaccine.
tim pool
You know what their mentality is?
candace owens
It was so bad.
tim pool
You know, but you know their mentality is though the the officials say look we know that vaccine
injuries are real. We know that there's a certain percentage that's why the CDC mentions look we had
177 million over a thousand myocarditis reports because they will publicly say this and I think
Fauci even did. It is worth it because you save more lives with the vaccine than the people who
get hurt by it.
And the people who get hurt by it are not likely to die.
And that's literally been their line of thinking.
It's really fascinating because it's this very utilitarian versus deontological argument.
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
Okay, we vaccinate everybody.
There will be some injuries to people, but that's okay.
It's the trolley problem, right?
You've got the five people on one side, one person on the other, the train's gonna hit the five people, you can pull the lever, it'll hit the one person, but you chose to hit that one person.
candace owens
Right.
tim pool
How many people probably would just be fine if they went to their doctors, asked for medical advice, the doctor said, here's what I recommend for you, and it wasn't the vaccine, and they went home and they never got COVID, nothing happened?
candace owens
Yeah, but how disgusting that people that get COVID are still being told they have to get the vaccine.
Like literally science saying to you, we are smarter than the human body.
And like, so those natural antibodies, no, you need to get these fake ones, you know?
And it's so, that's even more bizarre.
Is that like, they haven't even isolated the virus.
They've created a vaccine.
They say, if you get the virus, you know, this will, you'll have less of a chance of dying.
Even though, as I said, if you're young, you have remarkably, like virtually non-existent chance of dying anyways.
Forcing you to get it, to be able to go back to school and to resume your normal life.
And, you know, just because, I don't know, they decided that's totally necessary.
And again, they just seem so hypocritical because it's like they either care about the few for the all or they don't.
It's the exact opposite.
They're sending mixed signals right now.
They're telling us vaccines work, but then saying that if you don't have the vaccine, you should be masked.
And it's like, well, vaccines work.
unidentified
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
tim pool
The Delta variant?
The World Health Organization says now even with the vaccine, you should be wearing a mask and socially That's new, but even before when they were saying vaccines work, right?
candace owens
If vaccines work, why do you care?
I am not vaccinated.
Why do you care if I am next to someone who is vaccinated?
Because they should be protected.
And we know that they're not protected because Bill Maher, all these people are coming out, they got the vaccine and they're still getting COVID-19.
So now what was the exercise about?
If they can still catch it and his wasn't the Delta variant, right?
If people are still getting COVID-19 after getting the vaccine, now explain to us what the song and dance is about.
tim pool
Well, this is interesting because the YouTube rules actually say you can't state the vaccine is a guarantee and you can't state the vaccine doesn't work.
You have to actually say it mostly works.
Like it's it's it's bizarre.
There's a huge list of YouTube's rules.
And I got an official statement from them.
candace owens
Me too, from Facebook.
Anything that creates vaccine hesitancy will be banned.
tim pool
Well, if it's the truth on YouTube.
This was interesting because Reuters came out with a story.
Oxford did a study on ivermectin.
And they said it may be effective but they're still doing trials.
I want to make sure that's very clear because YouTube asked me to.
And they said all that matters when you're talking about hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, as you mentioned, the FDA says it's not approved, it's not effective, and tell people to talk to their doctor and you should be fine.
So, okay, we'll see if that's enough for them.
But I kind of feel like it won't be because we've certainly been flying close to the sun in this one.
candace owens
Yeah, man.
Common sense.
Nine new billionaires have been minted.
The governments have extraordinary powers since this COVID-19 thing.
But, okay, sure.
ian crossland
I get passionate about physical health.
The medical industry has it, I don't know what you call it, what do they call it, where they cut stuff out if it's infected rather than try and treat it.
But basically it's been around since the Rockefeller built this industry.
Osteopathic medicine, where you'll cut out a problem instead of trying to treat it from the inside by treating the lymphatic system.
So this whole system is built on treating the blood after the fact.
Let's try and pump some.
Fix your lymphatic system's acidity by like eating the right foods.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no.
Oh, hold on, hold on, bro.
Like, I genuinely...
When I see these like YouTube videos and they get into it and they start talking about what you should be doing and
what you can do, I'm not a fan of that.
Steve Jobs thought he was going to drink fruit and cure his cancer.
So like, I don't, I don't, I don't like...
ian crossland
There's no cure for it.
tim pool
No, no, I don't like the idea of, like, I'm just stopping you because... Eating healthy?
ian crossland
I mean, we gotta start at the bottom.
candace owens
Do you mean, like, preventative from getting sick before?
Yes, yes, if the medical industry was preventative.
Like, he's correct.
Yeah, of course it's not preventative.
They're never trying to like there's so many steps that can happen before you get to like a person that and by the way
This is kind of making me think of when you said that like the Britney Spears thing
I've been kind of talking about a lot because she kind of just obviously this has been a big story
She came out and says that she's been in prison And she definitely has been and people I believe people
should go to prison for what they did to her because it's just it's incomprehensible
She had this very obvious out in the front mental breakdown, but like the reason for that mental breakdown was very
clear She's begging the paparazzi leave her alone. They didn't it
was insane and it reminded me of
When I was in college, this was actually a moment in my life that changed my life
And I will never forget the name of the girl who did this her name was Zoe Esposito
All teenage girls are like on the brink of suicide Like we're just highly emotional.
I'm being hyperbolic obviously, but like, you know, it's just being a teenager in general, right?
It's just a lot more angst.
Like that's one time I don't want to go back to is being a teenager.
And my boyfriend and I were in high school when we broke up.
And I was in, he was my high school boyfriend.
I was in my freshman year of college.
We broke up on the phone and I was like devastated.
Well, I tell you like devastated, like screaming, crying, like the RA came to check on me.
Like I was like, I couldn't stop crying, wouldn't get out of bed.
My dad was so scared because he had never heard me sound like that.
But he got in his car and he drove up the two and a half hours from, to university and picked me up from my dorm and took me home.
You know, like what is wrong with Mike?
I couldn't do, I wouldn't eat nothing.
And took me to the doctor because that's what you do, I guess.
Your child's sad.
You take him to the doctor.
And the doctor wrote me a full prescription for Xanax because he's like, you know, you're crying a lot.
Xanax will help you deal with the anxiety of this breakup and whatever.
So I go back to university that night and I've got this Xanax prescription and this girl Zoe, thank God, met me in the dorm because she was waiting for me to get back and she talks to me.
I'm like, well, the doctor gave me Xanax.
And she's like, I'm just going to ask you a question.
She was like, why are you going to take that pill?
And I was like, because I'm really sad.
And she was like, why are you sad?
Like, you know, why are you so sad?
And I said, you know, because me and so and so broke up.
And she said, I have this thing that if you can answer the question, why?
Right?
You don't need a pill.
Like that's a human emotion.
And you're gonna have to learn to deal with that emotion, right?
And now we kind of live in a society which doesn't believe in people dealing with any emotions and it's sort of like, you know, we over-prescribe for everything, right?
So it's like, you know, now you have the kids, notoriously, that are hyper six-year-olds.
Six years are supposed to be hyper and jumping off it put him on Ritalin put my eye roll your kid won't focus on map
It's like cuz he literally wants to be outside Screaming and jumping from the monkey bars and like, you
know jumping off of a tire swing inside You're telling him to focus on math
like that's a normal thing and So I I see what you're talking about regarding like all of
these things before you get to the thing because now I know those girls
Who took the Xanax and they're 30 and they're out of their minds, you know
Because every time they feel an emotion they put a pill They don't know how to deal with regular anxiety, you know, because they don't know that, like, you have to figure out how to deal with the thing, you know?
tim pool
I think these big tech companies don't want to have any liability for self-harm.
So when I was talking with Jack Dorsey, for instance, on the Joe Rogan show, What did Jack say?
He's like, well, there's a lot of people who are prone to suicide, so we need to protect that group.
What is YouTube saying right now when it comes to their rules and all of this stuff?
Just make sure you tell people to go to their own doctor.
Now, I genuinely do believe Joe Rogan should not be giving medical advice, and you should be going to your doctor, and I'm not giving anybody advice.
Go to your doctor.
But they're worried that someone's gonna do something, they're gonna blame YouTube, they're gonna blame Twitter, and they're gonna have to pay out for it.
ian crossland
I think it's cool to talk about all the COVID stuff is one thing, but then talking about the medical industry is a whole other... It's very important.
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Could you imagine what's going to happen to all the Bernie Sanders supporters who want universal health care when they start making videos complaining about the big pharmaceutical industries, the cost of health care, their concerns about how drugs are given out to make money instead of actually curing diseases?
Oh, YouTube's gonna ban all of those Bernie bros.
candace owens
Well, America is like that.
I mean, especially, you know, obviously I'm married to a Brit and when you go overseas or you go to Europe and you see the relationship that they have, it's just, we over-prescribe.
Our idea is to not treat anything, you know, to diagnose it before you even understand it and to give somebody a pill.
Right?
And so like obviously the fact that I was able to, I knew why I was sad.
You know what I mean?
I knew why I was sad.
It wasn't like I was just like woke up, broke down crying and didn't know why.
Then you say, okay, maybe there's some, you know, chemical imbalance.
And increasingly we're getting people that don't, don't even understand themselves before they're kind of put onto the big pharma track, which is a pill to manage everything in life.
And then when When they don't have that pill and they feel an emotion coming up, their thing is, how do I get rid of it?
How do I make it go away?
ian crossland
How do I make it go away?
After you had that conversation with Zoe, what was your experience for the next few... How did you kind of figure it out?
candace owens
It still sucks.
I was still sad.
There you go.
I was still sad.
I threw all the pills out because it just made so much logical sense what she said.
And I thank God because I'm like, I don't know what would happen if I just was taking Xanax all the time.
But I had that mentality of I recognize I'm sad because this thing happened and I now, I'm able to deal with sadness because I know what it feels like.
If you have anxiety, oh my god, I have anxiety, I have to take a pill, I have to take a pill.
Why are you anxious?
Because I have finals.
Okay, well then you know why.
You're anxious, so you've got to figure out how to channel that, because it's not healthy to keep thinking that you just take something to make human emotions go away.
Now, of course, there's a line where, like, okay, then you say, like, you just brought up, well, what about the kid who's going to, like, actually just kill himself, right?
tim pool
Well, what about the people with actual chemical imbalances that need medication?
candace owens
And that's what Zoe said.
She said, if you said to me, Candace, I'm crying, I don't know why.
ian crossland
What if I said to you, I have anxiety because of the military-industrial complex?
tim pool
I'd be like, bro, turn off YouTube.
ian crossland
I don't want to pill it out, but like, what's the solution?
I'm being serious.
This is a real question, by the way.
tim pool
The solution is to talk to a medical professional and ask them for a medical opinion.
And if you're unhappy, you get a second opinion.
Well, it could be like a psychiatrist.
ian crossland
I mean, I just want to treat the problem.
tim pool
Your anxiety?
ian crossland
Yeah, like, I have anxiety because a military-industrial complex was built in the, I think, the 40s to be the world police, and I'm concerned.
tim pool
You should talk about it.
I don't think you should have anxiety over that.
ian crossland
Okay.
tim pool
I mean, it is a problem.
candace owens
People have anxiety over... Anxiety is a real thing.
You just get anxious sometimes about whatever it is.
I mean, but people don't know... What was also really about it is that, increasingly, is people don't realize that that's a human emotion that you're gonna have to learn to deal with, you know, in every capacity.
And unless it's...
crushing and overwhelming and you feel like you can't like, you know, I don't know.
Again, opinion.
Talk to your doctor.
But I'm just talking about a personal experience that happened to me, and it really shaped my my mindset on those things.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm not.
And I want to make sure this is clear, too.
Like, I'm not just saying talk to your doctor because YouTube says it.
I legit was like when Joe Rogan said people shouldn't get the vaccine.
I was like, Joe, come on, like people shouldn't be asking a comedian or a TV doctor for advice.
candace owens
Yeah, but it's not advice.
It's an opinion.
unidentified
Right.
candace owens
So why?
That's my thing is like, why can't you have an opinion?
Like, if you said, like, if I just said to you, like, you know, teenagers shouldn't be taking Xanax.
Like, why is it suddenly like, you're not a doctor, how dare you?
It's like, dude, it's just an opinion.
Like, now everyone's, like, too offended to hear people's opinions.
Like, I have an opinion when I was, you know, working with Charlie Kirk.
Charlie was running at one point ten miles a day, right?
Literally, like a psychopath.
A total psychopath.
Everywhere we went.
We were traveling five times a week.
He would just grab his shoes and go.
And I would say to him over and over again, you really shouldn't run five, ten miles a day.
I'm not a freaking P.E.
teacher.
I'm not like, you know, but I was like, that's not going to be can't be good for your joints.
And Charlie had the opinion that you should do it.
You should be able to give your opinion.
And then all of a sudden what happened?
Charlie hurt his back and Charlie can't run anymore.
So guess what?
I didn't have to be a P.E.
teacher.
And now I always say to him, you know what, Charlie, I hate to say this, but I told you so.
I told you so.
Why can't Joe Rogan have an opinion?
ian crossland
Well, there's a difference between having an opinion and expressing an opinion.
tim pool
No, no, that's fine.
That's a good point.
But with great power comes great responsibility.
And so they didn't ban Joe for saying this.
Joe just came out.
I don't think, you know, Joe's response was listen to Fauci, I'm an idiot.
I'm like no, no, no, no, no.
Fauci is a TV doctor.
We had someone on the show who mentioned, I don't know, Crowder mentioned this.
He put out this video where he said his wife went to the doctor and because of her medical issues, the doctor said, you are not a candidate for the vaccine.
And that's like a legitimate doctor saying, here's the things you need to understand about why you are or aren't, you know, should be doing this.
Fauci's the guy who goes on TV and says, everybody should just go and get it.
It's like, stop, stop.
They're gonna be people who walk to a bar and get drunk, and these guys don't know their medical history.
And then what?
Is Fauci gonna be held responsible?
candace owens
Yeah, but why should Joe Rogan... I don't like this argument, and I'm gonna say I disagree with you on this, because Joe Rogan is a podcaster.
He's the guy who likes UFC.
He talks.
Yes, he has a big following.
So what?
Why aren't we teaching people to better discern who you should be getting information from, right?
Why are we trying to make it seem like now that he has a big platform, now everything he says, like, you know, he has to take, you know, everything... At the same time though, and here's why that also annoys me, is because let...
Any of these Hollywood celebrities be like let your kids pick your gender and we know obviously we can lead to
suicide people You know people mutilating their bodies when young all of
these things that are much more complex. We don't kill them It's because they have an issue with this particular
instance of him sharing his opinion. You mean ban them.
Yeah, we ban them Yeah, exactly.
Make them go away.
But it's because of this particular instance, because it's surrounding Big Pharma, there's a lot more sensitivities.
He gives his opinion about a ton of stuff.
I mean, he could say, do yoga.
He's talked about medicine.
He talked about psychedelics, whatever.
It's a podcast.
Let him have his opinion about things.
tim pool
Joe Rogan didn't get banned over him telling that story.
Like, what I mean is like people who go on YouTube and tell people to do something.
They're like, you should do this.
Here's what you should do.
I'm like, nah, no, no, no.
Like you, like if you, like Dr. Fauci going on TV and telling people what to do, there's going to be people who look when, when Donald Trump mentioned hydroxychloroquine and then everyone started freaking out, what if people actually start eating fish food?
Like that one story, which turned out to be bunk, I guess.
What's the difference between Dr. Fauci saying the same thing?
candace owens
So then you also disagree with all the celebrities doing the photos of them getting the shot in the arm.
tim pool
Absolutely.
Well, when they tell you to go do something.
candace owens
They do.
tim pool
They should all be saying, ask your doctor if this is right for you.
And they don't.
I know.
unidentified
I know.
candace owens
That's the problem.
It's like Joe Rogan's getting hit for what everybody is doing, but if it's on the other end of the spectrum, it's fine.
It's irresponsible for a bunch of people to be sticking their arms in and being like, get the vaccine.
You know what I mean?
Get the vaccine today.
Did what I did today.
Got the shot.
It's equally as irresponsible.
In my opinion, raise smarter human beings.
Okay, if you're so dumb that you think that every one of your life decisions should be informed by Joe Rogan, okay?
You've got a lot bigger... No, but same to anybody, right?
I mean, not life decisions, but medical decisions, right?
Anybody, or you, or me, if you're so dumb that you think that everything you do should be exactly what Tim does, or what Candice does, or what Joe Rogan does, I'm throwing us all in the same box here, then you probably shouldn't have the internet, because you're a very malleable mind, And like, it's just not a safe place for you to be.
Like, you need a safe space.
tim pool
I just mentioned how, like, earlier I was like, I picked wild berries and then we cooked them.
We made wild berry chicken.
It was amazing.
Like, we cooked them down with some lemon juice in it.
candace owens
Let one person do the wrong wild berry and there you go.
unidentified
Tim said to make wild berries and I'm poisoned.
tim pool
Remember the media was saying eat cicadas?
unidentified
The whole time I'm like, no, don't eat bugs off the ground!
tim pool
Dirty!
There's a story about a dude who ate like a slug on a dare and then got paralyzed and died.
ian crossland
Oh my gosh!
tim pool
And you had a guy in Leesburg, Virginia.
candace owens
I remember, I read that story, it was crazy.
tim pool
The guy, the slug?
candace owens
Yeah, it was crazy.
tim pool
There was a guy in Leesburg, Virginia who was filmed, I think it was by CNN, going out and picking cicadas off the wall and being like, I'm gonna serve this to people.
ian crossland
I always wondered how over the thousands of human years of history, how we figured out what herbs are safe to eat.
It's because people ate all the other ones!
candace owens
Yeah, that's exactly right.
Or even like, you know, the trending Kylie Jenner lip, the lip challenge.
And now TikTokers dying because it's like, it's like a little at a certain point, we just have to ask people to be a little smarter.
ian crossland
What's the Kylie Jenner?
candace owens
And we have to stop putting.
There was the lip challenge where people were literally putting their bottles and their lips in bottles and getting stuck and having to go to the emergency room.
I mean, there's like a whole crazy thing of people doing things because they find stuff on the Internet.
And at the end of all of these things, they always blame someone like Kylie Jenner, like Joe Rogan.
It's like, no, we just have to raise Smarter people.
You have to be able to discern, especially with so much information.
You obviously are not following Joe Rogan because you're like, if his name was Dr. Joe Rogan, like Dr. Joe Biden, you're a little responsible because you're pretending to be a doctor, right?
And people might take what you're saying seriously, but Joe has never pretended he was a medical doctor, and no one who is a fan of his would say he did, right?
No one who's following his stuff.
So they're trying to say he's irresponsible, but I think that's a little, and it's just not genuine to say that.
It's a little disingenuine to say that.
tim pool
We do have a problem with people just going online and then doing dumb stuff.
candace owens
Yeah, and now all of a sudden we're responsible, right?
It's like, oh my god, like, that's it.
And it's like, that's not fair to us.
That's not fair.
It's like, just be smarter.
You know, like, be smarter.
If you're looking for information, go see your doctor.
I mean, that's kind of common sense.
If you're looking for medical information, go see your doctor.
Like, I'm talking about my personal experience about Gardasil.
Like, does that mean that every single person shouldn't get Gardasil?
I don't know.
Go pursue your own information.
But don't say, well, it was irresponsible when Candace shared that story about Gardasil because she's on a doctor.
It's like, no.
Dude, like, I'm telling you what happened to me.
tim pool
You just talked about your front, your tongue, like, it's... I'm just so tired for, like, now we're all responsible for everybody else's, like... It is 100% a double standard when a celebrity can tell someone to get medicated, and then YouTube says you can't do that.
YouTube says if you recommend these things, it's against the rules, and I'm like...
But they pick and choose, right?
candace owens
Like, is it responsible when Lena Dunham posts and you know, the whole fat positive movement, which makes me sick, right?
unidentified
Right.
candace owens
And like, literally the number one killer, forget COVID-19, it's fat.
Literally the number one killer in America is heart disease led from from obesity.
Is it responsible?
Causes cancer.
Causes every bad ill, you know, really comes from being overweight.
Is it responsible when Lena Dunham decides to put a post on Instagram about how much she loves her fat?
Or they start hashtags about fat positivity and all these women talk about.
And I'm not talking about a little extra curves.
I'm talking about clinical obesity, right?
There's a literal clip.
If you go to Lena Dunham's Instagram page, you can pull it up and look at it of her writing this whole long diatribe about how happy she is to be fat and how we need to do this and we need to normalize fat.
You're literally saying for people to normalize things, that is the number one killer in America.
Do I hear her being canceled?
Do I hear her being banned?
Is she being asked to issue a statement?
Oh, but Joe Rogan, it's just foolish.
ian crossland
Yeah, if she was talking about sugar and aspartame and high fructose, there'd probably be a lot more pushback.
candace owens
But she is, right?
When you talk about clinical obesity, you have to see the picture, honestly.
I don't know if you guys, during this thing, pop up and throw things up.
You have to see what I'm talking about.
This image that she put up, It's disgusting.
It really is.
And we've gone from love yourself at any size, meaning like, yeah, I agree with that.
Like, some girls are curvy, some girls are thinner.
Like, that's cool.
But now we're talking about celebrating clinical obesity.
And those people are never held responsible.
In fact, it's the exact opposite.
They're held up as brave.
Read the articles.
Brave.
Inspiring.
So amazing.
unidentified
I love it.
tim pool
I don't think I can put up with that.
candace owens
You need to show it.
You better show it.
tim pool
What is it from?
candace owens
It's from her Instagram page and it's her saying recently, maybe like a month ago, but like I don't know that she posts too much and I saw it and I was like any person who objectively knows about health knows that this is a bad way to program people and have kids in the comments going, this is so brave.
It's so inspiring.
It's like what is it inspiring you to do when someone who obviously has clinical obesity?
This isn't like she's a couple of extra pounds.
It's clinical obesity and you're celebrating it.
Joe Rogan?
tim pool
Lena Dunham. Well, here's my point. Here's my point. I don't think Lena Dunham should be going around telling people to
be unhealthy and Like giving them advice like you should eat garbage food
and be unhealthy and not take care of yourself And I don't I don't think people should be recommending
that people go do things. It's fine to have an opinion It's fine to be like, here's what I think here's what
happened to me And he says he said in that clip Joe said, you know, if you
candace owens
ask him if you had asked me I would say no You shouldn't do it. If you're whatever age he didn't say
in a way as if he was some great authority It was very much opinion and he is an opinionator. I'm an
tim pool
opinionator. You're an opinion. All right, what I mean is When a celebrity posts a photo saying, go get the vaccine, when Fauci goes on TV and says, everybody should go do it, I'm like, no.
candace owens
That's irresponsible.
tim pool
You should go talk to a doctor.
Because we have the story from people like Crowder.
You have the story where people literally say, I went to my doctor, my doctor said no.
It's that simple.
And that might be your case.
Maybe it's rare.
candace owens
If you're pregnant, yeah, there's all sorts of different things.
And yeah, but at the end of the day, I think we have to start having people be responsible for like, you know, thinking.
ian crossland
Yeah, it kind of goes back to the master slave or leader follower conversation where like, if you want to be a teacher, you might, maybe you shouldn't be, or if you want to be the president, you're probably not cut out for the job.
If, if you're in a position of leadership, like you are, or like Tim is big time, you guys are, it's not like you want everyone to fall on every word you say, but they're going to.
candace owens
I want people to think and that's why when I'm doing like when I do podcasts, I'm encouraging like from the beginning talking about aliens.
My whole mission is to make people think critically.
Think critically about even what I'm saying, right?
So that's my goal and I think that that's the role that we play as podcasters and commentators is that we're taking the news and we're thinking critically about how we digest that news.
And I think that's kind of the role that someone like Joe Rogan serves when he's talking about all these different topics.
We're just thinking.
And we can't make thinking and saying what your opinion is a crime.
tim pool
How would you define critical thinking?
These YouTube channel, these big tech companies have zero faith in the average person.
And they think that someone's gonna watch Beavis and Butthead and then go play frog baseball, so they better tell everybody you can't do it.
If we travel down that path, And we have been.
Then eventually you just get rid of all media.
And then your movies will be like in that movie, The Invention of Language, a guy sitting in a chair in a white backroom just reading a piece of paper about history.
ian crossland
Anytime it'll be like, warning, this is a joke.
candace owens
If we're being honest though, it's not because they're afraid people are going to harm themselves.
It's because, like I said, there's profit motives.
And right now, you know, they're pretending they care about the irresponsibility of what Joe said.
But in reality, they just want people to get the vaccine.
And that's very apparent.
tim pool
They don't want to get sued.
candace owens
Well, you say that, but they don't care about that, right?
Because if somebody does get injured from the vaccine, they don't care that people told you to get it.
They care about you telling them not to get it.
So it's actually, it's not because they care about being sued or they care about people's health.
It's because their motive right now, across the board, media and big tech, is to make people get the vaccine.
It's in the DNA of their policies now.
Facebook literally has an, you cannot say anything, even if it's true, that creates vaccine hesitancy.
Right? So that's not them caring about us.
unidentified
Yeah.
candace owens
It's not like they're just like, oh, we don't want to get sued.
Because then why can't they be sued if someone does get the vaccine and gets injured?
tim pool
There's a law that was, I guess it's if you get injured, you can't sue these companies.
candace owens
Yeah. Yeah. They're removed from liabilities.
So it's not, and like I said, follow, always follow the money.
They're getting billions and billions and billions of dollars from Big Pharma.
And so, I mean, I'm, I'm very aware that we're talking about, you know, even talking about what Joe Rogan says is because he has too big of a platform for him to even introduce that perspective at all.
It steps on the toes of important and powerful people.
And in my opinion, we should always be able to think critically about everything.
tim pool
Well, let's go to Super Chats and we'll see what the audience has to say.
If you haven't already, smash the like button, subscribe.
And it's probably more important than ever that you go to TimCast.com and become a member because this whole conversation was definitely, you know, Icarus flying close to the sun.
Maybe the wax wings will melt and we will fall, but then you'll find us at TimCast.com.
Worst case scenario is if we get a strike, we get taken off the air for a week.
But it affects literally all of our YouTube channels.
ian crossland
Everyone that you are connected to.
tim pool
That I run personally with me talking on it.
I guess I could like... Yeah, that's it.
So it's like all my channels are... It's for a week.
And then we would just do the website.
So it'll be at TimCast.com.
But let's read some of these superchats.
See what we got going on.
candace owens
I hope they're being nice.
Sometimes they're mean.
ian crossland
It's a good conversation.
candace owens
Be nice to me, guys.
tim pool
Falcon Laser says, Timcast and The Daily Wire need to team up to produce a movie about UFOs.
lydia smith
Yes.
candace owens
Okay.
I'd be in.
I don't know if, like, the rest of the... I pitch them all the time on things we should do.
Like, I was like, I'm bringing the spice to Daily Wire, let me tell you.
tim pool
In the movie, you should play the president, because that way we're virtue signaling, because we have a black female president.
candace owens
Absolutely.
tim pool
And you actually fall really high on a poll about being president.
candace owens
It's amazing.
tim pool
Let's see.
What is this?
Alexander Scarpecci says OMG Candace Owens.
I love you.
What a great patriot.
I can't wait to see her as president.
candace owens
Thank you so much.
tim pool
Woot do for you says McAfee ain't dead.
He just went home.
ian crossland
I saw a message there like McAfee did not uninstall himself.
candace owens
That's really funny.
tim pool
Orion Galaxy says, Candace, you'll always be McQueen.
candace owens
Thank you so much.
tim pool
There you go.
Egg and Spoon Razor says, aliens refuse to make first contact until we agree to use their correct pronouns.
candace owens
That's all it is?
ian crossland
Can we pronounce those?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Whatever their pronouns are, Zee-zer-zem.
What if that was really like the big thing is that they're gearing up for these pronouns because the aliens have like 12 genders?
ian crossland
It's like high pitch frequency, but we don't know how to make it that noise with our bodies yet.
tim pool
Yeah.
Daniel Gao says, Candace and Tim, two of my absolutely favorite people, you both have inspired me.
I'm currently reading Anything I Can by Thomas Sowell and will be starting my own podcast on the news from a biblical perspective this fall.
Thank you for your examples.
candace owens
Yeah, that's a good Thomas Sowell, man.
You read one Thomas Sowell book, you will never come back.
tim pool
That dude is a genius.
candace owens
He's just, his book smacked me into a different reality.
Which one?
The first one I read was Race and Economics.
Economics and Race might be my favorite.
That's incredible.
It just destroys every race argument because he is like, hi America.
Let's look at these global arguments.
Let's globalize the arguments that you're having in America.
And, you know, it starts in the very beginning, like, versus, like, the whole fallacy of believing that because you're a minority, somehow you're disadvantaged.
He's like, that's been disproven all across the world at every, you know, at every facet of society, that actually minorities tend to get ahead.
And he just kind of starts there, right?
ian crossland
Oh, is it because they're more cohesive?
candace owens
Yeah, well, it's just like in every society, I mean, you'd be shocked, you know, in every empire, who was controlling the bank?
I mean, he just goes and just obliterates any of the race arguments that we're having today.
And you realize it's all built upon a house of cards.
And people just know very little about everything.
I mean, even like slavery, slavery wasn't predicated on race.
The truth is, is that black Americans, I mean, not black Americans, black Africans were brought over here.
Because we were immune to yellow fever, which the Indians, Native Americans had.
So we were just a better breed, better stock of slaves to have.
And slavery obviously was everywhere in the world.
ian crossland
Yeah, the Romans wouldn't enslave anyone.
candace owens
Yeah, of course.
Egyptians weren't slaving.
Slavery started with Muslims.
And so he just kind of just takes you all through history and you're like, wow, everything I learned in school was a lie.
tim pool
You know whose story I really, really loved was Herman Cain's.
candace owens
I loved him.
tim pool
I watched that documentary, Uncle Tom.
candace owens
Yeah, I was in it.
tim pool
Yeah, it was fantastic.
Herman Cain, man, what an amazing story.
candace owens
All of them.
Clarence Thomas, Shelby Steele, their stories, I read their books because these people that are so castigated in the media and they have lived through so much.
Condoleezza Rice, they grew up in actual segregation and they're called racists.
It's so easy to believe what I'm told.
It's also kind of easy to question everything, so there's a balance.
And Thomas obviously like grew up in your interrogation. He just wants more of it now. It's like come on man
ian crossland
It's so easy to believe what you're told what I'm told it's it's also kind of easy to question everything
So like there's a balance sometimes you just got to trust sometimes
tim pool
Vanessa Stuller says it is completely insane that Candace Owens is having a conversation with Ian regarding
Electricity and has kept him quiet for more than two minutes
I am in complete awe.
Candace, you are awesome.
ian crossland
Are you going to install the neural net after they work out the kinks?
candace owens
Yeah, 100%.
ian crossland
Nice.
Let's do it.
tim pool
I hope, I hope that the first half an hour of the show is the most confusing thing to the political journalists.
candace owens
What is happening?
tim pool
How do we smear Candace for her opinions on electricity and Thomas Edison?
candace owens
Yeah, they'll figure it out.
ian crossland
Do you meditate?
candace owens
I don't actually, but I love Bikram yoga.
ian crossland
Oh yeah.
candace owens
I guess it's kind of a moving meditation.
Yeah.
tim pool
B. Anderson says, didn't Nikola Tesla invent a way to give people free energy then get squashed by big money?
candace owens
Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of conspiracy theories out about him being killed.
And so the answer is yes.
ian crossland
He was working on sending electricity through the ground, but people were kind of afraid.
candace owens
They're like, what if it Well, they started a big, uh, you know, the propaganda, the newspapers, you know, JD Rockefeller got out and started saying a bunch of stuff about Nikola Tesla and how it was going to, if, if, if his circuit, the way that he was going to circuit, it was different.
If that got out, things would blow up, people would die.
So it was always, fear has always been used as a tactic to control the masses and into making decisions.
ian crossland
And like blackout, like Nassim Harriman is a quantum physicist of the day.
He's working on how to get energy out of the vacuum, but like, where's that in the media?
They don't want to slander the guy.
They just want you to not know who Nassim Harriman is, but look up Nassim.
He's great.
tim pool
William S. says, Ian is the Fox Mulder of our generation.
Please create the Crossland files.
I want to believe in graphene.
ian crossland
Question everything is too extreme.
Let's find a balance.
candace owens
No, it's just think, you know, it's not even like you have to question it.
But like, I just think, think, right?
Like, oh, like I said, like a thought is does Jeff Bezos really want to help me turn my lights on?
That's a thought.
unidentified
And look at the past and think, why?
ian crossland
Why was the Bible written as it was?
Let's try and figure out if that was real life and this is a book written about it, what was it really?
tim pool
So, in reference to that little green men thing with Mark Milley, Aaron Jay says, Milley is talking about hybrid warfare and little green men in the strategic way to refer to soldiers that are non-attributable to specific countries.
But little green men?
candace owens
It's a weird way to say it.
ian crossland
It's racist, isn't it?
candace owens
Yeah, why green?
tim pool
And why not just say soldiers?
ian crossland
Oh, I was thinking it was Homo florensis.
Those old hominids that got extinct.
What if they found advanced technology and went underground and now they're flying around in spaceships?
tim pool
There's a conspiracy theory that a species of dinosaur lived in caves when the meteor hit and went deep into cave systems and then evolved to become super intelligent, but they can't go to the surface because the sunlight would burn them.
So they live in giant underground cities.
And there's one underneath the Denver International Airport.
lydia smith
Of course there is, yeah.
unidentified
Talk about someone working hard to write that.
candace owens
I don't know about the dinosaur part, but let me tell you, the Denver Airport, like all the questions on Denver Airport are legitimately interesting and you should look them up.
ian crossland
What is it?
candace owens
Basically, there was just no reason to have the airport built.
They did build all this entire underground system and they just didn't use it.
I mean, just like it's incredible.
Like actually, I don't even know what the conspiracy theory is, but there's a lot of question marks about the building of the Denver Airport.
And now every time I'm there, I'm like, whoa.
lydia smith
I am from Colorado and I have heard, my understanding is that there's a heavy influence of the military.
Colorado is such a heavily military state and I'm willing to bet that it's in some way connected to Cheyenne Mountain.
I've heard that there's a direct line from DIA to Cheyenne Mountain.
candace owens
There's definitely something underneath the Denver airport.
Now, I don't know about dinosaurs that can't put their head up.
tim pool
But there's definitely like they just like built all this up and said oh never mind We can't use it and they I mean everything's running the permits build it was just weird shady I've heard like a conspiracy that it's because like the wealthiest people if they ever need to get out That's where they would go because it's kind of like in the middle of like yeah, but I don't know if any that's true But there is interesting facts about the building of a Denver Airport that are if you have just like to bend your brain a bit That's a fun one to look at super fun Well, I don't live in Florida, so I don't think I could become governor.
candace owens
But I agree with you very much that DeSantis should never run as VP.
I mean, that would be such a waste of DeSantis.
And, you know, I was saying before we went live on this that DeSantis single-handedly ended the pandemic totalitarianism by keeping Florida a free state.
And the measures that he took made it impossible for other states to keep, you know, pursuing their lockdowns because he proved that the lockdowns weren't necessarily helping in terms of spreading.
I mean, in terms of stopping the spread of the virus.
So there were so many things that he did.
He has been a phenomenal, phenomenal governor.
And I know I can't sing his praise enough.
And I totally agree that people that are asking for him to run with Trump, I'm just like, you are missing the forest for the trees on that one.
tim pool
What if he runs as president?
candace owens
If he ran as president, I mean, he would.
I personally think that Trump's going to run again in 2024.
But if he ran as president, I would very much support Governor DeSantis.
tim pool
He's been great president.
unidentified
Oh, yes.
candace owens
Just Rhonda Santas in that point.
ian crossland
I kept thinking it was Rhonda.
I was like, who's this Rhonda guy?
lydia smith
Rhonda Santas.
He's been amazing.
candace owens
He's been amazing.
tim pool
JB says, how typical.
A talk-for-money grifter helping another talk-for-money grifter stay relevant.
unidentified
Thank you.
candace owens
It took like three years for me to finally figure out what grifter meant.
Me and my husband just thought it was so funny.
We're like, what's grifting?
What's a grifter?
ian crossland
What is it exactly?
candace owens
And then so now me and my husband always say to each other, like for anything, we're like, Griffa's got a grift!
Griffa's got a grift!
unidentified
Griffa.
candace owens
I guess it's like they're saying you're inauthentic and you're just saying things for money.
unidentified
Yeah.
candace owens
The money would really be there.
If I wanted to make money, being a black liberal is the way to go.
Just so we're clear.
Right, just so we're very clear, the idea that somehow it's easier to make money as a black conservative than as a black liberal, they would be handing me accolades.
Could you imagine me as THE black liberal?
I would be like, they would have me giving Oscar speeches.
Huge MSNBC TV show.
tim pool
Imagine if Kanye came out with a big message about supporting Hillary Clinton.
What would they have said about it?
candace owens
He's the smartest, most brilliant.
It's such a joke, the concept that to make the money, the quick buck, you go and become a black conservative.
Okay, cool.
All the media's against you.
That's the easiest route to go.
tim pool
funniest thing that like it's grifting.
It's that yeah like why would you want to go against the machine.
candace owens
Yeah the machine will put you up it's the machine like so it's
just again people don't like to think so.
tim pool
Let me let me risk my livelihood and.
candace owens
And everything I mean like home.
Yeah.
Your everything is risk when you come out and you speak out as a
black conservative.
tim pool
What what's being risked by these socialist YouTubers who are like
I agree with Amazon dot com and My opinions are not controversial in any way.
I'm like, you risk nothing.
And they get propped up by YouTube.
candace owens
Algorithms put them at the top.
Every time you search them, it's like, follow this celebrity who's saying every single thing that we agree with.
tim pool
Exactly.
They can come out and they can give medical advice and it's fine.
candace owens
Yeah, no question.
I love that Dr. Bill Gates has given so much advice on what we should do.
tim pool
I love the meme where it was like Joe Rogan and Bill Gates both gave medical advice and Bill Gates was propped up and championed by the media and Joe Rogan was like insulted and they criticized him.
unidentified
Right.
candace owens
Here's my opinion.
My opinion is we shouldn't listen to either of their opinions.
We should listen to them because we're like, OK, I want to follow this guy.
I want to follow this guy.
But they are equally as legitimate.
So it's like I didn't spaz out and say like, OK, Bill Gates should not be allowed to even give his opinion.
So why are people spazzing out if Joe Rogan gives his opinion?
ian crossland
It's an interesting ability to be able to listen to somebody but not let it rewrite your brain.
candace owens
Right.
That's a talent.
That's my talent.
I listen to people and it doesn't rewrite my brain.
That is my superpower.
I always thought I wanted to be Mystique, but... What's Mystique's superpower?
I hate when people say this!
Not a single person at the Daily Wire knew who Mystique was.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
Like I never even heard of her.
candace owens
I hate to say this.
I shouldn't be giving out Daily Wire dirty secrets, but like not a single one.
Not Andrew Clavin.
Not Michael Knowles.
Not Ben Shapiro.
Nobody knew who Mystique was.
And it hurt my heart because I'm such a big X-Men fan.
unidentified
Yeah.
candace owens
Like I'm an X-Men dweeb.
And I was like, but not not Jennifer Lawrence.
She ruined Mystique.
tim pool
You know what I wonder?
candace owens
Rebecca remained Stamos as Mystique.
Wow.
tim pool
That's such an interesting question.
No, I think the second you cut it, then she turns back into the lizard.
and then she's in clothes.
Is that clothes like her skin?
You know what I mean?
Like if you were to cut the clothing, would the clothing bleed?
candace owens
That's such an interesting question.
No, I think the second you cut it, then she turns back into the lizard.
tim pool
The lizard?
candace owens
No, she's kind of a lizard.
unidentified
Blue skin.
candace owens
She's scaly.
Scale.
tim pool
Yeah.
All right, Marty Toro Jr. says, "'Tim, if you fire subsonic rounds
"'through a sound suppressor, it is as quiet as a sneeze.
"'I am active duty military, and I have footage of this.'"
I've seen footage of like super quiet suppressed rounds, like subsonic, but it's not like pew, pew, pew.
I've not seen that.
Maybe I'm wrong.
candace owens
Have you not seen a James Bond film?
I just can't understand you keep saying that.
unidentified
I have.
tim pool
It's just not real life.
candace owens
What do you mean it's not real life?
Wait, is this not real life?
James Bond is not real life.
Are you saying Mystique doesn't exist?
unidentified
Are you not real?
candace owens
You really are a conspiracy theorist.
tim pool
There's no Mystique.
There's no Magneto.
candace owens
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, Elizabeth Carmella comedians as dude my psychic is on point I was just thinking earlier today when Candace Owens was gonna make her way to Tim cast and boom here she is Can she tell us more psychic stuff?
Yeah, give me the lottery.
candace owens
Yeah.
unidentified
Come on.
candace owens
Yeah something I want to win half a billion dollars and they retire exactly All I get all I get from your psychic abilities is I'm on Tim cast.
unidentified
I want to be a billionaire Psychic premonitions No, I don't have psychic premonitions.
candace owens
I have good instincts.
ian crossland
Like communicate with people with your thoughts?
candace owens
I wish I could.
But no, I don't have any powers.
ian crossland
You can.
candace owens
Yeah.
tim pool
Kev says, Ian, this is for you because you rock.
Please show Mr. Poole the videos, he'll be surprised.
I've been heavy into pew-pews for 35 years and even I'm learning something new every week.
P.S.
Original Voltron was 15 vehicles that made one mech.
unidentified
What?
ian crossland
I thought it was five.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
Is he talking about the suppressor videos?
tim pool
Yeah, I guess.
ian crossland
I've never seen that.
tim pool
Mike West says, well, I can't read that YouTube will ban me.
Sorry, dude.
Eric A. says, Tim, I'm surprised you missed this story.
Amazon donated hundreds of copies of Ibram X. Kendi's book to Virginia Public School.
Turns out they are teaching critical race theory.
And then they go, Ibram X. Kendi's not a critical race theorist.
He's just a guy who writes ideology that was inspired by critical race theory and is adopting And now go ask any of those children who Plato was, who Aristotle was, who Socrates was.
candace owens
They have no idea.
It's all about creating the modern far-left person that just listens to the government, who sees the problems everywhere except for where it is, which is the fact that, you know, government is growing itself exponentially.
And they're just creating people that will plug themselves into government.
And, you know, to get a little deeper on that, the entire concept of why they're making kids stupid, right?
And so imagine being a kid, you go through the school system,
you then go and you get your bachelor's degree, then you go get your master's degree
and you get your master's degree in something that's literally stupid.
Like you can get a master's degree in gender studies, which is just like, that's really stupid.
It's a lot of money to spend on such stupidity.
tim pool
And then demand the government pay it back.
candace owens
And then you cut out of school, you've got all of these student loans
and you realize you can't get a job because it turns out that nobody needs
the person to tell them 27,000 genders, but the kid that you went to high school with
that didn't go to college and can fix an AC is making a ton of money.
Well, that instantly creates a very.
Angry angry citizen and they're mad at the system They're mad at something and they have to channel that anger or somewhere because they either can become a professor or they become failures And if you want to know why so many of these antifa types who are blowing up, you know police vehicles Are college-educated it's because they're angry They're angry because they they're convinced of their own intelligence, right because I've got those many degrees I've got a degree in this good degree in that they're passionately stupid midwits.
ian crossland
Yeah, and I like that.
tim pool
Ralph Nesbitt says, Ian, it was Battle of the Planets, the 70s Power Rangers.
ian crossland
Nice!
tim pool
That was the first one?
ian crossland
I guess so, yeah.
tim pool
TheRaptorsTown says, I had a Samsung Galaxy S8 for years and was forced to upgrade after T-Mobile bought out Sprint.
The official reason was because it was outdated.
Coincidence?
I think not.
candace owens
No.
tim pool
Planned obsolescence.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's concerning.
tim pool
Yeah, that's corruption in capitalism.
Capitalism is supposed to be you invent a lightbulb that lasts forever, and you become rich, and everyone celebrates the new innovation.
Instead, we get failing lightbulbs, and then everyone's got to buy a new one every week.
ian crossland
I heard there's a move to make right-of-repair legal.
Have you guys heard about this?
tim pool
Right-to-repair.
ian crossland
Right-to-repair, which means that, like, you have the right to get all the parts for this, whereas before, it's the proprietary.
You have to send it back to the company, and they'll fix it for you and send it back to you.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
candace owens
Interesting.
ian crossland
So it's kind of decentralizing repair.
candace owens
It's actually interesting.
tim pool
Charlie Alpha says, retired military pilot and the scariest thing I ever did.
Start a trucking company between jobs.
Independence is scary, but so rewarding.
We must have courage as evil triumphs if good men do nothing.
candace owens
That's exactly right.
And so true.
It's scary.
Take risks, but big risks equal big rewards.
And by the way, you're allowed to fail.
People are very scared to fail.
I failed so much in my life.
And what happens when you fail and you get back on, you know, the, uh, the figurative horse, the figurative bike is that then you're, you develop more of immunity of like, Oh, cause sometimes you try things and they don't work out.
And now society is built around people being too afraid to fail.
And like failure is good.
That's how you learn.
I mean, virtually every person that really made it in life failed at some point before.
And, but now they don't want, they don't want kids thinking like, go to college, get a degree or else you're going to be a failure.
And actually no, you're going to be a failure if you don't try to do things outside of the box, establishment box.
ian crossland
A non-failure isn't a success, necessarily.
You can be a non-failure and still not succeed.
A D-minus isn't going to make you a success.
tim pool
You likely will not succeed unless you've had failures.
Unless you're the rare lucky person who bought a lottery ticket.
candace owens
Right.
Right.
It's so true.
So true.
tim pool
Robert Adams says this is the problem in living in a world with too many lawyers, making us believe opinions should be sued.
No personal responsibility.
Yeah, that is.
I agree with that.
unidentified
Yeah.
Culture.
tim pool
Everybody's going to sue everybody.
candace owens
Just tried to sue me over an opinion.
tim pool
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
candace owens
Yeah, well it was the whole Kimberly Klesik thing that happened.
Me and her got into a whole tiff online and I started looking into her FEC file.
It's like the new scam right now.
Probably just so not aware of it.
There's a bunch of people that are pretending to run for office in dishes that they know they can't win and they just raise a ton of money and keep running and running and running.
And I just sort of looked into this and looked at her FEC filings and all of this money was going off to defunct businesses.
I just exposed it all and exposed the fact that she used to be a stripper, which nobody knew, who popped up.
And I was just like, in my opinion, when I think of a strip club, I think of money laundering.
And that's what made me go check her FEC filings.
And I exposed it all.
And then she had her lawyer try to get me to take down the video by being like, For better or for worse, a lot of these opinion things just never make it past motion to dismiss.
You're just in there like the madame at the strip club and I'm like they were trying to make it seem like I met like
a human trafficker madame and I didn't mean I met like her husband was the manager of the strip club and like she
Got people to strip there and they like did this whole thing and I was like, no
Sorry, if you're gonna sue me go for it, like people have right to tell the truth
You don't even care about this one sentence You're just trying to get the whole FEC filing scene taken
tim pool
down But better for worse a lot of these opinion things just
never make it past motion is like the motion to dismiss it just they're gone
candace owens
Yeah, no, it's but it's like the new thing It's like people, yeah, it's the same people that say they believe in free speech that will try to shut it down, you know, to protect themselves and their grift, as I learned, learned this new word, this new word too.
I mean, the same stuff with the Nicole Arbor stuff.
She was trying to like, oh, have a lawyer sent it.
I was like, send it.
Like, you know, somebody talking about what you're doing and now it's the way they protect themselves is everyone thinks you're free when you send a legal letter.
And it's like, the truth is the truth.
That is, that is.
tim pool
You are, you are fighting with Nicole Arbor as well?
candace owens
Yeah, I got into a whole big thing with her.
She's, I mean, talk about the ultimate, like, grifter.
Like, I mean, like, just pretending to be conservative once liberals had her, you know, figured out.
And I, you know, and so she kind of rebranded as a Trump supporter and nobody really looked into her and there was a whole history of YouTubers.
Like, I don't follow, like I was saying to you, like, too much on YouTube, but I then did follow that.
There was a lot of men speaking up and saying, like, these crazy things happened with her, but then she sent a legal letter to get them to take the videos down and, like, crazy stuff, and I was just like, nothing I hate more, let me tell you, talk about things I'm passionate against, than the Me Too type women, who like, every time a man says anything, then they do like, they're like, I was scared for my life, and like, like that turned me into a dragon, because men are not able to defend themselves right now, and women know that, and she did the dirtiest thing ever to Ryan Upchurch, who's like a country rap star,
Like literally he had to hand in his guns like because she wanted a video taken down
unidentified
Wow.
candace owens
She wanted to be taking down So the way that she thought to do it was to file an
emergency injunction injunction to get him to take down the video and so for
those who don't know an emergency injunction like I saw the video that
He did and it was shocking because it proved like how much of a liar she was right?
So this video goes up, he like, you know, it's like, boys, girls, tiff, whatever, he's showing the tech, she's showing that, like, everything she said was a lie.
And so it was so damaging to her career that she wanted to be able to turn down.
She went to a domestic violence clinic.
He never hit her, nothing, and said, like, what do I do?
And they said, you can file an emergency injunction, and then he'll, until the judge can look at the case, he'll have to take down the video, they'll take his guns, like, all of this stuff.
She did this, right?
And, like, so he had to take down the video, they took his guns, all of this stuff.
Now, it's been resolved, and the judge wrote back a thing being like, she has a credibility issue, and he looked into it, but she still got what she wanted.
The video was taken down, and he got his guns back, and all that stuff, and like, so I used my platform to defend him.
Like, I didn't know him, but I just hate seeing men being pigeonholed You know, it's just like, it's what's going on with men right now.
It's just women are like really just taking advantage of being crazy.
And you know who it hurts when you do stuff like that?
Real domestic violence.
It hurts everybody.
tim pool
It's the country.
candace owens
It hurts the country, but it really, especially women that have legitimate domestic violence claims.
Like when you start using this as a way to, I hate this guy, so I'm going to say, oh, you know, it was abusive.
Like what, you know, Tim did to me.
Like, you know, he offered me a slushie.
He's got a slushie machine downstairs.
Sidekick says, I think aliens won't deal with us until there's a unified world.
One language, one currency, one leader, etc.
new culture of that too and me too and I talk a lot about toxic feminism and
that's my second book is on that and there's a lot of that now going around.
tim pool
Yeah. Alright Sidekick says, I think aliens won't deal with us until there's
a unified world. One language, one currency, one leader, etc. could explain
the power struggles these days. I said that the last time I was on the Joe
I was like, we're never going to meet the aliens because the Galactic Federation doesn't want to deal with a bunch of different countries.
We need one unified planet to join the Federation.
And Joe said, I don't think there's a Galactic Federation.
unidentified
I was like, I know, I was kidding.
ian crossland
I think that we could be unified with a lot of leaders and a lot of currencies, like a decentralized union.
unidentified
All right, let's see what we got.
tim pool
Bassassin says, Candace is an honest soul.
candace owens
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
I try to be, um, I think a lot of times my honesty gets me in trouble, but it's, it's the only thing I know.
And I always say there's a Kanye line speaks to my soul.
He says in one of his songs, I suffer from realness and I feel that line.
I suffer from it.
I'm like, I gotta say I gotta say it so nobody's saying it so I have to say I'm just I'm naturally a fighter and I just I hate dishonesty and I just see it everywhere and it's like, you know, I'm fighting Facebook fact-checkers I'm obviously in lawsuit with them like taking you know, these women that do the false accusing women like it but it all matters to me because it's just like I just want the society better for my son to grow up in and
and all of this is a threat to my son like you know like the society that we we got to have childhoods and
Make mistakes even like the cancel culture of like he tweeted this when he was 13 years old like I speak out
against everything Because I just want the world to be better. Were you like
ian crossland
that when you were little or yeah Did you get pushed around when you were a kid like no lead
candace owens
and stuff? No, I was I was like No, I was the no-nonsense toddler telling adults what was up.
Like, you are trying to manipulate me.
I was like, no.
My dad and mom used to have to close the door and laugh because I would demand a further conversation.
I hated manipulation.
So they'd be like, don't do this.
Santa's not going to come.
And I'd be like, well, then you tell Santa I said not to come.
Wow.
tim pool
Then I don't want his presence!
candace owens
I want an explanation for why I have to do this.
I love it.
tim pool
All right.
D'lon Smythe says, YouTube, quote, when you send a message here, people will be able to
see that you subscribe.
That's a mafia level threat.
Actually, it's this really cool thing.
Apparently, you can make it so that if you want to chat, you got to be a subscriber.
You just gotta click a little button.
That works.
Because there's a lot of spam bots that come in.
They don't subscribe, they just post stupid things about getting rich quick or whatever.
ian crossland
Oh, I thought it was a member.
Just a subscriber.
candace owens
Oh yeah, that's smart.
That's a great way to get the trolls out.
That's really smart.
tim pool
Super simple.
A regular person can just click the button and you should subscribe and like this video.
All right.
J.K.
Nguyen says, have any of you heard about energy companies in Texas changing people's thermostats in their homes?
Tech automation is like security.
Higher security, less convenient.
Higher convenience, less secure.
This I understand to be a true story, but it's something they signed up for.
So you can sign up to get a discount and they have smart thermostats.
So the company can set your thermostat for you and then you save money.
It's like a cheaper bill or something.
candace owens
Oh, I haven't heard of that.
Well, fun fact, speaking about the green lobby, all these people that are like, climate change, blah, blah, blah.
Do you know?
I know a bunch of people that work in the industry.
Conservatives are actually the people that use the most clean energy.
tim pool
Oh, really?
candace owens
So they talk about it, but they don't commit to it.
So they're not the ones that are driving around the Teslas.
And so I thought it was very interesting when they told me that they said, yeah, if they're in sales and obviously, so they have like all the data and they are much more likely going to Republican and selling it.
Like my husband and I are going to do like a kind of a half Think about this.
Big cities.
Tons of pollution.
Big cities.
Police problems.
It's all the Democrat people who live there who complain about this.
Where do conservatives live?
They live in rural areas.
when he said, Nope, anybody on the industry knows that the left is the app about it and
the conservatives commit to it.
tim pool
Think about this. Big cities, tons of pollution. Big cities, police problems. It's all the
Democrat people who live there who complain about this.
Where do conservatives live? They live in rural areas, they tend to. Conservative, so people
in rural areas tend to have their own gardens, their own food, have chickens, tend to chop
their own wood, tend to, I should say. So you're more likely going to find environmentally
conscious conservatives than liberals. But But I will say, perhaps you will find most liberals
claiming to be environmentally conscious.
candace owens
They yap it, but they don't actually walk the walk.
They talk the talk, they don't walk the walk.
Conservatives walk the walk and don't talk the talk.
And I was just like, what?
And he's like, I can send you tons of data on it.
It's like one of the big media propaganda efforts to make you think that because they talk about it, they're living their life like that and they just don't.
ian crossland
Yeah, when there's a problem, people will be like, that's a problem!
But when everything's working properly, you don't point it out necessarily.
tim pool
Daniel Bundrick says, if Ian's beauty filter video mentioned yesterday gets more views than CNN's primetime viewership, I'll double this super chat.
It's really, really funny.
The primetime viewership in the key demo for CNN MSNBC on weekends is like 50 to 60k.
candace owens
Yeah, I know.
It's like very easy.
That's not a hard feat.
I mean like Brian Stelter, Jake Tapper.
I could do one Instagram video right now and I'd get more views.
Which should really tell you where the society is at.
They know it's propaganda.
They're not interested anymore, you know?
tim pool
You know, they sacrificed... I used to have CNN running.
I'd be working and I'd have CNN in the background because it'd be like, you know, a storm would hit and they'd be like, there's a storm in Atlanta.
And then one day I realized they were just talking about Trump nonstop.
candace owens
Nonstop.
tim pool
It was like they eventually stopped doing any real reporting.
Veritas exposed this when they had a technical director of some sort.
Somebody said, we used to go on the ground and do reporting.
Now we just do panels about Trump.
So I turned it off.
So I was never a big fan of CNN, but I would leave it on because at least I talk about news.
You start talking about Trump 24-7.
I turned it off.
I've never looked back.
They decided to chase the anti-Trump audience, and now that Trump is gone, they have no audience left.
candace owens
Right.
tim pool
That's exactly right.
It's crazy that we can make a video where it's like Ian talking about space chimps or something, and it'll beat CNN primetime viewership.
The real news.
ian crossland
I'm looking forward to space chimps, man.
The prick says YouTube won't let me comment in comment section says it's because I subbed to this channel while watching a video made for kids.
that the Russians fired off into space. Didn't make it.
Didn't survive it.
tim pool
Alright, we'll do a couple more.
The Prick says, YouTube won't let me comment in comment section.
Says it's because I subbed to this channel while watching a video made for kids.
What? That's weird.
Weird. Weird.
All right, Turk Longwell says, damn, is Candice standing up for everything and everyone, not the best thing ever?
Holy shoot.
Candice is amazing.
Please keep it up, Candice.
Thank you.
candace owens
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
tim pool
Right on.
Well, absolutely.
Thanks for hanging out.
It's been a blast.
We're going to have a bonus segment up at TimCast.com.
So make sure you like this video, subscribe to this channel, go to TimCast.com, become a member.
And that's where we're going to say, all we're going to do is we're going to press record and then say just a stream of things YouTube bans you for.
That's the point of the website.
You can follow the show on Facebook and Instagram at TimCastIRL.
You can follow me personally at TimCast.
Did you want to shout anything out?
I think everybody knows who you are.
candace owens
Yeah, join Parler.
My husband's a CEO.
I do have a Twitter, unbeknownst to Ian.
You can follow me there.
tim pool
I found out.
candace owens
He found out and we're very proud of him.
We made a long two hours for him to find that out.
And yeah, buy my book, Blackout, because I'm so close to passing half a million copies.
unidentified
Wow!
candace owens
Yeah, so I need to sell 20,000 more copies to pass half a million copies, and I want to celebrate half a million copies.
So for that reason.
It's also a really good book, and I actually wrote it.
I didn't use a ghostwriter, which nobody does in politics.
It's actually written by me, read by me.
So buy it just so I can get this little accolade in my head.
They don't send me anything, but it just means something to me.
ian crossland
Where's the best place people can get Blackout?
candace owens
I hate to say Amazon, but Simon and Schuster.com and you can get it from Amazon.
You can get it anywhere.
Target is where people are picking them up like hotcakes and playing the blackout game, which is where you find my book and you black out somebody else like Chrissy Teigen.
See, I'm fighting every war.
Yeah.
ian crossland
I just wish we'd talk more about lasers and psychedelics and monsters from space or something.
But maybe we'll get into that later.
Make a movie about it.
I'm Ian Crossland.
Thank you for coming.
And you can find me at iancrossland.net and at iancrossland on all social media.
I love you.
lydia smith
I am so glad we were able to have this genre-busting conversation with the Spice Queen of the Daily Wire.
This has been a ton of fun, and I'm really looking forward to our bonus segment.
You guys need to sign up for the site for sure.
And you guys are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter at Sour Patch Lids as I'm attempting to outstrip Sour Patch Kids in followers.
tim pool
We will see you all over at TimCast.com.
Thanks for hanging out.
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