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June 28, 2021 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Biden DEFENDS Olympic Athlete Who Protested US Anthem w/Adrianne Curry
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tim pool
you controversy has been erupting over the past couple of
months pertaining to the We had this alternate for the Olympic BMX park, I think it is, saying that their intention was to get on the podium to burn the American flag, and then that got everybody... I think mostly everybody who listens to Fox News riled up because most of the left-leaning outlets didn't really talk about it.
And now we have the story that's actually picking up steam and has become pretty viral of this woman who won third place in the hammer throw protesting the national anthem.
Now, that's still... I find it interesting that we have the culture war getting to the point where people are torn between whether to be proud of themselves, the Olympics, and happy that America has chosen them, and protesting it to virtue signal.
Well, of course, Joe Biden's gonna come out and say, hey, come on, man, you know, it's a right to protest, and... Oh, come on, dude, it's the Olympics.
You're going to stand up.
You're going to be like, you know, we're here for America.
And I get it.
Protests has happened in the Olympics, but I think the culture war is getting to that point where a lot of people actually want to be proud of themselves, but they're torn between the virtue signal or otherwise.
So we're going to talk about that.
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And we are being joined today by our number one fan and number one troll of our chat, Adrienne Curry.
adrianne curry
I'm not a troll anymore.
I will no longer be trolling.
tim pool
Now you're on the show!
adrianne curry
Yeah!
tim pool
No, you're actually like a big Hollywood star.
adrianne curry
I just deadpooled it.
I broke down the wall so now I can't troll.
ian crossland
I still haven't seen that movie.
Is it good?
unidentified
It's great.
adrianne curry
It's fantastic and I thought he would do a horrible job and I was very wrong.
tim pool
Yeah, I was enthusiastic.
But do you want to actually just briefly introduce yourself?
adrianne curry
I am a reality TV original.
I've been retired since 2015.
I am now just an Avon lady, but the reason I like to blame the narcissism in the world on me and Kelly Clarkson, because we won Top Model and American Idol in the same year.
And thus began the slow decline of society.
lydia smith
It's all your fault!
tim pool
Thanks for being here.
adrianne curry
You're welcome.
ian crossland
It was right around when we, the Iraq war began.
That was really a powerful year.
adrianne curry
Everyone's a model on Instagram now and we're still at war in the Middle East.
tim pool
That's a lot to blame her for.
unidentified
Yeah.
I voted for like an idiot.
ian crossland
Did anyone not?
adrianne curry
Yeah.
tim pool
A lot of people walked right into it.
ian crossland
Hey, thanks guys.
I'm Ian Cross on Adrian.
I'm glad you're here.
I've been following your work for eight months or so.
adrianne curry
I'm sorry.
ian crossland
I'm invigorated.
lydia smith
I'm sorry.
I'm delighted to have Adrienne here because our birthdays are very close together and she's the same height as I am and we have the same shoe size.
I freaking love it.
I'm a huge fan now.
We're big chicks.
We got big feet!
Yeah!
Good stuff.
Right, I'm gonna throw it back to Tim.
He's done by this.
tim pool
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ian crossland
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for production so we can do a lot more.
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And this is all the dirty secrets and stuff that we're not allowed to talk about on YouTube, so you're going to want to stick around for this.
But for now, we're going to be talking about the important news of the day.
We got this, we got this really interesting story.
It's, this one strikes me as an odd story.
All right, so here's this, here it is from Daily Mail.
Biden quote, respects Olympic hammer thrower Gwen Berry's right to turn back on flag and believes being patriotic means to recognize when U.S.
hasn't lived up to its highest ideal.
This is the big story right now.
She won third place, which means she's secured a spot on the Olympic team going to Tokyo.
But when they played the national anthem, the two other women who got first and second place turn and put their hands on their hearts.
And she turns and makes this angry look, and then says, stop playing with me.
Then says, I was being set up.
They did it on purpose.
They were going to play it before, but they knew they got me.
And it's like, It's America, like, we live in America, you know?
You're going to the Olympics to support the country.
Turning away from your own anthem or being mad that the anthem's being played to me is, like, kind of weird.
But here's the core of what I want to get into in terms of this discussion.
The culture war has got to the point where I kind of feel like this lady and her mom and her family were probably crying with joy that she's in the Olympics, she won, she did it.
But when they play the National Anthem, she's being torn, right?
If she stands there and puts her hands on her heart, her hand on her heart for the National Anthem, how many of these Black Lives Matter activists leftists are going to be like, why would you do that?
Why would you support the oppression?
And so I wonder if her attitude was kind of like, what do I do?
adrianne curry
maybe it's like the movie cuties like the family was so proud of their children for doing this movie and everyone else is like what but they're just gonna stand by it anyway because that's their girl you know so maybe it's just that kind of like tribalism like You're familiar.
You're just gonna stand up for these people, even though, I mean, the fact that our president, like, ugh, please help me.
Help.
Can I go back to Montana now?
lydia smith
No, you got this.
adrianne curry
Why would he be okay with this?
Why would any president be like, yes, hate our country, it's great and patriotic.
tim pool
There have been people who did like the, you know, the Power Fists, the Black Power Fists or AKA Red Salute in the past.
So I recognize protests at the Olympics.
They ban it.
adrianne curry
Well, was that, like, going, like, to the flag?
unidentified
No.
adrianne curry
That was not pooping on the flag.
That was like, oh, I'm going to do a protest, but not blatantly be like, I hate this country that I represent.
And I lost very badly.
tim pool
But let's differentiate between doing cuties and making the Olympics.
Those little girls and cuties were being abused.
adrianne curry
No, no, no, no.
I think doing what she did to the flag was abuse.
So the Olympics is awesome.
Like these people are great.
I think she was just so mad that she didn't win that the only way to take the moment from the winner was to make it all about herself.
I thought it was incredibly narcissistic.
tim pool
Yeah.
Because the person who's in first place now, no one even knows her name.
adrianne curry
Nobody knows and nobody cares.
It's like going to a wedding and making it all about you and stealing the bride's thunder.
tim pool
How much you want to bet she gets to deal with Nike and they do something, stand up, even if everyone says you're wrong or something?
unidentified
Help us oppress more people with being at a depression.
ian crossland
Colin Kaepernick, subpar athlete.
Well, not subpar, obviously.
She's greater.
tim pool
No, you said it right!
She's par, she's par.
She's third place.
ian crossland
She's a par athlete.
adrianne curry
What if she actually focused on being a better athlete instead of hating her country and activism?
Maybe she would have been first.
ian crossland
I never got the not-burning-destroying-the-flag thing.
I was always like, yeah, destroy the flag, cool, whatever.
I'm not into iconic...
Iconoclast?
Iconoclast?
I'm not into, like, idol worship.
Like, worshiping icons.
So, I don't know why people care.
It's a piece of cloth.
Like, maybe 200 years ago, when you needed it to say, this is my army, there was a purpose for it.
unidentified
But nowadays, it seems like... See, that's where I go full-blown Republican.
adrianne curry
Where I'm like, why don't you go burn the Hollywood sign?
Because that has hurt so many people.
But America has, like, given us so much great stuff.
Like, why?
tim pool
Why would you?
I think I figured it out, actually, because I was thinking about this story, and I remember this thing that Penn and Teller did, where they burned the American flag as a magic trick.
They don't really burn it, but they, like, wrote the Constitution, and then he puts the flag in it, and then a flame comes out, and the flag's gone.
And Penn says—he's a very libertarian guy—burning the flag is the ultimate symbol of the freedom that it represents.
So I've always been a fan of that idea, so long as it's your flag and you're safe, I don't care.
But I think I figured it out.
I'm like, why does this one upset me?
Like, why should I complain about a lady who's expressing the freedom of America by protesting?
And it's simple.
Like, sure, when I'm at home and I'm fighting with my parents, I can say really nasty things about my siblings.
It doesn't leave the house.
But we express that internally and we go outside, someone says nasty things about my family, I'll be like, don't you talk about my family that way.
adrianne curry
Yeah, she's representing our country.
tim pool
Us.
adrianne curry
And she's like, you all suck!
And I'm like, you suck, you lost!
tim pool
Technically, she she lost.
I guess you could say technically.
adrianne curry
No, not this participation trophy.
Nobody is happy with their silver and bronze.
Nobody's happy.
No, I used to run track and cross country.
I was never happy.
Oh, here's your third place.
I was like, are you happy when you like rank bad when you're playing World of Warcraft or you didn't get a good armor drop?
tim pool
No!
adrianne curry
Like, you're not proud of it.
tim pool
Remember Mikayla Maroney?
She got silver and she does the face.
lydia smith
Loved her face.
tim pool
And it became a meme because it was like... Because it's truth!
adrianne curry
She did well, but she didn't get what she wanted.
ian crossland
One value to this.
So this is a person who finished third place and they burned a flag?
Is that right?
tim pool
No, no, no.
They played the national anthem and then when the first and second place lady turned to the flag and put their hands on their heart, she turns to the camera and she like makes a frumpy look, like angry.
ian crossland
What it might do that's good is show other citizens from around the world and totalitarian regimes that they can also talk crap against their government and kind of seed the flames of democratic rebellion.
adrianne curry
No, they're going to use it as propaganda of why we suck and why the CCP is so great.
That's true.
lydia smith
That's what they do.
adrianne curry
You know why?
Because their athletes wouldn't do that because they'd ship them off to a camp.
tim pool
I mean, it is cool that we can protest in this country, but this is like... What are you protesting at the Olympics?
Right.
You have chosen to be in the upper echelon of athletes of the world.
By choice, you went here and did this.
You knew you were going to be wearing the American flag, and they would play the anthem when you walk out.
That's why I think it's not real.
I think she's... Imagine it this way.
You want to be a famous and rich athlete.
You gotta get the endorsement.
That's where it's all at.
adrianne curry
It's press.
None of it's real.
None of what anyone does for attention in front of cameras is real.
It's all a lie.
They only want clicks and likes.
tim pool
And because she stuck it to the cons, how many leftist liberal types are going like, woo, yeah, you tell them!
adrianne curry
Give her money!
tim pool
Yep.
She'll get, you know, Dan Crenshaw said that she should be kicked off the team or whatever.
I'm sure she'd love it.
Look at Colin Kaepernick.
He's making more money having left the NFL than he was, at least that's my understanding.
Like, he got this big Nike deal, his face on billboards.
adrianne curry
He is so oppressed, you know, I pray for him every night because what a rough life.
ian crossland
Yeah, he's had it hard.
tim pool
I can't imagine, you know, because, you know, he just has to wake up and then he takes a couple hundred dollar bills and wipes his tears away.
adrianne curry
He wraps himself in slave-made garments from little children being whipped and not paid and then he cries about how hard his life is.
tim pool
That's what I always loved about the activism.
It's like they use all of this technology, all of the raw materials from slave labor around the world, mostly in China and other, you know, Southeast Asian countries.
And like they're wearing clothes from Bangladesh and stuff.
And they're like, I'm so oppressed.
lydia smith
Well, hasn't Nike literally said Nike is a company of China, for China?
Yes!
adrianne curry
Well, then go to China, baby!
lydia smith
Your market here is dead.
ian crossland
Nike means victory, I think, in ancient Greek or something.
lydia smith
Does it?
adrianne curry
Yeah.
I thought it meant pain and suffering.
lydia smith
I mean, yeah, pretty much.
ian crossland
I can see the value of winning and then wrapping yourself in the American flag and being like, look, this country gave me the opportunity to become as great as I am.
adrianne curry
People would complain about that, too, because you're not supposed to wrap yourself in the flag.
I've done it.
And all my conservative buddies went mad.
And I said, old Glory never had a better time than when she was wrapped around me.
lydia smith
That's fair.
ian crossland
So giving like worship to the flag, showing the flag, like holding it in reverence.
But then I can also see the value of like lighting it on fire and being like, look, we're Americans.
We're allowed to do this.
adrianne curry
Look how great the world can be.
Do that at home.
But when you're representing your country, it's like your family.
You don't fight in front of other people.
You don't go to church and sit there and brawl with each other in the pews.
tim pool
No, I view it like You know, maybe somebody said, hey, would you be interested in having a good-faith debate to discuss our differences?
And then the other person says, absolutely, just let me know when, and then offers up the date, and then privately says, I was never actually going to debate you, I have no respect for this, and then publicly uses it to drum up drama and just make money and grift off it.
Or, like, if you ask someone to do a good-faith debate, and they agreed to, and then at the last minute subbed in this other grifter guy, Anyway, I'm half kidding.
I'm half kidding.
But my point is, it is kind of like that.
It's like, we said to this person...
Hey, we invite you to, you know, wear our flag and represent us.
And then she, like, gets up there and just... You know, she wasn't at the Olympics.
This is the Olympic trials.
And just is basically like... Like, I never actually cared about you.
I never wanted to represent you.
She said, the anthem has never represented me, so why would I want to represent it?
It's like, then what are you here for?
We asked you to represent us.
Go home.
Like, no beef.
No beef.
I'm not saying you're really great at your sport.
I'm really impressed.
It's fantastic.
But if you don't want to be here, would you mind leaving so someone who does can be?
ian crossland
I guess...
Since it is like the Olympics, it's kind of like someone for the Cleveland Browns after they win the Super Bowl and they rip off their Browns uniform.
They're like, I'm not a Cleveland Brown.
I'm a human.
And you're like, dude, the Cleveland Browns just won.
Give some rep to the Cleveland Browns tonight.
tim pool
Like, why are you on the team if you don't want to be on the team, dude?
ian crossland
Right.
tim pool
Yeah, like Colin Kaepernick really tried hard to get back in the NFL, though.
So this is what my point I'm trying to say is.
I don't think she actually knows or cares, for the most part, about any of this.
I think she was standing there, and the thought probably occurred to her, if I stand for the anthem, the left is going to come after me and say, what are you doing, Black Lives Matter, all that stuff.
And so she was between a rock and a hard place.
I think about Colin Kaepernick, who's like, I'm gonna kneel during the NFL.
And so then he gets basically caught.
Nobody wants him.
And he's desperate to get back in.
Years later, the dude is so desperate to get back in, he can't do it.
adrianne curry
Nobody wants him.
I'm so glad.
Do you really think they would have came after though?
Would it even have been a moment that anyone would have cared about at all?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
In her circles though.
adrianne curry
What, with her four friends?
tim pool
Several years ago, she protested something and lost sponsors over it.
So it seems like she might be someone who lives in that, you know, paranoid, far-left Twitter reality where she's like... Yeah, get off Twitter, girl.
adrianne curry
Free yourself.
unidentified
Everyone leave Twitter.
It's amazing.
adrianne curry
I'm happy here.
Every moment is a joy.
ian crossland
Yeah, what has life been like?
tim pool
Twitter is the worst thing.
adrianne curry
Life has been great.
My husband, I'm plugged from all the matrix.
He's, I mean, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, everything.
And what we learned was we wasted a hell of a lot of time sitting on these little things, looking into our phones, like I got Faraday bags, like shut off the phone.
tim pool
I heard he fights bears now, he learned how to box grizzlies, and he gained 200 pounds of muscle.
adrianne curry
He's always been huge, and he walks in front of me because we're in a traditional relationship.
I'm totally fine being the woman, that doesn't mean I'm not empowered, but that's my dude, and he is not a soy latte, and if a bear is coming, he will die first.
tim pool
Like a rooster.
He would like run into battle.
adrianne curry
Yes, I'm his main hen.
lydia smith
That's right.
adrianne curry
And if there's another hen, I'm gonna go pick that chick.
tim pool
Roosters sacrifice themselves.
unidentified
Whoa.
They do?
tim pool
For their girls.
ian crossland
Wow.
adrianne curry
Have you ever seen the videos of roosters like battling hawks and like crazy predators?
Dude, they go for it.
They're like, that's my girl!
unidentified
And they do it.
tim pool
It's the ultimate compliment.
I didn't say chicken.
Chicken's the disparaging one.
Rooster is the opposite.
Roosters are brave.
They'll run at a giant predator knowing they'll die right into battle.
adrianne curry
They're the embodiment of testosterone.
They serve no purpose other than have sex all day, protect my chicks.
lydia smith
That's right.
ian crossland
That's like ancient dinosaur DNA.
adrianne curry
Thank God I have a monogamous rooster.
unidentified
We pretty much do the same thing.
tim pool
I didn't mean he was polygamous in the rooster sense.
I meant it was the noble rooster rushing into battle, willing to die for his women.
ian crossland
I wanted to point out, you mentioned before we went on, that bears hate loud noises.
So bear spray is one thing, but hitting them with like an air siren.
adrianne curry
Okay, when you hike, You gotta, like, be loud.
So my husband will hike and stuff, and if it's not hibernation time, because we have grizzlies all over, we're just like, hey bear!
Hey bear!
And then we're like, by the way, blah, blah, blah.
And then we'll slap and be like, whoop!
Because they don't like it.
So when they hear you coming...
But a lot of people make the mistake, they're like, it's so peaceful, everyone be quiet.
And then you come around a corner and there's a sow and her cubs.
lydia smith
Oh boy.
adrianne curry
Good luck.
tim pool
I was just riding bikes with my girlfriend down the Appalachian Trail and it was getting dark and I was like, this is going to be awesome.
adrianne curry
It's deer o'clock.
Did they all jump in front of your bike and try to kill themselves?
tim pool
No, but they were, like, on the road, and, like, they weren't having any of us.
But, so, we rode a few miles, we're riding back, and now it's almost pitch black, and it was awesome, because you can't see anything, and then Allison's chain popped off her bike.
unidentified
Oh, no!
tim pool
And so we had to stop.
ian crossland
That's like Jurassic Park.
tim pool
And then I'm standing there, and it's really quiet, and we're, like, I'm lifting the bike up and just trying to get it on, and we hear, like...
And I'm like, there's something out there!
Like, you can hear something running through the- It's Stephen King's The Mist!
unidentified
There's something in The Mist!
tim pool
And I was like, I'm like, hurry up!
I don't want to stand here in the middle of the woods in the middle of the night!
And like, we jumped back under.
It was awesome, though.
It was so exciting.
Like, there were probably a thousand weird, creepy noises.
And all like, I had no idea what it was, but there was something big, like, running through around us.
And I'm like, something's cool.
adrianne curry
I like in the middle of the night, I get to hear the wolf packs howling.
And it's the most beautiful sound.
So great.
They actually got my husband's buck last hunting season.
He was so mad.
He was on the hunt for a buck.
And he heard the wolves and he's like, Oh, wolves.
And then he came up and there was its rack and this decimated buck and he's like, Oh, so had he already killed the buck?
No, he had his eye on it, so he was out, like, tracking, trying to get it, and he did, but a little too late.
ian crossland
Do you have, like, positive interactions with wolves?
adrianne curry
Um, one came out.
We were going to Bowman Lake, which is in Glacier National Park, like in the boonies, and a black wolf walked in front of the car.
And your brain's like, oh, it's a dog.
It's not a dog.
It was a black wolf.
Gold, gold eyes.
It looked us dead in the eye and it took a dump right there.
And I'm like, he's really comfortable with us.
Like, it's very rare to see a wolf.
And I have pictures of him just Pinching a loaf right in front of me.
unidentified
I was like, what is this guy doing?
It was really magical.
adrianne curry
Especially since my husband and I, all we do is talk about poop.
So I'm like, of course they came.
They came to bring us entertainment.
tim pool
It's basically how dogs came to be.
You know, the wolves eventually were like, you know what?
I can poop in front of that guy.
Totally!
And the guy was like, yo, check out this wolf.
adrianne curry
And then when you poover your cats and your dogs are like, what you doing in there, guys?
unidentified
Can I get in on this?
tim pool
Yeah.
You're like, what are you doing?
It's my door.
Well, let's let's let's let's keep going on the conversation we were having about the Olympics and stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Because we have this story that I want to talk about.
We mentioned it.
The CEO of Nike says Nike is a brand that is of China and for China.
I mean, that makes sense.
Weren't they using, like, slave labor in Southeast Asia or sweatshops or something?
ian crossland
Yeah, notoriously.
tim pool
So, basically, there's a boycott.
They say Nike CEO John Donahoe defended the company's business in China this week, saying that Nike is a brand of China for China following a consumer boycott in the country.
He made the remark during a call with Wall Street analysts on the company's fourth quarter earnings when asked about competition from Chinese companies.
Nike drew backlash in China in March after it issued a statement expressing concern over reports of forced labor in the Xinjiang region.
Other Western companies also expressed concerns about forced labor of minority Uyghurs in cotton production.
Quote, Nike does not source products from Xinjiang, and we have confirmed with our contract suppliers that they are not using textiles or spun yarn from the region, Nike said in a statement at the time.
They reported a strong fourth quarter.
Congratulations, whatever, blah, blah, blah, on their profits.
Think about how great their first, you know, half of this was.
We do not source materials from slaves in the Xinjiang region.
adrianne curry
I for one trust them completely.
Me too.
ian crossland
Yeah, they're getting their sources about where they're getting their stuff from, from the CCP.
adrianne curry
Multinational corporations have our best interest at heart, especially those who deal with communists and employing children.
tim pool
They do vote Democrat.
adrianne curry
Not employing.
Pardon me?
tim pool
Do you vote Democrat?
adrianne curry
Oh, I totally.
I love Joe Biden and everything my former party represents.
No, I did not.
tim pool
Yeah, former party, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
adrianne curry
Lifelong Democrat.
Healing.
Healing over here.
tim pool
Isn't it weird, though?
There's a lot of people now who are even becoming conservative because they've lost.
Like, the Democratic Party has gone so insane.
I mean, it's things like this, to be completely honest.
Since when were the Democrats the party of big business and, you know, industrialists or whatever?
But it certainly became that, especially— Since the 90s.
ian crossland
LBJ?
tim pool
Yeah, I guess that's fair to say.
adrianne curry
Since the 90s, they were smart.
I mean, they had taken over all the art, and the joke was always, you know, we need the art-filled Democrats with all their ideas and dreams, and then you need the conservatives with their ability to make cash to help.
You know, those liberals reach their ideas and dreams and make profit.
And then I think the Democrats were like, why don't we just take over everything that they have?
Just everything completely.
And then we can push what we want and no one can stop us.
tim pool
I do think there was a big shift in 2015.
You know, we saw we bring it up a lot.
Bernie Sanders saying no to open borders.
And now the Democratic Party basically just adopted all of these neoconservative and neoliberal policy policies.
So now they're basically in defense of these big, massive multinational corporations.
adrianne curry
Yeah.
Like, I'm old.
I'm 38.
I'll be 39.
That's not what Democrats were.
Rage against the machine, which is now rage for the machine.
All of this was against everything that the Democratic Party is for now.
And it's mind boggling to me.
I just don't understand.
Like, all my friends are like, well, how could you vote for Trump?
I'm like, uh, 2008 stock market crash.
I lost everything I earned in Hollywood and all my investments gone.
And then my home was worthless and I couldn't even sell it.
And people were like, you know what?
We'll just take the note.
I'm like, what does that mean?
They're like, you just sign the house over to them and they pick up the payments so you don't file bankruptcy.
Yeah.
tim pool
So that happened to you?
adrianne curry
Yes.
So when people are like, but Joe Biden and Orange Man bad.
I'm like, Joe Biden ruined my life.
Like my life was ruined.
So I just couldn't understand, especially all the Bernie people.
I'm like, Bernie got robbed again, and you guys are OK with it?
tim pool
But let's be real.
adrianne curry
He was OK with it.
tim pool
I understand that Joe Biden ruined your life, but Trump— But Orange Man bad!
Yeah, he had bad tweets.
Come on.
Batman Orange!
I remember when Trump, look, look, look, okay, Joe Biden may have been, you know, well, to be fair, Bush was president for a while.
And then, you know, Obama gets in, but Donald Trump said Kung Flu, you know what I mean?
Like, I would absolutely welcome, like Bill Maher said, a complete economic recession, you know, that results in people losing their lives if it means no more Trump.
That's what Bill Maher said, right?
adrianne curry
I watch him sometimes because I'm not a bigot and I can listen to other people.
I agree with half of what he says and the other half, I think he's egotistically insane.
But we were both celebrity advisors once on the marijuana policy project.
So I do respect some of the work he did for marijuana reform.
But my God, has that man sometimes lost his mind.
But usually with just Trump.
But yeah, no, I did not vote for Trump.
And I lost half the people.
I did vote for Trump.
I lost half the people in my life.
Doing so.
Hi, guys.
Also, hi, Michael Malice.
You're the reason I'm here.
unidentified
I'm here because of you.
adrianne curry
That's the only reason I'm here.
tim pool
He has too much influence over us.
adrianne curry
I left my mountain abode because he was like, you should do it.
tim pool
So we had some guys over this weekend who were rollerbladers.
And we have these really funny things where it's like they're rollerblades, but they have bike wheels instead.
So it's like they go on the left of your legs.
adrianne curry
Wait a minute.
Is this like Return of Oz?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Oh, is that what it is?
ian crossland
I don't know.
unidentified
Shut up!
I don't know.
ian crossland
I just said yes.
I was thinking Willy Wonka.
adrianne curry
I'm so old.
You guys don't know what Return of Oz is.
unidentified
It's so good.
ian crossland
It was like a flop, right?
adrianne curry
Take some acid and watch Return of Oz and tell me it's a flop.
tim pool
Let's go!
adrianne curry
Let's go!
tim pool
The first ever trick done on these weird things, this guy Andy, he named it a Michael Malice Grind.
So he actually jumped up and did a grind and then he called it the Michael Malice Grind.
And I sent it to Michael and he was laughing like, how is this real life?
This is amazing.
Life is so fun.
He's an upbeat guy.
He's very optimistic.
adrianne curry
He's like the most cheerful anarchist ever.
He's just, I mean, I'm not into anarchy completely.
I understand and respect it because I'm not a bigot, but yeah.
tim pool
Speaking of bigots, you know, to go back to Bill Maher, I think what you were saying, like half the things he says are like nuts.
Him and Sam Harris.
Sam Harris actually tweeted something about this.
I was like, he was tweeting a bunch of people, I was responding to him, where it seems like what he was saying was, and I could be getting this wrong, so forgive me if I'm getting it wrong, but my understanding was that he understands everything's worse under Joe Biden.
But at least now without Trump, the path is clear for him to start speaking with liberals or something like that.
Like, well, now that Trump's gone, we can actually start talking to these people and talking them down or something.
And it's like, wait, wait, wait, wait, like everything's worse.
What's the what's the point of talking to them?
adrianne curry
Liberals don't understand yet that progressives are not with you.
They hate you and want you to die.
And your party is gone.
It's gone.
Because I considered myself Liberal right-leaning, you know, but that doesn't exist
anymore. It is only the far left and a whole bunch of old Boomers that don't understand yet that their party is dead.
tim pool
I think I think this want power So that to Bill Maher like come on you see this guy
complain about cancel culture. You see him talk about the SJWs he has Milo on his show
He has Brett Weintz on his show But he also and this is my assumption of his character
based on what he says knows that if he actually said Trump's not that bad
adrianne curry
He'd be figuratively strung up and I'll see you next time.
Ego and money.
He will never admit that he's wrong.
It'll never happen.
A powerful man who's been in a powerful position for a long time will never admit they're wrong.
Not even Trump!
They don't do it!
So yeah, he's not gonna do it.
But I do appreciate when he's trying to rattle some lefties awake.
Like, I'll give him that.
Like, I don't agree with everything, but thank you, Bill.
tim pool
I can't.
I can't say that.
You know, look, maybe he actually just has always had Trump derangement syndrome.
And I know a lot of people are probably like, who cares about Trump?
He's not in the Trump's going to run again.
And they're ramping up the tax against them already, because they know he's regardless of whether or not he runs, maybe it's DeSantis.
He's got influence.
So these attacks are popping up.
adrianne curry
You want to be punk?
You want to rage against the machine?
Vote Orange!
That's what I say.
ian crossland
So you think that Sam Harris and like others, maybe like Bill Maher, think that with Trump out of office, it's a more dangerous path that we walk now with Biden as president, but it's more unified so that there's more of a chance to succeed?
tim pool
I think it's that they genuinely didn't like Trump.
Did you say barrier of hysteria?
Biden and the establishment were really, really bad.
But Trump created a barrier of hysteria where they couldn't actually communicate with these
people.
So now with Trump out of the way, now they can reach out and say, OK, now come over here.
ian crossland
Did you say barrier of hysteria?
tim pool
Barrier of hysteria, a barrier of hysteria.
The media went nuts.
I mean literally Trump's like sitting there and the journalists are like twitching with their pens on their notepads and then Trump raises his hand and they go, and then he puts it back down.
adrianne curry
Do people trust the media?
unidentified
I did.
adrianne curry
I tapped out after Trump won because I'm like, I don't like him, but I'm not a psychopath.
I'm not going to like orange man battle.
That's when I noticed all my friends and family Collectively lose their minds where every tweet every post was orange orange orange, and I was like wow man
You're guys, you're like rotting.
Your brains are rotting.
It's psychological warfare is what's happening with this and I don't blame these people for having this sickness because more powerful people who are more gifted in like bending the human mind have got at them.
tim pool
This is the crazy thing.
I have friends and family members and I'm like wondering how did they get to this point It's brilliant.
I really wish we could adopt their strategies for us so we could make tons of money and live in the Hamptons and then warn everyone about global warming as we keep buying beachfront property.
Smart, right?
in. Like I don't I don't understand how that happened at
unidentified
all.
adrianne curry
It's brilliant. I really wish we could adopt their strategies for
us so we could make tons of money and live in the Hamptons
and then warn everyone about global warming as we keep
buying beachfront property.
Smart, right?
I want what they're having because I think they realize most
people are stupid and they took advantage of it and they are
laughing to the bank and people don't even realize it.
ian crossland
It seems like there's like a group, a type of person or a type of mentality that's like stuck in the matrix and doesn't want to leave.
Like if you tell them, look, Monsanto is fill in the blank.
The military industry, this is, this is real.
They're like, I just, I don't, my life is too good.
I don't want to mess it up.
Let me just live out my days.
And that's a lot of people.
adrianne curry
There's a lot of cowards.
We are surrounded by cowards anymore.
tim pool
You know, I often say things that trigger even people who watch even my own content, but I think most of the resilient people are the ones who end up sticking around and watching.
Sometimes people come in, they don't like what I have to say, but I can't do anything about it.
I'll put it this way, though.
I tweeted about people needing to stand up for themselves, speak out, and a lot of people said they were scared of losing their jobs.
They said Tim Pool doesn't have kids, so he doesn't understand.
I've long said I don't have kids, and I certainly respect those who are worried that they could put their families at risk.
But I also look at all of these leftists who are willing to sacrifice their jobs and scream at the top of their lungs.
Now, you know, you had this teacher who wore a Black Lives Matter mask and they threatened to fire her and she said, I refuse to back down and she lost her job.
You had a guy at Taco Bell, same thing.
There's a bunch of stories like this where they're like, I'm going to wear my political message even though it's against the rules and you can't do anything about it.
adrianne curry
But society is accepting of it.
tim pool
You know why, though?
Because squeaky wheel gets the grease.
adrianne curry
True.
tim pool
Most people don't like wokeness.
If most people just said, OK, fine, whatever, I'll speak up, then it would be the exact same for the right as it is the left.
adrianne curry
You know, I was never political until in 2020 when I was like, that's it.
I have to say something because people are continuously not saying anything.
I am not PC.
I am not, like, worried about your feelings.
Frankly, I don't care.
Like, get a pair of balls, put your big boy pants on, and let's go to town.
I had all brothers.
Like, everyone acts like a woman on her period without a chocolate bar, and it's making me insane.
ian crossland
I'll tell you why.
tim pool
I don't know if you're allowed to.
YouTube's going to be like that.
ian crossland
But she was right.
unidentified
And if I don't have a chocolate bar, I act exactly like these people do.
adrianne curry
Ask my husband, he will open the door, throw a chocolate bar at me, and slam it and run away.
ian crossland
I think the problem is there is some validity to the rage, and that is that we kind of do live in a patriarchy.
I've been thinking a lot about this.
Our father, who are in heaven, it's like the whole Christian religion is based off my heavenly father.
adrianne curry
Like there's a God, a man.
ian crossland
Why isn't it a woman?
adrianne curry
Because we are the divine feminine.
You guys don't function without us.
Men are the warriors, men are our strength, and women are the empathy and compassion and the caregiving.
We have our roles, and our roles are equally as awesome.
And I don't see it as a patriarchy.
I see it as You're willing to go out there and slaughter animals and hang it off my balcony and skin it and feed me?
Then you know what?
You deserve some some respect.
And so do I because I am the life giver, even though I kind of got cheated out of that one.
But I am the life giver.
So I don't know.
I see us as very equal.
And if you look through our history, there's a lot of celebration of women.
I think we just choose not to see it so we could be mad.
tim pool
Ian, you need to understand, women have always been the primary victims of war, says Hillary Clinton.
Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat.
lydia smith
So heartbreaking.
tim pool
That's an actual quote from Hillary Clinton.
ian crossland
Oh, that's circuitous.
tim pool
Let me read you this quote from Hillary Clinton.
Wait, Benghazi?
Hillary Clinton said, Now this was considered to be pretty phony by a lot of people because it's like, dude, those people died.
Like, defending you.
You're not the victim.
Like, those people who died are the victims.
But I'll put it this way.
First of all, Snopes says the ratings is true.
She actually said it.
Patriarchy.
So while the men go off and die and the women are victims because the men sacrificed themselves to save the women, the men were the ones, it was the patriarchy.
I just think that patriarchy is this idea used to generate support for some kind of movement that gives someone power.
It's that simple.
ian crossland
It's like the idea that men are secretly dominating society.
Like it's specifically men and not women.
Like men are trying to control the women.
And I do see that.
Really?
adrianne curry
Where were the complaints from the women on the Titanic when they were the only ones allowed to board the life ships?
And all of you guys, with your male privilege, were sent into the icy waves to die.
I didn't hear anything about patriarchy.
Women were the divine.
We were protected by our men.
There's a reason Because men are savages, so we find good men to protect us from the savage men.
And I think this utopia people have in their brain, that people are good and are going to protect you, is stupid.
And it's unattainable.
It's never going to happen, except the yin and the yang.
There's a lot of evil, and we have the divine masculinity to protect us from that.
tim pool
Ian, think about the noble rooster.
unidentified
Yes!
adrianne curry
The cockerel!
The mighty cockerel!
tim pool
The rooster will run into a predator that it knows will kill it, yells out a warning to the chickens who run and hide, and then it runs full speed to the predator, knowing it's gonna die, to save their lives.
ian crossland
Yeah, those chickens got a matriarchy going on.
tim pool
But hold on.
Do you know what happens if there's no rooster and the chickens aren't doing their thing?
They just get run up and mauled by the predators.
So we actually had to deal with this.
I know I'm making a kind of a joke about chickens, but we were talking to farmers and people who are chicken experts about just opening up the coop for the chickens to come out and do their thing.
And they were like, yeah, as long as you have a rooster.
I was like, oh, well, we don't.
We actually didn't realize we had one at the time, but we didn't have a full grown rooster.
You need the rooster.
adrianne curry
Who defended the villages?
ian crossland
Exactly.
adrianne curry
The women were the warriors when their men were out fighting to protect the divine feminine and the children.
If anyone came to that village, you know, F around and find out.
That is what happened.
Like, try her.
Try that woman.
ian crossland
At some point, it seems like No.
We let you think you're in control.
Women are the most highly manipulative creatures on this earth.
stuff hits the fan, we can protect the women.
No.
So like they still want to...
adrianne curry
We let you think you're in control.
Women are the most highly manipulative creatures on this earth.
The fact that you guys walk around thinking you've oppressed us
as all we've done is legit chess pieces with you simpletons.
I mean, we love you.
tim pool
She's right.
ian crossland
But it's the God is a man thing that drives me nuts.
God's not a man.
tim pool
That's part of their trick, Ian.
Wake up!
adrianne curry
That's all we do!
tim pool
Think, Ian!
unidentified
Think!
ian crossland
Letting me think God is a man?
tim pool
The majority of college students are female right now, and they're saying they're the ones who are oppressed.
They're the ones who have the college degrees and are starting to make more money.
If you look at the gender wage gap, it's not even real, and yet men are just like, okay, and they're trying to pass laws that keep empowering women.
ian crossland
Yeah, it goes back.
unidentified
It goes deeper than American... Every king had a really, really smart manipulative wife.
ian crossland
Or like six of them.
tim pool
And you are gonna be kicked out of the club because you've just exposed their secrets.
The secrets of the sisterhood.
adrianne curry
I don't care!
None of you are my friends!
unidentified
You guys are evil and vindictive and manipulative!
adrianne curry
And that's why I don't hardly have any friends.
It was very hard to find some that didn't do it back.
lydia smith
It's true.
Girls aren't nice.
adrianne curry
We're vicious.
lydia smith
We are not nice.
And I have long said that women are the neck that turns the head.
This is 100% true.
adrianne curry
Remember in ancient Rome where he's like, we will murder you all if you gossip.
unidentified
And they're like, ha ha, we will continue.
ian crossland
No, I haven't heard that story.
adrianne curry
Yeah, they're like, we will continue to destroy.
I have friends that catfished married couples, men, just to make them divorce and took joy in it.
And they didn't even know.
And then tell me later.
And I'm like, girl, you are mad.
Stop, we're mean!
tim pool
I love this Ian guy, he's all like, we're actually in charge.
ian crossland
I'm sorry, I'm just concerned with the system.
Like, there are individual bouts of craziness on all sides, but saying that God is a man is crazy to me.
I was about to let loose some insanity.
adrianne curry
God made Adam and was like, oh man, what a mistake.
I can do better.
ian crossland
Yeah, God made Adam first, and then a woman came out of Adam.
Then he stole from him.
It's like all man-dominated.
No!
And it was written by dudes in a... Bro, bro, bro.
adrianne curry
He said I can do better, so he made better.
tim pool
Well, this is what the book says.
Think about political power.
Would you rather be the face sitting beneath the sword of Damocles, everyone knows who you are, knows who to come after, or the shadow power behind it, the financier?
ian crossland
I like the shadow power.
I like the strategist.
adrianne curry
Women don't want that position.
We don't want to sit there.
Men are the ones, the proud peacocking, look at my feathers, I'm so great.
Women are like, I'm in the shadows plotting your demise and you don't even Actually, maybe.
tim pool
But let's like to be honest, to be real, I wouldn't say they're planning the demise.
Obviously, it's a joke, but they are planning their comfort saying, you know, he's gonna,
he's gonna for the longest time, you have the system where some women felt it was oppressive.
And in some ways it was there was social enforcement, like women typically didn't
have jobs. So it was hard for those who did. But they also didn't have to go to,
I don't know, petroleum rigs and lose their arms or go wait around in sewers,
pulling rat kings from That's why they didn't want to vote.
adrianne curry
They're like, we don't want in that crap.
Like, there was a whole bunch of women.
They're like, we don't want part of this garbage that these idiots are in.
tim pool
You used to have to be in some places.
In order to vote, you had to be signed up for the fire brigade.
Things like that.
And so, if you ask modern leftists, they'll tell you, oh, that was all propaganda to take away women's rights to vote and everything, so they wouldn't get it.
But there are actually women who are like, you mean I have to sign up for the fire brigade?
I don't want to do that.
Let them take care of it.
It used to be that service guaranteed citizenship to a certain degree, right?
If you wanted the right to vote, there was some responsibility expected in your contribution to the community.
And just, it started to erode.
It used to be that voting came with responsibilities and eventually said universal suffrage.
You know, you just vote.
Everybody votes.
Now, that's been exploited to a great degree.
And my opinion's actually been shifting on it a bit, especially after I saw Jon Stewart.
And this is an old article where he said that we should- Jon Stewart said we should bring back the draft.
In some form.
Because people have lost their sense of community.
He wasn't saying, like, military draft.
He was effectively saying service guarantee citizenship.
Do something for your community to prove you care about it.
And then, you know, he didn't tie it to voting.
adrianne curry
I still love John because he's not annoying.
He went away and he was like, I'm not going to be like every other celebrity on Twitter.
Look at how annoying I am.
I'm all annoying.
Like, shut up!
unidentified
I love that guy.
adrianne curry
Be funny!
Back of the twenty dollar bill, man.
Just be funny.
And that's what he is.
He's a brilliant, brilliant man.
But yeah, women aren't victims.
And when you don't think of yourself as a victim, it's just not there.
I don't I don't see it because I'm no one's victim.
I go into rooms and I command them like I'm not like, oh, I'm not in charge here.
There's a man like I've never felt that way.
unidentified
And once a chick feels that way, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
adrianne curry
Yeah.
ian crossland
That's for sure.
That's why the CRT stuff bothers me.
lydia smith
Yeah.
ian crossland
I don't think that people are victims, but it does seem like the system was set up by men to empower, give men like a foothold with the whole God is a man.
adrianne curry
Men were strong.
ian crossland
The Venetian patriarchy was like all about the old or the wealthiest man would control the family's money and run the city.
lydia smith
So when you put a man at the top of the hierarchy, who does he have behind him?
Who is he supporting?
Who is he pulling up with him?
He's pulling up his family.
adrianne curry
Dude, my man goes out and hacks down trees and drags 300 pound logs across the field, and if I commanded him to do something for me and it was reasonable, he would do it.
100%.
And I love it.
We're equal, but I know that, like, he would die for me.
This, like, powerhouse would put himself first.
Like, I feel great over here.
I'm a queen.
tim pool
And who did they kill in the French Revolution?
ian crossland
Well, the king and the queen.
tim pool
Exactly.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
No, look, look, look.
I certainly think it's obvious that sexism has existed for a long time.
And certainly there's been institutional misogyny in many ways.
And we've overcome those things.
But to act like women were powerless.
adrianne curry
Look at Cleopatra.
She floated Egypt longer than it should have been floated with the power between her legs.
She was like, wait a minute, I can manipulate all these Julia Caesar.
Mark Antony.
She was going for it.
Egypt would have fallen years before, but she was cunning and she was smart.
And they say she wasn't even that hot.
unidentified
She just knew what to do.
ian crossland
She killed her sister, I think.
Her sister was trying to kill her, so she had her killed or something.
adrianne curry
She was a direct descendant of Alexander the Great's first in command, and they inbred the whole time.
So I'm sure something was going crazy because they all kept it in the family.
So they were like Greek.
unidentified
That's why when everyone's like Cleopatra was this color.
I'm like Cleopatra was Greek.
adrianne curry
Okay, let's just be real.
ian crossland
Am I wrong that that we live in like a patriarchal?
adrianne curry
Yes.
ian crossland
Christianity is like patriarchal?
adrianne curry
You have been brainwashed by a bunch of weak idiots that want me to be a victim and I'm not.
ian crossland
Am I right?
Is it true that Christianity is patriarchal?
I don't see it that way.
Or that Catholicism is patriarchal.
tim pool
I think the answer to that is yes.
adrianne curry
OK, look, Eve went and she did what she wanted.
She was like, I'm going to do what I want.
And then the dude suffered for it, just like my husband does every day when I make decisions.
unidentified
Right?
adrianne curry
So I don't find it like the patriarch.
I don't know.
I just look at the world differently.
And once you do, like, you just don't feel it.
I think it used to be a little sucky.
But like, I walk around every single day, like, armed and I feel good.
The great equalizer on me.
I'm just like, whatever.
I'm powerful.
tim pool
It sounds like you're saying that men sort of planned this.
But I just don't see that.
I think when you look at... We talked about this in a bunch of our dating segments.
If you have a hundred men and one woman, your civilization is in serious danger.
If you have a hundred women and one man, your civilization will probably thrive because you're gonna have a lot more kids.
That natural component of human existence Means there's always gonna be a bias in favor of protecting women as more valuable, just like the rooster sacrificing himself.
If you have 100 men and 100 women, you can lose 99 men in battle, and your tribe, your village, your town will survive.
Not so much the other way around.
That's why in like, there was raping and pillaging.
It meant to steal, but they would take the women because the women were the most important thing.
So you look at that from an evolutionary perspective or a sociological perspective and over time you're going to see more and more institutions rise up solely to protect women.
I can certainly imagine at a certain point it became overbearing and especially as we've become safer and safer we have secured the borders of this country or at least we did a while ago to the point Where it's totally it's way safer now
You don't got to worry about bandidos coming in and Viking Raiders storming the beaches and stealing your women
So now we don't need a lot of those protections But to act like we're more powerless when they were the
ones that were basically the reason for the can we make this nerdy?
adrianne curry
Game of Thrones Cersei Lannister, in season one or two, cowered in the Red Keep as all the men fought.
And she was scared, oh my god, Stannis is gonna come kill me.
That diabolical scheming broad.
Near the end, you knew who was in power.
She killed her husband.
She did all this horrible crap to everyone.
Banger brother had bastard children.
Everything wrong that happened in King's Landing was because of her And then she sat on the Iron Throne like, yep, I did it.
So who was in power, Ian?
Who was it?
ian crossland
She was in Game of Thrones.
unidentified
It was Cersei!
ian crossland
Cersei was running the show.
adrianne curry
Until those stones smashed her head in.
ian crossland
I mean, it was her dad.
adrianne curry
Until season 8 destroyed all her life.
tim pool
George R. R. Martin was like, I should have come out.
adrianne curry
It's just a big troll like me and Chad.
It's just a troll.
It's all a lie.
unidentified
I'm blackmailed.
adrianne curry
There's never any books.
unidentified
He ran out of ideas.
ian crossland
They got a retcon it.
Yeah, they can do it.
Just rewrite season five, six and seven.
tim pool
Well, it's like there's a show called Full Metal Alchemist.
Have you ever heard of it?
ian crossland
I've heard of it.
adrianne curry
I've heard of it.
tim pool
It's an anime.
So the way they do anime is like someone will write the comic version, and then they'll start animating, you know, a month.
So like, they're on chapter 10, they're making episode one of the show.
And so the comic is always ahead of the show.
In this instance, the comic stopped and the show kept going.
And then they later came back and redid a new branch of the show with the new storyline.
adrianne curry
So if they decide to redo seasons seven and eight with like the new fixed writing, We'll have CGI like when they make like old or young Kurt Russell and not Avengers.
ian crossland
Snake Plissken.
tim pool
Ant-Man.
adrianne curry
Not Ant-Man, the really cool ones with stupid... Guardians of the Galaxy?
Yes!
I always forget that.
I have like a little hate in my heart.
I'll tell you guys off camera.
tim pool
Who played the guy in Ant-Man?
The old guy?
ian crossland
I didn't see it.
I can't remember his name.
tim pool
You know who I'm talking about?
adrianne curry
Yeah, wasn't he the one that got throat cancer from cunnilingus?
ian crossland
Oh, what?
adrianne curry
Wasn't he married to Catherine Zeta-Jones?
ian crossland
Oh, that's Michael Douglas.
adrianne curry
Yes!
unidentified
Is that him?
tim pool
They de-aged him in Ant-Man.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tim pool
He's like a young version.
And in the Avengers.
There's like a 20-year-old version.
Yeah, and I thought it was pretty good.
adrianne curry
So they could do that for Game of Thrones.
Problem fixed, we're good.
tim pool
Just give me like a stick figure animation explaining the fixed version of it.
I'm satisfied.
Like, here's the quick synopsis.
We fixed the storyline.
I'm sure fans have done it.
adrianne curry
Jon Snow can say something besides, I don't want it.
unidentified
She's my queen.
ian crossland
Dude, they should have brought Ned Stark back.
I mean, come on, guys.
Use magic.
adrianne curry
Use the Red Queen.
ian crossland
Bring him back.
Reunite the Starks.
That would have been the best.
adrianne curry
When they stole Dany's dragons in the Houses of the Undying, she had visions of him without his head and Robb Stark with a wolf on his head, and they didn't show.
And I was like, damn, that would have been real cool.
Anyway, I'm sorry.
I took us way off.
Patriarch.
ian crossland
Good show.
tim pool
We were actually talking about Like, at some point, the media.
And so I pulled up this tweet from Glenn Greenwald.
I have no idea when I was planning on segueing to this, but we went to Game of Thrones.
So anyway, let's just rewind and then segue to this tweet from Glenn Greenwald.
So Glenn's great.
He tweeted, however shockingly tiny and minuscule you think MSNBC and CNN's audience size is, it's way smaller than even that.
MSNBC barely has an audience on the weekends.
I'm concerned their ratings are going to fall into negatives, which shouldn't be possible.
I just love the absolute snark from Glenn.
So, how many viewers do you think MSNBC gets at 8 p.m.
on Sunday?
Like, how many viewers do you think?
adrianne curry
Okay, it's not good.
I'm gonna go into a couple hundred thousand.
ian crossland
Six million.
tim pool
Six million?
ian crossland
Is that too many?
unidentified
That's so generous.
Check this out.
adrianne curry
Fox News total viewers is 1.2 million Sunday at 8 p.m.
tim pool
Life, Liberty & Levin.
124,000 viewers between the ages of 25 and 54.
Total viewers is 1.2 million Sunday at 8pm. Life, Liberty and Live-In. 124,000 viewers
between the ages of 25 and 54. That means most of their viewers, like 1.1 million,
are over the age of 54. CNN gets 473,000 viewers above the age of 55 and older, and only 78,000
25 to 54.
And MSNBC gets 49,000 people in the key demo.
You know what's crazy is we don't even do a show that day, and our clips do better than on their own.
adrianne curry
My crappy reality TV shows.
Destroyed these people and that was back in the day.
unidentified
Wow Wow, how pathetic?
adrianne curry
Why did they like have so much power who was propping them up?
tim pool
I'm feeling pretty good.
adrianne curry
You should but you should also feel pretty scared.
They're gonna come for you.
tim pool
No, it's like, um, what was I?
It's like they're a withered and drying, you know, husk.
Yeah, like, yeah, I'm going to destroy you.
adrianne curry
And I'm like, dark crystal.
Yeah, they're, they're, they're suck out life.
tim pool
But I saw Lord of the Rings, so they're like Smeagol.
And the Precious is their ring.
And we got it.
We have the views.
It's more decentralized.
There's a bunch of different channels that get tons of views.
But you know what's amazing?
Key demographic.
This is the main issue.
Almost all of the viewers for Fox, MSNBC, and CNN are 55 and older.
No disrespect to them, but what do you think that means in 10, 20 years?
They're done.
It's over.
adrianne curry
Well, that's why all the big tech is trying so hard because they know that they've brainwashed all these children and that TikTok is where they get their news.
We're so pathetic.
tim pool
We're on TikTok.
adrianne curry
I am not on TikTok.
tim pool
We got clips going up on TikTok.
unidentified
Really?
adrianne curry
I thought that's Commie China stuff.
What are you doing?
tim pool
Fighting back on the battlefield, I guess.
So we put up clips everywhere.
adrianne curry
I don't blame you.
tim pool
And if we can put clips up from this show on platforms like TikTok, good.
Then the younger people who are there... I actually think it's mostly older people, to be completely honest.
Maybe not completely, but there's a lot of older people on it.
adrianne curry
Are there filters?
tim pool
I don't know.
adrianne curry
Oh, like those beauty filters?
That's where all old chicks like me were like, oh, hey, I'm 22 again.
ian crossland
We should put a clip up with beauty filters one day.
adrianne curry
Yeah.
unidentified
Just Ian as like a 17 year old Korean.
tim pool
No, but we, we, we, we, I was thinking about this.
You know, a lot of people have been like, Tim, why won't you quit YouTube?
Because they're censoring people.
And I'm like, it's a massive battlefield.
Why would we give up ground that we didn't lose yet?
You know?
unidentified
Sure.
adrianne curry
People ask me all the time while I'm still on Facebook, because I say things and they're like, how are you still here?
I'm like, don't know, for one.
And for two, I like built this crap.
I don't want to lose it.
You build something, you don't want to just bounce right into the ground, darling.
tim pool
I mean, we're setting up the website.
adrianne curry
Yeah.
tim pool
Hiring people to do news.
Fully expecting YouTube will eventually give us the boot.
Yeah.
But until then, let's leverage as much as we can from these networks and keep pushing back.
Otherwise, just like walking away is... Come on, YouTube!
adrianne curry
It's TimCast!
They're good folks!
lydia smith
Keep them around!
I actually think it's bigger than that.
I think that we need to make conservatism and these good right-wing ideas cool.
And that means putting them on platforms like TikTok.
adrianne curry
They are cool.
That's why all the punk rockers and weirdos like us are like on the side now.
We are the cool ones.
tim pool
But did you see Bad Religion did that like weird pro alt-right song?
adrianne curry
No, every time people forward me these cringy songs, they're like, you're gonna love it.
I'm like, yeah, no, I have a life.
And then I don't watch it.
If there's a cat, it's on.
Or a chicken, watching it.
tim pool
Check it out.
The reason the ratings are in the gutter for MSNBC worse than CNN is that they excised their legitimate audience for Orange Man Bad.
They were so desperate to get ratings that they were like, let's keep saying Trump sucks.
Well, let's say, you know, a few years ago, they had 100,000 key demo viewers, and 75,000 are rational, moderate people like us.
They went so insane, they lost all of them, but they gained half a million to a million Trump derangement syndrome people.
Now that Trump is gone, their whole brand was, we're the anti-Trump.
There's no one left to watch with no Trump.
These punk rockers, it's the same thing.
For decades, you've had, you have some bands who have built themselves up like, We are the anti-establishment.
The war machine is bad.
unidentified
Yeah!
tim pool
And then all of a sudden they find themselves on the winning side.
They find themselves saying the same things as walmart.com.
And they're like, if we come out and say they're wrong, our audience that we've built will hate us.
adrianne curry
You know what?
I was kind of scared when I started saying things.
And you know what I got?
Every libertarian and conservative person just came and bought Avon from me.
And I'm like, what is going on?
tim pool
Like dudes?
adrianne curry
Dudes.
We have bug guards.
So everyone's buying SPF and this and that.
And I'm like, this is amazing.
So yeah, I got canceled by the left.
And my my fellow I guess patriots are very supportive.
I'm sure you guys are finding that out.
It was the exact opposite of what I thought was going to happen.
And then they can't fire me because I'm independent and all they want to do is fire me.
tim pool
So we went to a skate park.
Somebody super chatted us, and they were like, Tim, go to Wakefield Skate Park.
It's like in the D.C.
area.
So we went there.
And first of all, let me just say, like, wow, it's falling apart.
Like, the ramps are collapsing.
And I'm like, some little kid's gonna fall.
Anyway, there was graffiti, and it said, Black Lives Matter.
Like, some young teenage kids skating at a skate park.
We're like, I'm going to vandalize property with a corporate message from Amazon.com.
adrianne curry
Starbucks made me do it.
tim pool
Yeah, right.
It was like the weirdest thing.
I was like, imagine you go to the skate park and like some kids, like he walks up to the, he's got spray paint.
He's like walmart.com.
unidentified
And I'm like, dude, we were all like, you know, it'd be cool.
adrianne curry
Let's spray paint too.
Yeah, tool kicks ass!
unidentified
You know, sorry.
tim pool
People like that.
People used to like vandalize, like to break, to do damage.
I mean a lot of kids would like spray paint a name or something.
But you typically would go to the skate park and they would write swear words and draw dicks and stuff like that.
adrianne curry
Don't you miss the days where people watched Beavis and Butthead and we had to worry about kids laying in oncoming traffic
on the highway?
That, to me, was way more peaceful and better than what's happening now.
tim pool
Yeah, what happened?
unidentified
I encourage that to come back.
ian crossland
The internet, like, displayed some truth of what humanity is.
adrianne curry
The mask has slipped.
We're all sociopaths.
tim pool
That's what's happening.
You know what?
I was thinking about this.
I'm like, I'm 35, man.
I just don't understand these kids these days.
unidentified
I know, right?
tim pool
You're still young.
No, but like when I was 15, like I would go and be like, that thing I saw on the TV about us holding hands, that's what I'm going to spray paint?
We were just spray painting dicks on the ground.
adrianne curry
We weren't raised on our phones.
I didn't have a cell phone until I was 21 years old and I moved to New York City after I won Top Model.
So I didn't have this like, oh, it's my phone, every moment of my phone.
Like it is pretty cool, but you could put it down.
ian crossland
I heard that babies are being born with their necks arced forward from people staring down at their phones.
tim pool
This could be- They're getting spurs in their necks or something like that.
ian crossland
The babies, the new creation of human is being born different because of the way people stand, I've heard.
Neck spurs, okay.
adrianne curry
Unplugged.
tim pool
Dude, it's the Borg.
You know, the Borg from Star Trek.
ian crossland
Dude, that happens fast.
adrianne curry
You always say Borg.
I feel like it's a Zerg.
Someone's Kerrigan, the puppet master.
There's a Borg queen.
It's like Starcraft, yeah.
tim pool
No, the Borg has a queen who is hierarchically above all of the rest of the Borg.
adrianne curry
Well, I respect Trek.
I was never into it.
ian crossland
The Zerg have you overmined.
tim pool
It's also the... But here's the general story of the Borg is that they were a regular humanoid race who started incorporating different medical technologies into themselves, cybernetics, until they linked their brains and then instantly became a hive.
They could hear everything all at once and they worked in unison and all of their minds became one mission.
And we got these kids, they're on these phones and they're getting the corporate messages and they're like, yes, yes,
spray paint, corporate message.
ian crossland
Dude, you want to talk about being in the matrix.
If one agent sees you and then everyone else knows that you're there, that's like the mind can mind meld.
tim pool
It's like a.
So, you know Luke, right?
He's been on the show.
Yes.
We were in Germany together, and someone saw him in a photograph.
He was walking a different direction from someone else, and so they accused him of being a Nazi.
adrianne curry
What?
tim pool
He's walking down the street, and then someone points at him and yells, Nazi, and then random people get up, run up to him, start punching him and beating him and this other guy, Max.
This random German journalist, Max, who's just a regular guy, These people just get up out of nowhere and it's like you were saying like the agents.
One agent sees you and then all of a sudden the other people just like turn into agents and then start attacking you.
That's like what it is.
adrianne curry
I wish they'd do that to pedophiles.
unidentified
The bad people never get punished.
adrianne curry
They're like, buy them Learjets and give them money.
unidentified
And I'm like, wait a minute.
tim pool
And then Luke's just hanging out and they all... And the anchor person on TV goes, that's a conspiracy theory.
adrianne curry
Oh, okay.
tim pool
I'm so tired of humanity.
Can I be honest with you guys?
Everyone out there, I hate 95% of you.
You're a conspiracy theorist.
adrianne curry
I'm so tired of humanity.
Can I be honest with you guys?
unidentified
Yeah.
adrianne curry
Everyone out there, I hate 95% of you.
I'm Bilbo Baggins.
On my property, I have the sign that says, we don't want any more visitors, well-wishers,
unidentified
or distant relations.
Like, get away.
ian crossland
So this is Bilbo after returning from defeating Smaug.
adrianne curry
Where he's like, I just want to see mountains again.
I hate these people.
ian crossland
He was traumatized.
adrianne curry
I mean, Bilbo- Yeah, because he was surrounded by simpletons.
He's like, they haven't even seen the world, like most Americans.
unidentified
Yeah.
adrianne curry
We've seen the world.
I mean, I lived and worked in South Africa.
I almost died in Russia.
I lived out of Italy and worked on a visa.
Same thing in France.
I mean, these people have all these big opinions on the world and America, and they haven't gone anywhere.
I saw it once on Instagram.
It's like, OK.
tim pool
I think people are losing their minds because of living in their phones.
adrianne curry
Yes.
tim pool
Because they don't have real-world experiences.
So let's do a... We're doing a weird segue show today, but this one I'm greatly offended by.
I don't understand this.
Actually, I'm super not offended by this.
There's a guy named Ali London who has come out as trans-Korean, and he got surgery, I guess.
I don't know if he got surgery, but his eyes, like... So I thought it was funny, because this... It's like the supermodel Fox Lift.
Is that what it's called?
adrianne curry
Yeah, all those ch- I don't want to be a jerk, but girl, we all know.
tim pool
Ben Shapiro says, live your truth, Ali.
And then people are making fun of him.
So this guy, Ali London says, this is my new official flag for being a non-binary person who identifies as Korean.
Thank you for the overwhelming support.
It was so hard for me to come out as them, they, core, Ian.
This guy's trolling.
For sure.
He's saying his pronouns are Cor and Ian.
adrianne curry
I love him.
tim pool
What?
adrianne curry
I think he's great.
That's like all these people that come to the Italian Christmas party at my ma's and they're like, oh lasagna, hey, we're part of the family.
And we're like, hey, and they are part of the family, only they're not.
tim pool
Look at this Tweety put up.
He pinned it.
My transition story and how I became Korean.
You know what I find really funny about this?
The reason why this one really, really... First of all, I'm all for it.
I think everybody should want to be Korean.
Of course!
So I'm sitting here like, alright.
But it's just... I don't know if he's being honest.
If it's a big prank, it probably is.
but the idea that someone who's a white british guy wants so desperately to be korean and he's like he does a video where he's like annyeonghaseyo like oh my god i'm like dude i i actually my mom would make bulgogi when i was growing up he wants to be korean more than i do i'm actually part korean and i've not i don't even speak the language at all and this is some white dude in london who like wants to be more korean it's an identity crisis it's not real And people are mentally ill.
adrianne curry
We're all like, this is a mental illness crisis that we've never seen anything like this before.
It's like they've opened all the doors of, you know, insane asylums.
It's like the scarecrow in the Batman movie when he just released the drug on the people.
That is what the phone's done.
tim pool
TMC says British influencer Identifies as Korean after 18 surgeries to look like BTS singer.
I'm sorry, man.
This is a guy.
adrianne curry
He's committed.
tim pool
I think There's a lot of people who like there's transracial is like it clearly has been a thing for a while with Rachel Dolezal and people like Sean King where they're just claiming to be a certain race when they're clearly not and anyway, so you get people like this and it's it's the weirdest thing to me because I'm like I I had a bunch of, like, white nationalist dudes tell me that I wouldn't understand the alt-right because I have no identity.
They're like, Tim Pool is, like, mixed race, so he doesn't actually have an identity.
adrianne curry
You mean you're an American Mott like most of us?
tim pool
Like most people?
Like, how many people are like, I'm Irish!
And it's like, well, you're also German and Italian and, you know.
lydia smith
Yeah, a whole bunch of stuff.
adrianne curry
I'm Italian, Lebanese, Irish and Scottish, but I was raised by a full Italian woman whose parents and family were all off the boat.
And I feel Italian.
ian crossland
Because you were raised Italian.
adrianne curry
But I ain't.
I am an American mutt.
And when we go to other countries, what are you?
Oh, I'm Irish.
unidentified
They're like, oh, you were born in Ireland.
adrianne curry
They're like, no.
And they're like, God, Americans are stupid.
unidentified
You guys are so dumb.
tim pool
Well, what do we say to this guy?
unidentified
That guy's crazy and amazing all at the same time.
tim pool
That's weird.
I'm for it because we might get in trouble for even talking about it, but I don't see the difference between this or any other identity.
I think it was Zuby who was saying that race is a social construct.
He made a good point about this.
I don't think it's fair to say completely, but he said if you told people that Obama was white, they would say you're nuts.
If you said he was black, they would say, of course he is, even though he's the exact same amount of white as he is black.
You know, so probably to people in Africa, they look at Obama as probably more white because he's not, you know, not the same as them.
He's he's he's mixed race.
That's a really good point by Zuby.
So you look at something like this and he's like, OK, well, gender like biological sex, hard physical differences between the biological biological sexes.
But you could have somebody born in Korea.
Who could probably pass for white or someone who's born in France who could pass for Korean.
I've known a lot of people in my life who are just like regular white people and they were like French.
And they looked like they had some Asian in them.
I'm like, no, completely white.
adrianne curry
Oh yeah, my husband has, like, I thought he had Native American, and it turns out he's full Viking.
He went and got a DNA test, and I was like, that totally makes sense, you Nordic giant.
ian crossland
The Celts were all over the place.
They came from, like, the North, Northwest Europe, and they went to, like, East Asia.
They went to, like, Anatolia and past Turkey.
They went down to Spain.
Like, they were Everywhere.
adrianne curry
We're all humans, and colonizing is simply conquering.
And that's what human beings do.
We kick each other's asses, and we take each other's stuff.
That is what war is.
So when people are anti-war, I'm like, yeah, I'm anti-war.
And when you don't gloat how you're taking all their stuff, so what?
We've been in the Middle East forever?
Congratulations, everyone.
We took all their things.
Just say it.
That's why you're there.
You know what I mean?
But with this thing, remember the cat lady with all the surgeries, and everyone made fun of her for years?
She was ahead of everyone.
There's this like socialite that turned herself into a cat.
She was the original.
tim pool
Well, there was the trans cat, trans female cat.
I'm genuinely trying to get this correct.
adrianne curry
Is this for real?
tim pool
There was an individual who was born male who got surgery to look like a tiger and then came out as transgender as well.
And then, it's a sad story, ultimately ended up committing suicide.
So, I think one of the issues is that people who have, in many respects, an identity crisis, and they can never figure out who they are, I don't think that in many of these circumstances, like this guy, look at this photo right here.
From, what was his name?
London, Ali, Ali London or whatever.
This face he's making where he's like doing his fists, it's a caricature of Korean people.
Like, I don't think he's ever actually gone to Korea and met a Korean person, because they don't act like these cartoon characters.
There was a viral TikTok where a guy was talking to the camera and he was making these really creepy motions where he was like bouncing like this as he talked and doing like that, acting like a cartoon character from a Disney movie.
You know what I think it is?
I think a lot of people, when they grow up, and they're completely entrenched in seeing some kind of behavior, their brain adds that to like, this is what adults do, this is how they act.
So when you get a guy who's doing these face things, he spends too much time watching fiction, like this caricature of Korean pop culture where they, it's not how people act, nobody acts that way.
Could you imagine if Americans were walking around like NSYNC and dancing and singing with each other all the time?
It's not like real life.
Okay.
But they think it is.
So now he's like, in order to be normal, I have to be that.
adrianne curry
How old is he?
I don't know.
unidentified
24, I think?
adrianne curry
Okay, Ian, this is our generation's fault.
We failed the children.
People our age had kids, and we told them all this bullcrap.
You can be anything, Johnny.
You're a winner.
Every mom in anything you dream.
And this is the result.
ian crossland
We had a chance between 2006 and 2009 to set the record straight and get people to unify, but then we gave power to Obama and let him act like the new messiah.
It's almost like, you know, blasphemy to speak out against the guy.
tim pool
To be fair, what did we do?
McCain?
It's like, it was just, it was awful.
ian crossland
Ceding power to a president was the problem.
adrianne curry
You betcha!
I do miss that chick.
tim pool
Sarah Bailyn?
adrianne curry
Sarah Bailyn, yeah.
She was fun to watch.
ian crossland
It was like giving, we gave power to a president for the, for the last time.
Like it was the bit, last straw.
You cannot give power to one guy to run this country.
It's too much of a, big of a job.
adrianne curry
Well, I think, I think Americans did come together and then they vilified everyone for doing it in 2016.
They all voted For Donald Trump.
Except for me, I didn't do it.
But my gay cousin did, and so did his partner.
And you know what?
tim pool
What about Trump in 2016?
adrianne curry
2016, and in this last election, my gay cousin, hi if you're watching, made a gays for Trump sign all rainbow and sparkly, put a floodlight on it in the south side of Chicago, and was like, bring the hate crime, baby, bring the hate crime.
He was like, watching out the window, like, I'm gonna get them.
And I'm so proud of him because he's all like, I reject LGBTQ community.
It's been hijacked.
I reject broken glass and all this stuff that they're telling me is okay and burning them buildings.
And I'm like, my cousin is so based.
I was very proud of him.
tim pool
That's punk rock.
adrianne curry
Yeah.
Raised Mormon, gay as gay can be, and was gay for Trump.
Love you!
ian crossland
It feels like we had a chance in 2006-9, again, these years, for me it was very, uh, it was a growing period where we could have ended the war.
And we didn't.
And now the young generation is like, oh, this is okay?
Then I'm just, I don't care about anything.
Because if that's okay, then this world has no meaning.
adrianne curry
I wanted to end it.
tim pool
Yeah.
I was like, what was it?
Day two.
adrianne curry
Yeah.
tim pool
Get out of that.
adrianne curry
That's what one of the things that woke me up.
And that's when I started digging, I was like, wait, he wanted to end the war that
Obama lied to me about.
And then I researched and found out it was all lie.
tim pool
You know, I think you're right about they see the war and they're like, you know,
nothing matters.
My view of it is you grew up in a world where, like, you're literally born into a country at war and occupying the Middle East.
And it's like, how do you argue morality?
For all of us who experienced 9-11, there was a shock to our emotions.
And so they made that case, and a lot of people bought into it.
And a lot of people eventually said, we've had enough.
This was wrong.
It should never have happened.
The AUMF needs to be officially rescinded.
But for these people who were born into it, the United States has always been the country that just does what it wants, goes over there, and...
Throw bricks?
just kinda screws it up. So what happens is their moral compass is just like a corkscrew.
It's not pointing in any one direction. It's just like, nothing matters. I can be anything.
I'm a tiger Korean and I'm, you know, the, the moon is made of cheese. Throw bricks, burn
ian crossland
buildings, like crazy things that people are doing. Take what you want.
tim pool
Take what you want, nothing matters, right?
ian crossland
Extract wealth from the system.
tim pool
But think about this, the kids who grew up in a country, like a lot of these young kids who are now out with Antifa, they may have been, I mean, it's been almost 20 years since 9-11.
So you have these kids who are like toddlers when it happened, with no memory, with no experience of it.
Being born into a world where they're told over and over again, the U.S.
takes what it wants.
So what do they do?
They walk around with bricks, they smash windows, they take whatever they want.
Who's gonna tell them they're wrong?
adrianne curry
It's because we told parents they couldn't punish their children anymore.
I'm not for abusing children, but when I was bad, my parents and my old Italian grandma, she would take off her church shoe, get that hard heel and be like, kabob!
And I was like, oh, don't do that again.
I learned a lot of lessons.
tim pool
What's it called?
lydia smith
Chancla.
tim pool
Chancla, that's right.
The flip-flop from Grandma.
adrianne curry
It was not a flip-flop!
lydia smith
It was a hard church shoe!
adrianne curry
Catholic, Italian Catholic.
She was not messing around.
She's like, Jesus saw!
He saw what you did!
ian crossland
We had a wooden spoon with a hole in the middle, so the welt would grow where the hole was, but I didn't get it much.
I was like the first generation where they kind of stopped.
adrianne curry
Why didn't you get it much?
ian crossland
Just because I didn't speak up.
I played within the lines.
But also, like you were saying, we were part of the beginning of the generations of people that did not hit your kids.
Not that I don't advocate for hitting kids.
I don't like it.
I don't think you should.
But I was like, my brother would be like, I'm calling child service!
You know, that kind of like...
adrianne curry
I didn't have that.
My grandma was born in the 1920s.
She was Rosie the Riveter.
Her brother served in World War II and was in a concentration camp as a POW with, like, the tattoo, all of that.
She was having none of that you're calling DCFS.
That didn't exist in my house, and it was never to be said, and I lived.
tim pool
Think about it this way.
You get a kid who grows up, and we're not talking about abusing kids.
We're talking about a spanking.
adrianne curry
Yeah, no, no.
Abuse is horrible.
But if I tell my mom she's the b-word, and I did, and then my mom's like, what?
Which I deserved.
And then I sat there like, oh, maybe I should never call my mom a bitch again.
And that's what I did.
tim pool
I think there's a line, I think there's a lot of research that shows that corporal punishment, I guess they call it, is not particularly effective.
But I have to question, What's the research going to show on when you have a bunch of kids who grew up without punishment at all?
Or it was very much like, okay, okay, honey, okay, I'll buy you ice cream if you calm down.
What's going to happen to those people?
They're older and they're communists and they're throwing bricks through windows.
adrianne curry
True.
Like, when I went to school and we had problems with each other, we met behind the tennis courts and, I mean, bloodbath, fought it out.
Like, there was consequences to, like, things.
People don't do that anymore.
There's no, like, boxing matches anymore.
I guess you just go into your nearest city and brick out a building and light it on fire and loot your nearest Nike.
tim pool
Did you imagine being back in the day and it's like, you know, someone's tweeting at you and then you're like, sir, I challenge you to a duel.
And it's like, we're going to end this Twitter flame war once and for all.
adrianne curry
And someone dies.
How crazy would that be?
ian crossland
You have like experience and it goes up if you win the duel.
tim pool
No, it just pistols it done.
Twitter beef be ended.
No, sir, I will not debate you pistols at dawn.
adrianne curry
That's why I think everyone should be locked and loaded.
We should all open carry every single American citizen.
How many people will be like, you know what?
I'm gonna carjack that car.
unidentified
No.
adrianne curry
Because everyone in that car is locked and loaded.
I truly believe.
That we've fallen off the map of what we should be doing.
tim pool
This is the craziest thing to me.
How many times I've seen, like, on Twitter, there's a dude who's trying to violently rob someone with, like, aggravated assault, and then someone comes out... Like, there's a video where it's, like, a guy draws a gun on someone, and then a woman pulls a gun from her purse, and she shoots him.
And I see people on the left being like, she didn't have to kill him, you know, she could have done this, and it's like...
That's the mentality that I think leads to ruin.
adrianne curry
Yeah, they love criminals.
tim pool
The criminals who are attacking and oppressing should not have been harmed in any way.
And it's like, well, hold on.
First of all, I wish it didn't happen.
But if you walk up to someone and point a gun to their head and someone puts you down because of it, like, we're trying to stop that violence and we're acting in defense of others.
But how many stories have we heard where it's like a dude's running from the cops and he pulls a gun?
How about that guy in, was it Atlanta?
He turns the taser and fires it at the cop.
And so the cop fires in defense, and they're like, arrest the cop.
Oh wow.
I saw a post.
I saw a post on Facebook.
Some guy said, Chauvin is finally being locked up, and it's about time.
Justice doesn't always happen, blah blah blah.
And I responded with, Don't forget about the chaos, the violence, and the destruction.
If it wasn't for the terror and the violence, those jurors may have actually let Chauvin go.
Never forget.
Never forget.
It is better that ten innocent people suffer than one guilty person escape.
So saith Otto von Bismarck.
And the person liked it.
I was, I was trying to make a point.
unidentified
Like?
tim pool
I was trying to make a point that like, do you see yourself for who you are?
It is better that 10 guilty persons escape than one innocent suffer.
But the left today is absolutely adopted.
They would love the innocent to suffer if it means one guilty person.
adrianne curry
You're asking people to look in a mirror at their true, like in The NeverEnding Story when Atreyu has to face his true self in the mirror gate and he looks and it drives some men mad.
I've spent 20 years in therapy.
I've been looking at my reflection for a long time.
I think a lot of people should be doing this and if they did, maybe our world wouldn't be so horrible.
But no one does because we train everyone, just lie to yourself and say you're a good person.
There's hardly any good people.
Like humanity, what we want to do every day, we want to be selfish.
I cook delicious food and there's a crispy piece of chicken and my selfish brain goes, I want that.
I don't want to give that to my husband.
And then I have to override that selfish, worthless behavior and give him the good crispy chicken.
And I'm like, that shouldn't be so hard, but it's hard.
I want the chicken.
tim pool
You're a good person, right?
unidentified
Is that good?
adrianne curry
Where my first thought is I want everything good for me.
ian crossland
You gotta define good.
Good is subjective.
tim pool
Because you think about it and you decide to share.
The definition of courage is not being fearless.
It's overcoming your fear.
So you look at these other people and they don't have that self-control.
Of course we're all selfish inside.
What we're seeing with the latest iteration of this mainstream left is overt authoritarianism.
Look at what happened in Minnesota.
These people genuinely thought that it was better that all of the innocent people of the city suffer with bricks through windows and fires, with armed men escorting jurors in terror into the building, so that one man would not escape.
But we, as more libertarian types, take the opposite view.
It is better that the guilty people escape to preserve the protection of the innocent.
adrianne curry
We are Ned Stark and Ned lost his head.
tim pool
I think it was Ben Franklin who made a really important point, it might have been Jefferson, about why we must err on the side of defending liberty, and that means guilty people escape.
Because if at some point the innocent person knows that they will not receive justice, the system can't sustain itself because the innocent stop participating.
You get mass non-compliance from people who fear, no matter what I do, you will attack me, I will defend myself.
adrianne curry
That's why I don't like to travel.
That's why this is the first time I've traveled.
I don't trust even like a layover in a blue state.
I don't feel comfortable.
I'm not comfortable.
I'm just, I'm not.
And it's because the system is broken.
tim pool
Especially now that the World Health Organization is saying we gotta remask again.
ian crossland
Yeah, what's up with that?
tim pool
They're like, oh, Delta variant, now everyone's gotta get your masks back on, even if you're vaccinated.
No joke.
The World Health Organization is saying, even if you are fully vaxxed, it's time to wear masks, and it's time to socially distance again.
And the craziest report I saw, and I really have to say this before I mention this news story.
Don't take any of this as medical advice.
Always talk to your doctor.
And if you're unsatisfied, you can get a second opinion.
But always get your advice from a medical professional.
Because the latest story is, there are doctors advocating for booster shots with other vaccines.
So there are people who quite literally get the Johnson & Johnson, and then go get two more shots from a different company.
And that to me is insane.
But they're actually now saying, Apparently CNBC reporting that it may be required that all these people get boosters.
Now we've talked about boosters before, but now they're actually encouraging people to mix them up.
I would not advise that.
Talk to your doctor.
That sounds really, really dangerous.
We got the Delta variant.
Everybody's freaking out.
There's a variant this, a variant that, a country this, a country that.
So here we go.
adrianne curry
Think of it this way.
They've convinced women that injecting botulism into their face is a good idea.
And we celebrate it.
And everyone's frozen like this.
And everyone thinks it's this great thing, botulism in their face.
And then they tell us to put silicone implants or saline, which I've done, into your body.
I got rid of them because they're toxic and horrible.
And they don't even tell you the ingredients in the sack of fluid.
They refuse to tell you the ingredients.
In the saline or silicone.
They do not list the full ingredients.
They will not tell you.
tim pool
Just do sand.
adrianne curry
I had mystery illnesses for like six years.
I got them out of my body.
It turns out one was ruptured when every doctor told me it wasn't.
So this mystery silicone ooze was, I mean, if you're wondering why I'm insane, it's probably because a mystery silicone ooze.
So now the same people that like have convinced women's mutilate your bodies.
It's great.
Oh, and then all this, I don't trust anyone.
Everyone's a liar and everything's for money.
That's what I feel.
tim pool
We've heard over and over again about the variants.
Now you've got more lockdowns underway.
Australia is locking down again.
How long until these blue states start locking down again?
adrianne curry
Like, three days.
Three effing days.
unidentified
Aren't you so happy to not be part of this?
tim pool
I'm 50-50 on it.
Because I certainly think people have reached their wit's end.
adrianne curry
Boiling point?
tim pool
Yeah, I mean, I don't even know if the blue states can muster up what they did last year.
adrianne curry
Montana's fine.
We voted the guy that tackled the reporter.
unidentified
Like, we immediately were like, that's our guy.
adrianne curry
Giaforte, I think is his name.
He like tackled this media guy.
He's like, you broke my glasses.
Oh my god.
Montana's like, he's got a grit and put him right in.
So I feel he does pretty much everything Florida does.
tim pool
Think about what that means, like what that means for where we are in terms of the culture war.
unidentified
Yeah, it's that bad.
adrianne curry
I'm for peaceful divorce.
It's time.
ian crossland
I don't think it's possible.
adrianne curry
I think it's totally possible.
tim pool
You think Oregon will give up their serfs in the east?
the rural folk who are producing things and provide tax revenue to the cities.
adrianne curry
I think they have to unless they want ugliness. Like let's all divorce. I got a divorce without
unidentified
a lawyer and I took no money and I let him keep all my crap because I was happier without him.
And I walked away.
adrianne curry
And everyone was like, what?
unidentified
I'm like, nope.
I hope it all holds you when you die.
I hate you so much.
And that's how we feel about each other.
So let it go, everyone.
Walk their separate ways.
tim pool
In Eastern Oregon, they voted to secede and join Idaho.
adrianne curry
Yeah, I think that's fantastic.
tim pool
The state's not going to allow it.
The federal government's not going to recognize it.
They're going to poo-poo it and say, we don't care about this.
adrianne curry
So it's not for the people.
tim pool
But what happens when the people there just say, we, the people, have a right to choose who governs us.
We have all voted.
It is confirmed.
So as far as we're concerned, they say, bye-bye.
What are they going to do?
Send state police into these areas and occupy it?
adrianne curry
I don't, I don't know.
I don't know what I can say.
unidentified
I have so many thoughts, but I don't want to say them here.
tim pool
This will be interesting because these people want to be part of America.
They're not seceding from the union.
They want to join Idaho, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So if they keep paying federal taxes, the feds are like, we don't got anything to do with this.
So Oregon will have to send state police to the Eastern counties to enforce, what, tax collection?
If they say, we're going to start paying to Idaho because we voted and as far as we're concerned, we recognize this.
adrianne curry
I hope they do it.
I hope they do it.
tim pool
They voted for it.
We're a country founded upon the idea that you needed the consent of the governed.
So how does the United States of any capacity from state, city, to country justify telling five counties who voted to secede that they're not allowed to?
adrianne curry
I think this proves to you that voting doesn't matter and that they don't care at all what we say or what we feel.
It's just a cash grab.
Who knows who's in whose pockets, but we don't matter and what we want doesn't matter at all.
But I really hope they join Idaho.
I love Idaho.
It touches my state.
They're wonderful people, so come join us.
Greater Idaho would be wonderful.
French fries and potatoes.
tim pool
The state of Jefferson.
You've got, I think it's one or two counties in northern Colorado that want to join Wyoming, I think it is.
adrianne curry
Oh, that's fantastic.
tim pool
Because they're like cattle ranchers, and they're like, why are we following the laws of this, like, blue state, you know?
adrianne curry
Isn't it beautiful?
I mean, two realities.
People in the cities are in the hive mind.
They're insane.
Agent Smith, me, me, me, me too.
They're all the same thing.
So let's just guys go, go be happy with yourselves and pat each other's backs and let us run around with our guns and our glory and our pride.
And I guess, I don't know, we'll share the military.
tim pool
I don't know.
unidentified
I feel like, uh, I, I, I think custody of the kids.
tim pool
Yeah.
No, maybe Michael was talking about that.
Like there'll be a peaceful divorce, but there would be a common defense.
ian crossland
You know what I mean?
I wouldn't have it.
If, if someone tried to leave the United States, the military would take it back and then and occupy it.
unidentified
Yeah.
Good luck.
ian crossland
Reinstall a governor.
Like if Texas tried to secede, they'd blockade the entire Texas Gulf.
They'd send in military forces to conquer this new country of Texas.
tim pool
You know why it wouldn't work?
ian crossland
Well, a lot of reasons.
tim pool
It would enrage the people more.
So if you have 35% of a state voting for secession from the Union, And 60 or so or 50% completely abstain and then only like 20% or less, you know, like 15% object.
The vote carries.
The state secession has passed.
The feds come in and then start saying, we're going to occupy and reinstall the new government.
And then those uninitiated 50% who didn't care and didn't vote all of a sudden are like, what's going on?
They're all angry.
The best example of this is the Loudoun County Schools.
You got critical race theory, weird culture warriors always yelling about the social justice warriors, and then the woke people are like, well, actually, uh... And then the regular moms are the ones who stand up screaming like, why is this happening?
We don't want any of this.
And it turns out the most powerful force was the sleeping giant, the regular people who don't care.
That's the big challenge right now, and I think this is one of the things that the government is really, really terrified of, because more and more jurisdictions are saying they want to secede from different jurisdictions.
If a state truly did say, we want out, occupation in the era of social media means instant and rapid support for the cause.
ian crossland
Or you could see like, you know, the state of Washington secedes and then China invades, and then the United States encounters it to defend it, and it's a proxy war like Vietnam, and the entire state gets leveled to the ground.
Bad, bad, bad all around to separate pieces.
Because they could be like, yeah, you can leave the United States, but you're not taking our land.
adrianne curry
Everything we do from here on out is going to be horrible.
I don't think there's a beautiful, hopeful future for any side at this point.
ian crossland
I've been reading about like the Romans, the history of the Romans, you know, they would send like 30,000 men to battle and they would all get killed in a day.
30,000, like the entire city would be wiped out in a day.
And it would take hundreds of years to get back to where they had been.
tim pool
I think we're going to be all right.
I think because of the era of fourth and fifth generational warfare, I think the worst case scenario will be skirmish violence, like small pockets, and then if it does escalate to that point, it will be a somewhat peaceful divorce.
I say somewhat.
Because it's almost impossible to maintain this full level of violence just because social media, the rapid sharing of videos and photos, Now the one thing that could change that I suppose is the
pure hatred of the other tribe, which is like it is deep Right now the left the things I see them post on reddit. I'm
like the paranoid delusional reality these people live in It's crazy and and there's no convincing them. Otherwise
They don't want to I have family members and friends who have just completely lost it
And they they say things to me on facebook that i'm like That's not real
Like, let me show you that it's not real, and they're like, no, shut up.
adrianne curry
It doesn't matter if you show them.
It's almost like a woman whose husband has abused her for years, and she just can't leave him, and she will protect him, and all the lies that she is like this web of deceit, to the point where she almost believes it.
It's like Stockholm Syndrome.
Help!
Help us!
ian crossland
Look, it's a great metaphor.
You're in the mud pit with them and they're like throwing mud at you and you're like, no, no, no, no, no.
There's something here that's really valuable.
Look, let me show you.
You pull this ring out of the mud, but it's all muddy and you throw it at them because you're like, this is it.
It's this piece of information, but it's all covered in mud.
So to them, it just looks like you're slinging mud at them.
adrianne curry
I used to be that person where everyone's like, no, no, let me tell you about Trump.
I'm like, no, orange man, bad.
Anderson Cooper said orange man, bad, bad man is orange.
And that was me.
And I didn't even watch news.
I had this big opinion because I was programmed.
And then I finally pulled myself out.
tim pool
Do you remember when, um, Alyssa Milano tweeted?
He is, he's literally orange and that's part of his strategy or something like that.
Like she was actually mad that he was orange.
unidentified
I'm sorry, she sucks!
How did I get out?
ian crossland
Yeah, how'd you get out of it?
adrianne curry
I watched the Both Sides video, the real one.
ian crossland
What's that?
adrianne curry
The one that they didn't manipulate with reality TV editing, which I understand very much because I worked also behind the scenes on reality TV shows doing Frankenbites.
And manipulating things to make people say things they didn't.
And when I saw that they did that to Trump, what they used to do to me on TV, it was like the matrix, all the code was all in front of me.
And I'm like, my God, our news is a reality TV show and everything.
They're like, how can we manipulate this for cash?
tim pool
Do you know who was running CNN?
adrianne curry
A reality TV show producer.
And we had a reality TV show president.
Yeah, you have a reality TV show contestant here.
Everything is the Truman Show!
tim pool
There's a conspiracy theory that the show's not live.
ian crossland
It was actually recorded in 1877.
unidentified
It is live because I'm really trying to watch my mouth.
adrianne curry
Anybody out there knows.
tim pool
I don't understand why anyone would think that because we have like super chats and I read them and you can see them and then we read them.
ian crossland
No, Tim, it's quantum tunneling.
tim pool
The joke I made was that we record the show after the show comes out.
We go back in time and then upload it through a time vortex.
adrianne curry
It's like Donnie Darko.
Salvador.
unidentified
Love it.
tim pool
That's a good movie.
Let's read Super Chats.
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We're going to have I will call it a juicy and salacious Hollywood tale.
How about that?
adrianne curry
Oh, God.
ian crossland
No?
unidentified
No.
adrianne curry
Yes.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
TimCast.com, members only, around 11 or so, but let's read some super chats.
Okay, what's this one?
Bogdanoff says, Tim, I smashed the like button like you said, and now it's asking for child support.
That's awfully quick to ask for child support.
You'd imagine that would take at least nine months.
All right, let's see.
Ronan, Jack says third place in the hammer throw does not a Thor make.
adrianne curry
That is correct.
Burn!
tim pool
Oh, so these superchats are from earlier in the show, but I'll fight you naked says, being of Korean heritage.
I think it is terribly important for Tim to weigh in on the British kid that just declared himself to be a non-binary trans Korean.
Even spend 150K on surgery to look the part.
I mean, I'm chill.
Everybody should want to be Korean.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
You know?
adrianne curry
Yeah, you guys never age.
Bring it over here.
tim pool
Even Yeonmi, who is here, who's Korean, thought I was 10 years younger than I am.
adrianne curry
Isn't that beautiful?
tim pool
Yeah, it's crazy.
And she is from Korea, North Korea to be exact.
lydia smith
It's nonsense.
tim pool
All right, Jack O'Neill says, will your new paranormal show investigate Cheyenne Mountain?
We need to know why it takes so much energy and Air Force funding.
Yeah, I believe that is a 100% yes, of course.
adrianne curry
I got a private tour there because of military friends when they were shutting it down.
And I was like, interesting, you're moving all this stuff in here, shutting it down.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Yeah, I've heard that you see phenomenon when there's rushing water underground underneath areas like that'll cause electromagnetic activity.
Sometimes ghosts are seen in areas like that under mountains, maybe.
adrianne curry
Ghosts are under mountains.
I do enjoy your brain.
tim pool
I was in I think I was in Brazil.
I can't remember exactly where I went to an abandoned military base.
And it was so creepy.
adrianne curry
I agree there's been some creepy crap I've seen in my life, but I've never seen like a ghost like, yo, what's up?
ian crossland
Have you ever seen those like floating orbs?
adrianne curry
No.
ian crossland
Like balls of light that like you see in your peripheral or anything, or sometimes they show up on cameras.
adrianne curry
I mean, I used to do a lot of hallucinogenics and I saw a lot of things.
ian crossland
Tell me more.
adrianne curry
I stopped seeking those answers that I always lost once I sobered up.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
All right.
David Flores says Tim, I recently purchased the I am a gorilla t shirt and wore it to work and it was a big hit.
Of course the best shirt ever.
Go to timcast.com click the store.
Oh, you have one.
adrianne curry
Yeah, I was actually stoked.
unidentified
I love free things and you gave me a free thing.
tim pool
They really, you know, darkened it.
Yeah, I don't understand.
ian crossland
That was a little dark.
tim pool
Yeah, like you can't even see the suit.
He's a gorilla wearing a suit.
adrianne curry
It's a free shirt, and I got a shirt from Luke, too, so now I'm double-dipped.
I've got a phone.
unidentified
Nice.
tim pool
All right.
Anchor Agarwal says, has Adrian checked out Anarchist Handbook by Malice or Enough Already by Scott Horton?
If so, any thoughts?
Also, what would Adrian recommend for a city person who wants to adjust to the country?
adrianne curry
OK, I have the handbook in my hotel room and I need to start reading it.
But I was stuck into Jordan Peterson's book.
So I'm like, I'm going to get there.
How to adjust.
You know, you think that you can't adjust.
You just get over it.
It takes a month to learn new habits.
You move out to the middle of nowhere.
I thought I was going to mentally break where I live now because there I think I went six months without seeing a human being at a certain point.
And I was just like, Okay.
But you can do it.
You can do anything you want to do, but just make yourself busy, man.
Because if you're like unplugging from the matrix and you go somewhere rural and you don't have something to do, you might lose your mind.
Have a garden.
tim pool
We got an important one here.
The Real Hydro says, Ian, because I love you and I'm a true friend, those glasses are too small for your face.
ian crossland
Thank you, sir.
adrianne curry
Look at me.
ian crossland
They're also kind of dirty, I think.
tim pool
I don't think they're too small.
adrianne curry
They actually are a little too small for your face.
unidentified
Really?
ian crossland
Really.
I had these, like, round, like, John Lennon round ones.
Maybe I'll get another pair of those.
unidentified
Huh.
Interesting.
adrianne curry
But it doesn't matter.
Can you see?
Yeah.
ian crossland
Yeah.
adrianne curry
Screw it.
lydia smith
Here you go.
tim pool
All right.
Peter Watkins says, Ian, until you fold one and hand it to a grieving wife, of course you don't know why that cloth is so important.
ian crossland
The symbolism.
I don't know, man.
I won't die for a symbol.
tim pool
Yeah, I feel that way.
I don't like people burning the flag but I respect their right to burn their own private property.
freedom, especially those that have fought for that freedom or have lost
people defending that freedom. As burning goes, I have the same stance on drugs. I
agree with its legality but not with the morality." Yeah, I feel that way. I don't
like people burning the flag but I respect their right to burn their own
adrianne curry
private property. I don't like prostitution but I think it should be
legal.
tim pool
There's a lot of challenges that... Something interesting's happened.
Because the Democrats have lost the plot, I'm seeing a lot of, like, a lot of people embrace religion.
adrianne curry
Oh, I found God again last year.
Agnostic for years.
And I was like, yep, nope.
Good and evil.
I'm on the side of good.
tim pool
And it's resulting in a lot of really... I think it's opening the door for former liberals to actually hear legitimate conservative arguments on why they want certain things to be illegal, like marijuana or prostitution.
And there's a lot of interesting points that you don't hear when you're in the liberal bubble.
You don't hear the real arguments.
ian crossland
Why would you want marijuana illegal?
What's the argument for that?
Are you guys familiar with that?
tim pool
I'm not going to pretend to speak on the actual arguments.
That's kind of the point.
I've heard a few of them in recent because I'm now having more conversations.
But it has to do with the breakdown of society and community and social cohesion.
adrianne curry
Look at what happened to Colorado when they legalized weed.
ian crossland
Yeah, crime went up, right?
lydia smith
Yeah, nothing good.
tim pool
Well, it's like when it comes to prostitution, when it comes to marijuana and these things,
there's a limit in, first of all, can you actually ban them anyway? Otherwise, people
just do it. But also, I think it's misplaced enforcement.
When we had social enforcement of, hey, don't do drugs and don't do these things, like lewd,
lascivious things, there was social cohesion, and that was a byproduct of it.
So I think a lot of conservatives misplaced the loss of social cohesion, seeking legal ramifications
for these, you know what I mean? Like, make it illegal, and that will bring back what
unidentified
we had before, when what we had before was social. When we had a moral compass. Right.
adrianne curry
Yeah, or at least the facade of one where we pretended we were better than what we are.
lydia smith
I think this reminds me a little bit of how parents looked at kids who had high self-esteem who did really well in life and they decided that it was because they had self-esteem and not that they were like strong students and good upstanding young people that they actually had self-esteem.
So it's a case of, I think, inverted causality.
I think that's very much the same way for marijuana and stuff.
tim pool
You know you guys can't get me anymore, but I really do appreciate the Daily Wire producing that cut of me being trolled by the chat over Michael Knowles' book.
lydia smith
So good.
tim pool
FinecastleIE says, is Tim now humiliating his chat trolls?
I'm speechless!
Next he will control her words and her mind, like what Michael Knowles said in his upcoming book, now on Preorder on Amazon.
You can order it now.
Yeah, you can actually order it right now.
Uh, yeah.
Michael Knowles has a book.
unidentified
I know.
I know.
tim pool
People are... Do you know?
You're familiar with the meme.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh, man.
People are asking about my waifu.
Okay, moving on.
ian crossland
When you were talking about drugs, were you saying that, like, back in the day, there was social cohesion and they were attacking drugs, and now there's no social cohesion and a lot of drugs are legal, so people are thinking that it's because there's drugs are legal that we've lost social cohesion, but it's not.
tim pool
Yes.
80 years ago, everybody was like, hey man, don't do these drugs and you know, don't be a prostitute.
And they were all like, okay, social enforcement.
It's kind of like what Jordan Peterson says about monogamy.
Over time, society becomes less and less cohesive.
ian crossland
Yeah.
Especially with the internet.
tim pool
Oh, definitely.
It decentralizes different communities or different things.
And then you end up with people saying, we need to ban these lewd, lascivious, and degenerate things to return to when our society was actually functioning, was more functional than it is today because this fighting is destroying us.
There's an interesting point that we're becoming, as a country, extremely dysfunctional, like talking about peaceful divorce.
Some people genuinely believe if we have enforcement of certain, like, moral laws or whatever, it'll bring us back to those points where we had cohesion.
adrianne curry
You're still gonna have prostitution and drugs and the fun part of both was getting away with it!
Now when it's legal, what is fun about this?
Everything's legal.
I'm like, this isn't even fun.
ian crossland
I think a lot of marijuana psychosis comes from it being illegal, like being afraid.
For me, I was afraid I was going to get caught.
adrianne curry
They legalized it everywhere and I quit.
I was like, this is stupid now.
ian crossland
It was better in LA when it was legal.
adrianne curry
Well, what, when Obama was raiding everything?
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
It was shortly after, yeah, yeah.
It was 2017.
It was nice.
tim pool
All right.
Miles Kinslow says, Hey guys, Tim, you have one legend here.
Adrian, I remember seeing you from America's Next Top Model.
It's amazing to see how much you've grown.
Also loved your interviews with Howard Stern.
Wish you the best.
adrianne curry
Oh God, I'm sorry.
ian crossland
How many did you do with Howard?
adrianne curry
Three.
I was his first celebrity guest on his series and one of his last on his radio.
Cool.
I've lived a lot of life.
ian crossland
A lot of Howard Stern lately.
adrianne curry
I've lived a lot of life.
I can't stand his TDS, but I still like him.
Because I'm not a bigot.
unidentified
That's right.
adrianne curry
And that's what you do when you're not a bigot.
tim pool
Skeptic says, Tim, can you address your tweet thread about anonymous users?
How is it different than you towing the line with YouTube's Terms of Service?
Respectfully, Alex.
I have no idea how the YouTube's Terms of Service relates to the thread about anonymous users.
But we did mention this.
I thought it was really funny how I tweeted something like, stop responding to accounts that don't use their real avatars or names and watch political discourse greatly improve.
And that is a fact.
And a bunch of people got really mad and they were like, no!
And then people made videos like, Tim is melting down!
And I was like, I have 825,000 followers.
I can tweet something like, I picked some fresh raspberries today, and there will be like a communist squirrel saying something like, you're so dumb because those aren't raspberries, they're salmon berries or something ridiculous.
And if I respond, they're just baiting me into wasting my time.
I have too many followers.
I'm not trying to be disrespectful.
It's hard to sift through, so I barely even look at the replies to my tweets anymore.
adrianne curry
You gotta be a last-worder.
I was like, dear Twitter, you are all horrible human beings.
I hate all of you.
You're just vile, disgusting creatures.
And I was like, deactivate!
And you know they were like, BLEGH!
Like, they started coming in, I was like, goodbye.
tim pool
This is something really interesting that happened today that greatly exemplifies why Twitter is destroying everything.
So, Right Wing Watch got banned.
And I tweeted, we wrote up a story for TimCast.com, and I tweeted, you are burned by your own fire.
This is what happens when you advocate for censorship.
You get what you've asked for.
And then, within a few hours, they got reinstated.
On Twitter, I have 280 characters.
So I say, you got burned by your own fire.
On YouTube, in my 25-minute video, I was like, look, YouTube will probably reinstate them, they'll say it was a mistake, because it's probably the algorithm that's just hunting them down.
adrianne curry
That doesn't matter, they only get their news from Twitter, Tim.
tim pool
But on Twitter, without the full context, now like Keith Olbermann's tweeting at me, And he's like, what was that all about?
And I was like, as I explained in my, you know, 20 minute breakdown of what was going on in my opinions on these things, I gave the full context as to, of course, right wing watch is going to get reinstated.
adrianne curry
Idiots don't commit to 25 minutes of words.
tim pool
Of course.
unidentified
They're like with 30 seconds or less and throw a cat in there.
tim pool
Carl Sagan talked about it.
ian crossland
Oh, what'd he say?
tim pool
That excerpt from his book that goes viral every so often, where he's like, there's gonna be a future where people want soundbites.
Yeah, I tweeted about that.
Tiny soundbites, 10 seconds, and they're too dumb, not paying attention.
And it's like, that's where we're at.
There's a study that came out, NBC News reported on it.
You get, I think, 67% more engagement if you insult a political enemy.
Twitter is awful.
adrianne curry
It's a witch hunt.
It's the Salem Witch Trials, which women were in charge of.
You know what happened, Ian?
unidentified
I think my ancestor Anne Putnam was... Let's pretend you're my husband and I thought you looked at the neighbor bending over.
adrianne curry
I'd be like, she's a witch.
I saw her worshiping Lucifer.
unidentified
And then I'm like, ha ha!
ian crossland
You know, they were tripping on ergot.
adrianne curry
Yeah, and they were also trying to protect their husband's roving eyes, and she's a witch!
unidentified
They were all in control, and the men thought, oh look, we're burning witches, we're the big men, and all the women are like, idiots, burning everyone we hate.
tim pool
Alright, speaking of witches, Chris Brown says, Ian, stop it.
We do not live in a patriarchy.
Women control and teach our children.
Divorce rate is what?
Who usually gets the kid in the divorce?
Who then grow up and rule?
ian crossland
Yeah, I wouldn't say we live in a patriarchy or a matriarchy, but there are aspects of patriarchal relics in our society.
lydia smith
That is because we're based on Judeo-Christian principles.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
All right.
Trigger Happy SJW says, Adrian is the manliest person in the room.
She could probably bench Tim.
unidentified
Yes!
lydia smith
Look at those guts!
unidentified
I'm all man.
adrianne curry
No, I'm actually, that's why I had to marry such an alpha male, so I could finally feel like a woman.
unidentified
It's nice, right?
It's like, I'm a lady, finally.
tim pool
Yeah, he's fighting grizzly bears with his bare hands.
adrianne curry
Well, not, no.
He would probably die.
And then I would have to kill it and then cry over my fallen warrior, so let's not do that.
ian crossland
Do you guys have a plan when you're walking together?
Like, you flank out to the right, I'll hit him in the front.
adrianne curry
His whole thing is like, if I'm down and you have to do it, he's like, babe, don't shoot me.
Cause like, I'm like crazy.
I get crazy.
unidentified
I'm like, oh my God, I'm all stressed out, the anxiety, and I'm going to be like, oh!
adrianne curry
You know.
He's like, you know, that you won't miss there.
tim pool
Here's a good one.
Angel Joy says, imagine taking a walk as a child with your parents.
You hear a dog growl close by.
You immediately go to your dad who will protect you.
The next minute you scrape your knee and go to your mom to kiss it.
God protects.
adrianne curry
Yep.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's very Taoist.
lydia smith
I like that.
adrianne curry
It's beautiful.
It's meant to be, man.
That's what we do.
tim pool
Ben Walker says, Ian, don't get caught up in the literal for our father.
It's symbolic.
I recommend you check out Jordan Peterson's biblical lectures on YouTube, loved by both atheists and theists, at least according to the comments.
unidentified
Lydia was just telling me that on Friday or Thursday.
lydia smith
Friday night after the show, I was like, hey, you should really check out what Jordan Peterson has to say about that.
adrianne curry
I could watch him all day.
lydia smith
Dude, all day.
So good.
adrianne curry
All day.
ian crossland
I love him.
And he talks about the Bible.
tim pool
Chimpanzee full of snakes.
lydia smith
That's right.
ian crossland
What an epic bonus.
tim pool
He talks about the Bible.
Adam says, Montana is a terrible place where the men are bold and the women are cold.
Not you, Adrienne.
And you, you darn near freeze to death.
You can send us envelopes stuffed with cash and we'll send you a postcard of Glendive and some license plates.
I hear Colorado's nice.
lydia smith
Don't go to Colorado.
adrianne curry
It's already infiltrated.
Everyone just go to Colorado.
tim pool
Ghost Crusader says, finding out that Adrian is only a year older than me when I would watch her on My Fair Brady truly makes me want to cry.
Ugh, I wasted my life.
unidentified
I'm so sorry!
I did too!
So many years down the toilet!
tim pool
When you weren't having contact with people, what were you doing up in the mountains?
adrianne curry
What?
In the mountains?
tim pool
Yeah, like there's no people?
adrianne curry
Like being more and more insane, prepping for the apocalypse.
Every moment prepping for the apocalypse where my husband finally was just like, woman, stop watching all this crap.
What are you going to do?
I'm like, well, what are you going to do?
He's like, well, if You know, S hits the fan, then I engage.
He's like, but what are you going to do worrying about it all the time?
And then finally I found peace.
But I go outside, we hike, we have animals.
I love to watch the wildlife.
We have hummingbirds flying in the window and we're nursing them back to life.
And they're like, wee!
I feel like Snow White.
tim pool
When it hits the fan and you guys are in your bunker and then he comes out of the bathroom and he's like, you know, wiped his butt, he's going to be like, I was wrong.
I'm sorry.
Thank you for everything you've done.
adrianne curry
Yeah, no, my husband knows I run the ship, and I know he puts the ship together.
lydia smith
There you go.
adrianne curry
And that is what we do.
lydia smith
Teamwork.
tim pool
David Palmer says, is it pretty women that secretly run the world and ugly are mad about it?
unidentified
Yeah, I heard that all war is about women, fought over women.
Is that true?
tim pool
Nah, spices.
lydia smith
Oh, food.
Or religion.
unidentified
Food.
adrianne curry
Yeah, food wars!
Who started that?
Rome!
They're like, hey, we love food!
tim pool
Isn't it like more people have died over food tasting good than anything else?
lydia smith
Have you heard the joke, huh?
Have you heard the joke how funny it is that British people waged so many wars and colonized so many places for spices and now they literally don't put any on their food?
adrianne curry
Yeah.
tim pool
You want to hear a joke that I was told when I went to Norway?
lydia smith
Oh boy.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Is this allowed on YouTube?
I was told this by some Norwegians and they're very, they're a very woke culture.
They said, uh, how come there are no pretty women in Great Britain?
adrianne curry
How come?
tim pool
Because we stole them all.
That I was told that by some like Viking raids.
I don't think it's a joke.
I think he was being serious.
He's like, I was just teaching you, you know, Norwegian history.
ian crossland
Terrifying.
tim pool
No, it is true, though.
adrianne curry
They that's what that's all the beautiful Russian women are here.
Because they're like mail order.
Get me out.
lydia smith
Yep.
unidentified
Yep.
lydia smith
Russia sucks.
adrianne curry
It's also kind of cool.
But then it kind of sucks.
And then it's cool again.
tim pool
It is true.
Corrin says, Ian, your lack of knowledge of Christianity is astounding.
To be fair, I think everyone here has a lack of knowledge of Christianity.
Seamus is probably one of the most well-versed.
Please watch the series, The Chosen.
You can download the app and watch for free.
Largest crowdfunded show in history.
ian crossland
It is true.
I don't have much theology.
tim pool
Jack Murphy's been reading the Bible.
ian crossland
Oh yeah, I saw that.
tim pool
You know Jack Murphy?
He's been reading the Bible.
adrianne curry
I just got a hand-painted Bible from my sister-in-law.
It was used, and it's beautiful, and it's sitting there, and I'm like, well, I suppose I should do this, because I started asking her, I'm like, is there any verses in the Bible about being a better wife, or this or that?
Yeah, and then she like gives me this book, and I'm like, Okay, God, I guess I gotta read your book.
lydia smith
Verse 31, the Bible talks... Ian, I would recommend you read the 31st Proverb because it lays out the ideal woman and she is not a passive stay-at-home woman.
She works.
She has her own business.
She runs her family.
She knows what's up.
And the Bible, they put her price, quote-unquote, far above Ruby's.
And I'm like, that's really powerful.
That's really meaningful.
ian crossland
Interesting.
tim pool
Matt Bowler says, might have to hire Tim as a matchmaker cause he keeps having beautiful, common sense, no nonsense women on who would make great mates.
adrianne curry
Oh honey, I am so taken.
We don't stay on the market sane women.
The insane women keep, you know, functioning through.
lydia smith
It's true.
unidentified
Break up, break up, break up.
tim pool
Drew Richmond says, Tim, around 100,000 Chinese men built trenches in France for the Triple Entente in World War I. Some stayed after and married locals.
There is also a theory that the Chinese workers spread the Spanish Flu to Kansas when they traveled through Canada.
Interesting, I didn't know that.
Wolfstar says, Tim now supports cancel culture.
In regards to the Olympic athletes not facing the flag for the anthem, I've never seen anyone flip on a stance so fast.
What?
What?
What's the full context of me supporting cancel culture for saying, no disrespect, if you don't want to be there, why don't you leave so someone else can be there?
adrianne curry
Thanks for giving them your money for your stupid opinion.
unidentified
Thanks, Adrian.
adrianne curry
Sorry.
tim pool
Yeah, but I actually think I have a fairly nuanced take on cancel culture anyway.
Like, we've had this conversation.
Tucker Carlson was asked by somebody, would you allow someone on the show if they used a racial slur?
And he said, I would.
Exactly.
There are limits.
And so, I can't remember who we were talking to about this, that conservatives have a misunderstanding of free speech and are making a mistake by defaulting to, we should allow all free speech.
ian crossland
Yeah, we have a list of things that we talk about with every guest before we do the show, this show, that you can't say, don't do, don't do this, don't talk about this, don't talk about this.
adrianne curry
That's not your fault.
ian crossland
Censor yourself so no one else has to.
tim pool
That's us saying, don't swear, and YouTube has two very specific things they'll ban us for if you say it.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's important.
Don't bang the table.
tim pool
And we even after the swearing thing, we're like, if you swear, you know, it's kind of funny.
adrianne curry
But it's not like we're saying we don't you can't you can't talk about your opinions on, you know, you can't talk about the opinions that YouTube doesn't want you to talk about, which are the things I want to talk about, which is everything I want to talk about and believe in completely.
tim pool
There are a handful of things.
Absolutely.
But that's why we had to set up the website.
Because the risk is do we just shut the show down?
unidentified
Oh, I signed up.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
It's the future of internet broadcasts.
Direct-to-TV.
Direct-to-your-show.
Ooh, I watched it!
tim pool
Unfortunately, but there's like we had when we had Bannon on the first thing I asked him was the one thing that
unidentified
YouTube I'm not gonna say a word, but everything
I don't know a word that was said, I loved it.
adrianne curry
You know, I used to hate him because of my Democratic Southside Chicago programming.
I knew nothing about him.
And I watched him on your show and I was like, hey, that's that guy that I used to be programmed to like.
I'm like, I love everything he has to say.
tim pool
He says he's far right, but I'm like... What's far right about him?
unidentified
Everyone's far right.
adrianne curry
That's not crazy purple haired screaming and ripping out their own flesh.
I feel like everyone is far right anymore.
Liberals are far right.
Bill Maher.
Everyone's far right.
tim pool
Did you see on the show when he was like talking about the election and I was like, we'll save it.
And he goes, I'm not going to say the magic words.
adrianne curry
He's not a young man.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
ian crossland
I noticed with a lot of the comments for the Steve Bannon stuff was, I didn't know anything about this guy except for what I heard through the mainstream news.
He's nothing like what they said he was like.
adrianne curry
Oh, they're liars.
ian crossland
They demonized him.
adrianne curry
Yeah.
ian crossland
That's crazy.
tim pool
It's really crazy how he's like, we got to help the working class people and tax the rich.
adrianne curry
He was like, tax the rich.
And I'm like, oh my God.
And they brainwashed poor people to hate this man.
It's just insane.
ian crossland
That's really weird.
tim pool
WilliamJS says, TimCatsShow, you deserve all the success with your hard work and dedication.
Oh, and did Uncle Eddie, Luke, run away again?
No, Luke, we puke!
Luke did a great little presentation at Porkfest.
Oh, I haven't seen it.
It was great.
He's got a flamethrower.
And he said something like, freedom, like this flamethrower, can be dangerous.
And then I think he said something like, but it's a lot of fun, or whatever.
And then he fires the flamethrower.
No, but it was a good point.
Freedom is dangerous.
Like, we need responsibility.
You know, you've got a lot of people who are like, I don't trust you with your freedom, so we should control everything you do.
You have other people who are like, yeah, well, you know, I trust myself to keep myself safe.
So you do your thing and I'll keep myself, I'll worry about myself.
ian crossland
I thought, I don't know if you saw the Friday show with Yunmi, is that her name?
Yunmi.
I wasn't on the show, but I watched some of it and she was saying that freedom is painful for someone that has never experienced it because you have to think for yourself and it's, Dangerous and scary that you do it wrong.
adrianne curry
When I was in Moscow, the Moscow Times had a poll about freedom, and it said, is freedom good or bad?
And it said 98% of the people polled said that freedom was a bad thing.
They also had an image of Jessica Simpson in the back as an escort.
Apparently, in Moscow, you could hire Jessica Simpson as an escort.
Mm-hmm.
I took a picture and then TMZ stole it and didn't even give me credit and did an article with my picture like in 2008.
I was like, you jerks.
Jerks.
Yeah.
tim pool
Luke Dabb says, Adrian just referenced Return to Oz, The Dark Crystal, The NeverEnding Story, and full-out quoted Bilbo Baggins.
Did we just become best friends?
adrianne curry
Yes, I'm old and I'm a nerd.
unidentified
Old nerd.
adrianne curry
Yeah, it's a true story.
I met my husband on Twitch playing, uh, not World of Warcraft, the card game.
That's like World of Warcraft.
ian crossland
Hearthstone?
adrianne curry
Yep.
That's how I met my husband.
ian crossland
Were you playing against each other?
adrianne curry
No, I, I'd streamed out of nowhere and I played it and he came in.
I'm like, DocSauce, isn't that that big WoW streamer?
I was like, I play WoW and I'm a guild master.
And he's like, and I'm a guild master.
And he was Horde and I was not.
And then I faction and server changed and.
tim pool
And said there can be only one who challenged him for the title of Guildmaster and defeated him.
adrianne curry
No, he was the Guildmaster because of the patriarchy.
tim pool
Which expansion was it?
adrianne curry
Uh, oh my god.
What did I, what, with the Nightfallen?
What were the elves that were like, zombie things?
I totally forget what expansion that was.
We lost interest completely after What year?
ian crossland
Not the Draenor, Rathalich King?
adrianne curry
Well, we met in 2015.
No, Rathalich King was the best expansion of all space-time.
But I don't even remember, what, were we on Pandaria or whatever?
ian crossland
Was it Death Notes?
tim pool
Pandaria, that was the end for me.
adrianne curry
No, I introduced that.
I was hosting BlizzCon for DirecTV, and they showed the pandas, and then they came to me on live TV, and I was with, like, Swifty the Wild Player, and I had them in my microphone, and they were like, what do you think?
unidentified
And I was like, uh-huh, uh-huh!
tim pool
Yeah, it was bad.
Wrath was awesome.
unidentified
Wrath was the best.
ian crossland
They let you fly.
adrianne curry
Oh my god.
Epic.
Everything about Arthas was good.
ian crossland
It's such a sad story.
What class and race are you?
tim pool
Pandaria was like, that's when I was like, I'm not interested in ever playing this.
And then I played again in Legion.
And then I played, and then I played, uh, that was, that was basically, I played Legion.
adrianne curry
Yeah.
We played Legion.
ian crossland
What class and race?
adrianne curry
I was Draenei Death Knight.
And then before that I was a Night Elf Warrior.
And then with my husband, of course, I have to be pretty.
So it was a Blood Elf.
I hate being an orc.
I don't want to be an ugly thing.
I want to be hot with hooves.
tim pool
Isn't it like amazingly racist?
They made Kung Fu Pandas and Jamaican Trolls.
ian crossland
They even talk with that accent.
tim pool
I know.
unidentified
I didn't even think of it that way.
adrianne curry
Who cares you go to escape and not care?
I hate PCs.
tim pool
The Kung Fu Panda thing, I laughed when I saw that came out.
lydia smith
You said it to me.
I was like, what the heck is this?
adrianne curry
It was so stupid.
tim pool
Kung Fu Panda.
ian crossland
Pandas are Chinese.
Is that what this is from?
So is Kung Fu.
It's just very culturally appropriate.
tim pool
Didn't it happen right after Kung Fu Panda came out?
adrianne curry
Yeah.
Wasn't it?
unidentified
I don't know.
lydia smith
It was a while after.
adrianne curry
I just remember it was awful.
ian crossland
I blew through it.
I got the expansion later after it was already on to the next expansion, so I just flew through it.
Ten levels and out.
It was terrible.
adrianne curry
I just canceled my subscription and I haven't played now in years.
Every time something new comes out, I'll like, puddle around for a second and I'm like, this sucks.
tim pool
I still have one, because I played... What's the new expansion called?
adrianne curry
Uh, that's what I was saying, wasn't it the zombie elves?
Those cool night elves that are like zombies and they need drugs, they need meth.
tim pool
I don't even remember the latest one.
I played the latest one where they go to the other side.
ian crossland
Burning Crusade.
Burning Legion.
adrianne curry
No, this is like Cataclysm, all that stuff.
This is why it sucked so bad.
We can't even remember what we committed time to to say this sucks.
ian crossland
I made a Demon Hunter and then I played like one level and quit.
adrianne curry
Yeah, I had a Demon Hunter 2.
I don't even remember when it came out.
tim pool
When Classic came out, I played again for sure.
ian crossland
It was fun.
unidentified
I was like, yay, Classic!
adrianne curry
I didn't play Classic.
My husband was like, I spent my entire life playing Classic to get to this point.
Why do I want to relive that?
ian crossland
Yeah, it's starting to feel like that.
adrianne curry
Yeah.
tim pool
Alright, let's see.
We'll do a couple more and then...
adrianne curry
Sorry for the Warcraft.
ian crossland
I could do a whole Warcraft show, man.
Arthas.
unidentified
Yeah, that's a cool story.
tim pool
The trailer for Wrath was so amazing.
adrianne curry
I will still watch it!
My husband does voiceovers and he can do that perfect, that dude.
He's like, my son.
tim pool
One day.
unidentified
Do it again.
tim pool
It's so well done.
Blizzard makes amazing short films.
Like The Last Bastion.
Do you see that one?
adrianne curry
No.
tim pool
Overwatch?
Man, that one was so incredible.
adrianne curry
I never got into Overwatch.
My husband played it all the time.
Always late to dinner.
ian crossland
What I didn't like is that the reticule doesn't move when you run.
It's just perfectly still in the middle of the screen.
So there's no like gunplay challenge.
Whereas like Borderlands, your gun's bouncing around.
You got to like hold your breath.
adrianne curry
He was always that hunter guy because he was a hunter in WoW.
And he's a hunter in real life.
ian crossland
Hanzo?
adrianne curry
Yeah, he always played that dude.
That's Genji's brother.
tim pool
Alright, we got one more here.
Germgrave says, tell Duck to stream again, Plox.
I miss his arena matches.
adrianne curry
Yeah, he's not gonna do it.
My husband left Twitch, and I left Hollywood, and it's a good thing.
tim pool
And now you're mountain recluses.
adrianne curry
Yeah.
We hate everyone.
We're not gonna give you entertainment.
tim pool
Well, my friends, we are gonna give you entertainment, so go to TimCast.com, become a member, because we're gonna have a bonus segment coming up.
And you can follow the show at TimCastIRL on Facebook and Instagram.
We want to leverage these networks, get everybody to the website.
Make sure you smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, and follow me personally at TimCast.
We do the show Monday through Friday live at 8 p.m.
Plus, we got the vlog from Castcastle.
That's happening every week.
And we just hired, or just about to hire, three people.
We've, like, confirmed details with everybody, so now it's just paperwork, and then daily vlogs every day.
Do you want to, Adrienne, shout anything out?
Social media?
adrianne curry
At Adrienne Curry everywhere except for Twitter.
Yeah, that's pretty much it.
AdrienneCurry.com, whatever.
I'm not really that active and it's fine if you don't check me out because I get it.
tim pool
But they'll see you in the chat.
adrianne curry
Yeah.
Now I don't know if I'm going to troll it as much as I used to now.
There's no fun when you guys see my face.
ian crossland
Glad you're here.
You guys can follow me at IanCrossland.net and at IanCrossland on social media.
Thanks a lot.
lydia smith
This has been an incredibly fun conversation with Adrienne.
I've really enjoyed this.
I've enjoyed being around another Amazonian woman, I have to say.
That means a great deal to me.
To feel like feminine?
It's a big deal, right?
You want to feel feminine.
You want to feel pretty and petite.
adrianne curry
We're never those things unless you're around giants.
lydia smith
You guys can follow me at Sour Patch Lids on Twitter as I attempt to gain more followers than Sour Patch Kids.
ian crossland
How's that coming, by the way?
lydia smith
So far, so good.
We're getting closer, but Sour Patch Kids is awesome.
adrianne curry
You have to show skin on Instagram.
No one follows you unless you show skin.
lydia smith
Oh yeah.
adrianne curry
Everyone's like, what's with your followers?
I'm like, I put it all away.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Still there.
It's just not for you.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
We will see all of you over at TimCast.com.
Thanks for hanging out.
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