June 25, 2021 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
02:08:02
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| I'd be willing to make a bet, a gentleman's bet, that if Kim Jong-un did an interview | ||
| with, I don't know, Dave Rubin, he would be allowed to say basically anything. | ||
| He could talk about how he wins all the elections fair and square in North Korea, how everyone loves him, it's all perfect, there's no corruption, gulags don't exist, and there's no suppression of people's rights, none of that. | ||
| YouTube would have no problem with him saying literally whatever he wanted to say. | ||
| I mean, obviously, if he made direct threats against a person, take him down. | ||
| But I bet if he also started talking about how, you know, making claims about war and their missile tests and just lying, YouTube wouldn't care. | ||
| If Donald Trump comes out and says things, you may have seen Dave Rubin interviewed him. | ||
| He just has these huge bleeps and he's like, you're gonna have to go off platform to watch because they'll actually just take down the video. | ||
| It's strange how that works. | ||
| And joining, we've got a couple different guests today. | ||
| Of course, we have China Uncensored joining and we've had you guys before. | ||
| So thanks for coming back. | ||
| But we have a special guest, North Korean defector, who actually just told me that the woke are crazier than North Korea was. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Wow! | |
| So Yeonmi Park is here. | ||
| So we'll learn all about your story and we'll have a general conversation about the region and North Korea. | ||
| Do you want to just briefly introduce yourself? | ||
| Yeah, where do I even look at? | ||
| There's so many people to look at. | ||
| Name, where you're from, and why you left. | ||
| So, my name is Yeonmi Park. | ||
| I was born in North Korea, Northern part. | ||
| I escaped in 2007 into China. | ||
| After two years of slavery in China, unfortunately, I had to cross the Gobi Desert to Mongolia by walking. | ||
| Then in 2009, that's where I flew to South Korea from Mongolia. | ||
| And I came to America in 2016 earlier to go to Columbia University in New York. | ||
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unidentified
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Wow. | |
| Suffice to say, it's really nice in America. | ||
| America's great. | ||
| We have our problems. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Massive problems. | ||
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unidentified
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Wow. | |
| Well, we definitely I definitely want to hear about this. | ||
| And, you know, the comparison between what's happening in America and obviously the hardships you've gone through. | ||
| And of course, we got China Uncensored. | ||
| Shelley, whoever wants to introduce themselves. | ||
| I'm Shelley. | ||
| I'm the humor ninja for China Uncensored. | ||
| And I'm Chris. | ||
| I host China Uncensored and America Uncovered. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| So we have we have a lot to talk about, I guess. | ||
| How about we just talk about North Korea? | ||
| We'll start with that. | ||
| What about it? | ||
| How is it? | ||
| I remember seeing this video before. | ||
| Actually, I'm forgetting my place here. | ||
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| It's Friday. | ||
| We chill on Friday. | ||
| We're going to have some conversation. | ||
| So, let's just get into the conversation. | ||
| So... | ||
| I saw this video that went viral that claimed it reportedly it was made in North Korea talking about homelessness in the United States and it was saying like look how bad it is in America with all these people who don't have homes and North Korea isn't like that. | ||
| So I guess we'll just Starting with this, right? | ||
| How clearly there's an internal view of North Korea and a view that people there have of the United States. | ||
| And then from that, your experience, you know, so how about we just, how about I just start over and say, what was it like growing up in North Korea? | ||
| Why did you want to leave? | ||
| So, North Korea, when I describe it, it's not like even a different country. | ||
| It's like a different planet. | ||
| In this 21st century, they don't have electricity. | ||
| If you look at the satellite photos, it's the darkest place on Earth, literally. | ||
| So I say we have Earth Day every day in North Korea. | ||
| Very good for the environment. | ||
| And we don't even know what the internet is. | ||
| People have no clue, right? | ||
| And they don't have any other information. | ||
| So North Korea literally calendar begins when Kim Il-sung was born. | ||
| Not when Jesus Christ was born. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And they don't even tell us that we are Asians. | ||
| They say you are Kim Il-sung race. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the racism, you know, the highest. | ||
| So they do not let you know what the outside world would look like. | ||
| And I didn't even know Africa, different continents. | ||
| I never seen the map of the world. | ||
| All I knew was North Korea, Americans, but they say American bastards. | ||
| That's like one word. | ||
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unidentified
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Really? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So how did you know that you had it bad or how did you know that you wanted to leave? | ||
| I did not know I had it bad because I remember they were showing us these footages of Americans and showing the homeless people, right? | ||
| And they look at America, there's no birds because everybody ate all the birds. | ||
| I heard that! | ||
| We didn't though. | ||
| Actually, that's not completely untrue. | ||
| What was it? | ||
| The passenger pigeon? | ||
| Do you guys know this? | ||
| They used to go out with nets and just catch pigeons and then eat them and they drove it to extinction. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| So that actually happened, but we do have a lot of birds and there's pigeons everywhere. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like there's pigeons on boats. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah, so what happened? | ||
| And they show they cannot eat the snow because they are so hungry. | ||
| Basically, they are describing what we were having in North Korea. | ||
| And then in schools like that, they say, there are four American bastards. | ||
| You killed two American bastards. | ||
| Then how many American bastards left to care? | ||
| Then as a younger, you said two American bastards. | ||
| So even though when they teach you math, it has to be propaganda. | ||
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unidentified
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Interesting. | |
| Everything has to lead to one thing. | ||
| It's brainwashing us. | ||
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unidentified
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Wow. | |
| So North Korea is like, apparently it's a religion. | ||
| It's a kingdom, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Kim Il-sung's parents were Christians, so he copied the Bible. | ||
| Said, I'm a god, I love you so much, so I'm giving you my son Kim Jong-il. | ||
| His body dies, but no, no, he's like spiritually with us forever. | ||
| Therefore, he knows what you think, how much hair you in your head. | ||
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unidentified
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Wow. | |
| I mean, if the people believe in Bible, I mean, why would you blame people not believing that, right? | ||
| Because they cut out every information. | ||
| So people do not know even what is critical thinking is. | ||
| So how did it come to be that you decided to leave? | ||
| Hunger. | ||
| I was 13 years old. | ||
| I was, luckily by then I was living in this border town. | ||
| And at night time, I could see lights coming from China. | ||
| And I was thinking, maybe if I go where the lights were, I might find something to eat. | ||
| I did an interview with some New Zealanders who rode motorcycles through North Korea into South Korea. | ||
| Did you ever hear of them? | ||
| No. | ||
| So they organized what these individuals wanted to do was travel motorcycle. | ||
| They wanted to ride motorcycles along famous routes. | ||
| So they did like the Silk Road. | ||
| They did the coast of South America. | ||
| And then they wanted to do through North Korea into South Korea, but there's no real roads to do it through. | ||
| So it's very difficult. | ||
| But they were telling me how No. | ||
| When they went through there, they were saying like, this is what they explained to me. | ||
| And so this is hearsay, and I just, well, you know, you can correct me. | ||
| That if there was like a farm, and a cow died, they couldn't eat the cow. | ||
| No. | ||
| That someone would have to come and take the meat and spread it around the country evenly to everybody or | ||
| something like that. | ||
| No. | ||
| What would happen? | ||
| So North Korea, there are three, it's a cat system. | ||
| They began with the communism, right? | ||
| Let's make everyone equal. | ||
| But now they got... ended up with 50 different classes within same people. | ||
| 50? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| They divide three big categories and they divide the subclasses to 50 different classes. | ||
| And you never can go up. | ||
| You can only go down. | ||
| So that's how they prevent people mixing around being married. | ||
| There's no like you marry up. | ||
| If you marry somebody in a different class, you go down with them. | ||
| You don't go up with them. | ||
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unidentified
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Wow. | |
| So in that case, one of the executions that my mom saw was this young man. | ||
| He had TB. | ||
| TB is a huge problem in North Korea, malnutrition. | ||
| Tuberculosis? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he ate a cow in the farm and then they were executing him. | ||
| For eating meat. | ||
| Yeah, so I never ate beef in my life because cows are supposedly working in the farm. | ||
| So you don't have a private property. | ||
| Nobody can own anything. | ||
| We cannot own cows, we cannot own cars, house, nothing we can own, right? | ||
| It's communism. | ||
| So you own nothing, and you must be very happy. | ||
| Yeah, that great reset looks better every day, doesn't it? | ||
| It completely frees you, yeah. | ||
| It's liberation. | ||
| You own nothing, yeah. | ||
| So, if the cow dies, of course the officials gotta come and take it for them. | ||
| And if the normal people eat it, you're gonna be executed. | ||
| What do they do with the cow? | ||
| The official type elites, they divide with themselves. | ||
| So they take it for like the upper caste? | ||
| Yeah, upper caste takes it. | ||
| And they call even the shocking thing is like this upper caste don't even call normal North Koreans are people. | ||
| They call us like trash, rubbish. | ||
| That's how within North Korea different castes treating each other. | ||
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unidentified
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Wow. | |
| Is that because of like uh like historical family things like oh you weren't part of the revolutionary party and that's how you end up in a lower class? | ||
| So this is like what like made me very sad America is like here all about white guilt like your ancestors owned the slaves but therefore you must be guilty and you are privileged. | ||
| In North Korea the same thing because maybe my great great great grandfather was a landowner. | ||
| Or not fighting for the communist side. | ||
| Then they say your blood is tainted forever. | ||
| How do you choose your ancestors? | ||
| Right? | ||
| You can never do that. | ||
| How do you choose your skin color? | ||
| You cannot do that. | ||
| And so they punish you by being associated to that. | ||
| It's called guilt by association. | ||
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unidentified
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Right. | |
| I mean, we're going through this and it's getting worse. | ||
| So I definitely want to talk about the comparison between wetness and stuff, but we'll get there. | ||
| So you were 13 and you were hungry. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you saw China, and you decided to leave. | ||
| So how long did it take? | ||
| What did you do from there? | ||
| So I was initially going to go with my own sister who was 16 years old. | ||
| I was 13. | ||
| And then one day I got really sick. | ||
| So they took me to the hospital. | ||
| And in North Korea we don't have like electricity, x-rays, right? | ||
| Doctor just literally rubs your belly. | ||
| And then nurses using one needle to inject everyone. | ||
| People don't die from cancer in North Korea. | ||
| We die from hunger and infection mostly. | ||
| And then they operated on me that day without any anesthesia. | ||
| And then they said, it's appendix, but it's okay. | ||
| People cut bones in North Korea without any anesthesia. | ||
| It's a common thing. | ||
| So I woke up and they were like, no, you see, you got malnutrition and infection inside you. | ||
| And they closed me back and then I could not go, right? | ||
| I might mostly die from infection. | ||
| So she had to leave. | ||
| So she escaped first with her friend. | ||
| And then, Was there retaliation from the government for your family? | ||
| It was too quick. | ||
| And another thing is that in North Korea, a lot of people die from starvation. | ||
| So they say, oh, I'm going to go to work, and then father leaves home, and he doesn't come back, and he died on the road to work. | ||
| So disappearance is a very common thing for the people. | ||
| Death is always near. | ||
| I mean, you see the death bodies on the streets every day. | ||
| It's like trash, right? | ||
| So I never thought that was it. | ||
| You know, I'm normal. | ||
| I thought it was egg. | ||
| In the morning when you go to train station, there are like so many bodies left died. | ||
| And then they just collect it like woods, right? | ||
| They are very... Bodies get very rigid and just put them together. | ||
| And then they don't even like bother to bury them. | ||
| Just like put on like on the one side. | ||
| And you see like rats eating human flesh. | ||
| You see these children chasing these rats. | ||
| They're eating human eyes first. | ||
| Then somehow these rats have disease. | ||
| So children die. | ||
| Then rats eat us back. | ||
| This cycle between rats and kids eating each other. | ||
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unidentified
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Yikes. | |
| OK, so after the hospital, you're still 13 at this time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then, you know, what's what happened next? | ||
| So I found a note that my sister left me and saying, go find this lady. | ||
| She's going to help you to go to China. | ||
| So that was like right after I got out of the hospital. | ||
| I took my stitch. | ||
| I was like not walking very well still. | ||
| But I went to my mom to find her. | ||
| You took your own stitches out? | ||
| No, they did. | ||
| And then the next day I, with my mom and to the lady, we found her and then she said, Oh, I can help you to go to China, but just don't tell them that you are mom and daughter. | ||
| And then just tell them you're older than like 13, right? | ||
| They say you're maybe 18 or 19 and told my mom you're like 35. | ||
| She was in her forties. | ||
| I had no clue why they were doing that, but which was they were selling us to human traffickers. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So what happened to us? | ||
| So I crossed this frozen river, Yalu River, and there are guards with a machine gun standing there who are going to shoot you if you cross. | ||
| But because the human traffickers bribed the guards, we were able to go. | ||
| And as soon as we arrived in China, the first thing was my mom being raped in front of me. | ||
| But the thing is, I never... So there's no sex education in North Korea, right? | ||
| I don't even know the word sex by then. | ||
| I don't even know what kiss was. | ||
| Like, love doesn't exist. | ||
| We don't know the concept of love in North Korea. | ||
| Now that sounds like the most villainous thing I've ever heard. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, we know love, but it's only love when we have love for the deal leader. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| In the return phone. | ||
| But they do not talk about women's love, so I never heard my mom say, like, I love you. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| I never knew that was a word that people used. | ||
| That's something I didn't know. | ||
| I mean, I still imagined with all of the problems of North Korea, people... You know, I have this vision of this dystopian world where the young men and women run and embrace and they're like, if the guards find us, it'll all be over. | ||
| Human emotion still exists in this place. | ||
| People still understand these concepts. | ||
| But I suppose if the authorities, the powers, suppress knowledge from you, you can't have these concepts. | ||
| So this is the thing, like, in North Korea, there's no concept for compassion. | ||
| We have no concept for human rights, liberty, love, you know, all these things. | ||
| It's like why George Orwell talks about who controls the language, controlling thoughts, right? | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| Double speak. | ||
| They write a new language for you. | ||
| So therefore, you don't, you're not capable of understanding this concept that we know here. | ||
| So now you leave North Korea, you find yourself in China, but you've been sold to traffickers. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So now you have another problem. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| And this, I mean, it sounds like that's... It's hard to quantify, but it sounds worse. | ||
| No, hunger is the worst thing. I mean, if you don't eat, you die. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So in China, I remember like, they told us they don't even bother to force us, right? | ||
| Like, oh, if you don't want to be sold, you can go back to North Korea. | ||
| And... | ||
| Which would mean death. | ||
| Yeah, which means you're gonna, even if you don't get caught, you're gonna die from starvation anyway. | ||
| And one thing that changed in my mind was, for the first time in my life, I was seeing a trash can. | ||
| And I did not know what it was, right? | ||
| What is that one thing where you throw things? | ||
| Like, what is trash? | ||
| Like, things that you don't need. | ||
| Like, what do you mean you have things to throw away? | ||
| That's when I was like, I told my mom I want to stay and they sold my mom for less than $100 in 21st century. | ||
| So you were separated from your mom? | ||
| Yeah, and they sold me for less than $300 and like because I was a virgin and that was something valuable in China. | ||
| So that's how I got separated from everybody and became alone. | ||
| So then how long were you in the situation for? | ||
| Almost two years. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's when I brought my mom to me. | ||
| I made a deal with a human trafficker who bombed me. | ||
| And I was gonna kill myself, but he said, Oh, if you become my mistress, I'm gonna help you to get your family. | ||
| So I did. | ||
| And then he brought my mom back from a farmer that he sold. | ||
| And he brought my sick father from North Korea. | ||
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unidentified
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Wow. | |
| So he then brought your father and your mother into China. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or your mom was in China, but your dad then came. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so what happens next? | ||
| We'll make our way to how you made it to America. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| It's a long journey. | ||
| But my father had this colon cancer he got from the prison camp. | ||
| And he passed away before the Beijing Olympics in 2008. | ||
| I remember the world was celebrating. | ||
| But like North Koreans, You have to be invisible. | ||
| You're always scared to get caught by the authorities. | ||
| So he passed away. | ||
| I buried his ashes around 3 a.m. | ||
| in the middle of the mountain. | ||
| I was 14 years old. | ||
| And then, one year later, we met missionaries. | ||
| from South Korea. | ||
| And they said, oh, if you become Christian, we're going to help you to be free. | ||
| And then I was thinking, like, why do I have to keep believing in something to be saved? | ||
| But, you know, you're so desperate. | ||
| That didn't matter. | ||
| Even if they told me, you got to believe in water, I'm going to believe in the rock, water, whatever it was. | ||
| So I became Christian. | ||
| I proved my faith to them. | ||
| And they told us, we got to walk across the Gobi Desert. | ||
| And then if you're lucky enough not to die from the cold, because it was minus 40 degrees in February in the middle of desert. | ||
| And then if we don't get caught by the guards, then we might survive. | ||
| So I don't know the probability of making that journey. | ||
| And now nobody going that Mongolia route. | ||
| It's too risky. | ||
| Nobody does it. | ||
| So then you went the Mongolia route. | ||
| Where did you end up after that? | ||
| So after Mongolia, we were in the detention center several months. | ||
| In Mongolia? | ||
| They were moving around and then they brought us to South Korea. | ||
| Then they make us go through this insane process of screening. | ||
| Like they check if you're a spy or not. | ||
| Are you actually North Korean or not? | ||
| And then they put us in this training three-month program and tell us that Americans are not bastards. | ||
| South Korea is not colonized by America. | ||
| Like, you know, they tell us what, like, bank. | ||
| Tell me ATM machine, and I literally thought somebody inside the machine give me money, right? | ||
|
unidentified
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Wow. | |
| Never seen such a thing. | ||
| And in North Korea, we don't know what bank is. | ||
| So, just tell us how to take a subway. | ||
| Like, tell us, like, we are like babies. | ||
| We are adults, but babies never seen anything like this. | ||
| When you first got out of North Korea, were you surprised by the kind of foods that they had in China? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was shocking. | ||
| Like, yeah, describe your experience. | ||
| What was like the first thing you had, or what was the most shocking thing about it? | ||
| But the thing is, you think when you are starving like that and go out, you think you're gonna eat a lot. | ||
| But your stomach is not used to this oily, fatty food. | ||
| So I remember I was throwing up constantly. | ||
| And I get, because I've never seen this many cars and buildings in my life. | ||
| North Korea, 90-70% of roads are not paved. | ||
| And only of them are in Pyongyang, too. | ||
| I've never seen a traffic, I've never seen a crosswalk, right? | ||
| But the thing is also, I lost everything by the time I was in China. | ||
| I was a slave, so I couldn't enjoy anything there. | ||
| Every day I was a survivor. | ||
| I remember every day I felt like I lived a thousand years today. | ||
| Every day I go by, and before I go to sleep, I put my shoes on. | ||
| Always have to look for the exit when the police comes, where do I run, where do I jump? | ||
| So ready to run every single day, like you live like that. | ||
| So now you've made it to South Korea, they put you through the screening, they want to make sure you're not a spy. | ||
| But was there a point where they finally opened the doors and said, | ||
| freedom is yours? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What was that like? | ||
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unidentified
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Scary. | |
| It was so painful. | ||
| So scary. | ||
| Painful? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, like, they remember, I remember they said, like, for the first time, like, so introduce yourself. | ||
| And in North Korea, we don't say I. Like, we don't allow to say I. We say, like, we like water. | ||
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unidentified
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Even when it's, because that's how- Like the meme! | |
| It's not a meme, it's actually- No, no, there's a joke where we make fun of communists by replacing the letter I with we. | ||
| Oh yeah, they totally do that. | ||
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unidentified
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Wow. | |
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then, nobody asks you what do you think in North Korea, right? | ||
| So they tell you, your favorite color is red because it's a revolutionary color. | ||
| Your favorite country is North Korea because your favorite food is this, right? | ||
| So now in South Korea they say, oh if you don't know, just tell us your favorite color. | ||
| It's like, what the heck is that? | ||
| Do I suppose know what's my favorite color? | ||
| So thinking for yourself, was something not trained hurting my brain? | ||
| It was so painful, I was literally saying, being free is not easy. | ||
| Like, if I was guaranteed that I'm gonna have frozen, like, enough potato, if I go back to North Korea, I would go back. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Wow, really? | ||
| Yeah, it was hard. | ||
| So, like, if you could have survived, you would have chosen to go back? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Like, with food? | |
| For sure, in the beginning, yeah. | ||
| Several years time, I would have gone back. | ||
| It was very painful to be free. | ||
| But you learned, you figured it out, you adapted? | ||
| Yeah, I adapted. | ||
| I learned what freedom was. | ||
| For me to learn freedom was a responsibility. | ||
| And once I made that connection, it became more manageable. | ||
| But it's scary. | ||
| In North Korea, when you're born, your life is determined before you're born, based on your class, your parents, everything. | ||
| So what do you mean you choose your own major? | ||
| They say, what school do you want to go to? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So what major do you want to do? | ||
| What do you want to do with your life? | ||
| Do I have to know? | ||
| Can somebody tell me what to do? | ||
| I'm very good at being followed. | ||
| It seems like we're seeing this transformation in the United States where young people want exactly that. | ||
| They want to be told what to do. | ||
| They want the government to do it for them. | ||
| A lot of young people, especially the millennial generation, not so young anymore, In my life, I was always told, you have to go to school, you have to go to college, you have to do these things. | ||
| And everyone kept trying to tell me what I was supposed to do. | ||
| And for me, I was, no, I'm not going to do it. | ||
| But a lot of people I know went to college and just did what they were told. | ||
| When they get out of college, they ask, now tell me what to do. | ||
| So they're not used to being out there in the wilderness on their own. | ||
| And of course, this is very, very, very different from, say, North Korea. | ||
| But it's part of this shift, I suppose, where we used to be. | ||
| I mean, Americans are fairly obstinate. | ||
| You know, don't tell me what to do. | ||
| I'll do what I want. | ||
| But we're starting to see that shift now. | ||
| So we're really close to getting into modern politics. | ||
| But so I'll just ask you this. | ||
| So how did you end up, you know, so you're adapting to South Korea. | ||
| At what point did you decide, now I'm going to make an even bigger journey and choose for myself to go to America? | ||
| So I invited to a conference that was in Ireland, you know, Dublin, and it was a free conference, so they wanted to, it's like a youth leaders, like a leadership conference, every country participates. | ||
| So they asked North Korea, they called up North Korea, embassy in London, would you send a delegation from North Korea? | ||
| And then they said, we only can send three, because we have to spy on each other. | ||
| So two is a lot easier to run, but three, like, you're watching, I'm watching, and we're watching everybody, right? | ||
| So it's like, we only can send three. | ||
| And they're like, okay, how about we sponsor two, you sponsor one, and they're like, no. | ||
| So they're like, okay, we're gonna bring these defectors then. | ||
| I guess checker for them. | ||
| Very practical. | ||
| So they invite me for free. | ||
| And then I decided to be a speaker. | ||
| I applied to be a speaker. | ||
| It was very hard to become a speaker. | ||
| And the speech that I gave became very, very viral. | ||
| And I was in the university in South Korea. | ||
| So that led me to write a book. | ||
| And Penguin Randomize was in New York. | ||
| So they brought me to write a book in New York. | ||
| And then I wanted to continue my education. | ||
| And they told me there was a school at Columbia was in New York. | ||
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So... So here you are? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That's how I'm here. | ||
| So the interesting thing, I suppose, now is that you come here, you go to college. | ||
| The current culture war in the United States is, there's a very negative depiction of colleges that they're embracing critical theory, Marxist ideology, and wokeness sounds like there's similar aspects to what you experienced with the ideology being, you know, told what you can and can't like and things like that. | ||
| Not identical, obviously, but well, before the show, you said that the woke was crazier. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's what I said, like, with Fox News, like, North Korea is not even this nuts. | ||
| This is, I mean, where do I even begin? | ||
| But, I mean, it just, entire four years, I was, so in North Korea, by the time I was born, the revolution happened such a long time ago. | ||
| People are not passionate believers of communism, right? | ||
| Collectivism. | ||
| They just, so much fear, if you don't, you get executed. | ||
| So you have to do it. | ||
| And like, one thing, first thing my mom told me as a young girl was, don't even whisper, because the birds and mice could hear you. | ||
| And she was like, your tongue is the most dangerous weapon that you have. | ||
| The things you say is not going to just only kill you, it's going to kill three generations of our family, all together. | ||
| So be careful what you say, right? | ||
| When I go to school in the morning, she would not say, oh, be careful with the strangers, be careful with your mouth. | ||
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That's it. | |
| I'm worried that we're headed in that direction. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| You know, with censorship, with big tech, with people scared to speak out. | ||
| There are a lot of people that say, you know, I was tweeting about anonymity. | ||
| I wasn't really tweeting about anonymity, but I was tweeting about people who don't | ||
| use their names on social media. | ||
| And people said, I'm scared. | ||
| that I'll lose my job. I can't risk my job and my life from speaking out. And if | ||
| people don't speak out, we slowly slip into the nightmare version of whatever | ||
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that is where... North Korea. Yeah, the things you're describing. Yeah, this is how we go there. This is how it | |
| begins. Wow. Yeah, that's what I do. | ||
| Oh, this is how the revolution began. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Because, I mean, at Columbia, this, genuinely, these kids feel like they are so oppressed. | ||
| They get triggered. | ||
| They actually cry, right? | ||
| By the injustice they fear. | ||
| How they are so oppressed and they are the victims. | ||
| And they're not faking it. | ||
| They really, really, truly believe it. | ||
| And the thing is, what makes me so sad is the North Koreans have to be brainwashed because we don't have any information. | ||
| Here, on the tip of your finger, you have entire history. | ||
| What Stalin did, what Mao did. | ||
| You know what this rot has taken us to humanity. | ||
| But these people are so completely brainwashed. | ||
| They think white men are the source of every single evil that we have. | ||
| I suppose I think it's scarier to me that you can warn us and say, hey, this is how the revolution started in North Korea. | ||
| Hey, this is what it's like when you have this communist totalitarian system. | ||
| And no matter how many times you scream it, there are a lot of people in this country that reject the idea that your warnings matter and they actively pursue these situations. | ||
| I suppose they think they'll be like the higher caste, maybe those who live in Pyongyang. | ||
| They have paved roads. | ||
| They have electricity. | ||
| But they'll probably just end up being the farmers in the outskirts who are executed for speaking out improperly. | ||
| Oh yeah, they get so much purges in Pyongyang. | ||
| But the thing is, North Korea designed starvation. | ||
| It's like Hunger Games. | ||
| There are 13 districts and there's a capital. | ||
| On purpose, Kim Jong-un starves us. | ||
| The other week, Kim Jong-un admitted that 11 million North Koreans are severely malnourished. | ||
| He never did that before, but now he doesn't even bother hiding it. | ||
| Yeah, we have like 60% of the population are severely malnourished. | ||
| Why is he doing that? | ||
| Because one missile test that he does, he can feed 25 million North Koreans for an entire year. | ||
| From 2017, he did 40 tests. | ||
| So if we just cut down a few tests, nobody has to die in North Korea. | ||
| Why? | ||
| This is what I can't understand, and maybe you'll have some insight, having obviously been from the country. | ||
| Wouldn't it be better for the party, for Kim Jong-un, for his close circle? | ||
| Wouldn't they be wealthier if North Korea was successful and prosperous, with a well-fed population, with new technologies and electricity? | ||
| Wouldn't he live better and safer? | ||
| No, but then he cannot be a god, right? | ||
| Right now, if you think about it, when you are full, then you will start to think about meaning of life. | ||
| You can think about philosophy, music, art, right? | ||
| But when North Koreans, every day, they don't care what's going on. | ||
| Am I going to be able to find the next meal or not? | ||
| Am I going to make it tonight or not? | ||
| That's all they care. | ||
| So people, entire population is dedicated to surviving. | ||
| So now, Kim Jong-un has no internal challenges. | ||
| It's not like other countries, there's no one single dissident in North Korea. | ||
| Have you ever heard that? | ||
| There's a house arrest. | ||
| No. | ||
| What's his goal? | ||
| What does he want? | ||
| Wasn't he educated in the West? | ||
| In Switzerland? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's a psychopath. | ||
| He knows how humans should be treated. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| He's a psychopath. | ||
| He knows how people are supposed to be treated, but he doesn't, right? | ||
| He goes there. | ||
| He thinks he's a god. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Because a lot of people who have met him when they're younger, they call him like a little janitor, right? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like so everybody's like below him. | ||
| So I don't think he's completely himself brainwashed that he's a god. | ||
| So do you think the U.S. | ||
| is... I mean, the U.S. | ||
| is massive. | ||
| How many people... Do we know the population of North Korea? | ||
| In America? | ||
| Or the population of North Korea. | ||
| Oh, 25 million. | ||
| 25 million. | ||
| So, I mean, the U.S. | ||
| has about 10 times the population. | ||
| It seems far-fetched, I suppose, or maybe people just believe it can't happen here, but do you think that what you're seeing in the U.S. | ||
| will bring us to a situation like North Korea? | ||
| I mean, right now I'm living in Chicago. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, Chicago is a war zone. | ||
| You cannot even walk out during the middle of the day in the downtown where there's police cars right there. | ||
| People commit crime. | ||
| And this, I mean, the system is broke. | ||
| Like, literally during the lootings, right? | ||
| Police standing there, this guy is destroying Nike store on the Magnificent Mile. | ||
| Why don't you arrest them? | ||
| And then my friend said, like, why don't you arrest them? | ||
| And then he's like, I know who to arrest. | ||
| And these guys started shooting at him. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| Police is right there, and he had to run for his life. | ||
| He had a video. | ||
| I'm not joking. | ||
| Like, oh my gosh. | ||
| He started shooting at him, and police is standing there, nothing. | ||
| Are you familiar with the red salute? | ||
| No. | ||
| Have you seen the Black Lives Matter fist they show in the... Yeah. | ||
| Does that symbol appear in North Korea? | ||
| I mean, like, doing this thing? | ||
| Oh yeah, totally. | ||
| That's every time. | ||
| Like, let's kill our American bastards, our enemies. | ||
| Oh, you raise the fist. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So this, it's the red salute. | ||
| It's the communist fist. | ||
| You guys might know this. | ||
| I was reading that when someone is joining the Chinese Communist Party, they perform the red salute, they call it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, you have to, like, raise your fist and pledge your life to the party, essentially. | ||
| Well, July 1st is the 100-year anniversary of the Communist Party in China, and there's this phenomenon of Red Tourism, where people are going around dressing up like old Red Guards and they're doing the salute and they're making pledges to devote their lives to the Party. | ||
| You go take an Instagram photo of you doing the Red Salute and pledging your life to the Party. | ||
| That's the flag of Black Lives Matter. | ||
| It's the symbol Twitter used for Juneteenth. | ||
| And they say it's the Black Power Fist. | ||
| And I'm like, yeah, I guess the Roman salute, which the Nazis used, is the White Power Fist. | ||
| Whatever, it doesn't matter to me. | ||
| These are salutes to the ideology. | ||
| Oppressive. | ||
| And I don't want to be alarmist by saying, oh, it's clearly happening here. | ||
| But you look at the embassies flying these flags, the U.S. | ||
| embassies now using the symbolism. | ||
| You see people marching through the street in defiance of edict from governors when they did the lockdowns, and they're performing the Red Salute. | ||
| They give it a different name, but it's the same symbol, the same flag. | ||
| The people who are organizing Black Lives Matter say they are trained Marxists, or at least some of them do. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| And critical race theory, which is the big battle in the culture war right now, is literally rooted in critical | ||
| theory from the traditional Marxist school of thought. | ||
| And they try and deny it. But every day I feel I do feel optimistic, especially today with, you know, seeing these | ||
| these families, Loudoun County, they're standing up, they're challenging the stuff. | ||
| But I feel like, you know, these people, these families are worried about what their kids are being taught, are putting themselves on the line. | ||
| I'm worried that if too many people are scared, and they remain scared, we inch closer towards a reality where you can no longer speak out anymore. | ||
| I mean, we have the poem, we know what happens when you don't speak out in defense of others. | ||
| So it feels like we're heading in that direction. | ||
| I think there was a viral video of some woman, it was like a Chinese woman who was talking about, I don't know if this was Loudon or someone else, but yeah, she was like a Chinese parent and she was saying, this is just like the Cultural Revolution, which I went through in China. | ||
| And a lot of people kind of were offended by that because there, you know, possibly 20 million people died during the Cultural Revolution. | ||
| So some people are like, oh, well that's, you're being too crazy if you're comparing this to the Cultural Revolution. | ||
| But you know, if the hallmark of the Cultural Revolution was the struggle session, right? | ||
| Which is struggle under Chinese communism is a verb where you struggle someone, you bring them into a room, | ||
| everybody in their workplace, or everybody in your neighborhood. | ||
| Like if it was a very prominent person, they would fill stadiums to denounce these people. | ||
| Like the person would stand there, they'd be made to hold some kind of like torture pose | ||
| so that they're like the airplane or something where they're like uncomfortable. | ||
| They'd have like a placard put on them that says what their crimes are, right? | ||
| And then people would scream at them, yell at them, humiliate them, shame them, throw things at them. | ||
| This is a struggle session. | ||
| And it's like, well, if you think of that as what the Cultural Revolution was doing to people, you know, we don't struggle people in the U.S. | ||
| We cancel people in the U.S. | ||
| And we can cancel them online. | ||
| We can ruin people's lives on Twitter. | ||
| We don't have to bring them into a room to yell at them. | ||
| We can just make them lose their jobs. | ||
| How is it that China and North Korea are so different, I suppose? | ||
| They went through a culture revolution, they had purges, they have a communist party with the red salutes and all that stuff, but China still has massive cities and wealth and technology and food. | ||
| Probably a lot of that is just the ability of China to accept investment from the West. | ||
| China really changed after Mao died. | ||
| Mao, because, you know, his political purges basically, like, killed almost 80 million people, probably. | ||
| So between the Great Leap Forward, the famine, the, you know, Cultural Revolution, like, he was just killing so many people. | ||
| And then the next generation of Chinese leaders were basically like, okay, we're communist, but this is not sustainable. | ||
| So they kind of, and a lot of them were people who were purged by Mao, like Deng Xiaoping. | ||
| So they were like, we're going to open our markets. | ||
| They call it reform and opening up. | ||
| And it wasn't really, the state was still involved. | ||
| Like, the state still owned the means of production, but they were kind of like, we'll give people the ability to at least make money on a small scale. | ||
| You can have businesses. | ||
| You don't have to work for the state. | ||
| Western investment can come in. | ||
| and bring the money. | ||
| I remember reading a story about like after Mao died, like the first people who were like made a contract | ||
| and like for them is like, oh, we might die for this. | ||
| Like we might be killed for this. | ||
| It was like the first test of like, will this reform and opening up actually happen? | ||
| So so what year was that around? | ||
| 1978. | ||
| So that's when they finally started, I guess, modernizing and getting more technology and things to improve. | ||
| And then, because China is such a massive market, there's so many people there to work, right? | ||
| Manufacturing companies wanted to come in. | ||
| Companies... Germany came in in the 70s to start, like, building their... Volkswagen was their barrier. | ||
| Yeah, so, like, building their auto plants there already. | ||
| And also, people see it as a big market where people can buy things now. | ||
| So I think that's the real difference. | ||
| But like, structurally, it's not that different from North Korea. | ||
| You know, North Korean people ideologically and structurally, people like to pretend that China's not communist anymore, because they have, you know, a certain thing, like they have a stock market, but you can't own property in China still. | ||
| Like the state owns all the land still. | ||
| You can buy a lease on the land for 70 years, and that's what you're buying when you buy real estate. | ||
| Or you can buy an apartment in an apartment building, but you cannot actually own land. | ||
| All the land is still owned by the state. | ||
| And there is no real private companies. | ||
| It's maybe state-owned enterprises. | ||
| Otherwise, it's owned by a son or daughter of a party official. | ||
| Or every company, every school, everything in China basically has a Communist Party cell inside of it. | ||
| And there's a party secretary there watching everything. | ||
| So the party's involved. | ||
| There is no free enterprise in China. | ||
| Isn't it every single company has to have a party member? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Specifically whose job is to be a party member for the company or something like that? | ||
| Yeah, the party secretary. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's happening here in the U.S. | ||
| with the diversity, inclusivity, and equity officers in all these companies. | ||
| I mean, it's a job that performs no function other than to be ideologically pure. | ||
| Well, that's the strange thing about all this. | ||
| Like, I've seen some reactions to, like, you're, like, Yomi, talking about woke in America, and people get really upset about that. | ||
| They're like, oh, that's ridiculous. | ||
| Or as Shelly mentioned, the Chinese woman who's like, hey, this is reminding me of the Cultural Revolution. | ||
| And if you only focus on, like, the differences, like, obviously the United States is not North Korea. | ||
| But somehow those societies became the way they were. | ||
| There is an evolution that happens, and I think the problem is people don't realize or understand what Marxism is. | ||
| They don't understand what Communism is. | ||
| Like, what is the problem of trying to create an equal society? | ||
| What's the problem of trying to teach people about slavery? | ||
| That's not bad. | ||
| So why are you saying that this is like the Cultural Revolution? | ||
| Every, I think, every example of the path to the utopia turned out to be a path to hell. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| By design. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Right. | |
| Well, you know what I think happens? | ||
| I know a lot of these activists on the left, and they're very utopian, they're very optimistic, idealistic, and they're like, we can create this beautiful utopia so long as we all just agree on how things work. | ||
| Well, it starts with 10 people, them and their friends. | ||
| And they all say, hey, I work today and I'm going to share with you my bounty. | ||
| And they say, thank you very much. | ||
| I did the dishes for you. | ||
| And then it goes up to 20 people. | ||
| But then one person says, I'm not going to share with you my, you know, my pizza. | ||
| I made this pizza myself. | ||
| There's only enough for me. | ||
| I'm starving. | ||
| I'm hungry. | ||
| And they say, okay, this person's got to go. | ||
| Because no matter what we say, they won't agree with us. | ||
| When it scales up to a certain point and you have, you're now locked to borders of a country, | ||
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Hmm. | |
| and you can't just say, we're going to leave and do our own thing. | ||
| Well then what happens is they say, you know, we have this really great utopia, except for | ||
| those people. | ||
| Well, what do we do with them? | ||
| I guess you got to get rid of them. | ||
| And what ends up happening every single time? | ||
| They get rid of them. | ||
| And there are people who will argue with that, but that basically is what it says in the Communist Manifesto. | ||
| That to create this equal, utopian society, you have to overthrow all pre-existing social conditions. | ||
| Like the family. | ||
| Like religion. | ||
| Well, what happens if somebody doesn't want to give up their religion? | ||
| What if somebody likes their family? | ||
| What are they like private property? | ||
| This is why I wonder about, you know, North Korea. | ||
| You know, you're saying that you don't have these concepts. | ||
| You don't understand love and things like that. | ||
| The color thing was amazing. | ||
| Like that's something that kindergartners have. | ||
| You learn your colors. | ||
| What's your favorite color? | ||
| Yeah, which one just do you and I remember being a little kid and they have a bunch of colors and they're like, which one is your favorite? | ||
| And I'm like, I don't know. | ||
| I said green. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because my birthday's in March and the calendar for March was always green. | ||
| So I just said green. | ||
| Like they just left it upon me as a child who had no real understanding of what it meant to have a favorite color to just say it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I was like, green! | ||
| Clearly green is not my favorite color today. | ||
| You know, a good point about that is, like, a lot of the problem people have with, like, this critical race theory stuff that's going around, especially when it's being taught through, like, K through 12, like, whatever it is as a university subject, you're a college student, you're a fully foreign person. | ||
| But, like, if you're talking in kindergarten, you don't even have a real sense of your own self-identity, and yet you're already being put into these classes. | ||
| See, what's interesting, technically, they aren't teaching critical race theory, because they're arguing, oh, we don't bring up the literature of race and policy. | ||
| What they're doing is they're teaching the core thesis of critical race theory within other subjects. | ||
| So imagine, here's why I described it. | ||
| Imagine if a bunch of parents decided that the new math curriculum would be something like, here's a math problem a child encounters. | ||
| Jeremiah has 10 Bibles. | ||
| In order to worship the Lord properly, he must distribute seven of them to his neighbors. | ||
| If he doesn't, he will burn in hell. | ||
| How many Bibles does he have after he distributes the ones the Lord requires? | ||
| Like if that was an actual math problem in schools, parents would be like, yo, like what? | ||
| They're not teaching the Bible. | ||
| They're not teaching Christianity. | ||
| No, what are you talking about? | ||
| We've never mentioned scripture. | ||
| Nobody's reading from the Bible. | ||
| You're crazy. | ||
| And then you look at the math problem, you're like, this is just this whole thing. | ||
| So they're finding subversive ways to indoctrinate kids, but it's also incorporated in their policies. | ||
| And the scary thing is it's become inherent now, where you have these schools that don't even recognize they exist in this alternate reality. | ||
| It's normal to them. | ||
| That's that's where that's where it starts. | ||
| Like you mentioned, these countries all ended up these ways. | ||
| That's what I find truly interesting. | ||
| So obviously, a lot of people know that I'm part Korean. | ||
| And because you know, Tim Pool is mixed race like a meme. | ||
| I make I say it all the time because we're talking about, you know, race policy and identity, identitarianism. | ||
| But actually, my great grandfather is from a city in the north. | ||
| At the time, there was no North. | ||
| So for my family leaving Korea, coming to the United States and all that stuff, these concepts of a North and a South and this conflict didn't exist at the time. | ||
| Something happened where all of a sudden, the city where my great-grandfather is, is worlds apart from the city where my great-grandmother was | ||
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from. | |
| And I think my great-grandmother was from Seoul, and my great-grandfather was from Haeju? | ||
| Haeju? | ||
| Yes, yeah. | ||
| Now, I mean, at the time, they were probably identical in many ways. | ||
| Like, same culture, same language, same history. | ||
| Now they're just absolutely different. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I'd imagine the people in the North, like you mentioned, they think they have this god, they have this new religion. | ||
| The history has changed. | ||
| Something happened to make it that way. | ||
| And now that impacts, you know, even me and other people whose history sort of stops at these conflicts. | ||
| The historical revisionism that's happening in the United States is what scares me, and that's why I kind of, you know, related to these circumstances. | ||
| I mean, North Korea also had like a speed run at this in a certain way because it was the Soviet Union after World War II that got North Korea, right? | ||
| Like the treaty was, we split it along the 38th parallel that the Western democracies, they get South Korea, Russia, the Soviet Union gets North Korea. | ||
| So you guys kind of had like... | ||
| like a crash course in this in a certain sense where like you know now suddenly Kim Jong uh well Kim Il-sung is put in and he's like taking soviet stuff and then using it to build his own identity cult and all this stuff so it's kind of it's kind of crazy to look at North Korea too because this is like this is like the you know like the super powered version of what happens I mean, the thing is, like, what shocks me about North Korea, they began, like, communism, right? | ||
| Promising, oh, I'm gonna give you free healthcare, free education, free housing, free everything. | ||
| I mean, nothing is free, but they say everything is free. | ||
| So they did that in the beginning from the Soviets, they got subsidies. | ||
| So they were giving rations to the people for free. | ||
| In the 90s, they stopped, the Soviet Union collapsed. | ||
| What did they do? | ||
| They changed their ideology to self-reliance. | ||
| So now, they don't care about you, you take care of yourself. | ||
| By the way, you have no freedom to trade, do nothing. | ||
| So how do you survive? | ||
| So that's why like 30 million people died in the 90s in the northern parts. | ||
| If you secretly grew a tomato plant or something in your base and like you hid it in your house, would they would they execute you if they found it? | ||
| No, I mean if you hide it really well. | ||
| Yeah, like let's let's say you're starving. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So you secretly grow some plants. | ||
| It's okay. | ||
| It's okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're you're allowed to grow your own food or? | ||
| No, we cannot own the land. | ||
| It's collectivism. | ||
| We work collectively in the farm, and then the government takes 80%, and 20% is divided between the government officials, and then they just don't give you anything. | ||
| It's like the stupidest thing I've ever heard, to be honest. | ||
| It's an inefficient way to run a system to even benefit themselves. | ||
| I think this is why China was like, hey, let's take investment. | ||
| We want to be rich and successful. | ||
| Now there's more Chinese millionaires than there are American millionaires. | ||
| They've made themselves wealthy and powerful. | ||
| Why doesn't North Korea do it? | ||
| He's just too scared. | ||
| He's very scared and all he needs is nukes, right? | ||
| So he doesn't want to change anything. | ||
| He's comfortable. | ||
| He's been so good at this. | ||
| Why would he change anything, right? | ||
| They've been so successful at this for almost 80 years they've been doing this. | ||
| And I think even Kim Jong-un is a victim of the same brainwashing at this point. | ||
| Certainly he's in charge and he understands it more and knows more than regular people. | ||
| He was educated in the West, but he was also very much indoctrinated. | ||
| You have to run this country, you have to be in charge. | ||
| And so his worldview is now a product of their own manipulation. | ||
| He was Marxist. | ||
| He was Leninist. | ||
| I'm sure Kim Il-sung had an understanding of global affairs and world politics. | ||
| He probably understood, you know... | ||
| He was Marxist. | ||
| He was Leninist. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm sure he... but he knew about Russia. | ||
| He knew about the world. | ||
| And then he told everyone he was God? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then, you know, his son was in the 70s trying to be nice to his father because he | ||
| had a lot of concubines and sons, right? | ||
| So there's a competition, the Game of Thrones. | ||
| Remember King Kong killed his half-brother in Malaysia? | ||
| Literally they are killing each other to get there. | ||
| So he was saying in the 70s, Oh, I want to get this throne from my father. | ||
| So now I'm going to make him God. | ||
| So he did all propaganda, making him Kim can move the mountains, knows what you think, like everything began there. | ||
| So, so what are the circumstances keeping North Korea as it is? | ||
| Certainly there's external pressure for them to change their ways, open up, free their people. | ||
| But I, my understanding is like China is very defensive. | ||
| China likes North Korea as sort of like this problem that the rest of the world needs to come to China to work on. | ||
| They're a crazy guy with nukes and only we can negotiate. | ||
| Like if you have to talk to us and it actually ties a lot into sort of China's internal political struggles as well, because certain factions within China were the ones working with the Kim family. | ||
| Other factions did not. | ||
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So yeah, it's it's it's leverage for them. | |
| Yeah, it's leverage. | ||
| And it's definitely makes China look better. | ||
| Well, like hearing a story where you say that, that you felt being a slave in China was better because at least you had food. | ||
| But the thing is, what shocks me is in America. | ||
| Like, these people talking about slavery that happened hundreds of years ago. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is happening right now when you're sitting down. | ||
| Do you know during the COVID time, if you go to Baidu, the Chinese Google, you get North Korean girls for $900. | ||
| You order them in. | ||
| And this is happening, and nobody in mainstream, like Michelle Obama has no problem standing up for girls that are captured by ISIS or Boko Haram. | ||
| Where is any public figure in the mainstream standing up for this curse? | ||
| Right now there are 300,000 North Korean refugees in China hiding, and most of them are women, and most of them are trafficked. | ||
| So we have actual modern-day slavery existing. | ||
| China has a huge human trafficking problem. | ||
| Because the one child policy screwed up the population. | ||
| 30 million men cannot find wives. | ||
| So where are these women being bought by these 30 million men who cannot afford wives in China? | ||
| Are there organizations that buy the women to then free them and get them to other countries? | ||
| We do that. | ||
| I work with a lot of nonprofits. | ||
| We do rescue work, but it's become so hard during the COVID. | ||
| So, but the thing is, it's, you know, now in America right now, there's only over 200 North Koreans made it to America for during the last 75 years. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| For you to come from South Korea to the United States, was it difficult? | ||
| I came as a South Korean. | ||
| Oh, so you just walked right in. | ||
| Yeah, but then I had to get a visa. | ||
| I came legally. | ||
| As a South Korean, you can just fly here without notice and get a visa on entry, right? | ||
| You get an electronic visa, but it's hard to get a working permit. | ||
| You can come as a tourist, but it's very hard to come as an immigrant from South Korea. | ||
| Yeah, it's actually fairly difficult, I think, for anybody to get a work visa in the United States. | ||
| I say relatively difficult, but I'm sure there's a lot of countries where it's a lot harder, especially with, like, Middle Eastern refugees into Europe. | ||
| I've seen a lot of those stories. | ||
| Yeah, so... Japan is pretty closed off. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You know, I've heard people say that Japan is an ethnostate, and I've heard other people say it's not. | ||
| But I'm curious, you know, what you guys think about that. | ||
| I'm not an expert on Japan. | ||
| Outside of anime. | ||
| Well, so... I guess the difficult thing is, I'd like to try and predict the future. | ||
| You know, I'd like to know, can we take... We've made some of these statements, like, oh, we can see what happened in North Korea, we can see how people behave, how they're scared to speak. | ||
| And then, we've said, somehow North Korea became this way. | ||
| But is it really like the U.S. | ||
| could track in a similar direction? | ||
| Or is it just fanciful thinking that the U.S. | ||
| would ever become like this? | ||
| You know, is the U.S. | ||
| gonna break out of this and just become sane again and defeat the cultural Marxist ideology? | ||
| I'm fairly optimistic, to be completely honest. | ||
| I mean, I see these parents waking up. | ||
| I see a lot of reason to be optimistic in terms of what's happening politically with people being snapped to attention because of what's happening. | ||
| And I have to imagine that there's elements within the U.S. | ||
| government, they know everything we're saying and they're worried about these things too. | ||
| Or is the ideological split so severe that these, you know, cultural Marxists and critical race theorists control too much? | ||
| Well, I think with everything happening in schools, that was definitely overreach. | ||
| Like once you start targeting people's kids, that's when people really freak out. | ||
| That brings it to home. | ||
| So I think this is like all the debate about critical race theory. | ||
| I think it's really a good window of opportunity to educate people about what Marxist ideology | ||
| is, how it functions, how it takes an issue and inverts it and then flips it into something | ||
| else. | ||
| Like, for example, race. | ||
| You know, decades ago, we as a country made a decision that, you know, judging people | ||
| by the color of their skin is wrong. | ||
| That's racist. | ||
| but now it's flipped. | ||
| So it's like, oh no, no, you should develop racial consciousness. | ||
| I think is the term they use. | ||
| You need to be able to look at people by race so you can properly sort them out based on their privilege and their oppressor status. | ||
| That's creepy. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It's kind of the opposite of Taoism, actually. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm curious about war. | ||
| We recently saw China send the most warships they've ever, warplanes, into the Taiwanese defense zone. | ||
| And so there's this, obviously, one thing we mention often is Thucydides Trap. | ||
| There's a very real fear that war will be happening soon. | ||
| I'm wondering, before we start talking about China though, The stuff that you see with North Korea with the firing of the nuclear missiles. | ||
| Do you feel there's anything to that? | ||
| Or is it just Kim Jong Un says, look at me, I'm a nuisance, give me free stuff. | ||
| And there's not actually going to be any real conflict out of the nuclear weapons in North Korea. | ||
| I think Kim Jong-un is very rational enough not to start a war with any country. | ||
| He knows when he does that, he's going to be done, right? | ||
| America's not going to get him. | ||
| So I don't think that can ever happen, but I think Kim Jong-un's goal is waiting for the West to be weakened. | ||
| Right? | ||
| For the West to be destabilized right now. | ||
| There's so much internal problem. | ||
| America is so busy with themselves right now. | ||
| Not able to solve any problems like globally. | ||
| So it's a good thing for Kim Jong-un, right? | ||
| He wants to beat America. | ||
| And internally he just keep building capability with missiles. | ||
| So someday his dream might get that he might bomb America entirely. | ||
| I mean, his bombs can reach Hawaii, D.C. | ||
| and Manila, but bombing a few cities, he's not gonna win the war, right? | ||
| He can attack, damage the U.S.A., but not gonna win. | ||
| But when America's so busy, he just keep doing this, his thing. | ||
| If you were to try and fire a nuke or something, would China... China would stop them, right? | ||
| China would be probably forced in a position where it would have to at least offer some kind of lip service about, like, that's bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because they don't want the rest of the world to turn against China. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because, like, if you are a country backing North Korea nuking some other country, that's bad PR. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Um, practically speaking, what they would do. | ||
| China is worried about North Korea becoming a little too hot to handle, too unwilling to listen to Beijing leadership. | ||
| As I recall, Kim Jong-un didn't even meet with Xi Jinping for many years until... Until, yeah, Trump was about to meet with him. | ||
| And then suddenly, like, the two sides met. | ||
| But it wasn't Kim Jong-un didn't want it. | ||
| Xi Jinping didn't invite him. | ||
| Do you know that Deng Xiaotong, the uncle, he was a Chinese guy. | ||
| He was funded by China a lot, the uncle who got executed, right? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| So when Kim Jong-un killed his uncle, China got so upset because they just did it independently. | ||
| So Xi Jinping didn't invite him, didn't, like, accept him as a legitimate North Korean leader. | ||
| But when he wants to meet Trump, of course, China had, like, jumped before. | ||
| Didn't? | ||
| Wasn't the brother that Kim Jong-un poisoned also, like, hiding in China? | ||
| He was kind of being supported by China, too. | ||
| China has been trying to push, like, their own interest in North Korea by pushing people who would make the kind of market reforms they want. | ||
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And supposedly Kim Jong-nam... Kim Jong-nam was open. | |
| He was open to that idea. | ||
| And Jang Song-thaek, too. | ||
| So China always recommended North Korea to take our path. | ||
| Your comments are probably going to last forever. | ||
| And it's like, open up a little so people don't die from starvation, right? | ||
| Like, what's the point of all this? | ||
| And North Korea's like, no, no, no, we're fine. | ||
| So Kim Jong-un get rid of any reformers in the interim. | ||
| So Jang Sung-tae was... | ||
| China wants North Korea to do better and adopt some more of their kind of policies? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| They toured Kim Jong-il the second he was alive. | ||
| Showed him around. | ||
| Look at us, what we have done. | ||
| Look at Shanghai, Beijing. | ||
| Two weeks tour. | ||
| Showing him, like, take the reform path. | ||
| And then Kim Jong-il goes back, nope, nope, we're not turning it down. | ||
| This might be a dark question, but why hasn't anybody just removed that lineage and just gotten rid of that family? | ||
| I mean, certainly there are people you mentioned they're hiding out in China. | ||
| Even China's got interest in this. | ||
| Does no one want to? | ||
| I mean, look, people have tried to remove Castro, Saddam Hussein. | ||
| The issue is China does not want a wave of North Korean refugees flooding into China. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| They don't want to be responsible for North Korea because it's so terrible right now. | ||
| Like, you have to rebuild the society from scratch, right? | ||
| And they can't let the U.S. | ||
| take it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because if they don't, the U.S. | ||
| walks right in. | ||
| And they don't want the U.S. | ||
| on their border. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It's their buffer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So complicated and so horrifying because there are people here who need food and resources and just, more importantly, opportunity. | ||
| I mean, it sounds like if you got rid of the authoritarianism, these people would just thrive. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do you know, like, North Koreans, as a nation, one of the highest IQs in the world. | ||
| So no wonder why they build these nukes. | ||
| And North Korea is the only country that can bully Biden, right? | ||
| Biden's been trying to reach out to Kim Jong-un. | ||
| Anytime, anywhere, without putting any concessions, I want to meet you and talk to you. | ||
| Kim Jong-un has not returned his call since February. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| But Trump? | ||
| Yeah, Trump was tough guy. | ||
| Kim Jong-un knew that he could not bully Trump. | ||
| So whatever, he was sending the love letters to Trump, right? | ||
| Please him. | ||
| And Biden, like Kim Jong-un knows, like, I can bully you whatever way I want to. | ||
| Well, I love it when Kim Jong-un called Trump a dotard. | ||
| Daughter? | ||
| Daughtered. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Old, fumbling. | ||
| Certainly that worked for Joe Biden. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But then Trump was like, I would never call him short and fat. | ||
| Wow, that was our president. | ||
| So, but how do you feel about, you know, I'll tell you this. | ||
| There are a lot of people who are in this country, don't like Trump. | ||
| And like Blackwork, they were all extremely critical of Trump for meeting with Kim Jong-un and cross and just meeting him in general. | ||
| I looked at that when Trump crossed the DMZ into North Korea with no security. | ||
| I thought that was tremendous. | ||
| But what's your thought? | ||
| Back then, I was more like seeing it black and white. | ||
| Like, you don't just sit down with a modern-day Hitler and then treating him like a modern, like actual leader of the country. | ||
| Like, North Korean people didn't choose Kim Jong-un to represent us. | ||
| He was a dictator, right? | ||
| So the fact that Trump was going there without actually any concessions from, like, Kim Jong-un was already lost. | ||
| He didn't get anything back. | ||
| Instead, Kim Jong-un did a huge promotion at home. | ||
| Showing like, look at me, now even America is backing me. | ||
| So if there's any internal coup that would happen, they don't want to go after a guy that the U.S. | ||
| is accepting as a legitimate leader. | ||
| So internally, it was so bad. | ||
| However, now, like in a way, Biden is worse, right? | ||
| I mean, Trump at least brought a highlight to the issue and tried to solve something about it. | ||
| Like Biden recently, they reviewed their policy towards North Korea. | ||
| Which is going to be exactly what Obama did. | ||
| Strategic patience, which is strategically you do nothing, just waiting, and Kim Jong-un take the first positive move. | ||
| So if they ignore North Korea like this, four, five years, eight years later, we don't know what North Korea end up with nuclear capability. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I certainly see what you're saying with Trump. | ||
| I was hopeful that Trump, without security, crossed into North Korea and they could have just snatched him up. | ||
| Obviously, they wouldn't because you can't take the American president, but it felt like at least this was some normalization. | ||
| Some. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I certainly see what you're saying. | ||
| I was hoping that it was a first step towards trust and maybe some kind of normalized trade, maybe some kind of encouragement towards, you know, look, there's opportunity if you change some of your ways. | ||
| But, you know, based on what you've all been saying about how China wants the reform and they don't, it really does feel like the Kim-Ill family is a bunch of despotic... what's the... megalomaniacs. | ||
| who think they're God. | ||
| Yeah, they're so paranoid. | ||
| And also the thing is, if we are negotiating with North Korea for the first time, it makes sense to honor them, make them feel comfortable and trusted. | ||
| This guy has been playing the same playbook for like, last 70 something years. | ||
| They know what they know, or what they want to. | ||
| So in a way, it just doesn't work anymore. | ||
| Like talking to North Korea and then just try to make them warm and come out. | ||
| It's not gonna work. | ||
| It's gonna take way more than to change North Korea. | ||
| When you lived there, did you ever encounter South Korean propaganda? | ||
| In North Korea? | ||
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| I mean, every single day? | ||
| Like, I did not know South Korea was an independent country. | ||
| They told us that U.S. | ||
| is colonizing them, it's a modern-day colonization, and how these children get raped by U.S. | ||
| soldiers, and entirely, like, cartoons filled with the most corrupt, and then how entire humanity want to come to North Korea. | ||
| Yeah, entire humanity. | ||
| There's a song in North Korea called Nothing to Envy. | ||
| It's a song because we have nothing to envy. | ||
| We live in a socialist paradise. | ||
| We literally have nothing. | ||
| You know, when I interviewed these New Zealanders who rode their motorcycles through North Korea, the one thing they did say was like, beautiful country. | ||
| Untainted. | ||
| Nature. | ||
| No pollution. | ||
| There's no trash. | ||
| No trash. | ||
| No, but that's not true. | ||
| You think so, right? | ||
| You think so. | ||
| Look at just why North Korea every year they have flooding. | ||
| Massive flooding. | ||
| So we don't have as much electricity. | ||
| North Korea is very cold. | ||
| We are like 80% mountains, like country. | ||
| So people need to get something to burn, cook food. | ||
| We live in like 16th century time. | ||
| We go to river to bath. | ||
| I never seen a shower, like never seen a thing. | ||
| We go a few times a year, we go to river, we take a bath and that's it. | ||
| So we have to get chop the woods to start a fire. | ||
| So people go into the mountains and cut down entire trees. | ||
| And the big trees, China took it. | ||
| China took it. | ||
| And then the coal mines. | ||
| China owns North Korea now. | ||
| They lent these mines, coal mines, gold mines, for 100 years at least. | ||
| 200 years at least. | ||
| So they're digging, digging, digging, pollution. | ||
| And the nuclear, the debris. | ||
| They're doing so much tests. | ||
| Now people in North Korea got deformed in their DNA changes. | ||
| So, so much flooding. | ||
| I mean, I'm sure they've gone to the part where there are trees there. | ||
| But when normal people live, we don't get the trees. | ||
| We don't get nature. | ||
| I'm so shocked when I was here today, seeing all these trees, like so many trees. | ||
| Oh, you're in Chicago now too? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I think a lot of people might not know this. | ||
| I didn't even... I grew up in Chicago. | ||
| When you fly in, Chicago is like a forest. | ||
| Because every city street has just a tree in front of every house. | ||
| You go to New York and it's, there's trees, but it's a big concrete block. | ||
| And L.A. | ||
| is the same way. | ||
| Yeah, trees everywhere. | ||
| That really is something truly amazing about Chicago that I should definitely give it credit for. | ||
| Been to a lot of cities, but to have every city street with trees lining every house, it really is fantastic. | ||
| So I'm pretty sure the people that I interviewed, they said they chose their route, but I'm sure it was just that it was an acceptable route in the first place. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Because if they went through bad areas, it was interesting. | ||
| He said, they told me that a lot of people criticize North Korea for their Potemkin villages. | ||
| When someone comes in to interview, they bring them and they show them this wonderful supermarket and they say, look at all the glorious bounty. | ||
| And we in the U.S., we say they're putting on a show to make it seem like they're successful. | ||
| Soviet Union did that. | ||
| Worked on a lot of US officials. | ||
| was, no, no, they're just dressing up. | ||
| Like when you have your friends over, you wear your Sunday's best. | ||
| You're not trying to lie to them, you're trying to be presentable, right? | ||
| That was their perspective on it. | ||
| My perspective is, they're trying to trick you into thinking that people aren't suffering | ||
| and dying in the streets. | ||
| Soviet Union did that. | ||
| Worked on a lot of US officials, Bernie Sanders. | ||
| Who was it who said that they came to the US and said, if my people saw what, you know, we've done to them, because he was like at a supermarket. | ||
| It was a Cuban guy. | ||
| Was it a Cuban guy? | ||
| Yeah, it was a Cuban guy who said, you know, he was at an Aldi. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So it's not even like, he's not like at a Whole Foods. | ||
| He's at an Aldi. | ||
| Isn't that not an American chain? | ||
| It's actually East German. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So like he was, yeah, he was just saying like, he was standing in an Aldi and then he got too depressed and had to leave because he was like, they've destroyed our people. | ||
| Like they've destroyed our country. | ||
| Like, yeah. | ||
| I thought there was a Russian guy who said that, you know, if my people saw, you know, the variety or whatever of the Americans, there would be a revolution overnight or something like that. | ||
| That sounds familiar. | ||
| I can't place it, though. | ||
| I do think there's something silly about having like 80 different kinds of peanut butter. | ||
| But I suppose I'll take 80 kinds of peanut butter over no peanut butter at all. | ||
| Hey, the market will decide. | ||
| All one kind of peanut butter. | ||
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| Kim Jong-un brand peanut butter, different flavors. | ||
| Here's one with a red label, here's one with a yellow label. | ||
| Yeah, the joke is that in communist countries you wait in a bread line, in capitalist countries the bread line forms for you, or something like that. | ||
| The bread is in a line waiting for you, all just on the shelf and everything like that. | ||
| I mean, we have our problems though. | ||
| I think that If you go back to the early 1900s, the rise of the communist and the fascist factions in Europe, and, you know, more so towards World War II, the communists get defeated in Europe by the fascists, the fascists get defeated by the Allies and the Soviet Union, but then communism begins to flourish and thus we get the Cold War for several decades. | ||
| I think one of the challenges we face is that individual liberty has weaknesses. | ||
| We tolerate these authoritarians, these communists, and they exploit. | ||
| And so, sure, we had a Cold War. | ||
| We won the Cold War, but I don't think the Cold War is actually over. | ||
| Sure, the Soviet Union collapsed because their ideology doesn't work. | ||
| Their plans make no sense. | ||
| They have to kill people to support it. | ||
| But so long as there are zealots who are willing to lie, cheat, and steal to get what they want, We potentially walk the path towards that corruption as | ||
| well. | ||
| Certainly, countries became the way they were. | ||
| It's gonna require everybody to be constantly paying attention and | ||
| fighting back, otherwise we end up like those countries. | ||
| Well, ideological subversion is a huge part of communist tactics. | ||
| Chinese Communist Party does it all the time. | ||
| They learn from the Soviet Union and enhance things. | ||
| There's hardly a US official who hasn't at some point been offered a trip to China. | ||
| Or Chinese money gets into all kinds of places. | ||
| And that's just, we're talking about the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| The reality is that there are many different factions to this broad concept | ||
| of communism. | ||
| It's really a postmodern thing because it defies being pinned down to a definition. | ||
| I've spoken to people who are declared communists who are like, oh, I hate what's happening in China. | ||
| That's awful. | ||
| They don't see the connections between themselves. | ||
| I do think there's some kind of blindness in the U.S. | ||
| about ideology on the left, where there's this kind of idea that there's no such thing as left authoritarianism, where we just pretend not to see it, or the official media or whatever pretend that there's no such thing as left authoritarianism. | ||
| You know, it's it's like a weird thing. | ||
| And it it bleeds into like it happened with Antifa, where people were like, oh, it's it's not it's an idea, not an organization. | ||
| But then it also bleeds into like the China stuff where you have people who are just like, well, no, China is not authoritarian. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, importantly, like you had the Trump administration, particularly Pompeo, bringing up ideology. | ||
| This is an ideological struggle with China. | ||
| That is something that the Biden administration is incapable of discussing. | ||
| It can be competing powers, but the ideology which is critical to this is completely off the table. | ||
| I think one of the most clever things pulled off by the communist or Marxist or authoritarian left is that they | ||
| call themselves libertarian left. | ||
| And we see this expressed in memes. | ||
| So there's the political compass memes, which I'm sure you've seen the political compass. | ||
| The quadrant thing. | ||
| Yeah, are you familiar with the political compass? | ||
| It's a square and there's four quadrants, and then you have the top left, which is authoritarian, the top right, which is authoritarian, and the bottom, you know, you have left and right that are libertarian. | ||
| So the libertarian right's easily definable. | ||
| They're free market capitalists. | ||
| You know, they're like, you can sell whatever you want to whoever you want, as long as you agree to it. | ||
| Buyer beware. | ||
| Uh, caveat emptor. | ||
| I think that's how you say it. | ||
| And then you have the authoritarian right, which tends to be ideologically driven, command economies, ultra-traditionalist. | ||
| And then you have the authoritarian left, which is the tankies, the Soviet Union, etc. | ||
| But whenever you look at the memes about the libertarian left, it's Antifa, and it's wokeness. | ||
| Two authoritarian ideologies. | ||
| So these people, I think they do it on purpose, it's very clever. | ||
| You tell someone that if you want to be the freedom-loving libertarian leftist, the good guys, you have to beat people, you have to start fires, and believe in our cult ideology. | ||
| In reality, if you look at the core of a libertarian system with cooperative economics, it is small tribes, it is small farms working together. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| You don't force anyone to do anything. | ||
| You don't beat them into submission. | ||
| You don't demand they adhere to an ideology. | ||
| But if our jokes, if our whole perspective in society is that freedom-loving leftists are the people burning down buildings and cancelling people and threatening them and destroying their lives, there literally is no libertarian left in the United States. | ||
| So then what's the opposition? | ||
| What opposes the authoritarians? | ||
| Not the right. | ||
| The right are the bad guys. | ||
| Well, that leaves you with only the right, because there is no opposition from the left. | ||
| They have abandoned their principles. | ||
| They are trying to fit in. | ||
| They're trying to look good. | ||
| Wokeness is nothing if not the appearance of looking compassionate and friendly. | ||
| It's nothing if not the appearance of saying, oh, we'll save you. | ||
| We'll bring in all these immigrants and do all this stuff. | ||
| It sounds great. | ||
| So there's no pushback on it. | ||
| And there absolutely should be. | ||
| It's put us in this position. | ||
| Yeah, it's the tricky thing about Marxism or communism, whatever you want to call this ideology, is that it really takes advantage of the fact that I think most people are good people. | ||
| They want to help people. | ||
| They would like to see the world be a more equal, better place. | ||
| But Marx presented this extremely simplistic view of all of human society. | ||
| There are only the oppressors and the oppressed. | ||
| Anything you do as an individual Doesn't matter. | ||
| You are either in the oppressed or the oppressors. | ||
| To create a better world, obviously, you need to get rid of the oppressors. | ||
| They're not going to want to be kicked out. | ||
| Therefore, you have to kick them out. | ||
| You know, we need a critical conservative theory. | ||
| So all the conservatives, here you go. | ||
| Critical theory was, you know, the Marxists rooted it very much in the Marx ideology of oppressors and oppressed based on class. | ||
| I was actually just reading some good old critical race theory to better understand what they're talking about and Kimberly Crenshaw wrote that they coined the phrase critical race theory on purpose so that people understood it came from the Marxist framework of critical theory, but Critical theory and Marxism didn't understand American racism. | ||
| So they needed to take his philosophy of oppressed and oppressor and apply it to racial politics in the United States. | ||
| So we'll do the same thing now and we'll create critical political theory. | ||
| And it states that if you are a liberal, you're an oppressor. | ||
| And if you're a conservative, you're oppressed. | ||
| There you go, guys. | ||
| That one's free. | ||
| Feel free to claim that you're now victims. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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There you go. | |
| The problem is it won't work. | ||
| Because the whole point of Marxism is to create struggle. | ||
| And it divides people into different groups, makes them struggle, and those groups divide up into more groups, and they fight and fight, et cetera, et cetera, intersectionality. | ||
| I don't think it can be solved by people fighting each other. | ||
| People need to develop compassion. | ||
| Because, you know, any time you're arguing with people on the internet is a nightmare and no one should ever do it. | ||
| I speak from experience. | ||
| Pretty much. | ||
| But when you're actually face-to-face with someone, it comes down to basically like, you know, if somebody feels like they're being attacked, even if you are completely wrong, if you feel like you're being attacked, you will either respond in three ways. | ||
| Fight, flight, or paralysis. | ||
| And so if somebody feels like they're being attacked, that's what's going to happen. | ||
| You have to make connections with people based on, like, our common humanity, because that is the antithesis of Marxism, that we have a shared common humanity. | ||
| There are objective truths. | ||
| It seems like the philosophy of Marxism is just a tactic for destroying a system to steal power. | ||
| You know, I made the point the other day, like a lot of people say, oh, communism has never worked. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| Communism has worked Everywhere it's been tried because the point of communism is to create death and destruction. | ||
| It's designed to destroy a society. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They just pretend it's about helping you and making the world a better place, but it's actually about how can I empower myself? | ||
| And I experienced this with Occupy Wall Street. | ||
| The activists literally said, you know, they would say we want to flip the pyramid over. | ||
| Now, to the untrained, flipping the pyramid over implies the working class will now be on top, and the capital will be forced to be on the bottom. | ||
| What it really means, and this is what I asked, if you flip a pyramid over, the bricks crumble into a disheveled pile, with only one of those bricks from the working class sitting on top, and that'll be us. | ||
| And where will the gold live? | ||
| The gold? | ||
| In the bellies of the people they possess? | ||
| So this social justice stuff is very much a Trojan horse, which is probably something that you noticed, Yanmi, when you were at Columbia, was that this guise of compassion and kindness. | ||
| How did they couch it to you when you were first learning about social justice at your school? | ||
| Did they present it as something highly positive, or did they force you to do this stuff? | ||
| It wasn't just, so I remember at the orientation, right? | ||
| And then she was like, instructor came, so who likes like Jane Austen? | ||
| I was like, yeah, me, right? | ||
| Right, yeah. | ||
| And because I didn't have love, I love reading about romance books. | ||
| And then like, do you know this world colonial mindset bigots, racists. | ||
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Wow. | |
| So even when you think you don't know, you're just reading a classic, you're being subconsciously brainwashed by this white supremacist. | ||
| So this is how you gotta be aware, how you can get pretty much every day. | ||
| I'm like, wow. | ||
| Did you speak up and say, hey, actually, I'm from North Korea and... I did, I did. | ||
| So before the class, in the class, right, there's like a Western Civilization, Music and Art in Columbia, you have to take in a core curriculum. | ||
| And then professor's like, who has a problem studying Western Civilization, like the music? | ||
| And everybody like raising their hands. | ||
| And they said, because of this white man killed all minority and silenced women, we have to now study this Beethoven and Mozart's Bigots. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| It's oppressed or oppressor. | ||
| Like, this is musicians. | ||
| So, like that critical race theory. | ||
| Every single thing, they find a connection. | ||
| Somehow. | ||
| It's so smart. | ||
| They are so, so creative to look at the problem that way. | ||
| Isn't it? | ||
| It's oppressed or oppressor. | ||
| Mozart. | ||
| Oppressor. | ||
| binary. They're now saying Beethoven was black though. He wasn't. But they're actually now | ||
| arguing that because of white supremacy Beethoven couldn't actually be marketed as a black man so | ||
| they had to change his race. No joke. Wow. They're they're they uh | ||
| There was this big thing where they started claiming that a black man invented the light bulb and that Thomas Edison just took credit for it. | ||
| Thomas Edison was not a cool dude, don't get me wrong. | ||
| But I think the actual story was that a black man who worked for Thomas Edison developed a special filament. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But historical revisionism is very, very important, right? | ||
| They need to get to the point where they can tell us that there is this individual who is God and that you have to believe it or else. | ||
| They need to get to the point where people can't defend themselves, will stop resisting, and will just give up. | ||
| So every day that people challenge the system and say no is a bad day for this machine. | ||
| But I also will say... | ||
| At least for now. | ||
| I don't think there is a grand architect or conspiracy or group that are trying to make it happen. | ||
| I think you could argue there's a conspiracy in the sense that a bunch of people who have a worldview rooted in this don't realize they're destroying everything around them. | ||
| Some people for sure know they're lying, cheating and stealing. | ||
| But it feels like dominoes falling over. | ||
| You know, Joe Biden doesn't seem to be all with it. | ||
| But he hears what people are saying, critical race theory is good, and he goes, okay. | ||
| Mark Milley, the general, he has no idea what he's talking about. | ||
| He goes, I just want to understand white rage, and it's like, bro, that's insane. | ||
| You're believing garbage. | ||
| More and more people believe it. | ||
| It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. | ||
| Yeah, I think this is where the beautiful language stuff comes in, because if you, you know, people call people useful idiots, kind of, but it's kind of more like most of them are well-meaning innocents, I've heard that term, where like, really they're just, you know, they, they want to be better people, like you were saying, Chris, and they want to, but like the beautiful language really Just, it kind of pulls the wool over the eyes of a lot of people, and it's on purpose. | ||
| You see this in every communist society where, I mean, in China, they just came out with a white paper, the Communist Party, about, you know, how the Communist Party in China has led human rights for a hundred years. | ||
| They've been the leader of human rights. | ||
| Uh, you know, because we've, you know, like this is the time where like they killed 80 million people. | ||
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| But they're like, yeah, no, we've definitely, you know, they redefine human rights. | ||
| They say, you know, we talk about the universal, universality of human rights within the context of each country. | ||
| So they're already saying human rights are universal, but we're going to change what this means, human rights. | ||
| And then they go, we believe that human rights are subsistence, development, and contentment. | ||
| And therefore, these are like the metrics that we're using to say that we've, you know, we've lifted so many million people out of poverty, you know, we are the leader in human rights. | ||
| But it's even absurd, even if you use that standard, because they killed and starved and like 80 million people. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, but like, they're able to kind of take this term that sounds great, human rights, that everybody's like, these are universal. | ||
| You know, the UN says human rights are universal. | ||
| And then they can, can come and like, twist that to mean something else, and then make themselves look good. | ||
| That is so interesting to me that they call it the beautiful language because this is exactly what they're doing in the U.S. | ||
| They're changing these terms and this is why I brought up the topic of definitions yesterday. | ||
| When you're going into a debate, you lay out your definitions before you even get started. | ||
| Nothing proceeds until you know exactly where everyone stands and where everything is lined up. | ||
| And this is why they won't define. | ||
| This is why postmodernism is so dangerous. | ||
| It's because they defy definition. | ||
| It's one of their stronger points. | ||
| It's basically what makes postmodernism what it is. | ||
| It gives them this lability to kind of change the way you perceive the world. | ||
| And when you're arguing with them, oh, well, I didn't mean that. | ||
| That doesn't mean that anymore. | ||
| That used to mean that. | ||
| It's evolved. | ||
| Critical race theory. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Christopher Ruffo goes on Joy Reid's show on MSNBC and says critical race theory is rooted in Marxism. | ||
| And she goes, no, it isn't. | ||
| And he's like, intersectionality is rooted in critical race theory. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| This author is a critical race theorist. | ||
| No, she isn't. | ||
| And everything he said was true and verifiable. | ||
| But they changed the definitions. | ||
| She goes, Robin DiAngelo isn't a critical race theorist. | ||
| She's a critical white studies author. | ||
| Of course, critical white studies is a component of critical race theory. | ||
| They just try and make it as confusing as possible so you can never criticize them. | ||
| It's all semantics. | ||
| I mean, it is like Orwell wrote in 1984. | ||
| It's like you lose a language to describe objective reality, and it drives you crazy. | ||
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Right. | |
| And that's, I mean, like, that's really destructive. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I think this is when I'm shocked something. | ||
| I think it's defectors in the beginning having a hard time. | ||
| Because in North Korea, words, like, it doesn't mean anything. | ||
| I mean, like, right? | ||
| Like, no words. | ||
| Like, words mean nothing. | ||
| It's in TV, like, say, oh, maybe we live in the socialist paradise, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| I mean, there's never a bad news, right? | ||
| So everything that you study in school is not really relevant to your actual life. | ||
| When I came here, I was so shocked how seriously the words meant to people. | ||
| And I don't know, it's so insane. | ||
| I don't know how they did that in North Korea. | ||
| I mean, it's kind of the way that a communist regime destroys society in a certain sense, because you destroy the meaning of language so everybody's a liar. | ||
| You have to be a liar all the time for your survival. | ||
| And then there's nothing, right? | ||
| Well, you made a Stargate reference earlier. | ||
| Yes, I did. | ||
| SG-1, though. | ||
| So in the movie, they go to this other planet through the Stargate portal, and when they try and write on the ground, the slaves there freak out, like, writing is forbidden, what are you doing? | ||
| And they're like, we're trying to convey an idea to you, and it's like, you can't do that. | ||
| And it's because when people have the ability to communicate, they become dangerous. | ||
| They share ideas. | ||
| They become more knowledgeable. | ||
| They start to understand. | ||
| The collective computational power of a large group of people is a lot. | ||
| So to keep people oppressed, you must limit their ability to understand reality and share those ideas. | ||
| Well, this is why I think the United States of America has always been the greatest enemy to communism. | ||
| You know, it states, we hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal, that there is this, I mean, they called it like nature or the creator that gives people inalienable rights. | ||
| This is different from most other countries, that you don't have freedom of speech or freedom of | ||
| religion because the government grants you that. | ||
| You have it because you're human. | ||
| You have this because something beyond human understanding has made it an innate part of your existence. | ||
| And that creates an objective reality that is the opposite of communism, | ||
| like Shelley was talking about with human rights in China. | ||
| What they're saying is we have our definition of human rights, | ||
| you have your definitions of human rights. | ||
| Don't enforce your values, don't push your values on us. | ||
| And then you get lost in all these word games. | ||
| But if you just zoom out, and what the Chinese Communist Party is doing to the Uyghurs | ||
| is evil. | ||
| What it's doing to Falun Gong is evil. | ||
| What it's doing to all the Chinese people is evil. | ||
| That is objective truth. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| The one thing that greatly benefits China in the international conflict where we're trying to convince people who's right and who's wrong is the narrative of Black Lives Matter in the United States about some grand institutionalized racism where they come out and say look what you're doing to these minorities and it's all exaggerated or extreme or at the very least they hyper focus on some stories and make it seem like the whole of the country is racist or broken I mean, that's what Chinese propaganda has been doing about the U.S. | ||
| for years. | ||
| Every day, there's a 30-minute Chinese news show that plays on every channel, right? | ||
| And, like, it's always, whenever they talk about America, it's always about how dangerous and violent and racist and whatever, how bad it is. | ||
| And so this stuff about critical race theory is kind of just like, it's exactly the same thing. | ||
| And they are so happy. | ||
| The Chinese Communist Party, like, loves this. | ||
| They use it all the time. | ||
| Like, they can just say, oh, well, you can't criticize us for Wuhan, the lab leak or coronavirus. | ||
| I mean, they won't admit it's a lab leak. | ||
| But, you know, you say that it's racist. | ||
| There was an incident that happened in the UN last week where Canada was about to bring up that there should be an investigation into the Uyghur genocide and the Chinese representative stood up and was like, preemptively said, actually there needs to be an investigation to Canada for what happened to the indigenous children. | ||
| You know, like he just like right before the Canadian official was going to say something just came up and Classic Communist Party move. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So yeah, they love this. | ||
| You know, it's funny, there's this, it's like a joke idea. | ||
| What if we are actually in North Korea? | ||
| Not like literally the physical space, like what if people in America are the ones who think they're so smart and think they know the world, but it's all propaganda, it's all manipulation, it's all controlled. | ||
| And then actually in these other countries, they have spaceships and they have, you know, a hundred years more advanced technology. | ||
| The idea is that for a lot of people, you just believe what the TV tells you, you just believe what the newspapers tell you. | ||
| I suppose the difference is in the United States, we have these kinds of conversations that challenge our own understanding of the world. | ||
| We also have freedom of movement so we can go to these other countries or meet people from these countries. | ||
| You can't though. | ||
| You can go to a lot of countries, but there are some countries you can't go to. | ||
| American passport will not get you in. | ||
| I have to take your word for it, and you might be CIA. | ||
| I have to take your word for it, and you might be CIA. | ||
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See? | |
| See? | ||
| That proves it. | ||
| I know. | ||
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Mom kid. | |
| Yeah, me too. | ||
| But there are a lot of countries you can't get into. | ||
| No, I think it's a funny idea, but the fact that you can even mention this idea that our government does lie to us. | ||
| Of course they lie to us. | ||
| There's classified information. | ||
| They have to lie in some circumstances, but they lie when they shouldn't, and there's a lot of people who are corrupt. | ||
| But then our media lies to us all the time as well. | ||
| I do think it's funny when we talk about the things China is doing. | ||
| And, you know, you mentioned that China's got this program where they say all these things about the United States. | ||
| We got the same thing, sort of, right? | ||
| We've got these corporate American deep state whatever media that just say whatever the establishment wants them to say. | ||
| Granted, we also have the internet with some free speech still available to the rest of us, but more so than many of these other countries. | ||
| I mean, the great thing for China is that the American corporate media is saying the same thing as the Chinese propaganda, especially during the entire coronavirus. | ||
| Yeah, that's solid. | ||
| They did for China. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And YouTube saying you can't speak out against the World Health Organization. | ||
| What they say is law. | ||
| Don't say anything that contradicts them. | ||
| Well, even worse, this is something we covered recently, like a lot of these medical journals early on that were saying, you know, it's lab leak hypothesis, complete conspiracy theory. | ||
| Not only were they quoting scientists like Dr. Peter Daszak, who was working with the Wuhan Institute of Virology, China is giving money to some of the biggest medical journals in the world. | ||
| Lancet and Springer Nature, right? | ||
| Yeah, Springer Nature and Elsevier, which is the parent company of Lancet. | ||
| They get a lot of money from China to publish open access journals. | ||
| So somebody estimated that Springer Nature's deal with China is worth like $10 million a year. | ||
| I think it's much worse than anybody realizes. | ||
| Let me explain to you guys how easy it is to control the American narrative, especially with something like YouTube. | ||
| YouTube is one of the greatest vehicles for political propaganda ever created. | ||
| Let's say you're China. | ||
| You want the American public to believe your lies and your propaganda. | ||
| It's simple. | ||
| Take a large portion of your money and then buy ads on the YouTube channels that say the things that you like. | ||
| It's that simple. | ||
| What ends up happening is YouTube sees that, oh advertisers really love these particular YouTubers. | ||
| They generate a ton of ad revenue. | ||
| Prop them up. | ||
| Boost them in the algorithm. | ||
| They get prominent positioning. | ||
| They get more and more views. | ||
| They become wealthy and successful. | ||
| They hire people and expand their companies. | ||
| It's that simple. | ||
| There's no way to track it. | ||
| Unless Google was audited and forced to reveal where the money is coming through. | ||
| But it's very, it works in any capacity. | ||
| Any individual can run any video as an ad, and anybody can buy an advertisement and choose to run it on a specific channel. | ||
| So if you find somebody who's producing a show called, like, China, you know, a YouTube channel called Why China is Right, and every day they do an hour video where, as an American, they're like, this is lies and propaganda, China is great, Some political actor might not be able to physically fund that without an ad appearing. | ||
| YouTube will say, this is Chinese-sponsored. | ||
| But the Chinese government could put money into a company which then advertises sneakers. | ||
| And they say, we want to run all of these ads for sneakers on this channel. | ||
| On this China is Right. | ||
| On this China is Right channel. | ||
| And you think this China is Right channel would make a lot of money? | ||
| It makes a lot of money because they're giving the money to the creator and to Google. | ||
| Google doesn't care. | ||
| So think about it, right? | ||
| If you guys have a YouTube channel, the US government could be secretly putting money into Google and you would never know. | ||
| As an individual, you would not know. | ||
| Because Google just says, hey, here's how much money you made in ads and you have no idea where the ads came from or what the ads are for. | ||
| I have people, they mention to me, like, oh, I got a Bloomberg ad on your video once. | ||
| This is back during the election or whatever, primaries. | ||
| And I'm like, good, I rag on the guy all the time, so if he's paying me to rag on him, it's understandable that he wants to try and counter that narrative, but I don't think you guys buy it, right? | ||
| I think my audience is smart enough to realize the dude's full of it and he's buying political ads, and I'll take his money. | ||
| But what if it's more insidious than that? | ||
| What if it's a company for air conditioners? | ||
| Every ad spot that you have, so there's ad inventory. | ||
| Your video could be a certain amount of minutes, maybe it's 15 minutes, and a YouTube ad can appear every certain amount of minutes, and algorithmically they restrict how many ads can appear. | ||
| Not every video sells every possible ad space. | ||
| But what if you were China? | ||
| You saw a YouTuber who was constantly saying things good about you. | ||
| You could indirectly make sure every single available ad on that channel was paid for, and that YouTuber is now making tons of money, successful, and driven to produce more of the content they're doing because it works. | ||
| China's doing it simpler. | ||
| They're just directly paying some YouTubers. | ||
| And I don't think those YouTubers have a state-sponsored... No. | ||
| There are a bunch of white, pro-China YouTubers suddenly who are going to Xinjiang and walking around saying, there's no genocide here! | ||
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Wow. | |
| Look at this cotton field. | ||
| Where's the genocide? | ||
| There was this really creepy moment where China was asking people to upload a video to their YouTube channels, where it was a guy complaining about a Falun Gong show in New York City. | ||
| They were like, I think it was Falun Gong. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| It was some like theater show. | ||
| And he was like, this is wrong and creepy. | ||
| Why is this religious organization being allowed to put on this show? | ||
| And you'd get an email and they were like, we'll give you $200 to upload this to your channel right now. | ||
| Oh yeah, I heard about this. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, that's super weird. | ||
| Yeah, I think it's against the rules, but maybe not. | ||
| Maybe not. | ||
| Do you guys feel like this is capitalism defeating itself? | ||
| Like the fact that people are being able to monetize this money that's available to weaponize information against the way that the West has become powerful? | ||
| That's kind of what I've been thinking. | ||
| This might be kind of a tangential answer to that question, but I don't believe in capitalism. | ||
| I think that's a Marxist kind of construct, a binary. | ||
| You have communism or you have capitalism. | ||
| And that's not really true. | ||
| It's like you have freedom to engage in the economy. | ||
| It's not capitalism, it's freedom. | ||
| Yeah, capitalism existed as like the normal human mode of trade and economics and then Marx kind of gave a name to it. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| It was just enterprise. | ||
| And while also ignoring that, you know, there were other systems like mercantilism or subsistence farming. | ||
| It just blames all the problems in history on capitalism. | ||
| That guy was nuts. | ||
| What a crazy dude. | ||
| I hear he smelled bad, too. | ||
| I heard he was racist. | ||
| He should be cancelled for his racism. | ||
| He actually was kind of racist, right? | ||
| He really was, yeah. | ||
| Alright, well, we should take Super Chats. | ||
| If you haven't already, give us a like, hit that like button, subscribe to the channel, and share the show if you think these conversations are important. | ||
| We're definitely gonna have more like it. | ||
| And now, there's a lot of questions because this is like one of the more serious, you know, shows that we've done. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| All right. | ||
| Arduick says, it's about time Tim gets a real Korean on his show. | ||
| Joking, joking. | ||
| Love you both. | ||
| Hi, Yeonmi. | ||
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Hi. | |
| All right. | ||
| I think they want more Stargate references. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I was thinking there. | ||
| I've been watching a lot of SD1. | ||
| I love that show. | ||
| Yeah, me too. | ||
| It's fantastic. | ||
| Yeah, big fan. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
| You guys, you've all been watching it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, I missed it when it was on, so I've been going through it on Netflix. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| And now I'm, like, on the sixth season. | ||
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It's fantastic. | |
| I think I'm on season three. | ||
| The one with Dom DeLuise is the best. | ||
| Don't spoil it for me. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I think I'm on season three, but I think I started with season two, so I need to, like, stop and go back and make sure I watch, but heaven a blast. | ||
| All right, Mark Guidetti says, Yanmi is such an inspiring human being. | ||
| Tim, it's surprising it took this long to have her as a guest. | ||
| Well, you know, we have to do it. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Garhent says, Chris and Shelley love your show. | ||
| Can you talk about your Uyghur teacher who escaped interview? | ||
| And then they said, Yanmi is the hottest Korean in America. | ||
| Sorry, Tim. | ||
| Yikes. | ||
| I think he's talking about the guy we interviewed who he tried to start a kindergarten. | ||
| Oh, him? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he tried to start a kindergarten and was put in prison for it because he wanted to teach the Uyghur language in this kindergarten. | ||
| And the most interesting thing I think that came out of our conversation, he was also raped when he was put in this like prison camp. | ||
| That's standard for everyone. | ||
| It's just, he said it's just a matter of how much you can rape. | ||
| He was like a little raped. | ||
| He was raped only once or twice. | ||
| I think that was kind of how he put it. | ||
| But like, he talked about how, you know, even growing up as a Uyghur in China, he had this idea that like, it was kind of a misunderstanding. | ||
| that if the Chinese Communist Party just really understood what was happening with the Uyghurs, | ||
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Hmm. | |
| like on the ground, then there wouldn't be so much repression, you know? | ||
| Like he just kind of thought it was a misunderstanding. | ||
| And this is something we've heard from multiple Chinese dissidents, | ||
| or people who've been in prison for their beliefs, or whatever, that like they thought it was just like, | ||
| because they grew up in this environment where they're taught, like even if you try to resist | ||
| the brainwashing, if you're a dissident, you're a pretty stubborn person, right? | ||
| You're a pretty stubborn, opinionated person. | ||
| But even people who were like able to dissent from an authoritarian system, they had that part of them that was kind of a little bit in disbelief that it would actually get so bad. | ||
| Like he didn't think he was going to go to prison for starting a kindergarten. | ||
| Right? Yeah. | ||
| And that's the recent student protests. | ||
| They had a legitimate complaint about the government taking private schools and blending | ||
| them with vocational schools, kind of watering down their degrees. | ||
| They protested. | ||
| I don't think they knew that they were protesting on the anniversary of June 4th, the Tiananmen | ||
| Square Massacre. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Because they didn't know. | ||
| They didn't know. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And yeah, so I'm sure to them, it's, I think what always happens is it's like, oh, this | ||
| is an obviously reasonable thing. | ||
| Obviously the party is reasonable. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| And actually, this was something, this was a really good point for understanding China | ||
| And actually, this was something, this was a really good point for understanding China | ||
| that another Chinese YouTuber, Laowai86, Cmilk, mentioned. | ||
| that another Chinese YouTuber, Laowai86, Cmilk, mentioned. | ||
| I thought this was really, really clever. | ||
| I thought this was really, really clever. | ||
| When people, like the Communist Party says, like, you know, people in China have huge | ||
| When people, like the Communist Party says, like, you know, people in China have huge | ||
| approval ratings of the Communist Party. | ||
| And now there's all the propaganda to, you know, whatever. | ||
| But I think, but he said part of it is essentially true that when people think of the Communist | ||
| Party and the Communist Party alike, they think of the big, faraway central government, | ||
| the main ideas. | ||
| But if you ask people about their local years, the Communist Party having a direct impact | ||
| on their lives. | ||
| That's when they're like, oh, we hate the local officials. | ||
| It's separated in their minds. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Patty B says, I used to think Agent Smith was a bad guy, but watching China Uncensored changed my mind. | ||
| Thanks, China Uncensored, for your work exposing the CCP. | ||
| It's especially important for my country, Australia. | ||
| Graphene for life. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Ian is not here today, though. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Bub Savvy says, repeat after me, I trust the government. | ||
| They will not take my wealth, but the wealth of those I choose. | ||
| Wealth that once distributed will reflect on society my virtues. | ||
| I repeat with confidence, I trust the government. | ||
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| Yeah, I don't know about that one. | ||
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That'll work. | |
| All right, what is this? | ||
| What is this? | ||
| El Rojo Grande says, Hey Tim, PSA just released a limited edition AR-15 lower in response to Biden's comments on defense from a tyrannical government. | ||
| The Tyranny 15, safety selection has freedom, F-15 and nukes engraving. | ||
| Very cool. | ||
| Yeah, Joe Biden. | ||
| I made the joke on Twitter that I'm sure King George III said, you doth think that I would succeed in battle against the crown? | ||
| Because they don't really talk that way, I know. | ||
| You would need cavalry and frigates. | ||
| Yeah, this idea that Joe Biden basically said, if we're a repressive government, | ||
| don't even bother. | ||
| That's what it sounded like he was saying. | ||
| It's the craziest thing. | ||
| Yeah, it was also a reference a quote from Thomas Jefferson, which is funny | ||
| for him to kind of disparage. | ||
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Okay, let's see what we got. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Tom Holland says, Hey Tim and crew, 25 year old brain cancer survivor. | ||
| Can be secretary, whatever you guys need. | ||
| Minimal pay. | ||
| I love what you guys do. | ||
| Feel free to send an email over to jobs at TimCast.com. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Jay Vance 131 says, I love Yeonmi Park. | ||
| Please let her know that all of us in America support her and we will always protect her. | ||
| She is an amazing and very brave woman. | ||
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That is true. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Chuck Norris Gun Club says send her to Congress! | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Have you testified to Congress before? | ||
| Any issues? | ||
| I think that would be very important. | ||
| How do we make that happen? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| People should find the appropriate Republican who has the gall to challenge wokeism and wokeness and bring on someone who's had experience. | ||
| Josh Hawley. | ||
| Who would that be? | ||
| Santus? | ||
| Massie? | ||
| Rubio? | ||
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Maybe. | |
| Maybe. | ||
| I think Hawley would do it. | ||
| I think Cruz. | ||
| Cruz would do it. | ||
| Ted Cruz. | ||
| He wrote a letter about this and he introduced a bill to ban critical race theory. | ||
| So Ted Cruz, are you listening? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Definitely should have Yummy Park testify about what these communists do. | ||
| And that lady from Virginia. | ||
| The lady from Virginia? | ||
| Yeah, the lady who escaped Maoist China. | ||
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Oh, oh, oh. | |
| I'm like, I thought you were referring to a politician. | ||
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No, no, no, no. | |
| Not from Virginia, no way. | ||
| Hey, Loudoun County's doing all right. | ||
| I know, yeah. | ||
| That's where that lady was. | ||
| Final Y, uh, Final Ixer, or Yixer, I'm not sure. | ||
| He says, uh, her story is literally heartbreaking. | ||
| I always knew North Korea was bad, but this is crazy. | ||
| Yeah, the story about no love. | ||
| Like, that is dark. | ||
| That's so sad. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Fob Joe says most of us know Tim's opinion about Trump crossing the DMZ, but Yanmi has a contrasting opinion. I'd | ||
| love for you two to have a discussion about it. | ||
| Uh, well that super chat was actually before I think we did bring it up. | ||
| Yeah, because for me it was kind of like... Trump took a big risk doing it. | ||
| But I certainly think he ended up not getting much from it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Rockslide says I had to donate today to say that you are a hero, Yanmi. | ||
| Hearing your story shook me to my core, and in this world, not much does that anymore. | ||
| You are a glowing reminder why this fight is so important. | ||
| Amen! | ||
| Oh, thank you. | ||
| That's the nicest thing I've ever heard. | ||
| I mean, I became big after the Fox News thing. | ||
| And they were like, actually my personal friends reaching out to me. | ||
| I'm concerned about you. | ||
| Why are you doing this? | ||
| Why are you being like, oh. | ||
| Why are you being used by Sean Hannity? | ||
| He's a liar. | ||
| He's a propagandist. | ||
| Why do you have to share that on Fox News? | ||
| And I was like, they were the only one who was interested in listening to me. | ||
| If the New York Times calls me, I'm going to do an interview with them and share my views. | ||
| And they're like, OK. | ||
| But the New York Times didn't call you? | ||
| OK, no. | ||
| But they're communists. | ||
| Not literally, but there is this ideological element taking over these industries. | ||
| But it was interesting, when I was criticizing Trump, New York Times loved me. | ||
| Of course they did! | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, whenever I defeat their narrative, they use me. | ||
| So they are the ones actually using you. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I, uh, Mark Robertshaw says, Kim is a goa'uld. | ||
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What have you done? | |
| Why is Stargate all of a sudden becoming relevant? | ||
| So I used to, I used to quote Star Trek all the time and people were like, Tim, you gotta watch Stargate SG-1. | ||
| So I was like, I started watching it and I watch it like a couple episodes every day. | ||
| Now all of a sudden it's not Star Trek anymore, it's Stargate. | ||
| It's a good show though. | ||
| Fantastic show. | ||
| It is really cool, a really cool show. | ||
| Except for the weird full frontal nudity in the pilot. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Was there? | ||
| Yeah, I think they were... I didn't see the pilot. | ||
| It was on Showtime. | ||
| Yeah, it was gonna be on Showtime. | ||
| So they were like, oh, this is Showtime. | ||
| It's like a nude Richard Dean Anderson or something? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It was nude women. | ||
| Oh, of course! | ||
| Yeah, they know their audience. | ||
| Well then. | ||
| Richard Dean Anderson, if you're watching. | ||
| He's a great character, though. | ||
| O'Neal was fantastic. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Very different from the movie. | ||
| Alright, Michael Brogan says my question is for Yanni. I noticed that you couldn't laugh at the absurdities of the | ||
| North Korean regime The concept is foreign to us and Americans. How long did it | ||
| take you to get to that point? | ||
| And is it a normal reaction now? | ||
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to be Like to laugh at what they do and what they represent | |
| suppose I'm not yet The other day I was sharing this meme, right? | ||
| In North Korea, killing yourself is a crime. | ||
| So if someone tried to kill yourself, they are going to execute you. | ||
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Oh my gosh. | |
| I saw that one. | ||
| You're going to kill yourself anyway. | ||
| That is... Still dark? | ||
| Very dark. | ||
| But it's obvious why it's funny. | ||
| It's a representation of how horribly mismanaged and nonsensical the system is. | ||
| It's absurd, yeah. | ||
| And they do not allow any disobedience. | ||
| Even killing yourself is not up to you. | ||
| It's up to me as a state. | ||
| You do not even have that right. | ||
| So that's the thing. | ||
| In America, people are saying, oh my god, we have so much problem. | ||
| We have homeless people. | ||
| So do you know what happens if you become homeless in North Korea? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| Freedom to fail. | ||
| Being a homeless is a privilege guys. | ||
| Like you have that much freedom. | ||
| And I couldn't believe like these people just, they choose be homeless and that's their freedom. | ||
| And yeah, in North Korea we don't even have that freedom. | ||
| There is no gratitude in the US. | ||
| Yeah, freedom to fail. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
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| Matthew Lunsford says, thanks for fighting against critical race theory. | ||
| I'm not a colonizer and my wife isn't depressed. | ||
| My children shouldn't be taught otherwise. | ||
| I definitely think one of the biggest weaknesses of critical race theory and these identitarians is mixed race people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Telling, telling a white person they're an oppressor and they're evil. | ||
| It's like they're literally married to a person of a different race or, or, you know, it could be the man or the woman. | ||
| And then all of a sudden they just say, Oh, well, you're fetishizing the other person. | ||
| And it's like, you are seriously insulting love. | ||
| Like few people who care about each other and love each other. | ||
| And what does that mean to their kids who can't split their DNA apart and not be a product of your psychotic ideology? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can tell I take personal issue with those. | ||
| Understandably. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| Bonker says, nobody really owns land in the U.S. | ||
| either. | ||
| Miss a property tax payment and see what happens. | ||
| The only difference is we can hand our property in the tax department with it down to our family. | ||
| But can you do that in China? | ||
| Like the lease you buy, give to a family member, like if you die or something? | ||
| I mean, it's good for 70 years. | ||
| Really? | ||
| So, theoretically, yes. | ||
| So it's still very different though. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But like most people don't actually own even a lease to a land because most property in China is apartments. | ||
| So, you know, you can own the apartment, but you can't own any of the land associated with it. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Ji Yong Hwang says, I'm a Korean Canadian from South. | ||
| I'm quite sure I know more about North Korean history than most North Koreans. | ||
| Things always start with a bait. | ||
| The most prominent one being land redistribution. | ||
| Oh, definitely. | ||
| I think that's true though. | ||
| Do you think that's true that South Koreans probably know more about North Korea than North Koreans? | ||
| You know more about North Korea than North Koreans know about themselves. | ||
| I mean, as I told you, we don't even know. | ||
| Like, we are isolated. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So when people say, like, at Columbia, they're like, I'm so oppressed, right? | ||
| Like, do you know actually when you're oppressed, you don't know you're oppressed? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I believe it was Harriet Tubman who said, I freed many slaves. | ||
| I would have freed many more if only they knew they were slaves. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Powerful stuff. | ||
| Grant says, ask Yeonmi about North Korean education and how they combine math with indoctrination. | ||
| So, yeah, that's a thing. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| But other than that, the most important subject you have to learn is the Kim's revolution history. | ||
| Like, what kind of miracles they do, you know, how much they love their people. | ||
| If he's a god, if Kim Il-sung was a god, then what's the story of the creation of North Korea? | ||
| Like, do they believe he just manifested it, or do they believe it was a revolution? | ||
| No, there was rainbows and singing in the sky. | ||
| The universe chose him. | ||
| The light came out, you know, from the mountain. | ||
| It's a Pink Floyd cover. | ||
| But they do believe it came from the mountain, right? | ||
| Back to Daegang? | ||
| Yeah, back to mountain. | ||
| And then this is a universe chose him. | ||
| It's not us. | ||
| So then he gave us his son. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But then what's Kim Jong-un? | ||
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So, they lost a little bit. | |
| But they said, like, Kim Jong-un is more like the first grandfather. | ||
| He came back to serve the people. | ||
| So they said he actually did plastic surgery to look like his grandfather. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, he acted like grandfather. | ||
| So to remind people, like, that's how much the dear leader loves you. | ||
| I have a feeling that there's like at some point you got a bunch of these like North Korean Communist Party members and they're like sitting there like and I just half glazed over. | ||
| Let's just say Kim Il-sung came back. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Whatever. | ||
| They'll believe it. | ||
| They will believe it. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| But you literally get executed. | ||
| One of the executioners, Kim Jong-un, did somebody better sleep during the meeting. | ||
| And that afternoon he just got executed. | ||
| He's a top, top official in the country. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Don't they want to leave? | ||
| No. | ||
| Because they know they are loyalties, right? | ||
| These official guys have hundreds of concubines. | ||
| There is no such a concept in North Korea of rape or sexual harassment. | ||
| Nobody gets persecuted for that. | ||
| So if an official is walking on the street, I want that girl, bring her. | ||
| Nobody persecutes them. | ||
| This is a horrifying place. | ||
| So yeah, for these guys, it's their dream. | ||
| Like, Kim Jong-un has a pleasure squad. | ||
| They go around the country, every village, every school. | ||
| They bring these girls, train them, and then make them pleasure squad. | ||
| But not only for Kims. | ||
| Everybody else. | ||
| All these tabloids, man. | ||
| So they have these lust parties while they're preaching communism morals to us. | ||
| There are a lot of stories that certainly make me understand why people are interventionalists. | ||
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| Interventionist, is that the right word? | ||
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| I just think, like, when I hear these stories, it's like everyone in America lives a life of privileged ignorance. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And we need to know these things. | ||
| We need to know how good we have it. | ||
| I think it's one of the problems we're facing. | ||
| A lot of younger people, monial, Gen Z, Gen Alpha, They think they have it bad? | ||
| Well, I always say this, like, when was the last time you had to pay a bribe? | ||
| In America. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| That's so common in the world. | ||
| In so many countries, that's like daily life. | ||
| Not in the US. | ||
| In the US, people are so scared of losing their jobs, they won't even stand up for themselves. | ||
| Not everybody, but a lot of people are like, I can't take a bribe, I'll get in trouble. | ||
| We have scruples. | ||
| It's a good thing. | ||
| It worries me, though, because I think we're losing it. | ||
| We're getting to that point where bribes might actually matter. | ||
| However, though, the woke ideology stuff, purity is more important than anything. | ||
| So when you're terrified of getting cancelled, people won't cross. | ||
| Though some people end up with multi-million dollar mansions. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| Your girlfriend's boyfriend says I'm a big manly man, and hearing the finer details of Yanmi's story made me cry and unable to repeat to others. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because it was so harsh. | ||
| On a lighter note, I want to take her to dinner and see how much she can eat now. | ||
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Oh, I can eat. | |
| I believe it. | ||
| It's good. | ||
| Oh yeah, I definitely can eat. | ||
| Michael McKesson says, Tim, love your video shooting the M82. | ||
| Brings a smile to my face. | ||
| Yeah, we went out with a Barrett M82. | ||
| Do you guys know what that is? | ||
| I imagine it's big. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's very big. | ||
| It is for hunting helicopters. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| There's too many helicopters in this country. | ||
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It's true. | |
| Yeah, they become a nuisance every so often and you got to cull the numbers otherwise they keep breeding and there's helicopters everywhere. | ||
| But it's so cute when they're feeding their young. | ||
| Baby helicopters. | ||
| It really is for hunting helicopters not literally not like anyone's actually doing that United States. | ||
| It's just a very very large Come on, man. | ||
| Why does anyone need that kind of a gun? | ||
| I mean helicopters. | ||
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Um, because it's a... helicopters? What do you mean? | |
| You never know, you know? | ||
| Bad helicopter? | ||
| What if like, what if a burglar comes to your house in a helicopter and he's like, in an Apache, and you're like, hey, you know what you're supposed to do? | ||
| We're allowed to have it, that's the thing. | ||
| Joe Biden doesn't want us to have it, that's for sure, but we are. | ||
| Commander232 says, Park, I have much respect for you and wish you the best. | ||
| I was stationed in South Korea in 2010 through 2011 when I was in the army, and all the Korean people I met were so welcoming and wanting to work with you, and wanting to work with you, and that included North Koreans I met at the DMZ. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| I was there. | ||
| I was in South Korea then. | ||
| Oh, interesting. | ||
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Oh, wow. | |
| I went to, uh, the first time I ever went, it was with Luke actually, and we went to a raccoon cafe. | ||
| Have you ever, did you ever go to any of those? | ||
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No. | |
| Where you go inside and there's raccoons everywhere and you can just pet them and they're like, you give them food. | ||
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Are you a raccoon? | |
| Sounds incredibly dangerous. | ||
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Oh my gosh. | |
| Sounds terrible. | ||
| We have a cat cafe. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The sheep, baby lamb cafes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And there were dog cafes. | ||
| Uh huh. | ||
| But the dogs are so messy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They're like barfing. | ||
| And you're like, I'm like, they expect you to sit down and like have food or like have a drink, like a boba or something. | ||
| It's like, there's just dogs running around. | ||
| It was fun though. | ||
| We went, it was definitely fun. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Mountain Man Chuck says, random question for Yanmi. | ||
| Have you ever been to a live performance of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony? | ||
| No, I haven't. | ||
| But I would love to. | ||
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Yeah? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I think the biggest appreciation that I have is that for North Korean people, history was forgotten. | ||
| So I never knew. | ||
| I mean, even though God made you or the Big Bang happened, still we can connect to the humanity longer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But in North Korea, you just never learn anything before Kim. | ||
| Like, our calendar started to change when Kim Il-sung was born. | ||
| Everything before was erased for us. | ||
| So I think I feel like this lineage now with humanity. | ||
| But in North Korea you just don't have that. | ||
| So if they believe that like rainbows and singing in the sky and then from the mountains comes Kim Il-sung, who's everybody else? | ||
| Who are the Americans? | ||
| Like where do they come from? | ||
| No, you guys are so... My friend, white friend, I took her to South Korea. | ||
| My mom was the first thing touching her. | ||
| Because we learned that you guys are cold-blooded. | ||
| And we don't have internet. | ||
| We cannot look up how Americans look like. | ||
| Like school posters. | ||
| That's how they show their huge nose, green eyes, and Yankees, and like cold-blooded monsters, right? | ||
| They don't even have a heart. | ||
| What was your mom's reaction when she... She was like, oh my god, you're a worm! | ||
| And she was like, why would you touch her? | ||
| She always wanted to know if they were actually cold-blooded or not. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Morgan Nair. | ||
| $10 for Knowles the first time, $10 for Lauren Chen, $10 for Knowles the second time, $10 for China Uncensored, $10 for Uber Ian, $10 for Wonderful Lids, $10 for Yanmi, the bravest, most wonderful voice we have, and $10 for teaching about the horrors of communism. | ||
| God bless. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| It is certainly horrifying. | ||
| All right, let's see. | ||
| Oh, man, there's some, I think someone superchatted in Korean. | ||
| I can't read that. | ||
| All right, let's see. | ||
| But we'll come down to that. | ||
| It jumps and you get a big influx of superchats. | ||
| Ken Bossack says, something something Bitcoin fixes this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, we talk about crypto all the time, but I certainly think Bitcoin does in many ways. | ||
| In Venezuela, for instance, where they want to control and regulate currency and control the people, they can share with Bitcoin. | ||
| Of course, in North Korea, if you don't have a smartphone technology to actually use this stuff, it's probably hard to actually, you know, fix it. | ||
| Here's a question that's probably for me, but I'll say it for, uh, I'll ask Yanmi. | ||
| Brent Chappell says, what has been your favorite anime so far? | ||
| And which one do you want to watch next? | ||
| Anime? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Japanese cartoons. | ||
| So this is a thing because, uh, I came out as like almost 17 years old. | ||
| I mean, I did not know Michael Jackson was, right? | ||
| When people say Michael Jackson was a big deal, so who was that? | ||
| And then when Steve Jobs died, like, I have no clue who Steve Jobs is. | ||
| So my culture thing is so behind. | ||
| So I actually never seen any anime. | ||
| It's like, um, when Captain America had the book of all the things he missed when he was frozen. | ||
| I was like, I'm going to, I'm going to taste a lobster and tomorrow I'm going to eat shrimp. | ||
| I'm going to eat this. | ||
| All the stuff to do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, when Yeonmi said, like, she had never seen a shower before, I was thinking of, like, Demolition Man. | ||
| Where he's in the future, and it's like, oh, he doesn't know what the three seashells are. | ||
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He doesn't know who's the shells! | |
| It's like, that's if you come from North Korea, you'd have no idea. | ||
| The shells. | ||
| Oh gosh, the shells. | ||
| All right. | ||
| AlternativeJK90 says, shout out to Yeonmi and China Uncensored for what you do best. | ||
| Question for Yeonmi, Shelley, and Chris. | ||
| What is your take on the South Korean president? | ||
| My mom believes he secretly is siding with President Xi and the CCP. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Yang Mi from a Korean. | ||
| Aww, thank you. | ||
| And I'm gonna like Chris. | ||
| You guys do such a good job covering about him. | ||
| Well, it doesn't seem so secret to me. | ||
| I mean, Moon Jae-in, in his youth, he was a leftist, kind of a communist sympathizer. | ||
| So there are a lot of people who think that he is still basically that, and the people that are in power in South Korea are sympathize with North Korea, would like to unify with North | ||
| Korea, and also are sympathetic towards China and turning away from the U.S. essentially. | ||
| We did a few videos on China Uncensored about that topic. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| So the idea of reunification that he wants is, let's come together and let's vote. | ||
| South Korea, there are like 10 more parties. | ||
| North Korea, one communist party. | ||
| So who gets more votes, gonna rule the entire Korea. | ||
| So in Korea, you get like 90-90% of the voting rate. | ||
| So they won't be exactly go under Kim Jong-un. | ||
| You can vote communism in. | ||
| You can vote it out. | ||
| We know that. | ||
| You gotta fight your way out. | ||
| That's what it is, right? | ||
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| All right. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| St. Jean the Great says, the use of the word capitalist and subsequently capitalism were | ||
| coined in Germany in the 1850s and ultimately capitalized by a prominent German writer Karl | ||
| Marx. | ||
| The actual definition of our system as capitalist is Marxist thinking. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| That's right. | ||
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Interesting. | |
| 1991 Shadowheart says, Goa'uld lives matter. | ||
| Tok'ra lives matter. | ||
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Yes. | |
| I hear good things about Atlantis. | ||
| Have you watched Stargate Atlantis? | ||
| No, I haven't yet. | ||
| I kind of think SG-1, you know, it's like, it's pretty good. | ||
| I gotta watch it. | ||
| be Ronin decks from Atlantis well Pegasus galaxy that's right um I hear | ||
| good things about Atlantis have you watched Stargate Atlantis no I haven't | ||
| yet I kind of think SG-1 you know it's like it's pretty good I got I got a | ||
| watch there's a lot to it though a lot of people are mentioned they're watching | ||
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| Great! | ||
| Andrew Roan says, I'm getting anti-gun ads on gun channels now. | ||
| I doubt that these channels are getting the ad money. | ||
| Most likely YouTube inserting propaganda. | ||
| They're probably getting the ad money. | ||
| They probably are. | ||
| YouTube allows ads on gun channels. | ||
| Maybe because of anti-gun propaganda. | ||
| So long as the gun is in an appropriate facility. | ||
| You can't have it in a bedroom. | ||
| It's got to be in a gun range or a store. | ||
| You're fine. | ||
| And you also can't take sponsorship from people who sell guns. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| We've covered gun issues on our other show, American, covered a few times, and I think it's always demonetized. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds right. | ||
| T-Town says, Tim, I'm not getting notifications for you anymore. | ||
| They are trying to bury you. | ||
| Hashtag don't bury Tim. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| They are. | ||
| So you need to like this video, subscribe to this channel, hit the notification bell, and even then it doesn't do anything. | ||
| So I guess if you really like the show, you can share the show and go to TimCast.com, become a member, help support our work because we're gonna be bringing on more journalists and expanding our content. | ||
| New website launching in just a few weeks. | ||
| But I guess so long as you like the show and you just come and watch it of your own volition, YouTube doesn't owe me promotion. | ||
| YouTube doesn't owe me notification bells. | ||
| I guess technically if you choose to get notified and you don't, they're kind of ripping you off. | ||
| So set an alarm on your phone. | ||
| Yeah, for Monday through Friday at 8pm. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Nombot says SG1 is so relevant because wokeism equals goa'uld and season four episode six window of opportunity best episode ever. | ||
| I'm not there yet. | ||
| I gotta really watch this show. | ||
| Yeah, it's time to watch the show, I guess. | ||
| I'm so sore right now. | ||
| Alright, we'll just do a couple more here. | ||
| I'm lost. | ||
| AI Train, I think it says A-Train or is it L-Train? | ||
| Thank you for bringing Yami onto the show. | ||
| I picked up her book recently and it's one of the most heartbreaking stories I've ever read. | ||
| What she went through is hell and to come out of it and be the person she is today is just amazing. | ||
| She's a wonderful person. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Do you want to mention your book? | ||
| Yeah, it's called In Order to Live. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That book ended when I began Columbia, right before. | ||
| Thank God. | ||
| Imagine if I would stay there. | ||
| There's gonna be a whole other chapter about it. | ||
| Then maybe it would not be published and reviewed by the mainstream. | ||
| That's the kind of book that should be required in schools, you know? | ||
| Understanding other cultures, understanding authoritarianism. | ||
| Maybe in Florida. | ||
| You also have a YouTube channel. | ||
| Oh yeah, I do. | ||
| I have a channel that talks about North Korea. | ||
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Cool. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I want to talk about the beauty standard of North Korea. | ||
| So you know, in North Korea, who's the hottest guy? | ||
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Kim Jong-un. | |
| Everybody's so poor, right? | ||
| So in North Korea, thin waistline is not a beauty. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Being heavier. | ||
| If you're bored, symbol of status. | ||
| So you gotta be chubby and bored. | ||
| And you are very attractive. | ||
| So we're gonna get, maybe, we were having a laugh with Michael Malice and we're talking about getting an old-timey painting where we can like take the eyes out and have the eyes follow you. | ||
| And Michael said that we should, he showed us a picture, a painting of Kim Jong-il wearing a samurai outfit and riding a tiger. | ||
| Have you ever seen that painting before? | ||
| No. | ||
| He was like, this is the painting you have to get. | ||
| And I was like, I'm down. | ||
| Like, that'd be amazing. | ||
| Wow. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That'd be really funny. | ||
| We gotta do that. | ||
| That sounds great. | ||
| Darun Olbane says, Tim, watch Farscape show. | ||
| It's awesome. | ||
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All right. | |
| Well, that's after SG1, I suppose. | ||
| Farscape was cool. | ||
| Was it? | ||
| Not as good as SG1. | ||
| Samuel Brucker says, So how do we let the North Koreans know that we love them and that we believe that they are worth saving? | ||
| Can we drop millions of crates full of KFC blue jeans and iPhones? | ||
| That'd be your dream. | ||
| So there are nonprofits that I work with. | ||
| We send outside information to North Koreans. | ||
| So when I was in North Korea, one of the turning points for me was watching movie Titanic. | ||
| Because, I mean, until then, we don't learn. | ||
| We don't know. | ||
| In North Korea? | ||
| How did you get it? | ||
| It's through the underground market. | ||
| But you get executed. | ||
| And sent to prison camp for watching foreign information. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah, if you ever read the Bible, you get executed. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Wow. | ||
| So, you're literally risking your life to watch some movie. | ||
| And here we just do a Netflix binge all night. | ||
| You can actually- Imagine being executed for Titanic. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yikes. | ||
| I wouldn't do that. | ||
| But you can actually watch some really messed up stuff on the internet in America, like, things you shouldn't watch, you can watch. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let alone the Titanic, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Wow. | |
| So, I mean, those kind of things you can do. | ||
| Like, there are a lot of work we can do to let them know. | ||
| And, I mean, a lot of people are saying, like, oh, what are we going to do? | ||
| Like, North Koreans are so brainwashed. | ||
| They think we are monsters. | ||
| But when I came to America, like, just looking at you guys, lie doesn't have power. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| We never have to be worrying about these lies. | ||
| What's the name of your non-profit that does that? | ||
| I'm working with the Human Rights Foundation. | ||
| They have this program called Flash Drives for Freedom. | ||
| So we send USB sticks with information. | ||
| And somehow North Koreans love the Beverly Hills Desperate Wives. | ||
| I don't know why, but because it's so different. | ||
| So they want to escape their life, I think. | ||
| They just want to look at that. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Well, to everybody who hung out on this Friday night and smashed that like button, thank you all so very much. | ||
| Subscribe to the channel. | ||
| Use the notification bell, I guess. | ||
| It doesn't seem to work. | ||
| So set an alarm on your phone for 8 p.m. | ||
| every day over at youtube.com slash TimCastIRL. | ||
| You can follow us on Instagram and Facebook at TimCastIRL. | ||
| You can follow me at TimCast and go to TimCast.com, become a member. | ||
| We're gonna have a vlog up tomorrow over at youtube.com slash CastCastle. | ||
| Which is what did we do this time? | ||
| Oh, we went to, um, zip lining. | ||
| And then this is, this is really, really funny. | ||
| Luke blows up the house and nukes the planet. | ||
| I'm not kidding. | ||
| Literally the vlog is Luke blowing up the house. | ||
| It's silly. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| You'll love it. | ||
| Do you want, uh, well, I guess I suppose you just shouted out your book and your YouTube channel already, but do you have any other social media or anything else you want to mention? | ||
| Oh, well, I'm on like Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, not on TikTok. | ||
| So find me on other platforms. | ||
| Just YouTube is good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's called the Voice of North Korea. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Cool. | |
| And then China Uncensored, Challenge Chris, you want to mention anything? | ||
| Uh, you can follow me on Twitter at Shell Zhang, S-H-E-L-Z-H-A-N-G. | ||
| Although to be honest, I've been a little late on Twitter lately, but you know. | ||
| It was good for the mental health. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you can follow China Uncensored or America Uncovered or our podcast China Unscripted on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, not TikTok. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's right. | ||
| And you guys can follow me on Twitter at Sour Patchlets. | ||
| And thank you guys both for coming. | ||
| Yanmi, I feel like I speak for many people when I say that your story was incredibly moving. | ||
| You presented it so calmly and so rationally that I think that hopefully it will change a lot of people's minds. | ||
| And of course, Chris and Shelley, for your knowledge about China. | ||
| Thank you for having me. | ||
| Cheers for Yanmi. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| Yeonmi, the story about how you risked your life to watch a movie, how you faced certain death even just staying where you were and you had to make your way to China, how you endured slavery because it was better than death, but how you traveled through the desert to make it finally to South Korea to find freedom is one of the most inspirational stories I've ever heard. | ||
| And so I hope it inspires many Americans to stand up for what they believe in. | ||
| To not allow ideologues and authoritarians to take over, because certainly it can be way worse if we do nothing. | ||
| And we have a lot to lose as a country, but for the time being, fighting back, we would never even risk as bad as it was for the things you've experienced. | ||
| I mean, Americans, their worst case scenario will never be as nearly as devastating unless we do nothing. | ||
| So I hope that's a good reminder and thank you for coming. | ||
| I really appreciate it. | ||
| So everybody else, thanks for hanging out. | ||
| We will see you all Monday in the next episode and have a good weekend. |
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