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June 9, 2021 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool And Elijah Schaffer Discuss The Andy Ngo Incident And Jan 6th(FULL)

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ian crossland

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This past week, there was a huge story about journalist Andy Ngo going undercover into
		to an Antifa protest being found out, chased and beaten and nearly killed.
		And this is a group of people that have expressed their desire to kill him and nearly beat him to death only a few years ago.
		They threw milkshakes, they left him bloody, his teeth were, you know, he had blood in his mouth, he had blood in his ears.
		And they mock him and they laugh about it.
		And this was one of the rare times the mainstream media actually came out and had to say something bad about Antifa.
		And boy, did they not like it.
		In fact, Rolling Stone claimed that he was grifting and manipulating the press because it was very damaging to their narrative.
		Well, the news broke, I believe it was last week, or, you know, the week before, actually, the weekend before, that someone was attacked by an Antifa group.
		They claimed it was Andy Ngo in their photos, and no one was sure whether it was Andy Ngo or not.
		When word came out Andy issued a statement and confirmed this, a lot of people weren't necessarily surprised that Antifa would try to brutally beat a journalist, let alone Andy Ngo.
		But there was a heated debate.
		Probably, I mean, I'm probably the only one who came out who was very critical.
		And you know what I said yesterday?
		Maybe I was a little crude in my tweet about it.
		I can accept that.
		By all means, criticize me for it.
		But I stand by my opinion 100%.
		My opinion was that I think Andy would be better served leading the charge and not going down personally.
		But feel free to disagree, and that's what we're gonna be talking about today, among a bunch of other things.
		We are hanging out with Elijah Schaefer, who has experience on the ground reporting not just covering Antifa, but the Capitol riots as well.
		And we had a difference of opinion, so I thought, why don't we have a longer conversation about the idea?
		specifically about him with Andy Ngo, but into the nitty gritty of covering Antifa,
		what Antifa is, what they do, and proper strategies for dealing with that, among a bunch of other
		things because I know that you were criticized by a lot of people for covering the January
		6th riot at the Capitol and there was a lot of weird...
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		To say the least.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like...
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		To say the least.
		I mean, and this isn't the first pushback, obviously, that we've seen where people are
		talking crap on reporters and I think this is where I want to give a little caveat here,
		why I think this is such a sensitive thing and maybe why you saw the tribalistic emotional
		response to your opinion is because...
		that's what I'm talking about.
		There's been this sort of a blowback towards these guerrilla journalists and reporters from the left sort of making them the problem.
		It started with, I think, I don't remember what her name was, but she was like a sort of butch lesbian looking professor from Harvard wrote a like op-ed talking about how Andy Ngo and myself and our coverage was sort of what was to blame for inciting more riots.
		And she sort of blamed the actual coverage of the events with what was sort of like the copycat Shootings that happen around the country that more people would see the footage be inspired by it and would continue to enact upon it And then we also have the intercept video the hit piece per se that was a major blowback That was trying to make people say well when you see the facts being recorded ask yourself the question Who's behind the camera recording the facts and video is a lie apparently right and not coming from an ideologue?
		Oh I mean, so you stuck your finger in an open gunshot wound.
		Really is what you did here is that people are feeling this sort of defense, altruistic, emotional defense for these people who put their lives on the line.
		Then, you know, Tim Pool comes, this YouTuber living in his mansion, a skater guy, and he gives his strong opinion.
		And everyone's always like, shut up, Tim.
		You're just joining in the hate.
		And I think that's kind of sort of where we're at right now is a lot of people are not looking at this from an intellectual perspective.
		We're not even talking about this in a real way.
		They're just about picking sides.
		And I hope people don't do that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's a fantastic mix between people who are like, you have no idea what you're talking about, Tim.
		All you do is sit in a room.
		And then the other people saying, Tim, for ten years you were on the ground at the most dangerous places in the world.
		Who are you to criticize someone for doing the same thing?
		And I'm like, okay, so I guess both are wrong?
		But we'll get into the nitty-gritty of that.
		I also want to point out for everybody who's wondering, our internet did get struck by lightning, and getting Verizon to come out and fix it I'll give you an analogy, but it's just impossible.
		You know, we can call every single Verizon phone number in the book.
		They don't come out.
		It took six months to get the internet, longer than that, to get it set up in the first place.
		So when we had one internet guy come out, because we have four redundancies, and they're all broken.
		And he came out, he was like, your wires are fried, man.
		It must have been like a lightning strike.
		So we've got a long fiber optic cable that we can't repair ourselves.
		And they don't want to either, and so here we are with completely broken internet for that reason.
		But this is recorded.
		It goes up on iTunes and Spotify, so for whatever reason, you know, you can't handle because of the interruptions.
		You know, we're trying.
		It's the best we can do.
		But we're going to carry on the conversation, and it will be up on all podcast platforms.
		And don't forget to go to TimCast.com.
		You can become a member there.
		We'll have a bonus segment.
		That's all recorded and then uploaded after, so it should be fine.
		But Ian, he's chilling.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		Yeah, this is great.
		Good conversation, because there's a big problem in the scientific community where measuring something can end up altering the substance or the situation that you're actually trying to measure.
		Just the act of measuring can disturb the system.
		So I wonder if journalism does that, especially when, like, if someone's in somebody's face, you know, like electron behavior, right?
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		I mean, talking about whether or not you're monitoring it or not.
		You can have different patterns of behavior and recording.
		And I do agree with that.
		And I think criticisms of people in the media are valid.
		I think it's good to criticize people.
		I think people getting emotional even over this situation is foolish because even if you pick sides or you like people, the whole point of disagreements are that we can come to a better conclusion and try to understand really what is the better take, at least for ourselves, for the country.
		We seem to have lost that as a nation.
		And I think people are so into, who's your favorite internet celebrity?
		Your favorite e-boy or e-girl that they forget that these are real people, this is a real country.
		I know it's a shocker, but America is still a real country.
		Doesn't feel like it, but we still are.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm not entirely convinced.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We'll talk about that too, because we've got a bunch of other stories as well, but Lydia, she's pressing the button.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I'm in the corner as well, and I'm really intrigued for this conversation.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I hate to see tribalism for the right, so hopefully we can knock some of that out tonight.
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		We record these so, you know, our internet has been struck by lightning, and it's basically down, and we're doing everything in our power to fix it, but again, maybe y'all can tweet at Verizon and be like, why aren't you fixing the internet?
		I don't know.
		But we'll have a bonus segment up.
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		Let's talk about this first story and get into the nitty gritty discussion about Andy Ngo.
		We have the story from Yahoo News.
		Journalist Andy Ngo says he was nearly killed by Antifa while undercover at Oregon protest.
		Conservative journalist Andy Ngo said he was chased and beaten by Antifa members while covering a protest in Portland, Oregon late last month.
		Noe, who says he has focused on exposing Antifa for years, said no journalist in America should ever face violence for doing his or her job.
		The attack occurred on May 28th while Noe was covering the ongoing protests and riots in Portland for a new chapter of his book, Unmasked, inside Antifa's radical plan to destroy democracy.
		In a Twitter thread on June 2nd, Noe explained that he had to mitigate risks like other beat reporters would on the field, so he covered his face and eyes to do the job and stay alive.
		He told Fox News his disguise began to fall apart when rioters noticed that he had not been participating in throwing projectiles at law enforcement or trying to damage the Central Police Station.
		The mob allegedly pulled his mask off and upon confirming his identity chased him through downtown Portland before one caught up and repeatedly punched his head and face.
		A video of the incident shared by the Willamette Week, uh, by the Willamette Week, shows a group of masked individuals who are mostly white, banging on the windows of the Nine's Hotel, where Noh was a temporary refugee, was a temporary refuge, before ending up in the emergency room with multiple injuries.
		I do have to point out that this article published by Yahoo, it's kind of hilarious how they're like, the protesters were mostly white, because even though they don't like Andy, they have to point out he is still a person of color being beaten by white people.
unidentified		Oh yeah.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Which is like a weird... He's also gay.
		Yeah, which is an interesting like double cultural Marxist pointer that I hate.
		I hate taking that low road.
		I really do because it is so stupid.
		But also, can I even precurse this saying a son of refugee immigrant parents who fled communism to come here to have a better life?
		So, I mean, like if you take their totem pole of oppression, Antinous is pretty far up there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's not a big difference between Antifa and fascism.
		And I know a lot of people are like, Antifa's the real fascist.
		I'm like, well, you know, they're not nationalistic by any stretch of the imagination.
		So, authoritarian, and like 99.9% of the way there, they're authoritarians who think there's no truth but power.
		They claim to represent poor, marginalized people, but then beat them at a moment's notice and threaten their lives.
		They're mostly white, so they certainly don't believe anything they preach.
		It's all a manipulation tactic to recruit more people into thinking that they're morally
		justified in, say, beating a gay Vietnamese child of immigrants.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		But they're also mostly pansexual and have a lot of mental disorders.
		From talking to a lot of them, there's a lot of also like a proliferation of transgenderism.
		Not disparaging any of these people, just saying they obviously look for people who
		feel isolated, ostracized, who have non-conventional sexual preferences, people who might feel
		like the other or the outside that they couldn't somehow break into society.
		And I know that they prey on these people.
		One of the main Antifa, who, you know, he's one of their main foot soldiers, he's Dustin
		Wheels, and he's actually disabled.
		And at the front line, which is kind of like an iconic picture that I took one time of
		Antifa, and at the front line they have the one black guy with his shirt off.
		I don't know if you've seen that picture.
		And then two people, like transgender people in wheelchairs.
		And it's sort of this pushing the other to the front to make yourself seem like we are
		representing you when really it's just a bunch of poor white people who are choosing.
		So I think, you know, most people who are listening to this probably know a lot about Antifa.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I think that primer is good for maybe people who aren't familiar or who think it's an idea.
		It is a fact.
		Andy Ngo was brutally beaten, now twice, by Antifa.
		They exist.
		They're not an idea.
		They have brand names.
		They have offices.
		They have recruiting meetings.
		They have screeners.
		They have websites.
		And for some reason, you ask, like, the Democrats, like, none of that's true.
		There's no Antifa.
		There's no such thing.
		It's like, bro, there's like an organization out of Portland called Rose City Antifa.
		They actually have like a website.
		They recruit people.
		They have an email address.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Social accounts so you can DM them and talk and get meeting spots.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's not a real thing.
		They have offices in New York.
		Veritas has infiltrated them.
		I think Crowder has infiltrated some of these groups.
		Not all of them use Antifa in their brand name, but many of them do.
		Now, what they're trying to do is manipulate people into thinking, ignore this, there's nothing to see here, ignore the evidence of your eyes and ears, or more importantly, CNN just won't show it.
		One of the reasons Andy's been a major thorn in the side of these leftists is that when they beat him the first time, it forced CNN to actually mention it.
		Oh, O'Brien Stelter gave it a good 10 seconds because he had no choice.
		Like, what do you do?
		Oh no, this guy's just walking around.
		Well, they shifted tactics and Rolling Stone then puts out a piece saying how a right-wing grifter trolled the media.
		That's what they do.
		If you're a journalist on the left, and you lie, and you say all this Russiagate fake news, you're a journalist.
		You deserve a Pulitzer Prize.
		But if you're a conservative, and you go down and say, that guy threw a flaming Molotov cocktail at a police station, they say you're a right-wing troll and grifter.
		Then when you actually start exposing them, they have to smear, they have to lie about you, they have to defame you.
		And that brings us into, I guess, the crux of the actual discussion and debate about field reporting.
		The risks that people face, the appropriate strategy.
		And the first thing I'll say is, For those that aren't familiar with what happened, I was very critical.
		And it was like, I think, you know, I covered the story when it came out.
		We didn't know if it was Andy or not.
		And I was like, I don't see an upside to why Andy would do this, why he would put himself in this local Antifa protest.
		It wasn't major breaking news.
		It wasn't national news.
		I thought he was in London.
		Why would he put himself at risk for this for something that wasn't like, you know, it's like he's covered all of the motives, the modus operandi, the tactics that they've done.
		So I didn't understand.
		You know, what really bothered me was there were a bunch of conservatives, I shouldn't say conservatives, more like anti-woke personalities, a handful, who expressed to me agreement.
		They were like, yeah, there's no way that was Andy.
		He wouldn't do something like that.
		That was reckless.
		And then all of a sudden you get all these people tweeting saying things like, oh, you know, we no longer agree with that view because they found it actually was Andy.
		And even to this day, there have been many people on the right who have expressed privately to me their agreement with my opinion that Andy shouldn't have been down there, and we'll get into the reasons why, but now, publicly, they won't say anything.
		Why?
		Well, for me expressing my opinion, I got, you know, thousands of dislikes on a video, people are saying, I'm unfollowing you, and they're not, they're, they're, leave, no, you know, I'm getting unsubscribed from YouTube and stuff like that.
		People on the right are calling me a grifter, and I'm like, if I was a grifter, I would just pander to y'all and just tell you what you wanted to hear.
		Like, it's not like I'm endearing myself to the left by saying Antifa are psychopaths.
		But there are a lot of people I think who are too scared to actually speak up and express themselves.
		So I'll tell you my thoughts on this, we've expressed it quite a bit, is that Andy's too high profile.
		He is the number one target for Antiva, especially in Portland.
		He is, as I metaphorically described him, a general in the culture war who sent himself down into enemy frontline infantry with no support, no security.
		And then got attacked for it.
		And I said that was reckless and dumb.
		He wouldn't have—I don't think he could have produced any coverage of a local Antifa protest that would have been more than he's covered in the past.
		And if there was something there I'm not familiar with—perhaps he wanted to write a chapter for his book—he could have hired someone and sent them down.
		So there's a lot to break down here.
		There's a lot to get into.
		And for those that aren't familiar, because a lot of people don't seem to understand, I know I'll get flack from this from people being like, here comes Tim stroking his ego.
		But a lot of people are like, Tim has no idea what he's talking about because he just sits in a room.
		For about nine years, I was on the ground at all of these protests across the US.
		I was at the Battle of Berkeley, like two or three of them.
		I was physically attacked like a handful of times.
		I went on Tucker Carlson after Antifa attacked me in Boston.
		And at a certain point, I think I'll agree with Megyn Kelly in her statement, enough is enough.
		You become too famous, people start searching for you, and you're not there covering the story anymore, so you're not really helping people understand what's happening if you are creating a massive ripple by being there.
		So, what can I do?
		Well, I could go down to some of these events, and then what started happening was people would walk up to me on the left and the right.
		And then all of a sudden, I'm like shaking hands and high-fiving people, and I'm like, this is great, I can't do this job anymore.
		It's just not possible.
		I've been to Venezuela.
		I got chased out after I was accused of being a spy.
		I went to Sweden.
		I went to the no-go zones.
		I got chased out and threatened.
	I can't go back to those places.
	You know, it wouldn't make sense for me.
	It wouldn't make sense for James O'Keefe to start trying to infiltrate Planned Parenthood.
	At a certain point, you're famous, and it's time to start leading that charge.
	That was my main criticism, but well, let's open the discussion.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, let's talk about this, because something interesting, too, that I think people forget is that a lot of people grift in the use Field reporting sort of there's this way to get in front of the camera and their ultimate goal is they want to be a host This is very common, right?
		I mean, I'm not claiming Jesse waters or any of these people grifted their way up But they start out as sort of a pundit and they're out in the field and then they move up into their own show I happen to have had a podcast before I went out on the field myself It's always been coinciding.
		My podcast has always been about what I see on the field So there's sort of that duplicity but someone like Andy Andy is not a media personality.
		He's not He's not charismatic.
		He's not out there trying to start his, like, this crazy show.
		He is, in his own right, a bona fide and genuine reporter and journalist and author.
		Yes, I know your point about his self-promotion and whatnot.
		It's still a business model.
		You've got to make money.
		He's independent.
		He's not working for any major network.
		I know that he's partially editing with the Post Millennial, but I know that they don't pay their employees that well, so he can't be making that much money.
		The point being is that when Andy went out that night, arguments could be made that, was it stupid?
		For him?
		Sure.
		It was stupid, but it's stupid for every journalist who would go out, because this is where I tend to disagree.
		People don't realize that Andy wasn't targeted that night, that I believe, because he was Andy Ngo initially.
		He was targeted because he was somebody that was suspiciously recording events, because Antifa have specific rules that nobody can livestream or record their activities.
		Which is why people ask you, well, why don't you bring security?
		Why don't you use a drone?
		Well, anything that shows possible federal intervention, possible law enforcement, makes you a high-risk target, they will disband, they will not act, and they will find a place to go to commit their crimes while you're trying to record and expose the event.
		They will avoid you.
		So with Andy going out there, I just don't... Yeah, you're right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Answer that point.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Didn't you just go cover an Antifa protest?
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Recently, yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You were filming them?
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did they physically attack you?
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why not?
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Uh, because I was had a face covering on and I... Andy did.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		What?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Andy had a face covering on.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Well yeah, what I was gonna say is that with Portland, this is what I'm getting into, with Portland is a very difficult and a tough spot which is how Andy obviously got a platform because a lot of people do not want to record and film Portland and Tifa.
		Might I remind you, too, they do this stuff almost on the nightly.
		And so I think we need to easily discriminate against the fact that initially, Andy was not targeted because he's high profile.
		He was targeted because he was reporting on a group that does not allow reporters to film or record them.
		That is just a definitive fact.
		It's not that if you only have 11 followers, you're gonna have some sort of a getaway.
		Even reporters, I think PDX Media, who's also Asian, who was recording them, who follows their rules, He was recently attacked by them too, because they've gotten to the point where even the journalists that follow their assisted rules, like a lot of journalists do in DC, they're starting to attack them if they record crimes being committed.
		So this isn't an exclusive to people that are high profile, this is reporters, journalists across the board.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We'll come back to that, but you know that Andy does have a podcast.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I do know that.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		But it's, from my understanding, it's verbal though.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's what?
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Like it's mostly audio only.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, he stopped doing it in March of 2020.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it was like 15 episodes.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, and that's what I'm saying is that it's still reporters, journalists have them.
		I'm saying he's not trying to be like this host of a show.
		His heart is in reporting.
		His heart is in journalism.
		And so to me, when you're saying just the argument, I'm just debunking like the initial statement, Is that Andy, I don't believe, was attacked simply because he was Andy.
		I think he would have been attacked regardless.
		I think because he was Andy, he was nearly killed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They didn't attack him right away.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They started asking him questions.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		But they will attack quickly if they realize you are not a reporter or a journalist that is pre-approved and they ask around and they realize you could be some sort of antithesis at any point, shape, or form.
		They will attack you.
		They will break your cameras.
		They will hurt you.
		And I know this because even when I initially documented them when I was low profile, they still gave me a concussion when they realized I wasn't on their side.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And he wasn't filming.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		He was just documenting, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He was marching.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, well, he was recording, like, for his book.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, he was just watching things happen.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		I mean, do we have confirmed that he wasn't recording at all?
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Because I don't... I haven't asked him personally if he's done that yet.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, I guess we'll have to check that out, but I don't think so.
		I mean, that would absolutely give you away in two seconds.
		The moment you walk up with the camera, they'd be like, who are you, what are you doing, and why are you doing it?
		He was marching with them.
		He reportedly had a Black Lives Matter flag over his shoulders, wearing as a cape, and then he was wearing goggles and a mask.
		And my understanding is what happened was, and I think this was his statement, that one guy walked up and started asking him questions.
		Andy said he didn't respond to those questions, so they started interrogating him more, and then someone ran up, pulled his mask off, and yelled, that's Andy, and then he started running.
		So my understanding is the initial targeting was simply because he was out of place.
		Antifa was probably looking for some kind of infiltration, and they found Andy, of all people, like their number one target, and then chased him and beat him.
		And I think it's fairly obvious.
		It's a strange thing that anyone would need to say.
		Of course that shouldn't have happened.
		Of course journalists should be allowed to do it.
		But I find it fascinating, too, especially in this context.
		One of the first responses I got from conservatives was Caitlyn Bennett.
		Well, I guess people are saying she's not a conservative, she's a libertarian.
		She said, quote, you know, she shouldn't have been wearing that miniskirt at night or whatever.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Correct.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And my response is like, yeah, she shouldn't have.
		I don't understand.
		Like, I've never been of the opinion that a woman should walk through a dark alley at night with a miniskirt and not take responsibility for, you know, being reckless or unsafe.
		I've always been of the opinion that personal responsibility starts with you first and foremost.
		So my bigger issue, obviously Antifa is wrong, they're the criminals, they're violent extremists, but why cheer for sending down one of your most prominent and important journalists covering an issue by themselves?
		Why celebrate that?
		Why not just say, hey, start an organization like James O'Keefe did and start hiring reporters to go down and do these things?
		And that's exactly... But how would that change?
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Like, that's my point, is when you see people like Brandon Farley or different people that are out there that go and record, right?
		Even like Katelyn Delmeda quickly found that out when he started reporting for Scriber News.
		You can be a no-name No profile person, the minute that they feel like you are recording them, they feel that's a threat.
		And they think that because... You have to realize, too... But we're not talking about recording.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can infiltrate Antifun, be part of their meetings.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Yes and no they've gotten a lot more organized and it's less hyped from the election to where there's not as much just natural grassroots coalition that they've begun to become more organized I would say in some ways a greater threat in some ways less but they they know who you are and a group like in Portland can quickly find out who's legit and who's not and I've seen this because when I was in Rochester It's usually a riot has about one day where it's chaos and mayhem and by the second or third day Antifa moves in and some of these hot spots they organize they get umbrella lines they have medics that come out and it becomes sort of a leftist resistance.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Some of these more small events are just kind of people walking around breaking windows committing petty crimes and I think what it's come down to is that it's saying how would him like this is where my question is how would Andy hiring journalists Be any less risky to those journalists than Andy recording, because from my experience, those journalists are just as capable as being attacked, especially if they find out they worked for Andy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's do the logical step through.
		There's a journalist hired or contracted by Andy.
		Let's say Andy starts an organization, or any journalist.
		They're there, they're wearing a mask, they're infiltrating Antifa.
		Someone walks up and asks them a question, and they don't answer.
		Then people start surrounding him because this person isn't answering, and then someone pulls the mask off and says, I don't know who that is.
		What happens next?
		Who are you?
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		If they say who are you, they'll probably grab your phone, they'll probably punch you, they'll push you back, they'll quickly surround you, start hitting you with umbrellas, it becomes a mob, they might start macing you in the face, and unless you run for your life and you're able to get away, they'll mob you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So just, you're down there in a black block, you're not filming, you're just infiltrating, and I've never seen that happen.
		Yes!
		I've been physically attacked probably like eight or ten times.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		You don't remember recently they had the fake, okay so there was like a fake white supremacist rally in Portland that somebody trolled Antifa on but people went to go record it was this big deal and pretty much people who were just standing around started getting attacked even if they were just observing because they weren't covered in block and I remember watching this one individual who was who was recording from far away even ran up to the police as people started fleeing Because what happens in TIFA does is they take over
		specific sections of the city.
		So they'll take over, they'll meet at like DuPont Circle in DC, and they'll take it over.
		And the police don't intervene.
		And I think that this is my point, is that the answer that's coming down to me is, was
		it risky for Andy to do what he did?
		Yes.
		Is it incredibly dangerous when you're high profile to do these things?
		Which is why I didn't say you were stupid for saying that this was dangerous or this was crazy.
		It was.
		It was also dangerous, and I'm not comparing this, it's dangerous to do pretty much anything that needs to be done for a nation.
		If you want to talk about something more heroic than reporting, storming Normandy, dangerous.
		also very risky, that's more of a chance of death than let's say reporting.
		But even if you're gonna be a whistleblower, if you're gonna leak for your company
		and your risk is just losing your job, I mean inherently if you're doing any work
		that requires bravery or requires some form of making an impact, there's usually some sort
		of a high risk involved.
		And I think Andy knows and assumed that risk from talking to him, but I also believe that
		with the idea that he had talked about being a political refugee, I know there's truth,
		that is true, I know that he did not believe he was in the United States, and the fact
		that he was covered, his face, he obviously miscalculated the mitigated risk, so he did, he ended up
		paying the consequences, but I don't know how that somehow means, so we'd say,
		well then hey, less experienced journalists go?
		Because I would tell you from having experience, you're just as likely to be harmed in the same way.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're looking for Andy, they want to kill him.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Yes!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it did really well, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		and airs like I don't know this guy is and I don't like you go home dude get
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		out of here yes there's truth to that so I'll concede that Andy just wrote a book
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think I think it hit number one on Amazon for for it I think it did really
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		well yeah I don't did it hit number one I don't know I think for I don't know
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		how that works because I think so many people I don't know I just know that he, it did really well.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I just, I just, you know, look, I've worked at a lot of different places.
		Well, I shouldn't say a lot.
		I've worked at like two or two different places doing journalistic endeavors aside from my own company.
		So three or four.
		And there are certain stories where they tell you, you can't cover this.
		So like when I worked at Vice, they were like, hey, we've got a story about a bunch of Muslim
		women who were raped in these different areas by these revolutionaries.
		And they were like, you can't do it.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		And I was like, is that what you when you said when you said that to hear region square?
		Yeah.
		Were you talking about Laura Logan getting like?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, but I mean, that happened to her.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It happened to a bunch of women.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		But I think people also thought that was a dig, too.
		I don't think I'm allowed to say the R word on your stream, right?
		Probably, though.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		I wasn't talking about Laura.
		I'm saying people thought that that was a jab like that's what I
		From talking to people, it came across like, look what could happen when you make the risk, making light of it, and then saying it was unbelievably stupid.
		This is what I think where people misunderstood you, and I'm being honest.
		Because these people don't understand the greater... I think people thought it was more of just a slight on somebody else rather than coming across just like, hey, Andy, we're all concerned for you.
		Don't be a dumb idiot.
		Actually try to do what's right and protect yourself, please, because you can afford to probably hire somebody else.
		Maybe that's what you meant, but from what I'm seeing from what people got from your messages, it seemed like a slight at people.
		That's what I'm reading in the comments.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a fact.
		In Tahrir Square, men were just like gang-raping women.
		That's crazy.
		That's so insane.
		woman. It was like dozens of women. That's crazy. There was a reporter from the Netherlands who was
		sent in and got grabbed by a bunch of men and they shoved their hands down her pants and everything
		and I said that's insane. So I was doing hostile environment training because ABC makes you do it
		and you get all these arrogant journalists.
		There's a weather guy, and he was like, I know how to handle myself in gunfire.
		And I'm like, you're a weatherman, dude.
		You have no idea what you're talking about.
		I'm not even gonna pretend to know.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Who are you, weather boy?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But what was funny was when we were talking about, they did this scenario where they made us drive to a checkpoint.
		And we're all in these, we're in two SUVs when all of a sudden a bunch of guys surround us with a bunch of different guns and start firing them while the, they were blanks obviously, and then they make us all get out at gunpoint, we all get on our knees, we lay down on the ground, they go through us one by one taking all our belongings and then all of a sudden they grab all the women, pick them up and carry them off into a barn, drag them off into a barn where we hear all the women screaming.
		So all the men are sitting there hearing the woman scream and the guy with the gun say get in your vehicles and leave and then started laughing and making sexual suggestive gestures and things like that.
		So we go back to the main headquarters and we walk in and we all sit down and then a few minutes later all the women come back in and then the guy who's like this fan like this this like you know former high-ranking MI5 or whatever British intelligence goes.
		These things happen when you're out there, and you need to understand that what you experience could happen to you.
		And someone asked, like, what do we do in that situation when they take all the women?
		And he was like, sometimes there's nothing you can do.
		And then someone said, is this something only women have to be worried about?
		And this was the funniest part because, you know, running a corporation in the United States, you have discrimination laws.
		So he immediately was like, well, I mean, Men get raped, too.
		Men can get raped.
		You know, it happens.
		It does.
		But let's be real, man.
		If you're going into an area where they specifically target women for sexual abuse and slavery, then maybe it makes sense not to send women to certain areas.
		I'll give you a physical, I'll give you a real-world example.
		A Vice reporter went to, I think Algeria was the story, and she was told, you cannot legally go down to the football stadium, soccer stadium, because you're a woman, and this country doesn't allow it.
		And she said, I can do it if I want.
		She did.
		Of course, she got assaulted and abused, and then she sued Vice over it.
		It just doesn't make sense to send James O'Keefe into Planned Parenthood.
		It doesn't make sense to send an Israeli Hasidic Jew into Gaza to report.
		There are certain things people don't understand about security and being able to get the job done and report on what's going on.
		And sometimes, you have to recognize, I went to Sweden.
		I went to the quote-unquote no-go zones.
		I went to one place where I was escorted out.
		I went back shortly after, undercover.
		We walked around, nothing happened, we had no issues.
		It was relatively different.
		You know, I went to Venezuela.
		This was where they singled me out by name.
		I had to flee the country.
		Of course, Vice wanted me to make the story about myself.
		I said, stay there, Tim.
		Be it, make the story, oh, Tim Poole's flight from Venezuela.
		I said no.
		Got on the plane very quietly, flew back, and breathed a sigh of relief that I wasn't going to be arrested and put into Venezuelan prison.
		So, I've been covering all of this stuff for the past 10 years.
		I was on the ground in Boston, Antifa attacked me, I was in Occupy Wall Street when the Black Bloc extremists physically attacked me over and over again.
		And early on, they weren't prominent or powerful.
		They were very weak, actually.
		Regular leftist or liberal activists really hated them in a lot of ways because they were disruptive, but they had this thing where they said, we must respect the diversity of tactics.
		Well, as they become increasingly more violent and the far-left extremists gain more and more control, it started to get more and more difficult for me to even go anywhere.
		When I was in Berkeley, I was just skateboarding, not during any of these protests.
		It was like a day or two before, and I had some far-lefty dudes actually threaten me, and some guy gets in between, he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, get out of, you know, like, this guy's in my face, he's yelling at me saying, you're that, you're that Trump guy!
		And then this guy walks up and he goes, are you a Trump supporter?
		This is back in 2017 or 2018.
		I was like, no.
		And he goes, all right, you're cool, man.
		Leave him alone.
		Like, how is it that I'm even just skateboarding around and these guys are threatening me?
		What good am I going to be able to do personally if I just go down here and what happens is they point at me, run over and start attacking me.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Did you see that guy the other night who was just out on a date, ended up in jail for like seven hours because he happened to be in the crosshairs of police rounding up some sort of civil unrest?
		And he was on a date and ended up going to jail as a provocateur.
		And that is to a valid point.
		But I also want to say this about taking proper precaution.
		Like, you can get targeted for a variety of reasons while reporting on the ground.
		For instance, you can get... I've been targeted based off of race, like you mentioned earlier.
		You can get racial targeting that has nothing to do with your profile.
		You get targeted because you look like someone they think that they know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like when they attacked that guy who wasn't Andy Ngo.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Yes!
		My point is that you look like someone, You can get attacked simply because somebody's having a bad day and you're a target, but ultimately what I want to bring down to this is that the reason why I hate even blaming Andy is because you would think that America, like I said, is a serious country, and the reason how this is even possible
		When Andy went into that 9's hotel, which is a very nice hotel, by the way.
		It's at least a 4-star hotel.
		I've stayed there before.
		I had a generous donor who booked me a hotel there.
		It's really nice.
		People don't know this, too, that the ABC journalists who cover that stuff, that's where they stay, and they all ride first class.
		And they lied to me on the plane, ABC did.
		They tried to pretend like they weren't reporters and tried to find out where I was from and why I was recording.
		And then it turned out I found out they were ABC just doing weird leftist sketchy stuff, as always.
		Uh, but when I, but I, knowing that hotel, it's like that hotel, the first thing they were concerned about when Andy walked in or ran in was that he had, didn't have a mask on.
		And he was like, this is what I'm saying, how backwards these places are.
		Like there's clearly an altercation, but this has become so a part of Portland life that somebody running into your hotel away from a crazy black block mob is like your first concern isn't the mob or the person being attacked.
		It's the fact that they're not wearing a mask.
		This is where I'm saying why this is so effed up though.
		And then it's like, well, you got to get out.
		And it's like, clearly you're going to throw this person to the wolves.
		But this city, the hotel, and these people get sick of it.
		You're trying to operate a four-star hotel, and you see that these black bloc people are walking around with immunity for well over a couple years now.
		I mean, a couple get arrested as pity.
		Then you have this stupid attorney general, you know, and these people who come out there in the city, and they redefine what crime is based off of intent.
		And you end up having a system where police no longer want to police because they don't want to risk their lives because if they get in the way and intervene and make an arrest there'll be no prosecution the people will get out immediately and so everyone's left to fend for themselves and so while the reason why i was like kind of not shocked by what you said because i don't give a crap like meaning if people have different opinions but it's like this idea of making it seem almost as if andy was asking for it i don't think that's entirely true i think the system itself
		to blame because I don't think whether it's Andy or a small journalist the fact
		that it's I believe equally unsafe for every journalist that is not in line
		with them not not to the extreme once they find you they might hurt you harder
		if you're somebody who they disagree with but the fact that this is okay that
		it's tolerated that we've become accustomed to this I always say this if
		Andy wasn't gonna do this we just had this whole slew of people who were
		documenting these crimes and Andy's just being some puffed-up egotistical POS and
		is walking around going well I for my fame and my grift I need to be the one
		to record fine I see the point but I don't see anyone else stepping up to the
		plate that isn't a complete wussy I mean shoot when you go down here to DC I was
		set I was undercover there well people tell people hey you can't record you
		gotta understand the rules that they have and that's the problem is like
		where are the good journalists that actually could do the job in his place
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		and Andy asked to come on this show earlier this year to promote his book
		but he was in London for his safety.
		He asked again, and he wanted us to review his book, and I reached out to him recently.
		He hasn't gotten back to me, but he did want to come on this show.
		I bring that up.
		He wasn't in the country.
		He wasn't able to do it.
		We couldn't do it.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		He definitely was in the UK, in his own words, a political refugee.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Richie McGinnis, Drew Hernandez, you know, the Riot Squad, Shelby Talcott, Jorge Ventura.
		They come down here almost every single time they cover a major riot.
		Richie McGinnis came here after Kenosha happened.
		And he gave us the eyewitness breakdown of what happened.
		It's one of the most viewed clips we've ever done.
		It's like 1.4 or 5 million views.
		And then he goes right back into it.
		He didn't flee the country for his safety.
		Why?
		Andy Ngo has 850,000 followers on Twitter, and they're targeting him.
		So if I'm looking for a good view on the ground, we've got four... There's a couple other people who have been on the ground as well that we had on the show, but the Riot Squad has been at every single major protest, and the only reason I know about these protests is because of, for the most part, Richie McInnes.
		And the rest of the Riot Squad for sure, but I mean, he's the guy who goes down there and then comes here and says, yo, here's what happened and talks about it.
		Obviously, I can't go down there because I'd probably just get shot in the face or beat to a pulp.
		So what can I do?
		Well, for the time being, until we launch the newsroom, we've been trying to do this for some time, we can just bring people onto the show to shed a light on what's going on.
		That's what we're doing.
		Why?
		Well, I get substantially more views doing this show, and I can't go on the ground because I wouldn't be able to be there for five hours filming.
		Richie can.
		Then he can come on the show and say, here's what happened.
		He doesn't have the same kind of threats against him, and he does, but he doesn't have the same kinds of threats against him that I do.
		So if I go down there within ten minutes, entire stream is shut down, ineffective.
		Right.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		But you have to also realize this too.
		For instance, I've only been covering riots since about 2018 and that's so sad as a country that you could say that.
		You can make a career from covering riots.
		I didn't intentionally mean to make that what even my podcast was about.
		It's called conflict report. Yeah, it was but it wasn't made to be I mean
		I've always wanted to be a wartime reporter to some degree But I but I just understand that like when I met Richie on
		the field Richie had less than a thousand followers on Twitter, and I
		don't know what his current status is, but I'm sure it's big
		I'm sure it's at least in the tens of thousands Maybe wait maybe more and a lot of these guys when I met
		them also didn't have Much of a following except maybe Julio Rosas
		Was probably the one person who had a was with town hall and was like had a pretty standing
		Even Shelby was new and starting out.
		I remember talking, she's like, yeah, I want to be a reporter.
		I got out of school.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now she's in the White House, right?
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Yes, which is crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So at a certain point, you can't be on the ground anymore.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's a shelf life for reporters in conflict.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		So I would say that I, this is what I would say, I'd say that there are reporters who do stay in conflict, like you're saying, that do have increased security.
		This is a new road that's being pioneered.
		I think a lot of people, like I said, use reporting to get the job that they want because I think generals are made in the trenches.
		I don't think that's a grift per se.
		I think that it understands that there's a lot of ways to prove yourself in a business.
		If you're in stocks, make a good investment for your clients and make the company a lot of money, show that you were able to take the risk and the reward.
		If you want to be in media, when you show people that you're not just in it for the money, you work for no money, and put your life on the line to get footage other people wouldn't, it says something about your character that I think is important and gives you opportunities in other areas.
		I don't think that Andy's end goal is to get somewhere.
		I think that he really cares passionately about covering and documenting Antifa.
		I think this is going to be a rude wake-up call for him, but I also don't think he's trying to get somewhere.
		And I mean that seriously, because people always ask me, it's like, Well, why don't you, why don't you report still?
		Well, that's a good question.
		I do sometimes, but obviously things in our country have really genuinely changed.
		I mean, this is where I'll just concede some points to you is I got your concerns.
		Like, bro, what the F?
		Like I get that point of like, bro, you were a mega person.
		Like they will murder you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I believe- You literally just published a bestselling book about them.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		I believe he could have died that night.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Their threats aren't veiled with false backing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Where would we be in terms of knowledge about Antifa if Andy just all of a sudden his Twitter account was gone?
		All of his reporting, all of the things he's written for the New York Post, for the Wall Street Journal, just gone.
		Overnight.
		Like clearly what he's doing is important.
		So the problem I have ultimately, and the reason this escalates beyond me just like putting out a tweet being like, that was dumb.
		And then a bunch of people start tweeting about it, it's like, man, the left is really good at this.
		They're really good at this, they're willing to sacrifice their own, they're willing to burn down and destroy their own cities to get what they want, and their tactics work because they have control of cultural institutions.
		But right now, you have people on the right celebrating, like, a strategic failure.
		You know, a serious risk to, uh, to the coverage, to exposing what these people do.
		And they're happy about it.
		You know, so I, someone tweeted, someone posted on my Instagram, they were like, you know, you're spineless or whatever.
		You, you tell people to have spines, but then criticize Andy, and I'm like, bro, having a spine doesn't mean to be dumb!
		Like James O'Keefe.
		I recently said that dude's got too many spines.
		He's gonna have to get back surgery to fix his back because he's one of the only people fighting.
		But he's not going into these organizations anymore.
		He hired people to do it.
		He has a network of undercover reporters because he's famous.
		But I do want to go back to one point.
		Mm-hmm.
		You were mentioning, like, another thing a lot of people brought up is, this is America.
		Like, that's the point, Tim.
		You were talking about Venezuela and Egypt.
		Don't you see how big of a problem this is?
		Yes, of course.
		I talk about it, like, endlessly.
		Talk about it almost every single day.
		But I've never ascribed the belief that women should just walk through dark alleys at night with miniskirts and take no responsibility for putting themselves in dangerous situations.
		It's always been the left that said men should just not You know, assault women.
		And I'm like, that's true and correct, yes.
		And also, considering that men do, and there are, you know, bad people, rapists, we'll just say it.
		I don't care what YouTube thinks of the algorithm.
		Considering they exist, shouldn't women have a gun?
		Yes, they should.
		Because sometimes bad things happen.
		So, yeah, I get it.
		Andy should be able to go around without a mask on and just film and be like, yeah, I'm gonna stand here and report what I see.
		And he should be allowed to put on a mask and try and get an undercover view of what they're doing.
		But there's reality.
		There's strategy.
		And there's a path towards victory.
		If we sacrifice all of our high-profile individuals for these one-offs where they can go and walk into the fray of... These Antifa people are the bottom of the barrel in terms of useful idiots for the far left.
		They're not high-profile individuals.
		They're not Ibram X. Kendi or, you know, Sean King.
		They're not high-profile in any capacity.
		They have nothing to lose.
		They could go to prison, and they wouldn't care.
		They're probably not going to, but they don't care.
		Andy, no.
		If he stops reporting, then a good portion of the coverage is just gone.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		They would care, and I think this is important, is that this is the point, is that they don't care because there are no repercussions.
		And I know your point is saying, yeah, so then should there be repercussions?
		Sure.
		But are there?
		No.
		So we have to deal with the reality, not with the hyperbole of what we wish the world was, some utopia.
		But this also brings up just the greater threat that I think is very interesting is that you could say maybe that he was being risky or naive but also remember the guy has a British accent.
		I don't think his number one loyalty is like just to the United States.
		I think he cares about covering far-left extremism.
		He used to cover Islamic extremism before and then he switched to this other form of extremism which he saw obviously breeding in the city that he lived in.
		He was one of the first to really begin to document this up close in that city and consistently stay with it.
		And I think that when it comes to with Andy specifically recording this, I think he did underestimate them.
		John Hacker, who's the guy who helped ID him, he's a burn victim.
		And this is my point about people, this is not you to be making fun of, you know, deformed people.
		This is not me exactly saying what it is.
		Someone like John Hacker, who I've had long-term conversations with, is a probably 6'3", 6'4", heavyset, borderline obese, Burn victim, whose face was melted off, has no nose, stubbed fingers, clearly somebody who would probably face scrutiny, rejection, sadly, in society.
		He has a very important role for Rose City Antifa.
		And if he's watching this, he probably even watches your show sometimes, he's a pretty level-headed dude.
		And I'm saying this, and I know that, because people are cruel.
		And if you look like that, people are not going to offer you certain jobs, they're not going to let you into society.
		And this guy now works with Antifa, who is an idea per se, as people say, not a group, but he
		somehow is their doxer.
		And his goal at events is to find people who are other and to attack them, which is why
		I said that the profile isn't as important as just not being aligned.
		And I know this because what had happened over time is that, like myself included, is
		that I've always been very strategic in what I cover and what I don't cover based off of
		how much I can contribute by being there.
		And I weigh that heavily.
		And I mean this honestly.
		When people ask me, well, why didn't you cover this?
		Or why didn't you cover that?
		I would say, well, like, why wasn't I, you know, at this protest?
		Well, there was an act—they were searching for me before I went.
		I had spoken to the police, the police asked me not to come.
		There was, I was going to go, I ended up having friends that went, got the exact same footage.
		And the police said it was a risk reward wasn't there.
		It just wasn't, they just go, we can't guarantee your protection,
		and we have reason to believe that they will kill you if you enter into the property.
		So I mean, I do take precautions.
		But I also have taken risks as well, heavy risks in a lot of different areas.
		I mean, even just before the Capitol stuff that happened, I was just in DC.
		There was just, they wanted to assassinate me, and the FBI asked me not to come back to the city for some time because of the active threat of assassination.
		And I still came back because the story of what was happening then was big enough that it was worth risking my life.
		And that's where I think the question was coming, which is a valid point of yours, is that Does Andy realize how influential he is, how big he is, and the risk-reward when people always say, well, why aren't you covering Portland nightly terrorists?
		I go, bro, exactly what happened to Andy will happen to me if I go out there.
		People don't realize I'm like a six foot two white guy of a pretty decently, even with this gas mask on, they always find me.
		It's hard to blend in.
		Okay?
		It just is.
		And I think Andy might've miscalculated how Easily identifiable he was even with coverings on
		Simply because the fact that he's Asian and I guess you could call it a hate crime
		Because I would say that they probably do target people because they're Asian hoping that they're gonna find Andy
		No, we've seen this as a reoccurring fact. They did find him and if you see the footage, it's actually
		Freaks me out like their blood curdling like And they're like you're such a little bitch and like like
		we're gonna beat you up and it's like bro He's not a BITC H like you literally are gonna beat you
		like they're yelling expletives and whatever we did it could even censor it on my show because it was
		just so much cursing and We get down into it and you realize
		Yeah, Andy is shaken from this.
		I think Andy... People don't realize what... I think what threw me off is that I don't think he was trying to be the story.
		And I just don't think that that criticism that people have like, oh, he was... He's made it about him.
		I don't think that that is his intention at all from speaking to him.
		And I don't believe this has become a reality TV about Andy.
		And I don't think he'll ever... I don't think he'll ever be back after this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Before he issued a statement, he already booked his appearance on Fox News.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Did he book it or did they book him?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, they booked him, whatever. Before, like, within 10 minutes of his tweet, he was on.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Are you talking about Laura? Laura Ingram?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Laura Ingram. So, you know.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		But what are you saying by that? I mean, like, what do you mean?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying that his recent tweets have been about his encounter and his interaction and
		what happened to him, and he's the story. Whether it's by choice or not, whether there's anything
		he can do about it, I think he's in a position now where he, here's what happened to me,
		here's what I have to talk about.
		That's it.
		That's the story.
		And there are a lot of conservatives who knew.
		I didn't know this.
		I only found out after the fact.
		I only found out the moment Andy tweeted that there's a bunch of conservatives who knew it was Andy and basically had a tacit agreement not to say anything to give him the opportunity.
		And I think that's wrong.
		If I had known the moment this attack happened that it was Andy, I'd have just said it was Andy.
		But I didn't know that.
		So I just, you know, gave my opinion and my thoughts based on what I knew at the time.
		A bunch of conservatives knew, a bunch of journalists knew, and they purposefully didn't say anything.
		Why?
		Because it's tribalism.
		They wouldn't extend that benefit to any of these mainstream media journalists, and the mainstream media journalists wouldn't extend that benefit to any conservative at all.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		This is gonna sound mean, but actually at first I didn't think it was Andy because the guy looked thinner than I knew Andy was last time I saw him.
		So I was like, I think another person wrote the same thing, like, that could be Andy, but that's not how I remember Andy looking.
		And so I remember Andy just having more weight on him, thinking that's...
		And I didn't want to get into that whole all Asians look alike thing where it's like, yeah, it's probably Andy because I just was like, I'm not going to get into this.
		I did message Andy multiple times and was like, Hey, legitimately speaking, is this you?
		And I didn't find out till like right before he was issuing his statement.
		And then I asked him if he would, which is actually a great thing to come on to my show
		and to talk about the statement and have a real discussion because I'm like, rather than
		just trying to get some Twitter fame, would you come on and discuss this?
		I know he's limiting his appearances right now from what he said, but when it comes to
		booking the thing, I mean, the guy still has to make a living.
		And I mean, you understand, too.
		It's just like when people ask, why do you put an ad in your show or something?
		I mean, he is independent.
		He's not getting paid for this just for whatever.
		And there probably are a lot of medical expenses in regards to this.
		So I haven't seen a GoFundMe or anything that he's raising, so I'm sure he's financially
		independent.
		And I don't think it's wrong for somebody to be like, OK, well, I'm going to make the
		most out of this since this was a really crappy situation.
		At least I'm going to shed some light on the fact that, yes, this is what I do.
		I'm not faking it.
		I actually do try my best.
		I put myself into these situations.
		But I do think, too, that the tribalism came simply because there has been, on the left, an attack on people who are not left-wing reporters.
		Like, they don't even accept Andy Ngo as being a journalist at any point ever.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, uh, I'll first preface by saying nobody owes me their time at all.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But, uh, why do you think it is Andy hasn't responded to my DMs or my requests for him to come on the show?
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		That's a good question.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he hasn't responded to some of mine, too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Hassan?
		I mean, yeah, but he's tweeting, he's active on Twitter.
		He was messaging me over the past few months.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		He told me he's recovering and he's just limiting appearances.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But you were talking to him?
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I have limited conversations in terms of why he wouldn't be appearing.
		I know I did talk to him after his statement after I read it and really got into detail and asked him
		How he's doing and what's going on the same way when you wrote your tweets?
		I rather than bothering you I messaged your producer or whatever and was like yo, we should talk about this because
		i'm not into the bs Theatrics of just making things like online people realize
		we know each other We I would say I would say friends in the fact that there's
		mutual respect And so these are real people.
		Andy knows not a character in a movie.
		And so, yeah, I'm going to reach out to him and really try to find out.
		But also too, I mean, like I'd consider myself to be close friends with Andy to a regard because I respect, I've respected him over the years.
		For a while out of protest, it was just me and Andy at some of these things.
		So I, you know, developed the friendship there, even though he's, you know, I'm a lot further right than he is in terms of politically speaking.
		Uh, but I mean, if he doesn't respond to go on your show, I mean- Even just saying- I mean, look- Are you saying that it's because- He doesn't owe me time or responsibility.
		No, I know, but are you saying it's because- Because anything other than the fact that he's recovering and limiting, like, appearances?
		Because I even invited him up to my house and he even said no, because- He responded.
		Well, I called him, like physically called his phone and was like, he didn't respond to any messages, but I physically called him and was like, hey, could you come over?
		And he was like, I'm honestly, I am recovering and I'm just like, I can see you in a couple of weeks.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's an absolutely fair point.
		I mean, the dude's seriously injured.
		He probably doesn't want to hop on a plane.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		I invited him to the studio too and he declined.
		When I asked him, I was like, do you want to come on my show?
		Like, I'll bring you out.
		And he was like, later, I'm really limiting appearances and I'm just trying to recover and get things done.
		So I mean like, and I was disappointed too, because God knows I would have loved Andy here, because that would have been fantastic.
		And I don't mean to disparage Andy in this, but that's what people don't understand about Andy.
		Andy is a very meek little gay Asian dude.
		Like when you meet Andy, it's not like me or you, where you're like, oh, this person's high strung.
		Whoa, they're in my face.
		Like, whoa, this person's got a lot of energy.
		Andy's just like, hello, I'm Andy Ngo.
		Am I bothering you in your house?
		And you're like, Oh, this isn't some like aggressive journalist who's like mean and like this guy is a tender, gentle person.
		And I can see why he gets so shaken up when he gets attacked, because I don't think he even has it in him to fight back.
		I don't think he's a violent person.
		That's why I always get nervous.
		I'm like, bro, why don't you carry a gun?
		Like, why don't you carry a knife or something?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, I carry it.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, I mean, where it's legal to carry, I carry.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You know, my fear with Andy is he got so famous when he got the milkshake thrown at his head with cement in it or something, so famous from that injury, that now in the drug world, they call it chasing the dragon.
		You're always looking for your next big high.
		And you remember how you got your last one, so you try and re-replicate it.
		And so even if it's subconsciously, he's allowing himself to get hurt for the publicity.
		I don't know about that.
		I don't know.
		He got really famous after getting hurt last time, and he got really famous this time again.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		He got effed up the first time, though, to be honest.
		The brain hemorrhaging.
		I know they say that there was no cement in the milkshakes, and I have no idea what the truth is about any of this stuff because I've heard all sides.
		All I know is he did have a lot of medical expenses, and I did verify those because that's kind of how I met him, was just what actually happened the first time.
		And I don't think this is comparable to the first time in terms of actual long-term damage.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the first time he was in a big public protest with a bunch of regular journalists and cops during the day, and they just started beating the crap out of him.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They knew him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		They've been, they've been, it's because of that one instance, they said that he was working with the Proud Boys.
		And so I know, but they say, they just, just like they say, he sends Killis to Atomwaffen.
		You've heard that one.
		That's why they don't like him now, because they say he works with white supremacists and he, and he sends them Killis of Antifa and gets them killed.
		And that's actually what they hate him for now.
		And if you go around, they pass out flyers that Andy Ngo works with Atomwaffen, which I can verify is false.
		And Andy Ngo never sent Killis to a supremacist group.
		Why would an Asian guy?
		Work with these kinds of people.
		I it doesn't make sense logically, but also fictitiously speaking.
		It's the boogeyman thing Do you know how much they hate doing here this they hate Andy so much.
		This is really interesting.
		I went I I went undercover just to do what he did, to go attend a big rally, a counter-rally against Proud Boys up in Portland.
		I just do this to monitor situations, and it's a luxury that has been afforded to me working with BlazeTV.
		It's been a good show, Slightly Offensive has been doing well, and I'm really grateful for the support, and I've been able to travel, and go places, and observe.
		And I went to this big rally at a park.
		And I don't think people know how much they hate this dude.
		Someone on the microphone, and we're talking about maybe 1,200 people, 800 to 1,200 people, BlackBlock.
		That's how many people attend these things.
		was like, just said Andy Ngo's name, and it was the largest collective boo I have heard in a long time.
		It's a cult.
		Everyone's like, boo!
		And people are yelling, kill him!
unidentified		Boo!
unidentified		Kill Andy Ngo!
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		And like, I'm going, I started looking around, I'm like, if they only knew I was here, and that every Riot Squad member is here right now in, like, blog hanging out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bro, many of them don't know who Andy Ngo is other than his name, which is why they attacked random Asian people thinking it was Andy.
		I was at a Cernovich speech in New York and one person, I was just standing in the middle of the crowd of all these people filming, and then one guy yells, that's Tim Poole, don't let him film you.
		And they all looked around confused because they don't know anything.
		It's a cult, man.
		They just follow the leader.
		So then, all of a sudden, some random, like, leftist walks up to some old man wearing a vest, who's a photographer, and starts yelling, YOU'RE THE PROBLEM, YOU'RE THE REASON, blah blah blah, and screaming at him, and the old guy's like, shrugging like, I-I-I don't understand.
		I thought it was hilarious, cause they didn't know who Tim Poole was, other than someone said Tim Poole bad.
		And then it was funny when some guy, the guy then, no, no, no, not him, him.
		And he points at me, you know what I did?
		I just turned and looked around like, where, where is he?
		And then finally he's like him and he walked over and then they surrounded me.
		Started saying thing like you're Cernovich's friend and all this stuff.
		And I'm like, I don't even know the guy.
		And then some woman, I back away from the crowd and I'm just standing there filming.
		And some young, like 20 year old blonde woman goes to security and starts
		making a bunch of crazy stuff about me.
		She's like, this guy has been sending our names to white supremacist groups.
		He's trying to get us killed.
		They're coming and looking for us.
		And they're like, I don't know what you're talking about.
		Fortunately for me, I have a bunch of press credentials, and I was like, ma'am, none of that's true.
		And I, like, show her my creds, and she's like, I'm so sorry.
		But that's that's that's it.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		They do make it up.
		I will say I will say that that is that is the best tactic and kind of what I was talking
		about people not being trained.
		Like I think one of my favorite things is I actually grabbed a microphone when they
		started yelling fascists go home.
		I actually took the microphone from the guy and started yelling it with him like fascists
		go home and they actually and it's like it's on video and I'm like yelling at it was about
		me and it was like fascists go home and it just everyone calmed down because it became
		very confusing now.
		Yeah, no one knows who sue and it's like why is this guy now yelling?
		I guess we got confused.
		But I mean like yes, I want to I just want to bring this up with this now having happened I know that a lot of people saw the possibility.
		They saw people like you early on.
		They saw people like Andy, like myself, people who were reporting that were blowing up, that were getting jobs and careers and working in media over going to these events, over documenting things in conflict.
		This is not the first time this has happened.
		This has happened for decades and decades in the media.
		And a lot of people during the Trump era sort of were like, oh, I can do that too, right?
		I'm just going to grab my phone and I'm going to film, which is totally great.
		I'm so glad people want to get out there and they want to document and they want to film things.
		I think a lot of people quickly find out the mitigated risks are high, and the reward is very low up front.
		The chances of your footage actually being seen by a lot of people relies on it being shared and retweeted.
		The monetary exchange is next to none, unless you're good at negotiating for rights to your footage.
		And also, on top of that, the physical risk of going there and getting beat up and hurt either by police... I always remind people, my worst injury doing this was from DHS, not from... Department of Homeland Security is the one who's hurt me the worst.
		Not actually Antifa.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What was the situation?
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		It was at the federal courthouse and they just shot with a gas powered like point-blank with a like whatever flash being in my shin and just cracked open my shin my leg and just it was just really gross and pussy and bloody and this is just end up on the floor in the middle of riot.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		This is the biggest issue I'm having with the situation is the young new people that are inspired and want to get a camera and go out there and the Basically, it's like a divulgence between idealism and pragmatism, or idealism and realism.
		Like, the idealism is journalists should be able to go there and do their thing and not get hurt.
		I get it.
		Babies shouldn't starve to death.
		People should be able to lay in the jungle and live forever, but they don't.
		If you go into the wrong place, you'll get killed.
		That's the reality.
		And the idealism fails there.
		So if these young people come up and they think that idealism is what's going to get them there, they're going to find themselves in situations where they get hurt.
		And I really want Andy to understand that.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		I mean... Jay Daniels, right?
		He got shot.
		Uh, I mean he's going there to like rally and just like to piss them I mean, I'm not not accusing anything I'm saying just kind of go in there to be a part of this this this thing And he ends up actually losing his life from from this BLM Antifa guy who ends up Aaron Danielson Yeah, yeah, but I think it was like nickname was J. Oh, yeah, like JJ.
		Yeah.
		Yeah, but he I mean people like you're saying that like the risk people end up dead Badly hurt and you see people.
		I mean, I've seen people really damaged I always wonder what happens to certain people.
		Like I've just seen people bleeding out on the floor going what happened to that guy?
		Yeah, and I mean and I mean this seriously because Kaylin the other did you see in LA?
		How they got him and they gave they concussed him.
		They beat the living snot Kaylin Delmanda from Scriber.
		You've had him on your show.
		Yeah.
		But BLM and Antifa mobbed him in Los Angeles a few weeks ago, really hurt him pretty badly.
		And he wasn't really doing anything.
		They just saw him talk to someone that they said was somebody he shouldn't have talked
		to.
		And so then they beat him up over who he just spoke to.
		And that's my point about people who don't understand.
		Like, you might even just talk to the wrong person on the scene and you end up a victim.
		Because while Kaylen has profile, Kaylen is by no means, I would say, high profile.
		And that's not bad.
		That's actually to his advantage.
		But just, just having that risk of not knowing that he spoke to the wrong person led him in grave danger.
		And I would say lucky to be alive.
		Cause if you hear on the video footage, when he's getting beat up, they're basically saying, brother, you're lucky to be alive.
		Cause if, if this were any other day, we would kill you.
		And we're not doing that because we're going to let you go, but you better leave.
		And nobody cared.
		Nobody came to his, he's not, he's a nonpartisan reporter too.
		He works for Scriber.
		It's like they even have a meter where you can rate their articles
		if they're too liberal or too conservative, and they add adjustments and corrections.
		I mean, the guy's not partisan, and this is how they treat somebody who's out there.
		So, I mean, that's where I just get into this idea of connecting with Andy, is like,
		I don't know if this guerrilla journalism is really a thing, and also, I don't really know if it's safe anymore
		in these cities, and I don't know if I would encourage people.
		And I don't know if I would encourage people.
		I used to encourage them, pick up your phone, pick up your camera and go film.
		I used to encourage them, pick up your phone, pick up your camera, and go film,
		and now I'm like, I don't know if I'm gonna get sued for saying that because of the liability
		And now I'm like, I don't know if I'm gonna get sued for saying that because the liability
		of watching my friends get hurt, watching people get injuries.
		of watching my friends get hurt, watching people get injuries, and quite frankly,
		And quite frankly, the best way to not get hurt now is probably just to be black.
		the best way to not get hurt now is probably just to be black,
		And I would say that probably your best chance is black, except my producer, Savannah Hernandez,
unidentified		and I would say that probably your best chance is black, really know if it's safe anymore in these cities.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		got jumped reporting in Austin really badly and got her phone stolen and everything.
		And she's half Filipina, half Hispanic, and she looks more Asian than Mexican.
		And she's a girl.
		And so it's like, I don't even know anymore.
		I'm like, Andy's Asian, gay.
		Like, I'm like, maybe if you're just a big black dude, they won't mess with you.
		Maybe, like, I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I wanna move on to the story because I'll put it this way.
		For those that are just tuning in that are able to, because the internet was struck by lightning.
		And a lot of people are like, let me let me help with your network.
		It's like it's not a networking problem.
		It's like the line that literally goes to the pole that carries out the fiber optic signal is struck by lightning.
		But anyway, I digress.
		Um, you know, we're talking about journalists going on the ground and the safety of those journalists, what makes sense for them.
		And maybe it's time to stop acting like we're talking about protests.
		Maybe it's time to start acting like you are going into a war zone across enemy lines, quite literally.
		If these are people who have killed This guy in Portland is dead.
		He was killed by a guy with a big red salute on his neck, the Black Lives Matter communist symbol, it's the red salute.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Shot a guy in the chest, killed him.
		If we know that we are involved in what people have called a cold civil war, that was this Princeton professor, a democrat by the way, said it was a cold civil war a couple years ago.
		And to the point now where people have literally been killed, and many others have gone to prison in these fights, we need to start treating these things like There's no America right now.
		Maybe people just don't want to accept it.
		Maybe we're desensitized to it.
		But let me explain something.
		I've talked for a while about civil war.
		And the left loves to disparage this concept because they need to make sure it's ridiculed.
		If regular Americans wake up to the fact that their way of life, their jobs, and even their race, just based on their race, they're being attacked and disparaged, having their resources stripped away, well, they might actually get mad about that.
		So the left loves to say, it's not true, it's never going to happen.
		Well, Let's go through a few things.
		You've got in Washington, they're mandating critical race theory.
		1619 project level stuff.
		They're literally telling children a different history of the United States that makes the U.S.
		seem like evil, like an evil empire.
		They tell kids that the country was founded in 1619 as a slavocracy.
		They are literally flying flags of their ideology at our embassies.
		The embassy flies the American flag because the American flag represents all Americans.
		Half this country, more than half actually, do not support Black Lives Matter.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		It's over half now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's over half because some are neutral and many oppose it.
		So you've got like 48% supporting, 48% opposing, and then like 3% neutral, which means more than half do not support and nearly the same amount oppose it, yet our embassies are flying a flag of an ideology opposed by half the country?
		You have schools putting out revisionist history.
		You have the fleeing from, you know, the states are hyper-polarizing.
		You have institutionalized ideologies that are willing to lie, cheat, and steal, and accuse a president of being a Russian spy, accuse people of being white supremacists, and their goal is to make sure regular Americans don't realize it's happening.
		Which brings me to the story I want to show you.
		Kids Network, Nickelodeon, rolls out Pride Month content.
		With imagination, I can be anything I want.
		Now, I don't care too much, like, you know, Pride content, LGBT rights and all that stuff.
		I've actually campaigned for many of these organizations.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Don't you want to arm the trans people?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
unidentified		100%.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They should all have guns.
		However, the issue I'm talking about here with this story is this.
		In the video, they show what's called the Red Salute.
		You know what the Red Salute is?
		It's... Right.
		Well, you just did it.
		That's right.
		And the Chinese Communist Party... You can't do the other one.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		They killed a ton of people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're all manipulative, authoritarian psychopaths and genocidal maniacs.
		And right now the Chinese Communist Party, when they swear someone into the party, they perform the Red Salute.
		Nickelodeon is showing the Red Salute to children.
		They're getting them to identify with this ideology.
		So it's time to stop acting like Antifa on the street are anything other than enemy belligerents.
		They go around destroying buildings, burning them down.
		They've literally killed people.
		I can already hear the left saying, but what about the far right who've killed people?
		Yes, they're lunatics and bad as well.
		Lock them all up and throw away the key.
		Now we can deal with the thousands of people across this country, black-clad Antifa, who have been going around causing billions of dollars in damage, and we can ask our State Department politely, please don't fly the flag of this cult dogma ideology that half the country does not support.
		By all means, you can believe in a bunch of crazy things.
		Some of these people like flying... Some of the people in America, they like flying Confederate flags.
		Not a big fan.
		Some of these people like flying BLM flags.
		Some of these people like flying flags of a bunch of different ideologies.
		There's a flag for Islam or symbols for these things.
		And I believe people should be allowed to fly them.
		I don't think our embassies should be flying flags that do not represent the country.
		However, as we now know, because this woman on MSNBC, a New York Times editorial board member, said she was disturbed by the sight of people with American flags because by showing those flags, they were basically saying, it's my country and not yours, which is a paranoid delusion.
		But it comes a certain point.
		When you have conflict in the streets for years where people are being killed, skirmishes, not a whole lot of death, but some death, physical destruction of property, attacks on governmental institutions, and yes, there was the riot at the Capitol, you have these things happening.
		And you know what I think's happened?
		Americans are frogs in a pot boiling.
		Could you imagine if it was eight years ago, If all of these embassies around the world start flying the Black Lives Matter flag, people would be like, whoa, whoa, what's happening?
		But they do it one step at a time.
		And now Americans are like, no, everything's normal and fine.
		Antifa's a normal thing.
		I'm used to it by now.
		Yes.
		You are used to the fact that black-clad leftist extremists go around throwing bricks through windows and burning buildings down for over a year consistently and sporadically for the years before that.
		That's not normal.
		And now, Nickelodeon is running commercials promoting that ideology.
		There was, on Disney Channel, Cassandra Fairbanks tells me about this.
		They're running anti-Trump commercials for children.
		So you can call it whatever you want.
		You can say we're not in a culture war or a conflict or a civil war.
		People have died already.
		The conflict is only escalating.
		And now you have Joe Biden, you know, engaging in these behaviors.
		You have our embassies around the world flying a flag that doesn't represent this country.
		And I'm like, now we're at a point where the American flag is being flown and just below it, Black Lives Matter.
		How long until they say, we're gonna take the American flag down just for one day in honor of Black Lives Matter?
		How long until they say, well, we're gonna put the American flag at half-mast, but we support, you know, black lives, so we'll fly Black Lives Matter.
		How long until they say, well, we don't want to use the words, we're gonna do the fist.
		How long until they say, it's the communist salute and you're going to the gulag?
		Perhaps it'll never happen.
		Perhaps it's all just chilling out, and this, right now, this, everything we're seeing with Nickelodeon promoting the Red Salute, with these children's programs saying Orange Man Bad, with violence in the streets and Andy Ngo getting beat up, maybe this is the moment where everything stops, and tomorrow everyone calms down.
		The only problem?
		Every time I've said that, it just gets worse and keeps escalating.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You're kind of feeding my conspiracy theory that Black Lives Matter and Antifa are working together.
		I don't know how you guys feel about that.
		Black Lives Matter gets the picture on the flag, then Antifa uses that picture to justify their behavior.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		They co-opt their movement though.
		I think it's the Antifa members specifically, and I always just say members because they are they are allegiant to an idea, who are the actual people who are committing a lot of the destructive damage at these events.
		But they use the cover of Black Lives Mattering to be dismissed, right?
		Because their goals, their cultural Marxist goals are to relieve the oppressed.
		And so somehow Americans should feel like small businesses being destroyed is a justified response to trying to help black people, which is absolute stupidity.
		The fact that people think that black people need help and it's their job to help them is so asinine and ridiculous.
		I mean, I have become so emboldened with everyone talking about how black people need help and how black people need this or that.
		It's class.
		Like you know what, how about you stop looking at black people like a monolith of just like
		this group of people that need help and start realizing people are individuals and there
		are cultural trends and things that can be addressed.
		But it's just, if we could stop calling them black people, that would also be great.
		And then we call people of color too.
		You know, it's even more, except for Asians are no longer in there because they're white
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		passing.
		Listen, they don't care about those people.
		The left does not care.
		It is white progressives, mainly they're upper class or from the suburbs.
		They don't care about the black community.
		They don't care about the Asian community.
		They don't care about ending Asian hate.
		They can march around all day and that would stop Asian hate flags and then go beat up Andy Ngo.
		Sorry, it doesn't work that way.
		They're perpetuating it because what they really want to do Regular people are the target.
		So when I say civil war, they say, what a crazy moron, because they don't want regular people to actually listen to what's happening.
		So I don't say it all the time, but I say it a lot, because I think a lot of people need to recognize what it is.
		Semantics are important.
		The left will call their no-go zones autonomous zones.
		It sounds so fun.
		It's autonomous zone.
		Say no-go zone.
		They're not autonomous zones.
		They're areas the cops are scared to enter, where people are being killed.
		George Floyd Square, they call it.
		No, I call that an extremist no-go zone.
		That's all I call it.
		That's it.
		A far-left extremist no-go zone.
unidentified		Why?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		People are being shot and killed, bullets are riddling up these buildings, and the cops don't want to go there.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		But here's the point, though.
		That flag is the American flag now, whether you like it or not, because intersectionality, this idea of bringing minority groups together for one common goal, is the result of the reality that multiculturalism does not work.
		It does not work to have a country that is divided up into subclasses of people who want a different outcome for the nation at equal or greater powers or strength.
		That does not work with a biospirit of a nation of people wanting an outcome.
		If you want an outcome for a nation to be successful or an empire, this is why empires, when they overreach or overexpand their territory, can end up falling apart.
		There's too much to manage, too many wants and desires from too many groups, and they lose focus.
		But I'm just saying this, that that flag, and the reason why it keeps expanding, I don't know if you saw today that they changed it again, To add a circle for intersex people on the left hand side.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's actually pushing the rainbow out.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		See, yes, but this is my point.
		Is this intersectionality is great because what they see as being this white, conservative, straight roadblock to this one world order that they think is a nationalist identity, they need to remove that.
		But they haven't had enough power to remove that.
		And even the boogeyman of white supremacy is pretty much ridiculous.
		But what they do is now they incentivize you No, saying like you're just like you you think it's cool to be an American and patriotic wait till you're gatriotic You know and you actually get on this on this train and you join us Have you ever had a weird thought about the same sex?
		Oh, you're probably queer you think black lives matter You're now a BLM supporter and it's like these like basic things that humans have gone through and they start to procure you into saying your identity is with us and they create a sub Culture from America that is the amalgamation of all of the microcultures.
		And in fact, they have become more influential and more powerful than this white sub-dominant silent majority that everyone talks about that doesn't actually exist.
		And so, you know, it's funny.
		And then whenever they talk about this, right, like the white replacement theory or these things, they always say these are conspiracy theorists.
		But then you hear the left talk about this stuff.
		To understand the future of the country, to understand immigration, and to understand people of color moving in.
		And they talk about these things, and when you bring them back up, you get called a conspiracy theorist.
		Why?
		It's because their ultimate goal is to subvert and undermine our culture, our society.
		They're using that by taking advantage of these people who are outcasts.
		They're creating that mixed with a lack of assimilation.
		And they are dominating, and now they're flying their flags in our embassies.
		That is... We've been conquered!
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		So today I was actually listening to a podcast, a current events podcast, I don't know if I should name it, but the person I was listening to said that the Black Lives Matter flag was taken down, like the pride flag was taken down outside of the US embassies, not because they didn't want that ideology in front of the US embassies, But because they didn't want to give people the foothold to say, I would like to fly the Gadsden flag.
		This was their reasoning.
		And that just floored me.
		I was like, this is consistent with everything I know about the way things is going.
		And I want someone to fact check me on that because I didn't have the chance to look it up for myself.
		I just tried to and wasn't able to find like a current article.
		But this is something that makes perfect sense to me.
		Like, they are unwilling to give an inch of ground.
		They're just saying, we're not going to fly the flag because it might give conservatives a way in, which is troubling to me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So we have this story from military.com.
		This is from June 1st.
		This is from June 1st.
		Gadsden flag patch on airman's uniform wasn't authorized, officials say.
		And it's a photo of a guy and he's got a Gadsden flag patch.
		I don't care if it's authorized.
		It's like a symbol of Virginia.
		There's like, you can get a license plate in Virginia with the Gadsden flag.
		Why wouldn't someone be able to have that?
		Political, I suppose they say.
		U.S.
		Strategic Command on Saturday tweeted a news release promoting nuclear launch security measures along with a photo of Captain Alexander Garland, a 341st Operation Support Squadron nuclear cryptographic operator, inserting a floppy disk into equipment at the base, according to the photo caption.
		He was wearing the patch on his Operation Camouflage Pattern or OCP uniform in the photo.
		Quote, The incident has been addressed with the member's chain of command, and regulations regarding the wear of authorized patches in accordance with Air Force standards are being reinforced throughout the wing, a spokesman from the 341st said.
		Adding, the patch in question is not authorized to be worn on Air Force uniforms.
		Proper wear on of the uniform is a vital element of good order and discipline Which guides our strikers daily with the execution of no-fail missions yada yada we get the point There's a story.
		I think I think it's do I have it pulled up from Snopes Navy SEALs ordered to remove don't tread on me patches Snope says false.
		It's it's not true Navy SEALs What it didn't happen they say this from 2013 Now they're saying, don't try to... So this is back in 2013.
		They weren't ordered to remove them.
		Okay.
		There's a lot that could happen between now and then, and who knows what may have changed.
		But now, this one guy in the Air Force was not authorized to have a patch.
		So at some point, did they revoke authorization for having this?
		Did they say, you guys don't got to remove it from now on.
		No one's allowed to have the Gadsden flag.
		Meanwhile, you can rest assured that they will be flying pride flags.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But they don't wear Pride patches on their... I mean, really, you're not supposed to wear any patches that aren't a uniform.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		It's so absolutely disrespectful and disgusting.
		I'm just going to say this.
		This movement has nothing to do with homosexual rights or with black people or whatever sort of nonsense you want to say.
		This is a political subdivision of the United States that has wanted power And like I mentioned earlier, has felt like the white conservative straight person has been the major roadblock.
		The person with values, traditional Christian values, these conservative values, constitutional values.
		And they know that, you know, they say this is an interesting thing with the 1619 Project that a lot of people will get pissed off about.
		One thing that I can agree with critical race theory on is they do say that America was made by white people for white people and I've read the documents and before 1965 it specifically states like for our posterity and I've read some of the critical race theory and I've looked at the documents they didn't forge them if you look at the history white people did write and make things for their posterity now after 1965 especially today if you think this country somehow benefits white people directly and that that somehow hasn't changed you're not living in the current country that we're living in.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I need to just make sure This isn't a pride flag anymore!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The DoD did ban pride flags, right? So I just want to make sure that's clear.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		But this isn't a pride flag anymore. This is an intersectional flag.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, I'm just saying, you know, we're bringing up that they're criticizing the
		wearing of the Gadsden flag. And so I want to make sure my point is clear,
		because I know the left is going to be like, Tim's claiming they're flying the pride flag,
		but that was banned. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is,
		because what Lydia was pointing out, because they don't want people doing either flag,
		they say you can't do these flags anymore, but the Gadsden flag is literally a symbol of this country.
		The pride flag, by all means, have your pride flag, it is not a symbol of the foundation of this country.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		I understand what it represents, and I'm more than happy to allow people to- Based on our previous conversation about the ideal of what the country is, is pride and these things that we're exporting out into the rest of the world have become just as much a part of the American identity and who we are?
		I mean, they're rewriting history about who was queer.
		I mean, I remember I was in seminary, they tried to convince me that Jesus might have been gay.
unidentified		No, no, no, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You see, this is what's called a hostile takeover.
		When they tell children the country wasn't founded in 1776, the country is being erased.
		People need to say it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The Cold War is still going on!
		The Soviet Union ended because of their kerfuffle in Afghanistan and the Mujahideen and their lost war in the 90s.
		But the Cold War didn't end.
		The communist obsession is still present.
		It might have lulled for about a decade or 15 years, but now, man, it is.
		And it's not just Russia.
		Communism is not a Russian thing.
		It's a dangerous, collectivist ideology.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, China is communist.
		They're pushing an ideology and people in America now, our children's programs, are showing the red salute uncritically to children to get them to embrace this stuff.
		The flags of our country, the Gadsden flag, a symbol of the revolution, don't try to me, is now considered hateful and unacceptable.
		Could you imagine, the Founding Fathers, for all their faults, they created a country that has improved the lives of people around the world, for better or for worse.
		Americans have done a lot of bad things, but it's through the Founders and their documents, and the great activists and political leaders, we've made one of the best countries, if not the best country in the history of the planet.
		And now, could you imagine if the Founding Fathers were like, we set forth this great nation, and we bestow upon you the responsibility to make it and improve it.
		The Founding Fathers didn't like slavery, but they didn't do enough to stop it because they were scared.
		I shouldn't say all the Founding Fathers.
		Many of them were worried that if they opposed it, the South would not join the revolution, and then they wouldn't be able to actually break away from the crown.
		You know what?
		I think that's bad.
		I think slavery was immoral then, I think it's immoral now, and there's a lot of bad things done by a lot of bad people, a lot of conquests from a lot of nations around the world.
		So all we can do is say, as a country, we've done better.
		But think about what would happen.
		After fighting for independence, they would learn that within only a couple hundred years, the country could not maintain its national anthem.
		The country could not maintain its own history lessons.
		The country could not maintain pride in its own flag.
		And not the Gadsden flag, the literal American flag.
		Remember when Colin Kaepernick complained that the Nike shoes with the original flag of the colonies was racist, so they pulled it?
		Now we're having sporting events sing two different national anthems.
		The NFL announced they have the black national anthem and the American anthem.
		How is it that we couldn't even maintain a country's values and culture for a couple hundred years?
unidentified		Now don't get me wrong— Dude, it's because of the— Look, let's just be honest here.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		It's because we were sold out to some BS in 1965.
		They appealed to the Christian nature of the white race of the country and said, you're obviously not racist.
		You guys outlawed slavery.
		This is civil rights.
		You want to be open.
		You want to bring people in.
		This also got changed in the 70s and 80s.
		Well, let's change immigration.
		Let's start helping people.
		Let's make right the wrongs that we've created.
		What I'm saying is this.
		And they're going to assimilate.
		No, but they're saying, oh yeah, people will assimilate.
		We'll be one nation.
		But that opened the door where right now what's happened is... Get more specific.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What specifically are you talking about?
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm talking about when the immigration laws were changed, when we had this similar bio-spirit, and there was this majority of people in every nation, whether it's religion, race, it's culture, there has to be shared value.
		But what happened is, is post-1965, with the change of immigration, and you look as the country changed, everyone was like, yeah, I love everyone who's not white.
		I'm not a racist.
		That's rude to just be mean to somebody because of their race.
		And they're going, let's bring these people in, let's assimilate.
		But as we've seen constantly, with the change of immigration, I would say even in, I know you're not a Christian yourself, but with pushing God and demonizing Christian morals and morality, a few other factors as well, including, I would even say, the hostile takeover of our government in some ways, and our intelligence agencies, came in and we were sold this future for America, which was a total scam, and I believe had communist influence, because instead of pushing people to assimilate and to have this great American spirit, all we've seen is people are being pushed to identify more with where they came from, what, even, it doesn't even matter on race, it's also on sexuality.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
		I don't think immigration is the issue.
		I think it's divide and conquer.
		And you need as much points of division as you can.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		But you don't think communists like immigration?
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		They take advantage of immigrants?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think they like illegal immigration.
		I think they want to sow open borders policy.
		Because what I learned with Sweden, When they let in a lot of the Somali migrants in the 90s, the problem was they didn't try to assimilate.
		They didn't give these people an opportunity for work.
		They were actually extremely racist in Sweden.
		So what happens is they bring all these refugees in and then feign how much they love all people.
		And then they put all the people in these urban centers with no support.
		What happens?
		Well, people from Somalia speak Somali, or, you know, I'm not entirely sure of the language, but they don't speak Swedish.
		They don't, they don't, they aren't able to get jobs, they can't make money, they struggle, and they're forced to live off of subsidy from the government.
		This creates a pocket of people who don't feel like they're a part of Sweden.
		Then their children are born.
		These are people born in Sweden.
		Swedes, who are white, call them immigrants.
		When they go and visit their family in Somalia, they're called Swedes.
		So now they have no home, no identity, they don't know where, what they represent other than their small neighborhood.
		That's what happens when you don't give people a chance.
		So you say assimilation.
		What does that mean?
		It's a chance to actually function within the community to succeed.
		So, immigration.
		It's fine.
		Because immigration means we control our borders.
		We have planning.
		We say, okay, you're coming here.
		We have an excellent place for you.
		There's this city that's growing rapidly.
		They desperately need your skill set.
		You will live very well.
		You have a great family.
		Welcome to the American dream.
		Shake the hand.
		What we're seeing from the left is a conflation of the legal immigration, which is good, with the illegal immigration, which is bad, when a bunch of people come here risking their lives, getting hurt, and then going to random places where they don't integrate.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		But not all legal immigration is good, and I think that that's why legal immigration is a key and a door to give the communists more room to divide and conquer, because that's my point, is what we're sold is, is somebody's coming from another country, they share your values, they share the American spirit, meanwhile, When they're brought here, they do feel ostracized, and I will turn this before someone tries to make me appear to be racist.
		Their studies have been done on white American expats who left the country and have lived in places like Japan.
		They are not happy with where they live, they feel isolated, they tend to hang out in the same regions, they tend to recreate America where they live, they tend to be depressed at a higher rate than the average American, and they tend to be unhappy because Japan is a homogenous place, and there's a culture, and they tend to not fit in.
		And the number one reason why I'm saying why expats don't fit in is because in America
		it's seen as being really great to share your political views.
		You actually are like seen as sort of being brave.
		And in Japan you will be ostracized.
		There's a word for that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're racist.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Well, how is that racism?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		Japan is literally racist.
		They're an ethno state and they do not, they don't treat.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		How is that racism of a homogenous Japanese culture wanting to preserve a certain ethnic
		group for like, have you, have you been, you've been there, right?
		Yeah.
		And how well ordered the society is.
		I mean, they are just, they've been this way for thousands of years.
		They've been very protectionist.
		I don't, I'm not offended by the way they run their country.
		My point is, is that from reading, from understanding communists, it's not that my wife's an immigrant
		from, from a legal immigrant from Australia.
		I'm not against people coming to other countries.
		I'm saying that what is important to admit is that the change in immigration systems in the United States was used by communists and other people to divide and conquer, and it is to this day.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If you have someone come to the board of the United States who doesn't speak English, and you say, we are going to find a beautiful place for you where you will succeed, This one individual enters a community of 5,000 people.
		What happens to that individual?
		They become part of the community, they improve their communication skills, they find work, and the community maintains its values, and this person adopts many of those values, and they all succeed, and they all share in the wondrous fruits of their labors.
		If you have a community of 2,000 people, and you bring in 5,000 people of a completely different ideology, what happens?
		It subverts the community.
		Taking away their values and instilling new values on top of them.
		Immigration can be done right if it's done legally, which is why Donald Trump said they can all come here but they got to do it legally.
		Why?
		Because it means we can plan effectively to make sure they succeed.
		Bringing people from an area that's suffering because they have problems and putting them in an area where they have no support structure and no ability to bask in the American dream just means you get ghettos.
		You get people who are suffering in a new place where they're just suffering with no opportunity.
		Illegal immigration is the problem.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		But how do you explain Sweden and some of this redistribution where these people don't want to assimilate?
		Like the idea that they don't actually want to.
		And that's what I was saying about the expats from the United States.
		They don't want to assimilate into Japanese culture.
		My point is that I am not hateful towards any people group.
		But when you look at this, this is my point about giving communists open doors.
		I sense that the Cold War isn't over at all.
		And I think that communists have come in.
		This is why it's not just illegal immigration and legal immigration, even with this whole weird sexuality thing.
		I mean, people have kinks and by God, well, I grew up in L.A.
		I know people do a lot of things that I wouldn't even do myself, but they keep it to themselves.
		But this idea of making your sexuality your identity and moving in this mode where you make, you know, separate your gender and your sex.
		I mean, these are very foreign, non-Western ideas.
		that are strange.
		And I'm just saying in all of these ways, I feel like we've given too many open doors
		to the communists where I don't see us returning.
		And I don't think that legal immigration, I think in theory is good.
		I just think that it has been misappropriated, misrepresented, and I disagree with Trump's opinion on that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you remember when the liberals used to say, what you do in the privacy of your own home
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		is your own business, not the government's?
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		That's the liberal California I grew up in.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Me too, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now it's not.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		That's why I used to be a centrist.
		I used to be okay with liberals.
		They were pretty chill.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, the issue is that... Go on Reddit, right?
		And every day I go on Reddit because I read all this stuff.
		Boy, do these people have no idea what's happening in the world.
		There'll be an article and it'll say Republicans want to ban teaching history of slavery.
		Like MSNBC reported that.
		And it's like, that's literally never happened.
		No Republicans ever proposed that.
		So a Republican comes out and says critical race theory is a racist historical revisionism.
		And the left then tells all of their blind sheep They're trying to ban teaching the history of slavery.
		That's a gross mischaracterization of what's actually happening.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Southlake did it right by where I live.
		I don't live in Southlake.
		They banned anti-racist curriculum, but they really just banned critical race theory.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so what happens is, man, you get regular people who are like, well, I don't like racists.
		Yes, anti-racist.
		But it doesn't mean anything.
		So Antifa, right?
		These people literally follow the doctrine of fascists almost to the T. Then they go, but we're not nationalists.
		Okay, fair point.
		But you still believe everything else the fascists believed?
		Don't take my word for it.
		David Graeber, the late David Graeber, rest in peace, was the one who came out on Twitter and said, there is an element of the left that has adopted the fascistic philosophy of, there is no truth but power.
		What do you think it means when they come out and say there's no objective reality or that 2 plus 2 equals 5?
		They're constructivists.
		They believe there is no truth but power, a core tenet of fascism.
		However, they've abandoned the idea of borders.
		Why?
		Well, I mean, Hitler wanted to take over the world.
		They would prefer a one-world government of authoritarianism where there is no truth but power and they have the power.
		So there's not a really big difference between them and the fascists.
		And this is what people need to understand about the Red Salute, The communists and the fascists.
		The communists and the fascists were fighting in Europe at the turn of the century in 1900s and into the early 1900s.
		They were both despotic, psychopathic groups who wanted to beat and kill each other.
		And one side lost in Europe and one side lost in Russia.
		After the fall of World War II, we got Cold War for generations.
		We're still in it now with China.
		These are despots.
		They believe in concentration camps.
		I understand the United States has not done well themselves, but hey, we're a heck of a lot better.
		You know, it's funny because we think we're this perfect nation.
		We're not.
		We have massive corporations.
		The government teams up with Facebook to ban and censor speech.
		But we have recourse.
		A federal judge in California just said California's assault weapons ban is unconstitutional.
		Hey, we have those protections!
		It is a hard fight every single day to defend our rights.
		But in China, they don't have that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		No, have you seen what happened to Jack Ma?
		I mean, he's richest guy in the world or one of the richest men in China, richest guy in China.
		Government just basically grabbed him, put him on a farm or something.
		It was like, you've gone too far.
		We're taking your company.
		We're giving it away.
		So they broke his entire $900 billion industry.
		Now the value has been cut in half because China is just doling out.
		You can't be Hero in China, right because because of because of hard
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		times and this is what I'm trying to say Is this is coming from somebody who who literally just to
		tell the audience who's probably unfamiliar Was actually consistently bashed by people for being to
		Center on most issues and always like calling me You know like a pussycat, you know, but without the cat and
		they were always coming down to me Why are you so nice to the left and this and that?
		I'm going, bro, I'm born and raised in LA.
		I live in Hollywood, bro.
		Like, I don't even... I'm the most, like, right-wing person I know, and I still... I'm not right enough for the right people.
		But as I was tolerable and tolerated things and did what they said to tolerate, I watched
		people gain power to where they started making life miserable for those they disagreed with,
		and I started seeing the world that these atheist, authoritarian, communist, sexually
		confused people were bringing to the country, and I don't like that.
		And when they say hard times create strong men, it made me confront my live and let live
		sort of pseudo-libertarian ideas, and I said, the people that I thought were wrong are actually
		most right.
		It's that tip jar for Alex Jones, that joke, that meme, where it's like, he was right jar,
		and then it has it full.
		It's people that I used to disagree with.
		I started reading, I started understanding, and I realized that sometimes what sounds good
		is not what's right for the country.
		And the communists have used the good, benevolent heart of Americans to come in and to use institutions against us,
		even our trust of the government, because our respect for patriotism,
		and our FBI and our thoughts, like our FBI wouldn't politically persecute people
		from January 6th, this is, they're Americans, they're patriots, they wouldn't treat
		other Americans like that, even if they committed crimes.
		That benevolence of our hearts has been taken advantage of.
		We, with immigration, with taking God out of school, separation of church and state,
		with understanding multiculturalism, even with the gay pride stuff,
		originally it was like, dude, don't you just want gay people to be able
		to do what they wanna do in their closet?
		And you're like, okay, fine, go ahead.
		And then now it's like, yeah, if you won't let them have sex with your kid,
		you're the bigot, you know?
		And so that's my point.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's a little extreme.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		No, but we're getting, it sounds extreme today, but what sounds extreme today is tomorrow's normal.
		Is that we have become accelerationists.
		And that's my point is the more I sit by and go, I'm okay with these people.
		I'm okay.
		I feel like that meme where I'm like, okay, things are not okay.
		This is not good.
		And I've had to come to terms with ideas that I'm uncomfortable with.
		I've had to accept truths that I wish weren't real.
		And I've had to take more of a stand, and I can't be a centrist anymore because I don't even have a label.
		I just can't be in the center because these are enemies of the United States that have hijacked this nation.
		They have used these institutions against us, and I'm firmly going to stand against them.
		I know I'll look like the villain today, but you have to be a villain today to be tomorrow's hero.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because the media won't represent you well.
		We've got to go to Super Chats.
		So if you haven't already, smash that like button.
		And for those that are upset with the constant loss of the internet, here's what we'll do.
		We record this so we'll just upload the full corrected version after the fact.
		Oh, cool.
		so that everybody who actually wants to watch the full podcast, it's recorded and in high
		def and that'll be our fix.
		And I'll tell you this, send us an email to jobs at TimCast.com if you're an IT specialist,
		we'll fly you out immediately first thing and you can try and fix our struck by lightning
		internet.
		So we've got, there's a bunch of workarounds and backups we have, but our satellite backup
		is down, our cable line backup is down, and we even had a line run from the house above
		ground as an emergency backup.
		It's all just fried.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		When you send that email, put IT SPECIALIST in all caps on the subject.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, do it to it, and you'll have a flight first thing in the morning, because we'll go through those emails ASAP, and then you'll be here by, like, 1 or noon.
		Or if you live on the East Coast, you can drive out, and we'll have someone come out.
		But we'll read Super Chats, and then again, for those that just want to watch the podcast, because there's going to be a lot broken in this one, because they're just dropping off, we'll upload the full version to YouTube clean.
		But go to TimCast.com, become a member.
		We'll have a bonus segment coming up at TimCast.com for members only.
		And now let's read some super chats.
		BeefSwellington says, YouTube upset with you?
		They stopped notifications for you.
		That's right, which is why we're setting up TimCast.com, because like any other anti-establishment personality, you know, we're not long for the world of YouTube, and if you put all your eggs in that basket, you are gonna be in serious trouble.
		All right.
unidentified		All right, let's see what we got here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Joseph Cole says, Hey Tim and Co, been watching for five years now.
		Please go download, stream, or watch Tom MacDonald's new song, Snowflakes, on all music platforms.
		Right on.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I hear good things.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Jake Dog says, I'm on Elijah's side cause Sav.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Heart, puppy, smiley face.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Never simp.
		Never simp for Sav.
		Lids, do people simp for you?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and I don't like it.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Don't simp for producers.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		It's not nice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Tyson Jaleel says, Tim used to be on the street reporting.
		Now that he's rich, it's not okay for others to do so.
		Just get security.
		Sure thing, millionaire Tim.
		Uh, Andy Ngo just sold like a bestselling book.
		I don't think the dude's poor.
		Um, I don't know if he's a millionaire or anything like that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's just this example of a cavalry commander, you made this point earlier, leading the charge of the cavalry.
		They do it for years, they get so good at it, then eventually they become the general that goes behind the lines and decides where the cavalry is going to charge while the infantry is moving up, and they become a tactical mind.
		And that's where Andy is right now, I think.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Carter Strasser says, Tim, do you support negotiation with terrorists?
		How much should Andy negotiate?
		What's your line?
		Who benefits most from negotiation?
		I don't think I've ever advocated for Andy walking up to Antifa and trying to draw terms on what is acceptable.
		I just think it doesn't make sense when one of the most prominent personalities in the culture war goes by themselves into the fray of enemy combat infantry, who are not prominent and aren't doing anything particularly newsworthy, and then risks a very serious and important piece of the culture war.
		Hey, look, it's frustrating to me to see that many on the right, they're not as good as the left.
		The left knows how to organize, they know how to infiltrate, destroy, and rebuild, and they are doing it methodically, and they've been doing it for a long time.
		The New York Times, they go in, they take over, they do these same things.
		In fact, we had a couple people here talking about their organization, how the woke came in and tried taking it over, and how they resisted it.
		The last thing we need is these very serious tactical failures.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Do you think that people on the left are high IQ, low EQ, and the people on the right are low IQ, high EQ, in general?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, I think people on the left are conformist collectivists, and people on the right tend to be individualists, and that's one of the big separators, which means On the right, someone's gonna say, I say we all go and protest.
		And there's gonna be a bunch of disagreement from people.
		I don't know about that.
		That doesn't make sense for me.
		On the left, they're gonna say, everyone shut up and do as you're told.
		And then they go, yes.
		And they're all gonna wave their fingers in the air like this.
		That's what they do.
		The Borg is a dangerous enemy.
		They'll go, mic check.
		And then everyone yells, mic check.
unidentified		I think we, I think we, babies, should all go out and protest.
unidentified		And everyone goes, yeah!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they all go march.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		They'll get free doughnuts for their jabs.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They get free ice cream.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They get free doughnuts, you know.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Pathetic losers.
		It's need a reward to be to fall in line with the state.
		They do, though.
unidentified		Whoa.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Corn Pop says Jordan Peterson moderated a debate between Fauci and Rand Paul on the Paul's to the Wall podcast.
		Must listen.
		Oh, that's not real, is it?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I gotta look it up.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you guys you guys got to check out Freedom Tunes because I voiced Fauci and it was like the
		most fun thing ever and we recorded actual video of me doing the voice and with Seamus directing
		and then Seamus has that that bonus segment up for his Patreon so Freedom Tunes that's right I
		was the voice of Fauci. Droplets! It was fun. Yes uh Morgan Grace's have you heard the new song by
		Tom McDonnell called Snowflakes? Wow.
		He hits it all on the nail.
		I've heard some of it.
		I'll check it out.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		It's really good.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		You should have him on your show.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's so busy, you know?
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Where is he?
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		He's in California.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's hard for people to travel, especially when they got crazy schedules and like, this dude's massive, you know what I mean?
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Dude, I want to hear the most embarrassing thing.
		I had him on my show remote because he was busy.
		And, uh, in the middle of our interview, the Tricaster just died.
		And so the, it's like, we're in such a good conversation.
		Then it just cuts to me and goes, during the filming of this, the Tricaster died and that's it.
		Thanks for watching.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, our internet got struck by lightning, so.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		What do you do?
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes things just short out and you're trying to run a show and you don't know what to do.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But we record backups.
		Backups on backups on backups.
		I got so many backups.
		I even have mobile backup.
		Nothing worked.
		Back in the last year, our internet would go down and I'd be like, satellite.
		And we'd be good.
		Now the satellite's not even working.
		They must just, there's somebody just, you know, some alien is like, deactivate all of his internet.
		He's too smart.
		He has too many.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		End of the lightning.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because that's how aliens talk, you know?
		I've been watching.
		So it was really funny.
		You know, I used to watch Star Trek The Next Generation before like every episode.
		Somebody commented, Tim, you really need to watch Star Trek SG-1.
		And the weirdest thing happened.
		The schedule for the channel that I normally watch switched from Star Trek to SG-1.
		And now all of a sudden I'm watching Star Trek SG-1 all the time.
		Good show, by the way.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We may as well use the power.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		that's right raymond field says
		you should look up the beef of h three h three steven crowder it's a larry s h
		three h three says we should trust the government and calls crowder dumb cuz he
unidentified		doesn't i thought i was talking about last night
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh man.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Dude.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Are you, do you like Ethan Klein?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know a lot about him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's just like a comedian personality, right?
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		No, he's, I would say he switched.
		Okay.
		Because by the way, not only has he said the N word unironically on air multiple times and the F and F-A-G-G-O-T or whatever.
		I hope I spelled that right.
		But he said, he said, he says a lot, a lot of bad stuff.
		Then he switched because it was cool to be edgy.
		And then when it became advantageous to not be edgy, then he became woke.
		And then also with that wokeness and trying to appease his audience, which you
		should never do, he became totally unfunny, not creative.
		And with his soulless wife, he tries to put on a show and I feel so bad for him.
		Because he gets millions of millions of views, but he switched from like, like
		appealing to edgy people who thought to like, now he's doing stuff with like
		Trisha, the, like, he basically makes like dumb content for dumb people because
		I have a huge problem with that.
		He's actually smart, theoretically speaking, but it's just sad when people throw away their
		creativity to appease the crowd and then they end up looking like losers.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		My issue and Crowder's issue is that he was telling people not to do their own research.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I have a huge problem with that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't care where you stand.
		Laura says, Tim just admitted he thinks women who get raped walking in clothes in the dark are personally responsible.
		Great take, Tim.
		Thank you.
		I appreciate it.
		I think it is a good take because, you know, I've always maintained my principles.
		And so, like, one story I tell is that one day I was late for school.
		And I was late because there was a train.
		And in Chicago, you know, these trains, man, they cut through the neighborhoods, and you just sit there for half an hour sometimes.
		And so, my dad was like, why are you late?
		And I was like, it's not my fault, there was a train.
		And he goes, you know the train tracks are there.
		Why didn't you plan ahead for the possibility the train would stop you from being there?
		If you don't take this into consideration, it's your fault.
		Like, there's no excuse for every day walking past the train.
		So I'm not saying women are responsible for getting raped.
		That's not what I said.
		I said that at a certain point there's some responsibility in your own safety.
		I'm not gonna walk with a bag full of cash in a dark alley at night.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Don't walk in a dark alley at night anyway.
unidentified		Not in a city anyway.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, you can.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can take the garbage out.
unidentified		You have to, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I also have guns.
		And I moved out of cities.
		So the point is...
		What I said, first, of course the responsibility and the problem comes from the criminal who should be condemned for committing the crime.
		I'd love to live in a utopia, but so long as criminals exist, and we know they exist, at what point do we tell someone, look, I know it shouldn't be this way, but you should probably have pepper spray, a taser, or a gun, whatever's legal in your jurisdiction.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The problem with idealism is the movie industry really has put it in people's brains and the video game industry that like, Oh, if you just believe that it can be this way, it will one day when you persevere.
		Then you see reality and people just get mowed down and smashed.
		Exactly.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		What I really see in idealism is a whole lot of should.
		And you know who agrees with Tim's take on not walking down a dark alley?
		It's Camille Pelia, who's actually a feminist.
		She completely agrees with him.
		And it's not saying it's deserved, it's saying that you need to be responsible.
		And I see a lack of that on both sides of the aisle.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like, imagine if you had a deposit from your boss.
		You're like, you're working at Starbucks and they're like, take this five grand, go to the bank.
		And you're like, okay, I'm holding a deposit bag.
		I'm going to try and, I'm not going to hide it.
		I want people to be able to see it.
		We should live in a world where you can show the back to everyone.
		I should be able to hold it over my head.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Should be.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And when someone comes, because I decided instead of going the normal route to walk through the dark alley to the bank, and someone runs up and snatches it from me, it wasn't my fault.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		No, you should be able to do that.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But should you be able to make yourself vulnerable in front of a hungry elephant?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You sure should!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'll sing about a crocodile.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		Hold on.
		It isn't your fault that somebody ran up and snatched and stole your money.
		But there are things you can take responsibility for.
		You shouldn't have to hide and do these things.
		Unfortunately, criminals and murderers and rapists are real things.
		Could you imagine if someone was like, the crocodile shouldn't have bit me!
		It's not fair that I... You hear about this woman?
		She got attacked by a crocodile.
		She was like, you know, diving or whatever.
		Or how about the woman who jumped in the spider monkey cage?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Alright, now we're talking.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like, I should be able to!
		I know, but dude, what's the reality?
		Do we believe in this world where we believe that humans are all saints and angels and that crime doesn't exist?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I know, it's crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, the universe wants you dead.
		You're lucky.
		Look, when someone goes mountain climbing, or like hiking, and they get mauled by a panther or a mountain lion, I don't say it's their fault for going hiking.
		I just say, like, man, it's unfortunate because these things happen.
		But you recognize that these people take those risks, right?
		Some people do things.
		They wear, like, shirts with eyes on the back.
		They carry air horns or weapons or some kind of repellent because there's a real issue with getting attacked by a mountain lion.
		They're rare.
		It's rare.
		We don't want these things to happen.
		But why is it, then, that people have bear mace?
		It's because we accept that sometimes you go hiking or you live in the wilderness, bears might happen.
		Could you imagine if someone was like, I shouldn't have to have bear mace.
		The bear should just stop attacking me.
		I mean... I mean, yeah, but... You know, so if the bear attacks you, I say it's the first and foremost that the bear attacked you.
		Humans do messed up stuff.
		There are bad people that exist.
		We have a responsibility to ourselves to remain safe.
		We blame the criminals by sending them to prison.
		We buy products to defend ourselves and technology and armor and things like that to be responsible.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		But we're more into blaming victims today than we are into blaming perpetrators, specifically in political crimes.
		If the victim isn't a political right, almost always you'll find the narrative tends to be somehow that they are the perpetrator.
		And I think that's why people get sensitive about issues.
		And I think just like with the feminist thing, it used to be that women were never right.
		And so there was a big defense in the feminist movement towards defending women.
		It's like, of course, you're going to mansplain me.
		A woman's always wrong.
		Now we've come into the opposite swing where women are always right.
		Until proven wrong and so then that's where you get the backlash and anytime you start making somebody seem like they can never be the victim or and they're always the perpetrators when you have to kind of if you're gonna fight for rights have to come to their defense and right now I feel like specifically even with the with the rape thing and with women wearing skirts like that's just not even the conversation anymore because women are encouraged to dress like hoes.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Just wrap this conversation.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I know we need to get moving I do think it's strange that an entire movement that believes that everyone is bad and terrible and horrible in every single way also Simultaneously believes that you should just be able to dress however you want and do whatever you want and face absolutely no consequences to me That's such a dichotomy of ideas doesn't make sense.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Mm-hmm.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's read some more power-up peek-a-whoo says America isn't perfect.
		America was built on ideals.
		Ideals like truth, justice, and freedom.
		We are only human.
		We won't live our ideals 100% of the time.
		But that doesn't make the ideals not worth fighting for, in response to the CCP brainwashing.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I do take issue.
		I don't agree.
		I think America was founded on subterfuge and murder.
		It was not a lot of standing out in the open and saying what you thought.
		It was a lot of secrecy.
		All that, the Founding Fathers worked underground.
		No one knew what they were doing.
		They snuck in on Christmas Eve and murdered a bunch of people when they were asleep.
		No, no.
		Idealism is not why we're here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		PNBW says, Tim, you really need to get the stream fixed.
		It's skipping and doubling back on itself really bad.
		I don't know if that's your internet or YouTube.
		It is that our internet was struck by lightning!
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Just blame cicadas.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I don't know.
		There was a really bad storm and then all of a sudden the internet stopped working.
		And then we had the guy come out.
		They came out really fast.
		Shout out to Antietam.
		They were quick.
		We didn't think they could.
		The guy came literally like within the hour and he was like, your line is fried.
		I don't know if it was like a lightning strike or something.
		We got to replace this.
		It's like, okay, so that probably negatively impacted our fiber line as well.
		But good luck getting Verizon to respond because it took like six months for them to come out in the first place when they assured us for like a month.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We might have a better chance of getting struck by lightning again than having Verizon come out.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think you might be right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, calling every known line and there's just no one there.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I really don't want to manifest that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But it's okay.
		It's okay.
		Because we just don't have to pay the bill anymore.
		Oh, what happens is they probably won't come out.
		But within a month when we don't pay, they'll call us and be like, why didn't you pay back?
		Well, we've been trying to get you to come to fix it, but we have no internet.
		It's not working.
unidentified		And they'll go, Oh, they'll be out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Then someone shows up.
		Yeah.
		All right.
		Let's see.
		A lot of people saying, please, Brian says, please, love of God, let me fix your network, IT systems engineer.
		I have literally designed and managed data centers.
		Okay, Brian, send an email to jobs at timcast.com, and we will have you on a plane first thing in the morning to come out and fix the internet, because it is a priority for us, and there's nothing we can do.
		But maybe you can figure out what the issue is.
		For all I know, there's something internally that got fried by the light, like a surge hit it, and we don't know what the piece is.
		Our IT guy is dealing with some, you know, very serious stuff.
		So, uh, you know, we need someone who can come in and help fix this stuff.
		All right.
		Sunny James says, What Ian said made me think.
		Andy Ngo got famous from a milkshake hitting him in the head at a protest.
		Today, a journalist getting hurt or even killed covering a protest riot not part of the MSM probably wouldn't make the rounds in a 24-hour news cycle.
		That's why I say we're frogs boiling, man.
		Frogs in a pot.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The Nickelodeon thing made me realize that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It was like a hot splash of shock when you see that Black Lives Matter fist.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The red salute.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The communist symbol.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's like a transgender drag queen talking to kids.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I had it on mute actually while I was watching it, but just like,
unidentified		and then you see the black power fist or whatever it is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The red salute.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Don't call it that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's not what it is.
		How many different names does it have?
		The fascists.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The red salute.
		It was created by these people called the red salute, just like the Nazis try.
		They stopped calling it the Nazi salute.
		They called the Roman salute.
		We know what it is.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's also the fascist salute, isn't it?
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Well, now it's the gay pride salute.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, it's the red salute.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		I'm just saying, I mean, the homosexual communism, I can say communism is gay, and I never thought I would have to say that, because communists used to kill the gays, but then now they're using the gays.
		Very weird stuff.
		And also, it only influences your kids.
		It used to make me angry, but the reason why it doesn't make me angry anymore is because it only makes you angry if your kids watch that stuff.
		And so it's like, it doesn't influence me because I'm clown-pilled and past the black pill where I'm laughing at them because we know what's coming.
		We understand what's on the horizon.
		We're preparing for these types of things, the potentials of what these people might do to us on a defensive measure, some people offensively.
		But most importantly speaking, it's like people go like, well, it's Nickelodeon.
		It's like, dude, just stop watching TV.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Boiling.
		The fact is that if they were putting swastikas in children's messaging, we would all be rightly freaked out.
		They are doing the same thing.
		It has become mainstream and corporate to fly the red salute.
		And people say, Tim's being disingenuous.
		It's actually the Black Power salute.
		Yeah, and what did the alt-right say when they marched?
		They said they weren't doing a Nazi salute.
		They were doing the Roman salute.
		I don't care what you call it.
		We know what it is.
		We know what you're doing.
		And people need to stop using the language of the cult and the communists.
		They're literally flying the red salute.
		That's what it is.
		That's what it's for.
		The Chinese communists to do it when they're sworn in.
		And people in this country don't want you to say it because it's bad, but it's their symbol.
		I don't even know why they use it.
		Maybe they shouldn't.
		It's overt.
		It's in your face.
		But they do.
		And what happens is, frogs boiling.
		Regular people, including conservatives, adopt their language.
		Autonomous zones.
		Black Lives Matter fist.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Good point.
		I don't like calling people white and black.
		I feel like that's adopting their language.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Homeless Ghetto instead of Autonomous Zone?
		Remember they couldn't even figure out the name, whether it was Chaz or Chop or whatever.
		No-Go Zone.
		Do you know what's so good?
		This producer I know randomly, he created a server in GTA V, his name's Brian, that he's recreating the leftist world of America.
		He recreated Chaz and Chop.
		It's his whole custom thing.
		He actually invited you.
		He wants to do a live where we all get a GTA V and stream it.
		And he's recreated a giant Pepe statue in the middle of the city.
		I drive all over the country for work and I would like to be a contributor of good news on the ground.
		How real life actually is from major cities to small towns.
		He showed me the chop and I was like, bro, that looks like a homeless encampment.
		And he goes, that's what Chaz always was.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		All right.
		We got McFlyin.
		Jesse Ryan says, long time listener, first time caller.
		I drive all over the country for work and I would like to be a contributor of good news
		on the ground.
		How real life actually is from major cities to small towns.
		I believe it would add to your show.
		Let me know.
		I don't think we would do it on this show, but it's something we would absolutely produce
		at four members of Timcast.com as a show.
		It would be great to have someone going around and talking to local shops, asking about the economy, about products, just focusing on the news.
		What do you think about what's going on with D.C., with the National Guard, with January 6th, etc.?
		So McFly and Jesse Ryan, send us an email to pitches at TimCast.com.
		James says our Founding Fathers signed their death certificate with the Declaration of Independence.
		If your safaris of being filmed in your actions... I don't know what that means.
		But they did.
		Many of them who signed died.
		Had their homes burned to the ground.
		Their families were ruined.
		It was a brutal and bold thing they did.
		Alright, Zach says, I'm not getting notifications for your live stream.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Make sure you click that bell button.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, it doesn't matter.
		Once YouTube decides they don't like you, they don't like you, and there you go.
		You're gone.
		Alright.
		No one to you says, tell Tim we aren't a constitutional democracy.
		We're a constitutional republic.
		Did I misspeak in one of my previous segments?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think you explicitly said that yesterday.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You ain't black says, second day in a row your live is glitching and not loading.
		They are coming for you, Tim.
		No, our internet got struck by lightning.
		I can't do anything until Verizon comes out.
		But we can have that IT guy come out first thing in the morning, whoever it is, send us an email.
		Kyle Ellis says, Tim, all these flags flying over embassies, God forbid they fly the Paumia flag.
		Something that has been important to actual patriots for, well, since America's been fighting wars.
		That's right.
		Here we go.
		Omega Resetsu says, Former Army, Regulation 671 dictates what can be sewn onto uniforms.
		The Gadsden flag is unauthorized.
		AF regs are based on Army regs.
		Oh, there you go.
		Mavro St.
		John says, The biggest thing I have ever disagreed with Tim is the idea about him stopping playing World of Warcraft because people can just be hunters in real life.
		People play video games to be things they can't be IRL.
		Well, of course!
		You can't throw fireballs in real life.
		People would have fun with that, so you play virtual reality.
		But you can get dopamine and endorphins and all that stuff from being physically active.
		You don't need video games.
		They're fun.
		I know.
		I get it.
		You know what I'm really disappointed?
		No sequel to Child of Light.
		That's a great game.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I haven't played it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's good.
		It's fantastic.
		Really great, simple, single-player RPG.
		Rather short story.
		But fun.
		Good fun.
		Good timing system for the RPG.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Are you a gamer, Elijah?
unidentified		No, this world is my role-playing game.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		I'm not even joking.
		I have so much fun in this world, like running around and just seeing that it's useless.
		Who wants to live forever?
		I'm glad God gave us an expiration date because, I mean, I don't want to die before my time, whatever that means, but let's just be honest.
		Like the idea of living to like 80 is pretty good.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's great.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm hugely into genetic therapy and like nicotinamide mononucleotide, the regrowth of the telomeres.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		I'll be done.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		At 80, just give me COVID.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, Gold818 says, Tim, fellow Long Islander over here, and the thing that Mara Gay was really complaining about was the Take Back Our Schools rally on Long Island.
		The event was led by Sean Farage of Loud Majority.
		He would be a great guest for your show, and Lydia, keep pushing those buttons.
		I will.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I'll write his name down.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, let's see what we got here.
		Brother Strato says, I actually agree with you, Tim.
		Well, there you go.
		I've never been around these people but I can't assume they have strong father figures.
		Right.
		That's all I would probably make a supposition there.
		sibling. I am wondering if sometimes a contributing factor is not being part of a family team."
		Yeah.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		I've never been around these people, but I can't assume they have strong father figures.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		That's all I would probably make a supposition there.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		All right, let's see.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Garhent says, stating the left advocates for child love isn't a stretch.
		Children are allowed to consent to reassignment surgery.
		The Left educates five-year-olds MNF together on... Some of these things I can't say on YouTube.
		The Left in CA is making sex ed mandatory for 6th grade.
		Yeah.
		Well, you know, there's a lot of, there's a, there's a lot of things that it's interesting because conservatives were like, I remember, you know, 10 years ago, if we do this, what's next?
unidentified		This?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the left was like, that's a fallacy.
		And then like a lot of those things actually happened.
		Yep.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's see.
		Eri, uh, Eri, uh, Eri Cha says, just remembered a metaphor.
		If the United States is a steel sword, immigrants are the carbon atoms within.
		In moderation, they strengthen the blade, but too much, and they form crystals that weaken the whole structure.
		Interesting.
		What is this?
		That's a tremendous compliment.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I love that!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But, uh, who's Fresh and Fit?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm not familiar.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		They are, oh, uh, oh, I don't know.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		It's a podcast.
unidentified		Sounds cool, though.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I like, I like the idea of Fresh and Fit.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That seems pretty cool.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		They are a podcast.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, you are sci-fi.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did I say Star Trek SG-1?
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		You did, and I actually didn't know because I was actually like, oh, I'm gonna go watch Star Trek.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		I didn't know it was that good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because I was saying is I used to watch Star Trek The Next Generation, and now I'm watching Stargate SG-1.
		Oh, it's Stargate.
		Yeah, I used to Star Trek.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		I don't have any job offers to say like posted jobs, but if you know some good epic sci-fi stuff, email me Elijah at slightlyoffensive.com because I need more.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Stargate.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's one.
		The movie is awesome.
		The movie is weird.
		I need a list.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The show, SG-1 is great.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, we'll start there.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, good show.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's really good.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		No job offers, but it's close.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		I'll take your opinion.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Dominic Bristow says, Tim, get the Starlink beta.
		I have signed up for Starlink a long time ago.
		Elon Musk, send me Starlink, please.
		We will never have this problem again.
		That would be fantastic.
		Dude, we had, when Forrest was here from Recoil Mag, he had night vision.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh my gosh.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you look up at the sky and I could see the satellites.
unidentified		Dude.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You could see Starlink.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That was amazing.
		It was like super high-tech night vision goggles.
		I mean, you could see shooting stars.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, dude.
		It's like if you want to make a wish, don't go outside and look up.
		Get night vision goggles, go outside and look up.
		And then you're like, okay, so I wish for this, I wish for that, I wish for this and this and this and this and this.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, bring a list.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, bring a list because it's non-stop.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's amazing.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		So great.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Where'd you get those?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, it was a guy who had them.
		He was here.
		Oh, bro, you could see the satellites.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		You're like, is this government issued or is just somebody bought?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't know. I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, no, no, legit ones.
		Real on top tier expensive.
		You can buy them like 10 grand or something crazy.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It was so cool.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Blue Boiler says, I assume you have security procedures in place
		in regards to bringing in an IT person from the outside.
		You know, I don't think I.
		I'm not entirely worried, but definitely.
		I know a bit about my infosec, so I'm like, we're not gonna let anybody come here.
		Obviously, I assume we're gonna get a big list of people saying they want to come, and they're gonna have to go and vet some of these people before they do.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I keep hearing Fauci's voice now when you talk.
unidentified		Droplets!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You know I droplets!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Storm Viking says, Ian, the Founding Fathers didn't murder anybody.
		It's called war.
		Please learn history and stop with your liberal BS.
		America was founded on freedom and other amazing ideas.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I mean, what about the savages?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I mean the Native Americans.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They called them that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Was that murder?
		Because they didn't consider them human.
		I don't know.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		I'll just say this, though, that the whole idea of us mass curing the natives... Whoa, what is this?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Sorry, uh... Not really true.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they were not exactly the most non-hostile people, too.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they were vicious.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Cannibalistic.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wait, wait, wait.
		Michael Alvarez says, Stephen Crowder literally just got his live stream deleted today for telling the truth.
		I'm over YouTube.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		What is the truth?
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Can anyone tell what he's saying?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The truth is subjective.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did they delete his show?
unidentified		I heard one of his videos got taken down, though.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But they didn't give him a strike?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Apparently not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Dude, he's like, I got one more strike and then they're gonna like...
		That's why you all need to go to timcast.com and become members.
		So here's what we're going to do.
		We are going to... Well, I'll read this one more just because someone says... Whoisjohngalt says... Hola!
		Not sure if my superchat got through.
		Did the network going in and out?
		Looking for admin with both IT experience and economics.
		I am your man.
		Send an email to jobsattimcast.com.
		Go to TimCast.com, become a member.
		We're gonna wrap this up quickly so that we can upload the recorded version immediately.
		We still have to record our bonus segment for our TimCast.com members, so you can follow us on Facebook and Instagram at TimCastIRL, help share our videos, helps grow, and then we direct people to the website.
		New websites coming up in the next week or so with a newsroom, and then we're going to be hiring journalists and building up that newsroom, so it's going to start very, you know, slow, but we're going to be getting there.
		It's really hard.
		I am doing all quality control myself, which means we can't grow as fast as many of these companies.
		You know what they do in New York?
		They hire someone and say, go hire 10 people, and they just trust them to do it.
		I can't do that, so we've got to make sure we vet all these people, and it's going to be difficult, and it's slow growth.
		But, uh, that's the plan, man.
		TimCast.com, become a member.
		You guys are gonna be excited.
		You're gonna love the new website.
		It looks amazing!
		I'm super stoked for it.
		We have an auction system, because we're gonna start doing events as soon as we can, which may be in the next couple of weeks, so people will be able to come out here, and we've got a new security system, and all this really great stuff, and, you know, we're armed to the teeth, all that good stuff, so, uh, you know, people will enjoy hanging out here for our special live events.
		And, uh, you can follow me personally at Timcast.
		We will be back live tomorrow, but, uh, you wanna shout anything out, Elijah?
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, first of all, congrats on the website.
		People don't realize how important it is, actually, to support there, because, believe me, people will be gone quicker than you think.
		If you guys wanna follow me, if you're still watching, whatever, thousands of people...
		Please go to my YouTube, Slightly Offensive, subscribe there.
		We are so shadowbanned.
		And I mean, we have emails where they've called us borderline content, which means that we are close to the border of fun.
		So we have a lot of fun.
		Go to Slightly Offensive or type my name, Elijah Schaefer, follow me or wherever else.
		And also please support Tim's website too, because...
		I'm just, an appeal to this is just saying I've had a lot of videos pulled and taken down too, and the Overton window keeps changing.
		And so who knows, it might be Crowder's stream today, this stream tomorrow.
		It's like, you've got to subscribe to the websites, but I'll subscribe to our YouTubes until they access.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You can follow me at iancrossland.net and at iancrossland on social media.
		I said earlier that you can't be a hero in China.
		I kind of, I don't really believe that.
		I think you can be a hero anywhere.
		Although I do find that that government seems to be making it challenging for people to rise up right now.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		China!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Maybe a greater hero will emerge from the the tumultuous environment.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Become a Great Hero, subscribe to Slightly Offensive on YouTube.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Awesome, nice.
		Squeeze it in there.
		And you guys may follow me on Twitter at Sour Patch Lids as I attempt to gain more followers than Sour Patch Kids.
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		And it's epic!
elijah schaffer ▲ ● ▼		Your Twitter is one of my few pleasure Twitters other than you and Greg Kelly.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I'm glad to be in the same class as Greg Kelly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on.
		Go to TimCast.com, become a member, and we're gonna upload the correct full recorded version of this to YouTube right now, and then we'll see you at TimCast.com around 11 or so.
		Thanks for hanging out.

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