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Timcast IRL - Biden Inflation Crisis Sparks Panic as CPI Signals Market Crash Coming w/Lee Smith
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Hey, good news everybody.
tim pool
It's the Biden inflation crisis.
Yay!
Consumer price index is up 5%, which is higher than Wall Street expected, and it means the cost of your goods are going to go way up.
And the best part is, it doesn't include fuel and food, because bacon is up 19%.
Yeah, that should ring alarm bells for everybody.
At the same time, this story about BlackRock, this investment firm buying up all these houses, it's going viral.
This Twitter thread, it's got like 25,000 retweets, and I talked about it, and Ben Shapiro chimed in.
In defense of Black Rock, and conservatives, and leftists, and basically everybody was like, yo, Ben, you're wrong on this one.
But we'll take a look at what his argument is, because it comes from like a freedom, libertarian kind of perspective.
I personally disagree with his perspective, and we'll break all that down.
And we got just a bunch of stuff going on, man.
California is facing a mega drought.
This is going to exacerbate the cost of goods.
So, I hope you're ready.
They're rationing in California.
They're issuing rations now because the water is so low.
It's gonna get bad, and it may be worse than the last drought.
So, I guess that means your avocados are gone, and I don't know, humans don't eat alfalfa, but that means your cows won't be eating alfalfa.
Maybe they'll get corn-fed beef.
But I think things are going to start getting worse because when you have Joe Biden pumping six trillion dollars into the economy with a spending package, meanwhile, they're also paying people not to work.
Demand is being artificially increased, while supply is being artificially decreased, and that is just a recipe for an economic explosion.
Maybe it's on purpose.
Joining us today to talk about all this stuff, we got author Lee Smith.
You wrote The Permanent Coup.
lee smith
That's right.
tim pool
How's it going?
You want to just do a little brief introduction of yourself?
lee smith
Yeah, well, first of all, it's great to be here.
Thanks very much.
A lot of fun.
Yeah, so I'm an author and that's my most recent book, The Permanent Coup.
And before that, I wrote a book in 2019 called The Plot Against the President.
True story of how Congressman Devin Nunes uncovered the biggest political scandal in US history.
And that was a book about Congressman Nunes' investigation into all of the Russia stuff.
And as it turns out, Donald Trump is not a Russian spy.
tim pool
Really?
lee smith
Yeah, surprisingly.
I hate to give away the ending of my book.
It's also a documentary movie, so I don't want to give away the ending, but I'll give a hint.
Donald Trump is not a Russian spy.
tim pool
Yeah, it turns out in the news today, Donald Trump did not clear Lafayette of the protesters for a photo shoot.
That was fake news.
We knew it was fake news.
At the time it was reported, we were like, they had pre-scheduled the clearing of the protesters.
lee smith
Yeah, it turns out that if you want to have a pretty good understanding of what happened during the four years of the Trump administration, you have to read everything in reverse.
You have to read everything backwards.
And that's really bad.
tim pool
I mean, it's good news for making an investment.
You know, when the media comes out and they say something, just do the opposite.
It's like, you ever see that Seinfeld episode where George Costanza is like, I'm doing everything the opposite, and like, my life's great.
Just whatever he would normally do, he does totally different, and it works for him.
Because everything he does normally screws up.
That's where we're at right now.
Just the media says it.
Just the opposite must be true.
lee smith
Absolutely.
You'd have done much better all throughout COVID and all throughout a lot of things if you just said like, well, if that's what The New York Times and The Washington Post and CNN is leading with, I'm going the other direction.
Because no sane person at this point would risk their own fate or the fate of their families on what's being reported in the press.
tim pool
Yeah, right on.
ian crossland
We got we got you know, especially like don't buy a house.
I hear the media is not telling people it's not a good time to buy a house.
Yeah.
tim pool
Bubble.
lee smith
Yeah.
Bad time to buy a house.
ian crossland
Get my house.
lee smith
Yeah.
Wait.
tim pool
Meanwhile, the biggest investment firms are buying them up.
So if it was a bad time to buy a house, why are they buying houses?
ian crossland
I'm so glad we're talking about BlackRock.
They've been on my radar for about eight months.
I started learning about them only within the last year.
And along with State Street and Vanguard, they're the, you know, one of the three top investment firms in the world.
So I'm also interested to see if State Street and Vanguard are getting in on this house buying spree.
tim pool
Are they?
They are?
unidentified
I don't know.
ian crossland
I haven't been able to find anything, but I just started looking into it.
lee smith
What's happening in the different cities?
New York, where I'm from originally, it makes me think about New York.
All the different people, I've heard some estimates, half a million people have left New York.
What's happening to all that real estate?
I mean, right?
We talk about how Bill de Blasio and Andrew Cuomo have run that city and have run that state into the ground.
For what?
Just because they're lunatics?
I believe they're lunatics, but is there something else going on?
tim pool
Well, De Blasio publicly stated they want to buy up the property on pennies on the dollar and turn it into public housing.
lee smith
Okay.
tim pool
Well, there you go.
lee smith
Right.
tim pool
All right, we got Sarah Pachulis.
lydia smith
I am also here in the corner, and I'm very excited to learn that reading the news with a mirror held up to it is the way to go, because that's what I've been doing, and it's worked great for me.
I'm going to continue doing that.
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Let's jump into this first story.
You may have seen the news I covered a little bit earlier today.
Consumer prices jumped 5% in May at the fastest, this is the fastest pace since the summer of 2008, just before the market went They say headline consumer prices rose 5% year-over-year in May, the fastest pace since August 2008, and higher than Wall Street expectations.
The 3.8% rise in the core inflation rate, which excludes foods and energy prices, was the sharpest increase in nearly three decades.
Surging used car prices helped drive much of the inflation gains.
Initial jobless claims totaled $376,000, a touch higher than the estimate.
I don't know exactly what's going to happen.
You got a bunch of weird articles and you can't really believe the news.
This is an official number.
Maybe it's lower.
Maybe the number's a lot higher.
We had Max Keiser on the show.
Many of you are probably familiar with Max.
He's the Orange Pill podcast guy and he's very, very bullish on Bitcoin.
He said the inflation rate's probably closer to 10 or 15% but the Fed's not going to tell you.
The government's not going to let you know because that would disrupt a whole bunch of the system.
Interest rates, social security payouts.
So they're going to try and say it's as low as possible.
Do we trust the mainstream media?
After everything I've seen in the past five years?
No.
How do I know this article about the Consumer Price Index is even real?
Maybe there is no Consumer Price Index.
I don't even know what to believe at this point.
But we do this other article which I found interesting.
This is an op-ed from the Seattle Times.
Don't ignore the warnings of an imminent market crash.
This guy says, Harry S. Denton Jr.
has been a soothsayer of sadness and gloom for ages now, and has spent a lot of time on the wrong side of the record bull market recovery since the financial crisis of 2008.
Currently, he is calling for the stock market to crash with lightning speed, potentially starting within the next six weeks.
Now, I don't know if that's true.
It sounds a bit outlandish.
It's probably one of the more...
I guess, doomsaying stories that are out there.
Because if you read mainstream media, they're telling everybody it's all gonna be okay.
They're like, oh yeah, it's just, you know, demand hasn't caught up to supply yet, and once it does, it's gonna be a big boom for everybody.
But, uh, something doesn't feel right.
It feels...
ian crossland
Just like I wasn't there, but right before the Great Depression, 1920, it just this I was studying it.
It's like this is what happened.
The inflation starts in it.
The crash is like a three month process or of several.
It's a multi month.
It doesn't just happen in three days.
And so we're probably in the middle of it right now.
That's why we're seeing 15 percent inflation across the board.
tim pool
How many people have been following the GameStop AMC stock?
Now, I think there's a potential danger there.
Of course, they're saying it's going to be a big short sell.
Everyone's going to make a ton of money.
I have some AMC stock, so we'll see.
But I don't have a lot of risk.
I'm not exposed all that much.
I don't have that much money.
A little bit of AMC stock, not a whole lot.
And a lot of people are leveraging hard for these meme stocks.
And, you know, Ian's saying it's a lot like the Great Depression.
lee smith
Yes.
tim pool
What happens when a bunch of working-class people put tons of money into, say, like, Dogecoin or something, or these meme stocks, and they leverage hard against it?
So you've got... Some people have said they've leveraged all their assets and their credit lines to buy, like, a hundred K in AMC because they know it's gonna go up.
What happens when that pops?
What if there is a market crash in six weeks?
lee smith
Is that what's happening, you think?
I mean, is that...
You think people are getting... I mean, I remember before there was some concern and not knowing enough about the market.
There was some concern, it seemed legitimate, that some people might be getting lured into this unwittingly.
Do you think that some of that's been happening?
tim pool
You know, I don't know.
I'm bullish on crypto.
And I'll tell you this, if you look at the market pre-2008 crash, the people who held on to their assets for dear life, They made out like bandits.
lee smith
Right.
tim pool
The market recovered and boom, they're back up.
But a lot of people, you know, I hear these stories.
I was not alive during the Great Depression and believe it or not, I'm only 35.
But the stories I heard was that people were making all this money in the stock market.
And so once they saw how everyone else was getting rich, they started buying on margin.
They started, you know, leveraging their assets and credits to buy all the stock.
And then when it dropped, they were like, my life is over.
So what if that's happening now?
What if these people think?
And I don't want to be bearish on these things.
Look, I bought AMC.
I'm actually of the opinion it's probably going to go up and it's the hedge funds that are going to eat it.
But if the hedge funds eat it and they get a bailout, I mean, there's going to be a massive wave of something that hits everybody.
lee smith
Well, I think this comes back to what you were talking about before with the houses and real estate.
I think that people, even though they're trying to warn people, don't worry about anything.
People see the signs.
People see what's happening with inflation and what are people doing.
People want to buy houses, even though they understand that with inflation, the value is going to take a hit, but that's something that's long-term.
And I hear people all the time, friends, not necessarily finance professionals, saying put your money in something real that's going to last.
We know different commodities like artwork, even things I hear people talking about, not just Bitcoin, baseball cards, things like that.
tim pool
NFTs, see those NFTs?
Non-fungible tokens.
lee smith
Oh, right, right.
tim pool
People are spending ridiculous amounts of money on nonsense.
So I gotta I gotta wonder, man, if you got a bunch of young people right now.
So I mean, I think about this, like, who are these people who are who are the retail investors that are investing heavily in crypto and these meme stocks?
And what if what if there is a market crash?
I mean, we're looking at consumer prices skyrocketing.
People are worried about the dollar.
I don't know.
I don't know.
ian crossland
It's the margin.
It's the margins that make me nervous.
So I bought a bunch of crypto, Ethereum, and then I took out a loan to buy more Ethereum, basically a margin on margin with my own crypto.
And so the Ethereum went from like $1,100 to $800 value.
And they were like, margin call, if this goes to $700, we're gonna have to sell all your Ethereum and pay back the loan that you took out.
And I started to sweat.
It went back up as I had anticipated and I was lucky and I just, I just cleared my margin.
I can't, I'm not sitting on a margin right now.
Like, yeah, if it, if the economy crashes, it will recover.
So if you're holding assets, you'll be, they'll still recover.
tim pool
But if you're holding on margin and they do a call and then they take everything from you.
ian crossland
That's the problem.
And I can't give advice, but that's what I did was I cleared my margins.
tim pool
It's creepy.
I don't know.
I mean, maybe the meme stocks are just going to skyrocket.
But it's beyond all this.
It's not just, you know, the crypto and stuff.
It's Joe Biden.
You know, they're still doing this $300 a week unemployment stimulus thing.
But I think around like 30 states or so have like now canceled it.
lee smith
Right.
tim pool
Because people got to get back to work.
lee smith
A lot of the red states are trying to block this, get people back to work.
In the state we're in now, South Carolina, the governor has at least tried to put his foot down, and I think that's happening in other red states too.
People are concerned about it.
How are we going to get Americans back to work?
Because you can see it also undermining local and state economies as well.
It's really dangerous.
tim pool
Yeah, I have to wonder.
When you look at some of these charts, there's a vaccination chart we talked about a couple times.
NPR put it out.
The states with the highest rate of vaccination are all blue.
The state with the lowest vaccination are all red.
The only states that defy that anomaly are the states that, you know, Trump and Trump supporters are contesting for the, you know, in the election, which is also, you know, just kind of a funny thing to point out.
But I have to wonder, you know, the red states are clearly defiant to the blue states.
The blue states want hard lockdowns, they want command economy, they want total economic control.
At what point do the red states just say no?
Because with Texas and Florida reopening and banning vaccine passports, clearly they're telling Biden to go shove it.
But I mean, can this keep up for the next few years?
What happens when, you know, as I pointed this out the other day, if someone who lives in Texas can't go to Washington because they have vaccine passports, right?
So I just bring that up in the context of, you know, where we're at economically and how, what did we see before COVID?
These blue states were in massive debt.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, it's reparations, in a sense.
spiraling and then all of a sudden we get COVID. Then as soon as Joe Biden gets in, he starts handing out all the
cash, which is a tax on people in those red states, taking the money from the middle class, devaluing their currency
lee smith
and their savings account. Yeah, it's reparations and in a sense, but to the wealthy blue states, right? No, it's
brutal because also it's it's there's also it's it's not just political payoff, right?
You're hurting also your enemies, right?
You're taking the money from red states and handing it off to blue states.
And why?
Because even though that you destroyed your city, even though you were part of rioting last spring and summer and you tore your city to shreds, don't worry, Joe Biden's got the bill.
Don't worry, you can keep this all closed.
Don't worry, people don't have to work because Uncle Joe's covering it.
tim pool
Yeah, it was basically like, let them burn everything down, blame it on Trump, and then Joe Biden will cover the debts.
lee smith
Absolutely.
tim pool
They sacrificed the people of this country for political gain.
So, how long until the red states are just like, nah, ain't doing it.
lee smith
I mean, I don't know.
What's happening now?
I mean, it's interesting.
Are people saying, are people saying, yeah, just, you know, if you're going to come here, you know, if you're going to come here, behave yourself.
If you're going to come to the red states, if you're going to come to Florida, I mean, what, Florida's still getting, they must still be getting maybe more, a thousand, a thousand new residents a day.
So who's going down there?
tim pool
And in Texas, the rumor is you can't buy a house from anywhere.
Everyone's just desperately trying to buy everything up in Texas.
unidentified
Fine.
tim pool
But I think about the conundrum here is that, you know, Washington, New York, they're starting to
increase the vaccine passport things. They're putting restrictions on who can come there
while Texas and Florida are doing the opposite. That means these blue states will be able to
reap the benefits and the rewards of the labor of these red states, not the other way around.
We're getting to this dangerous point where, I mean, we're really close to neo-feudalism.
lee smith
Do people want to go?
I mean, it's the people.
Do people want to go to New York?
Right.
When you're saying I can't go to New York unless I have a covid passport, I said, OK, I won't go to New York.
tim pool
What if you work for American Airlines out of Dallas Fort Worth?
lee smith
That's bad.
Right.
And you fly into you got to fly in for a meeting.
tim pool
They say, OK, so we got a, you know, senior VP in Dallas.
Hey, we got a meeting with, you know, someone from the New York, you know, JFK administration or whatever, Port Authority.
lee smith
You can't go, sorry.
It might be an exciting time in the country, politically, where the states start reasserting what they're about, and you have, therefore, you have the governor of Texas and others saying, stepping up for American Airlines, if that's the way it's gonna go, stepping up and saying, we're looking out for our business as well, and we understand, and here's how we're gonna push back against New York.
If New York tries to hurt our business, Our business people, we're going to push back on them in this way.
tim pool
But I think the problem is, it's always going to favor those who are the most stubborn in terms of the negotiation, right?
So if New York says, look, the people of New York demand the Excelsior pass, if you want to come here and go into this building, you need your pass.
And then Texas can complain all they want, and New York will be like, look, you want business from us?
What are you gonna do about it?
The issue is, you've got stubborn New York making a demand, and you've got more libertarian, or libertarian-esque Dallas-Fort Worth, you know, people saying, fine, we'll just do it, it's easier, and we get the deal done.
So the pressure from the stubborn states will work on those who are less concerned about some of these issues.
lee smith
It's easier in some ways if Texas voters, for instance, I mean, this is, you know, for instance, if Texas voters say, if you make that deal, you're in big trouble.
If the governor makes that deal and is going to force us to conduct our business... No, no, I don't mean that.
tim pool
I mean, American Airlines employee.
lee smith
Right.
tim pool
He's got a meeting in New York with some big company for food or something.
New York says, you must be vaccinated.
You must have your Excelsior pass.
No one in Texas is going to force this guy to do it.
He just literally can't do the meeting.
lee smith
Right.
tim pool
And so what will happen is the employees at American Airlines will just choose to abide by New York law.
lee smith
Yeah, this is a big thing.
That's going to compel different people.
If their living depends on whether or not they have to get the shot, maybe there will be different consortiums of states.
Maybe Texas and Florida and Idaho will find some way to team together and break some of the coastal powers.
unidentified
Maybe.
tim pool
I just think everyone takes the path of least resistance.
Or most people do.
So long as New York puts these heavy pressures on people, if they want money and access, they'll just give in to whatever New York wants.
Or Washington, or whatever state they gotta operate in.
It can be relaxed in New York, but they will just set the standard for the most difficult.
So my concern at this point is, maybe you're right, maybe a bunch of states form regional compacts.
Aren't we just talking about states aligning against states?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, we saw that in 2020.
Yeah.
48 states were involved in lawsuits against each other.
lee smith
Right.
tim pool
That was crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
lee smith
Right.
That's what it's, in a sense, it's kind of an interesting time.
tim pool
May you live in interesting times.
lee smith
Yeah.
Well, I don't want it to be that interesting, of course.
You know, but I mean, look, if we talk all the time about how dire things are, how drastic things are, what kind of times, what kind of interesting times we're living in, then the very least people are gonna have to stand up and say, like, you know what?
I don't know.
I'm gonna have to make a decision.
Do I want to get this shot to be able to do business in New York?
Or how do I get around this?
Or what are the different compacts I'm going to make with colleagues, with political powers?
How are we going to push back on this?
tim pool
I think a lot of what we're seeing with the artificial inflation of demand and the suppression of supply feels like the Great Reset.
You're familiar with the Great Reset and all that?
It's mass social conditioning where if you abruptly come out like Bloomberg, you know, Michael Bloomberg in New York City wanted to tax sodas or whatever, and he was like, we should tax the poor because they're too stupid.
If you come out right away and prohibit something, people will revolt.
You've taken something from them.
But if you just, It's not available!
And then over a couple of weeks, people break their routines, and within a month, nobody cares anymore.
They forget about whatever that was.
You can mass socially engineer people by shutting down the supply for certain things.
So, you get people, as many people as possible, not to work, you limit the amount of stuff, wait a month, and then people won't be looking for stuff.
They'll be completely over it.
So it feels like, with that and with the housing market stuff, it's very much a, you will own nothing, and you will be happy.
unidentified
Right.
lee smith
We'll see when we come to a limit.
I mean, there's a writer I like very much whose name is Lee Harris.
We share a first name.
And the argument that he makes is that a lot of American freedom, what a lot of American freedom is about is about American stubbornness.
It's not necessarily people saying all the time, I have these wonderful high ideals.
I have these marvelous principles I must live by.
It's more like, you can't tell me to do that.
I'm just not gonna do it.
tim pool
Right?
I think we saw in the past year that more than half the country will just do that.
lee smith
Yeah.
Absolutely.
ian crossland
I had last night, I had kind of a reckoning where I was, I saw some image of like, if you don't have, if you're not vaccinated, you don't have a vaccine card, you can't come in like to a restaurant somewhere, some picture on Twitter.
And I just resigned myself to all the things that I'll never be able to do.
And I'm okay with it.
Maybe I'll never go to Europe.
Maybe I'll never travel around Asia.
Maybe I'll never go back to New York city.
lee smith
This was a European restaurant.
ian crossland
I don't know.
It was just a picture.
It was in English.
The sign was, I imagined it was New York city.
I don't know for sure, but you know, sad, but whatever.
I'm stubborn.
lee smith
Right.
tim pool
They're doing vaccine segregation in a lot of these places.
It's not outright banning.
lee smith
Well, a lot of these places, I mean, if you're talking about restaurants in New York, I mean, New York is not in great shape.
When you think about what's going to happen, what will the power of New York look like?
Will New York have the power to set the agenda like that?
A lot of commercial real estate is Commercial real estate in New York, I assume, is in really bad shape right now.
Why?
Because people have figured out, after three decades of talking about telecommuting, people have actually telecommuted, right?
They defunded the police.
They let rioters run wild in the streets of New York.
Without the commercial real estate, how many restaurants are you going to have?
So how many restaurants are going to be able to afford, say, unless you have that vaccine, you can't come in here?
They'll be like, please come in.
We'll sit you at a nice table right here.
tim pool
Depends on how much of a Karen people of New York are.
Because if you get, it's really about the demand.
If people in New York are just like, you, we're not conservatives, we're not Republicans, why aren't you testing for vaccines?
Vice.com said, you know, we have vaccine passports, why aren't we using them?
We should be mandated.
People in New York are going to be demanding.
What I'm worried is they'll go to a cafe and they'll open the door and go, excuse me, I could not but notice you don't have any vax testing or Excelsior pass.
No, we don't do it here.
I'm not going here.
That's unsafe.
And then, oh, no, no, no, no.
We'll do it.
We'll do it.
We'll implement that.
lee smith
I don't know.
What are the chances?
New Yorkers like to pride themselves on being very tough and hardy.
So what are the chances are people going to say like, well, we're going to open up the, we're going to open up the fireman's bar where people come in here.
You know, we've got a couple of firemen and firemen and cops who own this bar.
And believe me, you don't have to wear a mask to get in here.
Some people don't even wear pants to get in here.
So welcome.
Come on in.
tim pool
I guess it just depends on, you know, you look at the conformity of the modern left, and it's also because, um, it's also people who are more likely to be conservative, or at least they were liberals who became disaffected, they left these places.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
They leave New York, they leave LA, they leave Chicago.
And so the people who remain are the culty, fallen line, you know, do whatever they're told.
lee smith
A lot of them, though, they've moved out to places like Connecticut, or they've moved out to Long Island, or they're just hiding in their apartments.
They're not going out at all.
They're barely going out at all.
tim pool
If you look at everything that happened last year, it's very much a restriction on supply and forcing people to move out of cities.
It's amazing.
I mean, you have this great reset from the World Economic Forum where it says in 10 years you will own nothing, you'll be happy.
Then you get all these, you should eat the bugs articles.
You don't want to buy a house, don't buy a house.
Just be a renter for the rest of your life and don't have a family, don't have kids.
lee smith
Yeah.
The Bugs articles, actually I kind of get a kick out of that.
Because it just seems so absurd and it seems so over the top.
I read those Bugs articles and I think that they're actually gooning the tech guys.
Because a lot of those guys in Silicon Valley are so hyped up on hygiene.
Whenever I read those articles, I imagine they're actually talking to Bill Gates.
Bill Gates is grossed out by beef.
What is he thinking about eating cicadas?
So, actually, I get a kick out of those pieces.
tim pool
Yeah, but, you know, when the Great Reset... I mean, it's happening now.
When they take away the beef, I shouldn't say take it away, because I don't think they're going to ban beef.
I think what's going to happen is we're already facing beef and chicken shortages.
It's just becoming economically difficult to perform for whatever reason, be it regulatory or otherwise.
Well, I assure you, like, have you seen the movie V for Vendetta?
lee smith
Oh yeah, sure.
tim pool
When Natalie Portman's in V's headquarters and she's like, is this real butter?
And he's like, yes.
It's like, where did you get it?
And he goes from Chancellor Sutler's, you know, private train carriage or whatever.
Yeah, the elites, they're going to have the sweetest, juiciest, grass-fed filet mignon, and you're going to be eating cell-grown, fatless ground chuck.
lee smith
Is it in Soylent Green, or is it in one of the Planet of the Apes movies, where Charlton Heston comes upon a beautiful strawberry?
And then it's just a single strawberry.
Yeah, right.
tim pool
But that's Planet of the Apes then, right?
Because Heston was in Planet of the Apes?
lee smith
Yeah, he was also in Soil and Grain, though.
Remember that?
That's right.
I've never seen it.
unidentified
It's fantastic.
lee smith
And he's got the great scene at the end of Planets.
tim pool
Was the movie called Soil and Grain?
lee smith
I think, yeah.
Yeah, sure.
unidentified
What's that?
tim pool
The movie was called Soil and Grain?
lee smith
Edward G. Robinson.
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
It's so long ago.
tim pool
I haven't seen it.
lee smith
Oh, yeah.
It's big, especially now.
People talk freaking out about beef.
And, you know, it's a great fun movie.
tim pool
Do you hear Starbucks is having shortages of, like, lids, cups, syrups, apples?
lee smith
For what?
tim pool
There's mass shortages across the board.
I'll tell you, I saw this story today.
It said Starbucks facing shortages across the nation.
And I was like, you know what?
I'm going to brag, because if you've been watching this show, I've been warning about the shortages that are coming.
So a month ago or longer, maybe even two months ago, I was like, hey, something really weird's happening.
There's meat shortages, but it's only being reported in local markets.
Like, you look at Omaha local news and they're like, hey, we got no meat.
But nationally, no one's saying anything about it.
All of a sudden, now the stories are trying to pop up.
Chicken and beef shortages.
Starbucks' shortage of plastic goods, cups, lids.
They're saying people are coming into Starbucks, they can't get their favorite drinks, there's no mocha.
Someone sent me a photo from a Starbucks in the DC area, and it's just like, there's like a list on the door saying like, we're out of these things, and it's just like, nothing.
They have nothing, they have coffee.
Yeah.
ian crossland
It's a great beginning to like a zombie apocalypse.
There's no plastic.
I can't get my mocha.
lee smith
Well, here's something I was really surprised about.
Today I picked up some gum at the airport coming in and there was a sign at the cashiers, and maybe you guys have heard of this.
I have not.
There is now a national coin shortage.
tim pool
Did you know that?
Yeah, it's been going on for a year.
ian crossland
Oh, it is?
lee smith
And I just heard about it.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
That's really weird stuff happening.
Really?
How does that happen?
lee smith
What is the explanation for the national coin shortage?
ian crossland
They probably want to make ammo.
Maybe they're pulling the copper off the pennies.
Although they're mostly zinc carving.
tim pool
For a jacket?
Copper jacket?
lee smith
I don't know.
ian crossland
I think what's in nickel is zinc and nickel, I think.
tim pool
I think they don't use copper anymore, you know, because it's too valuable.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Now they're using zinc and other zinc.
ian crossland
Most nickels are like 95 percent zinc and they're coated in nickel now.
They used to be pure nickel.
lee smith
But a shortage.
I mean, this is just bizarre.
lydia smith
I came up with people just not using cash.
And I was like, yeah, people are ordering everything.
lee smith
I know.
I've seen that, too.
People aren't people freak out now.
People freak out sometimes in your hand.
unidentified
Right.
Dirty.
lee smith
Oh, my God.
tim pool
Whether whether it's intentional or not, it's very much a massive societal transformation.
You know, so it could just be, oh, you know, geez, you know, this pandemic happened, and then all of a sudden, this, you know, these big shifts cause massive societal change.
It's interesting when you read about the Great Reset, they talk about the conspiracy theory of it, and I can't figure out what they're accusing of being a conspiracy theory.
So if you look up the Wikipedia page for the Great Reset, it's like, the Great Reset is a proposal from the World Economic Forum and international, you know, interests that are advocating for a reset of global capitalism, to change the behaviors of people, and yadda yadda, instill a more stakeholder-focused view of the world, and, you know, save the planet, there's a big list of things they want.
And then it says, a section says, conspiracy theory.
But it doesn't actually say what's a conspiracy about it.
It's like, many people on the far right claim there's a conspiracy theory.
And I'm like, okay, if you just told me There's literally wealthy elites, the Davos group, advocating for these things that are literally happening.
I'm not sure what you're accusing of being the conspiracy theory in this.
I don't know where that's at.
It's like, this is literally a thing.
Now, I guess the conspiracy theory is that they faked COVID or whatever, which I don't think.
That's ridiculous.
I think we're learning now with Lab League stuff, it seems like a big screw-up on their part, on the part of the Wuhan lab and Fauci's funding and all that stuff.
But they're certainly exploiting the crisis for some kind of great reset.
lee smith
Yes, absolutely.
Having some experiences being called a conspiracy theorist, having reported on the having reported on Russiagate and having reported what really happened that the FBI The FBI spied on, you know, spied on Donald Trump that this is what was going on.
Donald Trump is not a Russian agent, is not a Russian spy.
Yeah, basically whatever they're using, whenever they're using the label conspiracy theorist, they're using it to smear someone.
I want to make a correction about the pennies and nickels.
Pennies are made of zinc, coated with copper.
Nickels are made of a 75% copper, 25% nickel alloy.
is a lunatic. It needs to be dismissed.
ian crossland
I want to make a correction about the pennies and nickels.
Pennies are made of zinc coated with copper.
Nickels are made of a 75% copper, 25% nickel alloy.
tim pool
So that's a lot of copper.
Aren't they worth more in copper than they are in nickels now?
Like as currency?
lydia smith
Sounds right.
ian crossland
Maybe that's why there's a coin?
unidentified
Probably.
lee smith
That's right.
They've got to figure it out.
tim pool
I mean, that's always been, I think, I think, uh, yeah, that the metals are worth more than the pennies themselves.
I was reading that.
I don't know.
What's the...
What's copper?
What copper's currently at?
I don't know.
I think I was reading somewhere a few years ago, it was like a nickel's copper- a nickel, which is the coin, has a certain amount of copper, which is worth like 7.5 cents.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Or like 7 cents, but the nickel itself is only worth 5, so... It's illegal to do this, my understanding.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's worth about 7 cents, a nickel.
tim pool
That's what it says.
That's what this says.
A nickel's metal is worth 7 cents.
lydia smith
How interesting.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Is that what it says?
ian crossland
Yeah.
According to coins.fund, thefundtimesguide.com.
I've never heard of it, but yeah.
tim pool
When was the last time anyone's held a nickel, to be honest?
lee smith
I haven't really.
I haven't in a little while.
tim pool
Yeah, it's been a few years.
lee smith
My son just got a piggy bank with seven pennies.
It was the only seven pennies in the house.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
It's only it's only been about eight months.
I have a bag of change for my piggy bank.
ian crossland
Well, this is a way to keep up with inflation if we can just start treating those coins as seven cents worth.
They don't have to be worth 5 cents.
tim pool
That's why they wore metal.
ian crossland
But it just changed the value of the coins.
tim pool
Used to be nickel.
ian crossland
A quarter gives you 30 cents, a nickel gives you 7.
tim pool
Used to be silver.
You can buy bags of old silver American currency and it's worth way more.
That's a really weird thing.
I was reading stories about how people would seek out specific nickels, melt them down.
Get the cop around, you make money.
ian crossland
Sounds like they are doing that.
tim pool
Think about what that means.
Again, I'm pretty sure it's illegal so you don't do this.
But you could go to a bank and be like, I would like all of your nickels.
I just need nickels.
It's an arcade machine I got back home.
So here's a hundred bucks.
Give me the nickels.
And then you get two cents per nickel.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think it is illegal to destroy currency.
lydia smith
It's federal property.
ian crossland
On purpose.
lee smith
Well, then I've got a different idea, kind of a variation on this.
You know, in Washington, D.C., they charge you five cents at the cashier if you want a bag.
That's why a lot of people take their own bags from home.
But I figured I would I would set up a little stand in front of a lot of the major supermarkets selling plastic bags for three cents.
Undercut them and basically wipe out giant and stuff like that.
tim pool
Three cents.
unidentified
Yeah.
lee smith
Three cents.
tim pool
You need a bag.
lee smith
That's right.
They got a bag for three cents.
You need an umbrella, too.
ian crossland
This sounds similar to the book that you're working on.
A lot of the stuff you're studying about.
I wonder, have you studied The Global Reset?
The Great Reset?
lee smith
Through different.
Again, my my main focus the last couple of years has been the corruption of our elites.
So, yes, absolutely.
The way that our elites have been targeting have been targeting the American public.
Absolutely.
This is this is definitely an important aspect of this.
ian crossland
Have you been able to track any connections to any of that stuff?
lee smith
What I would say is, again, my main interest right now is looking in particular at our
elites in China.
So if we're talking about different combinations, in a sense the Chinese Communist Party is the platform for the global realignment.
If you're talking about the Great Reset, the Chinese, that's why it was very important to get the Chinese into the World Trade Organization in 2001.
That's why it was very important for the Clinton administration in 1994 to de-link human rights from trade.
And I want to make clear, while I think that the way the Chinese government, the Chinese Communist Party, treats its own citizens is something that we should be paying attention to, our main focus as Americans and our leaders should be on American human rights and how Americans are treated.
My point, however, is when you saw, and this was bipartisan, it wasn't just Bill Clinton.
Remember, this started with Henry Kissinger, right?
It started with Kissinger reaching out to China, the opening there.
So yes, I think we've seen steady progress starting, certainly exaggerated, in 1994.
I think that our elites, basically American elites specifically, gave up on American democracy.
And this was the deal they made.
China happened to be the great power with an enormous cheap labor force.
But absolutely, this is what's been going on.
It's not by accident.
It's purposeful, right?
And you go back and you look at the different reports from the period.
If you see what's still happening now, right?
No one is embarrassed at this point.
When they talk about the Great Reset as a conspiracy theory, no one is embarrassed to say these different things.
Joe Biden wasn't embarrassed.
It's amazing.
first day in office to get rid of the Keystone Pipeline.
None of them are embarrassed about it, how much this is gonna hurt the American people.
They're all very upfront about it, they don't care.
tim pool
It's amazing, I mean, this past election was the country itself versus subversion of the country.
You had people genuinely convinced Trump was the subversion when Trump was actually the pro-America guy.
Joe Biden is the very much, I could care less about Americans.
Kamala Harris, I could care less about Americans.
They don't care at all.
lee smith
Right.
The language, one of the most important things I think that's happened as part of the political and part of the spiritual and part of the intellectual moves against us, The way that the language has changed, right?
I know that this is something that you guys are interested in, which is fascinating to me.
The idea of left and right, liberal and conservative, how these things have flipped around.
Well, I'm sorry, how is it a liberal or a left-wing value to start siding with what the FBI is doing to American citizens?
Since when is that a left-wing value?
Since when is it a liberal value to think That immigration, mass illegal immigration that is designed to hurt American working people, including Latinos, right?
That this is a liberal thing.
Just let people in here and we're going to drive the prices down and we're going to hurt American workers.
How is that a liberal thing?
None of these things are liberal.
tim pool
It's one of the greatest de-radicalizations in the history of this country.
I mean, I know tons of hackers, former anonymous individuals, you know, the Anonymous Hacking Group and Antifa, who are posting on Facebook celebrating the FBI.
And I, you know, I commented to them like, just, I'm glad to hear that you guys have finally come to your senses and you respect the federal government and you're in line with law enforcement.
lee smith
How did this happen?
How did it happen?
I mean, what do they say?
tim pool
They just say, yeah, well, Trump's a fascist, so it's good.
And I was like, yeah, yeah, support the federal government when they go after your political enemies.
I've been telling you this, right?
You support when the FBI goes after political dissidents.
It's fantastic.
I want to talk about this BlackRock thing, because Ben Shapiro has made this statement.
Basically defending BlackRock.
And before we get into specifics of Ben Shapiro's statement, I'll pull up his tweet.
I believe they have it, I guess they don't have Ben Shapiro's?
lydia smith
How do they not?
tim pool
That's like a weird thing to do.
Anyway, but we'll talk about Ben Shapiro's statement.
I want to point out, I just was denied for a home loan.
So this was something I've been working on for the past several months.
And I'll leave the details a bit private for now.
Maybe I'll talk about it once I get more information from the company that denied.
But it's been a weird go of things.
So I've been through the mortgage process before.
I am very capable of getting a mortgage.
My credit is fantastic.
My income is fantastic.
And they said no.
And what I'm learning now, because I tweeted about this, is that they have sent false credit, to my understanding, false credit report information used to stop me from being able to get a loan in the house.
It all seems very strange.
It's been, I think, three months of agents being swapped around, demanding the same documents over and over and over again, maybe like six or seven times.
And then when we do, a new person pops up and says, hey, I'm the agent now, now you gotta send it again.
It really feels like they're trying to stop us.
There was a point where I was like, are we just going to cancel this?
Because this is insane.
Why won't they just say no?
No, they're really trying to sludge us up so we can't buy.
At the same time, you have this viral story about a company called BlackRock, as well
as a bunch of other investment firms, that are buying up houses, paying 20 to 50 percent
above market.
I had a bunch of people tweeting at me in response to this thread, where they're saying
things like, one guy says, you know, I wanted to buy a house that was 300K, I had more than
enough money in the bank for a decent down payment and closing costs, and then an investment
company came in and bid 20,000 above my offer, and I countered, and they put another 20,
I just couldn't compete with them.
So this is the kind of thing that's been happening, shutting out people from being able to buy
homes.
Now, full disclosure, I'm fine without a lender.
I just thought it was irresponsible.
You know, there's other things I'd like to invest in, particularly hiring journalists
and running a company and putting it back into this operation.
But you know.
I don't know.
I I guess for regular working class people, they're not going to have these advantages or these opportunities.
And I think, I was just kind of shocked because, you know, I did not see this coming.
To be, you know, swatted down.
So I want to get into, with that being said, the reason I bring that up is just to express my feeling of unease, weariness, confusion, and it just feels really weird.
At the same time, I'm having this absurd difficulty getting a house.
I'm seeing these stories from Vox and from Mediaite and from Business Insider.
Don't buy a house.
It's a bubble.
You don't want to own property.
No, no, no.
It's a bad idea.
Millennials regret it.
It's interesting.
It's a really amazing thing.
I mean, owning a house is fantastic.
Your costs are cheaper per month than renting.
Yet they're telling people not to do it.
ian crossland
So when they say it's a bubble, that means if you buy a 500, the argument is if you buy a $500,000 house now in a year, it's going to be worth $350,000 and you're going to have a loan on it that's cost more than the value.
tim pool
Yes.
So you can't sell your stuff.
ian crossland
But if you buy it at face value, it's going to be worth less, but it doesn't really matter because you already own the property.
tim pool
I just really don't think that BlackRock and his other firms putting in 50 percent above market expect to lose that money.
ian crossland
I think they're going to try and flip it.
I would imagine they're going to they're going to ride the inflation and then sell it and make money off it or start rent or just rent it out.
tim pool
No, they're converting a bunch of these into single-family rentals.
So we're dangerously close to the point where these large international investment funds own all the property, the property value skyrockets, you can't buy it, and then you become what's called a vassal.
Do you know what a vassal is?
ian crossland
I am familiar with that.
tim pool
So when the feudal lord would say, in exchange for this grant of land to you, you provide the landlord with some kind of, you know, service or function.
ian crossland
But at that point, only the landlord would be the vassal of the lord, you of the king, you would be the serf of the vassal.
You wouldn't even have vassalage status because you own nothing.
lee smith
Right, right, right.
I think one of the bad things about this is how uh not just that this is bad what they're doing but that i think a lot of people would find this to be ideal right i mean we're looking we're looking at a time um we're looking at a time where a lot of people are acting like monads right they're individual units well we're looking at the we're looking at the breakup of different things if we see what happened
During covid during the during the riots right communities were attacked, right?
We're looking right now at attacks on different parts of America different parts of the country desecration of our symbols desecration of our history.
It's like if people if you're telling people.
You shouldn't have families.
Your communities are bad.
Your communities are stupid.
Your communities are racist.
If that's how you're attacking them right there, then aren't people going to say, like, yeah, well, I don't know.
Why do I want to own a home and help build this community?
If people are telling me that having a community like this is bad, that it's racist, it's dumb, it's vulgar, it's whatever, why do I want to do this?
tim pool
I think there's a real risk, too, if you get a house in the wrong area.
Someone's going to come and smash it up and then you're screwed.
lee smith
That's a terrible thing.
tim pool
Let me show you what Ben Shapiro said.
So Ben Shapiro engaged in this story from the Wall Street Journal, saying, I see many people are enraged at BlackRock.
BlackRock is buying homes from people willing to sell them.
If you don't like what they're doing, target the loose governmental policy incentivizing this sort of investment.
Seriously, BlackRock isn't going to stop investing in single-family homes because you're mad on Twitter.
But you could direct your energies towards stopping the Fed's insane monetary policy, which is driving down the cost of loans and creating a massive bubble.
If BlackRock is willing to take the risk of leveraging up to buy single-family housing at above-market prices, that's their prerogative.
So long as they own the downside risk, no bailouts ever.
And if you're mad at BlackRock and want to artificially prevent them from buying single-family homes, I'd like for you to explain to those who currently own the homes why you're taking money out of their pockets.
So, my first response to Ben's tweet, with respect, would be, I wonder what his opinion is on Chinese nationals buying up homes from people above market.
What's the difference between international investment firms who are taking away because of their ability to get access to federally printed money from the Fed, Federal Reserve, They're artificially able to out-compete the middle class, taking away the middle class's opportunity for home ownership.
But what about China?
I mean, if someone comes to me and says, you know, a Chinese national wants to buy my house for above market, I mean, I'm going to say no.
I'm going to say I don't feel comfortable selling to foreign interests at a time when the middle class and the working class in my own country is hurting.
If we actually in this nation had scruples, then people who own the homes might be like, I am not going to sell to this massive investment firm.
In fact, I've talked to people who have told me they were selling and they were saying that they're going to make sure it doesn't go to any one of these big corporations for above market, and they only want to sell to American working families.
lee smith
Well, we used to make movies about this, right?
This is the kind of thing that used to be the heart of American popular culture, right?
You made movies about what it's like to have a community, what it's like to have a family.
This is essentially what It's a Wonderful Life is about, right?
Why is it a great town?
Because George Bailey stuck around and he allowed them all to, he allowed the working classes to build a home.
When it became Pottersville, it was this Horrible, vulgar town, prostitution and gambling and stuff like that.
It's an important thing.
And what's weird is how many, how many people, I'm not going to say on the right, but how many Americans generally, how many American thought leaders, intellectuals have missed what's been going on over the last four years, how some of these arguments have shifted, right?
Do we want Do we want a market?
Do we want a country?
What does it take to have a country?
What does it take to build communities?
And if you're just going to talk about markets, then you're not going to have communities and you're not going to have a country.
ian crossland
It's a good point, man.
I don't like using the heavy hand of the law unless, you know, after great debate, maybe we do.
But maybe it should be illegal for these firms and investment firms to buy property if there's another human trying to bid, like an American citizen trying to make a bid or a foreign national buying it out.
tim pool
Here's the inverse.
We saw in 2008, the government was saying you had to give out loans to these families.
Families who often couldn't afford to pay back these loans.
And then when the loans went bad, they tried stuffing them into mortgage-backed securities, trying to find some way to make duds into something valuable, and the whole system just broke apart.
A lot of the criticism was, well, when the government forces people to lend to people who clearly can't afford houses, the housing market explodes.
Well, BlackRock can certainly afford to pay for these houses.
Maybe these people should be renters, I suppose, right?
I certainly don't think so.
I think people should have access to homeownership.
The difference here is it's the other extreme.
Coming in and telling a middle-class person who can't afford the house, we're gonna spend an extra 50% on top so you can't buy it, is not the same as mandating someone be given special access to loans they can't afford.
ian crossland
I agree.
I would like to clarify this whole 2008 crisis a little bit.
So they loaned out to citizens, just regular people.
They made loans to them.
Then the people, when they had trouble paying it back because of what?
Inflation?
tim pool
It was people with, in many instances, bad credit.
had no business owning a home, but they were given these like no money down loans with high interest rates.
ian crossland
And then when people couldn't pay them back, they started to default on the loan.
And so they packaged the debt into other things and then sold those to like investment firms.
tim pool
Yep.
lee smith
There was something sinister going on about the process because a lot of people were kind of...
a lot of people knew it was sort of a racket and a lot of people were making money and doing a lot of bad things that
hurt not just the economy, but the country and the world.
ian crossland
So now it sounds like they're using that as an excuse to not loan people money, instead going the safe route by just loaning it to big corporations.
tim pool
Well, I suppose authoritarianism is always the safe route, I guess.
lee smith
Right.
tim pool
When you have despotic control of a nation and you can oppress and strip away the rights and, you know, resources from the working class, so long as you have a good psychological manipulation apparatus, which I guess we do, sort of, then you got nothing to worry about.
lee smith
Definitely.
I mean, that's what the press is.
I mean, this is what the press has been doing for, you know, at least five years now.
tim pool
Yeah, it's amazing where it's like, you know, journalism today is like, make the biggest lie.
I feel like we're about to transition our government into like a more democratically decentralized system, like a legit system.
ian crossland
I've been studying the Greek, the development of the Greek democracy, 500, 600 BC, and basically the farmers, the Greek farmers, were paying a sixth of their food to their local landlords, and they couldn't afford the debt, so they were putting their own freedom up as collateral.
It used to be legal, you could say, you can take my family as a slave, or me as a slave, if I can't pay back the debt.
They couldn't pay back their debts, or they couldn't pay their taxes, basically, so they were conscripted into slavery.
And what was happening was, Athens realized, if they needed to call up a military, they couldn't, because these people were all unburdened by debt.
So, they were going to get taken over from the outside because their people were just wrecked.
So they had to dispel all the debt.
All that 1-6, they freed all the slaves.
I mean, they made drastic changes to their system.
Out of necessity, because they were going to get taken over by a foreign power if they didn't.
We need to be able to rely on our citizens to have strength, willpower, and the ability to mobilize.
tim pool
I think.
And Lee, correct me if I'm wrong, that Chinese interests may be subverting this country to, you know, global dominance of some sort.
lee smith
I think it's the interest of our elite that's subverting this country.
I mean, their ties.
I mean, I've talked about this.
I've written about it a bit.
And the big problem, I think, is China a strategic threat to the United States?
Yes, definitely.
But the bigger strategic threat to the United States is our elites who have been selling this country off piece by piece, betraying this country to the Chinese Communist Party for decades now.
Believe me, I'm not making excuses for what the Chinese Communist Party is doing, how they're trying to hurt America.
But the biggest problem, again, is I think that Donald Trump had it right when Donald Trump said, I can't really pick on Xi or their leaders.
They're just doing what they think is right for their country.
How many of our leaders, national, state, municipal, How many of our leaders have our interest at stake?
If you look at places like, we come back to New York again, is that really the way that Andrew Cuomo is governing the state of New York, the way that Bill de Blasio is running New York City?
Is that in the interest of New Yorkers?
Very hard to believe.
No.
tim pool
No, it's not.
When they put all those homeless people, and many of them are like convicted criminals, next to the wealthy apartments, and then people are getting attacked.
lee smith
They emptied out the Upper West Side, right?
I mean, the amount of people who were moving out of there.
And these people, in lots of ways, they were the vitality, the wit, and the imagination of New York.
People living on the Upper West Side.
They cleared them out, right?
They cleared them out by sticking homeless people and putting halfway houses up there on the Upper West Side.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure one of the individuals was like a child offender near a school.
And so naturally the wealthy people who were there were the first to be like, I can leave and I will leave.
And it was almost, it almost seems like it was intentional.
Yeah, it's very interesting.
lee smith
So that's what I mean.
I think it's our leadership.
It's our leadership who's not looking out for us.
If you look at what the Biden administration is doing, you truly have to wonder.
I mean, I'll mention again, First day, you put that much energy, the XL, you know, closing down the pipeline.
Why?
Why is that so?
Why was that so vital?
The number of jobs, the number of jobs that that costs and will cost, and you just look at a number of different policies, both foreign and domestic, was it really that important?
Do we need to be underwriting Hamas's war in the Middle East by sending $5.5 million for reconstruction in Gaza?
I'm not sure.
Did anyone vote for that?
Who voted for these things?
tim pool
The people voted for Biden.
lee smith
Yeah.
tim pool
We are not a democracy.
We're a representative constitutional republic.
And so in this regard, there is a challenge in that the politicians lie.
I mean, in this regard, it's also, this is what you get when you elect someone not because of their policies, but because you don't like the other guy.
And it's the best example of it.
So, you know, very often we've had the two-party system where it's like, oh man, McCain's so bad, I gotta vote for Obama.
Oh, Obama's so bad, I gotta vote for McCain.
Yeah, but this one was like the epitome of like people coming out screaming Trump was bad.
And man, you know, I couldn't imagine this.
The people who really believe the mainstream press about Trump really do live in this psychotic, paranoid, delusional state.
This permanent, perpetual, paranoid delusion where Donald Trump is literally Hitler and all this crazy stuff's happening.
It's just not true.
lee smith
The worst thing about it is if you see the coverage coming out of the New York Times Or the different reporters who are based in New York.
I mean, Donald Trump has been a New York figure for five decades, right?
All these people have heard of Donald Trump.
They all know who Donald Trump is now.
There's lots of things that you can say about Donald Trump.
You don't like his attitude.
You don't like his policies.
You don't like the way he looks.
You don't like how he appears so much in the press.
But all the different things they were saying about him, you're right.
Fascist, Nazi, stuff like that.
All of these people saw Donald Trump on TV.
They saw Donald Trump at Trump Tower.
They saw Donald Trump in New York restaurants for decades.
And they turn around and start saying this stuff?
Absolute nonsense.
They know better.
That's the issue.
They all know better.
Well, they're lying on purpose.
Exactly.
And they sold this to the American public and helped drive the American public crazy.
Or at least half of it.
tim pool
For a combination of money and virtue signaling?
lee smith
Kicks?
ian crossland
Oligarchical power.
They're consolidating their power base.
tim pool
I mean, kind of, but, you know, Brian Stelter is gonna be living in a shoebox if this country falls apart.
He's of no societal value.
I mean, the dude probably can't even lift a heavy bag to help someone load their luggage into a car.
I'm not trying to be, like, overtly disrespectful.
I mean, quite literally.
What would a man like Brian Seltzer do were it not him running a propaganda state TV for the White House?
lee smith
This is fascinating because that's the way that I see the press.
The press is the courtier class, right?
This is what they are.
If we're looking at the oligarchs, these are the retainers.
These are the people who work and don't you like what monsieur has said don't you like with the the new pro the
new?
Application that monsieur has designed aren't you interested in the new show that monsieur has produced. That's
what they are the retainers These are people who are
Their jobs are about messaging on behalf of the oligarch It reminds me of that episode of Simpsons where mr. Burns
tim pool
is fleeing to his escape pod I forgot why.
And then, you know, Smithers tries to go with him.
He's like, oh, sorry, there's no room for you.
And then it, like, launches him in the air.
They're the weak little betas.
Who will say anything and everything for the corrupt elites who are extracting the resources from this country, but when all is said and done and the country falls apart, like, they're the first in line for whatever bad is going to be coming.
They provide little, if anything, in terms of value to society.
I mean, these are people who live in New York City.
Who live in giant concrete cubicles, who espouse propaganda for the state.
When the state has lost confidence in the people because the elites have extracted too much, and now the system topples, where do they go?
They have... What reasonable skills do they have?
Hey, Dylan Radigan went and started doing hydroponics.
That guy was smart.
Ten years ago, he was like, I'm out.
I'm not gonna be playing that game.
ian crossland
That guy's awesome.
Yeah.
lee smith
I mean, if you look, if you look at the history of these different, if we think that this country is heading toward a very dangerous, very dark place, it may be, it may not be.
But regardless, if you look at the history of things that go bad, if you look at the history of authoritarian states, how these things begin, the bad things that happen, Right.
It's a mistake for the ideological class, for the ideologues.
They're always caught in the middle of it.
It's a very bad idea.
tim pool
Well, I just think that the nature of America, as you mentioned, stubbornness, a lot of defiance.
It's not going to go the same as, say, Russia would, or many of these European nations would.
It'll be different.
Call it a civil war, call it whatever you want.
You know, we mentioned this quite a bit in the context of it, but There's a dividing line forming between these states, which you mentioned with the vaccine segregation and the passports, which lends itself to the idea that if Joe Biden and the Democrats keep extracting and destroying this country, at what point will the Republicans cut things off and how will they do it?
Maybe Texas announces a Texas coin, a cryptocurrency for the people of Texas, a local currency to protect the value.
You know, look, Florida would probably do it first, to be honest, because you've got DeSantis.
He'd probably launch, and they just had the Bitcoin conference in Miami.
Think about this, Florida could launch, as a governmental entity, a DeFi coin, Florida coin, that is legal tender in the state of Florida.
What are the Feds gonna do?
I mean, I'm sure they would freak out.
ian crossland
They'd probably buy a bunch of it.
tim pool
Maybe.
The issue is, so long as the Fed can print money and Biden can hand it for free to Cuomo, to Newsom, to Whitmer, they, when they spend money and destroy things, they are extracting the wealth from the people of Texas and Florida.
And the other states.
Utah, Idaho, etc.
lee smith
Productive states.
tim pool
That's right.
ian crossland
I'm thinking about I'm still thinking about the Greco the Greek democracy.
This is so it's so parallel.
They say history rhymes not necessarily interrupted.
So what happened was they defaulted on their tax debt was the first thing they did to get out of this problem.
The second thing was.
Uh, that they free their slaves.
Okay, so we're not in a state of slavery right now, although you could argue that we're in fiscal slavery.
tim pool
Student loan debt.
ian crossland
Student loan debt.
Abolishing.
Uh, and so, but what happened was, then the poor people came up and they want, they started to demand the rich people's property.
And the guy that had been put in charge, this guy named Solon, was this brilliant, you know, merchant, uh, guy.
He wasn't a landowner, but he was just this really, really smart guy.
Said, no, we're not going to strip the wealth from the rich.
So it's going to happen again, probably.
It's likely that people are going to start demanding that we strip the wealth.
What we see now it's different is the mass printing of money.
They didn't have that in ancient Greece.
They didn't have this money printer, this Federal Reserve system, this fiat.
So I don't know how other than establishing a new currency and issuing a debt recall and voiding like the value of the dollar over like the two year period.
tim pool
This is why Bitcoin is key.
Why I'm so bullish on Bitcoin.
I'm not telling anybody else what to do, but we talk about how... I mean, you've really got to understand this.
That the blue states were in serious trouble before the pandemic.
Their debts were piling up.
We had in New York City, they want to do the Amazon headquarters.
AOC comes in, starts spitting and yelling, and then Amazon pulls out, costing them $30 billion or more over a 10-year period.
They need that money to fix the MTA.
So they're in serious trouble.
Well, don't worry!
Don't worry.
You see, Donald Trump said he wasn't going to give him a bailout.
Fortunately for them, Joe Biden wins.
Joe Biden gives them all the cash they need.
Now they got some cash reserves.
But that is causing hyperinflation.
Or I should say hyperinflation.
It's causing inflation.
It's really high, depending on who you ask.
That means for someone in Texas who wants to buy a computer, your ability to buy these goods has been taken from you by the corruption of Andrew Cuomo.
How long will they stand for this?
I don't know.
They might just be like, okay, whatever.
Fine, whatever.
And then the federal government gives grants and loans to many of these states.
Anyway, many red states are getting money from the government.
So they'll probably just say, sure, fine, whatever.
But it is the savings of the people in these places that are being devalued and the governments that are benefiting from it.
lee smith
Right.
It's terrible.
I guess one question is, one question is how long?
What's going to make people change?
What's going to break them?
Take their food.
What will it be?
tim pool
So long as they have food, people will probably do nothing.
So this is my advice to the despots.
You just gotta go slow.
You can't throw boiling water on a frog.
You gotta put the frog in a pot and then boil the water.
That's how it's done.
Otherwise they freak out, right?
Make sure their food costs don't go too high.
You got to keep it below around 40% of their income per week.
Otherwise, they snap.
ian crossland
You're right.
I was watching this video last night about the hunter-gatherers.
I think it's the... it starts with an H. The Hanso?
Hanso?
It's the last hunter-gatherer tribe in the world, in, like, Eastern Africa.
And this guy goes there and hunts with them.
And they asked one of the hunters, what's the most important thing on Earth?
Like, what is it?
What's the greatest thing?
And he, without even thinking, he said meat.
And he's a hunter, so he thinks meat, but it's food.
It's food.
We think about all these lofty ideals and ways and love.
It's food.
tim pool
You need food to live, bro.
ian crossland
Dude, it's all about the food.
tim pool
Water.
ian crossland
Water and food.
Because if you don't have water, the food will kill you.
tim pool
If these shortages get worse, I mean, you need only look at these photos of shopping markets during hurricanes.
All the meat is gone.
The vegan section is fine, though.
People don't want to eat bugs.
And they'll try.
Eat the bugs.
Come on, you eat it.
Because we're gonna have steak.
We're gonna have fancy steaks.
You guys eat the bugs, though.
Take their food away, and people will go nuts.
But there is a way out.
There is.
And it's... I don't know the regulations or the laws on this, but it would be really amazing if Texas just said, hey, we're making Texas coin.
ian crossland
That'd be awesome.
Every state should have their own.
tim pool
I mean, it used to be that way.
The states used to have their own currency.
You can go online.
It's amazing.
I went to one website where they sell Rhode Island dollars.
Like, legal tender in the state of Rhode Island early on.
Nowhere else.
ian crossland
Is it just a one-for-one to the dollar?
lee smith
I mean, I guess another thing that would be interesting is if you look at, you know, people... I don't know if it's still there after COVID, but people have spoken about California has the world's third largest economy.
So what about Texas?
What about Florida?
It seems that Florida is particularly...
California's economy is enormous because of its trade with Asia, especially with China, right?
But if you look at the other, if you look at Texas and Florida, these states are also well disposed to trade as well.
So what are the different ways for, what are the different ways for red states to build their To build their economic strength.
tim pool
Again, I'm willing to bet the feds would storm in in two seconds with guns if any state tried to do this, but imagine if Texas said, okay, here's what we're doing.
As the government, we're going to be issuing a cryptocurrency called TexasCoin, where we'll print 21 million over the span of 100 years, and it's mined or whatever.
However, if you are a resident of the state of Texas, Or a registered business, and you're a representative of that business, you can exchange your Texas coin for U.S.
dollar.
Which means, in the Texas economy, they back their currency... No, that wouldn't work.
That wouldn't work, because inflation would still hit them.
But imagine they said... Or no, no, no, they could.
It would just be an exchange rate between the dollar and the Texas coin.
Then the Texas coin is deflationary.
So if you live in Texas, and you choose to accept Texas' currency, It's value goes up while the dollar goes down.
People in Texas are going to be like, I don't want to use dollar anymore.
And if you ever need to, you can just go to the government and as a resident, do an exchange.
lee smith
Do you think this is, I mean, are people talking about this?
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
unidentified
I'm not.
tim pool
I just, it just came to my thought of it.
I'm sure some people are.
lee smith
It's really interesting.
tim pool
I mean, Florida, look, I don't even think the government needs to do it.
If the government backed it or if anyone created a reserve and said, you know, it's, it's, imagine this, right?
There's a lot of cryptocurrencies.
Each and every one can be exchanged for some monetary value.
For the most part, some don't.
Some are private utility tokens.
But let's say, like, you know, Dogecoin right now is at, like, 35 cents or something.
What if the only way to actually do an exchange, it was only available to the people of the state of Florida?
Now, if you live in Texas, you can have some.
And you can trade it with people in Florida, but you can't get dollars out of it.
Unless you're a resident.
Then the residents would be like, oh, we want to accept this because we can use it amongst ourselves, retains its value, becomes more valuable.
So if someone pays me one Florida coin and I put in the bank in a month, it's basically basically worth two Florida coin.
I'm not taking those dollars.
I'm taking the Florida backed crypto.
And then.
The value, it costs, when it starts, it's one to one.
$1 is one Florida coin.
A month later, $2 is one Florida coin because of, it wouldn't be that dramatic, but inflation 5%.
You could always just exchange it back for US dollars.
It would be like literally any other cryptocurrency.
The difference is the state government of Florida or Texas or whatever state, or maybe New York would do it, are putting regulation on it statewide, which provides incentive for people in that state to use it and doesn't allow exchange for dollars outside of the state.
Now, however, people could still trade off-market, right?
Someone would be like, hey, I'll give you Texas coin for dollars or whatever.
And you could do that anywhere.
ian crossland
You could have it do discounts, too, locally.
Like, if you spend New York coin in New York, you get a 1% discount on anything you buy.
tim pool
It would be easy to tax.
The government could have fees on every transaction instantly taxed.
lee smith
Do we have a sense of like how different the difference between the Trump administration and the Biden administration on cryptocurrency?
Is there a big difference?
tim pool
Trump hates it.
lee smith
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, I don't know of what Biden's position has been.
I mean, they're trying to regulate it.
Trump called it a scam.
He's wrong.
But it seems like the federal government really does not like it.
ian crossland
State Street's going in hard on crypto right now.
They're the second, I think it's the second or third largest investment firm in the world alongside BlackRock and Vanguard.
But State Street, if you look up State Street News yesterday, they're launching a cryptocurrency division.
tim pool
To me, Bitcoin is a savings account.
If you put your money in a bank, it's losing value every day.
You put in Bitcoin, it's gaining value every day.
I don't care what they say.
And again, I'm not telling anybody to buy anything.
No financial advice from me.
What I'm saying is Bitcoin, based on the function of it, the capitalization, the liquidity, everything, it's going up in value.
Now, in the short term, you can see volatility, but you ignore that stuff.
I don't care.
If Bitcoin dropped to $10 right now, I'd panic buy as much as possible.
Like, wow.
I'd go nuts.
I'd just buy as much as I could.
But I don't think people... Where is it now?
I think it's at $36, maybe $35.
It was a 37 earlier.
It was a 32 the other day.
Like, if you're day trading, you're probably making a killing.
lee smith
Do you check it out all the time?
ian crossland
I mean, are you- Sometimes I forget.
Sort of three days.
tim pool
Sort of.
I've always just been someone who's bought and then ignored it.
Because it's a savings account.
ian crossland
I was day trading for a while.
You can make a lot.
A lot of money if you're day trading.
I mean, you can make like 2-7% daily.
It's crazy how much money you can make per day.
tim pool
Because of the volatility.
ian crossland
And if you're moving $10,000,000 a day, you know, that's $70,000,000 in just like two hours.
tim pool
Look, it hit $65k, and then it dropped to $30k or whatever, and it was mostly poor people who panicked and sold off, and all the rich people were laughing the whole time.
Because the rich people aren't worried about short-term losses like this.
It's like, dude, if I buy one Bitcoin, one Bitcoin equals one Bitcoin.
But if you're poor and you put in your only $200 hoping to turn it into $400 and then the market tanks, you panic and pull it out.
You've lost your money.
You buy when you can.
You know, for me, I'll buy when I can and I forget about it.
ian crossland
Some Ron Paul was talking about a lot was getting rid of this law that says that the US government or Congress has the monopoly on on a currency control of currency creation, basically, which they've already offloaded to the Federal Reserve anyway.
So they're basically they've they've given up their their responsibility to some private quasi private public company.
I don't know what the exact law is.
Dave Smith was talking about it when he was on the show.
But Ron Paul has been... We need to repeal or remove that restriction so that we can all legally create our own and create a market of currency market.
Because the U.S.
dollar can't carry the load.
We're watching it happen.
tim pool
I would rather own rocks.
Like, I'd rather buy a bag of gravel than have a U.S.
dollar right now.
ian crossland
I wonder what the value of that's increased by in the last three months.
Gravel's gonna go up!
tim pool
It's gonna become more and more expensive.
unidentified
Sand.
lee smith
Yeah, you're right.
Timber.
Right.
tim pool
Absolutely.
So we got these parks built here, and these days, we couldn't get it done.
It's too expensive.
But the best thing is, they had leftover, oddly-shaped lumber here and there, and boards, because they cut things, and they say, here's the waste.
And the guy, I remember when they were building, they were like, so we'll have this all hauled away.
And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
At the time, I was like, just throw it in the shed, because we like building stuff.
I'm sure we'll build something.
We built some, like, PVC rails, like, for, you know, skating and stuff.
And now we have this shed full of wood, and I'm like, wow.
lee smith
Thousands and thousands of dollars.
tim pool
No joke.
At the time, it was probably a total of, like, a thousand dollars worth of materials a year ago, and it's probably worth, like, seven or eight thousand now.
Some ridiculous amount of money for all these materials.
Plus, there's just like steel bars and pipes and stuff that you use for skating on.
So, wow.
I'm like, we could probably do a sale on this and make a ton of money right now.
No, but I want it.
Because we want to build stuff.
I would rather have a bag of rocks.
No joke, because sourcing the rocks is hard.
Sourcing the dollar is nothing.
Joe Biden's just making it rain on everybody.
And I'm like, there's no scarcity to the dollar.
Someone's got to go and get those rocks.
That's got value.
lee smith
That's interesting.
That's a great sales pitch.
That's fantastic.
I'm holding a bag of gravel.
I'm holding a bag of rocks.
I'm holding a bag of rocks.
tim pool
But I'm not even... I'm not... I'm being serious.
lee smith
No, I know.
I know.
It sounds great.
tim pool
If somebody came with, like, a Home Depot, like, you know, gray gravel for the driveway, I'd be like, how much?
I'd love ten bucks.
I'd be like, done.
lee smith
I'd love to see an Alec Baldwin version of this, like, Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross.
You walk into the room, you're holding a bag of rocks, just like that.
tim pool
I'm gonna buy some rocks.
ian crossland
Always be selling.
lee smith
No kidding.
ian crossland
Always be selling.
Always be closing.
ABC, always be closing.
lee smith
And you're holding the bag of rocks.
ian crossland
The problem is, where would you store the rocks?
Hence, we created currency to, you know, stand in for the... Yeah, but the currency inflates.
tim pool
The rocks don't.
The rocks deflate.
Well, I guess the rocks inflate in value.
But the dollars become worthless.
So buy the rocks now for $10, and then in a month it'll be worth $12.
ian crossland
That's no joke, dude.
It takes a lot of effort to grind up that gravel and move it around.
tim pool
It's like the most worthless thing you can imagine.
unidentified
I mean, look.
tim pool
Things you normally would think are worthless that people wouldn't want to have.
Wood, glass.
You know, back at the other house where we had the studio, we had a bunch of wood.
A bunch of wood that we just bought because it was cheap and we were using it to build stuff.
We just left it.
We didn't even care.
That's probably a couple hundred bucks right now that we just left behind.
That was only like 20 bucks when we bought it.
lee smith
I mean, I'm getting bookcases made.
I know what it looks like.
I know how much more it is now than it was a year ago.
tim pool
Well, let's talk about some of this environmental disaster stuff we got going on.
So, you know, obviously we've been talking about what you can invest in, the cost of lumber, the cost of food, the inflation.
Right now in California, they're dealing with a mega drought.
The Verge reports the Hoover Dam reservoir is at an all-time low, and apparently they're putting, in California, they're under some kind of rationing for water.
Yeah, the water, man.
lee smith
How's it work?
I'm going to be careful with how I put this so I don't present myself as a water expert.
But my reporting on Congressman Devin Nunes, he's in Central California and, you know, he represents a big ag district, 22nd District in uh... in california and he was originally elected to fight the water wars and so i know a little bit about the central uh... the central valley water issues and one of the cases these guys make and it's pretty convincing to me is there's an awful lot of water coming off the sierra nevada uh... and this is what makes the central valley so fertile so rich with what they call the uh... brad basket of the solar system
Some of this, the water wars, what the water wars are about, it's about environmentalists or people who describe themselves as environmentalists in the Bay Area, to a lesser extent Los Angeles.
And a lot of this, in effect, what they're doing, again, I'm not, I don't know what's happening at the Hoover Dam.
I just want to give a little background on what I know about the water wars out in California.
They say there's an awful lot of water in California.
What they're trying to do is they're trying to break... They're trying to break their political opponents.
The game is, with the left, what they're trying to do is they're trying to hurt their economic base, strip them of their economic base in the Central Valley, the agricultural base, and also push them into the cities where they can control them.
So, again... By what?
tim pool
By blocking water?
lee smith
Or what?
Yeah, they run a lot of the water off into the bay and it's an argument about the smelts and what people say about the smelts is like this, you know, nothing against the smelts.
unidentified
The Delta smelts?
lee smith
Yeah, the Delta smelts.
Yes, my favorite fish.
You know about this, right.
So the Delta smelts are also a bait fish for, I believe it's a trout.
That's an imported fish, right?
The trout, they brought the trout out there.
It's an imported fish.
And the smelts, the smelts are eaten by the trout.
So what their point is, is that the environmentalist argument isn't very, uh, it's doesn't have a lot of integrity.
So they're entirely honest.
tim pool
This is a... In my research, when I covered the last drought in the past six or so years, I would say that you're about half... What you're saying is about half of... What's the right way to put this?
In my research, it half agrees with what you're saying.
In places like Tulare County, they're barred from using surface water for growing crops because it's diverted to the cities.
And it's a really simple thing.
It's one of the biggest arguments I have for the Electoral College.
You have this one state with no electoral system, no proportional representation.
What happens is the farmers in these counties make up about 300,000 people, but a large portion of the economy.
Over in San Diego and LA, they have tens of millions of people.
So then they all say, hey, we're going to vote on who gets the water from the poor people.
And so when you get 300,000 farmers and poor people, and then you get tens of millions of city people, and they say, now everybody vote.
Well, that's what Ben Franklin said.
A democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what's for lunch.
A republic is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
So what we end up seeing is the farmers had to drill thousands upon thousands of feet into the earth for groundwater.
But the poor people who lived in East Porterville, I think it was called, their wells only went 30 feet, so they went dry.
They had no water left in their homes.
Taken by the farmers, because the farmers were in a drought, and there were canals with surface water.
And I said, there's so much water there, can't you take it?
And they were like, we're not legally allowed to.
It's diverted to cities.
So the water runoff from the mountains at a time of a drought goes to the cities who say they need it more.
But I will mention one thing as for the Delta.
So I went to the Bay Area.
And we talked to many people about the smelts and what the farmers wanted to do was they said, we got a lot of this water up north that goes into the bay and does nothing.
It reaches the San Francisco, around that area, where it hits the ocean and it basically makes all that fresh water useless.
We should divert that fresh water, have it go around the bay and go to the farms.
Now, the political argument was the smelt.
Oh, but you're going to kill all these fish if you do that.
I think the more sound argument was, I actually went to a bunch of cities in the Bay Area, smaller cities, not San Francisco, not Oakland, and I went to a bunch of farms.
One of the farms I went to was, I believe it was an apple farm, I could be wrong, it did some kind of fruit.
And they said, the water that we get for this farm is, it's bay area water.
So we're, we got all these, you know, tributaries, streams, and whatever.
It's all the delta water.
If you divert that water, it will reduce pressure, causing ocean water to come in, killing all of the fresh water in the bay, and wiping out all the small towns that rely on that water.
So it may be that you could, you know, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
But they were like, what about our family farm that's been here for generations, for hundreds of years, that would be destroyed by salt water coming in and wiping out our farms?
It's tough.
One of the solutions for the water problem was desalination.
But what that does is it creates brine runoff that goes down to the bottom of the ocean bed, killing off the lowest level of life, causing a dead zone from the ground up when you wipe out the food chain.
ian crossland
Yeah, you need to find a way to reuse that salt if you're going to you're gonna do that for sure.
tim pool
Yeah, but they just dump it back into the ocean.
And it's brine, it sinks, and then kills all the flora and fauna on the ocean floor,
and then everything above it dies.
ian crossland
This is a bit goes back to this guy named William Mulholland.
You guys ever hear of this guy?
They named the street after him, Mulholland Drive in Los Angeles.
He was, it's 1913, the year, obviously the same year they made the Federal Reserve.
lee smith
The basis of Chinatown.
ian crossland
Oh, William Mulholland?
So what he did was he went up to this place, Owens River, the river valley, and diverted all this.
This is before L.A.
existed.
It was a desert.
And he diverted all this farmland water down south to create the city.
And that's why they named a street after him in L.A.
They're built on a desert.
It's not supposed to be there.
They're importing the water and stripping it from the rest of the state.
So when droughts hit, they hit hard.
tim pool
If Colorado right now was like, hey, California, No.
California's gone.
SoCal's gone.
Their water's gone.
It's Colorado River water.
lydia smith
Yes, it is.
tim pool
Yeah, Colorado's got like a treaty or something.
But they could just be like, nah.
Imagine if a drought hit Colorado, though.
If Colorado for some reason was facing, you know... Did it happen?
lydia smith
Yeah, it happens all the time.
tim pool
It happens really quite regularly.
And then Colorado's like, sorry, Colorado first.
No water for you, California.
ian crossland
China's doing that.
They're like blocking river water to other countries, because a lot of rivers run off Chinese mountains, I think.
tim pool
They did it to themselves during the Olympics, you know, several years ago.
All the poor farmers were restricted.
lee smith
What's gonna happen in California then?
What's gonna happen in, uh... Yeah, what's gonna happen in Southern California?
tim pool
Well, I mean, California as it stands seems to be post-apocalyptic.
You know what's funny?
I hear from these people, they're like, California is so nice.
I'm sick and tired of people having zero perspective.
It's like, bro, if you are a frog in a pot, I don't wanna hear your opinion.
I'm kidding.
We'll have an argument about it, but you need to look at the pots that are boiling, because you're in California, and people are like, it's not so bad here.
And I'm like, how many times have you seen a homeless person take a dump in the street?
12 in the past month.
But what's the big deal?
And I'm like, it should be zero!
When I lived there, it was like once or twice a month.
San Francisco's got a poop patrol now.
The last time I went to LA, Parked my car and I was going to a mall and some woman, some old fat woman walked in the middle of the street and just squatted and went at it.
And I'm like, what the is happening to this place?
ian crossland
That's burned in my mind.
tim pool
I lived there.
I lived there a couple of years and it was kind of bad.
Now it's really, really bad.
lee smith
Wait, you lived in San Francisco or you live in L.A.?
tim pool
No, no, no, I live in L.A., in L.A.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've been to San Francisco several times.
lee smith
It's a shame.
It's a shame.
It's a great city.
unidentified
Beautiful.
lee smith
These were all great American cities until someone decided they needed to be burned down.
Or a whole bunch of people decided they needed to be destroyed.
tim pool
I think it's really simple.
It's a very simple mathematic equation.
If Republican says, be responsible, and Democrat says, I'll give you free stuff, it's a slope.
It is an uphill and a downhill.
And like Homer Simpson, Springfield has a westward slope, so they knew which direction he was going to walk.
ian crossland
It's so sad.
It's a it's a great they're great cities in a great state in a great country that is drastically behind schedule on developing desalination tactics.
We have so much freshwater.
We have so much saltwater access to so much saltwater being on basically an island, you know, North America, United States.
tim pool
It's not a long term solution.
ian crossland
Desalination?
tim pool
Oh, that makes sense.
It subsides, yeah.
That's gotta be the word.
Subsidization, I think the word is, I could be wrong.
Could you look that up?
When you pull the groundwater out, that water actually provides some kind of
structural support pressure at a lower level.
lydia smith
It subsides.
Yeah, right.
It's got to be the word.
ian crossland
Subsidization.
Oh, no, that's not it.
unidentified
That's it.
tim pool
No, that's subsidies.
Subsidization.
I could be wrong.
But what happens is when you pull the water out, the ground starts sinking.
And that is really bad.
lee smith
So I think that's the future for California.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
I think I think California is going to get really bad.
Maybe what they're trying to do with this great reset stuff with like New York is get rid of as many people as possible so the cities can survive.
lee smith
I hear people also saying that they want to build these again, speculation from interested friends.
They say, yeah, they want to build these kind of fancy, big Asian style cities, these kind of showcase cities where you don't really have many people living in them.
ian crossland
Yeah, I couldn't find subsidence, but maybe it's called subsidence.
lydia smith
Yeah, cool.
unidentified
There you go.
tim pool
So what the groundwater is like, is a buffer for other to keep other things from well, when you will land up and keep up saltwater out when they pull the water out of the ground doesn't matter where you are, like the ground like the ground goes down.
ian crossland
You know, with fracking, a lot of the fracking stuff is causing earthquakes across the country.
And I think it's because they're removing liquid from, similar to this maybe, and it's causing the ground to like fall and shake.
So I was thinking we could pump water back into the earth to like make up for the oil that we take out and to re-subsidize or whatever you would call.
Subsidize.
tim pool
People need to drink water, man.
ian crossland
Resign.
tim pool
Look, this is all the great Reset people.
They're like, we're drinking too much water.
We're pulling too much groundwater.
lee smith
They're saying that too?
Are you kidding me?
They're saying we're drinking too much water?
tim pool
Oh yeah!
The reason they want to ban beef is because of how much water we have to use for the cows to drink.
lee smith
That's insane.
I thought it was just their whole thing about bovine flatulence.
I didn't know it had anything to do with water as well.
tim pool
It's like thousands of gallons, they say, of water per cow for like a meat product.
And it's wasteful.
Almonds.
Almonds take a lot of water to produce.
So it's very, it's like, we're gonna see almond prices start skyrocketing because of the drought in California.
It's gonna be bad.
Avocados as well.
California produces what, like a, how much of the food of the world?
Like a massive portion?
lydia smith
I wanna say like one fish?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Yeah, something like that.
Yeah, and California is being propped up by farmers who are producing for their GDP, and if they leave, then the state is... they're in trouble.
lee smith
Right.
If they turn it into wind farms, then I guess we will be eating bugs pretty soon.
tim pool
That's why I, as well as many other people, like Jack Posobiec, have been saying, get out of cities.
You don't want to be in a city.
I mean, it's almost like they fired a shot across the bow last year with the lockdowns and the riots.
Get out of the cities.
They were basically forcing you to do it.
lee smith
Oh, absolutely.
Right.
I mean, if you have the ability to not leave these places that are increasingly dangerous and increasingly spiritually bleak, yeah, you have to go.
There's no choice.
tim pool
We were in the Philadelphia suburbs and we decided to leave almost immediately when the pandemic happened.
So we actually had a conversation about there was there was talks about quarantining states.
No joke.
They were like shutting down bridges right away, too.
unidentified
Yeah.
lee smith
So we were like, why almost immediately?
What did you guys see right away that made you?
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
I mean, no, no, no, it was the state came out and said we will lock down the bridges and quarantine the state
ian crossland
Okay, it coincided with expanding the business too. So I've been thinking about just getting a larger
we were gonna buy Tim was gonna buy like a big office in Jersey, but
Obviously kovat struck and that was kind of off the table It was already, you were fighting challenges with that.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Everything, everything shut down.
It just made it possible to do anything.
And so we ended up just sitting inside and doing this show and one iteration of it for months because you couldn't do anything.
And so I was just like, one of the, one of the problems we had was you go to, you go to Walmart, nothing there.
It was like, we go to the store and there's like a, there's like a photo on my Instagram of my friend Adam.
And it's just like, there's no toilet paper anywhere.
Just all gone.
lee smith
I'm not.
I mean, weirdly, I'm not.
It's an old it's an old thing in American history, right?
I mean, kind of our resources are our myths about Cincinnati's the citizen farmer who comes and fights.
tim pool
Yeah, he was great, wasn't he?
lee smith
Yeah, I mean, but it is also it is also about that's our origins.
These are the stories that we tell about America.
You know what?
the city from the Bible on from the Bible of the Bible to the present it's
always been a place of crime and corruption and pestilence and that's
what it is again I think that Americans need to reconnect to our roots and to
reconnect to things that aren't about politics whether it's family and
tim pool
community you know what that sounds like an argument for the great reset but I
lee smith
but I would reset it entirely differently.
Do you know what I'm saying?
I'm not talking about resetting, I'm talking about Americans having individual choice and making a decision.
tim pool
I think people need to get out of cities.
They should roll up their sleeves, learn how to chop some wood, learn how to grow their own food, take care of some chickens, get some fresh eggs.
Nothing beats.
You walk out in the yard in the morning, you eat a couple fresh eggs, you make them, you're right there on the spot, and it's like, thank you chickens, it's delicious.
Not these garbage store-bought trash.
But people are so reliant.
I mean, the people in the cities, I think, are the biggest problem.
The rural conservatives aren't the ones destroying the planet.
It's these urban liberals are the ones who complain about everything they vote for.
They vote for these governors.
They vote for these mayors who create the police brutality.
They vote for these conditions.
They live in these hyper-concentrated, break Particle dust in the air with gas and all the exhaust.
They're breathing in trash They're living in cities that smell like sour milks sour milk and cubicles crown on top of each other They're the ones consuming the most energy for this this gluttonous lifestyle on average and then the people in the countryside who are voting Republican live, you know Sparsely populated areas where they're on like natural, you know, like they have their own oil tank to manage their own heat They have you know satellite internet Much more lower cost.
They're doing solar panels.
Much more self-reliant.
lee smith
I always imagine that they knew this, though, that it's not... A lot of the times we think about it in terms of hypocrisy.
I think that actually that's part of how they're establishing their elite status, right?
When we saw Gavin Newsom walking around all the time without his mask, Pelosi.
And there were a whole bunch of them, right?
Whitmer as well.
tim pool
Pelosi.
lee smith
Pelosi, who was the mayor of Philadelphia, right?
He was also caught, I think, in New Jersey or somewhere without his mask.
tim pool
Fauci was caught with his mask down.
lee smith
Exactly.
Fauci.
So at a certain point, it's like they're not all making a blunder.
They know they're political figures.
They're being looked at.
It was part of to establish that they are part of a higher class, right?
It's a hierarchy.
They're at the top.
You are on the bottom.
So when you talk about the difference between the people who are the elites who are in cities and the people who are on farms, that's the point to say we're better than you.
We can we can spend this.
tim pool
It's like the celebrities who fly on private jets to go pick up their awards for environmentalism.
They want you to suffer so they can keep living in luxury.
lee smith
They mean to show you they want to rub it in your face It's not like what hypocrites Leonardo DiCaprio.
It's like I know what I'm doing.
tim pool
So what you're saying is eat the rich?
unidentified
Yeah No, no, Solon would tell us otherwise.
tim pool
That's called the Kathy Newman username, right?
ian crossland
Yeah.
Apparently it's good.
We're going to come to a head where people are going to want, you look at the French revolution, people are going to want to hurt other people because of greed or because of jealousy, but we don't, you know, we stay peaceful.
We work together as a team.
We all want to come out of this better and benefit together.
We can.
tim pool
I got, I got my issues with Elon Musk.
You know, the Bitcoin, Dogecoin, the pumping and dumping, all that silly, silly nonsense.
I can respect him for SpaceX and Starlink.
We're, like, trying to get Starlink.
We actually got someone brought out a Starlink for us, but their cell locked, so it didn't work.
We need an actual regional unit, so we weren't able to do it, but it would be really awesome to have.
I guess we'll just have to wait until we get it.
Uh, so, so, that's cool, like, work on cool stuff.
I'll tell you who, you know, when I think about the phrase, eat the rich, I don't really know what they mean by that, like, consume the resources from them.
You want to throw in Hollywood?
I'll tell you this, leftists, hear me out.
Let's start by eating the rich in Hollywood.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
And we all agree.
And we will start there.
We'll start there.
We'll probably have to compromise after that.
unidentified
But I think it's a good place to go because, you know, you know, like the rich chocolate cake.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm saying like if if if if, you know, I look at Wall Street and I look at Hollywood and those are two things where I'm like, for the most part, I'm on it.
You can go.
The hedge funds that are shorting companies into oblivion?
These apes in the meme stocks?
It's a revolution.
It's fantastic.
They found the weakness, these shorts, and they found a way to stick it to the hedge funds.
Hopefully it works out.
We'll see what's happening.
A lot of people have been covering this, and I'm excited to see it work out.
Hollywood?
These are the hypocrites who say, we're going to save the planet!
Stop flying in planes!
Oh, my private jet's here, I gotta go, and they go live in their 50-bedroom mansion.
Those are two sectors of the economy I got no problem with regulating out of existence, or just, you know, figuratively eating the rich.
lee smith
I find it heartbreaking, I mean- Wait, the tech sector too, sorry.
tim pool
Mark Zuckerberg, bye!
lee smith
I find the Hollywood stuff heartbreaking, though.
I mean, because right before COVID-19, we used to go to movie theaters.
Remember that?
tim pool
Yeah, I know.
That's why I like AMC stock.
lee smith
Yeah, okay.
That's great.
I can't wait.
We used to go to movie theaters, go to dinner beforehand, get a drink after, sit with your beloved, go with a group of friends, children's birthday party, and now it's heartbreaking.
Now when they turn the lights back on in Hollywood, you've got one of these, you've got some lunatic screaming at you for being, uh, for being... White.
Right, exactly.
tim pool
White male.
lee smith
It's ridiculous.
And look, there's still a lot of terrific stuff they're doing, but there's a lot of garbage they're doing as well.
But do you notice the people that don't say anything?
The people who are never out front on the political stuff?
How they come across, no one ever knows, no one knows what Al Pacino thinks about politics.
tim pool
Right.
Right?
You know, now that I think about it, I'm like, is there a certain sector of ultra-wealthy individuals that we're actually eager to defend anyway?
Like, I can defend Elon on some things.
lee smith
Is there a sector?
tim pool
I got no respect for Bezos.
That dude is nuking everything.
He's burning it to the ground.
He's a lunatic.
And I'm talking about Amazon's book burning.
I'm like, these people got too much power.
Zuckerberg's awful.
Jack Dorsey's awful.
They're all just so awful.
You know what?
I'm over it.
Let's set a threshold and get rid of, you know, we'll eat the rich.
I'm there.
Leftist, you got me.
I'm tired of these people.
They're just awful.
They're destroying everything.
lee smith
It would be nice to be able to find one sector.
I mean, entertainment?
I got nothing?
unidentified
Where?
tim pool
But look, look, at like a lower level, you've got media where they're not the multi-billion dollar media.
You've got like, you've got wealthy conservatives who do media and it's alright.
You've got wealthy liberals who do media and it's alright.
But then you look at the big corporate machines.
lydia smith
Baker, you bet.
tim pool
Awful.
Get out of here.
All of you are gone.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You look at technology.
We got Minds.com.
Hey, bill out me.
He's alright.
He's a cool dude.
You got BitChute.
You got Gab.
I'm okay with those things.
And you got Facebook.
Nah, get Facebook out of there.
lydia smith
Too big.
tim pool
Too big.
Too bad.
It should be a bad awful.
ian crossland
I think the tech should speak for itself.
Mines is cool because it's open source, free software.
So like, we spent all this time building it and now you can have it for free and use it.
Now you can have your own copy of it and spin up your own social network for free.
It's all available.
That kind of thing, yeah.
If the CEO turns out to be a multi-trillionaire, whatever.
The technology's amazing.
tim pool
So here's the other problem.
All right, if we agree that there are a lot of really awful, really wealthy people that are screwing everything up, Zuckerberg dumping money in these elections, Bezos, you know, he's doing the same thing with Amazon, wokeness, you know, pushing these ideologies, then you've got, you know, big tech.
The problem is what?
You give their money to the government, now the government's the same thing.
So do we eat the government?
Figuratively?
What does that mean?
Maybe, maybe, hold on.
Maybe there's like a little portion on the left when they say eat the rich, and then the right when they say small government, and that's what you gotta combine.
I don't know how you do that though.
unidentified
How?
ian crossland
Decentralize.
tim pool
I don't know if you can.
lee smith
What does that look like?
tim pool
Bitcoin maybe, decentralization.
ian crossland
Decentralizing, yeah.
The tech sector's decentralizing, like I was working with the Fediverse team, we're building out the Fediverse, which is this like federated system of free software technology where like all these different websites can intercommunicate and It's a it's a big deal.
I go more into it in a little while.
We're decentralizing the entertainment industry.
Hollywood is gone.
The giant.
Now you can.
We're doing this from here in the middle of, you know, the mountains of West Virginia.
lee smith
So that's exciting.
ian crossland
Yeah.
The tech sector.
Now with Bitcoin, the tech sector is decentralizing with cryptocurrency finance.
Politics is next.
I'm a big into like apps that where we can vote locally with app technology and kind of control our own destiny from local.
tim pool
Service guarantees citizenship.
lydia smith
Yes.
ian crossland
I don't know what service means, but I'm into it.
tim pool
Any kind of service for the community.
Let's develop that.
lee smith
Anything.
I'm committed to the idea that we move Not move away from politics, but that we expand.
And I'm including, I'm not just saying people on the right, I'm just saying as Americans, we expand past politics.
There's no redemption in politics.
tim pool
I guess, you know, one of the big problems, there's just these stubborn people that stand in the way of solving these problems.
Maybe what we need is for like an entity of the people to rise up and seize power, maybe with weapons, and then instill their political ideology by force.
lydia smith
Go on.
tim pool
I'm kidding.
Yeah, yeah.
ian crossland
I see you've studied history.
unidentified
Yeah, right, right.
tim pool
That always works out!
All right.
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I've been working over the past probably seven or eight months to probably longer than this, but with a heavier focus in the past, you know, year.
To focus away from YouTube as the sole place for a business because you don't want to put all your eggs in one basket.
And so that means we've been pushing the website.
We're going to be doing amazing things with it and we're going to have a bunch of different verticals.
We're going to have field reporters.
I'm so excited because it also means that I get to...
It'll probably mean, eventually, less content from me in terms of my other two channels as I start focusing on the administrative of the core business, hiring more people to do the work that I do, but probably this show will always remain Tim Guest IRL.
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I can't wait till we have, you know, ten reporters, you know, ten different video producers, we're doing skits, we're doing comedy, we got sitcoms, we got movies, and we're heading in that direction, and it's thanks to you guys who are becoming members at TimGuest.com.
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I think in the next week or so is our timeline for the newsrooms.
It's coming very soon.
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All right, let's see.
Brian Davis says, first Super Chat ever.
Been listening to you for about three years now and I can't say I regret it.
Ian and Lydia, keep him in line.
Okay, there you go.
All right, Angela Lucarelli says, 55 years old, bought more than one of the BioTrust's products.
They are great, love them.
I love them.
They really are good.
Yeah.
I'm fairly picky on a lot of the sponsors.
We do, so like, I'm actually one of the worst people to work with because, I kid you not, I get a bunch, I don't want to, I'm not going to name any companies because I don't want to disrespect them, but I get like, you know, three or four emails and they're like, how about this?
And I'm like, I have a bunch of restrictions on what I'm willing to say.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
It has to be like totally honest and legit.
I won't endorse anything I've never used.
And I got asked to do a sponsor, I was like, nah, I'm not doing it.
Never gonna happen.
But I legit, like the Biotrust stuff, I wanna give a shout out to Biotrust.
ian crossland
That product's really good.
I love that they have no color in their stuff.
It's like smooth and silky like sand.
It's even finer than sand, you know, it's just like pure collagen crystals.
tim pool
It's like powdered sugar almost.
lee smith
If my wife is watching, she's gonna make sure that I get some.
She's always trying to say like, you need this, you're aching here, you're aching there, you need this, it'll be better for you.
tim pool
My left side.
lee smith
I'll check it out.
tim pool
I ate it.
We have a phrase, but I can't say it.
I ate ish.
Skating the other day.
unidentified
Oh.
ian crossland
Skating?
tim pool
Brutal.
It wasn't even, it was like, I twisted.
And so now I've got some muscle strains.
unidentified
Oh no.
tim pool
And it's brutal.
ian crossland
We gotta get that inversion table.
tim pool
Yes.
ian crossland
Hanging upside down, brah.
tim pool
Gonna be good.
But yeah, man.
So, inadvertent shout out.
Thanks for the super chat, Angela.
Alfie says, if you're talking about inflation, please bring on Peter Schiff.
Here's what I would love to do.
Max Keiser and Peter Schiff.
Can we make that happen?
ian crossland
Yeah!
That'd be the debate or the conversation of the decade.
tim pool
How do we make that happen?
Can we do that?
lydia smith
So, what I found with Peter Schiff is that he's incredibly hard to get a hold of.
Trust me, I've tried.
But if you can find a way to make it happen, I'd love to do that.
tim pool
It would be so amazing to have him and Max Keiser.
Because Max is such a character.
He'd be like, Peter, shut up!
No, you're wrong!
And then he fires the money gun at him.
lydia smith
Oh gosh.
tim pool
When Max came on, he had the money guns and he was spraying money.
He was like, it's fiat, it's worthless!
Max was hilarious.
lydia smith
Interesting person.
tim pool
I'll fight you naked says a letter to a woke heart on medium by Alexander.
I'll just keep paying until someone reads it.
lydia smith
I did read it.
I read it.
I read part of it yesterday.
What is it?
It's just a note and it's trying to figure out what's going on, why people are woke.
I haven't gotten through the whole thing, but I will, I promise.
tim pool
Payne Martinson says, Tim must love El Salvador right now.
Oh, you know it.
Luke posted he's going to El Salvador.
He's like, who's coming with me?
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, El Salvador just made Bitcoin legal tender.
unidentified
Yeah.
Wow.
tim pool
So now people are saying Tesla's forced to accept it in El Salvador if they want to sell Teslas.
lydia smith
That's funny.
tim pool
Yeah, that's crazy.
That's what I'm talking about.
You know, it's funny when people say, oh, Bitcoin, I don't understand it.
It makes no sense.
And I'm just like, here's the only thing you need to understand.
Goldman Sachs said it was a new asset class.
JPMorgan, Wells Fargo, whatever, a bunch of these firms, I think those are the correct ones, I could be wrong, have been now advising their clients to purchase this for investment.
I'm pretty sure the ultra-wealthy elites aren't planning on losing money on this one.
And China put a bunch of money in it too.
And they keep manipulating the market, probably to buy more.
Dan N says, gold and silver is the only way to get through this simple as that.
Now, that's mostly true.
It's not the only way, okay, so it's not true, but it is.
Gold and silver are excellent.
They absolutely are excellent, and I won't advise anybody on what to do, but I personally won't just buy crypto.
I've got silver and gold as well, and copper.
ian crossland
I think platinum and palladium are also fascinatingly awesome.
tim pool
Things you can do stuff with.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Alright, let's see what we got here.
Tom Wark says, Your POTUS came to Great Britain, tried to bully our GOV about the Northern Irish Protocol.
Our elected Democratic MPs went bananas.
The US staff had to walk it back very quickly.
Your thoughts?
Mine?
God help us.
When he does Putin.
Oh, Biden's a mess!
You know, at a certain point, have you guys ever seen Galaxy Quest?
lydia smith
Yes.
ian crossland
Part of it.
tim pool
So, you know Tony Shalhoub's character?
For those that aren't familiar, they go on this actual... They're basically a parody of Star Trek, and they're actors, has-beens, and then real aliens come, and they get to go on the actual spaceship, and everyone's kind of like freaked out and stressed.
ian crossland
Sigourney Weaver.
tim pool
Yeah, Tim Allen.
But Tony Shalhoub is just like, uh...
I guess they're saying we're going to blow up, but we don't get it.
unidentified
Whatever.
tim pool
And he's just like laughing and like, this is ridiculous.
That's how I feel.
It's like we're, it's like, it's, it's just like watching, you know, ships are exploding in the sky.
Buildings are falling over and I'm just laughing like, what am I going to do?
lee smith
There's a disembodied feel to it.
It's like, he's going to, what?
He's going to talk to Putin.
All right.
tim pool
I'm just laughing.
lee smith
We'll see what happens.
tim pool
It's going to be hilarious.
And then it's like I imagine the way I imagine it's like the first time you watch Biden go on an international trip
It's just like you're sitting there and your pajamas you're watching TV and you're just like, oh geez Biden
What are you doing?
The second time he does it you're sitting there and you're wearing like, you know
You got your armor about you got your armor on your level three or whatever and you're like, it's getting crazy out
there Then you hear it you hear a noise and you like, you know
chamber around you like what was that?
And then he goes and meets Putin and it's like your house is half destroyed your TV's there and it's flickering with
the image of Biden And you're standing there with pan under your eyes and your
AR and you're like those were the days This is all you know, it's just it's just a downward spiral
of Biden saying stupid things at least Trump scared people You know, they were scared when Trump came in.
ian crossland
And the situation was different when Trump came in.
We weren't in a hyper or heading towards hyperinflation.
There was no pandemic.
So Biden's got all that kind of clouding is.
lee smith
The other thing is Biden's going in now and Putin and every other world leader.
Allies and adversaries know the role that Joe Biden played in this Russiagate nonsense, trying to frame Donald Trump as a Russian spy.
I find it nuts and very dangerous.
The idea that these guys were behind it and now they're going to go and they're going to challenge and threaten Putin after what these guys did.
This is bad.
tim pool
Yep, yep.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Hostile Bogey Inbound says, I put all my money in Moonshine.
So many practical uses.
When it hits the fan, I'm ready.
Yeah, actually, we talked about this.
Let me ask you, what do you think is the most commonly used household item that is also the hardest to produce?
lee smith
I mean, moonshine?
I'm gonna say bourbon.
I don't know.
ian crossland
What?
tim pool
I mean, alcohol.
lee smith
What do you got?
tim pool
I don't know.
I don't know.
I think actually alcohol might not be that difficult to produce.
So, maybe like antiseptics.
Bleach.
I think, you know, Ian mentioned bleach the other day.
ian crossland
Bleach was running out.
There was like a bleach shortage.
tim pool
There's a chlorine shortage right now.
So I think, I don't have a ton of uses for bleach, personally.
I'm not gonna put bleach in my wounds.
ian crossland
It's an amazing cleaning substance.
tim pool
But mouthwash.
You can clean a wound with it.
You can salt with it.
ian crossland
Salt's another good one.
tim pool
Yeah, it's it's antiseptic.
Isopropyl alcohol is limited.
ian crossland
Honey.
lee smith
The honey that we use most.
That's most difficult to produce.
tim pool
Yeah, I think it might be antiseptic.
How would you even make, you know, ethyl alcohol and.
I don't know.
I suppose it's not that difficult to make.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
But it's not easy, but it's very common.
lee smith
That's a very good question.
tim pool
I think about this.
If, you know, one of the biggest problems with infections before we had antiseptics was, like, you'd lose an arm, you'd die, you'd get sepsis.
Now you get a cut, you walk through the woods, you splash some, you know, rinse it off, you put some antiseptic on it, and then you're good.
So it's a really important thing to have.
ian crossland
I bought a bunch of Manuka honey, which is apparently the most medicinal honey on the planet.
It's a specific type of honey.
It has this stuff, MGO, I don't know what it stands for off the top of my head, but I got like the highest rated, most medicinal Manuka in the world you can order.
And it was like hundreds of dollars to buy.
lee smith
Wait, can you eat this?
ian crossland
You can eat it and it's delicious!
tim pool
Delicious!
ian crossland
It is so sweet and pure.
lee smith
So it's medicinal.
Do you put it on?
ian crossland
You put it in a wound.
If someone gets a horrible, you know, if someone gets a wound, you can pack it in and it'll act as a disinfectant.
lee smith
Fascinating.
lydia smith
I used to work with a wound nurse and we would pack people's wounds.
We would use silver and we used honey and we used these really thin strips of like this silvery fabric.
It was super interesting.
I love that job.
tim pool
Patrick Giles says, Tim, can you get Brett Weinstein on a talk about Ivermectin and the crime of the century?
I would love to.
Definitely, we've invited them before, but you know, when people are running their own shows, it's really hard.
But absolutely, I'd love to reach out to Brett and Heather and have them come out when they're available.
So we'll look into that.
lydia smith
We are going to talk about Ivermectin soon.
tim pool
Well, if we can, YouTube bans people when they do.
No joke.
lydia smith
We'll see.
ian crossland
Yep.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
ZeroRedFox says, Brett Weinstein just posted a discussion with a top virologist and engineer called How to Save the World in Three Easy Steps.
I love that guy.
It's mind-blowing what the data reveals, and I urge everyone to watch it.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Definitely.
ian crossland
Dude, Brett is a power.
tim pool
He's a cool dude.
Yeah, big fan.
Rampton6600 says, Tim, the Karen thing is super racist.
What if we were talking about the Pablos and the Laquishas?
Or how about those Chans, Mohammeds, and Sanjayas?
lydia smith
That's a good point.
tim pool
All right, fair enough.
ian crossland
Wait, but what do those names mean?
All white people?
unidentified
It's just different ethnic names.
lee smith
I got a kick out of that comment.
tim pool
Jason Moon says, don't forget, most truck drivers are conservative and probably won't be let into New York.
I'm okay with that.
If you want to stay in New York, there you go.
B. Anderson says, possible drought solution.
It's going to be a big project, but if we can dig a huge canal through the desert areas of southwest United States, natural salt filtration, saltwater brackish fresh.
I mean, yeah.
lee smith
Why don't we? You know what? I just want, I think I'm interpreting that thing about the truck drivers
driving into New York a little differently. What if the person is saying, and maybe this is what
they're saying, that when we're talking about how New York can hurt Texas or Texas business,
maybe the point is like, well, which I've heard other people speak about it different times, like
why don't conservatives just say we're going to put an embargo on New York?
You want shipments?
You're not getting shipments.
You need this kind of work.
You need that kind of work.
Because remember, New York is not... New York, it's partly a blue city.
There are other parts that are not, right?
Staten Island, a lot of Queens still, parts of Brooklyn still.
tim pool
That's exactly what I'm talking about.
That leads to the physical separation and divide, which ultimately leads to war.
lee smith
I'd rather have compacts, as you were speaking about before, business compacts.
tim pool
I think that the hyperpolarization, the fact that it's the matrix.
The leftists, the Democrats, they live in a paranoid, psychotic, delusional reality.
They think that the conservatives, they think shows like this are all QAnon.
Because they live in a paranoid, delusional state.
Now, a lot of the Q people believe absolutely insane things for insane reasons, but most non-woke, anti-woke, anti-establishment, disaffected liberals, moderates, intellectual dark web, conservative, etc.
Regular people with difference of opinions that are paying attention to the news and actually watch the videos.
But you have this very dominant establishment faction that literally believes Trump's a Russian spy.
My favorite was when Chris Hayes had that guy on who said that Trump may have been a Soviet spy since the 80s.
Like, the Soviet Union's gone, dude!
lee smith
There were a number of them who said that, yeah.
Serious psychopaths.
tim pool
And that is the establishment.
That is the mainstream line.
You go to a regular Democrat and they'll say, I don't know.
I think it's true.
lee smith
Right.
No, I know.
That's what's scary.
You look at what they've been covering for at least the last five years, and now we're all going to have to go back and go back before it.
What else have we totally been misled about?
ian crossland
Oh, I would love to go into that.
We can do that later tonight.
lee smith
Yeah, so much.
ian crossland
On the after show or something.
tim pool
The comedian says, words offer the means to meaning, and for those of us who will listen, the enunciation of truth.
And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there?
Alan Moore, Beaver Vendetta, an excellent line.
Great movie, by the way, I like this.
ian crossland
Oh, he wrote Watchmen, right?
Alan Moore?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
I didn't know that was the same guy.
Yeah, dude, I've seen a lot of Watchmen lately.
unidentified
He's legit.
tim pool
Yeah, he was making a point.
It was really funny about people who are identifying with Rorschach from Watchmen.
He was like, he's an awful, like, moral absolutist who doesn't bathe.
Like, you're not supposed to like the guy.
But people did.
I'm like, yeah, you're not supposed to.
All right.
Fisk the Loanbacks says, Buying real estate allows rich people and businesses, domestic and foreign, to dump their U.S.
dollars before the value of the dollar tanks from inflation.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
That's a good point.
And they can buy it marked up and just put their money somewhere.
It also, uh, I think I could be wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure if you aren't an American citizen, you can still start an American corporation.
So long as you have the money, and then you can use that corporation to sponsor yourself, and hire yourself, and so it's like a way people come in.
lee smith
This real estate story that you're talking about, and I'm not just talking about the thread, I'm talking about generally, this is really important, and really big for a number of different reasons.
I think this is something that people will be, I know you guys will be, but something that people are going to be talking about a lot because it's a big deal.
tim pool
The real estate thing?
lee smith
Yeah, I mean generally, the number of people who are buying real estate, what it looks like, if there are foreign interests involved.
There are.
tim pool
China's been buying up vast swaths of western land and farmland.
lee smith
Right.
tim pool
They're doing it all over the world.
lee smith
And different residential homes all over.
tim pool
The best thing is it's that basically the federal government wants China to have U.S.
dollars to maintain the petrodollar.
Then China then uses those dollars to strip away our assets and resources so that we eventually collapse.
Victims of our own broken system.
lee smith
And greed.
tim pool
Yep.
I believe that, for the most part, the establishment Democrats and Republicans are like, well, this party's over.
Before we get kicked out of the House, I'm gonna go steal the fine china and silverware.
lee smith
Oh no, I think that's true.
I think a lot of them have totally given up.
I think that they've just said, forget it.
I'm like, look, everyone else is doing it.
Why don't I get cut into- Look.
tim pool
I know how they feel.
Get invited to a nice Upper West Side party in Manhattan, this really nice luxury penthouse.
The cops show up and arrest the guy who lives there because he's got drugs.
And then everyone's shrugging, and some guy just starts grabbing the silverware.
It's like fine silver, and putting it in their pocket, and you're like, eh, screw it.
You pull a painting off the wall and you walk out.
You know, hey, party's over, might as well take some stuff with us.
lee smith
It sounds like a scene from a dark mirror version of Trading Places, when Eddie Murphy is living in the... Maybe if I do run for office, it'll be under that completely honest stance.
tim pool
It's like, I have no policy positions, but if you vote for me, I can assure you, I will do everything in my power to extract as much value from the working class for myself, and then just sit back and watch the rest of it burn to the ground.
ian crossland
I will not let the food go bad.
I'll make sure it gets eaten.
tim pool
How will you deal with the rampant homelessness in Los Angeles?
I won't, but I will claim to and hold vast fundraisers to raise tons of money for my own personal endeavors.
Next question.
Yes, I'm worried about the working class wages.
I don't care.
You're on your own, but I will pretend to care to hold fundraisers and then, you know, go buy an infinity pool or something.
Before it all falls apart.
FunGuy says the value of a house is what someone is willing to pay for it, whether that is a private citizen or a private business.
All that is happening is people don't want to pay what the market is demanding.
Well, I suppose the issue is when all of the homes are owned by one big firm, it'll be like Ukraine.
Have you ever been to Ukraine?
lee smith
I have not.
tim pool
So I was looking at housing prices.
I was like, I wonder how much it costs to live in Kiev.
It's like comparable to American prices.
lee smith
Really?
tim pool
I'm like, how is somebody who makes 400 bucks a month, like the average wage for a lot of Ukrainians.
lee smith
In Ukraine, right.
tim pool
Well, it's oligarchs around the country.
lee smith
Right.
tim pool
It is a small handful of ultra wealthy.
lee smith
And that's who lives in Kiev, right?
The oligarchs.
tim pool
Well, no, you rent from them.
So rent is really cheap, but property is extremely expensive.
ian crossland
Ooh, maybe that's what we're gonna see.
Maybe that's the idea.
tim pool
Yeah.
It seems like a bad investment for an American to buy property in Kiev because the amount of rent you'd get from it is not gonna be that much.
But for the oligarchs, they own it all.
You have no choice.
You are serfs.
Alright, TooGoodGaming says, Hey Tim, been following since 2018 and I listen every day.
Thanks for the work you do, bro.
And everyone, make sure to check out the Fresh and Fit podcast.
Absolutely.
You know what I was thinking of doing?
I want to hire somebody who is just like a gym rat, who likes eating healthy, and then have them just be in the house.
And I was like, we should get a board.
With like all of the people who work here.
And you have to do a certain amount of exercise.
And if you do the right amount of exercise, like 30 minutes a day of simple stuff, plus you eat the meal that the health fitness guru says you should eat, you get a golden star.
But if you get five golden stars in a week, you get a bonus.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
Wouldn't that be great?
ian crossland
Is the golden star made of copper?
tim pool
No, he's a little, you know, those little stickers.
ian crossland
That would be cool.
That would be cool.
Incentive-based.
I like that.
tim pool
Yeah.
So, like, one day he'll be like, Ian, bro, like, I need 15 sit-ups from you, bro.
ian crossland
I don't need the star!
tim pool
Then yank it.
You're not gonna get a bonus, bro.
I'm telling you, bro.
lee smith
What's the bonus?
unidentified
I like it.
tim pool
I don't know.
From week to week, it changes.
Yeah, no, no, no.
It'd just be like a cash bonus.
lee smith
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
unidentified
That sounds great.
tim pool
Because I'm pretty sure health insurance companies lower your rates if you do something like that.
They do, yes.
So you can pass the savings.
unidentified
Oh!
lydia smith
If you don't smoke or whatever.
lee smith
I like that.
Pass the savings on to you.
tim pool
Yep.
And I think the idea of having a company of people who are healthy, fit, sharper, stronger, faster, you know.
lydia smith
I love it.
ian crossland
Oh, there goes the distance.
unidentified
Yeah.
I like it.
tim pool
It's like 15 minutes of aerobic, 15 minutes of anaerobic, and you've got to eat a lean meat with some vegetables.
lee smith
A lot of kale.
A lot of kale.
tim pool
Yeah, we're growing kale.
unidentified
Oh yeah, kale's great to grow.
ian crossland
I ate a lot of pizza the last couple days.
tim pool
No gold star!
ian crossland
No gold star for me, but what I noticed is it's different than just not eating vegetables.
If you just don't eat vegetables, that's one thing, but if you eat other crappy, like bread instead, it's way harder to get back.
I was feeling hungry because I didn't have nutrients, but I was full.
lydia smith
So it's not that you don't have nutrients, it's that you're taking in a bunch of carbs, they fill up your belly, but they hit your bloodstream really fast, the sugar goes really fast, and suddenly you're hungry again.
So you end up consuming more calories than you would otherwise.
tim pool
This is great, can I just, I gotta read this.
Slensder says, Blackrock isn't just accessing printer-go-burr money.
The loans they take out are guaranteed by the Fed, so if the house values fall, taxpayers pick up the bill directly.
And if they rise, taxpayers pay with inflation.
So you will not own the house, but you'll pay for it anyway.
Is it a U.S.
corporation?
says Tim Biden appointed multiple former BlackRock executives to his cabinet.
One to the Treasury.
BlackRock is manipulating markets and profiting.
Yeah.
That's where it is, man.
ian crossland
Is it a is it a US corporation?
I don't look it up.
I'm looking it up right now.
tim pool
CL says BlackRock has been creating rental backed securities, which is the same thing
as a mortgage backed.
BR sells a bundle of the homes as a security.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Rental-backed securities.
ian crossland
What is it?
tim pool
A rental-backed security.
lee smith
How does that work?
tim pool
The value of the security is based on the properties in which tenants are paying rent.
unidentified
Huh.
tim pool
It's like the same thing as a mortgage-backed security, bro.
lee smith
Interesting.
You've got a really interesting audience, too.
They're really with it.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
They're very... The smartest.
unidentified
Yeah, right.
ian crossland
No BS, man.
I find myself being goofy on this show and kind of like, it doesn't fly.
These people are too smart.
Thank you, guys.
tim pool
That's why people are always yelling at Ian.
ian crossland
They're like, Ian... BlackRock is American.
Multinational Investment Management Corporation, whatever that means.
So maybe they're located in Panama.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Yeah, if I could read every single super chit.
We used to early on, and then the show got bigger, and then it was like, there's just way too many.
And I'd read them really fast, and then I realized we're not really getting the super chits if we just speed read them.
So we gotta like, you know, try and talk about them.
Caliburt Neutral says, please do an imitation of Brian Stelter having an argument with his wife over if he should report lies, like the neutered monk on Game of Thrones.
I don't think I can do an impersonation of Brian Stelter because I don't watch him.
You know, so it's like, I can watch someone talk and then kind of imitate what they do and then try from there to create the character, but... I have to watch, I would have to watch some of his, uh, some of his stuff, and I don't... I mean, I've watched some of it, but not enough.
Rat number two says, Dad, this money isn't real.
It was printed by the Montana militia.
It'll be real soon enough, was a joke.
Now it's becoming reality with crypto and state currency.
Yeah, I mean, why don't we have state currencies?
You ever hear of the Ithaca Hour?
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
Negative.
tim pool
Yeah, Ithaca, New York, for a while had their own... I know Ithaca, New York.
lee smith
I lived there for a while.
tim pool
They had their own currency.
It was called the Hour.
Interesting.
lee smith
When was that?
How long ago did they have that?
tim pool
I think it was like 10 years ago, and it started to fall out of use.
So I went there a few years ago, and they said they have them, but no one really cares anymore.
The thing about a local currency is that it can't leave your jurisdiction, so... What we saw with, like, Detroit, you had these auto manufacturers.
People worked for them.
When they left, people didn't have money anymore, so the local economy had nothing to spend.
But people were still producing things there.
There are still farms.
There's still food.
They just couldn't trade because they didn't have any money.
Money went somewhere else.
If you had a local currency, you could keep trading.
So I watched this documentary about it and they said once the Ithaca Hour came into existence, all of a sudden everyone's homes became amazing.
Because local labor, the currency was always there for the things people could do locally.
Can you grow food or buy computers?
No.
But, someone can fix up your bathroom.
And they would pay in the hour, and then the hour would circulate amongst them all like crazy.
So, it worked.
ian crossland
Would it get federal taxes taken out of it?
tim pool
I don't know, probably.
ian crossland
Interesting.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yeah, you gotta pay taxes on all of it.
Isidore Calderon says, I mean, it sells itself!
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Come on, Abbott, get on this!
ian crossland
I like it.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Let's see, uh, Wizdo, or Wizd of Zaz.
tim pool
Never heard of that.
backs Tim. Several states accept them as legal tender.
There is an amount of physical gold commensurate with denomination of respective notes." Never
heard of that. Interesting.
Michael Wilson says, I got accepted to MSU for film studies today.
I'd love to take an internship writing short narratives or cast Castle.
Um, sure, but I'd be willing to bet film studies becomes gender studies very quickly and they're going to be like, the first lesson is the wokeness of how film was made or like the whiteness or whatever.
But feel free to send a message to jobs at TimCast.com where we go through and we're looking at people.
We're hiring a bunch of people.
We're mostly trying to fill the newsroom right now.
It's a slow process because I'm doing a lot of Q&A.
It's far from perfect.
Slow process.
I'd love to do what Vice does, or any of those big New York companies.
You hire one person, then say hire five people, and you walk away.
ian crossland
Yeah, but you see how that turns out.
tim pool
I know!
You get a bunch of really dumb, woke people being like, Donald Trump is a fascist, part 42!
Oh gosh.
Yeah, we read that article before.
Move on.
All right.
Shaboingus says, Hey, just curious why you don't stream on Rumble.
I'm a member at your site, but wouldn't it be good to promote free, non-YouTube platforms while you still can?
Uh, we have to do a ton.
I wish we could just... Let me put it this way.
We are not just, like, a camera in front of a computer.
Like, a lot of YouTubers will have a webcam and turn it on and just talk.
We have a big computer with... I would say we're pro-sumer level.
We're not consumer, but we're not pro.
We don't use TriCaster.
We're using just regular, you know, amateur streaming gear.
But we're upgrading.
And that makes it really difficult to just switch up the whole system.
So we actually have to get new tables built for camera positioning.
We have to get special lights.
We're moving the studio into a different room, which is bigger and better.
And we're getting a new computer sent here hopefully soon.
It's been two months.
Maybe it'll work.
I don't know, there's a chip shortage and the apocalypse and all that, so... Yeah, I wish it were so easy, but we are planning this.
We started uploading to Rumble, and we are planning on doing multi-platform streams and all that stuff, but ultimately we'll see how it plays out.
Alright.
BigMacAttack says, only problem about cryptocurrency is that it requires tech.
In a war, a high altitude nuke could EMP the whole country.
Boom all electronics fried, including cold storage, unless you have it shielded.
Physically backed currency a la gold, standard safer.
Here's the problem with gold.
Gold and silver.
Why are they valuable?
ian crossland
Uh, silver has medicinal properties.
Gold also, you could argue, has medicinal properties.
Other than that, you can make superconductors out of it.
Yeah, they're hard to find.
tim pool
Initially, gold was easy to stamp because it's soft and it was rare.
So it was easy to take this metal and hard for them to counterfeit, hard for them to produce.
And so it became valuable.
If you found gold, you could be like, Ooh, I can give this to them.
They can stamp it.
We have legal currency.
So gold is scarce.
It becomes valuable.
People have confidence in it.
Cryptocurrency is valuable for basically the same thing.
Bitcoin's basically the same thing.
Other cryptos are more like stocks or securities.
Now what happens if the total economy of the planet collapses?
ian crossland
None of its worth anything all that if everything remained in place, but the economy would just everything was at zero
tim pool
all the sudden No, I mean like the apocalypse happens like all the
electricity gets knocked out. Yeah Gold is not gonna be worth anything. Oh food is where it's
at water food and water. Yeah. Yeah, that's the point I make you know Alex Jones would be like buy your gold
people and I'm like I'll tell you this if If I walked up and I saw you know you Lee on my left and
Ian and I said I got this you know roast beef with Swiss and
and oh, and Dijon mustard, and a bottle of water.
Or, I'm sorry, not the bottle of water, just a Dijon sandwich.
Who wants it, and what can you trade?
And Ian, if you offered me gold, I'd be like, uh-huh, what do you have?
And if you mentioned you had a bottle of water, I'd be like, deal.
I don't need gold.
What am I going to do with it?
Put it in my pocket?
It's heavy.
It's hard to transport.
ian crossland
Yeah, you could argue that the currency only ever got created after society had been established.
Because we had access to food and water.
Like the farming communities of the Mediterranean.
tim pool
Water is heavy and hard to carry, but you need water.
You need to drink it.
So I'm like, meh.
Gold is good.
It is.
But any kind of confidence-based value system is predicated upon a functioning economy of some sort.
Even if it's a rudimentary economy.
So I think about... That's what I mentioned.
Mouthwash.
Someone's gonna be like, what do you have to trade?
And you're gonna be like, I have a gold coin.
What am I supposed to do with that?
Carry extra weight for no reason?
I got a bottle of mouthwash.
I need to clean a wound.
ian crossland
I have silver mouthwash.
You guys ever use that stuff?
tim pool
Oh yeah?
ian crossland
The best of both worlds.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Perfect.
ian crossland
Tastes great.
tim pool
Alright, we'll do a couple more here.
A couple more stupid chits.
Yvonne Lee says, Tim, please shout out to Noodle Blossoms.
They keep spamming the chat saying how much they love your show, saying it's the best, and want your autograph.
Hey, thank you very much.
OG Boxer says, as a libertarian, I can't believe I'm saying this, we need to re-establish Glass-Steagall.
unidentified
Ha!
tim pool
What is that?
I'm going to butcher it if I try to explain it, but I think it separated standard bank accounts from being used as investments.
Is that right?
Am I wrong about that?
unidentified
It's been a while since I've gone over the Glass-Steagall stuff.
tim pool
But basically my understanding was, individuals who put their money in the banks, the banks couldn't use that for giving out loans.
ian crossland
It's it's crazy how as a libertarian, I because I think myself pretty, pretty aligned with libertarian, but when I find myself being like, we need to make this illegal, we need to use the government to do like, there's just no ideal.
tim pool
Oh, okay, here we go.
Rick Ortiz says, did you see Jeffrey Lubing was rehired by CNN?
If you're a leftist, apparently you can mostly peacefully get rid of the elderly and stroke it into a Zoom video chat.
Was he rehired?
I saw he was on TV.
lee smith
I thought I saw something that CNN had forgiven, but I may be mistaken.
unidentified
I don't.
lee smith
That would be strange, but not the strangest thing that's happened in the press over the last few years.
ian crossland
What was that guy's story?
lydia smith
Not family friendly.
ian crossland
Defer to offline conversation.
lee smith
Yes.
lydia smith
He did unwise things.
lee smith
Yes, in a meeting.
Oh, I heard about that.
ian crossland
That's awesome.
tim pool
In a Zoom meeting.
Is it though?
Ski Man from Toronto says, Hey Tim and crew, love the show.
You've been one of the few accurately portraying IRL news.
Ontario, Canada finally opening out of lockdown tomorrow with barely any freedom.
It's brutal.
Trudeau and PCR love.
Tsk tsk.
Yeah, man, I've been hearing how awful it is.
Really bad.
ian crossland
And you know that guy's not locked down, Trudeau.
He's probably running around free.
tim pool
Of course!
Rules for thee, but not for me, baby.
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Do you want to shout out your book maybe, or anything else?
lee smith
I want to thank you guys.
Thank you for inviting me on.
It's been a huge, huge pleasure.
A lot of fun.
And yeah, your audience just getting a sense of it right there is really interesting, really devoted, really smart.
So thank you all for including.
Thanks to your audience for welcoming me here.
ian crossland
What was the name of your two books?
lee smith
The Plot Against the President and The Permanent Coup.
Actually, I wrote another book in 2010 called The Strong Horse, and that's about the Middle East.
Oh, so that was.
ian crossland
Oh, what's that about?
lee smith
No, that was about the Middle East.
I lived in Cairo and Beirut for a bit.
And so I was reporting from there, trying to explain the different things that were going on and how we misunderstood 9-11.
We took it too personally.
Thought it was about us.
It was not about us.
It was about different fights going on in the Middle East.
ian crossland
I would love to talk about that.
lee smith
OK, I look forward.
ian crossland
And what's your Twitter so people can follow you on Twitter?
lee smith
Lee Smith.
unidentified
D.C.
ian crossland
Thanks, man.
You know, there's not much I love more than supporting my friends and seeing them thrive.
So if you want, you can buy a T-shirt, a We Are Change T-shirt from Luke Rutkowski and We Are Change.
I don't know where, but it's on the Internet somewhere.
And also go to TimCast.com and check out the shop.
Why don't you go get one of those t-shirts?
Or a mug, maybe, with my likeness on it.
lydia smith
Oh, yes.
I also wore my We Are Change t-shirt today.
It said, uh, make 1984 fiction again.
And, I just looked this up, Jeffrey Toobin is back at CNN.
Yes, you can literally get away with some gross things.
tim pool
Oh, man.
Maybe we can talk about that in the bonus segment.
And then maybe something more serious.
All right, if you haven't already, go to tipguys.com, become a member, smash that like button.
We will see you in the bonus segment.
It usually goes up around 11 or so p.m.
Thanks for hanging out and we'll see you all there.
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