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April 2, 2021 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool

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Timcast IRL - Black Nationalist Farrakhan Follower ATTACKS US Capitol, One Cop Dies w/Julie Borowski

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unidentified		you you
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		you earlier today a man drove through the barricades in the
		capital he He killed a cop.
		He got shot.
		He had a knife.
		And, you know, all of this is still relatively breaking news.
		They're saying they believe it's not terror-related, though many journalists are expressing skepticism.
		Not that it is or isn't, but that isn't it a bit too soon.
		And now we're getting information on the suspect, apparently a black nationalist, and that is from the New York Times.
		It's not just my opinion.
		They said that this man was a proponent of the Nation of Islam, a follower of Farrakhan, a vocal supporter, and they mentioned this is a black nationalist movement.
		Apparently he had posted something on Instagram or Facebook that indicated he was very much a leftist identitarian.
		And I'm not surprised this kind of thing is happening, but I'm still... I'm a bit unsurprised that they're going to try and downplay the politics on this one, because things have already been a bit chaotic in terms of left-right culture war, and the establishment seems to be very much deferential to and protective of leftist extremism, as we've seen.
		So we're going to talk about all this, and it's very heavy stuff.
		We do have a bunch of other stories.
		Things are getting crazy in Crimea.
		I mean, this is just... It's a heck of a Friday, right guys?
		Joining us today is author, commentator, founder of Liberty Junkies, Julie Borowski.
unidentified		Hello.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you want to just give a really short, quick introduction?
unidentified		Hi, my name is Julie Borowski.
		I'm a commentator, an author, and owner of libertyjunkies.com.
		I'm also on YouTube, Julie Borowski.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Cool.
		Right on.
		And we got Ian Children.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Tim.
		Ian Crossland over here.
		Hi, everyone.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		And you have me in the corner, pushing buttons, as always.
		Sour Patch Lids.
		Lydia, technically.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, normally we open, and it tends to be more humorous and jokey, and we let it draw out a little bit, but... You know, coming up here, we always go through the day trying to figure out what we're going to talk about, and what the stories are, and what's interesting.
		And then you get something like what happens today, and it's scary stuff.
		I mean, in any circumstance, if somebody crashed a car and, you know, got into it with cops, we probably wouldn't talk about that kind of thing, but this is hyper-political, in a hyper-polarized space.
		And there's just so much to go through.
		There's the establishment Democrat leftist type saying, clearly this was a white male.
		It's exactly why Mitch McConnell was wrong.
		They should have doubled down security.
		And then you got all these demands for more security.
		So it's just going to get rough.
		Before we get started, I want you to consider one very important thing.
		First go to TimCast.com, become a member, and YouTube absolutely frowns upon these kinds of conversations.
		It is this kind of conversation that got me axed on Facebook.
		No joke.
		When everything went down on January 6th, I did a video just basically saying, here's what's happening, and they told me, you're out, and you're not allowed back in.
		And I, okay, I guess.
		But if I'm going to report the news, I'm going to report the news.
		I didn't say anything against the rules.
		They just don't want that kind of conversation.
		So, it's very likely YouTube does not appreciate this either.
		This is reality.
		When news happens, news gets reported.
		But YouTube wants to be the foofy, family-friendly, you know, basketball-dunking Minecraft website.
		I'm sorry, this is not reality.
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		All right, we're getting serious now.
		This is the story from the New York Times.
		Suspect in capital attack appears to have been a follower of Louis Farrakhan.
		For those that aren't familiar, he is the leader of the Nation of Islam, who has repeatedly promoted antisemitism.
		The suspect, Noah R. Green, 25, was identified by two law enforcement officials and a congressional official.
		He was from Indiana and died of being shot by Capitol Police.
		On Facebook, Mr. Green had posted speeches and articles written by Mr. Farrakhan and Elijah Muhammad, who led the Nation of Islam from 1934 to 1975, that discussed the decline of America.
		Two law enforcement officials confirmed that the Facebook page, which was taken down on Friday, had belonged to Mr. Green.
		Mr. Green posted on Facebook about his personal struggles, especially during the pandemic.
		Quote, To be honest, these past few years have been tough, and these past few months have been tougher.
		I have been tried with some of the biggest unimaginable tests of my life.
		I am currently now unemployed, and I left my job partly due to afflictions.
		He also spoke on Facebook about the end times and the Antichrist.
		On March 17th, he posted a photo of a donation he made to the Norfolk, Virginia chapter of the Nation of Islam, along with a video of Farrakhan's speech entitled, The Divine Destruction of America.
		Later that day, he encouraged his friends to join him in studying the teachings of Farrakhan and Mr. Muhammad.
		The Nation of Islam is a black nationalist movement that has advocated African-American self-sufficiency.
		All right, I've got a thread pulled up from Andy Ngo, who's dug in a little bit to who this guy is and some of the things he said.
		And I want to point out something.
		The way the New York Times is quoting this guy as if we're going to look at his statements Not that long ago, there was a police officer who was paraphrasing what a mass shooter had said.
		And he lost his job, basically, for this.
		He was attacked.
		They accused him of placating this evil man.
		Why is the New York Times... What's with the double standard?
		We get it, though.
		We see the double standard all the time.
		The mainstream establishment, corporate press, and politicians are deferential to left-wing extremism.
		They would come out in seconds Condemning this, and saying everything you'd expect him to say, terror, ban guns, all of that stuff, if this actually was a white person, as we've often seen.
		This time, though, many of these people did come out, they did say that.
		Now they're gonna become very quiet, now that we're learning who the suspect is.
	That's exactly what happened with Boulder, in fact.
	Now, Andy Ngo posts about the suspect here, and I just want to point out a couple other things.
	He says, in his last Instagram post before the attack, he wrote, the U.S.
	government is the number one enemy of black people.
	We are very much seeing leftist identitarianism, and it's reaching extreme levels.
	When it comes to Antifa and Black Lives Matter, we've long seen what I refer to as like blunt force extremism.
	In that the attacks they engaged in weren't the most violent or most lethal, but they were consistent and there were several instances of them.
	So when these riots start and they burn down buildings and they cause massive destruction, the loss of life is extensive across the country.
	But the media, as I mentioned, deferential.
	When it comes to these mass shooters, these are high-profile, very acute instances where everyone's attention is just grabbed instantly.
	So when you're dealing with endless antifa and Black Lives Matter violence, but on average they're punching people and they're beating people, that stuff doesn't become national news.
	Now, as things become hyper-polarized, this may be a one-off, and hopefully this is just some sick man and that's the end of it, but it may be that things are going to get even worse from this.
	I know, maybe it's a bit pessimistic for me to say, but I can already see the demands that We ban guns over this.
	That we reinstate security around the Capitol.
	Lock it down.
	Send in the National Guard.
	Now, a lot of these people were saying this before they realized this shooter was actually a black nationalist.
	But we have this tweet from Rep.
	Ilhan Omar.
	She said the death toll would have been worse if the assailant had an AR-15 instead of a knife.
	She's completely unrelated to what happened.
	But there's already efforts from many people to weaponize this.
	So, I don't know what you guys think.
	It's always hard to kind of segue into a conversation when we're dealing with such serious Sure, I think there's absolutely a double standard.
	you know, kind of this hyperpolarization. But I suppose considering, you know, we've all talked
	about this, I'm curious your thoughts, Julie, on the hyperpolarization, the conflict, the security
unidentified		state, and you know, everything's been going on. Sure. I think there's absolutely a double standard.
		You know, a few weeks ago, when that guy who happened to be white shot up the Atlanta spas,
		people automatically said, oh, this is a white supremacist terrorist.
		May- Maybe we don't know, but they were quick to jump on that.
		We don't really know his intentions.
		Maybe he was a sex addict.
		We don't know if it was Asian or not Asian.
		If it was just like him going after these women for being women and tempting him.
		We don't know.
		But as soon as he did it, it was like white supremacist terrorist.
		But now this guy who is We know he's a Nation of Islam, which is a black supremacist, very racist group.
		Like, everyone thinks they're racist.
		That's not a controversial thing.
		This guy went to the Capitol with a knife.
		He killed a police officer and they're saying, oh, there's no terrorism.
		There's no, we see no evidence of terrorism.
		Like, it's been a few hours, people.
		Like, what did you have to investigate that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Spend a few minutes, maybe.
unidentified		Yeah, they're just like, well, he was an Islam, he was a Nation of Islam guy, so therefore it's not terrorism.
		We don't want to, like, offend people, you know, we don't want to say, you know, make people uncomfortable.
		It's like, come on, it's a few hours.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, what's interesting is when that tragedy happened in Atlanta, The I believe it was the police. I'm not sure they said it
		wasn't race related right so I here's what I find interesting
		They came out and said no no it wasn't he was a sex addict two of the victims were white
		But even you point out. We don't really know we did an investigation a
		Lot of people on the left immediately said it was a race thing
		Even when the police come out and say it's not.
		Now, I know, well, maybe it's a bit unfair for me to say this, but I'll speculate, and I'd be willing to bet on this, the left is immediately going to change their tune and say it wasn't terror, it was a disturbed young man, and that's the game they'll play.
		Unless they want to ban guns, you know, I think it's, it's ridiculous that Ilhan Omar was like, what if he had a gun?
		What if he had a tank?
		I don't know.
		It's ridiculous.
		This is, this is a tragedy.
		You can speculate whatever you want, but they're going to, they're going to do it because it's an excuse to gain power.
unidentified		Absolutely.
		But he had a knife.
		He brought a knife to a gunfight.
		He got killed.
		That was dumb.
		It was a poor strategy, Tim.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Could it be suicide by cop?
unidentified		Oh, it's possible.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Did he ram?
		He rammed somebody with his car?
		Is that right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I guess he rammed through the barricade.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I see.
unidentified		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So he used a car and a knife.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You know what gets me about this Georgia thing?
		Is it with Georgia?
		Is that where the guy murdered six women?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In the spas?
unidentified		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Like they'll do if they're going to do like tests or like investigations and then in a year and a month, they're like, OK, we figured out he was racist.
		We figured out he wasn't racist.
		Like, what difference does it make?
		That guy murdered six people.
		He was deranged.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Eight people, I think.
unidentified		Eight people.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It's.
		Yeah, it was terrifying.
		You wanna call it terror or not terror?
		It was terrifying for those people.
		Maybe it wasn't political terror.
		What's the difference, man?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
		It's like hate crimes, right?
		Where they're like, we're gonna investigate your thought process before you committed a crime.
		It's like, dude, hitting someone's illegal.
		The reason why you did it, you did it.
		You know what I mean?
		The action is illegal.
		I can't read your mind.
		And they try to infer as to what you were thinking.
		One of the biggest reasons I have a problem with terror laws and hate crime laws is that they're going to be selectively used.
		In this instance, they're already saying it wasn't terror.
		Well, dude was a black nationalist who posted on Instagram that the American government is the enemy of black people.
		What?
		Are you kidding me?
		And they're going to be like, no, look, I don't care if they do or don't just keep it consistent.
		I think this guy committed a crime.
		That's enough.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Let me see if I got this straight.
		So this guy was on Facebook and Instagram posting about how much he hated the U.S.
		government.
		And then he went to Washington, D.C.
		and rammed into the Capitol fence, and they're calling this definitely not terrorism.
		That's an act of political terror.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It is an act of political terror.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm not I don't support these like terror laws where you throw people in Gitmo because of the way they were thinking when they did the crime.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's from Indiana.
		He went to D.C.?
		What was he in D.C.
unidentified		for?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Was he in school or...?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm gonna have to look it up.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He was making a political statement.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		I was sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Why would he go to D.C.?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point, Lydia.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So Glenn Greenwald called this out.
		We have this post from Politico.
		The suspect was not known to Capitol Police or D.C.
		police officials said.
		Robert Conte, the acting DC police chief, said the incident does not appear to be terrorism-related and there was no indication of a nexus to a member of Congress.
		Glenn Greenwald responded, on what basis did the police pronounce the capital attack does not appear to be terrorism-related?
		How was it remotely possible to determine the mode of the attacker this early, which, by the way, is what determines whether an act of violence is or is not terror?
		Politics.
		It's politics?
		Yeah.
		How long did it take before they finally banned Farrakhan off all these social media platforms?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I wasn't following.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They got rid of all the white nationalists.
		Farrakhan was allowed to stay on.
		Twitter allowed him to say things that were overtly anti-Semitic.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He's a supremacist.
		A racial supremacist.
		Just happens to be a different race.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If you took quotes from Farrakhan, and in any instance of the word black, you just swapped out white, you'd probably confuse people because they'd think it was Hitler.
		Absolutely.
		Yeah.
		And so I'll say this.
		He should be allowed to be on Twitter.
		He should be allowed to say what he wants to say.
		Good.
		Because when he was saying this stuff, we all saw it.
		And now, when the New York Times brings it up, we know it.
		And when we see the suspect, we know what he believed and who he followed.
		And that's creepy, creepy stuff.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Good to know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		But think about what happens when they ban this guy.
		The only reason the New York Times is like they repeatedly promoted anti-Semitism is because the news stories that erupted when Farrakhan would post these things or when these videos would come out.
		You get rid of that speech, you get rid of that, you know, that ability to share information.
		And we'd be wondering, like, who's Farrakhan?
		I don't know what this is.
		It was a religious fellow.
unidentified		I think racists should expose themselves.
		Let them talk.
		We'll judge them, hold them accountable.
		But yeah, don't ban them from stuff.
		I want to see what they want to say.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, I think the issue, though, is that these, like, the ultra-woke people, they're the racists, you know?
		And they do a really good job of masquerading as the not-racists, you know, going around telling everybody that they're anti-racist.
		They got that book, what is it, Anti-Racist Baby?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Kids' books that are being made and tell the kids how to be a, you know, a cult member and things like that.
		Well, they go around naming their cult anti-racists, and it reminds me of the Simpsons when Homer's telling the story about when he's a kid, and they had the No Homers Club, and then he's like, but you let in that other Homer, and they're like, we're allowed to have one, like they made the name specifically to address something they were, you know, didn't want.
		Anti-racist!
		And then they go around literally discriminating based on race, and encouraging overt, hardcore identitarianism and antisemitism, and I'm just like, man, There's so many well-to-do liberals that are so obsessed with social justice narratives, they overlook the fact that black nationalist anti-Semites exist in large numbers with a massive following, and they're sitting here going like, but what about Trump supporters?
		What about them?
		Are we going to wave a little American flag around?
		I get it.
		The people at the Capitol.
		There's a decent amount of people that went crazy and stormed the Capitol.
		That was bad.
		But you compare that to everything we've seen and the strength of the movement from things like, you know, Farrakhan.
		It's just not even a question.
		But that stuff's just... They ignore all that.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		This actually seems to be a prevalent thing in the African-American community because if you look at the attacks, well, if you look at the attacks on Jewish people in New York City, a majority of them are done by a certain ethnic minority.
		I know, I know, I know, you can't say it, but you can look at the videos and you can be like, oh my gosh, this is like actually a problem in their community.
		And I wonder if that is the influence of the, you know, the nation of Islam.
		I don't know.
unidentified		I think that's why the Atlanta spa shooting got so much outrage because it was a white dude.
		I think they were secretly happy that it was a white person to say, oh, these white people hate Asian people.
		Honestly, I've never met a white person that hates Asian people.
		I love Asian people.
		I wish they would move in next to me.
		I want my kid to go to their schools.
		I love Asian people.
		I think it could be a problem in the black community.
		I've heard there's tensions between the Asians moving in and having stores and liquor stores and convenience stores and they think they're taking away, they're making profits off the black people.
		I don't know, that's not my community, but I've heard there's tension there.
		But they want to focus on, oh, these white people hate Asian people.
		I don't think that's really a huge thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's, when you look at the rules of YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc., you're allowed to disparage white people.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, outright.
		Like, they've even talked about how, I think, I can't remember which platform it was, they said, you know, you're allowed to make disparaging comments on traditionally non-marginalized groups of people or whatever, like, we know what that means.
		And so, you know, thinking back to, like, old comedy, it was always safe to be like, oh, okay, white people, you know... White people crazy.
		Yeah, you can make fun of them.
		And I understand the idea behind it, right?
		The left would tell you, it's like, oh, there's white privilege.
		And because of that, you're punching up, which is fine, but punching down is wrong.
		But that means, because of these rules, you can't have very real conversations that are important.
		You mentioned the gentrification problem.
		That's absolutely very prominent within left-wing activist circles and within Black Lives Matter.
		And to clarify too, what Asian means in many of these communities is not like Chinese or Japanese.
		It's Indian as well.
		It's Middle Eastern.
		So when I was in Ferguson, they burned down a gas station during the Michael Brown riots.
		And I interviewed some of the people there.
		Why did you burn down this gas station?
		They said, Because the Asian guy comes here and he buys a gas station in our neighborhood.
		Why is he making money off of us?
		He doesn't live here.
		So they burn it down.
		We broadcast that.
		That was on Vice.
		That's on YouTube.
		I mean, I don't know if they still have it up, but that's what they said.
		So there's very much racial tensions.
		When I was in Milwaukee during Black Lives Matter rioting, they straight up were yelling, get the white people.
		F the white people.
		And an 18 year old white kid got shot in the neck.
		I grew up watching this stuff, and it's no surprise to me.
		But I'm curious, you know, when I mentioned that I did a video saying I wasn't going to be covering what was going on in Milwaukee at the time because of the racial tensions, and I was like, for someone they perceive to be white, it's dangerous.
		You know, this kid got shot in the neck, so I'm not going to stick around.
		It's remarkable.
		I did that video because I think I had like 20,000 subscribers.
		And there are people who follow me, and they wanted me to post videos from what was going on on the ground, and I said, I'm not gonna do it, and here's why.
		And it was just to my followers.
		Well, the video ended up going viral and getting shared by a bunch of conservatives, who were like, oh, look at this.
		This is, you know, proof of something.
		And the left was like, Tim Pool only did that to grift.
		I'm like, to who?
		My 20,000 followers who I know and follow and comment?
		How dare you make money?
		But it's insane how these things are real.
		And these racial tensions exist.
		And there's absolutely racism in the black community, in the Asian community, in the Latino community, in the white community.
unidentified		Towards each other as well.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, definitely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean Asians.
unidentified		Oh my gosh.
unidentified		Hispanic people talk about each other.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		It's just gossip.
unidentified		Yeah.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		But I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I feel like There's kind of like, I feel like we're in a cultural, uh, the left is in a cultural Mexican standoff.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Where they're all just, there's just like piranhas everywhere.
		These, these culture warriors ready to cancel you the moment you say something that's cancelable.
		So no one will have honest conversations about their communities or other communities or racism because they'll get canceled the moment they do.
unidentified		I hope I get canceled though, because Dr. Seuss got canceled and his books are up, up, up, up, up.
		I have children's books.
		I hope I get canceled so I can go top on Amazon.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What are your children's books?
unidentified		I have two children's books.
		The first one is Nobody Knows How to Make a Pizza.
		It's based on Lytton Reed's eye pencil, but I made it for kids about pizza.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Awesome.
unidentified		It talks about, you know, division of labor, spontaneous order, all those economic terms.
		Yeah.
		So there's no central planner making this pizza.
		It's people all over the world doing the tomatoes and the cheese.
		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Because there's no one person who grows tomatoes, farms dairy, wheat, oregano, and then brings
		it all together with sugar.
unidentified		It's all different farms and different- Yeah, you think cheese pizza's really simple, but it's really complicated.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah, I wonder if somewhere someone's actually decided to make a pizza farm.
		Like, let me just make all the... We got cows, we got tomatoes.
unidentified		I think you guys could do it.
unidentified		It's a lot of work for pizza.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And so I'll... Going back to the more serious conversation, I suppose.
		The left is all... They're all staring at each other.
		And I feel like most of these people... Actually, let me stop.
		Leaked video came out.
		I just saw this on Twitter.
		A teacher, one of these teachers in LA, you know, they do this woke stuff, apparently forgot to turn off Zoom and then went on like a racist tirade about this other black family and the way that she perceived black people and the way they acted.
		It was crazy to hear this.
		And people are sharing this being like, these are the people teaching your kids woke critical race theory.
		Trash.
		Overtly racist.
		They know they're racist.
		They're pretending not to be racist, but they're super racist.
		And then it's really funny because then you'll get Black Lives Matter being like, yo, these white people are racist.
		And we're like, stop saying everyone's racist.
		But they're literally pointing to these like urban leftist, you know, critical race theorist people too.
		And I'm like, yeah, okay, well, you know, those people are racist.
		They're racist, yeah, for sure.
		But that's what they're like behind the scenes.
		And they don't say it.
		So I feel like they're all sitting there.
		It's like that Key and Peele segment where he's sweating like crazy, just like standing there.
		And that's what many of these racist leftists are doing, waiting for one person to just say the wrong word.
		I think it's intentional.
		Ah, an ex.
unidentified		How dare you?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's offensive.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Women.
unidentified		Aha.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I got you now.
		And they're all just hitting each other.
		They don't have any real conversations about stuff.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think it's, I think it's intentional.
		I've been today has been very exhausting in that.
		If you look at what's happening across the world, when we'll probably talk about
		later Crimea, um, and China with Hong Kong and Taiwan, uh, Russia and Ukraine, like.
		Bingo.
		Now they have the Americans all stuck in this paralyzed fear state.
		So like we're not going to get involved.
		That's what they want.
		If there's going to be an invasion of of Crimea and Ukraine by the Russians and an
		invasion of Taiwan and Hong Kong by the Chinese, they don't want the United States
		to react in a cohesive manner.
		And if this is the stuff we're focused on, we're not going to.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Bingo.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it feels like.
		In many ways, the establishment has just decided, OK, wokeness is our is our path, I
		suppose, which it feels that way because from the intelligence agencies to the
		military, even the embracing like the chief diversity officer or whatever, the
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Are you kidding me?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why would there be a movement, an effort in the federal government to divide this country?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why would why would the Americans be intentionally dividing themselves?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It could either be outside influence, or it could be a form of cultural apoptosis, where one cell is no longer needed in a system, it destroys itself.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So if the United States has become vestigial in the human experience, that we're just ending our own experience for us?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think so.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I would say this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If this is the case, we're conquered.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
unidentified		But OK, listen, people say, oh, I hate division.
		I hate division.
		I want to be unified.
		But people, I think, secretly love division.
		I make commentary.
		If I make it very divisive, people will eat that up.
		People love to see their enemies, you know.
		Yeah, to own the libs.
		We gotta own the libs.
		I think people like the vision.
		I think they'd like to see their enemies hurting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They want war.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They want conflict of some sort because people strive for purpose.
unidentified		People are bored.
unidentified		They want something.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but we're supposed to own the communists.
		It's supposed to be like, own the commies!
		You know, make that anti-commie stuff and then make fun of the communists in the concentration camps.
		Instead, we're ripping at each other.
		So if these other countries engage in some kind of conflict, if we really do escalate in the South
		China Sea or in Eastern Europe, the US is everyone's fighting each other. So I guess the point I'm
		trying to make is we need to be like, hey, everyone in America, we come together and we respect each other.
		We're all Americans first.
		We're not this race first or this identity first.
		Instead, the prevailing ideology that's infected all of our institutions from the news media to schools and now the military is divide everybody up based on immutable characteristics and some other self-identified characteristics so that we are as fractured as possible.
		Okay, I'm sorry, like any strategist is gonna be like, that's a terrible idea.
		So then when conflict arises, we're too busy fighting ourselves.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You know, as infantry, they want you like an infant.
		They want your mind clear.
		They don't want you to have all this social order.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Don't pull an AOC on me.
		There's a surge at the border.
		They're not insurgents.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Infantile.
		They want to wipe your mind clean of your past identity and make a new one that is synonymous with all others.
		And that's why you're part of this infantry.
		You're born, you're birthed into the port.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The people who are fighting in a conflict, who are unified, who know who's on their side and knows what they're fighting for, and often we have corrupt officials and institutions and governments that manipulate the goodwill of the people who are willing to fight and lay their lives down for the right cause.
		They get manipulated and they get exploited and that's kind of what America's been doing for quite some time, especially in the past several decades.
		But I have tremendous respect for those that are willing to do that.
		The problem is the corrupted system.
		More importantly, however, when I see the Pentagon chief diversity officer, and he got cancelled because he had racist comments or something, I don't know.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Amazing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, we're infected.
		You know what I mean?
		Like, we're fractured.
		There's no coming back from this, is there?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can't convince the cultists to abandon the cult.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They go insane.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		There's no coming back from this.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We altered the globe the way humans will interact forever.
unidentified		Yeah, I thought maybe a silver lining of COVID was like people coming together, you know?
		No, the complete opposite of that happened.
		We had a common enemy here, COVID, and still, nope.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What I absolutely love about the COVID thing too, in terms of division, is that conservatives initially were like, you should wear a mask.
		And it was Fauci and the Surgeon General who were like, no, no, no.
		And conservatives were like, don't listen!
unidentified		Don't listen!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then it switched!
		And then what happened?
		Now the conservatives are the ones who are like, ah!
		And the left is like, we're three!
unidentified		I was consistent on that, okay?
		With the CDC and Fauci was saying, oh, don't wear a mask, there's no need to.
		I was saying, you are liars.
		You can check my Twitter.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Were you selling Gadsden flag masks?
unidentified		I was selling them, but later, later, later, later, okay?
		And then they switched their mind.
		It was really because they didn't want people to hoard masks.
		They were liars.
		And that was terrible because now people are not listening to them on vaccines or anything because they're liars.
		However, I still said, hey, wearing a mask is a good idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Fauci admitted this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In an interview, he said, we didn't want people to buy up all the masks when the medical professionals needed them first.
unidentified		Yeah, so they're a bunch of liars, but now there's a bunch of libertarians saying, oh, you believe in these government conspiracies because you want to wear a mask.
		It's like, man, I'm consistent on this issue.
		I'm not a child.
		There's such a juvenile thing.
		If the government says something, I'm going to do the opposite.
		Well, a lot of times that is true, but not all the time.
		Use your brain, not just reactionary, juvenile.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I got hit up by somebody when all this started going down with COVID, and they were like, yo, the government said you don't need masks, quick, buy a bunch.
		And I'm like, you know what, man?
		It's so predictable.
		A bunch of the libertarian type people I know are like, I don't trust the government.
		They're saying, don't, I better buy one.
		And then when the government says to do one, they're like, you can't tell me what to do!
		That's dumb!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's called obstinance.
unidentified		It's very dangerous.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now, I'll tell you that, like, I tweeted, wear 12 masks and it got like 3,000 retweets.
		Like, just wear 12.
		And people were like, I don't know, 13.
		It's like, look, I picked an arbitrary number that was stupid, you know?
		I actually have an idea.
		We should do this for like a bonus thing for the website.
		Just put on as many masks as we can.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		See how many we can put on?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, just keep putting on masks.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I can't breathe anymore.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Until... I can.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Keep going.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's huge.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't know.
		You might get to a point where you're like... Too many masks.
		Yeah, like, 12 might be the limit, I suppose.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		On your elbows, on your ears.
		I mean, your ears have gas canals in them, too.
		Do you need to mask your ears as well?
unidentified		Eyes?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Gotta cover your eyes.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		No, just your mouth.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Just put a pillowcase over your head.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can still breathe through it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, and then you're safe.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I saw a commercial for those big spaceman helmets.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The one that we have?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're, like, really taking it seriously.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh, gosh, of course they are.
		The company is.
		We have it right here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Put your money where your mouth is, Julie.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here you go.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		You wanna put it on?
unidentified		It's just infinitely more comfortable wearing the space helmet than it is wearing a mask.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You don't have to put it on.
unidentified		You don't have to.
unidentified		Oh, I was really going to do it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Yeah, they're great.
		It's got an electric filter in it.
unidentified		I wanted to try it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, you can try it if you want.
unidentified		I'll try it after.
		I was so excited for these things.
		It's like an alien thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So cool.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's just infinitely more comfortable wearing the space helmet than it is wearing a mask.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I will say, as much as goofy as I think it is, it's not uncomfortable.
		I mean it is uncomfortable.
		Because it's big and heavy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I gotta be honest.
		I'm gonna wear it.
		You know why?
		I got allergies.
		And it's got like a HEPA filter or whatever.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Two of them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I can walk around outside and I won't sneeze.
		And y'all be jealous.
		And dude, my allergies are bad, man.
		It's like...
		Yeah, because all the trees are exploding and it's basically you're getting all this tree spunk up in your business.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		It's true, though.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I cut back on sugar and stopped getting allergies.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		It does help.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That helps, yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		My allergies are gone.
		I used to get horrible pollen allergies.
		I start drinking water, cut out soda.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Water, yep.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And I no longer am allergic to pollen.
		I can smell it.
		If I take a huge whiff of pollen, I'll feel it tickle the back of my throat still, but it's like dehydration.
		It dehydrates the nasal folds.
		So I drink water, it kind of absorbs the pollen.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I read on this website that if you eat worms, like parasites, then you'll get cured of your allergies.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe it was just one of those crackpot hippy-dippy websites, but what it was saying was that—actually, I probably saw this on Reddit, because I don't read any crackpot hippy-dippy websites—but it was basically saying that you have two different immune systems, I suppose, one for parasites and one for pathogens or something.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh, interesting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But because we've cured ourselves and, like, eliminated parasites for the most part from our diets, we just have this, like, crazy immune system.
		That could just be a bunch of bunk nonsense from Reddit.
		Probably.
unidentified		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe someone knows better so they can tell me.
unidentified		Did you try it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, not me.
		But, uh, you know back in the day they used to like, like, like tapeworms for diets.
		You would like take the pills.
		Is that true?
		That's true?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I think so.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I looked that up.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and it was like, tapeworms!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, you'll lose weight quick!
unidentified		They used to bleed people to try and heal them of illness.
unidentified		They'd cut their legs and get out the bad blood.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you remember that product from like the 2000s where you would take a pill and then you couldn't digest fat?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you'd just crap it out?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I remember that.
unidentified		So gross.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Was that... I remember a lot of diet pills in the 80s.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it's like, it would cause your body to not digest fat.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so you would just, like, expel it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It was like dex something.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, dex something.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't know.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Do you remember that?
unidentified		No.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I thought you said something earlier that I thought was kind of profound, is that people need conflict.
unidentified		I do think they need conflict.
unidentified		I think people secretly like conflict.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like, have you guys seen Wonder Woman?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Not the new one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The new one with Gal Gadot?
		No, not 1984.
		The good one that came out.
		So that's basically it.
		She thinks that if she defeats the God of War, Ares, the war will stop.
		And then Chris Pine's character is like, dude, people fight, man.
		Like, there's conflict.
		You can't do anything about it.
		And then it's like, Ares, all he does is whisper in the ear.
		He doesn't make the war.
		He just, you know, nudges people in the right direction to, you know, excite that conflict.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And like, if he wasn't around and it just built and built and built, then it might explode into some, some giant gorilla conflict.
		I'm going to move this girl.
		But some giant, like life-ending conflict.
		So maybe a little bit of conflict frequently is healthier than letting it build up.
unidentified		Bottled it up.
		It didn't just automatic.
		Yeah, just a little bit.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's part of why relationships, I think, are like, you know, you're married.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Being in relationships, a lot of people love that when it comes to conflict.
unidentified		You know what I found today?
		That rage rooms are coming.
		Where you go into a room.
		You break stuff.
		It's kind of like, you know, escape rooms are coming to things.
		There's rage rooms now where you have a hammer and they let you break whatever you want in this room.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
unidentified		So you get some stress out?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that would be cool.
unidentified		COVID-related stress.
unidentified		Yeah.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		That's fascinating.
unidentified		I think it's cool.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I play a lot of games to get my conflict resolution out of my system sometimes, but it's not really physical.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's mostly mental.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I didn't know about this Rage Room thing.
unidentified		That's fascinating.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I just pulled this up from NBC.
		Why a Rage Room might be the key to venting your bottled frustration.
		But Rage Rooms are not appropriate treatment for everybody.
		No, I couldn't handle that.
		That's crazy to me.
		That would make everything worse.
		Yeah, I would not enjoy breaking stuff and going nuts like that.
		Yeah.
unidentified		I kind of would.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, everybody's got their own different way of doing things.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		They actually say about catharsis that it's not necessarily good.
		It can make things worse.
		You know, one of the things that I'm starting to wonder during the course of this conversation is that maybe because we're not in relationships, we're not married and we don't have families, we don't want to break stuff.
		I mean, yeah, it's not that you don't want to break stuff, but you don't have like the rock tumbler effect of being in a long term relationship where you're just kind of like knocking the rough edges off the other person constantly and they're doing the same for you.
		And maybe that leads to our Emotions being bottled up and yelling at each other.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, I was just I was just thinking that Because of something you said earlier when you are talking about just being busy with your family Because it's something we've absolutely heard from a lot of other guests and a lot of our friends where it's like oh, man You know with the school like we've been so wrapped up.
		I haven't been following the news all that much You know cuz I got two kids or whatever.
		That's what I hear a lot of and so I'm thinking right now You know what would end the culture war?
		Seriously, just end the protests.
unidentified		Make some babies.
unidentified		Get something to do.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because then they would have no choice but to be wrapped up in family.
unidentified		Nothing else matters, just your family.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They'd be productive, they'd be working, and they'd be occupied.
		Idle hands are the devil's playground, but I suppose we should say idle nethers are the devil's playground?
		No, but I guess that's not the issue.
		I think, you know, people actually know that is the issue.
		Yeah, I was gonna say maybe people are still hooking up.
		But they're not.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		They're not having babies.
unidentified		No, no, no, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're not even hooking up.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's true, too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		Overwhelmingly, Gen Z is just like a bunch of prudes.
		No, no, no.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		They can't.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		COVID.
		I think of chemical castration, not really castration, but like all these weird new food chemicals that get added and created in laboratories.
		You know, all these new sugars, sucralose, aspartame, fructose.
		And yeah, but it's making people's sex drive go down.
		We've heard testosterone levels.
unidentified		Low sperm count.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but Ian, to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
		And so you go on these things about sugar, and then you make the assumption that these things relate to these other problems.
		When, if you actually look at the data, the reason for this has a lot to do with social media and dating websites.
unidentified		Porn.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		All of it together.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And porn.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Now COVID, but it was even before COVID, but COVID now, it's like, oh, I can't even, that person might be tainted.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, that's illegal in the UK.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		COVID?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Uh, uh, dating.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In the UK.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Is it really?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What happened?
		Yeah, it's a crime.
		You can't have sex in the UK.
		It's illegal.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		What?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is... Let me repeat this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is a crime in the UK to have sex with a person.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Is that including Brit, all the Commonwealth?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Unless you're in a relationship with them, I think.
		Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
		I think Carl Benjamin said that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		This is headline news today.
unidentified		How are they enforcing that?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Right, seriously?
unidentified		I saw where they suggested... Yeah, Reuters.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is from June 2nd.
		This is from last year.
		British government faces mockery over coronavirus sex ban.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I would talk them to.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh my god.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What a very nice of them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		keeping people safe under amendments introduced to English rules on Monday no
		person may participate in a gathering which takes place in public or private
		and consists of two or more persons Britain's tabloid media cast it as
		the bonking ban what this is is about making sure we don't have people
		staying away from home at night So two or more people.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So two people can't be alone together.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's what they're saying legally.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, this is like, look at this, like put the Google thing.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		October, Reuters, UK bans sex between government aid workers.
		October 16th, sex ban, England's COVID tears.
		October 25th, UK's sex ban explained.
		June 4th, coronavirus sex ban.
		Dude, it is like the UK has gone like fuel, has gone full.
		There we go.
		Full.
unidentified		No sex for y'all.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No sex.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Geez.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Could you imagine if, like, Joe Biden came out and was like, my fellow Americans, we're making sex illegal.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		There'd be riots.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Come on, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There'd be riots.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Huge riots.
unidentified		Dude, this is so, it's creepy, isn't it?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That is dystopian.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's, it's, I'm, I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm shattered.
		Shit.
		It might sound hyperbolic, I'm not literally, I don't think I'm shattered, but my DNA is shattering.
		Like I feel shaken with this news of Russia and Ukraine and then this social war thing is like... I don't know what to do.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I could have sworn I read something that was sent to me by Carl Benjamin, where it was like, the UK says you can't have sex with somebody, and then also it was just like, some high-ranking government official was telling people to just go, like, crank it out themselves.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's right, yeah.
unidentified		You know, I read some good recommendations where you're supposed to watch your partner jerk off in front of you, but not get close to him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
unidentified		Yeah, that was a recommendation from the government.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's weird.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're not family-friendly on Friday Night, I suppose.
unidentified		Sorry, I'm sorry guys.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like the ultimate authoritarianism, I suppose.
		We're like, social media is a problem.
		It's making young people not have families.
		And then they have no purpose.
		You know what's really funny?
		Is it because I don't have kids?
		See, it's my own fault.
		I've been talking about how millennials and these generations have no purpose.
		So I did this video a while back about how Jordan Peterson provided purpose to many young men.
		Find the heaviest thing you can carry and carry it.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		And then wokeness was the purpose for these leftists.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So you had these young people who are sitting there like, why am I alive?
		And then like hitting themselves in the head screaming.
		And so they searched for anything and some people found wokeness.
		It's almost like you guys are watch Underworld.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, you never seen it, you know, where like the Corvid, what is it called?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Corvenus.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like basically this dude's got this, like, immortality thing, and then one son's bitten by a bat and one son's bitten by a wolf, and then it creates the two different tribes, the werewolves and the vampires.
		So you have these people who, like, drift into one tribe or the other, SJW, anti-SJW, because they're trying to find some purpose in their lives.
		And, you know, like I mentioned, Jordan Peterson provided purpose to a lot of these young men.
		The left absolutely hated it.
		But then I realized that, you know, my perspective was lacking because I don't have kids.
		The real purpose missing from these people's lives is family.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Just outright.
		People before these generations didn't have idle hands, weren't desperate for a purpose.
		They had kids.
unidentified		They had like 10 kids.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
		My great grandmother had 12 kids.
		I'm like, whoa, how do you do that?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now it's frowned upon.
unidentified		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		How's your life changed?
		How different is it?
		How's your social perception changed since you've been raising a family or raising children?
unidentified		The world scares the crap out of me.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What aspects of it?
unidentified		Just what kind of future my son is going to be into and how can I change that?
		And I think I've changed my commentary a lot, where I've been, you know, I want to make a difference, a positive difference in people's lives.
		Where before, you know, I was a little bit trolly.
		I'm still a little bit trolly.
		But I feel like I want to make an impact in the world because for my son and hopefully future children's sake, I'm also scared of pedophiles.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah.
unidentified		I feel like...
unidentified		There's so many out there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Creepy people.
		The Epstein thing was a conspiracy theory.
		It was a conspiracy theory for years.
		And Alex Jones was mocked relentlessly for talking about these things.
		And then Mike Cernovich and a reporter from, I think, the Miami Herald, I'm not sure, started filing lawsuits.
		I think they then joined up.
		I could be getting the story wrong, but they were both very much going after these files.
		All of a sudden it was like, boom, this is real.
		This happened.
		You know, the documents were there and you were called crazy if you said that these high profile people like
		Harvey Weinstein, for instance, granted he's a bit different, but still these like like these are extreme
		instances of severe predation.
		And you were a conspiracy theorist, it wasn't true.
		Even though, like, the crazy thing is Seth MacFarlane, Family Guy Jokes, would make fun of Kevin Spacey and Harvey Weinstein.
		And you were wondering, like, what do these people actually know in these industries?
		So definitely.
		But I also wonder if, I don't know, just, what can you do for your son's future?
		You know what I mean?
		Let me get more nuanced.
		I hear a lot from people who have kids where they're like, I have to make sure I'm around for my kids, but then they're willing to sacrifice the bigger picture for their kids.
		You know what I mean?
		Like they're willing to say, I'll forego this conflict and risking myself to fight for these ideas because it's better that I can be there for my kids to give them food than it is that I defend a future.
unidentified		Yeah.
		I'm pretty much a stay-at-home mom.
		I think I sacrificed some stuff to be a stay-at-home mom, but I think it's absolutely worth it.
		I heard an interview before from a hospice nurse, and she said, what is people's biggest regret on their deathbeds?
		And they say, I didn't spend enough time with my family.
		Yes.
		She says she'd always heard it from men, but in recent years,
		she's heard it more from women who chose to have a career and,
		you know, send their kids off to daycare.
		And I understand some people have to do that.
		Some people do not have the financial means.
		I understand that I am privileged in that sense.
		However, if I have the option to be a stay at home mom and be there with my kids,
		then I will take that.
		So I think that I, I, it's worth it.
		I think just that I have influence over my child and it isn't just a stranger who's raising them, whose ideology I may not agree with, and who may be out of his life.
		And I'm always going to be there.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I was going to ask, are you going to send him to public school?
unidentified		That's a decision we have not made yet.
		Okay.
		But he's only three.
		I am homeschooling him, I suppose, even though, you know.
		He's learning his colors and numbers in the dinosaurs.
		He knows quite a few of them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Have you given him any skateboards?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You should give him a skateboard.
unidentified		He actually has a scooter.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, I guess.
unidentified		He has like a dinosaur helmet with spikes on it.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I like that.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's punk.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It was crazy, uh, you know, growing up skateboarding, there would always be these scooter kids at the skate park and skateboarders were so annoyed because they'd get in the way and didn't know what they were doing.
		But I'll tell you the craziest thing is like, I see the scooter kid at the skate park and I'm like, oh, these scooter kids, man.
		Like they're always in the way.
		I get it.
		They're kids.
		They're here.
		They're playing.
		It's fine.
		But their parents got to tell them about like teaching about etiquette and stuff.
		And then it's like four years later and the scooter kid is now like 15 and he's doing backflips and like launching, you know, 10 feet in the air.
		And I'm like, damn.
		Scooter kid's good now.
		This is rad.
		Now it's fun to watch.
		So yeah, scooter's cool.
		No, I think definitely physical activity, mental activity.
		And I'd say, dude, if it were me, don't put him in school, man.
		It's tough.
		Having your kid understand the system from within it is probably really important, but it can only be done with your guidance outside of the school.
unidentified		Absolutely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, for me, I went to grade school, and they, you know, they fill your head with complete bunk garbage.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then I would go home and have my mom be like, that's not true.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		She'd set you straight, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then I was like, oh.
		And then I realized, like, I realized what the system was, and sort of, I was very young.
		But I was like, oh, okay, so this is not entirely legitimate.
		And so I would see how the system worked, but was constantly being reminded from outside of it what the system was.
		Also, I started working for my family's business when I was like 9 or 10 years old because we had a family cafe.
		And then you hear real conversations from real adults.
		You deal with real money and you have real experience in the real world.
		You go to school and everything's so trivial and nonsensical, you know?
unidentified		Yeah, I think parental involvement is number one.
		I grew up going to government schools, but I had a family who was more conservative.
		My grandfather was a huge influence on me.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He was more of a libertarian type, and he would tell me, you know, just kiss their butt, get an A, and then just Everything they say go out the other ear It is a lot like military academy like public school sit down wait for the bell to ring raise your hand Don't speak out of line, you know stand up the dress some places have dress codes.
		I Wonder if sending kids off to military school at the age of four or five is wise I don't know about military school pre-military school.
		Let's call it like pre-k.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I No, I think having good parents, a good balance between between masculine, feminine and physical activity and mental activity, having a strong father and mother who can provide a good balance of perspective.
		Suppose not everybody gets that, though.
		You gotta be lucky.
		Are you gonna have a dad who's, like, a short, overweight middle manager who is deferential to everybody and just, whenever someone pushes him around, he apologizes and tells his kid to keep his head down and not fight back?
		Or is he gonna be this, like, ripped lumberjack guy who's like, don't take nothing from nobody.
		And then he like, here's your shotgun.
		I know you're seven, but I think you can handle a 12-gauge, son.
		And then you gotta have the mom being like, don't give him a 12 gauge when he's 7.
		You gotta have that mix, you know what I mean?
		Yeah, you gotta give him the 410.
		Come on, man.
		Start small.
		Give a kid a gun that big.
		No, I don't know.
		I think, you know, it's tough, especially now because millennials aren't having kids.
		They lack purpose.
		And there seems to be a, in my opinion, dangerous cultural shift that has nothing to do with tradition or progression.
		You know, it's not about being progressive or being a traditionalist.
		It's about, I mean, humans have kids.
		You know what I mean?
unidentified		That's our purpose.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I don't know if it's purpose, but I know when you have kids, your kids become your purpose.
		And that if you don't have kids, humanity ceases to exist.
		Your culture ceases to exist.
		Here's what's fascinating to me.
		When I hear from liberals, and their attitude is very much, who cares if America ceases to exist?
		Have you ever heard the sentiment from liberals?
		You see them on Twitter?
		They'll take a quote from a conservative who's like, you have to have kids to preserve America and its culture, and they'll be like, why?
		And that's why it's really fascinating to see conservatives, this overlaps a lot with like immigration, concern about immigrants coming in and displacing American culture and getting rid of Christmas.
		Conservatives very much want to preserve, you know, conserve these traditions and their culture.
		I'm actually not particularly conservative.
		I just think if you don't have kids, then there's no people.
		So I mean, I guess we can build robots to replace ourselves.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We're not doing that either or live longer.
		We live to be 200.
		Then we don't, we need to have like 40% as many children or something.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe it's like what you were saying, Ian was an apoptosis.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's for real, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like the, the, the mice, the mouse utopia.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You get to a certain point where you're just consuming and doing nothing.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And you just before, um, the Roman empire crumbled, basically a lot of
		homosexuality started or homosexuality spiked, I believe.
		And there was just a lot less making babies.
		I don't know.
		They were living in like the age of gluttony, pretty much.
		They had everything.
		They didn't care.
		They didn't want to serve in the military anymore because they might lose what they had and they love their things.
		And then they got conquered from the outside.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		I think, you know, people mention a lot the mouse utopia.
		Have you heard of that?
		They basically created this space where they put a bunch of mice or rats or something and they gave them all food and said, like, no matter what happened, they never ran out of food.
		They never ran out of food or water.
		And so they eventually just, like, some stopped eating.
		Some started eating others.
		Some just stopped reproducing and just died.
		And, you know, people wonder if we as humans are susceptible to something similar where we've reached this point where people don't have to work.
		And I mean it.
		When you've got somebody who lives in New York City and their job is to write articles for BuzzFeed, I'm sorry, that's not work.
		It's not work.
		Work is like, I have to grow the food, I have to hunt, I have to build the house, I have to start the fire, I have to generate the electricity to power the machines, I have to find the energy source so that we can stay warm in the winter.
		Writing articles about celebrity gossip is not work.
		Oh, they'll say it's so hard.
unidentified		Isn't that a good thing, though?
		Like, I look back, I'm a woman, obviously, but my great-grandfathers were coal miners and such hard work.
		I look back at my great-grandmother's, like they had to cook everything from scratch and wash everything from, you know, they didn't have laundry machines or dishwashers and I just, I think we're so lucky to not have to do all that stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Going back, yes, and so I'll attach that to what Ian was saying about, you're talking about Rome, right?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or Greece?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, both probably.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think there's a lot of vanity and gluttony at the end of both of those.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's what I see.
		When the culture is stagnant or if the technology isn't fast enough.
		It's a weird hybrid moment of reaching that apex of technology with population to where the culture stagnates.
		Then once Rome collapsed, the technology persisted.
		A lot of this information persisted and spread out a little bit.
		And then started to improve, and people started to fight again and work hard again, and then you come to the colonial era, European colonialism and things like that, striving for more and no longer just being like, I want to be a layabout glutton because I have all this stuff.
		So the technology remains, things become easier, but then the quest re-emerges.
		So maybe what's going to happen for us is that some kind of, you know, massive, you know, century turning or millennial turning, millennium turning, where we've reached this point where we as a culture are all gluttonous because technology has granted us this.
		After our culture collapses, then there will be a struggle again, but that technology will still exist.
		So then in another couple hundred years, it'll be even better for everybody.
		And then they'll start becoming gluttonous and lazy.
		You know what I mean?
unidentified		I guess the question is, do we have it too good in America?
		Because my, my father-in-law is from the Soviet Union and he, you know, it wasn't such a great time in the Soviet Union.
		He's like, looks at these American kids and teenagers and millennials having this Depression and anxiety and he's like what the heck you guys have pretty much everything you want You live in nice places.
		You have all this food and why why could you possibly be depressed?
		Because they don't they don't have a purpose right and I think you know Andrew Yang wants to send everyone $12,000 a year.
		It's like I don't know.
		People can just sit back and relax and play video games all day and get a decent apartment and have enough money.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Should we get offensive?
		Should we anger all the feminists?
		Are you prepared to make feminists angry?
unidentified		Okay, what are we doing here?
		Alright.
		Let's go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I got this.
		This is actually fairly old.
		This is from Zach Goldberg.
		He's a great data researcher and journalist on Twitter.
		And he tweeted this.
		He says, overall, with one exception, white moderates, those in the 18 to 29 age group are more likely to report being diagnosed with a mental health condition.
		The differences among white liberals, though, are striking.
		Almost half of white liberals in this cohort report a diagnosis.
		And in this graph, he shows us four different age groups, 18 to 29, 30 to 49, 50 to 64, and 65 plus.
		65 plus from liberal, moderate to conservative, low instances of mental health.
		I'm sorry, mental health conditions.
		Low incidence of mental health.
		No, no, no.
		The opposite.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		We just don't have any.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is amazing.
		Among 18 to 29-year-old white liberals, 45.9% mental illness.
		White conservatives, 20.9.
		Less than half.
		This is amazing.
		Even among the 65 and up, the white liberals are overwhelmingly more mentally ill than moderates and conservatives.
		Now we're going to offend the feminists.
		Let's break down a little bit these demographics, because Zach Goldberg gives us another one.
		He says, some of you asked for it, so here is the last chart broken down by gender.
		The biggest gap with age X ideological group is between white liberal men and women in the 18 to 29 category.
		That's right.
		White liberal women between the ages of 18 to 29 have a 56.3% instance of being diagnosed with a mental health condition.
		White liberal men, 33.6%.
		Among 30 to 49 year olds, white liberals.
		Women, 39.7%.
		Men, 29.7%.
		And it's very, very similar, but even among white conservative women, 27.3% in the 18 to 29 age bracket.
		Now, the first thing I'll say is, I think the age thing shows us a generational shift in mental health diagnosis.
		Someone who's 65 probably was not diagnosed with conditions when they were young, and other older don't care to go to the doctor and actually get diagnosed with this.
		The difference, the important factor, is the gap.
		Among white liberals, 65 and older, it's almost identical.
		15.2 to 15%.
		White liberal men and women, 65 or older, have similar instances of mental health issues.
		So there is something creating a massive gap between white liberal Gen Z millennials And I think... I think I know what it might be.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		What is it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not having families.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not having relationships.
		Not necessarily families.
		Not necessarily kids.
		But no relationships.
		And I particularly think no kids.
		And I wonder if... And you can give me your opinion and Lydia's as well because you're the ladies in the room.
		We've had other people on the show say that the reason women are unwell and unhappy and depressed is because they're not having children.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		What do you think, Julie?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what do you think?
unidentified		Maybe?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Sorry, I hope you don't mind me asking, were you ever like super depressed?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Did you find this to be an issue for you before you had your kid?
unidentified		I actually got a lot of anxiety after.
		Postpartum anxiety, yeah.
		Oh gosh.
		Yeah, I think with older people, I think there was just a stigma against reaching out and getting therapy and all that.
		With the younger people, I feel like being a liberal would be so hard because if you don't have kids, like you were talking about, you're focused on all this other stuff and a lot of stuff is just out of your control.
		Like the liberals are very focused on like climate change issues.
		I know that's a huge one with them having climate change anxiety and just You know all this racism and stuff and they're it's out of your control where I think conservative people are kind of more focused in words and on the individual and on their families where liberals is like I want to save the world of world peace and it's like no there's Ukraine and Crimea and all this stuff and you can't do anything on an individual level about that.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That is such a good point, because you're right, conservatives do focus on the individual level.
		And that means they do things like make families, they have kids, they focus on their work, they find things to do that are meaningful, and they don't tend to stress too much about stuff that they cannot have any possible control over, like global warming.
		When it comes to the older people, a lot of them probably did struggle with this stuff and they probably just learned to live with it and maybe never got diagnosed.
unidentified		Or yeah, keep it hush-hush.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Just don't suck it up.
unidentified		Yeah, you're destroying the family.
unidentified		Exactly.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Keep it together.
		But then like the whole family thing, I definitely think that the fact that women aren't having children is incredibly depressing to them.
		I just want to throw my two cents in there because I think that's probably one of the biggest problems that we face.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know the meme about... You guys ever watch Archer?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I love that show.
unidentified		No!
unidentified		I don't think I'm intelligent enough.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's not a smart show.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I just play games.
unidentified		Video games.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There was that episode where... It's been a long time since I watched Archer.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I just rewatched it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What's the name of the... Alana?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that her name?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Uh, wait.
		Ilana?
		Lana.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Lana.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Lana, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Lana!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Archer keeps calling her baby crazy.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it's funny.
unidentified		She is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But it's like, there's a joke that very much resonates with, I think, I think 30 Rock did this.
		This joke.
		TV shows and culture have made jokes about women whose biological clocks are ticking and how they want to have kids.
		Men don't experience that.
		I'm wondering if that plays a role in why there's a gap between men and women.
		Like a biological difference.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It does for me.
		I'm not in a rush to have kids, and if I was, I'd be a completely different person.
		My goals and my behavior would be completely off.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's dudes.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I can have kids when I'm 80.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's a privilege.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's not as easy, but you can.
unidentified		They found that men also lose fertility.
unidentified		I mean, later than women, but like forties and fifties, and there's more of a chance of having a problem with the child.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's true.
unidentified		I don't want to destroy the male ego here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But the issue is that if a guy's firing off several million each instance, if 90% of those are just deficient, he's got a couple that are working.
unidentified		No, you got like millions.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So what happens is that you'll end up seeing, you know, older guys have kids, you know,
		and for women it's a lot different.
		You know, I know it's like the craziest thing that this is an offensive topic, but it is
		like feminists.
		Whenever I talk about this kind of stuff, it's like all the feminists are lighting me
		up on Twitter.
		They're all angry.
		And I'm like, is it is it wrong to point out that they're they're advising women to freeze
		their eggs?
		I mean, do your thing, man.
		More power to you.
unidentified		It rarely works.
		It rarely works, freezing eggs.
		I think we're kind of lying to women, saying, you know, there are instances of 40-year-old women having birth, but they're rare.
		Do you really want to take that risk?
		Probably not if you really want kids.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So think about this, right?
		We're talking about mental illness.
		I don't want to act like I am saying this is the sole reason people experience mental illness.
		No, of course not.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		It's a huge factor.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I'm saying, I believe it's a huge factor in the fact that as a 35-year-old guy with no kids, I should probably start thinking about having a family, but I got it.
unidentified		Whatever, I'm a dude.
		But are you energetic enough for kids if you're 40, 50, 60 baby years old?
		Because you saw my son, he was jumping up and down on those feed bags.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I got energy for days.
unidentified		I'm a crazy person.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But the point is, I don't have to consider a biological limitation.
unidentified		If you were a 35 year old woman, you definitely would.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I'm wondering if there are women who are sitting here, and you guys tell me what you think, when they're looking at the media saying, just freeze your eggs, and work, and be a CEO, and they're thinking to themselves, but I want to have kids too!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you've got a combination of mainstream liberal social stigma telling you, no, you can't take time off, and the physical realities of, you might have to.
unidentified		You could be a CEO later in life, though.
		Like, your kids are so young for such a short amount of time.
		Like, I'm 32.
		I have the rest of my life to work.
		I can be 40, 50 years old.
		My mom was a stay-at-home mom.
		She's still working.
		She got it all.
		Women, you know, there's also the thing that women can have it all.
		No, you can't.
		You can't have it all at the same time.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Okay.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I think we have it backwards.
		And I do think that you have a point because I've known so many great and amazing women who went and they raised their kids.
		They got them like up into high school and they sent them off and they're like, and then they went back to school.
		A lot of them became nurses.
		Some of them became teachers and pharmacists and stuff.
		I was like, that seems like such a good balance because if you want to work by the time you're that age, you'll know exactly what you want to do.
		Your kids will have a firm start in life.
unidentified		Yeah, and you can have your career and your kids at the same time and you're not worrying about, I'm 35, 40 years old, I might have to get IVF, which is really expensive.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You mentioned your kids are really young for a short amount of time.
		Reminds me of this really funny story.
		This guy posted on the internet, he was like 25 and he went and visited his dad.
		Or it's like he was at his parents' house for the holidays and out of nowhere his dad walks in the room and just grabs him and lifts him up as high as he could.
		And he's like, Dad, what are you doing?
		And his dad said, I saw a meme where it said, one day you lifted your child for the last time and didn't realize it.
		And then they both started laughing.
unidentified		His dad was basically like, I can pick my son up whenever I want.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But no, it's an interesting point too, like, people don't realize that you pick your kid up one day, the next day you don't, and that may have been the last time and you never notice.
		There's gonna be a last time.
		And so that dad walks in, he's like, picking up his 25 year old man of a son.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I love it, that's cute.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Do you guys think that there's resentment between women and men?
		The women resenting the men their age that don't want to have kids and don't have to.
		And the women are like, but I feel guilty for resenting them because they shouldn't have to.
		They're not biologically bound, so why would they?
		But then they're internalizing this resentment and lashing out against men.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think there's some women who do, but I think there's some men who do, you know what I mean?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		My bigger concern is not the individual, it's what we're encouraging and exacerbating in culture.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I would ask that because I think I have some deep resentment against women that want to have kids with me at my age because they are on a time clock I'm not, and I know they are, and I shouldn't feel that.
unidentified		It's hard, the pressure, yeah.
		Well, I think that's why you more often see a younger woman and an older man.
		I think it kind of makes sense.
		The men at a later age are more financially stable, more mature, and they're better able to raise a child where the younger woman is both more fertile.
		So I think that that combination makes more sense.
		So I would say, you know, if you're a young 20 something year old girl, Probably don't date guys that are in their young 20s because most of them, you know, they don't want to have kids right now and they don't have to.
		Maybe go a decade up or so.
		That's just my opinion.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And now here's the really offensive part for the feminists.
		The kind of person who's going to be writing an article consistently, or writing articles consistently, Is not likely to be, you know, a stay-at-home mom who's got kids and dealing with them.
		You tend to see the careerist feminists who are in these positions at media outlets with the time and energy to write these articles.
		So their perspective is that of one type of person, right?
unidentified		Oh yeah, as a stay-at-home mom you don't really have as powerful as a voice, I would say.
unidentified		Right.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Definitely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's really fascinating to see all these feminist writers, and it's no surprise then, that many of the women who work in digital media are feminists, because, you know, they don't want to have families, they want a career, and they want to fight for that.
		That's their opinion, that's why they're there, or one of the reasons, and they're going to write those opinions over and over and over again.
		Then it's interesting, because I wonder how that affects Other men who know it's like, Hey, I want to have a kid
		before this age, but everything you read from every woman in a high profile media position is saying, don't have kids
		freeze your eggs.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I was thinking if my mom had focused all the energy she focused on me and my brothers into the world, it would have
		been very bad for the world because she was very neurotic, not in a harmful way, but the neuroticism as a personality
		trait, overly just micromanaging and wanting everything to be perfect.
		And for me to not be exposed to the wrong thing, and like, if she had been doing that to other people, I think that
		would have been devastating.
		So I see your point.
		I don't know these people are blogging and as opposed to treat.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, so I When I look at this chart from Zach Goldberg, and you can see that consistently there's a gap between men and women.
		Except for moderates, between 50 and 64, men are more likely to... This is fascinating.
		Check this out.
		Among white moderates, men are more likely to have been diagnosed with a mental illness by about one percentage point.
		You wanna know what I think that might be?
		50 to 64 years old.
		Divorce?
unidentified		No.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		War veterans?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		Vietnam.
		Korea, maybe.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Even Iraq at this point.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The first Iraq war in 1993.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		God, 20 years ago.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Which was way more brutal than we heard about in the news, by the way.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		20 years ago.
		Some of these guys might have been 30 years old, and they might have been a career, had a career in the military, and now they're getting deployed, and so they've seen some stuff.
		But that's only one group.
		It's only moderates.
		I mean, among liberals, it's not there.
		Among conservatives, it's still women.
		But I wonder, why is it, and no matter what you say, you're going to offend somebody, that women consistently report having more mental health conditions?
		Is it because women are more willing to go to the doctor?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, probably.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or is it because men are big and strong and nothing gonna get me down?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Depression?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'll punch it out of myself.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'll just forget about it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Guy wakes up.
		He's like, I'm depressed today.
		So he punches himself in the face.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		He's like, no, I'm not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm pretty sure that would be a mental illness.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe you should go to the doctor.
unidentified		Yeah, I think, you know, seeing a therapist admitting you have a problem is seen as a weakness to men.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to acknowledge my own neuroses.
		I feel stupid when I do that.
		And I feel like I'm creating it when it wasn't there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think for me it's more, I'm too arrogant.
		Not in that I'm like, no one's going to tell me I'm weak.
		It's kind of like, no, I self-analyze and I self-diagnose and then I try to assess and solve any things that I see in myself.
		So when I'm feeling depressed, when I'm anxious, when I'm angry, I kind of, you know, question and think about it and try and figure out what's conducive to a positive working environment or to my goals.
		And if this thing I'm feeling isn't doing that, then I need to navigate that myself.
		And I do, and it works for me.
unidentified		Are you more self-reliant than a woman who may see a benefit in talking to another person about it?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Talking.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Or a man.
unidentified		Or a man, sorry.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Self-reliance.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		How do you build that trait up?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Practice?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Go wander through the woods for a few days by yourself and learn how to survive, I guess.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Responsibly, with a cell phone.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		When you were making YouTube videos in the early days, would you just hyper-analyze your behavior?
unidentified		No.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You never like just poured over your videos and was like watching yourself and thinking like, oh, that I have that trait.
unidentified		I can't watch.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, it's the comment sections that do that for me.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Tim sure has listened a whole lot.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, I know.
unidentified		I've learned a lot about myself from reading the comments section.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you've got a decentralized network of people talking about what you're doing wrong.
unidentified		It's like, it's great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, when, when, when, when they're in good faith, but even when they're not, it's funny because there's a lot of people who will claim, claim I say something too much, not realizing that there's like a period where for like a few days, I'll say one thing too much and then it goes away.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That does happen to people.
		We go through phases of like sayings and stuff, or even like the way we talk, like accents.
		Sometimes your posture probably for a few days will be a certain way.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yes, we all straighten up.
unidentified		That's interesting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there was a period where I would say, at the end of the day, like 10 times in a video.
		I remember that, yeah.
		And then people were like, dude, you say at the end of the day all the time.
		I'm like, yeah, that's a good point.
		I should stop saying that.
		And then there was like a, then like when I was trying to correct it, I'd be recording and I'd be like, look, anyway, at the end of the day, then I'd stop and I'd be like, okay.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Self-correcting.
unidentified		I love it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So anyway, and then I'd go and I'd chop it out.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, nice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do a clever edit so you can't see it.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I got a question.
		So do you think this is why the APA thinks that masculinity is toxic or whatever?
		Because guys don't go to therapists?
		Because they do things like self-analyze and tend to be stoic and they don't really want to talk about their feelings?
		What do you think?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Probably.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What's APA stand for?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		American Psychological Association.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think the reality is that there are some men who are just weak, pathetic, and they can't handle the realities, and there are some strong men who just don't need to be told what's wrong with them.
		I'm kidding.
		But in all seriousness, there are some guys that are stoic and calm and pragmatic and rational, and there are some guys who do need help who feel like they can't do it because they have to emulate these other kind of guys, you know what I mean?
		So, for me, like I said, I don't think there's any kind of sitting down and talking to someone about my feelings that's ever gonna help me in any way.
		It would absolutely waste my time.
		And I'd be frustrated and angered by it.
		If I have an issue and I'm feeling some way, I have to, like, navigate in my brain and, like, draw it out, figure out what it is, what's bothering me.
		Okay.
		Now we can move forward.
		Here's our plan.
		Sitting down and talking with someone would be like, I'd be looking at them going, you're going too slow for me.
		I need to solve this problem in five minutes, not an hour.
		This doesn't work.
		But there are a lot of people that do need that person and they're scared to talk about it because they want to be seen as tough.
		They don't want to be seen as weak.
		They need to do it.
		People need to realize about the individual man.
		It's about you.
		You need what you need.
		So I'll tell you this.
		The one thing you should always do is don't care what other people think about you.
		People are like, you went to the doctor.
		It's like, I did.
		I felt like I needed it.
		Then you should do it.
		You should absolutely do it.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, one of my favorite quotes from Marcus Aurelius is that even a soldier needs the help of his fellow soldiers.
		And I was thinking that, to me, speaks about the psychology of men even back in the Roman Empire.
		Like, this is something that he knew that people needed to hear, especially guys.
		Like, you have to put it in a way that guys understand and sympathize with.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I definitely feel like, for me personally, when I hear the narrative of guys being too macho and not wanting to go to the doctor, it really feels like a woman's perspective.
		Absolutely.
		I don't hear it from guys.
		I swear to God, in my life, I have seen a guy cry a handful of times.
		I've talked to my friends, and I've rarely, if ever, had a guy be like, I need help, and like crying about their depression.
		But I have had guys who've done that.
		I have seen people who have lost loved ones, who have lost their dog or whatever, and it's devastating, and they're in pain, and they want to talk about it, or they want to be alone and just work through their feelings.
		But I definitely feel like, for me personally, Whenever I hear this narrative, you know, oh, so many men are hurting and they're too scared because they have to be macho, I'm like, I just think that women are more emotional than guys.
unidentified		And that's okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's totally fine.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I guess if you're talking to the constructivists though, this whole conversation is bannable.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because they believe everything's blank slate, you know?
unidentified		It's like they say there's no difference between men and women and then they do the transsexual thing.
		It's like they're... I just don't get it.
		It seems like inconsistent.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So you're admitting that you're a bigot?
unidentified		I'm just saying like they're saying.
		It seems like they're saying there's no difference between men and women.
		Women are not more emotional than men.
		And then they say there's a transsexual thing where you can switch genders because genders are different.
		And it's like...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, so this is an interesting thing.
		You need to understand there's actually two generations of thought in the trans community.
		There's the binary trans and the non-binary trans.
		So there have been some very prominent trans women cancelled, you know, attacked and harassed.
		by the Gen Z transgender individuals, because in their ideology, it's gender non-binary, gender spectrum.
		So it doesn't necessarily mean that you're transitioning from male, you know, man to woman.
		You're literally just moving between this spectrum.
		So some people are gender fluid, which means they can trans back and forth, depending on the time of the day.
		And there's a bunch of other genders where they say it fits at some point.
		On a scale of one to a thousand, you know, I'm a 327 leaning, you know, male or whatever.
		But for the older generation, it tends to be more binary trans.
		So some of the friends that I have were definitely in the category of more binary.
		They genuinely believed there were only two genders, only two biological sexes, etc.
		Now when those people go online and post these things, they get attacked and harassed by the younger generation that believes it's a spectrum.
		I think one of the interesting ways to describe the difference in the ideologies is the common, the colloquial terminology, assigned male at birth or assigned female at birth.
		So, in my opinion, it's a strange way of looking at it, and it fits into this idea that male and female don't exist, when in fact they do.
		Male and female literally exist.
		You don't look at a giraffe and then say, we don't know if it's male or female because it hasn't told us.
		You literally just say, well, you know, we looked at it and we can see it's...
		Yeah, it comes down to like this argument about the nuance between understanding and how you quantify things.
		And it's not always easy to create a criteria for quantification.
		But the typical understanding, male and female, is a reference to the, what are they called, gametes?
		Is that the right word?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the sex cells.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The sex cells that they produce.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then whenever you say that, you'll get, you know, one of these left individuals saying, so a person who can't produce them anymore is no longer, and you're like, The exceptions.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		But it's such a little...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But anyway, long story short, there's no unified ideology in gender ideology.
		And so what happens then is Twitter's rule set and YouTube's rule set doesn't fit either one.
		It goes for both, creating this fractured, all-encompassing and broken contradictory rule set in many regards.
		So it's very confusing to navigate.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Humans are animals.
		We've always got to remember that.
		We're part of the animal kingdom.
		Always have been, always will be.
		Unless we evolved to a different species, but the Homo sapien is an animal, and when we're born we have sex organs.
		Now, you can always re-identify gender and what that means, and I think they're, like you were saying, their terms of service are trying to acknowledge both.
		Like, you can still kind of have the biological argument, but they're trying to placate or make sure that people don't get hurt if their emotions aren't trampled on, or that people have the right to artistically express their gender beliefs and things like that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I have a red line in this.
		You know what I mean?
		It's like civil rights for everybody.
		People should be allowed to defend themselves, to live, be happy, to be free from violence.
		If we're all paying taxes, then we should be allowed to share in the bounty of whatever those taxes are supposed to be paying for.
		Even blowing up kids, right?
		Which is the bad part of it.
		But hey, that's reality, and that's the kind of stuff we don't want to happen.
		The long story short is, I would love for, you know, my transgendered married friends to be armed to the teeth and buying their drugs with Bitcoin and be free from oppression from the government because they want to be in private on their farm.
		You know what I mean?
		Very pro-liberty, protect the people, let them protect themselves and let them do their thing.
		I guess for me, I have a hard line on this idea that male and female don't exist.
		Like, that's clearly just not true and it's becoming this weird anti-science movement.
		Where I turn on the TV and they say outright, like, assigned male at birth.
		Like, you weren't assigned it.
		You were, like, you know.
		It's like red.
		Maybe they could say identified male at birth.
		Maybe it would make more sense.
		Because I guess what they're trying to say is that there are some people who are intersex.
		And so if they're born and they appear to be male, a doctor could say you are when you're not.
		And then, I guess, identified by doctor as would make more sense.
unidentified		Why are we changing the complete language because of this small minority of people?
unidentified		It doesn't make sense.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It could be that it's an evolution of our species and now we're in the early ages of multi-sex organisms that we've been evolving into.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The issue is authoritarianism.
		That's the only issue I have.
		If you try to force people to do things.
		But there's a range, the statistics show it's between like, I think it's like 0.6% to like 1.3% of people that are non, they don't fall perfectly into XX or XY.
		And if we're then going to try and navigate how we respect, you know, 1.3 on the high end or even, you know, 0.6, that's still a lot of people.
		And I have no problem being like, hey man, you know, let me know what makes you comfortable.
		I'm here to work with you and things like that.
		The problem is the authoritarianism.
		So like if someone comes to me and just says, by the way, you know, this is how I prefer to be addressed.
		I just be like, okay, you know, whatever.
		If the government comes out and says, you must or else, I'd be like, I don't know about that one.
		It is really weird though.
		There's this case going on right now where a teacher refused to refer to a trans student by, um, I think miss or I'm not sure.
		Maybe it was mister.
		Uh, and then he referred to the student who was, you know, assigned female at birth as, as the nomenclature says and got sued, got in trouble, got threatened.
		And then he filed a lawsuit saying it was free speech.
		I just find it interesting, right?
		If a teacher was like, I'm not going to call you what you want to be called.
		You know what I mean?
		Regardless of whether it's a pronoun, what if the teacher was like, hey Dingus!
		It's like, my name's Bill.
		I don't care, Dingus.
		I can call you whatever I want.
		You know what I mean?
		So it's kind of like, not even necessarily humiliation, but I get the idea that people are like, I believe in using language this way and forcing someone to change how they speak because pronouns aren't someone's name.
		Pronouns are a function of language, not an individual.
		I just think there's also an interesting argument to be like, what if a teacher is calling you an insult?
		Would we be like, don't call them?
		What if he called you not even an insult and just called you like... The wrong name over and over again.
		Yeah, and didn't care.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Acknowledging.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then you kept complaining like, that's not my name.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, I wish the teacher would get my name right.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They'd probably be reprimanded by the school, I would imagine.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, we're gonna read this article because we had this pulled up before and I'm gonna tell everybody right now before we read this article I'll tell you the one thing everybody we hear the most of from guests and in conversations Not everybody says this and it's a small minority people do but we've had people come in and say I'm more than happy to do the show so long as you don't ever ask me questions about transgenderism or trans people And I'd be like, I mean, if there's news, there's news.
		If there's not, there's not.
		And I gotta tell you, if someone comes on the show and they're like, I won't talk about this, there's no point in asking because they'll just not interact with you and it'll be a really weird conversation where you're like, so what do you think?
		And they just don't say anything, so it's like, alright I guess.
		And the reason for it is, almost no matter what you do, you get attacked when you bring this stuff up.
		Well, I don't know what else to do, but, you know, talk about it.
		We have this story from the New York Post.
		CNN ridiculed for saying there is no consensus for assigning sex at birth.
		The New York Post reports, CNN is being ridiculed online for insisting there is no consensus criteria for assigning sex at birth, with critics telling the network to look just below the waist for insight.
		The Left-Leaning Network statement was quickly shared online after appeared in a news story Wednesday about South Dakota banning transgender athletes from women's sports.
		It's not possible to know a person's gender identity at birth, and there is no consensus criteria for assigning sex at birth, CNN's Devin Cole wrote.
		Critics quickly ripped the outlet for reporting it as straight fact, rather than attributing it to others and noting differing views.
		Quote, I've gotten used to a lot of woke craziness.
		Never thought I'd see biological sex in scare quotes, a Twitter user wrote.
		CNN isn't a news organization.
		They're straight up activists.
		Online media critic Lee Sabotka wrote, while conservative commentator Ben Shapiro said only an idiot would believe the network's claim.
		Others suggested a simple solution.
		I'm not a doctor, CNN, but if you look just below the waist, you may get some insight.
		And then they're just quoting a bunch of Twitter users ragging on CNN, but CNN literally did this.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		When did this come out?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		When did CNN do that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A couple days ago, last week.
		I mean, this story's from yesterday.
		And we were thinking about talking about it, but a lot of people don't, you know, want to bring it up.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's a hot potato.
unidentified		That's dumb.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's dumb?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Can I talk about it?
unidentified		No, biological sex is real.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is real.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's how we make more people.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		You either got that or this.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think one problem with this... Well, hold on, hold on.
unidentified		To be fair, Or intersex.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's the issue at hand, is that...
		You do have a lot of people who are like, it's either that or this.
		Then you have people like Dr. Deborah So, for instance, who's very intelligent, saying, well, you know, it's bimodal, there is an overlap, but for the most part, it's overwhelmingly, you know, male or female.
		If you want to have like an honest, nuanced conversation, it's really difficult to have in hyper-polarized times.
		But I'm sorry, like, I have a line, right?
		Biological sex is real.
		To say there's no consensus criteria for assigning sex at birth, I don't like the phrase assigning it.
		That's very activist-y.
		They identify you as, the doctor sees it and says, this is what the baby is.
		And they can be wrong, and they have been wrong.
		There's some prominent activists who were incorrectly identified because they were intersex.
		Like there's one woman who is actually biologically male, based on DNA.
		And the issue was, I forgot what the syndrome is called, But did not develop, like the testes did not produce testosterone.
		So now they very much, this individual looks very much female, even though genetically is male.
		And so then when you have a doctor say that, and they realize that's not true, it doesn't fit how they feel, and they actually want to be a man, like, yeah, that makes sense.
		These people are real.
		They exist.
		You know, making sure we protect the rights of all people is part of the conversation.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But when you get activists coming out and saying, actually, there's no biological sex, It's like, okay, what I got from this is this writer said, it's difficult or challenging to establish gender identity at birth.
		And then immediately in the next sentence said biological sex, as if they were the same thing.
		No, gender identity and biological sex are different.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		And they used to make that argument.
		That used to be their strongest case.
		They were like, gender isn't sex.
		Sex isn't gender.
		Who would ever possibly confuse the two?
unidentified		Yeah, that's what I learned in my college sociology classes.
		And now it seems like it's flipped, where it's like there's interchangeable.
		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think that's due to the media.
		I think it's due to a bunch of really dumb people who work in media who don't understand things, who write about things and conflated them and made the mistake.
		For real.
		So what happens is you'll get some like intellectual saying, well biological sex does exist.
		Gender is the social constructs that have formed around the biological sexes and thus people could identify between any of, you know, and any in between or outside of gender.
		In fact, if it is a simple social construct, then certainly someone could make up their own social
		construct.
		And that's an intellectual argument.
		And then someone who works for like the New York Times or Huffington Post goes,
		biological sex ain't real.
		Because they didn't understand the actual argument being presented.
		Over time, it morphs into, you're not male.
		So this is another issue I take when they say someone is like, they're a transgender person, transitioned to male or female.
		I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
		Between man or woman.
		I thought it was trans woman, not trans male.
		I thought that was offensive to say.
		But it's really hard to keep up with.
		There's another reason why a lot of people just refuse to talk about this stuff.
		Because what you say today could be offensive next week.
		It could be the right thing to say today, offensive next week.
		Case in point, Wimmickson.
		Do you know about Wimmickson?
		Wim-ex-in.
		Have you heard that?
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's Wim-in with an X. Oh, yeah.
unidentified		I've never heard it pronounced.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So it's Wim-ex-in.
		Wim-ex-in.
		The X is supposed to symbolize the symbol for trans.
		And so they changed the O to an X. It might work in written language, but in spoken language it's confusing and people are like... Yeah, I didn't know what you were talking about.
unidentified		I've seen it on Twitter, but yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's a very, very online thing.
		Regular people probably don't understand.
		Well, when that word was made, it was appropriate.
		And then, for some reason, a month later, it became offensive.
		You know, a couple months later, some organization used the word and got attacked.
		How dare you use that word!
		Trans women are women, so you don't need to say Wemexin.
		Then a year later, they started using Wemexin again.
		So it's like, no matter what you do, someone will claim, someone will say it's wrong.
		It's like, it's like I mentioned before, the liberal, uh, circular firing squad or Mexican standoff, where they're all staring at each other, waiting for anything they can use as an infraction.
		So people don't want to talk about this.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Importantly, I think don't, don't ridicule it and not publicly.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		If you're going to talk about it, do not ridicule this stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Don't be mean to people.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, as easy as it is to be like, well that seems stupid to me, so let's make a joke.
		Don't do it.
		It's not stupid to everybody and it won't be.
		In the future it'll probably be more important to other people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what bothers me about a lot of conservatives is their desire to be mean.
		Like, I'm smarter and better and you're dumb.
		I'm not saying every single one of them, but I see it a lot and I'm like, I don't like that.
		You know, I don't like someone who's like, they would approach a story like this by laughing and ridiculing and being mean.
		And I'm like, dude, but you don't win arguments by doing that.
		You know, a good example is when Milo Yiannopoulos fat shamed a guy to gym.
		And I was like, I asked him, I was like, why would you do that?
		And he was like, it works.
		And I'm like, it already worked!
		The guy's in the gym!
		Now you're gonna scan him off the gym.
		What are you doing, man?
		You know?
		Like, uh, I understand that there are people who believe fat shaming works because it makes you want to lose weight and get active.
		But the guy in the gym?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		He's already there.
unidentified		You won!
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's doing it.
		He's like, he's fighting.
		That's the kind of guy.
unidentified		It's not nice.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's beyond not nice.
		It's ineffective.
		Like, what's your real goal there?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Counterproductive.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Someone actually was saying that we were talking about something about mental illness and how we were being like kind of kind and like You know people need help people need help in society But that I had been too hard on people that are obese and that I'm treating it like it's not a mental illness and I think they might be right because I've been You know, I'm a huge foodie and into sugar and make the best of it make the best everybody comes here They're like, what was that brookie inmate?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, wow, and I'm like obesity is a pro obesity is a problem and I do believe what we see this problem, but I do not want to ostracize people that are I have that problem.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is a guy, ladies and gentlemen, who complains about the sugar industry and then makes the
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		best bread.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I know.
unidentified		What the heck?
unidentified		A little bit of sugar goes a long way.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A little bit.
		People, people, people, it's like a fresh bread and they cut a slice of it and people
		are like impressed every time and then you go and complain, but the sugar's bad and you're
		the one giving it to them.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Two teaspoons of white granulated sugar for five cups of flour.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Four and a half cups of flour.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that your secret technique?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It was actually from Paula Deen.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'll give you the skinny, that recipe is a Paula Deen recipe.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wait, was she the racist one?
unidentified		Yes.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Paula Deen pizza dough, that recipe.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So you're a hypocrite and a racist.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Apparently I support a racist, I didn't even know.
unidentified		Oh my gosh.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		But Ian, I wanted to ask you, have you ever watched My 600-lb Life?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		No.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I did and I was really struck by the fact that I didn't watch it like as a show.
unidentified		I've seen the commercials.
		No, it's okay.
		I watch 90 Day Fiancé.
		It's okay.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		So I actually, I watched some of it for a speech that I wrote and I was like, it's never about food.
		It's always about something else.
		These people are abused, they're being enabled, they've been manipulated, they're being like, their parents will go out and bring them to stuff because they can no longer leave their house.
		And it's like, it's not about food.
		The food is filling a gap.
		And we're lucky in America, we can use it.
		We don't use alcohol like Russians do.
		There's always a coping mechanism.
unidentified		Yeah, it is a coping mechanism, food.
		I can see that.
		You were talking about conservatives just being mean.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I want to clarify, too.
		I want to clarify real quick.
		There are some conservatives that like being mean.
unidentified		Yeah, they want to trigger the libs and do dumb stuff.
		Well, I think a lot of conservatives complain about virtue signaling, which is true.
		I mean, some stuff you just kind of have to roll your eyes at people like, I'm such a great person, blah, blah, blah.
		But I think on the right, there's also vice signaling.
		I've seen it a lot over this COVID thing where people take selfies of them in the grocery store without a mask.
		And it's like, look at me.
		It's the opposite of virtue signaling.
		It's the same thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is still virtue signaling, though.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's just for their side.
unidentified		Yeah, I call it vice signaling because it's, yeah, it's... Look at how bad I can be.
unidentified		Yeah, how bad I can be, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's effectively the same thing.
		I understand your point, though, by signaling, like, when somebody goes on Twitter and just insults and berates somebody because the right is piling on.
		So, I just am absolutely not a fan of that stuff.
unidentified		Yeah, like the whole like Meghan Markle thing.
		Like, I looked at this and I had no opinion about it, but I saw a bunch of conservatives attacking her and I'm just like, did you care about this yesterday?
		I didn't and I don't know!
		Yeah, it's just they just want to be like rude, I guess.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I got hit up by Fox.
		They wanted to have me on.
		So a lot of people saw me on Fox talking about big tech and social media.
		There were some other instances where I've recently been on Fox as well, not on the TV, on like radio and other segments.
		You have to have an opinion on everything.
		Meghan Markle thing.
		And so I get an email from a producer and they're like, can you
		talk about this? And I was like, I don't know anything about the royal
		family.
		And they're like, oh, OK.
		It was, you know, it's big news.
unidentified		You have to have an opinion on everything.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was just like, I purposefully avoid nonsense.
		Like the royal family does not have any like it's celebrity
		gossip for Americans.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Fought a war.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we fought a war.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did not have to worry about the royal family.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I wonder how frequently they hit up people and they're like, the answer
		is always yes.
		If I'm asked to go on TV because it's good for my career, even if I know
		So you get a lot of these people just feigning, you know, knowledge.
		At least you had the fortitude to acknowledge you weren't worth their time.
		You didn't seize the opportunity for your own selfish gain.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		For, you know, some advice, I guess, to say, you know, there are a lot of people who absolutely are like, oh man, I can go on TV?
		Tell me what to say.
		I never do that.
		I'm like, I don't have anything to say about the Royal Family.
		I'm not interested.
		Like, I've been invited on a bunch of big podcasts.
		I say no.
		I'm like, eh.
		What am I going to talk about?
		You give me something I can talk about, maybe I'll do it.
		Otherwise, I don't know, whatever.
		I think if people just focus on themselves and what they want to do and stay true to themselves, it's their better path forward.
		But going back to the thing about conservatives, we know that there are a lot of leftists who are virtue signalers, who will mock and grift and berate people on the right, or just not the left, and lie about them in order to earn points.
		I think a really good example is this show, exactly.
		I had a big argument with this friend of mine.
		And what had happened was I made a post about the Chauvin trial.
		Like, here's what happened.
		This is crazy.
		This is huge for the defense.
		The defense basically said George Floyd had OD'd before and had similar symptoms at the time of his arrest here.
		And we learned that, according to his girlfriend, the dude with Floyd was their dealer.
		So I'm like, this is huge for the defense.
		Because a third degree murder in Minneapolis is if you provide a substance to someone that kills them, that's your fault.
		So that's this other guy's fault, which could present very serious reasonable doubt as to what happened with Floyd and who was responsible.
		And so, you know, someone comes in and they say, oh, here comes Tim Poole's confirmation bias and all of his, you know, cult followers don't want to read the actual news.
		And I had a conversation with this person.
		I was like, you need to understand what happened here.
		You don't watch my show.
		You don't know the opinions expressed on this show.
		You don't know the opinions of the people who comment on the show.
		And you look at it and immediately assume, if we're saying the defense got a victory, you know, in today's hearing, you assume it's a bunch of Trump-supporting, red-hat-wearing, MAGA, flag-waving people, when in fact it's a variety of people who are just paying attention.
		You come in, acting like you know everything, and everyone starts trying to explain to you calmly, and you get angry.
		This is what happens for a lot of people.
		They walk into a room where people are saying, wow, the defense in the Chauvin trial, this was big.
		I mean, it's not perfect.
		And then all of a sudden they're like, what is this, a bunch of MAGA conservatives?
		You guys are all biased.
		And then when people try saying, listen, listen.
		Here's the guy who was the dealer.
		Here's what the judge said about Floyd putting the tablet in his mouth.
		And they're like, I don't know what you're talking about.
		I watched Rachel Maddow, so I know everything.
		Instead of having that rational conversation, they get mad and assert that they're right and you're wrong.
		It's a really amazing thing, I think.
		It's definitely a vice.
		When people assume it's not me who's wrong, it's everyone else.
		It's like, yo, if everywhere you go you smell crap, take a look at your boot.
		Yeah, that's my advice.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		How do you stay friends with people like that?
		Is that more of a just like you're forcing yourself to stay social?
		Do you feel like loyalty to them because you've known them for a long time?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I treat everybody with a certain level of respect.
		If there's someone I've known for a long time, you know, I'm not going to treat a person
		better just because I know them.
		You know what I mean?
		I try to be fair for someone I don't know.
		I suppose if, like, there were two people hanging on the side of a cliff and I knew one of them, like, I'm gonna save that person over the person I don't know.
		I guess it depends, though.
		I mean, these are tough questions, right?
		Like, let me ask you, Ian.
		You're standing there, and there's a cliff, and you've got your mom hanging, but then you've got a seven-year-old girl hanging on the other side.
		Who would you save?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		My God.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Tough question, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The personal desire to save your mother or the potential of the child.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		She would want me to save the kid.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, probably.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So I would.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, there you go.
		It's not an easy question for everybody.
		These are tough questions.
		It's like in Spider-Man, you know, in the movie when he had Mary Jane and the school bus full of kids.
		He saved them both because he's Spider-Man.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That was my initial thought.
unidentified		Cheating!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, use your web shooters to save both of them at the same time and we're good.
unidentified		Got it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I don't know.
		Not easy questions, man.
		How about we go to Super Chats?
		If you have not already, my friends, smash that like button.
		And become a member over at TimCast.com because it looks like we're not going to have the website up, but this is okay.
		There's actually a really obvious reason for it that I didn't consider.
		And you know what that reason is?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		What's that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why the website will not be launched as of today.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Beta testing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What's today?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		April 2nd.
unidentified		No, no, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What's today?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Friday.
		Friday?
		Weekend?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's Friday?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Which Friday?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's Good Friday.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's Good Friday.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		It's a holiday.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A lot of people, they were like, you know, look, it's Good Friday, Easter Sunday, so it's a four-day weekend.
		And I was like, oh, OK, OK, OK, OK.
		I'm not going to tell anybody to work on Good Friday and through the weekend for Easter.
		It's like, I get it, man.
		But anyway, go to TimGuys.com because I think early next week, Hopefully!
		But regardless of the format of the website, we are preparing shows and we want to get started on this stuff.
		Ian was talking about some developers and doing this open source technology and just kind of going crazy and building out technology and tools that are gonna make the world a better place, but also making good Content.
		We're gonna do a lot, man.
		We're slowly seeding everything we need.
		We've got some people joining really soon to start producing more content.
		And it's a-coming, so make sure you sign up.
		And don't forget to like the video if you haven't already, subscribe, hit the notification bell, and share this show if you really do like it.
		All right, let's see.
		We got a ton of Super Chats.
		As always, it seems like YouTube has made it so I can't read the name of the first Super Chat, so... I can't see it.
		Can't read it.
		It says, Suggestion.
		Imagine nerdy version of Jordan Peterson that analyzes cartoons, anime, games, and tries to teach important life lessons like that.
		Incredible editing to make it as epic and entertaining as possible.
		Tim, you have to check out the channel, The Meaning of Nerd.
unidentified		Oh, interesting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, there you go.
		Snowboard Dan.
		Oh, this must be a mistake.
		He says, happy birthday, Ian.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, thank you, Dan.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is Ian's birthday!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It is, ladies and gentlemen.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		42 years old on 4-2, which I didn't see coming until yesterday.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Very cool.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And they said it's the meaning of life in that one book.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It'd be funny if after the show ends we go downstairs and all of a sudden Ian starts floating and a beam of light comes around him and his eyes are glowing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then he just starts firing gigantic lightning bolts and blowing everything up and people are running and screaming.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I feel like I'm wrapping the first trimester of my life.
		Right now that I'll go to like 150 or 120 with all this life extension stuff.
		And a lot of it's going to be like, it's going to be a different version of life, like an outer space, like a different, hopefully weird.
unidentified		You are a trip, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You just found this out.
		Someone just challenged me to a fight.
		Oh, Javon Cronin says the only thing I have ever disagreed with Tim about is how you say McDonald's like WTF is McDonald's, Tim.
		You don't know what McDonald's is?
		I guess if you grow up in the city, we jokingly call it McDonald's.
		It's, like, meant to be a silly way to say McDonald's.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Not Sheriff, really?
		Sheriff.
		It's McDonald's, huh?
		Interesting.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Like, Tar-Jay.
		Old McDonald.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Tar-Jay.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's a silly way to be like, McDonald's, instead of McDonald's.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Good old, what is it, Scottish food?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, let's see here.
		And it's the day before Jesus rose from the dead?
		Your Puritan capitalistic nature could not let you take today off and we're all thank thank thankful Tim and team.
		Yes It's Good Friday, but I'm not
		Good Friday specifically Catholic Christian Christian. Yeah, and it's the day before Jesus rose from the bed
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And then Sunday is where Item on like Wednesday and they let him hang there for two
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		days and then he died Is that what it is?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Dude stabbed him.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Jeez, what a jerk.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He suffocated to death on the cross.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is the Golgothan real?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		The what?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Golgothan.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, the hill?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Golgothan?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, that's Golgotha.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Golgothin.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What is it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What's from Dogma?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Where, uh, what's it, Asriel summons the demon made of human feces?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		No, that would be a no.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Not in the Bible, sorry.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I heard my last name Crossland is from Crossland Hills in England.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I haven't confirmed, but I think it's where they used to crucify people.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
		You should go there.
		Find out the truth.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright, let's see.
		Oblividan says, Iowa Governor Reynolds signed constitutional carry into law today.
		Took too long, but it's nice to have a right restored for a change.
		Repeal the NFA.
		Wow!
		Always amazing to hear about constitutional carry.
		That is an amazing thing.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		What state?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Iowa.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Cool.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's great.
		Remind me to visit Iowa.
		Walk around with a Barrett M82, carrying it, getting really tired because it's a heavy thing to carry.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And people are gonna laugh and be like, I get you're trying to make a point, but come on.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Anyone can do that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's a grenade launcher, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, it's an anti-material rifle.
		50 BMG.
		Yeah.
		So, you know, taking out helicopters and tanks and buildings, you know what I mean?
		When you need to.
		Matt Burkhardt says, Hey, Tim, would you consider having Jonathan Wichman on your show?
		He's from Wisconsin running for governor in 2022.
		Great candidate.
		Center right.
		He doesn't really have the resources to become a mainstream candidate.
		Perhaps.
		We don't like to take suggestions because people then turn the Super Chat into a suggestion machine.
		But, you know, we'll always look into people.
		Taddy Mason.
		Taddy Mason.
		All right.
		Taking time off from talking to Jerry says, happy birthday, Ian.
		Tim, love what you do.
		It's extremely important to promote people to think critically, but I'll catch the podcast in the morning.
		Got to get back to the jam night on ACAS.
		Hey, there you go.
unidentified		All right.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ransom Puppy says, Hey Tim, just wanted to ask you if you've heard about the band Anal Nathrak.
		Their latest music video, Endarkment, seemed to be very anti-establishment.
		I highly recommend checking it out if you're into death metal.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Not really.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not a big death metal person.
		I don't know what to say.
		Sam Ray.
		Uh-oh, this is racist.
		He says, Asians make far better stuff.
		Japan with Nissan, Toyota, Honda, Sony, Seiko, plus Tokyo is super clean and wish the general American public can learn more from their culture.
		Tim, do you have a watch collection?
		Seiko, I do not have a watch collection.
		I will say, Tokyo is awesome!
		Man, it's a really different culture, I'll tell you that.
		You know, there's a, there's a, there's a bunch of, I'll try to be family friendly.
		There are a bunch of businesses for men to relieve themselves in adult manners.
		They're literal, like, I saw the sign everywhere when I was in Tokyo and I was like, what is this?
		You know, I was like, I didn't know what it was.
		And then the, my, my, my fixer, which is, you know, a local Japanese woman, she was like, oh, it's, you know, and then she explained to me that guys, you know, every so often they got, got urges and needs and they go in there and there's like used underwear in jars and like, you know, boxes you could buy.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		It's a different place.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They're also, with advancements in artificial intelligence and robotics, they're aiding that industry.
unidentified		Thanks for the recommendation.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they are super smart, robotically.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's very different.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		They have their own set of problems.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's see.
		We got too many super chats today.
		Too many.
		Conti says, Tim, US military just had extremist stand down training today.
		Even though they talk about Antifa, BLM and supremacy are extremists, they only show videos from C-SPAN from January 6 and some shootings that was done by white people.
		Weird.
		Julian Powell says, Well, that's exactly my opinion.
		That's why when we had a comment from a Nigerian immigrant, I said, I defer to you.
		community, none of you are black and most of your comments just come from
		stereotypes and inference.
		None of you are black, so you couldn't comprehend black life."
		Well, that's exactly my opinion.
		That's why when we had a comment from a Nigerian immigrant, I said,
		I defer to you, I wouldn't know.
		I think there are a lot of people who do think they know on the right and the left
		and try and tell other communities what it's like.
		It's the weirdest thing.
		And it's the perfect example of one of the reasons I don't like my serious problems with the critical race theorists is when I get some uppity white progressive being like, let me explain to you what it's like to be a marginalized person.
		And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
		We don't do that here.
		Don't come to me and bring that to me.
		Sorry.
		But, uh, respect, Julian.
		Absolutely.
		Brother Francis says, Hi, guys.
		Wanted to apply to work for you guys.
		It would be my dream career.
		I've sent some emails.
		Hope you guys can see them.
		Also wanted to contribute to BTC Monthly.
		How can we set that up?
		It's very difficult to do, and we haven't set it up.
		But, uh, Brother Francis, we will search for that email.
		Rosa Brand says, what used to be entertainment with books and movies, even video games, has turned into LARPing.
		That's what I saw in last year's riots, kids running amok RPing.
		That's right.
		Doctor Doctor says, it's all play money.
		Shots on me tonight, while it's worth anything.
		I can make this back in experiences and hardships, all in the process of making friends and family.
		As always, thank you guys for doing you, and Ian, thanks for being the voice of unreason when there's too much of making sense.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Gotta shake it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Uh, P. Diesel has a comment for you, Ian.
		He says, infantry comes from the French word, infanteria, meaning foot soldiers, too experienced, too inexperienced for cavalry.
		Oh, so there is perhaps a relation between infant and inexperienced.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I should go into the Roman, the Latin of that as well.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm curious.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Arsion says, here to promote my channel, Arsion, I talk Catholicism, politics, and more.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Hey, there you go.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Very cool.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Trent Lamalino says, Hey gang, love what is on the horizon, but make it a mandatory daily obligation to get Adam Curry and no agenda is vital.
		Stay safe, John.
		Uh, am I familiar?
unidentified		I don't know.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Adam Curry was like the founder of podcasts, I think.
unidentified		Oh, interesting.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Trying to find a way to get a hold of him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's fun.
		John R says, Eating locally sourced honey will help with pollen allergies.
		I've heard that.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We went, we were surrounded by farms and we went to a farm and got a bunch of farm fresh meat.
		It is amazing.
		I gotta tell you, man, if you've had that store-bought bacon, you ain't had bacon until you have real bacon from a farm, fresh.
		It's legit.
		Put it on the grill and it's just like, wow.
		Real food is always so much better.
		Character Holding says, think it was hookworms.
		They secrete an enzyme that pacifies the immune system.
		They live in your intestines, clears up allergies.
		Oh, maybe that's what it was.
		This is amazing!
		Ian, you were right!
		Neyrad Agave says Ian is right. Infantry comes from the Latin root word infans meaning infancy
		It shows up later in the 1500s as infante meaning foot soldiers too low in rank too young or too poor to be
unidentified		cavalry Mhm. Very cool.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, how about that?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And we still use it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's a different system now, because those people could be cavalry, but they're put into the infantry.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So maybe it's not about wiping their brain, but that's the... And AOC wasn't wrong about the relation between surge and insurgent.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, tell me more.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Surge, meaning, the root word is to, like a sudden flow, and then insurgent was to sudden flow.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		From the inside.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes, so it was just like, Flow from within.
		The original word, surge, was just like the way we describe surge.
		It's the same meaning.
		And then insurgent was a reference to, like, the action of surging through.
		Yeah, so it became a reference to the people, the insurgents.
		So there's a similar root there.
		Baxter says, Tim, Strauss Howe is for people not well read in history.
		He references World War II, Civil War, and Revolutionary War, but conveniently skips over World War I, Napoleonic Wars, etc.
		It's always the case with these books.
		Strauss Howe is just the latest meme people in DC are gushing over.
		Because it's fun to think the world isn't so boring and we can predict the future!
		But you're right.
		It's probably true.
		LowAndLight says, Tim, please have someone on that was there at the Capitol on January 6th.
		Uh, let's see.
		Uh, you would then stop flipping calling DC a riot or a siege.
		That is offensive and BS.
		Well, I've seen videos of people at the front gate bashing the windows and then people fighting them.
		I've seen the videos of the people running in and clashing with the police, and I've seen the video of having the door opened.
		I think there are people who are there who, uh, Only like walked around and didn't realize what was going on at the Capitol and think it was only the peaceful side.
		But we quite literally had, uh, I believe we had more than one of the journalists.
unidentified		We did.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		We had two.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Who were down there telling us everything that was happening.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Richie was on like right after.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		The next day.
		Richie and Jorge, I think.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Sideways says, I'm 26 and single, so instead of kids, I get stressed out by building up and restoring, modeling, resto-modeling old cars.
		The issue may be lack of hobbies.
		Cars are my kids.
		Or cats.
unidentified		Cats.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Don't recommend cats.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Everyone get cats!
		You can be a cat person.
		Mastermind says, Ian's words about Crimea inspired me to do my first super chat.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's epic, too.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Very cool.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Crimea stuff's crazy, man.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I've been thinking about it the whole night.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Russia is amassing troops.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You were talking about this earlier.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The Ukrainians just issued a draft on the April 1st, 16,000 or so Ukrainians are now drafted.
		They want to liberate, from what I've heard, they want to liberate Crimea.
		Russia's like, nope, we're gonna send tanks if you invade us, because Russia thinks Crimea's Russian.
		Ukraine thinks Crimea is Ukrainian.
unidentified		Wow.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's a messy situation, man.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Cory Hill says, love the show, Tim.
		Please consider the legendary Mark Kern, a.k.a.
		Grums, as a guest for your show.
		He is a leader in pushing back against the insanity in the culture war and is a brilliant game developer.
		And for those that don't know, if you've played World of Warcraft, I believe there's a ring called the Mark of Kern, or it may not be a ring, it may be just an item.
		It was named after Mark Kern, one of the OG developers of World of Warcraft, and Mark is rad, and I would love to have him on the show.
		I think I've dealt with him in the past periodically.
		We should definitely reach out to him and have him on the show because he's a cool dude.
		He's working on a new video, a new video game, too, and we can talk about that.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh, very cool.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, look him up.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Razortoon says, five months ago I released my first game.
		I was hoping to bring some humor during the lockdown.
		It never took off now and it may be too late.
		Maybe you could give it a shout out.
		Check out, what is it?
		Corona Run on Steam 2D platformer.
		Interesting.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It is never too late.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's never too late.
		Maybe, you know, people will find a fun game.
		Marcus Carter says, I'm a 37-year-old disabled combat veteran with a three-year-old child on life support since birth.
		I just started a PAC, Shorting DC, because despite my problems, they are nothing to the problems we all face together if we don't recapture our government.
		Visit shortingdc.org for more.
		Hey, good luck, Marcus, and thank you for your super chat.
		Michael Schwobel says, old quote, you don't become an adult until you have people that you are responsible for.
		Definitely.
		Golan's Thop says, I will send my kid to school.
		I can teach my kid many things, but I cannot teach them social interaction.
		They need to learn to deal with all kinds of people, especially how to deal with jerks and difficult people.
		Yes.
		Okay, Rob Brown says, I love this chick.
		There you go.
unidentified		That chick?
unidentified		Awesome.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bonnie Bailey says, hugs Ian.
		Try to keep it together.
		You look so sad.
		I feel you guy.
		Try to stay strong.
		Hugs.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Thanks.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think the war stuff got you down.
		You were like really serious, or you were like, the war's starting.
		China's going to take Taiwan.
unidentified		You got me scared over here.
unidentified		It's so representative of World War II.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah you before the show you were talking about this and it's like a really scary thought if Russia makes a move on Ukraine because it sees fires over and other amassing troops the u.s.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Will absolutely prioritize Ukraine and then China will immediately seize Taiwan and they'll point at Russia say they're doing it and Then all the countries around the world that have a place they want to invade will start it will invade it They'll be like America can't stop us all And then the Russians and the Chinese won't fight each other at first, just like the Nazis and the Russians didn't fight each other at first until Germany invaded Russia.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		China is this imperialist monster, has been messing with Russia, may eventually invade Russia, and then the Russians will flip.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Hopefully it doesn't happen.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Hopefully it doesn't.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		All right, let's see.
		Zueva bro.
		Julie, it's Chris.
		Tell Alex I said hi.
		Otherwise, I love the show, Tim.
unidentified		Who's Chris?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You don't know anybody named Chris?
unidentified		I do, but I know a lot of them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Juliette's Chris.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alex has said hi.
unidentified		Oh, hi Chris.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're gonna get a text later and you're gonna go, oh!
unidentified		Yeah, there's like a million of you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I would like to know more.
		I'm not convinced it would, though.
		I think it would make a bunch of rebels.
		If the government instated the draft as a mandatory requirement, you would end up with a wave of insurgents.
		Like, this is America, man.
		You gotta realize.
		Doesn't matter if you're left or right.
		There are people going to be like, government can't tell me what to do.
		People got guns too.
		The draft, I think that the Vietnam draft, like for the most part worked.
		Like most people were like, okay, I guess.
		But a lot of people were like, no.
unidentified		A lot of people died, dude.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like in Vietnam.
unidentified		Yeah.
		They were drafted.
		Yeah.
		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A lot of people just said, okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And went along with it.
unidentified		But they didn't want to go.
unidentified		They didn't want to go to jail either.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
unidentified		The draft is pretty much slavery.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They didn't resist.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, definitely.
unidentified		Well, some people did, but still.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What I mean is most people didn't resist.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If the government came out and was like, everybody drop to your knees, people would be like, okay.
unidentified		Because they don't want to go to jail.
unidentified		Right.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		In the beginning of Vietnam, they were, it was very pro-war.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		People were into it.
unidentified		I guess.
		I've heard, especially like in World War I, World War II, like there was a lot of, you know, you're not a man if you don't go to war and that kind of thing.
		Yeah.
		A lot of pressure.
		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Joel Hart says, to quote Tom MacDonald, you worry about leaving a better planet for our kids.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How about leaving better kids for our planet?
unidentified		Ooh!
unidentified		Mic drop!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Mic drop, Tom MacDonald.
		Kuya Chris says, Hey guys, some people are blaming Trump for all the Asian hate because of the anti-China stuff.
		What do you guys think?
		I think it's an excuse from people who haven't been dealing with the actual racial problems in this country.
		In fact, I've been making it worse when they demonize Asians as white adjacent or actually more privileged than white people, or even coming to the point where just in the past few months, they were like, Asians are white.
		Alex B says skateboarding is such an amazing and skill-teaching experience.
		Dude, these people went on racist tirades for years about Asian people, so I don't blame Trump for that.
		Alex B says skateboarding is such an amazing and skill-teaching experience.
		The camaraderie, relationships, and experiences are character-building.
		I think so.
		But I think skateboarding has become too mainstream.
		It is?
		Too mainstream.
		Yeah, it's in the Olympics.
		It's an Olympic sport.
		So now, you've been seeing this over the past decade, where it's like kids who have coaches and trainers, and it's like, we want to see 50 kickflips today, and it's just so different from what skateboarding is.
unidentified		No establishment.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so it's getting to a point where there's still that aspect of skateboarder culture, but I'd be willing to bet with the emergence of park skating is when we really started to see skateboard culture kind of go bad, in a sense, or lose its soul.
		There are a lot of people who are like, hey man, times change.
		And I'm like, oh, I totally get it.
		Like, I have this anecdote about watching the older generation wear baggy pants, then my generation wore the skin-tight pants, and then the younger generation wore the flooded dickies where they're like, they didn't go down to their ankles, and I'm like, and I was like, word man, do your thing, feel good about yourself.
		But that was still part, there was still soul in that.
		Now it's like cookie-cutter corporate.
		Now it's like you watch some of these people and it's like, oh man, this is gonna be boring.
		It's gonna be like, you know.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Burning man.
unidentified		Yeah, where's the edge?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's just, it's fine if skateboarding becomes a traditional American pastime, corporate endeavor.
		It used to be, if you wanted to skate a certain way, you had to go out in the streets because we didn't have parks.
		Then parks exploded, and then there's a lot of people now who are like, why skate street?
		They only skated a park.
		It's considered not as, like, legit to do a trick at a skate park than if you did it in the actual streets, because you're, like, conquering real terrain.
		But I think we're getting danger- like, it's coming to the point now where it's just gonna be park skating.
		You know, so like, the soul, the original.
		Which maybe is a good thing, because there's a lot of kids who act a fool, and they'll like, fight with cops, or fight with security guards, and one security guard got like, killed, because some guy shoved him, and like, you know, it's a whole lot of bad stuff.
		But, you know, it is what it is, man.
		You know, we don't own everything forever, and sometimes things change.
		Gotta accept that, I suppose.
		So I'll just keep doing my thing, and stay real to myself.
		Downey Jr.
		says sex wasn't specifically banned in the UK.
		We were banned from visiting other houses outside of Bubbles.
		Outdoor meetups are allowed now, and all retail opens on the 12th of April.
		Zero restrictions from June 21st.
		Lot of people.
		No babies.
		Carl Schneider says, working hard and appreciating what you have worked for is the cure for the disease of communism.
		People who don't actually earn what they have are riddled with guilt.
		Vote for government to take care of the poor to ease their own conscience.
unidentified		Hmm.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Golan Stopp says, what do you guys think of adoption? I think it's fantastic.
unidentified		I like it.
unidentified		Yeah.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's a good idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I saw a video Lydia sent me where a chicken adopted kittens.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yes!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think that your family is not your blood relatives necessarily, but what you're familiar with and you choose your family.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Even if you feel like you're thrust into what you're born with, you can always find another place to be familiar.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Baby kittens, you know, cats like to be really warm, so they lay on computers.
		And so, the lady sent me this video where there's baby kittens, and there's a chicken, and the guy walks over to the chicken, and the chicken stands up, and the kittens are underneath it, because the chicken's all like, I gotta keep these babies warm, and the cats are like, the kittens want to be warm, you know?
		Those kittens are gonna grow up, they're gonna be like, chicken is my friend, I love chicken, you know?
		That's right.
		I love those videos when animals get along and don't kill each other.
		Alright, let's see what we got.
		Prometheus Prime says, The problem with pro-fam, anti-fam is simply complex.
		Neo-feminism has swapped the roles of men and women.
		I disagree with that, but he says, Our country and people are under concentrated attack and their target is the family unit.
		China is hyper-masculinizing and we are regressive.
		They didn't swap the roles of men and women.
		Neofeminism, for the most part, is erasing femininity.
		You know what I mean?
		Telling women to work jobs, freeze their eggs, and just have kids later.
		They're not going to men and being like, men must be in the home.
		They're going, women must be in the workplace.
		Women must be CEOs.
		There is an advocacy for, well, men can be stay-at-home dads if they want, but whereas the men must be also running the home.
		The sentiment is not there.
		Not at all.
		So it's all pushing heavily into the masculine.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		This is making me think that maybe we actually do live in a patriarchy.
		They just want us to be like men.
		They don't want men to be like women.
		I mean, a little bit maybe, but that makes me mad.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ryan McDougall says, I'm a 36-year-old single dad of an 11-year-old girl.
		Having a kid is something you don't know how great it is until you raise your own.
		Jack the Tech says, It's not about the energy you have now, Tim.
		It's about having energy 10 to 15 years from now when you're pushing 50-ish and your kid wants and needs you there.
		Dude.
		I got energy for days.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		He's the Energizer Bunny.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Either I'm a candle burning twice as bright by the time I'm 50, I'll be like... Or I'm gonna be like... There's something to... This is really out there, but like internet video and people thinking about you when they're watching... Because right now, people are watching Tim's videos.
		Thousands and thousands of people are perceiving Tim and thinking about Tim and listening and hearing his... So that energy is bouncing off our stratosphere into his body.
		You think so?
		Yeah.
unidentified		Huh.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Possibly so.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, Troy Bruce.
unidentified		I was going to add something.
		I don't know about you guys' family situations, but another benefit to having kids young that I didn't really think about is having your parents there to help you.
		Yes, good point.
		That his grandparents, my son's grandparents, have been there to babysit and stuff like that.
		And because I wouldn't trust a stranger with my child, it was really helpful for them to be around.
		So just something to think about.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's a great point.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Troy Bruce says 9th U.S.
		Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco upheld a Hawaii law that bans residents from openly carrying firearms without a license that is issued only to those who can show they need the weapon to protect life or property.
		The line in the sand has been crossed.
		It may go to the Supreme Court.
		I believe it will, but whether or not the Supreme Court takes it is another issue.
		And if they do, the floodgates may be opened and constitutional carry may go nationwide.
		That would be amazing.
		Could you imagine if overnight it was just like...
		No state can ban someone from walking around with a gun.
		Keeping bare arms shall not be infringed.
		That'd be incredible.
		Beautiful.
		In many places, particularly like Maryland, you have to prove you need the gun.
		I actually do not have to do that.
		And you can't.
unidentified		It's very, very hard.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you have- so, typically they say if you transport large sums of money, or if you have like an active threat against you they know about, but for the most part they'll just deny you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it takes like, what, six months or some ridiculous amount of time?
unidentified		Yeah, you have to have receipts that someone's trying to attack you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, to be fair, the Constitution does say the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Only in the instance where the individual has a good reason for having the gun and can prove it to the government.
unidentified		Otherwise, no guns.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's actually really small, you know, and people just overlook the text, but it's there.
		I love the people who are like, but the well-regulated militia part.
		I don't care.
		Shut up.
		You're wrong.
		Uh, Gray Giannico says, just a daily reminder that Trevor still sucks.
		Yeah.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Does he?
unidentified		Whoa.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's true.
unidentified		I forgot.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Definitely.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you were telling me earlier that Trevor sucks.
unidentified		Yeah, I hate that guy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know who Trevor is.
unidentified		I gotta feel bad for him.
		I don't know who Trevor is.
		I don't know who Chris is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're awesome, Trevor.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Trevor, if you're out there, you gotta super chat now so that we, you know.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we gotta set the record straight.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Let's go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright, let's see.
		Chad Eldredge says, I know you've talked about it being too hard to book some people.
		Some more bookable names you might consider.
		Ian Hutchison, nuclear engineer, fusion discussion.
		Bob Murphy, anarchist economist.
unidentified		Yes, he's cool.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Bob Murphy?
unidentified		Yeah.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Cool.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Write this down.
unidentified		Becomes highly recommended by Julie Borowski.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Very cool.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		Dan9S says, maybe I missed something, but when talking about depression, people need to distinguish between situational depression and clinical depression.
		Clinical depression doesn't just look like crying and hopelessness, it can be anxiety attacks or numbness.
		It can also be someone saying they don't feel like going out, and they're bored and tired, and their legs are sore.
		Yeah, and a lot of people don't realize that.
		Sam Good says, hey bro, I'm a veteran who has deployed.
		I'm also pseudo-liberal slash conservative.
		I see amazing from both sides of the voters on the spectrum, right or left.
		It'll flake both to turn around the world.
		It'll take both.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Heck yeah, it will.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Steph MLB says, culture's big if one wants kids.
		Easy to date, but men of value are hard to find with today's politics and weak men.
		She says, I'm Latina in med school, but also 27.
		Given the choice, I give up med for kids.
		Here is taboo.
		Why?
		Many can be doctors, but only I am able to carry on my lineage.
		Man.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Jeffrey N. Frazier says, Great show, Tim.
		I would like to see you do a segment on TimCast.com with Pierogi from Scammer Payback about the scams that are happening and what can be done to stop them.
		Oh yeah, for sure.
		That'd be cool.
		Alright, let's see.
		We'll do a couple more Super Chats here.
		Just a couple more.
		Two more.
		Sonny James says, Just goes to show you anyone who might protest the state gets shot.
		Our government is equal opportunity shooters.
		I'm already seeing the woke crowd run defense for this killing.
		Well, sometimes... I can't read that part, but I get your point.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh, spicy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep, sometimes a little too spicy for YouTube, huh?
		I just want to say to everybody who gave a shout-out to Ian for his birthday, thank you for your super chat, and happy birthday, Ian.
		Thank you, guys.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And to the people saying Tom McDonald is a guest, we absolutely would love to, but Tom's a very busy guy, so... Let's see, 2NoSpam says, Julie, I have a cool story, WRT, Julie.
		With respect to Julie?
		Is that what that means?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		With regard to, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, with regard to.
		About two years ago, I bought a signed copy of her book, Nobody Knows How to Make a Pizza, was quite amazed that she took time to write a note.
		Go girl.
		Oh, how very nice of you.
unidentified		Yeah, I could do autographed copies too.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I love it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Alright, we'll do one more.
		Bitcoin Hunter says, just had my first son.
		Congratulations.
		He is two months old and I can't believe how much my life has changed in just two months.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Very amazing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Congratulations, man.
		We're gonna do one more.
		Aura Carina says, as a single father of a little girl in elementary school, I find it weird that I'm the youngest father around and I'm in my 30s.
		Crazy times, my friends.
		Well, hey, to everybody who hung out this Friday night, thank you so much.
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		Hopefully.
		But we're very close.
		So probably in the next few days, it'll definitely happen.
		And thank you all so much for everybody who subscribed.
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		and also TimCast.com has a huge, massive library of exclusive bonus segments and episodes where we swear a lot.
		Recently I did a segment with Jack Murphy where, like, I went off.
		We were talking about whether or not you should, like, what you should do in the event of a mugging, and I was very much like, I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees.
		And if people were armed and could defend themselves, we wouldn't have these criminals in the first place, so it gets a little spicy.
		And a lot of people were commenting, so you might like it.
		Go to TimCast.com, subscribe, become a member, check it out.
		And Julie, do you want to mention anything before we go?
unidentified		Uh, sure.
		You can follow me on Twitter, Julie Borowski.
		YouTube, Julie Borowski.
		I don't know.
		Just Google my name.
		You'll find something.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You have some books?
unidentified		I do.
unidentified		I have Nobody Knows How to Make a Pizza, and I also have a new book, Peaceful Porcupine.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And these are libertarian-ish?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or how would you describe it?
unidentified		I don't like to say they're libertarianish because it sounds kind of cringe, like I'm trying to force political ideology on kids.
		I say they're educational and they teach kids about morality, especially peaceful porcupine.
		It talks about, you know, don't hurt other people, which is important, whether you're libertarian or not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because it'll jam quills into you and you'll deserve it.
		The armed porcupine.
		Peaceful, but will defend himself.
unidentified		Yes, that's exactly the point.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think Jordan Peterson talked a lot about the meek from the Bible.
		The meek shall inherit the earth.
		And meek wasn't like weak.
		It was the person with the big sword that chose not to use it.
unidentified		Ooh.
unidentified		Indeed.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I love it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Similar to the porcupine.
unidentified		Porcupines, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or, you know, the good, the millions of American gun owners who don't commit crimes with their weapons and the government comes and says, yeah, we want to take your gun away from you because some crazy guy did something.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Nah, man.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, hello, everyone.
		Thank you.
		Hey, thanks again for the birthday wishes.
		You guys, this is really, really fun.
		Ian Crossland.
		You can follow me at iancrossland.net.
		Get all my socials from there.
		And I'm happy to see you guys again next week.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Very cool.
		And again, Ian, happy birthday.
		I know this birthday was a little bit of a downer for you.
		I apologize that Russia decided to do this with Crimea today.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't blame you, Lydia.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		What a cop out.
		What a jerk.
		Anyway, I'm Sour Patch Lids on Twitter and Mines and Real Sour Patch Lids on Gabin Instagram.
		You guys can follow me there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And before we go, I will read the last Super Chat from the Philosopher.
		Taxation is theft.
		Julie is awesome.
		Thanks for having her on.
		Thank you all so much to everybody for hanging out.
		We will be back Monday, and we'll see you all then.

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