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Feb. 26, 2021 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - ACLU Demands Supreme Court Force Women To Register For Draft w/Ethan Suplee
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ethan suplee
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ian crossland
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luke rudkowski
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tim pool
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lydia smith
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tim pool
you you
you that women should be forced to sign up for the draft.
And I know a lot of people in the comments are like, wow, the ACLU actually fighting for equality?
Like, women should have to do the draft too?
And I'm kind of like, nobody should have to do the draft.
I'm not for the draft.
So I don't know how I feel about that.
I understand it's equality, but I'm kind of like, how about you just stop requiring dudes to sign up for the draft?
There is an interesting conversation in that, though, because conscription, in some aspects, well, I mean, it makes sense.
If a foreign adversary of the U.S.
literally dropped, you know, troops onto our beaches and started storming the streets and whatever, yeah, we'd have to defend ourselves.
There's a really interesting conversation around that.
And then we got some other stories, too.
This is crazy.
A D.C.
news anchor made a comment about fat people.
They shouldn't be allowed to get the vaccine before anyone else.
And he got fired because of it.
So we'll talk about that.
We'll talk about some of the other issues of the day.
We've got things around that.
And we've actually got a very famous movie star hanging out with us, Ethan Suplee.
You want to introduce yourself?
ethan suplee
Hello, I'm Ethan Suplee.
Thanks for having me, Tim.
tim pool
Just real quick, what do you do?
Who are you?
ethan suplee
I'm an actor.
I have a podcast called American Glutton.
I have a movie coming out later this year, and I've been in some movies that maybe some people have seen, and television shows.
tim pool
I think people are probably familiar with you, definitely.
And I'm wearing your hoodie.
It's a cool hoodie, I liked it.
So Ethan gave me this American Glutton hoodie, and I thought it was an anarchy hoodie.
unidentified
That's pretty cool.
ethan suplee
American glutton.
tim pool
But I'm like, I don't wear it anyway, you know?
So there you go.
So, uh, yeah, yeah, definitely.
We'll talk about some stuff.
I'm really interested to talk about Hollywood, actually, because the way COVID has changed everything.
ethan suplee
Yeah.
tim pool
Before the show, we were having a kind of interesting conversation about what this is going to mean for, like, big A-list actors when movie theaters don't really exist in the same way.
So we'll talk about that stuff.
ethan suplee
Sure.
tim pool
What's it got, Luke, hanging out?
luke rudkowski
I really like the colors of that hoodie and Those women better get ready because the United States just bombed Syria, and everyone's talking about a toy potato.
So everything's going great.
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tim pool
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luke rudkowski
It is, but it is honest.
tim pool
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Yeah, we got Ian.
ian crossland
Hey, everybody.
What's up?
Ian Crossland, you know me.
I got a NASA jacket on.
It's a little cold up here, so we threw on an awesome hoodie in this thing.
I don't work for NASA or anything.
Ethan, it's good to see you.
Ethan was in one of my favorite movies of all time, Mallrats.
I just found out.
tim pool
Yep.
Blowing my mind, dude.
ethan suplee
Do you remember who I was yet?
ian crossland
Yeah, I keep thinking about it.
I love it.
ethan suplee
Okay, good.
tim pool
It's one of the best scenes.
ian crossland
I haven't seen it in like 15 years.
tim pool
The little boy's like, it's a schooner.
And what do you say?
Like, you dumb... I'm not gonna say it.
ethan suplee
I call him a bad word.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a sailboat.
ethan suplee
I also attack Easter.
tim pool
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, yeah, the bunny.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Brutal, vicious.
ian crossland
Punch it in the face or something.
ethan suplee
Do I punch him out or something?
ian crossland
Kick it?
ethan suplee
I might kick it.
I don't actually remember.
It has been a while.
tim pool
It's kind of crazy that Michael Rooker's in that movie and then he went into the Marvel movies for Guardians of the Galaxy and it's like, man, that guy's been working forever.
You know what I mean?
ethan suplee
Yeah.
We shot that movie 26 years ago.
Wow.
ian crossland
What was it like, guerrilla shooting?
Like on the scene?
ethan suplee
Or did you get ran out of the mall?
Yeah, that they had money for, so we rented a mall in Minnesota, and we had basically the whole mall, and we would shoot at night.
Yeah, but we had the run of it.
ian crossland
It was so epic.
Mall of America is what it was.
ethan suplee
I had a scene with Stan Lee, which was pretty awesome.
tim pool
Oh, that's right!
Yeah, man, wow.
So cool.
They got to get you in the Marvel movies next.
Or the TV shows, whatever they're doing.
That'd be cool.
Oh, we also got Sour Patch.
lydia smith
Yes, I am pushing all the buttons in the corner for Ethan Suplee.
It's so super cool.
Suplee.
Excuse me.
tim pool
We all pronounce it wrong.
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It's very simple from the Hill Supreme Court asked to declare the all-male military draft unconstitutional the ACLU issued a new petition saying women should be required to register for enlistment as well They say a new petition issued by the ACLU has made it to the Supreme Court and aims to declare the historic male-only military draft unconstitutional.
Noting that the U.S.
Department of Defense lifted the ban on women serving in combat in 2013, the petition specifies that the obligation for men to register upon turning 18 years old has yet to be applied to women.
Quote, thousands of women have since served, with distinction, in combat positions across all branches of the military.
The formal petition reads, The registration requirement has no legitimate purpose and cannot withstand the exacting scrutiny that sex-based laws require.
Rooted in this argument is the 1981 case Rotsker v. Goldberg, which argued that because American men are required to register under the U.S.
law and women are not, the male-only draft is discriminatory and unconstitutional.
The Act gives U.S.
Presidents the power to require mandatory conscription of eligible adult males into the U.S.
Army, but excludes women.
Ultimately, the Court held that the Act does not violate equal protection clauses under the Fifth Amendment, and that the government is allowed to develop an army in times of national emergency.
Now, the petition asks the Supreme Court to overrule Rotsker v. Goldberg, since women are formally allowed to register for military service and in combat roles.
And just as an aside, I don't want to derail from this story, we have the Equality Act being passed by the House which would add sex to the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
So as far as I'm concerned, ladies, start lining up and registering for the Selective Service because y'all are going to be drafted.
ethan suplee
I have a question.
I didn't realize that there was still a draft.
I realized that when I was the age for the draft, I was obese and wouldn't have qualified.
I also have flat feet.
But did you guys all register for the draft?
Yes.
You did?
tim pool
Yeah.
ethan suplee
I don't remember.
luke rudkowski
Didn't you have to if you go to college?
You have to apply for selective services?
tim pool
Yeah, like when you go to the DMV, they give you forms.
It would be like, I signed up for the selective service.
unidentified
I had no idea.
tim pool
Now, they say that the all-volunteer force is more effective, and I think that's true.
Like, the data shows you get a bunch of people who don't want to be there who are scared and forced into it, you get a really ineffective fighting force.
I think that's what they learned from Vietnam.
So my bigger question with all of this is I know there's a lot of guys who are probably laughing and cheering, like, yeah, yeah, finally, because we've seen this before.
There was another attempt at making this happen, and feminists were outraged.
They were like, this is not what I wanted when I said I wanted equality.
I do not want to have to go to war and fight in combat or anything like that.
And it's like, well, that's what equality means.
But I guess there's a libertarian question in all this.
Should there be a draft?
I mean, look, like I said, there's people like guys who are like, haha, now you have to sign up for the draft.
I'm kind of like, nah, I don't know if anybody should have to do that, right?
luke rudkowski
Well, if you look at what wars we're fighting, they're not really wars promoting freedom.
They're not really wars fighting any kind of threat.
And I think Henry Kissinger, you know, he has this famous quote.
He said, quote, military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in American foreign policy.
unidentified
Wait, Guy, I swear.
What?
tim pool
Really?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, Henry Kissinger said that.
I confronted him on it, face to face, one on one.
He didn't like that question.
But now we need an official correction for Mr. Kissinger.
He needs to state specifically that military men and women are now just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy.
So we need an official correction.
I hope the mainstream media pressures Mr. Henry Kissinger to offer this.
I'm being facetious, obviously, here.
But I mean, obviously, I'm against the draft.
I mean, I think it's a ridiculous idea.
You look at the wars that have been started.
All of them are based on false pretenses.
All of them are based on benefiting the military-industrial complex that is now getting their lunch with the Biden presidency, especially with the latest attacks that happened tonight, but also even before that.
When you look at Raytheon, for an example, which, by the way, a board member is now our defense secretary of Raytheon.
That's great!
Well, what did they call it in the media when they described him?
He was a person of color, and that was great.
That was diversity.
Yeah, they talked about diversity, but not his Raytheon past.
Now, you look at what the Biden administration is doing with Raytheon.
Raytheon just got an $85 million weapons deal with Chile, a $197 million weapons deal in Egypt, $245 million weapons deal with the United States and another $1.2 billion weapons deal with U.S.
missile defense systems.
That's what Raytheon just got under a Biden presidency.
tim pool
Wait, you said missile defense systems?
luke rudkowski
Upgrading and working on the military defense system.
tim pool
But will there be women forced through conscription to be manning those?
luke rudkowski
That's the big Well, right now there was a... I remember just a few years ago there was a crisis with trying to enlist people in the military.
But now with how robotic everything is becoming, especially with the onset of things like drone warfare, the United States military doesn't need as many people.
And with the recent economic downturn, more people are volunteering.
So right now the United States does not need to use The draft but if there was a bigger conflict Let's just say with Russia which of course the United States is positioning itself with especially with tonight's actions bombing a Syrian You know a Syrian facility that's used by the Iranian-backed rebels You have to wonder that this is this is something that might play a big role in the future.
tim pool
I I wonder if one of the reasons we're seeing this, it's not the first time it's happened, in the past few years there have been attempts to get women into combat roles and to sign up for, it's not the draft specifically, it's the Selective Service, I think it's called, is that what it's called?
Selective Service.
And it's essentially the draft database that in the event they have to reinstate the draft, they got everybody's info.
But we've been we've been talking about war with China for quite a bit.
I mean, the threat from the South China Sea and the threat to Taiwan.
I'm not entirely convinced Biden's going to go against China in that capacity, but maybe the U.S.
has currently got, I think, some aircraft carriers in the South China Sea could be remnants from the Trump administration.
But we seem to be pretty close to war.
I think, uh, was it Vladimir Putin who said that, uh, we're in a period that's kind of like pre-World War II?
You know, then we're looking, we see things like that.
We see the money supply.
I don't, I don't, Ethan, have you seen this stuff with the money supply skyrocketing?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Like, just like printing money like crazy?
So I wonder if they're basically saying we need to start preparing and putting together this database in the event that we gotta go fight some people.
ian crossland
You know, I'm really anti-war and really, really dislike the draft.
I would have been in Vietnam, one of those guys that fled to Canada probably because I didn't want to go.
luke rudkowski
What's wrong with Mexico, Ian?
tim pool
You're not that old, Ian.
ian crossland
Stuffed in a tube, go crawl through tunnels with a pistol looking for dudes with AKs waiting for me.
tim pool
No, but... You sure you wouldn't have been a refrigerator repairman or something?
ian crossland
Yeah, I don't want to get inside of a refrigerator for a repairman.
Is that what you just said?
tim pool
I said... I said something like, wouldn't you have been a refrigerator repairman?
ian crossland
Yeah, it would have been something like that.
In the army, you mean.
I get it.
But then they would send those guys into the jungle.
You'd be like, I'm an engineer.
Yeah, you're an engineer on the front line.
It was terrible, terrible.
But I see a value to the draft in that if we were invaded, you've got to get people... You've got to get them armed and get them in.
And you're not waiting, hoping that they'll come to the defense of the country.
I'm like, if we get invaded, but we don't get invaded.
We never have been invaded.
unidentified
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
Geopolitically, the United States is at a very, very big advantage compared to a lot of other countries where it's located.
So we're in a very safe, safe position, as well as many gun owners that of course also add another big national defense.
And there was a meme showing all the crazy people that lived all over the United States.
And it was a meme saying, this is why the United States never gets invaded.
South Los Angeles, it was Koreans.
And then other than that, it was Vatos, and then it was gang members in Chicago.
It was Florida Man in Florida.
Hicks in Texas.
I forgot exactly all the other representation of America.
tim pool
The Chicago police can't even take over Chicago.
For real.
luke rudkowski
America will never be invaded.
Fifth generational warfare is the only way to really take over the United States, and I believe that's personally happening right now.
tim pool
Yeah, it is.
There was a really funny tweet I saw earlier where it was from I think the website was the gray zone
which is like anti-war leftist and they tweeted information war is real and Twitter added a label
this information may have been obtained through hacking and then it's like Twitter literally
proved the point that we try and call out these big military firms and the manipulation and the
propaganda.
Twitter itself is like, this is propaganda.
Ignore this.
There's nothing to see here.
So yeah, you know what?
I brought up, you know, China and potential for war.
I think you'll just see skirmishing, you know, skirmishes, some little hot, you know, back and forth, maybe like Hong Kong.
If China goes for Taiwan, it's not going to be Well, it might be. I'm not entirely sure, but I think you're
right in that, you know, Luke, we've been talking about fifth generational warfare. Are you familiar with what?
ethan suplee
No, I don't know what fifth generational warfare means.
tim pool
Basically, we're past the point where violence is effective in allowing someone to gain control of a population. And
what we're seeing from that is like with the culture war in the US, victimhood is power.
So if you victimize someone, you lose legitimacy.
So what we're seeing now, manipulation, propaganda.
Convince populations to join you through information manipulation, big tech companies, etc.
It's gonna be way more effective than, you know, physically punching somebody.
ethan suplee
Right.
luke rudkowski
And also push self-destructive tendencies and also push things that ultimately destroy a nation to destroying their youth.
And if you look at our youth, I mean, I did a video about this today, record high suicides, especially in places where there's the most strictest lockdowns.
And there's even court cases of major people arguing we need to bring back the schools because kids are going to keep killing themselves in record numbers like they already are, which is absolutely... The lockdown stuff's getting real bad.
I mean, how would you rank Americans?
I mean, I think you're our age.
Throughout the years, I think it's safe to say that things haven't been going that well for the American people.
ethan suplee
I think I'm a little older than you guys.
How old are you? 44.
tim pool
Well, you're a little bit older than Ian.
unidentified
41.
tim pool
But you're 10 years older than me.
ethan suplee
Yeah, there you go.
Thank God.
I thought you were going to say, no, we're the same age.
tim pool
I was going to be shocked.
ethan suplee
Yeah.
You know, at the end of the day, I think that all of the things that we think of as having power in America are all just ideas.
And so.
If these structures, I think that the way to dissolve them isn't through war and violence, for real, it is just to convince people.
tim pool
That's exactly what fifth generational war is.
ethan suplee
Yeah, but I think, like, if you look at how the USSR kind of dissolved, and it got really rough immediately following the dissolution of the USSR, and there was a lot of scary stuff happening over there, but people just went like, I don't want to do this anymore.
tim pool
Yeah.
It was a loss of confidence.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
I'm worried about that for here in the U.S.
You know, like, if people stop believing in the legitimacy of government or of institutions, it's not about whether or not they oppose them.
Opposition is not the opposite.
So opposition is not the opposite of confidence.
Indifference would be.
So if you've got people who are looking to the U.S.
government and they're saying, I believe in this government in that it's strong and capable and you must abide by its laws.
ethan suplee
And honest.
That's a big thing too.
tim pool
And well, if people view it as not honest and they come to oppose it, the opposition is still rooted in the idea that the government holds power and is legitimate.
But let's say there's a system that people find they're indifferent to, so they outright ignore.
That's when government actually collapses.
ethan suplee
Yeah, I agree.
luke rudkowski
Well, the thing is, there's a lot of people losing confidence in the system because of all the dishonesty.
There was a great article, I forgot who wrote it, I forgot where I read it, but it said the reason we have things like, you know, theories about, you know, government, I can't, can we even say that word?
tim pool
Oh, the C-word.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, can we even say the C-word?
ethan suplee
I don't know.
luke rudkowski
What's the C-word?
tim pool
Conspiracy.
I was trying to think of another word for it.
luke rudkowski
I threw it to you because you're great at that.
But when you look at a lot of the conspiracy theories, they're kind of rooted in a lot of the bigger government lies, and there wouldn't be as many of them if the government was just honest with us.
And let's be honest, they're not honest with us in so many instances, in so many different ways, whether it's war, whether it's health, whether it's diet, whether it's the food chain, whether it's big industries like the sugar industry.
We have a lot of problems with mainline institutions that profit off of our suffering and talking along the lines of fifth generational warfare, I think it's very fair to say that a lot of people have been convinced to make very bad decisions for themselves.
And I think that's an understatement when you look at our modern-day society and where it's heading right now.
tim pool
Well, let's play devil's advocate and say, you know, when talking about the draft and specifically, refresh me on what your point was, because I want to make sure I get it correct.
luke rudkowski
Well, the larger point is people are making really bad decisions for themselves and they're hurting themselves for the benefit of the very few that have no allegiance to the United States.
tim pool
So just like, playing devil's advocate, if we did end up collapsing and people did lose confidence, you know, Ethan, you just mentioned things got really bad post-Soviet Union, you know, the oligarchs came, isn't there a benefit to having, even if it's bad?
And again, playing devil's advocate here because I'm not a big fan of big government, but what are the benefits to having a system in place that may be oppressive but still functions?
There's safety and security.
ethan suplee
But by the way, It got bad there.
It doesn't have to get bad here.
You know, I think there's a weird thing that happens in America with the medium, with government and stuff like that.
You know, the blue and black and white and gold dress?
Do you remember this?
And then Laurel Yanni?
How people can actively experience objective reality differently.
Now I didn't, when my kids first showed me this and said, what color do you see?
And I said, well, that's clear.
I don't remember what it was.
I think I said it's a black, a white and gold dress, whatever it was.
And my kid said, no, it's these colors.
I thought you're messing with me.
This is clearly, I mean, objectively not the colors you're saying it is.
And they insisted.
And then it turns out lots of people saw it differently.
There's no room.
in political discourse or just culture for us to go, that person is experiencing this differently than I am.
ian crossland
Right.
ethan suplee
I really try to think about like people arguing in line at a Baskin Robbins over ice cream flavors.
And at the end of the day, I'm going like, what difference does it make?
Why are we allowing this to ruin our lives?
And why are we obsessing on it?
tim pool
Everybody likes a different flavor.
ian crossland
Right.
I did a tweet where I said we really need to re-engage scienceology and go deep and
do it, rip it apart and come back.
And I was talking about the science of science.
And so many people thought I said Scientology.
They were responding as if I'd said Scientology and they were angry.
And it's just like misperception.
And that's not even the blue gold thing where you're actually literally seeing the
They actually saw something different.
tim pool
I do.
I do want to bring up though, when you mentioned the blue and gold thing, one of the biggest drivers of that was people at different phones with different color schemes.
And with the Laurel and Yanny thing, people had different speakers.
So what was really happening.
ethan suplee
I could sit with my friends.
tim pool
Oh no, for sure.
ethan suplee
And listen to it.
And somebody's going, no, I hear Yanny.
tim pool
There's a really amazing thing someone did where they took both the blue and gold and the white, the white and gold and the blue and black, and they cut a piece out and they moved it left and right to show you it was the same.
ian crossland
Wow.
tim pool
Or, or, or, yeah, like, like, uh, but it was based on shadowing, like shading made, it was like, that really looks like, that's crazy how that works.
And then there's another thing that's really funny.
There's a meme where it was, I think, seven different phrases, but it was one soundbite.
And so whichever one phrase you read, you would hear.
That's really freaky.
I can't remember what it was.
I think it was like iPhone for us.
And then it was like a whole bunch of different phrases.
ethan suplee
And you hear it differently.
tim pool
If you look at the word and you read it and listen, you'll hear that.
ethan suplee
Right.
tim pool
There was another crazy experiment I saw where they had people say fa, ba, and va.
And then they would play like someone saying, but show the F sound and people would hear the F sound because they're
seeing like people don't realize how much their worldview is, is, is like not perfect.
ethan suplee
Yeah.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, I think you make a good point that a lot of what's going on politically is that like, actually, have you ever
seen this meme where there's a six on the ground or it's a nine, but there's two people on both sides looking at it
saying six or nine.
ethan suplee
Yeah.
tim pool
That's like a good example of what we're experiencing right now and it's causing people to like want to punch each other in the face.
ethan suplee
Yeah, I also get a little hung up with the idea of should.
When we think about all of this stuff, and I hear people saying, this is how it should be, I kind of go like, well, that's how you want it to be, but really, what does should mean?
You know, even when we're talking about science, science doesn't have values.
People add values to science.
So anytime somebody is saying something should be a way, I'm kind of like, Okay, maybe you and a bunch of people don't want it to be that way, or you and a bunch of people do want it to be that way.
And I think it's really interesting to listen to people who say, here's this problem that I perceive, and here's a solution that I'd like to try and enact.
But like, that's a rational conversation.
tim pool
But you know that meme where it's like the guy goes, I'm angry and he says, here's a solution.
I don't, he's like, I'm mad.
Here's a solution.
I don't want a solution.
I want to be mad and he's burning it.
ethan suplee
Yeah, that's fair too.
tim pool
You sound like a very, uh, what, what, what are the, uh, the leftists insult?
They say radical centrist.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That you're like, Hey, maybe, maybe everybody has like a different understanding of things.
No, you're either in our tribe or you're bad.
ethan suplee
Right.
Well, yeah.
I mean, look, at the end of the day, I also don't think everybody should be forced to adhere to the same structures.
So, if people want to be communists, I'm all for it.
I just don't think I should have to be forced to be a communist.
tim pool
That's why I like the sweater.
I thought it was the anarchist symbol.
But it's your podcast.
ethan suplee
Right, it's just a podcast.
tim pool
That's why I like it.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
ethan suplee
We talk about diet.
By the way, diets are safe to talk about because there's no military back here.
luke rudkowski
Unless you mess with the vegans.
The vegans, I mean, they're like a militia.
ethan suplee
But you know what?
Look, I'm happy to talk to vegans and carnivores.
And I don't do either of those things.
But at the end of the day, There is no, nobody's going to force you to do it.
So it's kind of safe.
You know what I mean?
tim pool
But, but you could get canceled.
Like, was it, uh, um, um, Adele?
She didn't get canceled, but they got really mad because she, she had lost all this weight.
And, and, and again, you know, just for everybody watching, it's like, I think, I think a core component of your podcast has to do with your, you know, health and wellness and weight loss transformation stuff.
ethan suplee
For sure.
Uh, yes.
Uh, uh, I think Adele was a hell of a lot more famous than me, so that's a tick against her for, like, she's already on more fragile footing.
Also, I'm a dude and we have to deal with that stress in much different ways than gals do.
Definitely.
I think it's really awesome.
I really like Lizzo a lot and what Lizzo talks about, but I think Adele meant something to a lot of people, so when she stepped out of it, it was crushing to them.
But I think Adele should be able to do whatever the heck Adele wants.
tim pool
Well, I mentioned this to you before the show that I knew people when I was younger that were big fans of you.
You know, you're in these movies and you were very, you know, overweight or obese.
ethan suplee
Whatever.
You can't offend me with those words.
tim pool
Well, uh, you know, just for the, you know, keep it, keep it friendly.
ethan suplee
I was 550 pounds.
So I was morbidly obese, perhaps even more abundantly.
tim pool
More abundantly obese.
I love, I love it.
Uh, that, that phrase, um, not it really just like the pointing it out anyway.
But I knew people when I was younger that were fans of yours because you represented them.
They looked to the movies and they finally saw, hey, this person's like me.
And I think that's really interesting, especially what you mentioned with Adele, because it was probably the same thing.
There are a lot of young, overweight women who see that she's famous and successful and talented, and then she sought to lose weight, probably because she wanted to be healthier and take care of herself and live longer and all of these things make people feel bad, I guess.
ethan suplee
Yeah, I've definitely had some people say I preferred you fat and I just don't care because I want to be the way I am.
I had been wanting to be the size I am now for so long that how you want me to be doesn't really matter.
And then I will say, the flip side is there are a ton of people out there who also have goals that maybe they haven't achieved, that they look at me and go like, I wasn't even necessarily that heavy.
And he did this.
Maybe it's possible for me to and that and that feels good.
ian crossland
What was it the experience like growing up?
Like, how did it?
How did you find yourself to become obese?
And then what changed?
And how did you get to where you are now?
ethan suplee
Well, interestingly enough, when we think about this in political terms and the idea of forcing people to do things they don't want to do, I was placed on diets starting at five years old.
And I never wanted to be on a diet at five.
The moment I woke up and went, I want to be on a diet, I want to lose weight, was the first time in my life that diet started working and I was 22 at that point, but I was also 550 pounds.
Also, it had nothing to do with health.
Like, that was not a metric I was using.
I, you know, sitting in this chair when I was, even today, I come in and I'm testing the chair, like, is this chair going to collapse under me?
Waking up every day with swollen, sore feet, you know, having real knee issues.
Sweating as I'm toweling off from a shower that I had cool so I wouldn't overheat.
These are the issues that I was like, I'm done doing that.
Health never entered into it and I was very unhealthy.
Once I got my footing and I started to become more healthy, I went, oh, this is really cool too.
Now I'm going to apply this metric as a goal and that's been something.
But I don't think any of it works if you're if you're trying to force somebody to do it.
So there's a real weird conversation happening right now in the world where there is one team going obesity or overweightness or whatever word is appropriate is not a metric in health and then there's another team going as a reaction to that almost you're just lazy you need to lose weight and so there's these two bizarre battles And I personally don't think either is right.
I think we live in a day where there isn't a lot of physical activity required.
Certainly we're not out hunting and gathering food.
Even the job, the workplace has gone down as far as physical abilities.
tim pool
Look at us sitting in chairs!
ethan suplee
This is your job, this is amazing!
And so, at the same time, food has become cheaper and cheaper and cheaper.
And like, of course people are going to become overweight.
This is like a perfect confluence of events to lead to that.
We're the wealthiest country of all time ever.
unidentified
we have a lot of overweight people because they're all kings. And now they close the gyms,
luke rudkowski
tell people to stay inside, and some countries even make sure that they can't walk two blocks
away from where they live. Right. So a lot of insanity is happening, especially I think
the conversation about health has been hijacked by so many different individuals, by so many
different special interests, and there's so many different opinions on there.
I think a lot of people have a hard time finding out what's right for them.
But then also a lot of people forget you're an individual.
Individually, what's right for you might not be right for someone else.
So that's another big discussion.
tim pool
I think it's really interesting.
You mentioned it's kind of like the libertarian nature of it.
Like you've got to decide for yourself.
People can't force you to do it.
You've got to figure out what works for yourself as well.
ethan suplee
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't think forcing people to do anything is right.
lydia smith
It doesn't work.
ethan suplee
I mean, yeah, I don't think so either.
ian crossland
You said moderate, when I asked you earlier, you said moderation was how you did it.
What is that exactly?
ethan suplee
You know, at the end of the day, all, almost all, you know, even if you're, even if you're not hyper focused on it, the principle behind diets is thermogenesis.
It's the way you use energy.
And so food is an energy source for your body.
I've done, you know, I'm just gonna eat 500 calories a day for two months and white knuckle my way through it.
That's extreme, right?
Taking an entire food group and demonizing it and cutting it out of my life, that's also extreme.
A few years ago I found like if I just spend some time Counting calories and figure out because I actually had no idea what my body required I would cut out carbs and Then after a while, I wouldn't lose weight anymore because I was eating too much Steaks and avocado and butter right and then I would just have to start reducing that Without thinking about it, but I'm going like if I want to lose weight I have to eat less and
And then I start losing weight again, which is kind of against the principle of the keto diet, where you're supposed to just be full from eating a bunch of fat.
But at the end of the day, the way your body consumes excess fat is by feeding it too little.
Now if you go really extreme, The vast evidence is that you're going to relapse.
Very few people go very extreme, do it very quickly, and then have that as a sustainable achievement.
tim pool
You need to set a habit.
You need to create a routine, and then turn the routine into a habit.
And the people who do crash diets and stuff, they don't.
They're forcing themselves, and then once they get to their desired goal, their habits return.
So it's really about, I think, what did they say?
It's like 21 days?
ethan suplee
It's a set of habit.
tim pool
Yeah, a set of habit.
Something like that.
ethan suplee
Yeah, and you know, the other thing is, there's just a lot of nuance in here.
I can also empathize with the idea of like, when you're ready to do it, and you wake up one day, and you go, oh my god, I can't be this weight anymore, it's hard to breathe, you know, I'm sweating all the time, my feet hurt, my back hurts.
You want it fast.
You want it, you know, as I wanted it fast.
You want to get that weight off as quick as possible.
unidentified
Yeah.
ethan suplee
It's very hard to like, take a step back and go, this is going to take a lot of time and a lot of hard work.
That's a really hard proposition to make for people.
luke rudkowski
And also rewinding a lot of the kind of establishment conditioning that's brought on to people that starts off as their children in school.
If you look at a lot of the school lunches, they are absolutely horrible for you.
If you look at that food triangle that the government recommends for you, it is absolutely horrible for you.
If you look at a lot of the fat that's being banned and not used in large supermarkets, that's because of a sugar industry banning it for you and then the larger consequences of that are not even talked about.
What do you see, though, is you see a lot of McDonald's commercials, you see Pepsi commercials telling you to get a COVID test, you see government officials telling you wear a mask, social distance, but that's it, predominantly.
tim pool
Where's the go outside?
Like, go for a walk.
It's a matter of size.
luke rudkowski
Where's the sleep?
Where's the meditating?
tim pool
You know, I always wondered why it is they put psychoactive stimulants in our sodas.
And I'm like, it really is a sweet deal for these fast food companies.
You get a double, a Big Mac with extra sauce and an extra large supersized fry or whatever.
And then you eat it and it makes you feel miserable.
So then you guzzle down a half gallon of psychoactive soda, chock full of psychoactive stimulants.
luke rudkowski
You better be careful, Tim.
The thought police are going to go after you for attacking Woka Cola now.
Be careful.
tim pool
But no, I remember when I was younger, I'd be watching someone eat this really awful food, and they would go, oh, I feel so... I can't move.
And then they would take the two-quart cup of Coke or Pepsi and then chug it and be like, now I feel good.
I'm like, yeah, caffeine is a stimulant.
You know what really blows my mind?
You guys ever see those commercials where it's like a really big fat guy and he's like eating a giant pizza with his friends and then he goes, and it's like, do you have heartburn?
Take this drug.
And I'm like, dude, stop eating the pizza.
It's like, it's, it's, it's hurting you.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
Nonstop commercials and all these other supplements take that.
I remember being in Kentucky once and seeing at a diner, this morbidly obese family.
And instead of like regular, like drinks, you know, like regular drinks, just standing on their table, they had those huge soda bottles and they had an infant baby and the infant baby was obese too.
And they were literally giving the baby the Woka Cola.
Like this.
I'm like, I lost a little bit of hope in humanity.
My hope is still there.
I'm very optimistic.
But seeing that, seeing these really large people feeding their child just all the Woka Cola.
tim pool
Hold on, hold on.
There's serious problems here.
I mean, what do you do?
You know, Michael Bloomberg wanted to ban... Didn't he try to ban large sodas?
Or did he actually do it?
In New York, he banned... He tried.
ethan suplee
I don't think it was successful.
You know, I have, I can't say that I think any food thing is bad.
I think it can be used in a way that goes against how you want it to act in your body.
But at the end of the day, I think that's up to us.
You know what I mean?
Like we, we didn't all out ban cigarettes other than San Francisco, but like they tax the heck out of them.
tim pool
They bar, you can't go into buildings anymore with cigarettes.
So they found a way, you know, make it so you can't smoke.
ethan suplee
Yeah, I mean, I guess it's because it's unhealthy to other people.
But at the end of the day, we still allow people to smoke.
You know?
tim pool
You just gotta go in the park and not stand near anybody.
ethan suplee
Right.
tim pool
And then you can have your cigarette.
Well, everyone's vaping now, too, and then they banned that.
Right, I don't think look there's a Ron Paul video We referenced the other day and it's just one of the greatest videos ever.
Did you see this from 1988?
It's just so good He's talking about the government shouldn't regulate drugs because the government can't make you a good person you have to choose and Then at the end he's talking to some guy and he goes he's like the government's not gonna make you a good person Why does how about the government puts you on a diet?
luke rudkowski
You're a little overweight and then everyone the audience is like boo boo, and I'm like what he's making a good point Well, but they also shouldn't maybe shouldn't subsidize drugs like that's sugar industry the aspartame industry and if the government's gonna get involved there's gonna be an underground mafia market of people selling large sugary drinks everywhere and prohibition doesn't work it never did work no matter what it is every time government gets involved it screws people over let's just be honest with ourselves
What we do need is personal responsibility and not the government intervening, telling you about food triangles that are absolutely wrong, not subsidizing and running with big sugar industries and other industries, not running with GMOs and Monsantos that has a revolving door within the FDA.
Maybe without government, we wouldn't have so many people that are so dependent on these chemicals.
ian crossland
It's true, but you've got to protect the kids.
We used to sell cigarettes to kids.
There used to be Joe Camel, the cartoon character, and the government had to ban those because the market wanted to get them hooked earlier.
luke rudkowski
More importantly, there was medical doctors telling you to smoke because it was good for your health.
Okay, so keep that in mind, especially when you have medical doctors now, because medical doctors could be bought and sold just like politicians could be bought and sold, and people need to remember that.
tim pool
Let's get into the government stuff as it pertains to this, because we have this story from... This is from The Advocate, and they say, Now, I wonder if they have the actual tweet.
are suspended over fat-shaming vaccine tweet.
Blake McCoy tweeted that he was annoyed obese people were getting access to vaccines.
Now I wonder if they have the actual tweet.
He said, let's see, okay, let me read the story and we'll try and get to the, he says,
I'm annoyed obese people of all ages get priority access before all essential workers.
McCoy, who works for WTTG, a local Fox affiliate, tweeted Tuesday, When most stayed home, we went to work every day last March, April, May, and every day since, putting ourselves and loved ones at risk.
Vaccinate all essential workers, then obese.
This is a really interesting point, because when we talk about universal healthcare, I actually, deeply and emotionally, and I understand that's not logically, love the idea of universal healthcare.
Like, just think, you know, look, I know so many progressives that are like, we have to do this, why don't we?
And I'm like, I feel you, man.
I feel this.
Wouldn't it be great if we lived in this wonderful world where everybody was just cured of all illness, and we had these robots come, like in Elysium, and they have these things you lay in and it cures your cancer?
I want it, I love it.
But we have very serious issues to contend with, the allocation of resources.
And in this capacity, was this guy wrong?
First of all, I mean, it's an opinion.
He's annoyed.
OK, fine.
But real quick, he's talking about there are people who live certain lifestyles.
that many would consider to be irresponsible, and now they're going to get priority access
to vaccinations before essential workers? The people who are stocking our shelves and putting
unidentified
themselves at risk? I mean, he's got a good point, doesn't he? I think that the argument that he's
ethan suplee
relying on, though, is this faction. I don't know what they're called. I think it's the...
unidentified
there is a version... Healthy at every size?
ethan suplee
Yeah, and they really are advocating that obesity, they don't even like that word, but obesity is not a metric of health.
So I think in that sense he probably felt very safe saying that.
unidentified
Right.
ethan suplee
Because if it's not a metric of health, that's why prioritize.
Now, we also know that the science says that it's a major component in covid deaths.
It's a huge one of the bigger comorbidities is being obese.
Right.
And age.
And those are kind of like the magical triangle of you're in real trouble if you if you get covid with these things.
But in his defense, I believe he might be relying on this argument that Cosmo just had a cover with a hefty gal that said this is healthy.
This is becoming more of a mainstream idea.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's literally a woman who is, uh, we have it right here.
Cosmopolitan.
This is healthy.
11 women on why wellness doesn't have to be one size fits all.
She's, I'm, I'm, I'm fairly certain she's morbidly obese.
ethan suplee
Well, here's the thing.
I look at that and I, I have so many reactions.
Number one, I was overweight.
So I know anytime something like that happens.
You're going to have a ton of people going, she's fat, she's lazy, and this makes me feel like, ugh, that's not fun, right?
As a person who spent most of their life overweight, that's not a fun conversation that's going to be brought up over and over and over again, which this was when it came out.
The other thing is, that gal might be healthy.
As a person.
However, I understand this is marketing.
If you had a picture of a cowboy with a cigarette and it said, this is healthy, we would all go, they're saying the cigarette is healthy.
So that is clearly saying being overweight is not a metric of health.
Scientifically, that's not sound.
Now, however we want to value that, I don't care.
If you give a shit about this thing, or you don't, it doesn't matter to me.
I don't think that health is the be-all end-all of, like, everybody should be healthy.
Not necessary, in my view.
tim pool
Well, that's one of the biggest hurdles to universal healthcare.
You know, and Ian brings this up quite a bit, because I should consider this more often, but...
If we're going to say we're going to be allocating a trillion dollars in a certain amount of time period to fund healthcare, and then you have a lot of people who are morbidly obese, eating too much, not exercising, and riding around on rascals, that's going to strain the healthcare system.
It is a metric of health.
It does contribute.
And so everyone else has to then pay for that.
So you'll hear a lot of people say, listen, I'd love to pay more taxes to provide for better healthcare for everybody, but does that mean I'm going to be paying for people and incentivizing bad behavior?
ethan suplee
Well, in that scenario, would people who smoked be relegated to a lesser tier of health care?
tim pool
I think that's where things get scary, because people say, you know, you create second-class citizens.
Now, I think more worryingly would be if you adopted Bernie Sanders' plan, which is to abolish private health insurance.
I'm not for that.
I think we need, like, a base-level care.
A lot of people say we have it, but no, there's medical bankruptcy.
We need a base-level care, and then we need supplemental private insurance.
But I think a lot of people would argue you can't have universal health care and then tell people they're not allowed to have access to it.
But I do think it's a good argument.
You smoke cigarettes?
Okay, well then you're gonna get, you know, you're gonna pay a premium or something, maybe.
The challenge is, how many things will we add to the list of detriments in your plan?
So let's say we tell everybody, you're gonna pay a 3% tax, you know, per year or whatever.
To cover universal healthcare, it'll probably be way more than that, to be honest.
But let's say it's 3%.
Now, if you smoke cigarettes, it's 5%.
If you're obese, it's 5%.
If you smoke cigarettes AND you're obese, it's 7%.
You gotta pay more and more and more of your income to cover those costs.
Then, you know, what else do we add to the list?
Do you drive fast cars?
Do you like jumping off buildings?
And then you'll find there are fit people who are like, dude, just because I like riding my bike, now I'm at risk, and...
Then you're just talking about taking the private insurance that already does this and turning it into a government institution and getting rid of competition, which in the end doesn't make sense.
luke rudkowski
And destroying everything and making it worse for everybody by making a DMV-like system.
I remember a few years ago hearing a story about a teachers union planning to put teachers
on Fitbits and these like health watches.
And they had to have a number of steps per day and to have a number of physical activities
per day if they wanted their medical insurance.
And if they didn't, they wouldn't get medical insurance, a part of the larger teachers union.
So I remember hearing stories about that.
And that's more likely what's going to happen with the larger kind of technocratic overlords
that are becoming our rulers of our daily lives.
And you're going to have to probably tell the gospel of Dr. Fauci.
You're going to have to do five Hail Marys to how beautiful and amazing a government is.
Then you're going to have to do probably a mile walking, doing hard labor in some of the gulags, and then you'll get free health insurance.
So my prediction for the future is that, personally.
tim pool
Well this is, I googled it, CS Monitor says, this was back in 2018, a proposed, uh oh, it's telling me, let me see if I can refresh it, there we go.
A proposed change to West Virginia's public worker health plan would have asked teachers to download a mobile fitness app called Go365 and earn points on it using a Fitbit or other fitness tracker designed to monitor the user's steps taken, heart rate, other metrics.
Those who declined or who complied but failed to earn enough points would face a penalty of $500 each year.
Does that make sense?
lydia smith
Yeah, because they did this at my workplace.
So I worked at a hospital and they were able to offer us health insurance at a discounted rate.
You would go in and they would take your measurements and if you were within the parameters for cholesterol, for weight, for blood pressure, for all these different things, They would give you a discount.
So it was subsidized through them and then it was even less expensive if you were healthy enough.
If you were over, they would help you find a way to solve your problem.
They would help you lose weight.
They would help you get your cholesterol under control.
And if you weren't able to do that, you would just pay more for health insurance.
luke rudkowski
And now combine that with the Elon Musk brain chip, and we're gonna be cyborgs that are gonna be ruled by the technocrats.
tim pool
You know that's how the Borg started in Star Trek, right?
Everybody knows the Borg.
You know the Borg, right?
They're the robot people who are like, resistance is futile, you will be assimilated in Star Trek.
Data wasn't to board. No, no, no, he was an Android. And so the board character in Star Trek is basically, it's this
big cube, they have cube ships that fly around. And they enter,
they'll, they'll see like other, you know, humanoid aliens, and
then say, your technology and culture will be assimilated into
the board collective. And they're all a hive mind of like non individual. The story, the backstory is I understand it,
I could be not a good enough Trekkie on this one is that they
were a regular human like species. And they kept implementing medical technology to improve their well being
and linking themselves and networking until eventually it
formed a hive mind and they became this zombie like collective that consumes people.
So, you might think it's silly when Luke brings up the Elon Musk brain chip stuff, but they very well could do in the future say, listen, If you want access to the healthcare, we need to be able to track your health.
You need to get the Neuralink.
You need to get the implant.
ian crossland
I mean, you could argue that us being so wired in Twitter is like the zombie hive mind already.
tim pool
Oh, definitely.
ian crossland
Like, tier one, you know?
tim pool
And we're resistors.
Like, we're resisting, you know, whatever faction.
It isn't necessarily right-wing or whatever.
Those who resist the mainstream are those, like, pushing back against the hive mind culture.
Those who just follow along, do what the media says, don't question, versus those who do.
Sure.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
Well, already we live in a society where insurance companies data mine social media posts in order to deny people coverage on whether it's health or real estate or even cars.
So there's already elements of this that are extremely creepy, especially when you look into the metadata that Facebook has on you, that Twitter has on you, that Google has on you, that is absolutely frightening.
And when you calculate society to such a controlled level, it is bound to become dystopian and out of control and something that there's Hollywood movies made about.
But when it's happening in real life, people are going to be like, oh, this is good for you.
tim pool
Ethan, did you know that Facebook knows when you poop?
ethan suplee
I don't have Facebook.
tim pool
You do have Facebook, yes.
ethan suplee
And it still knows?
tim pool
You do have Facebook whether you signed up or not.
And it does know.
luke rudkowski
If you're my friend and I have your number in my phone, Facebook has your contact, has your information, has you databased in their system.
tim pool
It's called a shadow profile.
ethan suplee
That's not fun.
tim pool
So here's what ends up happening, right?
So your mom has you, well, probably listed in her phone as your name.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But you might have her in your phone as mom or, you know, mother or whatever.
Then you've got a significant other or a friend.
Your sister has you in as maybe just, you know, Ethan, or maybe she puts like Ethan bro or Ethan brother or something like that.
When they sign up for Facebook, Facebook says, would you like to help?
You know, we can help you find your friends.
And they go, you got it.
Now they have your mom's information, your sister's information, your brother, your kids, your grandparents, your cousins, all of these other people, your best friend who has your name in his phone book.
And that's just off the phone alone.
There's other ways they collect your data.
Through going to websites that have the Facebook login.
You'll go to a website and they'll say, log in through Facebook.
Facebook has an app that's tracking your data.
So the interesting thing is, They'll take your phone, your phone number, when you log into Messenger, not you specifically, but someone, and they'll find a phone number that says Mom.
They'll then find that someone else has that phone number listed as Janet.
They'll then have that phone number listed by someone else as Secretary Assistant.
And now they know, you know, Ethan's mom is Janet.
She's a secretary assistant or whatever.
And then we can look at the area code so we know where the phone is from.
We can track its location.
These people all interact with this person.
It's happening in this place.
Even if you don't sign up for Facebook, They collect all that data from other people about you and you never consented to that.
ethan suplee
Right.
tim pool
So I don't know if they know when you poop, but if you've got Facebook on your phone, they know when you poop.
ethan suplee
Right.
That's disturbing.
ian crossland
What are your social medias that you use?
ethan suplee
I use Instagram, and then I always click the buttons to post on Twitter, but I don't really use Twitter.
ian crossland
Instagram's owned by Facebook.
ethan suplee
Right.
tim pool
So you have Facebook.
They know when you poop.
ethan suplee
Yeah.
tim pool
I use that example because it's the silliest, but still a violation of people's privacy.
Right.
And you gotta understand, they know the other things you're doing.
You know, private things at home, in the bedroom, they probably know.
The craziest thing is, you might not realize this, but there's little things you do that you don't understand correlates with certain behaviors.
So you might go on your phone and look up, you know, 3D illusion sailboat, And they know that people who do that actually correlate with people who like eating pepperoni pizza.
And you have no idea how one day you get an advertisement that says, extra large pepperoni, and you're like, how did they know I wanted that?
Well, it's because you did a Google search for a 3D illusion sailboat.
And there's a weird correlation.
There used to be this thing on the website.
On the website.
There used to be this thing on the internet.
I can't remember what it was called, but it was in the late 90s, early 2000s.
And they had a series of tests.
What they did was, they asked men and women random questions.
And then they found a pattern in the answers women would give and the answers men would give.
So one of them was, choose one of the objects below.
And it would be like a roller skate, a green circle, a picture of a surfboard, and a picture of a steamboat.
And for some reason, men would choose one and women would choose something else.
And then what they do is after 10,000 people did the test, they find 70% of women would choose this one and 70% of men would choose this one.
And we have no idea why, but with that data, they could then determine whether you are a man or a woman.
So it's really crazy how we don't understand, you know, deep down these differences.
But with that, they can track everything you do.
They know more about you than you probably know about yourself.
ethan suplee
Yeah.
I mean, this is a real good argument to get rid of my phone.
tim pool
I do have a hammer if you'd like to borrow it.
luke rudkowski
We are close to the woods.
We could just give up on society and start a new civilization.
tim pool
We're basically in the woods, man.
The mountains and the woods and all that stuff.
I mean, but, you know, honestly, With everything that's been going on, it's one of the reasons why I decided to get away from these cities and move out to the middle of nowhere.
I tweeted about this earlier.
We have this, we have this story.
Let's just go for it.
Here we go, everybody.
The Pod People.
The New York Post says, high school band uses individual tents to keep practicing during pandemic.
It's a bunch of students standing in... These are, I think, are like... These are not tents.
They're something else.
They're calling them tents, but they're like... Personalized garbages.
luke rudkowski
Garbage bags.
tim pool
Well, they're upright... Fabric.
lydia smith
They are fabric.
tim pool
You ever get one of those, like, laundry hampers?
Made of wire and it, like, pops into place?
Imagine that, but big.
And you're standing in it.
ethan suplee
How does the guy playing the trombone do this?
lydia smith
Uncomfortably.
tim pool
I saw a picture of it.
lydia smith
He's like wedged in there.
tim pool
This is crazy to me, that people are doing this stuff.
And it was funny because, as I mention this often, I learned from the best, Michael Malice, on how to properly tweet.
You tweet in ways where you leave it ambiguous enough to where it can be interpretable, but you still express your either disdain or support.
And I said, if people are doing this, you know, this is, you're insane.
But, you know what, at this point, I don't care what you do, do whatever you want.
I'm gonna go over there in the middle of the woods, and I'm gonna, you know, get a little, I got a bow and arrow.
We're getting chickens?
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
I kept saying this, you know what, I'm gonna go buy chickens.
I tweeted, and then I bought some chicken coops, you know, we'll get some chickens.
And I look at the stuff, it was funny when I had a bunch of people say like, you're so dumb, Tim, do you think the students should spit on each other?
And I'm like, they should not go to school.
If it's seriously that bad, don't put them in this ridiculous, this is aw, this is so ridiculous.
ethan suplee
I gotta say, I hear this and I think, God, thank God some kids get to go to school.
luke rudkowski
Right.
ethan suplee
Because we don't have school in California right now.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
But I understand that too.
But it's also, you don't need to do this.
You're spitting into a device and you're standing far away from someone else.
This makes no sense.
luke rudkowski
Can we pull up the picture of the kid with the trombone?
tim pool
Yeah, we got it up earlier.
luke rudkowski
Because he is extremely uncomfortable.
It's amazing.
And he's also a bigger guy.
But imagine paying the state to treat your children like this.
This is absolutely absurd and we wonder why kids have a mental health crisis.
This is a part of the reason.
Wired actually had a very good article today that I was reading and it's titled, It's ridiculous to treat school children like COVID hot zones and they pretty much came to the conclusion that it's not and that this is all pandemic theater and I absolutely agreed with them because there's a lot of preliminary science and statistics and reports showing how there's absolutely very little threat of COVID in schools and children transmit the virus very differently than adults do.
tim pool
This is from last year, though.
This is from last May.
Yeah, but still, it's... But it has been true that children don't spread.
I mean, let's be real.
What's the survival rate for people from the ages of, like, 11 to 20 or whatever is like 99.999%?
Yes, something like that.
And I guess the argument is, but they'll spread it to grandma, and it's always just like, well then, you know, keep grandma safe.
lydia smith
Isolate grandma.
tim pool
Isolate, use sanitizer.
And why, you know, I read this really interesting blog post, I can't remember, it was a while ago.
And it was from an older person who said, I don't understand why you're asking the younger generation to sacrifice their lives for the older generation.
The older generation typically sacrifice their lives for the next generation.
Someone who's in their 80s.
Do you guys remember what happened with Fukushima?
The nuclear plant.
Tsunami hits it.
Radioactive waste.
And then the elderly volunteered to go into the plant to try and stop the leak and solve the problem because they were like, well, we're going to die soon anyway.
We will sacrifice ourselves for the youth.
I actually know somebody, Luke and I, knew somebody who was older and lost her life providing tours to journalists in the media tub to get the word out and explain what was going on in this area.
She ended up getting cancer.
And so, with the utmost respect, she was an amazing individual.
The older generation willing to risk their lives to help the next generation survive.
This to me is absolutely insane.
Making the kids sacrifice their education, their well-being, their upbringing, their food, their nurturing for the older generation.
Look, I don't want anyone to die.
And I think ultimately it's the choice of the older generation.
I want to keep them safe and protected.
I don't want to force anybody to sacrifice anything.
I just think it's interesting that we've decided as a society that it's better to sacrifice the kids' well-being for, you know, a 99 point... I believe for the people above 70, it's a 99.5% survival rate.
No, no, I'm sorry, 97.5% survival rate.
I just think there's some kind of imbalance there.
Maybe we need to address the harder questions about, you know, how we deal with this.
Maybe we need to make sure that the elderly are protected.
I think maybe Andrew Cuomo needed a lesson in that regard that he never got.
Not just him, but these other governors as well.
I don't know, man.
I just, I think these kids, you know, when you look at the masks, you look at the schools, they're kids who are now spending a large portion of their lives, over a year, not seeing strangers' faces.
Not seeing expressions.
Not seeing mouths move.
When you look in a person's face, you know, people can tell when someone's faking a smile because a real smile, your eyes actually, you know, smile as well.
You smile with your eyes.
And even when someone's wearing a mask, you can see when they're smiling the way their eyes move.
But what about a kid who doesn't know and hasn't had the chance to develop those social understanding?
They're going to be socially stunted.
I mean, the most important formative years and we're damaging these kids over the stuff, stuffing them in these tents to play music.
You know what, man?
If it were me, I wouldn't even go to these schools.
When I was 14, I went to high school for about two months, and then I just one day was walking to school, stopped, turned around, and went home, and that was it.
ethan suplee
Do you kind of want to hear what it sounds like when they're playing in the tents, though?
unidentified
Yes, I do!
luke rudkowski
I wish there was video of this.
But you bring up an important point.
First of all, that Fukushima trip was insane.
I don't know why I went with you, but we did.
tim pool
Second of all, it's... Hopefully we don't get thyroid cancer.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
Yeah, so that gives me a little bit of anxiety as well.
Thanks, Tim.
Thanks for reminding me, but still, I try not to think about that.
But when we talk about these school children, you know, a lot of them who do get the chance to go back, they're forced to social distance, they're forced to mask, but they're also, in some schools, forced to wear tracking beacons that go off if they get too close to other students.
And they get in trouble and they get punished by standing or walking too close to other people.
So that's the level of absurdity.
Imagine going to a school and your developmental years are authoritarians screaming at you not to be close to another human being or in some instances like in Buffalo telling you that all white people are racist.
You know just like the story that we covered yesterday.
That's why again I'm a big proponent of homeschooling.
Homeschooling networks are something that people should look into.
I know it's very difficult for people to raise children independently but there's networks out there that let you do this In a way that's very cost effective, that saves you a lot of time, and also lets you be a part of a community that teaches your children the values that you believe in personally, rather than, of course, having a government come in there and scare the other crap out of your children.
tim pool
I think everybody here seems to be fairly on the not-big-fans-of-government scale, I suppose.
I don't want to say anarchist.
Luke is definitely the resident... When you say government, I just don't feel good.
luke rudkowski
I just don't.
ian crossland
I just don't like stupidity.
Like, they found COVID in an ice cream factory in China.
There was news that, I don't know, thousands of ice cream tested positive for COVID, that it was living in the fat cells.
And you're saying that the greatest comorbidity is obesity, where there's a lot of fat cells.
That they're obsessed with the air and transmitting it through the air when there's evidence that it's in the food is completely driving me insane.
tim pool
You have to breathe it in though, right?
ian crossland
No, you don't have to breathe.
You can eat it too.
tim pool
You can get COVID from eating it.
ian crossland
Apparently.
That's what was happening with this.
Why they were recalling all this ice cream.
tim pool
Weird.
ethan suplee
Well... I have not heard that.
ian crossland
Yeah.
Which is odd.
You would think that maybe the media would be like, red alert.
tim pool
No, but Ian's right, because in China they do the butt swabs.
It's in your digestive tract.
You heard about that, right?
luke rudkowski
There's reports of that.
unidentified
I did.
ethan suplee
I didn't read a proper report.
I saw a meme.
tim pool
You probably don't want to.
You know, but like the joke I made was, shut up and put on your mask, otherwise the butt swabs are next.
luke rudkowski
There's some preliminary reports that U.S.
diplomats were forced to get those swabs up there.
You know what?
I haven't seen it confirmed.
I haven't seen it confirmed, but I'm seeing some reports right now.
tim pool
You said you know what?
Are you saying butt or hoo-hoo?
luke rudkowski
No, no, no.
They're buttoxes.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, there you know, so so there's reports of US diplomats being forced to do this haven't been confirmed yet.
So we're looking up.
I'm trying to verify this as we're speaking right now.
tim pool
Americans being forced to do it.
I wouldn't be surprised.
luke rudkowski
The Gateway Pundit reported on it now.
ian crossland
How are you?
luke rudkowski
I'm checking out the sources.
ian crossland
How are you handling family life through COVID?
You got kids you said earlier?
ethan suplee
I have kids.
In the beginning, we didn't know what was happening, and it was real scary, and we didn't leave my house.
I have two kids in college on the East Coast.
They came home, and we just kind of hunkered down, and then we figured out how to live.
I think, as a person who Doesn't do well with the imposition of somebody else's rules I also look around and recognize that there have always been rules and
The happiest I ever feel is when I'm just trying to succeed despite them, if that makes sense?
Everything's not the way I want it to be, but it's kind of just like a new game to navigate.
tim pool
I think that's one of the smartest ways to look at it, too.
One of the ways I've always treated it is, I'm not super concerned.
I'm definitely concerned when we see the rise of authoritarianism.
I know I can survive it.
I know that, you know, I'm clever enough to find my way through the new rules to make things work and all that stuff.
I do worry about other people.
I also worry about the principles of the matter.
You know, people have a right.
People have rights to be free, to speak their minds.
And so there are definitely problems in that regard.
We have to have like a baseline of when we go too far to not allow something like that.
You know what I mean?
ethan suplee
Yeah, no, totally.
I don't know.
I think the way I try to think about it is The way I want it to be, it's not always going to be the way I want it to be.
It's never been exactly the way I want it to be, but that's fine.
I try to give people the benefit of the doubt and go, like, I believe people are basically good and that the intention is safety.
You know, maybe not for Raytheon.
I don't know.
I don't know if that's their intention.
tim pool
It's kind of the opposite.
ethan suplee
For the most part, I think you have, but I think you could look back through history and pick any of the things we call atrocities that are atrocities and go, somebody had in the beginning the intention to keep some group of people safe.
tim pool
We'll look at, uh, what was it?
TNT?
Dynamite?
Those are different, I think.
But, uh, Alfred Nobel, right?
He invented it.
And what happened was, I could be messing this story up.
I guess the intention was to help mining.
You basically, instead of having people get trapped, and you put the bombs there, and you walk away, and then kaboom, and then there you go!
It's been done.
And then people were using it as a weapon.
And so one day, some newspaper accidentally published his obituary while he was still alive and they called him the Merchant of Death.
And so he saw that and was like, is that my legacy?
So then Nobel Prize was created because he wanted to do something better.
Because he didn't want to be really, you know, awful.
ethan suplee
Nobel Prize is quite a swan song.
tim pool
Yeah.
But it's like...
You know, whatever your intention is for your creation, it can go in a wrong direction.
ethan suplee
Right.
No, totally.
I think.
But I think about that, too, like the things that I would be most critical of with government.
I try to give them the benefit of the doubt and go, somebody is is has a concern and they're trying.
You know, I don't know that that's always true.
unidentified
Right.
ethan suplee
It's hard to say that.
But even like, you know, our economy Crashes and burns if we don't enforce the petrodollar.
tim pool
Right, right, right, right.
A lot of people don't understand this.
This is a really good point, because people are talking big right now about Joe Biden bombing Syria.
It's big news.
We did talk about it a little bit.
And I tell people, you realize that when the U.S.
is going to war in Middle Eastern countries, you'll hear a lot of left-wing activists say, Americans just want to blow up kids and stuff like that.
I'll joke and say something like that, like, oh, who else is going to do it?
America loves doing it.
The reality is these special interests want money and resources.
They want to build the Qatar Turkey pipeline to deliver cheap gas into Europe to dominate the market, make money, but also offset the prices for the people who live there.
It's for them.
It's like, hey, it's a win-win.
We get rich.
They're not doing it because they're mustache-twirling villains who are like, nyahaha, let's blow up a country!
They're saying, I want something that's going to benefit my team.
And they're willing to do horrifying things to do it.
And I look at that and I'm like, I am not interested in funding you blowing up and destroying a country so you can get cheap gas into Europe, man.
I'm not in favor of that.
ethan suplee
Yeah.
Listen, morally, I'm not in favor of it either.
But when we think about stuff like health care, and you're a proponent for universal health care, that's not possible.
tim pool
Idealistically, I am, but... Right.
ethan suplee
Not possible if we get rid of... If we say, hey, we're pulling out of the Middle East, right?
Our economy crumbles.
It implodes.
It's done.
So all of these plans that are being argued about in America are kind of like, you know, none of it survives without those wars.
tim pool
Well, in terms of getting the oil, you know, in a lot of these countries, but we're also producing, what, poppy and opium in Afghanistan?
So it's about control and a lot of things.
I'm not entirely convinced, though.
I think one of the big arguments we saw through the Trump years was, how about we focus on energy development in this country?
That way we're not reliant on that.
And we became energy independent, so we didn't need those wars anymore.
And then we got the Abraham Accords.
These are things that I think are good.
And before AOC came out with it, I was a huge proponent of the Green New Deal.
I made a couple different segments where I was like, I like this.
You know why?
Before they actually put the bill out, it was like, would you like to invest government resources and taxpayer dollars into advancing green technologies to make the United States more environmentally friendly and energy independent?
And I was like, that sounds like the coolest thing ever.
And then they actually released the Green New Deal and it's like, would you like social equity to give, you know, women of color access to college and healthcare?
And I'm like, look, I appreciate the attempt to help people.
But please don't use my ideals for environmentalism to push your critical race theory.
Because I am not a fan of that.
And the Green New Deal became about changing the economy and not about developing this technology.
So it was like a slap in the face to people who actually thought we got a good thing going, and then the people who are supposed to be proponents of this environmental technology.
Like, seriously, the second page of the bill was all critical race theory, social justice, had nothing to do with the environment.
We're going to provide college and healthcare, and I'm like, wait, wait, wait, what?
I thought we were gonna build a fusion reactor!
Reach ignition, man!
And then we're gonna have flying cars!
ethan suplee
Is there anybody trying to do that?
tim pool
They're doing fusion.
There's a lot of people working on it.
ian crossland
JPL's working on it.
tim pool
Yeah, but we've not- my understanding is we haven't reached the ignition phase.
Is that what it is?
ian crossland
Where- I think not.
tim pool
Where the fusion happens and then the reaction outputs more energy that's put in.
So like, you know, ignition like a fire.
luke rudkowski
Well, another thing to really kind of consider here is that the U.S.
dollar is going to collapse inevitably, especially with its money printing, especially with its money supply.
And there's some people arguing that if we end the wars in the Middle East and this reckless spending, that the debt wouldn't be as high and we would postpone this inevitable collapse because we are already indebted to such a way where it's impossible to pay back.
And this is something that of course is going to fall in on itself eventually.
ethan suplee
Okay, but I have a question.
We're able to rack up so much debt because the trading of oil is predominantly done with U.S.
dollars around the world.
tim pool
Yes.
ethan suplee
So that offsets our ability to incur debt.
tim pool
Yep.
ethan suplee
If we pull out, we can incur no more debt.
tim pool
Right.
ethan suplee
And all the debt that we've incurred collapses on us.
So it's not even necessarily about getting the oil.
It's just about saying you must use dollars.
luke rudkowski
This is a system put in by Henry Kissinger when, of course, he went over to Saudi Arabia.
And this is the larger deal that they have now.
But we saw Trump kind of throw a wrench into it a little bit.
One, he was brutally honest.
He was like, yeah, we're in Syria.
We're stealing their oil.
Yes, we're giving Saudi Arabia the weapons because we want money.
They pay us a good deal.
But also, he also had a big priority on energy, where America became the number one energy producer in the world when Donald Trump was in power.
So yes, it's pretty much run through the military-industrial complex.
But when you look at the larger kind of foreign policy mishaps, not just the chaos, but the money spent, They don't serve any purpose and in the long run, in my opinion, they're going to be hurting the United States because they could enforce the trading of oil on the dollar in many different ways, but entangling ourselves in Afghanistan and spending so much money there recklessly and just wasting it away is not going to ensure that.
tim pool
But, but, Ethan hit the nail on the head.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, of course.
tim pool
We can rack up as much debt as we want so long as we force everyone to buy oil with our dollars.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So, so I have this image.
ethan suplee
But that's kind of, like, I want to say, no war.
Morally, I go, this war doesn't make sense to me.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
ethan suplee
Morally.
But I recognize at the same time what happens here if we're not doing that.
tim pool
This is a really good point, man.
I'd have no problem living in the woods.
You know, there's this joke, I will not live in the pod, I will not eat the bugs.
And I'm like, well, hold on.
I'll live in the pod and I'll eat the bugs.
You know why?
Because my pod is going to be up in a tree right next to a nice little river where I'll go fishing and periodically eat bugs.
I got no problem if I had to live in the wilderness and learn to survive and actually work hard to survive.
I actually respect that, and I would enjoy it.
I love being out and walking through the woods, and I love that feeling of accomplishment in these things.
ian crossland
It's cool until you cut yourself.
tim pool
Sure, we'll have to learn how to make alcohol and all that stuff.
But here's the point.
It's really easy to say, you know what?
Fine.
No war.
Let the petro-dollar fail.
And then so what?
What's the worst that's gonna happen?
Americans are gonna have to learn to survive again?
That's not the worst that'll happen.
No, no, no, no, no.
The worst that'll happen is that China will take over.
And then, within a matter of time, you, living in the woods, thinking you're minding your own business, will eventually be under a global authority of Chinese rule.
ian crossland
I'm thinking that the U.S.
dollar will collapse and that the Bitcoin will become the new currency of the United States, and there'll be a whole uprising of a wealth class that were like 20-year-olds, you know, five years ago.
tim pool
No, I mean, we're in the meme economy already now.
ian crossland
14-year-olds in 2010.
ethan suplee
Can we talk about this, though?
Because I have a question.
92 or 4% of all currency on Earth is digital.
tim pool
Yeah.
ethan suplee
Did you guys read that the the Fed had a glitch?
Yeah.
Was it yesterday?
And $3 trillion didn't get moved around correctly?
unidentified
Yeah.
ethan suplee
So how how is it that we don't wind up with some kind of blockchain currency?
tim pool
Well, they're working on FedCoin.
ethan suplee
Okay.
unidentified
Who?
ethan suplee
The government?
tim pool
Yeah, the Federal Reserve, I believe, is going to make a crypto.
You know, I had this question.
You know, you bring this up.
It's interesting.
I read this story the other day.
FedGlitch shuts down wire transfers, direct deposits, and other services.
It was an operational error.
And I started laughing.
I'm like, is it collapsing?
Like, is this the end?
ethan suplee
They forgot their phrase key.
tim pool
Yeah.
But here's the thing.
I asked, like, how does your bank know you have money?
When I go to the bank, when I go online and use a credit card, when I spend money from my bank, there's no actual money being transferred anywhere.
Someone just writes a number down in a book, and then someone writes a different number down in a different book.
There's never really any currency.
It's the interesting thing about all this is that cryptocurrency is actually a cryptographic code that can't be stolen.
I mean, if you can break the cryptography, you can totally unwind the network, the blockchain, but...
The idea is, because it's an encryption, you have your private keys, there's a public key, and they can't replicate what you have without the private information.
It's remarkable technology.
With banks, they just take your account and they write, he has money, and that's it.
ian crossland
And the Federal Reserve can go offline, which we saw yesterday, which is absolutely insane.
If we have a central node where everything goes, all the money, and if it goes down, the entire industry is... It's wild.
luke rudkowski
It's a fiat system with no market cap and only backed by the military-industrial complex.
But again, back to the other point here, we don't need to make blunders.
We don't need to make mistakes that waste money in order to push the dollar on the world stage.
There's other ways to do it.
China, what they're doing is kind of a different way with their Belt and Road Initiative.
Diplomacy, trade, investment, where essentially they're in proxy becoming new colonizers, as they were described to me in Africa, with them buying up all the natural resources, all the national property.
And China also is building their own cryptocurrency, which they're going to be using as a global currency.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Think about that.
You were making the point earlier that the petrodollar is paramount, but what happens when the Fed collapses?
I mean, yesterday was nuts.
Like, it just stopped working.
What happens when China launches a crypto, or they heavily invest in Bitcoin, gain access to the most powerful and dominant cryptocurrency, the petrodollar will be meaningless.
ethan suplee
Yeah, I also worry about the U.S.
trying to figure this out, simply because when you see them roll out big, like, California alone had $50 billion worth of fraud on the loans.
tim pool
That's right.
PPP or whatever.
ethan suplee
PPP loans, whatever it was.
$50 billion just for California.
I just, I don't mean to be so hard on the government.
You know, unfortunately, the thing they do best is war.
They don't seem to have these big programs down that they can roll out.
Like, the healthcare website was a disaster.
tim pool
It's crazy.
ethan suplee
You know, there were all these glitches with the payments and stuff.
So I do worry that if they try to do some kind of a blockchain currency, that I don't think it'll be the best one.
tim pool
Right.
luke rudkowski
To add to your point, there's this famous meme and it says, under anarchy, warlords would take over.
And it's a photo of all the presidents sitting together of the United States.
So just to add to that point.
But yeah, I mean, the government is largely inefficient, bureaucratic, bloated and can't get simple things done.
They can't even mail you a check For, like, when Donald Trump did it, for how much was it?
Was it $2,000?
tim pool
No, the first one I think was a grand, wasn't it?
luke rudkowski
I forgot exactly how much, but the government couldn't even effectively send everyone a check.
tim pool
They sent non-citizens checks in other countries.
Dead people were getting checks.
luke rudkowski
And it was even in different intervals.
If you were a different rank based on this classification and this IRS code, you would get it in September.
Some people would get it in June.
And it was all over the place.
ethan suplee
I gotta be honest with you.
I really don't see the purpose in sending everybody a check.
I personally didn't need a check.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
ethan suplee
Why did I get a check?
You know, if you want to be nice, give me a little break on my taxes or whatever.
unidentified
But, but like, instead of giving people money, stop stealing it.
luke rudkowski
You know, that's not a crazy idea.
tim pool
They didn't give everybody a check.
There was a, there was a, uh, an income limit.
ethan suplee
Okay.
tim pool
And I think one of the problems right now is, you know, Biden is saying, we're going to give $1,400, not $2,000, because it's supplemental to the $600 you already got, and it's going to be means-tested, meaning only people who make under a certain amount, and then you start to lose it.
I disagree with that.
The problem is, I'm not a big fan of the printing money.
I think it's going to be detrimental in the long run.
It's going to cause inflation.
It's going to be extremely damaging.
But so long as the American people are borrowing from themselves, OK, well, I guess we have to, because the economy's been grinded to a halt.
The government did it.
It's the government that caused the economic shutdown.
And now, instead of giving people access to resources to just... The money doesn't make the system work.
It just kind of kickstarts... It lubricates the economy a little bit.
They're not going to give everybody the amount of money they actually need to get the machine moving again.
So I actually think if you make more money, you should actually get more money.
You know why?
Let's say, before the lockdown, you were making $70,000 a year.
You built your lifestyle around your earnings.
If you were responsible, you had a bit of a savings, and you weren't living beyond your means.
So let's say you were paying rent, you had your medical bills, and you had insurance, and you had a cell phone bill.
All budgeted for your income of $70,000.
Economy stops.
You go to zero.
Let's say you've got $3,500 in bills every month, or something like that.
And then someone else was making $30,000, and they budgeted their life for $30,000, so their bills are about $1,000 a month.
Then the government says, I'm giving both of you $1,000.
Well, the person whose life was at $70,000, and that's not... I think the average income in the United States is $86,000.
The median, I think, is like $68,000.
So we're talking about an average person now having their life completely destroyed, losing their home, getting kicked out because they can't afford that small check.
I'm not necessarily saying definitively give rich people more money.
I'm just saying we need to consider the fact that someone who makes $70,000 a year is not a rich person.
ethan suplee
Right.
tim pool
But they have different needs than someone who is making $30,000.
In fact, maybe the answer is just give everyone more money, even the people who were making $30,000.
I don't think it makes sense to start taking it away from people just because they were making, you know, $75K or whatever.
ethan suplee
Yeah, but listen.
All this money is balanced again by the external dollars that are kind of keeping this and we're going to reach a point where we have now put too much inside and it's going to tip it and it's going to be a disaster.
tim pool
I don't know if you guys have seen this chart.
We really got to get some monitor set up so you can see it.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
tim pool
But it's the M1 money stock going back to 1959.
So this is the amount of dollars and other, like, basically it says billions of dollars
seasonally adjusted monthly from 1959 till today.
And from 1960 until about, let's say about 2000.
It's just a very slow and steady going, you know, so it's decades.
Then at 2008, it goes up a little bit.
The frequency of the production of money increases.
2020 happens.
And you know what the line looks like?
It goes straight up.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Just straight up.
Here's what it says.
In December 2019, $3,978 billion of dollars.
And then, in about February to March, it starts to hockey stick, and then from April to May, it goes up more, and then from April to May, it jumps dramatically.
Now, some people have pointed out that they changed the way they calculate this in May, and that may contribute.
But there's also other charts, the M4 money stock, and other charts from the Financial Times showing, regardless of the way they changed it, the same thing happened.
They started mass printing money with these stimulus checks, and we went from, you know, in March, 4,000, what is it, 4,257, to, what do we got here, July, 16,803.
So it, what, quadrupled?
257 to what do we got here?
July 16,803.
So it quadrupled.
And now it's at 18,105 billions of dollars in the M1 money stock.
I'm not an economist.
I can't tell you the nitty gritty of the M1 money stock.
Some people have said it doesn't necessarily matter, because it doesn't, you know, it's just money in circulation or something like that, but I'll tell you this, this chart and the other charts I've looked at, many people are pointing out it's unprecedented and we have no idea what's going to happen when you dump that much money into the system.
ian crossland
Um, I have a some idea, uh, lol.
tim pool
Do you, uh... You remember Weimar, Germany?
ian crossland
Yeah, what was it?
tim pool
Shuffling the Deutsche Marks into the gutter.
luke rudkowski
You ever heard of Zimbabwe?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Venezuela?
Brazil?
I don't want to read the whole thing.
It just says, before May, it consists of currency outside the U.S.
Treasury, Federal Reserve Banks.
Let's see.
You have more data about the way they change, they measure the M1 money supply in May?
tim pool
So I don't want to read the whole thing.
It just says before May, it consists of currency outside the U.S. Treasury, Federal Reserve
banks.
Let's see.
I wonder if there's just an easy way to look at what the change was.
I'm not entirely sure the difference is that much.
Well, let's see.
Demand deposits at commercial banks.
Where's the first change?
OK.
Beginning May 2020.
It doesn't look like... I have to read through it.
ian crossland
It seems oddly insidious that they would change the way they do the measurements in May of 2020 after they printed $12 trillion.
So they went from $4 trillion now to $18 trillion of liquid money in the supply.
tim pool
Well some people are saying, oh no no no, it only looks that way because they changed the way they calculate it.
And I'm like, the hockey stick started before May.
ian crossland
Yeah, certainly.
tim pool
It was February to March, March to April, April to May, and then May to June is not the biggest spike.
So they say, oh but at the beginning of May, yeah right, May to June is where we should see the biggest spike, right?
ian crossland
You know what else is up about 400%?
unidentified
Bitcoin.
ian crossland
What was Bitcoin?
tim pool
Wow, it really is.
In November, it was $13,000.
ian crossland
That's almost exactly it.
tim pool
Crazy.
ian crossland
And that was November.
What was it last January?
tim pool
Look, give us the talking point.
What was the meme?
luke rudkowski
For?
tim pool
For Bitcoin.
You said, remember what you said?
luke rudkowski
I forgot.
tim pool
Don't make me say it.
Say it.
If you bought Bitcoin instead of Toy Story... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
luke rudkowski
If you bought Bitcoin instead of Toy Story 3, the DVD, you would have $10 million.
lydia smith
Say that.
unidentified
Yes.
lydia smith
That's so rude.
luke rudkowski
Yup.
The DVD came out in 2010.
Amazing.
$10 million.
tim pool
$10 million.
ian crossland
And I don't know what it was, what Bitcoin was in January of last year.
tim pool
All of you people who bought Toy Story 3 on DVD, how dumb do you feel?
ian crossland
Good movie.
tim pool
You should have been psychic and known to buy an obscure computer program digital currency that no one knew about.
One of my favorite memes is from the early 2010s.
And someone was like, this Bitcoin thing seems interesting, what can I do with it?
And then someone said, buy drugs and hire assassins on the internet.
And that was their like, why would I buy it then?
But all of the ANCAPs, the anarcho-capitalists were like, wow, count me in!
And now a whole bunch of them are rich!
luke rudkowski
March 12th of 2020, Bitcoin was $4,857.
It's up 1,000.
ian crossland
It's up like 1,200%.
tim pool
Everybody's seeing this.
They're seeing the mass printing of money, and they bought Bitcoin.
ian crossland
Yeah, even the banks.
tim pool
Yep.
Even the banks.
Big insurance firms.
ian crossland
I think they're prepping for a total economic reset or transition to be $4,000.
tim pool
Well, you know who is the biggest holder of Bitcoin, right?
China.
luke rudkowski
Well, they were the biggest miners of Bitcoin.
We should probably do an audit.
Someone should.
I think they already did, where all the Bitcoin that was mined in China went, because that would be a very interesting perspective.
There's also a lot of talk about a lot of whales having a lot of control of Bitcoin.
That's one of the talking points that a lot of the alternative cryptocurrencies are making.
So, again, a lot of people are also saying, and I've been saying this from the very beginning, Bitcoin could be NSA honeypot from the very beginning.
Could be.
We don't know.
I don't have any evidence to prove that.
tim pool
I said this very early on, but I've maintained this.
Bitcoin is completely trackable.
Every transaction is tracked and they have AI that know exactly who's spending what.
So we've seen all these stories where they're like, we know the far right is spending money here and doing these things and here's what they bought because they can track every account in the blockchain.
So they know what you're doing.
luke rudkowski
They can on Monero.
Monero cryptocurrencies.
tim pool
They can't.
That's why Monero jumped in value, because it was like, oh, I can use this, and it's untraceable.
ian crossland
It was also why I got pulled off Bitrex last month.
luke rudkowski
For Americans.
ian crossland
For Americans, how insidious.
There's that word again.
Wow, it's a collusion.
tim pool
They want to know when you poop, Ian.
ian crossland
Facebook, they want to control you.
luke rudkowski
They want to know every little thing about you.
ian crossland
But maybe that's good, because people, what is this, the Panama Papers, where they were storing all that money overseas and it broke?
tim pool
You're right, but you misunderstand.
ian crossland
Do you think... Tracking for thee, but not for that guy?
tim pool
You think the wealthy global ultra elites are going to be subject to us tracking their expenditures?
ian crossland
I would hope so.
tim pool
No way!
Could you imagine if Epstein was on Bitcoin and we knew exactly what he was buying?
Never gonna happen.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, Deutsche Bank got a slap on the wrist for unusual activities financing and helping Mr. Epstein.
tim pool
It's the rich get richer, the poor stay poor, all that stuff.
We know it's gonna work.
They're gonna track you when you poop, but you will never be allowed to know when Bill Gates poops.
That is Mark Zuckerberg off-limits.
Not allowed.
ian crossland
I would need to talk to a blockchain expert to know more about if they could track, if it would track everybody.
Does it track the entire blockchain?
luke rudkowski
Like if someone knows your address, they know your transactions.
tim pool
But it's not even that.
Remember we talked about how Facebook knows things based on things you might not realize?
You can look at certain wallets and see all of them as a blind you know, public key. It's just a code. You don't see
anything. But the computer sees five accounts that interacted with this one account. They know that this
account interacted with this account, and they know this account was in Chattanooga. That means
if this one's in Chattanooga, this one had to be somewhere near it. Lo and behold, this one
interacted with that account. That account was also a few miles from Chattanooga. Boom. They know it's
in here.
ian crossland
They're probably laundering through wallets.
tim pool
Well, oh, definitely. A lot of people launder through wallets.
But what I'm saying is an AI can look at a big, a big list of all these different hash codes and see something a human can't.
They can see location data.
They can see everything because it's all connected.
They only need one key, right?
So imagine a Sudoku puzzle.
You've played Sudoku, you guys know?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You need a few clues, and then you can solve the puzzle.
For those that aren't familiar, it's like, you know, you got, it's 3x3 grid, and you gotta do 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and it's got, you know, you can only have one digit in each row, and you gotta figure out where it is.
You give someone a few clues for a few starting numbers, and you solve the puzzle.
A supercomputer's gonna look at the Bitcoin blockchain, and they're gonna have just one teeny bit of information.
This account is a common, is a high volume account in New York City.
And from there, they can find out who else is in New York City.
They can create a data visualization because this one wallet only interacts with, you know, 50 accounts in New York and only a few others outside of it.
Therefore, the person's likely in New York City.
Then they can look at who's interacting, they can see that person, and they can create an entire heat map of geographical locations to the best of its, you know, like with high probability.
They'll know who you are, what you're buying, where you're going, what you're doing, everything.
They've already done it with the far right, and they've said, we know who's donating, and who's donating to who, and they published it.
They were like, this French guy has just given a million dollars to this alt-right guy, and they just know.
Because they can look at the wallets, they know.
The moment you say, hey, here's my key, send me Bitcoin, they know who you are, they know where you are, they know what your wallet is, and they can use that information to figure out who the other people are that you're transacting with.
So they got it.
Bitcoin is giving that information out.
Welcome to the nightmare dystopia, I suppose.
But at least you'll be rich if you bought Bitcoin earlier.
ian crossland
So like, would it be, I'm trying to think like the U.S., who pays the U.S.
military?
They're paid in dollars right now.
If they start paying them in Bitcoin, that means that people with the Bitcoin are going to be running the military, not the U.S., not the taxpayers.
ethan suplee
I don't think we're anywhere near that happening, though.
tim pool
And another point to put out is, you could pay them in Bitcoin, and then when some, like, 21-year-old with a few thousand Bitcoin who's super rich shows up, and he says, I'm gonna control the military because I have all the resources, they pull out their gun and say, no, you're not.
ian crossland
But what if he's like, just, I'll pay you three times as much to do the same work for me.
tim pool
The special interest says, we are legally allowed to cause physical harm to your body.
Try it.
ian crossland
What if it's a Chinese guy, though?
tim pool
Yeah, let me introduce you to a guy named Muammar Gaddafi.
What was he trying to do?
luke rudkowski
He was trying to create the gold, dinar, and African Union currency that would trade amongst itself.
tim pool
What was Saddam Hussein trying to do?
luke rudkowski
He was trying to sell oil on the international market without the U.S.
unidentified
dollar.
tim pool
They're both dead.
I wonder.
luke rudkowski
Afghanistan, Syria also made similar measures, so yeah.
tim pool
It's what Ethan was saying, man.
If you step in front of the petrodollar, don't be surprised when you no longer are alive.
ethan suplee
Most of the countries that are in the news, that are looked down upon or getting crapped on, are doing that.
ian crossland
It's like Iran, Russia, Korea, Cuba, Russia also.
luke rudkowski
But also very interesting, there was a lot of comments by the kind of establishment types, especially Janet Yellen, Biden's Treasury Secretary, Elon Musk, and also Bill Gates recently that made, according to some people, made the price of Bitcoin go down because Bill Gates said that we should definitely get rid of Bitcoin.
Janet Yellen said it was extremely inefficient, which is absolutely hilarious coming from the former Federal Reserve Chairman and very duplicitous and extremely hypocritical.
tim pool
Well, should we jump super chat?
ian crossland
Yeah, real fast before we do.
Do you remember that military guy who said we're going to be invading like nine countries a night?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
luke rudkowski
I talked to him and I interviewed him about that.
And when I brought it up, he looked like he saw a ghost.
Wesley Clark.
ian crossland
Wesley Clark.
luke rudkowski
We are changed.
Wesley Clark.
I play that clip of him saying that he was at the meetings and they told them the plan that they're going to invade all of these countries.
And he brought it up on an interview with Amy Goodman on Democracy Now.
They were doing a live segment, sitting down, talking about it.
I talked to him and he was he literally freaked out and he turned white
and he ran away. He wasn't wrong.
ian crossland
He was when I brought it up to him.
He was talking about the country's exactly you just brought up
that are refusing OPEC based on the OPEC dollar. Yeah.
ethan suplee
There you look.
And I've had conversations with friends who say that there are humanitarian
things to be done in these countries also.
Um...
But I think that misses the broader point that there are lots of countries with humanitarian things to be done but are not monetarily beneficial.
And I'm kind of a realist because I enjoy living here.
I have a nice life.
I recognize, though, that for me, morally, there's a trade-off.
unidentified
Right.
ethan suplee
You know?
tim pool
That's exactly the point I used to make to my friends when they were voting.
I'm like, you know, I have a friend who was telling me they're like a lefty activist and they wanted to make the world a better place.
And I said, no, you want to make your community better.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
I want to make the world a better place.
And I was like, you're using a laptop that was made of Foxconn laboratory where people are committing suicide and mess.
And she had a realization that, no, you're not fighting for the world because while you may be more affected with a laptop, That product is the result of all this suffering, so it's a moral trade-off.
ethan suplee
I do become disappointed sometimes when this conversation becomes, the moniker isolationist is hung on it.
I grew up in Los Angeles around a lot of left people, and there was always kind of an anti-war bent.
And somewhere, 15 years ago, that shifted and we were humanitarians.
And I just don't see that.
I don't think of myself as an isolationist, but I do, you know, it becomes a weird thing.
tim pool
Well, let's take a Super Chats.
If you haven't already, smash the like button, and don't forget to go to TimCast.com.
Become a member for exclusive members-only segments.
Let's read some of these comments.
We got Jonathan Galterini says, I'm sorry.
I'm so angry.
Can someone talk about how Biden just bombed Syria after all these peace deals we made?
How does this help any country?
Send my brothers and sisters home.
Leave the East alone.
I hear you, man.
unidentified
I hear you.
luke rudkowski
You're not wrong.
tim pool
Snowboard Dan says Tim got a new hoodie.
I did.
Ethan gave me his American Glutton hoodie and t-shirts.
And I said, that looks pretty cool.
I think I'm gonna wear it.
luke rudkowski
I'm jealous.
tim pool
I don't wear Luke's shirts.
I killed my clone today.
ethan suplee
What does that mean?
The idea comes from a good guy slash mentor of mine named Tom Kier, who I actually played a character based on him in the television show Chance.
And through conversations with him, he has this philosophy that he uses to train combat people.
He's a martial arts instructor.
And, uh, basically the point is every day you have to better yourself.
So you meet to battle a version of yourself that's 24 hours in the past.
And if you can best it, you've won the day and you've killed your clone.
tim pool
That's cool.
I like that.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Well, let's read.
Let's read some more.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Look at this.
Join my cult says Tim looking dope tonight.
Oh, they seem to really like your hoodie, huh?
Brent Saigon says, Hey Tim, I mentioned on your stream on the first that my brother Grant has watched you for years but didn't become a member and I asked you to bully him.
I humbly request you up your bullying and call him out by name so I have a sound bite to play him.
I assume he has the same last name as you.
Grant Saigon!
Why aren't you a member?
Join!
We'll make a special account that we can only post on it just for him to yell at him.
Everyone's like, what is this weird thing?
Nothing's happening when I click on it.
But only your brother will be able to click on it.
unidentified
Alright, let's see.
tim pool
Mike G says, on your vid earlier on GameStop, the current market has more to do with current government bond interest rates, not GameStonks.
I am not a cat.
Alright, I didn't think you were, but alright.
Tons of people are commenting saying Biden bombed Syria, Biden bombed Syria.
lydia smith
What's up with that?
tim pool
Biden bombed Syria.
ian crossland
He barely got into it.
So what happened?
ethan suplee
Yeah, I don't know.
luke rudkowski
He bombed facilities that were tied.
Allegedly, these are the official sources of what we're hearing right now, at Iranian-linked facilities that were backed by some of their militia.
Again, very still, murky details.
We just got this announcement.
What did they bomb?
What are the consequences?
What are the amount of people that were killed here we still do not know. This is nuts
tim pool
man he's gonna start a war with Russia.
luke rudkowski
36 days in. Russia also increased the number of troops that they have in the region so of course
did the United States recently and Turkey is also on the border and Turkey's the big wild card here
because they're a member of NATO and they're in favor of of course taking over more of Syria
which the United States is against and NATO and and um United States are butting head inside of Syria.
tim pool
And now they're saying they want women in combat roles, and they want them in the Selective Service?
Timing!
ian crossland
I don't know if you'd call it moronic.
The liberal economic order of the British and the Americans that are trying to dominate the globe with military bases are losing the plot if they think that the world will not unite against them.
This is insanity, bro.
luke rudkowski
Well, they won't unite against them.
And this is the thing.
I've been saying this was going to happen on my independent media channel for a very long time.
I said, as soon as Biden's in, it's only going to be a matter of time until he relaunches the bombing campaigns.
And here we are.
tim pool
That's the meme.
There's a meme.
It's amazing.
You guys know the meme of Biden eating ice cream?
Luke posted it.
It's a woman with a Biden hat screaming, Can I have my $2,000 check, please?
And Biden goes, Yeah, sure, babe.
I'll bomb Syria.
luke rudkowski
There's another one that says Biden tweeted America is back, and there's an image of a Syrian child saying, oh good, oh God, with the drone being LGBTQ friendly.
tim pool
All right, well, we'll get into a little bit more with more Super Chats, but we'll read some more.
Cirilio says, first saw you in My Name is Earl, but mad props to you, sir, for breaking the typecast you were pigeonholed into.
Great surprise guest, Tim and crew.
Were you pigeonholed?
ethan suplee
I think for a long time, at the size I was, I was definitely cast as a very large person.
Yeah, I do.
And you know, honestly, I probably would have had more monetary success if I had stayed that size.
ian crossland
What were the top three films that you've done that you love the most?
ethan suplee
Cold Mountain is my favorite movie that I've been in, but then, you know, Remember the Titans, American History X, Blow, Mallrats.
What's Cold Mountain?
It's a Civil War movie that Anthony Minghella directed with Jude Law and Nicole Kidman, Renée Zellweger.
ian crossland
Do you do a bunch of location stuff?
ethan suplee
We, we shot it almost entirely in Romania.
unidentified
Wow.
ethan suplee
Oddly enough.
tim pool
Well, uh, with your weight loss, you got one of the most vital roles ever.
You got to be the podcaster in the movie, The Hunt.
ethan suplee
Yes.
That's right.
unidentified
Yeah.
It's a great movie.
tim pool
We have another, Spanky says, bring back, my name is Earl.
And then his little, uh, hang 10 hand sign.
lydia smith
Please.
ethan suplee
Yeah, it seems unlikely there has there was a Jason Lee and Greg Garcia, the creator, went and talked to some streaming platforms about doing more episodes.
And they got a lukewarm response.
So, yeah, I mean, this was a really popular show.
tim pool
It was huge.
ethan suplee
It was very popular.
But I think with stuff like Full House and Will and Grace and the shows that did come back, there was such a There's a huge outpouring of like, please do this show.
tim pool
So we need 43,000 people to tweet right now.
Hashtag bring back my name.
ethan suplee
That might do it.
tim pool
Well, you know, hey, if people really want it.
Andrew Andrew says, is your flat ground game on the level of Johnny Geiger?
You've said you don't have a favorite skater previously, but give me a top three.
Keep it up, guys.
Absolutely not.
Johnny would annihilate me.
That's that's that's ridiculous.
Johnny Geiger is probably one of the best flat ground skaters in the world.
Hands down.
Top three skateboarders.
Oof, that's tough.
Always Rodney Mullen.
And I know it might be a little cliche to say, because he's the godfather of street skating, but when I was younger and started skating, I watched Rodney Mullen videos.
Me and my friends did freestyle.
That's why there's this video my buddy Brett shot 15 years ago.
It's Tim Pool skating in a warehouse, and now has like 400,000 views.
The craziest thing, I'm like 19.
But I do a one-foot nose manual, shove it manual, kickflip, because it's Rodney Mullen.
Uh, I'm actually gonna say, uh, Elliot Sloan right now.
Do you guys, you watch any skateboarding stuff?
ethan suplee
A little bit.
tim pool
Elliot Sloan, man, he's got a mega ramp in his backyard, but it's like a double mega ramp and his videos are some of the best.
I watched that vert skating and I'm like, I wish I could do And I wish I could do just a frontside air on a 20-foot vert ramp.
Not gonna happen.
I'm too old.
And then, um... Maybe Aurelien Giraud.
Giraud?
Probably pronouncing his name wrong.
But he might be, I think, one of the best skateboarders on the planet right now.
If not the best.
Just in terms of all-around skill and ability.
So there you go.
All right, we got Jay Manial says, Canada didn't need conscription to get 1 million people to volunteer in time of trouble during World War II with a population of 11 million.
Very interesting.
Interesting.
Zach30 says, Frankie Staccino is on Timcast OMG.
Boy Meets World changed my life.
Been a fan forever since then and watched your journey unfold.
Much love.
Everybody's gushing over Ethan.
ethan suplee
I think that that show was happening before these people were alive.
I really do.
tim pool
I mean, I was a little kid when it was on.
I watched it.
Yeah.
ethan suplee
But I was barely barely.
tim pool
When did it first air?
I was born in ninety three.
Yeah.
ethan suplee
OK.
luke rudkowski
I watched it.
I enjoyed it.
ian crossland
It was a staple in my Fred Savage's younger brother.
I was a huge Wonder Years fan.
unidentified
And I got to say, as brothers, Maybe a better actor than Fred.
ian crossland
I don't know, you guys are both awesome, but they were great.
Surprisingly amazing.
ethan suplee
Yeah, it was fun.
tim pool
Oh, check this out.
Nosealazar says, George Romero shot Day of the Living Dead at the same mall Mallrats was shot.
Is that true?
ethan suplee
I didn't know that.
tim pool
Wow, that's hilarious.
Watching both sides, back to back.
Maybe make a short film that combines the two universes.
ethan suplee
Yeah.
tim pool
The Kevin Smith zombie universe.
ethan suplee
Zombie Mallrats.
That would be a cool movie.
tim pool
Gordo Fabulous says, screw mall rats.
Here's five bucks for having Randy on.
Bring back My Name is Earl.
Well, you guys have all tweeted it.
Let's go.
Look, it would be amazing if that happened.
ethan suplee
It would be amazing if that happened, but I think it requires a lot of people.
tim pool
Who owned My Name is Earl?
Which network was it?
ethan suplee
Um... Fox.
tim pool
Fox.
ethan suplee
Fox owned it, but it aired on NBC.
tim pool
Really?
So it'd be a Disney Plus show.
ethan suplee
I don't know.
tim pool
Disney, you need some more mature content.
I don't mean like mature rated, I mean like more content for like the older generation.
I turn on Disney Plus and what do we get?
Kid stuff.
A lot of kid stuff.
You know, a lot of kid stuff.
I mean, they have Simpsons and Family Guy on Disney Plus.
They gotta bring back My Name is Earl.
Alright, let's see what we got here.
Let's jump to... Raymond Field says, so our dumb president already is launching strikes in Syria and is promising action on the Second Amendment.
But remember, folks, orange man bad.
Oh yeah, I know, you know.
Biker Bob says, Ethan, are you still looking for a Ranchero?
I have one from M-N-I Earl.
Oh, from My Name is Earl.
ethan suplee
Wow, those cars were awesome.
My wife would be pissed if I got one.
unidentified
That's how it goes.
tim pool
A lot of people are just saying, my name is Earl, my name is Earl.
Oliver Macrea says, oh my god, it's my name.
My name is not Earl.
Love your show.
Keep fighting the good fight.
Here's a good one.
Bobby Bob says, Ethan, your weight loss has been inspirational to me.
While I'm still struggling greatly, I've gotten the working out part down.
Seeing you is helping me with the mental aspect.
ethan suplee
Nice.
tim pool
You have any quick, simple, easy advice?
Or is that just a myth?
ethan suplee
No, no, I do.
I think that for me, the most important things that helped for long term were the idea of allowing it to take time, not needing it to be immediate.
And figuring out stuff specifically with exercise that I could do every day and wasn't going to be something that I either wound up hurt or so exhausted by that I couldn't do it.
So I now exercise for an hour a day, six days a week, and they're workouts that I could do forever.
It's never going to be too much.
Perfect.
tim pool
Right on.
Let's see.
We got this one from Perik.
I'll just leave it there.
Jocko disagrees with you.
Colonel David Hackworth handled draftees in Vietnam and he said they performed well too.
All depends on the quality of leadership.
Draftees question chain of command more than volunteers.
Yeah, you know Luke, wasn't it true that the NYPD said they only hired dumb cops?
luke rudkowski
I remember hearing something about that.
I don't know if it was specifically with the NYPD, but I remember if an officer scored too high on the intelligence portion.
And it wouldn't surprise me because if you want people to take orders and not question them, you usually have to lower the IQ of your candidates.
tim pool
Yeah.
DaBasedZoomer says, Ethan, your character in My Name is Earl had sleep apnea.
Do you have it?
If so, did weight loss help?
I was diagnosed two years ago and have been getting treatment ever since with a CPAP machine.
It's made life livable again.
ethan suplee
Yes, I did have it and I don't anymore.
tim pool
Losing weight.
ethan suplee
Losing weight handled it for me.
Yeah.
tim pool
Amazing.
ethan suplee
Yeah.
It's a brutal, brutal thing to have.
tim pool
It's like we wake up at night going... Yeah, you're not breathing.
ethan suplee
Yeah, but I would do it and not be even aware that that was happening.
My wife would listen to me and go like, hey, wake up, you're not breathing.
Wow.
And I was just tired all the time and I would fall asleep driving my car.
tim pool
Because you weren't getting REM sleep.
Your brain couldn't get sleep because that was what was happening?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Crazy, crazy.
ethan suplee
It's awful.
tim pool
Yeah.
Jacob Dahlbenspeck says, I work for a company that makes parts for Raytheon.
As much as I don't like the military-industrial complex, I really like the money from the military-industrial complex.
Keep us open during COVID.
That's true!
You can't deny that.
luke rudkowski
Your business is going to be booming under a Biden presidency.
Congrats, I guess.
tim pool
Black Pelt of Confucian says, hey, Tim, what's up with the shirt?
Ah, so many people are watching and probably wondering why I'm wearing this hoodie.
It's Ethan's podcast, American Glutton.
ethan suplee
American Glutton.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And so he gave me swag and I was looking at the hoodie and I was like, oh, that's kind of cool.
I'm going to wear it.
Because I thought it was the Anarchy symbol.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
It says American Glutton.
ethan suplee
The G is open.
It's not a full circle.
tim pool
Not a full circle, but I thought it looked cool.
luke rudkowski
You're getting there.
unidentified
It's a good visualization.
tim pool
It's almost there.
Corey Carlson says, hi Tim, love you, love the whole group.
Tell Ethan Suplee congrats on getting ripped.
Fun fact.
The same amount of people have died in gender reveal accidents and shootings as the amount of people that died in the Capitol insurrection.
Did you guys see the latest one?
Like a gender reveal exploded and kills people.
I'll tell you what, make a birthday cake and make the inside blue or red or pink or whatever.
There you go.
You cut it and like, oh, hey, look, I got a cake.
ethan suplee
Four kids, we never did this.
Right, just tell people.
I didn't even know this was a thing.
tim pool
You know you do?
You have a Trump hat or a Biden hat.
It's like, it's a boy!
So wait, wait.
ian crossland
It's a Republican.
tim pool
It's a Republican.
ian crossland
Red and blue.
lydia smith
Congratulations.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
Robert Kindley says, you can't go to war with China if you are too busy going to war with China Joe Biden.
Hey, there you go.
And then pointing to his head.
Clyde the Slug says, Tim just bought two I Am A Gorilla shirts.
Also chocolate-covered pretzels.
Those are quite delicious.
And don't forget, you can get your exclusive Our Pillow.
It is the first version over at Teespring.
Go to TimCast.com, click shop, and you can get the I Am A Gorilla t-shirt and the Our Pillow, which has the my crossed out.
And we are working on the campaign for the official, original Our Pillow, which is just behind Ian.
It's a burlap sack full of packing peanuts.
ian crossland
That's the prototype.
tim pool
That's the prototype.
I am not joking when I say we are going to sell this now.
lydia smith
Heck yeah.
unidentified
There's probably... It's not a joke, folks.
tim pool
I mean, it is.
ian crossland
It is funny, but it's not a joke.
tim pool
And I'm not kidding.
I've looked into getting commercials on Fox News, and I'm pretty confident that will happen.
ian crossland
I'm pretty confident we're gonna sell something.
tim pool
And we're gonna have a... our pillow.
It is a burlap sack full of Steiner Home Packing peanuts.
lydia smith
People are gonna buy it.
unidentified
Watch.
tim pool
Well, we gotta figure out a bunch of regulatory stuff.
lydia smith
Ugh.
tim pool
But I plan on doing this.
ian crossland
Not an actual pillow.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I just, I just, you know what I was thinking?
ethan suplee
It's like an artwork!
lydia smith
Yeah, exactly!
tim pool
Where, where is anybody?
You know, like, like Elon Musk has all his money.
And he does some fun stuff with, like, his tweets.
But he could literally have a giant golden statue of, like, I don't know, Pac-Man just built and put somewhere for no reason.
ian crossland
So glad he doesn't.
tim pool
And, but it would, why?
ian crossland
I don't know, opulence?
tim pool
But it's not about that.
It's about, like, okay, so maybe not that, but doing things to kind of, like, sort of shake people a little bit.
Like, hey, wake up, live, do something.
ian crossland
Make life fun.
tim pool
Yeah.
That's why I want to do the hour pillow.
Because I want people to be like, this is the worst pillow I've ever had, but it's mine and I got it.
I'm excited for it.
It'll be funny.
It'll be funny.
There you go.
ethan suplee
Do you know that there's now NFT art?
tim pool
What is that?
ethan suplee
Non-fungible token art.
What?
Some of it's worth millions of dollars, too.
And it's just written into blockchain.
tim pool
Really?
ethan suplee
I think they're using Ethereum.
ian crossland
Crypto kitties?
ethan suplee
Something like that.
tim pool
Weird.
unidentified
Interesting.
tim pool
Cool.
lydia smith
Never heard of it.
tim pool
Robert Galera says, Ethan, your body transformation video was an inspiration.
Exercise has been routine in my life for the past two years.
Thank you.
ethan suplee
Nice.
Thank you.
tim pool
Seven Empire says, My man Ethan was Seth from American History X. Looking good, brother.
You were in all of my favorite shows and films growing up.
Who remembers Boy Meets World?
That's right.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Ministeroni says Spotify unfollowed your podcast for me, so it's time I joined this really cool website.
I hear they sell great pillows.
lydia smith
Yes, they do.
tim pool
Keep up the great work, everybody.
That's right.
lydia smith
The best.
tim pool
Let's see, what is it, Skills Bot?
Nice to see Louie Lastic on the show.
C-plus average coach.
ethan suplee
Yeah, that was a line from Remember the Titans, the character I played in our line from that.
tim pool
Right on.
ethan suplee
Yeah, I got into college.
tim pool
John McHugh says, Ian, it's a sailboat.
ethan suplee
Yeah.
tim pool
Mallrats references.
I'm sure a bunch of Super Chats are going to be the Mallrats references.
ian crossland
I love that movie.
ethan suplee
Good movie.
ian crossland
And Kevin's such a genius, man.
ethan suplee
Yeah.
ian crossland
Oh, I love it in his raw form.
tim pool
I mean, look at this, man.
Curious Mishap says, Yo, Ethan, I remember you were my favorite character on that canceled TV show.
Would you ever advocate for a continuation of My Name is Earl?
ethan suplee
I would do it.
I think everybody, all the cast has been asked.
They all said they would do it.
It really is just a matter of demand.
tim pool
I think they should do it.
I think we, I got Disney Plus and I canceled it.
Because of some controversies and stuff.
ethan suplee
What are the Disney Plus controversies?
tim pool
The Uyghur thing.
And Gina Carano.
And then I was like, the Gina Carano thing was dumb, but the Uyghur thing, was it the XPCC?
That was like, oof.
ethan suplee
I have a question about the Gina Carano thing, because I just don't know.
Was she a regular on that show?
tim pool
Yes.
ethan suplee
Okay.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
She was, uh... I don't know if you consider her to be a supporting or recurring character.
Recurring, perhaps?
But she was in, like, more than half of the episodes in each season, maybe?
Maybe not.
ethan suplee
Yeah, I mean listen, again, to play the devil's advocate, when you do a television show for a big company like that, you sign a morality clause, and it's not even defined.
If you do something that they find immoral, they can get rid of you.
tim pool
I did mention this when, when she got canceled, I did say, listen,
while I recognize, I thought it was absurd. She got canceled because what she said was,
don't demonize your neighbor. She didn't say anything about Republicans. She didn't
compare Republicans to anybody. She said they demonize their neighbors in Nazi Germany.
I said, but listen, the reason why they hire actors is like, you're, you're, you're an advertisement.
They want to put your name.
You know, first of all, they want the talent, obviously.
But for certain people, you know, they want top billing.
They want people to see this and say, oh, I love that actor.
I love the shows they do.
And so you're acting as a kind of salesperson for the brand outside of the acting you do in it.
I mean, that's fair, too.
You're the actor.
You're the expert.
ethan suplee
Yeah, no, that's exactly it.
And if you do something that tarnishes their brand, they're very quickly going to get rid of you.
They don't want that kind of drama.
tim pool
The problem is, you could drop an ice cream cone on the ground and then people are going to scream at the top of their lungs to try and get you fired.
You know what I mean?
Obviously not that simple.
But the media really spun what she said completely out of context.
ethan suplee
I think it's a really dumb analogy, but I understand the gist of what she's saying.
tim pool
But no, look, she didn't make an analogy.
ethan suplee
Well, the meme, whatever the meme was.
tim pool
She shouldn't have posted the image, because the image was actually from... I think it was the image that got her canned.
That was... right.
That, I think, I would absolutely criticize, because I don't... I wouldn't post something like that.
Right.
But all it said was in Nazi Germany, they had the, you know, before the
government was able to do what they did, they were propagandizing people
to attack their own neighbors.
How is that different from attacking someone on their political views?
ethan suplee
Right.
tim pool
She didn't say anything about Republicans.
So that was insinuated.
And then now people are saying she compared Republicans to like, you
know, the Jewish people that she didn't do that at the core of the message
was stop demonizing your neighbors for what they believe.
And I was like, if someone on the left posted that, people would be like, that's right, Trump supporters should stop doing this.
Everyone should stop doing it.
But I think it is fair to point out, and I definitely did, like right away, like, if you work for Disney and you post something, That's why a lot of actors keep their mouths shut.
ethan suplee
Yeah.
tim pool
That's why I think it's rad that you came on the show, to be honest.
There's a lot of people that I know and respect who are like, I'm really worried I'll get in trouble if I, you know, come on the podcast and we talk politics.
And it's like, I don't blame them.
It's really, you know, I'm disappointed for sure.
But, you know, I talked about this with a lot of people.
It's hard to tell someone, will you sacrifice everything in your life now that there's a political battle?
My personal answer is like, I will always stand up for what I believe in.
I understand why people might be, you know, worried or scared.
ian crossland
We don't even need to talk about politics.
We kind of choose that path, but there's so many other cool things to do and talk about, like health.
tim pool
I definitely think we need to try harder to focus on some positive things in life as well.
ian crossland
Entertainment, like just, I mean, your presence, your aura and your history, like the power of that industry is so, I don't know how you would say it, immense.
I mean, that's one way to phrase it, but like just pervasive.
It's so like, It's storytelling.
It's one of the most ancient human arts.
And mass media is, you know, but it's, it's so it's enhanced it or intensified it.
It's incredibly powerful.
tim pool
When, when, when Ethan walked in, everybody was gushing.
And I'm just like, it's funny that we can have these really high profile political figures that we listen to every day that inspire people.
And it's like, Oh, wow.
Hey, it's cool.
Cool to finally meet you.
But then, you know, you come in and I think there is something really important about entertainment that we take for granted.
When I was younger, I used to actually feel the opposite.
I was like, we waste too much time on entertainment.
We don't focus on the more important things.
And now that we've inverted it and politics has become pop culture, I'm like, can we please go back to talking about movies?
Because we went too far.
We want to focus on the important things and we need to have relief.
ian crossland
Humor.
Humor.
The word humor and human is like intertwined.
We need it.
tim pool
People are saying, here look, check this out, uh, Y-Doc says, bro, Remember the Titans is my all-time favorite sports movie.
Shame it's only on Disney+, I had to go out and find the DVD.
Like, the fact that, you know, we watch these movies and we're inspired and we feel good, it's, it's, we need, we need to bring that back into pop culture.
Because, you know, I was talking to a, uh, uh, like a podcast network recently, And they were talking about politics and news and stuff.
And I said, I gotta be honest.
Like I talked a lot about culture.
We talked about Sonic the Hedgehog a year ago and Birds of Prey, but when the movie industry kind of stopped and COVID happened and everything went up when election and politics became pop culture, it got so intense and everyone started fighting.
I'm like, there needs to be a split.
You know, we need to focus on politics and we need to focus on the things that give us relief and joy to calm down.
Otherwise we're going to explode.
lydia smith
Hey, I have an audience question.
Sorry, I have to interject.
I'm being pressured by my audience here.
here. I have a friend who wants to know what you guys both like
best about Michael Malice.
His friend is.
ethan suplee
Michael Malice's friend.
lydia smith
Who is this friend?
unidentified
I wonder who this is.
I okay.
tim pool
Michael, are you texting Lydia?
ethan suplee
Maybe, maybe not.
unidentified
His humbleness.
ethan suplee
I think Michael Malice has perfected how to use Twitter.
Because nothing he writes is cheap.
Super obvious or or if it is you have to be paying attention to him a while and at the bottom of it He's actually the most caring guy.
It's it's it's really wonderful.
tim pool
I love Michael Malice when Michael tweeted I'm gonna I'm gonna say we tweeted.
I hope you're all ready.
What do you think Rush Limbaugh is saying to George Floyd right now?
Something like that I really like the tweet.
You know why?
Because it's implying they're both, I would say, in heaven together.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
In a good place.
And I just thought it was... Michael knows how to craft his tweets perfectly.
That's why I said, like, you know, people say, like, who do you look up to in life?
I said, never really anybody, to be honest.
But in terms of, like, who I'm keeping my eye on, I watch Michael Malice's tweet and I'm like, this guy, he's figured it out.
ethan suplee
Yeah.
tim pool
I've not seen anybody figure it out like he's figured it out.
It's definite inspiration.
ethan suplee
I love him.
And I'm very excited about his book.
tim pool
Did he just make you promote?
So now we're promoting his book.
ian crossland
Michael Malice's new book, The White Pill.
ethan suplee
Well, not only The White Pill, he's writing The Anarchist Handbook.
lydia smith
Oh, interesting.
ethan suplee
Because, you know, there's a lot of... the left anarchists get very, very angry at the anarcho-capitalists.
luke rudkowski
Non-aggression principle, the free market.
ethan suplee
Right, but Lysander Spooner was around predating Emma Goldman.
Anyway, the point is, their sanity From all those guys, all those cats had stuff to say that was rational at some point.
So, he's going to write a really cool book.
I'm excited.
tim pool
Right on.
lydia smith
It's hard work, I know.
tim pool
All right, we got Philip Aboody says, 584 pounds here, and I have been on opioids for eight years, and the dosage was slowly going up and up until I started to remove carbs, sugar specifically, and I started taking vitamin C and D, I think Mg is magnesium?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Zinc and collagen daily.
I have stopped taking opioids, dropping from 100 plus milligrams a day to none.
Dude, awesome.
unidentified
Congratulations.
luke rudkowski
That's awesome.
That's some of the supplements I take.
Collagen?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
We promote collagen with one of our sponsors, so always give a shout out to BioTrust.
Those guys are awesome.
Help make the show happen.
Jordan Schaffer says, Join the family at Timcast.com.
YouTube lost all my confidence in it when I couldn't donate a normal amount easily.
Thank you for the amazing content.
Y'all are the best.
So right now, what we're doing with the website, we have just like extra segments we'll do.
We reserve the more like, the things we're not supposed to say on social media.
Because we can say on the website, we can swear, we can do all that stuff.
But what we want to do with TimCast.com, but maybe a bigger brand, maybe we'll start with TimCast.com, is actually original shows.
So other podcasts, but even fiction stuff, that may be down the line.
I think we might start with mini-docs and man-on-the-street interviews and just get more and more content and really, you know, bring some, you know, bang for your buck.
All right.
Chris Pavotto says, you often say finite resources.
How much longer until the media praises Thanos 50% concept?
Sell me a 40 year old using the internet for 20 years on a VPN.
How will my years of past history help my future?
The Thanos thing?
Aren't they already doing that?
ian crossland
The Great Reset?
tim pool
Sacrifice?
ian crossland
Yeah, I mean... Well, they kind of have accepted that the human population is... there's too much, and that people are gonna die regardless, so they're trying to, like, get ahead of the curve on that or something?
luke rudkowski
Well, the human population is going to go down, according to many statisticians and scientists, by the year 2044, according to some estimates, or even sooner, because a large swap of the Western populations are declining in numbers rapidly.
and there's a big huge loss of sperm count.
There's a huge rise in miscarriages.
There's a huge rise in infertility.
So the population is dramatically going down in shocking ways that are gonna have
huge profound implications that I talk about on my YouTube channel,
because this is huge stuff that deserves more coverage.
tim pool
Definitely.
ethan suplee
But also, isn't there something to do with like, as groups move out of poverty, they have less kids?
tim pool
Yes.
ethan suplee
That's got to be part of it too, right?
tim pool
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
Well, yes, that's why Western countries and Japan are dealing with this, but each country is different.
China is different because of their one-child policy that a lot of Establishment elites like Ted Turner call for in the United States.
Individuals like Prince Philip and Bill Gates kind of advocate for depopulation as well.
So there's a lot of different variables.
The population in China might normalize.
The population in Africa is going up dramatically.
tim pool
Alright, we got Ryan Curie says, Hey Tim, I love your show.
Been watching Luke since the old days.
Wondering how you think a right-leaning moderate like myself should go about debating emotional leftists and people who believe everything CNN and mainstream media tells them.
Be nice to them.
If they get angry, apologize for making them angry.
Swallow your pride.
When I have a lot of conversations with my lefty friends, and I'll say something, I try to be calm, they'll get agitated.
Because it's like, if there's something they're confident in, but they actually don't know about, so they'll say something like, you know, oh, I think Biden is better than Trump because he's gonna get us these checks, and then I'll say, well, it's been, you know, how many, 30, 31 days, he hasn't got the checks to anybody.
If they get really mad, I'll say something like, Hey man, I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to make you angry.
I, you know, I just want to have a conversation.
You know, we don't, we don't have to talk if you don't want to and just try to be friends.
The, uh, it's not easy.
It's not, it's not super easy because everybody gets agitated.
Everybody gets elevated, you know, you know, the tensions elevate, but you know, really what I do when I have conversations with people.
Is if they go off the deep end and get super tribalist, I'll just say something like, I don't understand why you're being so mean.
You know, I'm sorry that you got angry.
We don't have to talk about this.
Because you're not going to solve anything if people are screaming at each other.
So it just really depends on what your goal is.
Sometimes people have told me they intentionally try to keep engaging with someone who's getting angry because they want other people to see it.
So one thing I often do is I try to be overly polite in any conversation I have, particularly on Twitter.
Because my attitude is, look, someone is watching this conversation and they're going to see me saying, I didn't mean any harm.
I'm sorry.
I mean, no disrespect.
And the other person saying, F you, you moron.
You're so dumb.
And people are going to gravitate towards the person who's nice.
That's the easiest way to do it, I suppose.
First thing you got to do.
lydia smith
It's proven.
tim pool
All right, let's jump down.
Let's see what we got here in the old super chat box.
That's another show that was cancelled too early.
ethan suplee
That I was in the last season of.
Yeah, I don't know who to tell, but the creator of that was one of the writers on My Name is Earl, so I think it was in the same universe somehow.
tim pool
I got to say, I'm not, I don't, I don't know if I have the clout in any capacity with, you know, with the audience to actually get My Name is Zerl to trend and come back.
But I would say it would be like the coolest thing ever if like, you know, it happened.
And it's just like, Ethan went on this show and they were talking about political issues and cultural issues and war.
And then the audience was like, we want My Name is Zerl.
That'd be awesome.
That'd be so cool.
Yeah.
lydia smith
What should people tweet?
tim pool
I don't know.
What should people tweet?
ethan suplee
I have no, I have no, I don't know how Twitter works anymore.
tim pool
Well, you know, I think if, if, if everybody told all their friends, they're bringing back so many shows, they're bringing back Frasier.
ethan suplee
Are they?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
They're bringing back Frasier.
Yeah.
Paramount plus tons of shows.
It's time to come back, man.
ethan suplee
Yeah, it could happen.
tim pool
Daddy T says, Tim, what's your favorite skate video besides your sponsor me tape?
Uh, I don't have a sponsor me tape.
I never, I've never done anything like that.
I hate filming.
I just, I hate filming skateboarding.
I filmed some stuff that I was proud of in the past, but my favorite skate video?
Um, what's it called?
Is it Fun by Santa Cruz?
Maybe not.
I don't remember.
I, you know, I honestly, I don't really care for, for skate videos all that much or filming.
Just like oh, nope.
Sorry easily.
It's Brett Novak's Killian Martin a skate escalation hands down He's a friend of mine, but the music so good and Killian Martin an amazing skateboarder You guys should check that out on on on his channel Brett Novak It was one of like a super famous video went mainstream viral.
So that's it was crazy to see regular people who didn't skate Watching the skate video like wow, so super cool All right.
DJ Mederos says, Tim, I once read an issue of Popular Mechanics in the late 90s.
In it, there was an article that said all the UFO technology from Area 51 and Wright-Patterson Air Force Base was moved to a base in northwest Utah that's 200 square miles.
Interesting.
Well, that would be fun to learn about, I suppose.
Publius the Good said, Trump did that to M1, just saying.
Well, his cabinet, because he was trying to bribe the people who... I can't say that on YouTube.
He was trying to bribe people, but they still turned on him.
Yeah.
Nate Boley.
Or NateBoy.
Why don't you make dual stream to TimCast.com so you can just shut down YouTube stream and keep streaming on .com for exclusive segment?
People won't have to wait an hour or two.
Thoughts on that?
Yes.
So we are actually working on a bunch of new tech for the website.
We're going to be redoing the graphic design and building everything out.
And one of them is going to be essentially what you've just said, as well as other technology we're going to open source and provide to other people so they can have the same access as we do.
And, uh, I don't know if that, what does that make me?
I'm like a lefty libertarian, right?
I'm going to free the codean.
We're going to make code that can benefit all these other people that they can use on their websites.
And we're going to give it away for free.
ian crossland
And then we're going to start a civilization on Mars with it.
tim pool
I guess, maybe.
TitanTech90 says, I went to high school at Papio South, and we were the Titans.
We got Denzel and the original Titans coach, Boone, to come visit when we opened.
You look great, brother.
Keep up the great work.
ethan suplee
Thank you very much.
tim pool
Ashley Parrish says, whenever I see Ethan, all I hear is The Tuna, one of my favorite movies.
You look fantastic, and now if I didn't know it was you, I would never guess it was you.
ethan suplee
That has been funny.
There have been a few instances where people have been in arguments online saying I'm not me.
She's a little weird.
tim pool
Transformation, man.
ethan suplee
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean that photo from your Instagram where it's like you before and then after and you're like standing tall and flexing.
It's like you look totally different.
ethan suplee
Yeah.
tim pool
It's like the other one is, you know, a marshmallow.
The other one's a Viking warrior.
ethan suplee
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Let's see.
tim pool
Oh yeah, Thinking Out Loud mentions, uh, NFT crypto art.
Beeple made 3.5 million in December.
New art auction today on Christie's currently at 2.2 million expires in 14 days.
So what is that?
It's...
ethan suplee
I don't know how it works, but it's art tied into, I believe they use Ethereum, but it's some blockchain.
I don't know how it works at all, but it's a piece of art that you store in your wallet and ultimately nobody can take it away from you.
It can't be seized.
tim pool
I mean it works because people want to store a value.
ethan suplee
I'm saying I don't know how it's fabricated.
tim pool
A lot of art is people buying something so that the money they have sits in a hard asset, you know?
AlternativeJK says, Oh snap!
Shoutout to Ethan Suplee on Timcast IRL.
I was gonna say it's Vince from Art School Confidential, but I'll keep it subtle.
By the way, I'm digging everyone's fashion sense tonight.
What a Thursday, and now I finish fanboying.
Oh man, Rudy C. Winslow says, Ethan, you abused a clown in Vulgar.
You were in Vulgar.
ethan suplee
I was.
tim pool
Dude, I saw that movie and I was like, what the fuck is this movie?
Was that Kevin Smith?
ethan suplee
It was, uh, no.
Um, did you ever see this show, um, Comic Book Guys?
ian crossland
Yeah, I love that show.
ethan suplee
It was one of those guys.
ian crossland
Wait, is that Kevin and his friends?
ethan suplee
Kevin, it was the comic book shop that Kevin opened.
unidentified
Yeah.
ethan suplee
And then one of the guys in that directed Vulgar.
unidentified
Oh.
ethan suplee
Yeah.
ian crossland
Which guy?
I don't know.
unidentified
I wouldn't know my name.
ian crossland
I haven't seen it in a while.
ethan suplee
Yeah.
I've never seen it, so I don't know how to describe it.
ian crossland
It's hilarious.
It's like a bunch of guys sitting around.
ethan suplee
Brian McJohnson, yeah.
tim pool
Alright, we'll just do a couple more here.
Tyler Toth says, Hey Ethan, can you give some insight on working on The Ranch?
One of my favorite shows.
Cheers.
ethan suplee
A lot of fun.
I think, you know, it's this odd thing in Hollywood where sitcoms are kind of looked down upon a little bit because multi-camera shows came out and were so kind of creative and interesting that people kind of stopped thinking well of sitcoms.
As a human being, sitcoms are much easier to make and you live a better life.
So, I mean, that's what I have to say about The Ranch.
It was a lot of fun to do.
tim pool
Paul S says, a My Name is Earl spinoff with Ethan as the lead would be better.
And a smiley face.
unidentified
Yes!
tim pool
Alright, last one.
Chef Gap says, love the stream, Tim.
You guys, gals should have an episode talking about Magic the Gathering.
No, just political.
Well, we're planning on doing a gaming channel and everything too.
We actually got a streaming rig set up, so we're getting there.
I guess the main challenge is we can only work as hard as a human being can work and we need more human beings.
So I will tell you, I think I'm looking now for like two journalists and probably some developers, but we still have to suss out what the full plan is going to be before we can get to that point.
unidentified
Tim actually got me a little Magic the Gathering gift.
ian crossland
Today Bob Ross original art.
tim pool
So excited.
ian crossland
It's beautiful.
tim pool
Magic the Gathering is a card game.
One of the core components are called land cards and they took Bob Ross paintings for the art on the cards and it's got Bob Ross's name and it is beautiful.
It is incredible.
Happy little mistakes.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for hanging out.
We're gonna be jumping over to the exclusive members-only segment in a little bit, so make sure you follow me on all social media at TimCast.
Check out my other YouTube channels, youtube.com slash TimCast, youtube.com slash TimCastNews.
We do this show on IRL live, Monday through Friday at 8 p.m., but we are on all podcast platforms, so leave us a good review, you know, shout us out on these platforms, give us all the good stars and all that.
But don't forget to like, share, comment, and subscribe to this channel as well, but seriously, sharing is the best thing you can do.
It's greatly appreciated.
And we'll see you all in the next show.
But Ethan, you want to shout out anything in particular, your podcast?
ethan suplee
I have a podcast called American Glutton, and you can see images of me on Instagram at EthanSuppli.
tim pool
There you go.
luke rudkowski
So right now I am posting and memeing about the current situation in Syria on LukeWeAreChange on Instagram and Twitter.
If you want to support me, you can on TheBestPoliticalShirts.com, and I'm pretty close to 700,000 YouTube subscribers on my main YouTube channel, WeAreChange, and if we could get to that milestone, it would mean absolutely nothing, but I would smile for a little bit.
It'll be cool.
So thanks so much for having me.
ian crossland
I'm Ian Crossland.
You can follow me at iancrossland.net.
If you'd like to see me play video games with my friends as well, you can follow me on Twitch at iancrossland.tv.
Is that right?
No, no, it's twitch.tv slash iancrossland.
I'm a gorilla.
Buy a t-shirt.
lydia smith
Oh yeah, there you go.
And I am Sour Patch Lids on Twitter, and I am Real Sour Patch Lids on Instagram and Gab, and Sour Patch Lids on Mines.
tim pool
We're gonna talk about some Hollywood stuff, I think, in the exclusive members-only segment.
I got so many questions, but there's also some stuff happening with Lady Gaga.
I know a lot of people probably say, oh, we don't care about Lady Gaga, but this, I think, is fairly important, so we'll talk about this.
Thanks for hanging out, and we'll see you over at TimCast.com.
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