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Timcast IRL - Democrats Try To STRIP Biden Of Sole Nuclear Authority w/Drew Holden
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ian crossland
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you you
the other day we were talking on the show and Luke mentioned he saw some
tim pool
report about us diplomats getting swabbed in the bum bum by China.
And it turns out it's a real story.
unidentified
U.S.
tim pool
diplomats were going to China and China gave them the infamous COVID-19 butt swab.
And the U.S.
is extremely angry about it.
But come on, what's Joe Biden going to do?
unidentified
He's going to be like, hey, look here, you know, China, I'll do whatever you say.
tim pool
And that's what's gonna happen.
The U.S.
is entirely shifting its focus away from China, even after things like this, towards Russia, Syria.
Sanctions on Russia are coming.
Joe Biden just launched an airstrike on Syria.
And all of a sudden, all these Democrats are like, actually, this time it's okay, even though many of them were saying that Donald Trump had no authority to do this.
Not Joe Biden, does it?
And this is proportional.
Great.
Well, look, my respect to the progressives who are calling out Joe Biden really angry because they were like, yo, I voted for you to get me a check not to blow up kids in a foreign country.
But I'm kind of like, you know, we warned you, man.
And all I can really say is welcome to the fight.
Thank you for pushing back on this insanity.
And I agree with you.
Joe Biden's supposed to be giving Americans COVID relief.
He's not doing that.
So we got those stories.
We got this crazy story about a giant golden Trump at CPAC that's making everybody, I don't know, Angry, actually.
Like, even conservatives are getting mad at the absurdity of this golden idol of Trump.
And then we have some other funny stories.
We'll see what we get to.
There was one where apparently American Airlines reported a strange cylindrical object floating over it.
So, military weapon?
Aliens?
We'll see.
Hanging out with us today, we got Drew Holden.
How's it going, man?
You want to introduce yourself?
drew holden
Yeah, hey guys, my name's Drew.
I'm back on the program, really excited about it.
You may know me from Twitter for being the annoying guy with all the lists.
If you've seen the list emoji, I use it far too often, the thread emoji, and I'm happy to be here talking about a lot of stuff.
Obviously, we've had a lot of hypocrisy afoot lately, and so it's always good talking about liberal hypocrisy, I find.
There's usually enough of it to go around.
tim pool
There's just so much.
It's like mining, and then it's just there.
drew holden
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, it's like, this one's easy, isn't it?
drew holden
Yeah, it's always like you hit an oil well, in a lot of ways.
Because all you gotta do is turn and just look back a little bit, right?
Sometimes months.
lydia smith
Six weeks, yeah.
drew holden
Yeah, six weeks, couple of months, sometimes a year or two.
But as long as you go back far enough, you can always find something that was just patently ridiculous.
And the latest, of course, we have the cereal.
unidentified
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
Well, thanks so much for joining us.
And just to begin off here, I would humbly like to say that I feel like Nostradamus today.
We were talking about these, I don't know why people call them swabs.
They're really probes.
They go inside of you three inches.
Important talking point here when describing what just happened to the U.S.
diplomats.
So yeah, I was talking about it yesterday.
We were talking about it weeks ago.
I said it was going to be expanded.
I was talking about it years ago on my independent media channel, WeAreChange.
And if you would like more Nostradamus-like content, you can get it on WeAreChange.org.
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Thanks so much for having me.
ian crossland
And you know me, everybody.
Ian Crosland, what's up?
Coming at you.
IanCrosland.net.
And Drew, I'm glad you're here.
We can rip apart the liberal economic order.
I don't know if you're familiar with that.
And the derangement of the term liberty.
That's been coerced in a bit.
Thanks for joining, man.
Good to see you guys.
drew holden
Pleasure's mine.
Pleasure's mine.
lydia smith
And then I'm in the corner pushing buttons for these guys and this is gonna be a wild conversation.
I hope you guys are ready for this.
tim pool
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lydia smith
Hi, Brad.
tim pool
We were like, should we talk about Joe Biden and the nuclear code?
Very serious.
And then Luke was like, we got to talk about the Chinese shoving stuff up US diplomats' butts.
And I said, I don't know if it's the most important story in the world, but it's certainly entertaining.
luke rudkowski
Well, we were talking about this story.
I mean, I came in here.
I was like, do you guys believe this is happening?
And I went off on a tangent.
I was very elaborative about it.
And you thought this was a joke.
drew holden
Yeah.
I was like, man, this guy and his metaphors.
It's hitting, it's gripping.
I'm like, God, I wonder what the diplomats are talking about.
What was this?
luke rudkowski
Mainstream media news.
unidentified
U.S.
luke rudkowski
official asks China to not subject their staff to COVID Bum bum.
Behind probes that go inside of you.
And of course, the Chinese response was very telling at first.
They were like, no, no, this never happened.
I don't know what you guys are talking about.
They denied it.
Now they're saying, oh, this was done in error and we promise it won't be ever done again.
tim pool
So here's what happened.
The State Department's pissed.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
We have a story from the Hill.
State Department says it never agreed to China giving U.S.
diplomats COVID-19 anal tests.
They say Chinese officials who forced — they forced American diplomats to undergo bum-bum swabs for COVID-19 did so in error.
The State Department told The Hill on Thursday, as Beijing denies it conducted the tests at all.
The Washington Post reported last week that U.S.
officials had said some American personnel in China complained that they were being subjected to anal swab tests for coronavirus by Chinese authorities.
This is so obvious what they're doing.
They're doing this to subjugate and humiliate.
What they're doing makes no sense.
ian crossland
They're going to clone him.
luke rudkowski
Well, it depends.
tim pool
With what?
luke rudkowski
The DNA?
No, no, no.
ian crossland
The DNA from the body.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I think it's part of that.
I'm kidding.
No, no, no, no, no.
Ian is onto something.
unidentified
Yeah, you're right.
luke rudkowski
Because there was official US government sources coming ... out just a few days ago talking about how China was ... trying to get the covid test that were used in order to get ... DNA samples from Americans so they could better ... predictively predict the market and dominated in the ... pharma industrial complex game yes I'm not kidding you.
China now is on this huge rampage of them trying to get as much information as they can.
They understand information is the new oil.
They've been on this huge race trying to get as much as they can because they know, hey, if we get everyone's DNA, we're going to know what they're going to get sick of in the future.
That we're going to know what ailments are going to ... have we're going to know what pills to make what medicine to ... make to sell it back to the United States at a cheaper ... profit that we're going to mass-produce and we're going ... to outcompete the other competitors in this larger ... pharma industrial complex so this was a legit thing that ... they're talking about and there's a reason politicians ... bring their own toilets when they visit other countries the ... information you get from your you know what.
Toilet?
unidentified
Bum bum.
Stool.
luke rudkowski
extremely important and and many politicians literally I mean there's
unidentified
No.
luke rudkowski
there's reasons Secret Service literally has a detail probably ones with the bad
political opinions but the Secret Service has a detail that that is in
charge of collecting the president's poop to make sure a foreign country
doesn't get it because if they do they'll yes yep I'm telling you so this
is this is this is more than just ridicule in my opinion It wouldn't surprise me if these larger butt probes were done in a way to get the DNA of U.S.
diplomats in some kind of larger information grab that, of course, the Chinese will use to their advantage in their fifth generational warfare, larger propaganda efforts that they're in charge of.
So yeah, a lot of this stuff is real.
I've been talking about this for years.
People have been looking at me like you're crazy.
I'm like, they're going into your Beehinds!
Watch your beehinds!
For years!
I'm like, oh, you're kidding.
You're just jo- I'm like, I'm not joking!
Like, I'm telling you, this is coming.
And this little thing with the diplomats is only going to, of course, be the start of this since they're going to be expanding this and other countries are going to recognize, hey, you can get everyone's DNA.
unidentified
Let's get it.
tim pool
We got a fact check.
They don't go around collecting the president's poop because they're scared of people collecting it.
They bring secure, portable toilets for the president for security reasons.
Yes.
Because if the president's, like, in a mall bathroom or whatever, it's like, it's a security risk.
luke rudkowski
Another risk is, of course, people getting information on the president from the inside of the poop.
tim pool
Does make sense.
Luke is correct.
From NPR, China wants your DNA and may already have it.
lydia smith
I saw that go by.
tim pool
They say, as COVID cases begin to rise a year ago, a Chinese company contacted several U.S.
states and offered to set up testing labs.
As a byproduct, the Chinese firm Beijing Genomics Institute would likely gain access to the DNA of those tested.
The offer was tempting for states struggling to set up their own testing facilities for a new virus
in short notice, but US national security officials urged the states to reject the offer,
citing concerns about how China might use personal data collected on Americans.
Quote, We certainly reached out to our partners and the community to make sure people were aware
that the Chinese were pushing out these tests, informing them of what the risks were,
and really asking them not to take the tests, said Mike Orlando, the head of the National
Counterintelligence and Security Center, which is part of the office of the director of national
intelligence.
As far as I know, they all turned them down.
So there's actually a bunch of stories about this.
They've been trying to get access to American DNA.
ian crossland
Have you guys ever used those 23andMe tests?
drew holden
Yeah, it's the same idea.
ian crossland
I've never taken them.
Have you guys, have you taken them before?
drew holden
No, my brother did recently though, so I guess all my DNA is out there.
ian crossland
Yep, you're in.
I just don't, I don't know if it's a big deal, but I don't want to speed up the process if it might be, so I just haven't.
luke rudkowski
No, it's a huge deal.
tim pool
This is crazy.
From Newsweek, China wants your DNA and it's up to no good.
From Gordon G Chang, an author, this is from November of 2020, and he says, Why does China want such sensitive data?
Beijing is determined to dominate the biotech industry.
Beijing may also be developing biological weapons designed to target certain ethnic groups. Yep. I had that I had that
luke rudkowski
in my list I was waiting to talk about that because again, we have to
understand it's not just the pharma industrial complex That's going to be screwed over if China gets all of our
DNA That's going to outbid them and know what people are gonna
be sick of and know what the demand is in the big pharma markets
But it's also bio weapons that of course could be used could be genetically engineered to specifically go after
Individuals with a specific genotype and only affect them So this is larger biological warfare stuff that of course
is is being studied being conducted a lot of it The United States is paying for but a lot of it is ending
up in the hands of the Chinese which is absolutely perplexing mind-boggling and
and infuriating to find out.
I mean, Dr. Fauci was literally responsible and was one of the bigger founders behind that Level 3, Level Wuhan laboratory inside of China.
Not many people want to talk about this, but they were doing gain-of-function data studies on the coronaviruses linked to bats, specifically talking about how they can engineer them.
Again, not trying to come up with any theories here.
I'm just stating some facts that were talked about by the US mainstream media and admitted to them.
I'm not jumping to any conclusions.
But it's an important fact to understand here that this did happen.
drew holden
I mean, New Yorker had a piece that explored this concept, right?
And I think one of the things that we probably don't give China enough credit for is they are evaluating different ways of fighting asymmetric warfare, of thinking about ways that they can get a jump on the United States, and that's everything from building new battleships to exploring the ways that they can use biological weapons and biological tools.
tim pool
And exploring the rectums of these U.S.
drew holden
diplomats.
Speaking of exploring, Tim, I'm also with you, I think, on your earlier point, too, because I think some of this is just a power game, right?
I'm reminded of how during the Cold War, the U.S.
State Department—this is back when we were tough and good at things, I think, a long, long time ago in U.S.
foreign policy—the Russia desk would only hire diplomats from the United States who were men who were over six feet, because they wanted to make sure that There is a better chance that they would be able to physically look down on their Russian counterparts.
unidentified
Wow.
lydia smith
Psychological?
drew holden
So much of it is... I mean, think about it.
It's just a giant game of chess.
At least as far as the State Department sees the world.
So much of it is just a big chess game, and so why not have every advantage you can?
tim pool
But think about this too.
Like, China has no shame.
They want to win, and they'll do whatever it takes.
drew holden
Exactly.
tim pool
Even looking in the butts of our diplomats.
And I know it's funny, but this is serious too, because we wouldn't do that for the most part.
The United States probably isn't even thinking about having someone open up, you know, spread their cheeks and then take a sample.
But China knows there's things we'll learn and secrets we'll gain access to by understanding the diets, the gut biomes of these people.
And if they can produce some look we know that like gut bacteria is very important
What if they're thinking can we craft something that all just it's a detriment to American diet gut bacteria
And that causes Americans to become bloated and tired. It's a hypothetical. Well, there's a lot you can learn from this
ian crossland
Sickle cell anemia notoriously was harming the African-American population for whatever reason.
It's not a fecal, it's not like a bacterial disease.
It's a blood disease.
It might be.
lydia smith
It's formed genetically.
So it's part of the, I think it's part of the blood cells, part of the shape of the African-American blood cell.
And it is different.
It is based on the genome.
And I was actually talking, I've talked to people who have advanced scientific degrees This is one of those conversations you can't have, but they did tell me you can design things that only attack certain genomes.
They only attack certain races.
This is something China has thought about.
Americans don't think about it.
Chinese think about everything.
They thought about our kids with TikTok.
They're thinking about bioweapons, maybe possibly with COVID.
I don't know.
We're not conspiring here, but...
luke rudkowski
Well, the U.S.
has been talking about bioweapons, especially with some classified documentation that came out for a very long time, ever since the Vietnam War.
Now, as far as how clandestine and how overt they are, we don't know, because a lot of it is clandestine.
A lot of it is something that we don't know.
There's no transparency.
There's no accountability.
Whether on China, they just do everything out in the open, but also with, you know, you have to understand, you could get someone's DNA from a nose swab.
You could also get it from a behind swab, not a swab, a probe.
You can get it from a butt probe as well.
So they most likely, now the Chinese, have a whole bunch of DNA samples on all the U.S.
diplomats that willingly took their pants off when the Chinese government said, take them off!
And they did, which is, I mean, just imagine being a U.S.
diplomat and just saying, yeah, sure, China, here.
tim pool
Instead of being like, I'll get on a plane and leave right now.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, right.
Instead of having some like dignity and saying, hey, no, no, you're not sticking anything up my butt.
I'm sorry.
Like, like, like have some courage here.
The U.S.
State Department had to release.
tim pool
Trust the science.
That's what it's all about.
You got to trust science.
Are you saying you hate science?
luke rudkowski
Canada is your friend.
Yeah.
ian crossland
So science is a big hammer.
And if you use it improperly, you can do a lot of harm with it.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, it's gross.
drew holden
It is stuff.
tim pool
Do you think I want to get an asymmetrical warfare?
ian crossland
Yeah, I'm gonna interview with one of these diplomats and just hear it from their own mouths.
tim pool
They'll be like, rocking back and forth.
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
Yeah.
drew holden
And that's the thing, too.
luke rudkowski
Like, his hands are cold.
drew holden
At what point would they just kind of look to their supervisor superior and be like, dude, Do we have to do this?
Like, at one point was somebody just like, you know, actually, we're going to call back to the embassy.
We're going to check on this one real quick.
Give us five minutes.
ian crossland
What is it like for US diplomats?
Are they like under the finger of the Communist Party when they're over there?
drew holden
That's a good question.
Probably not.
I would assume not only because they spend so much time on American properties, right, on embassies and consulates.
The interesting thing, though, this is something I could have expected from the American media, because they very much live under the thumb of Beijing while they're over there.
But you would think that the American diplomatic corps would have a little bit more dignity, a little bit more self-esteem, and a little bit more of an ability to push back and say, no, no, we're not going to do this.
But listen, we're living in strange times.
tim pool
America's becoming weak.
drew holden
Yes.
tim pool
There's a big metaphor here.
It's easy for Biden to be like, I'm going to bomb Syria.
Because what's Syria going to do about it?
And we go up against Russia because Russia could fight back to a certain degree, but ultimately, what are they going to do about it?
China?
luke rudkowski
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
We can't fight China.
They'll win.
And they're winning.
That's the scary reality of everything that's going on.
drew holden
And I think so much of it is they want to see, and this to me more than anything else is, they want to see what they can get away with.
In so many ways, this is just a microcosm of the sorts of things that they're doing in the South China Sea, the sorts of things they're doing in Tibet, the sorts of things that they're doing investing in Africa and Eastern Europe.
This is a power play, right?
So much of this is a power play, and it's how far can we push the big guy on the block, the United States, and get away with doing this kind of stuff?
And if we can keep doing this, right?
If the Belt and Road program can run through traditional U.S.
allies across Africa, if we can muscle our way into Tibet, if we can muscle our way into Hong Kong, Why can't we do some rear-end swabs on US diplomats?
Why isn't that the next step?
tim pool
It's incremental.
It sounds silly to a lot of people.
They probably don't think it's that big of a deal, but it's just one more grain of sand making a bigger heap where China says, we can do whatever we want.
We can go to an American and say, take off your pants and bend over right now.
And they'll go, yes, sir.
Yes, no problem, sir.
ian crossland
When I first heard it, I think yesterday, maybe you brought it up.
luke rudkowski
I was bringing it up yesterday.
I heard about it.
I was looking at the sources like, we need to confirm this.
We were talking about this a few weeks ago.
A few weeks ago, we were saying, hey, China has developed a new way to test for COVID and it's going up your buttocks three inches to swab you.
And I'm like, this is not what you think it is.
It's coming.
It's going to be expanded.
And now here we are today.
Sorry, Ian.
ian crossland
It almost like washed over me yesterday.
I was just like, oh, well, Whatever.
Let's go.
I'm not surprised.
But they lied about it.
They lied.
They lied about it big time.
That's really a big deal, man.
This is bad.
tim pool
No?
It's a decay.
It's just like everything seems to be heading down into the crapper.
Pun intended.
drew holden
Yeah, that's right.
unidentified
I was going to say.
drew holden
And so much of this too is, it's China stepping back and not just pushing to see where they can go, forgive the pun, but probing where the weaknesses are.
Right?
Where are the vulnerabilities?
Where are the places where U.S.
diplomats don't have a level head about them in terms of the decisions they're going to make, the power that they're going to stand up against, and the things that they're unwilling to do?
tim pool
And I think the more they do that... I want to use this to jump to the next segment.
We'll talk about the weakness of the United States.
So we have this story that came up a little while ago from Military.com.
Dozens of House Democrats call on Biden to give up sole nuclear launch authority.
This is crazy, but it shouldn't be unexpected.
Joe Biden is He's not all with it.
I think that's fair to say.
There's been reports that Kamala Harris has been doing his job for him because he's been napping in the sun, as I predicted.
Yeah, she's talking to foreign leaders on his behalf or whatever.
And now they're saying, we think Joe Biden should give up sole power to launch nuclear weapons.
And you know what?
I agree.
I don't think a senile old crackpot should be holding nuclear football.
ian crossland
Give it up to who?
tim pool
To open it up to other people.
Now, that's a problem.
Who are these other people?
Maybe... You know what?
This is the problem of having, you know, a president who's in only because people hated the other guy.
Clearly, right now, you've got all the Democrats complaining.
Well, not all of them.
I'm sorry.
All of the progressives complaining about Biden.
Some of the Democrats.
But many of them just saying, Biden can do no wrong!
drew holden
Right.
tim pool
You get a president who's based on hating the other guy.
And he's basically... What's the difference?
You know, a lot of people say, like, you know, he's gonna do a lot of the same foreign policy things.
He's actually doing worse.
People are worried now we're gonna lose this peace we're developing in the Middle East.
He's gonna destabilize everything.
But I'm sorry, he is a senile old crackpot.
who was elected without the ability to be president and now democrats are saying he
ian crossland
should give up the sole power of the nuclear launch. He just bombed Syria. Okay, let me just
get this out really quick. I don't know much about this bombing of Syria. I read some mainstream news
articles from NBC and some other and they were like, it's in retaliation to Iran.
Okay, obviously NBC is going to say that.
The other one was, this is actually a perverse way of improving diplomatic relations with Iran because it's going to be forcing them to the, whatever.
It's sickening.
I'm sorry.
tim pool
Well, so let me read some of this story from military.com.
They say nearly three dozen House Democrats are urging President Joe Biden to relinquish his sole authority to order the launch of nuclear weapons, arguing that no single person should wield apocalyptic military power.
They say vesting one person with this authority entails real risks.
Past presidents have threatened to attack other countries with nuclear weapons or exhibited behavior that causes other officials to express concerns about the president's judgment, according to the letter, which was spearheaded by California reps Jimmy Panetta and Ted Lieu.
Now, interestingly, Nancy Pelosi tried doing this with Donald Trump in I believe it was what like it after November Yeah, she went to the Joint Chiefs.
I believe it was the Joint Chiefs and she said Block Trump's ability to order missile strikes and they said ma'am that would be a military coup.
We can't do that The commander-in-chief has the ability to fire the nukes.
They're taking this away.
Who would get it?
It sounds to me like Look, it's gonna say as cliche as possible.
All of these things are just ripping this country into a million pieces That's it.
luke rudkowski
Well, you know, I never agree with politicians, but these politicians make sense.
When they're talking about one person on this earth that has the power to press one button and end the human race, I'm sorry, that's a little bit too much power.
When we're going to be engaging in nuclear war, we're engaging in a war that's going to end civilizations as we know it.
And I agree with these Democrats.
I never thought I would say this, but I agree on the merits here.
I don't agree.
I do.
I think it should be decentralized.
I think definitely it shouldn't be one senile old man who doesn't know where he is half the time.
Sometimes.
tim pool
So that's a problem of Joe Biden.
But then the issue is you're creating exponentially more vulnerabilities with each individual.
You'll give the ability to press a button.
Let's put it this way.
You got Joe Biden as a senile little crackpot, and that freaks me out, because he might press the button and fire a nuke.
They said Donald Trump was sporadic and erratic, and he might press the button and launch a nuke.
That's still only two people.
Add ten more people, and now you gotta keep track of each and every one of them who might launch a nuke.
ian crossland
It'd be cool if you needed all of them to agree.
drew holden
Well, I think that that's my question, too, is what is the...
tim pool
No, that can't work either.
drew holden
Is the alternative that we have just a bunch of different checks and balances, if you will, before you can fire the nuke?
Because really, if that's the case, eh, I guess that makes sense.
But if you start truly federalizing the nuclear launch codes and really start having that many hands in the kitchen...
tim pool
Here's what's gonna happen.
The Chinese communist dictator, you know, Xi Jinping is going to be like, I can launch all of the nuclear weapons, and they will have no time to retaliate.
We win.
We win.
China will succeed, our cities will be fine, and every nuke will explode over America before they even realize it.
ian crossland
I guess you could automate a defensive response and only, you know, federate the offensive to like six people that need to agree and turn a key at the same time.
tim pool
There's something really convenient about just having one.
There's a reason why we have a president who is the commander-in-chief.
It's so that we can respond quickly and instantly to serious militaristic threats.
luke rudkowski
Well, maybe just add one more person that's sound mind that's next to him.
tim pool
So this is the problem.
luke rudkowski
So what?
tim pool
They give us a crackpot president and use it as an excuse to disseminate the launch codes to a bunch of other people?
ian crossland
When we gave the president the power like that, we didn't have world-ending weapons at the push of a button.
tim pool
No, we did.
When we created the nuclear weapons, we were like, Mr. President, they're yours.
ian crossland
When we created the Office of the President and gave them all that executive power, we didn't have nuclear weapons that could end the human race.
tim pool
So the problem is, unless you can answer me this, when China and Russia know, as autocrats, they can snap their fingers and bluff the U.S.
and we can't respond, what defense do we have?
ian crossland
I don't think Biden could respond anyway.
He'd probably be sleeping.
tim pool
I know!
I know.
ian crossland
You need an automated response.
tim pool
You're not making it better by giving more people the launch codes.
The problem is we are in a very seriously dangerous position because Joe Biden is a pathetic senile old crackpot.
I'm being a little hyperbolic, but let's be real.
No, you're right.
ian crossland
It's showing the cracks in the system.
tim pool
So now you've got Vladimir Putin.
What is he?
He's former KGB, right?
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
tim pool
And he's riding on a horse with no shirt on.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
ian crossland
A bear, I thought.
tim pool
And he's so brutal.
I mean, look at the dude who's trying to run against him and gets poisoned all the time.
drew holden
Yeah, Navalny.
ian crossland
Mysterious.
All the time.
tim pool
This guy is probably laughing his ass off like Joe Biden.
drew holden
Yeah.
tim pool
What's he gonna do?
drew holden
It really does beg the question of, if we don't trust him with this, with this responsibility of a president, right?
Because that's all, like, we can fight about who, whose it should be, but if this is a duly charged role of the president, and we can't trust him to do this, then what else can't we trust him to do, right?
In what other settings does he not, is he not someone we want to be presidential?
If we can't trust him to be the only one with his finger on the trigger for the nuclear buttons, do we trust him one-on-one in a room with Xi Jinping or with Putin?
Yeah.
I mean, again, as he was pointing out, the people who know this want to do us harm.
luke rudkowski
Well, this is the thing.
The vulnerability is there, whether it's two people or not, because of Joe Biden.
I made the shirt that I'm wearing right now months ago, and it says, I'm Joe Biden and I forgot this message.
This sentiment was true months before the election.
It was true every time he got on stage.
There's a reason they kept him in the basement.
There's a reason he didn't do many public speaking events.
He does a lot of gaffes.
He messes up a lot of the time.
Sometimes he messes up the locations where he's actually in.
And that's extremely concerning for the man that literally has his finger on the button and could end the world with one click.
ian crossland
I want to make an observation.
It's not Biden that's the problem.
It's the cognitive decline of the human brain that's the problem.
And that's going to be no matter what.
tim pool
What's Cyber Biden?
We need to get Elon Musk to Neuralink Biden.
Just give him a tune up.
Could you imagine?
luke rudkowski
And then Elon Musk has the nuclear launch code.
tim pool
I'm sorry.
George Alexopoulos has an image of this.
So the paintings you guys see on the walls behind everybody is George Alexopoulos.
And one of his memes is Biden sitting in this chair with like an electrode helmet attached to his head.
And he's like drooling as children are being fed to him.
It's a real piece of art.
It's hilarious.
But I'm kidding.
We're not going to make Cyber Biden.
But it is a good point.
The ultimate problem I see with this is this office is important and powerful for a reason.
You have Congress.
They legislate.
They're slow, and nobody likes them.
They're not meant to respond very, very quickly when we're being attacked.
The president can declare a state of emergency and take unilateral action, and that's their excuse for bombing Syria, which is dumb because Syria's not doing anything to us.
The problem is, they hated Trump so much that they were like, we would rather have... Listen, I'm gonna stop.
They said, when Donald Trump got elected, you know, there's a lot of Republicans saying, you're attacking the pilot of the plane because you don't like the way he talks over the intercom, you're gonna make the plane crash.
They hated Trump so much, because as he's flying the plane, he gets in the intercom and he won't shut up, and you're like, just stop, right?
So then some...
doting you know some dotard is sitting there drooling all over himself and like I want him to fly the plane and
Now they put it the sleepy creepy Joe who's sitting in the pilot seat drooling on himself sleeping in the planes going
Like falling down and they're like better than the guy yelling at us for you know the entire plane ride and right
luke rudkowski
he had two brain aneurysms my goodness, I mean
Yeah Also, the timing of this is very important because this letter came out right before he unilaterally decided to launch airstrikes on Syria.
Of course, without constitutional approval, without congressional authorization, And according to many, illegal under international law, but really just continuing the policy that Barack Obama codified in 2014 and just bombed another country without any kind of oversight, transparency, or even accountability.
tim pool
It's for natural gas.
Biden says no Keystone Pipeline in America, but Qatar Turkey Pipeline in Syria!
See, it's okay when foreign contractors go and build gas pipelines in other countries that we're blowing up.
Not okay when American workers do it.
And it's kind of like, you know, I mentioned this before, they love outsourcing jobs, they love outsourcing factories, and then they don't want any of it here.
It's almost like a not-in-my-backyard thing.
Oh, we want the oil, we want the gas, but not in my backyard.
drew holden
Even from a pipeline?
Right?
That's the other thing, too, is the richest part.
Yeah, no, it's insane.
And, like, listen, it's got to hurt of all of the people who it probably stings for, these strikes, it has to hurt the worst for Neera Tanden, who famously said that we are going to attack Libya to take the oil.
And now she is seeing us attack Syria for no good reason.
And she's probably, like, her eyes are probably lighting up with dollar signs at the very thought of it.
And yet her confirmation is going to get railroaded because she's Because she tweeted a bunch of really dumb things.
Yeah, that, but also she's by all indications a bad person.
She punched a reporter one time, which I don't think you're supposed to do.
And perhaps one of the most awful things, even if you just look at it the way that the Dems see the world, but I think the way that we all see the world too, is she, in an all-staff meeting, she outed one of her employees at CAP when she worked there at the think tank.
For bringing charges of sexual harassment against their boss.
And so as they were, as they were talking about it, she just outed this, this, this private concern and complaint.
tim pool
Um, the people, the people who are, who are look, man, the federal government is just a swamp.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And, and there's like a tiny handful of people who are stepping through the swamp that are okay.
But for the most part, it's a swamp.
Trump did not drain the swamp.
The swamp is just murkier than ever.
And Joe Biden's back in, he is a swamp monster.
drew holden
Yeah.
And think about it.
He's got so many people that he's inherited who are former Biden or Obama alums.
And they're like, what have they been doing for the last four years since they left the Obama White House?
tim pool
Swamping Trump?
drew holden
Or they've just been making a bunch of money working in Washington.
And so they've only gotten more swampy, right?
They've only cycled out and now cycled back in.
luke rudkowski
We also have to acknowledge the fact that three last sitting presidents bombed Syria without any congressional authorization.
The last time Donald Trump did it, Jen Psaki tweeted, by the way, in 2017, quote, also, what is the legal authority for strikes?
Assad is a brutal dictator, but Syria is a sovereign country.
Gee, Jen, yes, of course he is.
Joe Biden even tweeted that Trump was erratic, impulsive, and it's the last thing a commander-in-chief should do when, of course, Donald Trump bombed Syria because his daughter cried.
Ivanka Trump cried to him and told him to do it after the alleged chemical weapons attack, which there have been some very serious questions about and a lot of evidence countering.
All the information, but the big thing here we have to understand here is when Donald Trump bombed Syria, there was at least some kind of fake attempt to frame some kind of evidence.
They tried.
They did it very poorly.
It was fact-checked to be wrong, but now there's no evidence.
Where's the information?
Where's the WMDs?
Where's the justification for this that allowed the United States to do this?
They usually put on a horse and pony show right before launching another strike.
They didn't even do that this time!
They didn't say there was a threat.
They didn't show any evidence.
They didn't highlight anything that could have justified this.
We still don't know.
tim pool
Let's jump to this thread from Drew on this Democrat hypocrisy.
But I want to start by saying this, ladies and gentlemen.
This is the end.
What we're seeing, the utter hypocrisy from Democrats and media pundits, cannot survive.
Progressives are already tweeting, smack-talking the Democratic establishment and the media establishment.
Obviously not every single one, but many of them are saying, we did not vote for this.
There's one Twitter account that's getting memed around like crazy because they were like, I'm deactivating my account.
I did not realize Biden would do this.
This is wrong.
We didn't want war.
He lied to us.
I think about Barack Obama.
He did the same thing.
But there was no Twitter.
drew holden
Right.
tim pool
So what happens is, we can see the hypocrisy.
We can see Jen Psaki, press secretary, saying, under what authority is Donald Trump bombing Syria?
What about now?
When Joe Biden, 36 days in, does the same thing.
We can see all of these Democrats, and it is stamped in our minds.
So what happens now is the younger generation, they're going to see these tweets and be like, yeah, these people lied.
That's it.
War is bad.
We don't want this.
I say this at the end.
What I mean is that the establishment's stranglehold and ability to keep lying is weakening.
I'm optimistic in this regard.
I've asked, how is it that so many people still fall for the mainstream media?
They're probably older people watching TV.
Younger people aren't.
Now, many of these younger people probably fall for garbage emotional manipulation from a lot of these leftist grifters, but let's pull this thread we have from the man himself, Drew Holden, and your tweet reads, It seems not all pointless foreign wars are created equally.
In the eyes of the Democrats, the media, and the chattering class, when Trump hit Syria was an outrage.
But under Biden?
Well, apparently things are different.
Do you want to just read through some of the tweets?
We'll show them and break it down for what you found.
drew holden
I will.
So I was going through it today and I looked and I saw a lot of the... I was reminded very quickly of what happened in 2017 and 2018 where there was enormous criticism of Donald Trump hit Syria.
I'm sure I was probably critical of it too.
I saw it and I was like, yeah, I'm not sure I'm well about this one.
tim pool
I criticized him.
I'm getting these people tweeting at me, and they're like the haters, the tribalists.
And they're like, are you gonna, you know, criticize Biden now?
You wouldn't criticize Trump.
And I was like, I did.
I criticized Trump on the Syria thing like every video.
People complained about it.
We get it, Tim, you're mad at Trump for firing Tomahawk missiles into Syria.
And I'm like, yeah, what am I gonna, I'll complain about it.
I support Tulsi Gabbard for that reason.
drew holden
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
But the tribalists are full of it.
luke rudkowski
I lost so many followers when I went after Trump for doing those moves.
He's like, no, Trump's doing the right thing.
I'm like, no.
And I remember calling him out aggressively and losing a large ton of followers.
And I was like, I don't care.
Goodbye.
And they were like, you're like CNN.
You have Trump derangement syndrome.
I'm like, no, I have principles.
Something a lot of people, you know.
tim pool
So what you discovered?
drew holden
So, what I found very quickly was that, for whatever reason, all of the people who were incredibly critical in 2017 and 2018 were not critical, or the best one, I think, the one I start off with, so usually the way I structure these is, I'll hit the members of Congress first, and then the media, and then whomever, right, Blue Jacks?
But the first one I had to start it with is a phenomenal side-by-side.
It's Lawrence O'Donnell of MSNBC fame.
Back in 2018, he had tweeted, Dear News Media, If you think Trump has constitutional authority to attack Syria, please say why.
If you're not sure, please ask the question.
Please stop using the phrase constitutional crisis, as it can only refer to firing people, not missiles.
Right?
A lot of concerns.
Very concerned was Lawrence O'Donnell then.
Lo and behold, yesterday, last night, right after all of this goes down, he tweets out a link to his upcoming show that has Ben Rhodes, failed MFA, failed short story writer turned policy wonk, apparently Ben Rhodes, and Lawrence O'Donnell tweets, Ben Rhodes has been in the room when the president orders a proportional response.
And he has him on and they talk about why this specific attack made total sense, complete and total sense.
tim pool
Well, look, Drew, you just misunderstand.
It has always been the position of the Democrats that bombing Syria is a good thing.
Now, the issue isn't that Donald Trump was bombing Syria.
The issue was that the man who ordered them happened to have been orange.
It makes sense now.
Yes, exactly.
drew holden
It's a night and day difference.
And so I think it's interesting because a lot of Democratic politicians very much went with that sort of mentality and thread.
My favorite, Nancy Pelosi, she tweeted, this is in 2017, so right after these first strikes, retweet if you agree, which is a horrible thing to put in a tweet.
In terms of a little Twitter one-on-one, please, for the love of God, don't do that.
Retweet if you agree that Congress has a responsibility to immediately debate President Trump's actions in Syria.
Which is hysterical because back then, in 2017, she had no power to bring everyone back in and force everyone to have this conversation.
She is now the Speaker of the House who could call back Congress tomorrow!
She could force them to have this conversation.
For whatever reason, no interest.
lydia smith
Huh, weird.
drew holden
But perhaps, actually, I take that back.
My favorite among elected officials has to be Barbara Lee.
She used a couple of emojis.
I think it's questionable.
It's dubious.
The first was the shouting emoji.
All capped.
Trump doesn't have the authority to have troops in Syria, much less to protect oil.
Apparently Biden does.
And then, again, Twitter 101, please don't do this.
Producing foreign oil.
Clap hands.
It is clap hands, not clap hands.
A. Clap hands, legitimate.
Clap hands, military.
Clap hands, mission.
Clap hands.
tim pool
Just do the clap.
drew holden
Stop endless war.
tim pool
Protecting foreign oil is not a legitimate military mission.
Stop endless war.
lydia smith
Thanks, I hate it.
drew holden
What the heck?
No follow-up from her.
For whatever reason.
Maybe I shouldn't turn on the news.
I don't know.
Friday is often not a working day in Congress, so maybe she just hasn't heard.
luke rudkowski
Did you try to contact them?
Be like, hey, do you have a point on this?
Do you want to say something?
drew holden
Obviously, I always tag these people whenever I tweet at them, and for whatever reason, I haven't heard anything back on those ones.
tim pool
How strange.
unidentified
What is this a proportional response to?
tim pool
There was a rocket strike on an Iraqi military base that killed an American contractor.
So Joe Biden said, I'm gonna blow him up!
luke rudkowski
Allegedly, that's what they say.
But again, we have to understand what they say is usually a lot different than what actually happened.
tim pool
And more importantly, there were reports going around as soon as Biden got in that US troop movements in Syria started escalating.
The New York Times, I believe, had the best take today.
true it's a myth that this is totally normal and then we saw you know
Middle Eastern sources saying the US is running troops through Syria yeah and
luke rudkowski
then the New York Times I believe had the best take today they had an article
that was titled US airstrike in Syria targets Iran backed militias in that
article it literally says and I quote little is known about this group
including whether it is backed by Iran What?
Literally.
Yes, that's literally what they said.
So yeah, a lot of information is very sporadic.
It's very hard to believe.
A lot of anonymous government sources are coming out and they're not putting their name behind this, but they're saying this was defensive.
unidentified
Wow.
luke rudkowski
Anonymous government source.
tim pool
Look at this, New York Times.
Little is known about the group, including whether it is backed by Iran or related to organizations that used the facilities for the American airstrikes targeted on Thursday.
Let's go right into the title.
unidentified
U.S.
tim pool
airstrikes in Syria target Iran-backed militias.
They are lying!
luke rudkowski
Clap, clap, clap!
drew holden
And this is the thing, in a lot of ways the media can speak these sorts of things into existence.
The New York Times had another story, with strikes in Syria, Biden confronts Iran's militant network.
lydia smith
Yes, I saw that.
unidentified
Right?
drew holden
It's the same thing.
If you repeat it, this is WMDs all over again, if you just repeat it over and over and over again, It becomes part of the conversation.
luke rudkowski
But another big thing to realize here, the Iranian forces in Syria are the ones that are partly responsible for crushing ISIS, al-Qaeda, and al-Nusra and other Sunni radical groups.
The Iranians are basically Shiite groups that are fighting against the Sunnis And if it wasn't for the Iranians and the Syrians working together, ISIS would still have a huge foothold inside of Syria.
So by Biden and by Donald Trump attacking the Syrian government, they're attacking the people that are stopping ISIS that's spreading radical jihadism and terrorism all over the West.
That's another point here.
Oddly, that point was forgotten by the mainstream media.
They forgot to mention that one for some strange reason.
tim pool
Under Trump, ISIS was crushed.
Is that correct?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Well, they lost a lot of their funding that was given to them by Barack Obama and Hillary
unidentified
Clinton And then he blew up the the main dude. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
luke rudkowski
Well, Russia also took a large part in that and exposed how a lot of the oil that was being you know
Siphoned in by Isis was actually traded to Turkey Russia exposed how they were as caravans working with the Turkish
military along with Isis usually financing
Terrorism Saudi Arabia Israel also financed the Sunni larger wahhabi terrorist groups in there Israel by the way
was given advance notice of this airstrike.
and they released a statement that they're very pleased that this airstrike happened in that particular region.
So there's a lot of different geopolitical things happening, but essentially,
I boil it down to the larger class of civilizations that's happening in the Middle East between the Sunnis and the Shiites.
The Sunnis, the radical Islamists, are on the side of Israel.
tim pool
So, they're saying in the media over and over again, Iran.
Iran, Iran, Iran, Iran, Iran. Deep down they say, Oh, we don't know for sure, but we're going to keep saying
their name over and over again.
So how long until we have war with Iran?
I mean, they've been trying to do this. John Bolton said, what did John Bolton say?
By this time next year, we will be celebrating in Tehran.
luke rudkowski
He was wrong on his timeline, but we have to understand what Syria is, it's not about Syria.
Syria is a larger proxy war between the United States, Russia and also China in some ways China has actually even sent some support to the Syrians China has a very close relationship with the Iranians so does Russia so there's probably going to be another proxy war just like we're seeing in Yemen just like we're seeing in Syria just like we've seen already play out in in Libya.
That's going to take place in Iran but another big thing to really kind of calculate here and understand this larger web that the military industrial complex paints to you is the fact that it was the it was the Gulf War after 2001 in 2003 when the Gulf War was launched that made Iran such a powerhouse in the Middle East region because it got rid of one of their chief competitors Iraq and their sphere of influence Actually grew they became more powerful because of the war ... in Iraq so again these neoconservatives literally ... created the boogeyman and we could even talk about the CIA ... coup in the 50s and and all this other stuff but but the ... fingerprints on the military industrial complex.
On the neoconservatives is literally create the boogeyman ... let's finance Isis let's make Iran more popular in the region ... and let's go to war with them next they're literally creating ... their own problems but they're not coming to you and saying ... well we have to you know we can't give you that $2,000 ... check we can't give you $50 minimum wage we got this huge ... threat we got a fight that conveniently we made happen ... and that's the big lie sold to the American people who just ... conveniently keep forgetting American history.
I'm doing clapback.
But I'm just absolutely flabbergasted and so disappointed in people, especially in the mainstream media, that don't talk about these events in relevant timelines that actually give people a perspective to see what's happening here because we are essentially paying for the destruction of this country by putting us in these quagmires.
Meanwhile, China, they're having our lunch.
We've got we actually have a breaking news.
And they're going to be doing a lot more with their global hegemony which they're going to take over with their
policies rather than our Self-destructive hurting policies that put us in debt and
send our American troops into harm's way for what we've got we actually have a
tim pool
Breaking news we have exclusive Oh yeah.
An exclusive photograph of Joe Biden actually making the switch between giving checks to the American people and dropping a bomb.
And as you can see, he's wearing a leather jacket and a, what is it?
unidentified
A fedora.
Is that a fedora though?
lydia smith
That's cool Joe Biden.
tim pool
Yeah, the fedora.
And he's got to swap the $2,000 check for the missile.
ian crossland
Is that like an Indiana Jones thing?
tim pool
Yeah, Indiana Jones.
That's what happened.
You know what?
You know what's really sad?
I'm not mad.
I'm sad.
All of these Twitter accounts from these progressives who are like, but we thought Biden was the good guy.
ian crossland
Good!
tim pool
But you thought Biden was the good guy?
Oh, poor baby!
At least they're waking up.
Listen, I'm not, I'm, I'm annoyed.
I don't want to be mean.
We, I think we're old enough to where we experienced the Obama years.
We knew what Obama was going to do, or we knew what Obama did.
We knew what Biden was going to do.
And we kept saying it over and over again.
And they're like, yeah, but Trump is a fascist.
Okay, well, you know, have more war, I guess.
We're gonna go to war with Russia.
Let's see how that plays out.
That's the next big thing.
ian crossland
Trump was a fascist.
Not any more or less than any other president.
tim pool
Not a fascist.
ian crossland
Well, this country's fascist.
It's built on the backs of slaves and corporatocracy.
That's fascism.
It's suitable for us, but, you know, it's basically controlling the world through military coercion.
tim pool
It's not fascism.
ian crossland
It's attempting to.
tim pool
There's a lot going on in the world.
ian crossland
It's not like dictatorial fascism.
No, you're using fascism as a general term for like... The corporations have been... Dude, Raytheon's CEO is now our defense secretary?
Is that what it is?
tim pool
Yeah, that's crony capitalism.
ian crossland
It sure is.
tim pool
But we're allowed to talk about it.
It's not fascism.
ian crossland
It's not totalitarian fascism.
It's just like subversive fascism.
tim pool
The fact that they're not coming in here, kicking our door in and then, you know, probing us shows that we're not.
But if we allow these people to keep doing these things, eventually it will be.
Especially under Joe Biden.
ian crossland
It's an information war.
You're right.
And it doesn't have to happen in Iran.
As long as we keep the communication going and keep people aware that we should not be going into Iran, that these bombings are out of order, then I think we won't go anywhere.
luke rudkowski
Well, another thing to kind of add here, just really quickly, is the fact that China's taking over the world through trade.
We're taking it over through military blunders that indebt us forever, and that's not achieving anything.
Iraq wants us to leave.
Syria wants us to leave.
There was an Iraqi parliament that literally voted, please, the United States, leave.
The United States decided not to do that, and not to listen to a direct government order by the Iraqi government.
And that's when we had these mysterious kind of rocket attacks that somehow are justifying our bigger involvement in there.
I'm not putting out any theories out there.
I'm just saying it was very convenient of a timeline that did happen.
tim pool
You guys wanna talk about authoritarianism?
You wanna talk about fascism?
You wanna talk about all that stuff?
How about this story from CTV News?
Man charged with assault at Montreal quarantine.
Woman says she felt helpless.
You don't get enough of an understanding from this headline.
Let me tell you what happened.
A woman heard they were gonna start instituting mandatory quarantines in Canada.
She decided, I'll go back to Canada now before they do this.
Took a COVID test.
When she arrived, they said that was the wrong COVID test.
So they took her to an undisclosed location, a hotel.
They told her she wasn't allowed to tell anyone where she was, where the hotel was, or what was going on.
And while she was there, a man sexually assaulted her.
This is authoritarianism.
This is what we have to worry about with these passports, with these lockdowns.
I watched a video.
It was from Rebel News.
I don't know don't know a whole lot about it, but I saw this video on Twitter and it's a it's a one of their reporters is walking down the street filming probably my assumption is he was filming like this is what the lockdown looked at looks like you know I'm out here showing the people and the cops gave him a fine and said we don't care they wrote him a ticket curfew for an adult man walking down an empty street now listen I mentioned that that's not the worst of it this story was sent to me and at first I was like what is this a guy's being charged sexual assault at Metro quarantine hotel woman says she felt helpless what is this And she said she felt helpless at a hotel where she didn't expect to end up and where she was told she wasn't allowed to disclose her location.
Quote, they didn't tell you where they were taking you, which is unacceptable.
They gave a set of rules.
Can't post on social media.
Can't disclose location.
Federal health officials told CTV they're aware of the incident and taking it very seriously.
The assault.
That's what they care about.
To the rest of these people, it's normal that this woman was flying back to her home and was apprehended by the authorities for breaking no crime, told she couldn't tell anyone what was going on, she couldn't report anything on social media, she couldn't give her location out, they brought her to an undisclosed location where she was assaulted.
What?
This is insane.
They're literally taking people who have broken no laws, locking them up.
drew holden
And the problem with all of this too is, it's the case in Canada I'm sure, it's certainly the case in the United States, when you empower government to do things, right?
We've seen this with the Patriot Act, we've seen this with lots and lots of things.
When you allow governments to have lots and lots of power and lots and lots of authority that is relatively unchecked against everyday life and against everyday civilians, they don't give them back quickly, right?
The coronavirus cases are down like 75, 77% I think in the last couple of weeks, right?
And despite that, has your life changed?
Has anyone's life changed?
tim pool
To be fair, we're in the middle of nowhere.
drew holden
Yeah, that's a good point.
You guys, I live in D.C., so it's a whole other universe.
Nothing's changed.
Everyone's wearing, people are wearing two masks instead of one now.
That's the only thing that's changed.
tim pool
You still have all the razor wire and the... Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
drew holden
I went for a run the other day because I used to run and I'd run up to the camp because I live pretty close there.
I mean, it's as if we're living in East West Germany.
It's insane.
But what happens when government gets these powers is that a bureaucracy that is empowered to make these sorts of decisions is always going to think they are going to make the right decision.
They are not going to give you the power and authority back.
And it has been, I think, to me, really incredible.
Despite the fact that the cases are falling and deaths are falling, life isn't actually returning to normal in all of the places where all of these lockdown restrictions have been put in place.
And Canada, obviously, is a nightmarish example of this.
But we're not that far from this kind of stuff.
tim pool
No, we're not.
And what is Fauci saying?
Look, if you go get the vaccine, nothing's going to change.
You'll still have to wear two masks.
You won't be able to go to the movies or go out to eat.
So go get it anyway.
And people are actually now questioning why would they do it?
drew holden
Who's going to do that?
And here's the thing too, like, listen, if all he would say, it blows my mind because all he would have to do, absent this power conversation, if he's someone who just wants to see people get the vaccine, you know what you do?
You tell them how great the vaccine is.
We have managed in the span of a very limited amount of time to come up with a revolutionary virus because of the power of American R&D and research.
Vaccine.
ian crossland
Revolutionary vaccine.
drew holden
That can stop and shut down a pandemic that has brought the world to its knees.
Go get it.
It's safe.
We've tested it a gazillion times.
Go get the vaccine.
luke rudkowski
Well, the long-term tests haven't been done.
lydia smith
Yeah, it takes a while.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I don't want to get into that.
Another thing I wanted to bring up is before, you know, forcing the strictest lockdowns, the Canadian government also disarmed a large public of the Canadian citizenry.
And we had politicians like Justin Trudeau that was in October of 2020 telling its citizenry
don't believe the conspiracy theories that there's going to be government quarantine camps. It's a
conspiracy theory. Don't believe it. It's not going to happen. And here we are today when you enter
tim pool
Canada. It's not a camp. It's a Sheraton hotel.
unidentified
I I have to imagine.
luke rudkowski
Of course, corrupt security guards that do unspeakable things to you.
And I mean, I mean, this is just it's just it's like the frog boiling.
Yeah, that's essentially what's happening here.
And there's still a lot of legitimate questions surrounding the vaccine that I do believe should be asked for my own personal opinion.
lydia smith
Yeah, you would think that with kind of like a propaganda campaign in favor of the vaccine, that people like Dr. Fauci would be super rah-rah about it.
I don't understand why he's not.
tim pool
But Trump did it.
Trump did it, and they don't like Trump.
lydia smith
That's it.
That's it.
That's bottom line.
tim pool
I mean, look, we mentioned this before.
All these stories were coming out saying, like, oh, boogeyman vaccine, a doctor took a vaccine, two weeks later was dead.
And then I read the stars, like, wow, what happened?
And it was like, he had a stroke.
And I'm like, oh, two weeks later, he had a stroke?
OK, come on.
I'm concerned about the speediness with which this vaccine was put out there.
But I'm worried that there are the same nasty, unethical journalists who are like, it's Trump's vaccine, though.
You know, let's rag on it.
And the politicians certainly like the power.
So I wonder why Fauci is saying these things.
ian crossland
Maybe he's being honest.
Maybe it really isn't that effectual or he doesn't know.
tim pool
Yeah, maybe they did it because they were scared and people needed hope.
So the vaccine is worthless?
Is that what Fauci is saying?
luke rudkowski
Well, again, this is rushed.
This is still experimental.
And there have been some findings saying that if you do get the vaccine, you could still spread the sickness.
There's been studies saying that.
There's been experts saying that.
You have to look this up.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I think even Fauci said this himself.
When we're looking at, you know, I don't think this is Trump's vaccine.
This is Pfizer's vaccine.
This is Moderna's vaccine.
unidentified
It was Warp Speed.
luke rudkowski
This is Johnson & Johnson's vaccine.
tim pool
And it was Operation Warp Speed that Trump streamlined the process to ramp everything through really, really quickly and provide massive funding for all this and guaranteed contracts.
luke rudkowski
Sure, sure, sure.
But when people look at it now, they don't see Trump.
That's the point that I'm making here.
Yes, Trump played a key initiative in pushing this vaccine, but the questions about its efficacy and its safety, those still are kind of questions that are being asked, and we'll see.
tim pool
Yeah, and Dr. Fauci is the one who's basically undermining confidence in it, and that to me is insane.
drew holden
Yeah, and to me, again, at the risk of being a little bit black helicopters on this stuff, I think part of it is, if you were to go out and say that it is fully effective and fully safe and everyone should get out and do it, then people would probably stop looking to the CDC for advice.
If you look at all of the different things that the CDC recommends you do, most of us ignore them on a day-to-day basis.
How many people truly go and they're like, well, you know, I really like the taste of medium rare steak, but the CDC says you have to cook it to at least medium.
No one.
People don't do that.
tim pool
Do they really say that?
drew holden
Yes, that's one of the recommendations.
And I think it's like one or two drinks is the maximum.
They have a litany of very, very silly rules that no one actually follows.
This is for COVID?
No, for anything.
tim pool
They're telling people to ruin their steaks.
Yes, exactly.
Who do we impeach?
drew holden
Thank you.
But here's the thing.
Right now, people are, in a lot of ways, it's like the weathermen when they predict storms, right?
As long as they keep telling you that a storm is coming, you're gonna be glued.
You're gonna pay attention.
I'm gonna go to the weather channel and see if we're gonna get six inches or eight inches or 12 inches or is it gonna be worse?
Is it gonna be nothing?
But if you keep saying, ah, something bad and scary is coming around the corner, people will keep tuning in.
And in his case, people will keep empowering him and the rest of the agents of the state to be able to say, oh, sorry, you can't do the things we don't like you doing.
tim pool
It's an addiction.
You've got people who have power, and they've found a way to use government to gain more power, be it money, shutting down all our competition, and allowing only us to remain open.
We're not gonna oppose that.
And so unless there is a principled individual to snap their fingers and say, stop this, which there isn't, why would anyone give this up?
Now listen, the people running the big box stores and the big massive online stores who are allowed to stay open and are making all this money and making billions and billions of dollars, They're gonna be like, well, look, it's not us.
It's the pandemic.
So we're not gonna get involved.
ian crossland
I think Elon was pretty good about being like, this thing's ridiculous.
I'm not shutting my factory down.
I'm leaving California.
Come with me if you want.
tim pool
But he needs people driving their cars.
So I'm not trying to impugn the honor of Elon.
But if people are staying home, they're not buying cars, they're not driving cars.
So it's good for Tesla and it's good for their bottom line when people are out and about.
You look at Amazon, it's the inverse.
They need you in your home waiting for that delivery.
So why would they resist in any capacity?
These politicians are also thinking, I got a guaranteed salary and everyone is sitting there terrified and will do whatever I say?
Sounds good to me!
luke rudkowski
If people lose their livelihoods, who's gonna buy Teslas?
So that's another thing to really consider here.
As well as, on the other hand, we did had a John Hopkins doctor recently come out in the Wall Street Journal op-ed and write that COVID's going to be over by April.
We had the Independent reporting that there has been no influenza cases in the United Kingdom all year.
There also has been a huge influenza drop in the United States, and according to English health officials and the Deputy Chief Medical Officer of the United Kingdom, he is even saying, as of two days ago, that face masks may not even be necessary by the summer.
So this is also happening as well, at the same time as we're discussing Dr. Fauci's, you know, darker predictions and Dr. Fauci's opposite viewpoint of what all these other medical professionals are saying in other countries.
ian crossland
Did you just say there was no influenza in the United Kingdom?
unidentified
Yes.
luke rudkowski
Zero.
According to the British, the UK health records, there was zero cases of influenza of flu in the United Kingdom this year, 2021.
Let's talk about this.
tim pool
Not a single case of flu detected by Public Health England this year as COVID restrictions suppress virus.
Experts say decline in infections could justify continued use of hand sanitizer and masks following coronavirus pandemic.
That's really amazing that COVID was skyrocketing while the flu is disappearing.
luke rudkowski
You trying to fact-check me there, Ian?
ian crossland
I want to just point this out.
luke rudkowski
Good, I like that.
We should be fact-checking things.
ian crossland
It's possible that influenza is present, but they're not classifying it as an influenza infection.
Instead, they're saying it's a COVID infection.
luke rudkowski
Well, we don't know that.
ian crossland
No, we don't.
I would like to investigate that.
luke rudkowski
But it does raise an important question.
Similar numbers have gone down in the United States.
So there's another article that I was just reading a couple days ago about influenza almost totally wiped out in the United States.
There still have been some documented cases.
Now again, we don't have the evidence.
It's a stretch to go there, but some people are going there.
But again, this is something to think about.
This is something to add to our calculations when we're looking at the sphere of our current modern day.
tim pool
It's simple.
The flu, when people were staying home, couldn't spread, but COVID could.
ian crossland
But it wouldn't mean that you wouldn't get it.
Like, yeah, it would slow the spread, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
drew holden
It's interesting.
What I had heard in terms of influenza coming to the United States is that there's essentially, and someone's got to fact check me on this, but I think the argument is that influenza, the annual influenza, tends to come from Central and South America.
And it cultivates there for whatever reason, right?
And don't forget, the seasonal flu we get now is just a dilapidated version of the 1918 Spanish flu.
And it never quite went away, and that's kind of how they assume the coronavirus is going to be too.
And it keeps mutating.
Right, and so every year we get a slight variance on a new strain, and for whatever reason, my understanding is that, I don't know where it starts, but it tends to come to the United States from Central and South America.
Since there's a lot less tourism, there's a lot less immigration.
I think the thinking is that it hasn't actually kept to its normal course this year.
tim pool
So you're saying that migrant caravans are putting up headwinds, and we have to lock the borders down?
drew holden
There's one argument, right?
tim pool
I'm only half kidding.
I mean, that's true, too.
Like, if the flu is really coming from, you know, a lot of these people, then border security would help prevent a lot of these disputes.
drew holden
I do think it's mostly tourists, though.
I think it's how it tends to work.
But also, interesting point you made earlier is about this Wall Street Journal op-ed, which I read the other day and I found fascinating.
And basically, the crux of his argument is, we're not taking into account how many people already have a natural resistance to the vaccine because there have been so many asymptomatic cases.
I think his estimates are that there have been between five and six times as many people who have been infected by coronavirus than our numbers have.
Not for any malicious reason, but just because a lot of people were asymptomatic, had it, never got tested, never even thought to get tested, what have you.
luke rudkowski
Never even knew they had it.
drew holden
Yeah, of course, and never knew that they had it.
And so when we talk about herd immunity, one of the biggest factors is that, in the case of this op-ed, the argument is that one of the biggest things we're not talking about is how many people have natural immunity.
And so if instead of a million or a couple of million, it's a lot higher than that, then you don't actually have to vaccinate as many people until you get to a point where the numbers continue to fall and continue to fall to a point where they're almost vanishing.
luke rudkowski
Most of them, by the way, have healthy immune systems, have good vitamin D levels.
Again, something that we should be talking about more.
There was also another UK study that talked about how the vaccine won't eliminate the virus risk.
I think it was also in the Wall Street Journal that reported this as well, which was kind of interesting.
Vaccine won't eliminate virus risk, I think was the title.
I don't know if you're able to find it or pull it up there.
But again, there's so many different things being thrown at us that we have to understand all of this is extremely complex.
A lot of the experts contradict themselves.
A lot of the mainstream media reports sensationalize it, make it as hyperbolic, make it as fearful as they can for you.
And a lot of the real legitimate things about your health, your immune system, sleep, stress, proper diet, exercise, vitamin D, sun, a lot of that gets missed.
Again, not a medical doctor, not a medical professional, not telling you how to live your life, not telling you what to do, but I'm just saying that this whole conversation around this from the very beginning has been toxic, has been polluted, and has been politicized so that people take advantage of it for their own personal benefit.
And sadly, our politicians did that to us.
tim pool
Let's talk about solutions.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
What does a regular person do?
Well, the next story we have is from Washington Times.
Five Oregon counties to vote on leaving the state and escaping to greater Idaho.
lydia smith
Understandable.
tim pool
And they actually have two phases.
The first phase is to get these five counties, which would turn Idaho into a coastal state.
It would give them a port.
I love it.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Idaho would reach the Pacific.
lydia smith
I love it.
tim pool
They also have phase two, which would rope in Northern California into Greater Idaho.
It would not create a new state.
And this is their plan.
So you have all these counties in Oregon which are conservative.
These counties are saying, the politicians in Portland, in Oregon, they're all Democrats.
It's all the Democrat areas.
They dominate the state politics and they're giving COVID relief to their constituents and ignoring the rural areas.
The rural areas say, well, we got more in common with Idaho.
How about the Idaho border move and encompass us?
I like it.
I do too.
One of the challenges they say is, have you guys heard of the state of Jefferson?
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
Northern California, same thing.
They think they should break off and form a 51st state called Jefferson because they have nothing in common with the rest of the state and the big cities and they do not get represented.
The problem is creating a new state, California is going to have to sign off on giving up this territory.
The U.S.
will have to have like a Article 5 convention or whatever it's called where like all the states come together and then vote for amendments and that would create the new state.
The same thing is true for Greater Idaho but it would not change the amount of senators.
So, there should still be the same amount of congressmen and women, and there should be the same amount of senators, and all it would do is move some borders around, which they say does happen.
I'm a fan of it.
I'm a fan.
luke rudkowski
And give people sovereignty away from, of course, the big socialist, communistic, very far leftist governments.
drew holden
And super populated, right?
I think one of the big problems with Northern California is that it's more sparsely populated, it's more rural, and so Not only are they going to be ignored in terms of their political disposition, like they just don't have the political capital to be able to get the people who are making the decisions to care about them.
And with Greater Idaho, obviously that wouldn't be the case.
You do have so much, surely so much more shared value and so much more shared interest.
I guess it would change the House of Representatives for each of those states, presumably, if enough people shifted and moved, but you're right, it wouldn't change the number of senators, and it probably, like, California will lose, what, maybe one congressional district at most?
And so, yeah, I don't know, this sounds wonderful.
lydia smith
I think this is such a great idea to give a voice to some of the more rural populations.
I'm so, I don't know about you guys, but I'm super tired of the big cities having all of the concentrated power, you know what I'm saying?
The rural people need a voice.
tim pool
So the interesting thing is that there was a study that came out recently that said even in red states the cities are blue.
The issue is that in these blue states the cities are disproportionate in population size to the rest of the state.
In the red states it's inverted.
So it'll be interesting to see all of a sudden these counties that have zero representation All of a sudden feel represented.
ian crossland
That's great.
tim pool
I think it's a great idea because what's the alternative?
drew holden
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
If people feel like the government does not represent them, what do they do?
This country was founded based on that fact.
ian crossland
It's the great thing about being in a democracy like this too, or a representative democracy, is that you can alter your borders peacefully.
tim pool
Here's the weird thing.
We've got Weld County, Colorado, right?
They want to be a part of Wyoming for the same reason.
You've got the state of Jefferson.
Even if the people who live there say, we don't want to be a part of this place anymore, and we're the ones who live there, we're the people who run this county, the state still has to vote on whether you're allowed to leave.
That makes no sense to me.
I don't think that should be the way to do it.
lydia smith
Why would a state let you leave?
tim pool
Why would they be like, we willfully give up people who are enslaved to us?
These are taxpayers who have no representation, who are funneling money to their salaries, and of course they're not going to let their serfs leave.
drew holden
Exactly.
tim pool
Because that's the problem.
What do those people end up doing?
They get angry.
You'll see protests.
We've got to have representation.
drew holden
It would be interesting to see if that just as a phenomena catches on.
Forget those individual places for a second.
If individual communities can say, hey look, we are 100 feet away from another state that shares our values and we are existing within a state that doesn't.
What are the sorts of things we can do and animate to start to move and change those things?
I think that could be a really, really fascinating experiment in federalism to see how that plays out all across the country.
tim pool
Look at how the Democrats want to make Puerto Rico and Washington, D.C.
states so they can get four more senators and then have a uniparty, a single-party rule controlling the country.
Now, to be fair, the Republican Party establishment, Democratic Party establishment, essentially the same thing.
But what's happening now is the Democrats don't even want to bother with whatever, you know, pseudo arrangement they had in the first place.
And they're like, hey, we'll make two more states and then we'll never lose ever again.
drew holden
Right.
tim pool
They would tell you, oh, Jefferson can't become a state.
That's ridiculous.
Why?
It would create two new Republican senators.
Or maybe not.
I'm not confident what's going to happen to the Republican Party.
I'm seeing all these progressives saying, like, Joe Biden bombed Sea Orient instead of giving us checks.
Good luck in the midterms.
And I'm like, they don't need it.
The Republican Party is split and is fractured.
People, they want Trump.
They want people who support Trump.
They do not want the crony establishment.
So, look, we've had people on this show who have mentioned the idea of peaceful divorce.
I think Luke's mentioned peaceful divorce.
luke rudkowski
The first time I came on the show, I'm like, hey, don't make fun of me, but I think memes and peaceful divorce are going to be the only solution that are going to cause the least amount of harm on people.
So if you want to reduce harm, you're going to have to work out a solution where people peacefully move away from each other and decide to live next to each other and not aggress against each other.
tim pool
Well, without a peaceful divorce, like, how do we get to that point, right?
And so I think we're seeing, what, recall efforts?
We're seeing a lot of people go after the governors and complain about them.
But we always try to vote out incumbents, and it doesn't change things for a lot of people.
That's why so many people who never voted before voted for Trump.
Because they're thinking, what's the point?
It's not going to change anything going back and forth.
Well, then someone comes along and says, I've got an idea.
How about we move this town to a different state?
Hey, that sounds pretty good.
So five counties are going to be voting on this in May.
Apparently in November, several counties voted to do it already.
Not that I think it will really happen, but they're saying, we want this.
All right.
The states and the federal government say, no, you can't do it.
Well, these people are, I mean, what happens?
Because I talked about this before when, you know, Joe Biden or Fauci says, here's our new, you know, COVID guidance.
And this town says we've had it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
No.
And they set up their own checkpoints.
Their police say we won't enforce this.
Already we're hearing in many jurisdictions that the sheriffs are saying they're not going to enforce this stuff.
What happens then when these people feel like, without representation, I have no confidence in the system anyway?
In the state of Jefferson, I'll do air quotes, there are people who have flags for the state of Jefferson.
They want it.
They demand it.
I guess in the end, what we're seeing here is this will start heating up, and then eventually you'll get to the point where when this fails, people say peaceful divorce.
I mean, the Mr. Potato Head thing was enough to get Mark Dice to say, time for Republican states to secede from the Union.
luke rudkowski
It's a little hyperbolic.
tim pool
I know, it's hilarious.
luke rudkowski
He must have really loved Mr. Potato Head, truly.
ian crossland
What's the plan with Mr. Potato Head now, not to diverge too far away?
Are they just going to call him Potato Head?
luke rudkowski
You just made a very big mistake.
drew holden
Potato head comes with eyelashes and big lips.
unidentified
Seeing your potato head. No, now it is down to just potato head or potato.
ian crossland
So before it was Mr. and Mrs. Potato Head.
luke rudkowski
It's genderless.
ian crossland
And now they're just both called potato head.
drew holden
Yeah. Are they both genderless or is it just they're both the same potato?
tim pool
But Mr. Potato Head comes with like eyelashes and big lips.
Yeah. And the Mr. Potato Head comes with a mustache.
ian crossland
Oh, but it's just all going to be packaged as potato head now.
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, so now you get, I guess, one with everything in it.
Sounds like they might, like, now they don't have to make different color boxes with different designs.
They'll save some money on design and box production.
But then it sounds like they're going to be selling less products.
What if you did like Mr. Potato Head, Mrs. Potato Head, Potato Head Kids, and Potato Head?
Grandpa Potato Head?
Yeah, you can't do it now.
drew holden
You could have, I mean, you could have a non-gendered potato head.
luke rudkowski
You could do a BLM potato head.
You could do Antifa potato head.
tim pool
Wait, wait, wait, hold on.
We're giving away really good ideas.
drew holden
I'm telling you, I think what this all was, as soon as I saw it, at first I was like, well, this is dumb.
And then my second thought was, oh no, there is some really creative intern who said, I can get potato head trending.
And his bosses were like, yeah, okay, yeah, Potato Head, hello.
This is Hasbro, we've had Potato Head for a good 10 years.
He's like, listen, follow me here.
Mr. Potato Head, no gender.
Do away with it, watch what happens.
Boom, now we're talking about it.
tim pool
But you know what the worst part was?
When he was at pitch meeting where the intern was pointing to his slides, and as he's pitching the no gender Mr. Potato Head, the other intern was walking and holding the iPad with potato dick and potato boobs.
And then he overhears him saying it and he like, you know, he looks down and he mopes away.
I was going to make mature potatoes.
unidentified
Adult potatoes.
ian crossland
3D printers are for it.
You sell the CAD files.
tim pool
So we were talking about seceding from the states.
ian crossland
Which is a great idea.
tim pool
And states leaving the union.
unidentified
I like the idea of making new states.
drew holden
This is all connected if you really squint hard enough.
ian crossland
It's a simulation.
tim pool
It's a simulation.
unidentified
That's it.
tim pool
I'm done.
ian crossland
We've been making states since 1776, right?
And so why don't we just keep making them?
drew holden
Well, making states is hard because the political process around it is tortured, right?
Forever there will always be a democratic push to make Washington DC a state the argument will be the argument will narrowly be We should do like the implicit argument is we should do this because we need to enfranchise everyone because they want two senators Republicans will make the opposite point say hey, this doesn't actually make sense in the Constitution, but fundamentally don't get me wrong the whole from a uniparty perspective if it would have been two Republicans who got elected senators I I guarantee you the Republican Party would find a really compelling reason why we've been misreading the Constitution.
tim pool
And the Democrats would be saying the Constitution says.
drew holden
And they would be saying the opposite thing.
tim pool
But it is true.
drew holden
And so you'll always see that back and forth in that fight about new states.
tim pool
The important reason we have D.C.
as not a state is so that the federal government exists outside of any state's jurisdiction.
We have to have that.
Puerto Rico actually actually makes sense to be a state.
drew holden
Yeah, me too. But and like if but imagine if you could look at
God, I don't know what you would call it between it was a Jefferson State the state of Jefferson
if you could have the state of Jefferson and then part of Oregon and say alright here this has like if you could cut
out Those areas and make them have approximately the population
of Puerto Rico and say, all right guys one for one. We're doing it. Yeah
Yeah, I think that'd be great I don't think the Dems would probably not go for it, only because they would lose some little bit of representation and all of that, and California obviously drives so much of the modern Democratic Party.
tim pool
I don't understand the logic behind, I'm not being represented in this state, so we are going to self-govern, and them saying, but we can say no.
How does that make sense?
The Constitution is literally a government of, by, and for the people.
It is the duty of the people, blah blah blah, all that stuff.
So what's the justification now for the U.S.?
They're not leaving the country.
They're not leaving the Union.
Greater Idaho is crafted very politically, in a very smart way, to say it won't change the amount of states.
It will give Idaho more congressional representation.
Actually, no, I don't think it would actually change the makeup of Congress, because the jurisdictions for Congress are going to be based on the sort of county level, right?
drew holden
Well, so they'll be based on the 20—it's interesting in terms of when it happens.
It'll come down to the 2020 census.
But no, it's a population question, and so it depends on how much—how many people greater Idaho adds to current Idaho.
tim pool
Well, so the area of Oregon that is going to break off and join Idaho already has a Republican representative.
These districts.
drew holden
Oh, good point.
tim pool
So they would join Idaho, it wouldn't change.
drew holden
Yeah.
tim pool
It would just mean that state law would benefit them.
They'd be able to have guns, they would get their COVID relief when they need it, they would be respected and represented.
It's very smart what they're proposing.
drew holden
Yeah, that's a good point.
tim pool
I think it's a huge problem that Oregon could be like, nah, well you're not representing their people.
If they come to the federal government and say, we object and we demand the right to do this, I think the federal government should say, agreed.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think so too.
tim pool
If Idaho agrees, Idaho is the only one who has to agree to this.
The counties have to agree, and Idaho has to agree.
Oregon should have no say in the matter.
luke rudkowski
Look, Tim, there's too much common sense for the government to do this.
So if it was ridiculous, stupid, and counterintuitive, they would have their stamp on it right away.
But this makes a lot of sense.
This makes perfect sense.
If we lived in a just society where we had government that actually served its people, it would happen.
But again, we have to also understand that the government of California, the government of Oregon, a lot of these bureaucrats view their citizens as tax cattle and tax slaves.
So they're not going to want to give up people who they're going to be able to tax and take a huge amount of money for that they don't have to do anything for.
So the initiative of the government that's already going bankrupt, especially in California, that can't balance a budget, that has so many wasteful spending bills and initiatives and programs that are just absolutely ridiculous, they're not going to give away their tax slaves.
They want them.
Just like in ancient days, in the Roman Empire, they saw people as money. And the people were converted into slaves. That's
the same thing that's essentially is happening here.
tim pool
Surfdom. This is like a neo-feudalist kind of thing. These people with no representation
are paying taxes, and that is money the state will not give up. Now here's the funny thing.
When the greater Idaho people said COVID relief went to the Democrat constituents and not
us, that's your money.
drew holden
Yeah.
tim pool
That's the money from the conservatives who paid the taxes and then saw that tax revenue from the federal government and from the state level go to their political rivals and was not fairly allocated.
ian crossland
So would it have to be that Idaho buys the territory from the other states?
tim pool
No.
ian crossland
As like reparation for the loss?
tim pool
No, I think it should literally just be, we live here, we voted, the county says, the council members, whatever represents this county, we are now Idaho.
ian crossland
But California can be like, well, we spent a lot of California citizens taxes to make those cities what they are.
So you owe us something before you leave.
tim pool
That's something that would need to be adjudicated.
That's the problem.
What the people in greater Idaho are saying is that they're not getting that.
They're not getting the resources.
And so the argument from someone in like Portland was like, well, you're gonna have to consider all the taxes you've got to pay.
And they're like, the taxes will go down.
drew holden
Yeah.
tim pool
We would pay less in tax dido, and you're not giving us the resources.
So the problem is, the grievance they have is, you're not investing in us.
You're not fixing our infrastructure or giving us the COVID relief we've asked for.
You're giving it to your people who are going to vote for you to maintain their power.
That is going to lead to conflict and crisis.
When one side is getting too little and one side is getting too much, it's the Hunger Games.
So, what makes sense?
If I live here, I should be able to be like, we vote.
There we go.
The land is this county.
Idaho, what do you say?
Then Idaho would have to vote.
drew holden
Right.
tim pool
And if Idaho says yes, done.
drew holden
Yeah, exactly.
And that, I think, in so many ways, too, that would help get around concerns of if you have these places that aren't paying much in taxes, that aren't super valuable, you would at least have to have buy-in from the places they're going to say, yeah, they're not just taking them in as, you know, as the backstraggler or what have you.
These are just people who we want to break bread with.
And so we are going to do what we need to, to legally empower them to be citizens like us.
tim pool
Do you know what happens if you do not respect the people?
You get this story right here from The Independent.
Lady Gaga dog napping.
FBI investigating political motives.
Singer's dog walker was shot and her two French bulldogs were stolen.
They're essentially saying, check this out, the FBI is reportedly investigating if there were political motives behind the dog napping of Lady Gaga's bulldogs after she sang at President Joe Biden's inauguration last month.
The pop superstar is offering half a million dollars for the return of her French bulldogs, Koji and Gustave, who were stolen at gunpoint.
Not at gunpoint, at gunshot!
But Luke, you see, a lot of people might say, what political motives?
You mentioned something earlier about this.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I remember seeing some kind of form of entertainment where this was a plot line of going against the bourgeoisie and stealing the rich people's dogs as form of like a cultural warfare.
I don't remember exactly what.
I couldn't pinpoint it when we were talking before the show.
That's why I didn't bring it up now.
But, you know, I think there might be a bigger political motive potentially here.
I think it also might be motivated by crime that has been spiking in many big cities that is going to go dramatically up as, of course, our economic woes continue.
tim pool
Well, they're saying the FBI thinks there may be a political motive, right?
But I wonder, in Los Angeles, is that MAGA country?
I do not believe it is.
So could it be some fringe leftist saying, eat the rich?
I think these people knew who the dogs belonged to.
drew holden
I mean, you gotta assume that they did, right?
Like, the other thing, too, is they didn't just take the dogs.
They shot the guy who had the dogs, and then they took the dogs.
So you gotta assume, I mean, my hunch is it's either for ransom, or, yeah, like, think about where she was.
tim pool
I'm saying this, my initial assumption is this is crazy for the FBI to insinuate political motives.
That's nuts, okay?
It was probably some guys who were like, yo, it's Lady Gaga's dogs, shoot that guy, take his dogs.
But if the FBI has reason to believe it was politically motivated, I don't see it as being right-wing.
First of all, like, right-wingers going around shooting people and stealing dogs does not make sense to me.
drew holden
No, it would have to be, like, if there's anyone who's going to do that, and I think it fits.
The reason we all jumped onto it earlier is it fits the class war narrative, I think, of the Democratic Party.
If it's anything, it's probably something from, like, I don't know, a communist revolution that happened in China or in Russia, where that's what they did to the wealthy.
And as a form of punishment, they took the items that they had that conveyed some sort of class status, right?
lydia smith
Yeah.
drew holden
It's no different than stealing someone's Range Rover today.
And so it's like, that to me, if there is any political intonation, it has to be that.
lydia smith
Yeah, I'd be curious who in the FBI is saying that they were kind of investigating this.
I'd be really curious what they were thinking the motivation was because they're, you're right, there's no chance that this is MAGA country because this is LA.
That ain't MAGA country.
It's even less so than it was in Chicago when Jussie Smollett was dealing with it.
Oh, poor man.
But these dogs are very expensive and I feel like everybody knows that and I think that that this is probably just crime Honestly, and I guess this has been kind of increasing.
So I don't know.
luke rudkowski
I mean, they're like $2,000.
I mean, yeah On average They're holding them for ransom, right?
But even, I mean, in this special technological surveillance Big Brother state, I don't think people would do ransom because they would get caught right away with so much metadata.
I mean, Facebook knows everything about you.
tim pool
This is why the political thing I'm questioning.
Look, I would not entertain this normally, but the FBI is investigating a political motive over this.
And they're saying it's because she's saying it at Biden's inauguration.
But that's kind of like, The far left was planning on protesting Hillary Clinton's
inauguration as well back in 2016, and then it turned into a Trump protest.
They don't like Joe Biden, and like Luke said, what ransom are you going to be able to get from stealing Lady Gaga's
dogs?
Okay, maybe they didn't know it was Lady Gaga's dogs.
Maybe they saw a guy with dogs and said, yo, but I don't believe that because these dogs are extremely valuable.
drew holden
Yeah.
tim pool
They likely knew where the dogs came from.
They likely knew what kind of dogs they were.
They had to have known it was Lady Gaga's.
And if that's the case, ransom would never have worked.
So were they hoping to then get the reward later from Lady Gaga or sell them because they're worth a couple grand?
I don't know.
But the FBI says political motive.
And I don't, I don't look to a bunch of MAGA guys with some bleach and some rope tracking down this guy.
drew holden
Yeah, and there's more expensive things to steal, right?
Like, if you were in downtown LA, you've got to assume there's probably, like, cars, watches, right?
Like, things that you don't have to hold for ransom, you can just resell.
It's fascinating.
tim pool
I also do think it's, like, absurd to think that some, like, Antifa people were, like, eat the rich, and then they shot this guy and stole the dogs.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Is the FBI just reaching here?
drew holden
Imagine being the FBI person.
Imagine you're an agent and this comes across your case and you're like, I'm sorry, Lady Gaga's dogs?
This is what I have to do today?
tim pool
No, no, there's an FBI agent and he's sitting at his desk and he's like super ripped and his suit's about to rip because his muscles are so big.
And then they come and they're like, Agent Johnson, It's Lady Gaga.
And he goes, don't tell me, her dogs.
And he's like, I'm on it.
And then it plays a theme song, The Dog Bounty Hunter.
luke rudkowski
Or it could be just two dumbasses that just randomly decided to be violent, because there's a bunch of violent dumbasses, mainly in big cities.
And then the FBI is like, I can't fix this.
I can't solve this.
Let's just blame politics.
drew holden
Like we do everything else.
luke rudkowski
Because they always do that.
drew holden
It's like, ah, well, might as well be, right?
tim pool
Then they announced that they found a length of rope tied off in the back of Lady Gaga's car.
drew holden
It's interesting, a Subway bag, I think, was also recently discovered nearby.
tim pool
Wow, that's going to be the meme forever for all these hoaxes, having a Subway sandwich.
drew holden
I mean, it has to be.
I am reminded of what happened often because it is just so fundamentally ridiculous, and people ran with it.
Remember, I think she deleted the tweet, but Kamala Harris tweeted, she's like, I've never known someone as honest and as brave as Jussie Smollett.
tim pool
These people are, they just, it's like, I imagine Kamala Harris is sitting there and you're like, Miss Harris, what's your first name?
And she goes, Harry, Harry, I can't tell the truth.
ian crossland
I have to lie.
tim pool
You're like, tell me just something simple fact.
And she tries really hard.
unidentified
Interesting.
tim pool
I knew it!
unidentified
I knew it.
tim pool
Yeah, because it has to be a lie out of her mouth.
ian crossland
I wonder every single one of these people if because Gaga performed at Biden's thing
that Joe and Kamala know her and they think that the FBI will get more funding if they
say that it might be politically motivated and just solved it.
tim pool
Interesting.
Two people who stole the dogs with Joe and Kamala.
ian crossland
That's what I'm getting at.
tim pool
And it was Joe and a gun.
He's like, yeah, come on, man.
unidentified
Give me the dog!
ian crossland
Will they get more internal funding if it's a political crime?
drew holden
I think of the Kamala Harris meme where she's like looking on the phone and looking down
and everyone's like, everyone's saying she's on the phone with Joe and what she's saying
to him.
unidentified
And I think of her going like, Joe, they found the dogs, Joe.
drew holden
They know that it's us, the gig is up.
tim pool
No, but you do bring up a good point in that they just attach white supremacy to everything.
You know, so if there's like a problem, so like, you know, a dog got kidnapped and the FBI can't figure it out, white supremacy?
And then the left goes, that explains it, and they go, oh, thank goodness.
lydia smith
They're two FBI agents for that fake noose.
tim pool
Fake news.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
That's right.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So we're gonna get to the point where like, you know, someone's car breaks down and then like the person at the shop and the guy looks at it and goes, uh, white supremacy.
And then the guy goes, Oh, can you fix it?
Well, I'll do my best.
Let me see if I can get the ADL on the phone.
It'll just be an excuse for like anything that goes wrong.
Right?
So like the power will go out and then people will be like, we want to know where the power is out.
And the mayor will be like, ladies and gentlemen, hate crime.
White supremacy!
lydia smith
Just snow.
tim pool
That's it!
And they'll be like, what?
I'm like, that's what happened.
And they'll go, help us, please!
Help us, oh heavens!
That's big cities, to be honest.
drew holden
Yeah, I was gonna say, like, I'm pretty sure this is what they're doing in, was it LA or another city?
There's been a spike, a purported spike.
I don't know if the numbers are actually pretty solid, but there's been a purported strike in anti-Asian American violence.
And I saw someone blame, they were like, well, naturally it's white supremacy.
tim pool
They protested for this.
In New York City, they did a march against white nationalism and the suspect to attack this Asian guy was black, not white.
And then in San Francisco, they did the same thing.
The suspect was black and they were like, but it's white supremacy.
unidentified
Right.
drew holden
That's what's driving this.
In New York, with the attacks on the Hasidic Jews, all the time, it's the same thing.
It's like, this is white supremacy run rampant again.
tim pool
Wow, these people are insane.
That's one of the reasons I don't want to be in these cities anymore, but look.
I'm not... We mention it periodically throughout the show, but like, this is just... Falling apart.
When you have...
Very clearly, a black man attacking Asian men.
My response is, I don't care about the race.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It was a guy who committed a crime.
But then when all of these people are like, white supremacy was the problem, and they go march, I'm like, yo, it was, it's, it's, listen, it's class, it's poverty, it's education.
Like, we need to, to, to help these areas not scream up, like, I'll tell you this, I'll make, I'll simplify this, okay?
I'll just slow down.
If we see crime, regardless of race, and we say, if we can alleviate poverty by targeting class issues and economic factors and education, then we can help solve that problem of violence.
Instead of doing any of that, they go... You know that meme where they're all at the meeting, and it's like the two people give a really bad one, and the third guy gives an insane, and they throw him out the window?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's a guy, he's behind the table.
We need to do something about all this violence!
And then someone says, you know, like, we can blame white nationalism.
We can blame Trump supporters.
And the third guy goes, we can just help deal with the poverty that leads to violence.
Throw them out the window!
It's easier for everyone to be like, how about we just march against white nationalism and solve no problem!
drew holden
Problems bingo because it's it's far like the other the problem is the alternative is you have to slog through the hard stuff, right?
You have to work through the education and like the psychology of criminality and all the other difficult things family.
Yeah And all of these other systemic problems that there's not a there's not a silver bullet for and there's not a convenient bad guy for that sounds like hard Exactly.
tim pool
Exactly.
ian crossland
And you got a target compound interest, which undercuts the elite class of fiscal giants
they're making.
What's $100 billion make you a year in just basic 2.3% interest?
tim pool
Just putting in the right investments.
Meanwhile, I love that.
I can't remember which comedian said this, but he was like, when you're poor, they charge
you money.
Right.
Like you go to the bank and you're negative, so they're like, I got to charge you $35.
Now you're negative $50.
Meanwhile, when you're rich, they're like, ah, sir, you're wealthy.
Let me give you some more money.
That's the way the system works.
Is it like I understand the idea of interest.
The bank uses your money for loans or whatever, to a certain degree.
It's fractional reserve.
But like punishing the poor, that's just ridiculous.
It was always weird to me when I would get an overdraft fee.
At one point when I was 18 or 19, I lost a bank account because it went negative and I couldn't stop the negative continuing to go negative.
And I just told them, I was like, you realize I don't have money, right?
That's why it's negative.
They're like, well, sir, you know, there is a fee.
What happened was it was like, if you have less than a certain amount, you get a fee.
And that fee put me negative.
And then I got like a negative fee.
I had like four bucks in the account, but it was a $5 checking fee because I had under a certain amount.
So then it went negative.
Then they charged me the fee for being negative.
And I showed up and said, I don't got $35 to fix this.
I was like, I didn't know you were going to charge me right then.
And I'm poor.
And their response was, well, if you don't pay by next week, you can incur another free.
And I was like, then close the account.
Congratulations.
And what are you going to do?
You're going to try and get $35 from me I don't have?
ian crossland
I'd have like negative $2 and then I'd buy like you get a pack of gum and then you go get a sandwich and then you go buy like a 99 cent something and they charge you $90, $35, $35, $35.
You call them and you're like, hey, I didn't know I was in the negative.
I'm going to deposit some money.
And they're like, I can get rid of half of your charges.
You're like, dude, you can get rid of all of them.
You literally can.
But if you act like a jerk, they won't help you at all.
tim pool
Check this out.
There was this crazy thing that happened in Chicago like 15 years ago with Chase Bank where there was an error in the ATMs and it wasn't subtracting money from people's accounts when they were withdrawing from ATMs.
And so it led... So here's what happened though.
So I go to the ATM and it was like me and my friends were all going to a show, like a bar venue.
And I put in my card, I had a couple hundred bucks, and I was like, I'll take out $20.
I see the amount, I take out $20, I look at the receipt, and it says the number didn't change.
I'm like, that's gotta be wrong, so I'll take another $20.
I take another $20, the number didn't change.
And I was like, what is this?
So I put my card back in, and then I was like, I'm gonna take out $100.
$100 comes out, and I got $140.
I look at the receipt, it didn't change.
And I went, this is messed up.
So I deposited all the money back in.
Because I'm like dude, they're gonna get you It was an error and I thought I thought it was gonna give me the correct readout But it wasn't so I just deposit put the money back in here's what happened tons of people started being like oh free money Yeah, and then what happened the next day the system updated Everybody was negative like a hundred two hundred bucks.
drew holden
That's And then all the cheese and everything else.
tim pool
And the bank was like, too bad.
I'm like, did they do that on purpose?
Because they just like, imagine you do that.
All the poor people think now's my chance to get some free money because the system is broken.
No, it's not.
They don't fix itself.
Just because they don't know, because the amount in your account is wrong, doesn't mean they don't know how many times you took money out.
drew holden
Right.
tim pool
So it updated and then said, withdraw 20, 20, 20, 20.
And then people were just like, I just lost all that money.
drew holden
Yeah.
ian crossland
Dude, you said you went with your friends to a bar venue.
unidentified
I got really nostalgic.
ian crossland
I want to go hang out at a bar, man.
tim pool
I mean, we have one nearby you can go hang out at.
ian crossland
Yeah, but not with a mask.
I don't want to do that stuff.
I just want to go chill with like 50 people in a bar, get a IPA, look around at people, relax.
drew holden
So I did that last weekend.
I think this is the first time I've said this out loud, at least out of my apartment with my girlfriend.
So here's my public confession.
I went to Nashville last weekend.
I visited my brother, who's down there, and he's thinking about moving down there.
So I went down and I was like, listen, I haven't seen the guy in a long time.
We're super, super close.
And I was like, I want to see him before he leaves.
you know, neither of us are getting any younger, whatever.
And so I went down there and I remember we went the first night, him and some of his buddies. And I
remember just sitting in a bar, listening to a bar band surrounded by people and no one was
wearing masks. And I was like, this feels so wonderful.
unidentified
You cherish it.
drew holden
I have people, like for the first time in a year, I had people physically close to me and I was like, great!
unidentified
Step on my shoe, bump into me, like give me a hug, man.
drew holden
This is fine.
I don't mind this at all.
luke rudkowski
This is one of the reasons why I was up in New Hampshire during the summer and spring because it was normal life up there.
You know, large parties, large gatherings, and, you know, one of the lowest sick rates in the nation.
drew holden
And I was gonna say, and no one told the coronavirus in New Hampshire because for whatever reason, Their rates lagged way behind everyone else in the country.
tim pool
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Let's read some of these superchats.
All right, let's see what we got here.
We got Petty.
This one's for you, Ian.
He says, Ian, were you aware that JP Morgan sank the Titanic, which was actually the Olympic, not only as an insurance scam, but in order to kill three bankers who were opposed to the Federal Reserve and seized their assets?
I don't know if that's actually true.
I read that before, but I think it might be a conspiracy theory.
ian crossland
Whoa.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
I've never heard anything about that.
That's amazing.
drew holden
Ian's given this one to Google as soon as the show's over.
I would bet on it.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I haven't been able to confirm them yet.
I haven't looked into it.
tim pool
We have a very important factoid here.
Black Lion Grunt says, Tim, fun fact, did you know that Mortal Kombat is the reason the rating system for video games exists?
I missed the quarter wars in the arcade.
Was it because it was too bloody?
They were like, we got to tell people.
drew holden
They're like, we have to allow some way for parents to know that they shouldn't give this to their children.
ian crossland
Particularly the spine ripping out of Scorpion, I think is fatality.
luke rudkowski
As the mainstream media was playing that again and again, seeing how bad it was over and over.
I remember seeing that as a child being like, oh, why are they showing it then?
tim pool
We got, uh, Rook says, the Golden Trump is a troll.
We will never stop as long as the media cries.
We are electing Trump again, period.
It is Trump or nobody, Trump or no vote, period.
I completely believe that.
It's gonna be Trump.
drew holden
Listen, say whatever else you want about it.
tim pool
We're gonna do the Golden Trump for the audience.
ian crossland
Oh, cool, okay.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, we gotta talk Golden Trump, but it's gonna be special and we're gonna swear a lot, so.
Yeah.
375 Shooter says, Eric Weinstein stated on Lex's show, wait until everything is connected.
History is producing rhymes and repeats via incest.
What does that mean though?
ian crossland
He's just, he's a big picture guy.
I think once, I don't know when everything, wait until everything is, once we can see the system, what's happening clearly, you know, we have the great reset, we've got COVID, we have The Federal Reserve, the finances, all this stuff, the wars
all over the energy systems, fusions on the horizon.
Mars is becoming like what we're going to see.
We're going to look back on this and everything will start to make sense.
The ancestral things are interesting to, you know, humanity is very ancestral as a species.
drew holden
I'm glad you have this spinny thing in front of you.
ian crossland
It's been that. Yeah.
tim pool
Turk.
unidentified
Where?
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Turk Longwell says, Tim, us folks who have fired weapons understand the damage.
Not these politicians.
We need more veterans in office.
Love the show.
Spin that thingy.
Can you see it on the camera?
lydia smith
I don't think so.
ian crossland
Let me give it a little spinny though.
tim pool
Can you pull it back?
ian crossland
Nothing in it.
tim pool
No, you can't see it.
lydia smith
No, you can't see it no matter how far back you pull it.
ian crossland
Alright, here, I'm gonna lift it up.
unidentified
Oh no!
You've ruined it!
ian crossland
Maybe tomorrow.
Maybe Monday.
tim pool
The levitating little flowerpot has now been Decapitated.
drew holden
Yeah, it's over.
lydia smith
Disabled.
drew holden
Totally right, though.
We absolutely need... There was a really bizarre comment today from Leader McCarthy, or I guess no longer leader, Minority Leader McCarthy, about not having guns on the Capitol premises.
And listen, I didn't grow up around guns.
I came to guns pretty late in life, and I know I'm not alone among the Republican Party in being that way.
But it really read like someone who has always just sort of thought of guns of being very icky.
And I think that it's Very difficult for a lot of Republicans to recognize that the vast majority of the conservative movement does not see them that way.
tim pool
But I mean, the interesting thing about guns is that even, there's a ton of support from Democrats for guns.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
So like, there was that moment where the union working guy, like, questioned Biden on his guns.
drew holden
Yeah.
tim pool
You also have, you know, blue states up in the Northeast, they're very pro-gun.
drew holden
Yeah, Vermont.
tim pool
It's only these, like, ultra-urban coastal elites, specifically, that are anti-gun, and they have a lot of political power and a lot of money to push these things, like Bloomberg, for instance.
drew holden
Yeah, it's far more a conversation, too, about class and about location.
And so if you have people who are poor and rural, their feelings on guns, regardless of their politics, are going to be far more supportive than anyone who lives in a city.
tim pool
Yeah.
We Got Remy says, Nukes should be centralized.
We don't need politicians or bureaucrats handling it.
They can't even give COVID relief without arguing for months.
Every major city would be a radioactive wasteland before we could send a response.
Interesting.
drew holden
I'm sympathetic to that, honestly.
If there's anything the government is good at, it's not making a decision particularly fast.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
Josh Mabry says, Tim, you're right on the nuclear side.
I was in missile maintenance in the Air Force.
The whole point of deterrence is mutually assured destruction.
If Xi Jinping says, we fire the nukes, then Biden will fall asleep and then we die.
But the idea would be that he'd fire the nukes, you know?
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
lydia smith
In theory.
tim pool
Joshua Sanders says each nuke requires two keys to turn simultaneously to launch.
Biden not having access to launch all the nukes, I think, is just a metaphor.
unidentified
Huh.
tim pool
Metaphor for what?
lydia smith
Interesting.
I don't know.
drew holden
Well, I think that gets to the point about what are the sorts of steps that the people around him take as a result of him not necessarily having the mental capacity that he needs to execute the office of the presidency.
And so today it's nukes, and in a few months, that's who knows.
ian crossland
And are they saying that it takes two turnkeys so Biden can't wake up in the middle of the night and be like, ugh, and turn the key?
He needs a second person to do it with him?
drew holden
I think there has to be an operator there who physically transacts on doing it, but there's one person making the decision.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
America76 says, people should start saying Obama instead of Biden.
The Okami Cabal is in charge of his administration.
Biden is a figurehead puppet and the Republic is toast.
Well then.
Jesse Padilla says, Tim, I worked with a Syrian refugee that praised Trump for bombing the Syrian government and was happy to be living in America.
Interesting.
drew holden
Yeah, I'd buy that.
tim pool
Advent Falling says, Tim, we're mostly in agreement.
If not, I respect your point of view.
However, GTFO, Ed, Edd, and Eddie represent libertarian capitalism.
Ed is freedom, Double D is innovation, and Eddie is ambition.
Yes, fail often teaching us to balance the Eds inside us all.
I hated that show.
luke rudkowski
Are these the superchats from yesterday?
tim pool
We were talking about that yesterday.
luke rudkowski
I'm not.
I know about them.
And the United States backed them and then turned their back on them when Turkey attacked them.
And now the situation gets more perplexing.
tim pool
Would you guys consider having Tom McDonald on the podcast?
Viral rapper against woke mob.
P.S.
Love the website.
I laughed when I heard Tim cuss for the first time.
Caught me off guard.
Love your work.
It's late at night.
lydia smith
Sprinkles with the A word tonight.
Thanks y'all.
ian crossland
It'd be funny to have an episode of the, where we cuss a lot, but it's all beeped out.
This is what's on the website.
It's like five minutes.
tim pool
We'll film a normal segment and then have someone go in and put strategic beeps randomly to change the context of everything.
lydia smith
Unnecessary censorship.
ian crossland
We were just talking about Tom McDonald before the show.
He's a big hit around here.
luke rudkowski
He just released Clown World.
Great music video.
lydia smith
We are going to have him on.
He's fully invited and he knows this and we're going to make it happen.
luke rudkowski
Nice.
ian crossland
Awesome.
tim pool
At some point, right?
lydia smith
Yep, it's gonna happen.
tim pool
Full mental alchemist says you should never give government any power.
What we need is a real reset, as in a divorce.
Very interesting.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Okay.
lydia smith
Saying it for years.
tim pool
Andrew Rontas said, started listening after Michael Malice, who was on Cash Cab, was an amazing Alex Jones whisperer.
I love the nightly convos.
Plans on a members audio RSS for the bonus content.
So to Luke and the best, shout out to Luke and thebestpoliticalshirts.com.
luke rudkowski
Ah, thank you very much.
unidentified
Nice.
tim pool
We're working on a mobile app for the website.
And then we're going to have OTT, it's called.
So that's like Amazon and Roku and all that stuff.
So then members will actually be able to watch the bonus content on their TVs along with the full episode.
It just takes time to build.
So putting together the first iteration of the website was not super difficult.
You get a person to put together the layout.
But then getting the actual core coding and development and apps and everything is actually going to be a much longer process, but we needed money to do it.
So we had to start a website.
And then once we got a bunch of members, I was like, okay, now I'll start improving it.
And then we're going to do a lot more.
I mean, this app is going to have other kinds of content.
We keep saying over and over again, we're going to go to the range, but then, you know, Luke, Luke didn't come to the range.
So.
luke rudkowski
How dare you?
tim pool
It's true.
We ran drills.
luke rudkowski
I had a family.
unidentified
I ain't going to say nothing.
tim pool
Oh, yeah!
Yeah, that'd work.
I would love to.
Yes, indeed.
in the thinking cap from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
Oh yeah!
I mean, now it helped, definitely.
lydia smith
Yeah, that'd work.
tim pool
J. Jav Tondes says, Tim, get Ed Calderon on the show.
He is an ex-counter-NARC agent from Mexico.
I would love to.
He's got great insights about how cartels will become a bigger problem in America in
the future.
Reach him at edsmanifesto.com.
lydia smith
Yes, indeed.
tim pool
Definitely.
lydia smith
We will note that down.
tim pool
He's in my mind.
Dan tick dantic vs. Says been following y'all for about a year now
Thanks for preparing me for 2020.
Luke's video with Wesley Clark was shocking.
Heard you guys like RPGs.
Ever heard of Rifts?
Bebop is my second favorite anime.
luke rudkowski
You think that video was shocking when you watched it?
Imagine being the interviewer with Wesley Clark and seeing his face and being like, oh boy, I'm probably in trouble too.
So yeah, that was pretty, yeah.
ian crossland
I've never heard of Rifts, have you?
tim pool
No, I haven't.
I haven't heard of it.
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
Maybe you have heard of it.
tim pool
I started playing Genshin Impact a little bit.
What is it?
It's a newish game.
It's open world RPG.
I think it's online.
I haven't played enough to be able to tell you too much about it, but it's like very anime style.
Kind of like Breath of the Wild in some ways.
We'll see.
I don't know if I'm going to be into it and actually end up playing it.
ian crossland
Valheim's pretty good.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a survival Viking game.
It's five people.
It's got up to four million views in four weeks or something.
Four million users.
tim pool
So, Seven Empires says, none of us are virgins.
The establishment has funked us all.
By Cardano.
What's Cardano?
luke rudkowski
I think it's another privacy cryptocurrency.
tim pool
I've been hearing about it from people.
ian crossland
It's made by the same guys that did... ooh, jeez, I don't want to mispronounce this.
Ada is the company that does it.
God, what did they do?
They were involved with Ethereum, I think.
I don't know, to be honest.
I'd love to get their developers in here, though.
tim pool
I mean, I've been seeing people tweet about it.
Let's read some more about my friends.
Don't forget to smash that like button and subscribe.
Fox Kuhn says, Fascism is a form of far-right authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.
Interesting.
ian crossland
Wait, I want to clarify on Cardano.
I think ADA is the token, and Cardano is the company.
Is that right?
drew holden
Yeah.
tim pool
Tyrell Wilson says, for my steaks, as long as it's still bleeding and moving, then it's perfect.
drew holden
There it is.
Oh, could not agree more.
tim pool
Trying to get away.
drew holden
Yeah.
tim pool
Chasing it down and you jump on it.
ian crossland
Some people, Steve Rinella, Rogan's buddy.
Did you ever see Meat Eater where they all went hunting together?
lydia smith
Yeah.
ian crossland
He'd like kill an animal, cut out the gullet, and like eat it raw, eat the liver raw.
lydia smith
Geez.
drew holden
All right, that's a little bit too metal to me, I'll be honest.
tim pool
Aren't there like little parasites in it?
unidentified
I don't know.
lydia smith
Sometimes, yeah.
ian crossland
You gotta ask Steve Rinella.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Crazy.
drew holden
It's very funny.
I remember we were talking, my girlfriend and I, about how the human body can no longer process meat because that was just a thing that I thought was true.
Totally not true.
You can eat raw meat.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
I eat steak tartare all the time.
luke rudkowski
There's some people that do, yeah.
tim pool
Steak tartare is amazing.
lydia smith
I've never had it.
tim pool
It's like the quail egg.
lydia smith
It's like steak sushi.
drew holden
Yeah.
I always just assumed you had to cook it.
tim pool
As long as it's good quality and parasite free.
unidentified
Well, don't do chicken.
tim pool
I went to a burger place once and I got a grilled chicken sandwich and I was sitting at the bar and the lady was like, what can I get you?
And I was like, I'll get the chicken sandwich and I'll have that one medium, medium rare as a joke.
It was like, so the guy next to me said he wanted his well done.
And I said, I'll get the chicken sandwich, but I'll have mine medium rare.
And she goes, okay.
And I was like, wait, I was kidding.
luke rudkowski
I can't do that.
tim pool
And she went, oh.
And then I was like, OK.
ian crossland
I would have left.
drew holden
I would have fled.
tim pool
Well, I imagine she would have gone back and the guy would have been like, I can't make a chicken sandwich medium rare.
drew holden
OK, good point.
ian crossland
Because of salmonella.
And you can't do cake because of trichinosis.
But for some reason, beef is OK and fish is OK.
tim pool
Well, sushi grade fish.
Otherwise, you can get sick.
Let's see.
Coldylocks Productions says, We can push Russia around because we broke their backs financially in the Cold War with the Star Wars project, making them think we were developing extremely advanced tech, and they tried to match us, spending all their money.
unidentified
Ooh.
tim pool
Wow, crazy.
drew holden
They also just kind of ran out.
Central planning doesn't work too well, unfortunately, for the Soviets.
They learned the hard way that freedom and free enterprise do tend to work pretty effectively.
tim pool
Sammie Joel says, Tim, will you please get Fleckas talks on the show?
Also, I think that Biden-Indiana Jones meme was made by his producer, Richard Ratboid.
Fleckas is always welcome.
lydia smith
He has a standing invite and he knows this.
tim pool
We've never had him on, have we?
lydia smith
We haven't, no.
tim pool
Well, Fleckas, come on the show.
You should be on the show.
Ultimate Bonaire says, so I don't think that Oregon would ever allow those counties to merge into Idaho because then they'd lose all the money from those counties.
It's kind of the same up in Washington with Seattle.
Everyone in the state hates them.
That's the problem.
drew holden
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, look, you've got to have a strong petition.
Like, you can't, look, the left knows how to protest.
They know how to occupy an office or sit in a street and it works.
They put pressure on, they get it done.
And to be honest, they have the advantage of being able to be violent because, you know, Republicans or people on the right are second class citizens in that regard.
If you do anything in any capacity that's violent, they will, it'll be every headline news outlet, but Antifa can, you know, burn down entire cities and Yeah, you know, it's a peaceful protest.
But I'm saying, get organized.
You know, you can't just be like, we voted.
You've got to be like, we are going to boycott.
We are going to general strike.
Imagine if they're like, we want these counties because they make us money.
And everyone said, well, we're going to go on a general strike then.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Then what are they going to say?
Now you're just being hampered by this.
I mean, wasn't there some big thing, like a bunch of tractors came out and like blocked roads or something?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Where was that in Finland?
lydia smith
It was in Finland.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's crazy stuff.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yeah, I remember.
That was the first one, right?
That was exciting, yeah.
had 45 original cases.
lydia smith
Yeah, I remember.
drew holden
That was the first one, right?
lydia smith
That's exciting.
Yeah, good times.
tim pool
Michael Revell says this team, Luke, Tim, Ian, and Lydia's Mr. Holden is cool too.
I look forward to this every night.
Keep up the hard work.
Well, so long as y'all subscribe and go to the website, become members, smash the like button and super chat, we'll just keep doing it.
But the ultimate goal with all of this is to grow the company and hire more people and do more awesome work.
ian crossland
I love having you on, Drew.
It's really fun.
drew holden
Thank you.
As soon as I heard all you guys' names and then Mr. Holden, I was like, oh God, I'm going to get roasted.
I was like, someone's absolutely going to take a shot at me right now.
unidentified
I was sitting here the whole time, I was like, no, no, no, quick, quick, quick.
tim pool
We got some interesting super chats.
Kevin Bergman says, as a fifth generation Oregonian from the state of Jefferson, I would support greater Idaho.
California has invaded Portland, Pacific Northwest, and taken over our politics.
Yeah.
Mr. Beard says, Wyoming here.
I work in IT at a high school.
We had a delegation from Weld County come through and check out how our school is like.
Wyoming already has voiced support.
I want to see that happen.
Yes, me too.
It would like a pressure release valve for a lot of the hot politics in this country.
drew holden
Yeah.
And that's the other thing, too.
There are an enormous number of benefits, but also talk about an excellent way to decrease political strife between the parties.
lydia smith
Yes.
I actually lived in Weld County for about a year.
It's a wonderful county.
It's very rural.
Super, super low-key.
Farmers, everything's cool and chill.
Far cry from Denver and Boulder.
ian crossland
What's the situation with Weld?
What's happening in Weld County?
lydia smith
They're thinking about moving up to Wyoming.
tim pool
They're on the board with Wyoming and they want to be a part of Wyoming.
lydia smith
Who would, right?
tim pool
Kay Perdue says, I am Canadian.
Our isolation camps are horrifying.
Please check out Chris Sky.
He sends Ubers to the hotels to help us escape.
Really?
ian crossland
I've never in my life.
tim pool
What is going on?
ian crossland
I've never ever considered any ill will towards Canada or concern or I thought it was the most free, awesome country.
Like this is terrifying.
tim pool
It's always been pretty bad.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
All right, what do we got?
Toby Walker says, curious what Ian or any of you think about Cardano over Ethereum.
Solves gas fee and governance issues of Ethereum.
I don't know anything about it.
ian crossland
I hear it's like the next generation Ethereum.
lydia smith
Really?
tim pool
Maybe I will look into it.
Maybe I will look into it.
Jonathan Westcott says, instead of greater Idaho, they need new states so they have less concentrated power, more electoral seats, can flip, and aren't held hostage by large states.
Well, look, if you break up a bunch of rural counties into their own states, then the Republicans just win.
Right.
And the blue cities are like, eh, it's not fair.
drew holden
Yeah, and no one will agree with it, right?
Even writ large.
And I think that the beauty of being able to get into other states is that you get around that sort of concern.
tim pool
Alright, The Civic Nationalist says the American Revolution was started by smugglers, the tea tax was paid in Britain, and was propaganda by smugglers because they didn't want to lose on the monopoly.
Come back home, you can give up this thing called presidency, sing God Save the Queen.
I wonder if there could ever be any circumstance in which the US decides to be a part of the Commonwealth again.
drew holden
No.
As an Irish-American, I will say I am strongly against this very idea.
tim pool
Did you guys see that video that went viral of the Irish guy at the checkpoint?
lydia smith
Oh my goodness.
I love that man.
I'm channeling him.
tim pool
It's just audio, but apparently it's an Irish guy, and he pulls up to a checkpoint in Ireland, and then he just starts... They're like, how's it going, sir?
Where are you going?
He's like, none of your goddamn business!
He starts yelling at him, and then he starts screaming like... It was really amazing.
He's like, we fought for aid!
100 years!
drew holden
And Nyatria's worse than the British army did!
tim pool
It's just a really- That's amazing.
drew holden
I gotta listen to that.
This sounds incredibly up my alley.
tim pool
It's just audio, but someone shows this super ripped farmer guy waving the Irish flag, and then it shows a cop waving a rainbow flag.
lydia smith
Like the dogs meme, yeah.
drew holden
Amazing.
tim pool
It's just, it's just crazy audio where, like, it's really interesting to hear someone say, like, we fought for 800 years and now you would treat us worse than the British Army, and I'm like, that is bold!
And then the best part, oh man, I don't know a whole lot about politics between Ireland and the UK, just a little bit on the surface.
I know about, like, the IRA, I went to Northern Ireland, I went to, um...
drew holden
Belfast.
luke rudkowski
We went there together during the burning of the effigies that they had there.
tim pool
But once a really interesting thing happens is he's like, the Irish guy says, you believe all this stuff?
You believe all this stuff?
And then he's like, do you watch the news, sir?
And he's like, oh, the news.
And he's like, do you watch RTE?
And he's like, RTE is shite.
And then he's like, well, what about the BBC?
unidentified
And he goes, oh, the Crown News Service.
tim pool
And I'm like, this Irish guy is laying into these people.
drew holden
Amazing.
tim pool
No, but it's really interesting for them to recommend the BBC to an Irish guy.
I was like, I'd imagine that would piss off a lot of them.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
You think that's who I'm going to be listening to for my news?
drew holden
Yeah.
tim pool
But then again, look, you know, we went to Belfast.
I don't know a whole lot about the internal politics.
luke rudkowski
There's a lot.
drew holden
Other history.
And I think a lot of it probably comes down to there's a certain provisional sensibility that some Irish, I think, have probably in Dublin and the surrounding areas where like, well, why wouldn't you like England and the rest of the Europeans?
And I would imagine some of the folks in the rural areas have a A little bit more sensitivity about these sorts of things.
lydia smith
Same as America.
In that way.
tim pool
All right, Toby Walker says, please look into having a blockchain expert like Charles Hoskinson on the show.
I also hope y'all enjoyed the bush tail coffee.
Brush tail coffee.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Did we have that?
ian crossland
No, I haven't had it yet.
I've been drinking Krigler coffee these days.
lydia smith
Krigler coffee, I highly recommend.
ian crossland
It's delicious.
But I'll take the brushtail next.
tim pool
Politically Defiant says, Tim, Idaho already has a seaport.
It's Lewiston, Idaho, as the Snake River connects to the Columbia River, which connects the Pacific Ocean via Portland, Oregon.
Hope everyone has a most wonderful weekend.
Stay epically awesome.
We will have a very wonderful weekend.
It will be fun.
The weather's getting really nice.
drew holden
Good point about the Snake River, too.
I'd forgotten that.
tim pool
Michael Witten Campbell says, Eastern Washington of Washington state talked about this two years ago or three years ago.
They wanted to go to Idaho, which would split the state in half.
Could you imagine if Eastern Washington and Oregon joined mega Idaho?
ian crossland
Ultra Idaho.
tim pool
Or just became North Idaho.
lydia smith
Greater Idaho.
tim pool
And then you had North and South Idaho.
lydia smith
I love it.
unidentified
Hey.
ian crossland
I hope they just call it Idaho, not greater Idaho.
lydia smith
I like greater Idaho.
luke rudkowski
There's so many puns.
tim pool
Well, we got a very, we got a very serious correction on our, on our, on our, uh, thank you chat story about that.
unidentified
Um, what, what kind of vegetable eggplant?
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
Is it the potato?
See, I was avoiding saying it because he says, excuse me.
I think you mean mean potatix.
We can't say potato anymore because the O is, you know, we got to get rid of that.
drew holden
It's gendered or something.
tim pool
All right, Shotty Vice, where he says, quick PSA, completely off topic, make sure to drink water.
I had my first kidney stone, and oh boy, getting a catheter hurts a ton, a crap ton.
lydia smith
The worst.
ian crossland
Amen.
drew holden
Taking another sip, great point.
lydia smith
Drink your water.
ian crossland
Always a great reminder.
74% water.
tim pool
I was told by the doctor to put a little bit of lemon juice in your water, but drink it with a straw because the acid can be bad for your teeth.
ian crossland
And your lips, probably.
tim pool
Cassius Cam says, I'm from the state of Jefferson.
We already call it that up here.
We produce nearly all the beef and water for California.
We just want to be left alone.
drew holden
Interesting.
tim pool
Well, then just start acting like you're the state of Jefferson.
I mean, it sounds like you are.
They fly the flags up there.
drew holden
The agricultural differences are curious too, right?
Because, I mean, I think that that's one of the other reasons why these places have so much value, why California would be so unwilling to lose them, but why they'd be so attractive to other places.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Hellbound Wolf says, you talk about fifth generational warfare and how our colleges have been infiltrated by the Chinese.
Trans ideology started in colleges.
It was our youth, uh, willingly.
Well, look, I, for the sake of YouTube, this is too spicy and they're going to get me banned if I read the super chat.
So I know they're watching, but I'll just say he's talking about a lot of leftist politics and how it's, you know.
drew holden
We're all on campus now.
In the words of Andrew Sullivan, everything about American public life starts on college
campuses these days and transmutes away off really quickly.
tim pool
Jacob N.M. Clutter says, Tim, Article 5 doesn't apply to new states or land transfers.
That falls under Article 4, which requires approval of both states in question and congressional
approval.
Article 4, Convention of States!
There you go.
drew holden
Good fact check, though.
tim pool
Casey Shultz says, Mr. Potato Head is bad now, then how long until they try to cancel and erase that series?
Oh boy.
lydia smith
Mx?
tim pool
There's a character in Tor Story.
Oh yes, Mix.
So if Mr. Potato Head is bad now, then how long until they try to cancel and erase that series?
lydia smith
Oh boy. I'm surprised they haven't already.
tim pool
Sparky.
drew holden
Toy Story.
tim pool
Sparky the Byros has just had a thought.
If Mr. and Mrs. Potatixhead are now socially illegal, are they going to digitally remove them from all this Toy Story mode?
drew holden
Oh my god, amazing.
tim pool
No, what they're gonna do is they're gonna digitally alter them to be identical.
And then just have them both be called, they'll be referred to as Mix.
Mix Potatixhead and Mix Potatixhead.
drew holden
And then they'll have to go in and they'll have to change the subtitles.
So that both of them are MX Potatixhead.
luke rudkowski
I'm surprised they're not Z and Y. I know, right?
tim pool
What if we had that?
Says Tim the gang y'all got to get a 12.7 millimeter by 99 50 BMG anti-material rifle long live the Republic
God bless y'all and stay safe Sounds like that could do some damage
ian crossland
Anti-material meant for destroying material is over there.
tim pool
It's for blowing up helicopters and yeah, it's like yeah Somebody somebody commented in the chat before and they
were like 50 BMG for when you need to remove when you need to kill a building
Yes, please JK says in Newfoundland, they put the province under the
province under house arrest and called an election The size of Japan and 600,000 residents, four deaths and months between cases.
What did you at by?
Our provincial greeting.
What did you at by?
I don't know.
Well, it's beyond me.
I don't live there.
drew holden
But that's insane.
Like that's, and again, an empowered government.
Why wouldn't they?
Yeah.
tim pool
Tim says, if greater Idaho idea occur, then precedent set.
Counties can vote to do the same.
Dangerous and stupid idea.
Split divide the U.S.
like Israel-Palestine.
It already is!
lydia smith
It's too late.
tim pool
Look at the past several elections.
It's been like 50-50 and struggling.
You know what I mean?
There's no unified culture anymore.
ian crossland
It wouldn't be split like Israel and Palestine though.
Those are two different languages and religions.
tim pool
It would just be different states.
Nah, that's what's happening.
drew holden
But I also think that if you had different states it would be, like as you mentioned earlier, a really good release valve.
Where you wouldn't have people who were resentful and frustrated by the fact that they had been politically disenfranchised.
They would just be mad about normal things.
tim pool
But I think that would just redraw lines and get us right for a second.
ian crossland
It would do that.
A lot of people would have their hand in the honeypot trying to get a bonus with those laundry redraws.
tim pool
The red states would become 10 times red or the blue states would become 10 times bluer.
It would solidify all the political divide.
And that's a really dangerous precedent, but it's, it's, it's, I don't see, I don't see a way around what's happening.
The, the, the, the divide in this country is so insane that you like, I literally tweeted.
So there was a, there was an image of those people in those pods and you know, the kids in the school.
And I said, if you're, if you're, if you're crazy enough to do this, then you deserve what you get, go vote for whatever you want.
And I got a response from a tribal leftist I know who says, you're so dumb.
Why would these kids want to spit on each other?
And I'm like, slow down there, buddy.
I didn't say the pods.
I didn't say anything.
It was a picture of kids in school.
For all he knew, I could have been saying you were stupid enough to go to these schools in the first place when you are advocating for them to be closed.
The point is, how is it that when I say an image of these kids in these pods is insane, A guy who advocates for schools to remain closed is now saying, well they should be in the pods if they don't spit at each other.
No!
They shouldn't be in the school according to you!
But these people have no principles.
The tribalism is everything.
I just hate you because you're in the wrong tribe.
And this is going to lead to people fighting each other worse than we've seen in a long time.
And nothing's stopping it.
No, the Democrats are making it worse.
We went over this the other night with the Echelon Insights polls.
You see this?
Where Republicans were asked to rate their highest, their strongest concerns.
drew holden
Oh, I did see this, I did see this.
tim pool
Illegal immigration, and taxation, and police.
drew holden
And Trump voters were the number one, I think, among Democrats.
tim pool
And then white nationalists, and then white supremacy, because the Democrats are screaming in the face that Republicans are evil, and Republicans are sitting there going, I think illegal immigration is bad for our economy.
You know what someone, I think it was Jesse Kelly.
So conservatives lost the culture war because they weren't fighting it.
drew holden
Yeah.
tim pool
Or he said the Democrats won the culture war because they were the only ones fighting it.
drew holden
Yeah.
tim pool
So you've got all of these people who are asked, and they're conservative, they're Republican, what do they care about?
And they give you a policy issue.
You're sitting here as the left is screaming, threatening to go after you, to kick your representatives out of Congress, to send the feds to go arrest them.
to claim that any kind of violence from these Trump supporters is the end of the world.
They're calling it 1-6.
It was 1-6.
We need a 1-6 commission.
That's what they're saying.
Meanwhile, Antifa burned down all of these cities, $2 billion in damage, and that was the insurance cap, so it was substantially more than that.
Nothing.
There is a battle happening.
There is a conflict going on.
And look, the solution to whatever it is, is out of my reach.
I can tell you, like I've said over and over again, violence isn't going to solve any of these things because we're in fifth generational warfare.
So, maybe people need to assert their rights and say, we want an Article 4 convention to redraw these lines, because at the very least, then we will have a pressure release valve from the people who are- the people right now trapped in these places, like in Jefferson, are probably boiling over, furious.
Give them that release.
It may be bad in the long run because it just hyperpolarizes states, but it's better to alleviate the tension than let it explode.
What happens when they say, no, we won't give you this reprieve?
And then the people in Jefferson say, then we're gonna call our buddies and we're gonna set up a barricade, set up our own police force.
drew holden
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
And then chaos.
drew holden
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't know, man.
Allison C says, everyone's all worked up about Lady Mockingjay's dogs.
No one gives a damn about the dog walker who was shot four times in the chest.
Elites!
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
lydia smith
He's doing well, I guess.
luke rudkowski
Really?
lydia smith
Yeah, he's coming back.
drew holden
That's good.
lydia smith
Poor guy.
tim pool
Wow, crazy.
We have to pay for that.
luke rudkowski
We were talking about that on the show, and it's even steeper in the United Kingdom.
lydia smith
Yeah, it's bad.
tim pool
OMG Puppy says, FBI investigates Lady Gaga's stolen dogs.
In Seattle, the John Brown gun club shot two black teenagers joyriding through Chaz.
The city doesn't care.
Welcome to America in 2022.
unidentified
2021.
tim pool
Why did I say that?
ian crossland
Because you're a prophet.
tim pool
That's right.
Julius Kamina says, pretty sure Norm Macdonald, Dave Chappelle, and Danny DeVito took the dog.
Man, are they screwed when they get caught.
Those guys specifically, huh?
Captain Spanky says, Tim, I'm in Harney County, Oregon.
Today was the first I've heard of greater Idaho.
Our county voted around 75 to 80 percent Trump.
Hopefully it comes to fruition.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
ian crossland
Yeah, hopefully.
tim pool
Yeah.
All right, let's see.
DJ Madero says the State of Jefferson was going to be announced on Monday, December 8th, 1941.
Just think if they had done it on Friday, December 5th, 1941.
What would the West Coast of the United States look like today?
I mean, look, California's too big.
I think California, Jefferson should exist.
It makes a lot of sense.
But, you know, then people will... You know, actually, I'm curious as to what made, like, these cities in Oregon, Seattle, and Portland so blue that turned the whole state under the control of the Democrats.
You know what I mean?
drew holden
Yeah, I think it's just a size thing, right?
Like, so many of these counties are so sparsely populated that all it takes is a big city or two that's overwhelmingly left-leaning, and it's enough to skew it pretty meaningfully.
unidentified
Yeah.
drew holden
That's my guess.
And then, like, even Washington State and in Oregon, even 10 years ago, there were at least a number of Republicans, right?
And, like, they've all...
All in one case and most in the other have been wiped out.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
Jonathan McLee says Charlie LaDuff is now suing Governor Whitmer for covering up the COVID numbers in Michigan, accusing her of all the things Cuomo has done.
Ooh, interesting.
We should reach out to Charlie.
drew holden
Yeah, and it seems like there's pretty good evidence that they made a lot of the same decisions that Cuomo did.
tim pool
Oh yeah, they did.
lydia smith
Tons of them.
drew holden
And are covering up all the numbers.
unidentified
All right, let's just grab, we'll grab one more super chat.
tim pool
Eric Rivera 219 says, this $20 is for Ian.
Tim, we tune in for the whole team.
You preach freedom of speech, but are always condescending or cutting Ian off.
A lot of people think like him.
Well then.
ian crossland
I will say he's not always condescending.
Very rarely, but in those heated moments where we maybe condescend each other, it is not intentional.
That is not the goal.
Tim and I like to go at each other.
We don't.
I mean, I don't know.
I can't speak for you.
I just let myself get heated when I'm talking to you.
tim pool
I find it entertaining, engaging, and I'm a better and more vibrant person afterwards.
And I think it'll be another month and a half or so.
But it might pick up.
You know, the beginning of the year is always kind of crummy in terms of just like engagement.
Everyone's kind of worn out, especially after an election.
Everybody who works the political and news beat knows that like the few months after
any election, everyone's like, stop, enough.
I don't want to think about this anymore.
And then, you know, it just goes down.
So show your support, subscribe, like button, go to TimCast.com.
And we're going to have some exclusive bonus material, probably just a short extra bonus segment today where we talk about, what are we going to talk about?
ian crossland
The Golden Trump.
tim pool
The Golden Trump.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
And you're going to want to hear this one.
lydia smith
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
The Gilded Trump.
lydia smith
We got some opinions.
tim pool
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drew holden
No, I don't really have anything to shout out.
Go follow the Temcast.
I mean, that's what you should be doing.
Throw me a follow on Twitter, too.
It's Drew Holden 360.
But yeah, that's that's all I got.
luke rudkowski
Well, on Twitter, Instagram, even YouTube, I am Luke WeAreChange.
My main channel is WeAreChange.
And I forgot to say this.
I also have like my own members area that I've been doing it sporadically for like seven years on some tips and tricks.
You can check that out on WeAreChange.org forward slash donate.
And because you do, I'm here.
So thanks so much for having me, guys.
ian crossland
You guys can also follow me at iancrossland.net where I sell merchandise like this delicious Free the Code mug where I was drinking Kregler coffee out of earlier.
It's magnificent.
Drew, always awesome to have you.
Adam Kregler has his own coffee brand called Kregler Coffee.
Always awesome having you here, man.
Time flies when you're here.
I love it.
I hope you come back soon.
drew holden
Hey, pleasure's mine.
Thank you guys for having me.
Seriously, it's fascinating every time I'm on here.
I love the conversation.
And it does.
I mean, I've never had a moment on here, and I'll be honest, I can't always say this about everywhere I've been, but I've never had a moment here where I'm like, what are we going to talk about next?
We've always got something to talk about.
tim pool
Five people, you know what I mean?
And different worldviews and opinions.
If there's ever like a lull in the show, I'll be like, Luke, the government?
Ian, free the code?
ian crossland
Let's go.
tim pool
The Federal Reserve?
luke rudkowski
DMT?
Okay.
ian crossland
All the above.
I guess that's Monday's show.
tim pool
No, but it'll be like, you'll sense that lull coming in and someone will be like, I just don't agree that Pac-Man was the greatest character.
And then as everyone starts to like slow down, I'll go, it's interesting too, but I wonder what the government has to say.
lydia smith
What do you think, Luke?
tim pool
Oh, the government!
luke rudkowski
Ron Swanson is my spirit animal.
ian crossland
I love him too.
Also, I forgot Lydia.
I didn't forget.
lydia smith
I was just waiting to... I'm here in the corner.
I pushed the buttons.
I like to talk about the science.
I love the science.
I really like talking about it because I worked in the hospital.
So anytime we have content about COVID and stuff, I'm always interested in that.
But you can follow me on Twitter and Mines.
I'm Sour Patch Lids on those platforms.
And then I'm Real Sour Patch Lids on Instagram and Gab.
tim pool
We will see you all over at TimCast.com as we talk about the large golden Trump.
Thanks for hanging out.
We'll see you there.
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