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Timcast IRL - Twitter NUKES Antifa FINALLY After They Smash Democrat HQ w/ Matt Braynard
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ian crossland
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unidentified
you you
Joe Biden.
tim pool
Joe Biden's America.
You know, they said that in Trump's America, Antifa was running rampant and there was nothing we could do to stop it.
The media in Trump's America was defending Antifa, saying that they were just peaceful protesters.
That news you heard about destruction and vandals and right-wing conspiracy theories.
While there are some violent people, the protests were overwhelmingly peaceful.
And then something happened.
Joe Biden became president, inherited this American problem.
And I guess now Antifa is wreaking havoc in Joe Biden's America one day.
Not even one day.
It's the inauguration day.
They went out and they smashed up the Democrat headquarters.
I think it was in Portland.
Among other protests, burning American flags, trashing things in Seattle.
And the internet lit up.
Ragging on Joe Biden.
And then something kind of hilarious happened.
Twitter has banned several high-profile Antifa-related accounts.
Finally.
Yeah, after all of these years, the years spent of complaining about left-wing extremists and terrorists organizing on their platform and them doing nothing, as soon as it's a problem for Joe Biden, Gone.
Wonderful.
So we're gonna talk a bit about this stuff.
We've got some other stories.
In the same vein, there's this think tank guy who tweeted a disparaging comment about Mike Pence.
Well, I shouldn't say disparaging.
He tweeted that he should be... I don't know.
I won't even get into it.
He was bordering on threats of violence.
He lost his job now.
So it's funny how we're making it this far into the double standard now applying to the left.
But it's all in the benefit of them.
So we're going to go through these stories.
Joining us today, we've got Matt Brainerd.
Matt, do you want to introduce yourself?
Explain who you are, what you do?
matt braynard
Sure.
Well, I'm probably best known as the former director of data and strategy for President Trump's campaign in 2016.
I lead Look Ahead America, a 5-1-C-3 dedicated to registering, educating, and turning out to vote disaffected patriotic Americans, as well as fighting for election reform and against corporate censorship.
And most recently, I led the Voter Integrity Project, which brought me here last time, so I'm very glad to be a return guest.
tim pool
Right on, right on.
Lugarkowski is here, peddling t-shirts.
luke rudkowski
Howdy!
I am your friendly parking lot dweller and, as you mentioned, very humble t-shirt vendor that sells all the shirts that he always wears.
How pathetic am I?
unidentified
We have a bedroom here for Luke.
tim pool
He doesn't want it.
So when he's like, I live in a parking lot, he's choosing to do this.
luke rudkowski
I'm a poor man.
unidentified
Help.
luke rudkowski
Give me your monies.
Go now on thebestpoliticalshirts.com or we are change.org forward slash shirts, whatever it is.
tim pool
That is a pretty good shirt you got there, to be honest.
We have the guerrilla shirt.
It's just not political at all.
And I don't think our shirts are ever going to be really political.
They might just be, like, jokey, you know, maybe cultural, but it's pretty good.
matt braynard
He doesn't have enough room for all of the news bureaus there that could be listed.
luke rudkowski
I know, it should be like a NASCAR suit, to be honest with you.
tim pool
Because Vox is not on there.
luke rudkowski
I haven't checked it.
Nope, not Vox.
lydia smith
Oh, man.
luke rudkowski
Is Washington Post?
We'll make another shirt, don't worry.
We'll make a full shirt.
No, this is my next shirt.
My next shirt is going to be a NASCAR with all the corporate mainstream media logos in it.
It's going to say corporate sellout right here.
lydia smith
I love it.
luke rudkowski
I'm going to write that down so I don't forget it.
matt braynard
I get a cut of that, right?
luke rudkowski
Yes, 5%.
ian crossland
Yes, I am a gorilla.
At least a descendant of one or we have a similar ancestor, I believe.
I am the token liberal on the show, and I have smoked EMT.
tim pool
I don't think you're a liberal, bro.
ian crossland
No, but I'm the token liberal on the show, but I'm not liberal.
Undercover liberal.
Undercover conservative?
tim pool
You're definitely not a liberal.
Liberals are in a weird space.
ian crossland
Nah, I think you gotta be liberal and conservative if you wanna live a balanced life.
Just in the right time, you know?
Sometimes you wanna be conservative, sometimes you wanna be liberal about changing something.
Sometimes you wanna make sure something doesn't change, like conservation.
unidentified
It's true.
It's true.
tim pool
I am in the corner.
lydia smith
I do press all the buttons.
tim pool
I'm wearing glasses tonight.
unidentified
Here's Tim.
tim pool
pressing all the buttons.
Yikes.
lydia smith
I am in the corner.
I do press all the buttons.
I'm wearing glasses tonight.
tim pool
Here's Tim.
There's so much news.
We also have Rachel Maddow crying because Joe Biden won and Andrew Sullivan also crying.
Who are these people who started crying when Joe Biden became president?
They cried when Trump became president and they cried when Trump left the presidency?
It's like they'll cry for anything, man.
You know what's funny?
I once read that men cry once a month and women cry six times a month.
But I gotta be honest, I can't remember the last time I cried.
I don't know.
Maybe I'm just a cold-hearted dark villain with no... Do you want to cry?
Nah, I got nothing to cry over.
matt braynard
Yeah, I think six is a little low, too.
lydia smith
Depends on the woman.
Let's put it that way.
tim pool
Well, Rachel Maddow, I think, does cry a lot.
And I mean that... I'm not saying that to be like, haha, she cries a lot.
No, she really does.
When the Mueller report, you know, came out that Trump wasn't, you know, colluding with the Russians, she was like, fighting back tears, and that was really weird.
ian crossland
I've noticed if I fast, I'm more likely to cry, like, more in touch with my emotions.
I can get to crying quicker.
tim pool
More in touch, though, but not in control of?
ian crossland
I don't know.
Like, I could make myself cry.
tim pool
It's easier to feel things.
You know, it's like an acting technique.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's an acting technique.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know?
Or I could just, like, not.
Anyway, they cried, so we've got a bunch of stories to go through, and this guy lost his job, and it's crazy, and, you know, Antifa getting banned.
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But let's get to the news.
Most of you may have seen the reports from Reuters this morning.
Anti-fascist protesters vandalize buildings in Portland and Seattle.
They report, anti-government and anti-fascist protesters in Portland and Seattle vandalized a Democratic Party office and other buildings and scuffled with police on Wednesday, protesting against President Joe Biden's inauguration.
People dressed in black and with their faces covered broke windows in the glass door at the Democratic Party of Oregon business office in Portland.
Spray painting an anarchist symbol over the party sign.
Video posted on social media showed.
We don't want Biden.
We want revenge for police murders, imperialist wars, and fascist massacres.
Red A banner they marched under.
The new Democratic president was sworn in on Wednesday, urging unity and restoration after Republican Donald Trump's divisive tenure.
Donald Trump was so divisive when, you know, Joe Biden started his presidency by saying this country is being torn apart by white supremacists and nativists and sounded an awful lot like he was calling the other half of the country deplorables, if you know what I mean.
So spare me this rhetoric about, you know, Biden being the one who truly does want unity.
I'll respect him trying to tone things down.
But at least I can say this.
He used and abused and is tossing out Antifa.
The Democrats defended him.
What was that meme you mentioned, Luke?
luke rudkowski
In Toy Story, there's a scene where the toys are being thrown out, and right now there's a meme going around with the toys being BLM and Antifa, and the big, you know, the child in there being, of course, Joe Biden, throwing them away.
tim pool
Throw him in the garbage.
matt braynard
The real test though is when and if these Antifa members get arrested, is his campaign
going to continue to bail them out of prison?
Because that's how you really know if he's done with them or not.
luke rudkowski
Yes, because Kamala Harris also was raising funds for a lot of the rioters that broke
the law.
And also what's really interesting is, you know, we had the mainstream media hyperbolically
screaming about the potential violence at all the 50 capitals.
That's coming our way!
They were screaming about it at the highest decibel of annoyance possible.
But now, we do have violence, but there's a different kind of violence that just gets totally swept under the rug.
No one's talking about this.
Like, what's going on here?
It's ridiculous.
tim pool
Conservatives?
are aware of the double standard.
And I'm sorry, but saying there's a double standard is pointless right now.
And the Republicans are more than happy to stand to stand to attention for the Democrats to help them pretend to provide balance to their agenda.
So Mitch McConnell with his, you know, turtle smile.
Well, I'm totally grateful for Joe Biden.
And there you go.
That's it.
He stands up.
He claps and cheers.
All these Republicans are clapping and cheering.
Yay, the Democrats won.
And there's no one actually fighting for conservatives.
No, maybe a couple people.
And it's not even necessarily conservatives, but like just against the left, you have this faux resistance.
So what's happening now, in my opinion, And it could have gone either way, you know.
I thought Joe Biden was going to throw them a little bit more red meat, maybe throw them a bone to placate them.
But I guess these people just want chaos.
So it's really funny because when we saw them destroying the windows at the Democratic Party HQ, these viral videos on Twitter, someone tweeted that it was just like what the U.S.
normally does, funding terrorists in the Middle East who then eventually turn on us and start causing damage to, right?
Isn't that funny?
So the Mujahideen, for instance, and then al-Qaeda.
So they get these Antifa people to go around smashing everything up, and they say, oh no, look at Trump's America!
And now that it's Biden's America, and they go around smashing things up, it's like, it's their fault.
luke rudkowski
There was tear gas deployed in major U.S.
cities because of it.
tim pool
This was Joe Biden's Gestapo stomping out anti-racist and pro-freedom protesters.
matt braynard
Anti-fascists.
tim pool
Anti-fascists.
They were just trying to help.
And Joe Biden's Gestapo stomped them out.
luke rudkowski
Which is, again, a 180-degree turn from where we were six months ago, where Tom Cotton wrote a New York Times editorial piece talking about how we need to send in the military to deal with Black Lives Matter.
Huge controversy.
The New York Times editor got fired because of allowing an opinion piece.
tim pool
Forced to resign.
luke rudkowski
Yes.
tim pool
Or I should say, he resigned in shame.
luke rudkowski
As I say, potato, potato.
You know what went on.
You know what happened there.
And now it's a big controversy.
It's not even talked about, but I remember seeing one of the Antifa signs saying, we don't want a Biden administration.
We want vengeance.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
I have a picture, I believe.
luke rudkowski
Yes.
And it's a pretty visceral picture, but people need to understand the larger base of Antifa are not big Biden supporters.
I don't think they ever were in the first place.
tim pool
They weren't.
And so this is one of the issues I had with high-profile conservative personalities that would say, like, Antifa is the militant wing of the Democrat Party.
And I'm like, nah, they hate Democrats.
And they will punch a liberal in the face.
matt braynard
But Democrats were eager to defend them as long as they were making Trump look bad.
tim pool
So crazy.
Yep.
ian crossland
Dangerous, too.
matt braynard
Well, what are they going to do?
tim pool
Look at the Middle East with Obama and ISIS.
It's perfectly on brand.
There you go.
Yeah, it's exactly their game.
ian crossland
Like when you use an evil demon to corrupt your file.
tim pool
I'm sorry.
I just saw this.
We are ungovernable.
unidentified
Literally.
tim pool
Technically correct.
You know what I think?
There's anarchists like these people who are more like some kind of rabid skunk.
You're like, you know, because the Kongs are like all black, you know what I mean?
Like, and they're wearing all black.
And then they like, they run around and you can't do anything with them because they're rabid.
And that's the kind of anarchist they are.
And you have people like Luke, who are like, I would like to use Bitcoin to buy guns.
And that's the other kind of anarchist, I guess.
luke rudkowski
Non-aggression principle.
And allowing people to, you know, transact peacefully in a way that benefits them without transgressing on anyone's personal liberty or sovereignty or freedom.
tim pool
Did I say buy Bitcoin with guns?
Because I guess that would still work.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Here's a gun.
One Bitcoin, please.
luke rudkowski
He would do that.
That has happened.
There's many interesting aggregate, aggregate transactions that happen.
tim pool
I guess you'd be selling the gun for Bitcoin.
matt braynard
It's a common transaction in Galt's Gulch.
Happens all the time.
tim pool
Yeah.
We don't want Biden.
We want revenge for police murders, imperialist wars, and fascist massacres.
And you know, if you ask them, they probably can't tell you what that means.
ian crossland
Yeah.
Somebody made a statement.
unidentified
Most of those people are foot soldiers, just enraged.
ian crossland
Angry because they're not making any money.
They can see the economy spiraling out of control.
And that's about the level of their- They can't see the economy, dude.
I think they can see it, but they don't understand it.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
They want money printed.
They're the ones who are like, print more money and give it to us!
ian crossland
But prices are going up.
Like, everyone sees that.
tim pool
Yeah, but it's because of them.
It's because, it's like, could you imagine someone being like, we should put peanut butter in the gas tank, and you're like, that'll break the car, and when the car breaks, more peanut butter!
The car is breaking, I'm so angry!
And you're like, you put peanut butter in the gas tank, dude!
The machine doesn't work that way!
luke rudkowski
But also, another interesting facet to understand here, you know, they're gonna eat their own.
They're gonna be fighting each other, as I was saying, you know, a long time on this show, but another one is, you know, a lot of them think that they were promised police reform.
And that's nowhere to be seen a part of this new Biden administration.
Not that I've seen.
I haven't seen any clutter or conversations or talk about any kind of reforming of the police or authorities and that's kind of their main... Dude, they put the militant prosecutor in as VP.
lydia smith
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
They put 25,000 troops in DC.
They started putting up thank you police officer signs all over DC.
luke rudkowski
Didn't Pelosi want a quote crew manned machine guns?
tim pool
Crew manned machine guns.
lydia smith
Isn't that gendered language?
matt braynard
In that situation, it was threatening to them, right?
But what this Justice Department is more than likely going to be doing is going to your neighborhood police departments and hitting them with lawsuits because there are allegations of somebody getting mistreated when the cop was just doing his own job.
So that's a real fear in terms of how they're going to affect policing where you live in your neighborhoods by interfering with the way your local police operations are.
luke rudkowski
And also with the Attorney General.
matt braynard
Right.
luke rudkowski
We recently saw in New York with the Attorney General actually going after the NYPD for their handling of BLM protesters.
So, that's another case that's happening.
tim pool
They exacerbated the problem.
A problem that, I mean, Luke, you and I have been complaining about for a decade now.
Since back when the Black Bloc anarchist types were going around smashing stuff, there was a moment where a dude was stalking me, and then physically attacked me, and Luke grabbed his mask, Well, me and Matt intervened because I saw him kind of going after you and I was like, OK, let me stay close to Tim because I see they're going to try to attack him.
luke rudkowski
And that's when they kind of jumped at you for live streaming behind you.
And as soon as they got behind you, me and Matt kind of jumped in and, you know, took care of that situation.
tim pool
Nine years ago.
luke rudkowski
Nine years ago.
And I mean, what else did people expect?
If you if you normalize violence politically, what did you think was going to happen?
And now the Democrats, the Bidens, they have a huge Huge, huge situation that's very explosive right in their hands that they cultivated themselves.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story you mentioned, Luke.
We got it from the Daily Caller.
Ken Cuccinelli claims Pelosi asked for crew-manned machine guns in Washington.
I believe it.
I kind of believe it.
But let's read.
Acting Deputy Homeland Security Secretary Ken Cuccinelli told Fox News the story Tuesday that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi asked for crew-manned machine guns to be part of security forces in Washington, D.C., ahead of President-elect Joe Biden's inauguration.
Cuccinelli and anchor Martha McCallum were discussing the presence of 25,000 National Guard troops in the nation's capital after pro-Trump rioters stormed the U.S.
Capitol building January 6.
A division, Cuccinelli said, responding to McCallum's assertion that the number of troops is greater than the number in Afghanistan and Iraq.
You have a division.
The last up of thousands of these troops was requested by the Speaker through the Capitol Police.
She even wanted crew-manned machine guns in Washington.
That was rejected because there's simply no use for that in a security arrangement for a civilian undertaking.
Just... So some of this has gone beyond any legitimate security need.
Cuccinelli defended the troops as disciplined and professional, and said they will perform as expected, but added that the state capitol buildings are also important to defend.
The world is not about Washington, he said.
It's supposed to be about everywhere else, which is what the Department of Homeland Security tries to keep secure.
The acting DHS Deputy Secretary confirmed that threats of individual attacks in different places are also absolutely a problem, before criticizing those who focus only on D.C.
He says at the same time, where was the concern for the rest of America?
Congressmen aren't more important than any other American.
It's a good point.
And everyone in this country should be kept safe, and that's what the Department of Homeland Security has endeavored to do through this entire difficult year.
Crew-manned machine guns.
What would that be like?
Full-auto 50 BMG?
matt braynard
It's a team where one's holding it and the other one has to carry the ammo and make sure it doesn't get jammed.
Oh, the belt.
unidentified
Yeah, the belt feeder.
tim pool
Would that be 50 BMG?
I like to imagine they were like mounting 50 BMG just like like like Nancy Pelosi wanted just like to like if a human being gets hit by one of those things they explode right?
luke rudkowski
I wouldn't want to see that.
I think a lot of soldiers have PTSD because of that.
Dark humor.
tim pool
But I want to make a point.
I'm just trying to drive home how insane it sounds.
But here's the thing.
In 2017, when there were thousands of people in DC riding and smashing everything and starting
fires, they organized that protest for Hillary Clinton, not for Donald Trump.
The original plan was that Hillary Clinton was going to be inaugurated and they were going to go and riot.
Trump won and they said, well, we're still going to riot.
So I wonder if the real fear here wasn't the specter of the far right, which typically doesn't do anything, but that they knew, like we saw in Portland and Seattle and Denver and a few other places, Antifa would have come out in DC and destroyed everything were it not for the National Guard.
luke rudkowski
Yep.
And I remember being there in DC.
You were there too.
I think we all got pepper sprayed.
I was temporarily arrested and then talked my way out of it with my press credentials.
But it was a wild, crazy day with a lot of property destruction.
tim pool
We were walking down the street during the riot.
Well, we were running with the riot.
And then the police set up a line.
You charged through it.
Yes.
Getting pepper sprayed heavily. They sprayed you like they sprayed you look at the faces. He ran through the line
Yeah, and then I went into the doorway of this building and then because this is how it works
Everyone followed me and so then I was smashed up against the door by a bunch of antifa and they weren't and some of
the People are nice. They gave me the milk of magnesia or
whatever may locks for my for the pepper spray I I was told three times by the little supervisor that I
was arrested and not free to go. Yeah But eventually, a local news crew, their boss had called saying, you better not arrest our crew.
So when he pulled out this crew, I reminded the lieutenant that, I was like, hey, I talked to you, look, here's my press card.
And he was like, come on.
And a bunch of journalists got pulled out.
Now here's the funny thing about this.
I get pulled out and I tweet just got arrested they released me before you know being taken I was there for like an hour or two and some other journalists did get arrested and they were so mad they were tweeting like I got arrested I'm like dude one guy was screaming at the top of his lungs at the cops You mother heifer!
luke rudkowski
You can't arrest me!
tim pool
And I was like, I'm terribly sorry, officer.
I'm a journalist.
Do your job.
Here's my press card.
Just come and talk to me when you get a chance.
And that was it.
luke rudkowski
I remember seeing the kettle, and I'm like, oh my god, they're going to arrest everyone.
And there was a wall of pepper spray, and they were spraying it.
And I was like, I'm just going to run right through it.
I got hit really hard.
There was another female reporter who just made up and said, I'm pregnant!
I'm pregnant!
I was like, I'm going, I'm going through this.
And then luckily they pulled her out.
But back to the point of machine guns that Nancy Pelosi wants.
She's essentially saying protection for me, but not for thee.
These are anti-gun, anti-second amendment individuals who don't believe in you having the right for personal protection, but they want machine guns for themselves.
tim pool
Are you kidding me?
You've got the NFA.
You can't make, how does it work?
You can't make a machine gun.
luke rudkowski
You can't have a, you could only have machine guns within a certain year.
So, so pretty much machine guns are only available for the super rich that could afford them because there's a limited supply within a certain year that you can, uh, it could, could have them.
So they're grandfathered in there's few remaining, uh, and the few that are, are only available to people who could spend 20, 30, 40, $50,000 on them.
Or the military.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
So Nancy Pelosi is leading the charge to take away your right to have this protection, but she wants, of all things, if she said, I would like the National Guard to be armed with assault rifles, I'd be like, yeah, well, of course the politicians get to carry guns, the politicians get to have security, but she...
matt braynard
Well, but think about it.
tim pool
Crew-manned machine guns is above and beyond.
But they're impractical.
luke rudkowski
When you're talking about crew-manned machine guns during inaugurations, during big events where there's crowds, this is the least tactical weapon that you could have, especially in big cities with big crowds, because you're gonna mow down a whole bunch of innocent civilians standing in the way that don't deserve to be killed.
It's just absolutely illogical and stupid thinking by Nancy Pelosi.
tim pool
It's because they don't understand that full-auto isn't Tactical.
They think we have to ban full, semi-automatic weapons, which for one, they've actually said that means nothing.
When they say, I remember at the March for Our Lives, people were like, you know, no one needs a fully automatic weapon, and I'd tell them, like, well, you can't buy one.
And nobody has one except for, like, these really rare grandfathered and old machine guns.
matt braynard
And it's never used in a crime here.
tim pool
Yeah, nobody's carrying around a light machine gun in their truck or whatever to, like, it's a movie or something.
But that's what these people think.
So here's what people don't realize.
Now, I'm sure people can correct me if I'm wrong, but what you should be worried about, my understanding is that a semi-auto is actually way more dangerous than a full-auto for a deranged killer.
Because they'll spray off all their ammo and miss, and then click, click, click.
Whereas with semi-auto, they can go one, two, very, you know, calm and precise.
More importantly, when you have the military, it's sometimes better to do semi-auto or burst fire than full-auto.
Nancy Pelosi saying crewman to machine guns shows they don't actually know how to operate a weapon, and what kind of weapon you would need for this certain circumstance.
ian crossland
So she should never be president.
She doesn't understand military.
She wanted the DOD, was it, to go do a coup against Trump like two weeks ago?
tim pool
She asked them to strip Trump from the chain of command.
luke rudkowski
Well, she has no considerations for the citizens of Washington, D.C.
matt braynard
Think about it.
It's much more nefarious than that, I think.
Because this was in reaction to what happened on the 6th, okay?
Say what you will about the 6th, but we're in a country here where pretty much anybody can get a firearm.
Pretty much anybody can get an AR, an assault weapon, anything like that.
I don't remember seeing a whole lot of protesters brandishing, much less firing, firearms on the 6th.
So if this was a preparation for a reaction similar, this reaction was in preparation for what they saw on the 6th, which she's calling for is automatic military weapons to be used on an unarmed population.
This is what she thinks of the country, of the people, of the citizens.
She is content with having .50 caliber military grade weapons aimed at them and ready to go.
tim pool
Well, we added the .50 caliber part.
matt braynard
Oh, okay.
All right.
You're right.
unidentified
You got me.
tim pool
Belt-fed crewman machine guns.
matt braynard
Guns that require multiple people to operate them.
Let's go with that.
That's what she thinks of us in the country.
luke rudkowski
I'm surprised she didn't set up landmines all over the Capitol building.
I mean, it would make more sense with, you know, actual tactical defensive positioning rather than mowing people down with automatic machine guns.
tim pool
Beyond the people, could you imagine?
Look, look.
I've been to Ukraine.
I know I mention Ukraine a lot because it's a place I've been to.
And there are still buildings riddled with bullet holes from World War II and Cold War conflict.
And so I'm walking down the street.
We went to the mall to get food.
And then my friend is like, oh, look at that building.
See all those holes?
Yeah, that's machine gun fire.
And I'm like, they never fixed it?
No.
I'm like, wow.
I mean, it's a poor country.
So they're kind of just like, eh, what are we going to do about it?
matt braynard
Right.
And remember, under her leadership and the leadership of her party, we had members of in our Navy, in hostile ports being ordered not to be armed, not to have ammunition in their firearms, taking their naval vessels into hostile ports, and they were attacked and many of them died from that.
Yet here at this inauguration, she wants... What's the situation with the naval?
ian crossland
I haven't heard of this.
unidentified
What happened?
matt braynard
Oh, yeah, it was under the previous Democrat administration.
They were prevented from having armed weapons as they went into several, you know, hostile ports.
And there was one case where that actually ended up, an attack ship came in, they weren't able to respond to it, and it detonated and killed a bunch of American sailors.
ian crossland
Do you know where that was?
matt braynard
I'm sure we can Google it or look it up.
I can't recall.
It's somewhere in the Middle East.
That was that was Pelosi's Well, that was when she was in Congress and her Democratic Party's leadership.
They had the White House at the time.
tim pool
There you go.
You can see what these politicians think of the people and what they would do to them.
But that's a good point, man.
The people who stormed the Capitol, many of them were just bewildered and befuddled walking into open doors.
Some of them were violent and aggressive, but I think the worst we saw was crowbars.
luke rudkowski
Well, I think there was one video with one guy brandishing what looked like a firearm within his shirt, but I don't think he took it out and was waving it around, but I think it's fair to say that the magnitude of the threat was widely exaggerated for political purposes and political powers, and also for the media for ratings, views, clicks, with their kind of fear-mongering sensationalism that drove the headlines in, and now we have some violence happening.
They don't care about it because it's the wrong people protesting.
tim pool
Joe Biden was made to look really bad today, alright?
When Antifa was trending on Twitter in Seattle and Portland.
And, well, they had to take action.
So we got this tweet from Andy Ngo.
Breaking!
Twitter has suspended several prominent Antifa accounts.
The Base Brooklyn is one of them.
The Base is an extremist bookstore in Brooklyn, New York that has been used as an Antifa training center.
unidentified
16,800 followers.
tim pool
Gone.
We also have MFGM, the Jewish Worker, 30,000 followers, gone.
Revolutionary Abolitionist Movement, 11,400 followers, gone.
And Rev Abolition NYC, gone.
And I think these are just a few that Andy has highlighted.
I'm sure there's a lot more.
And this is, well, like we mentioned earlier, they're throwing away what they don't need anymore.
It's making them look bad.
They need to get rid of it.
And you know what?
I'll say this.
If they were advocating violence, if they were organizing violence, ban them.
Get rid of them.
If they were just tweeting stupid opinions, then I still think the censorship is bad.
I don't care if it's the left or the right, but you know when the biggest problems with all this censorship stuff is?
There's a left-wing podcast that got nuked on YouTube.
I'm not gonna name them.
And immediately, you know what I see?
I see the libertarians, I see the free speech advocates, the anti-SJWs, all defending them, saying, hey, hey, reinstate them.
But then what happens when it's a, you know, Count Dankula gets mass demonetized?
They go, ha ha ha, serves you right, but my private business.
That's a problem.
When you get a person like Count Dankula who will act with honor and integrity and stand up for principle and his adversaries will not, we are all at a disadvantage when we're fair and respect people and their rights to free speech.
That being said, these people I believe were pro- I wouldn't be surprised if they were organizing actual violence.
You know, they like to point to right-wingers and they say, I see this on Reddit all the time, well maybe you shouldn't send death threats to people and they wouldn't have deleted Parler!
And it's like, dude, there was I think 60 posts out of hundreds of thousands just in like an hour period that were violent.
Or, I'm sorry, I should say, there were probably millions of posts, and 60 altogether that were considered to be, like, harsh death threats.
So they nuked the entire company.
Come on, man, that doesn't make sense.
Twitter is loaded with extremist propaganda and calls for violence, and it's protected.
So, if you were to tell me that people on Parler were sending, you know, death threats or whatever, I'd be like, oh yeah, it's a good thing they were banning them.
But that's not everybody.
And if you tell me Antifa was doing it, I'd be like, yeah, oh, are they gonna ban them?
And then they're gonna cry foul, and they're gonna start saying, we're the free speech activists who defend our free speech.
The one thing I really love about all this stuff is when I see the tweets on the leftist and they're like, we're all the free speech warriors now to complain about the censorship of those criticizing Israel.
And I'm like, bro, we've all been defending your free speech to the entire time.
And when it happens, we always speak up about it.
And then when it happens to us, they laugh.
So what do you do?
luke rudkowski
I even remember arguing with them years ago when people were being banned, independent media, people on the right, and they were celebrating it.
I'm like, you guys don't understand.
The hammer is going to come after you very, very soon.
Here it is.
It's only going to get worse.
And this is what happens when you cheer on for a few small, select individuals to have the ultimate power of controlling speech.
It's a huge power.
It's going to be used and abused.
If you're standing in the way of the cogs of the machines, if you're not in the right position, if you're not reiterating the right talking points at the right time, you're going to be axed no matter who you are, and it's coming everywhere.
tim pool
I think it was Glenn Greenwald who said it best.
I think it's his quote, that if there's any group of people that fails to learn from past mistakes, it's liberals advocating for censorship, because it always recoils back on them.
And it's true for Antifa now, getting nuked.
They were all cheering for it.
Well, goodbye.
ian crossland
When you talk about censorship and Antifa violence, it's like a demon that is like, free me, and I will destroy your enemies.
unidentified
You're like, all you have to do is release me from these chains.
tim pool
Trust me.
luke rudkowski
And you're like, that's Mark Zuckerberg.
ian crossland
And then you release the demon, he kills your enemies, and then he tries, and then he kills you.
tim pool
Thank you, idiot.
You ever see Aladdin, when Jafar wishes he's a genie?
And then they did the...
The part two for, like, Straight to Home DVD.
Jafar's a genie now, and he's like, wish me free.
It's like, yeah, you're evil, and if we unleash this, you're gonna hurt everybody.
But you know what, man?
Some people don't care.
Or they don't know.
They're ignorant.
You know what it is?
It's the One Ring.
ian crossland
I've been watching a lot of Lord of the Rings lately.
tim pool
Antifa was Boromir, right?
And he's like, censorship is a gift!
We should wield it against our enemies!
You can't control it!
No one can!
That's exactly what happened, and they didn't get it.
And now they're getting it.
Nuked.
ian crossland
But I think a lot of them is ignorance.
So we can, you know, just spread the knowledge about the dangerous censorship.
That helps a lot.
Not everyone's malicious.
lydia smith
Well, I saw a cartoon today where it's four guys in a boat and two guys are on one end bailing the boat out because there's a leak at the other end.
And the other two guys at the other end of the boat are like, haha, well, I'm glad, you know, this isn't affecting us.
tim pool
Oh, because it's raised up, right?
Yeah, they're like floating in the boat, sinking.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, that's the world they seek to create.
But I'll tell you what's interesting about this.
So I'll just show you this real quick.
This is literally what Antifa is doing today.
You know, we mentioned this in the previous segment.
We don't want Biden.
We want revenge.
And there's what looks like... Is that an AK?
Yeah, it looks like an AK.
I could be wrong.
But the organization The Base is based in New York.
They have a public-facing website.
All its information is readily available in public.
They have their open hours.
They say The Base is an anarchist political center in Bushwick, Brooklyn, committed to the dissemination of revolutionary left and anarchist ideas and organizing.
Now on their website it's very, you know, innocuous, right?
Well, Project Veritas actually did an expose.
I don't know if I actually have the full expose.
Well, here's an opinion piece about it or something.
Where they had footage from inside where they were doing combat training, basically.
You know, self-defense training.
You're allowed to do self-defense training.
Totally acceptable. I took a Kung Fu class once.
That's right, I did. We had to fight with the sticks. It was really cool.
A long time ago.
unidentified
Boken?
tim pool
No, no, no.
It's called something else because there's two of them and you hold them like that.
And we did this, like, they do this really fast, you know, fighting stuff.
So that's fine.
But there is an issue when you've got advocacy for violence, when you've got evidence that these groups in New York have been violent, and they're teaching people about revolutionary ideas.
And they hold extremist views, and then they train for violence.
You add all those things together, and I wouldn't be surprised if they're posting really, really bad stuff.
It's gonna get them banned.
matt braynard
Wouldn't it be good, though, if we knew what they posted that they got banned for?
Yeah.
Maybe it was innocuous, maybe it was something that crosses the line.
I mean, we have no idea.
It's always the mystery with these guys.
There's no transparency in the banning process.
tim pool
And that is a problem, and that's why I typically am opposed to it no matter what.
But I guess you gotta draw the line if they're saying like, go do a thing, you know what I mean?
unidentified
Sure.
luke rudkowski
But we should at least know what they said, and to have full transparency and accountability from these big tech networks that are literally having the most important power in the world destroying anything that could be made up.
ian crossland
It's such a catch 20.
I don't know if it's a catch 22 or it's just a hard situation because if they said something that's going to radicalize people, they want to prevent people from seeing it.
But if they prevent people from seeing it, then we can't verify that what they did was wrong.
tim pool
Exactly.
lydia smith
The problem is that they shouldn't get to choose what is going to radicalize someone.
Every idea should be held equally valid unless it's explicitly calling for violence against someone.
So every idea should be out there.
matt braynard
And if it was actually calling for violence, that's not actually legally protected speech either.
I mean, because the law is pretty clear.
In fact, actually, if I can jump in here and say something about this problem, I actually came here tonight with the solution to this problem.
tim pool
A solution.
matt braynard
A solution to tech censorship.
luke rudkowski
We don't talk about that.
tim pool
All we do is complain.
matt braynard
I agree with you.
It's much easier to complain, but I have the solution.
I brought it with me to tech censorship, to de-platforming, to getting blacklisted by financial firms, and it's very simple.
We have to sort of look, where do we have strength still?
Because, you know, the Senate's gone, the House is gone, it's in the control of progressives.
we don't know where the Supreme Court is, but where we still have a lot of allies and people
supporting us, in fact, in the majority of the state legislatures.
So I believe that the solution is state-level state legislation that prevents the state
and any government within the state, that's counties, cities, etc., from engaging in business
with the social networks that censor, with tech companies that de-platform, with financial
institutions that blacklist people.
Because, look, we kind of agree, we're all on the side that it's your company, you run the social network, you can decide who's on it and who isn't, right?
But you're not entitled to tax money paid by people who you are de-platforming, whom you're getting fired, whom you're throwing off your service and blacklisting and taking away their bank accounts.
So the solution is for citizens, you guys out there, to lobby your state legislatures to say we're not going to give any business to any one of these companies that does this.
We're going to divest our pension funds or any day funds from companies that engage in this behavior.
And either, if you're going to get a government contract, you're going to embrace the First Amendment and you're not going to de-platform people for legal speech, constitutionally protected, political activity or gain full employment.
So the way to get where we're going is basically to get these state governments on board.
And one of two things is going to happen, okay?
One, two, three, five states agree to this type of legislation.
Either the Amazons, the Twitters, the Facebooks are going to say, okay, okay, we are not going
to censure legal speech.
Or they're going to say, ah, screw you guys, we're going to do what we want.
And suddenly there's a space for companies that do embrace that to go after those government contracts, to go after that money, and that's how we create this parallel, alternate ecosystem of financial companies, social media, and technical companies who embrace the First Amendment.
These government contracts would be the seed money to create this ecosystem.
So basically, the bottom line is the state of South Carolina, Texas, Oklahoma, all these states where we could potentially pass this legislation, say to Amazon, to Twitter, to Facebook, look, you're not getting another penny from us.
Or to Citibank, you're not going to kick these people off your platform because you disagree with their political ideas and continue to do business with us.
So they'll have to make a choice.
And them saying no creates a space for these new companies to emerge that do embrace the First Amendment.
ian crossland
What kind of money do states send the way of Amazon and Facebook?
matt braynard
Well, marketing budgets is one thing on The Socialist.
Now, that's not particularly huge, but what is much more significant is their pension funds and rainy day funds being invested in these companies, as well as so many government services are dependent on contractors that use services like Amazon Web Services and those other companies that discriminate, that kick parlor off, right?
So, you know, if just South Carolina or just Oklahoma did it, maybe it wouldn't get their attention, but you get, like, half the states in the country doing it.
Those are billions and billions and billions of dollars that either they're going to have to change their policies to accept or give up, and that becomes the fuel for their new competitors who embrace the First Amendment to get that seed money so they can grow and compete against them.
And look, like I said, they're entitled to run their platforms, I suppose, how they want, but they're not entitled to tax dollars paid for by me, whose rights they're denying, whose rights of free expression and political activity and gainful employment they're denying.
So this is how we fight back.
And I guess I'm going to plug this, but look ahead, America, we're going to train people next Wednesday online, as many as 3,000 people on how to do grassroots lobbying, how to lobby your legislature to get them to pass legislation like this that says, look, Facebook may kick you off, but they're not going to get in your tax money for advertising or marketing.
AWS may kick your parlor off, but they're not going to get any contracts for running the state's Medicare and Medicaid programs if they're going to de-platform you.
tim pool
So the moment there is a legitimate legal challenge saying I was unjustly removed from this platform due to my protected speech, then the state seizes all contracts and tax expenditures going to these companies.
matt braynard
Well, it'll be like a year period where they get to disentangle from any entity that does not agree to basically allow people to have free speech, free legal speech without censoring it.
And there's, you know, every state has its different legal peculiarities, but we have like, these are the policy objectives.
Very clear and simple.
You get a state legislature to turn them into the state's legislative council.
It becomes legislation.
It goes through hearings, amendments, etc.
But this is how we fight back.
tim pool
Why don't we just have the state legislatures pass laws saying you can't ban people for illegal speech?
They tried that in Florida, I believe.
It didn't go anywhere.
But why not just actually get it done?
matt braynard
Because this is, I think, easier because the state can control who it does contracts with.
You may recall the state of California banned all travel to other states that did not support bathroom laws.
The federal government and other states also have riders for all their contracts that force them to accept rules that are not part of civil rights legislation but sort of extend it.
So this is common in government contracting and a very powerful tool for reform.
And it's just a lot easier than saying, hey, social networks can't ban it, because then
it becomes a federal matter, whereas the states control who they're going to spend with and
who they're not going to spend with.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, we saw Poland recently propose legislation that would heavily fine social media companies
for censoring legal speech.
So that's also another aspect of it.
But this is interesting, because many Silicon Valley companies are looking to leave California,
that tax-filled, amazing place that has a lot of homeless people.
Because of the unlivable conditions, these companies are looking to reposition themselves.
So this could be an opportunity to have local jurisdictions kind of step up and I mean, do you have high hopes of this being able to be organized?
And what other ties do local jurisdictions have with big tech that could be affected here?
matt braynard
Look, all of these big tech companies have offices in every state capital.
Why?
It's because they're going after state government contracts.
These are hundreds of billions of trillions of dollars in state, city, county spending.
And this matters.
And again, it's going to have one of two outcomes.
Either they're going to forego billions of dollars in revenue, billions of dollars that will instead go to their competitors, brand new competitors, which they hate and fear.
Or they're going to have to relent and say, okay, we're going to permit legal speech.
We're not going to kick people off our platform for You know, you've got banks saying that we're going to stop doing business with firearms manufacturers and, you know, if it's your thing, you know, marijuana farms, right?
Because, well, this would prevent that.
Or at least say the state is not going to accept payments from these banks or do transactions through these banks if they ban legal... It's very simple, whereas when you start banning, like, the behavior, or say a social network can't ban legal speech, you get into interstate commerce issues and, you know, maybe that company's located in another state, you're going to cut off internet traffic, it becomes very complicated.
Whereas this is a very clean cut and I have high hopes because look, we've got a lot of people with a lot of energy who want to do something and want to make a difference and are fed up with this problem.
Becoming a grassroots lobbyist, becoming an activist, this is what the left has done for so long and they've had tremendous success with it because they were patient with themselves, the time it took, and because they were determined they didn't give up.
I know that there are at least a third to half of the states in this country that would eagerly pass some form of this legislation.
It's just that it has to get pushed.
And nothing moves in politics unless it's pushed.
So it's dependent on these folks out here to allow my organization, Look Ahead America, to organize them, to guide them, and to train them on how to do this and how to actually make it happen.
Because we can talk all day about all the problems in the world But we've got enough talkers.
Tim does a great job.
We don't need more talkers.
We need more doers.
We need more people doing it and lobbying the state legislature and getting in their faces on it.
tim pool
And the one thing that we're trying to do especially is building culture.
So I've often talked about I'm just a guy complaining on the internet.
And so that's why for a while we've been talking about doing this vlog where we'll start actually doing things.
And that's why we're working on TimCast.com, because I'm like, I can't just keep sitting here complaining on YouTube.
It's ridiculous.
ian crossland
It's okay to be a talker sometimes.
tim pool
But there's gotta be balance.
matt braynard
We need talkers.
tim pool
There's balance, right?
ian crossland
There is a balance.
tim pool
So it's gonna be yin-yang.
We're gonna do the stuff where we're like, this is bad stuff, and then we're gonna be like, let's make things, and have fun, and inspire people to do stuff, and get them into... You know, I'll put it this way.
We talk about it all the time.
The left will play video games and they'll livestream.
Twitch.
They go on Twitch, they'll play video games.
ian crossland
Which I'm doing later tonight, by the way.
But I'll talk more about it later.
tim pool
While they're playing video games, and these young people are watching Minecraft or whatever, they're talking leftist politics.
And it works.
That I won't be doing.
Because Twitch is dominated by the left, they ban people for even a moderate opinion.
You're gone.
So what we need is, we need young people who are looking at cool, interesting things, getting cheered on.
Be it skateboarding or music or, you know, firing guns at the range.
Just fun stuff.
Demolition ranch style stuff.
The kids get excited by it.
And then, you know, what do they see in the background?
A Gadsden flag.
So then when they try and claim the Gazan flag is a symbol of white supremacy, they go, Nuh-uh, that skateboarder guy's got one of those.
That's crazy.
I won't believe it.
I like that guy, he's cool.
When they tried claiming that PewDiePie was a white supremacist or whatever, cause he said some stupid words and made some stupid jokes, all these kids were like, no he's not, you're lying!
And then all of a sudden you have these little kids who are like, the media's lying.
They're lies.
And then I remember the story, Jake Tapper said his son calls him fake news.
But think about how powerful that is.
They realized this.
This freaked them out.
And then all of a sudden the censorship went nuts because it was several years ago.
Jake Tapper said, when my kid gets mad at me, he calls me fake news.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Where does that kid hear that from?
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
tim pool
He heard it from the likes of PewDiePie.
They went after PewDiePie hard.
He heard it on YouTube.
They started going after YouTubers and purging these channels and getting rid of them.
So, you gotta find a way to share your ideas, have them be peripheral to what you do, but inspire and create.
And then, honestly, what you're talking about as well.
The legislative angle.
But I will say, as much as I think you are 100% correct and people need to focus on that too, one of the problems I think is conservatives go at a legislative angle.
Whereas the left owns the culture.
And then because they own the culture, the kids grow up and they're always left.
Now, Gen Z is the first generation to be slightly more right than the previous generations.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's because of the internet.
Hollywood is very left.
I was in that.
tim pool
But it's not because of the internet.
It's a big part of YouTube.
ian crossland
We balanced it out a lot.
It was very far left in the 90s and early 2000s.
tim pool
But it's not because of the internet.
This is actually really obvious.
In the 2000s, there were several studies done on the political ideology and children.
And they found that conservatives were having 2.01 children, and liberals were having 1.7 children.
What happens when you add 20 years from when those studies were done?
You now have the next generation, Gen Z, leaning a little bit more conservative.
Why?
Conservatives had kids more often than liberals did.
It's actually very, very simple.
Now, YouTube, Internet, all that stuff plays a role, for sure.
If you're not inspiring young people, then you end up with kids snitching on their parents because their parents were seen at, you know, the Capitol or whatever, which is what happened.
ian crossland
And, like, a liberal dad doesn't necessarily have a liberal kid, like Tapper, for instance.
Super liberal.
His kid's apparently not, it sounds like, awakened.
So I found Hollywood-dominated culture in the 90s, 2000s, I mean, honestly, way back since the 30s.
And they are just, you have to shut your mouth and play the game to live in that industry.
They will fire you in a heartbeat.
And as soon as the internet came around, I realized, dude, I can say whatever I want and I can make a living.
unidentified
This is like next level.
luke rudkowski
I mean, that's why they went after PewDiePie and Joe Rogan and so many other kind of cultural institutions that weren't regurgitating their talking points and they were providing entertainment.
That wasn't propaganda, that wasn't brainwashing, that wasn't disinformation.
You turn on all the mainstream media crap, whether it's Hollywood, movies, TV series, there's so much subliminal trash and garbage and messaging in there that it's absolutely ridiculous.
It's unwatchable for people who know what's going on, who know the narrative, who know the agenda, who know the talking points, seeing it again and again portrayed in so many different ways.
It's essentially brainwashing according to a lot of individuals, especially when you look at the deeper involvement of the state with Hollywood and their active involvement with writing scripts.
It's a big game that they want to take out anyone who's not involved in it.
matt braynard
Like, I actually am the rare right-winger who has a Master in Fine Arts from Columbia University, and I can tell you that in my time there, the ideological persuasion of the vast majority of those who are far, far, far left, or don't really care about politics but go along to get along with the left, And you think about who's the producers, directors, writers, as you're saying, in Hollywood.
Almost every show you can get on Netflix, Disney+, Hulu, etc.
If you look at those writers, they look at middle America, patriotic America, and they look at it with disgust and disdain.
And I would say almost a hatred.
And that's who, basically, anytime you put your kid in front of the television, that's who's feeding them.
And, you know, this is why I think there's a shift is because you know who's really competing with Netflix right now and, you know, mainstream channels on television and primetime TV is video games.
It's Call of Duty, it's Twitch streamers.
That's the competition, and that's an environment that doesn't lend itself so easily to subtle left-wing manipulation and cultural brainwashing.
tim pool
Twitch is dominated entirely by far, far left hardcore tankies and full-blown communists.
luke rudkowski
And if you look at the previous Call of Duty, not this one that just came out, the previous one had so much crazy, insane Russian propaganda, Syrian chemical warfare, and WMDs, all of it pushing, of course, the mainline neoconservative messaging of, we need more war, we need to fight Russia, we need to stop Assad.
All of it was directly involved in it on such a sickening level.
It was crazy to watch.
I live-streamed that game because I was surprised to see all the pro-war messaging.
matt braynard
I want to make a point, though.
It's not quite as convincing and brainwashing as, say, any typical left-wing show in the 90s, if you're just sitting there shooting people in Call of Duty.
luke rudkowski
In Call of Duty, you literally were a child that was suffering a gas attack by the character that was clearly Bashar al-Assad, and you were a child trying to sneak away from the Russians that were killing your mom in front of you.
So that type of level of propaganda Holy cow.
I mean, it has an impact on children who are just thrown.
matt braynard
Would you rather your child do that or watch, um, a gossip girl?
luke rudkowski
Well, games are more, more kind of immersive.
People put themselves in games and even put on diapers because they don't want to leave this, that kind of entertainment realm in Japan.
There's literally AA meetings in Japan against gaming.
tim pool
Sure, sure, sure.
I got no problem with gaming, but you mentioned Twitch and I think I'm pretty sure the biggest Twitch streamer is like a hardcore socialist.
I guess I advocated for violence.
In a video game.
In a video game is what he does.
He'll be like, he'll literally call to action and go, in a video game.
Because he knows it's like, it's not a legal defense.
But he thinks it is!
ian crossland
And so- Like you guys should go fill in the blank?
tim pool
We need to go do this right now!
ian crossland
In a video game!
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
tim pool
It's insidious.
It doesn't work.
If they wanted to go after him, they would, but it's ridiculous.
ian crossland
I agree with you, Matt.
I think it's the movies and TV are uber brainwashing, and when the game, the gamer has control, there's no writer.
Like, the games have been written and do have a plot, and Call of Duty was extreme propaganda.
Especially the new one was extreme Russian hate propaganda.
unidentified
It was crazy.
luke rudkowski
That's the new one, the one before the new one.
I haven't played the new one.
ian crossland
I stopped poisoning my mind with that content.
But most games are kind of...
Kind of neutral.
The platform, it's just a game.
matt braynard
The way you play them, it's mostly multiplayer.
tim pool
I don't know, most games are pro-gun.
ian crossland
That's for sure.
First person shooter is a freaking genre.
unidentified
It's not, that's not that first person shooter.
ian crossland
Do you remember that Christchurch shooting in, in what was it, New Zealand?
They were live streaming it with a head cam and then people like overlaid it and made it look like a doom game.
And like, we're getting kill counts and stuff.
tim pool
That's messed up.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
First person shooting is, is highly training us to become killers.
matt braynard
It sounds like we're gonna get a LAN party going here because we've got the desks.
tim pool
Think about even going back to Mario.
Mario literally jumped on and crushed turtles with his feet.
ian crossland
And he ate mushrooms, bro!
tim pool
And he punched bricks.
ian crossland
So there's like...
tim pool
Video games, like violence, is a strong, strong component.
There was always a big push from leftists to make what they called walking simulators.
Games where the goal was not to do anything violent.
Because these SJWs were complaining, why is every video game going to be violent or whatever?
But I'll tell you.
These kids are growing up playing you name a video game and like most of the big ones are guns like destiny right here play destiny It's like you're a space guardian and guns you shoot aliens with guns lots of different kinds and rocket launchers and First-person shooters man, but also third-person shooters the division.
What's the cyberpunk?
ian crossland
It's all about beating I was playing Red Dead Redemption last night with Adam Kriegler.
Soy Jesus, shout out.
We'll be playing again later on tonight.
And I was like, after I got done playing, I was like, how come there are no Native Americans that just like attack you and that you just mow down?
And I think that they specifically chose, it's like the Old West, but they specifically chose not to introduce that kind of violence into the game.
There's a lot of violence in the game.
But there's no natives.
I haven't seen any natives.
tim pool
You can like kill somebody and drag their body and hide it.
ian crossland
Just walk up to them.
luke rudkowski
I remember not so long ago, Republicans were trying to ban violent video games because they said it would spur on, you know, school shooters.
But there actually have been some studies citing how violent video games help people become less violent.
tim pool
They vent.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, so they're able to vent and express themselves and do really silly things like they do in Grand Theft Auto.
And it usually, according to some studies, leads to more harm reduction.
ian crossland
They're kind of metaphors for aiming and throwing a ball at a moving target.
It doesn't have to be shooting and killing a human when you're attacking a character.
It's just more representative of building up your twitch skill, your ability to turn and fire.
tim pool
Pulsefire?
There's no actions. I remember Penn and Teller's show BS on Showtime. I think it was Showtime.
They did why the idea that violent video games makes people more violent is total BS.
And they took this kid who was, I don't remember what video game he was playing, but he was like one of the top gamers
in a certain game.
And they gave him an actual pulse fire, you know, AR of some sort.
And he's this little kid. I don't know how he's like...
Pulse fire?
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
tim pool
I gotta look that up.
Yeah, like, like, like, he fires three rounds with one trigger pull.
unidentified
Burst fire.
tim pool
Burst fire.
Sorry, sorry.
I'm thinking, I was playing Destiny and Destiny has pulse rifles.
I go, oh, they fire three.
Burst fire.
And the kid pulled the trigger one time and started crying.
And they were like, this kid plays video games all the time.
He's one of the best at this first person shooter.
And then they actually, you know, said, all right, let's see if you can, they wanted to see if the kid could actually hit the target.
If he was going to be accurate, more accurate, like the video games were training him.
And instead, he got shocked by the recoil and started crying.
luke rudkowski
Didn't that happen to a mainstream media journalist that went shooting for the first time?
And then he was shocked and scared.
matt braynard
Traumatized.
tim pool
He got PTSD.
luke rudkowski
It's utterly insane.
tim pool
What was he firing?
matt braynard
An AR.
Just an AR.
tim pool
It's crazy because we were out in the range and we had a 556 and a 308 and we were all laughing.
Some little kid shows up with a mini-14 and he was way better than all of us.
How old was that kid?
Like 12?
luke rudkowski
I don't remember.
I wasn't there.
tim pool
I was sleeping in.
unidentified
I don't remember.
tim pool
I wasn't there.
Yes, I'm like, oh man, none of you were there.
So it's like 12 year old kid shows up with his dad and his dad's training him.
And so they're doing, they're very precise.
And the kid was really, really great.
We're all having a good time.
I fired the 308 a couple of times.
We fired the 556.
And I was like, wow, that's impressive.
Then recently we fired some buckshot and some slugs and the recoil was way more.
So, and if this guy is gonna fire an AR, which I can imagine was probably like a 556.
And then claimed he got PTSD from it.
Heaven forbid the dude ever hunted a turkey because the game load in the 12 gauge has more recoil.
And this guy's like, I got PTSD from firing this way.
ian crossland
I feel like we're talking about two different types of mental brainwashing.
One is the actual physical act of killing, so it's like a violent movie or a violent video game.
The other is the propaganda aspect of the movie or the video game, like the writing of it.
I don't think that movies and video games both have that violent, like, action type thing.
tim pool
What, the writing of a movie?
people at all. What the writing of a movie? No, no, no, that's different. What I'm saying
is we've seen studies that show violent video games don't make people more violent. It's
just not true. But you can make people like Luke was saying, you play as a small child
crawling away as Russians running into, for no reason.
ian crossland
Kill your family.
You don't think that there's something to, like, uh, what's the, what's the Grand Theft Auto pulling, just running up and pulling someone out of a car and throwing them down to, like, all this street violence these days?
unidentified
No!
tim pool
Has anyone ever done that?
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
Well, there's all this street violence, like, unprecedented amounts of street violence in the United States in the last five years, six years.
tim pool
No, that's actually not true.
Crime has been going way down until this past year.
ian crossland
Until, like, the last year.
tim pool
Until COVID.
And then people are angry, pent up in their homes, and they go insane.
ian crossland
I don't know, man.
tim pool
And police officers are stepping back a little bit.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
ian crossland
To say that there's no connection between violent video games and violence, I think is extreme.
tim pool
They've done studies.
ian crossland
Well, I've experienced it firsthand.
When I play a game, I start to think like the game.
When have you ever gotten out of your car and then just- I have self-control, but I've driven and thought like, ooh, there's a green van.
I want to pull the driver out of the driver's seat.
tim pool
You realize that's you sounding crazy.
ian crossland
I'm a normal dude compared to some kids that don't know their parents.
That's not normal.
I've never wanted to get out of my car.
I was raised in a safe environment.
tim pool
I've never wanted to get out of my car and just beat someone.
ian crossland
No, I didn't want to.
I had the impulse to do it.
tim pool
I've never had an impulse to do that, bro.
ian crossland
Well, you don't play games as much as I do.
tim pool
Dude, I used to play GTA all the time.
I used to play Destiny all the time.
ian crossland
Let me tell you what all the time means when you're talking about gaming.
Do you wake up at 8am and play until 7am?
Yes.
tim pool
Five days in a row?
matt braynard
In his defense, I play one game, World of Warships, and I will confess that playing it has made me want to take a sailboat out.
tim pool
You know what?
You're right.
I played Civilization and it made me want to build a space program to go to Mars.
ian crossland
Yeah, the space makes me want to build a space elevator.
tim pool
I got the science victory in civilization and I was like, let's rally a nation of hundreds of millions.
ian crossland
I think that people that are disturbed are way more likely to commit violence anyway, whether or not they play a game.
I don't care about a couple of studies.
What?
lydia smith
What if some people are more suggestible than other people?
ian crossland
That's for sure.
lydia smith
And it's possible that we should take that into account.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
And if certain people get a hold of those games, it could make them even training even crazier.
tim pool
Here's the funny thing.
I just referenced there was a show from Penn & Teller where they debunked the whole thing, and Luke mentioned studies have already been done showing it's not true, and Ian's sitting here going, I don't care because I believe it is!
ian crossland
So you have a few studies.
tim pool
And you have nothing!
You have literally nothing.
ian crossland
I have personal experience.
I watched them put the Doom overlay over the first person shooter, dude.
tim pool
So you go crazy from playing games and other people don't.
ian crossland
No, I watched the Christchurch shooter with his first person camera on laughing like he's playing a game.
And people also taking the video and then making it into looking like a video game.
tim pool
You have nothing to do with it.
You have nothing to back up anything you're saying, as per usual, and you think this justifies your position.
matt braynard
I would make a point, though, that you might actually agree with in the way that they do reduce it.
Because you think about where most crime happens.
It's in dense, urban areas.
That's where most of the crime takes place.
Because you take those parts of the country away from the United States, and we're the most peaceful country in the world.
You just subtract six cities, and we're the most peaceful place in the world.
So it's happening there.
So if you think about, well, crime occurs over a period of time, and it's when these individuals who are inclined to commit crime are inclined to commit it.
And they can be doing one of two things with their time.
This is kind of going back to the midnight basketball theory, right?
But I think it's a little bit more practical, is if you've got this video game that keeps you engaged and you're sitting around playing it for 12 hours a day because you're really not capable of doing anything else, if you're doing that instead of being out on the street actually doing the crimes, I think that in some ways it's kind of a palliative.
ian crossland
Yeah.
matt braynard
In those specific environments, not to get between your two argument, but I do think that if you've got something to keep people wrapped up and engaged, they're not actually out doing other things, which may include crimes.
tim pool
Can I get a drumroll?
Can I get a drumroll?
ian crossland
Drumroll, please.
tim pool
The Guardian.
matt braynard
We're going back into it.
tim pool
The Guardian.
Playing video games doesn't lead to violent behavior.
Studies show.
The New York Times.
Video games aren't why shootings happen.
Politicians don't blame them.
Time Magazine.
No.
Video games don't cause mass shootings.
ian crossland
Now read the article that says the Russians are bad.
tim pool
PBS.
Why it's time to stop blaming video games for real-world violence.
Entertainment Software Association.
Science says video games don't cause real-world violence.
There's five for you, Ian.
ian crossland
Okay.
tim pool
So it's time to stop the witch hunt and the psychotic lie.
ian crossland
Dude, I don't dislike video games, man.
I wouldn't take them away from a kid, ever.
But I am acknowledging that there's something to, that we become what we do.
tim pool
Is five not enough for you?
Is five?
matt braynard
I would ask Ian a question.
ian crossland
Who did the study?
How many people was in the study?
matt braynard
I would ask you a question though, is can you name a single mass shooter that was moved to do that by video games?
ian crossland
that said a video- well, I've never had a chance to talk to any mass shooters.
matt braynard
No, but usually, surely they talk about what the motive- the Christchurch shooter, his motivations were clearly articulated.
tim pool
The Christchurch shooter's head cam, he wanted it to be a head cam on a GoPro so that you could see it, like, he wrote that he wanted to cause a civil war by using gun violence to incite the left to take guns away from right-wingers in the United States.
matt braynard
Right, so I'm just saying that if it really was causing a problem, you really would have this guy saying, well, I play GTA a lot, look like fun.
I want to try out for real.
ian crossland
I mean, maybe they're probably, I don't know if they're consciously, I don't know if people are always consciously aware.
matt braynard
Maybe they're not consciously aware.
luke rudkowski
Well, to me, the big, I mean, if we're going to make arguments about what causes violence, you know, we could bring up a lot of other things.
ian crossland
Lead in the air, fatherless homes, lack of proper, and I don't think video games necessarily cause, but maybe an exacerbated, uh, You should probably stop saying it.
You should probably stop saying it if you've not even read any of it.
unidentified
CBS?
PBS?
ian crossland
The Guardian?
tim pool
is the worst. If I'm going to pull up five articles just in a simple Google search in
ten seconds, you should probably stop saying it. You should pull up article titles. I mean,
read the articles. You should probably stop saying it if you've not even read any of it.
ian crossland
Dude, you pulled up like a CBS, is that what you said? PBS?
tim pool
The Guardian, PBS. Yeah.
lydia smith
New York Times.
tim pool
New York Times, Time Magazine, come on.
ian crossland
It's like mainstream.
I mean, okay, great.
Read the articles.
You're just giving me names.
tim pool
And you've not read anything!
ian crossland
Dude, I've experienced it firsthand.
tim pool
It's meaningless.
matt braynard
Maybe I can find a point of agreement between the two of you.
Ian, would you agree that the palliative benefit of violent video games being an outlet for maybe violent impulses that they take out in the game or take up time when they would ordinarily be out on the street committing such crimes outweighs any contributions videos may have to real world violence.
unidentified
Yes.
matt braynard
And I think you would agree with that too, because you, of course you agree.
ian crossland
I think it's way more beneficial.
matt braynard
You have some common ground here, right?
Okay.
ian crossland
Yeah, but I'm not saying it has no negatives, but I, that's my point.
matt braynard
But you, do you both agree with the premise that I just laid out?
ian crossland
Definitely.
unidentified
Okay.
ian crossland
The way that they help us, like, it helps me release tension and I gain self-esteem when I accomplish things.
matt braynard
So the net gain of it, you think the negative is far outweighed by the positive.
Correct.
And you think there's no negative.
So, okay, we have some common ground.
Good.
tim pool
It's not that I think there's no negative.
unidentified
It's that, over the past several... Now you think there's no negative?
matt braynard
There is negative.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
What I'm saying is, it's not about what I believe.
matt braynard
Okay.
tim pool
You know what I believe?
I believe there are numerous scientific studies that have repeatedly debunked this for the past two decades.
And so, I'm not gonna... I personally am not telling you one or the other.
What I'm saying is, I just read five different headlines that asserted that.
Okay, great.
You reference studies, Tim.
And you've done that before, and there are studies that say fluoride's great for you.
There's lots of them.
that debunked the whole thing in the first place, citing numerous scientists and bringing
a kid out.
ian crossland
Okay, great.
You, you, you referenced studies, Tim, and you've done that before.
And there are studies that say fluoride is great for you.
And there's lots of them.
In fact, there's studies that say aspartame doesn't cause cancer.
And yes, they didn't do any more studies after that because aspartame companies didn't want
tim pool
So you're a conspiracy theorist?
ian crossland
No.
I'm telling you, studies are not the end all.
tim pool
Bro, you just told us that you get impulses but you have self-control and you want to kill people.
ian crossland
I specifically said I don't want to, but I understand.
tim pool
I've never experienced that in my life.
ian crossland
Brainwashing.
tim pool
I've never experienced an urge to reenact GTA in real life.
lydia smith
Tim, Ian is telling you what happens to him.
And that's that's all and I don't think that Ian maybe I don't think that you should extend that to all the video
unidentified
And?
lydia smith
games and All people and that's why Tim's pulling up studies
tim pool
I think what I'm saying is that if Ian is experiencing some kind of problem, he shouldn't associate that with everyone
matt braynard
Well, I'm saying all the nominal. Well, look it's a simple for you. It's an ontological disagreement
He is a very big believer in deductive reasoning.
He's a very big believer in inductive reasoning, and sometimes they have something in common, sometimes they disagree, and that's just what it comes down to.
ian crossland
Very well said.
But how can you read five studies and then deduce a finality from five Well, because he doesn't see evidence of it to the contrary.
matt braynard
If there was one study that suggested what you agreed, what you suggested, he would actually probably be a little on your side.
Did he look?
ian crossland
Did he look for evidence to the contrary?
tim pool
I just Googled it and clicked the top five links.
ian crossland
Did you look for evidence to the contrary?
You looked for evidence to support your claim.
You didn't... What else did you look for today?
matt braynard
Well, so now it's just a matter of time.
He hasn't had time to.
So I guess that's where you leave it, right?
tim pool
Actually, that's not true.
I've had two decades where I've researched this extensively and Ian has done nothing.
ian crossland
No, I study this stuff, man.
tim pool
I'll tell you the problem is that I literally have been reading for decades.
I do nothing but read all day every day.
I do tons of research endlessly.
And then Ian says, I feel.
ian crossland
I've literally been playing video games for decades.
tim pool
And that's not research.
That's you.
ian crossland
It's personal research about the way video games affect your mind.
tim pool
The plural of anecdote is not data.
ian crossland
Dude, it is...
matt braynard
Yes, it is!
No, it isn't!
ian crossland
If you're a fireman and you tell me about how hot fire is, I'm going to listen to you.
tim pool
The moral of the anecdote is not data.
matt braynard
Ian, let me ask you a question then.
If he had spent the last year working on a PhD on this very subject and had consumed everything, and then he said, well, I looked at all the evidence, I found little to nothing suggesting that it contributes to violence, would that affect your point of view?
ian crossland
In the meantime, if you had a show about this, and you had paper after paper after I don't care if they cause violence or don't cause violence.
tim pool
The research says they don't.
matt braynard
not true. So this will stop when you get a PhD in video game violence.
tim pool
So it's an issue of one of the biggest problems we have in my opinion with
politics in general is people who think their feelings are fact and it's not
true period. I don't care about video games. I don't care if they cause
violence or don't cause violence. The research says they don't. Do you think
violent movies cause people to become more violent? I have not researched it.
But I believe the answer is no.
ian crossland
Why would you believe that if you haven't researched it?
tim pool
Because what we have seen is that there is in some... The amount of research I've done into video games and violence is like probably to me notable in that for the past two decades I've actually been looking up articles and reading the science on it.
Fairly often.
The movie stuff, I've read a couple things, and what I've seen is there is a short-term burst of aggression after watching violent films, but it's short-term and doesn't lead to real-world violence.
That's what we've seen so far.
So that's the extent that I can get, and I would probably say that suggests, no, regular people don't have impulses to go out and commit crimes because they've watched a movie.
So, listen.
Facts don't care about your feelings.
If video games caused violence, I'd be sitting here saying that was the case.
But politicians have used that as an excuse for moral authoritarian power for censorship for a long time.
ian crossland
Do you think that watching someone commit a crime makes you more or less likely to commit the crime?
matt braynard
Makes me less likely, actually.
ian crossland
Because now I emphasize with the victim.
Do you think someone telling you, like someone up on a stage orating and telling people to cause violence would make them more likely to cause violence?
tim pool
Yes.
Experiencing it with your eyes and your ears, yes.
ian crossland
Do you think that people can ever forget they're in real life and think they're in the video game while they're playing the game?
tim pool
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
ian crossland
Yeah, me too.
tim pool
I didn't say it was widespread, dude.
I think it's insidious and subtle.
No, I think you think feelings are facts, and they're not.
Your personal anecdote is not data.
ian crossland
I think people can forget they're in the video game, and that can really make them think that they're watching a real person.
tim pool
The fact that you said you think the plural of anecdote is data suggests you just don't know anything about research in general.
The plural of anecdote is not data.
ian crossland
Dude, you just said that you haven't researched if movies cause violence, but you believe they don't.
luke rudkowski
In related gamifying news, I have a thing that maybe could Put us on a different track here.
In related gaming news, YouTube today is accused of gamifying the like and dislike button for all of the videos from the official White House YouTube channel, as there are many screenshots portraying likes that are supposedly, according to some people, being manipulated in real time.
tim pool
Have you guys heard about that?
matt braynard
I blame violent video games for this.
tim pool
YouTube has done this to the like button a lot.
The issue is though, are the likes legitimate?
luke rudkowski
Yes, we don't know if there was actual individuals manipulating the system, because there's usually also some bots that are implemented that do create fake likes and fake dislikes out there, so we don't know if this was the exact situation that unfolded here.
But also, surprisingly, the president that was elected and had more votes than any other president in American history looks like he's getting absolutely ratioed and dunked on, even with the corrections from YouTube, as his videos are having 90% Dislike percentages.
tim pool
Yes.
But that's because people voted against Trump.
unidentified
Right.
Yeah.
tim pool
No one likes Biden.
lydia smith
Right.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
tim pool
A lot of people didn't like Trump.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So people are like, why can't, why, why won't people show up for Joe
Biden because nobody wanted him.
luke rudkowski
Yes.
tim pool
But they just didn't, it was, it was, it was, that's why Joe Biden hid because
the campaign was, I don't like Donald Trump or I like Donald Trump.
unidentified
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
It still is like surprising seeing the, the likes, the dislikes, even
with the, the supposed corrections.
I hope YouTube addresses the kind of allegations because we're seeing some of the videos being unlisted and coming back with a whole different ratio.
But again, we don't know what's happening.
matt braynard
You want to take the Netflix solution because you remember when Netflix, what did they do?
tim pool
They got rid of that system.
luke rudkowski
Yes, right after Amy Schumer's, like, Netflix special debuted and it was, like, promoted everywhere.
Rotten Tomatoes, I think, gave it a 98% when actual critics gave it, what, I think, I forgot the exact score. 10%.
unidentified
And then they were like, we have the perfect solution here.
luke rudkowski
We're just going to totally get rid of all the percentages.
So you can't even see the exact ratings only left up to the professionals.
And again, we're seeing people's voices just being slowly taken away.
We saw this with comment sections a couple of years ago.
I was screaming about it.
I was sad to see it.
But now I think with this happening, they already disabled comments on the official White House YouTube channel.
I think it's only going to be a matter of time until they disable the likes and dislike button because it is... I wonder if that's legal though because, sorry, but you remember Trump was brought to court for using his presidential account to block people.
matt braynard
They said he couldn't do that.
I wonder if that's worthy of a lawsuit for their disabling comments on YouTube.
luke rudkowski
There was court proceedings literally saying Donald Trump can't block people because Reply Guys Jobs was literally replying to Donald Trump.
So, I mean, do you know the court rulings on that?
matt braynard
Yeah, they said he had to unblock the people he had blocked.
luke rudkowski
Did he unblock it?
matt braynard
I imagine so.
tim pool
Most of them.
matt braynard
Now they're all out of work.
tim pool
I believe AOC still has a bunch of people blocked as well, and there's a couple other congress people that are getting sued as well.
luke rudkowski
I'm seeing a bunch of people tweet being like, man, Donald Trump must be so bored right now.
He's golfing.
And also, YouTube just recently also expanded his suspension for another two weeks on YouTube.
tim pool
Yeah, he's gone.
They're not bringing him back.
luke rudkowski
And a couple banks have also cancelled his accounts.
So, yes.
Impeachment proceedings are still going to continue in the Senate.
unidentified
And, yeah, things are not really looking that good for Donald Trump, to say the least.
tim pool
But things are looking really good for some of our favorite TV hosts.
The world is always brighter with authoritarianism.
It's bringing some people to tears.
Check the story out.
For those that are listening, we're going to start off this segment with me asking you a simple question.
And don't look if you haven't yet.
Don't look.
Who do you think cried when Joe Biden won?
Which anchor on TV cried?
lydia smith
Probably all the right-wingers.
luke rudkowski
I know this one.
tim pool
Who is it, Luke?
luke rudkowski
Miss Maddow.
tim pool
Rachel Maddow from the Daily Mail.
Who is media's biggest Biden suck-up?
Rachel Maddow cries on air while Al Roker fist bumps the president, and the new press secretary Jen Psaki gets a very warm welcome.
Rachel Maddow said that she'd worked through half a box of Kleenex on air.
Amazing!
Oh yes, weeping on air and making fun of Trump staffers.
Rachel Maddow, a well-known Trump critic, confessed on her show that she worked through half a box of Kleenex while watching the day's events.
I'm a faucet that can't turn off.
I remember the last time she almost cried on TV was when the Mueller report came back that Donald Trump wasn't colluding with Russia.
And you could see her struggling not to cry.
And there's that really funny video where the lady is like filming with her phone and she's laughing and she goes, she crying!
lydia smith
Oh, I love that.
tim pool
It went so viral.
It was amazing.
They say ABC News' Byron Pitts drew criticism for calling Biden the nation's Papa-in-Chief after listening to his inaugural address.
I love this one tweet.
This New York Times bestselling author said, we can now rest.
No more 3 a.m.
waking up with anxiety.
It's like when you were a little kid falling asleep in the backseat knowing that dad was driving and everything would be okay.
And I'm just like, I wouldn't want to fall asleep in a car with Joe Biden driving it.
I'd want to be holding on and I'd be wearing my seatbelt.
But here's where it gets interesting.
It wasn't just Rachel Maddow who was crying.
It's also Andrew Sullivan.
Isn't Andrew Sullivan a conservative?
luke rudkowski
I'm not even sure where anybody is now.
tim pool
Oh my gosh.
I don't think it matters.
He tweeted just walking the dog and finding myself in tears, relief, patriotism.
The ceremony, the ceremony restored something inside.
lydia smith
Oh my God.
tim pool
That's kind of scary.
You know what I mean?
Like the cult, like the cult, like a view of the American industrial machine.
You know, the people who look at Joe Biden and the establishment and they just want to drop to their knees and
worship the establishment and they cry when the establishment power
is returned.
ian crossland
Who is it that was walking their dog?
tim pool
Andrew Sullivan.
It's like all the murder and all the death and all of the authoritarianism.
They don't care.
matt braynard
Well, they've got at least a four-year vacation ahead of them because, you know, they don't have to do any critical reporting.
They just have to repeat what's said, fed to them by the White House press office and the DNC.
They don't have to do anything anymore.
tim pool
It was so hard with Trump, you know, like having to do work.
matt braynard
Do their jobs.
luke rudkowski
And now, literally, a lot of their coverage is aesthetics and the clothing that some of these people wear.
lydia smith
Did you see those sneakers?
unidentified
Yes.
luke rudkowski
Look at those chucks that Kamala Harris is wearing.
I mean, that's literally, I think it was ABC News that sat her down.
I mean, we're talking about one of the most important people in our political discourse right now, and you're asking her about sneakers?
I mean, are you kidding me?
There was another anchor on MSNBC that I tweeted about that compared Biden's administration to the Avengers.
Literally, she said they are superheroes that will, quote, save us all.
I tweeted, well, he's more like Thanos with the snap of a finger who's going to take away half of your income.
And it's just absolutely ridiculous to have this kind of glorification of politicians, of power, Which, again, just shows you the utter lack of responsibility and duty that these supposed journalists have for their profession.
It's not a profession.
It's literally just brown nosers.
tim pool
Here's the issue, right?
When a bunch of middle American people who lost their jobs start cheering for Trump and making these silly drawings of Trump riding a tank or riding a velociraptor, I don't care all that much because they're regular people.
They're regular people who believe in Donald Trump.
When the mainstream corporate media uses the might of their billions of dollars to prop up one political party and destroy the other, that's disconcerting.
If I see a group of people like, you know, I've never really cared all that much about the Q stuff, because I'm like, I don't care who these people are, they can believe, they can have their little forums, they can believe whatever they want, I think it's bad for them, I think it led to bad things, and it's sad.
But what about the other conspiracy on the left?
The crazy Russia stuff, the Putin calling Donald Trump during the Capitol riot, and they prop it up.
You know, it's difficult to actually get in to find these communities that are full of weird conspiracies.
It's difficult.
It's easy to turn on MSNBC and then hear fake news and propaganda and insanity and then start believing it.
And they want that.
matt braynard
Q is just a much less effective version of CNN and the New York Times.
Much less dangerous.
They create these conspiracy theories.
They incite riots with BLM mythology that says that cops are just going around gunning down innocent black men because they're black.
I mean, they invented this mythology.
The country burned the entire summer because of their conspiracy theories.
Q just causes some awkward moments at Thanksgiving.
tim pool
Right.
Well, a lot of people who stormed the capital were Q people, like the Viking guy, right?
So some bad stuff comes of it, right?
matt braynard
He also claimed he was an alien, though.
tim pool
No, no, no.
Well, yes, but in the body of a human, and he practices life magic.
And he explained that his presence there was to ward off the dark magic people who would see him and then go, whoa, we got like a big player, we better back off.
Because his life magic was powerful.
Yeah, that's the insurrection we were facing.
Could you imagine a government by that guy?
It's like the national religion would be the incoherent ramblings on the Dr. Bronner's soap bottles.
luke rudkowski
He would probably get more likes on YouTube than Biden.
ian crossland
Oh, definitely.
I have a feeling he still thinks that he preserved a bunch of people's lives.
He's like, if I wasn't there, so many more people would have died.
tim pool
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
ian crossland
And maybe he did.
He looked kind of funny, like he brought a levity to it.
tim pool
So look, the Q stuff, it bums me out.
These people just want to believe it, you know?
They want to believe that, I'm telling you right now, they still believe Trump has got a secret plan.
They think the new Capitol is in Florida and Trump is working with the military.
And I kid you not, because I tweeted this on the 20th, like how long until they start saying that, you know, the real plan was to allow Biden to be president.
So that way they would confirm the crime and the treason had been committed, because if he didn't assume the office, then the treason never happened, right?
They really believe it.
matt braynard
Sorry.
I was going to say, the way the media decides to focus on that particular group, it always makes me wonder, because they can never quite answer the question.
So, let's say Q supporters was 5% of the public.
Maybe it's significant, but what if it's really like 0.5%?
Is there any measurement?
Because they sort of focus in on this demographic of crazies and make it seem like, well, that's common, that's mainstream.
And they do this constantly with like, they find some extremists or some weirdo.
And make it seem like it's representative of something larger, when in fact, it's barely even that entity.
Or it doesn't exist at all.
It's with the Caliphate podcast that New York Times did.
It was completely manufactured.
So like, all this attention that Qs get... How many people actually are quote-unquote Qs?
Has there been a survey done that established them as something more than 1% of the population, if that?
luke rudkowski
But it was given life because of the major censorship efforts.
A lot of people who spewed the Q stuff said, well, if we're not legitimate, why is YouTube?
Why is Google?
Why is Facebook and Twitter censoring us?
And that, of course, created a situation where the conversation didn't take place in front of everyone.
It took place in other parts of the internet that are far away in seedy places where crazy people go to discuss different things.
It even came to a point where YouTube started banning and deleting videos that were critical of Q people.
tim pool
They say, whenever they get censored, they say, over-target.
Which means that, oh no, we figured it out, that's why they're reacting this way.
They're trying to ban us because we were right.
matt braynard
Jack Dorsey actually sort of admitted this because you remember after Trump was banned off of Twitter he sort of and then Parler was kicked off he made his little tweet thread and it was very slimy and I don't think authentic but in the beginning says that banning Trump and the other platform you know what happened to them has in his words he said caused the conversation to become fractured that's exactly what you're describing because if we're not all in the same place talking we can't all correct the little you know and And if somebody goes really far off the reservation, well, we're all still here.
We can just pull them back and put our arms around them.
But when they're off on their own, there's that communication has been broke because they've been banned off the platform.
luke rudkowski
There was literal people saying, OK, let's look at these Q drops.
Let's let's break them down.
OK, this didn't happen.
This didn't happen.
This isn't a search.
And they say this is going to happen.
Let's actually look at this.
Let's see if there's any evidence.
Let's see if there's any documents backing this.
Nothing.
And slowly talking people out of it.
Those videos were deleted from YouTube.
tim pool
They thought that Mueller was working for Trump.
They said that Mueller, they needed a way to get in a special prosecutor with a deep state realizing it, and that Mueller was pretending to investigate Trump for the press, but it was actually going to be about Hillary Clinton.
And then it never happened.
And they claim to have found the location of these camps, and they went to these places, and then there was nothing there.
And it was years ago that people like Cernovich and Jack Posobiec, some of the highest profile Trump supporters, were like, dude, it's not real.
People don't wanna let it go.
And then when, I remember, it's just been, for the past several weeks, people saying, Monday's the day, the states are gonna start flipping, and the arrests are gonna happen, the storm is coming, nothing happens.
Then I remember the day before inauguration.
I had people posting on, I see people posting on Facebook, tomorrow is the final day, they're waiting for the last moment, and then Biden gets inaugurated.
And then, all of a sudden, there were these crazy posts popping up, like, what's happening, what's happening, I'm so confused.
And then the next day, it's all part of the plan.
ian crossland
It's all part of the plan.
Was it a real thing with someone that actually had info, but then it just got co-opted by crazy people that are like, I'm gonna pretend like I'm Q and trick everyone.
tim pool
No, it's like Nostradamus.
It's like, I'm gonna make a prediction for you right now.
The dark eagle.
The moon.
Green blades.
address. Friday. At some point in the next several years, someone will find this clip
and they will associate those random things I just said and be like, he was right. I didn't
say anything. Or I could ask questions. Oh, cute. As you ask questions. Why is Nancy Pelosi
wanting machine guns? Why is the National Guard refusing to answer why they're there?
ian crossland
Yeah, they asked a lot of questions.
tim pool
That's what Q does.
Ask questions.
Why is the military moving a plane in the dead of night to Joint Base Andrews?
Why did another plane go to Texas?
ian crossland
And they call themselves Q because that's the name of that guy from Star Trek Next Gen?
tim pool
No, because of Q Clearance.
ian crossland
What's that?
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
the highest level of security clearance you can get so they say
luke rudkowski
uh... i'm i'm bit i don't know that's true i don't know and i was a lot of people attribute what happened with q as
a government-run psychological operation as a side up because if you look at
the effects of it it essentially undermined
not only donald trump but any form of legitimate criticism of government
you know instead of actually considering what the government has been doing
the american foreign policy where our tax dollars are going people were talking about
riddles on the internet
and looking for things that weren't really there at all from the very beginning.
And when you see the cause and effect, a lot of people are saying, hey, this was directly done for nefarious purposes that essentially backfired on anyone who believed in it.
matt braynard
You know what else is just like that?
Voter fraud.
No, here's my point is because, look, this type of research I did was into something that was much more concrete and practical, whereas these voter fraud conspiracies just made it seem like the entire election was a result of voter fraud.
Now, I've said what I've said in other channels about what I think would happen, but the problem is What this has done is distract us from something that had a much bigger impact than illegal ballots, which was over the last four years with hundreds of millions of dollars, the left went on a registration march.
They did aggressive voter registration, voter engagement, and voter turnout that was unmatched on the right.
That had a much bigger impact than anything related to fraudulent ballots, voter fraud, etc.
However, because we're all absorbed with this voter fraud thing, we're not paying attention to the real problem, which is those conservatives, those on the right, just completely did nothing on the voter registration side to match what the left was doing.
But as long as we're talking about voter fraud, we're not paying attention to the real problem, which is exactly what you've said.
tim pool
And it was a lot of rule changes over the past year.
matt braynard
That too.
tim pool
It was well before COVID that Pennsylvania passed the law, and these are Republicans by the way, for mail-in voting.
So that's why I say the whole thing was actually Trump getting oceans elevened.
The real moves were made well in advance of the election, and we were watching it happen.
There was even controversy where Trump was like, you know, oh, vote by mail is bad.
Oh, wait, wait, wait, you should vote because they realized it was actually disenfranchising his own voters.
The Democrats had planned this for a long time.
Stacey Abrams has been running a massive get out the vote campaign and fighting legal battles to maintain voter registration rolls and things like that.
So I agree with you.
I think it happened a long time ago and I think that's what you're working on now.
matt braynard
Yeah, well, Look Ahead America, our primary mission is registering, educating, and turning out to vote disaffected patriotic Americans.
I have a database of millions of American citizens who are patriotic, who are not registered to vote, and we're going to go into their communities, just like Acorn would do on the left, or Stacey Abrams would do in Fulton County, Engage these people, get them registered to vote, educate them, have events, do real community organizing, and turn them out to vote on election day because nobody on the patriotic side has done that.
And that's what our primary mission is.
And the problem with all this is I bring this up and then people say, well, what's the point?
They're just going to steal the election again.
And again, I made the point that illegal ballots did have an impact, but nowhere near the impact of the voter registration and then the lowering the bar to make it easier to vote.
Those two things together.
tim pool
I think, yeah, mail-in voting.
Republicans overwhelmingly voted in person, and then you had Democrats who overwhelmingly voted early.
And so a lot of people don't realize, I hear the same thing over and over again about, like, the late-night, you know, boosts for these candidates, and it's like, Yeah, those were mail-in ballot dumps.
And they were from urban centers, which are overwhelmingly... So you take these two factors, that Republicans don't vote by mail, for the most part, and urban centers are overwhelmingly for Biden, and you get a 95% Biden drop.
It makes perfect sense.
You could see it all coming.
And so now what the left has been saying is that Stacey Abrams saved the country, because her get-out-the-vote campaign in Georgia won them the Senate.
I also think the Republican party burnt themselves to the ground by not supporting Trump and by not supporting the people.
But you know, here we are now.
Well, it'll be interesting to see what happens because Trump is talking, uh, well, I should say it's been reported.
Trump is floating the Patriot party, but I'm, I'm, I wonder what you think about that, Matt, because you're, you're, you want to get people to register to vote.
What if people come out, they get registered and then they go and vote Patriot instead of Republican?
matt braynard
So, you know, as a C3, we register anybody who asks us for help with it, regardless of any of their background or their partisanship.
We're just about educating people on patriotic issues such as H-1B visa abuse or corporate censorship and election integrity, that kind of thing.
But, putting on my general consultant hat, I think that any third party attempts are primarily operations driven by narcissism.
Here's the premise, okay?
The premise is that you don't have enough power to take over the Republican Party or the Democrat Party and then win a general election.
So somehow you're miraculously going to build a party from scratch and then win a general election.
Here's a hard truth that even I have trouble accepting.
If your electoral coalition doesn't have people in it that make you deeply uncomfortable, it's probably not broad enough to win a general election.
It's painful and tough medicine, but some folks just can't accept that.
Look, I use the word narcissism about third parties, and I'm going to explain what I mean.
We all know the story of Narcissus, right?
He fell in love with his own image reflecting back in the lake, and he couldn't move away from that, and he died.
I believe his problem wasn't that he found himself to be so beautiful.
He saw in himself perfection.
That wasn't his problem.
His problem was that he could not find enough beauty in the real world to leave that and go seek real nourishment.
He fell in love with the ideal, which did not exist, rather than falling in love with the real that, while imperfect, still had nourishment and the ability to sustain him and to grow him.
And when you look at a political party, GOP or Democrat, and you see imperfection and you only insist on perfection, that doesn't exist.
That gets you nowhere unless you're willing to work with other people whom are flawed, whom you disagree with, whom you may strongly disagree with on some issues.
So your refusal to engage with other Republicans because you think they're sellouts or rhinos, or let's say you're a Democrat, you refuse to engage because you think they're owned by the banks.
Well that's your own narcissism refusing to accept the fact that this is the real world and if you want to get anything done in electoral politics you don't have to love it but you've got to find a way to work with others and you can't just fall in love with your own reflection and go off and have any impact that matters.
luke rudkowski
Very good points made and I think also a lot of Trump supporters are absolutely disenfranchised with all the latest moves he's been making the last few weeks and you know for a lot of people that I'm seeing are really really disappointed especially with the pardoning list that essentially is a big debacle.
tim pool
Yeah, he could have come out, he could have done one thing, you know?
Could have been Julian Assange.
Instead, we got crooked cronies, the Detroit... Spies.
Some people deserved it.
luke rudkowski
Mercenaries.
tim pool
I can understand some of it.
I can.
But it was just a big letdown.
matt braynard
You know, I have many, many criticisms of Mitt Romney.
I could criticize him all day long, but he did one very smart thing, I agree, is that when he was governor of Massachusetts, he didn't pardon a single person.
And if I get a president who abides by that because the pardon power is really kind of weird It's weird because it doesn't seem to fit in with the rest of our government where it's all law and order There's a process checks and balances, you know, you get convicted you can appeal etc This is like a magical wand that exists outside of everything And I think you know to his in that that's the only thing I actually think I could say that's good about Mitt Romney's that you know If we had a president embrace that he probably avoid a lot of trouble Because then, if he came out at the beginning and said, I'm not going to pardon anybody, it doesn't exist, then all the lobbying and corruption that surrounds trying to get those pardons would immediately evaporate.
tim pool
Or, what if he said, I'm going to pardon everybody.
You don't need to lobby me at all.
matt braynard
I guess so, alright.
tim pool
Everyone.
That crazy guy who was selling drugs, pardoned.
luke rudkowski
Joe Exotic, get him out.
tim pool
Joe Exotic, get him a limo.
ian crossland
Could a president do that, technically?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Every single one.
unidentified
What?
matt braynard
At least from federal crimes.
luke rudkowski
Federal charges.
tim pool
Why can't we get a president who just does something?
If we were to get a president that defied the military-industrial complex, how would that work?
They would have to flee the country and work abroad?
really, really awful people.
I'm saying Trump could have sat back with a big old stack of paper
and be like, let's see, distribute distribution of
marijuana. You're free to go.
luke rudkowski
Dude, if we were a nonviolent offenses, that's right.
ian crossland
We were to get a president that defied the military industrial
complex. How would that work?
They would have to leave the country and like work
abroad.
matt braynard
I think it would be a problem, though, if a president did that,
because what would happen is that the responsibility
that legislators have and the process of passing
legislation, House, Senate, then present sign it.
It would basically neutralize that. And then we would become
this entity that's completely subject to
a president's women.
tim pool
No, but they can do that with executive orders.
He can instruct the FBI, for instance, not to arrest people for drug charges.
matt braynard
There's limits.
Oh, yeah, but that's different than parting somebody who's been convicted, and there's some limits to what a president can excuse.
And we did this before, and it was a mistake.
This is a little bit arcane, but the Congress passed what I would consider an anti-free speech campaign finance reform bill.
Many of them knowing that things in it were unconstitutional, unconstitutional restrictions, and what they were going to do is just count on the Supreme Court.
Oh, the Supreme Court will fix it.
Well, it turned out the Supreme Court didn't fix it, and they didn't actually get around to even changing some things about it for another 10 or 20 years.
So what I think would happen is the legislature would abrogate the responsibility to uphold the Constitution because they just assumed the President would do it or the Supreme Court or somebody else would do it.
So I think that would be a downside to your very wonderful fantasy.
tim pool
I just want to see somebody for once.
You know, look, there are a lot of people in jail that we know shouldn't be there.
Because we have too many rigid judges and lawyers.
I'll tell you, when I was, I think I was, how old was I, 20 maybe?
I got pulled over.
I had just gone to Colorado to visit my sister on Fort Carson because her husband was in Iraq on the ground as a field medic and she was terrified and distraught and I came to, you know, just hang out with her and provide her with some company.
When I came back to Illinois, I got pulled over by a cop and I had no idea why.
I had done nothing illegal.
I wasn't speeding.
And the first thing the cop does is he walks up to the window and he goes, you Tim Pool?
unidentified
Yes, sir.
tim pool
And he goes, out of the vehicle, you're under arrest.
And I was like, uh, what's happening?
He goes, you're driving on a suspended license.
I am?
I had no idea.
Because if you're under the age of 21 and you get two moving violations, two different tickets, they suspend your license for three months.
I didn't even know that it happened, and I didn't realize that I had previously gotten a bogus ticket for speeding when I wasn't.
I was exiting off of Lake Shore, I was onto Belmont Avenue from Lake Shore Drive, I was going about five miles under the limit, and a cop pulled me over and gave me a ticket.
So here I am by myself.
Now, my license is suspended.
I had no idea.
Never received notification.
Had my license and everything.
And the guy says, don't worry, I'm gonna I-bond you if someone can come pick you up.
And I was like, okay, I guess.
When I went to court, the prosecutor asked me, you know, what are you gonna do?
If you plead guilty, I'll give you, you know, we'll do this, that, and this.
And I said, can I just let you know what was going on and like what happened?
And he said, sure.
And I explained everything.
And I was like, look, I was coming back from visiting my sister.
I had not received any notifications about a suspension, and I'm really sorry it happened.
And he goes, ah, thanks for your confession.
So it's a year in jail, or you're gonna plead guilty, and we're gonna give you court supervision, and you're gonna pay a fine.
And I was like, okay.
And then when I went to the judge, the judge asked me if I had been coerced, and I said yes.
And he said, what?
And I was like, yeah, he told me I'll go to jail for a year, unless I just tell him I'm guilty.
And the judge rolled his eyes and said, get a lawyer and come back.
Does it make sense that someone who's 20, who got one, who got, who, I got a tail light out and a speeding ticket, now they want to throw me in jail for a year?
Or threaten me with that?
I think that makes literally no sense.
And it's ridiculous that our system has become so rigid that they would say, I don't give a damn about your family, I don't give a damn that your brother-in-law is serving in Iraq and you want to do the right thing.
You broke the law, whether you knew you did or not.
Oh, you were just driving, not breaking any laws.
In fact, One lawyer told me he had no right to pull me over in the first place.
It was a violation of the disclo- what is it called?
The uh... Probable cause?
No, the exclusionary rule.
That I had to have committed a crime to get pulled over in the first place.
But I had no way to fight that.
I had no way to get a lawyer to say, why did you pull over my client?
Uh, well, because I ran his plate and saw his name.
What if it was someone else driving the car?
That was not a legal stop.
Therefore, it's out.
No, I couldn't afford that.
I had no way to fight it.
And so here I am, some 20-year-old dude who had never gotten a notification.
No one says to you, when you're 16 or you're 18, getting a license, by the way, if you get two moving violations, we'll suspend your license.
They don't mail you notification at all.
Just one day, you get pulled over.
It's happened to so many different friends of mine.
And they actually threaten you with jail time for something that... For what?
For what?
There's no human emotion in the system right now.
And so how many people are rotting in prison for something as nonsensical as that?
Especially when it comes to someone who wanted to smoke a little weed in the privacy of their own home, hurting nobody.
And so I'd love to see the system, for once, look at all the people who have been arrested for advocating for jury nullification.
You guys know about this.
Luke, you know about this.
luke rudkowski
Oh yeah, 100%.
tim pool
The juries have the ability to nullify if they think someone shouldn't be punished for it, but if you advocate
for that, they'll arrest you.
The system is broken.
ian crossland
Is it illegal to advocate?
tim pool
No, but they do it anyway and they charge, they give people on contempt of court.
matt braynard
Well, the question is though, what are you going to do about it? I mean, you're talking about it.
tim pool
That's why I like the idea to finally get a politician who's going to look through all
of these different cases.
And I'd love to see a president say, you know what the first thing I'm going to do is?
Oh, we're going to do executive orders.
But I want to see advocacy and review of as many cases as possible to figure out if we
can be human beings again, to see if people actually deserve to get mandatory minimums.
There's a story I learned when I was at College of DuPage about a kid whose family was watching their neighbor's home and he went inside and he took a beer and he got four years in prison on a mandatory minimum for robbery And the judge refused.
The judge said, it's a mandatory minimum.
You went in the house and you took property.
And when they said, yeah, but we were asked to watch the house.
It doesn't matter.
You went in and took someone's property.
It wasn't yours.
And the people who live there said, we don't care about the beer.
We invite them.
Doesn't matter.
The prison rejected the kid.
This is a story that I don't... You can look this up.
It was Illinois.
It was a story that I was told, and this is now 16 years ago.
The prison, when they reviewed the notes on what the story was and why he was getting four years, they wouldn't let him in the prison.
And the judge intervened, and the kid went to prison.
unidentified
what the what is wrong with this system i have a high level i got i got a
luke rudkowski
example i think is really worth noting here or if you're in california and your
child misses school and then you have come a la harris says the uh... you know
prosecutor there was gonna punish the parents and literally have criminal
charges brought on them because of that let me know yet
uh... there's actually a harvard law professor that came out and said on
average an american a day commits three felonies
on average because of how many laws we have on the books And that's, to me, way too many laws.
tim pool
And that's a good point, too.
But, you know, on top of that, I'm just trying to point out that there's no humanity in the system at all.
It's the like, Illinois has mandatory minimums for drug charges.
It's like, dude, come on.
Are we really going to take someone who's got an addiction and lock them in a prison for four years?
It's not solving the problem.
It's making it worse.
And they don't care.
Look at what happened in Michigan when these juvenile detention centers, the judges were selling kids to them.
The system is broken in so many ways.
And I wanted Trump to just take a hammer and just whack it just a little bit, not break it.
Just give a big middle finger to the messed up nature of how the system works.
matt braynard
I don't mean this as criticism, but I think there's a fatal flaw.
When I asked you what you were going to do about it, you said, I just wish there was this politician or this president.
I wish President Trump... It's got to be you, Tim.
It's got to be you.
And these methods that I brought up...
This is hard work.
It's hard work and I hear your complaints, I understand it, but we have to remember something is that the country that we have, where we do generally like the country despite yours, this country was founded because a man rounded up a bunch of other guys on Christmas in the middle of the night and crossed a freezing river and fired guns at other people.
Because our great-grandfathers drowned in mud in trenches.
Because our grandfathers died on a beach.
So for us to expect that things are going to go well for us without making similar efforts, or even efforts to even 10% of that, I think is unreasonable.
So all these problems you're talking about, mandatory minimums in Illinois, I know there are groups that are out there actively lobbying to reform them.
And it's not going to happen overnight, but it's one step at a time.
This issue with young people getting two moving violations, what happened to you?
There are multiple solutions available to us.
Get that prosecuted.
Those guys are elected.
You can get rid of them or change the law itself.
So all these things are fixable, but it takes time, it takes effort, it takes training and organization.
tim pool
And so we are doing stuff.
matt braynard
We got to do stuff.
tim pool
We're talking about it on our show and bringing you on because you are the guy with boots on the ground working towards those solutions.
I have always been, you know, I used to do fundraising for nonprofits.
That helps.
It was always marketing and events and awareness.
unidentified
Absolutely.
tim pool
and I'm still doing essentially the same thing, building awareness and spreading information
in certain capacities.
So if I can highlight the issue and then I can showcase what you're working on because
it'll help solve those problems, then we're doing the right thing.
matt braynard
Absolutely.
tim pool
To the best of my abilities.
matt braynard
Those C3s, I'll tell you, if you do fundraisers for them, that's manna from heaven because
I can tell you from somebody running one, you'd like to think it didn't matter, but
money matters a lot for everything from like mandatory minimums to election reform to getting
the, we need professional staff to train and organize these grassroots lobbyists to get
out in the field and everything is expensive.
Everything costs money.
So I, my hat's off to you.
If you actually step forward and do fundraisers for organizations like that, that, that is
some, that is tremendous and it makes a difference.
ian crossland
People donate to your 501c3.
matt braynard
Lookaheadamerica.org.
ian crossland
Sure.
What do you use the money for?
matt braynard
Well, we would be raising, we have staff that we would send out into the state of Virginia this year because there's an election, to literally go door-to-door registering Americans where we know they live and they're not registered.
To literally stand outside of Costco for 18 hours a day and outside of Walmart registering people and going to high school football games, going to evangelical Hispanic churches.
And remember, when we register somebody, that's not the beginning, that's not the end of our relationship with them.
That's the beginning.
So we're going to continue communicating them, letting them know how important it is that they vote, what issues matter, where politicians stand on these issues, like mandatory minimums, for example.
And then when the election comes, turning them out to vote, making sure they're educated on where the candidates stand on those issues.
Now, we don't tell them who to vote for.
We're not partisan.
But that's literally what the money goes to, is having people go out and train volunteers, and going to these state capitals.
Like, we could go to the state capital of Illinois and organize people to go talk to their representatives.
Because, you know, these representatives, believe it or not, they're not geniuses, right?
And many of them have like 20 issues in front of them, and the reason those issues are what's in front of them is because that's what got pushed in front of them.
So if their constituents start pushing these mandatory minimums, say, hey, we got to get
rid of these, suddenly they'll do something about it, but they don't do it unless you
get it, you know, not physically or violently, but you got to get in their faces and make
sure this is an issue that will determine whether or not they get reelected.
tim pool
And then they start to listen and figuratively get in their face, like literally approach
them and say, hey, I want this changed politely.
matt braynard
Always polite.
But passionate, well-informed, and always, you know, ready to engage them on... This is how the democracy works.
Because if we're not going to do it this way, then, I mean, just imagine what you saw on January 6th.
Times a thousand plus automatic weapons.
Because it's either this way or some other alternative.
This is all we've got.
tim pool
The famous quote is, those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable.
matt braynard
I've heard that.
tim pool
Yeah.
Was that JFK who said that?
ian crossland
It's a genius quote.
I'm going to look it up.
matt braynard
It sounds more like one of those Che Guevara type quotes.
unidentified
Maybe.
tim pool
But you don't have to take it to the literal idea of overthrowing your government.
It's just generally, if we can't change the government and solve these problems, then people eventually explode.
matt braynard
Right, but I don't think you get to go explode if you haven't tried talking to your—if you don't know the name of your state legislators and you're complaining about things, then I—you're—get out of here.
ian crossland
It was Kennedy.
matt braynard
Come on, man!
lydia smith
It was Kennedy.
ian crossland
Kennedy, those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
Remarks on the first anniversary of the Alliance for Progress, 13th of March, 1962.
tim pool
Well, there it is.
How about we jump over to them Super Chats?
If you haven't already, smash the like button, hit the notification bell, subscribe and share the show if you really do like it, because that's the best way to help.
But also go to TimCast.com, become a member, because our first Super Chat says, when are you guys going to talk about Twitter refusing to take down Bad stuff.
Bad videos of children.
Yes.
We're gonna do a bonus segment because we're gonna get into, like, this is a serious story.
There's a lawsuit going on between Twitter and some very, very serious issues.
So this is gonna appear on TimGuess.com.
lydia smith
I'll talk about that.
tim pool
The one benefit, so look, I don't like putting things behind paywalls when it's very, very important news.
There's also concerns of YouTube silencing and shutting down and protecting their allies in Silicon Valley.
So one of the reasons we set up TimCast.com was to protect ourselves from the threats of censorship, and we're going to go and rail and go through this story and stuff.
So stick around, become a member of TimCast.com, and we're going to really rail against these big tech companies.
Geary Vision says, You're right, Tim.
The first M16s issued in NAMM were automatic, but were quickly retrofitted to semi-auto because soldiers would disregard training by using spray-and-pray instead of aiming and firing, which is more effective.
matt braynard
That's why it's the M16A2 that they have.
The A1 was fully automatic.
The A2 went to burst.
It wasn't selective, like they could, they got rid of the full auto because Yeah, the A1 had full auto, then they got rid of it, so it was basically single, burst, and safety.
And those of us that have civilian versions have safety and single.
ian crossland
Yep, yep.
tim pool
Interesting.
Gareth Green says, DVD didn't exist when Return of Jafar came out.
It was the age of VHS.
Thanks for letting us know.
Alexander Ferris says, I totally agree with you guys.
Indeed, I hate censorship.
Free speech is good.
Screw censorship, I hate it.
Political correctness is so stupid.
Yes.
Sean Anderson says, but didn't Joe Biden say Antifa is an idea, not an organization, during the presidential debates?
How can this poor man fight phantoms?
That is a good question.
All right, let's see.
Eric says, have you seen the video of Biden saying, salute the Marines, while walking past Marines without saluting them?
Yeah, maybe he was just telling his wife to do it.
I saw that video and people are claiming that he was instructed to do it, like someone in his earpiece told him and then he just repeated them instead of doing it.
Or his wife was in front of him and he said, salute the Marines.
luke rudkowski
I hope that we don't- But if- why would his wife salute the Marines going in there?
And people say that they did see an earpiece in there, but it's just kind of weird.
matt braynard
Why would he tell his wife and him not do it, though?
tim pool
He's in the military.
ian crossland
She's not.
He's the commander.
She's not in the military.
So they were telling him to salute them and he just repeated it?
tim pool
Is that the theory?
Well, that's the theory.
But who knows?
ian crossland
I hope that we don't go down a path of hating on Biden.
I kind of want to avoid pointing blame game anymore.
Because that happened for four years and it was really annoying.
tim pool
I hear you.
I hear you.
Biden is literally the devil.
He's the most evil man ever on the planet.
He's the... I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
No, I think Biden is... I think he's crooked.
I don't like the guy.
But, you know, well, if he does good things, I'll say he did good things.
You know, if he comes out and he...
ian crossland
I know I can't personally.
unidentified
Well, he's already bolstering our troops in the Middle East, right?
luke rudkowski
Well, he's considering reversing Trump's orders, sending troops home.
So I mean when you look at his foreign policy, it's very hawkish
tim pool
Donald Hudgens says Tim first super chat joining the website today. Thank you for speaking truth here
Thank you. Here is to your building a truth Empire Well, to the best of our abilities.
Not everything I say is correct and not everything we say is correct.
We just will try to be honest to the best of our abilities.
And for those of you that have joined, if you're having an issue, you can email members at timcast.com and we'll get you sorted.
It's a new site, so there's some bugs.
We're getting them fixed.
There's a third party plugin or something because certain email providers aren't working properly.
But we'll get it fixed.
We'll get it fixed.
Just, you know, members at timcast.com.
NuclearWinterGamer says I bought a 3D printer this this new year and will try and make things for myself and not give money to CCP.
There's no reason why we can't make things.
Seriously, could you imagine if you just bought a 3D printer and started manufacturing basic goods?
Like you bought a bunch of ABS and like, what do people need?
What can you make out of plastic and get printed and then sell it on the shelf?
luke rudkowski
Custom built parts that you can't easily get unless they're shipped from China.
You could just now 3D print them if you have the right skills to do so.
tim pool
And if you have a 3D printer, you can tell your friends, you know, just a little bit of profit on top and I'll print it up for you and they'll be ready in a couple hours.
luke rudkowski
It's a lot of work.
I mean, we have a 3D printer here.
I'm still trying to get the basic kind of understanding of it.
But it's fun.
It's really cool stuff.
tim pool
Patrick Mulligan says the Jacobin, Biden, Jesus cover was an obvious joke.
You know, we realized that at the end, like maybe it was supposed to be tongue in cheek.
I guess the issue is there were too many posts from actual leftists.
I referenced it where they talked about the sun breaking, like the clouds breaking, the sunlight beaming down on Biden.
And so I was like, why would I assume that was a joke when they've been tweeting all of this stuff nonstop?
To be fair, Jacobin is leftist, not establishment necessarily.
And so they've been critical of Democrats.
So we probably should have caught that one.
And that's on us.
By all means, feel free to rag on us.
I'm sure the leftists are.
Scott Hale says, Tim, big question.
Why won't a social media platform pay a percentage of data, info revenue, and ad revenue to all its participants?
I feel like this helps both parties lift up the bottom of society.
5% would be big for most.
Maybe, but Twitter's got, what, 300 million users?
Their profits aren't nearly that high.
You'd get a penny.
I've heard people say the whole, like, buy your data, own your data stuff, and I'm like, they make .1 of a cent, you know?
ian crossland
Mines is doing it.
If you sign up for Mines Plus, so it's like, I don't know, it is $10 a month or something, then you get a, they split 25% of the revenue with the user base, the Mines Plus user base.
tim pool
Interesting.
matt braynard
I mean, it feels like you should- there's some way for you to make money off the fact that you're allowing yourself to see advertising.
I mean, it feels like I should be paid to look at advertising, like, in a monetary form through the social networks.
tim pool
Yeah, it's more than that.
ian crossland
It's based on the activity that you drive through Minds+.
tim pool
If you have 100 people who are in the pro program paying $10, that means Minds makes $1,000 and then pays out $250 back to the users.
ian crossland
It's kind of pointless.
But if you're the one that does a lot of activity, you might put $10 in but get $40 back.
tim pool
So it's not about percentage, it's about activity-based.
ian crossland
Yeah, they pay back of their revenue, they pay back 25% of it, divided equally amongst the people.
matt braynard
Like Substack.
ian crossland
Is that what it does?
matt braynard
Well, I mean, you draw people eyeballs to content, either on a social network or on a website, and they're kind of just the managers of the ads placements and revenue collection.
luke rudkowski
I think Brave also shares ads that you see on their platform.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
Texas Horse Rescue says, count me in, Matt.
Texas spends a fortune on state contracts with these tech giants.
Hit them in the wallet.
Stop.
Hate.
Create.
Good ideas change the world.
matt braynard
Texas is at the top.
I was just there in Austin, and that's at the top of our list for this initiative.
And I look forward to seeing you at our online training session a week from now.
tim pool
Jason M says, give us a website, please.
I want to work with your guest.
Tell us how.
matt braynard
Lookaheadamerica.org.
Right on.
tim pool
Garhent says, put out a digital magazine for D&D adventurers and content as part of TimCast.com donation.
Imagine having orcs being savage and drow actually being blue.
Wizards of the Coast has removed that.
Find writers?
Ian, you want to make D&D books?
ian crossland
Should we just create like a mythology of our own?
Call it something different, but use elves and dwarves and dark dwarves and drow and drake?
tim pool
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
We were talking about doing a culture war D&D kind of thing that was like way over the top.
Yeah.
ian crossland
Yeah, you know, I mean, the rule sets open source.
So do they just want like a magazine, like a story art or a digital magazine for D&D adventurers?
So badass.
matt braynard
I wasn't cool enough to play Dungeons and Dragons as a kid.
ian crossland
You're always cool enough.
tim pool
Let's see.
It's Just Me says, Matt, I tried to donate to lookaheadamerica.com and it wouldn't allow me to donate.
Is it lookamerica.org?
matt braynard
Look ahead America.
tim pool
Lookaheadamerica.org.
I think this is amazing and I've been encouraging friends to get involved.
Hope to be on the Wednesday training.
matt braynard
Sounds good.
ian crossland
Cool.
tim pool
Let's see where we're at now.
Uncultured Barbarian says... Well, interesting.
Check out Operation Trust sometime because it's basically Q but in the 1920 Soviet Union.
They used well-known generals to convince the monarchist that they had a secret plan in the works to bring back the
Tsar and the Bolsheviks.
Sound... well, interesting. I mean, that's one way to do it, right?
unidentified
Let's see.
tim pool
Nodai says, I'm a 20-year-old from enemy lines here on Long Island, and I can say that we Gen Z is a bit more right-wing that some give credit for.
It seems to me that patriotism is a form of counterculture.
It is.
It's true.
Mr. Hunt, first name Mike, says, a nation in distress.
We are turning our flags upside down.
Many people are.
I've seen that.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I love this debate.
I would love to go way, way deep on this, because I think it's so pervasive in society.
Video games, undoubtedly, are pervasive in society.
a good think it's free expression.
ian crossland
I love this debate.
We should I would love to go like way way deep on this because I think it's like so
pervasive in society.
Video games undoubtedly are pervasive in society and I love it.
tim pool
Brady says so when does the division go from game to documentary?
A lot of people pointed out that DC looks like The Division 2.
Have you guys ever played The Division 2?
luke rudkowski
No, but I remember hearing that it had references to Dark Winter, the official war game that happened, that Joe Biden said is going to happen.
tim pool
Amazing choice of words, Joe.
So Operation Dark Winter was a war game about a pandemic.
The Division, the first game that came out, you're in New York, it's quarantined, a virus has been released, and Directive 51 has been enacted because the country is in danger, and Directive 51 gives the ability to create a new continuity of government, essentially override the existing government, and then you are the Division, agents going in to stop these rogue groups.
So then the Division 2 takes place in D.C.
and there's barricades and fences everywhere and rogue groups around D.C.
It's a really good game.
I played both pretty extensively.
Yeah, good fun.
The New York design was amazing.
I remember living in New York and playing it and explaining to people that I knew where everything was because I lived here and I knew where it was.
It's like, oh, we gotta go to Radio City Music Hall.
I know where that is, just follow me.
Like, everyone else is like, we'll look on the map.
You don't need to.
I live here, it's just down the corner and we turn around.
It wasn't to scale or anything like that.
Fran Pham says, Ian, there are Native Americans in Red Dead Redemption 2.
In fact, the later half of the game is centered on them.
Red Dead Redemption 2 mostly doesn't have the natives violently attack you and vice versa, because that's, well, you know, not PC.
ian crossland
I know.
For better or worse.
tim pool
Let's see where we're at.
ian crossland
That might be true.
tim pool
Sinjito says impulse to cause harm.
Ian needs some therapy or something, man.
ian crossland
That might be true.
tim pool
Joshua Brunson says Ian and Tim's discussions are the best.
You see, that's entirely the point.
ian crossland
You belong here, Josh.
tim pool
Goatman Jack says, I love when Tim and Ian get heated.
LMAO.
ian crossland
Especially when it's about video games.
matt braynard
I feel bad about trying to broker peace because maybe I just should have thrown some kindling on the fire.
unidentified
What do you think about movies?
luke rudkowski
Welcome to my world.
tim pool
You should have joined my side and you should have joined Ian's side.
But not like argue with us.
Goating us on.
Luke's just like, you're so right, Tim.
luke rudkowski
Don't take this from them.
unidentified
I won't, I promise.
tim pool
What did someone say?
HTTR says, Ian, please don't carjack anyone.
unidentified
I won't, I promise.
tim pool
George Uricich says, in 2077, what makes someone a criminal?
Gaming.
That's the joke from the commercial.
ian crossland
Isn't it like illegal to game in China?
They banned online gaming?
luke rudkowski
Well, some people are so compulsively obsessed with it that they started to, like, ban people from gaming too much because it creates too much social harm.
ian crossland
But there was something about they didn't want them interacting with the outside world, so they, like, ceased their ability to play multiplayer games with, like, Americans.
luke rudkowski
I don't remember that.
tim pool
Dalimar says Ian is stepping on it.
Youth crime stats have gone down.
All crime.
As the rise of video game play over 20 years, stop equating internet trolls and sick jokes with FPS.
Sporkwitch says, books were blamed for deviance, then comics, then rock music, now video games.
It's the same progression of scapegoats as always.
No evidence that it's causative.
Some correlation with violent people being drawn to them.
unidentified
Interesting.
ian crossland
That's a good point.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
Maybe you're just a violent person, Ian.
ian crossland
Oh, you know me so well, Tim.
luke rudkowski
But no one really wants to talk about the root cause of violence.
That's the thing.
It's always scapegoated, so you guys made a very, very good point.
ian crossland
What do you think it is?
tim pool
Well, it's demons, obviously.
They enter your soul at night.
ian crossland
It's probably demons.
tim pool
And then you wake up like...
luke rudkowski
Social economic conditions, fatherless homes, you know, there's things to really argue here.
There's things that we should really have a conversation about but that's never going to happen because it's all something else.
ian crossland
I feel like Trump was a good example of people that didn't have like strong relations with their father would would look for like a strong male figure and he just offered something.
So the first time that they'd seen that and that's why he has a lot of like young Well, Jordan Peterson was giving purpose and responsibility to young men.
tim pool
And that's why they were drawn to him.
He said, find the heaviest thing you can carry and carry it.
So I think one of the big factors in today's day and age is the millennial generation and much of Gen Z, you have the leftists who have found purpose in social justice.
And then you had a bunch of not super politically active people with no purpose.
And then they found someone like Jordan Peterson, the left, realizing that their opportunity to radicalize and indoctrinate was being stopped by someone like Peterson, called him a Nazi and all right and all that stuff, when he was literally just like a self-help psychologist, being like, you should work on yourself and be responsible.
And they're like, no!
Don't teach them to be responsible and have purpose in their lives.
We need to tell them the only path to purpose is through us.
So he was a threat.
ian crossland
He studied, like, the Gulag Archipelago and the rise of totalitarianism.
He's like, I've studied the Nazis.
I know where they come from.
And they're like, he's a Nazi.
tim pool
It's like, what is going on?
We have a very important super chat.
Cassetto says, everyone is always focused on the idea that video games make people violent, but I'm over here in the corner trying to choose the dialogue option that doesn't upset the NPC.
Yeah, always plays a good guy.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's a really good point.
The first playthrough.
tim pool
No, you know, but yes, there's a funny meme where it was like, now that I've beaten the game through as a good guy in my first playthrough, I'm going to play as evil.
And then it shows like, I can't remember which game it was, but there was someone asked, like, do you like my work of art?
It's taken me a long time and I've worked very hard on it.
You can choose.
It's the worst thing I've ever seen or like, it's terrible.
And then it showed a picture of a, like a guy gaming, crying, like pressing the button.
Like he couldn't, he couldn't insult the NPC.
It hurt his feelings.
That's funny.
Let's see.
We'll move down here a little bit.
Daniel Bundrick says the children of the revolution always eat their parents.
unidentified
Oof.
tim pool
We got a lot of super chats.
We got too many.
unidentified
It's because we got heated.
matt braynard
You can tell the chronological order because it's mirroring how our conversation.
Then we got to video game discussion.
ian crossland
It's funny when you watch the live chat along with videos, some people are like behind and they'll be like, so you'll see the chat, they'll be like, ah, Ian's an idiot.
unidentified
And they'll be like, oh, I can't wait to see what Ian said that makes him an idiot.
tim pool
Daniel Maxwell says, what Ian is saying was also said about Dungeons and Dragons before video games became common.
In both cases, the only people who actually do engage in violence as a result were those who did not have a firm grasp on reality.
Yeah, remember the D&D scare?
It was like in the 80s?
They were claiming it was like demonic and Magic the Gathering had to change their art because religious groups were offended by it.
Let's see what we got here.
Akapot says, Be fair to Ian, Tim.
Don't harm your team dynamic for arguing micro versus macro.
Ian wasn't arguing on the macro level.
Listen to his insights better, bro.
We can all do this better.
It's what we need most right now.
unidentified
Well, there you go.
tim pool
Jack Gilcry says the military, according to ex-trainers, use realistic video training simulators in part to desensitize soldiers to killing.
Immersion in realistic killing may not cause violence but it makes it easier.
Interesting.
Lizard says, Hi Tim, I'm a 19-year-old libertarian girl, very grateful for your show.
My coworkers talk about causing harm to Trump supporters at rallies like it's nothing.
Crazy times.
I'd love to see you have Kyle Kulinski and or Jordan Peterson on.
I would love to have either of those individuals on the challenge with someone like Kyle's.
We can't tell someone, hey, don't do your show, come do our show.
They're gonna be like, but I have to do my show.
And it's like, yeah, I get it.
ian crossland
I was thinking we should get Jordan and his wife when we get him.
Or Mikayla might come too.
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
Well, maybe we could do a weekend special with Kyle.
Does he do shows on the weekend?
I don't know.
I wouldn't mind working extra on a Saturday or Sunday.
I'm down.
tim pool
I would like to take Kyle to a range.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, let's do that.
That'd be fun.
tim pool
He's a cool dude.
He really is.
Kyle and Crystal Ball are really awesome.
There are a lot of people on the left and a lot of people on the right who are both grifters.
I like to give credit where credit is due, and I think Crystal Ball and Kyle are rad.
matt braynard
Crystal was great until she banned me from her show.
In the middle of the show.
In the middle of the show she texted her producer and he came over and said, you're out of here.
luke rudkowski
What happened?
matt braynard
Well, I made a joke and I didn't mean it as an insult.
I didn't mean as an insult per se because in many circles this is a compliment and was the reason that, you know, the type of person people said we should nominate for president of the Republican Party.
I made a joke about Beto O'Rourke being a beta.
What show?
Crystal and Cigar?
Beta that's that's what I said and so they kicked you off in middle of the show kicked me off
unidentified
And I was invited many time crystal ball Crystal, but what crystal and cigar or what yeah really
tim pool
yeah?
matt braynard
I was on the show a few times their producer loved me his easy trip
I went in and then they all came on me like after I made that comment
I was like well I tell you why it's cuz he ran away from the police and
Didn't accept responsibility for it's the cursing everywhere like immature child and and running around the
skateboard because I think beta males Basically an immature guy right this might take on it
although beta male was supposed to be like the Savior right?
tim pool
I'll see it was good at skateboarding I'm sure he was great at it.
Cause I can do a switch blunt.
matt braynard
I've seen your, I've seen your, uh, whatever it is you guys ride on the ramp.
I've seen the ramp.
No, but I said that.
And then the other guest jumped on me for like promoting toxic masculinity.
And she got, it's basically like I used an ethnic slur.
It was her reaction.
And we went to commercial break, texted a producer, very upset.
Producer came over and said, Hey, you're out of here.
And then they never brought me back.
So I've been banned from the show for that.
tim pool
They wouldn't just let you be like, Hey, don't do that again.
matt braynard
Well, no, I'm like, I would tell you this is why I use those words and you disagree.
Okay, that's cool.
But nope.
tim pool
It was like a bummer.
matt braynard
Yeah.
ian crossland
Yeah.
I like the alpha beta gamma talk with like gamma.
Well, I think of myself as an Omega.
I was like, what is an Omega?
Cause I'm the Omega man.
tim pool
You're not an Omega.
ian crossland
Omegas are like, Omega.
They don't really, they've kind of given up on being the Alpha.
tim pool
Omega's are black, no, Omega's are black billed individuals who are short and have physical defects.
ian crossland
I was getting, I was getting all sorts of different descriptions of what the Omega was.
tim pool
An Alpha male is a confident leader.
Betas are those that surround themselves, that surround the Alpha.
So people think Beta means weak, it doesn't.
The Beta is Lieutenant.
ian crossland
It's like a subservient personality.
matt braynard
No, no, no, that's not true.
An alpha male would be Trump.
tim pool
And then Dad Scavino would be a beta.
matt braynard
That's not an insult.
political speak that's what the world of politic beta male consultants was met it's like
tim pool
the opposite of a trump an alpha male would be trump and then dad's cabina would be a beta
that's not an insult it means that he's the he's the second in command or he's one of trump's
matt braynard
lieutenants that definitions i get i get it then you have omega males
tim pool
omega males are the hunchbacked backed like you know
don't look at me i don't hear and they can't socially interact starting to identify with that okay
go on yeah so people think beta means we can
know, ineffectual or whatever.
The beta is the guy who's standing behind, there's like a tall guy in a bar going like, huh, you're so dumb, I'm tough, and then his friend goes, yeah, you tell him boss, then high-fives him.
ian crossland
The Omega's the outcasts.
tim pool
Right.
ian crossland
That's me, I think.
tim pool
The betas are high-fiving the alphas, the alpha goads.
ian crossland
I've been so jaded by the situation that I'm just here to play.
tim pool
But beta, you're right.
In colloquial speak, it's come to represent, you know, like weak Well, not necessarily weak, but just non-threatening.
matt braynard
And for a while, I was sitting at a political conference and this consultant to Mike Pence sat next to me and was talking about the fact that, you know, in 2016, we really need to nominate a beta male because that's who the women really want.
And that's sort of the context I used it with on Crystal Balls.
Well, to go back to that, because and apparently that caused a big controversy.
And it's like the top six of my Google search results are, you know, the controversy.
And I got death threats from that.
So, you know, and I'm not saying that I complain about it.
I always sort of wince when I see somebody in the public complaining about death threats.
First of all, if somebody's going to kill you, they're not going to threaten you first.
Secondly, everybody who sticks their neck out even a little bit gets all kinds of crazy stuff, but it just solicits so much of a reaction that it got.
ian crossland
Yeah, I was searching all this stuff a couple nights ago and was noticing how it was giving me the descriptions of the identity politics definitions of it all.
Beta on beta is a woman and two women in a beta woman.
And it was giving me all the transsexual people type descriptions about it all.
I had no idea that it was involved in the LGBTQ community.
matt braynard
Yeah, me neither.
In fact, you know, the funniest thing about them kicking me off for calling him a beta male and, you know, making fun of his name, the alliteration, is that all of their supporters got on Twitter and said, no, you're the beta male.
It's like, oh, okay.
All right.
I guess it's whatever.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, sure.
Whatever.
That's a bummer, though.
I guess nobody's perfect, but I've been on with Crystal and Cigar.
ian crossland
Sounds like we gotta have you and Crystal on the show.
matt braynard
I was there before Cigar.
It was Buck, who is a great guy.
tim pool
Oh, that's right.
That was a while ago.
matt braynard
Buck Sexton.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, it would be fun to have one of these lefty personalities come and learn about firearms.
matt braynard
Just don't call anyone a beta male, okay?
tim pool
I mean, you know what's a real bummer is that we're always more than willing to have any lefty personality on the show.
But I think too many people are just grifters.
You know what I mean?
That their whole game is just riling up the people behind them.
They got their base behind them cheering and clapping and they're gonna say whatever they gotta say to get that attention.
So, you know, we've had on a few personalities that were, like, libertarian, left libertarian a little bit, and we've gotten thumbs down and people in the comments, like, yelling at us and stuff, and I'm like, I don't care, dude.
Like, I'm not, we're not making an echo chamber for you.
We're trying to get multiple voices on the show.
We'll argue.
Ian and I just argued.
We argue, you know what I mean?
It's like, we're not gonna just say what you want to hear.
If you want that, there's a bunch of other places you can go get it, so.
Speaking of that, SeasOFay says, Tim, please put shoe on head.
lydia smith
Put your shoe on your head.
tim pool
Oh, put shoe on head!
Oh, I thought he was saying have shoe on head on the show.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Uh, I don't have any shoes up here.
I'm actually barefoot right now.
Well, you can- you can get it.
luke rudkowski
There you go.
tim pool
I'll put your nasty shoe.
You're walking around with dog poop everywhere with your little- I clean up the dog poop.
Luke's dog's name is Fumble Bump, by the way.
unidentified
No!
luke rudkowski
Atlas.
tim pool
No, because what happened was we were in the basement and Luke had treats and was trying to call her over, but you were calling her Freedom.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And then I just made up a gibberish word while shaking Swedish gummies and yelled, Fumble Bump.
And then she like looked left and right.
I kept yelling and Luke's like, Freedom.
And then she ran to me.
So I'm like, done.
Nobody named her Atlas.
luke rudkowski
He keeps calling her Fumble Bump all the time.
tim pool
Fumble Bump.
luke rudkowski
Whatever.
unidentified
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
Keep calling her that.
I'm like, you're going to make her like crazy.
tim pool
No, it's just going to be a command that only I can use with your dog.
And then when I'm, like, breaking into your trailer at night, she's growling, I'll go, and then she'll go happy, and like, oh, I know what that means.
That means my friend is here.
luke rudkowski
Why are you breaking into my trailer?
He did this once, by the way.
tim pool
With Alex Jones.
Yeah, Luke was sleeping, and Alex pulled up, and I was like, I had the camera, and I was like, yeah, that's good.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, me and Alex have a turbulent history, so it was weird.
I either meditate or take a nap before the show.
I was taking a nap and I wake up with Alex Jones professing his love for me, telling me that we were in a relationship before.
I'm like, dude, we were about to fight last time we talked about 10 years ago, and now you're here in my room.
tim pool
I'm gonna put that footage up.
I have the footage.
I just gotta get it for my GoPro.
unidentified
And then you'll exploit me to the fullest degree.
luke rudkowski
But at least I get to sell my t-shirts.
At thebestpoliticalshirts.com E.W.
tim pool
says, Tim, new Timcast Premium member here.
Evan W., when you have a chance, contact me.
I'd like to intro you to a data center to put your vids on for better throughput.
Got good ideas for you.
We're actually upgrading everything, so we might be solving a lot of these problems, but feel free to email members at timcast.com.
ian crossland
Dude, Ben set up the system where I've got dual wires coming into my room.
One can be a server, Yeah.
A whole server network.
tim pool
We can't handle a server, though.
It would be great if we had our own servers, but you need a ridiculous amount of bandwidth for that that we do not have.
Yeah.
A lot of people requesting stuff and all that whatnot.
IronGhost1982 says, what race class specs do you guys play in WoW?
Well, I haven't played.
I played Shadowlands a little bit when it came out, and I kind of just rolled my eyes like, eh.
You know, there's only so much I can do with the story.
And, uh, but I worked really hard to get a Void Elf.
And now I have a Void Elf Rogue.
Because, um... It's been too long since I played.
But the Void Elf has the teleport ability.
ian crossland
I don't know the Void Elf new race.
tim pool
Yeah, it's from, um, I think Legion.
You gotta complete, maybe it's not, I think it's Legion.
Maybe I'm wrong.
You have to complete a whole bunch of quests.
It's been a while since I played.
It was like a year ago.
And then once you finally complete everything, you unlock this special race where they have an ability where they throw a rift.
And then you can blink, like teleport to the rift.
So I love doing PvP with my rogue, and then I'll like slice and dice somebody up, and then once I kill one of their dudes and they're about to kill me, I just throw the rift and then go the other direction.
ian crossland
Tim is pure rogue, by the way.
We played last year.
He was human rogue.
I think that guy was a human.
No, wow.
You were a human rogue?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, I unlocked Void Elf Rogue and then made a Void Elf Rogue.
ian crossland
Mine's a Night Elf Druid.
That's my go-to.
Which is so Chris, that's funny.
tim pool
Rogue is just the best.
You can walk around, be free.
ian crossland
But a rogue, a druid can turn into a cat and play like a rogue.
tim pool
Not a, stealth is not as good.
Stealth is not as good.
ian crossland
No, it's not.
tim pool
And, uh, you know.
ian crossland
Druid can heal, though.
tim pool
That's true.
Druids, druids are pretty fun.
Because they can do everything.
We got a big ol' super chat here.
SH says, these people saying games desensitize you to violence against others are just wrong.
The amount of problems we soldiers face after killing sticks with us for a long time and causes many problems from drinking to suicide.
Nothing helps us deal with taking another life.
Yeah, man.
Life is not... this stuff is... yeah, it's bad.
The DoubleX54 says, hey Mac, I'm in the Northern VA area.
How do I volunteer for your organization when you guys are up here?
matt braynard
Uh, well, we're getting started there.
We have a volunteer form on our site where you can tell us what you're capable of doing, what you have to offer.
Look at america.org slash volunteer.
So sign up, please.
tim pool
Alright, let's see.
We'll just grab a couple more Super Chats.
Gavin Roth says, I think y'all were talking about USS Cole bombing back in 2000 in Yemen.
matt braynard
Correct.
tim pool
Suicide bombers disguised themselves as a small merchant ship and detonated right next to the Cole.
That bombing completely changed security posture for the Navy.
Wow, crazy.
Alex Flores says, why no Ben Shapiro?
Ben Shapiro, you've been on his Sunday special.
So, in order to do that, and this is before we had good internet, I had to record, we had a low quality audio call.
And then I recorded with a camera hard to the camera, took the memory card out, and had it driven up three hours away, and then uploaded from a high-speed source to a shared server.
They could download the footage, and then they synchronized it with the call and their footage on their end.
It was not easy.
And all these lefties were like, you did a Skype with Ben Shapiro.
And I'm like, first of all, that was his show, not our show.
We don't do phone calls or Skype calls for a variety of reasons.
But we welcome people to come here.
And I tell people, listen, did you realize that Nobody has any screens.
I've got one screen, and then no one else has, like, everyone's got their own phones and their own laptops.
We just, we're not set up for it, and I'll tell you this, a lot of other big podcasts won't do it either.
There are some, who I'm not going to call out, but they did it a few times, and then, like, I've talked to a lot of these people, and they're like, wow, that was a mistake.
It, like, doesn't work.
The engagement goes way down.
People aren't happy with it.
They complain about it.
There are people who just want to see, you know, internet blood sports.
We don't do that.
We like having conversations in person.
All right, let's see.
Someone mentioned that Donald.Win is gone.
But it's now, I believe, was it Patriots?
lydia smith
Patriots.Win.
tim pool
Yeah, Patriots.Win.
It's the same thing.
They just changed the name, I guess, because Donald Trump's not president anymore.
So that makes sense.
All right, we'll do just one more.
Crazy Eye says, M4's are full auto now.
Burst stamped out and has auto now.
Was in National Guard.
Got out in 2019.
Interesting.
Well, everybody, thank you all so much for hanging out.
Make sure you smash the like button, subscribe to the notification bell.
Go to TimCast.com, become a member because we are going to have a bonus segment.
But Matt, do you want to mention your organization again and anything people need to know about how to help and get involved?
unidentified
Sure.
matt braynard
I mean, we're looking for volunteers.
We're also looking for donors.
Everything helps that you can do.
Right on.
And Luke, I hear you have t-shirts.
in, we'll find a way to put you to work as a grassroots lobbyist or helping us register
new voters.
So it's lookaheadamerica.org.
tim pool
Right on.
And Luke, I hear you have t-shirts.
luke rudkowski
I think it's fair to say I have the best political shirts because I own the domain thebestpoliticalshirts.com.
See what I did there?
You can also find me on LukeWeAreChange on Twitter and Instagram.
So yeah, check me out there.
Thanks.
tim pool
When you go to The Best Political Shirts, it jumps you to the We Are Change store.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, check out the bikinis.
Check out the socks.
tim pool
Defund the media.
I tweeted that.
Did you steal that from me?
luke rudkowski
I steal everything.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Everything I see, I just gobble it up.
I'm like, that's a good shirt idea.
He liberated it.
I've been on this venture.
YouTube literally turned me into a t-shirt vendor.
I mean, getting out the messaging, I probably got more views on my shirts than my videos because of how many different shirts I had to curate to offset me losing my YouTube revenue.
Because I used to survive off making money off the YouTube ads.
unidentified
What is this?
tim pool
Do people buy this Trump face sweater?
luke rudkowski
Yes.
Yeah, I do.
I wear it all the time.
unidentified
It's very obnoxious and it's very, uh, you know, it's, it's peculiar, but, uh, it's, you know, I want to make, uh, a line of clothing with little pictures of animals on it.
Yeah.
We're going to, I think we've already do that.
tim pool
I know, and I'm gonna do it too.
And I'm not gonna do the political... See the I Am A Gorilla shirt that we have?
If you wanna get your exclusive I Am A Gorilla t-shirt, go to TimCast.com, click shop, boom, it's right there.
And good news, YouTube has finally integrated it into the system, so we are waiting for it to be reviewed.
It's funny, it's literally just a gorilla.
It says I Am A Gorilla, but YouTube's like, we gotta make sure it's safe!
ian crossland
It is a big-brained gorilla, by the way.
unidentified
He's got a big frontal lobe.
tim pool
Smart feller.
And so that's why we're going to do the tinfoil hat one soon.
Maybe next week.
We got it ready to go and everything.
And that's going to be special edition which will only sell for probably one week from like a Thursday to Thursday thing.
Because people were mentioning their paychecks or whatever on Friday.
But, uh, yeah, go to TimCast.com, become a member.
We have a bonus segment coming up, but, uh, Ian, you want to mention?
ian crossland
Yeah, two things.
One, I don't think druids are better than rogues.
I think rogues are probably the best.
Might even be the best class in the game, but I like the versatility.
Personally, I like the versatility of the druid.
Uh, number two is I'm Ian Crossland.
You can follow me online at Twitter, Mines, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram.
And, uh, later on tonight, I'm going to be gaming with Adam Kregler on twitch.tv slash Ian Crossland.
Come follow me there and check it out.
We're going to be playing Red Dead Redemption 2.
Very excited to roll the posse.
And thanks for having me, Tim.
lydia smith
Well, it'll be fun.
unidentified
Right on.
lydia smith
Yeah, so I'm kind of, like, refereeing this wild ride over here.
I'm sorry, guys.
It's crazy, but you know you love it.
I'm Sour Patch Lids on Twitter, L-Y-D-S, and I am real Sour Patch Lids on Mines and Gab and Instagram.
Is that right?
Something like that.
You can find me on all those places.
tim pool
You can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, Mines, at TimCast.
Check out my other YouTube channels, YouTube.com slash TimCast, YouTube.com slash TimCastNews.
We will be back tomorrow at 8 p.m.
live, but don't forget, we're actually gonna have some bonus segments.
I believe we might even have more than one.
We'll see how things play out, but that's at TimCast.com.
Check it out and become a member, and if you do run into any issues, go to email members at TimCast.com.
My apologies, we're getting everything sorted, but other than that, we will see you in the bonus segment or tomorrow at 8 p.m.
live.
Thanks for hanging out.
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