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Timcast IRL - Leftists Already Drawing Biden As Jesus, Media Is Nuts w/ Jack Murphy
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Today, Joe Biden was sworn in as president.
tim pool
Kamala Harris was sworn in as Vice President.
And that's exactly what I expected over the past several months, that it was going to be a rather uneventful inauguration.
And I guess to the extent that there was 25,000 National Guard occupying D.C.
and demanding people's papers to prove they had legitimate business in the area, it was relatively uneventful.
And already, well actually, literally while it was happening, the media was putting out some of the most insane propaganda.
There was one tweet from one journalist, I won't name, who was like, as soon as Lady Gaga began singing, the clouds broke and sunlight beamed through onto the Capitol building, and then someone commented like, God shows us his grace or something, and I'm just like...
It's okay, sure.
My favorite right now is Jacobin Magazine drawing Joe Biden as Jesus, with a bunch of people worshipping him!
Amazing!
We'll get to all of this.
Already, Quartz has written a story.
What happens if Joe Biden dies?
So that's happening.
And we'll just we'll just talk a bit about what's going on.
I think the scary thing out of all of this is there's a new poll from YouGov showing that Americans feel Americans are their biggest threat.
And we are now seeing from the establishment media calls for spy agencies to target White supremacy.
And you know what that means in the context of these woke outlets?
It means, like, regular Americans who aren't woke.
And that's probably where we're gonna end up going, so we'll jump into all that stuff.
And joining us today is Mr. Jack Murphy.
jack murphy
Hey everybody, good to be back.
It is Every Other Wednesday, and I'm back, Jack Murphy Live.
How are ya?
tim pool
So, uh, Jack, you wanna just, quick, quick, quick bio, just run down?
jack murphy
Yeah, sure.
You can find me on Twitter at Jack Murphy Live.
I wrote a book, Democrats are Deplorable.
You can get that.
Got to come up with a new one now, though.
Not sure what that's going to be about.
Deplorable out.
Deplorable out.
tim pool
We quit.
Republicans suck, too.
jack murphy
Right.
You know, there's a lot of change happening, a lot of transitions happening.
But this is still the same.
Happy to be back, Tim.
Thanks for having me.
tim pool
Of course, Luperdkowski's hanging out.
luke rudkowski
Well, I got to shoot and squat today, so today was a great day.
Everything else?
jack murphy
Boom.
luke rudkowski
Not so great.
I also started a new website today that is called... Are you ready for this?
tim pool
What is it?
luke rudkowski
TheBestPoliticalShirts.com.
unidentified
Ah, there you go!
luke rudkowski
So now, when I promote my shirts and then you promote your shirts, I'm gonna look at you, Tim, and be like, Tim, but is it TheBestPoliticalShirts.com?
tim pool
My shirts aren't political.
unidentified
It's a gorilla.
luke rudkowski
A gorilla and then me blowing bubbles out of a pipe.
tim pool
It's true, yeah.
Yeah, they're not political at all.
luke rudkowski
I still like them.
I'm going to wear them as well.
tim pool
Well, I do have one shirt that's about censorship, and it's like the pyramid being toppled over.
luke rudkowski
I ordered a gorilla shirt, didn't I?
Maybe, potentially.
tim pool
We've got a couple more.
We've got the tinfoil special edition coming soon.
We've just got to figure out where we're going to launch it.
Probably going to try and find a different company for this special release that will be listed on the site for a limited time.
But it's a gorilla with a tinfoil hat.
We got Ian hanging out.
ian crossland
There was a request to run that limited-offer shirt for at least a week, because people get paid on Friday, so we'll make sure we give everyone a chance.
tim pool
We'll do Thursday to Thursday.
jack murphy
Do it on the 1st and the 15th.
ian crossland
Heck yeah, man!
I, as well as you, share a common ancestor with gorillas.
So let's celebrate.
jack murphy
I was thinking back for a second.
lydia smith
Way back.
ian crossland
How did you know about... Our father.
jack murphy
He was a gorilla.
tim pool
Yes, your dad.
ian crossland
My dad's brother.
tim pool
Of course, we got Sire Patch.
Let's present all of them.
lydia smith
I am here in the corner.
jack murphy
What up, lads?
tim pool
Yeah, prematurely, unfortunately.
So, man, you know, we talk about Americans being scared of other Americans.
Right now, there's news that in Portland, Antifa is smashing up the DNC headquarters.
So that's entirely predictable.
And we're going to go through all that.
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unidentified
Right.
Yes.
tim pool
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jack murphy
It's what people have come to expect, baby.
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But let's jump into the first story, and we'll talk about Joe Biden being president, and this glorious image from Jacobin magazine.
Now, I'll tell you what I find particularly fascinating about this, is Jacobin is like socialist, Like their DSA, many are, there's like communism.
It's, they get their name from the French revolution and they've put a cover out and it's Joe Biden as Jesus with the sun behind his head, literally imagery of Jesus.
And there are people below him, like looking up and cheering and worshiping him.
And there's angels filming and interviewing him.
What are these people thinking?
ian crossland
This smacks of the French Revolution.
What's his name's party?
tim pool
Robespierre?
ian crossland
Yeah, Robespierre's party was the Jacobins.
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but he actually wanted to get rid of Christianity and he portrayed himself as a deity and came down from the mountain.
He wanted to create a new religion around himself.
I don't know if they don't know that, or if this is a sick joke, or if they really are...
tim pool
Maybe that's why they're doing it.
luke rudkowski
I mean, politicians are not supposed to be worshipped.
They are servants.
They're supposed to be serving the people.
And I don't care if it's Joe Biden, QAnon, Donald Trump.
Stop with this obsession with putting people above yourself and putting all the responsibilities and all your failures and all your hopes into one person and take some gosh darn personal responsibility for yourself, you mother... We're supposed to be saying... Too early.
tim pool
We're supposed to be doing this.
We're supposed to be sitting in chairs going...
Joseph.
Joseph, come here.
Clean up this mess.
We've hired you to take care of these problems.
Instead, they create the problems and they do whatever they want.
They enrich themselves.
They're not solving the problems.
I think we were talking about this before.
The difference between a statesman and what we currently have with crony politicians.
Someone who actually gets elected and says, I'm going to go in and focus on solving these problems for you.
And then what, we have like one or two who actually do.
But when you have a media ecosystem that is acting like Joe Biden is literally Jesus, then I don't see how we actually solve problems.
Just to clarify my point, Joe Biden could do really horrible things and they don't care.
But it's funny because they say the same thing about, you know, Donald Trump.
ian crossland
I'm kind of at a place where it's like, just let them have their fun.
But I don't know.
What were you going to say, Jack?
jack murphy
I was just going to say, how are you going to criticize Jesus?
lydia smith
Yeah, come on, man.
jack murphy
Setting him up to be untouchable.
And then I'm also reminded and I'm about ready to do this thing I hate where I say, what about?
I'm also reminded about this summer when they were tearing down statues of Abraham Lincoln, where Lincoln's standing there and he's got his hand out and there's a slave on his knees breaking out of his chains and standing up a joy like rapture's face up to up to Abraham Lincoln. This cover with Biden as Jesus
hovering above a black family in masks looking up at him like he's God, that is no different. Well
tim pool
it is. I mean, I guess technically the statue of Abraham Lincoln was paid for and built, like
organized by former slaves who were saying thank you to Lincoln. Now the leftists today got
that statue removed.
They actually removed it.
It was in Boston.
I can't believe it.
unidentified
They took it down.
jack murphy
There's one in D.C.
they're trying to take down too.
Same statue.
tim pool
They're taking it down because they're like, it shows that black people were, at one point, slaves.
And so they want to erase that.
They don't want that idea to exist.
So they got rid of it.
It worked.
This is people worshiping Jesus Biden who hasn't done anything.
What does he, what did he do?
ian crossland
He slammed Tara Reid up against the wall.
tim pool
Yeah, he defeated the devil.
There you go.
The evil Trump.
ian crossland
He may have, uh, performed what would they call it?
Sexual aggressive acts against Tara Reid and children in his workplace.
tim pool
You know, it's really hard because I feel like the things they threw at Trump were preemptive defensive techniques.
Like you better accuse Trump of it before it comes at us.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Because the Democrats are swimming in the corruption and the swamp.
And so they're like, let's make sure everybody thinks Trump is corrupt for like the emoluments clause, for instance.
Joe Biden sending his kid to China on Air Force Two.
A bit different.
ian crossland
It's like we live in the empire from Star Wars and it's like people just want to just chill out and just accept it.
You just want to be a citizen, man.
You just want to reap the benefits of the empire controlling all these planets and countries or whatever.
tim pool
Well, so this is the thing.
I was mentioning this earlier.
I tweeted, I often wondered what pro-empire propaganda would look like in the Star Wars universe.
And it's because we have the entirety of DC locked down by the National Guard, many of whom have no idea why they're there.
In order to get in, you've got to show your papers proving you have legitimate business.
Why?
Because of the storming of the Capitol?
I don't think we need 25,000 troops locking down the entire Capitol.
jack murphy
No, as Adam Townsend said on Twitter, it's about imprinting history on people's brains.
So that in 20, 30, 40, 50 years, they just look back and they're like, oh, things must have been terrible.
They had to have 25,000 troops in the Capitol.
No one will remember the nuance.
I've lived in D.C.
for 30 years.
I've been through a number of inaugurations.
I have never once heard of incoming traffic shut down over the bridges coming into the city.
The area that they blocked off is like I estimated it's like 20 times the size of anything that
had ever been blocked off before.
It was just mind boggling.
unidentified
Troops marching troops marching down the streets.
luke rudkowski
There's a famous meme going around right now with all the soldiers and the motorcade going
through and it says we defeated fascism.
And again, those images are extremely visceral for a reason.
And we have to ask ourselves, why did we do this?
Why did we lock down the capital of the United States under a military occupation when there was no protest?
I'm hearing a lot of reports of no protesters at all being seen anywhere near even the vicinity of Washington D.C.
protesting Biden.
tim pool
It's the opposite.
Every single, like, Trump forum was like, don't go.
Don't go to D.C.
People were saying, like, don't do it, don't go.
luke rudkowski
But on the mainstream media, we heard nonstop, 24-7, breaking news coverage of threat assessments.
It's going to get bad.
It's going to get ugly.
It's going to get bloody and dangerous.
And what happened?
jack murphy
It was such a winning move, though, because now all they can say is, like, there was a threat, we responded to the threat, and we prevented it from happening.
ian crossland
Oh, yeah.
Because we put the troops there.
jack murphy
Yeah, it's a winning move no matter what.
tim pool
And think about the media narrative right now and how, say, Wikipedia works.
They just take whatever op-ed, and I'm serious, they take op-eds, and someone will say there was an insurrection.
It's all about framing.
So I'm sure if you now look at what the historians are writing, they're going to say there was an attempted insurrection by white supremacist terrorists.
And then in 50 years, that's what they want everyone.
You know, history is written by the victors.
They want everyone to look back at this day and say, Trump's army of white supremacists stormed the Capitol, you know, planning to kill and kidnap members.
And so the troops were deployed to protect the city, to prevent another insurrection.
It was a trying time.
luke rudkowski
And they did it, and they successfully were able to fight it back.
And it's only going to get worse from here, as we're seeing very extreme language from individuals like John Brennan, the former CIA director that literally lied under oath about so many different things, whether spying or the Steele dossier.
He came out today on the mainstream media, and he said the Biden intelligence organizations are Moving in, quote, laser-like fashion to uncover the Trump insurgency and the people who harbored it, including religious extremists, authoritarians, fascists, bigots, nativists, and even libertarians.
tim pool
This was libertarians?
luke rudkowski
He said yes.
John Brennan said that Biden's intelligence agencies are moving in laser-like fashion against libertarians.
ian crossland
That's a political party.
tim pool
Yes!
luke rudkowski
That's why I tweeted the video out, because I couldn't believe it, because I saw people talking about it.
But we have the former CIA director, you know, the epitome of the deep state, talking about Biden going after libertarians now because of everything that happened.
tim pool
The nativist thing was particularly interesting to me.
They're making it now that if you oppose immigration in any way, you're an IST of some sort.
And they're making nativists like racists.
So I was listening, I didn't do a 1pm segment today because I was watching, I had to watch the inauguration, you know, and it was happening at the same time I normally, you know, produce and record.
And I remember when Joe Biden mentioned, you know, rejecting the hate of nativists.
And I was like, it's a really interesting choice of words.
Now people who are like, you're native to the country, you get preferential treatment is wrong.
It's an IST and they're going to use it like racist.
jack murphy
I would, uh, so wait, wait, native to the country means American.
tim pool
Yes.
jack murphy
Right.
unidentified
Right.
jack murphy
So if you're an American and believe that that's important and a good thing.
tim pool
YouTube already made the rule a year ago that if you disparage non-citizens for being not citizens, you will be banned.
luke rudkowski
But most importantly, he went on and he said all of these things, nativists, libertarians, are a threat to democracy and are insidious.
Those are his exact inflammatory words that are extremely reckless, extremely dangerous, but also most importantly, extremely untrue.
When we talk about libertarians, what are they guilty of?
Not liking the government?
Being unsuccessful in politics?
Having cruddy candidates?
Having some ideas about individual sovereignty and liberty?
What are they guilty of?
What do they do?
jack murphy
How do you lump a libertarian in with a fascist?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, when everything... Again, this is another thing we need to realize here.
This whole Democratic Party was built as a large hammer hitting nails.
So if you're a hammer, everything's going to start looking like nails for you because that's your single duty.
That's the main kind of apparatus.
That's how the Democratic Party gained power in 2020.
Let's be honest here.
They took down a lot of people and that's how they were able to step on them and get a step above everybody else.
And they know that works.
They know that this is going to be implemented even more before this, and it doesn't take a genius to see that the writing is on the wall that we're going to see an expansion of this moving forward.
jack murphy
Yeah, I think it's important to point out, too, that this process started in the 60s when the Democrats made a very conscious decision to make themselves the party of everybody but the white guy.
And to go against the white guys in the late 60s, 1968.
If you want to learn more about this, check out Matt Stoller's book, Goliath.
There's a whole big detailed section about the deliberate course of action that the Democrats took.
And so the nail is white dudes and the hammer is what now?
The state and all the non-white dudes behind them.
luke rudkowski
The state, the CIA, the FBI.
tim pool
And that's why when Alex was here, he said, I am a gorilla.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
We can all agree with that.
We can all because the idea of that book was you know the discussion we were having was
That the the establishment wants you to live in the wilderness
They want you to live you know like we used to hundreds of years ago, and that was the general concept
You know to be completely honest. I think people would do well to get out into the wild
But the idea was like destroying modern civilization and technology because we're destructive and
It reminds me of The Matrix, when Agent Smith is like, you know, humans are not animals.
They're viruses.
You know, I'm not going to do the whole speech.
But that's basically what he says, because animals, he says, build a natural equilibrium with their environment, whereas humans just reproduce, move around, and destroy like a virus.
That's the same idea from, you know, my understanding from that book.
And so the idea is to get humans back into eco, you know, stability with the natural environment.
And then that requires the average person to give up this way of life.
So now I think what we're seeing, especially with the Great Reset, especially with the, you know, the Democratic politicians who have defied their own lockdown orders, the idea is if the rich people are to maintain their lifestyles, everyone else has to sacrifice but them.
So that's what they want.
That's where we're headed.
ian crossland
All the climate change stuff, you know, whatever that's where we'll go Yeah, I read Ishmael am I supposed to talk about that right now It was like it was like 12 years ago Ishmael's the book where the gorilla comes from these the gorillas called Ishmael that Alex Mentioned and in the book they talk about takers and leavers Humans have kind of divided into these tribes of types of people one is the takers and that there's so many takers right now in the world and And the leavers, we've basically desecrated.
I think they refer to the Native Americans as leavers in a lot of ways.
Protecting the land, you know.
Although they were massacring buffalo and each other and eating each other.
I mean, it was pretty vicious.
lydia smith
Yeah, it was wild.
ian crossland
But the idea is to become leavers and to give up our taking ways.
And that, I think, has a lot of merit.
jack murphy
That's the difference between being a producer and a consumer, I think.
ian crossland
Yeah, leave the world a better place than how you found it.
tim pool
The problem is, I don't trust the people who are pushing this kind of garbage.
And now we're getting it tenfold with Joe Biden.
He's going in, you know, Paris Climate Agreement, that kind of stuff.
Critical race theory.
lydia smith
Even if you do think it's a good idea, you can really look askance at the people who are pushing it.
People like, I don't know, Bill Gates or whoever.
jack murphy
Bill Gates pushing it while at the same time acquiring every last piece of available farmland in America.
luke rudkowski
He's the largest farm owner in all of the United States.
lydia smith
I doubt that.
luke rudkowski
Wow.
Mr. Monsanto, the man who bankrolled pretty much Monsanto with all the stock purchases, is now in control of the United States food supply in many ways.
jack murphy
But now, if you had all that money and you knew that we were going to print up trillions of dollars, what is what is the best thing to buy in that case?
luke rudkowski
Beachfront property, because, of course, there's climate change and we have to worry about the rising ocean tides as Bill Gates literally bought oceanfront property.
jack murphy
So that tells you everything that we need to know about raw land and farmland over time have tracked money supply pretty, pretty closely.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
jack murphy
So that's a good place to be.
He must think that there's a lot of inflation.
ian crossland
Oh, yeah.
jack murphy
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
I wonder why.
tim pool
So here was the here was here was the joke I mentioned.
So we have this from on Twitter from Bellagio.
Is that a pronounciation?
jack murphy
Oh, Bellagio.
tim pool
It says he tweeted up and to the right.
And it's a picture of the M1 money stock skyrocketing.
Yep.
And y'all know how does that mean?
Money printer go burr.
jack murphy
Yep.
It's going burr for sure.
tim pool
No, the money printer is going.
I moved away from the mic because I don't want to blow your eardrums out.
That's the sound I'm making.
You look at the M1 Money Stock and it's just... I'm imagining a man screaming at the top of his lungs.
unidentified
Whoa, Jack's freaking out.
tim pool
I don't know, though.
People don't have money, right?
So some people have mentioned maybe there wasn't enough money in circulation.
And one of the issues is if people aren't working at all because of the COVID lockdown, and they're desperate for any amount of money, then we might actually see deflation.
The wealth will concentrate into the hands of the ultra-rich, the politicians, the elites, and they'll hoard it.
Then by holding onto it and strangling out the working people, a normal person who's like, I need 15 bucks an hour, might finally just break and say, give me 10.
I don't care.
I have nothing.
And then you can get the same amount of labor from that person for cheaper because there's no money for them.
jack murphy
Not if the Democrats get their way.
You won't be allowed to hire anybody for less than $15 an hour all across the country.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
But think about it.
What they're doing with money printing and that at the same time is tricking people into thinking they're getting more when they're not.
jack murphy
Correct.
tim pool
So with the mass printing of money, the people then saying, oh, I'll get 15 bucks an hour.
They're going to have the same buying power.
Their lives will not improve.
jack murphy
If they even can get a job, even if they're valued at $10 or $12 an hour in terms of their utility.
luke rudkowski
Well, this is the thing.
The job question is really, really big because when we have the lower skilled jobs being taken by immigrants, when we have the higher paid jobs being taken because of these visas that are going to be reintroduced, what jobs are left?
None of them.
And you would think, you know, failing wages, huge health care costs, and a collapsing economy would be something worth noting and talking about.
But sadly, this is something that hasn't been mentioned and talked about.
I mean, we're talking about it, but not many people are, which is even more scary.
tim pool
You know what's really crazy about this, too?
Take a look.
We'll pull back up the M1 money stock.
The real expansion of the money supply, it started after the financial crisis.
So when you look at this major sharp uptick, look at the angle from 2008 until 2020 before the major spike, and it was still rapidly increasing.
jack murphy
Right.
tim pool
So, I don't know exactly what we can expect.
Some people have said the M1 money supply doesn't track perfectly with how the economy functions or anything like that.
But I think you print all this money, then you get Joe Biden coming out saying, everyone gets a raise of $15 an hour.
And then there's enough money in circulation to balance out that wage increase while not giving anyone an increase in buying power.
ian crossland
Yeah, the argument is that you would increase the GDP-to-debt ratio, which is what happened after World War II.
They printed a ton of money at World War II, and then instead of paying back the debt, they just grew the GDP, the gross domestic product, so rapidly that the debt became negligible, and they never ended up paying it back.
jack murphy
But that's a healthy use of debt.
If you can borrow money to grow your business, your enterprise, whatever, in such a way that it dwarfs the size of the debt, that's a healthy, that's actually a healthy way.
ian crossland
And I've seen economists make the argument that that's what's going to happen now, but it doesn't seem like our GDP is going to be able to expand that quickly and that we even have, we don't have the industry that we had in 1945.
How?
luke rudkowski
With all the lockdowns and all the factories in China, how?
jack murphy
Asset price inflation.
tim pool
But that's why there are concerns about deflation.
If people don't work, they don't have money, period.
And they'll do anything, and they'll get desperate, and it can be like, whereas a normal person might be a middle manager at a paper company or a cracker factory, and they make, you know, $65,000 a year, you take away that job, their savings is drying up, and then you come to them and say, I'll give you a buck to shine my shoe, they'll be like, thank you, sir.
luke rudkowski
Well, everything is becoming more and more digital, so the likelihood of that happening is less, in my opinion.
But also, on the other hand, we are going through a national coin shortage.
And then there is a huge kind of larger psychological...
push to make regular fiat notes, something dirty, something that transmits diseases,
something that we should stay away from. This push has been kind of happening for a while.
It's kind of been put in overdrive with COVID. So there's a big, big push to promote a cashless
society, which is another big agenda, which could manipulate and control people very effectively.
tim pool
And that's what I've been saying about Bitcoin for a long time.
That's why I'm surprised I didn't buy Bitcoin sooner.
Because even when Bitcoin was at like 50 bucks, I was telling people that it was the perfect currency for the international elites, who want to be able to track every exchange of currency around the world.
It's a better technology, it's trackable, and you can secretly seize control very easily.
It's called the 51% attack.
And of course, the United States has enough money to do it.
I should have bought right then, because that's kind of obvious.
There was so much in the conspiracy world about a one-world currency.
I remember back in the 2000s, people were talking about the Amero.
Do you remember that, Luke?
luke rudkowski
Yes, the North American.
I actually talked to the Mexican president about that, and he was Vicente Fox, and he was openly pushing for that.
And I interviewed him after he was president.
Now he's pushing for drug legalization.
Very interesting guy, but Vicente Foch was like, yes, we need a North American Union.
We need one currency between Canada, Mexico, and the United States.
Of course, a lot of the Democrats promoted this larger idea because they also promoted the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
They also promoted NAFTA.
All of these larger deals, which of course help out multinational corporations and screw over the blue-collar worker.
So imagine, imagine if Mexico Well, they like being able to hire people in jurisdictions that don't have human rights laws.
exploitation would actually happen well by the big multinational powers they
tim pool
like being able to hire people in jurisdictions that don't have human
rights laws I remember when I first visited Canada I was talking to a friend
of mine I think it's like 14 16 years ago or so it wasn't like that wasn't
like for every one US dollar got seven Canadian Like the exchange rate was pretty wild.
And so I was talking to a friend of mine who said that they loved it.
Because Americans would jump the border and then go party and just spend money like crazy and it was great, they could pay their rent very easily.
It was harder to buy international products, but their base goods, their food, their shelter was very easily covered by Americans who would come and spend.
Then when everything started to normalize, that stopped happening.
And it became harder for a lot of people in the service industry to make good money because they didn't have the wealthy Americans coming and spending all their cash.
And this was part of a conversation about economic normalization I was having with a friend.
So when it comes to, and we've seen things like this in Europe, when it comes to trying to make everybody on the same standard, it's very, very difficult to do if it's done with a finger-snap government proposal and they do it overnight.
But that's why Bitcoin and cryptocurrency is so interesting.
With this constant escalation of the currency that's driving up and up and up, it's getting everyone to be like, I want to do it.
It's building confidence in it as a store of value.
So people are buying in, they're buying other crypto, and it is creating a one-world cashless society.
We're on that path through cryptocurrency.
Is that a good thing?
luke rudkowski
Um, it could be used either way.
We've seen a lot of foreign governments get into the Bitcoin game, whether it's China or even more recently, Pakistan, deciding that they're going to be officially mining with Pakistani government money.
So it could go in a way where it's used as the kind of one world currency that's a cashless grid total control lack of privacy coin initiative or it could be used on the other hand to promote privacy with privacy coins like Monero that are out there Zcash.
that do try to hide transactions so people could still keep their privacy which i think is important it's a double-edged sword it's just like the internet and it all depends on the user base what do you do with it what do you incentivize if you incentivize you know corporatist globalist coins that work with the big banks well obviously those will prosper if you incentivize privacy coins that prioritize your liberty and freedom, well of course those
will prosper. So right now we're in the deciding phase of this larger cryptocurrency
revolution that's unfolding right now that is still yet to be determined if it's going to be really good
or really bad for personal freedom.
tim pool
Look at social media networks. It was really good for a while and then started to get really really
And then the government realized, or I should say, political establishment realized, oh no, we've lost control by giving the plebs the ability to communicate with each other.
Quick, take it back!
luke rudkowski
But we wouldn't be here if it wasn't for that little opening.
There was a little opening, right?
And that opening has allowed me to have a job.
Independent media organization allowed you to have a job.
allowed other people to have a voice.
I don't know, Jack, about your personal kind of history, but there was a moment where everything was... it was like the Wild West.
It was amazing.
It was beautiful.
Anything you saw was organic.
It was real.
It was genuine.
It wasn't corporate.
It wasn't fake.
It wasn't talking points.
It wasn't regurgitation of Disney bullcrap shoved in your face.
jack murphy
And it gave rise to me, you, and Alex Jones and Do you really think that the Wild West era is over in terms of how do we engage with this universal connectivity?
luke rudkowski
It's closing in very severely, especially with controlled algorithms, especially with demonetization, especially with the larger programming that's going behind a lot of these social media companies that are trying to shape people's mind and to program them into a way that benefits Yeah.
their their and their elite.
jack murphy
If anything that I've gotten from reading Balaji and talking to people about a theory and whatever else is
that we're just in the opening stages of this Internet thing.
And as soon as we crack the decentralization issue, we'll be back into complete wild.
luke rudkowski
I agree with you, but that's a major issue.
jack murphy
I don't know.
luke rudkowski
How do we how do we how do we push decentralization to a point
where not everyone is dependent on Google when they control all the information highways,
when they control the major infrastructure of the Internet?
unidentified
That's the big question.
tim pool
Google, though, it's that they all work in concert.
Yeah. Look at parlor.
Amazon says, OK, we'll ban you.
Google says we'll take you out of the app store.
Parler can't operate without a substantial web hosting, web services, because of how much data is processed by people posting and downloading at the same time.
I think someone posted an image where Parler said it was like 300 gigabits a second for like, right.
And so I mean, that's that's huge.
jack murphy
Yeah.
tim pool
Who's gonna be able to provide that other than Amazon?
He's gonna have to try and find some, you know, data centers and things like that.
Makes it tough.
But I'll just say right now, man, the Wild West has been over for a long time.
The Wild West ended well before this.
The Wild West ended in what, like, the end of the 2000s?
When political establishment, like, political elites in the political establishment started to realize the power, what they could get from it?
You look back to the era of Hamsterdance simultaneously existing with Goatsy and people sending you these things like... I shouldn't say... Don't look up Goatsy, by the way.
luke rudkowski
Don't do that.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And there were a bunch of crazy things.
There was a period of just anything goes.
Napster, Kazaa, LimeWire, downloading anything.
Those days are gone.
I mean, you still have the Pirate Bay.
I believe they're still- they're operating.
But that was the Wild West.
Then, the government came in, and it started to solidify everything, and it became more like decentralized cities and villages under the strict rule of, like, the sheriff.
Today, the internet is basically a big city.
You've got little mom-and-pop shops that pop up sometimes, and the city, you know, health inspector shows up to shut you down when you say naughty words.
jack murphy
Yeah.
I have faith in human ingenuity, and I believe that there will be a new Wild West era in this world of connectivity that we're talking about.
ian crossland
There will.
luke rudkowski
I hope so.
ian crossland
Bitrex, though, you were mentioning the privacy coins, Monero, Zcash, and Dash particularly.
Bitrex stopped servicing them at the beginning of January, they announced it.
luke rudkowski
For American customers, I believe.
ian crossland
And they won't reveal why they stopped servicing them, but that is highly suggested.
tim pool
National security letters?
ian crossland
Yeah, who knows what's coming.
luke rudkowski
Government compensations?
Yeah, it's very difficult to track users and their money flow, so a lot of Americans have been told that they can't have those coins.
They can't use them.
jack murphy
Total speculation and just wild ass question.
What's stopping the federal government from just buying up all the Bitcoin?
tim pool
Nothing.
And that's why I just said a 51% attack is very, very easy.
All you have to do to control the network is own 51% of the nodes.
And that can be easily accomplished by a nation state, especially the United States.
What's the total market cap right now?
Bitcoin is of all crypto is like 900 billion or something.
ian crossland
Yeah, I'll give you the exact number.
tim pool
We just cranked out four trillion dollars.
If the US wanted to, or if the Federal Reserve wanted to, they would just print the fiat, buy up as much as possible, and then not tell anyone.
luke rudkowski
They would make a lot of anti-government libertarians very rich in the process.
tim pool
And they would, and they don't care.
Listen, all of these anti-government libertarian types, the ANCAPs, the anarchists, and the conspiracy theorists were screaming Get Bitcoin!
You gotta stop it!
And they bought into a totally public infrastructure where you can track every transaction.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, and people need to realize that because a lot of people don't even understand that basic fact.
Everything you do with Bitcoin, there's a public ledger.
There's public transactions that anyone and everyone could see all the money coming in and all the money coming out.
People fail to realize that.
unidentified
But also very interesting, Chris, Crypto is the wrong word.
jack murphy
It makes it sound secret.
luke rudkowski
Well, that's just Bitcoin.
But there are other kind of smaller coins out there that do focus on privacy and mesh networks and all these other stuff.
But very interestingly, when the U.S.
government took down the Silk Road, when they took down Ross Ulbricht, they had a huge amount of Bitcoin that they seized from that personal website.
And then they started auctioning it off.
They started selling it to the general public back to them.
So, yeah, you're shaking your head there.
Yeah, the FBI, I think it was an FBI agent responsible for the Ross Obrecht case was found to actually confiscate and steal and personally use a lot of the Bitcoin, which put the trial in question because it proved that the officers involved weren't doing the right thing.
So if they weren't doing the right thing with that, Ross Ulbricht and his mom and his legal team were arguing saying, well, maybe we should throw the case out because there's clear government misdoing in this case.
tim pool
We got it, we got it.
This is the perfect segue.
And now... Donald Trump did not pardon anybody worth pardoning.
Okay, hold on, let me slow down.
I think some people got pardoned who I'm cool with.
There were regular people who committed crimes 50 years ago or 30 years ago, served 20 years, and they had no opportunity for parole, and so Trump pardons or commutes their sentences.
Lil Wayne, I'm actually totally fine with that pardon.
What was it?
He had a drug charge and a gun charge?
ian crossland
No, it was a gun charge.
tim pool
Gun charge?
ian crossland
Did he have a drug charge?
lydia smith
I don't know.
tim pool
Yeah, he was a felon with a gun.
I think that's fine.
But he pardoned Steve Bannon over the build the wall thing, but not the veteran, the triple amputee veteran who was also a part of that.
He pardoned the corrupt mayor of Detroit.
He didn't pardon Ross Ulbricht or Snowden or Reality Winner or Assange.
luke rudkowski
Or Joe Exotic!
lydia smith
He didn't even pardon Joe Exotic!
tim pool
Joe Exotic said he was too gay and too innocent to get a pardon from Trump.
He actually did.
That's what he said.
jack murphy
This was a chance for him to go out with some sort of... I don't know.
Pride isn't the right word.
ian crossland
Integrity?
jack murphy
Integrity.
Doing the right thing.
Doing the right thing.
And he did.
Now look, were there probably threats made to him if he did this?
Then the Senate might confirm the impeachment or whatever.
I don't even know.
Maybe they said that if you don't do this, then we won't come after you later.
Either way, dude, it was an opportunity that was missed, and it will leave a salty, salty taste.
luke rudkowski
It's not an opportunity that was missed.
It's a slap in the face to anyone paying any attention.
Steve Bannon?
Steve Bannon was literally accused of stealing money from Trump supporters.
He gets a pardon?
ian crossland
He gets accused.
luke rudkowski
Accused.
tim pool
No, what happened with Steve Bannon was that people who donated to the Build the Wall Fund
were told that, I believe the guy's name was Colfage, would not receive a salary.
Later on, they indirectly were paying him money through, I think, Bannon, and that was fraud.
luke rudkowski
We still don't know exactly what happened.
I said he was accused of doing this.
I just told you.
tim pool
That's what happened.
luke rudkowski
There still was no court proceeding yet.
It's going to happen.
We're going to find out more details about what happened.
tim pool
I'll ask you, Jack.
Do you think any Trump supporter who donated money to build the wall cares that Cole Fage was getting a salary?
jack murphy
No.
tim pool
None?
None.
I agree.
So Bannon getting the pardon, I say, yeah, sure, fine.
But not the other dudes involved?
Trump supporters were happy to give them money.
luke rudkowski
I think it's ridiculous they went after him for this. I still think there's more to the case that we're gonna find
out We don't know yet because the court proceeding hasn't
happened. But look at the other people Kodak black I mean, he's a rapper that literally made a music video
depicting Trump supporters as the Klan and Personally choking out a Trump supporter with a make
America great again hat so he gets a pardon Israeli spies that were involved in real espionage get a
pardon mercenaries accused of war crimes
Get a pardon?
I mean, are you kidding me?
And then we have Assange, Snowden, Ulbricht, all of them just shunned, ignored, and essentially what Donald Trump did is he put the final nails in the coffin for Julian Assange.
He is never going to get out.
He might as well just have executed him.
It was Donald Trump who said in the beginning, I love WikiLeaks.
Then when he became president, he got pressed on it.
He said, oh, I don't know who Julian Assange is.
And now we're getting information that it was him and his administration that led to Julian Assange's arrest.
He knowingly, according to some sources, was getting pushed by many individuals to pardon Assange.
This was widely popular amongst his base.
And now he just totally ignored him and Julian Assange will rot in jail for the rest of his life.
unidentified
Listen.
luke rudkowski
He essentially signed the execution order on him, which is absolutely disgusting and unforgivable.
tim pool
The Q people are freaking out right now because, you know, Trump left the White House.
It's over.
And if there was a conspiracy that I'd be willing to believe at this point is that Trump was deep state.
ian crossland
Trump's a scumbag and he's a liar.
tim pool
If, listen, listen, I don't really think Trump was part of the establishment elites,
but I certainly think they scared him enough to where he didn't, he wouldn't, he wouldn't step
out of line. You know, you know what, you know, I think it was, I think once Trump realized he lost,
when he saw what was going on and they went to him, they, they probably told him,
they will come after you if you, if you free Assange.
She was probably like, okay, what can I do?
And they said, rappers, some friends, just, you know, hook your buddies up and then go away and we'll leave you alone.
They won't leave him alone.
They don't want him to run ever again.
I think they're gonna go after him and try to crucify the guy, and he probably thought as long as he played it safe, they'd leave him alone, but they won't.
luke rudkowski
He must be extremely stupid if he thinks that's going to happen because he got played over that $2,000 by Mitch McConnell like just a little child, smacked around and totally lied to about that situation.
So what made him think that Mitch McConnell was going to tell him the truth after just screwing him about the major promise of $2,000?
It would be absolutely naive An idiotic of him to do that.
But it's not only the pardons that were pathetic.
Also, his declassifications were utterly useless.
He succumbed to every classification request by the FBI.
His last order was rescinding an order allowing politicians to become lobbyists quicker.
Are you kidding me?
That's his legacy?
unidentified
Let's go deeper on that.
tim pool
He surrendered.
He surrendered.
That's what it is.
Trump got on his knee to the deep state, to Biden, and said, spare me and let me live.
I'm sorry.
luke rudkowski
I'm sorry.
And they're not going to let him live.
tim pool
Of course they're not.
jack murphy
I don't know.
I don't know about that.
They're the precedent of prosecuting a former president.
No, I just I'm saying that they we don't do that, right?
tim pool
Oh, they're gonna love to these these if they do that though, but if that was then that opens the gates for that to happen Sure, but look at the state level zealous far-left prosecutors have already been ramping this up.
luke rudkowski
Yes, you have names not saying You have Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton literally talking about crazy conspiracy theories about Vladimir Putin being on the phone with Donald Trump during the Capitol siege.
There's going to be a major overhaul of people going after Donald Trump and his supporters, which he never stood up for.
jack murphy
You nailed it here, though.
luke rudkowski
And if he did what you said he did to save his own butt, it's extremely selfish, and it's not going to work, and it's extremely idiotic, in my opinion.
Sorry, go ahead.
jack murphy
No, I was interrupting you, kind sir.
No, they're going to go after the people.
unidentified
Yes.
jack murphy
The people more than they're going to go after him.
They're going to go after anybody that has any whiff of any dissident of anything having to do with being MAGA or even just white or even just being a dude.
It's all coming.
tim pool
They can't allow Trump to happen again.
They've been saying it since he got elected.
They're saying it now.
They've been calling for truth and reconciliation.
They've been calling for deprogramming and the media will lie about it.
Donald Trump bent the knee and begged to be spared and then walked out doing very little, in fact, making things worse.
ian crossland
Yeah, he did more than just bend the knee.
So he rescinded an executive order that said that for five years after someone serves in, I don't know what it is, a political office, they can't be a lobbyist.
Who signed that executive order?
Do you guys know?
He signed the executive order and then he unsigned it?
jack murphy
That's what makes it terrible.
ian crossland
The day before he leaves so that he and his friends can become lobbyists in the next five years.
tim pool
He surrendered to the crony establishment on the last day.
He said, I won't do anything the people have requested.
Tucker Carlson went on TV and said, pardon Julian Assange.
Veritas put out the video showing that Julian Assange informed the deep state, I'm sorry, the State Department, Freudian slip.
ian crossland
It wasn't, it's true.
tim pool
Veritas put out this video where Julian Assange called the State Department saying, someone is going to leak these documents.
We don't have control over this.
We want to let you know what's happening.
Proving that there was never an intent from Wikileaks to publish unredacted information to get people hurt.
It wasn't them.
It was somebody else.
You had conservatives and Trump supporters stepping up, begging, begging Trump, do this one thing.
And what did Trump do?
The corrupt former mayor of Detroit?
The Blackwater folks.
you mentioned to a strangle a Trump supporter on video.
unidentified
The Blackwater folks.
tim pool
And then he rescinded his own executive order to allow the swamp to walk right back in.
luke rudkowski
Yep, Israeli spies accused of actual espionage and actually dealing with legal ramifications
from it.
I mean, and then what is Assange accused of?
Espionage, right?
He's not even an American citizen.
That's the biggest take here.
And if the United States is able to get away with shutting down a man, throwing him in jail, driving him crazy, and essentially locking him up for the rest of his life, that is an extremely Dangerous president set that of course is going to be used and abused by the next president.
By the next person in charge that of course now has this huge power to take anyone in the world for publishing information that they don't like and saying that's it.
You're going to go for the rest of your life.
We're throwing the key away and not even looking back.
tim pool
You've got to watch V for Vendetta.
It's just such a good movie.
jack murphy
I've been on the show, what, 10, 12 times now?
Every single time we talk about it and I still haven't seen it.
I'm going to watch it next.
tim pool
There's the scene where the chancellor says, I want them to know why they need us.
And then more importantly, when V storms the broadcast center and displays the message saying there's something terribly wrong with this country.
If you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, meet me in front of the old Bailey on the 5th of November in one year.
And they said, he's a terrorist.
Right?
You see what they do?
They want to make sure you're the boogeyman.
Here's the fascinating thing to all these lefties who call themselves the Resistance.
You were never the Resistance.
You were the cronies, you were the lackeys of the establishment elites who were trying to stop Trump who was kicking the door in.
And the easiest way to understand that is, since when is the Resistance supported by every major multinational corporation and the establishment political party?
Now, what's going to happen is you want to know the real resistances?
The people that are that are libertarians, like like Luke mentioned, the people who believe in individual freedoms, who believe in the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, who will now be called nativist and white supremacist.
And we have the story from the Daily Beast from just a couple of days ago.
Can U.S.
spy agencies stop white terror?
Other countries have domestic spy agency agencies to fight extremists at home.
Does America need one, too?
No.
No, we already have many.
We have the NSA spying on everybody as it is, and we have constitutional rights.
Boy, would they love to destroy that Constitution.
I'm sure each and every one of these people crosses their fingers when they hold up their hand and then swear an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution.
jack murphy
What we saw with the corporate alignment from BLM, Antifa, and the uniparty establishment and those people that call themselves the resistance who went to Yale and work in Walshwood, just, you know, upper middle white class.
They actually are.
foot soldiers for a corporate fascist state.
When the government and the corporations act in unison to curtail human rights and to silence people, to assassinate them effectively, to shun them, to exile them, to shut down their businesses, when they work together, that's called fascism.
Right.
We are living in a corporate fascist state.
And the people who are the resistance were actually the foot soldiers of the corporate fascist state.
tim pool
You know what I love about this left that claims it's not really fascism because it's not nationalistic.
Was it nationalistic for Germany to invade Poland or France?
jack murphy
Well, you know, it was to expand the homeland.
tim pool
Right.
So when the U.S.
has military bases all over the world, and now we have the public and private lucrative merger to oppress people and seize their rights, you call that fascism?
Do you think that the Qatar-Turkey pipeline in Syria to get natural gas into Europe is not about the U.S.
expanding its footprint and its power?
Just like any of these other fascistic states that were expanding and trying to take land, you have the U.S., which has continually tried to do that.
And it's funny, I just really can't understand how so many leftists fell for that ploy.
Look, Donald Trump was not perfect.
He was particularly imperfect.
And all he really was, in my opinion, was a disruptor.
He held things back for a little bit, he slowed things down.
There were some things that I liked he did, particularly in the past year of his presidency, and some things I really did not like that he was doing in the first couple of years.
But trying to get our troops out of the Middle East, obvious, all the things I talk about, critical race theory, all this stuff, was him holding it back but not being able to stop it.
And you had these leftists who claim to oppose the establishment, licking the boots at first chance, making pictures of Joe Biden as Jesus.
Have these people lost their minds?
jack murphy
Did they have them in the first place?
tim pool
No, the Democrats have always been, you know, the establishment Democrats, the traditional establishment left have always been loving the establishment and the federal agencies and just fellating the news organizations who have lied over and over and over again about everything, notably the Iraq war.
And then they all complain about it when it can get them power.
Oh, the war is bad.
Vote for Obama.
And then as soon as Obama gets in, see you later.
We're satisfied.
More war, please.
And then we got, what, seven new wars under Obama?
luke rudkowski
Yep, and more worse coming under the Biden presidency, but again, Donald Trump didn't do himself any favors.
He was a reality TV star.
I never put my full hope into him, and a lot of his supporters feel absolutely screwed over, and I think rightfully so.
I think he was in it for himself.
A lot of people always accused me of having Trump derangement syndrome.
People called me no better than CNN when I curiousized him.
But I remember, ever since, I remember making a video inside of Goa, India.
I remember this perfectly because I saw Donald Trump sit down with Henry Kissinger even before Inauguration Day.
And he said how great of a statesman, how great of a friend Henry Kissinger is.
And I remember making a video saying, hey guys, Even though Donald Trump is promising to bring the troops home, even though he's promising to expose the Federal Reserve and talk about how Saudi Arabia was involved in 9-11, watch out here because the apparatuses of the state are very powerful and they could influence him in very negative ways.
And what did we have?
We had that exact epitome of someone who, you know, sadly, I mean, look at the way he ended his presidency.
tim pool
I'm going to reveal the real conspiracy here right now.
The truth to all of you.
Well, Donald Trump was clearly a part of the deep state.
Bitcoin is clearly the one world global currency.
How could the government curtail a growing force of this conspiratorial, ANCAP, libertarian, even libertarian left who oppose the government, who hate it and think it's the enemy?
How do you solve this?
And they noticed a particularly loud voice.
Alex Jones.
Alex Jones, the guy leading the charge, constantly talking about all the bad things the corporations and the government was doing.
And they figured it out.
They needed Alex Jones to prop them up.
How do you convince the conspiracy right to actually support the deep state?
Donald Trump.
So Donald Trump goes on InfoWars and Alex endorses him and says he's the real deal and he trusts him and all that and then Trump gets in and he plays the role of opposition and then does very little and then leaves without actually changing anything.
luke rudkowski
Well that's a... hold on before we get into that.
tim pool
I'm not serious.
luke rudkowski
I know, I know.
That's a theory that you're kind of throwing out there.
tim pool
I'm not intentionally throwing out a theory.
I'm being a bit facetious.
The point I'm making is you think about how these people like Alex Jones actually endorsed Donald Trump, and I don't necessarily agree that Donald Trump was just in it for himself.
I think Trump lost and surrendered.
luke rudkowski
Dave Chappelle released a skit that I talked about in one of my videos today, and he said, You know, I really like how poor white people said that Donald Trump is going to fight for them in the White House.
And he said, those poor dumb people don't understand that he's not going to fight for them.
He's fighting for me.
And he was he was absolutely right.
Dave Chappelle, one of the richest people.
And that's what happened.
tim pool
Do you see Dave Chappelle did that stand up special on Netflix?
And then he did it at the end of it after the crisis, like a Q&A.
And someone asked him, what are you going to do now that Donald, you know, what are you going to do if Donald Trump gets reelected?
And Dave goes, Probably a tax break.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
Well, corporations did.
People got their taxes back to normal.
No, they came back to normal.
He gave a tax break that essentially came back to normal.
tim pool
It expired the moment he was out of office.
luke rudkowski
Exactly.
But to talk about your little theory that you kind of speculated about a little bit, the mainstream media and government were losing a lot of legitimacy before Donald Trump.
Yeah, so there's something to think about.
Sorry, Jack, you want to say something?
jack murphy
I'm all good.
I got to take a drink real quick.
Occupy.
So let's look.
Everybody's having mixed emotions on the right right now.
It's conflicted.
You know, nobody wants to see Joe Biden and the whole freaking, you know, critical race left posse take over the whole country and all the institutions yet again.
And it's easy to start pointing fingers at Trump and to blame game and remember all the things that were distasteful about him and made it hard to be a public supporter of his.
But I just want to go back 2012, 13, 14.
That is when the intersectionality stuff started to really take off.
That is when the the rape hoax stuff really started to take off.
That's when the UVA rape thing happened.
If you look at Google search also for like intersectionality, it's like da-da-da-da-da-da-da in the 2011.
Straight up and racism straight up around that time period.
And things were just starting to escalate and get out of control and the war on men and the war on white guys and all these horrible.
luke rudkowski
Well, right after Occupy Wall Street, just just interjecting here very quickly.
You see how many times racism was used in the New York Times.
Right after Occupy Wall Street around 2012, the term skyrocketed.
tim pool
There's a chart put out by, I think Zach Goldberg is his name.
It is from LexisNexis showing all these different terms.
Whiteness, social justice, racism, you know, privilege, all, hockey stick, straight up.
And we talk about the comic.
When Occupy Wall Street, you got libertarians, you know, Luke as like a Ron Paul libertarian sitting down there with a bunch of lefty socialists.
luke rudkowski
I didn't even like Ron Paul.
I hate all politicians, but I was akin to him because I believed in some of his policies.
tim pool
What I mean is, you were down there at Occupy Wall Street and there was a bunch of like lefty hippie guys, and they were like, uh-oh, this is bad.
This is actual people with pitchforks, you know, rising up.
Introduce identity politics and then what happens is the white people who are part of that get shunned and insulted and get angry and leave and Then many of the people went voted for Donald Trump.
jack murphy
No, well, I mean even I had nothing to do with Occupy I went down to Occupy DC just to check it out man.
That was quite a scene down there I'll never forget the smells and the overflowing toilet.
Oh god, it was horrible down there McPherson Square.
I used to work down there It was crazy, but just to give back I Well, people are struggling.
We're struggling with processing what happened and weighing pros and cons.
And was it worth it?
Did I make the right decision?
Somebody like me, I paid a pretty high social and political and economic and professional price for being a public Trump supporter.
And you wonder, was it worth it?
And if we just go back to 2012, 13, 14, 15, we start to remember that the war on men is
starting to ramp up and the rape culture stuff and the intersectionality and the racism and
the anti-white and all this madness was just flowing and Clockboy and Ahmed and all this
crazy stuff was happening.
And then it's like, well, we can't have Hillary, cannot have Hillary.
So if I go back to 2016 today, I'm voting for Hillary again.
There's no question about it.
And I'm voting for Trump over all 17 of the other GOP candidates who were in the primaries of 2016.
I have no regrets about that decision.
unidentified
Right, right, right, right.
jack murphy
But I have extreme disappointment with many of the things that have happened in this administration.
luke rudkowski
But if you're comparing anything to Hillary Clinton, that's an extremely low bar to compare yourself to.
jack murphy
I know, but that was the choice.
tim pool
So I'll say this too, that there are a lot of people that are all of a sudden like, you know, I won't support Trump.
I voted for Trump just a couple of months ago and I stand by my decision to do so.
Especially looking at Joe Biden now signing, he's going to sign the equity.
He's not just reversing Trump's critical race theory executive order, he's ramping it up.
jack murphy
Yeah.
1776 Commission?
tim pool
Gone.
jack murphy
The ban on CRT trainings?
Gone.
But Christopher Ruffo, a kick-ass guy from Washington, West Coast, he has put together a legal coalition that is going to fight CRT and all of our institutions.
He's really getting things done, Chris.
I've had him on the show, on my show, at Jack Murphy Live on YouTube a couple times.
Check it out.
tim pool
I know the solution.
jack murphy
What's that?
tim pool
The Patriot Party.
jack murphy
The Patriot Party.
tim pool
No, I don't know if the Patriot Party is a solution, but a third party is a solution.
It is.
For one simple reason, we need to force the two parties to try and build a coalition to win majorities.
So, right now, the Republicans are just, if we win the majority, we won, and we can do whatever we want.
And then the Democrats say the exact same thing.
What if neither had the majority without at least, let's say, Trump comes out and says, here's what I want you to do.
Go vote for this candidate for this party.
And they narrowly just win.
and they only get maybe like seats
but the democrats republicans are are split fairly even so whoever convinces
the patriot party to support them wins the majority and gets that passed well
that's what we need something like that it's too bad it's not the libertarian party but they're
kinda wacky and that guy pulled his clothes off or whatever well there is an opportunity
luke rudkowski
here because the democrats are now looking for revenge
The Republicans are pretty much yellow bellies and they're the Democrats 10 years before the Democrats.
So there is an opportunity to provide a service that says, hey, let's try to make people's lives better.
Something that, of course, no one is really focusing on.
There's no really big political party.
There's really no big movement about Making lives for Americans better.
No one's talking about that.
So there is a chance there is an opportunity that I think could coalesce a lot of people against a lot of the bullcrap happening right now by the establishment.
jack murphy
I mean, I know we're just brainstorming here, but if you're not affiliated with the party that's in power and you don't caucus with them, you don't get committee appointments, etc.
So, like, this idea of, like, a real viable third party in our current system, I don't know.
There can be factions.
There can be, like, the Tea Party-esque faction within Republicans.
There can be the Blue Dog Democrats.
tim pool
There's got to be something that works in between.
Yeah, maybe Blue Dog Democrats.
They're mostly gone, and I think people like Joe Manchin... I don't think Joe Manchin will get re-elected.
jack murphy
No.
tim pool
He's a Democrat in West Virginia, and I really can't see West Virginia re-electing him at this point.
But we need something in between.
And, you know, just like, you know, Jeff Andrews switching parties isn't a solution.
It was a huge victory for the right and the left was, you know, Democrats were angry.
But I, there's got to be, you know what? I don't know. I'll tell you this. I got no idea.
I'll tell you one thing though. The Republicans don't deserve your vote. The Republicans don't.
jack murphy
No, they don't.
tim pool
The Democrats are going to keep pushing and doing their crazy thing.
I think it was Jesse Kelly who tweeted, the left won the culture war because they were the only one fighting it.
Yes.
And Mitch McConnell is just walking, you know, he's just the turtle going like, well, you know, gotta go slow, and then does nothing.
Stops Trump.
For too long, Republicans have been the party of, well, hold on there, mister.
Why don't you slow down?
And that's it.
Not actually fighting for anything.
Not actually standing up and saying, here's what we want to do.
When they put in all these judges and Supreme Court justices, all they're really saying is, slow down there, mister.
They're not, he's not putting any, Trump didn't get any judges who are like, I'm going to overhaul Second Amendment rights and guarantee it for everybody.
I'm gonna, you know, it's not gonna happen.
The people who came in are gonna maintain the status quo, which slowly drifts left more and more and more.
That's the future.
Unless, unless the people who want to fight for certain things take their votes away from Republicans and create a real hurdle for them.
A real hurdle for them.
ian crossland
I mean, I see the Unity Party.
Kanye West really wants to be president.
He's super famous.
Someone like that.
That's what Donald Trump was.
So, someone like Kanye.
If Trump got behind Kanye... I'd vote for Kanye at this point.
Yeah, me too.
tim pool
You know why?
The dude is a rambling mess.
You guys listen to the Kanye and Joe Rogan?
ian crossland
But he's not.
If you really listen to him, he makes a lot of sense.
tim pool
I tried listening to the Joe Rogan thing with Kanye, and I was just like, what?
luke rudkowski
I think we had enough of reality TV stars, my personal opinion, but I think maybe the bigger kind of change could happen is if people just, you know, hypothetically not saying this is true or even advocating for this, but Maybe if people just don't vote at all, or don't participate in the system at all.
That could also be a decoupling that could happen organically without any violence, without any fighting.
unidentified
But what would the end result really be?
tim pool
People saying... Because I've talked about it before too, like a vote of no confidence.
That was my... You know, I stopped voting after Obama, and people would tell me I had to vote, and I said no, because when I vote, I'm telling you that I find your system to be legitimate.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
In that this two-party system of, you know, a turd sandwich and a giant douche is acceptable to me.
It's not, so I'm not gonna vote. Or I'll vote for a third party, or I'll vote for myself.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
tim pool
Because I'm the only one I trust to get the job done, so I just write my name in and then I know I just won't vote.
jack murphy
And just hope 75 other million people didn't put your name in too.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, just hope that for some reason I write my name in and put it in and then
everyone forgets when election day is and the mail gets jammed up and they're like,
we only got one vote out of 330 million people.
ian crossland
In 2016, kind of as a joke, I was like, you know what, I'm gonna write my own name in.
And a bunch of people wrote my name in.
tim pool
And the next thing I knew, I was City Comptroller.
I'm like, what's going on?
ian crossland
So like, you really could do something.
jack murphy
Look, I think the problem is the question.
Why are we asking what the government can do for us?
Only thing I want from the government is to stop doing the things it's doing.
Just stop.
tim pool
Can we, you know what, maybe we need to get a bill passed where you can vote no one.
Like, and if, imagine this, imagine you got like Congress, right?
And you go, you're looking at your ballot.
It's like, you know, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Green Party.
No one should sit in this seat.
I'd vote for no one.
And then if no one gets the majority of the votes, then there is no rep for that area.
ian crossland
It's not like it's like a really easy quest, but a bunch of people are complaining and arguing about how to get it done.
And it's like, dude, make Kanye president.
It's the only way.
jack murphy
Well, on that tip, so speaking of Balaji and other folks and the mayor of Miami and people talking about startup founders, they're saying the first thing you should do is build an audience.
If you're going to start a business, start a company like in Silicon Valley, build an audience.
If you're the mayor of Miami, build a social media presence.
If you're a jurisdictional leader, build a social media presence so you can use it as a way to recruit people, attract talent and get your agenda accomplished.
I if this is the trend, even for just corporations and for political leaders, elected city officials and mayors, the next president is going to come with a huge social media following.
So that that is where you have to start to look like the next.
luke rudkowski
Who's got the big social media social media?
tim pool
So I want to I got I want to pull this story up.
Who will be our next president?
It has not even been a day and the media is already salivating at the thought of Joe Biden dying.
jack murphy
Well, that's why, that's why he was Jesus.
unidentified
Dead.
jack murphy
And ascent.
That's why he was ascending.
They want him dead.
unidentified
Ascending.
tim pool
Okay.
Well, hold on.
Quartz writes, writes the story.
What happens if Joe Biden dies in office?
Seriously, guys, it's not even been a day.
The dude just got in.
But we knew that was the game the whole time.
They wanted Kamala Harris to be the nominee, and Tulsi Gabbard dropped a gravity bomb and wiped out her campaign.
So Joe Biden was their only hope.
and then they had that funny play where all the Democrats drop out and endorse Joe Biden.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That was the only choice.
Then Joe Biden was able to beat Bernie Sanders.
And so as soon as it happens, I'm willing to bet they wrote this story before.
They were sitting on it.
They were waiting.
Here's it from Quartz.
What happens if Joe Biden dies in office?
As of noon today, Joseph, Joseph Robinette Biden Jr.
is the 46th president of the U.S.
See how it's written?
As of noon today, as if they wrote it before he was president?
ian crossland
Is Robinette actually Bob?
Is he Joe Bob Biden?
jack murphy
No, better than that, he's Joe Bob Jr.
tim pool
Yeah, he's Joe Bob Jr.
I mean, that actually kind of sounds endearing, so I would call him Joe Bob Jr.
They say he is the oldest president.
So here's what's funny.
At the inauguration, Joe Biden was older than all of the former presidents who were there watching.
ian crossland
Combined.
tim pool
Not combined.
No, no, no.
But like you had Obama, Bush, and Clinton.
And Joe Biden's older than all of them.
Whoa.
I'm pretty sure he's older than Bill Clinton, right?
lydia smith
Yeah, he is.
That's crazy.
tim pool
He's older.
And Bill Clinton was like falling asleep.
Did you see that?
Bill Clinton fell asleep.
Well, they say it was the greatest inauguration speech ever given.
Well, Bill Clinton fell asleep, so I guess he's an old guy.
Anyway, they say he's the oldest president to serve the country at 78.
He is even older than the older president to leave office, Ronald Reagan, who was still 77 for a few days.
And Reagan lost his mind.
He thought that movie was real.
You know what I'm talking about?
Where the computer is going to fire the news.
ian crossland
War Games?
With Matthew Broderick?
tim pool
Yeah, he thought it was real, something like that.
jack murphy
The only winning move is not to play.
tim pool
Right, right.
Anyway.
jack murphy
Well, why do they have to write an article about it?
We know what the answer to the question is.
tim pool
Well, here's what they say.
They say 78, and that is almost two years older than the current life expectancy of a U.S.
born male, which is 76.3.
And declining.
The lowest of all wealthy countries and 14 years older than the male life expectancy of an American born in 1942.
His life expectancy is 14 years above people born in the same year as him.
jack murphy
He's probably already dead.
tim pool
Well, so you know what's really funny?
I said this as a joke.
They locked down all of DC because the inauguration actually happened weeks ago.
It was recorded and they can't let anyone see.
I'm kidding, by the way.
luke rudkowski
Well, he's been in political office for 44 years.
unidentified
47.
47 or 47?
47.
luke rudkowski
Almost 50 years now, and I see a lot of people tweeting, he's gonna fix things, he's gonna change things, and I'm like, huh?
tim pool
When Joe Biden first got elected, there were people serving in the Senate who were born in the 1800s.
Right.
I don't know if that fact check me because I saw that on Twitter from a journalist.
jack murphy
They said, yeah, that makes sense.
tim pool
They were talking about how Joe Biden was like one of he was one of the youngest or
the youngest at the time senator to get elected 47 years ago.
And there were people who had been born in the late 1800s who are still serving.
Isn't that crazy?
unidentified
And they gave him the nuclear football today.
luke rudkowski
Another sensationalistic garbage story that we saw in the mainstream media was Donald Trump stealing the nuclear football and other left-wing Twitter personalities with real, real actual Trump derangement syndrome talking about, I think he's going to set off some nukes before he goes.
Literally, that's the hyperbolic fear-mongering paranoia disinformation nonsense that was out there today.
tim pool
The Sun published that Trump had taken the nuclear football with him to Florida.
And so I tweet out the story like, wow.
And then I saw the video of the football being delivered to Biden.
I was like, oh, come on, you guys.
Well, let me read some of this.
They say this.
It's happened before.
A seamless transition of power in the case of unexpected events is a hallmark of a functioning democracy.
Biden is healthy and vaccinated, but given his age, it's responsible to ask what happens if he gets ill while in office or worse, dies.
After all, that has happened to a remarkable 17% of U.S.
presidents, 8 out of 46.
In 1841, William Henry Harrison died of typhoid at 68.
In 1850, Zachary Taylor died at 66, possibly of cholera.
In 1865, Abraham Lincoln was assassinated by John Wilkes Booth.
James Garfield was also assassinated in 1881 at the age of 48 by Charles Gouteau, a lawyer who believed he deserved a reward for helping the president's election.
Interesting.
William McKinley died at 58, 1901, also assassinated by anarchist Leon Cholzgaz.
I didn't know that.
I didn't know we had that many assassinations.
unidentified
That's crazy.
tim pool
Warren Harding died of a heart attack in 1923 and was not, as it was rumored at the time, poisoned by his wife Florence.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt died at the age of 63, poor health, and John F. Kennedy, he got his head blown off.
Who's next?
The 25th Amendment of the Constitution, which deals with presidential vacancy, disability, or inability, is clear on what happens if the president dies, resigns, or is removed.
jack murphy
Removed!
tim pool
Ah, yes, this one.
Do they go on to mention the commission?
The line of succession.
Uh, established in the 1947 Presidential Succession Act, starts with Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi.
Oh, okay, they're saying, what happens if both the President and Vice President are unable to serve?
So it goes Nancy Pelosi, and then it goes Chuck Grassley, and then it goes Democ- uh, then after Chuck Grassley, the President pro tempe, it will be Democratic Senator Pat Leahy of Vermont.
Oh, no, no, no, I'm sorry, no, he would be pro tempe.
And then Cabinet members, starting with the Secretary of State.
However, the presidential succession act says officials beyond the vice president in line of succession would only be acting as president, not become president after resigning from their office.
They will only hold the office until a new president can be chosen.
Blah, blah, blah.
We get the point.
The media is going to start ramping up this kind of rhetoric because it's responsible to ask.
Joe Biden's 14 years older than his life expectancy for his generation.
So, yeah.
President Kamala?
Who did she pick as VP, if that's the case?
unidentified
Hillary?
And then Kamala has an unfortunate accident.
tim pool
And then Hillary becomes president!
jack murphy
And the circle is complete.
You know, I have a tweet in 2018 that's just sitting there waiting to get brought up.
It's Kamala Harris will never be president.
Mark it down.
And it's becoming clear that that's at risk.
ian crossland
It's good that you embrace it, though.
Don't run from it.
jack murphy
I'm not running from the tweet, but man, Kamala Harris presidency sounds terrifying to me.
Well, effectively, what do we have now?
Anyway, I mean, it's going to all the same policies, all the same procedures, all the same appointees, all the same crap.
tim pool
I said I thought Kamala Harris was going to be president at one point and then Tulsi Gabbard, you know, nuked her campaign.
And so maybe that will end up coming true to a certain degree.
I will take credit for my completely accurate prediction, which no one saw coming, that Joe Biden would be inaugurated without a hitch.
And it was crazy because so many people were like, I don't know, man, I'm hearing this stuff.
And I'm like, dude, I said 99.99999% chance Joe Biden is going to get inaugurated.
After the election, I gave it like a 3% to 5% chance Trump pulled something off because the lawsuits didn't happen yet.
And then after the lawsuits failed, I was like, it's going to be Joe Biden.
It's Trump against the establishment, the cronies.
He's got no allies.
He's got his supporters.
That's great.
It's a lot of people.
And that's about it.
The Republicans don't like him.
They want him gone.
And that's why I think they might actually convict him in the Senate.
They might.
They might say, well, insurrection is a very serious thing, and this country must get back on track.
In order to unify, we're going to vote with our Democratic counterparts.
And that's it.
Trump can't run again in 2024.
Convicted of inciting insurrection.
lydia smith
I keep hearing that the Republican Party is trying to scrub Trump and all the signs of Trump out of the party.
Do you guys think that's what they're doing?
Do you think it's a good idea?
jack murphy
Of course they will.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
But you know what I love the most?
Joe Biden is going to be inheriting quite a budget crunch from President Trump.
Yeah, that's what Lisa Simpson said in the Simpsons episode where she becomes president.
We've inherited quite a budget crunch from President Trump.
And then Trump got elected, and the deficit increased, and the debt increased, and now there's Biden.
But it's okay, because the budget crunch is meaningless when money printer go brr.
It just means that you, the American citizen, will see your buying power diminish.
I hope you've been paying attention to your ability to buy, uh, foreign goods.
So, you know, what people don't seem to understand about the minimum wage and economics is that trade within your, you know, trading block, your country or whatever, can be fairly static because if you're going to trade with someone next door, like, let's say your neighbor's got, you know, eggs.
They got a bunch of fresh eggs.
And then you're like, I've got some freshly chopped wood.
You're going to, you have a kind of understanding on how much work you would be willing to do.
When we see inflation in this country, it's going to change the way we import goods from other countries.
Because that's where the change is going to really, really impact you.
Which is why computer components have been skyrocketing in cost.
So I've been, we've been trying to do a bunch of IT stuff, and we've been getting hit with, you know, certain computer components.
I think motherboards may have gone way up.
You want to build a computer?
It's getting harder.
You want to buy a tablet?
The price is already up 30-40%.
That's happening right now.
Not to mention, wow dude, is property skyrocketing.
We are on track to be like Ukraine, where a ton of ultra-wealthy corporations and individuals will hold the majority of the wealth, and regular people will be desperate and unable to pay their bills.
What's really amazing... And we're back!
For whatever... that was weird.
So anyway, long story short...
When you have a country that functions very much like Silicon Valley, the ultra wealthy are rich, will always be
rich, and they control the flow of money.
The poor people will never, never make enough enough to buy property ever again.
And that will maintain the oligarchy.
And that's where we're going to right now.
The mass printing of money will make it so that regular people will never own anything.
And doesn't that sound familiar?
In the future, by 2030, you'll own nothing and you'll be happy.
Like, yeah, you'll love it.
jack murphy
I mean, we clearly live in an oligarchy today.
A uniparty.
The corporations are oligopolists.
It's a cabal at this point, basically.
luke rudkowski
Well, let's not be negative, Nancy.
I think we should take some time and appreciate the good things that Biden and Harris are really great at.
I would like to start off and say that they're really good at jailing people for victimless crimes, and they're very effective.
tim pool
Gotta jail someone!
luke rudkowski
And it's going to be pretty boring soon coming up as well.
tim pool
Luke, Luke, Luke.
luke rudkowski
At least we got that going for us.
tim pool
Let's be honest here.
These poor private prison companies, their bottom line is at risk.
Yes.
Look, if people aren't being incarcerated, then how will they maintain corporate profits?
luke rudkowski
What else is the military-industrial complex supposed to do?
tim pool
Hey, look, man.
Look, there are a lot of kids running around over in that Middle East.
Someone's got to blow them up.
jack murphy
Fire up the drones.
tim pool
Morbid humor, my God.
luke rudkowski
Anything you're looking forward to, Ian?
ian crossland
Just like, uh, support the guy and let's evolve our economy.
tim pool
We're just talking about him incarcerating innocent people and blowing up kids.
luke rudkowski
That's great for the economy.
ian crossland
We live in the empire.
I mean, it's a, it's a masochistic lifestyle that we have, but it can be better.
jack murphy
We do live in the Empire, and I was thinking back about your comment earlier about what would Empire propaganda look like in the Star Wars universe.
Not exactly, but that was one thing I liked about Solo was that it did sort of give you a taste of what the bureaucracy was like within the Empire when he was trying to get signed up and trying to enlist.
It gave you that sense of what was it like dealing with the line workers in the Empire.
tim pool
If, uh, I was thinking about it because we were watching Star Wars, and it's like, Darth Vader is a quadruple amputee war hero who was horribly burned fighting to end the Galactic Civil War.
They won the Civil War.
Like, if you follow the whole history, Aniket Skywalker killed the leaders of the Separatist movement, ending the war, and was brutally maimed and scarred over it.
To the Empire, to those who supported it, he's like the hero of heroes, you know what I mean?
He's like John McCain, you know what I mean?
So of course you got the rebels who don't like him, but I think, I don't know if that's disrespectful to John McCain, but there's an analogy there, you know what I mean?
Fought in Vietnam, you know, it's messed up what happened to the guy, you know, with all due respect.
luke rudkowski
Hey, cryptocurrencies are going to go up.
Alternatives to the dollar as well.
I'm trying to be positive here.
tim pool
I'll tell you this.
The truth is, as much as there is an oppressive ruling class, there is still a possibility for those of good willpower and of strong mind and body to break through and move and find that upward mobility.
It's getting harder and harder to do.
And when it eventually becomes impossible and they've solidified their oligopoly where there's two classes and you can never bridge them, a casteism essentially, that's when you get true revolution.
Because then you're gonna get really, really smart people who are capable who say, I know for a fact the bridge cannot be created, therefore I'm going to rally, you know, the people around me.
Right now what happens is you've got people who can actually make their way into the upper class, into the ruling class, and become rich.
jack murphy
So why would they ever I think I think one of the harbingers of civil war and and major conflict like that is intra elite competition.
It is it is the competition between the 9% and 2% versus the 1%.
Those people who can see it, but they can't reach it.
They're kept out what they have capabilities and they have means.
tim pool
It's the 1% trying to get to the 0.1%.
And so one of the issues here is that our top tax bracket in the progressive system is like, what, it's up to everything after 250?
So I think it's something like that.
What ends up happening is a dude who makes half a million dollars, rich dude, he can buy a lot, comfortable.
Got a nice savings, got a bunch of stocks, and he's doing really well for himself.
Net worth, with a salary that high, could even be upwards of a few million dollars.
Him and his family and his kids.
But how does he get to the point where he's worth a hundred million?
Two hundred?
Three hundred?
Or a billionaire?
The problem is...
If you're getting taxed at half your money and you're making $500, you've got $250 disposable.
If you're making $10 million and they're taxing you at half, you've got $5 million.
So you have a lot more money to play with to expand and grow rapidly.
So if the tax bracket stops at $250, then it's really, really hard for people just above it to actually become ultra wealthy.
But for those born into wealth, granted wealth, or who eventually get there themselves, they can sustain that very, very easily.
jack murphy
That's the irony of the progressive tax system, that it actually enforces Economic casts.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Yeah. Well, so the solution is either I don't I don't believe the solution is a flat tax.
The solution would probably then have to be more progressive brackets.
The problem with the flat tax is that you still have basically the same thing.
It is it is for for somebody who makes 100 K a year paying even 25 percent.
They don't have the disposable income to invest and to grow and to experiment and to play around with.
And somebody who's ultra-wealthy, just more power, you know, power attracts power.
The more you have, the easier it is to gain more and more and more.
The problem is, punitive taxing is just giving the government money to waste and burn, and that's not helping anybody either.
So I don't know how you actually solve that problem.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I was gonna bring up that point.
I'm like, when we're taxing people and the government's getting more money, what are they spending that money on?
They're giving it to their friends and, you know.
tim pool
Right, right.
So the issue is taxation just empowers the corrupt government.
And without taxation, this is why I think if you had to make a choice between laissez-faire capitalism and socialism, laissez-faire is the best, because at least power is decentralized for a short period of time.
Eventually it starts to coalesce around corporations and you get what we're seeing kind of today.
But if you go for communism, then you're just instantly centralizing all power around the committee.
jack murphy
Here's something that's interesting that's coming up.
I was talking to John Robb, a fantastic analyst who's been really on top of what's been going on last number of years while going back to the Iraq wars, actually.
And he and I were talking and he had an epiphany.
He realized that socialism is coming, but it's coming through.
He called it personal socialism enforced through the corporations.
Right.
The corporations are going to enforce the social.
Stand aside for people of color.
Relinquish your positions of power.
This is the end goal of CRT.
It's being adopted everywhere.
It's being beaten into our kids.
It's in the corporations now.
And now these ideas of stand aside, give away, step back, lose your power on purpose.
Give up to the Kim look to the collective. It's like corporate enforced
Personal socialism slash communism, which is a very insidious way of it actually coming into your society
It's like it's like it found a different vector. It tried to go through the government was like, okay go that way
unidentified
Oh now we'll go through the corporation. So now it's gonna work. There's two kinds of people
tim pool
Several years ago. I had a conversation with very prominent leftists a writer who's still particularly prominent today
And we both kind of concluded the same philosophical assessment on life
That purpose is what you decided to be, that there's no, you know, like, What is the universe?
I'll put it this way.
It was a rather nihilistic end result of our conversation.
That if there is nothing to do, what are we here for?
What happens when we die?
We can't prove anything.
So we're just here.
Then what do you do?
Then what's the point?
And I said, then do your best to be positive.
To build, to create, to help others and just make it enjoyable for the time being.
And her response was, burn it all down because it's fun and it's funny.
And this is a very prominent leftist.
And it was during Occupy Wall Street, and I was just like, why cause suffering and pain?
She was like, there's no point anyway.
Maybe these people should finally realize that there's no point, and it's fun to kind of shake things up and watch it burn.
And I was like, I don't think suffering is fun at all.
I think we want to help and build things up.
And so it's the light and the dark of what's happening.
What I see from that is, when you get to the point where you have this insidious nature of critical race theory pushing some kind of, you know, this kind of socialism into the system, You have many very smart people like this individual I talked to totally, you know, we agreed on many philosophical points saying
Dude, I can be the elite, sipping my wine in my penthouse, laughing at all the stupid plebs who buy the garbage we sold them, and I'll be rich forever and comfortable and live a glorious life if I just submit to the system and push it?
Deal.
And then you get people who go the other way and say, I'm gonna make sure people have the choice, and, you know, it's light side versus dark side.
Star Wars reference again, how about that?
jack murphy
They did write it that way.
luke rudkowski
Well, one of the things you mentioned that I think kind of hits the nail on the head is how underhanded it is.
It's all done in the name of equality, helping people.
But in reality, what we're seeing is just another transfer of power to the super rich, to the super wealthy.
And to bring up your point, I do believe that there's a bigger kind of cosmic energetic fight.
You know, a lot of people may look at you crazy or side-eyed when you talk about these larger kind of Yeah, but come on.
is out there but I definitely do agree because there's literal politicians in the woods worshipping
things like MOLIK with their secret society so I know you're looking at me sideways but
when we have very powerful institutions that are circulated within secret societies that
are circulated amongst some really weird trippy stuff. It's still just the political dude.
Yeah it is political but I think it's beyond that.
I think it's energetic, personally, and I think there's a lot more going on outside of our realm of understanding that we can't even comprehend yet.
tim pool
So it's kind of like Constantine.
The angels and the demons are lurking, you know, kind of in between reality, coaxing people to do good or bad.
It's a bet that God has or the devil to see what will people choose.
ian crossland
When I was a kid, some kids would like pull the legs off of spiders or take magnifying glasses and fry ants with sunlight and kill them.
And I went to a birthday party in like fifth grade and all my friends were there.
And they took these wiffle ball bats outside and there were lightning bugs.
You know those, have you ever seen lightning bugs?
And they were just smacking them.
Killing them just just destroying life for fun, and I wouldn't do it
I went inside and I sat alone and I was treated like the outcast I became the outcast
I became the psychopath because they were all normalized there's but they were the psychopaths
Killing for fun and that's in our children takers not leavers I don't know.
jack murphy
Humans, gorillas, we're killers, dude.
We kill.
We kill to eat.
That's how we live.
It's built into all of us.
We have to practice this.
ian crossland
They were killing to eat.
They were killing for fun.
jack murphy
But kids play as a way to learn how to be adults.
And as a human animal, you have to kill things to eat.
Sorry, vegans.
ian crossland
You have to kill plants, vegans.
jack murphy
Yeah, exactly.
And all the mice and the bugs and everything that are byproduct killed in that.
But like play is to teach you how to be an adult.
Killing a lightning bug, probably not the best thing I'd imagine.
I prefer, you know, capturing it or whatever.
But dude, I've smacked some lightning bugs.
I remember seeing the yellow stuff all on my hands.
Killing things is being part of humans.
luke rudkowski
You just smacked a bug now.
I looked at you sideways.
I was like, what are you doing?
jack murphy
That's twice that stink bug landed on my mic.
First time I went that way.
Second time I went this way.
luke rudkowski
I was more worried about the bug than me.
tim pool
Didn't Luke Skywalker talk about shooting womp rats or something?
jack murphy
Yes, he did.
tim pool
What is that?
He's killing small animals?
lydia smith
That's a psychopath.
tim pool
Was he eating them?
Was he hunting them?
Or was he just for fun?
That's kind of weird.
luke rudkowski
In nature, we also see some cruelty from animals that just torture and play with their prey a lot of the times.
tim pool
Name the animal.
luke rudkowski
Cats.
unidentified
I don't know.
luke rudkowski
Name another one.
The whales.
Orca whales?
tim pool
Orca whales don't do that.
ian crossland
Dolphins.
tim pool
Dolphins don't do that.
ian crossland
Dolphins will torture puffer fish.
luke rudkowski
The whales with the white... No, no, no.
tim pool
Dolphins trip balls off puffer fish.
ian crossland
Dolphins will drag humans underwater and drown them for fun.
I don't know if that's for fun, dude.
tim pool
So, they say there's two species on this planet that kill for fun, humans and cats.
Cats will literally kill and then walk away.
Most other things kill for a reason, but cats will, like, torture the small animal because it amuses them.
I don't know about anything else, maybe I'm wrong.
But the puffer fish thing was because they'll chew on it for the toxins and then get stoned, and then spit it out, and then it's like all messed up, and then they'll, you know, they're doing puffer man.
ian crossland
Alligators will just, I mean, maybe they're doing it to eat.
jack murphy
I've seen dogs kill squirrels and then just walk away from them.
I mean, it happens all over the place.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I forgot.
jack murphy
But if we keep looking to nature as a role model for us as humans, it's probably not the right path.
We'd like to take a higher ideal.
And I keep thinking about that Kanye conversation with Joe Rogan.
The only thing that I took away from that Kanye conversation is when he said, and I thought it was very powerful, he said, I don't fear anything because I have replaced all of that with the fear of God.
ian crossland
Yeah, he lost his mom.
He couldn't be hurt and he lost his mom.
jack murphy
That struck me.
luke rudkowski
That struck me as a powerful statement.
jack murphy
It really was.
And I've never been religious.
I was bar mitzvahed as a kid.
I went to Catholic mass.
I just mixed family.
None of it ever stuck.
But I'll tell you, in the last three, four or five years, I am most open towards some sort of spiritual awakening, some sort of faith, something.
than I've ever been in my life.
And I can see, I can totally understand the case.
I'm just kind of waiting for that epiphany.
tim pool
You know, I know a lot of very wealthy and successful people who believe in magic.
jack murphy
I can understand why.
I've had success in my life and it's come in part from just closing my eyes and dreaming about it and then speaking it into existence and then talking about it and then all of a sudden the world changes around you and you begin to see the opportunity to make that story come true in your life.
tim pool
Now they say it could be positive mental attitude.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You focus on doing what you need to do, you visualize it.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
What happens, when you say, I want this, you're now focused on looking for the things
that will get you down that path.
But I know a lot of people who are wealthy and successful, people who come from humble beginnings,
who genuinely believe that it's magic because, I mean, I gotta be honest.
I know some people, and I'm like, how did you pull that off?
And they're just like, I willed it.
I believed it.
I know a lot of people believe crazy stuff like that.
ian crossland
It's magnetic.
That's where the word magic comes from, that MAG prefix.
And it's like the sun is magnetic.
I mean, we see that in the solar flares.
Our bodies have electromagnetic toruses around them.
Our neurons in our brain, when we think, are creating magnetic electric pathways, and we're connected to those.
tim pool
Or it's a simulation.
And the person who is controlling the game is like, they want to be, you know, new career.
So I'm going to go to new career mode.
I'm going to go to pay for, you know, pay to play.
It's 10 bucks and I can activate rockstar mode.
ian crossland
Dude, I think it's legit a magnetic superstructure.
Like it's, it's, we're experiencing simulatory where we're simulate, you know, we're reading binary code, like as senses, but it's a magnetic structure that we're connected to.
luke rudkowski
We're all experiencing limited dimensions to how many dimensions are out there.
And other people call it, you know, manifestation, whatever you may want to call it.
But there is something to say about this that has been looked into by science that is absolutely
freaky.
And some people call it religion, and I think there's a lot of power in religion, and it
shouldn't be underplayed, it shouldn't be criticized.
But for me, it's something very personal.
I experienced, I had insane, if I tell you what I experienced, you guys won't believe
me in so many instances.
And I don't even feel like sharing it, because I'm going to be looked at as a crazy person.
But I do truly believe that there is something bigger, a power out there.
tim pool
I was reading this one conspiracy theory.
I don't think conspiracy theory is the right word for this.
What do you call it?
Paranormal theory, I guess?
Well, I guess it's actually a conspiracy theory.
I was reading this thing online where they said that every person has the ability to influence the universe.
jack murphy
Yes.
tim pool
And so they put fluoride in the water to dull people's brains so their ability to influence is dramatically weakened and those who don't have the fluoride in their water brains are stronger and that it created a dulling effect because there are too many people.
I'm not saying that's true.
I'm saying there are people who believe that.
They believe there's like a nefarious effort by the government.
Drink it?
away the masses ability to will into existence their own universe.
ian crossland
I don't I don't think that that far.
I think that they're doing it because it's good for your enamel.
It remineralize your teeth, but and they're just like damn the consequences with it does
your endocrine system.
Yeah, it's not good for your endocrine system.
You don't want it on your skin because they just want it on people's teeth.
It's like you can just brush your teeth.
tim pool
But then they also sell that toothpaste without fluoride in it.
ian crossland
I have it.
tim pool
It's so confusing.
ian crossland
I do one of each.
Five days without the fluoride and then like one day a week.
tim pool
Well, we're on well water, man.
There's no fluoride out here.
ian crossland
But it's really good for your enamel.
Fluoride.
Fluorine's deadly for your endocrine system, though.
tim pool
Unless you're a kid and you'll get fluorosis.
It messes your teeth up real bad.
ian crossland
And it calcifies your pineal gland?
Legit, dude.
tim pool
Does it really do that, your pineal gland?
What was that movie from the 80s where the dude turns the machine on and then his pineal gland turns into an eye and then he becomes some kind of deranged monster?
You ever see that one?
What was that movie called?
I'm sure somebody in the comments knows.
So a mad scientist creates this thing to stimulate the pineal gland, allowing them to see into another dimension.
And then the scientist gets his head bitten off by a monster and then fuses with it.
It's a crazy movie.
ian crossland
That's cool.
Are you saying that the only way out of this is through magic?
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
Are you saying that one way out of this is through magic?
tim pool
I don't even know how we got into this.
ian crossland
Well, you said that really successful people you know believe in magic, and I think that corresponds with magnetic thoughts.
tim pool
Well, listen, listen, listen.
There are people I know who are not religious, and they call their experience magic.
And the people I know who are religious call it God.
ian crossland
I call it magnetic because I've studied physics.
tim pool
I know people who say that they've actually spoken with some kind of otherworldly being.
I told this story before on the show about a guy who said he felt a voice from within his own body talk to him.
And so there are people who see that, and they go to religion.
It's really interesting, this dichotomy.
It's people who believe there is something else, a greater power, giving them guidance and protection, whereas the people who believe in magic think it's their power.
ian crossland
It's probably like alpha waves and the resonating frequency of the alpha wave vibrating through your body.
So like you're getting these really long waves that are passing through black holes and through our sun and through the earth.
And they're going through us and they're causing a vibe.
You know, the, the resonating frequency is like when a wheel starts to spin, it spins so fast that it looks like it's spinning backwards.
Yeah.
That's the resonating behavior of vibration.
tim pool
I don't know what that has to do with.
ian crossland
So that you, they actually start to hear it because it's resonating in their system.
Your bones are like crystalline.
tim pool
You're not going to be able to explain magic to anybody because magic is not explainable.
ian crossland
It's just magnetic.
tim pool
So if you think about it as magnetics... Magnetics is a... Listen.
We have a general understanding of electromagnetism, and when I'm talking about someone saying, I wish I had a sandwich, and then a guy walks in with a sandwich, it's nothing to do with magnetism.
It's something entirely different.
ian crossland
Well, I don't know if that's nothing to do with magnetism.
If you have a thought, and then it turns toward becoming real?
tim pool
You do this too much.
I barely do this at all, Tim.
You're the one that brought up magic.
ian crossland
So I brought up magnetics.
tim pool
It has the same prefix.
jack murphy
This reminds me of dictator and diction.
tim pool
When someone says they're hunting ghosts, so they pull out an EMF reader, it's meaningless.
They just arbitrarily decided that somehow it has something to do with ghosts.
ian crossland
I don't think there's much to that.
tim pool
The point I'm making is, it's really interesting that there's two versions of something very similar.
People who believe there is a higher power than them, providing guidance, and they believe in that power, and people who believe the power is actually their own, and they're the ones influencing the world.
ian crossland
I think that it's coming from out there, but it's going into you and changing your body.
Through vibration when so they hear it. They think they're hearing it, but it's just because they're vibrating like so
jack murphy
All I know is that if I have an idea about something in the future and I close my eyes and I think about it
And I meditate on it and it becomes a mantra and it becomes my personal narrative the story
I tell myself and I tell other people and it shapes the way that they see me shapes the way that I see reality
Then reality changes and it manifests into actual physical real things that affects other people
And if that's not magic, I don't know what is.
And I'm all about it.
It sounds foo-foo and woo-woo or whatever.
tim pool
Positive mental attitude.
jack murphy
Positive mental attitude and visualization and a crafted personal narrative that you tell yourself.
That you tell other people so it shapes the way they see you, it shapes the way you interact with the world.
There's so much data in the world, perception-wise, that our job isn't to take in as much data as we can.
Our job is to actually take in as little data as we can.
So we're constantly pushing data away and not taking it in.
And when you start focusing yourself on your goals and your dreams and your visions, the data that you had been blocking out that was helpful now comes in.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, one of my favorite quotes in life is, uh, you are the imagination of yourself.
It's by Bill Hicks.
And I think that is eternally true.
And you should be really careful with your thoughts, with your energy and how you spend your time.
Um, and, um, yeah, that's just my two cents here.
ian crossland
I think about that a lot on this show.
Cause sometimes I'll be sitting here like, Oh God, we're going into the doom cast.
Cause we're talking about how bad things are going to get.
And I know that there's something to manifesting.
Especially when we have the video internet, where we're like accentuating our vibration on this, we're imprinting it, and then it's imprinting on other people.
And I just want to take the conversation and twist it and like, you guys, it's too abrupt, you know?
tim pool
I don't think, you know, a podcast that averages about, you know, Half a million to a million, just on its own, is going to be that impactful.
It's all the different shows, all of them contributing.
And, you know, truth be told, this is a fairly milquetoast in terms of political opinion.
We're not super far left or far right or anything like that.
We're not hardcore conspiracy theorists or anything like that.
There are channels that get way more views, ten times the views, that are staunch conservatives.
But they're the ones shaping the left and the right.
ian crossland
The way people listen and view, because I think people that watch the show are really listening.
They are.
I think that's a bit egotistical.
to shows that are on the background that are just like washing and those those are more these views
count in a way that other i think that's a bit egotistical i mean i'm just being honest i'm not
tim pool
doing it to rub anybody's ego no listen i think if we were actually look i there's a reason why
you know i'm trying to focus on building subscribers and stuff because i can see the
real power wielded by people who have the audience that actually listens
And I mean no disrespect to people listening.
I'm saying, I look at some of these podcasts that get millions of dollars per month, and they only get like 50,000 downloads per episode.
And I'm like, wow.
Because that's what it truly means to listen, to have that audience.
And so they're not reliant, they're not worried about censorship.
I'm not gonna name these podcasts, but there are some leftist podcasts that have called for violence, had have joked and laughed about calling for violence, and nothing bad ever happened to them because they're not that big, but they're substantially more influential and powerful than we could get close to being.
jack murphy
I think you underestimate the positive influence that you have.
tim pool
No, I don't.
I'm just saying that They're the true people who are playing to the political factions that are pushing either on the right or the left are way more powerful.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
No, this is many more of them.
jack murphy
This is grassroots.
We're talking to the people.
We're talking to the people, regular people.
Regular people.
People come to me on Twitter and they're like, why'd you give up the fight?
And I'm like, bro, what fight?
I'm not an activist.
I'm not a politician.
I don't work for the government.
I'm just like a dude talking to my other dude friends and some of my ma's out there.
Uh, and so like, it's really just about grassroots and it's really about talking directly to the people and helping them make a positive change in their lives.
And one positive thing has definitely come out of this is a number of guys that I have been introduced to through your show have joined the liminal order, our group.
And we're talking about manifestation.
We're talking about personal narrative.
We're talking about accountability, you know, doing things that improve yourself, your family, your community, and maybe, maybe your nation.
Yeah, there's big strokes that need to be done up here and huge strategies that need to happen.
But on a day-to-day basis to avoid the doom casting and all that crap, you need to get with people that share your values.
You need to build a community and you need to build yourself so that you can be strong for your family and your community and your friends and have accountability and loyalty among each other.
And that is something that has definitely come out.
We've had probably over a hundred guys from the 10 pool audience join up the limo order in the last six or nine months, and they're changing their lives in a very, very positive way.
So I don't diminish the power that you have.
Just it's directed at a different audience.
tim pool
That's not what I mean.
What I mean is, the people, you know, Ian's talking about, we have to, Doom casting and stuff.
I'm like, I don't think the people listen to us.
Like, I get a lot of messages from people saying, I love the show, I love hearing your perspective, but I disagree with you.
I'm talking about how there's a mass of some of the biggest, like, in terms of how much money they make and how much influence they wield.
They're substantially smaller podcasts in terms of audience size.
But substantially larger in terms of the impact they have on news media and the narrative and critical race theory and all that stuff.
And it's because they're not scared of censorship and because they have exorbitant amounts of money.
jack murphy
And they're connected to the mainstream media who amplify their messages and put it into the institutions and the establishment.
tim pool
Yeah.
jack murphy
Yeah.
So they're just part of the machine.
tim pool
Not necessarily all of them.
It's just, for whatever reason, they gain way more traction.
It's a weird phenomenon.
But it's like they've gotten the ears of the zealots.
And the narratives that really work... Like, how many Q shows and videos were just driving that narrative non-stop?
How many retweets was Lin Wood getting?
Feeding people what they want to hear.
And making money doing it.
A lot of people have been critical of them to the very end.
They were claiming yesterday, Donald Trump's gonna, it's gonna be tomorrow.
That's it.
Now they're saying, I kid you not, no one ever said it was supposed to happen.
They needed to wait until Joe Biden was inaugurated.
The real move comes in two days.
Just you wait, because they still want to hold onto that.
But it's not even just about those independent podcasts.
It's about the mainstream media doing the exact same thing.
We don't do that.
I lost a ton of subscribers when I said Joe Biden won.
People didn't want to hear it.
I don't care.
He did.
And it was obvious what was coming.
And there was a slim, slim possibility that was diminishing all along the way of Trump pulling off some kind of Hail Mary.
But there's a lot of people who produce content, and they get the diehard zealots to just pay up to it.
It is a disadvantage that fair-minded, liberty-minded people don't have.
The grifting works better than being honest.
ian crossland
Or nuanced.
It might attract more people, but it doesn't necessarily work better.
The people that are zealously agreeing and nodding and scratching their own back, that's different than listening to views that they don't agree with, but continuing to listen.
Because, I don't know why, because they believe in you.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
tim pool
But listen, we don't have the independence We're beholden.
That's why I'm trying to build the audience and build the backbone that we can make.
We can do segments where we were swearing.
The first segment we're laughing and just swearing as much as possible.
Because now we can!
On TimCats.com we do the bonus segments.
We can say things we can't say on YouTube.
And so I've seen podcasts on the left literally tell people to organize violence.
Still to this day they're making millions of dollars.
jack murphy
Aliens.
tim pool
And that influences the zealots, and they buy it up, and they never stop, and there's no accountability for them.
jack murphy
When did you say we get to swear?
unidentified
In the bonus segment, we'll record, uh... Right after Super Chats.
tim pool
Let's do Super Chats.
ian crossland
I'm gonna get the bathroom.
tim pool
And then, uh, yes.
jack murphy
You could've just done that quietly.
Nobody would've known what's up.
unidentified
TMI.
TMI.
jack murphy
He's also wearing his pajama pants, just FYI.
unidentified
What else did you expect?
tim pool
If you have not already smashed that like button... Smash it.
Jeffrey McCorbin says, finally gonna talk about aliens.
Spin the gorilla!
We didn't talk about aliens.
unidentified
We didn't.
tim pool
We didn't.
It's just, you know, we get it.
We get wrapped up in the news and then it's just like, we got to keep going.
But I do think as time goes on, we're probably going to, I'm going to try and incorporate more cultural stuff, especially into the show.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
Everything's going to be boring as hell.
unidentified
We did before COVID, we had tons of stuff.
tim pool
Talk about movies.
We did movie reviews.
luke rudkowski
COVID is going to be here and politics is going to be boring.
jack murphy
I tell you what, before two weeks from now, I will watch V for Vendetta and we can talk about it.
tim pool
All right, let's see what we got.
jack murphy
That's funny.
tim pool
Mute says, hey Tim, after watching Will of the People and Words in a Book, I finally grabbed my songbooks, started recording my own music, and I'm starting to build a home studio.
Thanks for the inspiration.
Oh, you betcha.
jack murphy
Congrats, dude.
Good for you.
tim pool
Sastrix says, scariest thing to me was the open embrace for equity on day one.
Second scariest is the fact they immediately lifted the ban on travel to and from terror hotspots.
This is not good.
Please cheer us up, Tim.
Well, that was at 8, so sorry.
I don't think we delivered on that one.
Maybe the spirituality stuff was fun.
jack murphy
Doomcasting!
tim pool
Doom casting.
Simple Caleb says, Kate Brown, governor of Oregon, vowed revenge on our district state reps in East Oregon due to climate bill walkout in 2019.
We've been on lockdown like six months despite being very low population.
Google Kate Brown revenge for context.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, well, there you go.
Danny Miller says, historic first day ending XL pipeline that generated 2,800 jobs in Canada and 10,400 in USA, including indigenous groups.
Canadian tariffs coming.
lydia smith
They're trying to sue the US, the Biden administration.
tim pool
Oh, for shutting it down?
Ha, that's funny.
lydia smith
Yep, really funny.
tim pool
Let's see, Crevels says, Read earlier, Trump tried pardoning Snowden, but Barr blocked him.
Speaking of being scared, didn't Hitler use propaganda machine to come to power?
Yeah, any similarities to today?
You know, they say history doesn't repeat itself, it rhymes.
I don't like too much.
There's certain things I have no problem comparing to World War II, in terms of like expansion, war, you know, Weimar Germany, things like that, but you gotta be careful on stuff.
Eric Bright says, Poe's Law, any sufficiently advanced troll is indistinguishable from a genuine kook.
Daniel Maxwell says, if this scary thought becomes reality, we are screwed.
In three months, either Biden or Harris will be out of office.
Hillary will be named as vice president, and three months after that, she will be president.
We did mention that.
I don't think so.
You know, I can't remember what we were talking about on the show.
Everybody said Trump wasn't going to finish his first term.
Biden.
And we're back!
So it's funny.
We have we have gigabit internet now.
It's remarkable.
Yeah, but it's not stable.
It is like throughout the day.
We have no problems, but something's happening right now.
So it may be it only went down for like 10 seconds.
It might be our router box or something.
ian crossland
We just got it set up like four days ago or so.
jack murphy
Yeah, just go pull it out of the box.
unidentified
Pull it out of the wall.
tim pool
No, you know, you know what it is.
We do have gigabit.
It's insanely expensive.
And it's because we're like one of the first businesses to get internet out here.
We're in the middle of nowhere, and so they just put the line down.
They literally just put it down.
The node was built a couple years ago, and then when I called them, they said, okay.
Six months later, they laid the fiber, you know, down the road.
So it was really, really us who made it happen.
So, unreliable, at least so far, but at least it's gigabit for now.
So, there have been a few drop-offs, I don't know why, but at least the video quality has been perfect.
Nuclear Winter Gamer says, sorry I'm late.
Had a You Laugh, You Lose video and cute kitten that really likes belly rubs vid queued up before the stream.
Oh, that's definitely something y'all need to watch right now.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I feel like a lot of people are zoned out today.
Definitely.
Definitely.
Like they just tuned out.
Like I'm seeing a lot of comments from people like, nah, I'm going to go chill.
Good.
For real.
Meditate.
Sensory deprivation, man.
That's cool stuff.
jack murphy
Focus on yourself.
This obsession with national politics is unhealthy for most everyone.
tim pool
Yeah, local politics, man.
Matt Michalak says, What's going to happen as the economy fails is that Biden will just say that he inherited a bad economy from Trump in the same way they said, oh, Trump inherited a good one from Obama.
No personal responsibility.
That's exactly right.
jack murphy
They are the party of no personal responsibility.
unidentified
That's correct.
tim pool
Eclecticism says, hey guys, my monitor isn't working.
I have to print out chat in order to read it.
The paper and ink are really expensive, so please don't spam.
unidentified
Thank you.
jack murphy
It is really fast, the chat, dude.
unidentified
It's insane.
tim pool
Jacob Posada says, at least I can still criticize the president and not be called racist.
Hey, there you go.
lydia smith
Good point.
tim pool
Michael Kael says, Hi Tim, two days ago you asked on Twitter for advice about a 410 shotgun.
I'm paying to say that the Taurus Judge is a goddamn meme gun and not to buy it, despite all the suggestions.
Anyone who says it's good hasn't got one.
Well, um, I was specifically asking for a 410 3-inch chamber.
And so, I think a lot of people didn't realize that, I guess.
A 3-inch chamber, a 3-inch 410.
Uh, you know.
But, uh, some people gave me some recommendations.
And there's some cool stuff.
I'm getting my Makarov handgun.
It's a Czechoslovakian gun.
lydia smith
Sweet.
tim pool
Yeah, did you know that story?
jack murphy
I do not.
tim pool
I accidentally ordered a ton of Soviet bullets.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
And Soviet bullets don't work in, you know, our guns.
Because the Soviets didn't want the ammo to be interchangeable if the, you know, we came in and there's war and then we found their ammo depot or whatever.
So they do 9x18, we do... What is standard 9mm Luger, like 9x19?
luke rudkowski
I don't know exactly.
tim pool
I think it's 9x19, right?
And the .380 is like 9x17 or something.
luke rudkowski
I don't know the measurements off the top of my head.
tim pool
But all I know is the Makarov stuff is 9x18 and it looks weird and it doesn't work in your regular gun, so somebody sent me a recommendation for a Czechoslovakian... a Czech?
Is Czechoslovakian the wrong term?
jack murphy
It is definitely the wrong term.
tim pool
Oh, okay, it's Czech, right?
jack murphy
Czech or Slovak.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
Well, it was from the Soviet, you know, era or whatever.
jack murphy
True.
tim pool
So I'm getting one of those.
That's gonna be fun.
unidentified
Sick.
tim pool
And, uh, cool.
unidentified
Soviet gun, huh?
jack murphy
That's a box of nails looking for a hammer, huh?
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
Yeah, a lot of them.
But you know what?
Ammo is so hard to come by these days.
When the company hit me up and they were like, we realized you probably bought the wrong ammo.
I was like, you can't have it back.
And they were like, okay, you can keep it.
Like they were saying, we'll exchange it for you.
I was like, no, I don't care what it is.
ian crossland
I just saw you guys shooting earlier and it was like, oh my God, every shot is like $2.
That could all be going into crypto right now.
unidentified
It is.
tim pool
It's crazy.
Not the 22, though.
The 22 was fun, but we have this really crappy Walmart Target that was getting hit, and I wanted it to explode, and huge chunks were getting ripped off of it, and it was fun.
luke rudkowski
Shooting it with a slug was pretty fun.
tim pool
Yeah, Luke fired a shotgun slug and obliterated a portion of it.
Crappy little metal Walmart Target.
It's okay, though.
The 22 was fun.
It spins around.
It's like, wing-wing, you know?
Brian Markin says, Hey Tim, you talked about creating culture.
I started contributing to it by starting an ATV UTV channel with my friends with hopes of opening own park.
Cutting trails on YouTube.
Cool.
Definitely.
That's what we need right now.
There's too much, you know, you have the problem with the right often is, is there's a reason why it's called reactionary.
You know, if they see something happen, they complain about it.
Like, Oh, this is bad.
I don't like this.
Or, you know, here's why we should be opposed to this.
The left does that too.
But the left will, you know, you get AOC playing Among Us.
She's playing the video game, encouraging other people to play it, getting all the, you know, socialist leftists to play video games and they're laughing and they're joking and they're building a culture around the memes and stuff like that while advocating for their politics.
On the right, they complain about it.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, we were talking about going ATVing soon.
What was the name of that company?
Let me look them up.
Maybe we could go visit them.
tim pool
Fortitude Ranch?
luke rudkowski
No, no, no.
The ATV company guys.
tim pool
Oh, I don't know.
luke rudkowski
Oh, okay.
I'll double check.
tim pool
Fortitude Ranch is cool, though.
I'd like to go check that place out.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's see.
XRunner says, Jimmy Dore and other leftists are already pissing on the Biden administration.
It's the white college-educated middle and upper class that is supporting Biden protected by licenses that are not useful outside of the U.S.
Jimmy Dore's always ragged on the Democrats, because Jimmy Dore is an actual left populist with principles and integrity, and so there are things he genuinely thinks will be good for everybody that he wants, and he thinks the crony establishment is full of it and lying, and he's 100% correct.
It's really funny.
Jimmy, uh, there was a period where my channel got labeled right-wing, and Jimmy's got labeled left-wing by this researcher, And I then showed him a screenshot of both our channels, where they were nearly identical, talking about the same things in very similar ways.
Like, Nancy Pelosi is crooked for this or that reason.
And I'm like, what's the difference?
I've actually advocated for the Green New Deal before the woke version came out.
Like, the idea of investing into renewable technologies and stuff, I was in favor of until I saw whatever they were producing.
I've advocated for a public option, and I'm like, aren't those left as well?
How does that get labeled as right-wing?
And they're like, I don't know.
I'm like, so what's the difference?
jack murphy
It's your guests.
That's the difference.
tim pool
No, this was before I had any guests.
jack murphy
Oh, really?
tim pool
This was well before that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This was a long time ago.
And I'm like, if I make a video saying the Democrats are corrupt, and then a leftist does, and we literally say the same things, you've got a perception and framing problem.
I think it's because the letters are red on my videos.
If I made them blue, they'd be like, he's clearly on the left.
Connor O'Brien says, Tim, for a BTC 51% attack means you need to be operating 51% of the nodes, recording the transactions.
You don't need to own any of the currency.
Right, that's what I said.
You need 51% of the nodes.
And they could easily do that.
So when Luke mentioned that they sold the currency off, yeah, they don't need it.
They give me control of the nodes and I care not who has the coins, right?
Eddie Schroeder says, 100% support Lil Wayne, pardon.
Watch Coleen Noir's video on it, direct attack on the Second Amendment.
Right, so a lot of people are saying that because he's a felon and had a gun, they're gonna try and arrest him and lock him up, and that ain't right.
A lot of people... What are your thoughts, guys, on felons owning guns?
Second Amendment doesn't say, if you're a felon, you can't own a gun.
It says, shall not be infringed.
lydia smith
Actually, no one who is having a hard time right now because the riots and everything and everything's going crazy and being the fan.
He's like, I can't own a gun.
I'm a felon.
I'm not that person anymore.
I got my degree.
I work really hard now.
I have my own apartment, but it doesn't matter because I'm a felon.
So I'll never really be able to defend myself.
jack murphy
I was like, Shall not be infringed.
lydia smith
That's right.
jack murphy
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
Ditto.
tim pool
Well, there you go.
The council has spoken.
Let's see.
Braycock says, did you see where Biden's handlers rushed the press out after he signs his first three executive orders when they started asking questions?
No, I didn't see that.
Wasn't that pipeline like breaking and leaking oil?
I think there was one leak.
That's horrendous.
Excel, I've never been so angry in my entire life.
Canada just got stabbed in the back.
Two thousand Canadians just lost their jobs today.
Fork Biden.
Biden cannot be trusted.
ian crossland
Wasn't that pipeline like breaking and leaking oil?
tim pool
I think there was one leak.
ian crossland
That's horrendous.
Oil so 1900s, man.
tim pool
It's the it's I believe it's the second highest return on energy investment.
That's why we use it.
ian crossland
I heard there was more than one leak.
You've only heard, you think there was one?
jack murphy
They all leak all the time because they're human made and human things are fallible and everything breaks.
ian crossland
Metal bolted together.
jack murphy
Who cares?
All the people that are losing their land.
I'm just saying, things break.
Everything breaks.
Frickin' internet just went down here.
ian crossland
Well, like the Deepwater Horizon, when that busted, that was pretty terrifying.
jack murphy
That's a big one.
tim pool
That was remarkably bad.
It was so deep they couldn't get to it.
ian crossland
That's nuts.
tim pool
We got Viola saying, Joe Biden's inauguration video is so unpopular that it's now unlisted on the White House YouTube account with over 13,000 dislikes.
lydia smith
Most popular president, you guys.
tim pool
Judo Eagle says, Pool Murphy 2024.
Yep, I will be officially old enough as of March of this year.
luke rudkowski
What am I, chopped liver?
tim pool
You can be the press secretary.
luke rudkowski
I want to be in charge of the Federal Reserve.
jack murphy
No!
unidentified
That's Ian's job!
luke rudkowski
I'll take DOD.
tim pool
If I ever, if I ever, like if 2024... Secretary of State.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
If by some... Third.
Love the Fed.
of reality. I find myself like through a securitist, Rube Goldberg type
securitist series of events. I become president. I'm gonna nominate Ron Paul as
chairman of the Federal Reserve. Because that would just be a whole lot of hilarious.
luke rudkowski
Ian as vice president of the Fed and I will gladly take Secretary of State.
ian crossland
As of November 5th, 2019, I've counted 29 times that the pipeline has leaked.
jack murphy
Wow.
He says, I reject your offer of President of the Fed.
ian crossland
That was a year and three months ago it had leaked like 26 times or something.
tim pool
Dez says, y'all need more gun knowledge.
Paul Harrell, Hickok45, Brandon Herrera, Colleen Noir.
TFBTV, James Reeves, all great channels with good info.
I watch a lot of Hickok45, that's a whole lot of fun.
ian crossland
Do you think we could repeal... I'm sorry, who left that super chat?
tim pool
For the gun stuff?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
D, Dez.
ian crossland
Hey Dez, thanks man, I want to talk about Federal Reserve for a second though.
unidentified
Do you guys think we could repeal it?
ian crossland
And then just kind of use the US government to control the monetary, the printing?
tim pool
That's what was supposed to happen.
And then a bunch of rich people went on Jekyll Island.
I didn't know about this, the conspiracy theory that they purposefully sank the Titanic so that all of the wealth would get left behind that they could seize to use to start the Federal Reserve.
You never heard that one?
Somebody mentioned that to me recently.
I'm not saying it's true or anything like that.
luke rudkowski
There's a lot of different theories out there.
I remember hearing something about it.
tim pool
They all met on Jekyll Island and then were like, How can we control the American people and not have them realize it?
ian crossland
Yeah, even Ron Paul was like, we just need to audit the Federal Reserve.
Repealing it is too extreme.
Let's just audit them.
And they were like, no, we're not.
luke rudkowski
Let's look at the balance books.
We can't even do that.
ian crossland
So we'd start with an audit.
If it was corrupt, then we would have grounds for repeal or something.
Yeah, when we find out.
tim pool
After the audit is done and we confirm what we already know.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Gareth Green says, Jack, Jesus was no longer dead when he ascended.
He resurrected first.
jack murphy
See, I told you, I have a lot to learn.
tim pool
But I still think your point made sense.
He was rising, you know, he was rising, he's floating in the sky.
jack murphy
Yes.
Thank you for that correction and peace be with you.
tim pool
Toby May says, if only Trump had stuck it to the establishment further.
Sure, he'd get convicted by the Senate and he won't be able to run in 2024, but he would be a martyr and a kingmaker without equal.
Populism needs a new leader now.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
I mean, he lost all of his popular support and he's going to be impeached anyway.
jack murphy
I think that that first statement is false.
He was impeached.
tim pool
He was already impeached.
He's going to be convicted anyway.
jack murphy
Yeah.
Lost popular support.
luke rudkowski
A lot of people wanted Assange pardoned.
A lot of people are disenfranchised and are extremely angry at him.
jack murphy
I agree.
I agree that there are a lot of people.
I don't think that he's lost his popular support.
There was just a poll out.
It's 51% approval rating.
luke rudkowski
After the pardons?
jack murphy
Not after Assange.
luke rudkowski
Let's see after because I would disagree with you.
jack murphy
I would speculate, though, that that might be some sort of bias that we have from dealing with people that that were willing to make a shift and were willing to talk to deal with Trump, who also think about journals.
I think if you pull the average American voter on Julian Assange, they would draw a stone cold blank.
ian crossland
For me, I didn't like him before, but now I actively dislike him.
I would campaign to make sure he doesn't get into office again after the way he treated us the last week.
jack murphy
Trump, you're talking about?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, Trump.
I'm talking about the way his supporters were just totally disenfranchised, the few people.
I think there's a large base that even if it wasn't for Assange, they're left holding a family-friendly show.
You know the reference I'm trying to make here, but they're screwed over and I believe his support went down dramatically.
Not just because of Assange, but a lot of other coalescing.
jack murphy
From November 3rd onwards, basically.
I agree with that, mostly.
tim pool
Oh, here's an interesting super chat.
Dartz said, Tim, same time you had a weird outage, I did as well.
I'm in Alberta.
unidentified
Huh.
tim pool
Ooh, what if it wasn't us?
Wasn't there recently like a major outage that hit?
unidentified
I think so, yeah.
tim pool
Like CBS went down?
lydia smith
Yes, there were a bunch of news networks that went down.
tim pool
Yeah, a bunch of networks went down.
lydia smith
That's crazy.
tim pool
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
In Star Trek Deep Space Nine, there's a scene where Dukat tells Weyoun that the
truest victory is making your enemy admit they were wrong to oppose you in the
first place and only destroy them if necessary.
Certainly sounds familiar.
Yeah, that's right.
Trump's surrender is exactly what they wanted.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
They wanted him to go out in such a way that many of supporters would be left
holding an empty bag and be like, what?
jack murphy
Yeah.
But it's, it's, and that's the part where I feel.
but...
I know it's stupid to say that the president betrayed me, but this is the part at which I feel and many people feel betrayed is that at the end, he could have done something, anything, certain pardons, certain positions, certain orders, certain attitude, just the right disposition on the way out the door instead of this, this really disappointing, sad spiral that's happened in the last month.
That's where the betrayal comes in, where he just quit and rolled over and just went away and pardoned a bunch of people that didn't deserve it and didn't pardon the people that did.
tim pool
He doesn't want to give up his luxury, man.
jack murphy
What's that?
tim pool
He doesn't want to give up his luxury.
lydia smith
Self-centered.
unidentified
Ah, yeah.
tim pool
He's too old.
All right, we got a great one here from Michelle Therese.
Not since Caesar Caligula tried to appoint his horse to the Roman Senate has there been such an egregious and unwarranted appointment of power to any one person in the U.S.
Kamala would be worse.
That's amazing.
Raymond Fields says my doomed side is going bananas right now.
I want this country and president to succeed, but Trump was the only one stopping the corrupt politicians.
We are effed.
ian crossland
He wasn't, though.
He was a corrupt politician.
tim pool
I don't agree.
ian crossland
He's terrible.
Made all his friends rich.
luke rudkowski
It's not the same.
tim pool
It's not the same.
A rampaging bull sure, you know, I think there's issues with with Trump He did some things like when he when he was advertising his golf resort on the State Department website When he had the military staying at his resort and his family all like part of the I don't care about it.
That's disgusting That's why nepotism you don't do that and Joe Biden's qualified his son on Air Force just trusting nepotism No, no, bro.
ian crossland
Absolutely corrupt.
tim pool
Donald Trump doing stupid things as a bull rampaging through the ivory tower, I don't care about.
ian crossland
Jared Kushner elevated to some level of quality.
tim pool
And Jared Kushner negotiated the Abraham Accords and got us serious peace in the Middle East.
ian crossland
I can't stand that guy.
tim pool
Joe Biden's son sat on the board of a corrupt company.
ian crossland
I'm not defending Joe Biden.
tim pool
You are defending him.
ian crossland
Trump's corrupt as hell, man.
tim pool
Why?
ian crossland
Because he put his family in office.
tim pool
What does that mean?
ian crossland
They didn't deserve it.
They were nobodies.
His daughter?
She was nothing, but yet she had this extreme amount of power in our government.
tim pool
What position did she have?
ian crossland
I don't know.
tim pool
I'm sorry, and you don't know?
ian crossland
I'll look it up.
tim pool
You put her in charge of some job.
Don't worry.
Don't assert something when you don't even know what her job was.
ian crossland
I don't commit this crap to memory every day, dude.
tim pool
You don't even know what she did.
ian crossland
I know that she was involved, though.
tim pool
It's just Trump derangement syndrome.
ian crossland
No, it's not just Trump derangement suits.
tim pool
You don't even know what her job was.
Do you know what Jared Kushner's official job was?
ian crossland
Yeah, he was like some diplomat to the Middle East or something.
His daughter's husband.
What was his job before Trump got into office?
tim pool
You're concerned about the fact that a politician hired their family.
ian crossland
He was a real estate developer and then he became our diplomat to the Middle East.
luke rudkowski
Well, his father had to be pardoned for some.
jack murphy
That's why.
Yes, that's how he got.
That's how Trump probably got him to work.
Same way he got Betsy DeVos to work promising that Blackwater pardons.
And did you notice that the minute that they got pardoned, she resigned like a day later?
That's why the pardons come so late in the administration.
unidentified
If they pardoned her day one, she would have been gone.
tim pool
Trump is a certain kind of corrupt, and I've explained this before, in that his business dealings were very self-centered, and there's nepotism, and what Trump was doing in the government was substantially different from the traditional corruption we have from these politicians, and I preferred it substantially.
I preferred it way more than what we get with Joe Biden and the rest of the people.
ian crossland
It's like, do you want his feces or his feces?
I don't want either of them, man.
He made her an advisor to the president.
He created a role just for her.
It's disgusting.
tim pool
For his family.
He hired his daughter.
unidentified
And?
ian crossland
And she didn't deserve the job.
She failed miserably to represent women.
They were like, hey Ivanka, a weekend.
Are you going to be a voice for women in this country?
And she was like, no.
tim pool
You're not even complaining about anything, bro.
ian crossland
I'm complaining that he made his family- She was advising her dad.
unidentified
So what?
ian crossland
I'm complaining that he put his family in positions of power.
tim pool
So what?
ian crossland
They didn't deserve the job.
They weren't qualified.
tim pool
How do you know that?
You didn't even know what her job was.
ian crossland
Because she didn't do anything!
tim pool
Has there been any other appointee who negotiated Middle Eastern peace deals?
ian crossland
In the history of appointees, what are you asking?
tim pool
Did Obama, his administration, get us new peace in the Middle East, or did he start new wars?
You're complaining about people.
ian crossland
This has nothing to do with Obama.
tim pool
We're talking about Trump's corruption.
What corruption?
He hired his family?
ian crossland
That's definitely a piece of corruption.
unidentified
Why?
ian crossland
Because he didn't hire qualified people.
He made a position for his daughter and his daughter's husband.
tim pool
You're not mad about anything.
ian crossland
I'm mad that he's nepotistic and you're telling me that I'm not allowed to, or I'm wrong to think that he's corrupt because he put his daughter in a special advisor role for the president?
unidentified
So what?
jack murphy
So what?
I'm not going to call this a kayfabe anymore.
ian crossland
So what's wrong with that?
What's wrong with... Well, it's nepotistic starting.
She didn't get the job because of her quality.
She got the job because she was his daughter.
tim pool
You don't know that.
ian crossland
Because he trusted her because she was family.
tim pool
It's like crazy, dude.
He trusted his daughter to advise him and he hired her.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
People can't hire their family?
unidentified
So what?
ian crossland
Doesn't she own like a multi-million dollar brand all over the world?
If you're not qualified, then you shouldn't.
tim pool
Doesn't she own like a multi-million dollar brand all over the world?
jack murphy
And he wasn't qualified to be president either, but the people put him there and gave him
the discretion to hire whomever he wanted.
So it was actually all the like...
tim pool
You're talking about someone saying, I don't trust the corporate crony lobbyist.
Trump hired a bunch of morons.
We always bring it up, John Bolton.
But hiring his daughter because he trusts her makes sense.
Hiring Goldman Sachs lobbyists is swamp corruption.
Trump is a different kind of corruption.
Trump is a different kind of bad.
But you know what?
You're comparing Donald Trump storming through the ivory tower with Joe Biden's 47-year Goldman Sachs- No, I'm not comparing him to Joe Biden.
ian crossland
I never compared him to anybody.
I'm talking about his corrupt behavior.
His lies.
What?
tim pool
What do you lie about?
ian crossland
Oh, let's see.
He did drone strikes and he made them secret.
unidentified
One of the most absolutely horrific things you could do to us.
ian crossland
He expanded our drone war and gave power to the generals to commit the drone strikes and said you don't have to tell people when you do it.
tim pool
You mean Barack Obama ramped that up.
ian crossland
Trump did that.
tim pool
Trump didn't start the drone wars.
ian crossland
No, he expanded them.
tim pool
No, he inherited those.
And Trump did a lot of things wrong.
And Trump is problematic.
But I don't think you're actually complaining about anything.
And I don't think you actually know what you're talking about.
jack murphy
I'm getting DMs from people all over the place.
ian crossland
People are going nuts right now.
luke rudkowski
Well, clearly you guys didn't take your ashwagandha.
ian crossland
I think it's been building all episode because it's just a hard one to listen to.
tim pool
Ian, I think you often complain about Trump.
ian crossland
I'm complaining about him making his kids in these position of power.
We didn't vote for his kids.
tim pool
That doesn't mean anything.
luke rudkowski
Are there other superchats?
tim pool
So it's like, I'm going to complain about the fact the Federal Reserve prints money and then we can't account for it.
I'm going to complain about the fact that Goldman Sachs lobbyists praise the conflict in the South Pacific and praise China.
I'm going to complain about direct things.
You're like, I don't like his daughter!
ian crossland
I don't care!
He made Jared Kushner a real estate developer, or advisor of the Middle East, because he's his daughter's husband.
tim pool
So what?
ian crossland
So he wasn't qualified!
tim pool
That's wrong.
ian crossland
It's not right or wrong.
tim pool
Did Jared Kushner negotiate the Abraham Accords?
jack murphy
Indeed, I believe he did.
tim pool
Is that historic precedent that's really changing the game in the Middle East?
jack murphy
Indeed, I would say it is.
luke rudkowski
But when we look at the military-industrial complex, when we look at the banking institutions, they made money hand over fist with Trump.
Not much changed in that aspect, so we've got to bring that up as well.
tim pool
The issue I have is comparing Goldman Sachs lobbyists to Trump hiring his daughter.
Ivanka Trump is nowhere near as awful as these insidious slimes that have been occupying our government for decades.
unidentified
I'm not comparing.
tim pool
I'm not saying he's less or more corrupt.
ian crossland
I'm saying he is extremely corrupt.
tim pool
Extremely corrupt compared to what?
ian crossland
Dude, Joe Biden's extremely corrupt too.
tim pool
Joe Bi- Trump's got- Compared to Ron Paul.
Trump's got nothing on Joe Biden.
Trump's got private sector BS and Joe Biden has manipulated and exploited this country for decades.
Donald Trump built a bunch of golden toilets.
Donald Trump did a TV show where he fired people.
ian crossland
They're both trash, dude.
I agree with you.
tim pool
Yeah, sure.
Donald Trump's bad moral character.
He is everything that's wrong with our culture.
And Joe Biden is everything wrong with our government.
And I do not like what Joe Biden represents.
Donald Trump building a golden toilet and putting his name on a building is meaningless to me.
Donald Trump saying my daughter should advise me.
I don't care.
Joe Biden saying, I'm going to bring in a guy who's going to praise China's militaristic endeavors in Taiwan is horrifying.
Donald Trump being a bumbling buffoon is meaningless to me.
ian crossland
He's not a bumbling buffoon, dude.
He did that stuff on purpose.
tim pool
What stuff?
Hiring his daughter?
ian crossland
Yeah, and his daughter's husband.
tim pool
I will read some more Super Chats, but good chat.
Uh, Jelani Williams says, Tim & Co, how much you want to bet when the establishment ebbs... I'm not gonna read, I can't read that.
jack murphy
Who's getting ebbstined?
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no.
Andrew Lantz says, flat tax defense.
If everyone paid 10% income tax and there was no deductions, would you support?
What if it resulted in more tax revenue?
The IRS is the KGP.
I don't know about that last part.
Uh, I'm not a fan of the flat tax.
Because people who have tons of money can use that money.
It's like I was saying, there was a Harvard study that found several years ago, it was almost like 10 years ago now, that you needed $77,000 for a standard American middle-class life.
Two weeks vacation, new clothes, going to the dentist, having health care.
If that's all you make a year, $77,000, you can't invest in anything you can't expand.
Let's say you make $150,000.
You now have an additional $80,000 or so, or $73,000 or so, where you can invest in things and start a business and grow your wealth.
Let's say you make $10,000,000.
You only need $77,000 to cover your basic needs.
Well, now you've got nearly $10,000,000 still to buy property, to expand, to make money.
So a flat tax, I don't agree with because 10% of a million dollars leaves you with $9,000,000.
I don't support progressive redistribution of wealth and resources in this manner.
unidentified
Just FYI.
tim pool
to influence our political system.
So when I see things like Mackenzie Bezos taking, you know, $2 billion
and putting it all into critical race theory, I'm like, wow, that's really, really bad for our country.
And that's what's happening when you have unchecked wealth.
jack murphy
I don't support progressive distribution, redistribution of wealth and resources
in this manner, just FYI.
luke rudkowski
You know what my favorite tax is?
No tax.
Thank you.
So what do you do when... You don't bankroll the federal government to this large centralized force.
tim pool
That's totally different.
luke rudkowski
And previously before, I mean, before the income tax, everything ran normally through local taxes, local jurisdictions deciding how much they're going to spend for the roads, how much they're going to tax whatever gas.
tim pool
And so how do you stop Mackenzie Bezos from spending $2 billion in critical race theory?
jack murphy
Why should that even be a thing?
tim pool
Jack, are you fighting critical race theory?
jack murphy
Well, yeah, in my own way.
tim pool
You have nothing compared to Mackenzie Bezos.
jack murphy
I know, I know.
But if I had that money and she somehow earned it through her marriage and agreement and contract with Jeff Bezos, I mean, dude, it's hers.
tim pool
Do you think it's right that our government should be predominantly controlled by those who have money?
The more money you have, the more say you get in how our culture is dictated.
jack murphy
I agree that it is disproportionate that the power that the rich people have to keep themselves rich and to keep the poor people poor.
And I do understand how you can see using progressive taxes to redistribute wealth, but we just also talked about how progressive tax keeps people down.
It keeps people down.
It establishes and maintains wealth and caste systems.
Economic caste systems.
tim pool
The issue is the government gets the money being the problem.
I don't like the idea that there will come a point where we will have an oligopoly.
Where you will have someone who is just so wealthy that they can snap their fingers.
You can complain about the Koch brothers.
You can complain about George Soros.
I think it's all bad.
I think we've seen studies that show popular opinion has zero impact on legislation, and it's actually wealth and lobbying that dictates whether bills get passed.
jack murphy
Sure.
tim pool
So there's no government for, by, and of the people anymore, not for a long time.
Citibank put out a report, I think it was 10 years ago, about the plutonomy, about how the United States is no longer a democracy.
It's a plutonomy of the wealthiest dictating what policies get passed.
jack murphy
Definitely.
Been like that for a while.
tim pool
I don't know what the solution is.
ian crossland
Well, I think it's, you gotta get, I mean, obviously, what I think it is, is that you gotta get representatives out of office and allow the district to represent itself.
Because individual representatives, you can bribe them.
But if you have a whole community of people functioning as a yay or nay vote together, you can't bribe the community.
Or if you did, it really wouldn't, you know, you'd notice it, and it would take a lot of money, and maybe it would be good for the community.
tim pool
I'm gonna read the super chat, and I believe it- I think it's a compliment.
Stan says, Ian is the Timcast IRL version of The Five's Juan Williams.
lydia smith
Yeah, I like that.
tim pool
I've heard that a lot.
Have you?
ian crossland
But then, she followed up with, I can't stan Juan Williams.
He doesn't know what he's talking about.
I've never- I don't really know who he is.
tim pool
Oh, I think- I don't like- I like Juan Williams.
I disagree with him.
And I'm really glad The Five has him on the show.
jack murphy
I don't even know what The Five is.
tim pool
It's five Fox News hosts, like Jesse Watters, Juan Williams, Greg Gutfeld, and a couple other people.
ian crossland
He, like, is the least educated and, like, speaks with passion and conviction.
Is that what you think?
Yeah, that's the vibe that I'm getting from when I see that comment.
tim pool
Well, I mean, no, no.
Juan Williams is... he, like, follows mainstream media leftist narratives.
ian crossland
And Jesse Watters... Yeah, I bring the leftist narrative to the show really hard.
I have to counter it, otherwise we just all agree all the time.
tim pool
That's why you're here.
But I also we can yell at each other.
jack murphy
At least I didn't say he's the conservative chick on the view.
unidentified
All right.
Let's see.
We got a lot.
tim pool
So there's a lot of comments now about that discussion.
Gareth Green says, For advisors, trust is as important as a qualification.
I say this as a rich kid.
The whole idea that we need the most qualified officials is implicitly statist and authoritarian.
Well, it's interesting.
A lot of people on the left were saying Trump's not qualified to be president.
And then Trump supporters said the only qualifications are that you'd be born in America and you're at least 35 years old.
And that anybody can be president.
I say the same thing about AOC.
People mock her for being a bartender.
I'm like, that's cool.
It's like the coolest part of her story is that she was a bartender who got into Congress and challenged the system.
The real issue is that she's a careerist who's trying to build followers.
But I like the bartender portion.
I love the idea that in America, you can be a bartender and go to Congress and give a middle finger.
ian crossland
You could be homeless and become president.
tim pool
Wasn't Cori Bush homeless?
ian crossland
I don't know.
luke rudkowski
I can't become president.
ian crossland
Really?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I wasn't born in the United States.
ian crossland
I don't like this born in the United States thing.
jack murphy
I knew there was something weird about you.
luke rudkowski
That's the only thing?
tim pool
Nativist!
ian crossland
Like, this is the land of opportunity.
If the person that's the most, that cares the most, that could do the most good wasn't born here, so what?
Why don't we still, like, empower them to become president?
tim pool
They're all mad at you, Ian.
jack murphy
That's the whole point of having a country, bro.
ian crossland
Bring it on.
Give me a good criticism.
jack murphy
I mean, I'm getting texts and DMs in Instagram, Twitter, text messages, Wicker, all people talking about this.
ian crossland
Fix his mind!
jack murphy
Yeah, healthy it, healthy it.
tim pool
Wojciech says, Ian, what makes you qualified?
ian crossland
I didn't say I was.
tim pool
Ian, you aren't qualified to call out Trump on things.
ian crossland
Well, that I disagree with.
tim pool
Wow, I thought you weren't brainwashed by the left.
ian crossland
No, it's not a political, it's not a partisan thing.
I just, I mean, he...
I've been following Trump for a long time, since he said that Obama wasn't born in the United States.
tim pool
Ratchet it up, though.
has a lot of dumb stuff. Superman, if it wasn't scared of Green Rock, says,
as someone who served in the Middle East, Ian, Jared Kushner was qualified enough
to get the job done. More of my friends don't have to die, so even if you got the
job through nepotism, he got it done.
ian crossland
Did you say that his dad got pardoned by Trump, Luke?
tim pool
Yeah.
That was recently, though, right?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, that was recent.
ian crossland
So what was his dad's thing?
jack murphy
Something really crappy.
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
Do you want to, Jack?
jack murphy
Yeah, I mean, I think I have it.
He, like, hired someone to seduce his sister's husband or something and then blackmailed.
I think it's something along those lines.
luke rudkowski
It's really seedy stuff.
I don't remember the exact details.
jack murphy
It's along those lines, right?
luke rudkowski
I remember hearing about it being like, whoa.
ian crossland
It wasn't Jared.
It was his dad.
jack murphy
It was his dad, yeah.
ian crossland
Sons of the father.
tim pool
Um, I just want to, I just want to make sure, um, we didn't have a whoosh moment and point out there are predator drones that someone mentioned a super chat on the cover of the Jacobin magazine.
And I wonder if this is entirely meant to be tongue in cheek and mocking the left and not supporting it.
It is Jacobin, but I'm sorry.
It looks too much like they're supporting it.
lydia smith
You want to click it and zoom in?
tim pool
No, there's Predator drones up on top and like, you know, Obama with angel wings or whatever, whatever.
ian crossland
Yeah.
jack murphy
It is possible.
It was just too, it was just too pitch perfect.
tim pool
I think that's the issue is that, uh, We expect it too much from what the media's been producing, you know?
lydia smith
It's like satirical news.
tim pool
Unless they really support the Predator drones.
Which I kind of know.
I've given some props to Jacobin when they defended free speech, so maybe we just whooshed on that one.
jack murphy
I don't know.
tim pool
And they're all making fun of us now.
Look, they're so dumb they believed it was real.
unidentified
That's possible.
tim pool
Maybe.
But I think that, what is it, Poe's Law?
Is that what it was?
jack murphy
Yeah.
tim pool
That you have to explain the satire if it's not, you know, explicit.
Or, you know.
That's just on us then.
If that's true, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.
jack murphy
It plays into our worst expectations of the left and it plays into the highest and best slash worst expectations people have on the left of the left itself.
So in that respect, great art.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
Let's see.
Wojciech asks, Tim, please give an answer on a yearly membership.
I'd rather pay $300 upfront than $25 a month.
I don't think we can do that.
I don't know if PayPal has the functionality for something like that.
I don't know.
Maybe it does.
We'll look into it.
We'll check it out, because that's, you know, good on our end, too.
People, like, paying for a full year is, like, way better than crossing our fingers and hoping people don't cancel.
But you can go to TimCast.com and become a member.
Check out our bonus segments, which we will probably have one tonight.
Gareth Green says, in a laissez-faire economy, the corporate influence on the government would not exist, because the government would not have the power to dispense favors.
Wanting the government to make people's lives better is stateism 101.
Interesting.
Alright, we'll just do one more here.
Well, there's a quick one.
Andrew Smith says, Ian's the chaotic neutral of IRL.
ian crossland
Sometimes I think I'm chaotic good, but lately I've been drawn towards evil, just because I have to listen to it every day.
tim pool
You want to watch the world burn?
ian crossland
No, I don't want to.
I want to make the world better.
I don't even think of myself as chaotic, but I've become more chaotic lately, too.
tim pool
Last, last one.
LastGal says, Ian, your comment about Ivanka and Kushner, terribly misguided.
Every president has advisors.
Michelle and Hillary, for example.
The difference, uh, sex equals power.
ian crossland
It's disturbing to me that people wouldn't realize the danger of nepotism.
That making your family in positions of power because they're your family and not because they're the best people in the world to pick is, it's been, it happened in ancient times and it would destroy kingdoms when you would make your incompetent brother in charge.
tim pool
Yeah, but that's if, like, he appointed Jared Kushner to the Supreme Court or something.
Not asking him to advise him on matters in the Middle East.
ian crossland
I don't think it has to be that extreme.
tim pool
They're cabinet members.
ian crossland
He put those people in massive positions of power politically.
jack murphy
He did not make them Secretary of State or head of the Defense Department.
ian crossland
You're a significant other?
unidentified
Okay, I get it.
That's new. It was a set new row. He created a special position for her advisors. Bill
jack murphy
Clinton hired his wife, who had no experience at the time to read to redo all of your significant
ian crossland
other. Okay, I get it. What? They're part of your company is what they call him the
jack murphy
Okay, you lost it.
You lost it.
ian crossland
Your children?
jack murphy
You had me there.
They better be good at what they're doing.
ian crossland
What did Ivanka Trump do before she became advisor to the president?
jack murphy
Nepotism is bad in the UK unless it's your wife.
ian crossland
What was her job?
Did she even have a job before that?
tim pool
Yeah, she runs massive multinational brands and makes billions of dollars.
ian crossland
She runs companies.
Now she's an advisor to the president.
tim pool
Makes sense.
ian crossland
Jared Kushner, real estate guy.
Advisor to the Middle East.
You guys gotta see that this is, it's not normal politically.
jack murphy
It's perfectly normal.
That's what we're trying to tell you.
ian crossland
No, it's not.
To make your children in positions of power because they're your children is not normal.
jack murphy
No, it is normal.
ian crossland
No, it's not.
It's called nepotism.
jack murphy
We just cited a number of instances in history.
tim pool
What you don't understand is that advising the president is just who they trust.
People hire advisors that were like, I hired an advisor, whatever.
ian crossland
Did she have security clearance?
tim pool
I don't know.
Didn't Jared Kushner not get it?
ian crossland
He got stripped of it in February.
tim pool
There's a difference between if he made them Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, high-ranking cabinet positions.
ian crossland
So yes, Jared Kushner had security clearance.
tim pool
And he negotiated the Abraham Accords.
So it worked out right.
luke rudkowski
Negotiated weapons deals for Saudi Arabia.
ian crossland
He was the guy who negotiated the weapons deals?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, for Saudi Arabia.
And he gave them a better deal.
So he made sure that we serve America.
And Ivanka Trump is the one who cried according to Donald Trump's son and got Donald Trump to bomb Syria when Donald Trump attacked Syria.
That's according to Donald Trump's own son.
So there is an argument to make here.
But if we're going to criticize Trump, let's talk about Yemen, if we want to go there.
But I don't want to start a whole conversation.
But there are some legitimate criticisms.
tim pool
We will.
We're going to go nuts.
Oh, goodness.
luke rudkowski
Come on.
Take your ashwagandha.
tim pool
We're wrapping up.
Thanks for hanging out, everybody.
We'll save it for a bonus segment where we're gonna go screaming at the top of our lungs and swearing and saying all the words we can't say.
luke rudkowski
I'm not, I'm gonna meditate after this.
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jack murphy
Indeed.
ian crossland
Hey, everyone.
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You can follow me online at Ian Crossland.
Thanks for putting up with this intense intensity tonight.
Thank you.
unidentified
Thank you.
tim pool
Don't break the mic.
ian crossland
Thank you, Tim.
Thank you, Jack.
jack murphy
You know, I constantly am trying to explain to people that I think that the conflict here is a little bit of kayfabe, but after tonight, I'm definitely never saying that.
ian crossland
What's kayfabe?
jack murphy
Kayfabe, it's like in wrestling where you have like the heel and the face.
You've got like the good guy and the bad guy and they come up with a storyline to fight.
Did you draw?
unidentified
No.
jack murphy
Oh, I used to think it was Kayfabe.
But now I know.
unidentified
You know, I'm coming at you, Jack.
tim pool
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jack murphy
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luke rudkowski
it should be up later tonight Trump did not bring peace in the Middle East
tim pool
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