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Nov. 14, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Youtube DELETED Our Alex Jones Episode
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ian crossland
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richie mcginniss
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tim pool
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lydia smith
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unidentified
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you Hello everyone.
tim pool
Welcome to the TimCast IRL podcast brought to you by satellite because our internet went out.
It happens.
But the good news is a bunch of dudes show up and start digging holes all over the ground because they were putting cables in the ground because we are very close to getting gigabit internet and when we do we're gonna stream in like 8k for no reason just because we can.
No, I don't know if my computer can handle that.
But in other news, YouTube deleted the podcast last night with Alex Jones and Michael Malice for a community guidelines violation because of things Alex Jones said.
It was one thing, but I think it came up in a couple different instances.
And so it's gone.
And all the clips and we are, I'm currently talking with Google to figure out what we need to do to make it good to appear on YouTube and they're gonna get back to me when they get back to me because they deleted it and we got lucky we didn't get a guideline strike.
I say lucky, but it's kind of ridiculous, you know, when it comes to Alex Jones, they are just sitting there waiting with their finger over the button, and then he makes, he says one thing, and boom, they nuke the show.
So that was a, you know, we had, I think, a total of live viewership was over a million, it was like 1.3 million, and then actual views on the podcast itself from people who watched it was over a million as well, so it was a really, I think it was our biggest show, most concurrence, most views.
But, uh, you know, it's Alex Jones, so they got rid of it.
So we got a bunch of stuff to talk about, and we'll talk a bit about censorship and all that stuff, and, um, hopefully—I mean, it's actually really cool, we're—so I have a—we have backup internet that's satellite, and it's not very good, but it appears to be working fairly well, and at a certain point, we're gonna try and test our hardline internet again to see if it works, and if we do, then we'll switch back, but, uh, Whatever, man.
You know what?
We're chilling.
That's about it.
Because yesterday was crazy.
I was up way late.
People were yelling at me.
Oh my word.
And then they got deleted.
But anyway, I'm hanging out with some people.
But you guys can introduce yourselves.
richie mcginniss
I'm up first.
I'm Richie McGinnis.
At Richie McGinnis on Twitter.
R-I-C-H-I-E-M-C-G-I-N-N-I-S-S.
And I'm the Chief Video Director at The Daily Caller.
tim pool
So you film riots?
richie mcginniss
Yes, we've been filming a lot of riots recently, given that it's been a blind spot in the corporate media's coverage.
So we've done a lot of that recently.
unidentified
I don't necessarily enjoy it, but what are you going to do?
richie mcginniss
Job's a job.
tim pool
Good to meet you.
richie mcginniss
Oh, hey, how you doing, buddy?
unidentified
I'm great.
But for those of you who don't know me, my name is Kalen Delmeda.
I'm a co-founder of Scriber News, Scriber Media at large.
But what I do also is very similar to what Richie does.
I've been covering riots, and like Richie said, they've been blind in the media.
And you can follow me at Twitter, or on Twitter, F-R-O-M-K-A-L-E-N, or you can follow Scriber News, S-C-R-I-B-E-R-R.
News on Instagram, all the places you would normally be on social media.
tim pool
You can put the plasma ball back.
ian crossland
I'm Alex Jones!
I'm gonna tell ya!
Alright, I'm putting the plasma ball back.
lydia smith
I like your Alex Jones-y, that's nice.
tim pool
So we, uh, we have, yeah, we, we, Ian's got, Ian's got, Ian's got, yeah, we unplugged a bunch of stuff.
We're trying to get the internet to work.
Long story short, Ian's got a plasma ball.
He's going to plug it in.
lydia smith
That's pretty cool.
tim pool
But, uh, you know, we're chilling.
Censorship is a big deal.
And, uh, very obviously it's kind of crazy that last night, what, you know, you know what, what I think is, I'm just going to say this, let me slow down.
Alex Jones is such a high target because everybody, for some reason wanting, they want to know what he thinks about stuff.
And when I say for some reason, I'm not saying I'm confused, but I'm saying it's like for the things he's done, for the things he's said, for the show he's built over these, you know, almost three decades now, he gets all of the scrutiny in the world for being as high profile as he is.
So there's tons of people who get banned for no reason, people who are not high profile, but there are a lot of mid-sized people, especially people on the left, who don't get banned at all and say crazy things.
So I'd be willing to bet if I brought in a leftist who said similar things to Alex Jones, nobody would care.
lydia smith
Absolutely not.
tim pool
But you know what it probably was?
It probably wasn't just about what he said.
It was about, we probably had a bunch of activists sitting there waiting and pressing flag and report and whatever.
And now the video's gone.
It's gone.
But it is on BitChute.
So if you guys know what BitChute is, if you go to the TimCast IRL channel on BitChute, it still exists.
Because we have contingencies upon contingencies.
We'll see if we can get it back on YouTube.
Not that I think it matters.
I think everyone will just watch it on BitChute.
ian crossland
I gotta say too, that show was so freaking fun.
lydia smith
It was so fun.
ian crossland
I got to watch it halfway through.
I was like, I don't even need to say anything, man.
I just watched you guys go to town.
tim pool
It was Michael and Alex.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
ian crossland
What geniuses.
Like, next level.
lydia smith
Seriously, super fun.
Wow, that was awesome.
tim pool
Well, there it is.
How about, well, so that's it.
I wanted to address that because, you know, I think it was a few hours ago we got the notification.
lydia smith
Yeah, it was not long ago.
tim pool
It was like, you have violated the community guidelines.
This is a warning.
And so the issue is, I've had a bunch of people be like, yo, take out these portions, put them right back up.
And I'm like, if we don't know exactly where they're coming at us for this podcast, and I have a general idea, if we get a hard strike, we can't do the show at all for two weeks.
So it's like...
I like doing this show.
I don't know.
take a two-week vacation, you know? Or do we say, okay, I reached out to Google, I said,
let me know exactly what we need to do and what in this, because I was already told,
this is important news, I was already told by Google, you are allowed to interview Alex
Jones and have him on your show and talk about whatever. He's just not allowed to do his
own show. So then I said, after they took it down, tell me what in this we need to snip,
because apparently it's like tiny passive comments that weren't even part of the larger
You just said some stupid things or whatever, and they're like, aha!
We got you!
So now it's gone.
ian crossland
I was thinking we should upload the full show onto Mines, because I know you'd said that- It's on BitChute.
It's already on BitChute, but we should just proliferate the thing.
You had said, like, they can bust you for doing something off-platform.
Right.
tim pool
Off-platform behavior.
ian crossland
When it comes to like Sargon, who actually got busted for that, The guy that interviewed him didn't get busted.
So if Alex did something off-platform, it wouldn't affect us.
tim pool
That's the BS thing.
They gave me a warning because of something he said, but they told me I could interview him.
Now I'm responsible for what a person being interviewed says.
Or it was a long-form conversation discussion.
What am I supposed to do?
Just tell me I can't interview people, you know what I mean?
That's, that's, that's... I understand, like, you know, if we were live and they were like, yo, he said this thing, because when you're live, you can take something out, I guess.
ian crossland
I wish they would strike the clip, like give you a little timestamp and then unlist the video and send you a message and be like... Or just snip 10 seconds.
richie mcginniss
Yeah, that's what they do with copyright.
Like, if you make a copyright infringement on YouTube, it'll tell you the specific portion of the clip.
lydia smith
That would be helpful.
tim pool
Yeah.
We had a three-hour and, like, 45-minute podcast, and they were like, at this one point, you're gone.
lydia smith
Whole thing's gone.
tim pool
So I was like, is that it?
Because I'll take that out and put it right back up.
And they were like, we'll get back to you.
And I'm like, uh-huh.
Because there may have been some other things, whatever, I don't know.
But I knew, I said it was gonna happen, I kept, how many times did I say in that show?
We're getting banned.
That's it, we're banned now.
ian crossland
Three plus.
tim pool
Three plus?
I'm like, oh, we are so banned.
unidentified
So if you get banned, where are you going?
tim pool
Sleep.
unidentified
We're going to sleep.
richie mcginniss
Dirt nap.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's right.
tim pool
No, like legit.
We got this, you guys can't see it, but there's a massive seven foot beanbag, right, just chilling.
ian crossland
Oh, it's so nice.
unidentified
It is nice.
ian crossland
Can I turn the camera and show?
tim pool
If you want.
Yeah, let's try it.
unidentified
The giant beanbag just sitting there.
tim pool
And so what I'm saying is, I would just, I'd just lay down in the beanbag.
unidentified
Should we run over there and lay on it?
This is a nice big room.
richie mcginniss
You want to jump on?
unidentified
Yeah, let's go.
Come on.
lydia smith
All right, here we go.
unidentified
Yeah, buddy.
richie mcginniss
Here's K.
lydia smith
Yeah, buddy.
unidentified
Don't be shy now.
tim pool
Whoo.
This was what Ian's doing.
This was part of the plan of what we're going to do for election night.
But yeah, it's not, you know, but we did add the new the new desk.
And so Ian can chill and then, you know, I love it.
Yeah, but we do have some serious stuff to talk about, so hey.
There you go, there's censorship.
I'll just add real quick, because we'll probably come back to censorship stuff.
Twitter said they labeled 300,000 posts.
That's the craziest thing.
Have you guys seen this new meme that's coming out of this?
The flagging they're doing?
It's like the Babylon Bee did an article.
And it's Harry Potter's Twitter account.
And he says, he's back!
Voldemort is back!
And then under it it says, this claim about Voldemort has been disputed.
Click here to see why Hogwarts is very safe and secure.
There's a bunch of stuff like that.
richie mcginniss
I saw the Paul Revere one.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
The British are coming.
This is disputed.
richie mcginniss
Click here to see why the British taxes are a good thing.
unidentified
Oh, no.
I saw the Titanic one.
The iceberg.
The Titanic is totally safe.
tim pool
There's a bunch of them.
It's great.
Could you imagine?
It's insane.
So, anyway.
That brings me to, I guess, the bigger conversation, but for the most part, we are having a post-Alex Jones episode chill-out session.
I had a bunch of people hit me up, and they're like, you did a good job, man.
I could see the look in your face.
And I was like, uh-huh.
ian crossland
It was like a circus ringmaster where all the animals got free.
unidentified
But I don't know, okay, because I don't know, but you actually talked to YouTube and said, can I have this guest on even though every big tech company hates this guy?
tim pool
I didn't say it like that when I talked to him, but I did reach out to Google and said, are there any considerations for me when I interview Alex Jones?
Basically, I was kind of like, I'm going to interview this guy.
What's the deal?
And they said, there's no issues at all.
None whatsoever.
Alex Jones can appear on anyone's channel.
He just can't have a channel of his own.
And I was like, fantastic.
All right, good.
Because if they had said something like, we're concerned that he might say something like this, I could have been like, yo, make sure you don't.
I'm not referring to news items.
I'm referring to behavioral things, like calls to action of sorts, which is essentially what got us flagged.
He had said something that he wanted to happen, and I don't want to repeat it because they'll come after this show too.
Because they're on edge.
But he said he wanted to see something happen to somebody, to put it mildly.
And they were like, we got you!
lydia smith
So it was a little bit like what Steve Bannon said.
unidentified
I don't know if you saw.
lydia smith
Right, exactly.
He got totally banned for what he said about Fauci, I think it was.
Yeah, something about Fauci's head.
ian crossland
Did he actually get banned?
His whole channel got permabanned?
tim pool
And on Twitter and YouTube, he's gone.
unidentified
I think it was YouTube, too.
I didn't know he existed on anywhere until just recently.
tim pool
Did you guys hear what Fauci just said?
unidentified
Yes!
tim pool
He said, the US has an independent spirit, but it's time to do what you're told.
lydia smith
Oh, not okay.
tim pool
That's it.
I'm doing the opposite.
lydia smith
Yep, I'm doing the opposite.
tim pool
It's America.
ian crossland
It's like a bad parent.
tim pool
Do what you're told.
unidentified
Do it.
ian crossland
Why?
Because I said so.
lydia smith
I can't believe you said that.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
lydia smith
Yeah, I don't think so.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Not about that.
unidentified
What do I get in return?
lydia smith
Absolutely nothing.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
richie mcginniss
You survive.
ian crossland
In regards to Alex getting banned, just his person getting banned, I don't like it because I feel like if a criminal posts, is a criminal, and they're off social media, and they decide to post something legal, that's like a step towards redemption.
lydia smith
Right.
It should be, but it's not.
tim pool
Look at this.
lydia smith
What are we looking at?
Oh, what are we looking at?
Oh, snap.
tim pool
Dr. Fauci tells Americans do what you are told.
lydia smith
Oh, you don't tell Americans that.
tim pool
We have a constitution for a reason.
You know what?
I love how hard the constitution makes it for these despots to gain power.
Wonderful document, I tell you what.
Yeah.
Anyway, you were saying about Alex Jones being banned?
ian crossland
I've tried, when I'm working at Mines, I tend towards like, okay, if we ban an account because they violated the Terms of Service, I'm not gonna prevent the account owner from making a new account that doesn't violate, make a new account, and if the new account doesn't violate, that's good, that's a good thing.
tim pool
I think that's like a good standard, actually.
Because if you're someone like, you know, Alex Jones, and you have three million or whatever subscribers, and you break the rules, and they say, that's strike one, you break the rules again, strike two, you break the rules for a third time, they delete you, You gotta start from scratch.
And they say, hey, start over, congratulations, your account violated the rules.
You, as a person, can keep going.
And then, you know, you'll start up a brand new account, you've wrecked the rules again, then they delete that account too.
And then they're getting rid of the problem, but they're letting people, you know, have a chance.
ian crossland
That's what they used to do in 2008, for instance, Warren 25.
This great YouTuber, look him up, see if you can find any of his old stuff, he would rail against George Bush and scream and profane, and eventually just went over the edge, they banned Warren 25 account.
So he made Warren 25 smash.
And went crazy, and they was yelling and screaming.
And I think eventually they banned that.
But they never banned Philip from making accounts.
lydia smith
Right.
ian crossland
It's a weird new... Now it's a life sentence.
richie mcginniss
If anything, his banning probably helped his account, right?
When he came out with the new one, there was that many more people who were paying attention to him because he got banned.
tim pool
Usually, you lose a decent amount of people.
unidentified
You know, it's kind of like, is that the way we're going now?
Are we going like this weird dystopian black mirror thing where you have merits and you lose them and you, and you cease to exist and you can't, you can't do anything.
tim pool
It's going to be, here's, here's how I imagine the future, right?
In like two years, everyone's going to be wearing this like weird, like it's going to be a green and white kind of jumpsuit.
You know that, uh, what kind of material is it's going to be like a nice, it's like, it's like what mouse pads are made of.
ian crossland
Neoprene.
tim pool
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
But they're going to have anti-grav packs on their backs, and they're going to have white helmets with green visors, and they're going to be floating around, and they're going to have telekinesis.
richie mcginniss
In two years.
tim pool
In two years.
And then you are going to be banned from the network, and so you're going to be a regular guy, and you're going to be wearing a brown duster covered in holes and dirt, and you're going to be looking up at the people flying around, and you're going to be like, I used to be one of them!
And they're going to be eating awesome food, They're going to be like, well, it's a private business.
You shouldn't have gotten banned.
You're going to like try and go to the store, but the door is like 50 feet up, you know?
I'm kidding, obviously.
ian crossland
You know what they could do?
I'm thinking severely dystopian, but you could make clothing out of graphene and then make it like haptic feedback clothing.
Start with it on prisoners.
So if they get out of line, you just shock, shock them to hell or like knock them.
tim pool
Haptic feedback.
Yeah.
But no, no.
I mean, honestly, think about where we're going right now in terms of all the censorship stuff, because You don't own your iPhone.
Okay, well, you own the physical device, but you don't own the software.
unidentified
No, you can't modify it, you can't do anything to it.
tim pool
So, you could get banned from iOS, and then all of a sudden one day your phone is bricked.
You wanna know what the crazy thing is?
richie mcginniss
Or banks.
Banks are banning people.
unidentified
Oh, of course, of course.
richie mcginniss
PayPal?
tim pool
You wanna know what the scariest thing is, though?
People use Facebook and Google to log into other services.
If you get banned from Facebook and you use it as your login, you're banned from every single account.
And there's no way in.
A lot of these companies don't have customer services you can call.
If it's like Amazon or whatever, you'll find a way to get your account access or something.
But if it's using like a different web service that's linked to Facebook and use Facebook as your login, let's say you use an accounting service or whatever and you just like log in with Facebook, now you lose access to your accounting systems.
You got to like try and figure out how to get in.
unidentified
And they don't care.
Are they going to figure out a way for these people who lose account access to continue living their lives?
Or are they just going to say, well, screw you?
tim pool
Didn't you just hear what I said?
People are gonna be flying around in their neoprene... Is it neoprene?
unidentified
I thought we were imagining the future.
I thought that this was a session for them to draw ideas from Tim Pool.
He's the master.
tim pool
They're gonna take... You're gonna be standing there and you're gonna take a potato sack and snip two arm holes on the sides and a neck hole and you're gonna be wearing an old potato sack and they're gonna be flying around and laughing and giggling and you know...
richie mcginniss
You know what's interesting though is all of this that we're talking about right now, what's happening on these platforms, we met in Chaz actually.
unidentified
Oh yeah, that's right.
richie mcginniss
At the beginning of the summer.
And what happened there and what happened with a lot of these protest zones is it was like basically this kind of like utopian dream at the onset, you know?
But then they're like, Okay, well, how do we control the information that's coming out of here?
How do we make sure that no bad people come in?
And so they get security teams, and then they get people who make sure that the only good press is coming out of there.
And so actually, Caelan... That's such a dictatorship.
I mean, you were actually assaulted as a byproduct of you filming something that was unsavory in the Chaz.
tim pool
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
It wasn't even... Caelan, hold on.
Were you trying to undermine the revolution?
unidentified
The leader of the revolution.
Is that what it was?
Because it looked like some, you know, I don't know what it was.
Was it a revolution?
I'm not really sure, but they ended up losing territory.
You know what I mean?
They lost it.
But yeah, I was there.
I was filming something.
There wasn't even anything happening, but I was like preemptively filming.
richie mcginniss
And who are you filming?
unidentified
Raz Simone.
Raz Simone's hanging out.
He was like the quote warlord.
All this stuff's going on.
Nothing's really going on.
I was sitting there and I get cased.
richie mcginniss
But you were filming them?
On a public street.
unidentified
I was.
richie mcginniss
But it's not public because it's part of the Chats now.
unidentified
Yeah, it was part of the Chats.
tim pool
I think we gotta stop here.
You are falsely framing what actually happened.
You had entered into sovereign territory.
unidentified
Oh, that's right.
The new land of Chats.
tim pool
And you violated their borders, bringing in hate speech, and you tried to undermine their government.
That was a national security threat.
And so like any good You know, protectorate.
They made sure that the villains who illegal... I mean, you were an illegal immigrant, basically.
unidentified
How dare you?
tim pool
And they had to stop you from spreading slander.
And yes, and undermining the revolution.
How dare you?
richie mcginniss
But they had legit borders.
I mean, they had checkpoints that they were checking.
Everybody came in and it came to the point where once they realized who we were, they were basically radioing the Antifa security team.
And we were getting followed up.
unidentified
I want to say I did get attacked.
I did get attacked.
They sent a guy after me.
tim pool
They were defending themselves from your hate speech.
unidentified
Defund the Chaz belief.
I don't care about who it was.
I know who it was.
But the crazier part was that afterward, the guy that assaulted me was shot three times.
Oh, he was shot three times.
I think it was three times.
I could be wrong.
Yeah, a few days later, I go, but I remember afterward, I went back to the hotel, then I thought, if that guy keeps acting the way that he did, he's going to resurface.
I'm going to find out who he is.
Twitter went to town on him, found out who he was, matched up his, he posted a TikTok from the hospital after he got shot.
richie mcginniss
And was he like dancing?
unidentified
No, I mean, obviously, obviously, he's all he's all he was all, you know, I don't know what's that.
It's that.
What's the one where the guy is letting the Chinese government?
tim pool
You know, the meme where the dudes on the longboard drinking the.
unidentified
Yes.
Dreams, dreams.
tim pool
Was he playing that song?
unidentified
Well, he's got like, you know, he's drinking the apple juice from the cup, you know, the little tinfoil cup, you know?
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
In hospitals.
unidentified
Yeah.
No, but what was funny was that his friends or whoever they were afterward, they came, they attacked my social media and they kept commenting that I conspired to have him shot afterward.
It's like, dude, I don't even know who you are!
I literally could care less who you are.
I'm going to Washington DC because I have important things to do.
richie mcginniss
It's also funny, though, because I don't think people out there necessarily realize how amateurish this security operation was in the Chas.
Shelby and I went to interview one of the guys at the checkpoint, and number one, there was a lot of internal strife.
Not everybody thought Raz was the... They were like, who appointed him leader?
But this guy, I'm not even kidding, he had a needlepoint belt.
And from that belt was hanging a holster and in that holster was a 50 caliber Desert Eagle.
unidentified
No, there wasn't.
richie mcginniss
Yes, I swear to God, man.
unidentified
I'll take your word for it.
richie mcginniss
And as he was talking and gesturing, this thing was like swinging around and I was like, yo, like, can I just, the reason why this isn't on camera is because they asked us to stop filming.
unidentified
Okay.
richie mcginniss
I was like, yo, that's an interesting holster you have there.
Can you tell me about it?
And he's like, oh, this is a needle point belt.
I thought it looked pretty cool.
And yes, it's just holding my gun.
tim pool
My Desert Eagle?
richie mcginniss
I was like, what?
What is happening?
It's swinging around.
tim pool
Hey, wouldn't it be crazy if we had like, what is it?
A Smith & Wesson 500?
Is that what it's called?
unidentified
How big is that?
tim pool
Massive.
It's like, yeah, it's massive.
I was watching a video on YouTube.
Or like a magnum.
richie mcginniss
Like a nice, nice long barrel magnum.
tim pool
It's like the Joker's gun.
You know how the Joker had that revolver where he would, like, pull it out of his belt, but it was really long, and then he would, like... Yeah!
Yeah, it was, like, three feet long, the barrel.
I don't know if that made sense, but it was a comic book, so I guess a long barrel, you know.
richie mcginniss
There were all kinds of weapons in there, though.
tim pool
I mean, there were... Less recoil, I guess?
richie mcginniss
People had rifles, people had everything.
It was... Because it's open carry.
unidentified
Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.
I mean, um... But the other thing was, so...
Katie Davis Court and this guy named Maximus walked into the Chazz with the American flag and you know I don't I don't I don't know what their motives were with that but it caused obviously a large commotion and they got chased out all the way back to their car and one of these guys security guys in a Jeep with no license plate drives up behind to their car and he's taking down their license plates.
He's got a radio.
And we, it was George Ventura, Drew Hernandez, and May ran up to his car.
What are you doing?
Who do you work for?
What's going on?
Why are you taking his license plate?
And he quickly pulls his mask up and he says, well, I'm with the John Brown gun club.
And well, why, why are you taking the group?
richie mcginniss
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
richie mcginniss
And by the way, we got, that was right after that.
We, They left in their car and then Shelby, Jorge and I, who, because we work together, we were all staying in the same hotel.
We started walking away and I noticed that there was somebody following us.
So I said, OK, we got to, you know, we're going to double back down this alley.
We're going to and we're about three quarters of a mile away from three quarters.
Maybe a mile from the border of the Chaz, where our hotel was.
And there's another guy that we recognized from in there.
And we were like, holy shit.
Holy shnikes.
tim pool
Could you imagine how an American would feel?
You're sitting on the beach in California when this boat pulls up and a bunch of dudes jump out with Chinese flags and they're running through your neighborhood.
You'd be like, get out!
Get out of here!
What is this?
So these people come in, you know, it's an adversarial nation through the borders without, you know, showing their passports, bringing the flag of a foreign government.
And of course the citizens of Chaz were furious.
richie mcginniss
I'm half Italian, so you know, my ancestors probably arrived without papers anyway.
unidentified
You know what was interesting though?
When I got attacked, I ran out because the guy wouldn't let me go.
He grabbed the back of my jacket and he was striking me in the back of the head.
Give me your phone or I'm going to knock you out.
I didn't give him my phone, but there was a female who said, go to the medical tent.
When I finally got free, she said, go to the medical tent.
I ignored her advice and I ran out and I ran about a block and they sent three people after me.
to try to take me back for interrogation.
They said, you need to come back to the medical tent for interrogation.
tim pool
I'm like, this sounds really great.
I'm really looking forward to when these people have government control and power.
unidentified
The question is though, is that the answer to this crazy technocracy that's coming?
What?
This anarchist.
richie mcginniss
Make your own country.
unidentified
Make your own country.
Make your, and grow, you know, take over a city park and start growing crops.
tim pool
Bro, bro, the Lark Farm was not going to feed anyone.
unidentified
It was not growing anything.
tim pool
No way.
It was like, you know what's really funny is, It's like, you ever see those videos where the, uh, there's a video of an orangutan, and it's got a hammer and a nail, and it lays the nail down and starts just like lightly tapping it?
Like, it understands a little bit, a little bit, but not enough to actually use the hammer and the nail.
So when I was watching the Chaz people with their LARP farm, it was like one of the funniest things I've ever seen, because like, they put cardboard down, put dirt on top, and then put a potted plant right on top of it.
I'm like, That's what it's like.
It's like the hammer in the nut.
They've seen a video on Discovery Channel or something, and they're like, I saw someone do this, but they don't get it.
richie mcginniss
But the white claws tasted so good in the chest.
tim pool
The white claws?
richie mcginniss
They really did.
I mean, there's no loss, so you can drink the claws.
tim pool
To be fair, I was thinking about this when we were trying to set up audio for this show.
Like, I'm actually pretty good with audio stuff, because I've been playing music and working in various venues and stuff.
And we got this mixer, and I plug everything in, and I'm like, everything is plugged in and working the way it's supposed to, but for some reason it just doesn't work.
So I had to call a sound guy to come in, and he was like, and then he just moved little things around.
I'm like, that's crazy.
That they're, you know, you have a general understanding, you can see it, you kind of know it, you can't do it.
And so, you know, it makes me realize the importance of specialties and why these utopian dreams are completely meaningless, where they're like, if we take over these six blocks and we have, you know, a thousand people, all we need is this one park to feed them.
And it's like, how much, how many acres, how many acres of land do you need, you know, to feed a thousand people?
It's like a lot, right?
lydia smith
So, so, the problem with them is that they're not even fundamentally, like, competent.
They can't handle anything.
Like, they literally can't handle, like, buying themselves groceries.
How exactly are they supposed to handle food?
tim pool
You know what it reminds me of?
You ever, you ever play, uh, uh, Civilization?
ian crossland
Yeah, I was just thinking about... And then, you know how, like... SimCity, actually.
unidentified
I never did.
richie mcginniss
Age of Empires.
unidentified
In Civilization... Rollercoaster Tycoon.
tim pool
Civilization 2.
Check it out.
Like, randomly, there'll be, like, barbarians that just show up and will, like, attack your city.
And then when they take it, it's like, they just start taking your stuff.
And that's what it kind of feels like with the Chaz stuff.
They have no intention of producing.
They just want.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
They just want.
Some of these people just want to feel power.
So, you know, along with you talking about censorship, some people just want to feel that power.
Or that's why they sit at their desk, you know, hitting, you know, report over and over again and getting their friends to do it.
They just want to feel that power.
But some of these people just want stuff, you know.
I saw a meme posted by Sargon and it said, just because you want stuff doesn't mean it's your right, you know.
richie mcginniss
Well, I think that's an interesting point too, because the one consistent thing that we've seen across all these protest zones around the country is, is really like a lack of purpose and cause.
And I think it's a lot of, you know, 20 to 30 something year olds who just feel like they don't have anything else in life and that, that becomes their cause.
And so like in Portland, why do these fricking guys come out and get shot with pepper balls and blasted with tear gas every night, night after night?
tim pool
It's a game, dude.
richie mcginniss
It's, it's, it is.
tim pool
When, when, listen, listen, when, when, when you know the cops, Can hurt you, but listen, people go play paintball on purpose.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
So when the cops are like, we've got beanbags and pepper balls, they're like, I'm not going to get hurt.
It's going to be fun.
And they show off when they get hit.
They like go to their friends.
They're like, look, I got hit in the arm.
richie mcginniss
I'll show it off.
I got hit with a two gas canister.
unidentified
I have multiple of these people on camera talking to them and passing.
They're like, look, I got hit with a marker round and it, you know, it didn't even hurt.
And it comes off, you know, it comes off real easy.
They get arrested the next day.
No big deal.
tim pool
It's a game.
It's like, it's like to them, it's like playing football.
ian crossland
Like, people go to, like, sex clubs and get beat by whips and chains, like masochists.
It's a real thing in humanity.
tim pool
And some people go out and get shot with pepper balls by cops.
unidentified
Is that your Saturday night?
I only heard about that from another person.
I just read about that in a book.
It's a friend.
My friend is on it.
I just read about that in a book.
tim pool
It's a friend.
My friend is on it.
lydia smith
I'm asking for a friend.
unidentified
Yeah, that's all.
ian crossland
Yeah, so these people are masochists, right?
Like directionless or their direction sense is muted.
tim pool
It's a sport.
lydia smith
It's a sport.
unidentified
It is a sport.
Even the law enforcement there, they have a lightheartedness about this.
It's really interesting because some of them, even the way that they'll treat me, I'm dressed just like these people are, but they're like, hey, why don't you get behind me?
And then they run into a pole as they're bull rushing the crowd and he turns around and he goes, oh, did you get that?
And I was like, yeah, I guess.
But that's the attitude.
richie mcginniss
How come they just pepper spray me and they let you get all these cool shots?
unidentified
I don't know.
I'm better than you.
tim pool
You know what this was?
The elites, the politicians, just wanted to make sure everybody knew what would happen if they took away sports.
That way they're like, now you understand why we have baseball, football, basketball, hockey.
Because without it, people replace their teams with ideological teams.
richie mcginniss
Yeah, tear gas volleyball.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Don't they bring tennis rackets?
richie mcginniss
Oh, they have lacrosse sticks.
unidentified
They have hockey sticks.
Leaf blowers.
What else?
I mean, I'm sure, well, they bring baseball bats, but that's for hitting people in the head with.
richie mcginniss
There's some guys dressed up in full hockey gear, actually.
unidentified
I did see those guys.
richie mcginniss
I did see those guys.
tim pool
It's like some kind of weird video game or movie.
We're like you have a bunch of different kinds of characters like the hockey man and he's running around with a hockey stick.
The badminton guy.
ian crossland
The US military made America's Army a video game that they let people download for free that was basically army training and they were trying to get kids indoctrinated to join the military.
unidentified
So cool.
ian crossland
I think the games have made people want to gamify combat and street combat and I grew up playing Counter-Strike.
unidentified
I loved that game, and I still play it.
ian crossland
So maybe it only taps into a certain type of person.
unidentified
Maybe so.
There's people who are into civilization, there are people who are into FPS.
tim pool
There's a big difference between playing a game where you're holding a controller and you press up on the left thumbstick and then press R1 and then he punches a guy and then you get a point, and actually running up to a guy and then swinging at him.
It's a little different.
This is the big video game myth that video games made people crazy aggressive or murderous or whatever, or made them want to do it.
It's just ridiculous.
If you get someone who's playing video games all day, playing something like Counter-Strike or Call of Duty, and then you actually put them into live combat, they're going to be like, this is literally not the same thing in any capacity.
unidentified
You've been in wartime scenario.
tim pool
I've been in civil war.
I've not been in like... Well, I've been in revolution.
I was in Egypt during the revolution.
unidentified
And there's gunfire.
tim pool
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, they had these things.
It was crazy.
They made shotguns.
I don't know how they did it, but it was like they manufactured their own huge pipe shotguns, and they would put birdshot in it, and they would break barrel, and then load it, and then...
And one of the camera guys for Vice got shot with him twice.
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
That was crazy.
unidentified
He got shot twice, and he lived.
There was no... It was birdshot.
tim pool
So it's all just in his back.
lydia smith
It's in there forever.
tim pool
Yeah.
But no, it's not in there forever.
lydia smith
They tend to pull it out.
I've had people who come in with... They have shrapnel in them, and it never goes away.
They can't get it out.
They can't take it out for whatever reason.
tim pool
Birdshot or little BBs.
unidentified
When I was in middle school, I got stabbed with a lead pencil, and the lead never came out.
lydia smith
Yeah, it never comes out.
unidentified
It's the same thing.
lydia smith
Yeah, same idea.
unidentified
Same thing.
I know.
tim pool
Lead pencil?
unidentified
Yeah.
What's a lead pencil?
ian crossland
Probably graphite.
unidentified
Yeah, graphite.
There you go, graphite.
tim pool
Oh, graphite.
unidentified
Not lead.
That explains a lot.
ian crossland
But it used to be kids would just play with lead and put it in their mouth and how crazy.
unidentified
Well, I think some of our parents, too, may have played with mercury.
It was like this cool thing.
tim pool
But you know what I'll say about like being in conflict zones?
First, I've not been in like Syria where you had snipers and you're like, you know, you got to have like strict security protocols.
I've been in, you know, civil unrest moments and, uh, you know, factional clashes like in Thailand was scary.
That was really scary because there's two different factions, literally, like they didn't want to kill each other, but they were killing each other.
And so there was a moment where we were, we were, I was in Bangkok and someone like threw a grenade and then started like walking down the street.
Two guys, one that he had, he had, um, what was it?
M16 or I don't know, something like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And we had a shopping bag over the front of it.
But you could see the barrel coming out the front and you could see that he was holding a rifle and then he had one guy like a spotter like on his shoulder and they were moving through the streets and like it's factional violence.
You know what I'll say is it's both more like shocking than you realize and kind of less than you might think.
unidentified
Interesting.
tim pool
So like it's not like in the movies where you have this loud bass and it's like it just you feel the presence of the action scene.
Not like that at all.
But it's way more serious than people realize because It's just silent.
Pop, pop, pop, screaming.
You don't know where it's coming from, you don't know what's going on, you don't know who's doing what, you don't know which direction you go.
So I think the way to explain it is how the action movies are.
When you're watching an action movie scene and there's war, there's loud bass.
You know, it's like... And then you hear people running and it's very focused, but it's very epic in terms of the sounds you hear.
I'm in Ferguson.
I hear murmuring from the crowd and then you hear several pops.
richie mcginniss
Yeah.
tim pool
Everybody hits the floor and then the camera person that Vice sent out is like, it's just fireworks.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Fireworks.
tim pool
Good job, Vice.
richie mcginniss
I mean, but that's a good, that's a good point that you made is like comparing civil unrest in other countries to here.
I mean, at least instances of this summer, I don't recall any instance where police were using lethal weapons against the protesters.
Um, but obviously that doesn't mean that these situations can't turn for the worst and that people aren't dying in these areas.
tim pool
And obviously, well, they're, they're, they're LARPing.
That's the thing, you know, uh, until somebody dies and then you're not LARPing because you're dead.
It's interesting that, uh, the riots in June wasn't LARPing.
That was just bedlam.
That was people saying like, we're going to destroy everything, take what we can and burn it all down.
I think, you know, the interesting thing about the June riots, the George Floyd riots, was that it wasn't necessarily political, in the sense where, like, you have Antifa as a very clear political faction.
Now we're having that, what is it, the Million MAGA March is taking place?
What is that, tomorrow?
Tomorrow, yeah.
Political, it's targeted.
So when I was in Berkeley, there was a Trump rally, and a bunch of antifa showed up.
But a bunch of white nationalists showed up too, and we're standing on the Trump side.
And one of these guys yells at me, which side are you on?
And I was like, nobody's.
And then he just turned around and walked away.
So it's like...
If you go into a factional political fight, the funny thing is Antifa probably wouldn't let you get away with that.
Who's side are you on?
If you said nobody, they'd be like, how dare you?
It was funny, the white nationalist guy, he had a skull balaclava.
And when I said nobody, he just walked away.
No, no, he didn't walk away.
He just turned 10 feet and then just punched some Antifa guy full force in the face.
It was crazy.
It was nuts.
Um, but at least, like, when you go into these situations, so another, I was in, I was in Turkey, and these, uh, anarchist neighbor, they were fighting with cops in Molotovs.
When we wandered in, they walked up to us yelling at us in Turkish, and the guy held the Molotov cocktail up to my face and was screaming, and I just put my hands up, I smiled, and I turned and nodded, started walking away.
They'll just let you leave, right?
That's the thing about political violence.
But if you're in one of these riot situations, there's no control.
richie mcginniss
Correct, yeah.
tim pool
You might just get decked, flattened.
richie mcginniss
Nothing you can say, nothing you can do, nowhere you can go.
How many journalists have we filmed getting sucker punched in these zones?
unidentified
Anybody.
It's anyone.
It doesn't matter.
If you're the subject of anyone's attention, a group of people, someone could just come up and punch you and they don't know why.
They don't know why anyone was focused on you to begin with.
You're just going to get knocked out.
I got, well, I thought I got a street preacher getting squarely punched in the face.
richie mcginniss
In Portland, right?
unidentified
Yeah, in Portland.
Unfortunately, I looked at my phone and I wasn't recording.
Frustrating moment.
But yeah, somebody comes from a mile away and just says, hey, look, there's a guy.
Boom.
richie mcginniss
Well that's also, you can have these protests and stuff like that and everything's yay, rah, rah, here's my side, this is my cause, but the moment that somebody goes Lord of the Flies, things just fall apart.
unidentified
Explain that, I don't know that.
richie mcginniss
So Lord of the Flies is a book where a bunch of kids end up on a deserted island together and I don't want to give away what happens.
tim pool
Oh, come on.
richie mcginniss
Poor Piggy.
R.I.P.
Piggy.
But basically, you know, you have people who have a good idea, good intentions, who go into these areas.
But when the chaos happens, I mean, even people with the best intentions can turn on a dime.
And that's obviously what we saw in Kenosha.
It wasn't just the individuals who were involved.
The moment that those gunshots went off, I mean, you can hear the entire crowd.
Everybody's hysterical.
tim pool
Yep.
richie mcginniss
And in those kind of situations, that's when all reason goes out the window.
tim pool
You know what's really funny about that?
When I was in Ferguson, funny weird, not funny hot.
What's weird about this is that when I was in Ferguson, or no, maybe funny is the better word, not like we want to take you to Revell in it, but the people in Ferguson didn't get hysterical when gunshots went off.
They were used to it.
So the first time we heard gunshots go off, they all hit the floor, and then everybody waits and looks around, slowly starts getting back up and moving to the sides.
They didn't freak out, they didn't scream, they didn't run, attacking people, because they're used to it.
lydia smith
That's so weird, though.
tim pool
They knew how to act, because they had experiences before.
But in these ride situations, you have people who freak out.
What's happening?
I have no idea!
unidentified
Ah!
tim pool
You're yelling!
unidentified
I'm yelling!
tim pool
Loud noises!
lydia smith
Ah!
tim pool
Just people go nuts.
unidentified
And that actually describes pretty well how it was when I was in Santa Monica.
So I think at the same time there was DC, Lafayette Square, was like on fire, right?
And I think at the same time there was Santa Monica and there was Fairfax that same weekend.
But that's how I was.
I got there and the first time I heard the loud shot from the beanbag guns and all that kind of stuff, I would literally jump.
By the time I got to Kenosha, and you can see the footage on my Twitter, I'm walking very calmly between flashbangs and like all this stuff.
My back is literally to these, you know, militarized police.
Explosions are happening in front of me and it's like, you know, I got used to it pretty quick.
tim pool
Militarized police.
You know, we've had a lot of conversations about that.
I think it's the wrong way to describe it.
unidentified
Yeah?
tim pool
Yeah, it's weird because it's like an activist talking point almost.
They're using beanbags, you know, and they're using pepper balls.
It doesn't even hurt these people.
It's not really militarized.
richie mcginniss
They're referring to the armored personnel carriers.
unidentified
Yeah, I can see that being the wrong... Sure, sure.
tim pool
No, I just mean like, you know, because we talked about it.
unidentified
They're inaccurate.
tim pool
No, I think it's just it was a colloquial term people used because it looked like... When I was in Anaheim, like, we had the local police wearing full, like, military-style camo.
And they had rifles with live ammo, and they were riding around on the sides of these SUVs.
So I guess that made sense.
But now they keep saying militarized over and over again, and it's like, these cops are wearing plastic armor with pepper balls.
Like, you're gonna get hurt, I guess, but it's like, they're less dangerous than a regular beat cop.
You know what I mean?
richie mcginniss
It's interesting you say that, too, because after the shooting in Kenosha, they didn't respond.
The police were literally 200 yards away.
unidentified
Well, they didn't know what was going on.
richie mcginniss
Well, I know, but I'm just saying in a normal scenario with normal patrol cops, they hear a bunch of shots and they run over you.
tim pool
No, no, this is an important point because when Kyle Rittenhouse put up his hands and walked past the police, all these leftists were like, Oh look, he just killed these people and then he gets to walk away and it's like it's because these police are actually less prepared for that kind of situation than a regular run-of-the-mill beat cop walking down the street.
So when you get a guy, a cop, in his car and he pulls someone over, that cop's got a gun with bullets in it and if he gets scared, He shoots somebody.
We don't like that.
We don't like when that happens.
But when the riot cops come out, they have batons, and they have less lethal weapons.
So if you're like, hey, there's an active shooting, they'll be like, we are not equipped to actually deal with that.
So you'll need the regular cop in the squad car with their body armor and their handgun to actually confront someone like that.
They don't understand.
This militarized police they describe, sure, APCs and stuff like that, but what we watch when we watch riot police, These cops have more options but can do... It's less lethal.
Literally less lethal than a run-of-the-mill, you know, patrol cop.
ian crossland
Do they have armored personnel carriers?
unidentified
They did.
Yeah, they did.
ian crossland
Do they have mounted machine guns on them?
unidentified
No.
Not at all.
richie mcginniss
Not at all.
They pop out and they shoot the tear gas.
unidentified
With the less lethal though, I have to commend DHS because when I was in Portland at the Multnomah Justice Center, I was across on the grass.
There's a statue and stuff.
But I was trying to film and I had a little umbrella and I was hiding behind the umbrella.
And they started shooting through the umbrella, hit me in the chest, and I ran across the lawn, and they hit me every step of the way.
Oh, you're telling me the umbrella didn't stop the... Mind-blowing.
It's mind-blowing, yeah.
You would think that a goodwill umbrella would stop something like that.
tim pool
The Umbrella Phalanx?
They watched videos of Hong Kong.
unidentified
That's what it was.
ian crossland
By the way, did you guys see the 4 Democratic Hong Kong lawmakers were dismissed?
unidentified
No, I didn't see that.
ian crossland
It's gone.
We're losing Hong Kong.
tim pool
There's no Hong Kong anymore.
ian crossland
You might want to look that up.
That's a crazy story.
richie mcginniss
Just go build a Chazz over there.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, you know, you know, it's really interesting is that I think with this, you know, they're gonna do the lockdown again.
Fauci says, do what you're told.
They're talking about, you know, Biden says, dark winter.
And yeah, but I have to wonder, I have to wonder, are the leftists who are anti-fascist going to come out and protest against the government that is locking down the country?
Or are they going to be like, we're going to do as we're told?
richie mcginniss
That's a good question.
Like, what would happen in that?
I mean, what happens to Antifa?
tim pool
Could you imagine if like Antifa is finally like, stopped and shut down by the power of Fauci?
It's like Antifa is going crazy.
And he goes, do what you're told.
And they're like, okay, we better go back inside, guys.
unidentified
You wonder though, do they believe in do they do they believe it's as infectious?
Clearly they don't.
I mean, they're out.
But they always wear masks, you know?
And they come down on you if you don't.
They come down on you, you're not wearing a mask, and you're too close from me,
and you're a super spreader.
They do that kind of thing.
But everyone does that kind of thing.
You notice, you see it on both sides.
You see it on both sides.
lydia smith
I do think that Antifa is super conditioned to follow instructions.
Like, they're young kids, they're about our age, and all they've ever done is follow instructions.
tim pool
No, no, but they're going around fighting with cops, and burning things down and destroying things.
lydia smith
Yeah, they'll follow instructions.
tim pool
Go home at 8 p.m., go go.
They're literally doing the opposite of that, and they're getting arrested and going out.
There's like nothing stopping them.
Even when they say, you're going to jail for this, they let them out, and they're like,
I can do whatever I want.
unidentified
With the exception, Marquise Love.
I don't know if you saw this video.
Marquise Love kicked Adam Hayner in the head after, I mean, he was brutally assaulted.
Pulled from his truck.
And you were right there.
XYZ.
richie mcginniss
Did you film that?
unidentified
Yeah, he got kicked in the head.
It was, it was... I saw.
It was very graphic.
He got less, I think he got 20 months.
Which is, I mean, of all the people that are being prosecuted, that's the one that is making the headlines right now.
So, you know, it's not, it's, they're not all getting away, the majority of it, they might as well all be getting away with it.
richie mcginniss
So if you kick somebody right in the head on camera and the entire nation sees it, then you'll get 20 months.
tim pool
20 months for attempted murder?
That was a full force punt.
He was going for a field goal.
ian crossland
Do you guys think that contact lens cameras will help journalism?
unidentified
Do those exist?
ian crossland
Yeah.
richie mcginniss
They do.
Can I have one, please?
tim pool
They're pretty advanced.
ian crossland
They're telescopic.
unidentified
But I heard about this in 2008.
tim pool
The answer is no.
unidentified
They'll just be searching your eyes.
richie mcginniss
No, no, no.
tim pool
The answer is no.
We tried Google Glass.
Didn't work.
ian crossland
But that's because you could see the glasses.
I'm wondering if they're hidden and they don't know that you have a camera, if you're going to be safer, or if the cops will think you're part of the problem.
tim pool
We have hidden cameras now.
And people use them.
So, use them.
richie mcginniss
I mean, we already have to hide the fact that we're press, because it's one thing if you're like Antifa sympathetic press, but people find out who we are, they follow our Twitters or whatever, and they're Antifa, and they start just sending our photos around, and saying these people are here.
So, we have to disguise ourselves as much as we possibly can, which means dressing up like Antifa, which means getting blasted with pepper balls.
But people always say that on Twitter and stuff, like, oh, well, you deserve it!
And it's like, yeah, we accept the risk, but also, I'd rather be at the mercy of law enforcement than at the mercy of a sucker punch that's coming out of nowhere.
tim pool
Or a kick in the head.
Listen, Antifa are bad at what they do, but we'll kill you.
yet right so we we've had a few instances or what we have the
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
we have the one that one serious instance where uh...
you know michael ryan only killed that trump supporter and that's because that's a dude who actually had a gun
most time and if are just like you know dumb young people and i'll have a batter
something they'll full force point you in the head
They'll punch you.
They'll beat you.
They'll brutally beat you.
They'll leave you with messed up teeth like they did to Andy Ngo.
But they don't usually have the force for a full-on lethal encounter.
But we are starting to see stabbings.
So, you know, we saw some stabbing happen in DC or whatever.
unidentified
Yeah, Beverly Beatty was just stabbed.
And I don't know that that was Antifa.
I don't even know who that was.
richie mcginniss
Also Space Force USA, right?
unidentified
What's his name?
richie mcginniss
He was stabbed in Portland.
tim pool
But there was a guy in Portland who got stabbed.
Well, it was something rebel or... But the issue is, if I was told, you know, I'm standing between the cops and Antifa, I'm walking towards the cops.
Easy.
The cops are constrained.
Yeah, there are instances where cops, you know, this police brutality, people get shot, people get killed, but cops are accountable.
And so I know that if you walk up to the cops, the worst that's going to happen, you're going to get marks on your wrists from being cuffed.
They're going to throw you in a really uncomfortable position.
The worst case scenario with Antifa.
richie mcginniss
I got Billy Club pretty good in Wisconsin, like a month ago, and my knee is still a little bit messed up, but I'll still take the Billy Club over.
ian crossland
Do you guys ever play D&D?
Dungeons and Dragons?
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
There's alignment scales, and you can be lawful, neutral, or chaotic.
You can be good, neutral, or evil.
And you can kind of mix those two up.
Cops are lawful, neutral.
They seem to be.
Antifa's chaotic neutral.
And the chaotic neutral... No, they're not.
They're chaotic neutral.
tim pool
They're not neutral.
ian crossland
Well, for the... I think they are.
I don't think they're evil.
I mean, I don't.
I don't think they're out there to hurt people.
tim pool
You gotta, you gotta... That's not what evil means in D&D.
unidentified
What does it mean?
tim pool
Well, my understanding is that it means you act in a depraving way for your own personal benefit.
ian crossland
Yeah, evil's pretty nasty.
But even chaotic neutral people are very dangerous.
unidentified
There may be some that are like that, but it's not every single one of them.
tim pool
No, but as a group.
richie mcginniss
He was stabbed in Portland.
Was that guy evil?
The guy who stabbed him?
He knew what he was going to do.
Heck yeah, he's evil.
ian crossland
I think not all of them are neutral.
And not all cops are neutral.
Some of them are good, some of them are evil.
But for the most part, you're looking at lawful versus chaotic.
And I'd much rather side on the side of lawful.
Then chaotic and you always pretty much always should for the betterment of your life.
richie mcginniss
I think it's you know, there's me bad apples everywhere.
It's a matter of what are the structures by which these people are being kept in check and and what's the oversight, right?
So people complain about the fact that our criminal justice system and our police don't have enough oversight, but Antifa has absolutely zero.
So I think you know in any situation like Those bad apples are going to take as much as they're given.
And so police have a lot more, there's a lot more there to keep them from acting evil.
tim pool
They're accountable.
And Antifa and Black Lives Matter like to act like they're not accountable, but they are.
Because there are instances where cops are not being held accountable does not mean that all cops all the time are unaccountable.
Which means, for the most part, when I've been arrested before, and it's a process, and then I've left the next day or in a few hours, I've also been attacked by, you know, Antifa and far leftists, and there's no predict- it's unpredictable, they're vindictive, they're nasty, and nothing will be done about what they do to you.
If they take your stuff, you can't get it back.
If you get arrested, the cop takes your phone, you can be like, the cop took my phone, and then file paperwork, and then eventually you find your phone, or they give it to you when you leave.
Antifa will steal from you and then run and laugh.
ian crossland
Like, the cops are, you know, they have to appeal to the law, what you call accountable to the law, the U.S.
law, which is pretty good law.
If we were in Turkey or in China, the cops might be the bad guys.
unidentified
Good luck.
ian crossland
Yeah.
richie mcginniss
I think you're right that there are obviously problems with the system and everything can be improved.
lydia smith
Right.
richie mcginniss
And there are definitely issues in America with respect to law enforcement.
People are taking for granted the fact that the civil unrest that you saw elsewhere, where the police were using lethal force in Tahrir Square, I mean...
tim pool
Well, uh, I don't think the cops were doing anything to our rear.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That wasn't, I wouldn't call that, uh, that was two factions fighting each other.
When the military, the military waited until they, like they decided which side they were on and then it was just shut down.
It was over.
But they, but they did go and just start mass executing a bunch of the Muslim brotherhood people.
richie mcginniss
So there's that too.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That was after the revolution.
Uh, they just started going and just firing at these people, these kids, just like.
You know.
ian crossland
Remember the Kent State 1970 when the National Guard killed four kids?
unidentified
I just heard about this.
ian crossland
That was mine.
I went to Kent State actually.
What year was that?
1970, May 4th.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
And it was just the most gruesome national global news.
It was a Vietnam protest.
tim pool
Four people, four dead.
ian crossland
That's a big deal.
Four dead in Ohio.
Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young wrote a song about it.
richie mcginniss
I think that they shot him with rifles too.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
I believe so.
tim pool
National Guard.
One dude got like a shot through the wrist and then like paralyzed his hand or whatever.
Yeah.
ian crossland
And that's a big deal to us.
In these other countries, they're mowing down crowds.
richie mcginniss
And we've made progress, obviously, because look at all the unrest we had this summer and we didn't have police or National Guard actually shooting people with lethal weapons.
ian crossland
It's kind of crazy.
tim pool
Think about, you know, the L.A.
riots.
It was a Rodney King incident.
They beat him and he lived.
And then the whole city went just nuts.
Now we have, like, people dying.
And sometimes it's like nothing happens.
It's kind of weird, you know?
But it shows that things are actually getting better, even with the unrest.
lydia smith
The unrest is bad, but... If someone died at the hands of cops, there would have been a huge unrest.
But people died at the hands of protesters, and there was no unrest.
This bothers me immensely, because there should be the same amount of unrest, whether it's the cops or protesters.
Protesters seem to get away with anything.
richie mcginniss
Or compare Kyle Rittenhouse to the killing in Portland of the Trump supporter.
What was his name again?
Who killed him?
tim pool
Michael Reinold.
richie mcginniss
I mean, I'm not saying, I'm not justifying either one, obviously, but the press's coverage was discernibly different between the two instances.
tim pool
Of course.
And they're writing stuff like Kyle Rittenhouse is a mass shooter and we should be terrified that his, you know, Trump supporters are, you know, venerating this man who's clearly killed these innocent protesters.
They don't care for nuance.
They don't care for, you know, understanding anything at all.
It's just we want, we win, our team, the rest of you can burn.
lydia smith
So this is, to me, this is just an extrapolation of we want mindset.
We want, we want, we want.
We want the narrative to be this way.
This is the way the narrative is.
We want Chaz.
We want this.
unidentified
We want this, you know?
And in Chaz, like what you were saying, we want, and they don't produce anything.
It's just take, take, take.
They wanted vegan meat replacements because, you know what I mean?
They can't, they can't feed themselves and they have to go outside.
They have to cross national borders.
lydia smith
Right.
unidentified
Yeah, seriously.
into their own territory.
tim pool
They were requesting foreign aid.
Yeah.
Seriously.
richie mcginniss
Yeah.
lydia smith
Shaking down local businesses.
unidentified
They have to invade the next block to get to the restaurant.
Yeah, they do.
I think even the little taco shop there, they had a bathroom.
And of course, they changed the code to, I think, ACAB in numbers.
tim pool
What is that?
unidentified
1312.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just to get on board.
tim pool
So what are we going to see this weekend?
What do you think?
Trump supporters.
I was told by the media, the right wing, got to be careful about those Trump supporters.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
richie mcginniss
I was enjoying my civil unrest slash riot vacation.
So I'm hoping that things stay peaceful.
But with that being said, there are groups, Antifa groups that we know of that are organizing and also Proud Boys groups that are organizing.
So that's never a good recipe.
Right.
And I mean, in D.C., with that being said, generally speaking, the police, the park police, they are all much, much better at managing these situations than, for example, the Kenosha police, obviously.
So they're always like, I mean, the irony there is like every weekend they'd shut down the, um, the key bridge, which is relatively, you know, um, a bike ride away.
So I'd go down there and just watch them shut it down.
And the irony there is they're, they're chanting all cops are B words, but the cops are shutting down each side of the bridge to make sure that there's no car traffic to make sure that they're safe.
So while they're chanting that the cops are sitting there watching, blocking traffic, and then they're done with their demonstration.
And then, then they.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
And that's why the cops, it was really funny, I remember being in Union Square in New York and this person was screaming at a cop, you know, whose side are you on?
You know, you're a traitor and all this stuff.
And I was like, bro, that cop doesn't know anything about what you're talking about.
And they don't care.
They want to go home after work, lay back in their lounge chair and put on their DVR of the game.
Who won the game they're gonna watch it and tell their friends don't tell me their kids too, right?
It's a job Yeah, they come home.
They're stressed.
I kick their boots off They lay down there like and the wife goes like so how was work today, honey?
And he's like some person was screaming about the 1% or something.
unidentified
I don't even know Fascists and this and that and it's like yeah.
Yeah, whatever man if this you wouldn't be here you'd be I Yes.
a mist of some kind if this was fascism like, you know, it's really, you know, you know,
tim pool
while we're dealing with this lockdown stuff, and then you look at the defund the police
stuff, it really seems like there's a trend towards just chaos.
Yes, just total chaos.
Yes.
Destroying the economy, destroying businesses, just destroying everything.
unidentified
I said this, I think there's some some, on a more serious note, there is multiple fronts
in which I think this country is being targeted in the economy.
You have these, like in Portland for example, it's all going down the drain.
You can't have a business because the whole place is every single night Chaos and you have the lockdown businesses are going away small businesses and things like that and These rioters are just every single night dry.
richie mcginniss
Nobody people are packing it up But who's telling us who's telling us everything that we need to know about the riots in the lockdowns It's these people who are getting well, we stepped in because of the vacuum that's there because these people are sitting in these multi-million dollar studios They're still fully employed They have no problem putting food on the table for their kids because they're making millions of dollars a year.
And what are they doing?
They're telling everybody to stay at home.
And then they're also simultaneously downplaying the violence that's taking place as a byproduct of these protests.
And the human suffering that we've witnessed firsthand, not only people getting beat up or cops getting called bad names, but people getting shot and dying.
They have no connection to that.
lydia smith
Well, Richie, those journalists, they are essential.
You guys, I don't know what you are.
richie mcginniss
You're not essential.
Chopped liver, I don't know.
tim pool
It's all essential, though.
You don't have to do much to be an essential worker.
You say you are.
People think press passes are a real thing.
You know, they don't realize that every company just, like, went to a printer and just pressed print.
richie mcginniss
Dude, mine's legit.
Mine says United States Congress on it.
tim pool
But you can get, but so the government can't.
richie mcginniss
Oh, I still got Billy Club while I was holding it.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
So the issue is that the government doesn't authorize the press.
So government press passes are.
unidentified
Yeah.
How can you?
In my mind, you know, I'm not an expert in this stuff, but it's like.
tim pool
But does this get you into, like, secure?
richie mcginniss
It'll get me into, like, I can go where staffers can go on the hill.
tim pool
Yeah.
richie mcginniss
So, like, you can film in the hallways and stuff like that.
And it's, you know, it's more legitimate that it's just something that's printed out.
But apparently it's not big enough because I was holding it like this in my hand.
tim pool
Oh, it never works.
richie mcginniss
Saying, I'm pressed.
Yes, sir.
I'm getting on my knees.
And I still got my butt beat.
So.
ian crossland
It'd be cool if you had like I'm just thinking ahead here like graphene clothing that could like light up But only could be perceived by certain people So like if you had if a lawmaker if the cops have like visual Electronics where they yeah like visors they can see no right on you, but the Listen anybody anybody can get a press badge.
tim pool
Oh Anybody can wear press.
ian crossland
But if the rioters see their press badge, it makes it dangerous for them.
richie mcginniss
You know what they use in D.C.?
So basically, in order to identify the sympathetic press, The protesters will give them glow sticks around their wrists of certain colors.
They change the colors.
There's different identifying things that they give.
And so we're sitting there and we're like, man, where can I get a glow stick?
No, but then if you have a glow stick, then they're like, yo, who's this guy who has a glow stick?
So it's.
unidentified
I always say just bring a bigger group than they have.
Oh yeah.
That's all because then they're outnumbered and they go, well, I guess we're the weird ones now.
And you know, who are we?
I don't know.
You know?
richie mcginniss
Well, our riot squad is unfortunately only six people, so that's not going to get us very far.
unidentified
No, nobody knows that.
tim pool
A whole bunch of journalists show up and just take over the street.
unidentified
Yeah.
richie mcginniss
Well, I mean, that's really how we formed our group in the first place is because, you know, Shelby and I or Jorge and I or us three would go and then we'd encounter Kaelin, Elijah Schaefer, Drew Hernandez.
And they were kind of we were kind of in the same boat because like we were getting viewed negatively by the protesters.
And it was a You know, we were looking after each other and so then we just kind of started to watch each other's backs.
But it's definitely better to have, you know, five or six than it is to have.
ian crossland
Are you guys growing the Riot Squad?
richie mcginniss
Let's open it up for applications out there.
tim pool
Join the Riot Squad!
unidentified
You know, it's funny though.
In LA, there's nobody.
There's really only a few people who go out to these things.
And it's a relatively small scene in terms of Antifa or these types of things.
And there's a lot of actual, like, violent people there.
Yeah, that's when it's more dangerous.
richie mcginniss
It's easier to find out who you are.
unidentified
There's, like, real bad... This is not Portland.
But what I'm saying is, though, is I'm talking to one of my buddies and I'm like, you know, I wish we had more people.
I wish we could just have more people.
What are they going to do if there's 20 people there or 10 people there with a phone out?
Who are they going to?
You know, what are they going to do?
tim pool
The challenge then becomes that you're the story now.
A mob of journalists marching in Los Angeles.
unidentified
Which is what, you know, you don't want to be the story.
ian crossland
That's a good story.
unidentified
But he goes, he goes, he goes, yeah.
But he goes, people don't want to do that.
What you're doing isn't normal.
tim pool
I was in Ferguson, and it was one of the last nights of like the initial riot wave.
And most people had left.
And all that was left, it was probably 95% media.
And so I'm walking on the sidewalk and there's a huge crowd of journalists and reporters and camera and the armored, you know, personnel carrier, they're driving and the cops are like, please disperse.
You must disperse.
I look around and I'm like, there's only two protesters and they're leaving.
So I said to the camera guy I was with, I was with Vice at the time, I was like, come here, come here, come here.
We crossed the street, I said, film that.
And I pointed to the crowd of journalists, all slowly walking backwards, filming and taking pictures of the police.
And then the police went, media!
We're talking to you!
You must disperse!
They don't, they, just like, like dial tone, like, they're just sitting there.
Their brains don't work.
These people think, well, it's not talking to me.
I'm not part of the story.
I'm a journalist.
No, no, you were the only crowd left.
That's why I was like, we're crossing the street and we're going to film them, because it was funny.
When I was there, there was all these journalists, reporters, and I overheard one guy say, I'm just here to network.
No joke, no joke.
Like Anderson Cooper was there or whatever.
All the younger journalists were like, oh, look who it is, CNN, ooh.
And then Don Lemon got it wrong.
He was down the street or something and he was like, there's tear gas behind him.
And he's like, the police are not using tear gas.
And then I'm in the tear gas live streaming going like, that's tear gas!
That's what you get with the mainstream press.
But yeah, it was really funny to me that journalists think that they're, like, invisible.
These are traditional journalists who think they're magic of some sort, but...
No, they became the story.
richie mcginniss
And that's what we saw in Chaz, though, is like basically the cable news folks would come out to do their day side hits.
They'd say, it's very much a peaceful like atmosphere, folks, back to you.
And then they'd go back to their hotels.
Right.
And then we're there at 12 a.m.
to 4 a.m.
and there's like 20 fights and there's all these people with guns and people are drinking.
unidentified
And there's rapes, and there's major theft.
And we're like, what the heck?
richie mcginniss
Yeah, you were there at 2 p.m., man.
tim pool
Yeah.
richie mcginniss
Like, come on down at 2 a.m., and then, like, let's do the hit.
Let's see.
You'll get mobbed.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, totally.
I remember, like, during Occupy Wall Street, it was similar.
They would show up at 7 p.m., the camera truck would pull up, they'd jump out, the lady would talk for a minute, they'd get and leave.
unidentified
Exactly.
tim pool
And I'm like, they didn't report anything!
richie mcginniss
What we're seeing here on the ground for the last 37 and a half seconds, you know, it's like, yeah, you spend some time there.
unidentified
That reminds me when I was in Delaware to see Joe Biden's like, whatever it was, there was nobody there, but there was huge mainstream media.
They had huge stages set up and you just you see, and there's nothing going on.
There was four Biden supporters and it was like, there are no Biden supporters.
tim pool
That's a lie.
unidentified
Trump haters.
But all the money that goes into it, I think, plays a part in why they're not going in.
It's like, you know, my phone costs $1,500, their camera costs whatever it costs, and they can't risk it.
richie mcginniss
Yeah, at least.
Plus, they all have armed security, too.
I mean, I've talked to the security guys.
tim pool
All right, so let's do this.
ian crossland
Let me ask Ru this real quick.
Sorry.
Do you guys ever use drones to document?
unidentified
I've thought about it.
I haven't.
Not personally.
richie mcginniss
It depends though because a lot of them are urban areas, so like the no-fly zones.
unidentified
What I have seen though, in Portland, I did see a guy set up a drone and immediately he got green lasers.
ian crossland
You!
unidentified
Stop what you're doing.
richie mcginniss
That was the first instance of a civilian actually getting fined.
I don't know exactly what the fine was or if there was any jail time, but for flying a drone in Portland.
tim pool
I was flying a drone during Occupy Wall Street when the first commercial drone started to come out, the AR Parrot.
And so really, really low quality tech.
We did the first live broadcast via drone back during Occupy Wall Street, flying it over the crowd.
It was crazy.
It was really hard to set up.
unidentified
That's pretty cool.
tim pool
So what we did was we used the software development kit to control the drone through a laptop, and then took the video feed into the laptop, screen grabbed it, and then rebroadcast it.
ian crossland
You can learn a lot about the rights.
tim pool
The cops were confused.
Yeah, they didn't even care about the... Back then, they were like, I have no idea what I'm seeing.
ian crossland
I would think you could learn a lot about the rides by seeing it from above.
How you see the crowd moves is kind of an animal.
richie mcginniss
I mean, we flew them in Kenosha because that was like, you know, you could fly there, but it's kind of difficult to set up a drone in that environment.
unidentified
Right.
richie mcginniss
You know, and secondarily, it also, it's like a... Far away.
People are going to throw crap at it.
They're going to try to knock it down.
tim pool
You got to go real high and far away.
And especially if you want to do like a real drone with like a good camera, it's never going to happen.
They're going to knock it down.
I've seen, I think it was in Turkey, someone fired a net or something at a drone.
It was a long time ago.
And it worked?
Yeah, the cops fired a net.
richie mcginniss
They have EMP guns too now.
tim pool
EMP?
No.
richie mcginniss
Yeah, they do.
I mean, like the government does.
tim pool
I guess you could theoretically use like a microwave.
To scramble the signal.
richie mcginniss
Well, it might be something like that.
I don't know exactly.
It might scramble the signal.
I'm not sure.
tim pool
Cause it to freak out.
richie mcginniss
It just causes it to drop out of the air.
tim pool
So they fired a net and then it just falls, hits the ground.
It was crazy.
richie mcginniss
DHS used a lot of drones in Portland though.
They were flying them off the federal courthouse like all night long.
tim pool
That's dangerous, man.
Drones.
I'm always worried because it's like they could fall.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
They could drop my, Amazon could drop my packages.
tim pool
So, so, well, so let me ask you guys, are you, have you been following politics at all?
Like the, the election stuff?
unidentified
Yep. As much, maybe not as much as you, you know, but I think, yeah, I mean, for the most part,
we're, we're, we're staying up to date, but what's going on?
tim pool
Well, so, uh, you know, the media said Joe Biden won, right. But Donald Trump is in court. The
certifications hasn't haven't, haven't happened yet. And Trump has seen Trump seems to be firing
off everything in every direction.
A bunch of suits, I guess a handful of them got dismissed today.
One of them was significant by a federal court.
It was challenging ballots that came in after election day, even though they were postmarked before.
So that might be a really big deal and that might change things.
We'll see what happens.
unidentified
That was in PA.
tim pool
That was in Pennsylvania.
So it seems like The greatest likelihood right now, and it's like significant, is, you know, Joe Biden's on track to be the next president.
But we're not there yet.
And Donald Trump might win.
Based on everything we've seen with the media saying Joe Biden won, in the event that Donald Trump somehow pulls this triple Hail Mary off, flips the results, becomes president, what do you think's going to happen?
unidentified
Unrest, man.
I think we're going to see unrest.
tim pool
Just unrest.
Just, you know, rabble.
unidentified
Civil unrest.
richie mcginniss
My vacation will end.
tim pool
Your vacation will end.
richie mcginniss
Yeah, well, it was my vacation.
tim pool
But on a scale of 1 to 10?
With 10 being the worst, 1 being the... The best.
1 being like people handing out ice cream cones, 5 being a protest, and 10 being, you know, war.
richie mcginniss
Go with a niner.
tim pool
Nine?
richie mcginniss
Go with a niner.
tim pool
Just before war.
richie mcginniss
I mean, I really think that what we're seeing right now, like, it's buildup on both sides.
And so, I mean, obviously, you know, night of, we didn't really have a result.
But as of yet, we haven't really, knock on wood, seen much of anything.
But I think all of this is coming to a head.
tim pool
It's like the calm before the storm or the eye of the storm.
It's like the hurricane hit, we saw the riots and now we're in the middle thinking everything's
fine.
The storm's going to move again and then we're going to get hit by, you know.
richie mcginniss
Just don't tell my mom.
unidentified
Here, okay, what about this?
Trump wins.
Crazy unrest the first night, people take it too far, people die, then they realize
this is real and it goes dead for a little while.
tim pool
Depends on who dies, I guess.
unidentified
Maybe a lot of people.
tim pool
Maybe a lot of people.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
If it was a right-wing individual, they wouldn't care.
They would be like, so what?
And if it was a left-wing individual, they would say, how dare you!
They're killing us!
And they would be even more angry.
ian crossland
But it's like a family of four and their car gets burned alive or something.
That's like Kent State stuff.
unidentified
I always forget.
tim pool
No, they pepper sprayed kids, dude.
ian crossland
They didn't kill them, though.
tim pool
Yeah, but I don't think... No one's gonna accept responsibility.
ian crossland
I don't think... It's gotta be caught on camera.
tim pool
And it's gotta be a massive shock to the system, like... Like, obvious person waving Antifa flag doing something brutal on camera and then bragging about it and yelling, like... And then everyone cheers and claps for him.
Maybe.
The problem is the media doesn't Cover it!
They won't put it on TV!
lydia smith
I don't think there's a massive shock to the system anymore.
I don't think anything will shock the system at this point.
We saw a guy get shot by an Antifa dude.
We saw a guy get shot in Denver.
Nothing happened.
No one cared.
I don't think there is a shock to the system anymore.
richie mcginniss
I think that's on the media.
Because I think that their coverage of all this has been incredibly irresponsible.
And they just... I don't think they care.
I mean, I think that they're playing a game where they want, you know, their side to prevail and... Money.
tim pool
Their side is money.
The media companies are like... Look, you got a lot of activists in media, for sure.
But a lot of these bosses are like, if it bleeds, it leads.
Oh, was that guy got shot in the face?
It was at 11.
You ever see the movie Nightcrawler?
That movie is so good.
No?
unidentified
I'll watch it.
richie mcginniss
Oh, you gotta watch that.
lydia smith
You guys gotta watch it.
richie mcginniss
You are Nightcrawler.
lydia smith
You are.
tim pool
No, no, no.
unidentified
What is that?
You just don't have as cool a car.
You just don't have as cool a car.
tim pool
That dude was a sociopath.
lydia smith
He was a sociopath.
tim pool
A Nightcrawler is... Kevin's not a sociopath.
unidentified
Nightcrawling is... I'm a nice guy.
I'm a nice guy.
tim pool
Nightcrawling is when journalists go out in the middle of the night and cover crime and accidents.
unidentified
You know what though?
I did chase helicopters for a little while.
I was like, where's that...
richie mcginniss
Wait a second.
What were you in?
unidentified
In L.A.?
richie mcginniss
A fighter jet?
No, no, no.
unidentified
We're in L.A.
richie mcginniss
We're in L.A.
unidentified
Look, they have a certain area, right?
If you're in San Bernardino, they're not going to L.A.
It's fine.
But, you know, they circle around an area.
tim pool
This is what we, whenever I would be on the ground with my friends covering unrest, you follow helicopters.
Yeah.
So we would pull up in L.A., and we'd be like, we were in L.A., we're going to Anaheim.
Where's the riot in Anaheim?
Look for the helicopter.
And then you look for where the helicopter is, and the cops got lower-flying helicopters, and you just go to the helicopter.
And then what happened was, we did, we pulled into a gas station, and there's everyone, this is Anaheim, everyone's like, it's late at night, people are going crazy.
I get out of this SUV, I close the door, and then this massive rock, probably five pounds, goes right past my head and slams it in the ground, and I was like, we found it!
We're here!
All right.
Yeah, people were getting shot with those sponge rounds.
You know, the rubber bullets, the big ones.
richie mcginniss
Those are the worst.
Those are the most painful by far.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
What are those?
unidentified
I didn't get hit with any of those.
richie mcginniss
I got hit with one in the quad, man.
tim pool
Is it 44 or 40 millimeter?
unidentified
40.
tim pool
40 millimeter?
It could be like 39.
ian crossland
Do they expand on impact?
tim pool
No, no, no, they wear them.
richie mcginniss
It's like a really hard, just like rubber.
tim pool
I think I have one in a box somewhere from France.
When I was in France, I got one.
ian crossland
What do you think on a scale of 1 to 10 if Biden wins?
tim pool
Trump supporters are going to be like, well, try again in four years.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, I think there may be more like people are going to start, well, you know, the new campaign starts today.
And yeah, you know, that's that's probably what we're going to see.
But the far left is not going to be OK with Biden.
richie mcginniss
They're going to keep doing what they're doing.
I mean, even if Biden wins in Philly just a couple weeks ago, like literally on the night of the riots, we were about 10 miles away from the riots took place earlier in the night and we were filming the protesters and one of the protesters said, I like put the quote on my Twitter was, she basically said, you guys are telling me that the author of the crime bill and somebody who calls themselves top cop, Are your answer to our problems?
Absolutely not.
Like this, this fight is just starting.
So I don't think necessarily like that just because Biden becomes president that all.
tim pool
No, of course not.
richie mcginniss
I mean, BLM existed when Obama was president.
tim pool
It started under Obama and he made everything worse and then Trump inherited it all.
And it's only, it only got worse.
richie mcginniss
It'll be different though, is the way that the press treats those.
Oh, wow.
ian crossland
They're going to villainize the protesters.
tim pool
As soon as Biden is sworn in, the press is going to turn around.
They already are saying that Bernie Sanders and Warren are locked out of the Biden cabinet.
So Elizabeth Warren praises Joe Biden and the progressive wing saying, without him, without the progressives, Biden couldn't make this victory.
And then Biden's like, get him out of here.
richie mcginniss
Yeah, because Bernie's an independent actor and they can't tell him what to do.
tim pool
But Joe Biden's going to throw red meat to the progressives because too much of the Democratic Party has become progressive, but it's going to be to the bulk that are passive.
The passive progressives.
ian crossland
Andrew Yang, give them like a nice cushy desk job.
tim pool
Yup, and yeah, yeah, we're gonna do a UBI commission, and then you're gonna get a bunch of progressives being like, we're working on it, yay!
And then the more extreme organizers are gonna be booted out, the leadership will be booted out, and they're just gonna try everything in their power to placate them.
So it'll be bad, for everybody, but hey, you know.
That's what they get.
I love it, man.
We just found out that the U.S.
officials were lying to Trump about how many troops we have in the Middle East, in Syria.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
So that when he was ordering the withdrawal, they gave him incorrect numbers so he couldn't... Like, they just lied.
Oh, don't worry, Trump.
You've already withdrawn most of the soldiers, so good go.
And then Trump's like, okay, excellent.
They were basically defying lawful orders from the president.
We have had four years of government officials defying presidential legal orders.
ian crossland
That would be imprisonment.
tim pool
Why aren't they getting—they should all go to prison.
lydia smith
Yep.
ian crossland
Whoever called that shot should be imprisoned, I think.
lydia smith
For sure.
I would say so.
richie mcginniss
Especially when it's a president who was elected on a platform specifically of withdrawing those troops.
And it's like that the people spoke with their votes.
And now we have unelected officials in our military or in the White House basically defying that.
I think that's more, that for me is more angering than the fact that they're defying Donald Trump.
It's that there were however many tens of millions of people who voted for him and they're saying, no, no, democracy's not for me.
tim pool
They're just breaking the law for their own personal gain and for their own psychotic beliefs and their arrogance and their ego.
And Joe Biden is now back.
He's back, baby.
And now they're talking about, guess what?
Guess what?
Hillary Clinton cabinet position.
richie mcginniss
Don't let Joe get hot.
tim pool
Hillary Clinton cabinet position.
That's what they're saying.
lydia smith
It's so funny to me that they're talking about the will of the people and democracy and voting and they're having people in these positions lying to Trump about how many people are overseas.
That is such nonsense.
If you actually cared about what the people thought, You would care about removing troops from overseas.
You would really care about taking the troops from overseas.
You would care about their parents.
You care about everyone who's affected by the wars, but they don't.
They really, really don't.
Which makes me think that they don't care about the votes either.
But, I don't know.
richie mcginniss
I mean that's, that's why, I mean I think that's a large reason why Trump got elected is because like, basically DC is just on an island.
And everybody is completely removed from the human suffering.
tim pool
And they use low information voters to gain power.
And then now, you know, I go to my friends and they're all pro-war all of a sudden.
They're like, well, Trump's bad, war is good.
And I'm like, you think war is good? Well, it's better than Trump.
ian crossland
Okay. I got to ask.
unidentified
Awesome.
ian crossland
Who wanted Clinton in the cabinet?
tim pool
It was just something I saw on Fox.
ian crossland
Oh good. Oh.
tim pool
They were like, new conversations about Hillary Clinton may be joining the cabinet.
And it could be BS, because everyone was like, is Hillary Clinton somehow still going to become president?
richie mcginniss
Dude, I vote Secretary of State, right?
ian crossland
Oh my god, wow.
tim pool
And then the Clinton Foundation comes back, and then she can fulfill her contracts.
unidentified
All the regular old stuff that we saw before is coming back, and they're just going to protect the thing that they— No, it's Secretary of State, and then she can fix Lydia.
richie mcginniss
Yeah, what's going on in Libya?
ian crossland
How is Libya, by the way?
tim pool
Ah, slave trade, fractionalized civil war.
lydia smith
Open air slave trades, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Doing well.
ian crossland
Oh, thanks, Hillary.
tim pool
Refugee crisis.
People on boats flee to Europe.
ian crossland
Did Osprey Global Solutions get their arms running contracts?
unidentified
You know it!
Better than Trump's America.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
You know, the worst thing about Trump's America was that he was trying to bring these soldiers back.
unidentified
2016, I remember.
He said, we're pulling out of everywhere.
That was one of the things I remember.
tim pool
Yeah, but when he first got elected, he didn't do that.
It was only in the past couple of years he's slowly moved towards it.
It was really only this last year he did a much better job.
unidentified
I had been paying attention for too long, and I guess I was used to nothing ever being done, so I'm always like, well, maybe I give some slack.
Maybe it took a little while to get to things.
tim pool
Trump really was not supposed to win.
ian crossland
Dude, the craziest news of all.
richie mcginniss
Obama ran on that platform, too.
tim pool
But Obama's foreign policy was completely in line with American foreign policy.
unidentified
see you. Folks, I'm gonna blow you up with a drone, folks.
No. Yeah, he brought folks back. Blow you up with a drone.
tim pool
That's not true. These kids gotta get blown up somehow. So I saw it. Kids are not gonna blow themselves up.
Yeah, that's what That's that's that's whenever whenever people post this meme You know they post something on Facebook like why is our military budget so big and I was like well You know who's gonna blow these kids it you know I mean like someone's got a job these drone bombs So that's that's it's been the US war machine Obama said he runs on bringing our troops back He gets elected.
He starts new conflicts, new wars.
He brings in more troops.
NDAA, you know, signs that.
The AUMF.
It just gets worse and worse and worse and worse and worse.
ian crossland
What's the AUMF?
tim pool
The Authorization for Use of Military Force.
ian crossland
What did it do?
tim pool
So it wasn't him necessarily.
Congress re-upped our military presence in the Middle East.
Basically saying, we're going to sign this thing that says we should stay.
And he was like, you bet.
ian crossland
Geez.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So it just carries on.
unidentified
And he couldn't keep her foreign war folks.
You know, he said, he said that word more than any other.
Folks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Any after, after him, uh, that word skyrocketed.
I look at the stats on Google.
It went up.
tim pool
And now, now it's just skyrocketed.
unidentified
It's like a word from 1950s.
ian crossland
It's crazy.
unidentified
There you go.
ian crossland
Folks.
Two things.
One, the NDAA, National Defense Authorization Act is like, uh, the promulgate of the, I think that's the right word.
Uh, the Patriot Act.
tim pool
No, the NDAA is something they do every year.
It's the National Defense Authorization Act.
So, like the AUMF, it's like, okay, here's this year's budget for what we're going to do, and then they say, send it to them.
And I think it was 2012, they added a provision that allowed for indefinite detention.
So, under that National Defense Authorization Act, The U.S.
could essentially rendition anybody off to an offshore oil rig and then lock them up without charge or trial.
And that was it.
richie mcginniss
Same thing Lincoln did during the Civil War.
He suspended habeas corpus.
tim pool
Yeah, I mean, but what they're doing now seemingly has, I guess it's the war on terror.
ian crossland
I was talking to Andreas last night.
Suspending habeas corpus is similar to creating the Patriot Act.
So a few years after they suspended habeas corpus, the next couple presidents later reinstated it.
So I think we should repeal the Patriot Act.
richie mcginniss
Yeah, good luck with that.
tim pool
It was up for, like, renewal, and I guess they renewed it, right?
Yep.
ian crossland
But we could repeal it at any time, right?
tim pool
Listen, when Trump tried to pull our troops out of Afghanistan, both Democrats and Republicans said no.
They love it!
ian crossland
Dude, he stopped dyeing his hair.
Trump did?
tim pool
What do you mean?
ian crossland
Yeah, his hair's white again!
tim pool
No, you were watching some grainy internet video.
unidentified
Are you sure, dude?
tim pool
It looked completely white!
You know the thing about the... It looks whiter.
You know the thing about the Yanny and Laurel thing?
What about it?
It was just, what kind of phone did you have?
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
Yes.
unidentified
That's chalked it all up to the phone.
ian crossland
I think that was debunked, the blue and yellow dress.
tim pool
It was, what kind of phone do you have?
ian crossland
It's more than that, because people will be like, we looked at it on the same phone and we saw different colors.
unidentified
Well, it's the same as the figurine, the ballerina, right?
Some people saw it clockwise, some people saw it counterclockwise.
You don't remember that one?
ian crossland
Maybe I just wanted to see white hair.
tim pool
But with the ballerina thing.
richie mcginniss
Wait, what's the point, though, of this?
tim pool
Of what?
richie mcginniss
Analogy.
Like, what are we saying here?
ian crossland
Like, you see different things differently?
Different people see different things when they look at the same thing?
unidentified
I got you, I got you.
ian crossland
But I mean, it looked completely stark white.
tim pool
Oh yeah, Trump's hair.
Because you were watching a low-res grainy internet video.
ian crossland
No, no, it was on CNN.
tim pool
No, no, no, it was YouTube, dude.
It was YouTube.
ian crossland
It's the same network, same channel that I've been watching for the last three months.
tim pool
Have you ever seen a picture of Trump from the AP?
They boost the saturation so his face is bright orange.
You ever notice this?
It's insane.
Yes, Trump spray tans.
Yes, you can see the mark on his face, but they really go into Photoshop, outline his face, and then blast the orange to make him look like a clown.
It's not remembering it.
They do it every single day.
I go on and I'm looking at photos of Trump all the time when I'm making thumbnails and stuff, and I'm like, there's the AP and ABC again, boosting the saturation on Trump's face by 200%.
Then you go to like PBS or you go to Fox, And Trump's face looks just kind of pale.
richie mcginniss
You know what, though?
Take that example, right?
And then compare that to the way that the press treated FDR, who was a very controversial and polarizing figure at the time.
But the press basically agreed with the White House that they weren't going to show that he was in a wheelchair.
tim pool
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
richie mcginniss
And there were the majority of Americans didn't even know that he was in a wheelchair.
lydia smith
Yeah.
richie mcginniss
And that was because the American press agreed that it was good for the country to make our leader look strong.
And I think now that kind of like, oh, we're on this side or this side, but we're all American and we all want our country to succeed.
Where the heck is that?
lydia smith
That's kind of interesting to me because they could do the same thing with Trump.
They could do the same thing, be like, he has his foibles.
He has his weirdness.
He definitely has some weaknesses, but we're going to try to make him look strong.
Like, we're really going to try to make him look strong.
But they don't.
They did it with FDR.
They won't do it with Trump.
However weird he is, however strange he is, whatever weird foibles he has, they won't change how they view him.
And this is how they project him to the rest of the world.
richie mcginniss
Why do you think that is?
lydia smith
It's actually an issue.
I don't know why that is.
They just hate him.
tim pool
Well, Trump wasn't supposed to win.
I think, like I mentioned this the other day, when I remember when Trump won and I was standing outside of this building when Trump was meeting with Republican leadership.
And apparently like they were all mad and they all hated him.
Trump didn't play ball.
They sat him down and said, here's our foreign policy plan.
Here's what we've been working on.
Here's why we're doing it.
And Trump went, no.
ian crossland
I got to say, I'm looking at the Independent, the New York Post, uh, internet reacts to Donald Trump's new gray hair at live press conference.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
All right, then.
Well, there you go.
unidentified
It wasn't imaginary.
ian crossland
Dude, he stopped dying his hair.
He's given up.
He's done with the crap.
tim pool
Yeah, but that means Donald Trump was a celebrity before.
Is he going to retirement now?
ian crossland
He's becoming real.
I don't know.
I think he's going to do some real stuff.
richie mcginniss
This is like the fifth evolution of Trump.
ian crossland
Yeah, he's like, no more games.
richie mcginniss
Well, you know, there was a real turning point.
I think it was two years ago at CPAC when he actually made fun of his bald spot on the big screen.
I don't know if you remember.
He's like, look at how big my bald spot is.
Like, I thought that was like, I mean, a moment where he like showed some humanity.
tim pool
No, no, no.
What's really funny is the left, they don't know anything about what's happening outside their bubble.
The really good example is when they did the Proud Boys hashtag and they were like, take that Proud Boys.
Ha ha, we're making fun of you.
And then Enrique Tarrio was like, here's a photo of Gavin McInnes making out with Milo Yiannopoulos.
I don't think you know what the Proud Boys is.
richie mcginniss
Oh, and by the way, after Trump mentioned or after the Proud Boys are mentioned in that debate, Everybody was looking around for instances of the Proud Boys being violent over the summer.
tim pool
Yeah, and they couldn't find any.
unidentified
There's nothing.
richie mcginniss
Shelby Talcott and I were outside of the Chaz, and we filmed the Proud Boys beat the crap out of this guy.
So all these people from Daily Beast and stuff like that were sharing our video, but that just goes to show how Crap, so coverages, but the point the point is in terms of
tim pool
them not knowing they think trump is always complete like always outraged
They're making fun of my hands. That's what they think is happening
So when you watch the family guy episode where trump's in it, his hands are all small. He's really fat. He's got an
orange face Trump doesn't care. He doesn't
When he tweeted kafifi, he rolled with it and started doing more.
These people have never been to a Trump rally.
The famous bit where he was like, these lights, they make me look orange!
Like, he knows!
He's self-aware, he has a good time, he's laughing.
And people laugh with him and they understand it.
But the left doesn't know anything, so they're like, Donald Trump is orange!
And they're like, yeah, I know, it was really funny he made that joke.
richie mcginniss
Also, the degree to which the press going nuts about him constantly, like, the reason why he won that election is because CNN would not stop talking.
There were 17 candidates, but all they talked about was Donald Trump.
And he's like, kind of like Kanye in that way.
He understands that negative attention is still attention.
tim pool
He stayed relevant for 40 years because... He got $5 billion with a free press, they said.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Free press.
And it's not just that, it's a finite amount of screen time.
So the more Trump dominated screen time, the more he pushed everyone out.
So CNN was airing these Trump speeches and these Trump rallies.
Now they won't do it.
Now they're like, don't, don't, don't show it.
When Trump was doing the coronavirus press briefings earlier this year, his approval rating was skyrocketing.
And so they immediately were like, no, no, no, no, shut him down.
Shut him down.
He's lying.
He's lying.
It's like, he's lying.
He's standing next to Dr. Fauci.
No, what they realized was his polling was improving because they were covering it.
So they stopped covering it saying he was lying.
So they won't show the American people.
Man, I tell you, a person is smart, people are dumb.
It's amazing to me how easily manipulated the masses are with such obvious BS from these networks.
ian crossland
One mistake Trump made big time is he didn't start a YouTube channel and just start blogging.
He'd still be, he'd be the most popular president of all time.
tim pool
He would be.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
And he'd have a youth vote too.
Because the authenticity of the YouTube channel.
The vlog and like they would they would be like Donald Trump did this and then Trump would be on video and he'd be
like I didn't do that and he'd be hanging out with somebody and
then he'd have his friend be like dude They're saying Trump did this look we're filming it right
now. That's not what happened And then he'd have all these people watching it being like
unidentified
yeah, that's not what happened. He's got the video I'm just surprised there isn't more rappers that are for
this guy They've always been, like, counterculture to some degree.
They've always been cutting edge, the punk rock thing, but it's not all of them.
I'm just surprised there's not more of them who are like, yeah, that guy's a gangster.
tim pool
Think about if Trump had a vlogger, a camera guy, follow him around 24-7.
24-7.
Because then, all the times they've accused Trump of doing something, he'd be like, it's on the vlog for today.
unidentified
It's in the video.
richie mcginniss
It's interesting you say that, though, because running the video program at The Caller, we basically run all of the White House broadcasts, just the briefings and Trump's address in the Rose Garden.
When the White House Live, that account, It's like it's run the same way that it was run under Barack Obama's presidency.
And so like Trump does these things where he like gives the address and he like tries to look super presidential.
And I'm like, yo, the lighting is crap.
Like you're you're not a buttoned up guy who's like going to give that kind of.
You're right.
He should just kind of like just.
tim pool
There were a lot of instances where he's he's in a private setting where he can't film and they leak things that are like not true.
It's really interesting now to hear all these stories where they're like, Trump is talking about launching a digital news network, or a digital media network, or Trump is planning his run for 2024, and it's like, I don't believe any of that.
richie mcginniss
Where does that come from?
A source.
tim pool
A source told us.
A source close to Trump.
But when they're saying it- That's singular, right?
richie mcginniss
Is that single source?
tim pool
Single source.
richie mcginniss
I didn't go to journalism school, but I think that's bad.
You're not supposed to do that.
tim pool
So the issue is, they're putting out a message, That demoralizes potential support for the president by saying he's giving up.
He's giving up.
He gave up everybody.
It's over.
Trump knows it's over.
He's not trying.
He's not trying.
Stop supporting him.
Don't give him money.
But Trump is doing everything he can to win.
He's not giving up.
Not at all.
unidentified
That reminds me, though, that one source thing.
Remember, what was that headline?
It was like, sources say close to the president that he's incredibly lonely.
tim pool
No, that's odd.
unidentified
What was it?
I remember that, though.
tim pool
People close to the president say he has no one close to him.
lydia smith
He has no one close to him.
Yeah, it's amazing.
unidentified
That's verbatim.
I thought that was so funny, dude.
richie mcginniss
See, in my opinion, that kind of humanizes him.
unidentified
It does.
lydia smith
Yeah, it kind of does.
unidentified
That's the last thing you want to do if you hate the president.
lydia smith
Exactly.
Well, it kind of speaks to millennials who are like, I have no friends.
Like, I think all of us kind of feel that.
unidentified
Yeah, I'm lonely, too.
lydia smith
I don't have any friends.
I'm lonely, too.
Like, I get it.
unidentified
We know.
lydia smith
I totally get it.
I dig it, man.
What do you think, Tim?
unidentified
Yeah, man.
ian crossland
It's very Pepe the Frog.
richie mcginniss
Are you lonely, Tim?
tim pool
No, I'm good.
I live in this big ol' house with a ton of crazy people.
He's a commune.
unidentified
It's pretty fun.
tim pool
You know what's really funny?
These people, they watch the show and they hear Ian yell like this crazy stuff.
They don't realize.
ian crossland
It's just what I do.
All day.
tim pool
But it actually gets really crazy.
We were talking about weird, crazy scenarios.
You brought it up the other day, but I can't remember exactly what it was we were talking about before the show.
And it was just like really crazy stuff about aliens and civil war and other dimensions and just like all this crazy conversation.
ian crossland
That we're being controlled by the galactic core sending information to our brains?
tim pool
Yeah, something like that.
ian crossland
I think our brains are like radio.
So your brain basically grows like this and it's like opening up and expanding.
And I think what's happening is it's getting etched.
You know the neurons are like electromagnetic.
I think it's getting etched.
And so it's creating like a pattern, like a braille code that you read, and it's being read by an external source that's then feeding you thoughts based on the shape of your brain.
tim pool
Okay, that's wonderful.
Stuff like that.
You know, the crazy thing is... I want what he's having.
No, no, but that's what I was going to say.
Ian's not doing drugs.
ian crossland
No, I've been sober.
unidentified
Too sober for like a year almost.
tim pool
No, he's got his plasma ball and I'll sit there and we'll talk about crazy stuff.
It's a new kind of high.
And look, we've got tons of people here.
And actually, the Street Skate Park and Lounge is being built in the next couple of weeks.
unidentified
Oh, that's great.
tim pool
So Richie skated.
You pulled off a frontside disaster today.
richie mcginniss
I did.
I'm improving.
I just have to keep coming here and I'll keep getting better at skating.
tim pool
Whenever you want, man.
Come on and skate to the skate park.
richie mcginniss
You guys might regret that.
tim pool
No, of course, go see the skate park.
richie mcginniss
I'll bring a six pack every time.
tim pool
We're going to be building out the street section.
We have a detached garage.
It's going to be a full street skate park.
And then it's also got an attachment, which is going to be... And that's where you thrive, is on the street stuff.
I'm excited to see that.
Yeah, pretty much.
unidentified
You know what, I had, because we played skate a weekend or two ago.
You killed me.
richie mcginniss
Kaylin goes, did I get an S off of him?
I go, no, no.
unidentified
But I went and I, and I searched on YouTube.
I, I, I've been like Tim Pool, pro skater or something.
You know what I mean?
I don't know.
And you did that trick, that one where you... Hangs on hardflip?
Yeah, that thing.
tim pool
Yeah, so I got a couple of videos on my buddy's channel.
unidentified
But that was like 12 years ago, that video.
tim pool
That was, I think, three or four years ago.
richie mcginniss
Let's produce a new skate video.
tim pool
I mean, yeah, that's the plan.
The plan is to do a vlog, so we need someone who skates, somebody who skates well and can film and is good with music and video production and all this stuff to basically be in-house vlogging every day.
richie mcginniss
I'd like to take this opportunity to tender my resignation from the Daily Call.
tim pool
But imagine like in the morning I'm working doing my show but then Ian's you know making some crazy bread with like saffron or something and talking about galactic brainwaves or whatever.
Yeah yeah so that's the plan.
ian crossland
Working with lasers.
So I think we're gonna build a laser in the back room in the garage.
tim pool
To the legal extent that we can.
unidentified
To what power?
What's the wattage there?
ian crossland
We have a laser scientist in the house.
unidentified
1.21 gigawatts.
I'm into it.
ian crossland
What are they called?
Electrolasers?
They're those plasma-induced laser channels.
tim pool
Laser-induced plasma channels.
ian crossland
They'll ionize gas and then send a laser beam.
tim pool
So what do you do?
What do you use the laser for?
ian crossland
What do you use the laser? It's really safe. You can make graphene with it so you can what is graph?
Graphene is a monolayer of atomic carbon and it's hexagonally laced. It's very cool
Look up a picture of it if you want to see and what you do one way to make it is you take a vacuum
Chamber and you'll take a strip of copper and then you deposit carbon dioxide onto the copper by
Injecting gas into it and then you use a laser to etch off the the layer of graphene oxide
that has condensed onto the copper and you have these strips of graphene.
You roll them out.
richie mcginniss
What do you do?
You smoke it afterwards?
tim pool
I've never tried that.
richie mcginniss
What is the purpose of that?
ian crossland
You can match clothing with it.
You can sell it, basically, in bulk.
We need to create an industry where we can start mass-producing and reselling it.
unidentified
I knew a graphene industrial complex.
I knew that.
You can make walls.
richie mcginniss
No, you're wearing a burlap sack.
unidentified
I don't get to participate in society anyway.
richie mcginniss
All these people with their neoprene and their graphene.
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
We should talk to Andreas about it, because he knows a lot about graphing and what you can do with it.
unidentified
It's a very versatile... That guy knows almost everything.
Approximate knowledge of almost everything.
tim pool
We should take Super Chats.
unidentified
Yes, we should!
lydia smith
Super Chats!
tim pool
So, um, a ton of comments from people about, you know, because, like, we open talking about censorship and Alex Jones.
It's on BitChute.
If you go to BitChute, which is B-I-T-C-H-U-T-E, and look up the TeamCast IRL, it archives and backs up all of our, all of our stuff, so.
unidentified
Correct.
tim pool
You can definitely check it out.
There is, look, just a whole bunch of these Super Ray chats are saying things like, uh, his name is Alex Jones and stuff like that, you know?
lydia smith
Mass answer, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
So let's see, just a whole bunch of the same... People had their heads bowed while you were saying that.
People are saying, please put up the AJ podcast on Bitchute.
It's always been up.
The moment we did the show, it was there.
ian crossland
I want to put it on Mines and start pushing the Mines, because that site will only delete your stuff if it's illegal.
And what he did, as far as I can tell, is not illegal.
It just violated YouTube terms.
unidentified
I downloaded Mines in 2018, and there was nobody on there.
Is it different now?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Two million?
ian crossland
Yeah, something like that.
The problem is it's an anonymous network, so even if you think it's someone you know, it might not be.
But it's like open source technology.
unidentified
Okay, I like that.
richie mcginniss
So you're telling me there's no blue checks there?
ian crossland
No blue checks.
unidentified
I'm a fan of open source.
ian crossland
Actually, I think you can get blue checked, but you gotta go through a process where you confirm that it's just your YouTube channel.
Like you reference an outside channel and be like, this is my external network.
tim pool
All right, we got it going for you guys.
All right, all right.
Eric Miller says, wait, so you're telling me Chiaz started a makeshift country because they hated police, then created their own Chiaz police, and when they felt unsafe would call Chiaz police?
unidentified
Just America with extra steps.
But they were self-policing also.
Eric, like, I walked in there and I was filming just, you know, broad daylight.
What was kind of the scene?
What was going on?
And a couple of white girls walked past me and they go, hey, white guy, you can't be filming.
You know why?
Because there's black people who are filming and you're taking up their filming.
I didn't understand it.
richie mcginniss
Well, there's a finite amount of video in the world.
unidentified
I said, I can't film?
No.
And they followed me around and I said, leave me alone, please.
Leave me alone.
richie mcginniss
I'm sure that worked.
tim pool
Chaz was special, wasn't it?
richie mcginniss
Chaz was actually, like, I'm- It's a once- Is it a once-in-a-lifetime?
She was there with me the moment I walked into the Chaz.
And she goes, you were like a kid in a candy store.
unidentified
Who else was there, though?
We had Elijah Schaefer, Drew Hernandez, Julio Rosas, George Ventura, No, I was there for like a couple weeks, wasn't it?
A month at least.
tim pool
It had to be a month.
unidentified
I think it was a month.
ian crossland
Earlier you mentioned that as we go towards this technocratic evolution, that something like Chaz might actually be valuable, like an archetype.
unidentified
What I'm saying about that, my point was, is that the right thing, right?
Because if they're basically cornering us to where if we step out of line at all, we can't live anymore.
You can't exist in Society with everyone else.
So are they on the right track in terms of let's depart from society.
richie mcginniss
Let's get rid of Well, there are a bunch of people forget about I mean DC which is short-lived the autonomous zone in New York There's one right around where George Floyd died, which actually I didn't realize until I went there There's like a mini autonomous zone But that spans about two blocks there where they have checkpoints and they'd like they will restrict you from filming in there We had to do it very subtly.
Oh, wow, but that's I That's there.
tim pool
There are also in Philly.
I might still be there.
They created a homeless camp.
That's never gone away.
And it's, it's a functional Chaz.
unidentified
I think they just cleared them out.
tim pool
I think they did just recently.
unidentified
I just spoke to some, to some local people.
One thing they cleared them out, but, uh, forgot what I was going to say.
Go ahead.
ian crossland
What you can do to really make those things legit is to build them around vertical farms.
tim pool
These people couldn't farm at all.
unidentified
Yeah, that's what my point was.
richie mcginniss
You need the specialization.
unidentified
There's no one there who has skills.
There's no one there who has skills.
And the funny part about Chaz was that they welcomed the homeless and the homeless came and took all of their food.
And they didn't know what to do.
They didn't know what to do.
And that's when they asked for the vegan meal replacement.
ian crossland
Have you guys been studying the vertical farm in New Jersey, the biggest one in the world?
unidentified
The vertical stuff reminds me of that movie Dread.
Everything's in the peach tree.
tim pool
You know what they did in New York during Occupy Wall Street to solve the food problem?
There's nowhere to farm at Zuccotti Park.
So they went dumpster diving and then gave the dumpster food to people.
And I remember walking up to them, giving out dumpster food, and I was like, where did you guys get this?
And they were like, we went dumpster diving.
And I'm like, you're giving it out to tourists?
And they were like, yeah, anybody who wants it.
And I said, what do you think the press is gonna say when they find out you're giving dumpster food to strangers?
And they immediately were like, oh, and they shoved it all into a garbage bin, and they're like, oh, whoops.
richie mcginniss
In July, though, the New York Autonomous Zone in front of the City Hall there, which was just on that tiny little park, the food there was really good.
They were getting it brought in.
Yeah, it was great.
unidentified
Fancy.
ian crossland
They had better food than we would just need electricity and foods.
Maybe water, a water source.
unidentified
Oh, so maybe, maybe water.
ian crossland
Probably water.
unidentified
Maybe not.
ian crossland
You could make it if you had enough electricity on site by condensing.
unidentified
We could just use hydrolysis and do all the science.
richie mcginniss
So just make it next to a river and get like a water wheel going.
That'll be our power.
ian crossland
Or like solar powered vertical farms.
Hydrogen.
unidentified
We'll just take water.
ian crossland
Waters would be ideal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The air.
richie mcginniss
Tim, you want to start an autonomous zone right here in this?
tim pool
I hereby declare this the Tim's Autonomous Zone.
Tim's Autonomous Zone.
unidentified
What are they doing in Rojava?
tim pool
I don't know.
unidentified
It's like the anarchist wet dream.
It's in Syria.
Oh, really?
Look it up.
tim pool
Let's take some more Super Chats.
Kate McKnight says, I sent my dad a link to Will of the People.
He said it reminds him of classic Rush songs, which is probably the biggest compliment he can give.
richie mcginniss
That song is good.
unidentified
Music video is good too.
Yeah, it is awesome.
richie mcginniss
Music video's good too.
tim pool
You guys gotta check that out.
So this is Giddy Lee.
A bunch of people are saying, like, where's the episode?
Where's it?
Like, I'm seriously scrolling through all these Super Chats and most of them are like, where's the show?
It's on BitChute.
Yeah.
richie mcginniss
Just keep saying that.
lydia smith
Yeah, yeah.
It's on BitChute.
It's on BitChute.
tim pool
Let's see.
unidentified
Maybe Scriber can host it on our Scriber TV.
lydia smith
Do you want Alex Jones?
ian crossland
Do it.
unidentified
I don't know.
lydia smith
That's who we got.
unidentified
I mean, that's what people want, it sounds like.
richie mcginniss
Definitely don't do that.
tim pool
Harrison Gray says, Ian is the founder, CEO, and prime investor in Big Graphene.
unidentified
Let's do it!
ian crossland
That's been my goal for about three years.
I think now's the time.
Let's export it around the world.
tim pool
Blazing Swayze says, I coined Tim Foyle in one of the first episodes, and I've heard it several times since.
Congratulations, good sir.
unidentified
Tim Foyle.
tim pool
Tim Foyle.
richie mcginniss
Wait, what is that?
Is tin foil?
tim pool
Tin foil.
richie mcginniss
But it's like the foil that Tim puts on us?
tim pool
I guess.
ian crossland
We can make like silver foil beanies.
tim pool
Kevin Vega says, love your show.
You should cover the Peruvian riots.
The president was recently impeached and 80% of the Peruvian believe it was a coup.
Interesting.
richie mcginniss
We were just talking about that.
Crazy.
unidentified
Yes.
I didn't know about it.
I didn't know about it.
tim pool
Manez says, BS, your show shut down last night.
Elijah Schaefer had Gazi Kadzo on Slightly Offensive.
Dude is way crazier.
unidentified
Cool, cool.
Yeah, well, you know.
richie mcginniss
He's the black supremacist, dude.
tim pool
Yeah, that was crazy.
I saw clips on Twitter.
richie mcginniss
He said all kinds of crazy stuff.
ian crossland
That's wild.
lydia smith
Did he get shut down?
tim pool
I gotta tell you, like, a good portion of these superchats are just talking about Alex Jones being taken down, so.
unidentified
Come on, guys.
lydia smith
We got cool guests on tonight.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Jonathan Hernandez says, Ian is a Borg.
Calling it now when we all get assimilated.
ian crossland
Oh, no.
No, I will do everything I can.
There are four lights.
tim pool
That was the Cardassians.
ian crossland
Oh, it was.
tim pool
That wasn't the Borg.
ian crossland
Not a Borg, I promise you.
Plug me in.
I'll go into the matrix to make sure that we're all safe when we all go in.
tim pool
Here we go.
Here we go.
Evan Meschenik.
I'm a U.S.
Navy master at arms, and we use EMP guns to shoot down drones over military property.
Fun fact, they are classified as an IED when they land.
unidentified
Wow.
lydia smith
Oh, cool.
tim pool
Crazy.
Some people are recommending we do a show with Crowder.
lydia smith
That'd be fun.
tim pool
Yeah, but we don't... Once we get... A lot of people don't know this, too, when we talk about how we can't Skype people in.
I'm gonna say two things.
The first is that we don't have internet.
So running two different lines so that we're streaming to someone else and back, and then broadcasting that back out, it's already difficult enough when our internet is bad.
But the other issue is...
Dude, remote interviews are bad.
richie mcginniss
It's not the same.
tim pool
Not the same.
You can't talk over each other, you can't argue, you can't laugh.
It's like, I talk, then wait, then you talk, then you wait, then I talk, then wait.
And so it just does not work out.
ian crossland
I talked to Rob Doe earlier.
lydia smith
So polite.
ian crossland
Me and Lydia were on a chat with him and said that I wanted to go down to Alex's house compound area and shoot and learn how to shoot with you and do like a mini documentary.
He was like, oh, totally.
He's got automatic gun range.
So eventually we could do a tour.
tim pool
We will buy a big RV.
This is what people don't get.
You know a Class A RV, like, used?
It's actually not that expensive.
It's expensive!
It's like, I think you can get it for like 30 grand.
But we're talking about a tour bus.
With a bathroom, and a shower, and a bedroom, and a kitchen, and a living room.
Like, a full bus.
Class A. And they got them on Craigslist and RV places used.
Granted, it's like a 19, you know, like a 2002.
And it, so it was designed for people who were born in the 20s or whatever.
Cause like, retirees who buy these things.
But, but...
You got a full mobile house and we could do the show live.
Or maybe, I don't know, we get an actual tour bus.
That's probably too expensive.
ian crossland
Let's do it.
We should aim for that.
Yeah.
richie mcginniss
Dude, you just built a skate ramp in the basement.
tim pool
That's not that expensive.
It's wood.
It's a bunch of wood and people like putting nails in wood.
unidentified
If you guys want Tim to have a tour bus, should we start a GoFundMe?
tim pool
These things are too expensive.
But we could get a Class A because they're not that expensive.
richie mcginniss
Alex Jones has a freaking tank.
Or he has an APC or something like that.
unidentified
I feel like a tour bus.
I don't know.
I, yeah, I have.
I saw it in Tulsa and Troyer was hanging out of it.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure those things cost between 150 and like 300 grand.
Oh, those armored, like crazy vehicles.
Yeah.
ian crossland
How much are the big tour buses you're talking about?
tim pool
So, like, a legit tour bus, they can cost, like, a million bucks.
Like, the full celebrity fancy ones.
ian crossland
Wow.
tim pool
But if you've got, like, a Class A Modern 2020, I think they're, like, a hundred grand.
So, obviously, you don't pay upfront.
You get a loan, and then you pay monthly or whatever.
ian crossland
Hey, Super Chats maybe could help us pay for it.
tim pool
That'd be a fun goal.
I'd rather have an old one, you know, that's like cheap and looks like it was made for people who were born in the 1920s.
richie mcginniss
Or like an Airstream, like a nice, you know, those like bright silver Airstreams?
unidentified
No.
richie mcginniss
Those are like super... They're like actually expensive though, because they're retro.
unidentified
Those always remind me of the American Airlines planes from like the 90s or whatever.
Exactly.
Chrome, you know?
tim pool
Chrome.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, they always have that weird, like, they design RVs for retirees for the most part, so whenever I go, I'm like, these do not look cool at all.
Like, we would have, like, give me a blue one.
Just blue.
And make the inside look normal, but it's always, like, based upon the sensibilities of somebody who was in their 30s in the 70s.
You know what I mean?
No, it's because they want to use them but they use them for like their vacation once a year or something.
But if we did it, we would set up the studio inside.
like RVs rarely get used.
They're just sitting people's drivers.
ian crossland
Trophies.
tim pool
No, it's because they want to use them, but they use them for like
their vacation once a year or something.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But if we did it, we would set up the studio inside.
We'd have the computer.
We'd have five lights, probably multiple cell networks and like
So the van I have now can do this, but it can't do a full show.
I can do my show, just me talking.
We can't do a full podcast.
Right, so we would need a full-size, you know, bus.
That'd be cool though, because when you drive around the country and we could drive to the guests that are on the show.
ian crossland
Oh yeah!
tim pool
We could like, we could do a show at a skate park and be like, we're gonna be at the skate park hanging out and we're gonna have this person come on.
Be cool stuff.
Maybe, maybe in the future, maybe in the future.
unidentified
I like it.
We'll see.
ian crossland
Where's the crystal ball?
tim pool
Let's see, Rawar says, calling the election now, Emperor Trump.
There you go.
ThePoolDork says, concept, false frag grenade that upon detonation plays audio of AJ growling on the show.
Just toss him for laughs.
They actually have those.
There's a, uh, like, like, what is it called?
There's gadget shops where you can get annoyance devices, and they're like, it's not a grenade, it's a little thing, and you press a button and roll it, and then in five seconds it makes, it plays the recorded sound.
So you literally could do that.
richie mcginniss
They use that in Kenosha.
What do they call them?
It shoots out sound waves that are really annoying to disperse the protesters.
tim pool
Oh, the mosquito.
richie mcginniss
I think it would work better if it was just Alice Jones's voice.
tim pool
There are devices you can buy that at random intervals within like every couple minutes chirps and you hide it in someone's room or office and they won't know where it's coming from and it's randomly bursting so there's no way to like figure it out.
Yeah.
Yup.
They're like these little tiny things.
You just turn it on.
richie mcginniss
It's called an LRAD.
Long Range Acoustic Device.
unidentified
Oh, no, no, no.
tim pool
The LRADs are weapons.
unidentified
Yeah, those are like... Those are weapons.
That's what law enforcement uses.
richie mcginniss
Maybe they're using like a mild version of them.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
richie mcginniss
Remember those really loud noises?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No.
Are you talking about the siren?
Or are you talking about the... It's everything.
tim pool
It's speech.
It's a really high pitch just... An LRAD is a speaker.
And it's called a Long Range Acoustic Device.
And they can talk over it.
Or they can blast really high pitch chirping.
richie mcginniss
Yeah, that's what it was like.
tim pool
And dude, the craziest thing is, you've ever heard one of these things?
I was in Anaheim, and I'm probably a half mile away, and I can see all the cars in the distance, and then all of a sudden, they say, this is the Anaheim police, you must disperse.
But it sounded like the guy was standing right there.
unidentified
Yes, yes.
It's the craziest experience, because they're so far.
50 yards away, or football field away, and it's directed exactly where you are.
tim pool
So it sounds like they're sitting next to you saying, you must disperse, and I'm like, The voice of God.
unidentified
It's the voice of God.
tim pool
Yup, the LRAD.
I went to this weapons expo in Brazil.
It was really cool.
Where all of the companies show off their weapons.
There's like military from all these different countries walking around in uniforms.
And I went up to like this glass case.
And they have all the riot control stuff.
And I was like, I think I got shot with that one once.
But then the guy from LRAD was there and he was smiling and happy.
And he was blasting the noise at people.
He was like, yeah, look, buy it from me.
It hurts, doesn't it?
It was funny.
ian crossland
I think they're gonna start using those from orbit, eventually.
It'd just be like, you'll be outside and they'll be like, do not step across the street.
Don't do it, Ian.
richie mcginniss
Put your mask on.
ian crossland
Yeah.
unidentified
No!
ian crossland
This world.
unidentified
The masks.
richie mcginniss
Dr. Fauci's gonna get an LRAD.
unidentified
Yeah, he's gonna say, do what you're told.
It's time to do what you're told, Tim.
tim pool
We got a super chat from Anton Maxson, but what is this?
We got Tim, Tim's cousin, young Matthew McConaughey, smart Shaggy from Scooby-Doo, the lovely, lividly level Lydia, Justin Buston, love you guys, oh, I can ollie manual and I have a 4K Sony AX53 camcorder, I can learn, teach me the ways, resume.
unidentified
I think you guys are going to have to skate for it.
tim pool
Play a game of skate.
richie mcginniss
I mean, yeah, I'll lose, but whoever, whoever lands, we can maybe like fight, play a game of skate.
unidentified
Well, let's, let's create an iron man of, of skate competition.
tim pool
Okay.
unidentified
So there's a variety that way you have, you have some, yeah, you got a shot chance.
richie mcginniss
Gotcha.
tim pool
Whoever lands a blunt kickflip first.
richie mcginniss
Okay.
Give me six to seven years.
tim pool
Blunt kickflip fakie.
On the six foot.
unidentified
Hmm.
richie mcginniss
How about a frontside disaster, which I did today?
tim pool
On a six foot.
richie mcginniss
Oh, you have to work on that one.
tim pool
It's good.
So the street course is going to be fun, but we're only going to have three foot quarters at the ends.
And then the middle is going to be just like a ledge, a fun box.
And it's going to be cool.
And then we're going to have in the back, we're going to set up a lounge.
It's going to chill and, you know, have drinks and, you know, the cooler and all that stuff.
It's going to be great.
richie mcginniss
I'm into that.
tim pool
Yeah, people are saying tour bus for here's yo buddy says here's super chat for Tymfo Wars tour bus.
Tymfo.
ian crossland
Mystery Machine 2020.
Tim Bohr's 2020.
unidentified
Let's see.
tim pool
Max says, hey Tim, you never gave your 0 to 10 rating for the unrest.
Also, what's the chance we see an assassination attempt in this dark winter?
unidentified
That's a good point.
tim pool
You didn't- I don't know about all that.
But a 0-10, I think unrest, if- I'll tell you this.
If something happens and Trump does flip, like, he wins.
I don't know how much.
I don't know if it could be worse.
Like the amount of insanity.
Who was that guy?
I showed you that video, Ian.
How a civil war could start.
Awaken with AJ or something.
Is that what it was?
ian crossland
JP Sears?
tim pool
Is that what his name was?
unidentified
I like that guy.
tim pool
Awaken with JP.
lydia smith
I like that guy, yeah.
tim pool
He made a video and he was like, here's how a civil war could start.
Have the media declare Joe Biden to be the winner and tell all these 77 million people they've won and he's the president-elect.
Then have a, you know, because the constitutional process hasn't been concluded, have the president go through a legal process which ultimately results in him being declared the real winner.
And then these people, you know, after being told rioting is okay over and over again, are now extremely angry, don't understand what's happening, and then there you go.
unidentified
Yeah, they're gonna be mad that, you know, the office of the president-elect isn't a real thing.
tim pool
Well, it is.
richie mcginniss
But the Constitution says that CNN is the one who declares the president.
tim pool
It does, it does.
When the Founding Fathers were retracting the Constitution, they said, and CNN will be the arbiter of who is president-elect.
The office of the president-elect is just a thing.
It's like people are acting like it doesn't exist, but you can clearly look at photos of Trump and Obama having it.
The issue is not that there's an office of the president-elect.
The issue is that in these past elections, there's been a concession and an obvious winner.
Right now, there's a contested election.
It's not been resolved.
And Joe Biden goes, I don't care about the actual constitutional process.
I'm the president-elect.
That's the issue.
richie mcginniss
What happened in 2000, in that intermediary period, because if I recall correctly, right, didn't Gore initially, I mean, Gore actually called it for him.
tim pool
No, no.
So no one knew.
And there's a Photoshop of the Washington Times going around.
It's not real.
richie mcginniss
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
So everyone, it's not as a Photoshop.
You can even read the paper and it says like Bush won.
But it's funny.
But Bush didn't get access to his transition funds.
And, you know, like Biden is right now until like December 13th, I think.
It was 35 days.
richie mcginniss
Yeah.
tim pool
So, Bush had to wait a month, even though he was ultimately... Like, he was the winner.
He won by a few thousand.
The recount brought it down to a few hundred, but he did win in Florida.
And Al Gore jammed him up for a little bit over a month, and he couldn't get whatever he needed.
But that's okay!
Because there's a constitutional process to how these things function and how they work.
richie mcginniss
Yeah, hanging chats.
unidentified
My question is...
Has this ever happened before where the president doesn't concede?
tim pool
It's been way worse.
There was 1867 when they tied and so they just created a panel, a council, to determine who the president would be.
It's like the weirdest non-constitutional thing.
It was because they were worried a civil war would happen again.
Because it was just after the first civil war.
Was that Grant?
No, this was 1867?
unidentified
1876?
tim pool
It was twice, I think.
unidentified
It's happened twice in the past, at least.
tim pool
There's been a bunch of elections that have been really weird.
But I say a bunch, it isn't like there's a handful of them.
But anyway, they were worried there was going to be a civil war, so they were basically like, okay, Democrats, we'll give you a bunch of your racist stuff because, you know, the South was the Democrats, the slave owners and all that stuff.
richie mcginniss
Yeah, it was Hayes and Tilden.
tim pool
Yeah.
And then I guess it was the, it was the Republican who got the presidency though, right?
ian crossland
Hayes?
richie mcginniss
Correct.
ian crossland
He's the guy that reinstated habeas corpus.
tim pool
And then, but so he, he wins, but the concession was okay.
We'll give the Republican the presidency, but we'll basically give all of the Southern Democrats a bunch of concessions and, you know, things like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
richie mcginniss
It said that, um, Democrats conceded the election to Hayes in return for an end to reconstruction and the withdrawal of federal troops from the South.
ian crossland
All right.
Seems like everybody won.
richie mcginniss
They still had voting rights.
That's legit.
In 1867, a Democrat, like who they had just lost the Civil War effectively, and they still like won the election.
ian crossland
They still have voting rights.
richie mcginniss
That's still had voting rights.
tim pool
Well, because they were part of the country.
ian crossland
That's the United States, man.
tim pool
They were part of the union.
So they had constitutional rights.
ian crossland
We don't hold grudges.
richie mcginniss
But they were like actual, well, I guess you wouldn't call them neo-Nazis because they were before Nazis.
tim pool
What people don't understand about this is that there's a big difference between a civil war and what we had in the United States.
The United States was, states were seceding from the union.
The country was breaking apart.
They didn't want control of DC, although they did want to take it to end the war.
They were like, leave us alone.
We're doing our own thing.
And so, it is a civil war.
But typically, you know, the way our country is formed, you have these sovereign states with their own leadership deciding to leave.
And it was very early on.
I mean, we didn't even have, you know, all the states we have today back then, of course.
Like Hawaii, you know, and Alaska, only in the past, you know, 70 or whatever years, 60.
But in a bunch of other countries, you look at other countries where civil war breaks out, and it's like random pockets of violence.
So whenever you talk about the potential for civil war, people imagine the Mason-Dixon line, and like... Like regulars squaring off against each other.
But not just that, they think about the American Civil War, where they're like, the states aren't going to secede, and it's like, that's an American phenomenon.
ian crossland
The victors called it the Civil War, but the South called it the War of Northern Aggression.
tim pool
Right.
Because the North effectively, you know, invaded the South.
ian crossland
Came at them, yeah.
tim pool
You know, it's a complicated historical issue.
It is.
Dealing with questions of legality, states' rights, but ultimately it ended slavery, made the United States stronger, and the South was in the wrong.
It's just, you know, there you go.
ian crossland
But shout out to, what's his name, General Robert E. Lee, doing what he believed.
richie mcginniss
You're gonna get cancelled for that.
unidentified
Really?
richie mcginniss
Didn't they pull down his statue?
ian crossland
I've learned that he was a really good person but just had strange beliefs.
tim pool
All these people back then were racists.
Like really really racist people.
ian crossland
I thought he was just fighting for his home state.
tim pool
believe their genius home yeah every every everybody look history's read by
the victors you know I mean and we've come out on the other side of the Civil
War and we ended like Abraham Lincoln and its slavery as the Republicans the
Democrats were was the South and I think it's really funny like when we look at
modern politics when the Democrats are like bragging about how they're better
or they're right or they're diverse and it's like yeah we get it
You guys were the party of all of these really awful racist things, and you've, you know, now trying to do the opposite.
Good for you.
It's like... What do we say to that?
Congratulations, I guess?
Like, your party is literally the historical party from the Civil War that owned the slaves.
The Republicans are the ones who ended it.
So you can criticize Republicans all day and night, sure, but it's like...
You know.
Let he who is without sin cast that first stone, you know what I'm saying?
Anyway.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
We just had a bunch of people join at the same time.
Thanks for joining.
That's great.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
ian crossland
Hi, everyone.
unidentified
Hey.
tim pool
Tom's Pants says, Tim, let me come and skate video with my FPV drone rig.
I can do HD indoor and outdoor.
Yeah, that'd be cool.
richie mcginniss
Watch out for those EMP guys.
tim pool
We got it. We got it. We got us. We got to get set up for all the skateboard stuff
We're not quite there and music and we're you know, we're gonna do we're probably gonna do events
ian crossland
Once we get to that point, yeah, we've got the separate entrance to the skate park
tim pool
Very set up. Well, we're gonna have an external skate park and and and like space and like band space and all that
ian crossland
stuff So that's so awesome
Yep.
tim pool
Yeah, we had a big, we had a, we had a, I shouldn't say big, but we had, we had an event for the, for the election.
You know, you guys were here.
We had a bunch of people here and we did the show, but we're planning on doing something like that once a month.
But we'll see what happens because the dark winter is coming.
richie mcginniss
Can I bring rollerblades too?
Is that accepted?
Like inlines brah?
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
I'm down.
richie mcginniss
Get some grinds going.
tim pool
You can, you can bring inlines.
richie mcginniss
Do some misty flips.
tim pool
But, but you know, the thing is, I got no beef.
Do a backflip.
That's cool.
I can't do it.
That'll look cool.
richie mcginniss
I gave up on the backflips when I rotated too quickly and domed myself, and I really haven't been the same since.
tim pool
That explains it.
richie mcginniss
It does explain a lot.
See, now my mom tells me I have to wear a helmet every time I leave the house.
tim pool
Let's see.
Alfonso Ontivero says, Trump was lied about troops on the Middle East.
Trump was lied to about, yep, that's crazy.
Kaper2x says, Pennsylvania dude, we were expecting a meteorite storm tonight.
To be a real UAP it must slow down and change directions and radical maneuvers.
Cool.
ian crossland
A real meteor storm?
tim pool
It's Friday the 13th.
ian crossland
Oh, wild it is!
unidentified
Nothing happened.
tim pool
Trump gave a boring speech about Operation Warp Speed.
ian crossland
You know, we lost the Jones video.
That's kind of bad luck.
unidentified
That was the bad luck.
tim pool
Well, there you go.
unidentified
I'm not that superstitious.
ian crossland
Trump's hair was white.
tim pool
Trump's hair was white.
Sheldon Frantz says, 50 bucks for Tim to impersonate Alex Jones after Lydia says, shh.
Why, what did Alex Jones do?
I don't, is that when he yelled?
ian crossland
When Michael Malice told him to be quiet, he went.
unidentified
He did it twice.
richie mcginniss
Oh, he just screamed it in the mic?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
The aimbot says, can you get the Starlink beta in your area for failover internet?
The problem is right now the Starlink beta is actually They send it to you, you plug it in, you press a button, it sends data back and forth, you put it back in the box and send it to them.
It's not like a functioning, you know.
ian crossland
Oh.
tim pool
That'd be great though!
So, uh, Elon, if you're watching, please.
I would love to have Starlink for the time being.
But we're getting, we're getting Fios, we're getting Gigabit, so it's being installed soon, and...
Here's hoping.
The good news is we've been streaming on the satellite the whole time and it's been pretty good.
ian crossland
That's so awesome.
tim pool
It's like more stable than the landline.
Oh, epic.
ian crossland
Yeah, I was testing the speed of the landline throughout the show and it hasn't been working.
tim pool
Yeah, it doesn't work at all.
ian crossland
No upload speed.
richie mcginniss
It's Russian interference.
tim pool
Russians.
It could just be that we're in the mountains in the middle of nowhere and like, internet doesn't work out here.
So for Verizon to actually get files here, they're laying line, they're building like, they've got to put up posts, they've got to build it out and bring it out here.
And they didn't want to do it for months because Gotta go a long way and they're like, why are we gonna spend all this money laying out cable and like building these posts to come this like random house in the middle of nowhere and I was like listen like as I'm running a business Let me know what the cost is and then finally they're like we're waiving all costs and I'm like then why didn't you just do it in July?
Oh, but they're coming.
We just had we just had guys come down and put down conduit lines So should be should be that should be here soon.
ian crossland
What's the ETA?
Did they give you one?
tim pool
I don't know.
richie mcginniss
Is it Comcast?
tim pool
Nah, it's Verizon.
unidentified
Paios.
tim pool
Yeah.
It'll be great.
ian crossland
Dude.
tim pool
Then it's gonna be, we're gonna stream in 8K.
Just because we can.
And no one, no one will actually get that, you know, quality, but, uh, whatever.
unidentified
8K.
ian crossland
Future-proofing.
unidentified
8K, I think the PS5 can play in 8K, but we wouldn't know, because Tim can't get one.
ian crossland
I think we got, do we get an 8K TV?
tim pool
Yeah, that's so annoying, man.
That you, like, look, I get it's really hard to get a console on launch day.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But the problem is that people get bots.
And then no real people actually get a chance to order, you know.
unidentified
I mean, you go on eBay and it's $1,500.
Yeah, good question.
Does PlayStation have Halo?
I don't know.
richie mcginniss
Oh, it doesn't.
Never mind.
Yeah, I'm gonna get an Xbox.
tim pool
Yeah, new Halo?
richie mcginniss
Yeah, new Halo's a disaster though, apparently.
ian crossland
I tried to get the new Madden.
It just was a buggy mess.
tim pool
Kyle Inglis Dow says the U.S.
Army just seized voter fraud servers.
I looked into this.
It was in Spain, I believe.
I don't know if that's true, but they did seize servers that contained a bunch of like hacked or leaked information that people are saying contains like voter fraud.
richie mcginniss
Where were the servers located?
tim pool
Somewhere in Spain.
I don't know.
richie mcginniss
That has to do with our election?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's what people are saying.
The servers had to do with stolen, uh, data and like leaked information.
richie mcginniss
Oh, gotcha.
tim pool
But people are saying it had to do with this.
I don't know if I believe all that.
We'll see.
We'll see how it plays out.
You know, I'm sick and, you know, I'm sick and tired of hearing that the FBI has been secretly engaged in some sting operation.
We heard it with Russiagate.
We heard it with just like, you know what?
Over the past several years, there's always been some murmuring of like the FBI is actually investigating.
This.
It's like, no they're not.
They're doing nothing.
They hate Trump.
They're not going to do anything.
unidentified
We heard a lot of that.
And I don't want to go down this rabbit hole too much, but I felt like that was the Q community a lot.
It was like, this is what's actually, this is the actual plan.
You know what I mean?
And it was like, that isn't the actual plan.
That's not actually happening.
tim pool
Your life is too boring.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
You know what I'd like to see?
getting. Anto Maxson says blunt kickflip on a six foot challenge accepted. We could fight for it.
I'm okay with that too. LOL. Six years of boxing and high school wrestling. I like my odds.
unidentified
On the real I'm just trying to help out because maybe AJ will hire me. That's what I meant to say.
tim pool
You know what I'd like to see? I'd like to see a frontside nose blunt nollie flip out on the six
foot. I'm gonna do...
I'm gonna create a trick list that I'm gonna put up cash.
So I'm gonna be like, if you can film this trick, here's how much we pay for that.
You know what I mean?
And so then we can go on Instagram and be like, here's the trick, the whiteboard trick list.
And it's like, if you can do a backside noseblot on the six foot, a hundred bucks.
ian crossland
That's awesome.
tim pool
And we'll pay you to come and we'll cross out the line and we'll upload the video on Instagram or something.
unidentified
Do it.
Tim Pool's school for skating.
Tim Pool's masterclass.
tim pool
Yeah.
Masterclass.
Skateboarding.
unidentified
Skateboarding masterclass?
tim pool
Decently okay guy at skating.
Not bad, but not pro.
unidentified
Or maybe a journalism masterclass.
tim pool
We're working on the vlog channel, so we're gonna need art, we're gonna need people filming, but the plan was to get it started way, way sooner, but with the Fios internet not coming in, and so now our internet's really bad, it's hard enough to upload.
But then also just COVID, you know, screwed everything up.
richie mcginniss
We have a new building downtown by the White House and we bought it in March and we still haven't gotten the fiber optic line laid.
It's like 10 feet of line, you know?
And they're like, yeah, we're coming in next week.
ian crossland
Is it Verizon?
richie mcginniss
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
I wonder what's going on with that company.
unidentified
They're great.
tim pool
They're a monopoly and they're massive and they don't have to worry about it.
unidentified
It reminds me.
Sprint was just bought by T-Mobile.
So goodbye to Sprint.
We have less options.
Yep.
ian crossland
That John Legare guy sucked anyways, man.
unidentified
Did it, though?
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
How do you know?
tim pool
Did you have it?
I did, and they screwed me over.
unidentified
Oh, you did?
Oh, okay.
ian crossland
It was my first cell phone.
tim pool
They changed their contract.
This was back in like 2013 or 2014.
I think it was 2013.
They changed the contract in terms of service, and there was some clause in it where I was like, I waived my rights to arbitration or something like that, and I was like, get out of here.
You can't do that.
When I called them and said, hey, I don't agree to these new terms, they said, too bad, and I was like, I'm not, you can't do that.
That's actually a violation.
And so, what they did was, uh, my understanding is that it was illegal.
I could be wrong.
But, if they change the contract, you have to agree to the new terms.
And if you don't, they have to sever your contract.
richie mcginniss
Yeah, like when you click the thing, like in South Park, when he clicks the agree and then he turns into the human centipede.
tim pool
They changed it.
They wouldn't let me when I said, uh, you know, when I was like, I don't agree to these terms.
I want you to end this.
And they said, no, they then filed a claim on my credit report.
When I, when I said, you know, I'm canceling the contract, they're like, fine.
Then I got end up getting a bill for the cancellation that instead of like I didn't actually get it It just went on my credit report and then I had to dispute it for like non-stop Let me know what you guys think about this one time.
ian crossland
I got a check.
I sold some magic cards 2008 or 9 D&D magic.
Oh, yeah space alien a guy pay me with a check And so I went and I cashed the check and they gave me the money.
It was like $1,000 I spent 500 of it and then the next thousand dollars of magic cards.
richie mcginniss
How many cards was it?
unidentified
Two?
ian crossland
No, it was a huge bulk.
It was like 10,000 cards.
tim pool
Bro, do you know how much Magic cards are worth?
richie mcginniss
No, I have absolutely no clue.
tim pool
What's Black Lotus at right now?
ian crossland
$250,000 or something.
I don't know, a rare, good condition one.
unidentified
I don't know anything about this stuff.
ian crossland
Oh, they're super valuable.
richie mcginniss
I'll take a Lamborghini over.
tim pool
I've got a couple cards worth several thousand dollars.
ian crossland
We have a lot.
Tim and I have a lot of good cards.
unidentified
Yeah, like these were like you just opened up a pack and you got them?
tim pool
No, no, no.
These are like 20, 26-year-old cards.
ian crossland
cards back in the day we would get packs but since eBay you've been able to strategic buy
but anyway so I cashed the check they gave me the money I spent a 500 of the thousand dollars and
then the next day they said the check bounced we're taking the money back they knocked my
account down to negative 500 and then filed a claim against me
And I was like, I'm a customer and you sold me the $1,000 and now you're reneging on the sale.
That seems like an illegal thing to do if I'm a customer and you sell me a product and then take it back from me.
So, and the girl on the phone was like, yeah, that is bunk that they did that to you.
Like the Bank of America representative.
And I had no recourse.
I didn't know how to, like you're a customer of the bank.
So if they give you the money, I don't think they should be allowed to take it back.
tim pool
A beta Black Lotus, $42,000.
Okay, I was off.
What's an alpha?
That's beta.
Alpha, I don't know, but I don't even think you can actually get the beta from this site.
Oh, actually, you can.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Someone's got a Mint Beta Lotus.
unidentified
Wow.
$42,000.
ian crossland
Can you imagine?
tim pool
Let me see if I can find alpha.
unidentified
It's a card.
ian crossland
Dude, I know.
unidentified
It's a card.
tim pool
But you, but it's a, it's a very popular game with tens of millions of players and you can't get these cards because they didn't have it made.
richie mcginniss
Is it like a card that like does a lot of cool things?
ian crossland
Yeah, Black Lotus is amazing.
richie mcginniss
You can like win the game.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's, it's, it's so good.
They actually put restrictions on it.
So you can't actually do anything.
ian crossland
You can only have one in your deck.
You can have four of most cards, but there's a list of cards you can only have one of.
Some cards they ban completely because they're so intense.
richie mcginniss
Can you like, um, can you like pick up a chick with a, with that card?
ian crossland
When they find out how much they're worth.
lydia smith
You cannot, no.
ian crossland
Wait, Lydia, back me up here.
lydia smith
I'll tell you that right now.
unidentified
Say, hey, I've got a black Lotus.
richie mcginniss
I'll take the Ferrari then, thanks.
ian crossland
She's a gamer.
tim pool
No, we talked about this.
We were talking about, like, my Magic the Gathering decks, and somebody, like, we had a bunch of people over, and they were like, yeah, but you can't pick up chicks with those things.
And I was like, yeah, and I was like, that cost $10,000.
And he went, take it back!
richie mcginniss
So you have to sell the card and then get something cool with it.
lydia smith
Don't care.
ian crossland
So you can't pick up Lydia.
unidentified
I mean, maybe you could confuse somebody, right?
Somebody thinks like, oh, he's got a black, like exotic sports car.
And then you get out to the parking lot.
ian crossland
I'll give you a ride in my Lotus.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But I mean, aren't Lotuses actually fairly cheap for a sports car?
richie mcginniss
They're super fun to drive, but they're not actually terribly fast.
tim pool
Yeah.
I thought it was just like, look.
richie mcginniss
It's kind of a kit car.
unidentified
It's like a power to weight thing.
tim pool
Anyway, we were talking about magic cards.
unidentified
What happened?
ian crossland
Oh, did you find out the Alpha Lotus?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
We were talking about picking up chicks with magic cards.
No, you were talking about some kind of sale you did.
ian crossland
Oh, well, the Bank of America thing.
So they gave me the $1,000.
I spent $500 of it.
And then the next day, the check bounced.
So they took the $1,000 back and put me in the negative.
And then they filed a credit report against me.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
But I'm a customer of the bank.
They sold me the $1,000, essentially, as a customer, and then took back their sale.
So I think that should be illegal for a bank to do that.
tim pool
Rich get richer, poor get poorer.
Who did the bit where they're like, if you're rich and you put money in the bank, they literally give you money like, thank you for being rich, here's money.
And if you're poor, they charge you like, you're poor, so here's a fee.
That's crazy.
unidentified
Well, if you have like a billion dollars, the interest alone is... Well, it goes that way.
tim pool
Not right now.
Interest rates are like... That's true.
unidentified
If you have bad credit and you have no money, exorbitant interest rates, you got good credit and a lot of money, you get no interest rate.
ian crossland
I liquidated my savings account and went into stock.
I think stocks is the right move right now.
Stocks and crypto.
And magic.
tim pool
Commodities like magic.
I wouldn't count on stocks.
richie mcginniss
We were just talking about Civil War.
ian crossland
Well, since Biden was declared the nominee, the stock market went crazy.
tim pool
And then it dropped a lot.
ian crossland
Actually, I'm just in Palantir.
It's spying tech, and that is going up.
tim pool
Magic cards.
unidentified
Everybody get the magic cards ready.
tim pool
Magic the Gathering value has outperformed the SMP by huge margins.
It is basically a guarantee that if you buy a card in Magic, it will be worth way more.
Way, way more.
There was a card that came out, it was worth 50 cents.
Now it's worth, like, 200.
Which one?
ian crossland
Uh, actually... Cyclonic Rift?
That was like a dollar.
tim pool
What, really?
ian crossland
It was a dollar, now it's like $89 or $90.
unidentified
What's going on?
richie mcginniss
No way, Cyclonic Rift.
ian crossland
Dude, it's amazing.
tim pool
The problem is when they do reprints.
When they do, like, a set that comes out, and then all of a sudden, they make it again.
So, one card, it was called Tarmogoyf.
When it came out, it was worth nothing.
Then all of a sudden it was worth $200.
Then they did a reprint.
Now it's worth $40.
ian crossland
And certain cards, they say they'll never reprint.
Like the Black Lotus, they'll never reprint it, according to Wizards of the Coast, the company that made it.
So it maintains its value.
And there aren't that many of them made, because it was in the early days when the game wasn't popular.
tim pool
So anyway, I'm not confident on stocks right now.
Not at all.
ian crossland
Because of uncertainty.
richie mcginniss
Bitcoin's bumping right now.
tim pool
Yeah, Bitcoin's great.
richie mcginniss
It's up above $15.
ian crossland
And other cryptos like Ocean.
Deutsche Bank just contracted Ocean.
tim pool
I don't care about any of that stuff.
ian crossland
Polkadot is an Internet 3.0.
tim pool
There's a word for those things.
You know, what kind of coins those are.
ian crossland
Altcoins.
tim pool
No.
ian crossland
But they're better... No.
Well, what would you call them?
Trash coins?
tim pool
It starts with an S. We don't want to swear on the show.
ian crossland
Well, there are a lot of those, but certain... It's like, it rhymes with Bitcoin?
tim pool
Yes, it does.
ian crossland
It starts with an S and an H. Ethereum's actually a better coin than Bitcoin.
Ethereum can handle smart contracts.
Bitcoin doesn't do anything.
richie mcginniss
It's like a husk.
tim pool
Ethereum's at like 400... That's not true.
ian crossland
Yeah, right?
tim pool
No, Bitcoin can do it.
ian crossland
It's just... I don't think it can do that.
I think it's just a representative token.
It doesn't actually...
It's not very intelligent.
It was the first one that was made.
It's the most popular, so it tends to be the most valuable.
tim pool
Well, buy your gold.
ian crossland
And gold.
Gold, silver, copper.
Those are good investments.
tim pool
Hide your kids.
Hide your wife.
ian crossland
Water.
tim pool
You'll be able to sell your neighbor's water.
richie mcginniss
I don't care what you guys are saying.
I'm doubling down on magic cards.
tim pool
Dude, they're so valuable.
Let me look up something real quick.
I bought something for about $95.
And let me tell you what the price of it is right now.
Let me look up the price on this year rack.
ian crossland
What year did you buy it?
tim pool
I bought this four or five years ago.
I bought it for about $95.
It's worth $295 right now.
It's an Alpha Lightning Bolt.
ian crossland
Imagine buying a thousand of those.
tim pool
Imagine if, several years ago, I said, I'll put a thousand bucks into, you know, ten of these Lightning Bolts.
I'd have... $30,000?
That's awesome.
ian crossland
I was gonna ask the same question you just asked.
tim pool
Or am I doing my math wrong?
ian crossland
I was gonna ask you what card it was.
tim pool
The Lightning Bolt. $3,000.
ian crossland
Dude, and that scales up.
Just buy 10 times the amount, and you can make 10 times the profit.
I'll buy 100 of a card when they're 25 cents, and then they go up to 50 cents, and you double your money, basically.
tim pool
Sometimes they go to 10 cents.
ian crossland
Very, very, very rare.
tim pool
Someone tried manipulating the market.
It was really interesting.
There was a card called Seance, and it was trash.
It was a real garbage card.
But this guy who got rich off Bitcoin was like, he said, I will pay someone $40,000 to use this card in a deck in a tournament.
Because what he was trying to do was to alter the meta of the game.
To create a deck that used a card no one thought was good.
Did it work?
Dude, my buddy did that with Lion's Eye Diamond, and it succeeded.
of them. He was trying, he said my intent.
Did it work?
ian crossland
No.
Dude, my buddy did that with Lion's Eye Diamond and it succeeded.
tim pool
He said his intent.
richie mcginniss
It's like manipulating a currency market.
tim pool
But he explained it all. He said, I'm trying to see if I can manipulate the game meta to
increase the value of secondary market. This card is clearly worth very little to anybody,
but if someone creates a deck that is competitive, it may increase the value of the card, thus
creating, you know.
richie mcginniss
It's like what George Soros did to the British pound, kind of.
tim pool
Is that what he did?
ian crossland
Yeah, my friend Ted did that with the Lion's Eye Diamond.
He made a madness deck that was just annihilative.
And then the diamond went for like 300 bucks.
It was like a $10 card, $20 card.
As soon as it got popular in the meta.
tim pool
Crimzineer says, funny enough, I sold one of my magic decks and bought a 1988 300ZX Z31.
Also, did you see my earlier chat?
I often have to ask Google to search for your song multiple times with the same command before it gets it right.
Ooh, interesting.
ian crossland
How do you feel about people reposting that song?
Are you keeping a grip on it or are you giving it to the masses?
tim pool
So, uh, Kim B says, Tim, go back and listen to the episode.
Alex just played it on InfoWars and he did not say what they are saying.
You are buying into their games.
I think Alex deserves an apology from all.
So, they took down the episode claiming that Alex made a comment about doing something to someone.
Alex said that's not what he said.
And so, you know, apparently he played it on his show.
ian crossland
When it happened last night, it didn't sound like he said that to me.
I lost the episode, so I wasn't able to double check, but it was shocking to me when I found out.
tim pool
I mean, it sounds like YouTube found an excuse.
That's about it.
So we'll see what happens.
At the very least, it was like literally a half second.
So I'm like, we'll take that out.
How about that?
And they're like, we'll get back to you.
richie mcginniss
Well, you know, you know, it'll happen there because obviously working where I work, I have a fair bit of experience with like tech platforms and getting censored.
And what usually it is is there's there's a bot who does the initial run of the title.
unidentified
Right.
richie mcginniss
And that'll determine whether or not it's passed the first level of demonetization.
tim pool
Which was Alex Jones.
richie mcginniss
But then if you get to the next level, if you have a certain number of viewership, then it basically signals human review.
And so then the human being comes on there.
They're like, you know, there's some staffer.
They're not like up the chain, but they basically in that moment have to determine whether or not to pull the lever, right?
So once they do that, then basically now what you're dealing with is kind of like, okay, that person made that decision.
Now it's getting run up the chain.
tim pool
Well, it's on BitChute.
ian crossland
I bet it's still on YouTube, it's just in a holding state.
tim pool
No, it's completely gone.
ian crossland
But they might just have it invisible.
tim pool
So while I can put it back on.
richie mcginniss
Yeah, they make it.
Actually, we did a Jeep pie net neutrality video in December of 2017.
And it had the Harlem shake at the end.
And basically at the time, all the tech platforms, the last thing they wanted was for net neutrality
to be repealed.
And so, because it was in favor of all the ISPs.
And so, when we did that video with Ajit Pai, the next day, the video, there was no explanation whatsoever.
The video was gone.
Completely gone from our feed.
And we reached out to YouTube.
We asked them, what the heck?
And they said, well, uh, yeah.
Um, what's his name?
Who did the Harlem Shake?
Is it Steve Aoki or somebody like that?
Anyways, said he, he's, he actually pursued you guys for copyright.
And by the way, if it's copyright, they tell you this section and they leave it up and you can challenge it.
Exactly.
But they just ripped it down and we were like, really?
So there's 7 million instances of the Harlem Shake on YouTube right now.
And you're choosing us.
We only had less than 15 seconds of it.
And they were like, oh yeah.
And they just put it right back up as if nothing happened.
tim pool
Yep.
That's the name of the game.
richie mcginniss
Because net neutrality.
tim pool
Well, that being said, we got, we, we, we, we went a little bit over, but we got delayed because the internet broke.
But, uh, I think we're gonna, you know, we're gonna, we're gonna chill out from here.
And, uh, I'm gonna go to bed cause last night was crazy.
ian crossland
Dude, I was so tired after that show.
tim pool
I know, it was brutal.
ian crossland
I had a throbbing headache.
I was like, oh, and I took Mike to the airport or to his, to his hotel.
I was like, ah.
tim pool
Friends!
Check out my music video, Will of the People.
You can search Timcast IRL, Will of the People.
It'll come up.
But here's what I'm going to do.
As soon as we end, I'm actually just going to play it.
So for those that just chill in the chat, we'll play the video for y'all.
It'll probably be grainy and low-res because we're doing it through satellite.
But you can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, Parler, at Timcast.
Check out my other YouTube channels, YouTube.com slash Timcast and YouTube.com slash Timcast News.
And you guys want to shout out your social media?
unidentified
Yeah.
You can follow me at from Kaelin.
You can follow my news outlet scriber news at scriber news on all platforms Scriber news and at Richie McGinnis, r-i-c-h-i-e-m-c-g-i-n-n-i-s-s on all platforms See you there folks.
tim pool
There's also a guy named Ian.
unidentified
What up?
ian crossland
Yo, Ian Crossland hit me up And of course, Sour Patch Lids.
tim pool
That was so much cooler.
Of course.
unidentified
I am over here.
L-Y-D-S.
lydia smith
Sour Patch Lids.
tim pool
We will be back.
It's Friday, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh, I get a half day tomorrow.
Only I work in the morning.
We'll be back Monday at 8pm.
So thanks for hanging out.
And again, check out my music video.
I'm going to play it right now.
So if you're hanging out in chat, you're going to hear it and see it if you haven't already.
Because I can promote my own content on my own channel.
So thanks for hanging out and stick around to watch the video.
Other than that, we will see you Monday at 8pm.
See you then.
unidentified
Out on the march in the morning, He called his soldiers down
To take aim at the traitors And to gun those rebels down
Now the faith's consequences Impound themselves above
It is the will of the people I wish I could spare them
Make them see the path Tempting as that sounds
Allowed to pass I know what's needed for the good of my people
To save them Out in the dark
Without warning He raises his fist above
Let it fly to his people To tear those statues down
To tear those statues down, not our fates, their consequences
Not to face the consequences They held themselves above
They held themselves above, this is the way I love the people
It's in the will of the people To stand
He said, I wish I could spare them, make them see the path Tempting as that sounds, I'll have the past, I know I need
I wish I could spare them Make them see the path
Tempting as that sounds Allowed to pass
it for the good of my people To stay there
Drop your arms and arms
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