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Sept. 12, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool

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Timcast IRL - Trump Nominated AGAIN For Nobel Prize So Media Calls For ENDING It, Kim Klacik Joins

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How's it going, everybody?
		Welcome to the Timcast IRL podcast.
		I'm hanging out tonight with a very special guest, Kim Klesik.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You are running for office.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much for having me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In Baltimore.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be... You're going to win?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You are going to win?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I feel like I've already won, you know?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Cool, we're going to hang out, we're going to talk, and of course we're also hanging out with Atsauer Petulids, the wonderful producer.
		That's correct, I'm over here.
		Hey, how's it going?
		And we've got a lot to talk about, but I really just want to talk about, I think there's a really interesting, your perspective.
		You obviously had this very viral ad, 12 million views now, basically 163,000 retweets.
		Massive.
		And you basically just talk about Democrat failure in your city.
		Yeah.
		And I can kind of relate to that, coming from Chicago.
		So we'll talk a lot about that.
		But the lead story, of course, for most of you who have been following the news, Trump has been nominated for the second time for the Nobel Peace Prize.
		And wow, we've got huge news today.
		a normalization of ties between Bahrain and Israel, which is tremendous.
		Having these Arab nations recognize Israel's existence, normalized trade, travel, tourism,
		this is going to be huge. And obviously it follows the United Arab Emirates deal,
		which is also massive. And then of course, the Kosovo-Serbia deal.
		Trump has been busy working on amazing historic foreign policy.
		So, of course, now we had a Norwegian guy nominated Trump.
		Now we have a Swedish guy.
		I don't exactly know how the Nobel Committee works or whatever, but we have the story.
		Now, here's the thing.
		Of course, I can tell you all these things and you're probably saying, well, that's pretty good for Trump.
		Yes, you've probably heard he's going to draw back our troops in the Middle East.
		And now the Atlantic, I believe, yes, has run an article saying, end the Nobel Prize.
		I couldn't believe it when I saw it.
		No, I can believe it.
		It's Trump derangement syndrome.
		So we're going to talk about this and then we're going to talk about a bunch of issues.
		We're going to talk about Kim's race and your positions and what you're hoping to do and your perspectives on the Democratic Party and the Republican Party, obviously.
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		live.
		And let's just jump right into the first story.
		And this is going to be just a kind of a segue into what I perceive as like a Ultimate Trump Derangement Syndrome.
		So it's actually very simple.
		Here's the story from the hill.
		Trump nominated a second time for Nobel Peace Prize.
		Look, it's got 25,594 shares.
		This is incredible.
		A member of the Swedish parliament on Friday nominated President Trump and the governments of Kosovo and Serbia for the 2021 Nobel Peace Prize over economic cooperation and trade talks.
		And I can only imagine that with this new Bahrain announcement, Bahrain-Israel,
		there's going to be some more nominations and Trump maybe could win this.
		So great, great.
		I wonder what the reaction's been from the—oh.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the Nobel Peace Prize.
		The Trump nomination shows that peace had its chance and blew it.
		And they actually show the Nobel Prize and they've scribbled out Alfred Nobel's face.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's so crazy, man.
		So, Kim.
		Yes.
		I'm sure you've heard a little bit about these historic agreements and, you know, it just, to me, You know, I could personally go on for a million years about foreign policy, because that's one of the most important things to me.
		It's one of the reasons why I've been more supportive of Trump.
		He's pulling our troops out of the Middle East.
		Well, the first question I have is, you're obviously a big fan of Trump.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Huge fan.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I am.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Big supporter.
		I don't even know where to begin with this.
		This is like the ultimate Trump derangement syndrome.
		To call for ending the Nobel Peace Prize simply because Trump's been nominated for doing something good.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Right.
		Well, obviously, you know, right now, like you said, it's TDS.
		But at the same time, here we are coming up on elections.
		Right.
		And the last thing they want is a good story to come out about Trump.
		This is like them trying to abolish the electoral college.
		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's just like whatever they can do to make sure he doesn't look good.
		They're going to try to push it out.
		But, you know, this is what I love about President Trump.
		You know, these are the things that he talked about that he was going to accomplish.
		And so here you have all these countries actually acknowledging how great he is with the trade war and they can't handle it.
		They can't handle it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They will not allow... This week has been insane in terms of dropping bombs to just smear and drag Trump at a time when these deals are coming out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm looking at the news and I'm like, is Trump's campaign strategy to do good things as president and the Democrats' campaign strategy is to just keep complaining about Trump?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly what it looks like.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Exactly what it looks like.
		And you know, not to talk about myself and my race, but my opponent, my opponent does the same thing.
		He talks about president Trump.
		He talks about me, but he has no platform.
		This is like what Democrats do, you know?
		And it's unfortunate because I don't know how they still have people that vote for them, you know?
		And then, you know, if you're talking about, you know, just how racist America is and how you want it to change, How do you then vote for the party with no platform to change it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't get it.
		I've looked at a bit of what, like, say, Biden wants, and I've looked at a lot of what many Democrats offer, and some of them seem to be... There's a lot of Democrats who have, you know, obviously, like, middle-of-the-roads, approvable opinions, but then you'll see things in the media like this, but you'll also see, you know, a good example for Joe Biden, in my opinion, When he was asked if he was for reallocating funds away from the police, he said, yes, absolutely.
		But then later he comes out and says, no, we want more funds to go to different police programs.
		And I understand there's a nuance there.
unidentified		Right, right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can reallocate funds from some areas and then fund other areas.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But it really does seem like the question being asked of him was in line with the idea of defunding the police.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It felt to me like he's just going to say what he has to say.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		That's that's what they're great at.
		That's what Kamala Harris says also, you know, and it's sad because, again, it's just pandering.
		Right.
		But the fact that people still can't see this so many years later makes no sense to me.
		So Joe Biden's what?
		Almost 50 years?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, 47.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		You know, what has he done to even match what he's talking about today?
		Now we hear so much how he cares about black lives.
		Really?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is what really, really bothers me right now, is that Donald Trump has just nailed these peace agreements, is being nominated for a peace prize, and Joe Biden comes from Obama's legacy of increasing wars.
		I mean, and I'm not here to rag on Obama.
		I think it's silly to be like, well, what about Obama?
		What about George W. Bush?
		What about Bill Clinton?
		We have all these past presidents starting wars.
		In my opinion, I don't want to say it's a waste because I don't want to be disrespectful to the troops who need this funding for their safety and security, but I don't like the idea that we spend so much of our time and energy on these foreign conflicts.
		You had eight years of an Obama-Biden administration.
		Where were their peace agreements with Israel and any other country?
		Instead, it was conflict, it was Libya, it was more wars, it was, you know,
		a civil war in Yemen, drone strikes.
		So anyway, I'm going to go on a tangent when it comes to foreign policy stuff. But here's the
		main point. People are actually going to vote for Joe Biden when he has a legacy of war,
		and Donald Trump is staring you in the face with these peace agreements and withdrawing our troops.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That is the crux of derangement syndrome.
		I don't know if it's correlation or causation from the Democratic Party to the Democratic voter.
		Do you think the Democrats do things if the voter says to do it or do you think the voters just vote for whatever the Democrat says to vote for?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I think it's both.
		I think it's both, right?
		So right now, you see what's trendy, right?
		Black Lives Matter.
		Everyone's so upset.
		It's both, right?
		Is there an agenda behind it?
		Is it the DNC pushing it?
		I don't know, right?
		I'm not gonna sit here and talk about conspiracy theories.
		But you know, the fact that it comes up every four years, It's a little suspicious, you know.
		But yeah, I think the DNC controls some of it.
		And then there's those who get paid to also throw some fire.
		So I know in Baltimore City, we have a ton of nonprofits.
		You wouldn't know it by looking at Baltimore City that we have a ton of nonprofits to help with the vacant homes and the homelessness.
		You wouldn't know that.
		But a lot of people are getting paid a lot of money for these nonprofits.
		And of course, they're going to continue voting for those Democrats because they're the ones giving them the grant money.
		You are preaching to the choir, man.
		that urban struggle to get that federal funding and they do it annually. So I
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		think it's both sides. You are preaching to the choir, man.
		I used to do fundraising for nonprofits and the last run I had as a
		fundraising director was for a homeless shelter that was lying to people to make
		money and they were telling everyone they were at capacity and these kids are
		suffering and they had nobody in their shelters because the kids didn't want
		to go there. It's a much deeper problem and so what I ended up seeing is, yeah, they
		had their donors and they made a decent amount. I'm not gonna act like they're
		the biggest nonprofit in the world, but instead of actually solving the
		problem, they just set up shelters and then went to people and said, oh man,
		all these kids, there's How are we going to get them beds?
		You have to give us money!
		Instead of offering up mental health services or a real solution to the problem, I felt like their goal was just to perpetuate this mirage, this fake image of what was really needed.
		They never did anything.
		Yeah.
		I don't want to necessarily say where it is, but of course it was a major urban, you know,
unidentified		Same.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Democrat-controlled city with serious issues that they didn't care to actually deal with.
		And so for me, I voted for Obama in 2008.
		And you know, hope and change, end the wars, things like that.
		And then it was just the same to me, a lot of the same stuff.
		Because, again, for me, I think I was coming into the political realm with, like, the Iraq War.
		This was when I was, like, a teenager and I'm watching this stuff and I'm hearing all this music, like, System of a Down, and I'm like, yeah, the war is bad!
		And I started looking into it and I'm like, yeah, the war is bad!
		And the media lied to us and then they just kind of kept going with it for 20 years.
		Yeah, so I don't know.
		I don't know what we do to change people's minds so that they stop voting for the same thing.
		You know what I mean?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't know.
		I mean, I voted for Obama in 2008 myself.
		I was so excited.
		I was like, wow, you know, that overcoming story as a black president.
		We can no longer say the white man's keeping us down.
		Here he comes.
		Family structure, great husband, great dad.
		Done.
		It's over.
		We don't have that excuse anymore.
		He gets in there, and what does he have?
		A ton of excuses.
		And I'm like, this is not why I voted for you.
		This is not.
		I thought hope, change.
		I thought all of these things were now going to be addressed.
		So I was thoroughly disappointed.
		In 2009, I changed into a Republican.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wow, really?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That quickly?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I was really upset.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, but Obama, he was inaugurated January 20th, 2009.
		Right.
		At what point in 2009 did you realize?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		It was, hold on, he went to some kind of meeting he had with Jesse Jackson.
		And they were talking about the fact that it was so tough to be black in America.
		And I'm watching this and I'm like, you're literally the president of the United States of America.
		How is this even?
		You can't even have this conversation.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		You know, and it just kept continuing.
		And I was just I was over it.
		I was over it.
		I didn't tell my parents right away because I didn't want them to be upset.
		You know, usually if you're black, you're a Democrat.
		And I get that.
		But, you know, after talking to my dad about it, he was actually more conservative and understood.
unidentified		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why is that?
		I mean, I defer to you.
		I have no idea.
		They say that the black community just votes Democrat.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So, you know, for me, it was when you're getting news filtered in through your parents, right?
		They always telling you, you know, it's Democrats are the ones that are socially liberal.
		They're the ones that are going to help you.
		You know, if you're in a situation, they're the ones that are going to bail you out of it.
		And I guess, you know, maybe in their generation, maybe that's what they saw and that's what they believed.
		And so it just continued down.
		But then when you really look at it and you start that critical thinking for yourself, I mean, I talk about all the time, you know, most black families grow up in the church.
		That's a conservative value system right there, you know?
		And you look back at like the civil rights leaders, they were all at church on Sunday.
		You know, they talked about God often.
		And so, you know, I think over the years we just, you know, walked away from that.
		But then we continue still being Democrats, you know, and thinking that's the way to be.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was reading an article and they said it was around the time Kanye had done something and there were a bunch of polls coming out showing that black voter support for Trump was very, very high.
		There were a series of polls earlier this year, like 30%, which was like unheard of.
		And there was an article I was reading, and I think it may have been... I don't want to misquote somebody, but I'm thinking James Carville or somebody.
		They said the key to the black vote is the church.
		And that, to me, it sounds right based on the things I've seen on TV, where they have this trope of like, you know, the churches and the politics around it.
		But then I thought to myself, I'm like, yeah, but the Democrats are like the opposite of Christian conservative values.
		Like, they don't agree with a lot of what the church says.
		In fact, they kind of insult it a lot.
		Not necessarily the politicians.
		I just mean like the culture.
		You'll go on to social media and what do they allow?
		They allow a lot of very anti-Christian, anti-church kind of rhetoric, but other religions sometimes, you know, they pretty much get a pass.
		So I look at pop culture and I'm like, that doesn't make sense to me.
		Why is that?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I think we're right on the cusp.
		We're right there.
		Like, this is why we gotta change things right now.
		It is grandma and great-grandma holding on to that church lifestyle, right?
		You're still going to grandma's house for Sunday dinner.
		You know, you might not have gone to church that day, but you're showing up for Sunday dinner, right?
		So, I think we're at that point.
		Or it's like, what do we do?
		We've got to make this decision to kind of come back and understand the importance of family values and family structure and just spending time with your family.
		And so I think it's, honestly, you can.
		Right now, I believe in two weeks, we're meeting with 30 pastors in the Baltimore City area.
		And that's unheard of for any Republican.
		But apparently my opponent, when he was there in his previous terms, 1987 to 1996, he went to these same pastors.
		Asking for favors, you know, asking for their support.
		And he went in, didn't do anything, walked out, right?
		Congressman Cummings comes in.
		And now he's coming back and they're like, whoa, buddy, we remember you.
		You know, we were the pastor at that time.
		And so now they're willing to talk to us.
		And I think if we can get to his congregations that we can do it.
		I mean, my opponent, his big voting block was senior black women.
unidentified		Wow.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		And they are the ones in the church.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So you think they're going to vote for you instead?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I'm holding out hope here, Tim.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're hoping for them.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I think we can talk to them.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		The fact that they're even having the conversation is blowing my mind.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's exciting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		How does it end up, you know, I come from Chicago, you're in Baltimore, that you have decades after decades after decades of the exact same things being said.
		It almost feels like there's a lot of people who they vote because it's kind of like a passive thing and they don't actually know or care.
		Yeah.
		How do you change this?
		Well, I mean, you're doing it.
		You're changing it.
		So what are you doing?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So this is what's interesting.
		So, you know, I had the special election, right?
		This is when I went up after Congressman Cummings passed away.
		I actually ran before, you know, against now Kweisi Mfume.
		He's now the incumbent because of the special election.
		Anyways, what we found out through that special election, because we had the mail-in ballots, right?
		The coronavirus lockdown.
		Number one, we couldn't go face-to-face and talk to people, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Number two, the senior black woman isn't on Facebook looking for my virtual conversations, right?
		So I didn't reach hardly anyone, but we did have a nine-point swing.
		So all of my votes in the city, I have Howard County, Baltimore County and Baltimore City, 42% of my votes in the city came from Democrats and Independents.
		So I'm like, wait a minute.
		Wait a minute.
		Somebody wants to change.
		And I haven't even talked to them.
		Right.
		So with that, you know, now you fast forward.
		We saw with the mail-in ballots, somehow 80,000 ballots went undelivered.
unidentified		Yes, I saw that.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		How did that happen, right?
		And then, so we're like, OK, so we lost.
		We got it.
		You know, I know the general primary is coming up.
		I'm feeling pretty confident about it.
		I said, but now we got to go figure out what happened with these ballots and who didn't get them.
		So we spent a lot of time in West Baltimore in the areas where you saw me take my campaign at.
		And so in those areas, you know, we're talking to people like, hey, did you get your ballot?
		You know, did you get anything?
		And people were like, no, I didn't get anything.
		We talked to them and there was two things here.
		One, people move around a lot, right?
		They didn't have an address where those ballots came.
		And then two, the people living in the worst living conditions weren't registered to vote.
		So now our team is out there seven days a week registering voters.
		We were doing two days a week at first.
		Now it's seven days a week.
		And then my field team is out there seven days a week knocking doors and doing the sign waving and all that.
		So thank goodness I have a team that is working so hard on this.
		You know it's crazy but that is the issue.
		We've got people living in the worst conditions not even taking part in the process.
		And so we're out there explaining it to them, and I have to say, in the past, I think it's a month and a half, we've registered over 200 voters, right?
		From what I know, only 17% have registered as Democrats.
unidentified		Oh.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're registering everybody.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		We are.
		We're registering everybody.
		So, you know, independents came up a lot, and Republicans now, because they're sitting there talking to my team about what's the difference.
		And this is what I was talking about in my RNC convention speech.
		I go in, my team goes in, and we talk to people.
		We're like, what do we have to do to get you to vote for a Republican?
		And they're like, you're the first Republican I've ever met.
unidentified		Wow.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Hi, my name is Kim.
unidentified		So cool.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So, you know, it's like if we're not offering the option, I can't complain.
		I can't say, hey, you know, what are you doing?
		I can't talk to you like that.
		I have to say, I apologize.
		I am so sorry the party hasn't been out here to offer you an option.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why?
		I just asked a simple question.
		Where's the GOP?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, when I said I wanted to run, I was told, and I quote, Jesus Christ could not win that race.
		Do not do it.
		We are not going to exhaust our donors on you.
		And so I said, all right, I'm not Jesus Christ.
		I know he's way better than me, but I'm gonna give it a shot, and I'm gonna just try to make my own money.
		And if you're not gonna help me, that's fine.
		Because I've gotten pretty far in life without, you know, a ton of help, and I think I can do it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And now you have, I think, one of the most viral political ads ever, probably.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I wish I could take all the credit for it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm not trying to compliment.
		It's a fact.
		So this is August 17th.
		Democrats don't want you to see this.
		They're scared that I'm exposing what life is like in Democrat-run cities.
		That's why I'm running for Congress.
		Because all black lives matter.
		Baltimore matters.
		And black people don't have to vote Democrat.
		Help us win.
		And of course, it's you walking through the streets of Baltimore That's amazing!
		I think you struck a chord with a lot of people.
		2,900 retweets, 317,000 likes.
		That's amazing.
		I think, I think you struck a chord with a lot of people.
		Cause I'll tell you what, um, that re I know I mentioned it a lot.
		I'm from Chicago, but I watched that and I was like, yup.
		I know exactly what you're talking about.
		And I didn't grow up in the black community or anything like that like you did.
		You have a different perspective in that regard, but it's the same thing I see.
		I grew up in a city that was just Democrats all day, every day, nothing else, no matter what.
		And then it felt like things only ever got worse for us, or we only ever got screwed over.
		You have people who would just... It's the craziest thing.
		When I was told to go vote, I was told, just do Democrat all the way down.
		I was like, who am I supposed to vote for?
		Just vote for all the Ds.
		I'm like, okay.
		And that was me when I was like 18 or 19 or something.
unidentified		Wow.
unidentified		But that's... I don't know why.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I guess you brought it up earlier, this idea that if you're in trouble, the Democrats are the ones that help you out.
		But maybe that's not really the solution.
		Maybe the solution is hard work, responsibility, family values.
		I had good parents, and so they instilled in me good work ethic and ambition, and that allowed me to succeed.
		And I look at a lot of other people I grew up with who did not do so well, who had this mentality of, it's not your fault, it's other people's fault.
		So then they don't actually change their circumstance.
		But maybe that's the goal, right?
		I want to be careful about how I phrase this, but some people, maybe I should just say it, the Democrats create a dependency.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		I say that all the time, so you can say it.
		Yes, that's exactly what's happened.
		And you know what's crazy about it?
		I'll talk to some people, you know, I still show up and talk to people in the streets myself.
		And this one guy came up to me the other day and said, you're not gonna cut off my food stamps, are you?
		He's like, you're not gonna cut off my disability, are you?
		And I was like, no sir, but I just I just want to ask you if you were presented with a career opportunity where even if you you know with your disability you could do that career and you made great money and you had health benefits and dental would you then say you know what I'm gonna take that over what I have right now and he said of course.
		And I said, okay.
		So, you know, is it really, is the question then me cutting off these things or offering you something extremely beneficial?
		An opportunity.
		Yeah.
		And so I think people are starting to understand.
		And this is what I talk about on my platform all the time.
		It is the opportunity piece.
		You know, when you go in West Baltimore, there is nowhere to work.
		We are a food desert, as they call it, right?
		There's no grocery store around for miles, but it's a city.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's weird.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		It is, yeah.
		So, it's an interesting situation.
		It's, you almost feel like you're not in America, especially not in 2020.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think that's actually a really easy, I don't want to call it a policy position necessarily, but something to look for in terms of solving the problem.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Creating opportunities for people who, instead of just receiving benefits, could find a way to generate revenue and help bolster their community.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I guess is there anything specific about your district that you've seen?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is there anything specific you would call out for the representatives as to what they should have done or things that they're not doing or that you want to do?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so I tried to keep it very simple for them in the very beginning, you know, by just showing the trash piling up.
		I'm like, look, you know, you are getting all of this funding, right?
		Baltimore City, annually, 1.1 billion dollars since 2015 when we had the riots.
		You're getting all this money, but for some reason in these neighborhoods where they've got low income, they probably don't vote.
		They don't donate to your campaign.
		They're just being completely neglected.
		For some reason, you can't seem to pick up the trash.
		And this is what's interesting.
		You know, I haven't been in the area that long, but I talk to people and they say, you know, the trash got picked up and twice a week when I paid less in taxes.
		And I said, well, so now you pay more for the trash to pile up right there down the street.
		You know, rats are running everywhere.
		Rats in the middle of the day.
		You know, and this is what kills me.
		Remember when President Trump was attacked by saying rat infested?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		There was a young lady in my I was interviewing her.
		I posted a video.
		Right.
		And she said it's a rat infestation.
		He literally tweeted verbatim what she said.
		And then all of a sudden he's attacking Baltimore.
		The best part is she herself was black.
		Yeah, but it was racist to say those things.
		No, go ahead.
		No, I was just, you know, when everything came out and this was in July 2019, I was in shock.
		I didn't say anything for two days.
		Like, I'm getting phone calls like, are you going to do an interview?
		Are you going to do it?
		I was in shock because I was like, nothing that's coming out is actually true.
		So now what?
		I know my voice isn't big enough.
		I know CNN, MSNBC, all those stations refuse to have me on, right?
		So I can't correct the record.
unidentified		Wow.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		So was that was that kind of eye-opening for you to watch, to know what had actually happened, and then to watch the media cover it?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Like I was already hearing about fake news, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		But when it happens to you, It's like this feeling like, girl, oh my goodness, you know?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		And then I loved it because Brian Stetler comes on CNN and was like, let's talk about who this Kim Klasek is.
unidentified		I was like, oh yes.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I was like, tell me about myself, you know?
		And he's like, you know, she wasn't even elected to the Baltimore County Republican Central Committee.
		She lost.
		I'd been on the committee at that point for two years.
		I'm like, dude, you can literally just go to the committee website and see my name.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So he was just straight wrong.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's just putting up.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my gosh.
		Everything he said was wrong.
		Meanwhile, at this point, you know, I had been on Fox News.
		I had been on One America.
		You could see any interview and hear them say Klacik.
		He says, Kim Klacik.
		I'm like, seriously?
		So not only are all the so-called facts wrong, you couldn't even pronounce my name.
		So how much how much research did you really do on this?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, I was mispronouncing Kayleigh McEnany's name for like a month or longer.
		And I just, it never occurred to me.
		But to be fair, I just missed that one.
		That's my bad.
		In terms of CNN, I don't even think they use Google.
		I don't think he actually looked into who you were or what you were talking about.
		And I gotta say, you know, I take particular offense to the left social justice narrative because it's rules for thee but not for me.
		The idea that they could attack Candace Owens as a white supremacist, but then you could take a white man, a wealthy white man like Brian Stelter, and he could just totally misrepresent you, no one bats an eye.
		Now, I don't care about his race or yours.
		If he's going to criticize you, I think it's fine, so long as he gets the facts right.
		But it flies in the face of what their supposed narrative is really supposed to be about.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		And the fact that his show is called Reliable Sources.
unidentified		I know, right?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Kills me!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's amazing.
		And he wrote a book called, it's called like Hoax, I think.
		And he talks about the Fox News Trump pipeline.
		Yeah, it takes one to know one.
		It's about like the Fox News to Trump pipeline.
		The craziest thing to me.
		So, you know, throwing it back to the first thing we're talking about with Trump and his Nobel Peace Prize.
		When the news broke, at first there were like some tweets popping up where they're like, oh, Trump's gonna, you know, he's being nominated, this is a huge deal.
		So I just, I did a Google search and I tried to read a bunch of different sources.
		The only source I found that had a neutral presentation was Fox.
		It was, Donald Trump has been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize by, you know, this guy, he's a member of the Norwegian parliament, who's a conservative, blah, blah, blah, blah.
		Here's what he said.
		Then they added in a little Obama criticism.
		I'm not surprised.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All the other outlets were saying he was like a far-right, you know, ultra-nationalist.
		It was very, very loaded.
		And it wasn't telling me about what the guy was saying about Trump or what his goal was.
		It was trying to insult the guy or poison the well before I had a chance to even understand what was happening.
		And that's the media today.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, outside of CNN, though, have you had any other run-ins with just fake news putting out misinformation about you or your campaign?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		So, I believe it's MSNBC.
		Yes.
		Tiffany Cross.
		Not too long ago, I think.
		Gosh, what's the young lady's name on the view?
		Sunny... Hostin?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Oh, you know that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't watch the TV show.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		It's a lady show.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		They both said that we were tokens and that's why we were chosen to speak at the RNC convention.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		And Tiffany Cross went to further and said it was a minstrel show.
unidentified		Wow.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I had no idea I was pretending to be black.
		I've been black for 38 years.
		But yeah, no, it's insane.
		And what's interesting about it is I wasn't even chosen by the RNC to speak.
		It actually came from the Trump campaign.
		The RNC apparently wasn't too thrilled.
		They were like, oh, she had a campaign ad.
		That's cute.
		But I mean, this is the RNC convention.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		You were kind of last minute, right?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Very last minute.
		I found out almost like when everybody else found out.
		And so that came from the Trump campaign.
		So, you know, for her to say that the RNC is throwing us in there, most of the black Americans that spoke at the RNC We're a pics from Trump, you know, this wasn't like some RNC push to say oh look We've got these black people, but then it's like, you know damned if you do damned if you don't right because if we weren't there Then it's oh, we're all the black people You know
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is why it really is easy to criticize their fake ideology.
		I think the democratic establishment is using the social justice progressive left and pretending like they care.
		They've really crafted this narrative so they can weaponize it in either direction, like you just said.
		But what's particularly offensive to me in this regard is The RNC was doing what they wanted, right?
		To prop up marginalized voices to express themselves.
		And so they insult you directly with a slur because they don't like that you're speaking as a Republican.
		That's the go-to, I guess.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		It is, but you know, I'm excited.
		I go on The View on September 18th.
		Ooh, I'm excited!
		That's too exciting!
		Yep, I'm gonna talk to Sunny myself.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Do it!
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I'll set her straight.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm excited.
		Well, I won't go there.
		I don't want to ask about the racial components involved.
		But here's what I want to do.
		I want to jump over.
		Actually, no, I want to show this first, right?
		This is a story from The Spectator.
		Kim Klesek and the urban GOP effort.
		Could a simple walk through the streets of Baltimore expand the Republican Party?
		Now, the general idea that we're seeing, they mentioned that, you know, you launched this ad, it goes viral, and we had Billy Prempeh on, you know, a couple weeks ago, and he's brilliant.
		He's a really smart guy.
		He's awesome.
		And he made a really, really important point about the Republican Party and what they need to do.
		He's in this district where it's, I think it's like D plus 13 or some, or even more than that.
		It's like, it's Democrat.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so my question to him, which is I'll have a similar question for you, is it feels like it's going to be a really uphill battle.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, for you, you're in a D plus 26 district.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So for those that aren't familiar, that means it's like 26% more Democrat or something to that effect.
		Like it leans in that direction.
		But what he said was, no matter what happens, if I win, I win.
		If I lose, I win.
		You know why?
		Because he's there, he's doing the work, he's talking to people, and he's spreading these ideas.
		And so the crazy thing to me is, we kind of were broaching this a little while ago, why isn't the GOP doing anything?
		You mentioned, they said, you can't win, don't bother.
		But how do they ever expect to win if they've abandoned these areas?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, that's a great question.
		I don't know.
		And this is like, you know, even in the special election, I would do hashtag chipping away because you got to chip away, right?
		Before you, you know, maybe I won't win.
		But if you don't chip away.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can't say it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, positive mental attitude.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		I am going to win.
		I'm going to win.
		But like he said, it's a win when you just at least chip away and expose what the other party isn't doing.
		You know, when we did the whole, when I uploaded the videos about the trash, and I have to say, at that point in time, in July 2019, there were, I think it came down to close to 70,000 backlog cases in the sanitation department.
		The Department of Public Works is what picks up the trash in the city.
		They went to City Hall.
		City Hall was like, why aren't we picking up the trash in some of these areas?
		And they said, well, we need more funding.
		That's always it, right?
		They always need more funding.
		Then, you know, after Trump calmed down, he wasn't really talking about Baltimore anymore.
		You know, Congressman Cunningham passes away.
		Basically, I think it was not even five months later, we find out that they've taken that 70-something thousand backlog cases to 260.
unidentified		Whoa.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		And they didn't get more funding.
		So I was like, wait a minute.
		So you picked up the trash.
		You didn't get more funding.
		What happened?
		Is it because you got called out on it?
		Because people started looking into it?
		You know, was someone investigating?
		And then he thought, you know what, maybe we should go pick up the trash.
		You know, this is the kind of stuff that happens.
		And it's again, here's a situation where you didn't have to throw even any more money at it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It's not even a question of the congressional representative.
		Where's any representative for these areas to get the job done?
		Did it really come down to your efforts to finally start making people... You know what?
		I'm gonna stop right there and put it this way.
		It's like market competition for politics.
		If the Democrats have a supermajority, it doesn't matter what their goals are, they don't have to do anything.
		Because they know people are going to checkmark the D on the voter form.
		As long as there's competition in any capacity, even if it's a name only, people actually have to start working for the people they represent.
		That's why you said chipping away.
		And that's why I think Billy was saying, if he loses, he wins, because now there's some competition.
		We're going to be coming for you and we're going to go for it.
		We're going to try and make these changes.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, so I'll put it this way.
		Your ad specifically highlights the trash.
		I'm sure you're familiar with Scott Pressler, right?
		Yes.
		Didn't he go to West Baltimore and he cleaned up?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yes, as soon as I posted those videos, they came out.
		Trump was talking about it.
		He messages me and he's like, I'm going to come up there and pick it up.
		And I was like, OK, but which street?
		I don't know if you've been here, but there's a couple of streets you probably shouldn't do it on.
		I will help you out.
		So he came to town.
		You know, I was giving him some street names of where I found the trash.
		A lot of it was by Coppin University.
		And he said, OK, we're going to get our team up there.
		He mobilized all those volunteers.
		It was amazing.
		And then, you know what was crazy about it?
		The local media, the Baltimore Sun, then writes, how dare he come pick up the trash?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Crazy.
		That's why, when we started this show, they want to end the Nobel Prize because Trump is nominated.
		It's the perfect formula of their strategy.
		So Scott Pressler and a bunch of volunteers, and with you, are able to actually make this transformation, which is positive for everybody.
		And I saw the videos he posted.
		For those that aren't familiar, it's actually that simple.
		Trump said, what did he say, it was like a rat-infested asshole or something?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		A rat-infested, rodent-infested... I think he cussed at it.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		He might have cursed, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I think what happened was they dragged Trump for it, but actually someone else had previously said something similar they didn't care about.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it was Jon Stewart actually.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		There's like a clip from the Daily Show way back when where he said Baltimore was, you know, Well, our own mayor walked through the year previously and said, I can smell the dead rats as she's walking through with press.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's what I love, that they wrote a hit piece about a dude who got volunteers to clean up garbage.
		And then all of a sudden we started seeing this narrative that they were just trying to make Trump look good or something.
		And I started laughing because I'm like, oh no, you got us!
		You've tricked us by going out and cleaning up trash.
		Oh no, you've made Trump look good.
		What?
		What's the trick there?
		You cleaned up trash?
		OK, we're happy.
		I don't understand.
		That's insane to me.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		No, it is.
		And if people go back and look at Scott Presser's wardrobe, he wasn't even wearing anything that said Trump.
		That's what another, I mean, he wasn't advertising Trump at all.
unidentified		Yeah.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		That's what was so crazy about it.
		He was like him.
		I really feel like I just got to come pick up the trash.
		I can't leave kids live there.
		You know, and that's what all he was trying to do.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And he's done it several times.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And whenever there's like, they always try to push the narrative that his real goal isn't
		to help anybody. It's to make Trump supporters look good and help Donald Trump. And I'm like,
		I don't, I don't understand how that makes, like, how is that a smear against him? He's
		trying to make Trump look good by going around and cleaning up the neighborhood and helping people.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is it bad that he's... You know what, man?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look, if Trump was an evil villain and he was like, you know, yeah, I'm going to win over the hearts and minds of Americans by helping them get jobs and making the economy better and getting them health care.
unidentified		Ha ha.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's my evil plan to win.
unidentified		It's like, it's OK.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Helping people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's the weirdest, weirdest thing to me.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		That's the best way to put it.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Oh my gosh.
unidentified		But isn't that crazy?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They literally wrote a hit piece on that.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm impressed.
		I'm impressed.
		Here's what I'll do.
		I definitely want to ask you about some of your policies and stuff like this, but I want to show you this graph and I want to ask you about Black Lives Matter.
		So this is the overall support versus opposition and neither support nor oppose and unsure.
		And what I want to do is show net support.
		So this is where Black Lives Matter stands right now.
		This is a really interesting thing I noticed, that before the George Floyd incident happened, 17% net support for Black Lives Matter.
		It peaked around 25% when, you know, the George Floyd incident happened.
		Everybody was shocked.
		I mean, Sean Hannity had come out and said, this is wrong, I can't believe this.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I was shocked, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Then they riot.
		And they riot more, and they riot more, and they riot more.
		And now, today, net support is six points lower at 11% than where it was before the George Floyd incident.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, first, I'll just ask you about the riots.
		A lot of people like to say Antifa, right?
		But I've said, no way, man.
		These people are chanting Black Lives Matter.
		They're going out in Portland with Molotovs in Seattle.
		They're doing it in the name of Black Lives Matter.
		Not antifa, not, you know, Marxism or whatever, you know, people think.
		It's literally about police brutality and issues like George Floyd.
		I'm just curious on your thoughts on that.
		And then, you know, I got another question for you.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		So first of all, I am not a fan of Black Lives Matter.
		You know what's interesting?
		I don't know many black Americans that are fans of Black Lives Matter.
		You know, very interesting fact there.
		For me, this is a situation where I feel like there is definitely an agenda.
		If you look at it, you know, in 2015 after the death of Freddie Gray, we had our riots and the looting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And Adam, you met him earlier, he was there too.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Okay, yeah, so you saw it up close and personal.
		And a lot of people that were arrested were people that didn't even live there, right?
		The bad actors are almost being bused in, you know, to cause chaos and then they leave and they go to another city and do the same.
		And so it's very interesting to me.
		I don't think it's a real organization.
		I think it's a front for something else I'm not gonna again.
		I'm not into conspiracy theories.
		I hear the president's Trump's administration's investigating it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Really?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so I'm interested to see what happens because I know that I think they have what's it called?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They call like thousand currents Oh, I'm not sure.
		I'll have to look it up.
		Yeah, definitely.
		There's an organization that collects money on their behalf, and then it goes through ActBlue.
		Here's what's fascinating to me.
		We keep hearing from people like, I think de Blasio said this, I could be wrong, but there's been several organizations saying Black Lives Matter is not a political organization.
		It's social justice.
		But their fundraising goes through ActBlue.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Sure does, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's the Democrats' fundraising organization.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So you're gonna tell me it's not political?
		It's literally running money through their fundraising arm.
		I know a lot of people have had, you know, thought there's a bigger conspiracy about people donating to Black Lives Matter that goes to Biden or something.
		I don't think that's true, because that would be a weird... That's got to be completely illegal to, like, take donations for Black Lives Matter and then give it to a political candidate.
		I don't think... Maybe there's something there.
		But it definitely seems strange, to say the least.
		I don't know if you knew this, but there was another Black Lives Matter foundation
		based out of, I think, California, that formed in 2014, and it's very small.
		And the guys brought in a couple hundred thousand dollars over the past several years.
		And it was just one black dude who was like, I got an idea, I'm gonna run an organization,
		I'm gonna raise money.
		And he said his goal is to bring the police and the communities together,
		so that the police can be more familiar with the people who live there,
		and they can know who their police are.
		And he was basically saying, the proximity and the familiarity will help resolve a lot of the tensions.
		You know, like, a cop's less likely to attack somebody if he knows the neighborhood and he might know who that person is.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Probably not going to know everybody.
		But here's the crazy thing.
		They went after him.
		And apparently some activists got, like, an injunction to, like, freeze his donations.
		GoFundMe or something like that, like, seized his, like, fundraiser and gave it to the other organization.
		Yeah, that to me was crazy.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I don't... Is it because it was also Black Lives Matter and they own that, right?
unidentified		Yep.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't think they own it because he had it first.
		They just came out and said, he's not the real one.
		And he's like, but I've had the name first.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		That's interesting.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's interesting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you.
		I'll tell you what's interesting.
		You, uh, you mentioned you don't know anybody.
		You said you didn't know any black people who supported Black Lives Matter?
unidentified		I don't.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		Yeah.
		I don't.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Take a look at this.
		This is what I wanted to ask you about.
		I find this is interesting.
		So this is Civics.
		They've got 162,220 responses from April 25th, 2017 to September 9th, 2020.
		And they say, from registered voters, Black or African-American, 88% say they support Black Lives Matter.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		That's interesting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then we've got 5% oppose.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		So that's interesting.
unidentified		I, I don't know how I don't know the 88%.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe it's not, maybe it's not real.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I guess this is what, this is what I say and people that I know say, like you said, it goes through ActBlue, right?
		The money.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Does, have there any been any instances where any of that money has actually gone to the black community?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think so in terms of anything I've seen in the news.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I haven't found anything.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I've tried to do some research.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what they do?
		Because this is my insight into all these nonprofits.
		It's a very, very clever way to claim that all of the money is for charitable causes.
		Awareness.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
		Oh, I love those.
		It's like the big corporations, right?
		When you look at Apple, you look at different organizations, they put a hundred million dollars into inclusive training, right?
		That whole like, oh, we're going to talk about how to... Meanwhile, you look at how many black people they have in like their top executive positions.
		Two percent.
		2% like so you really care about black lives because you don't you don't hire any black people Right, you're not employing them and I'm not saying people should be employed based on their their color But that I find that interesting, you know There's a lot of corporations that say they have this this training and they're and they're raising awareness but then you look at their executive offices and you don't see any people of color and It's corporations trying to shield themselves from the latest trend, and it's going to backfire on them really, really bad.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There was a post I just saw recently.
		I can't remember who it was from, but I think something like the New York Times wrote a story saying, like, we mapped the most powerful people in the country, and it's like 18% are non-white.
		And I think it was the New York Times.
		And then someone showed that all of the top New York Times staff, it's all white people.
		So they want to act like we're pointing out a serious problem, but don't look where we are.
		It's seriously the rules for thee, but not for me.
		It's like everything they do.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		No, seriously.
		I was shocked when I saw Twitter.
		They have their main Twitter support page, right?
		And it was all blacked out.
		Like, they're so supportive.
		But we already knew, it was already ousted, I think a year ago, that they didn't hire any black people.
		So it's like...
		You know, I don't understand it.
		I don't get it.
		I know that they're not trying to be a part of that cancel culture, so they're covering their butts, but I don't think they realize people aren't stupid.
		You know, we see it.
		So I don't know how we got to this 88%, but I better do my due diligence and figure it out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you think there's a possibility that you're in a bubble?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you're just not around the people?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that could be.
		You know, West Baltimore, all black.
		I'm not in a bubble.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you have to, you, right, right, right.
		I have to ask though, you know, because, you know, I think a lot of these journalists don't
		realize they're definitely in a bubble.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Oh my gosh, yes.
		Yes, this is.
		So I get in a fight all the time with, you know, Richard Fowler on Fox News.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Oh my gosh.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Who is he?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		He kills me.
		So he's a guy that basically lives at Fox News Studio.
		Right.
		And he likes to come on and tell people he's a black guy about how hard it is to be black in America.
		I'm like, dude, when is the last time you've ever been in a predominantly black neighborhood?
		He couldn't answer that.
		He could not.
		And supposedly he's from Chicago, but not like Chicago, Chicago, because Jano Caldwell called him out on it.
		And I don't know what the name of the town was.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I bet it's Naperville or something.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		He was like, dude, you're not from Chicago.
		Don't you claim Chicago.
		You know, but it's there is there's a lot of people in the media that lives.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What's his name again?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Richard Fowler.
		Yes.
		I actually was just in a fight with him just last week on Fox News.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		What do you guys argue about?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Well, he was trying to tell me how great Biden was, but it was also telling me how America's policies were so racist.
		And I'm like, interesting.
		So Biden had 50 years to change some of those racist policies, but he didn't.
unidentified		Yeah.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		And he was vice president for Obama.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		So tell me, tell me again, how is he for black people?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		The guy that did the 1994 crime bill.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Super.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		He's that guy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I couldn't figure out where he was from on a quick glance.
		But being from Chicago, there's always people who say, they'll be like, oh, I'm from Chicago.
		And I'll say, oh, cool, which part?
		Well, Naperville.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's Evanston.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Evanston!
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yes!
unidentified		That's it!
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		That's it!
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Oh my gosh, that's it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Evanston.
		Look, I'm not gonna pretend like Evanston is the wealthiest place in the world, but I'm pretty sure it's like a north side, and it's nice.
		It's pretty nice.
		And there are definitely nicer areas of Chicago for sure, but if you tell someone you're from Evanston, they're gonna be like, wow, where did your parents work?
		Like, they must have had great jobs.
		You tell people from the South Side of Chicago, and they'll be like, ah, you know, slinging burgers and working in the coal mines, huh?
		But I will point something out, to be fair, although I don't think this impacted him.
		It's really interesting, we have this defund the police narrative.
		Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was asked about what she envisions this will look like if you defund the police, and she says, the suburbs.
		It's really funny when, first just to provide a critique on that, well the suburbs aren't as densely populated as the cities, so you have less people per square mile, so sure, you'll need less police, it just makes sense, but more to the point.
		To be fair, people from the poor areas actually go to the north side and go to the wealthier areas to commit crimes because you can't rob poor people.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But you do have more violent crime in the poor areas because of the conflict between people.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So if you live in a place like Evanston, I don't think you're really in a position to criticize someone about living in a hard area.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, to be fair, too, I was reading a tweet from, it was a woman, she was white, and she was talking about misconceptions around crime.
		And for people who grow up in places like... Actually, I'll ask you your feelings on this in a second.
		I grew up on the southwest side.
		It was kind of bad, not the worst, because there's other parts of the south side and the west side that are way worse.
		But there were shootings, there were drug overdoses and stuff, and it was normal to us.
		So when gangbangers would pull up and start firing guns, or when fights would break out and people were armed, we were kind of just like, this is normal life where we are.
		And then when you tell that to other people, they're shocked to hear it and they're scared of it.
		Not realizing that it's not like every day someone comes out with a gun and starts firing in the air.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But you hear gunshots at night, you know, periodically.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I'm wondering, you know, is it similar being in West Baltimore with the normalization of potential violence and things like that?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		It's very similar.
		It's to the point where shots are fired and nobody even turns around.
		You know what I mean?
		No one turns around.
		But a lot of people understand, and this is what I come to understand, just so you know, I've been spending a lot of time on the streets because I want to truly understand from their point of view.
		But people will say, we know it's usually a retaliation situation and if I'm not in it, Usually that bull is for someone else, right?
		Yeah, and I think it's sad that you know, that is the norm You know to walk up and down the streets and to see all the needles to see just everything out there and to them It's normal kids walking past it to school Normal day just walking up the street And so that's what it becomes like the quality of life becomes normalized and it's getting worse and worse And so when you're pointing out the trash, you know, you got some people that were saying I Well, how dare you point out those streets?
		We know they're filled with trash.
		We're used to that.
		You know, it's like, you know, you don't have to live this way, right?
		You know, it shouldn't be like this.
		You know, there shouldn't be 17,000 vacant homes just sitting there.
		I mean, it's insane to me, but I understand it.
		Because like you said, it's normal everyday life.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did Elijah Cummings live in the district?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Supposedly he did.
		So this is the crazy part about the district.
		There's Howard County, Baltimore County, and then West Baltimore.
		Howard County is a very wealthy area, right?
		And then you have Baltimore County.
		You go up north, it goes all the way up to the Pennsylvania line.
		Again, very wealthy.
		So when this was redistricted in 2013, it looked as if he was doing great Because you had these wealthy areas attached to West Baltimore.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then he could live in the wealthy area away from there.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		And so when people get on me and they're like, well, she doesn't exactly live there.
		And I'm thinking, yeah, I can live in a mansion over in Parkton if you want, you know, or I can spend a lot of time in West Baltimore trying to understand the issues.
		Yeah.
		What would you like to come at me with?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what I learned about Chicago?
		One of the problems in solving the problems is that if the people who live there are not receiving any kind of support from their locals, and they're just going about their lives, and there's trash everywhere, and there's violence, what I hear from people outside saying, we're gonna solve this problem, and you ask them, Do you know why there's violence in Chicago?
		And I don't wanna put you on the spot, but I'm curious what your thoughts are not living in Chicago.
		Do you know what the cause of... You've heard about Chicago gun violence and they call it Chirac.
		Do you know what causes the violence?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I would think everything around it, right?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		The education system, the lack of opportunity.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That is the best answer I've heard so far.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		People always say gangs.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		It's not true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They think that gangs are fighting over Terrence stuff and it's not.
		It really does have to do with the living conditions, the standard of living, the culture, the education.
		I went on what's called night crawling.
		So a local journalist, we met up at like, you know, two in the morning or whatever.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		This sounds so fun already.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh man, but I don't know.
		If you want to be a journalist tracking murders and stuff and like reporting on this stuff, it takes a strong stomach, I'll tell you what.
		You need a strong heart and a strong stomach to see some of these things.
		But some of the stories that we went to, it was, in one instance, somebody had a personal argument on social media.
		And so they drove up and started shooting into a building they thought belonged to the person and it didn't.
		And two people were killed.
		Another story, another shooting we found was a guy was gunned down on the sidewalk because he was smack-talking the other guy on social media.
		I kid you not.
		So it turned out a lot of these killings were basically just people had beef and they For whatever reason, they were like, the solution to my
		problems, if you talk smack to me, I kill you.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So it really does not have a lot to do with gangs.
		And if you don't understand the community, the culture, and how to solve those problems, because you're just assuming
		there's like some buzzword that can be the easy...
		It's like they think there's an easy solution where it's like, if I just take this one piece out of the puzzle, then the problem's solved.
		Not realizing it's systemic.
		It's education.
		It's lack of leadership.
		And I believe a lot of it has to do with what we were talking about earlier.
		When there's one party rule, there's no competition.
		No one has to come in and say, here's my proposal.
		And when the locals try, they're completely ignored.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I wonder, you know, and when I hear about, when I asked about Elijah living in the district, do you think that they gerrymandered on purpose so that they can live in a wealthy, clean area and then represent and ignore?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		It was that, and then also, so you have to understand also, in Baltimore City we have 13 high schools where kids graduate unable to do basic math or read or write, right?
		And so a lot of those schools are in the West Baltimore area.
		But if you put those on with the schools in Howard County, which are great, right?
		And in Baltimore County, Sparks, all that, then it doesn't look like the schools are that bad, right?
		So it was literally like They were just making sure, like, OK, yeah, we got this problem, but, you know, put the good areas over it.
		Hopefully nobody sees it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That it averages out.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		And that's what it was about.
		And that's what it was about.
		And so Governor Martin O'Malley actually admitted to redistricting some areas to do, you know, that.
		And so now, yeah, they're going to look at drawing the lines.
		But this is why.
		Chipping away is so important because if they redistrict and you've been chipping away in some of these areas and it actually makes sense like okay Howard County and Baltimore County have a lot more in common than anybody in West Baltimore when they redistrict chipping away might equal in a Republican win you know and so it's like but if we don't chip away again we're just not in the running So it's just, and just to clarify the idea of chipping away, it's just trying to build up as much support for the Republicans slowly, even if it's a little bit.
		Yes.
		And then it takes work.
		I know a lot of people don't, you know, I understand politics.
		Not everybody in government wants to work, but it does.
		It takes grassroots efforts.
		It takes you getting out there and working every single day.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So let's talk about your campaign.
		You became a Republican, you said, in 2009.
		Yes.
		What about the Republican Party did you feel like was a better fit for you?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I think just the whole aspect of personal responsibility.
		Like that's how I was raised.
		My father was a disciplinarian, but he also says when you take personal responsibility, he says, Kim, this is the greatest country in the world, right?
		People are coming here because of the opportunities here.
		Yeah.
		When you look at, and this is one of my things about Black Lives Matter, but I won't go off on a tangent.
		When you look at African immigrants that come to this country, right?
		They are black, right?
		By all appearances.
		There's a lot of them that are very black, right?
		And you're telling me, Black Lives Matter people are saying, you're being pulled over because you're black.
		You're being stopped because you're black.
		I have yet to see a hashtag Nigerian name or hashtag name from like Ghana, Cameroon, right?
		You don't see names like that hashtagged.
		But they're by all appearances black.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So obviously that doesn't... Did you see that NBA story where they were striking over the Jacob Blake thing?
		Yahoo Sports included this passage where they said, some NBA players have taken to purchasing Teslas because they believe cops won't expect a black man to be driving a Tesla.
		And it was the most ridiculous thing I heard.
		Because I'm like, dude just wanted to buy a Tesla.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think the cops are like, a Tesla?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's probably a white guy driving that car.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Right, so I'll leave that alone.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's breaking the law.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'll leave him alone.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, in the middle of the hood, Tesla.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Actually, I had an interesting experience when I was like, I think I was like 19.
		I met a guy from Haiti.
		I worked with him at O'Hare Airport.
		And I didn't know him very well.
		But he said he didn't like how in the U.S.
		they try and do all of these politically correct terms for people like Asian-American, African-American.
		And he was like, I'm from Haiti.
		He's like, I'm not an African-American.
		I'm Haitian.
		Like, don't call me that.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's very it's very weird how I think a lot of You know what, man?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's been more and more ever since, especially with Black Lives Matter, that I've started to feel like a lot of the racism we see is actually driven by the Democrats and the progressive left.
unidentified		Absolutely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I know it's kind of cliche to say to someone who's a Republican and been a Republican for a long time, but here I am being like, hey, wait a minute!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're the ones saying things like voter ID is racist.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But actually, yeah, let's do this.
		Let me ask your thoughts on voter ID.
		What do you think?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		So this is my idea.
		So you're saying because I'm black, I can't get an ID to go vote.
		If that is what you're saying, that is racist to say, okay?
		So you're basically saying that black people Don't get their driver's license, don't have a state ID, aren't smart enough to do it, aren't smart enough to bring it to go vote, no.
		For almost everything, you need an ID, right?
		This is again, just like we see with the mail-in voting, right?
		Like I said, all the ballots.
		It's about, you know, a way they can be fraudulent in the process.
		It has nothing to do, but they love to use us as like this thing, oh, wait a minute, let's think about the blacks.
		Can they can they rise to the occasion?
		I don't know.
		Let's put the brakes on this.
		But, you know, but it's always and I hate to say it, but it's a lot of times it's white officials that are saying that blacks can't handle it.
		You know, when do we get the microphone and tell you what we can handle?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you see that Ami Horowitz video?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I did not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He went to Berkeley and he asked a bunch of white college students, how do they feel about voter ID?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they all said it's racist.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I saw this video.
unidentified		I did.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I did.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it is one of the funniest videos for me.
		Again, I didn't grow up in a black area.
		I grew up in a relatively mixed poor area, but it still kind of resonated to me to see regular people understanding.
		I'll put it this way.
		I hate elitism.
		And this progressive racism is like the epitome of ivory tower elites.
		They think they're better.
		If you look at the data, these progressives tend to be wealthy, college-educated white people.
		And they think they're smarter than everybody.
		And they think they're the saviors of all these poor races.
		But in reality, that mentality is them thinking they're superior to other races.
		So when I see that video, and my favorite part of it is when Ami Horowitz asks this middle-aged black dude,
		Black dude, you know where the DMV's at?
		He goes, oh yeah, it's over on 25th Street.
		As if he's giving directions, like of course he knows where the DMV is.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you know anybody who doesn't have an ID?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I don't.
		But this is, you know, I don't know if a lot of people have seen that video of Candace Owens in front of Congress.
		And I think Jim Jordan was asking questions and there were three white women telling her how oppressed Black people are.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I remember that.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		She had on the blue blazer and she's like, that's interesting.
		I've been black my entire life and I am not feeling oppressed today, but I'm so glad these three white women are telling me this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Isn't Candace kind of like, isn't she rich?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like I'm assuming she's very successful.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I mean, I would think so.
		Um, you know, I, even if she isn't rich, she's not oppressed.
		Right.
		And you know, it's amazing to me, but again, this is what we see all the time.
		You know, people actually look at the crowd and some of these Black Lives Matter protests or riots.
		A lot of times it's white people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Oh, totally.
		With the Black Lives Matter shirts on.
		And I'm like, well, where are the black people?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know?
		I heard a story out of, I think it was Portland, where a woman was like yelling at protesters,
		where are the black people at?
		Because it was a bunch of white people riding and acting a fool.
		And she was like, what is this?
		Like, what are you people doing?
		There's, you're, you're not, there, there's actually a bunch of videos like this though.
		There's one video where black women stop Antifa from trying to graffiti and start fires.
		And it's crazy.
		In one of them, there's like this white woman spray painting and two black women are like, stop bringing that stuff to our neighborhood.
		And the white women actually say to the black woman, no, no, it's okay.
		We're helping you.
		And we're like, we're fighting for you.
		And it's like, dude, you're destroying their neighborhood.
		You're not helping them at all.
		Right.
		I bring this up a lot.
		I have to, though.
		But do you know about what's going on with repeal Prop 209 in California?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Somewhat.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's the Democrats wanting to repeal the civil rights provisions in the Constitution.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Am I just naive or is the Democrats opposing civil rights and they're pushing racist policies and they think many of them, not all of them, but they think they're superior and they're the saviors and all that stuff?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, you're absolutely right.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		If you take a good look at, and this is why I think we're always being divided into these little boxes, you know, like your friend was saying, the Asian Americans, the African Americans, even though he was Haitian, it's almost as if we're now pushing segregation, you know?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think we definitely are.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		And it's like, what are we doing?
		What are we doing?
		We're rolling back so much of what we fought for.
		And if civil rights leaders were alive today, like Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., who was telling people, don't judge me based on my color of my skin, but the content of my character, that's the opposite of what we're doing today.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Have you seen that book from Ibrahim?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Ibrahim X Kendi.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is it Abraham or Ibrahim?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I-B-R-A-M.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ibrahim?
		Have you heard of him?
		He's got one of the top books in anti-racism.
		There's a book he wrote called How to Be Anti-Racist.
		There's a passage that says, He said something like, if discrimination is creating equity, then it is racist.
		If it's creating inequity, it's racist.
		If it's creating equity, it's anti-racist.
		Therefore, the only solution to past discrimination is present discrimination.
		And the only solution to present discrimination is future discrimination.
		Quite literally saying, we must discriminate based on race.
		So when I see that that book is a top, is a bestseller, and then you look at like White Fragility, and there's many other books in a similar vein, and it's not just white people who write it, it's also black people, it's also, you know, it's people of all races.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		You see Oprah Winfrey pics.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they're straight up saying we got to be racist.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But they're trying to change the definition of racist so that they like, I guess it seems like at certain points these people realized we don't like racism.
		We want to be just friends and hang out and break bread and, you know, stand by the water cooler talking about what we like.
		And they realized that if they were going to bring back segregation and discrimination, they had to alter the definition of racism.
		And so that's what they've done.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now it means prejudice plus power, and you have to have institutional authority or something like that.
		So now when they write books, quite literally saying that, for one, they are avowed racists.
		Like, you've heard of white fragility.
		The woman straight up says she's uncomfortable if she walked into a room full of black people.
		That's crazy to me.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then she's going to start essentially lecturing everyone else on their behavior and people adopt this.
		So for me, having grown up, I'll put it this way, I grew up pretty lefty when I was younger.
		Became kind of just like, around the Obama time, I was like more of a moderate, still kind of progressive, and voted for Obama the first time.
		And I'll tell you for me, when I snapped, it was like literally a month later when he drone bombed a village of women and children and I was like, Yeah.
		Yeah, like so much for that I guess and I tried to be optimistic like maybe he's got to wind things down
		No.
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because he just came in and no no No
		So so for me that was like I'm out but I think there's a lot of people who have always been
		outside of The Democratic Party and have viewed them as always racist
		because their history was racist Yeah, and so I don't I don't I don't know what happened in
		that period after civil rights up until whatever's going on now
		But it definitely feels like they're going backwards.
		They're rewinding the clock towards segregation.
		We just had that story out of University of Michigan-Dearborn where they created a non-POC cafe.
		Stop.
		I wish we were joking.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		You stop.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not kidding.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not kidding.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		We were joking.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They they didn't.
		They they they they fake apologized for it like they have.
		So basically they did a POC cafe.
		They're not physical spaces.
		OK first clarified.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		OK.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They were like digital digital roundtables and they had one just
		for they said non POC.
		I think we know what that means.
		The white people.
		And they said it's facilitated by a white person for... It's facilitated by non-POC with non-POC to talk about their non-POC feelings and community.
		And then they had the POC one.
		And I'm just like, yo.
		Right?
		Is that where we're going?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		So wait, so when did they meet and hear about each other's feelings?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if it happened.
		They issued an apology for the terminology they used.
		They said, we're so sorry about the terms we used to describe our quote-unquote cafe.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		It's not even a productive situation.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Seriously not.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I mean, this is awful.
		You know what really kills me?
		I love when liberals get really upset when they say, oh, someone's racist.
		And then that said person is racist, that they're claiming is racist, then says, well, I'm not racist.
		I have black friends.
		And they're saying, oh, that's just a racist thing to say.
		I'm like, no, it's not.
		OK, racists don't have black friends.
		Right.
		They don't.
		They don't.
		And so, you know, it's now it's like just attack everybody and anybody that is not a person of color and tell them basically they are racist and they harbor these Yeah.
		What does Candace Owens say that makes her a white supremacist in their eyes?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I mean, look, even if... I can't even say it.
		She doesn't talk about anything pertaining to white people in that regard.
		She talks about responsibility, conservatism, the black family.
		I'm like, what, where, where, where in that is race?
		Where in that is her supporting whiteness or whatever?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I guess when you look at the, the, the weird definitions, if you, if you've seen like there was something, um, it was in the Smithsonian.
unidentified		What was it?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		It was like the, the, um, National Museum of African American History or something.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Have you seen this chart where they explain what whiteness is?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I think I did see this.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Man.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Truly amazing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is really a huge smack in the face for me being like, I still consider myself to be liberal.
		I just don't think the Democratic Party represents what I, you know, what I look for anymore.
		It said hard work is a trait of whiteness.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I saw that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Are you nuts?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		And then being on time.
		Wasn't that a thing?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Being on time.
		I was like, wow.
		I mean, it's sad.
		I don't know where we're going, but you know, this is why I'm glad I'm running for office.
		And I hope more people that feel like we're going in a dangerous situation run for office as well.
		I always consider myself, because I've had a nonprofit for eight years, fiscally conservative, socially liberal.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, how do you, so can you tell me a little bit about your nonprofit, about your efforts there?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Because that was really interesting to me.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		So I started it, basically I was working at a hotel in Georgetown University, Hotel and Conference Center.
		I moved to Baltimore about 10 years ago when I met my husband, right?
		Now, at that point, fiance.
		And the commute was a long commute, two hours one way.
		He's like, just stay home, you know?
		But, you know, you can only do so many loads of laundry where you're just like, okay, I'm smarter than this.
		Not to say it's a bad thing, but I wasn't even taking care of any kids.
		I was just sitting there at home.
		So I wanted to start a non-profit to help young women that might have had traumatic life experiences but were overcoming and doing well.
		Very good.
		And so I decided to help these young women with prom.
		And these are girls that basically had good grades, had a plan after high school, whether it was college or going straight to work, you know, that couldn't afford prom.
		And so I would collect prom dresses.
		I took all these prom dresses into this high school and the girls are like looking at the dresses and they're like, oh my god.
		And I'm like, yes, I got so many.
		They're like, no, are these from 1982?
		Where did you get these dresses?
		And I'm like, OK, you've got a point there.
		So we actually took those dresses.
		We sold them on eBay.
		And with that money, we actually bought them dresses.
		And then we were able to spend money on their hair and their makeup.
		And they had like these whole makeovers.
		And it was awesome.
		But when I went to one of the prom send-off parties, one of the moms came to me and she was like, you know, I wish I could offer you something to eat.
		You know, she's like, you can come and sit down.
		In their living room, there was like lawn chairs for their furniture.
		And, you know, I know this young woman would tell me all the time how their electricity was on and off.
		And she was sometimes doing her homework by candlelight.
		Yes.
		And so I'm talking to the mom and she was like, I would love to go back to work.
		I just don't know how to do it.
		And then a light bulb comes on, right?
		And you're like, oh, wait a minute, Kim.
		If you get parents, you know, back to work, of course they can afford prom and everything else.
		So I, I totally switched gears after the first year.
		Um, and I started helping women coming out of incarceration, rehabilitation and homelessness.
		through nonprofits that already existed.
		Their employment specialist would call us and say, hey, can you get her ready for a job interview by Tuesday?
		And so we were still collecting these donated clothing and then just selling them on eBay
		and we would give them entire makeovers.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		We said wow a lot this episode.
		Over 200 women become gamefully employed.
		30% went on to be financially independent.
		But that's, to me, the only way you're gonna lift anyone out of poverty is with employment.
		And so I think people need to understand that, you know?
		And, you know, that's why that's, you know, a major part of my platform is people becoming independent.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		So, to me, that's like, that's really unusual because it's so consistent between what you say about wanting people to take personal responsibility and your, you know, your nonprofit and getting these girls to take responsibility and rewarding them for doing so and then doing the same with women who wanted to go back to work.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I think that's a wonderful thread to carry through.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Thank you.
		And it's so simple, right?
		So we didn't get any funding.
		We didn't get any grant money.
		We didn't get anything.
		We were just like, all right, how do we make money?
		eBay!
		You know?
		And it's just literally just taking a regular idea and saying, all right, this is how we got to tackle the issue.
		But this is what's crazy about it.
		Like, I'm a college dropout myself.
		I didn't finish.
		It wasn't for me.
		I dropped out.
		But here we have these politicians that with all these degrees and they supposedly know all this stuff, right?
		And they could come up with these innovative ideas.
		Yet no one seems to be able to tackle this situation that we see in the inner cities.
		And it's like, well, are you really the smart guy?
		I think you're smart enough to do it.
		You just don't want to do it.
		And that's where I have the issue.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Dependency.
		Yeah.
		If you had a bunch of free thinking, independent people, they wouldn't want to vote for you and they want guaranteed votes.
		If you are stuck on benefits, and I know people who have gone through this where it's very difficult to get off the cycle, then you're going to keep voting for the person who says, don't worry, I'll keep it coming.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's a bummer.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		It is a bummer.
		And this is why, you know, I really started doing some research.
		And I don't know if people are familiar with Duran Smith.
		He works with the Trump administration.
		He helped with prison reform and the First Step Act.
		And, you know, everyone says, oh, he's that one black guy that works at the White House and the West Wing.
		It's like, he's not the only black guy.
		He's just like the one with the biggest position over there.
		But, you know, he talks about how, you know, you've got Section 8, right?
		Section 8 housing vouchers.
		With those vouchers, it came with basically having the man leave the home so the women could get them.
		And that's still how it is today.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's awful.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		But then, you know, he said, I started thinking like, you know, if you've got Section 8, is there a Section 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7?
		And so he looked it up and, you know, we're looking at it.
		Section 3 says the same thing as Section 8, but the dad can stay in the home.
unidentified		Wow.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		So why on earth, and this is one of those things I talked about with Richard Fowler, if you could change the policies, right, to make things a little bit better in the black community like Joe Biden supposedly wants to do 50 years later, why not replace Section 8 with Section 3?
		If that's where you want people to be, dependent, and then to me that brings in, what, two incomes in the household, You know, then you're weaning people off of it.
		The father's still in the home.
		You've got the family structure piece.
		Why did we go with Section 8 over Section 3?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you see the Black Lives Matter mission statement?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		How they want to dismantle the family?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Disrupt the nuclear family structure or something to that effect.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why would they want to do that?
		We've looked at a bunch of studies and right now some of the data I've read says they don't know necessarily if it's a father and a mother or just two parents in general.
		It might just be as simple as two parents because you have double income and you have someone to be with the kid.
		But regardless, the data shows that two parents, a traditional family structure, or however, as long as it ends up with the parents, you know, being able to raise their kid, they prosper.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And in single-parent households, they struggle.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or they're more likely to, I should say.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not a guarantee.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why would you actively try to encourage that?
unidentified		Right.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		The only thing I can think of is there aren't actually black people writing the mission statement for Black Lives Matter.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't be surprised.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		That's the only thing I can think of.
		Because if you are black, you know, what is it, about 70% black children are living in a single mother household.
		We know which friends became successful and which ones didn't.
		And we know what their childhood was like.
		That's not news to us.
		They do have that data down, right?
		But we know that just based on how we grew up and who we grew up around.
		So it makes no sense.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So let's go to some policy stuff.
		You've got policies on your site.
		What do you want to do?
		First of all, what's your pipe dream?
		What's your pie in the sky?
		When you get elected, you've got some things you want to do.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		So, first and foremost, like I said, I talk about employment, right?
		But not just jobs, right?
		We're always talking about raising the minimum wage.
		What about careers, right?
		Some real good salaries with benefits.
		As we saw with the lockdown, we relied on other countries for PPE.
		Why not bring that billion-dollar medical equipment industry right back to America, right?
		That would bring back this, you know, we were a manufacturing powerhouse at one point in Baltimore.
		We have the second largest busiest port at one point right there in Baltimore City, right?
		Our port is the same size as a port in Connecticut where they've got the submarines, you know, they've got the windmills, all the jobs, right?
		They've got so much going on there.
		We have the same exact size.
		And we've got, what, two cruise ships coming in a week?
		Going back out.
		We're not utilizing it all.
		So this is what I talk about a lot.
		This is what I talk about with Duran over at the White House.
		And this is why President Trump tweeted, you know, Kimberly Klasick will bring it back and bring it back fast because he knows that we've been having these conversations.
		Opportunity zones.
		A big deal.
		The Trump administration in the past four years has taken $75 billion and invested in Opportunity Zones in these Democrat cities that have been just left neglected.
		What's interesting about it is when you look at the Opportunity Zone map in Baltimore City, you will see that the neighborhoods that I was walking in in my video, Sandtown, Easterwood, Carrollton Ridge, those areas were left out of the map.
		And what's interesting about it is my opponent writes this op-ed saying it was President Trump, but he did not, he didn't do the Opportunity Zone map.
		That was left up to local leaders, right?
		But people believe that because they don't do their research and see, you know, who wrote this map.
		So anyway, so I actually took some community leaders in January down to the White House to meet with Duran and talk about what they can do.
		And I posted that picture not too long ago.
		You know, we had something back in the day, I think it was called Empowerment Zones, which is similar.
		And I actually got a lot of crap from some Republicans on Twitter.
		Because I said, you know, we had something similar.
		It didn't really work because we gave local leaders way too much power and control.
		I said, if we do Opportunity Zones right in Baltimore City, we're going to have to do a carve out because our local officials are way too corrupt and we're going to be in the same situation.
		Just because I said, I like Trump's Opportunity Zones, but I'm going to request a carve out.
		I got a phone call from Black Voices from Trump and they said, how dare you say that?
		I was like, dude, what?
		No, look at Baltimore.
		Look at our history.
		Bill Clinton did the same thing with empowerment zones.
		It didn't work.
		Local officials got involved, right?
		So anyways, they weren't happy about that.
		But I did go down and I talked to Jaron about it.
		You know, we were looking at it and he goes, you know what?
		You're right.
		You're right.
		There needs to be a carve out or we need to change the structure here.
		So that's my big push.
		As we know, there is a trucker shortage across this country.
		I know, you know, eventually, you know, technology will probably give us what?
		Trucks that drive themselves, the drones are dropping off boxes.
		But we're not at that point yet, and we have a lot of people in the area that could benefit from going to that CDL six-week program to get their license.
		Yeah, and we, you know, the six weeks $2,000 per person.
		We are supposedly getting 1.1 billion dollars a year.
		I don't know where it is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Someone's pockets are lined with gold.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		But, you know, when I talk to people in the area, they say, you know, that would be great.
		We would love to do something like that.
		And that's an easy class.
		There's nonprofits, Maryland New Directions.
		There's all these people that actually do the behind-the-wheel training, all states involved in it.
		Six weeks.
		Six weeks we can get someone, you know, these trucker positions.
		You know, we've got Amazon right there in Baltimore, too.
		And, you know, I would hope that we would offer them more warehouse spaces that we could actually do this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Even if we get these self-driving trucks, we need local drivers, because the self-driving trucks stop outside the cities, and then you need a driver to bring them in.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So that would be huge.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point there, Tim.
		And then, of course, education.
		I'm talking about school choice.
		So this is the easiest way I've been able to explain it, where people are able to digest it.
		I say, look, you know your schools are not that great in this area, right?
		Sometimes schools need a little competition.
		We do have some charter schools and they do great.
		But I say, just think, if you say, you know, your kid has always wanted to run track and you think they'd be really good at it.
		Just think if you could send your child to a school with an actual track team.
		Just think if you could send your child to a school with a golf team or a swim team and you know that they would excel at this.
		And they're like, yes, I want that opportunity for my child.
		I mean, look at look at the way the college system is set up with minority scholarships.
		You know, my stepson, he wanted to play golf.
		You know, like, yes, go play.
		Right.
		You know, here is a black American wanting to play golf and he was good.
		You know, go get those offers.
		Go get the scholarships.
		Those opportunities exist.
		They're already there.
		So there's things that you can do.
		And that's how I really explain school choice.
		I mean, we got to do something with the education system anyways.
		Baltimore City CEO, the public school CEO, Sonia Sanchelis makes $350,000 a year.
unidentified		Wow.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		But why?
unidentified		Oh my gosh.
		A lot of money.
		Exactly. Oh my gosh. Exactly. A lot of money.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		You know the administrators make a ton of money. Yet the kids still graduate and I'm
		able to read, write, or do basic math.
		So that's a problem and then I have, I have this idea.
		Alright, here we go, here we go.
		I've been spending a lot of time on the streets and I came up with this idea called Survivor to Investor.
		I've actually proposed this to Doron Smith at the White House and other people.
		And Survivor to Investor is basically talking about, all right, you know, you're from Chicago.
		You've got the corner boys and then you got the shooters.
		Two totally different people, right?
		The corner boys are usually corner boys because that's how they got to make money.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, so what's a corner boy?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the corner boy is the kid standing on the corner selling drugs.
		He's not, you know, shooting up.
		He's not the gangbanger that people like to talk about.
		You know, he's literally maybe selling marijuana on the corner.
		And he's got five siblings at home and mom hasn't been home in a week, but somebody's got to feed these kids.
		Those are the corner boys, right?
		It happens all the time.
		We've got squeegee kids.
		I don't know if you have squeegee kids.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, those are... Chicago also has the fundraising for jerseys, which they're not really doing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you guys have that in Baltimore where they they'll go around and say like, hey, I'm fundraising for school uniforms.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they're really just selling candy.
unidentified		Right.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		They got the candy.
unidentified		Yeah.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		And I'm like so bad for them.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because they're I kind of don't feel bad because these are entrepreneurial kids.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They went out.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		No.
		No.
		I do.
		But I just feel bad that this is their their situation.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I do.
		I feel bad.
		OK.
		So Survivor to Investor.
		So basically we always talk about amnesty for illegal immigrants.
		Right.
		Hear me out here.
		It is a little edgy.
		I talk to a lot of corner boys, or those that are a little bit above the corner boys, but again, they're not the ones with the violent criminal activity.
		They're not, you know, the ones with the background in history.
		I talked to this guy, his name is Ro, and he goes, Kim, I would love to get involved in real estate.
		And I was like, well, considering there's 17,000 vacant row homes in your neighborhood, that's an awesome idea.
		So we go to his car and he like pops open the trunk.
		It's got a bunch of cash.
		And I'm like, oh, boy.
unidentified		Yeah.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		First, you know, I didn't see this.
		Second, I'm like, why don't you don't have a bank account?
		Like what's going on?
		He goes, no, I can't put this in the bank.
		You know, I don't trust anybody.
		So I just ride around with it.
		So I'm looking in the trunk and I'm like, dude, you, you have enough to buy probably a whole block here.
unidentified		Wow.
unidentified		Right?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Because a lot of these row homes, they've been vacant so long, they're maybe what, $3,000?
		Right?
		To buy.
		So I'm like, all right, now what?
		Now what?
		I'm thinking, I'm thinking.
		I was like, all right, what if for 365 days, we had amnesty for the corner boy?
		What if for a year, We didn't ask him where the money came from.
		We allowed them to invest in the property, put those homes in a program that put people on a pathway to home ownership.
		What if they turned those stash houses, where they're stashing the money, and they invested those same dollars into that home?
		And we only did it for 365 days, because at some point we want them off the streets, right?
		Or else they'll just keep flipping it.
		And so I say, what if we provide amnesty for the corner boy?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is a really interesting idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I do think there's a potential shortfall in what if, what if they say they're a corner boy just selling pot or something?
unidentified		Right.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		And this is, and so this is different, right?
		So then, and this is why I bring Jaron in, who's like a great policy advisor and he would help me write it up.
		And he said, I think there's a way to work it.
		I think there's a way to work it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because you might have someone who's actually doing something else.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yes, absolutely.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I actually, I tweeted something out saying, do you think Trump should pardon all non-violent marijuana offenders at the federal level and then, you know, do an executive order essentially legalizing marijuana?
		It wouldn't literally, it would just like, you know, he could instruct the feds to ignore it or something.
		Right.
		And almost everybody said yes, but Some people may have taken a plea deal so their charges got reduced.
		They may have been a violent offender.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But it's similar in that regard because I'm straight up like, I think Trump should just take a big old stack of non-violent offenders for pot charges after they've reviewed so that these are not, you know, like people who pled down from violent offenders and just start rubber stamping pardons.
		Just like... Yeah.
		Like, get these people out of prison for this non-violent, you know, stuff because they wanted to smoke a plant.
		We're already seeing this stuff recreationally, legally across the country.
		So it's similar in that regard.
		Yours is a little different, but just to kind of, you know, graduate from that point, how do you feel about the idea of pardoning non-violent drug offenders?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I'm for it.
		I'm for it.
		You know, I, this is what's so crazy about Baltimore and you know, you look at, you know, 1987, 1996 when my, my opponent was in office.
		This is when they were actually criminalizing those that were addicted to crack.
		Right?
		Drug addiction to me is you know it's a disease you know it's when you talk to people and this is what's so interesting and I found out learning you know through my nonprofit when I talked to the women that were incarcerated I would say 95% of those women were incarcerated because they were dealing with some guy that what they were helping you know commit a crime.
		It's usually not the woman at all, you know.
		She had low self-esteem, didn't understand her self-worth, didn't know that she should have been a confident woman and not in that relationship, you know.
		And that all stems back from the childhood.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's a cultural thing.
unidentified		Yeah.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		And so, you know, what we're doing is we're throwing this blanket constantly over everyone.
		And we really got to like, you know, roll our sleeves up and figure out these situations because everybody's experience is different.
		You know, when people tell me, oh, cops are racist and da da da, they might have had an experience with racist cops.
		I can't take that away from them.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		You know, but that's what we have to understand about each other.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		And like you said, I think young people do.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I think young people do.
		Um, and you know, but I don't think we can wait until it's just young people, you know, as, as the, the generation on top here.
		I think, you know, we have to get everybody on board and understanding.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Do you have any foreign policy thoughts?
		This is usually a tough one for a lot of people because I think it is important.
		A lot of people are focused on our own communities.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it's one of the reasons I take foreign policies so seriously.
		You know, when I hear about what's going on in Flint and then hear about the amount of money we've spent overseas, most people can't tell you what we've done with it.
		Right?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I don't mean to put you on the spot, but I'm curious just your thoughts in general.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If you have something specific or just, you know, general thoughts.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Well, I support Trump not supporting war.
		You know, as we say, it's usually the civilians that get hurt the most.
		Yep.
		You know, I guess I say, you know, think about if it was you living in this country, your family living in this country, right?
		And here you got bombs coming down on you.
		Because of some war, because something that might have happened over here.
		You know what I mean?
		These kids don't understand any of that stuff and I don't expect them to.
		You know, I read a little bit about, I guess it was Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz talking about, you know, not supporting any Lebanese government that was dealing with Hezbollah.
		You know, there's certain actions I think we can take without hurting civilians or hurting anyone, you know?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Definitely.
		Notably, in regards to what you said about the kids not understanding the bombs coming down, the CIA has referred to this as blowback.
		We take issue with a certain faction or whatever, we send drones, kids get hurt, they grow up and become enemies of the United States.
		And then we end up with, you know, a lot of the problems we see, particularly in Europe, was these foreign wars, the destabilization resulted in
		refugees, and then you get a European refugee crisis.
		It's substantially more complicated than that.
		The simplest way I can put it as to why I wish more people were in like...
		Actually, let me stop there and say this.
		Donald Trump bringing our troops back?
		Negotiating these peace deals?
		Why don't I see every progressives out there cheering for Trump right now?
		Because they hate him so much.
		And unfortunately, I think it's because they believe a lot of this fake news.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Trump's got his problems.
		I was reading something.
		It was really funny.
		They said Trump is like the epitome of character defect of a president.
		But if he's doing the things that are right, that are going to end these wars, bring about peace, then we have to recognize even if you don't like Trump and you think he might be bad for the U.S., you can objectively state the peace agreements in the Middle East that he's accomplished are going to be good for everybody.
		So can't you accept that?
		And I look at it like, okay, even if you think Trump is like a really bad president, you got to admit these peace deals are good and getting our troops out of these other places is a good thing for the rest of the planet.
		I think it's good for us and, you know, across the board.
		But it's too impossible for a lot of these people to accept Trump is doing something good.
		So he does it, he gets nominated for a peace prize, they say, and the No, it's sad.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		And this is basically what we're talking about is common sense and logic.
		But we seem to lost a little bit of that.
		And of course, with the fake news aspect, you know, if you if you were sitting around listening to fake news all day, you know, you might believe it, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You'll believe it.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I know it sounds sad, but the media has a lot to play in this.
		They're responsible for a lot.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Trump's running against the media.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Joe Biden's in the basement.
		When Joe Biden can't finish a sentence, I understand why the media does this, right?
		Joe Biden will say something that's nonsensical, and you can kind of give him the benefit of the doubt on what he's trying to say, but when the media writes it up, they cut out the ums and ahs and gaffs and string the sentence together perfectly.
		So if you're just reading the quote Joe Biden says, it's about time we bring our factories back and build back better, and you're like, I get that.
		When you listen to him, It's, yo, we gotta bring back the, you know, the factory.
		And you're like, but the media will write it out perfectly.
		Whenever I see these stories, I get mad.
		I'm like, dude, he said, you know, um, come on, like three times in that sentence.
		You can't just cut that out and call it a quote.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, cause you're paraphrasing.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But it's the media that's crafting the narrative.
		And so it's Trump versus the media.
		And this election is, it's a referendum on Trump.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		It is.
		It is.
		And, you know, even though I'm nowhere near, you know, what Trump is, but as far as my race and the local race and what I dealt with with the special election, you know, my opponent was not actually endorsed by the Baltimore Suns, the local newspaper.
		They endorsed Congressman Cummings' widow.
		Maya Cummings, yeah, during the primary.
		Unfortunately, you know, she didn't win, but while she was running, and they endorsed her, they talked about my opponent's sketchy past, right?
		But then, you know, she didn't win, he became the nominee, and then I'm the nominee, and they're like, Kim Klacik is no good for District 7.
		We nominate, you know, Kweisi and Fume.
		I literally go back And yeah, then they say, you know, we have heard rumors of his sketchy past.
		I go back, take the article that they wrote during the special primary.
unidentified		I'm like, dude, the rumor came from you.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Like, this isn't like I heard a rumor, like you wrote it.
		So was it not true when you wrote it before?
		Or is it just not true now because I'm the Republican nominee?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what I love?
		I love the cycle where there will be like a news report and Trump will see it and then he'll be like rambling and he'll mention it and then the media will immediately flip the narrative like, that's not true!
		So hydroxychloroquine is a really great example.
		It was TechCrunch and several other outlets that wrote a study conducted by a French doctor shows that hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, and Z-Pak is potentially good for COVID patients.
		And so Trump's doing his speech and he goes, I heard this thing, you hear this about the hydroxychloroquine, it sounds fantastic.
		Then all of a sudden the media rushes out full speed, it's bad, don't do it.
		But he literally just read it on some website.
		It's, it's, it's, it's, the media doesn't have a consistent narrative other than if Trump said it, it's wrong.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No matter what it is.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		And that's even what most Democrat candidates are running on today.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's so weak.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		It is, it is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So how about we take some questions and definitely try and put you on the spot as much as possible.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yes, of course.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So Vesidious wants to know your opinion on Section 230 reform.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ooh.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		So, I know Trump is for revoking.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think that's a bad idea.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I think it's a bad idea also.
		Now I do believe there should be some reform.
		Like I'm a conservative and I know there's sometimes I tweet things and you know I've got I don't know how many followers now but there shouldn't be like 16 likes on it.
		You know what I mean?
		Like and knowing that my followers are like you know people that really support what I say and usually you know my thought process.
		So I know all about the shadow banning and all that good stuff, but revoking it completely doesn't make any sense.
		But then this is one of those things where they just throw the blanket.
		It's like, come on guys, let's put some thought behind this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		230 is really complicated because I've had a ton of conversations with people.
		There's a lot of things to it that a lot of people don't understand.
		We often hear from conservatives, oh, but Twitter is a publisher now because they've done this thing.
		And essentially, if you get rid of 230, for those that aren't familiar, it would basically decimate conservative media.
		Because now Trump would try and tweet something, and then Twitter would say, please hold while we review this for publication.
		The internet couldn't function without it.
		But the problem is, what 230 does It allows these companies to curate in good faith.
		That's probably why you get shadowbanned.
		Because Twitter's like, well, you know, this one post is objectionable, so let's just, you know, slow that one down.
		But this thing from Antifa where they're calling for direct violence, well, that's totally fine.
		Yeah.
		So, you know, I think, to be completely fair, personally, I wouldn't expect you to come out with this huge list of, like, drawing up 230 and stuff, because it is complicated.
		It's rough.
		Even for me, and I know a lot about it.
		I think censorship is a serious issue, and that's going to impact you.
		And I'll say this, I said this a couple years ago, that Republican politicians are too stupid to solve this problem, and it's going to come back to haunt them.
		And Republican voters agree, for the most part.
		If the politicians don't protect their right to speak in some capacity, then you won't have it.
		So I don't mean that as a disrespect to you or anybody.
		I was trying to be, you know, kind of bombastic in that regard.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I mean, we, I mean, it's, it's obvious, you know, those on Capitol Hill don't seem to be really with the times, you know?
		We've seen a lot of those committee hearings when they were talking about social media and people were like, yeah, they're like, wait, what?
		They did it on, on the Twitter?
unidentified		You know, they're like, what did they do on the Facebook?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		And it's like, they have no idea what's going on.
		But this is another reason why we got to get some younger people out there.
		Really running for office because we got to be able to change for the times and this is on both sides of the aisle You know, you got Mitch McConnell against, you know, Chuck Schumer.
		You're like dude, both of you should have retired a long time ago.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Totally!
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Don't say oh Mitch is out.
		He's nursing his broken hip.
		Well, what does that do for, you know, those he's supposed to represent?
		You know what I mean?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did he really break his hip?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		He did.
unidentified		He did.
unidentified		Oh, wow.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he was out for about four weeks last year.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, wow.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		And I was sitting there thinking like, hey, I'm a Republican, but I even know this is not cool.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you what I care about.
		I want to see millennials running.
		It feels like too many people in our generation are looking at old people.
		So you've got Trump, who's 74.
		You've got Biden, who's 77.
		Bernie, what is he, 78.
		Then you've got Schumer, McConnell, Lindsey Graham.
		These are not young people.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		My opponent, 74.
unidentified		74?!
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Just throwing that out there.
unidentified		Wow.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		How old is Billy Prempy's opponent?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Isn't he like 82?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Was he 80 or something?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, 82 or something.
unidentified		Wow.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Insane!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Why?
		Young people, man, that's what, you know, there's two things.
		Here's my kind of mentality at this point.
		I think everything you've talked about in terms of policy, it's like keeping it simple and it sounds fantastic.
		You know what, man?
		I throw my hands up.
		I'm a liberal.
		That's why I'm like, we must regulate these companies.
		I've always been in favor of regulating massive multinational corporations that are stealing the commons.
		I meet a lot of conservatives and libertarians who are not because they're like, it's a private business.
		And I'm just like, well, whatever, man.
		But now you've got the mainstream liberal Democrats, you know, whatever, saying it's a private business.
		And I'm like, what?
		Where did you go?
		I don't even know what's going on anymore.
		But I'm at this point.
		I'm like, listen, man, the riots, the 80 years of Chicago's single party rule failures, California's single party rule failures, Baltimore.
		It's time for some change.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		It is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And look, you're much younger.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What are you, half the age of your opponent?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's get some people who are younger and eager and have ideas they want to implement and give it a shot.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I agree.
		I actually agree with nothing AOC says, but I respect her passion.
		I respect the way she runs her campaign.
		I respect her hard work and how she got to office with the grassroots efforts.
		I respect it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think you agree with her more than you realize.
		I think it's just how far into what, like, her ideas will you be willing to go.
		So if AOC says everyone should have affordable health care, I think everybody agrees with that.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Her idea is just now we'll make the government pay for it by taxing everybody.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Whereas, you know, typically, I guess, what is the Republican position right now on health care?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Do your own thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do your own thing.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		And I actually do agree with AOC on one thing.
		I'll take that back.
		She is for over-the-counter oral contraceptives.
		And I am actually for it as well.
		And a lot of Republicans love it.
		But for me, again, you know, in the black neighborhoods, there are a lot of young women that depend on Planned Parenthood to get their oral contraceptives.
		And so people are familiar.
		This is before conception.
		Because I have a lot of people writing fake news that this is like the Plan B pill.
unidentified		No.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		This is before conception.
		This is family planning.
		We have 35 countries around the world that already have it over the counter.
		11 of them do it very well.
		We have free clinics all over Baltimore where you can get your pelvic exams.
		We can make sure these women are good candidates.
		And I think that we should push for that.
		And I tell Republicans, if you're so for Defunding Planned Parenthood.
		If you take that birth control pill aspect out of it, they no longer have that data to show that they need all the federal funding.
		So there's more than one way to skin a cat.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's read some more of the questions.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Alrighty.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's see.
		Bry says, I think you should change all direct benefits, including housing subsidies and food stamps, to yearly cash payments and let the poor decide for themselves what to do with it.
		I kind of disagree with that.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I really disagree.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm more of the fence-sitter, but what are your thoughts on that?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Um, so I understand the thought process behind it.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Was it, was it Bri?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bri.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Bri.
		I understand the thought process behind it.
		Unfortunately, you have a situation like we could talk about right now, uh, food stamps, right?
		So you've got kids in a household, their mother gets food stamps, but the mother decides to take the food stamps, sell her, her card or snap card.
		And she buys Ugg boots and some clothes, right?
		I mean, you have these situations where if you're giving them the cash, even in this situation, a lot of times they won't actually go and get what they're supposed to be getting with it.
		And I know it sounds really bad and it sounds like a lot of government control, the way I'm putting it, and I probably shouldn't put it this way.
		But this is almost to make sure, in a way, that at least, you know, some kids are getting what they need.
		I mean, if you gave someone, what are they saying?
		Bryce saying, take the housing voucher and just make it cash?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like a yearly payment, so you can decide what you need.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		There could be lots of families living in shelters, and the parent could have, you know, a new pair of Jordans on.
		I mean, it's not a good idea.
		It's not a good idea, and maybe it's a cultural thing, and maybe we should pull back on it.
		And I am for less government.
		I am.
		But I just think right now to do that, You know what I think we're getting wrong?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It seems like you've got this traditional left versus right argument, Democrat-Republican, where Democrats are for social programs, Republicans aren't.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I know there's nuance, especially, but the way I view it is the problem with the Democrats' plan for social programs is they want to give people fish instead of teaching them how to fish.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Correct.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So if we had government programs to teach people how to fish, you're creating independence and self-sustaining lifestyles.
		Right.
		I'm not going to pretend I know how you implement that program because smarter people than me have tried and probably need to try a lot harder, but it seems like that's the direction we should go instead of giving cash to people or giving direct payments.
		You know what I mean?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		You know, just giving people things isn't helpful.
		It's not helpful.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's that meme where it's like a sign says, please don't feed the animals.
		They'll grow dependent and keep coming back for more.
		And people are like, this is a general principle.
		Like, we want to foster independence and sustainability among individuals so they can provide for their families.
		And I think one of the challenges is developing that mentality as well.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I know a lot of people I grew up around who don't understand the concept of being responsible.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So it's not just about government, it's about their jobs too.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like they don't fathom the ability to raise, like to make money on their own.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They think the only way to make money is to have a job.
		And I'm like, no, no, no, you can sell t-shirts.
		You can, these kids selling candy bars.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's why I'm like, I respect that.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They found a way.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're gonna sell candy bars and make some money.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely, absolutely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So we got some comments here.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Oh gosh, be nice.
unidentified		Oh yeah, oh no, they're a little angry.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bringer of D says, neither the Dems nor the Republicans give an F about America.
		That's why Dems ignore areas with few electoral votes.
		That's why Republicans ignore areas they see a little chance.
		They don't try because they don't care about you.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Oh man.
		So this was in my RNC speech.
		You know, I agree.
		Republicans don't try in many areas.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But do they care?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or do they... I'm not a fan of either party.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I can't say that they all care.
		Because if they did, they would have supported me when I went to run, right?
		I can't say that they all care.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Are you making them mad now saying this?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		I'm one of those people going, I'll just make you mad.
		I know it sounds awful, but I somewhat agree with this comment.
		And I'm not saying that everyone doesn't care.
		But what I will say is everybody needs to try a little harder.
		You know, you do.
		You do.
		Some people are making a ton of money and literally just sitting there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think they care.
		I think they're making a ton of money and just sitting there.
		I think the establishment, Republicans and Democrats for too long have been
		like, what do I got to say to get the keys to the castle and so I can sit around.
		But we've seen something really interesting happen.
		You've got people, many progressives that are running on the left and they're
		getting all this press for upsetting, you know, winning primaries.
		I think a lot of them really care.
		And we're seeing the same thing with people like you.
		I think it's very obvious you care, and so you're running in your district, and it's not just you, it's, we've got people in Florida, there's a lot of Republicans that are primaring these incumbents, a lot of Republicans are retiring because they were just the establishment do-nothings, and they're like, uh-oh, I actually gotta fight against a passionate young person who's trying to bring about change in their community.
		I'm out of here.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		That's too much work.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I think the internet has finally, our politics is finally catching up with, or the internet is finally hitting the political realm.
		Where now, I feel like, you know, you mentioned you weren't getting support from the GOP.
		Could you imagine if you were doing this run before social media?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		No.
		And I thought about that.
		We only released the ad on social media.
		That was not a commercial buy.
		It wasn't an ad buy.
		It was only on social media.
		And we put it on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook.
		That's it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so it's got way more than 12 million views.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's just on Twitter.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and then people were yelling at me saying, why isn't it on YouTube?
		I was like, dude, I forgot.
		So, you know, it didn't go on YouTube until a week later.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what I think it is?
		I think a lot of people saw that and they said, I know exactly what you're saying.
		It like resonated.
		When I watched it, I was like, yep.
		I grew up in an area where they made all these promises to us.
		Let me tell you a story.
		Let me tell you a story.
		We had a kid in my neighborhood.
		He went door to door.
		We wanted to build a skate park.
		Raised a bunch of money, going to the neighbors and saying, you know, we would always go to this park and we would skate around and we would damage, you know, skateboarding.
		You can rough up some of the planters that, you know, hold in the wood chips and stuff.
		And we would often get in trouble because the kids were all clustering around this playground.
		So one kid got the idea to go to Auditor Fundraising so we could build a skate park in the old, you know, rundown tennis court.
		He raised a bunch of money from the locals.
		I'm not going to make any accusations.
		All I'm going to tell you is what I was told by some of these people.
		Tens of thousands of dollars are raised.
		We end up getting the worst skate park imaginable.
		It's like, I have no idea who built any of this stuff.
		And then interestingly, around the same time, a bunch of new landscaping was done.
		And so, you know, one of the kids who was raising money was like, Hey, wait a minute.
		These ramps don't cost nearly as much as we raised.
		And what are all of those new plants, you know, around the building?
		And so, I don't know if it was actually like they siphoned away funds for their own personal endeavors for beautification projects or whatever, but I do know that we had this big event where, like, to christen the park, we had a contest and some politicians came out and made all these promises about, don't worry, we're going to invest in your community, smile for the camera, and we're like, yay!
		And that was it.
		We never saw them again.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so I just was like, they got their flowers, they gave us nothing, and then when I went one day to skate at the park, that my friends, you know, we all came together.
		I didn't do any fundraising, but you know, it was part of, it was a community effort, mostly done by this one kid.
		They called the cops on me and my brother.
		They were like, you're not allowed to be here.
		Get out of here.
		They were like only after certain hours and I'm like, what was the point of doing all this work to just be
		treated this way?
		So I just, it really disillusions you.
		That made me go from like a 14 year old skater kid to being like super anarchist, F the system,
		like angry, like how good.
		And then when I was like 18 I was like, I better chill.
		That's not really, you know, wait, let me just calm down.
		But speaking of that, we have another question.
		This is from the LaPardee says, hey Kim, what's your stance on police reform?
unidentified		Oh Oh, thank you, the party.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I think police reform is necessary.
		I mean, we can't ignore it, right?
		There isn't, obviously there aren't just a few bad apples.
		Do I have it high on my priority list?
		living in an area we have over 300 murders every year, over 700 shootings just last year,
		over 420 carjackings just last year.
		No, it's not high on my priority list because these aren't police involved
		carjacking shootings or murders.
		But, should there be some police reform?
		Absolutely.
		Again, this is like one of those situations where I can't tell somebody about their experience in life.
		You know, we gotta come together and talk about our experiences and figure out a solution.
		This is why everything, I think everyone's very important.
		This is why I do want younger people to run for office Because we got to come together and talk about it and figure out like this is like, you know a doctor not talking to a patient But then writing a prescription We can't do that.
		We can't do that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it's just, I think they've overhyped the problems.
		And it's crazy to me that you can mention all of those crimes, especially for the, you know, to beat a dead horse.
		I'm from Chicago!
		But to hear, we need police reform, I'm like, listen!
		I've dealt with bad cops.
		I've dealt with high crime.
		If I saw, you know, Donald Trump's tactical gear guys in the streets, I would not be like, oh no, my neighbor, what's happening?
		I'd be like, something must be going on, like something's being done about it.
		And a lot of it, it's really interesting, there's a pride issue I see with men on the left that like, if the police come up to somebody and say, we're detaining you, put your hands behind your back, they get angry.
		Yeah. No, no. How dare you can't do this to me. It's like they can. It's it's you're allowed to detain you. It's like
		try and be reasonable and choose your battles. So when I get stopped by the cops, I'm just like, am I being detained?
		If I am, then I am. And but a lot of people I think the left has said when people say things like if the police are
		arresting you or detaining you just comply.
		I'm like, yes.
		Because then you win the battle later.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But they say things like, why should I have to?
		They have no right, blah blah blah.
		So what do you do?
		You get into a fist fight with a cop?
		That's ridiculous.
		You can't do that.
		Anyway, the main point is...
		When I think about the amount of crime in my area versus the amount of problems with police, I'm like, one clearly outweighs the other.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We've got bad cops in Chicago.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a known problem.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But for the most part, you see a cop, you're not going to have a problem, then they're probably going to be dealing with some crime.
		So while I've personally, I've been messed with by cops.
		Like, I've had cop plant weed in my car.
		I got lucky, they found my dad's firefighter emblem and were just like, get out of here.
		Yeah, it's Chicago, man.
		And I've been given bad tickets.
		So I do think reform makes sense, but I'm also like, man, can we deal with the gun violence and the fighting and the killing and everything?
		You said it's not high on your priority list because you have all this crime already, and I feel the exact same way.
		I think it's a priority, and I'll have a conversation about it.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		XRunner55 says, I live in Baltimore and would vote for you in a second if they didn't gerrymander the gentrified areas out of your district.
unidentified		Thank you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I haven't talked about it, so you know.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's see what we got here.
unidentified		Thank you!
unidentified		Thank you!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ernstrom says, donate to Kim Klesek, not the RNC.
		The RNC handed John McCain and Mitt Romney to the voters.
		The RNC needs to get a clue.
		Vote Klesek 2020.
		There you go.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Awesome.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Keep preaching that, okay?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		People are being very nice.
		Here's one.
		Now there are just a bunch of people praising you, to be completely honest.
		This is Theo Frasta says, Kim is fantastic.
		She's very perceptive.
		I'm learning a lot from this interview.
		Cool.
		Someone said, good luck in Arizona.
		Are you going to Arizona?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Wait a minute.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I am going to Arizona for something.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How do they know that?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Top secret.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's from Kay Renee.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
		I've never even posted about that.
		Are you allowed to say what you're doing?
		No, well, because I'm waiting for the final confirmation, but there's something going on in Arizona where they're inviting some Republican candidates out there to talk.
		Oh wow.
unidentified		I was like, I saw that and I'm like, what are you doing in Arizona?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's cool.
		Hey, someone, uh, what is this?
		Someone says, uh, you can only like once.
		Awesome live guys.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yay.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I'm sitting here thinking you guys are about to shred me to pieces.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Everybody's very nice.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		All right.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And see, I'm actually trying to I'm looking out for anyone who's posting like comments that are silly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, they're all actually fairly normal.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, for sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There are a lot that are saying, like, keep up the good work, really appreciate the show.
		It's really great.
		Seth Missayan says, it's not enough to not be trash.
		You have to be anti-trash.
		Thank you for being anti-trash.
unidentified		Love what you do.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Jerry RN says, everyone drink each time Tim says, to be fair.
		You see, I've brought this up because there's, I go through periods where I will say like one thing a lot, whether it's, it's complicated or to be fair, or at the end of the day, I have, it just happens.
		Like once a month, I'll have a new catchphrase.
		Matthew Stockhausen says, my hometown of Merrimack, New Hampshire has been listed as the safest or one of the safest places in New Hampshire.
		Those were years where we had the highest police per capita in the state.
unidentified		That's interesting.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it's fair to say if you had like 500 cops on like one block, there'd be no crime on that block.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I just don't know if anybody wants to live that way.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like Chicago did that response to looting.
		They just apparently were like, cops everywhere!
		It solves the problem, but I mean, is that comfortable, people?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Well, and I have to say, too, you know, when you look at these areas, and we had problems in our police force in Baltimore City.
		We had the Gun Trace Task Force.
		I know you saw that.
		You know, there were four, I think, that got indicted for, you know, planting guns and drugs.
		Oh, wow.
		But you have to understand, these Corrupt police forces are corrupt and easily are that way because of the corruption within the entire city.
		You know, when you've got a corrupt city hall, yeah, you got a corrupt police force.
		It goes hand in hand.
		You know, we've got to get the corruption, we've got to root it all out in all areas.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's a job for Trump.
		I think the best way for dealing with a lot of these cities is federal investigations of corrupt government officials.
		It is really difficult, though.
		But I think about my perspective coming from Chicago.
		How do you deal with a mayor, a commissioner, and all these people who have no interest in helping the people?
		Allowing some of these, you know, corrupt activities to happen.
		And they say to themselves things like, well, it's bad, but at least it's better with me here.
		You know what I mean?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, well, the cops are corrupt, but could you imagine if I wasn't here?
		Man, the cops would be so much worse.
		It's like, they're still bad.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, and I don't, I don't, I don't mean that literally.
		I mean that figuratively.
		Like, I think Chicago police have, have a lot of problems, but I don't think they're, I think they're a little bit worse than a lot of other places, but they're not all bad.
unidentified		Yeah, for sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Thank you, PJ.
		That's right.
		You have to share it.
		I saw your ads on Facebook and donated to your campaign, conservative white guy from
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Ohio.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Thank you, PJ.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's see.
		Reshab Verma says, great discussion, guys.
		More leftists need to see this and walk away.
		Well then share it.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You have to share it.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		If you like the show.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		See ya.
		SFG Cisco says, I used to live near Baltimore and be there on Friday nights for nightlife.
		Once you left Fells Point and the Inner Harbor, it was all rundown, sketchy, and very rundown.
		2001 to 2002, worse now.
		Fix it.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Our Inner Harbor is actually in receivership right now, so that's that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What does that mean?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Well, so basically there's no stores left, no restaurants, and the city did nothing to replenish anything over there.
		It's just sitting.
		It's an eyesore now, but that used to be a gem, right?
		It was right by Camden Yards.
		You know, you had the Cheesecake Factory.
		You had all these people that would come there every weekend and hang out with their families, and now it's just nothing.
unidentified		Bricks.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's sad.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That was pretty.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was down there a while ago.
		Here we go from David Meyerson.
		He says, I'm a normal person lol.
		Kim is amazing and fighting for her community.
		What's not to love?
		I wish we had that North Carolina.
		Where do we donate?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's a pitch right to you to go, what do they donate?
unidentified		Yes.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		KimKForCongress.com is the website.
		I will say a little secret here.
		You could also send a check, if you'd like, to our PO Box 15361, Middle River, Maryland, 21220.
		And that actually goes completely to the campaign, right?
		I don't think people realize how much fees some of these websites take.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you use WinRed?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I have WinRed and Anadot, and we've made them rich, let me tell ya.
		Yeah and I'm not saying they're bad you know it's great but you know if you do you know go to the website kimkayforcongress.com you'll see right on the the bottom lower tier there you'll see our P.O.
		box number you know if you do want to write a check and send it to us and and please know we appreciate it I mean we're now we're able to buy you know ad space and billboards and send more mailers and I have you know very small staff we have a lot of volunteers because it's not really about you know paying people this is this is like I really feel like if we spend smart we can win this thing and that's why I've got people out there seven days a week and I know they're probably really mad at me but I'm like look guys we don't have that many days left I'm out here too we can do this we can do this and luckily we have a lot of passionate people that are like you know what I think we can
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think Billy said it well.
		If you win, you win.
		If you lose, you win.
		Because you're doing the work.
		And it might be a tough battle, but the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single footstep.
		That's the goal.
		What's your social media for people if they want to follow you?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yes, so on Twitter, it's Kim K Baltimore.
		Facebook, Instagram, it's Kimberly Klasik.
		K-L-A-C-I-K.
		Yes, and I would say LinkedIn.
		Meanwhile, LinkedIn is poppin' these days.
		Has anybody noticed that yet?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I haven't noticed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm hearing people talk about it.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I am getting yelled at sometimes, because they're like, you didn't see my message on LinkedIn.
		I'm like, what?
		Who checks LinkedIn messages?
unidentified		It's kind of funny.
unidentified		Don't rag on LinkedIn.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't use it.
		But yeah, I've been getting emails about it.
		I guess people are using it now.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's a ton of people on LinkedIn.
unidentified		Wow.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I should look at it.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		It's like, yeah, getting really hip these days.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what it is?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's that we're all kind of getting older and realizing professional is more important than yelling at each other on Twitter.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		You just cracked the case.
unidentified		Yeah.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I think we crashed your website.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why did it not work?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's not working for me.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		So we'll give it some time.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Wait, KimK4Congress.com?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		It just loaded and loaded.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		F-O-R?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Too many people tried to go there at once.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I hope this is the case.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		So at the RNC convention speech, it crashed for two hours.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh, come on.
		All right.
		Well, they'll just have to follow you on Twitter.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Too many people.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Are you serious?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I'm about to cry.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Don't cry.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm also about to text my manager.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a good problem to have.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I wish you could handle it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You've got so many people trying to hook you up.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's awesome.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		You tell them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But you might lose a lot of money, you know?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		They should follow you on Twitter, for sure.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yes!
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Oh my gosh.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Daniel Hach says, Kim, go on HOTEP's Been Told Ya, get the message out.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Would that be fun?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you follow the HOTEP crew?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		HOTEP Jesus and those guys?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we got in a little fight.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Well, okay, this is another thing.
		I know I should Be nicer.
		So this is before I started running for office.
		And they kept telling me like, if you run for office, you need a black agenda.
		And I was like, here's an idea.
		You run for office on a black agenda.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh, snap.
unidentified		And he goes, Well, I've been thinking about it.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		And then he says nothing.
		It's like crickets.
		And I'm like, how are you going to tell me what to run on?
		You know, it's like, I guess with the ADOS and everything.
		And I understand.
		This is why I say everybody has their own experience in life.
		Everybody's voice should be heard.
		That's just not what I'm running on.
		But you feel free.
		This is a free country.
		Feel free to run on it if you like.
		And they just did not like that I said that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So here's a question from Garrett Ford.
		Kim, what do you think Republicans can do to reach out and attract black youth?
		Also, what after-school programs would help young underprivileged kids succeed in adult life?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Your website is working, just so you know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		We finally got it to go through.
unidentified		So I just cursed at my manager for not listening.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I've done great things.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so first and foremost, the Republican Party This is what's so crazy about it.
		Okay, so right now we've got 21 black Americans running for Congress right now, right?
		This is the most in history.
		In Baltimore City we have four black Republican candidates running for city council.
		And if you talk to probably 90% of these candidates will say it's because I felt like I could because President Trump Wow.
		Was in office and was literally like, what do you have to lose?
		He seems to embrace, you know, black Americans.
		That is, that was Trump that extended that olive branch.
		And that's what I was trying to say, I guess, in my RNC convention speech.
		It wasn't the RNC that extended this olive branch.
		It was Trump.
		And so when we hear people talk about how racist Trump is, I'm like, if Trump wasn't there, I wouldn't be running for office.
		I will be very honest with you.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		You know, and so it's interesting to me.
		And I think if the RNC just would take a page out of Trump's book and just said, you know what?
		Anyone that wants to be a Republican, anyone that wants to run, you know, you don't have to wait your turn in line, you know, just, you know, embrace people.
		Embrace them, you know?
		When I was running, at this time I'd already been going on Fox News, One American News, right?
		I already had press and media contacts.
		So I was like, I know I can raise a little bit of money because I can go, you know, on some of these networks.
		They were actually supporting my opponent who had no media contacts.
		You know, she raised almost no money at all.
		It was just her turn in line because she's been with the Maryland GOP for so many years.
		So, you know, they got to get out of this, you know, the good old boys club and really step into 2020 is what it comes down to because I will give the DNC credit.
		They do welcome New faces and new people.
		They do.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		They see it as a benefit and I think the GOP would benefit from that.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yes, we've got to do that.
		We've got to do that.
		As far as young people doing, you know, what they can do to help them on that track to success.
		Is that what that person asked?
		I'm sorry.
		Yeah, I was going off on another.
		Yeah, so I think, and this is what I loved about when I used to volunteer on Capitol Hill.
		I used to volunteer and help out with those that were giving the tours, like the school kids.
		So many kids that like came down to the Capitol to see everything was like, wow, and this is amazing.
		And they got involved in politics.
		But there weren't many black kids that were coming down, not many black schools that were taking the trips down.
		I think exposure trips are vital, right?
		If you don't leave that neighborhood, if you don't make that track out, You're not going to ever be exposed to, you know, just some of these things.
		And that's when I really started getting involved in politics when I was volunteering and I got to sat in on the Benghazi committee hearings.
		You know, watching Congressman Trey Gowdy in person was like, Whoa, this dude is on fire.
unidentified		I gotta watch this whole thing.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		And that's how it all happened.
		Honestly, I went to, I had the volunteer badge, went to his office and asked for an interview.
		And they were like, who are you?
		And I'm like, Kim Klesick.
		You know, but it, you know, Trey Gowdy was such a cool guy.
		He let me interview him.
		And that was the night before he interviewed Secretary of State Hillary Clinton asking where the emails were.
		Wow.
unidentified		Cool.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		And I always go back to it because people are like, what was wrong with you?
		Remember when that day Trey Gowdy was like sweating?
		And look, he was so sick.
unidentified		Oh.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		He definitely, I mean, today it would be classified as the coronavirus, but he definitely had, like, the flu.
		And he was so sick.
		And everybody talked about how he looked, you know, sitting up there.
		But I was like, I saw him.
		He was sick and, you know, sleeping in his office, basically, you know, trying to put the work in.
		It was.
		But that is when it really took me to another level as far as politics.
		And that is when I was exposed to that Benghazi committee hearing.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		To the flu from Trey Gowdy.
unidentified		That's awesome.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So there are a lot of people mentioning they donated to your campaign.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Thank you.
		Thank you so much.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And this one person, Lass Bauer, is saying that after you've made sense of Baltimore, he wants you to go and replace the Danish prime minister.
unidentified		Wow.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		You got this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And David Meyerson says, where's your campaign song?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		My campaign song?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I guess.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Does Trump have one?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, is that a thing you're supposed to have?
unidentified		They asked, I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's see.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I'll send you one if I come up with one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then we have a lot of people saying, keep up the good work.
		Andre Baxter, thanks for the super chat.
		And T Cliff saying, just sent $50 to your campaign.
		Kim, you are so inspirational and I really admire your servant leadership.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So if you would like to donate, once again, you can shout out, you want to shout out your website real quick?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		KimK4Congress.com.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And your social medias?
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Kim K Baltimore on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook, Kimberly Klesik.
		I really do appreciate this opportunity.
		You have no idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Coming on here?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was like, man, if it was so cool if Kim would come on my show.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		That's what's so crazy about this.
		You have no idea how long I've been like, oh, he's so cool.
		He's getting his own story.
		So I love when people create news.
		You know, and not just going with the current events.
		And you've had times where you created news.
unidentified		Did I?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I think I used to do a lot more of that.
		I would go when I used to do more on the ground stuff.
		It started getting dangerous, though.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I know, but just the simple fact that you did it.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		I mean, when I took those videos of the trash, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		That was me being like a little Tim, like, oh, yeah.
		And I wish more people would do that though because now we have the time of social media.
		Your phone camera could catapult you and your career or just save lives or improve the quality of life for others.
		Instead of always just filming a fight at school, what if you filmed something really positive that could make a positive change in someone's life?
		That should go viral on Worldstar.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Cool.
unidentified		For sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Kim, thank you so much for hanging out with us.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for having me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And say your website one more time.
kim klacik ▲ ● ▼		KimK4Congress.com Right on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so we're about to ready to wrap up.
		Thanks for hanging out.
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		We do the show Monday through Friday live at 8 p.m.
		We got a bunch more guests coming up all throughout next week and more conversations.
		And you can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, and Parler at TimCast.
		And of course, Lydia, who is at Sour Patch Lids.
		Sour Patch L-Y-D-S on Twitter and Parler.
		But again, Kim, thank you so much for hanging out, and now we're gonna sign off, so we'll see you guys Monday at 8pm live.
		Again, thank you so much.

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