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how's it going everybody Welcome to the TimCast IRL Podcast. | ||
We got some crazy news right now. | ||
I feel like we have a confirmation on this story. | ||
A Black Lives Matter leftist arrested for starting a fire. | ||
I don't believe it's arson. | ||
It may actually be, but we've got these wildfires sweeping across the West Coast. | ||
And this story is crazy, but I've pieced a bunch of things together. | ||
There's other people who have already worked on this story. | ||
For some reason local outlets aren't giving out the guy's name, but you put two and two together like a, you know, like a Sudoku puzzle. | ||
You can put the numbers up. | ||
We see this guy is actually a Black Lives Matter. | ||
He had been arrested previously at a protest years ago. | ||
There's videos of him at various protests. | ||
I don't know, I don't think it means he's like a dedicated hardcore kind of like Black Lives Matter person, and we don't know if it's arson, But because this is kind of, like, going crazy, and now there's apparently, like, armed dudes coming out and guarding these dry areas, we definitely gotta talk about this. | ||
So today, I'm hanging out with my friends. | ||
We got, uh, my buddy Ian. | ||
Well, hello, everyone. | ||
That's, uh, that's Ian. | ||
And then, of course, that's our petulance hanging out. | ||
Yes, hello, how's it going? | ||
And we're gonna talk about this, because if you Google search the wildfires, what are they saying? | ||
Climate change. | ||
Hmm. | ||
Yeah. | ||
And I'm sure some of it is related. | ||
You know, I personally believe we've got issues with, you know, just... I think climate change is a serious issue. | ||
However, you cannot ignore the fact that we have a lot... I pulled up a lot of stories, man. | ||
Nice. | ||
A lot of arson. | ||
No joke. | ||
Awesome, I guess. | ||
Not fun, but it's... So this story about the Antifa guy... | ||
Might not be arson, but there's many many other stories that are and they and they bring it up | ||
So I'm telling you man. There are people literally out there right now | ||
Starting fires. I don't think they're all intentional. It's probably people flicking cigarettes | ||
There's literally stories of like people spraying accelerant and oh my gosh lighting things up man. Yeah, dude | ||
So we got some other news, too. | ||
Considering the kind of, I don't know, man, this story's, it's kind of crazy, right? | ||
People getting riled up about this. | ||
We're also hearing now the Oath Keepers have been suspended from Twitter. | ||
That is correct, yeah. | ||
Yeah, for violating their rules on extremism and stuff like that. | ||
And then we got some other stories to some, well, they banned tear gas in Portland. | ||
Yes. | ||
Again. | ||
Ted Wheeler. | ||
Again, I guess. | ||
And then some kid, I guess he accidentally went to school. | ||
Was it an accident? | ||
No, he was being defiant. | ||
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A kid was protesting by going to school. | |
Good for him. | ||
He got arrested. | ||
He got arrested for showing up to class. | ||
Yeah, dude. | ||
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Let's just, uh, let's hop into this first story. | ||
We got a lot to talk about. | ||
Check this out. | ||
First, from Kero7. | ||
Live, local, in-depth. | ||
They say, So, there's a lot we gotta break down. | ||
First, they don't say who the person is, and they don't say it was intentionally lit, alright? | ||
And of the same age! | ||
Pulley up police and state troopers arrested a 36 year old pulley up man Wednesday for allegedly starting a large | ||
brush fire which temporarily shut down state route 167 and | ||
several ramps near Meridian Avenue. | ||
A man with the exact same name as the one police arrested recorded a Facebook live of that fire saying he reported it | ||
to first responders and of the same age. | ||
So I wonder if it's the same person. | ||
Pulley up police told Cairo 7 that they were made aware of the | ||
Facebook Live which showed his interaction with officers after the arrest. | ||
After the arrest? | ||
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Whoa! | |
He says, I'm out here on 167 right now, the man said in the stream. | ||
Looks like a fire literally just started and I just rolled up on it and it looks like it's going crazy. | ||
I'm here with the police and they're talking to me about it because I just called it in. | ||
Now that's the gist of that story, alright? | ||
We gotta read more because they mentioned there was a person was seen intentionally lighting a fire somewhere else. | ||
So first of all, a lot of people are saying it's intentional. | ||
We don't know that, but we do have this- I think we do have the tweet here. | ||
Check this out. | ||
Trooper Ryan Burke tweeted, Okay, hold on. | ||
People are correcting us here. | ||
PD and Pully Up PD just arrested a 36 year old Pully Up resident. I think I | ||
hope okay. Okay, hold on. People are correcting us here. It's Poo-Yul-Up. | ||
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Poo-Yul-Up. I was saying Pully Up. There's not even an L in there. Yeah, there's the L comes later. | |
Um, um, I just should read these words. Yeah, it's a crazy, it's a crazy name. Poo-Yul-Up resident. | ||
He was caught in the median setting a fire. | ||
He is currently on his way to jail. | ||
Great job, everybody. | ||
Play stupid games. | ||
Alright, now hold on. | ||
They said he was setting a fire. | ||
That sounds like Arsene. | ||
Yeah, it sure does. | ||
Is that not the definition of arson? | ||
I guess. | ||
Am I crazy? | ||
Well, the definition is the criminal act of deliberately setting fire to property. | ||
Oh, there you go. | ||
It's not property because... It's literally property. | ||
I'm kidding, I'm kidding. | ||
You can't, like, own property, man. | ||
You know, we abolish property, therefore you can't have arson. | ||
Dude, fire is, like, mass destruction. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Like, this is, if someone set off a nuclear bomb, they'd go to jail for, like, Much worse. | ||
These wildfires, like, yeah dude, this guy was like... | ||
That... | ||
They're lucky it didn't spread. | ||
Cause you look at this photo and that was a huge, that's a big fire. | ||
It's not the biggest, but it was a large fire. | ||
And I gotta say right now, look, they're saying... | ||
He was setting a fire. | ||
Now that's, they gotta be very careful about what they say. | ||
So all we know right now, officially confirmed, some people are saying... | ||
They're posting some photos of what appears to be... | ||
Like court, or like police records. | ||
I could not verify them. | ||
In these records it says something like reckless second degree fire or something. | ||
Which may have been, what's reckless? | ||
Flicking a cigarette? | ||
Right, something like that. | ||
I can't confirm that's real though. | ||
So all we have right now is this cop saying that he was setting a fire. | ||
So let's talk about who this guy is first. | ||
We have this tweet from Katie Davis Court. | ||
She says, Puyallup arrested Jeffrey Accord in relation to the arson along 167 Highway. | ||
In 2014, during an anti-police protest, Accord was charged with possession of a concealed weapon without permit, carrying a knife, and illegal possession of fireworks. | ||
I wonder what the fireworks were for? | ||
Well, she posted this video. | ||
She says, earlier in the day, Jeffrey Accord called in his own arson, Puyallup PD. | ||
He even filmed himself at the fires on Facebook Live. | ||
After questioning him, the Puyallup Police Department arrested him on suspicion that he started the fires. | ||
So I actually, I went to his Facebook page, sure enough, there's the guy, and yes, I legit, like, we confirmed, he posted this. | ||
So, here's a story from the local news, Seattle Times. | ||
When you Google search this guy's name, this is what you get. | ||
They say Jeffrey Allen Accord, 31, was charged Wednesday in Seattle Municipal Court with possession of a concealed pistol without a permit, carrying a dangerous knife, and illegal possession of fireworks. | ||
They say that he was at Monday's Ferguson protest in Seattle, had a cachet of weapons, I guess it's a cash cachet? | ||
We were just talking about this. | ||
Yeah, a cachet. | ||
A cachet of weapons including a handgun, knife, shotgun, semi-automatic rifle, ammunition, and powerful fireworks. | ||
They go on to mention, A court of Covington was among five people arrested during the march and protest Monday in Seattle after a Missouri grand jury decided not to indict a police officer for fatally shooting an unarmed black man. | ||
Protesters marched from Westlake Park to Capitol Hill, and some later clashed with police and climbed onto Interstate 5, blocking traffic. | ||
During the violence, fireworks were fired into the sky, and police say they were pelted with rocks, bottles, and canned food. | ||
Seattle Police Chief Kathleen O'Toole said it's unclear why Accord had the weapons. | ||
I don't know what his plans were, but it's obviously of great concern that somebody would come to an event in Seattle with those weapons readily available. | ||
Okay, so let's go back to the official confirmed source from Kero7, and they say, the guy said, I'm out here on 167 now. | ||
I'm here with the police. | ||
That's a quote. | ||
They also say a man with the exact same name was arrested. | ||
I can't imagine that someone of the exact same name was wandering around. | ||
Very unlikely. | ||
Yeah, just like two guys, same age, same name, like, wow. | ||
That'd be some multiple dimension stuff. | ||
So, I think for legal reasons they're saying it that way, but when you watch the actual stream he put out, that's a quote. | ||
Like, they've quoted what he said. | ||
This is the guy. | ||
I think it is fair to say, beyond a reasonable doubt, this is the guy. | ||
Now, whether or not he's guilty of intentionally setting fires, it isn't until proven guilty. | ||
So, is this the same guy that at the end of that article they said another guy was standing on the side of the road lighting a fire? | ||
Somewhere else. | ||
Oh, it's a different guy. | ||
We got a bunch of stories, man. | ||
Dude. | ||
Yeah, this is crazy. | ||
This is crazy. | ||
I think that's what we have in terms of just like confirming this. | ||
So I want to make sure there's a few things that are very very very clear before we start getting into the next bit because there's more, dude. | ||
The important thing to talk about is First of all, it sounds like arson. | ||
From the police. | ||
I'm gonna put these important disclaimers out. | ||
We don't know for sure. | ||
They did not literally confirm the guy's name. | ||
And it may not be that this guy is a dedicated Antifa dude. | ||
Another important factor is, just because he got arrested in 2014, doesn't mean he's going out to all these protests. | ||
We don't know, maybe he was. | ||
Could just be a reckless guy. | ||
Right, he could be just a firebug. | ||
He's a dude who likes to cause trouble, so he brought fireworks and guns to a protest for fun. | ||
I looked at this guy's information. I did not see anything that would suggest he's a dedicated diehard leftist or | ||
anything like that. | ||
However, I have to err on the side of he's been to these protests, he's brought weapons to these protests. | ||
There's other videos. | ||
There's more videos that people have pulled from his Facebook where he's at protests and he's yelling. | ||
Recently, actually. | ||
He's at the George Floyd protest and he's yelling about, you know, six feet apart and he's laughing about it. | ||
Oh, right. | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
That was very strange. | ||
Well, actually, I got to stop there. | ||
They're alleging that's the case. | ||
I want to be very careful with here. | ||
They don't know it's him. | ||
So some people have posted videos saying, here he is, we pulled this from his Facebook. | ||
And it's him laughing and filming himself. | ||
It looks like him, but I want to be very careful. | ||
Because I think, you know, this is already making the rounds, this story. | ||
And people are saying, it's legit, it's confirmed. | ||
It's not, it's not, it's not. | ||
So, it seems like this guy does support Black Lives Matter, he's protested with them before, and I have to assume he's probably done it more than once because we've seen, you know, potential evidence as more than one. | ||
So, there you go, there you go, alright? | ||
This is what I want to make sure is clear. | ||
The bigger issue at play, I believe, is that if you do a Google search, of wildfire and climate change. | ||
You'll see all of these stories where they say, New York Times, the straightforward link between climate change and California's fires. | ||
Yeah, perhaps. | ||
I'm not discrediting that. | ||
I'm just saying that there's a big narrative that everything we're seeing is, you know, wildfires and weather extremes. | ||
It's not coincidence. | ||
It's climate change. | ||
Wildfires are worsening. | ||
The way we manage them isn't keeping pace. | ||
California governor on wildfires. | ||
No patience for climate change deniers. | ||
Well, I certainly think that's an issue. | ||
If they don't address the arsonists, then I think you're going to get a group of people who say it's not climate change, it's arson. | ||
And then you're going to get a group of people who don't even know the arson is happening. | ||
It's both, right? | ||
It's totally possible, yeah. | ||
I think it's fair to say there's a happy medium. | ||
Well, I shouldn't say it's a horrifying medium. | ||
It's terrible. | ||
Not a happy medium. | ||
You've got people who want to start fires, and there's conditions being met because of climate change that make the fire substantially worse. | ||
But you've got to address the arsonists. | ||
Check this out. | ||
They also go on to say, after this, In Graham, a person was seen intentionally setting a fire to a field in front of a business in the 10-400 block of 229 SE early Wednesday morning. | ||
This was 100% intentional. | ||
There is zero doubt, said Jonas Petit, the owner of VacTech Septic and Water. | ||
Surveillance shows the suspect drive up, dumping gasoline and a match, setting fire to dry grass next to the business. | ||
Pierce County detectives have the video which doesn't show the suspect or the vehicle, but Petit says it does show a random act of potential devastation. | ||
You watch the flame, and then where he flips it, and it just goes boom, big ball of flame, he said. | ||
Firefighters and a lack of wind kept the flames from destroying their business only a few yards beyond the burn. | ||
If the wind would have been blowing like it was the other night, you wouldn't have stopped this. | ||
It would have added up onto the other fire in Graham, Petit said. | ||
The area is only a couple miles from the Graham fire which destroyed eight homes. | ||
And they go on to show the trooper, of course. | ||
So there's more, man. | ||
We got another one. | ||
Give it to me. | ||
We got another one from Kiro7 News. | ||
Seriously? | ||
Look at this. | ||
This is from today. | ||
Second man arrested for intentionally starting brush fire in Pierce County. | ||
This is Parkland, Washington. | ||
Troopers at the Washington State Patrol on Thursday said they have arrested a second person for intentionally starting a brush fire in Pierce County. | ||
Troopers said someone saw a man setting fire to grass with a match near State Route 512 and State Route 7 and called police. | ||
Troopers arrived at the scene, chased the man, and took him into custody. | ||
Wow. | ||
Thursday's arrest comes one day after a 36-year-old Puyallup man was arrested for allegedly starting a large brush fire, which temporarily shut down 167. | ||
That's the story we were just talking about. | ||
Fire danger remains very high across Washington. | ||
Due to low humidity and high temperatures, more than 480,000 acres in Washington have burned since Monday. | ||
So, here's another tweet from Trooper Ryan Burke. | ||
We got another one. | ||
Great job, Trooper Morfield. | ||
A pedestrian decided to match light the grass at SR-512 and SR-7. | ||
Citizen observed at an alerted 911 after a short foot chase. | ||
One is in custody and on the way to jail. | ||
What if I told you we had more? | ||
But wait, there's more! | ||
Arsonists, for some reason, are trying to just destroy everything, man. | ||
It's copycat criminality. | ||
No, I don't know, man. | ||
It's like the Joker. | ||
Or it's the collective consciousness is sparking, you know, bad analogy. | ||
I don't know, man. | ||
I think it's, you take a large population of people, and there's a standard deviation, you know, of people who happen to be arsonists. | ||
So, like, for every thousand people, you have one arsonist? | ||
What happens when you have a million people? | ||
You have a thousand arsonists? | ||
And then they're all going around? | ||
Yeah, I mean, that's the assumption. | ||
Scaling up. | ||
Right. | ||
So maybe it's like every one in ten thousand? | ||
Even if it's one in a million. | ||
In these areas, you'll have four or five. | ||
And when they see stories online about it, then they're like, oh, I could go do that? | ||
I mean, that's a crazy... | ||
If you read an article, how easy it is to go out there and destroy property. | ||
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You see how dry it is. | |
You don't even have to stick around, you know. | ||
Look at this. | ||
This is terrorism to me, and I don't like to use that word a lot. | ||
I don't know. | ||
I don't know. | ||
Terrorism is like, there's a goal, a political goal. | ||
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It has to be politically motivated. | |
This is terrifying, though. | ||
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This could destroy thousands of people. | |
It has, yeah. | ||
Their homes, their lives, their animals. | ||
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Yeah, the roads, the everything, the whole forest, the ecosystem. | |
Yeah. | ||
So I don't know if it's terrorism, but I just got another story, man. | ||
Go for it. | ||
What is this? | ||
Look at this. | ||
So we have two different locations in Oregon and Seattle. | ||
Now we have Eugene. | ||
Yeah. | ||
So, no, those two were in Washington, weren't they? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Now we have one in Eugene. | ||
A man arrested on arson allegation in wildfire west of Eugene, deputies say. | ||
Look at this photo, man. | ||
The Sweet Creek Milepost 2 fire seen in an undated photo. | ||
So is this... No, that's not it. | ||
That's not it? | ||
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Uh-oh. | |
Why not? | ||
Because that's an undated photo. | ||
They're talking about maybe a large fire in the area. | ||
Undated photo just means they don't know when it was taken. | ||
So it could be the fire. | ||
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Maybe. | |
You'd think that would be dated though. | ||
Sorry, I'll let you read. | ||
A 44-year-old man was arrested Tuesday on suspicion of arson in a wildfire that has burned nearly 400 acres and prompted evacuations west of Eugene. | ||
Elias Newton Pendlegrass is accused of first-degree arson in the Sweet Creek Milepost 2 fire, which covers 382 acres near the community of Mapleton. | ||
Pendlegrass, a Mapleton resident, is being held in the Lane County Jail. | ||
The county sheriff's office didn't provide details about the arson allegation in a news release Tuesday afternoon. | ||
Officials have previously said several fires started Sunday afternoon, and that they were managing the blazes as a single fire. | ||
Some area residents are still under evacuation, while others have been told to be ready or set to leave. | ||
The blaze is estimated to be 15% contained, fire officials said early Wednesday. | ||
So what do you think happens when these stories start, you know, flying off the shelves, the virality? | ||
People, I mean, we're in a hot political environment. | ||
It is, it's 2020, the election is less than, you know, two months away. | ||
And everybody is pointing the fingers, which is why we end up with a headline like, you know, BLM leftists arrested for starting a fire. | ||
For one, to what degree are they an active, you know, they are, they've supported and protested for them, so I think that's fair. | ||
But, uh, they're not necessarily an organizer. | ||
Was it actually arson? | ||
I don't know. | ||
I don't know. | ||
But we're already seeing the ramifications of this. | ||
And here we go. | ||
Check this out. | ||
Justin Yao. | ||
He's, uh, at PDocumentarians, and he's a freelance journalist, tweeted, So here's the image. | ||
You can see fire season in effect. | ||
All burning prohibited. | ||
to leave. They are wary of outsiders based on rumors of arsonists setting fires in the | ||
area. | ||
So here's the image. You can see fire season in effect, all burning prohibited, fire danger | ||
listed as extreme. And there's, there's, we can see one guy right here who's armed. | ||
This guy doesn't appear to be, maybe he's got a handgun or something. | ||
This guy right here might actually be armed, also we can't see, we don't know for sure. | ||
But the way, you know what I think when I see this? | ||
They don't want outsiders coming in, there's major fires and a massive natural disaster occurring. | ||
Why, should I be upset by them saying, you know? | ||
I don't think so. | ||
So what, what occurred to me when I saw this picture was that these guys don't want people to come in and start fires. | ||
I know, it's that simple, right? | ||
Yeah, and I'm not convinced firing guns is a good way to keep fires from starting, but I mean, they probably think it's better than nothing. | ||
They're like, just like, stay out, stay out of the national forest or whatever. | ||
So, if this was any other disaster, would we be surprised? | ||
You know, if there was like a flood, or a hurricane, or a tornado, and then, you know, there were armed guards like, we don't want looters, we don't want... You know what I mean? | ||
No, especially with a flood. | ||
If there were armed guards, I think they'd be very normal. | ||
So the responses to this are really interesting. | ||
Some of them, and it's kind of random, they're saying, and so this is turning into a partisan political issue. | ||
like far-right Chandler Pappas are spreading the rumors on social media. | ||
And so this is turning into a partisan political issue. | ||
Why should this be partisan? | ||
Oh my gosh, why? | ||
Because I just started a stream with a title saying BLM left this. | ||
Because it's the lens that which everything is being based right now. | ||
And for me, I guess I'll fully admit to there being an issue of like doing this live stream from this headline. | ||
But, it's because I see these posts getting a ton of traction. | ||
A lot of articles are popping up. | ||
People were contacting me, being like, yo, look what they're doing! | ||
Like, Antifa's going around setting fires on purpose! | ||
And I'm like, okay, maybe... First, I started researching it. | ||
It took me a little bit to actually confirm a lot of what they were saying, and I've excluded some of what I couldn't confirm. | ||
But it looks legit, like this guy was a protester, but people are taking it to, you know, like, I don't know, taking it pretty far. | ||
Yeah, he was a radical protester. | ||
Whether or not, whatever political party, that kind of radical protest is dangerous, where you take guns, weapons, and fireworks to a rally and try and set stuff on fire, like they did at Ted Wheeler's house, like, two weeks ago, trying to set the guy's house on fire. | ||
Well, that was a complex. | ||
A whole building with like 100 people in it? | ||
114 residences or something. | ||
They're gonna burn them to death. | ||
That was their plan. | ||
Yeah, it's a good plan. | ||
I don't know. | ||
I know, I shouldn't laugh, but it's like, it's that, that's that, yeah, dude. | ||
Well, it's tough, right? | ||
Because I don't want to come out and be like, people listen, the Antifa's are going around, they're burning down forests. | ||
Like, you've got people who broke through the windows and then someone lit a bunch of newspapers on fire and threw it on the first floor of Ted Wheeler's building. | ||
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Whoa. | |
So, naturally, you can say, they were trying to burn the place down, right? | ||
Looks like it. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Or what if they were just morons? | ||
It was a newspaper, so like, what are you gonna get done? | ||
It was like a stack, though. | ||
I mean, you could... They were definitely morons. | ||
You could burn a building down. | ||
No judgment. | ||
But that's not a good thing to do right now. | ||
Yeah, seriously. | ||
You can get your point across in many other ways. | ||
Write a song. | ||
But maybe they don't want the point across, maybe they want to kill people. | ||
Why, though? | ||
Well, so, this is what I'm trying to say, like, I'm really reluctant to be like, they were trying to kill people. | ||
But they were trying to burn them. | ||
Weren't they trying to kill people? | ||
In their house. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yeah, it seems like they were trying to kill everyone. | ||
Like, they're that angry that they're gonna... At least negligent. | ||
But I wonder, because here's why I'm reluctant to actually go that far, because I've talked about what happens when they show up, when the mob shows up to your house. | ||
And what happens is, one person, like, here's what happens at Ted Wheeler's place. | ||
Someone runs up and throws a brick through the window and it shatters. | ||
And then he runs away. | ||
And then other people see him, when he's running up to it before he throws it, they're like, oh, I'm gonna walk up too. | ||
He throws the brick, it shatters, and it runs, and then someone looks through the window. | ||
Someone- people behind him see him going towards the window like he's gonna go in, and they go in, and one by one, it's like an avalanche. | ||
Each individual is just doing a little- a little incremental thing and leaving, but the whole group is moving, and then all of a sudden they're inside, then someone looks over and they see like, you know, some thing, they take it, and then people see him grabbing something, so they all start grabbing stuff, and then some dude chucks the flaming debris that's- someone else lights debris on fire, someone sees it and chucks it into the building and runs off. | ||
So they're all doing a little bit to like stack up. | ||
I think these people are desensitized because of, I don't know why, because they've been exposed as a five-year-old to pornography or violent video games and their minds are all like, I can light stuff on fire and then reload the game later if it doesn't work out. | ||
Interesting. | ||
I don't know. | ||
I think there's no, there's no punishment. | ||
I think people like these, you know, it's crazy. | ||
It's like, aren't they scared of going to prison? | ||
You know? | ||
I don't know. | ||
It's almost like they're not. | ||
Well, I mean, the people that were faking, I mean, I don't know that they were faking having, what was it? | ||
Seizures? | ||
Yeah. | ||
They might've been afraid of going and that's why they were faking a seizure. | ||
I don't know, man. | ||
It's little kids having temper tantrums. | ||
That's what it seems like to me. | ||
So the context here is, yeah, like during the riots, there were people who were, when they get arrested, they have these Hollywood-style seizures. | ||
And anybody who's ever actually witnessed a seizure is like, that is not a seizure. | ||
You are acting something you saw in a movie. | ||
Seizures are not dramatic. | ||
Yeah, yeah, so like there's like a video of and but that the EMTs and the medics will hold their heads properly Just because they're like, you know, and it's really funny man. | ||
I it's so it's so annoying You got this video of an actual EMT with armor and like, you know, he's cities you sanctioned gear he's holding the man's head doing everything properly because I like this is the basis of what I was trained when I did the first aid training and hostile environment stuff and The activists are yelling you need to turn him on his side. | ||
You need to turn his head. | ||
What are you doing? | ||
And I'm like Why are you, random protester, yelling at the emergency medical professional what they should be doing with someone who might be having a seizure? | ||
Wow. | ||
Because they saw it on TV, I think. | ||
Probably, yeah. | ||
And that's why people are doing the fake seizures, because they're acting like what they saw on TV. | ||
What is going on? | ||
Man, it's like... | ||
Why are they allowing these people to do it, is the bigger question. | ||
Yeah, it's like they don't want to shut it down without allowing them, because it's the United States. | ||
You want to give people the right to protest, and if that means that you trip and fall and break someone's arm while you're protesting, so be it. | ||
But then now they're like aggravating, like they're attempting to destroy people's arms and buildings. | ||
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The police? | |
No, the protesters. | ||
Oh yeah, for sure. | ||
And at that point, I don't know why they're letting it happen. | ||
I don't know, man. | ||
I'd love to get conspiratorial. | ||
Do it. | ||
Just like the district attorneys in Washington are in on Antifa and won't charge them? | ||
That'd be crazy. | ||
It's not even conspiratorial. | ||
They've said that much. | ||
We're not going to charge them. | ||
So what we're seeing in Portland with these riots, and they've actually chilled out quite a bit. | ||
So I don't know if you guys have been, I think we've all been kind of following what's going on. | ||
And for those that are listening, the people in Portland last night, Dance party. | ||
That's awesome. | ||
That's it. | ||
And I'm like, I'm like, bravo, everybody. | ||
It's amazing. | ||
Thank you for the dance party. | ||
I reported on it. | ||
I said it was really great. | ||
You did that. | ||
And I wondered, where are the extremists? | ||
They've been out there for a hundred and something nights. | ||
And all of a sudden, the past couple of nights, everything kind of just, you know, dance partied out. | ||
It's federal, right? | ||
The feds came in and they deputized the cops and then snatched up the terrorists. | ||
It's time. | ||
Plucked them out. | ||
And now all that's left is a bunch of dance, a dance party. | ||
All right. | ||
So what ends up happening with these district attorneys and these other jurisdictions is that you have a big group of regular people, and then you have some extremists. | ||
The extremists start the fight, but they tell everybody to wear all black. | ||
So when the cops were going in and trying to arrest, like, they'll see someone throw an explosive, right? | ||
The cops will run in and grab the person and say, we don't know if this is the person who threw that because they all are wearing the same thing. | ||
Yeah. | ||
So they charge them with interfering with a peace officer or something like that, or disorderly. | ||
The DA then says, so you don't actually know what they did? | ||
I can't charge them with this. | ||
Free to go! | ||
I would have a similar thing where if I would drop a piece of food on the ground, I'd look around and if I couldn't find it, I'd just pick up one little piece of trash and throw it away. | ||
One for one. | ||
So what you're saying is you're violating the rights of that garbage? | ||
I did. | ||
It was not in fact your garbage? | ||
No, but the point is the tactic of Antifa is to confuse the police and become impossible to identify. | ||
How do you get around that? | ||
They tried charging them with conspiracy in DC in 2017. | ||
The ones that would get in the way? | ||
So the cops just arrested all of them, and then charged them all with conspiracy. | ||
Okay, that's heavy-handed. | ||
Yeah, I don't know what you do, man. | ||
Well, if you're out there wearing black, you're allowed to do that. | ||
You know what you're doing. | ||
No, that's rough. | ||
It seems like you're signing up for something. | ||
Look, let's say you go for a jog and you're wearing black sweatpants, or let's say you're wearing an Adidas tracksuit and a hoodie or something. | ||
You're going to look very, very similar to the rest of them. | ||
And so they're going to arrest everybody and they're going to say, no, look how he's dressed. | ||
He's in on it. | ||
You can't, you can't arrest somebody for that. | ||
You're not supposed to wear black and white. | ||
In D.C. | ||
it was during the day. | ||
Yeah, you can't arrest everybody. | ||
That's not the way to do it. | ||
They arrested like 200 and something people. | ||
And then the charges all basically, look, some people pled guilty, pleaded guilty. | ||
They were like, it's easier, they thought they were gonna get in trouble and it was gonna be bad. | ||
So the cops, the state ended up getting a handful of these people, but then everyone else stood their ground and said no, and then the charges all just got dismissed. | ||
Because the judge did the same thing, it's like, you have no evidence this person did anything wrong. | ||
You can't, just because they're wearing a hoodie, and the argument from the prosecutors, I don't know if this is their exact argument, but the general idea is, if they tell everyone, wear all black so that we get away with crimes, You're aiding and abetting all these crimes and you pre-planned it. | ||
There was a guy, I saw a video where he was like, we don't want to record anyone doing crimes. | ||
And then the guy went up and like, did a crime or something. | ||
That sounds right. | ||
We don't want to record this. | ||
Have you seen that video of the kids getting arrested at one of the protests and they're like crying and freaking out? | ||
No, I don't think so. | ||
But the girl was wearing a shirt that said, be gay, do crimes. | ||
Oh my gosh. | ||
And it's like a meme thing, like do crimes. | ||
It's like you say something and say do crimes. | ||
It's like, dude, they don't understand what it means to do crimes. | ||
Like, they've not grown up in any world with any kind of discipline. | ||
And so what happens is, it's crazy. | ||
You grow up in the city and you actually see, like the inner city stuff, and you see some dude running down the street full speed and the cops tackle him and then throw him in a police car. | ||
You're like, wow, I don't want that to happen. | ||
But if you grow up never seeing it, what do you get? | ||
You get these videos of these women in New York going, Or effing what to the cops. | ||
Oh, that was great. | ||
And the cop grabs her and just pulls her like, oh, help, help! | ||
Justice. | ||
Vindication, seriously. | ||
You know, if it's a bad law, then I think it's your duty as a sovereign human to violate it and cause a crime, which is crazy. | ||
But if it's a vicious, like, immoral law that some corrupt government put into place, you kind of have to commit a crime. | ||
Maybe that's too absolute, though. | ||
Nazi Germany, for instance, they had horrible laws that people had to violate and became criminals just to do the right thing. | ||
And there's a really good point about, there's like a protest sign, and the left loves to prop these things up, where it was like, the Nazis were acting legally, and the people who were helping the Jews escape were the criminals. | ||
So absolutely, like, yeah, just like law does not mean morality by any means. | ||
But I say absolute because maybe sometimes there's unjust laws and the appropriate response is like tactful legislation. | ||
Petitioning your legislation to change the law. | ||
Yeah, like something dumb. | ||
I don't know, there could be some dumb law about computer programs and labor rights or something. | ||
Jaywalking. | ||
Like if you think, I guess the challenge there why I say it's you gotta be careful about how absolute you go is because some people are gonna be like, I believe that taxes are, you know. | ||
Oh yeah, like making their own moral justification. | ||
And then they go and do something crazy. | ||
Right. | ||
Law and order is so important. | ||
I believe I have a right to, you know, and they insert nonsensical psychotic. | ||
I guess it's why we put so much faith in our lawmakers and why having these almost like clowns dance around and in office for 40 years disassociated from the populace is so detrimental to people's psyche right now and why they're out there. | ||
They don't know if they should or shouldn't. | ||
A lot of these leftists think that the logic you just said, they have to stop these unjust laws. | ||
So they're going out and they're throwing explosives and starting fires and attacking people. | ||
Because they think they're in Nazi Germany. | ||
But what laws are the unjust that you know? | ||
I mean... They literally think police shouldn't exist. | ||
Oh, that's... no, okay, that's extreme. | ||
Right, but imagine you have a large group of people saying that it's unjust to have police incarcerating people. | ||
That's crazy. | ||
So they go and they're like, abolish the police! | ||
Then they need to study mercenary warfare before we invented standing armies. | ||
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They need to study, seriously. | |
Because the mercenaries would be hired to cause chaos, they would, and then when the war would end, they'd go cause more chaos so they'd get hired by the other side to go stop it. | ||
And it was... That sounds like, um, the premise to... Actually, it sounds like the premise to Iron Man 1 and 3. | ||
Oh, wow. | ||
Yeah, have you guys seen... You've seen them both, right? | ||
I saw the first one. | ||
Yeah, the first one is, uh, the bad guy, what's his name? | ||
Ironmonger Obadiah. | ||
He's dealing weapons to the terrorists. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
So, you know, so that he can get what he wants or whatever, but then he's also making weapons you know, for the United States, so he's double dealing. | ||
And Tony's like, are we double dealing? | ||
But then you literally have in Iron Man 3, the bad guy, Aldrich Killian, | ||
is like, I'll have the president and the world's most powerful terrorist, I'll own the war | ||
on terror. | ||
I'm like, that's like the same plot from the first one with a different villain. | ||
Oh, how cheap. | ||
His name's Killian, too. | ||
It's like so, so cliche. | ||
Anyway, the point is, you've got people who think they're... This is a serious challenge. | ||
You know what the ethical conundrum is? | ||
That if the Nazis won, then everything they did would be called just. | ||
Isn't that nuts? | ||
It's scary. | ||
It's very scary. | ||
And like, what world are we living in? | ||
Did our ancient ancestors win and they were the bad guys? | ||
Bro, do you know about the Japanese experiments in World War II? | ||
A little bit. | ||
And we just, what was it, Operation Paperclip? | ||
You know about that? | ||
That's when we brought a bunch of scientists from Nazi Germany into the U.S. | ||
to continue their work. | ||
So we were more than willing to be like, we'll take all of what you got. | ||
We need smart people. | ||
Science first. | ||
Dude, what's that unit in Japan? | ||
Uh, 741? | ||
Was that what it was? | ||
Or 471? | ||
Was that what it was? | ||
Let me double check, yeah. | ||
They would, like, take someone's arm and put it through a hole in, like, a crate or something, into, like, a refrigerator or something, to watch it freeze in real time to see what would happen. | ||
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Oh. | |
Yeah, dude. | ||
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Jeez. | |
They did really creepy stuff. | ||
And this is just the stuff we know about. | ||
Right. | ||
Since radio and television were invented. | ||
Like, before that, before... Oh, it was way worse. | ||
Oh my gosh, the wheel, the way they would torture and execute people, like, 400 years ago. | ||
You should look up the wheel. | ||
It's such a digit. | ||
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They would tie people to a rack and then break their arms on the wheel. | |
Exactly. | ||
So if you're interested in that, okay, I was totally wrong about the number of the unit. | ||
It's unit 731. | ||
731. | ||
Yeah. | ||
And then, yeah, so much, so much torture. | ||
It's amazing that we have peace at all. | ||
Like, people don't understand peace is the anomaly. | ||
I was reading that a lot of what we know about hypothermia, we only know because of that, was it 731? | ||
731, holy cow. | ||
Yeah, that we took their research. | ||
And so it benefited us, but the human exploitation and experimentation and all that stuff happened. | ||
So, anyway, look, I think a reasonable human being hears a story of, like, scientists putting humans into, like, torture devices to watch their bones break, and we're like, yo, that's evil stuff! | ||
Or they're, like, you know, taking people for no reason other than their ethnic background and loading them on trains, and we're like, dude! | ||
And then you have police who are like, please stop burning down the neighborhood, and they're like, we live in a fascist dictatorship! | ||
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No. | |
It'd be a hard job to be a cop. | ||
I've never been a cop. | ||
I don't know if you guys have. | ||
I mean, I don't think either of you guys have ever been cops. | ||
No. | ||
So go out there and be afraid someone's going to fire on you to shoot you, basically, if you don't shoot them first. | ||
A cop got shot in the head in Vegas. | ||
And he's paralyzed now. | ||
This is crazy! | ||
What a crazy job! | ||
And I don't want robots to do it, because the robot is gonna be on automatic, and it's gonna be like, you are guilty, or whatever. | ||
I don't know though, I don't know though. | ||
Because the robot's not gonna have to use lethal force, because the robot's not alive. | ||
Indestructible. | ||
I mean, not indestructible, but the robot doesn't need to fear for its own destruction. | ||
That's a good point. | ||
It can be repaired inside a person, so the robot can have only less lethals and be effective. | ||
That's a good point. | ||
However, a robot's not gonna chase down a dude hopping fences. | ||
Well... | ||
Have you seen those Boston Dynamics? | ||
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Oh, dude, I do not want to live in that world. | |
But what if it's only for just? | ||
No, no, no, no, no. | ||
It's going to turn around and be like, it's going to face a recognition you and it's going to go, Ian Crosland, you have jaywalked. | ||
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I didn't mean to drop the paint. | |
You have jaywalked for the last time. | ||
Yeah, one time I was in LA, I was driving down a hill at night and it was raining and I was moving fast down the hill and the light turned yellow and I hit my brakes but I was gonna skid and I didn't know if someone was coming behind me so I just, it turned red and I just went through it because it was the safe thing to do. | ||
If I slammed on my brakes and someone came behind me it would have been an accident. | ||
Robot cop would arrest you. | ||
The camera took a picture of my car and sent me a ticket but a cop wouldn't have. | ||
A cop would have been like, you did the right thing. | ||
And I've had a friend who got a ticket in the mail for blowing a red light, and they show you the picture of you doing it, and it was basically a comic of someone doing a legal right turn on red. | ||
It was like, you see the car pull up, stop, and then the next panel's just waiting, and then it's turning to the right. | ||
Yeah, clerical error alone is... I mean, humans have clerical error, and that's kind of what there's these revolutions about right now. | ||
Think about what happens if... So if the robot has no lethal capabilities, and it can catch you, That might not be a bad thing. | ||
Stun you? | ||
Because, what's the word? | ||
Put you to sleep? | ||
But it might not need to do those things. | ||
It can just grab you and you're like, ah, I can't get off this robot and I can't carry it, it's too heavy, what do I do? | ||
Break a bone trying to get away. | ||
I mean, but you might be right. | ||
I mean, if you do that... Just subduction, is that the word? | ||
Subduing people? | ||
Subduction. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Sounds right. | ||
Maybe, I mean, kind of right, kind of wrong. | ||
Subduing people? | ||
You know, so I guess the issue is... | ||
Maybe it does make sense, and maybe it can be done better, because, like I mentioned, if the robot breaks, it's vandalism. | ||
So cops could be in a VR helmet, like how drone pilots are, commanding their AI robot. | ||
Have you seen those things where it's like a cradle, where you strap on a harness, and then you stand to the VR gaming rig? | ||
Oh no, let's get one. | ||
And you wear these special shoes, and you're in a bowl, and you- when you run, your feet slide. | ||
Yes! | ||
I love those things. | ||
So the cops have- so basically like, like the movie Surrogates. | ||
I haven't seen it. | ||
So like, in Surrogates, everybody lays in this bed, and then connects their brain to a fake robot version of themselves. | ||
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And that's- it's- or maybe even like Ghost in the Shell. | ||
Nah, that's still human- human, uh, acti- like- Right. | ||
The problem with, like, a robot is that you're gonna be, like, on your way to your job, and you don't have money for bail, and you really need this interview, and the robot's gonna look at you and go, you blew the red light, Ian, and you go, I'm walking. | ||
Submit! | ||
I'm not driving, I didn't blow up. | ||
Submit! | ||
Submit! | ||
And you're like... | ||
It could be way worse. | ||
Who programs the robots? | ||
I don't know. | ||
We would have to be free software. | ||
We would have to know the code. | ||
On demand, you would have to be able to look at the robot's code, like, show me your badge number, show me your code to make sure it's not doing something faulty. | ||
The robot could maybe just hold you until a human officer showed up, but then you still have the problem of the human officer being like, look, I don't know what happened, I have to review the file, you're under arrest. | ||
And then what if the robot malfunctions and it accuses you of like some really crazy crime? | ||
I know, that's dystopia. | ||
But I guess they could review footage and then have to prove it. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Otherwise you get cut loose immediately. | ||
You know what, this could be, like, there is a net benefit to the surveillance state that people often don't talk about. | ||
Sure. | ||
So I was reading this thing on Reddit about I think it was on Reddit, how they catch serial killers. | ||
What was I watching? | ||
I think I was watching Sherlock, the BBC one. | ||
That show's pretty good, actually. | ||
I'm gonna watch more of that. | ||
It's a Benedict. | ||
Yeah, Benedict Cumberbatch. | ||
Yeah, he's great. | ||
And they said, like, how would you go about catching a serial killer today? | ||
And they said, what people don't realize is that it's actually really easy to... Oh, no, no, no. | ||
I think I was watching... I was watching Red Dragon. | ||
Oh, yeah, we just watched that. | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
And they were saying, why am I watching these similar color things? | ||
I just watched Dexter. | ||
No, I'm just kidding. | ||
No, they said basically, when there's a car spotted, they just punch it in and they can pull up surveillance footage from a lot of things that are like networked and facial recognition. | ||
And then they immediately are like, oh, look, we found out who was there. | ||
And here's our suspect. | ||
Fingerprints in general, man. | ||
That was a huge leap forward in law enforcement that I think, for the most part, has done a lot of good for society. | ||
Criminals are caught, you know, that otherwise would have just been in and out. | ||
Think about what the surveillance state can actually end up doing good. | ||
I ultimately think the surveillance state is going to be really bad. | ||
Because I think there's certain laws that have to be broken, and I'll talk about in a second. | ||
But, uh, think about it this way. | ||
We hear all these stories about innocent people getting charged and innocent people going on death row. | ||
Imagine if a dude, you know, the cops show up to his house and say, the description, you know, of this murder, they said, you are the suspect. | ||
And the guy goes, dude, I wasn't anywhere near there. | ||
I was at work that day. | ||
And they go, oh yeah? | ||
Well, we're gonna check the surveillance network. | ||
It looks like you were right. | ||
Sorry to waste your time, sir. | ||
And they leave. | ||
So it can prove innocence. | ||
People are worried about it because you'll be like found guilty or caught. | ||
And I'm kind of like... There is something to be concerned about because we never get rid of laws. | ||
Right. | ||
That's the big problem. | ||
It's so easy to make them relative to getting rid of them. | ||
So then how do you actually get rid of these laws? | ||
I don't know. | ||
You have to repeal them. | ||
People have to break them sometimes. | ||
Or go, yeah, go to a state next to where it's illegal and do it until the people are pressured to change it where they are. | ||
But if it's a federal thing, then how do you do that? | ||
Marijuana is a really good example. | ||
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I was talking to this hacker. | ||
His name's Moxie Marlon Spike. | ||
And he explained to me the problem with mass surveillance and a lack of secrecy and privacy is that people need to break the law to know when laws should be broken or should be repealed. | ||
And he said marijuana is the best example. | ||
If people weren't breaking the law by smoking it, Then how would they know they wanted it to be legal? | ||
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That's a good point. | |
So the problem then is not about whether you think marijuana should be legal or not legal. | ||
It's that, illegal or not, is that we keep making new laws. | ||
And when do we get rid of them? | ||
My favorite is there's like, there are books about wacky laws. | ||
I don't know if you've ever seen them. | ||
A little bit. | ||
It's like, you can't take a shower on Tuesdays, you know, if it's sunny out or something like that. | ||
You can't tie your goat up to stop signs. | ||
Stuff like that. | ||
That makes sense though. | ||
There was one where it was like, you can't make a cherry pie and put it on your window sill on Sunday afternoon. | ||
Oh, because it's tempting. | ||
All the churchgoers, you don't want to... What happened to make these laws required? | ||
These laws are interesting to me because you know there's really interesting stories behind all of that. | ||
Like, why can't you put a cherry pie on your windowsill? | ||
Why can't you tie a goat to a stop sign? | ||
And it's probably some law that was created just to appease, like, an angry old lady. | ||
Probably. | ||
Like, her neighbor kept putting pies. | ||
It was a Karen. | ||
Yeah, her neighbor was attracting the local kids. | ||
Yep. | ||
So she went to, like, the local mayor. | ||
Those darn kids. | ||
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And was like, these kids keep coming because she's putting her pies up! | |
She knew somebody. | ||
Yeah, she had connections. | ||
And the mayor's like, okay, how about you can make your pies, put them on the windowsill, but not on Sunday because we're gonna go to church and you don't want the kids coming around. | ||
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Leave her alone! | |
Fine. | ||
Now there are these crazy laws. | ||
There's like, there's a lot of the laws that are crazier about like water conservation. | ||
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Like you can't take a bath on this day at this time. | ||
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Something like that. | ||
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Whoa. | |
And it's like we never got rid of those laws. | ||
Oh, okay. | ||
But I, I, I, that's what, this is what judges are for. | ||
Like if, if a cop kicked in your door, It's like, aha, taking a bath on Sunday at 4 p.m. | ||
Oh, snap. | ||
Jimmy, lock him up. | ||
The judge is gonna be like, get outta here, what is this? | ||
There's some weird federal laws on the books right now, like ancient, you know, espionage. | ||
Is it the Espionage Act? | ||
Is that one that's like this old from like the 1780? | ||
Logan Act. | ||
The Logan Act? | ||
How old is that? | ||
1700, late 1700s, I think. | ||
And it's one of the, I don't know much about it, but. | ||
It's that you can't represent, you can't, so this is what got Michael Flynn, and it's a bunk law because it's never been used. | ||
You can't go to a foreign country and claim to represent the US | ||
The law was made because we didn't have phones right if you if like if you went to Egypt and you like went | ||
to a state building and you said you were like a Diplomat they'd be like they pick up their phone and be | ||
like no you're not is Ian Cross on a diplomat | ||
What are you doing here? | ||
It's that simple. | ||
There's no real concern about it. | ||
You get charged on the Logan Act. | ||
I'm not sure if the Logan Act applies to private citizens. | ||
I think it does, right? | ||
I'm not sure. | ||
I don't think it does. | ||
But like a congressman couldn't go to Egypt and be like, I'm here on behalf of the United States. | ||
I think that's it. | ||
That's right. | ||
Actually, yeah, I think they're not there on behalf of the United States. | ||
You know what? | ||
That's a good question, actually. | ||
I know that, yeah, maybe it has to do with you're there as a part of a delegation that's confirmed and assigned versus you going there as a private citizen and negotiating. | ||
There are some concerns about it, like, if Trump is negotiating some deal with, say, Iran, and then a senator flies to Iran and then undercuts that deal. | ||
There's issues there. | ||
But, like, the Logan Act is one of these laws that doesn't really make sense anymore. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Because they can make a phone call. | ||
If they know you're a senator, you don't have to say you're a senator to go talk to some Israeli businessman. | ||
I mean, so are you auto... just by nature of your title are you... If you DM someone on Twitter, is it... | ||
Exactly, with the internet, like cross-border communication is just so natural now. | ||
So anyway though, back to the point before we go off into, you know, Wally World or whatever. | ||
The stratosphere. | ||
Deep space. | ||
What do we do to get rid of all these laws? | ||
Should we have like a lawdit? | ||
Yeah. | ||
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And we go through all the laws, like this one's gotta go, this one's gotta go. | |
I'm gonna spin the UFO for that because we should do a lawdit and smash that like button if you like that word as much as I do. | ||
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Lawdit. | |
I'm adding it to the dictionary to speak. | ||
No, but for real, yeah, we've got, uh... It seems like we only ever stack laws up. | ||
Very much. | ||
Could you imagine a robot that enforced every single law? | ||
It would be pure insanity. | ||
That'd be a really chaos. | ||
It would probably have conflicting laws. | ||
Yeah, dude. | ||
Yeah, definitely. | ||
Especially when you do federal law and state law. | ||
I am federal. | ||
I am state. | ||
Robot warfare. | ||
They probably oh man well I mean that kind of exists today but could you imagine like | ||
DEA robots encountering state police robots? | ||
And warfare. | ||
And then the robots are just fighting in the street because like the laws are different. | ||
And the criminals are running around. | ||
Think about it this way. | ||
With the kind of chaos we've seen where the states are going up against the federal government right now, like, say, Oregon, for instance, where the Attorney General sued the federal government, and they're saying, like, you can't do these things here. | ||
We had a DA in Philly say that he would arrest feds if they came to enforce the law in Philly or something like that. | ||
So what would happen if the state robots are programmed and they're like, don't allow anyone else to enforce the law. | ||
Federals are not allowed to be here. | ||
Then ATF or robots or like Federal Protective Service robots show up and then the robots like, I'm imagining those Boston Dynamics things and they like run and they see you and they're like, Citizen, you are in violation of, you know, City Ordinance Unlawful Assembly Declared. | ||
You're freaking me out. | ||
And then the other robot runs up and goes, you know, like, Law Enforcement Unit 7369 Federal 234, you are in violation. | ||
And they both start spouting code at each other. | ||
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And they both just grab each other and start shaking. | ||
Interface. | ||
And they're like, zzzz. | ||
And then they start zzzz. | ||
And then one climbs on top of the other and now there's two robots and they're running around. | ||
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Oh, it's crazy. | |
I think you're right because if there's bad laws and a robot has to enforce that, that is bad news. | ||
Humans are like, I know it's bad. | ||
I'm not going to enforce it. | ||
Like you see cops, they were like... Well, in theory. | ||
In theory. | ||
I don't know about that. | ||
Okay, maybe you're right though. | ||
Maybe it's actually like an anomaly when a human disenforces a bad law. | ||
I mean, you've got these cops in Virginia saying, the sheriffs, we're not going to enforce these gun control measures. | ||
You know, they're violations of the Second Amendment. | ||
And they started setting up these sanctuary jurisdictions. | ||
That's the police being like, I will not cross that line. | ||
But if we did robots, then you could just be like, here's the law update. | ||
And then you're like, it's like a gigabyte file of all these crazy laws. | ||
Yeah, yeah. | ||
So this could be like how they do plane manuals. | ||
Because instead of carrying really big, thick books around now, pilots just have these tablets that they carry with them, and before every single flight, the manual for the whole plane is updated, and they can look through it if they need to. | ||
So imagine, like, you're standing next to a robot, and you're like, uh, you're like, Robot! | ||
Inquiry! | ||
And the robot goes, Yes, citizen. | ||
Would it be illegal if I, uh, crossed the street right here? | ||
No, you're okay, thank you. | ||
And then all of a sudden it blinks a light, downloading new laws. | ||
And then you cross the street and it goes, stop citizen, you have violated the law. | ||
And then you're like, wait, what? | ||
That'd be cool because the robots would never get tired of answering your questions. | ||
And they wouldn't get frustrated. | ||
And if you could be like at any time, tell me the law, they would have it for you. | ||
I actually think it might be cool to have robot cops. | ||
But, uh, because I think it would reduce the amount of, it would actually reduce the amount of physical harm that comes to people. | ||
Like humans make mistakes too. | ||
Robots don't make mistakes. | ||
They get scared. | ||
Robots don't get scared. | ||
And so the robot, but also that the robot's going to be like, there's no fear of lethal, like lethal force. | ||
So you could be a criminal running with a gun and the robot's going to be faster than you. | ||
It's going to be able to run longer. | ||
You're not, it's going to subdue you. | ||
It's going to, uh, it's going to have connections to like helicopter. | ||
It's going to ignore, it can see you from the helicopter. | ||
So like it doesn't, you know, it doesn't, it can track you easier with like stuff. | ||
I agree with you, man. | ||
I'm all about using technology to help solve problems. | ||
The challenge, I guess, is like we already said, though, the laws get out of hand. | ||
Right. | ||
Right. | ||
Yeah. | ||
And sometimes, you know what? | ||
To be fair, though, maybe we'll get to that point where we'll create some good A.I. | ||
that can have better judgment. | ||
One of the really interesting things about A.I. | ||
and judgment right now is self-driving cars. | ||
So one of the biggest problems with self-driving cars is that somebody has to program whether the car crashes into a grandmother or a baby. | ||
Oh, that's wild. | ||
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Yep. | ||
So I don't know if you guys have heard about this. | ||
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So basically, When a human is driving a car, and then all of a sudden an old lady stumbles out in front of the car, you're like, oh no! | ||
And then you have a split second, and it's like, if I keep going forward, old lady goes flying. | ||
If I veer left, I will crash into a tree and die. | ||
Someone, so you choose. | ||
And if you hit the old lady, like you might get some kind of charge. | ||
It might be considered an accident. | ||
You might not get in trouble. | ||
You'll live. | ||
If you try and avoid the old lady and you die, you made the choice. | ||
And everyone makes a choice, you know, based on their own morality or whatever. | ||
Someone's got a program into these self-driving cars. | ||
Which one to kill? | ||
And then does it- The driver or the- Does it go to like the car company? | ||
Have to cover the legal ramifications? | ||
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I don't think so. | |
I think it'd be an insurance company. | ||
The insurance company. | ||
So if your car, automated car, kills somebody, it's not in your hands. | ||
It would be... Would you get in a car that told you outright, if this car encounters any potential lethal, fatal instance, it will sacrifice you? | ||
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No. | |
Yeah, I wouldn't either! | ||
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No, there's no way. | |
Hi, welcome to Tesla Automatic Driving Car. | ||
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Good luck. | |
If we crash, we'll kill you. | ||
It's like, no, I'd rather... We'll kill you first. | ||
Yeah, I'd rather... What have you done? | ||
I bumped the table. | ||
You broke the UFO. | ||
You got the magic touch. | ||
No, you have to do it. | ||
Knock the UFO off. | ||
So you just gotta center it. | ||
Anyway, we talked enough about robots. | ||
No, we haven't talked enough about robots. | ||
Let's talk about what's going on with the Oath Keepers, man. | ||
Check this out, everybody. | ||
We got some news. | ||
Did you figure it out? | ||
I think so. | ||
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No, you can't get it. | |
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Just take it off, otherwise it'll overheat from that. | ||
Check this out! | ||
Twitter bans far-right extremist group, the Oath Keepers. | ||
The company says the group violated its policies on violent extremist group. | ||
The first question I have is, Ian, do you know who the Oath Keepers are? | ||
I'm just learning about them today and yesterday. | ||
Do you? | ||
I do, I do. | ||
Do you think they're an extremist group? | ||
They are not. | ||
I don't think so either. | ||
They're like the three percenters. | ||
Yeah, I think they're just like, well, I think they've been pushing the rhetoric for sure. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Okay, well, they're like middle-aged guys who really want to do something and this is what they do on Saturday afternoons is the vibe I kind of get off them? | ||
I'm not convinced, yeah. | ||
I'm not convinced they're going to do anything crazy. | ||
Isn't like the general concept of the group is that they're staunch constitutionalists? | ||
Yeah, I think that's why they're called Oath Keepers. | ||
This is going to be really interesting. | ||
You know, because we got problems, man. | ||
I'll tell you what. | ||
I'm not a fan of people calling for violence. | ||
I think we got to simmer everything down. | ||
But I've been having conversation after conversation about how the Constitution is Swiss cheese. | ||
It's a guideline at the very least. | ||
I mean, not even. | ||
There's no penalty for any of these lawmakers proposing unconstitutional laws and getting them passed and then violating people's rights. | ||
It's incumbent upon you to sue if your rights were violated. | ||
What's an example of something? | ||
Is there anything that stands on top of your head? | ||
If you want to... | ||
Look, to be fair, there are a lot of things in the Constitution that, like, rules have | ||
been imposed based on Supreme Court rulings, specifically on, like, Second Amendment's | ||
the easiest one. | ||
But search and seizure. | ||
It'd be violated every day, okay? | ||
Like, metadata spying. | ||
Oh, that really seems weird. | ||
The NSA spying stuff that Snowden revealed? | ||
Like, that's really obvious. | ||
The CIA got invented in, like, the 40s, and that didn't exist when they wrote the Constitution. | ||
I'm gonna give a mention to Caitlyn Bennett. | ||
You know who she is? | ||
She's the gun rights activist from Kent State. | ||
Is it she from Kent State? | ||
Alma mater, what up? | ||
Okay, so this video going around today of her, and she is angry mob screaming, you know, F you and stuff, and the cop says, you have to leave. | ||
And she's like, why? | ||
I didn't do anything. | ||
And the cop says, I can't control these people. | ||
So we're gonna leave. | ||
We'll make you leave because it'll, you know, be safe. | ||
And then she says, a very good point. | ||
If you can't control them now, you're not gonna be able to control them even if I leave. | ||
And that's true. | ||
But this is a really good example. | ||
The police straight up saying, we will violate your rights in order to make our job easier. | ||
That's it. | ||
So the police, they do this all the time. | ||
They will arrest you saying you're out of line and you're interfering with police work because the crowd's angry at you. | ||
And this is because they're fearing for their own personal safety. | ||
It's the way I've often described it. | ||
If you put a human being in front of a giant, angry, screaming mob, and they say, okay, I can try and get a ton of officers to stop this mob, or I can just arrest the one person. | ||
Oh, that's a slippery slope. | ||
But that's what they do! | ||
That's what I see. So listen, this is why I've explained that as the chaos and the calamities escalates, | ||
that there's a real fear that with these extremists showing up to the homes of mayors and police chiefs, | ||
like they showed up to the home of Carmen Best, the Seattle police chief, | ||
and the neighbors came out with guns, eventually they're gonna come to someone's house, and the | ||
mob's gonna be so large, the people there, like, imagine if a mob showed up in front | ||
of our house. | ||
And then, we're like, what do we do? | ||
Call the police! | ||
The police show up and see 300 people screaming and throwing bricks and, rah! | ||
Rabble, rabble, rabble! | ||
And they're like, oh man, what do we do? | ||
And they're like, what do these people want? | ||
And they're like, arrest them! | ||
They're Nazis, arrest them! | ||
The cops are like, we can't stop them. | ||
And they're gonna hurt a lot of people. | ||
But if we arrest the people in this house, maybe they'll stop. | ||
So the police capitulating to mob justice is unconstitutional? | ||
But the police can't do anything about it because they're not strong enough? | ||
A cop arresting you for expressing your free speech rights because other people are threatening you? | ||
Like, you're not committing any crimes! | ||
Wait, the cop didn't threaten to arrest Caitlyn. | ||
Did he actually effectively kick her out, and did he even have backup, or was he like a security guard? | ||
He removed her, and I'd be willing to bet she would have been arrested if she said no. | ||
Remember when Ben Shapiro tried speaking at that event? | ||
And the cop was like, if you cross this line, you will be arrested. | ||
I remember that. | ||
Yeah, exactly. | ||
What did Ben Shapiro do? | ||
Nothing. | ||
He was gonna speak at a college campus. | ||
Protestors showed up, started screaming, rabble, rabble, rabble. | ||
And then Ben was like, I'm supposed to speak here. | ||
And the cop's like, I don't care. | ||
Is it because the cop's job is to keep the peace at a local level? | ||
Whatever the national law or state law is, it's the local peace that's the first priority? | ||
I don't know, man. | ||
I don't know if their priority is supposed to be keeping the peace, but I'll tell you this. | ||
I have a right to speak. | ||
I have a First Amendment right. | ||
If other people are committing crimes, the police need to arrest those committing crimes, not me. | ||
And peace can come from, like, Subduing who you hate like if a crowd goes and wants to lynch somebody if they get to lynch the guy There might be peace afterwards, but right that justice it won't be though Let's be let's be real if if if they're all if they get away with this like they do with Ben They will keep doing it realizing it works tactic. | ||
Yeah. | ||
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So anyway, let's go back to what's going out the Oath Keepers The reason I bring all that up is they're staunch constitutionalists. | ||
They're banned now because they're basically... One of the things this guy tweeted, and I don't agree with it, he said the shots have been fired, the guy who died in Portland, and he says we're going to give Trump one more chance to declare this a Marxist insurrection, otherwise, you know, we're going to take action or something like that. | ||
And so there's very serious questions that are asked among very politically charged groups, even Antifa. | ||
At what point are they allowed to have a violent redress of grievances against the government? | ||
That's a scary thought. | ||
I think they should avoid doing that. | ||
If you study the Russian Revolution at all, this is kind of interesting, calling it Marxist, because... | ||
When capitalism starts to fail, as what it did in, you know, 20th, early 20th century, the Great Depression was coming on. | ||
There are other people look for other methods of economy and communism was the main one. | ||
And so it looks like people are in a similar situation with COVID shutting everything down people losing their, and so they're better than ever. | ||
Um, it technically Yeah, society in general, the poorest among us have a better than the richest 200 years ago, I would argue, but Responding to that uprising with violence, like they had the white army and the red army, basically the monarchs tried to stop the communist uprising by creating a white army and fighting back against them, so then the communists created a red army and fought back against them. | ||
It just escalated the violence. | ||
So I don't want to relive that. | ||
Who would you rather win? | ||
The far left or the far right? | ||
I don't know who they are, that's the problem. | ||
It's just extremists are extremists to me. | ||
Well, hold on, hold on. | ||
The Oath Keepers are... they purport that they are staunch constitutionalists. | ||
They don't seem far anything. | ||
That's middle of the road. | ||
You think? | ||
I mean, the Constitution's legit. | ||
Yeah. | ||
And then you have the far left, which are avowed Marxists and communists. | ||
People that want a Marxist revolution is a little extreme to me. | ||
It didn't work in Russia. | ||
Really, really didn't work because you have to put somebody in charge of like everybody's property. | ||
Yeah, you can't do that. | ||
If they had like an AI system built out that was going to be like a literal, like everyone had a piece and we had, you could measure it on like a blockchain and see, and no human was involved with like passing out anything. | ||
It just came to us. | ||
I could see like a technological revolution. | ||
We wouldn't call it, I'd call it something other than communism. | ||
Who designs the AI? | ||
It would have to be free software. | ||
It would have to be agreed upon, voted on, and then we'd have to see the code. | ||
Well, let me tell you something. | ||
If there was... I think one of the ideas the far left has, in terms of their goal for revolution, is that if they can purge any memory of liberty, then people won't crave what they don't know exists. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
It's true. | ||
Book-burning. | ||
So, yeah, yeah, right? | ||
If right now... Actually, have you seen... Let's do some Marvel references. | ||
Have you seen Captain America Winter Soldier? | ||
Negative. | ||
Yeah, yeah, I've seen it. | ||
That's the one where the bad guys took the Hydra-infiltrated... That's what it is, right? | ||
Hydra-infiltrated ship? | ||
I believe so, yeah. | ||
And then they want to have the giant helicarriers just kill all the undesirables? | ||
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Yeah, they're like, if we kill, you know, three billion people, those are the ones who cause the problems, then we'll have a bunch of, you know, just like, sheeple, I guess. | ||
They didn't use that word. | ||
But the general idea is, they think that if you have a society that from birth was raised to never understand concepts of freedom, then they would be happy. | ||
Ignorance is bliss. | ||
And that seems to be a tactic that they kind of go for. | ||
That's why everything they do is a lie, everything is manipulative, everything is deception. | ||
For me, that's the antithesis of, like, life, what you're supposed to do, explore, create, experience. | ||
And so they want to create a rigid, gray, colorless, you know, cube world, where everything's like, just... Have you read A Wrinkle in Time? | ||
Oh man, when I was like seven. | ||
We do not want that world. | ||
What is that world like? | ||
That's the gray, colorless, mother brain, controlling everything world. | ||
The Borg. | ||
Yeah, basically. | ||
And then you have the Borg Queen controlling everything. | ||
Ooh, funky. | ||
It does feel like we're headed towards Borg reality, man. | ||
Are you going to get the Neuralink? | ||
I'm going to let the people that have debilitating injuries test it for 10 years, you know, five years. | ||
Yeah, kind of like a right to try thing almost. | ||
And if they turn out to be superhuman and have mega access to the internet, yes. | ||
Super cool. | ||
Like the Neuralink people? | ||
Yeah. | ||
So, there's an Outer Limits episode about this, where everyone is connected to something called the stream. | ||
But then, like, the general idea of the stream is to give people access to knowledge. | ||
So they have these brain implants, and they don't think for themselves for the most part, because they don't have to. | ||
They'll be like, there's a door, and then they'll think. | ||
Like, it just streams the information right to their brain. | ||
So they know where everyone is, they know what everyone is doing. | ||
And so, there's one guy who's got some kind of, like, neurological issue where he can't get an implant. | ||
He has to read books. | ||
He's a normal guy, but they call him disabled because he can't... | ||
Access the stream, right? | ||
But then something happens where the stream's goal is to, like, acquire information and provide that information to people, but everything is information. | ||
So it starts creating information where it's like, how many hairs can you pull out of your head? | ||
Just, like, arbitrary. | ||
Oh, that sounds like Twitter. | ||
No, I'm just kidding. | ||
No, no, but right, that's kind of what I'm getting to, where you'll end up with a bunch of people, like, look how bad Twitter is. | ||
Right? | ||
Is it even a bad thing that Twitter has banned, you know, the Oath Keepers, in a sense? | ||
I don't know why they banned them. | ||
Well, because they were posting things like, you know, the first shot has been fired and whatever. | ||
Well, that other girl was posting all that violent stuff we were talking about yesterday. | ||
That's a good point. | ||
If it wasn't imminent calls for violence, then I don't think they should have been banned. | ||
Exactly. | ||
What was that lady's name? | ||
I agree with what you say about removing information. | ||
I think if someone's in that path, I don't agree with them, whether they're far, this or that. | ||
Yeah. | ||
You know what I was thinking too? | ||
The fact that if you did take liberty away from us within a generation, everyone would have forgotten because people adapt so quickly. | ||
This is why we've come up with like word of mouth, like storytelling. | ||
This is why we write stuff down and write books and we communicate with our children. | ||
It's because we don't want to forget the stuff that happened before us. | ||
We stopped doing it. | ||
This has happened. | ||
And before we know it, we're going to lose all this stuff we worked for. | ||
It's like, have you guys seen Stargate? | ||
Yeah, the movie. | ||
Like, we're just doing movie references tonight. | ||
Yeah, tonight is movie references. | ||
I love James Spader's The Man. | ||
When they meet the people they can't write because the aliens realized that humans having the ability to share information and record it allowed them to fight, like, realize their freedom and their rights. | ||
And so the enslaved people on the other planet are, like, scared of writing. | ||
But because of this, they can't organize properly and fight back. | ||
Yes, slaves weren't allowed to learn to read or write. | ||
That's amazing. | ||
And they had a verbal tradition, too. | ||
This is why they banned people from the Internet. | ||
Interesting. | ||
Do you think that liberty is a natural human desire? | ||
Yes. | ||
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Okay. | ||
Then you can never stop it. | ||
Listen, they just banned the Oath Keepers like today, I guess, was it? | ||
I think so, yeah. | ||
So I made this point, right? | ||
We talk a lot about civil unrest, the potential for civil war and all this stuff. | ||
And I hear all the time from the right, they're like, if there's ever a war, we're gonna crush the left! | ||
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And they like high five and chest bump and stuff. | ||
I'm kidding. | ||
But they say like, the left won't know what hit them because we have all the guns and stuff. | ||
And my response is, your internet will cut off. | ||
You're going to be sitting in your house and you're going to be like, I am ready if these people want to take my constitution, I'm ready to fight. | ||
And then all of a sudden your internet goes out and you're like, I wonder what's happening. | ||
Then what do you do? | ||
They're all organized now because they control social media. | ||
Twitter just banned the Oath Keepers and they allowed this Black Lives Matter woman who said violence is the only way to stay up. | ||
This huge screed about how they have to get violent. | ||
And that's allowed to stay. | ||
And it's been up for days. | ||
And you have Antifa actively organizing on the platform and the Oath Keepers? | ||
Gone. | ||
I wish I saw what literally was the thing that banned them. | ||
Is that public knowledge? | ||
Let me see if I can pull it up. | ||
That's another problem with banning someone, is you lose access to what it was that got them banned, and then how do you... That's a good point, because then you're like, how extreme are they actually? | ||
Because I know that people like to call anybody right of Mao, you know, far right, or whatever. | ||
Here, check this out. | ||
From Talking Points Memo. | ||
With itchy trigger fingers, some right-wingers predict the next civil war has finally arrived, and they say, quote, I don't think they're anti-government. | ||
First shot has been fired, brother," said Stuart Rhodes, founder of the armed anti-government | ||
group Oath Keepers. | ||
I don't think they're anti-government. | ||
I think they're constitutionalists. | ||
He says, quote, Civil War is here, right now. | ||
We'll give Trump one last chance to declare this a Marxist insurrection and suppress it | ||
as his duty demands. | ||
If he fails to do his duty, we will do ours. | ||
Hmm. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I would contest to that being constitutionalist is being anti-government because the entire point of the Constitution was to constrain not the people, the government. | ||
What that guy typed is legal, but Twitter's terms isn't about what's ever legal in the US. | ||
That's one thing about Mines is it's like, what's legal can do on the platform. | ||
So that would be allowed on Mines, but on Twitter, it's, I don't know what their terms are probably different. | ||
And you mentioned, we talked about this the other day, the lady saying violence is the only way or whatever. | ||
And you said that would also be allowed. | ||
It's not imminent violence. | ||
It's not saying, do this violent thing on this day at this time, because then you're calling for imminent violence. | ||
That is illegal. | ||
So that would come off Mines. | ||
But just saying let's get dirty. Let's go kit. Let's kill them. I mean it's crazy to say that but it's legal | ||
Yeah, Wow Let's kill this person. What if what do you said like I'm | ||
so angry everyone burn it all down burn it all Yeah, it's too vague. It's legal. That's vague. Yeah, that's | ||
saying burn it all because you're not saying burn it all down at 2 p.m | ||
On Tuesday is illegal What do you mean? It's imminent becomes an imminent threat. | ||
Oh If you say go do this, right? | ||
All right, if you said everyone go out burn it down because it because there was a guy who actually said that right | ||
like during Ferguson, yeah, I think he was like burn it all down just | ||
something like that So this is the this is the this is the big issue man. It's | ||
If you don't have access to technology, how can you actually win? | ||
So you think if someone attempts a violent uprising that the tech companies would be in cahoots with, like, the government and shut them out? | ||
Like, cut off their ISPs, cut out their communication tactics? | ||
It's hard to say. | ||
What's the allegiance of these corporations, right? | ||
No, that's really freaky. | ||
They're very ideological. | ||
They're corporate. | ||
It's just their allegiance is to their business plan. | ||
Oh, they're very left-wing. | ||
Maybe, but we've seen them overtly, like, I think they're willing to sacrifice business in exchange for ideological gains. | ||
Some of them. | ||
Twitter especially. | ||
Some people have argued, why is it that they allow Antifa to stay on the platform? | ||
There's actually a really, really good answer. | ||
You know why? | ||
So the cops know what their plans are. | ||
Good point. | ||
Otherwise they'll be in the shadows. | ||
They're not concerned about Stuart Rhodes, Oh wow, maybe yeah. | ||
thing whatever so there's so Twitter's just like get rid of them and then you have all these antifa | ||
accounts saying here we're gonna go do this this thing at this place and then you probably have | ||
the cops saying please don't ban them they're giving us their intel oh wow maybe yeah yep it's | ||
impossible to know that's crazy but so so the main the main point though uh is would Twitter | ||
side with the far left in the event of some kind of civil war and it's like | ||
The answer is yes. | ||
Flip of a coin, Matt. | ||
Who runs Twitter? | ||
We don't even know. | ||
It's overtly yes. | ||
Stockholders. | ||
Here's my prediction, because I've had this conversation with people and I'm like, listen. | ||
Let's say that right now, Twitter and Facebook have both said, if Donald Trump tries to declare victory in the election, they'll remove his posts. | ||
This is after the votes come in? | ||
Yeah. | ||
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If on November 4th, it is a Trump landslide, with no possible way for Biden to win, and Trump says, we did it, I won, there's no way the mail-in votes will get it, they said, if Trump tries to declare victory early, we will remove those posts. | ||
Twitter and Facebook said that. | ||
Just Trump, not Biden! | ||
Just Trump. | ||
Do you think they were insinuating that anyone that does it would be removed? | ||
But that's a dumb question because they didn't. | ||
They just said Trump. | ||
Right. | ||
So here's what happens. | ||
November 4th. | ||
Landslide Trump. | ||
400 electoral votes. | ||
No way Biden can win. | ||
Trump comes out and he has a press conference and says, even if the mail-in votes come in, no one expects, you know, the experts are saying, and you'll get like a bunch of conservative outlets saying, there's no way you could possibly flip these to Biden even with mail-in votes based on, you know, traditional voter, like, turnout and stuff like this. | ||
Then Biden refuses to concede like Hillary Clinton asked. | ||
Hillary Clinton straight up said Biden should not concede. | ||
So he goes, I am not going to concede because we're going to count these votes to the very end. | ||
Trump says, there's no way you can win. | ||
I'm the victor. | ||
A week goes by and all of a sudden, huh, record voter turnout. | ||
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Who'd have thought? | |
And they found a bunch of ballots just stacked in the back of a post office. | ||
Well, convenient for them. | ||
And then Biden squeaks by with just enough electoral votes for a narrow, very narrow victory. | ||
And then Biden comes out and says, you see, we've won. | ||
And then Trump says, this is not possible. | ||
And then you have two factions declaring victory. | ||
Trump then says, we're going to sue. | ||
We're going to sue. | ||
They say, well, we're going to sue you back. | ||
No one knows what happens. | ||
And then you end up with a circumstance where you now have Trump declaring himself victor, Biden declaring himself victor. | ||
What do you think happens in that scenario? | ||
That would be like an instance of a potential civil war when you have two leaders that are at it. | ||
Nope. | ||
What would you think would happen? | ||
Nope, nope, nope. | ||
New York Times, Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, Time Magazine, Newsweek. | ||
Oh, they would just start printing, Biden's the victor. | ||
Biden's the victor. | ||
Done. | ||
And then just try and, just move, if you tell someone a lie enough times, they start to believe it. | ||
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It's true. | |
And then what happens when Trump, when, I'll put it this way. | ||
What would happen if Trump does win, and it's, and because they won't give us the results right away, Trump wins, you know, 400 whatever electoral votes. | ||
Then Trump says, I won, there's no way they can win. | ||
And then all of a sudden, all the media companies just announce Biden won. | ||
That would be like, not treason. | ||
I mean, I don't want to use that word improperly. | ||
What if someone from the Democratic campaign, or like, I was going to say Podesta, who was Clinton's campaign manager, they go and they say, here's the proof, here's the documents, we won. | ||
And then the New York Times, all these mainstream outlets say, you know, election commission reports that we've reviewed show that Joe Biden is in fact the winner, even though the official election results reported to the federal government would show Trump the winner. | ||
In fact, Joe Biden won, right? | ||
So now you've got the media telling everyone, no, no, look, we went over the numbers. | ||
It's true. | ||
Joe Biden won. | ||
And Trump starts saying, I won. | ||
Then Twitter bans Trump. | ||
Then you've got a bunch of people actually within the government, right? | ||
Let's say a bunch of Secret Service people and a bunch of Feds know for a fact it's certified a Trump victory, but the media is reporting otherwise. | ||
So they go with Trump and say, don't worry, Mr. President, we're going to get a hold of things. | ||
And they start rushing to the White House or whatever. | ||
And then all of a sudden, a bunch of National Guardsmen have their phones go vroom vroom vroom and they all see | ||
this. | ||
Donald Trump is trying to stage a coup. | ||
New York Times, Washington Post, Trump is trying to steal the White House. | ||
What will they believe? | ||
And their commanding officer is sitting there saying, I don't know. | ||
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Who won? | |
That's drastically confusing. | ||
Trump is still president, right? | ||
Until the 4th, no matter what. | ||
Until January something. | ||
Until January 20th. | ||
So if there's a contention, he's still president until the 20th. | ||
So that's why I think that scenario is... And if Twitter banned him, he would go after Twitter in those months. | ||
What could he do? | ||
Make them reveal their code or something. | ||
How? | ||
He can't do that. | ||
I don't know what he would do, but I think he would go try and arrest... | ||
To be honest, I don't know. | ||
I'm not saying that scenario will happen. | ||
I'm trying to make a point about what happens... The confusion. | ||
Yeah, if there comes a point where Joe Biden and Donald Trump are both standing there and they both point to the Secret Service and they go, arrest that man! | ||
Hopefully the Secret Service won't do anything. | ||
The Secret Service are gonna look at their phone and they're gonna see all the mainstream media saying Joe Biden won. | ||
Yeah, but they're supposed to be Trump's bodyguard, or the president's bodyguard. | ||
What I mean to say is, the media is on the side of the left, and so is social media. | ||
And if Trump can't communicate, and Trump supporters can't communicate, then regular people are going to see Trump as the bad guy because the media will say so. | ||
That's probably kind of what's happening already, I think. | ||
Exactly, exactly. | ||
So, the vote's coming in and it's going to be confusing. | ||
There's going to be mail-in votes, right? | ||
It's decided we're doing mail-in votes. | ||
In many states, not every state. | ||
So it's going to be, give it two weeks after the 4th before you start deciding who won, because they're going to have to count all the stuff. | ||
It's going to take weeks. | ||
I've got to tell you, man, I'm really excited for November 4th till January 19th. | ||
That's going to be awesome. | ||
You know why? | ||
Because it's just... No, no, no, look. | ||
It's a rainfall, what are you talking about? | ||
There's going to be a lot of bad things. | ||
A windfall. | ||
There's going to be a lot of bad things. | ||
But if Trump loses, I'm actually really looking forward to that. | ||
You know why? | ||
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Why? | |
Could you imagine what that guy's going to do when he knows it's like... Oh yeah. | ||
Go on Rogan first. | ||
Immediately. | ||
Which he should do anyway. | ||
I lost. | ||
It's fine. | ||
I'm telling everything. | ||
Here's a book of all the pardons. | ||
That'd be awesome. | ||
Everyone! | ||
What if he pardoned everybody? | ||
Literally everyone. | ||
He could do that anyway. | ||
Win or lose. | ||
He could just go on a pardon spree. | ||
Well, I think he should pardon a lot of people. | ||
That'd be great. | ||
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That'd be great optics for him and for his family. | |
Whether he wins or loses, even if he doesn't know, it's going to be like January 19th and he's going to be like, well, I guess Nancy Pelosi is president. | ||
No one has any idea who won the election. | ||
I'm just going to pardon everybody. | ||
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Just goes forward and he's like... Executive order! | |
Just goes nuts. | ||
So there's actually an article that came out today where they were panicking about it. | ||
And it was like, it was like, what is it called? | ||
Like the 78 days of destruction or something? | ||
It was like, yeah, the day, the day after the election until the 20th, Trump is going to unleash fury. | ||
And it was a picture of Trump, like looking all like grim and there's like fire behind him. | ||
And then, and then like America is floating above the fire. | ||
Oh, they're crazy. | ||
I don't know about all that. | ||
But Trump will probably order a withdrawal of all the troops, and it'll jam up the courts. | ||
They'll go to the courts, and they'll try and block him, and he does a bunch of things. | ||
But I think he's gonna... Man, I want to believe. | ||
Could you imagine if he was like, Flint water crisis? | ||
Allocate federal resources, solve that problem. | ||
Snowden, Assange, pardoned. | ||
Soldiers in the Middle East, withdraw everybody. | ||
Legalize marijuana. | ||
Executive order. | ||
Release the offenders. | ||
Well, he can't legalize it, but he can put an executive order ordering them to... Taking it off Schedule 1? | ||
Not to enforce. | ||
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Oh, great. | |
Yeah, Congress would have to do the scheduling, I think. | ||
But he can say, no longer enforce marijuana laws, de facto legalization. | ||
But then he could also say, non-violent offenders, free to go, pardon all. | ||
So anything he was going to do in his second term, he'll do before. | ||
Hopefully we don't have to force him to do it in a few months and give him some time, because I think he's going to figure out new stuff to do as time goes on. | ||
Yeah, of course. | ||
Who knows what's going to happen? | ||
I think there's always a lot of developments. | ||
And the interesting thing right now is that although they keep saying Joe Biden is favored to win, The polls are in his favor. | ||
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Sure, sure. | |
Nate Silver tweeted that the only safe bet for Biden is if he wins five points more than Trump on the national popular vote. | ||
Then he's safe. | ||
What does that mean exactly? | ||
So if Joe Biden gets 45 and Trump gets 40. | ||
Okay, and that's percent of the national vote? | ||
Or if Joe Biden gets 49 and Trump gets, you know, 44. | ||
But if Joe Biden gets 47 and Trump gets 46, or what was the percentages last time? | ||
It was like the 40, it was like 42 or something. | ||
Yeah, I would say 42, 45 percent. | ||
Yeah, so like Trump got 40. | ||
If it's within two points, Trump has a 78 percent chance of winning. | ||
What's that? | ||
Because the Electoral College favors him. | ||
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Oh, cool. | |
Rural states. | ||
Yeah, they jam too many people up in California, you know? | ||
Oh, weird. | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
So when you look at the Electoral College, I don't think Joe Biden's going to get a five-point lead on Trump. | ||
I don't know much about how it's built, how that system works, unfortunately. | ||
Well, so the general idea is that the national popular vote doesn't matter because California and New York are so populous. | ||
Of course the Democrats will win the national popular vote. | ||
OK. | ||
But when you factor in the electoral college, because the president has chosen based on states, then Trump is favored, because more states are willing to support him. | ||
So it's hard to know, man. | ||
There's been a lot of changes in the polls. | ||
But if I look at the polls now, I look at Joe Biden's character. | ||
There's a lot of reasons to believe that Joe Biden's absolutely going to lose. | ||
I know. | ||
But there's reason to believe he's going to win? | ||
Well, it wouldn't be a Biden victory. | ||
It would be a Trump loss. | ||
Yeah, right, right, right, right, right. | ||
The media is smearing Trump. | ||
They're not pushing Biden at all because there's nothing positive, barely anything positive about that guy to show. | ||
He talks and makes mistakes with his words, which is horrible. | ||
Hilarious. | ||
It's sad. | ||
Did you see the guy from the Biden campaign was asked by Brett Baier, does Biden use a teleprompter? | ||
And the dude just was like, that's a Trump talking point. | ||
I am not gonna allow Trump to filter questions through Fox News. | ||
And Brett was like, so you can't answer yes or no? | ||
Does he use a teleprompter? | ||
Of course Biden uses a teleprompter. | ||
Here's what people don't get about Biden. | ||
Let me clarify some things for you. | ||
People say he's a gaffe machine, right? | ||
Oh, yeah, he always has been. | ||
He is a gaffe machine, but what people don't realize about a lot of his gaffes is that the prompter stopped moving. | ||
It's that simple. | ||
And he has no... And so there was one point where he said his wife... Improbability. | ||
What did he say about, like, he repeated her name? | ||
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Yeah, like, um... My wife, wife, my wife, my wife. | |
Yeah, yeah. | ||
So something was wrong with his teleprompter for sure. | ||
Exactly. | ||
It was stuttering or something. | ||
No, it stopped. | ||
Yeah. | ||
And it was stopped on his... Right, right. | ||
He said something like, this is Jill, my wife, my wife, my wife, my wife. | ||
And people were like, what's he doing? | ||
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Oh my gosh. | |
Because the prompter stopped. | ||
Dude, that guy was a plagiarist. | ||
My wife, my wife. | ||
In the 90s, he plagiarized and got made fun of. | ||
He plagiarized his speech last week or whatever. | ||
I'm that Canadian guy. | ||
This is insanity. | ||
Yeah, Joe Biden, man. | ||
Just give it. | ||
I mean, no, vote. | ||
That's the way it works. | ||
You know, just give it to somebody. | ||
But let's just kind of work on other technologies together. | ||
Yeah, we could focus on other stuff. | ||
Here's one of my bigger concerns about everything. | ||
So the Democrats blocked the COVID relief package. | ||
How's that work? | ||
So, they needed 60 votes in the Senate to get it passed, and it's not. | ||
It's like 52 Republicans or whatever, so it was partisan lines. | ||
And the Democrats, in their bill, they wanted to ban voter ID. | ||
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Why? | |
Yeah, so why? | ||
That's like, make elections less secure. | ||
Do people not have IDs? | ||
Is that a common thing? | ||
No. | ||
Are there citizens... I mean, mine's expired, I'm in the process of getting a new one. | ||
Some people don't have IDs. | ||
But no, I still have an ID. | ||
I have my passport. | ||
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Right. | |
You kind of got to have an ID. | ||
Yeah, exactly. | ||
You have to, to be a functioning person. | ||
So I feel like what we're seeing with this with blocking this bill, the Democrats wanted to change a bunch of election rules. | ||
They wanted to change voter signature verification rules to give people a chance to correct them, which could draw out the election. | ||
The Republicans said no. | ||
The Republicans offered up COVID relief. | ||
The Democrats said no. | ||
And it's just purely tribal lines, purely tribal. | ||
This two party system has gone too far. | ||
It's going to collapse because it's not about do we need COVID relief? | ||
No, it's don't let the Republicans win. | ||
That's craziness. | ||
And they want to tag things into it, like a voter registration law to a COVID relief package? | ||
Yeah, isn't that weird? | ||
Well, to be fair, the Republicans put in, like, FBI building and, like, new Abrams missiles or whatever. | ||
Has that been legal since the beginning of the country? | ||
I think so. | ||
It's just, like, what do you do? | ||
You can't add something else to a bill, but how do you determine what is, like... You could argue it's... How do you define the terms, you know what I mean? | ||
I don't know. | ||
I don't know. | ||
Good point. | ||
Like, is it in the same genre of what you're voting on? | ||
Is it related to COVID relief? | ||
If not, then no, it can't be part of this package. | ||
Well, they can argue, well, as part of COVID relief, we need a strong federal apparatus to enforce the rules around COVID. | ||
So they talk. | ||
It's a big talking game about talking. | ||
It's a debate. | ||
Yeah. Convince them of nonsense. I'll tell you what, but I'll tell you what, | ||
if people in the government are like, we're going to provide COVID relief and build tanks, | ||
I'd be like, yeah, what else is new? Give me the COVID relief. If the Democrats are like, | ||
we're going to give you COVID relief three times higher than Republicans and weaken all of our | ||
election processes, I'd be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What are they called? | ||
Earmarks? | ||
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Yes. | |
Something like that. | ||
Where they stick random stuff into bills? | ||
It's called pork. | ||
It's so weird. | ||
Random stuff. | ||
And I want a boat. | ||
I'll sponsor this, but I get a boat. | ||
We get a congressional boat. | ||
These 90-page bills that I don't even think they hire lawyers to write for them, and then they don't even have to read it before they vote on it. | ||
Let's jump to this next story real quick, because this kind of falls in line with some of what I was saying. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
Check this out. | ||
New York high school student arrested for attending in-person classes on remote learning day. | ||
What? | ||
School district says Maverick Stowe displayed irresponsible and selfish behavior with today's latest publicity stunt. | ||
Well, I learned his name, I guess. | ||
Maverick Stowe. | ||
It's a great name, dude. | ||
Cool name, yeah. | ||
It's the first thing I thought. | ||
That's a publicity stunt. | ||
He's protesting the coronavirus regulations in place at his school, at William Floyd High, in Massick, New York. | ||
The teen was being held at the 7th Precinct in Shirley, New York on Thursday morning, his mother, Nora Stowe, told Fox News. | ||
Okay, listen. | ||
That's the gist of the story. | ||
They're doing remote learning, and he's rejecting this, so they arrested him. | ||
That's insane. | ||
I mean, like, we're getting to the point where the whole system has gone insane, in my opinion, right? | ||
The bigger issue I have, and the reason I bring this up is, I don't understand what we're supposed to be doing. | ||
We're not going to school, we're going to school. | ||
What's the Democrats' position again? | ||
Because I don't understand. | ||
Are they into school choice? | ||
No. | ||
I have no idea. | ||
Does Biden even have a position on this stuff? | ||
I don't know. | ||
Trump is school choice. | ||
Yes. | ||
So wait, wait, wait. | ||
They want us to keep paying for these schools even though you'll be arrested if you go there. | ||
Yes. | ||
Are you tracking? | ||
Yeah, I'm not tracking either. | ||
But they don't want your parents to be able to watch you get taught even though they're paying for it. | ||
Exactly, that too. | ||
And also they do want you to attend in Zoom meetings for your college classes and they will charge you full tuition for the semester. | ||
It's a wonderful situation. | ||
You know what, man? | ||
I was sitting here and my main segment today was like, they're cheating. | ||
It's so obvious they're cheating. | ||
So Will Chamberlain, he was supposed to be here the other day, but he couldn't make it. | ||
He has a tweet, it's really good. | ||
He said basically, mail-in voting is low integrity. | ||
He said in-person voting is high integrity. | ||
Absentee voting is high integrity because you request it and there's a process. | ||
Universal mail-in voting is low integrity, it just goes out to everybody. | ||
If you want low integrity voting, I can only assume it's because you intend to cheat. | ||
And I'm like, you've got Dr. Birx, you've got Dr. Fauci saying it's safe to vote in person. | ||
Straight up, they said it. | ||
That's where it should end. | ||
But it doesn't. | ||
We're still locked down. | ||
You can't go to the restaurants. | ||
There's 25 capacity waiting rooms. | ||
And we have to have universal mail-in voting. | ||
And I'm like, you guys are cheating, aren't you? | ||
Then Twitter and Facebook come out and they're like, if Trump declares victory, we will ban him. | ||
We'll delete the posts. | ||
So if Trump literally wins, it's everything being stacked up. | ||
Trump needs to diffuse out of Twitter. | ||
He needs to... what's the word when you... Divest. | ||
Yeah, he needs to divest into multiple platforms. | ||
Because he needs to be able to speak to the public. | ||
And Twitter and Facebook are going to ban him. | ||
Yeah, he should not have to go through a corporation. | ||
He should be on Mines. | ||
He's our... he should definitely be on Mines. | ||
Here's why I bring this up. | ||
It's kind of like, look, there's only so much to be said about the New York high school student thing, but it brings up a really good point about the absurdities of the Democrats. | ||
Democrats. | ||
Another one! | ||
Spin the UFO! | ||
The Democrats are pushing this absurd policy so it's like, we're going to shut down the schools. | ||
But you have to go online and use remote learning, and you have to pay, even though you're not, like... How is it that, you know, we agree when we move somewhere. | ||
It's like, I'm gonna move to this neighborhood. | ||
Okay, here's the property taxes, here's what the city provides and everything. | ||
Okay, I get it. | ||
Well, now the schools are shut down. | ||
OK, give me that money back. | ||
Why do I just have to give you that money? | ||
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Right. | |
You're not using their bathrooms. | ||
You're not dirtying up their closets. | ||
You should be at least like a third of the price or half the price. | ||
Give the money back. | ||
Well, Trump is for school choice. | ||
But it seems like it really does feel to me. | ||
Everything we're hearing from the media... I shouldn't say everything, but a good portion of it's just all insane lies. | ||
Like, you know, Donald Trump calling troops losers and suckers, and then calling the generals, you know... We call them a stupid word. | ||
And I'm just like, I don't believe any of this. | ||
It really does feel like they will do anything to just... It's chaos. | ||
It's chaos versus order. | ||
And it's like the extreme ends of it. | ||
So this is, I've decided that 2020 is the year of audacity. | ||
They don't have a mask anymore. | ||
They've taken it off. | ||
They don't care. | ||
And I don't know if it's because of the pandemic or if we've just been building up to it. | ||
They stopped caring. | ||
They don't care that we know it. | ||
They're going to cheat. | ||
They're doing all this stuff. | ||
And, uh, yeah, it doesn't bother them at all. | ||
They're brazen. | ||
Yeah, because that's kind of the point. | ||
I'm just exhausted by all this stuff. | ||
Arresting kids. | ||
Dude, well, it makes me think of Australia. | ||
Have you seen the videos of people not wearing a mask on a train? | ||
The cops arrest them. | ||
And there, because it's under British Commonwealth law, it's legal, apparently, to arrest people for not wearing a mask on a train or whatever. | ||
They arrested that pregnant woman. | ||
Yeah. | ||
For posting about to go do a protest. | ||
Because there's not a lot of protest under British Commonwealth law. | ||
Well, no, that's because of the COVID lockdown. | ||
Right, right. | ||
It's their law against the COVID thing. | ||
So like, I don't want that kind of tyranny in the United States. | ||
I don't like people getting arrested for this mask. | ||
Like, give it up. | ||
We already have a study that says 94% of COVID cases were at least 2.6 other compounding comorbidities. | ||
94% of the registered deaths had at least 2.6 other comorbidities involved with the COVID in the system. | ||
94% of the deaths. | ||
So it's like 180,000 deaths were just COVID. | ||
No, it was 9,000. | ||
4% of that, right? | ||
6% of that? | ||
They were all caused by COVID, but the bulk of people were vulnerable people, which is the real point that's more important. | ||
A lot of people are confusing it, saying they didn't actually have COVID. | ||
That's not true. | ||
But it's a point that Ben Shapiro made a long time ago. | ||
A long time ago. | ||
Protect the vulnerable, get everyone back to work. | ||
And we should be doing that anyway. | ||
That should be always part of our... | ||
Look, man, I'm telling you, I was having a conversation with some very stoic, high-profile people that I know. | ||
It's incredible what's happening this year. | ||
And I said, man, I hate to do it, but I gotta get conspiratorial. | ||
Like, last year, Moody's Analytics said if the economy remains stable and there's average voter turnout, Trump wins. | ||
Like, 400 electoral votes. | ||
It's gonna be huge. | ||
Chaos. | ||
Then what happens? | ||
We get COVID, and the Democrats immediately crush their own economies. | ||
This Hillary Clinton scandal in 2016 against Bernie Sanders with the WikiLeaks drop, where it showed that they were specifically trying to get him to not win. | ||
That is the beginning of this, I think, where it just got blown open. | ||
And the media never really followed up, barely followed up on it. | ||
They don't want to talk about it. | ||
The Biden-Tara Reid allegations are, like, hideous. | ||
Where did that go? | ||
And it was corroborated because her mom called in, like, in the 90s, like, this happened to my daughter. | ||
They're like, interesting. | ||
Yeah, it's absolutely, I don't know how deep we can even go on that on YouTube, but I mean, it's just, this is like a rape scandal, basically. | ||
Yeah, totally, totally. | ||
I mean, look, the challenge is there are people who have accused Trump as well. | ||
That's a good point. | ||
Trump is not a saint. | ||
He's an animal. | ||
He's a beast. | ||
But it's funny, because I made this point earlier when I said something like, where are the smears against Joe Biden? | ||
And then I had people criticizing me being like, dude, you rag on Joe Biden all the time. | ||
And I'm like, I know I do. | ||
Like, where's the New York Times? | ||
you know, highlighting these things. Yes, sometimes there's negative press for Biden. | ||
And the worst we see is like Joe Biden's basement strategy is working. | ||
Like, okay, it's not really a criticism of his basement strategy, but sure. | ||
Stay alive Joe Biden. | ||
Yeah, stay alive Joe Biden. | ||
Oh, I love that was amazing. | ||
Why do they want, not want Trump to win? | ||
Oh, Trump's a bone in the Chinese chabon. | ||
Is it just because they want a warmonger in office? | ||
Oh, definitely. | ||
That's what it comes down to is they need a military machine to keep moving or something. | ||
Donald Trump moved to bring our troops back from Afghanistan and Germany a month or so ago. | ||
And now look at what's happening with all the smears. | ||
Trump hates the troops. | ||
You know, Trump knew about COVID. | ||
They have unleashed the Kraken on Trump of negative press. | ||
And it always coincides with Trump being like, war is bad, the American people don't want war, and they're like, end him. | ||
I remember, I think I was talking about this with Michael Malice, when a few years ago Trump fired the missiles at Syria, and then we had pundits saying, is this Trump's true presidential moment? | ||
It's funny, what was that article where Trump was saying that America's addicted to war or something? | ||
So I was reading the other day something from Eli Lake and he was talking about how Trump was pointing out that military generals hate him because they are in fact addicted to war. | ||
I think those were his exact words. | ||
And he said, you know, the soldiers love me, the troops love me. | ||
And I was like, that makes perfect sense to me. | ||
He's the one who sent the generals out of the room so that he could talk to the troops. | ||
That makes sense that they would love him. | ||
According to the polls, they're voting for Biden. | ||
I don't believe any of this, man. | ||
What's happening? | ||
This is ridiculous. | ||
I think the polls are nonsense. | ||
I think they're trying to create the illusion that Biden's going to win because they're cheating, and they need people to expect that Trump—like, think about it this way. | ||
What if everyone in this country really did plan to vote for Trump? | ||
Let's say 90% did. | ||
How many of them talk to each other to know it's at 90%? | ||
Probably not that many. | ||
Not that many. | ||
So what happens is you've got a handful of people and all their friends say they're voting for Trump, then they turn on the TV and it says Biden's got 12 points up and they're like, wow, how do you really know if you just trust the media? | ||
They just tell you what the vote's going to be before they vote? | ||
Like, that's so ridiculous. | ||
There have been instances where TV stations have accidentally run election results before the election. | ||
But but but the the excuse is that they have demo versions ready So basically what they do is they'll create the graphic and they can type in the vote Totals and they put in fake totals as like an example geez and then they've accidentally published it people are like what? | ||
Dude, I've seen testimony of people that built technology that'll flip votes. | ||
Easy, yep. | ||
It's a normal thing. | ||
There was a kid at Defcon, the hacker convention, who it took him like 10 minutes to hack the voter machine and flip all the votes. | ||
Yeah, when Trump won in 2016, it gave me hope for democracy. | ||
Like, it's real. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Oh, definitely. | ||
But maybe that's the real conspiracy. | ||
No, but I agree. | ||
I was like, Trump winning made me believe that it was possible to actually, that we had to win an actual democratic institution. | ||
It's a weird way to realize that. | ||
Yeah, this guy can win. | ||
Wow, the elections must be real. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Dude, I didn't think he was going to win because I did not have faith in the election. | ||
Me neither. | ||
I wonder, here's the crazy conspiracy. | ||
I was actually predicting record low voter turnout very early on. | ||
I was thinking, like, seeing these protests and seeing everything, people were demoralized. | ||
Why would anyone want to go and vote, especially after, like, all the Occupy stuff? | ||
Nobody felt like they were being represented. | ||
And then all of a sudden, you get a Trump phenomenon. | ||
And this is not something I made up, although I certainly think there are pieces you can add to it, and I certainly have. | ||
So I remember seeing people protesting outside of Trump's rally in Fort Lauderdale, saying that Trump and Hillary were friends, and that it's a trick, and Trump is being propped up by the establishment as the fake underdog. | ||
And so they really believe that Trump isn't actually for the people. | ||
The theory is essentially they want Trump to win, and they're propping him up to make it seem like the people chose him against all odds. | ||
So it restores people's faith in the electoral system, because even if you don't like Trump, you recognize anybody really can win, and you better go vote, right? | ||
There was a fear that voter turnout was getting so low that people were losing confidence in the system itself. | ||
And that's really dangerous for the country. | ||
Right. | ||
Now think about where we're at now. | ||
Trump supporters are like, wow, I can't believe it. | ||
It's true. | ||
You have to vote. | ||
We won. | ||
And the anti-Trump people are like, oh my God, he really won. | ||
We better go vote. | ||
There you go. | ||
So now everybody, so now they're expecting like a historic voter turnout. | ||
Well, another great thing that you can pin on Trump's lapel. | ||
That's right. | ||
Restoring faith in democracy. | ||
My biggest fear is the school lockdown stuff and it's the intersectionalism. | ||
It's the cult of identitarianism. | ||
I keep thinking of Seattle. | ||
My mind keeps thinking of upper left. | ||
I'm visualizing a map and I just feel this tension in this northwest. | ||
The riots and the fires. | ||
It's wild up there. | ||
It's bothering me. | ||
Geez, yeah. | ||
You know what's funny is that if you took the political compass and you stretched it out so it was the shape of the United States of America, what would the top left quadrant be? | ||
Yeah, you're right! | ||
That would be the Pacific Northwest. | ||
The authoritarian communists. | ||
Authoritarian left, yep. | ||
Art imitates life and what and what's what's up in Maine and not it doesn't really make sense | ||
There's there's no Nazis in Maine But in Maine you can walk walk in there by a gun apparently | ||
like it's super chill and it's beautiful up there. Yeah Wait, actually, they're there. No wait. Oh my oh my what so | ||
I was actually there was a meme talking about it was a there was white nationalists talking about Maine | ||
and they were they were making a very racist point about how | ||
Maine is run by Democrats, but they don't have gun control and | ||
And so they're making, you know, because the demographics, so it actually does fit the political compass in a sense. | ||
I know. | ||
So I want to live in Florida. | ||
And California is the surfer hippie dudes, like, yo, dude, do your thing. | ||
But they're left-wing. | ||
Florida. | ||
Florida's where it's at. | ||
Florida's where it's at. | ||
Except for the alligators, the 12-foot alligators that roam around. | ||
They're just chilling. | ||
There's some crazy alligator videos on YouTube. | ||
Maybe. | ||
Maybe. | ||
Is Florida some anarcho-capitalist place? | ||
Florida, man. | ||
Have you heard of Florida, man? | ||
But it is funny that the upper left quadrant of this country is the authoritarian communist quadrant. | ||
I know, and it was so soothing and cool before with all the rain. | ||
I know, it was so neat. | ||
Well, you know what it is, too? | ||
I think this is important. | ||
People are depressed in Seattle because of the cloud. | ||
It's always cloudy. | ||
That's why I never moved there. | ||
So there, I lived near, I think it's called the 26th Street Bridge, I'm not entirely sure, it's been a really long time. | ||
But I lived in Fremont, and there's this bridge out of Seattle, and whenever I, when you walk across it, there's signs on it, and it says, feeling suicidal, call this number. | ||
Oh wow. | ||
Now when I lived there a long time ago, you could easily just like, whoop, jump right off. | ||
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Wow. | |
They've since put big... Yeah, where they curve in at the top. | ||
Right, you can't, so it's really hard to get over. | ||
They did that in my hometown. | ||
I was told that the depression is legit because it's always cloudy. | ||
Makes a lot of sense. | ||
And so what happens with these Pacific Northwest areas, why do you have so much rioting? | ||
Because people are just in a dark place all the time. | ||
And now they're in their houses, and they're told not to go out, and they can't go to work. | ||
It's even worse. | ||
They're sitting in the corner, and there's like mold growing around them, and they're like, they're sitting there. | ||
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It's horrible. | |
It's wet and moist. | ||
Yeah, it's just gross. | ||
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Not cool. | |
They're sitting on an old pizza box. | ||
It's still a beautiful city. | ||
I don't know. | ||
I've never been, actually. | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
So I mentioned Portland's got this really great hot sauce called Secret Aardvark. | ||
Ooh, what's in it? | ||
You had some, right? | ||
You tried it? | ||
Here? | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
The Secret Aardvark sauce. | ||
I know what it was called. | ||
Remember it had all those hot sauces and like, yeah, and then, yeah, yeah. | ||
Yeah, those are great. | ||
Portland. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
People keep sending us those. | ||
People keep sending us those. | ||
Send us more. | ||
No, no, no, no, no, don't send us hot sauce. | ||
No, we have enough. | ||
I love hot sauce. | ||
We have enough. | ||
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I mentioned it. | |
I was like, I call it the Antifa hot sauce and people are like, wow, it's from Portland. | ||
They go, oh, yeah. | ||
Makes sense, yeah. | ||
And I'm like, no, that's probably mean because I don't think the people who own the company are like, they're probably just business owners, you know what I mean, doing their normal thing. | ||
Support local business. | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
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How about we jump over to Super Chats? | |
You know, yeah, let's just read superchats. | ||
What do we got here? | ||
We'll pop out these superchats. | ||
We're chillin'. | ||
How you guys doing? | ||
Hey, how about you guys follow me on Twitter, Instagram, and Parler at Timcast. | ||
And you can smash that like button. | ||
You can also follow at Ian Crossland on, what, Twitter, Instagram? | ||
Yeah, all of the above. | ||
All of the above. | ||
And of course, at Sour Patch Lids. | ||
Sour Patch L-Y-D-S. | ||
But now we're gonna read your superchats to see what you have to say about our Crazy conversations. | ||
That's a really good point. | ||
I don't think humans desire freedom the only freedom that has been desired by all peoples in all places in all times | ||
is the freedom Of your tribe ethnicity or nation in regards to political | ||
or and individual freedom most people across history have not cared for it | ||
That's a really good point. I'm one of those anomalous individuals where I just want to be left alone by everybody | ||
Yeah, I just like if I had to make a choice. I'd be like I'm gonna. I'm gonna take his pointy stick | ||
I'm gonna keep walking that way you can all just leave me alone | ||
I'll find my own rabbits to eat, I'm gonna die of rabbit starvation. | ||
But how would you enforce that? | ||
The weird thing about freedom is that we have to enforce a state of freedom by creating a non-free system. | ||
So like, we impose ourselves with all these laws so that we have this semblance of freedom within it. | ||
Yeah, it's like we created these barriers around us, and then say, here's the things you can't do. | ||
And the denser the population, the less freedom you have. | ||
Yeah, in order to establish freedom. | ||
But it's not even, it's like... It's not to establish freedom. | ||
It's just... You have true freedom when you're in the middle of the woods. | ||
Like, go to Antarctica, you'll have freedom. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
Good point. | ||
Deep space, totally free. | ||
Listen, in what part of the world could you strip nude and not have to worry about any other human taking offense? | ||
The jungle. | ||
Sahara desert, you know what I mean? | ||
Rainforest. | ||
But you can't live there, that's the thing. | ||
True freedom is not habitable. | ||
Like you need like domestication. | ||
There's like, there's like a bubble of freedom, right? | ||
The further you live from a city, the bigger your personal freedom bubble gets. | ||
True. | ||
So one of the reasons I want to move out here is for one, to get away from the | ||
cities for a lot of reasons, mostly the escalating violence and the protests. | ||
But I want to play music. | ||
You can't play music in New York. | ||
You cannot. | ||
You're, you're, you're, you're stacked on top. | ||
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Not inside, yeah. | |
You need to rent a studio. | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
And so they create those spaces now where it's like really noisy inside and you have these little cubicle rooms to play in. | ||
So I was like, you move out of the city and your freedom bubble starts expanding. | ||
When you live in the city, your freedom bubble is literally just around your body. | ||
Dude, the smell, too. | ||
You're never free in the city because of that smell. | ||
The brake dust going in your lungs. | ||
No, but think about it. | ||
I could yell at the top of my lungs right now. | ||
We all could just scream and we're fine. | ||
Okay. | ||
But if you're in New York city, you can't do that. | ||
Not really. | ||
No, you can't do it. | ||
Yeah. | ||
So you, your freedom is curtailed, you know? | ||
So is it, is it weird that I like the book of Eli, the movie, because he's spends most of it walking across the desert by himself. | ||
I'm like, that's perfect. | ||
I like, I like that movie because he's like self-reliant and says, leave me alone. | ||
Yeah. | ||
He's doing his own thing. | ||
It reminds me of The Alchemist. | ||
You guys ever read that? | ||
No. | ||
Awesome book. | ||
Also travels across the desert. | ||
Very cool. | ||
Perfect. | ||
That's what I want to do. | ||
Let's read some more. | ||
Let's read some more Super Chats. | ||
Also smash that like button if you have not done that already. | ||
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Hit it! | |
Jane McGirr says, strange laws in 1838 removed 1976 Missouri Governor Boggs issued Executive Order 44 and it states, the Mormons must be treated as enemies and must be... Wow! | ||
He says, is this real? | ||
Exterminated or driven from the state if necessary? | ||
For the public peace. | ||
Wow, man, that's creepy, scary stuff. | ||
We got First Amendment, man, you can't do that. | ||
People don't realize that the Constitution is actually stronger today than when we first started the country. | ||
But now it's getting a lot weaker. | ||
Like the fact that they would say that in this country. | ||
Yeah, what, it was like a local law? | ||
Free speech was not a thing, man. | ||
Like, there was, like, we had obscenity laws. | ||
Look, George Carlin got arrested for the seven words you can't say on TV. | ||
Dude, men couldn't wear, couldn't go out without a shirt on until like 1915 or 17 or something. | ||
They had to vote to get that. | ||
Decency stuff, yeah. | ||
Yeah, you couldn't show the nipple. | ||
Wow, the Mormon extermination order. | ||
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What? | |
Holy moly. | ||
How is that possible in this country, you know? | ||
That's crazy. | ||
Yeah, the saying is legit, it's legit. | ||
Here we got another one. | ||
Simius the first says people will tolerate tyranny as long as it is from your own tribe | ||
Look at Zimbabwe the black people fought against the tyranny of the white government when they won Mugabe came to power | ||
Zimbabwe tolerated tyranny for decades because he was one of their own unfortunate, but true. That's creepy | ||
Nelson care Karayannis says Tim have you heard the podcast called it | ||
could happen here in It's pertaining to an American Civil War. | ||
There is a section in it about how rural people can live without internet and electricity and crush a city by shutting down trucking, water, food, etc. | ||
Yes, absolutely. | ||
People don't realize I was reading something about it. | ||
They said, I think something like 16 people could win a civil war against the United States. | ||
Oh wow. | ||
Because all they would need to do is pre-plan and coordinate interstate highway shutdowns for an extended period of time. | ||
Yep. | ||
So there's like... Trucker strikes. | ||
Yeah, absolutely. | ||
Yeah, it's creepy stuff, man. | ||
People don't realize how delicate the system is. | ||
It really is. | ||
Yep, so yeah, it's creepy stuff man. People don't realize how delicate the system is. | ||
It really is. | ||
Imagine you have this giant machine, like it's printing newspapers, right? It's huge. | ||
And you take one little like, you know, I don't know. | ||
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Paperclip? | |
A paperclip. | ||
And you chuck it in and it gets into a gear and... It gives me hope because the system is so easy to destroy, but it's so hard to get it right. | ||
And we get it right. | ||
Like on a daily basis, humans get it right. | ||
We drive down the street, it's 70 miles an hour past each other, within a few feet of thousands of times a day, and we get it right. | ||
We're built to get it right. | ||
I often think about this like when I see a squirrel and like the squirrel like climbs the top of a tree and it's like 50 feet up and it jumps like 15 feet to the next tree and then catches the branch and I'm like, do they ever fall? | ||
Cause I skateboard and I fall, you know, and I'm good at skateboarding. | ||
I've been skateboarding for, for man, like over 20 years and I still fall. | ||
I'm like, how does that squirrel just get it right every time? | ||
Well, the truth is they probably don't. | ||
You know, but then I think about driving, and I'm on the highway, and there's like a two-foot divider, and I'm going 70, and then the car's going 70, go right past each other. | ||
Yeah, when your life's on the line. | ||
And it's like, whatever, you know, I'm not worried. | ||
You get it right. | ||
It's amazing we don't crash more. | ||
I know, it's incredible. | ||
We're geniuses. | ||
We're genius machines. | ||
We're good at what we do. | ||
We're good tools, yeah. | ||
Let's see, Olamondorius says, I've basically got a form letter set up to copy and paste | ||
whenever someone tries to lie about the coronavirus response. | ||
And another for when someone says Trump said to drink bleach with reference links and everything. | ||
It's gone to that point. | ||
That's great. | ||
It's crazy. | ||
I remember when people started accusing Sarah Palin of saying, I can see Russia from my house. | ||
Oh, I remember that. | ||
Because Tina Fey made a joke. | ||
Oh, she never actually said it? | ||
No. | ||
Geez, the media. | ||
It was Saturday Night Live, wasn't it? | ||
The funniest thing is that Sarah Palin's point was actually a pretty good one. | ||
She said that part of her experience as the governor of Alaska could help the U.S. | ||
because she actually deals with relations with Russia. | ||
When Russia—there's the Bering Strait, there's a trade strait, and so you have a lot of vehicle traffic, and they have to coordinate with Russia when these ships and everything are going through. | ||
And she's like, so we work with them regularly. | ||
I mean, you can see Russia from Alaska standing at the westernmost point. | ||
Sarah, then Tina Fey on Saturday Night Live goes, I can see Russia from my house! | ||
And everyone laughed at her. | ||
And now they, it's like a joke. | ||
And I think about it and I'm like, and what if you could see Russia from your house? | ||
You remember when, I think it was, was it Alec Baldwin was doing Trump? | ||
Somebody was doing Trump on SNL a lot when he first got elected and then they stopped. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Everyone just stopped. | ||
They did kind of quit. | ||
No more Trump on SNL. | ||
Well, they brought him back though. | ||
No, they brought him back. | ||
Alec Baldwin started doing it. | ||
And it's the weirdest thing to me that Alec Baldwin's impression of Trump is probably the worst impression. | ||
Yeah, it's not good. | ||
Yeah, it's terrible. | ||
It's not a real impression. | ||
He looks nothing like Trump. | ||
He's just really famous. | ||
He does this weird thing where he, like, closes his eyes and, like, hangs his mouth open. | ||
That's so stupid. | ||
Unfortunately, Larry David was not a good Bernie Sanders either. | ||
Oh, he's better. | ||
But he looks just like him. | ||
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He's good. | |
No, that was a good... I don't like... I think he's good. | ||
He was just being Larry David. | ||
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That's true. | |
Kind of overly angry. | ||
That's true, that's true. | ||
That's true. | ||
They're just, like, kind of angry. | ||
The Trump impersonations, though, were just awful. | ||
I'm like, they're not actually impersonating Trump. | ||
They're just trying to... It's their idea of Trump. | ||
But Alec Baldwin not only didn't act like him, he didn't sound like him. | ||
They put him in a suit and said, you're Trump now. | ||
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And he's like, I am Trump. | |
I am playing Trump. | ||
I thought your impersonation of John Oliver yesterday was the best. | ||
I don't remember what I said. | ||
Remember The Orange Man? | ||
He's very bad. | ||
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The Orange Man is bad! | |
John Oliver. | ||
I should actually do some impersonations. | ||
I'm actually really good. | ||
You guys liked my Alex Jones earlier? | ||
Yeah, it's great. | ||
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I love him. | |
I don't know why, I just feel like I can... It's because you're two steps away from Alex Jones. | ||
It is. | ||
You have a studio around you, you know? | ||
The essence of what he experiences. | ||
Somebody mentioned he, like, shouted me out or something. | ||
Oh, how funny. | ||
I appreciate that. | ||
He'd be a hilarious guest. | ||
I can handle it. | ||
Dude, Alex is the man. | ||
I remember back in the... He's entertaining. | ||
Yeah, he really is. | ||
I mean, you know, I don't watch his stuff to comment, but I remember when the Epstein stuff came out, people, I think Joe Rogan may have said this, people were like, they owe this guy an apology. | ||
Alex Jones. | ||
He's been calling out for a long time. | ||
Yeah, but he's been calling out a lot of stuff. | ||
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I know. | |
Like when he talked about the interdimensional aliens. | ||
Oh my gosh, it's so weird. | ||
Entertainment first, news second. | ||
Yeah, exactly. | ||
That's a good rule of thumb for Alex. | ||
All right, let's read some more of these. | ||
Let's see what we got here. | ||
Let's see. | ||
Morgan Lippincott says, do you think an American version of the BBC or CBC would help in ending the craziness with the mainstream news media? | ||
The answer is no, because we already have PBS and NPR. | ||
Are those national? | ||
Are they literally national or are they privately owned? | ||
I think PBS is privately owned, isn't it? | ||
Made possible by donations from viewers like you. | ||
So maybe it's not the same. | ||
It's not, yeah. | ||
But NPR is funded- No. | ||
Yeah, National Public Radio? | ||
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Yeah. | |
I think it's funded by grants. | ||
We also have, like, Voice of America. | ||
Don't we have that, right? | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
Like, Voice of Europe or something? | ||
I don't know, whatever. | ||
But like a national- I don't- We don't have, like, the CBC. | ||
I don't- It would have to- Yeah. | ||
It would have to be done right, because the government's no better than a corrupt corporation if it's gone wrong. | ||
But it could be harder to influence. | ||
I don't know. | ||
You know, I will say, though, but I probably would like our own version of that. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yeah, just because I like the competition. | ||
You know? | ||
I love the idea of C-SPAN. | ||
That works really well. | ||
If we could have more like C-SPAN, I'd be happy. | ||
C-SPAN's fantastic. | ||
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Yeah. | |
There's no bias. | ||
Alright, let's see what we got here. | ||
Jack Daw says, I have white privilege. | ||
I start a business renting out my white privilege. | ||
Pay me and I will advocate on behalf of POC. | ||
Very cool. | ||
Go to court, banks, and buy property for my POC clients. | ||
Sit at home gaining wealth and land paid for by the labor of my POC. | ||
That's actually a really good point. | ||
If POC, I'm sorry, if white privilege is property, then you could be a whiteness firm and be like, right? | ||
You can rent out your body. | ||
I'll be the one who files your paperwork. | ||
I'll be the one who goes to court for you. | ||
It sounds like slavery. | ||
Stay away. | ||
That's great. | ||
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Yeah, I know. | |
And you sign away your power of attorney, and then I just represent you. | ||
So it's like the dude gets arrested, and you go to court, and they're like, it says here that the man who got arrested is a 5'8 Hispanic male, and there's like a 6'3 blonde-haired, blue-eyed white guy, and he goes, I have power of attorney, and I will be representing him as him, and I have a lawyer. | ||
I identify as this person. | ||
I identify as him. | ||
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Boom. | |
Done. | ||
Nailed it. | ||
He's working on a name tag and then he's like, I reserve my right to remain silent, your honor. | ||
That's right. | ||
And then the judge goes, you know, I had some assumptions about you, but I was wrong. | ||
There's something about you that's just different from what I expected. | ||
Case dismissed! | ||
So trustworthy. | ||
Yeah, so trustworthy. | ||
Little Bear says, Marine, veteran, and truck. | ||
I drove through most of those areas days ago. | ||
Sky was orange and red like out of a horror movie. | ||
Love y'all work and stay motivated. | ||
Yeah, it's crazy, right? | ||
So are the fires making it hotter and the hotness is making more fire. | ||
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I wonder. | |
Blocking out the sun, maybe, though? | ||
You'd think it'd be cooler if there was no sunlight. | ||
Unless it's just keeping the heat from escaping. | ||
People are going to have lung problems. | ||
Seriously. | ||
Weirdo. | ||
Michelle Therese says apparently 90% of arsonists had recorded mental health history, and very few can be rehabilitated. | ||
Very scary. | ||
Ian is a great fill-in guest. | ||
I vote we keep him. | ||
All right, there you go. | ||
Very good vote, yeah. | ||
Thank you so much. | ||
And by the way, I read the chat last night after the show. | ||
I re-watched the show and read the chat. | ||
You guys are hilarious. | ||
I love you so much. | ||
I had to expose myself. | ||
I love our chat, okay? | ||
They're wonderful. | ||
You guys are great. | ||
This is so fun. | ||
Let's see, Hasim Retna says, Video from Neda on Twitter of live radio from northeast of black Subaru from Texas driving an i205 throwing Molotovs out the window. | ||
Oh, man. | ||
Ham radio frequency 155.430, 155.110. | ||
Keep up the great work. | ||
Wow, man. | ||
I wouldn't be surprised because people, people, like, it's the Joker, man. | ||
They want to watch the world burn. | ||
I'm telling you, a copycat, if they see the article, they don't even know it's something they can do until they see someone else do it. | ||
Here's my chance to get away with it. | ||
Alright, let's see. | ||
John Hutto says, if voting by mail is secure, why do I have to be in person with ID to buy a gun? | ||
Can't they prove I'm me via the mail the same way they do voting? | ||
There you go! | ||
What's more important? | ||
Your right to vote? | ||
So, what's more dangerous? | ||
Someone getting a gun or losing your right to vote? | ||
Well, to find danger. | ||
What I mean is, if a civilization, if the people lose their right to vote. | ||
That's more existentially dangerous. | ||
Exactly. | ||
In the long term, for sure. | ||
Fascism, right? | ||
Oh, so there we go. | ||
So we need voter ID. | ||
We need to shore up the security for our votes and everything. | ||
True. | ||
And then get gunned by mail. | ||
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Yes! | |
Okay, perfect. | ||
Yeah, that's good compromise. | ||
Well, you can 3D print guns. | ||
That's a whole other can of worms. | ||
You know, one of my favorite things that people, like the conservatives, are saying right now is that if gun ownership is a right guaranteed by the Constitution, then it should be subsidized. | ||
That'd be cool. | ||
What if they gave everyone a gun for their 18th birthday? | ||
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That'd be so cool! | |
I don't think that would be a good idea. | ||
Or at least pay you back most of the taxes or whatever. | ||
If we had training programs, which we probably should, and kids knew how to shoot and all that stuff, I would have loved to experience something like that. | ||
The GMV? | ||
No, the DGV. | ||
Yeah, yeah. | ||
The Department of... No, it's not the DGV. | ||
Department of Gun Vehicles? | ||
Yeah, that doesn't make sense. | ||
Yeah, no, I want a gun vehicle. | ||
It would just be like the gun commission. | ||
Okay, that works too. | ||
Let's see. | ||
Ahmad Khan says, I am a Trump-supporting Muslim going to one of the most left-leaning college campuses in the U.S. | ||
So many Muslims just support Democrats when we have a lot of conservative values that Democrats trample. | ||
Love the show. | ||
Good luck. | ||
That's what I don't get. | ||
It feels like there are so many groups that are very conservative, but for some reason just vote for Democrats. | ||
So weird. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Hispanics and African Americans. | ||
I don't understand. | ||
Yeah. | ||
That's awesome. | ||
That's so cool. | ||
That's huge. | ||
One guy. | ||
guys, thank you for keeping us informed. Hopefully you'll replace CNN soon. That's the goal. | ||
And proud to say we're about 50% of the... So when it comes to TV ratings, my channels | ||
obliterate all of the primetime hosts. | ||
That's so cool. | ||
When it comes to CNN online, I get just over 50% of what their views are. | ||
That's huge. One guy. | ||
But they do have a bunch of other channels too. And they pump out crazy amounts of videos | ||
and YouTube props them up. | ||
Right. | ||
So I think in terms of influence, it's not just about me. | ||
It's like Crowder and Styx and these are like the go-to people I name and like Kyle Kalinske and then like even The Young Turks. | ||
Way more influential than a lot of these mainstream channels. | ||
CNN's like a network of how many people work at CNN? | ||
Over a lot. | ||
Hundreds, yeah. | ||
Yeah, but one guy can go on the internet and complain about stuff. | ||
Dude, what a world. | ||
To be fair, though, CNN employs a ton of people who do boots-on-the-ground reporting, although I think they don't do that great. | ||
And they do, you know, ear-to-the-phone reporting. | ||
I do very little. | ||
Most of my stuff right now is commentary, but that's one of the big plans I have. | ||
We've been trying to get a space for over a year. | ||
And the goal for the space was actually to hire journalists so that we would actually start doing this. | ||
And we do have, you know, we do have our friends over at SCNR who are literally doing on-the-ground journalism and stuff like that, so I don't wanna act like we're not contributing. | ||
But the goal I have is to do a lot more original reporting. | ||
That's gonna be awesome. | ||
So, less of looking at, like, a Fox article. | ||
Like, right now we got, like, a Fox article pulled up. | ||
Nah, we get our own sources. | ||
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Yeah. | |
That way we know for sure, like, so check it out. | ||
We did this original story. | ||
We talked about this guy, how we say, yeah, he was a supporter of Black Lives Matter. | ||
There's no article explaining all of this. | ||
So I want to get someone who can break it down and say, to the best of our understanding, this guy very likely was, here's why, here's the source, here's what we've confirmed. | ||
Yeah, kind of like Axios style, simplified, easy to understand. | ||
Yeah, and then we would actually have our independent sources and we could talk about it. | ||
That'd be great. | ||
All right, let's read some more of these here questions. | ||
Stoked. | ||
Kill everyone! | ||
Full self-preservation. | ||
I'm just not feeling it today. | ||
Protect me at all costs. | ||
conundrums. The solution is simple. Put a slider in the settings menu that lets | ||
the driver choose the level of self-preservation they are comfortable | ||
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with. Kill everyone! I don't want to die. Protect me at all costs. | |
All right, let's see we got. Scrog CW says, Tim please do real research on Oath | ||
They are not far-right terrorists. | ||
We are veterans, etc., that have sworn an oath to defend our Constitution from enemies foreign or domestic. | ||
Right, that's what I was saying. | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
I think that's what we were saying. | ||
Yeah, so I don't believe they're far-right. | ||
Yeah, the article said they were, but that's ridiculous. | ||
And you even said they were, like, middle of the road. | ||
Constitutionalists. | ||
Is that water? | ||
He thirsty. | ||
He's drinking your water? | ||
Yeah, well, it's his water now. | ||
You can see him on the camera. | ||
It's awesome. | ||
He just jams his face in your water and starts drinking it. | ||
Yeah, so I met the Oath Keepers in Ferguson, and it was really funny because they were walking around during the riots, and then some people started yelling at them, like, what are you doing here? | ||
And they're like, we're here to keep everyone safe. | ||
And they're like, well, then you should be protecting us from the police. | ||
And they're like, we are. | ||
We are. | ||
And then somebody was like, wait, what? | ||
He's like, yeah, definitely. | ||
We think the cop's stepping out of line. | ||
They're cerebellum-fused. | ||
They're like, wait, what? | ||
Like, what? | ||
Yeah, yeah, they were like, we don't like the cops stepping out of line, so we're here to make sure everybody stays safe. | ||
And I was like, interesting. | ||
Yeah, I like that. | ||
It's the neutrality of the American Constitution. | ||
That's how it should be, exactly. | ||
So Zhang the Great says, we must make sure our turnouts on election day are greater than 53% of the state population. | ||
They cannot ballot harvest or mail in back-end victory with a population that doesn't exist. | ||
Yeah, well, a lot of people don't know or care, man. | ||
Look at him, he's going at that water. | ||
He's chugging. | ||
He doesn't drink all day and then he chugs. | ||
He doesn't trust any water but yours. | ||
He's like a poison tester. | ||
He's royalty. | ||
He's like, I'm not going to drink this random ball on the ground, are you nuts? | ||
That's so weird. | ||
All right, let's see what we got here. | ||
Reginald Enterprises says, one thing the militias have on both sides is the radio waves. | ||
A lot of them are ham radio operators and can communicate across the country without external assistance. | ||
Interesting. | ||
What's the range on ham? | ||
It's like super far. | ||
Yeah, it is, I think. | ||
It bounces off the stratosphere, I believe. | ||
We should learn more about it. | ||
We should get, yeah, we should build something. | ||
We should definitely. | ||
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We could build a tower. | |
Yeah. | ||
Let's do it. | ||
I knew a dude once who created a pirate radio station, and he got in serious trouble. | ||
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Oh, wow. | |
Oh, that's cool, though. | ||
Yeah. | ||
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I mean, that's not terrible. | |
Well, I don't know him very well. | ||
It was a guy I met at a party in L.A., a friend of a friend, who was like, he got arrested, I guess. | ||
He didn't really get in that much trouble. | ||
They were like, dude, don't do that. | ||
He was like, okay. | ||
He was like, cool thing. | ||
Oh, your friends are criminals. | ||
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Yep. | |
All right, let's see what we got here. | ||
We read this one. | ||
We read this one. | ||
Jeffrey Paris says, check out the book Influx by Daniel Suarez. | ||
It's about culturally disruptive tech, like AI and cold fusion, controlled by the government. | ||
The central theme is, it is the nature of consciousness to resist domination. | ||
Whirl-a-bee Scott says, watch the TV series Continuum, all based around corporate government. | ||
Seems what corporations are trying to do. | ||
It reminds me of that, I think it was a Family Guy joke, where they were making a parody of like an 80s sci-fi movie, and it was like two people running on Mars towards a building, and they're like, oh no, it's the corporation! | ||
Like, the government is the corporation or whatever. | ||
Yeah, that terraforming Mars is all about corporations. | ||
Yeah, that makes sense. | ||
You know, taking the lead, which is basically what Elon's doing. | ||
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Gotta outsource it. | |
Oh man, we got a bunch. | ||
Thank you everyone! | ||
Jump on in! | ||
The Mighty Mitochondria says, love the show. | ||
Wish you guys the best of luck. | ||
You nailed the sentiment of Seattle in the Northwest. | ||
As someone who lives in the suburbs of Seattle, it is quite depressing here, but compared to that of rural parts, it's a completely different state. | ||
Interesting. | ||
Interesting, yeah. | ||
No, not yet. | ||
Black and White says, it's about time you talked the possibility of civil war, Tim. | ||
The American people need to know it could happen. | ||
You have a responsibility to keep giving us the unadulterated truth. | ||
So far, we are all proud of you and Lydia. | ||
Appreciate it. | ||
Not Ian, though. | ||
Nobody likes Ian. | ||
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No, not yet. | |
Not yet. | ||
He's got to earn it. | ||
Lawrence Atuk says, Tim, dialing in from the end of the world, Hawaii. | ||
Love your show and what you're doing. | ||
How are you liking your guns that you bought? | ||
Have you had a chance to get out and shoot practice? | ||
I have not, but I really love it when friends come over and I'm like, hey, I know where I hide my own guns. | ||
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That's good. | |
And then we go, I have a safe. | ||
Isn't this crazy? | ||
I know where I keep my own weaponry. | ||
You guys want to see where I hide my guns? | ||
Interesting. | ||
Dude, how amazing would it be to be a squirrel? | ||
You could just climb up to the top of a tree and go like, yeah! | ||
And just jump off and go woo! | ||
I love those animals. | ||
I feed them nuts. | ||
Do you ever feed squirrels? | ||
This dude's chugging, man. | ||
Dude, how amazing would it be to be a squirrel? | ||
You could just like climb up to the top of a tree and go like, | ||
Yeah! And just jump off and go, Woo! | ||
I love those animals. I feed them nuts. | ||
Do you ever feed squirrels a hang? | ||
This dude's chugging, man. | ||
He wants it. | ||
If he eat a salt block. | ||
Get some milk. | ||
Now he stops. He knows we're talking about him. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
Too much energy. | ||
What about cats? Cats can survive. | ||
Like, they like spread out and they like, you know. | ||
They can survive falls. | ||
They can, like, long distances too. | ||
I don't know the physics of it. | ||
So there's something called, yeah. | ||
I have an idea that I want to do. | ||
I I had this idea for a lightweight carbon fiber wingsuit for cats. | ||
And the way it works is, you know how when cats jump, they'll put their legs out? | ||
Yeah. | ||
That motion will release the glider. | ||
That's cool. | ||
So when they jump, the wings come out, and then they glide, but when they land and their legs go down, it reverses the mechanism and folds the wings back up. | ||
If it's lightweight enough, I think they'd get down with that. | ||
We're going to throw the cat off the porch, aren't we? | ||
Thin carbon fiber. | ||
Another reason to start a graphene revolution. | ||
And then you can, we're not going to throw the cat anywhere. | ||
I was going to say. | ||
We're going to make it so that when he's jumping between the couch and the coffee table, he glides. | ||
Betsy could use one of those. | ||
I want to be a flying squirrel. | ||
Yeah, well she's too fat. | ||
She's too thump, thump, thump. | ||
I don't want her to thump. | ||
Betsy's very fat. | ||
She bounces, it's okay. | ||
All right, what do we got here? | ||
Colin Sanders says, look up comprehensive sexuality education. | ||
Sex ed starting at kindergarten, present in 27 states. | ||
Texas is debating it November. | ||
Whoa, really? | ||
Wow. | ||
Now, I gotta be fair. | ||
I don't think there's a problem with some sex ed at, like, any grade, but it's gotta be, like... What I mean by that is, teaching kindergartners about boys and girls are different. | ||
Right, of course. | ||
And teaching first graders about... Times have changed. | ||
Kids are seeing pornography at, like, age four on the internet. | ||
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So maybe you have to start giving them the full... No, you don't. | |
I don't think so. | ||
Keep your kids away from that. | ||
But I mean, then they go to school and one kid has an iPhone and shows all the other ones. | ||
Dude, when I was in 6th grade, some kid printed out a bunch of stuff and like... Homeschool your kids! | ||
Yeah, dude, definitely homeschool your kids, man. | ||
At least until a certain age. | ||
Definitely homeschool your kids, man. | ||
Kayleen Mim says, Crowder does the best, the best impression of Trump. | ||
Okay. | ||
Oh, everybody agrees. | ||
Crazy Dog Lay says, the riots have taken place during the PNW sunny season. | ||
Rarely rains in the summer. | ||
But yes, yes, yes. | ||
But what I just mean is like people there are more depressed than like on average. | ||
So yeah, you have the sunny season for sure. | ||
I just think people are really, you know, kind of all the time. | ||
Yes. | ||
Just like that. | ||
Without the vitamin D. Yes. | ||
Yeah, definitely. | ||
Oh man, I wonder, yeah, so was COVID more prevalent in the Pacific Northwest? | ||
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Wow. | |
I wonder. | ||
Wasn't that where it started in Washington? | ||
It totally was. | ||
Oh, that's right. | ||
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You're right. | |
That's right, that's right. | ||
Okay, figured it out. | ||
Zappi says, Tim, did you hear about the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomy Region Committee being credited in the new Mulan movie? | ||
I heard they are one of the organizations that are responsible for the mistreatment of Uyghur Muslims. | ||
Yeah. | ||
That's correct. | ||
Now you've got people saying, I don't normally want boycotts, but I kind of think we should boycott Disney. | ||
Both sides do, yeah. | ||
Here we go. | ||
Shadow of Machines says, there is the civilian marksmanship program. | ||
It should be expanded. | ||
That's cool. | ||
I'm gonna look it up. | ||
Greek Oasis says, on the subject of how fragile our system is, just remember that September 11th was orchestrated by 19 extremists. | ||
Seriously, man. | ||
Knocked down a couple buildings. | ||
And that anniversary is tomorrow, man. | ||
Oh, it is! | ||
Didn't see that coming. | ||
Never forget. | ||
That's a great topic. | ||
Nannin says, my high school had a pistol and a 100-yard rifle range. | ||
Shooting 22LR rifles was part of gym class. | ||
They had to remove the firearms class and built tennis courts over the range in the late 90s. | ||
That's kind of a bummer, man. | ||
Gregory Chu says, FYI, before the Gun Control Act of 1968, you could order guns by mail and have them delivered straight to your home. | ||
Oh, man. | ||
What? | ||
What happened? | ||
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Wow. | |
You know what it was, though? | ||
A lot of racists. | ||
It was like the chaos of the 60s with the hippie movement and the Black Panther movement and then Nixon trying to quash it all. | ||
There was all that, they must have legislated away gun rights or something. | ||
So I was watching something and they said there was a lot of racists who didn't want to see... It's actually really interesting. | ||
I was watching something, you know Adam Ruins Everything? | ||
Yeah. | ||
They did something, I think it was Adam Ruins Everything, where they had a conservative guy and a liberal guy and like they're arguing and then he like explains things and explains how gun control is racist. | ||
And then they show some, like, mock Black Panthers, and I actually appreciated this, when he says, you know, it was actually in California, they didn't want the Black Panthers to be armed, so they started passing gun control laws. | ||
And then the conservative character in the show says, these are just law-abiding citizens who wanted to protect themselves from tyrannical government. | ||
And I was like... | ||
Yeah, that's right! | ||
The fact that they did this calling gun control racist, and at least in one part depicted the conservative as not being a racist, and really understanding why there are revolutionary groups that wanted guns, I'm like, and it's principled. | ||
Like, the Black Panthers showed up in Virginia at that big gun control protest. | ||
And people were like, awesome! | ||
Because those people actually had principles for what they believed in when it comes to 2A. | ||
That's right. | ||
It's like you've got the NFAC. | ||
What's that? | ||
The Not F'ing Around Coalition. | ||
Walking around with guns and it's like, just a bunch of Americans doing what they're legally allowed to do. | ||
With 3D printing guns, the way that they're advancing that technology, Trying to legislate that away is just going to make a mockery of the system. | ||
So I think we have to, there's a reckoning coming. | ||
There was a photo, there was a news story that was getting some traction and like the left was propping it up. | ||
It was a bunch of black dudes in Michigan standing on the Capitol building with like rifles and handguns. | ||
And they were like, look at this, you know, this is, you know, whatever, blah, blah, blah. | ||
We're standing up for our rights and something. | ||
And I said, it's not, this is, you know why, you know why that's not news? | ||
Why is it news that some guys are standing on a public staircase with guns? | ||
It's not. | ||
It's not news. | ||
It probably shouldn't be. | ||
It's not. | ||
So the news story is, breaking news, Americans exercise rights. | ||
Yeah, okay, thank you. | ||
Have a nice day. | ||
That's out of the norm or something? | ||
But it was because a bunch of right-wing individuals showed up and the media said they were like terrorists and extremists. | ||
And then the left had their coalition of, you know, like, minority-led groups that were armed. | ||
And they were like, aha, see, we can do it too. | ||
But the right, the 2A people were like, thank you, yes, that's very awesome. | ||
This is so funny. | ||
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We agree. | |
We want you to protest. | ||
It helps us. | ||
We're not mad at you. | ||
This is so funny to me because there's a picture circulating on the internet of a family that's armed, like, to the teeth. | ||
They're African-American and they're like, what do you think about this? | ||
And everyone's like, that's fantastic. | ||
We love that. | ||
My response was they should have given the baby a squirt gun. | ||
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I know, right? | |
Like, the baby's the only one who's not armed. | ||
Should we give the babies some? | ||
Were you guys allowed to play with toy guns when you were little? | ||
Oh, totally. | ||
Of course, yeah. | ||
We were. | ||
Remember the cap guns? | ||
Oh, I love those things. | ||
Yeah, we did. | ||
You get the paper wheel of light and then you put it in. | ||
Smash it with a rock. | ||
And when you pull the trigger, it goes pop, pop, pop. | ||
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Yeah, I love that. | |
It's got like gunpowder in it or something. | ||
I'm gonna order some of those. | ||
Those still exist? | ||
I remember the smell. | ||
I'm sure, yeah. | ||
American made. | ||
Yeah, maybe. | ||
Let's find it. | ||
I bet they're illegal, though. | ||
We had super soakers. | ||
Yeah, dude. | ||
Those are very cool. | ||
Yeah, super soakers are cool. | ||
What an invention. | ||
Definitely. | ||
Addicted to Adrenaline says, Hey, Tim, what happened to the other guy, Adam? | ||
Just curious. | ||
I probably missed it. | ||
If you have already addressed it, my bad. | ||
If that's the case, keep up the good work, my friend. | ||
He's doing his own show. | ||
He's doing his own show with his own guests and everything. | ||
Which I have been on. | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
And Ian, like, as a go, he goes back and forth. | ||
Join. | ||
He's on two shows, and he's in the other room with his studio. | ||
So it's like, you know, we hang out, we skate, we do our thing, and he's doing his own show. | ||
And it's like taking off. | ||
So it's still linked in the YouTube channel. | ||
You can see his channel and the stuff he produces. | ||
He just had Corey DeAngelo on talking about school choice last Saturday. | ||
Yeah, cool stuff. | ||
Karlyn Borysenko. | ||
Good stuff. | ||
Charlie Charlie says, I consult for an IT company in Cali. | ||
Last week we had a talk about removing offensive terms from our code. | ||
Blacklist, whitelist, server, slave, cop, etc. | ||
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What? | |
What all? | ||
Found out there's a whole movement about it. | ||
Yup. | ||
Oh, give me a break. | ||
Oh man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Dude. | ||
You didn't know that? | ||
Did you not know that? | ||
Server? | ||
Yes. | ||
They're making it up at this point. | ||
So when you go to a restaurant and you're like, who's my waitress? | ||
Sir, that's offensive. | ||
They're called servers. | ||
Excuse me, server? | ||
That's offensive. | ||
I am not a server for you. | ||
I am a food dispensary specialist. | ||
Oh man, why? | ||
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I don't know. | |
Is this good? | ||
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No. | |
This is retarded. | ||
It's stupid. | ||
You're taking it too far. | ||
Pardon my French. | ||
Now you're going to get in trouble. | ||
Now I'm going to get in trouble. | ||
Blacklist. | ||
I know, right? | ||
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Now you're in trouble. | |
Okay, okay. | ||
I got us on the wrong thing. | ||
All right, okay. | ||
You know what? | ||
Lydia, you just crossed the line. | ||
Yeah? | ||
You said the offensive word, so we're shutting it off. | ||
All right. | ||
I'm just kidding. | ||
I'm just kidding. | ||
We're ending it. | ||
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No, it's 10.03. | |
It's 10.03. | ||
You know, let me just say to everybody, it is, it's actually fairly difficult to do guest bookings right now because of the lockdown. | ||
And so we've had a couple cancellations and it has a lot to do with one political uncertainty around, a lot of people are scrambling and things are very, very chaotic as we get closer to the election. | ||
And we're actually just ramping up the guest bookings and all this stuff. | ||
So, you know, we'll probably end up with cancellations or whatever, but it's fine because we're hanging out, we're gonna do the show, you know, Ian's hanging out. | ||
Always have a good time. | ||
But I believe we are scheduled for Kimberly Klesik tomorrow. | ||
Correct. | ||
And we didn't have Will Chamberlain. | ||
And we didn't get Brandon Strzok. | ||
I don't know if I announced the Brandon thing though. | ||
Nope, we didn't. I kept it low key for that very reason. | ||
Yeah, we were hoping to get Brandon back in here, but he's super busy as well. | ||
And hopefully we'll have Kimberly tomorrow. | ||
But just, you know, I think we're trying to get... | ||
Like, we had Sean Parnell in here, and that was amazing. | ||
We had so much fun the other week, yeah. | ||
But he's like the candidate right now for the house. | ||
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He is, yeah. | |
He's a hot topic. | ||
It's like one of the most important races and I'm privileged to, honored that he was, you know, able to come in. | ||
So trying to get some really important and busy people, you know, we'll see how it plays out. | ||
But we'll be here Monday through Friday at 8 p.m. | ||
anyway, hanging out live. | ||
And so come back and hang out. | ||
We'll have clips throughout the day tomorrow, hopefully tomorrow night. | ||
I believe we are scheduled for Kimberley Classic, so that should be really interesting and fun. | ||
We'll talk about a lot of issues. | ||
Other than that, you can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, and Parler at TimCast. | ||
And you can check out my other channels at YouTube.com slash TimCast and YouTube.com slash TimCastNews. | ||
And of course, you can follow Ian at IanCrossland on everywhere, Twitter, Instagram. | ||
Are you on Parler? | ||
I am on Parler, yeah. | ||
And Mines. | ||
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YouTube. | |
I have a YouTube channel which I barely use at the moment. | ||
That may change in the future. | ||
And of course there's at Sour Patch Lids. | ||
Sour Patch L-Y-D-S on Twitter and Parler. | ||
Correct. | ||
And thanks for hanging out everybody. | ||
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I've seen a lot of your videos. | ||
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It's incredible what it can do. | ||
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Like if you do, if you really like the show, share it right now. | ||
Yeah. | ||
My friends are watching. | ||
I have some friends from home that I haven't seen in a long time watching. | ||
It's just so fun to find out that people, you know, are It's crazy. | ||
I've had people hitting me up being like, dude, my brother watches your show. | ||
And I'm like, wow, so connected. | ||
The universe, like the Internet's allowing us to be to like show. | ||
It's like the technology that's enhancing our connectivity. | ||
I just feel like a dude who complains about his feelings on the Internet. | ||
You know, it works. | ||
Holler. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Hey, thanks for hanging out, everybody. | ||
We'll be back tomorrow at 8 p.m. | ||
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