All Episodes
Aug. 28, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
02:10:12
Timcast IRL - MAJOR Democrat Stronghold Just Endorsed Trump, Union Country Says TRUMP 2020
Participants
Main voices
l
lydia smith
20:29
t
tim pool
01:47:53
| Copy link to current segment

Speaker Time Text
tim pool
This morning, Benny Johnson tweeted out a 9 minute long video of people calling into C-SPAN
and saying that they were leaving the Democratic Party and they'd be voting for Trump.
And they gave a variety of reasons for this.
The rioting, the Democrats move far left, the embrace of socialism, basically the same thing.
But I guess you can say the far left in many ways is a reference to cancel culture and this weird identity politics.
But we got big breaking news!
I love saying news that way, by the way.
News!
Yeah, because it makes it sound better.
No, it's because Luke says news.
lydia smith
Doesn't what's-his-name on Vdrama say it, too?
unidentified
No.
lydia smith
Good news, everyone.
tim pool
News.
Here's the breaking news.
Six cities in the Iron Range, a Union Democrat stronghold, have just written a letter endorsing Donald Trump.
And this is crazy.
This is the biggest Democrat stronghold outside of the Twin Cities in Minnesota, and this is huge for one reason.
It's funny.
It's not just these people who have endorsed Donald Trump, because there's more to the story.
A lot of people are talking about these Republicans who are endorsing Joe Biden.
And they're like, you know, oh look all these old Republicans supporting Joe
Biden, that means Trump is bad.
Listen, I'll tell you what, these Republicans supporting Joe Biden are swamp monsters and spooks.
People who used to work for intelligence agencies. So by all means, you can have them, okay? If
they're going to go and endorse Biden, I'm not going to try and win them back over.
Union workers, however, hey, come on over.
right? Come on over. Now, so, you know, I I have some people on Facebook, smack-talking, saying things like, I'm pretending to support Trump or whatever, and it's like, I don't understand how I can do four hours of content every single day, and people just don't understand.
You could probably build a psych profile on me, and map out exactly where I've been and where I'm going, and make a prediction like, yeah, I imagine it'll be here at this point.
Because it's really obvious.
You know, before the riots, I was like, I don't know, I'm not going to vote for Trump.
Then the riots happened.
I was like, I bought guns!
Now I have many guns.
lydia smith
Interesting turnaround.
I remember the first time I heard you say, and I consciously noticed that you were talking about how big cities run by Democrats did not seem to be doing well.
I was like, yes, yes, this is what I have been saying.
tim pool
How's it going, everybody?
So we've got this, we've got some other- So we're gonna talk about this too.
I mean, this is huge, and we'll go over what the Iron Range is, and we got some other tweets.
It's really crazy to me to see this paranoid, delusional bubble from the Beltway politicians.
There is this huge thread going viral, and I mean viral viral, where this lady's like, Trump is trying to become an autocrat, America is falling to an autocratic takeover.
I just love the Twitter universe.
Twitter is not reality.
lydia smith
It is special.
tim pool
Facebook might be, though.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
That's another story that we have.
These journalists who are crying because Ben Shapiro basically owns Facebook.
And I mean that in the sense they say he wants to own the libs.
Well, like, the top posts are almost always from The Daily Wire and Ben Shapiro, so they're accusing him of Oh yeah.
and all this other stuff. And then we're going to talk about how college is bad and some
other things. So if you haven't already, give that like button a good old smash because
it does help support the channel. Sharing the video also really does help if you like
the show. Today it's just me and Lydia hanging out.
Oh yeah.
But on Monday we're going to have Kimberly Klesik and I'm really, really excited about
lydia smith
that.
tim pool
She has probably the biggest political ad ever, right?
lydia smith
I think so.
Yeah.
I feel like everyone has seen it at this point.
She's walking through Baltimore in her high heels.
tim pool
Talking about Democrat cities.
lydia smith
Talking about Democrat cities.
And she's like, they don't really care.
Look what's happened.
She gives numbers.
She's like, Sure.
tim pool
I think the craziest thing about it was that she said a Democrat-run city is the worst place for a black person to live.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And I'm like, I'm interested to talk to her about that.
unidentified
Me too.
tim pool
Because I'm wondering, like, be specific, you know what I mean?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, because I'm from Chicago, so I don't disagree.
I'm just like, I wonder, you know, what is that?
Like, I want to hear depth on that, because I believe it.
I'd like to hear some, you know, data.
You know what I mean?
lydia smith
Yeah, she has a lot of different views and approaches that I would like to talk to her about, too.
tim pool
That'll be fun.
But for now, the big breaking news.
So make sure you subscribe.
We do the show Monday through Friday live at 8 p.m.
And check this out.
The first thing I want to show you is from Benny Johnson.
Many of you probably saw this already, but this is...
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
It's epic, I guess.
The amount of Democrats calling in a c-span during the GOP convention saying that they're switching parties is insane.
Democrats are leaving Joe Biden's radical left party for Trump.
It's nine minutes long.
But there's one thing I want to play.
Actually, I don't think I can play because I don't think it's working.
But at the seven minute mark is a woman who says she fled socialism and that she's like an older lady, too, with an accent.
And she's like, if I have to lay my life on the line to defend this country, I will do it.
And I'm just like, I'm clapping like, yes.
How is it that we have these immigrants who escaped socialism saying, I would die for this country, and we have socialists born in this country saying, like, death to this country?
Man, that's messed up.
Well, it doesn't translate to the actual working class.
Check this out.
Donald Trump posted this to his website.
This is a letter signed by six mayors.
from what's called the Iron Range in Minnesota.
I'll be completely honest, I had not heard of the Iron Range until this happened.
lydia smith
I hadn't either.
tim pool
Yeah.
I don't think this is, you know, not to be disrespectful, but I don't think there's a lot of people who live in the Iron Range.
But let me read this so you get an understanding of what this means.
And the first thing I want to do is I just want to show you that this is the Wikipedia page for the Iron Range, and they specifically note That it's a largely unionized workforce.
The rural areas remained.
Democratic Farmer Labor Party.
Not even the Democratic Party.
It's the Democratic Farmer Labor Party.
This is unions, straight up.
And the DFL basically is associated with the Democratic Party.
They say the area remains the greatest Democratic stronghold in Minnesota after the urban centers of Minneapolis and St.
Paul.
They say in 2016, Donald Trump's populist message enabled him to gain ground in the Iron Range, Well, I want to show you what actual working-class people in this country believe.
Because there's something I noticed about, I don't know, everything from the far left.
They're young, unhinged, and typically well-off, and they're screeching about socialism.
And I'm like, none of these people work.
Like, where's the 50-year-old dude who's, like, got a construction hat on, who actually, you know, does labor, you know, like farmers?
lydia smith
Right.
Well, remember that... Who was that guy?
Banks?
Who was saying that the rioters and protesters can't get unemployment.
They're just not working.
They're not working at all.
They have all the time in the world to protest.
tim pool
Jim Banks, right?
lydia smith
Yeah, yeah, I think so.
tim pool
So there's a... Is he in Congress?
lydia smith
He's Indian.
I think he's a...
tim pool
Anyway, this Republican from Indiana is saying that he wants to cancel federal unemployment benefits for people convicted on rioting charges.
Think about what that means.
That means right now there are far-left rioters romping around, screeching about how they hate this country, and they're being subsidized by our taxpayer dollars.
lydia smith
That makes me feel real good.
tim pool
Oh, man.
Let's read this letter and feel a little bit better.
lydia smith
OK, sorry about that.
tim pool
You can see it's from DonaldTrump.com.
They say in August 28th, fellow Americans, as greater Minnesota mayors from democratic cities on the Iron Range of Minnesota, we write today to formally endorse the re-election of President Donald J. Trump and Vice President Mike Pence.
Like many in our region, we have voted for Democrats over many decades.
We have watched as our constituents' jobs left not only the Iron Range, but our country.
By putting tariffs on our products and supporting bad trade deals, politicians like Joe Biden did nothing to help the working class.
We lost thousands of jobs, and generations of young people have left the Iron Range in order to provide for their families with good-paying jobs elsewhere.
Today, we don't recognize the Democratic Party.
It has been moved so far to the left, it can no longer claim to be advocates of the working class.
The hard-working Minnesotans that built their lives and supported their families here on the Range have been abandoned by radical Democrats.
We didn't choose to leave the Democratic Party.
The party left us.
Doesn't that sound familiar?
lydia smith
That's getting really repetitive at this point.
tim pool
It is.
It's almost kind of boring to hear.
It's like, I get it, I get it.
You're a liberal too, I know.
Come over and vote for Trump.
We've all decided to do the same thing.
I don't consider myself a conservative.
And even sitting down with Sean Parnell, he's like laughing, like, you are not right-wing.
lydia smith
Oh no, yeah.
tim pool
I agree.
Conservatives can see it.
They're like, get out of here you hippie skateboarding, you know, whatever.
But I, you know, the way I described it earlier is, I mean, they hit the nail on the head.
It's just gone so far to the left, it doesn't represent working class people anymore.
I don't even know what they represent.
lydia smith
You know, the funniest part about this to me is watching Twitter, the fake world of
Twitter talk about the people who are like calling it a C-span and the people who say,
you know, the Democratic Party has moved too far left.
Watching people on Twitter say, oh, these are just Trump supporters.
These people aren't telling the truth.
And I honestly am a little bit entertained to think about what's going to happen in November when they find out that these people are actually telling the truth.
tim pool
You know, maybe we're in the bubble, but I just don't think so.
lydia smith
I don't know.
tim pool
I don't believe it.
I don't think so.
lydia smith
I kind of trust myself because I try to think that I'm paying attention and I give room for other people's thoughts, but... They point it out, and we still have more to read of this letter because they go through how Trump helped them, and we'll get to it.
tim pool
But a lot of these people point out the TV ratings for the DNC were way higher.
I think that has a lot to do with the fact that Republicans follow both news sources.
So I've shown this graph before.
So this is a justification for why I think, you know, that more people are going to vote for Trump.
For obvious reasons.
I mean, walk away is real.
Yeah.
We heard it on C-SPAN.
There's no, like, never Trump is just like a bunch of crony establishment people.
But there's a graph I often show that shows conservatives get about a third of their news from liberal sources, mainstream sources, and two-thirds from conservative.
Moderates are inverted, two-thirds from mainstream and one-third from conservative, but liberals, the left, they only get their news from left-wing sources.
So that says to me that when it comes to the DNC ratings, Republicans were watching.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Democrats probably weren't watching the RNC.
So it made the numbers bigger.
And then when the RNC happened, you had some journalists, but I doubt regular, you know, like traditional liberals watched or cared.
But hey, some people also pointing out that it's because Trump supporters wanted to watch online.
And I think that's a fair point, too, because we were watching the RNC.
And at first we were watching on PBS.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And all they did was like interject to rag on Trump and Republicans.
lydia smith
Their commentary was awful.
tim pool
Yeah, and they had that lady, what's her name?
Yamiche, I think.
Where she had tweeted out, making fun of, like slamming the dude, Cawthorn.
lydia smith
Yeah, Madison Cawthorn, who's in a wheelchair.
He's paraplegic.
Yeah, sorry.
Yeah, he can't stand and he managed to do it.
And she's like, he's making light of the people who kneel.
tim pool
Yeah, right, so Madison Cawthorn stands for his speech at the RNC and it's like a huge effort because he's paralyzed.
lydia smith
Yeah, he stood for the Pledge of Allegiance.
tim pool
For the Pledge of Allegiance, oh yeah.
And then this woman from PBS says that he's like doing it as like a slight against all those who would kneel and I'm like, he's standing up because like he's showing that he believes in this.
It's not a slight against you!
He's just standing up, I don't get it.
lydia smith
He thinks it's important.
tim pool
It's inspirational.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
But she's giving commentary during the RNC, and all she was doing was just lying.
And they had one guy on who did the verified people hoax.
lydia smith
Yep, they kicked off strong with that one.
tim pool
So I was just like, I turn on C-SPAN.
lydia smith
Yeah, it was way better.
I think that C-SPAN is an underappreciated, important part of our democracy.
C-SPAN's great.
tim pool
Yeah, you just play it.
And then people calling in, too.
lydia smith
Yeah, I was like, that's so cool.
tim pool
Let's read some more of this letter.
This is really amazing stuff, because now they get into the praise for Donald Trump.
They say, we didn't choose to leave the Democratic Party, the party left us.
Yet four years ago, something wonderful happened.
Donald J. Trump was elected President of the United States, and he stood up to China, implemented tax cuts, and fought for the working class.
Now, four years later, the Iron Range is roaring back to life.
And for the first time in a very long time, locals are hopeful because of this president's policies and willingness to fight for us.
Lifelong politicians like Joe Biden are out of touch with the working class, out of touch with what the country needs, and out of touch with those of us here on the Iron Range and in small towns like ours across the nation.
In this election, there's a lot at stake, but the biggest risk is our jobs, our economy, and our way of life.
President Trump delivered the best economy in our nation's history, and President Trump will deliver for us again.
He will continue to fight for every American, regardless of party affiliation, and continue to stand up for the working class.
Today, we write to formally endorse President Donald J. Trump and Vice President Mike Pence for four more years.
And we got Larry Cuff of Mayor of Virginia, John Ciampa, Mayor of Chisholm, Chuck Novak, Mayor of Elliot, Chris Swanson, Mayor of Two Harbors, Robert Vlasov, I'm sorry, I can't pronounce, I'm not trying to be mean, but Vlasov, Lizhevich.
Hope I got it right.
I definitely didn't.
Mayor of Eveleth and Andrea Zupanich.
Zupanchich.
I'm proud.
I can't pronounce these names.
lydia smith
I mean, no disrespect.
tim pool
Yeah, I just, that's my, that's my bad.
No disrespect.
Mayor of Babbitt.
So these six mayors, and this is, like I mentioned, according to Wikipedia, the greatest democratic stronghold in Minnesota after the urban centers of Minneapolis and St.
Paul, not even the suburban areas of the Twin Cities.
lydia smith
I really like this.
Look at this.
Okay, it goes, the Iron Range is known for Cornish pastries stuffed with carrots, ground beef, and potatoes.
Pastries were an easy lunch for people working deep in the iron mines.
Slovenian and Croatian immigrants brought the honey nut bread called podica to the Iron Range region that's still served at Eastern Christmas in northern Minnesota.
That is really cool.
Like, so those crazy last names we're seeing are actually from Slovenia.
unidentified
Cool.
lydia smith
Croatia.
That's neat.
I kind of like that piece of history from them.
tim pool
And you know what?
And the Democrats, they just call it the flyover states.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's nonsense.
This is a really cool place.
tim pool
Particularly disrespectful to people who don't live in New York and Los Angeles.
And this is crazy to me.
You know, I'm seeing a lot of posts on Facebook talking about the Kyle Rittenhouse.
So for those, I'm sure most of you are familiar.
He's the dude who lives in Antioch, which is about 20 minutes out of Kenosha.
And he went in, he had a gun.
You know, chaos ensued, they attacked him, someone fired a round into the air, he shot, killed the guy, chased him, it's, you know... For the most part, it seems like it really was self-defense, and we're gonna break down everything that happened, because we've got a thread from a journalist from Slate who just lies the whole time.
And I think it's, you know, kind of escalating to a dangerous place, but anyway, the point was...
I see a lot of people bringing this up and, you know, I kind of lost my train of thought once I started thinking about what went down in Kenosha.
lydia smith
Yeah, so the mining people and the people who are... No, I lost it.
tim pool
I had a point, I had a point and then I started just imagining everything that went down and I'm like, oh man, it's getting really bad.
Yeah, but anyway, I guess the general idea is people don't understand what it's like to live in these small towns that are, they call it like across state lines when he comes from Antioch to Kenosha, but it's like they live on the border.
Right.
These are areas that are very, very far apart.
And this kid probably used to hang out in Kenosha all the time.
But anyway, more to the point, one thing I find really interesting is they mention that Joe Biden has lost touch with the working class.
And considering this is like a union area, I thought it was really interesting because there's that video of Joe Biden in the factory, and that union worker comes up to him and he's like, you wanna take my guns away?
And Joe Biden just insults him.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Do you remember what Biden, what did he say to him?
lydia smith
That was where he said, look fat, wasn't it?
tim pool
No, no, no, that wasn't the look fat moment.
lydia smith
OK.
tim pool
The look fat was when like an older, fatter guy was like, Joe!
And then he was like, look fat!
lydia smith
Oh, he called him, like, a damn liar.
tim pool
Yes, yes.
lydia smith
I think that's what happened.
tim pool
That's the one, I think.
lydia smith
Yeah, and I was like, are you serious?
This guy wants to vote for you.
He just has a question about your policy, and you're calling him a liar?
tim pool
Joe Biden tells his own voters not to vote for him.
unidentified
Yeah, that's really something.
tim pool
On more than one occasion, yeah.
So, to be fair, I want to show you this, and I want to make this point.
This is a website called defendingdemocracytogether.org.
lydia smith
Oh, boy.
tim pool
They say, you know, blah, blah, blah.
They don't like Trump.
Donald Trump is impaired.
You get all these reasons for why they don't like Trump.
I get it.
I get it.
I'm not going to read it.
You know why?
All of these people are, you know, former Homeland Security, Secretary of State, NSC staff, CIA, NSA, Trade Rep, NSC, a lot of intelligence agency people and former Republicans.
And I just, I'm, you know, somebody sent me this.
I posted the, the, what was it?
What?
lydia smith
He's a former- okay, so one of these guys is a former senior director for N- oh, NSC.
Okay, I thought it said NBC.
tim pool
No, NSC.
Yeah, National Security- what is it?
lydia smith
National Security Council?
tim pool
That's what I figured, yeah.
So I posted the thing about the Iron Range.
And I think it's a huge deal that Democrats are straight up being like, Trump is helping us and these are union guys.
Because we've heard a lot of the same things, especially from people like Sean Parnell.
Someone countered by posting this saying, oh yeah, look at these people.
And I'm like, yeah, you can have them.
lydia smith
Seriously.
tim pool
I don't want them.
lydia smith
Keep it.
tim pool
So the swamp is angry at Trump and the union workers in the middle of this country are thanking him.
Is that a hard choice?
lydia smith
No, that's great.
I think that's perfect.
And I think it's perfectly indicative of what he's been doing.
The swamp doesn't like him, but normal people do.
tim pool
I don't understand what's happened.
How is it the Democratic voter base has become so unhinged and blind to this?
So anyway, I kind of remember the point I was trying to make before when I was talking about Kyle Rittenhouse is that people seem to think, you know, when I post these things, they're saying things like, you know, the majority of this country doesn't agree with you and this guy's a terrorist and, you know, everybody wants Trump out.
And I'm like, do you read the news or is it just memes?
Because on Facebook, it's dominated every day by Ben Shapiro and, you know, Daily Wire and Fox News.
lydia smith
It is memes, and I'm curious if some of the reason that... I think the reason that Democrats did not tune in to the RNC was because they know that they can just wait until tomorrow morning, and they'll just hear exactly what they want to hear from people like Yamiche and everybody from PBS, and they'll get everything they want through their own filter of their own little bubble.
They don't have to hear anything they don't want to hear.
They don't have to actually listen to Donald Trump speak, which probably triggers them.
tim pool
I mean, you know, so I jokingly have been posting things like, Trump landslide.
So the first thing I post on Facebook is that Benny Johnson clip, where you get these C-SPAN callers.
Nine minutes!
I swear, I'm like, I gotta listen to it, it's my job.
unidentified
It was great.
tim pool
And I'm sitting there, I know, and I'm clapping and laughing.
There's like ladies, it's kind of crazy to hear like, just this middle-aged woman being like, the riots are near my house!
The Democrats won't talk about it!
And I'm imagining just like my hokey old neighbor, like, they don't pay attention, they're normies, they mind their own business, and they're scared right now.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And the Democrats praised the protests.
Who was it who said that?
I think it was...
I think I actually have it right here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, check it out.
The Atlantic.
This is how Biden loses.
Nothing will harm a campaign like the wishful thinking, fearful hesitation, or sheer complacency that fails to address what voters plainly see.
lydia smith
Oh boy.
tim pool
I mean, look at this.
Let me just read the paragraph.
They say it's no use dismissing their words as partisan talking points in reference to Trump's law and order.
They are effective ones backed up by certain facts.
Trump will bang this loudly, ugly drum, until election day.
He knows that Kenosha has placed Democrats in a trap.
They've embraced the protests and the causes that drive them.
The third night of the Democratic convention was consumed with the language and imagery of protest, as if all Americans watching were activists.
That's the point.
Written here by The Atlantic, this is how Joe Biden loses.
The Iron Range, a Democrat stronghold, has six cities from the Iron Range, not the entirety of, has endorsed Donald Trump.
We also heard the story from CNN a little while ago.
They went to like the Northern tip, which is probably a similar area, you know, probably in the Iron Range, and they found, they said it's a Democrat stronghold that supports Democrats locally and votes Donald Trump nationally.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
And they're all proud of it.
lydia smith
Yeah, they don't mind.
tim pool
So I have to imagine this.
Actually, let me give you some context first.
Michael Tracy, who is one of the few journalists who actually exists, albeit he's very snarky on Twitter when he talks about politics, but he actually got in a car and he drove to small towns and he saw the destruction.
And he saw many of these people doing what I would call begging.
Spray painting on their windows like, please don't hurt us, we support Black Lives Matter.
He went to towns That no one, that got no coverage, that nobody even probably knew had riots until he went there.
Now imagine this.
You live in some of these towns.
They're Democrat towns.
And you turn on the TV, and you tune in to the DNC, and what do they do?
They show the protesters.
They show them raising their fist.
And you think to yourself, aren't those the people that just smashed up my windows that I'm scared of?
lydia smith
Yep.
unidentified
I'd bet.
lydia smith
Yep, and they're getting the spotlight and not you.
tim pool
And, well, it's the Democrats supporting him.
And now it's blowing up in their faces, and they know it.
And that's why The Atlantic has this article.
Check this out.
They say on Monday, the day after Blake's shooting, Biden and his vice presidential nominee, Senator Kamala Harris, released statements expressing outrage.
The next day, Biden's spokesperson released a statement opposing burning down communities and needless destruction.
On Wednesday, Biden, after speaking with the Blake family, condemned both the initial incident and the subsequent destruction.
Burning down communities is not protest, he pleaded in a video, it's needless violence.
He said the same after George Floyd's killing.
How many Americans have heard him?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
In the crude terms of a presidential campaign, voters know that the Democrat means it when
he denounces police brutality, but less so when he denounces riots.
To reach the public and convince it otherwise, Biden has to go beyond boilerplate and make
it personal, memorable.
I don't buy it.
No?
You know why I don't buy it?
When he says, whoa, the destruction is bad.
Because then the DNC puts up the videos of the guy with the cape.
You know what I'm talking about?
You guys see that thing where like... Actually, it's that tweet that I put up.
lydia smith
Billy Porter.
You want to try to find it?
So it's this guy who's dancing and he was like, it was the cringiest thing I'd ever seen.
It really did look like a high school talent show type thing.
Oh, look.
tim pool
This image of the protests and this guy with the cape singing this protest song, and this person said, we're going to lose, aren't we?
I love this image because it's like, yes, I'd imagine you are.
But this protest image, listen, if you've got a bunch of people marching through the streets, raising their fists like he is right here, screaming Black Lives Matter while smashing things, And the Democrats go on TV and with a smile on their face go, peaceful protests.
And you're like, they smashed up the bakery by my house.
Or not even that.
You know, when they talk about smashing up Starbucks and they talk about smashing up banks, I'm like, did you ever stop to think about what the average person feels or thinks to themselves when they see that?
So I was in DC on, they call it J20, it was Trump's inauguration in 2017.
They smashed up McDonald's and Starbucks and like some banks or whatever.
And I was talking to somebody, because I tell them this all the time.
You ever stop and think about what that, you know, a regular person who shops there is thinking once they walk up?
lydia smith
Can't go there anymore.
tim pool
They're thinking, why can't I go to Starbucks?
I got work, I need coffee.
lydia smith
Why can't I go to my bank?
Why can't I deposit my paycheck?
tim pool
And now I'll one-up that.
I said, do you ever stop and think about what the person who worked at Starbucks is thinking after you do that?
lydia smith
No, I can't work.
tim pool
Why did they do this to me?
That's what they're thinking.
Why me?
Why me?
What about the person working at the bank?
I was talking to somebody during Occupy Wall Street, and I'm like, do you know how much that person makes in that small little office?
They're probably making like $40 or $50.
Well, it's New York, so maybe like $60, $70K.
All right?
That is not middle-class median for New York.
They're probably working really, really hard to try and get by, because New York City is very expensive.
I understand, in most parts of the country, $70K is probably a lot.
But some of these people in these offices are probably only getting like $50, if that.
And I said, do you know what they're thinking now that you smashed the window and there's glass all over their desk and their computer?
They're thinking, what did I do?
I don't understand.
And the people who go to that bank as customers are thinking like I got it
I got to make deposits today right I got it I got a I got to get a cashier's check to pay for my
deposit for my new apartment Why did they do this to me now?
I got to go to a different bank how how frustrating is that and they don't understand why they are being attacked now
imagine this You're in a small town. You know you're like remember that
video from I think it was like Syria Was it was a Rochester or Syracuse where the lady gets
attacked by the group of those that met those men?
You know I'm talking about the husband the lady of the fire the fire department equipment store
And there's like three dudes tacking.
So imagine that.
You're in a small town.
You're minding your own business.
The news doesn't talk about you.
The New York Times doesn't talk about you.
CBS, CNN, they don't care about you.
You're in a small town and you're being beaten.
And your wife is being beaten.
And then you're just angry and you're like, someone's got to do something about this.
Mayors know where to be... Democratic mayors know where to be found.
Governors say in peaceful protest.
Then you turn on the DNC.
And what do they do?
They show the people who attacked you.
Man, I'd be angry.
lydia smith
I would too.
And you know what I would do?
I would call C-SPAN.
I'd be like, hey, guess what?
I'm leaving the Democratic Party.
They've moved way far left.
I just watched the DNC and they're full of nonsense and I don't like it.
I'm scared.
tim pool
I do what I'm doing now.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, it's funny because I've talked about this, you know, several times when the riots hit their peak in June, I heard helicopters and sirens.
lydia smith
I remember that.
I heard them too.
tim pool
We're in the suburbs.
I was like, there's no way.
No way.
Because we're like, we're in the suburbs of the Philadelphia area, but we're on the Jersey side.
You got to cross the river.
And I'm like, we're far away, you know, but no, it was, it was within a few miles that we could see, we could see and hear the helicopters and sirens.
And I was like, how did they get anywhere near us?
That's crazy.
lydia smith
That was an uncomfortable night.
tim pool
And then I went out and bought guns!
lydia smith
Yes!
tim pool
Because I was like, what do I do if they show up to my house?
Because they've shown up to people's houses.
And then when, look, I can't believe, I'm gonna show you this.
I can't, look at this.
Mayor Ted Wheeler.
Today I sent this letter via email to Donald Trump, declining his recurring offer to aid Portland by sending federal enforcement to the city.
What.
A. Piece.
unidentified
Of.
tim pool
GABBAGE.
lydia smith
GABBAGE.
tim pool
We're in Jersey, so that's the thing.
lydia smith
GABBAGE.
tim pool
Dude.
Come on, man.
lydia smith
What is it at this point?
Is this just a virtue signal?
Does he think he's actually getting something done here?
What is he doing?
tim pool
He's supporting Trump.
lydia smith
Seriously?
tim pool
Dude, listen, listen.
If at this point that you have Mayor Frey of Minneapolis, you know they rioted in Minneapolis over a guy who killed himself.
lydia smith
Yes, I remember that.
It was probably a couple days ago.
tim pool
They don't care about any of this cause.
A murder suspect was running from cops, killed himself.
lydia smith
They literally had camera footage of it happening.
tim pool
It didn't matter.
lydia smith
Didn't matter.
tim pool
And that's why I get really bothered when mayors like Ted Wheeler virtue signal by being like, I stand with the protesters.
They don't care if you do or not.
They're gonna go smashy smashy no matter what happens.
They're like, something happened?
Can we make it an excuse?
unidentified
Let's go smash.
tim pool
And what's happening is, the more they do this, they can count on the media to cover it up.
Think about it this way.
If the Washington Post, the New York Times, and CNN were like, how dare these rioters come out because a man killed himself?
That's not the fault of the cops.
They didn't, though.
Imagine if they did.
The rioters would get caught, and they'd have zero sympathy.
lydia smith
Well, you could have put cultural pressure on them.
You could have been like, this is not okay.
Everyone knows it.
Here's some peer pressure against you.
tim pool
And because the media doesn't do this, if they get arrested, they're like, Black Lives Matter.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
Do something.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
So now they're going out and looting for whatever.
And you got Mayor Frey.
What was his name, Tom Frey?
lydia smith
His name is, what's his first name?
Wilbert.
Wilbert Frey, yes.
tim pool
Winston.
lydia smith
Winston, yeah.
tim pool
I don't know, his name's Frey, whatever.
The chat's gonna blow up.
Walder Frey.
So, he's agreed to call in the National Guard over this.
Good.
Governor Evers in Wisconsin agreed with Trump and will accept federal law enforcement and bolster the National Guard numbers.
And I'm like, thank you.
I'm clapping.
Dude, I wish you would have done it sooner.
I think they're too obsessed with their poll numbers and it's kind of pathetic, but I'm happy they're doing it now.
Still not going to vote for them in their party because of it, but I can respect that they're doing it right.
Ted Wheeler coming on being like, nah.
lydia smith
Sticking to his guns.
You know what?
tim pool
Look what Cernovich said.
He said, you just bankrupted Portland with that letter.
No, no.
lydia smith
Seriously.
tim pool
He's supporting Donald Trump.
lydia smith
I think you're right.
tim pool
I would like to thank Mayor Ted Wheeler for all of the support he's given to President Trump by doing these things for 93 plus days.
No, this is what really bothers me, because if it's true, like, come on, man.
How stupid does Ted... Come on, man.
Come on, man!
unidentified
Look fat!
tim pool
How dumb does Ted Wheeler gotta be?
lydia smith
Pretty dumb.
So, I'm getting two different vibes here.
I'm getting a real strong MAGA vibe.
I actually support Donald Trump and I'm afraid to come out and say it, but I'm going to say that I don't want federal aid.
Or I'm getting like a high school beta dude type vibe where there's a really cool guy and he really wants their approval.
So he's going to do whatever they want, but they just keep ignoring him.
They're like, yeah, whatever.
We don't want you here.
unidentified
I think it's more of a male feminist vibe.
lydia smith
I get that too.
tim pool
There's like, Ted Wheeler knows some like, raunchy chick that he's like, since he was a teenager.
And she's like, you know, she's like squatting in some building.
lydia smith
Oh gosh.
unidentified
And he's like, um, Roxanne, uh, I told the police to stand down.
tim pool
That's cool, right?
And she's like, yeah, whatever.
I don't care.
He's like, uh, do you want to like go on a date?
I told you I'm not going on a date with you, Ted.
unidentified
Yes.
Oh, okay.
tim pool
But like, you know, just let me if you want the police to stand down.
Cause that's, that's kind of cool, right?
It's like, yeah, whatever.
lydia smith
So it's kind of like the high school thing, except it's a chick.
tim pool
I think this dude is desperate.
I mean, listen.
At a certain point, you have to recognize everything you're doing is helping Trump.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's why I'm getting a MAGA vibe.
tim pool
So, to be fair though, the rioters didn't come out last night.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And I think it's because they were going to Kenosha.
Yeah.
The police in Kenosha saw, I guess they saw Riot Kitchen, which is from Seattle, and pulled up.
A van tried fleeing, so they, this is crazy, they went up to the car, they stopped it, drew their guns, smashed the windows, took all the people out and arrested them.
They arrested them on disorderly conduct, which, Sounds kind of BS to me, to be honest.
lydia smith
Because they weren't really doing anything, right?
tim pool
Yeah, they were filling up gas cans.
lydia smith
Yeah, at the time.
tim pool
And it's legal.
lydia smith
It is, yeah.
tim pool
But they had a big bus that said Riot Kitchen on it.
And so I think it's fair to say there's probable cause to stop and detain them, but the disorderly conduct thing was kind of, you've got to be careful, exclusionary rule.
First and foremost, you violate the Fourth Amendment.
I'm not happy about that.
It doesn't matter.
I understand there's rioters coming to your town from out of state, but they've got to be careful because if they do this illegally, then the exclusionary rule is going to negate all the evidence they found, and they found illegal fireworks.
But anyway, Andy Ngo tweeted this out.
He said it was peaceful yesterday, for like the first time in 93 days, like no one really came out, and I think it's because they were heading to Kenosha.
It could also be because the feds have dropped the hammer.
lydia smith
Yeah, it could be a combination of those two.
tim pool
Yeah, if that's the case, then maybe Ted Wheeler got lucky and it was more of the South Park homeless strategy as opposed to policing.
Have you ever seen that episode of South Park?
lydia smith
Possibly, remind me.
tim pool
Okay, so in South Park, there's homeless people slowly showing up in the city, and so Kyle one day gives 20 bucks to one of the homeless guys.
And then the next day there's like a hundred homeless guys in front of his house.
lydia smith
Oh gosh.
tim pool
And so their strategy finally was they got a big armored bus and then started singing a song about how in other cities they'll give you whatever you want.
And then all the homeless people followed after the bus as they were like in the city of Santa Monica.
They're really nice to the homeless.
They'll give you everything you want.
lydia smith
Pied Piper for homeless people.
tim pool
Exactly.
lydia smith
Gotcha.
tim pool
And so the strategy was when you got a big problem in your city and it's causing, you know, serious mayhem, all you got to do is get the people to go to someone else's city.
So Ted Wheeler was like sitting in an office crossing his fingers like, come on, I just need cops to kill somebody in another town and then I'll leave.
lydia smith
That's horrible.
tim pool
I'm only I'm only half kidding.
lydia smith
I could see it.
tim pool
Because their strategy was to have the police stand down and like to prevent escalation.
So you have to recognize that part of them was like counting down the moments till some other police brutality happened and then they'll leave and go somewhere else.
Yeah.
lydia smith
Interesting.
tim pool
So here's what bugs me though.
Yeah, what is that?
lydia smith
Bugs.
Speaking of bugs.
tim pool
Speaking of bugs, there's a bug.
lydia smith
There's a bug.
Nice.
tim pool
I wonder if you can hear that.
unidentified
Probably.
tim pool
What bothers me is like, I don't think Ted Wheeler is intentionally trying to help Trump, but could you imagine if he really was?
lydia smith
I can see it.
tim pool
I would feel manipulated.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
No, the reality is Ted Wheeler is, wow, so desperate to virtue signal to the far left that even after everything's happened and people are calling in C-SPAN in droves, like, I'm quitting the party!
He's like, no, we don't want your help.
We don't want cops to come in here and stop the violence.
We're cool with it.
lydia smith
He's a desperate guy.
tim pool
Yes, he is.
I don't think it'll work out too well for him.
But let me show you this.
Chadwick Moore tweeted something interesting.
New York's population is 50-50 NYC and upstate.
20% of New York City fled and probably won't be voting.
All the conversations I have with inner-city blacks and immigrants point to them voting Trump or not voting at all.
What are the NYGOP groups doing to get out the vote?
Nothing.
New York is in play.
He says New York GOP groups are going to completely miss this opportunity.
Sad.
I love how people do that Trump thing now.
Sad.
Like you add a word at the end of your tweet.
lydia smith
This is designed by Twitter.
You're running out of characters, but you really need to convey one last feeling.
Sad.
tim pool
Yeah, it's almost, it's like not, not enough to put an emoji.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
No, no, it's like a male version of emoji.
Like women put emojis and men, this is true.
Men send emojis to women and women send emojis to men and women, but men rarely send emojis to each other.
lydia smith
Interesting.
tim pool
It's like all very like formal and cordial.
So you don't put a sad face, you put sad.
So like, you just say it.
It's like, I am very sad about this.
I understand you are sad.
Let's carry on, good sir.
Very, very testosterone.
Anyway, he says, the latest polls show Biden is ahead by only five points in New York.
Where is the GOP?
I bring this up to follow up on all that stuff we were just talking about.
The GOP sucks.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
Not doing it.
Like, who did we have on?
Sean Parnell, I think was talking about this.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
People will ask him, like, you know, are you getting support from the party?
And it's like, no.
lydia smith
No?
Well, Brandon Strzok was saying the same thing.
He's like, I haven't really had any support from the Republicans, and I don't know when to expect it, or if to expect it.
tim pool
You know what it says to me?
I think both parties are dead.
Yeah.
And what's happening right now with the Democrats is they have no leader.
And because there's no leadership, the party's broken.
Both parties are broken.
But there is a Trump.
And a Trump is unifying.
If there was no Trump, the party would fracture.
And that's, that's, that's, I think, so, so you, you expect there to be every few years, they find a new leader to guide the party.
And Obama was that for the Democrats for quite some time.
For some reason, he's not right now.
He's still like the most popular Democrat in, even though I, like, I wish people would read the news and they wouldn't think so, but.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
But he's not active.
He's not really, you know, not really doing anything.
He didn't want to endorse Joe Biden.
Then what, Hillary Clinton?
Nah.
lydia smith
Oh gosh, they have no one right now.
tim pool
That's why they're doing Grandpa Joe.
It's the only thing they have that people remember who's still active.
You have the sour look on your face.
lydia smith
Yeah, because he's supposed to be the return to normalcy.
And I know enough about what happened under the Obama administration.
I was watching it.
I was young at the time, but I was like, this is insane.
And I never liked, you know, Democrat policies, but I was like, this is egregious.
Even for a Democrat president.
tim pool
Which part, though?
lydia smith
The bombings.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
lydia smith
All the various bombings from this peaceful, peaceful president.
tim pool
Yeah, that's glorious.
And Trump picked that up.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And I was not happy.
I was like, see, in 2016, I was happy to not have voted for either of them, because Donald Trump picked up the drone strikes, and he picked up the commando raids, and there was a commando raid that killed a little girl, and I was complaining about all of that about Obama, and then Trump did it and I started laughing.
I was laughing when Trump won because he gave comeuppance to the Democrats, and then I was laughing when Trump started carrying out the same tired foreign policy and weapons sales, and I'm like, here we go!
And then all of a sudden Trump started firing these people, and then in the past year or so, past year and a half or so, he's been greatly improving.
lydia smith
Yeah, he's gotten a lot better.
tim pool
I remember when he did the North Korea thing, and that meant a lot to me, seriously.
Because I remember hearing stories about why my family fled Korea, and how they desperately tried to come to the United States, they came to Hawaii, and I was just like, wow, I couldn't imagine.
My great-grandparents, I've never met them, I have no idea what they were thinking, and this was before the split of the country and all this stuff, it was like early 1900s.
And I'm just like, I can't imagine what was happening where they were like, it's time to get out of here and go somewhere better.
And they did.
And then the country's fractured in two, and I remember hearing stories about where my great-grandmother and my great-grandfather were both from, and one was north and one was south.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
And so I was just like, wow, I'll never get to visit that place, probably, unless there's unification.
I've gone to Germany, because I'm also German and Irish.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And so I've gone to Ireland, I've gone to Germany.
And I'm like, this is really cool.
It's really cool to like, like see like where my family's from.
Can't, it can't happen with, you know, what's now North Korea.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
But Donald Trump crossed in the DMZ and I was like, this is awesome.
And the media was like, this is terrible.
I was like, what?
lydia smith
That was so cool.
Cause I was just remembering Obama sitting outside the DMZ with his, uh, DMZ.
tim pool
With his binoculars.
lydia smith
With his binoculars.
And I was like, this is not what Trump is doing.
This is way better.
tim pool
And they, you know, I don't know if Trump's been successful now, especially now that Kim Jong-un is reportedly in a coma.
lydia smith
I don't know either.
tim pool
Using body doubles.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
But I'm like, I respect that he's trying.
You know, now we've got this Middle Eastern peace deal.
Anyway, I'm going off on a tangent because I always fall to foreign policy for a lot of reasons.
But the main issue is Trump has dramatically improved.
And where I've usually said he's not that bad now, but I would be like, he's bad, but he's not that bad.
Now I'm like, he's doing pretty good.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
There's a lot of things he's doing well with and the bombastic nature is kind of toned down.
And so I'm like, he's really starting to get into it.
I can respect this.
And I was mad early on.
But anyway, the main point is, coming off this last little bit here, what is the party itself doing?
Because I don't like the Republican Party.
I don't like the Democratic Party either.
Donald Trump, I like a little bit.
I think he's funny.
He's an entertainer.
I think he's great.
lydia smith
The only thing I liked about watching the RNC last night was President Trump's speech.
That was the best part.
That was the only thing I was really waiting for.
I didn't care what Rudy Giuliani said.
tim pool
I know.
lydia smith
The other thing that I really appreciate... He wasn't that bad, though.
They brought in Ann Dorn, which I hugely valued.
I was like, that's amazing and beautiful.
And I appreciated President Trump talking about the familias.
Family.
How they were like, they had sacrificed so much. It started uh when that speech
tim pool
came I started raining inside the house. Isn't that crazy? I noticed that too. Yeah there's
it was everyone in here was it was like you know it was just raining and uh fog of mist enveloped
lydia smith
the room it was very strange and then it cleared up when Ann stopped talking. But but in all
tim pool
serious touching in all seriousness that story was uh made me angry.
It made me angry and sad.
I don't know if you guys listening heard Ann Dorn speak, but wow.
David Dorn seemed like a rad dude.
Not a Trump supporter apparently, of course not.
lydia smith
Doesn't matter.
tim pool
But it's a story about a guy who, you know, lost his life in these riots trying to protect his friend.
Even at his age, he was a retired police captain, David Dorn.
lydia smith
Yeah, he was retired.
tim pool
Even at his age, he still felt that sense of duty to protect what he cared about.
And some sick monster thought a TV was worth taking his life.
That's sad, man.
And she told the story about how every night, if there was a call to the pawn shop, it was his friend Lee, I think, right?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
That he'd get up and let her know, and this one time, he didn't.
And when she woke up, he was gone.
She got a knock on the door and she didn't know where he had gone.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And why isn't David answering the door?
And then she goes to the door and there it was.
The police had come to let her know.
And it was brutal, man.
And Frank Luntz, who's a famous pollster, tweeted that he said,
everyone around me is crying.
I'm like, yeah, dude, everybody was crying.
But you know, there's something interesting I find about, like,
I don't know if this is universally true, but the things that make little kids...
I've been thinking about what makes men and women cry or not cry.
Because, like, guys don't cry.
They, like, rarely cry.
Yeah.
Like, there was a dude in Kenosha whose family business, you know, his family's legacy, their business was burned down.
He was nearly in tears.
And there are things, you know, guys cry, they do.
But I was reading something that said women cry, I think, like, four times a month and men cry, like, once per month.
lydia smith
Women cry?
Wait, wait.
Women cry four times a month?
tim pool
On average or something like that.
And men cry like once per month.
lydia smith
Oh, I'm like a deeply flawed woman, I'm afraid.
tim pool
Oh yeah, I don't cry at all.
Ever.
lydia smith
I don't cry, I get mad.
What's the point in crying?
tim pool
You know what makes me cry?
Like watching a movie where a dog gets hurt.
unidentified
Yeah, like- And then I'm just like, I don't want a dog!
tim pool
Or animals getting hurt, you know?
Like I can watch movies where people are blowing up and I'm like, yeah, get em!
But like, the dog, it's like, even if the dog's with the bad guy, I'm like, no!
unidentified
Don't do anything wrong!
tim pool
Even though I know, like, the bad guys train the dogs.
No, but I was thinking about this, and I'm like, when I was watching the Aaron Dorn stuff, I was like, definitely fighting back tears, but I was getting really angry.
lydia smith
I was too.
I was like, this should not have happened.
Like, there's no reason.
I hate the senselessness more than anything, and I just pounded the table, sorry.
I hate senselessness.
I really hate people who die for no reason.
I hate unnecessary death and pain.
And to me, that was like the embodiment.
I hate death.
tim pool
Yeah, of course.
All of it.
Every single one.
lydia smith
Well, unfortunately, death is literally the only thing that you... It's a great equalizer, man.
Nobody gets away from it.
So it's like, I don't... At least you can avoid it for a little bit longer.
unidentified
But through science and technology, we will all live forever.
tim pool
I mean maybe at some point, but I was reading something about immortality too that said
people think immortality is bad only because being old sucks.
And that if you were young and vibrant forever, you'd probably just go along with it.
But I digress.
The main issue is, you know, watching the RNC was powerful.
It was powerful.
So to get these C-SPAN callers who are like, I watched the DNC, and what is it?
The guy in a cape dancing?
It was, like, hard cringe.
When Joe Biden's announced he's getting the nomination and, like, they run in the room behind him with, like, party poppers, I was like, what is— Oh, so cringe!
It seriously looked like a high school, like, end-of-year celebration video.
lydia smith
It hurt.
tim pool
Like, made by students.
lydia smith
I wished I was not sober.
tim pool
The RNC was incredible.
lydia smith
Yeah.
So the reason I kind of brought up Ann Dorn was not so much for the emotional side, because I know that people might say that they're kind of using her story to get people on their side.
I thought that the GOP giving her a platform was incredibly impactful.
I thought that was really important.
tim pool
And you know the media went after her.
lydia smith
For what?
tim pool
They said that Ann's family tried stopping her.
lydia smith
Oh, her daughters disagreed.
Yeah.
tim pool
They didn't want her to do it, and it was wrong what she did, and I'm just like, What?
I don't blame the family.
The family wants to have internal conversation about what was right or wrong is fine.
If Anne's daughter is critical, I respect her opinion.
But for the media to weaponize it, because everything Trump does, no matter what, is wrong, it's tiring.
You know, so we have all this violence and destruction.
And Trump's like, I'm going to send out feds to Portland to defend the courthouse.
They're the best feds ever.
They're going to arrest lots of terrorists.
And they're like, Trump's sending out secret police, make it stop!
And then Trump's like, well I never actually did send out Feds to all these various cities.
And then they're like, the anarchy is Trump's fault, it's happening under his watch!
lydia smith
See, they got him coming and going.
tim pool
Yeah, exactly, there's nothing he can do.
And I mean, most of us know it at this point.
And it's funny when I have people like, you know, message me on Facebook, they'll like post, like I'll comment, because you know, part of like all of these posts, I posted the C-SPAN thing, Trump landslide incoming, of course I'm exaggerating, I don't necessarily know it's going to be a landslide, but I was just like, being hyperbolic.
Then I posted the letter from these Iron Range Democrats saying, you know, landslide, here it comes!
And these people take it so seriously, and they're like, you're nuts too, and blah blah blah, and I'm just like, dude, first of all, I'm not necessarily, I'm just like, being silly on Facebook, like, woo, here comes Trump, you can't stop him.
But I think these are signs that Trump is gonna win.
But I don't understand how these people can deny it.
Like, when you have the Union Belt, you know, the Iron Range, all these small Union towns being like, woo, go Trump!
And they're Democrat strongholds for like, you know, for decades.
That says something.
lydia smith
I think what they've got going for them is that they don't want it to be true.
So it doesn't matter if it's true or not.
They don't want it to be.
So gosh darn it, it's not.
And they'll argue with it till they're blue in the face.
tim pool
And you know, this is a good point to bring up, because I look at where we are, and I say this often, like, are we in the bubble?
Are they in the bubble?
Are we both in a bubble?
I don't think we are, because we look at the polls that say Biden's supposed to be winning.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
And so we're literally coming at it from a, hmm, Biden's like on track to win, but I think Trump could win for these reasons.
So when you're either moderate or conservative, you're like, hmm, this is interesting.
I wonder how it'll play out.
unidentified
On the left, they're like, Trump's going to lose no matter what.
tim pool
The economy is terrible, COVID, oh, everyone who died.
And I'm sitting here like, Trump's not responsible for people who died from a pandemic.
Pandemics happen.
lydia smith
And I really do think that people know that the economy being in the state it's in is not his fault.
And if anything, you could blame that on the Democrats more than anything.
tim pool
I'll tell you this, man, this Iron Range thing is huge.
It really is.
Because this is saying several things.
For one, Trump is right on the economy.
And Trump's approval rating on the economy has been above water basically the entire time.
So I look at Trump's job approval rating and I'm like, does that matter?
I look at his favorability, does that matter?
I tell you this man, I met a guy at the airport and he told me he would not invite Trump over for dinner but he's gonna vote for him because that money's good.
You know what that means?
He gets polled and they say, how do you think, how do you feel about Trump?
Oh, he's a low-life scumbag.
Do you think he's doing a good job?
Not really.
Would you vote for him?
Oh yeah, because the money's good.
So he can be doing bad in a lot of ways.
So long as he's making you money.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And that's, that's, that's kind of the thing.
Like I talked about before, like if you could hire a plumber who stank and was foul mouthed, but boy, could he fix that toilet versus a guy who just complained about the other plumber all day and didn't fix the toilet.
And he was clean and proper looking.
I'm going to be like, dude, I like your man.
You clean, you got that great cologne.
It smells great.
But all you do is complain.
And I hired you to fix a toilet.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
Nancy, you hear what Nancy Pelosi's trying to do now?
She wants Trump's tax returns, even if he loses.
unidentified
Why?
lydia smith
I don't understand.
tim pool
Just imagine this.
Donald Trump loses and he, like, gives a concession speech and he's like, Joe Biden ran a heck of a race.
I appreciate it.
You know, I concede.
God bless America.
He walks off stage and then Nancy Pelosi comes running out frantic with her hair all crazy, waving tax returns.
It's like, but Trump left.
lydia smith
No one cares.
tim pool
He's gone.
That's the crazy thing to me because I think we were talking to Ryan Long, the comedian, and he said it would be really, really funny if Biden won just to see what would happen because all of these networks and all these politicians would have nothing anymore because their entire identity is like hating Trump.
If Trump leaves, Nancy Pelosi says she's still going to pull his tax returns.
And I'm just like, I don't care about his tax returns now.
I'm especially not going to care about him when he loses.
lydia smith
The square root of how much I care about it now will be how much I care about it after he's gone.
Are you insane?
tim pool
No, but like, he's not going to be in the office.
Like, how do you justify that?
I don't know.
That is paranoid, delusional insanity, I tell you what.
lydia smith
I'm inclined to agree.
tim pool
Check this out, check this out.
Let me show you some of this, some of this paranoid delusional insanity.
lydia smith
Cool.
tim pool
From Elijah Schaeffer, quote, we're gonna burn that S down.
A peaceful protester in D.C.
shouts, I love how they're doing that, saying he is part of an insurgency group.
He later spread lies that the victims of the Kenosha shooting were kids.
This would be considered criminal inciting a riot in most states.
It would, and it's happened before, and they never get charged for it.
But I assure you, regular people are watching this kind of stuff.
These people are lying outright.
So you know what I have fun doing right now?
I don't know why I do it, but it's the one thing I really like doing.
It's just posting comments on Facebook.
But I post them in very droll kind of ways.
Is that the right word?
Where I'm just kind of like... You know that meme of Bugs Bunny shooting and his eyes are half closed and he's lazily pointing the gun?
That's how I imagine it.
lydia smith
That's how Tim comments.
tim pool
I do, yeah.
Like, I don't go in there like, you know what, man, you're so wrong!
I go in there and I just post, like, really bland, like, half-assed comments.
So, like, people do this big thread, this guy I know, and they're like, can you believe what this, you know, this terrorist kid in Kenosha did?
And then they're all posting this stuff, and I was like, I was like, dang, yo, if only Blake didn't grab that knife.
Like, they just blow up.
lydia smith
Oh, snap.
tim pool
And I'm like, that's it.
That's the fuse.
And I'm not trying to make people lose their minds, but I'm like, there you go.
Have some contrary information that I know you don't care to actually deal with.
lydia smith
Yeah, that is a really interesting approach.
And I kind of like to do that, too, because it's considered a Socratic method.
I don't really go that way, but I'm like, hey, have you thought about this?
Interesting that this happened.
Have you considered this?
tim pool
I could Socratic method that.
lydia smith
You could, this is different from what you do.
tim pool
You know, often when I'm actually, when it's like, if it's someone I don't know, I'll say something like, you know, I think it's really bad this happened, and, you know, I think the kid shouldn't have been out there, but, you know, you need to understand, like, when X, Y, and Z happens, these are, like, natural consequences, and they'll still get mad at you, but I'm talking about, like, some people I know will be, like, my lefty friends or whatever, and I'll just drop in, like, yeah, man, if only Blake didn't try to grab that knife, you know?
I don't even know.
I don't know if he grabbed it or he was trying to put it away.
Like it was in his hand.
They yelled, drop the knife.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
According to a witness.
And the response from them is like, but the cops lie.
And I'm like, the cops lie.
I don't, I don't know.
I don't care.
Like a witness, a witness said it happened.
Like you can't make up whether they lied or they didn't lie.
All we know is here's, here's what they said.
Like a witness said, the guy said, drop the knife.
lydia smith
Well, all we know.
Yeah.
All we know is that the knife was on the floorboard.
tim pool
Why would I make any assumptions?
But now we're basically getting Unity Extremists.
But man, we got a lot to go through still.
Check this out.
This is something that made me laugh a lot.
I'm giving this to all of you as a gift.
I hope you're appreciative of this.
lydia smith
I'm ready.
tim pool
It's a tweet from Joe Walsh.
You guys know Joe Walsh, right?
His Twitter icon is still Walsh 2020.
Whoa.
The dude hasn't changed it yet.
unidentified
What?
lydia smith
That's commitment.
tim pool
But this dude, if you want to see some desperation, you're going to love this.
He tweeted, one last time, Joe Biden, I am a conservative working my ass off to help you win.
You're a good man, but please, sir, get out of your basement, in all caps, by the way, get on a plane and go to Kenosha.
Please lead, comfort, heal.
If you don't, Trump could win.
That's all.
Time for tequila for me.
lydia smith
Got to respect the tequila time.
tim pool
I love this tweet.
You know why?
lydia smith
Why?
tim pool
Because it feels like honest.
lydia smith
Yeah, I think so.
unidentified
Like, Joe, get out of the basement!
tim pool
I'm gonna go get drunk.
lydia smith
Yeah, yes.
tim pool
I hear you, man.
You're losing and your guy is a coward hiding in the basement, so I don't know what else you could expect.
lydia smith
No, I really like it because it starts out sane and reasonable.
One last time, Joe Biden, he explains himself, I'm a conservative working my butt off to help you win.
You're a good man, but please, sir.
And then he gets a little bit insane.
tim pool
And then he snaps.
lydia smith
He gets all caps and then he's going to drink.
unidentified
Get out of the basement!
tim pool
It's time to bring up the story of Kyle Rittenhouse because we do have a little bit more information but for the most part I want to do kind of like a media critique because we have this Twitter thread from a guy named Mark Joseph Stern and I'm going to debunk it because it's like even though he has pictures of evidence about what happened, they just lie.
So kind of, you know, looking at what that kid said.
So we just had that we saw that tweet where this guy and I don't know if he's in D.C.
or whatever.
He said he was part of an insurgency group.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
And that he said a white supremacist killed three kids in Kenosha.
It's like, first of all, the kid was younger than the three felons who died.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
When he thinks when he's thinking of a kid, he's thinking of the guy they were trying to attack.
tim pool
But they don't know anything.
unidentified
Yeah, they don't know.
tim pool
They don't read the news.
But more importantly, I bet that dude didn't care.
He's probably thinking, I'll say it this way, because it'll incite, you know what I mean?
unidentified
Say whatever you want.
tim pool
It'll rile people up.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
Check this out.
Mark Joseph Stern says, and this guy is a writer for Slate, staff writer.
He says, at this moment, conservative media figures are crafting a narrative that black people attempting to disarm a white vigilante who was, one, illegally brandishing an assault weapon, after two, shooting someone in the head, deserve to get shot.
It is racist, and it is sickening.
Okay, first of all, it was white people who got shot.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
This is the weirdest thing to me.
It's like the three people who got shot were all white.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
So why is he trying to say that black people were trying to disarm the kid?
The next thing he brings up is the illegal brandishing of an assault weapon.
When this first came out, they were saying that Kyle Rittenhouse was 17, so he couldn't legally be carrying the weapon.
And then a bunch of actual legal experts were like, actually, there's an exemption for 16 and 17 year olds carrying rifles and shotguns.
End of story.
Oh, that simple.
Will Chamberlain did a thread on it looking at the actual statutes and said, yep, doesn't look like he violated any statutes.
And it seems like that's why the cops didn't care.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
They're like, here's a kid.
He's carrying a rifle.
He's allowed to do it.
End of story.
Of course, this guy doesn't do any work.
And this is very, very, very typical of the modern mainstream media left.
They have no idea what they're talking about.
They just make it up.
lydia smith
They don't even Google stuff.
tim pool
I know.
It's amazing.
Have you guys ever seen that website, Let Me Google That, for you?
Because I would really recommend it.
lydia smith
Oh, you sent it to me once.
tim pool
Yeah, it's an insult.
lydia smith
Yeah, I know.
tim pool
So when someone's like, you know, like, you know, how do I find, you know, the gun shop?
You send them Let Me Google That for you, and then it, like, loads a website where it automatically types it in and then presses Google.
Like, let me Google that for you, you know?
lydia smith
Smarty pants.
tim pool
Here's what he says.
We saw the usual suspects begin developing this narrative yesterday by framing Kyle Rittenhouse's
victims as bloodthirsty assailants rather than rightly frightened civilians trying to
stop him from murdering more people with an assault weapon.
Now it's their party line, Vile.
Let's correct this.
There's actually video earlier in the night where two of the guys, the two guys who died, are threatening the young men who are armed, yelling at them, saying, shoot me, shoot me, and things like that, getting up in their face, and one person actually grabs the vest of one of these, you know, armed young men and pulls him back, clearly trying to retreat from the conflict.
So no, they're wrong.
He says by this morning.
And the New York Times confirms this.
Men trying to disarm Rittenhouse, who crossed state lines in the assault weapon he possessed
illegally, then shot someone in the head, were actually just attacking him, and Rittenhouse
had a right to shoot them too.
And the New York Times confirms this.
They show that Rittenhouse was running away when someone threw a plastic bag of something
at him, and then somebody fired a gun into the air, Rittenhouse turned towards the sound
of the fire, and opened fire, striking one of the men, I believe five times.
Yeah, a lot of people don't know this, five times.
In like, the leg, like two in the leg, one in the groin, one in the side, one in the head.
He shot him five times.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
That's crazy, I didn't know that.
But what you need to understand is, if you chase someone, and they're trying to flee, and then someone fires a gun into the air, they might turn and start shooting in the direction of where the gunshot went off, and that's exactly what happened.
He says, Here's the new narrative.
Using non-lethal force to disarm a vigilante illegally, brandishing an assault weapon, again, not true, who just shot someone in the head, is the real crime, and that vigilante acted in self-defense when he shot the men trying to disarm him.
This is fully delusional.
When you consider that they attacked him first, and then he fired after someone shooting, and they chased after him, he fell, they stomped his head, yes, he was defending himself.
We're not talking about a situation where a crazed maniac was going around killing people.
We're talking about a situation where a young man who is legally As far as we can tell right now, possessing a firearm.
In fact, they haven't charged him with illegal possession.
They've only charged him with homicide.
We'll see if that sticks.
Maybe he will be convicted, I'm just saying.
So, maybe this guy... At any rate, this guy is wrong.
But maybe Kyle Rittenhouse will end up getting convicted in some capacity.
But anyway, it was a legal weapon.
He was acting in self-defense.
That's just a fact.
You can't attack someone and when they defend themselves, now claim it's a whole new instance where they've become a mass shooter who must be disarmed.
lydia smith
Apparently you can.
tim pool
Well, that's what he's doing.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, gaslighting.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
He says, now we're here.
The psychopaths have constructed their narrative.
It's time to promote it.
Disarming a vigilante who's illegally brandishing an assault weapon is the real violence.
You see how he keeps saying that over and over again?
With no evidence.
Because USA Today actually published, it was Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, saying a legal expert said there's an exemption for 17-year-olds.
They also keep saying traveled across state lines, ignoring the fact that the kids from Antioch, Illinois, which is about 20 minutes from Kenosha, and it seems that Kenosha is the biggest city.
If you lived in Antioch and you were like, I want to go to the city, it's probably Kenosha.
It could be Chicago.
lydia smith
Yeah, but that's kind of a long way, right?
tim pool
I think it might be comparable.
Antioch, no, it's probably 45 minutes to an hour maybe.
But Kenosha's like a 20 minute drive.
So if you want to go to a bigger urban center, the kid probably hangs out there all the time.
So crossing state lines, while technically correct, you gotta give it context.
lydia smith
He did hang out there all the time, because as we can see from literal photographs taken earlier in the day, he's cleaning off graffiti.
And he's doing work in the town, like he has friends and family and hangs out there a lot.
tim pool
You know what one of the bigger problems is?
A lot of people pointed out.
He had to run something like 630 feet when they were chasing after him, and he was out of shape.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
A lot of people pointed out he's a little chubby kid, and if he had actually done better training, he would have easily escaped and no one would have lost their lives.
lydia smith
That's too bad.
tim pool
Still not his fault, though.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
You have no legal obligation to be good at running.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
You know, especially, you know, he tripped, so he probably would have been able to get out no problem.
lydia smith
Anyone can trip.
tim pool
I'll tell you what, man.
I don't care.
You know, it's really funny.
How they'll say things like, in the event of a mass shooter, like, hide, barricade, you know, only attack when you absolutely have to.
When you have the situation here, they ran up and tried taking his gun from him.
Did you hear what the, so this is actually, I think this is also from Andy Ngo, he tweeted this, that the guy with the Glock, who ran up to him, apparently told a friend, this is all hearsay by the way, so I'm not saying it's true, it's just, you know, coming out through various sources, reportedly, that the guy said his only regret was not killing the kid.
lydia smith
I did hear that.
tim pool
So there's a few outlets that have reported this because there was a Facebook post by someone who posted a picture with the guy in the hospital and they said, I talked to him, he said his only regret was not killing the kid.
Wow.
Yep, and it's true.
I was curious about that.
The guy who got his bicep blown off was holding a Glock.
lydia smith
Oh yeah.
tim pool
He could have crouched, taken aim, and killed Kyle.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
He didn't do it.
I mean, I'm glad he survived.
I, you know, I think anyone, I don't want any of this conflict, you know what I mean?
Right.
Look, I'll say that Kyle should not have been out there with a weapon, but first, the rioters shouldn't have been out there destroying everything.
So it's like, the first people I'm going to criticize are the people who started everything.
And then after we get through all that, I'll say, leave it to law enforcement.
The problem?
Law enforcement's backing down.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
So what do you do at that point?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
I don't know.
The kid was underage, you know?
So he goes on to say, he says, watch the videos and you'll see what actually happened.
Men were chasing down a dangerous vigilante who just shot someone in the head because the police refused to stop him themselves.
That's not true.
They were chasing down, you know, you could frame it as a dangerous vigilante, but the kid was being chased.
So actually, here's what happened.
According to the Daily Caller, What started the conflict in the first place, the reason why Kyle was running before anyone got shot, is because when these guys were screaming at him, someone tried grabbing his gun.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Yeah, so, I was reading the breakdown from, it's Shelby Tolcott, I believe her name is?
lydia smith
Yeah, they were there.
tim pool
Right.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And she said, the initial conflict started when someone tried grabbing his gun, and then he ran, and they chased after him, and then someone threw something at him, someone fired in the air, he heard the gunshot, turned, and aimed.
And the New York Times reported there were 16 other gunshots.
You know what the real issue here is?
Kyle won.
That's it.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Kyle very, very easily could have been dead in a gun fight with other people.
He apparently only fired, I think, like seven rounds, if you go by what they said.
Sixteen other rounds were fired by someone else, or more than one person.
lydia smith
And we still don't know who fired those.
tim pool
Right.
lydia smith
Interesting.
tim pool
Yep.
So, the real situation, I would say, is, you know what, to be fair?
Conflict.
That's about it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Should people, should anybody be engaging in this kind of stuff?
No.
Should the far left be going out, burning things down, attacking people, bashing old men over the head?
Absolutely not.
And then from this is born conflict, where someone else comes out and says, I've had enough of this.
There you go.
lydia smith
I wish that circumstances weren't such that Kyle felt a need to do this because people are bringing attention to the fact that he was like aspiring to be a policeman and they're holding this against him like tons of young men aren't similarly minded.
They're not like, I want to join the military.
I want to be a policeman.
That's a perfectly normal thing.
I want to be a fireman when I grow up.
Exactly.
tim pool
Yeah, you turned tomato again.
We keep fixing the camera and it keeps, like, breaking.
I think the camera's broken, to be honest.
lydia smith
Yeah, it's possible.
tim pool
Yeah, because we fixed the settings in it, but it's still tomato-fying, Lydia.
lydia smith
Yeah, it's all good.
tim pool
It's you.
It's your fault.
unidentified
It's true.
tim pool
Because other people didn't turn into tomatoes.
Anyway, he goes on to say, Wait, what?
unidentified
Uh-oh!
tim pool
He had to issue a correction.
and you'll see a different narrative.
Violent black men attacked a good-hearted, if overzealous, young white man,
who had no choice but to fight back in self-defense.
Disarming a potential mass shooter while black, it seems, was the real crime here.
lydia smith
Wait, what?
tim pool
Uh-oh! He had to issue a correction. Check this out.
We know at least two of Rittenhouse's victims were white.
They were part of a group of black and white protesters trying to stop him from shooting more people.
The idea that there's no racial dynamic here just because the black protesters avoided Rittenhouse's bullets is absurd.
lydia smith
All right, oops.
I got stuff to say about this.
All right, I'm gonna be tomato lady here.
I don't even care anymore because Okay, first of all, I don't know if you guys have looked at Rittenhouse's information, but he actually is not white as such.
He's labeled as being Hispanic, so that kind of removes their racial- Really?
He is.
And I'm not sure, maybe his mom is Hispanic because his name is very, very white sounding.
I agree.
Yeah.
So, first of all, no.
Second of all, conservative media had people literally on the ground running around with their cell phones out taking pictures of this.
So I am conservative.
I have a bias that way, but if I were to judge based on, well you can judge based on the guy from the New York Times who did this investigative pictorial thing where he goes through and he gives an accurate representation of what actually happened there as well.
He said the exact same thing.
This is not right-wing media.
This is what happened.
Sorry it's late, dude.
tim pool
The media just lies.
lydia smith
And where did he get that it was black dudes?
tim pool
I don't understand this.
He made it up.
Here's what happens.
He's sitting in his room with his eyes... The Bugs Bunny meme, okay?
You've seen the meme of Bugs Bunny?
And he's like, his arms are on the thing, and he pulls out the gun really slowly, and his eyes are half-closed, and he bangs.
That's what it is.
They're sitting there, they've done no research, they have no idea what's going on, and then their boss goes, can you write something up?
And they go, huh?
What, man?
It's like, we need you to write something about the shooting in Kenosha.
unidentified
There was a shooting in Kenosha?
tim pool
Yes, here's some notes about it.
Wow!
And then he puts it down and starts writing.
And then they get it and they're just like, just publish it.
No copy editor, no fact checker.
unidentified
Good to go.
tim pool
See, back in the day before Twitter, we had this thing.
It was called a fact checker.
lydia smith
Oh, what's that?
tim pool
Here's how it used to work.
A journalist would write a story.
They would give it to their editor.
The editor would go through it.
They'd have copy editors for grammatical errors and stuff like that.
And then the fact checker would call the sources to confirm the reporter was telling the truth.
lydia smith
Yeah!
tim pool
Now, what do we get?
Random dude goes on Twitter and spews a bunch of nonsense that he has no idea what happened.
lydia smith
Burps his ideas out onto Twitter.
tim pool
Look at his, he's got a fancy little blue checkmark.
Well, it's actually a white checkmark because I use dark mode, but you know what I mean.
These fancy little checkmark people have done no research, and that's it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You know what's really, really funny about this?
I love this.
I mentioned this in one of my earlier segments.
So, not to toot my own horn, Go on.
My three channels are getting around 90 million views.
Oh!
And we have this story about Ben Shapiro.
I don't know, somewhere.
lydia smith
Oh yeah, we got a bunch of tabs open.
tim pool
We're going to talk about Ben Shapiro and how he owns Facebook.
But in this story from the New York Times, they mention that Ben gets 56 million interactions per month or something.
lydia smith
That's pretty impressive.
tim pool
And it's more than ABC, CBS, NBC, The Washington Post, and New York Times, and NPR combined.
And I'm like, wow, that's a lot.
What does that say that I'm getting 90 million views on all my content?
Is it like double all of those things combined or something?
lydia smith
Sounds like it.
tim pool
So the interesting thing about it, though, and the reason I bring it up again, it's not really it's not to brag, but I do.
I do really appreciate everybody who listens and hangs out because it does mean a lot to me.
But Wikipedia, they only include things if it's written by some guy at a company.
lydia smith
Blue check.
tim pool
Isn't that amazing that this blue check guy can write a fake news op-ed, and they'll consider it reliable and put it in, but then if I say something to 90 million people, they say, well, that's not relevant.
We can't include that in Wikipedia.
Welcome to the future.
They're writing mumbo-jumbo nonsense from people who can't use Google, and I'm not considered reliable.
That's fine.
I don't care if they consider me reliable.
That's fine.
I don't care.
lydia smith
You just want to highlight that discrepancy.
tim pool
I just want to highlight the changing landscape of media.
And Wikipedia is not necessarily a legacy institution.
I mean, it kind of is, but in the sense that it's digital, it's online, right?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
But their whole process is based upon if you have the funding to run a blog, then we'll determine if you're reliable or not.
That makes no sense.
So here I am, and Ben Shapiro as well, substantially more influential than all of these outlets.
And Wikipedia chooses to grab stuff from Slate, where this guy just makes up random garbage.
It's not real.
lydia smith
Well, before I continue, I would like to say that I'm kind of grateful to this guy from Slate, because you can track The fundamental error that he makes in his first tweet, you can track it all the way down through the rest of his tweets and you're like, this is where it's wrong.
You can trace it.
And that's, that's helpful.
Cause it's like, you don't always see that.
Sometimes you'll start at the top of an article and then make a false assumption and you'll get to the end and you're like, holy cow, I didn't know this.
But if you, if you don't go back and you're like, oh gosh, that was wrong.
You won't ever figure it out.
So reading through someone's tweets, it's like, Hey, you know what?
I can see the problem tracking all the way down.
And that's why his conclusion is wrong.
tim pool
I make mistakes sometimes.
I tweeted this article that said that, like, a certain number of dead voters had their votes disqualified.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And then I jumped the gun because I had read it from a different source, and I didn't finish—I read it from a different source, chased it to the principal source, and then said, okay, it's a legit source, and then I tweeted, then who's filling these out?
Then I went back and read it and went, ah, I'm an idiot.
It was the people who filled them out, then died, then got their votes disqualified.
So I issued a correction.
I said I made a mistake on this one, and I'm willing to delete or correct.
Typically what I'll do is I'll correct, because I want to make sure that if anyone clicks the tweet, they see the correction.
Otherwise, if you delete it, people still saw it.
It's a tough call, it really is.
But these people will put up fake news and never bother checking, and they don't care.
And you know what's worse is, they get... Like, there was one instance where I did a video and someone said I was wrong.
They had a smaller YouTube channel.
And I said, well, I don't know if I'm wrong, because I hear what you're saying, so I'll put a link to your video so people can hear what you're saying.
lydia smith
That's good.
Yeah, because I'm like... No compromise.
tim pool
It's more just so... It's more like...
Some of these things are hard to break down.
So I'm willing to put a, you know, a contrarian or a counter point.
If someone thinks that, you know, it depends.
If I think it's like a bad faith attempt, then I just like ignore it.
But for the most part, someone says, you missed this.
I'll be like, Oh, especially on gun stuff.
People say it all the time.
Like, Tim, you're wrong about this.
I'm like, there you go.
I was wrong about that.
lydia smith
I'm no expert.
tim pool
The big issue I think with trusting media is whether or not someone's willing to go, Ooh, I didn't realize I was wrong about that.
Versus someone saying, I don't care.
lydia smith
Isn't it so much more interesting to have a conversation with someone who will pause when you correct them and somebody who's like, you know what?
I didn't think about that.
I got to think about that and I'll get back to you.
That's so much more interesting than someone who just runs you over and is like constantly, I'm right.
You're wrong.
I'm right.
I'm right.
I can't be wrong.
tim pool
The problem with leftist media is that, like, when it comes to podcasts and stuff, they'll say a fact.
Or, I'll put it this way.
Let's say, like, this has happened several times to Joe Rogan.
Someone will say something on his show, and Joe will go, is that true?
I haven't heard that before.
And the guy will be like, oh yeah, X, Y, and Z. And then the media will say, Joe Rogan allows people to say fringe, unhinged, whatever craziness, unchallenged.
And it's like, is Joe supposed to be like, I've never heard that before, therefore you're wrong!
lydia smith
That's horrible, though.
tim pool
It doesn't make sense.
lydia smith
But that's exactly what the media does.
Take something new that no one's ever told them before, and they're like, well, I have a preconceived notion and this doesn't quite fit with it, therefore, it's wrong.
There can be no other solution.
tim pool
And they're posting fake news all the time.
lydia smith
And they're never sorry.
tim pool
Yeah, I know.
lydia smith
And their corrections are at the bottom of the article.
tim pool
You know what I'm thinking?
In like four to eight years, they're gonna be gone.
lydia smith
I think so, too.
tim pool
So I think these big legacy brands are all dying.
I think it's a fact that they're all dying.
But we still see the New York Times increase their digital subscriptions and things like that.
But what I think is happening is, you put it this way, let's say 20 years ago there were 50 million newspaper subscribers.
As the internet emerged, people just started choosing which one they wanted to subscribe to.
50 million becomes 30 million, because many get their news for free.
But of that remaining pool, they're starting to increasingly subscribe to only the New York Times.
From that lens, the New York Times is skyrocketing in growth, and everyone's like, wow, they're doing so well!
While every other news outlet is crumbling around them.
Crumbling down around them.
And so, eventually, it will be that the only news subscribers left are subscribed to the New York Times, and there's five million, and they're cheering at the top of the mountain, and then it'll slowly crumble from there.
People will leave, and eventually there will be nothing left.
lydia smith
Well, I think what we're seeing right now, what we're seeing with the media is kind of what we're seeing with the Democrats.
I feel like they're losing control, they're becoming completely irrelevant, and they know it.
And it hurts.
And it's a little bit like dying from a horrible neurodegenerative disease, because you can feel that something's wrong and you're losing control.
And the only way that you can maintain your own little... Because I have actually seen this with sick people who are starting to lose control.
tim pool
Of their bowels?
lydia smith
They're starting to lose control of all sorts of things and they take control of other things.
They control people.
And then they're like, I have no control in any other part of my life, therefore I'm going to hyper focus on the things that I can control.
And I see that with the slate guy just lying his way through a tweet thread because they know they're irrelevant and they're gonna throw, you know, spaghetti at the wall until it sticks because they're going out.
tim pool
I think a lot of it, too, is... You know the trope about the bully who, like, picks on kids at school, and the kid, like, goes to his house, and it turns out his dad's beating him?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
That's what it is.
These journalists, like, go home to their mom's house, and they're like, their life sucks.
Or they're underpaid, and they're like, my life sucks.
Like, I'm imagining this dude from Slate who wrote this tweet thread.
He, like, goes down to the bodega, and he's like, can I get the roast beef with American and a kaiser bun?
unidentified
Okay.
Oh, okay.
tim pool
And the guy's like, okay, okay.
And he walks over and then he hands him a hero roll with turkey and he goes, but I wanted
roast beef.
unidentified
You get turkey!
tim pool
Oh, okay.
But I ordered roast beef.
You get turkey or nothing!
Okay.
And then he leaves and he's all miserable.
unidentified
Pathetic.
tim pool
And then he goes on Twitter, I hate everyone.
unidentified
Donald Trump is such a loser.
lydia smith
Just because the bodega guy was mean, man.
Come on.
tim pool
Yeah.
It's things like that.
They live in New York.
Their landlord's mean.
Think about why they're all socialists.
The landlord knocks on the door on the 4th and he's like, Yo, Jimmy!
Rent's due!
lydia smith
What's going on?
tim pool
And then he walks out and he's like, Come on, man.
I work at Huffington Post.
They don't pay me that much money, man.
I'm trying as hard as I can.
Hey, sell your TV or get out.
And then he goes and he comes back and he's all like, Stupid landlords.
They're so dumb.
They didn't even do anything anyway.
Landlord, he's got a job.
unidentified
Where's that Karl Marx book?
And then he goes on Twitter, Donald Trump is a fascist.
tim pool
It's the only thing in their life they have control over.
lydia smith
I think you're right.
tim pool
Which brings me to the next little bit of fun we have for tonight.
My friends, we are going on a wild ride.
I imagine some of you may be fans of like, I don't know, James Bond, right?
James Bond movies.
Spy thrillers.
You know movies I like?
The Fast and the Furious movies.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Hobbs and Shaw.
Yeah.
Senseless explosions and like for some reason car thieves are important and the government wants them to like stop terrorism.
lydia smith
And car chases and whatnot.
tim pool
Yeah, I have no idea why the government came to a car thief from Brooklyn or Miami and asked him to stop a terrorist lady with a helicopter and a submarine, but hey man, sometimes these stories are just fun.
But what happens when there's no movie theaters because they're shut down?
You get this.
Cassandra of Troy, now who is this lady?
I don't know, but she wrote, the more I write about this, the more it becomes plain.
If Biden loses, 2020 will be the last remotely free and fair election we have for decades, and certainly my lifetime.
We are in the middle of an autocratic attempt, and it looks so much like Hungary's.
The courts are being packed with loyalists.
Most state legislatures and swing states are gerrymandered beyond belief.
The executive branch is gaining unitary power.
The Department of Justice is blatantly selectively applying the law to favor the autocrat.
IGs are being destroyed.
Oh, there's more.
I'm gonna read it.
How many?
lydia smith
Oh my, Lanta.
tim pool
It's ten.
Ten of these.
lydia smith
Okay.
tim pool
Anyway, to drop the funny accent, the point.
This has got 26,000 retweets.
Because people need James Bond to be real.
lydia smith
They're really bored.
tim pool
They need Trump to walk in the room, holding a cat, stroking it, and Joe Biden to, like, swing down from, like, a cable and go, haha, old chap, time to take you out.
And then, you know, Donald Trump is like, get him, kitty, and the cat's made of gold, and the cat turns into a robot.
They need something exciting because life is boring.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
So they write unhinged, paranoid, delusional trash like this.
Let's read on.
She says, AGs are being replaced.
Congress is no longer a check on corruption, as the Senate has been captured by Trump loyalists.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg is in bad shape.
Ditto Breyer.
Hybrid regimes, competitive authoritarianism are remarkably stable.
This is why 2020 is for all the marbles.
This is why I have no use for people who whinge about Biden-Harris not being far enough left for their tastes.
They are under the mistaken belief that if Biden loses, they will have another chance to elect people that are far enough left for their liking.
The truth is, and here we go, if Biden and Harris lose, there isn't going to be an opportunity to elect someone like they like in their lifetime, not without secession of blue states.
That's the only plausible scenario I can come up with after the autocratic breakthrough.
The people who study autocracy are all singing the same tune.
American democracy is not strong enough to survive another four years.
It's four years, dude!
Come on!
TV shows last longer than that.
The guardrails are already almost completely down.
This is entirely consistent with how others have fallen in the post-Cold War period.
Trump's intentions are clear, so are the GOP's.
While Republicans are fear-mongering the hell out of this election, Democrats refuse to call what is happening what it is for fear of sounding alarmist.
Maybe this helps their chances of election.
But it leaves the vast majority of the American public in the dark as to how incredibly dangerous this moment is.
Especially with QAnon, a group that wants enemies thrown in concentration camps, inexorably capturing the Republican Party, even as it becomes autocratic.
Beware, be warned, or don't.
Because once this election comes and goes, if Donald J. Trump is still president on January 21st, 2021, we're effed.
Democracy in America is not coming back.
unidentified
Dun-dun-dun.
tim pool
Cue the crazy music and the explosions.
And you got yourself a kind of thriller, man.
lydia smith
This is great.
Thrilling.
tim pool
I love it.
She finishes with, in most states your vote no longer matters.
We are rapidly approaching it at a federal level.
You know that you are no longer living in a democracy because the elections in which you are participating no longer can yield political change.
And, um, I don't know, where's the... you know those boxes where they pull the lever like the Wile E. Coyote would use and like it would blow up?
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
The detonation box?
Cue that.
lydia smith
As soon as she finishes like... No, yeah, I'm thinking she took an entire bottle of painkillers after this.
Dude, I would... Holy cow.
tim pool
I got a really good idea.
It would be fun to like make a movie trailer with this.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
Just read this and like... you know how they do the movie trailers where the guy sounds like he's been smoking for 40 years?
unidentified
Gosh.
The more I write about this, the more it becomes plain.
If Biden loses, 2020 will be the last remotely free and fair election we have had for decades.
lydia smith
All right, Alex Jones.
tim pool
I know, I was thinking that.
Like, I should probably read this in Alex Jones' voice.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Except even Jones isn't that engaged.
They're the same people.
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no.
Alex Jones isn't... I mean, he's screaming about other people, but he's not, like, talking about Trump being a dictator.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
The best part about all of this is that this worldview they've crafted is they're building a tower.
Somebody imagine it, right?
It's like Rachel Maddow goes on TV and she's like Donald Trump is a Russian.
When that falls apart, what do they do with that mound of trash they've built for three years?
Listen.
If you built a nice house, you'd love and you'd respect that house, and you'd say, I like this building.
Now, if you built a big pile of trash to stand on, you might not like it like a house, but you're like, hey man, I built this pile of trash.
lydia smith
This is my garbage.
tim pool
It's my garbage.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
Don't touch my garbage.
That possum meme.
Don't touch my garbage!
You know, as much as I'm not really all that interested in the garbage, I can understand why someone, you know, spending three years piling up garbage would be like, I know it's garbage, but I did put a lot into this.
lydia smith
It's exactly like a sunken cost fallacy.
They put all their time into this, and gosh darn it, it is the best garbage in the world.
tim pool
What do we do now?
So here's what ends up happening.
I've built, you know, many of us, those of you watching, we've all built nice little houses of like coherent thought.
Donald Trump has his issues, but for the most part, you know, he's okay.
And he's doing a lot of things that have been traditional in terms of like political parties.
Some people have compared him to like Bill Clinton.
In the good way, not the bad way, like, you know, just general populist policy and stuff.
Although I will say, I think Trump is very, very different from Bill Clinton, but some people have said, like, in terms of where he sits on the political spectrum, it's relatively similar.
And the things he says, you know, are very inviting to regular people.
So we've all built these kind of little huts of coherent thought, but the left is sitting on a big pile of stinky garbage.
They refuse to let go because they've put too much into it, and they keep inviting more people to the stinky garbage.
And they're warning—like, so here's what happens.
You're walking down the street, and there's a fork in the road.
And there's a bunch of nice little-looking huts.
But there's that big ol' pile of garbage.
And there's someone standing at the fork, telling you, go to the garbage pile.
This woman clearly does.
And then she's staring at, like, old, faded cans of, like, Pepsi from the 70s.
And she's reading the ingredients.
And screaming, did you know what's in this?!
And then, like... Actually, I'll do a better example.
With this pile of garbage, you'll have, like, someone find an old, you know, I don't know, a piece of, like, a building, and there's asbestos on it.
And so they start screaming about the asbestos, but nobody's using it anymore, right?
It's gone.
It's been removed.
You know, there's a lot of problems with it.
These people who have built their garbage pile have bad information, things that make no sense.
And the narrative of Russia and all this conspiracy stuff about Trump is just not true.
How insane do you have to be to believe that nationally, out of like, how many, how many political offices are there in this country?
Like five or 7,000?
Oh yeah.
lydia smith
Many, many, many.
tim pool
That they're all being secretly taken over and that Trump controls them all.
lydia smith
This requires a lot of faith.
tim pool
Yeah.
It's nuts.
Even as it goes, when it comes to the Democrats and mail-in voting, I don't think they're all sitting there in a cabal.
But I'll tell you this, I think it's really funny that she brought up QAnon.
Because Q people, not all of, I don't, I think a lot of people who follow Q don't actually read what it's all about.
And so there's a lot of people of a general view of what it means.
Like, you know, Epstein and stuff like that.
Which, like, we know the Epstein stuff is, like, mostly true because victims have come forward and there's, you know, we'll see what happens with that Maxwell lady.
But, like, Bill Clinton has been flight logs, not to the island, But there's like, there's weird stuff.
There's weird stuff around that, right?
So it's like, okay, okay.
But some of these people go nuts.
Like, conspiracies go way too far.
But it's funny that she brings up Q because she's like the other side of that.
You know, Trump-anon or whatever, or Clinton-anon, I don't know, whatever.
lydia smith
TDS lady.
So do you think she realizes that she sounds exactly as deranged?
tim pool
No.
lydia smith
Or more so?
Nope.
tim pool
The reason why she brings up Q is because when she looks across the aisle, that's what she sees.
lydia smith
Yeah.
Because she's on the same level.
tim pool
She's the inversion of it.
lydia smith
Ah, yeah.
unidentified
Got it.
tim pool
So, but think about it.
If the Q people think there's, like, a government cabal conspiracy and, like, trafficking and all this stuff, and she's claiming that Trump is an autocrat who's, like, stacking the courts and, like, going, I work for Russia!
It's just as insane.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
I think Hillary Clinton and her cronyists, like the people around her, they're just crooks.
I think that they've probably been involved in really bad stuff.
I think it's questionable what Bill Clinton was doing with Epstein, and I think there may be something there we'll look into.
But I don't think there's like a grand international Illuminati cabal, like, you know, snatching up kids or anything like that.
I mean, you know, but at least it's based in reality, I suppose.
lydia smith
That would be too easy, too simple, too interesting, too pat.
That makes me think it's not real.
tim pool
Well, I think there's something with Epstein and Clinton, for sure.
lydia smith
Yeah, for sure.
tim pool
And Prince Andrew.
But I think a lot of people probably take that and then immediately assume, like, extreme scenarios.
lydia smith
Like everything else is true.
tim pool
I'll go there.
Look, I think, you know, we know that politicians are creepy weirdos who do drugs and probably do illegal things, like, all the time, for sure.
But to go as insane as this lady, when it's like, listen, I think Hillary Clinton was bad for a lot of reasons.
I think she was very crooked, and I think Joe Biden is crooked.
I think Donald Trump has some questionable things you can criticize him for, but for the most part, it's in the same realm of politics in this country.
And I think Trump does love this country, and I think he is a populist, though he is himself very elite.
I don't think he's all that bad and I think they're extreme in their exaggerations of who he is.
And I think a lot of people are extreme in their exaggerations of who Hillary Clinton is.
Hillary Clinton is a crooked cronyist who played dirty with cash at her foundation and a bunch of other horrifying things and that's corruption at the highest level.
And that's, I'm like, yeah.
lydia smith
That's a thing.
tim pool
What else is new?
lydia smith
Yeah, unfortunately.
tim pool
I don't think she's, like, meeting in the basements with, like, giant owl statues and, like, praying to, like, pentagrams or anything like that.
lydia smith
Again, way too interesting.
tim pool
Yeah, right?
lydia smith
Reality's very boring.
Super often disappointing.
tim pool
I mean, look, you know, that's why I was kind of saying, like, what this lady is saying with this Trump conspiracy, you'd think after all these years they'd let go.
It's just not real.
Trump is not a secret agent.
Trump is not like Kaiser... What was the guy's name?
What was the world... Kaiser Wilhelm?
Not Wilhelm.
I don't know.
No, I'm not thinking of Kaiser Wilhelm.
I'm thinking of that autocratic German dude.
I can't remember his name.
It's on the tip of my tongue.
lydia smith
A little more context, I'm sorry.
tim pool
He's one of the guys who said, it is better that ten innocent people suffer than one guilty person escape.
What was his name?
I don't know.
Everyone's gonna, like, know his name now in a second.
lydia smith
That was Blackstone.
tim pool
No, no, no, Blackstone.
Blackstone was the inverse.
He said it's better that ten innocent, uh, ten guilty people escape than one innocent suffer.
lydia smith
Right, oh, he said innocent people.
Oh, snap.
tim pool
Yeah, so this other guy, I can't remember his name.
Not, not, people are saying Kaiserslautern.
No, no, no, no.
Um, maybe I'm thinking, maybe it wasn't the German guy.
Bismarck.
Bismarck.
There you go.
Who is he?
Am I mixing him up with somebody else?
I think I am.
lydia smith
Anyway, the point is... Otto von Bismarck.
I will look it up.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Where was he?
Because he was the authoritarian guy.
lydia smith
Yeah, he was a decisive figure in European history.
He was taking control over Prussia.
tim pool
Prussia.
There we go.
See, I have no idea what I'm talking about.
But I read something on the internet once.
Yes.
This is why I'm not going to write an article about Bismarck.
I'm going to fact check it first, you know what I mean?
Yeah, absolutely.
And I do this.
Whenever I say something I'm not sure, I'll tell people, make sure you fact check it because I heard this.
I don't know if it's true, but it's interesting nonetheless.
A lot of people just write garbage.
They think Donald Trump is having secret meetings in bunkers with pulling out maps.
And then as soon as Trump walks downstairs, he pulls off a fake flap of skin and there's a mustache.
They think Donald Trump is secretly a dictator trying to take over the world.
lydia smith
They've watched too many movies.
tim pool
Yes.
Donald Trump is like wearing his personality on his sleeve.
lydia smith
They can't accept that.
tim pool
He is a boisterous, egotistical, TV personality, reality TV real estate mogul who loves America, he does international trade deals, and he thought he could do better than everybody else, and he knows people, and he won.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
And he made the economy work really, really well, but he didn't really understand how
government works because he's not a politician.
So he did some things wrong, he hired some bad people, and I think he's starting to figure
out and do a better job.
He's a smart guy.
I think it's crazy when they call him stupid.
You gotta be arrogant beyond all recognition to assume someone like Donald Trump is stupid.
lydia smith
That is insanely wishful thinking, to think that Donald Trump is stupid.
tim pool
Impulsive?
lydia smith
Maybe.
tim pool
Arrogant?
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
I think it's hilarious when they say things like, his unsuccessful business.
Whenever I hear my friend say something like that, I'm like, which one?
And they're like, the one he declared bankruptcy on.
I'm like, okay, first of all, which one?
Second of all, he had like 500 plus businesses and declared bankruptcy like a handful of times.
And bankruptcy doesn't even mean you failed.
It's like debt protection.
So like, which one?
They don't even know, do they?
I once had a bottle of Trump water and a Trump steak.
And they were complaining in the media at that time that the companies were defunct.
And I'm like, Trump's companies, like Trump Magazine and Trump Water, they service his properties.
So they were saying, like, all these things failed, and I'm like, no, he just sells them.
He, like, it's a company.
He makes it, then he sells it to his own company.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
But they're too obsessed with their, like, movie reality world.
And I have to wonder, there are some people on Twitter who are unhinged.
And normally I say that, you know, kind of in an exaggerated tone.
lydia smith
No.
tim pool
Some of these people are literally mentally ill.
Not kidding.
I'm not going to name the specific individuals because I don't want to, you know, I don't want to send people over to these mentally ill profiles.
But there are some Twitter people with hundreds of thousands of followers who are quite literally mentally ill.
lydia smith
To be fair, there are a lot of people on Twitter, and statistically speaking, some of them are likely to be mentally ill, and frankly, Twitter kind of caters to the obsessive-compulsive tendencies and makes people stirred up into a frenzy.
tim pool
Neurodivergent.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
I remember someone recently asked me, what does that mean?
What is neurodivergent?
And I'm like, It is the Tumblr way of saying you are mentally ill.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
Neurodivergent.
unidentified
Yes.
lydia smith
It really just means your brain goes in two different directions.
tim pool
Or it goes in the wrong direction.
lydia smith
Yep.
All of the wrong directions.
tim pool
There are some people who've tweeted, like, really, really crazy things, saying things like, Steve Bannon is gonna be hanged for treason or something.
No joke.
lydia smith
Interesting.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm not gonna name those people.
lydia smith
Again, too many movies.
tim pool
I'm sure everybody knows who I'm talking about right now.
What the heck?
But they're admittedly mentally ill.
What's crazy is Twitter verifies them.
And, listen.
What you gotta understand is that if I come to you and say, um, do you want to go to the park?
And you go, why, what's happening at the park?
I don't know, like, I don't know, someone with like a dog was there.
You'll be like, dogs are cool, but that sounds kind of boring.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
What if I walked in and said, dude, we gotta go to the park, why?
I, I, there's like clowns and like a giraffe came in and then like some dude was juggling knives and those like flamethrowers.
Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what?
Yeah, flamethrowers, dude, come on!
You'd be like, okay, okay, okay, let's go to the park.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Then you go and there's nothing there.
So what's happening is these people on Twitter, some people will be like, Donald Trump today, you know, said he wants to build houses in low-income areas or whatever.
And then you're like, uh-huh, okay, I don't know, whatever, is that news?
Nobody clicks it.
So what do they have to do?
Hitler wants to build homes to force impoverished people into internment.
lydia smith
Oh, oh snap.
tim pool
And then people are like, whoa, and they click it and they go to the article and it's like the housing and development project for the less fortunate.
lydia smith
Wait a second, but you already gave them your click.
tim pool
That's the framing thing they do.
And then women like this, the Cassandra lady who's like, Donald Trump is an autocrat trying to take over and we'll never have an election again.
It's like, whoa, lady, calm down.
I would make a joke about taking some kind of medication, but this is a show with a lot of people and I might get in trouble for doing so, but in a normal private setting, I'd make a ton of jokes about medication.
lydia smith
I probably already made too many jokes.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
Sounds like she's about to go over the edge, poor lady.
tim pool
Here's the funniest thing about it.
Check out this story from The Daily Caller.
Judge orders in Iowa County to invalidate 50,000 absentee ballot requests.
unidentified
Oh.
lydia smith
Huh.
How about that?
tim pool
I just read this and I'm like, it's the exact opposite of everything they're claiming about Trump.
lydia smith
I thought this was all without evidence, Timothy.
tim pool
Why are they invalidating 50,000 absentee ballot requests?
lydia smith
Let's find out.
tim pool
Linn County Auditor Joel Miller issued 140,000 absentee ballots in July that were already pre-filled with voters' personal information, such as their date of birth and, most importantly, voter identification numbers.
According to the AP, Miller said he wanted to make it easy for voters to vote absentee during the pandemic, per the same report.
However, Judge Ian Thornhill ruled that Miller's mailing of the ballots violated a clear directive from Iowa Secretary of State Paul Pate.
who said absentee ballots forms must be blank when sent to voters according to the AP.
Thornhill has ordered Miller to notify voters who received pre-filled out ballot.
Their ballot cannot be processed. Instead, they can either vote in person on election day or
request new absentee ballots. Miller has agreed to send out the new blank forms.
So it's actually not what we thought it was, but it's still kind of fraud.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
The initial fraud, it seemed like, or, you know, impropriety was that people were sending in their requests and getting, you know, getting nuked.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
As it turns out, somebody was trying to send out pre-filled forms to people.
So that seems shady.
lydia smith
Does it seem shady to you?
Because it seems like if he was doing that in good faith, I understand wanting to make voting as easy as possible.
tim pool
No way.
lydia smith
You don't think he was acting in good faith?
tim pool
I don't.
lydia smith
Okay.
tim pool
Because what, so listen, sitting right in front of me, I love pointing to this thing, is a mail-in ballot, not an application, literal ballot that came to my house for someone who does not live here.
What if they filled out that person's personal information, including voter ID number?
lydia smith
We have all their information now?
tim pool
And what would happen if some hokey old dumb lady, you know, she goes to her mailbox, she's like, what's this?
For who?
I can't read it.
And she opens it, wrongly, and then she's looking through it and she's like, who's Jimmy?
unidentified
What's this social security number and bank account information?
Let me just punch this into Amazon and I'm gonna order some books.
tim pool
I'm kidding.
But if they sent out all that pre-filled in information, That's true.
lydia smith
That's, that's a big breach.
tim pool
There's a lot of people probably get mail and just tear it all up without looking at it.
You know, they're like going through bills.
They got a stack and they're stripping things open.
Especially if it's like a married couple and they're like, the mail is just to them.
The kids are moved out.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
They're going to get someone's mail.
They're going to open and be like, John Smith, voter ID number.
unidentified
Whoa.
What, what is this?
tim pool
Now they're going to have their private information.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
So, presumably, you know, we get this ballot sent here because this person used to live here.
That would be the same thing that would happen to them, but they would get access to other information.
They'd have their name and their voter ID number.
I don't know what else would be included in it.
Party affiliation, maybe, or something?
unidentified
I don't know.
lydia smith
I don't think so.
tim pool
Well, that's dirty.
So here's why I bring this one up, because they like to play this game where they're accusing Donald Trump of being the fraudster who's trying to take over the world, or whatever.
And the problems are coming from their demands.
It's been this way the entire time.
You know, Donald Trump has made his mistakes in fighting him, but he's won.
I think about like, Russiagate really is crazy.
The Obamagate stuff, the Russiagate stuff.
So basically, they were accusing Trump of working for the Russians.
They wouldn't stop.
And then Trump made the mistake of saying, can you make it go away?
And then firing Comey.
lydia smith
Can you blame him for wanting it to go away?
tim pool
And he's allowed to fire Comey.
And then they went nuts.
And they were like, screeching.
And they won't stop.
But you know what?
Based on what we were talking about earlier, you know what I think it is?
Our sphere of influence on the internet is growing.
And the establishment sphere of influence is shrinking.
And they're crying and panicking about it.
And there's nothing they can do.
But I tell you, as they drown, they will violently thrash about.
lydia smith
I'm seeing it.
tim pool
And they got, you know, Kitty's got claws, man.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
So if you, I'll tell you this, when you see someone drowning, Don't.
You have to be very careful about how you approach them.
Because they will pull you down, too.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
I'm not an expert, but you go around behind them.
lydia smith
Yeah, I think you come up behind them and grab them.
tim pool
Yeah, and then swim backwards.
But if you go up to them and they grab you, they'll just pull you down and you'll both drown.
lydia smith
Yeah, because they're freaking out.
tim pool
That's what the mainstream media is doing right now.
And that's why all these personalities on Twitter are going like, Trump's a dictator!
And they go home, and they're shaking as they pour wine, and they're like... So much wine.
I'm imagining, like, when I do that wine shaking, I'm imagining it's Alyssa Milano.
She's like, Orange man!
He's orange!
And the orange thing is a real... No, you're laughing, but she actually tweeted... No, I know.
She actually said it.
lydia smith
I know.
He's not sorry that he's orange or whatever.
tim pool
He's not sorry that he's orange.
The funny thing, she tweeted out this big long unhinged thread where she's like, Joe Rogan has three times the viewers that I do!
And I'm like, do you mean like three orders of magnitude?
lydia smith
Yes, that's what she meant.
tim pool
Three times?
No.
lydia smith
I think we have three times listeners, she does.
tim pool
No, we have more than that.
lydia smith
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
We have way more than that.
Dude, she doesn't even chart.
She's not even on any charts.
She probably gets like a hundred downloads.
I'm not even kidding.
Like, I don't think... Well, no, that's not fair.
She does have a few thousand reviews, so, you know, maybe she's getting, I don't know, a few thousand maybe.
But anyway, one of her tweets was, like in all caps, he's orange and it's part of his strategy to be orange and they don't care.
And I'm like, what?
I don't care!
lydia smith
It's part of the brand, it's the orange, come on.
tim pool
He's not, like, he, okay.
You've seen how they try to make him look more orange, right?
lydia smith
Oh yeah.
tim pool
It's the, like, there was one that was really funny where he was literally glowing.
And I'm like, dude, okay, you guys definitely overdid this because the dude's not radioactive.
lydia smith
Was that the one where he was walking towards the plane and his hair was blowing back?
tim pool
No, but that one was bad, like, what?
lydia smith
That was crazy, too.
tim pool
They shopped it.
Yeah, they made him look like a clown.
unidentified
Yeah!
tim pool
So weird.
They, like, desaturated around him.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
No, it was one where, I think it was CNN or something, and he was literally glowing because they upped the saturation too much.
lydia smith
I gotta find it now.
tim pool
And I'm just like, I'm pretty sure Donald Trump's skin isn't radioactive.
Because, like, I don't know what generates an orange glow, but I'm assuming it's some kind of quantum function pertaining to radioactivity.
lydia smith
No one should be glowing.
tim pool
No.
But that's the media, man.
It's funny when you look at, like, CNN's personalities, like Oliver Darcy and Brian Stelter.
Oh, man.
What did Darcy tweet today?
That, like, the right-wing media and Kyle Rittenhouse is a proof of radicalization.
And I'm like, but three months of mass rioting and 30 people dead, that's not radicalization.
lydia smith
Yeah, that wouldn't radicalize anyone.
tim pool
No, but think about it.
It's like, three months, nonstop riots, 30 people dead, crickets.
One guy shows up after three months, two people die, and they're screwed.
Screaming at the top of their lungs.
lydia smith
Fire on fire.
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
Well, my favorite was from Brian Stelter because he was railing about how much I think it was Tucker Carlson makes.
So you want to know what I did?
I did a little Google search.
How much does Brian Stelter make?
You know how much Brian Stelter makes?
unidentified
I do.
tim pool
Tell me.
lydia smith
Exactly how much he was accusing Tucker Carlson.
unidentified
No way.
Yeah.
tim pool
Brian Stelter.
How much is that?
lydia smith
So he was accusing Tucker Carlson.
I think it was Tucker Carlson.
He was saying he makes $10 million a year.
I was like, okay, that seems low, first of all.
Let's see how much Brian Stelter makes.
So Brian Stelter makes $10 million a year.
tim pool
No way.
I don't buy that.
lydia smith
I don't believe it.
I looked it up.
tim pool
No way.
Brian Stelter on CNN's lowest rated show versus the highest rated cable TV news show in history?
lydia smith
Let me see.
tim pool
It's possible.
unidentified
I'll tell you what.
tim pool
Tucker Carlson signed a contract and he probably got a lower number because it was a new show.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
I'll tell you this.
When Tucker renegotiates, he's going to be the highest paid man in television.
lydia smith
Here's an article from CNN.
As Tucker Carlson justifies violence, Fox News is paying him $10 million a year.
unidentified
Wow.
Yeah.
tim pool
But is Brian Stelter really getting $10 million a year?
I don't buy it, man.
lydia smith
I found it.
Google said it.
It's on the internet.
It's true.
tim pool
Maybe, maybe.
I mean, but, you know, CNN's been downsizing.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
That's a lot of money for a Sunday morning show on the news.
Yeah, his show is about the news.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And it's funny because he only ever has on, like, people in his bubble who say the exact same things to each other.
lydia smith
It's like literally listening to echoes.
tim pool
It's like listening to Pokemon.
Yeah.
So it's like if you took like a bunch of Pokemon and all they do is sit in a room and saying their names over and over again, like there's no meaningful conversation.
I guess if you're a Pokemon and you like hearing someone say Pikachu 7,000 times.
That sounds like fun.
But it's really funny when you compare like the style of a lot of these shows on like MSNBC or CNN versus any podcast.
And I mean even small podcasts, where they'll have, like, I don't care, you could take a random, two random people, and have them talk, random off the street.
You know what's a good idea for men in the street?
Take a random guy, and another random guy, and then have them talk about politics.
lydia smith
Yeah, that would be fun.
tim pool
That would be way more interesting and informative than anything those people are doing on Sunday morning, you know, CNN show.
lydia smith
True.
tim pool
They're like, did you see that Donald Trump is a fascist?
I did.
And the right-wing media is lying.
I know, the right-wing media.
Did you see Fox News, what they said?
Fox News did say things.
The dude, Brian Stelter, wrote a book about Fox News.
unidentified
Wow!
lydia smith
You know what I think?
tim pool
That's his world.
lydia smith
I think Brian Stelter wishes he worked for Fox News.
It makes him really sad.
tim pool
It reminds me of that episode of The Simpsons where Homer tries to join the club, but they call it the No Homers Club.
lydia smith
Oh no!
tim pool
And then he's like, but you let in the other Homer!
And they're like, it's the No Homers!
We're allowed to have one!
So it's like, then he joins the Freemasons.
So it's like Brian Stelter sitting outside of Fox News going like, Fox News is so dumb!
They didn't even do anything!
And he's like looking at Fox News in like a tear roll, it's not his cheat.
He's like, I want to go inside Fox News.
He never quite cut it.
No, I don't think the guy ever really wanted to work for Fox News.
I think he was a media reporter for New York Times.
I guess he interviewed me back in the day.
lydia smith
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, for the New York Times.
lydia smith
You guys are the same age.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
So weird.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
lydia smith
He seems like a grandma.
You seem like a skater dude.
tim pool
I know.
lydia smith
You're totally...
tim pool
I gotta say, it may have something to do with the fact that I exercise every day.
Yeah.
And I'm going to go ahead and assume he doesn't.
lydia smith
Yep, that seems safe.
tim pool
He should.
Yep, everybody should.
lydia smith
Absolutely, everybody should.
tim pool
Yeah.
I don't mean that as a dig.
I mean that as, you know, staying fit makes you look younger.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, not only that, but like, I dress like some rando.
lydia smith
You do dress younger.
tim pool
I don't wear a suit or anything.
If I wore a suit, people would be like, who's that strange man?
No, my real criticism is about the fact that they've made a whole show based on just Fox News.
And it's like, listen, I understand I have my biases.
I rag on CNN too.
But I rag on MSNBC and ABC and the New York Times and the Washington Post and the Democrats.
lydia smith
All of them.
tim pool
And if you want to rag on the Republicans, I totally get it.
I'm down.
Like, I think, you know, I have my criticisms of some of the progressive and left-wing pundits on YouTube for sure, but I respect what they do.
They don't like Republicans?
I get it.
I don't like them either, but my focus lies elsewhere.
Yeah.
I don't think the biggest threat to our nation is Donald Trump.
And there are pundits on YouTube who don't think the world is ending either.
I mean, I think we're facing dire straits, don't get me wrong.
I don't think the world is gonna explode and Donald Trump is literally Hitler.
But I think we're gonna face, like, real street violence and chaos and stuff like that.
But there are other left-wing pundits who will just be like, Trump is bad.
We should vote for somebody else because policy reasons.
But you turn on MSNBC and Rachel Maddow's like, Russia is gonna turn off our electricity!
And I'm like, wow, Rachel, that was so deep up your... That's a way out there.
lydia smith
Up your hat.
Yes.
tim pool
You had to pull, reach into that magic hat and pull it out and... Oh, that magic hat.
Pulling random stuff out.
I remember when Donald Trump said that she had blood coming out of her eyes and ears or her whatever, and they turned it into like, you remember that?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And I'm like, dude, he didn't say it.
He stopped himself.
And you don't know what he was going to say out of her eyes and her ears, out of her whatever.
And they turned it into a sexual thing.
Yeah, that's so dumb.
lydia smith
It's all so tiresome.
tim pool
Well, I'm tired.
lydia smith
Let's do Super Chats.
tim pool
Super Chats!
Hey everybody, thanks for hanging out.
We had a lot of fun.
Mostly me just talking, you know, ranting because I've got some kind of compulsive issue.
That's just me.
But if you haven't already, make sure you smash that like button, and special thanks, seriously, for everybody.
You can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, and Parler at TimCast, and you can follow Lydia at Sour Patch Lids.
That's Sour Patch L-Y-D-S on Twitter and Parler.
And make sure to check out my other YouTube channels over at YouTube.com slash TimCast and YouTube.com slash TimCast News.
But we're gonna read your Super Chats, We have a very important one from Noah Roth, who said, Amazing content.
Thanks for all the hard work.
I appreciate it.
It is very important that I praise myself.
No, I'm kidding.
But thank you.
I do appreciate it.
lydia smith
Thanks.
tim pool
Will Smith said, John 14, 6 through 7.
Ooh, do you know this one?
lydia smith
I do not, right offhand.
Let me look it up.
tim pool
He says, Jesus said to him, I am the way and the truth and the life.
No one comes to the father except through me.
If you had known me, you would have known my father also.
From now on, you do know him and have seen him.
Appreciate it.
Maximum K says, hey Tim and Lydia, happy Friday for you two.
I recently saw an article that my county, Orange County CA, just took the county off of the COVID watch list.
There was an article by the OC Register.
P.S.
I would love to see Colean Noir on the show.
lydia smith
And I believe we are... We are going to get him on in the future.
unidentified
Yes.
lydia smith
I believe it.
tim pool
Yeah, so we're doing bookings.
There's a lot of people who are like, I can come immediately, and a lot of people who are like, I am free in the next, you know, three or four weeks.
lydia smith
Yeah.
We'll make it happen.
tim pool
LoneWolf36 says, One to say, I am so proud to be a watcher of your show.
You are doing an incredible service for this country, and you will only grow bigger.
I look forward to it.
Thanks, man.
I gotta stress to everybody, you gotta understand, like, I just broke a million subs.
And a lot of people probably would assume that just getting over a million subscribers, I'm not getting nearly as many views as many other personalities.
I'm getting close to like 90 million per month.
90 million!
I believe that may be like the biggest.
It's like double the Young Turks.
lydia smith
That's bigger than the Daily Wire.
And apparently more than these other networks.
tim pool
Yeah.
Which is impressive.
So that's all you guys.
You guys rock.
Appreciate it.
lydia smith
Thanks guys.
tim pool
Alright, let's see where we are at here.
We got a super chat right here.
TheGamingGinger says, what's with this new Biden ad talking about how Trump's abandoning the U.S.?
I love how the comments are turned off, because it's unhinged.
Donald Trump is like, if anything, you know, you know, if you were to tell me that Donald Trump was abandoning the U.S., I'm going to side-eye you and be like, get out of here.
If you told me that Donald Trump was standing outside of America's window holding a boombox over his head playing a love song, I'd be like, sounds like Trump.
That sounds like Trump.
lydia smith
A little unnecessary, but.
tim pool
Yeah, and he's like throwing rocks at the window.
And you're like, Trump, stop, I'm trying to sleep.
lydia smith
Seriously.
tim pool
Francisco Rodriguez says, I've been watching your content for over a year.
I love your content and objectivity.
Keep it up.
Do you think school choice will affect gerrymandering since property taxes may need to spread across multiple districts to fund successful schools?
That's really interesting.
lydia smith
That is an interesting question.
tim pool
I don't know.
Probably so.
That's a question for Corey DeAngelis.
lydia smith
Yeah.
So fire that hand.
tim pool
choice guy on twitter yeah he knows way better i see someone said i should talk with adam carolla
and if i'm adam school in a fan of him for a for a really long time
but i i don't really follow him for the most part suvain are carlson says was trump born in orange county
I don't think so.
lydia smith
He was born in... Is it because he's orange?
It's a joke!
tim pool
I love that Alyssa Milano tweet where she was really triggered.
She was like, he's orange and it's part of his strategy and they don't care.
Yeah.
I don't... am I supposed to care?
lydia smith
Put down the wine.
I just felt bad for her.
I was like, wow.
tim pool
You ever see the episode of Rick and Morty where Beth shoots Mr. Poopybutthole
and then she goes in the kitchen and she grabs the wine glass and the wine
and she's shaking and crying as she pours it.
I imagine that's how many of these TDS wine moms are like when they see Trump tweet.
They're like, ahhhhhh.
And they're like shaking.
And I'm like, calm down.
lydia smith
Why would you let someone do that to you?
tim pool
I don't know.
lydia smith
Freaks me out.
tim pool
Maybe because life is boring.
lydia smith
Yep.
I think so.
tim pool
Gotta find a hobby, man.
lydia smith
Yep.
You gotta take up crocheting.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
Keep your hands busy.
tim pool
Osirio says, Hey Tim, Steph, and Chat.
First Super Chat.
Been watching since Crowder bought Tim the firearm.
I encourage everyone to look up the Yuri Besmanov about Subversion.
It's dangerous, and I think it's telling.
And we get a lot of Super Chats recommending it, and it is a good recommendation.
And an update on that weapon.
There is a shop fairly far away who has it, and we're getting ready to move.
We're building a new studio.
It's happening.
But it might take a month or so, so I'm talking to a company.
We're gonna have a real studio.
Right now, you know what we have?
We have cameras on tripods, and like, you know.
lydia smith
We have the corner of a room.
tim pool
We have the corner of a room, and like stuff we bought from Best Buy.
lydia smith
But it's very... That's pretty good.
Yeah.
Except my camera.
tim pool
Yes, that keeps turning her into a tomato.
But we're actually getting legit cameras, and a full studio set up, soundboard, like actual equipment.
Here's the craziest thing.
Because we're in the middle of nowhere, we actually have to hire one of these companies to lay ground line.
I roll because that takes so long but we're gonna be in the boonies and we're gonna have a bunch of like I think I think I'm gonna hire people to literally just be barefoot and wear overalls with like red flannel.
lydia smith
That's me.
That's my job.
tim pool
And have a straw like a sheath like a straw in their mouth.
That's a rocking chair.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
With like a shotgun.
And then when people walk up and they're like hi I'm looking for the local town.
Yeah it's back the way it came.
Is it a family guy joke?
I know I'm stealing a family guy joke.
unidentified
Worth it.
tim pool
All right, let's see what we got.
Colin P. says, things I did not expect in 2020.
Elon Musk wrangling, beeping cyborg pigs.
What?
lydia smith
What?
I'm not feeling done up.
tim pool
I don't know what that is.
lydia smith
Sounds amazing.
tim pool
Bom Chu says, I just canceled my Audible account because the three categories in the homepage were racial poetry, racial justice, and the best one, how to raise an anti-racist.
You see, one of the reasons I am going to be voting for Donald Trump is specifically because this guy, what's his name, Ibrahim Kendi?
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
He straight up says in his book, the only way to stop discrimination is more racial discrimination.
And that's number one in human rights on Amazon.
And it's number 13 overall.
White fragility and this are overt racist ideologies.
And they're encouraging our society to do the same.
I'm not a fan.
lydia smith
It's like encouraging alcoholics to drink more.
tim pool
I will take the orange man over the people who want me to hate people based on the color of their skin.
lydia smith
Yeah, there you go.
That's fair.
tim pool
Yeah.
Daniel Ashley says that the Titanic launch was a mostly dry journey for the survivors.
Correct.
No, I love the tweet.
It was a Titanic journey, Titanic first voyage mostly successful.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
Indeed it was.
Indeed.
You know, it's really crazy if you think about it though.
The people of the Titanic had a really, really good time.
Probably the best times of their lives until, you know, I'm not saying that to be, like, silly or to be dark.
I'm like, no, think about it.
Like, you could be on a plane, smiling as you're going for your first trip to Japan or whatever, and then all of a sudden the plane blows up.
lydia smith
That would make it, by necessity, the finest time of your life.
Because it is the final event of your life, I think.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's fair, though.
tim pool
I wonder, is it better to go that way?
Or to be, like, sad and suffering?
lydia smith
No, I think so.
I think that was a good way to go.
tim pool
There you go.
lydia smith
I wouldn't complain about that.
tim pool
Commander232 says, well Tim, just so you know, these BLM quote, protesters, now plan to try and start crap here in Fargo, North Dakota.
And what has me most worried is, if you thought Kenosha with Kyle was bad, us here won't play any games from the start.
I mean, it's been said, man.
These people are going to show up to some town, and there's going to be a bunch of dudes with guns, and they're not going to say it's back the way it came.
They're going to be like, ooh, look, here they come!
lydia smith
This is your final destination.
unidentified
Or depending on which kind of gun they have.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
Considering that all the ammo is sold out.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Garfunkel, Kat, and the Parliament Funkadelic says, Tim, as a former political activist in Minnesota, the Iron Range was legendary in Minnesota politics as being unbreakably and generationally DFL.
This is a port end of a huge political upheaval.
This is what's really interesting.
The first thing we talked about was the Iron Range in Minnesota.
It's the largest Democrat stronghold in Minnesota.
But it's Democratic farmer labor.
That's not even the Democratic Party.
It's like strongly this very specific party that is a part of the Democratic Party.
lydia smith
Yeah, it's something a little different and I had never heard of it before like a couple weeks ago because there was that guy, remember that guy who was on a residential street screaming at people?
tim pool
No.
lydia smith
He was a black guy, he was yelling at a white family, they were having a cookout in front of their garage.
I don't remember that.
He was a member of the DFL and I was like, what the heck is a DFL?
unidentified
Really?
Yeah.
lydia smith
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he ended up apologizing and everything was fine but I was like, wow, I'd never heard of that party before.
Turns out they are not, uh, insubstantial.
Who knew?
tim pool
Scott Young says, I was staying at a hotel in VA last night and the RNC on PBS was blacked out in my area.
What?
That's weird.
Justin Four says, Coroner's report shows five gunshot wounds to the first Kenosha attacker.
Three shots were superficial.
One was possibly lethal.
The shot, which pierced both lung and liver, came from behind the attacker and hit him in the back.
unidentified
Whoa!
Whoa.
tim pool
That's interesting stuff.
Well, I'll be looking into that definitely for tomorrow.
Christopher Weibel, massive super chat.
Seriously, thank you so much.
That's big.
John Xiao says, or is it pronounced scow?
I did the impossible.
I am done with the NBA.
That has been my number one go-to for anti-stress, but after all the crap they've pulled, I am done.
I'm sorry to hear it, man.
I feel for you, man.
You know what's really crazy?
I follow a bunch of pro skateboarders.
Some of them are woke.
Some of them are not woke.
Some of them are straight up queuing on.
And I'm like, whoa!
lydia smith
Quite the spectrum there.
tim pool
Yeah, but I saw somebody, this amateur skater posted a bunch of Instagram stories about Bill Clinton.
I wouldn't call it all the way into the Q territory stuff, but it was talking about Epstein.
And they were like, I'm done with this.
lydia smith
Wow.
tim pool
A lot of people I hear that are supporting Trump are doing it.
So there's somebody I know from the Midwest.
And they were very like green party, third party type, you know, not really super interested in the two party system and very activist-y.
Now they're posting a ton of stuff about supporting Trump specifically because they've seen him targeting human trafficking and it's one of his agenda items for a second term.
lydia smith
Yeah, and you know what?
They just found 39 kids who had been missing, some for as long as two years, some as young as three years old.
They found 39 kids.
It should have been front page news everywhere.
tim pool
It's crazy that the media is trying to claim that Trump trying to stop traffickers is him, you know, dog whistling to QAnon.
And I'm like, what?
He's trying to save kids!
Are you joking?
They're posting the tweets and they're like, clearly he's trying to wink wink at the Q people.
It's like, no, it's the other way around actually.
Trump has been steadfast on ending human trafficking and that attracted the Q people.
lydia smith
Right.
People who really care about them.
tim pool
Oh man, it's just, you know.
lydia smith
That makes me mad.
tim pool
Jack Daw says, you should get a hold of a prominent YouTuber, Louis Rossman.
He lives and runs a business in Manhattan.
He's been putting up a lot of videos about the firsthand experience of the violence in the streets and destruction of the economy around him.
Interesting.
Yeah, I'm voting for Trump, though.
Look, the big issue to me for the most part with this election is that the Democrats have been overrun or adopted far-left identitarianism.
And I know exactly what that means.
Not gonna happen on my watch.
I mean, I'll do my best, but, you know.
MG says, I'm not voting racist blue, I'm not voting do-nothing red, I'm voting get the job done, make America great, Trump gold.
That's it.
Trump is not a Republican.
He was an insurgent, just like Bernie Sanders.
Sanders knew his only path to winning was to go through the Democratic Party.
Trump knew his only path to winning was to go through the Republican Party.
I think the reason Donald Trump didn't run as a Democrat is because Democrats wouldn't elect a billionaire.
Republicans wouldn't, in terms of nominating.
But Donald Trump was a moderate, and even Vox said so.
Trump got in.
He opposed a ton of what Republicans wanted, creating the Never Trumpers.
They were complaining.
They're elite cronies.
So the reality is, you say Trump gold, but I hear you.
Whatever the color is, he's not Republican Red.
He's not Democrat Blue.
He's something totally different.
And there's a small handful of Republicans in the Republican Party who are whatever, you know.
I mean, the media pundits even call it Trumpism.
unidentified
Yeah?
tim pool
Not Republicanism.
lydia smith
It is different.
tim pool
Yeah, they hate it.
Remember they made populist a dirty word?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
They were like, the problem with populist.
And it's like, are you trying to argue that elitism is better?
lydia smith
Yeah.
unidentified
No, no, no.
lydia smith
There's not a whole lot of room there.
tim pool
Meritocracy is fine, and with meritocracy you'll see wealthier people and more prominent people in prominent roles, but elitism is this idea that people who are simply rich for whatever reason are the ones who are going to be in charge.
Nah, I'm sorry, I'm not into that.
Like I said, if you tell me that the Iron Range, this prominent Democrat union area is endorsing Trump, and then you tell me that the cronies from the government are endorsing Biden, I know which side I'm on.
It's not the government cronies, man.
It's gonna be union workers.
lydia smith
Well, you're not outside of the deep state, Tim.
tim pool
But when did the left decide I'm gonna be opposed to the union workers?
That is insane.
That's crazy.
lydia smith
I don't know.
tim pool
You get a bunch of intelligence agents guys and they're like, yep, that represents me.
Dude, the people who live humble lives and work, like, regular jobs and are union members, long-standing Democrats, wow.
lydia smith
People whose grandparents used to work in mines, man.
Care more about those people.
tim pool
Nick Ellie says, I acknowledge that Tim is a liberal, but I think Lydia said it best several weeks ago.
If you're a conservative, conserve things.
Right now what needs conserving is liberalism, which I think makes Tim a conservative liberal.
Actually, I think, uh, Actually, yeah, maybe that makes sense.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But not in the sense of like conserving things.
In the sense that whatever liberal is supposed to represent, I am like on the left, but for liberals, I'm closer to the right because I'm actually in the middle.
You know what I'm saying?
lydia smith
You'd like to keep actual liberalism.
tim pool
Oh yeah.
Actual liberalism is classical and social liberalism.
And the big difference, it's basically a center-right and a center-left position.
They mostly get along with each other on, like, everything.
They have minor arguments about, like, government policy.
Now you have classical liberalism, social liberals are just, like, hiding in the corner, I guess, and the far left.
Most conservatives are probably, in many ways, very classically liberal.
lydia smith
Oh, definitely.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
Yeah, because they care about freedom.
And they would like to conserve some of those ideas.
tim pool
Right.
Liberalism, in the truest sense of the word, is individuality, the consent of the governed, and things like that.
And conservatives absolutely protect those values.
More so than they did a while ago, too, for sure.
lydia smith
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
They've gotten a lot more liberal in some ways.
tim pool
Definitely.
All right, we got a ton of superchats.
Man, we got too many superchats.
Oh, man.
lydia smith
Thank you, guys.
tim pool
Grim Pickens says, who cares if he crossed state lines?
Sure, different state laws.
But it's not like he went to Canada.
A citizen's outrage about current events is valid regardless of where they live.
Want to support a community?
Go do it.
Who cares where you're from?
I mean, sure, but the left is arguing that for their rioting.
They're like, I'm from Seattle, but I'm going to go to Wisconsin.
And I'm like, no, no, no.
You don't bring that stuff into my home, OK?
However, this kid lived like 20 minutes outside of Kenosha.
You're not getting me with that state line stuff.
It's like, dude, he hung out there.
It's his area.
lydia smith
Either we enforce it for everyone, and no one should be crossing any state lines to do anything in other cities, or it doesn't matter at all.
tim pool
We're literally in a suburb of Philadelphia.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Because Philadelphia borders the river, and then once you cross the river, you're in New Jersey.
How absurd would it be if it was like, Tim Pool crossed state lines to go gamble?
It's like, well yeah, the casino's right there.
It's a 10 minute drive.
What are you talking about?
I live here.
But it is across state lines.
lydia smith
Technically correct.
tim pool
It's really funny.
So I'll let most of you know the big secret.
We didn't do the show yesterday and I thought it'd be easier just to be like, one of the reasons we were like, we don't want to do the show was very simply, Trump was going to be giving a speech and I was like, maybe it's actually a bit reckless because this is a very important thing we should be watching.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And then serendipitously, I cracked a tooth.
And I was like, and then I rushed to the dentist and I totally, I totally, uh, it all got taken care of.
But the funny thing is they asked me on the phone if I've left the state because of COVID.
They were like, you're going to come in.
We can take care of you.
You'll be done in half an hour.
I'm like, awesome.
And they, you know, everything was taken care of pretty easily.
It wasn't a big deal, but they were like, have you left the state at all in the past, you know, two weeks?
And I was like, no.
And they're like, okay.
And I was like, I just started thinking about it.
lydia smith
I'm like, wait, yeah, I did.
tim pool
No, but, but what if, what if I just hopped over the river?
lydia smith
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I was like, we live right here.
It's like, if I was like, yeah, I went to Philly for a cheesesteak.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
What if you had?
lydia smith
I don't know.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's weird, isn't it?
lydia smith
That is really weird.
We're just too close to other states here.
These states are too small.
tim pool
Yeah, Delaware's not far away.
Oh, here's Odin.
Oh, Odin.
Thank you.
lydia smith
Snap.
tim pool
The Allfather says.
lydia smith
Oh, thank you.
tim pool
Actually, it says Odin the Almighty.
Greetings from Norway.
Keep up the good work.
Appreciate it.
lydia smith
Very cool.
tim pool
Let's see.
VillaMusicDude says, you mentioned Rochester and how that couple was attacked at the fire supply store.
I used to live right down the street.
The city was doing so well.
The riot and violence I saw disgusted me.
I feared for my mom and aunt's safety.
Yeah, man.
Nick Gando says, watch Coleen Noir's response to Rittenhouse.
unidentified
Will do.
tim pool
Coleen's great.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Zane Carpenter says, y'all are awesome.
Keep it up.
Much love from a small town called Gloucester, VA.
Very cool.
Thank you.
So Polchi says, have you guys seen Neuralink demo today?
No.
lydia smith
That's the pig they were talking about.
tim pool
Really?
lydia smith
Yeah, they implanted Neuralink in a pig.
tim pool
And then he controlled it?
lydia smith
I don't know.
tim pool
You ever seen the movie Gamer?
lydia smith
I think we have.
tim pool
Where Michael C. Hall has like the nanobots that go in people's brains and then he takes over their bodies and like there's a really cool scene where he like does this puppet dance and he makes them all do it too.
lydia smith
Oh, interesting.
tim pool
Like, I don't want Elon Musk to be, like, laughing, and then going like, and then doing it with his fingers, and I'm like, I can't help it!
I'm doing, like, Elon Musk!
lydia smith
The future.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
The YMCA.
tim pool
No, that's the E and the M. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he makes me, he makes me do the Elon Musk.
unidentified
Oh, I see.
lydia smith
I got it now.
tim pool
Yeah, he starts puppet controlling me.
lydia smith
This makes sense.
tim pool
I don't want to put it, like, could you, you know why I would not?
If, imagine if they put Neuralink in your brain.
Dude, come on.
I mean, I like the idea, but think about it.
lydia smith
It's nice in principle.
tim pool
What if China, like, hacked your brain?
lydia smith
Yep.
It's gonna be easy.
No thanks.
unidentified
Dude.
tim pool
You know what'd be crazy?
lydia smith
What?
tim pool
Like, Neuralink becomes a normal thing across the world, and then warfare is like, some, like, criminal comes in and, like, hacks some virus into your brain, and then everyone starts experiencing crazy, nightmarish zombie attacks.
And, like, you walk in ten minutes later, and they're all on the ground screaming and, like, bashing their heads on the walls.
Like Kingsmen?
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't know if the Neuralink can actually do anything like that.
But if it got to that point where they could make you, like, see and hear things?
Nah, I'm not into that.
lydia smith
You wanna see someone commit a crime that didn't actually happen?
tim pool
But I guess the general idea of the Neuralink is a port, though, right?
lydia smith
I don't know.
tim pool
Not wireless?
Is it wireless?
I don't think it's wireless, is it?
lydia smith
I gotta look at it.
I gotta see this demo they just did with this thing.
tim pool
If it was like a port to your brain and you could click something in and you could remove it, that would probably be acceptable, you know?
Because I wouldn't want any wireless node where I'm like, all of a sudden Elon Musk is sending like, you know, anime cat girls into my brain.
I'd be like, no Elon, no!
unidentified
What's happening?
tim pool
They're everywhere and they're meowing at me!
But they're people!
And cartoons!
Some people might like it, you know?
lydia smith
Nope, nope.
tim pool
Nicodemus says, if you didn't see the Neuralink demo, the synopsis is that Elon Musk demoed an implantable computer that requires a robot brain surgeon that takes a little under an hour to complete.
Oh, and the pigs with, without, and with recently removed implants.
Wow.
I gotta check that out.
That sounds pretty cool.
The future is now.
Let's see.
Jay Smith says, Tim, I find it humorous, ironic that these people preach anti-racism, yet make fun of orange skin.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
How racist is that?
That's colorism.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah, that's right.
tim pool
They do.
They call it colorism.
lydia smith
Not the right shade.
tim pool
They are colorists for mocking Trump for being orange.
Hey, you leave the orange man alone.
lydia smith
That's right.
He's one of a kind.
tim pool
Well, Trump did choose to be orange, though, to be honest.
lydia smith
Yeah, well, OK.
tim pool
He chose to be orange.
lydia smith
I mean, Sean King comes to mind.
tim pool
Let's see, Matt Graham says, I love the show, especially when Tomato Lydia is the guest.
I'd like to give a shout out to Yerjee's BBQ in Indiana.
Their owner denied the governor's mandated mask order and called it tyranny.
His business was shut down today.
Man, that's messed up.
BigMacAttack says, Tim, you're describing Ghost in the Shell.
Neuralink is like the precursor to the solid-state brains.
Yes.
I watched Ghost in the Shell.
You know what Ghost in the Shell is?
lydia smith
Kind of.
tim pool
It's like in the future, people have cyberized brains.
And there's like... I mean, one of the really... It's really, really cool.
There's a character called the Laughing Man.
And when people look at him, their brains are hacked.
And the only thing they see is this image of a smiling face with a baseball cap.
And there's words spinning around it that say, what I thought I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those deaf mutes.
And it's a quote from Catcher in the Rye.
lydia smith
Oh, creepy.
tim pool
I think Catcher in the Rye.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's really cool.
The show's amazing.
Yeah.
And people have prosthetic bodies where they're like, their ghost gets implanted in other bodies and stuff.
lydia smith
I would like that.
I'll just upgrade.
tim pool
Giant mech robot, like Mecha Nixon from Futurama.
lydia smith
Yep, yep.
tim pool
Mecha Nixon.
lydia smith
Oh, Futurama.
tim pool
Let's see here.
Mahi Mahi says, Tim, the Neuralink is ghost in the shell.
The good one.
That'd be cool, man.
I like it.
Josh Nelson says, from Northwest Maine, it's very red up here, 65% of our population live in Duluth and, oh, Minnesota, sorry, not Maine, from Northwest Minnesota.
It's very red up here, 65% of our population live in Duluth and Minneapolis, so they kinda control our vote.
Really hoping we can swing red for the first time since Reagan.
I think so, man.
I really do think so.
Digital Shokunin says, Colleen Noir just posted an amazing take on the legal aspects of Kyle's situation.
I'll check it out.
Supercharged says, hey Tim, did you see CNN change the lower thirds that described the Wisconsin riots from violent protests to protests?
They pointed it out on Daily Wire.
Yup, I saw that.
lydia smith
I did, I watched it happen.
tim pool
So cringe!
I can imagine them coming in, like the intern who typed it up, they're like, no, no, get rid of violent!
We like those people, we're on their side.
lydia smith
They're like, okay, we'll just roll it back.
tim pool
And then put it right back.
lydia smith
Oh, there it is, it's gone.
tim pool
So dumb.
lydia smith
Magic.
tim pool
Internet Veteran says you are a liberal, center-right Republican with populist leanings.
I'm actually... Well, on the political compass, I'm actually very left.
Like, pretty far left.
But I think what unites me for the most part with conservatives is liberty.
Right now, at least.
I'm not saying conservatives were always the same.
I think they changed, but...
For the most part, I'm like, so long as you believe in free speech, free expression, and all that stuff, I'm down.
The bigger issue for me is that I think, idealistically, I'm all about left libertarianism, but this can't work at a grand scale.
So I move towards the center, towards liberal, where you have more government authority and more government control, and the cat's yelling at us.
Most of you might not know this, but Bucko, the cat, you might be able to hear him yelling, When we do the show too long, no joke, because we normally end at 10, he starts yelling because he knows this is cookie time.
lydia smith
It is cookie time.
And he joins me.
tim pool
When the show is over, you know, he's normally like, oh, there they are.
So now we've we've gone six minutes over.
lydia smith
He's yelling.
tim pool
He's yelling.
lydia smith
He is punctual.
tim pool
Look at his face.
You guys can't see it, but he's complaining.
lydia smith
Give me cookies!
tim pool
Thomas Lordo says, former NFL linebacker Brian Urlacher is getting slammed for essentially telling NBA players to shut up and dribble.
The weirdest thing about that is still that he has hair plugs now.
And you know, you bring that up, but in Chicago, he totally embraced it.
There's ads, billboards everywhere for him.
He was really proud of it.
Yeah, there's like billboards everywhere.
This was a while ago.
I don't know if they're still doing it.
lydia smith
Embrace it, man.
tim pool
But you know what?
Look, do your job.
If you don't want to do your job, I get it.
I just think it's ridiculous that, uh... Oh, now he's hitting me.
unidentified
He's mad.
tim pool
He's yelling.
lydia smith
Yeah, he's smacking me around over here.
tim pool
He's mad.
Bucko... Buck... So, for those that don't know, Bucko is the cat, and he was named by my friend Emily for Jordan Peterson.
I don't... Just because it was funny.
Yeah.
Ow!
You clawed me!
lydia smith
Oh no!
He needs his cookies.
unidentified
Yikes.
lydia smith
Sorry, they're upstairs.
Otherwise, I'd totally grab them.
tim pool
Alright, we'll just read a couple more because the cat's literally clawing me.
Frank the God says, Great show, Tim and Lids.
Trump was reserved but had some zingers.
How can Joe be the light when his party can't keep the lights on?
Yeah, and he had something funny.
Oh, he keeps clawing me.
He's mad.
He's like, give me food!
He said, if I say protesters your ass, I don't talk about my ass.
That was funny.
lydia smith
But you just did.
tim pool
Yeah, he did.
IK says, Tim, I live in California.
I recently got a notice regarding November elections.
It might interest you.
Where can I send it just so it doesn't get lost in Twitter sphere and in DMs?
Spintheufo at gmail.com.
lydia smith
Correct.
tim pool
There you go.
Even though we're not really spinning the UFO anymore.
lydia smith
We are not.
Oh, man.
tim pool
But I will spin it.
lydia smith
Yes.
Thank you.
Yeah, I check out pretty much every day.
I go through.
I don't respond to many people.
I do as many as I can.
tim pool
Well, I'll tell you what.
We have gone a few minutes over, and because I'm being clawed mercilessly by the cat who's complaining because he wants to eat, make sure you follow me on Twitter, Instagram, and Parler at Timcast.
You can follow Lydia at Sour Patch Lids.
L-Y-D-S.
Sour Patch L-Y-D-S.
I spell the Y out because otherwise people will put L-I-D-S or something.
And make sure you check out my other channels, YouTube.com slash TimCast and YouTube.com slash TimCastNews.
I have three channels, by the way.
So you can check them out.
And thanks for hanging out.
This was a fun day.
A lot of people showed up.
We had a great time.
We complained a lot, had a good conversation.
And we will be back Monday.
Kimberly Klesik will be here.
Dude, she's awesome.
I don't know if you guys saw her ad, but she roasted the Democrats for running all of these cities for decades and failing.
And it's a really good point because, look, you can be respectful to Democrats and say, I appreciate you tried, but you failed, and it's time to make a change.
And so I think she did a great ad.
It's got like 12 million views or something.
Yeah, seriously.
There he goes.
OK, we're going to sign off.
Thanks for hanging out, everybody, before the cat freaks out.
And we will see you all Monday at 8 p.m.
But we will have clips up tomorrow throughout the day.
Adios, everyone.
Export Selection