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Aug. 27, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - NBA And MLB Get WOKE Go Broke, Cancel Games For BLM, Ryan Long Comedy Joins
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tim pool
I didn't believe it was real.
You may have seen the segment I did on this.
I did not believe it was real.
The NBA did... I can't even do this.
It's so difficult for me.
We got Ryan Long here.
ryan long
Just happy to be the debut comedian on the TimCast.
To all my fans out there watching right now, thank you for supporting me as the first comedian.
tim pool
Absolutely, absolutely.
So I'm glad you're here because this is what I'm struggling with.
There's an article from Yahoo.
Okay, the big news right now is the NBA is boycotting a bunch of games because they're traumatized from watching this video of this guy who, you know, he got shot by the cops and stuff.
So I can understand people, you know, unhappy with it.
How it affects the NBA, they're apparently saying that they're not in the right frame of mind to be able to play games right now.
And so now we got Major League Baseball, like, they're canceling their games too.
Because people are upset and they're traumatized over this.
But the craziest thing about this article is that the whole thing reads like it's satire.
For one, that these people are traumatized over this online... Like, look, I get people are mad, but whoa, come on, man.
And then that they would buy Teslas to try and hide from the police so they don't get pulled over.
The whole thing just reads like it's fake news.
But this is real!
It's real!
The NBA's ratings are down, they're boycotting, and everyone's laughing at them.
So anyway, considering the news was particularly absurd today, I thought it'd be great to have Ryan Long on, because you're a comedian, right?
ryan long
Yeah, dude, I love the fact that they go, you know, a lot of these guys, they try to get Teslas so people will think they're white.
I like the idea of the black guys are like, you know, we just wanted the cops to think we're white, so I've shortened my penis.
We're doing all sorts of things to let people know.
We have Blink-182 blasting in our Teslas.
tim pool
Blink-182?
Is that like Nickelback?
I don't know.
What's a very white person kind of band?
ryan long
Hello, officer.
I never made it as a wise man.
tim pool
The cop walked up to the Tesla and he's blasting Nickelback and the cop goes, he stops halfway and goes, I made a mistake.
It's funny.
You're making some jokes.
ryan long
It's literally in the article.
We're going to read it.
It's ridiculous, and we're going to talk about what's going on.
11 transistor cranking out.
tim pool
I it's it's it's it's it's funny.
You're making some jokes.
It's literally in the article.
We're going to read it is ridiculous and we're going to talk about what's going on.
And we've got we've got some other news.
But for the most part, we're going to hang out with Ryan.
I figured you'd you.
So for those that are familiar, you did a bunch of you.
I mean, you got a bunch of comedy sketches and they're all hilarious.
ryan long
Thank you.
tim pool
So for those that are, you probably have seen it, because it's probably got like, what, the 20 million views combined.
ryan long
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Woke and racist.
ryan long
That one, yeah.
You know what, it's hard to tell, as you know, because everyone like rips your content.
The one yesterday, I did this stock market one and it was like number one on Reddit, but instead of someone putting a video up, they just ripped it and put it up themselves.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's how it works, man.
ryan long
Scumbags out there.
We got no respect.
tim pool
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We're live every Monday through Friday at 8pm.
But you know, it's been crazy.
I wake up this morning and I see some of the most brutal and gruesome videos I've ever seen.
Or at least, not ever, but I've seen in these riots.
So this is some of the stuff that we were briefly talking about before we started the show.
I'm just like, man, this stuff in Kenosha.
And you made a bunch of, you made a couple, I can't remember exactly what you said, but they were really funny and offensive pertaining to just like riots and stuff.
But I'm like, no, no, it's a good thing.
It's a good thing.
Cause, cause we're going to talk about dark stuff, I guess.
ryan long
Tim was saying the N word off camera.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh, no.
ryan long
I just said listen.
It's going to be that kind of show, huh?
tim pool
But I think it was funny just like the reference you made about, I don't know, the dick joke with the NBA players.
It's just like, all right, good.
Let's have a laugh because I'm sure a lot of people are not feeling it right now with as crazy as everything's been.
Listen, if you're one of these people who's been traumatized from watching this video and you stand in solidarity with the NBA players, we got Ryan Logg.
He's going to make you laugh.
So you should feel a lot better.
ryan long
I mean, you did say that it's all these black guys are trying to look white.
I go, well, that seems like the opposite of my high school.
tim pool
Yeah, well, this article, I got halfway through it from Yahoo Sports, and I started laughing.
I'm like, I'm being pressured.
ryan long
Yeah, dude, I mean, that's the thing.
Some people see stuff like this, and they're like, you're not supposed to laugh.
Like, I have friends that, you know, people we know have died, and then the comedian goes on that night, and the idea is like, you know, my buddy died, which sucks, because he owes me money.
Which is like a standard, but it depends on how you kind of interface with the world, if you think you're supposed to laugh at stuff or not laugh at stuff.
I went to the riots in New York a few times, and yeah, you're like, this is crazy and there's obviously problems, but also there was some hilarious stuff happening.
tim pool
Really?
ryan long
I saw this like hood dude and he broke the store window.
I've talked about this in my podcast, but he broke the store window and then he came out with a pair of shoes and he yells, he goes, these kicks is for Floyd.
tim pool
Wow.
But have you seen the videos of people just like running in and just running out and they're all laughing and yelling?
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
They're like, yeah, come up.
It's like, I made a video.
It's not really.
It's not really for Floyd.
ryan long
No.
Well, I mean, you know, dude, it was all the things.
There was a bunch of white kids that were just partying.
There was a bunch of black kids that had like DMX playing and they're just having fun.
Like, and then there's people that are taking advantage of it.
There was all the different things.
There's some people, dude, there was one guy, he was, uh, this Latino guy.
unidentified
Right.
ryan long
And he kind of was there and he's like, Stop!
This is not what the movement's about!
We need to stop breaking windows!
And then this, like, black dude goes, Yo, shut up!
And then threw an egg at him.
And this guy just got egged, and you see it go down, and the guy's just like, Alright, I guess I tried.
tim pool
I was in Brazil during these major protests back in, I think it was 2013.
And some dude was walking around selling beer.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
He knows what's up.
And people were buying it.
And the guy I was with, he was like, that's capitalism right there.
This guy, he gets it.
He sees an opportunity, so he brought a cooler out and he was like, you know, cerveza and all that stuff.
ryan long
I saw people do that with the shirts.
So people were breaking into stores and they stole stuff, right?
And then they would come out and immediately start selling it.
Like everyone's like, I got 32!
Ralph Lauren, who needs a 32?
And someone's like, you got a 34?
And they're already honking it on the streets.
tim pool
It's like he's standing outside the store.
He shatters the window and he grabs it and he goes, I got a shirt right here.
ryan long
Dude, there's so many guys in New York that just sell junk all day long.
You go to their table and they're just selling whatever, like a cup of clothespins or whatever.
Nothing.
So, and then people come around, they're stealing stuff, they're like, oh crap, we're stealing stuff now?
I'm all good, let's do it.
tim pool
There's a crazy video where some dude goes in and steals a computer and walks out, and then two guys steal the computer from him.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
And then they run away, I'm just like, man.
ryan long
Circle of life, that's what that's called.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
You got got.
The bigger thieves start, you know, the computer goes all the way up and then eventually lands in some like corporate office where they really know how to steal.
ryan long
I mean, a lot of times, I remember with G20 in Canada when I was in Toronto, the G20 happened and everyone was like, yo, it's a party.
Everyone's like, yo, you can just go break windows and do whatever you want.
It's the purge tonight, essentially, right?
So everyone does that, and then over the next five years, it was like, yo, remember Jason?
He's going to jail for a year for that.
So basically over the next year, everyone would start getting their trial dates and stuff like that.
So I mean, there's going to be a whole team of whatever police that for the next three years, their whole job is like tracking down these people.
tim pool
It's already happening, man.
ryan long
Yeah, we'll see what happens.
But I think a lot of these people are gonna be like, that was fun.
And then you're like, yeah, not so fun when you're in jail now.
tim pool
Some of these people are going to prison for a long time.
30 years.
Molotov cocktails.
Assault on an officer.
They think they're playing games.
I mean, a couple people died last night.
They go out, they start acting tough, acting a fool, and now... They think it's the game.
They think it's the Purge.
They think it's fun.
ryan long
Yeah, I mean it was, so like they're right.
tim pool
Oh yeah.
Well now, well yeah sure sure, but you know, you gotta pay.
Yeah.
Ain't no such thing as a free lunch, right?
ryan long
Yeah, but it does seem like it at the time.
It was like, oh we're all getting free sweatpants.
tim pool
That was worth it.
ryan long
Now you're gonna get free orange sweatpants.
tim pool
Yeah.
Here, let's do this.
So first, I'll show you the more serious news, and then we'll cry a little bit about how insane this whole story is.
Fox News says NBA calls off playoff games after Milwaukee Bucks boycott game over shooting of Jacob Blake.
I got a theory about this.
the league's hand after protesting the Sunday shooting by Kenosha police of Jacob Blake,
a 29-year-old black man.
That's the gist of it, but it gets crazier.
Milwaukee Brewers join Bucks in protest, sit out game versus Reds after Jacob Blake shooting.
I got a theory about this.
Have you seen any of these games they've been doing?
ryan long
The basketball games?
tim pool
Recently, because of COVID.
Yeah, you think the games have been sucking, so they're like... So actually, I have it right here.
Check this out.
NBA playoff ratings on ESPN are down 40%.
Ratings, my understanding, across the board are down.
So imagine this, right?
You're used to playing major league sports.
You got all these fans.
You know, they're all yelling, you're all excited, and you get the three-pointer, you swing, you home run, everyone's cheering.
Now it's a bunch of cardboard cutouts.
ryan long
Yeah, janitors sweeping as you dunked on your opponent.
tim pool
And you're creeped out!
I mean, I would be creeped out.
I couldn't imagine.
I used to, you know, skate in contests a long time ago.
I couldn't imagine... Figure skate.
Yeah, figure skating, for sure.
Skateboarding.
But, there's people all over, and it really hypes you up when you're like, if I know I got this, people, like, they cheer for you, they cheer you on, it gives you that energy.
I couldn't imagine, like, I skate by myself sometimes, a lot of the time you're just skating for yourself, but when you're going out for a contest, and you're pushing your limits, and there's no one there, and it's just, like, you just cough off to the side, the janitor, he's sweeping, and they expect you to perform to your greatest without support of, you know, the crowds cheering for you.
ryan long
Yeah, it's like, I don't know if you've seen wrestling without the audiences, but it is a sad sight.
The guy's like, oh, I can't hear you!
It's just a cardboard cutout creaking in the wind.
tim pool
It's a janitor.
ryan long
Yeah, dude.
tim pool
I was gonna make a really offensive joke, I won't do it.
So I wonder if the reason why they're actually boycotting is because they're all like, dude, we need an out.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, they're playing these games in these rooms where there's like, just like, I was watching, I think it was WNBA, they walked out on the National Anthem, and they're not even in a court, they're not even in like an arena.
They're in like a high school gym.
ryan long
Well, the fans of the WNBA have been boycotting by not showing up for ages.
tim pool
Yeah, they didn't have to worry about the cardboard cutouts for that one, they just were like, you know, no one's gonna be here anyway.
It's funny.
ryan long
Holy crap, the attendance is wild!
unidentified
Because they actually put biggest attendance in history!
tim pool
The first time the seats have been filled.
I remember when the WNBA boycott thing happened, they walk out on the National Anthem, and I immediately pulled up the clip from Family Guy.
Seth MacFarlane's the one who made the joke, not me.
Where he's like, I don't know if you've ever seen the joke, but it's really offensive.
I mean, by today's standards, for sure.
Not so much back then, but he's like, so-and-so is going to make the shot, she scores two points, and that's why she commands $7,000 a year.
And they're like, but is the money worth being that unattractive?
I don't know.
That's for the fan to decide.
There's one guy in the stance chair.
ryan long
That's good.
That's five jokes in a row.
tim pool
I know.
That was Family Guy, man.
ryan long
Yeah, the NBA's been fighting it by not dunking.
tim pool
For real.
lydia smith
Seriously.
tim pool
They can't dunk.
So anyway, this is it, right?
ryan long
Only doing layups in protest.
tim pool
So they, you know, the Brewers are boycotting, NBA's boycotting.
ryan long
Like I said, I think maybe it's because they're just... I would love for this to catch on and people do their normal jobs.
Like, you know, just a bunch of guys at McDonald's being like, you know what, the fry cooks are staying home today.
You're like, you know, it's against racism.
And you're like, which one died?
You're like, I don't know, one of them.
tim pool
That's what they're doing.
They've been calling for a general strike.
But this is the funny thing.
ryan long
Just a general strike of everyone in the world?
tim pool
That's what, yeah, so it's a very common thing.
They try to get done.
ryan long
Like a pajama day, sort of.
tim pool
Yeah, like an extended siesta.
Nap time.
Sounds great.
Like people in the Mediterranean get it.
But a general strike among the left is when everyone just stops working.
ryan long
But they don't realize, they actually don't have the support of like... Imagine just women did it and they're like, women are just gonna stop working and everything just went back to normal.
tim pool
Oh gosh!
Everything improved?
Efficiency went up?
ryan long
Women are like, as a strike, we're just going to stay home.
And you're like, no problem.
Hey, if you don't mind making dinner today.
tim pool
We're going to get banned for hate speech.
The stream's going to get shut down.
ryan long
I'm not saying that women shouldn't work.
I'm just saying if they care about racism, they might want to consider that option.
lydia smith
That sounds like a great option.
tim pool
The funny thing about that is people aren't working, man.
Businesses are shut down, they're permanently closed.
If you do have a job, this probably isn't the time to be making crazy... I think the way they see it is, now is the chance to finish off the beast.
Everybody's laid off, so there's only a few people working at McDonald's and the grocery store and stuff.
So get them to go on strike and there's nothing left.
Maybe that's the general political idea to it.
ryan long
Dude, all that stuff is like, everyone's not like a 20-year-old activist.
Just telling some normal guys, like 50 years old, he's got a family.
You're like, yo, you're going to not go to work anymore for the next week.
And you're like, why?
You're like, oh, we got a whole thing going on at the university.
He's like, what are you talking about?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
My gender studies teacher said it would be a good idea.
And he's like, I got to pay my kids tuition.
Yeah, but that really is it.
So check this out.
So we know all this is going on, but now we got to get to the best part.
Yahoo Sports.
Players Association in active talks with players about logistics of potentially boycotting games.
So this happened earlier this morning.
I'm reading this article.
I started laughing.
There's no way this is real.
Check this out.
They say, an assembly organized by players who are emotionally traumatized by the latest police-involved shooting of an African-American that was captured on video was held Tuesday night at Disney's Coronado Springs Resort, sources said, and there were multiple conversations about what the actions could be taken throughout the day.
So the first thing that happens is I'm talking to my friends and I'm like, do you hear about these NBA players who are traumatized?
ryan long
And they're like, I can't talk.
I'm too emotionally traumatized.
tim pool
Yeah, they're crying.
I called them up and they were like, I can't process this.
ryan long
I was actually emotionally traumatized because I watched a WNBA game.
tim pool
Ryan came in and when he first came here, I mentioned what happened and he broke down.
unidentified
I just said, hold me.
tim pool
No, but in all seriousness.
ryan long
The only thing that will help if I can watch you do some sick nollies at a skate park in the backyard.
tim pool
Bring the sports back.
ryan long
If you could shred some gnar for me, Tim, it would really make me feel better.
tim pool
And that's when I started crying because I'm traumatized.
No, no, so I did.
I sent it to my friend, and they didn't believe it.
Like, I didn't believe it either, and I sent a screenshot of where it said, the players who are emotionally traumatized, and they're like, this is like an onion, right?
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
No, it's not the onion.
Check this out, it gets even better.
My favorite part.
I have no idea what they were thinking when they wrote this.
Okay, I gotta give everybody a warning.
This is quite literally on Yahoo Sports' website.
lydia smith
This is real.
tim pool
Athletes aren't immune to being racially profiled.
Sources said, as a tactic to avoid being pulled over, a few players have purchased Teslas, believing that police wouldn't suspect a black man to be operating that vehicle.
Now, the reason why the first thing I saw there was, it sounds like some rich dude.
It's like, oh, they're like, you bought a Tesla?
That's kind of expensive, don't you think?
Shouldn't you buy a normal car?
Well, it's because the police wouldn't profile me in it.
ryan long
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
So, like, their accountant is like, I don't know how you're justifying this $50,000 car.
Black Lives Matter?
How can we write this off?
Call it a security expense.
ryan long
Also, like, LeBron James, like, a Tesla's gotta be a drop in the pan for these people.
I needed a fancy car.
It's like Tesla's are like what, like 50 grand?
It's like you get a Ferrari if you want, LeBron James.
He's like, because of racism I had to drop this insane amount of money on a car.
I'm like, you can buy a fleet of Teslas.
tim pool
What's kind of crazy about it though is, I think that straight up is racist.
The fact that this idea exists that a cop is going to not pull over a Tesla because,
like, this is the world they live in and it kind of freaks me out.
They really think the cops are, like, in their cars, going like, Let's find the minorities!
And then, like, they see a car drive by, and like, There's one!
Go after them!
It doesn't matter what your car is.
In fact, a Tesla's more likely to get pulled over.
ryan long
It might be less likely to get pulled over than a Honda Civic with souped up rims and just lowered black lights.
Nine guys in the backseat.
tim pool
Flashy cars get pulled over more.
You want to get a grey Civic and then you don't get pulled over.
ryan long
Get a Honda Accord.
tim pool
It's also crazy this idea that these guys think the cops can't look through windows.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like you sit in a Tesla and all of a sudden the cops are like, I can't see.
ryan long
What's wrong?
tim pool
But I think it's nuts that they view this world that way.
ryan long
Dude, the fact that LeBron James said that he's like, listen, I get the sentiment,
but for LeBron James personally to be like, yo, I'm afraid for my life personally.
It's like, you're not though.
Like LeBron James comes out of his house and he's like, yo, that great basketball game.
Now I have to walk to my car and fear for my life.
And you're like, yeah, I think you're going to be fine.
You're a seven foot tall, like the cops pull him over and they wouldn't say like, yeah, you're a black guy.
That's where you pulled over.
They go, yo, are you LeBron James?
tim pool
Yeah, I know.
ryan long
Seriously.
They know who you are.
Yeah.
tim pool
Especially like he's probably got a driver.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
He's probably got a driver.
I'm sure he drives himself.
He gets pulled over in his very fancy car and I'm sure it's fine.
One of the craziest things about this whole narrative they've had, there was a viral commercial where it was like the talk.
This is what freaks me out because I grew up on the south side of Chicago and I talked to my progressive friends and they really believe that parents shouldn't tell their kids how to act around police and even firefighters or EMTs.
ryan long
It's not their job to educate their kids.
tim pool
But what world do they live in?
No, it's serious.
I see these stories.
It's no wonder you get these super entitled college students.
Have you seen that video in New York during the riots, where this woman is screaming at the cops in their face, and they keep saying, move, get back, and she goes, R, effing what?
And then the cop goes, she's coming, and he grabs her, and she goes, no, no, ah, and starts calling to her friends.
ryan long
That's the classic move.
tim pool
Cause she's never been told like, here's how you appropriately deal in like these circumstances.
ryan long
I mean, listen, I was like a troublemaker growing up and I've had run-ins with the cops and I'm not like some pro cop guy, but also like I've had times where a cop beat me up.
I've, you know, been tons of nights in the drunk tank and all that stuff, but I never really, like, it still sucked.
And I, you know, I was like, cops are kind of losers, but I didn't come out of it being like, I was innocent completely.
And I'm not saying everyone else isn't, but most of the times that I did it, I looked back and I was like, yeah, I was a little out of hand that night.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But, you know, I grew up and everybody I know in my neighborhood was told, like, hey man, when you get pulled over, here's what you gotta do.
You turn the engine off, take the keys out, put them on the dash, put your wallet on the dash, turn the radio down, turn the dome light on, put your hands on the wheel, and wait for the officer to walk up.
And then when he asks for your ID, it's right there in front of you.
And you do that just to make sure everybody feels safe and secure.
It's like these progressives act like I was told put on F the police full blast and stare at him without blinking and hold your and hold your hand in your shirt as he walks up and give him a look.
No, don't do that.
Don't do anything like that.
ryan long
I've had some wild caught but like You know it's this the problem is it's with all this stuff is they shove it down your face so much and then the times when they when they're actually like all the cops are wrong there it's hard to defend because you just it's like when they're like everyone's racist everyone's racist then you there actually is one you're like I'm just done hearing about people being racist yeah but I've had this is the one that always makes me laugh there's when at my old house in Toronto these cops are
Busted into our house in the middle of the night.
This is at like 3 a.m.
They knocked down the door and came in.
They had guns.
There was like five or six of them.
Came in with guns.
Bust down the door.
They started flipping our mattresses.
They go, everyone cuffed up.
And there was girls there too.
So they put the girls.
They're all crying like, you know, they're like, you know, 20 year old girls.
Like, who are you people?
You know, so anyways, they bring us out on the thing, make us sit there, it's like winter, and then eventually, when this all's said and done, they're like, who's so-and-so?
And we're like, none of us.
And then they were going, is this not 5 Ab Street?
And they're like, oh, they were at the wrong house.
tim pool
Damn.
ryan long
This is for real.
And then nothing happens.
They turned our house upside down.
Then they just go, all right, well, good.
You better not have any guns.
They just sort of move on to the next house.
You're like, you know, it's not like cops are always in the right.
tim pool
No, and I think, I mean, so you're talking about Canada, though, right?
ryan long
Yeah, I mean, cops are probably worse here than Canada, don't you think?
tim pool
Yeah.
But that story was in Toronto?
ryan long
Yeah.
I mean, the 6 is the hood.
I mean, you wouldn't last a day there.
It's a real tough place.
tim pool
Oh, right.
No, you grew up in Chicago.
I had a place near what used to be called Comiskey Park.
Now it's U.S.
Cellular Field in Chicago.
It's where the White Sox play.
And one day, me and my friends, we were playing GTA, and the cops just kick our door in.
And they come up with their guns out, and they're screaming.
It's been so long, but they were like, where's Jimmy?
Or something like that.
And the three of us are just like, who?
And he's like, where's Jimmy?
It's like me and two of my friends.
No one's name is Jimmy.
And then they walked to the house looking around and we were like, we moved in two months ago.
And they were like, oh, and they leave.
ryan long
Oh my God.
Like that should be pretty high on the checklist before you break a door down is make sure we got the right one.
tim pool
Well, they did.
It was the right address.
ryan long
Oh, it was the right address.
tim pool
But whoever they were looking for didn't live there anymore.
And so these cops, no warrant, nothing, I guess they were looking for some guy.
Chicago's got cop problems, man.
ryan long
They were looking for LeBron James.
lydia smith
That's probably what they were doing.
tim pool
They saw a Tesla out front and they knew.
ryan long
Yeah, imagine LeBron James had a really good point because the cops are legitimately like, yo, wouldn't it be funny to pull LeBron over once a week?
And then he's like, I'm telling you, these cops are after me!
And they're like, oh LeBron James, the cops are here to get you!
tim pool
And he's like, I swear, it's a conspiracy.
And then one of his managers is talking to somebody and he's like, I'm telling you, there's cops!
And then the manager's like, he's just, you know, he's alone.
ryan long
Yeah, they're everywhere.
Oh, 5-0 LeBron!
tim pool
But you know what's funny?
You're making a joke.
But that's exactly what it sounds like they're saying.
ryan long
Yeah, it's not that far off.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
So I wonder if this is offensive enough that YouTube's gonna be like, let's turn this one off.
Oh, this video?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ryan long
Really?
tim pool
This is... YouTube is nuts, man.
The censorship is getting crazy.
ryan long
Yeah, they were hard on... I told you I did this stock market video.
unidentified
Yeah.
ryan long
You know how it's like you never know what they're gonna get you for?
You're always like, oh, this one's a little crazy, and then nothing, and then they get you for something and you're like, what?
That was nothing.
tim pool
Oh, dude.
I have videos where it's like...
I was talking about Joe Biden.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
Joe Biden gets accused by these women of, you know, being a little touchy-feely with him.
And it's like this big scandal.
And I'm like, Joe Biden did this.
He did that.
And they're like, all good.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And then I do a video about like a TV show and they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You can't talk about sex and stuff like that.
What are you?
And then it's the craziest thing to me.
I can I do a segment and it's like they have this thing called self-certification on YouTube where you choose does disappear in your video.
ryan long
I did that too.
tim pool
Yeah, and so I'll be like, it's serious topical analysis, there's nothing too crazy.
I don't show, you know, graphic image or anything like that.
And I have no idea, no idea why.
Some videos are good, some are bad.
And so I'm constantly in talks with Google, and I'm like, okay, let me get this straight.
Like, this video right here is good, and it's a story where I'm talking about a guy who took a bullet in the chest and then dropped dead.
Another guy who got a bullet to the head.
That's okay, and we're showing the guy with the gun, just not any graphic imagery, yes.
Okay, now this one, I talked about Kamala Harris running with Joe Biden, and you flagged that as hate speech.
That one's offensive, that one's gotta go.
And then the video where you're yelling the N-word for two hours straight.
But the crazy thing is, you actually can say and use slurs on YouTube, so long as it's not directed at... Yeah, I guess so, right?
But they will throttle you, they'll demonetize you, they just... They don't love it.
They won't ban you for doing it?
ryan long
They're like, yo, it's chill, but like, you know, we don't love it.
tim pool
We totally get it, man.
You know, it's cool.
Like, do your thing, but just, you know, like, we're not gonna tell the neighbors about it.
But yeah, yeah, so, so, uh, you've got, you've got the woke racist video.
Yeah.
The two guys wearing shirts, one guy's woke, one guy's, they believe the exact same things.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
And that one you didn't have any problems with?
ryan long
No, that didn't get censored everywhere.
But I've had lots of stuff censored over the years, but I just thought it was funny that I did the stock market.
Like basically the premise was like the stock market's kind of overvalued.
It was like not even anything crazy.
It got censored everywhere.
unidentified
That's so weird.
ryan long
Dude, like TikTok took it down twice, then it got like demonetized, and then it got like the thing on Twitter that says, you know, it has shocking content or whatever.
tim pool
Wow.
So wait, wait, explain what the video is.
Like what's the premise of this of the sketch?
ryan long
Basically, it's the economy and the stock market and the economy is like a bro partying like oh, yeah This is never gonna end and the economy is like we're very sick Yeah, like maybe you're sick like success is just a state of mind.
tim pool
He's looking at Gary V's Maybe it's a Siamese twin.
It's actually offensive is it I didn't even say Siamese I said conjoined conjoined conjoined.
ryan long
Yeah, cuz I know that's a big problem, right?
tim pool
Yeah, what is it?
Why do we call it Siamese?
It was because there was like two famous people who were Siamese, right?
lydia smith
I think so.
ryan long
So I think it was because it was like a circus act The guy who started the circus tweeted something bad in 1842.
He chiseled something into a tablet that is now considered racist.
tim pool
I don't think... Siam doesn't exist.
It's Burma.
ryan long
Maybe it's that, but it's hard.
tim pool
You use the name of a country that's no longer in existence, therefore... I think it's hilarious that you made a video It makes the conspiracy theory alarm bells start going crazy.
ryan long
Yeah, there's definitely a lot of conspiracy theory alarm bells that kind of go off on all that stuff.
But the funny thing that, I think I was kind of saying this to you before, but the funny thing about satire is how these places decide what they can put on and what they don't, is they transcribe, correct me if I'm wrong, because you probably know more than this than me, but they transcribe what's happened in the video.
On YouTube.
Yeah, right?
tim pool
Partly, yeah.
ryan long
It's a text and then they flag certain phrases and words and stuff like that, right?
tim pool
They can actually visualize the text.
So like, if you do a thumbnail that says, I don't know, like a racial slur, it can break the image down and detect the text in the image.
Right.
But also, the words you say, there's actually, I think it was... So you can't just do the white power sign willy nilly anymore.
Oh yeah, they'll find out and it'll translate the text.
I think it was Keemstar.
He said a word that I'm going to be very careful and enunciate very, very carefully.
It starts with E, then there's a hyphen, and the word girl.
And the reason why I separated that in that way is because YouTube recognizes that word as basically one of the N words.
Really?
E-girl.
Say it fast.
And the translator said, A word you can't say, and he got demonetized.
Yeah, so a lot of people don't realize, sometimes the demonetization is because the computer doesn't differentiate between similar sounding words.
You know, like... I was thinking about this a while ago, because I was... I can't remember, I was at a French restaurant or something, and I was thinking about the similarities... Were you bragging?
Oh yes, that's right, we had escargot.
No, it was literally like some New York, you know, French-themed restaurant.
ryan long
Pierre is poutines.
tim pool
Yes.
Poutines.
That's Canada.
Get out of here.
No, but I was thinking about how, like, if you spoke very quickly, you could, you're priming yourself to someone else, like to someone who doesn't speak English, in a very weird way.
Like if you said, Mr. and my sister, like, a person who doesn't speak English might not realize Mr. is a dude and my sister, they might hear the same thing.
ryan long
Yeah, like my ex, I was saying, I think we should break up, and she heard, I'm going to stay here for another two years.
lydia smith
Exactly the same.
ryan long
There's always these linguistic problems when you speak quick.
tim pool
But YouTube mangles up what you say, because we talk fast, and then all of a sudden you're... So maybe what happens is you're talking about the stock market, and like, have you looked at the tax?
It's all like a bunch of what?
ryan long
I said, is this, you know, is real?
And they were like, oh, stock market is real?
Okay, we know what's going on here.
Loud and clear.
Get him out of here.
tim pool
I've been willing to bet- I'm talking about the Federal Reserve and I accidentally say Israel.
You're gonna get- Look, look, look, look.
I'm willing to bet a lot of conspiracy theorists are going like- You talk about the Fed, you talk about the stock market, they shut you down.
You know what's funny?
It has come up.
People talk about censorship of conservatives a lot on social media, and it's real, but it's not so much that it's conservatives, it's anti-establishment orthodoxy.
ryan long
I would agree, yeah.
tim pool
So conservatives, for the most part, are the ones, especially Trump supporters, so they see the most of it, but there are leftists, like anti-war, anti-establishment, who do get censorship sometimes, but for the most part, the establishment orthodoxy of the left is typically okay.
And that was another thing you were bringing up earlier that I thought was really fascinating, that you mentioned YouTube can't detect satire.
ryan long
Yeah, so that's what I was going to say.
That's one of the reasons why people will do videos being like, oh, I'm like a Q guy, right?
And then you say all this stuff.
You're like, oh, Trump's doing this and he's the pedophile rings and hydroxychloro and whatever, whatever.
I don't know.
I'm sure people on the internet are like, that's not what they think.
I don't know.
If you say like, oh, I'm going to make fun of like the far right or something.
unidentified
Yep.
ryan long
Good to go.
say all their talking points, then YouTube goes like, you're not allowed to say that
stuff, take it down.
But if I come on and I'm kind of like, oh, there's 75 genders and whatever, right?
They take that phrase and they're like, 75 genders.
We see no problem with that.
You go, yeah, because you're making fun of it, but they can't tell the sarcasm.
So they're making fun.
tim pool
So so I, you were telling me that earlier and I was like, that's really sad to say everything
ryan long
sarcastically and wink.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
ryan long
Women are equal to men!
tim pool
And YouTube's going to translate that, and the computer's going to see it as a literal statement.
ryan long
Yeah, and they're going to say, this guy's bang on, dude.
Throw this MF in the algorithm.
tim pool
He's boom!
ryan long
Truth bombs on this channel!
tim pool
Have you seen what happened at this bookstore?
This is hilarious.
Do you know Titanium McGrath?
Yes.
So they did a display of all of these woke books, and one of the books they put on the pedestal was Woke by Titanium McGrath, Andrew Doyle's satire project.
And so you have like, you know, white fragility and like, you know, white whatever.
And then there's woke.
unidentified
And it's indistinguishable.
tim pool
It's hard for me to get out.
It's just, it's indistinguishable.
ryan long
He constantly does articles where they, you know, basically prove his article.
Dude, I've had a few of those where like, I made jokes and stuff.
And then the next day, you're like, yeah, no, that's, that's what they're doing for real.
tim pool
Dude, how many how many times has like the Babylon Bee or the Onion come true now?
lydia smith
Dude, it's it's like they're predicting the future at this point.
I'm going to need to stop writing some of these articles.
Yeah, nonsense.
tim pool
Some of it's getting like creepy predictable.
ryan long
But man, there was one thing that always made me laugh just because I also bring it up because you worked at Vice.
But because I kind of hit them hard.
And but I did an article.
There's this girl that got fired from Vice.
unidentified
Right.
ryan long
And she was like, really mad.
Like, they're getting rid of, I'm the only person speaking for
trans people, but like the answer is like, no one's reading these articles
because right.
Garbage.
And it was all like, you know, why men are cutting off their penises in
solidarity when they're not even sure what she was really writing dead serious.
So basically I used half of the vice articles and half ones I made, made up
and no, no one could tell the difference.
Like, you know, why animals are actually trans and there's all this kind of stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
ryan long
But when I was, uh, I kind of go hard on them too, because I remember when I was, this is when I was in Canada, I did, they kind of came to Canada and they're like, Oh, we're going to spend, they made this big venture deal and kind of said we were going to spend money and then didn't really.
But I was in a meeting with the guy and he said for me verbatim, we were, I was talking about like the show about some guys in bands and stuff like that.
And he's like, We're trying to do stuff with things like refugees, like stuff that's hot right now.
unidentified
Whoa!
ryan long
Dude, the guy at Vice looked me in the eyes and said we want to do refugees because they're hot right now.
tim pool
For like, for what?
Like entertainment content?
ryan long
Yeah, like we want articles and shows about refugees because that's what's up right now and I never forget that.
tim pool
I've got similar stories, man.
I worked for one company where I was talking to one of the higher-ups.
They were really confused about the direction of the company.
Because when the editor-in-chief was asked by, like, their salespeople, what's the mission of our media outlet?
He goes, gender.
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, it's not an exaggeration, I am not making a joke.
Like, I'm a serious guy.
And they were like, huh?
And he goes, that's our whole thing for next year.
And they were like, okay.
ryan long
Then he said, what is it good for?
tim pool
I'm like, could you imagine, dude, like Vice walking up to you and being like, we're really interested in like Refugees for entertainment like yeah, what and you're like, what about him?
unidentified
It's like You got any jokes.
ryan long
Yeah.
Well, I was saying that I was like because it was a show about bands and stuff and I'm like What am I gonna do the refu BG's with their new hit song staying alive?
unidentified
Dude Dude, it's wild, yeah.
ryan long
But there's also this funny thing in entertainment that, one comedy especially, like there's this weird thing where some people think that if you're, you know, some people have the idea that certain groups you're not supposed to make jokes about, you know what I mean?
It's kind of like, but you go, imagine you were in a group of friends where it's like, you can talk about him, but like, don't talk about, you know, don't make jokes about James or whatever.
And James is like, Yo, dude, I'm not really in the group if we can't talk, you know, and I've always said that when you do stand-up, you actually look at people that make fun of everyone.
Everyone kind of leaves like a pressure release and they feel better.
Obviously, if there's like a guy in a wheelchair and you rail on him non-stop, but if you just treat him like everyone else, people actually like that way better.
But when you kind of set those tones, it puts in a weird situation, especially, this is why there's all these conflicting agendas, because they go, diversity is really good and we need like diversity in sketches, right?
But a lot of sketch comedy, you're making fun of the thing, right?
So they're like, you need women and trans people in sketches.
Also, you can't make fun of them.
And you go, so what?
Like my comedy sketches just have to have like, you know, Indian trans people that are the heroes.
And like, that's not really, And so there's no joke?
I'm fine with pudding.
So I always say it's funny when they ever go, like, there needs to be more diversity and common.
You're like, loud and clear.
Lots of black guys.
Black comics kick, you know, they're very funny, right?
tim pool
Have you ever seen like an actual woke comedy set?
ryan long
A woke comedy set?
That's majority of comedy right now.
tim pool
Really?
You think so?
ryan long
There's no... I mean, if you turn on Netflix, I mean... For sure, right, right, right.
tim pool
But I mean, like, you've got, I don't know, Amy Schumer, would that qualify?
ryan long
I mean, Amy Schumer, she's more like Hollywood woke, where you get really famous, and then you kind of go, oh, that offensive stuff I was doing before was a character, but actually I'm part of the good guys.
That's more like the, let me keep my famous guy spot, you're kind of like, How do I stay famous?
What do I have to say?
tim pool
Give me the list.
ryan long
The funny part is, if you go to Brooklyn or whatever, there's a whole genre of comedy where they're coming out and they'll be like, my dad doesn't even think that gender exists and Trump's so orange.
tim pool
No, go ahead.
ryan long
Yeah, they're just it's they're using all the buzzwords, right?
Like whether gender and non-binary and all this stuff.
But you go to the problem is you go outside of any like Metropolitan's little pocket of those people.
And no one knows what you're talking about.
tim pool
Yeah, it's it's it's it's it's crazy.
They've created I think it's social media.
They've created this microscopic bubble.
It's it's I mean, it's decently large.
It's probably millions of people.
ryan long
But also has like the industry power.
And yeah.
tim pool
So you get these people who are saying things that make literally no sense to anybody.
Regular people.
ryan long
They go, oh, I'm sorry that I'm not part of your heteronormative thing.
And they're like, we're not against that.
We don't know what you're talking about.
tim pool
Yeah, what is that?
Is that like a science term or something?
And then they say, it's not my job to educate you.
ryan long
Yeah, yeah.
But the kind of idea is those people.
And then I feel like the problem is you see them online, and then a lot of these people will see comedy people like me or whatever, and they'll go, Oh, sorry that you can't just make your like racist jokes anymore.
Oh, that the world doesn't want to hear that comedy.
And you go, they actually do though.
It's like, you know, I do like people and you go, I'm like, I'll bury you in front of your fans in a comedy club.
Like, I don't know who you like, they think comedy isn't real.
But so the problem is most of the world are just normal people.
They go to comedy clubs and they laugh and they're like, yeah, like make fun of everyone that's hilarious.
And then there's this sect of the internet that controls a lot of power that goes, We're gonna add a third rung to this where it's like there's a contract between you and the audience.
The audience laughs.
We're gonna watch it after.
We're gonna watch it after the fact and be like, yeah, well, they're stupid.
They shouldn't be watching.
Shouldn't be laughing.
You're wrong for doing those jokes.
And you're like, what's the problem?
Everyone had a good time.
And you're like, well, they shouldn't be having a good time.
tim pool
Do they think like, The people in the audience are part, it's like they're part of the act.
ryan long
He thinks they're too stupid.
They don't know what's best for them.
tim pool
I watched the special, I think it was from Vice, about a woke comic, and they explained that the best way to be woke and do comedy is to make fun of yourself.
And so it was like really, like self-deprecating humor is fine, like Rodney Dangerfield was like legit, that dude ragged on himself endlessly and it was funny.
But some of this is just kind of, like, it's really bad.
ryan long
Oh, it's a depression off, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, seriously.
ryan long
But I mean, yeah, if you take every other target off the table, I mean... That's all that's left is you.
But I, yeah, I mean, I think that those woke comics have, like, I don't think there's a shortage of them being like, oh, I'm sorry that a white man showed up!
unidentified
Yeah.
ryan long
Except for them to say that they're not, uh, hitting targets.
tim pool
When I was watching this, you know what it felt like?
It felt like the audience and the comedian were doing a show for the cameras, like a Potemkin comedy show.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
Where the journalists come in and they're like, so can woke comedy exist?
And they're like, yes.
And the comic is like, hello friends, here's a joke.
I'm ugly.
And they go, yay.
unidentified
Don't laugh too hard, though.
lydia smith
Jazz hands, please.
ryan long
Yeah, it's a cosplay of a comedy show.
tim pool
But they want people to think it's real comedy.
You know what it really is?
I think, what did someone call it?
Clapter?
ryan long
Yeah, of course.
And you know what the thing is about, like you do your thing and everyone does their thing.
If you guys want to go do like your kind of hipster thing or whatever and and pretend you know tell like you know there's there's bands that the guy rolls around on the ground while hitting a tambourine and that's a band and like I'm not saying they shouldn't be able to do that and I get like the hipster element of it.
But the problem is then to go and be like, oh, look at these bands playing chords, you know, so it's yeah, that's kind of what chords are offensive.
Yeah, I don't care what anyone does.
But it's like, once we get into conversations about who's allowed to do what, and you start being puritanical with these fringe beliefs, and that actually kind of hold a lot of institutional power, that's when you start to be like, alright, I was gonna be fine, let you do your thing.
But now you're telling me what to do.
So now we're kind of feel like we're at war.
tim pool
So you did, you've done a bunch of these videos.
You got one recently left and right.
It's like a basketball, basketball team.
Like you're trying to pick teams.
Just describe it real quick.
Cause that, that was good too.
ryan long
And then, well, this is what, um, I've kind of been saying this a lot.
It's like a lot of people on the internet really were for the most part, kind of apolitical, you know, to some degree they're like, I don't know.
Yeah.
Maybe I'm down for socialized healthcare, but I don't really like being told what to do.
Like I don't care if gay people would like, Most people, I would say there's a good 60% of people before people kind of came in and said, no, no, you got to pick a side, right?
You're on the side.
And then you go, and then most people are like, especially people that grew up in metropolitans are like, all right, I guess like I'm on the left or whatever, right?
And they're like, well, do you believe this, this and this?
And you're like, I don't know, that seems like a lot.
Do you believe this guy shouldn't be able to say this on the internet?
And they have this insane laundry list of things you need to believe.
And then if you don't believe them, they go, this guy's right wing.
And then eventually some people go, all right, whatever, then fine, I'm right wing.
Because some, you know, it's like everyone's doesn't have, like I'm, me and people like me and you think about this stuff probably more than other people because it's kind of, it's your job.
You're essentially like a, you know, we're social commentators for a living.
So you probably, and it probably even came, It probably took you a few years to sort of realize how to interface with like everyone yelling at you and telling you you're bad for saying this and you go what?
So I think for normal people they just get they think in terms of Socratic logic where everyone just yells at them and they're like if you don't think this you're on the right and they're going I guess I'm on the right then they go oh look at this he's on the right fire him and you're like well you're the one who pushed me over here and the left wing's kicking everyone out so they're like an exclusive club and they're basically saying Uh, if you want to be here, you need to be, like, VIP.
You need to have this much money a year.
Like, they're the exclusive club.
tim pool
Black tie, suit.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, dress up for it.
Yeah.
ryan long
And the right wing's taking recruits right now, right?
So they're like, everyone's in.
tim pool
Everyone's in.
ryan long
You know, they'll be like, oh, I have socialized.
I like socialized healthcare.
They're like, ah, whatever.
Get in here.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
tim pool
Come on in.
ryan long
Yeah.
And they want- We'll argue about it.
Right?
So I feel like the way that they want to describe it is different because the truth is it's like they're the church and everyone's like the church like if you want to get into heaven this is the you know the left wing we're the good one right if you want to be part of the good guys the good guys then uh you got a list here's their commandments and then the bar down the street's like yo we're kind of just partying over here And then they're like, look, the devil's down the street.
And they're like, we're actually just drinking beers.
And then they're like, if you go there, you're either with the church or you're with the bar.
And everyone's like, dude, I just want to go to a comedy show and laugh with my friends without you scolding me.
And I think that's how most people see the world.
And I don't think a lot of these people realize how much people they're turning off by, you know, being puritanical.
tim pool
So in this sketch, there's two guys, it's you and- Oh, were we supposed to talk about the sketch?
No, no, no, it's fine.
No, I'm just joking, I'm just joking.
So you're wearing, you're the left-wing guy, and the other dude's the right-wing guy.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
And then you're basically screaming at them, and the one guy's like, I guess I'm on your team, and you're like, well, tell me 240 of your opinions or something.
ryan long
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
The funny part, my favorite part is when the guy goes, I guess I'm on the right, and the right-wing guy leans over and goes, you see this thing that Donald Trump said about coronavirus?
It's kind of reasonable, right?
And you go, yeah, whatever.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
But that really does feel like a lot of people being like, I guess I'll be on the right and then the right is like very like, I don't know, kind of like tame.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
Hey, look at this meme from Trump.
And they're like, yeah, whatever.
ryan long
Well, I even thought the like the response to these videos sometimes is so the microcosm of the actual video.
Like I made this video basically saying there's these three people that are like, OK, I'll be on the left.
The left wing's like, no, you got to be on the right.
Right.
I released this video and then everyone's kind of like, look at these like right wing people.
This is crazy.
There's a tiny group of, you know, radical kind of left-wing people with lots of followers that said, oh, as if, and everyone else, like every normal person from the right, the left was like, that's exactly how I see it.
And you know, you know, and then because normal people see themselves as one of the three players that's like, and the radicals see themselves, oh, you're making fun of me.
And you're like, well, interesting that you see yourself as the one yelling at people and not the normal person that just wants to play basketball.
tim pool
Exactly.
ryan long
So, I mean, that kind of says more about you than it does about the video, I think.
tim pool
You think it's going to get better?
Because there's a lot of comedians that are... Joe Rogan, for instance.
I mean, not only does... I'm not familiar with him.
unidentified
No?
tim pool
Oh, well, he's a great comedian.
ryan long
You should definitely check out his work.
tim pool
Is that the UFC announcer guy?
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, OK.
tim pool
He's funny.
But when I think about his podcast being so big, And he does conversations along with his comedy, and his comedy hits at both sides, and it's really funny.
Then you've got people like, I don't know if you're familiar with Jonathan Pai.
Yeah, yeah.
I saw his show, and it was one of the funniest shows I've ever seen.
It was amazing.
That dude's great.
And he was working with Andrew Doyle, who did Titanium McGrath.
So they hit it out of the park.
And you've also got Ricky Gervais.
You've got Dave Chappelle.
And they're willing to say, like, F you.
I'll be offensive.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
So I wonder if that resilience Yeah.
among those high profile comedians is going to allow us to actually, well I guess you
can put it this way, will comedy save us from the insanity because regular people like you
said see themselves as the normal basketball players, not as a left wing guy.
I guess my question is are you optimistic or pessimistic about where this is going culturally?
ryan long
It seemed like it was kind of dying down a little bit because the common thought has
already been lost.
So I was doing stand-up clubs every night and you kind of say things and you see I wasn't like you know saying like isn't this stuff crazy?
That's what I was kind of saying like five years ago and over the last three years it was kind of like oh yeah crazy woke stuff like everyone's kind of rolling their eyes at it already.
COVID bubbled it back up like crazy.
So as far as like the counterculture, it's strong, in the counterculture,
that is the, like the 10, 15 best comics in the world right now, in my opinion,
aren't part of the industry system.
And everyone kind of sees that.
They go, why when I watch this, it's crappy.
And when I watch the people that aren't endorsed, you're like, what Netflix does kind of, you know,
it's not to say that there isn't good people on these stations, but late night used to be
worse something, right?
Like you go, oh, this guy was on, you know, Colbert five times, like, oh my God.
Whereas now it's like, you have a friend that goes, yo, God, come check out these chicks, they're so hot.
And you're like, the first time you're like, well, that girl wasn't that hot.
Then like the five more times he keeps bringing twos around and you're like, all right, like,
I don't think I'm gonna listen to this guy's vouches anymore.
Yeah, so that's kind of what the industry's done, right?
And they're in this loop because it used to be, let's say you were like a record label, right?
And you had, you know, rock was happening when rap was popping off.
And you're like, we need to switch to that.
You could probably, you're going to be a little late because they're big boats and they take a long time to turn.
And maybe you fire everyone and get a new regime.
We're going to be a rap label now because we don't want to miss this big movement.
They usually do miss it.
That's why there's all these rapper millionaires.
But what happens with this stuff is if you went to these places now that have that culture, like Vice or whatever, and you go, hey, this stuff's kind of like drying up.
People hate it.
It's not doing good.
No one wants to watch it.
And then you go, so we want to switch.
And they go, you want to switch from helping the underprivileged?
So it's not like, oh, you don't want to be a rock and roll guy anymore.
It's like, what do you mean?
You're going to switch from being anti-racist?
tim pool
Does that mean you want to be a Nazi?
ryan long
Yeah, we're going to make an internal culture shift from fighting racism.
Like, what?
It's like, I'm on Twitter now.
My boss is a Nazi.
And the guy's like, okay, okay, okay, sorry, sorry, sorry.
I keep churning out articles about why trans people are awesome.
tim pool
I'm so sorry.
I feel like the culture war is like...
I don't know, an anchor, I guess?
Yeah.
It latched onto all these industries, and it's dragging them down, and they can't do anything about it.
ryan long
And they've created their own loops, too.
Like, a lot of these stations are funded by advertisers, right?
So, they go to the advertisers, like, Dove soap, like, this is the culture, like, you gotta be woke, right?
Dove's like, well, okay, we're woke, yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
ryan long
Posting the things, like, yo, women rule, or whatever, right?
And then, essentially, they go to buy stuff, and they're like, hey, we're gonna do an edgy program, and Dove's like, yo, we're not doing that, we're woke.
And they're like, well, you don't have to be woke.
They're like, you're the one that told us to be woke!
tim pool
I know what's really going on with Dove soap.
Do you know the secret?
You brought up Dove, not me.
You know Dove launched that Real Beauty campaign.
ryan long
It's a brilliant campaign.
tim pool
Yeah, it's like the women are, you know, kind of overweight.
ryan long
Not morbidly, but... I didn't see it that way, I just saw them as perfect, but interesting that's how you saw it.
tim pool
Yeah, it is.
ryan long
I saw them as delicious.
tim pool
Do you know who owns Dove?
ryan long
Funny.
My guess, if I had to pick, Richard Spencer.
tim pool
Close.
Unilever.
Unilever owns Dove Soap.
ryan long
What's Unilever?
tim pool
It's just this massive conglomerate.
Major corporation owns a bunch of companies, so they own Dove.
They also own another company.
Ben & Jerry's.
ryan long
That's a good conspiracy.
tim pool
It's a great conspiracy.
But is it really a conspiracy?
I mean, think about it.
You're a dude who works at Unilever.
I mean, for real.
That's good stuff.
It's not even a conspiracy.
Think about it.
You're the guy who works at Unilever.
You're going through the books, and they're like, how can we improve?
They're like, we got a problem.
We're trying to get moms to eat a pint of Ben & Jerry's every night, and they don't want to because we got these commercials of all these super thin women, and they're like...
Boom!
Do the Dove commercials for women who are normal, even though they are overweight.
ryan long
Again, I don't see it that way.
tim pool
So, arguably it's a conspiracy, but I actually think it's more of a circumstance of the system.
ryan long
I hope that's true, dude.
Like, if ever a document came out, like, dude, if you're from WikiLeaks and you're on this, if you could find an internal email being like, yo, let's do like a fat soap campaign.
lydia smith
I want it to be true.
I really do.
tim pool
We need to sell more ice cream.
ryan long
Yo, being chubby is awesome because we just acquired a pork grind company and we need to rocket ship this.
Dude, that'd be the best.
tim pool
I'm not saying that there was like, I'm not saying I think there's a guy at Unilever going like, here's the plan.
I think it's very simple that it's a system.
ryan long
They also acquired a shampoo commercial and that's why they've been telling girls they shouldn't shave their armpits.
Yeah, that makes sense.
tim pool
Hey, why not?
ryan long
Yeah, it makes perfect sense.
Sell 10% more shampoo, but they don't own the razors.
If they do, if they buy the razor company, they're going to be like, yeah, we were wrong, shave them.
tim pool
Well, but here's the thing.
ryan long
It's actually super feminist to shave them.
We were off on that.
tim pool
We talk about Get Woke, Go Broke.
We started with the NBA story.
I actually think... I kind of brought this up.
I think what a lot of people miss is that there's Get Broke, Go Woke.
It's the inverse, right?
Like, you've heard of Get Woke, Go Broke.
ryan long
Yeah, yeah.
They're like, there's only one way out of this.
tim pool
Exactly.
ryan long
Feminism.
Like, we're a bank.
tim pool
Right.
But for real, dude.
You saw that Gillette Toxic Masculinity commercial?
ryan long
Yeah.
Where it's like... I actually changed everything after watching that.
I was mid-beating my girlfriend.
tim pool
You just had to stop.
ryan long
I just go.
unidentified
It's like, wow.
ryan long
What?
unidentified
What?
tim pool
So this commercial was about toxic masculinity.
And it's basically, it's the epitome of bad advertising.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
But it turns out a lot of people were like, oh, Gillette got woke, go broke.
They did this woke commercial.
They lose money.
And I'm like, they were losing money.
So they did the what commercial they didn't they didn't know what to do because sales were going down and they thought maybe this was part of the scramble.
Yeah.
So I think so one thing that was eating away at Gillette was something so drastic.
ryan long
It just might work.
We're going to do something really drastic.
We're going to make a pro women commercial.
tim pool
No, no, no.
It was anti-man.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
No, I'm just kidding.
So, this whole thing's really, really funny, but because of, like, Dollar Shave Club and Harry's, cheaper razors delivered every month, they've been losing money.
So then all of a sudden this ad comes out where they're like, men, do better.
And they just pissed every guy off.
I mean, like, not every single one.
The woke feminist dudes were like, yeah, I'm a feminist.
They can't grow beards anyway.
I'm kidding.
ryan long
I can't grow beards.
Oh, but a lot of them have beards, if you know what I mean.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
No, they're abusers.
I'm going to be careful of my language.
ryan long
Do a blanket statement.
You're all abusers.
All of you.
tim pool
You know the reset the clock meme, right?
ryan long
Reset the clock?
tim pool
Yeah, it's a meme.
Whenever a male feminist turns out to be a sexual abuser, reset the clock.
ryan long
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I did a video, absolve yourself by canceling others.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, yeah.
But it happens enough to where, you know, it's become a meme.
But the funny thing about Gillette and with NBA, I think what happens is they're losing money and they think, we're not with it anymore.
ryan long
And it wasn't even them.
It's like their advertising agency would be like, trust me, we got the goods here.
What are you thinking?
It's just like an easel, and they just flip the page.
It's just men crossed out.
tim pool
And they're like, but we sell razors to men.
That's the problem right there.
That's patriarchal thinking.
ryan long
Yeah, you're not getting it.
Can we get someone in here who understands business?
tim pool
Yeah, so they end up doing these ads, and it's a response in my opinion.
It's a desperation to be hip.
So you mentioned the advertisers, because I've experienced this too.
I mentioned that company, right?
I worked for this media company, and a lot of people know it was Fusion.
They wanted to get woke, and it was because of these marketing consultants.
Dude, they're the worst.
If I was going to have an actual conspiracy theory, it would be that these far leftists immediately got jobs at advertisers.
ryan long
Yes, that's exactly what it is, dude.
I mean, you've probably had videos.
I've had videos myself where I put them up.
You know the one where you're talking about the porn stars?
It's too much swearing and stuff, but basically I made this video with some porn stars and it was like a comedy video.
It's on my channel, but it's kind of irrelevant what it was about, but I put it on my TikTok and it did like 2 million views and I lost 20,000 subscribers.
There is a possibility, but if you work for an advertising firm, what happens is you go to these companies and you're like, you hired me to do this advertising campaign, they go back and they go, look at this, we did 20 million impressions, the CPM on that, what a successful campaign, and they all pop the champagne, one of the most successful campaigns, we'll win advertising awards, and you're like, yeah, but what you didn't mention is, Half of those, maybe more than half of those, was people sharing it, saying like, I hate this.
tim pool
Or, it's actually crazier than that.
So, one thing they'll do is, and this has been rampant in digital media, advertisers will go to these companies and say, gender.
Here's what the young kids want.
They want to talk about gender.
and so these companies are like okay i guess we'll do a big gender thing
and then the advertising company will say okay it'll cost you twenty thousand
dollars for this production they'll take ten thousand and they will buy views
through device model through google or facebook
I'm not going to say anything.
ryan long
I know because Vice has bought some views off of properties that I've been involved with.
tim pool
Wow, really?
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
So I know a little.
Elaborate on that.
ryan long
OK, so basically.
tim pool
If you can.
ryan long
Yeah, I mean, this isn't like a conspiracy.
This is just like how that industry works.
Yeah, you know, you're playing dumb with me.
tim pool
I've talked about it quite a bit.
ryan long
Okay, so yeah, basically how these models do is they sell the clicks, they say vice, like, we're the cool guy, you know, you want some vice clicks?
We're charging more than other people because you're buying a cool guy, you know?
tim pool
Yeah.
ryan long
So they sell to whatever Red Bull a million clicks at vibes.
Vice's articles are bombing right now because they, you know, they were hopping on a trend that's like dying out.
And then let's say they only get 500,000 clicks to put on their, you know, the ad on or whatever.
Then they go to other websites, you know, let's say, for example, a reductress or something like that.
Dose.com.
tim pool
That's what it was.
I'm pretty sure.
I could be wrong.
ryan long
Gaymalebathhouse.org.
Yeah, that was one of them.
I'm not familiar with it, but I've heard that there's articles, there's websites like that.
tim pool
That sounds like Vice, to be honest, dude.
You've seen that video where the guy's doing a Vice article and he's like, he can't think
of anything, so he grabs a dildo out of a box and then he throws it at the wall and
then he throws it again.
Yeah, so anyway.
ryan long
And then they buy the click, so they go, hey, we'll pay you a percentage.
Basically, we sold this for $500,000.
We can't fulfill it.
You know what I mean?
It's like if I said to someone, hey, you want to hang out with comedian Ryan Long and Tim Pool?
Give us $10,000 and it'll go to charity.
And someone goes, oh, I'll You know, I'll pay $10,000 for Tim.
I don't want Ryan to come, but whatever, right?
So they pay us the $10,000 to hang out with us for a day, and then we go, yeah, me and Tim couldn't make it.
Right, right, right, right.
My boy from high school, we call him B-Note, he's coming out.
He's going to have lunch with you.
tim pool
He's usually just here to clean the garbages out, but he'll be hanging out.
ryan long
Dude, I'm telling you, he's cool.
He's just like me, like we grew up.
Can't believe it's not Ryan.
tim pool
Yes, it's a real thing.
It's called ad rights distribution or something like that.
In my opinion, I think it's fraud.
That's just what I think.
ryan long
It kind of is.
tim pool
If I go to you and I'm like, hey, I've got 50 million views per month.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Sell you junk.
I think it's the big short in a nutshell.
And then what they did was they would go to these small clickbait farms that just generate as many clicks as
ryan long
possible Yeah, so I don't know sell you junk. Yeah, it's a big short
in a nutshell Seriously, no, it really is really is I thought I've talked
tim pool
to ed people right right, right?
So for those aren't familiar with the big short This is about the financial crash in 08 and like a mortgage-backed
ryan long
security It's a documentary about Kevin Hart.
tim pool
Is it?
Oh, no, no, no.
I didn't know if he was in it.
I'm like, wait, wait, was he?
So anyway, oh, I get it.
That took me a while.
It was an on-purpose corny joke.
So anyway.
What happens is you think you're buying Vice, but you were actually buying, I think it was called, I think it was called Dose.
I'm not entirely sure.
And if you've ever seen those websites where it's like the 25 pictures of, you know, Brad Pitt's junk or something.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
And then, no, I mean, I mean, no, no, no, no, no.
So no, but don't check my history, but actually a real, a real example.
I always, I always make that.
That's my go-to junk, my, my go-to tabloid joke because it's, it was an actual article I saw one time.
ryan long
And what was it like in his bathing suit?
tim pool
It was just like pictures of Brad Pitt and cameras zoomed in on his pants.
I'm like, it's the stupidest thing I've ever seen.
But there's one you've probably seen where it's like these child actors.
ryan long
Maybe you've seen it, I haven't seen it.
tim pool
There's this article, it's like child actresses who grew up.
And when you click it, it'll be like 25.
And in order to see the next one, you gotta load a brand new page.
ryan long
Yeah, that's the biggest scam in the book.
And they were like, look at this, 12 clicks.
And they just went through all the pages.
tim pool
And so the bounce rate's ridiculous, the retention is zero.
ryan long
20 people who are racist and you get 20 clicks because they click, number one, my dad, number two, my teacher, number three, Congress.
tim pool
Congress.
And they go through each and every Congress person.
So the people click these, then you end up with 30 clicks.
They're worthless junk clicks.
Nobody saw any ads.
ryan long
No one saw any ads.
tim pool
But then they attach that and say, here we go, we delivered the million views you wanted.
Yeah, you got it from Vice.
That was a huge problem.
I don't know if they're still doing it because they kind of all got... They are.
They are still doing it.
That's crazy.
But it's like going down, isn't it?
People aren't falling for it anymore, aren't they?
ryan long
Well, I mean, I think in this world, like yeah, there was a while in the advertising world that was like the Wild Wild West.
I remember even like doing sponsorships to people.
It was kind of one of those like the Dr. Evil thing where they're like, How much do you want for this video?
And you're like, a billion dollars.
tim pool
And then they're like, oh, a billion.
Well, it's a little high.
We'll do, how about 900 million?
ryan long
Right.
Yes, exactly.
There was a while where like these valuations were just insane.
Right.
And then you'd be like, also, can you pay for it?
And they're like, sure.
And you're like, sick.
You guys are idiots, right?
And I think that was a little bit where these kids kind of, you know, younger people go to these companies and they explain it in the way that they're, they go, no, this is just how it works.
You don't understand.
We, these are affiliated brands.
Like they don't say, no, no, no.
You're still buying Vice, but these are brands that were affiliated.
Like we own these properties and they're part of our empire.
Like they kind of sell it that.
But the other thing you even mentioned and the thing that kind of always makes me laugh is they're kind of going and saying, this is what the kids want or whatever.
But the truth is what they're saying is this is what we millennials want.
And like the younger people, the people that are 20 hate this stuff.
And millennials just can't get past the fact that like, you know, we're the same age.
Like we're not that young anymore.
tim pool
You know what I mean?
ryan long
So a lot of these millennials are going around being like, Oh, these old guys just don't get it.
It's like, you're 35, dude.
Like you could have four kids and it would be kind of normal.
tim pool
Well, this is what's funny about Vice.
Like, Vice billed itself as the scene in the street.
That's what the CEO was saying.
And just like, we got the youth, we're with it.
And at the time, like, the hires were like 40.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
They were like, they're Gen Xers, they're in their 40s.
I remember when I started working there, man, it's like, wow, it was 10 years ago almost.
Yeah.
And they did have something, but man, right around the time I started working there, it just became very corporate very, very quickly.
But the one thing I was going to mention too, it's not so much about the ad rights manipulation, where someone will say, we want to sell a million ads, a million views, and so they just throw garbage at it.
They'll also, here's what they'll do, I'll say to you, I'm gonna make a video for you, and it'll cost you 10 grand, but I guarantee you I can get your video a million views.
And they just run it on a generic ad run on YouTube or something.
ryan long
You can get it as much as you want if you pay for it.
tim pool
Exactly, but then they come back and they go, look how successful the campaign was!
It got a million views!
unidentified
A million views and three comments!
ryan long
Nine shares!
tim pool
But you can also buy bot farms.
ryan long
That's the ultimate.
That's the fraud.
That's when you're just like, you know what, let's roll the dice, F it.
I don't know, just put a million views on it and charge them a hundred grand?
Yep.
Look at a million views.
tim pool
It's ridiculous to me that it's that simple.
ryan long
Holy crap, this video popped off in Nigeria.
Look at the analytics.
lydia smith
Wow, yeah, crazy.
ryan long
All in one minute.
tim pool
We nailed the 18 to 99 demographic in India and Turkey.
No, uh, when they actually do click farms, they're sophisticated click farms.
So they can make it seem like, you know, I remember talking- Yeah, no, they're getting better at it.
They're like, do you want New York based, Florida based?
We can do hipster millennial, we can make it look like anybody.
And I can't believe this stuff is legal and they get away with it.
ryan long
It's probably.
I mean, I don't know if it's illegal.
Yeah, you're right.
I don't know.
But yeah, the one thing that just reminded me of advice is the so this is another one when they came to Canada, they were like, Okay, we want to do you know, they made this big venture deal.
So every place that goes to a different country from America, they make these crazy deals with the government where they're like, We're going to make so much content, we're going to give everyone jobs, don't you worry.
So then the government gives them tax breaks to come.
And then once they actually have to make the stuff, they're like, yeah, we're lying, we're not going to do that.
tim pool
Thanks for the money!
ryan long
Yeah, exactly.
I was doing a show at Rogers at the time and they brought me in and the guy at Rogers was like, hey, the Vice people want to talk to you.
This is like when Vice was cool before.
tim pool
Rogers is like Verizon of Canada or something?
ryan long
Yeah, exactly.
I don't know, guess what Viacom would be in terms of like... Oh, even bigger than that, huh?
Well, I don't know about the size.
I just mean in terms of like they they do have like own a bunch of TV stations.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Does Verizon own like TV properties like that?
tim pool
No, no.
Well, Rogers is like cell phones, too, I guess.
ryan long
Yeah, but they're also like AT&T.
tim pool
Yeah.
ryan long
I don't know what their portfolio like divisions look like, but they yeah, they do the cell phones.
They also own a bunch of other stuff, including TV networks and stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Right.
ryan long
But so they they came in and they were like, yeah, again, this was like when they were kind of, you know, making cool stuff and not that they don't make anything good, but it's like they're Culture department and journalist stuff is, you know, just completely garbage, right?
Yeah.
And they said, they brought me into this room and they played this video being like, yo, Vice, we want to make content that can't be made in a boardroom.
And we're all watching this from a boardroom.
And everyone looked around being like, they can't be serious.
Like the lack of self-awareness to play us a video that says we want to make stuff that can't ever be talked about in a boardroom, sitting in a boardroom, you go, you guys are cooked, dude.
They don't even like, they've stopped even pretending to like care.
tim pool
It's kind of sad though, man, because when I first, the first time I went to Vice, I walk into this rickety old building in Brooklyn.
ryan long
Kickflip through the front door.
tim pool
There was literally a skate ramp in the Vice building in the early days because it was a skate shop and skate park.
I go upstairs and all the bosses are sitting in the exact same room with just exposed brick walls and crappy desks, sitting side by side working with people.
And then within, you know, I don't know, six, seven months, it was like everything was remodeled, redone, corporate, brought in HR department.
I'm like, man, this is not fun anymore.
This is like, it was, it went from like when I first started, Also, can you write articles about why you suck?
ryan long
You're like, yeah, especially because you're like a journalist, right?
You're like, you know, you were kind of, I guess, attracted to when there people are going to doing these docs in Russia and that.
They're like, hey, can you go to like Wall Street and do a documentary about why you suck?
You know, it doesn't seem as fun.
tim pool
Well, I mean, it seems plastic now.
It used to be fun.
So I'm like, I got a crazy idea.
I want to write this ridiculous article about, you know, crazy BS.
ryan long
And they'd be like, yeah, you're in your 20s doing fun stuff.
tim pool
Yeah, now then it became plastic, where it was like, OK, we've got, you know, we used to have this gritty, fun and exciting youth kind of, you know, edgy outlet.
Now let's fit it into a package, slap the brand on it and ship it out nationwide for Christmas.
ryan long
And then they're like, we don't want this.
And then they go, show them the half pipe again.
And they go, look, we've got a hive pipe, you've got to buy this.
tim pool
You know what it feels like?
It feels like there was some young edgy dudes who were having a wild adventure and then they saw their opportunity and they said, here's the franchise formula, have a nice day.
ryan long
Yeah, the clickbait formula.
You know what's funny?
You mentioned you saw my one where it was like Fox and CNN and I was kind of making fun of them.
tim pool
Yeah, that was so good.
ryan long
Yeah, how to sell footage to Fox and CNN.
Like, the same thing at Vice.
Like, I always kind of rag on these organizations, but when I made that video, there was people at Fox and CNN that were both like, dude, I work there, and it's honestly kind of like that, and I hate it.
So there are real journalists that, you know, work at these organizations that, the same reason, like, you know, in Canada, I've worked at these, you know, made TV shows at these places that have that culture, where from the outside, you're like, this place is junk, and there's a lot of people there that are like, yeah, dude, I hate this too.
I'm trying to make some cool stuff, and I'm getting shut down at every, so.
tim pool
These people gotta speak up, like, blow the whistle, and just talk about the culture.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
Look, I had a contract, I wanted to leave, I left, and I just, like, dude, I'm never gonna sign an NDA on that stuff, I'll come out and say it.
Here's what happened, here's what they told me to do, it was whack, they told me to lie in this way and that way, I'll just say it.
ryan long
Vice?
tim pool
No, Vice was crazy!
Vice was like, I'd walk in a room and I'd be like, I'm going to Turkey and they'd be like,
can you, when can you leave?
Go in the room, get body armor and just let me know when you're at the airport.
Like it was kind of awesome.
ryan long
I love the idea of when you got fired or not, I'm sure you quit or whatever.
Yeah, I quit.
Yeah, yeah.
When you quit Vice, they're like, all right, you need to turn in your trucks.
tim pool
My trucks, oh, no, no, no.
When I quit Vice, they were like.
ryan long
And your guitar picks.
tim pool
When I quit, they were like, you didn't quit.
And I was like, yeah, I did.
And they were like, nobody quits.
ryan long
Nobody quits.
And your tech decks.
tim pool
Keep it coming.
All the tech decks.
I had to turn in my official... No, they gave me, like, I have a vice ring, you know?
ryan long
Oh, you got the vice ring.
What is that?
You've been there for how many years?
Did you get the vice ring?
tim pool
No, I don't know.
I don't know, but I was there and I got it.
ryan long
Vice loves paying people in capital other than money.
You're like, how about cool points?
You get a vice badge.
There's a ring.
You're like, I'd like a raise because I'm getting paid 20 grand a year.
How about a ring?
What does that do for you?
tim pool
And then when you're like, oh, I can't pay my rent with the ring, they're like, woo.
They're like shining it, and it's like, woo.
ryan long
Did we tell you we're having a rave next week?
Does that do anything for you?
tim pool
They literally do those things.
ryan long
I know, I've been to one.
tim pool
But you know, it's been a while.
Look, I still have a lot of respect for a lot of people over there.
Of course.
But they treated it like a cult.
So when I was leaving, it was straight up like, Nobody nobody quits, and I had a bunch of I have friends I had friends with it who stayed there for a long time And they were like what do you mean?
You're quitting nobody quits, and I was like dude.
I'm not gonna like I do my thing I'm on a path of success if at any point.
I feel like it's not working for me I go my own way, and they were shocked because everybody was so desperate to work there the line was out the door and But look, you know, I could see what was happening.
It was, look, the company made a lot of money.
It's a very successful business, but it wasn't a culture that I wanted to be a part of at a certain point.
It's becoming corporate.
ryan long
You can feel the energy.
I mean, like, you know, anyone who gets good at any of this kind of stuff, you feel the energy when it's growing and you feel the energy of when something's like becoming stale and being on the wrong side of, you know, what, especially like the new movements are and stuff like that.
tim pool
Right.
ryan long
You know, you're like, you guys are about to go into corporate-treaded territory and I don't want to be part of that.
tim pool
Yeah, and very early on, because I was only there for like a year and a half.
ryan long
Very early on, it was my... You got the ring after a year and a half?
tim pool
I was only there for a year and a half.
Well, to be fair though, I was like a good get for them, you know?
ryan long
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that was part of the package.
They proposed to you, it's like, Tim, will you be a journalist of us?
tim pool
Kind of, yes, absolutely.
No, no, it was like, after some amount of time, they were like, how can we make sure this guy doesn't want to leave?
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
Did you get your vice tattoo covered up?
had this power of the vice brand that everybody loved so much, nobody would quit.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
And there's some internal stuff where.
ryan long
Did you get your vice tattoo covered up?
tim pool
Oh, definitely.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's a butterfly.
I don't have any tattoos actually.
ryan long
But it's a lower back vice tattoo.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Lower back, right.
No, they, they, they, they actually said to me like you didn't quit.
And I was like, I did.
And they're like, this isn't over.
And I was like, it's over.
lydia smith
You're not breaking up.
tim pool
I cashed the check for the other company.
And it's funny, because I saw what was happening.
And so I figured, when I got reached, so I got this recruiting company reached out to me that was, you know, it was ABC News Univision.
And they were like, we want to be like Vice.
We want to be that edgy, young, And so I thought to myself, if this is where things are kind of going, and I feel like I'm gonna be underpaid here, why not just go to the big company and have full control?
ryan long
And they're becoming that anyway!
tim pool
Exactly.
So I was like, if you want to be in that culture and be like that, why wouldn't I just go to the company that's already got the cash and is going to pony up the big bucks?
ryan long
That's obviously the move.
I mean, you want to do those jobs when you're in your early 20s and then you make a couple big moves in your life if you're going to stay in that world.
tim pool
You know, I had a conversation with someone from Vice, and the general idea was, they were like, if you leave, you lose the cool factor.
Oh no!
Jokes on them, the cool factor went to the floor.
It was a springboard for a lot of people.
Right, for sure, for sure.
Yeah, definitely lost that.
But at the time it was- Cool factor.
Now it is.
Now it's cringe factor.
At the time it was like, if you stay here and you do more of these videos, because I did a video with Kim Dotcom, the hacker dude.
ryan long
Kim K, got it.
tim pool
Yeah, and it got like, for sure, it got like 5 million views overnight.
And so Vice was hot on social media and YouTube, and it was like, if you leave, you're not going to get this kind of recognition.
You'll make more money.
ryan long
They're really selling that, eh?
That's their whole thing.
tim pool
And you know what I said was?
I was like, dude, those videos that got all those views, that's me getting those views, not you.
And so, you know, because I had already gotten a ton of views on a ton of content, but they were really, you know, going for that.
So I ended up leaving this company.
And here's the point of the story.
I got no problem saying, here's what all these companies did.
I'll say it straight up.
We need more people to do that.
Like the things you're mentioning about these tech companies, how they sell ads, the fake game they play, the marketing companies that are telling people to get woke.
And then it results in trash content nobody wants.
But the point I was making before about how it's kind of like an anchor, is that once you get woke, you don't go back.
ryan long
No, you can't, because the culture's too ingrained, you know?
It's like, again, once you've... You basically tell everyone, hey, if we do something else, we're racist.
Everyone's like, got it.
And then you come back, you're like, hey, we're gonna do something else.
And they're like, but that's racist.
tim pool
Yeah, and then nobody will move.
But you know what it's like?
You ever see that... You ever hear of that experiment they did with, like, the chimps?
And they put them in this room.
ryan long
Had sex with them all?
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
And everyone got diseases.
No, they put a ladder.
ryan long
Me and my boys.
tim pool
I don't know exactly how they did it, but it's like an urban legend.
I'm pretty sure it's a true story.
They put this stool in a room, and they put fruit on top, and they had a bunch of chimps.
And any time a chimp would try and climb the ladder to get the fruit, they'd spray them with the hose.
So then eventually, if any chimp tried to get the food, the other chimps... They'd beat the other chimp out.
Then one by one, they'd swap.
ryan long
It's the crab in a bucket theories, you know?
tim pool
So one by one, they would switch the chimp out.
Then they'd put in a new chimp.
Yes.
ryan long
And they got rid of the hose.
There's a bunch of, there's different versions of that experiment.
I've actually seen a different one, but I know exactly what you're talking about.
And eventually no one knows why they're doing it.
tim pool
Exactly.
So here's what happens.
You get some guy at a tech company, I'm sorry, at a media company, and they're sitting there
scratching their beard, you know, and their man bun, and they're like.
ryan long
Getting the Vice tattoo on their neck.
tim pool
And while they're sitting there, they're thinking to themselves, like, how can we boost views?
They're like, let's try some, like, woke feminist stuff.
They do it.
They get some marginal boost from, like, shock content.
It's rage bait.
This guy gets a promotion and leaves.
He gets replaced by a new woke guy.
And now you have a whole room full of woke people who have no idea why they're doing it.
And they'll never give it up.
ryan long
It just becomes a genre.
It always happens in comedy too, it's like the thing that you're making fun of becomes obsolete, but the thing... Like for example, you know if you were talking about, you know the cop shows that are like, hey Riggs, you know, we're gonna do... whatever, right?
You know what, I'll say this first because it was making me laugh in my head.
The idea of you retired from Vice and then Vice being like, can you come back, do an article?
And you're like, you know, I don't do that anymore.
I don't do it anymore, Shane.
One last job.
One last job.
There's crack smokers in Russia.
tim pool
I'm sitting here and I'm like, no.
And then they like open a briefcase and it's a bunch of rigs.
ryan long
Yeah, yeah, it's just a ring it's in and look I think yeah, yeah, I couldn't get through my boy cuz I was making myself It's a briefcase with a one-way.
tim pool
Yeah, and you're like, all right one last job Get me my plaid shirt With rolled-up sleeves and then it's like that it's writing an article and it's like the the crack addicted coal miners Siberia And you're like, why can't someone else do it?
ryan long
They're like, they can't talk to the crack addicted coal miners.
It's only you that have the skills to infiltrate.
tim pool
You think you're telling me a joke?
Let me tell you a story.
One of the things that I got pitched when I was there was a story about in South South American mountains where the men have to climb up and like do mining on like mountaintops or whatever.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
The women can't survive up there as long as the men can because of... Typical.
ryan long
Absolutely.
tim pool
Well, so this is what I was told.
That the women have a harder time surviving because of the thin air.
So the men work up there for really long periods of time, but they get lonely.
And because women can't come up, other men have to dress up like women and service the other men.
And that was literally a Vice story and I was asked, like, would you want to go to these mountains and like...
Interview this, do a video.
I'm like, that sounds like us.
ryan long
Girls putting a wig on and jerking off dudes.
tim pool
Dudes doing, putting wigs on.
Yeah, we are not family friendly anymore.
ryan long
This sounds like the South Park episode.
tim pool
No, I wasn't.
I was like, when's the plane leave?
unidentified
I was like, I'll parachute in, land me on top of the mountain.
ryan long
You come in, you land on the person servicing the guy.
Oh no, too close for comfort!
You ever seen the South Park episode where the cops taking down the Johns by pretending to be a pedophile dressing up?
That's you, you have to dress up like the wig.
tim pool
He gets married to the pimp and it's like ten years later.
ryan long
You're six guys in but you have a GoPro on your head.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
ryan long
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
You'd be surprised.
Like when I was in, when I was in Venezuela.
Yeah.
ryan long
You have to work undercover for seven months.
tim pool
I almost went to prison.
ryan long
Really?
tim pool
I was in Venezuela.
I had some high profile Venezuelan dude accused me of being a spy.
All of a sudden I'm getting attacked online, like 10,000 tweets in a few minutes saying like, we're coming for you.
You know, we're going to find you.
Things like that.
ryan long
From people in Venezuela?
Yeah.
tim pool
While I was in Venezuela.
ryan long
How did they see you in the first place?
tim pool
So I had posted something on Instagram.
I was like, it's no big deal.
I took a picture of the protest or whatever and uploaded it.
ryan long
And they could tell that you were a journalist?
And that's what they mean by spy?
tim pool
No, they straight up said I was a spy.
They said I was working for the CIA.
So it was actually American leftists.
started tweeting at the guy saying Tim Pool works for the CIA and he's in your country.
And so the dude saw it, went on his show and he started showing pictures of me and he was like
look he's here he's here and started showing pictures of corpses in Ukraine claiming like
I had killed them or something like crazy crazy stuff. And so what was that what I was told from
Vice was can you make this the story? And I was like can you can you send me a helicopter please?
So the first thing I did as soon as it happened, I was like, airport, airport, airport.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
Talked to security and they were like, it was the middle of the night, you gotta wait till the sun cracks, because you don't want to get killed.
Sun cracked, got in the cab, got to the airport, got on that plane, and I was sitting outside the gate, waiting for boarding, and that's what I was asked by the guy's advice.
They were like, why don't you just, you know, this is the story.
And I was like, they're gonna throw me in prison, dude.
Yeah, yeah.
I called my family.
ryan long
And you're like, they're like, sick, right?
tim pool
They were like, well, you'll be fine.
And I talked to my family.
ryan long
Do you know how many articles you could write from prison, dude?
tim pool
No, you wouldn't write any, but then like, so I was talking to my family.
ryan long
I murdered a guy and did 15 years in prison.
tim pool
That probably is.
lydia smith
I'm sure it is.
ryan long
It's a big long piece.
tim pool
No, but I was talking to some family members and they said, well, if you go to prison, you'll probably in for a couple, you'll be in for a couple of years, but the state department will eventually get, will eventually get you out.
And then you can write a book about it.
ryan long
Prison in there?
tim pool
In Venezuela.
ryan long
Everyone you talk to is like, dude, this can be great for your career.
You're like, Can someone get me out of here?
Does anyone care?
Your lawyer is like, you're like, hey, okay, so I need a lawyer right now.
He's like, let me ask you a question.
Have you started writing?
What kind of, are you using your laptop?
tim pool
Now, what kind of percentage can we talk about?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ryan long
Your lawyer thinks you're calling him to negotiate the book deal.
tim pool
The point I was bringing up with my family member was not that they were encouraging me to go to prison, it was they were like, that's the mentality of what they're thinking.
They want you to stay because then they could have this international insight.
Our journalist was there, he was totally on the level.
I'm not saying that's actually what they wanted, Yeah, they wouldn't hurt.
necessarily.
Yeah, they wouldn't hurt.
But that's what my family member thought they were going for.
Like some people in my family were just like, eh, it sounds like.
And so I was like, I'm going to be on that plane.
And I remember sitting on that plane and I was just like sweating bullets waiting.
And then as soon as the wheels lifted off the ground, I was like, yes.
When I got back, one of the interns advice was Venezuelan was he ran up to me, he's like,
how did you get out?
And I was like, what do you mean?
He's like, how did you get out?
And I was just like, I went to the airport, got on a plane, left there like, wow.
And I was just like, I went to the airport, got on a plane, left there like, wow.
Because they throw people in prison for way less than what they accused you of.
Because they throw people in prison for way less than what they accused you of being an
Being an American spy.
American spy.
And then somebody hacked my family's accounts, phones, they hacked my Facebook account.
And then somebody hacked my family's accounts, phones.
They hacked my Facebook account.
Like, dude, this is the craziest thing.
Like, dude, this is the craziest thing.
A friend of mine I hadn't talked to in like six years messaged me saying, you need to call me immediately.
The FBI is asking about you.
And I was like, this is probably like something to do with what happened.
ryan long
So I- Female body inspectors.
tim pool
I call him and he doesn't answer.
I call him several times.
He doesn't answer.
Finally, he calls me back like four hours later and he's like, why are you calling me, dude?
And I was like, you told me to call you.
He was like, we talked, I haven't talked to you in like four or five years, bro.
And I was like, I got a message from you on Facebook And he was like, dude, I didn't message you.
I haven't talked to you in years.
I sent him a screenshot of it and he was like, bro, I never messaged you.
And so I talked to some of my cybersecurity friends and they said it was a... I want cybersecurity friends.
A messaging injection attack.
And what they think happened was that the Venezuelan cybersecurity infrastructure was trying to get me to make a phone call from inside the country so they could find out where I was.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Really?
But I was back in the States.
So when I called him, it didn't do anything.
And then because I'm a funny guy, I used a GPS spoofer and then I tweeted something like
these arepas are delicious.
And then I made my GPS location Venezuela.
Really?
I was like, there you go, guys.
ryan long
You outsmarted them.
tim pool
No, I don't think I actually did anything.
You know, I have no idea.
But they did hack all of my stuff.
They hacked my Facebook, you know.
There was like an unknown login and stuff, and so that's freaky.
ryan long
I've had a few of those, dude.
I had a guy that sent me, he's like, this is your password.
This was like a month ago.
And it was like, I've got your password, and I've been watching you through your webcam or whatever, and you need to send me money.
tim pool
Someone did that to you?
ryan long
Yeah, dude, it was like a month ago.
But it was in my spam, and I was looking for another email, so I saw my spam, and it was like a month ago.
But he had my password right.
tim pool
Wow.
unidentified
And I was like, yeah, but you know, I don't know, man.
tim pool
Sometimes people, I don't know.
It's weird.
Like what's it going to get from you?
ryan long
I don't know.
I'm sure.
Yeah.
Someone stupider would have been like, I don't know, here's $2,000, whatever it is.
Like, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ryan long
Some rich dude, they're like, hey, we're going to send all your like, I mean, to be fair, if someone was in my group chats right now and was like, hey, we have like, I just have a transcript of all your group chats and I'm going to release them all.
I'd be like, here's my house.
Would you like to have sex with my girlfriend?
Like, I mean, just you give me the list of demands.
Here's my mom, whatever you need, because this cannot get out.
tim pool
So I actually want to talk about one more thing because we're getting, we're getting close to super chat time, but yeah.
We were talking about Woke, College Campus, all these jokes, and it reminds me of a man, Jerry Seinfeld.
Because he's the one who kind of sparked a lot of this conversation around college campus comedy.
And now he's in the news because he's the one saying New York is fine.
ryan long
Yes.
tim pool
We're seeing a bunch of articles.
We got, I think you mentioned this earlier, we got the story from the Post, actually from James, how do you pronounce his name, Altucher?
ryan long
Yes, James Altucher is my friend, too.
tim pool
He said, New York City is dead forever.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
Is he right?
ryan long
Well, this is kind of a... The truth is, who knows?
And even James doesn't know, necessarily.
But the first thing is, first, I've never seen anything with more hate.
Like, anything I've done, anything a lot of my friends have done, where people go, the whole internet goes, you're the worst!
The only thing I've seen like this was when Ari Shaffir did the Kobe thing, and everyone on the internet was like, this guy is... Basically, when he said New York City's dead forever, people basically saw it as if he went to the Twin Towers the day they came down and spit on the ashes.
I don't know if you were following this at all, but the amount of visceral hate.
I was doing comedy shows in New York still, and I would talk to comics,
the people would be talking about it, and they go, that guy's an idiot.
Like, there's a snot.
So anyway, so Jerry Seinfeld, I guess, was like that, and then he goes, it's not dead, you're an idiot.
Like, you're wrong, like, F you, you're stupid, you're a putz.
He called him a putz, which is pretty funny.
James Altucher's going back to him, he goes, at least Jerry Seinfeld wrote some new jokes,
like stuff like that.
Wow, so Altutur's taking some pretty contrarian takes here.
He's sort of saying, here's my list of what, I think he's doubled down since people got mad at him.
I don't know how much of this, you know, when you make a video every week, he does two articles a week.
He may have been kind of being hyperbolic and not realized how much he's putting it out.
tim pool
I agree with him.
I mean, I'm not in New York, so I'm sure people, but I think, Seinfeld doesn't know.
ryan long
He didn't say any good rebuttals.
He just goes, no it's not.
tim pool
And he doesn't even live there.
ryan long
No, he doesn't even live there.
He's in the Hamptons and stuff, right?
But you live there.
I live there now.
I'm in the thick, dude.
tim pool
Is it dead?
ryan long
I'm full Canadian-American patriot right now.
lydia smith
I love it.
tim pool
But what do you think?
I mean, living there in the city.
ryan long
I've been saying that it's funny because everywhere you look on the TV, it's like everyone's locked in their houses.
The pandemic.
If I go outside my house, it's a carnival.
There is literally guys selling stuff on the street.
Everyone's walking around without a mask.
No one cares for the most part.
So they basically said, OK, we're going to let bars do street bars.
If you go to certain corners, like in the East Village, it's like New Orleans.
Basically, the street's blocked off.
There's a street party.
Everyone's partying on the streets.
Well, you can't get evicted, right?
Yeah, I don't know if that's true.
tim pool
Can you get evicted?
ryan long
I don't know.
Probably.
I mean, I think if a landlord came up to you and they're like, yo, you're evicted, you're like, yeah, I'm not going anywhere, so go sue me, I guess.
Yeah, go to the landlord courts.
And then the landlord courts would be like, yeah, I mean, there's a nine-month waiting list.
And even then, probably not.
And you'd be like, I think you would just have to eat it if your tenant stopped paying rent.
tim pool
Yeah, well I think that's one of the big challenges now.
For one thing, people are buying up properties like crazy.
They're definitely leaving New York, they're leaving California.
San Francisco's got like a 96% inventory increase from people fleeing the city.
But people are leaving.
And so it's like when I read this article saying New York was dead, and then I read all of these things like the amount of businesses that are permanently closed, the half a million middle-to-upper-class people who have fled already, not to mention that more are leaving inventory for, you know, 13,000 empty apartment buildings, or vacant buildings, I believe.
And then you got homeless people being put in these hotels in like the Upper East and West Side, like these richer areas, like these wealthier areas.
ryan long
Yeah, people are just like, No, I sort of misinterpreted your last question.
I thought you meant, what's it like in general?
I actually forgot that we were relating it back to this article of whether- Oh, New York is dead.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean- No, no, no, no.
tim pool
I think what you said is interesting.
ryan long
Yeah, but I think that it is true that a lot of the points he made, and there is this thing where how long can you push it and push it and push it?
I mean, this is what happened in Silicon Valley, right?
And I think a lot of what James thinks, too, and not putting words in his mouth, is like when Joe Rogan kind of said, like, all right, LA, enough's enough.
I'm out of here, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
ryan long
And whether that had to do with tax breaks, who knows, right?
But eventually, and people kind of a little think it has anything to do with taxes.
Maybe not. Right. So I think a lot of people kind of got it.
They're like, yo, LA's been pushing their luck, right?
They've just said, you know, we can do whatever we want because we're Los Angeles and everyone wants to live here.
And New York kind of feels like that, too.
We'll have way higher taxes and F you.
Everyone still wants to be here.
And there's a point where it's like everything else is opening back up.
People have started working remotely and they like it and it works and you go, this is better.
So there is a point where other places start looking more attractive and then everyone moved to Silicon Valley to Austin.
And now Austin, they're starting to regulate and do all this stuff and they're kind of like, all right, we got to find a new place.
It seems like the people that like freedom and not regulation kind of always go on the run.
Then those places get good.
Then everyone comes there and then they crack down again and they find somewhere else to go.
tim pool
I can't believe so many- I keep hearing from so many people they're moving to Austin.
And I'm like, that's exactly why I'm not gonna do it.
ryan long
Yeah, Austin.
I think the people that moved Austin, the Peter Thiel's of the world, well I don't know if he moved there, but the hymns of the world that are like, Silicon Valley's out of control, the group conformity is too much, the innovation's dying because the regular, whatever it is, right?
Housings are too high, all of this stuff, right?
So they basically all moved Austin in my, like it seems like over the last four or three years kind of thing.
And then now, it's sort of caught up where Austin's back to where Silicon Valley is now.
tim pool
Right.
You know, I think it's South by Southwest, too.
I remember the first time I went to South by, I was so excited I got invited to speak.
And then I was like, this is a lie.
The whole thing was a lie.
Like, nobody cared about anything going on.
It was just an excuse to go hang out with your buddies.
It was like all these Silicon Valley dudes getting drunk.
And I was like, that's cool if that's your thing.
ryan long
Dude, that's like Burning Man.
You're like, this cool hippie thing.
And you're like, everyone here works on Wall Street.
tim pool
Yeah, and you show up and they're like in luxury.
That's why I have friends who are like, I love going to Burning Man.
And I'm like, they did a Quiznos commercial there, dude.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm sorry, man.
That's why I'm like, look.
ryan long
I'm not hanging out with a Silicon Valley guy and this dude with moon shoes and dreadlocks on.
tim pool
Yeah, no, no, no.
You know what I think would be really cool and I think we need is people need to go make their own places.
I was looking at a bunch of really small towns in the middle of nowhere that were dying out.
ryan long
Yeah, that's kind of what you're doing a little bit, right?
tim pool
A little bit, but... You're one step away from seasteading.
Well, I mean, that'd be cool too.
ryan long
Dude, the Tim Pool complex?
tim pool
Just get like a big mega yacht and just go off and be like armed guards and, you know, fight off pirates.
No, but like, wouldn't it be cool if, you know, all these rich people, they're going to Austin.
And I'm like, but why?
It's, it's, it's gonna, you give it 10 years and it'll be exactly what you left.
Because all these people are rushing, they're like, I want to go somewhere that's cool and hip and California's gross.
And it's like, dude, California had one party rule forever.
They have a supermajority in LA and they couldn't pass any of these reforms to fix their problems.
And all these people are going to go to Austin, who don't care about Austin.
They're going to go to these areas of Texas, they don't care about Texas, and you're going to get the same problem.
People move to L.A.
They're not from L.A.
So they don't care about the community's problems.
So they pass the buck, L.A.
falls to crap, and they move again.
They bounce around.
It's like the aliens from Independence Day.
You see that movie?
They come to Earth because they're going to strip it clean of resources and then leave.
So I'm just like, nah.
ryan long
And I do get that because I'm not from New York and there's all this, you know, when people are like, can you believe he said that about New York?
And I was like, what do I care?
Like, I'm Canadian.
I'm like, you know, I'm here because it's like a good place to do stand up and it is a hub of the world for culture.
And I think the best comedy in the world is happening there, especially right now.
unidentified
Was.
ryan long
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
I'm half kidding.
I'm half kidding.
You're right, dude.
ryan long
You're right.
tim pool
What was that story where like a comedy club did an outdoor event and they got shut down?
ryan long
Yeah, they basically allowed them and then they shut them down.
So I got an email last week from a lot of people being like, yeah, that show's canceled or whatever.
tim pool
That's so dumb.
Here's what I'm saying.
ryan long
They're pushing their luck.
That's what they're saying.
They go, no one's going anywhere.
And everyone's like, yeah, we kind of will, though.
tim pool
Go to, I don't know, Nebraska or something.
There's tons of open space.
Build your own place.
ryan long
You're moving, like, people will move for what they want to do.
I mean, I just did.
Like, I was in Toronto.
I didn't like the way that it was shaking down there.
I saw something here, and I felt like I could make a better life, and then I moved here.
tim pool
See, but now, you see, this is exactly what I'm talking about, right?
See, these people, these communists in California moved to Austin, and this, like you, a Canadian communist, you moved to, I'm just kidding.
When did you come down from Canada?
Less than a year ago.
ryan long
I want half your views on this.
We should split the views.
Our views.
No, yes, they are my views.
Our views.
Yes, we will split the views on this.
tim pool
Our video.
ryan long
Now let's get these super chats since I'm taking half of the money.
tim pool
When did you come down from Canada?
ryan long
Less than a year ago.
tim pool
So before COVID?
ryan long
Yeah, so I was here whack timing.
tim pool
He snuck in.
ryan long
Yeah, dude, I got, um, I came here, uh, and then I did like four or five months, you know, enough to make some, you know, meet people and get into all these comedy clubs and then boom, COVID.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
So now you're trapped.
ryan long
Yeah, it's okay.
I like New York.
I mean, lots of cool stuff's happening right now.
So it's, it's fine, man.
I mean, people are innovative, right?
It's like even this go back to, listen, like what happened in the last little while the industry was so, Uh, we only want this one type of thing and then look at people like you that created your whole little empire here, right?
And I mean, same thing, the whole podcasting empire, like all of those people would have had TV shows five years ago, but they're like, we don't want this type of guy on TV.
And it's like, you know, essentially people are very inventive and especially the certain there, you know, one, I would say like one in a hundred people in America has the values of like, I'm going to accomplish what I would like to do no matter what.
And even at one in a hundred, that's three million people that are willing to do anything to get what they want, right?
So if you say, okay, we don't want this type of comedy, it's like, okay, we'll create our own thing.
And there's a lot of people that are willing to do whatever it takes in America, and I think that's one of the things I like about it here.
tim pool
So do you think these big industry, like, so Netflix did have a Rogan special, they had a Dave Chappelle special, do you think these- So those are the, but those are legacy people, right?
Like there is a point- Exactly.
ryan long
Where you get so big, and you know the truth is I even disagree with, not necessarily Rogan, but the way Ricky Gervais talks about cancer culture and jokes, I disagree with him, like, because his take on that sort of thing is always, Oh, it's just jokes.
Like you should be able to joke about anything, but a lot of times I'm saying these jokes and my audience knows I'm ironic and they actually know the right opinions.
So he basically says, and I know if you're in that position, he might need to say, no, I'm one of the good guys.
I'm just making jokes.
But the truth is when Ricky Gervais says that, he's like, you know, let's say he has a whole thing making fun of Caitlyn Jenner, like saying that she's not actually hot or whatever, right?
And they go, okay.
They're not laughing at that because they actually know it's wrong.
They're laughing at that because it's a little bit true and they know they're not supposed to laugh at it.
And there's a lot of components to the formula.
One of them being they're not supposed to.
One of them being like it's a little bit true but you're not supposed to say it.
And it's sometimes they are laughing at something that is like obviously not true.
You know like if I said like oh yeah I'm just very racist like everyone's like he's obviously being ironic or whatever.
So, but the way that they talk about it is they go, no, I'm playing a character and my audience is so not racist that everyone knows.
And it's like, sometimes, but sometimes you're saying uncomfortable truths.
And that's why you're getting like a laugh of people being like, that is kind of true.
And they don't take credit for that.
And because they don't take credit for that, other people kind of, uh, you know, kind of end up having to play in a dishonest ballpark because, so I, I'd rather some of those people just like, just stay out of it if you're going to lie.
tim pool
You know, it's really weird.
I think somehow Trump has become the center of the cultural universe.
ryan long
He has, dude.
That's why I was saying, sorry, I keep interrupting you.
No, no, no.
The funnier option forever, to me, was Trump wins again.
Forever.
Of course.
Forever.
I was like, Trump wins again, you know, meltdowns.
And then very recently I started to sort of change my brain where I go, maybe the funnier option is Trump loses.
And just think of every like anti-Trump blog, every anti-Trump blog, you know what I mean?
Every reply guy on Twitter that his whole identity is hating Trump.
I was thinking about doing a video of this actually, but like the day after Trump wins, they're just like, I guess Pat Garbage deletes his Twitter account, just walks off into the ocean.
Just slowly sinks.
That might be the funnier option now.
tim pool
They're actually talking about it.
They're talking about the future after Trump.
Because all these media companies, it's just Trump.
I remember last week Trump bought the front page ad for the Washington Post online.
Every article, Trump.
And I'm like, he just bought the front page ad, dude.
unidentified
You didn't need to give him every other portion of the front page.
tim pool
It's like he didn't even need to buy it.
No, but he was, he was trying to push back and, and, and make, you know, Biden and Kamala look bad.
But that's, that's, I mean, what, what, I know people who have made a career, a pathetic career off of just hating Trump.
ryan long
I mean, it's the oldest trick in the book to build a media company in an election cycle or whatever.
Anyone who starts a blog and all that stuff, they kind of know how you do it.
But they didn't even do that this time.
They didn't start media companies on an election cycle.
They started a media company on a guy.
That's insane!
You know, and there are some people, you know, I mean, there's that girl that's like getting
a Netflix special.
Her whole shtick is that she lip syncs like Trump speeches or whatever.
Yeah.
tim pool
She didn't even write jokes.
ryan long
And whatever you want to think about it, it's like, what happens like to her if Trump's
like just gone?
Yeah.
Trump's like just a guy now, you know, think about these people.
It's like, I have a whole YouTube channel about why Trump's bad.
Now he's just a guy.
tim pool
They're going to keep doing it.
ryan long
Yeah, they just follow him around to his house?
tim pool
For real, for real, yeah.
So, uh, what is this woman's name?
Do you know her name?
ryan long
Like, look what Trump ate yesterday!
Haha, he's racist, dude.
tim pool
It's gonna be, like, 80-year-old Trump in a wheelchair with a blanket on his lap in the sun.
He's gonna be sitting there, and he's gonna just be, like, watching Fox News, and they're gonna be writing articles about it.
ryan long
Trump reads the game.
tim pool
They're gonna be like, did you see Trump's latest wheelchair?
Look at his nurse.
His latest nurse.
How old is she?
unidentified
40?
tim pool
Trump, going for the young women.
How despicable.
ryan long
Yeah, they're gonna have to pick a new guy.
They're gonna be like, I don't know, Pence is bad.
It's not the same!
tim pool
There's two things.
Pence is so boring.
ryan long
They're not getting the same buzz.
tim pool
There's two things, I think.
They'll still rag on Trump.
They'll try for a long time.
So they'll keep going.
The other thing is that they'll do the exact same thing they do, but without Trump.
So they'll, you know, like if you look at CNN, Who's the new boogeyman after Trump's gone?
No, but Trumpism.
It'll be about his followers.
They'll maintain the same narrative and they will just keep going after.
It's like the painting exists.
They'll take Trump out of it, but the whole landscape, it's still there.
So I think what's likely to happen is, you got these companies, CNN, their whole Sunday morning program is literally like Fox News all day every day.
And I make fun of him all the time for it, because I'm like, dude, you realize you guys are just the Fox News review channel, right?
ryan long
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Like, when I complain about the mainstream media, it's always like, it's a bunch of different outlets, and I'm complaining, and I often say, not every single journalist at these outlets, of course.
It's these, like, political, you know, politicos in the Beltway in D.C.
But they literally have a show where it's like, the dude wrote a book about Fox News!
That's all he has!
That's crazy!
And Trump, when Trump's gone, that schtick they've developed, it's not going to go away.
I mean, look, Russia, you're familiar with Russia games?
ryan long
I'm not saying necessarily it'll go away.
I'm more saying that no one's going to want to watch it.
So they can keep doing it and they'll be like, we'll keep doing the plug in the model.
It's like, instead of being like, can you believe what Trump said?
They'll just have to, you know, can you believe, I don't know, like they'll pick another guy, right?
But I don't think anyone's going to care.
Like what gets the clicks is Trump goes out, says some crazy stuff, you know, And then they go, look at this crazy stuff he's saying!
And then the right-wing publications go, look at this crazy stuff they're saying!
tim pool
It's not even about what Trump says.
ryan long
It's like, Trump will- Stirs up some energy and they get to write an article.
tim pool
They stir it up.
I mean, sometimes Trump, for sure.
Trump loves stirring- I'm almost swearing.
Trump loves to stir it up.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
But there'll be times where, like, Trump will walk into a room and they'll go, thank you all for coming.
And they'll go- And they'll be writing like, did you hear what he said?
Thank you all.
What is you all?
Who's all?
ryan long
Yeah, the soccer.
They're like soccer players that got injured.
The entire CNN organization.
tim pool
That's the perfect way to explain it.
Trump walks in and pats him on the shoulder and CNN goes, oh!
They fall down and they're like, they're writing 50 articles.
What was that one article we were talking about from The Nation?
It was like they took every single possible negative stereotype about, it was like about
Ivanka or something.
lydia smith
Yeah, so they wrote an entire article about Ivanka's dress or something?
tim pool
And it just like crammed keywords into this article where it was like, white nationalists
think that transgender feminists in the patriarchy with red dresses, and it's like, it was very
clearly a nonsensical article, had no premise, and they stuffed all the keywords into it
so they could put it on Google and Google would prop it up.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
That's like, that's the name of the game.
But no, I think- That's wild.
It is funny.
I'll tell you this.
When Trump won in 2016, I laughed harder than I've laughed.
It was like one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
It was because, for one, for me, it was like cathartic.
The Democrats getting comeuppance, you know?
They cheated Bernie.
They thought they were going to win.
They made fun of Trump.
They mocked his supporters.
ryan long
Did anyone puritanical like losing the battle that it paints their entire identity of?
It's always like, heh heh.
tim pool
And so right now, you bring up an interesting point.
Because I've said this too, I've said if Biden wins, I'm just going to laugh.
I'm going to laugh really, really hard.
ryan long
Yeah.
Funny either way, I think at this point.
tim pool
I'm worried.
I'm worried.
So I'm going to be voting for Trump.
And the riots are the main... Are you going full MAGA?
ryan long
You get a MAGA beanie?
tim pool
No MAGA.
People want me to wear that.
ryan long
Dude, that'd be so funny.
tim pool
I don't like voting.
I don't like supporting any tribe or any party or anything like that.
But I'll tell you this.
With all the riots, especially how bad it was last night, the only reason the Democrats came out now... This is so messed up.
They've been saying peaceful protests over and over again, nonstop.
And then Don Lemon comes out on CNN and he's like, this is starting to show up in the polls.
Democrats better address it.
It's like, oh, is that the only thing you cared about?
That made me angry.
And so, you know, seeing all this this death, 32 people have died.
I'm just like, they keep lying about this.
And Trump keeps saying we got to stop the violence.
And when they don't do it, they blame him for it.
And I'm like, the president doesn't have the right to intervene in the states and localities.
That's local law enforcement.
And Trump keeps saying, please, I've got law enforcement, you can use them, and they say, no, more people die.
Please, National Guard, no, more people die.
Finally now, they're starting to say yes.
And so that pissed me off.
So now I'm like, you know what, man?
I'm gonna vote for Trump.
I think he wants to withdraw our troops from Afghanistan.
He wants to do term limits.
He wants to end the riots.
He wants to prosecute these extremists.
Fine, whatever, I'm done with these.
ryan long
I heard he was gonna remove the women's vote, which is a nice...
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Straight up.
Yeah.
Number one agenda repeal the 19th.
ryan long
Yeah, there is a third party.
And I don't know if you know this, Tim, but I've also decided I was going to run for president as the first president exclusively for the boys.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
ryan long
Yeah.
I don't know if you guys heard this.
Men will pay no taxes and that will girls will pay double the taxes.
lydia smith
Yeah, because girls have cooties.
ryan long
No girlfriends are allowed to take their boyfriends on Saturdays.
So that's my platform.
I love it.
I'm going to need you to speak to some of your friends at Google and high up places because as a Canadian they have banned me from running.
So we're working on that detail.
tim pool
There was an op-ed in the Washington Post saying that we should remove the natural born citizen requirement.
No, I'm like, get out of here, get out of here.
ryan long
I do not get out of here.
unidentified
So get back in here.
tim pool
I do think it's fun.
If Biden wins, I'm going to laugh.
You know why?
Because I'm not the kind of person who's going to sulk and cry.
I'm going to laugh and be like, this is a crazy Yeah, dude, you're also like a cultural commentator.
ryan long
I think that your personal viewpoint is like a percentage of what you do, but I don't think that influences you entirely.
tim pool
Well, you know, I think everything I say about everything is exactly what I believe.
It's just raw consciousness.
ryan long
Yeah, but if you're talking about the facts of something, I don't know if you're... Will, you tell me, like when you're talking about something, do you consider that you're like, this is what I think?
Or do you sometimes be like, no, I'm telling you what happened?
tim pool
Well, yeah.
So a lot of the articles I do, I'm like, here's the story, here's what I think.
ryan long
And then here's what I think.
tim pool
But everything I think is literally what I think.
And I don't want Biden to win.
I think he's... I don't think he's all with it.
That's worrying to me.
ryan long
No, I mean, understatement of the year.
For sure, for sure.
Come on, man!
tim pool
He's like Cosmic Joe.
He's in outer space at the time.
ryan long
Yeah, both these guys are like a thousand years old, but Trump's way more with it.
tim pool
For sure, for sure.
And as far as I'm concerned, he's the one who's been consistent on... Look, we had a great first three years with the economy, and so I give him credit for that.
He's improved a bit.
But anyway, the point I was trying to bring up is not to be like, yay Trump, just to be like...
I'm not gonna, if Trump wins, I'm gonna be like, wow.
Because the thing that scares me the most is that all this wokeness stuff that we've been making fun of and laughing about, it's infecting these government agencies.
ryan long
It's already happened, yeah.
tim pool
You know the CDC?
10% of their staff demanded a nationwide health crisis.
They want racism to be declared a nationwide health crisis.
Yeah, I know. 10%.
People don't realize, man, you get 10% of a staff, and I was reading a study that said 10% is all you need for an ideology to dominate a culture.
So if the CDC actually starts enforcing this insanity, it's like, you've got some Democratic politicians calling on Joe Biden to condemn the people defending property, not the extremists who are burning it down.
ryan long
Right.
tim pool
That scares me.
And I think we're headed towards, like, you know, dark times.
But I'll tell you what, I'm leaving where I'm at, and all you can do is, like, I think a lot of times all you can do is laugh.
Yeah, I mean, that's pretty good.
So if Biden won, I'd laugh.
ryan long
And it's not because— That's the purpose of laughter, like, in the first place, from a legitimate, you know, evolutionary level.
It's like, when things get too bad, it's like, you can release pressure, and that's what it is, right?
Right, right, right, right.
tim pool
So either way, no matter who wins, I'm going to go out to the middle of nowhere, I'm going to get some goats and some chickens and just like kick back and grow some tomatoes or whatever.
ryan long
Wait for that call to go to the vice, one last job.
One last job, Tim.
tim pool
Open the big briefcase with one little tiny one.
ryan long
No, but you are right.
Like the amount of times people kind of say, you know, I'm making all these videos about this stuff and this, the people that are kind of wrapped up in this go, oh, as if it's like that.
And then the rest of the world messaged me like, it's exactly like that.
tim pool
Yeah.
ryan long
You know, I've been working at these companies.
It's insane how pervasive it is.
It's getting worse.
tim pool
So unless we straight up say, no.
Hard no.
ryan long
Yeah, and everyone kind of has, but it's, you know, it's, again, it's, it's hard to fight if you're a normal person, because it's one thing where you say, oh, you know, this guy disagrees with me.
It's another thing where they go, this guy is racist.
And a normal person goes, what?
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm not.
And they go, yeah, he's transphobic.
And you're like, like, they don't, you know, if you're just some guy working at some job, it's hard to deal with this stuff.
tim pool
If Trump wins every state, I think it'll be the end of the woke insurrection, whatever.
Really?
ryan long
It could go the other way though, right?
Because a lot of this is a temper tantrum, right?
That's why I was saying one of the things I was going to do a video about being the first president that runs exclusively on 20-year-old girl opinions, the lifeblood of the media.
tim pool
Seriously.
ryan long
A lot of these candidates have 10% 20-year-old girl opinions.
I have all 21-year-old girl opinions.
But it is kind of that, right?
So, I don't know.
It's a temper tantrum.
tim pool
You've got a small group, but it's growing.
And they are dominating our cultural institutions, our big media brands, our advertisers, our news outlets.
But they don't make up anywhere near the majority.
They probably just barely cracked the double digits.
ryan long
They make up probably the majority of the institutions, you know, whether that be Hollywood.
tim pool
No, no, I don't think so.
ryan long
You don't think in the universities?
tim pool
I think it's a strong enough percentage and they're terroristic.
And so they get what they want whenever they want.
ryan long
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
So that's why there are professors who get fired.
Because some people will stand up and say no and they'll get kicked out.
ryan long
Based professors.
tim pool
Well, Brett Weinstein, you know his story with Evergreen.
Yeah, of course.
ryan long
I did an interview with James Lindsay about it.
tim pool
Yeah, so you know Brett's he's he's a progressive guy, but he's not insane like these people are so I think it is funny How guys like that kind of got thrown into like the bad boy thing?
ryan long
Yeah, but he's still wearing like khaki shorts, right?
tim pool
You know he's kind of showing up like the bad boy University professor, and he's got like the polo shirt in the cat Not not not sandals and socks not considered to be like a celebrity hip guy, but you know he's alright, right and But imagine this.
Netflix, right?
They put up their Black Lives Matter message.
What do you think happens when everyone looks at the election results and it's just like, Trump, 50 states, sweet.
Then these companies are going to be like, we're marketing to the wrong people.
ryan long
Do you think that's possible?
tim pool
Yeah.
ryan long
Right now they're saying he's going to lose, but the polls are always going wrong.
tim pool
No, right now Trump's winning.
ryan long
Did it just switch?
tim pool
So, several polls have come out recently.
Trump's ahead in Wisconsin, and he's trailing Biden in 15 battleground states, according to CNN, by one point, with a four-point margin of error.
ryan long
So, actually, I think I might... It's so hard to get information right now.
You turn on one thing, and it's like... Yeah, people are scared, dude.
tim pool
We got this tweet.
This is from Walker Bragman.
Who's this guy?
He's a journalist for, I don't know, I don't know, a podcast.
But check this out.
He says, August 24th, 2016.
In Wisconsin, Clinton's up 11.5.
Pennsylvania, 9.2.
North Carolina, 1.7.
Florida, 3.6.
Michigan, 8.
Ohio, 4.8.
Joe Biden's margins today are lower than Clinton's.
ryan long
Why did you think this changed?
Like, why did, why did Trump go back up?
tim pool
Uh, Joe Biden's been hiding in the basement.
And I'm not kidding, he's literally in his home basement.
He's hiding, and the riots have been getting worse.
We just had two guys killed yesterday, and Joe Biden was hiding in his basement.
Donald Trump was tweeting up a storm.
So you can complain about Trump, you know, in his obnoxious tweets, but he's there.
Joe Biden came out with a statement today that was bland and nonsensical.
We must get justice for this man and, you know, violence doesn't solve anything.
ryan long
Yeah, yeah.
John Biden comes out with a statement.
He's like, I'd like to make a statement.
We here at the House are out of peanut butter, if anyone... Please help us.
tim pool
Look fat.
unidentified
We've got only about two tablespoons left.
tim pool
And my pants are wet.
I don't know why.
Where's Jill?
lydia smith
Poor Joe.
ryan long
Poor Joe.
So so this I have run out of denture cream.
If anyone would be as so kind as to bring me some more.
I have a Zoom interview with Charlamagne.
tim pool
Trump.
Yeah.
Trump is Trump's old, but like he doesn't come off like Biden does.
ryan long
I don't know.
I wish I hope when I'm like Trump's age, I'm that chipper.
tim pool
Yeah, dude.
I guess.
What's Trump?
Seventy four.
ryan long
He's up.
tim pool
He's spry.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, I mean, Joe Biden is like, oh, So anyway, there's a lot of reasons why Trump's been improving in the polls.
There's two things.
Not only is the race tightening, this is probably because Biden is, in my opinion, not actually running.
I mean, he's literally running, but he's not campaigning, he's not doing anything.
I mean, they're buying ads, but come on.
He's not making appearances, he's not rallying, he's not going out.
And politics is a ground game.
You gotta go out there, you gotta meet people, you gotta shake babies and kiss hands, if you know what I mean.
unidentified
I'm kidding, the other way around.
ryan long
He's doing the like, I hope Trump just screws up so bad that they're like, all right, enough of this.
tim pool
I don't.
I think they're completely inept.
I think the challenge right now for the Democrats is that you got riots where people are dying.
32 people.
ryan long
And the guy just got shot.
We were just talking about.
tim pool
Yeah.
Well, two guys.
And so you've got the far left that.
endorses this stuff.
They love it.
Yeah, they're stoked.
When the looting happened in Chicago, Black Lives Matter came out and said, good.
What they did was reparations.
I'm glad.
Good for them.
So what's Joe Biden supposed to say?
The riots are bad.
Then he's going to lose half of the left.
He's going to lose all these young, woke far leftists.
If he comes out and says the riots are good, then he's going to lose everybody to Trump.
So he's just like, I don't know what to do.
So he just hides in the basement.
ryan long
I guess the idea is, I mean, I kind of argued this a little bit different than what you're saying is that, because I felt a lot of people on the internet are kind of saying, you know, uh, and I, and I do see it that Kamala was a bad choice, but I have had some people in normal life that are kind of your middle of the road swing voters and they see Kamala as like, Oh, someone sensible.
tim pool
So I think there are some people that are kind of, I was, I was talking to some family members who said that, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
In the Chicago suburbs, they're looking at Kamala as like, Oh, thank heavens.
The Democrats have brought in someone who can stop the riots.
ryan long
100%.
Some people see it as like, okay, she's not a crazy radical.
tim pool
I'm not going to vote for her.
I'm here to vote for a president, not for an old feeble man who's going to hire someone to do the job for him.
Look, I don't like Kamala Harris.
I think she's awful.
I think she's an authoritarian.
And a lot of people like that.
She's going to do something.
And they don't like Trump.
So I think right now, it's close.
It's a close race with Trump, according to these polls.
I think Trump's in the lead based off of the Beltway bubble, which is these journalists who only follow each other.
And I think the polls are skewed because they don't know how to pull Trump's base.
And that was true in 2016 and they admit it's true today.
They don't know what to do.
ryan long
No, you can't trust these polls as far as you can throw them.
tim pool
But when the polls are coming out now saying Trump's within the margin of error, then it's probably he's several points up.
And I just can't believe that with the riots going on for three months... Have you heard any of these C-SPAN phone calls?
These people call in and this lady's like, We've had riots in my town.
I'm in Minnesota, in Minneapolis, and the Democrats didn't say anything about it.
What about us?
She's like, within two days of the Republican convention, I feel like there's hope again to, like, deal with this.
And the guy on C-SPAN asked her, like, are you scared of the riots?
And she's like, yes!
ryan long
Yeah, no, some people are.
I think most people are.
I mean, lots of people have said this, that Trump's just going to be like, yeah, I'm just going to get things back to normal so no one's smashing your windows.
And everyone's like, yeah, all in, dude.
That's enough.
But it is true what you're saying.
You know how we're saying that if Trump loses all these people, you're like, what did he even talk about?
It's the same kind of thing as if the left just said, yeah, remember, we got a little out of hand.
We're not going to do this identity politics stuff anymore.
We're not going to tell everyone that they're racist.
Everyone be like, all right, you're back in and then the right would be like, because there's a lot of right there's just like, yo, this stuff's whack.
So but all it takes is they wouldn't be that hard for them to do that, but they won't.
Right.
So it's just too ingrained.
They're too crazy.
People are too sick of that stuff.
tim pool
Gallup poll shows that the dominant wing of the Democratic Party is the strong liberal or whatever.
So the moderate and conservative Democrats of the past 10, 20, 30 years, they're gone.
They probably joined the Republican Party because we see that data too.
And they're not going to give it up because these young people who are starting to take over, they're in the cult.
ryan long
Dude, I see so many young people that are like 20, that they don't even care about politics.
They're just like, yo, I'm a Trump guy.
That's hilarious.
The same way that, you know, if your parents or like your millennial parents are like, Trump's the devil.
If you like Trump, you're the worst.
And you're like, yo, give me a mega hat.
My mom's gonna be so pissed.
tim pool
Well, there's the inverse to that.
The MAGA parents and the kids being like, F you, Trump sucks.
And then they go on, post their TikToks and stuff.
ryan long
For sure.
But I think it's more the other way around because the, the pervasive, like it, it's, it's different because it's everyone's, it's your parents are also saying the same thing that everyone's saying.
tim pool
Yeah.
ryan long
You know, it's more like before, if you had liberal parents, it's like, I don't think you would have done this.
Right.
tim pool
Exactly.
ryan long
You know, it used to work the other way.
Like you had the religious parents and you're like, I'm actually going to be a prostitute.
tim pool
Now you've got like this 16 year old kid whose mom is like super anti-Trump.
ryan long
Yeah, she's religious about Trump.
tim pool
And he walks in with the hat and she's like, what are you doing, Billy?
And he goes, shut up, mom.
unidentified
Trump 2020.
ryan long
And she's like, I'm listening to the boss.
Can you imagine though if you had a mom like and you came in and you go just so you know There's no such thing as gender and you're like mom.
I'm a boy and you're like, no I'm a boy.
tim pool
No, you're not.
ryan long
I do not have a son You might be gay Stop being a bigot Open your heart Mom, stop.
tim pool
This is my girlfriend.
ryan long
You got to bring home your, you know, to that.
Your mom comes home and she's like, uh, this is my mom.
And she's like, mom.
And you're like, this, this is my parent.
She doesn't identify as a mom or dad.
tim pool
Parental figure number one.
unidentified
Yeah.
ryan long
You'd be so afraid to ever bring your, like you would rebel against that so hard.
tim pool
Embarrassing you.
unidentified
Yeah.
ryan long
I would be going to school with an American flag on my back if I was that guy.
tim pool
You're Canadian.
ryan long
Even in Canada.
I'd be full in.
I'd be Macho Man Randy Savage with a flag on my back.
tim pool
Let's read Super Chats!
unidentified
Can I grab a water before we do it?
ryan long
Or any drink whatsoever.
tim pool
Go grab it.
lydia smith
Can I grab it for you?
ryan long
Yes, that'd be awesome.
lydia smith
Let me grab it for you.
tim pool
All right, while that water's... Okay, perfect.
ryan long
Actually, yeah, let's wait till the water comes.
tim pool
We're going to sit in silence for about two minutes.
ryan long
Let's get this H2O up.
tim pool
OMGtrey says, boys, boys, boys, boys, Ryan, does everyone in a ska band get a Walt Jabsko tattoo?
ryan long
What's a Walt Jabsko tattoo?
tim pool
I have no idea.
ryan long
No, this is a selector.
tim pool
I think this is... Is that because you were in a ska band?
ryan long
Yeah, but that's a fast-forward selector.
You know, the specials and all that stuff.
tim pool
No, I don't know what it is.
ryan long
No, it's, uh, Selector was like a, it's like a label and like a movement of, uh, Scott.
So this is like the two-tone guy.
tim pool
Oh, there you go.
ryan long
Skanking, if you know what that is.
tim pool
Yes, skanking.
ryan long
It's what, uh, how you dance and also what girls all do.
lydia smith
Oh, I see how it is.
tim pool
Kim and Lids, keep up the good work.
Spin that UFO.
Much love from Delaware, right across the bridge.
Keep it up.
Appreciate it.
All right, let's see what else we got.
MD Monroe says, love the work you are all doing.
The race baiting by the media has hurt the fabric of the country.
How do we hold the media accountable?
Should we?
I'm torn due to freedom of the press, but they've turned into propaganda machines versus news.
I think they're going to fade out.
I think they're going to fizzle out.
ryan long
I think they're going to go, because I think they're trying to master race baiting.
Drop the race.
unidentified
Wait, what?
lydia smith
Oh, I see how it is.
unidentified
Yeah.
All right.
lydia smith
All right.
tim pool
Right.
So, so social media is meritocracy.
Your videos were good.
ryan long
It's great.
It's fun that it exists, right?
You get to do your thing and people find it and you can actually build an audience.
It really is changing the game.
The way that I see it is that it's shaking down.
You already see it with people like you, people that are doing paywalls.
I bet you it's only a matter of time before you're like, I'll have four people on my different channels.
Eventually, I was thinking about this, I bet you People will start these movements and you see it in podcasting, these little networks, and eventually Amazon and these streaming services will kind of be like, you know what?
We'll get the Andrew Schultz channel and we'll have his five things on there.
And I think it's going to go that way.
tim pool
Here's the problem with Netflix or any other network.
ryan long
You'll be able to buy the Tim Poole channel.
tim pool
If any network comes to me and they're like, yo, we want the exclusive rights to your show.
I'd be like, I mean, look, you know, Rogan did it with Spotify.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
But I just be like, why?
I'm good.
ryan long
Well, I think in that case, obviously, the Y is 200 milli.
tim pool
Oh, is that what it was?
Was it reported?
ryan long
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
ryan long
This is pretty public.
No, Joe messaged me personally and just told me that.
tim pool
Oh, well, there you go.
We got an inside source.
ryan long
No, that was pretty public information.
tim pool
Yeah, I guess if a network came to me, look, man.
ryan long
That changed your mind, eh?
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
That's the thing.
ryan long
If they get into the game late, they gotta drop off a bag of cash.
tim pool
I was gonna say the inverse.
I was gonna say, I guess if these networks came to me and they offered me that much money, I'd be like, What's my freedom worth?
I can do whatever I want.
ryan long
That's it.
That's the price.
tim pool
I don't know, man.
Look, people don't realize this.
ryan long
I think he negotiated a deal where he's free still.
tim pool
I jokingly say I'm a socialist, but I'm not... What would I do with $200 million?
Give it away?
No, I know.
I know people who are really wealthy, and I'm like, what do you do?
What do you do with all that money?
ryan long
I'm the exact same way, dude.
I've had times in my life where I...
Especially working in entertainment, there's always big pockets where you make a lot of money in one little chunk.
And I don't even go out for a nicer dinner that day.
I make zero changes, I don't wear different clothes, I don't buy a new car.
I'm just not that person.
tim pool
Kraft macaroni and cheese, nothing in it, not even salt.
ryan long
Yeah, not even salt.
Wieners, Canadian style.
Dude, seriously, it's like having a good day, make a bunch of money, and then I, okay, I look at it.
tim pool
Just put it in the bank.
ryan long
Yeah, go to the comedy club and tell jokes again.
I don't know, I don't care.
tim pool
You know what I would do?
Like, heaven forbid these uptight, stodgy moralists ever saw me get $200 million.
Because I would, like, build a massive, like... Beanie rack.
ryan long
Yes!
tim pool
And I'd just have all different colors.
No, no.
How do you describe it?
It would be kind of like Disneyland, but for just, like...
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Weird shenanigans.
We have, like, our own space, you know?
I get, like, a bunch of big warehouses.
I have people just do whatever they want.
Some people would be making, like, laser-induced plasma channels.
ryan long
Basically the warehouse from Tony Hawk Pro Skater.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
People make music.
I mean, that's kind of what I'm doing.
ryan long
You're already doing that, exactly.
You don't need 200 million bucks for that.
tim pool
You know what the challenge is with having all this money is that you can't... There is a limit to where it's like, what do you really want to do?
Because...
I like to imagine that you make a bunch of money and you're like, now I can help people do better.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But you can't.
Giving money to somebody doesn't help them do better.
ryan long
Giving money to someone that's doing, someone like you would?
tim pool
No.
There's, there's like, I really don't believe there's any amount of money someone could give me that would improve the work I do.
ryan long
Well, I'll tell you a perfect example.
Like there's, you know, right now where I'm at, there's a lot of people and I kind of have thought that too.
A lot of people, I was talking about this, but a lot of people were like, Oh, I want to like invest in you.
And you're like, invest in what?
Like my SpongeBob SquarePants costume.
Like what are you investing in?
Right.
But then, you know, there was some guys that actually came to me and they're like, let's make a movie.
And it's like kind of serious and they're put together this budget.
And so now, you know, I might make this movie.
tim pool
Right.
ryan long
Things like that.
Obviously most people, I get what you're saying, most people you'll give them money and they'll blow it and whatever, but you pick the right person and you're like, here's money and funding to make a movie outside of the system.
So you can.
Pick the right guy.
That's the Silicon Valley startup model.
tim pool
I guess one way to put it is it's not easy.
You try to invest in people and I think the challenge I find is...
I've worked with a lot of people, and I'll be like, okay, so I can help you do these things, but if they don't fight for it and earn it themselves, you know, so I've met a lot of people who are like, I really want to do X, and then I'll be like, great, let's go, and then they just go, oh, I guess I didn't want to do it.
ryan long
Well, why don't you do XXX, and here's the money.
unidentified
I got a black leather couch right over there in the room.
tim pool
We are so far from family-friendly for this episode.
unidentified
Really?
ryan long
We never swore, though.
tim pool
No, but you talked about dudes on mountaintops putting on wigs.
ryan long
What is wrong with dudes on mountaintops?
lydia smith
Nothing wrong with that.
ryan long
So anyway, the point is... I know what you're saying, yeah.
tim pool
Unless you like want to build a town or something.
ryan long
You know what I would say the answer to that is?
Is you need to find people that have failed at it themselves a few times and then had success at it a few times.
tim pool
Exactly.
ryan long
So it's like you have both failed and succeeded and then replicated the success.
That's who you want to invest in.
tim pool
I will absolutely clarify.
What I mean to say is...
Obviously, if somebody's like, you know, there's a comedian who just got evicted and now they can't find any work and they've got no cash, money clearly helps them succeed.
ryan long
It doesn't help them succeed, it just helps them, you know.
tim pool
It stabilizes them.
What I mean to say is that if you had all this money to invest in a project, it's really, really difficult to find people where you can give them money and it's going to make the project happen.
Because most people I've met, and this is even true for me when I was younger, like, you put me in this position, you put anyone in this position, they have no experience in how to make it happen, it's not going to happen.
And so this is why investors, it's really funny, they say, investors typically invest in people who don't need it.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
And that's why it's really, really difficult.
And that's why it ends up with someone like Joe Rogan, who doesn't need the money, being like, sure, why not?
ryan long
Yeah, of course.
tim pool
So it's like, I guess.
ryan long
You want to invest in people that would have been successful with or without you, and you just make them the best solver to be involved in it.
tim pool
Yeah.
Matt Cabral says, Love all your stuff, Ryan.
Tim and Lydia, I'm from Massachusetts and I have never seen more Trump gear flags and signs.
There was even a Trump gear store opened.
I see many people coming in and out.
I'm calling a landslide in Massachusetts for Trump.
ryan long
Yeah, when I was traveling through the, I don't know, I guess it would, not the South, but I went to Nashville and we kept stopping at places and there'd be like a place that just sold like briskets and then it was a one little brisket thing and then racks and racks of Trump gear.
I know how you have that, like the Biden life size, life size Trump posters everywhere.
tim pool
Yeah, they just, it was just We got a life-size Trump.
ryan long
Yeah, and it would just be like with lights.
So yeah, I've seen that too.
lydia smith
That's amazing.
ryan long
Just the amount of Trump stuff everywhere decked out.
lydia smith
That's awesome.
ryan long
It's so fun.
lydia smith
I love it.
tim pool
The Civic Nationalist says, Tim, porn stars want your contact information.
ryan long
That's the video, yeah.
tim pool
You should advocate civic nationalism.
It's how the West was before all this BS.
Freedom over equality.
unidentified
Too big of words for me, nerd.
tim pool
We're gonna read more superchats, but you should probably shout out your socials, your channel stuff.
ryan long
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If you don't mind, if you'd be so kind and much obliged to go subscribe to my channel, youtube.com slash ryanlongcomedy.
I release a video every single Monday.
All of my channels are at ryanlongcomedy on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, all of those.
And my podcast, The Boys Cast with Ryan Long, comes out every Friday.
And more importantly, the most potentially most importantly, which is very important because Tim, I didn't tell you this, but I missed my train on the way here so then I Ubered and I took a $500 Uber.
But your fans are gonna make up to me by subscribing to patreon.com slash the boys cast.
lydia smith
I see how this works.
ryan long
Patreon.com slash the boys cast.
No, it was just, it was getting stressful so I was just like, you know what, I'm just gonna call it.
tim pool
Was it really that expensive?
ryan long
I think it was like $400.
Oh my gosh!
Listen, I invested in Smith & Wesson yesterday on my buddy's advice, and I put some cash in there, and they're like, whoo, take a peek at that puppy.
So, covered six Ubers.
tim pool
There you go.
ryan long
No, actually, it covered zero Ubers.
I invested in my Patreon.
lydia smith
Appreciate that.
tim pool
Josh Wishart said, yes, Ryan is awesome.
ryan long
Thank you very much, Josh.
tim pool
Not a question, but...
Julio Vilalta says, hey from Chicago, love the show and happy you hit 1 million subs.
Chicago's already prepping for a rough weekend with streets barricaded in Gold Coast.
Keep up the great work.
ryan long
Yes, congrats on 1 million subs, too, by the way.
tim pool
Oh, thank you.
Yeah, yeah.
And congrats, Chicago, for all the civil unrest, destruction, and death.
lydia smith
Doing very well over there.
tim pool
How do you pronounce this?
Callan.
Callan says, Canceling NBA sounds like a win-win-win.
Players sacrifice pay and have time to protest.
Owners renegotiate salary for lower viewership.
NBA fans now watch RNC and see Trump.
Isn't that bad?
There you go.
Alright, let's see.
Let's see.
Eric A. says, thanks for keeping us informed and having the best guests.
JRE better look out.
Did you see that Breonna Taylor is turning out to be another false narrative?
It was not no knock raid.
Brandon Tatum has on his news site, there's a lot more.
I don't know about the raid, but I know that apparently some document came out that claimed
she had connections to one of the drug dealers they were looking for or something.
So I don't know if you know anything about that, but.
ryan long
I mean, uh, it feels like I'm constantly in a loop of people being like, look at this.
The cops are bad.
And they're like, check out the real video.
The cops are good.
And you're like, I don't know.
Sometimes it's one, sometimes it's the other, probably.
So many videos.
tim pool
We got, we got Brianna Taylor, George Floyd and Jacob Blake.
These stories coming out all in the past couple of days.
That's like, Hey, wait a minute.
That's not what they said.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
So it's not necessarily that cops are good, but that, oh, that was kind of just a messed up situation where everyone screwed up.
ryan long
And it's like, how do we... Yeah, a lot of times it is, you know, it's like all of the things and the problem is people want to put it all in one and the other like it isn't.
They like to think of gender as a spectrum, but they don't like to think of people screwing up as a spectrum.
lydia smith
Exactly, I noticed that too.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
Josephine Whitaker says, not my real name.
Love the Boys cast and Tim cast.
Boys, boys, boys.
Boys, boys, boys, boys, boys, boys.
unidentified
Boom.
tim pool
Nightingale Mori says, question.
I heard Tim ranting about being forced off the fence by Dems and voting for Trump.
Also, he doesn't wear the MAGA beanie.
Where could I re-find it?
And if Tim allows me to work on a little animation?
Uh, yeah, I was forced off the fence because I don't, I don't want to be in anybody's tribe.
I don't want to, I don't want to like walk over to a group and be like, I'm with you.
I would be like, nah, you all get away from me and leave me alone.
I do my thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm going to be over here with my hippie farm.
ryan long
You know, for me, it's like people, you know, and it is true.
People always want to say, are you on this side or that side?
It's like, first of all, I identify as a comedian, so that's the most important thing to me, but I'm always going to be more against the side that's telling me what to do.
Right.
So people always talk left and right, but it's more authoritarianism versus freedom.
Right.
Right.
So if I moved here and if the right was like, listen, these are the topics you can't talk about.
And they were at one point, but right now, you know, it's probably more the other side being like, this is what you can say.
Here's the off-limit topics.
I say way worse stuff about the church.
And if this was 10 years ago, that would not be on TV right now.
They don't see, no one cares and they're not getting mad about it.
tim pool
So I think, I think Ben Shapiro has the biggest conservative podcast and they make fun of him all the time and he rolls with it and laughs.
ryan long
Yeah, dude, I actually made a video that made fun of him.
tim pool
Did he respond to it or anything?
ryan long
Yeah, so it wasn't that crazy.
I was doing the Never Trumper vs. Always Trumper kind of thing, right?
And what I said was, because he always tried to find like a good thing to make fun of them with, because I didn't want to be like, Ben Shapiro's a... What I said was, watching cool guys like Ben Shapiro, and he lost his virginity at 28!
I kind of like just took a dig at like some of these bad boy guys.
And again, whatever, you know, it's not like the worst.
I don't think any of this stuff was that bad if it's making fun of anyone.
But then he retweeted it and he was like, actually, it was 24.
I was like, that's pretty funny.
You know, that's a pretty right.
tim pool
You know, there was a he rolls with it.
Yeah.
ryan long
But it's only on the right.
There was a maybe it wasn't her.
It was the Oh, no, this was another right wing people.
What's the like?
Candace Owens.
Dave Chappelle kind of made fun of her.
tim pool
She said something like, I'm honored to be made fun of by one of the greatest comedians ever.
And then she was like, I'd love to talk to you at some point.
ryan long
It's such the move, dude.
If someone makes fun of you, especially a comic, you look like such a loser if you go, Look, you're an idiot.
I'm actually cool.
tim pool
These memes about me are amazing.
I tweeted something, and then someone made a meme where it was like me in a hot air balloon, but my head was the balloon, and the basket was hanging from my own head, and I was in it.
I saved it.
I was like, dude, that's amazing.
And there's another one where it's me and my brain goes up and it's really small with a little beanie on it and I'm drooling.
It's hilarious.
Dude, I don't care, man.
I'm having a good time.
I don't get bothered by these things.
They make me laugh.
And it's funny because...
Uh, people on the right will, more of a playful jab post memes, and they're funny, and people on the left think they're trying to get me, and I'm like, dude, that was hilarious!
ryan long
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
I love the blimp head brain thing, it's good, dude.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
Cause, you know, I gotta say, I'm impressed, cause the left usually doesn't have good memes.
But they put a lot of effort into making memes about me.
They're funny.
The funny thing about the one with the little brain is that I'm wearing this old baseball tee that I wore like two years ago that I haven't worn for two years because now my thing is like the shirt with the shirt over it.
And so I'm like, did you make this last month about a video I did two years ago?
lydia smith
They really put in the work.
ryan long
Wow.
tim pool
Like they're watching my stuff.
ryan long
They went through the archives to find the perfect shirt to sketch you in to make fun of you.
tim pool
One of these woke researchers, I kid you not, this is the craziest thing I've ever heard.
So there's this woman and she did this thing where she smeared a bunch of peanut butter
on... we're not going to go there.
She smeared a bunch of people, peanut butter, she smeared a bunch of people and then it
was called the Alternative Influence Network and she claimed that comedians were connected
from one link to white nationalists and it was the most ridiculous conspiracy nonsense.
She does a follow-up to it, and she says that she watched all of my videos, and I was like, do you know how much content that is?
Like, 2,000 videos that are between 10 and 30 minutes long, and I was like, that means she was sitting in her apartment for, like, four hours a day to catch up, because based on the amount of time she spent, From the time she started the project to the time she finished, I was like, dude, I tweeted it and I was like, wow.
lydia smith
That's an honor.
tim pool
I was like, I'm actually really impressed because that means you were watching probably like five hours of my content every day to catch up.
Because I do, I was doing at the time two hours per day.
ryan long
Yeah, you do a lot.
tim pool
Two hours per day.
Now with this show, it's four.
And I'm like, so if you're going to watch all of my content, That means you had to be watching at least two hours a day, double time, to try and catch up to the content I was making today.
unidentified
Yeah!
tim pool
That's how obs- like, I was like, you know, that's dedication.
ryan long
That's full-time job, yeah.
tim pool
And then she wrote like this article, and it wasn't even- it wasn't a hit piece or anything, it was like, Tim Poole's a moderate who says these things, and I'm like, you watched.
ryan long
That's a lot of work for that bad boy house.
tim pool
Thousands of my videos.
unidentified
Man.
tim pool
Dedicated to your art, man.
ryan long
There's nothing worse than the scumbags that just go through your podcast to get mad.
And they find nothing.
Could you imagine?
tim pool
But I guess the goal was like, she thought she was going to find something, maybe?
And then it turns out Tim's a milquetoast fence-sitter who just talks about news and has tepid opinions.
ryan long
I guess that's not the worst.
Dude, I've been having that conversation with all these, like, you know, industry people when they're... A lot of the first things I'm asking people is, like, you know, what would you do if, like, how would you handle, like, if someone, you know, if I got in this scandal and some people canceled me and blah, blah, and they're like, well, no, I really like your stuff, I'm a fan, but, like, obviously if you said something, like, really offensive, I'm like, yeah, that, that's what I'm talking about.
That's what's gonna happen.
At the very least, they're gonna say that.
tim pool
Not just that, but how long until the videos you've made are offensive?
I mean, like, so obviously there are fans of you left now.
ryan long
Oh, I seriously am.
tim pool
So, like, dude, if, you know, you get some dude who ten years ago... Sarah Silverman.
ryan long
Dude, I watched my old TV show that I did six years ago, and some of the jokes I was watching, I go, whoa!
tim pool
If we carry on in this way, where we're going now, I'd be willing to bet in a few years Oh, you're going to the Gulag, brother.
They're going to be like this woke racist thing.
unidentified
How dare you!
ryan long
Do you want to know something really funny that I saw two days ago?
You know the show Criminal Minds?
Yeah.
tim pool
Vaguely, I don't know.
I've never seen it.
ryan long
It's like SVU or whatever.
Basically, it's whatever.
It's a cop show or whatever.
But there was a person that had a split personality.
So basically, it was a man and a woman who were in the same body.
And then the woman was killing people and then took over, so it was the woman.
And then she was like, she's not gonna let the guy out anymore, so it's just the woman.
And then the cops were, so it's basically like a trans woman at this point, played by a man.
And all the cops were like, come on, we know there's a guy in there somewhere.
And I was just like, can you imagine?
Be like, tell me there's not a guy in there drinking a Coors Light and playing beer pong.
unidentified
Let him out!
tim pool
You know what they were saying?
ryan long
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Because they're saying this psychopath took over.
ryan long
And I was just like, man, can you imagine that right now?
That was making me laugh so much, the idea of, you're telling me there isn't a dude inside there just waiting to have an arm wrestle?
tim pool
Let him out!
Let him out!
So here's the point, ultimately, the jokes we've made on this show, at a certain point, if we carry on this track, people are going to be like, look at this podcast he did three years ago.
Oh, it's so offensive.
ryan long
And then on the other side, they go too far.
You know, the truth is with people calling stuff gay or whatever, there was a point where I think most people, everyone, like, people were kind of like, yo, listen, like, we don't like that word if you don't mind it.
Honestly, everyone was kind of like, yeah, yeah, we're kind of done with it anyway.
And then it was like, yeah, you better not say it.
And we go, yeah, I wouldn't say it.
And he's like, yeah, that's right.
Because if you say you're in trouble.
tim pool
You know what's funny?
ryan long
Yeah, and then every person was like, alright, now I have to say it.
lydia smith
Gotta say it now.
ryan long
So, and that's what happened with all this stuff.
It kind of started out where it was like, hey, could you not just, you know, and you
go, yeah, yeah, no problem.
But then the things got so ridiculous that everyone's like, alright, now I'm not following
tim pool
any of it.
You know what's funny?
There's a voice actress who's super anti-Trump and super woke.
ryan long
Yeah, I'm...
tim pool
Except she's done a ton of Family Guy.
ryan long
Hollywood rarity.
tim pool
Comedy Central.
And I'm like, I could put together probably like five hours of extreme racist, transphobic, homophobic content from this voice actress.
ryan long
Right.
tim pool
A super compilation.
And like, that's why it's like, don't pretend that all of a sudden you're turning a new leaf when it was only a couple years ago you were like making all of this racist content.
ryan long
You were doing what was in vogue then and you're doing what's in vogue now.
unidentified
Exactly.
ryan long
These people have like no spines.
They're followers.
lydia smith
Exactly.
ryan long
And people can tell the difference.
tim pool
Our happy place says we just need honest people who want to find real solutions to step forward and say enough.
We need reform.
We need to be objective.
We need to support our police and expect accountability.
ryan long
I do want to be clear about the fact that I do not care about finding real solutions.
I care about making a good comedy album.
tim pool
And solutions are bad.
If everything was fixed, what were you going to make fun of?
Everything is great!
What's the deal with everything being perfect?
No, you need the chaos and the calamities that people get angry about.
unidentified
What's the deal with this racial unity?
lydia smith
I'd laugh at that.
tim pool
Someone's gonna pull that one.
Oh boy.
Alright, let's see.
Matt Moran says, Hey Tim, owed you a super chat.
Anyway, you rock.
But for Ryan, dude, you are on fire this year.
Great work and good luck.
I thought it couldn't get better.
Then you released diversity and torture.
That was good.
ryan long
Yeah, that was pretty good.
tim pool
Those people didn't know what to say, man.
ryan long
Yeah, the part that was making me laugh the night before to myself was saying that Guantanamo Bay is a boys club.
That was my favorite part.
lydia smith
I love that video.
I was like, yes, I want equality in this field.
ryan long
Yeah, I got a couple other ones of those too coming out.
unidentified
Sweet.
tim pool
All right, let's see what we got.
Let's do a couple more because we're running late.
ryan long
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Let's see.
Private Joker says, Hi Tim.
Have you seen the coverage of the shooting last night in Kenosha?
The media coverage has been heavily against the shooter, but I doubt they're telling the full story.
Any thoughts?
That's my general understanding, but we really do need more footage to come out.
There was a deep analysis on it that's really, wow, incredible, where they isolated individuals and traced them through the video so you can clearly see, by color coordinating, that the dude who shot the guy in the head was being attacked.
And then he fired in self-defense.
ryan long
That's the one you showed me before, right?
tim pool
Yeah, and then they chase him down the street, and so it really does look like, you know, hard self-defense.
lydia smith
So glad we had so many reporters.
ryan long
This is wild.
Tim, someone just donated $50 to my Patreon while I'm on this.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
ryan long
So your fans have started to pick up the Lyft bill.
Very cool.
tim pool
There you go, man.
lydia smith
I'm happy to hear it.
tim pool
Hey Tim, the Aussie government is about to put through a law to give big media corporations an edge by giving them YouTube algorithm data and up to 60 times of their ad revenue they bring in.
9 News Network.
This precedent could go to the US.
Please look at it.
Oh, I didn't hear that.
I will look into it.
So, let's do one more.
unidentified
Let's see, where are we at?
ryan long
Maybe this is like a noob question, who cares?
So, what happens if you don't read the super chat?
tim pool
I can't read all of them, so there's a bunch I haven't read.
ryan long
Oh, okay, so it's like they do the super chat and you try to read as many as you can.
tim pool
I try to read as many as I can, you know, but it's like... But if they're in the chat, it shows up like bigger for everyone else to see.
Right, right, right, right.
ryan long
So there is a benefit still.
tim pool
Yeah, definitely.
So let's see what we got here.
Bruva says, I'm seeing more and more of my co-workers rocking the Trump mask and making heads explode.
LOL.
ryan long
That is a funny move.
Just show up to your normal job with the Trump mask.
Do it.
Funny move.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
Thatchivo says, are you going to start hunting with all those new guns you bought?
Probably not because I work too much.
ryan long
Did you buy a bunch of guns?
tim pool
I bought a bunch of guns.
ryan long
I bought a bunch of Smith & Wesson stock because Danny Polishak told me.
Oh, stock.
tim pool
That's a brilliant idea.
ryan long
He told me.
tim pool
They're sold out of everything.
ryan long
That's what he said.
tim pool
I had a buddy send me a bunch of photos and he's like, dude, all the ammo's gone.
So I'm kind of thinking like, I gotta go to the store and get ammo.
ryan long
So what'd you buy?
tim pool
Uh, I can't.
I'm not going to say publicly, but a bunch.
ryan long
A bunch of guns?
A bunch.
Oh, you've got a compound, dude.
unidentified
I went in and I was like, hmm, let's see, I'll take that one, that one, that one.
Take one of each.
tim pool
One of those.
I looked down, ooh, I'll definitely take that one.
ryan long
You're like one step away from having a cult out here.
tim pool
No way, dude.
ryan long
What was the movie called?
tim pool
You think I want people around me?
They're gonna show up and they're gonna have beanies on.
They're gonna be like, Tim, get out, get away from me.
ryan long
You get to have sex with everyone's wife in the cult.
What's that movie called?
tim pool
I don't know.
ryan long
But it's like a famous American story and they keep making talks about it.
And they were kind of in the middle of nowhere and the cops came and there was like a standoff.
tim pool
I have no idea.
lydia smith
Was it the Bundys?
That wasn't it.
ryan long
No, I don't think it was the Bundys, but super famous.
I feel like people in the chat would even probably be saying it.
I don't know if they're in real time like that.
But anyways, there was this cult in the middle of somewhere and then the police came and they had a standoff for like months and then they burned the place down.
tim pool
Was that Waco?
Yes.
ryan long
We knew it.
Oh, snap.
I knew we'd get it.
We got there together.
lydia smith
Yeah, I'm seeing a lot in the chat.
That's Waco.
Cool, thanks guys.
tim pool
We got our back.
Well, on that note, on a positive note, we'll wind things down.
Yeah, on Waco.
We'll leave it there.
ryan long
Well, let's go back.
tim pool
Everybody's saying Waco.
ryan long
There goes the surfer roots.
Let's just ride the Waco.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So anybody, so anyway, everybody.
So anybody.
Anybody who's listening.
We're wrapping up.
We go a little bit longer every night, apparently.
Do you want to just shout out your socials real quick?
ryan long
Yeah, dude, that was super fun.
Thanks for having me on.
tim pool
Yeah, for sure, man.
You're a funny guy.
ryan long
Thanks, but yeah, it's very cool.
It's just cool seeing, like Andrew Schultz did something like this.
We kind of had a thing going in Toronto, but it's very cool watching people.
You go to Comedy Central, you're like, this is better, dude, what you got going on.
YouTube.com slash Ryan Long Comedy is the best one.
Like, subscribe, please.
I do release a video every Monday.
And The Boys Cast with Ryan Long, the first podcast exclusively for The Boys.
tim pool
There you go.
ryan long
Patreon.com slash The Boys.
tim pool
And of course, pay for my Uber.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Yes.
And of course, you can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, and Parler at TimCast.
Check out my other channels, YouTube.com slash TimCast and slash TimCastNews.
And you can follow at Sour Patch Lids, L-Y-D-S, on Twitter and Parler.
And we will be back Tomorrow at 8 p.m., and thanks for hanging out, everybody.
We'll see you all then.
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