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July 21, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Assassin Executes Epstein Judge's Son, Escapes, Is Found DEAD
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adam crigler
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tim pool
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lydia smith
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unidentified
now Well, we're live
tim pool
We're getting some weird goings on with this show.
And I have to imagine that's for obvious reasons.
adam crigler
I think we're good.
tim pool
Yeah, it looks like we're getting some weird background studio stuff going on.
unidentified
Huh.
tim pool
I'll see if I can fix it.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a crazy, crazy, crazy show for you tonight.
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
tim pool
Oh, I see what happened.
adam crigler
What happened?
tim pool
No, I can't tell what happened.
adam crigler
We're live right now.
I see you.
We're actually, it's public.
You know, this might, this actually happened on my first, uh, AdamCast episode.
tim pool
I see what happened.
I see what happened.
There's no, no, no nefarious goings on.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
No nefarious goings on.
lydia smith
Cool.
adam crigler
I am going to share.
tim pool
YouTube glitch at the worst possible moment.
Ladies and gentlemen, there was a judge.
I don't want to bury this.
I want to make sure everybody who's tuning in right now knows what's up.
There was a judge involved in the Epstein, who was assigned to the Epstein case having to do with Deutsche Bank.
Tracking how, like, it's a lawsuit basically involving these banks tracking Epstein money.
We're not properly doing it.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Someone showed up to the judge's house, dressed like a FedEx delivery guy.
And when the judge's son opened the door, he put the gun to his heart, pulled the trigger, blew the dude's heart out.
Dead.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Fired at the husband, critically injured.
Now here's where it gets crazy, because I talked about this earlier.
They find the guy later.
Self-inflicted gunshot wound, they said.
And all of a sudden, my phone's blowing up.
I'm getting people hitting me up like, dude!
And I'm like, I know!
And we're all like, what?
This is crazy.
Yeah, this is insane.
So we put this video up, and right as I was about to click live, it goes private.
And I was like, no way, dude.
I think we just got shut down.
So I can't actually see the YouTube back end right now.
adam crigler
I'm trying to- So as I was saying, this happened to me.
The very first episode, it closed out, and I was like, oh, F.
And I, like, said it.
Oh no!
And then somebody hit me up on Twitter and said, you're live.
And then I looked over at Ian and I'm like, are we live?
And he had his computer here and he's like, yeah, we're live.
And I was like, oh, well, what's going on?
So when I went back into it through the studio, yeah, what you're doing right now.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude.
I was freaking out.
adam crigler
Because we're late.
tim pool
I was freaking out.
I was like, no way, dude, they shut us down.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Because look, before we started this, we're going to talk about what's going on with the Epstein stuff.
And a little bit as it pertains to finances, because I got to be honest.
You know, Adam's like, they're gonna shut us down, you know?
adam crigler
We literally had the conversation about it right before we decided to do this as the story earlier today, and I was like, I don't know, it feels like, and he's like, no, I did a video.
tim pool
I did a video earlier.
So the way YouTube works now is that you do a video, you choose if you broke the rules.
I kid you not.
It'll be like, did you break any of these rules?
And I'm like, no, I didn't.
And it was manually reviewed and they said, you are good, good to go.
And I'm like, I'm talking about an assassination.
I think I said five times, they put a bullet through his heart.
And I'm like, if YouTube says this is okay, because usually what I expect to happen is total demonetization.
But this time they're like, no, it's okay.
I'm very careful.
I censor a lot of words.
I try to make sure everything's family friendly, so that even if the story is crazy, I don't say certain things.
So I decided, you know, let's do this.
And then sure enough, as we're getting ready to do the show, I clicked go live and it said private.
And we couldn't actually see anything working.
And that's when I thought we were knocked out.
I was like, they got us.
adam crigler
I thought so too, man.
As soon as I saw it, I was like, oh no.
unidentified
Is this it?
tim pool
We're not just going to talk about this.
adam crigler
I just tweeted it out, like a hit tweet, and it went out.
And then you were like, oh, we're banned.
And I was like, uh, I'm going to delete the tweet.
tim pool
I said, they got us.
adam crigler
You said, they got us.
And I was like, oh no, let me get rid of the tweet so people don't think to come to nothing.
tim pool
In the YouTube studio back end, everything looked good.
I clicked go live, and then it went, this video is private.
And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, no, no, no.
So what YouTube does is they force private videos when they want to do a fast ban.
So when I was talking about a certain CIA whistleblower, they did a force private on me.
adam crigler
Oh, they did?
tim pool
On two videos.
And so you go into your settings and it says this video is made private.
You can't do anything about it.
adam crigler
Yeah, wow.
tim pool
Can't do anything.
And then the weirdest thing happened.
One of the videos they removed of mine just was like an image.
So, like, when you go in the YouTube studio, you see a list of all your videos and the metrics, and you highlight it, and when you highlight it, it, like, changes color, and then you can click things and go into it.
But when they did this to me, when YouTube just, like, fast removed a video, you couldn't highlight anything.
It was almost like it was just a background image that wasn't actually there.
And there was no stats, there was no links, it was just a video and it said the name, and you couldn't click it.
Yeah, that was that was during the weird CIA whistleblower phase of the impeachment, you know, all that Ukraine stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna talk about this, but my friends, my friends, we're gonna go over this story.
I'm very anti-conspiracy theory.
So I hope you're all prepared for me to be very skeptical about a lot of stuff.
But we're gonna have fun with it.
But I'm also gonna bring up a story from 2013 about a journalist named Michael Hastings.
Mainstream reporters... Okay, this is a journalist.
Somehow died.
Car accident.
Very, very suspect circumstances.
This guy's, you know... Rest in peace.
I mean this with all due respect to Michael Hastings and his family and everything, but... He was...
According to the story, worried about someone tampering with his car, asked to borrow someone else's car, panicked, and then like a day later, his car was going 70 miles an hour down the road, slammed into a tree, and some apparently experts said it sounded like a car hack.
This guy was doing some like deep investigation, and I'll tell you why journalism is dead in this country, and many parts of the world.
It's because of stories like the one we're about to tell you.
As I said a moment ago, A FedEx delivery driver.
That's who walked up to this house.
And apparently, you know, knocked on the door, rang the doorbell.
20-year-old kid answers it.
You see a FedEx guy out the window.
What do you do?
adam crigler
Answer the door.
tim pool
Bullet to the chest.
Bang.
That's why journalists are gone.
This is a judge, mind you.
That's why I want to talk about Michael Hastings.
So let's just, let's not even mess around.
We got a lot to talk about in this story.
Here's the first story from the Financial Times.
Gunman attacks house of judge overseeing Epstein lawsuit.
FBI identifies anti-feminist lawyer as primary subject in shooting that killed Esther Salas' son.
Now this is another really weird aspect of the story.
The dude apparently was like a men's rights activist.
They say anti-feminist, but he was, you know, he wasn't suing, like, I don't know, it sounds like he was a men's rights lawyer.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
So this is all part, weird part, but let's read.
I'll give you the full context.
They say, The FBI has identified a self-described anti-feminist lawyer as the primary subject in a brutal attack against the home of a federal judge in New Jersey that killed her 20-year-old son and injured her husband.
In a tweet on Monday, the FBI's branch in Newark, New Jersey said that Roy Den Hollander, who is known for pursuing legal claims alleging discrimination against men, was the main target in its investigation into the deadly Sunday shooting at the home of Judge Esther Salas.
The FBI confirmed that Dan Hollander was dead after media reports said he had been found in New York State.
Last week, Judge Salas, who was not hurt in the assault, had been assigned to oversee a lawsuit filed by investors against Deutsche Bank.
They alleged that the bank had made false and misleading statements with regards to its anti-money laundering practices, and had improperly monitored high-risk customers, including the late, disgraced Epstein.
Authorities have not linked the shooting to the Deutsche Bank case.
The FBI has not offered any motive for the attack.
Bill Barr, the U.S.
Attorney General on Monday, said this kind of lawless, evil action carried out against a member of the federal judiciary will not be tolerated.
Judge Salas and her family are in our thoughts at this time as they cope with this senseless act, Phil Murphy, the governor of New Jersey, wrote on Twitter.
According to CNN, the gunman was disguised as a FedEx delivery driver, opened fire as soon as the door of the home was opened.
Daniel Anderle, Ms.
Salas' 20-year-old son, was fatally struck.
Mark Anderle, a criminal defense attorney, was taken to the hospital near their home in North Brunswick, New Jersey.
Judge Salas had dealt with Den Hollander in the past, as he was pursuing a case challenging the male-only military draft in the U.S.
Bob Menendez, the Democratic Senator from New Jersey, said he knew Judge Salas and her husband well, and had been proud to recommend her to Barack Obama for the judicial post, which she took up nine years ago.
My prayers are with Judge Salas and her family, and that those responsible for this horrendous act are swiftly apprehended and brought to justice, Mr. Menendez said.
You know the story of Senator Menendez?
adam crigler
No, I don't.
tim pool
Do you?
lydia smith
I do.
tim pool
I'm going to be very, very vague.
Very vague.
But there were accusations.
It's my general understanding, and based on... I'm being very legally careful here.
Based on my readings of the news and what I remember of them, which could be wrong, it's been a long time and I haven't pulled it up, Senator Menendez was accused of engaging in adult activities with women under the age of 18 in, I think, where was it?
lydia smith
Dominican Republic?
tim pool
You want to look it up so we can make sure we have this?
And apparently one of the arguments from them in their defense was, even if he did it, it wouldn't be illegal in that country.
adam crigler
He said those words?
That was like some kind of... well... That was the actual defense though?
tim pool
There was a defense from a lawyer.
It is my understanding.
And I could be misremembering this.
But that was something that was being passed around and I could absolutely be wrong.
I don't have... I could be wrong.
I don't have that pulled up.
I'm only bringing it up because of the associations in the story.
But hold on.
I'm gonna put everything on pause right now.
Here's a guy who is, they're saying he's an anti-feminist.
I don't know if that's fair.
He's a men's rights lawyer, you know, he's suing for men and, you know, to get this, it's a difference between targeting feminists and supporting men.
I guess the media doesn't make that distinction or whatever.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
It's entirely possible this has nothing to do with Epstein and the only reason this is coming up is because someone noticed she just received this case and are trying to connect it because it's a salacious story.
Let's make that clear.
It's hard to know what to believe and people are going to choose what they want to believe.
I do not like drawing conclusions or making leaps.
What do we know right now?
A guy dressed as a lawyer, supporting men, for seemingly no reason, no relation to the story, I don't know or care, disguised himself, went to a judge's house, killed her son, injured her husband.
That's about it.
Now, the latest update we have, uh, some of the updates, this is from, uh, ABC News.
Breaking.
Suspect in shooting of Judge's family found dead of apparently self-inflicted gunshot wound, multiple law enforcement sources tell ABC News.
The deceased suspect was an attorney who had a case before Judge Salas in 2015.
So I don't know.
What's the likelihood that somebody who had a grudge for five years decided to show up and kill her son?
adam crigler
Four days after she took this case?
tim pool
But that's another issue too, man.
It was four days later, but is that enough time to coerce somebody?
Like, she gets assigned to this and then they call her immediately like, you better do what we want, otherwise tomorrow we're calling you.
And then the next day they did it, and the next day... Well, do you think the...
adam crigler
I'm going to just choose everything wisely here.
tim pool
Yeah, we'll be very careful in our choice of words.
adam crigler
I mean, so you said like, is that enough time for someone to be coerced?
What if that wasn't the idea?
What if they didn't even contact her?
If this is what is happening?
What if that's not what the point is?
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say.
tim pool
It could be anybody who gets involved will suffer.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then everyone's going to say, no way.
No, I'm not touching that.
adam crigler
Oh, you took that case?
Okay.
This is what happens.
tim pool
Not even that.
It was assigned to her, right?
Oh, it was assigned to her.
adam crigler
She didn't take it.
Is that how it works?
I don't know.
tim pool
I don't know how it works.
I'm not a lawyer or a judge, so I'm assuming there's some degree of choice.
I don't know.
But perhaps, you know, they said, hey, here's the case.
And she received it.
She says, OK.
Dude shows up.
Four days later.
I have to imagine anybody now who sees this case is going to be like, nope.
I'm not touching it.
That's why I want to talk about Michael Hastings, too, after this.
Because, you know, I've had a lot of people over the past years tell me that when you enter the political fray and start talking about, you know, politicians, support for, opposition to, you become targeted in varying degrees of severity.
So like, if, you know, what I do, I'm basically like, well, you know, the Democrats kind of suck.
That's not the most egregious thing, but the level of influence, the amount of views I get, is an issue.
So what happens is you get smeared, they try to discredit you.
When you become an actual political operative and are actually doing bigger, high-profile things, the smears are substantially worse.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
When you start doing crazy stuff that actually gets people elected, all of a sudden then you get criminal probes, you get, you know, serious criminal investigations.
There's a couple organizations I'm not going to name that, you know, in recent history.
And then you come to this.
Criminal enforcement and judging overseeing very serious cases.
Now people are gonna want to send a message, man.
You know, it's one thing to be like, hey, Democrats are bad.
It's another thing to be like, I would like to issue a ruling of discovery in this Jeffrey Epstein banking case so we can see everybody who was involved in these financial transactions and have some high-ranking officials from Deutsche Bank sit in that chair and tell me everybody who transferred money and why.
Then all of a sudden the judge overseeing the case has a dead son.
Then the guy is found in upstate New York, apparently, of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
adam crigler
I didn't even hear about that until I came down and you were like, so this is what we're gonna talk about.
I'm like, okay, and then you drop that.
And I was like, what?
You know, you can't write this.
No, I'll tell you what, man.
More perfect for like a conspiracy.
tim pool
Look what the FBI said.
The FBI Newark said the FBI has identified Roy Denhollander as the primary subject in the attack that occurred at the home of the Honorable Esther Sellis.
Denhollander is now deceased.
Individuals who believe they have relevant information should contact us.
They list their phone number.
adam crigler
So the FBI is openly reaching out and investigating this?
tim pool
Deceased.
They didn't say apparent suicide or whatever.
Wow.
But ABC News is saying that, so it could just be... I think the FBI wouldn't get into that much detail, so it's probably a suicide.
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
So, uh...
What are people going to think?
adam crigler
They're going to think exactly that.
There's something that I know I can't say that I want to say right now, but I don't, I just don't, I don't know.
I, this is a very touchy subject.
You know, it's like, I have a feeling nobody out there believes that he did that to himself.
I guess that's the best way to do it.
tim pool
Somebody tweeted, the man who killed the Epstein judge's son didn't kill himself.
adam crigler
Someone else said that, right?
tim pool
Someone tweeted that.
adam crigler
Right.
lydia smith
Just for context.
tim pool
And they were like, is this too soon?
I think it might have been ZeroHedge or something.
Is this too soon?
So here's what I find very, very interesting about this whole thing.
When Epstein got arrested.
Everybody was tweeting.
Okay, so we know what happens next, right?
Yeah.
lydia smith
And we did.
tim pool
We did.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And then it happened and everyone laughed because it was so obvious.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, how about we just check that camera footage to see what happened?
Oh, what's that?
The camera was broken.
lydia smith
So weird.
tim pool
Well, why don't we ask the guards?
Oh, they were sleeping.
adam crigler
Is that what it was?
tim pool
Yeah, I think that's what it was, right?
lydia smith
That was what it was.
Yeah, they took naps.
Yeah, weird, right?
tim pool
They were sleeping.
lydia smith
So strange.
tim pool
So, uh, when whatever Ghislaine, I repronounce her name, whatever, Maxwell gets arrested, then, uh, a lot of people are saying my mic is really low.
You're, I can't do anything about it.
You're, you're normal.
adam crigler
All right.
Seems.
Yeah.
I don't know.
tim pool
Just, just, just pull it sucker a little bit closer to your face right there.
adam crigler
I can't get any, it's, I can't, I can't do it any closer, but, uh, I'll try to, to speak a little, uh, louder into the microphone.
lydia smith
Oh, that's nice.
That's good.
adam crigler
Is that better?
I just made my voice deeper.
Oh, that's... I can hear myself a little clearer, actually.
Okay.
unidentified
Cool.
tim pool
Hopefully that worked.
adam crigler
Sorry to steer us sideways.
lydia smith
No worries.
tim pool
So, I don't know what they're doing with Ghislaine or whatever her name is, right?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
They're saying next year is gonna be her case.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
A year?
tim pool
Yeah, a year.
adam crigler
How is that legal, though?
tim pool
What do you mean?
That's just how they've done it.
adam crigler
No bail?
tim pool
What's her charges?
their their charges all i don't know do you know if you're going to hold up yet
so she's actually being tried by the public corruption
okay and a lot of people immediately pointed out that's weird
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
That's not supposed to be the division that handles this kind of stuff.
lydia smith
Oh, I can't read these on live stream.
tim pool
Is this trafficking?
lydia smith
Yeah, trafficking, basically.
tim pool
So most of us understand, you know, what trafficking is of people who are not adults.
I'll put it that way.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't think it matters.
We're going to get demonetized hard on this one.
lydia smith
Whatever.
tim pool
But listen.
The people that were involved in this are very powerful.
adam crigler
Clearly.
tim pool
And they've been getting away with whatever it is for a long time.
We don't know who they are.
I'm not going to pretend to know who they are.
The accusations have been laid out.
I believe even Ellen Powe, the feminist former CEO of Reddit, said that in 2011 they all knew.
They knew what she was doing.
They knew what she was involved in.
If that's true, what does that mean for all of the people who were involved with Maxwell and Epstein up until Epstein got arrested?
They knew they didn't care.
lydia smith
Well, that's what Virginia was saying.
I don't know if you remember Virginia, but they were she's saying that if if sorry, there's a bug.
She's saying that if Miss Maxwell gets up in front of everybody, she could name some really, really significant names that would change everything.
So I'm really curious what happens now.
tim pool
I think I have some speculation as to what's going to happen.
What say you, good sir?
I think Ms.
Maxwell's in danger.
I think most people agree.
And I think when it came to Epstein, everybody said it and it was a joke and then it happened.
adam crigler
And then no one believes what they're telling us.
And then I actually saw an interesting tweet.
I don't remember who sent it out there.
They were saying if If he did do it to himself, I'm going to be careful with my words, if he did do that, and that's what the story is, why would they be treating Ghislaine like she's in danger?
tim pool
Yeah, so somebody mentioned... Can you look that up?
Are they moving her around?
lydia smith
They are, yeah.
And she said that she's concerned about her own safety, I believe.
tim pool
And didn't she say that she doesn't believe that Epstein... Oh no, she doesn't believe that he...
lydia smith
Uh, pass away of natural causes.
tim pool
Oh man, I'm just waiting for someone to kick the door in and then, you know, Tim Kessler rolls over.
lydia smith
That'll be a good show.
tim pool
Makes everybody a little paranoid, man.
It certainly does.
I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, when, when, you know, just because they're, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you.
I think they're desperate.
Whoever they is, I don't know.
I don't know, but clearly there is a criminal conspiracy.
That's why the investigation into Deutsche Bank.
That's why the criminal charges.
Of course there are co-conspirators.
I'm not playing into any of these conspiracy tropes.
I don't care about any speculation as to who people might think these people are.
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
We have arrested, the United States has arrested Maxwell.
She's been charged with certain things.
If that's the case, there are likely other people that she's done business with that don't want their name attached to it.
And so this is what I'm saying, man.
A lot of people are like, it would be too risky to pull these things off with a judge.
Like, no, it must have been some disgruntled attorney who she ruled against, because it would be too risky.
It's not too risky.
adam crigler
Not at all.
tim pool
Because now that she's been targeted, and likely it's a chilling effect, a lot of people are going to avoid this case.
We're not going to hear the names of people involved, because who's going to want to go?
I mean, will they actually, in good faith, to the extent that they can, actually go after this properly?
Or are they going to be like, um, everything looks in order here.
Uh, okay.
Dismissed.
Have a nice day.
I don't want to be involved.
If it comes to Maxwell and her testimony, she needs say one name.
And whoever's name that is, it's going to be a domino effect.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
Because then they go and arrest that person.
You know what I mean?
So, think about it.
You're this ultra-rich, multi-millionaire dude, and you know that Maxwell can say your name.
It may cause riots, it may destabilize everything, but why would you let her testify?
adam crigler
You're right.
tim pool
They're moving her around.
adam crigler
And that's, I mean, it's everybody's thinking it.
Everyone's thinking it.
You guys are all out there.
I'm reading the chat.
I see what you guys are saying.
We all are thinking, you just said it.
Everyone was thinking it before he, you know, whatever happened in his cell happened.
tim pool
You know what the worst part of this is?
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
It kind of makes me feel like we're in some kind of like movie, but we're all ancillary characters.
adam crigler
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Otherwise you'd know what's going on.
We're all, we're all, we're all side characters.
We, uh, unfortunately not involved in the main plot.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, we're just, we're just like in, I mentioned this before, like we're in fallout three and we're just the wasteland radio, like playing in the background.
Someone, someone's off doing the adventure, tracking this stuff, the actual investigators.
adam crigler
But wasn't there, um, something to do with the head lawyer or judge in New York state that was replaced?
tim pool
The Southern District of New York's, what was his name, Bremer?
lydia smith
I do not know.
adam crigler
It was right before she got arrested.
She was replaced out and then... His guy was fired.
tim pool
Bill Barr tried removing him and said he was resigning and the guy said, no, I'm not.
And then Barr said, you're out, get out.
adam crigler
Yeah.
Whoa.
Okay.
tim pool
And then the left said that this was Bill Barr trying to cover things up because this dude who got removed was on the level and going after Trump.
When... The right says that this guy was shielding them and Epstein died while he was the prosecutor.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
I'm sorry, man.
I'm gonna have to side with that on the right with this one in the sense that whoever was... The first thing he did was arrest Ghislaine.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
Whoever's involved in Epstein, you gotta get rid of them.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Because at the very, you know, worst case scenario is this guy died on the watch of all of these people.
adam crigler
Good point.
tim pool
No, sorry.
You know, you gotta get some new people in there even if it's an issue of incompetence.
adam crigler
Yep, exactly.
tim pool
And this guy was like, no.
He was like, I'm not getting out, so they got rid of him.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Now Maxwell's being rotated.
So the question is, if Epstein, you know, ended himself, then why would they be moving Maxwell around and keeping her under super high security?
adam crigler
Right.
lydia smith
Well, it literally says in this article I found that they're worried about assassination attempts on her.
That's what they say.
I mean, I'm reading them the New York Post, so I'm gonna go with that.
tim pool
So let me ask you then.
The New York Post said they're worried about assassination attempts?
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
They're worried about assassination attempts, and an assassin just showed up and killed the son of a judge that was overseeing a lawsuit for Epstein's finances.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Look man, let me level with all you guys.
adam crigler
Hold on, not only that, they continued working with him after he got in trouble.
And that's what they're being investigated by because they continued to work with him even though he was being prosecuted for what he was doing.
Interesting.
In 2008, I believe.
Yeah, yeah.
When he was found out, right?
And then they continued just working with him and then that's why they're being investigated now.
tim pool
I just want to make sure everyone understands.
We are on the razor's edge with this live show right now.
adam crigler
That is correct.
tim pool
And you say one wrong word, and they're just sitting there waiting, their fingers shaking, like, say it.
I'm gonna ban you.
You didn't say it.
Just say the one wrong word and we're going to smash that ban button.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
No, yes.
We got to be really, really careful about, you know.
But I'll be honest with you guys.
I'm not a big fan of conspiracy theories in any capacity because people like to make assumptions.
And then when you do, it actually makes it harder to figure out.
And you also have to be careful because when there are actual conspiracies, they're going to throw you red herrings on purpose so that you say something dumb.
And then as soon as you do, you're off the trail.
adam crigler
Well, gotcha.
And, exactly, you're veering towards something that they wanted you to go towards.
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
That's what you're digging into when they're over there.
tim pool
When WikiLeaks released a bunch of emails, we saw really strange conversations from high-profile figures.
All of a sudden, these fake posts popped up, lying, just literally making up slang terms.
They were like, this word means this, and this word means that.
Literally made it up.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Everyone just bought it.
And it became the narrative to where they're like, look for this word and that word.
And it's just nonsense.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
They threw everyone off the actual trail and it was brilliantly done.
I remember because I remember when these conspiracies were emerging and I was following the emails because it was a WikiLeaks release.
I was looking at what was being said about this very interesting stuff.
Here's some leads.
And then all of a sudden, for some reason, a bunch of fake posts popped up and started getting spread.
And now everyone believes, still to this day, people believe fake things.
I see it all the time.
adam crigler
Completely fake.
tim pool
I do too.
adam crigler
I see it all the time.
tim pool
But some of it is real.
The problem is, it took only one person, probably some, it could be, it could, look, it could range from some dumb person in their basement laughing, being like, I'm gonna make this up and press enter, to an intelligence, you know, agency or a state, you know, funded agency being like, let's throw him off our trail.
And that's why conspiracy theories are a problem.
If you don't have evidence, stop.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
So now we have stupid conspiracy theories, which make it impossible to actually track down who did what, because the whole thing's discredited, now you can't even talk about it.
That's all... It's so annoying.
You know what, man?
I mentioned earlier that one of the reasons why there's no real journalists is because of the threat to people's safety and stuff like that.
But the other reason is just... People, well for one, money.
Easier to make money doing other things.
unidentified
But...
tim pool
When someone throws false evidence and an internet community just gobbles it up like red meat, it creates this bubble, this echo chamber, that's not journalism.
And so opportunists will chase after it to make money.
They'll jump in the pit with everybody else.
And then once everyone's in the pit, YouTube goes snip, chops it off and throws everyone in the ban list.
You can actually do real journalism tracking this stuff.
So I'll just say, man, you know, there are a lot of emails that got leaked, a lot of really weird stuff that may suggest weird things, and then fake news jumped in, and now the whole thing is a muddy mess of fake news that you can't actually break through.
adam crigler
Well, I know that there's...
There's all these statistics going around about how many traffickers are being arrested under the Trump administration.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Comparing it to the Obama numbers.
tim pool
Is that true, though?
I mean, I've seen screenshots of it.
adam crigler
Yeah, well, that's kind of what I was going to talk about, and I have something pulled up here, and it's just, this is a quote from him.
He's saying, my administration is putting unprecedented pressure on traffickers, home and abroad.
He said during an event, he said, we have signed more legislation on human trafficking than any other administration has ever even thought about it.
Of course it's a little, but he authorized over $400 million in fighting the issue.
So he's pushing, he's pushing for it.
You know, and a lot of people I ask, you know, I asked a tweet a couple of weeks ago, like, what, what is it about Trump that you really like?
And a lot of people said that that is the number one thing that he's fighting trafficking.
tim pool
There's this young woman who's going viral because apparently she got red-pilled on Trump running for traffickers.
adam crigler
Oh yeah, right.
Jude?
tim pool
I don't know.
I don't care to, you know, I'm not saying this to shout.
adam crigler
That's all I know.
tim pool
I'm just pointing out that a lot of people quickly jumped on it.
She put a TikTok and she was saying, like, once you realize Trump is actually going after the traffickers, like, you kind of wake up to it.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I do think a lot of people are wrapped up in too much conspiracy theory.
adam crigler
I can agree with that.
tim pool
So I think it's fair to say For an average person, tracking what the Justice Department has done with Epstein, his history, the witnesses who have come out, this dude was trafficking.
And so is, you know, Ghislaine or whatever, Maxwell.
And they're being arrested and charged for these things because there's probable cause, there's evidence, they're going after him.
From there, we can speculate as to all the people who flew on his plane, who've been on his island.
And I believe that does include Donald Trump.
There's a lot of photos of him with Epstein and, you know, a lot of other people, which leads the left to argue Trump is trying to cover up and the right saying he's trying to go after the guy.
I think there was some lawyer who said that Donald Trump was the only person who actually said, my resources are at your disposal.
Did you see that?
adam crigler
Yeah, to take him out.
tim pool
He told the lawyer who was defending one of the victims.
Trump was like, let me know what you need.
So in my personal opinion, having seen a lot of these stories, you know, what's going on, I personally think that Trump is more likely to be going after these people and trying to get them.
adam crigler
I absolutely think that.
Yeah, definitely.
I've done extensive research on Donald Trump over the past month and all of the things that I've seen has shown me that he is absolutely against this and wants to bring them down.
tim pool
We'll see.
Someone tweeted this when Epstein got arrested.
They said, if Epstein gets arrested, we riot, right?
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
If he kills himself, we riot.
Not if he gets arrested.
And then with Maxwell, they said the same thing.
And I'm just like, yeah, no.
adam crigler
You didn't riot before.
tim pool
I'm not going to riot now.
Isn't it crazy what people riot for?
You have Epstein and Maxwell.
You know what they're doing.
What's going on, man?
adam crigler
Well, it'd be interesting to see what would happen if mainstream media pushed the narrative like they do other things.
I don't want to specifically call anything out, but they do play with people's emotions.
And if they were to do it this way, would they riot?
Would they?
I don't know.
tim pool
Didn't a bunch of people in media fly with Epstein and go to his Diddler Island?
adam crigler
Probably why they're not talking about it.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
Man, we live in a creepy country with a bunch of creepy people doing creepy stuff, man.
adam crigler
Yeah, now they're... No, I don't wanna... I gotta be careful what I'm gonna say.
I'm not gonna say it.
tim pool
Let's talk about Michael Hastings.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
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There you go.
And, uh, yeah, no, but for real, yeah, absolutely hit the like button if you would be so kind.
Takes only but a second.
adam crigler
And share.
Share this video.
That really helps us also.
tim pool
I want to talk to you guys about Michael Hastings.
And the reason why is because There are a lot of people in media who want to downplay the Epstein stuff.
It's a conspiracy theory.
Oh no, it happened.
Aren't our prison systems just so awful?
That proves it!
No, no, no, no.
Sorry.
I don't buy it.
Listen, man.
I'm not a conspiracy fan.
I can't tell you who did what or why, but I can tell you an investigation needs to be done beyond what they claim.
I don't think it's fair to say that when it comes to cases like Epstein or otherwise, there's a lot of confidential and secret information and they're not going to tell you.
It's hard to know what to believe.
But conspiracies harm the actual quest for truth because you have to make sure the evidence guides you and you don't leap forward and then work backwards.
And that's the problem in my opinion with a lot of conspiracy theorists.
Is they'll see a story like, you know, like Epstein and be like, I know who did it!
And they'll choose their one politician they don't like, be it Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump, and then try and work things back to prove what they think instead of starting somewhere and following the evidence and going down the path and then being like, wow, I can't believe it.
It was neither.
I'm not going to say any names.
I could make a funny joke about some obscure politician, but considering the severity of the story, I won't.
But I introduce you now to the story of Michael Hastings.
And I mean, with all due respect to Michael, to his friends, to his family, I know it's probably a sore subject for a lot of people.
This man lost his life.
I know many people who knew him were good friends with him.
And this was a crazy story back in 2013 that sent chills down the spines You know what started happening?
Journalists started joining the PR field and marketing.
I'm not going to say that it's completely due to this.
And then all of a sudden, around the same time, you know what started happening?
Journalists started joining the PR field and marketing.
I'm not going to say that it's completely due to this.
It does have to do with the fact that the industry was collapsing.
I'd be willing to bet though, considering some of the conversations I have, some people
were like, I'm going to go figure out how to sell tickets to a movie theater.
adam crigler
I'm gonna go work at BuzzFeed and write about Brad Pitt's junk.
tim pool
No, that wasn't those people.
adam crigler
No?
tim pool
No, that was never those people.
The people who did that are the people who are like, go to journalism school and then can't find a job so they go to BuzzFeed and write about Brad Pitt's junk.
adam crigler
Right, okay.
tim pool
I'm talking about people who actually were doing InfoSec, hacker community, high-profile stuff, and then at some point decided marketing was a way better idea.
Yeah, let's sell hot dogs.
lydia smith
Time to learn a new profession.
tim pool
I'll use my social skills and, you know, do research.
Sell hot dogs.
I wonder why.
No, it is fair to say that I think for the most part it's because the industry was collapsing.
But you've got to look at the story.
So the reason I highlight this, whenever someone tells you that it's a conspiracy don't believe it.
You can talk about this.
Who killed Michael Hastings from New York Magazine by Benjamin Wallace. This is a mainstream
high profile publication asking who killed this man. Let me read you the story.
Actually apparently I can't let me see if I can it just booted me out.
New York Mag.
lydia smith
See if we can fix it.
tim pool
I think I got it.
I think I got it.
It's probably going to lock me out soon.
adam crigler
Sneaky.
tim pool
They say, at the end of his life, Michael Hastings, like many of the progressive journalists he counted among his friends, felt besieged by an overreaching government.
Hastings was living in Los Angeles and at a Beverly Hills theater in April.
He took part in a panel discussion about the documentary War on Whistleblowers, Free Press, and the National Security State.
Interviewed in May on The Young Turks, a talk show on Current TV, well, it used to be, Hastings railed against the Obama administration, which has clearly declared war on the press.
The only recourse, he said, was for the press to respond, we declare war on you.
On May 31st, he dashed off an urgent tweet.
First they came for Manning, then Assange, then Fox.
Then the AP, Drake, and the other whistleblowers.
And NYT reporters, too.
He attended screenings of his friend Jeremy Scahill's film, Dirty Wars, which seeks to expose the hidden truth behind America's expanding covert wars.
And when leaks about the NSA began appearing in The Guardian, Edward Snowden Oh, for Pete's sake.
It wants me to spend $5.
Yep.
Let me, let me, let me go down just to the, uh, I'll try and, yeah.
They say by the middle of June though Hastings then 33 become openly afraid
Helicopter helicopters are a common sight in the Hollywood Hills
But he had told Jordana Thigpen a neighbor he'd become close to that there were more of them in the sky than usual
And he was certain they were tracking him on Saturday the 15th
He called Matt Farwell the his writing partner and said Farwell might be interviewed by the FBI
Farwell was unsettled and said for okay. He was being really cagey over the phone, which was odd very odd
On the 17th, Hastings emailed colleagues at BuzzFeed to warn them that the Feds are interviewing my close friends and associates.
He was onto a big story and needed to go off the radar for a bit.
Hope to see you all soon.
I take back that BuzzFeed thing, I guess.
I didn't realize he worked for BuzzFeed.
adam crigler
Did I call that?
tim pool
I called it.
He was deeply agitated, says Cenk Uygur of the Young Turks.
Since Hastings didn't want to say anything more over email or the phone, Farwell, who lived in Virginia, set up a lunch for him the following Thursday with a trusted friend.
The lunch never happened.
At 4.20 a.m.
on Tuesday, June 18, Hastings' silver Mercedes C250 Coupe speeding south on Highland Avenue crossed Melrose, jumped the median, hit a palm tree, and exploded.
The charred body of the driver was identified by the LA coroner as John Doe 117 until fingerprints confirmed that the deceased was Michael Hastings.
Sergeant Joe Biggs, who met Hastings in 08, when the reporter was on assignment for GQ, was embedded with his unit in Afghanistan, hadn't spoken to his friend in three months.
But Hastings had BCC'd him on the June 17th email to BuzzFeed colleagues.
I tried calling him when I got that email, Biggs said, because I felt so effing scared, but it didn't seem like him.
They weren't helpful at all.
I kept emailing back, what should we do?
I'm not a journalist.
I don't know how to go about this stuff.
They never responded to me.
Biggs tried contacting other media to let them know about the ominous email.
The only person who got back to him was a local LA reporter.
If that thing didn't get released, Biggs told me, when I first called him two weeks after Hastings' death, people would keep thinking it was an accident.
They say Hastings lived as he died.
I'm not going to read into all this stuff.
I'm going to jump over now to the Wikipedia that explains much more simply.
I just wanted to read you that story for one reason.
That was a high-profile mainstream news source, the New York Mag, asking the question, who killed him?
This is Michael Hastings' Wikipedia entry.
He was born in 1980, he was 33 when he died, and they have a section called Controversy Over Alleged Foul Play.
Soon after Hastings' death, questions were raised about the crash that took his life.
Former U.S.
National Coordinator for Security, Infrastructure Protection, and Counterterrorism Richard A. Clark said that what is known about the crash is consistent with a car cyber attack.
He was quoted as saying, There is reason to believe that intelligence agencies for
major powers, including the U.S., know how to remotely seize control of a car.
So if there were a cyber attack on Hastings' car, and I'm not saying there was,
I think whoever did it would probably get away with it.
I don't know if this was before or after.
I believe it was after.
There was actually a couple of journalists who demonstrated overt, legit car hack of select vehicles.
Wow.
Most people don't know this, but you can remote control your average car right now, even if it doesn't have automatic driving.
This blew my mind.
I didn't know you could do that.
Apparently, that's like a normal thing.
at the Black Hat at Defcon, big hacker convention in LA, but they literally just took over the
computer of a car, take your hands off the wheel, and they could steer it remotely and
the wheel turns.
I didn't know you could do that.
Apparently that's like a normal thing.
And so they did a couple of tests where they're like driving on the highway and they took
over someone's car remotely who had a journalist for Wired, it took over his car while he was
driving to demonstrate it.
If these hackers, these researchers, figured out how to do this, and it was a very clever workaround because there's very few connections between the systems, what do you think state intelligence agencies could pull off?
They could make it happen, right?
Let's read a little bit more.
adam crigler
Seems like it.
tim pool
The day before the crash, Hastings indicated that he believed he was being investigated by the FBI in an email to colleagues.
That's what they were referencing before.
Which was copied to and released by Hastings' friend, Army Staff Sergeant Joe Biggs.
Hastings said that he was onto a big story and that he needed to go off the radar and the FBI might interview him.
WikiLeaks announced that Hastings had also contacted Jennifer Robinson, one of its lawyers, a few hours prior to the crash.
And the LA Weekly reported that he was preparing new reports on the CIA at the time of his death.
His widow, Elise Jordan, said his final story was a profile of CIA Director John Brennan.
John Brennan.
lydia smith
Oh.
adam crigler
I don't know much about John Brennan.
tim pool
John Brennan.
lydia smith
He's a big name.
Yes.
This article that I found says that Hastings' work was a thorn in the side of the government.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
So I would say that's Brennan.
That sounds consistent.
tim pool
Well, when it comes to Brennan, I'm not going to get too much into it, but ask the Obamagate researchers, the people tracking the Trump spying scandal, Obamagate stuff about Brennan.
Too many names.
And I can't derail into the whole Obamagate stuff right now, but I'm pretty sure everyone in the chat is going to light it up and be like, Brennan.
adam crigler
Just because you said it.
Yep.
Just that simple fact, they're gonna be like, whoa.
lydia smith
They're gonna have to look into it.
tim pool
Yeah, oh man.
adam crigler
Tim for wars.
tim pool
We're gonna get in trouble.
They're gonna show up.
adam crigler
I'm being very careful with what I'm saying.
tim pool
I don't mean on YouTube.
If Hastings was a thorn in the side of the government, and now we're talking about all this stuff.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
tim pool
I don't know, man.
I don't, I'm not saying that the Hastings stuff has anything to do with the Epstein stuff, not at all.
I'm just saying like, This is weird stuff.
Let me read a little bit more.
adam crigler
Let me read a little bit more.
You said that you play it right in the middle and you try to be a fence-sitter, you know, and that's kind of how you thread between.
tim pool
I don't try to be a fence-sitter.
I try to be correct.
adam crigler
Yeah, okay.
That's true.
But, you know, once you push a narrative, and not that I push a narrative because I'm very much like you where I want to know all sides, but I have made a decision on who I'm going to vote for and I've talked about it multiple times, you know, and it's like, They'll just ban you.
tim pool
They gotta get rid of you.
adam crigler
Well, I hope that's the extent of it.
tim pool
That's the extent of it.
adam crigler
If something does happen.
tim pool
Yeah, that's probably it.
The bigger thing I think someone like you would have to worry about, for those that probably aren't familiar, maybe you're just tuning in, Adam had this huge segment where you're announcing you're going to support Trump, and you're like a regular old urban default liberal, not super political.
The bigger risk I think is far-left lunatics coming to your page, harassing you, smearing you, lying about you.
And trying to get you banned from the internet.
So, Adam did this video where he talked about voting for Trump, and then Facebook deleted it after millions of views.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
Like, a couple different times.
And it became this big deal where people were posting, like, yo, where'd this video go?
It's gone.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So then we did a new segment.
You know that segment we did where we talked about it?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's 800,000 views now on YouTube.
adam crigler
Oh, wow, really?
tim pool
Yeah.
My goodness.
And I'm glad we brought it back up because they took it down.
So I can only imagine...
We're not long for the digital world, I suppose.
We'll see what happens.
But I want to read a little bit more here.
I'll just read the last part.
They say, The possibility of a conspiracy or some sort of government involvement in Hastings' death has been discounted by members of his own family, who were with him around the time of his death.
Hastings' widow, Elise Jordan, has said she believes his death to be just a really tragic accident.
Other members of his family have stated that they were concerned at the time that he was a danger to himself from his erratic behavior.
His older brother Jonathan had just flown to LA attempting to organize some sort of
family intervention for what he believed was a drug-induced manic episode, a concern apparently
echoed by others close to him at the time.
Maybe I'll defer, I'll defer completely to the family on these kinds of issues, but I'd
have to imagine if I was working on a big story that was going to profile on another
director of the CIA.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And I was, you know, found something.
And I sent an email saying I got a huge story, this is crazy.
And then I got manic because of it.
I think there's a clear reason why.
Look, I don't want to disrespect him or his family or anything they're saying, I'll defer, but, you know, from the outside, if a journalist starts acting crazy and freaking out because they found a crazy story, I mean, to me that makes sense.
Especially with who they're dealing with.
It is fair to say, though, I mean, people get paranoid and go crazy.
adam crigler
I thought you said you were going to shut conspiracy theories down during this episode.
tim pool
I did.
adam crigler
What do you mean?
No, no.
Yeah.
I mean, it seems like this is exactly what that is.
tim pool
I didn't say anyone killed him.
I'm saying that, like, the reason they may have perceived him as being manic was because he was genuinely terrified of some, you know, big story uncovered.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And it could have been a tragic accident.
It's just that simple.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
It's the challenge of being on the outside of these stories.
And the problem with jumping the gun is, again, it makes it harder to actually uncover what
happened.
But then, of course, sometimes the truth never comes out.
So what do you do?
Therein lies the bigger challenge.
Do we just sit back and say, I guess it was an accident?
You know, if this guy, if it was anybody else who did this, we wouldn't think twice.
We'd be like, a guy got in an accident, you know?
adam crigler
Good point.
tim pool
But it was a journalist working on a story.
And because of our assumptions and because some people want to believe.
And movies.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Because movies.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
You know, people are going to be like, it's a conspiracy.
unidentified
That's it.
lydia smith
Interesting.
tim pool
But maybe it's nothing.
I don't know, man.
Hopefully Maxwell gets to testify.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And that's it.
Hopefully she gets to testify and we'll uncover what's really going on.
lydia smith
Indeed.
tim pool
Man, I'll tell you what.
There's a lot of things that I'm going to avoid saying.
Just be very, very careful.
But the more time goes on, the more it seems that our collective narrative is falling apart completely.
We used to all, as a country, believe specific things that were, like, held to be true.
Now it seems like nothing makes sense anymore.
Like we mentioned, you know, Joe Biden defunding the police, and you end up with, like, 70 stories.
And one says he did say it, he didn't say it, he did say it, he didn't say it.
He means it, but he means something else.
adam crigler
Well, 70 stories, and 68 of them said that he didn't say it.
And then the last two you find, it's like, actually he did, here's the video.
But you have to understand the context.
He didn't exactly say it that way.
And then you have to look at the next site that says this is actually the definition.
So going by that, that's what he's actually meaning.
And that's interesting.
tim pool
But what happens if you find, you know, so Town Hall says, yes, Joe Biden wants to defund the police.
What happens then when you read that and then someone you know reads the other one, and now you both have a totally fractured view of reality?
adam crigler
Well, and there's this video going around right now with all these celebrities.
Facebook that I saw today that said look if you if you think that you know fake
news exists you you have to do some digging check another news source and
then check a different news source that's also trusted because then you'll
kind of get to see what the real truth is and I'm just scratching my head like
oh my gosh like that's so you that's exactly what they want you to do well
Like, oh, go to this place and this place.
See?
They cooperate.
unidentified
But you do.
adam crigler
It makes sense.
Yeah, I know, but you don't go to just different news... I'm gonna do quotes, news sources.
You gotta go through different partisan... That's not how it works.
tim pool
You gotta watch the actual video.
adam crigler
You gotta read the source that they use.
Go to what they're talking about, the actual speech, the actual video of the things that are actually happening.
And that's what I've been doing.
And I'm seeing like, well, see, it's not that, you know, it's wrong.
So I actually, I actually posted your video or no, our video that we, we talk about it, I think from last week or something.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, was that the Kayleigh McEnany or was it Trump?
adam crigler
No, it was the Trump talking about how Biden wants to defund the police.
And it's like, he actually absolutely does from, from the context of what he was saying in that interview.
That's exactly what he's saying.
So it's like, how can you deny that?
Look at the actual speech of what he was talking about, and then go to all the trusted news sources that they would say, go check, and it's all whatever narrative they're pushing, which is go Biden, basically.
tim pool
There was a post from Eric Weinstein earlier.
And he asked, he said that he's noticed a lot of people who are like liberal
saying they're going to vote for Trump for one of two reasons, either his
cognitive decline or because of the new experiment in policing where they
actually don't in the Pacific Northwest.
adam crigler
Uh, yeah.
tim pool
And a bunch of people responded saying they're hearing similar things.
I was talking to a friend of mine who I met at a Black Lives Matter protest.
A young woman holding up a big sign, Black Lives Matter, who now posts, like, MAGA memes.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, and so I DM her and I'm like, so you're voting for Trump?
And she responded, definitely.
And then I put, I met you at a Black Lives Matter rally!
And she was like, right?
And then I was like, I get it, I dig it, and then I posted about it in a video.
When I tweeted what Weinstein said about these liberals, not leftists, liberals, who are now jumping ship and going to Trump like in droves, I hear the same thing from all these lefty journalists.
This one journalist was like, hipster coffee shop, am I right?
And that's a meme that's basically saying, I went to a hipster coffee shop and I overheard them say this.
But I really am hearing this.
And I brought up you, too.
And I'm like, if people like Adam, who was not super political, is now reading all this stuff and being like, yo, I'm gonna vote for Trump, then is that not enough?
I'm not saying it's definitive data that Trump is winning.
I'm saying it's happening, though.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
Dude, I'm not kidding.
This is somebody I met literally at the big Ferguson protests, who's now totally for Trump.
adam crigler
You know why?
Go ahead.
tim pool
You know why?
The trafficking issue.
adam crigler
Yeah, I mean, and it makes sense.
I mean, looking into it, I just read what he said.
He's pushing, he put $400 million to stop it.
You know, it's like, yeah, like, that's awesome.
And I'm actually finding more about that now.
And I wish I had it for the episode that I did last week.
You know, so it's like, Man, like that's a huge, a huge thing.
Bravo, President.
Bravo.
tim pool
I had a, um, I think a fair conspiratorial tweet earlier.
I say fair in that it's not like considered to be crazy.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I said, what if the reason that, you know, I'll give you the gist of it.
What if the reason that everything is so crazy in our country right now is because we're basically the only nation that can stop China's concentration camps?
adam crigler
Oh, I saw that tweet.
I saw that tweet.
tim pool
And there are billionaires in this country who have serious financial interests in China
that are worried, so they use their money to influence politics in this country to make
sure we don't mess with their financial interests.
adam crigler
I saw that tweet and I have to agree with you, man.
tim pool
Well, you know why I tweeted it?
adam crigler
I am assuming you're going to tell me.
tim pool
Because of Mark Cuban.
adam crigler
Oh yeah, that.
tim pool
Because Ted Cruz and Mark Cuban were tweeting at each other, and Ted Cruz asked Mark Cuban if he could tweet free Hong Kong.
And Mark Cuban was like, you know, I can tweet Black Lives Matter and I can criticize this country.
He's like, I'll definitely criticize China as it pertains to American citizens, but I never get involved in domestic politics.
And I saw that and I was like, what?
There's a genocide going on.
What do you mean you don't get involved?
lydia smith
I got three letters for ya.
adam crigler
Just being blind.
tim pool
N-B-A.
Exactly.
unidentified
That's it.
lydia smith
Cuban owns, what is it?
The Mavericks?
tim pool
Yeah, I think so.
lydia smith
Some Maverick action there.
tim pool
Yeah, maybe.
And I started thinking about his interests, and why he won't say, end the genocide.
Because he's gonna lose money.
They would seize his assets in two seconds.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
That's my opinion.
I'm not saying that's really true.
But I do think it's, um...
Vomitus to invoke, like I throw up on my mouth a little bit when he says, I don't get involved in the domestic politics of other countries.
And realize that loading a bunch of people into a concentration camp and harvesting their organs was just a domestic policy issue you didn't want to get involved in.
adam crigler
Did you see that?
I think it was a UK reporter talking to whoever the Chinese guy that they sent out.
You saw that?
And he was just like, We don't have concentration camps.
tim pool
He's like, here's a video.
adam crigler
I was like, OK, well, what do you call them then?
That's all I was thinking.
tim pool
Because that's what they do.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Twitter did that when they were like, we don't shadow ban.
What we do is we make it so that when you post things, no one can see it, but they don't realize it.
And we're like, but that's literally shadow banning.
That's the game they play.
adam crigler
Whoa, we don't call it shadow banning, though.
lydia smith
We don't do that here.
tim pool
So this BBC clip was nuts.
They show the clip of the people being loaded into trains and all that stuff, shaved heads.
And he goes, oh, it's a normal prisoner transfer like you do in the United States.
adam crigler
Oh, no, no, he didn't.
He was like, how do you know that that's real?
How do you know where that's from?
tim pool
He said prisoner transfers.
adam crigler
Whoa, I missed that part.
tim pool
Yeah.
He said, just like in many countries, we do prison transfers.
But he did say, he's like, where did you even get this footage from?
I've not seen it.
I can't verify it.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And then he started saying, like, the Uyghur population is going up and all the stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah, and then those statistics too, he goes all the way back to like the 60s or something.
Yeah.
Yeah, but from the 60s to now, it's double.
It's double.
And he's like, I asked you about just the past two years, and he went back like 40 years.
It's like, what?
tim pool
Well, I'll tell you what, man.
The good news is Majid Nawaz, I believe he won.
adam crigler
He did.
He got enough signatures to go before Parliament and, well, to trigger a parliamentary response.
Right, exactly.
So hopefully it works.
I mean, I'm really, really happy for him.
tim pool
For those that aren't familiar, Majid Nawaz is this very prominent speaker in London on the LBC, I guess it's a radio network.
But he's like an intellectual dark web guy, so I'm sure many of you are familiar with him.
He was on a hunger strike to try and get attention for a petition to get 100,000 signatures so that parliament would address the ongoing genocide in China with the Uighur Muslims, and he succeeded.
So I'm happy about it.
And I've been thinking, you know, I was thinking about it earlier today after I saw this Ted Cruz thing.
And I was thinking about, I was talking to some of my friends and I can't, I can't believe how many times I've been asking somebody about it and they go, wait, is that really happening?
adam crigler
Right, exactly.
tim pool
And I was like, are you for real?
adam crigler
Like, yes.
tim pool
Wow, dude.
I didn't know that people didn't know this.
adam crigler
I mean, I didn't know about it until you told me.
I mean, it was probably a few months ago now, you know, so I've been aware of it.
tim pool
I was talking to a friend and I was basically like, You know what the banality of evil is?
adam crigler
No, what is it?
tim pool
This idea that, like, just following orders.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Right?
I'm not well-versed enough on the full, you know, thesis, the book, and all that stuff, but the general idea, my understanding is that when somebody, like a Nazi concentration camp, Nazi guard, says, I'm just following orders, and they carry out these atrocities, they're doing these evil things, but it's, you know, banality.
It's not like they're, you know, And they're like, it's not Cobra where they're all like,
you know, yeah, Cobra.
It's just regular people who are like, I'll do whatever.
It's like when you see a cop enforce an unconstitutional order, they don't care.
They'll just do it.
And then you see it across this country.
It's evil acts carried out by people who aren't paying attention and don't care.
And so I think about, you know, what's going on with, I was talking to a friend
about these protesters and how they're kind of destabilizing things at home.
They're attacking Trump.
And I was thinking like, I don't know if it's a lesser of two evils, but if Trump is taking action to pull us out of Afghanistan, and he's targeting China, that's our best hope of ending this genocide.
adam crigler
And he's trying to end trafficking of humans.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
So those are two huge things that he's open about.
tim pool
But what are the complaints they have about him?
adam crigler
That he's racist.
tim pool
He's corrupt.
No, they say he's corrupt, he's enriching himself.
adam crigler
They do say that he's racist, too.
tim pool
Sure, sure, sure.
adam crigler
I mean, trust me, I've been in the middle of trying to explain myself to many, many people, and that's one of the... Actually, that is the number one thing that everybody comes to me.
Well, how can you support such a racist?
tim pool
I don't care.
I mean, I don't think he is.
I mean the argument, right?
When they say he's racist, I say, I don't care.
You know why?
Even if Donald Trump was a racist, if he's trying to pull our troops back, I will take four years of a racist president if it means no more war in the Middle East.
adam crigler
I don't believe that he is racist at all.
tim pool
I don't either.
But I was thinking about the banality of evil.
These people who are out screaming and protesting and trying to put Biden in power, and Biden was part of the administration that bolstered the war front in the Middle East and North Africa, And the police-military state that we have here in America.
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
adam crigler
Like, that was Biden.
tim pool
And Black Lives Matter protests started under Obama and Biden, and they want all that back.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
I'm not going to pretend like Trump is good, or I'm sorry, like he's a saint.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
But there's a few key things that I think are Good.
Like, ending the war, going after China for their atrocities, trafficking, like, ending trafficking, and he did right by the economy, and those are really important things.
So for all the criticisms you might have, that he's racist, he's bigoted, he's a loudmouth, braggart, lascivious, I'm like, yeah, that's all true.
But I think about the net positives, and I think about your choice right now.
You have Joe Biden, who literally is on camera groping young girls and sniffing them, and then you complain about Trump.
Okay, well, Joe Biden takes that cake, baby.
And what about, you know, Trump is war.
It's like, actually, there's no new wars under Trump, and Joe Biden, he takes that cake, baby.
And so you want to talk about money laundering and emoluments and racism.
Oh yeah, dude, 40 years of it.
adam crigler
You want to dig into Biden's past about being racist.
Wow.
I went through, I went down that rabbit hole.
tim pool
I just, I just, I put it this way.
I said, do you, I was talking to my friend, I was like, do you know what happened, what's going on right now in China?
And they didn't know.
And so I sent the AP article where it says that China is forced sterilizing people.
I didn't even show the forced organ harvesting yet, but I ended up sending her the forced organ harvesting.
And she was like, I didn't know about this.
And I said, Joe Biden flew with his son to China and his son got a private equity deal for like a billion dollars.
He got like a 10% stake.
unidentified
1.5.
tim pool
1.5.
He got a 10% stake in some private equity firm or something like that.
And I was like, you can talk about Trump flying over to these countries and doing a lot of things too, but right now Trump is absolutely in conflict with China.
adam crigler
Absolutely.
tim pool
And I was like, what about Afghanistan?
Should we be over there?
And it's funny to me how many of my liberal friends have flipped now and become neocons.
I'm not even exaggerating.
adam crigler
That's crazy.
tim pool
They're reading conservative military opinion about why we must be in the Middle East, and I'm like, what?
What is wrong with you?
adam crigler
Right, it's pretty insane.
tim pool
And that, to me, is very much so like the just following orders.
adam crigler
Yep, you're right.
tim pool
Well, you know, Trump is bad, so I think it's good.
I was like, do you know how many civilians died in Afghanistan last year?
Civilians.
adam crigler
I don't.
10,000.
10,000 civilians.
tim pool
We're directly responsible for, I think, around 6-8% of our soldiers' actions in the Middle East.
I'm not saying our soldiers are intentionally doing that.
I'm saying it's a part of it.
adam crigler
But engagements, it happens.
tim pool
And it happens.
And there's a lot of really crazy stories.
Then you've got the coalition forces.
The number actually goes up.
Over the past 10 years, 100,000 civilian deaths.
So when Trump is like, I'm going to put in a plan to remove our troops, I'm like, well, all right, okay.
And then I see all the establishment being like, no.
I'm like, wait, what?
When I talk to my friends and they say, well, actually, I go, wait, what?
adam crigler
Yeah, the same thing.
Like, I actually had an issue with, you know, the whole war machine, the whole us being the world police, you know, Team America.
It was like a funny movie that we were being made.
We were making fun of Matt Stone and Trey Parker.
They were making fun of us for doing exactly that.
And it was a it was a left position to be against the war, to be like, why are we world police?
Why are we out policing the world?
And here we go.
Trump is bringing it back.
And sure enough, everyone's like, well, you This is the confusing thing.
Maybe being the world peace isn't so bad.
unidentified
What?
What happened?
adam crigler
How does your mind work if that's the case?
tim pool
You think about that thing I always bring up where Trump just blurted out, we're selling weapons, it's great for the economy.
And all the anti-war left was like, he just said it.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And so I was thinking about this because Glenn Greenwald is very much a
progressive anti-war, also very anti-Trump, but he's also extremely critical
of the establishment, called out all the Russiagate nonsense.
And I'm thinking about this like, if you are anti-war, if, you know,
Donald, Glenn Greenwald wrote this article saying that the establishment,
including Liz Cheney, are blocking him from pulling out of the Middle East.
He wants to pull our troops out of Afghanistan and Germany, and they said no, and there were eight Republicans and three Democrats.
And I'm thinking to myself, I'm curious, Glenn, if you would consider supporting Trump because of this, because it will get the troops out of the Middle East.
And Trump hasn't sent our troops anywhere, right?
Who was it who wrote, at least there's no new wars?
lydia smith
Yeah, some military commander was like, oh, well, he hasn't started any wars.
tim pool
I was very critical of the Tomahawk strike in Syria that Trump carried out a couple years ago.
But my question now for these progressives is with Trump actually trying to end this war and bring our troops back.
Is there an obligation among the left to actually support Trump?
I ask this question because we were joking about this before.
Like if I were to write a punk rock song right now that was anti-war, the chorus would have to be something about voting for Trump.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
Like, could you imagine how insane that sounds?
adam crigler
Definitely.
tim pool
Vote, vote.
You're pulling up his mask?
adam crigler
Yeah, check this out.
Send this over to me, yeah?
Can you post up my... Okay, so he announced, was it yesterday or today?
I think it was yesterday, he said...
You know what?
Let's wear masks.
Let's do this.
I like this mask, and I don't mind.
tim pool
There's actually a cool mask with a seal on it.
adam crigler
It's dope!
Look at that presidential seal.
All right, if you're going to wear a mask.
I mean, it looks whatever, but now that he's announced it, how long do you think it's going to be until they're like, oh man, he's for masks?
lydia smith
That's exactly what I said.
adam crigler
Do we, do we cancel the mask thing now?
They're going to start saying, what do we do?
tim pool
A study is going to come out saying that masks retain the virus.
And then when people put them on again, it increases the likelihood.
And they're going to talk about how some family members were mixing up their masks and spreading the infection.
lydia smith
Sounds like a real threat.
adam crigler
You want to know something really funny?
unidentified
What?
adam crigler
I'm already seeing those kinds of articles.
unidentified
Are you kidding?
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah, because if you like I've seen an article going around about misproper
After you take the mask off if you don't if it's wet you got to clean it
You got to make sure you don't touch the outside of it never adjust it in public because then you're like touching
the outside of The mask and it's like why is this coming out right now?
Why is this?
Why am I?
Why have I never seen this until right now?
What is going on?
tim pool
I did a video earlier on my main channel about the Democrats are supporting the riots.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And the original title I was going to use, I decided not to because I'm more of a serious news personality, was Ingenious Move Democrats Support Riots Because Donald Trump Opposes Them.
Like, it was a play on the Babylon Bees ingenious move Trump supports impeachment forcing Democrats to oppose.
adam crigler
Right, right, right.
tim pool
But I kid you not, I called it satire-esque.
The Democrats right now are actually on the side of the violent riots because Trump wants them to stop.
adam crigler
I can't believe it.
It's insane.
And they're not calling them riots though.
They're stressing to everyone.
I'm having these arguments with people that are like, how dare the feds attack these protesters?
I'm like, do you have any idea what's actually going on there?
Because they're lighting mortars and throwing them at the cops.
Like in Chicago, a mortar went off and actually went into a neck of one of the police officers.
tim pool
In Seattle that happened.
adam crigler
Oh, it was in Seattle.
Oh, you're right.
No, I'm sorry.
It was Seattle that happened.
tim pool
Fragmentation went in the throat and neck area.
He went to the hospital.
adam crigler
I don't think he's in serious... No, it wasn't critical, but it's like, that's happening.
What are you talking about?
What does that have to do with the feds?
Are you supporting that or not?
Do you realize the riots are actually riots?
The First Amendment says... Do you realize that murder is skyrocketing?
Oh, I know.
And I talk about that too.
I'm like, Chicago, New York, like all these crazy... And you know what places murder... people are getting murdered all the time now.
tim pool
And you know what CNN is doing?
adam crigler
What are they doing?
tim pool
They're like right-wing media skewing the reality of Portland.
adam crigler
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
And Brian Stelter is like, of course there's criticism for the anarchists.
But it's only a 12-block radius of violence.
adam crigler
Like what?
tim pool
Listen.
Listen.
Acting like right-wing media or those that are critical of Antifa are trying to make it seem like the entirety of Portland is a giant fire pit of explosions and like, like Mad Max and like Escape from New York and people are on like dragsters throwing, come on man.
lydia smith
It's a straw man, dude.
tim pool
We know that it's the downtown area and they're attacking one building.
I mean, look, I'll say this.
I can't speak for any other conservative, I can't speak for conservative media.
I can speak for the, whatever you want to call it, politically homeless, disaffected liberal channel that I host, where I've specifically said there are two federal buildings under attack.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
That's it.
And the feds are protecting them.
adam crigler
Well, I mean, that's not the only buildings that are under attack.
They lit the police station on fire, so that's burning down now.
tim pool
The bulk of the siege is like around one building.
adam crigler
Well, but specifically, the feds are protecting the federal buildings.
That's what they're doing.
And not only that, I'm seeing all these videos of the Portland police going out, and they're stopping people too.
They're beating people?
tim pool
The Portland Police put out a statement last night saying we did not engage any of the rioters.
adam crigler
I've seen the videos.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
Last night, because the Democrats have sided with the rioters, the Portland Police didn't come out.
They specifically said everything you saw was the Feds.
We have nothing to do with it.
So now the Portland police are like, we're out because the Democrats want to support the riots because Trump opposes them.
And then they go, the peaceful protesters that, earlier today, peaceful protesters smashed out a window and lobbed mortar-style fireworks at police, causing massive explosions and damage to a building, graffitiing everything, tearing down barricades peacefully.
Peaceful.
adam crigler
That's crazy.
tim pool
And so, look man, every video I see from my friends, it's manipulations.
And I had one friend saying like, dude, I know people who are there.
They're saying the cops are starting it.
And I'm like, the cops are starting it?
adam crigler
My own friend said, I'm in Portland, and that's not happening.
And I'm like, oh, you're in Portland?
Send me a video.
If you're there, go out and show me, give me information.
unidentified
Nope.
adam crigler
I haven't heard back.
tim pool
Because they don't go downtown.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And then what CNN does is they're like, the right wing is pretending like all of Portland is on fire.
I'm like, I don't know about that.
I know that there's one small area that's just constant riots going on.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
The same thing happened in Ferguson though, and the fault is the media in general.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
It's just human beings.
adam crigler
You're right, the media.
tim pool
So I remember, like this is true for anywhere, and I talk about this all the time, like when I was in Egypt during the revolution, you could literally go like three or four blocks away, and there was McDonald's.
And you walk inside, and there's one Coke and a cheeseburger place, and they're like, here you go.
Boom, like that.
And then you walk back, and you're in the revolution.
And people are jumping up and down in Tahrir Square, and there's a McDonald's right there.
And there was a Hilton right there.
I was at the Hilton, I was in the balcony, I'm like at a Hilton, and they have like steak upstairs.
And they had a casino inside.
It was actually kind of nice.
And you look out the window, and there's a revolution going on.
When CNN says they're trying to make it seem like everything's crazy, no, you are by saying that.
You're lying about what critics are saying.
They're claiming all of Portland is burning.
I don't recall anyone putting out a video saying, literally every city block is on fire.
Knows the federal courthouse has been besieged for 53 days.
Yeah, and probably right now The funny thing is Trump supporters are sharing like it's like it's like popcorn night It's like every night you grab the popcorn and turn on TV to watch the riots and the live streams and sit back and just Have a good time like to just watch that's the thing.
Yeah.
Yeah, they're like, oh, it's almost it's almost time.
adam crigler
It's almost time Well, they're all together as one.
tim pool
How about we talk about the the next iteration?
Sure in this story.
adam crigler
Oh, yeah, it gets deeper.
tim pool
Oh No.
Well, I mean, sure.
Ladies and gentlemen, the McCloskeys are being charged with felony weapons count.
Lawyers Mark and Patricia McCloskey wielded guns as marchers moved past their home.
They seized his weapon.
Patricia gave up her gun to her lawyer and it was turned over, but it's inoperable.
The police came and took his rifle away.
Because a large group of people had entered his private property and were walking on his private property, and my understanding is that the police were unavailable.
It's a giant 300 to 500 group, you know, people, and the cops are like, we can't respond to that.
So the guy comes out for whatever reason, says, he said they were threatening him, maybe.
adam crigler
He did say.
tim pool
He said, she said, considering these, these, the, how these mobs operate.
I believe him.
We knew it was coming.
They are literally charging this couple with felony.
With felonies.
Check this out.
Let me read a little bit.
We'll get the context.
But we got some good news.
We got some good news on this one.
The Washington Post reports the St.
Louis couple who emerged from their mansion in a gated community and aimed weapons at protesters marching past them last month were each charged Monday with one felony count of unlawful use of a weapon.
Lawyers Mark McCloskey and Patricia have said they were merely defending their home on a private street in an upscale neighborhood from a crowd that was marching to Mayor Lita Crewson's house to protest racial injustice.
Video and photographs show Mark McCloskey wielding a rifle And Patricia McCloskey aiming a pistol at marchers created a firestorm of controversy, we know all that.
St.
Louis Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner, who filed the charges against the McCloskeys, did not order the couple to surrender or be arrested.
Instead, as part of Gardner's reformist approach to reducing incarceration for low-level crimes... Low level?
These are felonies.
She issued them summonses and said she would consider them for a diversion program, which would enable the charge to be dismissed if a counseling or other remedial course was completed.
The charge carries a possible penalty of probation up to four years.
The McCloskey's attorney, Joel J. Schwartz, called the charges disheartening, as I unequivocally believe no crime was committed.
Schwartz said the McCloskeys support the First Amendment right of every citizen to have their voice and opinion be heard.
This right, however, must be bound to the Second Amendment and Missouri law, which entitle each of us to protect our home and family from potential threats.
It is a castle doctrine state.
You have no obligation to retreat from your property.
You can carry your weapon on your property and you can tell people to F off.
Yet they're being charged now.
Welcome to the morality policing world.
What we're seeing in Oregon with these riots, what we're seeing here, leads me to believe that if the escalation continues, we have already lit the spark, the first spark of a hot civil war.
adam crigler
You're right.
tim pool
The reason for it is, with the Portland police backing down, and these rioters now being emboldened to do whatever they want, Yeah, basically.
The Feds are inside their own building, not engaging.
adam crigler
Right, they're locked in.
tim pool
The rioters tear down the fences, start throwing explosives, setting fires, and then the Feds come out to stop them.
adam crigler
And then the cameras go up.
tim pool
And then the state of Oregon goes out, uses their resources to defend the riots.
So this, to me, sounds like this first spark of a hot war.
adam crigler
Well, and they're blaming, do you see what Nancy Pelosi said about it?
tim pool
Stormtroopers.
adam crigler
Yeah, she, I mean, she's trying to, they're all, all of them are just trying to blame Trump for it.
It's like, oh, it's definitely Trump's fault.
tim pool
We got some good news.
The governor of Missouri has said if they were charged, he would pardon them.
That's great.
He was asked, if it comes to charges, would you pardon me?
He says, that's what I'm thinking, or something like that.
That's where the thinking is going, or something like that.
I think it's very, very likely that the governor is going to intervene and say, nope.
And Josh Hawley, the senator from Missouri, has said he wants a DOJ probe into the violation of their rights, if charges emerge, so they have.
So this is good news.
It's also bad news.
Optimistically, it's good to see that there are people coming to the defense of the McCloskeys who did nothing other than stand on their property with weapons, which they're allowed to do.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, Patricia was pointing the gun at people, but you can argue that, you know, whether she felt threatened, it's an argument.
I don't think you can break on a private property and then complain when someone pulls out a weapon and says, get off my property.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, in a Castle Doctrine state, for the most part.
adam crigler
Especially, yeah.
tim pool
The bad news is the charges happened in the first place, which means morality policing is clashing with political faction.
adam crigler
Good point.
tim pool
The Republicans are saying we want an investigation into civil rights, and the Democrats are saying charge them and arrest them regardless of, you know, it's our interpretation that you've committed a crime.
adam crigler
Slash, let's just get rid of civil rights.
That's what they're doing in California.
tim pool
Yep.
adam crigler
And that seems to be what they're trying to do everywhere in America.
tim pool
Do you know what a letter of mark is, Adam?
adam crigler
No, I don't.
tim pool
I did do a segment about this, but I really want to talk about it with you.
A letter of mark was when in the colonial era.
We didn't talk about this before?
adam crigler
Actually, yeah, it does sound familiar.
tim pool
Pirate ships.
adam crigler
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Privateers.
adam crigler
Well, I guess you explain it anyway, just in case people missed it.
tim pool
Yeah, so basically the government would give a ship a letter of marque, and then they could go into enemy territory and go after their ships.
And then the other countries would be like, oh, they're pirates.
They would blame the crown of England.
And England would say, no, no, they're privateers.
They have nothing to do with us.
We didn't do it.
Because they could feign ignorance.
I look at what's going on now in Oregon, and based on the fact that Portland police have literally issued a statement saying, we did not go out and engage these people, letting them run rampant and damage federal property.
Then the state of Oregon targeted Trump.
The mayor, the senators, the governor, and the AG are saying, federal troops, Trump's army.
So you've got the state literally going up against the executive branch.
adam crigler
That's true, yep.
tim pool
You've got these far leftist extremists from Portland.
They won't indict them.
They won't arrest them.
If Trump tries, they sue to stop him.
It sounds like they can't use their police to go after Trump.
So they have these private groups of rioters engaging in activities they won't be arrested for.
adam crigler
I mean, how many times did we talk about the whole Chaz thing?
They were clearly trying to bait him into coming in and stopping it.
People were calling for him to do it.
They were, you know, half the country was like, yes, Trump, go do it.
And the other, the other half was like, bring it on.
We want you to do it, please.
So we can blame you for it.
tim pool
We're in trouble, man.
adam crigler
You know, and then you got Nancy Pelosi, you know, you, you said it was just the state, but she's, she's sitting on, she's third in line, isn't she?
So she's, she's sitting in on the, you know, with the keys to the back door and she's, she's supporting it also.
tim pool
Yeah, dude.
unidentified
Hmm.
adam crigler
It really makes you think about it, you know?
tim pool
And she's a different branch of government.
Exactly.
adam crigler
I'll tell you what, I've seen... That goes beyond the states.
tim pool
I've seen posts.
There's this thing that happened where the moms, you know, showed up or whatever.
adam crigler
Yeah, the moms.
tim pool
And it's like the most cringey propaganda.
One woman literally wrote mommy with black sharpie on a white t-shirt.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
I'm like, oh, that proves it.
Yeah.
adam crigler
Oh yeah, she's definitely a mom.
tim pool
Women.
And then they show up and then once Antifa starts acting a fool, they're gone.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
They were still there and there are photos and videos of them getting tear gassed and like freaking out.
And these are the things being weaponized by the far left is like,
unidentified
Trump's secret police, he's gassing the moms.
adam crigler
Well, a lot of the arguments that I've gotten in, you know, is,
well, there's, you know, when they took in Black Bag, that one guy,
They're black-bagging people now, and I'm like, okay.
tim pool
Well, we said that.
We were half-joking.
adam crigler
No, no, I know, but, you know, it doesn't matter.
We did talk about it, but that's what they're now saying.
Look at what he's doing.
Look at the fascist state we're in, you know?
It's like, they're black-bagging people, and I'm like, they probably saw him do something.
Probably, I mean, police are getting attacked.
tim pool
He was getting questioned.
adam crigler
Well, I mean I tried to explain you can't you can't I know this is what I'm learning, you know, you can't even because How man it's like just because they know my position instantly I disagree with them on every single issue that they think and Every single one, you know suddenly I'm just the enemy now.
I'm evil, you know, and it's like, okay Well, you clearly don't know my character, even though you we've known each other for 15 years You know, you would think that they would trust the fact that I've made a decision to ask me why at least Instead of just bombard me with how dare you how dare you?
tim pool
You know, it's like Tribalism is all that matters at this point.
adam crigler
Yeah, you're right.
tim pool
So I saw someone, some journalist tweeted, it was like one of those bingo memes, if you had Trump launching a secret police force to snatch his dissidents off the street, you know, on your 2020 bingo card, well, I guess you've won or something stupid like that.
And I thought to myself, like, this journalist is actually tweeting to people that's what's going on.
Journalists with like tens of thousands of followers.
Followers who believe that's reality and it's not.
Like what, a couple people got arrested, or not even arrested, detained for questioning, and that was it?
And you're screaming?
Where were you when Obama signed the NDAA, which included the indefinite detention provision in 2012, which gave him
the right to like secretly rendition people?
adam crigler
Yeah, no one talks about that.
tim pool
If you had, George W. Bush creates Presidential Directive 51 on your 2007 bingo list that allows the president to overthrow the entire U.S.
government, create a new constitutional government under his authority, then check off your bingo.
What are the people talking about?
It's complete absurdity.
adam crigler
TDS is real.
tim pool
And you know what really bothers me?
When we were talking about that conspiracy earlier with like people like Michael Hastings, man, it was bringing back memories.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Reading about these principled leftist, you know, anti-war individuals who now have nothing but Trump derangement syndrome blinding them.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And Trump is literally like, let's bring our troops back.
And I'm like, I'll take it.
And they're like, no, the orange man is bad.
And I'm like, well, I don't know about all that, but I mean, you were the one who told me 10 years ago, we got to get our troops out of the Middle East.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Now you're saying what?
adam crigler
It doesn't make any sense.
tim pool
The orange man is bad.
adam crigler
It's just them believing the narrative.
tim pool
These are Trump's secret police that were emboldened under Obama and created under Bush?
What?
lydia smith
That's complex.
tim pool
You know what, man?
The problem is, the federal cops in Portland can't literally leave the courthouse.
Otherwise, they would just break into the courthouse, ransack everything, and destroy it, and then blame Trump.
adam crigler
Why didn't you stop this?
tim pool
So then when they start throwing firebombs at it, and setting fires, and the Feds come out and say, get back, and they try to put the fires out, what do we get?
That retired Navy guy who stands next to the cops and they start hitting him because he won't move, and now the narrative is Trump's secret police- They beat a veteran.
Yep.
adam crigler
It's like, well, did you see the 10 minutes up to that port?
unidentified
Nope.
adam crigler
Nope, they're just pushing that one spot out there.
tim pool
I remember when I first started live streaming, people kept telling me, like, now we'll always have the truth.
Because when you're live, they can't lie.
And I said, that's not true at all.
You know why?
I could go out to live stream, anybody could go out to live stream, they press go live, and they hire one of their buddies to dress like whatever they want and threaten them.
And then all of a sudden it's like, Far Right threatens live streamer.
And you wouldn't know, they're wearing a mask.
You would have no idea who it was.
Or they could pretend to be Antifa, and I'm like, it doesn't matter.
adam crigler
Both sides.
tim pool
What happens is, Antifa starts a fire in front of the building.
So they come out, and they try to clear the area, because there's a fire.
This guy walks up to him and goes, I want to talk to you about the Constitution, and they're like, get back, you know, get back, and he's like, no.
So they start hitting him, and he refuses to move, so they spray him, and then he moves and he flicks him off, it's like...
You were in the Navy?
Like, what do you think's going on, dude?
It's a federal courthouse and they started a fire in front of it.
adam crigler
I haven't found any proof of that.
He was wearing a shirt.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
That's what they're saying.
adam crigler
He's a retired Navy guy.
But that's where they're getting their information from.
It's from his t-shirt.
unidentified
Yep.
adam crigler
You know?
I'm just gonna take this second to just remind everybody and inform everybody that we have all All three of us have seen the Yuri Bezmenov interview.
tim pool
Why are they saying it?
adam crigler
I've seen it a few times.
I'm just gonna jump ahead here and just let you know we know about it.
And if you don't, go check it out.
tim pool
I've put a spam filter.
adam crigler
Oh really?
So you don't even see it anymore?
tim pool
Because I probably get 50 a day.
Seriously.
Because we're getting like 75-78 million views per month.
unidentified
Wow, really?
adam crigler
Wow.
Holy cow.
Throw all my channels, but yeah, so it's like, okay, the cast network.
tim pool
Yeah.
So my, so this, this plus my Twitter channels is totaling like almost 80 million.
So I get like 50 emails a day about Yuri Bezmenov.
adam crigler
I'm sure.
tim pool
And so now to the point where it's like delete, delete, delete and spam filter.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Any, anyone who sends me anything having to do with Yuri Bezmenov is permanently banned from my email list.
Like you will never get an email into me ever again if you do that.
And I'm not trying to be disrespectful because I know a lot of people just don't know this.
Right.
adam crigler
That's why I took this time to just make a public service announcement to let everybody know.
tim pool
It's really difficult, you know, considering the amount of emails I already get, but to have one where it's just like, yo, you need to see this video, man.
This video is going crazy.
It's viral.
And I'm like, all right, what's this?
Oh, come on, man.
adam crigler
You know it's from 1984, right?
And Tim's been doing this for...
How long?
10 years?
10 years?
tim pool
Dude, I watched the Yuri Bezmenov video a long, long time ago, back in like the loose change era.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
You know, it's like, you gotta see what's going on, and they like, show everybody this.
Like, when was loose change, like 2006 or something, 2004?
adam crigler
I have no idea.
tim pool
Yeah, it was a long time ago.
Oh man, just getting 50 emails a day.
And then the crazy thing is people who track down my private email addresses and then I'm like, that's so disrespectful, dude.
I have public email addresses where people can contact me and I have forms on my website and people still try and look up public records and do the stuff to like get around these things.
It's just, it's frustrating, man.
adam crigler
I bet.
tim pool
Well, let's do, we got, we got one more I really got to talk about.
lydia smith
Okay.
tim pool
Redwood City scrubs Black Lives Matter mural after Trump supporter asks to paint MAGA 2020 on same street.
adam crigler
MAGA 2020 on same street. On the same... was in the same spot? Wait, wait. I'm sorry, I'm just...
tim pool
Before we actually... I'm finding out this too. Before we read any further,
I would like to give a pseudo standing ovation to this individual.
Come on, give me a little clap.
adam crigler
I'm actually, I'm pretty impressed.
tim pool
This is the most... I'm pretty impressed here.
This is amazing.
You see here, listen, listen.
We know, everybody you've been hearing about Bevelyn Beatty, right?
That's her name?
She is considered this MAGA Trump hero because she's been splashing paint on the Black Lives Matter murals and then, you know, talking about how they don't actually care about black lives.
She's a Trump supporter.
She's saying things like Jesus matters and Jesus Christ is his name.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I have respect for what she's doing because she's engaging in non-violent civil disobedience.
adam crigler
It's true.
tim pool
Whereas normally I would say I don't like, I would actually condemn the splashing of paint so long as they're allowing Antifa to spray paint, you know, buildings and statues and then calling them peaceful protesters.
Then why would I complain about what Bevelyn's doing?
You're right.
adam crigler
It's like... It's a good point.
tim pool
If these are the standards we're abiding by, what do you want me to say?
adam crigler
However... Maybe she should try spray paint instead of dumping paint because maybe it's specifically spray paint they allowed.
Just letting you know.
Well, just saying.
tim pool
This is the smartest thing, period.
Because I have said over and over, the correct way to deal with this is to simply assert your equal rights under the law.
If they write Black Lives Matter, then you should be able to write All Lives Matter right next to it.
Of course, they're not going to want to do that.
So sure enough, some very smart Trump supporter said, okay, I want to paint MAGA.
And they were like, get rid of it, get rid of it, take it down.
and they got rid of it instead. However, I believe this Trump supporter should still
file a lawsuit demanding their right to do it because Black Lives Matter was already painted.
adam crigler
Oh, they got rid of it?
tim pool
Yeah, so they scrubbed the... they got rid of it.
They got rid of the mural for Black Lives Matter because they didn't want MAGA on the streets.
adam crigler
Oh, okay, yeah.
Yes.
tim pool
That's why I'm clapping.
lydia smith
I'm like... That's amazing.
tim pool
However, they already wrote Black Lives Matter.
Therefore, they have already made the streets a public forum, and this individual still has the right to say MAGA 2020 on the street.
They can't reject him now.
adam crigler
Wow, you're right.
tim pool
That's a good point sue or you could sue the judicial watch is suing they want quote because no one is above the law
written on DC streets Because they wrote Black Lives Matter. Yeah
Not only that, I say you go one step further.
For every street that's been renamed Black Lives Matter, I think you should sue and say you wanna rename a street All Lives Matter, or hey, how about MAGA 2020?
adam crigler
Or simply just Lives Matter.
No, no, no, the point is- If you need a color in front of that, then you have an issue.
tim pool
If they're going to write a political message on street names and in the streets, then anyone should be allowed to do the exact same thing.
So they want to make Black Lives Matter Plaza.
I got no beef.
I'm not going to say, like, I disagree with the paint.
They got their street.
I'm happy for you.
Congratulations.
I love it.
That's good for you.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Now I'm gonna get my street.
I'm going to make.
How about I say, you know, Tim Pool for president.
How about I get.
I want that.
I want that on the street.
adam crigler
Don't tease us, man.
tim pool
I want that.
I want that in New York City.
I want Mayor Bill de Blasio to use taxpayer money to write, Tim Pool is the best, political message.
adam crigler
I want to see that.
tim pool
They have to allow it.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
What's their defense going to be in court?
We only allow our political message?
adam crigler
That's what they're, I mean, well, I can't wait to see what they have to say, actually, honestly.
tim pool
They made streets a public speech forum.
adam crigler
You're right.
tim pool
And they can't deny people now.
adam crigler
It's true.
tim pool
Even trying to get rid of it's not going to be enough.
Check it out.
They say, many communities across the country are displaying Black Lives Matter street murals.
Redwood City was one of them until last week when the city quietly removed it.
Redwood City resident Dan Peace got permission from city officials to paint Black Lives Matter sign on Broadway as part of the 4th of July public art celebration.
The city even supplied him with yellow poster board paint to do it.
Well they're paying for it too?
Well now you gotta pay for my paint to write my message.
Because we were using the poster board paint that would eventually deteriorate over time, my understanding from them was that the mural would last as long as the paint lasted.
But last Thursday, the city washed the sign away after being contacted by a local real estate attorney, Maria Rutenberg, who said that if the street was now a public forum, she wanted a sign of her own reading MAGA 2020.
Standing ovation.
adam crigler
To you, Maria.
To you.
tim pool
I saw Black Lives Matter sign appearing on Broadway Street on the asphalt, and I figured, that's gonna be new public space, open for discussion, and I wanted to get my message out too.
Brilliant.
MAGA is of course short for Make America Great Again, a rallying cry for supporters of Trump.
Faced with the possibility of a political and or legal fight, the city suddenly decided that Dan Peace's sign was a traffic hazard.
That might cause accidents, and they removed it in the middle of the night.
Peace says he doesn't consider Black Lives Matter to be a political statement, but he understands the position the city was in.
It doesn't matter if it's a political statement to you, what matters is it was speech, period.
If I paint anything, even an abstract picture of outer space, that is speech, and therefore anyone can write anything.
They opened the door for this, and washing it away will not change that fact.
I have no hard feelings to the city council, Peace said.
I am disappointed, but at the same time, I am very grateful that they allowed me to put that message on Broadway.
And there it is.
They let me put that message on Broadway.
Scrub it away all you like.
I hope that this real estate agent is... Maria?
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Carry on.
It is still a public forum.
Erasing it doesn't change the fact that the door has been opened.
adam crigler
Well, I'm just gonna say this right now.
Maria Rutenberg, thank you.
And you've opened the door and the minds of many other people that want to put their message out there.
So... This is a matter... I think this is just the beginning.
tim pool
This is a matter of free speech, not political support for anybody.
adam crigler
Boom.
tim pool
If you want to write Black Lives Matter in the street, I think the city should not permit it because that would open up the street to literally everybody.
What happens now if someone decides to write the 14 words?
The city can't say no.
Congratulations, you did this, New York.
Someone can go to New York right now and say, I want the 14 words across, you know, a 50 seconds, you know, street or whatever.
I want it right in front of Central Park on Billionaire's Row.
The 14 words.
You know what that is?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
The Nazi slogan.
adam crigler
Oh wow.
tim pool
And what are they going to say?
No.
Too bad?
I know I'm taking the extreme stance on this one, but that's the fact.
When you make the street a public forum, this is what you've done, and that's why I thought it was a bad idea.
Now with this woman wanting MAGA on the street, I'm not saying that to support Trump or MAGA, I'm saying it to support the First Amendment and equality under the law.
adam crigler
Freedom of speech, baby.
tim pool
That's a good point.
mistake. But every single jurisdiction who has done this has opened the door that cannot be closed.
The moment the paint touched that ground with your permission
and in some instances they paid for it.
That means they're gonna have to pay for it too.
That's a good point. You can be like I want I want to set the
adam crigler
precedent. Yep.
tim pool
I wanted to say Trump 2020 and you're paying for it.
I wanted to say the wall and I want you to pay for it.
And then you can tell your friends we got the wall done and they paid for it.
adam crigler
That's good.
tim pool
So all it takes now is any one person.
Now I'll tell you what.
Imagine if a hundred people, a hundred people all threatened to sue.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
The city would be in serious trouble.
Any one of these cities.
adam crigler
All of these cities.
tim pool
Imagine if a thousand people.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And guess what?
It's a first amendment issue.
It's national.
It's not citywide.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Meaning anyone from anywhere should legally be able to do it.
I could be wrong.
I'm not a lawyer.
Okay.
adam crigler
Wait, she, oh, she's, she's an attorney.
tim pool
She's a real estate attorney, right?
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
She's a real estate attorney.
That's what it is.
Yeah.
Real estate attorney.
tim pool
Does it say that, though, for sure?
adam crigler
It says right there, local real estate attorney Maria Rudinboe.
tim pool
So she seems to know what she's on about.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So think about it.
I'm curious as to how many bored people there are and how many streets we are going to see over the next few weeks littered with crazy messages that make no sense.
Because she just did it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Now they quickly erased it like, oh no, oh no.
But I don't think they can win.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
I don't think they can.
adam crigler
No, not at all.
People want this.
They're looking for this.
They are flying to the shelves to buy Goya.
I know that's kind of like a random thing, but look at that.
tim pool
People should demand that Goya be written in the streets.
adam crigler
You're right.
tim pool
No joke.
adam crigler
No joke.
I agree with you completely.
tim pool
I want to see a gigantic mural of a can of Goya black beans just straight down Fifth Avenue.
Man, dude, that would be one of the most triggering things you could do because sure it was nonsensical. It's true
But no, but I but I but I do mean it Erasing this shouldn't change the fact that the speech was
already permitted. Yeah, exactly come out and say it was a mistake
We shouldn't have allowed it, but I think any good judge is gonna say I get it, but you've given the speech already,
adam crigler
right?
Right.
tim pool
You can't take away the fact that you've granted people the right to speak.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
You can set a time limit, I suppose, but to be fair under the law, however long that message existed, anyone should be able to write it.
adam crigler
De Blasio put 27 police officers to protect the Fifth Avenue one.
So not only are they allowing the speech of what they're saying or what they're allowing, they're putting 27, that's more than any other unit that they have in New York City.
27 police officers are now holding that sign to keep it safe.
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
Are there going to be an... So how much money are the New York residents paying for this political message?
adam crigler
That's a great question, Tim.
tim pool
I'm sorry, man.
They made such a serious, serious tactical error on this one.
adam crigler
Agreed.
tim pool
Because now, if they put 26 cops on that, you should be able to legally argue for the same thing from the city.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
How stupid.
adam crigler
I want to write MAGA 2020 on 6th Avenue.
And, uh, I want 27 police officers to protect it.
tim pool
Because people might vandalize it.
adam crigler
Yep.
unidentified
Oh, they definitely would.
And they will.
Yeah.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
And you know what Bill de Blas is gonna say?
adam crigler
He's gonna say nope.
tim pool
Yep.
And then here come the lawsuits.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
You know what, man?
I'm not confident that it'll be upheld, though.
These suits will probably take a long time.
But, look how fast they removed the mural.
At the very least, you might see all these cities and jurisdictions.
adam crigler
Oh, they were sweating.
What city was this in?
tim pool
This seems like a small... Redwood City?
Yeah, Redwood.
adam crigler
Where's Redwood?
tim pool
I think it's in the Bay Area.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
California.
tim pool
Yep.
If one person filed a suit, they'd probably win.
I could be wrong, but I think they'd win.
I don't know how you argue this to a judge.
We're allowed to put up a political message and pay for it for this one group, but not anyone else.
And yeah, the judge is going to be like, you can't do that.
That's the first amendment applies to everybody.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
If the citizens have a right to write something, then all citizens have a right to write something.
And if the local government, if the government is going to be paying for it for citizens, then the government pays for it for whatever citizens want, whatever message.
adam crigler
Yeah, boom.
Yeah, and they love the Reem Trump part for just protecting the statues that people were defacing, ripping down.
And now de Blasio is protecting... How is it not a political statement?
You know, it is.
tim pool
It doesn't matter if you think it is or isn't.
Correct.
It's speech.
adam crigler
You're absolutely right.
It doesn't matter if it is or it isn't.
It's there.
It's already a public forum.
They set the precedent.
tim pool
How many people watch us are in New York?
I wonder.
How many bored people can spend a few minutes to file a petition or something?
adam crigler
I don't care what city you're in.
It doesn't matter.
If you feel like it's wrong, that they get to write it down, and you can't, what are you waiting for?
tim pool
We should see a MAGA 2020 right next to every Black Lives Matter.
lydia smith
Oh, for sure, yeah.
Balance.
tim pool
Or at least All Lives Matter or something.
But then you know what's gonna happen?
Violence.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
People are going to start fighting.
adam crigler
Well, hey, newsflash.
There's already violence all over the place.
People are getting shot every single day right now.
They're already shooting each other.
This is happening right now.
Riots have been going on nonstop for almost two months.
lydia smith
This makes me super mad about New York City because the fact that they assigned 27 cops to guard this... Where's 27?
unidentified
27.
Yeah.
adam crigler
No, New York is crazy.
Not only that, they're actively telling people, look, stop calling us for people doing fireworks.
Go ask them yourself to stop.
tim pool
And then someone got shot.
adam crigler
Did you hear?
Yeah, a 33-year-old woman went out and said, look, please, please stop.
And they were like, all right, all right, went over, got a gun and killed her.
New York is a cesspool.
What are you doing, de Blasio?
What are you doing?
tim pool
He's insane.
adam crigler
It's a shame.
tim pool
Yeah, dude.
adam crigler
He should be ashamed of himself.
tim pool
I hope, I have a dream, that one day I wake up and across this country are just weird nonsensical speech statements that I don't understand, like Magoya.
lydia smith
That's a great dream.
tim pool
People are going to be like, what's Magoya?
lydia smith
It doesn't matter.
tim pool
It's a combination of Maga and Goya.
adam crigler
Yeah, Magoya.
Make America Goya again.
tim pool
Could you imagine how confused people are going to be when one day they wake up and their Black Lives Matter mural is now sitting next to Magoya 2020 and they're like, what?
unidentified
And they're going to Google it trying to figure out what it means.
lydia smith
No one knows.
tim pool
Ko-fi-fi.
Yeah, Ko-fi-fi.
adam crigler
That'd be great.
Ko-fi-fi.
2020.
unidentified
New mural.
adam crigler
Ko-fi-fi.
tim pool
That'd be awesome.
It's about literally you being able to write.
I'm cool.
Jim was here.
Eat at Joe's.
The best steak in town.
adam crigler
Whatever it is.
Whatever you want.
The streets are the new forum.
tim pool
On a canvas.
And the city will pay for it.
lydia smith
That's right.
And they'll pay to guard it.
tim pool
And they'll pay to guard it.
lydia smith
Even as their city falls apart.
tim pool
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
This might be the way to actually solve the crime.
If we write a message on every other block and have 27 cops guarding each one, there will be zero crime.
adam crigler
That's a lot of cops, man.
tim pool
A lot of petty, there'll be a lot of citations for like jaywalking and speeding, but that's probably like hundreds of thousands of police.
27 every other block in New York, as big as it is, it's probably hundreds of thousands.
adam crigler
Yeah it's crazy the number 27 cops because that's and I was reading about it's like that's more than any unit.
lydia smith
Yeah that blew my mind.
adam crigler
Like a crime unit.
There isn't there isn't a crime unit that has 27 police officers and they're already defund they're trying to defund the police but using 27 police officers to protect this mural.
lydia smith
Priorities man.
tim pool
Why I wonder I wonder why this is just the first time we've heard of it though.
This is the issue.
The left is organized, and so the city says, we'll give you whatever you want.
And the right isn't, so they don't.
adam crigler
Yeah, because they're too busy working.
They're too busy with their jobs, trying to figure their life out, because they're actually planning for the future.
It makes sense to me.
tim pool
Squeaky wheel gets the grease, man.
adam crigler
The people who don't want to work are like, yeah, how can we not work?
How can we figure that out?
It's like, come on.
Sorry, you got to work to survive in this world.
tim pool
Magoya-ya.
adam crigler
Magoya-ya.
Yes, I would love to see that.
tim pool
Make America Goya again.
The best thing about Goya is that it's a Hispanic company.
I think it's like the biggest Hispanic company in the country.
One of the biggest in the world.
And the left is targeting it and Trump supporters are the ones supporting it.
It's all tribal men.
adam crigler
Yeah, that boycott Goya didn't really work for them.
tim pool
It was a boycott.
adam crigler
Backfired.
What's that?
tim pool
A boycott.
adam crigler
Yeah, it turned into a boycott.
tim pool
People were saying their stock was going up.
I think they're a private company.
I don't think they have any stock or anything like that.
All right, let's do this.
We're gonna read Super Chats.
unidentified
Let's do it.
adam crigler
What up, everybody?
tim pool
How's it going, friends?
Let's peruse some here superchats.
Joe Radican says, Tim, if the presidential election were held today, who would you vote for?
Much love from Texas.
I would say in all likelihood Donald Trump.
And the only reason I say I'm not 100% confirmed is because we have several months.
For all I know, aliens show up, whatever.
lydia smith
But if it was today, it'd be him.
tim pool
Yeah, probably.
Well, I say probably.
I'm just saying probably.
Because... I don't know how else to say it.
But I think Afghanistan is the hammer on the nail.
Like, right now, there's no argument anyone could give to me that's like, he just tried to pull our troops out and they stopped him.
I'm gonna... I would like him to do that.
You know what I mean?
adam crigler
I would too.
lydia smith
Right, he's trying.
tim pool
Yeah, DCPagan says Splatoon timeline is best timeline.
Every street, insane nonsensical messages.
Think about how insane this will be when there's no more road arrows or traffic symbols on the street.
No more lines, no more lanes, just literally just weird.
I would like a giant unicorn that is farting rainbow bubbles.
Tell me no!
If you get Black Lives Matter, I get a farting unicorn.
lydia smith
That's only fair.
adam crigler
It's funny.
tim pool
It's only fair.
Daniel J. Korka says, thanks again, Adam, for doing the deep dive into the history of Donald Trump.
Maxwell didn't kill herself.
Spin the UFO.
adam crigler
I will, uh, everyone's been asking to.
I have the article, or I have the episode.
I just need to tweak some things.
So, but it'll be back.
Don't worry.
unidentified
Oh, it'll be back.
tim pool
George Wood says, absolutely love the rendition of Will of the People on Friday.
Can't wait for the studio version.
Still waiting on Lydia's SoundCloud rapping career, though.
lydia smith
Keep it up, guys.
tim pool
Love the show.
lydia smith
No one's supposed to know about that.
tim pool
You know what?
If you haven't already, make sure you smash the like button.
lydia smith
Yes!
tim pool
Yeah.
Now we've gotten away a lot more away from the more serious, terrifying stories.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
We can be more silly about smashing that like button.
And don't forget to smash the subscribe button if you haven't, because I believe there's 44, 43 or so thousand people watching right now who could all smash all those buttons.
And if each and every one of you smash that like button, YouTube would probably put us at number one and tell everyone to watch the show.
And if you think that's a good thing, do it.
adam crigler
I think it's a good thing.
lydia smith
I think it's a great thing.
tim pool
I do.
lydia smith
The best thing.
tim pool
There is a backup and it is on my computer.
So it will be... I'm going to upload it soon-ish.
Adam, I was 20 minutes into your deep dive and it was taken down. Is there a backup?
Consider bit shoot automatic backup may be good work guys.
adam crigler
There is a backup and it is on my computer. So it will be, I'm going to upload it soon-ish.
I am working on it currently.
tim pool
Student of History says, petition to rename the Great Depression to the Big Sad.
Also, FDR thinking it was a good idea to sick the economy on the economy to fix the economy.
lydia smith
Seriously, what was he thinking?
tim pool
Alright, let's see.
Ooh, what's this?
Natto says, Adam, how did you like the Lagavulin Scotch?
adam crigler
Oh, it was delicious.
It was delicious.
I felt like Ron Swanson.
I think my mustache grew out a little bit.
I was like, oh, hey, I woke up and it was just, you know, a little bit thicker.
I was like, oh nice.
tim pool
Oh.
Graff Von Tirol says, so not only does Fauci support paralyzing the entire country just
to protect grandpa, apparently he supports killing grandpa.
You know what my favorite thing is?
adam crigler
Oh man, this guy.
tim pool
Do you know who Cameron Kasky is?
adam crigler
Sounds familiar.
tim pool
He was one of the kids from the Parkland shooting who, you know, he was like profiled and he became an activist, started speaking up about gun rights and stuff, gun control.
He tweeted out something like, I think he said, I'm not a doctor, like novice or otherwise, but I'm pretty sure New York is not an example of doing it right when it comes to coronavirus.
I'm paraphrasing.
I thought it was funny because he's more of an anti-Trump person, but he's completely right.
And I saw that and I'm like, yes sir, thank you.
Fauci said New York did it right.
unidentified
What?
lydia smith
I'm not kidding.
adam crigler
When did he say that?
tim pool
A couple days ago.
adam crigler
Oh my goodness.
I have way too much to say about that right now.
tim pool
Listen, hold on.
Cuomo, personally, Ordered sick people into nursing homes.
Yep.
6,500 people are estimated to have died because of him.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
The economy is in shambles with 1 million unemployed in New York City.
Not improving.
The rest of the country is improving.
The New York Times says New York is not.
adam crigler
They're still getting killed.
Half a million.
tim pool
Half a million.
adam crigler
People are still getting shot.
tim pool
Crime is skyrocketing, half a million people have fled the city, and Fauci said, that's how you do it right.
Heaven forbid if Fauci's plan hits the rest of where we live.
adam crigler
No thank you.
360% increase in crime in New York City.
Dude.
360% rise.
And then de Blasio comes out going, well we have the lowest amount of prisoners in our prison systems.
Let me brush my shoulders off.
tim pool
Not brush my shoulders, let me unlock this gate here.
The number is actually going down as we speak.
adam crigler
I'm so happy I do not live in New York anymore.
tim pool
That's one of the reasons I got out.
I think of the early 2000s, years of my life where there were greater relative amounts of free society besides the Patriot Act.
It felt right to resist government then.
I find the system I wanted to resist, I want to defend now.
Well, I am not happy with a lot of the stupid BS that has emerged over the past several decades that give this extreme executive authority.
By the way, that was Obama.
That was Obama.
or rock obama signing the nda a indefinite detention provision which
would allow federal authorities to kidnap you in the middle of night bring
you to an offshore oil rig and rendition you and donald trump asking federal police to arrest someone
who threw explosive at their building
adam crigler
alone yes i think by the way that was obama that was obama yeah he did that yeah so
tim pool
that's way worse A lot of these progressives were warning of this.
They said, you support Obama now, but everything he's creating will one day be in the hands of someone you hate, and then here we are.
But again, let's be real.
When a DHS guy has a police patch on his chest, and DHS on his arm, and he walks up and says, come with us, and you go, but who are these strange men kidnapping me?
You must be blind.
You must be not like, what?
They're cops.
adam crigler
Yeah, Newsflash, we were joking when we said they were being black bagged.
We read the article.
The guy got out 90 minutes later.
He wasn't even in very long.
90 minutes inside and then be let out?
No charges?
tim pool
Now listen, hold on.
I would very much prefer it if they had badges.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
With badge numbers.
And I do not like the fact that they're just wearing patches.
But to act like you don't know what's going on.
You engage in a riot, don't be surprised when federal agents come and grab you.
What if they were wearing suits?
adam crigler
That's exactly what they wanted, though.
Those people that were filming were like, yeah, this is the ammo we need to totally prove that these guys are terrible people.
tim pool
What if they were FBI agents wearing suits, and they walked up and said, come on, and they put them into a black, unmarked SUV?
When I was in Chicago in 2012, and we had a mixture of police vehicles and black, unmarked SUVs surround us, we didn't immediately get out and go, who are these strange men who have surrounded us with weapons?
I was like, oh, look, police.
That was it.
lydia smith
You're smart, I think.
tim pool
Yeah.
These people are lying.
They're full of it.
It's the name of the game, man.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Grant Thompson says, Trump was never on the plane.
He ended any relation with Epstein after they had a dispute about property.
The Bill Clinton itinerary is extensive, however.
People have been asking about a connection with the... I can't say that person's name.
Yeah, so there you go.
adam crigler
Yeah, you mentioned it earlier and I was like, I didn't read anything about him being on any of the flights.
tim pool
Yeah, so I'll have to issue a correction on that.
I was not aware.
Yeah, I made an assumption that was probably incorrect.
I will assume that is incorrect.
I only say that because I don't have any sources other than people telling me that's not true.
adam crigler
This is an important super chat here.
Chronos Gaming says, Adam, your hair is fantastic.
lydia smith
Very important super chat.
Agreed.
tim pool
Kuro Teran says, as an expat working in Afghanistan, there are so many Afghanis that fear a coalition
withdrawal because they wouldn't be able to flee and would be subject to reprisals in
the Taliban's return.
I hear that.
I understand it.
But America should never have been there.
America shouldn't be there now.
We are not the world police.
adam crigler
No, we're not.
tim pool
What do you do?
What do you do?
I don't know, man.
But I do not believe it is our responsibility, and I don't believe it should be our burden.
I agree.
But I will tell you this.
I do think it is fair to point out it was our fault for going there in the first place, and now we have a responsibility to a certain degree.
But I think it was Ron Paul.
I think he was referring to the war.
He said, when you're a doctor, and you prescribe someone a medication that turns out to be wrong, you don't just go, well, I guess you're on it, you might as well stay on it.
You immediately get them off that medication, say that was a bad idea, and getting them off may cause problems, they might get sick, and it may make things worse, but you can't just keep it going.
lydia smith
You might have to taper it, but you have to stop.
tim pool
Yeah, because we've created an addiction.
So now we leave.
And maybe, you know what the good thing is?
Maybe Trump saying, I'm out, will get them all being like, oh, we better secure our own defenses and everything now.
We'll figure it out.
But I don't like the idea that we have problems here and the left is screaming Donald Trump is doing it bad.
And we have our troops over in the Middle East.
I'm sorry, man.
I can't see through that.
adam crigler
And everyone's great.
This is one thing that bugs me.
I've been told not to say anything because I'm not a professional or I'm not a doctor because I'm questioning specific things about a certain something that's happening right now in the world.
Like, look at the person who's talking to me, and they're just like a coffee... Barista?
tim pool
Yeah, a barista, and it's like... Now, now, hold on!
adam crigler
Who are you?
tim pool
They can draw a mad squirrel.
lydia smith
They can.
adam crigler
Yeah, sure.
tim pool
A crazy-looking squirrel with cream.
adam crigler
But that does not... I mean, I have done hundreds of hours of research knowing about all this stuff, so I can sit here and have a conversation with you about everything that's going on and know what's happening.
And it's like, for you to tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about and then also scream at the top of your lungs that now we should be in Afghanistan?
tim pool
That blows my mind.
adam crigler
Wait, but you're an expert now in suddenly what's going on in foreign affairs?
yeah get out of here how insane get out here it's insanity these people they
want to pick and choose their battles and it's like no you don't get to pick
and choose you either have the entire war with me and I'll go toe-to-toe with
you or or shut up get out of here stop asserting your you know trying
Trying to assert your dominance.
Well, it doesn't work with me.
tim pool
This reminds me of when I was at Occupy Wall Street and I was talking to this group of people and this one white guy goes, well, you think... I was basically talking about meritocracy and stuff and equality.
He goes, you think that, though, because you're white and your privilege stops you from understanding what these people are going through.
And I was like, no, actually, I'm second generation mixed race.
And then he goes, Oh, now I see what you're saying.
Yeah.
And I was like, uh-huh, you do.
No, you're just pandering because you're a white supremacist.
You are a leftist racist.
That's what they do.
And so basically, they have no principles.
Their political statements are based on whatever they think is socially acceptable.
So when this guy was standing in front of a bunch of people saying, you don't understand your privilege, but it turned out he was talking to a marginalized person, All of a sudden he was like, oh no, my social standing, whatever shall I do?
lydia smith
Doesn't that make them grifters?
tim pool
Yes.
lydia smith
By definition.
tim pool
And so when it comes to Donald Trump, and they're marching in the streets saying, no blood for oil, and they're like banging on windows.
And then Donald Trump gets up and he goes, we're pulling the troops out.
The best troop withdrawal.
Everybody agrees.
And they go, they look at their sign and they're like, uh, and they take a barker and they put like, keep our troops in Afghanistan.
unidentified
Keep our troops!
tim pool
blood for oil.
Ah, they're smashing things again.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Oh man.
lydia smith
There's only a pause.
tim pool
MH says, you want to talk about a conspiracy theory?
Snopes has the idea that Black Lives Matter has a board member who is a convicted terrorist
is mixture because no one has a shared definition of terrorism.
That's Snopes for you.
Terrorism has a very clear definition.
And they were like, it's funny because it says, whether or not having hundreds of pounds of explosives is considered to be a, you know, it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
lydia smith
Let me stop you there.
tim pool
No, I'm not arguing about that one.
adam crigler
Yeah, someone was arguing with me that they'd never found pipe bomb stuff.
And I was like, okay, how do you know that?
Because I saw them.
I saw them in custody.
They were showing them and it's like, so I saw it.
Where are you getting your information from?
tim pool
Well, apparently they arrested one guy with a gun too.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Yeah.
I don't know how much I trust police and law enforcement or the government, but right now you earn no favors from me far left when you purposefully go to this place and throw explosives at the building.
adam crigler
That's correct.
tim pool
As soon as, look, if I go, if I went to a protest and they were like, Hey, we're going to go protest the federal government because they're, you know, like oppressors.
And I was like, okay.
The moment someone went, welcome to the protest.
I'd be like, bye-bye, I'm out.
I'm not okay with this.
adam crigler
That goes from protest to riot very quickly.
tim pool
Well, insurrection.
I mean, throwing up an explosive is a bit beyond just a riot.
adam crigler
Yeah, good point.
tim pool
A riot is like people who are just like doing dumb things and smashing stuff, but coming with weapons and bombs.
lydia smith
That's another level.
tim pool
And then I don't know what you'd call it when a woman strips naked and then spreads her legs in the street.
lydia smith
I don't even know what that is.
tim pool
Yeah, me neither.
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
Congratulations.
She got press attention.
lydia smith
Yeah, she sure did.
She's a hero.
adam crigler
I'm just gonna really quickly just want to say thanks.
Can I get my... Do I have a close-up?
Only Tim has access.
tim pool
No, you do.
adam crigler
I do?
Yeah, I think I do.
Oh, here we go.
So check this out.
This is coronavirus coffee.
And someone actually posted this on one of my... I don't remember what it was, but...
unidentified
They were like, oh yeah, like check this coffee I got.
adam crigler
And they sent me it.
They went to the coffee truck that they got it and there was one left.
And they send it, it says, let's see, coronavirus coffee, estimated 2020, CNN and MSNBC say it sucks.
It is a bag of BS, I can't say that, but it says it's killer coffee.
lydia smith
Oh boy, I'm scared.
tim pool
It's real coffee though, right?
adam crigler
No, it is.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
adam crigler
Smells good.
tim pool
You should make some.
adam crigler
Smells good.
It's actually whole bean.
So I'll have to go get a coffee grinder.
It's called the blend for the end.
unidentified
Perfect.
adam crigler
And that was Bavitas.
So thank you.
Thank you for sending that to me.
I really appreciate you.
That's great.
tim pool
CatXDragon says, where is the video to prove this?
A gunman wearing a FedEx driver's uniform on Sunday killed the son and wounded the husband of a federal judge linked to... I'm assuming you mean Epstein.
I am for real.
Did I miss something?
I call shenanigans.
Yes, we talked about it in great detail.
That's literally what's being reported by ABC and the FBI.
This is real life, apparently, you know?
lydia smith
This is 2020, guys.
tim pool
Hey, look, I said this before, that we are, I was like, I had this really cool idea for, like, a short film or something.
Like, what would it be like to be an ancillary character, or, like, an NPC that's not involved with the main quest line of a video game?
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So, like, right now, whoever, whatever the simulation or video game or storyline is, we have nothing to do with the actual main storyline.
We are a weird side quest that has nothing to do with anything.
adam crigler
Not in my story, Tim.
tim pool
So here's what's happening right now.
down. We are we are waste.
Was it was it was on radio.
I was called the fall three wasteland radio.
adam crigler
Appalachian radio.
I think it's called.
tim pool
So here's what's happening right now. There's some secret agent
who is like tracking down the cabal and it's some like super
action packed movie.
We are in the movie or game for only a few minutes as he's
like searching YouTube on his phone and then he sees the show.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And it's just like a passive, ancillary character thing that's not really involved, and you could choose to listen or not.
And that's what we are.
Because right now somebody knows what's going on with this weird FedEx assassin guy.
adam crigler
Oh, definitely.
tim pool
And we like only get a glimpse of it, but someone's living that crazy, crazy story.
lydia smith
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
Here we go.
Super Bam Bam says Broward County, Florida has issued an emergency order mandating that citizens wear masks inside their homes now.
lydia smith
Are you serious?
tim pool
And what are you going to do to enforce that?
Are you going to come to my house, knock on the door, and be like, where's your mask?
adam crigler
Yeah, what?
Inside your own home now?
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
What?
adam crigler
That doesn't make any sense.
tim pool
And we had a couple put on house arrest?
What?
Yeah, dude.
adam crigler
This is insane.
That's in Florida also?
lydia smith
Was that Florida?
No, that one was Tennessee.
adam crigler
No, Alabama?
tim pool
Kentucky?
lydia smith
Let me check.
adam crigler
Might have been Kentucky.
lydia smith
Just keep naming states.
unidentified
Oh, I have no idea.
tim pool
The Grizzly says, Hey Tim, have you heard about some stupid news?
Far leftists on Twitter are calling the Japanese fascists because Japanese critics like to game about their history.
Only it was made by evil white people in San Diego, California.
Well, that proves it.
Fenrir the Wolf says, yo Beanie Crew, long time viewer lurker.
Just wanted to say keep up the fantastic work.
Excited to watch your continued growth.
Well deserved.
Great Trump deep dive Adam.
Looking forward to more AdamCast episodes.
adam crigler
Thank you very much.
tim pool
Wunderbar.
adam crigler
Thank you.
And that episode will be back soon.
tim pool
If you haven't already, make sure you smash the like button, smash the subscribe button, smash the notification bell.
You can follow me on Twitter, at TimCast, on Parler and Instagram as well.
You can follow Adam on all the same platforms, at AdamKrigler, and of course, at SourPatchLids, L-Y-D-S, on Twitter and Parler.
So what, did you find out where it was?
That was Louisville, Kentucky.
unidentified
Oh, I got it!
tim pool
Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding Wait, there we go.
Somebody, somebody injured Joe.
Somebody injured him.
adam crigler
Whoa.
What happened to him?
tim pool
Look at this.
Oh no.
What is this?
lydia smith
Was that a kid he stepped on it?
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
Oh yeah.
tim pool
Yep.
lydia smith
Oh man.
adam crigler
You know, I can't say I'm upset about it.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
I mean, it's our, it's our mock Joe Biden.
adam crigler
We got, we got some fun out of him.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Oh, I gotta turn that on.
unidentified
You're a lying dog-faced pony soldier.
adam crigler
Oh, did they not do it to you?
Well, excuse me.
unidentified
You're a lying dog-faced pony soldier.
adam crigler
You can't overdo it, Tim.
tim pool
We need more from Joe.
adam crigler
I need some Trump ones.
Mine's coming in the mail.
We don't have it yet.
tim pool
It should be here soon.
Well, it might be here in a few days.
adam crigler
Yeah, who knows?
It's gonna be fun.
I'm excited about it.
tim pool
You're a lying dog-faced pony soldier.
Apparently, that's not even a real thing.
Like, he claimed it was from a show.
It wasn't.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
He just, like, made it up.
adam crigler
Yeah, there was, like... He claimed it was from a show?
tim pool
There were pony soldiers from some show, but lion-dog-faced pony soldier was, like, not a thing.
adam crigler
Right.
And people were, like... Well, I mean, he has been known to plagiarize in the past, so who knows?
lydia smith
That is true, too.
Yeah, we can't forget that.
tim pool
Oh, it's interesting.
Yeah, uh, Big Thicky says, Yangtze River flooding basically the entire North China Plain.
Three Gorges Dam is only 11 meters from breaching.
adam crigler
Whoa, that's, that's, there's like 400 million people.
tim pool
400 million?
adam crigler
400 million people that live below that dam.
tim pool
What's causing its overflow?
lydia smith
Poor planning.
Made in China.
Made in China?
tim pool
Everything is spicy.
Every structure there is literally hot.
lydia smith
I've been sitting on that joke for a long time.
tim pool
It's literally in China.
adam crigler
Oh my goodness.
She's not wrong.
lydia smith
I'm not wrong, okay.
adam crigler
Honestly, I don't know.
There's some people on Twitter that have been sending me updates constantly about that.
We'll track it.
tim pool
Thank you.
Now here's Brewmaster Monk says, you guys seem like the main characters from where I am
sitting.
Also, you guys give me hope that you can improve your economic class
without abandoning your principles.
Thanks. It's true. Thank you.
But I got to say, from where I'm sitting, it sounds like you're the main character
because we're just Wasteland Radio to you. That's right.
You're the one running around and like not really moving, but still pretending like you're running like a video.
You know what I mean?
lydia smith
Running into the wall.
tim pool
Yeah, you're running into the wall while you're still running.
That's you!
Not us.
We're just sitting here jabbering.
lydia smith
That's us.
adam crigler
Nah, I guess thieves.
tim pool
No one here is fighting a dragon.
We're not jumping 20 feet in the air and thrusting the sword into the belly of the giant demon lord.
adam crigler
You are what you believe you are, I guess.
tim pool
Unless, like, we're playing some kind of weird, like, futuristic prappa-the-rappa, where you gotta, like, type in words really fast to make the hosts talk about stuff.
You're like, oh man, circle, circle, square, enter, go!
lydia smith
This makes sense.
tim pool
Tim just went on a rant about Donald Trump.
Oh, oh, Adam, lay him up!
Then they mash keys and then Adam goes on a rant.
lydia smith
That could be us, yeah.
tim pool
War Tortoise says, hey guys, buy a bag of Black Rifle coffee.
Some of the proceeds go to for 2A rights.
lydia smith
Funny you mention that.
adam crigler
That's my line.
lydia smith
No, I was so excited.
adam crigler
That's my coffee.
You shut your mouth.
I just ordered some and I just got it.
Look at this.
Yeah, that's right.
You see what coffee I'm holding up.
lydia smith
That's right.
adam crigler
Sniff that.
I don't regret anything.
I support our officers.
tim pool
Dude, that 4th of July video that did was amazing.
adam crigler
Man, these coffees smell good.
tim pool
Hold on, man.
You know what the issue is?
adam crigler
I'm excited about this one, too.
Wait, where's the Biden?
Biden needs to get a little sniff.
He's ready to sniff that coffee.
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Why is it that the right is having so much fun?
That's the real issue.
You watch a video from Black Rifle Coffee and they're shooting the national anthem.
Yep.
lydia smith
Seriously.
tim pool
That's amazing.
adam crigler
That was awesome.
If you have not seen this video, do yourself a favor, go check it out.
It's awesome.
But seriously, look at- It's so American.
tim pool
Look at that video, and you're gonna have a good time, you're gonna laugh.
Look at Sean Parnell.
He's a Republican congressman running in Pennsylvania, in the Pittsburgh area.
Look at his commercial, his fundraising commercial.
It was amazing.
It was good, but it was funny.
Why is it that the right is laughing and having a good time, and the left is like... Yeah, exactly, Buku.
adam crigler
Good timing.
lydia smith
Excellent timing.
adam crigler
I hope everyone heard that.
tim pool
I don't think they could hear it.
The comedic timing was on point.
I think if you boost the audio after the fact, they'll hear it.
So our cat just walked in and started screaming.
lydia smith
Because he's mad.
tim pool
He's like, what's everybody doing?
I'm waking up.
No, no, but my point stands.
Indeed.
It's been this way for a while.
The Donald memes are always funny and silly.
But then you look at what the left is doing and everything's just like anger.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
And not fun.
adam crigler
Well, they're addicted to the anger.
They live there and that's all they know.
tim pool
They're like the fire nation.
adam crigler
And it's sad, really.
It's sad.
We all want them to stop being so angry and look logically at what's happening and talk about it.
But they don't want to do that.
And we're all just going, well, I mean, we tried.
I'll just go eat my popcorn.
Yeah.
tim pool
That's what I was saying about Joe Biden earlier.
He's trying to bridge the gap between the liberals and the far left, but the gap is too big.
So now he's too far left for liberals, but too centrist for the far left.
adam crigler
That's right.
tim pool
So he's just nothing.
adam crigler
So he's, I mean, it's actually kind of perfect if you think about it.
He's kind of this lost, meandering old guy.
Politically?
Mentally?
Pretty much on all levels.
That's pretty much what he embodies.
tim pool
I look at these people who are progressive commentators on YouTube, and they do miserably.
They're doing well, they're probably all rich, but relative to moderate to conservative, politically homeless, intellectual dark web kind of people who might be progressive or conservative but are anti-SJW, all doing really, really well.
And I watch a lot of these videos and they really do just engage in a lot of sophistry.
They use manipulative false arguments.
They use fake news.
And they do something interesting.
I've noticed a lot of these commentators, first of all, they talk about people too much.
What I mean by that is each other.
Like, I'll talk about Congress.
I'll talk about a congressman doing a thing.
I'm talking about the government.
But they'll literally talk about YouTubers.
But they also do this thing where instead of researching, they just watch a video, and then instead of looking up the news and getting their facts straight, they just repeat what the story says and then complain.
adam crigler
Telephone.
Yep, telephone.
Just playing it.
tim pool
So the point I'm bringing up is that when I track the news and I see what's going on, this man is scary.
adam crigler
Yes he is.
tim pool
This man is very scary.
adam crigler
I agree with you 100%.
tim pool
He's gonna get us into the TPP in two seconds.
And the people who support him terrify me.
adam crigler
Yeah, and if you don't know, we talked about this on Saturday, me and Ian.
The TPP allows countries that sell us oil to sue us if we stop using oil.
Meaning we have to stay buying oil from them or they can sue us.
And that falls on our tax money.
So we would actually be looped in.
If you want to go green, Biden's not going to make that happen.
No, he's going to bring us back into the TPP.
And that that makes us liable to keep buying oil from other countries.
tim pool
None of it makes sense.
adam crigler
None of it makes sense.
tim pool
None of it does.
This guy's scary.
And I and, you know, Ted Cruz put this video where he said it's everything's really at stake.
It really is.
adam crigler
It really is.
I agree, man.
tim pool
Yeah, we and I think even if you're like the left is saying the exact same thing.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
So, civil war?
adam crigler
They're making it a war.
They're making people afraid to even talk about it.
it a war. They're making it so you they're making people afraid to even
talk about it you know it's like and I mean that's why I'm talking about it you
know I'm like people are upset with me just because I announced it on Facebook
And it's like, we can't have a political, I can't have a political conversation with my friends and family.
We can't talk about what, what I, why I'm, I'm voting for who I'm voting for.
Like, you're going to just disown me completely.
I'm like, all right, I gotta reevaluate who my friends are.
tim pool
If every single person who opposed the far-left insanity spoke up, there would be no conflict, no riots, no war.
Trump and the Republicans would win and it would be over.
Because the big corporations would stop doing what they're doing.
They would stop pandering.
They would start backing away, realizing that people are tired of it.
And it would fizzle out.
The police would do their job.
The police would get their funding.
The murals would be off the streets.
Everything would go back to the way it was 15, 20 years ago, with political bickering
between the Democrats and the Republicans, but the far left would be gone.
Instead, too many people are scared.
And the problem is, the less likely they are to speak up, the more emboldened the far left
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
And then the less likely they are to speak up.
adam crigler
Absolutely.
tim pool
So it's just getting worse because no one wants to stand up for themselves.
I shouldn't say no one, but a lot of people refuse to.
So we'll see what happens.
You know, one of the easiest things anyone can do to protest is literally just petition to write on the street.
For real.
You don't even gotta put MAGA.
You can literally just put, like, you know, um... Go Redskins.
Go Cowboys.
adam crigler
Whatever you want.
tim pool
I want the street to say, you know... I want every street to have something on them.
Sox World Series 2020 or whatever.
I don't think they're playing.
adam crigler
Or Cubs finally won.
After 109 years.
I mean, it was a couple years ago now.
tim pool
I would like a big street mural of the Cubs.
I want it all to be blue.
I want, you know, there to be a baseball bat and a jersey and some of the biggest players.
And I want them all to be drawn out.
lydia smith
That's very complex.
tim pool
And it's going to be there as long as the black eyes, it doesn't matter.
And they're going to pay for it.
lydia smith
You know what I want?
tim pool
Because complexity isn't an issue.
lydia smith
I want one word.
I want the word floorboat.
I want nothing else.
That's all I want.
And I don't care where it is, but it should be close to the BLM.
tim pool
Ladies and gentlemen.
adam crigler
Blackfire Knight, hold on.
Blackfire Knight did a $69 super chat.
I saw it and I was like, I gotta read this.
It's kind of cool.
Recently, I channeled my inner Nick Cage from the movie Knowing and added up my birthday year and month and got 2029, which so happens to have a meteor coming close to Earth.
Also, it's in the constellation Leo right now, and I'm a Leo.
Keep up the awesome work.
tim pool
Oh, very cool.
adam crigler
I like space stuff, so.
tim pool
We got a really big super chat from Fishinit Costa Rica.
Unfortunately, it's Canadian $500, so may as well be Monopoly.
I'm just kidding.
Thanks for the super chat, everybody.
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adam crigler
Well, it's on their screen though.
tim pool
Smash our like button.
lydia smith
Communism.
tim pool
Communism.
It really does help.
If you haven't, it really does help.
I guess, you know, that kind of interaction is good because it literally just says this video is good.
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lydia smith
A bunch of them, yeah.
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