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July 18, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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TimcastIRL - Trump And Feds Launch Counterinsurgency Against Antifa Says Leaked Documents
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adam crigler
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tim pool
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lydia smith
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joe biden
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tim pool
Tonight, leaked documents released to the nation reveal a coordinated program of domestic counterinsurgency against Antifa.
We can't afford real music, so we just gotta go... Joe Biden.
Yeah, apparently this program, it's called PACT or something.
It's a joint effort between federal agencies all over the country.
The documents that have been released by the nation come, the nation is, it's like a lefty publication.
So they're, they're very serious, like Donald Trump's Gestapo.
You know, that kind of attitude.
But it does show that there is a coordinated effort since the first, following the signing of Donald Trump's executive order to protect statues and all that stuff, to target far-left insurgency.
I mean, to be fair, I think the language of domestic counterinsurgency comes from the nation.
I think CBP and ICE and the marshals were just kind of like general law enforcement.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
But the left wants to make it really spicy, so they're saying Gestapo and counterinsurgency.
They call themselves revolutionaries.
Because that's what they're doing!
I mean, day 48 now of what's going on in Portland.
But we got some news, too.
Apparently there was a ton of arrests the other day.
They really are cracking down hard.
We could talk a lot about this.
We got some other stories, too.
We got... I'm kind of furious.
adam crigler
I don't blame you.
tim pool
I was getting really triggered earlier.
I wanted to title this episode, like, F the Media.
Just full on.
I did tweet about it.
adam crigler
I wouldn't have been upset.
tim pool
There's a story right now where Trump was on Fox News and he said to Chris Wallace, who's one of their anchors, one of their journalists, that Biden wants to defund the police.
And Wallace goes, no, sir, he does not.
And Trump's like, let's go get it.
They couldn't find the evidence in the Bernie Sanders pact.
And it's a stupid story anyway, because it's not like it has to be in writing.
In fact, it's in an interview.
Joe Biden says he does agree with redirecting their funding, which is the literal definition of what they've claimed defund is.
So I just debunked this.
Man, it is so difficult to understand what's happening in this country, because I can pull up like 50 stories.
AP, false.
Joe Biden does not want to defund the police.
Then you find another story.
It's like, true.
Joe Biden does want to defund the police.
So we're going to break this down definitively and you can just see it's going to be an excellent media literacy 101 course for everybody who doesn't understand how the media is lying to you.
And just before we started the show, Adam was talking about, you know, he's on Facebook trying to explain why he thinks Biden's in the bag for China.
And how do you prove it?
Because you've got 50 million out of context, deceptive, falsely framed stories Well, not even that.
adam crigler
All I said was, I posted about what's going on in China with the camps that we're finding out about or that we've known about for a long time.
They've been going on for a long time.
There was an article, I forget who I posted it from, but it's talking about how it's been going on for 20 years.
And I'm like, this is what's going on in China.
I like Trump because he's trying to cut out China from our lives and try to bring it back here.
And Biden wants to cozy up with them.
And people, of course, freaked out on that.
tim pool
And they're like, no, Trump's just saying that.
Can you prove it?
It's like the Obama administration was spearheading the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
OK, I can't read you every page and mention every country and the goals.
They claim their goals were noble.
The left wing activists really opposed this.
Biden was the vice president at the time.
I'd be really willing to bet that he would enter us into a free trade agreement with China, which would incentivize the moving of our factories back to China.
It's just that simple.
There are a lot more complexities to it.
But anyway, the point is, how are you supposed to explain this to regular people
when the media is just, oh, man, I'm going to show you this because I really want
to just I hate the media, man.
Me, too. And you know what?
I walk that back a little bit.
It's it's like they're on the ground sort of.
Like, at a ground level.
Like, they see a statement come out and they just write it and they walk away.
All good here, everybody!
That's the quote, and we're not gonna provide any context.
You know, the journalists are supposed to help you understand what's happening in the world.
Just taking a random string of words from somebody and not explaining what it means is ridiculous.
It's not journalism.
adam crigler
And it's not only that, it's a whole story that they write from that one sentence.
They take that out of it, and then they go, alright, well, how much can we elaborate on this?
tim pool
It's so much better.
Then they start pulling the tweets of random resistance Democrats on Twitter, and they make a, here's how everyone reacted to Trump saying he hates science, and then you have a bunch of people being like, yo, Trump's so dumb!
And it's like, oh no.
But it'll be fun.
It'll be fun.
And we got some other stuff, too.
We actually have the mainstream media waking up to the fact that woke social justice nonsense is literally racist.
I'm glad to see it.
New York Mag.
Of all people, a guy with raging Trump derangement syndrome is like, hey, wait a minute.
adam crigler
That's pretty racist.
tim pool
This woke stuff sounds like literal white supremacy.
I'm like, you just figured it out.
That's great.
adam crigler
I'm glad there's some wheels still working in there, buddy.
tim pool
You know what?
I wonder if it's politically expedient, though.
They try and wield this power of the far left to hurt Trump to cause chaos.
And then once it gets close to the election, they go, oh, now we understand why it's bad.
Now that it's hurting us.
adam crigler
That's what I said.
As soon as it starts hitting the elites, they're going to change their mind.
tim pool
Well, this is, these are the liberal elites.
They're signing this Harper's Harper's letter like, Oh no, don't cancel me.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
No, but I think they're hoping that Joe Biden gets elected and then they can get rid of the far left.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
That's what I was saying.
They're trying to wield that power thinking they can control it and they can't.
So they're going to try and cast in the fires of Mount Doom.
adam crigler
Biden's speech about bring back better or something.
And it's like, or buy America.
Is that what he said?
I don't know.
It's basically like he's trying to cater to the Trump fans.
And everyone's just like, who are you talking to right now?
tim pool
This face right here?
This is the face of the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
He's like, the second in command for the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
No, this guy's not gonna buy American.
unidentified
He's gonna get in and be like, look fat, we gotta have more factories in China!
tim pool
Your job, China.
Oh, what?
Which one?
Oh, I moved it.
adam crigler
His.
joe biden
You're a lying, dark-faced pony soldier.
adam crigler
I wanted to say it to you.
tim pool
Oh, you didn't.
adam crigler
I would have pressed that button.
tim pool
Well, you gotta, we gotta get ahead of this.
adam crigler
If I had the ability to press, I don't have my soundboard yet.
lydia smith
Forget it.
adam crigler
I'll have my soundboard soon.
It's gonna be fun.
tim pool
Ladies and gentlemen, it is imperative that you heed these words.
Smash the like button.
adam crigler
You better smash that like button.
tim pool
Smash it.
Smash it.
adam crigler
I took a break today, actually.
Well, I didn't.
I took a two-hour break.
tim pool
A two-hour break?
adam crigler
That was my break.
Well, we didn't go skating today, and I was like, I'm just going to go for a drive.
I'm going to go for a drive and listen to some music.
tim pool
Oh, is that what you did?
We were like, Adam's gone.
adam crigler
I just went for a drive.
I was just like, yeah, this is nice.
Not thinking.
Oh man, but it was good.
It felt good.
I got myself some nice whiskey, actually.
Quality whiskey.
I had to drive quite far for it.
tim pool
Really?
adam crigler
This is the Ron Swanson of whiskey.
tim pool
It's the Ron Swanson of whiskey.
adam crigler
What is it?
Lagavulin.
Those who watch Parks and Rec will know what that is.
I haven't tried it yet.
I've never tried it, but I popped it open, took a smell.
Wow, it smells good.
It's very up my alley.
I'm very excited to try that later on tonight before we jam.
tim pool
Yes, that's right.
We're gonna, uh, make sure you subscribe, hit the notification bell, hit that like button, get in your super chats if you'd like.
We try to read as many as we can, but we certainly can't read everybody.
But, uh, after the show tonight, so around 10, we're gonna jam out.
We just, it's Friday night.
So, you know, we're all- Friday night jams.
We're all still kind of sort of locked down and they're probably gonna lock it down again.
So you can't go anywhere.
So you might as well just sit here and listen to us play music after the show.
adam crigler
Yeah, so we're here to provide more entertainment after the news.
After the depression.
tim pool
After the depression.
Our show is The Great Depression.
Let's read this story!
adam crigler
No, we're smashing through The Great Depression.
tim pool
Smash that like button.
Check this out.
We got the story from The Nation.
Border Patrol responsible for Portland arrest.
An internal memo obtained exclusively by The Nation details a coordinated program of domestic counterinsurgency.
Man, that sounds cool.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
That sounds so cool.
When in reality- They nailed that.
Let me decontextualize that.
Re-contextualize it.
Federal officers are going to arrest whiny, progressive, upper middle class kids.
adam crigler
That are throwing bricks at federal buildings.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
And trying to light it on fire.
tim pool
I think the reason they write it that way, and I'm more than happy to use the language, is because it sounds fun and exciting!
Now granted, these guys are nuts.
They're trying to bash people over the head with hammers, so... Yeah.
Yeah, I think it's fair to say... Like, I think what's interesting about the framing of it is that it's positive for the federal law enforcement.
To literally call Antifa insurgency justifies what the feds are doing.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
Yeah, it's kind of interesting.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's read a little bit, and I'll just show you the straight documents.
But more importantly, look at this image.
This is cool.
It's like, what is this?
Is that an actual photo?
adam crigler
I mean, what I see, before we even get into it, reading that title, you know what I think most people are thinking?
unidentified
Cool.
adam crigler
Finally.
Yes.
Awesome.
End it.
Please.
Stop this.
tim pool
It's a massive PR weapon for them.
They are milking this to the most absurd degree.
It's exactly the trap that was described.
And now we're seeing all the Democrats, from mayors, senators, all the resistance people.
Like, dude, these videos out of Portland probably have a collective 15 plus million views.
Yeah, it's going crazy.
adam crigler
Of which side, though?
Of Antifa destroying stuff?
tim pool
Antifa being the good guys.
adam crigler
Being the good guy, exactly.
tim pool
Being victimized and oppressed.
adam crigler
Pushing that out.
tim pool
Yeah, that's bad.
That's very, very bad for Trump and law enforcement, because they're going to use this.
And so a lot of people have said, like, what should the feds do?
Should they back off?
Tough call.
But you know what I'm gonna say?
If the feds keep cleaning up the mess for these Democrat city mayors, then these people in the cities will keep voting for them.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
It's like when you have a kid having a temper tantrum, and the parent just keeps giving them whatever they want, the kid's never gonna stop.
So these people come out, they destroy the city, they start romping about starting fires, tearing down statues, and the Portland government goes, we're out.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
It's all you, bye.
And then what happens?
The federal law enforcement says, okay, I guess we're gonna have to arrest these guys.
Occupying army.
Let's read a little bit.
The nation, right, so mind you, the nation is very left biased.
Very important to understand, but they're the only one.
This is their exclusive, you know, document release.
So let's see how they frame things.
They say, for days, federal agents in unmarked cars have reportedly been snatching Portland protesters
off the streets.
That's right, snatching Portland protesters.
adam crigler
Already, already.
tim pool
We just gotta fix it.
They're detaining rioters.
I'm not trying to be biased against anybody.
They're literally people wearing masks and helmets, throwing things at cops.
adam crigler
And trying to light fires.
tim pool
Literally lighting fires.
adam crigler
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, they are lighting fires.
Right.
Exactly.
tim pool
Protesters.
Oh, man.
But I'm telling you, man, when these videos go viral and you don't see any of that and you just see a dude putting his hands up and they're like, look at these peaceful protesters being being, you know, black bagged by unmarked Gestapo.
Regular people see them like, whoa, because they don't know what happened.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
I got some crazy for you guys, though.
We got we got to talk about this.
Some people, so here's the context, right?
They mention that the federal agents are, you know, snatching up these protesters, because a video went viral, a couple of them, where a van pulls up, some guys jump out, and they're wearing, like, DHS patches and police, but they're in, like, full camo, and they walk up, and a guy puts his hand up, hands up, and this woman's like, use your words, use your words!
The feds grab the guy, bring him in the van, take him away.
According to one of these stories, one of these guys, it might be the same guy, not sure, was questioned for about an hour and a half before he was released.
I didn't realize this.
I should have realized this.
It's my fault.
A lot of people are saying they were snatching up an informant.
That's why they weren't actually arrested.
During Occupy Wall Street, there was somebody that most people, I would say, bordering on almost confirmed, there was somebody that everybody was like, we have reason to believe this person is a confidential informant for the police.
For a variety of reasons.
I'm gonna keep it private because I don't want anybody to, you know, bring this person up.
But I remember one time, when I was at Occupy, I was getting off a train a few blocks away, and I watched, I saw the dude standing on the corner, and then the squad car next to him, two cops just grabbed him, and he's like, no, no, what, what?
And they arrested him.
And I was like, whoa.
I just watched this dude get arrested.
For what?
So I go to the park, and I'm like, yo, I just saw this guy get arrested.
And they're like, yeah, so did we.
And I was like, you did?
Because I was just three blocks away.
No, right here.
Wait a minute.
And so what apparently happened was they arrested him.
They arrested him?
adam crigler
In front of everybody.
tim pool
In front of everybody.
And then when they were dropping, like, they drove him around, asked him, like, what's going on?
What are you doing?
And then when they were going to drop him off is when I walked up and I was like, hey, and then they grabbed him again, like, oh, like, he recognized him.
And so apparently after the fact, people were like, hey, we heard you got arrested.
Yeah, I was.
No, no, we heard you got arrested twice in like 20 minutes.
No, I don't know what you're talking about.
So when this story comes out, where you see a guy walking in the street, and the cops jump out and carry him to the car, and he's like, whoa, whoa, oh no!
Oh no, they got me!
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
That way they can bring him in, and he can say, alright, here's what they're doing, here's what they said, here's what I heard from these people, and they're like, alright man, good job, buddy.
Good, you know, good job, officer.
adam crigler
Officer so-and-so, yeah.
tim pool
And then he's like, I'm gonna go back out there, we'll just, you know, you guys detained me, I'll complain.
adam crigler
Use your words!
We love you!
tim pool
So that could be.
It could be a plant.
It could be, you know, informant.
Keep that in mind.
We don't know for sure though, but this kind of distrust among these far leftists is, it runs deep.
The reason these rumors are popping up is because they're the ones probably saying it.
Why weren't you charged with any crimes?
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Why were you brought in and cut loose?
All of us got arrested and the cops know this and they could pull people in specifically for this reason, sowing distrust.
adam crigler
Well, I don't know.
At the same time, we got the guy who punched the police chief in New York City and was released with no bail.
tim pool
Well, I think that's bail reform.
adam crigler
That's so insane, dude.
tim pool
He punched the guy in the face.
adam crigler
Like, what?
I don't understand.
I don't get it.
tim pool
Hey, 2020's been fun, huh?
Yeah.
Well, check this out.
Let me just pull up the actual documents.
So these are apparently leaked to the nation.
And I gotta admit, upon looking at them, it's quite boring.
It does not paint this picture of an action movie counterinsurgency.
It's literally them being like, Donald Trump has signed an executive order to protect statues and federal facilities.
We'll be deploying law enforcement to protect federal facilities.
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
It's literally like... Exactly as he said.
tim pool
But not even that.
It's like, police officers, go police.
adam crigler
There you go.
tim pool
And they're like, Trump has launched a counterinsurgency.
And like, they really view themselves as insurrectionists, like revolutionaries.
lydia smith
Remember, they're the resistance.
tim pool
I know.
lydia smith
I'm so cringy.
tim pool
I'm so, I'm so deeply offended by them calling themselves the resistance.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like this, you know, 50 year old, five foot four fat balding dude who thinks he's a resistance warrior because he sits on the computer and complains about Trump all day.
Like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
adam crigler
In his air conditioning basement.
tim pool
The dudes that were, like, planting bombs to take out Nazis were the resistance.
You're some dude sitting in his room complaining that the Orange Man is bad again.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Or, posting about this.
Check this out.
Public Affairs Guidance.
CBP support to protect federal facilities and property.
They say, on June 26, the President issued an executive order protecting American monuments,
memorials, and statues and combating recent criminal activity.
In this order, the President directed that DHS shall provide as appropriate and consistent
with applicable law personnel to assist with the protection of federal monuments, memorials,
statues, or property.
In furtherance of that directive, the acting Secretary of Homeland Security has formalized
the DHS Protecting American Communities Task Force, PACT, to provide an ongoing assessment
of potential civil unrest and property destruction and to address internal resource allocation
and potential surge activity to ensure the continuing protection of people and property.
Additionally, with the consent of other departments and agencies, DHS has determined that it is in the public interest and fiscally sound for the Federal Protective Service to partner with other federal law enforcement to execute the direction of the President.
To that end, DHS began coordination with the Department of Justice and the Department of the Interior to establish information intelligence sharing and resource coordination as outlined in the order.
CBP will be supporting this effort by deploying personnel to provide support over the July 4th holiday weekend, which has the potential for increased disruptive activity at specific locations across the country that could threaten our personnel and the federal facilities and property they protect.
That's basically it.
And then it names, you know, the executive order and their statements and what they're going to do and some questions.
What is CBP's role?
Blah, blah, blah.
adam crigler
It feels like standard procedure.
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So there's some documents got released saying, hey, we're going to enforce the law.
We're going to, you know, talk to people and go out and make sure people aren't, you know, breaking stuff.
adam crigler
Oh my gosh, Tim!
unidentified
It's the end of the world as we know it.
tim pool
But I'm loving the propaganda stuff they're pumping out.
adam crigler
Totally.
tim pool
There's like a thread that's got 10,000 retweets and it's this like white progressive, you know, far-left activist claiming that it is a really colorful depiction of Portland.
And I gotta admit, this thread, it sounds awesome.
It sounds great.
It like makes it seem like Portland has escaped from LA or like escaped from New York.
They're like, for the past four weeks, Trump's federal army has been storming the streets, throwing, snatching people up and black bagging them, barricading parks, taking over buildings.
It is a nightmare here.
You have no idea they're gassing civilians and it's like, wow.
It's like, it really sounds like you're like watching some crazy, you know, you're gonna go to Portland and it's a bunch of whiny 20-somethings who are like, F the police, man!
You're so dumb!
You don't even do anything!
And then the cops just like, you know.
I mean, it's a riot.
You know, so people are throwing bricks, starting fires, cops are firing tear gas and all that stuff.
But it's just, Man, it's not a revolution.
You want to see insurrection?
Look, I'll give it to these kids.
I say kids, but some of these people are pretty old.
So I'll give it to them that they certainly got anger and conviction.
They're going to go out and do their thing.
I can respect the demands, but I think they're insane regardless.
But you want to watch real, you know, like real, like watch the Ukraine stuff from the Euromaidan.
I don't even know what you'd call it.
It wasn't a riot because they had barricades.
They had built massive walls defending.
It was like civil war almost.
I guess they called it, I don't know what you'd call it.
I have no idea how you describe it.
But in this area, There's one video where, like, a government APC comes up to the wall, and then you just see, like, dozens of Molotovs just, in a second, just pelting, like, from all over the place.
And the whole thing is just engulfed in flames.
That's nuts.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
These videos are a bunch of kids going, Use your words!
Use your words!
adam crigler
We love you!
tim pool
You're violating his rights!
Yeah, we love you.
We love you.
lydia smith
We'll defend you.
tim pool
We'll get you out.
Oh, man.
But it is 48 days of low-tier violence.
And I think, to be fair, I think there's a reason why they're not doing what we see in Ukraine or whatever, where they just throw 50 miles of cocktails at once.
It's because they don't want to be on the news.
adam crigler
Yep.
Well, and you even said you were talking to a friend of yours and they were like, yeah, well, the riot, the rioting ended like a month ago.
tim pool
Exactly.
adam crigler
It's like, do you know what's going on in Portland right now?
tim pool
Georgia.
Yeah.
adam crigler
Utah.
tim pool
Two national emergencies declared in the past week and a half.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
It's Chicago.
You know, what's, you know, what's going on in Chicago.
You know, what's going on in New York.
It's like, no.
tim pool
People are stealing bread.
I hear from, from AOC.
adam crigler
Oh yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, so somebody super chatted us the other day from, I think it's Don't Walk Run Productions, did a video about AOC's claim that the reason crime is going up is because people are maybe stealing bread.
And I don't know the host's name, but he was like, how much bread does AOC think is being stolen right now?
Like, crime is up 130-something percent.
adam crigler
Did you hear what de Blasio said?
tim pool
No, what did he say?
adam crigler
He said, For the first time since World War II, we've had the lowest amount of inmates in our prisons.
lydia smith
Yeah, I know where they are.
adam crigler
And then he stood there like this.
tim pool
This is... It's like that meme where it's like... Are you kidding me?
You let them all out!
adam crigler
They're out there shooting everybody!
tim pool
But wait, this reminds me of that meme where it's like... It's like a Twitter account called ObviousFashSomething.
And it was like, you can get rid of all criminals by making all crime legal.
If there's no crime on the books, there's literally... So yes, we have less inmates than we ever have, because you let them all go without finishing their sentences.
And now you've got, I think it's like 13% to 15% are recommitting.
It's like hundreds of people have committed crimes.
And AOC, this is the funniest thing, she's like, maybe it's because they're scared to pay their rent and they're hungry and are stealing bread or something.
And Don't Walk Run Productions points out.
adam crigler
She's so clueless.
tim pool
They point out that petty larceny is down 23%.
Not only is that not what's happening, but nobody's even stealing these things.
The crime is gone.
It's the murders and the shootings.
I love that she thinks that some guy walks out and he goes, hey look, there's a guy with his daughter.
I need bread.
Bang!
I need to go get bread, and then he walks away.
Does he frisk the guy looking for bread?
Does he walk up to the dude on the ground and be like, let me see, where's that bread at?
Oh, there's no bread.
Oh, how am I going to go get a loaf of bread?
adam crigler
Yeah, that video upsets me.
tim pool
But I think that really does show that these people have no idea what's going on in their own jurisdictions.
adam crigler
No, they're clueless.
AOC is clearly clueless.
Now she's fighting for taxing the rich.
Tax the billionaires!
And Cuomo's like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
tim pool
Yeah, I know.
unidentified
No, no, no.
adam crigler
They'll leave town.
You realize, right?
They'll go to a different city and we won't get their tax money at all.
tim pool
What did he say?
God help us if the wealthy leave?
adam crigler
Right.
So they're leaving.
Surprise, surprise.
tim pool
You're going to love this.
There's a documentary about this from a long time ago about how Donald Trump saved New York City.
By creating a desire for luxury inhabitants.
So in the 80s, and I could be totally wrong because I just, I just watched like, I remember one night I was just like half glazed over sitting on the couch, like, and it was on in the background.
So that's my extent of this knowledge.
But they talked about how in the 80s, New York was collapsing.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
You know, the crime was skyrocketing.
The tax base was eroding.
Nobody wanted to live there.
So Trump basically came in and said, give me a massive tax break.
Make it worth my while.
adam crigler
They fought him on that too.
tim pool
Yeah.
And then he was like, I don't care.
He's like, but give me a tax break.
I'll bring some buildings.
I'll get, get rich people to live here.
Your taxes, your taxes, your, your, uh, your, your tax base will, will skyrocket.
adam crigler
That's the Trump Tower right there.
tim pool
And then he, there's multiple.
You've got, you've got the, you've got the Trump Tower on fifth.
adam crigler
Well, that was the start.
That was the, that was the beginning.
tim pool
How many are there?
There are three or there are more?
adam crigler
I mean, so here's how many that he built or that have the name Trump on well
tim pool
You've got the Trump International Hotel Hotel at Columbus Circle
You've got Trump on Fifth Avenue and you've got Trump at the UN the UN
So I don't know what the Trump at the Fifth Avenue one is like the ice cream shop in it
That's the famous one where he comes down the escalator.
Yeah Yeah, I actually know I hung out once with a couple people
who live Across the street from the UN at the other Trump luxury
building or whatever and then there's the yeah And then there's the Trump International Hotel.
But his strategy was, make it like desirable.
All the rich people want to be there.
You want to be cool, man.
You want to be like Trump.
You want that golden toilet?
You gotta come to New York.
And it worked.
adam crigler
Yep, it did.
tim pool
And that's what I saw from this documentary that was running in the background while I was eating ice cream or something.
I have no idea.
But I don't know if you've come across that stuff because you've been reading a lot about it.
adam crigler
Well, yeah.
That was the beginning.
They fought him for a while.
I think it was Mayor Koch.
Coach?
How do you say his name?
I don't know.
unidentified
Koch?
tim pool
Ed Koch, I think.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
They were fighting for a while about it.
And Trump eventually won and then built the building.
But then, of course, Yeah.
filled it out.
Like people were like lining up.
He sold one for like $10 million, one building.
But it's like those taxes all went into the city.
And it's like people don't realize the amount of, like the ripple effect that just that one building had
for the taxes of the city.
tim pool
There's a, from.
I think it's the American Enterprise Institute.
They did a graph showing the net income per income bracket.
And most people receive benefits.
Most people don't pay in.
It's basically the top 10%.
No, I think it's the top 20% is where you actually get a net benefit to the government.
The top 1% covers the overwhelming majority of all taxes.
Something like that.
You have to look up the hard numbers.
But basically, during Occupy Wall Street, there was the We Are the 99% movement, where people would take pictures saying like, you know, I went to school and now I got $100,000 in debt and I can't pay it off because I work at McDonald's.
I am the 99%.
But then something happened on the other side where people started writing, I think it's the 47% of Americans who actually pay taxes.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Yeah.
And so according to this graph I saw from the American Enterprise Institute, basically everybody pays taxes, right?
But what people don't realize, and this is a serious problem for us, is that if you're making like 40k a year, And you pay 23% or whatever in taxes, you're probably receiving more benefit in terms of all the infrastructure, the entirety of public services.
You're probably receiving more than you're paying in.
And then you have the rich people, which are paying a ridiculous amount.
And that's exactly why Trump wanted to bring people into New York.
It's exactly why Andrew Cuomo said something like, I think he said, God help us if the wealthy leave.
And now they're starting to leave.
I pulled all this stuff up, I did a segment on it where I was like, Cuomo's worst nightmare is here.
Following COVID, the wealthy people are fleeing.
Oh man, she lit that city on fire.
This is not a joke, man.
Amazon was gonna build a second headquarters in Queens.
25 to 40,000 jobs, dang.
Do you have any idea how the tax base works?
I'm saying this to AOC, not to you.
That one person who gets hired by Amazon, they get paid $100K a year, whatever, we'll just say $100K because it's an Amazon job.
Amazon's got to pay employment tax.
Then that resident has to pay taxes.
Then they rent a building, they pay taxes.
Then they start paying into the metro system to get around.
Then they start buying goods, sales taxes.
That one person generates a massive amount of taxes because it's not just your paycheck.
When I have a dollar, if I give it to you and you pay taxes on it, now you have 80 cents.
Then you give me 80 cents, then I pay tax on it, now I've got 70 cents.
Back and forth, Uncle Sam keeps taking a little bit, in this instance, Uncle Cuomo,
keeps taking a little bit of cash.
So when you have $25,000 to $40,000, let's say I was in the high end, man.
That was money that city needed desperately because the MTA is facing a four billion dollar shortfall.
Those trains are gonna stop working.
They were gonna shut down the L train.
For those that don't live in New York, the hot hipster neighborhood Williamsburg.
There's one train to get in there from Manhattan.
The L. Bed Bushwick.
Yeah.
adam crigler
Eastern Williamsburg.
tim pool
Well, they just kept changing the name.
So basically, Williamsburg was the hot neighborhood.
In order to convince people to move to crummier neighborhoods surrounding it, they would call it like East and Southeast Williamsburg.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Just like, change the name of the neighborhood because people want to live there.
adam crigler
That's Bed-Stuy.
tim pool
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
adam crigler
Sorry.
tim pool
But so, so here's, here's what happens.
The L train was falling apart.
So they announced they were going to suspend service.
And then I think that was years ago.
Like it was supposed to have been shut down.
I don't know what they're doing.
adam crigler
Yeah.
It was vastly approaching before I left town.
I mean, I skated most places.
I would skate everywhere.
So I didn't take the train that often unless I needed to get somewhere quickly and it was like dumping outside or whatever.
I would then take the train.
tim pool
The L train.
adam crigler
But the L train was supposed to shut down because it really, really needed some repair.
tim pool
It kept breaking.
adam crigler
It kept breaking.
So they were going to shut it down for months.
tim pool
No, like a year or something.
adam crigler
Oh yeah, yeah.
Maybe even a year.
tim pool
I don't know exactly the amount.
So my understanding of what happened, just as someone who lived nearby, not following the news that much, was that property value just tanked.
Everybody was investing in this neighborhood, thinking like it's up and coming, it's super hot and hipster.
The L train was basically one stop from Williamsburg into Manhattan.
It just brought you under the water.
When they announced they were going to shut it down, all of the real estate, you know, owners, investors were like, no!
Like, oh man, we're going to lose everything.
Because no one's going to want to live stuck in this little peninsula you can't get out.
So, anyway, long story short, they ended up suspending the timeframe and moving it, but whatever.
This is why the Amazon deal was so important, bringing these jobs in.
And AOC, she leads these protests.
She went down to the financial district and she was like, Amazon, gotta pay their fair share.
And there's this really cringe video where she walks up to the camera, like she's walking out of a meeting, and then someone asks her like, okay, Ocasio-Cortez, what about Amazon?
And she goes, can you believe they were gonna give Amazon $3 billion?
And then everyone was like, dude, it was a discount.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
They weren't giving money.
So basically, if if Dunkin Donuts said two dollars off a dozen donuts, she'd be like, I can't believe they're going to give people two dollars.
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no.
tim pool
You have to buy the donuts.
And they're just a little cheaper than normally.
See how that works.
adam crigler
Cyber Cyber Reset just said it's a little super chat said AOC is the new Mary Antoinette.
tim pool
Oh, geez.
adam crigler
And it's so accurate.
Like what you just said, like Well, just give them some bread then.
That's basically what she's saying.
tim pool
Why don't they just eat some bread?
adam crigler
Well, if they just want bread, why don't you just hook them up with some bread then?
tim pool
Why not?
So she chased out Amazon and then started saying, I don't even represent that district.
Why is everyone blaming me?
And people were like, dude, you were like the lead.
Like a speaker at the protests to kick them out.
adam crigler
Because you have a following and people think they know what you're talking about, AOC.
That's why.
tim pool
And she was tweeting about it, and she was speaking about it, and she was wrong about it.
And Cuomo was livid, and local Democrats were livid, and she still won her primary.
How about that?
That blew my mind.
So now you've chased out Amazon.
Here's the best part.
Oh, I love it.
So Amazon announces they're gonna open a marketing office, which has like a thousand employees, and she takes a picture of herself in her lobby smiling like, mm-hmm, and then she tweets like, when you're proven right and Amazon comes back anyway, and then all of these dumb lefties are all high-fiving each other going like, yeah, you know, and everyone's like, First of all, that is 1,000 employees, not 25,000.
Second of all, they were going to open that office anyway.
It's a different office.
It's marketing.
adam crigler
Those jobs were already going to be there, but we just lost all these other jobs.
Thanks, AOC.
tim pool
To go back a little bit to what's going on in Portland, this is why I do not like the feds cleaning up the mess for these Democratic mayors and governors and whatever.
They just re-elected AOC in the primary.
I swear, if she's going to win, the general, then New York City deserves it.
They're asking for it.
And Trump says he's not going to give them money?
unidentified
Good!
tim pool
Good!
If, listen, here's the way I see it.
If the people of Portland will not indict, they refuse to return indictments on these rioters.
They clearly want it.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
And if the mayor says, we like our city burning down, okay then, the feds can go into the courthouse and defend the courthouse.
And then Antifa can go around, running around, destroying whatever.
And give the cities what they ask for.
The problem is, if you, like you're a parent, if you keep cleaning up the messes for your kids, they never learn.
And then what ends up happening is, the more the federal government steps in to clean up the mess for these people, the more they keep electing them, and it gets worse.
Then their senators get elected, and their congresspeople get elected, and they go to the federal government, and they bring that mess with them.
What I think would be appropriate is if they don't want to indict people and they want rioters running around, well, it's the Portland cops' job to deal with that.
Not the feds'.
adam crigler
Yep, I agree.
tim pool
So the feds should guard the courthouse and just let the rioters do their thing.
Maybe.
But you know, someone mentioned this, that the people of Portland, they don't really care about what happens downtown because they don't live there.
So this is the perfect opportunity for the left to start filming feds acting a fool, you know, or I mean, from their perspective, like, aha, look, look what they're doing.
And regular people aren't there and they won't realize.
So it's a perfect propaganda opportunity.
Anyway, long story short, man, you get what you vote for, you know?
And Portland didn't vote for Trump.
So why should Trump's pact be cleaning up their messes?
adam crigler
I don't have an answer for that.
They shouldn't.
tim pool
But there's another big problem in this world today that contributes to this nightmare, and that is fake news, my friends.
I must show you the fakest of fake news.
I'm going to explain to you something I've probably explained a lot.
adam crigler
Break it down, Tim.
tim pool
Why it is people in this country have no idea what's going on and why their brains are broken.
adam crigler
Boom.
tim pool
So, a good example.
Actually, let me give you the full context first.
Daily Mail says, quote, Let's go!
Donald Trump furiously orders aides to provide proof to Fox News' Chris Wallace that Joe Biden wants to defund the police and his staff can't provide any.
First and foremost, they frame this story as though it is not true.
Let me just tell you, Trump was right.
Joe Biden does, based on the common understanding of what defund means, Joe Biden does want to defund the police by his own admission, his own words.
Yes, absolutely.
We'll get to that.
But what you need to understand about why this story is so... annoying...
is when Adam talks about he's trying to convince people on Facebook or not even
necessarily convince people just explaining people like yo you know uh here's here here's
a story that's really important about why you know i would want to vote for trump yeah and
then you get a bunch of people saying like i don't believe you you know well how dare you
adam crigler
you vote for someone that is a bigot and was like that has nothing to do with what i just
like presented you like Like, look at what I just said, read the article that I'm presenting, and you're just, you're coming at me with something different.
tim pool
Well, here's the best example.
Earlier today, you posted something about Joe Biden will get back in bed with China.
adam crigler
Right, yeah.
tim pool
And then someone was like, you're only saying that because Trump just said it's not true, blah blah blah.
And the difficult thing is you can pull up 50 billion articles that will make it seem like Joe Biden is all about America.
But when you actually dig in and look at the framing, you realize it's just lazy journalism.
adam crigler
Yeah.
And then and then they actually some of them have messaged me privately.
Here's all this.
Here's all the articles that I was talking to you about.
tim pool
Yep.
adam crigler
And I read them all.
80% of them, Trump allegedly did this, Trump allegedly did this, Trump allegedly did this, and I'm like, ugh.
Or, I'm sick of this allegedly stuff.
It's like, give me the exact stuff, because everything I'm reading, I look into, and it didn't actually happen.
So it's them saying whatever, whatever.
tim pool
We'll come back to this.
adam crigler
Go ahead.
tim pool
But I want to make sure everybody who's watching this gets an understanding of how the media is broken.
I bring you now to the Daily Mail.
You see, I read you this headline.
Trump furiously says, you know, I want proof, but he can't provide any.
Oh no, Trump.
adam crigler
Oh, oh no.
tim pool
Look at this.
Trump claims Joe Biden wants to defund police in upcoming Fox News interview.
Now we have this one from the Hill.
Fox host Chris Wallace, fact, Chris Wallace, fact checks Trump claim Biden wants to defund the police.
Now they're all a bit more neutral on this, but the reality is Joe Biden absolutely does.
And I have for you the interview where he literally says, yes.
Let me see if, well, let's play it.
Hopefully the sound works.
joe biden
Surplus military equipment for law enforcement.
They don't need that.
The last thing you need is an up-armored Humvee coming into a neighborhood.
It's like the military invading.
They don't know anybody.
They become the enemy.
They're supposed to be protecting these people.
unidentified
So my generic point is that- But can we agree that we can redirect some of the funding?
joe biden
Yes, absolutely.
unidentified
One of the things that- Okay, from now this.
tim pool
Yes, absolutely.
Cut police funds.
They've become the enemy.
First, let me call out the Trump war room.
He didn't say cut funding to the police.
He said, redirect some of the funding.
And Joe Biden said, yes, absolutely.
Now I bring you to the New York Post story.
In this interview, Chris Wallace is like, he's talking to Donald Trump, and Trump says, well, look, Joe Biden wants to defund the police.
And Wallace goes, no, sir, he does not.
And Trump's like, yes, he does.
He just did this pact with Bernie Sanders, and he goes, let's go.
And he calls his aides, and his aides can't find anything specifically in this document with Bernie that says defund, but it does talk about reallocation.
More importantly, however, the New York Post does bring up this at the bottom.
They say, the Bernie Sanders unity agenda does not use the term defund, but calls for policies that will reorient our public safety approach toward prevention and away from over-policing.
Biden orally committed last week to steering funds away from the police.
An interviewer asked the former vice president, but do we agree that we can redirect some of the police funding?
Yes, absolutely.
Now I know, right away.
Chris Wallace is probably saying, well redirecting funds does not mean defund or abolish.
And I'm sure all of the lefties are going to be like, no.
You see Biden, someone tweeted this to me.
Biden was talking about moving funding from like one department to another.
No, he literally said redirect police funding.
Okay.
You want to make, you want to make an assumption about what it means?
Feel free to do so.
I'm not going to do that.
I'm going to show you what they literally mean.
According to the Brookings Institute, defund the police means reallocating or redirecting funding away from the police department to other government agencies funded by the local municipality.
That's it.
unidentified
Boom.
adam crigler
It's that simple.
tim pool
It's that simple.
So now you have all these people running around, you see stories like this.
AP, Joe Biden did not call for defunding the police.
Hold on a minute.
If the definition that they gave Okay, in numerous instances, because look, I'm choosing these select sources, right?
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
There's 50 billion sources that say defund means literally defund.
Check this one out.
Yes, we mean literally abolish the police.
lydia smith
That's helpful.
tim pool
Okay, man.
So I'll tell you what, if Joe Biden doesn't know what he's talking about, you do not have the right to claim you can read his mind and knew what he really meant.
What they're doing in the media is they're using whatever definition is, you know, going to get them the most points.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
So when they first said defund the police, and it shocked the minds of America when they were like, whoa, defund the police?
I believe something like 80% or so say no to this.
They don't want to see a reduction in police funding.
But a lot of people thought it meant remove all funding from police.
All of a sudden we heard a split.
A bunch of people said, no, no, no, no, no, no.
It just means like demilitarize.
Like Joe Biden was saying, they got big tanks.
They don't need that, become the enemy.
Yes, he's taking the Democratic Party's approach that the police departments should have a little bit less funding because they got too much big, big, you know, APCs and weapons and stuff.
That is literally one of the definitions of defund the police.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
According to other definitions, it means literally abolish.
But based on what Joe Biden said, it does fit what they're claiming.
And now the AP says this.
During an interview with activist A.D.
Barkin, Democratic presidential hopeful Joe Biden gave his full support to defunding the police in the US.
AP's assessment?
False.
Biden said he supports redirecting some police funding to address mental health or to change the prison system.
I'm sorry, what did the Brookings Institute say?
So who's right?
This is why no one has any idea what's really happening in this country.
adam crigler
I have an answer.
I have an answer.
Trump is.
tim pool
Exactly.
adam crigler
Trump is right.
tim pool
He is.
He was correct.
Yep.
So this is the problem.
When Trump says Hillary Clinton acid-washed her server, and then NBC says, Hillary Clinton actually didn't use a corrosive substance on her computer.
That would be ridiculous.
Or then when Trump's having a candid interview with Chris Wallace, he doesn't have these sources pulled up in front of him.
I'll tell you what, Donald Trump.
I'm going to assume you're listening, because you better be.
unidentified
Of course.
tim pool
Or Trump Jr.
Kayleigh McEnany needs to be standing next to you for all of these interviews, 100%.
You know why?
Because she got that binder with all those tabs.
And Chris Wallace would be like, no, sir.
Joe Biden does not want to.
Up, up, up, up.
Kayleigh?
And she'd go, I have it right here, actually.
He said, we would, yes, absolutely, when asked if we would reallocate.
And then Chris Wallace will go, well, reallocating, is that... Kayleigh?
And then she'd go, yes, actually, right here, in this source, this source, this source, and this source, they all defined defunding as reallocating funds.
So, yes, Joe Biden agrees with that.
And then it would be over.
unidentified
Yep.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
He need, Kayleigh McEnany, you got, just got, you got to bring her, you just have her.
She, she's the press secretary.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
She should be just standing right off.
Then when Trump wants to call his aides over and they read through the Biden
Bernie pact and they don't know what's in it or where Joe Biden said he wants to
reallocate some of this funding, I'm pretty sure Kayleigh, Kayleigh McEnany has all the answers.
adam crigler
Yep, she does.
tim pool
She's a beast.
That photo, you've seen that photo?
adam crigler
Of her binder?
tim pool
Yeah, her binder's got all these tabs of all these different stories.
adam crigler
It's so legit.
tim pool
And I love it.
She'll get asked some stupid question and she'll go, I'm glad you asked.
And then she'll pull the tab and she'll go, ah, here we are.
It's amazing.
adam crigler
Oh yeah, that example?
Well what about this example?
This example, this example, and this example?
Next.
tim pool
And now, ladies and gentlemen, I would like to slam dunk the last portion of this segment.
Does Joe Biden Want to defund the police?
Well, as we've broken down for you, the answer is a technical yes.
I mean, he said he wants to reallocate funding.
That's at least one of the basic definitions.
So I think we can say, although there are many people with different perspectives, he at least fits one of them.
But how about this?
Biden campaign staffer mocked cops as worse than pigs and called for defunding the police.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
I understand it's not Biden directly, but come on, man.
It's a campaign staffer.
So maybe he doesn't know her, but this is a part of his campaign.
Same as Bernie Sanders when he had those people exposed by Veritas, okay?
This is what this person, Sarah Pearl, tweeted.
It's an image.
It says, please stop calling cops pigs.
Pigs are highly intelligent and empathetic animals who would never racially profile you.
adam crigler
I have a question.
tim pool
And then there's hearts next to a pig face.
adam crigler
I wonder if she's vegan.
I bet she eats bacon.
tim pool
I don't know, maybe.
I wouldn't be surprised if they're all vegans.
After what they were demanding from the Chaz.
We demand seitan!
adam crigler
No, that was in Portland, I think.
That was the original pre-Chaz Chaz.
tim pool
We demand vegan food!
I told you about Paz.
adam crigler
Portland?
tim pool
I told you the sad story of the wasted vegan pizza at Occupy.
adam crigler
Yeah, you told me about it.
tim pool
This tastes weird.
adam crigler
Someone's trying to poison it.
tim pool
Well, it looked weird.
Oh.
And nobody knew what it was.
Yeah, so at Occupy, a bunch of pizzas got delivered, and people opened it and noticed
that on one pizza it looked normal, and the other one, the cheese looked like it wasn't
all the way melted.
Right.
adam crigler
Such a shame.
tim pool
Exactly and so people were like I don't know this looks weird and someone tried
It's like it doesn't taste like regular pizza, and they're like we don't we better not eat it
They just dumped it such a shame. Yeah, it was vegan pizza Yep, and the regular pizza was fine the vegan pizza
probably way healthier probably, but so anyway look out actually
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna pretend like just because one campaign staffer
called for defunding the police or whatever But I think you add this with what we just talked about and
there it is Joe Biden, his campaign, they do agree with the same activist sentiment.
Call it whatever you want, reallocate, you know, address, whatever.
Joe Biden says yes, absolutely, when the activists ask him if he's on board.
adam crigler
Yeah, defund means take funds away.
tim pool
Period.
adam crigler
So now... Doesn't matter where they go.
If you're moving them somewhere else, you're defunding the police.
tim pool
But now for the sad, pessimistic view of the world.
adam crigler
Oh great.
tim pool
Every.
Single.
Story.
Is this.
Obviously not literally all I'm just saying like 90 something percent every day I'm going through the news and it's like, you know Snopes did Donald Trump actually, you know Like did Donald Trump carry a bag of burning puppies, you know and toss them into a burning building mostly true and then what it'll say is while Donald Trump did throw a bag of puppies into Right.
into a burning building, it was actually because he was moving them out of the burning room
into the safe room where the firefighters were waiting to safely rescue them.
It was the living room of the building.
That's what they do, right?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So it's like, you get this really great story.
Donald Trump, you know, jumps in front of a car to save a little kid, and they'll show the picture
of Trump like this in front of the kid, in front of the car, and it'll be like, you know,
did Trump push a kid in front of a car?
True, Donald Trump pushed the kid who was in front of a car to save his life.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
It's like, that's not the context.
Yeah, man.
adam crigler
Learn the context, people.
tim pool
No, it's on purpose.
Learn the context.
Jim Acosta knows what he's doing.
adam crigler
Brian Stelter knows what he's doing.
The media are storytellers.
That's what I'm finding out.
They're storytellers that tell the story that they want to tell.
And you have to Look it up.
Look up the context.
That's what I've been doing.
Everyone keeps giving me, oh, well, here's this article.
And I'm like, all right, I'll read it.
Yeah, but dude... And then I'll go and follow the sources to the end to where it actually is talking about.
And I'm like, oh, so it's not true.
And I go back to the conversation.
OK, so that's not true.
tim pool
But what the right... Whoa, whoa, whoa.
adam crigler
Yes, it is.
Someone actually said that to me.
tim pool
But the average person spends most of their day at work.
adam crigler
You're right.
And all these people coming at me on Facebook, that's what they tend to do also.
And I actually try to explain to them, okay, well my job is actually researching all of this, non-stop, all day.
That's what I've been doing.
Even my free time.
I don't even have free time anymore.
My free time is when we go skating.
Yeah.
As soon as that's over, I'm like, alright, back to the grind.
But they don't want to hear that.
They don't want to hear it.
tim pool
They're like, are you a doctor, Adam?
Are you a doctor?
adam crigler
Someone told me that today.
Because I've been talking about certain things on Facebook.
tim pool
And basically what they like to do is, how about you, you know, just leave it to the experts, Adam, and then when you say something like, actually, it's my job to read the news all day and fact-check these things, gone.
They just don't respond.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
Because they don't actually care about what's important, what's true.
This is a serious cultural problem we have.
Because I'll tell you what, man, if the American people don't want to high-five and yell America together, well then that's a bigger problem.
That's all that matters.
So look, even if we disagreed on certain policy issues, as long as we agree on AMERICA, you know?
adam crigler
That's not even the thing anymore.
People are starting to be convinced that America is not good, and it's like, that's crazy to me.
That is insane.
And I know a lot of these people have never been outside America, and they need to.
tim pool
Probably not even outside their hometown.
adam crigler
I know for a fact that they have.
But as far as leaving the states, I know one friend of mine has traveled around a lot, and he should know better, but it's like, I read... America's an amazing place!
We are free here.
Our civil rights... How many countries have the amount of civil rights that we do?
What do you think?
tim pool
Oh man, I honestly don't know.
adam crigler
What percentage?
tim pool
Really small, actually.
adam crigler
Tiny percentage.
tim pool
Because, well, it's really, really small.
Even European countries don't have the same civil rights as us.
adam crigler
You're absolutely right.
tim pool
Like, Canada, you can get arrested for saying naughty words on the internet.
In the UK, Count Dankula Count Danikula's story is the perfect example of how insane things are, even in Western nations.
Because he made a joke for like 10 subscribers of his dog doing something offensive.
They arrested the guy.
And they took the money out of his bank, they charged and convicted him for making a joke on the internet.
In the United States, this even happens to people.
You know there are stories of people posting rap lyrics getting arrested and charged with terror and stuff?
adam crigler
Seriously?
tim pool
Yeah, there's one story about some kid who posted rap lyrics.
And the rap lyrics were... Lewd?
No, like terroristic.
adam crigler
Oh, wow.
tim pool
Yeah, like talking about, you know, popping a cap or whatever.
adam crigler
That's a whole other conversation about a certain culture that's, you know, making people do certain things and believe that that's the cool thing to do.
tim pool
It's not even about that.
It's about the fact that we have a First Amendment right here in this country.
Yeah.
And even when the line is blurred, you can sometimes have your rights violated.
And we still are one of the best countries.
adam crigler
You're right.
tim pool
I don't, I don't, I guess, arguably, in terms of freedom, Mexico might be better.
You know why?
adam crigler
Why?
tim pool
They've got, you know, I think it's in like southern Mexico, a bunch of anarchists, like both left and right wing, kind of just do whatever they want, because it's relatively lawless.
Yeah, Luke Rutkowski, if we are changed, went down to, I guess, I don't know if it's Acapulco, Anarchapulco, or however, like wherever it is, but he literally went to the city that's all private.
It's like private security.
There's no real strong government.
People just do whatever they want.
And then rich people like to go down there and have private security guards guarding their property because they can do whatever they want.
Think about the things you can actually do.
Maybe play a game of poker with your friends.
Maybe fire a bow and arrow in your backyard.
Like, I want to talk about things that, like, if you knew what you were doing, and you had a decent-sized backyard, and you had the proper safety and all that stuff, and you knew it was safe, you still can't do that in a lot of places.
Like, they'll call the cops.
Or even a BB gun.
So a lot of people thinking about that, and probably drugs, They want to go off in the middle of nowhere.
But these places, like in southern Mexico, are not necessarily the middle of nowhere.
They're towns with functioning, you know, stores and goods.
And it's interesting, man.
Talk about freedom.
But you know what?
I do personally think, I am not, I'm not personally not an anarchist.
I do like some government.
You know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I would consider myself liberal.
So a little bit more government than a libertarian would want.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That means, I like the cops.
I like being able to have a justice system that, for the most part, tries to get it right.
Not perfect, not all the time.
Better than some random dude, you know, because in Anarcopolco, some lefty hippies were doing drugs or something, and somebody ran in and just shot them and killed two of the guys.
unidentified
Dang.
tim pool
Yeah, just went bang, bang, bang, and what do you do?
Can't do anything about it.
And so I see that stuff and I'm like, that's why I like police.
Not because the cops are going to just magically appear and stop this.
You've got to defend yourself, you've got your responsibilities.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
But that we have a justice system that will, to whatever degree you're happy with, like sometimes it's not perfect, they'll try to stop these people so they don't do it again.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And that does reduce the amount of crimes and murder.
And now the best part, man.
New York City.
They defunded the police.
One billion dollars.
They reassigned 600 anti-crime unit cops.
Crime skyrocketed.
And now guess what?
adam crigler
They're asking for it back.
tim pool
Local activists.
adam crigler
Begging for it back.
Please.
tim pool
Please bring back our police.
Local activists in New York are saying, like, no, we want our cops back.
The crime's going up.
unidentified
Help.
tim pool
And what do we get from AOC?
adam crigler
What a surprise.
tim pool
AOC is like, well, it'll be like the suburbs.
They just want bread.
adam crigler
Really?
Well, before she even got to that statement, well, what does defunding the police look like?
Oh, it looks like the suburbs.
Where everyone has, like, a big, large property, and they're a nice house?
Like, really?
That's what it's gonna look like?
Sure, AOC.
tim pool
And less dense population.
adam crigler
Less dense population.
People aren't living on top of each other.
Hmm.
That's what it's gonna look like to you?
Where does she live?
She is Mary Antoinette.
It's true.
tim pool
She comes out and says, defund the police means defund, and this isn't enough.
We need more.
Meanwhile, the people who actually live in New York are saying, please help us.
We need our police.
And is she listening?
No.
She's saying maybe they need bread.
I love that, dude.
That's Mary Antoinette.
adam crigler
It is.
tim pool
Let them have bread.
adam crigler
Let them have bread.
tim pool
Maybe they're stealing bread while they're shooting each other.
adam crigler
Wow, man.
And beating cops up.
tim pool
Yeah, dude.
adam crigler
And shooting each other.
In front of their kids.
tim pool
You know what's funny?
We talked about Donald Trump setting up these luxury buildings to get rich people to come back to pay taxes.
Now Trump's gone.
All these people in New York are ragging on him all the time.
And now their tax base is eroding due to their horrifying job dealing with COVID.
They blame him for it, but it's all Cuomo's fault.
adam crigler
Yeah, absolutely.
tim pool
It's all de Blasio's fault, to be fair.
And mostly Cuomo.
adam crigler
They're both to blame.
tim pool
Yeah, I think Bill de Blasio first.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then Cuomo, but both of them.
adam crigler
They probably they were probably talking about it.
tim pool
It's like they're both standing there yelling, we saved the city.
And like everybody's dead from Covid.
lydia smith
Patrick and SpongeBob.
tim pool
Yeah, exactly.
We did it.
lydia smith
We saved the city.
tim pool
Congratulations.
It ran amok, killed a bunch of people, and that was them.
You know, there's Bill de Blasio's people early on saying, come down to Chinatown.
Nancy Pelosi was doing the same thing.
And they want to try and blame Trump for it.
Look, man, you can criticize Trump who's not doing good enough, but you have to do better than him.
Like, if you're doing a really bad job, like imagine this.
Imagine, like, the kitchen is a disaster zone.
And, like, you're cleaning it, and I'm sitting there literally throwing garbage on the floor, and I'm like, Adam, why don't you clean up your mess?
And you're like, first of all, I didn't make the mess.
Second of all, you're literally throwing garbage on the floor.
adam crigler
Like, you can't be... By the way, this actually happens.
tim pool
No, this doesn't happen.
No, I'm just kidding.
My point is...
You can criticize Trump, for sure.
But I think it's fair to say, if you've got criticism, can you do better?
One of the problems I have with—actually, you know what I'll do?
I'm going to give a shout-out to a Casey Neistat video and try and connect these into a similar idea about relativity.
So they're saying Trump's doing a bad job.
Relative to what?
Who do we compare COVID to?
Other countries that are smaller and have different, you know, border controls?
You know, when you look at these European nations that are much smaller than the U.S.
and they were able to lock down their borders, that certainly helped.
We didn't lock down our borders between states.
It's up to the states to do not Trump.
adam crigler
And remember, we are called the United States for a reason.
They're different states.
Every state has its own laws.
It has its own governors.
They do their own thing.
They straight up told Trump to F off.
Like, don't even try to tell us what to do.
We're running the show.
We're the governors.
And he did try.
tim pool
He was like, here's my guidelines.
adam crigler
Yeah, he tried to help.
And they were like, nah, nah, nah.
Those are your guidelines.
This is the United States.
This is what we do.
But then as soon as that corner turns, they flip it on him.
Like, well, now we can blame him.
Now we're going to switch it around.
tim pool
It's relativity.
adam crigler
Relativity.
tim pool
Is Trump doing a bad job on COVID?
In order to say yes or no, you need a control United States, which does not exist.
That's a good point.
And, and so I see a lot of people saying, well, look at Italy.
How come they, well, Italy is like one state.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Well still, how come Italy versus, versus what, New York?
Cause that's real, New York is the epicenter.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Well, what about Pennsylvania?
Do we have border restrictions stopping people from traveling between New York and Pennsylvania?
No, you can just go boop boop boop boop boop, and Trump can't do anything about that.
So it's not the same, it's very hard to quantify.
But this brings me to the general lefty argument, because I was watching this video from Casey Neistat, it's an older video, and it's called something like being rich versus being poor, and he basically talks about how he was reading this article, That said, this guy makes $1.2 million a year and he hates his life.
He's miserable, his office sucks, and he's unhappy.
And they talk about a janitor who loves his job and feels so helpful.
He's a janitor at a hospital.
And they bring up a really good point about purpose and fulfillment.
Basically, if you're a real estate agent and you're making millions of dollars, do you feel fulfilled?
Are you actually helping the world be a better place?
Probably not.
So what the guy said was, when I die, will anyone care that I got a 2% return on my investment?
But the janitor is saying, I may not be a doctor, but without me, people will literally die.
Like, I need to clean up medical waste and make sure the hospital is functioning in such a way that the doctors can bring these people in safely and securely.
And so what I'm doing is very important.
adam crigler
Purpose.
People need a purpose.
tim pool
In this video he talks about how he says, you know, they claim money can't buy you happiness, but it can.
And the reason he gives is that everybody's trying to find happiness, love, purpose, and fulfillment, and others.
These are like...
You know, human desires.
And then he mentions that, then he like folds this thing up and it says healthcare, clothes, you know, housing.
And he was like, when you are rich, you can just pay for all of these problems to go away.
And then these other things, you're just free to explore.
So money can literally solve your problems.
And I take, I disagree.
I humbly disagree.
And this goes back to a lot of what we're saying about the far left, about AOC.
Think about what health care means today.
Think about what housing means today.
adam crigler
You know, so... Standards of living everyone's used to.
tim pool
The standards of living in this country are so incredibly high.
The only reason you think your health care is a problem is because you know someone has it better.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
Think about it.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
A hundred years ago, if you got cancer, what do you do?
unidentified
You know what?
tim pool
Guess I'll die.
adam crigler
More importantly though, they don't know that there's people in the world that have it less.
tim pool
Well, that's what I mean.
That's the other side of the point.
adam crigler
But that's what everyone ignores.
They only see someone that's doing better.
Capitalism is so bad!
Is it?
Or are you just clueless to what's really going on in the world?
Because that's what I'm seeing.
tim pool
The meme is, graduates with, you know, feminist dance degree, and then complains capitalism isn't working.
But, you know, when I watch this video, I'm like, if you stubbed, you know, if you got a cut in the middle of the woods, you know, two or three hundred years ago on an important journey, you'd look down and go, oh man, guess I'll die.
I'm kidding, but that's like the joke.
adam crigler
But it could.
If you're not... Lose your leg!
...near water where you can open, like, take out the sliver of the, you know, you stub your toe on a piece of wood.
tim pool
Burn it, I guess.
adam crigler
A bit of wood.
tim pool
You could cauterize it.
unidentified
Infection.
tim pool
I have no idea.
adam crigler
I cut my foot, my ankle, on coral when I was 12.
Just cut it open.
It was bad.
I mean, I got it sewn up.
Everything was fine.
Seven months later, I got a bone infection in my right hip.
I was bedridden for months.
I couldn't walk.
It was really bad.
But that's the kind of thing that we don't even think about.
It's like, sure, yeah, if I cut it, I could have maybe sewed the wound shut, whatever would have been fine, but the infection that got me later on in life.
tim pool
People are clueless.
I'm not saying people should be resigned to poverty.
I'm just saying keep some perspective.
Perspective is everything.
Just because other people might have it better doesn't mean you have it worse.
We've gradually improved everything.
I was watching a rerun of Outer Limits, that show from, like, the 90s.
Oh, because I just watched it.
I love that show.
One of them, it's these two guys who get teleported.
They get time-traveled to the Civil War.
One of the guys is an actual medic.
And so, he gets captured by the Confederates.
He's dressed like a Yankee for a reenactment.
And they force him to perform a surgery on a guy who got shot in the leg.
And they're like, we need you to amputate.
And he goes, no, I don't need to amputate.
And the colonel or whatever is like, if you do not amputate, this man will die.
And he goes, this man will not die.
Because he had his bag with him and he pulled out a little tube of like, you know, Neosporin or something, some antibacterial.
He just rubbed it on the leg and it was like, good to go.
And then the next day, like the guy's like, you saved my life and it saved my leg.
It was some simple, something we take for granted that we go, you go to Walgreens and you're like, how much for this tube?
I stubbed my toe.
I'm like, that'll be $2.
And you're like, $2 fine.
Or you like take some mouthwash and you like splash it on because you're like, well, I guess I'll use this.
And it's antiseptic.
So I look at a lot of these lefties that think they should be Rockefeller.
They think they should be Donald Trump.
And I'm like, no, no, no, no.
There will always be people who are better, who are richer.
I mean, there's one person out of 7.2 billion that is the richest person.
Literally, not everybody can be completely equal in all these terms.
You can be equal in poverty.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Go to a country like Venezuela.
Even there, you're not completely equal.
There's still wealthy people who have military power and control.
adam crigler
And they'll do the, well, I mean, his dad was rich.
That's true.
Okay, well then think about your great-grandchild.
Think about that child and make sure that they're set up.
Think about them.
Don't think about yourself anymore.
Think about how Trump got that.
And his great-grandfather came here.
He wasn't super wealthy.
I mean, I'll talk about it more tomorrow.
But basically, that's what you've got to do.
Plan for the future.
Think about the future and be like, I need to better myself today so that when my child grows up, they're going to be better off.
tim pool
Whoa, whoa, whoa, Adam.
That sounds like you're talking some white supremacy here.
Planning for the future?
adam crigler
Yeah, whatever.
That's a stupid article.
I don't want to give credence to that.
That's stupid.
I don't even like joking about it.
It's stupid.
This is a serious issue.
If you seriously think that there's other people out there that are doing better than you, and that's what you're focused on, your focus is wrong.
You need to focus on yourself.
That's what people don't want to do anymore, and that pisses me off.
unidentified
Well, well, well.
adam crigler
I'm seeing it everywhere.
tim pool
But hold on.
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
The way I'd put it is, if you look at somebody, and they're better off than you, and your reaction is, I deserve what they have, your next question should be, what do I have to do to accomplish it?
adam crigler
That's exactly right.
unidentified
Boom.
tim pool
And then, more importantly, within the law.
unidentified
Because some people will be like, I got me a knife, I'm gonna go take what I deserve.
tim pool
And some people are gonna be like, I got me a Molotov, and I'm gonna go demand the government give me what I deserve.
adam crigler
You gotta earn it.
tim pool
You deserve what you build.
And then they say, but capitalism is exploitative.
And you know what, man?
You're free.
You are free.
I'll tell you what, why don't any of these people understand entitlement?
adam crigler
Do they buy a shirt?
Do they wear shirts?
Do you want to wear a hat?
Do you use headphones?
Do you communicate on your phone every day?
They turn such a blind eye to the benefits of what it has brought us, even down to antiseptic, which is super important.
Go ahead, what?
tim pool
We should start a fund.
Raise a bunch of money to buy a big plot of land and build a commune and invite all of them to live there for free and bask in true utopian equality.
adam crigler
What would they do?
tim pool
Well, if you want food, you gotta grow it.
adam crigler
But they did that.
They did that.
You told me about the farm in New York.
tim pool
I'm saying, let's make it a thing.
It's like, so all these people are like, we demand equality and socialism, bro.
We got a socialist commune ready to go, exactly as you dreamed it up.
And if you work hard, you'll be fine.
And I literally mean it in the best ways possible.
But you know, I expect it to happen.
adam crigler
Warlord?
tim pool
No, well, yeah.
Someone would show up with a gun and be like, I'm gonna sit right here and you give me grapes.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And then they're, no, but like, let's say we actually set up a real commune, because they exist.
There's one, it's really, really great.
Okay.
They all vote on who they let in, and they have like a limit on how many people are allowed, but it really does function properly.
adam crigler
I've seen, there's a few, and they exist over in Europe also, some in the UK.
tim pool
I got mad respect.
adam crigler
And some here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But they built it.
tim pool
And they work hard.
adam crigler
And they work hard.
Every single day, you don't stop working.
tim pool
But they love it.
adam crigler
People don't want to work either.
Hard work is another one of those lists.
tim pool
But check it out.
The people who actually started these communes, they're hard workers.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
They invited in hard workers, and the people who don't work hard are free to go at any time.
adam crigler
No, no, no.
Are kicked out.
If you don't work hard in those kind of environments, you are not welcome.
tim pool
You don't get food, and then you leave.
adam crigler
No, they're very strict.
I've watched a few things on those kind of places, and they are strict.
If you don't do the work, you're not welcome there.
And that makes sense to me.
tim pool
What I'd love to do is I'd love to set up a little commune, and I will pay your travel ticket in style.
You'll come down, you can bring whatever you want, and then get to tillin' that field, baby!
You want food tomorrow, you better work!
chop chop, up at sunup, go to bed, go to bed three or four hours after sundown,
after you've finished all your work.
And if that's what you're into, some people really are into that.
But it's like, people just need to experience hard work.
Because like I told you, I had friends who did, and they immediately were like,
wow, I like being American.
I like cheap Chinese plastic crap.
I don't want to work.
These people, I'll tell you what, man, in New York City, now they're moving out because these jobs are remote.
Could you imagine what it must be like to work at BuzzFeed?
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
Listen.
adam crigler
I would never.
tim pool
When I was 18, I got a job at American Eagle Airlines, which is American Airlines' regional branch.
And it was eight hours a day, lifting like 30 to 50,000 pounds of luggage.
All day, every day, just loading up, you know, planes.
Or if you're in the bag room, everybody hated that.
It wasn't so bad, actually.
The reason people don't like the bag room is because you sit in front of a conveyor belt, watching bags, and you have like a certain zone.
So you're like these cities, you have to grab their bags, load them up.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And so it actually wasn't that bad because sometimes you'd sit around doing nothing.
When you're loading planes, however, planes come in every like 40 minutes.
adam crigler
Right, so you're constantly going to a different spot.
tim pool
No, no, no.
When the planes are coming in 40 minutes, you have actually like a 15-minute break in between.
adam crigler
Oh, alright.
tim pool
You know, like a 20-minute break.
So, I do this job.
Hard work all day, every day.
The first time I saw a news office, I just busted out laughing.
Laughing!
I walk in, half the chairs are empty, and I'm like, oh wow, a lot of empty chairs.
Oh, no, they're still working from home.
And I'm like, working from home.
Yeah.
Do they have to come in?
I mean, you know, we like it when they do, but not really.
What do they do?
unidentified
They just do clickbait stuff.
tim pool
A couple articles per day.
Like, what is, you know, so this person does our music blog.
They would write like, I just, you know what Vice articles are like.
adam crigler
Oh yeah.
tim pool
It's like, I listened, I smoked a bunch of weed and then listened to this old Sublime album and dude, it was crazy.
And they would just write like this.
adam crigler
Period.
tim pool
The end.
And I'm like, you know how much they got paid?
At Vice?
Like 30k.
adam crigler
A year.
tim pool
Which was double what you would make lifting heavy bags.
But I'll tell you what, some of these companies, it's like, you write listicles about Brad Pitt's junk.
Like, look at all these bulges!
Here's a list!
And they're getting paid 30, 40k a year.
I'm not gonna pretend like it's a lot of money for New York City, but relative to somebody making minimum wage lifting heavy bags, I couldn't help but bust out laughing.
This is what you consider work?
Wow!
And I'll tell you what, man.
I work for these companies.
Like, I gotta be real, they have no idea what they're doing.
Half the time they're sitting around, doing nothing.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Not even, they're just sitting there.
And I'm like, what are you doing?
I don't know.
You gonna write?
adam crigler
I'll tell you what I am doing.
I'm getting paid.
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
Yup.
On salary.
Ugh.
That sounds boring.
That's a crazy thing about the media industry.
That when they fall apart and they fire everybody, you wonder why.
It's like these people aren't producing things.
It's not real.
It's not.
It's not real, man.
adam crigler
The media bubble, it does feel like it's crumbling.
tim pool
Here's my solution.
I've figured it out, everybody.
I've figured out a way to save the news industry.
I'm going to recreate the vice office, but instead of people sitting around confused at the time, I'm going to make them make birdhouses.
They're going to be building birdhouses instead of sitting around doing nothing.
Hear me out.
We sell the birdhouses and make a profit.
And then of course, whenever they have time, they can write one of their stupid articles about smoking pot and listening to Sublime or something.
No downtime!
If you're not reading the news, you're building a birdhouse!
You got that?
adam crigler
It's pretty good.
tim pool
There you go.
We sell those birdhouses online.
Maybe we can do like knitting.
Crochet and stuff.
Make scarves.
We'll make beanies!
adam crigler
Whatever you're good at.
tim pool
Everybody must be making beanies.
adam crigler
I like this idea.
The beanie idea.
tim pool
You must be manufacturing.
To be fair though, my vision of a functioning media company would be literally, everything you do is work.
And so this is actually something they tried doing with Vice but never took off.
Where it was like, when we would go out on documentary shoots for say, oh we're going to a riot.
We went to Ukraine.
And they asked, can you film other things with your downtime?
Like, you gotta eat right?
Can you film yourselves eating?
Hey, we're in Ukraine, and they just served us up some cabbage.
adam crigler
And we're gonna eat Ukraine cabbage.
Look how excited we are!
tim pool
Boom, article.
No, not an article, a video.
adam crigler
Oh, a video, yeah.
tim pool
Because then you can make really quick videos where, like, here's what food is like in this place.
It's actually really clever.
lydia smith
That's a good point.
tim pool
Never did it.
But it was a good idea.
adam crigler
Can you always be working?
tim pool
Yeah, but they actually did a show that people really loved about food.
I can't remember what the guy's name was.
Action Bronson or something?
Was that his name?
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
And he did a food thing?
adam crigler
Yeah, I think he did a food show.
tim pool
Yeah, and everyone really loved it, I guess.
adam crigler
He's pretty funny.
tim pool
Yeah, man, but... Wow.
Such little work in that city of New York City.
adam crigler
I'd rather do that.
You want to hire me to do that?
I'll fly around and find all the crazy food.
tim pool
Oh, you want to quit the podcast?
No.
But we will.
When we expand, we're going to do silly food stuff and skateboarding and whatever.
But I'll tell you what, we have a serious problem in this country with the general balance of wealth and labor.
I think that's actually a fact.
I'm pretty left when it comes to the wealth inequality stuff.
There's a lot of things that I think are strange that conservatives would support or that liberals would support that are probably contradictory.
There are wealth inequality problems in this country.
The easiest way to put it is, why is someone getting paid three times as much to write about Brad Pitt's junk compared to someone who actually will build or fix something?
Good point.
I tell you man, look, when you're like running your own business, doing like carpentry or plumbing or some kind of actual trade, you'll make good money.
But why is a senior editor who sits at a computer collecting articles from other people and then just reads them and says, I'm going to publish this, getting paid more.
They're not making anything.
We could literally just delete all of these companies.
We'd be better off for it.
adam crigler
Probably.
tim pool
Look, some news, a lot of, we need news.
We need real journalism.
What we don't need are these trash blogs, you know, like BuzzFeed and Vox.
lydia smith
BuzzFeed springs to mind.
tim pool
Yeah, BuzzFeed.
How do we rebalance that?
You know, when I was little, I always agreed that it's crazy that baseball players, that, you know, basketball players get paid all this money and scientists and tradesmen and firefighters don't.
And that's like a common lefty kind of perspective.
adam crigler
What is that?
There's a CEO that gave up his salary to take like a crazy cut.
Do you know who I'm talking about?
lydia smith
Super stressful.
adam crigler
I don't remember who it is.
tim pool
It was a company in Seattle, right?
adam crigler
He was talking about it.
He was like, look, my company wouldn't exist without the workers, so I'm going to pay myself significantly less and all of that would go.
What, it's not real?
tim pool
I have to pull it back up, but I'm pretty sure it was because people don't understand how businesses work.
I'm not going to say anything specific about this guy because I don't know the specific guy you're referencing, but I think I do.
Let me just tell you something.
When you own a corporation, you can say, I'm going to reduce my salary to, you know, $50,000 a year to be the same as the people.
Accountant?
Yes, just issue it all as profits at the end of the year.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So you can publicly announce your salary is being reduced.
Right.
I'm not saying that.
Like, look, if you work, if you get a job at a company and they're like, what's your salary requirement?
You say $50,000 a year and they say you're hired.
And then you're like, but it turns out the CEO makes $5 million.
That's too bad.
That's his company, you don't gotta work there.
What I mean is, why is a person literally writing about, you know, going to a rave and taking acid and then passing out in the bathroom and getting paid more, or at least the same as, a dude who literally builds houses?
Like, if you are the lowest tier apprentice, you know, showing up and being like, I have no idea how this works, but I can carry tools for you, you deserve more than someone who's like, I saw Brad Pitt's junk today, he was popping out in a tabloid magazine, and here's a list of all the times a celebrity's junk has appeared.
Why are you getting paid for that?
adam crigler
Why do people care about that?
tim pool
Well, that's what I was going to say.
To be fair, people care.
And people are more willing to essentially buy or cater to those products,
and that's why they make so much money.
But I kind of feel like there's something wrong with that.
And I don't know if you can actually solve it.
Because then we get into the conversation about capitalism, you know, free market versus controlled or command economy.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But it does bum me out that it's part of the conversation we've had before that if humans ever shake hands with aliens, it'll be not because they overcame nuclear weapons, but because they overcame the Xbox.
adam crigler
PlayStation would be more accurate.
tim pool
Right, considering, you know.
But at the time, when the quote was said, Xbox was up there, you know, like, hey, everybody's got an Xbox.
But no, but it is true, man.
It bums me out that we allocate so much of our energy as humans to dumb nonsense.
adam crigler
It's true.
tim pool
I don't know how you solve that though, because free will, individuality.
That's why we need a space race.
That's why we need Trump's, what's the Artemis project?
That's why Elon Musk, and then going from the moon to Mars.
Because we need to inspire a culture to look beyond writing stories about doing drugs at a rave.
adam crigler
Yeah, everyone's so complacent in this world that we live in right now.
That's an issue too.
People are comfortable and then are so comfortable they're forgetting what it's like to not be comfortable.
They're forgetting what it's like to not have all these amazing amenities that this world now offers us to everyone.
Most people.
You need water?
Go get some water.
In some states, it's illegal to say no to someone who's asking for water.
I'm talking about Arizona, specifically.
There's probably other places, you know, maybe Texas, you know, somewhere along the south.
tim pool
You said it was illegal to ask for water?
adam crigler
No, no, no.
To deny someone water.
Like, if you walk in and say, oh, water, I need water, it's like, okay, here you go.
tim pool
They have to give it to you.
adam crigler
They have to give it to anyone.
tim pool
Because in a place like Arizona, you could really die.
adam crigler
Yep, you could.
tim pool
I just had a terrifying thought.
adam crigler
What's that?
tim pool
What if the simulation is already over?
adam crigler
And now it's just running its course?
The credits are rolling?
tim pool
And that's why everything's getting crazy, right?
adam crigler
Yeah, maybe.
tim pool
Have you played Civilization?
adam crigler
I haven't, no.
tim pool
So, in Civilization, there's multiple ways to get a victory.
For those that aren't familiar, it's a video game where you literally start from, like, you know, nomadic tribes and then develop technology and then eventually you have these big civilizations and you go to war or whatever.
There's several ways to win.
There's like a space race victory where you can go and colonize other planets.
adam crigler
Cool.
tim pool
Cultural victory where you become the dominant culture of the planet.
War victory by just blowing everybody up and taking over their land.
But once you beat the game, you can choose to just keep playing anyway.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And then the game objective is done, and you're just doing whatever.
adam crigler
So that's where you think we are?
tim pool
Yeah, maybe this simulation ended a long time ago.
You know what I was thinking about?
Why was there a space race in the 60s?
What was the motivation of the United States to say, we must be better than the Soviets, that we don't have any of that today?
adam crigler
Honestly, it was just fear, because...
The American public thought that because they were in space, they could spy on us from space.
So it was laced with fear of them being able to, you know, shoot us from the stars, essentially, you know?
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
And that's what spawned it into... So, you know, it was pretty much fear that led it into the new space race.
tim pool
So how have we come to this point where everyone feels like they've beaten the game?
Where it's like you've got nothing to do, you're bored, you're angry.
There's no fear.
You've got food, you've got video games.
adam crigler
There's no purpose.
tim pool
You've got whatever you want at the tip of your fingers.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
No fear, to be honest.
I think that's a good point.
We were concerned for our safety.
adam crigler
Yep, that's why.
tim pool
Our security wasn't guaranteed.
We had to strive to be better, to protect ourselves.
Now we don't.
adam crigler
Well that's why I want to talk about Chicxulub, and if you don't know what that is, that is the asteroid that destroyed the dinosaurs.
There's a layer of molten material all around the world from the same time period, and that's because it struck the planet and killed 99% of life on this planet.
That can happen!
We see, like, there's a comet flying by right now.
If it's nighttime where you are, go outside and look.
It's cool.
NEO, what is it called?
NEO something?
I don't remember.
tim pool
I don't know, but we talked about the news of the flybys.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Where, like, the orbit gets really close and it's like, woo!
adam crigler
It's like, you know, everyone's so desensitized by Armageddon, the movie, whatever, however many other... Deep Impact.
Deep Impact.
tim pool
Yeah, they make clone movies.
adam crigler
Oh, yeah, yeah, sure.
Whatever.
It's just movies.
And it's like, well, yeah, well, that could actually happen.
We are flying through... Our sun isn't sitting in one spot.
It's flying.
It's flying through space.
We are traveling around a traveling star.
So we don't know if there's a rock out there that's just floating, that's going to enter our solar system and run into our planet.
There was, um, ow-mow-now-mow or something.
tim pool
Ow-mow-mow or whatever?
adam crigler
Ow-mow-mow.
Yeah, that was an interstellar object that entered our solar system, orbited around the sun one time, and dipped out.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
I mean, we got lucky.
unidentified
That's scary.
adam crigler
It didn't hit us.
But those kind of things exist.
So that could happen.
I'm not trying to, like, instill fear, but it is something that we need.
That's why I love space.
Space is something we don't think about as much anymore, but it's out there, like, the immensity of what space is.
tim pool
So we need a meteor false flag.
adam crigler
I mean, I guess, you know, sure.
tim pool
We need an announcement where it's like, There's a meteor in the sky and we've got five years to build interplanetary defense.
And then everyone comes together and then it's like, you know, Independence Day.
We will not go quiet.
adam crigler
Yeah, maybe.
It's not going to be aliens, though.
It's going to be a meteor.
I feel like that's the largest threat to the planet.
You know, always, at all times.
tim pool
Climate change didn't work, though.
adam crigler
Because we are floating through space.
It's like people stopped thinking about it because it's just, you know, movies, whatnot.
tim pool
They tried climate change.
We just had a pandemic and that couldn't even do it.
lydia smith
So we used to have fear behind us and a family ahead of us.
Now they're taking our families and there's no fear behind us.
unidentified
What are we doing?
tim pool
That's a good point.
Maybe it's because we have no families.
adam crigler
No fear, no families.
Great.
tim pool
Think about it.
The fear is gone.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
For some reason, that even though we're watching in California, they're forcefully injecting hormones into this kid, people are still saying, well, you know, I'm worried about my kid, so I'll just do nothing.
No, but for real, like, aren't you scared for your children?
lydia smith
I would be.
tim pool
People aren't.
They're like, well, I am in the sense that I could lose my job, but not in the sense that the future is going to be a nightmarish, dystopian hellhole that I'm okay with.
There's no fear about what you leave for your children.
Why not?
adam crigler
Because we're taught to worry about yourself.
That's what we are told.
You can be anything.
You're a star.
You can do whatever you want.
Move out of your family home.
Get your own place.
If you still live with your parents, you're not an adult yet.
You know, you gotta live on your own, you gotta be your own person.
So it's like the community of how humans have gotten to where we are is being lost.
tim pool
I feel like when you raise people to be self-centered, but they still have their natural instinct to protect their kids, you get what we have today.
No real fear for the future their children will inherit, but a general fear for their immediate safety.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
lydia smith
It's dread of the present.
tim pool
If we were scared that, like, what if the Soviets build a satellite that could launch, you know, what do they call it?
Rods from God?
The Tungsten Rods.
adam crigler
Tungsten Rods.
tim pool
Baltimore City, and then everybody dies.
And that scared them and said, we must defend ourselves.
But today, they're like, what if these people literally inject my children with hormones and then arrest them for saying naughty words?
Well, you know, I don't know.
We're not gonna say anything.
adam crigler
Or like the... I hate bringing this list up, but it's on that list that said... Well, we have the story.
The media is still... Oh, this... Oh, this... They're talking about it, aren't they?
tim pool
This is the... Yeah, calling out white culture.
Calling out the biased training people as racist.
adam crigler
Well, I guess, but before we get to that, I just wanted to say on that list that I guess we're about to talk about, it says delayed gratification is something that they're damning.
tim pool
Abolish.
adam crigler
It's a bad thing.
It's like, that is exactly the problem.
If it's just instant gratification, you're not getting anything.
You're not doing anything.
You're just, that's, you know, that's playing, you know, the worst games just, you know, It in every aspect of your life just to get it get it now instead of thinking about your children Why do you think all these people who have a lot of money that the travel?
I'm bringing up the Trump thing about how his grant his dad It's like furthered this thing and it's like sure generational wealth Well, if you are thinking and jealous of generational wealth start the generation Delayed gratification is knowing that your grandchild is gonna be better off because of what you're doing right now Society grows great When people plant trees whose shade they know they will never sit in.
Where's that from?
tim pool
I think it's a Greek proverb.
Is it Greek?
adam crigler
It could be more true though.
tim pool
Yeah, but nobody believes it anymore.
adam crigler
Right, because we're comfortable.
tim pool
No, but I think because we've been raised to be selfish.
adam crigler
Yep.
Man, think about how... Comfortable and selfish.
tim pool
It used to be all for the kids.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Now it's all like, I guess I have kids.
adam crigler
Whatever.
lydia smith
Well, there's a compelling argument to be made that the reason that we're so selfish is because our parents worked their butts off so that we could have the best life ever.
Like, literally the best life that anyone's ever had.
That was our parents' goal.
That was their parents' goal.
After World War II, they came back and they were like, we have to make life really good for our kids.
tim pool
That's what I'm saying.
We won.
We beat the game.
lydia smith
They nailed it.
Yeah, man.
They did.
adam crigler
I know my dad worked his butt off to raise me.
tim pool
We beat the game.
The last two generations ago was when the game screen popped up and says, congratulations, you've won.
You've created the best possible life for your children, would you like to keep playing anyway?
adam crigler
And they just set the controller down and went outside.
tim pool
And they pressed autoplay and were like, hey I'm gonna go.
adam crigler
I don't really care.
tim pool
You ever see that story about the dude who left, he had like a civilization game from like, it was running for like 20 years or something?
There was a really funny story.
It was like Civilization II from the 90s.
Okay.
And apparently he had been playing the game for 20 years and it was a post-apocalyptic wasteland of constant nuclear bombs going off.
adam crigler
Oh man.
tim pool
Because people would just... The war could never end because the hatred ran so deep.
And every time they nuked a city, the nuclear waves would make it impossible to recover.
But then they would all just build another nuke and then nuke each other and it was just a... The year was like 20,000 and it was a nightmarish...
What if that's where we're going, man?
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
We beat the game.
We did it.
We've got the best lives.
We got instant communication, we got running water, clean water.
Now, not for the rest of the world, but in America.
adam crigler
Yeah, the universe is out there.
The entire universe.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
adam crigler
We're a pale blue dot.
Thank you, Carl Sagan.
People need to watch him.
People need to know their history.
They got to know what we've been through.
tim pool
We need an energy revolution.
adam crigler
It's happening.
tim pool
What's the latest?
Solid-state batteries?
adam crigler
Well, that is actually an amazing innovation that has happened.
tim pool
That's going to change the game.
adam crigler
It is, yeah.
tim pool
I think it allows... They don't degrade.
adam crigler
That's the key.
tim pool
Exactly.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's the key.
tim pool
And they don't blow up.
adam crigler
And they don't blow up, exactly.
Those two things are fairly important.
Incredibly, who are we kidding?
It's incredible.
tim pool
But I mean, it's not necessarily enough for the energy output we would need for like, the current level of, you know, Well, there's, um, graphene is another big thing that they just figured out.
adam crigler
Me and Ian talk about it a bunch.
It's, uh, we can basically take any carbon based anything and turn it into graphene and graphene can be used for everything.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
It's an incredible, we, we, we have it on a very small scale right now, but eventually we can, we're going to have to go dig up our trash from dumps and, and be able to, we're going to be able to use it to make more graphene.
And that's incredible.
lydia smith
That's so cool.
adam crigler
So that's something that we're going to be able to do.
So that's a change.
And we're going to need that for space travel.
Think about all the trash, whatever we come up with, we can make graphene out of it and then use that graphene as more stuff.
tim pool
Hey look, we had that plague.
What year was the plague?
adam crigler
1918?
What are you talking about?
tim pool
No, no, no, the literal plague, the Black Plague.
lydia smith
Oh gosh, that was like 1300 years ago?
tim pool
But after that followed the Renaissance or something, didn't it?
Like, you have this level of technology, but everybody is, you know, straining for resources.
Then a large portion of the population dies because of the plague, but the level of technology remains, so then everybody flourishes and grows rapidly again.
It's kind of like breathing, it's like whoosh!
adam crigler
Well, that's why that's why Elon wants to occupy Mars, because we need we need to expand or that will happen naturally.
And that that's I agree with him.
We we we absolutely Mars.
tim pool
Mars doesn't have a magnetic field, and I don't think it has the gravity to maintain an atmosphere.
adam crigler
It doesn't matter.
tim pool
We do domes.
adam crigler
We have to figure out a way to move on.
We have to.
tim pool
For sure.
adam crigler
For sure.
We we we must.
tim pool
Maybe we just underground subterranean.
Maybe we you know, we do.
You know, the movie.
Have you ever seen Red Planet?
adam crigler
Uh, Val Kilmer?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, the first people to go to Mars.
I don't remember it.
adam crigler
I saw it when it first came out, I think.
tim pool
The robot turns evil or something.
So, you know what we need to do?
We need to combine the movie The Core.
Was that Bruce Willis in The Core?
adam crigler
I don't remember either.
tim pool
The... who was it?
I don't know.
adam crigler
They have to like restart the Earth's core or something?
Yes.
tim pool
So here's what we do.
Alright.
We take the actors from the movie Deep Impact and the actors from the core and we bring
them together and they go to Mars and they kickstart the core...
I'm just kidding.
I don't know how you would actually do it.
adam crigler
I don't even know if it makes sense.
unidentified
No, no, no.
adam crigler
First, you've got to defund Hollywood and make it more inspiring for kids to want to be the scientists that come up with the answers.
tim pool
Well, Hollywood's a great tool for that.
adam crigler
I know, but it's not being used correctly.
tim pool
Exactly.
adam crigler
So what we need is people want to be actors.
People want to be influencers.
They want to be TikTok stars, YouTubers, like that is not helping anything.
That's them thinking they are superstars, which is what they've been taught.
That's what they've been taught.
It's I'm a superstar, so I should be able to do and be famous.
And it's like, OK, well, you got to you got to have a reason that people are going to want to watch you.
If you don't if you don't fill yourself with something to give to these people, you're nothing.
So you gotta make something of yourself first, and they're ignoring that fact.
tim pool
Look at who succeeded in this open environment, pranksters.
adam crigler
I can't name one prankster.
tim pool
I can name... I'm not gonna personally call them out.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
But there are a lot of high-profile prank channels.
A lot of videos were getting views by... And are they still famous?
They got banned.
adam crigler
Oh.
tim pool
Because YouTube was like, yo, this is... When left to their own devices, people were like, I'm gonna make a video where I go around saying racial slurs.
adam crigler
And then they just one-up each other.
And it was working.
tim pool
Exactly.
adam crigler
One-up each other.
tim pool
So there was a series of videos where they would go around saying certain things that sound like racial slurs when said quickly enough.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
like hello my neighbor.
Okay.
But they would say it really, really fast.
Oh I see.
And then people would be like, what did you say to me?
adam crigler
I got a teacher that got really mad at me because I said, what the, hello teacher.
And they were like, how dare you?
And then took me to the principal's office.
The principal was like, get out of here.
Like, what are you talking about?
I was like 11 or something.
tim pool
What, this is why I'm not a laissez-faire capitalist.
But I don't think I would ever, I think the answer is something like,
can we come together to fund movies that inspire people.
I mean, like Interstellar was awesome.
adam crigler
I agree.
tim pool
Great movie.
We need more cultural cohesion around doing better.
But you know what one of the problems is?
This critical race theory stuff thinks that science is evil whiteness that must be abolished.
adam crigler
Also crazy.
tim pool
When Elon Musk launched that car into space, they were like, look how crazy these billionaires are.
adam crigler
What a waste.
tim pool
He could have, you know, given people health care or something.
And it's like, you realize that money was spent on Earth.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
People have jobs.
They paid taxes.
adam crigler
And they needed to have weight.
tim pool
He was trying to do something cool and inspirational.
adam crigler
No, before they decided to do that, it was because they needed to have weight to payload that the rocket would work.
So he was like, oh, well, I'll put a star, a car out there.
And you know what it did?
It did inspire a bunch of kids to get into space programs, which Trump brought back.
The Artemis program.
It's incredible stuff.
He gave them back their funding, and I love that.
tim pool
What did the Obama administration think was going to happen?
We were going to create a consumerist humanity that just loves plastic?
adam crigler
I yeah.
tim pool
Plastic crap.
Yeah, I don't know what that cheap plastic crap would put a clock in it.
Made in China.
Yeah, we need something better.
Yeah, we need a mission.
And right now the mission is this weird religion, intersectionalism.
Right.
Yeah, man.
Well, if we don't if we don't get on top of that, what's going to happen to us in 20 years?
We're just a bunch of like sunken eyed, gaunt, angry antifa intersectionalists with shaved heads.
adam crigler
I don't think that disease is spreading as far as it may seem.
tim pool
Well, now that the media is slowly getting on board with calling it out as literal white supremacy, perhaps it'll be better.
But dude, it's in the army, it's in the federal government, it's in every school, it's in every grade school.
Dude, I was out for a Christmas dinner, a Christmas breakfast with my family.
And I was talking to my mom and my sister about that Equity comic where it shows three people standing in front of a fence.
You know that one?
If those are not familiar, it's like there's a tall guy, a medium guy, and a short guy.
And the tall guy and the medium guy can see, and the short guy can't.
And they said, in equality, everybody gets a crate.
Well, the tall guy and the medium guy don't need a crate.
In equity, they give two crates to the short guy so he can see now too.
And I was talking about it and I was explaining why it doesn't make sense and why it's a manipulation.
And my niece, who's like eight, she goes, they show us that in school.
And I was like, they do?
And she was like, yeah.
And I was like, this specific image?
And she goes, yeah, they taught us about it.
And I was like, oh man.
That is indoctrination to a religion.
What I explained was...
It's very simple to quantify the idea of equity when you're looking at a fence with crates.
But now there's like 50 different versions of this stupid comic explaining what real justice is.
And I said, how do you determine, how do you quantify access and privilege when you're judging people based on like 200,000 different immutable characteristics?
Are blue eyes better than brown eyes?
What if you have crooked teeth?
What if you have blonde hair?
What if you dyed your hair?
What if you personally choose to do something?
There's no way to quantify that.
And so I was talking to my family about it, but she's being indoctrinated by her teachers to believe this critical race theory stuff.
Equity.
So yeah, it's pervasive.
adam crigler
Yeah, and then why would anyone want to be like a, who knows, like any sort of a job if it pays the same as everyone else?
You know, why would I do that when I could just do the easier job?
I'll just do the easy job.
That's the problem with socialism.
Everyone's just going to want to do the easy job.
No one's going to want to do the hard job.
lydia smith
Yep.
adam crigler
And if everything pays the same, all the hard jobs won't get done anymore.
And then society will fall apart.
So there needs to be an aspect.
And they're not thinking about that.
But that's the problem.
Always.
They're not thinking about it.
They're ignorant of the facts of what is actually going on.
tim pool
I think a mixed economy makes the most sense.
I do believe... And that's what we are, aren't we?
We are.
I do think a lot of people are not... They're not motivated by money.
Some people are motivated by money and they take jobs where they manipulate money to make money.
I'm not a fan.
But when it comes to the ability to hand someone cash and take it back, well that exists.
People are going to be able to exploit that.
I do think it's possible to create a culture where people are motivated by passion and success for their mission, less so money.
adam crigler
It exists.
tim pool
Because at a certain point, I know people who make a ton of money who literally don't care.
Because they're like, my mission is I gotta build this thing.
Like, I'm sure Elon Musk isn't focused.
Elon Musk isn't thinking like, how can I make a billion dollars?
He's thinking, how can I get to Mars?
adam crigler
How can I occupy Mars?
tim pool
Exactly.
adam crigler
He's very blunt about it.
tim pool
However, Elon Musk is a man with a mission.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
And vision.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
And he worked really, really hard to make this money and succeed and now he can do it.
If you create a society where everybody gets paid the same, like in communism, how would you get the visionaries like Elon Musk to actually be in that position to fund a rocket mission?
lydia smith
Well, on an even more basic level than that, why would you study so hard as to become something like a doctor?
Well, why would you want to do something that's really hard and has a really high I don't agree with that.
adam crigler
Well, that's...
No, she makes a good point, though.
That's the inverse, though.
That is the person who wants to learn how to save people, so they're going to push themselves
to become a doctor so that that's what they're doing.
Even if they're getting paid the same, they're still...
They have the benefit of getting, you know...
tim pool
The reason why people...
adam crigler
The love of saving someone.
tim pool
The reason why people would want to do a job, even if it was harder to get to that job's position, is because they're passionate about being a doctor.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Like, I always wanted to be a doctor.
I'll do whatever it takes.
adam crigler
But that's great and all.
Being a doctor, like, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
Sure.
But that still doesn't take away the fact that there's all the jobs that... Who's going to be the garbage guy?
Right.
I say garbage guy.
The garbage human.
tim pool
You know what you're going to do?
adam crigler
Garbage person.
The garbage person.
tim pool
It's really simple.
And this is what really, really bothers me about you capitalists.
In our communist utopia, when we need someone to take out the trash and be the garbage man, I just pull out my Glock and I point at them and say, get on your knees and take the trash out!
Otherwise, to the gulag with you!
Problem solved.
Then we have our utopia.
And once we force people to do the jobs that no one else wants to do, there will be peace.
lydia smith
Utopia.
tim pool
You see, that's the issue.
In a capitalist system, people say, I don't want to take the trash out.
And then you go, I'll give you a hundred bucks, and they'll go, I'll take the trash out.
lydia smith
There you go.
adam crigler
Boom.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Incentive.
tim pool
Exactly.
That's why I think a mixed economy makes sense.
That's why communism just will never work.
Because you need a gun.
adam crigler
And there's always going to be the person that thinks that they don't need to do that.
That they're the ones who knows how to do everything better, how to fix it all, or, you know, organize and manage.
Actually, Uh, John over there, he's the best at taking the trash out.
So John's gonna be the trash guy now.
tim pool
You know what I hear pays a ton of money?
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
Crime scene cleanup.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, you know why?
adam crigler
I, cause it's hard to get blood out maybe?
tim pool
Brain matter and skull bits.
Yeah, that's why.
And you're gonna be on the ground being like, let me try and get this bit of brain fragment out of the carpet unless it's tough.
adam crigler
Gross.
tim pool
Crime scene cleanup pays a lot.
Huh.
I wouldn't want to do that.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Everything.
adam crigler
Everything releases.
I wouldn't want to do that.
tim pool
Dude, people have no idea what it's like, a dead body.
You know, you know, you know what happens when you die, right?
adam crigler
Yes.
tim pool
Brigham Mortis.
No.
When all the smooth muscle just relaxes, you void your bowels.
So then they bring in these people who have these kits and full hazmat suits and you get
paid a pretty penny because nobody wants to do it unless you get paid good enough.
I remember when I was a lot younger, there was an advertisement for it saying it was like $100, $150 an hour.
Because that's what you gotta pay when you get someone to come in and clean up.
adam crigler
A corpse!
Yeah.
tim pool
And you gotta, yeah man.
So that's, at least people are willing, you know, are willing to do it because they feel like they'll be rewarded for it.
But in the communist system, I really don't believe you'll have an easy time finding someone passionate about waiting around in sewers.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Reminds me of Waterworld.
Remember that guy who was in the oil tank?
adam crigler
Yeah, he's one of my favorites.
tim pool
So in the movie Waterworld, They have an oil tanker, and there's a guy who tests his job by just telling him how much oil they have.
So he's just in a little boat, in oil.
adam crigler
Yeah, in the oil tanker.
tim pool
And then, when he calls for help, the guy spits on him and he goes, thank you!
Like, good luck finding somebody who's gonna do this job.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
We gotta read Super Chats.
adam crigler
Okay.
lydia smith
Yes, it's time.
tim pool
We got a super chat here from commander 232.
He says, Adam, much respect to you for grinding the research.
I get inundated with text every day from work with updates because I am an FPS officer.
So I know you I so I know how you feel.
And so I want to give up give up some days but I can't because I also serve in the army and the oath I swore.
adam crigler
Thank you for that, and thank you for serving.
tim pool
Right on.
adam crigler
Appreciate that.
tim pool
Xander says, dude, I smoked a bunch of weed and listening to Timcast IRL and it's crazy.
unidentified
Spoofo!
tim pool
He said spoofo.
adam crigler
I get it.
Spoofo.
I speak that language.
tim pool
AlphaZeroOmega says, Been following Tim since around the Milo fiasco at Berkeley.
He is a fine example of where hard work and dedication can get you in a free country.
I appreciate all of you, and I'm glad that you are committed to doing what you do.
Power to you.
Thank you very much, good sir, for supporting the channel.
VillaMusicDude, oh this is two of two, so we got, where's one of two?
It didn't pop up, huh?
Two of two.
Alright, I guess we'll have to find it.
That's gonna be difficult.
YouTube does it sometimes.
Alright, we'll come back to this.
DeplorablePyroCaptainGunbeard says, Dear commies of all genders, red, yellow, black, white, you all have the same vital hit points.
Isn't equality grand?
Thank you very much.
You know what I forgot to say?
If you haven't already, and you want to jump in some super chats, feel free to do so.
We'll try to read them as we can.
But also, Adam?
adam crigler
I'm rather subdued right now.
It's been a heavy episode.
It's been a heavy day for me.
tim pool
You want me to yell?
adam crigler
Yeah, you do it.
Smash the like button.
lydia smith
That's pretty good.
adam crigler
That wasn't even a yell.
That was like a growl.
A rock growl.
tim pool
Smash the like button!
adam crigler
But in all honesty though, smash the like button.
Do it for me.
Do it for me.
Do it for Lydia over there.
lydia smith
That's right.
adam crigler
Do it for Tim.
lydia smith
I appreciate it.
adam crigler
Do it for all three of us.
Do it for yourself.
lydia smith
Make you feel good.
adam crigler
You owe yourself a smash.
tim pool
Well, you should all Biden the like button.
adam crigler
That's right.
tim pool
Come up right behind it.
Put your arms around that like button.
lydia smith
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
Get a nice little sniff.
lydia smith
Inhale deeply.
tim pool
Joe Biden.
lydia smith
Bidening the UFO there.
tim pool
Bidening the UFO here.
All right, let's see.
Wugnutman has put in a request already to play Melancholy Hellhounds.
adam crigler
Oh.
lydia smith
Oh, wow.
adam crigler
We have an official request.
lydia smith
First request, yeah.
adam crigler
That's cool.
lydia smith
That one's good.
adam crigler
I'll play it.
I'm going to do it.
He requested it.
I'll play it.
That'll be the first thing I play.
tim pool
TalksToMunch says, You should invite Andrew Schultz from the Brilliant Idiots podcast onto the show, or consider going on his podcast.
I think there's a lot of topics you could discuss, and it could be a great conversation.
That dude is hilarious!
Joseph Spiro says, Tim keeps saying anyone can start standing up against what's going on, saying if everyone stood up at the same time that it'd have an impact.
Only influential leaders can synchronize behavior like that.
You are correct, which is why it requires a cultural movement of people just deciding right now, no matter what, no matter what I risk, no matter what I lose, I will stand up.
Remember when Trump tweeted khafifi?
And you know what people claimed it meant?
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
I will stand!
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
That's what they were claiming in there.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
So weird.
tim pool
They were like, it's actually Arabic for, I will stand.
And it was supposedly saying something like, despite the negative press... Coverage?
No, no, no.
I thought.
They were claiming that Covfefe was Arabic for, I will stand.
And that what Trump was saying is, despite the negative press, I will stand.
unidentified
Oh, that's right.
tim pool
And it was like the stupidest thing I'd ever heard.
The dude mashed some buttons on accident and accidentally pressed send.
That's what happened.
adam crigler
And then he's like, oh, I like that.
unidentified
I'll keep that.
tim pool
And then when everyone went nuts on Covfefe, he rolled with it and it was hilarious.
adam crigler
Yep.
But anyway, we got a large super chat here from Drew38.
He says, hey guys, Tim's part Asian, just in case you didn't know.
tim pool
Oh, I did.
I did just hear that.
Is that confirmed?
lydia smith
Oh, no, I need to double check that.
I need a news guarded source on that.
tim pool
News guarded source.
lydia smith
I'll take a news guard for that.
tim pool
QuietGuitaristFan says, haven't superchatted in a while.
Here's a cool 50 for your troubles.
Recently started getting into the Naked Communist.
Talks a lot, talks a lot about the methods of Marxists and Socialists.
Interesting read.
Hope y'all are great.
Smash the like button.
Smash it.
Will do.
Chad Jensen says, you are doing the Lord's work.
You are a warrior, Tim.
Thank you very much.
Nathan Trimmingham says, hey y'all, I'm looking into getting a longboard, but I'm 6'4 and 300 pounds.
Any suggestions?
adam crigler
Well, the first thing I would always say is go to a store that sells longboards and try them all out, but because that's not really the case that you can do right now, it would depend on your budget.
Just look up longboards.
Get a wide base, a longer wheelbase.
You don't want to get a small board.
You know, you're clearly a big, big person.
You just want, you want to be comfortable on the board.
It's easier to find your balance on a skateboard, long board
if it's a significantly longer board.
So get something with a long wheelbase and that'll make it much easier.
And some, some wide, you know, where you probably have a large shoe size.
So it's easier to get your, your base on a bigger board.
tim pool
Arts Theo says, as a Cuban immigrant, I'd really hate for my family and I to
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
jumped out of the frying pan into the fire. Let me know if you want me to take
a couple of libs on a real tour of Cuba.
People still don't have running water there. Yeah, people don't know anything
about what life is like outside of this country.
I mean, obviously people do. I mean these specific people.
adam crigler
Yeah, they clearly don't.
tim pool
Xander Klein says, dude... oh yeah, I read that one.
That was a good one.
Alright, let's see what we got here.
Solarth says, anything, including labor, is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.
What someone deserves is completely subjective.
I agree, I agree.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
VillaMusicDude says, one, let the free market do what it is supposed to do.
Stop bailing everyone out.
Let debt liquidate.
Return to commodity currency so government is forced to reduce spending.
Remove price floors and ceilings.
Those are solid.
And then he says, let demand do what it's supposed to do.
Sound money, not fiat.
Increased purchasing power, short terms of capitalism are painful, but when you increase
debt you pull away resources that would help recover it faster to non-productive sectors
prolonging pain.
adam crigler
Those are solid.
Yeah, I hear you.
That makes a lot of sense.
tim pool
Space Monkey says, brave new world, that's their vision.
Just like that.
Yikes, man.
I look into that, cool.
Graham Hancock and many others have discussed the Taurid meteor belt.
We passed through it twice a year, June and November I believe.
Tunguska in 1908, possibly what hit Greenland 12,000 something years ago that caused the
Younger Dryas also.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Yikes man.
adam crigler
I look into that, cool.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Ashley Torres says Antifa equals terrorists.
They're under federal and military jurisdiction.
Special forces detain terrorists by intel.
Cyber Command slash NSA then give military tribunals.
Terrorists forfeit constitutional rights in due process.
Domestic terrorists don't have American peers.
I think the issue with domestic terrorism that they've said is that Americans have constitutional rights.
And so if you're engaging in particular political messaging when you engage in an action, it's free speech.
But then I would question hate crime laws.
If you're engaging in a speech, then how could that be regulated?
Your intention, you know what I mean?
In which case wouldn't terror stand as well?
The difference being hate is based on an immutable characteristic and terror being based on politics.
I don't know.
Not a lawyer.
iRezTV says, Tim, I was raised conservative in Washington where everyone was blindly liberal and I never heard convincing arguments and remained Republican because it made sense to me.
I found you.
It actually brought me more to the left.
I appreciate that y'all have the sense to be intellectually honest.
I guess.
You know, the thing, the thing I think is I hate being wrong.
You know what I mean?
adam crigler
I do too.
tim pool
So I always want to make sure I have- Who likes being wrong?
Apparently there are a lot of people who have found that the easiest thing to do is pretend to be right.
adam crigler
No, no, no.
The difference is, though, they think they're right.
They believe the core of their being that they're right.
And that's an issue.
That's why they look at anyone else that critical thinks that's willing to look at all sides as evil.
Because, whoa, whoa, whoa, you just don't instantly believe what I believe, you're evil.
Period.
Because I'm right.
It's a belief system.
tim pool
It's why when you present them with evidence, they say, I don't need evidence.
adam crigler
Right, and I hear that a lot.
I've heard it a lot lately.
tim pool
My thing is like, what's really challenging now is, I want to make sure that I'm not wrong.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, I don't want to deceive people.
I want to know that I have my facts correct.
unidentified
Boom.
tim pool
And so I'll look for sources and try and verify them.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
But we're at a point now where sources are almost meaningless because, like we talked about in this earlier segment, they just make things up.
adam crigler
Storytellers.
tim pool
Pulling things out of context and just say what they want to say.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
So now anyone can pull any source for anything.
Dude, the fake news problem has reached critical mass.
adam crigler
I agree.
tim pool
It's beyond just someone making a blog and lying.
It's literally at the point where CNN is lying non-stop all day because they know they can't compete with fake news websites.
So, think about it.
There were a bunch of stories years ago about these dudes who made a blog that just wrote fake news all day about right-wing issues.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Because they knew they would get shares, they knew they'd make money.
CNN realized no matter what they did, they would never compete with fake news.
You can't!
If CNN does a story that was real and it said, you know, Donald Trump shakes hand of, you know, Japanese Prime Minister, who cares?
And then these other companies know they could write a story where they said Donald Trump punches Japanese Prime Minister in the face and it would get a million shares and they didn't care if it was real or not.
CNN realized we'll lose because they can do this.
They have a right to free speech and they can say it.
What do we do?
We gotta get as close to the sun as possible without falling from the sky.
So CNN said, let's play, baby.
Chris Cuomo lies about having COVID.
They just go straight for the fake news.
Just make it up.
Jim Acosta, just make it up.
And there's the money.
And now the ratings are better than ever.
Well, not really better than ever, but, you know, the ratings are actually up.
I love how the language is corrupted around whatever this is supposed to mean.
I love it.
It's not a real culture. There's a Korean saying that translates to you don't avoid poop because it smells you
avoid it because it's disgusting Spin the smash button UFO the like I love how the language
is is corrupted around whatever this is supposed to mean The Joker says I'm 35 and have two small kids 8 and 4 and I
fear for their future also All the debt we keep accruing.
China, these morons that talk socialism.
Most sane parents are terrified for our kids.
Spin the UFO.
adam crigler
I will spin it.
I'll keep spinning.
tim pool
I will spin it.
adam crigler
It's okay.
tim pool
I will spin.
adam crigler
I'll never deny.
tim pool
Despite the negative press coverage, I will spin the UFO.
unidentified
That's right.
adam crigler
It's getting a little... There's a speed that'll kick it off.
tim pool
It's bouncing like crazy.
adam crigler
I can't overspin.
tim pool
BearPost says, Tim, Adam, and Lydia, please give $25 of this to the charity of your choice.
Keep on doing what you are doing.
unidentified
I'd love to do that.
tim pool
All right.
unidentified
OK.
tim pool
Your favorite, oh, we just jumped.
What happened?
We had a post, and then YouTube decided to take it away.
Well, it's gone.
adam crigler
I'll take this time to just let everyone know, tomorrow I'm going to be doing AdamCast IRL and I'm going to do a deep dive on Donald Trump.
So we're going to talk about, me and Ian are going to talk about it, how he became as powerful as he is in the business world, his family history, the things he's done for this country.
I'm going to just do a deep dive.
tim pool
When he decided to become a white supremacist.
Officially pledged.
adam crigler
Anyway, so 8 p.m.
tomorrow.
Tune in.
It's gonna be a good episode.
tim pool
All right, here we go.
Your favorite sociologist says, former decade-long Marxist socialist professor, 20-year activist, now voting Trump.
unidentified
Whoa!
tim pool
Whoa!
I know.
Clearly, via social forum, Comic-Con meets.
BLM is not about change but destabilization.
I worry media will ignorantly promote support.
They will, they absolutely will, because it's just cash.
One of the pitfalls of capitalism is woke capitalism.
adam crigler
It's true.
tim pool
Baca says, my Friday night after this hard week's work is to sit on my couch in the home I own, drink whiskey, and play Civ 6.
Without the work, the slacking wouldn't feel so good.
I hear you, man.
All right, let's see, let's see.
Leland, thanks for the super chat.
Winter Walker says, submitted a fraud claim with the Oregon, I believe it's Oregon, Secretary of State against Portland Mayor, Council, DA, and Gov for gross waste of public money.
Com Hardesty said $7 million spent on the police over time.
They can save us money by stopping the riots, but refuse to do it.
Definitely, man.
Let's see, Drew38 gave us a super chat.
Oh, it's message redacted.
Oh wow, it's gone.
I think we read that one anyway though.
Bobcat says, you were talking about how we need reliable clean energy and cheap access to space earlier.
I have a proposal to solve both problems that I would like to send you.
Could you do a story on it once I get it sent?
It is possible, but you should send it to spintheufo at gmail.com.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And then we'll check it out.
adam crigler
There it is.
tim pool
And if you haven't already, make sure you subscribe to this channel right now.
We do the show Monday through Friday live at 8 p.m.
You can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, and Parler at Timcast.
You can also follow at Adam Krigler on the same platforms.
lydia smith
And Parler.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
I did say Parler.
unidentified
Oh you did?
Okay.
tim pool
I did.
lydia smith
Sorry.
tim pool
And you can also follow at Sour Patch Lids, L-Y-B-S.
lydia smith
Also on Parler.
I was thinking about Parler.
I was like, we cannot forget to mention it.
tim pool
Yep.
Armchair Engineering says Tim Pool should say, I'll get you next time, gadget, next time, in that low voice.
unidentified
I'll get you next time, gadget, next time.
adam crigler
Nice.
That's pretty good.
tim pool
Edward Hughes says, hard work, rugged individualism, drive to be number one.
I think intersectionalists just declared Michael Jordan the whitest basketball player of all time.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Perhaps they did.
adam crigler
Don't mess with Michael, man.
tim pool
Galandro Glade says, really appreciate you guys.
You have a global influence.
Keep up the great work.
Appreciate it.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
I mean, we're hearing crazy stories.
Like, you were telling me a crazy story about someone at work, like, secretly watching the podcast.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
So, I'll tell it.
So, someone had to go ask their co-worker a question about something.
And I guess they walked up to their co-worker and they quickly hid the phone away.
They saw that they were watching videos, but they heard our voice, me and Tim's voice, and they were like, I was like, hey, are you watching Timcast IRL?
And they were like, oh, yeah.
And they were like, you're not doing anything wrong.
Fist bump, and walked back.
I was like, yes!
tim pool
That's so awesome!
You know what I was looking at?
Seeing the amount of growth that we're getting with the show from everybody liking, subscribing, and sharing, I really do appreciate it.
We've seen tremendous growth.
I think it's been now, we're going on, man, it's only been five and a half months, 420,000 subscribers.
adam crigler
Yeah, thanks everybody.
tim pool
But what it gives me hope for is that it's not the biggest channel in the world.
We don't got five million, you know?
adam crigler
Yet.
tim pool
But the growth suggests that there are moderate individuals, both slightly to the left, slightly to the right, that feel similarly to how we feel and are talking about it, are secretly watching, are concerned.
And these stories I hear make me feel like not only do people really like you know, not only do people really like what we're saying,
they agree with us in many respects, disagree obviously, but that some of these stories, there
are a lot of people scared to admit it.
They're watching as milquetoast a conversation as we're having. It's not really milquetoast,
I mean it's more of a joke. I don't sit on the fence. But listen, we're not a show where two
guys wearing MAGA hats are screaming Trump.
We're a show where you're like, I'm gonna vote for Trump because I did my research and I'm saying, you know, we'll see, let's talk about it.
And that is not, like a lot of these conservative shows are overtly conservative Republican.
I think there's a lot of people who are in a similar position to where we are, where it's like either they're begrudgingly voting for Trump, have just decided to, or recently converted as like mainstream liberals now realizing that Biden has no strength He's gutless.
He's giving in to the far left's demands, which are insane and nobody wants.
adam crigler
He is trying to defund the police.
tim pool
He is?
unidentified
He is.
Or at least he's so weak, he just says, I'll do whatever you say!
tim pool
Joe Biden doesn't want to defund the police.
Fact check true.
Joe Biden doesn't, but he's so spineless, he'll say he does.
How about that one?
adam crigler
That could be true.
tim pool
That's what I'm saying.
adam crigler
Listening to his speech, he just wanted to be Trump.
He wanted to say everything that Trump was saying, but then he wasn't.
He was like converting it to his own weird leftist version of it.
It's like, dude, what are you talking about?
tim pool
At a certain point, you got to recognize the far left wants more than you can offer.
adam crigler
Absolutely.
tim pool
They're not satisfied with what Biden's offering, but they think they can steamroll him.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So, you know, I'm hopeful.
adam crigler
No, no.
Not think.
unidentified
They know.
adam crigler
They know.
They straight up said it.
We can't, we can't manipulate the president who's in the office right now.
We need Biden in there because he will be, he can be manipulated to the masses.
tim pool
Yep.
adam crigler
We can, we can mass riot and he'll make changes for us.
tim pool
He's going to be sitting in a wheelchair with a, with a, with a blanket over his lap, sitting in the sun.
And they're going to walk up and go, Now we're gonna abolish the police.
Oh yeah, just sign here.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
He's going to sign it.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Doop, doop, doop, doop, doop.
And that's it.
All cops gone.
I'm exaggerating.
I know someone's going to be like, Tim Pool just said Joe Biden's going to abolish all of the police.
That's a joke.
adam crigler
Well, they clearly don't watch the entire episode.
They're just looking for that gotcha line.
tim pool
That's true.
adam crigler
Ugh, media.
tim pool
That's what they do.
adam crigler
So sick of that media.
tim pool
Will says, please play Motorhead if you could.
We can't do covers, unfortunately.
adam crigler
We can cover each other's music, but that's about it.
tim pool
Yep.
Kaleem Mims says, I know I've said this before about creating my own animation company, even though to be as big
as Disney, which is a big goal, I have more respect for the people who do the gross jobs I wouldn't do.
That's South Park Bowels Movement joke though, lol.
Yep.
Kenny Jackson says, start watching Warrior Poet Society, Tactical Rifleman, and T-Rex Arms to get some good tips on
becoming more proficient with firearms.
Love the show, Stufo.
adam crigler
Stufo!
tim pool
Not Spoofo.
adam crigler
I like it though, spin the UFO.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
Hashtag Stufo, let's do it.
tim pool
Robert Jorgensen says, Tim hates being wrong but is willing to be wrong.
Oh for sure.
adam crigler
There's something amazing about the ability to admit that you're wrong.
People forgot that too.
They're so stuck in their pride that they can't fathom it, let alone admit it.
tim pool
Ego problems.
You know what I think it is?
I think it's because they don't actually feel confident in themselves.
adam crigler
Yep, that's true.
tim pool
And so the only thing they have is this fake image of who they are.
Because for me, and again, I think it's skateboarding.
adam crigler
Yep, that's true.
tim pool
We talk about it a lot.
When we skate, Adam was trying to do this run where he's like trying to do a bunch of tricks in succession, right?
And it gets increasingly difficult because you have to land all, like you were doing, what, four tricks?
Wait, you got one, two, three, four.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
You have to do them all.
You have to do them all.
If you mess up one, the whole line breaks.
You can't lie.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
You know you did it, and you're confident in yourself saying, I did it.
It's a fact.
It is an objective fact, and everyone saw me do it.
adam crigler
Took me three days.
tim pool
But if you have no real skill or provable, discernible, objective accomplishments, then the only thing you have to believe is this fake sense of self.
There's no fake sense of self.
You did it.
adam crigler
I did.
tim pool
You landed the trick you wanted to do.
Or the series of tricks.
adam crigler
It felt amazing.
I was elated.
tim pool
It was incredible.
Now, I feel like this is it.
Psychologically, in your mind, if you are wrong, you're like, oh, because you already know that I can do what I set my mind to.
I'm confident, comfortable in what my abilities are.
Oh, I was wrong about that.
Hey, how about that?
It doesn't affect your view of yourself.
You know you struggled to get this line done, and then you accomplished your goal.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Skateboarding is proof.
And I think that lends itself to this worldview, I guess, that many of these lefties have no accomplishments.
They can't prove their value.
They're not the best at anything.
So that's why they get so angry when they're proven wrong, because the only thing they have is their imaginary self.
I've got it.
adam crigler
Deep thoughts.
Deep thoughts with Tim Pool.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
Like, well, when I go skate and I'm like, today I'm going to do this trick.
If I don't get it, I know I'll try again later.
And then, you know, I'm trying to do right now, nollie flip rock on the mini ramp.
And I'm getting close.
I know I can't land it.
I can't lie about that.
I can't go, hey Adam, I did it.
You're going to be like, no, you didn't.
adam crigler
No, I would say, all right, let me see it.
tim pool
Yeah, go do it.
Prove it.
adam crigler
That's what I say.
tim pool
Exactly.
Prove it.
adam crigler
Prove it to me that you did it.
tim pool
So think about how this translates then, you know, in skateboarding, you film it to prove it.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
And if you didn't, that's what a poser, you're posing.
You would put the board down and you would pose for it to lie.
And people would, no, he's not really doing it.
On the internet, you claim, I know I'm right about this.
And the same response.
Prove it.
No!
Could you imagine?
adam crigler
I don't need to prove it because I'm right.
tim pool
Imagine any sport where someone walks up, basketball, football, hockey, skateboarding, BMX, whatever, and they're like, I'm the best.
I can do this special move.
You'd be like, cool, let's see it.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Why did you tell me you could do it?
lydia smith
Don't you wanna show off?
tim pool
Yeah, like, just don't say it, just do it.
It's like the old saying, those who know don't say and those who say don't know.
adam crigler
Yeah, we have to actually incorporate the way sports does things into real life.
They pick the best of the best to be on their team.
tim pool
They're not gonna start picking, you know... An NBA team, a bunch of players, and they're like, they're all chosen because they said they were better.
adam crigler
Because of equality.
tim pool
So we want to know, before we sign you this team, are you the best?
I am in fact the best.
Then everyone else, yep, can you show us?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Good enough for us, welcome to the team!
adam crigler
You've said you're the best, we believe it.
tim pool
They all come out, it's a match, it's like the Bulls versus this other team.
And the Bulls are playing.
adam crigler
The SJWs.
tim pool
And the SJWs are on their arms crossed and they're like, we don't have to prove we can actually play.
Like you demanding that of us, how dare you?
That's bigoted.
adam crigler
Whoa, whoa.
We don't actually play the game.
tim pool
No, no, wait, wait.
adam crigler
We just win.
tim pool
It gets better.
And then one of the players, like, after a few minutes of them all confused, one of the players walks over to one of, like, the refs and whispers to them, and the ref shrugs, and then all of a sudden their score goes to 100.
And they're like, they said they had 100 points.
We asked for proof that they've scored, and they said they didn't need to prove it, so we're just changing the scoreboard.
That feels like it's literally happening.
adam crigler
It's true.
tim pool
We don't need to prove it.
We're saying it's true, therefore it is.
And we're asking, like, can you prove it?
unidentified
Words have power.
adam crigler
Nope.
We're here to watch the game be played?
No, no, no.
The game is whiteness.
tim pool
No, no, no.
Everybody walks in.
The teams run out.
Then they say, OK, everybody now leave.
Everybody leaves.
And they come back and the scores are changed.
And they're like, we don't have to prove to you who actually scored.
This is it.
You're done.
Anyway, welcome to the show.
adam crigler
We've got to bring back All Ball.
tim pool
Hope you're enjoying it.
unidentified
All Ball.
adam crigler
Hashtag All Ball.
tim pool
We'll figure it out.
The idea of All Ball was a sport where it's like, I guess the idea we had was like Hunger Games, where there's every ball, a football, a baseball, a softball, a basketball, a dodgeball, and there's nets for them.
And then everyone runs in and tries to grab them or something.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
And then the dodgeballs would be like, you can get people out.
tim pool
Yeah, it's like dodgeball.
You know what?
adam crigler
I'm going to start a thread.
You're going to start writing it down?
No, no, even better.
I'm going to start a thread on Twitter, and I'll throw one up on Parler, too, because I know a lot of people aren't on either or.
And I'll just be like, what should the game be?
What should the rules be?
unidentified
Yes.
adam crigler
But on the premise of it needs to have all the balls in the center of the court.
We'll just say the court, the center.
And then on the outside, it's like a circle.
You know, we got a kind of a premise going already.
tim pool
Well, that means you need bases.
adam crigler
Maybe.
And you need... No, who knows?
tim pool
Well, you need a bat.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
There's a baseball, so... Let's discuss.
adam crigler
We'll do it.
I'll put it out.
I'll put it up there.
unidentified
We'll discuss it.
tim pool
So, there's gonna be a dodgeball.
And that means if someone runs to grab the football to throw it, then you hit them with a dodgeball, they're out.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
But then if he, like, throws the football and then catches the dodgeball, his player comes back in.
lydia smith
Oh, snap.
tim pool
And then someone pitches the baseball and someone's got a bat for some reason.
I have no idea.
unidentified
No, no, no.
adam crigler
Because, see, now we're getting into someone could get seriously injured with a baseball.
tim pool
You can get injured playing any sport.
Come on.
I know, but... The batter's in the batter box, man.
He's not running around swinging a bat.
So someone could throw the football and he can try and hit the football through the field goal.
With a bat?
adam crigler
Yeah, with a bat.
lydia smith
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
Someone throws a dodgeball and he hits it and it bounces back.
adam crigler
Clearly we need to deliberate about the rules of All Ball.
lydia smith
Some creative differences.
tim pool
All Ball.
Ladies and gentlemen, with that being said, Adam is cracking the whiskey.
unidentified
That means, it means smash that like button.
lydia smith
Oh my.
tim pool
Subscribe to the show for new live episodes every Monday through Friday.
And hit that like, uh, the notification bell.
Sorry, the notification bell.
adam crigler
Ron Swanson knew what he was doing.
tim pool
Is it good stuff?
adam crigler
Well, it smells good.
I haven't tried it yet, but, you know, he's one of the greatest TV characters ever.
You guys know Ron Swanson.
Yeah, but he's like actually- Lydia's over there like, yeah.
tim pool
He's got like raging TDS.
lydia smith
Yeah, in real life, he's kind of terrible.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's the actor.
I'm talking about the character, Ron Swanson.
lydia smith
The character is great.
adam crigler
You know?
tim pool
My friends.
I would say that the show is technically over, but the after party has just started.
adam crigler
Oh, that's good.
tim pool
We're gonna hang out a little bit more.
Adam's gonna set up the music and we're gonna stick around for about another 26 or so minutes for the Friday night jam session.
And that's what we do on Friday.
Thanks for hanging out, everybody.
As far as it goes with cultural talk, commentary, politics, that part is, for the most part, done.
We're now just gonna hang out.
It's a Friday night.
Which means Adam is probably gonna play a couple songs.
I think I might play one song.
I don't even know what I would play.
But yeah, we're gonna play some music.
And the important thing you need to know is that we're both actually the best.
There ever was!
lydia smith
It's true.
Both of them.
tim pool
We're the best!
But this time, we're actually gonna prove it to you.
No, we're gonna jam.
I guess we're okay.
A lot of people like the music, so we'll be hanging out.
And again, thanks for hanging out.
You can still feel free to subscribe, like, super chat, whatever, while Adam sets up that there microphone.
No, just the good mic that we normally use.
unidentified
Alright.
tim pool
I'm gonna mute the audio real quick so I can plug this in.
unidentified
And we're back.
tim pool
Because Adam is setting up the mic.
adam crigler
Well, that doesn't sound right.
tim pool
It's giving me fuzz.
adam crigler
It's giving you fuzz?
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Well, it shouldn't.
tim pool
It is certainly.
unidentified
Oh, we're good.
adam crigler
I think it was because it was on this power cable right there.
That's better?
tim pool
Yes, sir.
adam crigler
Sounds good.
tim pool
And for those that are listening, we are very, very close to a large expansion, where we're gonna be having, like, multiple studios, we're gonna have a much, much better sound setup, we're gonna be building out and expanding.
Basically, as we stated earlier, with the fact that, you know, we gained almost half a million subs in, like, five and a half months, things are going well enough for a decent expansion.
So, new shows, vlogging, all the good stuff.
You gonna play Melancholy Hellhound?
adam crigler
Yeah, I'll play it.
tim pool
That was the request.
unidentified
I'm going to play it.
I just wanted to play that little ditty.
adam crigler
What's up, everyone?
I'm going to play... This is the first time we actually had a request from the audience, which is kind of cool.
Thank you for that super chat.
I appreciate it.
So I'm going to play Melancholy Hellhound.
This is one of my jams.
It's one of the songs I like to jam on.
And this Lagavulin... I think I said it wrong.
I don't know.
It's amazing.
I've never had it before, so this is... It's incredible.
But it's the 16 year.
Highly suggest it.
Cheers to everybody.
This is Melancholy Hill, huh?
unidentified
Well, I don't want your money.
I just want some wine.
Yeah, give me some of your honey.
I promise I'll take my time.
Welcome to the heartache.
It always feels the same.
It's a good one.
Yeah, I find myself growing senseless to the pain.
Yeah, well I'll scratch and crawl to figure it out, but in the end I found me.
Oh, I don't want your pity.
Hey.
you And I don't want no lies.
Yeah!
Life gets shitty.
And then you die.
Welcome to the heartache.
Try not to lose your way.
Yeah, it's like trudging through the muddy waters, oh, without faith.
Yeah, you can stretch and crawl to figure it out, but in the end you'll find me.
Oh, well, I still get the feeling, yeah, of judgmental eyes.
The only difference being, it's just not worth my time Cause I welcome all the heartache, oh it brings tears to my
eyes Yeah, those tears remind me
Cheers.
Remind me I'm alive, yeah, alive Yeah, well I'll scratch and crawl to figure it out
But in the end it's just me Woo!
Thank you everybody, cheers.
I'm gonna play a nameless song.
You're gonna what?
I'm gonna play a name with Sung.
Play a nameless song.
adam crigler
Oh, he's coming over!
unidentified
Untitled song.
adam crigler
I know, that's the problem with your songs.
unidentified
I'm like, hey, what was that song you were playing?
I actually have a career that's not music-related.
adam crigler
Oh, he's bringing the 12-string over.
unidentified
Yeah, so I'm gonna play a song that's just chords, so I think... Hey, that's cool.
Hello, everyone!
tim pool
My name is Tim Poole.
unidentified
This is probably out of tune.
tim pool
Should I play with the 12?
unidentified
I could play with the 6.
I'm going to play with the 6, I think, because I'm not brave enough to do it.
How you guys doing?
It's Friday night.
tim pool
This is what we do when we're bored.
We play music.
This song has a name.
unidentified
have a name it's called carved out of stone.
adam crigler
Oh well there you go.
unidentified
♪ Well the ice is getting low and the days are getting longer
I knew that we would make it on our own and true it's true enough that we'll never see another
night quite like this that I had seen with you when you promised
to.
This is not an idea I made up on my own.
Won't you consider it?
The paper people unfold.
Their hearts are exposed.
More than you'd ever know.
So long as you know Well the days have gotten short
And the nights are getting longer Now our time has come to an end, we know.
But true, it's true enough that we worked it out together.
And the plans we made have brought us to our own road.
You told me that you know.
This is not an idea you made up on your own.
Won't you consider it?
The plastic people in Maltu's hearts are controlled more than you'd ever know.
But so long as you know This is not an idea to dismiss on its own
Once you consider it to get.
To carve yourself out of stone, you must pave your own road into the wilderness.
The paths that you have paved and the prices you've paid, guide them in infinite And everyone who follows knows
The path that you drove Brings them to their own end
For so long As you know
You Nice. I'll give it up now to Adam.
There you are, sir.
Well, I pulled my fly up.
It was down.
adam crigler
I had no idea.
Why didn't anyone tell me?
unidentified
I'm sorry!
lydia smith
I didn't know.
adam crigler
You didn't know?
unidentified
I'm sorry.
adam crigler
Well, it's probably best that you weren't noticing.
tim pool
Am I your fly's keeper?
lydia smith
Apparently.
adam crigler
Honestly, I don't care.
It's not like you can see anything, but whatever.
So actually, it's interesting.
Someone asked me last week to play a song.
I think it was maybe on my show that they requested it.
No, maybe not.
I don't remember when it was, but it's called Hindsight.
And it's funny because it's the year 2020 and it's kind of the hook is involved about hindsight 2020.
But it's not about craziness like that.
This is about a friend of mine who was in a crazy relationship nonstop on the phone.
It was a mess, but this is what that song is about.
So this is called Hindsight.
unidentified
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm stuck answering all your phone calls.
I'm stuck answering all your phone calls again.
Whoa, again.
Again.
Always again.
Feels like I'm locked up in your phone calls nearly every single night.
I know we've had this conversation at least a million times.
It's not my job to make sure that everything's right.
I knew you were trouble.
Well, it's always 2020 when it's in your hindsight.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I'm on the phone again
I feel my mind slip away Cause we're still arguing
I don't know what else to say So I hung up the phone
Same routine every day With you, oh with you
With you, always again be
Feels like I'm locked up in your phone calls nearly every single night.
I know we've had this conversation at least a million times.
It's not my job to make sure that everything's alright.
Well, I knew you were trouble.
Well, it's always 2020 when it's in your hindsight.
when it's in your hindsight But I knew you were trouble, well
It's always 2020 when it's in your hindsight So that was for whoever requested that last week.
Forgot about that request, so that was cool.
tim pool
I got the ultimate request!
unidentified
Tim's got a request!
tim pool
The ultimate one, that's a big mistake.
adam crigler
Uh oh, it's the ultimate request.
tim pool
Exciting!
I'm good.
The ultimate request.
The one that's gonna make me not be able to work for the next week.
lydia smith
Oh no.
adam crigler
Is it Will O' The People?
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Don't do it!
tim pool
I can play anything else.
adam crigler
I knew it was Will O' The People.
tim pool
I can try and not blow up my vocal cords trying to sing this song.
adam crigler
Technically, I could sing it for you.
unidentified
Oh man.
tim pool
If you play the guitar.
unidentified
I'm gonna go for it.
adam crigler
Play it out, play it out, play it out.
tim pool
So this is a song that, uh, it was like what, two or three weeks now.
I had, I had done six Full belt recordings in the studio because we're currently working on an animation.
This song is not necessarily about all the political goings-on that we're experiencing.
I wrote the song last year, but it really is apt to what we're seeing today, inspired by the last several years.
The song is basically about the cycle of revolutions when every single person thinks that their fringe minority represents what people actually want, and it's not true.
And the song is called The Will of the People.
So I did like six full belt versions of it in like a half an hour or longer and then like that Friday... Studio version's coming soon though.
Yeah, so I'll see if I can play it Out on the March in the morning
unidentified
He called his soldiers down to take aim at the
traitors To gun those rebels down
Now they'll face the consequences They held themselves above
This is the will of the people Love the people you save.
I wish I could spare them, make them see the path.
Tempting as that sounds, a laugh to pass.
I know what's needed for the good of the people, to save them.
Out, in the dark, without warning.
He raised his fist above, let it pry to his people.
To tear those statues down, now they'll face the consequences.
They held themselves above This is the will of the people
He said I wish I could spare them
Make them see the path Tempting as that sounds, I'll have to pass.
I know what's needed for the good of my people.
To save them Now drop your arms and march for them
Against a wall and bow your head you
you Speak your last words, let them be said.
Out on the march in the morning He called his comrades down To take aim at the traitors To gun those fascists down
Now they'll face the consequences They held themselves above
This is the will of the people He said, I wish I could find a way to restore peace.
Blessed were those days we held in vain.
I'd give it all for a chance at redemption.
But the cycle turns again You've seen it before, now you'll see it begin
You've seen the changes and the blood pooling.
You've seen the changes and the blood pooling If you think it ends here, think again
Yeah! Almost perfect.
I messed up one part.
Save your voice, Tim!
No!
Yeah, that should be the last one.
adam crigler
That's such a good song, though.
unidentified
I get overconfident.
adam crigler
Did you turn the mics off over there?
Because I was singing along.
unidentified
No, they're on.
adam crigler
I might have infiltrated that song a little bit.
They're definitely on.
unidentified
I was singing along.
tim pool
You were singing.
adam crigler
I regret nothing.
lydia smith
He's jamming.
adam crigler
It's cool.
There was a couple people in there that were asking me to play specific songs.
I played Find Yourself last week on this show, so I'm going to play that tomorrow night.
Adam cast IRL, 8pm, same as Tim cast IRL.
Tune in tomorrow, we're going to do a deep dive on Donald Trump, and then me and Ian jam after the show, it's going to be great.
So I'll play that then.
And then I saw another person ask for Torn Photographs, which I actually was thinking about playing anyway, so I'm going to play it.
So this is Torn Photographs.
I'm just gonna check the tuning because I can't help myself.
unidentified
Okay, it sounds fine.
adam crigler
This is Torn Photographs.
unidentified
I come home late.
I get the feeling you're still here.
But you're not.
Don't you remember?
All of those things I did.
I did to prove to you.
All I wanted was a little something in return.
You'd think you'd be better off without me.
Baby, all I wanted was for you to be happy.
I guess I'm all out of luck, cause you were my everything.
Oh, and now I'm all torn up because now you're gone.
Oh, and obviously I'm alone.
Oh, with my thoughts and old torn photographs.
Of distant smiles on the floor As you walked out the door
I closed my eyes and I thought I'd never see you again.
I closed my eyes only to find that you're still here.
A flash of light and one more memory slides to the floor.
Maybe I am better better.
Going on without you, boy, that's gonna be so hard.
Cause you'd think you'd be better off without me.
Oh, and baby, all I wanted was for you to be happy.
I guess I'm all out of luck, cause you were my everything And now I'm all torn up because, now you're gone
Oh, and obviously I'm alone.
Oh, with my thoughts in old torn photographs of distant smiles on the floor.
As you walked out the door All the pain That you caused me when you walked out It didn't stop me from putting All those pieces back together To see your face just one last time again. Oh, again.
Woo! So that one's kind of heavy.
Woo!
adam crigler
That one's kinda heavy.
heavy.
So I actually wrote that for a good friend of mine back in Chicago who is just going through it, you know.
He's coming over again.
You're not gonna lose your voice, are you?
unidentified
I hope not.
adam crigler
I see the smile on his face.
unidentified
I'm like, I think I can play one song.
I've traveled a thousand miles in the dark just to be with you.
And I've made it a thousand nights to your heart just to see it through.
Maybe this is the only way I can justify my stay.
Maybe I could trade you something for the words to say When you say never, if we stayed together until we die
We would only fight, I'm saying just never forget what it was
Only just because we let it die I've seen into the sky the broken shards reflected in your
eyes and I'll see you next time.
And I've traveled through the night to see the art of your lies.
Maybe this is the only way I can justify my stay.
Maybe I could trade you something for the words to say when you say never.
If we stay together until we die, it'll be alright.
I'm saying let's never forget what it was Only just because we let it die
Maybe this is the only way I could justify my sin
you Maybe I could trade you something for the words to say when you say never if we stay together through the night.
It'll be alright.
Just promise me you'll never forget what it was.
Only just because we let it die.
Yeah!
That's the end for me.
Alright.
I don't have to scream that one, that's why I thought I'd be able to play it.
Alright, so my- I have a second verse though.
Yeah! That's the end for me. I don't have to scream that one, that's why I thought I'd
be able to play it. Alright, so my second verse though... I'm gonna play one more. I'm
adam crigler
gonna play one more and then we're gonna be done.
This one is a request from my mom, who's watching right now.
Hey mom, how you doing?
unidentified
Love you.
adam crigler
This one's called, this one actually, it's got two versions of it, and I might as well, I'll play a little bit of the first version.
unidentified
I've been sitting here a long time, well, move over, yeah.
adam crigler
So this was a little tiny ditty that I had, and it was just talking about sitting in one spot for a long time, and someone coming by and telling you to move over, and it's just like, who are you to tell me?
I've been sitting here a long time.
But I wrote a full song about it, and it's totally different, so I'm going to play the full song, because that's what it is now.
It's called A Love Story's Remains.
unidentified
That's what it's called, a love story's remains.
you The things I do to get you dancing in the rain.
I want a piece, oh say you want the same.
A love story remains.
I know we'll go through some hard times.
And I'll always be there if I can.
Oh, but there's a chance we're not like miles.
Oh, this love story may end.
I'm just being honest.
I'm just being honest with myself I'm gonna miss the way you kiss under the rain
All the times you saved me, but that love don't feel the same.
I wanted peace, so you wanted me to change.
Only connected when you're calling out my name.
I know we've been through some hard times.
Oh, those times have helped me to find myself.
Oh, honesty is my policy, yeah.
We might be better with someone else.
I'm just being honest.
I'm just being honest with myself.
Well, come and sit.
Let's take a trip down memory lane.
If I had the choose, baby, I wouldn't miss a thing.
Cause I found peace, oh look you found the same In the rubble of the remains Of love stories remains I found a peace of mind Something you helped me find I wouldn't trade it for anything.
Just be honest.
Just be honest with yourself.
adam crigler
Thank you very much everybody.
I'm gonna head back over there.
unidentified
And thus is the end of the music.
tim pool
Ladies and gentlemen, thanks for hanging out.
We played some songs.
Yeah, that was fun.
I was able to squeeze in three, and I think my voice is alright.
I'm drinking this nice hibiscus soda.
adam crigler
You need to be on that whiskey kick.
unidentified
No alcohol.
adam crigler
No, I know you don't drink.
tim pool
It's bad.
It's bad for your throat, man.
Hey, thanks for hanging out.
I'm assuming the people who've made it this far have already smashed the like button.
adam crigler
He doesn't know what he's talking about.
tim pool
Dehydrated.
adam crigler
You better smash that like button.
unidentified
Actually.
I drink lots of water.
tim pool
Actually, Adam, alcohol inhibits protein.
adam crigler
Actually.
tim pool
Alcohol inhibits protein synthesis.
lydia smith
No, it's too late for this.
unidentified
Look fat.
adam crigler
Look fat.
unidentified
How dare you?
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
Is that on?
Oh, it is on, yeah.
adam crigler
It is, yeah.
tim pool
We're gonna get a full soundboard.
adam crigler
I can't wait.
tim pool
We are really close.
We've got so much stuff happening in the background.
The stack of projects we've got.
It's too many.
Too many projects.
Too good of projects.
Too good of expansion.
adam crigler
I don't know if your English was correct there.
lydia smith
Too good.
tim pool
Too good of expansion.
lydia smith
Too good things are happening.
tim pool
I've got good vocabulistics and all.
adam crigler
Two good things.
tim pool
We are going to be moving to a much bigger production set up.
I've been talking about for a while wanting to get a bigger building where we can do a lot more.
Considering the shenanigans of everything, it's going to be like a fortress in the middle of nowhere.
And we're going to have probably different shows, different sets.
We originally did have a space set up for the gaming set up.
We've never got to that point.
But we're going to have skateboarding, we're going to have a general vlog.
adam crigler
So you're going to have a pinball machine.
tim pool
Yeah.
Maybe a bowling alley.
That's wishful thinking.
lydia smith
That'd be so cool.
tim pool
Pinball machine is something you can't do.
adam crigler
You can't drop that.
I was the most excited there.
You know, I brought my bowling ball here from Arizona when I moved here because we went bowling a few times and I was like getting hyped.
I'm like, I'm about to join.
You OK?
Yeah.
You good?
unidentified
Oh boy.
adam crigler
Yeah.
It's because you're not drinking the good stuff.
That's why.
Anyway, back to bowling.
I'm disappointed.
So when you drop this, like, we're going to have a bowling alley.
I'm like, yes.
That sounds awesome!
joe biden
You're a one-dog-faced pony soldier.
adam crigler
You are!
Anyway, there's been a g-off in the chat.
It's like, please do a studio version of these songs.
We are absolutely going to work on that.
We have a music producer that lives in-house who's working on his stuff right now.
Wheel of the People is being finalized, so that's going to be first.
And eventually all of our songs are going to be done professionally.
We're going to put those out there for you guys to listen to, download, whatever.
And we'll probably both have albums soon because he's got so many songs and I've got a bunch of songs.
tim pool
I've got like 30 ready to go that I could probably play right now.
adam crigler
No, no, don't do that.
tim pool
No, I know.
adam crigler
You need your voice.
tim pool
I should put a set list together, though.
adam crigler
This guy works every day like a freaking robot.
I mean, I'm sure most of you know.
tim pool
On Saturday, I work in the mornings, but we don't do IRL, right?
I've got a huge business call.
It's going to take like an hour.
adam crigler
Well, I do IRL.
tim pool
And then you're going to do the Atomcast show.
Sunday, I've got a call with a production company for the animation work for Will of the People.
adam crigler
Oh, dope.
tim pool
16 hour days, every day, no days off.
adam crigler
This guy's crazy.
tim pool
The secret to success!
Have some kind of weird workaholism.
I don't know.
Whatever.
I guess if your dream is to get your name in big gold letters on top of a building, you will succeed.
adam crigler
That's a pie in the sky.
I'm gonna read some of these hefty superchats.
Michael Martin just said, this music is fire.
And you all have my deepest respect as journalists.
Thank you for reporting on the facts and truth instead of political rhetoric.
Free Hong Kong.
And I know this is a meme, but play Free Bird.
unidentified
Ha ha ha.
Chief.
An election.
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
We will immortalize the fart of Eric Swalwell.
lydia smith
Yes, we will.
adam crigler
PPMM says, uh, uh, Moebank, blocking me to donate more, uh, let's sing for freedom.
Oh, so you wanted to donate more.
Well, that was a pretty hefty super chat.
I must thank you for that.
lydia smith
Thank you.
adam crigler
Anyway, uh, Zibi sent a, a, an awesome chunk for us for, with a, a little dancing monster pear, which is great.
Thank you.
Thank you for that.
tim pool
A little dancing monster pear.
adam crigler
Yeah, I think, uh, I think that's great.
Thank you very much, everybody.
tim pool
Appreciate it.
adam crigler
You guys are awesome.
tim pool
All right, man.
Well, if you haven't already, I'm assuming you already did, subscribe, like, notification bell, all that good stuff.
We will be back.
Well, Adam will be back tomorrow.
adam crigler
Same time, 8 p.m.
We're doing a deep dive on Donald Trump tomorrow night.
tim pool
If you just search on YouTube for AdamCastIRL, he's got a Saturday show.
adam crigler
Yep, 8 p.m.
tim pool
Basically the same thing, but I won't be here.
Instead, it will be Adam.
adam crigler
I'm sitting in your spot.
tim pool
Yeah, he's taking over.
adam crigler
Cosmic Garth?
tim pool
Cosmic Garth.
adam crigler
Ian Crossland sits in my seat.
He joins me.
Also a great musician.
So if you didn't tune in last week, tune in tomorrow night and you'll hear me.
I'll play a few more songs.
I'll play Find Yourself.
Someone requested it.
Today I'll play it tomorrow after we do the deep dive on the President of the United States.
tim pool
And of course, I always do my regular shows, which are more just a soliloquy, I suppose.
But we'll be back with this show Monday at 8pm.
Thanks for hanging out, everybody.
We will see you all Monday.
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