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July 17, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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TimcastIRL - Federal Officers Are Black Bagging Antifa Off Portland Streets After 47 Days Of Rioting
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adam crigler
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tim pool
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lydia smith
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tim pool
I'm just gonna go to everybody away.
Welcome to the TimCast IRL podcast.
Make sure you hit that like button as we get started.
We got some crazy news.
We got some crazy news, federal law.
Did you hear that, Lydia?
Adam.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, Adam.
adam crigler
What is it?
tim pool
It's on you.
It's on you.
Don't move.
adam crigler
Something's touching me.
tim pool
Yeah, it's a Biden.
adam crigler
I feel something's touching me right now.
I don't know what it is.
Oh, God!
tim pool
Oh!
adam crigler
We've had... I've been Biden'd.
tim pool
We've had a... I feel so dirty.
Unfortunately, they've been roving bands of Bidens just lurking around the neighborhood sniffing children and one of them must have got in.
Can you close the window?
He must have got in through the window.
adam crigler
Where's that bug blaster?
tim pool
Yeah, where's the spray?
unidentified
Here.
tim pool
Here, let me, I'll spritz him next time.
adam crigler
Spritz, spritz him.
tim pool
Actually, we should have spritzed him from the beginning.
Don't worry, I'll get him, I'll get him.
Spritz him.
unidentified
The Biden, the Biden got Adam.
tim pool
Okay, we have too much fun with the Biden.
We have a Biden.
adam crigler
I don't think we've had enough fun with the Biden.
tim pool
No, it's gonna be great.
We have a bunch of ideas for like a Jaws theme of like, you know, like Adam walking into the house and you hear sniffing getting louder.
And Adam's like, huh, huh, what is it?
And then the camera like zooms in and chases after Adam.
He's like, no!
And then the Biden is on him.
The Biden.
The sniffing.
We actually planned that out at the very last minute.
Adam was like, I'll sniff.
We'll just go with it.
I'm like, alright.
I'll start sniffing while you're talking and introducing the show.
adam crigler
Good play, good play.
tim pool
Welcome to the show, everybody.
I'm Tim, that's Adam.
adam crigler
What's up, everybody?
I'm Adam.
Hey, what up?
tim pool
That's Lydia.
lydia smith
I'm over here, yeah.
tim pool
And we are on day, I think tonight would be day 48 of the Portland Riots.
48.
48.
Wow.
Yeah, so the acting secretary of the DHS put out a statement saying, like, federal officers have been basically under siege by violent anarchists for 47 days and the city has abandoned this area.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
And so what they're basically saying is they refuse to cede the federal courthouse to the far left.
But the politicians in Oregon are calling the federal officers occupying armies And so they've put him in a position where they won't enforce any of their laws, giving the marshals no choice but to defend the courthouse.
And then when they do... Occupying army.
Occupying army.
It's Trump's fault.
That's exactly what they wanted to happen.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Well, now the feds have figured out a way to deal with the problem.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Friends, are you familiar with the term black bagging?
adam crigler
I just watched V for Vendetta the other day.
tim pool
Did you really?
adam crigler
Yeah, I did.
tim pool
It's a good movie.
One of Creedy's black bags.
Yes.
So it's a slang term for when a van pulls up, people jump out, throw the bag over your head, and throw you in the van.
And perhaps a bit of an exaggeration here, but they're literally in Portland.
Feds are pulling up in vans that are unmarked.
They're jumping out and snatching antifa and throwing them in the vans and taking off.
adam crigler
Yep, that's true.
tim pool
I'm sorry, it's funny.
It's been a month and a half of these people committing felonies and stuff, and the local jurisdiction won't hold them accountable.
They caught an arsonist, apparently, who had bragged about it, and the grand jury said no indictment.
So I'll be fair and say maybe they didn't have a good case, maybe there really wasn't probable cause for a trial or anything, but when you have all these rioters just being let go, man...
So we got a bunch of stories we'll talk about today.
We've got the ongoing riots.
There's another crazy story.
Apparently, this one's just so typical.
The media's just taken a quote from Kayleigh McEnany totally out of context.
adam crigler
Yeah, totally.
tim pool
And they ran with it like crazy.
And the reason I want to highlight this is because I love ragging on the media so much, as most of you know.
The reason is they lie, and this may be the easiest, like the best example of how they really can twist words And you know, when Kayleigh or Trump or anyone in the Trump administration is slightly not precise enough, they are like piranhas.
adam crigler
They're like, oh, oh, we got them!
Look, everybody, we got them!
And they run with it.
tim pool
Give them an inch.
adam crigler
Yep, exactly.
tim pool
They're sitting there waiting for you to say a word that they can just strip out of context.
They're just waiting.
So as soon as you're not precise enough in your language, We got him.
We got him again.
And now all the Democrats are running around going, like, we got Kayleigh!
They don't believe in science!
They admitted it!
And it's like, she didn't say any of that.
But there's good news.
Along with the Vox layoffs, the Guardian layoffs, we have a big story about many, many more layoffs.
So they can sit there and screech all they want and lie to everybody.
And in the end, they all lose their jobs.
And then we got a bunch of other stories, too.
I don't know exactly what we'll get to, but Majid Nawaz, who is a How do you describe him?
He's the founder of the Quilliam Foundation.
lydia smith
Yeah, he was a former.
He was a radical.
Was he not a terrorist at one point?
tim pool
He was, and he was in prison.
lydia smith
He was reformed, yeah.
tim pool
Now he's like an intellectual dark web personality.
Well, he's engaging in a hunger strike to call out China for the concentration camps.
And I think, you know, he's basically said, left and right, none of this.
We gotta come together now.
adam crigler
Definitely.
tim pool
And he's right.
He's absolutely right.
adam crigler
Yeah, when I first heard about this, I mean, we were on the show.
I think it was like maybe the second or third week we were doing the show, and you told me about it, and I was blown away.
The more I look into it, it's crazy.
tim pool
There's a video going viral right now.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And we've got it.
I think we can show it, because it's not graphic or anything, it's just people being loaded onto a train.
adam crigler
Yeah, but it's a hauntingly familiar sight from something in our past, and I think you'll know what we're talking about when you see it.
tim pool
So, to Majid, he's right about coming together to fight this.
We also do have an election coming up, and what's worrying to me is, I believe if Joe Biden becomes president, they're going to reopen the gates and allow China back in.
adam crigler
I think so too.
tim pool
I mean, it's the establishment, be it Republican or Democrat, for the longest time, were allowing China to extract our manufacturing base.
I read this article from The Week, and this dude went, Damn, man.
He was like, you have one faction that is screaming about the orange dictator while Trump is calling out the concentration camps and the horrifying atrocities of China.
And I'm like, whoa!
adam crigler
Yeah.
It's true.
I mean, H.G.
Barr went off today about China.
It's crazy.
China?
H.G., I'm sorry, H.G.
H.G.
Barr, yeah, yeah.
The Attorney General today.
tim pool
They're going to start seizing Hollywood assets, I'm willing to bet.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
So the executive order from Trump is like, we can, it's basically you can freeze, suspend transactions and your assets.
adam crigler
Not just Hollywood.
He was calling out big companies too.
tim pool
But Hollywood's the most... It's the biggest target.
So you have all these Hollywood productions that are like, what do you want China?
We'll do whatever you say.
We'll make propaganda for you.
We'll put in whatever you want.
In that movie Abominable, they literally put in Chinese propaganda.
They added Chinese propaganda.
Now they think it was like an animator based in Southeast Asia somewhere, maybe China, who then snuck it in and they just ran with it.
adam crigler
Well, he talked about how Dr. Strange, too.
tim pool
Yeah, dude.
adam crigler
It's supposed to be a Tibetan monk, but they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
It should be a Celtic monk, because you get political, you lose one billion customers.
tim pool
That's what they said.
They were saying that, well, you know, it's an old stereotype, and it might be offensive to some.
So then they whitewash the character.
Now, it's still offensive, but then it turns out it's because China doesn't believe Tibet exists.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So you can't have a Tibetan monk character in a movie.
adam crigler
That's crazy.
tim pool
So it's a Celtic monk.
It's a crazy world we live in, man.
Things are getting absolutely off the rails.
But let's get started.
Unless you wanted to add something?
adam crigler
Well, I was just gonna say, you mentioned the manufacturing in China, and I didn't know it was 80% of all of our imports come from China.
80% of all of our imports come from China.
That blew me away.
tim pool
We're going to war, baby.
adam crigler
I think we're closest we've ever been in my life.
tim pool
To an actual world conflict.
adam crigler
To an actual world conflict, yeah, exactly.
tim pool
This executive order, I don't think people understand the severity of it.
adam crigler
No, I don't think so.
tim pool
And I wonder why it's not being talked about.
Like, is anyone going to talk about the potential for, like, Hollywood movie industries to get just, like, their assets frozen by the federal government?
Because they're putting propaganda for China?
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
Or the NBA?
adam crigler
That's what he was talking about today.
The more he spoke, I had to watch it over again.
I'm like, did I really just hear all of this stuff?
tim pool
And check this out.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
With the free Hong Kong thing for the NBA.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
The NBA custom jerseys blocked you from riding free Hong Kong.
They could argue, under the executive order, you are repressing the people of Hong Kong, you are inhibiting free speech related to Hong Kong.
adam crigler
You're absolutely right.
tim pool
What happens when they come in, like NBA, so the NBA is like, no, no, no, no, it was an accident, it was an accident.
Yeah, we'll see, man.
I think a lot of these ultra woke companies will whip into shape once the federal government, you know, cocks one of their rifles.
And they're going to be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, anything you say.
And we got to do it soon because Once China has enough money, then you're gonna end up with these corporations being like, hmm, a billion dollars from China or a billion dollars in the U.S.
Well, China's gonna give me a little bit extra.
They're gonna go with China.
That's why it's like you get to that point where China's got more value and then people are gonna just, already the NBA is bending over for them.
adam crigler
That is exactly what he was talking about.
tim pool
Bill Barr.
adam crigler
Yeah, I mean, that's what he's saying.
He's like, we have to be wary of what they're doing.
They are doing like this... I forget the... Blitzkrieg.
Oh, wow.
tim pool
That's what he called it?
adam crigler
That's straight up what he said.
tim pool
Wow, dude, it's getting spicy.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
China v. Retaliation.
adam crigler
Dude, he went off.
tim pool
Let's start with the main story here.
Federal law enforcement using unmarked vehicles to grab protesters off Portland streets.
Let's be honest, there's a word for this.
It's black bagging.
The story, I'm just gonna, I'm not gonna bury the lead on this one because I think it's hilarious.
Unmarked vehicles pull up, feds jump out, and then walk up to Antifa and just snatch him up.
Gone.
And you know what?
I mean, it's funny to think because I'm thinking about like when I was a kid, you know, watching, like when I was younger, watching V for Vendetta or any of these movies.
You'd imagine that anybody carrying out these governmental black baggings were the bad guys?
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
No, not here.
47 days these people have been allowed to throw bricks and molotovs trying to burn down a federal courthouse.
Yeah, you're not the good guys.
You're a bunch of crazy people.
And the local government won't enforce any of these laws.
So the feds are like, the easiest way to make arrests is just, to be fair, they're not showing up to their homes, you know, in the middle of the night and literally putting a black bag over their head and then cracking them with a truncheon or something.
They're waiting until they start walking away from the courthouse and then come around when they're by themselves and arrest them for the riot they just partook in.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
But it is still funny to call it, you know, them getting black bagged.
All right, let's read.
They got an update here.
They say, in the early hours of July 15th, after a night spent protesting, Ah, peaceful protesting.
That's what you call it when you throw bricks in a building and try to crack someone over the head with a hammer.
At the Multnomah County Justice Center and Marco Hatfield Federal Courthouse, Mark Pettibone and his friend Connor O'Shea decided to head home.
It had been a calm night compared to most protesting downtown.
Okay, I am no longer going to use the word protesting.
I'm not going to editorialize the way they do.
They say, uh, by 2 a.m.
law enforcement hadn't used any tear gas.
With only a few exceptions, both the Portland Police Bureau and federal law enforcement officers had stayed out of sight.
A block west of Chapman Square, Pettibone and O'Shea bumped into a group of people who warned them that people in camouflage were driving around the area in unmarked minivans grabbing people off the street.
So that was terrifying to hear, Pettibone said.
They had barely made it half a block when an unmarked minivan pulled up in front of them.
I see guys in camo, O'Shea said.
Four or five of them pop out, open the door, and it was just like, OS, I don't know who you are or what you want with us.
Federal law enforcement officers have been using unmarked vehicles to drive around downtown Portland and detain rioters since at least July 14th.
Personal accounts and multiple videos posted online show the officers driving up to people, detaining individuals with no explanation of why they are being arrested and driving off.
I'm going to stop right here and tell you about one of the most annoying things in the world to me.
What's that?
There's a really famous viral video from Occupy Wall Street where the woman is being arrested and she's yelling, I have not been read my rights.
They are not reading me my rights.
And I'm like, shut up.
They don't have to.
What do you think is going on?
Do you think they're going to get in trouble because they didn't Mirandize you?
They're not investigating you.
They watched you throw the brick.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So what people don't get is that reading someone's Miranda rights means they're investigating you and they need to collect evidence.
If the cop literally watches you throw a brick or swing a punch or obstruct a roadway, they don't need to read you your rights.
You just get arrested.
The evidence is their eyes and their witness statement.
I'm an officer.
The person swung at me.
There you go.
Go to court.
Your word versus their word.
I get it.
You know, see what happens.
Often the courts side with the cops.
It's not perfect.
But people seem to think that, like, no explanation for why they were being arrested.
They don't have to give you one!
And people also think that they get a phone call.
That's also not true either.
I want my phone call!
You don't get one.
If you're nice, they'll give you one.
They can contact your lawyer, though.
So you can tell them, you know, I need to talk to my lawyer.
adam crigler
Well, most times if you're in, like, the waiting area, like, in the cell, once you're, like, in the pen, there's a... They give you 50 cents.
For the most... I mean, they gave me 50 cents.
Probably depends on the jurisdiction.
tim pool
Because I'll say, they didn't give me 50 cents.
adam crigler
That's all I'm gonna say about that.
But there's a payphone that you can use.
You can call someone and collect, I'm sure.
tim pool
I got arrested for skateboarding once.
They took my shoelaces off my shoes.
That was really annoying because skater shoelaces are usually frayed.
And so putting them back in is a nightmare.
And I said, can I make a phone call?
And they said, yep.
And they walked me over to the phone.
That was it.
And then I couldn't get in touch with anybody.
And then I spent the night in jail.
And then the judge got really mad about it later.
But that's a different story.
But no, like, the journalists are writing that there's no explanation for why they're being arrested.
You were just at a riot.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like you're literally outside of a courthouse rioting.
They caught you.
They're arresting you.
So they say the tactic appears to be another escalation in federal force deployed on Portland City streets as federal officers and Trump have said they plan to quell nightly protests outside the federal courthouse and Multnomah County Justice Center that have lasted for more than six weeks.
Yeah, maybe they gotta do something, okay?
Let me ask you, what's the alternative?
Should the feds just like, plow in with cow catchers and just barrel through these rioters?
Are they gonna run out full speed and just start slamming people to the ground?
It's a conflict they're trying to avoid.
And this seems to be a more peaceful, less violent way to actually grab people who've been rioting.
I'm gonna show you this, check this out.
Acting Secretary Wolf condemns the rampant long-lasting violence in Portland.
The city of Portland has been under siege for 47 straight days by a violent mob, while local political leaders refuse to restore order to protect their city.
Each night, lawless anarchists, I take issue with that term, destroy and desecrate property, including the federal courthouse, and attack the brave law enforcement officers protecting it.
You know what, man?
You know what would happen if the rioters just went home?
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
Nothing would happen.
adam crigler
Yeah, nothing.
tim pool
The law enforcement officers would be sitting in the office inside the building, probably talking about, I don't know, the latest episode of... I don't know, is anybody talking about Westworld anymore?
That show's kind of gone off the rails.
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
What is anybody watching?
adam crigler
It came out and then it went.
tim pool
Yeah, like, really fell fast.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
What is it?
Whatever.
You get the point.
They're gonna be complaining about how there's no sports.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
They're gonna be sitting there being like, man, I can't wait for baseball to come back.
It's coming back next week out here.
unidentified
Next week?
adam crigler
A week from today?
tim pool
Yeah, that's what... It's been reported by some outlets.
But nothing would happen.
The federal law enforcement aren't marching through the street and targeting people.
But now they're trying to make it seem like that because they're literally attacking a courthouse trying to burn it down.
Right.
adam crigler
And most people are saying, well, the riots are over.
No one's rioting anymore.
When this has been going on for six weeks.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
tim pool
They say, Pettibone did not escape the federal officers.
I am basically tossed into the van and I had my beanie pulled over my face.
This is a violation of human rights.
I am on the side of the protesters.
I'm kidding.
adam crigler
Beanie lives matter.
tim pool
They pulled his beanie down.
adam crigler
How dare they?
tim pool
So they pulled my beanie down over my face so I couldn't see and they held my hands over my head.
Weird.
weird.
Petit Bonhonneau-Chez Bull said they couldn't think of anything they might have done to
end up targeted by law enforcement.
They attended violent riots regularly, but they said they aren't instigators, they don't
spray paint buildings, shine laser pointers at officers, or do anything else other than
attend riots.
Which law enforcement have regularly deemed unlawful assemblies.
Yes, because they're riots.
Have you seen the videos?
adam crigler
Yeah, they're crazy.
tim pool
They're just burning things.
adam crigler
They are not peaceful protests.
That is what is protected.
Thank you, some guy on Twitter.
tim pool
This is a great story.
Let's read.
Blinded by his hat in an unmarked minivan full of armed people dressed in camouflage and body armor who hadn't identified themselves, Pettibone said he was driven around downtown before being unloaded inside the building.
He wouldn't learn until after his release that he had been inside the federal courthouse.
Wow, that's amazing.
So, these people leave the courthouse during the riot.
The van pulls up, snatches them, brings them back.
That's crazy.
adam crigler
Yeah, it is.
tim pool
It was basically a process of facing many walls and corners as they patted me down and took my picture and rummaged through my belongings.
One of them said, this is a whole lot of nothing.
Pettibone said he was put into a cell.
Soon after, two officers came in to read him his Miranda rights.
Wow, that sounds like they're investigating him for probably conspiracy or something.
adam crigler
Yeah, maybe.
tim pool
They didn't tell him why he was being arrested.
He said they asked him if he wanted to waive his rights and answer some questions, but Pettibone declined and said he wanted a lawyer.
The interview was terminated, and about 90 minutes later he was released.
He said he did not receive any paperwork, citation, or record of his arrest.
And I didn't... Did you?
Did they give you... I didn't get anything. They handed me my skateboards.
Have a nice day.
And I walked out.
adam crigler
I... Yeah.
I don't want to talk about it. People expect so much.
tim pool
Oh.
I'm out.
adam crigler
I cannot confirm nor deny.
tim pool
I just happened to be wearing black on a sidewalk in downtown Portland at the time, and that apparently is grounds for detaining me.
You know what, man?
Spare me the BS.
I don't buy it.
I've seen the videos of the ongoing attacks, and you know what?
If you show up to an event where you know for 47 days they're rioting violently and they plan to do so, And they tell you to wear all black to help them, yeah, you'll be arrested for being an accomplice.
Now you may not, you know, the charges might not stick, you may get away with it, but they specifically say wear all black on purpose so that they can get away with crimes.
If you shield them, you're helping them, you're an accomplice.
They say in a statement the U.S.
Marshals Service declined to comment on the practice of using unmarked vehicles, but said their officers had not arrested Pettibone.
All United States Marshals Service arrestees have public records of arrest documenting their charges.
Our agency did not arrest or detain Mark James Pettibone.
Now that's weird.
adam crigler
Yeah, it is.
tim pool
Department of Homeland Security officials did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
It's like stop and frisk meets Guantanamo Bay, said attorney Juan Chavez, director of the Civil Rights Project at the Oregon Justice Resource Center.
Chavez has worked on litigation surrounding the weeks of rioting.
Yeah, okay.
He called the arrests terrifying.
You have laws regarding probable cause that can lead to arrests.
It sounds more like abduction.
It sounds like they're kidnapping people off the streets.
Let me ask you something.
If you got arrested because you were at a riot, and they decided not to charge you and they released you, would you be complaining about it?
adam crigler
No, I'd be stoked.
tim pool
I was in D.C.
during the inaugural riots.
Donald Trump was being inaugurated, rioting broke out, the police kettled the entire crowd, that's what it's called, and I was trapped inside.
They had told me I was arrested.
Eventually, we talked about it before, I was able to get out by just saying I'm pressed, and then eventually they pulled out the press, and I was very happy to have been released.
That's about it.
I'm not complaining.
I understand why they're arresting everybody.
adam crigler
They're trying to politicize it all, though.
That makes sense that they're complaining.
As we said earlier, it's a trap.
They wanted Trump to pull the trigger so they can use it against him.
unidentified
Look!
He's the authoritarian president we always thought he was!
tim pool
This proves it!
unidentified
See?
tim pool
Occupying army!
I was out peacefully protesting, and I was waving a sign, and then the bad men wearing all camouflage came and they took me, kidnapped me.
They pulled my beanie down!
You pulled my beanie down in the car?
Now that I can understand.
That is a courageous vile- I'm kidding.
Let me fix this.
You were at a violent riot, the riots have been going on for six weeks, and they were investigating you.
And you got temporarily detained.
You're lucky that's the worst of it.
adam crigler
And then released.
tim pool
And then released without charge.
adam crigler
He wasn't in for days.
tim pool
90 minutes.
adam crigler
Yeah.
Under two hours?
Are you serious?
And you're complaining?
tim pool
I got to spend something like 12 hours in jail.
adam crigler
Yeah, spending the night in jail sucks.
Because I was skateboarding in Chicago.
I also spent the night in jail.
It's not a fun thing to do.
tim pool
It was cold, it was bright, and I was on a concrete slab because I was skateboarding.
adam crigler
Someone really nice actually gave me some toilet paper to use as a pillow.
tim pool
You know, when I got arrested, this was down in Chicago, the jail was a big concrete block that you could sit on.
I think I used my shoe as a pillow.
There was no contact with anyone else and there were people screaming.
unidentified
Oh, that sucks.
tim pool
Like the whole night, screaming.
Sleeping with the lights on, cold, on a concrete slab.
Wasn't fun. I had no idea what time it was, how long I'd been in there.
Just no windows or anything. And then finally they came and let me out.
And they handed me my board back and they said something about like,
you have a court date, whatever.
When I went to court, the judge was like, What is this? Get out of my courtroom.
He was like, he was really angry.
Like, he was really offended, I think.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But they showed up.
They were trying to prosecute.
Like, the people who, there were security guards at a federal building who wanted me arrested, actually showed up.
And the judge was like, are you kidding me?
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Some 19-year-old kid is skateboarding, you know, on your building's sidewalk?
adam crigler
Yeah.
Don't you have better things to do?
Huh?
Go do better things.
tim pool
I didn't cry about it. I got released and then I was like, oh, now what?
Thank you.
And then I went to court. I was just sitting there and I was like, oh, now what?
And they told me to leave and that was it.
adam crigler
You know, what can you do?
tim pool
These people are like, oh, I've been arrested.
adam crigler
No, no, no.
I wasn't arrested.
I was released after 90 minutes.
tim pool
They didn't even arrest me!
You know what it is?
Maybe the real reason he's upset is because he's not good enough to be arrested.
Why aren't you arresting me?
Hey, wait, are you arresting him?
Come on, I've been riding here all month!
adam crigler
Are we going to show the video of them taking him?
tim pool
Do we have it?
Is it on there?
I don't think it's on there.
adam crigler
Oh, really?
tim pool
Yeah, I don't think they actually have it.
adam crigler
Oh, I mean, I've got it over here.
tim pool
There's a bunch.
Is it of that specific guy?
adam crigler
I don't know who it is, but it is two people walking up to a guy wearing all black and taking him in.
tim pool
Do you have it?
Did you transfer it over?
adam crigler
I mean, I have it right here.
I could give it to you.
Hold on.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then while you do that, I'll pull up this.
Video shows protesters get shipment of bats before Brooklyn Bridge Brawl.
Interesting.
They say surveillance video from outside City Hall appears to show protesters receiving a small shipment of bats before anti-cop activists clashed with officers on the Brooklyn Bridge.
The delivery was made by a car parked on the street near City Hall, one man retrieving six bats in the trunk.
Police say the bats were delivered so the anti-cop activists could confront a unity rally proceeding over the Brooklyn Bridge into Manhattan.
The unity rally included clergy, law enforcement, and community activists.
It's unclear if the city hall protesters used the bats in the wild Brooklyn Bridge brawl before opposing protesters.
So I guess you've seen the footage of the cops who have been bashed over the head?
adam crigler
Yeah, it's messed up.
And it was the same cop that was kneeling, kneeling with the protesters trying to like I don't want to use the word appease, you know, but to show solidarity, I guess, with them, you know.
And it's like, look, I'm here with you guys, I'll kneel with you.
And then he's one of the people that got beat over the head.
It was like, you don't care about that.
tim pool
So we got the, check this out, we got one of the black bag videos.
It's so nice watching some movement on arresting these Antifa people.
Looks like military or homeland security units.
Listen to the woman ask, use your words.
unidentified
Yeah.
What are you doing?
Use your words.
What are you doing?
Use your words.
What are you doing?
adam crigler
We got you, friend.
unidentified
Use your words.
What is going on?
tim pool
Look how he's dressed.
Who are you?
unidentified
NLG will get you out.
What's your name?
Tell us your name.
tim pool
The NLG will get you out.
unidentified
What is the NLG?
Okay, you're fine.
We'll get you out.
tim pool
National Lawyers Guild.
unidentified
We got you, friend.
adam crigler
We got you, friend.
unidentified
The fuck?
adam crigler
NLG!
Nothing happened.
unidentified
You just violated their rights!
tim pool
Oh, shut up.
Notice the individual.
Look how they're dressed.
He's got a bag, potentially something in it, but he's wearing a helmet.
What is the old saying the protesters like to say?
Why are you in riot gear?
I don't see a riot here.
So I'll say the same thing to this dude.
Why are you in riot gear, bro?
Were you coming expecting a riot?
Looks like you were.
Looks like there's been unrest and rioting for 47 days and you were down there with protective gear for some reason.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
That's not necessarily a crime or anything like that.
But they, it seems like they're investigating these people.
He probably matched the description.
Guess what?
They can arrest you.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Well, not arrest.
They can detain and investigate.
He didn't want to answer any questions.
They cut him loose.
There you go.
Don't, don't go to riots.
adam crigler
Now this isn't, we don't know exactly if that's who we were talking about before.
I don't remember the name of the man that we were talking about in the other article.
This is just an example of one of these minivans showing up and taking this person away.
tim pool
You know what, man?
You wanna engage in this kind of stuff?
I'm not surprised it's gonna happen.
What am I supposed to say?
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
You know, I was making the joke earlier about, you know, when I was a kid, you'd never actually expect the guys jumping out in the minivan and snatching someone off the street to be the good guys.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
But in this instance, if their choice is to, you know, fire a beanbag which hits somebody in the face and cracks their skull, or to just drive up in a car and pick one person up and start investigating, which would you pick?
What would you have us do?
adam crigler
The non-lethal action, always.
tim pool
What would you have us do to stop 47 days of rioting when the arrests don't work, and when they keep releasing these people without indictment?
What do you do?
So I think this is the more peaceful option.
You wait until they start walking away from the courthouse, then you pull up when they're alone, and you walk out and you arrest them.
And they didn't get arrested, they got investigated, detained.
That's the worst of it all.
adam crigler
And released in 90 minutes.
It's ridiculous.
tim pool
Yeah?
And they make it a big story because it fits their narrative that they're oppressed.
Right, exactly.
It's so crazy.
You don't get to throw a brick through a window, start a fire, and then go, help, help, I'm being repressed, when the police come and say you're under arrest.
It should be a song.
Well, how about we jump over to the next segment?
adam crigler
Yeah, let's do it.
tim pool
Because this one is... Oh, this.
This is triggering.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
adam crigler
This is stupid.
tim pool
How many of you guys follow Kaylee McEnany?
adam crigler
I do.
tim pool
Do you guys watch the press?
unidentified
I do.
adam crigler
Yeah, I do.
tim pool
It's almost like watching some kind of, like, verbal political MMA.
adam crigler
Yeah, and she's a beast.
tim pool
She's the best.
adam crigler
She's a freaking fighter, man.
It is such a pleasure to watch her shut them down.
tim pool
Weren't you saying they have like, her folder has tabs?
lydia smith
Yeah.
So they thought they were going to get another gotcha because they took a picture of her, her folder.
adam crigler
Yeah.
lydia smith
She has like 60 tabs.
She has like the economy.
She has the family.
She has the CDC.
Yeah.
adam crigler
What are you going to bring up this time?
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
What are you going to bring up?
She's got it.
I like it.
adam crigler
I really like it.
tim pool
She'll pull out, you know, someone will ask her something like, well, when it comes to the COVID, she'll go, hmm, interesting.
And then she like pulls some papers out and she's like, well, it says here.
adam crigler
Bring it on.
That's what it looks like.
She's just like, oh yeah?
Come on with it.
Bring it.
Bring it.
Well, I got the information.
tim pool
You may like seeing the media get smacked down, but they got her.
adam crigler
Sure.
tim pool
Ooh, they got her.
unidentified
Kayleigh McEnany.
adam crigler
Yeah, let's talk about it.
tim pool
They put her through the blender.
Actually, they're lying and taking her out of context, and we have one of the best examples of them doing it.
Now, I will admit, before we get started, poor choice of words from Kayleigh McEnany, and this is it.
This is literally like watching political MMA.
adam crigler
Yup.
tim pool
You're watching something, you know, two people are fighting.
One guy, you see him make a wrong step and the other guy goes, woom, and goes right for that punch.
You know, he sees you're off, you're off base, you're off balance.
unidentified
I got you.
Yup.
tim pool
That's what happened.
While she's normally this, you know, machine with all the facts, she unfortunately framed, phrased something.
Although the context was fine.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
The phrasing was a weapon out of context.
adam crigler
Oh, and they're using it.
tim pool
It's nuts.
We got this Twitter thread from Drew Holden.
He says they're lying to you.
Media outlets and personalities, plus other left-wingers, maliciously took a press secretary quote out of context to fraudulently make it sound like she didn't care about the science she went on to explain supports the move to reopen schools.
So here's what Kaylee tweeted.
Case study in media bias.
I said, the science is very clear on this.
The science is on our side here.
We encourage our localities and states to simply follow the science, open our schools.
But leave it to the media to deceptively suggest I was making the opposite point.
And now, from Drew Holden, we get a wave of like every single outlet lying about this.
adam crigler
Every single one of them.
tim pool
This is nuts, man.
So when I first saw this thing from Acosta, I was like, did she really say this?
Check it out.
He says, I'm as shocked as you surely are that Acosta of CNN is leading the charge to pretend someone from the Trump administration made a point they obviously didn't.
Jim Acosta tweeted, the White House press secretary on Trump's push to reopen schools.
The science should not stand in the way of this.
Jim Acosta had many more characters he could have used.
He could have clarified what she really meant.
You could have listened to Kayleigh McEnany's full speech and understood the context of what she was saying.
I'm not going to bury this one.
No suspense.
What she should have said is, the science will prove we were correct.
The full context of what she was saying is that When the science is released, you will see it supports us.
That's what she meant.
Listen to the full speech.
The science should not stand in the way of this.
An unfortunate way of phrasing it.
adam crigler
But you said it right there.
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
Listen to the full speech.
Everybody needs to do it.
Everyone needs to be doing this.
All the time.
I watch everything she puts out.
Everything she puts out.
I'm now listening to it all.
tim pool
This is why people don't trust the media.
adam crigler
I know you're right.
tim pool
This is why when they shouldn't when Trump was doing his daily coronavirus press briefings, his approval rating reached the highest point of his presidency in aggregate, like not a single poll for every single poll.
It was the highest it had ever been.
And so immediately the media is like, shut him down.
Stop letting him speak.
and then all the networks shut down because, oh, what's that?
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Well, you can criticize him for the way he speaks and his strategies and all that stuff.
When you learn the truth about what he's saying, you're like, no, he's not actually that bad.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
So this is what they do.
I'm going to stress this point for you.
She clearly said the science on our side.
When she opened, she was saying, I was talking to the president and he, and he said, I want, I want schools fully
reopened.
The science should not stand in the way on this.
The science should not stand in the way of this.
We're going to do blah blah blah.
The science is on our side.
Saying that in the future, the science won't be stopping them because it's on their side.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So simple.
The President has said unmistakably that he wants schools to open.
adam crigler
When he says open, he means open in full.
words was poor.
tim pool
Yup.
Yup.
unidentified
Check this out.
tim pool
Here's, uh, who is this person?
Wei- uh, Weijia Zhang.
CBS News tweeted, "...the president has said unmistakably that he wants
schools to open.
When he says open, he means open in full.
Kids being able to attend each and every day at school, the science should not stand in
the way of this."
Full, uh, from the White House podium, science should not stand in the way of reopening schools.
This is everything.
Look at this.
Jim Roberts.
unidentified
Stunning.
tim pool
Jaw-dropping.
unidentified
Brave.
tim pool
The White House prime secretary just called for schools to reopen, saying that science should not stand in the way of this.
This is why I never believe anything anymore from the media, and I always have to dig in.
And there have been a few times where I've actually gotten caught up, and I'm like, I shouldn't have fallen for that one.
I should have known better.
Now I'm over it.
Now they could be like, Donald Trump today announced that he was going to launch a nuclear missile into the sun.
I'd be like, yeah, no he didn't.
I don't believe you.
They could be like, Donald Trump announced that he went and bought a Big Mac.
I'd be like, no he didn't.
You're lying.
Donald Trump came out and said hello.
No he didn't.
That's not true.
He called you fake news.
I don't believe it.
They could say Donald Trump smiled and waved.
Not buying it.
He was probably scratching his nose.
For real.
Everything's out of context.
This is insane.
Look at this.
The Washington Post, White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany, the science should not stand in the way.
How absolutely insane has media become?
adam crigler
Little do they know, the science actually proves that schools should be reopened.
tim pool
Look at this one, look at this one.
This dude from NBC, quote, the science should not stand in the way of this, Press Secretary says.
Then he tweets, McEnany later added the science, in her words, is on their side.
It's perfectly safe to open.
adam crigler
Oh, that's a nice little, uh... Guardian.
tim pool
Bill Nye!
adam crigler
Try to sneak it in there.
tim pool
Oh, great.
unidentified
Look at this.
tim pool
Bill Nye.
He goes, he goes way into it.
White House says science should not stand in the way of reopening schools.
I guess it's good to have it spelled out.
The administration is generally not in favor of science.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Might surprise a few of us.
My, oh, my.
Science out of the way.
adam crigler
Bill Nye.
Come on, Bill.
tim pool
No, he's, you know, he's not a scientist.
He's not a scientist.
adam crigler
No, he's not.
tim pool
He gets dragged all the time.
He's an engineer.
Exactly.
He doesn't have any, he doesn't even actually have any, like, hard science degrees, I guess.
He was a comedian.
There's not even a point in just going through all of this.
Look at this.
Popat, DNC War Room, Ted Lieu.
He's a politician.
All of these lies, man.
Wow, this is a huge thread.
The Lincoln Project?
That's funny.
Isn't he a Russian? And of course, J. Rubin, another star for the Lincoln Project. Oh, man,
the Krasensteins, Mrs. Krasenstein. Look at this. Any chance they get. Look how huge this thread is.
unidentified
Orange man bad. We got him, everybody. But hold on, hold on.
tim pool
Look at all of these mainstream news outlets saying all of this stuff. Right. Now, now try
and have a conversation with one of your one of your friends who doesn't isn't in politics,
doesn't watch a show like this.
Smash the like button and share this video, by the way.
adam crigler
You know what I'm doing mentally while you're saying all that, right?
tim pool
Smashing the like button?
adam crigler
Oh no, I'm mentally prepping for those people that you just mentioned.
tim pool
Yep.
adam crigler
Because I know they're gonna bring this up.
Oh yeah, Adam?
Well, check this out.
tim pool
Boom!
And here's what they're gonna do.
They're gonna go, CBS, The Washington Post, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Ted Lieu, Adam Schiff, prove me wrong.
unidentified
I have 12 sources all proving this!
adam crigler
And then I'll actually, this is what I'll do.
I'll drop the entire speech of what she said, and I'll be like, show me where, you know, where she's saying the science doesn't prove them correct.
Because that's not what she's saying.
tim pool
The science is very- Do you know what they're gonna say?
adam crigler
I don't have the time.
unidentified
Your one dark-faced pony soldier.
tim pool
They're going to say, I just showed you 12 sources.
You sending me a YouTube video proves nothing.
adam crigler
That's exactly what I have been told when they give me that kind of stuff.
And I go, all of these things that you're giving me is allegedly this happened.
Allegedly this happened.
And I'm like, that's not showing me that something happened.
I know.
I listened to her speech.
That is not what she said.
That is not what she meant.
She's saying the science is on her side, so it shouldn't stand in the way of reopening schools.
Period.
tim pool
Done.
Exactly.
Exactly.
When you listen to the full statement, you're like, oh, let's see what the journalists do.
I really do believe that one of the big things that divides the left and the right today is the ability to understand nuance, context, sarcasm, irony.
It really does.
This is why the NPC meme is so apt.
adam crigler
Yep, you're right.
tim pool
Because if she said, you know, they listen to what, you know what, I'm gonna give you the best example.
When Donald Trump said Hillary Clinton acid-washed her server.
Right.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
All the NPC people went, she put acid on her server?
What, that would break it.
Let me check Snopes real quick.
So then NBC... Snopes said... NBC issued this.
NBC said, fact check, Hillary Clinton did not use a corrosive chemical on her computers.
lydia smith
Oh man.
tim pool
Yes, thanks.
It was not speaking literally.
adam crigler
Yes, of course.
tim pool
But think about jokes.
How they're like, you can't say that!
It's a joke, I didn't mean it.
I think Ricky Gervais has a bit like this where he's talking about how he was joking about how he hated pretzels on airplanes and he wants peanuts, but you can't have peanuts because one person might get sick.
He's like, I don't literally want everyone to die from inhaling peanut dust or something like that.
It's like, I know, it's a joke.
He was making a joke.
It was meant to be exaggerated.
Of course we know Ricky Gervais doesn't want people to die from peanut allergies.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
That's why it's silly.
It's meant to be humorous by being extreme.
They can't understand these things.
So Kaley McEnany says something, they take it 100% literally, and now you have all these sources proving she said it.
And now I can just see it, man.
They're all gonna be running around like gobbling turkeys.
adam crigler
Echo Chamber?
The Echo Chamber is running rampant right now.
That's what we just saw.
That was a thread of the Echo Chamber.
tim pool
This is my job.
This is what I do.
I wake up, I see the news, and it says, Donald Trump today announced that he was going to be executing, you know, dogs and puppies.
And then I'll be like, whoa, that's crazy.
I better watch that video of him giving the speech.
And then what they'll do is it'll be like this.
It'll be Donald Trump, quote, it's time to start executing puppies and baby kittens.
And then I'll be like, whoa, and everyone's like, this is insane, I can't believe this.
And then you watch it and it'll be Trump going, can you believe these crazy people who would say something like it's time to start executing puppies and baby kittens?
What a horrible thing to say.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
They attribute the words to him.
They do things like that.
adam crigler
I know, I see it.
tim pool
You're right.
Even this right here, she's actually, it appears she's quoting Trump.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
She's like, I talked to the president.
He said this, this, and this, the science should not, the science
should not stand in the way of this.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
You know, we want schools reopened that the science has already
proven that we're correct.
And then she, I think she makes a specific reference too, but
then they don't care.
I'm wondering, they attribute it to her.
adam crigler
They don't care.
tim pool
Yeah.
You're wondering?
lydia smith
I wonder how much of it was tone.
I wonder if maybe he was saying something like, the science shouldn't stand in the way.
I mean, it should come up with the numbers that we're expecting.
tim pool
That's exactly it.
lydia smith
And she's just relaying it kind of flatly.
I mean, because she's, you know... But not even that!
tim pool
You have to wait for someone to finish, and then if you're confused, you ask questions.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's what journalists are supposed to do.
unidentified
Ms.
tim pool
McKennedy, you said the science should not stand in the way.
You're not suggesting that you would ignore science that's not in favor.
Could you clarify that statement?
adam crigler
No, no, no, Tim.
Come on.
They don't care about that.
tim pool
They don't do real journalism.
adam crigler
They got her.
That's it.
unidentified
No one clarified.
adam crigler
Period.
unidentified
Got her.
That's it.
adam crigler
That's all that mattered.
They got her.
Boom.
Thank you.
You can leave now, press secretary.
We got what we came for.
tim pool
You know what happened once she walked off the podium?
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
There was silence of all the journalists sitting there for about five seconds, and then they slowly look at each other.
Finally we got a win guys.
She's been kicking our butts for well long.
unidentified
other popping a beer like we got her finally we got a win guys she's been
tim pool
kicking her butts for well long it looks like it looks like we got them whoa
unidentified
that's a lot of jobs All right, go ahead.
tim pool
So first, first, I don't know what this source is.
Normally, I use everything that's certified by NewsGuard.
adam crigler
Whoa.
You're not using a certified source, Tim?
tim pool
I'm not.
adam crigler
I'm clutching my pearls.
tim pool
But there's one reason.
There's one reason.
Uh, this was actually shared by a blue check journalist saying we've got serious problems.
adam crigler
So that's your source?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, but I didn't pull them up so I probably should have.
But they also, uh, you know, it's basically, whatever.
We know that Vox and the Guardian have laid people off.
We know that news has generally been taking a hit.
This is like, I don't know what this source is, World News Daily or something worldwide.
But they say newsroom laughs at record high.
Challenger Gray and Christmas found that there have been 11,027 job cuts announced this year compared to 4,087 in the first half of 2019.
The first half of 2019 was considered to be like the apocalypse.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Like 2019 itself was just like, oh, they were calling it a bloodbath.
adam crigler
Little do they know.
tim pool
It's getting worse.
adam crigler
What 2020 would bring.
tim pool
Yeah.
So Vox is laying people off.
You know why that's funny?
Because this is the outlet where Matthew Iglesias, the co-founder, was just canceled.
adam crigler
Oh yeah, that's right.
tim pool
And now he's tweeting very cryptic, help, help, I'm trapped, you know, send help tweets.
He's tweeting things like, I'd like to talk about this, but I can't.
And you're like, that's weird.
And he randomly tweeted, I have an opinion to share, but I won't.
adam crigler
It's like, thanks.
I better follow him for all that breaking news.
tim pool
He's basically got duct tape on his mouth and he's going, Well, dude, you made the tape.
It's your company.
Meanwhile, the other founder is, like, ragging on him.
lydia smith
Yeah, he's a co-founder, right?
tim pool
Yeah, Matthew's a co-founder and Ezra Klein, like, threw some shade, some subtweet shade at him.
unidentified
Like, you know when people talk about free speech, they're actually talking about their power.
tim pool
And then he's like, I would comment on this, but I've made a commitment, so I won't.
So the context is basically that Matthew Glazier signed this Harper's letter condemning cancel culture, and so then his other co-founders are like basically ragging on him, and he can't say anything, because he has been cancelled for signing the letter.
You know what, man?
I have no sympathy for people who want to dance in the highway and get hit by a car.
I mean, I have a little bit, to be honest.
You don't want anyone getting hurt.
I don't want Matthew Glacius, co-founder of Vox, to be silenced.
I don't want anyone to be silenced.
adam crigler
Yeah, I don't want anyone getting hit by a car.
tim pool
However, what am I supposed to do?
unidentified
It's like, you're dancing in the highway, you get hit by a car.
tim pool
What are we gonna do?
Are we gonna create a society where we put, like, rubber padding everywhere?
Cars can only go 10 miles an hour.
Everybody's gotta wear... You know what?
Everyone goes in a bubble.
You ever see those bubbles people have?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Where they run around in them and then bounce into each other?
adam crigler
Hamster balls?
Is that... Well, it's like... I mean, basic... Human hamster balls?
tim pool
Whatever.
Yeah, they're big, inflatable bubbles.
adam crigler
Uh-huh.
tim pool
And your feet are out of them.
adam crigler
Oh, no, I don't... Oh, okay, now I know what you're talking about.
tim pool
Yeah, and then everyone runs and jumps into each other.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, that's our expectation for society.
adam crigler
Oh, goodness.
tim pool
Then we can finally feel safe, right?
adam crigler
No, I wouldn't be able to feel the feeling of the skateboard cracking into my shin, though.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
I need that.
I need that pain.
tim pool
Skateboards will be made of some kind of soft foam.
adam crigler
Oh, no.
tim pool
With a very thin plastic.
You will not be allowed to... You'll have to strap your feet in on both of the trucks.
adam crigler
Oh, great.
tim pool
So, no tricks.
And you can't push.
Someone can push you one time.
adam crigler
That's it.
tim pool
We're all gonna wear gray jumpsuits.
Everyone's heads will be shaven.
adam crigler
Equilibrium.
tim pool
Totally.
Everyone must wear the same thing.
In order to eliminate all biases and all prejudice and make everyone finally the same and to be truly safe... Peaceful.
unidentified
Peaceful.
tim pool
Everybody's gotta... You know, I used to think it would be a great jumpsuit.
Now I don't think that would work.
Because you can still see someone's figure.
adam crigler
Like... Oh, good point.
tim pool
You're too tall.
adam crigler
Whoa, whoa.
You're too thin.
Right.
You're too wide.
tim pool
Well, no, no, no.
adam crigler
You're too short.
tim pool
Too thin won't be an issue because everyone will be starving.
There's not going to be any food in the new communist utopia.
adam crigler
So what?
Everyone's going to be thin?
tim pool
Everyone's going to be starving.
adam crigler
I hope not.
tim pool
Well, that's communism.
adam crigler
I hope it doesn't happen.
tim pool
But that's communism.
adam crigler
You're right.
tim pool
So when we have the communist utopia, they won't have to worry about people being too tall because they'll all be starving, so they'll stop growing at a certain point.
So everyone can just wear... It's going to rest on your head, and it's going to be a big white cylinder.
adam crigler
Like a lampshade.
tim pool
Right, exactly.
But covering all the way to the floor, and it'll just be cylinders moving around, but you can't talk.
You have to type, and then the robot talks for you.
Hello.
Good day.
adam crigler
Welcome to the Timcast IRL.
tim pool
I wouldn't use my real voice, but then you would know I am male.
adam crigler
You must smash the like button.
unidentified
Boop.
adam crigler
Now.
unidentified
Boop.
adam crigler
Smash.
lydia smith
Gently.
tim pool
Think about what they're trying to implement with all this critical race theory and gender theory and all this stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
How do you stop any of it?
adam crigler
I don't know.
Keep talking about it.
Logically.
That's what I'm doing as much as I can.
tim pool
No, no, no.
I mean, how do they win?
adam crigler
Oh.
tim pool
How do they stop white supremacy?
adam crigler
I don't know.
It feels like they're trying to convince everybody that everyone's white supremacists.
tim pool
Well, so the way I look at it is the only way you can actually have their version of equality with no privilege would be like I described it.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Everybody is, you know, starving and small.
They wear giant lampshade things on their heads that go all the way down so you can't see.
It floats like two feet from your body and you move around in shuffling.
adam crigler
Or like Cousin It wigs.
tim pool
Right, exactly.
Yeah, you don't know what it is.
adam crigler
Just hair.
tim pool
And everyone's required to talk with a very high pitch.
adam crigler
Or like Sia, you know, you never see her face.
tim pool
Oh yeah.
But that's the only way to solve it, right?
adam crigler
I guess so.
tim pool
I was thinking this before when I used to work for, when I worked at O'Hare Airport.
Because of all the security restrictions, that made no sense.
I was like, maybe the future will be if you want to fly, you got to wear a jumpsuit, you can't bring anything with you.
Because they're slowly just banning, like nail clippers are banned, and shampoo is banned.
And the stupidest thing was, the security protocols made zero sense.
Because if you worked for the company, you would just drive in.
You would drive up, you'd pull up to a checkpoint, they'd wave, you'd show them your ID, they'd wave you in.
They wouldn't search you.
You could bring whatever you wanted.
And then you were in the airport, with whatever you wanted.
adam crigler
Geez.
tim pool
Yeah.
Not only that- Well, this was a while ago, right?
Still, it's the same way.
adam crigler
Oh, really?
tim pool
So, well, I don't know about the employee parking lot, but I can tell you that they would always tell us, if you're coming to work, You're not supposed to go in that way.
to enter what's called the bag room. It's like when you go to the baggage carousels,
there's a door and you can just swipe and the door opens and now you are in the secured area.
So they would be like, well you're not supposed to go in that way. We want you to go through
security because even if you're an employee you go through security. But I'm sensing a but coming.
The but is that you have to have the door there so that the employees can fix problems.
So people would show up, walk right up, and not go through security and just swipe and walk on in.
Or people, like literally everybody who drove in, you'd pull up to a checkpoint, they'd be like, how's it going?
Hi.
Swipe your card, have a nice day.
adam crigler
Morning Jerry!
tim pool
And you bring your car in!
And I was just like, how stupid is it that they're gonna ban all of these things?
I could literally fill my trunk up with nail clippers.
And they'd open it and be like, you got a lot of nail clippers there, Tim.
And I'd be like, that's right.
And be like, have a nice day, buddy.
adam crigler
I like my nails cut perfectly.
tim pool
No, I'd be like, listen, listen.
adam crigler
Every hour.
tim pool
I'm telling you, my new business, a subscription nail clipper service.
I'm telling you, I'm gonna be rich.
They'd be like, yeah, great, go for it, bye bye.
adam crigler
Underground airport nail clippers.
I open my trench coat, I'm like, you need some nail clippers?
I got the nail clippers.
tim pool
I see those nails are a little long.
They make you throw those clippers away?
unidentified
Right here.
tim pool
I got you.
They wouldn't care.
adam crigler
You need toenail clippers?
Oh, I got fingernail clippers?
Toenail clippers?
tim pool
Cuticle cutters.
adam crigler
You got a cat?
tim pool
I got a cat nail clipper too.
The point is though, I used to think about that and then now that we're in this era of social justice, everything's offensive, everyone's privileged.
How do you remove privilege?
You know what colorism is?
adam crigler
Sounds familiar, but whatever.
tim pool
It's a social justice term meaning that lighter-skinned people have more privilege than darker-skinned people, I guess?
Is that how you do it?
lydia smith
Yeah, I would say so.
And I actually have something to say about this because I know someone's going to mention, maybe in Super Chats, a book called Harrison Bergeron, which is like a dystopian story where everyone is equal.
And that means people with a sense of pitch have like these things installed in their ears where you can't hear anything and you can't sing and you're all the same height.
You have like your shins broken so you can do all this stuff and it's horrible.
Dystopia.
It's awful.
Have you read it?
I haven't read it.
I think I listened to it.
tim pool
I like to imagine what the world would be like.
adam crigler
That's the same.
tim pool
In their happy utopia.
They'll feel great.
adam crigler
You have an audiobook?
That's basically... You read the book.
Yeah, I mean... You listened to the audiobook?
lydia smith
Yeah, I did, yeah.
Yeah, so that's... It's a really interesting book.
Short story.
Yeah.
adam crigler
You've dug into it.
lydia smith
But yeah, it's horrifying.
I think you're onto something.
tim pool
You want to talk about something horrifying?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
You ready to talk about something truly horrifying?
unidentified
Yes.
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
You know what we're going to talk about next?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
We didn't mention this in the opener.
lydia smith
No.
adam crigler
No, I don't think we did.
tim pool
Should we do it?
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
I don't care.
lydia smith
It's important.
tim pool
You don't care?
adam crigler
I mean, it needs to be talked about.
It's crazy.
It blew me away this morning.
tim pool
This is possibly the most terrifying story I've ever read.
And I mean it.
Let me give you the gist in Los Angeles.
They're arresting young boys and then forcefully administering estrogen to undergo some kind of experimental behavioral treatment that they claim is to treat some kind of delinquency or criminality.
But there's a family now suing, saying that a 16-year-old was forcefully given estrogen.
Forcefully.
They told him he had no choice.
adam crigler
And not only that, the parents had no idea.
tim pool
No one knew.
adam crigler
They didn't find out until a year or two later.
tim pool
No, it was a month later, I think.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
Well, maybe the... The lawsuit is now... I've read into multiple different... It's not just this.
tim pool
It's happened other places.
adam crigler
Oh, yeah.
It's been going on.
This is not new.
tim pool
So this is some kind of weird experimental forced gender transition on young boys.
adam crigler
Yeah, some sort of, like, perverted eugenic system.
It's messed up.
Go ahead.
Get into it.
tim pool
Boy 16 was given estrogen for behavioral disorder while in LA Juvenile Hall, suit alleges.
I don't think that's a fair headline.
Because the suit is alleging that the treatment given to him had nothing to do with this disorder.
They're saying it was medical battery.
The headline should actually read, Boy 16 was forcefully administered estrogen against his will without his family's knowledge.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
That's it?
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
They say, This opening line, dude.
A 16-year-old boy being held at a Los Angeles County Juvenile Hall developed enlarged breasts after he was prescribed estrogen to treat a behavioral disorder, a move that baffled doctors who said the treatment defied medical logic, according to a lawsuit filed last month.
And that says to me, that is a lie.
They're experimenting on these kids.
It's an experiment.
You know what I think it was?
I think, technically, you can argue it was for this behavioral disorder.
I think these doctors, in my opinion, are thinking, hey, if testosterone makes young men aggressive, perhaps giving them estrogen will make them no longer commit crimes, right?
adam crigler
Them taking it upon themselves to make that decision scares me.
tim pool
Well, that's called human experimentation.
And that's what they're doing.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
What's crazy is, we can see it.
You read this story.
The L.A.
Times has confirmed medical records.
This kid was being given estrogen.
Yep.
unidentified
L.A.
tim pool
Times says it's a fact.
adam crigler
And fellow doctors are going, this is not, oh, it says right here, down here, it says, estrogen is not a treatment for ODD.
I cannot be more emphatic about that.
McGough said, you won't find a reference anywhere that supports the use of estrogen for ODD.
So they're, they're, they're lying.
It's not proven.
It's not a thing.
They're making it up.
They're, they're just going, maybe it'll work.
tim pool
I'll tell you, let's just do it.
This is called, um, what is it called?
ODD.
What does it stand for?
What is it called?
lydia smith
I don't remember.
unidentified
Sorry.
tim pool
Behavioral condition by patients.
They don't give you the full.
It's defiant disorder or something like that.
I don't think I have that.
lydia smith
I forget what the O stands for.
adam crigler
I'm sorry.
Oppositional defiant disorder.
lydia smith
There you go.
tim pool
There it is.
Yeah.
Think about what that means.
Oppositional defiant disorder.
What you're a young kid who won't sit down and shut up.
They say that the treatment is therapy.
Family therapy.
adam crigler
It sounds like they just need a strong father figure.
tim pool
Yes.
Reminds me of that South Park joke we talked about before.
Where the teacher is like, I'm gonna do a non-medical treatment for ADD.
Oh yeah.
And then he's like, notice the child is unfocused and won't pay attention.
Watch as I administer the treatment.
And then he smacks the kid.
unidentified
Sit down and shut up!
tim pool
And the kid just stops and he goes, now you can see the child is focused and doing his homework.
Let's try the next child.
That's basically what it is, okay?
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
You know, so, look at this.
The lawsuit described the treatment as experimental.
The doctor who prescribed the estrogen, Danny Wang, could not be reached for comment.
They say that they've checked the medical records.
That's legit, man.
Wang prescribed a daily regimen of two milligrams of estrogen to be taken in pill form according to medical records.
The boy's parents were not aware that he had been diagnosed with ODD or was undergoing treatment until late July 2019.
Doctors said the treatments should not have been carried out without the parent's consent.
adam crigler
Absolutely.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
adam crigler
What should not be carried out, period.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
And then also without the parent's consent.
lydia smith
You know what one of the side effects of high estrogen in men is?
adam crigler
What?
lydia smith
Infertility.
tim pool
Yep.
lydia smith
Yeah, so they just ruined his life.
unidentified
Potentially, yeah.
tim pool
But was 13 doses enough to make him infertile?
lydia smith
I don't know.
I hope not.
I mean, it made him have, it made him develop, you know, breast tissue.
unidentified
Yep.
Oops.
lydia smith
So maybe so.
tim pool
The lawsuit says that, it doesn't say directly they're doing this to other kids, but it basically says the plaintiffs allege that other, you know, that young males are being prescribed estrogen in this facility.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Man, could you imagine this?
I'm going to say it.
I'm going to go ham on this one.
Every single person, every single time I mention, you've got to speak up and stand up against the craziness, the insanity.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But I have kids.
unidentified
OK.
All right.
tim pool
Well, let me let you know.
Give me a call when your kid's been forcefully administered estrogen.
Yeah.
There was one post where I'm not entirely sure I read that the first treatment was an injection and then after that they gave him pills.
But I don't know if that's actually I don't think that's in the L.A.
Times story.
It may have been in the lawsuit.
adam crigler
Yeah, I saw that.
That's what spawned me down this spiral of learning about this today is when you tweeted it out about the injection.
And I was just like, what did I just read?
tim pool
So they were giving the kid a bunch of vaccines, too.
So they gave him, like, three different injections.
adam crigler
What are they doing in this place?
What kind of a juvenile hall is this place?
It blows me away that, I mean... Low income?
Yeah, well, we talked about California being on, like, the forefront of, like, you know, cutting-edge stuff, and it's like... They're ahead of things, yeah.
Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and roll that back, because they're definitely going back in time.
When was the last time people were experimenting on human?
tim pool
Forced lobotomies.
Electroshock therapy.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, we got rid of that.
I guess we didn't.
It's still prevalent.
tim pool
Look at this.
adam crigler
It's happening right now.
Let's be careful.
tim pool
Prevalent.
It's happening.
adam crigler
Okay, it's happening.
tim pool
Yeah, so I'm very careful because I recorded something on this earlier.
We have this lawsuit, this one facility, these doctors, it may be just this facility.
adam crigler
I hope that's the case.
tim pool
Exactly, exactly.
So I don't want to get ahead of myself and act like it's everywhere, it's happening here, and that's enough, I think, to make sure we're being vigilant, calling this out to prevent it from happening in the future.
adam crigler
Absolutely.
tim pool
Because what you've got to understand is that if you take a young person who is not dysphoric, And forcefully administer reassignment therapy or treatment, you're gonna make them dysphoric.
adam crigler
Yeah, absolutely.
tim pool
This kid became depressed, has to get surgery now.
That's what they say, the kid requires... Yeah, let me see if I can...
Look at this.
Probation officials and the teen's attorney, Wesley Ouchy, declined to say why he was in custody.
They say Ouchy said the boy, now 17, was released in April and will require surgery to treat the physical issues he developed as a result of the estrogen treatment.
adam crigler
That's messed up.
tim pool
That's crazy, man.
This is some of the craziest stuff I've ever heard.
adam crigler
Yeah, me too.
tim pool
And we could get banned for even talking about it.
adam crigler
Someone in the chat just said, that explains Antifa.
unidentified
What, forcefully administering... Too much estrogen.
adam crigler
It was a good comment.
lydia smith
Just as an aside.
tim pool
Man.
So the treatments only stopped because this kid was being bullied.
He got acne all over his body.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Started growing breasts and the other kids started making fun of him
And so he started refusing the reason he didn't refuse in the first place was because he was basically told
That if he gets any markups in juvie, they'll hold him until he's 18 23 or 26
Wow, he's 16. So they were like you want to spend the next several years here
Resist.
adam crigler
That sounds forced to me.
tim pool
Oh yeah.
According to the lawsuit the kid said the nurse told him he had to get medication and he initially refused saying I wasn't told I was gonna get any medication and she said it's for a node in your chest that needs to be treated.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
And then he said I don't want it she said you can't you can't refuse it has to be done and the security guard there said you can't refuse you have to do it.
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
He said he was scared that if he resisted they'd write him up and then he'd be in juvie for the next several years so he just let him do it.
Then he started taking the treatment because he had no choice and only resisted after 13
doses and people started attacking him, making fun of him.
adam crigler
Man, when I hear about people messing with kids, I, man, it pisses me off.
I want to say a lot more than we can right now on this live show.
tim pool
They're going after kids, man.
adam crigler
I can't stand it.
tim pool
Remember when Mario Lopez said a three-year-old can't... What exactly did he say about a three-year-old?
lydia smith
He said that a three-year-old shouldn't be transitioning.
tim pool
No, no, he said something like a three-year-old doesn't know if they're trans or something.
lydia smith
Yeah, he was basically spitting facts.
tim pool
He was forced to apologize for that.
I'll be, I'll be, I'll be, you know, look, I can say this, I'm not a doctor, but I don't think Mario Lopez had to apologize for that.
That's insane.
That's, that's, that's, that's the, you know, the level of crazy things are getting with this kind of intersectionalism.
Now you've got in the federal government, time, racist, that one of the, one of the things released by the, by the army was that using housing taxes to pay for public schools is white supremacy.
That's just... I tell you this, man, as we talk a lot about China, and we're going to segue over to that in just a second, it really does feel like the bonds that make a civilization function are being torn apart in the United States and in many parts of Europe.
adam crigler
And being labeled white.
tim pool
Right, like specifically time and hard work.
adam crigler
Or the nuclear family.
Just having solid parents, working hard, being respectful.
How does that make any sense?
tim pool
So you said that pamphlet was from the 90s?
adam crigler
From 1990.
tim pool
So here's the context.
There's a pamphlet we read the other day.
Where it's like listing all of the things about whiteness.
Some of it included working hard to succeed.
Time.
Adhering to schedules.
unidentified
What was some of the other stuff?
adam crigler
Being religious.
Working before play.
tim pool
Oh yeah, saving up for the future.
adam crigler
Looking into the future, preparing for the future.
tim pool
Yep, was whiteness.
And listen, they talk about abolishing this stuff.
adam crigler
So this was going viral, it was at the African American... It was posted in the National African American History Museum, the official Smithsonian website.
And someone actually, and I posted this on Facebook, I'm like, this is crazy, like, look what's going on.
Someone wrote, one of the same people, they're all the same, you know, went on there and said, wow, Adam, you're really going into some fringe, fringe things and posting fringe stuff and really acting like it's mainstream media.
I'm like, this is from the Smithsonian National History Museum.
tim pool
The museum.
adam crigler
Yeah, like, how are you going to convince me that that's fringe?
This is what, did you read it, dude?
unidentified
Yep.
adam crigler
Read it and try to convince me that this isn't crazy.
tim pool
It's not fringe.
adam crigler
They blow right past it and go, how dare you post this fringe stuff?
And I'm like, this is what they're teaching people.
What are you talking about?
tim pool
Welcome to the real resistance.
How long will they allow us to exist on their airwaves?
adam crigler
Get this though.
Someone else posted.
Well, they're right.
That's it, period.
I'm like, did you just... you think time is white?
You're telling me being polite is white?
Being polite is white, really.
So all those times that you were polite, he was very... I only have good memories of all these people, honestly, whenever I've interacted with them in life.
So every time they were nice to me.
lydia smith
Now you know.
adam crigler
They were being white.
tim pool
Hey look man, I'll tell you what, there's some light at the end of the tunnel I guess.
adam crigler
What's that?
tim pool
When everything falls apart, the people who retain schedules, hard work.
adam crigler
Good point.
tim pool
Family structures.
adam crigler
Yes.
tim pool
They're gonna be alright.
adam crigler
You're absolutely right.
tim pool
These are not, you know, these are not things that are white culture.
These are things that successful cultures in general use.
Notably, I don't know, the Chinese, the Japanese.
Yep.
Literally every single country.
I'm sorry, all of them.
adam crigler
Humans.
Human civilization has lasted this long because of that list right there.
Who created agrarian agriculture?
tim pool
Was that like Egypt?
Who created agrarian agriculture?
Oh gosh.
What was that?
adam crigler
Was that like Egypt?
tim pool
Not sure.
Ancient, you know, Middle Eastern.
adam crigler
They grew crops.
But actually, that doesn't make sense because we were hunter-gatherers.
And then once we started farming, we were able to start sitting in one spot.
And that was in Egypt, in one of the areas.
tim pool
The funniest thing is, let's say we go all the way back.
adam crigler
They weren't white.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
Let's go all the way back in time.
All the way, all the way back in time to a very, very early man, whatever, whatever.
adam crigler
Sure.
tim pool
And hunter-gatherers.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
OK.
Did the hunter-gatherers have a concept of seasons?
adam crigler
Probably.
lydia smith
For sure.
tim pool
Yes.
lydia smith
They're gathering.
adam crigler
Of course.
tim pool
Depending on where they were on the planet.
adam crigler
Yeah, different fruits grew in different seasons.
tim pool
And so, depending on where you are on the planet, in tropical areas you have the rainy season and the dry season.
If you move for more temperate climates, you have the four seasons.
adam crigler
And the moon schedules.
tim pool
Exactly.
adam crigler
able to hunt at night.
That's why it was stars.
It wasn't weeks before.
It was fortnights because those were between the moon schedules.
And that was that was important.
And that was you guessed it.
Time management.
tim pool
When you woke up when the sun came up.
That is adhering to a schedule.
Yep.
That because we've quantified units of time, that's white culture?
adam crigler
Saying time is a commodity?
Your life is based on time.
That is not an argument.
tim pool
This stuff, everyone's.
It's really triggering to me.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, we went over it yesterday.
For sure.
So you can actually go check out the video.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
adam crigler
We're kind of getting sidetracked here.
tim pool
Well, no, that was the gist of it.
Like, we're seeing all this weird critical intersectionalist theory infecting everything.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And I wonder if it leads to this point where they're, like, experimenting on kids.
That's the gist of it.
adam crigler
They actually are.
You're absolutely right.
Which, I mean, how are people not freaking out about this?
tim pool
How is this not the biggest story in the country right now?
adam crigler
Right.
unidentified
That's crazy.
adam crigler
And not only that, it's like... Because Trump.
Well, what else is going on right now?
So who just got who big big profile person just got arrested a specific girlfriend of another person who got arrested Killed themselves in jail.
It's like what are they trying to hide?
Why why are people scrubbing their Instagram accounts their Twitter accounts?
Why are why is all this happening?
Oh, yeah Hmm, maybe they're trying to hide stuff because they're messing with kids.
And well, guess what?
Most people can't stand it when you mess with kids.
I'm talking about myself, especially.
You mess with kids, you're messing with the wrong, like, you messed up.
tim pool
Everybody agrees.
adam crigler
Everybody.
Everyone I know, anyway.
tim pool
That's why everybody wants to see justice in these particular cases.
adam crigler
And that's another reason why I like Trump.
He's pushing it.
He's pushing against these people.
Look into it, if you don't believe me.
tim pool
Yeah.
Mainstream reporting.
adam crigler
Oh yeah.
All of them.
tim pool
We're going to talk about China.
We're going to talk about China.
adam crigler
Man, I get mad about that.
tim pool
If we had better sources, we could get into the Trump and the trafficking stuff.
I have to do this because I want to make sure we get to this.
adam crigler
This is important to know, too.
This is another thing that people... I mean, I didn't know about this, so I'm glad we're talking about it.
tim pool
Right now in China, there's concentration camps.
They are taking a group of people called the Uyghur Muslims.
They are harvesting their organs and selling them.
They're harvesting their hair.
These people are being forcefully re-educated.
adam crigler
And selling it to Americans.
tim pool
They were trying to.
They were trying to.
adam crigler
Trying to, yeah.
tim pool
Big shipments of fake hair.
What are that?
Weaves?
adam crigler
No, real hair.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
I mean like... Yeah, weaves.
You think you're buying fake hair.
You think you're buying... But it's actually these people who are being kidnapped and put in concentration camps right now by China.
They're shaving their heads and selling their hair to other countries.
adam crigler
That's correct.
tim pool
They're harvesting their organs.
They are forcefully sterilizing these people.
Check out this story from the AP.
China cuts Uyghur births with IUD's abortion and sterilization.
This is just absolutely insane.
adam crigler
It's crazy.
tim pool
The Chinese government is taking draconian measures to slash birth rates among Uyghurs and other minorities as part of a sweeping campaign to curb its Muslim population, even as it encourages some of the country's Han majority to have more children.
So we can come back to this.
But I gotta give a shoutout to Madjed Nawaz.
Follow him on Twitter.
It's M-A-A-J-I-D N-A-W-A-Z He's engaging in a hunger strike.
I believe he's on day three now.
He said, please do not ignore a Muslim genocide for the second time in my life.
I am already out of anger and no longer feel pain.
I am asking for some love."
And then he posts these petitions.
Majid is a very high-profile radio host for LBC.
I don't know what LBC stands for.
What is it?
London Broadcast Company?
I don't know what LBC stands for.
What is it?
lydia smith
London Broadcast Company or something?
tim pool
Something like that.
Probably something like that.
And I gotta say, I think what Magic is doing is one of the bravest things in order to spread
the word.
Explain to people what's going on, sign petitions, rally people to start talking about what China
is doing more.
And all this amid the backdrop of just everything bad that China's been doing to the United States, that Trump himself has been calling out.
And now Majid is an intellectual dark web type personality.
I say type because I don't know if there's a formal group, but Majid definitely is.
My understanding is that he actually coined the phrase regressive left.
Referring to like social justice warriors and stuff.
And now he's basically come out saying, we cannot ignore what's happening right now.
And you know what?
It's gotta be said.
It's gotta be said.
How many activists on the left have said, you know, if you've ever wondered what you'd do during World War II, you're doing it now, because of DRUMPF.
adam crigler
No, it's because you're ignoring the horrible atrocities that are happening right now in China.
tim pool
We have video.
So, I don't know how, is there anything, there's nothing like graphic or anything in this, is there?
adam crigler
No, no, no, no, you can show it.
It's an aerial drone footage from someone, what they call an unknown hero in China, which I 100% agree, because people need to see this, because this exact footage is showing something hauntingly familiar from World War II, and just, I mean, you could just play it, like, look at them, they're all just sitting there.
In lines, being rounded up, corralled, and put on trains.
On to trains.
Man, this is heavy, dude.
Seeing this stuff.
It's like, this is going on right now.
tim pool
People are living it.
adam crigler
We are living it right now.
And if you don't know about it, you better know about it now.
Because this is happening.
They're harvesting these people's organs.
They're trying to sell their hair to Americans.
tim pool
Lookit, they're all shaved.
Their heads have all been shaved.
adam crigler
That's right, they are.
This is scary, man.
This is horrendous.
tim pool
And this is a nation of, what, 1.4?
1.4 billion people?
Yeah, I believe so.
This is one of the scariest things we face as a planet right now.
adam crigler
Honestly, I am upset.
It's hard to see this and know that this is going on and that nobody here, it's just this, oh, well, coronavirus.
No, no, no, no, no.
There's genocide right now that's happening.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
This is crazy footage, man.
adam crigler
And you're behind them and wearing their hair.
tim pool
We are lucky that whoever was able to pull this off.
It looks like they're actually filming the screen of their drone controller.
I wonder how the Chinese didn't catch this.
You'd think they would have locked this down hard.
adam crigler
Well, because they probably sent it off hoping someone was going to get it and be like, please, I hope someone finds this.
You know, what else can they do?
tim pool
It could be an intelligence agent that actually leaked the footage too.
Like something of, you know, of better means.
Cause, see this zoom capability?
adam crigler
Yeah.
lydia smith
That's uh, that's high.
tim pool
I mean, it may just, that's not digital zoom.
That looks like optical zoom to me.
So I wonder what kind of drone they're using.
Maybe people in the comments might know.
But, it's right there, man.
All those historical photos we've seen of people being loaded onto trains.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I remember watching, uh, they did some commercials.
Where it was like, do you remember this?
There was like commercials of like a, it was like a suburban white family sitting in their living room, like watching TV, and then all of a sudden, like, full camo people like kick the doors in, run in and then grab them and they're screaming like, on the ground now!
And then it loads them into a truck and then all of a sudden it freezes frame and then turns black and white and turns into a photo from World War II Germany.
And they were like, what would you do?
It's something like that.
It's happening right now.
I gotta be completely honest, I don't even know where to begin.
So that's why I gave a shout out to Majid Nawaz.
He's doing a hunger strike.
And will that be enough?
I don't want to be pessimistic.
But I don't know.
I mean, it's certainly got us talking about it.
Which is really important.
adam crigler
I mean, I'm looking at the comments.
Not a lot of people know about this.
tim pool
A lot of people are like, what?
Are you kidding me?
When Trump says China, we're not playing games.
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
It's crazy because you can go back to like 2010, and Trump's talking about China.
adam crigler
You're right, he is.
tim pool
And then, you know what the... So, there was... What was it?
Michael Flynn was talking to... 2000, he was talking about it.
Oh yeah, he's been talking about it.
They've been extracting our manufactured... What did you say?
adam crigler
80% of our manufactured... As it stands right now, 80% of US imports Imports.
All imports come from China.
80%.
tim pool
I was reading something about why Michael Flynn was targeted in the Mueller investigation, and apparently it was because he said that he didn't think Russia was our biggest threat, that China was.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
And then they were like, oh no, he's trying to protect Russia.
It's like, maybe.
adam crigler
Maybe he was right, and China is the biggest threat.
tim pool
But it's not just about what's going on with the Uighur Muslims, man.
It's Hong Kong.
adam crigler
Yeah, you're right.
tim pool
Man, Hong Kong is essentially, my understanding, and look, I'm not from there, but is that it's basically English common law, or it's been for a long time.
They've enjoyed free speech, free expression.
adam crigler
Democracy.
tim pool
Yeah, democratic institutions.
I don't know exactly.
I think they had a parliamentary system, I'm not entirely sure.
But then when the UK basically Said they're no longer going to be a colony.
They said, you know, there you go, China.
She's all yours.
And what does China do?
They said, oh, it's going to be fine.
We're going to keep Hong Kong the way it is.
Nope.
They have basically given themselves the power to rendition Hong Kong citizens completely just in secret, literal black bags dragged off.
And so this brings us to Donald Trump's executive order, which we did talk about yesterday.
And now we'll talk about in the context of all of this, I'm actually surprised there's not a harder and more serious executive order on the Uyghur concentration camps.
adam crigler
Same here.
It's an atrocity to humans.
tim pool
It's one of the worst atrocities probably in the history, in modern history.
adam crigler
Hands down.
No doubt about it.
tim pool
And the scale is what's scary because, you know, can you Google search, like, how many people lived in Germany, you know, a hundred years ago?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Because we're talking about 1.4 billion people.
adam crigler
In China, but the amount of people in these camps, I'm not sure.
tim pool
Is it a million?
adam crigler
I think that's what I was thinking.
It was about a million.
I don't know.
I don't have the exact number.
tim pool
I'm just saying, like, now that there's more people on the planet and populations have expanded, we're dealing with a massive scale of widespread human suffering.
And that's, I mean, forced sterilizations of people.
So I was reading about why they're harvesting organs, and apparently what it is, Other wealthy Muslims can't have organ transplants unless it's halal.
So China's basically like, hey, it's like the movie The Island.
adam crigler
We'll start a farm of halal humans for them.
That's straight up what they're doing.
That's what it is.
It's a human farm.
Can't stand it.
lydia smith
No, I'm sorry.
I'm looking at the wrong chart.
tim pool
Have you guys ever seen the movie The Island?
adam crigler
I have, yeah.
tim pool
We just watched it recently, actually.
It's a bunch of clones who don't realize that they're just going to have their organs harvested for wealthy people who got themselves cloned.
And now I wonder, you know, how is China trading these people?
As commodities?
As products to be sold?
What do we do?
adam crigler
That's what they are.
tim pool
You know, I was talking to someone about this and their response to me was like, okay, what should we do?
Ground war in China?
And I'm like, man, I don't know.
Sanctions, I guess?
Well, we're doing that.
Yeah, that's a good point.
adam crigler
That was the beginning.
tim pool
So, right.
And that's why I think war with China is inevitable.
adam crigler
I agree.
I think, I was talking to a friend of mine today, I was like, I've never been more sure of us going to war with China than today.
Listening to Bill Barr talk about China, calling them out, calling Apple out, calling Hollywood out, calling all these specific... That was today, right?
That was today.
tim pool
Man, Bill Barr went ham!
adam crigler
And if you didn't listen to his interview, or it was a speech that he was giving at Gerald F. Ford something, you must.
It is an absolute must to be aware of what they're doing and what they're talking about.
I had to listen to it twice because I couldn't believe it.
tim pool
I have it right here.
Pull it up.
It's a long speech.
It's quite long.
adam crigler
I have it right here. Pull it up. He was bait. It's a long speech. I it's it's quite long. I have the words written
here I'm just uh
tim pool
He was basically talking about Hollywood injecting propaganda
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
He was talking about, you know, the NBA, these big tech companies gladly just being pawns for the Communist Party of China.
adam crigler
Yep.
Basically having this double standard of, well, America, you know, we don't really care about you.
We have to cater to China because they have way more people and we make way more money on their citizens.
And he calls them out for it.
It's just like...
Oh, you don't care about freedom of speech.
You don't care about civil rights.
Real crazy civil rights being violated.
tim pool
What did Jack Dorsey say to me last year on Rogan about their rules?
What'd he say?
They're trying to apply a global standard.
Right.
That's what it was, right?
lydia smith
I believe so, yeah.
tim pool
Something like that.
It's like, oh, well, you know, we're a global company.
adam crigler
And he talks about that in here.
tim pool
No, you're not a global company.
adam crigler
Nope.
tim pool
How many countries in the world have human rights protected by their constitution?
Very, very few, and certainly not China.
adam crigler
Definitely not.
tim pool
Look at how desperate these companies are to function in China.
Google wanted to do some kind of censored search that could exist in the country, and their response was, well, if we don't do it, someone else will, so we might as well.
No, it doesn't work that way.
China doesn't just end by saying, like, okay, you can exist here.
What did Bill Barr say about the iPhone?
Do you remember that part?
adam crigler
He said they, well, specifically he was talking about the guy that attacked the courthouse in California, and he had two phones on him, and he went to shoot the phones, and they took them out before he was able to shoot them completely, and they were trying to get into the phones.
And they were like, they got a warrant.
They actually went and got a warrant and went to Apple said, here's our warrant.
Let us into this phone.
And they were like, nope, sorry, we can't help you.
Like that's against our policies.
Like we won't do it.
And they were able to get into the phone and that found out that they were, there was connections to Al Qaeda.
unidentified
Wow.
adam crigler
And it's like, wow, did I just, did I just hear that?
Like, is that actually happening?
So I actually found this, uh, well, so I'm just going to read this one part.
Go ahead.
What were you want to finish that point?
tim pool
Yeah, the point was, he said you couldn't sell an iPhone in China unless China had backdoor access.
adam crigler
That's exactly it.
Yeah, he did say that.
tim pool
Right.
So the point was, we can't get in these phones, but you think China would allow them to sell in their country unless they had backdoor access?
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
So when the United States government says, if you're going to run encrypted software messaging, we need a way in.
It doesn't work that way.
You create a way in, everybody's got a way in.
He's basically pointing out that because of the rules, the rights, the Constitution that we have, the Fourth Amendment, Apple will say F you.
But do you think when it comes to China?
Nope.
I'm sure the CCP is given a golden ticket.
adam crigler
Listen to this.
The People's Republic of China is now engaged in an economic blitzkrieg, an aggressive, orchestrated, whole-of-government campaign to seize commanding heights of the global economy and to surpass the United States as the world's preeminent superpower, period.
Man, when he said that, I was just like, bro, dang, man, he's calling him out.
And that is what I'm seeing.
tim pool
I got a deep dive for you on your Saturday show.
adam crigler
What's up?
tim pool
Thucydides Trap.
adam crigler
OK, yeah, maybe.
I'm going to dive into Trump this Saturday.
And it's good.
I mean, people need to know about the type of person he is, the things that he's actually done.
And I'm going to talk about it.
tim pool
This is crazy because, you know, in 2015, going into 2016, the conversation was, will we be at war with Russia?
Right.
And, you know, over the Syria and the Qatar-Turkey pipeline, Hillary Clinton wanted a no-fly zone over Syria.
One of the top-ranking generals said that would be a declaration of war on Russia.
She said, I didn't care.
Something like that.
And so that was a big concern for a lot of people.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
But now we have the prospect of war with China, and it seems like it's closer than ever.
In fact, it could happen at any moment.
China's vowed retaliation over this executive order Trump has imposed, where Trump has basically said in his executive order, we could take your stuff if anybody, American or otherwise, if you were directly or indirectly aiding in China's repression of Hong Kong.
I mean, that's broad.
That basically means we can snap our fingers and take your stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah, who knows?
I mean, it is vague.
You're right.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
And it's worrying, too, because when it comes to conflict, international war and stuff, where do you draw the line on freedom versus security?
You know, we used to have a U.S.
Office of Censorship.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Yeah.
So one of the shirts that I sell, it says, Silence Accelerates Victory.
adam crigler
Yeah, I have.
unidentified
Yep.
adam crigler
I'm looking at it.
tim pool
Right, yeah, so it's in, what is it, can you, you want to read it?
adam crigler
Teespring?
tim pool
Yeah, you want to just read the Latin off, can you read it?
adam crigler
Pop it up.
Is it The Death of Censorship?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And the image I made is the, you know, pyramid, all-seeing eye being knocked over.
adam crigler
Yeah, sideways.
tim pool
And then it says, like, Solentum.
adam crigler
Solentum Victorium Accelerant.
tim pool
Accelerat.
adam crigler
Accelerat.
tim pool
Accelerati.
That was the slogan of the U.S.
Office of Censorship.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
So when it came to war, we had no free speech.
You know, when it came to the Civil War, I could be wrong about this, but I vaguely remember reading that Abraham Lincoln suspended habeas corpus and suspended a lot of constitutional rights.
adam crigler
Scary.
tim pool
When you're facing an existential threat, would you tolerate it?
And that's a very hard question to answer because then do you just trust the government when they say you're under threat?
adam crigler
Or that they'll relinquish it, if you even do give up to that.
tim pool
I mean, the Office of Censorship went away a long time ago, and free speech has been emboldened throughout the past few decades, and now it's kind of being curtailed.
adam crigler
Kind of.
tim pool
Yeah, it's being crushed completely.
adam crigler
There's a straight-up war against freedom of speech right now.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
Yeah, it's being shut down completely, to be honest.
So, if it came out that we had infiltrators, which, I mean, we know we do.
The Feds have arrested several people who were in the take from China.
adam crigler
Yeah, professors in Ivy League schools.
tim pool
What would happen if Trump came out and said, these political operatives in high-profile positions have been taking salaries from China?
Here's the proof.
Do we just say, lock them up?
Do we just trust the federal government to arrest You know, potential political rivals?
Mike Pompeo said China has infiltrated this country at every level.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And this was in, I think, February?
adam crigler
I believe it.
tim pool
Yeah, every level.
And then we're seeing these arrests, so these investigations are underway.
What happens if they start, you know, what happens if on November 1st, indictments drop, a bunch of Democrats get arrested, connections to China, Chinese collusion?
I mean...
adam crigler
I don't know, because a lot of people are blinded by what we talked about the news earlier.
It's like the news is sprouting all these, I can't believe she said this one thing, and it's like that's not what she said, that's not what she meant.
You're just taking everything out of context and blasting it out, and you have control of most of the airwaves that people listen to.
tim pool
We've talked about the one thing that would prevent a civil war and a unified enemy.
adam crigler
A world war.
tim pool
What if it's the inverse?
What if the one thing that could actually trigger the civil war is China?
adam crigler
That's what they're doing.
That is their war.
tim pool
No, no, what I mean is when we find out who is actually working for them, I'm just reminded of what I just read about what Barr said about them.
The Communist Party, the Communist Party specifically, right?
We're literally speaking in defense of the citizens who are being repressed by the Chinese Communist Party.
adam crigler
And I'm just reminded of what I just read about what Barr said about them.
Are they're doing a full on economic blitzkrieg of art?
And they're taking over all facets of our government, a whole government like that's what he says.
That's when he said that I had to pause it.
And I was just like, dang.
tim pool
So what have said that?
So what happens if Biden wins?
adam crigler
He I don't know, man.
I think our country's gone.
Yeah, that's what I believe.
I feel like that's what they want.
tim pool
Doesn't it seem so crazy to think that, though?
adam crigler
Yes, absolutely.
tim pool
It does.
adam crigler
To think that he's listening to him speak.
He walked up to his speech the other day.
He walked up and was out of breath for the first, like, two, three minutes.
Like, he took a while to just catch his breath.
It's like he walked to the stage and he was out of breath.
tim pool
Well, it's not even about that.
It's about the TPP, the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
adam crigler
Well, yeah.
tim pool
And the Obama administration.
adam crigler
And doesn't his son have a bunch of holdings in a bunch of Chinese companies?
tim pool
I don't know the full details.
That's what I heard.
Outside of all of this stuff, let's talk about the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
Which was basically a free trade agreement for China and a bunch of other countries.
And the argument was that by having more of our financial interests in their country, it would lower the likelihood of war and stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah, but it would increase our dependence on them.
tim pool
And the Obama administration was in favor of this.
They were two prominent people in the 2016 election who opposed it.
It was Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump.
And one of the first things Trump did after he got elected was he crushed it.
Done.
Gone.
adam crigler
Awesome.
It's one of the best things he's ever done for this country.
tim pool
So I don't know the full details, but you know what's really shocking to me?
Do you know who the principal faction was that opposed the TPP?
It was the left.
It was leftist activists.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
During, like, Occupy Wall Street, during, you know, all of this populist left uprising stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah, I vaguely remember.
I mean, I wasn't political back then.
tim pool
They were all saying the TPP is crazy.
It must be stopped.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And now where are they?
Orange man bad.
adam crigler
That's it.
That's the only argument that they really have.
tim pool
Well, they just they become indoctrinated into blind hatred of Trump.
adam crigler
Yep.
Blind.
tim pool
To me, Trump is just another president.
You know, for better or for worse, for good or for bad, I'm like, I don't know, yeah.
I remember when Obama got elected, there were a lot of bad things he did, and I, I talked,
you know, smack-talked him for it.
And I remember when Bush was in, was president, there was a lot of, a lot of bad things he did,
and they were both really bad.
And now here I am with Trump.
He's actually no new horse, right?
unidentified
No new horse.
tim pool
So he's actually better.
adam crigler
He's trying to bring the troops home.
tim pool
But, but outside of all this, it's like, my view of Trump is kind of like, I don't know,
sure, whatever, right?
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Now, as we enter this conflict with this escalating Cold War, people are calling it with China.
I'm like, man, Joe Biden is a death sentence.
adam crigler
Absolutely.
tim pool
Joe Biden is voting for the suicide of this nation.
adam crigler
Absolutely.
I 100% agree.
tim pool
These people don't get it.
A lot of these people in the suburbs, they don't get it, man.
They don't understand, like, They're just so accustomed to everything being there, to walking into a store and seeing, once again, there's my fruit and yogurt parfait, exactly as I've always wanted it.
We have been lulled into this luxury of American living.
And we're just so used to everything being perfect, we don't realize what's really at stake.
And it's a shame, because you don't know what you've got until it's gone.
Having been to a lot of these countries, that's where a lot of my perspective comes from.
First of all, growing up not particularly of means, to put it lightly.
I know what life is like when you microwave a can of beans and schlop some American cheese on it because that's all you got.
Or when you boil some spaghetti noodles with some ketchup because that's all you got.
Or ramen, crunching on some ramen when you're broke.
I've been to some of these countries.
I know how great this country is.
There are a lot of people who, what do they think Biden's going to offer them?
You know, I'm seeing all these polls.
The new Cook Political Electoral College has, has, you know, right now, if the election were to happen, Biden wins.
And not only that, but they're projecting based on fundraising that Democrats are clear to take the House, potentially the Senate.
Republicans are getting scared, they say.
I almost can't believe it.
adam crigler
I'm like... I don't believe it.
tim pool
Are people really paying... you know, they're not paying attention.
They're seeing the fake news.
adam crigler
Ah, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
No, no, no.
I disagree.
I've specifically talked to certain people who have been called, who have had these pollsters call them and talk to them.
tim pool
And they lie.
adam crigler
And they straight up go, I am afraid to let anybody, anybody, let alone this random person trying to poll me on the phone, who I'm voting for, I told him Biden.
Every single person that has that I've talked to that has been polled.
That's what they say.
tim pool
You know what I would say?
adam crigler
Every single one.
What would you say?
tim pool
Vermin Supreme.
adam crigler
Vermin Supreme?
tim pool
Yeah.
Do you guys know Vermin?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
He's like he's I think he was literally running like a legit run.
adam crigler
Boot helmet.
tim pool
Yeah, he wears a boot on his head and he has like a he's a very very smart guy.
He's very funny.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
He's a prominent activist.
That's what I would say.
But there was a Fox News segment going viral where they're all saying that they lie to the pollsters.
That they just say whatever, they don't care.
And I thought about it for a second and I thought to myself, maybe this is really it.
Not so much that people are scared, but it's also a kind of troll culture.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
Of getting the call and just laughing to yourself.
adam crigler
Yeah, I'm voting for Biden.
Sure.
tim pool
So who did I vote for?
Murphy.
Yep, gonna vote for Biden.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And then you laugh when you hang up, like, I don't care who these people are.
They don't deserve my time and energy.
I really do think the easiest way to explain it, though, is when you see cancel culture, Cook Political, these are the people who do the ratings for like, you know, this district is Democrat 13 or Republican 8.
They said if Trump leaned in on the cancel culture message, it would work because regular people are scared.
They're scared of being canceled.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
That makes sense to me.
Yep, me too.
I think regular people know that you say one wrong thing and your life can literally come to an end.
adam crigler
I mean, that's what they've been doing.
They're winning that war.
They're trying to convince people to not speak.
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
And that's exactly what they're going for.
tim pool
Exactly.
So with that being said, you hear these stories over and over again.
Cook Political is telling us people are scared of this.
Okay, so what happens when one of these journalists calls you Right.
Hi, is this Mr. Criggler?
I'm John Smith of the New York Times and want to know who you're voting for.
Tell me who you're voting for.
adam crigler
I would tell them the like button.
unidentified
That's right.
adam crigler
It's the only thing I'm voting for and you should too.
tim pool
When I get into that voting booth I'm gonna smash the like button.
No, but we did mention this the other day.
I think that may be the best, like, I think that makes the most sense.
adam crigler
I know it is because I've actually spoken to these people that have gotten these calls.
tim pool
But like, Trump talks about the fake news all the time.
And how they lie and lie and lie and lie.
What person would volunteer up to a journalist, I'm your enemy, destroy my life?
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
They wouldn't do it.
adam crigler
Why?
Why would anyone be honest with that?
tim pool
But hey man, hey man, I think you gotta be careful about wishful thinking too.
There's a lot of reason to believe that may be the case because it happened in 2016.
adam crigler
I'm not wishful thinking.
I'm out there talking to every single person I know.
Every day.
I'm trying to converse with them.
I'm pretty sure that I've converted some people to understand the truth of what's going on.
tim pool
I'm just saying, there are a lot of people who are sitting back, like, I was talking to some local guy last week, and he's like, nah, Trump's gonna win, I don't care.
And I'm like, have you been following the news?
Do you know what's going on?
No, I don't know, Trump's gonna win, of course he'll win.
It's like, I hope you show up to the polls, man.
Because if you have this attitude where you think you won, it's exactly what cost Hillary the election.
Everybody was like, she can't possibly lose, who cares?
So there's a lot of factors to consider.
What if all the people who sat out 2016 because they didn't think Hillary could lose are now terrified and will come out?
How many people has Trump converted?
Is he gaining support?
Is he losing support?
Man, if you follow some people like Mike Cernovich, he's been tweeting that Trump's expecting a defeat because the RNC and Trump have been sending out these scammy emails that are like desperately begging for money in really creepy ways that sounds like they're trying to cash in as much as they can because they're going to lose 2020 and want to try again in 2022 or 2024.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
I don't have the answers.
You know what I do know though?
unidentified
What?
tim pool
I do know that if Joe Biden is president, there is a very high likelihood of bad things
happening in this country to the people who live here.
Donald Trump, his mission has been to boost the economy and to help Americans.
And one of the funniest things was that a lot of the things the left demands, the four-day work week, you know, work from home, extended benefits, parental leave, these things were actually being accomplished because the economy was doing so well.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
That there was like, I think it was Potbelly Sandwiches announced a four-day work week plus like parental leave or something, something crazy.
And I'm like, wow!
The progressives have been demanding that by mandate, Trump accomplished it through trade.
adam crigler
Yeah, he's doing good things.
tim pool
So I think, you know, it's absurd to think Trump does not have the best interest of this country.
I think he loves America too much.
And I actually lean more towards probably international cooperation to a certain degree.
But to think that Donald Trump wants this country to be heard is ridiculous.
But they try to make that the narrative.
And we can see exactly how they do that with this McKennedy story we did.
So for those that are just, you know, tuning in or whatever, Kayleigh McEnany, they took a quote from her so out of context and every single news outlet runs with it to make them look crazy.
I know this.
Joe Biden is a crony who's been accused of being corrupt over and over and over again.
And hey, you know what?
So is Trump.
But the very least, Trump has been calling out China.
Trump is trying to pull our troops out of Afghanistan.
That's...
That's all I can say.
You got crony Biden with his crony family.
Everyone in his family has been corrupt.
All the news outlets have reported on it over and over and over again.
And the dude can't stay awake.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Why would anyone vote for this guy?
Now, I guess when it comes to the House and the Senate, you're dealing with state and district-level elections.
So when you've got a congressperson, you can actually show up and talk to him.
That might be a huge advantage for them that Republicans, you know, don't have.
But to see Biden win would shock me.
It'd be very shocking.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But, you know, I don't want to be...
Every four years, you know, South Park made fun of this when it was, I think, 2008 when Obama won.
They did an episode where everyone's like hiding in a cave because they think the world's about to end because he became president.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't want to be that crazy, but I do think we're getting dangerously close to war with China.
Now, it's possible if Biden gets elected and he starts, you know, if the first thing Biden does is, you know, he drops to his knees in front of Xi Jinping and then bows to the floor, there's not going to be a war.
You know, right. If he sells the American people's manufacturing base back to China, there won't be a war.
Right.
Some people think that's a good thing. That's the point.
Hey, we'll avoid Thucydides trap. There won't be a war.
And then we won't have any jobs. And then yeah, the American people will, you know, lose their power, their
wealth, their status, their stature.
And China will expand and grow and Chinese influence will take over and there'll be more concentration camps. Yeah,
the more oppression.
adam crigler
The difference between the top 1.1%, whatever the point is now, because there's such a huge disparity between the rich, And everybody else.
That's just going to keep expanding.
It's going to keep getting wider and wider and wider.
We're not even going to be able to see them up there.
tim pool
The people who own the factories, they don't care.
adam crigler
They don't care about the American public.
They're looking at their bottom dollar and they get the most profit when the manufacturing is over in China.
tim pool
And they stay rich and the poor get poorer.
adam crigler
Exactly.
By American.
tim pool
At least there won't be war, I guess.
adam crigler
Buy American.
tim pool
I guess we'll see.
Maybe that's what the vote is for.
There's a lot of things wrong with Biden.
There's a lot of things you can criticize Biden for, for sure.
There's a lot of things you can criticize Trump for.
Trump's been accused of being corrupt for a lot of reasons.
So is Joe Biden.
I'm going to back away from all these partisan arguments because everybody's going to have
their one thing where they're going to point to Trump, point to Biden.
I'll tell you this.
adam crigler
Good point.
tim pool
Joe Biden is likely going to be enacting things like the TPP, which will allow all of our companies to move, all the jobs to move.
The job you have will be relocated.
adam crigler
All the tariffs that Trump put into place would probably be gone so that all the companies could go back to the cheap places.
tim pool
The economy in the U.S.
will take a major hit.
adam crigler
Absolutely.
tim pool
Absolute major hit.
Because one of the things that's bolstered the American economy has been the return of manufa- partial return of manufacturing.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, it's not not complete, but a lot of these jobs are coming back.
And that's been good for the country.
adam crigler
Well, unemployment was at an almost an all-time low.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
If not, at an all-time low.
tim pool
Jim Kramer of CNBC, the greatest numbers of our lives.
adam crigler
Boom.
Period.
tim pool
Before COVID.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
So, what is it now?
The economy's crashed because of COVID?
That way, when Joe Biden sells our manufacturing base back to China, we'll slightly improve now that COVID's over, and you won't know the difference?
Is that it?
adam crigler
Crazy man.
tim pool
But it doesn't matter.
Biden's just the guy they're putting in place.
This is exactly what China wants.
Who's he gonna pick?
We're gonna blame him for it.
adam crigler
With COVID.
But it doesn't matter.
Biden's just the guy they're putting in place.
This is exactly what China wants.
tim pool
Who's he gonna pick, Michelle Obama?
I think you'd win.
adam crigler
With Michelle?
tim pool
Yeah.
Nostalgia vote.
A lot of people are going to see the celebrity, they're going to see the sparkle, and they're going to be like... I don't know.
Yay!
I don't know.
adam crigler
Trump is... The Trump base is really solid.
tim pool
He's strong, man.
His Trump base is strong.
But he's got to convince, right now, around 9% of the middle that he's the right choice.
And his message is being muddled up, particularly by the media.
adam crigler
Well, I'm doing what I can.
I don't, I don't, I don't, you know man, I don't... I'm just a small, you know, little lick of water in the ocean of America, you know?
tim pool
The only thing I can say about Trump that right now for me is like, I probably would vote for him, you know, as it stands today as Afghanistan.
His continued efforts to try and reduce our troops, you know, our forces in the Middle East just makes the most sense to me out of everything I've learned, every place I've traveled to.
And there's literally nothing anyone on the left is going to say to me.
They're going to say Trump's a racist, but he's bringing our troops out of Afghanistan.
Yeah, but he's a racist.
Well, you know, Afghanistan.
Well, what about health care?
You know, we're killing people in these Middle Eastern countries and we need to leave them?
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Look, I'm sorry, man.
I understand you want to talk about people losing their health insurance and stuff.
I think these things are all broken and I will definitely, you know, advocate for helping people get better and more affordable health care.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Right now, there's one thing that I can see happening.
The COVID, I can't control.
Trump can't control that either.
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
But he can bring our troops back from the Middle East.
And he's trying.
adam crigler
And he's trying.
And the Democrats are shutting that down.
tim pool
Well, it's both.
It's both.
adam crigler
The swamp is a monkey place.
tim pool
There's actually more Republicans than Democrats trying to help Trump, but it's like eight Republicans sided with Trump and three Democrats did in terms of getting our troops back.
Matt Gaetz and Tulsi Gabbard, shout out.
Much respect.
Because they were like, let Trump do it?
Why?
adam crigler
Why not?
Why are we fighting this?
tim pool
So if Joe, I don't trust Joe Biden at all.
He's part of the Obama administration.
They bolstered our troops.
I am the perfect example of the disaffected liberal who for the longest time heard these stories about how if corporations ran amok, we would reign them in to make sure they don't damage our country.
And now that the commons have been seized by big tech, the left is saying, but my private platform.
Now that Trump is the one saying, bring our troops home, the left is saying, well, you know, war.
adam crigler
Well, why do you think they pushed back Ghislaine's trial to 2021?
Just in case they actually win and then they can make it all go away.
tim pool
Maybe.
adam crigler
I hope people can forget about it.
tim pool
Bill Barr is in charge.
Can't he do something about it?
Unless Bill Barr is like, we're not giving up, we're going to win this one.
adam crigler
I mean, who knows?
He clearly thinks China is the biggest threat.
tim pool
He's not wrong.
adam crigler
That is pretty much what he was saying.
No, no, no.
He literally said that.
tim pool
You know what it feels like?
It feels like we're in the last season of the show, and so the writing is getting sloppy and kind of all over the place.
Like the first season of Westworld was amazing, the second season got weird, now the third season just makes literally no sense.
It feels like that's what happens.
Season 2020 and we're just like, the writers are getting lazy.
It's literally the Fonz jumping over the shark tank on the motorcycle.
adam crigler
Yeah, they're complaining that they're being released.
An hour and a half later, it's like, what are you complaining about?
tim pool
What exactly are you saying?
I just mean like, we got Ghislaine, or however you pronounce her name, you got China, you've got social justice infecting the federal government, you've got Trump and Biden.
It really does feel like we're just, the writers of the show are just like, I don't know, the president is Trump?
And they're like, okay, that'll make things interesting.
Have you seen the South Park episode where it turns out Earth is a reality TV show?
adam crigler
No.
I haven't watched a lot of South Park, to be honest.
tim pool
Maybe that's it.
All right, well, let's jump over to the Super Chats, finally, because we went a little longer than we should have, but we're having a conversation.
adam crigler
So the first thing you got to do... Yeah, we had to talk about this stuff.
This is all serious.
This is a serious episode.
I mean, that's all of our episodes now.
tim pool
But we laugh a lot, make fun of people sometimes.
adam crigler
I try as much as possible, but sometimes we got to do this stuff that people need to talk about.
And I can't stress that enough.
Talk.
Be open.
Don't be afraid to lose some friends.
I've lost some friends and honestly, I don't care because they are just completely blind.
They want to be mad at me.
I don't care.
You know what?
Someone came back to me today and said, you know what?
I unfriended you.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry I unfriended you.
unidentified
Wow.
adam crigler
My friend, I was talking to one of my best friends over here.
He's also a Trump supporter and we were talking about it and you know what his friend said?
Oh man, go, go look at this podcast.
And he gave him our video.
Of us talking about Uncle Tom, the documentary.
He's like, watch this and then go watch the documentary.
So my friend hit me up today.
He's like, you know, I owe you an apology.
tim pool
Wow, man.
adam crigler
Sorry.
unidentified
Wow.
adam crigler
So like, don't be afraid.
We must have conversations.
Critical thinking is the reason humans made it this far.
tim pool
Listen, bro, bro.
Do we look like conservatives?
adam crigler
No.
Like, do I look like a conservative?
tim pool
You're a hippie.
adam crigler
You look more conservative than I am, and I think I'm way more conservative than you.
tim pool
Yeah, definitely.
adam crigler
I absolutely am.
tim pool
You've been reading all this stuff, and you're like, I agree with these things, and I'm like, what?
I'm still a little milquetoast fence-sitter, huh?
adam crigler
Well, you're doing your job.
tim pool
But what I mean is, like, dude, we're the traditional liberal of the city who have been now entrenched in politics.
And here's how we view things.
You know, if you go back seven years or whatever, my politics are, like, very much so basic Democrat.
But now everything's gone so insane and the threats have become so real.
Here we are having these conversations.
I was talking to somebody who said that Like, we're clearly liberals who are talking about these important issues, and that's the weirdest thing about it.
adam crigler
It's like, conservatives are suit-wearing, you know, their hair's slicked back, but I'm like, well, the thing about the economic policy is... There's many people that are going, one of these days, we're going to tune into Timcast IRL and Adam's going to have short hair and a suit on.
unidentified
That'd be so fun.
tim pool
No, it's not true.
adam crigler
Not going to happen.
tim pool
Because you're a gaming skateboarder musician who eats vegan wings.
It's true.
And what's happening is that There is a real weird shift happening in this country, where liberals and conservatives have come together, and what the left is, is not the liberals anymore.
adam crigler
Correct, absolutely.
tim pool
We gotta read these Super Chats though, but I wanna say this too, before we read this, make sure to hit the like button, seriously subscribe if you haven't, because it just, you know, let YouTube know that you really like the channel when you comment and everything like that.
And I want to say, please follow at Majid Nawaz.
So I'll show you his Twitter account one more time.
It's M-A-A...
Let me actually go to his full account right here.
Yeah, let's pull it over. There we go.
M-A-A-J-I-D-N-A-W-A-Z I just started following him.
He's a very prominent commentator.
He is intellectual dark web type personality.
You can see they mentioned Steven Pinker, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and LBC, if you might imagine.
He's a very, very smart fellow.
Coined the term regressive left, calls out the social justice nonsense, but he's a relatively liberal dude.
My understanding is he's engaging in a hunger strike.
He's doing much more than I am.
He's got a high-profile platform, he's calling this out, he's on a radio show, so he's got a platform too.
I want to give him all the respect I can and help him do what he needs to do to call out China for the abuses that are going on these concentration camps.
Yeah, definitely.
And he tweeted, and I retweeted him, he said if he goes down he's passing the torch and he wants me to pick it up, and I'm like...
I don't know if I can do a hunger strike, dude.
It takes a lot of strength, man.
My respect to Majid for this, so please, please, you know, follow him, see what he's up to, and, you know, let's all keep this conversation going to the best of our abilities.
And now let's read some of these superchats for all of you guys.
unidentified
All right, there we go.
tim pool
But before we do, you can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, and Parler at Timcast.
You can also follow at AdamKrigler on the same platforms.
lydia smith
And Parler.
tim pool
And Parler, as well as at SourPatchLids, L-Y-D-S.
And now we're gonna read your superchats.
JMaxx says, as a father of two, someone would end up in the ground.
If you have a kid or want kids, we need to be proactive.
Pay attention to your local government and keep up on what's happening in your kids' schools.
Keep up the good reporting, guys.
Appreciate it, man.
adam crigler
Definitely.
tim pool
And I think that's in reference to the LA County forced... Yeah.
That's scary stuff, man.
lydia smith
It's crazy.
tim pool
Oh, come on.
adam crigler
Take care of your kids.
You know what's going on.
tim pool
I just want to make it easy for me.
adam crigler
There's videos of teachers going, you know, I don't follow the curriculum.
I just teach racism.
Yep.
tim pool
We don't actually use the book.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And they're like, what year was the country founded?
adam crigler
Oh, 17 something.
tim pool
Yep.
lydia smith
Teach that.
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
I think the China story, man.
I think we need this, man.
I don't know.
genocide in China trending if we all tweet at Trump and Trump jr. The story
just a huge wave of tweets can't block us all spin that effing UFO I think the
China story man I think we need we need this man I don't know Trump's fighting
lydia smith
for a re-election was locked out of Twitter.
tim pool
Yeah, Trump Jr.' 's locked out of Twitter.
Is he still?
lydia smith
He was.
23 hours.
tim pool
Trump Jr.
got locked out.
This whole thing has been crazy, man.
It's gonna get crazier.
We're less than three months, three and a half months away from the election.
adam crigler
I can't believe it.
tim pool
It's gonna go nuts.
EpicMonkey says, Adam, how can I get a hold of you guys?
I really want to get on your show.
I have a lot of knowledge about what is going on.
No conspiracy but perspective.
I'm willing to part with $100 to reach you guys.
I've tried reaching out to the three of you on Parler recently.
adam crigler
I don't know.
What would be the best way?
tim pool
We have the email, I guess.
adam crigler
Spintheufo at gmail.com.
You can send all your information there.
We'll see what you have to offer.
tim pool
David Mesmer says, Harrison Bergeron is hands down my favorite short story.
It's only like four pages and definitely worth the read.
Love the show.
Y'all keep it up.
Appreciate it.
The Captain Z says, neverchina.com for products not made in China.
adam crigler
Ooh, cool.
Oh, what was that?
Neverchina.com.
tim pool
Neverchina.com.
Haven't researched the companies just yet, but I like the gist of it.
China needs U.S.
for food.
A lot of China's oil is delivered by the ocean, which we control.
Lot less food, little oil, victory for U.S.
But what they're doing is more subversive than that.
It's not just about a hot war, it's a cold war, and there's influence to be peddled.
adam crigler
Uh, that's not a site.
tim pool
NeverChina's not a site?
adam crigler
NeverChina.com.
tim pool
Oh.
lydia smith
Let me Google it.
tim pool
Yeah, try and Google it.
unidentified
I'll find out.
tim pool
Sporkwich says, the number of people just denying these things are happening as clickbait lies, conspiracy theories.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
This is the answer to the question of how the German people allowed the Nazis to do what they did.
They didn't want to believe.
And I talk to my friends about some of the things they post, and I'm like, you realize you're basically saluting.
That's true.
When you don't know, you don't want to know, you don't care, you're just saying, I agree with these people.
It's like, well, you're letting them do whatever they want.
lydia smith
Yep, passive agreement.
It is Chinanever.com.
adam crigler
Oh, Chinanever, not NeverChina.
tim pool
MH says, did you get the books I sent, How Trump is Making Black America Great Again by Horace Cooper and Taboo by Wilford Riley?
lydia smith
I actually haven't seen those ones yet.
tim pool
I don't know.
Not yet?
Maybe they'll come soon.
adam crigler
I'd like to read those.
tim pool
Whoa, what's going on with YouTube?
Yeah, they make it really hard to get through Super Chats, man, to be honest.
Gareth Green says, Pool Sunday.
The whole point of capitalism is that business doesn't have to care about countries.
Cheaper goods means more goods for more people.
Of course, it's not free trade with an authoritarian regime like China, so tariffs on those grounds are fair.
Ruggero Rebelato says, Has Tim Pool announced voting for Trump already?
I'm a Brazilian, ex-Israeli soldier.
Hope average U.S.
don't have to see what a man can do to each other.
With Bolsonaro, we are safe here for now.
Love you, USA.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
I have not announced that I will definitively do it.
But I did say that if the election were to be held today, I probably would.
And if Trump is going... I just say this because we don't know what's going to happen between now and then.
And I'm not going to play this game where it's like, you know, in three months something happens and I don't know.
TooLazyToMakeUpAName says, King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard Superbug.
All right, thank you.
Let's see, uh, Labrash says, Hey everyone, I'm a lucky uncle to two nieces, and one of my biggest issues, is which I'm very vocal, is when it comes to kids, everything about their future and safety, they are the future victims.
Yeah.
Man, we got so many super chats.
adam crigler
Thank you everyone.
tim pool
YouTube is overloading.
I don't know what that is.
says, $10 for Lydia and Adam likening tweets I put out today. Thanks. The rest is for Tim
Poole to speak on the anomaly tweets and if Tim will livestream debate him. I don't know
what that is. I don't look at any Twitter interaction, so I have no idea what that's
about.
Gareth Green says, by outsourcing of jobs is a natural consequence of price controls,
labor regulations, and other violations of the natural market.
Employment is a private contract in which employees lease their bodies to their employees, employers, for certain hours a day.
That's it.
Kaleem Mims.
You may not get this reference, but it feels like SJWs won't be happy until they turn the world into Slappy Bob Safety.
Learn a Torium from the Fairly Oddparents, just with creepier steps.
I don't know.
I think I'm just gonna give this one to Trump, honestly.
Havetome says, Creepy Zoom event on Eventbrite.
International meeting.
No to the new Cold War, July 25th.
I don't know what that is.
Nice.
I'll look it up.
I don't know.
I mean, I honestly have no idea what it would take.
across the country.
adam crigler
Nice.
tim pool
I'll look it up.
Villa Music Dude says, do you think after a disaster there is a possibility that we
can return to our heritage?
After listening to the Rogan podcast yesterday, it made me realize how far off we are now
from where we started.
Oh yeah.
I don't know.
I mean, I honestly have no idea what it would take.
Do we want to go back to certain things?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
I think we're too far gone.
We've changed.
We've changed very much so.
Ryan Cabral says, appreciate the work y'all do.
Have any of you guys heard about the recall for California State Governor Gavin Newsom?
Keep up the good work.
And Adam, I'm going to get my own UFO.
Love it when that thing spins.
adam crigler
Awesome.
I haven't heard of it.
I did know that he just became governor.
But from what I'm hearing, he's a terrible governor.
lydia smith
I think they've tried a couple times to recall him without success.
adam crigler
Yeah, well they should keep trying.
lydia smith
Yeah, I know, right?
unidentified
Let me spin that for him.
tim pool
BigMacAttack says, With how the admin panel for Twitter shows that they do in fact blacklist people in various forms, could Congress give Twitter's CEO a summons for effectively lying to Congress in the past where they claimed they didn't do such things?
I would imagine they could.
You have to go back and look at the specifics, because I'm sure there's some weasel words.
unidentified
That's the issue.
adam crigler
Of course, yeah.
tim pool
They're going to say, well, what does blacklist really mean?
adam crigler
Well, we actually said we don't do white lists.
tim pool
No, no, we don't have a list that's black paper with names on it.
It's not black paper, yeah.
Yeah, it's red.
It's an orange button.
Harpoon Trading says Tim, let's say your house is being destroyed by a random rogue goose who lays golden eggs for the whole world to enjoy.
The caveat being, the goose will not lay any eggs for only just you.
Do you kill that goose?
The answer is yes I do for one reason.
If you just pump gold into the money supply, it helps no one.
Now, actually, I would say this.
No, I wouldn't kill the goose, because we could use that gold for legitimate scientific research purposes.
We could use those metals for, you know, imagine if gold was that abundant.
It'd be amazing.
It would be worthless, because everybody would have an infinite supply of gold.
lydia smith
That's good for other stuff.
adam crigler
They actually just found a comet that is almost all gold.
Wow.
It's worth more than the entire world's economy.
tim pool
What it wouldn't if it came, because it would be worthless.
adam crigler
Well, if they could go mine it and bring it back in.
tim pool
It just safely landed on Earth.
Gold would become worthless overnight.
adam crigler
Here's the gold meteor coming down and smashing the like button.
tim pool
The Earth's economy.
lydia smith
The Earth's economy.
tim pool
Poofy says, Hi Tim, Lids, and Adam.
Have you had a chance to watch Don't Walk Run's newest AOC vid?
Town Hall featured insane concepts like restorative justice and lineage of harm.
I help him with his scripts, and we watched all two hours of that.
Oh, man.
I'll check it out.
I love those videos.
Those are great.
Don't Walk Run on YouTube are really great videos.
adam crigler
I don't know it.
tim pool
Yeah.
It's funny.
It's a really good presentation.
adam crigler
TooLazyToMakeUpAName says, Ride with me, brother.
Green Mountain Boys unite.
I don't know what that means, but my ride.
tim pool
Joshua Kitchen says, Read Booker T. Washington.
One of the greatest educators in all time.
Full stop.
His essays on character are some of the most brilliant thoughts you will ever read.
adam crigler
They talk about him in the documentary, Uncle Tom.
They bring him up.
tim pool
He's a legend, man.
He's one of the greatest.
adam crigler
Legend, yeah.
tim pool
Ponton says, Tim, have you seen the new video from Mr. Reagan called The Left-Wing Plot to Cause a Race War in America?
If not, please watch it.
I look forward to hearing your analysis and hope it answers many of the questions you still have.
I don't really watch a lot of YouTube except for skateboarding and guns.
You know, it's funny.
I used to say it was skateboarding and anime clips.
Now it's skateboarding and guns because of what's been going on.
I've been watching a ton of YouTubers.
adam crigler
Nice.
tim pool
I've been watching a lot of Hickok.
lydia smith
45.
Oh, he's so cool.
tim pool
He's got a big YouTube channel.
He's got 5 million subs.
lydia smith
Adoptive grandpa.
tim pool
But there was one I just watched recently where he has like a full auto... I think it's a Glock maybe?
I don't know.
lydia smith
I think so, yeah.
tim pool
But those are so much fun, man.
He's just holding his like... Yeah, it's fun videos, man.
That guy's great.
And YouTube keeps recommending these videos to me too, so I'm like, alright, you know, whatever.
adam crigler
Just keep watching it, man.
tim pool
Alright, let's see.
Where are we at now?
Gareth Green says, Did you hear about the murder of men's rights lawyer Mark Angelucci or how the Libertarian Party endorsed Black Lives Matter?
Also support Hong Kong by listening to 80s and 90s canto pop and watching Hong Kong movies of the same era.
I heard about both of those.
We talked about the Libertarian Party endorsing Black Lives Matter.
That to me was absolutely insane.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Because what the Libertarian Party said was, it's not enough to be passively not racist, we must be actively anti-racist.
The Libertarian Party telling someone what they must do is the antithesis of the Libertarian Party.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
The Libertarian Party is, you do your thing!
We're trying to minimize government here and have everyone be free to live and, you know, let live, but...
Hey, they wanted to get in on the pop culture stuff, so there you go.
adam crigler
Maybe we can cater to the crowd.
tim pool
Chris Crow says, agreed we should all act Donald J. Trump now with support and ask him to address Uyghur atrocities.
Help us get it trending.
I mean, Majid Nawaz, man.
He's in London, I think.
Good dude.
Flappy Dinosaur says, can you comment on Ghislaine Maxwell or Wayfair?
You're one of the few media outlets that I trust that is unbiased.
I would love to see your team win a Pulitzer.
That's never going to happen because we're never going to apply for one.
adam crigler
Do you have to apply?
tim pool
I'm fairly certain you apply.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
And the whole thing is bogus.
adam crigler
They don't just, they don't pick people that they think deserve it?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
You know you win an Emmy?
You ask for it.
adam crigler
Seriously?
tim pool
You pay, you pay.
The whole thing is rigged.
adam crigler
That's what's going on with Tom McDonald right now.
He...
I don't remember exactly what it takes to get a gold record version.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
And he sold that many copies.
He's got the proof, but he does it all himself.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Doesn't go through a label, just his own.
And he's like, they won't give it to me because I won't pay the... You can make his own.
So he ordered and got these plastic gold records.
tim pool
And he's like, yeah.
unidentified
That's amazing.
adam crigler
That's awesome.
lydia smith
I like this guy.
adam crigler
That dude's great.
tim pool
Yeah, cool dude.
unidentified
All right, let's see.
tim pool
Flowification says, based on the history I've read, civil strife and far-left movements give rise to the third position, fascism.
Do you think it's possible a third position movement could gain traction in the U.S.?
I do, and I've actually seen this quite a bit.
Antifa will give rise to fascism in the far right easily.
Regular people getting sick and tired of the violence will eventually say, save us.
And there's some speculation that in fact Joe Biden will win.
Joe Biden's gonna win, the Democrats will take, the House and the Senate, and when everything gets worse than it's ever been, that contributes to us not knowing what's gonna happen come November.
No idea.
We'll see, man.
adam crigler
I'm taking it one day at a time right now.
tim pool
Yup.
I gotta admit, it is really exhausting every day.
Tell me about it.
When there's like new polls and new electoral college and I'm just like, I read 500 of these in a week!
adam crigler
I'm starting to cherish our skate sessions, man.
tim pool
Yeah, dude.
It's the best.
It's like everything's just off.
adam crigler
It is.
I'm just focusing on landing that tre flip.
tim pool
Just having a good old time.
Just cruising.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Trying to get that nollie flip rock.
Snafu says, if you want to watch anything about guns, watch Brandon Herrera or Demolition Ranch.
Mostly humor.
I did watch some of the Demolition Ranch stuff.
lydia smith
That's fun.
tim pool
You guys are amazing.
Keep up the good work.
Will do.
adam crigler
Thank you very much.
tim pool
Tracy Nolan says, Adam, it's called the ripple effect.
One drop in a pond creates many ripples.
Don't get discouraged.
adam crigler
Thank you very much.
tim pool
We won't.
I won't.
Truly, uh, really sad news, man.
Yeah.
Grant was one of the, uh, he was the B-team on the Mythbusters.
Is that what they call it?
adam crigler
I guess I was the B-team, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, and, uh, man, it was always fun.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Mythbusters was such a huge meme.
adam crigler
It was a good show.
tim pool
Everybody I knew was always talking about Mythbusters.
Because it was a show we all watched, but it wasn't part necessarily of mainstream pop culture in that sense.
adam crigler
But it was pop culture in the fact that they talked about all the things that we talked about.
They're like, oh, this thing that everyone's talking about?
Well, let's do that.
tim pool
Let's talk about that.
adam crigler
Let's get the science.
tim pool
I remember, this is like in the 2000s, or whenever the show was prominent.
I can't remember what year it was.
My friends would post them on Facebook saying something like, you know, let's be honest, I know all of you watched that episode of Mythbusters.
Like, post your thoughts.
And everyone's like, yeah, we just watched Mythbusters, it was so cool.
And Graham was a big part of it.
He was 49, right?
adam crigler
Funny enough, scientific method is also whiteness.
tim pool
That's why it's sad to see, you know, Adam Savage, is that his name?
lydia smith
Yeah, I think so.
tim pool
Going like full-on weirdo resistance as social justice.
Yeah, it doesn't fly with what you do, man.
Like, look at Michael Moore.
His brain just exploded recently.
adam crigler
Someone just told me to really watch his new documentary because it's like anti-global warming.
tim pool
Michael Moore's new documentary calls environmentalism a big scam.
That's basically what it is, right?
The left is coming after him.
It seems like all of a sudden they pulled Michael Moore too much and eventually he just
snapped back.
adam crigler
Flew to the other side.
tim pool
What was Michael Moore championing back in the day?
The working class people of Flint and Detroit and Michigan.
Now he's all just like full on SJW but then I guess he just...
lydia smith
Stretched out rubber band.
adam crigler
Yeah, just like that.
tim pool
It snapped.
But now he's now he's like environmentalism is a scam.
Here's a documentary and people are like, what?
lydia smith
What just happened?
adam crigler
Right?
tim pool
I don't think he's saying that global warming is a scam.
adam crigler
I haven't seen it.
I want to check it out, though.
tim pool
I think what he's saying is that scams have emerged to manipulate people based on this ideology.
adam crigler
Now that I can get behind.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Yep.
adam crigler
Does that make sense to me?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Doom Crow says, can we have a discussion on yellow journalism at some point?
I mean, technically, I think we talk about that kind of a lot.
You know, I just rag on the media all the time.
And it's just...
Yeah, it's fake news, you know?
Bobby McCoy says, love your work.
Have condo with my boys about the executive order.
Ended up writing a whole doc with all the sources linking to all the law and regulation changes.
Want me to post?
Yes.
Yeah, you want to email that to, was it spintheufo?
lydia smith
Spintheufo at gmail.com.
tim pool
Send that, that'd be really, really, really great.
adam crigler
Yeah, I'd like to see that.
tim pool
Yeah, and we can go through it.
Nick Warren says, you should reach out to Rogan and see if he'll have Magid Noir's on.
That seems like something Joe would want to help publicize.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
Good point.
tim pool
Well, I'm not, I can't.
You know, it's like people are always like, call Joe and tell him.
adam crigler
It's a good idea.
lydia smith
It is a good idea.
adam crigler
But trying to call Joe to, you know, tell him, I don't know.
tim pool
I mean, you know, I'll definitely do, I'll hit up Joe and be like, dude, look at Magid.
Because I'm pretty sure, I think Magid may have already been on the Rogan podcast.
adam crigler
I think it's worth it.
tim pool
I mean, look, let's be real.
Magic Noir is a big platform and 270,000 followers.
It's a lot of people, yeah.
He's a high-profile intellectual dark web, you know, personality.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And what he's doing is absolutely amazing.
I bow before his grandeur, man.
lydia smith
Yeah, he was on with Sam Harris.
tim pool
Oh, he was on the Rugged Podcast.
lydia smith
Yeah, he's in.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
When was that?
Was it a while ago?
lydia smith
Episode 1107, so whatever, Joe's on now.
It was a year ago, huh?
tim pool
It was a while ago, yeah.
adam crigler
What episode are we on?
lydia smith
Are we on?
tim pool
For our show?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
96?
Yeah.
adam crigler
Is it 96?
Oh, 96 episodes!
That's crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
So four more episodes.
The 100th episode.
We gotta do something special for that.
lydia smith
Yeah, we'll have to come up with something.
adam crigler
It's pretty cool.
tim pool
100th episode?
unidentified
Yeah, dude.
tim pool
I have no idea.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's awesome.
I can't believe it's been over 90.
tim pool
Duane Turner says, ever looked into Holodomor and the correlation of the Democratic Socialist Party of the Bolsheviks with the modern Marxist-led movements of RAM and BLM using their Antifa tactics?
You should.
Tried posting four times.
I know a little bit about those things, but you know, we'll dig in.
adam crigler
I know about it from Jordan Peterson talking about it.
He talks about, he referenced them a lot because it parallels a lot with what's going on right now.
So that's where I get it from.
tim pool
Ruggero says, so much from the chat.
Love you guys.
Adam, you are amazing.
Tim, beacon of courage.
Lydia, so sweet and intelligent.
USA is amazing.
First time I could shoot an AR without feeling scared the next day.
Shout out to other Israeli lone soldiers.
It said shout out, so I was like, wait, are you talking about like injuring somebody?
adam crigler
Well, I'm glad you can not be afraid anymore.
tim pool
Rick Hunter says, Tim, watch Military Arms Channel, Hank Strange and IraqVeteran8888, Collian Noir.
Great info on true Americans.
Yeah, is it Collian?
lydia smith
Collian.
tim pool
Yeah, that dude's cool too.
lydia smith
He's so cool.
tim pool
Um, I definitely want to do something with him.
Maybe, maybe once we get the, we've talked about it before, I'm pretty sure.
lydia smith
Yeah, he offered you training after your thing.
unidentified
Right, right, right, right.
lydia smith
Yeah, yeah.
So we got to get him on.
Yeah, for sure.
tim pool
Once we, once we get to the big space where our top secret hidden location, we have our range set up and everything.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
We definitely got to reach out.
adam crigler
But if you want to be a guest on the show, you got to sign a waiver.
tim pool
And then the van pulls up randomly.
adam crigler
Throws a black bag.
lydia smith
That's right.
We were just talking about it.
adam crigler
Back with the black bagging.
tim pool
So I have a really important question for you, Adam.
It's just one of those profound questions of the universe that, how could you have 37,000 viewers and only 19,000 likes on a YouTube channel?
It's a math equation that I'm just wondering, maybe a powerful mind... Well, Tim, what you see, not everyone's smashing the like button like they should be.
adam crigler
So, I don't have it.
tim pool
Which one?
Thank you.
adam crigler
It should have been obvious.
tim pool
Does that actually work?
I think it works.
I don't know.
adam crigler
I think they heard it.
tim pool
I'm just saying smash the like button because it's 10.04 and we're going to start winding down.
adam crigler
No, but thanks for showing up everyone.
We really appreciate everyone showing up.
tim pool
We're going to be getting a A stream deck just for Adam, and he's going to be in charge of making noise.
lydia smith
Gratuitously making noise.
adam crigler
I had a tweet yesterday about what sounds I should have on my board.
If you think you know something good, go on my page on Twitter and you can give some ideas.
You can find the tweet.
It's from yesterday, so you might have to scroll down a little bit.
tim pool
I have two votes.
One is Trump going, wrong, wrong.
And the other one is, excuse me, excuse me.
adam crigler
I need that one the most.
tim pool
Yeah, excuse me.
And Jada.
adam crigler
Of course, I'm going to have some Trump sounds.
lydia smith
Of course.
tim pool
All right, everybody, if you haven't subscribed, do so because we do the show Monday through Friday at 8 p.m.
and we're going to be back tomorrow night.
What's today?
Today's Thursday.
We'll be back tomorrow night at 8 p.m.
live to hang out with all of you because we love you so much.
But Adam needs a favor.
adam crigler
You can't let him down.
Adam cast IRL.
This Saturday, I'm going to be doing a deep dive into Donald Trump.
It's going to be a big episode because Everyone thinks they know who he is.
And I think most people, a lot of people probably do, but I've been doing nothing but reading about this.
I've been doing a lot of researching everything.
My brain is just a sponge right now, just soaking up everything.
But I've learned a lot about this guy.
I'm going to talk about his family history, what he's been through, where, where he came from, the stuff he's done, um, before he became president.
And especially the things he's done as president, because I feel like that needs to be put to rest.
And we're going to talk about it.
So follow me on AdamCastIRL.
Come hit me up.
And Saturday, Ian will join me.
tim pool
And that's on YouTube.
AdamCastIRL is Adam's Saturday show on YouTube.
adam crigler
That's correct, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, you can subscribe to his channel.
It's basically Adam's Deep Dive.
It's the same set and everything.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's basically this.
tim pool
If you like hanging out, it's basically the same thing.
adam crigler
We do, on TimCast, we jam.
At Friday shows, at my show, we jam every show.
tim pool
Every show.
That's right.
adam crigler
Every show.
Ian's a great musician.
He jams out.
I like to play some music, so after the Trump deep dive, we will be jamming out also.
tim pool
And tomorrow.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
We're gonna jam out tomorrow night.
Adam pops open the whiskey and we chill out.
It's a Friday night.
adam crigler
I do.
tim pool
Because we can't go to the movies, we can't go to the bars, so we're like... And neither can you.
adam crigler
Yes.
So, you know, we try to let go of the news and kind of hang out after the show.
tim pool
The crazy thing is things were reopening and then they started closing again.
Right.
I asked this question on Twitter.
When did we switch from tracking COVID deaths to ignoring them and only tracking COVID cases?
adam crigler
That's what I'm trying to talk about.
tim pool
I didn't mean it as like, you know, haha, I got you.
I mean, as a literal question, like I, I remember early on, we were like, wow, how many people have died today?
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And they were on the news.
There were like a hundred deaths in New York and a hundred deaths.
And then now it's like, you know, more cases, more cases, but no deaths.
adam crigler
Well, the deaths are going down and it's like, yeah, because, and that's why Trump was like, we're just testing everyone.
And it's turned, you know, the death, if you compare the death rates now, it's just getting a smaller and smaller death rate because more people are just alive with COVID.
And it's like, so it's not really that big of a deal.
It seems.
tim pool
And they're cheering for New York.
They're like, New York's done a great job, you know, because the death rate is down and the infection rate is down.
adam crigler
Look at how much the death rate's dropping.
And it's like, yeah, because you killed so many people, Cuomo.
tim pool
When you just let the virus do whatever it wants, eventually it stops.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Congratulations.
adam crigler
But you made a good point, though.
These people that are like, ha, gotcha.
You know, that is the emotional trigger that they're not trying to have a critical conversation about what we're really talking about.
They're just so angry that you could suggest that COVID isn't this crazy pandemic killing everyone.
And it's like, well, maybe it's not.
I'm just trying to have a conversation.
I'm just trying to ask a question.
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
Let's talk about it.
Can we talk about it?
No, no, no.
I just want to screech at you.
tim pool
We're supposed to be winding now, but I gotta ask.
Did you see that video from the Portland police officer?
He's a black officer talking about how the white antifa keep trying to shut him down and stop conversations.
adam crigler
No, no.
tim pool
It's an amazing video.
adam crigler
No, I gotta see this.
tim pool
He's basically like...
You know, it's 21 days or whatever of these riots, and he's like, a young black woman comes up to me and is asking me, like, why don't you talk to us?
And he says, to be honest, every time I try, some, like, white, you know, Antifa person comes up, and then as soon as he says that, a white Antifa woman gets in the way and starts yelling, and then the young black woman goes, he said you were gonna do that!
And that's it.
He's like, these people who think they have a right to tell us what we can or can't say, it's crazy.
adam crigler
Hit me up on Twitter.
I know you guys are paying attention right now.
Tag me in that video.
lydia smith
Yeah, it's a great video.
adam crigler
I appreciate you.
tim pool
It's a powerful video, man.
adam crigler
I want to see that.
tim pool
Alright, we're going to wrap things up here.
So again, smash the like button.
adam crigler
Let's wrap this up.
tim pool
Subscribe, and we will see you all tomorrow at 8pm plus.
Late night jam session, and Adam's going to crack open the whiskey.
Adios, everybody.
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