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May 26, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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TimcastIRL - Jimmy Fallon FINALLY Apologizes For Being A Comedian After Woke Crowd Cancels Him
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tim pool
How's it going everybody?
Welcome to the TimCast IRL podcast.
I am Tim Pool, hanging out with some friends tonight.
adam crigler
What's going on?
It's Adam.
How you doing, guys?
Thanks for showing up.
tim pool
And?
lydia smith
Me, with the sticky buttons over here.
Sorry about that.
tim pool
Sticky buttons.
lydia smith
Lydia.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
There we go.
tim pool
F. We started, I think, a half a minute early, so nobody can be mad, but they're all putting Fs in chat anyway.
adam crigler
Well, that's fine.
That's how we start the show.
lydia smith
Yeah, it's normal.
tim pool
Fs in chat.
adam crigler
Yeah, the F's for respect.
unidentified
For us.
adam crigler
That's right.
tim pool
It's like a minute lag, actually.
That's ridiculous.
adam crigler
Is it?
tim pool
Yeah.
Meh.
Anyway, man, today was one of the stupidest days ever.
For a lot of reasons.
I woke up to like two different cancel culture nonsense.
We got, you know, apparently Jimmy Fallon.
People finally figured out that he did blackface.
And now all of a sudden they're mad about it.
He actually apologized because he's a comedian and he's sorry for being a comedian.
That's the way I see it at least.
unidentified
Good.
tim pool
He should apologize.
And then we got that Karen versus Karen clash.
Central Park.
Two Karens collide.
One Karen obviously worse than the other, but still two Karens complaining about each other.
And the crazy thing about this story, if you didn't see it, some dude basically told some lady to put a dog on a leash.
She started screeching, called the cops.
She lost her job.
She lost a dog.
She's like, my life is over.
And it's just like, since when did two people getting into a stupid verbal argument for 30 seconds in a park turn into national news?
adam crigler
Honestly, it happens all the time in New York.
It's like that happens all the time.
It's insane.
I skate down the street and I could point it out.
There's this on this block.
There's that those Karens fighting.
Oh, there's another pair of Karens fighting.
tim pool
You can do like street tours where it's unusual.
And if you look to your left, there are two Karens arguing with each other.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
Look to your right.
There's another Karen.
And that one is we're trying to figure out what a male Karen was.
What do you think we should go with?
adam crigler
Well, there's a few good ones.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
We said Richard.
That's good.
Richard.
Jerry's really good.
tim pool
Jerry.
adam crigler
I really like Jerry.
I think that might be a winner for me.
tim pool
The thing about, so the Jerry is like a Rick and Morty thing, but Jerry's pathetic in Rick and Morty, you know?
adam crigler
Yeah.
But Karen's pretty pathetic though.
I mean, in a different manner.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
She's, she's forceful.
tim pool
Maybe Jerry is right because it's the opposite.
It's like a frail, pathetic man who whines too much.
Whereas the Karen is an overly aggressive woman who thinks she's entitled to everything.
adam crigler
That does seem to be what happened here at Central Park.
tim pool
Bro, Karen, Karenism.
Karenism.
Karenism.
Is toxic femininity.
lydia smith
I think you're right.
tim pool
Entitlement.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
You know, it's like, it's, you know, I can do what I want.
You have to listen to me because I'm in charge.
It's that kind of mentality.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
That's why I tweeted this earlier that cancel culture is just the online form of Karen culture.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, everything we've complained about with Karens walking up to people and complaining, it's like, what do you think cancel culture was?
Like, what do you think the thing is with Jimmy Fallon?
You're not allowed to do that, Jimmy Fallon.
That joke is offensive.
It's like, well, it's 20 years ago, man.
I don't care.
You can't do that.
That's what it is.
adam crigler
I want to know who was actually upset.
Who was the one who was really upset?
A bunch of Karens.
A bunch of white Karens going, That's from something.
tim pool
What is that from?
It's like a South Park or something.
adam crigler
I have no idea.
I'm sure it's from something, but... Oh, it's from American Dead.
tim pool
It's from American Dead.
Yeah, Roger is trying to get money from Hayley, and so he does that no matter what.
It's his response to everything until she finally just gives up.
It's actually a good representation of what these people do.
adam crigler
Never seen that book.
That's what I feel like they're doing.
tim pool
Dude, the studies show that the progressive activists who do this are overwhelmingly white and female.
Not surprising.
It's Karen's who got access to the internet and then used cartoon avatars on Twitter so you can't tell what they are when they complain.
And then for some reason, Coca-Cola, I'm using them figuratively, not literally, companies like Coke, bend over backwards when a cartoon tiger character complains on the internet.
I love it.
adam crigler
God, no one cared for 20 years.
20 years later.
He did blackface 20 years ago.
No one cared.
tim pool
No one cares now.
adam crigler
No one cares now!
Exactly!
tim pool
But he apologizes because people are sitting there like, I'm bored.
I wonder if I can get a rise out of somebody.
It's like literal trolling.
adam crigler
Hashtag Jimmy Fallon is over party.
It's ridiculous.
tim pool
You know what?
He wasn't funny to begin with.
adam crigler
He wasn't bad.
He was mediocre.
He wasn't like the all-star on SNL.
tim pool
His whole shtick was that he would break character so you'd laugh and be a part of the joke.
That only lasts so long.
Then we get this other- but we're gonna get serious here.
We're gonna get serious here.
Because people are like, dude, why are you talking about this Karen stuff?
There's more serious- there is.
Some dude got killed.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's messed up.
tim pool
In Minnesota.
And it's funny to me that these are the three stories we have and I'm like, can y'all shut up about Jimmy Fallon and about this lady with the dog?
Because this other story's messed up.
adam crigler
Right, it's like they're trying to shove this Karen thing down your throat.
Did you see what happened?
unidentified
Karen.
adam crigler
Whose side are you on?
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
It's like, no, I don't care about either of them.
They're both douches.
tim pool
That's kind of the point with leading with a Jimmy Fallon story.
We're going to make fun of the story.
We're going to make fun of people pretending to care about this.
That's a thing.
And then we're going to talk about this dude in Minnesota.
It's a complicated, as per usual, story.
This dude, if you guys aren't familiar with what happened, this guy was getting arrested.
It was a forgery call, and the cop pins him to the ground, puts his knee on his neck.
For eight minutes, the dude dies.
adam crigler
He died right there on the ground?
tim pool
Well, the police said he was in medical distress.
They brought him to the hospital where he died.
I wouldn't be surprised if they killed him on the ground.
But we gotta look at the context, we gotta check out the story, so we're gonna get into it.
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And on that, we're going to talk about some stuff.
Maybe we got some space to talk about it, but I think today's big thing is going to be the power of the internet.
Because you look at the story about the dude who lost his life, and this shows you how the internet is actually a good thing.
So far.
Like, I don't want to jump the gun on the story.
But when you can have someone film, like, an injustice that normally would be overlooked, then the internet, it's powerful, it's a good thing.
But then if you get these stories about, like, Jimmy Fallon or some lady in the park, you're like, man, people gotta put the phone down.
It's like, not everything needs to be filmed and put on the internet, you know?
lydia smith
Seriously.
tim pool
You know what the weirdest thing is, though?
With this Karen story in New York?
They had the same last name.
So, like, all the news reports are like, Amy Cooper had a confrontation with Chris Cooper, no relation.
It's like, oh, that's kind of weird.
lydia smith
That's really weird.
tim pool
I wonder if they actually are related, like, going back really, really, really far.
lydia smith
I don't know.
unidentified
Maybe.
tim pool
Well, we'll see.
The first story that we got for all y'all.
lydia smith
Alright.
tim pool
Jimmy Fallon apologizes for resurfaced Blackface 2000 SNL skit.
My first instinct and my first thought is, why?
And who cares?
Jimmy Fallon is basically apologizing for being a comedian, which he should have done a long time ago, but fine.
They say Jimmy Fallon apologized on Tuesday after a Saturday Night Live skit that aired 20 years ago resurfaced featuring him appearing in blackface to impersonate fellow former SNL cast member Chris Rock.
The video made the rounds on social media over Memorial Day holiday weekend, sending the hashtag JimmyFallonIsOverParty trending by Tuesday morning.
Fallon, now the host of NBC's The Tonight Show, took to Twitter to apologize for the skit, calling his impersonation of Rock while in blackface a terrible decision and unquestionably offensive decision, yet one that no one cared about for 20 years, and certainly no one cares about now.
They're just pretending, and you know what?
If you want to apologize because you're on SNL and every single person on SNL was okay with it and went along with it, fine.
How about the rest of them come out and apologize too?
How about Lorne Michaels and NBC and all of those people come out and apologize.
Bro, are we gonna have to get the estates of old comedians in the 20s to come out and apologize?
I can't believe the jokes they made back then.
adam crigler
That's the number one requirement for being a Karen.
You have to be offended for other people.
lydia smith
Yep, exactly.
adam crigler
I'm offended that you did something that'll offend someone else, so I'm fighting for all those people.
I don't know any of them, but I'm gonna fight.
tim pool
Shut up.
So sick of it.
It's like they want to enforce rules, that's what it is.
adam crigler
Yep, I want some power.
tim pool
It doesn't matter what the rule is, it's like I'm gonna tell you what you're supposed to do.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Here's what they say.
While the full sketch is not available on NBC's online platforms, a portion of it was uploaded to YouTube in early February 2019, shortly after NBC News canceled Megyn Kelly Today in the wake of the Morning Host's on-air Halloween blackface defense.
Now, it wasn't even a defense.
Megyn Kelly on NBC, first of all, that was a disaster.
Hiring Megyn Kelly was one of the stupidest things they could have done.
She said something like, People put makeup on Halloween all the time.
Like, why is that offensive?
And everybody was like, on the show, they were like, well, it is for these reasons.
She goes, huh?
And that was it.
She was fired.
adam crigler
She went, huh?
And got fired for it.
tim pool
She asked why it was offensive.
She was like, I don't understand.
You know, people dress up all the time.
Why is it offensive?
adam crigler
So she was simply asking.
tim pool
She was just ignorant.
She had no idea.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And they fired her.
adam crigler
How do you become unignorant though?
You ask questions and get enlightened by people.
tim pool
This is why I think you see things like walk away.
Nobody wants to be associated with these people.
They're unforgiving zealots.
adam crigler
Yep.
unidentified
Basic.
tim pool
It's like, man, it really is this like dystopian nightmare 1984 style thing.
It's like, I don't know if you've ever seen that skit.
Who's that guy from Portlandia?
lydia smith
Oh, with the guy who wears the blue paint?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
No, blue paint?
adam crigler
I don't know his name, but like the main actor you mean?
tim pool
He's got that skit where he's a dictator and he's like, you know... In Parks and Rec?
Is that what it was?
You know the skit?
adam crigler
I think so.
He's from some South American country and he's like, your town is very small.
We have much bigger towns.
And you, you, you, you slice the chicken wrong, straight to jail.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
You, you, Undercooked the chicken?
tim pool
Jail.
adam crigler
Overcooked the chicken?
Jail.
unidentified
He goes, believe it or not, jail.
adam crigler
That's what you're talking about?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's exactly it.
It's like you're walking down the street and you're eating an ice cream and a drip hits the ground and it's like slow motion as it falls and you're like and then splatters and all of a sudden all the Karens go You look down and you look up and you're surrounded by Karen's and they're all like pointing at you and Jerry's and the Jerry's huddling scared and you're like do something he's like please please
adam crigler
I feel like Jerry is the weak-willed version of the male Karen, but I don't know if it encompasses the full male Karen identity.
tim pool
I don't think there is a male.
What is a male Karen?
adam crigler
The guy from Central Park today.
He started the Karening.
He was like, Karen!
Can we just call it a Karenism?
And she was like, oh, well, I'll raise you by Karening more.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
And it was truly Karening intensifying.
It was like exactly that.
tim pool
Can we just call it like a Karenism?
Can we make it like a functioning ideology?
adam crigler
I just...
tim pool
Well, let's keep it to Jimmy Fallon for now because we're going to jump into that for sure.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Because we've got to talk about Robert Downey Jr.
adam crigler
Oh, right.
tim pool
Yeah, and what is or isn't offensive.
adam crigler
Because every so often, some new, young Karen, up-and-coming Karen, sees the movie, or sees an old tweet, and tweets it out, like, how are we not canceling this person?
And it's like, oh my gosh.
unidentified
Uncancelable.
adam crigler
Seriously.
It happened a couple weeks ago.
Robert Downey Jr.
was trending.
I'm like, oh, great.
What's going on?
Sure enough, I'd say about 90% of the tweets were making fun of the original tweet.
Like, look at this, another person that is a social justice warrior trying to bring Robert Downey Jr.
down.
It's like, wow.
tim pool
It reminds me of South Park, when they started the whole PC cycle for the latest seasons.
There's an old guy who goes, oh, looks like political correctness is back again.
And they're like, how long do you think it'll last?
He's like, oh, about six, seven years.
Because it comes.
It was in the 90s.
It comes and goes in waves.
There's a moral authoritarian that comes.
Moral authoritarianism.
But what's really funny about these young people It's like their first foray into society.
It's like you're a little kid, and you're in school, and you're not really doing anything.
It's like you're playing with action figures, doing TikToks or whatever it is that kids these days are doing.
And then you get older, and now you're on the internet.
And now you're 14, 15, and you're actually on Twitter with a bunch of 40-year-olds, and you're basically being told, as your first entry into adulthood, All we do all day is form swarms to target people over perceived slights and destroy them and destroy their lives.
And so they're like, this is what I'm supposed to do, right?
So then all of a sudden they see Robert Downey Jr.
And they're like, wait a minute.
I thought we were supposed to go and swarm people and destroy them.
What about this guy?
And the older ones are like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, not Robert.
And you even got young people who are like fans of, you know, Marvel, who are like, oh man.
What about this one, right?
Here, let me, let me, let me pull up this story.
Millennials called cancel.
Wait, what is this?
Millennials called cancel to Robert Downey Jr.
after discovering his role in Tropic Thunder.
adam crigler
This is from May 2020, so this is exactly what I was talking about a couple weeks ago.
tim pool
This is the one you saw.
Now, I don't know if the sources play Crazy Game, so I just jumped back to Robert Downey Jr.
actually opening up about his use of blackface in Tropic Thunder.
It's from January.
Apparently it comes up all the time.
adam crigler
I'm sure it does.
tim pool
Yeah.
Look at this!
Like, it's actually one of the best performances in... It's not even really... Here's the thing about blackface.
When they used to do actual blackface back in the day, it was purposefully insightful and, like, meant to be exaggerated and derogatory, the way they would put the makeup on their mouths.
adam crigler
Right, right.
tim pool
And they would wear gloves.
It was, like, purposefully insulting and attacking and mocking.
If somebody's impersonating someone else, all of a sudden that's become blackface.
And now there was, like, some woman, I think, like, on The View or something, she put on bronzer in the 70s, and then people saw the photo and they were like, that's blackface!
It's like, no matter, it's just becoming, like, It's just not.
But now it is.
One day you're going to go tanning and they're going to be like, oh, you're putting on tan face or whatever.
adam crigler
Who did he play?
He played Chris Tucker?
Chris Rock.
Did Chris Rock get upset?
unidentified
Did he care?
tim pool
Nah, it didn't seem like he did.
adam crigler
It's like, Chris Rock is, he's pretty famous.
He's a funny, he's hilarious actually.
He's, he's, many of his movies have made me laugh.
And it's like, so, so Jimmy Fallon was, was just pretending to be a great comedian.
Can we do, can we say that instead?
And it's like, no, no, no, no, no.
It's racist.
I think it's a racist thing.
tim pool
I think people are bored, you know?
adam crigler
Is that what it is?
It's just boredom?
tim pool
Yeah, I think so.
adam crigler
Social justice boredom.
unidentified
Because think about what would be happening if- Look, look- That's like the worst.
tim pool
I grew up skateboarding, right?
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
I got no time for this.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
We gotta go and get them kickflips!
So we'd wake up in the morning and I'd be like, what's on the agenda for today?
And we had the internet.
We'd go on the internet.
We didn't have cancel culture for the most part.
But for me, it's like, I don't care if someone posted some dumb video.
I'd be like, you see that guy who did that video thing?
It's like, oh yeah, whatever.
Hey man, you want to go to that stair set?
Yeah.
Remember that guy, TheCubsField, who tried to catch that ball?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You already know what I'm talking about.
I didn't even describe it.
adam crigler
Of course I do.
I mean, I'm from Chicago.
It was the catch, or the lack of catch.
He did catch it, though, didn't he?
I think he did catch it.
tim pool
Yeah, and he stopped Moises Alou, I think it was, from catching it.
adam crigler
Supposedly, that was the reason they didn't go to the playoffs.
It's like, whatever.
tim pool
It was the downside.
That was as close as I think we got to cancel culture.
But no one still cared.
He got threats.
He got escorted out of the stadium.
I think I was on Friendster at the time.
adam crigler
Friendster.
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah.
Do you remember Friendster?
Did you have a Friendster?
adam crigler
I did.
I'm pretty sure I had a Friendster account.
tim pool
I had a LiveJournal and a YouJournal.
I have no idea.
What the heck?
What was that one on Hot or Not or something?
adam crigler
I have no idea.
tim pool
All these sites were popping up.
What the heck?
And then the first like actual social media, I guess technically the journals were the
first social media.
Then we had Friendster, then MySpace, then Facebook.
And there were some weird ones in between, like little one-offs and stuff that kind of
just disappeared.
But none of us cared about what anyone else was posting.
You'd go to someone's MySpace page, it'd be littered with trash and weird HTML code and music and glitter would be sprinkling everywhere.
And they would post offensive things and nobody would say anything.
No one cared.
It's like, where did all this come from?
adam crigler
Cairns.
Cairns aboard.
Cairns be on the internet now.
tim pool
You know, thinking about it, this is interesting.
I was told when I was at Fusion, right?
So for those unfamiliar, Fusion was a joint venture between ABC News and Univision.
They said women share the most.
So I asked them, like, why are we doing this kind of content?
And I was told by somebody that angry women are the most likely to share stuff.
So if you want to get content that gets the most traffic and the most views.
adam crigler
Piss off a woman.
tim pool
Yes.
adam crigler
So Karens perpetuate Karens.
tim pool
That's what I was saying the other day about how they manipulated the algorithm and how it created social justice.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
It's because they were specifically targeting middle-aged women.
For sure.
Like literally they said mothers who are angry share more than anyone else.
adam crigler
So in that sense mainstream media has actually been telling Karens for years that they're correct.
tim pool
Yep.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Yeah, and then letting them loose?
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
It's like, dude, you want to find some blame?
Basically, BuzzFeed and Huffington Post and Vox have had, like, a giant, you know, cage full of ravenous Karens, and the Karen barons were standing atop the stadium, and they pulled the, you know, the rope or whatever, and it lifts up the gate, and all the Karens start running out going, and then we're all running like, and now they've unleashed all the Karens on everybody.
adam crigler
Karen Baron.
I can't unhear that.
tim pool
I love that so much.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's fantastic.
I feel like it's like the highest order echelon of Karen.
Like, all Karens aspire to be the Karen Baron.
tim pool
Kind of.
It's the dark conspiracy behind the Karens.
It's more like, I would say it's more akin to a mad scientist genetically engineering Karens in a lab.
adam crigler
Okay, I see.
tim pool
So it's like, you have a regular middle-aged mom and she like, She walks in, and the kids are playing in the back, and she's like, I'm gonna make some sandwiches for ya.
What do you want, the peanut butter and jelly?
Oh, don't you know that's not good for you to play there in the mud like that?
And then she walks inside, and she's going, oh boop boop, and she's buttering the bread, and then her phone boops, and she goes, oh, what's this someone sending me a text message?
And she opens it up, and it's some police brutality video from NowThis, and then all of a sudden her hair just goes, and like makes the shape, and she's like, That's how they get the haircut, huh?
Yeah.
lydia smith
Okay, that makes sense.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
The hair just like forms into that weird, what is that haircut even called?
lydia smith
It's like a short asymmetrical bob.
adam crigler
It's a Karen.
unidentified
Yeah, it's a Karen.
tim pool
It's called a Karen.
adam crigler
It's a Karen.
Karen cut.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Karen cut.
lydia smith
Correct.
tim pool
And then like her hair changes and her son walks in and he's like, Mom, are you okay?
And she goes, and she like runs out and she's like, starts pointing at people.
adam crigler
Put your dog on a leash!
tim pool
You!
You made a joke 20 years ago!
And then it's where we are today.
And then they form online communities.
And then they're sitting in their keyboards, you know, they're bored.
adam crigler
It's actually, you know, but to be honest, like... It's funny, we're totally talking about someone doing blackface 20 years ago, and we keep getting into the Karen conversation.
I know, I know.
It's the same.
It's all kind of an amalgamation of the same thing that's been going on.
tim pool
But I was reading a story about trolls, right?
adam crigler
They are Karens.
They're all Karens.
tim pool
There was a story about trolls.
And, like, I think it was in the UK, they tracked down the trolls.
They, like, somebody sent a nasty comment to them.
And so they, like, take a car and they go drive out to Milnor and they go to the guy's house and knock on the door.
And they're like, are you, you know, Angus McCloud 53?
Okay.
And the guy's like, yeah.
And he's like, you send a message to me saying this, that, and this.
Why would you do it?
And the guy's like, oh, uh, I don't know.
I just, you know, I was on the internet, I guess.
And like, they don't really know.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So I remember reading this story.
adam crigler
Public shaming, basically.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But it's, it's like, why do people want to join a mob and jump and jump around and do the same thing as everybody else?
It's like a survival mechanism, I guess.
adam crigler
Because everyone wants to be a part of something.
That's it.
We're humans.
That's what we do.
And the way society is built, we get our own little cubicle boxes that we live in.
We're by ourselves.
A lot of people don't find others, aren't lucky to find someone else that makes them happy.
So then they become miserable.
They go on the internet.
They meet with all the other miserable people.
And then those people create the Karenism that we have today.
That's it.
tim pool
Man.
adam crigler
People want connection.
They want to be connected.
So me yelling at you and having anyone else go, yeah, I agree with that guy yelling at this dude.
I'm going to yell at him too.
And it's like, boom.
tim pool
All of a sudden, they want to have a group.
adam crigler
Or a tribe, really.
Tribalism, right.
tim pool
In the real world, we have care and herd immunity.
Because if you have a neighborhood, let's say you have a community group or whatever, maybe it's a church or something, and you have 100 people, And for every hundred person, let's say there are, you know, for every fifty people you get a Karen.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
If you have a hundred people and you have two Karens, when that one Karen steps out of line, the group isn't in line with the Karening.
They push back and the Karen recoils and, oh, oh, oh, you know, I don't want to offend the group, right?
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So you get one Karen in this, you know, two Karens in a group of a hundred.
One Karen speaks up and starts, you know, basically complaining.
But the people all around her are like, stop complaining, stop, you're rocking the boat.
And so the Cairn backs down.
adam crigler
Good point.
tim pool
But when the Cairns can go on the internet, and be surrounded by Cairns, and now there's no more herd immunity because they're surrounded by Cairns.
They, you know, basically, you know, by our powers combined, we become Captain Cairn.
And all of that Cairnism is now unfettered and unrestrained, and just takes, a concentrated force emerges, and then it's like, It reminds me of, you know that game, what is it called, like Katamari or whatever?
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
It's like the little guy and he like rolls the ball or something.
What was that game called?
Katamari?
Do you know what I'm talking about?
adam crigler
You referenced it before.
No, I don't.
lydia smith
Sorry.
adam crigler
And it like gathers junk as it goes.
tim pool
Yeah, it just keeps getting bigger and bigger.
adam crigler
Yeah, I've never played it, but we've talked about it a long time ago.
tim pool
That's what it is, man.
The Karen starts the snowball, and people get sucked into it.
And you gotta resist.
Because for me, I don't know, man.
If I saw a large crowd of people, and they were all waving pitchforks and screaming, I'd get away from them.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Why would you want to be in that, you know?
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
I was at a Trump rally in San Jose, and I had this viral video clip where a guy walks up behind a Trump supporter and smacks him in the back of the head with what's like a bag of something.
They said it was a bag of rocks.
And I remember being there.
It was nuts.
They were attacking people.
This one dude, who was clearly not a Trump supporter, got punched in the mouth, like in the lower jaw, and his mouth's bleeding.
And it's because he was in one of these mobs.
No one knew what was going on.
No one knew what they were doing or why they were doing it.
All they knew is that when one person started running towards another person, the whole mob would go after him and start stomping and punching and beating the person.
And that's what I see when I see these online things like, oh, Jimmy Fallon, oh no, it's like he's a joke.
That's what it is.
You know?
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
It's like nobody actually cares.
They're just there.
I don't know, man.
People have fun running with a crowd of people romping and stomping, I guess.
adam crigler
But he apologized, so he obviously, he admitted that he did something wrong, so he did something wrong.
tim pool
Fire him then.
adam crigler
Yeah, sure.
Jimmy Fallon, you messed up, because I don't think you did anything wrong, but by you giving in to these Karens and saying, I'm sorry that I was a comedian, and I thought, or actually, no, I did something that was funny 20 years ago, here we are in 2020, you're apologizing for it.
It's like, dude, that's on you.
You let the Karens win.
tim pool
Did you see Ellen make that joke about the lockdown where she was like, it feels like I'm in prison because everyone's wearing the same clothes?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Or she's like, I'm wearing the same clothes and everyone around me, everyone around me is gay or whatever.
adam crigler
Right.
Mad people started to get upset.
It's just like, okay.
tim pool
I thought it was a dumb joke.
adam crigler
Sure.
It was, it was a bad joke.
tim pool
Joe Rogan thought it was hilarious.
adam crigler
I mean, there's, because it was still a joke.
unidentified
Right, right.
adam crigler
There's some people out there that like bad jokes or trolly jokes.
tim pool
You know what, man?
Comedy is not allowed.
Just none of it.
adam crigler
That's what it seems like nowadays.
tim pool
I'll put it this way.
If you're Ricky Gervais, if you're Dave Chappelle, if you're Kevin Hart, if you're Joe Rogan... Who am I missing?
Who's a good one?
Bill Burr?
Bill Burr's pretty good.
He's great, yeah.
You're allowed to be a comedian.
All of you guys.
You have my permission.
If you're Jimmy Fallon, or anyone, or Ellen, or anybody else... Actually, did Ellen apologize for that?
adam crigler
I have no idea.
tim pool
If you're any one of these comedians who's going to apologize because you told a joke and people got angry, you do not have my permission to be a comedian.
I'm kidding.
It's not like you need it.
It's a joke.
But I'm just saying, why be a comedian if you're like, let me tell a joke and then a day later it's like you're fired?
Just stop.
Just give up.
Your audience is insane.
They don't want jokes.
How do you even tell these jokes?
adam crigler
How can you be a comedian with that thin of skin?
Comedians say brutal things, and they get ridiculed, and they get laughed at, and people... It's either you love them or you hate them.
But the best comedians don't care about anyone that hates them, and focus on the people that like them, and then that spreads.
And then they get better at being a comedian, and then they get more well-known.
Like, look at Ricky Gervais!
unidentified
He says the craziest stuff to all... Like, he... What was it?
adam crigler
The Oscars?
That he bombed them?
He dropped bombs on all those people!
He was dropping fire and it was hilarious and they were sweating.
They were looking around like, are we supposed to be really upset right now?
Are we letting this happen?
And he's like, I don't care.
And that's it right there.
He just doesn't care.
And that's like, bravo, Ricky.
You're the best.
lydia smith
Seriously.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
It's like, we need that.
We need that in comedy right now.
Jimmy Fallon, you are ruining it for more comedians.
This is just, it's just one more domino falling down.
tim pool
I mean, good riddance.
Fire him.
Fire the guy.
He doesn't deserve to have a job if he's scared.
Like, I told a joke 20 years ago and now people are offended by it.
adam crigler
But it's not even about Jimmy Fallon.
It's him letting them win now.
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
So they're like, all Karens around the world are rejoicing right now.
We cancelled another one, everyone!
unidentified
Woo!
tim pool
That's actually, it's a funny thing that he had to apologize.
The New York Times wrote, Barry Weiss from the New York Times wrote an opinion piece in an interview with Joe Rogan about his sale to Spotify.
And he basically said, it was alluding to the fact that you can't be canceled if you work for yourself.
Like, if you said something offensive, what are they going to do?
Are they going to call me?
Be like, Tim, Adam said something offensive.
I know he was sitting right next to me.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
What are you going to do about it?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And so for him, Joe doesn't got to apologize for anything.
It's his show.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
It's his, it's his room.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
But Jimmy works for somebody else.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
And they're scared.
adam crigler
He wasn't apologizing.
They probably called him up and said, apologize right now.
tim pool
They probably have control of his Twitter account.
adam crigler
Yeah, maybe.
tim pool
Jimmy wakes up one day and looks at his phone and is like, oh, I apologize.
He falls back to sleep.
adam crigler
Nah, I don't think it's that bad.
I think he did it.
I think he apologized.
tim pool
Yeah, for sure.
adam crigler
Because I read his... I mean, you can just see his personality.
He wants to make everybody happy.
This is the stupidest thing ever.
That's his personality.
You can tell.
Every time I've ever seen him talk about anyone, talk to anyone, he just wants to make everyone happy.
So if anyone's offended by something he's done, that's why he's apologizing.
I see it.
I get it, Jimmy.
You're a nice guy.
That's what it is.
tim pool
But these people don't actually care.
adam crigler
I know.
tim pool
I don't care.
adam crigler
But Jimmy does and that's why he's apologizing but you're also giving him a victory and making it worse for the future of when they come after the next comedian who is doing something less offensive.
tim pool
It kind of reminds me of a kid like walking into the mom's room and going, mom, mom, mom.
Mom!
And then when she's finally like, what do you want?
He goes, yeah!
And he runs away.
Yeah, like the Stewie thing.
She finally goes, what?
What do you want?
He goes, yeah!
And he just runs off.
Like he didn't want anything.
He just wanted to get a rise out of you.
So here's Jimmy like, I'm so sorry I did this.
I made a joke 20 years ago.
It was offensive.
And these people are just sitting there like, oh, who do we attack now?
It's like, I don't know.
You find somebody.
All right.
How about Robert Downey Jr.?
Been there, done that.
adam crigler
We tried.
It didn't work.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
We'll try every couple of years, but it never works.
tim pool
It's confusing to them.
They're like, is that a target?
Well, no, not Robert.
We like Robert.
lydia smith
Why is that?
adam crigler
No, that's not even it.
It's not even because people like Robert Downey Jr.
It's because he was, every single tweet, I mean, a lot of people, a lot of tweets were from black folks that were saying, we know it was making fun of white people in blackface.
unidentified
Right, right.
adam crigler
That was the joke.
That's what the movie was about.
No, all of them were like, I never, I didn't see one, you know, African American person that was upset about it.
They were all, everyone was making fun of this young white girl.
It was, she was so like, it was vividly like a, I don't know, 20 year old white person that was like pissed off.
It's like, why are you mad?
Who are you mad for?
Oh, your mother's a Karen, right?
lydia smith
Oh yeah.
adam crigler
You've inherited the cat.
And that's another issue is they're teaching their kids.
You see that video of the girl crying because someone flipped her off?
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
And her mom stormed out to go find the person.
It was like, whoa.
That's what you're teaching your kids.
tim pool
You know what's kind of paradoxical and kind of ironic is that a lot of these SJWs are upper-class white people and they're also the Karens.
It's all Karening.
They actually prove themselves kind of right about white people.
You know what I mean?
adam crigler
You're right.
tim pool
It's true.
It's you.
adam crigler
It's terrible because it's like, as a white person, I'm offended at Karens.
Karens offend me.
They offend me.
They're racist.
They're like prolonging racism in this world.
It's like, stop!
tim pool
That's what I was saying about this episode.
We'll jump over to the Karens of New York.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So here's what I was saying about this.
For those that aren't familiar, I'll give you the quick gist of the story.
Amy Cooper, walking her dog.
Chris Cooper, no relation, it's funny how that happens, sees her and he's like, hey, your dog needs to be on a leash.
And she's like, my dog doesn't need to be on a leash because he's running around.
And he goes, nah, the sign says your dog's got to be on a leash.
And then she's like, well, my dog needs exercise.
He says, why don't you go across the street or whatever?
She says, because it's dangerous.
So then he was like, if you're not gonna listen, then you're not gonna like what I'm gonna do and I'm gonna do it anyway.
Reaches into his pocket and she starts, and then calling the dog over and she freaks out and she grabs the dog and
she's like, Stop, don't you touch my dog.
Dude starts filming.
Lady goes nuts, starts saying a bunch of really dumb crazy things and calls the police.
Karening ensues more karening.
adam crigler
It's truly two Karens in the wild.
tim pool
I think the lady was much worse than the guy.
The guy was like your typical nerdy Jerry kind, where he was like, excuse me, your dog needs to be on a leash.
adam crigler
Yep, that's a good point.
tim pool
And then she was like, don't you tell me what to do!
adam crigler
I'm Karen!
tim pool
Karen doesn't need to do this!
And he goes like, actually.
That's what it was.
That's exactly it.
And it was like an unstoppable force colliding with an immovable object.
But the thing about the story is that it has nothing to do with race.
And then all of a sudden the whole thing became about race.
Why?
Because the lady was white and the dude was black.
But you can't even tell that from the video.
adam crigler
But that's what I'm talking about.
What does him being black have anything to do with this video?
It's a woman and a man, both Karens, Karening at each other.
Who cares?
Nothing happened.
I don't care.
tim pool
It was a nationwide trend, man.
adam crigler
Why?
What is going on?
Why is this news?
Why do people care?
And I lived in New York.
I saw this all the time.
tim pool
I was part of it.
adam crigler
People yelled at me all the time for random things.
tim pool
Skateboarding.
adam crigler
You know, one time a cab cut me off and I was like, what up?
And he stopped, got out of his car and started yelling at me.
And I'm like, what?
Okay, I didn't do anything wrong.
I was in the bike lane.
tim pool
You gotta train with the Karens, man.
adam crigler
All the time.
That's true.
I was hardened in the Forge of New York because there's so many Karens there.
tim pool
What you have to do, when that happens next time, when the guy gets out of the car, immediately take your phone, press record and hold it up.
Make sure it's vertical.
Don't do horizontal video.
Make sure it's vertical filming.
And the first thing you need to say is, why did you just call me insert slur?
Because you didn't actually film them saying the slur.
You have to open the video and be like, you just called me a slur.
And apparently that's become good enough.
So, like, there was another video where, like, these two FedEx drivers are just yelling at this white dude who's filming them.
Because apparently they drove on his lawn to deliver a package.
He comes out yelling at them.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
And they get into a fight.
The dudes post the video online.
They made, like, $85,000 of a GoFundMe.
They got fired for this.
And then all these people are saying it was, like, a racial justice issue.
Let me tell you, man.
If a man and a woman Can't clash over Karenism without it being a race issue?
Then I don't think you can get rid of racism.
Because think about it.
Let's be real, we'll drop the jokes.
This story about Amy Cooper, she loses her job over this.
She surrendered the dog to a shelter.
adam crigler
Oh, that's sad.
tim pool
So the argument was that she was dragging the dog by the collar and clearly not taking care of it while this was going on.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
I haven't seen the video.
I don't want to watch the video.
I was told what happened.
tim pool
I don't like this lady.
unidentified
But listen.
tim pool
I feel bad for the dog.
adam crigler
That's all.
I just feel bad for the dog.
He had to witness that.
He's probably thinking, these stupid humans.
tim pool
You know, actually, it's you have a Jerry and a Karen and they clash and it doesn't matter what their race is.
adam crigler
Exactly.
It doesn't.
tim pool
But to everyone else online, they're looking for it, and they make sure that's what it's about.
And so literally, the company fired the lady, specifically saying something like, what is it?
What did they say?
Yeah, we do not tolerate racism of any kind at Franklin Templeton.
What racism?
African-American man.
adam crigler
called the police and said there's a black man who's getting... African-American man.
Oh, is that what she said? Or something like that, right?
She basically, she straight up like said like, oh man, there's this man, like an African-American
man. It's like...
tim pool
Well, the first thing she said was, I'm going to tell the police an African-American man
adam crigler
is threatening me. She said that on his video.
tim pool
On his video.
adam crigler
Before she called him.
tim pool
Yes.
adam crigler
And so, right away, that does draw some like, hmm... It's like, oh, sure, because you know they'll probably, what, come faster or something?
Or come to your aid quicker?
tim pool
Or like she was trying to scare the guy.
Yeah.
Like he was scared of the cops.
adam crigler
Oh, you think you can do what you want with my dog?
Alright, well I'm gonna use my caring skills on you.
tim pool
So here's what I'm saying.
adam crigler
Come on.
tim pool
I'll give up that absolutely, right?
When she said that, I was like, oh no, you did not just say that, dude.
Come on, we know what, like, I'll tell you what I think when she tries to say that.
However, people in heated moments say stupid things.
True.
And the issue I'm talking about in terms of racism is, did she tell him to F off, in a matter of speaking, because of his race?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Because they're both Karens, and they're both like, I'm gonna tell you what you have to do.
You can't tell me what to do.
I'm gonna tell you what to do.
adam crigler
Are you trying to Karen me?
Oh, I'm gonna Karen you.
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
Right.
That's what it was.
tim pool
You think you can Karen me?
I'll call the police.
And they start fighting with each other.
And so, there's been a bunch of instances.
Notably the FedEx truck.
That really struck a chord with me.
It's a video of a black dude and a white dude and they're yelling at each other.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And that's basically it.
And the white dude's like, I'm gonna call the cops.
And he was like, you do what you want.
They know me.
And he's like, you got my information.
He gets in the car to leave.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
These guys use this footage and they raised on GoFundMe like 80 something thousand dollars.
Like it was like 83.9 last time I checked.
adam crigler
But for what?
What was the reason?
What did they say?
tim pool
They got fired.
adam crigler
Because they got fired over it?
tim pool
They got fired for confronting this guy.
So then the one guy who was filming, who wasn't the driver, publishes the video.
And everybody's acting like it's a racism thing.
And I'm like, what do you mean?
It's like two guys were arguing because a guy drove on his lawn.
adam crigler
It has nothing to do with that!
Right, if they were white and they ran over his lawn, he'd probably still be pissed and probably yell at him the same.
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
I mean, who knows?
I don't know.
I do think that racism's going down in the world.
Well, at least in my circles and my community that I know of people, it's like... Nah, it's going up, man.
I don't know if I agree.
I mean, it feels like the younger generations, those that don't have Karen parents, you know, tend to be cool with most people.
Like, everyone that I meet seems to be chill, and race is the last thing that we're discussing, that we're talking about.
tim pool
Under Obama?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
Polls showed that people thought race relations were getting worse.
And so you can have a discussion about what racism is, and you can argue whether it's Obama's fault or the fact that Obama was the first black president and people are racist.
But when people start acting that way and saying race relations are getting worse, that means people are seeing this more and it's becoming conscious in their minds.
adam crigler
And here we are, and I wonder why.
Here's an article from New York, what is it, cbslocal.com that says, oh here, let me scroll up.
What does it say here?
White woman on video calling 911 on black man.
Really?
Yeah.
And how, how is, how are people supposed to, like, it's not, what are they, what are they connecting though?
It's, they're, they're, the news is now perpetuating racism.
That's what I'm seeing right here.
tim pool
Think about what the story would be.
adam crigler
A woman in Central Park fears a man
Attacking her dog, you know that right that you know, you can paint whatever pics you want in your head
tim pool
They're making it about race framing exactly So actually yeah, let's be fair to the a lot of people are
defending this woman Actually, I think she was over the line. However, the dude
who told her to What like put the dog on the leash?
released this video clip on Facebook where he said that he was trying to coax her dog away from her and
And he had treats in his pocket for dogs.
adam crigler
Weird.
tim pool
It is weird.
adam crigler
That's weird.
tim pool
And the other thing is, I don't know what you've got in your pocket, bro.
adam crigler
Exactly.
She didn't either.
tim pool
And we don't know what happened before this video, so to be fair, here's what people are arguing.
Imagine you're a 120-pound, 41-year-old woman in a park.
No one's around you.
Some six-foot-one or whatever dude shows up, and he starts giving you the business.
And then all of a sudden, when you're like, I don't know, you can't tell me what to do, he says, come here, come here, come here to your dog.
And then he reaches into his pocket.
And what are you going to think?
So a lot of people are defending her in that regard, saying she probably freaked out, her general's probably going crazy.
adam crigler
That totally makes sense.
It makes sense.
tim pool
And she said a bunch of stupid things in the heat of the moment, like while her heart was going crazy.
She's holding the dog and trying to stop the dog from running because she's freaking out.
Look man, she went up to the dude.
She's like freaking.
She's getting up to him.
She's like waving her hand.
Stop filming me!
Ah!
Yelling and I'm gonna call the police and say an African.
So I do not.
I'm not gonna defend this lady.
You know what I mean?
But I understand what people are saying when you get two Karens.
But back to the news issue about it.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
What would the news be?
adam crigler
It's not news.
That's the thing.
That's my argument.
I don't care about this little tussle in the bramble of Central Park.
It's a big nothing.
tim pool
When I was first moving to New York City, I had people ask me why.
This was back in 2011.
It was actually after Occupy, and I was going to stick around and stay in New York.
And I said, listen, man, you could fart in New York City.
It becomes national news.
And I was talking specifically about a protest that happened in Brooklyn of 60 people.
60 people protesting in New York City, in Brooklyn.
Nothing happened.
And it was a nationwide, it was a worldwide trend.
It was all over Twitter.
Every journalist was talking about it.
Meanwhile, I was up in Canada, and there were like a thousand kids running from cops who were throwing flashbangs and, you know, other kind of, like, riot weapons.
Beating people, arresting people.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And it was like some big protest, I forgot what it's called.
And I was like, I think it was called Manifancur or something like that.
Manifestation or something.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And I was like, this is crazy, like, all these people are protesting, they're going nuts, and it's like really close to New York.
Nobody cared.
Nobody cared at the same time because people in New York were protesting.
Tiny group.
And that's what happens.
People are just obsessed.
It's like, it's like... What's that show where they put everybody in, like, lock everybody in the house and make them yell at each other?
lydia smith
Big Brother?
tim pool
Big Brother, is that what it is?
lydia smith
I think so.
tim pool
I don't know, there's like eight of them.
That's what it is.
adam crigler
There's all sorts of those shows.
This is why we need... Reality TV.
tim pool
This is maybe why we need, you know, the Real Housewives of New Jersey.
Maybe they're saving us.
They're protecting us by giving us the fake drama so that we don't need this stupidity.
adam crigler
No, the sad thing is, I've been to Europe a lot, and a lot of people think that's what Americans are like.
That's the issue with those reality shows.
They're like, I've seen reality shows of America, like, I know you, you're American.
I've seen this show and this show and this show, so I know all about you because you're American.
Oh my gosh.
It's not even worth any words or breath from me to try to explain to you that you're so wrong.
tim pool
Have you ever tried explaining to a European, like, the size of the country?
adam crigler
The United States?
All the time.
tim pool
They're like confused by it, right?
adam crigler
All the time.
tim pool
Because I love telling these stories, like when I've had European friends.
There's a story where someone hit me up recently, and they were French I think, and they were like, they're like, hey Tim, I'm gonna be in Los Angeles, you know, next month.
I thought it would be really great if I could drive up or swing by or if you could come into town.
And I was like, what?
adam crigler
You were living in New York at the time, right?
tim pool
No, this was, I was here.
adam crigler
Oh, you were here.
Oh, okay, okay.
tim pool
And I responded with like, I'm not going to be anywhere near Los Angeles.
And he's like, maybe I could drive up.
And I was like, bro, that's like 40 hours.
What is it?
40?
That's like 41 hours.
lydia smith
Yeah, it's a lot.
tim pool
He was like, wait, what?
Really?
I'm like, yeah, you're not driving that, dude.
It's like six hour flight.
Because, the way I think it works is that, because, you know, France is the size of Texas, they think the United States is a country, France is a country, therefore, the United States must be the size of Texas.
adam crigler
Yeah, their perspective of what a country's size is, is France.
tim pool
I had somebody ask, this was years and years ago, they said they were, probably France or German, wanted to come down, and they said, we're going to be in New York, would you want to take a trip to Texas while we're in town?
And I was like, I was like, I was like, I don't know if I can muster that much, you know, time and energy for a trip to Texas.
And they were like, I was thinking we just got on for the day or something.
And I was like, what?
Yeah, it's a it's like, what is it from New York to Texas?
What is that, like 30 hours?
lydia smith
Yeah.
No.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
I would say that depends on where you're going.
18 hours, depending on what.
tim pool
Yeah.
Like they don't get it.
They really don't.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But hey, man, at least we have our good name being defended by the likes of.
Well, actually, I can't name any of these women, so that's probably a good thing.
I can name the one famous Jersey Shore chick, but I'm not going to.
I'm going to choose not.
I'm going to opt out.
adam crigler
Good.
Good for you.
I'm proud of you, Tim.
tim pool
So, I want to show you one more tweet in regards to this that I think is a bit hyperbolic.
It's from Celine D. Ryan, who is a journalist, I think.
Oh, she's with Campus Reform.
She takes the post from Christian Cooper.
This is the guy who Karen Vallee, like, put your dog on a leash.
Mm-hmm.
And he explains how he was trying to like coax her dog away from her and like give it treats.
adam crigler
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
So this is what Celine wrote.
Hey lady, shut your kid up. Shouting is against the rules here.
He's been in lockdown. He needs to get energy out.
Playground over there. It's dangerous over there. Fine.
If you do what you want, I'll do what I want, but you're not gonna like it.
Come here kid, I have candy.
Like.
adam crigler
So the dog is her kid?
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
That's why I think it's like, it's an obvious exaggeration, but you can see the point she's trying to make.
adam crigler
It's really weird that he had dog treats on him.
tim pool
That is weird, man.
adam crigler
Why are you carrying around dog treats in your pocket?
tim pool
Look what he said.
I pull out the dog treats I carry for just such intransigence.
lydia smith
Okay.
I have a theory.
You ready for my theory?
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Okay.
So my theory is that he carries dog treats because he's a birdwatcher and he really doesn't want dogs bothering his birdwatching area.
adam crigler
Where do you get birdwatching out of this?
lydia smith
Well, that's what he was.
That's what he is.
adam crigler
He's a birdwatcher.
He admits he's a birdwatcher.
tim pool
Yeah, he's like an Ivy League graduate.
lydia smith
I think that's why he was there.
adam crigler
Okay.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
So he's actually a birdwatcher.
Okay, go on.
unidentified
Continue.
lydia smith
Yeah, so my theory continues.
He wanted dogs away from like his birdwatching spots and he would use treats to kind of lure them from one place to another.
And he said, I think he mentioned that people would let their dogs go off the leash all the time.
So I'm guessing that's what he means by intransigence, which is quite a 50 cent word.
adam crigler
He's such a Karen.
Listen, listen, Christian Cooper.
Next time you meet a Karen in the wild like that, you should just do what Karens do and, and act like, tell them you're going to call the police because then she'll call the police and you'll both be on the phone with the police and nothing will happen.
Cause the police will be like, you guys stop.
lydia smith
Just leave.
tim pool
You see that, uh, the final scene of Harry Potter when he's fighting Voldemort.
adam crigler
Never seen Harry Potter.
tim pool
And they're like, they're so, so Harry and Voldemort.
adam crigler
I don't want to know this. You're ruining it for me. I'll watch it one day.
Are you seriously going to watch it? I'm dead serious.
Alright. When I have kids I'm going to read it to them.
tim pool
We won't ruin it for Adam. I'm talking about the movie.
adam crigler
I'm sure the same kind of thing happened in the book.
No, it didn't. Did you read the books?
tim pool
Yeah. Oh, okay.
The movies were embellished. There's some weird stuff in there.
You're like, that seems weird.
I'm not gonna go off on a Harry Potter fan rant.
Anyway, it's like Goku and Vegeta.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And they're both doing an energy blast.
Then Goku wins.
That's what it was.
He Karen'd her.
She Karen'd back.
He won in the end.
He out Karen'd her.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
But you know what it was?
His Karen technique was masterful.
He feigned the victim and the victim always wins.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
That's true.
tim pool
He started it.
She got belligerent.
So he went, oh heavens me, I'm a victim.
And boom, you win.
It's like, it reminds me of I mentioned this before, you ever see the movie Next?
adam crigler
Yes, I watched it actually after that last time you told me about it.
tim pool
The scene where he purposefully gets punched so that the woman's like, oh no!
adam crigler
Yeah, but he tries it like 20 different times.
Right, right, right.
tim pool
Okay, so to give the context, it's a movie about Nicolas Cage, he can see the future.
And he keeps trying to figure out how to pick up this chick, but every time he looks into the future, she tells him to buzz off.
This dude shows up, starts pushing her around, so he thinks, like, I'll take care of this guy.
And then he gets into a fight with him and clearly wins because he can see the future, but then she's like, you jerk!
And she yells at him.
So then he tries the one last time, like looking to the future, and he lets the guy punch him in the face, and then she calls her ex-boyfriend guy a jerk, and then goes, oh you poor, oh you baby, that's what it is.
You start the fight, but then you let them hit you, and then you look like a victim on camera.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
That's actually really clever if you think about it.
You could go to Central Park, walk up to somebody, and punch him in the gut.
Then pull up your camera and be like, please man, I don't care if you're a racist.
Leave me alone.
Just don't say that to me again.
And the guy will be like, what?
And they'll start hitting you.
Now you've got a video of a guy attacking you, and then you'll say all these lies, and the camera just doesn't attack you.
lydia smith
It's like the worst thing.
adam crigler
It's a really terrible premise that you're giving all the care.
Not that there's care in it.
Listen to us.
tim pool
It's literally what's going on.
adam crigler
No, I know.
But that's happening.
And it's frightening.
And I don't want anyone to get any ideas.
lydia smith
Don't get any ideas, people.
tim pool
Wait, wow.
adam crigler
How are we here right now?
tim pool
That's some top-tier Karen-ing, bro.
adam crigler
Karen's out Karen-ing each other.
Wow.
lydia smith
It's wonderful.
tim pool
Man, I feel like the word Karen is played out at this point.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
It's like...
adam crigler
But it fits so well.
tim pool
It does.
adam crigler
Didn't someone call it out for being, like, racist or something?
tim pool
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
adam crigler
A bunch of middle-aged white women.
I believe it was a Cairn Baron who said that.
tim pool
A Cairn Baron?
Well, the Cairn Barons, what I was saying with that was a reference to big corporations who know they're using Cairn energy for personal gain.
So they're like, they have cages full of Cairns, and they know they can unleash them.
lydia smith
Like a cattle baron?
tim pool
Right.
Ah, okay.
lydia smith
It's like a Cairn Queen.
tim pool
Right.
And so they're sitting there on Karen back, you know, watching the Karens graze.
And then they're like, you know, they whip the Karens into action and have them go do their bidding and Karen up a storm, sharing articles.
All the Karens are running full speed stampeding and they're holding up articles that say like Orange Man Bad.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then he's like, it spreads the paper around and they're giving it to people and like demanding they read it.
That's that's that's that's the mission of the Karen Baron, you know?
lydia smith
Quite the strategy.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
Well, how about we talk about some real news?
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
adam crigler
This is terrible, man.
tim pool
Yeah, but we gotta talk about it.
adam crigler
Yeah, let's talk about it.
tim pool
I can't breathe.
Man dies after pleading with officer attempting to detain him in Minneapolis.
adam crigler
It sounds awfully familiar.
This happened.
This happens.
tim pool
But there's a lot we gotta break through in talking about this story, for sure.
What we saw was horrible, completely and utterly messed up.
Mayor Jacob Frey said a video of the incident.
I believe what I saw, and what I saw was wrong at every level.
This story, uh, I'm not gonna show the video because I don't think we can.
But, uh, to put it simply, we'll just give you the quick gist.
adam crigler
You know, and I was just saying, I wanted to believe that racism was dying out.
You know, that I don't see it, I have a lot of friends that are of all ethnicities, and then I see this.
And it's like, come on.
tim pool
Why is this racism?
adam crigler
Because it's a bunch of white cops kneeling on his neck because they're probably afraid because of the mainstream media putting it out there that oh it's black men are bad black men are bad it's like and and that's what they go for.
tim pool
That's a big leap, man.
adam crigler
You know what?
It comes from being in New York.
Being in New York, the New York City Police Force is the reason that I'm making this jump.
Because I've seen it in New York so many times.
I lived in New York for 16 years.
I lived there for a long time.
Non-stop were these stories showing up.
All the time.
All the time.
And I never saw a white kid, a white guy getting killed, getting thrown in prison for no reason.
tim pool
That's, oof, man, there's a lot to dig through on that one.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah, because here's what, I mean, but this is just my first initial reaction of seeing this.
It's like, okay, and they don't, they're not going to jail?
They just got fired.
tim pool
Yeah, so this guy's getting arrested.
Here's the gist.
This guy was, there was a report of a forgery in progress.
This guy's apparently sitting in his car.
Cops come.
adam crigler
A forgery?
tim pool
A forgery.
adam crigler
Like making a fake ID or something?
tim pool
I guess.
So they pull the guy out, and apparently, according to them, I don't know if this is true.
They said he was resisting.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So they put him on the ground.
A guy kneels on his neck.
The guy starts saying, help, I can't breathe.
Please, please, please, I can't breathe.
My stomach hurts.
My neck hurts.
I can't breathe.
And people are saying like, yo, get off him, get off him.
Dude kneels on him for eight minutes.
Dude on the ground dies.
adam crigler
And then look at this.
Look at this headline, though.
Check this out.
Just a regular man.
They don't include black men because that would make them look bad.
And that's exactly what I'm talking about.
They can't do that because it's just a regular man now that died.
We don't want people to spread it around that it was a black man that had died.
tim pool
That's a really good point.
I don't know if I agree with the reasoning, but you brought up something really, really important.
adam crigler
Look at it.
tim pool
Why did the other story say white woman?
adam crigler
Some nothing story.
tim pool
Well, so let's give context for those that didn't hear earlier.
We're talking about the woman in Central Park.
It's a white woman and a black man arguing about a dog on a leash.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And the news reports are like, a white woman did this to a black man or whatever.
Now we have an actual story about white cops and a dude and a black man dying.
adam crigler
Here, let's show them.
Check this out.
Here's what we were talking about.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
adam crigler
But it's very clear.
White woman on video calling 911 on a black man.
It's like, okay, wow.
All right, really lay it out there.
I don't know which one it is.
What, this one?
And then here we go.
The man actually dies, but they're trying to admit that he was black.
Because that would make it more obvious.
I mean, they're obviously trying to hide that now.
They're trying to downplay it.
Like, whoa, the cops got fired.
It was just a man that died.
Men die all the time.
It's a regular thing.
Yeah.
And they're trying to avoid it.
tim pool
Let's go back to the New York thing, because this is important for a lot of people who don't live in New York.
is racist absolutely racist bro let me tell you man at the new york bloomberg is on camera recorded where he was like i'm not even gonna repeat what the dude said he was like well we have to send the police here because those are the people who do it and it's obviously these people and it's like yeah it was about it was about stop and frisk right and basically he was pinpointing a certain minority group you know what i can't stand openly and admittingly Terrible.
But it's an older generation, and that's kind of what I was alluding to before.
It is dying out.
Bloomberg, Stopp and Fristuff are the people who can't see past race.
So both of them just make everything worse.
We're trying to actually address these problems.
adam crigler
But it's an older generation and that's kind of what I was alluding to before.
It is dying out.
It is a dying breed in this world.
tim pool
The SJWs are on the rise.
All of this talk of race and everything has been exploding.
adam crigler
No, no, no, no, no.
It's because they're all using the internet now.
So they all have a voice and they're screaming at the top of their lungs on the internet.
It's because they all have access.
tim pool
Instances of the words like critical race theory, diversity and inclusion, social justice, racism, bigotry are up like 10,000% in the past 10 years.
In the New York Times.
adam crigler
Because they know those angry women are going to be sharing it.
It's not the people like you and me that aren't going to be sharing this stuff.
We're going to be ragging on it, being like, look at this crap.
tim pool
No, but this is exactly what people share.
So there was at one point a top ranked, a ranked 400 global top site that only did police brutality.
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
Because they wanted the clicks.
tim pool
Right, because people do share it.
They go, oh look at this, oh look at this.
And so this is what I wanted to get to, right?
I, the way I see it is, I'm not, I'm not going to play the racism game in this instance.
It's an individual.
And if we approach all of these stories from the perspective of an individual who had basically like every single one of their God-given rights violated in this regard, even if you're a criminal man, like to have someone just reckless disregard for your health, pinning you down so you can't breathe.
Like, first, let me say, if you're going to, if you're going to take somebody into custody, you are now responsible for their wellbeing.
adam crigler
A hundred percent.
tim pool
If you put them in a car and you take them for a nickel, you know what a nickel ride is?
adam crigler
I've heard of it, I don't know the exact definition.
tim pool
They throw people in the back of wagons or cars with no seatbelt and then shake the car around.
adam crigler
That's messed up.
tim pool
It's called a nickel ride.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And so that was actually what happened in Baltimore.
They think maybe what happened in Baltimore, I'm sure there's been updates, and it killed the guy.
He slid forward, hit his head, busted his neck or something.
In this instance, what I would say to people who are like social justice activists, I understand your concerns about race and all that stuff.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
But hold on to that, and let's talk about this man who had his life taken from him.
adam crigler
Yeah, race.
Okay, that's good.
That's a good point.
Race aside.
tim pool
And hold on to it.
Hold on to it.
I'm not saying get rid of it.
I'm just saying put a tack in that.
Talk about this man who has just killed an innocent, I don't want to say innocent, but absolutely not deserving of death.
Right.
adam crigler
100%.
Absolutely.
tim pool
He may have, no, no, no, no.
I'm walking that back.
Innocent until proven guilty.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
This man, as far as I can tell, was innocent and he was killed.
We'll stop right there.
unidentified
Yes.
Right.
And they are.
tim pool
the conservatives. I want to look at this man ignore the the woke arguments in the anger and talk about
the violation of our civil rights yes. If you commit a crime the cops can't just kill you right straight
up and they are and they have been. At least absolutely and and listen. My arguments people on the right
would be. I know that it affects people of all My argument to people on the left, I understand.
I've seen the cops in New York target the black neighborhoods purposefully in Bloomberg.
It like goes on record for it.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
So what we need to do is make sure that every single individual has their civil liberties guarded, protected.
The Constitution is upheld because that you target the roots, the grassroots of these.
And then as you move up, things improve.
So the easiest way to explain it to everybody is like, listen, man, if you have 10 people, And there are ten people who were innocent and killed.
Or, like, it was, you know, maybe in the process of a crime, never proven guilty, and the cop did something, it killed them.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Let's say eight of them are black, and one's Latino and one's white.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And so, if we just focus on each individual in each instance, and you rectify those injustices and hold those people accountable, you will disproportionately help the people, the oppressed minorities, but you will also make sure you won't ignore the injustices that target other races as well.
It's basically like, I look at it like grass roots.
You know, if you're only mowing the top of the lawn, the problem's never getting, you know, pulled up.
If you're only cutting the weed, you're leaving the roots there, it just grows back.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And so, what I see happening with stories like this is, you know, what I look at, I'm like, here's how we solve this, man.
Innocent until proven guilty, the police have to be responsible for this man's death.
adam crigler
Absolutely, 100%.
They killed him.
tim pool
I don't want to make it an issue where people are going to argue with each other about racial justice, inequities, or whatever.
It's like, I think we all agree this guy's civil liberties were violated.
adam crigler
Yeah, and especially it was a non-violent crime.
Forgery?
tim pool
So here's the challenge.
They said he was resisting, right?
adam crigler
Right, they said he was resisting and they tried for 10 minutes to get him in the car.
So then they sat for 10 more minutes laying out on him.
Instead of just getting a bunch of them and putting them in the back of the car.
After that 10 minutes of fighting, sure, tag him with resisting arrest.
tim pool
I don't know what you do, you know?
I could argue they could have tased him or something, but then sometimes tasers kill people.
And it's like... I guess the instance here for me is, first and foremost, I'll always stress, like, I don't know what happened before this video.
adam crigler
I agree.
tim pool
That's why I'm very cautious.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, for all we know, this guy was like, you know, the Hulk, and like, throwing cars in the air and jumping, and this, you know, poor cop knocked him down.
For all we know, this guy was got his hands up and not resisting, and the cop pushed him around and bashed him up.
I have no idea.
lydia smith
So we actually have a little bit of an update.
So I just saw, scroll past me real fast, there was a video that was released the earlier part of this.
It looks like he wasn't resisting arrest at all.
And the restaurant owner from across the street was like, I didn't see anything.
It didn't look like he was fighting back at all.
I really don't know what happened there.
This is apparently a really quiet exchange if he was hulking out.
So I don't know.
tim pool
So you don't think he was resisting?
Is that what you're saying?
lydia smith
That's what they said.
tim pool
It didn't sound like that.
I believe it.
adam crigler
I believe it too.
tim pool
It's weird for me how it's like you have social justice activists on the left who are constantly complaining about the police and there's like a weird inversion.
They hate the police but they want big government.
And then you see, like, the small government people and advocates defending the police more often.
And, look, I get it.
There's subtleties within these arguments.
At a macro level, to me, I'm kind of like, it doesn't always make sense.
I'm sure there's arguments you can put forward about, you know, loyalty, authority, you know, community and things like that.
But I'm a small government, freedom, liberty-minded person.
I'm much more about being on a farm with a bunch of hippies eating watermelon.
And if some dude comes in under the authority of the state and starts telling me what I gotta do, I'm gonna be like, Constitution buddy, read it.
Read it and weep.
I don't care what your political orientation is.
I don't care.
All I care, I want people to have their civil liberties.
Straight up.
So look, the story here, and I think the big difference between this and things like Michael Brown and Freddie Gray, Trayvon Martin.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
We got a video of a guy who's been on the ground.
adam crigler
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And it's like, you know, if that cop just asked for help and then took his head off his knee off the guy's neck.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
The guy might not have died.
Yeah.
When you when you when you talk about, you know, the arguments for these other individuals, we just don't know.
And that's one of the biggest problems.
We'll never know because the people who were there died.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
adam crigler
It's like, you didn't need to put your knee on his neck.
tim pool
And I've been there.
adam crigler
You could have sat on his hands.
At the lower of, you know, he's obviously handcuffed.
tim pool
That's a technique they do.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Knee on the neck.
adam crigler
So, I've had... It obviously kills people, so they should not make that a technique that they use.
tim pool
Like the, you know, you ever see the Eric Garner video?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
The dude was selling cigarettes, so the guy comes up and puts him in a chugger or whatever.
adam crigler
Terrible.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You know what, man?
adam crigler
It's ridiculous.
tim pool
It is a very, very dangerous balance between security and liberties.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Because I was talking about this earlier.
You know how they tried doing bail reform in New York?
adam crigler
I did hear about that, yeah.
tim pool
The general idea was... They did do bail reform, didn't they?
unidentified
They did.
tim pool
It was a disaster.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
It was a huge mess.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And I'm like, a lot of conservatives, as well as me, I'm like, I'm not surprised.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
But I agree with the sentiment.
The idea is, if you're innocent until proven guilty, And a cop arrests you.
You can't lock someone up until they can pay a bill.
Like, that's messed up.
Because what ends up happening is, you have innocent people who get wrongfully arrested, and then they're like, your bail is set at $1,000, nobody has it, so they go to jail for a couple weeks or whatever until they can get a trial, or however long.
It takes sometimes months, sometimes longer.
Now they lost their job.
Now they've been evicted.
Landlord says, don't know where they went, they're gone.
And then that's it.
Their life is completely destroyed.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And even if they get, you know, get out and the trial says, oh, we're so sorry you got arrested.
It's too bad.
adam crigler
Turns out you were innocent.
Sorry.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
So the idea in New York was, you gotta release them.
Then the problem was, they actually had people they knew were committing these crimes.
Like, they'd watch them do it, and they'd turn them loose!
And then, like, they would commit the crimes again.
So it's like...
Man, this is why I would never want to be involved in politics.
Like, that's legit.
You know what I think the issue is for big cities?
They're big cities.
adam crigler
That's it.
tim pool
Because think about what life would be like if you lived in the middle of nowhere and you had your Second Amendment rights and the police department was erring on the side of freedom.
So they were like, if you get caught committing a crime, innocent until proven guilty, we're gonna let you go.
Then the neighbors would be like, alright, but I'm strapped at home, so if you try to mess with my property or come and mess with my family, we're gonna defend ourselves.
Then people have the ability to protect themselves.
The problem with New York is, you don't.
So when these criminals get released and then go rob people again, it's just like, I guess I'll just stand here and have this criminal wreak havoc.
You can't have this combination of things.
Where you say, we're gonna pull the liberty of the criminals, but restrict the liberty of the private citizens to protect themselves.
That's the big problem.
adam crigler
and look at this it even says right here video of the incident shows that a white minneapolis police officer had a black man pinned to the ground with his knee so that so they switch it on you they're like all right well now we'll give you the facts now we're now we're gonna give you the nitty-gritty of this and it says the man looked like already dead before an ambulance got there so it's like He even said in the video, like, I can't breathe.
I can't breathe.
So light up on his neck a little bit.
Like, what are you doing wrong?
I can't believe they just got fired and that's it.
Cops need to be held accountable if they're gonna kill people.
It's murder.
tim pool
I think cops should be held to a higher standard.
adam crigler
Even better.
They need to be held to a higher standard, exactly.
tim pool
For two reasons.
They have the authority of the state, which arms them.
adam crigler
And that is not a license to kill.
lydia smith
No, absolutely not.
adam crigler
And that's how they act.
tim pool
There's a couple reasons why I think they should be held to a higher standard.
First and foremost, in many of these jurisdictions, I do not like the idea that the government has granted the authority to bear arms and the people aren't.
That to me is shockingly insane.
Indeed.
The only people who are allowed to be armed are agents of the state or whatever.
Nah, I'm not all about that.
The other issue is, they're a representation of upholding the law.
Which means, if they break the law, well, shouldn't they?
Like, how are we going to set an example to everyone else that the law matters if the people who are supposed to uphold it often get a slap on the wrist or they walk?
Like, therein lies a real problem.
I do recognize the challenge, right?
One of the big challenges is that you have cops who know that their job is dangerous and are tasked with going and doing dangerous things, and so they might panic or be scared.
But I was talking to this NYPD detective, and he was like, man, the most dangerous thing in the world is a scared person holding a gun.
Like, obviously, it's an exaggeration.
The most dangerous person in the world is probably Kim Jong-un, scared, and put his finger over the nuke button, but you get the point.
adam crigler
It's just a really, really big gun that does a lot of devastating damage.
It's the same thing, though.
tim pool
If you've got cops who are not trained properly, not mentally prepared for this, and they're scared, don't put a gun in their hand, you know what I mean?
That's true.
It's funny to me that there are... I would actually be willing to bet that, and I think this might be why 2A is so strong in conservative communities, I'd be willing to bet the average conservative in a rural district is better trained with a firearm than your average NYPD cop.
adam crigler
Probably.
tim pool
Like remember that story about the NYPD cops firing randomly and like hitting a bunch of innocent people like eight people or something That's that's what you get in these cities man.
Yeah, because they're not run properly.
They have a mishmash of policy These things don't make sense.
Yeah, but look like I'm gonna get real to everybody right now Chicago is extremely segregated.
I did a Twitter thread about this.
I grew up on 49th Street.
If you go north two blocks to 47th, that was the barrier.
You cross that line, every single property was owned by a black family.
and it was like the population demographics there was like 99.9% black.
You cross south from 47th to 48th and then 49th where I live and it was over it was like 70 80%
white some hispanic and then you know some immigrants and stuff like that. And then like 15
adam crigler
years ago the city of Chicago took all of the low-income housing from the north side every all
of it they got rid of it all and pushed all those families down to the south side of Chicago.
Which they do.
Yeah, and they pushed them all in and said, alright, you all live there now.
Have at it.
So it was like ultra-segregation.
This is in the aughts, 15 years ago, 2005.
You know what happens?
Around, I don't know exactly when.
tim pool
You know what happens when you have communities that are divided by race?
adam crigler
What happens?
tim pool
Everything becomes about race.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
So, you would have people who lived on the area, like the south side, south of 47th where I lived, and you had a lot of racist white people.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Because, to them, they would see someone from north of 47th, or like a black person walking around, and they would say, hey, you're from not in our community, what are you doing down here?
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
It was like a weird thing, and they were like overtly racist.
And so what ends up happening is, we were explicitly warned not to cross 47th.
Because, for one, violence.
The likelihood of violence, because you don't cross that line.
You're gonna get attacked or something because of racial reasons.
But more importantly, they were like, the cops will stop you.
adam crigler
What are you doing in this neighborhood?
You looking for drugs?
tim pool
Exactly.
adam crigler
Yup.
tim pool
And they'll frisk you down, and they'll pick you up, and that's like, you can't do it.
And so you've actually got enforcement of this hard racial barrier.
And it just breeds nothing but animosity.
And people view each other through a side-eye like, hmm.
If you know that the majority of people of one race do not live in your side, Then when you see someone of that race, they immediately think, like, you're not my neighbor.
And it's creepy and weird, man.
adam crigler
It is.
And that's fairly widespread.
I mean, I saw that in New York.
I saw that in Philadelphia and Chicago.
I mean, I did live in L.A.
for a little bit, but L.A.
is really a different kind of a city.
It's really spread out.
But New York and Chicago definitely saw that.
tim pool
Well, I think a lot of people don't realize when it comes to New York, too, is that, like, they drew lines on purpose.
Redlining?
Blockbusting?
Like, the kind of insane, racist stuff that was being done.
And this is what I think, you know, you know what really bugs me about the SJWs is that they make it impossible to actually talk about what happened in the 80s and going back to the 70s and 60s.
Like, do you know what redlining is?
adam crigler
Not really.
tim pool
We have to look it up so I can get a proper definition.
Are you familiar with what it is?
lydia smith
I am not.
tim pool
It comes from Chicago.
It has to do with the redline trains and how they would, you know, like, move people into specific areas.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So, redlining I'm not completely familiar with in terms of giving you the best definition, so I'm going to avoid that, otherwise I'll say something stupid.
I'll probably get it wrong, that's what I want to say, my understanding of it.
But I can tell you about blockbusting.
And this is crazy.
What they would do is, they would go to like a white suburban neighborhood.
And they would buy a house, like a bank or something, or some kind of real estate company would buy a house.
Then, they would purposefully rent that house out to a minority family.
Typically a black family.
Holy cow.
They would send out flyers to all the other houses and they'd say things like, oh, did you see what just happened?
Oh, look, you know, look, it's a minority family. Your property value is going to go down
And then these people would panic sell their houses Then the bank would move out the minority family
They rented to for a premium and then all the prices would go back up because like the market itself
so this is what this is what I tell people when it's like I don't want i'm not going to pretend like that's
Necessarily going on today because I don't know I'm not in real estate.
I'm not going to pretend like it was every single house, every single place in the country.
But this is something that I specifically covered when I was in Ferguson and we were talking to all these people in other neighborhoods about how you end up with segregated neighborhoods and stuff like that and the manipulation of people who try to play on fears and racial animosity to make money.
adam crigler
Or when we were in Baltimore?
Same thing?
tim pool
It was nuts.
Yep.
Yeah, we were we were there.
So Adam and I were there during the during the riots.
Adam was filming.
Yeah. And I was I was down there reporting.
Adam came down to help film and produce the content.
And someone threw up like a whiskey bottle at me, hit me in the arm with it.
adam crigler
Yeah, that was crazy.
tim pool
Yeah, man, because, you know, I guess one of the one of the biggest issues is that.
When it comes to these riots.
The progressive left defends them.
and And it's just the destruction of a community that doesn't do anything.
And they argue that it's resistance.
It's not resistance when you burn down your own house, man.
adam crigler
Yeah, I don't understand that.
That's like... But you know what?
I see this kind of stuff, and if I was a black man in this world, I would be upset.
I would be angry because I see it happening.
I see it.
It's still there.
tim pool
That's the problem, man.
You see it because the media wants you to see it.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
Because they want to get those clicks.
They want to drum this up because activists want to exploit it.
And it's like I was saying, right?
When I did the example of 10 innocent people died and like if eight of them were black, I'm not saying it's the actual proportions.
I'm just saying that if you have a hundred innocent people killed by police, be it accidental or intentional, and it's disproportionately black people, like African-Americans in America is 13%, Okay.
So if you have 30% of, you know, unarmed people being murdered, being black, some questions get asked.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And I'm not saying everybody's innocent.
I'm saying these questions get raised.
And then people focus on that, saying, why is this?
And then you ignore the fact that 70% of people who died were other races.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And that's one of the biggest problems I see with a lot of these activists.
They exploit this, they make money off it.
And I'll tell you what, man, there was an expose that was just done in the Daily Beast about Shaun King.
You know who he is?
adam crigler
It sounds familiar.
What's the story?
tim pool
That he consistently just uses and exploits things like this to make money, and he's made millions.
And he just lies about it, and they dragged him through the mud.
There are high-profile activists who are like, this dude is just ripping us off.
And like, I'm gonna be very careful on this one, but the dude, I've showed his picture to people, and I've asked people, what do you think this man's race is?
And you know what they say?
adam crigler
What?
White.
unidentified
Is he?
adam crigler
I don't even know.
tim pool
Let me try and pull up this Daily Beast story.
lydia smith
Yeah, let's see this picture.
adam crigler
You know, I see all this stuff, and all I can think is the entire system needs a shift.
Every single part of the system.
Our food, our education, our police force, our government.
Even us.
Even myself.
Like, everybody needs to shift.
Okay, this is Sean King.
tim pool
I don't even want to show this guy's face, but there.
unidentified
Boom.
lydia smith
Boom.
There it is.
tim pool
I shocked a lot of people.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So I've taken this picture of this guy, and I've said to people, like, I'm going to show you a picture of a guy.
Why don't you tell me what you think is racist?
And they just go, like, he's a white guy.
What do you mean?
Like, is that a trick question?
And I'm like...
he's a he's like one of the most prominent black lives matter activists
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
no like and i'm like he he's claiming that he's black
and they're like wait what this guy
yeah this guy and this this whole article daily basis basically talking
about how he's brought in millions of dollars
i mean look at it it's it's the way it's him It's the weirdest thing to me, dude.
It's a grift.
You know, I hate to use this word.
adam crigler
I don't know his ethnicity.
I don't even... I don't care.
It doesn't matter.
Like, I don't see that.
I mean, obviously we're all different shades, but we all bleed the same color.
It's like, I know a-holes out there of every different race.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
adam crigler
And I know amazing people, really incredible people, of all different races.
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
It's like, it's not the race.
It has nothing to do with it.
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
But in this instance... It's society putting you in a position that you have no choice.
And it's these people that you were talking about.
What was the redlining, blockbusting, all these things that... Stop-and-frisk, dude.
Stop-and-frisk is so racist.
Absolutely.
And the people in power are putting these things in place.
That's what I was talking about.
We need a shift.
We need to shift away from this racist BS that is just being perpetuated by the mainstream media.
Click, click, click.
Let's push this out here.
Let's get people pissed off.
Let's make money off of minorities.
That's what I'm seeing here.
tim pool
New York is a good example of the toilet swirl problem.
So, if you look at crime statistics, you will absolutely find that it is more likely that white people are victims of crimes from minorities than the other way around, right?
Okay.
adam crigler
Is that true?
tim pool
Yeah, I mean, I want to be very careful on this one.
lydia smith
That minorities are victims of more crimes?
tim pool
No, no, no, that white people tend to be the victim of violent crime from minorities and the other way around.
lydia smith
I believe this is the case.
tim pool
I'm being very, very careful on this one.
adam crigler
And yet, what's the percentage of the population that are white compared to minorities?
They're minorities for a reason, right?
So wouldn't that statistic just be like, duh?
tim pool
No, no, this is ridiculous.
If white people are 10 times more likely to be victimized by minorities, that's kind of weird considering white people make up 72% of the country.
The problem with this is people make race the issue instead of poverty, class, and it creates this toilet problem.
So what I try to explain to people is you need to understand that there absolutely is historical bias in how our families raise us and how this breeds long-term poverty and crisis.
adam crigler
It not only does all that, it's painting a picture that these minorities are bad people.
It's basically saying, teaching, you know, like, this minority group is bad.
We know they're bad.
tim pool
That's Bloomberg.
And Bloomberg creates a policy around this.
adam crigler
Right, exactly.
tim pool
Instead of realizing that it's like, you look at someone like Kanye West, and you're like, well that dude's kind of, like, he's really good at what he does.
He's like a regular.
So it reminds me of, you know who Daryl Davis is?
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
He's this blues musician who went and de-radicalized a whole bunch of Klansmen and white supremacists.
adam crigler
This dude is amazing.
tim pool
He epitomizes so much of what I believe in, in terms of us working together.
And he has this really great story where he said he was talking to this white supremacist guy who told him That, you know, he had like a gene or whatever that made him more likely to commit crimes or something.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And he was like, but for you it's dormant.
That's why you're an okay guy.
So then he fires it back at him and says, well, you know, white people have a gene that make them serial killers.
And the Klan guy was like, that's not true.
And he goes, name a black serial killer.
And the Klan guy was like, uh... Had nothing.
And so he was like, obviously that's not true either, man.
adam crigler
Right, exactly.
tim pool
And so I look at someone like, I think Kanye West is a good example because he's a billionaire, successful, and he's a Trump supporter, so it's like, it really flies in the face of these stereotypes that people have.
So what happens is, if you get Michael Bloomberg, who genuinely believes that because these crime statistics, you know, exist, that we must over-police these areas, You end up with people who, like I mentioned, they go to jail, they have to wait there because they can't afford to pay it because they're poor, then they lose their jobs, they get kicked out of school, and it creates this cycle.
And it's not, you know, I try to explain this to people, and this is why I was saying, like, when it comes to this story about the dude who died, like, I try to remove the racial component from it.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Because it's not gonna fix anything to exacerbate racial tensions.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
That's literally the problem.
What we need to do is, for one, Michael Bloomberg is an awful dude.
That guy's terrible.
I don't know anybody who likes him.
Conservatives and progressives don't like him.
I guess, weirdly, there were, like, desperate liberals who wanted him to win to beat Trump, but that dude is just not good.
It's the craziest thing to me when I see some people, like some conservatives online, defend New York and their racist policies.
And I'm like, bro, does your small conservative town have this policy in place?
It doesn't.
You're allowed to bear arms.
Stop and frisk is a gun control measure targeting people who should, by constitutional rights, be allowed to have these weapons within reason, right?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And instead he sends them specifically into their neighborhood and Michael Bloomberg is on recording saying
it specifically about their race.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
So for me, I think why this I have the problem with what, you know, Michael Bloomberg is in this argument is because
growing up on the South Side with all of these different people, I watched cops throw white people around.
I watched innocent people get, you know, like I was wrongfully arrested.
So that's why I don't like it when they act like white people have privilege.
That's why I can't stand the social justice types.
And I can't stand racists.
It's like both of them are overlooking the problem.
And it stands to make things worse.
adam crigler
Yeah, the problem is not race.
It's society as a whole.
And like, the way that we've... You know, what's happened is the wheels have been turning for so long that everyone's just kind of complaining that the wheels are turning the way they are instead of just rearranging the whole machine, you know?
tim pool
It's not so easy, man.
adam crigler
Yeah, do you watch the Kevin Hart on Joe Rogan?
tim pool
Part of it.
adam crigler
So Kevin Hart, he's working with JPMorgan, right?
And JPMorgan wants to bring awareness to inner-city kids, you know, teach them money.
And they're like, we're gonna send, hey Kevin, let's send you with this white guy that we have.
And Kevin Hart's like, no, that's ridiculous.
You can't send some JPMorgan white dude to the middle of the city to try to, like, teach these people.
It's like Bloomberg trying to, like, make decisions to, like, figure out, oh, well, I know what's best for these people.
No, you don't.
tim pool
It's like Joe Biden telling Charlottesville, God, if you don't vote for me, you ain't black.
adam crigler
Exactly that.
tim pool
You got no idea what you're talking about.
adam crigler
So Kevin's like, no, I'm going to do it my way.
I'm going to go down there and I'm going to teach him myself because I was there.
I did live there.
I'm going to teach him how to do this.
And it's like, that's what we need.
We need proactive people like Kevin Hart You know, he's an amazing comedian, but man, is he making moves.
Because he's working with J.P.
Morgan.
Like, I was like, you're working with J.P.
Morgan?
Like, what?
That's exactly what we need to happen.
The people who are in charge need a fresh perspective like Kevin Hart's given them.
Like, no, no, no.
Whatever you think you know what's best for this community, you have no idea because you've never been in that community.
So we need those kind of leaders.
Props, Kevin Hart.
That was really awesome, man.
tim pool
Michael Bloomberg is trash.
And the social justice warriors are trash.
And the main reason I really, really hate the social justice warriors is, like I was mentioning before, they make it impossible to actually solve these problems because they exacerbate the problems of racial tension.
And I'll give you a really great example.
Dave Chappelle is, I think, probably, of our generation, the best comedian.
unidentified
It's like, this dude... He is smart, man.
tim pool
His Netflix special.
adam crigler
Which one?
tim pool
Man, the latest one.
adam crigler
All of them are good.
tim pool
What was the last one he did?
lydia smith
Sticks and Stones.
tim pool
All the SJWs got offended and they were shocked and outraged.
And I'm like, here we are with the people.
It's really, really funny.
You have all these conservatives that are being accused of being racist, loving this guy, laughing at this guy, celebrating him as one of the greatest comedians who's making all these brilliant and smart points, clearly disproving their narrative.
How do we deal with someone like Bloomberg?
Who doesn't know how to actually solve this problem.
Who gets voted in in the ultra-liberal stronghold.
And then you have these social justice types that shut down actual thought leaders in this community who are propped up, who are wealthy and successful.
They hate Kanye West.
They hate Dave Chappelle.
They rag on him all day and night, and they're symbols of success.
They break the stereotypes, and they actually disprove these false narratives that the racists would hold.
They make it worse.
They make it so much worse.
Here's Dave Chappelle doing a bit where he's like, you know what I loved?
When he did that Chinese impression that was like overt 1920s style racist.
And I'm part Asian, and it was amazing.
And you know what they say to me?
They're like, well, you're not Asian enough, Tim.
adam crigler
I'm like, dude, you're not Asian enough to be offended.
tim pool
Exactly.
adam crigler
And you look over and it's like, white Karen and white Jerry going.
tim pool
And here's the thing though.
If I agree with them, then I am Asian.
If I say like, I'm Asian and I'm offended, Dave Chappelle said that, and they go, I'm so sorry for you, you're so right.
But if I say like, I'm Asian and I actually think that's really funny.
lydia smith
You're not Asian enough?
tim pool
Let me tell you one of my favorite jokes ever.
All right.
I don't know if I should say who said this to me.
I may have already said this publicly, but I don't want to drag anybody.
I'll just say this.
There was a conservative personality, and I was talking about YouTube demonetization.
And I was like, dude, it's getting really bad, man.
Like, I've had videos about just, like, talking regular politics getting demonetized.
Even my mom, who makes math videos, is getting, like, kindergarten math videos demonetized.
And this person said, Tim, why am I not surprised that your Korean mom makes math videos?
And I started laughing.
I immediately texted my mom, and I told her that, and she started busting out laughing.
She thought it was hilarious.
We loved it.
It was a joke.
It was like poking fun at the fact that, like, what are you doing?
You're playing to the stereotype.
I thought it was hilarious.
adam crigler
Yeah, don't say the name.
Those SJW Karens are gonna, they would flock.
They're clearly looking for their next victim now that Jimmy Fallon's already apologized.
tim pool
Man, I remember when we had real liberals.
Like, the actual heart of the word.
Believing in freedom.
So I've always explained to people, like, I'm not a classical liberal.
I'm a social liberal.
And social liberals are center-left, and classical liberals are center-right.
Classical liberals tend to think government shouldn't play a role in, like, social programs and services.
And social liberals tend to think they should.
There's very little dissimilar, you know.
So I look at certain issues with, when we have, like in Chicago, these clear lines of separation based on race, and I'm like, we gotta change the policy on this thing, right?
adam crigler
Yes.
tim pool
Like, we need to figure out why this is bad.
But you gotta be careful with it, because if it goes, if it runs, if you don't plan ahead properly, you make everything worse.
And that's why I think I can respect a lot of people who are like, government, get hands off, because otherwise you make the problem worse.
adam crigler
Yep.
True.
tim pool
But then I think the counter argument is, it runs wild, it can get worse too.
adam crigler
I feel like it's run wild for so long.
That's where we're at right now, though.
tim pool
Why can't we just be a group of people who are center-left, center-right, you know, maybe left and right, all laughing at Dave Chappelle, having a good time, and telling everyone else to go after themselves, and let the extremists, you know... The left has been taken over by these people who won't accept that we like Kevin Hart, we like Dave Chappelle, we like Kanye West, you know what I mean?
adam crigler
Because there's people among all groups that are not emotionally stable.
So their emotions take over, and they re at the top of their lungs.
You know?
tim pool
I think it breaks their power structure.
Like, they need to be victims.
It's like the Karen who feigns victimhood to gain that power.
And I'm gonna do a quick shout-out, because I know there's gonna be people on the left who are like, all they're doing is ragging on the left while they're talking about racism.
What about the white supremacists?
Like, what, all ten of them?
Please, spare me, dude.
You let me know when there's an actual group of legit racist white supremacists controlling major news networks, taking over the movie industry.
I'm not concerned about the fact that, I think it was the ADL or whatever, or the ACLU or whatever organization, said there's 10,000 white supremacists in this country.
unidentified
10,000?
adam crigler
10,000.
That's it.
I mean, that's already too many, but at the same time, that's a small amount.
Go.
lydia smith
I have an article in front of me because I was actually curious about this.
I remember this number.
The number is nine.
Nine is the number of people who showed up at a KKK rally in Dayton, Ohio.
They were drowned out by 600 protesters.
adam crigler
Boom.
lydia smith
That was the KKK.
adam crigler
I remember this.
lydia smith
I was like, you know what?
Yeah.
It was last year.
adam crigler
Yeah.
That's awesome.
unidentified
Yeah, it's great.
adam crigler
Oh, you want to rally?
Bring it on.
Props to those 600 people, because they're the ones that are winning that war.
tim pool
Well, it's like, keep it peaceful and protest and counter-protest.
I'm fine with it.
But there's been a lot of escalating violence and stuff.
They're white supremacists, man.
They exist.
And you know what?
Maybe out of that calculation of 10,000 or whatever, there's even more who just don't say it.
Vox tried running an article claiming that, like, 10 million people secretly hold these views, too, and it's like, shut up, dude!
adam crigler
Well, as far as the dear person says, most gamers are white supremacists.
And yet there's only 10,000 in the States?
The whole thing is stupid.
tim pool
It's like, deflect, make the victim the oppressor and vice versa.
They're the ones who are given the positions of authority at these companies to ban people, to silence people.
They're the ones who are in academic institutions determining, you know, the way that news organizations should be writing their articles.
They're the ones who are running these big tech companies, silencing voices they don't like.
Twitter is not run by white supremacists.
The discourse on the platform is not heavily in favor of that, not at all.
And it's like, they're literally the villains of our video games.
So it's like, you want to tell me, you know, nah, I'm sorry, dude.
My complaint is with you, your dogmatic religion, because you're purposefully making things worse.
I think they do it on purpose.
They use it as a power system.
They need to maintain power imbalance to solidify their position above while pretending like they're actually trying to fix things.
adam crigler
That's it right there.
tim pool
Meanwhile, like growing up on the South Side being poor, it's like we're all in the gutter together, man.
We fight together.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
It's funny, like there's this clip going viral and we should definitely, we gotta go to Super Chats after this.
These kids in Venice Beach, California.
They're all shoveling and bucketing the sand out.
So for those that don't know, the city of Venice dumped tons of sand into the skate park to stop kids from skating because of lockdown.
All these people show up with buckets and they start shoveling all of the sand out recently.
And somebody commented, they were like, wow, people of all races and genders working together peacefully and doing things together.
I'm like, yeah, normal people, dude.
adam crigler
Yes, exactly.
Normal people.
lydia smith
Right, exactly.
adam crigler
The average person is exactly that group of skateboarders.
tim pool
Don't care.
It wasn't even skateboards, it was regular people too.
You had like women, you had some dudes, like people were like, I want to help.
adam crigler
Yeah, I worked on Venice Beach for a while at Arbor Skateboards.
Shout out to Arbor.
And mad people came in and out of that store.
I would take lunch and walk a stroll down Venice.
There's people of all shapes and sizes and colors and everything.
Everyone was happy.
I mean, it's sunny.
It's a beautiful, beautiful place also, but...
There was no, I mean, everyone was cool.
Everyone would, hey, what up?
No matter who it is, if you say that to someone, unless, I mean, maybe tourists would be like, oh, someone's talking to me.
But if it was a local, they would say what up.
tim pool
If these like social justice type people and their like racial views or whatever, you brought them to my neighborhood growing up, people would hate them.
Yeah, absolutely hate them. They'd be like yo, why you trying to make us fight each other man?
That's exactly it like we're we're all like me like we had a group of friends
They were all different races, and we were all poor we were all poor together
And so like I mean I got stories of people scamming Taco Bell so we could all eat like nobody had money
It was people partying Nobody had jobs.
It was the south side of Chicago.
I was on the southwest side.
I don't want to pretend it was the worst place of the worst.
There were definitely middle class people living down there.
But as poor kids hanging out, trying to figure out how we're going to get that Taco Bell in Mountain Dew after our session, we would go panhandling.
We'd be like standing by the train being like, yo, can we get some money for the train?
And it was equalizing, it was like we were all just buddies.
And if you mess with any one of our friends, the funniest thing, like we fight you, one of the funniest things I always bring up is that we had one friend who would call everybody by their racial slur.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Straight up. I can't even say the words they would say, but he would call me by the Korean slur.
He would call the, you know, Mexican kid by the Mexican slur.
He'd call everybody and nobody cared. It was funny.
He was like Cartman.
And it was just like, we knew he wasn't trying to actually disparage us over our race.
It was like, there's this, there's a meme.
It's a comic of two guys and there's three guys.
One guy's leaving and two guys and they say like, you know, die a-hole, you know, F-you,
you know, you know, I can't repeat what the meme is, but it's like really awful things.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
And then as soon as the guy's gone, the two guys go, he's a really cool dude.
Yeah, he's actually pretty cool.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Then the women are like, bye honey, bye sweetheart.
And then when she leaves, they're like, what an awful.
awful slight which is scary.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But like the point is we were a group of dudes and we were ragging each other all the time in the worst possible ways.
And it was like actually brought us together that we all had
our I guess slur that we were called so nobody cared.
You know.
unidentified
Mm hmm.
tim pool
Yeah man.
I don't I don't I don't I guess you know to wrap this up and then we'll jump to super chats.
All these stories together.
We had, you know, Jimmy Fallon doing blackface.
We had the two Karens in New York City.
And then we had this dude who lost his life.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
It doesn't... I don't agree with you, man.
I'm not as hopeful that it's going away.
adam crigler
Honestly, after this whole thing, maybe you're right.
I have certain circles.
I don't spend time in these kind of places that this kind of stuff happens.
You know?
I might be oblivious of it.
So it's like, when we go through these kind of stories, it's like, I mean, I did.
I lived in New York.
I saw it happen.
I saw it happen all the time.
So this has just proven to me that it's still happening.
Nothing's changing.
And it proves to me more that it's wrong.
Something's off in our society that this is still happening.
tim pool
Well, listen, here's what I mean.
It is changing, but we're replacing the, like, the supremacy types.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
With the dogmatic authoritarian types.
The racialists.
These people who make everything have to be about your race.
They reduce your character, your life, and your experiences down to just the color of your skin.
Yeah.
And it's the same thing to me.
It's just... You know what I call these people?
They're white supremacists with guilty consciences.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So they've... I'll tell you what, man.
We gotta get to Super Chats, but...
I had a guy tell me that the concept of time was created by white people and it was oppressive and it was it was like I'm like bro bro bro like dude I think other cultures understood the concept of like waking up to for the harvest and like tending to the cows and chickens and and growing things and doing agriculture like these people that I've talked to a lot of these you know these progressive white Karen types Really do think that literally everything came from them
and it's now their sacred duty to hand down the gifts to the poor stupid lowly
Types man, and I can't stand it man when when when these people who I think are lazy and inept
It's like man man, man Trying to imagine someone like I want you. Here's what I
want your picture You wake up every day, you go to work, right?
You wake up, you put on your clothes, and you do some real back-breaking labor, and you just work really hard, you don't get paid very much.
And you come home to the roommate, who's sitting there in their, you know, grease-covered body, covered in mustard stains, playing video games, and you're like, bro, it's like, you're gonna pay the rent?
And they're like, listen, dude, you're doing everything all wrong.
Like, first of all, this job thing you're doing is a big mistake.
And you're like, I'm the one paying rent!
I'm the one doing all the work!
How are you gonna tell me And that's what it's like.
These people who think they're better than you, who are doing nothing, who are inept, lazy, ignorant, telling you they're smarter than you, and because of that, they pity you.
unidentified
Nah, I'm not a fan of that, man.
adam crigler
I agree.
tim pool
That was shockingly controversial.
I can't wait for all the clips to come out where they're like... Yeah, that was a heavy episode.
lydia smith
Yeah, it was kind of sobering.
I don't know.
tim pool
I'll just end by saying this, man.
You show me a video of someone having their civil liberties violated.
lydia smith
Yeah, I don't like that.
tim pool
This is America, bro.
The state does not have the authority to kill anybody.
Well, okay.
I take that back.
They do win the death penalty.
What I mean to say is, if you're innocent and not proven guilty, and they take your life, we gotta talk about it.
We gotta figure this out.
We can't have this.
adam crigler
It's murder, yo.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, you gotta be careful on that.
adam crigler
Alright, fine.
Manslaughter?
They killed a guy.
tim pool
They killed a guy.
adam crigler
He's dead.
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
We don't even know if he was guilty or innocent.
It doesn't matter.
tim pool
He's innocent.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
That's it.
adam crigler
Innocent until proven guilty.
That's how we work here.
tim pool
And I'll tell you what, man.
He may have been guilty, but if you kill them before that trial, as far as I'm concerned, you'll never- He was never proven guilty.
Never proven guilty.
adam crigler
Yeah, absolutely.
tim pool
I'm sorry, man.
Constitution, English Common Law, the Fifth Amendment, you have a right to due process.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
They took his due process away.
adam crigler
So they killed an innocent man then?
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Right.
Simply put.
tim pool
Yeah.
I cannot stand how we live in a country where if you're arrested people assume you're guilty.
lydia smith
Yeah, I don't like that.
tim pool
It's the same thing with false accusations.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
You know, you had that guy, what was his name, Hardwick or whatever?
Chris Hardwick, I think?
adam crigler
Sounds familiar.
tim pool
He got falsely accused of something or other, gets taken off his show, investigated, turns out nothing happened.
It's like don't presume guilt, presume innocence.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
No, he did get his show back, didn't he?
lydia smith
Oh, he did.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he did.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
adam crigler
Yep, that's what they do.
They presume guilt now.
lydia smith
That's the whole thing now.
tim pool
Everybody does in various ways.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
So like, I see this.
I'm not going to assume that guy was innocent or guilty, except for the fact that we have the presumption of
innocence.
So I default to innocence.
Sorry, man.
You should, like, you should.
This dude wasn't fighting, like, I don't know, man.
I see a guy who's saying, please, I can't breathe, and he's not resisting.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
It's kind of like, if I was going to die, wouldn't you resist?
This guy didn't even do that.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Man.
But I guess it's time to take super chats, because we went longer than that one.
unidentified
Yes, indeed.
adam crigler
What's up, everybody?
tim pool
This was brutal.
lydia smith
Heavy.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Sometimes it's got to happen.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
tim pool
But now we're gonna jump to your super chat, so make sure you smash that like button if you haven't already, or if you don't like our opinions on this matter, because this was a very contentious issue.
I agree.
I simply ask that you argue with us.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
You know, because I see there's a lot of comments, and a lot of people have different opinions, and I respect all of your opinions.
I don't think either of us know everything, but we just see what we see.
adam crigler
I will be the first to admit it.
tim pool
Yeah.
So all you gotta do is enter your arguments into the super chat, and we'll do our best to read through them, keeping in mind We went long.
I'm going to try and read as many as we can, but we probably won't get to everybody, but we will get through most of the list.
So, at a certain point, we start moving up in terms of larger Super Chats.
I really don't like doing it that way, to be honest.
It just seems gross, but I really don't know how else to delineate between how we speed things up.
adam crigler
It's supposed to be a two-hour show, but we keep going over.
tim pool
I mean, I'm cool with it.
adam crigler
We do what we can, yeah.
tim pool
A side note, I have new pants.
They're awesome.
lydia smith
He does.
Okay.
tim pool
That's it.
I'm bringing it up because I'm actually wearing a different shirt, different pants, and no one said no.
adam crigler
How many people noticed, do you think?
tim pool
I don't know.
lydia smith
No one ever sees your pants.
adam crigler
But he is wearing a different shirt, though.
unidentified
I am.
tim pool
It's thinner.
It's summer, you know.
adam crigler
The one thing that is different is the lighter gray in your collar.
I don't know if anyone noticed it, but...
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I got these really nice pants.
Their stretch jeans are awesome.
Anyway, David says, if you all do make decks, can you do a longboard as well?
Move to Syracuse Skate Park by lake?
Vegan pizza and vegan milkshakes?
Or bubble tea on me?
adam crigler
Longboards are harder though because classic skateboards all come in the same shape, so it's a lot easier because the molds are all the same.
Well, relatively.
You know, a longboard requires a specific mold to be built, tested, make sure.
I actually did a lot of this when I was working at Arbor.
I actually helped design a board of theirs, and so I know the process.
It's a lot heavier process to make a longboard deck than a skateboard deck.
tim pool
Well, I'm hoping to get two different sizes for skateboards.
We'll figure it out.
I'm talking with the company.
Might be really cool.
I gotta test the boards, but I think they'll work out.
I'm skeptical, though, because I really like anti-hero and real, so we'll see what... I don't know what company they're gonna source them from, so we'll have to figure it out.
adam crigler
I hear you, chat.
tim pool
Grim Soul Banishes has spit in the UFO!
adam crigler
Wow.
Really?
Did that just happen?
lydia smith
Nice timing.
Excellent.
tim pool
Garlotto says, love your content.
Move to Texas.
Cheap land.
No income tax.
Clean air.
Just stay away from Houston, Austin.
Too many liberals.
You know what I mean?
You know, my issue isn't with liberals.
My issue is, do we have enough space to fire guns and fire bows and arrows?
lydia smith
That is the main issue.
tim pool
Frisbee golf, maybe?
I don't know.
Chickens.
I'd love to have chickens.
Just because they're funny.
They're so silly.
lydia smith
They give you food.
tim pool
Hilarious.
Evan says, Tim, to answer your big tech question, consider looking at Purism's Librem 5 phone.
The components are open source and 90% made in the USA.
I'll be getting mine in August.
That is really good, actually.
You wanna write that down?
lydia smith
Yeah, Purism.
tim pool
Yeah, Purism's Librem 5.
I'll check that out.
Mumblingbeardedfreak says, have you guys seen the massive inflation in the MTG market?
Small micro-economy that demonstrates the effect of the Trump bucks.
Interested if it will stay inflated or crash?
Companions are trashed.
Companions are trashed.
adam crigler
Yeah, I don't know.
Wizards are messing up, man.
Their new Double Masters set's coming out, and that's got a huge implication on the whole aftermarket that they say they don't recognize, which is total BS.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
They totally do.
They know what they're doing.
tim pool
They do.
adam crigler
They're milking the players for everything that they can get.
tim pool
Monocrypts are coming back in the new Master Set.
adam crigler
It's ridiculous.
tim pool
Yeah, they know what they're doing.
adam crigler
They know exactly what they're doing.
tim pool
All right, JustDavid says, Harumph shirt Tim looks like Todd.
Adam, in your best Princess Caroline, tell Tim have fun failing upwards.
Tim, say with enthusiasm, I always do.
adam crigler
I don't know Princess Caroline, so I don't even know what that is.
tim pool
Dude, no, but did you see the Princess Bride meme that Mad Liberals made?
adam crigler
Yes, I did see it.
tim pool
Wow, man.
unidentified
It's really good.
tim pool
Masterful.
adam crigler
It's pretty good, yeah.
tim pool
If you guys didn't see it, you got to look it up.
It's Mad Liberals?
lydia smith
Yeah, Mad Liberals.
Yeah, you retweeted it.
tim pool
I did. Yeah, I did. I did. I saw. And they were like, Oh, thanks. It's amazing. Like
Brian. So it's Princess Bride. It's Vecini. Is that his name? Vecini. But it's Brian Stelter's
face and the mouth is moving with the words like impressive and his face is shaking. Never go up
unidentified
against a Sicilian when death is on the line. And then Brian Stelter died.
adam crigler
That's pretty good.
lydia smith
That's amazing.
adam crigler
That was a pretty good impression.
tim pool
And then the best part was when Trump stands up and Ruttercup is like, she's like, it was his poison all along.
And then Trump goes, they were both poisoned.
I've been building up an immunity to hydroxychloroquine for years.
So good.
lydia smith
Go watch it.
tim pool
So good.
STFU says, YouTube keeps blocking my ability to super chat.
YouTube!
adam crigler
That's annoying.
tim pool
Oh man.
Come on in, eh?
Like, just take all the land you want.
Canada will surrender. Trudeau is on record saying he admires their basic dictatorship.
Think other countries wouldn't get involved.
Oh man.
Yeah, Canada's gonna just be like, come on in, eh? Like, just take all the land you want,
we'll just do whatever you say, huh?
Archibald says, all my friends in Northern Illinois who are not in Chicago proper are
yelling to open up.
I hear this, yeah.
Let's see, Sarkar Darkstar.
Sarkar Darkstar.
I listen on Spotify, so I won't hear this until tomorrow, but you played a big role in de-radicalizing me from the far right and returned me to my libertarian roots.
Oh, look man, I don't speak directly to people, I guess.
I just kind of tell you what I think.
That's awesome.
If people get de-radicalized and we can all sit down and have a slice of pizza and have a good old time, that's the best way to do it.
lydia smith
Sounds more fun.
tim pool
James Merriweather says, If you guys don't know, you may want to look into the case of Hannah Kimura as it revolves around her receiving death and rape threats on Twitter, which ultimately led to her taking her life.
RIP HK.
Wow, man.
Sorry.
That's sad.
Let's see.
Stone says, we press F to respect you guys.
Appreciate it.
lydia smith
Oh, thanks.
tim pool
Seth Baldwin says, oh dear, how dare you be early?
That's right.
We got you.
You were early by like half a minute.
Idget, idget.
Joe Biden saying people ain't black has been developing into some wonderful memes.
He might as well just stop running now.
Did you see the coffin meme?
No.
So you know the dancing coffin meme?
Yeah, yeah.
So this was Will Chamberlain, Human Events, Jordan Lancaster, Ian Malmstrong, I guess they made this or whatever.
And it's Joe Biden says it and all of a sudden they're dancing with a coffin and the coffin says Biden for president on it.
And all of these journalists start freaking out.
unidentified
They're like, oh, Donald Trump just tweeted out this meme of Joe Biden.
Dead.
tim pool
And it's like, it's his campaign.
lydia smith
That's totally his campaign, dude.
tim pool
It's a meme for the kids.
Calm down, dude.
These people just want to be mad about something.
lydia smith
I know, right?
adam crigler
Ridgebit.
tim pool
Yeah, Grefontario says, never apologize for being cancelled, good god.
I freaking hate social media.
The worst invention ever inflicted on mankind.
It seems every other day is a cancelled party.
Seriously.
lydia smith
Yeah, it's always someone new and I never understand why.
tim pool
Sir Average Joe says, I swear we all live in the Truman Show.
The Michael Moore story today shattered my last working brain cell.
Did you see this?
adam crigler
Yeah, I heard you talking about it when you were recording it.
tim pool
Michael Moore's documentary got deleted from YouTube for a copyright infringement.
adam crigler
Seriously?
tim pool
And it was like not even legit.
It was fair use, four seconds, my understanding is.
adam crigler
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
These activists, man.
They'll take you down.
They'll find anything.
lydia smith
They'll get you.
adam crigler
They'll try.
tim pool
Yeah, well, you know what?
Michael Moore, you reap what you sow.
He's pandered to these people, and that's what happens.
adam crigler
Yeah, I guess so.
tim pool
No, I haven't.
says Adam, did you follow up on the Eurovision songs? The Russian song Uno is such a meme.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
No I haven't. Oh no, I totally forgot. Where was Epic Sax from? Remember Epic Sax? No.
You remember Epic Sax? No, I'm not sure. It's like a guy and he's like dancing to the saxophone.
adam crigler
Sounds awesome, though.
Yeah, yeah, actually.
Sounds familiar.
tim pool
Maybe that was it, I don't know.
Eric says, Tim, are your videos available in other formats?
I'm tired of Biteswa and, what is it, what is Shangmoo?
Like Susan bowing down to Winnie the Pooh and his 50 cent party.
Bravo, good sir!
lydia smith
Oh, man, yeah.
tim pool
That was, like, so many insults in one sentence, I'm impressed.
Pretty impressive, yeah.
It is on BitChute.
It all automatically uploads there, so you can check that out, I guess.
DarkRanji says, I recently started skating again.
Oh, actually, I will point out, too, my content, there's two podcasts go up.
The TimCast IRL podcast goes up in the mornings on, I think, every platform, right?
And then on Spotify, you can, I'm sorry, not on Spotify, on every other platform, you can also find the Tim Pool Daily Show, which is my personal content.
That goes up at 6.30 p.m.
every day.
DarkRanchu said, I recently started skating again, and I'm having some issues.
When I ollie the board, it does pop off the ground, but it's a bit low.
Do you have any advice for a cubby guy?
Do you mean chubby or cubby?
I don't know what that is.
Also, board recommendations.
adam crigler
Well, uh, if you can pop off the ground a little bit, repetition.
Repetition.
Repetition.
That's how you get the muscle memory to be able to do an ollie without thinking about it, and that's really what you want.
So, I mean, I would recommend doing it while rolling forward slowly.
Don't do it on the grass.
You're just stunting your growth.
You know, go roll forward a little bit because you want to be able to catch the landing and know what it means to regain your balance once you land.
That's really important also.
So make sure you're practicing that.
unidentified
Word.
adam crigler
I see you cook all the time, though.
tim pool
I cook, but I don't really bake, no.
says spending this $10 to Virtue signal how fantastic my sourdough bread is.
Also, Adam need to bake or else he isn't a real man.
adam crigler
I've baked.
I've baked in the past.
tim pool
I see you cook all the time though.
adam crigler
I cook but I don't really bake now.
tim pool
We make bread like every day now.
Kojima Fire says, Hey Tim, it's a rumor here in Michigan but apparently the governor's
husband was acting like a Karen, demanding he get gas for his boat first.
Also, there's a funny picture called Stretchin' Gretchen.
Oh, I'm not interested.
Yeah, I heard about that husband thing, though.
Apparently she didn't deny it or whatever.
Maximanandcheese says, Sorry guys, ROTC already covered this.
Sleep well.
says no time stamps tonight I work at 4 a.m. tomorrow well appreciate it anyway
sleep well you sleep well yeah Mark Robert Shaw says for all the freedom and
Constitution rights you Americans rave about you seem to bend over rather
quickly when authority come down and suppress you with with unconstitutional
rules seems to be the case doesn't it they just turned the Constitution into
Swiss cheese yeah graph on Tyrrell says as far as I can tell Karen is gender
neutral I don't care what's between your legs if you act like that you're still
Karen to me that's equality there you go yeah David Sadano says say NYC please
adam crigler
Central NY, don't give an F. Actually, someone actually tweeted me and asked us to stop saying New York.
tim pool
New York City.
adam crigler
Yeah, say New York City.
Because there is a huge difference, that's true.
That's fair.
The whole time we've been talking about New York City.
tim pool
Slav in the chat says, greetings Western capitalists, why does US government not get along with Russia?
Both are corrupt, only difference is we have better vodka.
I think they do have better vodka, and they don't get along because they're both trying to, you know, fight for the vodka, I guess.
I mean that figuratively.
AttitudeInAction says, what do you call a group of Karens?
A complaint or a privilege?
There's a bunch of different jokes about it on HOA.
What does that stand for?
lydia smith
Homeowners Association.
unidentified
Yeah, homeowners association, HOA.
tim pool
No, you can't paint your house.
David says, sent link to you at Adam G via Twitter on the George Floyd case.
Four cops linked to the case were fired from Minneapolis PD.
Oh yeah, I'll take this opportunity to say, you can follow me on Twitter and Instagram at TimCast, and you can also follow Adam at AdamKrigler, but you can send him stories.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
He's basically the story collector.
So you can send him all the stuff on Twitter and tip stories, and we use him.
We use him.
Yeah.
And Lydia.
lydia smith
Oh, hold on.
adam crigler
This is me.
tim pool
At Sour Patch Lutes.
lydia smith
At Sour Patch Lutes, that's me.
And I really like talking to people.
tim pool
And she posts spicy memes.
lydia smith
I do have memes.
tim pool
Cyrillio says, never been this early.
It feels good.
Appreciate it, man.
Patrick McEnamin says, the gender neutral Karen is Cooper.
If we get rid of Karen... Yeah, it's Cooper.
Oh yeah, it's interesting.
If we got rid of Karen, it would help quiet the feminists.
That's interesting because both their names were Cooper.
unidentified
Yeah.
Could be.
Cool.
tim pool
Right on.
Launch them.
Pearson says I just got to work yesterday on adding some guitar solos to your guys's songs. It's been a lot of fun
I can't wait for this Friday. I'll get in touch with Adam when I have two songs ready. Thanks dudes
Oh, man, pretty cool right on boo Not you says we should airdrop stuffed Winnie the Pooh's
over China launch them just trebuchet Stfu says dude as a smoker from Cali
I've been dealing with Karen's jaywalking across streets just to cough at me while I smoke a cig outdoors
Yikes, man.
lydia smith
Oh, man.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Alex says, I hope you would consider Southwest Ohio.
We have a lot of resources and open spaces.
Did you guys see the lady driven out of the store because she wasn't wearing a mask?
I believe it was in New York.
Creepy, dude.
You saw that, right?
unidentified
City.
adam crigler
New York City.
tim pool
New York City.
lydia smith
Right, right, right.
Yeah.
tim pool
Where they're all yelling.
adam crigler
Yeah, I saw it.
tim pool
Shame, shame.
David says, thanks guys.
Best part of my day.
Appreciate it.
Mark Robert Shaw says, what would you do if your friend or wife or partner was held down by the police and died?
What would you do?
Would you fight or would you do nothing?
adam crigler
That's a strong question.
tim pool
Yup.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
The most shocking thing to me about the story is that people are standing around watching a guy die and they're like, man, what are you doing?
That's not cool.
And they just don't do anything.
And it's scary that what are you supposed to do?
Fight a cop?
Even if you do save that man's life, there'll be then, then like, here's the thing.
If you see a cop with a knee on someone's neck and you know, they're going to die.
If you save that person's life, then you're going to get arrested.
And they're gonna say, nobody died.
What are you talking about?
Yep, it was standard procedure.
adam crigler
It's a good point.
tim pool
All you do is assault a cop.
So then people stand back and do nothing.
Now a guy's dead.
adam crigler
That's why what you said earlier, they need to be held accountable.
But what did you say?
A higher standard.
tim pool
What I mean by that is not so much there would be different rules applied to them, just that we would take a very hard look at everything they do and it would be like less lenient.
It would be more strictened by the book.
Yeah.
adam crigler
That should be the case.
tim pool
If a kid trespasses, then we can say, don't ever do it again, here's a warning.
If, you know, if a cop does it, we say like, bro, you can't break the law, so you're getting a hard fine.
Like, we take it seriously if you're supposed to be the person not, you know, enforcing the laws.
But I understand it's in all things nuance, right?
Like, sometimes cops are trespassing, so that analogy may not work.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
We accept taps.
Light taps.
What does it say? I don't know. I can't read it. Sorry, man.
I will not smash the like button. This phone was too expensive. I will tap it though. Hey, thank you. Lightly
take your mouse. We accept taps. Lightly tap. Light taps. I suppose I'll like it. Talbot says I want to buy a massive
warehouse near Twitter HQ. Set up a slow Disney-style track ride with couches on it. With a bullhorn chained on.
Track will go back and forth three miles, the Twitter experience.
Good fun.
BioZombie, thanks for joining!
SilverNode says, what types of laws do you think could come out of COVID-19?
unidentified
Um, like...
adam crigler
Or have already.
tim pool
Yeah, what do you think?
adam crigler
Didn't they already add some stuff?
They're trying to make it so everyone's phone has an app they can trace.
tim pool
Oh, that's a good one, yeah.
adam crigler
It's not even a law though, it's just like... It just happened.
tim pool
Yep, all your phones do it now.
adam crigler
It's just a thing now.
tim pool
Welcome to the new world.
adam crigler
Terrible.
tim pool
The Grizzly says, got a cool game for you guys to play.
There's a new game called Man Eater.
It's a game where you play as a killer mutant shark that grows big and gets radioactive powers from eating toxic waste.
adam crigler
I saw that.
It's pretty funny looking.
tim pool
Joseph says, sent Tim an email about the Lives of Others movie.
Restate surveillance.
I try to stay off social network sites, making sure.
Is email cool?
It is indeed.
Let's see.
Idontgreasy says, I own a lot of guns for different uses.
Would you ever consider moving to a more lax state so you could as well?
Yes, indeed.
Absolutely.
Joseph says, been watching since saw you on Rogan a few weeks back.
Keep up the great work.
Need more independent news voices.
Mainstream news is now partisan trash.
It is, but I mean, I have my biases, I guess.
But I also think maybe I'm a bit more self-deprecating because I don't actually watch all the other partisans.
So maybe that plays a role in it.
No, I haven't.
says love the show.
Question for Adam.
Have you read Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand?
She lays out an argument for the morality of selfishness and even profits.
adam crigler
No, I haven't.
lydia smith
Interesting.
tim pool
You gotta play Bioshock.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
You should play Bioshock, dude.
You'll probably play through it in a day.
adam crigler
Yeah, maybe I'll stream it.
tim pool
It's amazing.
You definitely should.
Bioshock is a legend, man.
lydia smith
It's beautiful.
tim pool
Kuboos and Bioshock Infinite is also really good.
I'm not a big fan of the ones in between.
I didn't play Bioshock 2 and whatever else was in there because it was kind of like a rehash.
I don't know.
But Bioshock 1 and Bioshock Infinite do really great cultural critique kind of like... I don't know, man.
It's cool.
It's cool.
I'm writing it down.
I'm not familiar with it.
Yep.
lydia smith
You familiar with it? No. I'm not familiar with it.
tim pool
Catherine Freeman says, have you heard of Jo Jorgensen? I think you'd really agree with a lot of what she has to say.
Jo 2020. Yeah, she's running for the, she's a Libertarian nominee, isn't she? Yep. Amazing. Never heard of her before
unidentified
then.
lydia smith
Thank you.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
I mean, it's a common point that's brought up.
I forgot what I was going to ask on something you talked about on Friday, but I forgot.
So take my money anyways.
Y'all are awesome.
lydia smith
Appreciate it.
tim pool
Thank you.
Cool.
Daniel says, enjoy escaping New Jersey.
Thanks again for the wastewater treatment plant workers acknowledgement in your recent
video.
No women operators at my plant.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
I mean, it's a common point that's brought up.
You know, feminists all talk about how they want to be.
They want to be CEOs.
Yeah, but they don't want to be, you know, waiting around in sewers.
And you know, this is a point like, you know, yeah, I know people who have done that.
adam crigler
Yeah.
Or garbage persons.
lydia smith
Garbage peoples.
adam crigler
Garbage people?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Nobody wants to be called a garbage person.
You're a garbage person.
lydia smith
Well, that's not nice.
tim pool
Yeah, I know.
It's actually an insult, isn't it?
lydia smith
Yeah, it is.
tim pool
That's not fun.
People do their... This is an important job, man.
lydia smith
Right, it is.
tim pool
Man, I couldn't imagine what life would be like if they didn't come every, you know, once a week and take that trash away.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh, we'd be drowning.
tim pool
Seriously.
The Buzz says, I lost all respect for Jimmy Fallon after he apologized for having Trump on his show.
Yeah, that was so dumb.
adam crigler
He apologized for having Trump on his show?
lydia smith
He was humanizing Donald Trump.
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
Didn't Colbert do it?
Didn't Colbert have him on?
lydia smith
I don't remember.
tim pool
And they were treating him like a normal guy?
adam crigler
He said, I'm sorry for it also?
tim pool
Yeah, something like that, yeah.
People are nuts.
And it's like, didn't he grab his hair?
lydia smith
He did, he touched his hair.
tim pool
To prove it was real.
And everyone's clapping and cheering and loving it.
adam crigler
That's kind of funny.
tim pool
Yeah, I know.
unidentified
It is.
adam crigler
But he is a human.
Do they not recognize this?
lydia smith
I guess not.
tim pool
They don't care.
Orange man bad.
unidentified
Yikes.
tim pool
It's all that matters.
James let's see says it's a bit of a drive But upstate SC is doing pretty good as far as climate goes with the mountains blocking a lot of the really bad weather Made a mono red commander deck with heartless.
Was it hit hit hit it sugo.
adam crigler
Yeah He has deck hit tab it and each player loses half their life.
tim pool
Oh Whoa!
It's straight red?
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Wow.
With aggro, how much does it cost?
adam crigler
I'm 95% certain that's what it is.
I'm pretty sure that's... It's like a six drop or something.
But late game, that's... Well, if you're playing aggro... There's many, many ways, though, to, like, well, no, to do it once and win instantly.
tim pool
There's combos that you can use, so... Talbot Link says, I imagine recording the Twitter experience would be like the soundtrack of hell, all the more reason to do it.
Gentleman Kaiju says, just wanted to thank you for your work.
I'm also politically homeless and you make me feel less alone and not crazy for having a different opinion.
Yeah, right on, man.
Mike NYC says, waiting for Chris Rock to say something about Jimmy.
Oh yeah, I'd like to see that.
Red Bike Master says, have you guys started building your immunity to hydroxychloroquine yet?
That meme was amazing!
Matthew, thanks for the super chat.
Wolf Spain says, Hey Tim, Lydia, and Soy, Jesus, would the lack of emotional intelligence cause much of the modern problems and confrontations we have today?
And how do we break that platform?
Or how do we break that problem?
I don't know.
adam crigler
Yeah, I think so.
There's a big part of that, that emotional intelligence has a lot to do with it.
tim pool
How do you teach people to be emotionally intelligent?
lydia smith
That's it.
adam crigler
Where do you start?
By talking about it right now.
Right now.
Here we are.
lydia smith
This is what Adam was talking about.
You were talking about how we have to like Go to the bottom and change everything.
We have to change the way we eat, and the way we think, and everything we do.
And you have to change the way you raise your kids, too.
Because schools can't teach that.
adam crigler
Everything.
Everything is messed up.
lydia smith
That's one of the things.
adam crigler
The whole world.
lydia smith
For sure.
Emotional intelligence is essential.
tim pool
All right, let's see, where are we at?
Leapman says, this weekend some guy from Yukon CT cut off some people's limbs.
Whoa, limbs?
He then held my uncle at machete point, took his gun, struck, and tied him up.
Wow, man.
lydia smith
There was a manhunt for a long time for him.
tim pool
Then he proceeded to kill one more and steal a Volkswagen.
Yikes, dude.
I hope everybody's okay.
I mean, obviously not everybody's okay, but... Jeez.
unidentified
Oh, man.
lydia smith
I hope they catch him.
tim pool
Ricky Tabby says, You need to interview Kurt Doolittle or John Mark.
What is it?
Properitarianism?
Properitarianism.
Ideology is very spicy and seems to be catching on.
Interesting.
Morph1 says, Heard you guys talk about the Witcher game.
Try the third one.
Best RPG I've played in a long time.
You ever played it?
No, me neither.
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
I played it for like 15 minutes and then stopped.
And then it just never felt like picking it back up.
adam crigler
I don't know why I never played the Witcher games.
They look like something I would like.
tim pool
Vulcan says, any advice for a beginner just getting into skateboarding?
Have been using a longboard previously for transportation, but would like to get into tricks.
adam crigler
You can get a longboard that is good for tricking.
tim pool
I guess if you want to do shortboarding, the only advice I have is to watch skate videos.
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
Watch skate videos.
You really get inspired by, you know, seeing other people do stuff.
adam crigler
The best advice, though, is to go get the skateboard and just start riding it.
The more you do that, the more comfortable you're going to get, and then that's it.
It just takes, you know, dedication, as most things.
Just practice, practice, practice.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
All right, let's see where we're at.
Mavros says, as a person from Portland, Portlandia is both inaccurate but too accurate at the same time.
GA says, NY local news gave Dog Park Karens more time than the Long Islanders wanting accountability for their nursing homes.
Really, this is the media.
I know, man, I can't believe we talked about it.
Like everyone, I mean.
adam crigler
It's ridiculous.
tim pool
Christian Robertson says, love you guys.
Best trio ever.
Wanted to ask, what's your plans after all this COVID stuff?
Traveling?
You should visit Norway sometime.
If you come to Storfjord in northern Norway, I have a hotel there and you can stay for free.
I mean, yeah, maybe Adam might pop up there.
lydia smith
That's amazing.
adam crigler
I've been to Norway.
tim pool
I've been to Bergen.
Wait, I did a, this is crazy, I did a documentary.
Mini, a short, on the Ice Woman of Norway.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
We talked about it.
Yeah, we did.
It was about this woman who mysteriously died.
The video was removed from my channel.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
It was gone.
lydia smith
That was weird.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
I have no man- I knew!
lydia smith
Mystery deeper.
tim pool
Just one day, I was trying to find it to show somebody, I'm like, hey look at this thing I did when I was in Norway, and it was gone.
And I looked through everything and it was just not there.
lydia smith
Yeah, you were trying to show me.
And I was like, oh my gosh, it's gone, what?
tim pool
And I certainly didn't get rid of it, I would have downloaded it.
adam crigler
That's weird.
tim pool
You know?
So, it's, yeah, it's just gone.
That's weird, dude.
All Metal Mike says, Attack of the Karens, the new sci-fi movie.
That would be a funny movie.
Mark says, last late night host I watched was Craig Ferguson.
Even my wife watched him.
Her favorite since he left.
It's all cringe crap Trump hating nonstop.
lydia smith
Totally.
adam crigler
Craig Ferguson was funny.
lydia smith
Oh man.
adam crigler
I've only seen his show a couple of times, but I always was like, this guy's good.
lydia smith
I loved him.
tim pool
Now it's all, it's just orange man, late night with orange man is bad.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Huey says, remember when Justin Trudeau black faced?
LOL.
Yeah, we do.
lydia smith
Yeah, for sure.
tim pool
Blackguard says, BF outrage today forgets what BF originally was.
A way to mock an entire race while denying a job on stage.
Exactly.
Modern blackface typically is a way to parody an individual or to cosplay a character out of respect.
These two things are not the same.
Completely agree.
I'm not saying you should even do the other one.
I'm just saying to act like the same thing is completely absurd.
TheGreyGamers.
Feminists, the girl in school that cries and runs to the teacher after the boys sing, the girls go to Jupiter to get more stupider chat in high school.
P.S.
The word is censored on Super Chat.
Oh, whoa, it is?
Feminists is censored?
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Wow, that's weird.
I guess you can't super chat the word feminist.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Pepperoni says, my name is Commander Poole and Trump is, and this is where he goes on to say that his favorite president is Trump.
He says his schedule has changed and now he can shame non-gamers for, I don't know what this is, Memorial Day was yesterday.
Appreciate it.
Gaddock says, hope you all are well.
You all seem to be the only rational journalists I can find.
I'm taking We Are Change University to try and help there be more journalists like you.
Hoping the best.
unidentified
Oh, cool.
tim pool
Appreciate it.
Paulo says hey y'all love your channel. Keep keep up the amazing work
Snafu says spray tanning will be called orange face tanning eventually and it'll be an insult to trump and his family
Andrew holker says everybody in minneapolis is protesting tonight both sides
Absolutely hate mspd who has been notoriously bad for years Wouldn't be surprised if this boiled over into something
similar to the la riots. Wow, man. Oh, man both sides though
I mean, i'm I I am like when the ahmed arbery thing happened. I was actually disappointed conservatives were
jumping on the bandwagon With this story though in this video so far. I gotta admit
i'm actually inspired to see unity from like every faction Conservative, Libertarian, Progressive, Liberal, everybody's like, yo, dude!
lydia smith
Thousands are marching.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
Yeah.
Rubber bullets.
tim pool
Really?
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Man, I hate when that stuff happens.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I wish they didn't have to do that stuff.
Like, whatever, whatever.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
TheGreyGamer says, the blackface was so good they only noticed it was him now.
lydia smith
That's pretty impressive.
tim pool
Napalm says, heard about a millennial that got angry at a picture of blackface at a dinner?
It was an old black and white picture of coal miners.
Yeah, I remember that.
Redwall says, on your take on social media, did you see the YouTuber ChrisMD and how he posted edited soccer videos on Insta?
He got hundreds of thousands of views, all shock generating content that are all fake.
Wow, I didn't know that.
Brandon Lynn says Tim love you all. Quick thought, let me get yours. If Hillary Clinton was elected over Trump, there
would be no pandemic.
lydia smith
Yep, we would all be dead.
tim pool
I don't know.
Who knows what would have happened.
Because she could have done something different.
Patrick says, cancelling is because our names are on social media.
That's for sure.
Jim Wattari says, the running of the Karens.
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
Mind the Gap says, social justice boredom.
Great.
ROFL.
Adam, you rule, my friend.
adam crigler
Thank you very much.
tim pool
Derby Danger says, no read.
Oh, okay.
I'm not going to read it, I guess.
Thanks for the super chat.
Mark Taylor says, now this is the gutter trash of Facebook.
Cements, loving the Karen analogies, hail the beanie!
Wonderful.
And we might have custom beanies coming soon, too.
We'll see what happens.
Paulo, thanks for joining.
adam crigler
No, no, they're coming.
tim pool
They are coming.
Definitely coming, 100%.
They're coming.
lydia smith
Not sure when, yeah.
tim pool
Paulo, thanks for joining.
Tom Bowersock says, Tim's channel is pictured on the Google App Store page for the BitChute app?
Wait, what?
lydia smith
Whoa, really?
Oh, cool.
tim pool
No, wait, wait, wait, no.
No, no, no, that's not cool at all.
lydia smith
No?
tim pool
Like, the BitChute app is showing my channel?
lydia smith
Oh, you're right, that's, what the heck?
tim pool
On the Google App Store?
lydia smith
Let's see.
tim pool
Can you look that up?
lydia smith
I am looking it up now.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
I would delete my Bitchute channels if that was the case.
lydia smith
Oh, snap.
tim pool
Yeah.
Leilin Kyrie, thanks for becoming a member.
Do you see it?
lydia smith
No, I don't see anything yet.
Hold on.
tim pool
Like, I like that they back up my videos instantly, but if they're gonna use my image and everything to market their- They- Okay, so it's like a screenshot of their front page.
unidentified
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
lydia smith
And it happens to have Tim Poole on it.
tim pool
That's fine.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's fine.
I thought someone was saying, like, they used my picture to, like, as their app icon or something.
Like, no way, dude.
Rachel says, Karen's are middle-aged, lefty, and white.
Get it right!
Beverly, thanks for the super chat.
Sebastian says, does anyone remember Hi5, the social media site?
I had one.
My wife just said she had one too.
Sitting on balcony listening to the show and drinking beer.
We love your show.
I got her hooked.
Appreciate it.
Spread the word.
Tell everybody that we are the best podcast.
lydia smith
High five.
No.
tim pool
Yeah, where are we at?
Imperator Phil says, I want a B-grade horror film, Attack of the Karens.
It'll be hilarious.
I'd be totally down.
STFU says, Sheila Brovlovsky from South Park was a Karen, and they made the South Park movie about her starting World War III over kid cursing basically 20 years ago.
lydia smith
Amazing.
tim pool
Puppy on a Train says, have you considered starting a backup channel called The Timming Pool?
No, but there's no E in my name either.
Shadowfox says, I guess Ellen was in a Mexican prison to ever sell that nice looking... oof.
JB says, please someone make a shirt of Tim grilling meats on his propane grill as Hank Hill.
The apron must read, I tell you what.
I'll tell you what.
Adactic says, Lydia looks very professional today.
lydia smith
Oh, thank you.
tim pool
Mark Robert Shaw.
Captain Karen, she's the hero.
She's going to take your privilege down to zero.
Don't upset her or you'll find your life is on the line.
Theme song.
Oh yeah, Captain Planet.
Vosh says, Outrages of Karens gather together and all start to blob together into a 50-story tall mega-Karen that stomps on cis white men and yells, Let me speak to your manager.
unidentified
Let me speak to your manager.
tim pool
So loud it shatters windows.
Didactic says, Men can be Karens too.
It's non-binary.
Dan Roland says Twitter equals socially acceptable 4chan with slightly fewer naughty words allowed.
How viable are its competitors for Trump to be that platform's Rogan?
Jeffrey says want to send a Karen into outrage overload?
Show them the show drawn together.
It was more offensive than South Park.
unidentified
Dude.
tim pool
I've never seen that.
There was something that, so Tara Strong is a voice actress and she's like, I'm pretty sure she's like super anti-Trump.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And some controversy happened because the characters she voiced are ridiculously offensive.
Like it's really bad stuff.
Yeah, super, super bad.
Jesse Clark says, drinking every time one of you says Karen.
I think I got a call in sick tomorrow.
Hey man, it was your choice.
adam crigler
That's a dangerous play right there.
tim pool
Ant says, a male Karen is a Dwight.
Anthony says, what do you all think of the voting age being lower to 16?
I think the HEROES Act is trying to do that.
Wait, what?!
lydia smith
What, really?
Alright, I'm googling that.
tim pool
Dude, 16 year olds should not vote.
Alright, 16 year olds shouldn't vote.
adam crigler
That doesn't make sense.
They don't know.
They're gonna vote for whatever their parents tell them to vote for.
lydia smith
Whatever they're feeling.
tim pool
Or not.
They're going to vote for the popular, Democrat, young celebrity type.
That's what they do.
They're going to vote for not responsibility.
adam crigler
Probably.
tim pool
They're going to be like, dude, it's so dumb.
The government should just give people houses.
That's so stupid, you know?
It's like, bro, what?
Dude, where are we at?
Freedom says, have you ever read Lenin's State and Revolution?
It could be written today.
Interesting.
I have not.
Christian, have you guys seen the Twitter fact check on Trump tweet about mail-in voting?
Is that not actually election meddling?
I think it may be.
The Washington Post doesn't just automatically become the arbiter of truth.
Just because they say Trump's lying, it's a difficult position because, yeah, Trump's wrong a lot, but why does Twitter give the authority to a private company to determine what truth is?
Why does Twitter have that authority?
Beverly Lee says, first $10 message didn't go through.
What the internet has done is allowed the Karens to unionize.
Also the plural of Carolines is a cacophony of Karens.
lydia smith
I like that.
tim pool
I like that one.
adam crigler
Not bad.
tim pool
Midland says, instead of Jerry, we can use Sheldon for male Karen.
Q Brother Soulstar says, look up corner store Caroline, epic Karen incident.
Aaron R says, when y'all getting crowder on your show, then they would definitely brand you as far right.
Well, you know, he's got his own show.
You know what I mean?
Logan says, I think racism will stick around, not because anyone is actually racist, but because racism is the easiest thing to get people to rally against.
Saurise, Karen, quote, why aren't you wearing your mask?
Me, you wouldn't ask me that if I was a straight white male.
Out Karen the Karens.
Crackbot says, you will never get rid of racism, it's too profitable.
For sure.
Bro Cody says, in reference to Karens and cancel culture, Maximilian D. Robespierre would bring about the execution of thousands of innocent people before he himself fell victim to the guillotine on July 28th, 1794.
Yeah, yeah, what an idiot.
The Hylian Juggalo says, Tim, yesterday when you talked about how millennials never learned any skills, check the importance of civil society by political juice.
I'd love to see you guys watch it and give your thoughts.
Will do.
Sarah Hill says, these Karens are perpetuating racism and sexism.
They definitely are.
OurFutureMD says, Black guy here.
Yes, the FedEx thing was racist.
If I was working in a neighborhood, it's not your right to stop me and question me like you're the cops.
Well, I think the issue there was that they were on his lawn and he was like, yo, get off my lawn.
But ultimately the issue is, we don't know who started what.
That's why I think it's like, if I just see two people fighting in a video, I'm not going to immediately be like, racism, you know?
Andrew Mason says, Amy Cooper was privilege peacocking.
Basically saying, because I'm white and you're black, that if I call the police, you'll be the one in trouble.
And I agree with that, actually.
Like, she was basically, it sounded like she was making a threat.
You know, like she thought he was going to scare him by saying his race.
Kent says, COVID brought forth an entirely new subspecies of Cairns, once thought to exist only in South Park episodes.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Absolutely.
All right, so I hate to do it, but I think we're gonna have to start speeding things up, because we have much too many Super Chats, and that means we're not gonna get through to everybody, so I apologize.
And actually, maybe we will.
lydia smith
We're doing pretty good, I think.
tim pool
Yeah, we're actually doing pretty good.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, okay, I'm not gonna speed things up.
I'm gonna keep reading everybody, because I think we're doing all right.
We're actually making good time.
Let's see, where are we at?
LaSalle Rimes says, Welcome back.
Looking forward to you guys this week.
Twitter has gone nuts with censorship.
Completely agree.
David S says, Amy Cooper tried to weaponize the police.
That's the problem.
That's the Karen-ing.
That's like Karen's ultimate move.
That's one of the biggest problems.
Oddball says, Never mind about the alive Cooper and Chris Cooper.
The big victim was the dog strangling to breathe, at least.
The dog was the victim and all that.
Oddball says, I meant Amy Cooper.
TheRedBikeMaster says, 200 years is a long time to Americans.
200 miles is a long way to Europeans.
As a U.S.
trucker, I'm extremely familiar with the size of the U.S.
It is big.
Let's see, what does it say?
Bujin.
Skated through the 80s and early 90s.
Love the show.
You guys really mesh well together.
To hell with censorship.
I think we will all end up with a new platform in the future.
Or at least competition.
If competition for YouTube emerges, they'll have to back off.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
And things will get better.
adam crigler
It feels like that's already happening.
tim pool
Especially with Joe's move to Spotify.
Even though Alphabet owns Spotify, I guess, right?
Is that what it is?
Do they?
lydia smith
It's true.
tim pool
Yeah, well, whatever.
adam crigler
Same company.
tim pool
Yep.
Character says he uses treats to flirt with women.
Perhaps.
The Unrepresented says, Karen ha wave.
Karen Karen ha.
Yep, that's Dragon Ball Z, alright.
Michael says, you should interview Mark Mason.
He wrote the subtle art of not giving an F. It would be a good interview.
It would, once this is officially over, the lockdown and everything.
Idjit Idjit says, don't be lazy.
Like the video.
Everybody hit that like button.
It really, really does help.
It's important.
Let's see.
Dakilla Clown.
Oh, that's what it says.
Dakilla Clown.
Karen Hameha.
JT Brown says, Karen solution.
Outlaw Karens and watch them turn each other in.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
The Red Bike Mass says, the FBI is investigating this case now.
Yep.
jacob hill says as an australian i always get a kick out of explaining how big australia is to europeans their jaws actually drop keep up the good work uh tim and co yeah australia is like as big as the united states i'm pretty sure yeah but there's nobody living on the inside for sure right right but it's like massive yeah kyle thanks for the super chat let's see uh pivot pie says the kelly thomas case was horrific the police beat him to death while he was crying out for his dad the fullerton pd got off scott free Man, that was messed up, dude.
That was like the mentally ill guy, I think, too, right?
adam crigler
I don't know anything about it.
tim pool
Jabberwolf says, Question.
Black man dies at hospital.
From what?
Was it his injury or what?
An overdose?
Why would race be an issue?
I don't know.
Would it?
Mike Depew says, Hey, folks.
You should move to near Rutland, Ohio.
We got Skatopia, a 90-acre skate park, amphitheater, and home of the Skateboarding Museum.
Skatopia is awesome.
I would kind of want to build my own Skatopia.
Maybe I'll do that.
lydia smith
That'd be fun.
tim pool
Yeah.
Troy, thanks for the super chat.
Jordan S. says, I feel like the Central Park chick might commit suicide because of this whole thing.
I mean, her life is being destroyed and people are just, like, mocking her.
It's ridiculous.
Like, dude, I get it.
She was nasty, but should her life be completely destroyed over this?
Disproportionate.
Yeah, man.
Come on.
adam crigler
Yeah, right?
Bob.
tim pool
Bobcast 24 Ida says, you hear the story about the husband of the Michigan governor trying to use their position to get their boat ready for the summer, despite the Michigan lockdown?
Oh, yeah, definitely.
DarthZackath says, OMG Tim, on Freddie Gray it came out in trial that he was not nickel-rided.
They tracked the truck through the city via cameras and nothing could be proven.
No way that that wagon knew every camera along the route.
Well, there you go.
Like I said, I'm sure there was updates that I didn't know about.
Graf von Tirol says, funny how stories of police abuse come out of blue cities, ain't it?
Exactly.
That's my point.
It's like, whenever I hear people who are... Actually, someone else, I saw this comment, and we'll probably get to it.
Someone mentioned that the reason conservatives like to defend the police is because small-town cops are actually good cops who are putting themselves at risk to, like, defend the community.
Big cities are full of racism, corruption, cops that just don't care, corrupt cops, like...
That's the point right there.
That's why I'm like, don't defend Michael Bloomberg and stop and frisk.
That was a gun control measure in an urban city gone wrong, and they applied it in racist ways.
Like it's an example of everything wrong with what they claim to be fighting for.
Furby says, Adam, look at Kelly Thomas.
White people don't get covered.
Story like this boil my blood.
You can't restrict breathing and not expect a struggle.
Instinct overrides rational thought.
It's not resistance.
Yeah.
adam crigler
That's a great point.
tim pool
Kelly Thomas was like a mentally ill white dude and they killed him.
It was brutal.
I'm not trying to tell anyone to be a police officer.
I certainly am not.
I've met great police officers, and I know that police officers meet resistance that people might actually have guns, and they're taught that.
So they have to go into situations.
adam crigler
I get that.
I'm not trying to tell anyone to be a police officer. I certainly am not. I've met great
police officers and I know that police officers meet resistance that people might actually
have guns and they're taught that. So they have to go into situations like I get that.
I understand. I'm not trying to tell anyone how to how to do anything.
I'm just giving you my opinion.
tim pool
John Hash says, did you guys see the story of the WWI memorial in Pittsburgh being vandalized?
lydia smith
Yeah, on Veteran's Day.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Was that recently?
lydia smith
Sorry, not Veteran's Day, Memorial Day.
tim pool
Wow, man.
lydia smith
Yesterday.
tim pool
I will also add that I assure you, on this show, if we say something and you disagree, you can comment, you can super chat.
And we'll do our best to get to it.
So you're, you know, typically we've had a series of people who have super chatted saying like, here's why you're wrong.
And we read it out, you know, make sure like we're not here to shut anybody down.
We just said, you know, we have thoughts and you guys do.
adam crigler
And yeah.
And honestly, I, that's part of being a human is, is understanding that you're, you can be wrong.
It's okay to be wrong.
Everyone is wrong at some point and recognizing that and being okay with being wrong.
tim pool
You'll never improve yourself if you refuse to read new information.
adam crigler
That's also part of the issue.
People need to understand it's okay to be wrong.
tim pool
It's okay.
I realize what I need to do.
From now on, when I see a Super Chat that contradicts me, I'm going to say, let me stop you right there.
I don't need to read your idea, okay?
I know... I'm kidding.
lydia smith
Please don't do that.
tim pool
We will read your Super Chats.
John says...
Let's see, Lane, Kyrie, as someone attacked by loose dogs many times, I think he's had that happen before.
A good way to distract a potentially aggressive dog is to throw treats at their face.
Still creepy, he tried to lure the dog away, not okay.
That's a really good point, actually, yeah.
adam crigler
Well, and Central Park, there's many, many people that go through there.
If he lives near Central Park and he goes to Central Park to bird watch, then that makes total sense.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, dude, it's messed up.
says I have personally seen more than one person falsely accused. It can take up to
adam crigler
two years to get a trial. Yeah, dude, it's messed up. I know people personally. Let's
tim pool
say C. Was it C. Collins?
Everyone roasting Adam in the chat have clearly never been to NYC.
A lot of the cops here are prejudiced.
Not all, but enough to where it's a major problem.
One only has to look at how they treated people during the pandemic.
Dude, where we lived, they had floodlights set up surrounding people's apartment complex.
adam crigler
Yeah, patrolling the neighborhoods.
But only those neighborhoods.
tim pool
Exactly.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
They called it occupied.
Like, facetiously, like, it's an occupied neighborhood because the police were on every single corner.
adam crigler
Every single one.
Yep.
tim pool
And so it's like, I look out my window, right across the street, there's floodlights everywhere all the time.
I'm like, it's ridiculous.
adam crigler
I guess people were roasting me.
That's great.
Thanks guys.
tim pool
Junk says, Soy Jesus don't let the worst examples drown out the best of us.
We can call out the real racist and not racialize it.
Paolo Duarte, the problem is the lack of social skills training in the police force.
I think they've tried.
You know, they've done community policing, like you've got the community division in New York, but that doesn't do anything.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
What is it called?
Community affairs?
adam crigler
Yeah, and it's not like I'm saying every single police officer in New York City is a bad police officer.
That's ridiculous.
tim pool
It's this simple, man.
I've explained this to people.
If you live in a small town of several hundred people and a few thousand people, you get pulled over and the sheriff walks into the car and he sees it's Bob's kid and he goes, aren't you Bob's kid?
Yes, sir.
And you're speeding?
Well, I'm gonna be down at the bar later.
I'm gonna see your dad.
It's like, please don't tell my dad.
It's like, well, then don't speed.
It's like, I'm so sorry.
Okay, get out of here.
The kid never speeds again.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Or he's very much more cautious.
In a city, you're not speeding.
You get pulled over.
This happened to me.
I wasn't speeding.
I get pulled over.
And, you know, I do everything right.
Turn the radio off.
Take the keys off.
Pull the keys out.
Put it up.
Put my hands on the thing.
Got my wallet right there.
Cop walks up.
And I say, you know, evening officer.
And he goes, you know, I pulled you over.
I was like, I don't.
And he's like, you were speeding.
I wasn't actually, I was exiting off Lake Shore Drive.
So I was actually slowing down.
He goes, tell it to a judge, license, and gave him my stuff.
He wrote a ticket and said, sign it.
And I was like, but I wasn't speeding.
And he goes, you're signing for acknowledgement of receipt.
If you don't sign it, I'll arrest you.
I was like, okay.
And then I signed it.
And as soon as I did, they suspended my lessons and I wasn't speeding.
Welcome to Chicago.
unidentified
I had, I was, I was, uh, I think that was a quota thing.
tim pool
I just don't think he cares.
Yeah, maybe.
I was sleeping in my car once.
I had, I had, uh, I worked a double shift, I got off, and I had to drive, like, two hours back, and I was drowsy, and I was like, man, I better pull off on a side street.
Pull off on a side street, lean back in my chair, I wake up to a cop putting a ticket on my car.
I wasn't illegally parked.
He just made it up.
And I'm like, I'm like, I look at him as he's doing it, and I'm like, yo, I'm sitting right here, and he goes, oh, I didn't notice.
And I was like, yeah, I just pulled over, I didn't want to crash, and he goes like, Well, you know, you can pay it or you can contest it.
And I was like, whoa, what?
I was like, bro, what?
And he was like, bye.
And that was it.
adam crigler
I mean, I know for a fact they need to meet their quotas.
unidentified
Yep.
lydia smith
Yeah.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Well, they claim they don't have them, but they're lying.
adam crigler
A cop straight up told me.
He straight up looked at me and said, I need to fill my quota.
He was giving me a ticket for skateboarding.
Oh my gosh.
What?
tim pool
Because they make money.
It's like part of their budget.
There was a funny thing that happened in New York where they were facing a budget shortfall because they didn't have enough crimes being committed.
You know what, man?
It's just so gross, dude.
Alright, let's see where we're at.
Marshall Levine says, I'm in Minnesota.
If there was any question that the cops had done nothing wrong, they'd be on administrative leave.
The PD cut them loose to save the department.
Wow, that's a good point.
Nowell Wayne, it sets a bad precedent to have badly trained cops, definitely.
Joseph says, do you know the difference between police and peace officers?
No, I don't.
Makes sense.
It says, bad cops make the job a lot more dangerous for the good cops.
We have the same problem in the military with idiots turning communities against us.
Totally, totally hear you, man.
adam crigler
Makes sense.
tim pool
Socialism says, Adam and Tim go on LiveLeak.
There are a lot of white deletions on there way more than black.
I don't know, what does that mean?
adam crigler
Delusions or what?
tim pool
Deletions.
Like videos deleted, I guess?
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
So no, this is not racism.
It's division of class and community.
And a lot of the stress comes from gang problems.
I'll tell you what, man.
There's a comic that goes around every so often, and I believe it.
It's a picture of people Outside of a window, holding up signs saying Occupy Wall Street.
And so it's like a guy, it's a guy in a very fancy building, like it's like, you know, gold, like poofy chair at his desk.
And he's like a CEO or something.
Outside the window, you see protesters Occupy Wall Street.
And then he says introduce it.
And then he's on the phone smugly saying introduce them to identity politics.
Oh man.
lydia smith
It worked.
tim pool
Occupy Wall Street had people of all different backgrounds protesting against the big banks, the bailouts, all the problems.
And then all of a sudden a bunch of young people came up and started blaming the white people.
And the conservatives and libertarians were gone.
And then it got taken over by young socialists.
And that was it.
Big Ben says, after Garner became popular to shout, I can't breathe, to try and get a chance to get away, get a crowd to help or to attack the officer.
Doesn't matter.
If somebody can't breathe, you got to make sure they can.
You're taking responsibility for their life.
lydia smith
That would be what I would say if I couldn't breathe.
tim pool
I'm just saying.
adam crigler
The guy's knee was in his neck.
unidentified
And he could have moved.
tim pool
He could have asked for help and said, hey, we gotta move this guy.
I got arrested briefly at a protest in St.
Louis.
The cops cuffed me as tight as they possibly could, and my hands were turning red.
And so, I just kept saying, pardon me, sir.
Excuse me, officer, pardon me.
Until finally, one guy, like a younger guy, who was clearly not a high-ranking dude, I was like, the cuffs are cutting my circulation, would it be possible if you could just loosen them a little bit?
And he was like, oh, I'll see what I can do.
And then the guy in charge walked over, came up, and loosened them a little bit and walked away.
And I was like, I don't know what that means.
All I know is, like, they didn't care when they applied them.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And it can cause permanent damage if they leave them that way.
I was lucky enough that they... But then eventually, like, half an hour later, they came back, and they were like, who are you?
What are you doing?
Oh, I'm a journalist.
They looked at my wallet, and then they took them off and told me to get out.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
Character says, Adam, check out Brandon Tatum on the Rubin Report.
He is a black former cop.
Think you could appreciate his perspective on policing.
adam crigler
Cool, thank you.
tim pool
Emo to Drum says, Jimmy Fallon, Jimmy Kimmel are both trash TV.
Rather they be replaced with any of the TimCast, Tim Pool channels.
Get Kyle Kalinske on your show.
Kyle's awesome.
I'd love to, but, you know, lockdown, so... Sun Cormick says, Tim, the viral video is not from the media.
How can you say it's what the media wants you to see?
Most black brutality is from private citizens' video.
It's because companies like the Huffington Post, Like Vox, like BuzzFeed, and now this, and Al Jazeera, recut them and repost them over and over and over and over again.
So we do see citizens posting these videos, and then you see people's bias play into who gets the video shared or not.
lydia smith
I actually saw, it scrolled across my phone because I got all the app alerts.
I actually saw a headline from, I think it was Huffington Post, and it said she knew exactly what she was doing.
And I was like, I know exactly what you're talking about, and I know what you're doing there, so thanks for that.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
Where are we at?
Where are we at?
We have a bunch of super chats popping up.
Here we go.
Aaron Cowell says, yet the stop and frisk policy did work in London for years until Khan stopped it.
Now it's knife to know you, London.
unidentified
Yikes.
tim pool
Jordan Fowler says, Tim and friends, would you be willing to elaborate further on how your political views have changed, if at all, over the last four years?
I've moved more towards Second Amendment, and that's probably it, to be honest.
Actually, no, I think a little bit less away from universal health care, because I was very much in favor of it.
Now I'm, like, tacitly in favor of it.
I just don't think it's possible.
And the Second Amendment opinion of mine changed, mostly because someone made a comment about the Constitution.
You can't pick and choose which amendments you want to protect.
And I was like, that's actually a really good point, so I'm going to back off on that one.
You know, I don't know.
adam crigler
I don't think I've... mine have changed at all.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
What about... and you're just... I moved a little bit left.
Oh, look at that.
Blue pilling.
All right, where are we at?
Wolfsbane says, As a black man in the South, I'm mad, but I know that this is used to manipulate the community.
It doesn't do anybody good to go into an unbridled rage.
My uncle told me you have to be angry but informed.
That's a good point.
Absolutely.
adam crigler
Be informed.
tim pool
Aaron J says, Must read Starship Troopers.
I'm a day late.
The filmmakers hated the libertarian philosophy of the book, but were forced to make the movie before the studio's option expired and turned it into a joke.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Madden said, there are protests ramping up in Minnesota after an incident last night that resulted in the death of a black man.
The four officers involved were fired, but the family has stated that it's not enough.
I agree, it's not enough.
adam crigler
I agree with the family.
tim pool
Common Core says, we need better ways to steer youths away from gang culture.
That I understand and completely agree with.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
Skateboarding.
Paulo Duarte says, in England, they stop the stop and search and the crime is on the roof.
And they spend millions of pounds in a dedicated police force to control social media.
Priorities, man.
Big Ben says, within reason.
Screw you, Tim.
The Founding Fathers made it clear.
I'm entitled to my 40-millionaire Beaufort's care and free zone for kilometers.
adam crigler
All right.
tim pool
What is this?
Kasperius says, you can say his name, Crowder would approve.
Party says, gamer pride worldwide.
Bloody Bleeder says, black guy here.
Adam, you're way off base.
Get some black guests who have a better perspective.
Larry Elder, Thomas Sowell, Jim Brown, 90s Chris Rock.
We will travel back in time and find Chris Rock in the 90s to bring him.
90s Chris Rock, yeah.
I wish we could get these people, dude, to be honest.
These are like the biggest names, man.
That'd be amazing.
lydia smith
That would be so fun.
tim pool
Chris Rock, that'd be awesome.
It should have said racist white woman then.
racial because she called 9-1-1 and said it was a black man attacking her. She
even feigned an attack on the phone to try and sell it to the police so they
would assault him. Yeah, she totally was over the top. I agree. The Hazmat 221 says
adam crigler
it should have said racist white woman then. Yeah. Yeah. Or like, that's a tough
tim pool
one man, because like everything is framing. Yeah. Like they have to choose
that. Mm-hmm. The Hazmat says if anyone is looking for an amazing fantasy trilogy,
give The Deed of Paxsonarian a try. Truly amazing piece of work that captures
the hero's journey.
John Doe says, confused redlining with blockbusting.
Redlining.
Banks would draw a line around black areas and deny loans for those houses to keep black buyers out.
Also look up covenant communities.
Yeah, it was really bad in St.
Louis, man.
They created towns and then passed laws saying no houses could be built specifically to keep out racial minorities.
adam crigler
It's messed up.
tim pool
Yep.
Jake Daniels says, Aussie 4x4s spend days helping people get unbogged.
Sun Cormack says, America before Graham Hancock talks about how the world was conquered by Africans in ancient times.
A lot of people don't realize that there were big empires.
There was Shaka Zulu.
I don't know a lot about the history, but they were powerful people.
Zik Shi says, Ironically, I live closer to the South.
And after this podcast, I think the South have more racially tolerated people than those in the North.
But it's a different kind, right?
The people in the North are like looking for white supremacists, but they are racists, like hardcore racists.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Nick Adam says, calling everyone by their slur is a great equalizer.
Take the power out of those words.
As I type this, I hear Tim say, lazy.
There's an insult.
There's something we need to promote as an insult.
Socialism says, when you bash cops all the time in media, how many good, God-loving people would say, hey, I want to get beaten down all day?
Nobody.
So you get bad people looking for power in a gun.
We need to support and show the good cop.
It's tough, though, because it's a never-ending cycle, you know what I mean?
adam crigler
Well, and the media just puts up all the bad stuff.
We don't hear stories.
I mean, I have seen them in the past, but they're few and far between.
It's always the bad stuff.
That's all it is.
It's glorified.
tim pool
Sam Beasley says the GOP made a new attack ad.
It is currently unlisted.
Shadowbanned.
I have no ability to share it.
You do.
I can't click links, though, in the Super Chat, unfortunately.
Let's see, where are we at?
No way, I'm not going back to Chicago.
Chicago's so dirty.
Yeah, I'm good.
Chicago's so dirty. Yeah, I'm good. Katie says Adam. Please get a grip you're running on emotion only
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
Hmm, okay, but I mean we're having a discussion Yeah.
So I mean, if anything, you guys with your super chats are providing it with new information.
So I think it's working out, right?
adam crigler
Yeah, that's that's the whole point.
It's like, sure.
A few people have already said some things.
It's like, I'm only I'm only as good as what I know and what my opinion is.
And that's all I'm here giving.
I'm not like laying down some law or anything.
It's just like, it's what my experiences are, the people I know, and I'm just giving it to you.
tim pool
Imagine if this is what political discourse was like.
adam crigler
What, actually just talking?
unidentified
That'd be amazing.
tim pool
Like, someone's like, Adam, you're wrong.
I think you need to look at this, and you're like, oh, I'll look into that.
Thank you.
adam crigler
Yeah.
That's so emotional of me.
tim pool
Thank you.
Thank you.
Well, you got heated for sure.
Sure, definitely.
I like the comments from a few minutes ago.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
tim pool
But I think, like, in the end, it's like people make their points, and you're like, right on.
adam crigler
Yeah, but it's like, I don't scream and hate these people.
It's like, okay, I will do some more research.
I fully admit that I don't know everything and need more research.
We always do.
tim pool
The left will be nothing but Karens.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, the regular people who at once, like, once believed they were on that side are being attacked for it nonstop.
Like, I'll tell you what, man.
I'll tell you what, man.
If you, if you said something, you know, that would like, like, the people being like, Adam, you should consider this.
Go to, like, a college campus and say something and they'll start screaming.
adam crigler
Probably.
tim pool
And shaming you and yelling and calling you a Nazi and accusing you of things.
adam crigler
It's weird, bro.
Yeah.
tim pool
All right, where are we at?
I don't know.
I wouldn't go that far to say Adam's suffering from white guilt.
Yeah, I don't know where that came from.
communities should be pointed out without the wing without the white guilt
Adam seems to suffer from. Encourage fatherhood in minority communities.
I don't know I wouldn't go that far to say Adam suffering from white guilt.
adam crigler
I don't think you can. Yeah I don't know where that came from.
tim pool
Logan Porter says Tim you brought up that small government people support
police and big government people don't like police.
I think it's because the police and small town government aren't quote, the police.
It's Al from down the street.
Exactly.
That was the, that was the point I was highlighting earlier, referencing your super chat.
That when you guys know who the sheriff is, when you know who the cops are, like the cop's not going to come kick your door in and, and like ruffle through your stuff, kill you or whatever.
It's going to be like, that's Al from down the street.
You know what I mean?
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
In big cities.
unidentified
Nope.
tim pool
They don't know you.
and they purposely bring in cops from other cities into the city because that way they don't care.
Joseph says, people turning into Karens over Adam's opinion.
Calm down. Hypocrisy is a slippery slope.
lydia smith
That's a good one. Yeah. Yeah.
tim pool
Kadic says, I love how Tim discusses things to do in his free time. And I'm like,
what free time do you even have, Tim? LOL. Very little.
I can understand the argument about blackness.
All these are wrong.
White supremacist, LaRosa the race, and black power.
And this is one of the things that needs to be brought up is that there are, like, they...
I can understand the argument about blackness.
This was, Zooby brought this up, that when you have people who don't know their history
and don't have a tie to their native country because of the horrors of slavery, then they
unify around the idea of blackness.
And I can understand that 100%.
But still, it's like, that I get.
The social justice people, the white progressive Karen types who are like screeching about white privilege all the time, are making it impossible to actually have sane conversations.
Ryan says, what are your thoughts on the Federal Reserve?
What would it take to get it audited?
Yeah, seriously.
That'll never happen.
Come on.
That's the power system, right?
Would you have an opinion on the Federal Reserve?
unidentified
No.
adam crigler
I don't know enough about it.
I'm tired.
tim pool
Clint says, I don't hear you talk about disc golf much.
Do y'all play?
I'm liking the top 20,000 players.
Oh, haha.
No, I don't, but I was joking.
Maybe we'll throw frisbees.
Colony says, I purposely drive my semi around 8 every day to catch the show.
You guys do such a great job.
Appreciate it.
lydia smith
Oh, thanks.
tim pool
Bronco says, move to Oklahoma.
We're friendly and welcoming.
We'll consider it.
But probably East Coast, man.
Michael says, were it possible, I would have McKennedy's babies.
McKennedy has done an amazing job.
I've been impressed.
Robert says, Epic Sax Guy, track Runaway Artist Sunstruck Project and Olia Tira album equals Runaway.
Eric says, you have a similar 12-string to mine, and I already thought you were cool.
Rock on.
Appreciate it.
adam crigler
It's a pretty guitar.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
We might have to speed up because I think the superchats are coming in faster.
lydia smith
Keep following in, yeah.
tim pool
They're coming in faster.
lydia smith
You are making good progress.
tim pool
And so we're going to speed things up, so I'm not going to get to a lot of the later superchats from the past few minutes, unfortunately.
The Neighbor says, Williston, North Dakota here.
Been listening to your podcast for over a week at work.
For over a year at work.
unidentified
Sorry.
tim pool
Love the new shows.
Soy.
Been trying to cut dairy from my diet at home.
Hard to get vegan food here.
UPS strong.
adam crigler
Just eat a lot more veggies.
tim pool
Veggies.
Stephen says, this Minneapolis issue ties right back into Duncan Lemp.
The police brutality has to stop.
Boogaloo.
Dude, for real.
I'm glad so many people are pushing for the liberty issue on this one.
It's amazing.
Mr. Cooper says, the fundamental problem with politics is every politician is a liar and power always makes people more dishonest and less accountable.
Individuals changing their life and their community is the only way to actually make the world better.
JMJH says, please watch Theo Von White Privilege video.
I promise it's not bad.
And when you were talking about growing up being poor, it reminded me of his story.
Interesting.
Michael McCord says, read Small Town Cops.
Small Town Cops can't disappear in the crowd.
If something happens, their mom probably hears about it before the chief.
lydia smith
Oh yeah.
tim pool
Definitely.
Mr. Cooper says, Tim, would you do truth a favor?
When anarchy is used in news, point out anarchy just means no rulers.
Because I love and care for y'all and everybody else, I do not want anyone to rule over you.
An means without, archy means authority.
So it can be left-wing anarchy, right-wing anarchy.
That means economic.
Xavier, thanks for joining.
Jesse says, Tim, I think cops' pensions should be the one to pay for settlements instead of our tax dollars.
That way they think and or fellow officers are incentivized to hold each other accountable.
That's one way to do it.
Or they have insurance or something like that, but definitely.
AlternativeJK90 says, I follow many cops on Instagram, and I am thrilled to see them call out the MPD officer's actions on George Lloyd.
In fact, one officer I followed, TheRealJumpManJay, shares a good insight on the case.
Glad to hear it, man.
SunCormack says, I value Adam's opinion, literally.
And is that a rocker hand sign?
Like, rock on.
unidentified
Rock on, brother.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
All right, man, if you haven't already, smash that like button, or lightly tapped it.
Do so now, because we went almost, we went a half an hour over for all of you, because we love you so much.
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lydia smith
We have it.
adam crigler
You don't even know who did it I don't know.
tim pool
Well, there's a name on the box.
I'm not gonna say them, but thank you very much We got a bunch of camera gear We're going to film some cool stuff in the yard, man.
We need a building, because I'm really trying to expand and do a fact-checking news aggregator.
I think I might set it up as a non-profit, though, and have it just be a fact-checking thing.
unidentified
Cool.
tim pool
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adam crigler
Yeah, definitely.
tim pool
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SourPatchLids.
SourPatchLids, L-Y-D-S.
lydia smith
Very clever.
tim pool
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I think, what day is today?
We'll be back tomorrow, right?
lydia smith
We will be back tomorrow.
tim pool
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Thanks for hanging out.
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