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May 25, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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TimcastIRL - My Friend Went SJW Crazy, Hypocrites Break Civil Rights Law, Oh And Happy Memorial Day
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adam crigler
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tim pool
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lydia smith
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tim pool
How's it going everybody?
Welcome to the Memorial Day special episode of the TimCast IRL podcast.
My name is Tim Poole.
I am hanging out with my friends.
adam crigler
Hey, what's up, everybody?
It's Adam here.
How you doing?
Thanks for coming.
Appreciate it.
lydia smith
And me, producer Lydia.
I'm here as well.
tim pool
We are hanging out while everyone else is out, I guess, barbecuing, boating, beaching, in defiance of the lockdown orders.
unidentified
Good.
tim pool
There's a lot.
adam crigler
Those lawbreakers.
tim pool
There's a viral video of the Lake of the Ozarks.
Where is that?
Like Missouri or something?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And it's like everybody's just partying like normal.
You know what?
Look, man.
Here's what we're talking about tonight.
We're talking about a lot of things, but I just... I had a friend go completely insane with social justice, lunacy, to the point where these people are overtly breaking the law.
And I'm like, it's the weirdest dogma.
It's religious insanity.
It's funny because, you know, growing up, and I'm sure you guys have probably experienced this to different degrees or in different perspectives, you had the moral authority of the religious right.
Now that's all kind of drifting away into some kind of libertarian right.
Now our society is like, if you're a funny, offensive, freedom-minded, edgy boy, and you want to make your silly little jokes and go about your business, you're right-wing.
But that was South Park.
That was Family Guy.
That was the left before.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
And now the left is dogmatic to a religious degree, and it's freaky.
And these are people that I knew, and it's like, they've lost it.
And you can't even talk to them anymore.
The craziest thing to me is, I remember when I was growing up trying to talk to somebody who was religious.
And I went to Catholic school for the first six years of my grade school.
So I could understand, I could talk about a lot of this stuff.
and i was always you know is rather you know pragmatic and call and we have
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
been a conversations and i'd be like oh here's i think and then mostly when i got older because i was young i was
kind of a kind of a
unidentified
far lefty it's okay yeah i was like i'm so smart i'm smarter than you
adam crigler
and i was like a lot of the left really hasn't changed much up
tim pool
now but this is like an arco punk skater I know, I'm just making a joke.
I was smarter, I was the best.
But yeah, no, no for sure, right?
But to see like, you know, I had this friend message me complete and utter garbage mangled nonsense.
adam crigler
Oh man.
tim pool
And trying to explain to them like why that was wrong was like talking to a diehard religious person, you know, 15 years ago.
And I'm like, wow.
It's like the way they... It's weird because there are still people who view the right the same exact way.
Like they've always been.
I'm like, that's just not the case, bro.
Like, we walked away.
We left.
We're done with this, dude.
That's what we're gonna be talking about.
And we're gonna talk about how this is negatively impacting everything, how it's negatively impacting journalism, Pulitzer Center.
Man, I'm thinking about actually launching my own award for journalism.
adam crigler
I love it.
tim pool
I love this idea.
And dumping mad cash behind it.
I'm talking, like, insane money.
Like, ugh!
Um, we'll see.
So the Pulitzer Prize, I think, is ten grand.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah.
Alright.
adam crigler
Ten times.
tim pool
Well, I don't know how many awards they have for the Pulitzer Prize, but it's like a bunch.
adam crigler
Yeah, but you should just do one prize.
The best, best of the best.
tim pool
I want to do a bunch.
I want to do a bunch.
adam crigler
Legitimate journalism.
tim pool
This is why I like, dude, you know, it's like when I see these stories about people getting all this money, super rich, I'm like, oh, there's so much you need to like, there's people who should have that money.
What I mean by that is like, Joe Rogan, for instance, said that in the New York Times interview with Barry Weiss.
He's like, it feels gross that he made all this money.
And I'm like, bro, hook up some comics.
That's your thing.
Find some comedians, figure out a way to do comedy better online, whatever, and you can do that.
I'm sure he will.
I'm not acting like he's not going to do it.
And that's what I'm saying.
I wish there were more successful journalists, political media personalities who are like, let me throw money behind this.
The Pulitzer Center is supposed to be that.
Anyway, I should save this and before we get off, you know, on a tangent.
We're gonna be talking about a lot of this stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
We're gonna get into it.
adam crigler
Chat's saying it should be the Pulitzer Prize.
It's pretty good.
I see you, chat.
tim pool
I see you, chat.
adam crigler
It's a different word.
tim pool
We got some other stuff.
adam crigler
It's a new word.
tim pool
We got some stuff about Big Tech or whatever.
We're gonna talk about Memorial Day.
I think we got something about, uh... Yeah, we're gonna talk about, like, soldiers dying and stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah, I definitely want to talk about it.
That's what that's what today's about.
tim pool
In a respectful like, you know, looking at all the yeah, Adam, you mentioned like a list of all the, you know, casualties of war and stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, man.
tim pool
So we'll talk about it.
So if you haven't already hopping that super chat, send us some some Memorial Day messages.
We love you guys and hit the like button.
Smash that like button.
Share the video, like, subscribe, whatever you're supposed to do on YouTube.
adam crigler
And I'm going to go ahead and like it right now.
tim pool
Yeah, we're chilling.
You know, it's Memorial Day.
We don't got anything to do, I guess.
adam crigler
Someone can hear, they can hear the hum of that.
Can you turn that off?
tim pool
Of the A?
unidentified
Of the ear?
tim pool
That's amazing.
You got good ears.
adam crigler
Yes, I saw someone asking about it and I'm like, I can hear it too, I think.
tim pool
It's like at negative 40 dB.
That's impressive.
adam crigler
Someone heard it.
They were like, there's some hum.
What is that hum about?
Oh, wow.
That's a big difference.
tim pool
Yeah, but we can hear it, but these are directional mics.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
But yeah, I'm sure a lot of people heard it.
Yeah, it is what it is, man.
Now you can hear the birds.
adam crigler
Maybe.
Can you guys hear the birds?
tim pool
These birds are, like, chilling right on the roof.
They're, like, looking.
adam crigler
They're really pretty.
tim pool
They're looking in the window and they're going like...
They're like, Tim's recording, quick!
Anywhere else.
We have a robin in the backyard now.
It's like a fat, egg-filled lady robin.
adam crigler
Oh, dope.
tim pool
And she stands on one of those garden things and just like yells all day.
I'm like, all day.
adam crigler
I haven't seen her.
tim pool
You walk out and she's just like there, and she's like, and you're like, she's not doing anything.
adam crigler
Like, no, no, no, I don't think I'm your type.
Sorry.
tim pool
Like, why doesn't she move?
lydia smith
Literally not your type.
She's guarding her nest.
tim pool
Garnet, is that what she's doing?
lydia smith
Yeah, so her nest is like right under the porch.
adam crigler
She's yelling, come at me, bro.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's exactly what she's doing.
tim pool
There was like a hawk or something flying over a big one and a bird attacking it.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, I went on the deck and I looked up and it was just like flooding around and like chomping at it and pecking at it and I was like, whoa.
I laugh at your feeble attempts.
adam crigler
probably went to attack the nest already. And the other bird was like
uh-uh. Yeah. And was probably having an aerial battle. Yeah it was. But the hawk was just
tim pool
like... in nature. It was just flying. It didn't flinch.
The other bird was like attacking it. And the big one was like... Yeah the hawk's
like, heh, okay. Yeah. I laugh at your feeble attempts.
Oh oh oh. I could eat you if I wanted. Yeah man.
So, uh, I guess let's just, uh, let's just jump into talking about hypocrites breaking civil rights law, man, and this weird... SJWs.
SJWs.
adam crigler
They really know how to scream.
Are we free, I guess?
tim pool
We'll start with this.
We'll start with this tweet right here.
Sure, yeah.
unidentified
Let's go with that.
lydia smith
Here we go.
tim pool
The Pulitzer Center.
For those that aren't familiar, the Pulitzer Prize is... it's for journalism, but it's also for, like, writing and stuff, too.
I think it's nonfiction.
I think they do fiction, though.
Yeah, I think they give you awards for a lot of stuff.
And it's, like, you get this little... I don't know if they give you a physical award.
I think you do.
You get, like, this brass thing with, like, a guy's face on it or something.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And they give you ten grand.
That's my understanding.
And they tweeted this, and they're getting ratioed.
Now, I might point out, the ratio is relatively small, because nobody cares about the Pulitzer Center, for the most part.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But it says, we recognize that our mission to raise awareness of underreported global issues through journalism and education can only be achieved by actively cultivating diversity, equity, and inclusion in our work internally and externally.
Read our full statement here.
No, I'm not gonna read your full statement for your religious proclamation.
I'm not interested.
But it is a bummer, because this is like a direct statement of like the core of journalism being like, we have adopted religious dogma at the core of our mission.
And now I've seen some journalists say that they've basically warned you, if you want to win an award, you have to do this.
You have to say these things.
And then, you know, the 1619 Project?
adam crigler
I've heard of it.
Yeah, we've talked about it a bunch of times.
tim pool
You know about it.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, basically it's fake news.
They made some stuff up.
Like, it was all made up, basically.
lydia smith
Fake history.
tim pool
Yeah, so for those that aren't familiar, it was basically the New York Times wrote a series of essays written by people who just made stuff up.
They said that America was like a slavocracy, that everything in American history was designed to perpetuate slavery.
None of this is true.
It's like historians came out saying, what is this?
unidentified
Who wrote this?
tim pool
This is ridiculous.
Like, it's not true.
In fact, a lot of the founding fathers They could have done better, I'll tell you what.
But they directly opposed slavery from, you know, before even the inception of the United States.
And I was reading about it.
They said that the only reason slavery was allowed, was permitted within this new country was because they didn't have the support to defeat the British in a revolution without certain states that had slaves.
So I'm not a fan of that.
That's like, you know, it seems like you're willing to sacrifice your principles for power.
I don't like it. But, hey man, look. The Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, these have
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
been tools for dismantling oppression. And now we're coming to a period where the pendulum
is just swinging all the way in the other direction.
adam crigler
Seems like it, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah. Now it's, like we were mentioning earlier, the left has become this dogmatic religious
entity.
But the problem is, it was like a buildup where liberals were the left in this country for a long time.
They took over, you know, inherited a lot of institutions, journalism, media.
Rural outlets started, you know, decaying due to the internet, like smaller papers and stuff.
And now that urban liberals dominate this, they're all being replaced by religious zealots.
So it's like all of a sudden you wake up one day and a cult owns your mainstream media, owns your video gaming.
It starts manipulating and you're watching them stick their tendrils into it.
adam crigler
Even like small town businesses are being taken over.
Walmart, you know, Home Depot, like they're adopting.
Well, no, they're, they're, I mean, I'm, I'm just making a comparison.
It's the same kind of thing.
It's happening across the board, you know, like the weird, just people taking over.
tim pool
You know what it is?
I think it's the natural progression of civil rights law.
But now it's gone to a point where it's overtly breaking civil rights law.
For those that are curious about the headline, I have more than one friend, and I can see these people that I knew have, dare I say, have lost it.
It's like, how do you get someone out of a cult?
And it's funny because they message me saying things like, what happened to you, man?
And I'm like, nothing, literally nothing.
Nothing happened to me.
adam crigler
I'm the same exact way I've always been.
tim pool
I had some people that I knew from Vice come over.
They're like, we're hanging out.
And they're saying this insane stuff.
And I'm like, what changed for you guys?
And they were like, what do you mean, man?
Like, you know, they're looking at me saying that I've changed, my content's changed.
And I'm like, let me ask you a question, man.
Think about an article Vice would have written 10 years ago.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Think about an article Vice would write today.
Like, come on.
adam crigler
I don't know Vice anymore, so I can't even think of something that they'd write.
tim pool
They wrote an article that said, this horrifying app can show you any woman topless.
Because what it would do is you take a picture, and then it would Photoshop it instantly to take the shirt off.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And I was like, here's the article, right?
And they're like, yeah.
And I'm like, would Vice have written this 10 years ago?
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
And they're like, no.
And I'm like, right.
So you look at me, And you're like, you changed, man.
I'm like, no I didn't.
I went to work for the company in what year was it?
It was 2012 is when I started talking to Vice.
2013 is when I got hired.
And that was around the time things started to change.
I went to go work for the company that would write offensive comments and content and do gross things like take a dump in a jar and leave it festering in the back of the building.
They actually did that.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, there's weird stories about the things they used to do when they were edgy and punk rock.
Like really weird stuff.
And then they all of a sudden just became infected by this stuff.
And I'm like, you guys don't understand what you say and what you're doing.
Regular people don't like it, you know?
adam crigler
Yeah, regular people.
tim pool
So it's like, you think about policy-wise, and I'm like, here you are advocating for, for one, violating the civil rights law.
When they do posts where they're like, we're only hiring, so in like the UK they do this thing where they say they're only hiring BAME.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
What does BAME stand for?
adam crigler
Never even heard of it.
lydia smith
I'm not sure.
tim pool
But that's the word, right?
lydia smith
Let me look it up.
tim pool
Yeah, it's like, uh... BAME.
adam crigler
B-A-M?
tim pool
Yeah, B-A-M-E.
BAME.
Yeah, it's like something African and Minority Ethnic, I think.
lydia smith
Black Asian Minority Ethnic.
tim pool
There you go, Black Asian Minority Ethnic.
And in the United States, that's illegal.
Outright.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
There's some exceptions.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah, so if, like, if someone came out and said, I'm looking to hire for this job, but you have to be this category.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
That's totally illegal.
adam crigler
Makes sense.
tim pool
And so the civil rights movement was built to stop people hiring based on identity.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And we pass a law saying you can't do this anymore.
And now they're doing it.
Now the people who claim to fight against it, they're the same.
It's like, you're like, it's like the pendulum swinging the other direction.
adam crigler
Yep, that's all I was thinking.
The pendulum swings.
tim pool
They're trying so hard to be not racist that they're racist.
Or does it not even swing the other way?
Maybe it just swung back.
Maybe the pendulum swing really is like, racists, freedom.
Racists, freedom.
And it doesn't matter what the core ideology is if they're just overt racists.
Yeah.
adam crigler
The Pulitzer Prize seems just like it's become a participation trophy.
Like, oh, you did an awesome article about SJW stuff.
Here you go.
You win one.
unidentified
You wrote a good sermon for the... For the SJW population.
tim pool
Yeah, the Church of Inclusion and Diversity.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And the definitions keep changing.
Like, this is funny, James Lindsay is a... Is James Lindsay a professor?
He's a professor, right?
unidentified
He is.
tim pool
Yeah.
And do you know what the Sokal Squared hoax is?
adam crigler
No idea.
tim pool
You're gonna love this, bro.
adam crigler
Oh, man.
tim pool
And I know a lot of people listening probably already know this, but if you don't, you're gonna love this.
So Peter Boghossian, James Lindsay, and Helen Pluckrose, the three masterminds of what's called Sokal Squared.
Peter Boghossian is, what is he?
He's an associate professor of philosophy, I think?
lydia smith
No, he's a math teacher.
tim pool
He's a man?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
No, Peter Bogosian.
lydia smith
Oh, sorry, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, James Lindsay's a math teacher, right?
lydia smith
I was gonna say, yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
They wrote fake academic articles, published them, or submitted them and got them published in prestigious academic journals.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Now, first, they wrote one called, what was it, like, they wrote, where are we getting feedback now?
What's going on with that?
adam crigler
Yeah, I hear that.
lydia smith
There we go.
adam crigler
I don't know if they can hear us.
tim pool
I think it's just us.
lydia smith
It's just us.
tim pool
All right, hold on, hold on.
I don't want to bear the lead.
Go ahead.
They wrote about rape culture in dog parks.
adam crigler
In dog parks?
tim pool
Dog parks.
Okay.
I think that one got picked up.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
Here's the best one.
They took a section out of Mein Kampf and they changed certain proper nouns to feminist buzzwords.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And it got published.
adam crigler
Wait, what's Mein Kampf?
tim pool
That's Hitler's book.
adam crigler
Oh, jeez.
tim pool
Yep.
Okay, and it got published.
adam crigler
That one did get published.
So that's some professional troll work right there.
tim pool
And they got attacked for it.
They were trying to prove a point.
Yeah, the point was that social sciences has been totally dominated by dogma.
That if you just adhere to the dogma of the social justice rhetoric, they'll publish anything.
It's like, man, could you imagine this?
This is what's crazy.
Cause I had my complaints with the moralistic religious right when I was growing up, but they couldn't add pages to the Bible.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
You know what I mean?
It was like, the Bible was there.
adam crigler
Imagine if they could though.
tim pool
Like today we're putting a new chapter right in the back.
And that's what we're getting with social justice.
adam crigler
Isn't the end like the end of all times?
I don't know the Bible at all.
Isn't Revelations, is that in the middle?
tim pool
But that's not the end of the world.
adam crigler
I thought it is.
tim pool
I think you guys are wrong.
adam crigler
I certainly don't have anything, I don't know the Bible at all.
Yeah, you know.
I would trust her.
And I'm right.
So couldn't go then, they'd have to fit it in before that.
Right before the end, all this new stuff will happen that we're gonna declare.
tim pool
Not about what will happen, just like new rules.
lydia smith
Leviticus 8,926.
tim pool
Old Testament.
adam crigler
Well, how often do you think that?
That had to have happened, though, in real life.
They actually had to add stuff and create new things.
tim pool
I mean, I don't know a whole lot about the history, but I'm pretty sure there was, like, something like Council of Rome or something.
Do you know about this?
lydia smith
Council of Nicaea?
tim pool
Is that what it's called?
lydia smith
They went through and they, like, edited some of it.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, come on.
What is that all about?
lydia smith
I know.
tim pool
The word of God isn't good enough here.
It's good enough here.
So anyway, the point is the King James Bible has been the same and for all of my arguments with the people I grew up with who are religious, I knew what I was arguing against.
Now they just keep changing everything.
Now it's like, look, James Lindsay said, I'll kindly add some expanded clarity on these continuously evolving definitions for you.
What does that even mean?
But he's right.
adam crigler
Well, they keep changing stuff.
tim pool
Look at this.
Diversity.
What does it mean?
Diversity means more than just acknowledging and or tolerating difference.
Diversity is a set of conscious practices that involve understanding and appreciating interdependence of humanity, cultures, and the natural environment.
Practicing mutual respect for qualities and experiences that are different from our own.
Understanding that diversity includes not only ways of being, but also ways of knowing.
Recognizing that personal, cultural, and institutionalized discrimination creates and sustains privileges for some, while creating and sustaining disadvantages for others.
Building alliances across differences so that we can work together to eradicate all forms of discrimination.
Now, as far as I'm concerned, this whole thing is like the new nobility.
That's what it is.
And they want to maintain their class power by claiming that they're advocating against their class power.
But they're not.
They're establishing it.
unidentified
Right?
adam crigler
Okay.
I see what you're saying.
tim pool
A society that says everyone has equal opportunity and merit determines means that, well, of course some people have class-based, you know, advantages.
But when you assert this and you straight up say, white people have privilege, you're establishing that always you as a white person are above, that you're better off.
You're, you're, you're anchoring your position as in the hierarchy above other people.
It's literally what they do.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And they justify it by saying like, but we're going to help those in need.
It's like, nah, you're actually just telling people that you're smarter and better than them.
You know?
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
And now it's in journalism, and it'll be everything.
You know, I think we were talking about how this stuff is kind of drifting away when COVID happens.
adam crigler
It felt like it for a while, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, and now that COVID's going away, this is coming back.
lydia smith
Coming back, yay.
adam crigler
Going away, in quotes.
tim pool
But it is, I mean like, we see those videos of people out partying at the Lake of the Ozarks.
adam crigler
It feels like they're really trying to keep it as long as possible though.
Like, wait, where's COVID?
Can we keep it around somehow?
lydia smith
Can we blame it for something else?
adam crigler
We don't have enough powers, as it is.
lydia smith
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
And for a while, the culture war was COVID.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
It was like, the dogma from the left was the lockdown must remain.
And then the right started saying, no, the lockdown must be lifted.
And like, that was it.
And it was like, what?
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
That was it.
adam crigler
It's a partisan issue now.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
And now what are we dealing with?
We're dealing with like the, uh, the lockdowns backfired.
We've got numerous studies saying it, it, the New York times.
Uh, this is what, this is what my main segment on my, uh, my YouTube, uh, my Tim cast channel was about.
The New York Times said the coronavirus is worse in Democrat counties.
adam crigler
Yeah, I didn't see that video.
We talked about it before you recorded it, though.
It's interesting.
tim pool
If you live in an area where Hillary Clinton won, you are more likely to be negatively impacted by COVID.
adam crigler
I was not expecting to hear that.
tim pool
And so a lot of people immediately say like, oh, well, you know, the Hillary Clinton districts are all population dense.
Doesn't explain Houston and Dallas.
It doesn't explain Japan.
It doesn't explain a bunch of big cities around the world that did not face this.
adam crigler
Well, someone actually tweeted this to me earlier.
They said that you, you talked about, you referenced Japan, the numbers in Japan, and they said that they live in Japan.
They've been there for six years and it's really hard to get tested.
It's really hard to get treatment.
So a lot of the people who have COVID are going unnoticed basically.
tim pool
Sure.
adam crigler
It's hard to get an actual number.
tim pool
Look at the numbers.
So I think the easiest way to assess that is you look at South Dakota, you look at Texas, you look at Florida.
Are their hospitals overrun with COVID patients?
No.
So testing aside, the answer is no.
adam crigler
That actually got me thinking.
Which hospitals were overrun?
tim pool
In New York, there were.
adam crigler
There was?
Yeah, absolutely.
Some hospitals went overrun?
tim pool
Definitely.
I mean, there's videos of this.
adam crigler
And then why didn't they use those extra hospitals that they set up then?
tim pool
Javits was used.
adam crigler
It was used?
tim pool
The Javits Center.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And I'm not sure about the boat.
Was it the Mersey?
adam crigler
The medical boat.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't think it was.
The Javits Center was used, but most of the field hospitals, like 90% or whatever, never used it all.
So, now they're just keeping everything locked down?
adam crigler
So, technically, it was a partisan issue.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Weird, right?
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
Yeah, in many ways.
tim pool
Yeah, so the policies, look, we look at that data and we can't say exactly which policies, we can't say the extended lockdowns were wrong.
So, Texas was one of the last to lock down and one of the first to open, according to the New York Times.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Texas also had almost none of the problems of New York.
New York was one of the first to lockdown, and Washington was one of the first to lockdown, and they had it really, really bad.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then we saw, this is what blows my mind, Andrew Cuomo comes out and does his thing on a daily basis, and he's like, look at this, 66% of people getting sick are at home.
Better extend the lockdown another month, month and a half.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, wait, what?
You're taking people out of the jails and then putting them in the place where they're getting sick?
adam crigler
And then taking sick people and putting them in places where the most potent, people who are going to get it the most, the old people's homes are, that's where they're putting, yeah, the nursing homes.
Like, why would you put, like, of course, those are the people that are getting killed.
Why are you putting people in there?
tim pool
Oh, that was Trump's fault.
adam crigler
Oh right, he blamed Trump for that.
Even though Trump sent over the medical boat for them to use.
Which now I'm finding out they didn't even use.
tim pool
How does that make any sense?
I don't know why they didn't use it.
adam crigler
Is that just their go-to?
Oh, am I being blamed for something?
No, no, no.
Trump did it.
It's Trump's fault.
That's their go-to.
I'm so sick of that.
tim pool
I want the states to reopen.
They'll go, you can't make the states reopen because you don't have the authority.
And Trump goes, I have the authority.
I have supreme authority.
And all the journalists are like, no, you don't.
And he doesn't.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But then when the states are falling apart, they're like, Trump should have locked down sooner.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
It's when the problem, when it's their fault, it's Trump for doing it.
lydia smith
And they need money.
tim pool
But then when Trump wants to change things, they say, you're not allowed to because you don't actually have the authority to do it.
Oh yeah, and they want money.
Oh man, I love it.
Man, they need money.
It reminds me of, you know the greatest story ever told by George Carlin?
adam crigler
It sounds familiar.
I might have heard it, yeah.
tim pool
If you've ever seen the Zeitgeist documentary.
adam crigler
I have, yeah.
tim pool
It opens with him saying, like, the greatest story ever told, and then he talks about religion.
He drags religion.
adam crigler
Oh, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
But then he ends by saying, you know, there's a man in the sky, and he needs money!
And that reminds me of what these governors are doing, where it's like, they've shut down, they've destroyed their economies, they've locked people out of their buildings, they've threatened them with arrest, now that there's no tax revenue coming in, they gotta go to the federal government because they need money.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
They can rag on Trump.
All day and night.
It's all his fault!
lydia smith
Yeah, it's what Phil Murphy's doing.
tim pool
Phil Murphy in New Jersey.
lydia smith
Yeah, so he was like, we desperately need federal funding, and by the way, all our medical professionals are going to run out of work, and we're going to have to fire all the paramedics.
Give us some money!
tim pool
He actually said they were going to fire medical professionals.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
This is the problem I have with the, you know, kind of loop it back in with like the culture where SJW stuff, is I had a friend message me saying the government should provide for everybody.
They should provide for health care and food and cover rent or like a moratorium on rent and evictions while this is happening.
And I'm like, that is such a fairytale view of the world, man.
Yes, the good old government fairy will float down your chimney and sprinkle their little magic cane, and poof!
A cornucopia of fruit and vegetables and bread will pour out, and they'll smile like a Disney movie.
adam crigler
What a lovely image.
tim pool
I like that.
Imagine Uncle Sam, but fat.
With wings.
And he floats in, and it's like Disney animation, and he goes like... Okay, whoa, whoa.
adam crigler
It just now turned into a nightmare.
He got really terrible.
Yeah.
tim pool
My gosh.
adam crigler
I don't want to imagine that.
tim pool
And then when you wake up, he goes, You!
adam crigler
I want you!
Like, you want me?
tim pool
To eat this bread I made!
And you're like, uh, thanks Uncle Sam.
Do you know the government used to give people cheese?
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
Government used to give people cheese, bro.
adam crigler
Government cheese.
tim pool
Real cheese.
adam crigler
Oh, real cheese, not fake cheese, huh?
tim pool
The government used to give people cheese.
adam crigler
I mean, I'll take some chow cheese from the government.
tim pool
No, it was nasty.
It was nasty stuff.
adam crigler
Look at this.
tim pool
Government cheese.
adam crigler
It looks gross.
tim pool
It's real!
adam crigler
One big huge block of cheese.
tim pool
Government cheese is processed cheese provided to welfare beneficiaries.
Could you imagine Ronald Reagan actually coming to your door?
adam crigler
Is it Reagan holding a big block of cheese?
tim pool
Here's cheese, buddy.
You hungry?
unidentified
No.
adam crigler
Not anymore.
tim pool
Is Velveeta the same as government cheese?
You won't soon forget it.
Its flavor was described as somewhere between Velveeta and American.
unidentified
The government made its own cheese and gave it to people.
adam crigler
So they weren't trying to sell it or anything, huh?
tim pool
No, it was like their equivalent of food stamps.
They'd give you a block of cheese.
lydia smith
To source the calories.
tim pool
The government comes down.
So, okay, I'll tell you what.
Maybe if people grew up in the 50s and they got cheese, they're like, the government should give us cheese again!
I demand!
unidentified
Cheese.
tim pool
Remember when they gave us cheese?
adam crigler
I miss those days.
tim pool
I don't know how I'd feel.
adam crigler
Does it come in a cooler?
tim pool
Oh, no, because Velveeta is shelf-stable.
unidentified
Yeah, Velveeta is shelf-stable, huh?
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Nah.
adam crigler
No thanks.
I'm good.
tim pool
Nah.
I mean, it's American cheese.
What do you expect?
adam crigler
I never liked American cheese anyway.
tim pool
Food stamp recipients and the elderly receiving Social Security in the U.S.
got government cheese.
lydia smith
Oh, man.
tim pool
And food banks.
It was processed cheese used in military kitchens during World War II.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tim pool
And it had been used in the schools since the 1950s, so I guess they had too much.
They made a bunch of cheese for the war, and so they were like, give people cheese?
adam crigler
Wait, when were they actually giving away this cheese?
tim pool
In the 50s.
adam crigler
Oh, it was in the 50s.
tim pool
Yeah, in the 50s.
That's crazy, right?
Anyway, back to the main point.
lydia smith
I don't know how we got here.
adam crigler
Random?
tim pool
No, because I'm talking about my friend who's gone completely down the cultist rabbit hole.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And it's shocking to me.
lydia smith
That's hard.
tim pool
That they used to be normal, and then something happened to them.
And it's like I was explaining early on, like, nothing happened to me, dude.
Like, there's a reason I left Vice.
Everyone started going crazy.
I'm very individualistic.
I'm very headstrong.
I know what I'm doing, where I'm going.
The things that I've talked about policy-wise, it's like Bernie Sanders in 2008 or whatever.
He's like, we gotta build a wall!
Bernie, he said border fence or something.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
We need a barrier between this country and Mexico.
Because he and then even recently with the New York Times he said
illegal immigration depresses wages and I'm like these are facts that every Democrat supported
but now they've all gone so far left on this cultist rabbit hole they're like we gotta stop
deporting people and let them work here it's like wait and give them health insurance yeah
adam crigler
Wait, we don't even have health insurance as Americans.
Why are you jumping over to giving other people health insurance?
How does that make any sense?
unidentified
You know the easiest way I can explain it?
tim pool
Have I ever told you about the Tai Chi Hitler stuff?
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
Let me see if I can find this.
adam crigler
Oh, please don't lie to me.
Tai Chi, Hitler stuff.
Tell me about Tai Chi, Hitler stuff.
lydia smith
I'm not sure where this is going.
It kind of makes me uncomfortable.
tim pool
I'm not going to play.
Maybe I should play.
adam crigler
Is it an anime?
tim pool
No, let's pull this up.
Hulk vs. Hitler Finger Family Nursery Rhymes.
adam crigler
Oh, this thing you were talking about the other day.
unidentified
Whoa!
adam crigler
That was loud.
tim pool
We do not want to play that.
adam crigler
My ears hurt.
tim pool
Let's see, let's see.
adam crigler
Sorry if that affected anyone else.
tim pool
All right, there you go.
For those that are watching, we got Adolf Hitler and what looks like some kind of Hulk monster.
adam crigler
It looks like a lizard Hulk.
tim pool
And so what it is, I'm not going to play the audio.
It's really creepy.
Look at this.
unidentified
What is that?
adam crigler
That's like Sasquatch Hulk.
tim pool
Oh, wait, look, here's a green bikini lady and cat woman doing the same thing.
And then a finger comes up with the green lady's face.
adam crigler
What is going... What are we watching?
We are watching... I feel like we just jumped into the SJW hole.
lydia smith
Right.
adam crigler
I don't know if that has anything to do with it.
tim pool
It does.
adam crigler
It feels like we're in a hole somewhere.
unidentified
It does.
adam crigler
Oh, this is Nursery Rhymes for Children.
This is what we were talking about the other day!
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Alright, so listen.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
For those of you that are listening, I'm gonna explain this to you.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
We're looking at this freaky Hulk vs. Hitler 3D animation nursery rhyme video.
And this is the easiest way I can explain to people social justice politics.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So let me explain to you why this video exists.
adam crigler
Please try to explain it to me because I don't get it.
tim pool
Mothers were giving babies iPads.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
They would put the iPad in front of the baby and they would turn on finger family nursery rhyme.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
The original videos are just like Dora the Explorer dancing around and it sings this nursery rhyme, which I'm not going to sing because people get mad at me because I'll get stuck in their head.
Where it like basically names all the fingers.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
YouTube's autoplay algorithm doesn't differentiate between substance.
It only interacts with like, are you watching for a long time?
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And are the keywords relevant, right?
The algorithm at the time, this is several years ago, like just, it didn't work very well.
And so what ends up happening is when a baby is laying in a crib and the iPad is just playing autoplay for hours, First, it'll play a real Nursery Rhyme video.
Then it'll play another real Nursery Rhyme video.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
But then the quality will start to degrade.
This video was developed by people in India who used basically keyword scrapers to figure out what was getting the most plays on YouTube.
adam crigler
And make stuff that would also get hits, basically.
tim pool
Yeah.
And so what happens is after a few runs, the autoplay algorithm on YouTube would play complete garbled nonsense.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Now here's what's funny.
When you look at that as a sentient human adult who is like learned even a little bit, you're like, this is insane.
adam crigler
Yes.
tim pool
But what would happen if someone took an amalgamation of general politics and mashed it all together
and then presented it for you?
It would look real.
To a baby, they can't tell the difference.
They see this, the baby's like, oh, that's just, that's the only thing I know.
So here's what happens with social justice politics.
Facebook started, early on in Facebook's days, a bunch of blogs started popping up,
like Huffington Post, Buzzfeed, and they found that by exploiting Facebook's algorithm,
they could get a ton of shares on their articles But it was completely dependent upon Facebook, people on Facebook clicking share.
Something truly fascinating ends up happening.
A website like Huffington Post will write about a police brutality article.
You know, like some police brutality thing happens.
100,000 shares, they get 10 million views, and they're like, we just made 40 grand off of that one article.
It took you 10 minutes to write?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Write more!
adam crigler
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But then something even stranger happens.
BuzzFeed writes about sexism, and that also gets 10 million, right?
So the algorithm says, sexism, show this more because people share it.
Racism.
Show this more because people share it.
And then a light bulb appeared over Jonah Peretti's head.
Boom!
adam crigler
Booyah!
Making the money.
tim pool
And that's how you get intersectional feminism.
So now on Facebook all of a sudden they started jamming as many things as possible into their articles.
And so intersectionality was the key, man.
It was the obvious outcome of Facebook's algorithmic manipulation.
An article about sexism gets you X views.
An article about racism gets you Y views.
An article about sexism and racism gets you X plus Y views.
adam crigler
All I can think of is that woman talking about Ivanka and how that article just had every different point.
We were like, how did it even go there?
But nope, she was just putting it all in there to hit all the checkboxes.
tim pool
And it might not even be on purpose.
It might be a natural tendency.
So here's what happens.
I mention, when I say Jonah Peretti and BuzzFeed, those are hypotheticals.
I'm using them as examples because this is what they're accused of doing by, like Jeff Jarvis is a professor, and he did some Twitter thread about how BuzzFeed's whole business model was basically using Facebook's algorithm.
When Facebook changed this, they all panicked and lost a ton of money and laid a ton of people off.
But now we end up seeing this tendency occurs, right?
The first thing that happened was this.
Criggler News pops up, right?
A legitimate news source.
adam crigler
Have you heard of Criggler News?
tim pool
Criggler News pops up on Facebook.
adam crigler
It's not a thing, but it could be.
tim pool
So let's say the year is 2007, and someone creates the Crigglington Post.
adam crigler
An interesting twist.
tim pool
Yes, the Criglington Post is straight news.
Straight news.
adam crigler
Yo, only the real news.
That's what we do at Criglington.
tim pool
And so it was articles that were like, today in Syria, 17 fighters approached the U.S.
border and surrendered.
Really, really boring, dry stuff.
At the same time, the Huffington Post pops up.
They both publish articles.
Kriglington News, the Kriglington Post, is straightforward, fair, and objective.
adam crigler
That's right.
tim pool
Robin Post is shock, content, outrage, intersectionality.
Guess which one gets more shares?
Not Kriglington Post, I'm sorry.
adam crigler
No, I know.
tim pool
The straightforward news, people just didn't want it.
adam crigler
We had to go under.
tim pool
So now what happens is the real news goes out of business.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Venture capitalists start seeing Huffington Post and all these companies, and so they're like, let's dump some money into this.
adam crigler
Yeah, let's invest there.
unidentified
It's making money.
Boom.
tim pool
All of a sudden these companies were worth hundreds of millions of dollars.
They're getting crazy investment.
I mean, Vox got like, you know, 200 million.
Vice got like 500 million.
Just, ooh, just dump it all in.
Light it up.
And, uh, this propped up these companies.
Now they were funded.
Something else funny happens.
So you get a company like Vice.
What do they do?
They hire people like me.
They hire a bunch of cool people who know how to do news and do real legit on-the-ground reporting.
They also hire some rage-bait SJW types.
Guess which content gets more money?
So guess who eventually falls off the budget?
adam crigler
That would be you.
tim pool
Well, not me.
I quit.
adam crigler
Right, I know.
unidentified
I left.
tim pool
They probably would have kept me there forever, you know, if I was still there.
adam crigler
Yeah, and pushed you further and further away, though, because you didn't fall in line with what they were doing, you know?
tim pool
No, with Vice?
adam crigler
I don't see you staying there.
tim pool
No, no, no.
With Vice, I was doing everything they wanted.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Yeah, I mean, Vice was developing things around what I was doing.
It's complicated, but Shane's... Of course it is.
Of course.
Well, yeah, of course.
It's not so simple.
Especially building Vice News.
But Shane said at the Knight Foundation Awards, someone asked him, like, do you ever think Vice would be doing on-the-ground reporting?
And he was like, no, it wasn't until, you know, Tim Poole came.
And I think he's sitting right over there.
And I was like, oh, wow.
I already quit at that point.
And I was like, I appreciate it, man.
So they didn't want to do it.
It was difficult.
They were resisting.
I was like, I want to do field reporting.
And they're like, we don't do that.
We do documentary stuff.
And I'm like, I want to do it.
And then Rocco, who's working on Scanner now, was actually a big advocate.
Like, you gotta look at what this dude's doing.
He's crazy.
So they started building stuff around it.
But I could see where things were going because it was slowly turning into a corporate machine.
And I knew what that would become.
But there's another big aspect to this, right?
So I ended up joining Fusion, and at first, these companies weren't infected.
The infection spreads to them, right?
Vice was actually alright.
Vice was making money off being the opposite of a lot of these social justice companies.
For one reason or another, more having to do with the sexual harassment accusations against higher-ups at Vice, they started adopting this stuff.
I think it has to do a lot with the investors, who were looking at all these other companies and they were like, this is what we have to do to avoid these scandals.
But the infection hit.
The people who were more likely to write articles to get traffic were social justice rage bait writers.
So they were more likely to keep their jobs because they got the views, they made the money, and the companies became social justice rage bait outlets, and that was the spread of the infection.
And it's funny because a lot of people would say things like, you know, Tim Pool doesn't get it.
You know, this was a year, it's like 2014 stuff, 2015.
And when they were talking about Gamergate and like video games being infected with social justice stuff.
And I was like, the video game stuff, it's actually really, really obvious how that all started.
Let's say you write for a video game outlet.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
What do you write about today?
Did a video game come out or something?
Destiny?
adam crigler
Me personally?
I mean I would be talking about the game.
The mechanics of the game.
What game?
Right now I'd probably talk about Revenant and the new stuff that's coming out.
No, it's been out for a little bit but it's not really well known and it's an incredibly fun game.
tim pool
What do you write about tomorrow?
adam crigler
Um, probably a different game.
I would just go through all the games I've played in the past.
tim pool
What's the news, though?
It's a news outlet.
You're not just doing reviews.
It's the news.
What's the news, man?
Did something happen in gaming?
adam crigler
I could probably talk about the deer person, but that's a one-off, you know?
Then what?
I would stick to the games as much as I could.
tim pool
The answer is, you can't.
It's impossible.
adam crigler
Yeah, what is news in games?
tim pool
So a game's coming out, a game's getting reviewed, and so some of these journalistic gaming sites would do a big encyclopedia, basically like a game guide.
So some of these gaming outlets, you'd go there and you'd see a ton of articles about how to do certain things, but when your job is to write five articles a day, And it's about gaming.
What do you write about, man?
What do you do?
Well, I wrote four articles.
That's every game coming out this month.
Now I gotta write five articles every day for the rest of the month?
Social justice fake controversy.
They make it up.
Like that woman we mentioned about the Ivanka Trump article.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
For those that aren't familiar, it was this article that said, okay, Ivanka Trump responded to Elon Musk.
adam crigler
Oh, right.
tim pool
Elon Musk said, take the red pill.
Ivanka said, taken.
And she writes 400 words about incels and misogyny and what this really means about Ivanka.
And I'm like, bro, she said a five letter word, calm down.
But she stuffed everything in there.
adam crigler
Everything.
tim pool
Yup.
And so she might not even do that on purpose.
That could just be that like.
adam crigler
I ran out of steam and I need to write another one.
No.
tim pool
She's the natural crazy person who writes crazy nonsense whose articles work.
She might not be consciously being like, hmm, how do I craft a lie?
And so what happens, a lot of these companies, people think that journalists are told to do this and they do.
Nah, man.
They're the ones who survived.
The industry is collapsing.
The Atlantic just laid off 20% of its staff.
Who do you think stayed?
Let me tell you something, man.
Go to an investor.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
Go to an investor, alright, and tell them this.
I want to start a news company and we're going to do a really big news investigation.
Okay.
Investors are going to ask you how much that costs.
First year, full investigation.
We're gonna need at least two other people on staff.
We're gonna need a travel budget.
We're gonna need equipment.
Oh man, to get off the ground?
For a good investigative reporter, we're talking like 100k.
Like, I'm talking like a good one, like an award-winning, like we're gonna, this is gonna be big, right?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Okay, let's roll that down.
It's going to be a new company.
We got some young upstarts.
We're going to pay them $50 because they live in New York and it's their demand because other companies pay comparably.
So we've got two people at $50.
We're going to buy a bunch of cameras.
We're going to put probably, you know, $30 or $40 in production.
So I'm going to need like $100, $200 just in staffing.
Then I'm going to need like $50 in office space.
And then I'm going to need probably like $100 in travel and everything else.
So let's just call it $300K.
Investors gonna say all right sounds good.
What's our projection after one three or five years, and you're gonna say nothing nothing and nothing Okay, well hold on man.
You're asking me for $300,000.
What do you mean nothing right nothing?
We might not even get the story, bro.
We might spend a year investigating and nothing comes out of it.
And that budget we're asking for, it's for one year.
You want to talk a three-year budget?
We'll need a million dollars.
Not to mention inflation costs, salaries, and everything.
So you mean to tell me, I'm the investor, you mean to tell me that you want a million dollars for a three-year operation with no guarantees of anything produced?
Get out of here.
I'm not paying for that.
That's nuts.
And another guy walks up and says, buddy, buddy, I'll tell you what.
You give me five grand right now, I'll hire a freelancer for a hundred bucks to write me some nonsense about some racist video gamer.
I'll make a $2,000 return like that overnight.
We're just going to gain the algorithm.
Five grand.
That's it.
Yup.
Five grand.
That's it.
What do I get out of that?
I think I can turn into 50.
How long?
A couple of weeks.
Deal.
There you go.
Now people are being inundated with this across the board.
You look at CNN, they're struggling, they're burning to the ground.
So what do they do?
Let's play the game, baby!
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's play the game.
adam crigler
You think that infection that you're talking about, the SJW, like clickbaity stuff, that's kind of the reason why all these Karens are going nuts because they're, well, look at what's being spread around on the internet.
This must be the way life is.
tim pool
They're turning into it.
adam crigler
The toxic masculinity.
Well, look, these are the articles that are being shared.
This must be the way things are.
tim pool
Kind of, yes.
adam crigler
The infection's growing into people's minds now.
tim pool
It's not making them Karens.
It's activating the Karen gene.
adam crigler
There it is.
tim pool
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's like the X gene.
So what happens is, if they see nothing but content where it tells them, people not wearing masks, bad.
What do they do?
You ever see Invasion of the Body Snatchers?
adam crigler
No, we've referenced it and people have yelled at me to watch it because it's supposed to be great.
tim pool
Let me pull up this tweet that I posted.
I've got to do some navigating.
Cassandra Fairbanks, who is a writer, she posted this clip from these Karens who are screeching at somebody for not wearing a mask.
adam crigler
Oh yeah, I've seen it.
tim pool
And so I posted a video and I want to play the sound.
Oh no, I probably can't play the sound.
I think we might be able to.
Anyway, I'll just show you the image.
adam crigler
Oh, this is from the movie?
tim pool
Yeah, so here, watch.
This is Donald Sutherland.
She walks up, and then he goes like this.
lydia smith
And he's just screaming so loud, it's like ear-splitting.
tim pool
But yeah, we'll get flagged if I play it.
adam crigler
He's like... Because he's been body snatched?
tim pool
He's been body snatched.
He's like... That's the joke I make, right?
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
So that's what happens.
The Karen gene. People want to fit in, right? And so they don't want to be ostracized. If the only
thing they see every day, they're being inundated by the same narrative. A narrative that makes no
sense, then they just say like, whatever that is, right?
adam crigler
Well, it makes sense to them.
tim pool
No, it doesn't make sense.
And they know it.
That's why they don't do interviews.
adam crigler
Do they?
I don't know.
tim pool
Absolutely.
That's why they don't do interviews, man.
Because they know they have no ideology.
All they have is the tribe, the collective.
And if they defy it, they'll get cancelled.
And the rules change every day, so if you do an interview and you say something about them, tomorrow the rule might be different.
So anyway, here's the point I was gonna make about the video of the Hitler dancing.
adam crigler
Right, right.
tim pool
You can see all of the weird keywords mashed together that makes no sense.
But in order to exploit an adult, you need to take things that make sense, and then present it in a way where they're like, I know what these things are.
And then you need to figure out how you can connect them.
That's why the rules change so often, because it doesn't make sense at all.
Like, what is or isn't offensive makes literally no sense.
But mash all of these different political causes into one, and you end up with like the Muslim LGBT alliance.
Where you have, in the UK, Muslims showing up to protest the LGBT curriculum in, what was that, in Birmingham?
lydia smith
I think so.
tim pool
Or, you know, whatever.
lydia smith
Yeah, like elementary school.
tim pool
An elementary school was doing LGBT curriculum, Muslims protested it, and they were fighting with each other, yet, intersection, like, actually a better example than this, too, is r slash atheism on Reddit.
It is a subreddit, a forum with millions of people dedicated to ragging on religion.
But for the most part, just Christians.
You can't rag on Muslims, they're an oppressed minority.
And so there was recently a really funny post where it was someone criticizing Islam, and all of the comments were walking on eggshells.
Look, if you want to talk about Christianity, they're like, these backwater yokel morons, so stupid Trump chuds.
And they just go nuts ragging on Christians.
Islam, they were like, you know, I think it's fair to say we can criticize and talk critically.
Unfortunately, too much of these people have hidden motives.
And it's like, are you kidding me, dude?
Like you want to rag on religion, rag on religion, bro.
adam crigler
Where'd all that internet sass go?
tim pool
It's about what's safe.
And it's interesting because we did an event.
There's a group called Mythicist Milwaukee.
They did an event in Milwaukee.
I showed up at the last minute.
And there's an interesting break in the atheist community.
There's this really weird thing that happened in the early 2010s where the left and the right spun in a weird way and then split in half.
adam crigler
Like a polar shift?
tim pool
Not really.
Maybe, maybe.
Maybe like a polar shift.
You now have, like there are people I know who made lefty anti-war videos that are now suit wearing MAGA hat dudes.
And I'm like, how did that happen?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
How did that happen?
Like that's a change for sure.
For sure.
But there are people who are a lot like us, who for the most part are the exact same, talk about the exact same things, but everything else shifted around us.
adam crigler
Yeah, definitely.
tim pool
So, like, the best example is these people at Vice being like, man, you've changed, dude.
Like, what happened?
And I'm like, bro, remember when you wrote that edgy article?
Yeah.
I'm like, I didn't even write that!
There's one dude who became an overt SJW, and then people looked at his history writing for Vice, and they were like, bro, you are the most racist sexist we've ever seen.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And he was like, oh, well, I mean, I disavow my past.
And they were like, don't care.
You're canceled.
And, like, just light him up online.
Like, just go at him like crazy.
But these are the people that just... They're the grifters, and they accuse everyone else of being a grifter.
It's sad, dude.
When, like, I have good friends that I've known for years, and we'd hang out, we'd have a good time, to hear what they're saying now, and I'm like...
directly breaking the law.
Their companies are advocating for things that are outright illegal.
lydia smith
Oh, just like hiring those people?
tim pool
Yeah, and I'm like, how do you go from being like, we need the Civil Rights Act to prevent discrimination in the hiring process, to two years later being like, I'm gonna discriminate against the people I'm hiring!
adam crigler
It's like, how did your brain snap?
So it's illegal to say, I want to hire this specific type of person?
tim pool
For the most part, yes.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Like, if there was a job posting that said, you know, we're looking for a janitor, but men only, super illegal.
If it said Christians only, illegal.
If it said Americans only, illegal.
I think national origin is... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So now what's happening is, you've got people putting up posts being like, we're only hiring women, we're only doing this.
There are exceptions for modeling, entertainment, performance.
unidentified
Alright.
tim pool
For obvious reasons.
And there are some exceptions that can be argued in court.
Like, that's what the point of judges are for, right?
Like, copyright infringement and fair use.
Literally everything is copyright infringement that's under fair use, but it's an exemption.
So you can be sued and then you'll win on a fair use grounds.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So like, When I show a news article and I'm talking about it and reading it and commenting?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, technically that's infringement.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Except it's fair use, so... Because it's public.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So when it comes to these employment violations, think about who was posting these jobs like, you know, so-and-so need not apply in the 60s.
adam crigler
Long haired freaky people.
tim pool
Long haired freaky people.
I think you're allowed to discriminate against long haired freaky people.
unidentified
No!
adam crigler
I'll never work again!
Long haired freaky people.
tim pool
Today it's like, what am I supposed to say to somebody who's become a hardcore racist?
And they're in the dogma.
And it's like the craziest thing is it's all tied together with politics.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So the lockdown is part of it too.
adam crigler
These same people... What makes it even worse though, it becomes part of their like...
Emotions, you know, so even having a logical conversation with someone like that, like you asked, like, how do you talk to someone like that?
You almost can't.
tim pool
You can't.
adam crigler
Because as soon as you go against what they believe, they get triggered and you can't have a logical, peaceful conversation because their emotions just shoot through the roof and then that starts driving, you know, everything they're talking about.
Yeah, you're going against their worldview and that's, you don't do that.
As soon as you do that, boom, emotions take over.
Same thing.
tim pool
It's crazy how like... Even food.
adam crigler
You know, talking about food.
People get triggered whenever the word vegan comes around.
It's like, oh my gosh!
Triggered!
And it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I don't care about what you eat.
Don't even say it.
It's like, the other day he said, you know, oh man, vegans talking about food?
And it's like, it wasn't even me in the room.
Yeah, it was me talking about it.
You were talking about it, you know?
And it's like, there's a trigger that happens against the worldview.
It's like, You know, that happens pretty much to everyone on different levels, but especially in this situation.
tim pool
Tribalism, you know what I mean?
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
So it's like when people bring up the vegan stuff, it's usually not as heated as the political stuff.
adam crigler
Absolutely, yeah.
But people always get heated about... Well, when you get crazy vegans, which there's certainly crazy vegans out there, you know, they'll attack even me for having like a pet.
You know, having pets to some vegans is like, whoa, whoa, whoa, you're using them as love slaves.
And it's like, yeah, that's what humans have done for a long time.
Like, okay.
Anyway, it's pretty funny.
tim pool
It's impossible to have a conversation with somebody who has adopted a dogmatic worldview and what's What blows my mind is that right now the religious right are the ones begging for the conversation.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's a good point.
tim pool
And I think Ben Shapiro is a great example.
Like how often he's had calm conversations about what he thinks and what he believes.
Even if he's wrong, even if people call him out, even if they make videos on YouTube where they're like, here's Ben Shapiro being wrong.
He doesn't scream at people and freak out.
He can see it.
He has his debates.
adam crigler
Yeah, but that's what we need.
tim pool
How did we come to a point where this inversion happened, where Jon Stewart was making fun of everybody, and it was funny, and you had George Carlin, and it was like, oh man, these authoritarian, it's like the libertarian shift happened.
Maybe it's like the pendulum of libertarianism, and it was on the left for a while, now it's on the right for a while, and it's like authoritarianism goes up, and then it goes down, it goes back and forth or whatever.
Now it's the right.
And so if you're mostly just a libertarian type, you are now more likely to have a good conversation with Trump supporters, conservatives, and if not, with the left.
adam crigler
Yeah, you can't further yourself if you're just only going to believe what you believe.
You have to hear the other side of it.
Oh, how do you know it's dark at night?
Well, because it's bright during the day and then it gets dark at night.
tim pool
I looked out my window.
Let me stop you right there, buddy.
I don't need to look out the window to know when night and day is.
It's hilarious.
Here's another example of the dementia that's affecting this group of people.
Somebody commented in reply to Trump, and they said something like, you know, there's only ever been one instance of known voter fraud from mail-in voting, and it was a Republican.
And so I quoted that in saying, whoa, a Republican tried cheating with mail-in voting.
That's a good reason for Democrats to oppose it.
I didn't say I was for or against mail-in voting.
I was poking fun at the argument that you're accusing Republicans of cheating and being in favor of mail-in voting?
Like, how does that make sense, right?
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And so then someone responded with, are you seriously opposed to mail-in voting?
You MAGA Trumpsters need to blah blah blah blah.
It's like some high-profile guy who said this.
Someone responded with, Tim lays out his position in the evidence here, and links to one of my videos.
His immediate response was, let me stop you right there, buddy.
I don't need to watch a video to understand that these people are stupid, blah blah blah blah.
Like, my position was for the most part, we do have evidence of voter fraud.
We shouldn't be changing the rules of an election six months before an election.
That seems... nonsensical.
You can say the same for about literally any- I don't care if they're Republican, Democrat.
If you want to change the rules, you want mail-in voting, you gotta do it beforehand.
Pandemics happen.
You can't argue, but we're in an emergency now.
Yeah, okay, well then where's your emergency provision for how elections are dealt with during an emergency?
You can't just sign an executive decree and mail out ballots and be like, we've changed the whole thing!
So this is a person who says, I don't need to see the evidence.
I'm just going to whinge.
adam crigler
That's what's happening nowadays.
lydia smith
I like it.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's the thing to do.
tim pool
And you know what, man?
Let's do this.
Let's jump to this UBI thing I want to talk about.
Let's talk about universal basic income and Starship Troopers.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Have you ever seen Starship Troopers?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Service Guarantees.
adam crigler
We've talked about it a lot on the show, actually.
unidentified
Have we?
tim pool
Service Guarantees Citizenship?
adam crigler
Yeah, it comes up a lot.
tim pool
Service Guarantees Citizenship?
adam crigler
Yeah, basically.
tim pool
Oh, there we go.
So here's what I was getting to, right?
So in the previous segment, we're talking about You have a bunch of people who refuse to read evidence, who refuse to watch videos, and just want to be angry.
And these people vote.
And that voting impacts how society functions, and they vote for people who exploit their unwillingness to actually read and understand and engage.
So the example I used was someone who said, like, someone sends them a video of, like, here's Tim's opinion, and they go, let me stop you right there.
I don't need to watch a video.
adam crigler
It may prove me wrong, so I'm not going to watch it.
tim pool
It's not even that.
It's like people.
adam crigler
Oh, that's in there.
tim pool
They're just, their brains are closed.
Like, I know, I don't need, I don't, I don't need anybody to show me anything.
I know.
And that person goes and votes.
So that gets me thinking like, I'm, I'm, uh, for the most part, not in favor of the Starship Troopers argument about service guaranteed citizenship.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
But I think it's an interesting idea we're talking about.
adam crigler
Or just the simple right to vote.
If you serve.
tim pool
What do you mean?
adam crigler
Well, I mean, it's one thing to become a citizen, but then you can be a citizen but then have the ability to vote.
I know they're not exactly the same thing.
tim pool
For those that aren't familiar with Starship Troopers, it's basically like everyone has equal rights.
But only citizens vote.
So, what do they call it?
Civilians and citizens, right?
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Is that what it was?
adam crigler
I think it was.
Man, it's been too long since I've seen this movie.
tim pool
And the book apparently was a lot better, but basically, all the civilians have equal rights, free speech, whatever.
If you want to vote, you have to sign up for, I think, was it two years?
adam crigler
I think so, yeah.
tim pool
And then after two years, you become a citizen, and now you enjoy the right to vote, and run for office, and elect people.
And it's funny because a lot of people on the left have claimed Starship Troopers is a model of fascism, where it's like you have to serve the military before.
But I don't think that's even true for the book.
I think it was like civil service, not military service.
I'm not entirely sure.
Yeah, I don't know.
I want to talk about universal basic income, but I'll first ask you, what do you think about that idea?
adam crigler
Well, I mean, what would be a civil service?
Working at the post office or DMV?
Working a regular job that is in the government?
Working on roads?
Fixing roads?
Cleaning up the side of the highway?
That kind of stuff?
tim pool
Probably.
And that could include military service.
But military service doesn't mean combat.
A lot of people don't understand too.
They think it means you're going to go out with a gun.
That's actually the response I got from Cameron Kasky.
I don't know if you know who he is.
He's one of the survivors from Parkland who did like the big press.
He got a bunch of press after Parkland, the Parkland shooting.
He's a cool dude.
I really, I think he's a cool dude.
But his response to me, so here's what I said.
Here's what I said.
What if universal basic income came with mandatory civil service?
The army is recruiting and they pay your bills and college, right?
I wasn't saying everyone should have to join the army in order to get universal basic income.
I was making a point about how there's an easy path to getting government wages, college, healthcare, and join the army.
You know what I mean?
It's one example of civil service.
His response was, let's throw free speech in there too.
Why have the right to speak if you haven't almost been killed?
And there's a lot wrong with, with, with his immediate response.
It's like, first of all, yeah, a lot of people in the army, like desk clerks, you know what I mean?
It's like, you know, you know, the, the, the story of the Covington kids, the, the kids were standing on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial.
Oh, Native Americans banging the drum.
adam crigler
They were wearing MAGA hats.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Yeah.
Okay.
tim pool
Native American guy was like, I'm a Vietnam era veteran.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
He was a refrigerator repairman in like Tulsa or something.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Do you know what city he was in?
lydia smith
I don't know.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
He was just like a refrigerator repairman.
People seem to think that like joining the army means they're like parachuting into Afghanistan.
lydia smith
Vietnam era.
tim pool
Yeah, Vietnam era, because he didn't actually do anything!
And he got, like, discharged.
I don't know what happened to that guy.
But that's, like, the immediate reaction people have.
They assume, like, any service to the government is, like, I don't know, death patrol or something?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So, for those that aren't familiar with what universal basic income is, I assume most of you are, it's a guaranteed income from the government.
So I asked a question.
That's it.
I didn't say, we should do it this way, it should be this way.
I was like, what if?
What if UBI was mandatory civil service?
Meaning, everybody got a guaranteed wage, and then you had to do some kind of civil service for some kind of period?
I didn't even say what, it was just a question.
adam crigler
I think that would raise the general, what's the term I'm looking for, just respect for your land and your neighbor, you know, because doing civil service, you're helping others.
That's essentially what it is, you know.
I feel a lot of people kind of lose themselves in just maintaining their own personal lives and they don't let, they don't let others affect them.
They don't do, they don't care about other people.
They just do their own thing.
And that tends to lead to things that people get greedy, whatever.
I'm sure there's many different ways, but the more you help others, the more empathy you gain.
And I think that's a big problem with humans nowadays.
tim pool
For sure.
I think if there was like, we, I think we used to have more community-based programs and now everything's fractured.
adam crigler
It's weird.
tim pool
And like virtual.
adam crigler
Yeah, we need that back.
tim pool
But here's what I was thinking about this, right?
I'm thinking about civil service and universal basic income.
And what's really funny is the resistance from those who would typically support UBI.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
How dare you tell me I would have to work to receive money.
It should be a right.
A universal, I'm like, and there we go.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Okay.
tim pool
Listen.
adam crigler
It should be a right to live for free.
tim pool
If you don't want to give, why should you get?
Yeah, I agree with that.
So the point I made in response to it is free speech costs nothing.
Burgers require human labor.
So should people have to contribute in order to receive?
If not, then where do the burgers come from?
If you have 100 people and 100 of them are saying, I would like a burger, but none of them want to work, then there's no burgers.
It's that simple.
So I was thinking like, Andrew Yang has talked about Universal Basic Income being opt-in.
If you do, you forego other benefits.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And so it can actually cut a lot of costs.
adam crigler
That does make sense, actually.
tim pool
It doesn't necessarily cover the total cost of UBI.
However, if not everybody signed up for it, then you might actually be able to do it.
Now, the challenge, I guess, is, for one, it's definitely a huge government, massive expansion of power and authority and stuff like that, for sure.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
Yeah, definitely.
But it's not necessarily bad if it's run, you know, locally and independently locally or something like that.
But regardless of the merit of whether it's good, bad, the point is, it makes infinitely more sense that if the government is going to be giving you money, you should do something for it.
In which case, it's just a national jobs program.
adam crigler
Yeah, basically.
tim pool
You know what I mean?
But I'll tell you what, are you familiar with the Green New Deal?
adam crigler
A little bit.
tim pool
Yeah, so it was like, you know, guaranteed income for those unwilling to work was one of the things they put in their document.
That's the one they polled though, right?
They panicked and were like, I don't know how they got rid of it.
lydia smith
Oh, it wasn't really our idea.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so Kylo Kortez puts out a frequently asked questions and it's like, we're gonna give income to people unwilling to work.
That's the extent they go.
And I'm like, isn't the compromise just create like a federal jobs program where, what if we did like bounties?
You know what I mean?
Like there could be like a community center where it, like people who work in government, there could be a task required that have a set budget.
And they would say, here's a job that needs to be done.
And then it would pay a set rate and you could go in and do like freelance government, you know, contributions or civil service or something.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
Otherwise what?
We just give people free stuff?
adam crigler
I mean, you, someone can mop a floor and someone could do a terrible job of mopping the floor.
I'm just using mopping the floor as a random idea, but it's like, not everyone's going to do the job well.
You know, it's like they could mop half the floor and be like, yeah, I did it.
Sure.
Give me my, give me my income now.
Yeah, it's clean.
Sure.
Whatever.
tim pool
Right.
So in that case you end up not actually getting anything done.
adam crigler
Exactly.
Then the government's spending money for people, Like, yeah, I did the job.
And then it ends up being like, they didn't even do the job.
They just clicked that they did it and then they're getting paid.
And then it's like.
tim pool
Somebody actually responded with that, that they were like that.
What happens then is the government hires a bunch of kids to dig holes and a bunch of other kids to fill the holes that they just dig.
They just dug.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Yeah.
You want to hear one of the crazier ideas that may be crazy, like Fox is paying people who commit crimes.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
Yeah.
That's the punishment.
If you commit a crime, they give you money.
lydia smith
Huh.
tim pool
Yeah, have you heard that?
adam crigler
Not a very good incentive.
lydia smith
No, how does that work?
tim pool
The argument is that it costs us like, you know, $30,000 a year to house an inmate.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And if a lot of these crimes are property crimes as the result of poverty, we're better off giving them strict restrictions, like you gotta check in, you gotta do these things, and then we'll give you cash.
Paying criminals not to commit crime is cheaper than actually putting them in jail.
And it actually stops the crime.
adam crigler
I like that.
tim pool
Isn't that weird?
adam crigler
I mean, why wouldn't we go into that?
Think about that.
tim pool
That's pretty legit.
Because then you encourage people to just become criminals for income.
adam crigler
Or not be criminals.
I mean, yeah.
No, no, you're right.
I see what you're saying.
Yeah.
tim pool
So it's, people have these funny ideas where you think about it and you're like, I get it, and then think about what that means.
adam crigler
It's like, oh yeah, okay, I know I get it, you're right.
tim pool
You're gonna end up with like, you know, I heard there's a meme about Scandinavians who want to go to jail.
adam crigler
Because it's awesome.
Because it's nice there.
tim pool
Have you heard that?
adam crigler
Actually, it's funny that you say that because there's a jail that's for sale where her parents live, and it's right in the middle of town.
I'm looking at the building.
It's beautiful.
They've got TVs in the room.
Everyone's got a nice window on the third or fourth floor overlooking the water.
tim pool
You gotta give context to her.
adam crigler
So this is my wife.
This is a small town in Sweden.
It's in some islands.
So it's like right in the middle of an island.
It's right in the entrance of the town.
And it's beautiful.
I mean, it's for sale.
It could be in a dope Airbnb.
But it's a jail.
But I'm looking at it and I'm like, that does not look like a jail.
All the rooms are fairly large for what you would expect a jail cell to look like.
And it doesn't look like a cell.
tim pool
So interestingly, one of the arguments for universal basic income is that it would reduce crime because it would reduce poverty.
Okay.
It's interesting, and I see this.
This is one of the biggest problems just people in general have.
Yes, poverty breeds crime.
That doesn't necessarily mean giving criminals money will stop crime.
lydia smith
Well that's kind of like, isn't that kind of like saying that if you just give a homeless person a house you'll solve the problem?
I don't actually see that solving the problem because there might actually be some underlying issues that aren't just not having a house.
adam crigler
I see another problem is we don't teach even you know whatever class you're in we're not teaching kids like about money.
I didn't learn about money in in my school so like and and especially probably in these poverty areas they're not like teaching like all right so if you make some money Don't just go buy stuff.
You need to invest properly, think about what you need in your life.
This isn't something that we're even talking about.
That also is part of the problem.
They get money from the government like, oh, I'll go buy a new TV instead of you need to use that for what you need to use it for, to pay your rent, to make sure you're eating food correctly, furthering yourself instead of just being part of the system that they want.
That's what they want.
tim pool
This is why the question, what if, is so important in any discussion, right?
And that's why I tweeted, what if.
adam crigler
I'm not saying... And you get a bunch of emotions being thrown back at you.
lydia smith
Anger and people like, you know... Defensiveness.
tim pool
Because this is why I find myself in a milquetoast fence sitting position.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Dude, there's so much involved in what could happen and what needs to happen before any kind of major overhaul of any kind of program.
No one can predict or calculate.
So you sit down with a bunch of people, you talk about it, and if eventually you say, I think we've covered as many bases as possible, let's do a trial run.
Well, there you go.
If one person just comes out and demands Income for people unwilling to work.
It's like dude.
You can't just throw a wrench into a an engine.
You'll break it It's not gonna change.
adam crigler
It's like I think this cog would go good here smash Yeah, especially when there's like millions and millions and millions of pieces to this engine, which is America, you know And so that's grinding and everything's going crazy.
tim pool
Mm-hmm, but I thought of something when you mentioned that school.
What if public schools paid kids for A's good grades But it wasn't they just give them cash.
They basically can buy things within the school.
adam crigler
Or give them credit for college.
tim pool
It's like school credits.
adam crigler
Like a future, you know, you're investing in your future.
If you get all A's, you're going to get a percentage off whatever college you go to.
tim pool
No, no, no.
adam crigler
I'm just spitballing here.
tim pool
What I'm trying to say is a school would have a local commissary or something.
Okay. Candy bars, you know, sodas, lunches. Sure. And the school will say, you know, for every egg you get on a test,
you earn five school credits, you know, and five school credits is equivalent of a dollar or something. Okay. Then
the kids actually have an account. They can look at their accounts. They can bounce their accounts. They can see what
they can spend on. They can trade credits between each other. Actually give them an understanding of how money
works, how to save money.
adam crigler
I love it.
tim pool
The schools could have like an interest system.
It's not real cash.
It's just like the school could spend, you know, a thousand bucks, you know, a month on like a... and it could be pens and pencils and erasers and staplers.
adam crigler
Yeah, things they need.
tim pool
Yep.
adam crigler
I like that.
tim pool
And then a kid could be like, you know, I got an A on every test in my class.
Now I can go get that, you know, candy bar I wanted.
I like that. Make them actually work and get some benefit from their work and understand the real
value of work and what they can buy with it. Instead, what do we do? We put kids in institutionalized
learning facilities where everything is provided for them.
And then finally, by the time they graduate with their degree at 22 after college, they're
like, tell me what to do, boss.
adam crigler
What do I do, boss?
I need you to do this.
Do your job.
That's why I hired you.
That's what I want.
tim pool
And they live over communism.
Right. Because they're like, my entire existence was in
a room where someone told me what to do and provided for me.
Yeah. Why should I have to figure out how to make food?
lydia smith
That's what I want.
adam crigler
Nailed it. Yeah.
tim pool
That's why all these college kids come out and they're like, communism.
Yes!
The authority!
You know what's crazy though?
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
I think the general idea of communism can only be bred from children.
From the immature, is a better way to put it.
Children is just me doing an emotional dig at these people.
lydia smith
Why is that?
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah, okay.
tim pool
So, I think one of the things we see with millennials is that they never feel like they're ready to take over.
And the best example of this is our three or four 70-year-old, 80-year-old presidential figures.
unidentified
Good point.
tim pool
Tulsi Gabbard, awesome.
Pete Buttigieg, awesome.
Andrew Yang, awesome.
adam crigler
He's in his 30s, right?
Late 30s?
tim pool
Buttigieg.
Yeah.
Buttigieg and Tulsi are both like 37, 38.
That's awesome.
Yang is what?
Yang is in his 40s?
adam crigler
That's what we need.
Younger blood.
Younger blood in the government.
tim pool
So it's fair to say we have a decent amount of political candidates, you know, who are younger.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But I think because of how millennials view themselves, their children, not everybody, like, you know, clearly, you know, not us and not probably the people watching, to be honest.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But a lot of them do.
They've never grown up.
They've never become adults.
adam crigler
They don't want to, more importantly.
tim pool
Definitely.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
They have zero interest.
It's way easier.
lydia smith
That's scary.
tim pool
They want Grandpa Bernie to take care of them.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Grandpa Bernie.
Bernie's like, I'm going to get your dinner for you.
I'm going to pay for your school.
adam crigler
I'm going to give you ice cream.
tim pool
You know what my whole life has been?
adam crigler
Man, you're so right about that.
That's true.
lydia smith
It's true.
Yeah.
tim pool
I've got to figure out how, look, dude, we have a garden in the back.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
What did we grow?
We grew radishes.
lydia smith
We have radishes.
unidentified
And chives.
lydia smith
We have carrots and chives.
tim pool
You know what's the craziest thing?
What was that sketch?
I don't know if you've ever seen it, where it's this British dude and he's like, he like looks over and it's on a camera and he goes, hey, You want to hear a way to get rich quick?
adam crigler
Check it out.
tim pool
I got these seeds, right?
Put them in the ground.
unidentified
That's it.
tim pool
Put some water on them.
Food grows up.
You can sell it!
unidentified
It grows right out of the ground, just like that, you don't gotta do anything!
tim pool
And it's like, has someone ever, have these young people ever realized that?
But they're so used to, in my opinion, things being given to them, that they don't have a concept of how to make, create, source, or be independent.
And so they're not.
And so they need someone to do things for them.
It's like, have you ever solved a problem on your own?
They haven't.
adam crigler
And now you think about what our last subject about the SJW clickbaity things that everyone's spreading around on the internet and it's like that's reaffirming their beliefs that they're owed stuff that they should get all this stuff.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
So it's just this whole cycle is just never ending and getting worse and worse and worse.
tim pool
It is a, it's a problem of human, uh, like it's like just human nature.
It's the cycle.
It's like Unilever owns both Dove and Ben and Jerry's.
And Dove does the Real Beauty campaign where it's like, you can be overweight.
It's no big deal.
And then their other property is ice cream.
And they're like, eat more ice cream.
adam crigler
And they also own like the, the lactose, uh, medicine for the belly.
You just sell it in one pack.
tim pool
You know why I always thought that we drink Coke sodas with our Big Macs and fries?
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
Because you're eating a big pile of garbage and slogging up your system, so you need a psychoactive stimulant to get you back to feeling normal.
Well, it's like a burger is trash, and you eat it and you're like, I feel terrible.
Let me take my caffeine, which is a psychoactive stimulant very similar to cocaine, and you drink a gallon of it, and then you've got... I can handle anything now!
Yeah, caffeine makes you euphoric.
It enhances muscle endurance, makes you less tired, so you eat trash and then drug yourself to feel better.
That's just like... People gotta eat better, dude.
adam crigler
That's a whole other subject, I feel.
tim pool
But it's an example of how You know, glutton culture expands and comes to this point where you literally have people who are morbidly obese and unhealthy being told by the media, it's okay to be morbidly obese and unhealthy and eat trash.
You're being oppressed, actually.
You take no responsibility for your health.
And look, I'll tell you what, as I always clarify, if you know the risks and choose to do it, I don't care.
Right.
But if you think you have no responsibility for your own health and then demand I pay for your health care?
adam crigler
Yeah, I have issues with that.
tim pool
It's the perfect example of these people.
Dude, let me go out into the woods with a dog.
I'll build my own log cabin.
Leave me alone.
You people have lost your minds.
And they just don't want to work and it's like they just drag everybody down.
That's probably one of the most, like, people are going to be like, oh man, Tim's going crazy, red pill law, he's so concerned.
Look, at a certain point, what's the saying?
If you're not liberal when you're young, you have no heart.
And if you're not conservative when you're older, you have no head?
lydia smith
Brain, yeah.
tim pool
Brain?
Well, head is better.
unidentified
It's like, you know, a little illiterate, I guess.
tim pool
But it's not even about that.
I think that saying comes from the fact that when these young people finally get their first paycheck and see how much taxes they had to give away, they're like, what?
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
And they start asking questions.
lydia smith
Now that's a red pill.
tim pool
How much of my money went to killing kids?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
No, thank you.
Wait, I got to pay for that guy's health care?
He's smoking a pack a day.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Come on, man.
adam crigler
You know, and eating McDonald's every meal.
unidentified
Dude, I feel like chugging the Coca-Cola.
tim pool
It's the best.
It's the best way to like, you know, these young people haven't experienced someone refusing to take responsibility and then demanding they cover for them.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's a good point.
tim pool
Because they're the ones constantly demanding.
lydia smith
They become that person.
tim pool
It's getting really bad to the point where, like, You have these kids in schools where you might argue, were you ever in a lab where you had a partner, and the lab partner did no work, and you're like, and we're gonna fail unless you help, and it's like, I'll do this, whatever, and you're like, and then you end up doing all the work?
I have, yeah.
That'll turn you into a young conservative for sure.
But now the kids are just complaining to the teachers they shouldn't have to do it at all, and they're calling teachers racist, and the teachers are like, okay, I'm sorry, class is canceled.
adam crigler
All right, you all get A's.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Yeah, they're literally doing that.
And they're arguing now with their dogma that, like, teachers should give better grades for, like, diversity and inclusion.
adam crigler
And, wait, wait, you didn't?
We're canceling you.
lydia smith
Yep, exactly.
adam crigler
And the students will straight up cancel.
It's happened, right?
tim pool
You know, Brett Weinstein?
It's like one of the funniest stories is that they started spreading lies about him and he's like a progressive lefty guy.
And so he's like, some people approached him.
I can't remember exactly what happened, but they were calling him like a bigot and a racist.
And then he actually started arguing for them, like saying it's, you know, humans have inherent bigotry and racism where it's because we, I don't want to, I don't want to put words in his mouth, but basically the idea as I understand it is humans have a tendency to feel safer around things that are familiar.
So they look for people who look like them.
So we have to try very hard to break down our inherent biases.
And they're like, what?
But you're the white supremacist.
Their brains go, and you're just broken.
adam crigler
It's a fun image.
tim pool
Yeah.
There's a lot to complain about, I guess.
It's a random rant today, huh?
adam crigler
Yeah, whatever.
tim pool
Because here we are now with everything locked down, and it all stems from, you know, I feel kind of sad.
It's like you lose a friend to a cult, you know?
lydia smith
That's hard.
adam crigler
That's what it feels like, yeah.
tim pool
They say things that clearly make no sense.
And when you try to talk, no, I'm like, listen, let me just ask you one question.
The government should provide the food.
Where does the food come from?
adam crigler
The farmers.
tim pool
From the government.
I know, but like the government has to get the food from somewhere, right?
adam crigler
Right.
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, they just have it.
Like, what's your answer?
From the farmers.
Okay.
Where do the farmers get the resources to make the food?
Like you said, dude, the food just grows out of the ground.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Who puts it there?
Who pulls it out?
adam crigler
Who's actually doing it for you?
tim pool
Driving the truck.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
They actually have like automatic trucks, like tractors now that like drive and do it themselves.
Pretty cool.
adam crigler
But they have to charge those trucks.
tim pool
That's the real argument for you behind my opinion.
That's why I like Andrew Yang.
Automation is a real argument.
Like what happens when the factories are totally automated?
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
Like the farms are.
adam crigler
Granted, we're not there yet, but we are heading there certainly.
tim pool
Yeah.
So this is why, you know, I asked these questions because I don't think, I think the biggest challenge from going from our current capitalistic system to a post-scarcity system, should we ever, it's the middle period where there's a hybrid of it.
It's one of the things I brought up on the Rogan Podcast last month.
We're going to end up with a period where there's people who have to work and people who can't.
What happens when 90% of your population doesn't have to work and 10% does?
Kind of like what we're seeing with essential workers.
People have to go out and do all this hard work while we get a $600 bonus for not working.
adam crigler
That's exactly what's happening.
tim pool
That's like kicking them in the balls.
Being like, you work for less!
We are going to watch TV and play video games for the next two months and get extra money to do it.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's nice.
tim pool
The extra money thing is part of the problem.
But either way, could you imagine living in a society where you had a surf class that had to do the labor while you didn't?
It's like the Hunger Games.
adam crigler
Yeah, it does feel like it.
tim pool
I understand it's kind of honorable.
We're like, we're going to have UBI and we're going to get to that point where everybody is free.
Never going to happen, bro.
adam crigler
They're all heroes for working.
Good job, heroes.
I'm going to go back to watching my YouTube videos.
lydia smith
And we're going to pay them less.
tim pool
Here's the best part.
You guys ready for this?
And then we should definitely take super chats.
While they're advocating for UBI in America, they ignore every other country.
So I'll give you this example.
Let's say America right now enacted UBI.
Everyone in this country got $2,000 a month.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So you know what happens?
This, you know, SJW type whatever is all like, this is the money I'm owed.
And they order a Samsung or an Apple product off the internet.
And they give that sweet, sweet money to Apple.
Then Apple takes that money, counts it, smiles, and then presses the button at the Foxconn factory
where people on the roofs are walking off and mass committing suicide
because they're basically slaves crammed in boxes.
You can have your UBI, and the things you buy will come from countries that basically treat people
like slaves.
When we got to get the raw materials for the products you consume in America as a wealthy country, sure, we're a wealthy nation.
We can spread the wealth all around to each and every one of you.
And then you need to realize the microphones you get, the computers you get, are composed of products and elements that are mined from the earth.
I watched a documentary about dudes mining sulfur and their teeth fall out of their mouth.
They're like 26.
adam crigler
It's crazy.
tim pool
They jam rags in their mouths because we don't want to do it.
So these people who are like, it's only fair that we get money.
It's like, well, what about the people in these countries that are like enslaved?
adam crigler
Yeah, the reason your phone is even under $1,000 is because they got it made in another country that's dirt cheap, where they're paying nothing, the people working on them nothing, so they can make a killer profit on you.
tim pool
That, to them, is okay.
And that exposes everything about this fake ideology.
I shouldn't have to work in exchange for the money, and then when I get it, I don't care if other people in the Foxconn labs are enslaved.
I have a friend, and I was talking about this, and I said, I don't believe you genuinely want to fix the world the way you describe it.
I think what you really want to do is save your town, your friends, and your family.
And she was like, that's not true.
I'm here fighting for everybody.
I was like, that's no, it's not.
You've got a Samsung computer that's made at the Foxconn lab.
Those people are committing suicide in mass.
And she was like, they are?
And I'm like, you didn't even bother to read this.
You don't know about it.
Listen, man, you tell me you want to fight for the world.
I hear you.
It's idealistic.
I get it.
But you've done no research on what's going on in the world.
You have done no research to source where your tools and your wealth comes from, and you're acting like you're in this, you know, marginalized position while you're on top of the world, exploiting these underprivileged people around the planet, and to you, that's okay.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Nah, man.
adam crigler
Have you ever seen The Good Place?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, a little bit of spoilers.
It's kind of an old show, but basically everyone's going to hell.
There hasn't been someone to go to heaven for like hundreds and hundreds of years.
And they're like, when they find out, they like try to go to the judge and they're like, well, look what's happening.
You know, this person buys an apple, and that apple was from a country and whatever, and it was exploitation.
And the judge was like, well, they can do, they can search that information, can't they?
And they're not.
So whatever, let them go to hell.
And it's like, it's got a point.
tim pool
That's exactly it.
Look, I get it, man.
You can improve things in your own country.
But it's funny to me that, like, I'm fully accepting of all this stuff.
Like, I get it.
And that's part of what gives me my, you know, worldview.
Like this thing right here.
What is this thing?
This is the thing we use to spin the UFO.
It's an air duster.
adam crigler
I'm sure we'll use it in a little bit.
tim pool
I bet this thing is made in China.
adam crigler
Of course it is.
tim pool
And it's probably made by some dude who's wearing, you know, cargo shorts covered in oil and dirt in his bare feet.
And he's assembling things with like a little handy screwdriver.
And he gets paid like a dollar a day.
And then we get to have our cheap products.
Maybe we should be more conscious.
I think, you know, the polls have shown most people don't want to buy stuff made from China anymore.
It's a good thing.
adam crigler
On that note, I've been saying, like, let's bring it back to America.
And someone argued it to me, and they were saying about, well, the minimum wage, products would be more expensive.
And I said, good.
That'll stop this fast... I use fast fashion because it's pretty much across the board of everything.
Everything is cheap.
We need to bring it back to having quality products.
I've had the same phone for four years.
I don't plan on getting a new phone.
I don't need to get a new phone.
This phone is great.
It works for me.
tim pool
Don't update it.
adam crigler
I'm certainly not... Well, actually, I could because it doesn't include the new contact trace and stuff.
tim pool
No, no, no.
adam crigler
What?
It does?
tim pool
It'll slow the phone down so you can't use it anymore.
adam crigler
I thought that was illegal.
unidentified
Apple doesn't.
adam crigler
I think they still do that.
No, they got sued for it, didn't they?
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
That's a story I heard.
Well, either way, regardless, it's like if we make quality products that last a long
time, we can spend more money because we're not replacing it every year.
We're not having to replace it.
It just lasts.
And then we can even fix it, you know?
I don't understand how that doesn't come into play when people are talking about American-made
It's like, I have a friend who made a new clothing company.
It's called 1620.
I just ordered some awesome product.
They don't endorse this or anything.
I'm just giving them a shout out.
It's guaranteed for life.
Get a pair of pants.
If it falls apart, send it to them.
They'll fix them or send you a new pair.
It's like, that's what I'm talking about.
They're a little expensive, but it's worth it because I've been wearing the same clothes.
I wear the same clothes.
I don't need new clothes.
Once my clothes fall apart, I'll get new clothes.
There's a mentality thing that needs to change.
tim pool
I just, I guess one of the challenges, you can't get past evil people.
adam crigler
Like they will exist.
tim pool
They will exist, they will exploit.
And I was thinking about, you mentioned this, there's fake photos that go around of Trump hats and then someone will hold it and they'll flip it over and it'll say made in China.
Those are fake.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
They're meant, they're fake hats specifically made to lie about the president.
adam crigler
Makes sense.
tim pool
Of course Trump makes his stuff in America, dude.
Some news outlet did a tour of the Trump hat factory and it's like, all the MAGA hats, all the Trump hats, that's the smear.
These people are evil.
They do it because they want quick access to power.
Anybody who comes to you and says, I should be able to have all of your resources but not do work for it, question this person.
adam crigler
Or to cancel the people in power that are challenging their way.
lydia smith
That's the way to get the power.
tim pool
I'll tell you one quick story, and then we'll jump to the Super Chats.
Because I was down at Occupy Wall Street, and I had some people tell me this.
The goal was to flip the pyramid.
You know the pyramid?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You got the working class, you got the merchant class, you got the bourgeoisie, whatever.
They said, we're going to flip it over.
And I said, does that mean that the landlords and owners will be on the bottom with the least amount, and that the working class will be on top?
Or does it mean that when you flip the pyramid over, the bricks all tumble down and it forms a new heap in the shape of a broken pyramid with at least one or two former working class people on top?
adam crigler
Right?
Basically, you're right.
tim pool
And they said, that's exactly it.
They did not expect, and this is a couple of activists, they did not expect the pyramid to flip over and stay perfectly, like a perfect structure.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
They expected it to flip over and then all the bricks tumble down and then it becomes a jagged, broken heap with them on top.
lydia smith
What's that saying?
You got to break a few eggs?
tim pool
Well, it's like, yeah, you have a perfect pyramid.
It's designed, it's very pretty, and there's some things missing and it's kind of gross.
They want to destroy everything that meant they would be the ones in power.
And then everyone else falls down to the bottom again.
adam crigler
All I can think of is your song, The Will of the People.
tim pool
Exactly.
adam crigler
It's just the next person's going to step up and get that power, get a taste of it, and want more of it, and then become the top of the pyramid.
tim pool
It's the same thing.
That's all it is.
This is how you get civil war.
When you have these Karens on Facebook inundated with all this intersectionality garbage, they're convinced this worldview is true and just.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
And then they body snatch you.
And then they attack you, they get violent, and they've done it.
So now when you have people screeching and reading about not wearing a mask, it's like, dude, I get it.
You're like, I have no problem wearing a mask.
But this video is ridiculous.
Like, what made these people go insane?
If someone's not wearing a mask, walk away?
Yeah.
adam crigler
Don't get in his face and yell at him.
tim pool
Dude, it's a mob mentality.
adam crigler
The masks are supposed to prevent, you know, close proximity spit or whatever.
You're getting in their face.
You're increasing your chance.
If they have something or you have some, you're increasing the chances of it spreading.
tim pool
It's ridiculous.
Like the people who rushed full speed into the stores to grab the toilet paper when a pandemic was breaking out.
adam crigler
Fighting, slapping each other.
What are you doing?
No, it's a pandemic!
Here's the best part.
tim pool
The last and last part, which I brought up in superchats, is these same people saying, I can't believe how dumb these people are.
Someone tweeted, you're really going to risk everyone's life so you can go to Taco Bell?
I'm like, I saw that tweet, I kid you not, and I was like, oh no.
Okay, dude, first, Taco Bell never closed.
Taco Bell's running drive-thrus.
No one's risking anything by going to Taco Bell.
Second of all, you didn't even read any of the science that's come out so far.
That has said the lockdown may have backfired, the lockdown wasn't effective, that certain countries that didn't lockdown did better, and now we have the New York Times straight up saying Democrat areas did worse than Republican areas, Republican areas were less likely to lockdown and less scared of this.
Yet they still don't read a single thing!
And they're like, we're the smart ones!
adam crigler
Emotions.
tim pool
Yep.
My tribe is correct.
We've done no research.
Let me stop you there.
I don't need to actually read any of this research, these studies, or these newspapers, because I know what's best.
You, on the other hand, refuse to accept science.
adam crigler
That's a good Karen.
tim pool
It's like, oh my god, dude, listen.
adam crigler
Karen Poole.
tim pool
And so I think conservatives have been really lucky that they've fallen on the right side of this more often than not.
And it's partly due, I think, to the fact that conservative media is more critical and analytical.
But you certainly have a lot of people on the right who don't want to read either.
It just so happens that like everybody was, you know, when it came to Russiagate, it was all tribalism.
You know, there were a lot of people who fell on the right because Russiagate was nonsense and it was like confusingly like, what is this weird conspiracy garbage?
adam crigler
Yeah, we're finding out that it's not even true.
And even still, they bring it up.
Right.
It's been debunked.
tim pool
It's been proven, like, endlessly.
adam crigler
And they still use it.
Like, Russia, Russiagate.
And it's like, what?
What are you?
Oh, you're living in a hole.
Right.
Right.
SJW hole.
tim pool
OK.
adam crigler
Go and stay there.
tim pool
Well, they're the resistance.
adam crigler
OK.
tim pool
There's one really funny point.
Someone tweeted.
They were like, isn't it funny that the group that called themselves the resistance immediately buckled down to bend over for the government the moment they said stay in your home?
That's some resistance you got there.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
It's particularly frustrating because to loop it all back in tight with a nice little bow, my friend coming to me saying, you know, we need to have, you know, government guarantees and going full SJW and I'm like, nothing I could send you.
No amount of proof.
And you know what it is?
There really are grifters.
I'm not gonna name these people, but I've been having a tiff with someone, and it's become apparent to me, it's like, dude, are you faking this?
Hm.
adam crigler
You think that's true?
You think that's what's happening?
tim pool
Absolutely.
I know some people who are lying about everything.
adam crigler
You think it's just to fit in to their surrounding?
tim pool
Money.
adam crigler
Money, money, money.
tim pool
They accuse me of the same thing.
They say, Tim only has his opinions.
The funniest thing to me is when they say that I used to be lefty and then became right-wing.
I'm like, bro.
adam crigler
You're not right-wing.
tim pool
I was at Occupy Wall Street, and in 2011, I said to them, you shouldn't be making decisions based on race.
In 2011.
It's 2020.
You shouldn't be making decisions based on race.
adam crigler
Your words, people.
Your words.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
adam crigler
No, no, I know, but that's the thing.
Back in 2011, that's what you were saying.
tim pool
When I worked for Fusion, I made some points about, like, journalism.
And it was like stuffing and dealing with Gamergate and men's rights.
And my approach was we should interview, you know, the activists on both, you know, both sides of the issue.
And they were like, that's white supremacy.
And so then because of this, because of some video that we promoted that mocked political correctness, they started behind the scenes calling me a white supremacist.
And I'm like, bro, I didn't.
Yeah, it's funny.
It's like white people.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Try again.
White people telling the mixie over here.
adam crigler
Mixie.
tim pool
And that's what's funny to me.
It's like, bro, you guys are so racist, dude.
I'm not even here.
You know, they tell me I changed and I'm like, sorry, dude.
Like, I've been listening to George Carlin, Joe Rogan, Dave Chappelle, you know, Ricky Gervais, have not changed my, you know, some of my opinions have changed for sure, but for the most part, these people have gone nuts.
Anyway, there's the whole hour and a half rant for whatever reason.
We're going to read Super Chats.
adam crigler
You know, before we do, I just want to give a shout out to everyone in the service to our country.
I mean, today is Memorial Day after all.
I mean, you know, my brother's in the service.
He's in the Marines.
And we have so many people have died for us and our country.
And this is not a partisan issue.
I don't care if you're a Democrat, Republican, You know if you if you are against the wars that they're
fighting they're still out there fighting and dying for us So I just want to give mad respect to all those people that
are currently fighting for us have fought for us in the past that are still with us have
died for us and thank you because Everyone tries to make it you know something other than
what it is And I don't care if you agree with the wars or not, you're still out there fighting for us.
I really appreciate you, so thank you.
lydia smith
Amen.
tim pool
You're here.
For me, like, one of the biggest factors for a president is that they've served.
adam crigler
Straight up.
tim pool
It's one of the reasons I like Tulsi Gabbard, plus, you know, her anti-war stance, anti-regime change war stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah, half the time, it doesn't look like Trump enjoys his job, even.
But he's doing it, you know?
tim pool
He has golf a lot.
Yeah, yeah, I don't care.
How dare he golf?
lydia smith
First time in three months this time.
adam crigler
Oh, well, that's a good point.
lydia smith
Since February, right?
tim pool
I'm so over like every complaint every time.
It's like, shut up.
Unless you're gonna come to me and say Trump, you know, was like boiling babies or something.
I'm not interested.
Oh, what's that?
You said you'd vote for Joe Biden, even if he did.
Do you see that article?
adam crigler
Which one?
tim pool
The woman who said she'd vote for Joe Biden, even if he was boiling babies and eating them.
adam crigler
I don't understand it.
tim pool
Clearly, Biden can do no wrong and Trump can only do wrong.
I'm out.
You're not being honest.
Alright, we gotta read some of these superchats now.
adam crigler
Yeah, thanks everybody.
tim pool
I.B.
Rippetum says, I've been diagnosed with Rancid-19, the world's most dangerous fart disease.
Cuomo will have me arrested if I fart within six feet of another person.
lydia smith
Well, that's understandable.
adam crigler
Careful, careful I.B.
tim pool
Carson Snejcik says, are you going to talk about the escalating tension in Kashmir?
Even China is getting involved.
Looks like conflict is looming.
I will check that out.
Kyle Buchanan says, y'all three have a wonderful Memorial Day and remember why we celebrate it.
Star Trek or Halo to be the future of humanity.
Lydia, stay beautiful.
lydia smith
Oh, thank you.
tim pool
David Caballero says, hey guys, what are your thoughts on Eurovision?
I had the Icelandic song, Think About Things, stuck in my head all weekend.
adam crigler
Eurovision is not a thing in the States.
I don't know if that is.
It's like American Idol.
I know all about it because I've actually lived in Sweden periodically over the past couple years, so I've been privy to it.
And there's some good music that comes out of it.
There was that metal band, I think from Poland or something, that did awesome, or maybe, I don't know if it's...
Where they were from, but they won a few years back and it was like some awesome metal music.
It's crazy.
There's no genre that does better.
It's always the musicians that are good.
I haven't seen anything.
This must be some of the new Eurovision stuff that's going on right now.
I don't know anything about it, but I'll check it out.
Think About Things.
Is that the name of the song there?
Yeah, I'll check it out.
Cool.
tim pool
Ben Ritter says, have you had a chance to try Election Year Knockout?
A Steam version is coming soon too.
Unfortunately, I have not, but we will try.
I mean, you should play it.
I work nonstop.
No, I don't know.
I just haven't had a chance.
Mr. Self-Aware, thanks for becoming a member.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Supabambam says, did you see that Kroger is demanding associates to pay back hazard pay and is sending it to collections and everything?
I saw that!
lydia smith
That's messed up.
tim pool
Talk about, like, sacrificing all goodwill you may have had for anything.
lydia smith
Yeah, I resected that for a while.
tim pool
Yikes, yikes.
Samuel Williams, the founding father says, when I hear you say you want Dems to nominate an old school Dem, it's like watching a friend chase a girl that dumped him years ago, but he still keeps trying.
Move on, bro.
I did move on.
That's the point.
I think it was like two months ago.
I was like, that's it.
I'm done.
I'm done.
I know.
It's like being like in the friend zone.
They keep goading you on and like, you know, they, they, they want you to be there for them, but they don't want to give you what you're asking for.
adam crigler
They're keeping you just in case.
tim pool
And I realized, you know what?
This relationship wasn't meant to be.
Because if they're not going to provide, if we're not working on it together, I'm not going to, you know, I'm not going to, I'm not going to be that person.
Podcastage says, thanks for continuing to sling, sling that tent.
Off topic question, favorite band and album from that band?
Muse, definitely.
And I don't know if I have a favorite album from them because I think we're beyond the era of albums for the most part, right?
adam crigler
No, I refuse to believe that.
I love a really good album.
Fear Inoculum, for example.
Incredible album.
It fits tools like, you know, I just posted about this the other day.
It's such a good album from start to finish.
It feels like a tool album.
It didn't feel like something new and different.
It felt like I had been listening to this music for a long time.
Now, I'm not saying that that's what I would pick, but man, that's the first thing that came to my mind, so I'll just go with that.
tim pool
What are these weird little red things?
adam crigler
Little bugs.
lydia smith
What?
adam crigler
They're bugs?
tim pool
What?
lydia smith
Oh, gosh.
adam crigler
I don't see them.
Are you sure they're there?
lydia smith
Are you just seeing things?
tim pool
I've finished them off.
adam crigler
They came out of the thing from China?
tim pool
Drunk Shovel says, stuck working, I've had 8 customers in my shop in 8 hours.
Thanks for keeping me company, I'm bored to tears.
GoLeog says, Tim, perform a Hillary Trump debate but you do all the voices.
They staged a debate where they had a woman be Trump and a man be Hillary.
adam crigler
Interesting.
tim pool
The argument was that Hillary only lost because she's a woman.
So this performance group said, we're going to do the debate completely staged, but the woman character will be played by... we inverted the genders.
adam crigler
Interesting.
tim pool
Guess what the audience thought?
adam crigler
Verbatim, like they just did the exact same... It was a scripted event.
tim pool
The audience, who... they were unfamiliar with the politics, said Hillary's character was snide and unlikable, and the woman was justified and, you know, strong and, you know, things like that.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Yep.
So it really was, like, I mean, like the way Hillary acted was elitist, snooty, like... Acted?
adam crigler
Past tense?
lydia smith
Continues to act?
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
Well, thankfully we don't have to see her.
Yeah, sorry, no, no, no.
Oh, she's making a scene?
For some reason, she keeps being, uh, poking her head on the scene nowadays.
tim pool
Here's what I told him.
adam crigler
I wonder why.
tim pool
We were hanging out with Luke, and I told him here's what's gonna happen.
Joe Biden's gonna pick Hillary, then he's gonna win, and then they're gonna, I just imagine the scene
where it's like Biden's in a wheelchair with his head drooped down,
and he's got a blanket over his lap, and there's like a Secret Service guy,
and he wheels him into the sunroom, where he puts him up against a window,
it's like a bookshelf, and the sun is just beaming down on sleepy Joe, and he's asleep,
and then Hillary comes out of the shadows of the room, and she looks at the security guard,
starts walking past him like this, and she goes, and just walks past him,
and then the security guard pulls up, put on gloves, and then he pulls out a grout wire,
and that's just the end of it.
lydia smith
President Hillary.
adam crigler
Very visual.
lydia smith
Thank you for that.
tim pool
I should make short films.
adam crigler
I imagine her just like appearing out of the shadows.
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
And just like cutting his throat and then like going back into the shadows.
tim pool
She's wearing gloves.
unidentified
Yes.
She's prepared.
tim pool
No, but I like the idea of her looking at the Secret Service guy and going.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
Like making a nasty scowl and like.
adam crigler
Frightening.
tim pool
And then it's like, and then, and then like the next scene is like a newspaper and it says, you know, Biden dies of old age.
President Hillary, first real president.
I don't think it's actually going to happen, though.
I think he's going to pick Klobuchar or something.
Calby Cannon says, my shirt just showed up.
Harumph!
Excellent.
adam crigler
Nice.
lydia smith
Yes, send me pictures.
tim pool
Robofan says, what do you think about Halo MCC on PC?
Also, China's taking advantage of coronavirus to bring Hong Kong into the fold.
adam crigler
I don't know about Halo.
I don't know much about the whole Hong Kong thing, but I was reading a little bit about it earlier.
tim pool
What about Halo?
Do you know anything about Halo?
adam crigler
Not really.
I played Halo 1 on Xbox One, and it was an awesome game.
I played Destiny.
That's a Bungie game.
tim pool
China is trying to force Hong Kong, and it's creepy.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's crazy.
tim pool
China's infiltrating and taking over, man.
That's what they do.
Fred Fredfurter says, it is 8 p.m.
on a federal holiday.
Tim better be paying at least time and a half.
adam crigler
Yep.
All right.
Noted.
tim pool
Noted.
lydia smith
Duly noted.
tim pool
Ekege says, Tim and crew are the only thing keeping me sane while I wait to ship out to Navy boot camp.
Keep up the good work.
adam crigler
Right on.
lydia smith
We will try.
That's hard work.
adam crigler
Thanks for your service.
unidentified
Eric Heffelfinger.
tim pool
Any plans to a 2020 election special?
I would love to see you three react to at least the last hour of the final numbers coming in.
I think we probably would be.
lydia smith
Yeah, that would be so good.
tim pool
It's not a weekend, is it?
adam crigler
Maybe?
lydia smith
I'll look up what date is it?
adam crigler
Yeah, we'll see.
unidentified
I don't know.
adam crigler
Yeah, we'll do that.
Yeah, we'll do that.
That sounds fun.
tim pool
Hocticus says, I'm going to go camping this week and hang out in the woods.
Highly recommend.
Helps you unwind.
Definitely.
adam crigler
Sounds good.
tim pool
Qwerty says, listening to you while at work right now makes it more bearable.
Appreciate it.
Kyle with Super Chat says, you think that Trump will make it so that states cannot do mail-in voting if they want to bail out from the situation they got themselves into?
I don't know what's going to happen, but I think mail-in voting is a last-ditch Hail Mary to try and win.
They're changing the rules last minute.
I don't like it.
adam crigler
I agree with that.
tim pool
I mean, look, if we're in an emergency, emergencies happen, then you should have a bill prepared for when emergencies happen.
Plan ahead, man.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
PyraSynth.
I love both of your guys' music so much, I remastered the songs to listen in my car.
I can play music and would love to add guitar solos where appropriate.
I wanted to ask permission first.
Cheers.
I'll tell you what.
adam crigler
That's cool.
tim pool
Whatever you want.
And then you can send it to actually follow Adam.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Give your Twitter.
What's your... Adam Kregler.
adam crigler
Yeah, there you go.
You can see it.
It's Adam Kregler.
A-D-A-M-C-R-I-G-L-E-R.
And you can hit me up.
tim pool
Send him whatever on Twitter.
Make a link or something.
You can follow me at TimCast as well.
adam crigler
On YouTube also.
But if you tweet at me like, hey, here's this video I did.
Or this song that I mastered.
That'd be cool.
tim pool
And you can also follow Sour Patch Lids.
lydia smith
Yes, you can.
Here, hold on.
Wait.
This is me.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
With an L-Y-D-S.
lydia smith
Yep, that's my name.
adam crigler
And also, thank you so much.
That's really great.
unidentified
That's awesome, yeah.
adam crigler
It's fun hearing feedback and I really appreciate it.
I love playing music for people who enjoy it and that makes it so much better.
tim pool
We'll play more on Friday.
And smash that like button!
Just smash it!
Smash that like button.
Let's try and get to 50 billion likes.
lydia smith
Oh yeah.
adam crigler
50 billion or bust.
tim pool
50 billion.
That means we need people to click it more than once.
lydia smith
And to come back from the dead.
tim pool
Yeah, make new accounts.
Jack Daw says, if you ever do decide to vote for Trump, please consider not telling us.
I know we all want you to finally get on board, but you play a rather important role in the culture war and remaining unaffiliated is a big part of that.
But it's silly to make believe.
I'm not going to do that, right?
So the issue is, certainly many people on the left who are diehard Biden anti-Trump are assuming I've already voted for Trump in the first place.
So what am I going to do?
If I vote for Trump, I'll say I voted for Trump.
But we'll see how things play out.
Cult says, the Nephilim are returning.
Don't let them deceive you, Tim.
I won't.
Talbot says, y'all see Beijing finally made open and full claim over all Hong Kong rights, courts, and markets?
unidentified
Woo-hoo-hoo!
tim pool
It's gonna get spicy.
adam crigler
Yeah, it is.
tim pool
It's gonna get spicy when they go for Taiwan.
That's gonna get nuts.
That's the next move.
They probably need Hong Kong because they want to control more of the coast.
adam crigler
Makes sense.
tim pool
Before they can go to Taiwan.
Cliff says, I love your jamming Friday.
Crowder has Mug Club.
You and Adam should put out an EP or album and make Band Club.
Yeah, we could.
lydia smith
That'd be fun, yeah.
adam crigler
We're working on it.
lydia smith
It'd be awesome.
tim pool
Skateboards, too.
IB Rippenham says, worst censorship, Fartberg or Tudor?
Both!
Oh man, I just had a very bad idea of what Tudor would be.
It's just people.
adam crigler
Moving on!
tim pool
It's following.
You follow people and they just fart.
lydia smith
Oh no.
adam crigler
I think Ivy Rippon would be totally down.
lydia smith
Yeah, he'd run that thing.
tim pool
David says, always loved economics, but Tim, you got me into politics.
Move to Syracuse.
Vegan pizza on me, Adam.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Syracuse is fun.
I've been there before.
It's a lot of work.
And he does it every day.
Get a system.
Tim, you inspired me to make my own channel, Only Real Cloud.
I tried making daily videos, but it's so much work.
I make vids most weekdays.
Much respect for your work ethic, and thanks for the inspiration.
Hey, no problem.
adam crigler
I just do my thing.
It's a lot of work, and he does it every day.
lydia smith
Get a system.
tim pool
I have two half days off.
adam crigler
You're a beast, dude.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Didactics and David Lopez says, went to Venice Beach yesterday.
Crowds of people, many with no mask.
Cops minding their own business with their masks lowered.
Kids digging the skate park out of the sand.
Most of it dug out.
Awesome.
adam crigler
Good to hear.
tim pool
Skateboarders clean everything.
adam crigler
That's so true.
tim pool
So I've been skateboarding most of my life.
We would have mops and rakes and shovels and everything.
lydia smith
You have to, right?
tim pool
Yeah.
If you drove a half an hour to skate like this famous spot and there was dirt or something, you wouldn't just go home.
You'd be like, all right, let's clean it up.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
Someone, you get like a pump water thing.
adam crigler
That's actually interesting.
I lived in New York and I went to many different skate parks in New York and there is trash everywhere in New York.
Everywhere you go, there's trash.
You get to the skate park.
Oh, you get to the skate park.
It's clean.
tim pool
Yup.
adam crigler
It's clean.
They take the trash, they throw it away.
I mean, it's like their, their holy ground, essentially.
They care about it.
tim pool
I've helped clear drains at, like, flooded parks.
It's like, well, we're here, now what do we do?
Everything's under a foot of water.
It's like, alright, who wants to sacrifice it and go to the drain and start digging up the leaves?
It's fun.
And then you go and you have to, like, pull the leaves out, and the water's draining, and then we have squeegees.
adam crigler
And then your respect level bar grows, though.
tim pool
But it's for you, it's not for anybody else.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
It's like, I'm here, I wanna skate, the only way that's gonna happen is if I clean this place up.
lydia smith
I'm gonna make it happen.
tim pool
That's what I'm saying, skateboarding.
adam crigler
Well, the other day, you did it for me, though.
It was rainy.
Oh, air blowing the... You were in skating, you were like, I'm not skating.
I'm like, I wanna skate.
And you were like, I got you.
tim pool
We're gonna dispel this myth.
There's a clip we put on Instagram of Adam doing a switchblunt frontside grab in, and it is just Adam laughing afterwards, and for some reason people think it's me.
adam crigler
Yeah, I don't know why they think it's you, because you're holding the camera and it's... Oh yeah, I'm a pro.
You can hear the pure joy in my laugh of me landing that trick.
tim pool
Because it was like, it had just stopped raining, we quickly squeegeed off the ramp and blew it off, and then Adam, you got like 10 minutes before it was gonna rain, and Adam was like, I had a dream, I did this trick, I'm gonna try it.
And it was first try.
adam crigler
You're like, let me film it.
I'm like, okay.
tim pool
Yeah, I got down, I was sitting down, I went wide mode, and you did it first try.
adam crigler
It was awesome.
tim pool
And then you left because you did it first try.
adam crigler
I know, yeah.
tim pool
And people were saying I was laughing.
No, no, no, no, no.
You know why I take offense to that?
Because I'm a professional cameraman, alright?
unidentified
I know full well.
tim pool
One of the worst things you can do in skateboarding, because I've got a clip, like after the Rogan thing happened, all of these old clips of me are popping up on YouTube.
It's so weird.
It's like 14 year old skate videos.
And one of them, I think I did a backside tail slide over this gap.
So there's like a ledge and there's grass.
So you have to slide on top of the ledge to come off.
And the cameraman starts laughing.
He's like, yeah, what?
unidentified
I'm like, oh, you ruined it with music.
tim pool
What are you doing?
adam crigler
Let it let it land and roll away first before you laugh.
tim pool
You can laugh.
You can high five with a camera person is just a tripod.
Yeah, I mean, let's read some more.
lydia smith
That's nice.
tim pool
Max says you should name an award after Jussie Smollett.
That's like the opposite of what it should be named after.
Kaye Sack says, Hey guys, been following your channel for a couple of years now.
Great work.
I wonder how the hospitality industry is going to look once all this blows over.
Keep up the great work.
adam crigler
Hopefully it doesn't die.
tim pool
Oh, here we go.
Lars and Rune says, Vermin Supreme 2020.
Oh yeah.
adam crigler
Is he running again?
tim pool
A legit, a legit campaign I heard.
adam crigler
Really?
Oh wait, he's actually going to go this time.
tim pool
He's going to do a real campaign.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
He's a cool dude.
He's a libertarian.
adam crigler
He's really smart, too.
tim pool
He's really smart.
adam crigler
I've heard some of his more serious talks, and I'm like, oh, all right, vermin!
tim pool
He got me in trouble once because we were hanging out at this dude's apartment in LA, and he was in a chair.
And the dude's, what is he, like 60?
He's got the boot on his head and everything, and he was spinning around in the chair going like, whee!
And it's like 3 in the morning, and the people downstairs are like, shut up!
And he was like, what are you doing?
unidentified
Quiet!
tim pool
Vermin!
What are you doing?
Vermin's awesome.
adam crigler
He's Vermin Supreme.
unidentified
I love it.
tim pool
Burra Streaming says, my great uncle died at the Battle of the Bulge.
lydia smith
Oh, much respect.
tim pool
TheRedBikeMaster says, having a rough day.
You guys are keeping me company.
Thanks.
No problemo.
adam crigler
Good to be here for you.
tim pool
DarkRanji says, Welp boys and girl, I'm off tomorrow to someone, uh, off tomorrow to someone got infected R.I.P.
Oh, bummer.
adam crigler
Did you get infected?
Or is that what?
I'm not sure what he's saying.
That sucks.
lydia smith
Infection's bad.
tim pool
DudeGuyMcPant says, yo, weapons designer and O1 firearms dealer.
Would like to chat about weapons sometime.
Hit me up if you want to, if you want me to share my experience.
Send everything to, uh, Mr. Adam Krigler.
adam crigler
Yeah, hit me up, hit me up.
tim pool
That's the pathway towards, you know.
lydia smith
Timothy.
tim pool
Well, no, just to the show in general.
lydia smith
Tip cast, yeah.
tim pool
Jack Daw says, J.B.
and Willen participant.
Alright.
What is that, 25 aid?
I can't, sorry.
David says, I'm a vet, it's cause of my service, I'm against war.
Much respect.
unidentified
Yep.
adam crigler
Right on.
tim pool
Michelle Mybell says, I was so stoked to see the marina owner would not release Governor Whitmer's husband's boat.
That was hilarious.
lydia smith
Oh, that's awesome.
tim pool
Thanking all those that have served and have died for our freedom.
lydia smith
Amen.
adam crigler
Hear, hear.
tim pool
That's ultimate Karen-ing.
We're gonna lock everybody down, but I get my boat first.
No, sorry dude, back of the line.
That's why America's great, because it's like, I don't care if you're a noble, get out of here.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
They're not happy about it.
adam crigler
Appreciate it.
tim pool
Grim Soul Banisher says, Armed Forces Day is for those that currently wear the uniform.
Veterans Day is for those that used to wear it.
Memorial Day is for those that never took it off.
RIP my Uncle Donnie.
1991 Desert Storm.
Much respect.
lydia smith
Much respect, yeah.
adam crigler
Here, here, Uncle Donnie.
tim pool
Talbot says, also, I always appreciate love as a veteran, but Memorial Day is to honor the dead.
Honor those that gave all for we, who still stand.
adam crigler
100%.
tim pool
Albi Dam says, are all of y'all roommates?
Technically, yes.
The pandemic really jammed up the plans for expansion.
So not only that, I mean, hey, it kind of revealed New Jersey was a bad idea in the first place.
So at least now I have the opportunity to find a building not in this state.
Harkes says, hello not Joe Rogan, not Jamie and soy Jesus.
lydia smith
That's me, not Jamie.
tim pool
Kyle Harmon says, journalist award in the voice of South Park, the Timmer.
lydia smith
Yes.
unidentified
Ooh, yeah.
tim pool
Chaotic says, happy Memorial Day Beanie Crew.
Once again, I appreciate everything you guys do.
Off topic, do any of you enjoy any whiskeys?
Scotches?
I personally enjoy Lafraig and Highland Park.
lydia smith
Oh, I got your man right there.
adam crigler
A Lafraig is definitely one of my favorites.
This guy spoiled me here.
tim pool
Well, hold on.
adam crigler
Go ahead.
tim pool
We did an event out here, and Antifa threatened to burn the theater down.
And so, like, everything was up in the air.
We worked really, really hard, and eventually we were able to pull it off.
And so I went out, and I bought a Lafraig.
How do you say it?
Lafraig?
adam crigler
Lafraig.
tim pool
Lafraig.
unidentified
25.
tim pool
And I'm not a drinker.
I do not like drinking.
I thought it tasted like an ashtray.
adam crigler
I love that smoky flavor though.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Oh, it's so good.
tim pool
But it's very expensive.
It was like $700.
adam crigler
Really good.
tim pool
But it was this big event we put on.
It ended up being, I think, I think for me it was a net loss.
I'm not entirely sure.
That's about to shut off.
Is that not plugged in?
The camera.
lydia smith
Oh, I don't know.
I'll look at it.
Carry on, carry on.
tim pool
Yeah, it's about to turn it off.
All right, let's see.
Where are we at?
All the other cameras are good, right?
That's weird.
Why did the cord come out?
adam crigler
No idea.
lydia smith
I got it.
tim pool
All right, let's see what we got.
Zachary says, Adam, if you could assign an alimency power to the three of you, what would they be?
Also, I have the re-ring the subscription bell several times.
I've had to re-ring.
adam crigler
Oh, that's weird.
tim pool
What's an alimency power?
adam crigler
I don't know, is that just like allocating power among us all?
Man, that feels like a trap.
tim pool
In the power strip, is there a button?
adam crigler
I would say, I mean Tim and I have been friends for a long time, so I don't know, I've always done my own thing my entire life, so it's, I don't know, I feel like I'm just hanging out with my friend, even though like technically you're my boss, I guess?
I don't know, we're doing this show together, so.
tim pool
Is the button on?
adam crigler
I would say that him and I are about equal, and then Lydia's kind of just standing on to the side doing her own thing, too.
I don't know.
This is too much of a trap.
I feel like I don't even want to touch this.
tim pool
What's wrong with it?
No, I mean, is it plugged in?
That's weird.
Open the LCD, take a look at what it says.
Does it say battery dying?
Try and unplug it from the back and plug it back in or something.
Clearly the plug's not working.
I think it's the power strip.
adam crigler
Everything else is in the power strip.
tim pool
Yeah, but the power strip has individual buttons.
You can press a button.
adam crigler
Allomancy from Mistborn.
Now I know what you're talking about.
All right.
Thank you everybody.
Now I actually can answer this question.
So, so basically what we're saying is, uh, what would each of the powers be?
Like what kind?
Hmm.
tim pool
What does alimansi mean?
adam crigler
Well, that's kind of the magic in Mistborn, one of Brandon Sanderson's books.
You fixed it?
Man, it's been a few years since I've actually read that series.
It was good.
It was basically like the manipulation of metal, alimansi.
tim pool
We fixed the camera.
adam crigler
Yeah, I can't really think about it.
Good.
We fixed the camera, everybody.
tim pool
Now, Adam, stop stalling for time.
All right, where are we at?
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
The Grizzly says, hey there, Tim Kass.
How's it going?
I wanted to tell you something.
A lot of times in your videos, I always hear you say, maybe we can break some echo chambers.
In a pretty doubting voice, let me just tell you this.
You did.
You helped me back in.
And then half, let's see if I can try and just jump ahead and figure out where the next half of that Oh yeah, I want to hear this.
lydia smith
This sounds good.
tim pool
There we go.
In 2017, your coverage of the Mueller report helped me out of a leftist echo chamber and helped my drift toward the right.
Not exclusively, though, with help from Razorfist and Styx, but I did want to let you know that you help people out.
I appreciate it.
I don't necessarily, like, it's... I guess you could say that if you think you're getting better information that's fact-checked and you trust it, then it's a good thing.
That's all that really matters.
Like, I don't do the things that I do because I'm trying to convince someone to be right or left.
lydia smith
You're trying to break echo chambers, though, right?
tim pool
I mean, to an extent.
It's not so much about telling someone what they should or shouldn't do, it's about being like, here's what happened and here's what I think about it.
And I think too many people don't pay attention.
So I guess it's a good thing, right?
I'd be happy about it.
Look at this, we are slammed, man.
Also, it's like 90 degrees in here, so.
adam crigler
It is pretty hot in here.
lydia smith
We're gonna get a little annoying hum, sorry guys.
tim pool
Yeah, the hum's coming back because we're putting the AC back on.
lydia smith
Even I'm gonna pass out, I'm always cold.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's pretty hot.
tim pool
Let's see what we got.
adam crigler
It's pretty hot in here.
tim pool
Let's see if this thing's gonna tell me where we're at.
This room's boiling.
78 degrees 77 Let's see where we at Logan or says you were talking about selling skateboards on on the podcast I own a sawmill and woodworking business.
Is there a way I could build one and send it to you baby test out.
adam crigler
Oh, yes.
tim pool
Oh, yes Go to timcast.com slash donate.
There's a P.O.
box and you can send whatever you want.
adam crigler
Yeah, send a deck and then if it's solid quality, maybe we can work something out.
tim pool
We bought some of that rubber grip tape.
adam crigler
It's pretty good.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
I haven't really been able to have a heavy skate day because it rained that day.
tim pool
It rained.
It's been raining nonstop.
adam crigler
It's been raining.
tim pool
We'll see what happens.
Maybe not tomorrow, but I think the day after tomorrow we'll have a heavy session.
Maybe we'll get some crazy tricks in.
adam crigler
Sounds good.
tim pool
I'm really inching for some Switch Blunt flips out.
We'll see what happens.
lydia smith
Uh, where are we at?
tim pool
Okay, Mr. Ghost says, the entire chat wants to know, is Lydia single?
Now you might get tens of thousands from superchats wanting a date.
You're welcome.
No, don't answer.
Honestly, just tell them you're single.
lydia smith
Okay, I'm single.
There you go.
tim pool
No, I'm kidding.
lydia smith
Just kidding.
tim pool
You can answer that if you want, or you can just keep going.
lydia smith
No worries.
tim pool
Honestly, I have no idea.
You see on the topic of women most affected by COVID they are mentioning.
Unpaid labor.
What does it even mean?
Who pays and how much government pays them from taxes?
Husband has to pay.
lydia smith
Honestly, I have no idea.
tim pool
They have to be mothers.
WBen95 says, greetings from California's Central Valley.
Things over here haven't been too crazy.
Recently, a local grocery store chain quarantined all their workers, all their works, from a store because one person tested positive.
lydia smith
Yikes.
tim pool
Mark Robertshaw says, to all the soldiers that died in past wars fighting for freedom and to protect the American dream, if they could see America now, they would have pride or regret with their... Now, would they have pride or regret with their sacrifice?
adam crigler
Who knows?
tim pool
I can't tell you.
What I can tell you is Mr. Freedom Tunes, if you guys are familiar with Freedom Tunes, check him out on YouTube, did a video where social justice warriors bring World War II soldiers back from the past to help fight the rise of Nazis.
And then the social justice warriors are like, they say something like, the Nazis think that men in same-sex marriages shouldn't be allowed.
And then the soldier goes, what?
Are you serious?
You guys think two people of the same sex should be allowed to get married?
Like, back then, their views were not progressive at all.
Like, if you took someone from back in the past, World War II brought them today, they would be on the right, for sure.
Actually, no, there's a video of a World War II vet in a wheelchair, and some Antifa guy threw water at him.
Like, these people are nuts, man.
Point of personal privilege says, for my buddy HF Lopez, USMC Fallujah Iraq RIP 2004.
Rest in peace.
And a beer emoji, man.
lydia smith
Respect, yeah.
tim pool
Rest in peace.
Sarah, thanks for the super chat.
Josh in Jesus says, I have long thought we should slash the police force by 80%.
This situation has proven that too many cops have too much time on their hands.
Definitely.
lydia smith
Entirely possible.
tim pool
Stewboy says, your song, Will of the People.
The video style you described is just like the video for Brothers in Arms by Dire Straits.
It's amazing.
Might be worth checking out.
I will check it out.
Yes, they did.
Burns March Mars says Pulitzer Prizes don't impress us they gave one to
Durante signed the victims of the Holodomor yes they did Colbeck says radical centrism the crazy notion that both
left and right have good ideas to bring to the table yes they do sneaky Soviet
says enjoying the Memorial Day with Tim cast IRL and conquering the galaxy
install Stellaris through technological superiority
I have a mod for carrier class ships.
Fighter swarms are hilariously OP.
I'll take your word for it.
adam crigler
I hear it's a cool game.
tim pool
Jeff says, I recently joined Twitter.
It might have been a huge mistake.
At an instructor he used to say, common sense is dead.
It died a long time ago.
Yeah.
Gerg C says his podcast has become my go-to evening entertainment except on Thursdays and obviously the weekends.
Thank you guys very much.
Are you trying to say that you're gonna go watch Crowder instead of us?
lydia smith
Are you really gonna watch Crowder?
Come on, man.
tim pool
No, it's funny though.
adam crigler
No, Crowder's cool.
He's a funny dude.
tim pool
And he does one show a week, so I'm kind of like, it's good that people watch him.
We do shows every day.
adam crigler
Crowder's great.
tim pool
TheGrizzly says... Oh, I'm sorry, I read that one already.
AllMetalMike says, My two ex-great-grandfather fought in the Civil War.
My grandfather fought in World War I. My uncle fought in World War II.
Wow, man.
lydia smith
That is impressive.
High five.
adam crigler
Right on.
tim pool
ViaWolf says, Tim, you ever host a Civ VI MP stream?
I haven't played Civ VI in a long time.
I used to play like every day after work, but now we do this.
adam crigler
I think it's the free game right now for Epic Games.
tim pool
Civ VI?
adam crigler
Yeah, they gave out Grand Theft Auto V, now they're doing Civilization VI.
tim pool
But there's a new expansion for it.
adam crigler
Oh, is that what's happening?
tim pool
Yeah, so it's like you get the game and they want you to get the expansion.
Yeah, of course.
I love Civilization, man.
Chris Christian says, The truth just sounds different.
Some chicken, some movie.
Damien Maddox says, Take my money, Beanie Bro.
Any plans to go to Spotify like Rogan?
I'm already on Spotify.
My podcast.
If they start hosting videos and it's open to the public, I'll definitely put my videos there too.
Chaotic says, The Founding Fathers may not have been successful in destroying slavery in their time, but the foundations they laid down had been crucial in defeating it after they passed.
The Founding Fathers won.
100%.
Smart dudes.
Let's see, Perik Tiwari says, on Friday's podcast you talked about a possible correlation between population size and authoritarianism.
India is a democracy with a population of 1.3 billion.
China's way is not the only way.
Agreed.
adam crigler
All right.
tim pool
Max Reed says, hey Tim and Soy Hero, are you guys hip to Glenn Cook's books?
The Black Company series is a dark fantasy masterwork and his Garrett files are the funniest.
Thanks for all you do.
adam crigler
Not familiar.
I don't, but if you're suggesting it to me, maybe I should check it out.
lydia smith
I'll write this down.
adam crigler
Glenn Cook.
unidentified
Cool.
adam crigler
Soy hero, thanks.
tim pool
so.
Yes!
Paul N. says Jefferson Davis, president of the Confederacy, Democrat.
Fart noises.
Totally jumbled.
Tim, please consider having this woman on your podcast.
She has an important view of why so many people are leaving the left.
Dr. Carolyn Borisenko.
Yes.
I do know Dr. Carolyn.
She's my friend.
She would be awesome on the podcast.
Soon because we're lifting lockdown.
lydia smith
Yeah, she's gonna teach me how to knit.
tim pool
Oh, really?
lydia smith
She is.
tim pool
Right on.
Judge Tater says, Hey Tim, I listen to you guys at work.
Real sorry to hear about your friend.
I lost one to the radical misandrist feminists.
She used to be so small, sweet, and stood up for me.
Now I'm the enemy to her.
And I'll tell you what.
I had someone who was my friend, this is years ago, come up to me one day and just start telling me about the Scum Manifesto.
You know what that is?
adam crigler
Oh, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
I know about it.
You know what the Scum Manifesto is?
Uh-uh.
I think it's the woman who shot Andy Warhol or whatever.
Is that who it is?
adam crigler
Yeah, I think it is.
tim pool
It's talking about how men need to be killed or something, and all men.
It's psychotic.
And she was serious.
I'm like, you for real with this stuff?
You're going nuts, man.
It's scary.
lydia smith
It's so hard.
tim pool
Ben Lowry says, Afghanistan Army vet here.
Would love to talk to y'all about my experience.
Had to testify in a murder-suicide trial.
Danny Chen Army.
unidentified
Wow.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Feel free to hit up Adam, right?
Yeah, hit me up.
On Twitter, at Adam Krigler.
He is the contact for tips, stories, anything you want to send.
Kyle Miller says, SJWs infect popular outlets and franchises because they cannot gain popularity on their own.
Look at Star Wars.
I agree.
Chet Chisholm says I didn't walk away from the left, the left walked away from me.
HCQ stuff helped clarify anything?
I'm just digging into some autopsy stuff for you too.
adam crigler
Yeah, no, he's talking to me.
Yeah, I read some of that stuff.
The really, the main thing is, is we are trying not to talk about coronavirus.
I mean, we've covered pretty much every aspect of it.
And it's like, there's a lot of information that you're sending me, but it's like, how to, how to just like talk about that.
And it's just that when we really want to get away from it, because I don't know.
It's just kind of where we're at.
tim pool
I feel like we were bashed over the head with a big mallet with coronavirus labeled on it for months.
It was crazy when the lockdown first started, everything stopped and it was like, brutal.
Now things are getting back and it's like, we can talk about Joe Rogan and Spotify?
adam crigler
Like, yes!
Let's talk about not... It's wonderful.
tim pool
We don't, yeah man.
adam crigler
But I appreciate your chat though, thank you.
tim pool
I like the stuff we talked about today with freedom, UBI, civic, all that stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah, I dig it.
tim pool
It's like, I'm just someone, we want to have fun.
adam crigler
Recognizing heroes.
tim pool
Grim Soul Banisher says, from now on, mandatory Mayo Mondays.
Partial B to Lord Mayo, the hairless guinea pig.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
YuYu says, President of Madagascar, Andre Raholina has claimed that the World Health Organization offered his country the sum of $20 million of bribe to poison COVID-19 cure.
Whoa, is that true?
What?
I'll have to look that one up.
adam crigler
Never heard that.
tim pool
Jet Chisolm says, in Revelations, Jesus comes back and shoots swords.
Is that true?
lydia smith
Possibly somewhere in the book of Revelation.
There's some crazy stuff in there.
tim pool
I added a couple cards to my kicker.
Superchat, but I forgot to ask you what you guys thought of the new Ikora set.
I just got a box, but I'm building a deck for Friday Night Magic.
Thank goodness the local games shops didn't close here in Florida.
Team Red.
I added a couple cards to my, um, kicker?
adam crigler
Kaikar.
tim pool
Kicker.
Kicker?
Kicker!
adam crigler
It's red, white, and blue though.
tim pool
Some broken cards.
adam crigler
I like the set.
I just played some sealed earlier and it was fun.
It's fun to do limited.
You really get a feel for the sets a little more.
tim pool
I don't like the set.
adam crigler
No?
Play some limited!
tim pool
It's totally different.
I like the companion idea, I do.
It does feel like they ripped off Hearthstone.
Because Hearthstone did that first.
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
Hearthstone has a series of cards that are like, at the start of the game, if your deck only fits these criteria, then do X. And so it's like, one guy is, if your deck only has cards that cost three or more, then you start the game with this creature, or you gain these three cards, something like that.
adam crigler
Eh, Hearthstone, meh.
I tried it.
tim pool
Magic has followed a lot of what Hearthstone had ended up doing.
Hearthstone's super simple.
But I like Commander.
Sean El Bucholoco says, When you redefine racism to exclude hatred of a particular race and convince that race they are not allowed to defend themselves, that race becomes a fair game for hateful acts.
That's why racism is racism.
They're trying to change the definition for political power.
Colt says, The Council of Nicaea did not edit the Bible.
That is a lie pushed by the movie Zeitgeist.
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
Is that where that comes from?
Yeah, Zeitgeist had a lot of wrong stuff in it for sure.
Stephen says, careful Tim, the COVID will hear you if you say its name too much.
Don't say its name three times in the mirror.
Talbot says, the left used to say it's time to be a human doing and say to go protest.
Now they say it's ableist, but you should still go protest.
Matthew Hammond says, Now you know why conservatives are against a living and
breathing constitution.
The left will make the constitution whatever they want it to be,
if they are allowed to define it, amend it, to change it.
But it is amendable.
The problem is zealotry.
We defend against cultist authoritarians.
lydia smith
Amendments require all the states, don't they?
adam crigler
A majority.
lydia smith
Yeah, they require tons of states.
Thousands on a whim.
tim pool
and allergies. Roger says you're not being offended on behalf of black people for Biden, you're being
unidentified
I agree.
tim pool
alarmed that he is so openly racist. You are always right to hate racism. I agree. Yeah. Micah says
King James took out entire chapters. Yeah, they called him apocryphal. Long Dong John says if you
vote for Trump, you ain't black.
Does that mean Sean King voted for Trump?
Ooh, spicy.
lydia smith
Good question.
tim pool
Dread Forger says, prisoners equals liability if they die in prison.
Definitely.
Mark Robertshaw says, as a white male, I definitely feel superior to Dwayne The Rock Johnson.
The borderline minimum wage job is so much better than his job.
I'm so privileged because of race.
No.
Chet Chisholm says, we cleared patients out and canceled procedures to make room and preserve stock.
People often go to the ER for things they don't need and now they don't.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
So I think we have to start speeding things up and I hate to do this to you guys, but this is often something, uh, often what happens.
adam crigler
Oh, it's already 10.
tim pool
Yeah.
We get, we get too many super chats.
It becomes very difficult to read through everything.
So that means we're not going to be able to read through the smaller super chats for that.
I apologize.
Later in the night, it happens.
I'll spin the UFO for you all but Adam's gonna spin the UFO Chase Smith, thanks the super chat the dark wall says I
love you and your content for years You guys are truly a treasure and a much-needed time, but
let's cut to the chase. I don't want to be Tim body pillow when
Thank you.
Thanks for joining.
Evil Me says, lockdown was useless.
My friends and I drive semis.
Been out here the whole time, been to NYC, Jersey, Detroit.
Out of 20 people, none of us got sick.
About one third of the people I know who stayed home got sick.
Love y'all, be safe.
And Cuomo confirmed that.
David says, Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution.
He shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed.
Trump can make states reopen through enforcing the rights to
assemble from the First Amendment.
But businesses and stuff, there's probably nuances there, and there's courts.
I'd like to check the nuances.
Vosht says, SJW hole, is that like the front hole?
Slav in the chat says, greetings Western imperialists.
I very much enjoy this show.
Also, I am sending you a copy of Future by Dmitry Glukhovsky, so do not buy it.
Don't worry, it's English copy, so even Western spies can enjoy sci-fi literature from Glorious Federation.
unidentified
Very good, thank you.
adam crigler
Alright.
Nice.
tim pool
Andrew says, looking for a good sci-fi book series?
Check out Galaxy's Edge.
It's by Jason Ansbach and Nick Cole.
It's not Star Wars, but better.
It's a bit of a complex storyline, so check their website for details.
adam crigler
Galaxy's Edge.
Cool, thanks.
tim pool
Eggman says, aside from the economy, after all this COVID business is said and done, do you guys think everything will return to the way it was before?
I mean, stuff like celebrity worship and all that nonsense.
Somewhat.
unidentified
Probably.
tim pool
I think there'll be things that'll be different.
adam crigler
Not 100% though.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
The bubble's been popped.
tim pool
For sure.
For sure.
Connor, thanks for joining.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Sue, thanks for the super chat.
Hedge, thanks for the super chat.
Mac Hero says, why was it so easy to compare SJW ideology influence to infants watching Finger Family?
Because they're children.
lydia smith
That's basically what it is, yeah.
adam crigler
That's basically what we went over.
tim pool
Mark Wolf says, I am starting to view the issues of today by this filter.
Good men forsooth are scarce.
There are hardly as many as there are gates of Thebes or mouths of the rich Nile.
Juvenal sat.
Jack Conte.
In Illinois, my apartment complex emailed residents to inform on each other if we don't wear masks in the hallways.
Amenities closed.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
I'm considering not paying rent until Illinois gets together as my protest.
Gets it together.
Professor Remendev says, so if dry real news content isn't profitable, how do you make a news organization that can last?
It's subsidized.
Now, news was always a loss leader.
It's a marketing thing.
You do breaking news, you get a bunch of attention for your brand or whatever.
Now they've become profit engines, so...
Maybe that's the plan.
unidentified
I don't know.
I don't know.
tim pool
Awesome.
Don't you know it!
No, come on.
Lydia, thanks for all the stuff you do. Keep up the great work also since it's Memorial Day.
Semper Fi Philip, keep watching from on high buddy. Awesome.
Awesome. Kells, thanks for joining. EF says this stream should be illegal. Common sense is not allowed
on YouTube. Don't you know it? No, come on. Joe Rogan's got a huge show. That's true. Let's
see. Baggin says, have any of you considered government is complicit in supporting violations of the First Amendment by giving legal protections to social media companies that file as a public platform?
The publisher platform argument is wrong.
Many people get that wrong.
And it's actually the First Amendment that protects these companies from having to host content they don't want.
That's the challenge.
The government can't create a law that would prohibit their ability to speak as an entity.
I think we need to change it, but it's actually the First Amendment.
The government can't compel you to say something.
So these companies are like, we can post whatever we want, no matter what.
I think there are problems there.
We'll have to figure it out.
It's actually like the traditionally liberal position, government regulation over these issues, you know?
But the left today, it's like they want power, so.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Aaron Larson says, and the sign said, long-haired freaky people need not apply.
So I tucked my hair up under my beanie and I came to ask him why.
Song stuck in my head now.
Thanks guys and gal, haha.
adam crigler
As my hair's totally tucked into my beanie.
tim pool
As soon as we're done, I'm going to tell the robot to play it.
adam crigler
Nice.
The robot.
lydia smith
You can't say her name.
tim pool
No.
Ricky J says here in the UK you can discriminate for employment if there's a legitimate reason.
For example, hiring a woman for social care for women or hiring fit people to work in construction.
That's true for America too.
It is.
Non Servium says service should guarantee voting for commander-in-chief.
If you know how to balance a checkbook and pay in even a dollar more than you take out in welfare programs at the end of the year, you should be able to vote for how our finances in this country go.
I love that episode.
I haven't seen it.
Is it good?
You should watch Solar Opposites made by Justin Roiland.
One episode has the girl character trying to smash the patriarchy but has to start a
boys club because everything is already inclusive.
Yes, I saw that.
lydia smith
I love that episode.
adam crigler
It was awesome.
tim pool
I haven't seen it.
It was a good one.
So she's told by her teacher to take down the patriarchy for her assignment.
But everything she finds is inclusive.
So she makes a boys club started by a girl that says no girls allowed and a bunch of
boys show up to protest it.
And she's trying to start it so she can smash it.
But then the boys show up and accuse her of being a bigot because she excluded girls and they chase her out.
lydia smith
It's so great.
unidentified
I loved it.
lydia smith
I really enjoyed that.
adam crigler
That's funny.
Nice.
tim pool
Kyle Harmon says, Ivan at Niage.
Let's go join the Navy.
Do you remember that Simpsons episode?
Yvonne et Niage?
unidentified
No.
lydia smith
I feel like I should join the Navy.
tim pool
You don't remember that song?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Yvonne et Niage.
adam crigler
Sing it, Tim.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So it was the Simpsons, the Navy recruiter hired Barton as like boy band to just sing it and it says join the Navy backwards.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Yvonne et Niage.
adam crigler
Nice.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Nanan says voting rights should be granted to landowners, the most affected by most of the decisions made.
One vote per acre of land zone residential owned rounded down to the nearest integer.
You know, I understand why the history used to be that way, but now I understand why it's
not that way because we're not actually a country of landowners anymore.
Most people live in rental properties and stuff.
Sketchy says, the idea of the citizenship for service makes more sense as they have
taken a stake in government, much like the original idea behind the property for voting,
as taxes pan to it, but with it being more meritocratic.
Perpetual Punster says, in Starship Troopers, anyone could apply to be a citizen and work
However, two years of civil service guaranteed citizenship.
Oh, I see.
It guarantees.
That's the point.
EF says, what is your opinions of the Biden gaffes?
He's sun setting and old and he can't think straight anymore.
adam crigler
How many gaffes does it take to finally just have dementia?
tim pool
Exactly.
How many gaffes equals one dementia?
adam crigler
Or when you open your mouth and it's always a gaffe?
tim pool
It's better keeping his mouth shut.
Combustion says, I wonder how the acoustics are in the jail and if it could work as a recording studio.
adam crigler
Probably.
It looked like it could.
tim pool
Cyberpunk says, remembering my first cousin.
Do you know what SPC means?
lydia smith
Sgt.
Private First Class or something?
tim pool
SBC Daniel J. Agami.
Died from an IED in Iraq 2007.
We must never allow neocons to get in power again.
Sorry to hear, man.
A Handy Redneck says, Tim, the church churches used to be the focal points for community togetherness.
Quilting, bees, bake sales, etc.
Yup, for sure.
I know because I grew up in, I went to a Catholic school and they would do weekly gatherings.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And you actually paid less tuition if you were parishioners and you showed up to their events and stuff.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's interesting.
tim pool
Let's see, David says, I'm an Iraq veteran, and I have some pretty severe service-connected disabilities.
I don't have full VA health care benefits.
I don't want them.
lydia smith
Oh man, thank you for your service, dude.
tim pool
Let's see, what does it say?
C. Collins, 68.
Paying people to commit crimes reminds me of the new Ghost in the Shell, where they had this concept of sustainable war.
Controlled wars to help boost the world economy and control the population.
Oh man, that sounds terrible.
unidentified
Yikes.
tim pool
Cal Harmon says, giving the homeless houses.
My experience is pawn shop work.
Some customers have paid so much interest to the shop, we have mercy on them and give them their collateral back for free.
100% they turn around and pawn it right back.
Yikes.
Just Jen, thanks for becoming a member.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Vanessa says, the elementary school my youngest goes to has ranger bucks.
They can buy toys, school supplies, and if they have enough, extra recess.
unidentified
Wow.
lydia smith
Cool.
tim pool
Okay.
I had something in first grade where they would, if you did good, you would get a ticket.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So, if you got, and if you got ten tickets, you can buy a toy.
It wasn't necessarily the same, but I thought that was awesome.
You know, later on in hindsight, I liked the idea of being able to buy toys for sure.
Krizzy Kitty says, I went to high school that basically paid you credits to
use at the school store.
They had more than candy and school tools.
I got a VCR at one point.
unidentified
Wow, VCR!
adam crigler
Oh, that's awesome!
Random.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Sean says, the government is amazing with money.
Yes, let's have those people teach the kids.
Public school curriculum would be worse than having no financial education to figure it out for yourself.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's a good point.
lydia smith
Alright, that's fair.
tim pool
Johnny Cash says, Tim, please invite Styx, Hex, and Hammer on for a general policy discussion.
Not a debate, necessarily, but something I think would be a good collaboration for both of your audiences.
Yeah, Styx is awesome.
I want him to come here and sit down and hang out.
adam crigler
Yeah, that'd be fun.
tim pool
But we're locked down.
I guess, is he in Europe now?
lydia smith
I thought he was overseas last I checked.
tim pool
Does he live there now?
lydia smith
I don't know.
tim pool
Styx is great.
He's a smart fella.
adam crigler
He's funny.
tim pool
The Unrepresented says, automated mining is now in some places with driverless dump trucks.
unidentified
Wow.
adam crigler
Interesting.
tim pool
Randy says I'm moving to New Zealand ASAP.
They have an actual directory for job seekers.
On top of that, I refuse to spend ungodly amounts of money for medical treatment.
lydia smith
Whether they want you.
tim pool
I heard that New Zealand is very... What's the right word for it?
Almost homogenistic politically, culturally.
Like, everyone is dronish.
Like, there's no dissenting thought.
Everybody... It's hard to explain, I guess.
But you know how the left is?
The SAWs?
Imagine a whole country where everyone is just homogenous in their thoughts.
lydia smith
So I wonder if that's partly because...
They have such a discriminating immigration policy.
They're an island.
They can do whatever they want.
They let in whoever they want.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
And they're really, really picky.
tim pool
Homogenized culture.
lydia smith
Highly educated and yeah.
So, I wonder.
tim pool
Yeah.
Sean Moore says, what is wrong with a burger if it's just beef and cheese?
The bread is bad though.
You know, I haven't had a burger in a long time because I don't like eating beef.
It doesn't sit well with me.
And I stopped having dairy.
lydia smith
So there's only bread left?
tim pool
No, I don't even like bread.
I have a weird diet.
I don't even know what to call it.
I call it the Tim diet.
It's not keto.
It's not vegan.
It's not paleo.
I eat some vegan food because of this guy.
Yeah.
It's like, I'm like, I was eating something.
I can't remember what it was.
And I was like, it's 99% vegan.
So it's not vegan at all.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Cause it was like vegan food, but I put mayonnaise on it.
adam crigler
Right.
Well, it's because you tried some of my food and you're like, that's pretty legit.
tim pool
Yeah, to be honest.
adam crigler
Not bad.
tim pool
So Adam's got like vegan freezer food that you can like nuke real quick.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And I got fish sticks and I microwaved them and then I put it in the box.
You can't do that.
And I was like, well, how am I?
What about my snacks?
My snacks.
unidentified
My post-show snacks.
adam crigler
If I'm gonna cook something, I'll cook something.
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
Right, exactly.
adam crigler
I just want something fast.
tim pool
I just want to put something in the microwave for 30 seconds and then schlop some barbecue sauce on it and eat it.
lydia smith
And probably mayonnaise.
tim pool
So then we got chicken nuggets and then some vegan stuff too.
That all works for me.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
That's why it's like a weird Tim diet.
unidentified
Indeed.
tim pool
Alright, we just had a big ol' YouTube jump.
I love when that happens.
unidentified
We're doing great though.
tim pool
The superchats just jump all in at one time.
adam crigler
Yeah, thanks for hanging out everybody.
tim pool
Oh man, we got so many superchats.
unidentified
Heavens me.
lydia smith
I hope everyone's enjoying their barbecues.
adam crigler
wow i can't there we go there we go all right we found it christian moore says adam that child that that biden child predator video creeped out my whole family invading personal space like that can't be normal oh did you post the biden video no someone tagged me in it and i i commented on it because it's i said what what can be what has been seen cannot be unseen And it's, it's, I mean, when you really see it and it's basically this guy, he's a professional, I don't know if he's a psychologist or whatever it is.
He's a doctor that works with, you know, victims in this line of videos.
And he's basically saying like what he's doing is grooming children.
Oh, right.
Leads into being used to being touched and less likely to like report it and talk about it.
It's bad.
It's, it just, man, I just, he creeps me out.
He's such a creepy old dude.
Like, oh, God.
tim pool
Jon Stewart on The Daily Show did a segment called The Audacity of Grope.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Where they show one of the clips and then Jon Stewart takes hand sanitizer and puts it in his eyes.
unidentified
I wish I could understand, but it's like, he's a public figure.
adam crigler
Dude, disappear.
Go retire, please.
tim pool
He apologized for it, and then kept doing it.
adam crigler
He's not sorry.
He said sorry for appearances.
tim pool
I'm gonna be bold, bro.
adam crigler
Oh, really?
tim pool
You're gonna be bold?
adam crigler
I mean, I don't know much about him.
I know he's Biden's son.
tim pool
You know Hunter Biden?
lydia smith
I'm very familiar with Hunter Biden.
tim pool
You heard the stories about what he does at those clubs?
lydia smith
Yep.
He's a hot mess.
adam crigler
I don't know if I want to know.
lydia smith
Dude, he's such a mess.
adam crigler
Oh, I knew that.
I know he's a druggie, right?
lydia smith
He took his brother's widow and knocked her up shortly after her brother died.
tim pool
Wow, I didn't know that.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's great.
And he got caught with crack pipes and stuff.
He's a hot mess.
tim pool
He's a hot mess.
I wonder what Biden was doing to him when he was growing up.
lydia smith
I don't want to think about it.
Poor guy.
adam crigler
You know, I never even thought about that.
What has been seen.
tim pool
Sat says, exploitation is not good, but what do you do when the third world is willing to work
for one dollar a day to Americans, one dollar a day is exploitation, to the third world they sign
up for it every day. And that's been a big argument that it actually helps them.
But we're a community of Americans, man.
You know, it's like if you don't want to pay an American for the hard work they do, you're basically, you're extracting our resources.
adam crigler
But it really doesn't help them though, because there's multiple factories and those factories themselves compete with each other to get the best price.
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
So even that dollar a day will eventually turn into 75 cents a day.
And there's going to be a factory that will be like, you know what?
We'll offer that.
And then everyone will move to that cheaper factory because that gives them a better price.
tim pool
Here's a good one from Diacritical1.
He says, being able to call POC white supremacist is the whitest of all privileges.
I know, right?
I've seen it so many times.
It's amazing.
A 20-year-old white woman with purple hair yelling at a black man that he's racist.
And I'm like, what?
adam crigler
I know.
tim pool
Are you kidding me?
It's ridiculous.
that only white people can be racist.
Why are you, there's a viral video of a black cop and this young college woman yelling at him
that he's supporting white supremacy.
And he's like, what?
He's like, I grew up in civil rights, we talking about these people, man.
They're arrogant kids, man.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Marty Peltz says, first time catching the show live.
I've watched you a long time and I haven't returned the favor though, or favor enough.
I've been watching Gold Silver with Mike Maloney and it's oddly familiar.
His biggest fear is the rise of socialism and the massive current wealth transfer.
adam crigler
Thank you, Marty.
tim pool
I think it is a problem, man, for sure.
adam crigler
Thanks for hanging out.
tim pool
Daniel says, do you think your podcast would be demonetized, Shadowband, if you invited the doctor from Sweden that decided to keep the country open?
Yes, I absolutely do.
adam crigler
Do you think so?
Really?
Of course.
tim pool
Like, they took down those two doctors.
adam crigler
In California?
tim pool
In California.
And it's like, they took down a former advisor to the World Health Organization.
That's insane.
adam crigler
Yeah, you're right.
tim pool
Bobby Arrigan says, thanks for the UFO spin and everything else y'all do.
You guys are awesome and a routine part of my days.
Keep up the good work.
We will try.
adam crigler
Thank you very much.
tim pool
Spike Tracks says, I've lost my black card and with my credit, I can't reapply.
Bummer.
James Warren says, I've watched your videos since your first show up on Crowder.
I'm out in Arizona.
Do you know a YouTuber named Razorfist?
If so, would you ever bring him on IRL?
I'd love to watch.
adam crigler
Of course.
tim pool
Yeah, Razor's awesome too.
adam crigler
I know Razorfist.
I don't really know.
lydia smith
He's loud.
tim pool
He's loud?
adam crigler
I haven't watched- He's louder than Styx.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
lydia smith
He's like really- He's like Styx on heroin.
tim pool
No, on heroin.
lydia smith
I don't know what he's on.
tim pool
He's fast.
lydia smith
Oh, okay.
So heroin slows you down.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Yeah.
Razor's like, he does his really long, fast, like, it's almost like theatrical.
adam crigler
It's great.
tim pool
I don't know a lot about Razor, though.
I do catch the occasional Styx video, and I'm familiar with Styx, and Styx is a very calm, intelligent... Razor is also, my understanding, cool dude and everything.
I've only seen a few Razorfist videos, though.
lydia smith
He does not like John McCain.
Because he's in Arizona, too, I think.
tim pool
There you go.
Andrew says, Government is made of people.
All of you are people.
Voting is not your only option to change it.
Run for government positions and carry patience and vigilance for the ideas you believe in.
Yeah, we got a few good politicians, man.
I think Rand Paul is my favorite politician right now.
adam crigler
We need more politicians.
A younger generation.
Don't just vote.
Go get a job in politics.
This is a call for more younger generations in politics.
lydia smith
Find a way to clone Rand Paul.
adam crigler
Hey, they're, they're working through this pandemic.
Boom.
tim pool
David says, did you hear about the valve China steam client alpha test?
Apparently they play a five second propaganda video on launch of any game and you can't play during certain times.
adam crigler
Oh my goodness.
I saw about it, but I haven't, I haven't dug into it.
I just noticed it earlier.
tim pool
Adam says, always great to listen to the podcast.
Adam, what is your favorite class in destiny?
adam crigler
Titan.
tim pool
Is it because it's the first one you've started as?
adam crigler
I mean, I play them all.
When I'm playing Destiny, I'm not currently playing Destiny, but I'll definitely start playing before the fall when they introduce the new expansion DLC.
But yeah, I always liked Titan.
I like their jumps the best.
And their supers.
tim pool
Sayan Davies says, have you seen about the Viggov in Australia making an infrastructure deal with China?
Reporters asked your VP and he said the US don't want to disconnect from Australia, but will if they have to.
Wow, really?
adam crigler
I don't know about that.
tim pool
Danger Supreme says, Part 1 of 4.
Hi Tim, just wanted to say some stuff about the Constitution.
Specifically about how people are changing what words mean based on today's context, and more specific, the Second Amendment.
I told you the Second Amendment, if I told you the Second Amendment based on how it was written and context of the time, it gives the right for citizens to own almost any weapon, would you believe me?
I think you meant own.
I absolutely would.
Of course I would.
And it's funny, someone made a joke about if we applied that standard, the way that the Democrats are saying, like, they're expecting you to only own a musket.
Some guy wrote this really funny thing where he's like, wake up at 3 a.m.
and someone kicks in my door, grab my rifle, run downstairs, you know, take the first shot, miss because it's smoothbore, hit the neighbor's dog, reload as they're panicking, fire, blast a four-inch hole in the chest because it's a musket round.
adam crigler
Like a metal ball, right?
tim pool
Run up to my roof and load up my artillery and fire an artillery shell.
unidentified
A cannon.
tim pool
Yeah, cannon at their car.
Tally-ho, lads!
adam crigler
All right.
tim pool
Part three says, but through manipulation of language today, people are taking away our rights.
If we go down this path, the constitution won't matter as a written document anymore.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
And where's part four at?
There we go.
But if you do believe the constitution does need to be changed regarding to the second amendment, who do you trust to correctly change it?
Man, I honestly don't know.
adam crigler
That's the key right there.
That's why we need younger people in politics, smart people.
tim pool
But times change and people keep I know you're in that direction.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
We'll see.
I mean, look, Joe Rogan's, I think he's pro-gun, and he's a lefty dude.
What people in this country don't realize is that the anti-gun crowd is smaller than the pro-gun crowd, and that's why the rules aren't changing.
They don't get it.
adam crigler
It's a good point.
tim pool
It's weird when I meet these lefties who are like, nobody actually wants these things, and I'm like, bro, even blue states, like Maine, for instance, it's blue, right?
I'm pretty sure Maine is partially blue.
Is Maine blue or purple?
lydia smith
I think, let me check.
tim pool
Anyway, you've got these northeast blue-ish states.
They like their weapons, man.
Like Vermont, especially.
That's why Bernie Sanders was usually moderate.
Yep, it's blue.
And Maine, my understanding is you got concealed carry without a permit.
You just walk in, buy it, and put it in your trench coat or whatever.
Mr. Paul R. says, Awesome!
What y'all do Monday through Friday?
Love what you do 5 days a week.
Hats off to Tim Casta, 7 days a week.
Love Lydia's horizontal striped shirt.
Appreciate it.
Shadow Fox says, my uncle was a Green Beret during Operation Desert Storm, and I was a part of Operation Inherent Resolve in 2017.
And my dad is still in the army while he is 50.
unidentified
Wow.
adam crigler
Right on.
tim pool
Bobcat says, Tim, get your team some 10th Mountain Rye.
Also, don't come to PA.
You can't legally buy the good stuff here because the state owns all the liquor stores.
Yikes, really?
Come on.
adam crigler
I didn't know that.
tim pool
Xerxe says, Adam is trying to give this serious answer, yet Tim is so focused on the dead camera.
Oh, yeah.
adam crigler
Technically, it was dying.
tim pool
Sorry, it was me.
lydia smith
I was standing over there.
tim pool
I've had that.
I just don't like drinking.
I don't drink.
It's a gateway whiskey for people who don't like peaty Islays.
I've had that.
And it's a great drop of...
Anyway, I just don't like drinking.
I don't drink.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Antony says, by the power of soy Jesus, you shall not simp.
This super chat is paid for by simping point USA.
lydia smith
Thank you.
tim pool
Rockle...
Rocklexicon says, great rants tonight, Beanie Crew.
Less SJW, more gratitude for the blessings we have.
Can't wait to get my Haram Faisay shirt that I ordered.
Awesome.
adam crigler
Thank you for that.
tim pool
Raulgan says, What is your opinion on China's digital currency that is backed by gold?
Will this be their first step on controlling crypto?
Maybe it's an attempt to trick people into buying it up with real cash and then they just say, OK, now we don't honor it.
Bye bye.
adam crigler
Good point.
tim pool
Mr. Sparky says, Hey Tim, have you thought of moving to Florida?
We have no state income tax, decent housing costs, and great weather.
Excuse me?
You said great weather?
lydia smith
How dare you?
Do you like swimming when you go outside?
adam crigler
How dare you?
We lived in Florida.
We lived there.
Been there, done that.
tim pool
It was fun that it was always a tropical hurricane in Miami.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But that doesn't sound fun.
adam crigler
Even our house had like barricaded windows that we could look in.
They had like hard metal sheets in the garage that you'd have to replace if a hurricane was coming.
It was crazy.
tim pool
Michael Coventry says, you guys are awesome.
When I was younger, I tried skateboarding, smacked my nose on the board.
unidentified
Oof!
adam crigler
That sucks.
tim pool
Oh man, we just got a big old jump.
Where are we at?
There we go.
Let's see.
Sexy Goose, thanks for becoming a member.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Sam says, have you ever seen the Chinese made movie Hero starring Jet Li?
It's the most visually stunning film I've ever seen, full stop.
While it is definitely propaganda, it really gives insight into the Chinese mentality.
Ooh, I'll check that out.
That sounds cool.
It's called, what is it called?
Hero, Chinese hero.
unidentified
Cool.
tim pool
Redwall says, I think I got blackpilled.
I'm ever growing in favor of a revolution to overthrow the leftist media, big tech, and political system, similar to how the socialists want to overthrow large corporations.
Now that is dangerous thinking there, buddy.
It is tough because we got a really good thing going on and they're disrupting it, so.
It's an issue of defending the Constitution from these people.
Jonathan says, can you start doing interviews?
I want to see some hardcore interview.
Also, Soy Jesus, I think you'd be a great person, uh, to do with.
I think you mean, uh, to with?
Also, the second she- they, uh, accept this- okay, I'm just gonna read this.
Also, the second she-they lady on your cast, more she add good stuff, but it's weird when you hear her but don't see her.
lydia smith
Wait.
adam crigler
But she does have a camera.
lydia smith
I have a camera!
adam crigler
It does go to her when she speaks.
lydia smith
Sometimes I'll say a few words without showing my face, like now.
But not always.
tim pool
Solitary Gamer says, Maine is not blue with guns.
We rejected Bloomberg regulations and have constitutional carry.
That's right.
Wow, constitutional carry.
Daniel says, Do you think they would hold a double standard
than potentially not demonetizing mainstream media in Sweden,
policing just American independent commentary?
Yeah, I don't know.
unidentified
Maybe.
adam crigler
No idea.
tim pool
I don't know how it would work internationally, actually.
But I think they would take the whole video down.
Ascendiate says, Adam, what order of Knights Radiant would you be?
Stormlight Archives reference.
adam crigler
Man, that is a good book series.
This is the one I was talking about.
This is Brandon Sanderson's epic, basically.
I think it's supposed to be nine books long.
But man, what order of the Knights Radiant would it be?
Honestly, I don't know.
I couldn't answer that.
I would love to be a knight just to wear the suit and jump around and be epic.
They basically have these suits, these knight in shining armor, and it's literally shining with this power that it radiates and it uses.
tim pool
Is it sci-fi or fantasy?
adam crigler
Oh, fantasy.
I wouldn't say sci-fi.
It's more fantasy.
Maybe it's sci-fi?
I don't know.
It's got magic.
There's singers that sing to the weather.
That's a cool book series.
I've got to read in it because I haven't read it in a while.
But I guess a new book is coming out this fall, supposedly.
The fourth book.
So we have that to look forward to.
tim pool
Well, if you haven't already, smash that like button.
Just find the little button.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Take your mouse, hover over the button, and give it a little tap.
Just a little tap.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
Don't smash your mouse.
tim pool
Don't smash your mouse.
Just a little tap.
The likes really do help, and if you like the show, share it.
It's the best way.
Think about how many people are watching.
I don't even know how many, but don't worry about it.
Okay.
If every single one of these people were like, I'm going to press share, or hit the like button, we'd have like a ton of likes, and YouTube would then be like, I'm going to push this up to the top of the ranks, make sure everybody sees it.
adam crigler
Yeah, we would appreciate that.
tim pool
And it really is.
But you don't have to, you know what I mean?
It's just one of the best ways to support.
You have to.
adam crigler
Just kidding.
tim pool
Or just watch, and if you want to watch, then hit the like button, like, subscribe, and make sure to follow at AdamKrigler because that's where you guys can send stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah, I just pinned a new tweet on my page.
So if you go to my page, you see it right on the top.
There's a new tweet of today.
Just, what do you want us to talk about?
tim pool
And you can follow me at Timcast if you want to see, you know, skateboarding pictures of cats on Instagram and also on Twitter, usually just complaining about stuff, posting news sometimes.
And then also there's Sour Patch Lids.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
L-Y-D-S.
lydia smith
L-Y-D-S.
tim pool
She posts spicy memes.
lydia smith
I do.
I talk to people a lot.
tim pool
Spicy memes.
We got one more super chat and then I think we're about to head to bed.
Andals History says, Tim, do you think UBI can work when guaranteed income equals guaranteed increase in charges for things like rent, etc.? ?
Yeah, right.
That's the main problem.
lydia smith
That's the problem.
It's like minimum wage a little bit.
tim pool
If you don't have to work, and you get money, then how do we incentivize the lowest tier of labor?
In which case, nobody will want to do the basic level of work.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
Like, someone's gotta... Like, there's certain things we haven't automated yet.
And that means low-skill labor will be like, I'd rather not do it.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And someone's response to me was that I was wrong because people would then become entrepreneurs.
I'm like, no.
They would take that money and use it as an investment to something they want to do.
And then we'd have 50,000 people getting guitar lessons.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
For real.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
I think we're about to wrap it up.
We went a little long.
We went half an hour longer today, but we did it because we love you.
And I'm sorry we couldn't get to every single chat.
It just tends to happen.
Because we get, you know, too much love.
But I do appreciate it.
Make sure you check out the Harumph I Say t-shirts in the description below.
It Is Me is an awesome graphic.
I've got a pipe with bubbles coming out of it.
adam crigler
Well, they'll see it, right?
tim pool
You will see it once we sign off?
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
It's pretty good.
tim pool
In the link in the description below, you can click that, go to the store, pick up your own Harambe Fisation t-shirt.
adam crigler
Oh, you can see it.
You just scroll down a little bit.
It's there now.
Nice.
That's cool.
You can see it.
unidentified
Awesome.
tim pool
The link?
adam crigler
Or the... No, the actual shirt.
tim pool
Oh, it's on the YouTube.
adam crigler
Yeah, now you can see it.
tim pool
Oh, that's right.
I linked the store onto the YouTube.
unidentified
Nice.
adam crigler
Yeah, it looks good.
tim pool
So all you gotta do is look under the video player, and there it is, the Harambe Fisation.
You click that thing, you buy that thing, and then you got the coolest t-shirt in all the land.
unidentified
Yes!
tim pool
And soon to come a Soy Jesus or Adam Krigler, whatever the graphic is.
adam crigler
Something.
tim pool
A Lydia Night Bearer of Burdens or whatever.
I have no idea.
We'll see.
adam crigler
We'll be surprised.
tim pool
We're gonna have them all.
Thanks for hanging out everybody and we will see you all tomorrow at 8 p.m.
adam crigler
Good night everybody.
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