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May 23, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
02:30:43
TimcastIRL - Fauci Says OPEN IT UP, Lockdown BACKFIRED And Its Time To Restart Economy
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adam crigler
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lydia smith
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tim pool
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tim pool
How's it going everybody?
Welcome to the TimCast IRL podcast.
For some reason, YouTube is still broken, but whatever.
We're doing a show.
My name is Tim Poole.
I'm hanging out with the same old people.
adam crigler
You know, we're not old people, but we are the same people anyway.
Hey, everybody.
It's Adam here.
How you doing?
lydia smith
And me.
I got my cool new t-shirt.
tim pool
Look at that shirt!
lydia smith
It says Haram Faisay.
tim pool
What could that shirt possibly be?
lydia smith
I don't know.
tim pool
That shirt is dope.
If y'all want a Haram Faisay t-shirt, it is in the description.
Just click it, and it goes to the store.
And there's like a beanie shirt, but there's the Haram Faisay shirt, and we're close to getting an Adam shirt, and a Lydia shirt.
adam crigler
We're gonna do it.
tim pool
But here's the big news.
We are going to get a premium special access product.
Welcome to the show.
We're talking about the lockdown is over.
But it should be directly through the YouTube store and we will be the only channel with access to this specific
product Whoa? Yeah, this is crazy. I love that. So it's gonna be
awesome and it's gonna be beanies Specific of beanies. So welcome to the show. We're talking
unidentified
about the lockdown is over. It's almost over. Well, yeah, I was gonna say
adam crigler
Almost.
I'll believe it when I can walk outside and go bowling.
tim pool
Fauci said it.
adam crigler
I want to go bowling!
tim pool
Fauci said it.
adam crigler
Lydia, you know you want to go bowling.
lydia smith
Yeah, I definitely do.
adam crigler
It's true.
tim pool
Fauci said it.
We done.
adam crigler
So that means because he's kind of like the main doctor in charge of all this, right?
Even though he's always a little bit behind on everything?
unidentified
I think because... A little bit, yeah.
tim pool
There's been like pushback, right?
Fauci is the doctor saying, we can't do this.
And then Trump is like with the economy.
So then the left has just been like, Trump is wrong.
Fauci is right.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Now Fauci's come out and he's like, we're facing irreparable damage if we stay locked down too long.
And I'm absolutely in favor of opening if it's done appropriately.
unidentified
Boom.
tim pool
We also have a study that came out showing that states that locked down actually did much, much worse.
adam crigler
Huh.
What a surprise.
tim pool
Unsurprising.
Well, I mean, I would say early on, that would be surprising.
You'd be like, wow, I didn't realize that.
But hindsight is 20-20, you know?
adam crigler
That's it.
tim pool
And then, you know, Joe Biden.
Because he's Joe Biden.
adam crigler
Did we have to talk about Joe Biden?
tim pool
Well, because he said, you know, black people weren't black if they voted for Trump.
adam crigler
That is the craziest thing I've ever heard.
tim pool
So Trump is now selling you ain't black shirts.
adam crigler
Hashtag you ain't black.
tim pool
Dude, this is the big difference between the two campaigns.
Trump doesn't care.
adam crigler
You know what I can't believe more than that though?
The amount of people that are coming out in defense of that statement.
Like, how are you defending it?
unidentified
What?
lydia smith
Yeah, I don't know how you defend that.
That's pretty amazing.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Look, man, I can't speak on behalf of anyone but myself.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So if there's a community of people that took issue with it, and a lot of people did, even lefty.
So obviously there were conservatives who were mad.
Then there were a lot of people in the black community who were mad.
But then I saw some progressive people in the black community who were mad.
And that was, I mean, not surprising to me at all.
Because they don't like Joe Biden.
adam crigler
They're like, vote blue no matter who!
lydia smith
Wait, what did you say?
tim pool
No, these people, these aren't the vote blue no matter who.
adam crigler
No, I know, I'm just making a joke.
tim pool
The progressives, and like, dude, this has been crazy.
Like, when I turn on Glenn Greenwald, progressive, seeing him go after, you know, defend Michael Flynn.
Like, wow.
He rags on the national security state, surveillance state.
He hates Trump.
But the truth is the truth.
So when you go to these establishment vote blue no matter who people, they're like, these are the worst of the worst.
But I think they're a dying breed.
adam crigler
Excuse me.
tim pool
Yeah, dying breed.
And we got some fun sci-fi stories.
Maybe we'll get to it if we do.
unidentified
Sci-fi stories?
tim pool
Well, creepy ones.
adam crigler
Oh, that's fine.
It's still sci-fi, right?
tim pool
The contact tracing app that got released in North Dakota is basically monetizing and selling your data and stuff.
lydia smith
Oh, like dystopia sci-fi.
tim pool
Yes.
unidentified
Not the fun.
adam crigler
I feel like we've been living in that for months now.
tim pool
We got a free trial to Brave New World, to Fahrenheit 451, to communism.
It's like, wow, we got a little sample of everything.
lydia smith
Didn't want that.
tim pool
Can't say life isn't boring.
So if you're just tuning in, make sure you smash that like button!
adam crigler
Oh, I didn't yet.
tim pool
Smash it.
Lightly tap it and just give your mouse a little... Just one time.
adam crigler
No, that's what you do to the share button.
tim pool
Lightly doot the share button.
adam crigler
Smash the like button, lightly tap the share button.
tim pool
I don't know if the share button does anything.
Just take the URL and plop it somewhere.
adam crigler
Sure.
tim pool
Also, if you'd like to super chat, so...
Here's basically what happens.
You get your superchats in.
It usually has to do with the first hour of the couple segments we do, and we do try to read them as we can, but basically, first come, first serve, just because we read the first superchats first, and then eventually we get to a point where the superchats come in too quick, so...
If you end up getting in late, then we sometimes have to skip through, and so I apologize to everybody if we missed your Super Chats.
adam crigler
We're just getting so much love from you guys.
unidentified
It is.
adam crigler
So much love.
tim pool
And you know, very few podcasts actually do dedicated segments to full-on Super Chat.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, a lot of them just be like, we'll pull select comments, and then people will Super Chat, and then a producer will pull like four questions, and they'll ignore like the 300.
lydia smith
You glad I don't do that?
tim pool
Yeah.
And without calling anybody out.
There's some podcasts that just disable it.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I like the way we do it.
But I think it's the point of it.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
We get to actually interact with people and that's amazing.
I love that.
tim pool
Well, then people often have good questions that lead to... We did a segment the other day about... Adam brought up the story when we lived in Miami and someone hopped a fence into our property and was snooping around our barn with a flashlight.
adam crigler
Oh yeah, someone asked us about if we believe in guns and having them and why.
And it's like, yes, of course we do.
Here's a actual story that we had.
tim pool
It's interesting too.
I mean, because we didn't even actually have guns.
We had a pellet air rifle, compression rifle.
It was a good one.
You know what I mean?
It was fun.
adam crigler
It was a Remington.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
adam crigler
Like a legitimate air rifle.
tim pool
I'll tell you what, man.
I had a friend come over once, and I had it safety on and everything, and just to keep it vague, this person thought it would be funny to crack it and then point it at me.
It was just a pellet gun, right?
And I flipped out.
I was like, dude, you are never allowed to touch anything.
You're never coming here again.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Like, dude, you don't understand.
And she was like 10 feet away from me, thinking it was hair.
adam crigler
Oh my goodness, 10 feet away?
tim pool
That is no joke.
Like she thought it was a BB, like an air pellet gun or something.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
And I'm like, dude, those kill.
unidentified
Yeah, those are like squirrel killers.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
adam crigler
Rabbit killers.
tim pool
That would have been messed up.
Respected.
Yeah, we didn't... No, she certainly didn't.
People are dumb, man.
And that's one of the biggest challenges.
adam crigler
They're out there.
tim pool
When you see a lot of people who are very much adamant for gun control, it's because they know they're the dumb ones who can't... I don't mean to say dumb as in... That's like... Ignorant is a better word.
Okay.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's a better word.
tim pool
When I was in Egypt... All you gun people are gonna love this.
I had to go into the state building for certified press credentials, because in Egypt they don't have free press.
And the soldiers standing in front of the building are holding their guns like this.
And so when I walked past to walk in, I'm like going like this and like limboing.
lydia smith
You don't want to be anywhere near the end of that gun.
tim pool
I don't want there to be a direct line from the barrel of that, you know, rifle to my head.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So I limboed.
They don't do that here.
adam crigler
Just dodging.
tim pool
Here it's down.
adam crigler
Yeah, down to the ground.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Trigger discipline, muzzle to the ground.
Not in these other places, man.
unidentified
That's crazy.
lydia smith
I don't like that.
tim pool
You gotta walk past them and it's like, no, thank you.
adam crigler
They're like, but we have to show off our guns.
Is that what it's about?
tim pool
They're just untrained.
They don't, they have bad training, bad training.
And so what do you think happens when you take some of these city folk that don't know anything about it and don't respect it?
adam crigler
They hold the gun like this?
tim pool
Dude, do you see?
adam crigler
With their finger on the trigger at all times too.
tim pool
There was a viral video on Reddit where some woman was in a range and then she like fires and then she just turns and then a bunch of dudes basically tackle her.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Seriously?
That's crazy.
You do not mess around with that.
her pull her arm up yeah and then they kick her out seriously yeah you don't
unidentified
yeah crazy turning around she was just like oh my god with live bullets in the
tim pool
yes yep right dude everyone feels like men and women running to her grabbing
unidentified
her putting her arm like oh yeah so doing Wow.
lydia smith
My dad taught us about guns and when we were learning about guns, he was like, I will give you a dollar if you ever see the end of this muzzle.
If you ever see the end, if you see the hole where the bullet comes out, you get a dollar from me.
And if I ever see it on you, you're never shooting again.
I was like, okay, that's fair.
And it never happened.
Like I never had to pay him a dollar and, uh, or he never had to pay me a dollar and I was not revoked from shooting.
adam crigler
What was the first gun you ever shot?
unidentified
Me?
lydia smith
Yeah.
Um, I don't remember what I shot.
My dad started us out small.
I couldn't even tell you what he owned, but my left eye is weaker than my right eye, so I learned to shoot wonky.
Like, I shot with my other hand.
It was strange, but it worked well.
And we had a little shooting range in our barn.
It was good times.
Yeah, so I kind of learned.
tim pool
So this is actually, people are going to like this, when I was covering the Ferguson riots, we actually went to a range because there was something, there was an interesting principle that me and these other journalists had.
It was, if we're going to report on gun use and you haven't ever used a gun or talked to an expert, you shouldn't be doing it.
adam crigler
Dope.
That sounds legit.
tim pool
So we went to the range and we got a basic like, you know, opening pointer and like explaining everything.
I got to fire a few rounds.
I forgot what it said.
I had good precision but bad accuracy.
I was able to hit the target in the junk consistently, but I was aiming for the head.
What he told me was that when I was pulling, I was pulling my hand forward, so it was going down.
But I was like, how can I even possibly consider reporting on what would it be like to be holding a weapon, have someone, you know, fighting with you or whatever, if I've never even experienced it, asked about it, talked to an expert.
But then I did an interview with somebody in Jersey.
He was a trainer, a police firearms expert and trains people.
And we got to go through a full course where they went from like 22 and I got to fire like five different handguns.
unidentified
Cool.
tim pool
I can't remember what the last one was, but it was huge.
It was heavy and it was Powerful.
adam crigler
Was it a Magnum?
tim pool
No, no, I can't remember what it was.
adam crigler
Desert Eagle?
tim pool
But like, the first one they had me use, it felt almost like a cap gun.
adam crigler
Like a .22?
tim pool
It was a .22, and it was like, it was ridiculously easy to shoot.
And that's what they explained, they were like, we're not gonna start you off on the bigger guns.
You get used to it, and it really did work out that way.
I was like, oh wow.
As I worked my way up, you know.
But I've only ever gone twice.
lydia smith
We gotta go.
Let's do that after we get out of lockdown.
adam crigler
Oh my gosh, I can't wait.
lydia smith
It's gonna be so fun.
adam crigler
Right before we all got locked down, I found a lot of different gun ranges around us.
There's many around us.
lydia smith
Oh yeah, totally.
adam crigler
But there's not that many that actually allow arrow shooting.
But I did find a couple.
tim pool
An arrow range.
adam crigler
An arrow range.
tim pool
Or a bow.
adam crigler
I think that's more fun.
Shooting bows, yeah.
tim pool
I want to go to a bow range, you know.
lydia smith
I want to do axe throwing, too.
adam crigler
Oh, yes!
We can actually set up axe throwing outside, probably.
lydia smith
I know, we should practice all the weapons we have.
adam crigler
What are we waiting for?
lydia smith
Yeah, absolutely.
Let's do it.
tim pool
Because we have to buy axes.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Oh, whatever.
adam crigler
And your point being... We can do it.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
adam crigler
Wait, you've got to kill them.
I do.
I know how to use that.
We can actually make our own.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
What you need to also get, you need to get a bear skin loincloth and leather straps to hold the axes.
lydia smith
Yes, of course.
tim pool
Because I'm telling you, I'm telling you, hold on.
When someone breaks in that front door, they might be expecting to see some dude with like a home defense weapon.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But when they see you running down the stairs in a bear cloth.
adam crigler
Wearing nothing but a loincloth.
tim pool
With two axes and you're like.
adam crigler
This is what you get.
They're gonna be like, oh, what an image.
lydia smith
That's not what they expected.
adam crigler
Yeah, and yet another image that we would like some fan art.
lydia smith
There you go.
adam crigler
I guess me in a loincloth, running at you with two axes, blood-crazed look on my face.
Hair crazy.
All right.
Hair crazy.
That should be fun.
lydia smith
Let's do it.
tim pool
This is what you get.
lydia smith
It's gonna be awesome.
tim pool
Trespasser.
Trespasser.
lydia smith
You poor fool.
adam crigler
Oh, wow.
tim pool
So now that we're adequately laughing at absurdities, should we...
adam crigler
Yeah, let's get into this story.
lydia smith
Oh gosh.
adam crigler
I mean, I'm stoked about it.
This is great news, I think.
lydia smith
Oh man, okay.
tim pool
I'm hoping, I'm hoping that, so now we see this, this is a story from the hill.
Fauci totally in favor of reopening country if done in an inappropriate way.
Not in an inappropriate way.
If it's done appropriately, he's saying we can reopen.
This is amazing news.
You know why?
adam crigler
Yes, it is.
tim pool
We've seen studies.
The lockdowns didn't work.
We've seen studies that they may have made things worse.
Infection rate isn't as bad.
I got one.
We're going to show it.
We're going to show a study from JP Morgan did an assessment of all these different states.
And they're writing fake news about hydroxychloroquine and stuff.
It's the weirdest thing.
But now that Fauci has come out, they've lost their, you know, golden calf or whatever.
That was the only defense they had was that Fauci was tepid.
adam crigler
Well, look, Fauci is saying we should remain locked down.
So, I mean, he's the leader, right?
lydia smith
He was the weathervane, yes.
tim pool
Yep.
Now he's totally in favor.
And he's actually talking about why it's bad.
Check this out.
The nation's leading infectious disease expert Anthony Fauci said Friday that he is totally in favor of reopening the country if it's done appropriately and cautiously.
In an interview with CNBC, Fauci said the notion the nation can't stay locked down, adding that irreparable damage and unintended consequences could ensue if lockdowns are prolonged, including risks to public health.
It is for that reason why the guidelines are being put forth so the states and the cities can start to re-enter and reopen, he said.
There it is.
Glorious, glorious statement.
Thank you, Dr. Fauci.
adam crigler
Thank you.
Finally.
tim pool
He says, I believe this.
Yes, Fauci says this.
I don't want people to think that any of us feel that staying locked down for a prolonged period of time is the way to go.
He said, adding that the nation had to do that during the virus outbreak's peak.
I'm going to challenge that notion.
With another article in a second.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
He said that in general he thinks the most people in the country are reopening in a prudent way.
Now is the time, depending upon where you are or what your situation is, to begin seriously looking at reopening the economy.
Reopening the country to try and get back to some degree of normal.
I'm totally in favor of that if it's done in a proper way and appropriate setting, Fauci said.
There you go.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Good.
All right, let's see if we get this.
There we go.
Great.
Now that he said it, I think we're on track.
You've got weird holdout states, you know, like New York, Michigan, New Jersey.
They want to extend everything.
adam crigler
Yeah, three more weeks.
tim pool
No, we can't do that.
adam crigler
Or two more weeks, maybe?
No, like two and a half weeks.
lydia smith
Till June 12th?
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
June 12th?
Yeah, come on.
lydia smith
Crazy length.
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
I think they're scared.
adam crigler
Didn't the state tell her she can't do that?
tim pool
I can't remember the specific details, but I think she was challenged by the legislature.
I don't remember exactly what happened.
But I know in Wisconsin, he lost and he gave up the governor there.
What's his name, Evers?
lydia smith
Yeah, I think so.
tim pool
So we got this study right here.
Many U.S.
states have seen lower infection rates after ending lockdowns that are now destroying millions of livelihoods worldwide, JP Morgan's study claims.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
There's actually an argument that the lockdown made things worse.
adam crigler
I believe it.
Look, you had- It definitely did.
Because it's not just fighting off the coronavirus.
Right.
In terms of- It stalled our economy out.
Now we're gonna have to, like, climb an uphill battle to get back into, like they say, get back to normal.
But it's like, how is that even possible?
Millions of people don't have jobs.
They don't have jobs to go back to once quarantine gets lifted.
That's the issue now.
There's no- There's, like, it's too late for those people.
tim pool
The small businesses that closed permanently.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
There's no normal for these people.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
Man, that's nuts.
adam crigler
So what are their options?
Go work at Walmart?
unidentified
Yup.
adam crigler
Great.
tim pool
That's what I was saying before, if you were somebody, say, owned your own shop, now what's your choice?
Become a mid-level manager at a Walmart version?
If you had a shoe shop, like an Urban Streetwear or something, they shut you down, Walmart's still selling all those clothes, now you're out of business.
You couldn't pay your rent, you get evicted, whatever happens, your employees have moved out of the city.
So you're like, I guess I'll go to Walmart and manage their shoe aisle.
adam crigler
Well, I mean, didn't you say Domino's was paying like six figures for managing?
tim pool
Taco Bell.
adam crigler
Taco Bell.
tim pool
That's crazy.
adam crigler
I'm sure the jobs are out there.
Yeah.
tim pool
Before the lockdown, the economy was so good.
Taco Bell was paying managers a hundred K a year.
adam crigler
That's so good.
tim pool
Wow.
adam crigler
That's really good money.
To manage a Taco Bell.
lydia smith
Seriously.
tim pool
But these are people without degrees.
I mean, in many circumstances.
You know, these are even some people who just, you know, got a job at Taco Bell out of high school, worked there for a couple years, and then got promoted, and now they're like, well, we want to hire managers, so we gotta be competitive.
Boom.
Economy was great.
Not so much now, but the big corporations have all done really, really well.
adam crigler
Really, really well.
Didn't they make, like, over 400 mil or something?
tim pool
The big box stores?
adam crigler
Maybe more.
Is it a billion or a million?
I don't remember what number I saw.
tim pool
Well, billionaires saw, like, a massive wealth increase.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
It's so obvious, dude.
adam crigler
It's obvious.
tim pool
It's so obvious.
You know what's funny?
adam crigler
I took advantage.
tim pool
There's, like, among the, like, libertarian conspiracy theorist kind of circles, there's this idea.
Actually, it's not fair to say that, but this is where I've heard it from.
Like, anarcho-communists.
I'm sorry.
No, that was wrong.
adam crigler
Sorry, what?
tim pool
Anarcho-capitalists!
Immediately my ANCAP friends are like, how dare you!
I'm gonna get hate mail from them.
No, but they talk about how the elites Predict and well, it depends on who you ask but some people
have told me that the elites orchestrate economic collapse
So what happens is the market will go really really well, okay, and then they'll you know, like sell really high
tank the economy on purpose and then buy everything back up at really low prices and
Then when the economy recovers they know they now have a larger percentage of everything resources
right so i wouldn't you know personally go so far say they
orchestrate it but insider trading is real it's a crime it exists people
adam crigler
know didn't we see those
like senators do that didn't they have like a meeting and then
the very next day sold off millions of stock Did that happen?
I don't know.
tim pool
Yeah, there's a couple people.
One of them, it sounds fishy.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But then, uh, the, uh, what's her name?
unidentified
Loffler?
tim pool
Is that her name?
lydia smith
Kelly Loffler.
tim pool
As from my understanding now, hers doesn't seem fishy.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Because hers is like a blind trust, and she had nothing to do with whether they bought or sold.
lydia smith
Yeah, she's not planning on stepping down.
So I don't think she has anything to hide.
tim pool
It's the other guy, what's his name, like Burr or whatever?
lydia smith
Yeah.
Oh, he was super fishy.
tim pool
Yeah, his seems weird.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
But dude, they do it.
Look, why is Nancy Pelosi worth millions of dollars?
adam crigler
Gosh, she scares me.
tim pool
There's regular Joey Adams being like, she's a scary woman.
adam crigler
She scares me, man.
tim pool
Why does she scare you?
adam crigler
Because she's got this look on her face that she doesn't care what you're saying, she's gonna continue saying what she believes, and she believes it 100%.
But isn't Trump that way?
Even if it's wrong.
tim pool
That describes Trump too, man.
adam crigler
I mean, I wouldn't want to cross Trump either, for that matter.
tim pool
You know what the difference is, though?
adam crigler
I don't know why I'm not afraid of Trump.
tim pool
This is one of the weirdest things about the current state of politics.
adam crigler
Something about Pelosi, man.
tim pool
Something about her?
adam crigler
Yeah, she'd poison my food, I think.
lydia smith
Well, so her daughter said, her daughter used this as a selling point for her mom.
She's like, she'd cut your head off and you wouldn't even know it.
And I was like, that's supposed to be good?
adam crigler
Right.
So she'd wait till I was sleeping.
Exactly.
Trump would come at me while I'm awake.
At least.
You know what I'm saying?
lydia smith
Nancy would have to wait.
tim pool
Trump would like walk up and be like, Adam, I've had enough.
And he'd throw you the sword.
Let's go.
It's a fair fight.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
And then you'd...
Yes, just like that.
We watched The Family Guy the other day where Peter fought Donald Trump.
That was kind of funny.
adam crigler
I haven't seen that one.
That's funny.
tim pool
No, but there's a weird thing about how Trump flaunts his wealth, he loves his wealth, and Republicans love his wealth, and conservatives, they're like, good for him, you know?
And the Democrats hide from it and apologize for it.
Yeah, I don't know.
adam crigler
For their wealth?
tim pool
For their, for their, like, it's the weirdest thing.
adam crigler
I'm sorry I'm privileged.
Is that what you mean?
That kind of thing?
tim pool
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
You know, if people find out they like a fancy dinner, they're like, oh no, like what do
I do?
And Trump specifically is like.
adam crigler
I'm having a fancy dinner.
tim pool
Boom.
Here's the example, here's the example.
Elizabeth Warren has, you know, she gets off a private jet, a tiny one, and she merely ducks behind somebody.
Wait, wait, wait.
Trump pulls the jumbo jet up behind her while he's speaking.
That's the perfect example.
adam crigler
He owns it.
It's amazing.
lydia smith
Yeah, you gotta own it.
adam crigler
People respect that.
People respect owning up to your... I don't want to say the word, but owning up to your ass.
You know what I'm saying?
tim pool
It's like Trump saying, yeah, I'm rich and I know it, and Warren saying, oh no, they found out.
adam crigler
Oh no, I know I'm rich now.
Or Bernie, just silently taking millionaires out of his conversation.
unidentified
Just a billionaire!
lydia smith
It's a billionaire.
tim pool
But so think about this right in terms of how they've advocated for or against lockdown.
You've got Trump saying we'd reopen.
Apparently now there's like a quote.
I need to fact check this one.
But you know Trump said something like we'll never do this again.
You know this can't happen.
And then you look at what the Democrats have proposed.
adam crigler
He's talking about locking down you mean?
tim pool
Right shutting down the economies.
Yeah yeah.
All right.
It's not it's not so much about it's hard to describe.
Like, when I say the Democrats, I'm typically referring to the establishment, vote blue no matter who kind of people, including the politicians, their media allies.
It's like that cluster of weird faction or whatever.
Their attitudes toward lockdown have been completely asynchronous with the science, the studies, the economy.
And it's just the weirdest — I can't imagine regular people trust them.
I'm sure weird resistance types who don't pay attention do.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But, you know, in line with what we were just saying about how, like, the Democrats will pretend and Trump will own it, I think that's one reason why people, they trust Trump, even though he says outrageous things fairly often.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
They don't trust the media.
And then the media starts playing this game where every day they end up proving Trump right.
The media is full of, you know, full of it.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then what happens is you end up with Trump and they just, people would rather believe the president.
It's crazy.
There was a study a couple weeks ago that the general approval rate for the president was higher than the press.
adam crigler
That doesn't surprise me.
tim pool
There was a CBS poll that said Trump was more trustworthy by like two points.
Here's the funny thing.
CNN immediately rushes out to do a poll on this.
And their poll comes out and says Trump is at 36 and CNN is at 55 or whatever.
Okay, guys.
Like, okay.
adam crigler
They just did the poll in their own office.
lydia smith
Yeah, they're like, quick, we need some numbers.
adam crigler
Quick, everyone who works here and it's paid by us.
Do this poll for us.
lydia smith
We need your feedback.
tim pool
We also saw this story.
What's the date on this one?
I will not support.
May 12th.
Fauci tells Congress there's no guarantee the vaccine is actually going to be effective.
adam crigler
Oh, wow.
tim pool
Right, right.
But this is a good example of what I'm talking about.
They're out of sync with what's actually going on.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And I bring this up because I wonder now if we're actually going to reopen even though Fauci said it.
Geez.
I'm all excited.
Fauci's like, we should reopen.
I'm like, yes, but guess what?
Fauci said a week ago, 10 days ago.
adam crigler
Yeah, over a week ago.
unidentified
Geez.
tim pool
Over 10 days ago.
There's no guarantee it's effective.
What does Los Angeles say?
What does New Jersey say?
adam crigler
Yeah, because it's a virus.
We've known that.
unidentified
No, no.
tim pool
They said we can't reopen until we have a vaccine.
adam crigler
It's ridiculous.
tim pool
Are you listening to Fauci?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
They're not.
That's the weirdest thing.
adam crigler
Oh, man.
That's sad, man.
Because, I mean, we know, we've talked about this, right?
You can't get a vaccine for viruses because they'll just mutate.
tim pool
No, you can vaccine viruses.
You can't cure viruses.
adam crigler
OK.
Oh, I see.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
So you give yourself the immunity by, you know, giving you little bits of the, you know, weakened virus or whatever your body destroys.
It makes the antibodies and Okay.
I think that's how it works, right?
Yeah, so... I'm not going to pretend to be a doctor.
lydia smith
Yeah, I'm not.
I am not, in fact, a fancy doctor or any kind of doctor.
adam crigler
Well, we treat you like our fancy doctor.
lydia smith
Yeah, but a vaccination is putting a little bit of a weakened strain of whatever it is into your body so that your cells develop an immune response to whatever it is.
unidentified
Right.
lydia smith
And this is why the flu vaccine fails half the time.
Yeah, that's what I was going to bring up.
Because it's developed in conjunction with Australia, we never even get their strain of the flu, which tends to backfire.
Because it's like, well, we were working with the best we had.
adam crigler
Because it's a different strain.
unidentified
Weird.
lydia smith
Exactly.
So we got different ones in the US.
tim pool
I'm annoyed with Fauci.
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
Absolutely.
lydia smith
Why?
tim pool
There have been a lot of conspiracy theorists, and there have been a lot of anger towards him, and I'm not saying the same thing.
There have been conspiracy people who think, you know, a bunch of stuff about him, and then there's angry people, people who are mad at him, you know, because of his wishy-washiness, and that's, that's what I think is on point.
He says what in March?
Don't wear a mask.
You know, you're actually, you're actually, you know, tricking yourself into thinking you're gonna be safe, blah blah blah, and then what happens a month later?
If you don't wear a mask, you get arrested.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So, Fauci has been wishy-washy on everything, man.
adam crigler
Some people get arrested.
Some people get handed masks by the cops.
And that's a whole other subject, too.
tim pool
Here's what I think.
It really does feel like Fauci is just doing whatever he thinks is safe.
That's why I'm annoyed.
adam crigler
Yeah, okay.
I can see that.
tim pool
Because when these studies came out saying the vaccines might not be effective, a week later he goes, well, they might not be effective.
It's like, did you just read the story that came out a week ago?
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Aren't you supposed to be the leading expert on this?
tim pool
He's supposed to be the one setting the opinions on this, but what it really does feel like is that he's waiting until the media says something that seems safe, and then he waits until the public has saturated what they said, and is like, oh, okay, yeah, it is safe.
Alright, I'll say it.
So now that you're seeing a bunch of studies pop up saying prolonged lockdown is making things worse.
We've got the study from JP Morgan.
There was another study saying that 66% of people who were getting infected were the ones staying home.
And it's obvious.
For one, we're learning about vitamin D. So the easiest way I explain to people is, listen.
If you go out, you're less likely to come in contact with the same surfaces as somebody locked in a house because in the house, everyone's in a crammed tight space.
adam crigler
Everyone's in the kitchen, open in the fridge, going to the bathroom, anything like that.
tim pool
So what ends up happening is the people who go out rarely get sick.
But if one of them does get sick and they go home, so if there's four people at home and one person working, the one person might get sick.
They come back home and now there's four at-home people sick.
So the people who are staying home are more likely to get sick because they're in close proximity.
And then the people who live by themselves, for instance.
So ultimately what the study said was more exposure to sunlight, less likely to come in contact with surfaces, even outside.
adam crigler
See, this is exactly what those doctors in California were talking about.
The video that kept getting deleted.
That's all they were talking about.
We need to be out there to expose ourselves to not just coronavirus, but all viruses that we hit up, bacteria that we hit up, because our immune system naturally is fighting it at all times.
When you're locked in, that's another thing into this study.
When you're locked in, your immune system just slowly gets worse and worse and worse because you're not constantly fighting new stuff and building up the natural antibodies to kill it.
tim pool
And with that being said, I just want to do a quick reminder to the YouTube person who's got their fingers shaking over the band button, like, just eager to... Dr. Fauci says it's time to reopen.
OK.
All right.
adam crigler
Fauci said it.
tim pool
I defer to the doctor who said that he is absolutely in favor of opening up.
So you can move your finger away from the band button.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Yeah.
Look at this article.
Yeah.
It's Dr. Fauci.
unidentified
This article is huge.
tim pool
Fauci says so.
adam crigler
Totally in favor.
lydia smith
Totally in favor.
Check it out.
adam crigler
But that other article, though, I think sparked... Bring up the other one.
tim pool
The one about the vaccine?
adam crigler
Yeah, this is way more important.
No guarantee the vaccine is actually going to be effective.
Did you hear that, California?
lydia smith
Yeah, don't stay locked down.
adam crigler
Locked down until there's a vaccine that Fauci is saying might not even be effective.
tim pool
Why are you saying California?
We're in Jersey and Governor Murphy just said that.
adam crigler
Yeah, he said the same thing.
unidentified
That's right.
adam crigler
Did you hear that, New Jersey?
unidentified
What else?
adam crigler
What other states we got?
Michigan, New York, I don't know.
All those blue states.
tim pool
So, let me tell you guys something.
This right now is just speculative.
We went down to the Atlas Gym.
adam crigler
You did say there's no guarantee.
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
You know, it's a little loose.
tim pool
Let me tell you how freaky things can be.
adam crigler
Oh, tell me this story.
I actually know this story, but tell them.
tim pool
Oh, there's a little bit more you don't know about.
Ooh!
adam crigler
Saving it for the show.
tim pool
We went down to Atlas Gym.
We're very, very, we live very, very close to here.
This is the gym that's made national headlines because the two owners refused to stay closed.
They put up a bunch of social distancing guidelines.
People were coming in.
They were like, I think that, were they doing temperature checks on people?
lydia smith
I don't know.
tim pool
I don't know if they were doing that.
lydia smith
Yeah, they were being very careful though.
tim pool
Very careful.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So the cops came, told them they were in violation, but then said, don't worry about it, like,
have a nice day.
Then came back and issued a citation.
Started issuing citations to people who were going in, and then arrested one guy, briefly,
because he didn't identify himself.
In the middle of the night, apparently something happened where these guys, the owners show
up and they see health notice, like notice of embargo from the health department.
And then they find that the bathrooms had been flooded from the toilets.
So I'm assuming it's sewage.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
It doesn't necessarily mean it's like raw, nasty.
It's just, you know, whatever.
Toilet water.
lydia smith
Gross.
tim pool
Well, it could be more than water.
And they said they found paper towels jammed in the pipes, but they don't have paper towels in their bathrooms.
Why would they?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, you know, it's- it's- I guess you could have those, like, those, like, brown napkin things.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Because they don't have them, right?
So when we went there, there's, uh, the building.
It's like, if this was an overhead view, here's the building, here's the entrance, and then there's this road that goes like this around the back, and there's a cemetery behind it.
So there's no way to get to there unless you hop the fence in the cemetery.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And this woman told us, this is just what I heard from a woman, so it couldn't- maybe it's fake news, I don't know.
She said that the other day, before the- the flooding happened, Okay.
a woman had claimed to have seen ducks in a drain or something
and then and then like no one pay attention or never in order okay and
then the cops shut down the road that went behind the building
and then the next day it was flooded and the drain behind the building had the
drain cap removed and apparently that's what i found paper towels
that could just be you know here say She could have been one woman who, you know, gave him a telephone.
So I'm not saying it's true.
I'm saying very, very much the opposite.
This is a story we were told from out front of the building, right?
adam crigler
You're talking about, like, animals.
Ducks.
unidentified
Yes.
adam crigler
Birds.
unidentified
Ducks.
adam crigler
Yeah.
unidentified
Birds.
adam crigler
She just saw some ducks.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
In a drain that needed to be saved.
adam crigler
Oh, in the drain.
Right.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
So then after that, the cops blocked the road off.
adam crigler
How convenient.
lydia smith
Well, hold on.
adam crigler
We must save these ducks.
Right.
And while you're there, shove some toilet paper in there.
tim pool
I have no confirmation the cops ever shut the road down.
I have no confirmation there was ever paper towels found.
It was reported on the news that the two guys said this happened.
Conspiracy.
I don't know.
For all I know, maybe the two guys went in and flooded the toilets and then came back in the morning and said, oh no, look, our toilet's been flooded.
The point is, this is what people think and what they're saying.
So, what I said was, all that matters is, you said the police hit the road down, right?
Okay.
And then paper towels were jammed in the drain.
adam crigler
And the drain cap is suddenly missing.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
So who knows what that means.
People will speculate for sure, and I understand the speculation will lean towards it was sabotage.
But there's there's something else we noticed when we were leaving there was a white nationalist sticker on a flag on one of the light poles Yep, it's like someone took I don't it's called but it's like the paper with like the glue and you like yeah a bill kind of thing kind of yeah And it said something about like you being a Western man and resisting which way Western man Yeah, which is a white nationalist thing right now?
But then there was a sticker that said something like you let in immigrants and like you see what happens or whatever or something like that.
adam crigler
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
Look, it's crazier.
Somebody handed one of the owners a megaphone to use.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And it had white nationalist stickers on it.
And so then people took photos and started sharing them online.
adam crigler
So they trapped them.
tim pool
Yep.
lydia smith
Well, that's a setup if I ever heard of one.
unidentified
Yep.
lydia smith
Holy moly.
tim pool
And apparently like some dude showed up screaming Nazis animal.
lydia smith
And she's like, why are you calling us that?
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
No answer.
tim pool
Think about how easy it is to totally discredit anybody.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Handing him a microphone.
adam crigler
Here, use this!
tim pool
And then the press takes photos and they're like, look at that sticker.
adam crigler
Wasn't there a Don't Tread on Me flag?
lydia smith
Yeah, there was a Gadsden flag.
tim pool
A big, huge flag on the front of the business.
But that's an American Revolution flag, so... That's a feeling.
Of course they try to claim the Gadsden flag as white nationalist, which is... Is it?
lydia smith
Not even close.
unidentified
No.
adam crigler
I thought it was more libertarian, isn't it?
tim pool
It's a flag of the American Revolution.
lydia smith
It's historical.
tim pool
Yeah, it's the snake, Don't Tread on Me.
And then you have the awesome meme ones, my favorite ones.
adam crigler
I love them, they're out there.
tim pool
So you've seen No Step on Snek?
adam crigler
Yeah.
And I've seen the base one too.
tim pool
Don't?
adam crigler
Yeah, don't.
tim pool
The squiggly line says don't.
adam crigler
My favorite is the one that someone sent of you.
Don't tread on Tim.
And it's got a little beanie on the snake.
It's great.
It's great.
I'll find it and post it later.
lydia smith
It's so good.
My favorite is the one that says, don't cough on me.
And the snake is wearing a little mask.
tim pool
That's the best one.
adam crigler
I like that.
tim pool
If only they could have seen in the future what we would do with their flags.
lydia smith
Their navy flag.
adam crigler
They had no idea.
tim pool
How many memes?
Let me ask you a question, man.
Please do.
It's really easy to say don't tread on me and be libertarian when the country is tiny, the population is in a few million, and everyone lives a mile from each other.
I understand there were still cities and towns, but it was a lot easier when it was just 13 colonies.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Well, even then, you know, it's really funny when I think back to the colonies, I'm like,
it's funny that they considered all of this territory the colony when like, it's one city
on the water with, you know, like a few thousand people.
adam crigler
Yeah, basically.
tim pool
But they're like the whole area.
But uh...
adam crigler
Yeah, that's a good point.
tim pool
Something's gonna happen, and I think it's gonna happen no matter what we want because of population growth.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Like, how do you... Look, I wanna wake up at six in the morning and go skate, right?
Yeah.
I can't, it's too noisy.
Neighbors will get mad.
So I can't do that.
The police will make an order saying, you disrupt too many people, therefore you can't do it.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So I can't say in that regard, don't tread on me, can I?
Like the government's coming and telling me I can't ride my board?
I'm not even doing anything to nobody.
That's not fair.
adam crigler
Don't tread on me, but have some general respect for your neighbors.
Is that basically what... Yeah, I guess I see what you're saying, though.
tim pool
So look at it this way, like... Within limits.
In our house right now, we can bang on the drums as loud as we want.
In New York, you can't do that.
Because everybody's crammed on top of each other.
adam crigler
Yeah, a bunch of shoeboxes stacked on each other.
tim pool
Now, that being said, New York is collapsing.
And everyone's fleeing the city, so maybe... Yeah, New Yorkers are going nuts.
adam crigler
I've seen some crazy videos of what's going on in New York.
People are straight up banging on the corner, dude.
tim pool
What do you mean?
It's like, oh, that's right, right?
lydia smith
Naked.
Like, wait, what do you mean?
adam crigler
Banging on the corner.
That's all I can say.
But that's happening.
unidentified
Like, what?
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
Banging the drum.
tim pool
No, no.
You've seen the photos.
adam crigler
The drum.
Quote, unquote, drum.
tim pool
You've seen the video of them, like, jumping on top of SUVs.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And everyone's dancing and yelling.
adam crigler
What is going on?
lydia smith
They're losing it.
tim pool
They're losing it.
So here's the question I was having, right?
We can see that there's a tendency to where, like, as humans get crammed closer and closer together, You know, can you reasonably demand certain rights when everyone's living on top of each other?
Like, obviously, base rights, yes.
But, I can play music here and be noisy.
Can't do it in New York.
adam crigler
Well, even just the, we'll go with the owning a gun.
Like, you can't have a gun in New York City.
tim pool
Is that because people live too close to each other?
unidentified
Or because... I mean... I don't know.
adam crigler
I know that there's people in New York.
Like, a guy... For example, I was riding the subway.
Sat down.
I was wearing some brand new sneakers.
I saw a guy look at me, walk over, walk past me, step right on my shoes.
And I was just like, hey man.
What was that about?
And he looked at me and said, he like glanced down, he had a razor blade in his hand.
He said, I'll cut you.
Say something again.
I was like, wow.
And I just stood up and like walked off.
But they're charged.
The people in New York, not everybody in New York, but there's people that have aggression
Like, I don't know where he was at.
I don't know what he was doing.
I didn't even know, like, what I did to provoke him.
I had brand new shoes on.
Maybe that pissed him off.
tim pool
Some people just want to watch the movie.
adam crigler
People in New York, yes, but imagine if he had a gun instead of a razor blade.
You know, he could have just been like, boom, and ran off the subway.
I mean, he could have cut my throat.
I don't know.
tim pool
Do you see the video of those dudes?
There's like an Asian woman at a bus stop, and these three kids walk up and they're all laughing, and the kid dropkicks her in the face.
It was actually a crane kick.
I wouldn't call it a dropkick, but it was a crane kick.
adam crigler
No, that's so messed up.
tim pool
Gotta call the maneuver accurately.
Or you see the, what is it called, the knockout game they do?
lydia smith
We talked about that, didn't we?
tim pool
Maybe.
lydia smith
Yeah, where they kick the feet out from under each other?
adam crigler
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, This is New York.
tim pool
Specifically New York.
adam crigler
True, but I mean, you could do that anywhere.
We're talking about rules in a city of people compounding each other, living all together.
People can knock someone out anywhere you're at.
tim pool
I'm talking about rules versus... Right, except if you had a very, very tiny colony, and the population density was like 10 people per square mile... So everyone knew each other.
Not only- and not- right, and so if some kid was like, I'm gonna go knock out Mr. Johnson, he wouldn't do it.
So now you're getting bigger and bigger cities, humans can't know each other that much, they're living on top of each other, but it's not only that, there weren't that many people to actually- look, if you had a murderer back then, it's like they go on the prowl and after one night find one person.
Whereas in New York, these people walk into a building and there's 500 people running around.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And they go nuts.
So it's like... This is interesting because I think Joe kind of mentioned this, Joe Rogan, when I was on the show about... I think he mentioned this.
Is it a natural tendency of civilizations that when they're so old, they've been around for so long, they just drift towards authoritarianism?
OK.
adam crigler
China, for example.
tim pool
China, for example, but also their population density.
Like, Wuhan is a town of, what, like 10 million?
lydia smith
Oh gosh, I don't know.
adam crigler
That's a lot of people.
tim pool
That's New York City!
And that's not even their big city.
lydia smith
We never even heard of that.
tim pool
Exactly.
We never even heard of Wuhan.
adam crigler
I didn't.
I can honestly say I never heard of Wuhan before this year.
tim pool
Could you imagine if someone was like, I've never heard of New York City, where's that?
You'd be like, are you kidding me?
unidentified
Come on!
tim pool
It's not even one of the, like what is Tokyo, like 30 million people?
adam crigler
Oh wow.
Is it really?
lydia smith
It's so big.
adam crigler
That's huge.
lydia smith
I had no idea.
adam crigler
Same.
tim pool
And we think like New York is this big massive city, and it is, but to us.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And so you look at how China operates, they welded people's doors shut.
adam crigler
That's nuts.
tim pool
Is that maybe because there's just too many people now?
And then it's also like, I think it's a product of democracy.
And this is one of the problems with democracy versus a republic, for instance.
If you have two people and they cross paths and they get into an argument, you try to, you know, mediate.
Hey, hey, whoa, whoa.
If you have two people and one person, then you have two witnesses against the one person.
And guess who wins the argument?
adam crigler
The two.
tim pool
Now you have a big city where you have millions of people, and you get one person who's sick, and you get millions of people saying, well, lock them up!
And so that's the tyranny of the majority.
So you end up with these massive societies with tens of millions of people crammed into tiny spaces, and they all react drastically and violently towards any threat to the system.
Whereas if you had a small town somewhere, like when we were driving to LA, we mentioned this the other day, there was a town where they did literally nothing.
No social distancing.
No masks.
And the lady just laughed.
We don't care.
We're all preppers.
We don't care.
lydia smith
Who was it that said this?
That they tend to get more authoritarian?
tim pool
Joe is asking that.
lydia smith
Okay, I have an idea.
So because I just looked this up, because I looked up Wuhan.
So there's a city in China called Chongqing, and I don't know if either of you guys have ever heard of it.
Probably not.
30.48 million people.
tim pool
Wow.
lydia smith
And that makes me think that you can only control that large of a population, what 1.39 billion, by being complete authoritarians.
There's no, there's like, how are you supposed to do that?
How do you give that many people freedom?
I don't even know if it would work.
So, that's just my two cents.
tim pool
One person wants to play the drums, and you go, bro, there's a thousand people complaining about the drums.
They voted you out.
You can't play the drums now.
lydia smith
Yep, and we're gonna come and fix it for you.
tim pool
That's the importance of a Bill of Rights.
Like, if there was an amendment, like, we hereby, the people, guarantee the right to play drums, then you'd be like, I don't care how many people get mad, Constitution says I can play drums.
adam crigler
All I can think about right now is this whole social justice thing.
It feels like the beginning because there's a few people that are screaming for social justice.
And then, you know, enough people say, I guess that's something we need to make laws about.
And then they make laws and ruin it for everybody and kind of like shut it down.
And then slowly and slowly we turn into this authoritarian world where you're not allowed to do anything.
And the government welds your door shut if there's a pandemic.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
You know, China.
tim pool
Definitely.
But one of the weirdest things that's happening with social justice stuff is they're not even arguing the laws anymore, they're just like, changing the definition of the word.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
For real.
adam crigler
To fit the law that's already in place.
tim pool
Exactly.
So if woman doesn't mean biological female, then the law doesn't mean biological female.
It's an end run around how the laws have been formed.
lydia smith
Really sneaky.
tim pool
Yup.
adam crigler
I mean, really creepy.
When you look at it that way, it's like all laws are null and void then, because we can just change the definition of whatever we want to make it not illegal.
tim pool
Second Amendment, bro.
adam crigler
Man.
tim pool
It's like, the language is, you've got, one thing the left always brings up about the Second Amendment is that it says, a well-regulated militia.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And it's like, do you know what any of those words mean?
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Because there's a bunch of arguments I've heard.
One of the arguments I've heard is that regulated didn't mean controlled by the government,
it meant armed.
adam crigler
Like regulars.
tim pool
I don't think this is true though.
But I'm just saying, to interpret the word in a different way.
To us, regulation is like when the government comes in and says, we got all these checked
boxes and now you're operating properly.
You've been, you know, you're under regulation.
You're not allowed to do this or we'll come in and fine you.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
But then you can look back and see and argue that back then regulated meant you were equipped with the best weapons and like, you know, the best military gear and stuff like that.
adam crigler
So you were up to date and trained.
Yeah.
tim pool
But I don't think that's true either, it's just something I've heard.
The point is, people will bring up what they really meant, and then the left will argue semantics.
So even though it's clear, as of right now, what the Second Amendment says, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, why would we even argue the language?
Actually, Family, I made a really funny joke about it.
It was a cutaway gag where they mention, you know, the Founding Fathers were clear or whatever.
And then it shows a cutaway.
And then they're like, are you sure the language is clear enough on the Second Amendment?
And it's like, yeah, yeah.
What can't you understand?
Everyone can have a pair of bare arms.
And then there's bare arms on the wall.
unidentified
It's like, you can keep... You can keep bare arms, yeah.
Yeah.
lydia smith
It's perfectly clear.
adam crigler
I have seen that, actually.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
adam crigler
It's funny.
tim pool
And so as language changes, the amendments, you know, will mean something different.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, eventually you'll end up with someone arguing, infringe, what does that really mean?
And then there'll be a court case and they'll say, infringe actually means, and they'll say, it doesn't mean the government can't make laws about it, it means there must be due process.
So it's all about the arguments, right?
The founding fathers didn't mean the government couldn't do it, they meant that it had to be due process.
adam crigler
Or just change the word of fringe or infringed completely to mean something else.
Yeah.
lydia smith
Tweak the language.
tim pool
Yep.
Infringed, like inflammable means it can be fringed upon.
lydia smith
Oh yeah.
Fringing.
That's a thing.
tim pool
Fringing.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
I love how there's like archaic words that don't make sense anymore.
Like gruntled.
A gruntled employee.
lydia smith
Disgruntled.
Gruntled.
tim pool
Gruntled.
lydia smith
Gruntled means satisfied and happy.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Combobulate.
adam crigler
Gruntled.
tim pool
Gruntled.
adam crigler
You know, for the record, I'm gruntled.
unidentified
I'm quite gruntled with the show and this podcast.
tim pool
I'm glad to hear.
lydia smith
I hope everyone else is too.
adam crigler
That is a good word I've never actually used or heard before.
Disgruntled, yes.
tim pool
Well, speaking of tyranny, now is a good opportunity to talk about a horrifying story, if it loads properly.
lydia smith
Oh, there we go.
adam crigler
Oh, this.
This is scary.
lydia smith
Oh man, yeah, you're not kidding.
tim pool
Government contact tracing app sends user data to Foursquare and Google.
Why?
lydia smith
Oh yeah, good question.
tim pool
So apparently, this is in North Dakota, there is a new contact tracing app they've been using, and it is sending your private data to private companies.
And there's even an argument, it's contact monetization, because the data can be sold and used.
lydia smith
Whoa.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Holy wow.
So this is from futurism.com, and it gives us kind of like a quick summary of a couple different articles, so I'll just read this to you, and then we can talk about, we can carry on our conversation about, yeah, do we even have rights at this point?
Public access.
They report.
There's a troubling flaw with the coronavirus contact tracing app used in North Dakota.
It violates its own privacy policy by quietly sending users information to companies like Foursquare.
Now I'll just, I'll stop real quick, give you guys some context for those that aren't familiar.
Contact tracing is this idea that, say, your phone.
When I walk up to Adam, my phone knows his phone, and so it records the contact.
And then governments can look at who talked to who to try and figure out where the virus may have spread from.
How convenient.
So now they want all these people to download this app so that they can look on a map and see who talked to who and every, like, that's insane.
Insane spying, right?
Insane.
So they tell us, it's for your safety.
You know, there's a virus, man.
If you get sick, we want to know how you got sick and who you came into contact with, right?
That makes sense.
And they go and sell your data to a private third-party company, and what are they going to do with it?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That seems like a sneaky way they were able to get access to our private information.
adam crigler
Agreed.
tim pool
And now we're seeing this.
Consumer privacy app company Jumbo studied the app, Care19, and found that it was transmitting information to third parties, including Foursquare and Google, according to the Washington Post.
Yeah, damn straight.
is unfortunate not only because it's a major privacy violation, but also because it threatens
to erode the public's trust in government attempts to contain COVID-19. And the public
has already lost trust for a lot of reasons. Proud Crowd, here's this contact monetization.
Proud Crowd, the company that developed the contact tracing app, confirmed that it sends
data, but says it's not for commercial purposes, according to WAPO. And a Foursquare spokesperson
told WAPO they don't use that data and it's promptly discarded.
But the fact remains that CARE19 users were told their data wouldn't be sent out at all.
adam crigler
Yeah, but they said they were selling it to them, though.
Selling it to third-party apps.
tim pool
It says selling?
adam crigler
No, no, no.
Oh, I thought they said in the first thing you read.
tim pool
No, it's sending it to.
adam crigler
Oh, sending it to.
lydia smith
Oh, okay.
Well, like monetization, though.
Is that not selling?
tim pool
I don't care what they said.
You know why?
unidentified
Because they're liars.
tim pool
Remember Cambridge Analytica?
Don't worry, your data will be discarded and then we'll sell it to a private company to harvest voter data to be used in political campaigns.
Think about what they can do with all this data.
They don't just know who you talk to, they know where you go.
Think about it this way.
If you're downtown in your city, and I come into contact with Adam.
Then, 30 minutes later, I come into contact with Lydia in the southwest suburbs.
They now basically know the most likely route I took, where I went.
adam crigler
The time it took for you to get there.
tim pool
They know if I was speeding in my car.
unidentified
True.
lydia smith
Oh yeah, they do.
tim pool
They're going to be like, that's interesting.
It should have taken you an hour to get there, but you got there in 45 minutes.
You must have been going pretty fast.
Nope, no break, you know?
They can also see if it took longer, they can be like, must've stopped for food.
Then, it's not even about who I know.
adam crigler
They would've been able to tell where you stopped.
tim pool
Exactly.
unidentified
Yup.
tim pool
Because I won't even know Bill Johnson, who's getting a cheeseburger at Carl's Jr.
But I pulled up to the drive-thru, and he was in front of me, and that's the- You touched something he touched.
The best part?
Whatever the range is for the cell phones.
And now they know exactly where I stopped.
Because everyone, and they're going to see clusters on the map, and here's the best part.
Now they're going to tell you, trust us.
Just Adam, trust me.
I'm not going to send your data to private companies to sell.
Lydia, you want to buy Adam's data?
lydia smith
Uh, sure.
tim pool
Yeah!
adam crigler
Sounds great.
I don't like this.
tim pool
Don't look at me!
It was an action.
adam crigler
Why do you want my information, Liddy?
lydia smith
I don't know, I'm really curious.
tim pool
She wants to know what you get to get you for your birthday.
lydia smith
That's true, I do.
adam crigler
She wants to know where I got my sweatshirt.
lydia smith
Yeah, that too.
Yeah, I figured that out on my own.
tim pool
So let's hear a little bit more they say.
Quote, sharing what is supposed to be an anonymous code along with an advertising identifier has serious privacy risks.
Why would there be an advertising identifier at all?
Yeah, why?
It's exactly what you'd expect, man.
Come on.
Listen, if the government came and said, we just want to know who you've been talking to.
It has nothing to do with anything.
Don't worry about it.
And you're like, okay, you're a moron.
lydia smith
Yeah, no.
adam crigler
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
Okay, sir.
Yeah.
tim pool
Lawyer, whatever you say.
adam crigler
Sure.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
If you will be advised by any lawyer worth their weight, do not talk to any law enforcement without a lawyer.
Period.
I'm not a lawyer.
That's not advice for me.
It's just what I was told.
I watched a YouTube video once.
That's what they said.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
Well, if you heard it on the Internet.
tim pool
But think about the data the government is asking for.
With you having, without having a warrant, without having even talks to legal, you know, representation or anything.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And then think about what they might say if there's a lockdown, and they go, according to the app, you were in the park.
Remember that dude in Hawaii who got arrested because he took selfies?
adam crigler
No, I didn't hear about that.
tim pool
Some dude went to Hawaii, and then he immediately went out and took selfies and was having a good time.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Police saw the pictures on social media, or people saw the pictures, reported him, cops came and arrested him.
And they said, it's a 14-day quarantine, as soon as you come, and because you took these pictures, we know where you were, you're under arrest.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
There was apparently another woman, same thing happened to her, I just saw this story earlier today, that she like posted selfies on the beach, and the beach was closed or something, so they went and found her.
So think about contact tracing.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's a scary world we live in.
Yeah, I don't like that.
No, I don't like this at all.
What do you mean it's coming?
It's here!
adam crigler
The park was closed. That's a scary world. We'll give you a ticket. Yeah, I don't like that. Yeah, I don't like this at
tim pool
all, bro It's coming. It's good. It's it's gonna be you know, I mean,
it's coming. It's here. They're doing it I mean widespread national everyone's gonna be happy and
like oh I got my contact tracing it now the government knows where I am great
Perfect, you know, I think about like think about living in the 1800s
And I'm like watching these old Westerns and stuff and I'm like what's to stop some dude from just killing literally
anybody and then getting away Yep.
adam crigler
My mind goes to Red Dead Redemption 2.
You're going down the road, you see someone, boom.
tim pool
No, you throw a rope around their neck and drag them.
adam crigler
Who would know?
No one would know, and no one does now.
And you just keep riding, and you're good.
tim pool
I mean, to be honest, a lot of people don't know this, this is kind of scary.
I believe the overwhelming majority of premeditated murder is never solved.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Never solved.
lydia smith
Yeah, that sounds right, unfortunately.
Really?
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Most murders that are solved are passion crimes.
lydia smith
Because it's obvious.
tim pool
It's the ones that aren't well planned from idiots.
That's scary, dude.
It's really scary.
It's like a small percentage.
I think it's actually decent enough, though.
Like, premeditated murder, it's like, you know, I think it's like 40% or something.
It's solved.
adam crigler
That's still not very high on the number.
tim pool
Oh, actually, no, no.
I think I'm wrong.
I think I'm wrong.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
I think it's way less.
I think it's way, way less.
Yeah, look it up.
lydia smith
I'm looking it up.
tim pool
Cause it's something I heard a really, really long time ago.
adam crigler
Yeah, wow.
tim pool
That like, I think it was passion murders actually have a less than, less than chance likelihood of being, you know, solved.
adam crigler
Wow.
lydia smith
There's a 40% chance he'll get away with murder something, something.
tim pool
Premeditated?
lydia smith
In America.
Yep.
The police assault rate is even worse for other crimes.
If you murder someone in America, there's nearly 40% chance he'll get away with it.
adam crigler
Okay.
So there's a 60% chance that they'll find him.
tim pool
Is that specifically premeditated or are they combining all different kinds of murder?
lydia smith
Oh, so that's from the FBI's latest date on crime.
adam crigler
Yeah, that makes more sense, what you're saying then.
tim pool
Premeditated?
adam crigler
Well, no, the passion murders, they solve.
So, of course, the total number of murders that they find would be higher.
tim pool
I'm curious if that actually tracked only premeditated.
lydia smith
I'm not sure.
tim pool
Because I remember being told this, I don't know if it's true, it's been a long, long time, that it takes only a little bit of obfuscation or misdirection to thwart an investigation.
And so it's, you know, that's scary.
I guess, actually, that's an argument for contact tracing.
Because then it's like, you turn up dead, and they're like... Yeah, I was gonna say, this is sounding like an argument for it.
adam crigler
Find out where he was!
lydia smith
Yeah, where was he?
unidentified
Who took him?
tim pool
Well, actually, no, I mean, that's why I brought it up.
I'm like, you think about the technology back then, and it was like, someone, you could be taking a leak behind the saloon, and someone would walk up and go, bang!
And they walk away, and that's it.
lydia smith
That's it, curtains for you.
tim pool
Wasn't me!
adam crigler
Yeah, it's like, you'd probably think that it's the same back then.
Passion murders are probably the ones they solved.
Well, who hated this person?
Well, Joe Hanson over here, he hated him, and he's like, washing the blood off his hands, like, Joe Hanson, we got you!
unidentified
Haha!
adam crigler
And that's pretty much it.
tim pool
I guess what's scary for back then is the likelihood of innocent people being locked up was substantially higher.
You know?
Like, even going back a few decades, we have innocent people in prison and then DNA evidence.
adam crigler
It's probably still happening.
tim pool
Oh, it definitely is.
That's why I oppose the death penalty, man.
You hear that story?
I'm gonna be very, very vague with the language here.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
There's a story of a guy who, he wrote this long message.
He confessed to murder because he saw a guy in his neighborhood who was, uh, did some bad things to kids.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And he looked him up, saw that, and he was like, I was, and he killed the guy.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
This is right now, right?
Yeah.
I know what you're talking about.
adam crigler
a ton of money.
Oh, I know.
This is right now, right?
Yeah.
tim pool
Right now.
I know what you're talking about.
Yeah, yeah.
So this guy, like people on Twitter are like, he's a hero, he's a hero and all this stuff.
They're raising a bunch of money for him.
And I'm like, for me, it's kind of like, man.
adam crigler
I mean, he murdered, still murdered somebody.
tim pool
I empathize.
Like this dude is as bad, like, wow.
adam crigler
The guy he did kill?
tim pool
The guy who got killed was convicted 13 years ago.
The challenge is innocent until proven guilty.
And so if this guy got convicted 13 years ago, then what you need to do is prove it.
But I bring this up because You know, if we're dealing with the use of technology to prove innocence and stuff, we have to recognize the fact that there are going to be people who are locked up who didn't do anything wrong.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then if you think, you know, we can kill people, then the argument I hear from people is often, I'm OK with killing one innocent person out of X if it means we get rid of bad people.
And I'm like, man, I could not imagine being that innocent person.
adam crigler
Yeah, all you have to do is be like sacrifice.
Would you be that innocent person then?
lydia smith
Do you want to be the sacrifice?
adam crigler
I don't think everyone could say yes though in that situation though.
tim pool
Do you want to be the sacrifice to make the system work?
adam crigler
I don't want any innocent people to be killed.
tim pool
No, I just mean like, I'm not saying, I'm not literally asking, but it's like,
you know, if it is better than 10 guilty persons escape than one innocent person suffer.
And I think Ben Franklin said it's better than 100 guilty persons escape than one innocent suffer.
And like, I completely agree with that.
lydia smith
Can't argue with that, yeah.
tim pool
It's a challenge though because people turn it around and say,
what if that one murderer who gets released murders another person and now an innocent
person has suffered? Yeah, that's a really important point to bring up.
adam crigler
It is a good point.
tim pool
Man, conundrums. And that brings me back to the contact tracing argument
because now you come back to the security versus freedom.
If this contact tracing app can be used in a bunch of different ways, it could stop murderers.
adam crigler
Well, I mean, it feels like they could do that without giving our data to private companies.
tim pool
Right, right.
That's the problem.
adam crigler
That's the line where I'm like, OK, whoa.
Like, what are you doing giving our information away?
Like, you want to use it?
You want to use it for this?
Now, obviously, they're already using it.
So.
tim pool
Well, I agree, but my line is giving the government access to know where I am at all times.
adam crigler
Well, I agree.
I don't want them to have that information anyway.
tim pool
But they do.
adam crigler
But they haven't.
It's like, alright.
tim pool
We've already given all of our contact data to Facebook.
So it's like, for me to sit here and be like, oh, harumph!
adam crigler
Harumph I say!
Facebook, they already know when I'm pooping.
You know?
Now I feel like every time I poop I get this urge to just tweet at Facebook.
Like, hey Facebook, Guess what I'm doing.
I'm pooping right now.
tim pool
You know what I want to do?
You know the Kilroy meme?
Kilroy was here.
lydia smith
Yeah, the world's oldest meme or whatever.
tim pool
I want to make that, but it's Mark Zuckerberg.
And I want to put the decal in the bathroom.
lydia smith
No, how dare you?
tim pool
So whenever you're in there, there's like a Zuckerberg face.
lydia smith
I don't like that.
tim pool
Peeking out over a wall.
adam crigler
Gross.
tim pool
Over a big Facebook logo.
lydia smith
I don't want it.
adam crigler
Or underneath in the toilet bowl.
tim pool
You know what would be funny?
No, no, no.
In just public restrooms.
In stalls.
adam crigler
Oh, oh, in stalls.
lydia smith
I thought you meant like here.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
I was like, no.
Or you can have like some sort of machine that when you sit down, as soon as it senses that someone's sitting down, it comes up from the other side.
Oh no, it's just an ad for something.
tim pool
Zuckerberg's face.
If you had a sticker, you could easily just be on the inside of a stall.
When people walk into stalls, they don't look at it.
So you walk in, they close it, they turn, then they sit down and look up, and there's Zuckerberg looking down.
adam crigler
Maybe with a magnifying glass.
tim pool
And a word bubble that says, I'm watching you poop.
Or, no, no, no, I'm sorry, I know you're pooping.
adam crigler
I know you're pooping now.
That's pretty good!
unidentified
Alright, we got another... No, no, no, no, no, no!
adam crigler
Talk to me later.
Oh, of course, she took the camera away.
Talk to me later.
tim pool
No Zuckerberg stickers.
lydia smith
I got a site.
tim pool
But I'll tell you what, it would be an excellent informational campaign to explain to people about what it means when you're giving up your privacy.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
But hold on, let me ask you then.
Is it really that big of a deal if Zuckerberg knows you're pooping?
adam crigler
I thought about that too, because we've talked about them knowing when I poop a lot, and I'm just like, you know what, Facebook?
Have at it.
lydia smith
Whatever.
adam crigler
Sell my pooping times to... So, let's talk freedom versus security.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
What if you're pooping, and then you're straining really hard, and like an embolism pops in your brain, and then you collapse.
adam crigler
And then Facebook... I'm picturing it.
tim pool
Facebook's tracking you, right?
And so Facebook's predictive model is like, okay, he should be in the bathroom for, you know, about a minute, and then he should get up and he should go to Taco Bell like normal, but then you don't go to Taco Bell.
adam crigler
Yes, one minute, that's all it takes.
tim pool
And they notice your phone isn't moving, and then it calculates the probability, and then it says, in all likelihood, Adam was injured, and then they call 911, and the ambulance shows up, and there you are, keeled over in your bathroom with like one eye bloodshot, and you're like...
And they save your life.
lydia smith
Yeah, hey, that actually happened.
So there was a guy.
adam crigler
Are you serious?
lydia smith
Yeah, so there was a guy who was riding a mountain bike and he like went over the handlebars.
adam crigler
Yeah.
lydia smith
He was wearing his Apple fitness watch or whatever.
Right.
And they were like, oh my gosh, this suddenly stopped and then it stopped moving completely.
And so they sent paramedics to his location because of course they had his location.
adam crigler
Wow.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's kind of cool though.
adam crigler
Kind of yeah, well, that's a perfect example of where it's a good thing that is security
I mean, I don't know how hurt he was Well the guy what about that movie 48 hours dude broke his
arm with like a saw his arm like a yeah You got pinned in you know he actually sawed his arm off
and what got out Movie but I know that's what it's about
It's a real story.
tim pool
His arm?
I thought there was a movie or like a story about a guy who had a tree fall on his leg and then he pulled out a pocket knife and then he just like... What a way to go!
unidentified
It was like, lose a leg or lose your life, buddy.
adam crigler
But back to what you were talking about though, the security versus infringement, or freedom and security, I guess.
tim pool
But I guess, theoretically, your freedom, when it comes to having your data tracked in certain ways, it's possible you're not going to give up any freedom, maybe a little bit, but gain a lot more security.
lydia smith
Maybe for older people?
tim pool
Right, exactly.
lydia smith
Yeah, because they detected an arrhythmia for another lady.
tim pool
Wow, really?
lydia smith
Yeah, she had atrial fibrillation and they were watching her heart like usual and they were like, holy cow, it's really irregular and it's really fast because it gets up into like 140 sometimes and it's really, really, I mean, you'll be sitting there doing absolutely nothing and your atria are just fibrillating.
adam crigler
So what, she had like a Fitbit on or something?
lydia smith
Yeah, she was wearing her, again, like her iWatch.
adam crigler
Oh, okay, okay.
lydia smith
So I was like, that could be useful for some people.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Mark Zuckerberg is our friend.
We should love Facebook.
adam crigler
Hold on, wait a minute.
Is that the right beanie?
What beanie you got on?
tim pool
There's a Facebook logo on the back.
While the camera was changed, someone took a little computer chip.
adam crigler
Tim, blink three times if it's you.
lydia smith
Tim Cook, yeah.
tim pool
There is an interesting problem with just general freedom versus security in a broader sense.
adam crigler
Wait, you just blinked three times.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
unidentified
Good.
tim pool
I'm blinking.
I'm blinking SOS.
Feels good.
Another way to look at it is ATMs at banks.
The monopolization of banks is a bad thing.
These big banks then become too big to fail.
Then they start panicking and it causes major economic collapse like in 2008.
But it is pretty convenient You know, nowadays how you can go anywhere and find an ATM because there's only a few banks.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
It's like, there's a convenience to having that one ubiquitous service, but a major detriment then to them being too powerful and then being unable to stop.
And then when they screw things up, they beg and the government has to bail them out.
So, it's like, maybe the convenience isn't really worth it?
I mean, competition is really important, and we're losing that, too.
True.
But anyway, back to the contact tracing stuff.
Convenience is a really easy way to steal freedom.
adam crigler
Yeah, but in that same sense, it's like, ATMs is convenient for us.
What do we get out of this contact tracing stuff?
Like, what has it really given us?
Unless you're old.
unidentified
Public health.
tim pool
Right.
unidentified
You're gonna call it public health.
tim pool
Let's entertain their actual argument if there was a serious outbreak.
I mean, there is.
I mean, a more serious one, like some kind of airborne Ebola or something.
Then it would be great, actually.
That's the scary thing, because, you know, it's what I was talking about with, like, population growth.
I mean, we've got real adversaries, right?
And the challenge is knowing where the line needs to be drawn, and when security needs to override certain things.
It's not as easy to say, you know, absolute in any direction.
Now I definitely think we want to veer, I always veer towards freedom, for sure.
Because power tends to corrupt, absolute power tends to corrupt, absolutely.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You give someone emergency powers, what do they do?
They go Whitmer on you.
They go Queen Karen.
adam crigler
Let's turn that into a thing.
lydia smith
Goin' Whitmer?
adam crigler
Goin' Whitmer.
tim pool
Goin' Whitmer.
lydia smith
Terrifying.
tim pool
She went after a 70-year-old barber!
adam crigler
I know!
tim pool
But look at Governor Murphy!
He's like, these two young men running a gym, I'll get you!
unidentified
It's like, I'm gonna bring the full force of the law down on you in your sewer system.
adam crigler
Conspiracy, conspiracy.
tim pool
But the governor directly threatened them saying it's like this is not a game like we will you know come after you it's like yeah life isn't a game they want to support their families that's what they're thinking and they're not the only gym they're not trying to play games Yeah.
adam crigler
Can't believe that.
tim pool
That's the main problem, is that you can't expect the convenience offered to you to be used properly.
As we've seen with this contact tracing app, they can whisper all the sweet nothings into your ears about how if you're in your living room, you think you gotta fart, but then you pop a vein in your brain and you collapse, we'll save you.
If you fall off your bike or whatever, we'll be there for you.
It all sounds good.
adam crigler
Yeah, sure.
Those few and far between stories of where it actually does make sense.
It's like, okay, yeah, what about how, how about, you know, exactly what every single person is doing and you're, you're giving it to private info, you know, private money off of it.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Making money off of it.
tim pool
Also think about how, how they could, uh, they could come after you for anything.
Like I said, like the guy who went to the beach.
adam crigler
Oh, you were speeding.
tim pool
Yup.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Oh, they're already watching that.
tim pool
You get a ticket in the mail.
lydia smith
Yeah, so OK, so this is something that I noticed when I use Google Maps is that they'll tell you what the speed limit is here and then right beside it is your speed.
Right.
adam crigler
Really?
It gives you your speed now.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Yeah.
And I was like, I was afraid of that before.
I was like, this is how they're going to get us.
I'll just send you the ticket in the mail.
adam crigler
Oh, wow.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You know what the big problem with this is?
Because I did an interview with this guy named Moxie Marlinspike, a famous data privacy technologist.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
And people often say, what's the big deal?
If I'm not doing anything wrong, I got nothing to worry about, right?
And his response was, no, because think about the legalization of marijuana across the country.
It's illegal, federally.
How would we know we want it legal unless someone broke the law?
If they always know what you're doing, then the only thing that can happen
is more laws will be created and laws will never be repealed.
adam crigler
Moving further and further towards authoritarianism.
lydia smith
Exactly.
tim pool
That's the danger of spying on people, because people need to be able to bend and break and change these laws.
Now we just saw, I think, in Virginia they just signed a bill decriminalizing marijuana.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
I'm sure there's a lot of people who don't like it.
There are a lot of states that have legalized it, but it's a relatively popular thing.
I mean, I'm convinced that if Trump came out right now and said something like, we're going to legalize marijuana across this country federally, we're going to tax it, it's going to be great.
Biggest landslide ever.
lydia smith
Young people would vote for that.
adam crigler
Trump's winning.
Trump, Biden, go home.
Go back to the old home that you came from.
tim pool
And Biden's opposed to pot.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Yeah.
People have gone nuts.
What is he doing?
Young people want regulated, legalized- So out of touch.
adam crigler
Well, he's taking his time.
He's getting one group at a time to not vote for him.
lydia smith
Yeah, I got one today.
Oh my gosh.
adam crigler
Yeah, today.
tim pool
Oh, we didn't even talk about that yet.
adam crigler
Let's talk about it now.
Let's move on.
tim pool
Joe Biden is back.
lydia smith
Oh, with a vengeance.
adam crigler
Oh my gosh, Joe Biden is on fire.
tim pool
Like literally, he's burning.
Yeah, he really is going down in flames.
adam crigler
I mean, this is a little much.
Come on.
lydia smith
You gotta capitalize on your enemy's mistakes, man.
adam crigler
I mean, he said it, though.
That's the crazy thing that blows me away.
Like, what?
tim pool
This is the difference. Pull this up. Joe Biden apologizes.
Donald Trump sells the shirt.
lydia smith
Huh.
unidentified
Who's the winner?
lydia smith
Who's the winner?
tim pool
Look, man, it's funny to me that all these conservatives came out and were like railing
on Biden.
Like, how dare you?
So let me give you guys the context first, because I'm sure most of you know, because
it was a nationwide trend.
adam crigler
Yeah, all day.
tim pool
I got I got offended, you know, a little bit from this.
I'm like, wow.
So Joe Biden's doing an interview with, what's the Breakfast Club?
lydia smith
Yeah, Charlemagne Tha God.
tim pool
Right.
And Biden basically says, I've got to go.
My wife's got to come on.
And Charlemagne's like, well, you know, when you come back to New York, I got more questions for you.
And then Biden basically said, if you haven't figured out, you know, if you're voting for me, you know, if you're voting for me or Trump, then you ain't black or whatever.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Something like that.
And Charlie, man, the guy was like, no, it's not about white or black.
It's about real questions.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And I was like, dude, yes, yes.
adam crigler
Thank you.
Exactly.
tim pool
Yeah.
I want stuff for my community.
adam crigler
So Joe Biden, man, he forced it to be a race issue.
tim pool
What an idiot.
adam crigler
He threw that out there.
tim pool
You know, what's crazy is...
When Joe Biden is incoherent, he's better off.
lydia smith
Yep.
adam crigler
It's a good point.
tim pool
Think about the things he said when he was actually making sense.
adam crigler
Think about that sentence alone, though.
That right there.
He's better off when he's incoherent.
This man is running for president.
And that's where we're at.
tim pool
Oh, dude, I love it.
It's just like, this is not real life, is it?
lydia smith
I'd rather hear about the thing.
tim pool
The thing.
adam crigler
Yes, the thing.
He should have gone with that.
tim pool
I know why he said that, though.
The thing?
That wasn't him, his brain breaking.
adam crigler
Right, right.
tim pool
He says, go.
He goes, we're created to undergo, you know, the thing.
I think.
adam crigler
He was trying to say God?
tim pool
He knew to say God, but he realized at the last minute, like, uh-oh.
lydia smith
Can't say that anymore.
tim pool
Not to Democrats.
adam crigler
Social justice.
tim pool
You can't say that to Democrats.
So, exactly, he was like, you know the thing.
And now he has the famous, go, you know the thing.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Dude, this is the perfect example of the difference between the two campaigns.
Trump hopped right on and said, do they have pictures of the shirts?
They don't.
adam crigler
They're pretty funny, though.
lydia smith
They're nice and simple.
tim pool
Do they have it?
They don't have it?
I'm surprised, yeah.
lydia smith
Okay, whatever.
tim pool
Yeah, they should.
lydia smith
Well, they're not trying to sell the shirts for the Trump campaign, I guess.
tim pool
The shirts, which cost $30, were revealed on the Trump campaign site shop just hours after Biden sparked criticism on Friday.
adam crigler
They wasted no time.
tim pool
I have the Trump straws.
Do you want to grab those real quick?
The Trump straws?
adam crigler
Sure.
tim pool
Do you see them?
adam crigler
No, I don't see them.
tim pool
So, uh, they're on the... You got them.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
So I got... Someone sent me these.
Because I'm like, I'm not going to buy straws from Trump.
You know what I mean?
lydia smith
I totally would have.
That's fantastic.
tim pool
But so somebody sent... Ended up sent... Some people... Someone's using these straws.
Who used them?
Look at this package.
Was it you?
adam crigler
Yes.
Who was it?
I saw you using a Trump straw.
tim pool
Did you use a Trump straw?
lydia smith
Oh, I think I did.
I was like, oh, these straws are perfect.
tim pool
Look at these.
lydia smith
They're Trump straws.
tim pool
Look at that.
You see that?
So they banned plastic straws and Trump's campaign.
These people are brilliant.
Let me see those.
They're absolutely brilliant.
Trump made, what did he make, like a hundred grand?
lydia smith
He did.
Oh, wow.
Didn't he also make Sharpies?
Remember Sharpie Gate?
tim pool
Yes.
adam crigler
Sharpie Gate?
lydia smith
Yes.
adam crigler
I must have missed this.
tim pool
So there was a hurricane and he has this diagram that the NOAA, what was it?
lydia smith
NOAA.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
What does that stand for?
The Northern Oceanic Atlantic or something.
I don't know.
It shows the path of the hurricane.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And there was a Sharpie line that drew a bigger bubble.
adam crigler
Oh yes, I remember that.
tim pool
And everybody lost their minds and they were arguing it was illegal for him to manipulate.
For like two weeks they were talking about this national oceanic and atmospheric... So Trump sells Sharpies on his website.
Oh my goodness.
And he made a ton of money.
And now we have Trump's trust.
So I mentioned something about like, it's a genius move.
The funny thing about the Straws argument is that all these jurisdictions are banning them.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And it doesn't do anything.
The U.S.
isn't contributing that plastic pollution to the gyres or the rest of the world.
It's other countries like China and India.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So then the U.S.
changes things.
We're already doing... Okay, fine.
Look, I don't care.
adam crigler
Well, it's about setting an example, maybe, too.
tim pool
I guess.
Paper straws suck.
lydia smith
These are reusable straws.
adam crigler
I never even liked straws.
lydia smith
Yeah, they're reusable.
adam crigler
I actually did back a project that is a little tiny pack.
I mean, I have it upstairs and go grab it, but it's a straw that unfolds.
It's like... Oh, that's cool.
Yeah, it's great.
It's a silicone straw.
Oh, cool.
It's got a little cleaning thing in it, too.
It's awesome.
lydia smith
Yeah, if we, yeah, I don't know.
adam crigler
So you just have it on your keychain.
lydia smith
That's so cool.
tim pool
There it is.
Pull it up.
adam crigler
Oh my god.
tim pool
I cannot believe this.
No, I can't believe it.
I can completely totally.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
Joe Biden.
Wow.
Wow.
That's amazing.
Such a tone deaf and stupid thing for Biden to say.
And you know, I feel bad because, you know, he was joking.
Yeah.
adam crigler
He wasn't joking, was he?
Oh, he apologized for being a wise guy.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's what he said.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's what his apology was.
Isn't that what he said?
I shouldn't have been a wise guy.
It's like, oh, so you thought it was funny to joke about that.
lydia smith
Hmm.
adam crigler
Listen, listen, who wants to wear the shirt anyway?
tim pool
Let's let's be honest.
I don't think Joe Biden was trying to be racist.
And I think it's really stupid when I agree.
adam crigler
I agree.
tim pool
And that's what I'm saying.
The bigger problem is that he's just tactless and he's so out of touch.
He didn't realize that this is not going to like, you know, it is.
He comes from a bygone era.
lydia smith
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
And he's trying to be hip and with it.
So it's like it's like watching the old man come out and like come on the lawn where the kids are skateboarding with it.
I can do the Lindy Hop!
adam crigler
That's what I was thinking.
unidentified
I'm like, watch, we're gonna see him playing Tony Hawk Pro Skater.
tim pool
He's gonna do a TikTok.
adam crigler
Oh no!
tim pool
Whatever the kids are doing, I don't know.
lydia smith
I'm sorry, how did that go?
adam crigler
Okay, good.
Now, someone go ahead and gif that.
tim pool
Remember we saw that little kid doing that?
lydia smith
Yeah, there was a chick on the street!
She set the phone in the mailbox and I was like, what is she doing?
And then she was like, dancing, and I was like, damn, she's making TikTok, that's amazing!
adam crigler
Oh, you saw someone doing this?
lydia smith
In the wild, we saw it, yeah.
tim pool
So, they're walking down the street, and they're doing this weird, like, walk like an Egyptian thing, and I'm like, and the first thing I thought to myself was, They're doing it.
I'm old.
adam crigler
Oh yeah.
You're old.
You are.
You're old, dude.
unidentified
34.
You're old now.
tim pool
I'm an old man.
adam crigler
Oh, I'm a man.
tim pool
And so I'm like, what is she doing?
And then I'm like, Lydia, this is weird.
lydia smith
I was like, she's looking at her phone.
adam crigler
Lydia, you're young and hip, you know.
tim pool
No, Lydia was like, she's doing a TikTok.
lydia smith
I was like, look, she's looking at her phone.
She's got it set there in the mailbox.
tim pool
No, no, that was after.
She was walking down the street going like... I didn't see that.
adam crigler
And I'm like, what is happening?
Sorry, it seemed like you needed music there.
tim pool
I didn't understand.
And then actually the other day, we were driving down the street, and down this road over here, I saw some young dudes, probably looked like they were teenagers, and they were doing something similar.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Like one guy was filming and they were doing this weird thing.
I'm like, is there a thing going on with TikTok right now where they're doing like the chicken dancer?
lydia smith
I'm old, man.
I keep trying to avoid TikTok.
You can't.
tim pool
Listen, everybody.
I'm 34 and I know not to try to pretend.
You know what I mean?
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
I'm not going to do it.
I'm not going to go.
lydia smith
I will always act my age.
tim pool
Walk up to some 15 year olds and be like, what up, kids?
I'm cool.
I used to be super.
No, sorry, dude.
I'm a man.
I'm going to go take care of the bills.
lydia smith
Those kids would totally think you're cool.
Look at you skateboarding.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
I'm like, yeah, but you still shred a skateboard.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
adam crigler
Coming to you soon, everyone.
tim pool
What I'm saying is I will absolutely skate and we can talk skateboarding, but I'm not going to pretend to understand or try to be cool on TikTok.
Yeah.
So Joe Biden thinks he's being funny with these young guys like, oh, I know how to.
It wasn't even about youth.
It was about him thinking he understood the black community and that he could speak in a way that would make them laugh.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And it didn't.
It just made progressives and conservative members of the black community angry.
adam crigler
Yeah.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
That's what was crazy to me.
adam crigler
Definitely.
tim pool
Because I thought we were going to immediately see a bunch of lefty, you know, lefty members of the black community being like, no.
Or I'm sorry, I mean like, oh, Joe Biden's fine.
It's fine.
It's fine.
Because we saw Simone Sanders.
adam crigler
I have seen that a few people, like on Twitter, it's been like a war all day long.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
Where he's losing and his side is losing.
Most people are pissed about this.
tim pool
Yeah, exactly.
click the trending hashtag, you know, Joe Biden is a racist.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And sure enough, most of the top posts were from black people.
And so I was looking at some of them, like, cause I'm not going to pretend like I can
speak for them or know their opinions.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
And I was like, I got my opinion.
If Joe Biden said something, something like that to me about my heritage and stuff, I'd
be like, excuse me, bro.
Like, are you gonna actually tell me what you plan to do as a politician?
Or are you gonna just deride me for, like, what am I supposed to do?
adam crigler
Yeah, especially when Charlemagne wasn't even talking about that.
He was like, no, I'm talking about real issues for my community.
Like, what are you talking about?
tim pool
Charlemagne defended him, too, I think.
lydia smith
He did, which was...
unidentified
No, it's fine.
tim pool
It's fine.
Look, I'm not going to pretend.
I'm not going to be offended on his behalf.
lydia smith
Mr. Charlamagne does not seem offended.
tim pool
I'm not going to pretend to be offended for somebody else.
That's ridiculous.
I just think it's an example of Joe Biden being completely inept.
And then Donald Trump selling these shirts shows their geniuses.
We got to talk about the Lincoln Project, though.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
Yes, we do.
tim pool
How do I pull that up?
lydia smith
out. Can you pull up the tweet that you tweeted out? What's the website? Oh here let me go to your...
adam crigler
quick. I'm gonna take this uh time to smash that like button everybody and go ahead and
share it if you think that we're worthy of sharing.
And even if you don't think we're worthy of sharing, share it anyway to tell people how unworthy we are.
lydia smith
Yeah, there you go.
adam crigler
Thank you.
lydia smith
I like that.
adam crigler
I appreciate that.
I appreciate you guys.
lydia smith
Did you find it, Tim?
tim pool
I'm trying to, but are they seriously blocking me?
adam crigler
What is the Lincoln Project anyway?
I don't know anything about it.
tim pool
This is like a conservative anti-Trump thing.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And it is one of the most, like, one of the best pro-Trump ads I have ever seen.
lydia smith
It is so amazing!
adam crigler
But it's anti-Trump.
lydia smith
Technically.
tim pool
Here it is, here it is.
adam crigler
But it's pro-Trump.
lydia smith
Alright, alright, we got this.
tim pool
Okay, check this out.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
This is just another example that Real Donald Trump is the worst manager America's ever seen.
Don, you got conned by your IT guy.
Okay, so, alright, I'm gonna turn that down.
This is an ad talking about Brad Parscale, who I think he's the campaign manager for Trump's campaign.
And Brad is a genius.
He's probably the one who did the t-shirts.
unidentified
He's probably like, get a t-shirt out there.
tim pool
This video is like Brad is getting rich, but don't tell Donald.
He's got two condos worth one million each.
He's his very own yacht.
unidentified
There's a bunch of beautiful women, chicks in bikinis, dancing on a boat.
tim pool
Look at this.
His very own yacht.
A gorgeous Ferrari.
I'm like, dude, I want to hang out with this guy.
lydia smith
Let me be Brad's friend.
tim pool
What is this?
Please.
And so then it's like, private planes, oh my.
unidentified
Oh my.
tim pool
And then what is it?
Then the Lincoln Project.
They're like, meet Brad Parscale, Trump's campaign manager.
adam crigler
It's weird, he kind of looks like my uncle.
I know it's random, but.
tim pool
I watched this.
lydia smith
He's cool.
tim pool
And I'm like.
adam crigler
My uncle is really cool.
There you go.
So I already like this guy a little more.
tim pool
So I'm watching this and they say, Trump can't win without him.
He's worth every, you know, every penny or whatever.
Beautiful men dancing, Ferraris.
And I'm like, this is like one of the most epic pro-Trump ads I've ever seen.
Every young guy in this country is going to be like, I want to work for Donald Trump.
And so their goal with this is to, their target market is Trump himself.
adam crigler
They want to upset Trump, you think?
tim pool
They want Trump to feel like they're making Brad look bigger than him.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
They're trying to make Trump feel inadequate, I guess.
But to me, that seems like they've been eating their own refuse, like the fake news about Trump and everything.
They keep seeing these things that they write to rile each other up, and then have this fake version of Trump in their heads, where they think Trump would actually fire a guy he made rich in the first place.
Now, hold on.
I saw that and I thought to myself, I mean, there's a possibility Trump could do that.
unidentified
True.
tim pool
But I don't believe it.
adam crigler
I don't either.
tim pool
Brad Parscale's been promoted, and if their argument is Trump made this guy rich, why would Trump be mad about that?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Why wouldn't Trump watch this and be like, yeah.
lydia smith
Heck yeah, come work for me.
adam crigler
Like, alright Brad, I'm proud of you.
Look what I could do.
Look what you did because of me.
He'd be like, yeah, I did that.
Trump probably loves it.
tim pool
Look at this.
Look what Cernovich said.
Here's the response.
If there is one lesson from 2016, it's that American voters will never vote for a rich guy who surrounds himself with beautiful women.
lydia smith
That is the takeaway here, yes.
adam crigler
Yeah.
Nice job, Lincoln Project.
tim pool
That's insane to me.
adam crigler
Did a good job.
tim pool
Okay, we definitely gotta get to Super Chats.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
All right.
Normally we go around nine, but we're just having too much fun.
adam crigler
Keep in mind, everybody, we have the jam space.
Show the jam cam.
tim pool
Jam cam.
adam crigler
Jam cam is set up.
We are going to be playing some music after the Super Chats, so just bear with us if you want to hear me and Tim jam out some music.
tim pool
Yeah, Adam's going to play a song.
We're still getting the space set up.
We just did some redesigning real quick.
adam crigler
We'll have an official jam spot.
tim pool
Yeah, it's gonna be great, so I got the set, and then we'll actually have, like, friends come and jam, but Adam will play a song, I'll play a song, and that's gonna be after we're, like, kind of wrapped up.
adam crigler
There we go.
tim pool
But, uh, so make sure you stick around.
And if you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe, share the podcast if you like it, and we are going to, uh... Blaze through some superchats.
Read some superchats for you guys.
If you haven't already, you can hop in, but I will say, it's very likely that we'll get to a point where we just can't read all of them.
lydia smith
All right, keep going.
tim pool
GrimSoul says, so Back to the Future is censored.
Adam, they censored the scene where Marty finds the almanac and opens it to find Biff's nudie mag.
adam crigler
It's trivial, but... Actually, I read about this.
tim pool
There's more.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
He says, trivial, but scary that they're censoring it.
Keep up the great work breaking through the media.
If you get banned from YouTube, you will have my support.
adam crigler
Well, thank you for that, for one.
But I did read about this.
I guess Netflix got the wrong version.
So different countries have different Netflix.
And I guess it was for a different country.
It wasn't for the American public, which would have been the original Back to the Future 2.
And I guess as of today, they've changed it to the original version.
So it should be back to normal.
They fixed it.
So Netflix got the wrong copy, essentially.
I haven't seen it.
I can't confirm it, but I was reading about this earlier.
tim pool
Right on.
Christian says, Trump deems churches essential.
You think this 1A stand is going to ultimately hurt the Dems?
I'm sure it will help a little bit, especially with the evangelical and religious communities.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
Connor, thanks for joining.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
I.B.
Rippenham says, Gavin Newsom has banned fart correspondence in California, but Trump defended our right to send as many fart chats as possible.
Thank God for Trump.
lydia smith
Thank goodness.
tim pool
Kyle Buchanan says, since professors were getting paid to send research back to China, do you think some of these governors could be in China's pockets as well?
I don't know if I would go that far, but I would say I wouldn't be surprised if we found out high-ranking people were somehow on the take.
Michael, thanks for the super chat.
Annoyed Moderate says, Rogan and Pac-Man were asking who gets to make the rules to censorship on big tech and how it is difficult to decide.
It's actually very simple.
It's called the First Amendment.
So frustrating to watch.
Yeah, the challenge is they are private businesses, and they've become monopolized to the point where they're essentially utilities.
And if our discourse is dominated by these platforms that have monopolized the space, then there's a real argument for us needing these protections.
But I admit, there are serious implications that are challenging.
It's actually the First Amendment that protects them from having to host our speech.
The argument is they're a private company, and they have a First Amendment right to freely speak, and you can't compel someone to say something.
SDFU says Fauci is the scientific equivalent of a cuckoo bird.
Peter Coyle says, your marketing campaign works on me, a YouTuber.
A YouTuber I like goes live at 7 also, but because I can watch the full video after I go here.
Cool.
Archerable says, ever heard of the town of Pecatonica, Illinois?
It's between Rockford and Freeport.
I grew up there.
Nice small town.
I haven't.
adam crigler
Cool.
I've been to Rockford.
tim pool
I think I've been to Rockford once.
People like skating there.
adam crigler
Right on.
tim pool
David says, hey Adam, what do you think about raising kids vegan?
adam crigler
I mean, it's all about giving them the nutrients they need.
So I have friends that were raised vegan that had never eaten meat or dairy their whole life.
And I thought they were crazy because I wasn't vegan at the time.
This is when I was in high school, years and years ago.
And they're healthy human beings.
They were healthy.
They were the same size as me.
They did sports just the same.
I know that there's people out there that don't know how to be vegan that claim, oh man, being vegan made me sick and they only ate bananas.
And that's all they ate was just bananas.
And it's like, what are you doing?
So if you do it right, if you do it correctly, there's nothing wrong with it.
tim pool
Did somebody superchat us for the UFO?
Is that what happened?
I see a lot of demands for the UFO.
adam crigler
Oh.
Oh, I don't know.
Let me see.
tim pool
Well, I'll leave that to you, Adam.
If you see it pop up.
But I'll read some more superchats.
adam crigler
OK.
tim pool
David says, it's complicated.
Mug.
I mean, we could definitely do that.
That'd be great.
Morning coffee.
Zachary says, sometime between May 9th and today, Facebook must have lifted the Voldemort restriction.
Perhaps this coincides with the Rogan Wars.
Look into it.
adam crigler
Interesting.
tim pool
I will try posting.
adam crigler
We're not going to risk it, though.
tim pool
Not on here.
unidentified
Nope.
tim pool
Uh, let's see.
Heavy Arm Sky says, I mean, I'm down.
Still waiting on the soy on soy Jesus on the soy Jesus riding a skateboard with a kitten and puppy shirt
Sure.
Make it soon make it a sewn emblem on a beanie and I'll buy that too. I mean, I'm down
I like that Cordy says I seem to miss every other stream and always get mad at myself for missing it
Too caught up in video games.
That's okay though.
Aaron says, so Timcast IRL will have exclusive access to Lydia and Emily's Only fans?
Definitely not.
lydia smith
Nope, never happened.
tim pool
But Emily doesn't have anything to do with this.
She's doing Scanner.
lydia smith
Six million dollars.
tim pool
I haven't even seen her in months because they've been doing field reporting.
But they're gonna own it for sure.
Wolvespain says, hey Tim, have y'all considered selling custom decks?
I would love to buy a Lydia themed board or a beanie board.
lydia smith
Hey, that's smart.
adam crigler
Are you going to drop it?
tim pool
What?
Whatever you're about to say.
The same conversations I'm having with the beanies, I might be able to get them to do boards.
adam crigler
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Interesting.
tim pool
I'm going to ask them, because they told me, is there anything you think?
And I'm like, that would streamline production for us very, very easy.
unidentified
That'd be so cool.
tim pool
It'd be a weird thing.
We'll figure it out.
Could you imagine if you go to one of our videos, and then below it, YouTube actually shows beanies, skateboards, and the shirts, and you can click it and just get it?
adam crigler
Yeah, that'd be cool.
tim pool
I think for a lot of people the boards would be like art pieces because they're awesome to hang up.
adam crigler
Yeah, true.
I mean, look at that shirt.
Can we get a cut to Lydia's shirt?
Look at this shirt!
Harumph I say!
That shirt is great.
tim pool
Do you want your very own Harumph I Say shirt?
lydia smith
Of course you do!
unidentified
Click the link in the description down below in the merch section.
adam crigler
It's there!
tim pool
Actually, I think we can set it up so that it actually appears below the stream next time.
unidentified
Oh, cool.
adam crigler
Oh, the shirt itself?
tim pool
Yeah, so you can actually see it.
lydia smith
Oh, perfect.
adam crigler
We've got a super chat for a UFO.
Just spin the UFO.
tim pool
All right, you do that.
We'll read.
Graphon Tyrell says, now we got really loud background noise, I said some time back that H3H3 vs. Keemstar showdown was a glorious shipwreck.
Now I regret saying that.
In fact, I'd rather horrified at the implications and what it means for YouTube as a whole.
I don't really know what's going on between them.
I know that Keemstar was trending nationwide in the U.S.
a couple days ago.
That was weird.
I was like, Keem, why is it trending?
I.B.
Rivetum says, Fart site is 2020.
You know it.
Ben Lowry, if what the economists are saying about NY and Californians being displaced, how long do you think it'll be before our electoral college swings one way?
unidentified
2024?
tim pool
Yeah, maybe.
Well, I don't know.
When's the next census?
It's every 10 years, right?
lydia smith
I'm not sure.
Let me look it up.
adam crigler
That's so weird.
I have no idea.
tim pool
So weird.
adam crigler
I do know that the 17-year cicadas are coming soon.
lydia smith
Oh, no.
unidentified
Really?
adam crigler
Yeah, we'll do a segment on it.
lydia smith
It's pretty cool.
Cicada apocalypse?
tim pool
Christian says censorship in Polish national radio due to anti-government song being top one on charts.
People from radio resigning.
Government saying charts were hacked.
unidentified
Wow.
adam crigler
Crazy.
tim pool
Andrew Levin says joke time.
A dwarf who is a mystic escaped from prison.
A call went out that there was a small medium at large.
lydia smith
I appreciate that.
tim pool
Also go on EFAP.
You massive.
I don't know what that is.
I like the chickens part a whole lot.
I would like to have some chickens.
We had some chickens in Miami.
It was awesome.
Wake up in the morning, walk out, grab a couple eggs, walk in, crack them up, eat them.
It was great.
adam crigler
They were pretty cool.
tim pool
Yeah, and then the neighbors' cats and dogs started killing them.
adam crigler
I think it was the dogs.
The stray dogs in the neighborhood.
tim pool
And we caught one of the dogs, because we didn't know what it was at first, and we put up a trap.
adam crigler
Oh, really?
I don't remember that.
tim pool
Actually, I don't know if you... I think you were there.
Maybe you left.
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
We didn't know what it was.
adam crigler
Yeah, I was gone.
I went to Sweden for a while.
tim pool
Something was going after the chickens.
So I was like, coyote, maybe, or something.
The next door neighbor's dog was sneaking in.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
And then I come outside, and in the cage, he was sitting there, like, busted.
And so he was snarling at me, and then I talked him down, and then opened him, and he ran off, never came back.
Yeah, he learned his lesson.
Stop messing with my chickens.
unidentified
Bad dog.
tim pool
Alright, where we at?
Joey Giggles says, so does the gym owners past in New Jersey matter to the current situation?
I try to get these people to talk without emotion and it's not working.
It's a smear.
They're targeting their past to smear them.
John Smith says, hey Tim, have you seen the Dankula vs Vosh debate?
Vosh is the most obnoxious sophist I've ever seen.
Also, any thoughts on the H3H3 Keemstar drama?
I have not seen the Dankula thing.
Or the H3H3 thing.
I haven't seen either.
Columbus says, beanie patrol into house.
You know it.
From Connor, US policy and culture bleeds into the rest of the West.
If you guys open up, hopefully it will inspire other world leaders.
Maybe that's why, you know, Fauci waited.
Yeah, that's a good point.
A Disney movie about government-manufactured hysteria.
Yep.
adam crigler
Never seen it.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Correct.
Technolady.
Technolidia.
That's me.
Technolidia.
Nope.
Now it's gonna be a panic, because, like, what do you do?
Fauci came out.
adam crigler
It's like, what are you gonna say?
lady, Techno Lydia.
tim pool
Eric asks, will the MSM accuse Fauci of Russian collusion?
Nope, now it's going to be a panic, because what do you do?
Fauci came out.
It's like, what are you going to say?
adam crigler
They don't have any more arguments.
tim pool
The Grizzly, well, here's a response.
The grizzly says the left won't listen to Fauci.
I think you're naive to believe so.
Given how the left has been largely ignoring anything that does not adhere to their beliefs, I don't think they're going to stop until they are forced.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
That's the weirdest thing.
You know, the craziest thing to me was when we went to the gym and there was this, you know, it's like middle-aged woman wearing a Trump hat and she was talking about all this stuff and I was like, she surprisingly knew a lot about what was going on.
lydia smith
Yeah, she really paid attention.
tim pool
But she did think some things that were clearly like... Ridiculous.
Yeah.
Bill Gates over the top stuff.
lydia smith
Yeah.
It's getting to be commonplace.
tim pool
This is what I've said about the pitfalls of the right and the pitfalls of the left.
The left won't read the news, so they don't know anything.
And the right reads too much, and they start falling into these pit traps where it's like fake news.
Let's see.
Mavros says, got my booster box of Magic in the Mail.
Really happy about white, white blue bird support and Acoria.
adam crigler
Yes.
tim pool
Got a full art in our set.
Nice!
adam crigler
Ooh, very nice.
tim pool
We just cracked open some box, some boxes of Acoria.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's fun.
tim pool
And I'm excited for the red blue and the red blue white.
adam crigler
I got a space Godzilla.
tim pool
Space Godzilla.
lydia smith
Space Godzilla.
tim pool
Nope.
Not doing it.
I can't reach.
I value my life.
I can't reach it.
unidentified
What?
No, that is nowhere near it at five zero value my life. I can't reach it
tim pool
Yeah, no super Bam Bam says hey Tim found out that a couple of my co-workers filed for unemployment while still working
for the company They are already receiving money from the government WTF is
this world?
adam crigler
I thought that's not possible because don't they have to like coordinate with the business that they were working?
tim pool
Maybe they're overloaded It's okay. It's chaos, but uh
The AP reported that like hundreds of millions went out in fraudulent claims Wow
No surprise Bandit says, finally on vacation and can watch the show live.
Here's some money.
Appreciate it, sir.
adam crigler
Welcome.
tim pool
Rabid Kitten says, you must check out Ping Trip's new video with Tim and Joe Rogan.
It's hilarious, masterfully edited.
Is that the one where my videos get millions of views?
unidentified
I retweeted it just before the show.
adam crigler
We were dying laughing.
It's so funny.
tim pool
The stream is done.
unidentified
Rabid Kitten said, oh, we just read that one.
tim pool
Clink Clank says, Tim, sell us some food and when YouTube tries to ban you, claim that y'all are an essential business and cannot be shut down.
adam crigler
I like this.
This is good.
tim pool
Graf Ontario says, petulant child accuses Trump of being a petulant child, threatens Ford while still not letting go of the barber.
Good luck enforcing the shutdown of churches now, Karen.
Karen!
So we were having an earlier debate over what a group of Karens is called.
adam crigler
Oh yeah.
tim pool
I like, someone called them a privilege of Karens.
adam crigler
I love it.
lydia smith
That's good.
tim pool
And so I'm like, a group of Karens is called a privilege.
I love that.
A privilege.
But I guess there was like a complaint, you said?
lydia smith
Yeah, a complaint of Karens.
I called it the view, initially.
tim pool
The view.
lydia smith
Just a bunch of Karens sitting around in a circle.
adam crigler
That's pretty good.
tim pool
A complaint.
adam crigler
And now there's the real view.
Did you hear about that?
unidentified
What is that?
adam crigler
It's the right view.
lydia smith
Oh, the right wing view.
adam crigler
Oh, the right side.
Yeah, they came up and they're a bunch of like, MAGA women that are like, we gotta set these, the view is supposed to represent all women and they totally don't.
So we're here to set them straight.
It's pretty funny.
tim pool
Didn't Jon Stewart apologize?
Cause like, I could be wrong about this.
He attacked Tucker Carlson over Crossfire.
adam crigler
What's Crossfire?
unidentified
Was that his show?
tim pool
It was a show where they had a liberal and a conservative debate.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
And then apparently Jon Stewart said it was like WWE American Gladiators or something and attacked it.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And then, I could be wrong about this, but like, I could have sworn I heard a story where he apologized for it and said he was wrong, actually, because now you only have ridiculous partisan media where no one talks to each other.
How amazing would it be if you actually had, oh wait, no, I'm sorry, I'm walking this back.
There is a show called Rising on Hill TV with Crystal Ball and Sagar and Jetty, and he's a conservative and she's a progressive, and they're honest and fair, and it's an amazing show.
adam crigler
Sounds really good.
tim pool
That's why it's doing so well and everyone loves it.
adam crigler
Right on.
tim pool
Because if you're a progressive, the craziest thing was to hear the socialists praising Sagar and Jetty, who's conservative, because they're like, he's honest about the populist issues and what the left wants and everything, he just disagrees.
That's respectable.
adam crigler
Yep, I dig that.
tim pool
But then you turn on The View, and you get weird nonsense!
adam crigler
I gotta be honest, I've never seen The View.
Thank god, I haven't either.
And I won't see The View, ever.
tim pool
Let's read some more superchats.
Anto says, Seattle is being forced to wear face masks.
A lot of places are.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Shane, thanks for the super chat.
Sean says, have you seen the EFAP podcast?
I have not.
Flood says, Trump, I say.
You know it.
Thanks for the super chat.
adam crigler
It's actually Churrump.
unidentified
Churrump?
Yes.
Churrump.
tim pool
Quiet guitarist fan.
Last week, Lydia said that she was a little to the right.
How so?
Also, book recommendations for you during this time are anything Brandon Sanderson.
Really dope author.
Lydia is queen of stoicism.
Snyder Cut 2021.
BVS Ultimate Edition.
adam crigler
I've read all his stuff.
lydia smith
Oh really?
adam crigler
I've read everything he's written.
I'm waiting for... he's writing a series right now.
It's really really good.
Just waiting for those to come out.
tim pool
And what about Lydia?
You're right.
lydia smith
That's true.
I'm probably the furthest right of anybody on this podcast because I am pro-life.
adam crigler
Whoa whoa whoa.
Probably?
lydia smith
Definitely.
adam crigler
Yeah.
lydia smith
Definitely.
I'm pro-life.
tim pool
That's cultural right wing.
lydia smith
Yeah so I'm also like Economically right.
Economically conservative.
I love Rand Paul.
I liked Ron Paul.
I like Thomas Massey and Dan Crenshaw and stuff.
tim pool
Rand Paul just gets my, you know, my figurative vote because he's principled.
It's like, to see somebody, it's like, I may disagree with some of the things he brings up, but man, you can tell the guy's being honest about why he believes it and what he's fighting for.
adam crigler
Honesty in politics?
tim pool
Seriously.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, it's really so rare.
It was funny, I remember the Rand Paul stuff, and I remember, like, everyone being like, Rand Paul's the best, and I, like, watched a segment from him where he was very pro-life and very religious, and I'm like, I do not agree with any of this.
But I was like, I actually agree, like, the libertarian stance, the government shouldn't do these things.
I'm like, what can I say, man?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
The dude's being honest.
We can disagree.
We have a conversation about it.
I don't think I'm the smartest person in the world.
I think it's the people who demand they be the smartest people in the world.
It's the weird, it's like, I think that's it.
I think that's a lot of it.
People who think they're smarter than everyone else.
lydia smith
People who think they can decide what should be said.
tim pool
It's that saying, you know, stupid people are so sure of themselves, but smart people are so full of doubt.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then there's the other thing.
The only thing I know is I know nothing.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
It's like when you actually explore the world and research and read, you realize how little you truly know.
lydia smith
I don't know anything.
tim pool
And it makes you more reserved where you're like, you know, I could be wrong.
lydia smith
It's humbling.
adam crigler
Yeah, true.
tim pool
JP says, any possible way you can list the sources of the stories in the description as you talk about them so we can read along?
There was an issue about that, we talked about this before, that YouTube restricts content if it links off of the platform.
They've argued it's not true.
I think YouTube specifically said they won't do that, but I don't know if I believe them.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Because Facebook has as well.
The idea is, anything that promotes leaving their sites... They don't like.
Yeah, and so there have been people who have done videos where they're like, hey, I'm gonna be doing a live stream later over at Twitch, check me out, and then YouTube strikes them down.
So what I do is I have the URL visible, but not clickable, so you can still see it.
It's like a compromise, I guess.
Chris Egleton says, Hey, you used my t-shirt idea.
Looks great.
It does look great.
Sebastian Garcia says, Shut up and take my money.
We already did.
Real Dan says, Happy World Goth Day, y'all.
Play some IMX during the jam session.
I mean, I actually can play Spit It Out by IMX.
I don't think we can play covers.
We'll have to look into it.
I think you actually can.
adam crigler
Yeah.
Actually, someone was, uh, this has been a debate for almost a month now.
Um, and someone actually hit me up today saying there's all these people that do live streams playing covers on YouTube.
So it's happening.
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
You know, I don't know if they're, you know, have, has are as popular as what we've now become.
So like, I don't want to be, we just got our blue check Mark.
I don't know if it's going to be gray check Mark.
Oh, is it, is it gray?
tim pool
Gray check Mark.
I just haven't checked, but I'm pretty sure we can.
adam crigler
We should check, because I wouldn't mind playing some covers.
I've got a few covers.
I've got to play Country Roads for everybody.
Everybody wants to hear me play it.
I learned the song.
lydia smith
I can play it.
tim pool
One of my favorite covers to play is Spitted Out by I.M.X.
He's got really dirty song names.
lydia smith
Yeah, I was going to say.
tim pool
Columbus says, beating patrol in the house.
You know it.
adam crigler
You.
tim pool
Zach Shad says, Tim, you saved my life about seven months ago.
Sorry I can't send more.
I'll PM Adam my phone number if you want to know the whole story.
Sure.
adam crigler
Or just send me the story.
tim pool
Yeah.
Well, yeah, if it's a long story.
adam crigler
This is my handle.
You can hit me up on Twitter or Instagram.
tim pool
At Adam Krigler.
adam crigler
Or YouTube.
But Twitter's definitely the easiest place to get at me.
tim pool
At Adam Krigler.
C-R-I-G-L-E-R.
Because some people might just be listening in the background.
adam crigler
Right, right, right.
Thanks.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
Nick says, what are your thoughts on the latest surveillance acts that passed through the Senate allowing the FBI to access anyone's browser history without a warrant?
Is there a way to reclaim our 4A rights?
So, my understanding is that bill was already passed, and the Democrats wanted to remove, revoke that right, and it was mostly Democrats voting to remove it, with some Republicans agreeing, and then mostly Republicans saying, keep the power.
Then there was another, a FISA expansion bill, Where it was a bipartisan effort to support the violation of our Fourth Amendment rights.
I love it.
David says, move to Syracuse, NY.
Ninja'd Amazon from NYC.
Drone capital of the world.
Skate park by lake and vegan friendly.
Joints and me Dave show you the town.
Oh, okay.
The Grizzly says, been shooting since I was eight.
Jesus, what makes these idiots think they can make laws on guns?
It's the weirdest thing.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
John Smith says, no wonder Egypt can't take Israel.
That's in reference to the poor muzzle control.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Yeah, and trigger discipline.
unidentified
I don't know.
adam crigler
I mean, there's 14 of them.
Honestly, probably the last one.
Because I remember reading... I mean, I've read these books.
I got the first book when I was 21.
So 15 years ago, I started reading this book series.
I mean, it's been a long time.
And the end, I knew Robert Jordan wrote himself.
So Brandon Sanderson was given the end.
He actually spent the last year of Robert Jordan's life working with Robert Jordan to help him, you know, get ready to write the rest of the story.
But Robert Jordan wrote the end by himself.
So he already had it written.
So when I read the last book, I could tell the nuances in Robert Jordan's writing versus Brandon Sanderson's writing.
And it was really exciting to read Robert Jordan's words again.
And something about the end, it just, it was such an amazing series.
And you know, it was incredible.
So the end scene, everything about that last book was awesome.
And yeah, it makes me want to reread the series just thinking about it.
unidentified
The next part.
tim pool
Lady of Whiterun, what would be your preferred superpower?
adam crigler
Ooh.
lydia smith
Superpower?
adam crigler
Good one.
lydia smith
I think I would like to be able to read people's minds.
adam crigler
Ooh, interesting.
Scary.
lydia smith
I would understand people better.
adam crigler
As we're talking about surveillance.
lydia smith
I would only use it for good.
tim pool
I would like surveillance.
adam crigler
You wouldn't be allowed to work for the government.
tim pool
As they all say.
lydia smith
Yeah, I know.
tim pool
This one's real easy.
Tim, why so fixated on Eastern Time?
It's because more than half of the population of the U.S.
lives on the East Coast, or on Eastern Time.
And so in terms of effective business operations, You operate on Eastern Time.
This is true for even YouTubers in Los Angeles.
Some of them wake up at like 4 a.m.
so they can wake up in sync with Eastern because that's the market.
adam crigler
That's what I assume.
Someone asked me on Twitter and I was like, I think it's just because he's in tune with the news.
Like he wakes up and he's already tackling things that are happening.
tim pool
You also have all these journalists writing stories that are on East Coast Time.
adam crigler
You're with it as it's breaking.
tim pool
So I'd have to wake up at 4 a.m.
if I was in L.A.
lydia smith
We did that.
It was horrible.
adam crigler
Oh yeah, you guys were in LA for a couple days.
tim pool
Caboose says, Hey Tim, recite the four rules of firearm safety.
I don't know them.
Do you?
Does anybody?
adam crigler
I don't.
lydia smith
I do not.
tim pool
Someone can super chat.
lydia smith
I may have forgotten them.
tim pool
Louis Vasquez says, Listen to your talks during workout every day.
Getting fit with Tim.
Thank you.
Awesome.
adam crigler
Nice.
tim pool
Steven Suarez says, Is Lydia also a vegan or does she appreciate a good steak?
lydia smith
I eat a lot of steak.
I lost a bunch of weight and I did it by being low carb.
And that involves a lot of meat and a lot of cheese.
So I was never vegan.
tim pool
Toby, thanks for the super chat.
Peter George says, Navy boot camp.
Pistol qualls.
I was astonished to see bullet holes and marks on the floor, walls, ceiling.
Some people should not handle guns.
Yeah?
The One says, it seems the Democrats are intentionally destroying their chances this year to put blame on far-left politics, so come next election season, they can silence them and return to a more moderate stand.
Maybe.
I think they're gonna get wiped out, though, and the progressives will take over.
Patrick says, Philly Democrats have been caught cheating in elections.
That's it.
I've had it with these mother-loving snakes on this mother-loving plane.
Trump 2020.
I did a video about it for my main channel.
They got caught cheating.
And also in North Jersey, people's mail-in ballots disappeared.
And then apparently voter rolls claimed that they voted and they were like, we didn't get to vote.
Our ballots never came.
And one of their relatives was in Florida for several weeks.
So who voted in their name?
Yup.
And Governor Murphy refused to answer a question about it.
Two days later said, we're doing vote by mail.
lydia smith
Interesting.
tim pool
That's insane.
unidentified
Absolutely insane.
lydia smith
I don't like Jersey.
adam crigler
It's messed up.
tim pool
Evil Morty says, Washington State not allowed to worship, Governor says.
That's right.
James Wilson says, just because I'm a pedantic, your wide-shot Twitter names are two different levels of brightness and I can't stop seeing it.
Is that purposeful?
lydia smith
Oh.
It's the shine.
adam crigler
It's the studio lights.
tim pool
DudeGuyMcPant says, avid shooter, weapon designer, and licensed arms dealer.
When this is all over, I would love to talk with you all about firearms.
adam crigler
Cool.
tim pool
Follow at AdamKrigler on Twitter.
adam crigler
Hit me up.
tim pool
Because he is the main point of contact for all this stuff.
adam crigler
You can probably hit up Sour Patch Lids too.
lydia smith
Oh yeah, you can always hit me up.
tim pool
Sour Patch Lids, L-Y-D-S.
adam crigler
Yeah, flash over there.
lydia smith
Wait, here.
It is right here?
adam crigler
Boom.
tim pool
We are going to have to start speeding up because we are not even halfway through.
adam crigler
Oh wow.
tim pool
Superchats are just coming.
You guys rock.
We love you.
The superchats are amazing and I'm sorry if we can't get to you but it's like we've only gotten through 11 minutes of superchats in the past 25 minutes.
adam crigler
Oh wow.
tim pool
That's amazing.
adam crigler
You guys are great.
I love you guys.
tim pool
I don't want to just read them as fast as possible like a speed reading.
adam crigler
I got this.
I got this.
I love you guys.
You guys are great.
Thanks for hanging out with us.
tim pool
Zachary says, your square panels in the back look like the containment rooms in the video game Control.
The beanie is an object of power.
Pandemic is an A.W.E.
adam crigler
I don't know that game.
tim pool
Me neither.
Charlie says, the vegan taco shop I work for is opening next week.
Can't wait to get back to it.
Come visit us in Massachusetts, y'all.
Free tempeh tacos on me.
adam crigler
I went to Austin to visit a friend of mine in Texas and we went to this bar and it was it was great and you know I was having a good time he's like oh you want to go get some tacos I'm like I don't know if they'll have anything for me he's like bro just come and I'm like all right so we walked back and there's like three different taco trucks he's like yeah which one do you want I'm like what do you mean which one like which one can I have and he's like they're all vegan I'm like yes they were so good Simba Bam Bam says, Hey Tim, with you speaking about pew pew machines, would you ever accept a sponsorship from a company that manufactures, distributes, sells firearms?
tim pool
Maybe in time because I, you know, one of the problems I have with like the sales people who want to, you know, have me do ads is like, I have to know it, use it and really believe in it.
adam crigler
Agreed.
tim pool
You're never going to see me doing it.
Like I got a video game company reached out to me and offered me an insane amount of money.
And then I was like, what do you think Adam?
And you were like, this game is bad.
And I was like, we're not doing it.
adam crigler
Yeah, I was like, I looked at the game.
tim pool
Don't say it though, don't say the name.
adam crigler
I'm not gonna say the name, but I know mobile games, and it was not a good, it wasn't, it was just, it wanted your money, it wanted you to be hooked for a little bit to get some money out of you, and that's, there's a lot of those games.
They're out there, and that's, I can't stand those games.
tim pool
I've had casino games, and I'm like, no.
adam crigler
Yeah, no.
tim pool
No, I have to really like it.
And, you know, the money people don't like that because they want me to have everything.
adam crigler
Respect.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
Virik says, hey guys, what's your take on the Epoch Times?
Do you feel they're trustworthy?
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
To an extent, yes, but they're Falun Gong, I believe, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
What does that mean?
tim pool
They're very, very anti-China.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
And so what you need to understand about them is, for the most part, their stories seem to be pretty good.
News Guard seems to hate them.
And they're very biased against China.
lydia smith
CCP seems to hate them.
tim pool
Oh, definitely.
lydia smith
So make of that what you will.
adam crigler
I've been seeing ads for them on our page.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh, really?
adam crigler
I think so, yeah.
unidentified
They're okay.
tim pool
NewsGuard gives them a bad rating.
I've used them several times.
I think as long as you know their bias, you know what you're getting.
In my experience, they'll likely give you a more positive view of Trump because Trump is anti-China.
But it doesn't mean that they're writing anything that's fake or wrong or anything like that.
It's just the same as Vox.
You know Vox's bias, you know what to look for.
Betafacetchipa says, Government, Cops, Soldiers, FBI, CIA, Auto Rifles, Snipers, RPG, Drones, Armored Trucks, Tanks, Citizens, Pistols, and Semi-Rifles if lucky.
How much power imbalance before tyranny is literally inevitable?
I don't think that matters.
Because the amount of people that are not in the government.
Ritson says, I got a new hat and it's depressing.
Bummer.
adam crigler
That sucks.
tim pool
Helen Wagner says, Tim, I think we need to implement a mandatory firearm safety ethics and etiquette course for all young Americans.
If we have the right to bear arms, we should have the right to proper public education of their use and how to keep them.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
I dig it.
Good idea.
tim pool
It's a good argument.
I think, you know, when it comes to funding public things through taxpayer money, you have a lot of, you have to work through.
Tristan says, I work for a fishing resort on Vancouver Island.
Many rich folk from the West Coast U.S.
come for summer.
I fly from Ontario.
Long flight.
$800 later, an airline only gives credit, no refund.
Any advice?
Not really.
adam crigler
No idea.
tim pool
Dean says, what's the name of the gluten-free sourdough you mentioned the other day?
It's been two weeks since I've had any half-decent bread.
This'll probably be enough for you to buy another loaf.
lydia smith
Do I have to pitch it again?
tim pool
It's Char, right?
lydia smith
Yeah, it's Char.
tim pool
S-C-H-A-R?
unidentified
Mhm.
lydia smith
The A has an umlaut.
It's gluten-free.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Sourdough.
tim pool
It's on Amazon.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Ground Floor Guthrie says, Facebook didn't suppress my post of your video on leaving New Jersey, but I lost seven friends.
I was called stupid and you were called a conspiracy theorist.
unidentified
Huh.
tim pool
It's really funny that me reading CBS News is conspiracy theories, but I guess you know what you can believe if you want.
lydia smith
Weird.
tim pool
Justaluck says, Try again.
You three are great.
Don't ever change.
Appreciate it.
adam crigler
We won't.
tim pool
Steve Hidalgo says, I am happy I left NY.
I wish you these best in everything the Beanie Crew do.
Appreciate it.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Agent Toon says, you should look into southwest Ohio.
You may like the Yellow Springs, northeast of Dayton, 20 minutes from Ryer-Patt AFB, Air Force Base, and where Chappelle moved to, or Loveland or Milford, northeast of Cincinnati.
There's a really, really massive building in West Virginia, really close to Pittsburgh.
You know, it's like the north part of West Virginia.
We'll see what happens.
Trent says, what do you all think is the endgame for the Deep State, aka elite, aka establishment?
There seems to be a populist movement that I assume will grow.
What if any government moves will take place to end antitrust movement?
I don't know what the endgame is.
I think they just want to maintain their power.
And I think it's mostly about people who think they're smarter than everybody else.
That's about it.
The joke I made on Rogan that I often make is that the Galactic Federation won't allow us to join because we're ruled by, you know, it's a multi-governmental planet.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And Joe was like, I don't think there's a Galactic Federation.
I know!
unidentified
I know!
tim pool
I'm just joking!
adam crigler
I think the end comes from people, right now actually, it's people seeing and being unhappy with what's going on and then becoming political and wanting to actually have something change.
And I think there's a hint of that right now.
tim pool
Bread and circuses, man.
adam crigler
What is that?
tim pool
Bread and circuses.
I don't know what you mean.
So to distract the public from politics so they don't interfere, you give them bread and you send them to the circus.
lydia smith
That was Cicero.
tim pool
So now that people are getting more active in politics because of social media, it's breaking apart.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Lou Geonite says, Hey Tim, I live in California and I can say Dems here are deficient at best, complete incompetent scam artists at worst.
I mean, all you have to do is look at our Congress or Pelosi.
Great content.
Appreciate it.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Eric Mancius.
Can we talk about the authoritarian Nazis?
Telling on their fellow Americans.
Sure, that's what the Germans did.
It's the funniest thing that they don't understand this, but I guess when people aren't smart enough to understand, they just bleat like sheep.
William says, sex is now outlaw for your protection.
We have so many virus, disease, and illnesses.
We must stop until we can cure them.
All the other diseases.
Tristan says, Tim, what do you think on Canada resigning another deal with the Saudis selling them armored trucks?
There are videos of them attacking Yemen with the same vehicles, but with mounted turrets on them.
I don't know anything about it.
lydia smith
These things happen.
I don't know.
tim pool
International conflict foreign policy is so ridiculously complicated.
I know it's funny that people always say it's complicated when I talk about it, but it's like, dude, if I tried to pretend like I could tell you what the right moves are more than half the time, it's lying.
These people are lying.
When these people make videos or commentary and they're like, this is what they really should do, it's like, dude, you have no idea all the intricate pieces that are connected to each other in this.
I think America tends to do stupid things, though.
So, what is this?
Aaron H says, Jack was on Joe Rogan Experience twice, but Joe never asked him about the 900-pound gorilla in the room.
Shady hiding of content.
Neither did you.
Why not?
I don't know if that's a reference to, but if it's a reference to banning people, I thought that was the gist of the conversation.
Shadowbanning?
I'm pretty sure that came up too with, uh, was it Ronna McDaniel getting shadowbanned?
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
I thought it did.
STFU says, Fauci holds a finger to the wind before deciding to poop.
Oh yeah.
fear fenders is a little l a i got to balance in the mail one to my parents address in one to mine
Wow.
i didn't know which one to use so i use both i was also just sent a voter registration form for my nine-year-old
form covered
uh... c a seriously she's a little about twice
jimmy lawrence's hi tim so now that bernie sanders is Some people will vote twice.
Well, if you've been watching the show over the past several weeks, I've said I am leaning in that direction.
It seems more likely.
And Trump is the best for the economy.
Adams outright said yes.
adam crigler
Yeah, I'm going to vote for him.
tim pool
For me, I'm leaning in that direction.
We'll see what happens.
There's still a lot that can change.
I melt those fences.
What do you expect?
adam crigler
I'm living up to your name.
tim pool
Yeah.
Trettick says, Alex Austin Stierna said in the 1600s, what is this?
It means, don't you know my son how little wisdom the world has governed?
Quite fitting for today.
Oddball Gaming says, don't trend on me.
Was the rally flag for South Carolina militia in the Revolution War.
Interesting.
Like Fry Like Fry says, soy plus barbarian.
Adam the Soy-barian.
Evildoers, this is a soy man you should fear.
From the people that brought us Soy Jesus versus Soylent Green Ninjas, we bring you a tale of a soy-eating barbarian and his two axes of justice.
Adam the Soy-barian.
adam crigler
My axes of justice.
I love that.
That's awesome.
tim pool
like right thank you for that drunk shovel says don't let them take our
american slogans don't cut on me clickety-clack gtf back france says on the libertarian
front I think I'm on the Dave Smith approach it's not that all of
a sudden the country's libertarian
its people adopt the idea of libertarianism not and not being forced
Track media only.
66% that stayed home got infected.
In other news, many people were in lockdown while still going out to get food at least once a week, and even when not in lockdown, normally most people eventually go home.
Uriel and Omni, thanks for joining.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Uriel says, today's show is brought to you by the letter T and viewers like you.
Thank you.
You know it.
adam crigler
So true.
tim pool
Wolfault DeLeon says, November 1st, 2017, my fellow Americans, over the next several years, next several days, you will undoubtedly realize that we are taking back our great country, the land of the free, from tyrants that wish to do us harm.
Nazox says, Tim, do you believe that with stimulus money being sent out it will cause an economic resurgence leading to more people becoming investors?
UBI equals VAT on luxury, cannabis, psychedelics, tech services.
I don't think so.
I think that implies there's going to be excess wealth and disposable income.
But what people need to understand about UBI or any kind of direct payments to people is that the value of money is rooted in a bunch of different things.
One of those is rooted partly in the lowest cost of human labor.
Hmm, so if you if you have to pay one dollar for every apple
That's you know plucked from a tree that means you have to sell the apple apple for more than one dollar
If you raise the cost of pulling the apple from a tree to two dollars now the apples must cost more than two dollars
so the lowest level of You know of skill the you know day laborer who picks apples
if you have a really high minimum wage Then apples all go up in price and apple pies are more
expensive than apple cake anything uses apples everyone who eats apples
It just makes everything go up immediately.
adam crigler
Yeah, and that's just apples.
tim pool
People don't realize the economy isn't necessarily so much about the money.
Although it does play a huge role, it's how much do we value the individuals, and then how does that ripple up through how, you know, money works, so... Eh, it's a complicated question, I suppose.
The art of the real, thanks for the super chat.
Attitude and action, thank you.
Jabberwolf says, well-regulated meant well-functioning, and definitions do matter when laws are written.
This is one of the functions of the Supreme Court, to ensure that laws are enforced with the correct intent.
Exactly.
Well-functioning, well-regulated.
Zachariah says, the Second Amendment wording came from Virginian law stating that the equipment that each household was supposed to own, i.e.
how much shot, how much powder, Crowder did a special last 4th of July on it, check it out.
Right, that's basically, I think, what I was trying to get at.
Zipties says, I've heard that well-regulated meant well-trained and or well-organized.
Exactly.
Latsies online, in regards to population density, Japan does this NP.
In regards to contact tracing app, it sounds like data brokers in Maniac on Netflix.
Farmer Hank says, I am an ND resident.
The worst thing about it is that if you refuse to comply with contact tracing, you can end up spending a month in jail or be fined.
adam crigler
Whoa!
tim pool
Don't go to North Dakota.
Yikes.
Ryan says, watch The Patriot.
It's eerie how you can see the similarities between the people against the revolution and people today against opening up neighbor turning on neighbor.
Yes, I just watched The Patriot.
It was awesome.
Seen it many times.
adam crigler
I gotta watch that movie.
tim pool
Bobcat says, as far as these data harvester, for less than the cost of a decent date in Philly, I could make them think LIDS is in six different parts of the city at once.
They don't sanity check their data.
Yeah, there's a lot of GPS spoofers.
Furby says, contact tracing would be used to implicate you in crimes more than actually solving them.
It's part of the 5A video just placing you there opens the door.
Government with unlimited funds, you stand little chance.
Lunger.
Easy fix.
Don't take your tech when you are planning or committing a crime.
Leave it at a bar for an alibi.
That's what I did when my wife said she had to find my iPhone on my phone.
Chris Mayberry.
Thanks for the super chat.
That was a joke, by the way.
People couldn't get it.
Paul Hurtado says, first super chat.
Re-contact tracing.
I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery.
Thomas Jefferson.
Here, here.
adam crigler
Nice.
tim pool
Christopher says, Lydia, they already do this on the highways in Florida.
Cameras they use for sending you tickets in the mail for missing tolls and speeding with a nice picture of the driver car and plate called the pay-by-plate system.
lydia smith
Yeah, exactly.
adam crigler
I remember that.
tim pool
Chad T says, I'm okay with some of the trafficking, but, uh, the tracking, but, not the trafficking, some of the tracking, but only if I get a choice in it.
Also, I think there should be oversight that is ran by Tim Poole and Joe Rogan.
I wouldn't take the job.
What?
Is that real?
Roman Dev says, just a reminder for everyone that the Donald.win was made after Kami Reddit
kicked, effectively banned us from their website.
We now have more monthly visitors than Huffington Post.
What?
Is that real?
That's crazy.
That's awesome.
Yeah, so Reddit quarantined, shut down, manipulated the algorithm so that the Donald subreddit
wasn't getting any, like, attraction.
It's hard to find.
adam crigler
So they started their own site?
tim pool
They made their own Reddit.
unidentified
Wow!
tim pool
It's like, it's basically a clone of Reddit called, it's the donald.win, that's the URL.
adam crigler
That's awesome.
tim pool
And you'll see, it's like, they do their thing.
adam crigler
Good for them.
tim pool
Now they have their own version.
Well, that's Reddit's fault.
adam crigler
Reddit's going down.
tim pool
Ashley says, in Australia, they have cameras at key spots that read your number plate, act as a red light camera and speed cameras.
You then get a fine in the post, mainly in South Australia.
Wow.
We have that here for the most part.
lydia smith
Yeah, similar.
adam crigler
But actually, in Arizona, where I was living, they have them everywhere.
And they had such a problem with so many people not caring and just blowing the lights and not showing up that it was costing them more money to go after the people than them making money from the fines that they took all the cameras down.
That's pretty funny.
lydia smith
Wow.
That sounds right.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh, man.
It's too much.
We're getting slammed with super chats, man.
This is crazy.
We're trying to go fast, and I'm still getting way too many.
adam crigler
You're doing a great job.
It's Friday.
We're good.
Maybe we should go get a glass of whiskey.
unidentified
Where are we at?
lydia smith
We're chilling.
tim pool
Man, wow.
Yeah, where are we at?
Here we go, here we go.
ShadowSTU says, Vogue Tim Vogue, and that was a reference to me doing the TikTok dancing.
adam crigler
I can't wait to see that on Twitter.
lydia smith
It's a GIF already.
I've seen it.
unidentified
Is it?
lydia smith
Yes!
It's already up there.
adam crigler
Thank you, thank you chat.
That's for me.
They did that for me, by the way.
Not anyone else.
It was just me that they did that for.
tim pool
Lateman says, if you ever feel like adding percussion to your musical repertoire, consider a bodhran.
It's an Irish drum that doesn't take up as much space as a standard drum kit.
In terms of playing it, I consider it similar to a guitar.
Really?
Interesting.
adam crigler
But it's actually a physical drum, not an electric drum?
tim pool
I don't know, I guess.
adam crigler
What is the name of it?
tim pool
Bode-ran?
adam crigler
Bode-ran.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Cool, I'm gonna check that out.
tim pool
Kennedy says, what's up guys?
Just found your podcast Thursday and have been listening non-stop.
Great content, Tim, Adam, and Lydia.
Spin the UFO!
adam crigler
There it is.
unidentified
Alright, don't mind if I do.
tim pool
Chris says, California resident was working two jobs before this hit lost both and my insurance.
Spent two months without pulling unemployment because I don't want to be coddled by CA.
Started to after realizing the government directly shut down both.
Brutal, man.
Leo Araya, thanks for the super chat.
Mr. Paul R says, it's muscle memory to close the chat on phone and smash the like button.
Need Lydia on Harmony in jam time.
Love y'all do, keep it up.
For sure.
Michael says, give it the awesome show.
And what's your thought on the deergasm?
Bahaha.
We did a segment on it.
People got mad at us.
adam crigler
I think that represented my reaction there.
tim pool
Yeah.
And I'll issue a correction.
I said voyeurism, and I was correct.
It's exhibitionist.
adam crigler
Yeah, exhibitionist.
tim pool
Exhibitionist.
People who like people watching them and seeing this weird, you know.
lydia smith
Attention and weirdness.
tim pool
Elijah says, how about Denny's closing 15 restaurants in New York and laying off 500 plus employees?
unidentified
Ooh, wow.
tim pool
New York is done for, man.
lydia smith
Dude.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's gonna be a different place.
tim pool
They did it to themselves.
Florida's fine.
South Dakota's fine.
Yeah, maybe.
You just want more power?
Trump getting elected plus COVID crisis has exposed the true philosophies of the left. Thoughts?
What that no matter what happens they're opposed to whatever Trump does or yeah maybe that's that's
just basically all I can you know yeah. Canned TM.
What is the right time to use Second Amendment?
It's hard to wrap my mind around.
It was written for standing against tyranny.
We are under it and have experienced it.
It's not just for home invasions.
When is the time?
I honestly don't know.
I really don't.
But I'm willing to bet that now that, you know, Fauci's like, like, let, you know, open things up.
We are seeing every state slowly reopen.
There's gonna be a bunch of lawsuits.
And I think we're gonna see a lot of people win.
I do.
I do.
So I'm actually fairly confident.
I'm feeling good.
We'll see though.
Blackmagic, spin the UFO or we riot!
Also, it's my birthday.
Can Lydia wish Blackmagic a happy birthday?
lydia smith
Yeah, happy birthday, bro!
Blackmagic, you match my t-shirt.
tim pool
Love it.
adam crigler
That was a happy birthday spin for you.
unidentified
Yeah, that's right.
tim pool
Now the UFO's spinning.
lydia smith
Perfect.
adam crigler
Now it's really spinning.
tim pool
I wonder how many UFOs we've sold because, like, it's become a thing.
adam crigler
Who knows?
tim pool
Like, why did we start selling so many?
lydia smith
The company's probably so happy.
adam crigler
I love it.
tim pool
Kobe says, I'm new here.
Chat is saying UFO.
I don't know what that is, but spin UFO.
lydia smith
You got it!
unidentified
We just did!
I will!
Oh, do it again.
lydia smith
Oh, it's gonna fall off the stairs.
tim pool
No, you can't spin it too much.
unidentified
Okay, done.
adam crigler
Just a little bit.
I mean, it was a super chat.
I couldn't not do it.
tim pool
That's fair.
Ophir and Kobe, thanks for becoming members.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
What is this?
B13SR says, $10 to grab Tim's beanie.
lydia smith
Nope, not even 10.
tim pool
You need to add a lot more.
adam crigler
I can't reach it.
tim pool
Gabrielle McLeod says, unemployment fraud.
Trudeau says, hold my beer.
Our Canada government knows of actual fraud.
Told tax agency not to investigate or stop payments and continue to allow it.
unidentified
Oh, jeez.
tim pool
Gotta love Canada, man.
lydia smith
Great idea.
tim pool
St.
Miles says, Lids just got a mega thumbs up from me.
Here's to you, Lydia.
lydia smith
Woohoo, thank you.
tim pool
Mark Martinez says, GOP flip House seats in Wisconsin and CA, and state-local elections in PA and VA.
Pattern or coincidence?
Pattern, pattern, pattern.
FiveThirtyEight said it was a sign of a blue wave if the Democrats won, the Republicans won, so by that logic, red wave.
What they specifically said was that if a party overperforms, it's a sign of a coming blue wave.
So if the Democrats do well, the blue wave is coming.
Well, the Republicans overperformed.
lydia smith
Therefore.
tim pool
If their logic is that overperformance equals wave, then red wave is coming.
But what did they write the next, you know, two days or a week later?
lydia smith
Blue wave's coming.
tim pool
Is a blue wave coming?
Yeah, ooh, silly question.
It's like, what are you doing?
lydia smith
They're hoping.
unidentified
No.
adam crigler
I got this.
No, it's not.
tim pool
No, yeah, I don't.
Hey, hey, hey.
It's, don't make.
adam crigler
Speculation.
tim pool
No hard predictions, you know.
adam crigler
I'm speculating.
tim pool
You're allowed to, you for sure.
adam crigler
It's a hard speculation, though.
tim pool
Darun says, book recommendations, incarnations of immortality by Piers Anthony.
Laura says, this is just for Lydia.
She just became the podcast darling.
lydia smith
Oh, thanks.
unidentified
Just?
adam crigler
She just became?
lydia smith
Come on.
adam crigler
She's been the podcast darling since we started.
Come on.
tim pool
Someone chatted, Lidcast IRL.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
adam crigler
Coming soon.
tim pool
Netgamer says, I have mixed feels.
I what the lockdown I want the lockdown to last longer, want it to, here on Long Island, but I know if we do, it's just hurting us in the long term.
How do you feel about it?
adam crigler
We gotta open up.
tim pool
Well, I defer to Fauci.
He's the expert, and he says, you know, far be it for me to tell anybody, but if Dr. Fauci says we need to reopen, we're gonna have to do it.
lydia smith
Yeah, I think we are gonna have to do it.
adam crigler
Well, Fauci said it.
We need to open.
lydia smith
I will defer to him.
tim pool
HipHop says, need more open-minded women like Lydia.
Michael Coventry says you guys are awesome.
Can't wait till Jim opens in Ontario.
Dave says, move to Austin.
Central time is a good bridge between Eastern and Pacific time.
Property is cheaper, good airports, safe from natural disasters, and lots of food options for all of you.
Texas is cool.
adam crigler
It's a cool place.
tim pool
Tim says, Tim Farrow says, Tim, if you read this, my man, you are my number one source for news.
I support one of your channels, and you've changed my view on social media.
Keep it up.
You are making a difference.
I appreciate that.
lydia smith
Awesome.
tim pool
I always recommend to watch other channels too, for sure.
Check out Jimmy Dore.
Jimmy Dore is awesome.
Keys says, uh, when will we get a soy beanie dating site for those of us that are looking for like-minded mates?
Love you guys.
Love your guys' work.
Thank you.
adam crigler
Appreciate it.
I think those exist.
Like vegan dating sites, I think.
I'm pretty sure they exist.
I don't know.
lydia smith
There's one for farmers.
There's definitely one for vegans.
adam crigler
There's gotta be a vegan dating site.
tim pool
I don't know.
adam crigler
Sorry.
I don't know the name of it though.
tim pool
Ascendiate asks, Adam, have you read other Brandon Sanderson books?
adam crigler
Yes, I have.
I've read everything.
All of them.
Anything he writes I read because it's good.
He's that good.
tim pool
Let's see, where are we at?
adam crigler
Oh man, we lost him.
tim pool
Roto says, I social distance via boat in the middle of the... how do you pronounce that?
Shoo-shoo-lee-kill?
adam crigler
The skookle.
tim pool
Skookle.
Ah, skookle.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Yet get yelled at by a woman about wearing a mask.
She ran to a bridge to stand 20 feet over me to yell down.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
That's amazing.
That's a Karen.
adam crigler
Philadelphia.
tim pool
I agree.
Will says Falun Gong is a cult that's anti-science and racial segregationist.
And Epoch Times tends to espouse QAnon.
Also they're behind those Shen Yun shows.
Remember the enemy of my enemy is not my friend.
I agree.
I don't know too much about Epoch Times.
Crafty Work says, hey Tim Pool, what do you think about having term limits on both the
House and the Senate?
And instead, every citizen has to serve like jury duty.
Might help with corruption.
I'm not entirely convinced.
Demarchy sounds interesting.
That's where it's randomly selected.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So it's kind of like jury duty.
One day you're like, Oh, I got Congress duty.
And it's, and it's not term limits.
It's just randomized.
So you're like, you almost never serve a second term.
adam crigler
There's something about that I like.
Sounds cool.
If done, implemented correctly.
tim pool
Ethan says, FYI, Tim, Stixxhexenhammer666, real name is Tarl Warwick.
Thought you could use that info after your Biden fudge up video you did today.
Oh, because I said Mr. Stixx?
I know his real name.
lydia smith
Yeah, Mr. Stixx.
tim pool
Yeah, Tarl.
He writes books.
adam crigler
Mr. Stixx is pretty funny, though.
tim pool
I thought it was funny.
Mr. Hexenhammer.
I like it.
Michael Coventry.
It's also promoting, like, giving you the name of his channel, so you can go find him.
Michael Coventry, thanks for the super chat, says, here's another 20.
Jay Shinsato says, Aloha from Hawaii.
unidentified
What up?
tim pool
Is that from Hawaii?
First, thank you for real reporting.
Second, quarantine here is complicated.
Some visitors tend to go uber Karen and ruin things.
Breaking quarantine is a secondary issue, compared to people without respect for our islands.
Oh, definitely, man.
adam crigler
Yeah, I bet.
tim pool
Tourists.
Jesse Clark says, thanks for all your work.
Can you say, I told you so, Lady Deavish.
She will get a kick.
Did I say it right?
adam crigler
Well, you said it, certainly.
tim pool
certainly. Hey, you says, do you think this election offers a chance to any third party
candidates given the circumstances? If so, who and would you consider voting for them?
I don't know. Yes, but for the left, because the progressives have like broken away from
the Democrats, it's very likely we'll see a major left.
There's another reason why I think Biden can't win. They're discounting the displeasure
from progressives. And a lot of a lot of these progressives want Trump to win so they
can say, I told you so. Some of them might even vote for Trump. A lot of them might just
go out and vote for Green party.
We'll see what happens.
Yeah.
Joshua says, treat- whoa, just jumped on us.
Treat weapons as always loaded.
Never point a weapon at anything you aren't willing to destroy.
Keep your fingers straight and off the trigger until you intend to fire.
Know your target and what lies beyond it.
lydia smith
Great rule.
adam crigler
Those are the four rules.
lydia smith
Is that the four rules?
adam crigler
Smart.
Makes sense.
tim pool
Flood says, spin it!
There are 34,644 Karens in a stelter.
34,644 Karens in a stelter.
Downskate it says.
If you're looking for a YouTuber in your local area that could explain gun laws
very well, John Patton of the Gun Collective is in the Philly area and
T-Rex Arms video about Second A explains the history in English common law.
unidentified
Cool.
adam crigler
Right on.
tim pool
TJ Edwards 18 says, Joe Rogan podcast featuring Elon Musk, Alex Jones, and you would be awesome and hilarious.
Throw sticks, hex and hammer in there too lol.
lydia smith
Oh for sure.
tim pool
David says, hey Adam, have you read Name of the Wind, and do you think the third book will come out this year, or will that be another Calamity of 2020?
adam crigler
He said that it's gonna come out, so I did read it, and it was... I mean, we'll see.
I don't know, COVID seems to be setting a lot of things back.
It wouldn't surprise me, but we can only hope.
tim pool
Rick Hayes says the spark of the Revolutionary War was the Battle of Lexington and Concord where the British marched to take the colonists' guns and ammo.
And there's actually, the correct historical way to phrase it is that the regulars came to seize the colonists because they were all subjects of Britain until that started it.
Noel Arcto says, Adam, ever read Brent Weeks' books?
adam crigler
Brent Weeks, yeah.
Also a really good author.
tim pool
This guy knows his authors.
adam crigler
I know sci-fi.
Sci-fi books.
That's my jam.
tim pool
Ethan Johansen says, oh I literally thought you didn't know his name.
Sorry man, I guess I didn't catch the joke.
Yeah, well, you know.
Ario says, for books I would recommend any of Jim Butcher's works.
Codex Alera, Dresden Files, Aeronauts Windlass.
So, you getting ready to jam?
Yeah!
Alright, so we're going to music mode now.
unidentified
Sweet.
tim pool
So we gotta fix the audio.
First, let's just jump over to the jam.
So, actually, hold on.
Before we do this.
Before we jump over.
We still got a lot for you guys.
Now we go into party mode, basically.
So if you haven't already, you can follow me at Timcast.
Follow me on Instagram and you'll see skateboarding, you know, travel stuff.
I just post whatever.
And you can follow me on Twitter as well, and that's where I usually complain about media, politics, usually political or something.
Usually.
lydia smith
Yeah, always.
tim pool
Not always, sometimes I post weird things.
And then you also have Mr. Adam, who's now over by the jam cam, but you can see- Invisible.
In the top left of the screen there, at Adam Crigler.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
You can actually send him story suggestions and ideas.
So that would be great if you got any ideas, you want to talk to him, you want to share stuff you want on the show, you can follow him on Twitter, send him those things.
Also follow him on Instagram for other, you know, shenanigans.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Am I on?
Make sure you hit the like button if you haven't already.
It really does help for some reason.
Comments, we get your comments coming in.
We're about to have a jam session.
Adam will play a song, I'll play a song.
Adam may play a lot more songs.
I'll go to bed, maybe Adam will hang out.
We'll see what happens.
So stick around.
Adam's gonna play some live music for you guys right now.
lydia smith
Sweet.
You ready, bro?
Get everything set up.
unidentified
All right.
adam crigler
Am I on?
tim pool
You are on.
adam crigler
Well, I had to get, it's Friday night.
And I was told by this rock star once, I was playing CBGBs and they were going on before me
unidentified
and they were like, oh, I gotta go get some whiskey before I play.
adam crigler
I was like, whiskey?
What do you mean?
unidentified
You're about to go on.
adam crigler
They're like, oh no no no, trust me.
A little whiskey before you play.
tim pool
Adam loves his whiskey.
unidentified
I do, it's in my blood.
Um, I'm gonna play that song that you like.
adam crigler
Takin' It Back?
unidentified
So this is called Takin' It Back.
I haven't played this one yet.
So you guys don't know this one, but... If I was a younger man I'd probably make the same mistake twice The closer the heart is, the harder it becomes to do what's right.
Even through the thick and thin, secretly we want to win.
Well, I'm takin' it back, takin' it back, takin' it back.
It's time to confess our sins Whoa, before this world you've built crumbles away
I've spent some time lost in my mind, disappointed.
Well, that's just the sting from expecting, and that's what you get.
Oh, it's a simple sacrifice.
Drop a little bit of pride.
I know it's exhausting.
Oh, I'm taking it back, taking it back, taking it back.
It's time to find me.
Long before this world I've built crumbles away It started with cold feet, let me begin again
Hindsight's obviously the clearest option.
I'm taking it back with all that I believe in.
Everything happens, I won't fight the reason.
You say you've learned from your mistakes that you're experienced
Then comes the day from that field that they say has left you in a daze
Oh Oh, it happens all the time.
A high tide of the mind struggling for oxygen.
Oh, and taking it back, taking it back, taking it back is the only option.
Oh, before the world you built crumbles away.
It started with cold feet, let me begin again.
Hindsight's obviously the clearest option.
I'm taking it back with all that I believe in.
Everything happens, I won't fight the reasons.
Thank you, thank you everyone.
Tim, you wanna play one?
Maybe.
tim pool
I'll play something bad.
adam crigler
He's walking over, he's gonna play something.
tim pool
I don't know where to sit though.
Sit right there!
Let me flip this.
I'm going to flip this.
unidentified
That's good.
How do I, uh...
tim pool
I know, I know, I know.
unidentified
I'm going to flip this.
tim pool
I'm going to play some music.
I'm gonna play some music!
adam crigler
Cheers, everyone!
unidentified
Happy Friday!
tim pool
Now, the important thing y'all need to know is that I woke up at 7 a.m.
Recorded.
Now, what are we going on?
Four hours worth of content.
unidentified
And now y'all want me to sing some songs.
tim pool
But you know it's Friday, right?
That's what we're doing?
I'm gonna try and play this song that's like...
I'm gonna try and play this song for you guys.
I don't know if I'll be able to do it.
unidentified
Just do it!
Out on the march in the morning He called his soldiers down To take aim at the traitors To gun those rebels down
Now they'll face the consequences They held themselves above
This is the will of the people He said I wish I could spare them
Make them see the path.
Tempting as that sounds.
A laugh to pass.
I know what's needed for the good of my people.
To save them.
Out in the dark, without warning, he raised his fist above, let a cry to his people, to tear those statues down.
Now they'll face the consequences, they held themselves above,
tim pool
this is the will of the people, he said.
unidentified
I wish I could spare them.
Make them see the path, tempting as that sounds I'll have to pass, I know what's needed
For the good of my people, to save them Now drop your arms and march for them
tim pool
Face the wall and bow your head If you have any last words, let them be said.
unidentified
He was out on the march in the morning.
He called his comrades down to take aim at the traitors.
To gun those fascists down.
Now they'll face the consequences.
They held themselves above.
tim pool
This is the will of the people.
unidentified
He said, I wish I could spare them.
Make them see the path.
tim pool
Blessed were those days we held in vain.
I'd give it up for a chance of redemption.
unidentified
As the cycle turns again You've seen it before, now you'll see it begin
But hey, but guess, hey, the violence turns again.
You think it ends here?
But hey, but yes, hey, the violence turns again You think it ends here? Wait, my friend
adam crigler
What's the name of that song?
tim pool
Will of the People.
adam crigler
People were wondering what the name of that song was.
unidentified
That song is called The Will of the People.
tim pool
You wanna play more?
unidentified
Yeah, I'll play one more.
adam crigler
I haven't fingerpicked a song.
I'm gonna do that.
So that was Will of the People.
I love that song.
I've listened to a lot of his songs before and that's one of my favorites of his.
This is called She's Just.
unidentified
It's just gone too far, she said, as she took another drink at the bar.
And to tell you what the truth is, I just never knew when to stop.
I never knew when to stop.
She was sitting in the corner, trying to pick up her pride.
They didn't disown her.
Oh, but she wished that they had tried.
Been gone three summers.
Made all the difference in the world.
Least ten years older in her mind.
But that's alright.
Moved to California.
Out to live that western dream.
But her eastern persona wouldn't ever, ever let her be.
She always ends up missing home.
She always ends up missing home.
Missing home So many before her, she's just
Just another face in the crowd Well it's becoming clearer to her, but she's not ready right now.
Well she's not ready to go and tensions grew bolder.
Impatience picked up steam.
Too many people told her you have to stay and take what's in your reach.
I won't just stand here watching all my players My hands fall through, cause I've discovered it's all about the time I use.
Moved to California, out to live that western dream, but her eastern persona would never ever let her be.
She always had a missing hole.
She always ends up missing home.
Missing home.
So maybe it's just gone too far, she said, as she took another drink at the bar.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Thank you, everybody.
adam crigler
Thank you.
Thanks for tuning in.
unidentified
I don't know if, uh, I think I'm done.
adam crigler
I mean, it's, uh, I love playing music.
It feels great to play for people again.
So thanks for staying around and listening to us play.
It's going to be a normal thing on Friday.
So yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun.
tim pool
It's going to get a lot better because we are going to, let me, uh, let me fix the audio mixing real quick.
unidentified
Fixing the audio.
tim pool
To the best of my abilities, I suppose.
unidentified
I need some hold music.
tim pool
We are going to be adding instruments, we got a mixer, and this is actually a little bit preliminary.
One of the reasons we moved up to the bigger space from the previous space was because we want to actually have, like, guests, man.
You know, jam sessions.
We could probably even have, like, some comedy stuff, too.
adam crigler
Ooh, you're right!
That would be fun.
tim pool
Be fun to get someone to come out and do a few minutes of, like, jokes or whatever.
So, that space that we have is just temporary.
It's just where we hung the guitars.
It's actually like a lounge space for guests when they show up.
We actually have an area we're putting together where it's going to be like an actual stool, drum kit, and stuff, and we're working on it.
So, it's going to be a heckin' good time.
adam crigler
A heckin' good time.
That's funny.
tim pool
So, thanks to everybody for the Super Chats.
unidentified
Should we get to bed, I guess?
adam crigler
I see a bunch of new super chats.
tim pool
I mean, it is, um, you know, it's just a lot of people saying Adam is awesome, you know, and how awesome Tim is.
adam crigler
His music is great.
tim pool
No, so, but yeah, I love you guys.
adam crigler
You guys are so great.
I mean, they paid money to tell us how good we are.
At least we can do is read it.
tim pool
Read compliments about, like, Tim, you're great.
Okay, here you go.
adam crigler
Seriously though, thanks for everybody for hanging out and listen to us play.
It's, it's really, it's great.
tim pool
Yeah, I've been playing music since I was, uh, I started playing drums when I was seven.
adam crigler
Wow.
I didn't even know.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
That long.
Wow.
tim pool
Since I was seven, I started playing guitar when I was 12 and I've been writing music the entire time.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
I started skateboarding when I was just about to turn 14.
So I was 13 and doing that.
adam crigler
It shows.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You know what?
You know what?
I am lucky.
Oh, you know why I'm lucky?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
My mom homeschooled me before kindergarten.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
You were ready to go.
unidentified
That's true.
adam crigler
You're a go-getter.
tim pool
to go. As you know, as for being someone from the south side of Chicago, one of the few
people who had parents who were like, get the kids to do something. Yeah. But also it's
just part of who I am, you know, I think being the youngest in my family, wanting to skate,
wanting to just do better, wanting to solve problems, level up. Yeah. So I play, uh, we
got, we have, uh, that, that song I played, I wonder how many of you understood exactly
adam crigler
Yeah, it's a good song.
tim pool
Yeah, the song is The Will of the People.
I recorded a scratch version.
It's the one that I'm going to put out first, probably.
adam crigler
That's the one that he wants animation for.
tim pool
Yeah, so I've actually talked to some people, and I'll tell you all.
I will reveal the secret behind this song and the plans for the animation.
The first verse is out on the march in the morning.
He called his soldiers down to gun down the rebels, you know, to gun those traitors down or whatever.
It's basically the dictator comes out, he points, he says, you know, take out the activists.
You see the soldiers break into the house, there's protest posters, they arrest the activists, you know, beat them and then black bag them and drag them away, while a kid is hiding under the bed crying, watching it all happening.
Then you see the kid's face turn into a young adult, and then he pulls a mask up, then he raises a fist, and a bunch of people run forward and then knock down statues of the dictator.
And then the first bridge part is where they're executing all of the former regime.
But then the final verse, this young man's face now morphs into an older man who puts on the military cap and then calls a soldier down to take out the activists, because that's why the song is called The Will of the People.
Every single time something bad happens where they think they have a right to suppress the people, they have the right to kill the fascists or whatever.
It's always about the people have willed it so.
That's what everyone thinks.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
God is on my side or whatever.
And so that's what the animation is basically going to be.
That's what we're working on.
adam crigler
That's a good song.
That's a good song.
tim pool
It'll be great with like full music and stuff.
adam crigler
Every time I hear it, it's in my head for a few days.
Yeah.
tim pool
It's good.
adam crigler
I mean, I'm not upset.
It's a good song, but it gets in there.
tim pool
I just wanted to get that real visceral feeling.
It's like where you see the end, the last verse is like the reveal in the video.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Where it's like this revolutionary.
Then it's like his face changes and then he puts on the same general's hat.
adam crigler
Yeah.
Oh, it's such good imagery.
And then he calls the soldiers out.
Yeah, I love it.
tim pool
They break into the same house.
Then there's like a little girl hiding in the bed crying, watching it happening.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then it ends with like kind of a flash of like it just keeps happening over and over again.
Never ends.
unidentified
It's great.
tim pool
That's what it's all about, man.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
It's awesome.
So, uh, I guess we'll wrap things up.
If you, uh, if you managed to hang out this long, you must be big fans of the show.
So we already know, you know, like, share, subscribe, follow everybody.
adam crigler
Thank you, everybody.
tim pool
We'll be back Monday at 8 p.m.
lydia smith
Eastern time.
tim pool
Eastern time.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Again, make sure to follow at Adam Kregler.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Follow me up.
tim pool
At Sour Patch Lids.
L-Y-D-S.
adam crigler
Follow the video.
tim pool
And at Tim Kist.
We'll see you all.
adam crigler
Yeah.
lydia smith
Okay.
Wait, Tim's saying goodbye.
Goodbye, everyone.
tim pool
We'll see you all next time, everybody.
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