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May 21, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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TimcastIRL - Alex Jones Says Joe Rogan Is "Going To War" Over Censorship With Spotify
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tim pool
Welcome to the show, everybody.
This is the TimCast IRL Podcast.
I am Tim Poole.
Tonight, I am hanging out with the same people I hang out with every night.
lydia smith
It's true.
adam crigler
What's going on, everybody?
It's Adam Krigler here.
Thanks for joining us.
lydia smith
And Lydia, producer Lydia, with my Alkaline Trio t-shirt.
tim pool
Alkaline Trio, local Chicago music.
No, they're huge, they're national.
Oh man, Alex Jones, he came out and he said, Joe Rogan is going to war over censorship!
And he talked a lot about Joe calling him.
There's a lot to talk about here because I'm sitting here, we were originally going to talk about something else, something totally different.
We're going to talk about contact tracing.
We are.
And then I saw this article, and it's obviously not being covered by the mainstream media.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
It's being covered by a bunch of small, independent blogs, conspiracy sites, and stuff like that.
adam crigler
Well, they don't want to spread it around.
tim pool
Well, it's also Alex Jones.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And there's a lot to question.
And so when I heard him saying that, you know, Joe Rogan called him and told him this stuff, I'm like, I don't know about that.
I got to do something real quick.
What are we at?
adam crigler
I believe you're actually looking at a text from Joe right now.
Is that what you're doing?
unidentified
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
tim pool
I'm trying to get confirmation.
adam crigler
Hey, man.
lydia smith
Yeah, we want confirmation before we talk about it.
tim pool
Confirmation.
And it's a last minute thing.
So we just changed the title.
It was like, we're gonna talk about contact tracing.
adam crigler
Well, I mean, people want to know that you're getting it from the source.
tim pool
But the problem is, when I'm talking with someone, be it Adam Krigler, Luke Rudkowski, Joe Rogan, I have to make sure I don't violate privacy.
You know, I don't know what I'm allowed to talk about.
I don't know what's on the record, what's not.
So I can't talk about, you know, unless they say to me like, hey, this is what's what, you're cool.
And so I'm trying to figure things out.
I have not figured anything out.
But Alex Jones did say that Joe Rogan called him and said some things, and so as soon as I heard that I was like, I don't know if I believe that.
I gotta text some people, see what's going on.
But, I have not gotten any confirmation, but I did have kind of like a lightbulb moment about what Joe is doing with Spotify, and how it's going to revolutionize, and whether or not Joe is really going to war, what Alex Jones says, this might save the internet.
adam crigler
I hope so.
tim pool
I mean it.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I was sitting here and I'm like, we're going to talk about contact tracing and people getting their phones together.
And I was like, whoa, wait a minute.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
So we're going to talk about it.
Everybody calm down.
If you're just tuning in, hit that like button.
Just smash it.
Give us all those likes.
Because at the end of the year, Joe will be leaving YouTube.
And so we, among with all of the other video podcasts, are going to be in a battle royale, like Hunger Games style.
So we're going to win.
We're going to claim.
No, I'm just kidding.
But someone will eventually, you know, become the top YouTube show.
But anyway, hit the like button if you want to.
You can jump in the super chat if you would like to ask questions.
However, I must remind everybody, when we get to, you know, we've been averaging maybe like 10 or 12, one night even like 15, 16,000 people.
I love all you guys, really appreciate all the superchats.
It literally does become impossible to actually read everything, so we try to, you know, just work for a couple hours, because most of you realize I work through the mornings, and then this is the second show, it's two hours, so it's tough.
I can't, you know, I'd love to stay here for five hours all night, read literally everyone, but it's hard to do.
So get your superchats if you'd like.
We usually go through the ones from the earliest in the night, and then it gets harder to read the ones from later on.
We've got a couple stories though.
So we're definitely be talking about contact tracing because Apple just did this big iOS update and there's a viral image going around saying it's the new API for the contact tracing apps.
And this has people freaking out because contact tracing basically means the general idea with your phone is that if I walk up to you Okay.
It's messed up.
like tag each other.
adam crigler
OK.
tim pool
And then they can see who everyone talked to and
you know, or who made contact with who else.
They'll know where you went.
And it's like an extreme level of spying.
adam crigler
It did just ask me if I needed to update.
And I said no.
tim pool
I bet it's in there.
unidentified
I bet.
adam crigler
I didn't update it.
Now I don't want to.
tim pool
Because you have iPhone.
adam crigler
I do, yeah.
tim pool
That's it.
No, no, no.
Pull it up.
Pull it up.
No, I don't... No, pull up the description of what it is.
adam crigler
Oh, I... Okay.
tim pool
And we can read what it says.
Let's see.
So that's a big deal.
And I think this initial update isn't what you need to be worried about.
It's what comes next.
And we'll talk about that too.
And then maybe we'll talk about aliens, because we've been talking about how we want to talk about aliens.
adam crigler
Yeah, but it might make me update it.
tim pool
No, no, no.
It says before you update it, like, it shows you what it is and then you click install.
I mean, what are you gonna do?
You gonna avoid the update and just like never do it?
adam crigler
Yes.
unidentified
Yep.
adam crigler
I'm dead serious.
tim pool
Is there something feedbacking about you?
adam crigler
I don't mind.
tim pool
A power cable or something?
adam crigler
Yeah, I hear that too, yeah.
tim pool
It's annoying when that happens.
Like, you get one of the cables gets too close to another cable and then... So, the first thing you've got to do is gossip, man.
The censorship gossip is huge.
We've got to talk about this.
adam crigler
I'm reading the update right now.
You know what?
I'll get it ready for when we talk about the next one.
tim pool
We'll talk about the update, but here's what we're going to do now.
Let's talk about this Madhouse News.
I have no idea what this website is, but that's okay.
Oh, it's actually being reviewed by NewsGuard.
Look at this.
NewsGuard's in the process of reviewing Madhouse News.
lydia smith
Oh, Madhouse News.
adam crigler
Interesting.
lydia smith
Interesting.
tim pool
I mean, I haven't read it.
Let's read it.
I Google-searched, you know, Alex Jones, Joe Rogan, nothing comes up.
This is what I was able to find through, it was on r slash conspiracy on Reddit.
This is the article they posted.
And I watched some of the video from Rogan.
He said some interesting things.
And if this is true, there might be a really big... Joe Rogan may be about to use his weight.
Maybe it's inadvertent, but it might really break censorship.
adam crigler
Joe Rogan, you're the hero we all need.
tim pool
Yeah, well, let's check.
adam crigler
We'll see.
tim pool
Here's the story, right?
So again, I don't know what Madhouse News is, but they say Joe Rogan says he is going to war against Google and Big Tech.
Full stop.
No, Joe Rogan didn't say that.
Alex Jones said that Joe called him and said this.
Right.
So that is not confirmed.
If you trust Alex Jones, I guess, personally, and I mean this with all due respect, I don't.
You know, I'm not trying to drag the guy.
I'm just saying I want to hear it straight from Joe before I just believe what Alex Jones is saying.
Alex Jones exclusively revealed Thursday that Joe Rogan signed an exclusivity contract for his podcast with Spotify as a way of striking back against YouTube censorship.
Jones, who has been friends with Rogan for 22 years, spoke at length with the podcast King, with Rogan telling him that he should announce to the world that the move is a direct strike against Google, that the, quote, gloves are off and he is going to war against big tech tyranny.
Jones told his audience that Rogan had encouraged him to go on air and put it all out there.
The deal, suggested to be worth $100 million.
Full stop.
Yashir Ali.
He's a Huffington Post contributor.
Very well known.
High profile journalist.
Said $200 million.
That's an update.
I don't know if that's true.
The deal would be worth $100 million.
Was announced earlier this week.
Analysts are saying that it will change the face of media forever.
I agree.
Jones, who has appeared on the Joe Rogan Experience numerous times, also announced that Rogan had specifically requested in his contract with Spotify that the InfoWars host will be allowed to appear uncensored on the podcast on Spotify.
Jones said Rogan wants him as the first guest on the show when it arrives on Spotify on the 1st of September, followed by Elon Musk, who is also currently speaking out against big tech censorship and cancel culture.
Whoa.
I don't know about that.
Let's see what they have to say on this one.
Oh, this is a link to InfoWars.
InfoWars says Google got caught shadowbanning Joe Rogan's number one podcast.
Whoa.
Google was subsequently caught shadow banning the episode in an attempt to stop its popularity.
This is a, I don't know about that.
Let's see what they have to say on this one.
Oh, this is a link to Infowars.
They said Infowars says Google got caught shadow banning Joe Rogan's number one podcast.
We'll come back to that.
They say, Jones said Rogan told him he's sick of being treated poorly by Google.
And the straw that broke the camel's back was that Rogan wanted to interview doctors
and experts who have differing opinions on the coronavirus to the officially sanctioned
narrative and was told by YouTube that they would not allow such content on their platform.
I don't know if Joe actually said that, but I can tell you, there was a former advisor to the World Health Organization, this is going viral on Twitter, I don't know if I actually have the tweets pulled up, but apparently, World Health Organization.
Advisor.
Gave an interview.
YouTube pulled it.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Yup.
Creepy stuff.
They say Rogan also told Jones the lockdown has provided him with more clarity on the situation.
Rogan has noted on his podcast that YouTube is consistently demonetizing his content and removing videos.
He told Jones that he sees it not only as un-American but also anti-human.
An excited Jones described Describe?
I think maybe decried?
It could be decried.
adam crigler
Decreed?
tim pool
I don't know.
He said the move by Rogan was peak internet.
I don't know what they're trying to say, whether it was positive or negative, unless described is a word I'm not familiar with.
Rogan's podcast was downloaded 190 million times per month last year.
His YouTube channel has 8.42 million subs, and the move away is sure to be a huge strike against big tech thought control.
Note to readers, eh, whatever.
So this links to the InfoWars story.
I don't know what their evidence that this was being shadow banned is.
Let's see what they say.
The video wasn't appearing.
Alex Jones returns.
And then you can see it's not here.
Alex Jones believed the video's disappearance could be tied to real-time manipulation of the platform's algorithms, especially as his interview with Rogan has recently begun appearing as the top search result for the search term Alex Jones on YouTube.
I actually believe that's possible because they did it to me just the other day.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So I did a video on the lockdown and it did not appear.
So for those that don't know the context, lockdown, you know, has happened across the country.
In Virginia, people flooded to the beaches.
I did a video and I said, the people have spoken.
They're ignoring these orders, and the video did not appear on my channel, so I raised a huge stink on Twitter, and then people started sharing the video, and the video started to pick up views through direct shares.
Now, the video actually appears on the channel, so I think, I don't know what their strategy is, I don't play that.
If any of my videos get shadowbanned or censored, I go full on every other platform, share it, share it, share it, and I ask everybody to share it.
And it's only with your guys' help who do share it that we actually break that attempt at censoring the video.
So YouTube, I think... Let me tell you a quick story, and then we're gonna talk about...
This is, if this is true, and if what we're already hearing about Rogan, if he does bring on Alex Jones, it's going to break the internet.
And I mean, seriously.
But let me first tell you a quick story.
adam crigler
Or save the internet.
tim pool
No, I mean break it as in like the current structure of power is going to be shattered.
adam crigler
It's going to be great.
Basically the same, yeah.
tim pool
It's going to be really, really good.
Really good.
Let me tell you a quick story.
A lot of these companies know they can't take instant, direct action.
They can't just ban me, they can't just ban Alex Jones, they can't just ban Joe Rogan.
Alex Jones was, like, over a long period of time, and it wasn't until, like, one site pulled him that the others used that as a cover to try and get rid of him immediately.
And it did start a huge backlash.
So, these companies know that to purge channels, you gotta do it slowly.
One at a time, so you don't create a big wave that hits the press.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
That's why we've been seeing people banned on YouTube.
They'll get banned, and it'll be like one channel.
And then everyone's like, oh, what's this all about?
But this is one channel.
It's, you know, one guy.
And then the next week, it's another channel.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then another channel.
adam crigler
How long ago was Alex banned?
When was this?
tim pool
A couple years ago, maybe?
unidentified
A couple years now?
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
Do you know when it was banned?
lydia smith
I'm not sure.
I can look it up, though.
Let me check.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
Trying to figure out where that buzz is coming from.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh, there we go.
unidentified
Okay.
adam crigler
There it is.
tim pool
I think I got it.
So, um, in order to actually make these changes, they do it slowly and they, and they learned this early on.
It's really funny.
It actually took Facebook a long time.
The famous story is that eBay, the website used to be yellow.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
One day they changed it to white and everyone complained.
adam crigler
I remember this.
tim pool
So they changed it.
adam crigler
Slowly changed the color, right?
tim pool
Every day they did one increment towards white.
And then a year later, nobody knew it changed.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So, we saw that with Facebook, too.
adam crigler
Funny.
tim pool
When they do these instant rollovers, everyone complains.
Same thing just happened with YouTube.
When they switched to the new studio, everybody's complaining.
I was complaining.
It was bad.
It was bad.
They fixed a lot of the problems, so I'm happy with it.
But here's what I think.
You know, with YouTube, they are absolutely purging a lot of people.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But Joe Rogan's too big.
He's the biggest podcast in the world.
So we asked Alex Jones, what are they going to do about it?
I don't know.
And everybody screamed, you can't do this, he's violating the rules.
And then I think it was, was it Logan Paul who had him on?
adam crigler
I don't know.
lydia smith
I don't remember.
tim pool
Logan Paul had Alex Jones?
I don't know who the Paul brothers are.
What the heck?
I can't tell, I don't know who they are, but one of them had them on their podcast.
What Alex Jones is saying, if Alex Jones really is guaranteed to be the first guest for Joe
Rogan on September 1st, Joe Rogan will force YouTube to not censor the podcast and effectively
not censor anything at all after that.
It will be like... But how does that work, though?
adam crigler
He's going to be on Spotify, not YouTube, doing his podcast.
tim pool
When he launches on Spotify, it will be still on YouTube and iTunes.
adam crigler
So it'll be live on YouTube as well?
Yep.
Oh, okay.
tim pool
And so, you know what that means?
adam crigler
Well, not live.
He doesn't do them live.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
It'll be, like, published.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
He's not doing a live stream, any of it.
Right, right, right, right.
Here's my general understanding.
I haven't gotten any confirmation or anything.
I'd like to.
But if... So Joe has said, September 1st, it's gonna be on Spotify, and then later in the year, it'll become exclusive on Spotify, right?
That means there's this period of a few months where...
If it's true what Jones is saying, that Joe wants to interview doctors, but YouTube says they'll ban him, what's going to happen then on September 3rd, after Elon Musk comes on the show, and Joe Rogan has on this World Health Organization doctor who recently got banned?
And that's everybody saying that.
and Joe goes, do it, I'm on Spotify.
adam crigler
Yeah, I don't care.
tim pool
And then everyone else is gonna laugh at YouTube.
Right.
And they're gonna be like, do it, YouTube, ban him.
Cause he's on Spotify, we'll all go there, no problem.
adam crigler
Yep, and that's, everybody's saying that.
Actually, people are coming to me saying, you, Tim Poole and your show,
meaning this show here, and Joe Rogan, are the only reasons they're still on YouTube.
That's it.
They're like, if Tim gets banned, and Joe's leaving already, there's no reason for me to go to YouTube anymore.
It's not the same as it used to be.
tim pool
I think this is why YouTube likes me.
There are people who used to watch a lot of these...
I don't know how to describe some of these channels.
More right-wing channels that eventually have been banned and demonetized.
And there's an overlap with... I think it's more libertarian, to be honest.
Because YouTube originally was very much a libertarian community, not conservative.
Conservative's a relatively new thing.
We've been watching the spike in conservative channels.
There's an overlap for the culture war right with content like mine.
You know, anti-SJW, free speech, all that kind of stuff, right?
So even though I'm a, you know, of liberal sensibilities in terms of policy, that is completely irrelevant to the political conversation today.
No one cares.
Left and right doesn't mean it anymore.
So YouTube says, we're gonna ban all these people.
But then we're gonna lose all these users.
Who do we have they'll stick around to watch?
Well, they'll watch Tim Pool, you know?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
They're like, great.
That way we don't lose the users, but we can get rid of people, you know, these other people.
adam crigler
Oh, they're gonna lose a lot of users, I think.
tim pool
With Joe Rogan moving, I think so.
adam crigler
Yeah, definitely.
tim pool
But I do think Joe will lose a lot of viewers, too.
I do.
But here's just the sledgehammer to the dam, man.
September 1st, Joe Rogan has on Alex Jones.
I don't know if that's actually true, I'm just saying, that's what Alex Jones is claiming.
YouTube is going to be put in a very, very tough position.
We are going to lose the king of podcast unless we allow this content to exist on the platform.
We're already, hey, hey, YouTube might say, you know what, we're losing them anyway, ban them.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I think that's most likely.
No?
That's true.
around because Joe said he's leaving.
adam crigler
I think that's most likely.
tim pool
I don't think so.
No, no way.
The bad press would be, it would be nuts.
The press would be insane.
adam crigler
That's true.
It is the biggest podcast.
tim pool
And then think about the statement that would come out of Spotify.
They would love it.
Spotify!
Oh man, Spotify would be like... That would be their new commercial.
Yup!
Joe Rogan absolutely made the correct move in, you know, joining the Spotify family.
We will absolutely protect his right to speech and stuff.
And I'm sure Spotify has some kind of, like, protections for really, really fringe characters.
But here's what it's all about, man.
On Hulu, because we talked about this the other day when we were talking about Joe doing the Spotify deal.
I can watch Solar Opposites from Justin Roiland where they cuss and swear all night and it is very adult.
And Hulu's got no problem with it.
It's YouTube that is doing the weird censorship of like World Health Organization advisors.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And real doctors.
So yeah, maybe it is the right move to get off this platform.
Because Joe's spoken about the censorship on his show being bad.
I'm pretty sure.
I mean, actually, I'm pretty sure we talked about it.
Yeah.
So, Alex Jones is the first person?
If that's true, I mean, it's gonna be huge.
That's a bold statement.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Elon Musk being second, I'm like, I don't know.
That's not an issue.
It's that if in this time period where he's doing the show, he starts bringing on guests and YouTube then is forced to ban him, it's Spotify's gonna be so happy.
adam crigler
Yep.
Especially with, uh, all the other people that they've been slowing up slowly.
Well, yeah, I'm talking about YouTube though.
They're, they're banning people.
They're getting stricter.
People are getting fed up with YouTube and they're like, what, what is going on here?
So if this works for Rogan, it's like Spotify is going to be like, come on, this might join our family.
Come on.
And they're just going to explode.
tim pool
I really, really doubt this, but I feel like deep down there may be someone involved in this that understands.
This gap period where Joe will simultaneously be gearing up to go exclusive on Spotify but still be on iTunes and YouTube will be an excellent marketing opportunity for Spotify.
Think about it this way.
When you look at the comments on the Joe Rogan subreddit and on the YouTube videos about his move, there's a lot of people saying, I won't move.
I'm not gonna go to Spotify.
There are people saying, RIP comment section.
People saying, you know, Joe sold out, stuff like that.
So think about what Spotify- Sold out?
adam crigler
That's ridiculous.
Yeah, it's- What does that even mean?
tim pool
Like, he has any- Come on.
Any allegiance to YouTube?
adam crigler
It'll be free with ads.
He puts it out there.
It's a free show.
You're like, what?
And isn't Spotify, there's a free version too?
tim pool
I mean, it'll be free with ads.
adam crigler
Right.
Right.
Okay.
tim pool
So, so, so look, look at this way.
Spotify knows they're not going to be able to convert most of his YouTube followers.
adam crigler
Right.
Okay.
tim pool
They're hoping that his core fan base bring, bringing the show will bring these
people there and eventually.
adam crigler
I'm sure out of the 8 million people, 4 million, maybe 5 million.
tim pool
A lot of people.
adam crigler
Or already have Spotify.
tim pool
I'm sure that Joe's probably got a million unique individuals who are guaranteed to watch the show every day.
Or listen to the show every day.
adam crigler
Yeah, probably.
tim pool
And then it's the numbers above that.
So that's split between his podcast, which probably gets... I don't know how much his podcast gets.
But, you know, out of the two or three million per episode he gets, 100 are core fans who are always coming back.
That's maybe a high estimate, I'm thinking.
But think, from Spotify's perspective, they need a catalyst to where the YouTube people jump to Spotify.
So how do you do it?
You antagonize YouTube.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
So in this month of September... That's his plan.
Joe can be like, I can have on anybody I want, because I signed this deal with Spotify.
So he brings on doctors, and then YouTube, if YouTube does, say episode 3, September 3rd, or whatever the date is, I don't know if the 3rd was even a, what day that is.
Let's say Joe brings on this guy from the World Health Organization who got banned, or those two doctors in SoCal who got banned.
That's what I want to see.
them on. That's what I want to see. YouTube then says we're banning this podcast. And
then Spotify is a statement. The podcast is readily available for anybody who'd like to
hear it on our platform free of charge. It's unfortunate that YouTube would engage in censorship.
And then that says to all the people on YouTube who are in the middle of watching and we got
cut off. Come to Spotify, baby.
adam crigler
Well, that's why I cut it off.
It does make sense that it's basically going to war against the big, big companies.
I think although Spotify, I mean, it is pretty big company, you know, but I guess it's not YouTube, not YouTube big.
I mean.
tim pool
Have you seen... What's that movie called?
Cobra Kai.
adam crigler
No, I haven't.
tim pool
On YouTube.
adam crigler
No, I haven't seen it yet.
tim pool
It was really funny.
The show was amazing.
I didn't watch the second season.
I watched the first season.
adam crigler
I heard it was good, though.
tim pool
YouTube original.
And for those that aren't familiar, it basically is a sequel to The Karate Kid, where it's basically making the main character from Karate Kid the bad guy.
So actually, this is hilarious.
There was a viral video that argued the main character from Karate Kid was the bad guy.
adam crigler
Yeah, all the time.
tim pool
Yeah.
And that this dude was just like minding his own business and this kid kept, you know, messing with him, trying to steal his girlfriend.
And so they do this new show where he's basically like an old, you know, like sensei.
Deadbeat.
No, no, he's like a deadbeat.
And then he becomes better.
adam crigler
Right, right, right.
tim pool
The show was edgy and offensive.
And so a lot of us on YouTube that we were laughing.
It's funny.
YouTube will make a show that breaks their rules and we can't do the same thing.
How about that?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
That's how broken YouTube is as a business.
adam crigler
What's true for thee, but not me.
tim pool
And I don't know what it is.
I do think things are getting better on YouTube.
I think so.
I've noticed a lot of changes.
Apparently, we got messaged the other night.
People were saying that the TimCast IRL podcast got verified by YouTube, which means we got a little checkmark.
adam crigler
Oh, we're verified, people!
That's right, we're verified.
tim pool
I don't know when that happened, because it's a new channel.
I don't know when that happened, but apparently YouTube, you know, did this.
And I have to wonder if This move that Joe is doing, it's all speculation whether or not he really does this like anti-censorship salvo.
adam crigler
But he is leaving.
tim pool
He should totally do it.
adam crigler
But he is leaving though.
tim pool
He is leaving.
adam crigler
That's for sure.
tim pool
And so why wouldn't he?
adam crigler
Why wouldn't he?
You're right.
tim pool
Joe, I'm pretty sure, like, it's hard for me to say definitively because I've listened to a ton of his podcast,
but I'm pretty sure he was talking about the doctors getting banned and all that stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So, assuming that's all true, I'd imagine he would want to have on, you know—
adam crigler
Those doctors.
tim pool
Or just a different opinion.
adam crigler
You're right.
tim pool
About what we should be doing.
Why would YouTube have it as policy to ban a doctor?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
As prestigious as this guy.
I forgot his name, but I think his name was Nutt.
It was K-N-U-T.
Can you look that up?
lydia smith
Yeah, it was some Swedish guy, right?
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
So why would YouTube ban that?
Why would YouTube shadow ban my video?
I'm like, these things are happening.
I'm not making them up.
CBS reported this.
Why would you ban me from talking about it?
In fact, you got CBS on your platform talking about it.
So I wonder, I wonder if YouTube only started doing this because they were scared of the press and the negative press they were getting, so something else might happen.
YouTube may be doing this out of fear, because the advertisers react to the bad press from the activists in press.
adam crigler
Probably.
tim pool
So when Joe Rogan goes on Spotify, and Spotify has a guaranteed contract and won't take the podcast down, YouTube might say to the press when the press complains, it's on Spotify.
What are you mad at us for?
It's an exclusive deal with Spotify, but you're hosting it like Spotify's hosting it.
And promoting it!
And then that's the defense YouTube might have.
Hey, don't look at us.
We're not the one who signed the exclusive deal on how he's doing it.
So that might actually pressure YouTube into going back towards supporting more free speech.
adam crigler
I sure hope so.
tim pool
Yeah?
adam crigler
It reminds me of this tweet that I have got pulled up here.
I can't show you guys, it's on my computer, but it's basically comparing the immune system to our mental... Drop it in the document, I'll pull it up.
Alright, let's see.
unidentified
And then we'll keep explaining it and then I'll... Well, I mean, it's just a simple sentence.
adam crigler
It's just basically our immune systems need to handle different viruses and diseases to get stronger.
Same with our intellectual defenses.
Like we need to be exposed to good ideas and bad ideas to know what a good
idea is and what a bad idea is.
It's kind of like the same thing.
So if they're only getting rid of all these things that they consider bad and
all this is good, but we're going to keep all of this, it's just pushing people to
the, I don't want to say stupid people, but like people, I mean, it feels like
everyone's fed up with this anyway, but there's a lot of people out there that
are only going to believe what they see on YouTube, what's still allowed to be there,
tim pool
What they don't understand is that the reason people are really into, say, Plandemic, and the reason why people are torching 5G towers is because, partly, of their censorship.
Are you familiar with the Galman Amnesia Effect?
I think I've told you about it before.
adam crigler
Sounds familiar.
Enlighten us.
tim pool
Yes.
It's a fake name that was made by some guy because it was a joke about sounding legit.
The idea is that if you're an expert skateboarder, You open up a magazine or a newspaper or you open a news article and it says, the skateboarder did a whirly bird down a down a down a flue bowl.
And you're like, those aren't things.
What is this?
This is nonsense.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Because you're an expert, you can clearly see the nonsense.
And you say, this is fake news.
adam crigler
Yes.
Okay.
tim pool
But then you turn the page and it's a story about Syria.
And they say, you know, Syrian dictator bombed kids.
And you go, wow, I didn't know that.
You've immediately forgotten that this paper is publishing fake news because you trust the other stuff you're not an expert in.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
That makes sense.
But I do appreciate you saying expert skateboard and pointing to me.
tim pool
Yes!
adam crigler
I appreciate that.
tim pool
So I bring that up for a specific reason.
When people see the New York Times lie, Defend Joe Biden.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, any sane, rational person who reads the news saw the New York Times repeatedly defend the Christine Blasey Ford who accused Brett Kavanaugh.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then when this accuser came out against Joe Biden, defend Joe Biden.
The double standard was palpable.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So now that they don't trust the mainstream media, they turn to independent commentary.
And then YouTube shuts it down.
What's the first thing they think?
The establishment is protecting itself.
This must be true.
Otherwise, they wouldn't hide it from us.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
And that's not the case.
adam crigler
Well, not necessarily.
It could be true, but not guaranteed.
tim pool
They're not censoring it because it's true, and they're scared of you learning the truth.
They're censoring it because it is the mainstream narrative that's safe for their advertisers.
So when Amazon banned the sale of masks or something, they removed masks.
Then Fauci said, don't wear a mask.
Masks are bad.
I can't tell you how many messages I got from people saying, dude, get your masks quick.
And I'm like, they're doing the opposite of what they were advised to do.
And it's funny because now they're saying, get your masks or else or else we'll arrest you.
It's the stupidest thing, man.
adam crigler
Get out of the store without a mask.
Get out.
tim pool
Yeah.
There's a funny viral tweet where it's like the evolution of masks.
It's like, masks don't work.
If you wear them, you're killing your grandmother.
Then it said, like, don't buy masks.
The doctors and nurses need them.
Then it was like, masks don't really matter.
Then consider buying a mask.
Everyone must wear a mask if they go into a private business.
If you don't wear a mask outside, you'll be arrested.
It's like, what?
lydia smith
It's been quite the while, right?
adam crigler
Can you make up your mind, please?
lydia smith
Seriously, yes.
adam crigler
Make up your mind.
tim pool
So people naturally don't believe it.
And then they go on YouTube, where they can see someone like me, and then they see someone like me get shadowbanned and censored.
So, it'll be interesting.
I wonder how much Alex Jones is making up.
Not in the sense of details, but showmanship.
adam crigler
Well, he is a showman.
tim pool
Here's what I imagine.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Here's what I imagine.
I imagine Joe signs this deal.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then he's thinking, look, the Alex Jones podcast with 17 million views.
So he calls up his, you know, his buddy Alex and says, Hey, what's up, buddy, man?
Um, I want to have you on the show, man.
It did really, really well last time you were on.
I'd love to have you on.
And then Alex was like, Oh, that, that sounds fantastic.
I'd love to be on it.
It's going to be okay.
And then, you know, Joe says something to the effect of, I cleared it with the Spotify contract I can have on whatever guest I want.
adam crigler
Nice.
tim pool
Alex hears, I cleared it, that I can have you on.
You know what I mean?
So like, Joe may have said, you're all good, my contract says you can come on.
What it really says is they can't interfere with his guests.
Alex hears, I'm specifically in the contract.
adam crigler
Yeah.
And also hears, I'm doing whatever I want now because I'm no longer at YouTube and I got this contract with Spotify.
tim pool
Right, or Joe says something like, you know, it was a good opportunity and I worry a bit about the censorship, I don't like how they're handling it.
And then what happens is Alex goes, You know, Joe says he's going to war, that he's refusing the censorship, and his contract specifically says I can be on, and it's actually much more simple, like, hey bud, how you doing?
You know, like, it's cool, my contract's great.
And then it becomes this article where the headline says Joe Rogan says he's going to war against Google because Alex Jones has exclusively revealed it.
It's like, wait for Joe Rogan to say something like that.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Not Alex Jones, who is a showman who rips his shirt off.
adam crigler
Who went on another person's show, didn't he?
He revealed it, not even on his own show, he went on someone else's show.
tim pool
Yeah, he was on a podcast, yeah.
No, but that was, I think that was, is that Robert Barnes' show?
lydia smith
Yeah, I think so.
tim pool
But that's still part of Jones' network, I'm pretty sure.
adam crigler
Oh, I have no idea.
tim pool
Yeah, Jones.
Like, a lot of people don't realize banning Jones didn't do anything.
I mean, it did.
It definitely hurt his revenue because he was doing a lot of sales.
It definitely took him off of the mainstream social platforms.
But Alex Jones has been around for a long time, like syndicated radio shows.
I don't know a whole lot about how his show works, but I'm pretty sure he's on the radio.
Like, you can be in the middle of nowhere and turn on the radio and it's like, this is the Alex Jones program.
Then he comes on and he talks.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
That's why when all of the, all the censorship stuff happened, I heard he didn't actually lose that much money.
And that's why he built a new site.
He's, he's, he's been doing his own, uh, video platform.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like he just does his own thing.
Cause he's rich.
I was making a ridiculous amount of money.
adam crigler
Right on.
tim pool
I don't know the exact number, but when they banned him, all that it really meant was he went and built his own infrastructure because he's rich and continues to be.
adam crigler
And was able to, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
So here's what I'm hoping.
September 3rd, 4th, 5th, whatever, Joe starts having on more of these guests that YouTube hates, but it forces YouTube to maintain because he's got an alternative now.
This competition, man, it's market competition.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
So YouTube gets scared, like, if we censor these videos, everyone will ask Spotify for a deal.
adam crigler
And if they do it, I feel like they're just going to push more of Joe Rogan's fans out of YouTube.
tim pool
Exactly.
So Spotify probably knows that.
adam crigler
Right.
It already feels like everyone's kind of fed up with YouTube.
So if they do make that choice, everyone's going to be like, you know what?
That's it.
The straw.
That's the one that broke my back.
I'm out.
I don't need you.
You know, Alex is doing fine without him.
Joe Rogan's going to do... People are saying he's going to like flop.
It's like, no, he's not.
He's going to continue doing what he's doing.
tim pool
I don't think people realize Joe probably doesn't care.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
He's good.
adam crigler
He's set up.
tim pool
He's a famous comedian.
He's an MMA commentator.
He was at Netflix specials.
And he does the show the way he wants to do it.
Now he's got a deal that could be, you know, Wall Street Journal says $100 million plus over a multi-year contract.
adam crigler
Well, now he's going to do the show how he really wants to do it.
Without any restrictions.
lydia smith
I'm excited.
tim pool
That's probably it.
Gloves are off.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
I'm excited.
tim pool
That's what Alice Jones was saying.
I think that might be it.
adam crigler
His show is going to be better now.
tim pool
It's going to be epic.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Wow, dude, early days, early Rogan was crazy stuff.
And then things started to get, you know, like, dude, I just went on the Rogan podcast and I told him, you can't say this name.
That was probably like, you can't, you can't say it.
And he's like, write it down for me, write it down.
And then he was like, I don't even know who that is.
And I'm like, CIA whistleblower, you can't say it.
So why would you want to do that?
If a company came around and said, nah, you can say whatever you want.
Deal.
No more censorship.
No more self-censorship.
Guaranteed money.
Done.
adam crigler
Yeah, that sounds good.
tim pool
YouTube.
There's an interesting problem YouTube's facing with this.
I remember I was talking to friends about this ten years ago.
There was a big channel, really really big, in like 2010.
And I was talking to some of the guys who hosted, I was at Tribeca Film Festival.
And this was like, I think this was like six years ago.
They said they used to get a million plus on every video, and they were making mad cash.
But then something happened and they started only getting a couple hundred thousand.
And I said, it's a few things.
In my opinion, it is saturation.
YouTube is getting way too many new creators.
And so every day you're competing with a bigger and bigger space.
adam crigler
That makes sense.
tim pool
Less eyeballs to go around, right?
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
Early days of YouTube, you got 10 channels, but a billion people, everybody gets a lot of views.
The other thing is, I was like, the content you make is silly.
and fun. And have you considered your demographic is aging out? And they didn't understand the
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
concept. Yeah. Like, what do you, what do you mean? Well, when you did that video of like,
I'm just making something up of like, you know, a guy dressed like a dinosaur jumping off of a
building into a pool. Yeah. 12 year olds laughed and all started watching it and you got a ton of
views. Right.
Now the people who've been following you there for five years, 30s or no, not another 20.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
tim pool
And now they want to talk about, you know, partying college drinking.
They're facing new challenges at college about student debt.
They're starting to ask questions and you're still dressing like a dinosaur and jumping in a swimming pool.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Now you could argue, but we would have attracted a new younger generation to replace it.
And I'm like, Snapchat.
adam crigler
It's TikTok.
tim pool
Now it's TikTok.
I'm like, they're not on YouTube, bro.
It's like you captured them on that platform.
They are.
There's still a lot of young people on YouTube.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
But you captured them when they came.
And now kids today who are joining YouTube are watching Minecraft.
You don't make Minecraft.
You make silly prank videos.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So the kids aren't watching that.
Your audience, your numbers are going down.
So I wonder, this is something that will affect YouTube across the board.
They need their content to be more mature as the young people who use YouTube grow up.
Most people, it's like, if you're older than 40, it's a sliding scale where it's like, 17-year-olds are up here using YouTube, and then they're like, 17s are way down here for television.
But it's inverted for 45-year-olds.
45-year-olds are up here for television and down here for YouTube.
But as those young people, and like, I'm sure, you know, the joke we made a couple days ago was that you're a 34-year-old male named John watching right now.
The people who, like, the largest faction of, like, the largest demographic for all of my content, including IRL, is, like, 30-year-old males.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Where were these people 10 years ago?
What were they doing?
Watching different content.
Now it's politics.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Now it's the president.
Now it's, you know, censorship.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So those old channels aren't going to capture anymore.
That means if YouTube doesn't have a strong base of creators maturing along with the audience, they lose that entire audience.
And now that YouTube's been censoring channels like this, what do they have to attract people?
It's like I've been on YouTube for 10 years and now YouTube is just not fun to watch anymore.
Because the content I grew up with, the creators I was aligned with, who matured alongside me, can't talk about what they want to talk about anymore.
adam crigler
Yeah, people have been texting me about it.
Basically, YouTube itself is also changing in a different manner.
It's getting less and less the YouTube hole.
You used to go into a YouTube hole and find the craziest stuff, and now it's just half mainstream media and half whatever they want you to see.
And it's just not, it's not as fun and vast as it was once, you know?
tim pool
Yeah, the press claimed that YouTube was a rabbit hole for extremism.
And they used the far right as their scapegoat, as their straw man.
Fundamentally not true.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And several studies, so there's never been, my understanding is that there hasn't been a real study proving it, but there have been studies disproving it.
There have been people who have claimed they did analysis proving it, but those are lies.
The ones, especially the ones that include me, that I debunk.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Because, you know, the way I explain to people, the media argues that if you watch a conservative video, then you'll naturally drift towards the far right.
That makes no sense.
Those are two different arguments.
It would be like saying, if you eat too much chocolate, eventually you'll like white chocolate.
It's like, they're different things.
Like they're both chocolate.
I get it.
So the argument was, you know, conservatives are anti-immigration, or anti-illegal immigration, and if you watch too much of that, eventually you'll oppose immigration outright.
No, that's not true.
adam crigler
Yeah, that doesn't make any sense.
tim pool
Because conservatives have been arguing for controlled, metered immigration.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So if you watch their videos, you'll agree with them on, you know, I think, what does Trump say?
Like, everybody can come if they come legally?
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
That's very different from saying no immigration at all.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So the example I give to people is like, if you watched a bunch of Batman videos, would you all of a sudden be a Batman cultist dressing like Batman and running around your city?
adam crigler
I'm sure it happens.
unidentified
I don't want to leave it out, but who knows?
tim pool
I remember those days of YouTube, man, where you would type in like flat earth and then you'd get a whole bunch of the craziest, silliest videos and they were hilarious to watch.
adam crigler
They were kind of funny.
tim pool
I don't believe the world is flat, but it's funny watching some guy go on this screed rant passionately about how he can prove it, and it's nonsense.
adam crigler
Yeah, especially when one of your friends believes in flat earth and makes you watch all of the videos.
unidentified
Who's that?
adam crigler
I'm not going to say the name, but I'm talking to you, buddy.
lydia smith
He knows who he is.
adam crigler
I don't know who he's watching right now.
unidentified
Maybe.
adam crigler
But he tried to convince me.
He put me, like, we sat and he's like, you gotta watch this video.
And I'm like, sure, show me.
All right, let's do this.
I'm just like, okay, where's the science there?
What about the science?
It's like, there's no, this is just a belief system.
And that's all it is, really.
tim pool
I've watched, I recently watched, they're still on YouTube.
adam crigler
Yeah, they're still there, I'm sure.
tim pool
I was watching one where the guy was like, just saying things.
Like, the sun is actually this big, therefore, this makes, like, this thing they've said about the blue dot in this photo makes no sense because the sun is actually only this big.
And I'm like, how do you know the sun is that big?
Like, just saying it doesn't prove anything.
adam crigler
Yeah, the whole the moon is the same size as the sun.
tim pool
Yeah, and they just spin.
adam crigler
And it's just crazy.
It's the perfect ratio.
I think it's 10 times the moon.
It's like 100 times further than the moon, which is 10 times.
I don't know.
Some perfect ratio that they're the same size.
That's why the eclipses happen.
tim pool
I don't know what it's called.
adam crigler
It's cool.
tim pool
It's not an idiom or something.
It's like a parable, maybe, of the puddle.
Maybe parable is the right word.
Basically, there's a puddle on the ground.
Looking around at the shape of the hole that he's in and he says, this is amazing.
This puddle was perfectly made for me.
It fits me very, very perfectly.
Not realizing that he actually fits the hole.
You understand?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So people look at the earth and all of the things in the solar system and they're like, how could this be possible that we just happen to be on this planet with all these perfect things?
And it's like, out of all of the billions and trillions of planets and stars and whatever, we are here because this is the one with the perfect things.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Not the other way around.
adam crigler
That's, that's it.
tim pool
But, but, but, but back to the point about YouTube.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Do you ever do like a Wikipedia bender?
adam crigler
Sometimes.
I have, yeah.
tim pool
You go on Wikipedia, you read stuff.
It's like, however it happens, you'll read an article and it'll say, like, the California deal of, you know, 1853.
And you're like, I wonder what that is.
And you'll click it and you'll be reading a story about, like, some oil tycoon who, like, sold off his gold fortune to, like, start an oil company.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then you're like, how did the oil barons, you know, come to be?
And then you start reading like crazy.
lydia smith
And then it's 2 a.m.
Yeah, this has happened.
tim pool
And it's fun.
And YouTube used to be like that.
Now it's like you go on YouTube and do a search for something and you get Fox and CBS and you're like, this is really awful.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
It's not just about the mainstream.
It's about how they specifically do not cater to YouTube's core user base or the internet at all.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's exactly right.
You nailed it.
tim pool
If you watch a segment on, you know, CBS, I'm using them on purpose because they're not Fox News or MSNBC, they're going to be like, today Donald Trump spoke briefly in front of the press corps talking about the Obamagate theory.
Donald Trump says that Michael Flynn was spied on.
Jim?
And it's like, you turn it on and you just listen to it.
If you come to a regular YouTuber, they're gonna be like, what's up guys, comment below, I saw what you said the other day, here's what I think, here's the story, and it's much more personal, it's much more interactive, designed for the platform.
YouTube's been moving away from all that.
Because of the bad press.
adam crigler
We're here to bring it back.
Talking to you guys.
tim pool
Yeah, but I mean somewhat.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
Because we get suppressed too.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Depending on whatever we talk about, it's like, if we end up talking about something political, then the only recommendations will be Fox News.
Even remotely, you know?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then they start associating my name with politics, so then if you put my name in it, they're like, there's politics.
And it negatively impacts, like, so, they ended up with all these smear pieces, YouTube panicked, and then destroyed their website.
You know, it could be that, you know, YouTube basically got an arrow right through its heart last year in May when they changed the algorithm.
And it's a slow bleed out.
So YouTube could be dead already.
I mean, Joe Rogan's leaving.
adam crigler
Well, it's interesting how that whole hiccup that happened.
Was it earlier this week?
Was it on Monday?
tim pool
Hiccup?
adam crigler
Yeah, we were trying to get the studio to work and YouTube was out.
People were tweeting us like, yo, YouTube's not working.
And we were like, what is going on?
It's not loading.
And then all of a sudden, all the video recommendations were changed and were different.
tim pool
Is that what happened?
adam crigler
Yeah.
Yeah, definitely.
I noticed it after that point.
lydia smith
I mean, this is just my view.
Yeah, we're getting like the non-corporate videos again.
We're getting Tim Pool videos.
tim pool
People have been saying that.
adam crigler
People sent me a tweet with a picture of two of your videos, the same video, on the front page, right next to each other.
Both of them were identical, same exact video.
tim pool
It's good news.
adam crigler
I was like, okay.
And suddenly Joe Rogan's like, by the way, I'm leaving YouTube.
The same day, actually.
I think he announced it.
But YouTube obviously knew already.
You know, they probably knew something.
So they're probably sweating.
They're probably sweating like, man, we got to change this because we're going to lose
the internet, essentially.
tim pool
If what Alex Jones is saying is true, it alludes to the fact that Joe Rogan did talk to Google
specifically about his guests.
So what did Alex Jones say?
That Joe said he wants to interview doctors and experts.
Uh, and was told by YouTube they would not allow such content on their platforms.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
That means Rogan was talking to YouTube, that I would then assume YouTube was aware of this deal.
adam crigler
Exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
tim pool
Here's what I'm thinking.
I'm not gonna speak for Joe, I don't know.
But I'll tell you what I would do.
I'll tell you what I've done.
When a company comes to me and says, Mr. Poole, we'd like to do an exclusive deal with you, I say, how much?
And they give me a number, and then I say, I want to be able to do these things.
And they'll say, well, we can't do that, but we can do these.
I say, OK, let me call you back.
You know what the first thing I do is?
I call their competitor.
And I say, I just got a phone call from this company, and they're offering me these things.
Are you interested?
adam crigler
That's X, Y, and Z. What are you going to do?
tim pool
And so I actually, for the sake of other people's privacy, I'll be vague about this, but back when I was, before I joined Vice, it's exactly what I did.
So I got one offer from one company, one offer from another company, and then I went straight to Vice.
I went to Vice and I was like, yo, look at these offers, what do you got?
And then Vice was like, hmm.
And Vice was smarter than me, you know what they did?
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
They went to the other companies and went, he's ours now, what are you gonna give us?
adam crigler
You should have left the company names out of the, you know, redact them from the documents.
tim pool
It wasn't any documents.
It was just like I went, I knew some people there and I went and talked and I said, right now I've got, you know, an offer from this company and an offer from this company.
But to be honest, I'd rather come to you guys if you can offer something comparable.
And so then I'm thinking I'm smart.
It's smart business.
I'm leveraging the competition against each other.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And so Vice was just like, I didn't learn this until later.
That they said, okay, absolutely we'll hire you.
And I said, here's what I want.
Can you beat them?
And they were like, absolutely.
And they vice gave me like carte blanche.
They were like, you'll do whatever you want.
Here's how much we're going to pay you.
And it wasn't that much relative to other companies, but I was like, I get to host all these things.
I get to do what I want.
And then sure enough, they went like basically right away to one of these other companies and said, now that he's here, we want you to do a deal with us if you want access to his content.
At the time I had been doing groundbreaking live stream stuff.
adam crigler
Making that money back that they were now paying you.
unidentified
More!
tim pool
Oh dude, they made like a hundred times.
It was a brilliant move.
But hey, it worked out for everybody.
I got what I wanted, they got what they wanted.
They were able to monetize off it.
So here's what I'm thinking.
I'm thinking this claim, if it's true, that he went to YouTube and they wouldn't allow content on their platforms, it sounds like he went to Spotify.
Probably Spotify contacts Joe.
We want you to do a deal.
He says, okay, let me talk to YouTube.
He goes to YouTube and says, will you do an exclusivity deal with me because Spotify is making an offer?
And they say, yes.
And then he says, I want these guests.
They said, no.
And he went, bye-bye.
adam crigler
Okay, I'm leaving then.
tim pool
That's a maybe.
I don't know for sure.
adam crigler
I mean, that's, it sounds right.
It makes sense.
tim pool
I don't know if YouTube would care for the exclusivity deal.
And he's keeping his clip channel up.
If that's true, it suggests that there won't necessarily be a big anti-censorship.
You know, movement when he when he moves to Spotify.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But I don't think it has to be coordinated.
If Joe wants doctors on and as soon as he's officially on Spotify, he'll have the doctors on.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And it's going to be it's going to be huge for him.
adam crigler
Yeah, I can't wait for him to have those doctors that got removed, the ones from California that were talking about it.
They were basically just explaining the immune system and talking about having a healthy one versus a not healthy one, going outside, staying inside.
Staying inside weakens your immune system.
That's all they were saying.
It wasn't even that crazy, but they deleted it.
tim pool
You see that photo of the guy who's super ripped?
Yeah.
And then six weeks later, he's super thin.
adam crigler
But he had the coronavirus, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it ravages his body, basically.
tim pool
Well, no, it was being in bed for six weeks.
adam crigler
Not eating, not working out.
tim pool
It was, yeah.
adam crigler
I mean, he looked in good shape still.
He was just thin.
lydia smith
He looked...
He had a feeding tube.
You can see it there inside of his stomach, which is a horrible way to get nutrition.
That's not how you're supposed to eat and it should be temporary.
tim pool
So he's laying in bed for six weeks, withering away.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Think about what you're doing locked in your house.
How many people aren't getting exercise, aren't eating bad?
There's memes about this where they're like, there's two kinds of people.
And then like, it's a video of some dude doing like prison workouts.
And then the other person is sitting there with their gut hanging out, like mustard from their corn dog dripping on their belly.
A lot of people got limited exercise, getting up and walking around every day, going out to work, walking to lunch, sitting around doing nothing now.
And being sedentary is going to result in them getting, you know, sick or hurt.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
Which brings us to a good segue to what's going on with COVID then, I guess.
I guess, yeah.
So we can move off of the YouTube stuff, but now let's talk about contact tracing.
So this is freaking everybody out.
adam crigler
Yeah, this is a little creepy, man.
tim pool
Apple releases iOS 13.5 with COVID-19 contact tracing feature face ID improvements.
Can we stop and think about the absurdity of these phones right now?
For the longest time we were scared and we still are of facial recognition technology.
So what do they do?
They put it in our phones.
And now everybody's like, look, I can hold my phone up to my face and it opens.
I'm like, you realize it's a terrible security, right?
Like, if you have a password, they can lock, they'll handcuff you to a chair and be like, give me the password or else!
And you're like, never!
And you spit in his face.
Now they just hold the phone up to your face.
unidentified
Thanks.
tim pool
And they walk away.
lydia smith
They hold it up to a picture of you.
Seriously, that's all you have to do.
I've tried it.
That's why I didn't set that lock on my phone.
I was like, no way.
adam crigler
That's funny.
tim pool
It's a terrible security function.
And so now they're going to be rolling out contact tracing.
For those that aren't familiar what it means is they want to be able to know who came into contact with who.
So if we have these things on our phones, they can pull up a map of everyone we've interacted with.
adam crigler
I'm reading through the update that they're asking me to do right now.
tim pool
So yeah, so here, let's do this.
adam crigler
I haven't seen anything yet.
tim pool
Well done.
adam crigler
There's all sorts of different things here.
tim pool
You want to hold it up?
I mean, I'm just... Well, yeah, but let's see if we can show it.
adam crigler
Well, I haven't found anything yet.
There's, like, camera and photos stuff, and, like, maps is being updated, Siri... Let's see if Siri's got anything.
No, there's a lot that's being updated.
It's like 150 different things.
Oh my gosh.
I'm like searching through it all.
lydia smith
Just slip it in there.
adam crigler
It's too much.
I'm sorry, what?
lydia smith
They just slipped it in there.
adam crigler
Well, maybe.
I don't know if it's this update or if it's a future update.
tim pool
Is that 13.5 it's showing you?
adam crigler
Let's see.
The one I've seen shows the... It's iOS 13.
Not point anything.
tim pool
Oh, so you're way behind.
adam crigler
Maybe I am.
Oh no, I'm on 13.5.
Oh no, it is 13.5.
You're right.
tim pool
At the top, it should say the summary of what it is.
adam crigler
Let's see, I'll read it.
iOS 13 introduces a dramatic new look for iPhone with dark mode, new ways to browse and edit photos, and a private new way to sign in to apps and websites with just a tap.
iOS 13 is faster and more responsive with optimizations across the system that improve app launch, reduce app download sizes, and make Face ID even faster.
Well, my phone doesn't have Face ID because I'm a little... I think it's a 7 or I don't even know what phone this is, but... But they didn't say anything about that, though.
tim pool
Maybe it's because you have an older phone.
adam crigler
Yeah, maybe I don't have the ability for them to trace me.
lydia smith
That would be good.
Yes, I would like that.
tim pool
Here's what they say over at ZDNet.
They say, Apple also included a new COVID exposure notification feature in iOS 13.5 on iPhone.
The feature is part of Apple and Google's previously announced partnership that enables a contact tracing API for health officials to build apps and use to fight the spread of COVID-19.
It provides an anonymous way to alert others you've come in contact with over the last 14 days should you contract COVID-19 and test positive, as well as a means for you to be alerted if someone you've been in contact with has tested positive.
We have a complete breakdown of how the feature works, blah blah blah.
The feature is found in Settings, Privacy, Health, COVID-19 Exposure Logging.
Until you install an approved app from a public health authority, the feature will remain turned off.
We're unaware of any apps that work with the API at the moment, but now that the update is out, we expect it to change.
Okay, that's a stupid question.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, New York Times.
It's a little biased for you to insert, I suppose.
No, but they're right, though.
Yeah, they're totally right.
Here's what we see in China.
In coronavirus fight, China gives citizens a color code with red flags.
A new system uses software to dictate quarantines and appears to send personal data to police
in a troubling precedent for automated social control.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, New York Times.
It's a little biased for you to insert, I suppose.
No, but they're right, though.
Yeah, they're totally right.
Well, hold on.
The New York Times said it.
What's the date on this?
March 1st.
On March 1st, the New York Times said, a troubling precedent for automated social control.
And now, a couple months later, Apple's rolling out its new feature, contact tracing, so you can track who you've touched.
lydia smith
Convenient.
tim pool
There's been conversations about us getting apps just like this with a color code.
The way it works in China, my understanding is, if you're in a city and you're cleared, you get a green QR.
When you want to enter a building, they scan your code to make sure you're cleared.
But if you leave the city or the specific area, it turns red.
It no longer works.
And then you've got to get retested or something.
Or quarantine again or some ridiculous thing.
So a lot of people are sharing this update and I think you don't have anything to worry about with the update.
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
I think you should be fine to update.
unidentified
The problem comes when- I'm not finding anything.
tim pool
Public buildings or something where the government says if you want to enter the post office, a school, you have to have our app.
And that means you got to update. So it's not the update.
It's the problem.
It's the what do they call it? What did the article say in the from a from an authority when
a public health authority, the feature will remain unless you install an approved app
from a public health authority. What does that mean?
Does that mean Apple and Google have decided to do this just on their own, hoping the government, you know, approves of some specific app that's going to allow them to track who you've touched and talked to?
adam crigler
Well, yesterday you said, if the school said, you can't have your kid go to the school without the vaccination, you'd be okay with it, right?
tim pool
Absolutely.
adam crigler
So it's almost in line with it.
The government's going to be like, if you want to use these government programs, you have to have this app.
And it's like, it's just going to make more programs that aren't run by the government appear.
tim pool
Unless they say, if you want to go to the DMV, you have to have the app.
adam crigler
See, that's where it's like forced.
Right.
So you need to be able to, if you drive, people are going to be riding bikes.
tim pool
Look at what Dershowitz said the other day.
That, you know, maybe what we'll do is we'll lock you in your home unless you want to get the vaccine.
lydia smith
Oh, what a good idea.
adam crigler
No, he didn't say lock you in, but you have the right to stay in your home unless you want to come out and then you need to be vaccinated, which is... And they can drag you to a doctor.
Basically the same thing.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
It's like, come on.
tim pool
So we're like China.
adam crigler
We're getting there.
tim pool
I wonder if this is all panic.
And I think it really is.
I think you've got, for the most part, Democratic governors, power hungry, but also scared.
They do not want to take the blame for this if things go bad.
Then you got the Republican governors who are like, eh, leave it open.
Notably Kristi Noem and Ron DeSantis, South Dakota and Florida.
And so you have these Democratic governors who want the power and they see the opportunity to seize the power, they take it.
adam crigler
And someone actually pointed out to me on Twitter earlier today that a lot of those Democratic governors aren't up for reelection this year.
tim pool
Really?
adam crigler
Yeah.
Like California, Michigan, where else?
New Jersey, New York.
tim pool
But their re-elections will come later.
adam crigler
Yeah, later, after it all blows over and maybe the people... They're hoping people forget.
Yep, exactly.
lydia smith
I don't think so.
adam crigler
But they don't have to worry about leaving right now.
They're like, whatever, we're going to lock it down because we can.
You know, we're going to change rules that have nothing to do with this because we can.
tim pool
Take the super chips.
adam crigler
Oh yeah.
Alright, you know what?
We're going to go to Super Chats.
Tim is getting an important phone call.
lydia smith
Tim is taking a call.
I'm going to jump into this.
Heck yeah.
You know what?
I kind of want to sit in Adam's chair.
adam crigler
Alright, AdamCast IRL coming to you live.
lydia smith
Perfect.
adam crigler
So, I mean, this Apple thing, honestly, I don't mind my phone not being updated because as long as my phone works, I don't care.
As long as I can still play the one game that I use my phone for, I'm fine with it.
lydia smith
I had a Samsung S3 for like eight years.
It's fantastic.
I never, I didn't need to upgrade it until I got here and I was like, I have to get a new phone.
I really have to.
It doesn't do the stuff I need it to do.
adam crigler
Yeah.
lydia smith
But yeah, if it works, it works.
adam crigler
Well, I mean, they, see, they're probably monitoring who's on his phone call right now because they can, you know, and that's a scary premise.
I really hope that doesn't happen though.
So we're gonna go to Super Chats.
lydia smith
Let's do it.
adam crigler
Because Tim's obviously busy right now.
So I'm gonna go to Super Chats.
What's up everybody?
So I gotta just say thanks everybody for showing up.
This might be the biggest show that we've ever had.
lydia smith
This is our biggest night.
adam crigler
Yeah, thank you.
You guys are awesome.
I really appreciate you guys all hanging out with us tonight.
lydia smith
On a Thursday too.
adam crigler
Yeah, this might be the biggest show.
So we'll just jump into Super Chats.
lydia smith
Yeah, let's go.
adam crigler
I didn't hear that they did that.
But didn't they do that with Star Wars?
censored Back to the Future 2. It's stupid but scary that we could lose
movies the way we remember them as to not offend. I didn't hear that they did
that but didn't didn't they do that with Star Wars? The first Star Wars? I don't
They tried to re-edit it.
Han Solo shot first.
You guys know what I'm talking about, right?
lydia smith
They tried to change it.
adam crigler
No, they did change it.
unidentified
Oh, they did?
adam crigler
Yeah, they did.
They changed it so the bounty hunter that was coming after Han Solo shot first.
He shot him, but in the original edit, Han Solo shot him in advance, and it was awesome.
It just made the movie so much more cool.
Like, it was cool in my head.
I don't know.
I really liked it.
lydia smith
Retrofitting history.
adam crigler
What did they change in Back to the Future 2?
What did they change about it?
I don't know.
lydia smith
I'll have to read about it.
adam crigler
That sucks, though.
Anyway, Josh in Jesus says, Tim... Well, he's not here, but I'll just say it.
Adam, think any chance of getting a constitutional president in 2024?
Also, did you get my email?
P.S.
Still think you should consider moving to Madison?
You know, I've actually been to Madison.
I'm also from Chicago.
I don't know if you knew that, but unfortunately, I don't know if I can answer these questions.
I really would love a constitutional president, someone that actually believes in our Constitution.
Although, it seems Trump pretty much does.
I don't know about, you know, the whole political realm.
I'm still getting my feet wet, you know, so Tim is definitely the expert on that sense.
Jack's ISF says, red states are reopening and the economy is rebounding.
Blue states are taking totalitarian measures beyond flattening the curve.
How can this be anything more than political maneuvering?
I 100% agree.
100% agree.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
You know, the red states are, and we just kind of talked about a little bit, the blue states, these governors aren't up for reelection.
They're just power hungry.
lydia smith
I didn't realize that.
adam crigler
They're going nuts.
It's just like, what are you guys doing?
They're kicking businesses out.
Well, not kicking.
They're losing businesses.
They're shooting themselves in the foot.
Tesla is probably going to be leaving to Texas.
I don't know if that's confirmed or not, but Elon Musk has basically made it seem like he's pretty much fed up with California.
We'll see what happens there.
Kyle Buchanan says, So Tim, you say you want to move.
Why does it have to be the East Coast?
Oklahoma just passed an alcohol delivery.
Well, actually, it's funny.
I got whiskey delivered like a month ago.
And it was, I got like four bottles of whiskey, really good stuff.
Random thought.
So we do have that here.
And he does want to be on the East Coast for the time.
You know, he gets up and there's a schedule that he has.
He does the news.
So I think that has something to do with it.
lydia smith
He was saying that something like 70% of the U.S.
is on East Coast time.
I think that's really what he was going for.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
Well, and it also makes sense that, you know, he's up and looking at the news and is ahead of everything, you know, so he's right off the bat, he knows what's going down and is making videos before the people on the West Coast.
Ryan Jones says, Hey Tim, with your business expanding, check out North Carolina.
Scanner has been to Asheville and the Research Triangle and Wilmington, a gem on the coast.
We like our liberty and we don't trust our politicians.
You know, I've been to North Carolina and I really like North Carolina.
It's a really pretty place.
I have good memories there.
Ultra Lesbian says, What's up gamers?
I'm assuming you're talking to me.
Although Tim has been a gamer in the past, he doesn't game as much as he used to because he is a workaholic and works harder than anyone I know.
All Metal Mike says, Whoa, I just got a major jump.
I have a feeling that's going to happen.
Because big show.
Yeah, let's see here.
Where we go.
All Metal Mike.
Will YouTube replace Tim Pool with Sim Pool?
Maybe.
Maybe.
If he starts blinking really oddly or his beanie's like in some sort of... if it's like a different color beanie, you know something's up.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
You know?
So pay attention to the beanie.
Johan Oldman says, here it is again, yet it stings like the first time.
All right.
I don't know what you're talking about, but... It's from a song.
lydia smith
I just can't place the song.
My bad.
adam crigler
Is it from your show?
unidentified
Possibly.
lydia smith
Oh, it is!
Oh my gosh, you're right, it's Alkaline Trio.
adam crigler
How did I know that?
I don't know any Alkaline Trio songs.
lydia smith
I'm sorry, I didn't catch it.
I was thinking it was Rise Against.
adam crigler
My goodness.
lydia smith
Because that's another of my favorite bands, but no.
My bad, no.
adam crigler
Favorite bands, you don't even know their song lyrics.
lydia smith
No, apparently not.
adam crigler
Shame on you.
lydia smith
Too funny.
adam crigler
Anyway, Cole Tilton says, do you guys like Philly soft pretzels?
Oh my goodness, yes.
I love them.
They're so good.
I actually grew up in Philadelphia.
Random little tidbit, I went to high school here in the north side of Philly, and I have really good memories here.
And so those Philly pretzels bring me back.
Wolfsbane says, I know this was from yesterday, but as a person that lives in Georgia, it has one of the most bipolar weather in the world, but hey, maybe I'm biased.
Yeah, I don't know much about Georgia.
I've driven through Georgia a lot in my life, but only that, just driving through.
Chet Chrisholm says, Trump taking hydrochloroquine when he doesn't have C-19 is effing stupid.
If it was on the advance of his doctor, then it's also malpractice.
You wouldn't give insulin to prevent diabetes or something else before a heart attack.
Except, I've read into this and what it does is it increases, I think it's the zinc?
It helps your body take zinc more?
I think it's zinc.
I might be wrong.
I'm not sure exactly.
Does that sound right?
lydia smith
Yeah, zinc helps your body fight infection and that's been known for a really long time.
adam crigler
Right, and I think that's what it is.
It is a preventative medicine, actually.
It's not the most crazy thing.
Insulin, you need to help balance your sugar levels, so that's a little different because the hydrochloroquine helps regulate your zinc levels and helps you fight infections more.
I don't blame him.
He's the president.
You know, he needs to he needs to have as much as he can.
I don't know.
We'll see.
All right.
Let's see.
Chris Mattel says, Hey, Tim, do you think the recent CNN comedy in quotes skits from the Cuomo's could be them priming him to replace Biden show he could take smears and such?
I haven't seen it.
lydia smith
Oh, my gosh.
I have seen this where they're messing with the giant Q-tip, the cotton Q-tip.
It's like a cotton swab.
adam crigler
Oh, I did see that.
Is it supposed to be some sort of comedy?
lydia smith
Yes, it's supposed to be some kind of like, I forget what Tim was calling it, but it was like some kind of sketch.
And then it was because Andrew Cuomo got the test on live TV and she shoved the She shoved the swab all the way back into his nose.
Isn't that what you're supposed to do?
It is exactly what you're supposed to do.
But they were making it like super funny and I'm like, why are you trying to humanize this guy who has like an 80% disapproval rating who's overseen the death of thousands of people in New York City?
I can't stand that guy.
Cuomo.
adam crigler
Both of them.
I can't stand either one of them.
At first I was like, all right, you know, okay, he seems to not not the news anchor.
Yeah, governor, right?
Yeah, I was like, all right, this guy's seems to be telling like it is, you know, and then of course, I find they're like shoving people in old people's homes.
I don't know actually if this is for certain, but it seems to be that people are there's like a hashtag killer Cuomo going around.
I don't know.
lydia smith
Yeah, he's responsible for a lot.
adam crigler
Yeah, well.
lydia smith
I hope they're not gearing him up to take Biden's place.
adam crigler
I hope not.
I don't know.
I have no idea what the DNC is going to do.
Crip Crack Attack says, Joe and Alex have been friends since the 90s.
Yeah, I guess 22 years they've been friends.
That's crazy.
Lior Engelstein says, I think you should look up Texas and Las Vegas.
Texas looks like the next hotbed for your industry.
Las Vegas has no real natural disasters and not hard convincing people to come into the studio.
That's a good point.
Yeah, he's pretty set on moving.
I don't know where he's gonna decide.
I don't know where we'll end up.
Jesus says, here is my weekly due to the Beanie Union.
I like that.
The Beanie Union.
It's got a good vibe.
Glad to be out of quarantine after a week and cutting grass once again.
You folks should revisit the Batgirl controversy.
Makes for a great... Listen, we were gonna talk about it.
I guess we didn't get to it.
What was it?
We were gonna get to it yesterday.
lydia smith
We tried to get to it yesterday.
We ended up talking about the Snyder Cut instead.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's right.
lydia smith
So that was the last clip from yesterday.
adam crigler
Oh, right, right.
lydia smith
Yeah, maybe we should talk about that at some point.
adam crigler
I guess.
I don't know.
lydia smith
I mean, I didn't watch it.
adam crigler
It feels silly.
Like, it's just another go get woke, go broke.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
Like, okay, and?
lydia smith
Yeah, I don't know.
adam crigler
Like, have you not learned that yet?
Come on.
Yeah, come on.
Infinality says, if both Tim and Alex Jones were on Joe Rogan, does that make Tim Alex Jones adjacent?
Sure why not.
lydia smith
Sure why not.
adam crigler
Sneaky Soviet says, there is some drive-in theaters opening near me tomorrow, one of which has been closed for seven years.
It's pretty awesome.
I have seen that, that they're opening again.
That's really cool.
I remember when I was younger, I went to a couple of drive-ins when I was like nine.
This is like 20 something years ago.
Yeah, 25 years?
I don't know.
lydia smith
That's awesome.
adam crigler
Math.
Ziesel the Fallen says, do you think you'd ever start having guests on this podcast?
Yes, actually, we did just move up here, but we wanted to have guests.
We were prepping to have guests, and then a little something called coronavirus 19 hit us.
So now we've been locked in.
Timothy E says, Kansas is one true way.
Every other state sucks.
Just move here, Tim.
The only state that still has some freedoms have crap weather because SJWs are too soft to live in them.
Suck it up, man.
That's a good argument.
You got good points there.
lydia smith
Can't argue with that.
adam crigler
Yep.
Brian Boinko says 5.0.
All right.
Cool.
We'll take it.
Truels Emil Johansson says... Johanna Nesson?
I think I said that right.
Spotify did purge InfoWars back in 2018 though.
What is the difference from YouTube?
I don't know.
You want to check that out?
lydia smith
Yeah, I didn't know they purged... I think Alex Jones was purged from every single platform.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
That's part of the Alex Jones thing?
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
Oh, okay, okay.
lydia smith
Infowars is Alex Jones.
adam crigler
Right.
But, I mean, it seems that Joe has, like, a legitimate contract, you know?
So he's probably... I mean, he's not going to go anywhere else unless it's a guarantee he can do whatever he wants on the show.
It's Joe Rogan.
So we'll see.
But you do make a good point.
Kyle Miller says, these states need to open up soon or expect less tax revenue from businesses.
Can't get much tax revenue from businesses that have been closed for 2020.
That's a great point.
lydia smith
That's very true.
adam crigler
Like, hey states, you're losing money.
Tomorrow, everything's going to be opening up.
They're like, oh, that's a good point.
We're going to lose money.
We should open up now.
Yeah, we should shout that more loudly.
That's a good point.
Get back in your coffin says Tim.
I don't want to smash the like button.
I want to smash Adam.
Oh well But on that note smash that like button You can't technically smash me because I'm on the other side of the screen unfortunately for you Drunk Shovel says, give me liberty or give me death.
Those words should be on the lips of every American.
End the grip on our liberties.
Don't tread on me.
100% agree.
It's crazy what they're trying to do here.
Or rather, what they are doing.
lydia smith
They are successfully doing.
adam crigler
Clink Clank Boom of Flavors says, why not move to South Carolina?
Still East Coast.
Yep, the Carolinas are there.
Carlos Cruz says, hello fellow Beanie Floor Bows.
What do you think about the Eastern religions?
Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism come to mind.
Thoughts on Alan Watts and McKenna?
Alan Watts is an amazing person.
I don't really know McKenna's work, but then of course You know, there is something about Buddhism I really liked that sticks with my head.
I'm not sure who exactly said it, but it was said that there's 7 billion people on this planet, so there should be 7 billion religions.
And I love that because we are all different.
You know, we're so unique in our own, you know, upbringings, environments, class, everything.
We're so different, all of us, that, you know, no one thing can make sense for everybody.
So everyone needs to find their own path.
And I love that about Buddhism.
And that's always something that stuck with me.
I don't know about the rest though.
Mark Robert Shaw says who was it that said reality is stranger than fiction because since 2016 this world has been wild and honestly I love it freedom.
You know who also has been talking about that Ian Crosland.
I don't know who joined me on Adamcast IRL when Tim and Lydia were gone But Ian joined me and he has been saying that we've been we've been chatting.
He's like man something happened Well, he said it earlier 2012.
Yeah, the world world actually ended and we split off on our timeline and now we're in some weird Alternate reality.
Alternate something going on, yeah.
So it definitely feels crazy.
Quiet Guitarist Fan says, I respect you three, but your interpretation of BVS was just wrong.
What is BVS?
lydia smith
I'm not sure.
adam crigler
What are we doing here?
lydia smith
Let me look it up.
adam crigler
Sorry, I'm not sure exactly what you're talking about.
Oh, wait, wait.
Batman vs. Superman.
It was a redemption arc for Batman and a purpose arc for Superman.
Batman stopped when he heard the name because he realized he had become who he hated and he had become cruel from losing so much.
You do make a good point, okay.
lydia smith
That is compelling.
adam crigler
Yeah, so maybe he, like Tim said, he could have just stopped attacking Superman and thrown the spear aside and said, you know, just so you know, you've been beat.
But he didn't really think that maybe Batman had, like, red in his eyes, like he saw red.
Maybe he really was trying to kill Superman and was gonna kill him.
and and you that's a good point when he it kinda like brought him back to his
human side like whoa i'm about to kill this this person who has a mother just
like me to great point
uh... went in gets back on well i'll have conversation i'm sure about
eventually pickle old pillar of world says come to the free state in
the union new hampshire We have only one freedom festival, Porkfest.
Well, I probably won't attend Porkfest, but I'm glad you guys are living free out there.
And you're not the first person to suggest New Hampshire.
Yeah.
Jacob Talbot, thank you for the super chat.
Glenn Manuel says, Canada, a man was fined for drinking coffee alone in a car at a Tim Horton parking lot.
Cop told him to leave.
He started to leave and then the cop stopped him from leaving, ticketing him all on tape.
I heard about this and it's ridiculous.
What is going on in the world?
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
adam crigler
Chuck Morris says, turned off my phone.
GTFO while you can.
Gold818 says, speaking of other platforms, why don't you guys use Restreams.io to rebroadcast your stream on multiple platforms?
For example, DLive, BitChute, Twitch, Facebook Live, also the OBS plugin combines chat.
lydia smith
I'll have to look at that.
adam crigler
Yeah, I mean, I'm not interested in Twitch.
I was gonna start streaming games.
A lot of people do ask me to stream games, and I am a heavy gamer, and I am actually gonna start streaming soon.
But yeah, this Twitch fiasco with their... It feels like they're doing the same thing that YouTube's doing, just trying to, you know, be, I don't know, on top of stuff that doesn't even exist.
It's crazy.
Tharpen It Up says, move to East Tennessee.
We're very media oriented in a red state with preppers, East Coast, and most of us are musicians.
Must be the water.
I love to jam.
Sounds good.
You know, I've actually been to Tennessee and that's a great place.
And I stopped by a few places that had some amazing vegan food randomly, but yeah, seems like a good spot.
Graboid Biden, funny name, says, is there any worse than realizing you walk through a spiderweb and then you feel something walking on your neck?
Just happened.
lydia smith
Oh no, I'm sorry.
adam crigler
I can think of something actually worse.
I was walking from my tent to the bathroom and I was camping out in this place called, it was a Permajam festival a couple, I think it was two years ago.
And there was a low hanging branch and I brushed past it.
And I went to the bathroom and went back and I was laying there and I felt something on my neck and when I looked it was a tick and it had bitten me!
I don't like things sucking my blood.
lydia smith
That is worse than a spider.
adam crigler
If you're an insect, then... I'm vegan.
unidentified
I will still kill... I will kill you so fast.
adam crigler
And they don't go down easy, man.
Those tics, you gotta, like, really smash.
I hate tics.
Tics are... They're gross.
Yeah.
Gross.
Bobcat says, life is like beer.
For best results, chill.
lydia smith
Love it.
adam crigler
That's great, Bobcat.
Wonderful.
Thank you.
Caboose aka Kyle says, thanks y'all for getting me through the last two hours of my shift at UPS every night.
Oh, that's great.
Love that.
I actually used to work at UPS.
lydia smith
Oh, nice.
adam crigler
Yep.
Here in Philadelphia.
Funny enough.
Very cool.
Richard Winter says, just wanted to say hello from Sioux Falls.
Hello.
Matt Custer says, it's all, it's your favorite spoiled, wait, I'm sorry.
It's your favorite spoiled orphan millennial.
Okay.
Lockdown caused me to give up my heroin sobriety.
Oh well.
lydia smith
Oh no.
adam crigler
I'm sorry to hear that.
I actually know some people that have passed away from that, so be careful.
Oh gosh, yeah.
Big Al says, Cuomo stole the giant q-tip bit from the Simpsons, Krusty the Clown, when he was on Tuesday Night Live.
What a surprise.
lydia smith
Not even original.
adam crigler
Mr. Rich Lopich says, leftist.
Listen to the experts.
Non-leftists point to doctors who want to reopen.
What about those experts?
YouTube deletes the videos.
What experts?
Insert evil laugh here.
Yeah, that seems to be the case.
Uh, Chet Chrisholm.
Hey, what's good?
Adam's sending you info on Hydrochloroquine tonight.
Look up Alex Jones' Gay Frogs remix.
Also, I propose Tim Harumphing alter ego be officially named Baron Von Beanie.
Not bad.
Not bad.
Cool.
I'm looking forward to reading that stuff.
And thanks for sending me the stuff that you have sent me so far.
Chaotic says, Hey Timcast, I've been considering trying We Are Change University to get an understanding on how to do work as a journalist.
Have you heard of it?
And if so, would you recommend it?
Take this 20 and keep up the good work.
Well, thank you, Chaotic.
I appreciate that.
I unfortunately don't know what it is.
Maybe Tim does.
Have you heard of it?
You know, We Are Change?
You know, but anything to further your mind mentally is always a good thing.
lydia smith
That's Luke's production.
adam crigler
Oh, We Are Change.
lydia smith
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's Luke.
adam crigler
University.
So is he doing like a class or something?
lydia smith
I'm not sure.
adam crigler
Yeah, We Are Change.
lydia smith
That is Luke's.
adam crigler
I met Luke a few times.
unidentified
He's cool.
adam crigler
He's a nice guy.
Let's see.
Jeff McCorbin says, Tim, 1v1 me in Smash Brothers.
I can send Adam my friend code and everything.
We can even make it interesting.
If you win, I will donate $50 to your channel.
To some that may not be a lot, but to me it is.
Oh, that absolutely is a lot, and I would love to watch that, because Tim is incredible at Smash Brothers.
Yes.
QuietGuitarsFan again says Snyder painted a whole picture in Batman vs. Superman Ultimate Edition of Batman's rage, cruelty, and bitterness.
He saw how weak he was compared to Superman and felt powerless.
As Alfred said, a good man turned cruel.
Yeah, you know, that scene bugged me so much when I first watched that movie.
And what you pointed out really makes me want to re-watch it with a different mentality.
Because that does make a lot of sense.
That he lost himself.
He became cruel.
Like a good man turned cruel, yeah.
That's really, really great.
Mr. Rich Lopich again says, don't mean to crowd other chats, but I'm trying to get into voiceover work and was wondering what microphone and sound installation you recommend.
Now that I have no idea, but I do know these Shure microphones.
What is this?
It is the Shure SM7B is like the go-to for podcasts.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
This is the same thing Joe Rogan uses.
lydia smith
Yep, they're great.
adam crigler
So these are like the thing to get.
I mean, if you want to do something really good that professionals use, obviously we're professionals here.
lydia smith
Of course.
adam crigler
The Shure SM7B mic is really good.
It's a good mic.
David Sedino says Amazon Liverpool New York 350 million for warehouse 1k jobs Okay, I guess they're hiring or I'm not sure what that means.
Okay drunk shovel again says organize militias and charities Take care of your countrymen.
The government won't save us.
We need to be strong and help ourselves Care for your friends and neighbors.
We're a family America All right.
I appreciate that Yeah.
Architects of Fate.
Since you are doing remote guests now, will you have not-so-obvious on?
He is trying to do a documentary by himself on the grooming gangs in the UK.
Last video was about a survivor attacked on May 19th, 2020, just two days ago.
You know, we aren't doing remote guests.
We want to have guests on the show and we... I don't know.
I know Tim is not down for remote guests.
It's, you know, it's not as easy as it may seem.
I know Tim did a guest spot on... who did he go on?
lydia smith
Was it on Shapiro's show?
He goes on sometimes for The Blaze.
He'll go on for Glenn Beck's show.
adam crigler
Wasn't he on Shapiro's show?
lydia smith
I don't recall.
adam crigler
Like two weeks ago?
No, like a month ago or something.
lydia smith
If he was on Shapiro, I did not notice.
adam crigler
Yeah, but they did it the day before because doing it live is much different.
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
Yeah, because we're live right now.
He just got a phone call from obviously an important person.
lydia smith
Someone very important.
adam crigler
I'm not saying who it was.
lydia smith
But they were very important.
adam crigler
But I have a feeling most of you know who it was.
lydia smith
Ooh, it's a mystery.
We'll see what Tim has to say when he comes back.
adam crigler
We'll see when he returns, yeah.
I don't want to miss anyone.
Mark Robertshaw says, I believe that most UFOs are drones or unmanned craft being human or alien origin because of the g-forces in their movements would kill organic life.
What, you know, it's hard to believe that, you know, if they're here, man, the whole alien thing.
I would love to have a chat about it.
Speaking of, can I get the wide shot?
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
Hold on one second.
adam crigler
I've just noticed our UFO is not spinning.
lydia smith
We gotta spin the UFO!
adam crigler
You wanna come over here?
lydia smith
Yeah, you know what, let me move.
adam crigler
Why don't you come over here?
Yeah, let's do that.
And, I know you guys want me to spin the UFO, so I'm gonna spin this UFO.
It just feels wrong!
I gotta spin it!
Alright, now we have me and Lydia.
This is our show now.
lydia smith
Take it over.
adam crigler
So, Moe Gravy.
Hey Tim, spent my 80 days off work reporting videos on YouTube, the ones promoting narrative over facts.
I'm a photo video pro, no gigs, no money.
80 days.
lydia smith
That's a long time.
adam crigler
It's been, oh, we're over here now.
80 days.
It's crazy, it's been 80 days.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, I can't believe it.
And yeah, that really sucks that you have no gigs.
I hope, you know, the economy picks up again so you can start working again.
Zeryl Gardner says, if the Joe Rogan move works, Spotify will be a new alternative to YouTube.
Yeah, and that's why I think YouTube is stressing out because it's a serious viable option and they just got YouTube's biggest podcast.
Not only YouTube's, the biggest podcast in the world.
It's Joe Rogan's.
lydia smith
Yeah, I hope they're paying attention.
adam crigler
Oh, they are.
They're definitely paying attention.
Yeah, yeah.
All right, so, uh, Black Belt of Confession, uh, Constitution.
Never heard of that.
Hey, Tim, what are your thoughts on, uh, from Parasite to Hell trapped at a music festival because of COVID-19?
Oh, I actually did, uh, see this.
Do you hear about this?
There was a festival that was going on in South Pacific somewhere.
I don't know where it was.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
adam crigler
But then all the flights got canceled.
Then all of a sudden, they didn't even hear about COVID.
They were just, like, partying, whatever, at this festival.
And then all of a sudden, They were like, oh, we can't leave.
Like, why?
Like, oh, well, COVID-19, duh.
And then it's like, oh, what is that?
Yeah, Tim and I were talking about that on the drive.
And then they're stuck there.
lydia smith
Yeah, they were stuck for like weeks.
adam crigler
Yeah, that sucks.
Awful.
That doesn't sound fun.
All right, let's see.
Kaldroneer says, please disavow lit solar ads.
They're using stolen American solar SIGs tech.
I've worked as an engineer at solar manufacturers.
China is abusing us.
I don't know anything about it.
But there's a little bit for you to hear right there.
Joey Tally says, have you all thought about doing a similar pay method to the one of your
main content for the whole crew so I don't have to give YouTube money?
That's a good point.
Maybe we should set up our own.
lydia smith
Yeah, we need to kind of iron that out.
adam crigler
People can drop us some coins.
lydia smith
Yeah, that'd be nice.
adam crigler
James Wallace says, the madman is back.
He is bat-esque crazy, but he has been right more than a broken clock.
I know, that is pretty crazy.
I don't watch Alex Jones.
But I do hear a lot of people talking about him because, you know, but it's the, I know the broken, you say the broken clock, you know, the broken clock is right twice a day, but he has been right on a few things.
I don't have anything that comes to mind, but.
lydia smith
He's just very kind of flamboyant, not flamboyant.
That's not the right word.
Um, I forget what word Tim uses, but it's just like very outspoken and hyperbolic.
adam crigler
Yeah.
lydia smith
So when he says something's true, it's, it's buried under a mountain of other stuff.
adam crigler
Well, he said he was gonna eat his neighbors.
lydia smith
Uh, yeah, I hope that part's not true.
adam crigler
I don't think it's gonna come to that, but, uh, I don't know.
Let's not.
I think he was just saying it to stay relevant.
Not necessarily relevant, but get a little boost.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
Because that was everywhere.
Come on, everyone knew that.
lydia smith
A little cabin fever.
adam crigler
All right, let's see.
Amansol, excuse me, China is putting cameras inside people's houses.
How long before that happens here?
Hmm, I wonder.
There's no way that's gonna happen here.
I mean, there's no way.
lydia smith
I didn't think we would be where we are now.
adam crigler
No, no, no, no.
lydia smith
I don't know.
adam crigler
That's not gonna happen.
That's crazy.
Capitalism, Entertainment, and Technology says, Logan Paul had Alex on and I saw the episode.
It was fun.
lydia smith
Right.
adam crigler
Right on.
You can check it out.
Outlaw Bear says, watch Alex Jones's Endgame documentary and see how he called everything happening because of COVID-19 back in 2007.
That's 13 years ago.
All right.
STFU says, per Alex Jones, your description of spreading out the outrage to diminish the impact is literally equivalent concept to flattening the curve.
All right, I can see it.
Kyle Miller says, instead of calling CIA leaker Voldemort, call him what Terry A. Davis calls the CIA so that he glows in the dark.
All right.
Voldemort's pretty cool, though.
I like it.
Wolf Lincoln, thanks for becoming a member.
Appreciate that.
Mark Robertshaw says, the internet is a modern battleground for civil rights and ideology.
Time will tell if it moves in real life.
The case global backlash against authority is yuck.
Yeah.
Alter the Dark, sorry, Atler the Dark says, don't forget Spotify was one of those companies that banned Alex Jones.
Yeah, that's right.
Someone else did say that.
Yeah, I guess it was like a universal thing that Alex Jones just got banned from the internet.
I don't really know.
I wasn't really paying attention two years ago.
It was kind of...
Yeah, not in the political realm.
I don't say, not don't, because I'm immersed in it now.
I can't get away from it.
unidentified
I don't have a choice.
adam crigler
Yeah, I have no choice.
Sorry.
No, that's okay.
Honestly, I like being informed.
I have zero regrets.
Good.
And that's something I've always lived with, just no regrets.
Because if you get, that means you're wallowing instead of learning.
from your decisions and it's like having a regret you can learn you can have it but don't let it control you so good
policy yeah but uh yeah i guess i mean it seems like rogan's got a legitimate deal with spotify he's not going to go
there unless it's it's official yeah um mr fix it mr fix it there we go i appreciate your common sense approach to
bringing us facts no matter if they match your political leanings it's
It's far and few between these days.
I appreciate that.
Chuck Morris says the Constitution is still in effect.
Time to stop and open up the country.
Come on!
Michelle Maibel says, my home state of California is still on lockdown but didn't seem to stop Pelosi from shooting Botox into her battleaxe mug.
Have a great day.
She is a scary looking woman.
lydia smith
That was considered essential because if she didn't have that Botox...
adam crigler
I can't believe it.
It was crazy.
She looked like a normal human, you know?
And then suddenly it was like, she looked really uncomfortable, actually.
lydia smith
Oh, Tim's returned.
adam crigler
Tim has returned.
So I'm going to give it up for Tim.
unidentified
We're all going to move and play musical chairs here.
I had to take that call.
adam crigler
How's the super chair?
tim pool
It's hot in here.
What is it, like 80 degrees?
adam crigler
It is hot in here.
I just got off the phone with, uh... Well, someone said they wanted to smash me and I got all nervous and... No, I'm just kidding.
tim pool
I just got off the phone with Joe.
adam crigler
You just got off the phone with Joe Rogan?
tim pool
Joe Rogan.
So I saw this story... You heard it here.
adam crigler
So he was talking to Joe Rogan.
tim pool
And I got some crazy stuff.
adam crigler
Oh.
Are we allowed to talk about it?
tim pool
Yes.
unidentified
Yes!
tim pool
It's a long conversation.
adam crigler
Alright.
tim pool
A lot of, you know, just like BS.
We were like complaining about censorship stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
And that's what it's all about, I'm sure, right?
tim pool
Well, no, no, I mean, so Joe said he got a really awesome deal.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So he took it.
adam crigler
Obviously.
Yeah, that's what I was just saying.
tim pool
He is upset with censorship.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Alex made a bunch of, like, he embellished to an extreme degree, I'll put it that way.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
I'm not surprised.
tim pool
And Alex actually took it all down.
adam crigler
Oh, really?
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
Wow.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
So he actually took the stuff down.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
But I can say some stuff.
So, Joe's not going to war.
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
That was not true.
The gloves aren't off.
adam crigler
That was Alex Jones.
tim pool
Alex was just saying all the stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And Joe was like, he's like, man, it's just a great deal.
And, you know, I'm going to take it.
And he did tell me something really interesting.
And I was like, I had to clarify this on the record.
Like, is this legit?
He's like, definitely.
adam crigler
Oh, nice.
You guys ready for this?
I am so ready.
lydia smith
I'm excited.
tim pool
When Alex Jones appeared on the Joe Rogan podcast last time, they got 17 million views.
Joe contacted YouTube to warn them.
They said, OK, and then monetized it.
That's it.
adam crigler
It wasn't monetized?
tim pool
Alex Jones had been banned from the platform.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
He had been purged.
adam crigler
Oh, this was after he was purged?
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure.
And so, in the midst of all of these demonetizations happening all over the place, he was like, we hit him up and said, hey, just so you know, Alex is on the podcast.
And then they had forewarning, monetized it.
That raised a lot of questions.
Why was Alex Jones removed?
But when they got a heads up he was gonna be on Joe's show to like huge press, did they say run ads on it?
They wanted to make that money.
unidentified
They did.
tim pool
And they didn't care it was Alex Jones.
adam crigler
They didn't care.
tim pool
And I was, Joe, he mentioned, we were talking about it and I said, you know, is the stuff about doctors true?
Did you say, did YouTube ever tell you?
No, no, no, no, no, no, it's not the case.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Joe basically said, I have on who I want to have on.
It's nothing like that.
But he does think, he told me, we got to have some kind of protections the way we do free speech for the internet.
It doesn't make sense that you're on YouTube or whatever, and they can just remove you, end you, or iTunes or whatever.
adam crigler
Yep, just delete you away.
tim pool
We talked about a lot of stuff.
I want to make sure I don't get into like, you know, because we didn't talk about literally just nothing but the stuff.
adam crigler
Right, right, right.
tim pool
He basically mentioned the gist of the conversation.
When you go to Spotify, when you do a deal like this, you've got someone who asks you like, how can we help you succeed?
When you're on YouTube, you're asking YouTube, please don't hurt me.
Those are my words.
adam crigler
Right, no, I get it.
tim pool
That's how it is.
So, there it is.
It makes sense.
You know what I mean?
adam crigler
It's true.
tim pool
Alex took it down.
But I don't know exactly what Joe's contact or anything like that is.
Who he's going to have on.
But I guess Joe's like, I'm going to have on interesting people and I'm not going to have to worry about it.
adam crigler
Is he going to have Alex on?
tim pool
I believe so.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
But I don't think it's like the way Alex framed it.
I'm gonna be his first guest and you know.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
But uh...
I mean, that's about it.
The interesting thing, I think, is that the monetization of Alex Jones, I think, has huge connotations.
Like, that's serious.
That YouTube was simultaneously telling people, like, we're doing these things for these reasons, then behind the scenes being like, yeah, yeah, come on, let's get some ad money.
adam crigler
Yeah, we'll give that money.
17 mil.
tim pool
You want to know what I think?
adam crigler
Of course.
tim pool
Alex Jones was making mad cash on YouTube.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
YouTube wanted that money.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
The only reason they got rid of them was because the media was going after them that means the advertisers would pull
out and they Would lose more money so here they found their sweet. You
know double dip yeah, oh, it's not us Get mad at Joe Rogan. He had him on yeah
adam crigler
Run hands on it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
They got to run the ads on it.
They got to deflect blame.
Hey, we banned them.
You know, we can't control, you know, the biggest podcast in the world on iTunes.
And so I think competition is going to be our saving grace.
adam crigler
Yeah, that makes sense.
tim pool
You know, learning the stuff that Joe never said, this stuff does change a lot of my initial reaction we had earlier in the show.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
That, you know, it's going to... But I think it still stands.
Joe's concerned about censorship.
He thinks it's insane that doctors are being banned, stuff like that, but it's not his motivation or whatever.
He's just doing his thing.
But it is true, in my opinion, because I don't think he thinks too much about this stuff, that if he starts having on more controversial guests, I'm going to sneeze.
And YouTube will be put under pressure.
If you ban this, then you're giving away your audience.
Exactly.
But there's another thing to consider, too, that with Joe doing a deal as big as he did, it opens the door for other creators.
It expands the industry.
Spotify's stock is skyrocketing.
adam crigler
That's not surprising.
tim pool
And so how much money are they going to make just in market value from their stock?
adam crigler
I'm sure Joe Rogan's saying, I'm going to Spotify.
Boom.
Their stock skyrocketed.
tim pool
So now they're like, OK, because of that, now we got all this market, you know, market capital or whatever.
What's that going to lead to?
I hope.
So I just found this out, actually.
My show is one of the like, it's on the front page, I guess.
If you go to Spotify and scroll down, it's like number 30 something on Spotify.
Yeah, even though it gets, like, no views.
Oh, cool.
adam crigler
But your show's on Spotify now, already.
tim pool
Oh, it's been on Spotify for a long time.
adam crigler
Oh, right on, right on.
Oh, your main podcast.
tim pool
IRL's on Spotify, right?
lydia smith
Yeah, I think so.
tim pool
I mean, I hope so.
lydia smith
It's not on all of them, but yeah.
tim pool
I'm excited for this, you know why?
If Spotify is trying to get in the market, that means they're gonna do what they have to do to make sure creators are happy.
YouTube owns the market, so they're doing what they can to make sure they stay on the top.
adam crigler
Well, there's a few superchats that people have pointed out to us.
Spotify also banned Alex Jones back in 2018.
lydia smith
Yeah, they were one of the ones.
adam crigler
So, how do we know that Spotify isn't gonna... Now they're getting all this money, and now, like, how do we know that they're not just gonna suddenly be like, you know what?
Maybe we should start censoring and doing the same thing YouTube's doing.
tim pool
Yep, it's possible.
adam crigler
Yeah, it is.
tim pool
But it's competition that I think will help.
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
It's not only YouTube anymore.
We actually have a viable option outside of YouTube.
tim pool
And Alex is... So you better be sweating, YouTube!
adam crigler
I mean, look... No, they are.
I didn't know they are.
tim pool
Alex took the video down.
I remember, actually, when I saw that article, I said I couldn't find it.
Right.
Alex had removed it.
adam crigler
Oh, that's why.
tim pool
Yeah.
And so good on him for doing the right, you know, taking it down because he went off the rails on it.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But seems like he's substantially more controversial.
And one of the problems with Jones now is that he's actually digging himself deeper, doing these things like where he said he was going to eat his neighbors and stuff.
adam crigler
Well, no, I mean, we just talked about it's like I think he was just saying that because, I mean, sure, he's he's a vibrant person, but at the same time, it's like You're not going to eat your neighbors, man.
tim pool
Of course.
adam crigler
You know, he's saying it because he knows people are going to spread it around.
tim pool
Exactly.
adam crigler
It did exactly that.
Alex Jones was trending probably on Twitter.
I mean, I'm not exactly sure, but yeah, he's putting himself out there.
But it's digging... Same with what he just said, you know, with Joe Rogan.
tim pool
It's digging his hole deeper.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
Because now... His conspiracy hole, you mean?
Well, no, I mean, like, he gets banned from all these platforms.
Because he's lying no no just because he says controversial bombastic things so then in order to get more attention
He gets even more controversial is that the word?
So there was a period after he started getting banned where he started toning the rhetoric down because he used to say
things like You know he almost said he was he was gonna kill somebody,
but he's like I will And then he stopped himself yeah, because he gets really
into that you know when he gets really excited and energetic
And he's like oh, I can't that's like that's really bad I can't say that hmm
but they definitely got him banned by taking a lot of things out of context and like taking his innuendo and
Metaphors take literally yeah, but it was more controversial
I think he got banned just from a PR campaign.
But anyway, long story short, YouTube... I don't think they wanted to ban him.
adam crigler
No?
tim pool
No.
He was making a lot of money.
adam crigler
Which was making them a lot of money.
tim pool
Yeah, they were getting a huge chunk from all of the views from his audience.
And the only reason they reacted was because when the advertisers said, we're pulling out, they probably had a meeting.
It's like a fight club, where he's like, if the cost of a recall is more than the cost of paying people out, we don't pay it.
They probably had a meeting and they were like, okay, how much do we make off Jones per month?
And it was probably in the millions, some ridiculous number.
And then they're like, and how much are we going to lose from the advertisers?
Two million.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Ban them.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
It's like, that sucks.
And then when they find out he's going to go on Rogan, they're like, Ooh, we'll catch it.
We'll cap.
We'll catch some of this.
It's going to be big.
And then it's 17 million views.
I don't even know how much money that is.
It's probably hundreds of thousands of dollars.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Hundreds of thousands of dollars.
adam crigler
That's a lot of views.
tim pool
Yeah.
So, uh, I'm excited.
I think, I think the Spotify deal is going to be good things.
adam crigler
I think so too.
It's great for us.
tim pool
Yeah.
We'll see what happens.
Should we go back to super chat?
adam crigler
So I'm like halfway through.
You know, I actually, I want to point out, man, I can't, I forget who actually super chatted this, but we were talking about Batman versus Superman.
And it was a really interesting point.
So yesterday we were talking about it, right?
So the point where he takes the spear and he's about to stab Superman.
Someone suggested that what he was doing was realizing that he had become the bad guy himself.
That he actually wanted to kill Superman.
Not that he was just trying to prove something to him.
And when he said Martha's name, it kind of reminded him that he's human.
That he has gone off the rails.
So it kind of made a little more sense.
You know what I mean?
tim pool
And there's a, uh, they show, I think it's, um, I think it's Jason Todd's, uh, Robin uniform.
And it says, ha, ha, ha, the Joker, because the Joker killed.
I think, I think that's what it was.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
And so apparently there was supposed to be some, like, I don't know if there was supposed to be, or there should have been what people, people have said explaining what made Batman turn so dark, where he would actually consider killing somebody because the Joker killed Robin.
adam crigler
In that universe?
tim pool
In the movie.
In the movie you see him walk up and look at the uniform of Robin with the Joker's graffiti on it.
So to fans, they saw that and they knew.
It's a future where... And so it made him go, but the audience didn't get that.
And so they really had an opportunity to do that moment where he throws the spear and says, you're not invincible.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But you know, I get it.
I get it.
adam crigler
I thought it was a cool premise.
tim pool
Yeah, it is.
adam crigler
I gotta watch that again.
tim pool
Where did you guys leave off?
Were you having fun?
lydia smith
We were having fun.
Yeah, I got to be on camera.
It was very exciting.
adam crigler
The Botox.
Yeah, yeah, that's... James Wallace is the next one.
Alright.
tim pool
James Wallace says, Spotify is going for the crown.
They are.
They are.
We're gonna have this period between September and until whenever it is that Joe, you know, does the full flip over.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Where the competition will be heavy.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, dude, this is going to be awesome, man.
adam crigler
I know.
I agree.
tim pool
Because think about it this way.
Even next year, I'm going to put up a video, and YouTube's going to be like, hey, you can't say that name.
And I'll be like, oh, all right, let me call Spotify real quick.
And they'll be like, no, no, no, no, no, no, stop.
adam crigler
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
All right, all right, you can say it now, I guess.
And you know, actually, it's interesting.
You pointed out, because everyone's home right now in quarantine, and everyone's watching us, But I've also noticed everybody's doing podcasts.
tim pool
I know.
adam crigler
All these celebrities are doing their own podcasts now.
They're not going to have the time to do these podcasts.
We're going to stay here.
We're doing the show.
So we're going to be around.
So I think it's about the same.
I don't know.
I just thought about that.
People are going to stop doing podcasts and go back to work and do their normal, whatever they're doing normally.
tim pool
I've already seen, as the lockdowns start to ease, So when the lockdown started, my podcast numbers went down.
And that's podcast, not YouTube.
YouTube numbers went up and then down and then up because it really just, it's like the news, right?
adam crigler
Because they were fiddling with the algorithm, I think.
tim pool
But podcast numbers went down by like 30% and I was like, whoa, you know why?
People weren't driving in their cars anymore.
They're in their car, they press play, they drive.
adam crigler
Listening to it as they drive.
tim pool
Things have started spiking again.
Everything.
Revenue is coming back.
He's coming back.
Everything's coming back.
It's getting good.
But yeah, Ricky Gervais has been doing livestreams.
So it's like you got everybody doing livestreams and shows and podcasts and that's gonna go away when this lifts.
adam crigler
He's a funny guy.
tim pool
He is, he's awesome.
But we'll see.
We'll see when it lifts.
I think you can see it in the metrics going away now.
I can see everything starting to improve.
adam crigler
I can't wait to go bowling!
tim pool
I can't wait to go see a movie or something and just chill.
lydia smith
Go to a restaurant.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
Wolfenkin says, I heard that Spotify are in bed with the ADL and the SPLC.
So is YouTube.
I wouldn't be surprised.
But I think the competition will best all of that.
What you got to understand about YouTube censorship is that where can anyone go?
Nowhere.
So these organizations go to YouTube and say, ban this person, their hate speech.
YouTube has no excuse when the stories come out and saying they wouldn't do it.
What's going to happen now is, like I said, that cost-benefit analysis, that cost-risk analysis, YouTube's going to be sitting there and have a meeting.
Okay, we want to ban Alex Jones.
How much money do we make?
We make, you know, a million bucks a month.
Okay, how much do we lose in advertising if he goes away?
We're going to lose two million.
And then what happens?
And then a bunch of other creators are going to jump ship with him to the other platform.
adam crigler
And they're going to go- So they're going to, cost analysis will- Add more people.
Yeah, and they'll lose way more.
tim pool
Or, they'll say, we lose the money, but Spotify gains the money.
And then YouTube's gonna be like, and what's our projections?
Well, Spotify's growing at, you know, X percentage per year.
If we start losing our audience to them by censoring people, take a look at TikTok.
When TikTok started getting complaints for hate speech, you know what they did?
They banned the people being bullied, not the bullies.
adam crigler
Oh, that's right.
I remember that.
tim pool
So there's an easy way to explain it.
There's a fat woman.
adam crigler
So weird.
tim pool
Does a TikTok.
A bunch of people start mocking the person for being fat.
So TikTok banned the fat girl, not the people attacking her because they said, Why would we ban the 300 people instead of the one person?
It makes more sense.
Not morally.
Ethically.
adam crigler
It makes sense to them monetarily, maybe.
tim pool
Made them the most money.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So I think right now, because YouTube has no competition, they're not concerned about losing.
But if you have Spotify dominating the podcast market, you have YouTube losing a large chunk of its mature audience, which it desperately needs.
YouTube, so the secret is if you're a 34 year old male, you are the power.
That's what YouTube and Fox and CNN are desperately trying to get.
34 year old men.
That's the golden, you know, identity or whatever.
The key demographic is like 20, 28 to like 35.
That's what they're aiming for.
If YouTube, not that they are going to lose Rogan, they're probably sitting there thinking like, hmm, how many people are going to go with him?
What's that going to do to us?
How much more are we going to have to spend subsidizing this?
And then if Spotify ends up winning this battle, what do we have left?
Spotify's going to host videos.
They did in the past.
They're going to do it in the future.
So I think you're going to start seeing some healthy competition.
adam crigler
I'm excited for it.
I'm glad it's happening.
tim pool
It's the video push, man.
Jason says, it's so weird to see the progressives fighting for shutdown and the conservatives fighting for opening.
Historically, it's the other way around.
Everything seems to flip.
It doesn't make sense anymore.
Dim Sum Nim Sum says, I think how strictly you said not to say Voldemort's name really sink in with Joe.
But I don't think he realized how bad it was.
When I told him on the show, you can't say this name.
So I just told him, I was like, you realize that Rand Paul was on the Senate floor.
adam crigler
Saying this guy's name, talking about it.
tim pool
Having nothing to do with the context of impeachment.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And they banned C-SPAN.
adam crigler
That's nuts.
tim pool
Like, I don't think, you know... But, you know, Joe is concerned about censorship.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And I think he's seeing it more and more.
Like, it's really... He didn't realize when he had Jack Dorsey on what was going on.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then he saw people, like, saying all this stuff and was like, whoa, what is this?
You know, what did I miss?
He's a comedian, man.
He's an MA commentator, so he's not into politics.
He is, but not the same as, you know, like, I would be.
So yeah, I think it did.
I think it did, you know, mean something.
But I also imagine he's been working on this deal for a long time.
I mean, come on.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like the scale of the deal.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
The size of his show.
He's probably had a bunch of lawyers.
adam crigler
Agreed.
tim pool
Crypt Crack Attack says, Rogan, today, let's hope that PewDiePie is next.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
PewDiePie on Spotify?
Maybe?
unidentified
If Spotify starts doing videos, man, that would be... How many million followers does PewDiePie have?
100.
adam crigler
I've never seen a PewDiePie video.
tim pool
They're pretty good.
He just kind of does his thing.
He's just PewDiePie, you know?
adam crigler
Cool.
tim pool
So he's done some really, really good videos.
He's done some philosophy videos, too.
lydia smith
Yeah, he did one on stoicism I still have to watch.
adam crigler
You haven't seen a video on stoicism?
lydia smith
I haven't, I know, I'm way behind.
adam crigler
But you're so stoic.
tim pool
Did you remind everybody they had to smash that like button?
adam crigler
I did.
lydia smith
Excellent.
adam crigler
I did.
tim pool
YouTube's broken right now, I can't see it.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
We actually, you didn't know this, we hit 18,000 people today.
lydia smith
Dude, we did.
tim pool
18?
adam crigler
Yeah.
unidentified
What?
adam crigler
We hit 18k.
We're at almost 16 right now.
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
What are you guys doing?
adam crigler
They're hanging out with the coolest podcast on YouTube.
tim pool
It's because we're talking about Alex Jones and Joe Rogan.
adam crigler
No.
Well, maybe.
Or we're just cool.
tim pool
Well, hey man, guess what?
Those 2,000 people who left just missed that.
adam crigler
They did.
They missed the secret information we just got.
tim pool
I was surprised.
I was like, did Joe not mention this before?
adam crigler
Yeah, I guess.
tim pool
I don't know.
To me, that's huge.
adam crigler
Cool, you guys got the inside information right when he got back.
As we heard it, you heard it.
tim pool
I had to ask Joe, I was like, wait, that's on the record.
He's like, yeah, bro, yeah.
adam crigler
I'm like, what?
Like, alright.
tim pool
Like, while everybody's getting demonetized?
That's crazy, man.
adam crigler
Yeah, that is interesting.
tim pool
They had a heads up.
Yeah, this one's good.
All the ranting, all the crazy, all of the stuff.
Wow, man.
adam crigler
Yeah, they wanted a piece of that money.
unidentified
They did.
tim pool
Because that's a lot of money.
They were like, yeah, we'll make that money.
Lou Bella says, West Virginia could use the revitalization you bring, and its topography makes it easy to social distance, but also contributes to its insular culture.
Internet is also spotty across the state.
I've done some checks on West Virginia.
adam crigler
There are so many people trying to influence where you move.
tim pool
But I do want to be close to where we already are.
adam crigler
I agree.
I would like that too.
tim pool
Yeah, the meme on Rogan's subreddit is RoganWorld.
RoganWorld?
He has this big deal now he can do whatever, like he can build a city or whatever.
adam crigler
Go make a spot somewhere?
tim pool
Nah man, you know what people end up doing?
adam crigler
Sounds awesome though.
tim pool
These are the things that I won't know having talked to him because there's certain questions you don't ask about a person's personal life and something like that.
You know, most people do boring stuff.
I'm not trying to, you know, it's no disrespect to him or Elon or anybody else.
I guess Elon's building spaceships, so he's one of the few people doing crazy stuff.
adam crigler
That's not really boring, yeah.
tim pool
But I think you can see what somebody does.
And we know what Joe does.
He's going to keep doing it.
I don't think anything will change.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
It's like Elon was building crazy stuff and then got money and started building more crazy stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
He makes flamethrowers and electric cars, you know.
It'd be cool, though.
All right, Napalm says, what if Democrats are keeping the lockdown to ruin the economy and blame Trump, while social media and mainstream news censors and covers for the DNC to prevent them from being blamed for the economy?
Too grandiose of a conspiracy for me.
I do think they're first and foremost scared of being blamed for it.
And I think some of them do see an opportunity to exploit this for personal gain.
And I think the media just falls in line.
That's it.
The media is just like, whatever the Democrats say, you know, that's what's popular with the audience.
unidentified
Yep.
adam crigler
Seems that way.
tim pool
SMU says, Tim, the reason you might have been wrong about the 2010 midterm results was because you are ignoring the fact that the Mueller probe was dragging on through that.
Not your predictions.
You were still spot on.
That's another, that's a really good point.
Now, at the time, a lot of people may have believed the Mueller stuff was real.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then came out to vote.
And now that it's gone, people might not care.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's true.
tim pool
Jeff Hardesty says if you use the horseshoe theory, the far left and right are both adjacent to the far right.
Not related to today's show, but I thought it was funny.
It is.
Zachary Tietjen.
Spotify is owned by Google, according to Jimmy Dore.
Isn't that true?
I don't know if that's true.
adam crigler
I don't know if that's true either.
tim pool
Yeah, they wouldn't be competing, that wouldn't make sense.
But, I don't know.
adam crigler
Isn't Spotify a Swedish company?
I'm pretty sure, yeah.
tim pool
Wax, thanks for becoming a member.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Graph Ontario says, at this point, I've long accepted Spotify as a lesser evil.
YouTube is getting worse, and I managed to join a promo where I got free Hulu quite a while back.
Hey, cool.
I mean, competition.
That's all that matters.
They can both be evil, but as long as they're forced to compete with each other, then it's going to be better for everybody.
Aaron says, I feel like Barney from How I Met Your Mother was the catalyst for making Cobra Kai.
Interesting.
adam crigler
I love that show.
It's a great show.
tim pool
Andrew says, as a fairly right-wing person, your policies that may land on the left help me avoid confirmation bias.
I may not agree 100%, but your fairness and journalistic integrity are what keeps me watching.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
Mark says, Mind over matter is very real but hard to achieve.
John Dempsey says, Love you.
Keep it up.
I will.
Thank you.
We all will.
The Hylian Juggalo.
Good on Joe.
I hope the Vinesauce people leave Twitch soon.
They're the only people on there worth watching.
Olivia says, Thanks for truth.
You listen every day and Alkaline Trio.
Awesome.
Alkaline Trio is great.
Mark says, AK-47 is the best gun.
Main reason?
Aliens don't invade.
Perhaps.
Chisholm says, two docs are grossly inaccurate.
I'll send that too.
adam crigler
Maybe the two doctors that were talking about the immune system in California.
tim pool
So I think if your numbers are accurate on how many people we've had, it might get really difficult to go through all the superchats at this point.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's a lot.
Oh no, we're good.
We're okay.
Let's just rock them out.
We don't have that much time left.
tim pool
Zai Yen says, how much money for a Beanie List stream?
I think the last number was 500,000?
unidentified
Yep, 500,000.
tim pool
Half a million.
adam crigler
Yep, half a million.
tim pool
Magic Man says, YouTube is China-centric.
I will not be surprised.
Outlaw Bear says, safer advertisers means Big Pharma-friendly.
Who else buys ads on CNN or Fox?
Those commercials where they're like, is Florboestra good for you?
Contact your doctor and ask them.
Those commercials, they're so weird, right?
adam crigler
They're so weird.
And then they do all the side effects and this little...
diarrhea that this is a little of the world of it's like what does that even mean i got it
unidentified
you don't talk about yeah they'll give you like the side effect of death by the
adam crigler
way this might kill you oh yes and also your eyes will bleed
your uh... skin might fall off in some areas but don't worry it'll stop you
from having a heartburn like what what's what's what's funny about the noise
tim pool
why would i on like with without any prompt just randomly call my doctor and
be like is florida wester right for me And he's gonna be like, no, no, it's for like 80 year olds.
adam crigler
Or yes, because doctors get paid by those people too.
tim pool
Yeah, that's true.
adam crigler
I don't know if that's still a thing.
I'm pretty sure it's still a thing though.
tim pool
When I first got to California, I was on the Venice boardwalk and some guy stopped me and he was like yelling weed card, weed card.
And he was like, yo bro, bro, come here, come here.
And I was bored, I had nothing to do.
So I was like, what up?
And he's like, you got your weed card yet?
And I was like, no, what is that for weed?
Medicinal marijuana, man.
It's legal.
And I was like, no, no, I don't.
And he goes, but you're like sick, right?
And I was like, no, I'm actually OK.
adam crigler
You're sick.
tim pool
He's like, no, but you're not a doctor.
You can't say that.
You don't know.
You got to see our doctor.
And I was like, but I got nothing to see the doctor about.
And he goes, Your feet hurt, and I was like the wall.
adam crigler
Did he stomp on your foot?
tim pool
No, I was skateboarding I was like well like not right now, and he's like they hurt sometimes right and I was like I was like bro.
You see me holding a skateboard.
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
I'm not a doctor I'm a doctor gosh like your feet hurt sometimes.
He's like mmm.
You better see our doctor about that He's like five bucks to get a weed car you buy weed, and I'm like alright, dude.
lydia smith
Oh I'm gonna walk away.
tim pool
I thought it was hilarious though.
He's right though.
I'm not a doctor.
I think I know how my feet are hurting though.
It's like I finished a session.
adam crigler
I do miss skating the Venice Boardwalk.
tim pool
Venice is great.
I love it.
Cameron says, have five bucks, I would give more, but need to pay the king's tax to the Alphabet Boys to exercise my rights.
Unfortunate.
Vsidious says, consider Florida for your move.
Coast's not as hot as you'd think, and never a shortage of news, especially with Florida Man.
Florida Man not drinking and driving, just at stop signs.
Still a favorite.
We lived in Florida.
adam crigler
We did.
tim pool
No dice.
adam crigler
No thank you.
Nope.
lydia smith
Swimming in the air.
tim pool
It was really cool when it thunderstorms.
adam crigler
I have some good memories.
I have some bad memories.
tim pool
It's like living in a jungle with a thunderstorm was cool.
Like, the amount of rain that poured down was insane.
But yeah, 100 degrees and max humidity, I'll pass.
Oh, I have huge news.
Did we mention the beanies yet?
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
We may actually have these beanies.
adam crigler
Those exact beanies, everybody.
tim pool
With the custom symbols available directly through the YouTube store.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So I'm waiting for confirmation.
I was told by someone working in this system, I'm trying to be vague, saying, I think we can source these and get everything ready and good to go for you.
We'll let you know by next week.
They said, we can let you know by tomorrow.
We'll try to do our best.
It might be next week.
And I was like, the sooner the better.
I was like, because we're going to sell, you know, 50,000 of these overnight.
adam crigler
Overnight?
tim pool
I'm kidding.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I explained to them what we were looking for and they were like, here's what we have available.
And I said, I'd rather get it perfect.
And they said, maybe we can actually source a custom product.
And I was like, if you do this, you do this fast, it's on.
And they were like, you got it.
lydia smith
That'd be so cool.
adam crigler
Cool.
tim pool
So then it would just be like a link under the video.
You'd see the beanie, just click the beanie on the video and boom, you get one.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
That would be awesome.
lydia smith
That'd be awesome.
tim pool
Yeah.
Grant says, along with the Canadian government's goal of monopoly force with their OIC firearm ban, we have police upgrading their armaments to 300 blackout in Quebec.
Meanwhile, we've banned more airsoft gear.
Yep.
adam crigler
Silly.
tim pool
Mr. Schwagen says, everyone needs to wear a mask in public via public fiat for everyone's safety.
Wait, is that a hijab?
How dare you treat women like that?
Didactic says, I believe Joe is fighting censorship.
If Spotify opens their video platform for smaller creators, this can change everything and be a serious threat to YouTube.
Spotify is open for smaller creators with this camera.
You can actually very easily get your show on Spotify and everyone should do it.
So I use Buzzsprout, which is an RSS-like podcasting service.
And it very easily explains to you how to get on iTunes, how to get on Google, how to get on Spotify.
adam crigler
But puts them out there for you on all of them?
tim pool
So what it does is it shows you how you sign up.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And then Spotify approves you.
It takes like less than a day.
And then the hosting service I use puts my, like, what Spotify does is it calls to the link from my provider.
Okay.
So if you go to Spotify, open the app and go to podcasts and scroll down, you'll see the Tim Pool Daily Show.
I don't know if TPS IRL is there yet because we get a lot less views than IRL.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
We get a lot of views on YouTube.
YouTube is like 20 to 30 times more views, like, in my experience.
Podcasts is weird.
It's funny because there are a lot of people I see who get ridiculously huge podcast downloads but nothing on YouTube.
adam crigler
Hmm.
tim pool
Just different markets, I guess.
adam crigler
Yeah, maybe.
tim pool
Yeah.
Hudson says, Ethan Klein and Pokimane have engaged in sponsor shaming, which will drive more content creators away from YouTube in light of Rogan's move to Spotify.
Really?
unidentified
What's going on?
tim pool
I'll have to look that up.
adam crigler
I don't know about it.
tim pool
Jamie, thanks for the super chat.
Jason says, YouTube BPG.
Website is full of pron ads.
Yup.
Mark O'Brien says, Alex Jones is on shortwave radio sometimes.
Really?
Dwayne says, YouTube is trying to be themtube.
Users will not stick around for themtube.
We can get TV reposts on Hulu if we want them.
Bingo.
Eggman says, Metacafe gang, where we at?
Jeff at Large, check out I wear my face mask in my car.
Corey Hartsong parody at Media Bear YouTube channel.
Hilarious.
lydia smith
Is that like why I wear my sunglasses at night?
tim pool
Justin O'Toole mentions that the Georgia man who filmed Ahmaud Arbery has been charged for murder and attempt, uh, he says false imprisonment, but I believe it's attempted false imprisonment.
That's crazy!
Just filmed it.
adam crigler
He was just filming it?
tim pool
The guy filming it?
But they're arguing he was an accomplice, I guess?
Man, I don't believe in, I don't think justice matters when the public opinion is, is, is, is, is angry.
adam crigler
Yeah, that whole thing, man.
tim pool
JV says, 32-year-old male here, thanks for the after-dinner entertainment.
You got it!
Oddball Gaming says, hey Tim, you are now my MSM.
This podcast is now quote-unquote morning news.
unidentified
Yay!
tim pool
To work and first hour on the clock heading to the economic front.
Appreciate it, man.
That's cool.
unidentified
Awesome.
adam crigler
Right on.
tim pool
Stanley Desart says, bro, I've been waiting for a move like Joe to shift the power dynamics of the monopoly YouTube has.
If it didn't have such a strong hold on video content, it'd be gone.
I pray censorship bites them.
It's all about the partnership program, man.
That is everything.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
If there was a platform that said, we will pay you, like a CPM, people would be like, I'm there.
But YouTube's the only one where it's like, you can have a career here.
And it's because they have a stranglehold on it.
Soob says, hey guys, huge fan here, keep up the great work.
Tim, did you know that your second channel isn't allowing people to hit the notification bell for kids content?
Wait.
Wait, what does that mean?
I don't know what that means.
lydia smith
Shouldn't be kids content anyway.
tim pool
Hit the notification bell for kids content?
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Off a look into it.
adam crigler
No idea.
tim pool
Huh.
D14 says, Ubisoft terms of service change.
Lady Lydia, pull it up please.
It's a huge breach of service and overreach.
Tim, you have the power to bring to light.
We will take a look into it.
adam crigler
Yeah, I don't know anything about it.
tim pool
Yeah.
Sean Moore says, I'm a 30-year-old male.
10 years ago, I was at Occupy.
Tim, you might remember me.
I was the guy who worked there but still ate the free protest pizzas.
I don't remember.
I apologize.
Mark Robertshaw says, so YouTube is trying to be like a newspaper.
Apparently so.
Student of History.
The sun is about 400 times the size of the moon, but the moon is 400 times closer to us.
That's how they look the same.
We get eclipse.
Also, sometime in the future, we're going to lose the moon, and the sun will eat us.
adam crigler
Yep.
One inch a year.
tim pool
There's a... I forgot what it's called.
It's a simulator for space.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
It's one of the most fun games ever.
adam crigler
Cool.
tim pool
Yeah, you can just like... Is it on a computer?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I have it on my other computer.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
And it's on Steam.
And it's probably called like Solar System Simulation or something.
People will probably point it out.
adam crigler
Sounds like fun.
tim pool
You just... I would make Earth spin really, really fast.
Yeah, and then I increase the temperature and see what happens and decrease it.
And then if you increase the temperature too much, it explodes.
adam crigler
Oh, wow.
tim pool
It's fun.
adam crigler
Is it realistic, though?
tim pool
Yeah, you're watching everything move and you can speed things up.
And you can speed up the orbit of Earth and then watch it get slingshotted off our solar system and then just start drifting away.
unidentified
That's awesome.
tim pool
And then as it gets further away, you see the temperature start dropping rapidly.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
And then it turns to ice or something.
lydia smith
Oh, cool.
tim pool
But I always like, uh, the fun is you can turn the sun into a black hole.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
You're just increasing the mass.
And then all of a sudden it just, it grows and grows and blows up and everything.
Yeah.
It's a fun game.
unidentified
Cool.
adam crigler
I want to check that out.
It's fun.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Thanks for sending that our way though.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
The statistics.
tim pool
Universe Simulator, I think it's called.
Is that what it is?
Universe Sandbox?
Universe Sandbox 2, someone says.
adam crigler
Oh, maybe.
tim pool
It's fun.
adam crigler
Maybe there's another one.
tim pool
It's like, I'm going to move the sun over here and then all the planets just go straight in other directions.
adam crigler
That's fun.
tim pool
Because there's no longer anything to orbit.
adam crigler
Yeah.
That's cool.
tim pool
Ryan Vero says, do you have a Faraday cage for the bug out van?
Only thing in the world I'm worried about is solar outbursts.
No, but I'll get a big microwave and then I'll put a little microwave in it.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's a good point.
There could be a solar flare that could just knock us off.
I saw one of the largest solar flares recorded and its size comparison compared to the earth.
So if the earth is this big, it was like this big.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
And it was like, whoa!
So if that hit us, I mean... Didn't we have one of those in like the 1800s?
tim pool
I don't know.
But it was before we had a big electrical grid.
Yeah.
adam crigler
Before we heavily relied on technology, yeah.
tim pool
Yep.
adam crigler
Who knows?
tim pool
Stanley says, I'm gone from YouTube ASAP.
I hate YouTube.
Yeah.
SDFU says, fun video rabbit hole.
San Juan Island pig war.
It was the only war in the history of the U.S.
that resulted in the loss of territory by the U.S.
Really?
adam crigler
Interesting.
tim pool
Maxim says, don't ever stop what you're doing.
We are the revolution and you are leading it.
I'm a dude in his room complaining on the Internet about his feelings.
But if you want to call me the leader of a revolution, I'll take it, I suppose.
Blaine says Bitcoin is going to skyrocket to 100,000 by the end of 2021.
Time to buy is now.
adam crigler
I was thinking about it.
tim pool
I think so.
But I also think that it's exactly what, like, the conspiracy theorists don't understand how good Bitcoin is for the global, you know, Illuminati, whatever they think it is.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
A system where every transaction can be traced?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, so they have to know your address.
Yeah, they'll have an AI, or not even an AI, just a computer that can calculate all of the different movements.
They'll easily, using metadata, identify you.
And then they'll know everything you spend all your money on.
adam crigler
And of course, we just talked about a solar flare that could technically erase all of the bitcoins.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
And it's like, oh, suddenly there's no electronics anymore.
tim pool
Sci-fi Fight Club ending.
adam crigler
Like, the poles just shifted because of this major solar flare and now we have to rebuild everything.
tim pool
Now we have no money.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Who knows?
tim pool
Brewmaster says, speaking of being censored, I have been told to rewrite plenty of my superchats because they tip off filters.
The comments in question are based and nose-pilled related.
Yeah, I've had people mention that in superchat several times.
Certain words don't appear.
I actually tried superchatting when we were on the road, and I said something like, don't touch my effing UFO because you moved it, and it didn't come up.
adam crigler
I totally moved it.
unidentified
It wouldn't let me swear.
adam crigler
Oh, interesting.
That would have been fun to get a comment by.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Graf Von Tirol says, imagine that.
A time when going to Vice was a big deal.
It's a real shame they don't have anything like those old documentaries anymore.
Yeah, maybe they will in the future.
Scientist Solarian says, Tim, you should move to North Alabama.
Huntsville suburbs have NASA, Space and Rocket Center, Redstone Arsenal, and it is literally 8th safest county in country.
Everyone is so friendly, and we could jam.
We will see where we end up.
But of course, everybody wants me to go, you know.
John Wall says, have you guys heard of the Wikipedia Hitler game?
You click the random article button on the left, and then use the links in the articles to go to other Wikipedia articles until you get to Hitler, and it's like six links.
Gets you there every time.
Seriously?
lydia smith
Six degrees of Hitler?
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Yup.
tim pool
It's like every single time, no matter what, it brings you there.
What?
It's weird.
Try it right now on your computer.
adam crigler
Eh, I'm good.
tim pool
BaneTrump says the guy that was ripped was on roids and could not do a PCT once he was hospitalized.
That's why he lost so much weight.
No juicing in hospital either.
KiteTheTwinBlade says a la South Park, I'm going to decline that software update.
Bobcat says, you can already track who you have come into contact with through their cell phones.
Look up Brendan O'Connor creepy DOL work.
It's similar to some work I've been doing lately.
adam crigler
Interesting.
tim pool
Mark G says, Adam, you might be reading the wrong notes, I think.
Go to settings, general, software updates, learn more, and it's the third paragraph.
Love the show.
adam crigler
Interesting.
That's exactly where I was.
I still have it open, actually, right here.
Let's see the third paragraph.
unidentified
No?
tim pool
No, I mean... Maybe because you have an older phone.
adam crigler
Yeah, maybe.
tim pool
Maybe it can't... Maybe it's too... Oh, you know what?
I think you have the 7?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It doesn't have NFC.
adam crigler
What's that?
tim pool
Near Field Communications.
adam crigler
That might be it, yeah.
tim pool
But maybe not.
I'd imagine they would use Bluetooth or something.
adam crigler
Yeah, I don't know.
tim pool
Yeah.
Let's see.
Corey says, when does Soy Jesus ride at the head of 10,000 vegan saints to pass judgment on the fake news and censorship of the world?
adam crigler
Oh, man.
I think that's one of the biggest things that differentiate me being a vegan from most vegans.
People like the stereotypical vegan.
I don't pass judgment.
I mean, obviously, that's what this show is, is us judging everything.
Complaining, judging.
No, I don't judge people for what they eat.
As far as like, you can eat whatever you want, like whatever.
It's not going to affect me.
I'm not going to get triggered because you're a meat eater.
tim pool
There's authoritarian veganism and libertarian veganism.
adam crigler
Okay, eat a steak.
Fine.
My dad makes the best steaks ever.
I don't eat steak right now, but I can still say that.
Like, whatever.
Okay.
lydia smith
Yeah, you can go on the political compass and be libertarian or authoritarian.
tim pool
They'll add vegan to the political compass somewhere.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
I'm more of like his main general, you know, that happens to be vegan.
Because you're the leader.
So the other super jet just said, you're the leader of the revolution.
tim pool
So I'll be sitting in the back on a golden throne with an angry scowl on my face.
lydia smith
Okay.
adam crigler
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
You don't want to become the villain though, man.
tim pool
No, no, no, hold on, hold on.
And then there's going to be two pegasi?
Pegasuses?
adam crigler
I think that's it, pegasi.
tim pool
Pegasi?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And they're gonna have, uh, like, uh, you know, harnesses that both go up together, and you're gonna be having one foot on each of them, with a sword in one hand, and you're gonna be riding, and there's gonna be, like, you know, the Valkyrie coming in.
adam crigler
Awesome.
unidentified
Alright, alright.
adam crigler
Now that is a picture I wanna see.
Huh?
unidentified
Huh?
adam crigler
Somebody, hook me up.
tim pool
Jonathan Young says, I've had recommendations for this channel all day.
I've never had recommendations for your channel that I can remember.
Something happened, man.
Well, we got that checkmark.
Ooh, magical.
Yeah, we got a checkmark.
I wonder if this Joe Rogan thing has spooked YouTube.
adam crigler
I got you, chat.
tim pool
Dude, didn't we just get the checklist the other day?
adam crigler
Last night.
tim pool
And Rogan, that's the same day Rogan made the announcement?
unidentified
Was it?
adam crigler
Or was it last night?
No, it might have been two nights ago.
I don't know.
We just noticed last night.
We're like, wait a minute, what?
tim pool
Somebody said, whoa, did they just get that?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Around the same time, all I can say is Rogan announces a Spotify thing.
adam crigler
They want to make it official.
You guys are official.
tim pool
Imagine this.
adam crigler
Don't leave us.
tim pool
Imagine like you're watching a movie and it starts with a guy and you see him at a phone booth.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Phone booths exist.
And then he hangs up and he goes, my God, And then he's running and he's got like manila folders and he's wearing like a blue button up with a tie.
adam crigler
Papers are flying out.
tim pool
And he's running as fast as he can.
And then it's like the scene change shows him.
He runs in the building, he storms in.
He runs to the elevator, he hits the button.
And then he's like, which floor is Susan at?
And they're like, what?
unidentified
Susan, which floor?
tim pool
And they're like, 17!
And he's like, just hitting the button.
He gets up and he runs and he slams a thing down.
It's a newspaper and it says, Rogan to Spotify.
And she goes, how much time do we have?
And he's like, I don't know.
adam crigler
Months?
tim pool
And then she goes, Verify as many commentary channels as you can.
adam crigler
That's funny.
tim pool
If only.
adam crigler
Although there was a missed opportunity there with the elevator music.
I was expecting a little break of maybe a little Spanish Flea or something.
unidentified
Nice.
tim pool
So my phone doesn't have Face ID.
Thanks for the super chat.
Michelle Mybel says, looking at my 13.5 update and it does say COVID-19 contact tracing.
And now the face ID will know what you look like.
adam crigler
Oh, so my phone doesn't have face ID.
My phone is just prior.
tim pool
Yes!
adam crigler
I love my phone!
unidentified
It's time to downgrade.
adam crigler
Or stay where my phone is.
You're good.
You're gonna last me forever.
I mean, I'm good.
They send me ads all the time like, get the new phone!
And I'm like, why?
My phone's great.
I'm good.
I don't need a new phone.
tim pool
James Wallace says, Tim and Adam and Lydia, does a VPN block the new iOS tracking app asking for a friend?
adam crigler
I hope so.
For your friend.
tim pool
I don't think so.
adam crigler
I doubt it though, yeah.
tim pool
If you used a VPN, what it basically does is it sends your data through an encrypted tunnel before reaching the web.
So it gives you a shield.
It can help anonymize your data.
But if they know your device's information, it doesn't matter if it goes through a tunnel to the internet.
They know your device, they know where it is.
adam crigler
You're still getting a phone signal from somewhere to that point.
Yeah.
tim pool
Scientist Salarian says, I am the very model of a Scientist Salarian.
I've studied species Turian, Asari, and Batarian.
I am the very model of a Scientist Salarian.
If you guys know this song and understand my names, props.
adam crigler
I don't.
tim pool
Sorry.
adam crigler
I'm a little bummed that none of us know it.
tim pool
No, I don't know.
a major model of a modern major general song or whatever?
adam crigler
No, I don't know.
tim pool
Yeah, I have no idea.
Shame on us.
Bane Trump says ripped guy was on roids and could not keep judging.
Did this duplicate? I think it duplicated.
Graff Von Tirol says encouraging news on the Barber's legal challenge against the
tyrannical Karens of Michigan.
Time to celebrate this occasion with a UFO spin.
Did you spin it for him?
adam crigler
I just spun it.
That's weird.
No, I didn't spin it for you, but I will spin it for you.
tim pool
He's making the request.
adam crigler
You know what?
lydia smith
We have to do it.
adam crigler
You make a super chat to spin.
We're going to spin.
lydia smith
It's going to fly off into the atmosphere.
tim pool
Ella Bella says, we already have the COVIDSafe app in Australia.
It wasn't mandatory, but they sent messages to people asking them to download it.
Australia is really going crazy in the pandemic.
unidentified
Wow.
adam crigler
Got it really spinning for you.
tim pool
Ryan says, yay, Adam Kass has returned.
Oh, this is right around the time I was like, my phone rang, and it said Joe Rogan.
adam crigler
You were like, peace!
tim pool
I was almost going to not answer, because I was like... No, it's Joe Rogan.
adam crigler
You've got to answer, Joe Rogan.
No, no, no, no.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
unidentified
No.
adam crigler
Yes.
tim pool
We're doing a show.
We're doing a show.
lydia smith
We are at work.
adam crigler
How unprofessional of you.
tim pool
And it rang, and I had to think, Am I going to jump off this show where we've got all these people watching, relying on... There was like 17,000 people at that point.
I know.
adam crigler
And my phone rang and I was like, take the Super Chats because... I'm surprised a lot of people, there was a big jump or drop there, but people knew you were waiting for, like you were trying to listen to Joe and talk to him.
You didn't say it.
I actually said it, but yeah, you know, it was like, obviously it was Joe Rogan.
tim pool
Should we wait for me to come back?
adam crigler
Yeah.
And then we found the, we got the inside scoop.
tim pool
Yeah, it was cool.
It's not that exciting.
Life's never that exciting, you know.
I always tell people... Life is exciting.
adam crigler
Let's make it exciting.
tim pool
What did I do?
I took George Carlin's saying.
adam crigler
What is it?
tim pool
Think about how stupid the average person is.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And what I said on the show before was, think about how boring life is.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Now realized half of the news stories have been sensationalized and it's even more boring than you realize.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
It's kind of exciting.
All right.
Cordfunk says, when you erase history, you are doomed to repeat it.
Absolutely.
Logan Porter says, you guys should release an album for your songs titled The Beanie Bros.
It's complicated.
Also, thanks for what you guys do.
I really appreciate it.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
For sure.
unidentified
Cool.
tim pool
Neocarbine says, planned obsolescence.
They will slowly cripple your old phone with updates, making it slow and unusable, and force you to buy a new phone with the new update.
And I'm pretty sure that Apple had to settle a lawsuit or something about this.
adam crigler
Right.
Yeah.
Because they were doing it on purpose.
tim pool
Yep.
Yep.
K98killer says, Adam, have you looked into score voting slash score runoff voting?
Possibly only way to fix our broken democracy.
Equal vote slash science.
adam crigler
I haven't.
I should check that out.
tim pool
We'll check it out.
Mark says, cigars, vodka, and Timcast IRL.
Perfect.
Sounds like a good night.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Sarah Hill says, does China own YouTube?
The censorship and manipulation of search results seems to lead to such a conclusion.
They just need healthy competition.
That's it.
adam crigler
Yeah, who knows?
tim pool
Deplorable Pirate Captain Gunbeard.
A point no one has mentioned.
The longer blue states stay locked down, the more wealth and power transfer to red states.
This is what I don't understand.
They're propping up the red states?
adam crigler
Yeah, someone pointed this out in Super Chats earlier.
They're like, how are all the tax revenue from businesses?
They're gonna lose that.
tim pool
Yep.
adam crigler
Don't they realize that?
tim pool
They're demanding a bailout from the federal government.
adam crigler
Where's that money coming from?
tim pool
Trump said no.
adam crigler
That's also taxes!
Like, it's a circular system.
Like, what?
It doesn't make sense.
tim pool
The red states are going to come out of this clean and prosperous.
adam crigler
Yes, they are.
tim pool
That's crazy, man.
adam crigler
It's true.
tim pool
Let's see.
Poma says, guys, why are you so optimistic and overconfident about all this Rogan leaving stuff?
Even Joe's nine million audience is just a range up in an ocean of active users on this cursed platform.
YouTube is no longer interested in independent creators, even the biggest ones.
adam crigler
I think we kind of answered that already.
It's the spirit of competition.
Competition breeds development.
Look at just technology in general.
We were talking about, I think yesterday, Europe had competition over land, so they advanced so much faster technologically.
Versus the Americas, they just moved.
There was so much land, they just kept moving around.
You could see the spike.
tim pool
In the animal kingdom, the more freedom of movement an animal has, the less likely it is to be aggressive.
So birds don't fight for the most part, they just leave.
adam crigler
Yeah, just fly away.
tim pool
But badgers are aggressive because they're burrow animals, so when they get into a conflict, they have one direction they can move.
So they'll fight you.
It's ingrained.
I'm optimistic.
adam crigler
I am too.
tim pool
I think now it's going to come to a point, like we mentioned earlier, where YouTube is only weighing the negative press.
Hey, we're going to lose money from this.
Now they're going to have to weigh, we're going to lose money, Spotify's going to take it from us, and then they're going to beat us to the finish line.
adam crigler
And Spotify's going to get more powerful, more popular.
They don't want that.
tim pool
And it's not even about independent creators, because I agree, YouTube doesn't really care, but it's going to be, look, Joe Rogan may be independent, but he's a world-famous comedian.
Imagine if, you know, Netflix is trying to buy these world-famous comedians.
Do a special, we'll give you all this money, like, you know, Dave Chappelle got a ridiculous amount of money for his special.
He did like, you know, I think, I don't know how many specials, he had three?
adam crigler
It was like three, yeah, I think.
tim pool
And so now YouTube can't get access to that.
YouTube wants to be Netflix.
I know because a Google employee told me this to my face.
I was in the Google HQ several years ago.
And they said, our main competition is Netflix.
We are losing views to Netflix.
They want Netflix.
adam crigler
That makes sense, yeah.
tim pool
So they have an opportunity.
But, if they start censoring their independent creators, and Joe Rogan, who they want because they want to be Netflix, decides to leave because of it, then they have to do right by the smaller creators.
We'll see, we'll see.
Steve Fernald says, do any of you grow your own vegetables?
Hot peppers?
adam crigler
Yeah, we do.
lydia smith
We are growing our own vegetables right now.
We have a whole little garden.
We actually have a bunch of strawberries right now.
unidentified
Radishes.
lydia smith
We have tomatoes.
We pulled up all our radishes.
I think we've already eaten those.
We have carrots, I have peas, and we have potatoes.
unidentified
Wow.
lydia smith
I would like to do peppers, too, though.
unidentified
That'd be fun.
adam crigler
And onions.
We've got some onions going.
lydia smith
Yeah, we've got green onions, yeah.
tim pool
We did have a bunch of peppers, and then someone tried to pickle them, and they pickled them improperly.
Yeah.
The Great Death Throne.
We need uncensored reporting like this.
Keep it up.
I support you.
Thank you very much.
Ryan Roste says, people need to learn about blockchain and crypto.
It will set us free.
Anything can be secure and private without centralization and third parties.
The power will be in the hands of the people.
Absolutely.
I'm gonna take a quick stop and say, if you haven't already, make sure you're following me on Instagram and Twitter for, you know, my usual shenanigans.
But follow Adam as well, at Adam Krigler, because you can send him story ideas and requests, and then we actually pick them up for the show.
So, again, at Adam Krigler, at Timcast, and then you can follow at Sour Patch Lids.
lydia smith
Yeah.
With an Y. It's right there.
tim pool
Sour Patch Lids.
And, uh, smash that like button.
unidentified
Smash it!
tim pool
Smash it!
Gently.
It does help.
If things are going to start improving on this network, on YouTube, if things are getting better, then hopefully the likes really do help.
I think they do.
But more importantly, shares.
Yeah, please share.
You can censor somebody all you want, but if YouTube's trying to shadowban, and people are sharing that link, that's what I asked for when my video got shadowbanned.
I said, just share this video, don't let them do it.
It worked.
Dion says, which one would you pick?
If you could ride a dinosaur, a triceratops, or a tamed raptor?
were like share this video awesome right on Dion says which which one would you
pick if you could ride a dinosaur a triceratops or a tamed raptor
triceratops um raptors are the size of chickens I believe oh they're that small
Yeah.
They're tiny.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure raptors are tiny.
adam crigler
Triceratops though.
tim pool
Yeah.
And I also think they're from dramatically different time periods too.
Oh yeah?
Like tens of millions of years apart.
adam crigler
Cool.
tim pool
I don't know enough about dinosaurs I guess.
Sorry I ruined your fun joke.
Joshua says, Millennial Matt circumcised Tim Poole's four beanie.
That he did.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Angel Rodriguez says, Adam, the Star Wars edits are from George Lucas.
He edited the movie to be different multiple times.
There are multiple versions of the first Star Wars, and we getting the mythical Soi Bowie tomorrow.
adam crigler
Mythical Soi Bowie?
tim pool
What is that?
adam crigler
I don't know what that is, but... David Bowie?
tim pool
David Bowie version?
adam crigler
Yes, I know who David Bowie is, but... You remember?
lydia smith
They sent a picture of David Bowie wearing a dress?
adam crigler
Huh.
Oh, oh, bringing back to the dress.
Oh, yes.
Oh, now it makes sense.
Yeah, there you go.
You guys are going to have to start a petition for that.
lydia smith
That's going to be at least half a million dollars, I think, don't you?
adam crigler
No, no, probably not that much.
I'll wear a dress for $100,000.
unidentified
I think we're going to have to speed things up, man.
adam crigler
Oh wow, we're already over $15,000.
I mean, this was a huge show.
I really appreciate everyone showing up today.
Thank you guys.
But we're going to have to skip your Super Chats.
Unfortunately, if you're under a certain amount, we're going to move it along.
tim pool
I will be the first to say I'm sorry we do it this way, but it's kind of like the easiest and only way to really get through it.
adam crigler
Yeah, sorry everybody.
tim pool
But we get to a certain point, and I think it's around like once there's about 8,000 concurrent viewers, the live streams come in faster than we can actually read and comment on them.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
And what ends up happening is we just speed read everything, and it's just not even worth it.
So the easiest way to actually deal with it is I just start going for things that are 10 or more, and then if people actually start spending more, it's like the same problem.
adam crigler
There's some hefty superchats, so we gotta get to those for sure.
tim pool
I don't want to take away someone's right to speak simply because they weren't giving us all that money, you know what I mean?
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
No, you're right.
I hate how the system works, but the unfortunate reality is you guys, we just get too many, and we would not be able to read them in time.
I did like a four-hour livestream once because they were coming in too much, and I was like, I'm gonna read them all.
And then eventually it got late in the night, and the views went down, and then I was like, okay, okay, I made it through.
But we're going to speed up now, so I apologize to you guys for your superchats that we don't get to.
Ellen Jones says, Tim and Alex are also Steven Crowder adjacent.
What would the odds be of Tim being on Alex's show as a guest, or vice versa?
Because I won't travel, probably not in studio or anything like that, but I did go on InfoWars a while ago, several years ago.
adam crigler
Oh, cool.
tim pool
Philip, thanks for becoming a member.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Scientist Salarian says, you guys ever listen to the band TV on the radio?
Check out the albums Dear Science and Return to Cookie Mountain and songs DMZ, Wolf Like Me, and so many more.
They are for rocking black dudes.
adam crigler
I like that band.
They're good.
tim pool
Isn't Alabama muggy also, though?
I would love to be more involved in science and space and stuff.
Alabama youthful vibe cool music scene lots of engineer science tech folks because of NASA and redstone arsenal
cost-effective land building is easy It's a cool place isn't Alabama muggy also though
Yeah But that actually does sound like a good idea would be cool
to be really close to NASA Engineers because we could do crazy stuff like I want to do
adam crigler
a channel. I would love to be more Here's my idea science and space and stuff. I have an idea
stuff. I have an idea. Do you have an idea?
tim pool
I have an idea.
adam crigler
Just one idea?
tim pool
One.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And if you guys want to steal this idea, okay, make sure you do this under the supervision of professionals, and I recommend only engineers, so do not do this at home, but here's my idea.
We take objects, and we electrocute them, but the voltage or whatever is determined by the amount of
viewers or likes or shares or something.
So basically you have like a thousand viewers, you're getting a certain amount of volts going
through the object and then people watch and then over time they're going to be like,
share this we need to get more viewers, we need to get more viewers, and then you end up with like...
adam crigler
I think that's a good idea that we should probably do.
lydia smith
Short circuit the block.
adam crigler
That sounds like fun.
tim pool
So there's challenges with like power consumption.
adam crigler
Do not do this at home!
Unless you're a professional.
tim pool
But then you'd eventually get to the point where like the watermelon like you've got like you know it's electric and then blows up.
adam crigler
And the first show will be a watermelon that will be electrifying.
tim pool
Yeah yeah.
adam crigler
Fried watermelon.
tim pool
You know I got the idea because of the hydraulic press channel.
And I'm like what are other things you could do that people like there's the flaming hot nickel ball where they torches it and they put it on something.
There's a hydraulic press and I'm like well what happens when you electrocute stuff?
All right.
Sounds good.
I'm not an electrical engineer.
I don't know much about voltage and amperage and all that stuff, but you'd see the numbers and then, you know, it'd be fun.
adam crigler
Cool.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
I like it.
tim pool
Yeah.
Let's see here.
Awful Mongolian says, NCFTW.
Also, don't cough on me.
I won't.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Steven Mitchell says, in your guys' move to the center, have you considered doing segments on you learning about firearms, the ridiculousness of the laws around them, and MSM misinformation campaigns about them?
Yes.
But I've read a decent amount of these for a while.
And that's why I've always been rather tepid on my positions, having to deal with them.
Like, I actually went to a police academy training and asked them about it.
And interestingly, in Jersey, the trainers were, like, legit experts.
And they were for reforms.
A lot of them.
They said the problem is a lack of uniformity.
So people can get in trouble if they don't realize traveling through a certain area.
They mentioned there's another problem with the lack of uniformity is that you can go to one state, you live there, get a weapon, and easily bring it to another state, which criminals do.
So they were like, the restrictions we need are the ones we don't have, and the restrictions we have are the ones we don't need.
And I was like, that's interesting, I don't know.
But that's just, you know, to get into the specifics of it.
Let's see, what's next?
Tony L says, find your own path.
Is too broad as philosophy IMO?
Erwin S. says, organic life wouldn't be harmed if you're manipulating gravity.
Beings inside the craft wouldn't be affected.
Bob Lazar explains this crystal clear.
Is that what you guys are talking about, spaceships?
adam crigler
Yeah, someone asked about organic matter or organic life in a UFO that can stop on a dime, travel, and the G's force would kill organic life.
And so that's what they were just explaining.
tim pool
But if it was manipulating space, you wouldn't feel anything.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
Your space is static and you're moving in between.
Pablo D. Sanchez says, Have you heard about New Zealand's COVID-19 Public Health Response Act 2020?
It gives police constables the authority to force their way into your home without a warrant or ID if they're in uniform.
Gotta love it, huh?
Logan Howard says, Guild just got Thunderfury.
Love the show.
Keep it up.
In classic?
Got a Thunderfury?
That's legit!
You know what Thunder Fury is?
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
I think there were three legendary and classic.
Three legendary items that were like really, really hard to get.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And Thunder Fury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker.
I think that's it.
And then there was, what was it?
Sulfuros.
And there was that staff, I think.
adam crigler
Cool.
So it's really rare.
tim pool
It's insane.
Like, it reminds me of the South Park episode where they're like, we have found a man who truly has no life.
Have you seen that episode of South Park?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
The guy's playing well.
Jean McLeod says, in St.
George, Utah, talk to a lady, a nurse in critical care at hospital.
She said the COVID-19 cases are from nearby Indian reservations, but no local cases reported.
We're always sunny and not on lockdown.
Ashanthian, thanks for becoming a member.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Drunk Shovel says, as previously stated, friend, Lydia is a gem, but she probably isn't going to sleep with you.
Stay thirsty, my friends.
adam crigler
To all those simps out there.
tim pool
Yep.
lydia smith
Fair point.
tim pool
Troy Dingman says, Cuomo is such an umbrage.
Yep.
JMaxx says, glad getting the details on all of this.
Competition is the only way this whole experiment works, and too many big fish eating the little fish.
Politicians both right and left love big business, which is why this shouldn't be a Republican-Democrat issue.
It shouldn't be, but the culture war is divided into, like, pro-corporate establishment versus anything, you know, it's like, Trump Says something, and then the people who think no matter what Trump says is wrong.
That's the culture war these days.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Emcon, thanks for becoming a member.
Big JL says, when I transition to a new platform, I worry about how my loss of views, YouTube Red subscription, will negatively affect creators.
I had heard Red subs give money to creators even though they are demonetized.
I feel tripped.
They do.
And it can be really good.
It can be.
But it's definitely less than ads.
Graboid Biden says I turned 34 on Saturday.
1986 was the best year for planet Earth.
Changed my mind.
I agree with you.
I was born in 1986.
My phone died right before my spider comment, though I did hear Yell's comments.
adam crigler
Oh, good, good.
tim pool
I don't know.
I don't know.
I have a feeling he is.
We'll see though.
He said he was concerned about the censorship.
I would imagine that's the case.
membership and you should reach out to them uh...
adam crigler
i don't know i have a feeling is
tim pool
i think that's it i mean he if he said he was concerned about the censorship
and i would imagine that's the case that he can do what he wants to do yet
but it's also a licensing agreement So it's like, he's just doing the show and then Spotify runs it.
If he did a show and Spotify said, we don't want this, then they just wouldn't run it and the clips would go on YouTube.
That was the other thing he said.
He was like, the clips are on YouTube, man.
And I'm like, right.
He's like, yeah.
So like, what?
It's like not going to war with anybody.
Let's see.
Elhen.
Say my name, Ellie.
But seriously, you're doing a good job.
Appreciate it.
James Wall says, carry on my wayward sons.
They'll be peace when you are done?
Gone?
Which one is it?
Done.
adam crigler
Is it done or gone?
tim pool
Gone.
Downskated says, if you're looking for a place not too far away from you, Lancaster, PA.
One hour to Philly.
One hour, Bolt.
Rural area.
Conservative area.
Great town names.
Paradise.
Blue Ball.
Lititz.
Mount Joy and more.
adam crigler
That's kind of where I lived before.
tim pool
Where?
adam crigler
Not as far out as Lancaster.
Oh, really?
tim pool
We should look at it.
adam crigler
Elkins Park.
tim pool
What did I find?
A building that was like 200,000 square feet for like 200 grand or something?
adam crigler
That's insane.
And it's like... Oh, is it outside Baltimore?
tim pool
No, no, no, it was in PA.
adam crigler
Pittsburgh, right?
tim pool
It was like in the middle of nowhere.
Oh, Lancaster!
adam crigler
I don't want to be in the middle of nowhere.
tim pool
I saw a building, a massive factory in Lancaster.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah, and I'm like, no one in their right mind would buy that because how do you maintain a building that big?
unidentified
Exactly.
tim pool
You have the squatters?
Nah.
adam crigler
Nah.
tim pool
But those cities could work.
The Crude Dude says, Watcher of several years from the live reporting in Sweden stuff.
Keep up the great work.
I've got all sorts of people watching the show now.
Appreciate it, man.
adam crigler
Cool, thank you.
Nice.
tim pool
Mark Santola says, I am older and the Patriot Act was a huge deal.
What is going on actively with cell phone data tracking and tracing?
It is unreal that it isn't a bigger deal considering.
I completely agree.
adam crigler
People are used to it.
tim pool
Yeah.
He did.
Yeah, they're good.
I just wanna grill my veggie burgers for God's sake.
Yeah, for real.
We actually ended up buying a bunch of vegan snacks for one simple reason.
He did.
Adam has a bunch of like corn dogs and like fish sticks and stuff.
Yeah, they're good.
But here's the thing, you can pop them in the microwave and just eat them.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
I got regular fish sticks and I popped them in the microwave and it was like,
you can't do this because you'll get sick.
And I'm like, I just want to have a quick freezer snack, man.
I don't want to.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So, uh, we got some corn dogs and they're vegan.
adam crigler
And I was like, they're so good.
Those, those corn dogs.
tim pool
They're amazing.
They're really good.
I did get chicken nuggets too, but the idea was to make something that was like, I don't got to worry about getting sick from like bacteria or something.
adam crigler
Yep.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
tim pool
SuperFreeEducation says, if Google uses NFC for contact tracing, it will be literally useless as majority of
Android phones don't have NFC.
Right, so maybe Bluetooth?
Daniel Kerr says, Carrington event 1859 was so strong it fried telegraph cables.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Matthias Brockington.
Ryan V. Jones mentioned earlier Wilmington for a move for you guys.
Wilmington, North Carolina.
The only successful queue in the United States.
Also, there is underground railroads and tunnels blocking off to the public.
Come help Da Exposure.
We'll look into these cities.
Mike McCarty says, with everything going on, I'm reminded of the curse blessing.
May you live in interesting times.
I mean, I'm down to live in interesting times.
I'm happy about it.
adam crigler
There you are.
tim pool
Alright, we just got a big ol' jump.
Where did we go?
There we are.
Kubomi says, Yo, we need garden update vids a la Styx Hexenhammer.
unidentified
Maybe we should start a channel for the... Our garden is so much smaller than Styx's, though.
tim pool
We'll have to get a big one.
adam crigler
Maybe we should do something about that, too.
unidentified
Yeah, we should.
tim pool
Grow some wheat.
lydia smith
We're working on it.
tim pool
Deus Flex says, Gotta love Scientist Solarian's Mass Effect reference.
Speaking of which, one of the races, the Quarians, are forced to live in sealed suits due to their immune systems being weakened by living in ships for centuries.
adam crigler
Wow.
Interesting.
tim pool
TheCrudeDude says, the only reason I'm able to make it through Witless' lockdown is because of Grand Rapids craft beer industry and Legal Green.
What do you use on your hair, Adam?
Asking for a friend.
adam crigler
Uh, nothing.
It's, uh, actually, no, no, it's this thing, uh, what is it called?
Uh, water.
Yes.
Um, water.
When I shower, it gets wet and then this happens.
tim pool
There it is.
adam crigler
That's all I do.
tim pool
It's a very, very, uh, elite product.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Alan Jones says, hello TimCast team, what kind of cosmic events would have to occur for Tim, Steven Crowder, Joe Rogan, Alex Jones, and James O'Keefe, or some similar roster, to do a panel on ethical journalism or any other topic?
If someone hit me up and they were on board, I'd be like, for sure.
It would be really funny with Alex Jones and James O'Keefe on it.
I mean, all of them actually, it would be a really interesting conversation.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Because Alex just put out a clip he had to take back because... That's pretty funny.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's weird, man.
Yep.
What?
Doesn't make any sense.
Pan-demic dem panic.
unidentified
Ooh.
tim pool
Fear vote by mail and obey, stay inside.
Reconcile, release convicts from prison, jail you.
Do these people care about your wellbeing?
Do they love America?
It's the weirdest thing.
adam crigler
It's weird, man.
tim pool
We're gonna release prisoners and then arrest you.
adam crigler
Yep.
What?
Doesn't make any sense.
tim pool
Bo Rai Cho wins.
Any idea if the COVID lockdowns could make the coming flu season worse?
I really don't know.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
White Lasagna says, off topic, but Tim Pool for Tony Hawk.
I don't know what that means.
adam crigler
Get you in the game, dawg.
tim pool
Oh yeah, for sure.
adam crigler
Come on.
unidentified
Nah.
tim pool
It'd be fun.
adam crigler
Seeker character.
tim pool
Yeah.
Octorian says, hey Tim, late to the party.
Did you hear about the DOJ indicting a Democrat election judge in Philly?
Getting paid by consultant to stuff ballots in 2014, 15, and 16.
Dominic DiMuro is his name.
I did, and I'll probably talk about it tomorrow.
This is huge.
adam crigler
Yeah, we just found out right before the show.
tim pool
Ethan Johansson says, With all this draconian lockdown crap going on, I wish there was an anti-authority music scene like back during Vietnam.
Been listening to Fortunate Son by CCR a lot more often.
MN sucks too.
Zach Smith says, Hello Adam and Tim, hope you are having a good night.
I wanted to change up my diet and wanted to know if you had any good vegan recipes to try out.
adam crigler
You know, I only have one.
It's kind of one of my go-tos.
I actually just made it earlier today.
It's kind of like, I like making big huge pots of stuff, you know, so you don't have to cook often.
You can just kind of, I like eating it cold.
It's a pasta salad.
It's pasta.
There's like three or four different types of beans.
You should get mushrooms, some yellow peppers, green peppers, chop those up.
So it's all kind of the same consistency.
The yellow peppers, green peppers add like a nice crisp to it and then you just put it all together and There's this, I don't know the brand, but it's a vegan honey mustard sauce.
And I just dump it in there.
I think it's actually a salad dressing, but I don't care.
I just, I dump it in there and I just mix it all up this huge medley.
Sometimes I get some vegan sausage also and slice that really, really small, toss it in there.
It's really good, really good cold.
So you can just make a big, huge batch and it's got lots of good stuff in it.
So yeah.
tim pool
Sweet.
adam crigler
That's my go-to.
tim pool
Let's see, where are we at?
Adventurer says, Georgia number one, Hartsfield International, Southern Hollywood, relative freedom, a lot of mining towns that need help, the Appalachian Trail, and by far the best, I will let you pet my Burmese mountain dog pup.
Ah, Burmese are cool.
adam crigler
Cool.
tim pool
You know Burmese?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
Yeah, big foofy dudes.
Johansson Sock says, we're sitting on the precipice of change for our generation.
I wonder if this is how Roman society felt when they went from a republic to an empire.
Daniel Sotelo, aliens!
Mitchell S. Ence, thanks for becoming a member.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Well, we went a half an hour over today, and I was actually on the phone for like a half an hour, so we made up for it, I guess.
adam crigler
Hold on, just real quick.
Everyone's saying, well, honey isn't vegan, and it's like, yeah, yeah, it's a vegan honey mustard sauce, and it's actually made from maple syrup.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
adam crigler
So it's not actually honey.
It's a vegan honey mustard sauce, so.
Ha!
lydia smith
Make sure you do.
adam crigler
I love all these people that are trying to do this gacha.
Someone even said like, oh, I tried to get you with a gacha thing and I'm like, I don't care.
Yeah.
You could try to get me.
It's like, I try to be vegan.
If sometimes I slip, it's like, well, you know, I mean, I don't, you know, I try not to read all the ingredients that I'm eating.
So just kind of funny how, how people are.
tim pool
Everybody wants to get everybody sometimes.
adam crigler
You guys are funny.
tim pool
Well, if you haven't already, follow Adam.
adam crigler
Oh yeah, follow me.
And tell me how you might get me.
That's fine.
tim pool
Because on Twitter, you can send story ideas, as you know, we use them for the show.
So, at AdamKrigler on Twitter.
You can follow me at TimCast if you want to see soon-to-be skateboarding videos, pictures of cats on Instagram, but also on Twitter, I just, you know, shenanigans, complaining about politics and culture.
And then of course, Sour Patch Lids with a Y. Can you follow me?
L-Y-D-S.
lydia smith
L-Y-D-S?
tim pool
And she posts spicy memes.
lydia smith
I do memes and I talk to people.
tim pool
So I'm gonna read these last few superchats and then we're getting close to winding down and signing off.
Smash that like button!
Just smash it!
unidentified
Boom!
tim pool
Because it helps the channel.
And now we'll read these last few superchats.
Gary Sepulveda says, have you guys, have you played Nier Automata yet?
Awesome game.
adam crigler
I have plans to play that game.
Lots of people have been suggesting that to me.
I am not really sure.
I know it's a combat system that I like.
Similar to Dark Souls, kind of like over the shoulder, third person view.
tim pool
Pinky says, hi from Australia.
You lot make a good team.
Keep it up.
Will do.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Jeremy Wien says, you should have Joe Rogan on.
I would love to.
adam crigler
That would be amazing.
tim pool
But, you know, I do my thing.
adam crigler
He's a busy guy.
tim pool
QuietGuitaristFan, thanks for becoming a member.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Taco Tone says, your New Jersey From video got me banned from Facebook after I shared it doing my part.
Wait, what?
Really?
adam crigler
Wow!
tim pool
Wait, New Jersey From video?
Which one is that one?
adam crigler
Is it the gym?
Did you do?
tim pool
Maybe.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
And I said I'm leaving.
This is ridiculous.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Because it's like two year lockdown.
Jonathan Carroll says, Australians were once mostly freed.
Convex.
Haha.
I'm a descendant.
Maybe you guys will get a new working class.
Maybe.
TheCrudeDude, thanks for joining.
Hark's Creative says, please interview Rollo Thomassey.
It would be amazing for the understanding of the red pill for you and your audience.
Plus, it would make my life.
Well, once we get back out, you know, once we're out of this lockdown weird shenanigans, we'll see what we can do with guests.
lydia smith
I've actually already talked to him.
We'll see if we can figure something out.
adam crigler
Cool.
tim pool
Alright, so I think we're gonna get ready to sign off.
If you haven't already, subscribe, like button, share, all that stuff.
We would appreciate it if you did.
Follow at Timcast, at AdamKrigler, and at SourPatchLids, L-Y-D-S, and we will be back tomorrow night!
Which is tomorrow's Friday, right?
adam crigler
Tomorrow's our jam Friday.
tim pool
We're gonna play music tomorrow night.
adam crigler
We close the show on Fridays with music.
tim pool
8 p.m.
Stay tuned and we will see you all there.
lydia smith
Bye guys.
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