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May 13, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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TimcastIRL - Huge Chinese Rocket Piece Screamed over US Cities Narrowly Missing NYC
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adam crigler
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tim pool
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lydia smith
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unidentified
What's up everybody?
tim pool
Welcome to the TimCast IRL podcast.
We're chillin'.
I'm hangin' out with some people.
adam crigler
You know, just hangin'.
tim pool
Just hangin', man.
adam crigler
What's goin' on, everybody?
How you doin'?
We got- Heyo!
tim pool
That's Adam.
You're supposed to say your name.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
adam crigler
Well, usually- Normally, you say it.
tim pool
No, I leave it to you guys.
unidentified
No.
adam crigler
You're like- Oh, that's true.
tim pool
You're like, I know- Hangin' out with some peeps.
adam crigler
Adam Krigler, that's me.
How you doin'?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, look at that.
adam crigler
Thanks for showin' up.
tim pool
And then there's like- There's someone else, I think.
I can't remember her name.
There's someone else.
lydia smith
What's her name?
Sour Patch Lids.
That's my name.
I'm adopting it.
I'm rolling with it.
tim pool
Yo.
Um, yeah.
So, uh, what's going on?
adam crigler
Yeah, what is going on?
tim pool
It is a crazy day, man.
The news has been really, really nuts.
adam crigler
It feels the same.
tim pool
You know, it's really weird because we've all been locked down for so much.
You know, for those that are listening, like, all three of us have been talking about this.
There's a whole lot of stories that are, like, not really stories.
They're just like fragments of stories.
And I think it's because we can't go anywhere.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
We can't do anything.
We're like, so you look at the front line, you know, the front page headline news, and it's like Donald Trump today yelled at a dog.
Oh, and it's like it's always something about what Trump is doing.
I think it's because politics is easy.
If we can't go out and go to the movies, how do we talk about movies?
adam crigler
Didn't they say something about it finally being over?
Like we're like they're lifting the restrictions.
We can go out.
I thought that was a thing, no?
Am I wrong?
No?
I heard you guys cheer from the other room, like, yay, we're free!
And I was like, oh, we're free, this is nice.
tim pool
Well, not here in Jersey, but Wisconsin Supreme Court just basically shut down.
adam crigler
Wisconsin's like, yep, you're free, no one can tell you not to.
tim pool
It was a close ruling, it was four to three, that they won't extend the lockdown.
adam crigler
Nice.
tim pool
So I'm looking forward to it, because every day when we start pulling news and looking at stuff, it's like, oh man.
adam crigler
I can't wait!
unidentified
8. I can't wait yesterday was brutal go do anything or do things again. Yeah. Go bowling exactly. Yesterday was
tim pool
brutal because. There it's it's every every southern there's days where it's just. There'll be
like 300 stories. That don't relate to each other that are microscopic that have played out. And that's
when you know it's like a really bad day for the news where desperately trying to squeeze something
out.
I try to do more like, you know, philosophical or predictive segments in that case.
adam crigler
But soon we'll be going to the movies again and we'll be telling you guys what we think of movies!
lydia smith
Oh man, I can't wait!
tim pool
But this is what's crazy.
Remember those days?
Like when we did the Birds of Prey segment?
adam crigler
Man, that was fun.
tim pool
But that was a big story that people were talking about on Twitter and now it's like we can't go out and do anything so there's no...
Like, it's just, it's just been, it's over, you know?
adam crigler
Yeah, it's true.
tim pool
You know what's scary is, uh, apparently the mayor of L.A.
said that we're gonna be locked down forever.
adam crigler
L.A.
unidentified
is.
tim pool
I kid you not, this guy's an idiot.
adam crigler
The population of L.A.
drops.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
Right.
But this guy, he said, he was like, we're gonna, we're not gonna completely reopen until there's a cure.
adam crigler
Okay.
lydia smith
For a virus.
adam crigler
A cure.
tim pool
For a virus.
adam crigler
Yeah.
unidentified
Has this guy been through third grade biology?
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Let me show you a little picture, a little, you know, viral phage or whatever things, bacteriophage.
It's like, you can't, we have no cures for viruses.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So he basically said, we're locking down indefinitely.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
He clarified, he was like, the health department lady official said, We're, um, it's going to be at least three more months till August.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And everybody went nuts on Twitter.
They were like, you know, dear Lord, help us.
And then he goes on TV.
He's like, no, no, no, no.
I got to clarify that.
We're going to be locked down.
Like we're not going to be completely open much longer than that.
It was like, you're not making things better.
So apparently this guy doesn't know what a virus is and doesn't know that we don't have cures for these things.
So that's freaky.
You know, it's weird because it's all these like, Blue states that are doing it.
And red states are opening up.
adam crigler
Yeah, and it sounds like they're just making decisions off things they hear instead of actual science.
tim pool
Right.
Michigan's the worst.
adam crigler
Seems like it, yeah.
tim pool
Because, like, Whitmer, the governor, said this is an executive order, not a suggestion or whatever, like, and people are, like, there's signs saying, like, obey.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
What is wrong with your state?
It's weird.
adam crigler
Every time I see her talk or see a picture of her, I'm like, oh, is this an SNL sketch?
No, oh, it's not.
Oh, it's actually her.
It is.
tim pool
Right, right.
What does she look like?
She looks like someone from SNL.
adam crigler
Doesn't she?
lydia smith
I think she must.
tim pool
Like she's not a real person.
unidentified
Yep, yep.
tim pool
But there is, there is some, we got a bunch of stories.
We'll see what we get to, but the first one we really want to talk about is a 20 ton, 100 foot long Chinese rocket part.
Apparently it was flying over the US.
adam crigler
Over the US.
tim pool
Almost hit New York.
We'll get to it, but before we get started, make sure y'all hit that like button.
Make sure you jump in the super chat, and we will do our best to read your comments, we get to them.
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adam crigler
Yeah, please do.
tim pool
And we use the story suggestions, we do.
Yeah.
So do that.
And then also, you know, share this video, because one of the segments we're gonna do today is YouTube admits That nobody likes watching CNN, but they're going to share them anyway.
And it's funny because the BuzzFeed people and like these lefty blogs are angry that people are uploading videos to YouTube and then sharing them on Facebook.
I kid you not.
They are now mad that YouTube hosts user videos and people can share the link.
I'm not exaggerating.
BuzzFeed's trying to get this shut down.
adam crigler
That's crazy.
tim pool
They're pressuring YouTube to stop the ability of sharing URLs.
Like what does that even mean?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm like, they'll just go to Bitshoot, dude.
They'll go to Mines, just post a video.
These people are nuts, man.
They won't stop until... These people are drone authoritarian psychopaths.
adam crigler
Yeah, dude.
tim pool
So let's do this.
Why don't we talk about a Chinese rocket piece screaming over the U.S.?
That's actually... I'm using... That's a quote from another article from Futurism.
But let's read the news.
So here's the story from Popular Mechanics.
Chunks of China's powerful rocket fall back to Earth, narrowly missing NYC.
It is the largest piece of space junk to fall uncontrolled in nearly 30 years.
adam crigler
Yeah, since 1991, I guess.
tim pool
But check this out, this thing's massive.
This is why I was like, they say a rocket piece, and it's like, what does that mean?
Like a tiny little rock or something?
Yeah, right, right.
No, this thing's 20 tons.
adam crigler
Well, tiny rocks would just burn up in the atmosphere, so it has to be pretty big to make it.
tim pool
But if it was like stage one and it fell before it escaped the atmosphere, it was like, you know.
adam crigler
Well, and made it all the way across the entire country and landed in the Atlantic.
That doesn't... That's crazy.
So how did this thing fly over the US?
tim pool
I don't think that's stage one.
The large core stage of China's Long March 5B rocket re-entered Earth's atmosphere and plummeted out of control to the surface earlier this week.
At 100 feet long and 16 feet wide, it is the largest piece of space junk to fall uncontrolled from low Earth orbit in almost 30 years.
That's huge!
Initial reports suggested that the almost 20-ton rocket stage had fallen into the Atlantic Ocean off the west coast of Africa.
adam crigler
20 tons?
tim pool
20 tons, bro.
adam crigler
Dang!
tim pool
Imagine if that hit New York.
New reports from social media and some African news organizations suggest pieces of the rocket may have been thrown across parts of the Côte d'Ivoire.
Ivory Coast.
Ivory Coast, there you go.
The heavy-lift rocket, which was carrying China's prototype crew capsule, successfully launched from Wenchang Launch Center on Hainan Island off the country's southern coast.
Typically, rockets have a first stage that propels them for the first few minutes after launch, while the second stage helps the payload reach orbit.
But Long March 5B was different.
Instead, the rocket had a single core stage and four boosters that propelled it off the launch pad.
The speed and angle of the rocket's decaying orbit made it difficult to track.
Predictions spanned a range of sites from New York City to New Zealand, according to Space Flight Now.
adam crigler
That's a pretty large range.
What?
tim pool
Yeah, nobody knew where it was going.
That's insane.
If you're going to get that prediction, you might as well not predict it at all.
adam crigler
Two different sides of the planet.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
adam crigler
What could be anywhere?
Seriously.
tim pool
The U.S.
Air Force's 18th Space Control Squadron, which tracks man-made objects in orbit around Earth, confirmed the rocket's re-entry was on May 11th at around 11.33 a.m.
Initial reports claimed the spacecraft had plummeted into the ocean off Africa's west coast.
Now two villages in the Ivory Coast have reported finding what they believe to be debris from the fallen rocket stage, according to images posted to social media and reported in the French-language news organization Afrique Soir.
Jonathan McDowell, an astronomer at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, tweeted that the location of one fallen object, a nearly 40-foot-long pipe seen in a number of photos, wow, is directly on the CZ-5B reentry track.
Look at that thing.
Whoa, man.
lydia smith
Holy cow.
tim pool
Can you imagine getting hit by that?
adam crigler
Wait, hold on.
I got a question, though.
It seems like it wasn't close to New York.
It was on the west coast of Africa.
How is that... I mean, it's the Atlantic, but... Well, perhaps we haven't gotten to that part yet.
lydia smith
Oh, okay, okay.
adam crigler
So that's a different part of the rocket?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
Let's read it.
adam crigler
Go ahead.
tim pool
Yeah, hey, look.
They want to claim it nearly hit New York.
They better back this up.
unidentified
Yeah, let's go.
tim pool
While there's no official word on whether these pieces of debris are actually parts of the fallen rocket stage, it's looking more and more likely.
Lesina Zerbo, Executive Secretary of the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty Organization, tweeted May 12th that the International Monitoring System's Infrasound Network, primarily designed to detect nuclear blasts in the atmosphere, registered signals of debris traveling at supersonic speeds in the area.
What's the precedent here?
In 1991, the Soviet Salyut 7 space station tumbled back to Earth, breaking up over Argentina.
The Mir space station, which was decommissioned in 2001 and broke apart during a controlled re-entry above waters near Fiji, is the largest man-made object to re-enter Earth's atmosphere.
And NASA's Skylab space station famously pummeled a small Australian town in 1979.
Whoa.
Yikes, man.
adam crigler
I've never heard of that.
unidentified
Jeez.
tim pool
If the Long March 5B core stage landed Earth's atmosphere just 15 minutes earlier, chunks of it very likely could have fallen across New York City, Ars Technica reported.
But it isn't the first time China has played fast and loose with falling rocket parts.
In March, when China launched its Long March 3B rocket, a booster crash-landed downrange in the Guizhou province.
Late last year, another Long March 3B rocket ferried two satellites into orbit, but dropped sections of its boosters on a settlement near the launch site.
In 2018, yet another booster fell from the sky after the launch of a Long March 3B rocket and exploded just outside of a small town in the Guangxi province.
Witnesses posted stunning video clips of the fallen booster to social media.
In addition to smashing into the ground with unbelievable force, these boosters often still have traces of the toxic propellant hydrazine in them.
As tempting as it is, if one falls into your yard, don't try to get a closer look.
adam crigler
You think your yard would exist still if a 20-ton rocket fell into it? That's insane.
So they're saying 15 minutes earlier and it would have hit New York City.
tim pool
Yeah, but they just said, you know what, man?
They also said it may have hit.
That makes sense.
adam crigler
Narrowly missing New York City.
15 minutes.
I mean, that's all it takes.
tim pool
Or what, New Zealand?
adam crigler
It's flipping around.
Well, I mean, doesn't the International Space Station go around the globe in 90 minutes?
tim pool
I have no idea.
Is that it?
adam crigler
I think so, yeah.
I think they're flying at like 13,000 miles an hour.
So they go around the globe every 90 minutes, I'm pretty sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
So it would make sense, I guess.
tim pool
Makes sense.
adam crigler
So 15 minutes, they're in Africa.
15 minutes earlier, they're hitting New York City.
My question, though, what would have happened if it hit New York?
tim pool
War?
adam crigler
You think so?
tim pool
No, no.
I'm asking.
adam crigler
Ooh, sorry, a rocket just decimated one of your biggest cities.
tim pool
I don't think anybody would believe him.
That was an accident.
adam crigler
That's what I'm thinking.
tim pool
Man, think about, like, the damage you could do with an actual missile.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But think about how much more damage you'd do with just a giant...
100-foot, 20-town slab of steel and debris.
adam crigler
That's uncontrollably falling onto Earth.
tim pool
Slams into a building?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
That would just kill so many people.
adam crigler
Scary, man.
tim pool
It would streak across the city.
Wow, man, that would be nuts.
Remember we were talking about the tungsten rod being dropped from the satellite?
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Like, you don't need a chemical explosive.
You can just... We talked about this.
The G.I.
Joe movie, I think it was?
Where the satellite drops a tungsten rod and just wipes out London?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Okay, I don't think it would be that bad.
adam crigler
Who knows?
This is something that we've talked about in the past.
Like, oh yeah, when was that G.I.
Joe movie?
When did that come out?
That was a long time ago.
It was a long time ago.
Imagine, like, what they have nowadays.
tim pool
The tungsten rod thing has been, like, theorized for a long time, I guess.
Of, like, you know, just, like, firing a high-speed chunk of, like, very dense metal or whatever.
adam crigler
Have you seen, uh, Westworld?
tim pool
I've seen the first season and parts of the second season.
adam crigler
So, I just finished, no spoilers here, but I just finished the third season, and there's this scene where one of the main characters was in the army, right?
And he's doing some, some, he's, like, tagging someone with something.
He's got, like, this, uh, These glasses that let him like pinpoint someone and then
he's like yeah target acquired hit it And then it cuts to the satellite
And it just you see this missile to unlock and just go into space and then drop down out of space and hit this person
tim pool
And the explosions really small just the person just haven't you ever seen the drone strikes in like Palestine or
whatever?
adam crigler
I mean, I haven't seen these are cool videos of videos man Where you'll see like it's like black and white grainy
tim pool
footage, and they'll be like a box up here over a guy Yeah.
And then all of a sudden you'll see just like, boom, and the guy blows up.
adam crigler
Just one person.
tim pool
Just one person.
unidentified
It's insane.
lydia smith
It's amazing.
tim pool
Yeah, dude.
lydia smith
Holy cow.
tim pool
Hey man, look, the United States was like, we want to figure out how to kill somebody.
Only the one person.
adam crigler
Only the one person.
tim pool
From very far away.
Space.
We figured it out.
adam crigler
Space force.
unidentified
I love it.
tim pool
Drones, Reaper missiles, Hellfire, whatever they're called.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Yeah, so I wonder if If there's going to be anything coming from this, right?
Like, look, I know that we didn't get hit by it.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
But does this, you know, does Donald Trump then come out and be like, Chinese rockets, you're very dangerous.
Is there going to be a stern talking to, at the very least?
adam crigler
Yeah.
Or is it like the science community is like, sorry, our bad.
Ooh.
tim pool
The science community of China's?
adam crigler
Yeah, I don't know.
tim pool
I got a bad track record going on right now, man.
adam crigler
You got a good point.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So, I wonder, we probably have treaties for this stuff, though.
adam crigler
Yeah, probably.
tim pool
But I'll tell you what, man, you look at what China does, you look at how they, you know, with climate change, with carbon emissions, and like, they don't care.
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
Pollution, plastic waste, they don't care.
They're launching rockets, they don't care.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
You think anybody, any of these communist Chinese party people, you know what they're probably doing?
Some guy probably walked in and like, I have a very serious report.
One of our, you know, 20-ton rocket stages almost crashed in New York.
And then, like, some communist guy starts laughing.
Almost, huh?
Wow, that would've been funny.
adam crigler
Is there anything on that report that says it would've hit China?
unidentified
No?
adam crigler
Alright, well, why do we care?
Yeah, it's actually interesting, because in this article it says that they, it used to, like, here, go ahead, it used to hit, where am I at?
There we go.
lydia smith
There we go.
adam crigler
So their older ones, the 3B somewhere in here, it says that.
And it was falling and it was falling on China.
So they were hitting their own towns.
lydia smith
Very worried about this.
adam crigler
So they're like, man, we got to up our game and make the 5B rocket because then it'll go into orbit and we don't have to worry about it anymore.
That's what I'm seeing.
I mean, I'm just pointing it out.
Just pointing out what I'm seeing.
tim pool
My allergies are lighting my face on fire right now.
Just to be completely honest, I am...
adam crigler
Allergies sound terrible.
lydia smith
They're awful, dude.
tim pool
These trees, man!
adam crigler
Not so bad for me, but... I am so grateful I do not have allergies.
tim pool
We basically live in a forest.
lydia smith
Thanks.
tim pool
We basically live in a forest.
But another funny thing, you think China's hitting itself.
You think they care if they hit us?
adam crigler
No, they were hitting themselves.
unidentified
Right.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
They solved that problem.
adam crigler
That's the thing.
They're like, we need a 20 ton rocket now, and then we'll get our stuff all the way out
there and then we don't have to worry about it.
lydia smith
Further away from us.
I get it.
I just don't.
tim pool
Yeah, so some guy walks into the Communist Party meetings like, we have a serious problem.
Our rockets keep crash landing on our own cities.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
And then they, you know, draw some calculations, and now it's New Zealand, New York, and they're like, good job.
That guy got a promotion.
lydia smith
That's better.
unidentified
Good work.
adam crigler
He got a raise.
tim pool
Now it's not hitting us.
But there is more news on the China front.
So the question about responsibility is, it's an important one.
I know, you know, we're laughing.
We're having a good time.
Like, what if this 20-ton rocket stage just crashed in New York, killed thousands of people?
No, it's not funny, man.
adam crigler
No, it's not.
tim pool
China's been doing messed up stuff.
Think about this.
If they did something like this intentionally, and then just feign like, oh no, oh, it was an accident, oh yeah, whoa, no, we didn't know.
But what about the stuff they do know about, right?
adam crigler
Take a look at this story.
tim pool
U.S.
officials, Chinese hackers are targeting vaccine research.
So, I have talked about this before on my other channels, but look, we've got China doing a few things.
There's the I'll use the Simpsons joke.
There's subliminal, liminal, and superliminal.
Do you remember that joke?
No.
The guy was talking about how they get people to join the Navy, and then Lisa's like superliminal, and then he opens the window and he goes, hey you, join the Navy!
He just yells it out.
adam crigler
That's great.
tim pool
So China hires talent scholars or whatever, like talent scouts or something, and they secretly get money from the Chinese government, They lie about it to the Feds, they're not supposed to get this money, and they're not disclosing it to federal agencies that are paying them.
So it's basically U.S.
tax dollars funding this research, and then these people are giving that information to the Chinese government.
adam crigler
Well, selling it, wouldn't they be?
tim pool
Technically, right.
Because they're being paid to be in this program.
It's like, come on.
I wonder when these people are going to get charged with treason or something.
We have a cat on the table, by the way.
adam crigler
Go to the wide shot.
lydia smith
There we go.
unidentified
You can see it.
adam crigler
Cat butthole.
tim pool
He just decided to be on the show.
lydia smith
He's joining us.
tim pool
He's our guest.
That's the super liminal.
I mean, they're still hiding.
I'm being somewhat silly.
But then they do the disinformation, where they can still feign, oh, no, we didn't do anything wrong.
We were just telling our opinions.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
It's not us.
And then there's the overt hacking.
So that's why, look, man.
adam crigler
Is that what this is?
tim pool
Yeah, so they're trying to steal our vaccine research.
adam crigler
I mean, we know this.
They're actually trying to hack us right now.
tim pool
According to the US government.
That's what they're trying to do.
adam crigler
That's insane.
tim pool
I believe it.
lydia smith
So this doesn't surprise me at all.
Actually, hey, maybe you'll see the cat.
He's coming over this way.
He's trying to push the cup off the table.
So what really kind of surprised me about the rocket and them launching this rocket right now was that they have a little bit of a pandemic going on there right now.
And they're taking out time to work on a rocket and they're taking out time to target our vaccinations.
adam crigler
Well, we're working on our rockets too.
We're about to launch.
lydia smith
They managed to get one into space.
So the timing just caught me off guard a little bit.
I was like, what, what are they doing?
tim pool
I mean, we're still doing stuff, right?
lydia smith
True.
Technically correct.
tim pool
We're locked down.
adam crigler
Yeah, I mean, we're about to send, like, in a week, we're gonna send Americans into space.
tim pool
They just weld people's doors shut.
You know what I mean?
lydia smith
Yeah, it's very efficient.
tim pool
It's, like, hard for us.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
We got that dang old Constitution.
Not like these governors are respecting it or anything, but at least it's still there.
adam crigler
Well, at least the courts were on our side on that.
tim pool
On the side of the people.
It's crazy to me, it's like...
I don't know, man.
I think Rogan was asking me this, is like, over time, does society just become authoritarian?
Like, China's so old.
Like, as a culture, as a civilization.
Does it just happen that way?
America's young!
We're young rebellious!
It's like, think about it in terms of, like, an actual human.
You know?
We're like, teenagers compared to everybody else.
And we're like, romping around, we got guns and stuff, and rockets, and we're like, freedom!
unidentified
You can't tell me what to do!
adam crigler
Well, I gotta think about, well, what about, like, Europe?
I mean, granted, it was, it has changed a lot over the past, 200 years too, you know, but they're... No, you're right, man.
The more I think about it, it's like...
tim pool
Europe is a nightmare, bro.
Yeah.
adam crigler
They don't have free speech.
tim pool
No.
adam crigler
They're like super authoritarian.
tim pool
Not to the extent we do, yeah.
You're right.
Yeah, it just depends on where in Europe I are.
But they're like very, very like...
You know what I think it is?
I think that's the right assessment.
I think what happens is people defer to safety always.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Always, always.
So when you get a really, really old civilization, they keep saying it's for your safety over and over again.
People just say, okay.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And then they get used to it, right?
So, right now everyone's saying, like, could you imagine if we had to get, like, some kind of tattoo to track us?
Bro, I know it sounds bad, but let me tell you something.
Two generations, nobody would care.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You'd be born with a tattoo, and you'd get it updated every couple years.
adam crigler
and people would be like oh make sure to scan your barcode when you're you know entering the building yeah like we have we have id cards passports social security numbers we have all of these how about like uh uh what is the movie minority report where they walk into the subway and they look at the scanner it's like boop gets their eyes irises boop Welcome, John Anderton.
tim pool
They figured out a way around that.
It's called a cell phone.
So, basically the way it works.
adam crigler
Now they know everything and everywhere you go.
tim pool
Dude, Facebook knows when you poop.
Facebook knows when you poop.
adam crigler
I don't have Facebook on my phone.
tim pool
It doesn't matter.
adam crigler
Well, how did they know then?
unidentified
Bro.
adam crigler
Facebook's not on my phone.
I never got it on my phone.
unidentified
So what?
tim pool
Doesn't matter.
How do they have access to my phone?
Does anyone in your family have Facebook?
adam crigler
Probably.
tim pool
Boom.
Done.
adam crigler
How would they know when I poop though?
When you text... Please, give me the logic.
tim pool
When you text and communicate with... I don't communicate with others.
With your family?
adam crigler
No.
Never.
tim pool
Yes you do.
So here's how, so Facebook has a thing called shadow profiles.
So you have a Facebook profile, you also have a shadow profile, and Facebook accidentally released this one day, like a glitch.
adam crigler
On accident?
tim pool
Yeah.
And people saw their shadow profiles, and it's got crazy stuff in there.
Facebook can predict what you will eat.
adam crigler
That sounds like Westworld more!
See, now I would be spoiling, so I'm not gonna say anything, but man.
tim pool
It's what people need to realize.
adam crigler
Oh, man.
tim pool
Let's say you don't have a Facebook account.
You do have a Facebook profile.
Let's say you... No.
No, Tim.
I've never signed up for Facebook.
You still have a Facebook profile.
It's very simple.
adam crigler
Yeah, profile.
Right.
What does a profile do?
tim pool
With all your information.
Right.
So, check this out.
Your mom, your dad, your brother, your sister, your girlfriend, whatever, they all have you saved in their phones as Adam, son, boyfriend, husband, whatever, right?
When they download the Facebook app, which is by default on Android phones and can't be deleted.
adam crigler
Seriously?
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Oh, geez.
tim pool
So, do you have an Android?
adam crigler
No, I don't.
tim pool
Oh, you're lucky.
You might still have Facebook on it.
So, what happens is, when they open the messenger, it says, would you like to sync your contacts?
Facebook gets access to all of the contact list of everyone who knows you, and then here's what they find out.
They know who your mom is, they know who your significant other is, who your best friend is, they can tell based on the frequency of like messages and things like that.
Now if you actually use the apps, that's when they can really predict your behavior.
adam crigler
I want someone's email at Facebook so I can email them when I'm actually pooping.
Be like, hey Facebook, I'm pooping.
lydia smith
Just so you know.
adam crigler
Just so you have a new record.
tim pool
No, no, no, you don't understand.
You're gonna draft the email and you're gonna be like, I'll show them.
And then your phone's gonna go brrp and you're gonna go, wait what?
And it's gonna be like, we know Adam, you don't need to email us.
I'm not kidding, I'm not kidding.
adam crigler
Before I hit send.
tim pool
Before you hit send.
So, I was reading this crazy thing that said, basically, they know where people will eat and what time they will eat because they can start predicting based on when your break time is.
So, here's what they know.
From the hours of 8.55 until 11.34, your phone doesn't move.
Then, it travels three blocks, you know, north to a shopping center.
For, you know, 15 minutes, comes back, and then stops moving again.
Guess what?
They know it's most likely your lunch break and you went to go eat.
So they also know based on the things you say, and what time it is,
when you're going to go to eat and where you will likely eat.
Man, I tell you, there was a, um, this, this test thing that they had a long time ago,
I think it was called like the Spark or something, it was a website.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And they created these tests where they could predict things about you, where it would be like, we can prove whether or not you're like a man or a woman, or whether you're white or not white.
And they would ask you questions that seemingly made no sense.
It would be like, which would you prefer?
And then it would show you weird shapes.
You'd be like, I don't know, and you just click one, right?
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And then at the end, they would tell you, for some reason, white men click this shape and white women click that shape.
We don't know why.
adam crigler
I want to take this test.
tim pool
It's old.
It's from the 90s, man.
It's like late 90s research stuff.
adam crigler
See how I compare.
tim pool
But there still is a lot of stuff like that, like Jonathan Haidt's research, which does moral foundations testing and stuff like that.
So you can see where you are politically, do you believe in liberty and stuff.
adam crigler
Is that the one I did like a couple?
tim pool
No, that was a political compass test.
adam crigler
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
But anyway, the main point is Facebook can predict when you will poop based on when you eat.
adam crigler
What are they selling that info to?
tim pool
Toilet paper companies?
adam crigler
No, for real.
Toilet paper companies.
tim pool
Think about it.
adam crigler
I think they're doing all right in this pandemic.
tim pool
Listen, toilet paper advertiser says we want to maximize sales.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Facebook says we know when to show your ad for maximum effect.
Think about it.
adam crigler
Like, on Instagram, like, oh yeah, here, definitely during these times, more people poop.
tim pool
And then look, you'll get an ad, and it'll be like, Scratchy bum, you need double quilted.
Bro, what are you doing?
And you're gonna be like, dude, I do need it.
For real.
Dude, I have bought a ton of stuff off of Instagram.
adam crigler
Toilet paper?
tim pool
Not toilet paper.
This lamp?
This lamp?
adam crigler
Yep.
they knew that with the alien and with the original wanted was the original one from the incident is one night one
none of the original the starry night on a lot of that was uh...
tim pool
friend of mine uh... was like
adam crigler
but over there somewhere you get that i don't know if you're not you can see it
lydia smith
many of the shots so unfortunately it's little it's tiny tiny tiny
tim pool
so think about what all of these other networks now Google probably knows a lot, too.
And people don't realize, like, we talk about, like, we can't let them, you know, chip us, right?
It's like, bro, you bought your chip.
You begged for an upgrade.
You were like, bro, upgrade my chip, please.
You know, it's funny, I was listening to Rogan, and they were talking about this conspiracy theory, and I really do mean it, where people think their phones are listening to them.
adam crigler
They are, aren't they?
tim pool
No.
adam crigler
Oh, they're not?
It's just algorithms?
tim pool
Well, it depends, right?
So there's actually some truth to this.
Smart devices always have the microphones on because they have voice activation.
adam crigler
Oh, right.
tim pool
So they are listening to you.
But when Facebook delivers an ad to you and you were talking about it, it's not because they were listening to you.
It's because they know everything about you and can predict your behavior.
It's worse than you realize.
adam crigler
It's way worse.
That is worse.
tim pool
I remember I went to Walmart and they had a sale on TVs.
And we were walking through the aisle, and the TVs were in the middle of the aisle, on discount or whatever, and it was a big TV, and I was like, that's a good idea.
It was 300 bucks.
And I'm like, it's a widescreen TV, we don't have a TV.
The TV broke.
I'll grab it.
So we call the guy over, he puts in the cart.
When I got home, I went on Facebook, and there was an ad showing what appeared to be that exact same TV on the stand in the middle, and I was like, what's going on?
This is crazy.
adam crigler
Interesting.
tim pool
But it wasn't because they were listening to me.
It was because they knew I went to Walmart.
They knew that I was, you know, a 32-year-old male.
lydia smith
That makes sense.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
That's the demographic.
So they predicted I would probably, you know, want this TV.
They were right.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
You know what the most annoying thing about all that is, though?
adam crigler
No, I don't.
Why don't you tell me?
tim pool
You ever get an advertisement for something you already bought?
lydia smith
Yep.
adam crigler
Like you just explained.
tim pool
But right, but like even worse, like you go to Amazon, and you'll be like, I need some, you know, double-quilted TP, bro.
And then you buy it, and then all of a sudden you go to a website and you see all these ads for double-quilted.
You're like, dude, I already ordered it!
Why are you advertising this to me?
lydia smith
Okay, something like toilet paper you keep getting.
tim pool
Yeah, but like right af- okay.
Forget toilet paper.
adam crigler
Let's say, let's say you order a fancy new... I think the TV summed it up right there.
tim pool
Pro, pro tech deck.
Let's say, let's say you get the fancy tech deck with the fancy little... Are those pro?
This, this is the, I just put the grip tape on a regular one because I don't, I don't like, yeah, these are the pro ones.
These are like, we had to build these.
adam crigler
Although you said that they're not that good though.
tim pool
I don't like it.
I don't.
No, not this one specifically.
There's, there's better ones.
adam crigler
It's pretty legit though.
unidentified
It's wood.
tim pool
It is, but the pop is bad.
adam crigler
I mean, I don't know how to even pop these things.
tim pool
Yeah, nah.
They're good fun.
But, uh, I ordered some better ones with better grip with bigger noses and tails.
Anyway, the point is, I bought it already.
I don't need any more.
unidentified
I've got it.
tim pool
Look, it's a tech deck.
Well, it's not tech, it's a fingerboard.
Why are they advertising them to me?
adam crigler
Because you're not happy with those.
tim pool
You know what's funny?
adam crigler
You said it, right?
You said they don't have enough pop?
You want something better?
Maybe they know.
They know you so well.
tim pool
But they're advertising the ones I don't want.
adam crigler
Oh, the same ones?
Yes!
Oh, okay.
tim pool
That's the point.
I'll let everybody in on a secret.
When you're watching my videos, look at the advertisements when I'm reading news stories, and you'll know what we're doing.
So there's been a few videos where it's like, the ads are for B&H and for camera equipment and tripods.
It's because we're setting up the new show.
lydia smith
Yeah, I took a screenshot of one of your videos one time and I was like, look what Tim has for his ads.
He has skateboards, he has skate shoes and he had, I forget what else you had, almost like beanies or something.
adam crigler
Skate ramps was on there for a while.
We were doing segments and I kept seeing the skate block that you ordered and I'm like, What?
tim pool
You know where I was just skating that earlier and then and then if those are listening if you're watching
Watching what the ads are you can then like comment be like how's the new the new skate box Tim?
adam crigler
Well, I mean is it an ad for something that you already got or something that you're probably gonna buy
tim pool
So there's a company called there's two companies There's OC Ramps and there's Keen Ramps.
And I think, I'm pretty sure the mini ramp we have is Keen.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So it's good.
adam crigler
It's a good ramp.
tim pool
It's really good.
And so I just ordered another smaller one for like practice.
adam crigler
Is it from Keen also?
tim pool
Yes.
adam crigler
Nice.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure it is.
adam crigler
I've seen that little ramp actually.
They did a giveaway like a week ago or something.
tim pool
On Instagram.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
The lockdown's jamming up delivery, but yeah.
When you see the ads, it'll be an ad for the whole company.
So you'll see a grind rail.
You won't know exactly what it is that I bought.
But I think it's really funny because I was looking at the price of gold and silver once, and then all of a sudden all the ads were for gold and silver.
And I'm like, I wonder if people are going to catch this.
adam crigler
You know, I've actually thought that multiple times, and not one person has asked us, like, hey, about the ads.
It feels like people are, well, thankfully, they're probably listening to what we're talking about.
lydia smith
Hopefully, yeah, right.
tim pool
You know, not analyzing everything.
Well, I think a lot of people are just listening, too.
lydia smith
Yeah, like while they're doing stuff, that makes sense.
tim pool
So, well, actually, let me ask you guys.
Good thing or bad thing?
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
that the computers know what you want before you even know what you want.
adam crigler
Well, I mean, I don't want to see ads for...
I can't think of random things that I would never buy or never even...
I don't know, it's...
Is it a good thing?
Is it a bad thing?
It's just a thing.
I don't know.
tim pool
What do you think?
lydia smith
I think it tends to be, based on whatever you're looking at, it could be good or bad.
adam crigler
I don't know.
It's the same thing.
lydia smith
It's kind of neutral.
tim pool
My question is, if you were sitting here one day and an ad popped up for this UFO thing and you were like, I want that, would you be happy?
And then you bought it.
Like, I bought that.
I saw an ad on Instagram and I was like, I would like to buy that.
lydia smith
Full disclosure, I do that all the time.
tim pool
So it's a good thing.
lydia smith
Yeah, works for me.
adam crigler
I don't know.
Every single time anyone has ever told... I've never bought anything off Instagram.
In fact, when Facebook first bought Instagram, the ads were just insane.
And I would report every single ad for being trash.
To the point of, I would go on Instagram to block ads.
And I was like, what am I even doing on Instagram?
And I kind of stopped Instagramming for a while.
But now it's to the point where anyone's like, oh, yeah, I got this thing on Instagram.
And I just all I can think is just there's a little like giggle, like sucker.
Half the stuff is made in China.
Half of it's POSs.
I mean, actually more way more than half.
There's a lot of it that I'm just like, that's just going to be trash one day.
tim pool
I bet this is made in China.
adam crigler
I mean, sure, that UFO has.
We've had a lot of fun on the show with the UFO.
When it stops spinning, everyone starts like saying, Spin the UFO!
It's been great.
It's part of the show, so for us, it does make sense.
There you go.
Spin that UFO.
unidentified
There we go.
adam crigler
Spin!
Spin Well, look at the cool thing we got!
tim pool
It's levitating!
lydia smith
It's amazing!
tim pool
It's sure floating!
adam crigler
Yeah, sure, it's cool.
tim pool
That's cool.
Yeah, cool.
Cool, dude.
It's like anti-gravity, man.
adam crigler
Great.
lydia smith
It's very cool.
tim pool
It's a bad thing when they're advertising things you already bought.
That's stupid.
But think about this, like, okay, so we often project Our current technological state to the future.
adam crigler
Yeah, okay.
tim pool
So instead of thinking about, well we can't, we can't predict for the most part.
So we take things we already have and we exaggerate them, right?
So a good example is Back to the Future.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
He goes to the future, it's 20, what was it, 2015?
Yeah.
And his shoes tied themselves.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Or whatever it is, like clothes shrank.
It's like, it's an exaggeration of what already existed.
There's a really funny graphic that I remember seeing once, where it was like in the year 1900, what they thought the year 2000 would be like.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And it was firefighters with mechanical wings flying.
Like, because it was a technology they had, but they were like, what if it was better?
So we can't make that same mistake.
So, you know, I'm thinking about what's the logical conclusion of these weird AI advertisement stuff?
And the assumption is we live in a world where before you even think you want it, it's delivered to you.
Like, you're sitting there and you're like, man, I'm hungry.
Like, before you even say you want it, it's like eggs, just like, you know, a robot comes in and drops eggs, fried eggs.
lydia smith
Right, it's been like a certain amount of time, so you're probably gonna be hungry.
adam crigler
No plate, just drop it right on the table.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, served up right for you.
It's like, your chair brings you to the bathroom before you even know you have to go, and you're like, I don't have to, oh.
lydia smith
Oh, I do!
unidentified
Oh, hey, look!
adam crigler
The turtle's peaking, poking his head out!
tim pool
And then eventually we're just like, we're just like, we don't move, we're sitting in chairs.
lydia smith
Like in WALL-E.
adam crigler
Yeah, WALL-E world.
tim pool
Exactly, exactly.
lydia smith
Oh, that's such a great movie.
tim pool
But I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I don't think so because that's projecting, right?
adam crigler
Yeah, it is.
tim pool
There was, I don't know if you saw the story, there was some crazy story about how we've discovered a way to reverse aging by like 54% or something.
What?
adam crigler
Really?
unidentified
54%?
tim pool
They did some kind of plasma transfusion between mice and found like ridiculous aging reversal.
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
So it's not peer-reviewed yet.
So this is new?
Yeah, it's new.
I was reading some report from this guy on Twitter, some PhD guy, and he's like, this looks legit.
The goal now is to figure out what in young plasma is causing cellular repair, and then you get a pill, you get an injection, and then you'd basically be like 28 forever.
lydia smith
That sounds good.
tim pool
So that's, I bring that up.
adam crigler
And also frightening.
lydia smith
Maybe a little, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, dude.
Watching Altered Carbon.
adam crigler
Yeah, man.
tim pool
Nah, I'm not, I'm not.
adam crigler
The rich just keep getting richer and stay the same age?
Nah.
tim pool
The question, I guess, is.
adam crigler
Scary, dude.
tim pool
I was watching this thing about immortality.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And they said, the only reason we actually think immortality is a bad thing is because we age.
And so somebody who's 60 or 70 who has chronic health problems is like, immortality sucks.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Because we know that's in our future, most of us would say the same thing.
adam crigler
Alright.
tim pool
But there was a- the argument- If we could stay at our peak- If you could stay 28 years old- Yeah.
Then most people would prefer to stay 28 forever.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Even if it meant, like, at 100 you would die, but if you were immortal, it's like being young forever.
You're healthy, you're fine, you just want to keep living.
adam crigler
Hm.
tim pool
I think it's a bad thing, though.
At least for now.
adam crigler
But- Yeah, there's too much greed in the world.
tim pool
It's not about the greed.
It's about human development.
adam crigler
Okay.
Well, what is stopping it from being what you would want it to be?
Greed.
tim pool
You know what, man?
It's a sad reality, but people die, and it's a good thing.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
In terms of like, we pass on our knowledge and our secrets to our youth, who then get a new chance at experiencing the world, and developing things and shaping things the way they see it, and we pass on.
So it's like, we get our time here, To learn, develop, grow, make the changes we think, and then we pass that information down, and that causes evolution and development and, you know.
lydia smith
Yeah, we need boundaries.
tim pool
Think about it this way.
Imagine if a scientist from, you know, who was born in the 1700s was alive today.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
He'd probably accept a bunch of things as true, but he'd have so many ingrained falsehoods.
So it's like, I was reading about the discovery of like, I think it was special relativity, or maybe the Big Bang.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And there's always a group of scientists that reject the newer theories and really, really put scrutiny, you know, scrutinize it.
I was talking to this physicist guy about M-theory, which is like, it's like, I'm not super familiar with it, but a unified theory, I guess, like a theory of the universe, theory of everything.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And there's this guy named, I think his name is Garrett Lisey, who has the extremely simple
theory of everything.
This is all really old stuff.
It's probably changed a whole lot.
But I was talking to this physicist who said there's a problem in physics in that these
scientists have dedicated their whole lives to this theory.
So that if it turns out it's wrong, their whole life, their work, their legacy is wrong.
adam crigler
Or they spent their entire life to figure out that it was wrong.
tim pool
They don't see it that way.
Think about it this way.
adam crigler
I don't see it that way.
tim pool
Like, think about it this way.
Like, you spend, you know, 10 years building this very beautiful, like, model house.
And then, all of a sudden, one day, it falls apart.
You didn't spend 10 years to figure out that the final touch would collapse.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
You were trying to build this beautiful house and now you're like,
everything I've built has been, you know, for nothing.
Okay.
So they reject it.
It's not even about whether or not they could accept they were wrong and be like,
I have successfully proven it false.
Some people do.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's about them resisting and being like, I don't believe that.
I don't believe.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
adam crigler
That's them losing the science part of it and it becoming like an emotional investment.
Right.
You know, like part of their fundamentals, you know, and it's like when you start off as a scientist, science, you know, it's all about changing and learning and testing and figuring out what works.
So if you can't see that it works and it takes you 30 years to figure out that it doesn't work, Then you're the scientist that did it, and if that's not what you're focused on, then it's a fundamental issue with the human that is the scientist.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
It is.
tim pool
It's a human problem.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
That's why I'm saying, you know, somebody develops a theory, then, you know, they retire, they die, they've had their time on Earth, and then the younger person, who is less invested, says, hey, wait a minute.
This right here disproves that!
unidentified
Whoa!
tim pool
And now they develop and then less attachments.
So I'd imagine if humans were immortal and didn't die, then there would be cultural artifacts that would persist that are detrimental, that make no sense, that maybe made sense at a certain point don't make sense now.
adam crigler
kind of shining a light on how vulnerable we actually really are because imagine if all the drugs in the world and I mean drugs like vaccines and everything we have to fight any ailment that the human body goes through like what if it all went away how many people would actually die then you know how many of us are actually strong enough to survive at that point you know because we're keeping humans alive for so long now right I mean it's That's a tough question, man.
It's kind of crazy.
Are we getting stronger or are we getting weaker?
We're kind of fending off death with our man-made stuff, right?
tim pool
That's some dangerous thinking there, Adam.
That's to stick to your work and keep your mouth shut.
adam crigler
That's what this is making me think of.
You were talking about us getting stronger and passing on our stuff, but we're not passing on our immunities.
tim pool
We're passing on the drug that Just kills the virus that would have killed us that we don't have immunity to anymore We've got we've got a serious conundrum in our in in civilization Yeah, and that's you know, there's very there.
Do you know what Fermi's paradox is?
adam crigler
I feel like we've talked about it a couple times, probably.
Which one of the paradoxes is it?
tim pool
Well, it's the question of, if the universe is so big, why haven't we discovered alien life?
I'm simplifying it.
But one of them, I think, is that... Or that there's definitely life out there.
adam crigler
That's what it's basically saying.
tim pool
The paradox is, in all likelihood, there is.
So why haven't we found them?
And there's a bunch of proposed answers.
I think one of them is very simple.
We evolve in a way to survive.
But once we've conquered our survival, then these things actually become extremely detrimental.
When you have ten people living in the wilderness together, doing everything in our power to save someone's life is crucial to the success of the tribe.
When you have 7.6 billion people doing everything to ensure that literally everyone survives, becomes eventually detrimental in certain ways.
So we see the persistence of genetic diseases that, you know, we've basically separated ourselves from this.
Now, we're smart enough to actually get rid of some of these diseases and start improving us, so I don't know if it's necessarily pro or con in many aspects.
But I think it is true that we're at a weird point where it is an ethical, moral conundrum when you have people who provide nothing to the greater society in terms of survivability actually become net detriments to it.
adam crigler
In a lot of cases, they have no choice.
The people?
Yeah, the people.
Not everyone has even the chance or ever will have the chance to help society further itself because society is insane.
tim pool
It's huge.
unidentified
Are you alive?
tim pool
You know what I mean?
Like, so... It's a conundrum of... If we were a tribe of 30 people, and there was someone who was, like, a vegetable... Like, people would... Like, in a coma?
Like, totally brain-dead.
Yeah, what are they gonna do?
adam crigler
I don't know, because there could be historical... If we were a tribe in the middle of the woods, they would probably die.
tim pool
You can't feed them.
adam crigler
Right, they would die.
tim pool
So we've invented technology to provide nutrients to sustain someone who's literally just consuming resources and energy, because we have a moral obligation to protect life.
That's a challenge.
It is.
Because I certainly think we should save the lives.
You know what I mean?
Let's talk about the money.
adam crigler
I mean, who's we?
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
You said we got the money.
It's like, but then that hospital that say it costs $50,000 to keep someone on a respirator and being fed catheter system, what all the whole, go ahead.
You definitely want to say something right now.
Go.
lydia smith
What better use of public funds as moral people do we have than taking care of people who can't take care of themselves through no fault of their own?
adam crigler
I know, it's so easy to say that, but that is not the way it is.
lydia smith
Yeah, I know, it's in the perfect world.
adam crigler
Right?
We spend more money killing, figuring out ways to kill people.
tim pool
What happens when the Xenotaxans come from the Galactic Federation and start firebombing our oil fields and now we're like, we need hospital beds for the wounded.
What do we do?
lydia smith
You got triage.
tim pool
Do we kick those people out of the hospitals?
lydia smith
Yeah, you would have to.
tim pool
That's the point I'm making.
So it's like, right now... At peace, yeah?
We have a moral obligation to save all life.
So there are some people who have never had a thought in their lives.
It's true.
And I know some people who have family members who were born with severe mental disabilities, don't speak, are considered to be essentially comatose or severely developmentally disabled.
And they're legally obligated and morally obligated to do everything they can to save this life.
And I agree.
But I also recognize the potential philosophical conundrum.
I guess when it comes to a real conflict, we're not going to provide resources for these people.
adam crigler
We're already there, aren't we?
didn't we have like the do not resuscitate orders the people the doctors that were like that person's dead this person's more important yeah save them instead of them well that's just that happened in italy that happened here right but it's already happened yeah so we're already past that point The craziest thing about it is that most of our hospitals weren't overrun.
Right, that's what I'm hearing.
tim pool
It was key hospitals that were overrun.
And so that resulted in them being like, this hospital, we can't do it.
So you die.
Yeah, what do you do, man?
What do you do?
adam crigler
I don't know.
I'm glad I was not a doctor in that situation, that I had to make that choice.
tim pool
When you go too far to the extremes, you end up with no good answer, right?
You go full fascist and they're like, unplug them!
And you go too far left and they're like, don't unplug them and don't provide resources to those who truly need it.
It's like logic versus emotion, I guess.
And man, it's tough.
If you lose your emotion, you become a robot.
Nobody wants to be the Borg.
But if you lose your logic, you become just like, you collapse.
You can't function properly.
adam crigler
Yep.
Oh, man.
tim pool
So I guess somehow we got into this conversation talking about immortality.
adam crigler
Yeah, how did we get here?
tim pool
Because I was talking about like scientific development or something.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And we're talking about immortality.
lydia smith
That's great.
That's fun.
I like that.
adam crigler
That's fun.
That was great.
It was deep questions.
You're just hitting them up, though.
That's nice.
tim pool
So here's my question.
Would you take immortality?
If the vampire Lestat walked in right now, and it was literally Tom Cruise... Absolutely.
adam crigler
No hesitation.
That was a great book, by the way.
unidentified
The book?
tim pool
I've seen the movie.
unidentified
Lestat.
adam crigler
The book, Lestat.
tim pool
Oh, Lestat.
I've seen an interview with a vampire.
adam crigler
Also a good book.
tim pool
Vampire thing aside, that's silly, but yeah, would you take immortality?
adam crigler
Man, I don't know.
I mean, I would want to say yes, because I would love to see the civilization in the future where we colonize this whole solar system, travel around, go to the different planets, see it all.
I mean, I think about Star Trek was one of my favorite shows.
When you asked me, If I would want to be immortal, the first thing I'd think of is, oh man, I could travel the stars then.
I can actually travel the universe and not have to worry about dying.
tim pool
But are we talking about biological immortality where you just don't age?
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Or like you're Wolverine, invincible, you know, regenerating and you can't, literally can't die.
adam crigler
I'll take that.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
That sounds good too.
tim pool
What happened to the heat death of the universe, man?
Life won't last forever.
You'll be just floating around in all pure blackness.
adam crigler
I mean, didn't, didn't Wolverine die?
tim pool
Well, but yeah, but I'm talking about... Eventually.
adam crigler
Spoiler, I guess, from Logan.
Didn't he though?
I don't actually remember, did he or not?
tim pool
I'm using him as just like an example.
adam crigler
What I mean is... I will become immortal if I have the choice to kill myself eventually.
tim pool
That's what I was gonna say.
unidentified
Boom.
tim pool
I'd say yes.
adam crigler
How about now?
tim pool
Because then I'd be like, 100 years from now, I'd be like, that was fun, seppuku!
lydia smith
What a way to go.
It's like Korean.
adam crigler
It's like, actually you have to slice off your left ankle.
unidentified
What?
I don't think I can do that.
tim pool
Like the one weakness is your Achilles heel.
It's like, well, it's time to go.
Let me get that.
lydia smith
Yep, that's it.
adam crigler
Just flick it.
Well, you could be a skateboarder.
tim pool
But hold on, man.
adam crigler
My ankles are screaming.
tim pool
You're very idealistic.
Maybe I am.
Because what if the future isn't we explore the stars?
It's a bunch of SJWs start locking people in gulags.
adam crigler
What was it?
Hair Carry?
tim pool
What?
adam crigler
Harry Carrey?
Isn't that another term for it?
tim pool
Harry Carrey?
Harry Carrey is the guy from the Cubs?
unidentified
No, no, no.
adam crigler
It sounds the same.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't know.
I don't know.
Seppuku?
Harry Carrey?
Harry Carrey was the guy who talked like this.
And he was like a Cubs announcer.
adam crigler
Also, what was that?
lydia smith
It's Seppuku.
It is the same thing.
It's a similar, like, suicidal thing.
Harry Carrey?
Yeah, it's spelled H-A-R-I-K-A-R-I.
Oh, excuse me.
unidentified
Yeah, excuse me.
adam crigler
You're from Chicago.
So of course, I know, but funny thing is, I'm from Chicago, too.
So whenever I say it, I think of him doing it.
unidentified
That's not, that's brutal.
I know!
This makes no sense.
adam crigler
Yeah, but I loved him, man.
He was hilarious.
I went and saw him a bunch.
He's the announcer for the Cubs.
Was.
Well, he was.
tim pool
Rest his soul.
adam crigler
For many, many years in Wrigley Field in Chicago.
So, us growing up in Chicago, like, we think Harry Caray, and it's just like, I'm Harry Caray!
He spoke like this!
He's a funny guy.
tim pool
You know what, man?
Let me ask you another question.
adam crigler
Oh, please.
I love these deep questions.
tim pool
What if they couldn't preserve your body, but they could preserve your consciousness digitally?
lydia smith
In a stack?
tim pool
No, no, like in a virtual... Yeah, basically like in a stack and alter carbon.
No, no, Black Mirror.
lydia smith
Oh, okay.
tim pool
I don't know what... It's when they go to retire.
They're like 80.
They download their brains into a server where all of a sudden they're in their 20s and they're in digital retirement episodes.
adam crigler
Oh, yeah, I did see that episode.
tim pool
And now you're young and you're partying and you're like... Doing whatever you want forever?
Yeah.
adam crigler
I mean, it sounds good.
I don't know.
I mean, do I have any say, or can anyone have any say on the outside world?
Or once you're in there, you're like, cut off?
tim pool
I guess, well, no.
adam crigler
Because that's a big difference.
tim pool
Like, you can still communicate with people because they come visit you.
They can come in, hang out on the server.
adam crigler
Interesting.
Was there a Futurama episode?
I'm surprised you didn't go Futurama with that.
tim pool
Uh, no, the Futurama one I think is they're, like, just comatose or something.
They're, like, in a library of retirement where they're, like, plugged in.
No, I think that's what it is.
I think they're in a virtual world.
adam crigler
Yeah, it is a virtual world.
tim pool
Yeah, but the Black Mirror one was, that's a show, right?
adam crigler
More spot on, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, because, yeah, Juniper?
lydia smith
Yeah, San Juniper or something?
Yeah, something like that.
tim pool
Yeah, they're, like, partying and stuff, and they're, like, young forever.
I think it'd be weird because you'd have, like, one server that's the 19—like, people born in the 1920s.
Yeah.
And they're, like, all super racist and, like, very, like, traditional.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And so then you wouldn't mix the people who were born in the 70s who are all, like, you know— Hippies, hippies.
adam crigler
Yeah, okay.
tim pool
No, born in the 70s are not hippies!
lydia smith
Born in the 70s, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Children of hippies.
lydia smith
Gen Xers.
adam crigler
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
I know a lot of... I have a lot of older cousins that were born in the 70s.
They were definitely hippies.
lydia smith
Oh, were they?
adam crigler
Yes, definitely.
What I'm saying is... Well, their parents were hippies, too, so it kind of... Boomers were hippies.
tim pool
The people born in the 50s who were late teenagers in the 70s were hippies.
I read something crazy.
I read that Woodstock, there was a pandemic during Woodstock.
lydia smith
What, really?
tim pool
Yeah, flu pandemic.
adam crigler
Oh, wow.
tim pool
Yeah, and they're like, nobody cared.
They're like, it's because it only affected older people.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And so the question was then, it's like, I think this was like some economic council.
They were like, if that's the case, man, we've, I don't think they made this argument, but it's kind of like, we prioritize safety.
adam crigler
Isn't that kind of what's going, what we're finding out about COVID?
It's kind of, it's killing all these older folk that were already at risk.
If they've gotten the flu, they probably would have died also.
tim pool
People with no vitamin D. Yeah.
adam crigler
Get outside, get some sunshine more often.
tim pool
But they're telling you to stay inside.
adam crigler
And now there's this whole thing about like kids are, there's this new thing that's going around.
tim pool
Inflammatory syndrome.
adam crigler
It sounds like a scare tactic, honestly.
tim pool
It does, man.
adam crigler
It sounds like they're trying to scare people to continue on.
Look at South Dakota.
Yeah, nothing happened, right?
tim pool
Nothing happened.
So, for those that don't know, South Dakota never locked down, and the media attacked them relentlessly, and then they still refused, and now it's three weeks on from when they were being attacked.
The media was like, South Dakota, the new hot spot.
Three weeks later, nothing.
adam crigler
And, of course, they're not talking about it.
lydia smith
Right, they don't talk about that part.
adam crigler
It's like, no, no, no, no, don't talk about it.
tim pool
Meanwhile, Los Angeles is like, we must lock down indefinitely until there's a cure for a virus?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
What are you talking about?
adam crigler
And no wonder that the Republican just won in California, didn't they, or something?
unidentified
I don't know exactly what went down, but... 25th district.
tim pool
This is a good opportunity to talk about the next segment.
lydia smith
Let's do it.
adam crigler
This.
tim pool
YouTube CEO.
Users don't like authoritative mainstream media, but we boost them anyway.
All right, the first thing you have to do if you're listening to this.
adam crigler
I have to laugh, I have to.
tim pool
Like the video, hit the like button, subscribe, notification bell, and then share this.
lydia smith
Before they shut us down?
tim pool
Because no, it's gonna get good.
I got some, I'm gonna drag some of these lefty journalists who are angry that people can share YouTube links.
lydia smith
That's amazing.
adam crigler
Why would they be mad, though?
tim pool
Because they can't control the narrative.
lydia smith
Yeah, dude.
adam crigler
Oh, right, okay, okay.
tim pool
This is nuts, check it out.
We know this, we know that nobody likes these videos.
Listen.
Look up CNN or any one of these, you know CBS or Fox or whatever their videos are boring Nobody wants to watch them.
They all have thumbs down and they get like 10,000 views if that And then you go to my channel, it's like my video's got like 300, 400,000 views, and I'm like, people are choosing my content when presented.
They're not choosing CBS, ABC, NBC, et cetera.
But because YouTube is propping these channels up, they're getting hundreds of millions of views.
You know how much money that is?
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
Bonkers.
adam crigler
Lots of money.
tim pool
Lots and lots of money.
Let me think real quick.
Let's see, I think CNN is probably getting probably a million bucks a month, low estimate.
adam crigler
From YouTube alone.
tim pool
And that's off taking clips from their shows and just uploading them without question.
Without even trying to engage with YouTube.
And because YouTube is putting them up.
Think about how much money YouTube would actually make if they chose to show real independent creators that actually get the engagement.
They don't care though.
Because they're scared of these media outlets.
They're scared of people at BuzzFeed.
And yes, I'll give Ryan Broderick the credit.
They're scared of people like Ryan Broderick.
This dude who... I'm not sure if I've ever met him, but he really has this thing for no matter what happens...
He's got to call it a problem.
adam crigler
Okay.
Check this out.
tim pool
You may have seen Plandemic.
I'm not a big fan.
I'm not a big fan because I think it's an interview with one person who may or may not be correct.
I understand she's a doctor, so I can only defer to the experts.
But there's a lot of things they could have done better.
And, you know, hey, it is what it is.
But YouTube shouldn't have removed it because they took away any opportunity for debate and challenging of the idea.
It's the stupidest thing they could have done.
Check this out.
Let me show you the Casey Newton tweet first.
He says, I wrote about how Plandemic went viral.
Facebook groups linking to YouTube driving tremendous attention in a short amount of
time.
And, that's just literally the internet.
What's the issue?
lydia smith
Check it out.
tim pool
Ryan says, YouTube knows this is a problem.
In April, I reached out about the absurd traffic that YouTube videos were getting on Facebook, particularly in groups.
They told me, the video was not recommended by our systems.
The majority of the traffic and views come from external sites.
A problem?
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
What problem?
That someone can share a link?
Last May, last year, YouTube changed the algorithm to strike down channels like mine.
It used to be that if you watched one of my videos, the autoplay recommendation would show you more of my videos.
So all of these, I'll do air quotes, I'll just call them activists, got angry.
Oh no, we're so angry because people with opinions we don't like are getting traffic and we work for BuzzFeed.
So YouTube changes the algorithm.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Here's what I did.
I started saying at the beginning of all my videos, if you want to support my work, the best thing you can do is share this video.
Because the YouTube algorithm is weighted against me, but there's nothing more powerful than a direct share.
adam crigler
We can go ahead and take this time to say, go ahead and share this video.
tim pool
Share this video.
adam crigler
Tell everyone how awesome we are.
lydia smith
Word of mouth, baby.
adam crigler
Please continue, Tim.
tim pool
But in all seriousness, Look at what he's saying.
This is a guy from BuzzFeed.
He writes these hit pieces.
He's been wrong on several occasions, and he's literally angry right now that people on Facebook have shared links.
What's the alternative?
Let's say YouTube says, okay, we've decided we're going to outright ban everybody.
What?
So that YouTube just becomes Netflix?
So the only people who can post is Netflix?
Think about what he's saying right here.
YouTube knows this is a problem.
What?
That users can upload videos and share the link?
adam crigler
Isn't that what YouTube's for?
tim pool
Yeah, it's literally what it's for.
what it's for. Supposed to be. Oh man. But here it's unsurprising that this is what you know
lydia smith
Oh man.
tim pool
BuzzFeed focuses on. He goes on to say since the pandemic started I've written several stories
focusing on the explosion of Facebook users sharing YouTube links. What? Excuse me? This
is literally how it used to be. When you When YouTube first started, people would go on Facebook and they would share links.
Facebook got mad because it was driving traffic off of their site.
So Facebook started reducing the amount that YouTube links would appear.
It's countered now because people make groups.
And so when you're in a group, the post appears to the people in the group.
He's mad.
He's mad about it.
Haha. Short thread. YouTube's attempts to clean up their platform have not stopped and may even, uh,
attempts to clean up and may even be exacerbating the Facebook, uh, exacerbating the Facebook
sharing. The search results for COVID content are cleaned up, but on Facebook, things are
complete free for all. And.
lydia smith
We can't control it!
tim pool
What do we do?
adam crigler
We're losing our power!
tim pool
People on the internet are talking!
unidentified
Oh no!
lydia smith
This is amazing.
tim pool
This second, largely unmoderated YouTube via Facebook is especially bad in India, where some of the most watched COVID-19 videos in the world are in Hindi and full of misinformation.
I don't disagree that disinformation is bad.
It's a very big problem.
But guess what?
Let me ask you, what do you do if like, you know, Billy Bob walks down to the local watering hole and says, hey man, I heard that this thing was orchestrated.
And the other guy goes, wow.
Are you going to show up and be like, stop talking?
Are you going to write a newspaper article?
Dangerous things are happening where people...
are talking.
lydia smith
Apparently you are.
tim pool
Whispers.
Sharing thoughts and ideas.
unidentified
Oh no!
adam crigler
I see someone at Bud's feed saying it's full of misinformation and then I know what I know because I've been in this world now seeing the mainstream media spreading misinformation.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Like I'm on Twitter now and I follow people on both sides of the spectrum as far as like political and it's like both sides are just spouting Misinformation that just proves their own points, you know, and this happens, but one side is correct Yeah, and and it switches but doesn't switch
Yeah, you're right.
It's mostly on the right, yeah.
tim pool
It's like this.
adam crigler
Well, I mean, there are some environmental things that people on the left are saying that is from truth.
tim pool
But that's not an issue of reality.
That's an issue of opinion.
adam crigler
Right.
OK, well, that's what I'm talking about, those kind of things.
tim pool
So you can say something like, I do not like Donald Trump removing environmental protections.
adam crigler
Right, that was one of my things.
tim pool
And then a conservative will say, I do like it, it's good for business.
And you'll say, I don't think so, I think it's bad for everybody, blah blah blah.
It's an argument, that's fine.
But three, four, five years of Russia, Jussie Smollett, Covington, these are really high profile examples of how the media just gets everything wrong.
adam crigler
No, I 100% agree that it's mostly a one-sided thing right now.
tim pool
So the easiest way to explain it is, You do have fake news on the right, the 5G conspiracy stuff.
It's not fair to call that right-wing, to be honest.
adam crigler
Yeah, I was going to say, isn't that just like random nuts everywhere?
tim pool
Right, because, you know, Karen on Facebook saying something like, you know, the towers are coming for us, it's nothing to do with the right, you know what I mean?
adam crigler
Or the left, yeah, it doesn't matter.
tim pool
Yeah, and there are a lot of left-wing crazy conspiracy theories, and recently Chris Hayes of MSNBC in an interview said they're They're out of their gourds, right?
So conspiracies happen, but I'll tell you what.
I can't give you the exact number, but it's something like this.
6 out of 10 stories that come from the right are correct.
4 out of 10 stories that come from the left are correct.
And so if you're on the left, you have a tendency to be wrong.
If you're on the right, you have a tendency to be right.
But I'm not saying political right or left.
I'm saying culture war, right and left.
And that's because a lot of moderate and independents are now somehow aligned with the right, simply because there's issues of freedom and free speech and free thought.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You look at, like, Ben Shapiro, who's, like, the joke about Ben Shapiro is, debate me!
You know what I mean?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, he wants to have the ideas challenged.
He wants it down.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And the left is, shut them down.
Cancel their show.
Cancel their speech.
adam crigler
Yeah.
We don't want to debate.
We don't want to get in an opportunity where you can just prove us wrong.
tim pool
Exactly.
And so that creates this kind of dynamic.
And that's exactly what we're seeing right now with BuzzFeed.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's read a little bit more.
He says, That's definitely true about whether it looks good or not.
YouTube videos has also mirrored the rise in conspiracy theories.
The 5G Truth or Facebook groups are full of YouTube links that they share with each other
because the videos look more legitimate than native Facebook content.
That's definitely true about whether it looks good or not.
Facebook content is garbage.
And the video that I got YouTube to comment on was the one that claimed Dr. Fauci is a
member of the deep state.
The video was viewed over six million times.
Its biggest referrals were a QAnon Facebook group, a Christian mommy bloggers page, and a chiropractor.
adam crigler
Random.
tim pool
The Deep State is a specific colloquial reference to members of what they call the permanent government.
And this is actually what someone in the intelligence community called it.
These are people who are holdovers, right?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So George W. Bush will be like, I'm going to appoint this guy to the FBI.
And then Obama comes in and the guy stays.
And then Trump comes in and the guy stays.
That's what people refer to as deep state.
People who have been in government and aren't elected were appointed and just stay.
adam crigler
Oh, aren't elected.
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So if someone said Dr. Fauci is a member of the Deep State, I'm like, that's just a colloquial way to explain that Dr. Fauci has been in government, in this position, for decades.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
That he wasn't elected, he wasn't changed, and that's a big aspect of our government.
lydia smith
Yeah, it's not sinister.
tim pool
Yeah, right.
But, you know, look, because conspiracy theorists might use similar terminology, it's like, ooh, what do we do?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
YouTube knows Facebook users are sharing YouTube videos at a higher rate.
And you can see the traffic increase on social metrics sites like BuzzSumo and CrowdTangle, which means Facebook knows this too.
But each platform is expecting the other one to moderate this.
It's a mess.
What do you want to happen on the internet with the internet?
I don't get it.
adam crigler
What is he expecting?
lydia smith
I don't know.
adam crigler
It's so silly sounding.
tim pool
Facebook is like, it's a YouTube link.
So Facebook already censors a lot of content.
YouTube already took down tons of these videos.
You know what's going to happen?
Someone's going to post it to LiveLeak or BitChute and then they'll post it to Facebook.
You can't stop this.
It's a core function of what the internet is.
adam crigler
Hey, sorry, we're connected in the internet.
You can't stop us.
We're going to stay connected now.
Imagine when are they going to get that?
It feels like they want to go back to like the nineties.
Kind of, you know, when people were just like, Oh, what's the internet dial up?
What's that?
tim pool
but i i think i read the newspaper i think i think it's more in line with
trump derangement syndrome okay like so outside of what trump derangement syndrome is
focused on trump there's a general effect so people who no matter what it is
always wrong it's always that it must be stopped
so at first they're like you know alex jones on youtube any saying things we
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So then YouTube gets rid of him.
Yeah.
Okay, well, we still have to be mad about something, so people are sharing links on Facebook!
adam crigler
That's crazy.
unidentified
No!
lydia smith
Yeah, it's crazy.
tim pool
Wow, someone shared a link.
BuzzFeed, how do you think you make money?
lydia smith
What a good question, Tim.
tim pool
People take the links.
adam crigler
Well, they don't make money from me, that's for sure.
lydia smith
Right.
adam crigler
I don't go to BuzzFeed.
tim pool
Websites like BuzzFeed, like Vox, like Mike.com, which is like mostly defunct.
Got started by manipulating Facebook's algorithm, because people would share the stories.
We've heard about this before.
Some of these sites used to be right-wing libertarian, because police brutality videos were very, very popular for a long time.
So the approach was, if you were all about liberty, you could play to the left and the right.
Most Americans detest racism, so it wasn't a left or right issue.
So all of these sites first started out kind of like on a libertarian bent, but then they started figuring out that it's older women who share the most.
So their content slowly started skewing towards moms.
adam crigler
Do you want me to say it?
unidentified
What?
adam crigler
Karens?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Karens.
lydia smith
Yes.
unidentified
100%.
adam crigler
You were thinking it.
lydia smith
I was thinking it too.
tim pool
To Karens.
lydia smith
Yeah, for sure.
tim pool
That's absolutely it.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And so then, more shares, more money.
So they started hiring people to write these things, and thus we got the wave of critical race theory, social justice stuff, because Facebook was being exploited.
Here's the funny thing.
Did I complain about people's ability to share links?
I think it's a serious problem that Facebook drove this.
He is.
Imagine a zombie complaining about zombies.
adam crigler
You have complained about YouTube quite often on our show.
For right reasons.
tim pool
I've defended YouTube against the lies that YouTube radicalizes people.
It's not true.
I've complained about YouTube censoring in favor of these people.
adam crigler
And pushing CNN and squashing you down.
I'm not saying you're not justified.
tim pool
I'm not talking about them complaining about their problem.
I'm talking about they were propped up, and now they're mad other people are taking advantage of the same system.
adam crigler
Oh, BuzzFeed was propped up for a while?
tim pool
Yes, they manipulated the Facebook algorithm.
Well, okay, I should say sites like BuzzFeed, Huffington Post, this is what they were doing.
He's mad, or I should say he's the remnant of, oh no, we're being displaced.
The system we were exploiting is taking away from us.
adam crigler
Right.
That's what it sounds like.
tim pool
Now, you could argue there's some overlap between my complaints with YouTube propping up mainstream media, but it's kind of an inversion.
CNN doesn't produce content that people actually want to see and engage with, and they actually produce lies.
So he's arguing that people are producing fake news.
It's like, bro, this guy's written several fake stories and got called out for it.
adam crigler
This guy?
tim pool
Yeah.
This guy specifically.
adam crigler
He's crying.
It just sounds like he's just crying and whining about it.
tim pool
So it's like this whole zombie system they function on was pushing shock content that was outrage and generate shares.
I've explained this before.
YouTube doesn't generate shares the way Facebook does.
On Facebook, when a link pops up and it says, you know, dog does backflip.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, no one does that.
Maybe, I don't know.
and all of a sudden that pops up in the feeds of all their friends.
YouTube doesn't have that function.
If you click so you can like a video and then if people go to your YouTube page,
adam crigler
they might see it.
tim pool
But nobody does that.
adam crigler
Yeah, no one does that.
So maybe, I don't know.
Some people might do it.
tim pool
Facebook.
unidentified
So I'll clarify.
tim pool
There is a slight possibility of radicalization through YouTube, but I would argue that it's relatively negligible.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
More so than without YouTube, but not noticeable because there have been several studies showing that on YouTube, you have to choose what you watch.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Facebook is different.
Facebook, you get like three posts you can see on your monitor.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And so when people go on and they see a video of a cop beating somebody, they click share.
All of a sudden, everyone just sees it, whether they've chosen it or not.
So that allows this radicalization to propagate extremely rapidly.
Then these companies that have made money off exploiting the system get scared that people like me on YouTube call them out.
So they accuse us of what they do.
It's projection.
And you know what the problem is?
When you get people like me that are willing to be honest about it and not lie and cheat, we're at a severe disadvantage.
Because BuzzFeed lies all the time.
They make up fake news.
But because they have venture capital and institutional power, they can write fake news about me, and then all of a sudden I get all of these... They circle the wagons around each other.
They defend their venture capital interests.
None of these people want to lose money.
So we're the bigger threat because we're independent individuals.
adam crigler
Taking their views away.
tim pool
Going up against the machine.
So the machine will protect itself.
And they do it to everybody.
And the funniest example, I guess, is the President of the United States.
Someone who is one of the most powerful people in the world.
But they do it to him too.
Because it's the same thing.
He wasn't supposed to be President.
He's basically taken the power.
So they're panicking and trying to stop him and crush him in any way possible.
They are circling the wagons.
That's the name of the game, man.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
You know what's really funny about BuzzFeed?
adam crigler
Ben Smith... I don't care.
tim pool
Hold on, that's good.
The editor-in-chief of BuzzFeed News, and BuzzFeed was pumping out all this crazy crap, and I'm like, man, because I've known Ben for a little while, it's not like I've known him very well, and I'm like, why is this happening?
I thought Ben was better than this.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Ben quits.
He goes to the New York Times.
And now he's writing some of the best stuff ever.
Calling out Joe Biden.
Yeah.
adam crigler
He couldn't stand what was going on.
tim pool
Maybe.
lydia smith
Clearly.
tim pool
He had a mandate.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But now he's at the New York Times.
adam crigler
Yeah, but you're your own boss.
You still left.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
But he's not.
You'd think even the New York Times would be more compromised, but he's got presumably more freedom.
lydia smith
That's cool.
adam crigler
What's his name?
tim pool
Ben Smith.
Ben Smith. Yeah. And it's like finally some of the New York Times now calling out a lot of what we
all see. Nice. And it's great. Like notably he called out the Joe Biden defense from the New
York Times. Yeah. Like we questioned it. Okay. He also called out CNN for faking the Chris Cuomo
quarantine thing. That's amazing.
And I was like, wow.
That whole thing is hilarious.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Bravo.
And I tweeted this too.
And this is a big for me.
I was like, I almost forgot what real journalism looked like.
lydia smith
I know, right?
tim pool
And then, you know, he's like, hey, CNN.
He said CNN was alighting the Cuomo controversy because Cuomo comes out of his basement like, look, I'm not quarantined anymore.
adam crigler
That video is so stupid.
lydia smith
So stilted.
adam crigler
Oh, man.
tim pool
You were caught.
You were caught like 30 minutes from your house, bro.
But he tweeted about it and I was like, wow.
That's great!
New York Times, because they got a lot of bad people over there, man.
Yeah, but the New York Times is not the worst.
I'd give them like a 6 out of 10.
And they do a lot of good factual reporting.
Like, they're one of the best.
The AP, I think, is the best.
The AP and PBS do a really, really good job.
The problem with the New York Times is that, editorially, they aren't in the bag for Democrats.
That means when critical political stories pop up, you can't trust what they write.
When certain tech stories pop up, you can a little bit, but they're also extremely biased against Google because they
think they deserve Google's money.
They're like, Google has displaced news, therefore Google should pay us.
There's actually in, I'm not sure if it's in France or whatever, there's a suit where, there's an issue. Google
crawls a news story, right?
Okay.
And then if you Google search, there will be a box that appears that gives you the gist of the news story.
So what happens is, the New York Times will write a story, Google will take the information, and it'll appear on Google.com, where they sell ads.
And then when you see that, you're like, wow, Donald Trump did a backflip, moving on.
Whereas in the past, you had to go to the New York Times to get the news, Google is infringing on their market.
So you gotta be careful about those biases.
You know, there we go.
At the same time, you know, Facebook is training its AI to censor hateful memes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what, man?
lydia smith
How dare you?
My memes!
tim pool
I think... I said this ten, uh, about ten years ago.
Ten years ago, we were in, like, the John Dillinger era of bank robbers.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
You know, it was like, the bank robbers happened all over the place, and the gangsters were there, and they were, like, anti-heroes almost.
Some of them were really villains.
And we had all these hackers doing this hacker stuff.
And I was like, this is that age because they're going to lock this down.
Everything's going to become rigid, authoritarian, and we can see it happening in real time.
So my prediction would be in 10 years, there's going to be like three websites.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Um, and you're going to have your page, like, you know, like your, your information for your website will just be a Facebook page.
adam crigler
Facebook, Amazon, and Google.
tim pool
Yep.
Well, what would Google do?
adam crigler
Give you any information you ask it.
tim pool
People are gonna have all their information on some social profile.
adam crigler
No, they're gonna have Neuralink.
What's the, what's this times this?
I already know the answer.
Boom.
Neuralink.
tim pool
Yeah, but I'm talking about websites and how we interact with the internet.
adam crigler
But that's what I'm saying.
It won't be the same.
We're going to have like, think what Neuralink does.
And that's just the base level.
Imagine like 30 years afterwards, like we're going to think in some information.
What kind of information do I need right now?
Now I know all the information.
It's like the matrix.
How do I fly the helicopter?
Now I know how to fly it.
tim pool
In 10 years, I doubt it.
adam crigler
Well, no, no, I'm not saying in 10 years.
I'm saying once Neuralink becomes a normal thing, and then think 10, 30 years after that, you know?
tim pool
I'm not convinced.
10 or 15 years ago, they were talking about those RFID chips you can get under your skin, and people were getting them, and they'd wave their hand in front of a door, and the door would open, and people still don't get them.
It's like, I remember Alex Jones was like, they're getting the chips, Verichips coming, and then it never did.
Because, you get a phone.
I go to my hotel, I wiggle my phone in front of the door, the door opens.
We don't need implants in that capacity.
I think Neuralink, maybe, but the issue is, humans have a really difficult time implanting things.
Some people do it.
Most people won't do it.
Did you know that you can give yourself electro sense?
Um, or whatever, whatever it's called, um, electro perception.
I'm not sure what it's, what's called.
adam crigler
No, what is it?
tim pool
You can take a neodymium magnet and embed it in your fingertips.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And then you can feel electrical waves.
adam crigler
Very interesting.
tim pool
It gives you the ability to detect electrical and EMF electromagnetic fields.
adam crigler
But for what purpose though?
To stay away from it?
tim pool
It's an extra sense, bro.
You could put your hand on a wall and feel where the, where the power cables are.
adam crigler
Interesting.
tim pool
Yeah, it's like a platypus or an echidna.
adam crigler
That colorblind guy that implanted this thing that he can smell colors now.
unidentified
What?
adam crigler
You ever see this?
unidentified
No.
adam crigler
He actually has an implant that comes out like a little alien device that's connected to his brain and he can like smell colors or something.
That's weird.
tim pool
Wouldn't you want the ability to sense electrical fields?
lydia smith
Might be useful.
adam crigler
It's interesting.
Yeah, I don't know.
It is an interesting thought.
tim pool
If you're looking to mount stuff in walls or you're looking for where the line is coming in, you just hold your hand over and you're like, oh, there's the power cable.
And then you know exactly where it is.
Or you can tell if a wire is live or not.
You'll be like, whoa, that's live.
I can't touch it.
So a lot of people have done this because it's really cool.
You can feel like you'll put your hand and be like, wow.
Like, it's a sense, something you've never experienced before.
I'm curious as to what the perception is.
So the way it works is that your fingertips are very sensitive, and so putting a magnet under the skin, when the magnet comes in contact with the wave, it starts putting pressure and vibrating a little bit, and it puts pressure on your nerve.
So what I've read, and I've never done it, I know some people who have, is that it's not like touch.
It's something different.
It's like you can feel electricity.
It's weird.
adam crigler
Interesting.
tim pool
So people know this, they don't do it.
adam crigler
So you said that most people have a problem with implants.
Have you seen that Black Mirror episode where they have the contacts that record your entire life and they can go back to any and watch anything?
Wouldn't that be like the computer of the future then or the cell phone of the future?
I don't think so.
No.
tim pool
No, because it's hard to use.
adam crigler
It's not an implant.
They just pop it in and like, I don't know, they figure it out so that it allows oxygen to flow through so you don't have to take it out.
You just leave it in and you just have your cell phone just in your eyeball.
tim pool
So right now, contact lenses have the problem of permeability.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
So that's why you gotta take them out.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
adam crigler
So for those that aren't familiar with... It cuts the oxygen off from your eyeball.
Yeah.
tim pool
For those that aren't familiar with lenses, the capillaries can grow over your eyes because your eyes are struggling to get oxygen to, you know.
adam crigler
So... They need to breathe!
Yeah, your eyes gotta breathe.
Maybe... They do.
tim pool
Maybe... Odd thing, but... There's a way they can do it that it's like... But, you know, for now... I know we're talking about what the argument is in the future.
For now, it's like, yeah, we'd have to solve that problem.
Let's say we did.
I wonder if it's still just a hassle.
I got my phone right here, dude.
You know what's really funny?
You know in Futurama when Leela's wearing the wristband with the screen on it?
And there's also a video game called Commander Keen.
You know Commander Keen?
He wore a wrist computer as well.
Sure. I remember when I was little I was like, man, that's the future.
Brisk computers.
And then I got a phone and I'm like, no one is ever going to put that on their wrist.
adam crigler
That makes no sense.
But think about what a contact phone would give you the ability to.
Number one, you'd probably be able to just think.
They're already doing this where you can think things and text comes up or whatever.
You tell it whatever.
So if you had it in your eyeball, you can watch whatever you want to watch.
You know, it's just there.
It projects it.
Where to do that?
Boom.
unidentified
3D.
adam crigler
Virtual reality.
Like you were saying, like, man, if Neuralink, I just plug into... Oh, we're done working.
Skyrim.
Boom.
And you're playing Skyrim, you know?
But if you have contacts that actually you are actually seeing... Oh, I don't know.
tim pool
Who knows?
I don't know. I'm just great sense of touch interact with your brain who knows so the the neural link has very very
fine wires that they have to find a human hair right so
Maybe in the future what one of the challenges rejection I'm sure Elon Musk is smart enough to know this better than I do, so I'll defer to him.
adam crigler
Sure.
tim pool
But what do we do, like when you're one, they put the Neuralink implant and you get like a port on your neck and you can like plug in?
adam crigler
A USB port?
tim pool
Or it could be wireless.
It's like a Wi-Fi.
adam crigler
That's what I would assume.
tim pool
Wi-Fi antennas are tiny, but what powers it?
adam crigler
Theoretically, aren't we electrical beings?
Like, don't we have, I mean, couldn't we figure out a way that we power it?
tim pool
The radio waves themselves might be able to give it enough power to transmit signals, because signals are particularly weak relative to, like, an actual electronic device.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Maybe it's that simple, you know?
I don't know.
adam crigler
Yeah, who knows?
tim pool
We've entertained the idea of implants.
Maybe the problem is their use factor wasn't enough.
Like the RFID chips opening a door.
Who cares?
adam crigler
Yeah, who cares?
tim pool
It's not worth getting this thing.
And they have this big needle.
They put it in and then they deposit it.
adam crigler
It was silly.
tim pool
But Neuralink would be substantially more beneficial.
You know what I think it might be, actually?
They're talking about people who have spinal injuries.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
We might see this start where someone who's paraplegic gets the implant and then they get an electrode at the other part of the spine after the break.
adam crigler
Nice.
tim pool
So the signal can jump wirelessly.
unidentified
Dope.
adam crigler
I never even thought about that.
tim pool
That's great.
And then they're healed.
They can get up and walk around like normal.
adam crigler
Dope.
tim pool
We'll have to relearn probably.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But then the signal can travel because we've created, you know, this jump.
adam crigler
A part of me thinks that he is doing this because he's afraid of AI and wants to figure out a way to make us Hasn't he said that?
Part of AI?
tim pool
He said that.
adam crigler
Oh, he has said that.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure he said that, right?
adam crigler
Yeah, I think he said that.
I don't know if he said exactly that.
lydia smith
He said it on Joe Rogan the first time, I thought.
adam crigler
What, that he wants to make us part of AI?
lydia smith
He doesn't think AI is good.
tim pool
If we're integrated with it.
adam crigler
No, I know he's afraid of AI, but it's like, Neuralink makes us part of it.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure that's his argument.
adam crigler
Oh, cool.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what he said.
adam crigler
I didn't see his Joe Rogan article.
tim pool
If we're integrated with it, there's no war.
There's no Terminator scenario if we are with the AI as one.
adam crigler
If we are the AI.
lydia smith
Interesting.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Scary.
tim pool
I don't know, man.
I mean, I guess it would kind of be good.
You're talking, you know, you're, you're, you're talking like in the early stages, you're at Thanksgiving with your family and you've got that one really dumb uncle or whatever.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And he's like, I don't know about that.
And it's like, check.
And he goes, wow, you were right.
adam crigler
Hmm.
Yeah.
tim pool
Or it's like no arguments ever again.
adam crigler
And that's what the future of the internet is.
Go ahead and check.
tim pool
There would still be opinions though.
adam crigler
I just checked.
I just checked all that facts, all the facts on that.
tim pool
But opinions wouldn't change based on that because that's about your... You're right.
adam crigler
You're right.
The opinions wouldn't change.
Right.
There would still be ideas out there.
tim pool
Well, you're right that Donald Trump did say that, but I don't think it's a big deal.
And then they would argue, what do you mean you don't think it's a big deal?
Of course it's a big deal.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's your perspective.
tim pool
Yep.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And that wouldn't change.
lydia smith
Based on how you grew up or whatever.
tim pool
But at least we'd have the facts together.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
So when you say something like, Obamagate!
And they go, that's a debunked conspiracy theory.
You're like, nope.
lydia smith
Like, no it's not.
tim pool
But look, let's be honest, man.
We can pull up on our phones.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
People still don't want to do it.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
Yeah.
You know what I do a lot when people are like, when I'm talking to somebody and they're like arguing with me?
I'll just be like, I'll just pull up on my phone and I will say nothing.
And I'll be like, here you go.
And they'll be like, well, I don't know if I believe that.
I'm like, I don't care if you believe it or not, whatever.
I'm done.
lydia smith
If you're not going to believe it.
That's why they think it.
tim pool
If sources don't work for you, then I don't know what the point of talking to you is.
unidentified
Seriously.
tim pool
Okay.
It is about that time.
adam crigler
Superchats!
unidentified
Superchats!
lydia smith
Awesome!
tim pool
So the first thing you gotta do is hit that like button!
Like us!
adam crigler
Subscribe!
tim pool
Let's get 50,000 likes on the- I'm kidding.
adam crigler
Yes, please.
lydia smith
50,000 likes.
tim pool
Likes really do help.
So if you are so inclined to smash that like button.
adam crigler
But more importantly, share!
lydia smith
Tell everyone.
adam crigler
And follow me.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Follow Adam because you got to send him story ideas.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So that's the big, that's the big thing.
adam crigler
Yeah.
I always pin a tweet at the top of my page that you could just go and just put whatever.
A lot of times people are giving me stuff that we've already done or stuff that he has just done on his shows.
tim pool
But that's fine.
adam crigler
That are kind of political.
No, don't stop though.
They're all fantastic.
Don't, don't stop.
Keep it coming.
Keep, even if you think that we've done it, send it our way.
It always helps.
Really appreciate it.
lydia smith
Thank you.
tim pool
You guys are great. Let's read some super chats. This is your chance to get on the show everybody.
Thanks for hanging out. We love you guys.
King Canuck says, send at 8. Hope you guys cover something light tonight.
Tim, thought about transferring some of your trophies from your old sets walls to this one.
No, no, we actually we took them down.
Um, it's actually in the same space, but, uh, it's, it's a, it's a different, I don't know.
adam crigler
Different world.
tim pool
One thing I do want to do is I want to get some, like, writing or some kind of art.
We've talked about guitars, maybe some, maybe some skateboards with arts on them, art on it or something.
adam crigler
Yeah, the problem is, this is, these are actually, I mean, we're in a completely new room, but these are still the same walls.
I actually built them on, um, another panel that, so they're, they're actually... They're removable.
There's six of them, five of them.
Yeah, so we could take these, move them around, switch them around if we want to, but they don't hold weight.
So we can't actually hang anything on them.
tim pool
And the wood ones are really heavy.
adam crigler
They are really heavy, actually, yeah, because that's actually flooring.
tim pool
Looks cool, though.
adam crigler
Yeah, came out, came out well.
lydia smith
Keep it clean.
tim pool
Yeah, the way I had it designed before was kind of something I threw up in my room and didn't really make as much sense for like a... We're up in the production value.
But I do think we could use some kind of definition.
At least in some capacity.
Skateboard.
unidentified
Art.
adam crigler
Something.
tim pool
Maybe.
unidentified
Maybe one day.
I like the guitar.
Maybe.
adam crigler
I already pre-ordered it.
tim pool
I like the guitar mark G says be honest Tim You canceled last night's stream because you were too hyped
for the Tony Hawk pro skater one and two trailer that came out yesterday
I already pre-ordered it No yesterday was just like a brutal news day where the news
was like It was horrible.
adam crigler
I came down, I'm like, hey, you guys ready to get going on the, what are we going to talk about?
tim pool
And they're like, my eyes were bloodshot, and I was like, what?
unidentified
No.
lydia smith
Crawling was horrible.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
And then I crawled into the rejuvenation chamber and sealed it, filled up with biofluid, and I was floating for the next six hours.
adam crigler
And the new beanie came down.
All these connectors had like, and just like, tsh, tsh.
tim pool
Gregory says, Adam has gone full Messiah.
Most certainly.
lydia smith
It's the hair, yes.
adam crigler
Is it the hair?
What do you guys think of my hair, huh?
lydia smith
Lovin' it, yeah.
No beanie needed.
tim pool
IB Rippetum says, face it, extreme fartisanship is hurting America.
Well, you gotta stop drinkin' all that lactose, man.
adam crigler
Man, he'd be ripping them.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
CNN needs to get... This is the problem.
Stefan Tirol says CNN calls Obamagate a conspiracy theory.
Meanwhile they unironically pelted Russiagate and consider Greta Thunberg an expert in the
coronavirus.
CNN needs to get, this is the problem.
adam crigler
CNN needs to go away.
tim pool
But YouTube's propping them up.
adam crigler
Maybe YouTube needs to go away, too.
Can I set it under my breath?
Because that's our platform.
tim pool
No, because other platforms exist, too.
The problem is that YouTube has strangled them out of the market.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
That's a good point.
tim pool
GM says, Hey Tim, been following since Timcast IRL began.
Love it.
Don't trust China.
China is a-hole.
That is a fact.
lydia smith
That's a great video.
tim pool
Salon Blue says Tony Hawk Pro Skater 1 and 2 remaster September 4th with original soundtrack for the most part.
Also, BuzzFeed is pulling back from politics after cuts.
Really?
adam crigler
Yeah, right.
lydia smith
I thought they had a bunch of cuts.
adam crigler
Sure they are.
tim pool
But it's because they're going to do rage bait culture war crap.
lydia smith
And yell at the crowds.
adam crigler
And it seems like they're losing their hold on their fame or notoriety, you know?
BuzzFeed.
tim pool
Well, Ben Smith quit.
adam crigler
Maybe that's what it is.
They're like, oh man.
lydia smith
Jumping ship.
tim pool
Let's see.
Cordy says, to the tune of Bill Nye's intro, Tim Poole is a real cool dude.
unidentified
Tim, Tim, Tim, Tim, Tim.
tim pool
I could actually do the, Tim, Tim, like Bill Nye.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Why didn't you go for it?
tim pool
Cause it was funnier that I read it monotone.
adam crigler
I was really looking forward to that.
Go on.
tim pool
Eric says, what's your guys' feeling on reopening the economy?
I think we do it with social distancing.
We don't, we don't have, we don't have concerts.
We don't have conventions and I think we'll be fine.
lydia smith
We can be smart.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Lambda Core says, my birthday was the 8th, and I haven't been up to watch the streams and superchat this.
And I haven't been.
Hope everyone is doing well.
Stay safe, everyone.
Absolutely.
adam crigler
Appreciate it.
tim pool
Artemis Fowl says, Tim Pool, I believe you need to rein in your bias when it comes to the Arbery shooting case.
You keep implying the men are murderers.
Stop using deserve.
Shootings are justified, not deserved.
I keep implying the men are murderers?
unidentified
Wait, what?
tim pool
You know what?
And that story is so confusing.
Conservatives are all on... I got tagged in this red state debunk because I did a video.
There was a local news report that said the footage appeared to show Arbery several times at night.
According to one Screen filmed from a cell phone video that someone sent me.
ABC claimed that the family denied it.
I couldn't find the article anywhere.
I couldn't find anyone asserting it.
I couldn't find anything countering the point made by the local journalists who pointed out the video.
But, there's a, uh, RedState said that, they were the one source I found saying that the man is different.
But I'm like, you know what man, we'll, I gotta wait for more information on this one, but I did put it in.
adam crigler
That's the thing, I don't know anything about it.
Everything I'm seeing, as I said earlier, it's like I see people over here and people over here spouting whatever, you know, information they've heard.
tim pool
Bias.
adam crigler
But it's like, everything I'm looking at isn't real information.
It's like what they took and like, Yeah, that must be true So I'm gonna yell it to the sky and it's like the weirdest thing is the conservatives defending that I don't know any truth It's totally normal to go into a construction site all the time like I mean, I worked construction and that's not true at all, right?
If anybody in the trades saw someone that they didn't know, because all the electricians, they know all the HVAC guys, they all know each other, so it's like if they close down a construction site and someone's in there that they don't know, they know that you're not supposed to be there.
You're probably looking for copper, looking for tools that were left out.
tim pool
Copper was a big thing.
adam crigler
That's shady.
How are they talking like it's a normal thing?
Who's saying that it's normal to go to a construction site?
tim pool
There was a construction site in Chicago and a bunch of skateboarders looted it for tons of building materials.
adam crigler
That's pretty much what happened.
tim pool
They were building ramps and stuff with it.
They were like, free stuff!
And they went in.
And I'm like, that's why it's Chicago.
Maybe it's an urban... I don't know.
Anyway, the point I was making before about the story is that, I did a ton of searches on this, people are sharing a video where someone took their phone and filmed their TV, and then you hear someone say, the family denies this man, and I'm like, bro, I can't use that as a source.
lydia smith
That's not enough.
tim pool
I have a local CBS affiliate straight up saying, there's footage uncovered that appears to show the man, and I'm like, that's what I went off of.
So, RedState apparently has, you know, put this out.
RedState tends to be, and I mean no disrespect, a conservative commentary website.
So I took it into consideration.
I added a note to the video that it appears to be it might not.
But until we have a bigger update on, you know, and we might not ever know, it's like, bro, it's a rock and a hard place for me because so many people are biased in trying to influence my coverage on this.
If I came out and said, oh, I guess it's not him, and I have no source for it, then I'm in an equally bad position where I'm gonna get a ton of people criticizing me for, you know what I mean?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So it's difficult, you know?
adam crigler
I mean, I'm just like, we should just not touch it, because we don't know enough truth.
lydia smith
Yeah, we gotta wait for a little bit.
tim pool
Right, and that's what I've been saying the whole time.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
The gist of it is... We don't know enough.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Steven says, Adam, do a Jesus pose for us.
adam crigler
How does Jesus pose?
tim pool
I don't know.
lydia smith
I think that's not Jesus.
adam crigler
I don't care.
That's the soy Jesus.
lydia smith
That's the soy version.
adam crigler
I don't know Jesus.
I'm not religious.
tim pool
Antonio says, I'm glad you guys are back.
adam crigler
Me too.
tim pool
Timothy, thanks for becoming a member.
That's a great name.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Coyle says, Tim, your Ben Shapiro the other night was epic.
Please give us more.
Well, it's gotta come out naturally.
lydia smith
That's right, you can't force it.
adam crigler
Mad people were hitting me up like, dude, he nailed Ben Shapiro.
I'm like, alright, alright.
He's good at impressions.
tim pool
Sometimes.
adam crigler
Now you're good.
tim pool
Wow, that would be insane.
That'd be so fun.
I mean, I'd be down to be on it, but I feel like I'm outclassed by all of them.
JRE Beyond E Thuner, Thundercast.
adam crigler
Wow, that would be insane.
lydia smith
That'd be so fun.
tim pool
I mean, I'd be down to be on it, but I feel like I'm outclassed by all of them.
I don't know, I'd be like, why would I be on that?
adam crigler
That's so much fun.
It would be really loud in that room.
tim pool
And I'd be sitting there like, no, it would be Alex.
adam crigler
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, it'd be.
lydia smith
It's true.
His volume's always at 11.
tim pool
You know what's crazy about Alex Jones, man?
I was watching a video of him from like the late 90s.
adam crigler
OK.
tim pool
She was a normal guy.
adam crigler
Oh, really?
tim pool
Yeah, it was like some clip where someone asked him questions.
No, no, this was from the early 2000s.
Someone asked him about 9-11.
And he was like, the caller calls in and then says something like, how could you believe any of this stuff?
And his response was like, listen, I got the Associated Press, and I got a report here that says, and he starts naming people, and he's like, now, let me ask you, like, what do you think about that news report?
Because right there it says, and I'm like, that seems pretty average.
That sounds like he's actually looking at the news and asking questions.
Now you turn on his stuff and he's like, You know, I don't know.
I will eat my neighbors.
Yeah.
I will eat my neighbors.
Yeah.
I understand the point he was making, but he really is very, very different.
adam crigler
Well, it's almost like he figured out that crazy stuff gets more hits.
lydia smith
Like other people have figured out?
adam crigler
Yeah.
It seems to be kind of a thing nowadays.
lydia smith
Interesting.
adam crigler
Crazy stuff gets shared more.
I will eat my neighbors.
tim pool
Like, wow.
I would never eat human.
adam crigler
Yeah, he said that full well knowing that it was going to be everywhere.
tim pool
And I think it's because when they banned him, he became like, he needs to find a way to get into the mainstream again to get that attention, to get that press.
adam crigler
Boom.
tim pool
Eat his neighbors.
But it's crazy, like somebody made a meme about this, where it showed him like one of his earliest TV show, like public access things.
And it was like a normal question.
And it's like the meme, the meme was literally just showing his progression.
And it was like, the government is lying to us and we need to challenge the authority.
The next one was like, the government is staging terror attacks against its own people.
The next one is, the government is actually alien lizard people.
And the last one was like, 5G, COVID, aliens, interdimensional beings, cell phone towers.
It's just been like a, it's gone nuts.
Crazy.
Yeah.
Let's read more.
Toolbox says, I ruined it for you?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Why?
Yeah, you ruined it for me.
How's that?
That's right.
Just straight ruined it for me, bro.
Oh no, how?
Smash Brothers?
you play on stream sometime Adam Lydia and and I'm versus 10 so I
In smash brothers he ruined it for me. I ruined it for you.
adam crigler
Yeah, why yeah, you ruined it for me How's that right just straight ruined it for me bro? How
smash brothers? Yeah, I'll explain He's so good
That when I try to play over we go this camera Okay.
lydia smith
Yeah, yeah.
adam crigler
When I try to play, I tried a few times, he wrecked me.
It was just, you know, going up against a pro.
You're a pro.
tim pool
No way, dude.
adam crigler
You're a pro, dude.
tim pool
Absolutely not.
adam crigler
Yeah, sure, you're not getting paid by Nintendo or anything.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, dude.
adam crigler
Not on a team.
tim pool
No way.
adam crigler
Compared to me, you were?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
You gotta watch these pro Smash Bros videos.
adam crigler
Anyway, to answer, he specifically said Atomcast, so.
lydia smith
That's right.
adam crigler
This is for me here.
I don't play Smash Bros.
I mean, I don't... I stopped playing Nintendo stuff.
The last thing I got was like 3DS.
And all I did was get a bunch of nostalgic games that I used to play on my, you know, old Game Boy.
But I would play it, but I just... PvP games in general tend to get boring for me.
I like multiplayer games, going out and doing stuff as a co-op.
And that's all it is, just beating each other up over and over and over again.
I can't do those games.
I just am so over it.
tim pool
You gotta watch Pro Smash Bros.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
It is some of the most ridiculous... Pro Smash Bros.
Yeah.
adam crigler
It's got a good flow.
tim pool
It's crazy.
So I used to, in Melee, I played Marth.
And, uh, when they, then, you know, I've typically preferred playing Marth, but I think they, like, he's not that good anymore, so I play Lucina.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Fox, uh, Fox, man, I go, I go nuts.
adam crigler
I think I played Cloud, didn't I?
tim pool
Wasn't Cloud a- Yeah, probably, yeah, Cloud's in there, yeah.
adam crigler
Yeah, and he's pretty good, right?
Mmm.
Oh, is it- I think he's like- Is it Zelda who's pretty good?
unidentified
No.
adam crigler
I don't know, I picked some character, you're like, oh, they're pretty good.
I can't remember.
tim pool
I thought it was Cloud.
adam crigler
Maybe- I saw Cloud, I'm like, yes.
tim pool
Maybe Sheik or something.
Cloud is, you know... Powerful, right?
adam crigler
Is that what you're, maybe that's what you're saying?
tim pool
Kind of.
If two people who've never played before, one person picks Cloud and one person picks, like, I don't know, Mario.
adam crigler
Anything else?
tim pool
Cloud's really good for someone who's never played, but Cloud's got a really bad recovery.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
So it depends on the map you're playing.
I typically like to play in just straight up, not Battlefield, Omega mode, so basically Final Destination.
adam crigler
Yeah, okay.
tim pool
And just a flat Battlefield.
But Cloud's got a really weak recovery.
So he's got really good recovery, but he's not one of the top.
I think Lucina is in the top tier, but it depends.
They change it sometimes.
So, you know, from playing Marth, I prefer Lucina, but with Fox, Fox is kind of weak, but man, I can lock people down like crazy.
unidentified
Just like, zoop, zoop, zoop, zoop, zoop, zoop.
tim pool
Just totally.
And then nobody wants to play anymore, so I just, I don't play.
But definitely not pro, man.
I am not good at that game.
I'm like someone who's played it for a long time, but if I played any pro, it'd be done in 30 seconds and I'd be like, Yeah, would not be fun.
adam crigler
Word.
tim pool
LaSalle says, hello guys!
unidentified
Hi!
adam crigler
Hello!
tim pool
Chuck Moore says, do as told or I will shut the Matrix down.
unidentified
Don't do that.
tim pool
You could.
The Shadowed Archivist says, love the content, Tim and co.
Definitely not for anything serious, but you guys should take a look at Jreg for a laugh.
He referenced you in a video about the dangers of the Alt-Center rabbit hole.
lydia smith
Oh, that's us!
tim pool
The Alt-Center.
adam crigler
The Alt-Center.
unidentified
Scary.
tim pool
The Alt-Center.
What does the Alt mean?
Like, we're literal center.
adam crigler
Yeah, I guess, yeah.
lydia smith
Oh, I'm slightly to the right and you're slightly to the left, so that would be alternatives, I guess.
tim pool
Alternatives, sure.
lydia smith
That's what I came up with.
adam crigler
I don't know.
lydia smith
Center, whatever.
adam crigler
Yeah, why not.
tim pool
Carlos says hello from the Dominican Republic.
adam crigler
Nice, what up?
Hey, cool.
tim pool
Do you guys have mangu there?
You ever have mango?
Boiled mashed plantains?
adam crigler
We've talked about it.
unidentified
People love that stuff.
adam crigler
We even got plantains.
Did we ever make it?
lydia smith
We never made it happen.
adam crigler
That's a shame.
lydia smith
We'll make it happen.
tim pool
Pickled onions on top?
unidentified
Mmm.
tim pool
Fried cheese?
adam crigler
Yeah.
Chow.
tim pool
Where we at, where we at?
adam crigler
You can put chow on there.
tim pool
Technically Right says, book recommendation for you guys, The Defenders of Liberty, Human Nature, Individualism, and Property Rights in Parvini by N. Parvini.
It's an exploration and analysis of the history and development of classical liberalism.
unidentified
Cool.
tim pool
Very cool.
I wonder if Sargon's read it.
James Wallace says, toss a coin to my beanie man and soy Jesus.
Thank you very much, but not to you, Lydia!
You get nothing!
adam crigler
You get no coin.
tim pool
No coin.
Matthew, well, neither is Adam right now.
lydia smith
Oh, hey, what the heck?
Come on.
adam crigler
Hey, I'm soy Jesus.
tim pool
Matthew says, Bill Clinton gave China the rocket technology in 1999.
adam crigler
Great.
Wow.
It's Bill Clinton's fault.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
That was a joke.
unidentified
So weird.
adam crigler
I can tell you this.
tim pool
I won't be watching that.
I mean, I just watch reruns of Family Guy.
seen documentary that is going to be released soon. And he bets they will imply that Trump
is connected to him. They already had a clip of Trump and Epstein in the trailer, yet nothing
with Clinton's. Oh, of course they will. So weird. So annoying how obvious the manipulation
is right now as we go into the election. I can tell you this. I won't be watching that.
I mean, I just watch reruns of Family Guy. I like documentaries, but you know. Yeah,
man. Let's see. William says Joe Rogan talked about moving to Texas if C.A.L.A. can.
County keeps things locked down for much longer.
Joe, Elon, and maybe Tim in Texas.
We've talked about Texas, man.
We have.
adam crigler
I like Texas.
tim pool
Texas is good.
lydia smith
I have the cowboy hat.
adam crigler
It's far from everywhere.
That's the only thing about Texas.
tim pool
It's becoming a weird political place.
adam crigler
It is, isn't it?
unidentified
Yeah.
That's true.
tim pool
That's why I was like, I don't know, West Virginia, man.
But it'd be cool.
I mean, there's a bunch of people down there.
Crowder's down there.
The Blaze is down there.
Jacob Reynolds says, should I start with a longboard for skateboarding?
adam crigler
You know what?
This is what I tell everyone.
Just go into a skate shop and stand on all the boards.
Longboards are significantly easier to understand your balance.
You can spread your stance out more.
I would suggest, you know, yeah, it is easier.
If you want to skateboard, like trick skateboarding, like the classic skateboarding, don't ever get a longboard.
You're gonna get used to the board that you're you're riding and it's better to Get one board and stick with it because you'll just become better on that board So if you're planning on just skating around distance wise just you know scooting around the neighborhood then get a long boards a lot easier you can get like a hybrid board that's bigger, but you can still trick it and They're out there.
They exist.
tim pool
Dude, I've seen videos of people doing hybrid boards.
It's built like a short board, but it's a long board.
adam crigler
Yeah, I've got one.
Arbor has one.
It's called the Shakedown, and it's great.
It's a great board.
tim pool
Get some handrails on that thing.
It's massive.
You feel like a little kid again.
adam crigler
Yeah, they're huge.
It feels huge, yeah.
But they're great.
Soft wheels.
tim pool
Here it comes.
Luke says Tim, with all the quote, wrongs you said today, reminds me of the orange man, just admit it and vote for Trump.
Well, hold on.
adam crigler
I keep trying.
lydia smith
Hold up.
tim pool
Lydia, are you going to vote for Trump?
lydia smith
I have not decided who I'm going to vote for, and the only thing I've decided is that whoever I vote for, nobody else is going to know.
tim pool
You're not going to tell anybody if you vote for anybody?
lydia smith
Nope.
I won't tell anybody even if I don't vote at all.
tim pool
And you said you would vote for Trump.
adam crigler
Yeah, I would.
tim pool
Yeah?
adam crigler
Yeah, I don't like what the Democrats are doing right now.
That's a good point.
I don't like Biden at all.
I want to understand what's happening, and I don't understand what he's saying.
Yeah.
That's a good point.
unidentified
Yeah.
they're gonna switch him out with someone that didn't earn their place there and that
Yeah.
adam crigler
that's a good point not okay with me at all that's not what we're about that's probably
tim pool
the best point I've heard about why not to support any Democrat if they switch out Joe
Biden for Cuomo they have knifed Bernie in the back yeah the entire democracy like oh
adam crigler
no we're just gonna put this person in because we think he has a chance it's like what we
think he has a chance like who's no no no this is NC mm-hmm if if if there was ever
tim pool
a reason to get me to vote for Trump the Democrats have found it yeah
Because I hate the idea of voting for the lesser of two evils, but to allow them to continue to subvert the democratic process, they cannot be allowed to get away with what they've done with Russiagate, with Adam Schiff's lying.
They can't.
And we learn more and more every day.
Like now Joe Biden is implicated in the unmasking.
He lied on TV about whether he knew about it.
It's ridiculous.
So is it a punishment vote?
I don't have TDS, right?
I don't think Donald Trump is the end of the world or some kind of like Antichrist or anything.
I think he's another guy, he's another president.
He's actually a lot better than some of the other presidents we have, but I personally, he would not be my choice.
However, do I have to do a vote of... Actually, I don't even think it's necessarily fair to call Trump one of the evils.
He's just not somebody I ultimately agree with on certain policy issues.
But for the most part, the Democrats haven't made any good arguments as to why I shouldn't agree with him on China tariffs, the building the wall, or anything like this.
So it leaves me in a position where I'm like, Well, I didn't used to, you know, be on board with— Well, I'm not on board with more conservative, you know, positions, probably like about taxing, social issues, maybe, you know, pro-life, pro-choice kind of stuff.
But for the most part, I think because the Democrats have gone so far off the rails, the conservatives have now built a coalition where you actually have pro-LGBT, pro-social issues.
You've got people like Ariel Scarcella, who is Not necessarily conservative, but you have the walk away campaign where you actually have people who are like what the liberals are now in the Trump camp.
So the issue I guess for me is for the most part is, I've already said over and over again, it's been easier than ever to consider Trump as the right choice for one reason.
adam crigler
You're just teasing everybody now.
tim pool
Not even.
It's because people want me to wave a flag and I'm not going to do it.
I never would.
adam crigler
That's true.
I mean, I'm not gonna go out and, like, put a Trump sign anywhere.
tim pool
I mean, figuratively.
adam crigler
It's like, we need the economy back, and you made a good point.
He did a great job bringing it up.
tim pool
That's the one issue.
adam crigler
Why wouldn't he do another good job instead of some random person that's gonna come in and have to relearn everything?
Or not necessarily relearn, but, you know.
tim pool
For three years.
The economy was improving and better than ever.
And now, because this virus hit, and it's not Trump's fault, it's the governors who wanted everything shut down.
It's the governors Trump has no power over.
That's the Tenth Amendment.
So who better to fix things than the guy who already proved that he could make the economy work?
That's the best argument possible, which, like I said in several videos, why it's easier than ever and why I'm leaning towards absolutely voting for him.
And more importantly, I said this, I think I said it today, The scary thing about... I will never vote for a Democrat.
At least for the time being.
Maybe in a few years.
And the reason is, you look at what they did with their power.
They lied to the American people.
They manipulated people.
They're trying to put in insane policies that have gone so far to the left, there's no cohesive strategy anymore.
And so if you actually believe in the policy of the Democrats from like the year 2010, the year 2000, the Republicans have won all those people over.
adam crigler
That's what it seems like, yeah.
tim pool
So independents are fairly split, but they do lean by about four points according to one of the most recent polls in favor of Trump.
And the Democrats, according to Gallup, we've now seen a decrease in the amount of people identifying as liberal and an increase in the amount of people identifying as conservative.
I have no problem saying, like, look, Joe Rogan came out and said he'd rather vote for Trump over Biden.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
I completely agree.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
I don't know what's going to happen come November.
So, like I said, I lean towards that.
It's been easier than ever to say.
But I'm not the kind of person.
I'm the milquetoast fence-sitter.
You will know when something happens where I'm like, it must be done.
But there's still third parties.
There's still things to talk about.
And I hate voting for someone I don't want to vote for simply because I really don't like the other party.
adam crigler
I agree with you on that.
tim pool
The other issue is, the Republicans need to do something about Mitch McConnell, people like Lindsey Graham.
There are a lot of Republicans who have sat on their hands and done nothing, and as far as I can tell, are probably part of the establishment problem that aren't being, you know, so we'll see what happens.
adam crigler
That I definitely agree with.
tim pool
But the other issue too is like, everything's changing.
The Republicans right now, the majority of them, like the people I know that are Trump supporters, I'm like, bro, you were liberal.
You know what I mean?
Like, there are people I know... Hi.
unidentified
Right.
lydia smith
Right, exactly.
tim pool
And it's crazy, you know, I don't want to name anybody because it should be up to them, but there's some people I'm talking to who are, like, as lefty as they come, and they're like, I don't know if I've become conservative or the left has gone nuts, and I'm like, does it matter?
adam crigler
Yeah, the left went nuts.
That's what happened.
tim pool
But then you end up with people who are regular, liberal-minded people who are now like, my only option is Trump, you know?
The problem I have is, like, people don't seem to realize Right, okay.
really is very, very different in terms of the professionalism, the character, and to
be honest, the stability of the office.
But boy was Obama bad.
Boy was Obama really bad.
And so was Bush.
Trump is nowhere near as bad as they were.
Trump's got a lot of problems.
He's increased drone strikes, the foreign policy stuff I've always been really mad about.
But it's like Joe Biden would bring back the failures of the Obama administration.
adam crigler
See, I don't know.
I wasn't political pretty much my whole life.
I was just to kind of live my own way.
And these past three months, it's been nothing but politics.
We were supposed to do a show about anything but politics.
And sure enough, now we're doing this.
tim pool
It's because of the lockdown, man.
adam crigler
Yeah, right, of course.
tim pool
I know.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, wow.
Sonic the Hedgehog, dude, that was awesome.
And then it's like, now the front page of every news story is like nothing but the fight over lockdown.
adam crigler
I know.
tim pool
Yep.
adam crigler
Yeah, wow.
tim pool
So, you know what, man?
The way they rigged it against Yang, like, you know.
adam crigler
They rigged it against Yang, is that true?
tim pool
I told you.
Oh, totally.
They turned his microphone off.
We talked about that.
What Donald Trump would do to him.
So it's almost like I can definitely feel the rage where I would love to give them comeuppance by seeing Trump win again.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But I'm very, very strict for myself on like, I want to vote for someone because I'm like, this is the best person for the job.
Yeah.
I've already said it a million times.
Trump right now, there's no one better.
In terms of the economy, that's what I mean.
There's a bunch of issues in foreign policy that I think they're better people.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Notably Tulsi.
adam crigler
Right, but she's not in the running.
She's not.
tim pool
But it's not even that.
I could vote for her if I want to.
adam crigler
What if Biden chose Tulsi as his VP?
tim pool
Nah, Biden is the Obama administration.
The Obama administration blooped kids.
adam crigler
So there's no way you would vote for Biden?
tim pool
Never.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
No way.
First of all, the dude's nuts, right?
adam crigler
I can agree with that.
That's funny.
tim pool
I think one of the biggest problems we have is that a lot of the fighting in this country comes down to how we waste resources on, like, this weird conflict in these foreign countries.
And, you know, it is really, really difficult.
adam crigler
We waste a lot more resources than on everything, just as simple being humans.
That's a huge problem that we have.
tim pool
I think there's probably better ways to deal with the Middle East situation, the conflict with China.
So I'll tell you what, man.
Man, it really is tough because character really does matter.
And I've said this over and over again.
The Democrats found someone that said very similar things to Trump in regards to policy ideas, securing our borders, bolstering our economy, dealing with the threat of China.
And he didn't, you know, he wasn't this bombastic entertainer type who was like, you know, just constantly... He wasn't Trump.
Yeah.
He probably went on a landslide.
So the question is, does Trump's character really matter that much?
And I don't think... Probably.
No, I mean, kind of, but not enough.
So right now, I would say, we'll see what happens.
I think based on the pandemic, Trump is the best choice.
Name any other politician in the running who's got the economic experience and the proof that they've fixed the economy.
adam crigler
I have no idea.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
You can hate Trump all you want.
And I got issues with the way he behaves.
I think he's funny.
He's a great entertainer.
adam crigler
He is.
tim pool
But it comes to the economy.
And I think there's a lot of people who are scared to admit it.
I mentioned this before, I saw a guy at the airport who said, I wouldn't invite him to my house for dinner, but the money's good.
And I think a lot of these people are secret Trump voters.
They don't want to admit that they're willing to pick someone they personally don't like because they get good money from the economy.
Lucky fix of the economy.
For me, it's simple.
The economy isn't some nebulous system of making rich people and getting people cash so they can laugh and go party.
It's so that we can make the machine work, like a well-oiled machine.
And under Trump, we had the best numbers of our lives, according to Jim Cramer.
He was also right about the problem of manufacturing with China, and now that the pandemic hit, it's like, listen, the left has been wrong on way too many things.
They've made no arguments against Trump's policies.
I mean, I'm being hyperbolic.
They've made very few.
adam crigler
A little.
tim pool
Very, very few arguments.
They call him a bigot.
They call him a racist.
They call him far-right.
None of it makes sense.
And so I'm asking, like, they're not going to offer me anything.
And I think that's the problem.
I think you've got to accept that Trump is a potty mouth who's a mean guy.
His own words.
But man, is he better than... He owns up to it.
...than what else you get.
So one of the problems with Biden, the reason why I would never vote for him, Imagine if Trump did that?
says he had a scandal-free presidency.
Barack Obama killed a 16-year-old American.
He killed a bunch of American citizens without charge or trial.
You'd think that would be a big scandal, but the press was defending him.
adam crigler
They were protecting him.
tim pool
Imagine if Trump did that.
Trump did it.
adam crigler
He killed Americans too?
tim pool
One of the first things that happened when Trump got into office was he ordered a commando
raid which resulted in the death of an 8-year-old American girl.
I believe it was Abdelrahman's little sister.
adam crigler
I've never heard of that.
tim pool
So these are things that I have serious issues with.
Now, some people have tried explaining this away to me, saying that, look, you know, Trump isn't a foreign policy guy, so he was being pressured by these bad advisors and he was surrounded by Deep State and blah blah blah, and I'm like, I'm willing to accept that if he does something about this.
And then when he announced he was going to start pulling troops out of Syria, and then you saw the media really went after him, I was like, these are good things.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And so perhaps it's aside from his character, there's a lot of really good things about Trump that we haven't seen in a long time.
But more importantly, first of all, I hate voting for people.
I hate being like, I got behind this person because you never know what they're going to do.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
The problem right now is we are facing a serious economic crisis.
And we got a guy who was in office for years who gave us a great economy.
I really don't know what else you could ask for.
So this is the point I'm making.
I am leaning absolutely in favor of voting for Trump.
I am not.
We're not there yet.
We're six months out.
adam crigler
Yeah, but we'll see.
tim pool
We'll see how it plays out.
And when I know for sure, like when I come out of that voting booth, if I said, you know what,
we got to do this, then I'll be on.
I'll be like, oh, I went and did it.
You know what I mean?
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
I just think there's you got to be careful, man.
Because, you know why I'm like, tepid on this?
No, because I voted for Obama the first time.
adam crigler
Me too.
tim pool
And then, you know what he did?
He blew up a village of women and children.
And I had to go to my friends and be like, eh, I supported that.
And that's why I'm like, I don't wanna play that game, dude.
You fooled me once.
So...
Drones it was a drone strike like 23 women and children and then all my friends who are dancing around
I'm like so now do I have to come here and be like?
The people I knew who didn't vote for Obama were like see what you've done
And I'm like what would McCain have done something else and they're like no excuse and I'm like there's no excuse
We don't know what McCain would have done Obama did it Obama did it's way worse, but they're saying it's your
fault though No, it was just like the point was like you voted for it
And it reminds me of what George Carlin said.
adam crigler
That's virtue signaling.
tim pool
Remember what George Carlin said?
He was like, people always blame me saying, you didn't vote.
It's your fault.
I know you voted for him.
It's your fault.
And I'm like, I agree.
Like, that's why I in 2016, I didn't vote.
I was like, I don't know, man.
I don't want to be involved in this.
But I think regardless of your feelings on Trump, the economy is really important.
We've got people who are in trouble.
adam crigler
It's like one of the most important things we need to get going again right now.
It's like if we don't, so many people are going to die.
They think the coronavirus is bad?
Like, no.
When the food stops coming and people start killing each other over food, that's going to be what's next.
if we don't get the economy going so all I can think it's like we need to get this economy going
what who's good for the economy what trump he did a good job with the economy it's like I was never
really a trump fan you know and I don't know I don't know Biden but anytime I hear him speak I'm
like oh stop speaking dude no just stop please the wall thing is funny the build the wall the big
tim pool
beautiful wall from sea to shining sea and I roll my eyes I'm like yeah we were watching family you
see that clip from family guy earlier we were watching we're talking about this stuff well
this is funny they uh they were in Mexico okay like the Griffins with quagmire and then Consuela
helps them escape okay and And then they're like, thanks Consuela.
And they're like, now how far to America?
And she's like, this is Texas.
And then they're like, what?
And Quagmire goes, wait a minute, you mean we just walked into America?
There was nothing there.
We just literally walked in.
He's like, come on guys, politics aside, we agree this is a problem, right?
And then they all look at him and the scene cuts.
lydia smith
I'm like, what was this?
unidentified
Like Seth MacFarlane just coming straight up being like, why is there no...
tim pool
So, uh, yeah, there's a lot of bombastic, hyperbolic, silly I roll my eyes at, but nah, man, we need that economy.
We do.
We do.
We need it.
So we'll see how things play out.
But that's that's what I've said before.
And it's funny because, like, a lot of Trump people act like I've not said this.
I'm like, I said this three months ago.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, we'll see how it plays out, man.
We really got to get to these super chats.
lydia smith
Holy cow.
Do we have to get to these super chats?
tim pool
We're not going to make it because...
It was a good episode, though.
It was good fun.
lydia smith
It was very fun.
unidentified
Alright, where we at?
tim pool
Where we at?
Graf Von Tiro says, how General Flynn is being railroaded is disgusting.
Time to put a kibosh on the whole circus and pardon him.
Face it.
Democrats, face it Democrats, Russiagate is the political journalistic equivalent of the
Piltdown Man.
I don't know what that is.
King Mad Hatter says, Can you explain to a non-American how you can drone on and on about freedom but can't have chickens?
I can have 200 ducks chickens before government gets involved.
I have six ducks.
I know!
lydia smith
Two words.
New Jersey.
tim pool
I want chickens.
Me too.
The Grizzly says, what's wrong with Michigan?
That's a rather simple answer.
Detroit is what's wrong with Michigan.
I'm from there.
Out of state in Florida.
May move here permanently.
The thing is that Whitmer's making the entire state locked down because of Detroit.
That's what it is in most states.
adam crigler
That makes sense.
tim pool
New York City goes bad, lock the whole state down.
adam crigler
Because they can.
tim pool
And then New Jersey, like right across, like Newark on the other side, or Jersey City, it's like, it's the same metro, man.
adam crigler
Well, it's funny, because Jersey is almost, I mean, I know there's a lot of, like, foresty areas, but there's so many suburbs here.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
The suburbs of Philadelphia, and suburbs of New York City, and it's just like one big suburb state, almost.
tim pool
Right, yeah.
adam crigler
You know, where all the people commute, they commute down to D.C.
probably from here.
Yep.
tim pool
Ah, man.
Yeah, we live in the suburbs of big cities.
adam crigler
Kind of makes sense, yeah.
tim pool
Big Al says, Average age of COVID deaths in most places are higher than life expectancy of human beings.
90% over 60, 90% underlying conditions.
Fact check me.
No, I'm pretty sure that's correct.
Nope Nope says, If that 40 foot pipe fell from outer space, why is it so straight?
adam crigler
Good question.
tim pool
The Grizzly adds, even though areas like Kalamazoo has a grand total of 11 cases since the start of the outbreak, a lot of rural counties are starting to rise up.
The outcome will be the same with California and New York.
Violent uprising than a full civil war.
We'll see.
We'll see about that.
But we did have a story where armed militia are blocking a bar saying the police will not arrest this barbershop.
I'm sorry, not a bar, a barbershop.
adam crigler
Yeah, in Michigan.
tim pool
Right.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
Yeah, they're like, no dice.
adam crigler
Yeah, the 77-year-old was like, I'm gonna open my barbershop, keep it open, whatever.
tim pool
That's crazy.
There are parts, I was reading something, I can't remember which state, but it's very similar.
The entire state has no cases and they lock down.
There's like one city with a small handful of cases, so they lock down rural parts that have almost no contact with other parts of the state.
The weirdest thing.
adam crigler
Yep.
Power.
tim pool
Yep.
Ella Mondorius says, Hey Tim, do you think that Democrats are aware that they're hindering their chances of re-election by talking about permanent lockdowns?
Or would they be safe from zombies in the apocalypse?
I think they must be trying to help Trump.
It's the only thing I can think of.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Like everything I just said in my rant about what they're doing.
They were like, the DNC is like, we really need to make sure Trump wins.
Biden.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
There you go.
tim pool
I will see, I guess.
Eggman says, calling it now, that Chinese rocket was carrying COVID-20.
I knew it!
Or super corona.
Luckily, the made in China quality saved us all.
There you go.
James says, so hopefully the Space Force isn't going to have to be a glorified trash cleanup service.
There is so much junk up there.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
Definitely.
adam crigler
And it probably will.
tim pool
Really bad.
adam crigler
It probably will.
tim pool
Michelle, thanks for the super chat.
Jerry says, so what you're saying, something made in China falls apart?
That's not rocket science.
Haha, get it?
lydia smith
Love it.
adam crigler
I get it.
tim pool
Carl says, earmarked for van maintenance.
Appreciate it.
We do have to do maintenance after that big trip.
Shedick X says, Tim, here's some Trump bucks, and have you heard BuzzFeed shut their doors in Australia and UK?
It's only a matter of time when they close in the U.S.
Whoa!
adam crigler
Oh, you haven't heard that?
tim pool
Maybe that's why Ben left?
adam crigler
Yeah, maybe.
tim pool
People were speculating, like, are you leaving because it's collapsing?
And he's like, no, no, no, it's just an opportunity.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Golden pair.
Like the people at the top get the warning, like, go, go, go, take the job, take the job.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Alright, where we at?
This is a straight-up land grab.
Wow!
That's what they're doing, man.
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
Wait, wait!
Just gave themselves right of first refusal on defaulted properties. This is a straight-up land grab Wow
That's what they're doing man. Whoa Alex Aiello says Tim keep an eye on Michigan tomorrow
There's going to be another protest and Antifa is going to be counter protesting wait wait
Antifa's gonna be protesting in favor of the government That doesn't make any sense yeah the pro fat protifa
Wait what Pro what pro no it would be protifa. It would be pro profesh
funny. What what profile?
Check Detroit news Whitmer outlawed brandishing weapons and changed the definition to include open carry Wow
Christian, thanks for the super chat.
Bobcat says, the Rods from God is more of a bunker buster than a city buster.
Also, can you talk about the disappearing mail-in ballots?
I did see that story a few days ago, but we don't have anything pulled up on it.
Kojima Fire says, this is a question for the Beanie Bros.
As it starts to warm up here, all I have are winter beanies.
Could you recommend any light ones for me?
The DC clap beanie is one that I often use.
Go to skate shops.
Skateboarders wear beanies in the summer because they're really thin.
It's like, there's also surf beanies.
adam crigler
I actually don't really wear beanies that often.
unidentified
No?
adam crigler
Yeah, pretty much.
tim pool
You're just trying to get with the show, you know?
adam crigler
I was.
It's true.
I saw your beanie and I was so jealous.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
So I had to do it.
No, I mean, I have a beanie.
It's mostly for just keeping the hair out of my face, but I usually just tie it back and forget it.
tim pool
When I'm getting serious like today.
adam crigler
It's just laziness, honestly.
tim pool
There's one trick that's always eluded me.
I can do crazy tricks, man.
I can do nollie half hardflip late flips.
I can do fakie hardflip fakie ghetto birds.
I can do late flips, but frontside flips have always... I can do a switch frontside flip, nollie backside flip, fakie frontside flip, a regular frontside flip.
adam crigler
You landed it today.
Yeah, I'll count it.
tim pool
It was really bad.
I did one yesterday.
adam crigler
You landed it.
tim pool
So I argue I can do it, but it's always eluded me.
adam crigler
You landed it.
tim pool
I had to get serious.
The beanie came off.
adam crigler
It was interesting.
He took the beanie off.
tim pool
I was mad.
adam crigler
He was focused.
I saw it, but then he landed it though.
tim pool
So when we're skating periodically, I have to drain the beanie.
lydia smith
He does.
tim pool
I'm telling you, man, skating without something blocking the sweat.
It's like in your eyes and your face.
Yeah.
adam crigler
I'm constantly having to wipe my glasses down.
I wish I had contacts because I would love to skate in context.
tim pool
All right.
Let's see.
Where are we at?
Where are we at?
Ogre says the rod weapon you're talking about is called the rods from God.
These air force rods from God could hit with the force of a nuclear weapon.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Jeremiah says, hey Lydia, if you knit, apparently well-knit masks are said to be better at excluding pathogens than textile masks.
unidentified
Interesting.
tim pool
If you want to make some forecast.
unidentified
Very cool.
Cool.
tim pool
St.
Grizzly says, please do a video game stream or gameplay videos like PewDiePie will watch it.
Tony Hawk, when that demo comes out.
unidentified
We can do it!
It'll be so fun!
tim pool
We should just make a new channel for it.
adam crigler
Wait, I thought you said the demo was out.
unidentified
No.
adam crigler
Oh, it's not out.
tim pool
I thought it was out.
They said, pre-order get the demo now.
And I'm like, yes.
And I pre-ordered.
I was like, we'll let you know when the demo's out.
adam crigler
You mother... I wanted to say something, but it was a swear.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
K98 says 3.7 million NIH grant to EcoHealth Alliance to study bat coronaviruses in Wuhan Institute of Virology and gain of function methods worth looking into.
It is.
That guy who shrugs says, hey Tim, check out the story about Fresno official assaulting protesters.
He got three misdemeanors of assault.
Watch all footage, it's crazy.
They then caught CBS lying when they came on scene saying they were attempting to break in.
I did see that story's nuts.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Waterdanger says, Tim the Rogue, Adam the Bard, Lydia the Cleric, Ian the Wizard.
Forgot Ian last name.
The Wizard.
adam crigler
Crossland.
Oh, last time.
tim pool
Democracy says, in the future, could you and all you other YouTubers possibly provide links for articles you are reading in the descriptions below?
Thanks.
I don't want to ask for a manager.
Okay.
So, there's issues with that because This may be an urban legend, and YouTube has talked about it, but putting external links in YouTube videos, YouTube suppresses those videos.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Because they don't want you driving traffic off of YouTube.
So what I did was, I made it so that the URL of all of the videos appears in the video, so you can actually see it at top.
adam crigler
Oh, that makes sense.
tim pool
Boom.
Well, but there you go.
There you go.
They're all in there.
careful about you you to get their finger over the band button so i i i i
adam crigler
have a go they go dot they're all in there whenever he uses something it is
tim pool
it is it is that sometimes the u r l's have like weird strings of nonsense and
adam crigler
it's hard to source i mean
face book is training it's a i two sensor hateful means You type that up in a search engine, that article's gonna come up.
tim pool
I try to be very, very careful about what... I know a whole lot about how YouTube's algorithm works and the things they do.
They've claimed this is not true.
I don't believe them.
Because they also have a link approval system where if you want to put links in your videos that you can click on, you've got to get it approved.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, so if you want to do a card where it's like, here's my website, it's got to be some approved website.
So I'm like, I really don't believe it.
So people ask me all the time, and this is what I always say, YouTube will suppress this so no one ever sees it, so the best I can do is show you.
Here's the site, here's the link.
And I gotta be honest, man, when people ask for this, I'm like, you really could just Google what I said.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It's the same amount of time.
tim pool
Right, you type in the bar.
adam crigler
Open a new page.
tim pool
Like, Facebook is training its AI.
Type in Facebook is training its AI, enter, and boom, it'll pop up.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
You know?
adam crigler
Come on, people.
tim pool
Yeah.
I mean, it's a delicate dance, you know?
All right, let's see.
Elamondria says, the cat needs to be part of the program forever.
You know, I was thinking about putting the cat tower, and then you have the cat sleeping in it.
That'd be fun.
Because then people would be watching, and then, you know, Buku and Betsy would be doing weird stuff, probably fighting each other.
adam crigler
No, they don't climb it at the same time.
tim pool
No, but I mean like the individually when they're on it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You'd be like watching the cat lick their paw.
Didactics with David Lopez says, I live in Los Angeles and I can promise you that people will revolt.
Rioting is in our city's heritage.
Get the popcorn.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
Indefinite lockdown?
We'll see.
adam crigler
Wouldn't surprise me.
tim pool
Spartan says, Hey Tim, just quit my job at a warehouse last week when they started making masks mandatory.
Makes no sense to require it now.
Making more money working at a local butcher shop.
Hey, good for you.
adam crigler
Nice.
tim pool
It's funny because they were like, masks don't work, don't wear masks.
Now you should wear masks.
adam crigler
Now that we have all our masks covered, you can go ahead and wear them.
tim pool
Yeah. Arturo Caliente says the S will really hit the fan once the recession hits. Job loss,
tax rise, decades to recover. We only passed the prologue of the COVID saga.
True. The true economic impact has not hit yet.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
And even if they lift every restriction now, three months from now you will feel it.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And so I see a lot of people saying, the moment you get those Trump bucks, you need to buy something tangible that retains value because the moment they print the money and it drops in your account, the value, the buying power of the dollar starts dramatically going down.
So, I don't know what you should do.
I like, you know, getting things that, like, I buy tools and stuff.
Things that are useful.
But, what can you say?
I'm not an economist.
Stacey Ellis says, It is called the Thousand Talents Plan, created in 2008.
That's the Chinese people at the universities.
Emily Payton says, High five Soy Jesus for no allergies club.
Lucky.
Andrew Starr says, Adam, your mane is luxurious.
If I was a lioness, I would say grr.
And then there are many lion emojis and laughing emojis.
adam crigler
Can I have a high five now?
Thank you.
tim pool
Blade Spade says, you can't just drop a giant rod from a stable orbit.
To actually get back to Earth, you have to thrust against your orbital vector.
Hollywood deeply misunderstands orbital flight mechanics.
I would take Blade Spade's word over this than Hollywood, for sure.
Stupid Monkey says, the COVID-19 virus lockdown never being cured equals the 1984 Novel Wars.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Azazel, we're literally living in the plot to Captain America Winter Soldier.
Ebrock, thanks for becoming a member.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Hard work, no handouts.
Thanks for the super chat.
Tucky says, any thoughts on Andrew Yang being a political commentator on CNN?
I don't care.
You know, good for him.
I trust him.
I like the guy.
I'm skeptical on UBI, but I think he had a ton of really awesome policies.
That's why I kind of liked him.
He actually did have one of the best arguments for UBI.
It is particularly complicated, as always.
But good, I'm glad.
You know, with him being on CNN, perhaps he will bring about some better commentary and probably, you know, bring some honesty a little bit.
Nobody's perfect.
adam crigler
Read this next one.
tim pool
Which one?
adam crigler
The next one.
tim pool
Wesley Velasquez says, Adam has an Instagram powered by Facebook.
adam crigler
So I was saying, I don't have Facebook on my phone.
But then Facebook bought Instagram.
And I've had Instagram on my phone for a long time.
tim pool
That's right.
adam crigler
But now it's owned by Facebook.
They know when I poop!
unidentified
Oh no!
tim pool
Yes, they do.
They absolutely do.
They're tracking you, brother.
Solid Scratch says, when are you upping your game from t-shirts to beanies?
That's this guy.
He's got a... Well, we're under a lockdown.
adam crigler
Yeah, they actually... The company that makes beanies started making beanies again.
And I was like, oh, cool.
I would like to make a dual-colored beanie like this.
And they said, oh, we're not doing custom beanies.
We're only doing solid colors now because that's all we can do because we're shut down.
And I'm like, no!
We were this close, people.
But we're this far away still.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
Jeff M says, if I cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs, I am sending all of my poop social media offices via UPS, showing social media what Brown can do for us.
That's the UPS slogan, right?
lydia smith
Yep, what Brown can do for you.
tim pool
Fearless Soldier says, watch the hated one on YouTube.
He's a privacy guy that does tutorials.
Also, what do you think about the movie The Great Hack about Cambridge Analytica?
adam crigler
Never saw it?
tim pool
I haven't seen it.
Um, but I know Brittany Kaiser personally.
I've known her for over a decade.
And, uh, she's actually been my roommate at one point.
Recently.
Wait, I think during that.
unidentified
Oh.
Yeah.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
I actually, uh, had a bunch of her stuff for a long time.
Yeah, I, we had to throw away... Great story.
There was a mattress.
unidentified
Quite the twist.
adam crigler
Wait, wait, think about, do we need to know this information?
tim pool
It has to do with the cat.
unidentified
I'll leave it there.
tim pool
You know what cats do to mattresses.
unidentified
Make it garbage.
Jerks.
tim pool
I haven't actually seen The Great Hack, but I probably know a lot of weird stuff about this that's irrelevant.
I actually don't know a whole lot about it in terms of what actually matters in politics.
Jack says, you can turn off FB ads.
I get very few ads on FB.
Oh, cool.
I don't know anything about it.
says at least Amazon only wants to sell you stuff and uses the site's algorithm accordingly.
Google and Facebook creeps me out to no end. That I agree with. Lucas says Tim Ref, Chuck
Todd meet the press. Meet the press is the longest running TV show on the air since 1947.
It is like the New York Times of news shows. He has turned a legacy news show into a clown
show on NBC. He really has. He is laughable, laughably ignorant and naive. It is bad. I
i don't know and brutal david marcello uh... marcellus
FB tracks all the apps you use.
If you go into the settings, there is one for offline activity, and it'll show you all the apps you use.
Banking, SM, and they make a big deal about turning it off.
Wow.
Chuck Morris says, I like typing random things into Google.
I'm getting ads for horse liniment.
I live in an apartment.
unidentified
Wow.
All right.
adam crigler
Random.
tim pool
Bert says, we need you in the UK to tear apart our BS media.
Just tell Sargon.
He goes, hey, Sargon, you gotta do it.
He does it, right?
He called them dirty, dirty smear merchants.
And then everyone started using that phrase.
I love it.
lydia smith
Fantastic.
tim pool
Dirty smear merchants.
Jeb Reed says, I got ads for guillotine, tar feathers, t-beanie, night vision goggles, ammo.
Seems Google has me nailed.
unidentified
There you go.
tim pool
Nikki D says, not surprised about the rocket.
Most things I buy that come from China fall apart as soon as after I use them as well.
Madamch.
Jake says, thank you for explaining Facebook's advertising algorithm.
I just started getting hip to this fact after realizing the ads were showing me things that I was only thinking about.
Wow.
Creepy.
Marcia, uh, Marcia, Marcia Levine.
Yes.
unidentified
Is that, I got it right?
You got it?
lydia smith
Yep.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm sending this just to see if Tim remembers how to pronounce my name.
lydia smith
Oh, look at that.
tim pool
I was close enough.
Money helps your memory, or so I've heard.
Did it work?
unidentified
Cheers.
That's funny.
It did, right?
adam crigler
Thanks for that super chat.
unidentified
What a lovely lady.
tim pool
Laura Ren, thanks for becoming a member.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Jake says the NRC in Canada has just approved clinical trials of a potential COVID vaccine made in China to happen in Canada, a.k.a.
we're China's guinea pigs.
adam crigler
Great.
tim pool
Matthew says, are we going to see a Tim Pool cameo in the new Tony Hawk game?
unidentified
No.
That'd be cool.
tim pool
I gotta make some skate videos.
Carl's Jr.
says, Brainlets ads are targeted to you, not who you watch.
I see nonsense because I anonymize myself.
Right.
Definitely.
Mark says, so China's sending the next batch of Hornets to the U.S.
in the form of rocket debris.
Purple says, driving from Colorado to New York for a funeral while listening to you guys.
Wish me luck.
We just drove across the country.
I think you'll make it.
lydia smith
You got this.
tim pool
Let's see.
Bart Lomiege?
There is a lot of device ID tech that uses frequency around 19 kilohertz.
Also, talked with housemates about strainer for kitchen.
And in WhatsApp, 30 minutes later, we all got advertisements that is not algorithmic.
Interesting.
Maybe, maybe.
Star Wars guy says, Lydia, show your Blank 182 shirt, my favorite band.
lydia smith
Oh, hold on one sec.
Here we go.
adam crigler
You gotta stand up a little bit, come on.
lydia smith
Yeah, here.
adam crigler
Gotta give them the full...
There it is, boom!
It's pretty good, it's pretty good.
lydia smith
That's the name of a song.
adam crigler
You're the only thing that matters.
lydia smith
Yeah, it's called You're the Only Thing That Matters.
It's really good.
tim pool
Jeremiah says, Lydia, do you want me to timestamp swears for you?
Did we swear?
lydia smith
No, I got this.
They didn't swear tonight.
adam crigler
I don't think I swore.
lydia smith
No, they did great tonight.
I got all the timestamps.
adam crigler
Oh, no, every time Tim swears.
Is that what it says?
tim pool
Every time Tim swears?
lydia smith
Tim never swears.
tim pool
Do you want me to timestamp swears for you?
adam crigler
Oh, OK.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Tim stamp.
tim pool
Terrell says, Biden is having AOC to be a climate consultant.
Already wants a female VP.
He sniffs women's hair.
Is Biden building a harem?
Biden is gross.
lydia smith
Harem?
tim pool
Steven says, the anti-aging drug was a plot point in a book series by Peter F. Hamilton.
There were people who were over a thousand years old.
Pandora's Star is a great series.
You should check it out.
Have you ever read that?
adam crigler
No.
It's cool, though.
tim pool
Marsha says, we need to get off this mud ball before we develop extended lifetimes.
If we had the universe to populate, it wouldn't be an issue.
adam crigler
Yep.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
If I was immortal, I would want to search the stars, or else I would go crazy here on Earth.
tim pool
Well, you can just float around.
Ten million years, you'll land somewhere.
adam crigler
Yeah, hopefully.
Or just keep floating forever.
We are expanding.
tim pool
Yep, that's, yep.
Metheral says, so BeanieCast, why do you think old and new punks, anarchists, tend to side with authoritarian measures even though it goes against the very meaning of being punk?
lydia smith
I wondered this in high school.
tim pool
Because they're fake and they never were punk.
lydia smith
Aha!
adam crigler
Boom!
tim pool
That's it.
adam crigler
That's it, I know.
tim pool
That's why I'm still all about liberty and rejecting this when in 2010 I had the same, you know, similar positions and have been about freedom.
adam crigler
Sorry if that was a little loud, everybody.
tim pool
But it's like, The people you nailed it is so good.
It was pop culture.
adam crigler
Yeah, it was it was cool to be punk, right?
Right, they never actually I know some real punks like punk rockers in in New York, and they're serious, man I look forward to seeing this does not describe real punkers, right?
Yeah, so it is gonna be the fake ones that want to be cool.
tim pool
Oh If Antifa really shows up to protest in favor of the government, it will be the funniest thing.
adam crigler
It'll be like... It's still kind of funny to think about it.
Like, what?
tim pool
Totally.
adam crigler
What are they really doing?
tim pool
We're anti-fascist, so we're going to defend the government controlling whether or not you're allowed to go outside.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Pro-fa.
adam crigler
Pro-fa.
unidentified
If I tweeted pro-fa... Pro-tifa was funny.
tim pool
But it's anti-fa, pro-tifa.
adam crigler
It's just funny.
tim pool
Okay, so I have bad news.
We're gonna have to speed things up.
adam crigler
No!
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Oh, we're already over.
unidentified
Wow.
Yeah, we're over.
lydia smith
Way over.
tim pool
Josh in Jesus says, Tim, I have long believed the people of antediluvian times had technology as advanced as ours, if not more so.
Have you ever looked into that?
I have not.
I don't know.
lydia smith
Right after the flood, I think?
unidentified
A flood?
lydia smith
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh cool.
tim pool
Alex Oakley says, I sent you guys a DVD called Expelled, no intelligence allowed.
I got home and realized I forgot to put in the note I wrote.
It's about the world of academia with Ben Stein.
Hope you guys enjoy it.
Cool, check it out.
unidentified
Oh, cool.
tim pool
Right on.
Jeffrey McCorbin says, Charlie Chaplin once said, so long as men die, liberty shall never
With that in mind, immortality could bring some unintended consequences.
Definitely.
Stormwolf says, just bought a car and said I wouldn't use tollways.
The next day, Google automatically changed the settings on maps to avoid tolls.
I was freaked.
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
That's creepy.
real every day. Conjecture equals opinion. Hypothesis equals unfalsified proposition.
Theory equals fully tested models shown to make accurate repeatable predictions.
The peak of scientific inquiry. No one develops a theory.
Cassidy Harvey says about being young forever, check out the book Future by Dmitri Glukhovsky.
Glukovsky.
Earth is so overpopulated because people don't age.
So if you have a kid, one of the parents must die off so the child can live.
adam crigler
Whoa.
Interesting.
tim pool
Alright, we're going to start speeding things up, guys.
I apologize if we can't read your comments, but we're going over because we're getting too many awesome superchats.
adam crigler
There was a super chat that I saw earlier that someone got, is a tattoo artist and got two skate decks.
I saw your comment and I think we're going to have to skip it, but they were asking where we send it.
Where do they find that PO box?
tim pool
Timcast.com slash donate.
adam crigler
So go to timcast.com slash donate.
And that'll be where you can find the PO box to send some skate decks.
Cause that was really cool.
And I appreciate that.
I think we might actually have to skip your, your super chat, but thank you.
tim pool
I can actually only techdeck with my left hand for some reason.
adam crigler
That's weird.
tim pool
Yeah, it's because I'm ambidextrous.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Yep, so I'm lefty with techdecks.
adam crigler
Weirdo.
tim pool
Yep.
Betafastachipa says, is it illegal to draft a person below 83 IQ?
It is illegal to draft a person below 83 IQ because there is literally no job they can do without being counterproductive.
How many people is that, you ask?
10% of the population.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
Rilo704 says, hey guys, some friend from work and I are going to GA Guidestones this weekend, and maybe Hatteras.
Hatteras?
NC, next week to check out UFO and pirate stuff.
Eff a lockdown, I want to see conspiracy stuff.
unidentified
Nice.
tim pool
It's always fun.
Chaotic says, hello from Canada, friends.
I'm grateful for the work you guys do every day, trying to bring us rational information and discussion.
I feel the fear over the authoritarian power grab, but at least you have a system to stop it.
Technically, they're turning the Constitution into Swiss cheese though, so you know.
Two Rivers Lad says, how is fascism far right?
It's an outgrowth of socialism and advocates large government bureaucracies.
I thought the right of the political compass advocated for small government and far right no government.
The conflict here is the definition of what left and right means.
There's cultural left and right, economic left and right, and the cultural left and right is where people usually refer to fascism as far right, because the cultural spectrum is progressive versus traditional.
You tend to see an overlap with the progressives wanting socialism, but there is a way to invert this.
What ends up happening is, the far left, because it tends to be both culturally left and economically left, is associated generally with the left, which confuses people when you then talk about, like, communists who, or like, Like, ultra-traditional capitalism is far-right.
It's weird and it's colloquial language that makes very little sense.
That's the easiest way to break it down.
Easiest way to explain to somebody?
Ask them what they're referring to when they say left or right.
Are they talking about American political factions, culture war factions, or traditional versus progressive, or laissez-faire versus communism?
Adam Bird says, I'm in the hospital with pneumonia, viral colitis, and fever.
They have tested me for COVID-19 three times.
All have come back negative.
They keep telling me because of your symptoms, we have to blame it on COVID-19.
Oh my gosh.
adam crigler
What?
unidentified
Viral colitis?
adam crigler
It came up negative three times?
tim pool
But they're like, it must be.
It must be.
unidentified
Holy cow.
tim pool
It's like, no, you can't, you know.
adam crigler
That's crazy.
tim pool
Kale says, Mambis.
adam crigler
Mambis.
tim pool
Vashtz says, let's be real.
The reason these people are complaining about the links is it's not their links.
Not that they have some problem with the link sharing, allegedly.
Right, exactly.
In reference to the BuzzFeed stuff.
adam crigler
Yep, exactly.
tim pool
Gabriel McLeod says, Google data mines the cookies on your computer to feed into their AdSense and other advertising programs.
I have no idea.
Oh yeah, the fruit.
Yeah, I don't know.
Has told me that in some people the virus does not shed in the nasal cavity or in the back of the throat
this makes me wonder how accurate the tests are didn't some test like a
Papaya or something or a poopoo fruit or whatever was called tested positive. Oh, yeah
Yeah, yeah, right Sherry social says my liberal friend has a small business
She vented to me that their shop will close and that the small biz association screwed her over we live in CA
How do I respond if I'm more conservative love y'all?
Look man, if people are still gonna vote for these same people, then what do you do? I give you
You reap what you sow, you know?
adam crigler
I don't know.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Douchebaggins!
unidentified
Sorry.
adam crigler
Say sorry.
tim pool
Douchebaggins.
California has the largest population of homeless of any state in the U.S.
They are largely not social distancing or wearing masks.
Why don't we see a massive outbreak of the Voldemort virus among the homeless population?
Very good question.
adam crigler
I thought we were.
tim pool
At one homeless shelter, we saw an outbreak.
lydia smith
Yeah, and most of them were asymptomatic, I think.
tim pool
It's because they're outside.
That really is it.
The vitamin D. It's the vitamin D, and it's like, they're not necessarily social distancing, but they're not huddled together in cafes and offices.
adam crigler
You know what?
They probably are really resilient against a lot of bacteria and viruses, though.
tim pool
That's true.
adam crigler
They're living on the street.
They're engaging with millions of people all of the time.
tim pool
They're not engaging with a lot of people.
adam crigler
They're probably prepped in strong, resilient bodies.
No joke!
tim pool
They're not engaging with a lot of people.
adam crigler
Well, I mean, some people are.
Like, hey, do you have any money?
Hey, do you have any money?
Hey, do you have any money?
tim pool
That's true.
Maybe.
It depends on the homeless person, I guess.
So I think one of the things is regular people go to Starbucks.
Tons of people.
Everyone touching everything.
They go to office.
Everyone touching everything.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
Homeless person outside.
Sunlight disinfectant.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
With their shopping cart walking around.
They're not in those environments.
adam crigler
It's true.
tim pool
Big ol' jump.
adam crigler
I just saw that, yeah.
Thanks, everybody.
Appreciate you guys.
tim pool
I gotta figure out, uh... Where we were.
Yup, yup.
Yeah, that's the thing.
We got tons, tons and tons of superchats.
There are so many.
There we go.
Found it!
TheGrizzly says, Last point.
Violence between the urban and rural areas is inevitable due to the culture differences.
The right is more used to and willing to resort to violence rather than the left.
They are more willing to start violence.
The right is?
The left is more willing to start it.
They just can't go that far, I think.
Lauren Wren says, Tim, I have enjoyed sharing in your journey.
Been a fan since Occupy Wall Street.
Also, I got my Patriot supply.
Hubby and I had creamy alfredo and kielbasa for dinner.
Thanks and love you men.
Well, you're not supposed to eat it right now.
unidentified
You're supposed to save it.
lydia smith
Sure, you gotta try it.
tim pool
But I'm glad you got it.
We haven't touched ours.
We've got just the thing sitting in the closet.
But we did go to the store and buy a bunch of beans and stuff.
We have been eating, you know, through it.
Because I'm not, you know, anticipating an apocalypse for the most part.
Big Mitch says, pool and crickler.
I'm a tattooer and actually just ordered two decks.
Oh, that's the one you mentioned.
adam crigler
Oh, you found his?
unidentified
There it is.
adam crigler
Nice, there it is.
tim pool
Timcast.com slash donut is a P.O.
unidentified
box.
tim pool
Send us whatever you like.
adam crigler
What is it, Big Mitch?
tim pool
Big Mitch!
adam crigler
Thank you, Big Mitch.
tim pool
We will get the boards.
adam crigler
Nice.
tim pool
Blackrockbeacon says, I share all your videos and Scanner, Styx, Sargon, and other independents.
It's time for the rise of new media.
I'm doing everything I can to support you and other independent journalists and commentators on Mines, etc.
Keep it up.
Appreciate it.
Nice.
Mr. Paul R says, kudos to surpassing Young Turks in growth in under a year.
You separate sense from nonsense, is why people gravitate towards you.
TP.
Keanu Reeves is Johnny Demonic.
Jack and still don't like Fredo.
What is it?
Jack and still don't like Fredo Cuomo is fake.
Wuhan flu Greta expert and what a ho joke.
Alright.
Jack Daw says, when will you have Stefan Molyneux on the show?
I don't know?
unidentified
I don't know.
I don't know.
tim pool
I don't know a lot about him.
I met him one time, but I don't really follow him all that much.
I did watch some of the video he put out on the Arbery case.
Clear, thanks for becoming a member.
Thank you.
I hesitate on the guest thing because it's like, I think we might not even have guests moving forward since the COVID thing kind of just broke everything.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And I'm like, I don't even know.
Like, should I?
Yeah, I don't even know what we're going to do.
adam crigler
But we will review movies.
tim pool
Oh, yes.
lydia smith
I cannot wait.
unidentified
I can't wait.
adam crigler
We can go to the drive-in.
That's becoming a thing.
tim pool
We can review Trolls World Tour right now, man.
lydia smith
Oh no.
tim pool
Yeah, it's made all this money, it's on demand.
adam crigler
I just lost all of my enthusiasm.
lydia smith
I know, right?
tim pool
Alright, let's read, let's read, let's read.
A handy redneck says, suggestion, next time you have news overload, like you seem to have had yesterday, why not just do an AdamCast deep dive on a non-news subject, just saying, we like you folks.
adam crigler
Well, on that, I mean, I guess that, like, can I take this one?
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Yeah.
Well, so I found out I usually when I was doing AdamCast, I would come up with the subjects myself.
Neither of them were here.
And both we all do story a story discussion before the show.
So it's a lot easier.
It's not just on me.
I mean, Ian actually was coming up with some ideas, too.
we're bouncing off each other but I found out. Pretty much like 3040
minutes right for the the start of the show so I didn't have anything. Ready and I wasn't. But I mean.
Enough people have suggested this so that I should just have
a deep dive ready to go like someone to really do an episode on. Which I probably will. Yep so
tim pool
that's that's actually on yeah. That's actually what we figured because
it wasn't it wasn't news overload necessarily it was that there
was like. The stories were all extremely weak so it required
a lot of research. And it was yeah it's a Yeah, exactly.
And so then the general idea was, like, that's a day that, you know, when I'm, like, collapsed on the floor and, like, drenched in sweat, Adam can just, you know, run an Atomcast or something.
That's what we'll probably do.
We'll probably do it.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Josh Separate says, Arbery case.
The electrician says, isn't good to be in under construction home.
If Georgia has duty to, uh, duty to retreat, Arbery has problem due to charging the guy with gun when there was another way to run.
That's, I know, and nobody wants to bring that point up.
Arbery didn't have to run into, in their direction.
adam crigler
Didn't he run right up to them?
tim pool
So the guy is in the street.
He turns right and goes around the truck and then attacks him.
I don't know.
unidentified
I don't know, man.
adam crigler
I don't.
tim pool
But the left is always lying about these things.
Like, it's Jesse Smollett.
adam crigler
I just don't know enough stuff.
Yeah.
And it's like everything that they say, it doesn't really fit the narrative of what I've heard.
So.
tim pool
Like Fry Like Fry says Adam.
adam crigler
What up?
tim pool
When do you plan on doing your own show?
Also thanks for talking about chow cheese in previous episode.
I am lactose intolerant and haven't had milk products in a long time.
adam crigler
Oh, I hope you tried it because it is incredible.
I actually suggested this to a few people and people are hitting me up saying it is so good.
I'm almost actually scared now that I'm not going to find it when I go to the store.
So don't buy it around me, but buy it because it's really good.
tim pool
It is, it is.
I made a grilled cheese with it the first time you got it.
adam crigler
You haven't had dairy in a while now, right?
tim pool
No, we have today.
Oh, you did.
Yeah, so we still have cheese.
adam crigler
Oh, right, right.
tim pool
We're gonna get rid of it.
adam crigler
You're still eating the leftovers.
tim pool
I'm trying.
adam crigler
Residual cheese.
tim pool
I'm thinking of something kind of paleo, but I'm like, probably not necessarily.
But it's like, how can I just eat better?
So it's like we had mashed potatoes and salmon today.
adam crigler
I really got to start my own show.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, of course you do, man.
adam crigler
Of course you do.
Thank you.
I like Fry, I like Fry.
I appreciate that.
tim pool
Oh, there it is!
Boom!
Right, I think it's a manslaughter case.
is I'm conservative and don't always agree with you, and that's okay.
I watch all your videos.
Keep up the good work.
You are doing a great service to the American people.
I just complain about my feelings on the internet, man.
It's Fathead, Mr. Poole.
Given the pandemic and the current polarization of government today, do you think that this is an excuse to hit the reset button on our current democracy?
If so, would it be a quick restart or a hard reboot?
I don't, I don't, I don't know.
I don't think so.
I mean, we just need the courts to uphold the Constitution.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But short of them, like them, they're not doing it.
What do we do?
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
I don't know.
I'm not, I'm not smart enough.
adam crigler
Boogaloo.
tim pool
No.
unidentified
That's a good motto.
adam crigler
I like that.
tim pool
It reminds me of the Patriot when Mel Gibson says, you know, mark my words, this war will not be fought in the frontier.
It will be fought in your homes, in your towns, in your schools.
People don't realize how bad it would be.
You do not want that.
Nope.
Scott Poland says, just hopping in, but have you talked about Justin Amash?
He is a viable candidate that will pull in Democrats and reluctant Trumpers.
Worth looking into?
Nah, no thank you.
adam crigler
Oh my gosh, your face, Lydia.
lydia smith
I'm making faces too.
unidentified
No.
adam crigler
You seem absolutely disgusted.
lydia smith
I voted for a third party candidate in 2016 and I will probably never vote for a third party candidate again.
adam crigler
Why?
lydia smith
Because it was just nothing.
And it seems like every third party candidate is kind of like that.
adam crigler
Tossing a pebble in the ocean.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's nonsense.
tim pool
Saint Miles says, Hey Tim, Adam, and Lydia, because this is the most intellectual, entertaining, and calm conversations, I opened my 25-year-old Glen Morin, and I'm now having a glass with my feet up.
adam crigler
Man, that sounds good.
I like the Glens.
They're good.
They're good whiskeys.
Have a sip on me.
Or for me.
tim pool
Russian hockey talent agency says give this to long-haired guy, please Not it.
adam crigler
That would be me.
tim pool
Yeah, I'll take I'll accept it in cash, bro Cody says Tim moved to New Hampshire You can buy chickens and guns the same store live live free or die.
I do like the idea of getting chickens, man All right.
Here we are The Brooklyn Way says Trump curved the press curved the press the way Kim deal curd Jack's, Florida in 1989-1990 straight-up walked off the stage and he was right to do so good for him.
Yeah, he was David says, Tim, talk about the breakdown of the global
food supply and the regional wars that are about to start. We need to know the cost of not exporting
our surplus food, a billion dead in the next year. I hope not.
adam crigler
More the reason why we need to open this economy back up.
tim pool
But the crack is already there.
adam crigler
So it's like... Yeah, it's the hesitation.
So it's like, to catch it up, eventually there's still going to be that gap that we've been closed for so long.
tim pool
When we shut down the economy, we took the rope and we whipped it, and now that wave is traveling all the way down.
So even if we start it back up, the wave is still going to hit.
adam crigler
But the longer we wait, the bigger that space is going to be.
Yep, it's gonna get bad.
tim pool
Furby Slayer says, in case you missed it, in case you missed Rogan and Elon,
Elon confirms any symptom matching COVID is counted even testing negative,
includes death counts, means most deaths, most deaths breathing weakness,
also confirmed money incentive.
That's true.
USA Today confirmed this.
They get more money if they have COVID patients.
adam crigler
They confirmed it, huh?
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Aaron says, hey Tim, have you seen the Unreal Engine 5 demo?
It's one step closer to real world simulation.
Games can now render multiple billions of polygons.
I saw some screenshots and I was like, whoa.
adam crigler
I know.
PS5, Xbox, the new Xbox, all these new systems that are coming out.
And man, they're looking so nice.
Wow.
tim pool
It's gonna be awesome, man.
Tony Hawk, pro skater.
I've already preordered it.
It's gonna be awesome.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Stoked.
Tony's a birthday.
They announced it.
Anyway, it's about time we wrapped up.
We went a half an hour over because we love you all so much.
lydia smith
We love you guys.
adam crigler
There I am right there.
tim pool
There's me right there.
adam crigler
There's Tim.
lydia smith
Point more at him.
There you go.
Perfect.
tim pool
Point more?
unidentified
Boom.
tim pool
Point harder at him.
lydia smith
Point harder.
adam crigler
I'm going to point at that finger to point down at that finger.
tim pool
Hold on, the important thing is Adam will have a thread where you can send story ideas that we use for the story, so make sure you're following him for that.
adam crigler
It's tagged on my page.
tim pool
And then Lidia also has her Sour Patch Lids, L-Y-D-S for those that are listening.
You can follow her because she posts spicy memes on Instagram.
but uh we'll wrap it up there if you haven't hit the like button you could do so because it really does help thanks for for hanging out we do the show monday through fridays at 8 p.m and now we'll probably more consistently have the show up because even if i'm collapsing from exhaustion adam will have some deep dives available so the show will be uh much more consistent and we post clips every day so make sure you subscribe like button notification bell and then share this with all your friends telling them that we are the Thanks for hanging out.
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