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May 14, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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TimcastIRL - Digital "Journalism" Is Collapsing And Its BAD, LET IT BURRRRNNNN
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adam crigler
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tim pool
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lydia smith
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tim pool
How's it going, everybody?
Welcome to the TimCast IRL podcast.
I am here.
I am Tim Poole.
I'm hanging out with some of my friends.
adam crigler
You know, you know me, Adam Krigler.
How's it going?
tim pool
Yeah, you know me.
adam crigler
Thanks for showing up.
unidentified
What up?
lydia smith
And you know me, Lydia, the producer, Sour Patch Lids.
adam crigler
You technically have a beanie on today.
unidentified
Do I?
adam crigler
Yeah.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Hold on.
adam crigler
It's on your shirt.
unidentified
Look.
tim pool
It's right on the shirt.
unidentified
Oh, wait.
adam crigler
So we are truly the beanie gang.
tim pool
Beanie gang.
unidentified
Sweet.
adam crigler
Beanie Bros doesn't really work.
tim pool
If you listen very carefully.
You can hear the birds.
adam crigler
I can hear them.
tim pool
So we opened up the skylight, so if I sneeze 500,000 times, that'll be why.
adam crigler
Allergy sucker.
tim pool
Yep, yep, yep.
Hey man, it's all a part of growing up.
adam crigler
You can't see me, but I'm pointing and laughing at him.
lydia smith
Wait, here.
adam crigler
There you go.
Proof!
lydia smith
See?
adam crigler
I was really pointing at him.
tim pool
You know what I read once?
I read that the reason people get allergies is because we have an immune system for viruses and stuff, but then you have one for parasites.
And because we don't get parasites anymore, it just goes haywire.
So I actually read, I don't know if this is true, maybe it's not, so don't do it.
adam crigler
I heard allergies are just for terrible humans.
tim pool
No, I heard that if you infect yourself with worms for a couple weeks and then drink that like poison that kills them, it cures your allergies.
You should do that.
I read that on the internet, that means it's true.
lydia smith
It is true, yes.
tim pool
So, uh, thanks for hanging out, everybody.
Hit that like button!
adam crigler
and smash that like button.
Yes.
I'm gonna do that right now.
I'm liking it.
tim pool
Do it.
Boom.
adam crigler
Like.
Really, it helps, but subscribe.
I was the 177th like.
lydia smith
Oh, that's a lucky number.
tim pool
That's excellent.
adam crigler
177.
tim pool
So here's what I love about YouTube.
The first thing they ever did is like, you hit the like button, and it's a good thing.
Yeah.
If you subscribe, you're good.
Now they added the notification bell.
Now there's like, I don't know if they still do this, but you hit the notification bell,
and there's like a subcategory of like, do you always, they just keep making it more and more difficult
to actually say like, dude, just let me know when they post stuff.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
But we actually did a segment on this the other day.
YouTube admits they favor authoritative content that nobody likes.
lydia smith
Authoritative.
tim pool
And this is funny because apparently YouTube staff complained.
They were like, hey, nobody's watching this stuff.
And they were like, so what?
Put it up anyway.
So dumb.
But I guess they do it.
Here's why they do it.
And this is relevant.
Trust me.
They do it because it would be smart if I press the record button.
lydia smith
Hey, yeah, let's do that.
tim pool
Now here we go.
Welcome to the show, everybody.
So the reason YouTube props up these authoritative, I'm doing air quotes, sources is a shield because of these media companies that are constantly smearing and going after them.
So now they can be like, oh, but we give you special access.
We're doing everything right.
And then it's a detriment to their own independent creators.
They don't care.
adam crigler
They're just a bunch of circle jerkers.
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
tim pool
There's kids listening.
adam crigler
Hey, I didn't swear.
No, but I didn't swear.
And that's what it seems like.
tim pool
I got an email.
adam crigler
Mainstream media, a bunch of other people are just having a good time together.
tim pool
I got an email.
adam crigler
Being really friendly with each other.
tim pool
You know what I say?
It's like, you ever see the episode of Rick and Morty where all the Jerry's come out of that machine and they're all shaking each other's hands?
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
That's what it is.
Because I remember one time I said... Same thing.
adam crigler
Shaking each other's hands.
tim pool
Now that you've already said Circle Jerk, I actually had someone email me and they were like, I was driving my kid back from school, listening to one of your podcasts, and then they turned to me and said, Dad, what's a circle jerk?
unidentified
It's like, oh no!
tim pool
I don't know if saying that makes this now an explicit podcast.
I think it might.
adam crigler
No!
No way.
It's just a circle, a bunch of jerks in a circle.
tim pool
A circle of jerks.
unidentified
Yeah.
That's what we're talking about.
adam crigler
That's all it is.
tim pool
I don't know what the context you were thinking of was.
adam crigler
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
tim pool
But you've got a dirty mind.
That's not what we're talking about.
adam crigler
That also might be true.
tim pool
Tell your kids this.
When they ask you what it is, say, think of all the people you hate and they're all standing in a big circle all laughing.
adam crigler
At each other, pointing at each other and laughing.
tim pool
I mean, I gotta be honest.
That actually does describe these media companies.
It does, yeah.
unidentified
Kind of, yeah.
adam crigler
You do.
It's a circle of jerks.
See, that's what I was thinking, yes.
tim pool
That's what I was thinking as well.
Thank you, Tim.
Okay, thank you.
Appreciate it.
So, there's big news.
adam crigler
Oh, good.
Big news.
tim pool
And it's bad news for news.
adam crigler
Oh, no.
lydia smith
Bad news news?
adam crigler
Are we news?
tim pool
We're not.
Are we out technically?
adam crigler
Outskirt news?
tim pool
Well, this is entertainment.
adam crigler
Entertainment?
tim pool
This show is entertainment.
adam crigler
Oh, good.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
All right.
tim pool
Bad news for news industry.
They're collapsing.
It is flames, man.
The boat is gone.
adam crigler
I have a feeling it's not the mainstream media, though.
tim pool
No, it is.
adam crigler
Oh, it is?
tim pool
Yeah, it's nuts.
adam crigler
Oh, that must be the good news part of it.
tim pool
This list is nuts.
Pull this list up.
Look at this.
adam crigler
Oh, my goodness.
lydia smith
Oh, my lanta.
tim pool
Oh, it is fire.
adam crigler
Those are all different companies?
Wow.
lydia smith
It was a very long list.
adam crigler
For those who are just listening, we're scrolling through.
unidentified
Still scrolling.
lydia smith
There we go.
adam crigler
Probably, I don't know, a hundred.
unidentified
Two hundred?
adam crigler
More than that.
lydia smith
Holy moly.
adam crigler
Two hundred different news companies.
tim pool
And this is not all of it.
I got more stories.
Check this out.
adam crigler
Wow, look at that.
tim pool
Wall Street Journal says, this is from a few weeks ago, Vice Media document lays out plan for layoffs amid coronavirus pandemic.
Planning document calls for over 300 layoffs, though company says several such proposals are being worked up.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
It is flames all the way down.
adam crigler
How many people work at Vice?
tim pool
I think a thousand.
Wow, that's not entirely sure.
adam crigler
Like 30% of the company.
tim pool
It might be it might be way more than that because they've grown.
It's been a long time since I've been there.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
But yeah, the media has gone up in flames, man.
Yeah, I got a bunch.
So Vice is denying this, by the way.
adam crigler
Oh, really?
tim pool
They're pushing back.
But the Wall Street Journal did include that saying that, you know, they're saying, hey, they're just being worked up.
But we've also got, what is this one?
BuzzFeed and Condé Nast are making more cuts after pay reductions aren't enough.
Now here's the crazy thing.
I did a segment earlier.
BuzzFeed just shut down news operations for two offices.
This might be what they're talking about.
But I think these companies were in trouble a long time ago.
There's the bird.
Now, apparently, according to the conversation, they say nine reasons you should be worried about the closure of BuzzFeed News in Australia.
I'm sorry.
adam crigler
That's a jolly laugh.
lydia smith
That is hilarious.
tim pool
Nine reasons too many.
unidentified
That is nine reasons too many.
tim pool
Quartz is letting people off.
We got the story, digital media clobbered by coronavirus.
adam crigler
It's just clobbered.
I like that.
tim pool
This is a huge list.
adam crigler
It really is.
tim pool
Before we get into gloating over the demise of a lot of these companies, the first thing I'll point out- I'm only gloating at a few of them.
adam crigler
Right.
For the record.
tim pool
That's true.
That's a good point.
We only want to gloat for a few of them.
Check this out.
A lot of these are just local newspapers, and it's kind of bad.
Local newspapers are alright.
They do an alright job, and most of them seem to be local papers, local outlets that are now suffering.
So as much as I want to laugh about NBCUniversal cutting executive pay by 20%, as if I care.
Univision layoffs, furloughs, and pay cuts, as if I care.
Digital media, oh, this is where it gets juicy.
BuzzFeed cut employee pay Cut AM to DM.
It's a morning news show.
Eight people lost their jobs and had furloughs of some staff.
Now, part of me wants to say I'm sorry to these individuals who lost their jobs.
But these outlets are just so awful.
And they put out garbage, fake news.
Look man, we can complain about BuzzFeed being biased.
And that's when they put out biased articles.
Like, if they write something on the culture war, politics, it's really bad.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But BuzzFeed wrote a story about two black men fighting to the death over fried chicken, which never happened.
adam crigler
Oh yeah, that was BS, right?
tim pool
And that was just like, yeah, it was total BS.
And it seems very obvious that they were like, ooh, this will get clicks.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And they claim to be like, they write articles always in favor of these lefty politics and ideas.
And then when it's their chance to write some nonsensical rage bait that mocks, you know, the black community and stereotypes them, oh, they're the first ones to jump on board.
And I reached out to them and I was like, hey, this is not true.
Here's proof.
They were like, meh.
adam crigler
They didn't care.
tim pool
They sent me a link to like... So the witnesses said there was no fight over a chicken sandwich.
It was basically the story was like two guys got into a fight, one guy got stabbed.
adam crigler
Yeah.
And then... It had absolutely nothing to do with the chicken sandwich.
tim pool
Well it did in the sense that... They were both in line.
They were both at Popeyes.
adam crigler
And that's it.
tim pool
And that, there you go.
adam crigler
And like... That's Popeyes though, not the chicken sandwich.
What if they both didn't like chicken in general?
They were like, man, we don't like chicken.
tim pool
They wouldn't be at Popeye's, I guess.
Well, they got fish at Popeye's.
adam crigler
Hey, you never know.
tim pool
But the gist of it was, BuzzFeed said in the headline that it was a fight over a chicken sandwich.
Nobody had a chicken sandwich.
Nobody had ordered one.
A dude cut in line.
The other dude was like, hey, don't cut in line.
And the guy was like, F you.
And he was like, take it outside.
Guy got stabbed.
That was it.
It was a fight over cutting in line.
And the dude's family was pissed because he was like, he's like, ain't nobody died over a chicken sandwich.
This is BS.
The media is lying.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And so I saw what Buzzfeed did and I'm like, dude, that's not cool.
And when I reached out to them, the response I got back was a quote from a cop saying something like, we think that people were at Popeye's because of the chicken sandwich.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And I was like, that says nothing about these two men and their fight.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And that was it.
adam crigler
I honestly, when I first heard this story, I didn't think it was true.
I thought it was a, like a PR stunt from Popeye's trying to sell the chicken sandwich.
No joke.
tim pool
I think you're right.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, I agree.
adam crigler
Like, no one actually died?
Or they spun it?
tim pool
No, no, no.
adam crigler
They were like, we should use this.
unidentified
Yes.
Oh.
Gross.
tim pool
So where did the narrative emerge that these guys were fighting over a chicken sandwich?
Right.
So apparently, like, I think Popeye's put out a statement.
adam crigler
Uh-huh.
tim pool
I could be wrong.
And they were like, we're so sorry, blah, blah, blah, the chickens.
I think they were like, lean into it.
adam crigler
We didn't mean to make the chicken sandwich that good.
It's like, wait a minute, what?
tim pool
What did you just say?
But in all seriousness, actually, could you look this up?
I think they did make a statement about it.
adam crigler
The statement they made?
tim pool
And I think, if I was gonna make a bet, I gotta be very careful because, you know, we live in a litigious country.
I'd be willing to bet that their PR person heard the story and was like, do it, do it, pull the trigger, pull the trigger.
No one should fight over these chicken sandwiches.
Wink.
adam crigler
It's not like they would ever say that, though, in the statement.
tim pool
No, they would say something like that, like, it's terrible that, you know, at the release of our new chicken sandwich, a fight broke out, and something like that, you know what I mean?
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
I can't remember exactly what happened with it, but I'd be willing to bet that's where the narrative came from.
So when I look at, like, BuzzFeed cutting employee pay, they're shutting down their Australian news division and UK, I'm sorry, man, I'm not gonna cry.
adam crigler
And how about Vox?
I know you're not... Oh, look at this!
tim pool
Yeah, where's Vox?
Vox furloughed more than 100 people for three months.
You know what?
adam crigler
That's a good amount of people.
tim pool
I... Seeing all this?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I almost want to cry.
Tears of joy?
Happiness?
you know because of the one way i think slain what's going on with uh... with
that digital media is that it's like you have this gigantic machine funded by
venture capital and i am but one person on youtube
desperately trying to like fight back against all of the lies in the smears
the fake news and it's like a knock on a skyscraper with a ball peen
hammer you just like you got away at it and then while you're
doing it they're building more now it's like ultimately is never get
adam crigler
anything done well you saw shoshank right
he escaped with the you know to come along i think i think i don't know how to knock it
down bobby i was the same kind of thing so
tim pool
being at the starting project i don't want these people to lose their jobs
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Right?
But I do want the whole system to be reformed.
adam crigler
Incredible.
tim pool
And to get back.
There's a really funny viral video going around right now.
Some dude, I can't remember where he was, I don't know, some local journalist was walking around a protest.
Oh, it's Long Island.
Yeah, we were watching this video.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And this guy is being yelled at by Trump supporters.
They're like, you're fake news, you're fake news.
And he's filming it.
And then it's like such the, it's the most pathetic, Like, mission-driven BS news reporting.
He's like, I'll never forget what happened to me this day.
Hounded and harassed.
And I was just trying to tell their story.
lydia smith
Harumph, I say.
unidentified
Harumph!
tim pool
Dude.
adam crigler
Man, that was funny.
They weren't even being mean.
They were just kind of, they were just talking, calling him out.
Yeah.
tim pool
It's funny because I've been at protests where I've been physically attacked and they're throwing explosives and smoke bombs.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And the media defended Antifa.
unidentified
They were like, but they're fighting fascists.
tim pool
It's like, yes, when they beat journalists, they're fighting fascists.
Right.
Great.
Thanks.
adam crigler
Sure.
tim pool
And so now that you're seeing conservatives go, you're fake news.
They're like, oh, oh, oh, no, somebody, somebody insulted me.
What do I do?
lydia smith
Oh, my stars and guys.
adam crigler
Where's my group that support me?
tim pool
There's an amazing, amazing photograph of Jim Acosta of CNN with this look on his face like.
And there's someone flicking him off.
adam crigler
Awesome.
tim pool
He's looking at it like, ugh!
unidentified
How dare you!
adam crigler
Harumph!
Oh no!
tim pool
Harumph!
I work for CNN!
I argue with Donald Trump!
You can't be mean to me!
So, I see this guy, right?
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And he's claiming that, you know, oh, I was attacked and berated and harassed and I was simply trying to tell their story.
And then he adds a line where he's like, these are people who weren't even wearing masks during a pandemic.
And I'm like, there it is!
unidentified
There it is!
lydia smith
Yep!
tim pool
This guy came down and he was like, I'm just here to tell your story.
And then he jumped the chance to be like, oh no, they're attacking me and they won't even wear masks.
Like, dude, I can see what you're doing, man.
You're not there to tell their story.
You were looking for the conflict so you could play the victim.
And you know what?
I know you want to be like Jim Acosta, but you'll never be in the big leagues, bro.
Jim Acosta is like the Michael Jordan of fake news.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Is he?
adam crigler
Yeah, dude.
I'm almost offended that you would use Michael Jordan's name in that sense.
That's a good point.
tim pool
That's not fair.
adam crigler
I grew up in Chicago.
You did too.
How dare you?
tim pool
That's not fair to Michael Jordan.
unidentified
How dare you?
tim pool
But it was a testament to Michael Jordan's greatness.
You know what I mean?
adam crigler
Sure.
Up to your cringe, Jim Acosta.
tim pool
Who's someone infamous for doing something awful but well?
lydia smith
Bill Cosby.
unidentified
Jim Acosta is the Bill Cosby of fake news.
adam crigler
Why would you go there?
I don't know!
tim pool
You're welcome.
unidentified
That's it.
lydia smith
That's my last contribution.
tim pool
So so no, but look, Jim Acosta goes to these press events with Trump.
And then he'll be like, he'll have like this big thing drawn up where he'll start talking.
And then when Trump is like, thank you, he'll keep talking.
Like next, please.
And he'll keep talking.
And you see this with other CNN reporters to where they argue with the president.
adam crigler
Yeah, ridiculous.
tim pool
Like, did you see that one recently where that Chinese, there's a reporter, she's from CBS, but she is Chinese.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
She asked Trump, you know, like, why are you trying to make this a competition?
Trump got offended, like, that she asked, you know, it's a loaded question.
It's like, it's like asking, you know, when did you stop beating your wife?
So it's like, why are you treating us a competition?
It's like, I'm not.
But so Trump was like, why don't you ask China?
And then she goes, and she pulls her mask up and goes, why did you ask me that?
That's like, what?
You're pretending to be angry about this.
lydia smith
He's literally said that before.
tim pool
I know.
adam crigler
It's like you're talking about why I'm making it a competition with China, right?
That's what the question was about?
tim pool
Global competition.
adam crigler
Oh, OK.
tim pool
And so I think Trump was making a point when he said, why don't you ask China?
Because China's lying about their numbers.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So his point was, I'm not.
They're the ones lying about their numbers.
Why don't you go ask them?
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
But because she was Chinese, then Brian Stelter of CNN is like, it is racist.
But anyway, I bring it up because it's a really, really good example of like, Asking a loaded question that there's no real answer to.
unidentified
Yep.
adam crigler
Like, what are you supposed to say to that?
Just to get a reaction.
tim pool
Like, Adam, when did you stop beating your wife?
adam crigler
Well, I started shaving when I was 18.
tim pool
What kind of question is that?
You know what I mean?
And that's the go-to explanation of what a loaded question is.
And so Trump gets mad about it.
And then, shaving?
Are you making a reference to my lack of facial hair for being Asian?
You're racist!
adam crigler
Actually.
tim pool
And I argue with you.
Yeah, it's funny.
People tweet at me, like, Tim can't grow a beard.
I'm like, yeah, I know.
adam crigler
I mean, it's there.
It's 100% there.
tim pool
I have a scraggly beard.
I know, you bigots.
adam crigler
I actually, I did a little grooming today.
I say I don't groom.
Normally I'd get rid of it, but I was thinking, maybe I'll grow a beard.
But it was like getting a little long and annoying.
Right over the lip.
Yeah, I had to get a little, trim a little bit there.
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
So anyway, it's like this guy who goes on a long island at this Trump event or whatever.
It's, it's, it's, it's, he was inspired, you know, by Jim Acosta.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But Jim Acosta, man, he created the sport.
It's like, here's what you do.
You go to the press briefing, you insult the president, and then you argue with him.
And then all of the resistance people start wiggling their arms and they're going, blah, blah, blah, blah.
lydia smith
Like that.
adam crigler
Like goblins.
unidentified
Like the turkeys.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
adam crigler
Turkeys.
tim pool
You ever see that video where the guy's in the car and there's all the turkeys in the pen?
And he goes, blah, blah, blah.
And then all the turkeys yell back, blah, blah, blah.
adam crigler
No, that sounds amazing.
tim pool
I want it.
adam crigler
I have to look that up.
tim pool
He's laughing so hard he's crying.
And then he goes, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And then the turkeys all gobble back.
That's what it is.
So like, Jim Acosta is the dude in the car gobbling, and all of the resistance anti-Trump people are the turkeys gobbling back.
And it's like, hey man, each one of those gobbles, he then goes to an advertiser and says, hey man, I can make 100 turkeys gobble.
How much are you going to pay me?
And they do.
And then he writes a book and then he sells the turkeys books.
But you get the reference, you get the analogy.
So this guy shows up, he tries pulling this off.
And these journalists feign outrage, like, but we're just trying to tell your story!
And then they're lying.
And this is what we get.
So let's take a look at some of these outlets that are getting purged.
We got BuzzFeed, VT Digger, a non-profit digital news site in Vermont.
First three layoffs.
I don't know who they are.
I'm not going to drag them.
Vice cut some pay and stopped 401k matching and promotions.
unidentified
Oof.
adam crigler
What does that mean?
Matching?
So they stopped, they stopped like helping their employees into their 401k basically?
lydia smith
Yeah, they match your contribution.
tim pool
Yeah.
So if you, if you, yeah, if you put in money, they'll, they'll put in equal amounts of a perk.
The outline laid off its staff.
Wait, laid off all of them?
lydia smith
Goodbye outline.
Never heard of it.
unidentified
Is that literally every single?
tim pool
The outline, an attempt to build a bolder kind of news website, appears to have met its end.
adam crigler
Wait, go back up, go back up.
It's not for everyone, it's for you.
lydia smith
Well, that's not a big enough audience.
adam crigler
They're not talking to their employees.
tim pool
Yeah, one audience member isn't enough to sustain the company, I'm sorry.
Unless the one audience member is Elon Musk and he's paying a subscription of $100,000 a month or something.
So what else do we have?
We have Bustle Digital Group laid off two dozen staffers.
Oh, cry me a river.
What is Bustle?
They're a ladies thingy. Oh, that's right. Yeah, that's right. What do we got? Elite Daily, Inverse,
Mike, Nylon, The Outline. Oh, Mike. Oh, The Outline's gone though. Oh no, the Zoe report.
unidentified
Oh my gosh. I have no idea what that is. What will I do without them? I'm pretty sure all of these
tim pool
people, like they're mostly friends with each other. And I know this because I worked for Vice.
I worked for some of these companies and they hang out with each other. Okay.
And they're all probably, like, sitting around complaining and smack-talking.
They're about us, for calling them out like I care.
adam crigler
I'm sure, yeah.
Bring it on.
tim pool
GeoMedia, which includes Jezebel, Deadspin, The Root, and The Onion, laid off 14 employees.
lydia smith
14, oh.
tim pool
Group 9, 7% of its staff.
They're the Dodo, Thrillist, and NowThis.
Ooh, NowThis!
That makes me feel good.
adam crigler
I don't know most of these.
tim pool
NowThis is fake news.
They create viral rage bait for Facebook, or they used to, and it would be super loaded statements.
At VidCon several years ago, the president on stage said they had partnered with anti-Trump activists at the highest level for producing content or something.
I filmed it.
I published it.
I was like, wow, that's a bold statement for the president of a venture capital-backed news outlet to say straight up, we're anti-Trump activists.
They direct our content.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
So, sad to see you go.
The Hill was implementing pay cuts.
Now that's sad.
The Hill is good.
lydia smith
I don't like that, yeah.
tim pool
The Hill is very good.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Yeah, The Hill is very good.
Altus, i24, and Cheddar, I don't care about them.
They're fine.
They talk about, you know, pop culture stuff or whatever.
Vox furloughed more than 100 people for three months.
adam crigler
Aw.
tim pool
Yeah, that I'm okay with.
Protocol had laughs, I don't know them.
The Skim, Insider, Louisville, and Curbed Atlanta.
Not sure who they are.
adam crigler
Well look, Curbed Atlanta said it's a Vox Media newsroom.
tim pool
Oh, let him go.
Get him out.
adam crigler
We'll stop publishing for three months.
And its editor was furloughed.
tim pool
Get him out.
Bye Vox.
And Quartz, they laid off, Quartz laid off 80 people.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, Quartz isn't that bad.
I don't know Quartz.
It's just digital media.
So let's see, magazines.
Ooh, they have an update.
So apparently they keep adding stuff.
Condé Nast?
Wow, I have no problem with that.
adam crigler
That's huge.
tim pool
I don't know what some of these other things are.
Time Out?
I don't care about that.
You know, I'll be honest, man.
A lot of these cuts, they're bummers.
It's sad to see local news outlets taking hits.
Local papers aren't that bad.
We need local journalism because...
When you've got, you know, a town like, you know, I don't know, Podunk or Bumpkinville.
adam crigler
Bumpkinville.
tim pool
Yeah, Bumpkinville.
adam crigler
Sounds like a fun place.
tim pool
The Bumpkinville Gazette, or the Bumpkinville Bugle, writes about the mayor and... Every time you say that.
Bumpkinville.
unidentified
I love it so much.
adam crigler
I don't know why.
lydia smith
I want to move there.
adam crigler
I can't stop giggling.
Bumpkinville.
lydia smith
Bugle, yes.
tim pool
The Bumpkinville Bugle.
Covers issues of, like, the mayor and stuff.
And you're not gonna get that from the New York Times.
The New York Times won't write about, you know, the mayor of a town of a thousand, you know, called Bumpkinville.
But the Bugle will.
So if you live there, it's important you learn about these things.
So when local outlets start taking hits and laying people off, that's when it gets bad.
One of the scariest things that came up in the digital age, you know, ten years ago, was as these local outlets started going away, local corruption started going up.
Because if you've got a city councilman or whatever who's stealing money...
A local journalist would typically be like, I'm investigating this, ha ha, I've uncovered it.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Cops don't, you know, they're not gonna investigate this.
The feds aren't gonna come in.
It's the public access information gathering intelligence.
But now that everyone's drifting towards, you know, like national, international level conversation in politics, nobody's covering local news anymore.
Except for the local outlets do.
That's why it's sad to see them start taking these hits.
lydia smith
Yeah, they're important.
tim pool
But one of the big problems is that One of the reasons they're taking hits is because they're
being displaced by BuzzFeed, by Vox, by Huffington Post. Because these local outlets
need to find a way to become relevant and to make money, but traffic is essentially stolen by
bigger news outlets.
adam crigler
Makes sense.
tim pool
It's like, you know.
adam crigler
Especially if a certain tube is pushing them on everybody.
Yeah, talking about you, tube.
tim pool
You know, I do think about how local affiliates are really, really bad at using social media.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And why isn't a local news outlet making a YouTube channel and generating traffic and stuff like that?
There is a challenge, right?
If you were in a town of a thousand people, you would make money by advertising local services.
But now these people just buy the ads straight on Google and Facebook.
So now Google and Facebook are sucking all that money out of these smaller towns, and then the local papers have no advertising.
Yeah.
adam crigler
they go under. Who gets the paper anymore? Yeah, I mean, old people.
tim pool
Yep, old people. I think it's funny too, because like, there's gonna come a point where people
are gonna be arguing, you know, saying something similar to us, like, you get your news from
the internet, like, and they're gonna be getting it in some other way or something. Maybe,
adam crigler
yeah. I don't know. Straight from their Neuralink. Yeah, their Neuralink. Yeah, they're gonna
tim pool
have a feed constantly just knowing everything.
I mean, maybe in a hundred years.
But I think we do get set in our ways, like every person does.
We get used to the platforms we use.
Young people start using different platforms.
And who knows what news is gonna be like.
Could you imagine, like, TikTok news?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Where it's, like, some 17-year-old girl dancing to, like, Tears for Fears while holding up, like, a paper and it says, like, you know, Trump impeached.
And, like, that's the news in the future.
I don't know, man.
Who knows what it's going to be like.
adam crigler
Now that sounds like she's from Bumpkinville.
tim pool
Yeah, sure does.
No, that sounds like... When you look at a lot of these companies and how they manipulated Facebook to get those links, they didn't care about news that actually mattered.
They care about stories that will get the most shares.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And so that's what drives Facebook right now.
adam crigler
You know, one thing I see here.
Go ahead.
Give me the article.
Which one says NBC Universal is cutting executive pay by 20 percent.
See like that.
Why aren't we seeing more of that all across the board here?
Like cutting executive pay?
They don't they make way too much money.
tim pool
They don't want to cut their pay, dude.
adam crigler
I know.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
But that solves a lot of issues.
tim pool
It could, doesn't it?
I mean, we got we got problems with the lockdown as it is.
And that's the next segment we're going to be talking about.
The lockdown is busted.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And we got we got some data for that.
But, look man, people get a bailout, these big corporations.
Golden parachutes for the executives.
Exactly.
We're safe, everybody.
Everyone's gonna get an emergency paycheck.
But after two weeks, you're in trouble.
Bob, on the other hand, we got a $10 million bonus, buddy, and the parachute is made of pure gold.
And then he falls to his death.
adam crigler
Don't use this, by the way.
lydia smith
Don't use that gold parachute.
adam crigler
It's just to show off.
tim pool
It's just to sell later on.
Don't actually try it.
You'll drop like a rock.
It'll actually make you fall faster.
lydia smith
Yeah, it'll speed things up.
tim pool
Well, it won't, actually.
It's not how gravity works, but, you know.
So, I don't know, man.
A lot of businesses are going under, and while I want to say it's really bad, nah, it is really bad.
adam crigler
Yeah, it seems really bad.
tim pool
No, because even though I don't like these people, it's a major disruption to the economy, but I wonder if there will be an improvement, because I want to equate some of these news outlets to a thing that slowly starts growing and absorbing nutrients and resources from the body until it becomes a weighted detriment.
adam crigler
I got this.
I got this.
Cancer.
tim pool
Oh, I didn't say it.
Adam, wow, that was a guess.
adam crigler
That was a guess.
I was just guessing.
I was just guessing what you were thinking.
Was I right?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
These outlets are siphoning away resources, exploiting the system, producing garbage information that's making people go insane, and it's a detriment on the minds, the psyche, and the culture of our country.
adam crigler
My next guess was tapeworm.
tim pool
So you know what I was thinking, right?
Think about what's going on with the economy.
And I mentioned this earlier in one of my videos.
It's like we were poisoned.
And the poison, the lockdown, is killing large portions of the body, but not totally killing the body itself, right?
Almost like chemo.
lydia smith
Yeah, I was gonna say like radiation.
tim pool
Purging a lot of unnecessary BS.
Layoffs at all these companies.
Only essential functions.
And then maybe one... I know that everything ultimately is bad.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But there could be one benefit that in the end more essential businesses rise up and we get rid of a lot of this non-essential wasted space that was actually causing us problems and hurting us.
unidentified
Hmm.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So that's a maybe.
Yeah, I don't know for sure.
lydia smith
I can see it.
I can see the parallels.
tim pool
Yeah, but how about this?
Let's talk about what's going on with the lockdown.
And I have this tweet from Brett Weinstein.
So for those that aren't familiar with Brett, he is a professor in exile.
Evolutionary trade-offs, telomeres, senescence, and cancer.
The Dark Horse podcast.
Brett is a smart fella.
And he has this tweet.
It is insane that as the evidence for vitamin D protective effect mounts, and though it appears the virus is very rarely transmitted outdoors, we continue to instruct people to stay indoors where COV-2 is easily transmitted and where they can't make vitamin D. And he's linking this tweet to Joe Rogan.
It says, vitamin D may reduce susceptibility to COVID-19 associated lung injury.
adam crigler
Hold on, do you think all those people that were suntanning their bums are like, yeah, that's right.
We are so, we are so protected against COVID.
tim pool
Think about what this, well, let's think about this for a second.
adam crigler
You know what I'm talking about?
lydia smith
I know, unfortunately.
The bum tanning.
adam crigler
Yeah, the bum tanning.
lydia smith
Yeah, oh my goodness.
tim pool
The people bum tanning aren't thinking about anything.
adam crigler
No, you don't think so?
tim pool
They're not thinking about this.
adam crigler
Maybe.
unidentified
They didn't read the article about vitamin D. Maybe they're like, I'm just trying to get my vitamin D in, man.
Sure!
tim pool
But think about what's going on right now.
adam crigler
I'm having fun today.
tim pool
Think about what's going on with the lockdowns.
Economic collapse.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
California's, Los Angeles says we're gonna send it for three months or until we have a cure.
adam crigler
Crazy.
tim pool
The Supreme Court of Wisconsin struck down the extension and almost immediately all the bars popped open and were flooded.
adam crigler
I'm sure.
tim pool
People shoulder-to-shoulder, partying, drinking, like, woo!
Freedom!
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
One of the things that we've talked about, and a lot of the data we've seen, first of all, the mortality rate's a lot lower than we thought.
The infection rate is high relative to other, you know, illnesses, so this is still dangerous, and you gotta pay attention.
Be safe!
That's the easiest way to put it.
We can't sustain this lockdown, and even now, like the Los Angeles Times and other outlets are pointing out, the poor will suffer from this.
So finally they're getting on board.
We're still seeing this weird split where, you know, there's red states and blue states.
But this is the crazy thing.
The data has shown us that you're more likely to get this if you're indoors, staying home.
66% of people who've contracted it during the lockdown were staying at home.
Because going outside is good, sunlight is good, and you're less likely to touch the same things if you're out in the open.
adam crigler
Makes sense.
tim pool
As opposed to being in the house.
And getting all that vitamin D. And getting all that vitamin D. So who is going to be most negatively impacted by this?
lydia smith
Older people, susceptible people, yeah.
adam crigler
City folk, yeah.
tim pool
City folk who are in their cubicle-like box apartments with very little sunlight, generating that vitamin D deficiency, because many of them are probably eating trash they just order, right?
They're not thinking like, well, maybe that's not fair to say, because I'm sure they're eating similarly to it.
adam crigler
No?
tim pool
No, I wonder.
adam crigler
Yeah, I don't know.
I read an article earlier about how basically the really rich can afford staying in and are alright with it, and the really poor are staying in.
So like the middle class are going out and about.
tim pool
But does the really rich include, like, how did they break that down?
Is it saying, like, by income?
adam crigler
I was gonna bring it up, but it was really, really long, and it was riddled with stories of stuff that made no sense to the article, so I was like, nah.
tim pool
If they did a general like income bracket, then New Yorkers have substantially higher income.
So they can't afford, many of them, to stay inside and not have vitamin D and then get sick.
And you've got poor middle Americans go out on the porch.
adam crigler
That's what those two doctors in California were talking about.
They're basically saying if we stay inside, we're losing our natural immune system that we build constantly.
They were talking about the human body has viruses on it all the time, non-stop, always.
We're always fighting off bacteria and infections constantly.
So if we stay inside and we don't get sun, then our immune systems are just going to go away.
So the next time we go out, if we actually do get the COVID, whatever, you're going to get hit.
10 times as hard because you have no immune system anymore.
tim pool
I don't know enough about how immune systems work.
adam crigler
Well, that's what their whole video is about.
They were talking about that.
And then it got taken down.
It kept getting taken down.
And I'm pretty sure it's still being taken down.
tim pool
To make the throwback point, forgive me if I'm not going to complain about BuzzFeed, which is trying to get videos banned.
Not that I'm a fan of Plandemic or any of these other videos, but we need to have a discussion about whether or not we should or shouldn't reopen.
Now, here's where it gets really, really funny.
I wonder if YouTube will ban us for talking about how the lockdown needs to be lifted.
You think they would?
So they've gone after channels who have been like, you know, the lockdown is BS, don't wear masks, things like that.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But Wisconsin just ruled it unconstitutional.
adam crigler
Hold on.
Boku is sitting on that really expensive instrument.
tim pool
Oh, is he?
lydia smith
Kitty break!
adam crigler
Yay!
lydia smith
There's a cat causing troubles.
What's new?
tim pool
What was he sitting on?
lydia smith
Oh, that sounds like something a cat would do.
adam crigler
Looking for ways to destroy it.
That was very expensive.
tim pool
Well, now we're talking about cats, I don't even know what we're talking about.
adam crigler
I'm sorry, I didn't want anything to happen to that.
lydia smith
We were talking about the lockdown.
adam crigler
It's a really important instrument.
tim pool
And vitamins!
lydia smith
Are we gonna get banned for talking about the lockdown?
adam crigler
Oh yeah, sorry.
tim pool
What am I supposed to say right now when Wisconsin says you can't lock down?
Michigan says you have to lock down.
adam crigler
Which is it?
tim pool
Is YouTube going to ban me?
Which one do I get banned for now?
I have no idea.
The World Health Organization praised Sweden that didn't lock down.
But then the U.S.
was like, everybody gotta lock down.
So I don't know what I can or can't say.
I have no idea.
adam crigler
And not all of the U.S.
Some states were like, we're not locking down.
lydia smith
Yeah, some states are opening up again.
adam crigler
And they're fine.
tim pool
This is the funniest thing when it comes to the election.
Do these anti-Trump people think that the Americans will blame Donald Trump for their governor locking their state down?
adam crigler
The Dem states are just trying to like hold it off as long as possible.
So maybe they can just win something sneakily.
tim pool
Do you think people are that stupid though?
lydia smith
That's something Trump said.
tim pool
Maybe.
adam crigler
Honestly, I think so.
tim pool
What did Trump said?
lydia smith
Yeah, so Trump said he thinks that they are trying to keep it the economy shut down until the election.
And I was like, holy cow, can that be right?
And then the more I thought about it, the more I was like, Maybe.
The economy was doing really, really well.
adam crigler
That's what I was alluding to.
tim pool
But that's just blue states that are already going to give their electoral votes to Donald Trump anyway.
So, you know, there's a CNN poll showing that Trump is up in all the battleground states.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Trump's got a secret voter base.
So I don't know if that makes sense because the Democratic states that are enforcing these lockdowns are sabotaging themselves.
Like, we were talking about this before.
adam crigler
It's true.
tim pool
About emotion versus logical politicking.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Where if, like, you had an apartment, and there was one guy who was constantly, you know, you're a bunch of roommates, and he was like, everybody's got to pitch in their fair share to clean up, everyone would groan.
And the one guy would be like, if you make me in charge of the house, everybody gets pizza!
They'd be like, yeah, pizza!
And then the house falls apart because it's easy and, you know, they vote for the easy thing to do.
Well, now you've got a bunch of people that clearly want to go to the bars.
Like Wisconsin, everybody flooded to the bars.
They didn't care.
I wouldn't do that.
adam crigler
I wouldn't either.
tim pool
I wouldn't do that.
But hey, man, people want to.
adam crigler
Bars are too expensive.
I like drinking out of them.
tim pool
Restaurants and stuff and barbershops.
People are like, I don't care.
I'm going out.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's true.
tim pool
These people are not happy with their Democratic governors.
Man, you think about what happened in this pandemic, and I'll tell you what, I wouldn't be surprised if conservatives greatly outnumber Democrats when this is all over.
Everyone buying guns, figuring out what the laws are like.
You see that viral video where the gun shop owner was complaining about first-time gun buyers?
adam crigler
No, was he?
tim pool
He was like, I swear, these first-time gun buyers, you come into my store, you can't get the weapon.
No, you can't pay me more to get it faster.
You got background checks, you got waiting periods.
How about the next time someone tries to take your stuff away, you vote against it?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
He got really angry.
adam crigler
Good for him.
tim pool
Because in L.A.
adam crigler
He should.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
In L.A.
these people are showing up like, oh no, the world is in, you know, we're in an emergency, I better get a weapon.
And it's like, where were you when everyone was saying, like, now you're coming in and shocked that these are the laws you voted for.
adam crigler
Wait, I can't get a gun now?
Yeah, because you voted to make it hard to get a gun.
lydia smith
It's not a call.
tim pool
It's you voted for these people, you know?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, speaking of that though, apparently there was an amendment to, I think it was the Patriot Act, that would have taken away the ability of the government to spy on browsing history.
And it was relatively bipartisan, but it was mostly Democrats who were voting to amend it, to remove this power.
And it was mostly Republicans who voted against it.
It failed by one vote, so the government retains the power to warrantlessly get your browser history.
adam crigler
It's ridiculous.
Yeah, that's messed up.
tim pool
And that's the problem I have when people are like, you gotta vote for the Republicans.
I'm like, why?
So they can empower the federal government's FISA search powers.
They just did some, they just extended FISA powers and it was like an 80 to 16 vote.
Like all these, like bipartisan support for him.
You know what, man?
The Democrats want to come out and complain to us.
Donald Trump is a fascist.
We must stop him.
But let's vote to give him more executive authority.
They're giving him more power?
That's why it's all fake.
It's all fake, man.
adam crigler
Yep.
They all want the power.
tim pool
Right.
They're like, well, when I'm in office, I definitely want to be able to warrantly spy on American citizens.
So I gotta vote for it now.
But anyway, back to the lockdown.
I think these Democratic governors are like, oof, they're ending their, they're destroying their careers.
adam crigler
It feels like it, yeah.
tim pool
Who's going to want to vote for them?
adam crigler
Especially Whitmer.
It's like, what are you doing?
unidentified
Oh, she is the Queen Karen.
adam crigler
She does look like a queen.
lydia smith
Professor Umbridge.
tim pool
Queen Karen.
Professor Umbridge?
She is Queen Karen.
lydia smith
Yeah, she really is.
tim pool
Check this out.
This is crazy.
This is crazy.
So people are getting really mad about this, I guess.
lydia smith
Oh, of course they are.
tim pool
Supervisor Jim Desmond publishes video messages calling for immediate reopening of San Diego County businesses.
Apparently he said something like, rise up.
I don't know if that's a real quote.
That's what people were sharing.
I didn't hear that.
You didn't see him say that?
lydia smith
I was listening to it.
Yeah, I didn't hear that.
tim pool
I didn't listen to the full thing.
It's five minutes long.
lydia smith
Oh, maybe at the end.
tim pool
Well, maybe he did.
Maybe he didn't.
Let's just find out.
No, he said rise to the challenge.
He didn't say rise up.
lydia smith
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Rise to the challenge.
Okay, so people were being hyperbolic.
But he basically points out, he makes some really, really great points.
Without going into everything, here's the guy who's smart.
Go to the small mom and pop shops that are having their businesses destroyed.
And I'll tell you what they're gonna tell you.
Why is it that I sell clothing, but Walmart gets to keep, say, open selling clothing and I can't?
Why are the big box stores and the corporations being benefited from this lockdown?
Why am I being held back?
And these democratic governors who are like, and the media, they're rooting for the billionaires while pretending like they're not.
adam crigler
I don't get it.
tim pool
I don't know, man.
I think there's just, there's no, there's no principle behind what they're saying.
It's just, I'm angry.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
I'll tell you what though, I'm looking forward to going to the movies.
adam crigler
I can't wait.
lydia smith
I wanna go out to eat.
adam crigler
I wanna go bowling.
tim pool
Bowling?
adam crigler
Yeah.
I brought my bowling ball across the country to bowl again.
I even have my bowling shoes.
That's right.
They still fit me from when I was 11.
unidentified
What?
adam crigler
Yeah.
unidentified
Bowling?
Yeah.
adam crigler
I got bowling shoes at 11.
Yeah, but you know what?
When I was younger, I would always say I was size 12.
My feet are size 12, but it's too big.
And then my bowling shoes, I got them a little smaller because I was not a size 12.
My shoes were always way too big for me.
tim pool
I wonder how many people actually want to go out, though.
unidentified
Would you go bowling right now?
adam crigler
Definitely.
If I could?
Yeah, for sure.
The bowling alley is right there.
tim pool
I'm saying jam-packed, tons of people, all breathing and sweaty and touching everything.
adam crigler
I really want to go bowling.
tim pool
I'd go to the movies.
adam crigler
I'd totally go to the movies.
It's the same thing.
Same thing.
Person behind you coughs.
tim pool
Not necessarily.
adam crigler
Sneezes.
Two rows back.
Sneezes.
Boom.
All over you.
lydia smith
You're not handling the same bowling balls.
adam crigler
I've got my own bowling ball.
lydia smith
That's true.
You do.
adam crigler
You're really prepared.
I don't have to put my hands in other people's holes.
unidentified
Oof.
adam crigler
That's right.
I said that.
lydia smith
Phrasing.
adam crigler
Phrasing.
Oh, I'm having such a good time today.
lydia smith
Oh, man.
Adam's causing trouble.
unidentified
Oh man, this is great.
tim pool
It's been a weird experience, man.
I'm about ready for it to be over.
lydia smith
Once in a lifetime, I hope.
tim pool
I'm ready.
I wasn't that impacted by it.
We work from the home studio, so I wasn't that impacted by when they locked things down.
unidentified
I'm a gamer.
I just game.
adam crigler
Video games.
tim pool
We got a skate park.
adam crigler
Podcasts.
unidentified
That's great.
tim pool
We have a skate park.
We've got a fire pit.
adam crigler
We've been skating like crazy.
tim pool
Yeah, we've just been skating the ramp.
I like going out and having powwows at restaurants, sitting down, talking about stuff.
It's true.
adam crigler
I do miss that too.
tim pool
And what I miss too is non-political conversations.
unidentified
Because, you know, there was- Yes, that's all it is nowadays.
adam crigler
Because- COVID and politics.
tim pool
Because when you can't leave, nothing happens.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And so it's just like, I don't know, the one thing that has to happen, the people who are still getting paid and still working are doing stuff.
That's what's crazy about all of this.
The journalists are still getting paid.
The politicians are still getting paid.
And they're the ones mostly being like, lock everything down.
It's like, yeah, okay, how about we stop paying you?
And then we can, you know, then we can have that conversation about who, you know, what are, what we should or shouldn't do.
lydia smith
Yeah, you don't seem very essential.
tim pool
Nah.
I don't know, man.
What are you looking forward to the most when you get your freedom back?
Outside of bowling.
You mentioned bowling.
adam crigler
Yeah, well, we'll see.
Yeah, I don't know.
Probably going and checking out Philadelphia.
I went to high school here.
tim pool
That's funny.
Like, right when you got here, they locked everything down.
adam crigler
Yeah, I got here.
I'm like, man, I haven't been here as an adult.
I get to, like, really experience this place that I loved as a kid.
I had a lot of really good friends, you know, in this area.
I would like to meet them all as adults.
We can, like, go out.
Yeah, it's cool.
I really remember Philadelphia being an awesome city, and I was able to go, like, twice since I got here, and it sucks.
Like, I really want to go explore.
tim pool
Maybe it's time to move to Texas, man.
Leave Philadelphia?
adam crigler
But I want to experience Philadelphia.
tim pool
No, I'm saying because, you know, Philadelphia, PA, I think, extended the lockdown.
adam crigler
I know, yeah, that's what they said.
tim pool
Yeah, so even if, first of all, New Jersey is not going to extend because North Jersey is basically New York Metro.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Pennsylvania, so we're in the thick of it, man.
adam crigler
I know.
tim pool
Joe Rogan mentioned in passing, you know, he might want to go to Texas.
I say that mentioning in passing because the media loves to latch on to anything he says and then light it on fire.
He's like, I might vote for Bernie.
And then they're like, Joe Rogan endorses Bernie Sanders.
adam crigler
Well, Bernie ran it as an ad.
tim pool
I know, man.
That was dirty.
adam crigler
I didn't like that.
Dirty move, man.
tim pool
Could you imagine one day it's an ad with you being like, yeah, I might vote for the guy.
And it's out of context.
Yeah, but he said he might move to Texas.
And so I'm thinking, yeah, he's got a point, man.
I don't know about Texas, though.
lydia smith
They have miniature cows there, Tim.
tim pool
They have miniature cows in Texas?
adam crigler
OK.
tim pool
Done.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
Decision is made.
lydia smith
Sold it.
There you go.
tim pool
We're going to have so many miniature cows.
adam crigler
No.
lydia smith
We were looking for cows all the way across the country.
It was amazing.
tim pool
What do you mean?
lydia smith
They're amazing.
tim pool
Little cows?
Yes.
Running around.
lydia smith
Like up to your hip.
They're so cute.
tim pool
Making little milk.
And, you know.
adam crigler
I'm good.
tim pool
And then you got little cows, man.
lydia smith
They're so cute.
unidentified
and they could rescue cows eat grass oh yeah they do i'm not gonna eat the cows well good
no you have the cows you hang out with them man yeah they're your friends i guess i hear cows like
adam crigler
music they do yeah they do they like jamming yeah you go play music in the field you should like
make like a drum pad system so they can walk and hit drums and be like oh what's what's that
tim pool
there was a viral reddit post yeah man There was a viral reddit post the other day about something called the Kolning or something.
adam crigler
The what?
tim pool
The Kolning.
It's a Swedish song they sing to cows and all the cows come running over to this woman who's singing and they all stand and watch.
adam crigler
I've seen videos of people doing like trumpet, playing trumpet.
tim pool
And the cows are like, they all come to watch and they're like, wow, that is a great sound.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Cows are jamming, bro.
adam crigler
Cows are cool.
tim pool
Maybe it's because we artificially selected them.
adam crigler
They are cool animals.
I hung out with cows before.
lydia smith
They're cool.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Yeah.
My uncle has a farm.
He's got some cows.
tim pool
Maybe, you know, back in the day when we were breeding cows, the people who were breeding them would be jamming out on their lute or whatever.
lydia smith
Yeah, the cowboys used to play.
tim pool
Yeah, and the cows would come on by and they'd be like, I like this one.
Let's make more of them.
adam crigler
The mouth, what is the mouth harp?
lydia smith
Yeah, the harmonica and stuff.
tim pool
We could have, we could have.
Chickens.
Somebody, what was that funny super chat we got the other day?
They were like, Americans harp on about their freedom, but you can't even own chickens.
lydia smith
Okay.
That stung a little bit.
adam crigler
Freedom!
tim pool
The right to own chickens.
adam crigler
It's honestly, it's the closer you are to a big city, the less you can be rural.
tim pool
The less you can do anything.
adam crigler
Basically.
tim pool
That's so annoying.
Yeah, because everyone's crammed together.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And it's like, crazy.
They say, you know, your rights end where my rights begin or whatever.
Like, the general idea is Because everybody is different in what they're willing to accept, there's a lowest common denominator to what is legal.
Yeah, if you're in the middle of nowhere, who's going to complain?
It's like you could light a flaming arrow and fire it straight up and then run.
lydia smith
Sounds like fun!
adam crigler
Sounds smart.
tim pool
Right, I mean it's like a very stupid thing to do, but you got no neighbors.
As long as you don't burn a forest down or something, nobody's going to care.
You do that in a city and you're going to be arrested and charged with terrorism or something ridiculous.
They're going to come for you and they're going to be like, are you nuts?
I know some people who live in the middle of nowhere and they've got a bunch of guns and they go in the back and they have a shooting area set up and they have a range and everything.
adam crigler
My buddy in Texas has a range in the back area.
tim pool
There's a funny viral meme where there's a target on a fence in a suburban area so there's neighbors right next door.
And it shows like it's like a woman with like a rifle and she's pointing at the fence. Yeah firing at the target and
It's like it's clearly not real right the joke is like firing into the neighbor's yard or whatever
And then a bunch of you know like lefty people are getting triggered by it like wow these people are nuts
unidentified
And it's like it's not real. That's the joke You're falling for the rights memes again. Yep, cuz we can
tim pool
meme this is This lockdown stuff has really made me want to accelerate, not necessarily bugging out, but just getting more space to do more stuff.
Adam and I had this five-acre Miami place, and we had a .22 pellet gun and a bunch of CO2 cartridges, and we were just like... You know I still have that gun?
Oh, you do?
adam crigler
I do, yeah.
tim pool
In Arizona?
adam crigler
It's in Arizona, yeah.
tim pool
It's not bad.
What was it, like a Remington or something?
adam crigler
It's pretty good.
It's pretty legit, dude.
Yeah, it's brutal.
That thing would... I mean, you'd probably kill somebody with that.
tim pool
Yeah, totally, totally.
adam crigler
You'd hit them in the eye or a soft spot in the temple or something.
tim pool
I mean, if you're close enough, it'll go right through their head.
adam crigler
Probably, yeah.
tim pool
That thing was brutal.
It was a .22, wasn't it?
adam crigler
Yeah, it's crazy.
tim pool
But it was air, so I think it was like 17 feet... What were the feet per second?
It was intense, right?
adam crigler
No idea, no idea.
tim pool
But we would put little CO2 cans and then, you know, put it down and we'd, like, ping!
unidentified
And then it would go, you know, We'd also blow up lithium batteries.
That was fun.
Oh, man.
lydia smith
Troublemakers.
adam crigler
We had a lot of fun in Miami.
tim pool
Yeah, but that's when you have space.
You could do whatever you want.
adam crigler
True.
That's true.
So no one cared.
tim pool
I couldn't imagine being one of these city folk, you know, trapped in New York City.
Mm hmm.
It's like people are gonna turn into the Joker, man.
adam crigler
Probably.
tim pool
They're like, I've seen some weird videos, like people are doing one.
Someone had like a studio apartment and they made a stop motion on their floor, like mounted the camera and then because like, What else are you gonna do? You're basically in prison, you
know?
Well, I think that's why in New York they've all been going out disregarding all the
orders. And so then who really gets impacted by it? Poor people, I guess. Not the rich New Yorkers.
They can afford to deal with it. Nobody will mess with them.
They pay, you know.
That tends to be how it goes.
But I mean, for us here, I haven't really noticed anything.
I've gone out, there's been no issues.
I mean, they're selling masks everywhere.
adam crigler
Oh, are they?
tim pool
Yeah, it's a law, I guess, in Jersey that you have to wear a mask.
Period.
If you go out, you have to be wearing a mask.
adam crigler
Well...
I mean, it's not that hard to wear a mask.
lydia smith
It's not that bad.
adam crigler
What if this is like... You should just open it up and everyone just wear a mask.
Wash your hands, keep it clean.
tim pool
How many people do you think... I don't know how to ask this question, but I imagine there's a lot of people who are gonna get really ripped and a lot of people who are gonna get really out of shape.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Depending on like the sport you do.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
Like if I was in New York, like we wouldn't be skateboarding.
So we wouldn't be doing any exercise.
But we're out here, we got a backyard, we got a mini ramp and a flat, so we're skating all the time.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
Getting exercise.
There's probably a lot of people that are probably losing it because they can't play basketball or they can't play football and they're trapped in a cubicle.
adam crigler
Yeah, man.
We feel bad for those people.
tim pool
But I imagine a lot of them are probably doing exercise and stuff inside.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Just doing whatever.
There was a funny video where it's like a bunch of people were protesting for having, you know, to get gyms to reopen.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So they started doing push-ups and squats on the ground.
lydia smith
Perfect.
tim pool
And then everybody was like... Wait.
adam crigler
Why don't you just do that?
lydia smith
This is how it works.
unidentified
You're literally working out.
tim pool
We have another segment that we're going to jump over to.
adam crigler
Let's do Super Chats first.
tim pool
You don't want to do the last segment?
adam crigler
No, I don't want to get lost.
tim pool
We're going to do Super Chats!
Super Chats!
Make sure y'all, if you want to get into Super Chats, ask questions before we talk about the Anti-Civil Liberties Union.
unidentified
What up?
tim pool
They no longer support civil liberties, so we're going to talk about... We can make fun of them.
Great.
It's an issue of, not necessarily men's rights, it's civil rights, it's the right of the, you know, for due process, but the ACLU is now opposing it.
How do you think the whole Obamagate situation is going to play out?
your questions. Just us, thanks to Super Chat, says Beanie Gang. That's right. Yes. Yeah.
George Wood says, Yo Tim, love the show. Done it a few times in the last two weeks. How
do you think the whole Obamagate situation is going to play out? Arrests? My prediction
right now, low level arrests. FBI agents, nothing.
not high-ranking officials, and I think they're gonna slowly release this information
and make some moves as we get closer to the election for two reasons.
If Donald Trump doesn't get reelected, they lose their chance.
More importantly, these actions help Donald Trump get reelected.
But Joe Biden, man, he's dirty.
unidentified
That guy's more of a- People are saying the audio is bad.
adam crigler
The audio went out.
lydia smith
Audio went out, what?
adam crigler
Says your mic is weird.
I hear you fine.
tim pool
I think I fixed it.
Did I fix it?
Something weird just happened.
lydia smith
Give it a second.
adam crigler
I don't know.
unidentified
Everyone, uh, I mean, we don't know if the mic is dead.
lydia smith
Tim's mic died.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
It died.
lydia smith
Says it died.
Nope.
tim pool
I think it's working now.
lydia smith
Okay.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
I think, I think we're good.
I think we're good.
Are we good?
We're good?
unidentified
We got it.
tim pool
You got to wait 30 seconds because of the delay.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
Someone's saying an echo audio still.
tim pool
Yeah.
There was the mute button popped off.
That's what happened.
So we have a bunch of different cameras and each one has its own independent.
adam crigler
Appreciate you guys.
I'm watching.
tim pool
Yep.
adam crigler
I got you.
tim pool
All right, here we go.
Let's see.
George Wood says, yo, Tim, love the show.
Done it a few times in the last two weeks.
Oh, I read that.
I literally, okay.
Dan Bordeaux says, got some money, so I figured I'd send all y'all a super chat because I sent Lydia that Thomas Paine quote on talking with illogical people to give you Tim.
lydia smith
Yes, that was super cool.
tim pool
Yeah, sweet.
lydia smith
I gotta find it.
We gotta read it.
tim pool
Oh, Jesus is here.
adam crigler
Wait, what?
tim pool
Yes, let me, you know.
adam crigler
The real, the real Jesus?
tim pool
Not wearing my formal beanie, I feel underdressed.
Oh, what the heck?
adam crigler
I really wanna see this formal beanie.
tim pool
No, that's not fair.
I think it's Jesus.
Can you imagine how offended SJWs would be if they were subjected to the comments that went on in the game lobbies of Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2?
They would not survive.
No, they wouldn't!
I remember the first time I ever played Call of Duty, I was at my friend's house.
And he was playing some kind of online multiplayer.
And he was like, here, play.
And I'm like, I don't know how to play.
This doesn't sound like FPS.
He's like, just play.
He was like, I go to the bathroom.
And so he gives me the headset.
And then I hear people smack talking or whatever.
And then he was like, here's how you do melee.
Here's the weapons.
And I started actually doing really, really well.
And then he came back and started laughing.
And then he took the headset and started talking mad smack to everybody, making fun of them for being losers.
He's like, my friend's a dumbass who's never played this game before.
You guys are... He's swearing a lot more than that.
And it was funny and I'm like, that was borderline.
I was like, is this, is this, is this, you know, like, is this the cultural colloquial conversation?
Is this?
unidentified
Indeed.
tim pool
Yes.
He was like, I'm being friendly.
You know, he's like spitting and swearing.
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
That's funny.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Christian says, I used to have terrible allergies that would cause me to nosebleed terribly.
Went to live in Ireland for a couple months and boom, gone.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tim pool
No allergies.
adam crigler
Forever?
Gone?
tim pool
Gone.
adam crigler
Cool.
Go to Ireland, Tim.
unidentified
There you go.
tim pool
That's the cure.
I've been to Ireland.
adam crigler
Bring back some good whiskey.
lydia smith
I've been to Ireland.
adam crigler
I like Scottish whiskey.
tim pool
Didn't cure my allergies.
unidentified
No?
No.
Shame.
adam crigler
Where are we at?
tim pool
Where are we at?
adam crigler
It's because you didn't bring me the whiskey.
tim pool
That's true.
Big LC says, welcome back to the First Church of Soy Jesus.
I'm Reverend Tim.
I have donned the holy beanie, and the sermon is starting.
Sermon's been going on now for a while.
adam crigler
I love this.
I love it, though.
I love this.
tim pool
TheGreyGamer says, love your show.
Your dearest consumer of episodic news content, the PPPooPooMan.
Thank you.
adam crigler
OK.
tim pool
Jeremy, thanks for the super chat.
Jessica Cora says, Wisconsin executive order struck down.
Restaurants and bars instantly passed.
Yes!
adam crigler
I'm not surprised.
tim pool
I kind of want to go to a restaurant.
lydia smith
I really want to go to a restaurant.
adam crigler
I do too.
tim pool
I would go to Uno's.
adam crigler
They have vegan pizza.
tim pool
I kind of want to order Uno's now.
adam crigler
You should do that.
I would totally slam down some vegan pizza.
tim pool
Yeah, that's good.
They've got good pizza.
Sassy Pants says, eat honey made from bees in your area that will help with allergies.
I've heard that, but I don't think we have honey made from the bees.
I guess I gotta find a farmer's market or something.
adam crigler
I'm sure there's no farmer's market right now.
tim pool
David Palmer says, we know the story behind how Adam and Tim met.
What's up with Lydia's story?
Um, she was a meme smith on the internet and I talked to her online as she produced memes.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And then I said, one day I was like, you know, your knowledge of memes is quite impressive.
I could use someone with your, your memeing ability.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And asked her if she wanted to come out.
And in all seriousness, it has to do with Lydia's understanding of the news atmosphere.
lydia smith
Yeah, I like to read the news.
It made me kind of unpopular at the hospital, because all I ever wanted to talk about was the news, and everyone was like, please stop!
Please stop!
So I would just rant it to him and it worked great.
tim pool
Yeah.
Good friends.
Because we're playing on doing this show and I was like, we really need someone
who can help story produce.
And there you go.
The rest is history.
unidentified
Boom.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
IB Rippenham says, Facebook does know everything.
Last week, I farted in my living room.
Five minutes later, there were ads for whoopee cushions on my wall.
unidentified
No, no, no.
adam crigler
Gas X. Yeah.
tim pool
They're trying to do away with... Or beano?
lydia smith
Poopery.
tim pool
What?
adam crigler
Beano?
tim pool
What's that?
Is that one?
lydia smith
Yeah, you eat it before.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's like a pill that you eat so you don't fart.
tim pool
Beano?
Yes.
All right.
Where are we at?
Julian says, what is the best music to skate to?
And have you guys gone surfing as well?
Also, I love when Tim says, be clowns.
Yes, that's the best word.
I try and say it in a funny way.
Be clown.
adam crigler
I've surfed, it's fun.
tim pool
I love that word, dude.
adam crigler
But music, you hit up some good music.
lydia smith
Oh yeah, we got the good skeet music.
tim pool
Well, so, I use Pandora's thumbprint radio.
adam crigler
Punk punk music's good.
tim pool
Alternative indie.
adam crigler
It's good punk.
tim pool
Muse is good.
And there's... Muse is really good, yes.
In that style, because... Muse.
But it really depends, man.
I know people skate some weird stuff.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
Hip-hop is pretty good.
adam crigler
Hip-hop is good too, that's true.
tim pool
It's a good beat.
It's a good beat where you get a consistent, like, correct, like a good BPM, like... Old school hip-hop.
Yeah, old school hip-hop is good.
adam crigler
Who's your favorite hip-hop artist?
lydia smith
Mine?
adam crigler
Both of you.
I don't know.
Let's talk about it.
I love hip-hop.
lydia smith
I love hip-hop and rap.
I love rap.
I love logic.
adam crigler
You're from Chicago.
You know Atmosphere?
tim pool
Nope.
Man, they're good.
lydia smith
Oh, come on, Tim.
tim pool
No, I grew up listening to punk.
adam crigler
There's some of my favorites.
tim pool
Punk, indie, you know, and whatever.
adam crigler
Okay, cool.
tim pool
So, the Tony Hawk Pro Skater soundtrack.
adam crigler
That's good skating music.
tim pool
It's coming out.
It's gonna be good.
adam crigler
It's good skating music.
tim pool
They were well, well-picked songs.
Yeah.
adam crigler
Agreed.
tim pool
Be Clowns.
Architect of Fate says, Tim, when can we get a stream from the House Coral Lydia and Sue Hulk doing a collaboration?
lydia smith
Oh, that'd be so much fun!
tim pool
Baking?
She's in Scotland, though.
lydia smith
Yeah, it's okay.
We'll bake on different time zones.
tim pool
All right.
LambdaCore says, Burn, baby, burn.
Disco Inferno.
More like Media Inferno.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
David says, Adam is Soy Jesus, Lydia is Sour Patch Lydia.
What food is Tim associated with?
The people deserve to know.
unidentified
I don't know.
adam crigler
What food?
Barbecue sauce.
tim pool
Oh, barbecue sauce mixed with mayonnaise.
lydia smith
Yes.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
I don't use it that much though.
I use it on like, when I make chicken.
That's just like, you know.
It's the same thing.
adam crigler
You use it a lot.
tim pool
Yeah, but a lot is relative.
adam crigler
Okay.
When I'm eating... Consistently, then.
Yes.
lydia smith
Consistently.
tim pool
When I'm eating something that can be sauced.
lydia smith
Indeed.
tim pool
It's basically Chick-fil-A sauce.
lydia smith
Yeah, it's great.
tim pool
If you've ever had Chick-fil-A sauce, that's what it tastes like.
lydia smith
So good.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure that's what Chick-fil-A sauce is.
lydia smith
I think so.
tim pool
It probably has sugar to it, though.
lydia smith
Yeah, sure.
tim pool
Where we at?
Matthew Hammond says, learn to code.
Oh, yeah.
That's a good point.
adam crigler
There you go.
tim pool
Now we're gonna get banned.
Yeah, we'll see.
A bunch of people have gotten banned recently, so I think it's only a matter of time.
For real.
lydia smith
Earlier, though, it was just YouTube being down.
tim pool
Oh yeah, for sure.
adam crigler
The entire chat is saying Milk Toast.
lydia smith
Milk Toast?
unidentified
Is that your favorite food?
adam crigler
I mean... Milk Steak.
The question was, what are you associated with?
tim pool
Milk Toast.
Do you know where Milk Toast comes from?
adam crigler
The fence sitting?
tim pool
No, it literally comes from a comic about a guy whose name was Milk Toast.
And his name was Milk Toast in a reference to a very bland breakfast.
He had a very weak stomach.
It sounds gross.
I remember seeing a comment from somebody who called me a milquetoast fence-sitter and I thought it was hilarious.
adam crigler
It is pretty funny.
tim pool
It's not accurate, it's just funny.
It's like a self-dig.
Because milquetoast reference someone who's weak-willed.
I'm certainly very adamant and yelling and complaining with the media all the time.
adam crigler
You definitely have a stance.
tim pool
On issues of freedom in the media.
But when it comes to, like, economics, healthcare and stuff, you know, you're not going to hear me... Like, even when I talk about the Obamagate stuff, I'm not like, Obama!
Subpoena!
unidentified
Rawr!
tim pool
And so that's why they say milquetoast, because I'm not like... That was very Alex Jones.
adam crigler
You go very Alex Jones in those moments.
tim pool
Yeah?
Alex Jones?
adam crigler
Well, not that you are, but the way you act.
Rawr!
unidentified
Rawr!
Bombastic.
tim pool
Don't do that.
unidentified
Don't do that.
tim pool
I won't.
Where are we at?
Michael Connor says, saw two of your vids a guy put on YouTube two to three years ago.
Soy Jesus and the Beanie need to hurry up and make some of us watch already.
Also, Trump 2020.
Yep, skate videos.
adam crigler
Definitely skate videos.
tim pool
Yeah, we could.
adam crigler
Oh, we will.
We definitely will.
tim pool
Yeah, but a million jobs lost.
Healthcare jobs.
Oh man, yeah.
even though COVID deaths lead to quick-fed cash.
Perhaps those chief exec types aren't being honest.
Looking at you, Cherry Hills.
Yeah, but a million jobs lost, healthcare jobs.
lydia smith
Oh man, yeah.
tim pool
Lance says, who will be left to keep the government in check?
The Watchmen.
Julian Borges says, thoughts on The Last of Us 2 leak SJW controversy.
I don't know anything about it.
I watched some of the videos.
adam crigler
Honestly, I don't even know if I care.
tim pool
I don't.
adam crigler
I don't care.
Someone leaked it.
Okay.
tim pool
But what did they leak?
The whole game?
adam crigler
I don't know what they leaked.
Honestly, I don't care that much.
tim pool
I know that they're DMCA, doing DMCA takedowns on people.
It's like creepy.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, and it's not legal either.
But people are saying something about like, there's a social justice controversy around the game and I'm like, You know what, man?
Look, if you liked The Last of Us and you played it, that's awesome.
adam crigler
Yeah, I never even played the first one, so I was like, whatever.
tim pool
It's really, really simple how you solve this problem.
If you don't like The Last of Us 2 because there's social justice stuff in it, don't buy it.
Do you remember what happened with Battlefield V?
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
It was chaos.
adam crigler
Is that where they, like, you pay to get the best stuff?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
They released a trailer where, like, the lead character on the cover and, like, in the trailer was a woman with a robotic arm.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And, like, purple hair.
adam crigler
Alright.
tim pool
In World War I. And people were like, I don't want to play Fortnite.
I want to play World War I. Yeah, yeah.
And so then the guy was like, if you don't like it, don't buy it.
And then nobody bought it.
And he was like, wait, I'm sorry, I defeated him!
unidentified
I defeated him!
lydia smith
Why isn't anyone buying it?
tim pool
And then they started changing it to, like, make it more... Talk about stupid, man.
adam crigler
Like, realistic?
tim pool
I love it.
You know what I love?
adam crigler
I can't stand those colorful games.
They bug me.
tim pool
So one of the things that, uh... Never play Fortnite.
I was, I was, I was, uh, recently in a Twitter thread between ShoeOnHead and StyxHexanHammer, YouTuber commentators, if you don't know.
And they were talking about left and right debate, and I brought up how the left It really feels like if someone becomes left-wing, it's because they were attacked and threatened.
And if someone becomes right-wing, it was because they were celebrated and cheered for.
And so, you know, Shu agreed.
She was like, if you go from left to right, you're greeted with a parade.
If you go from right to left, you're, like, picked apart and they go after you.
So, when it comes to games like Battlefield, they're so scared of this small sect of lunatics that they compromise all of their values and make the world's worst game, and then nobody buys it.
And then what do you do?
It's like, you bend the knee to these lunatics.
Don't be surprised if nobody wants to buy your garbage.
And then nobody buys it.
That's what I say about The Last of Us 2.
Listen, man.
If you don't like it, the best thing you can do, don't buy it.
adam crigler
Boom.
tim pool
That's it?
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
I agree.
And then, you know what?
They don't learn their lesson often.
I think they will.
Like, when you look at Birds of Prey.
Like, why did this movie bomb so bad?
adam crigler
I don't want to look at it anymore.
tim pool
I don't want to look at it.
What a terrible movie.
adam crigler
It was bad.
tim pool
It's creepy how... Do you ever hear of Gamergate?
No.
I can't give you the full history of it, but one of the general ideas is that You have these video game companies that advertise on video game news websites.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So the news websites are basically colluding with the advertisers.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Like if I'm going to write a review for The Last of Us, and The Last of Us is like, we're going to buy a big ad spot, we want to promote the game.
I can't bad mouth the game.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So they don't.
And then people start complaining like, dude, that review was BS, that game was terrible.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And so the media companies are just basically... Catering to them.
It's an advertisement, it's not real media.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Same thing with news.
You see these, it's access journalism.
adam crigler
It's true.
tim pool
They'll, like, Birds of Prey comes out and then everyone's like, it's the best movie ever!
It's like, just be honest, man.
adam crigler
As they just got paid to say that, basically.
tim pool
Well, they're scared of losing access.
adam crigler
That's what it felt like, anyway.
All the reviews were, like, raving, and I'm like, who is reviewing this movie?
Did they even watch it, or did they just watch, like, the trailer and got a check from somebody?
tim pool
They're scared of losing access.
So they get early releases and previews and stuff like that.
I remember there was one tech reporter who was tweeting about how he was given a, like an iPhone, like a new iPhone before it came out.
And how tech journalism is the lowest form of journalism because they literally give you free stuff.
And if you write bad things about it, they stop giving you free stuff.
So they all write good things about the products they get.
Yep.
Because they're like, eh, it's a free phone, man.
adam crigler
Yeah, I got early access.
tim pool
Hey, this phone might be bad, but I'm going to get another free phone next year.
adam crigler
If I tell you it's good.
tim pool
And to be honest, like when you get the new Apple or the new Android, they're not that,
they're not bad.
It's not going to be bad.
It's going to be the new high-end phone.
You know, you're going to be like, sweet, I got one before everyone else.
adam crigler
And yet I'm still using like a four-year-old phone that still works fine.
tim pool
Yeah, but what if, you know, they come to you and they're like, we'd like to give you, you know, three months in advance the newest phone.
Yeah, they go to their friends and they're like, look what I got, the new iPhone QR 49 or something.
adam crigler
QR 49.
tim pool
And they're like, wow, how did you get that?
It's like, well, I'm a journalist and I'm reviewing it.
And they write a puff piece. It's the best phone ever and then they'll maybe put in some like fake shade
unidentified
Like I was concerned about the bevel on the camera, but ultimately it pan it played out. Well, it panned out
tim pool
Well, and then you look at movies like my favorite is the death wish. Okay with Bruce Willis
Yeah, I think I've seen it say I think something like the honest assessment was like an old samurai revenge, you know
modernized His wife gets killed, he goes and buys guns.
adam crigler
Oh yeah, that one, okay.
tim pool
Then the killers come back.
And it's, like, universally panned.
And, uh, cover your kids' ears now, because I'm going to tell you what one reviewer... A reviewer called it a gun nut masturbation film.
adam crigler
And I'm like... Oh wait, I got headphones on.
tim pool
It wasn't even.
It was an entertaining popcorn flick, but they destroyed it in the reviews.
Audience loved it.
Audience scores like 90%.
It's like, hey, that was fun.
That was cool.
Like Bruce Willis, you know, he's like defending his kid, his daughter.
She's like older now.
And then you look at Birds of Prey and it's like the best movie ever.
adam crigler
Sorry, hearing that in the same sentence just makes me laugh.
tim pool
To the critics.
adam crigler
Couldn't hold it back.
tim pool
They give Dave Chappelle... I think this is really funny too, because regular people are starting to notice this.
Dave Chappelle did a comedy special, and it gets panned by critics, and then Amy Schumer, it's like, everyone loved, and it's like, nah.
You just, look man, if you came out and said this game is good, this game is bad, people believe you, but the regular average American who's not politically initiated just saw you give Amy Schumer a thumbs up and started laughing, and they're like, now I know you're lying.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, nah, sorry man, Dave Chappelle is a master of his craft.
adam crigler
He really is.
He's a smart dude.
tim pool
Yeah, he's funny, he's funny.
All right, let's read some more.
Where are we at?
Charmsuperior says, all Americans, please take some advice from a UK citizen.
Vote Republican.
Don't fall like us and cherish the freedom you have.
Wait, the UK voted overwhelmingly conservative in December.
Chisholm.
Adam, did you get a chance to check out anything I sent your way?
Sent you something on Plandemic and how triage actually works today.
More to come.
adam crigler
I did see that email.
And when I opened it, I saw a bunch of links and I was doing other things.
So I didn't have the time to dig into the links, but I definitely I'll check those out.
Thanks.
tim pool
Hunter says, missed the chat last night.
Smash Bros is win.
Adam, if you like old school platformers, check out Hollow Knight.
Should do a playthrough.
adam crigler
You're not the first to tell me that actually.
Hollow Knight.
It does look like a fun game.
unidentified
Thank you.
Yes.
tim pool
Boom.
Bike Master says, long time no chat.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Work has been crazy, keep on trucking, y'all.
Will do.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Yiz the eunuch.
It's not that I want left wing news to fail.
I want fake news to fail of all kinds.
I don't mind if outlets have bias as long as they do real journalism.
100% right there.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
It's not that I want left wing media to fail.
It's that I want them not to exist anymore.
No, I'm kidding.
adam crigler
Oh, you took it a little further.
tim pool
That was the joke.
It's actually a Family Guy joke.
When Stewie's like, it's not that I want to kill Lois.
It's that I don't want her to be alive anymore.
lydia smith
Like, oh, okay.
tim pool
Family Guy's great.
adam crigler
Yeah, it is.
tim pool
Jesse, you know, referencing that, uh, the Family Guy episode the other day, where they walk just across the border and then, and then Quagmire says, for those that didn't hear it, they all walk across the border and don't realize.
And then Consuela, they're like, we need to get to America.
And Consuela goes, you're in America.
And they're like, what?
And she's like, yeah, you're in Texas.
And then Quagmire is like, wait a minute.
You mean we just walked across the border and we didn't even realize?
Like, that's a problem, right?
Politics aside, we can all recognize it's a problem.
And they look at him and then he just cuts.
And I'm like.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Is Seth MacFarlane secretly, like, what was that joke?
Because that makes me laugh.
I'm sure it makes Trump supporters laugh.
adam crigler
I'm sure, yeah.
tim pool
It doesn't make resistance people laugh.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
I don't know.
Who are they targeting?
tim pool
But they've also, like, family guys ragged on SJWs a lot.
They have like a whole episode, I think.
Several episodes.
adam crigler
It wouldn't surprise me, yeah.
tim pool
The Simpsons did it, where Mr. Burns goes to a college and then sees all of the college students and they're all SJWs.
And Mr. Burns is like, why am I paying for this?
I gave you all this money.
And then it turns out they're all robots and their heads explode or something.
Something ridiculous.
Family Guy did a whole episode where Brian tweets something offensive and the SJWs, you know, the mob shows up to his house and they're like throwing stuff at him.
So Seth gets it.
But he tweets stuff that's very much like generic resistance tweets.
adam crigler
I know, I see it.
It's a little cringy sometimes.
tim pool
Maybe he just likes being rich and he's like, eh, I'm not going to get involved.
But then he puts it out through Family Guy.
That Quagmire thing was hilarious.
adam crigler
As long as he doesn't mess up Star Trek when he gets a hold of it.
tim pool
I hope he does.
adam crigler
Get a hold of it.
unidentified
No, he won't.
adam crigler
Orville was amazing.
I know I know he won't know he won't fix it up orville was amazing. Yes, I mean it was a great is amazing
Oh, yeah, I guess why I've seen it. I've watched them all so now it's yeah
tim pool
I want more episodes.
adam crigler
I know, me too.
tim pool
Where we at?
Jesse on fire says, did a vid about Cuomo getting caught with fake corona and comments I'm still getting are from dimwits that haven't googled to confirm it's true.
Bizarre.
That's why I always do my videos- I doubt he had it.
I didn't used to do my videos where it was always my face in the corner with the source, until people started taking the clips out of context and calling me a liar, and I was like, I'll just put this article on the screen full, and I'll read from it.
Clip that.
They still try.
adam crigler
Yeah, they still try, but it's obvious now.
tim pool
Media Matters did it.
They were like, Tim Poole falsely claimed the Star Tribune said that Ilhan Omar may have married her brother, and it's my face like this, and then next to it it says, Ilhan Omar may have married her brother.
unidentified
You can't do it!
adam crigler
It was their article.
tim pool
Yeah, and so someone tried putting it on Wikipedia, and the editors were like, but the claim they make is next to an image of Tim Poole reading the paper that says, Helen Homer may have married her brother.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, he's not falsely asserting it, he's literally reading the newspaper.
They try, man.
That's why I do it that way now.
So that's why, you know, if you end up making a video about Cuomo, and you have the source on the screen, what are they going to say?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Unless they're, you know, they try.
adam crigler
Do you think he ever had it?
I don't think he ever had it.
tim pool
You don't think Chris Cuomo had it?
adam crigler
Nope.
unidentified
I don't think so.
tim pool
Did I say Andrew Cuomo or Chris Cuomo?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I think so.
adam crigler
I don't think so.
tim pool
I do.
adam crigler
Cool.
tim pool
And I think they exploited it.
adam crigler
No, that was my question.
You answered.
That's all I needed.
lydia smith
That's all we needed.
adam crigler
Moving on.
tim pool
Ooh, spicy!
Adam says maybe these journalists should learn to code Student of history says roses are red violets are blue then
unidentified
Oh no.
tim pool
we said the MSM what I'm not gonna read this I don't know what that means
Nope, sorry could be bad looks like Japanese maybe Biker Bob says Tim have you heard that Canada is going to
be used as a test subject for the Chinese woof Luke your Our Prime Minister admires the Chinese government.
Well, it's because they're testing a vaccine, I believe.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I'll wait a little bit.
I'm totally down for getting, you know, vaccines or whatever.
Like I mentioned, when you travel, you got to get a ton of shots like Hep A, typhoid, things like that.
But if we're rushing this through, I don't trust major corporations to get it right on the first try.
adam crigler
Agreed.
tim pool
I don't want to be a guinea pig.
That's fair.
Two Rivers Lad says, in your main segment you mentioned unmasking Flynn.
What does that mean?
I thought he was always a public figure.
Is this kind of like a Voldemort thing?
This was one of the, today was a long day.
Took a while to get done.
Because I was trying, you know, doing this video talking about the Obamagate and the unmasking of Flynn is very, very difficult because most people don't know what unmasking means.
So I'll give you a quick breakdown for, you know, to answer your question.
When the U.S.
is spying on foreign adversaries or foreign individuals, whatever, just foreign people, They're not allowed to publish the names of Americans because Americans have a Fourth Amendment right.
Oh, I'm here.
Americans have a Fourth Amendment right.
So when the FISA courts, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, the courts, say, like, we're gonna, you know, spy on this Kislyak guy, this Russian, Then they get a document that says Kislyak said this, U.S.
person said this.
Unmasking is when they request U.S.
person's name be published for them, not necessarily to the public.
Not to the public.
So when Joe Biden made an unmasking request, what was basically happening was he was seeking to find out the name of a private American citizen that would help him understand the context of this phone call.
A lot of conservatives are upset because the unmasking was seen as abuse.
The conversation between the Russian ambassador and Michael Flynn was not in any way suspect.
An incoming national security advisor reaching out to a foreign diplomat and saying, hey, we're gonna have conversations, let's keep everything chill, is completely normal.
And even the Washington Post, who published his name, said this is what he should have been doing.
So why then did so many people in the Obama administration seek to unmask the name of this individual communicating legally and correctly With the Russian ambassador.
That's what people are asking.
More importantly, who leaked it to the press?
And why did Obama have a meeting about it on January 5th, a day after the FBI moved to close the case and then struck intervene to reopen it?
A day later, Obama, Biden, Comey, Sally Yates, Susan Rice, a bunch of people have this meeting where Obama gives them guidance.
Susan Rice writes this really weird email like we're just doing everything by the book.
lydia smith
To herself?
tim pool
To herself.
And then on the 12th, Flynn's name gets leaked to the press from the Obama administration.
And on the 24th, the FBI writes down in notes, you know, why are we doing this?
Do we want to prosecute him or get him fired?
Why would the FBI be seeking to get somebody fired?
Unless it was true that the point of this was to sabotage the Trump administration coming
So here's what I tell people.
I have a lot of conversations about Obamagate and I say straight up, you want to be very, very careful about what you assert, right?
So a bunch of conservatives have said straight up, Obama was trying to sabotage Trump.
That's hard to prove definitively, but what you can say is, The FBI was trying to get a Trump administration official fired.
Ask that question.
That's your wedge in the door.
The door's not open, but you hit that wedge there.
I want that question answered.
Why did the FBI say, we have no derogatory information on Michael Flynn, then Peter Strzok intervenes and says, no, no, no, we'll keep it open.
Then in this meeting with Obama, a day later, they cite the Logan Act, a law that's never been used before, which is archaic, to go after Flynn.
His name then gets leaked to the press.
Here's my personal opinion.
The FBI is going to close the investigation.
Peter Strzok intervenes.
In the meeting with Obama, Comey mentions the Logan Act.
They then start basically going after Flynn on the Logan Act.
In the Washington Post article that finally published Flynn's name, they do also mention the Logan Act.
I think that ceded the information to Flynn, who panicked, And then in a informal meeting, ended up lying about what
he had said.
The FBI used that against him.
And they said in their notes, is it to get him fired or prosecute him?
Or, you know, what are we doing here?
So it seems like it was kind of a setup.
It seems like Flynn may have made a mistake, but it seems like they were going after him.
He panicked.
And then, look, perjury, like Obama claimed it was perjury.
If it was perjury, that would have been under oath in a formal investigation.
Flynn—this was not the case.
Apparently, it was an informal meeting at the White House, and they were like, ah, we got you now.
You lied.
Why was he unmasked in the first place?
The FBI said no derogatory information.
What was their reasoning for extending this and trying to use a law that's never been used before?
Stands to reason.
Malintent.
However, all you really need to say, if anyone's asking, is why did the FBI want to try and get Flynn fired?
That doesn't make sense.
That is not what the law enforcement agencies are supposed to be doing.
After that, there's some serious questions that need to be asked.
If the FBI was trying to get Flynn fired, then why did Joe Biden seek to unmask the name of Michael Flynn?
I'm not going to make any accusations against Joe Biden.
I don't know why he made, on January 12th, the same day the name got leaked to the press.
I don't know.
But I think it's grounds for some questions, maybe some written testimony or something.
There was no grounds, we now know, for the Russiagate investigation.
If that was the basis for a sound investigation, according to many of these resistance anti-Donald Trump types, then we also have substantially more grounds for an investigation in the other direction.
I am not thrilled about the incoming Lindsey Graham hearings that's going to be happening.
To me, that sounds like it's going to be boring.
I am interested to know what they were doing and why they were doing it.
And the only thing I can really say is it would be, in my opinion, improper of me to argue that Donald Trump shouldn't have his own special counsel to investigate why this, you know, fictitious claim was levied against him, why for three years these individuals who had no evidence, who admitted under oath they had no evidence, were lying about him.
I wonder if at the very least there's a defamation charge that could be levied.
But if I entertained Russiagate for years, and I did, Then it would be unfair for me to say we should not have an investigation to dig into the origins of this.
There's a few really important points.
One is that the dossier they used as a large portion of their pretext to start the Russia collusion investigation into Trump, which ultimately turned up nothing, was seeded with Russian disinformation.
Even socialist magazine Jacobin has said the Democrats were pushing Russian propaganda.
We really need to understand why that happened.
So we've got the John Durham investigation, which is now a criminal probe.
They're going to be investigating a lot of things.
Maybe there'll be indictments.
I honestly don't know.
The Horwitz report proved FISA abuse.
This proved Devin Nunes was right.
And now we're going to hear about... We're going to have Lindsey Graham's... Did I say Lindsey Graham?
It's Lindsey Graham who's going to be doing these panels.
I don't trust that guy.
We'll see how this plays out.
But anyway, long story short, Perhaps these resistance people shouldn't have asked for
these, set these rules in play.
This was the grounds for which they said we should have a special counsel investigation
into the Trump administration.
And now we have more evidence to suggest that Barack Obama was involved, to what degree
we don't know.
Some people are arguing that's a bigger scandal than Watergate because Obama knew about this
when he shouldn't have.
His own chief of staff sought unmasking of a political rival.
It's very, very, very complicated.
But at the very least, there is more evidence to suggest wrongdoing here than there was in the Russia investigation.
If we all entertained Russia, it would only be fair to entertain something in the other direction.
I don't like the hearings.
I think they're boring.
I think they're bad for this country.
But if that's what we're going to get, then so be it.
The left, Biden, Me Too, all that stuff, they argued for all these rules, and they got the rules they asked for.
They said, you know, believe all women.
Now that it's affecting Joe Biden, they're throwing it out the window.
I'm not going to play that game.
If you put the Republicans and the conservatives through this whole thing and the Trump supporters, and the Trump supporters say, okay, now it's only fair that we get our investigation, what's the argument?
Yeah, I'm sorry, that's the case.
So, this turned into something a lot longer based on the question of unmasking, but there, I got it all out.
lydia smith
That was a valid question.
tim pool
It was tough earlier today because trying to do a segment that walks everyone through, it was like, it would have been three hours.
Like, I started and stopped so often because I'm like, man, I gotta explain how the FISA courts work, the FISA abuse, 2012, 2011, NASA, NSA, FBI.
lydia smith
And you even said nobody knows what unmasking is.
tim pool
Yep.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, well I'm glad you had a chance to explain it though.
tim pool
So maybe that will be its own segment.
We'll see how that plays out.
Let's read questions again.
adam crigler
Oh yeah, I was chatting with the chat.
I was just hanging out.
unidentified
That works.
lydia smith
Just chilling.
tim pool
Lindsey Graham, I don't think we'll end up doing anything, so we'll see how things play out.
Jamie says, thanks for not being fake news.
I always think you're as, you're an objective as you're, you're as objective as possible.
Here's some money.
I really appreciate it.
adam crigler
Nice.
tim pool
I try to just be like, I don't, I don't care if Trump wins or loses.
I really don't.
I don't like the idea of buying.
I don't like the idea of Hillary Clinton, but in 2016, when it was like Trump versus Hillary, I don't care.
I really don't.
And so when it comes to who's right and who's wrong.
adam crigler
I think you might've said to me in 2015 sometime that you would prefer Trump winning.
But the only reason you said is because it would be great for news.
You're like, I just will enjoy watching it happen.
tim pool
Light it all on fire.
unidentified
No, no.
tim pool
The one thing I said all the time in 2015 was, if you like the status quo, Yeah.
Then you want to vote for Hillary Clinton.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
The war, the intervention, and the American economy, like the way the machine was churning, it was enriching a lot of elites.
And I was like, but if you want, you know, it's a long spiel I used to go on to people, like if you want to see either a complete disruption of the system, a challenge to the status quo, or you want to see America, like, It's basically Hillary Clinton was the interventionist candidate.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, so it's like if you like everything we're doing overseas, the Middle East, the oil exploration, the seizing of, you know, the deposing foreign governments and things like, you know, removing foreign governments and stuff, Hillary Clinton was your choice.
adam crigler
Oh, politics.
tim pool
Yeah.
But if you wanted something different or you want to watch the world burn, you vote for Trump.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But Trump is, you know, I think my assessment back then was actually incorrect because Trump really bolstered America and like made it work really well.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I didn't expect, I didn't see that coming.
I wasn't going to vote, I don't care though.
So what ends up happening is a story will come out and I'm like, it is what it is.
Like the Republicans voting for the most part to block the amendment that would stop spying on browser history.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
That's complete BS.
I'm like, why would I vote for these people?
It was mostly Democrats who voted to remove that power.
I don't like the Democrats either, though.
I hate them all.
F them all.
Alright, alright.
Here we go.
lydia smith
Bye.
tim pool
Oh, thanks.
I don't know anything about Blink-182 or what this is.
loved Lids Blink-182 shirt. Want to know everyone's thoughts on the albums California and 9.
Rumor has it Tom DeLonge may return. Lids gets two Super Chats.
Oh, thanks.
I don't know anything about Blink-182 or what this is. Do you?
lydia smith
Tom DeLonge was on Joe Rogan talking about the aliens.
He was the one who got that Navy footage released.
So he kind of got in trouble, I think.
Didn't they come down on him for releasing the alien footage?
tim pool
I don't know.
lydia smith
Yeah, he caused all sorts of trouble.
But yeah, both those albums were okay.
Nine was better than California.
That's my take.
unidentified
Cool.
tim pool
SMU says, a little thanks to all of you for sifting through all the news on a daily basis, I'm assuming?
Stay awesome!
P.S.
Not enough praise for Soy Jesus!
Harumph, I say!
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Harumph!
adam crigler
Thank you very much.
tim pool
Jared says, from Wisconsin here, when tyranny becomes law, revolution becomes duty.
Small bars are in almost every town and important to all rural economies.
Decent place to live if you stay north of Milwaukee.
Kim, thanks for becoming a member.
TheRedBikeMaster says, what's the price of China, Jerno?
What is the price of China?
unidentified
I don't know.
lydia smith
I don't know.
tim pool
Stargate says, Babylon Bee just published an article.
CNN replaces President Trump's press briefings with President Xi's.
Whoever made Babylon Bee is hilarious.
lydia smith
That is amazing.
adam crigler
Oh my gosh, I love them.
Yeah, Babylon Bee is hilarious.
Excellent.
lydia smith
Oh man.
adam crigler
So true.
tim pool
New Dayz says, would you ever think about making more calm voice TimCast videos like you used to?
lydia smith
Soothing.
tim pool
Soothing?
Like ASMR?
Yeah.
I just, I just... A calm quiet time.
I think that was an issue of like... Mellow Tim.
You get more and more into it, you get better, you get more comfortable, you get more confident.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And, you know, I don't know.
adam crigler
I definitely feel more comfortable here than when we first started.
tim pool
Yeah, you get into it and you get more excited and exuberant.
adam crigler
And sitting in your seat definitely helped me when you were gone.
AdamCast.
Yeah.
Yeah, makes a difference.
tim pool
Let's see.
Kim Ruddy says, I take my breaks at the hospital around your uploads.
I appreciate the hard work.
Thank you.
Ryan Walker says, 30% of UK economy vanishing by July and furlough extended till October.
Being economic suicide, the Tories need to start prioritizing the economy now.
Absolutely, otherwise they're going to get blamed for it.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
Connor Greenwell says, thank you for all what you do.
It seems any opinion contrary to media gets demonized.
How does one communicate with the ideologically possessed?
That's a question we were asking a couple days ago.
I have no idea, man.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
They don't care about the truth.
adam crigler
Nope.
tim pool
Chris Pivoto says, hi all.
For your video, why people are still in CA.
Why fed military service?
We hope to move in a few years after nurse school.
CA's son is good to our youngest with down syndrome.
California's got great weather, man, but their government is a nightmare.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's a scary place.
tim pool
Christopher says, so which comment gets this demonetized first, Circle of Jerks or Bill Cosby?
unidentified
Circle of Jerks.
They were both good fun.
adam crigler
That one threw me off.
I wasn't expecting it.
Funny, though.
tim pool
Chris says, nice hard flip, buddy.
Yes, if you go to the YouTube channel youtube.com slash Bragic, B-R-A-G-I-C, and search for me, I got a couple videos over my buddy Bragic.
adam crigler
So old, though.
Don't you hardflip, lateflip now?
tim pool
The one from three years ago where I do a hardflip, lateflip.
adam crigler
Oh, that's that one.
tim pool
And then I've got another one where I do a hang ten hardflip, lateflip, which is crazy.
It's a nollie half, half like endo, late halfflip.
It's a weird trick.
adam crigler
Yeah, cool.
tim pool
All the crazy street tricks.
Steven says Tim are you open to sharing fan art? I have ideas for the three of you
I can promise the art won't be homoerotic for you and Lydia can't promise that forever
Send it to the PO box Box over at TimCast.com slash donate.
adam crigler
Thank you.
unidentified
Oh no.
tim pool
Hold on.
adam crigler
Wink.
lydia smith
Hold on.
tim pool
TimCast.com slash donate.
There's a P.O.
Box.
Send your homoerotic Adam fan art.
He's looking forward to it.
He'll put it on the wall.
lydia smith
I can't wait.
adam crigler
I won't put it on the wall.
Why not?
Right here.
tim pool
I'm assuming it'll be tasteful.
Alright, let's read.
Iron Zeppelin says, down with the fascist media.
Agreed!
David Palmer says, will Ian Crossland ever come back?
He will!
Cosmic Garth.
Yeah, we're trying to figure out... Adam will probably take over a certain night or something.
We're working on it, but you're probably going to do your own show anyway, too.
adam crigler
Yeah, I think that's more the plan.
tim pool
Yeah, like, what do you think, same setup, just on your own channel?
adam crigler
Yeah, probably.
tim pool
Yeah, and then you and Ian and whoever else you have and things like that, you should probably just start doing it.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's true.
All right.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Chrissy says, would love to hear your thoughts on cop who got fired for video on constitutional rights being infringed.
Sounds like a really good dude.
Sounds like a really good dude.
adam crigler
Agreed.
tim pool
Honorable man.
adam crigler
Is that the guy in Oregon or Washington or something?
tim pool
Washington.
adam crigler
Washington.
tim pool
And he said, you got to stand with the, you know, you got to defend the constitution.
And they came to him and said, take the video down.
He says, I will not.
And they fired him.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Well, that dude's a good dude.
And I hope more cops agree the Constitution is, you swear an oath to it, you know?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Isaac says, Adam, get a Manscaped sponsor.
They'll love you.
You could start doing the show and then get like Dollar Shave Club.
adam crigler
Who do I call?
I don't know.
tim pool
They call you.
adam crigler
Is that how it works?
tim pool
You're gonna lug this one, Adam.
Charlemagne says, Wheel of Time is one of the best series that I've ever read.
I have read the series two times.
The Stormlight Archive is also really good.
adam crigler
I'm in my second run right now.
Actually, on the way here, when we were driving here, we were listening to the first book in the audiobook.
tim pool
Yeah?
adam crigler
And I was just like, man, this is a good book.
I remember it all now.
tim pool
How old is it?
adam crigler
It started in the 90s, I think, and ended four years ago?
Yeah, four years ago, I think.
tim pool
Four years ago?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I'll check it out.
adam crigler
It's really long.
It's really long.
It's like 14 books long.
unidentified
Whoa!
tim pool
Okay, maybe not.
adam crigler
A thousand pages each.
And it's pretty slow, but once you let the images take over, you know, when you're reading, it just goes right through, yeah.
tim pool
Cracklin says, with all the loaded questions, false premises, and outright lying, the leftist media is bound to get the black lung pops.
Yeah.
Mark Robertshaw says, the major problem with true immortality, like, unable to die, at all, is that gravity wells will be the ultimate trap.
That's how you deal with immortal beings.
Throw them into the sun, or a black hole.
adam crigler
Yeah, that would suck.
tim pool
Just like trapped in the sun forever.
adam crigler
We should probably move it along.
tim pool
Move it along?
adam crigler
Yeah, 9.30.
Let's do the last segment.
tim pool
You want to jump to the last?
adam crigler
Well, no, you can jump along to the end and then we'll jump to the last segment.
tim pool
Okay, so we're going to speed things up.
Adam is basically saying, just to cut everybody off, and he's ordering you now.
adam crigler
Well, I'm doing what you'd normally do.
tim pool
I'm kidding, I'm just putting the blame on you so that I can pretend like it's not my fault.
adam crigler
Sure.
tim pool
Adam, fine.
You're making me do this.
I'm so sorry, everybody.
unidentified
You know what?
tim pool
Read them all.
unidentified
No!
adam crigler
No, no, I'm fine with it!
Read it all!
tim pool
Sorry if we can't get to your comments.
We go on tangents here on the show.
lydia smith
Little bit, little bit.
tim pool
We're going to speed things up, so apologies.
John Perry says, F the New England area, they're lost in lefty wonderland and an unnatural business.
Rest yes, some big one will survive, but the less managed ones will go under and or be taken over by the new ones.
John Perry then goes on to say, I drive semis, so I see it more than most.
Austin Laverty says, Tim talking with his bosses when leaving the corporate media.
Kill me or release me, parasite, but do not waste my time with talk.
Absolutely.
Indeed.
That's kind of what I said.
I said to the president of this company, I was like, why am I here?
This is what your plan is.
You're wasting money.
I should just leave.
And they were like, no, no, no, no, no.
They didn't want the bad press.
So they dropped a huge, ridiculous paycheck in my bank account, hoping that would shut me up or something.
Golden handcuffs.
John Hill says, I've been watching Tim every day since 2017, and I'm pretty sure my conscience is just a version of Tim.
What the hell are you doing?
Don't be a moron.
P.S.
Adam was right.
I freaked out when you said, Hi John, live.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Called it.
Yep.
David Palmer says, I live in Los Angeles.
Feels like the homeless has tripled.
I think it's because so many people have been released from jail.
Yeah, that's probably a good point.
adam crigler
That doesn't make sense.
tim pool
LaSalle says, Barney did not even vote.
Yeah, he didn't, I guess.
Vash says, 80-16, Sanders was on the no list.
adam crigler
Paul was.
unidentified
Yep.
adam crigler
Bernie didn't do it.
tim pool
Bernie was on the no list?
adam crigler
That's what Barney is.
Bernie.
Bernie didn't vote.
tim pool
Right, but this is a- Oh yeah, that's right, Bernie was abstained from, like, two of these votes.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Wait, so Rand Paul was on the right side, right?
I'm assuming.
On the 16th?
I'm sure.
adam crigler
I would assume so, yeah.
tim pool
Was not on the no-list.
Yeah, Paul was on the no-list, right.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
Rand Paul is, like, one of the- He's a rock.
tim pool
Yeah, well, he's Ron Paul's kid, man.
lydia smith
I appreciate him.
tim pool
He's his own man, but, yeah, he's amazing.
Yes!
It's really good.
If you liked Wheel of Time, you'll love Sword of Truth.
first time when I was in sixth grade. I'm going to check out Sword of Truth due to Soy
Jesus' recommendation.
adam crigler
Yes! It's really good. If you like Wheel of Time, you'll love Sword of Truth. Man, that
was a good series.
tim pool
Jim Wattari says, for bird feed.
We do need bird feed, actually.
adam crigler
No, we don't.
No, we don't.
tim pool
We have a lot?
adam crigler
We have two massive bags.
tim pool
We just need to put the thing back up.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
adam crigler
we're good on the feet send us money for bird bird feed
tim pool
Yeah, there you go.
Ryokan says the Wisconsin governor didn't follow the state law to extend the shutdown.
The governor had to consult the state legislature to extend the shutdown more than 30 days.
He never did.
That's why it was unconstitutional.
And now he's crying about it.
So, thanks for joining.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Wolfenkin says in Australia it's compulsory to vote or be fined 50 bucks.
Would you pay the fine or vote for Trump?
The main thing is right now I've laid out there's a bunch of really good reasons to vote for Trump.
The main reason I'm saying I'm just not completely sure is because there's a long time between now and then and I don't want to be like I'm very reticent to support literally anybody.
Anybody.
It's like I mentioned after Obama being like hope and change and I'm like yes Obama and then he's like no I just blew up a bunch of kids and I'm like Eggman says, I legit don't get people who are for the lockdown.
Do they not have loved ones to feed?
We'll see.
You know.
But if it came down to it, like on the day of, I could vote for a bunch of different
people.
You don't gotta vote just for Trump.
So I'd vote.
unidentified
Who knows?
tim pool
Eggman says, I legit don't get people who are for the lockdown.
Do they not have loved ones to feed?
Are they not concerned about their rapidly draining bank account?
We shouldn't even need to be explaining this.
No, it's because they don't understand how economics works and they think the government just like snaps their fingers and food appears.
They think the government can just print money and put in their pocket and they can buy food.
They don't seem to realize that if you don't make stuff, there's no stuff to buy.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
That's what they don't get.
That's why socialism doesn't work.
Charles says, air rifles have gotten very advanced.
If you have the money, you can get air rifles that can be used to hunt water buffalo.
Wow!
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Several states have recently added certain air rifles to take deer.
Amazing.
John Perry says, If I whistle in my woods, the woods whistle back, and my city friends didn't get it till my three buddy came out of the woods and scared them and I said, let Antifa and the cops come here and try to take my rights.
BlackRockBeacon says, I'm in PA and I'm looking to leave after the last state election cycle.
And now this lockdown BS.
I'm looking at land in northern Florida.
There is an old hotel for sale in Jasper you could convert into a studio complex.
That's cool.
adam crigler
Florida.
tim pool
Nah, too hot.
Not for me.
adam crigler
Not a big fan of Florida.
tim pool
Joel says, Will you ever open up an Australian arm?
We badly need honest commentators here, as we just lost our most prominent voice on radio, Alan Jones, who has been on top for 35 years.
There is a market.
Let me know.
Connections here.
I don't know anything about Australia.
lydia smith
If you could get your spiders under control, I would totally move there.
That'd be so cool.
tim pool
Oblividan says, I'm using my Trump bucks on a new gun.
Here's some bucks for you to do the same.
I recommend a Mossberg 590, but you should get what you're comfortable with.
I really like the placement of the safety on the 590, though.
Well, we'll do.
We'll figure things out, but I'm looking at other states.
One of the reasons, because Bitcoin, beers, and... What's a B word for guns?
I don't know, you got three Bs, right?
lydia smith
BB guns?
tim pool
No.
adam crigler
Not powerful enough.
tim pool
Yeah, what's a, what's a, I don't know, bazookas.
adam crigler
Oh, there you go.
tim pool
There you go.
adam crigler
There you go.
tim pool
Bitcoin, beer, and bazookas.
Uh, I was thinking Beretta.
Beretta, there you go.
One of the reasons I'm looking at other locations is just better rights.
So we've looked at some states, but we also like, if we have guests, then it's the airport is mandatory.
You know, like having people who can come.
That's why Texas might be good, but I don't know, man.
We'll see how things play out.
Likefrylikefry says, you can have chicken and ducks on Long Island, New York.
Of course, if the S hits the fan, got to grab a boat or swim.
But we do have a lot of farms here.
I like chickens.
Skullboy says, not much to say, just keep up the good work.
Fight the good fight.
Will do.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Boomsticks.
There it is, boomstick.
adam crigler
Yeah, boomstick.
Old school boomstick.
I like it.
tim pool
Bobcat says, you should go to Texas and get some cows so you can stop being all hat and no cattle.
Also, when are you going to talk about the Vela incident?
Well, I think that's something... We looked into it.
adam crigler
It's just a big flash.
Well, Lydia also looked into it a little bit.
lydia smith
It seemed minor.
adam crigler
I didn't see enough information.
It was like a big flash over the ocean or something that no one could explain.
It's like, okay.
lydia smith
I'll look at it some more tomorrow.
adam crigler
I mean, it could have been an asteroid that blew up in the atmosphere.
lydia smith
Yeah, it's happened in Russia.
adam crigler
Yeah, it just happened last year in Russia.
tim pool
There's a lot of videos of that stuff.
adam crigler
It's not... I don't know.
unidentified
Here we go.
tim pool
Mr. Laxative says, if you're still into magic, look up the Red Enchantment's Repercussion and Furnace of Wrath.
You will quadruple any damage you do.
It's a match made in Burndeck Heaven, though it's a double-edged sword.
adam crigler
Yeah, if you can get them out under the right circumstances.
tim pool
Yeah, but I mean, is that even... Yeah, that's enchantment, so it's not even... Like, even commander would be difficult to pull off.
adam crigler
Yeah, Furnace of Wrath has, like, four red symbols also, so you really need, like, a heavy red deck to play it.
I don't know exactly what it is, but something like that.
tim pool
José Juan Isaac Tavares says, Milk Toast gets the money, which means Milk Toast adapts to the market, advocates free speech, maintains left-right viewership because of honest, authentic journalism.
You do you, Tim.
Actually interesting, I think the biggest, I mentioned this before we did a poll, the biggest group is libertarian.
But it's not, it's not right libertarian, it's just like general libertarian.
adam crigler
Yeah, okay.
tim pool
So it's basically people just saying, freedom.
And so the more I'm like, I don't know about them policies, but freedom, everyone's like, here, here.
Yeah.
adam crigler
You make a good point, though, Tim.
tim pool
We can disagree on the policies, but just don't tell me what to do.
adam crigler
Freedom.
tim pool
Freedom!
adam crigler
I like my freedom.
tim pool
Absolutely.
It's Quinn Drum says, big fan from Australia, love the work you guys do.
What kind of skateboards do you guys own?
adam crigler
I have so many.
tim pool
Yes, too many.
adam crigler
No, I don't have too many.
I do have a lot.
I was a professional skater for a while.
I even designed my own board for Arbor Skateboards, so I have a few of those.
That's like my go-to longboard that I ride.
It's a really good board.
And, uh, yeah.
Then I started really getting into, like, classical skateboarding, and now I own too many of those.
tim pool
Too many?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
The board I use is a real 8.5 by 31.75 with Indy Trucks, I believe they're 144.
The trucks to fit an 8.5.
I got some Bones Swiss and Ricta 54s.
I think I got a Jessup grip.
No, actually, I think I have Mob Grip on that board.
adam crigler
Hmm.
I don't know.
No idea.
tim pool
Yeah, I love deluxe distribution boards.
I like anti-hero, real.
That's what I use.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's see, where we at?
Joel says, will you ever open up an Australian arm?
We badly need honest commentators here.
I think this was, you mentioned this before, and I read that, but that's a duplicate.
The Grizzly says Polygon decried racism because you shoot black people in the new Cyberpunk game.
The creator of the game is black and he called Polygon racist.
Also, they have a Cthulhu module in Cyberpunk.
In short, if we don't get Cthulhu.
adam crigler
So is that the Karens at Polygon?
tim pool
Totally.
adam crigler
We're getting upset?
tim pool
It's fake outrage.
adam crigler
Like, oh my gosh, it's something we can yell about!
Yay!
unidentified
Awesome!
tim pool
We need clicks.
Let's complain.
adam crigler
And the maker's like, I'm black, I made that.
Like, what are you talking about?
tim pool
Exactly.
adam crigler
It's like, come on!
tim pool
Yep.
adam crigler
Fake outrage is ridiculous.
tim pool
Let's see.
I can't read this name.
It's a bunch of letters and numbers.
Hey Tim, you should see the original Death Wish movie from 1974, Rip Charles Bronson.
I was skeptic of Bruce Willis doing the remake, but for once they actually didn't copy the storyline frame by frame.
I heard it was good.
Thomas Ray says, Texas would love to have you guys.
We have 80 miles an hour speed limit.
Government isn't the worst.
And if you pass a background check, you can get a gun same day.
I like that.
lydia smith
I noticed that speed limit.
tim pool
Yes.
lydia smith
It's nice.
adam crigler
Yeah, it is 80.
It's nice.
tim pool
TheGamingGinger says, What's up, Tim?
I'm paying the $5 for your membership, but I noticed some of the previous streams don't appear unless I've watched it live.
Do you have any ideas as to why?
Enjoy the donation, and thanks all you do.
Wait, you said $5, but you gave $50, bro.
adam crigler
I hope you- Well, no, for the membership.
tim pool
Oh, oh, okay, right on, right on.
adam crigler
So for one, thanks for that super chat.
I appreciate that.
tim pool
If you go to youtube.com slash TimCastIRL, there's a playlist called Live Shows, which should have every episode in it.
It's been so long since I've even seen any Simpsons episode.
Simpsons did it, Simpsons did it, by the way.
Do you have a favorite Halloween Treehouse of Horror segment or episode?
Oh man, I don't know.
adam crigler
It's been so long since I've even seen any Simpsons episode.
I can't remember a thing.
tim pool
Okay, I gotta read this one.
Lauren Chen vs. Lauren Southern in a boxing match.
Who wins?
lydia smith
Chen, 100%.
tim pool
Why do you think?
lydia smith
She's way badass-er.
Pardon my French.
unidentified
Whoa!
adam crigler
Alright!
tim pool
Write it down.
You gotta bleep it.
Write it down.
lydia smith
Oh yeah, we can leave it in.
tim pool
I think it's a funny question, but I don't know who would win.
unidentified
I'm biased, so... I don't even know who any of those two are.
adam crigler
I'm gonna go with Chen.
unidentified
As somebody who is... Just because Lydia said it.
Yeah.
adam crigler
Trust me.
I trust you.
tim pool
Lauren Chen is a Hapa.
Okay?
adam crigler
A what?
tim pool
Hapa.
lydia smith
Hapa.
She's part Asian.
tim pool
Half Asian.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Oh, is that what that means?
tim pool
And I'm a Quapa.
Quarter Asian.
lydia smith
Quarter Pacific Asian.
tim pool
So I'm gonna... New terms I'm learning today.
I'm gonna be totally racially biased.
adam crigler
Whoa.
But you're allowed to, right?
tim pool
Yeah, he's allowed.
adam crigler
No.
No?
tim pool
I'm making a joke specifically about... Okay, I'm not even going to go there anymore.
adam crigler
No, no, no.
Just keep moving on.
lydia smith
Keep moving on.
tim pool
JMaxx says, follow that Twitter spat today between some creators on the whole debate me bro drama.
I really wish people would stop seeking owns and just have a discussion.
I think it would be way more productive and everyone could do with a bit of differential perspectives.
lydia smith
Amen.
tim pool
This is why I don't do discussions.
I don't debate.
Debates are stupid.
Debates are, like, this is what people don't get.
Someone tweeted at me like, I disagree, debates are great because then people can share their views.
That's not what debate is.
Debates have tactics.
There's something, I think it's called a gish gallop.
I could be wrong.
Where it's like, you try and say a bunch of random nonsense to confuse your opponent.
It's stupid.
Debate is about appearing like you've bested them when you're really using tactics and techniques to confuse them to appear like you've won.
I know that's not necessarily what people think of when they think of debate.
I don't like it.
I like discussion.
If I said something like, I don't think UBI, Universal Basic Income, makes sense.
And then someone said, but Tim, have you considered this study from this institute showing that these things happened?
I'd say, wow, I didn't realize that thing existed.
Let me read it.
Interesting.
Well, how do you account for these things?
That's a real conversation.
Really trying to get together to understand the truth and share ideas.
Nobody does that.
That's why I stopped doing these.
I did a handful of these like online discussions with people and they immediately were just like snipping clips and being like, I just destroyed Tim Pool.
And I'm like, you took the clip out of context.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, and it wasn't even destroyed.
It was me going like, that's a good point.
I appreciate that.
And I'm like, I got you.
And I'm like, okay, I agree with you.
adam crigler
Nice.
tim pool
Yeah, it's really weird.
A lot of these people are so adversarial.
They don't know how to respond when they say something, and I go, that's a good point.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then they're like, what?
adam crigler
But I had all these other points that I was going to throw at you.
tim pool
But I was going to prove I was smarter than you.
Yeah, I don't know.
You made a good point, I guess.
adam crigler
Yeah, people aren't used to that.
tim pool
Yep.
Yeah, it's like, I love this one moment with Jordan Peterson.
I know the interview was clipped improperly, but he was asked about social justice in, you know, like restaurants, and he says, we shouldn't do this at bakeries.
And then Jim Jeffries is like, what about the civil rights, you know, era?
And then Jordan goes, perhaps I was wrong about that.
It's like that simple.
Just like, oh, I didn't.
Oh, there you go.
You know, maybe I was wrong.
lydia smith
It gets so much easier when you do it that way.
adam crigler
People need to let people be wrong.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And say, if it's OK, like, Why do you care what someone else is mad at you if you're wrong?
It's people trying to defend their egos.
adam crigler
It's an emotional thing, not a logical thing.
tim pool
I had a bunch of people tweeting at me about the Ahmed Arbery video.
I tweeted it out.
And I'm like, bro, I have no idea.
I go into all my videos all the time and I'm like, I was wrong about that.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's great.
There are a couple people have tweeted me like, hey, you're wrong, I disagree with them.
And I'm like, but I'm gonna put your video in my description anyway and say,
this person said I was wrong here and I'll link to their video.
Even smaller channels.
I don't care.
I say all the time, I'm like, I'm not infallible.
If I get it wrong, I get it wrong.
I just gotta go in and be like, I don't care about that.
adam crigler
Nobody is.
tim pool
Yeah.
That's the problem with media organizations.
They'll be wrong.
They'll put out a fake story, and instead of being like, sorry about that guys, we try our best, they cover it up, they sweep it under the rug, or they just don't fix it.
adam crigler
Pathetic.
Here's a random comment.
It's not a super chat, but it's amazing.
Mangodon555 says, skateboard brand, TNA, Tim and Adam, beanie boards.
tim pool
I said beanie boards the other day, remember?
adam crigler
I don't care, it's awesome.
unidentified
I love it.
adam crigler
Nice job, Mango.
tim pool
One of the things that I'm looking for right now is... I have plans.
We have Scanner.
For those unfamiliar, it's scnr.com.
They're doing on-the-ground, in-depth reporting.
adam crigler
Looks good.
tim pool
Awesome stuff.
And we'll have some announcements about it coming up.
Separately, there's going to be another outlet which is going to focus on fact-checking and aggregation and some original reporting.
So the goal would be...
When a big story breaks, we do a breakdown of it, we link to sources, and we critique, or, you know, we'll fact check.
We need space for that.
And so I've been looking into trying to find a building where we can house this, and it's very, very difficult.
There was one place I almost got last year, it fell apart, now the pandemic happened, so it's been a nightmare.
But we also want to have a retail shop in the front, with skateboards, gaming, and other stuff.
People can actually come and hang out.
Can you show the shirt?
Can you picture that on a skateboard?
more of a public thing and we'll have a studio in the back and then crazy people will show
up and we'll have to fight them off with like brooms and stuff.
adam crigler
I mean I can see, Lydia let me get your camera.
Can you picture, can you picture, show the shirt.
Can you picture that on a skateboard?
I can.
Or maybe at the top of the skateboard.
tim pool
And every board comes with a beanie.
adam crigler
Like it's wearing a beanie.
lydia smith
It's the perfect logo.
adam crigler
I agree.
And every board comes with a beanie.
tim pool
Wearing a beanie.
adam crigler
Wearing a beanie.
tim pool
I love it.
That's great.
adam crigler
Good ideas are happening, people.
tim pool
And then people will get heat stroke and they'll sue us.
lydia smith
Oh yeah, it'll be great.
adam crigler
No, no, it'll come with a waiver.
You have to sign.
tim pool
Don't wear this in the summer.
Yeah, all right.
But we'll see.
That's one of the big plans.
I would like to have a storefront with skate stuff and a ramp.
People can hang out.
Because we also want to film and just be like this open, transparent news space.
So if someone has a problem and they're like, you wrote fake news, you can literally come to the retail shop and go to the skate shop and someone will be working there making boards and you'll be like, I need to talk to somebody about this story.
And then we'll be like, yeah, give us a second.
And then you can submit your retraction request in person.
So it's like, we will have the best correction policy.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
All these news outlets are like, if you would like a request for a correction, send us an email.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
You shop at the store.
And you bang a little gavel.
We'll put a little gavel in.
adam crigler
Indeed.
Is someone hitting the gavel?
Oh, yes.
What is your grievance?
tim pool
And then we have one of the fact checkers come out and be like, what up?
And someone will be like, you said that Donald Trump did a backflip.
It was a front flip.
And we'll look at it.
We'll go over the evidence and go, you were right.
Let's go.
Let's go fix it.
unidentified
Yep.
lydia smith
That'll be great.
tim pool
That'll be the most transparent.
adam crigler
That's good reporting.
tim pool
So we need a space.
We might have found one.
The problem is a lot of these buildings are really old and it's like, you can buy them and then you gotta put a ridiculous amount of work into them.
I'm not gonna rent.
That seems nuts.
adam crigler
That's what ruined Miami.
tim pool
You know, you could rent a house, but then someone has leverage on you.
Exactly.
adam crigler
You couldn't do anything, really.
tim pool
Yep.
Someone comes by and they're like, I don't like what you do.
I don't like your politics.
Get out.
Get out.
adam crigler
Not really.
tim pool
Dangerous, dangerous.
adam crigler
Nope.
tim pool
Ole says, hey Tim, long time viewer.
Have you guys ever talked about Operation Tomodachi?
I was a US sailor on board CVN-76 and some seriously shady stuff happened.
I can send emails for follow-up if you want.
adam crigler
If you're on Twitter, hit me up.
There's my tag right there.
tim pool
Boom.
Easy.
adam crigler
Tweet at me.
tim pool
Best thing you guys can do.
Follow Adam and send him stuff and then Adam can go through all the suggestions and everything.
That would be awesome.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
James Wu says, I believe you said the Logan Act was passed in 1799.
During the Allen and Sedition Acts, Alien and Sedition Acts.
Please look up the XYZ affair.
Seemingly, the only official blatantly attempted power grab in US history.
Will do.
They always do.
soldier says the worst part is that no matter what, whatever they find out there, there
unidentified
No.
tim pool
will be no prosecution.
Even if it turns out to be treason, people will get away with it.
They always do, don't they?
They always do.
Look, man, this is why I always say, like, I don't care for the Republicans, because
what?
You've got Lindsey Graham.
He's not doing anything.
He's not going to do anything.
You've got Trey Gowdy.
He didn't do anything.
You've got a bunch of Republicans who literally do nothing.
Peter King, you've got, man, these, look, there's a lot of crony establishment people
on the Republican side, too.
There's a handful of good, you know, good Republicans.
There are a couple good Democrats.
But for the most part, the whole system is just filthy.
Aaron Garcia says, Tim, thanks for clearing up the unmasking.
I really appreciate it.
No problemo.
Let's see.
Juan says, don't forget the complicit media, docile, not curious, following along.
I suspect the National Defense Act of Obama administration that allowed propaganda to target the domestic population.
I think the media just wants to make money and they're nasty people.
And they don't care about the truth.
They just like, how can we, you know, make cash?
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
William Kimball says, Tim, have loved your content for two years.
I know you don't push causes onto people, but what do the first steps to solving lockdown appear like to you?
And fun reads for all of you that I would suggest would be Michael J. Sullivan's Riria Revelations.
Cheers.
What do the first steps to solving the lockdown look like?
Well, I think we're seeing it.
I mean, the Supreme Court of, I think, Wisconsin struck down the extension.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
We're seeing the phase... I think, for the most part, we're seeing something good coming.
These Democratic governors are, like, they're shooting themselves in the foot.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
The bars are reopening.
People are happy about it.
We're seeing phases slowly reopen.
Even California is allowing manufacturing to come back.
So let's just, you know, get on with it.
Hopefully it works out.
Jonathan Landy says, Whenever I talk about kinks in the supply chain, my mom just says the government can draw a line under it.
I don't know what to say to her at that point.
Much love from Ireland.
What does that mean?
Like the government is going to pull bread out from the basement and be like, don't worry, we saved the bread.
No, there's not going to be bread if nobody makes bread.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Rato says, MTG counterspell meta.
Screw you and anything you try to do.
P.S.
Thank you for the sanity you bring to news.
Appreciate it.
adam crigler
That's very accurate.
tim pool
Jeremiah, thanks for becoming a member.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Jackdaw says, move to Wyoming, we have Yellowstone, and the government barely know we exist.
Yeah, I really like that idea.
But it's mountain time, I think, right?
It's like, oof.
I'm an eastern time kind of person.
Jmac says, gonna design a TNA logo with a busty Rule 63 Tim and a bodacious, bummed Adam.
adam crigler
Yes!
I wanna see this!
Oh my gosh.
Let me see this.
tim pool
I can't.
You can mail to the P.O.
Box at timcast.com slash donate.
Please do.
You know, I was looking at small towns that need revitalization.
I was talking about this.
I think I talked about it earlier today.
KC and St. Louis. It is also centrally located and very welcoming and very
welcoming people. Great place for business. You know I was looking at small
towns that need revitalization. I was talking about this. I think I talked
about earlier today on the like I did a thing about you know Joe Rogan wanting
to move. Think about the good you can do if you were close to a town that had
seen it's like manufacturing drive or something and you're providing you know
basic trade jobs.
If you set up a big building, and you need plumbing, and you need carpentry, and you need general maintenance, you're going to create jobs in an area.
And then you'll actually bring more people in, which will create peripheral jobs.
Then you've got stores.
That sounds like a whole lot of fun.
Should we talk about the ACLU?
adam crigler
Yeah, I'm excited about that.
lydia smith
Let's do it.
tim pool
Let's do this.
adam crigler
Why not?
tim pool
So, the American Civil Liberties Union.
I used to be a big fan.
Now they're basically just the Anti-Civil Liberties Union, and I'll tell you why.
But first, let me show you this story.
This is from NBC News, picked up by Yahoo.
ACLU sues Betsy DeVos over new campus sexual assault rules.
Let's read a little bit, give you the context.
Education Secretary Betsy DeVos revised federal guidelines on how sexual assault allegations should be handled on college and K-12 campuses is the target of a federal lawsuit filed Thursday, claiming the changes would inflict significant harm on victims and dramatically undermine their civil rights.
The suit filed on behalf of four advocacy groups for sexual assault survivors, including Know Your 9, Girls for Gender Equity, and Girls for Gender Equity, is the first that attempts to block the Department of Education's new provisions before they go into effect on August 14th.
The rules championed by DeVos effectively bolster the rights of due process for those accused of assault and harassment, allowing for live hearings and cross-examinations.
It's what agency officials say was lacking under the Obama administration to protect all students under Title IX, a 1972 law that prohibits gender discrimination, including sexual assault at schools.
Quote, this new federal effort to weaken Title IX makes it more difficult for victims of harassment
or sexual assault to continue their educations and needlessly comes amid a global pandemic,
according to the suit which was filed in U.S. District Court in Maryland by the American
Civil Liberties Union and the New York-based law firms Strook and Strook and Levin, LLP.
The suit names DeVos, the Education Department, and Kenneth Marcus,
the agency's Assistant Secretary of Civil Rights.
The department did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the complaint, so let me just stop right here and break this down simply for you.
Even NBC News says, under Title IX, they needed more due process, live hearings, and cross-examinations.
Agency officials said this was lacking.
Why is the ACLU seeking to take away due process from The accused.
adam crigler
I'm kind of shocked.
This is something that DeVos is, I'm actually okay with.
tim pool
I know.
A lot of people have been.
I agree with this.
adam crigler
This is good.
Why are they fighting it?
tim pool
Well, let me give you some context.
adam crigler
Okay, go ahead.
tim pool
Title IX is an anti-discrimination provision that's been used.
So basically, you know, feminists have said, if a woman is assaulted or harassed, then it's unfair because if the universities don't go after these individuals, it's discrimination.
adam crigler
Okay.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
What's ended up happening is a lot of these universities don't care about due process, right?
They're not a legal court.
So they operate under what's called a preponderance of evidence.
If a woman accuses you, they ask you what happened.
And if you say something like, well, we were, you know, drinking and hanging out at my apartment.
They'll say, oh, good enough for us.
Yeah, you admit you were there and she said it happened.
You're expelled.
Due process would be I would like to cross-examine, you know, confront my accuser.
Things that you normally would get in the court, under English common law.
And, you know, with the Fifth Amendment, we have a right to real due process.
That doesn't exist.
Betsy DeVos is trying to give the same rights at universities that we get in a court of law.
adam crigler
That makes sense.
tim pool
To a certain degree, right?
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Well, it does.
If some woman comes out and says, this man assaulted me, well, do we destroy his life on your word?
We need evidence.
adam crigler
That literally happened to my friend.
Right.
Yeah.
tim pool
So Betsy DeVos wants to enact these rule changes and bolster the ACLU is arguing that violates the civil rights of the women.
adam crigler
How?
tim pool
But think about the logic there.
adam crigler
That doesn't make any sense.
tim pool
It doesn't.
Look man.
adam crigler
If everyone has equal rights, then it's just equal rights.
tim pool
When's the ACLU going to file suit to abolish the Fifth Amendment then?
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
It's not fair that the accused get to confront their accuser.
That's violating their civil rights.
unidentified
What?
adam crigler
So you can just accuse and then they just trust that and throw the guy in prison?
tim pool
They've done it.
adam crigler
I know they have.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do you know about like Mattress Girl?
adam crigler
Yeah, I think we talked about it.
tim pool
Emma Sulkowicz?
adam crigler
Yeah, and then she shifted, right?
Now she's, like, conservative or something?
unidentified
Yeah, right.
tim pool
But apparently, like, when she accused this guy, there were text messages showing that she was, like, it was not true, what she claimed.
adam crigler
What she was saying, yeah.
tim pool
She was begging him, she was messaging him for, you know, for years, saying, I love you and stuff like that.
And then it was, like, two years later, she accused him or something.
I'm probably getting the details wrong, but there are a lot of questionable, you know, storylines.
Yep.
Questionable bits of evidence.
So it would make sense that we make sure we protect the innocent.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Yeah, without these rules, you're not protecting the innocent.
You empower exploitation.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
Why would the ACLU seek to oppose this?
adam crigler
I don't know.
That doesn't make any sense to me.
tim pool
I can tell you why.
adam crigler
Go ahead, please.
Enlighten me.
tim pool
So, for those... I think we may have talked about the story, but I'll tell you guys the story.
The ACLU famously defended the KKK in Skokie, Illinois.
We talked about this recently, I think.
adam crigler
Oh yeah, okay, right, right.
tim pool
And they were very much liberal.
Like, we believe in liberty and freedom, and we're gonna stand up for the right to free speech.
I don't agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.
And back then, liberals cheered for it.
That's why today, the left is no longer liberal.
It's the easiest way to explain it.
If anyone ever says to you that, you know, they're liberals or whatever, Ask him about defending the right to free speech of the Klan.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Because that's what liberals used to do.
That's what they still do.
The left today is not liberal.
Liberals have left, and the ACLU has abandoned all liberal principles for money.
So the ACLU fought against Donald Trump's travel ban.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
He was, you know, this man in the seven countries.
And they immediately gained a whole bunch of leftist donors.
It was a windfall, how much cash they made.
When they then defended the right to free speech of Unite the Right in Charlottesville, they got attacked for it, and immediately bent the knee, saying, please don't take our money away.
We would be very upset if we lost our money.
adam crigler
They got a taste of that.
tim pool
Yup.
So now they're the anti-Civil Liberties Union.
They don't defend free speech, they have backpedaled, and now they're actively seeking to take away civil rights.
adam crigler
That's ridiculous.
tim pool
That's the anti-Civil Liberties Union.
It's gross, man, and it bugs me out because I worked for a company where we fundraised for the ACLU.
I was very proud.
I was like, dude, the ACLU is awesome.
I remember I was in Chicago.
We were doing street canvassing, and I was fundraising to one guy.
You stop people in the street, you wave, like, you know, hey.
So we would ask, do you have a minute to talk about defending civil rights?
And a lot of people would hear these stories.
And then I remember talking to one guy who said, you know, that like they very famously defended the KKK who like came up and they marched through a Jewish neighborhood.
And I was like, I absolutely didn't know that.
And he was like, you don't care.
And I was like, I don't like these people.
I don't like the message they bring.
adam crigler
Yeah, I don't agree with what they're saying.
tim pool
But we have a First Amendment in this country, and so you have to recognize that, you know,
dictators love the idea that they can infringe upon the rights of one, use it as a pretext,
because then they can take away the rights of all.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And the guy was like, I completely agree. He's like, I love what they do.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Man, I wonder what these, you know, old school liberals think now,
and how many of them sold their values out.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Think about, like, you know, I was talking to somebody last, I think it was like a year or two ago, about this shift.
And I was told that employees there, like the people who work there, like, they know.
They know they've sold their souls.
They know it's gotten bad.
They're no longer fighting for civil rights.
I think that's the gist of the story.
Oh, there's a little bit more.
Let's read a little bit more here, just to give the... There's actually a lot more.
Well, I don't want to get into too much of the nitty-gritty, but they say DeVos last week denied that the final rule would discourage victims from coming forward to report abuse and instead allows for schools to be more balanced in how they review claims, rather than through what she called a kangaroo court approach.
We can continue to combat misconduct without abandoning our core value of fairness, presumption of innocence, and due process.
So I'll tell you what, man.
I think we all saw where the MeToo movement went, and it was predictable for a lot of people.
Yeah.
of misconduct that might otherwise go ignored. Schools that fail to adhere to Title IX requirements
risk the loss of federal funding.
So I'll tell you what, man. I think we all saw where the MeToo movement went, and it
was predictable for a lot of people. The moment it came out for Biden, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa. We didn't mean against us.
What do you mean?
adam crigler
It's ridiculous.
tim pool
Now you get Vice President creepy hands and they don't care.
adam crigler
Creepy hands, man.
Yeah, this is something that we needed.
So I mentioned my friend.
A lot of people are making jokes about who my friend was.
I'm just going to tell the story.
When I was in high school, one of my good friends was dating this girl.
And he broke up with her.
And it was just like, as people do, they break up.
And three days later, she was freaking out at him in school, yelling at him, screaming, just emotions.
And then she just claimed, a couple days after that, that he raped her.
and he went to prison for two years and then after about like a year and a half to two years later well while he was in prison she she said to like a doctor or someone that look i feel really guilty i said this when i was younger i was emotional i don't love him anymore i don't feel the same way he didn't rape me i was just mad at him And it was like, what?
And then the courts found out and they released him and he lost two years of his life because he didn't, there was no questions asked.
He was just put in prison and they just believed what she said.
And it was, it's ridiculous because this kind of thing didn't exist.
tim pool
And you also got to think about what it looks like on a resume or your life history when there's a two year gap.
adam crigler
Exactly.
What happened?
tim pool
Where were you?
adam crigler
Oh, I was in prison for rape.
And it's like, how does that look?
You know, that's terrible.
tim pool
But I was innocent, trust me.
adam crigler
And he was, he was innocent.
tim pool
Have you seen the movie?
adam crigler
But that's not changing his record.
tim pool
Have you seen the movie?
adam crigler
Well, it's probably expunged.
Who knows?
I don't know how it works.
tim pool
Have you seen The Life of David Gale?
adam crigler
I have, yeah.
tim pool
Kevin Spacey movie, nonetheless.
That's true.
Yeah, creepy, right?
adam crigler
I haven't seen it in a long time.
I know he's in prison or something?
tim pool
No, he's not in prison.
adam crigler
Oh, I don't remember.
Someone's in jail, right?
tim pool
No, the guys who accused him have seriously died.
adam crigler
Wait, say it again?
tim pool
The guys who accused Kevin Spacey mysteriously died.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
I don't know how many.
adam crigler
Was it two people?
I do not remember that movie at all.
lydia smith
Yeah, that was weird.
tim pool
You don't remember Life of David Gill?
adam crigler
I don't remember it.
tim pool
I've seen it, but it's been a long time.
It's a great movie.
I recommend it if you guys haven't seen it.
He's an anti-death penalty activist.
He goes to a party and he's a college professor.
And this woman basically is like, you know, let's hook up.
She says things like, you know, harder, harder, scratch me, and like, tear it off about her
clothes, and he does.
And then she uses that against him to claim that he raped her.
And it was because apparently she was failing his class, and she tried to offer him, you know, sex in exchange for a
good grade, and he said no.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So she accuses him.
His life is immediately destroyed.
He's fired.
He can't get hired anywhere.
And then she just leaves.
And so what ends up happening is, the assumption is that she got scared and fled, and he must be guilty.
Even though there was no accusation, no proof, straight to his life.
And so, long story short, the movie is about him, he's on death row, and he's trying to explain the story of how he ended up there, and like, you know, this other woman that he was working with, how she died.
It's a really, really old movie, so I'm going to spoil a bit of it for you.
But basically it destroyed his life.
Made him extremely, I guess, suicidal.
And then he ended up martyring himself for the cause to resist the death penalty.
But it's interesting how...
Man, the court of public opinion, you could, like, your friend probably deals with the ramifications of that still to this day.
unidentified
Probably.
tim pool
In some capacity.
adam crigler
I mean, he has a wonderful family and a wonderful job now, and I'm really, really happy for him.
lydia smith
That's good.
adam crigler
And, uh... Two years.
So, I mean, but it still doesn't change what happened to him.
Yeah.
Two years, that's a lot of time.
tim pool
And there are gonna be people who... It's gone.
There are people who probably would believe you.
If you went to prison for something like this and then got released after it was proven you were innocent, people are still gonna have in the back of their minds Yeah, exactly.
The possibility, ooh.
Yeah.
It's crazy that people assume if you're being arrested, you've done something wrong.
Yep.
adam crigler
That's scary.
I agree.
That's the world we live in now, though.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yep.
I've seen so many videos where the cops will be arresting somebody.
Mm-hmm.
Like, you could put on a cop uniform and just chase someone down, and they will help you.
That's how scary... It's a con artist thing.
It's the use of authority for manipulation.
If you look like a cop, you can be having someone on the ground, and they can be screaming for help, and no one will help this person.
This is actually what criminals and con artists do.
To a certain degree.
They use that view of authority.
Think about that mentality people have.
Scale it up to someone getting arrested, doing a perp walk, and then the news being like, Adam Krigler was arrested for, you know, felony embezzlement.
He robbed, you know, and it wasn't true.
Everyone sees it on the news.
They don't care.
It's true as far as they're concerned.
You were arrested for it, therefore.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
That's why we always say we got it innocent until proven guilty.
adam crigler
That's what's so... Yeah, what happened to that?
tim pool
The ACLU saw some green.
lydia smith
Betsy's trying to bring it back, man.
tim pool
Yep.
This is the weirdest thing.
You know, there are certain cultural issues related to, you know, conservatives, religious issues, life and choice kind of issues, death penalty issues, things I don't agree with.
But right now, when it comes to the Constitution, freedom, the economy, you've got Bill Barr challenging these states on constitutional efforts.
You've got Betsy DeVos trying to bring back due process.
And I'm like, these are not- Rand Paul.
And Rand Paul.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
unidentified
Good dude.
Good dude.
tim pool
Staples.
So Bernie Sanders didn't show up for this vote.
adam crigler
What's up with that?
You'd think he'd be on the forefront.
tim pool
He could have been the one vote to end this spying abuse if he showed up.
adam crigler
What's up with that?
tim pool
That's Bernie!
I don't like any of these people, man.
But I'll individually support people I think do a great job.
It's funny that people want me to yell out who I'm going to vote for.
It's like, bro, I'd vote for Rand Paul in two seconds.
I don't even agree with him on a lot of issues, but he's a man of principle.
Yeah.
He stands up for the rights of the people, and I really, really respect that, you know, about him.
He's always on the side of, like, the government shouldn't have the power to do these things.
He's always... He's not perfect.
I'm sure there's some things I can call him out for, but I think he's a good dude.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, let's grab the last few Super Chats, and then we will all go to sleep, and sleep comfortably.
adam crigler
And by sleep, I mean play Doom Eternal.
lydia smith
And drink whiskey?
tim pool
Drink whiskey.
adam crigler
I might have a little bit of whiskey.
I've been slowing down.
I don't drink every night.
lydia smith
As long as there's games.
adam crigler
It is good, though.
tim pool
If you haven't already, there's one thing you really gotta do.
Smash that like button!
Just jam it!
adam crigler
That's right.
lydia smith
Oh, I have to do it.
tim pool
Smash that like button.
adam crigler
I've been liked it.
unidentified
Let's get 50,000 likes.
adam crigler
Come on, everybody!
Like the YouTube video!
tim pool
That was a joke for a while, because all these YouTube videos would pop up, where the guy would be like, yo, everybody, welcome to my vlog, man.
Before we talk about it, you gotta smash that like button!
And then it would go like, whee!
And the screen would shade.
It'd zoom in.
adam crigler
Well, where's our cool special effect?
tim pool
What the heck we should we should set one up, but people would do that
Yeah, and when you get those likes your video does get pushed up
adam crigler
I know what I'm gonna take this time to remind you how much I really want
Greta's face to pop up from the bottom screen. You have like a how dare you button. How dare you yeah?
tim pool
Expert grout.
adam crigler
How dare you?
And then it goes back down.
Man, I can't wait.
tim pool
It's hilarious.
But for real, the likes do help.
Really do appreciate it.
And share if you like the show.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
We'll be back tomorrow at 8pm.
Let's read these next few Super Chats before we all go to bed.
Steven says, just bought the same duster.
It's awesome.
Cool.
Vendor says, extra message.
I was joking about the manga.
I just want to see your reaction.
Big fan of you since 2018.
Oh, no manga.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Sean Ryan says, South Bend, Indiana is in major need of revitalization.
It's also Eastern time zone.
And it's really close to Chicago.
That wouldn't be so bad.
Gregory Horton.
How about Gary?
adam crigler
Gary, Indiana.
tim pool
Have you ever been to Gary?
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
Gary's fun.
adam crigler
I've only ever driven through Indiana.
Man, uh... That's it.
Actually, I went there once for fireworks to smuggle them into Illinois.
tim pool
I have a video from, I think it's from Gary, and it's called American Wasteland.
adam crigler
Is that Gary?
tim pool
Yeah, we go and look at a bunch of like this destroyed... Exciting.
Yep.
Where are we at?
Gregory says, check out Nemesis, a hypothetical star.
Cool.
D. Stoltenberg says, Coal Strip, Montana.
Town dying due to shutdown of coal power plant.
It is built around.
Can't sell your house if you tried.
Opportunity for a tech co?
Yeah, maybe.
Christian says, that ACLU article reminds me of the many guys that have been falsely accused.
Look at Mattress Girl, for example.
She lied, got the guy expelled, and was texting the guy for sex during the process.
unidentified
Oof.
tim pool
Christian says, check out Matt Christensen's latest video on the purpose of government.
It's a great watch and really shows the state of mind liberals are in when they think they should be taken care of.
Yep.
Gregory Horton says, floor gang.
I think that's a PewDiePie reference.
I don't know too much about it.
William says, care to donate to adopt a beanie foundation.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Hey Momo says, rip and tear until it's done.
I made a Tinder profile for the Slayer to entertain myself during lockdown.
adam crigler
Sweet!
Rip and tear.
Yes, I will certainly do that.
tim pool
We, uh, we didn't go too far over this time, but, uh, we're about ready to wrap up.
So if you haven't already, I did mention the like button, subscribe, notification bell.
Monday through Friday, 8 PM.
Uh, we do the show.
We do it, uh, we do it live.
We put up clips the next day and, uh, we'll probably have some specials, you know, uh, at some point weekend stuff, maybe Adam's deep dives.
We'll, we'll, we'll, we're, we're still figuring things out.
Lots of expansion underway.
I have been consistently looking for a building so we can bring on more people, do more shows, gaming, and a ton of other stuff, so we'll get there when we get there.
adam crigler
You know what we need to do is have a jam session at the end of one of our shows.
Maybe not every time.
Are we set up for music?
tim pool
Yes.
adam crigler
Like we can jam totally over there?
tim pool
Yeah, absolutely.
adam crigler
That's pretty sweet.
tim pool
We got the cameras good to go, the jam cam ready, we got the microphone, boom, ready.
adam crigler
That's pretty cool.
We should end the show with a song sometime.
tim pool
Well, we'll do that maybe tomorrow for Friday night.
unidentified
That'd be so fun.
adam crigler
Friday night.
tim pool
Get it set up.
One last super chat.
adam crigler
You said it, so now we have to do it.
tim pool
Yeah, for sure, dude.
Satz says, Rodney Mullen's still the best skater.
The best skateboarder right now?
Aurelien Girard.
adam crigler
Rodney Mullen may not have been the best skater ever or at any point.
Yeah, but he is always phenomenal and he create crafts.
tim pool
Yeah, I guess he totally was the best skateboarder.
adam crigler
For a while, yeah.
Rodney Mullen is pretty amazing, yeah, it's true.
tim pool
You could argue legacy-wise he's still the best in terms of his vision was beyond anyone else.
adam crigler
Okay, that's definitely true.
tim pool
There really was a period where he was inventing tricks on a regular basis and people were confused non-stop.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
So the thing about skateboarding is there is no best skateboarder in the sense that they all do different tricks.
adam crigler
OK.
tim pool
You know, so if there's definitely different styles.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Tony Hawk is a vert skater.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So he can he's he's probably at this point he's 52, I think.
I don't know.
So I don't know.
He's older than that.
adam crigler
He still slays.
tim pool
He's amazing.
adam crigler
Slays, man.
tim pool
But he's he's he's he's not a young man anymore.
Right.
So there are better vert skaters, but he's still really good.
I would say right now in terms of all around ability, the best skateboarder I've seen is Aurelien Giraud.
adam crigler
I still have yet to see any of his videos.
tim pool
He's insane watching this guy.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, dude.
It's like, I can't even believe the tricks he's doing are real.
This guy's, it's some of the craziest stuff I've ever seen.
Ever.
So, it's only gonna get crazier as time goes on.
unidentified
Agreed.
tim pool
But, uh, it depends on your definition of what the best skater is.
Anyway, I'll leave it there.
Thanks for hanging out.
Stick around.
We'll be back tomorrow at 8pm live.
adam crigler
Have a good night, everybody.
tim pool
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Don't forget to subscribe and share it with your friends, and we'll see you all tomorrow.
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