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May 11, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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TimcastIRL - Elon Musk DEFIES Government, Will Reopen Factory But Says ARREST ME BRO!
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adam crigler
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tim pool
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lydia smith
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unidentified
You You Obama gate
tim pool
Donald Trump tweeted Obamagate.
It is the biggest tweet in the world, the most replied, the most retweeted, the most quoted.
Obamagate, what does it mean?
adam crigler
Is that true?
The most?
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Out of all?
tim pool
Out of everything.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Everything.
It's big, huh?
It's Twitter right now.
Obamagate.
That's all he said.
Man, there's too much to talk about for Obamagate.
We're not talking about Obamagate.
I just had to say it because it is such a big... I don't know, he tweeted it and everyone was like, No, we're talking about Elon Musk and a bunch of other stuff.
adam crigler
Much better.
tim pool
Elon Musk said, arrest me, bro.
unidentified
Do it.
tim pool
What you gonna do?
No, he actually tweeted out... Watch, he gets arrested.
I don't think so.
That'd be nuts.
adam crigler
I mean, Texas arrested a salon... Or was it Texas or was it Florida?
It was Texas.
tim pool
Texas.
Salon owner.
adam crigler
Salon owner.
This is great.
I mean, it's California.
It wouldn't surprise me if he got arrested.
tim pool
So we actually have a very fun first hour.
So we got Elon Musk basically saying, I'm reopening my factory.
You can't do anything about it.
adam crigler
Come at it, bro.
tim pool
Yeah, come arrest me.
He was like, if anyone's gonna be arrested, arrest me.
And so he's getting ragged on by the left, and it's like a weird culture war thing.
But Elon Musk is actually in the right for a lot of reasons we'll talk about.
But this brings us to the next bit is that there's a bunch of prisoners caught on tape trying to catch COVID.
adam crigler
This is crazy.
unidentified
You know why?
adam crigler
Because they'll probably get out, right?
tim pool
Exactly.
So now they're like, hey, get me sick so I can go home.
unidentified
Let me get that get out of jail for COVID.
tim pool
But the salon owner, lock her up!
adam crigler
Well, I mean, they let her go.
tim pool
Well, because of the intervention.
adam crigler
I know.
tim pool
But, like, think about how insane it is.
adam crigler
I know.
tim pool
They're exploiting the system to escape the switch.
You know what, man?
All right.
Anyway, welcome to the show, everybody.
This is Tim Castellaro on podcast.
I am Tim Poole, and I'm hanging out with some peeps.
adam crigler
You know.
You know me.
It's Adam.
tim pool
You know me.
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It's Adam Krigler.
Hanging out.
What up?
tim pool
And there's another person here.
unidentified
It's me.
lydia smith
I'm Lydia.
Hello.
tim pool
Lydia's a human.
lydia smith
Yeah, I am.
adam crigler
It's true.
tim pool
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And a little Skyrim joke for y'all.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
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tim pool
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Oh!
lydia smith
You see that?
unidentified
First try.
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tim pool
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adam crigler
First try.
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tim pool
First try right away.
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First try?
lydia smith
Yeah, it's great.
tim pool
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adam crigler
Please do.
tim pool
On the Twitters.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
At AdamKrigler.
And then we actually use those stories.
So yeah, man, don't forget also hop into the super chat because we're going to be reading questions and comments and all that good stuff.
But do your best if you're going to super chat to try and put the specific context in it.
Because oftentimes people will be like, they'll say something like, man, I disagree with that.
That's crazy.
And we'll be like, What?
We don't know what you're referring to, so it really helps if you want to get to the specifics of the question, make it easier for us.
But we got a bunch of stories.
We might actually get to a few other stories.
Donald Trump giving a smackdown to the press is always fun.
But we got a story.
This kid, this 11-year-old kid, nailed the first ever... It was a fakie 1080, I'm pretty sure.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's sick.
tim pool
So there's an interesting debate here, though, because I did talk about this, you know, on my other channel, but it'll be interesting to talk with Adam about it.
11-year-old skateboarder breaks a record, landing the first ever 1080, and we've got another story about transgender athletes.
So there's a lot of questions that come up around puberty and testosterone, I think we can talk to.
But the first story, and what we gotta get to, Mr. Elon Musk. Elon Musk defies coronavirus order and asks
to be arrested. Kind of.
I know my title for the video, he said, arrest me bro, is much more exaggerated than what they said.
But he basically said if anyone's gonna be arrested, I just ask it's only me.
adam crigler
I mean, it's basically the same.
tim pool
That's pretty fair.
There's a lot going on here, man.
And it's funny because Elon Musk is getting dragged, but he's absolutely in the right on this one for so many reasons.
But let's read the story to get you the context.
The Verge writes Tesla is reopening its California car factory against Alameda County's wishes.
They say Musk spent parts of the weekend railing against the order, which was put in place in mid-March by Alameda County officials in order to mitigate the spread of COVID-19.
The order restricted all but essential businesses from performing anything other than the most minimal operations, like processing payroll.
After initially fighting the order, Tesla shut down the factory on March 23rd.
Musk has argued that the statewide stay-at-home order put in place by Governor Gavin Newsom left room for Tesla's auto manufacturing plant to remain open.
and Musk had Tesla file a lawsuit against the county on Saturday in protest.
On Monday, Newsom said that the state has had very constructive conversations with the county
officials and Tesla representatives, and that he hopes the company could open up as early as next
week. Alameda County Supervisor Scott Haggerty told the New York Times this past weekend that
the county and Tesla had been close to an agreement to reopen the factory on May 18th,
but that was before Musk lashed out and filed the lawsuit on Saturday.
Tesla started making cars over the weekend, as The Verge reported earlier on Monday.
So apparently, what, they've already broken the order, it sounds like.
And told all of the employees that it placed on furlough to get ready to get back to work.
Those employees have been told they can stay home if they feel uncomfortable, but have to take unpaid leave in order to do so.
Wow.
Other automakers.
Yeah, but it's a furlough.
Can't they just file and get the claim like everybody else does through the government or the Trump bucks or something?
adam crigler
Yeah, I guess.
tim pool
I think most people haven't even got it anyway, though.
adam crigler
I actually know somebody who used to work at Tesla, and I know for a fact that Elon works his employees pretty tough and hard anyway.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
So, it's like, that's kind of brutal.
Like, yeah, you can stay home if you're uncomfortable, but you're not going to get paid.
tim pool
But why would they get paid if they don't come to work?
Everyone's furloughed.
unidentified
True.
adam crigler
I mean, are they getting unemployment, though?
tim pool
That's up to them to file.
adam crigler
Is that what... I mean, furloughed means you're... Not getting paid.
Right, but you're not fired.
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
So, can you get unemployment if you're not fired?
Yes.
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Specifically, the CARES Act covers that.
adam crigler
Oh, cool, cool.
All right.
tim pool
So let's just pull up Mr. Musk's tweet here.
He said, Tesla is restarting production today against Alameda County rules.
I will be on the line with everyone else.
If anyone is arrested, I ask that it only be me.
adam crigler
So he's gonna be down on the line working the factory also.
Is that what he's saying?
Like, I'll be on the line too?
Am I right?
Okay.
Interesting.
tim pool
So the first reason why Elon Musk is in the right, and the most obvious one, Gavin Newsom said that the state was easing up and they were going to allow manufacturing plants to reopen.
So Elon Musk was like, all right, great, here we go, awesome.
And then Alameda County specifically intervened and was like, nope.
The mayor of Fremont, where the plant is, said yes.
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
Yup, so Alameda is seemingly interfering with arbitrary rules that, it's like, why?
adam crigler
Yeah, why?
What?
tim pool
Messing with Elon.
adam crigler
That's gotta be it.
tim pool
The other point, why Elon Musk is in the right.
He said, you don't have to come to work.
It's crazy because we're seeing all of these people on the left say things like, Elon Musk is a whiny baby putting his employees at risk.
It's like, the employees... Not at all.
Well, don't they as human beings have agency to decide whether to work or not?
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
It's like, you don't want to get sick, man, just stay home.
adam crigler
Yes, I said that.
You can stay home if you're uncomfortable.
tim pool
So are they like trying to insinuate he's a slave driver?
He's gonna snatch him up from their house and drop him in the factory and lock all the doors?
adam crigler
Work.
tim pool
Slave.
So you were saying you know somebody who's to work there, right?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Their argument against him, well, this woman, Lorena Gonzalez, who's like a really controversial Democrat in San Diego, said, F Elon Musk.
Like, just snapped.
Yeah, and Elon Musk responded, message received.
But she was claiming that he like, he's a bad boss.
He overworks people.
adam crigler
Well, I have heard that firsthand.
tim pool
That he overworks people?
adam crigler
But at the same time, well, he doesn't work for him anymore, but he still enjoyed working for Tesla.
It's not like he was... I mean, it was stressful, but he liked his job.
It was enjoyable for him.
So it wasn't like he left angrily, you know?
So, I don't know.
It doesn't make sense for someone to say F you.
tim pool
Yeah, I mean that's nuts.
adam crigler
Yeah, you can always quit, exactly.
I agree with that.
tim pool
The funny thing about that lady is that she's responsible for something called Assembly Bill 5, which resulted in like thousands of lefty journalists getting fired.
It was a crazy bill.
It was the gig economy bill that basically said if you're a writer you can only write like 35 pieces per year.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Yeah, because the unions were like, hire full-time employees or don't hire or don't contract because contracts undermine labor rights.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So she was like, you got it.
And then all of these lefty writers started like, at first, they were like, we did it, everybody.
We won union rights.
unidentified
Yay.
tim pool
And then the year that then December came around, and they got a notification from all of their companies saying, we're terminating your contracts.
unidentified
And they were like, But what now?
tim pool
The funny thing about that was Vox.com wrote an article saying a major win for progressives, this bill that this woman passed.
And then Vox ended up laying off thousands, severing the contracts of thousands of writers at January 1st.
And all these people, it's like, dude, you were cheering for this.
adam crigler
But it's not like people that actually worked at Vox, right?
It was more like the people that they did hired like per per article.
tim pool
Right. Yeah. But it's like you might have a contract with Vox where it says we want
you to write 20 articles per week.
OK. That's your job.
It's the reason you're a contractor is because same thing, though, as what I don't
adam crigler
know, as someone that would be hired to write an article like technically.
tim pool
So here's the issue.
The reason that they would contract you for a writing job is because you can do it anywhere at any time, so long as you deliver.
So basically put it this way.
If I was like, yo Adam, I need from you a little wooden boat.
I need five of those every week.
adam crigler
I'd start whittling.
tim pool
Just whittle, but you whittle when you feel like it.
You could whittle all in one day if you want.
Just as long as every Sunday you get me those five little boats, I'm gonna put them in my shop.
Why would I have to hire you as an employee of my company?
You run your own company.
You're a boatmaker.
You know what I mean?
adam crigler
Well, unless I am hired as your company.
Because if not, there's the other side.
You can hire an actual boatmaker.
You can contract someone who does really good whittling boats.
Or I can work here and work for you as part of your company.
tim pool
But I would be in the union and that Whittler wouldn't be in the union.
And then you couldn't sell any of your wood products to anyone else?
adam crigler
It's gonna be fun.
But I would be in the union and that whittler wouldn't be in the union.
Isn't that kind of the difference?
tim pool
And then you couldn't sell any of your wood products to anyone else.
adam crigler
My boats.
tim pool
No, no, no.
adam crigler
So the point is...
tim pool
The whittled boats that I make.
Let's say you have 10 clients.
Okay.
And you whittle five boats for each client every week.
And now because of that bill, they all terminate their contracts with you.
They shut your company down.
adam crigler
Wouldn't you be able to sell your boats wherever you want then?
tim pool
You'd think you'd be able to, but no, according to this bill, they can't contract you in this way.
Yeah, right, so this lady is responsible for terminating probably hundreds of thousands of jobs and destroying a bunch of companies and sole proprietorships.
And she got tore up!
So she has the nerve to come out against Elon Musk, because he's like, I want to reopen my factory, put people back to work, even though the governor agrees, the city agrees, and this one county is like, not Elon.
adam crigler
They're like, we don't like Elon, so we're just gonna keep his factory shut down.
tim pool
I'm gonna throw some shade at the COVID argument people, because I got this tweet here.
adam crigler
Hold on, let me get my umbrella.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Okay, I'm ready.
tim pool
Check it out.
lydia smith
Ready.
tim pool
So this dude, James Todaro, MD, says, update on COVID-19 at Smithfield Meat Plant in South Dakota.
It has now been almost one month since the first employee death and three weeks since the second death.
Out of nearly 1,000 confirmed infections, still only two deaths.
Infection fatality rate is 0.2%.
Comparable to the flu.
Hmm. A little bit worse.
But the reason I bring this up is there's two points we made.
The first, to be fair, look man, you could get sick.
Yeah, you don't want to get sick It's like the flu some people die.
It's a nasty flu.
It's 0.2% So it's it's it's arguably like, you know, 33 to 30 percent worse than the flu at this number But this plant in South Dakota has never locked down.
They're fine.
They're like what ranked the 30th in terms of hospitalizations for COVID.
But you had all the press being like, you must lock down, you must shut down your economy.
And the governor was like, no, we won't do it.
So now looking at this data, going back to Elon Musk's point, reopening the factory, it looks like for the most part, you might get sick, but that's about it.
adam crigler
Hey, if you're healthy, you could probably beat it.
tim pool
Most people who get it, it's like the flu.
Now, well, be careful because it is still serious.
It is novel, so a lot more people are still likely to get it.
But they only have a thousand confirmed infections.
That may actually be a lot, considering how many people work at the plant.
adam crigler
Confirmed infections, though.
So that's not counting the people that got it and don't know they got it.
Because there's a high chance of not having any symptoms at all, right?
Isn't that also something that's going on?
tim pool
Yeah, asymptomatic.
So the point I'm trying to make, everybody calm down because I know that the Google ban people are, they have fingers shaking over the button getting ready to just ban.
What I'm saying is it's serious.
It's, it's, there's a lot of overestimates.
We got to take it seriously.
We don't want to, we don't want anyone to die.
It's novel.
So it's worse than the flu in that regard.
More people are likely to get it, likely to get it.
It does have a higher infection rate.
I'm sorry, a higher mortality rate.
But, I'm just saying, it's not the apocalypse, not the end of the world, everyone can calm down.
You know, you don't have to worry, it's a .2 mortality rate.
Take the precautions you need to take, wear your mask, wear your protective gear.
Tesla has taken a ton of crazy precautions, and they have like a mandatory training thing for people to be more cautious when dealing with materials.
They've also moved things around to streamline the process in the factory.
So the point I'm trying to make is, Everybody was freaking out saying the world was gonna end.
We were worried it was gonna be a lot worse than it was.
It's not the worst case scenario for, you know, for a lot of places actually.
We've seen all these studies come out.
It could be bad.
It's not the 3% we thought it was gonna be.
It's not the 4% we thought it was gonna be.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So, look man, I don't see why people can't choose to go back to work if they want to.
That's just it.
Elon Musk is not forcing anybody.
You can stay furloughed if you want.
You can go back to work if you want.
They're taking precautions.
And I think people, for tribal reasons, are just trying to go after Elon.
And, you know, I want to go back to that point about the Lorena Gonzalez woman, and we'll drive a little bit on this.
I wanted to make sure we wrapped up the Elon thing a little bit, but I really want to talk about this lady who's attacking Elon Musk, because what she's proposed is one of the most insane things I've ever heard.
Basically, unions wanted to make sure that everybody was working at the company so that the union could pressure them to join the union.
Because in California, my understanding is, if you get hired to a company that's a union, you gotta join the union.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
I hate that.
adam crigler
And you have to pay union dues and all that.
tim pool
Imagine getting a law passed where you can force people to pay your organization.
That's messed up.
I hate it.
adam crigler
I don't want anything to do with your organization.
tim pool
If you want the job, you gotta do it.
That may not be true.
I don't know exactly if California has that law, but a lot of places do.
There's a lot of lawsuits popping up where people are suing saying, I shouldn't have to join your union to work here.
And so I think they're winning in some of these places.
adam crigler
Well, I mean, why would it be?
I know it's forcing anyone to do anything is the problem that you have with it, right?
But I always was going under the assumptions that unions were a good thing, right?
They protected your rights.
tim pool
Maybe 70, 80 years ago.
adam crigler
So you don't think we even need unions anymore?
tim pool
We need collective bargaining.
Unions are messed up.
Bad.
There are some good unions for sure, but what it's become is... I'm not gonna name some of these, because they're just like shakedown organizations that'll sue me if I say their names.
But they go to media companies, they convince activists to unionize, not because they need
improvements to their benefits or anything like that, but to force all the employees
to pay those union dues every month, and then the union can claim, we just added, you know,
300 new subscribers.
Imagine if you could snap your fingers and 300 people were giving you 50 bucks a month
or something.
Love that money.
adam crigler
Sounds pretty good.
tim pool
And what do they really do for you?
adam crigler
Let me try it.
tim pool
What do they really do for you?
adam crigler
It's not working.
tim pool
So what we need is legit unions.
And that's the challenge.
How do you weed out the corruption and the breakdown of the system?
So the initial concept of unions was really, really great.
You know, you had a bunch of really awful conditions and all the people got together and engaged in a collective bargaining, which is fantastic.
And I'm like, I'll put it this way.
I'm actually extremely pro-union, but my concern is that a lot of the big corporate unions are corrupt and they exploit companies and try and hurt them and things like that.
So you end up with people who don't know what they're doing, giving up their rights.
Let me tell you, man, I worked for a company, they forced me to join the union, and then I couldn't move at all within the company.
It was like all of my opportunity and all my rights were gone.
Because, and whenever I had a problem, I couldn't go to my boss.
I couldn't go to the supervisors and be like, yo, I got a problem.
They'd go, no, no, no, union rep, union rep, nope, get out, get out, get out, I can't talk to you, I can't talk to you about this.
adam crigler
That sucks.
tim pool
So then I'd have to go to a union rep, and then issue my grievance.
If I wanted a raise, go to a union rep, and then you know what the rep would say?
adam crigler
What?
unidentified
Seriously?
tim pool
I'm already getting your paycheck.
I don't care.
like, well, how do we do the negotiations, man?
They come end of the year.
Come on, bro.
I'm working.
adam crigler
So you can do it already getting your paycheck.
I don't care.
tim pool
They don't care.
adam crigler
That's what I hear here right now.
tim pool
So like the, the, the issue I take with it is that it got so big that instead of
actually defending the rights of people, it just defends the rights of the people
who line their pockets with gold.
We had people who would run for executive board.
They'd be making an extra $20,000 a year because the union basically pays them.
adam crigler
That sounds like the problem with most positions of power.
It's always the same thing.
Whoever gets to the power, they're like, oh, you know, this power's pretty good and my bank account's looking pretty fantastic.
I don't really care about my morals anymore.
My bank account.
Look at my bank account.
tim pool
They never cared.
adam crigler
Look at my bank account, though.
tim pool
It's like... Yeah.
adam crigler
That's not... That's important.
tim pool
Gotta take care of me on my own, they would say.
That's a thing.
That's why, like, for me, running these companies, we were talking about... I don't know if we talked about Cenk Uygur of the Young Turks.
adam crigler
Yeah, we did.
tim pool
And he's, like, union-busting.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That was hilarious.
Nah, nah.
You know what it is?
It's funny because he's supposed to be a progressive.
My attitude is this.
I'll give you honest advice.
I think the problem with unions, you know, but if you want to come to me and tell me your unionize, I'm going to be like, Hey man, you do your thing.
Like if you want to jump into a well head first, I don't care.
I'm not going to stop you, man.
I'm all about freedom and liberty.
So you do what you got to do.
And I just think it's detrimental to the individuals.
A lot of people don't get it.
They don't get it.
You're giving up so much to... It really depends.
It's the point, right?
It's like I was mentioning.
It's corrupt organizations that lock you down, take your money, and hold you back.
Especially at... You know, to be honest, especially at a company like the Young Turks.
They're not that big.
They're pretty big.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But I wouldn't, I wouldn't want to be involved.
adam crigler
What's pretty big, like 30, 50, you know, employees?
tim pool
No, I'm talking about thousands.
adam crigler
Oh, they have a thousand.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no.
Young Turks probably has a hundred or something like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
All right.
tim pool
So I'm saying, yeah, they're not very big.
So that's the kind of company where you can walk up to Cenk and be like, yo, here's what I need and here's what I want.
Union gets involved, you can never do that again.
I mean, you probably could, you know, because it's still not that big.
But I'll tell you what, man, I've worked at companies that have dealt with this stuff and it's like, you lose that freedom to shine.
They cut off the tall grass, it locks you down.
It basically straps everyone's ankles together, which can be a good thing for the people who can't swim.
So, look, think about it this way.
You got 100 people all in the ocean.
You got 20 of them who can't swim, 20 of them who can swim really, really well, and the rest are average.
You chain everyone together, and the really great swimmers are being held down by everyone else, and the really bad swimmers are being held up by everyone else.
I personally don't want someone chained to my leg.
adam crigler
That sounds horrible.
tim pool
That's how I view it.
That's my view of it.
But that's why I'm saying, like, if someone came to me and they were like, I think we want to do this, I'd be like, go for it.
I don't care.
adam crigler
Keep me out of it.
tim pool
Yeah.
I mean, that's why I run my company.
I don't... I'm not gonna... That's the thing, right?
When I worked for these companies, I was straight up like, nah, I don't want to be involved.
But anyway, going back to that Lorena Gonzalez woman, the most detrimental, devastating thing about what she ended up pushing with AB5, It's like, you have people who do writing for a bunch of different outlets, right?
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Someone might be like, I write about food for, you know, food.food, I write about news for news.news, and I write about sports for sports.sports.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
So you've got three clients that you work for.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Like, basically, it's like you're a fruit vendor, and every day you have a company who says, I will buy a satchel of, you know, oranges, and another guy buys apples, and another guy buys mangoes.
Because of this bill, they've basically said you can no longer deliver these products to your customers.
So like, what do you do?
Do you like form an LLC then?
And now you're officially a company providing deliverables?
They've basically just said, let's say you have three different websites you write for.
And a lot of people did, had multiple sites they were writing for.
They all got their contracts severed because of this lady.
So then, What's the point?
Now I have to beg one of those companies to hire me and my company gets shut down?
That's insane.
That's empowering the big corporations, empowering venture capital, empowering big, you know, corrupt unions.
adam crigler
It seems to be the way everything's moving, just Walmart's taking over everything.
Oh yeah, dude, I mean- Amazon.
tim pool
Talking about the lockdown and what Tesla's doing, we are seeing a bunch of small shops now defy the orders and like, F you basically.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Because a local, you know, like a local shoe store can't be open.
Walmart?
No problem.
Walmart sells shoes.
Yeah.
Gardening supplies?
Closed.
Walmart?
Open.
So there was like a weird loophole where it's like, if you sell booze, you can stay open.
So you're like, if you're a gardening shop, make sure you get a liquor license and sell a small case of beer.
That way you can't get shut down ever again.
It doesn't make sense.
But the bigger issue is that big box stores, major corporations were basically immune.
So all these lockdowns did was empower massive conglomerates.
adam crigler
Yeah, I'm sure they made a killing, man.
tim pool
Well, they're losing a lot of money, but it's like, They're not sinking.
adam crigler
Every single time I went into any store over the past two months, it was like Sam's Club or Walmart.
I mean, those are the few places that were open.
Mad people, full carts.
Every single person I saw was just packed, a packed cart.
tim pool
Well, because you can't go anywhere else anymore.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
So it used to be like, yeah, I'll go to Walmart, pick up some paper towels, bread, milk, and eggs, right?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Now I'm going to go there and get shoes, a new TV, a controller for my PlayStation.
So GameStop's out.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
They're already struggling.
adam crigler
I mean, I don't believe GameStop was actually still around anyway.
tim pool
Yeah, because we just order stuff.
We're a Best Buy.
adam crigler
I just download my games.
tim pool
But it's the small businesses.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, the people who did specialty jobs.
That's what we're seeing.
It's the weirdest thing to see this like a tribal issue where it's like we want to destroy small business and we want everyone to work for someone else.
That's the craziest thing.
adam crigler
Yeah, I don't get that.
tim pool
If you run your own company, you're fine.
Well, let's get over to the next bit where it gets even crazier.
Talking about the lockdown orders and all that stuff, we have this tweet.
From Bill Malugan, the LA County Sheriff says video surveillance shows inmates at a jail in Castaic sharing a water bottle, then rubbing the same mask on their faces to purposefully infect themselves with COVID-19 because they thought it would force their release.
21 ended up infected.
Well, they got what they wanted.
Now, could you imagine if they actually arrested Elon Musk?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
They're not gonna do it.
adam crigler
But you know they're out there thinking like, oh, yes!
tim pool
Some people want to.
It's a chance.
Well, there was one person that tweeted like... I bet.
adam crigler
I'm serious.
tim pool
There was one person that tweeted like, I agree.
Arrest Elon Musk.
It's like a weird tribal thing.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah.
They're not going to, but they did arrest that salon owner in Dallas.
adam crigler
Yeah, and then they forced them to let her go.
tim pool
Intervention from conservatives got her out.
You know, people, she made like 500 grand on a GoFundMe or something.
adam crigler
Good for her.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Great.
Great.
So at the same time, she was a boss.
adam crigler
I got to just say, she was a boss to that judge.
tim pool
But think about how insane this is.
Dallas released like a thousand county jail inmates.
adam crigler
Insane.
Because it was Dallas that she got arrested?
tim pool
Yup, same.
So we talked about this before.
adam crigler
What is going on?
tim pool
The last time we talked about this, I was like, I don't think it's the same jurisdiction, let's be fair.
No, it was.
It was.
Dallas released like a thousand jail inmates and then put her in.
adam crigler
That is embarrassing.
tim pool
That's insanity!
adam crigler
Yeah, all right.
That's probably a better word.
tim pool
Now look what they're doing!
They're purposefully trying to get COVID because they know they're gonna get let go.
Check out this story.
California sheriff says inmates tried to infect themselves with coronavirus.
Two groups of inmates at a Los Angeles County jail.
This is a different story, right?
No, no, this is LA.
Okay, I think this is LA, right?
Same story?
I think so.
so. They tried to infect themselves by sharing water and a mask. Okay. And within two weeks,
30 prisoners tested positive. Sheriff Alex Villanueva at a briefing showed surveillance
videos from two dormitory units at the North County Correctional Facility in Castaic. Yeah,
okay. It's the same place. The footage captured inmates in one unit sharing a container of
hot water and others in a second unit sniffing a mask. So gross.
Let me sniff that mask, bro.
adam crigler
Hey man, you got mask?
I got mask.
COVID positive.
tim pool
I'd like to go home.
unidentified
Look it up.
tim pool
Let me sniff that mask.
adam crigler
Yeah, my goodness.
tim pool
The footage captures inmates in one unit sharing a container over there.
The sheriff said the inmates used hot water to try to raise their temperatures just before a nurse checked them.
An elevated temperature is a symptom for coronavirus.
Villanueva said the inmates mistakenly believed that if they were infected, they would be freed.
It's dismaying and it's disheartening.
None of the 30 inmates required critical care when they were sick, though some had moderate symptoms, said Bruce Chase, the department's assistant sheriff of custody operations.
No prisoners within the county's jail system, the largest in the country, have died from the virus.
Jails and prisons nationwide have become flashpoints.
More than 25,000 inmates have been infected, and about 350 have died nationwide, from Rikers Island in New York to federal, state, and local lockups coast-to-coast, according to an unofficial tally kept by the COVID-19 Behind Bars data project run by UCLA Law.
In California, five inmates in a state prison in San Bernardino have died from COVID complications and outbreaks.
So we got this.
They say in LA County, in mid-April, the North County Correctional Facility didn't have a single case.
Days later, nine inmates were flagged as being potentially sick.
I don't know if California has actually ended up releasing anybody.
So, I'll wrap this one up.
They say for most people the coronavirus cases are mild or moderate.
We know this.
Fever, cough, yadda yadda.
For some, it's all there.
Okay, we get it.
So the inmates think they're gonna get released.
adam crigler
Yeah, because... This is California.
They're not letting you go.
tim pool
Yeah, not in California, I guess.
adam crigler
It's not Texas.
Or New York, right?
tim pool
Why would Texas let people go?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
You'd think Texas is the place where they're like, son!
You got COVID, so we're giving you the chair.
The last, the last, yeah.
Just line them up.
adam crigler
Pull the lever.
tim pool
Crank them in, crank them out.
Do they still hang people?
adam crigler
Everybody hold hands.
tim pool
Do they still hang people in Texas?
lydia smith
Maybe in Texas?
adam crigler
I don't know.
I don't think so.
What?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
But they definitely have a death penalty there.
lydia smith
Yeah, Texas?
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
They haven't hung people for years.
lydia smith
I thought there was a state that just got rid of it.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that there was a state that still hanged people.
adam crigler
What?
No.
tim pool
I swear.
adam crigler
Can you look it up?
lydia smith
I'm looking it up right now.
tim pool
I was kidding about Texas.
We love Texas.
But Texas you'd think would be substantially more brutal in terms of keeping people locked up, not letting them go, and then arresting a salon owner.
That's nuts.
adam crigler
Yeah, that doesn't make sense.
tim pool
But it gets better.
It gets better.
adam crigler
Well, we gotta set examples for those salon owners that think they can open up.
tim pool
How dare they?
adam crigler
We gotta set that example, man.
tim pool
Or you also add in Texas.
I mean, you do have some hardcore people.
Those dudes showing up with rifles at the bar.
Big Daddy Zanes or whatever.
adam crigler
Big Daddy Zanes, right.
tim pool
And then the police send out that big bearcat or whatever it's called.
Things are getting spicy, man.
This is nuts.
What are they doing?
Check out this story, though.
Prisoner released from facilities to limit COVID-19 spread, arrested again for crimes.
Now, this is Everett, Washington.
adam crigler
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
They say, uh, Kami Borg is a business owner in Everett, and she knew this was inevitable.
It puts everybody at risk.
He could have broken into our store.
Instead, police say Matthew Crewson raged on a Thai restaurant across the street on Broadway, amped up on methamphetamines, using a crowbar to smash the wooden boards.
I'm sure glad they released this man from jail.
adam crigler
Oh, me too!
tim pool
Well, let me ask you something.
Listen.
We do have an ethical conundrum here.
What are the moral constraints of a society when it comes to locking someone up where they could potentially be infected with a deadly disease?
Is that ethical?
Is that moral?
Is that constitutional?
It might border on cruel and unusual punishment.
Telling someone straight up, I know that you mugged that old woman and you're getting a year in jail.
Also, there's a viral contagion with a moderate mortality rate according to recent estimates that could mess you up.
Do we as a society have a right to put someone in the position?
That's a tough question, man.
I don't know.
That's why I understand and lean towards letting people out.
But they gotta do better vetting.
Like this guy?
What's the first thing he does?
He takes a bunch of meth and then goes and smashes windows with a crowbar or something?
How many times have we read stories like this?
This is like, what, the fourth or fifth?
adam crigler
All I can think of is the birdshot, buckshot, birdshot, buckshot.
tim pool
Oh, Dave Chappelle.
unidentified
He's on math, oh no!
tim pool
He gets up, he's unfazed.
That was awesome.
But think about all this that's happening, and now it's like, okay, we're gonna arrest Elon, we're gonna release criminals, we're gonna let everybody go.
I think this is a major catalyst for the Boogaloo, man.
adam crigler
I think so, too.
tim pool
The Boogaloo.
It's funny, Vice wrote about the Boogaloo Boys.
unidentified
The Boogaloo Boys.
tim pool
The Boogaloo movement.
It's like, calm down, Vice.
You're looking for everything everywhere.
I do think we're dangerously close to a civil war.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
I don't, I don't know what that means.
Right.
I could just be a little excited.
I've been saying this for a while now, but I haven't been wrong.
adam crigler
A little fear mongering?
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no.
adam crigler
That's so unlike you.
tim pool
Fear mongering would be me lying and trying to claim something so that I could drum up clicks or something.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Me telling you my legit opinion on what's been going on over the past several years and where we at today.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
That's not fear mongering.
adam crigler
Sure.
All right.
tim pool
Some people will say it is for sure, criticize me, but I'm being completely legit when I'm asking these questions.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Because listen, a bunch of dudes showed up to a grocery store.
They're wearing masks.
They have body armor.
They have rifles.
Totally legal.
Totally legal.
Then you had a bunch of people show up to this bar that was defying the governor's orders, and then a bearcat comes out.
Technically still totally legal.
adam crigler
Right.
They weren't inside the store, right?
tim pool
It's not even that.
The governor doesn't have the right to decree that you can't do these things.
Now when it comes to business licenses, there's an argument there.
But we're still getting dangerously close.
Then you look at prisons letting people out.
Judges, telling the woman, you have to apologize to me.
Apologize now or else.
adam crigler
That's ridiculous.
And she was like, nope.
But I'm not even... I applaud that woman, by the way.
lydia smith
Yeah, seriously.
adam crigler
Man, when I heard her say that, I was like, oh yes!
tim pool
But here's the important bit.
It's the Supreme Court of Texas.
overturned it, meaning we were always on the side of the law when we said she should not submit and apologize.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And the Supreme Court overruled the lower court.
So we and everybody who said this woman was doing the right thing was correct.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
The scary thing is you get banned from social media because, you know, they don't care.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You can't you can't say these things.
But I'll tell you what right now.
We're not we won't get super political, but I got I'm good.
I'm going to I'm going to throw it Obamagate into the mix on this one.
adam crigler
Oh man, Obamagate.
tim pool
Obamagate.
adam crigler
You heard him say it.
tim pool
We'll bring it back to the on-the-ground stuff and the Boogaloo stuff.
Listen man, right now you've got Donald Trump tweeting at Obamagate the implication that Obama directed or was involved in false charges brought against Trump and his administration to sabotage his administration as he was coming into power.
adam crigler
It seems like it.
tim pool
But it's beyond that.
There's a lot of insinuations about You know, was the previous administration involved in trying to sabotage the campaign of Trump to help Hillary win?
Beyond that, why do we go through years of this conspiracy theory stuff?
We don't need to get too much into that because I want to keep it to the on-the-ground stuff.
But this is where it brings us today.
You've got, right now, documents being released from the Attorney General and classified documents.
And conservatives are pretty much on board with, it looks like there's something dirty here from the Obama administration, for sure.
At the very least, Obama knew, and we don't know how he knew this stuff was going on, and it's crazy.
The FBI went after Michael Flynn's kid.
They had no justification for investigating him in the first place.
They took one casual statement he made and claimed it was a lie during an investigation and used that to prosecute him.
So all of this is overturned.
You have two factions right now.
You have the left that believes Donald Trump is subverting the rule of law, and that he's a mobster, getting all his buddies off the hook for crimes they committed.
Then you have another faction that believes the Obama administration and the FBI were falsely laying charges to sabotage Trump's administration, and now finally Trump is on the counter-offensive, weeding out the corrupt.
It doesn't matter what you think is right, the fact is they exist.
So what happens when Trump gets reelected or what happens when this goes, when stuff like this starts happening?
So to bring it back to the on the ground stuff, you have in the debate about whether or not to reopen or stay closed, tribalism.
The left doesn't care about the science.
They don't care about the facts.
They don't care about the studies.
They don't care about the UN.
They don't care about the starvation.
They're saying shut up and shut down, period.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
That's scary.
adam crigler
It's true.
It is.
It's spreading people into two factions, like open up or not to open up.
tim pool
I think the objective reality is that we can see real wrongdoing on the part of these FBI agents.
adam crigler
Yep, definitely.
tim pool
Obama knew.
We'll see how far that goes.
I know a lot of people who have done a lot of research in this will make more definitive claims about the Obama administration.
But it stands to reason that right now the evidence shows the right is, it's like correct leans in their direction.
Especially when you look at what's going on with the lockdown, it's where things get crazy.
First of all, governors don't have the right to decree that you can't protest.
Bill de Blasio has no right to decree that you can't protest.
So the left is already in the wrong on this one.
adam crigler
Absolutely.
tim pool
UN says starvation is coming.
We gotta reopen.
What does the left say?
People want haircuts.
Just not true.
That's not what people are protesting for.
Some people for sure, but to highlight the one person out of the, you know, hundreds of thousands.
adam crigler
Yeah, it makes no sense.
tim pool
We're seeing surfers in California and Hawaii be like, no way, dude.
Like, insane lies from people that the virus is vaporized in the ocean shore and it'll get you sick if you go near it.
Like, that's nuts.
adam crigler
Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
tim pool
But then they come out and they argue that the right is anti-science and Elon Musk is anti-science.
They arbitrarily say Elon Musk can't reopen.
adam crigler
Wait, the right says that?
tim pool
The left.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
adam crigler
So the right.
tim pool
Did I say the right?
adam crigler
Yeah.
I was like, what?
tim pool
The left is arguing that you can't reopen or whatever.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's stupid.
tim pool
So if you look at what's actually going on with the data, we have four or five studies now saying the mortality rate is very, very, very low.
And there are substantially more people who have had this.
We've had local doctors come out, get their videos deleted from YouTube for calling this out.
The UN says if we don't reopen, 130 million will starve.
I think, at the very least, we can say, we get it.
It's serious.
People are going to lose their lives.
More people are going to lose their lives because the economy is collapsing.
We've got to get things going again so people can get food.
They don't care.
adam crigler
Yeah, people can go out, just wear masks, wash your hands, social distance.
We can do this.
People aren't idiots.
We can make it happen.
tim pool
Well, it reminds me of that Men in Black comment, right?
A person is smart.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
People are dumb, panicky, you know.
lydia smith
Dangerous animals.
tim pool
Dangerous animals.
Is that was the quote?
lydia smith
Yeah, I love that quote.
tim pool
Yeah, it's a good quote.
But an individual who doesn't want to get sick.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Right.
If you want to go to Walmart, you see someone not wearing a mask, you avoid them.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
You walk away.
You wear gloves.
You sanitize your hands.
Don't touch your face.
There are ways you could protect yourself, but we also know the data has shown going outside is actually better.
66% of people who have gotten sick were staying home.
I think this was in New York, showing that the people who are going out consistently were less likely to get sick.
So the lockdown may have failed.
Something happened?
adam crigler
Yeah, I don't know what that was.
lydia smith
Who's guessed?
tim pool
The lockdown may have been substantially, may have hurt us more so.
So we have all this data.
Now it's time to reassess.
What do we get?
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Tribalism saying no.
So I just think about what happens come November.
Vegas odds have Trump to win.
The polls had Biden to win, but they're dropping.
This is crazy.
There was a really funny tweet I saw where a bunch of Bernie supporters were laughing when the polls came that Trump was now beating Biden in a bunch of key states.
So it's like, what happens when you have all of this, all of these people who arbitrarily want the lockdowns to continue, jokingly saying, fine, go and arrest Elon Musk, attacking Elon Musk, even though he's completely in the right, and then Trump wins again.
Do these people just say like, well, gosh darn it, we lost.
I guess we'll just carry on with our lives.
adam crigler
I don't know.
It feels like they're becoming a minority.
Like, I don't know anybody like that anymore.
And all my friends who used to like Bernie don't really follow Bernie anymore.
They're becoming more, I say conservative, but they're not conservative, but they sure don't associate with Democrats anymore.
The left side.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
And that's everybody I know.
tim pool
Maybe, maybe then what we're really seeing is like the last remnants of the democratic establishment collapsing.
adam crigler
See, that makes more sense to me.
I don't, I don't think it's going to be a boogaloo.
It's going to be people are like, oh wait, we all feel the same way.
All right.
All right, good.
Well, the, the few that have, that thought they had a huge voice and a huge backing, they're like, suddenly there's no one behind them and they're just standing by themselves.
It's the internet.
tim pool
You know, yes.
But I think maybe one of the ways to look at it is Trump defeated the Republican establishment, crushed them.
They're gone.
They've either fallen in line with Trump or they've retired and they're gone.
adam crigler
They did it to themselves more.
tim pool
What do you mean?
adam crigler
The Democrats?
tim pool
No, the Republicans.
Trump defeated the Republican establishment.
adam crigler
Oh, OK.
tim pool
Yeah, in 2015, 2016, when he won.
Right, right, right.
You shut him out.
And then you had the never-Trumper Republicans go, oh, harumph!
Oh, no, we'll resist!
And then they joined the Democrats.
But now you have that last vestige of the establishment collapsing.
You've got the leftist populists mocking them and laughing as they wither.
And the same thing from the right-wing populists.
Like, the elite establishment is gone.
adam crigler
It's true.
tim pool
So maybe, yeah, that's a good point now that I think about it.
Maybe there won't be a Boogaloo, because what we're really seeing is the vocal, the last remnants of a vocal minority shrinking into nothingness.
adam crigler
Yep, that's what I see.
For the record, he agreed with me.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's kind of an interesting take.
adam crigler
Everyone loves calling out the other way, but see, there are some times you're in agreement.
tim pool
Maybe there will be no Boogaloo.
adam crigler
I don't think there's gonna be a Boogaloo.
It is fun to say, though.
tim pool
It's from an 80s movie!
How did it become the word for Civil War?
adam crigler
It sounds like a really cool cat's name.
Oh, that's Boogaloo.
He's cool.
tim pool
That is a good name for a cat.
lydia smith
Yeah, I like that.
tim pool
Boogaloo.
adam crigler
You're welcome.
tim pool
Yeah, Trump wants to reopen.
Barr is going to the states for the lockdowns.
I don't think people come November are going to blame Trump for this when it's the Democratic governors who are insisting we stay shut down and people are complaining.
adam crigler
And the Republican governors are the opposite.
Like, yeah, let's keep open.
Let's open everything.
tim pool
It's such a weird world, man.
adam crigler
It's weird, yeah.
tim pool
Like we mentioned several times, Gallup polls showing Republicans in Congress have higher favorability now for the first time in like 20 or 30 years.
adam crigler
That's crazy.
tim pool
I try telling people, you know, it's like, they want to accuse me of being biased and I'm like, I think you just don't see what's really going on.
Give it time, give it time.
adam crigler
Give it time, yeah.
tim pool
When I said all the things I said two years ago, right?
What happens two years later?
Gallup poll comes out saying Republicans have a higher favorability.
Why?
It's not because I'm making things up or lying to protect the right.
It's that the right was correct about what they were doing and the American people responded positively to it.
And so then I was like, see?
I wasn't wrong.
Donald Trump's approval rating is higher than it's ever been on average.
It's gone down a bit from its highest point but it's still higher than it's been on average.
His favorability is up.
adam crigler
New York Times says... My opinion of him is certainly raised up higher.
tim pool
You know what it is?
I gotta tell you, man, the more they lie, the more they get caught lying, the more anger I have for everything the media, the Democrats, the cronies have done.
And I can feel it.
You know, when you go to that voting booth and you want to just stick it to the man by slamming down that Donald Trump lever.
Yeah.
Dude, Chuck Todd.
He's MSNBC, right?
Meet the Press?
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
He put out a clip.
out of context and got called out immediately for it.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
They used to think they could get away with this.
They played a clip of Bill Barr, the Attorney General, making it seem like he was gloating,
like, ha ha, we're the winners, so we can do whatever we want.
Basically, he was asked about dropping the charges against Michael Flynn, and he said,
well, you know, history is written by the winners.
But he said, I think history will shine favorably, showing us we followed the rule of law.
They cut the last part out, so it's him laughing, going like, history is written by the winners,
like, making it seem like, they used to do this stuff.
adam crigler
What, and no one was for it?
They were like this is BS Yeah, and they had to apologize shut your mouth.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
That's how bad it was good like everyone called him out I called him out.
adam crigler
I love it Yeah.
lydia smith
I think it was really stark because Chuck Todd went on to say, well, he didn't say anything about following the rule of law or having any kind of compassion.
And then somebody showed the full clip and it was like, yeah, that's exactly what he said next.
tim pool
Exactly what he said.
adam crigler
And you freaking knew it.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
So here's what I see, man.
I see these pundits on Twitter and they put out their like, it just insults all day.
It's like you'll see a comment from a Trump personality or from the president, and they'll say, he's stupid, he's ridiculous, he's a criminal, he's crook, he's corrupt.
I'm like, these aren't ideas.
It's just so annoying.
adam crigler
You're just saying your opinion, and that's news?
tim pool
But the lies, man, the media lies.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Makes me angrier and angrier.
And boy, do I not not want them to get away with all of the deception and the deceit and the lies.
And it's really frustrating, too, man, when I see my friends go on like Instagram and post stuff about how, you know, we must remain locked down.
Like, people are so dumb they want to save the economy.
How dumb are they?
They just want to make rich people get richer.
adam crigler
And I'm like... It's like, no, that's happening already.
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
It's like, what?
It's the small businesses that are going under now.
tim pool
Exactly.
adam crigler
And the supply chain, right.
tim pool
How do you talk to these people, man?
adam crigler
I don't know.
They have a set mindset, and it's like they're getting triggered in any other sense, and they just go emotional, so all the logic goes out the window.
You can't talk to people like that.
tim pool
So I have friends posting on Instagram and Facebook and stuff where they're like, these heartless conservatives want people to get sick and die like Elon Musk, and I'm like... Oh my gosh.
What do I say over Facebook to this person I've known for years?
To let them know... I sent a message to a friend of mine.
It was like a high-profile individual.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Who was saying like, no to reopening the economy.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And I was like, the UN says 130 million people will starve.
Should we just let those people die?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
No response.
Just ignore it.
adam crigler
Yeah, because it goes against what they believe.
So they're triggered and get emotional and can't... You're just an enemy to them now.
tim pool
Is it possible that what's happening?
You know, so I've always been, like both of us, well all three of us, we're like calm, rational, logical people.
And so we're driven away from these hyperbolic, emotional, like pointless reactions.
adam crigler
Agreed, yeah, I definitely am.
tim pool
So is the right becoming a more calm and logical place?
Still with its emotional reactions, for sure.
And is the left becoming a haven for the people who just react emotionally?
adam crigler
I can't speak for the right, because I feel like I'm still in the center, and that's where I... I mean, because I agree with both sides and I disagree with both sides, so... I think far left are crazy people that I don't associate with at all.
tim pool
But here's what I mean.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
You are moderate.
Probably left.
Well, actually, you took the compass test.
You're a liberal.
adam crigler
I am on the left.
And so here you are talking about close to center, though.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
That's normal.
That's where liberals have usually been.
So what I kind of think might be happening is when someone like you or me sees a conservative or liberal on Twitter and the liberal is yelling re and the conservative is saying, I humbly disagree.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Which one?
adam crigler
And here are my reasons.
tim pool
Right.
unidentified
Right.
lydia smith
Exactly.
adam crigler
I mean, when you put it that way, that's absolutely the person I would side with.
tim pool
So then my question is, over time, will we end up seeing the right, I'm doing air quotes just to whatever the right is, be a bunch of people calmly sipping their tea and saying, well, dare I say, good sir, my question about the economy has to do, and then, you know, Peter Jordan's saying, well, let me tell you about what I think, and then Joe Rogan's like, that's crazy, I never thought about that.
And on the left, it's riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii To be less silly.
adam crigler
That was a very good read, by the way.
tim pool
I had to try and tone it down because I didn't want to scream.
adam crigler
I know, it was good though.
tim pool
I guess the point I'm trying to make is, if people who have emotional reactions and don't care to do research are manipulated into believing all this fake stuff, then the left will just be people who are all waving their arms and going, While the people on the right are going to include moderates, liberals, conservatives, libertarians, all being the right and having a wide range of views, but having a conversation about it.
adam crigler
That's kind of what I was saying earlier, where it feels like those people on the left that are reeing are just slowly fading away because they're becoming more and more in a spotlight, for one.
That girl who screams no when Trump won, she's now a forever mean of just... And who wants to be that?
Who wants to be that person?
Everyone's like, wow, that person's ridiculous.
Look how emotional that person is.
And it's like, yeah.
Or you could, you know, get political and try to make a difference instead of just standing there screaming no, doing absolutely nothing.
tim pool
The re-thing is, I'm exaggerating a bit, right?
To be fair, I'll put it this way.
I have a friend with hundreds of thousands of followers who makes a post saying, we can't reopen the economy.
All it will do is make the billionaires wealthier and I'll sacrifice the poor people.
And so there's no logic there.
There's no real understanding of how the economy works.
Complete disregard for the science and the economics of it.
adam crigler
And we're not backing it up, I'm assuming.
tim pool
No, just saying.
adam crigler
Just saying.
tim pool
Just saying the government should just give us money and waive rent.
That's what they said to me.
And so when I respond with, How will these companies pay their employees if you don't pay their rent?
Like, the landlord isn't some guy, like, in a castle with a crown.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
It's a dude in an office who's like, I've got a bunch of properties, I gotta pay, you know, here's my mortgage, here's my interest, here's my bills, here's my groundskeeper, here's my staff, here's my electrician, here's my repairman, here's my, you know, the delivery guy.
How will all those people get paid if you say you shouldn't pay rent?
Well, the government should pay it, okay?
Where does the government get the money?
They just print it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Okay.
So my question is like, your reaction has no basis in reality.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
You've done no research.
You've read no news stories.
You have reckless disregard for those who have starved to death.
Is that what the left has become?
adam crigler
Letting people starve to death is basically like letting the poor die.
And that was their argument to keep it closed, wasn't it?
tim pool
Exactly.
The small businesses are collapsing.
adam crigler
Wait, what?
tim pool
The small businesses are collapsing, not the corporate enterprise.
The billionaires are making money.
adam crigler
They're simultaneously- The billionaires are fine right now.
They're not worried.
tim pool
That Robert Reich guy or whatever his name is.
Is that his name?
Robert Reich or something?
lydia smith
Robert Reich?
I haven't- I'm not familiar.
Sorry.
tim pool
Elon Musk tweeted that he was boring and stupid or something.
He tweets out like, billionaires added $200 billion to their wealth during the lockdown while poor people are suffering.
He's like, the poor people are suffering because you've shut their businesses down.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
You don't understand.
adam crigler
And they lost all their jobs, even if they weren't their own business.
Now they have no jobs.
Their strenuous life, the line that they were riding, now it's all crumbled away.
tim pool
So how do you talk to them?
What do we do?
You know what, man?
It's crazy because I've always been really good at communications, like I did fundraising for non-profits.
Literally communicating with the public to convince them, and I'm at a loss for how we deal with these people.
It's like, how do you deal with someone who says, I believe in science, and then when you go, here's a study saying people are dying and starving to death and the mortality rate is low, and they go, no!
And they throw it in the garbage.
lydia smith
They don't want that study.
adam crigler
Yep, that challenges my belief system, so I'm not gonna listen to that or believe it.
That's what they do.
They're like, nope, I'm good.
I don't have to agree with you or argue with you because you challenged what I believe.
tim pool
That's scary.
adam crigler
So I'm just gonna go the other way and ignore you forever.
Block.
tim pool
It's like, you know the crazy thing about it is, when I was growing up, it was the religious people who behaved more that way.
Like, I'm right, I don't care, this is what's true, and now it's all of a sudden you have like... I was talking to people about this, you know, notably Ben Shapiro's philosophy, because he's very religious, he's an orthodox Jew, but he's a libertarian.
So it's like, his idea is kind of like, I'll mind my own business and practice my religion how I want to.
adam crigler
I like that.
tim pool
But now it's the flippening.
It's probably why the conservatives have a higher approval rating in Congress.
Something switched.
You know what I was thinking?
Maybe it might be that it works this way with trends, too, and cultures.
So you have the left of like 10 years ago.
You got Jon Stewart.
Funny guy.
Honest guy.
adam crigler
Great guy.
tim pool
He called out Joe Biden, the audacity of grope, uncritically showing Project Veritas, like legitimately showing Project Veritas and praising the work they did.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Even though Veritas, you know, is, you know, right-leaning or whatever people want to accuse them of.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Today it's all like attacks and smears.
But here's what I think happens.
You have someone like Jon Stewart and you have a left that actually has thought leaders, comedians, funny people.
And so all the cool kids are involved.
adam crigler
I miss those days.
tim pool
So the left was cool, you know?
Jon Stewart was leading the charge in a comedic way to deliver the news to people.
adam crigler
Yeah, he was great.
tim pool
It was clever, too, because people didn't care about the news.
And he found a way to get people to care, and it was funny, and it was cultural.
What do we get after Jon Stewart?
Samantha Bee, John Oliver, Trevor Noah.
That's just fake.
It's them lying and making stuff up.
Jon Stewart was legit.
So here's what I think happens.
The cool people You know, the skateboarders, for instance, were on the left because the left was being rational and honest.
When the left stopped being rational and honest and started attacking the thought leaders, and the thought leaders started leaving, we lost George Carlin, you know, 12 years ago.
That was a huge, you know, hit for what the sane left was.
Jon Stewart retires.
Now the cool people are watching the re-people shrieking and cancel culture, and so they're more attracted to the right, which is fun and memes.
Leaving all of the... Like a leaderless movement, essentially.
The left has become emotional, reactive, and leaderless.
Look at Joe Rogan, for instance.
He says he'd rather vote for... He wanted to vote for Bernie.
Then he says he'd rather vote for Trump.
But they call him alt-right and all this other weird stuff.
adam crigler
Of course.
So it's like if Joe Rogan, who is a lefty, pot smoking... You say they, but that group feels so small now.
There's just a small group of people.
That's what it feels like to me.
Like they're just screaming and they have a platform to scream on, which is Twitter and mainstream media even.
You know, it's like they're all over there.
tim pool
But the social media companies protect them.
Ban everyone else.
I know because it's not gonna last very long because they were always default Yeah, like Jon Stewart was cool and valuable HBO all these things and so the big companies are late to the party They don't realize they're that you know, the ad dollars are propping up things people don't like.
Yeah, you know, hey, maybe we're crazy Maybe we're gonna crumble eventually though.
Maybe people like being in ignorant bliss.
adam crigler
Maybe we're the minorities I think that's the real boogaloo that's going to happen.
It's going to be a battle between those two forces, but they're going to be smushed.
The majority, as far as what I believe, is people in the middle and on the right looking at the left like, wow, they're really crazy now.
tim pool
This is why they hate YouTube.
On YouTube, when they put up one of these stupid social justice commercials, obliterated.
They disable the comments, they disable the like and dislike ratio.
adam crigler
I love that!
That's hilarious!
And then eventually just delete the video.
tim pool
But think about what Reddit does.
Reddit starts banning.
The moderators will ban a conservative post or a moderate post.
And so then what ends up happening is, Reddit, so this is the way I was explaining it earlier, if you have a hundred, you know, people, fifty conservative, fifty liberal, that means there's a good civil war between ideas.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
It's like, I might say like, I like oatmeal cookies, no chocolate chip is better!
And someone says snickerdoodle!
And you have a, sometimes you'll see a snickerdoodle post, or a chocolate chip post, or an oatmeal cookie post.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
But then Reddit says, we don't like oatmeal cookies because sometimes raisins are in them, so we're gonna ban anyone who posts oatmeal cookies.
adam crigler
That's a shame, I love oatmeal cookies.
tim pool
All of a sudden, the oatmeal cookie people start leaving, because they're like, we don't get to hear about oatmeal cookies anymore.
And then all of a sudden, chocolate chip just starts skyrocketing, and now there's no way to ever get a post upvoted that's about oatmeal cookies, because they started removing posts.
So Reddit becomes hyper-polarized, and people get washed into that insanity.
adam crigler
Oatmealgate.
tim pool
So anyway, the point is, you say like, they might get crushed, they might be small, but the institutions are propping them up.
Like, no one in their right mind, no sane, reasonable person thinks Joe Biden can be president.
adam crigler
But they're losing their power.
Like, Reddit is losing their power.
Are they?
tim pool
I mean, kind of.
adam crigler
I think it is.
I think so.
tim pool
Their ranking has been dropping a little bit.
adam crigler
That doesn't surprise me.
And I'm sure the same is for YouTube.
Like, who knows?
Like, Bitchute's now around, Mines is out.
Like, I don't know if there's going to be a competitor.
People have asked you, and I know it's because YouTube sets up all the different things into one spot, so it's hard.
You know, and they can easily probably put someone down if they're going somewhere else, but I mean, it's only a matter of time.
tim pool
This is why I think they attacked you.
adam crigler
Twitter, same thing.
tim pool
I think they attacked YouTube so hard because with YouTube, people who, if you click the video and then you watch for a long time, YouTube recommends it more.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
It wasn't about an arbitrary group of moderators deleting stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So this allowed content that people actually like to start doing really, really well.
And there's been a massive spike in conservative content.
At least they call it conservative.
What I really think it is, it's the culture war right.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
I don't think it means right wing or left wing in the political sense.
adam crigler
It's more just not left.
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
Would be more accurate.
Exactly.
Right.
tim pool
Yeah, because in the rankings, they consider my content conservative.
I made a video where I'm like, the death penalty should be opposed at all costs.
And a bunch of conservatives argue with me like I disagree.
And I'm like, well, I oppose the death penalty.
It's not a conservative opinion for the most part.
I say for the most part because it's a particularly libertarian position.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But it's like, I can say my position and my politics, which are clearly liberal left-leaning, as are yours.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But because we'll rag on the left, they say we must be right.
So this kind of content is skyrocketing.
These social justice racist commercials are getting attacked left and right.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But then, you know what?
It's almost like Venture capitalists and advertising agencies are trapped 10 years ago when they thought the left was hit.
But I'll tell you what, man.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's it.
You're right.
tim pool
I have rock stars.
I say rock stars, but like very famous musicians who hit me up.
And we'll be like, yo, bro, I saw your video, man.
And they'll say like, here's what I was thinking.
adam crigler
COVID!
tim pool
Pro skateboarders.
unidentified
I want to jam with these people.
adam crigler
I want to skate with those people.
tim pool
Dude, the craziest thing to me, I've said this before, but it bears repeating in the context of this video.
When I got hit up by some of these pro skateboarders, like, dude, skateboarders trespass.
They break the rules.
They care for no laws.
They're anarchists, like libertarian.
And they were hitting me up being like, I agree 100%.
Like, this is nuts.
Dude, you know what it is?
I think skateboarders really... Not for the most part, because a lot are probably just not paying attention, but at the core, like these authoritarian leftists and the weird social justice stuff, it's fake social justice, it's authoritarian, and it's the antithesis of skateboarding.
Skateboarding's all about you conquering by yourself.
Like, a skateboarder will tell you, hey man, you gotta do it.
You gotta drop in.
No one's gonna drop in for you.
That's the antithesis of what they say.
adam crigler
It's true.
tim pool
Like, you need to... No, someone has to drop in for you because of your privilege.
It's not fair or something.
You're too tall.
You're a man.
You're a woman.
Whatever.
So I started getting hit up by skateboarders telling me they agreed and stuff, and I'm like, some people that I've known since I was a kid and looked up to, I was like, wow, man.
Like, these people are hippies.
Like, these are the leftists who are like, chillin', smokin', pot in the beach, arguing against the Democrats right now.
That to me was like, I think these marketing companies still just assume the left is cool.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
I'll tell you what, man.
Side note.
adam crigler
They'll figure it out.
They'll follow the money.
tim pool
We'll, uh... Actually, we should jump to the skateboarding segment in this, you know.
But I'll make one more quick comment.
There was a post on Reddit about... It was like, F the alt-right or something.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Like, it's a subreddit dedicated to ragging on the alt-right.
Which basically doesn't exist anymore, like, as a movement.
Like, it's been wiped out by social media.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
But it was a picture of Desmond, the 11-year-old drag queen.
Danth.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Are you familiar with the Desmond story?
adam crigler
I... I don't think so.
tim pool
Eleven-year-old boy ripping off their clothes on stage for money as adult men throw money at him.
adam crigler
Okay, I've heard about this, but I never saw the video.
Was it really cringe?
tim pool
It's horrifying.
adam crigler
It sounds terrible.
tim pool
I don't want to get too into detail, but it's a little boy pulling off his clothes on stage.
He's wearing clothes underneath multiple layers.
And then men throw dollars at him.
I asked some people I know who have familiarity with the gentleman club enterprises, strippers, I know some strippers, and I asked them, and they told me that was stripping.
They said that what people don't realize about stripping is that a lot of strip clubs don't allow full nudity.
So the women wear sports bras and sports running shorts, and when they strip, They're still fully clothed underneath.
And so I was specifically told about that video.
They were like, oh yeah, like in South Dakota, 100% that's legit stripping.
Like that would be considered stripping to any stripper in like these areas and these jurisdictions.
adam crigler
So is this, who's okay with this video?
tim pool
The tribal left.
So this is the point I was getting to, like, where I think things might be starting to break, maybe, is that somebody was attacking the alt-right, posted the picture, and said something like, right-wingers keep trying to post this to attack this poor child or something, and then I looked at the comments, and the comments were all like, uh, no, I kind of agree, that's messed up, like, what the, like, oh my, like, is this kid dancing?
adam crigler
What is this?
tim pool
Like, people actually saw it, and they were like, what?
Like, this is messed up stuff.
Put it on TV, though.
I don't know which channels I want to call them out and get in trouble, but a bunch of channels are, like, praising this and cheering for it.
Yeah, dude, it's getting nuts out there, man.
adam crigler
My goodness.
tim pool
So, yeah.
I just bring it up as the last bit of, like, it's one of the more extreme instances.
But we do have an interesting story that I want to get controversial for everybody.
So, I hope you all are ready.
This is from Slate.
Anti-LGBTQ firm tries to disqualify Judge because he won't let it misgender trans kids.
The story's not true.
adam crigler
It's not?
tim pool
Technically, it's not true.
So, this is where things start getting really weird.
You read a little bit about, like, the trans athlete stuff, right?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, basically, they're saying if you're biologically male but identify as female, you can compete against women.
adam crigler
Right, which I don't agree with.
tim pool
Okay.
Here's what happened first.
At first they said, woman and man are words for gender, which is a social
construct.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So if you, if you identify as a woman, you can be a woman because it's just a social construct.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Male and female are biology.
That's what they said first, a few years ago.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So they were like, we get it, we get it, male means you were born with, you know, XY and female means XX, and then there's intersex and things in between.
Over time, they've been erasing that entirely and completely arguing that there's no such thing as biological sex.
And it's funny because I tell people this and they say, that's not true, no one's saying that.
Nicholas Matt a professor from Toronto on public access television in a debate with Jordan Peterson said several years ago It is not correct that there is a such thing as biological sex Normally, I like pulling it up to prove it to people.
adam crigler
Yeah.
No, I actually saw that.
I've seen that.
tim pool
So that's where we're at.
So here's the real story There's biological males that have taken no hormones, undergone no treatments, and they're racing against biological females.
adam crigler
It's ridiculous.
tim pool
And they're winning every time.
adam crigler
What a surprise.
tim pool
And shattering records.
adam crigler
Sure.
tim pool
So some young women sued, some young females sued.
In the case, the attorney was on a conference call with the judge, and the judge said, you cannot, my order, is that you cannot refer to these athletes, the males, as male.
You must call them transgender female.
Think about what that means in a court argument.
Your honor, I believe these females should not be allowed to compete against these females, because these females have a direct advantage based on their female anatomy.
adam crigler
Well, you'd have to say these transgender females against these females.
tim pool
They're not transgender females, though.
adam crigler
But that's... oh, I thought that was the order.
tim pool
The judge was wrong.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
So, a male who is transgender.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
To be woman.
adam crigler
A transgender woman means you are not born a woman, right?
tim pool
A male who is transgender.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Biologically male.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Who is transgender.
adam crigler
Okay.
Is now a woman?
tim pool
Wants to be a woman.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Or identifies as potentially as a woman.
I don't know what they identify as.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
The judge doesn't seem to understand, but more importantly, whether he understands or not, I'm sure people will argue what transgender female really means anyway.
adam crigler
Of course they will.
tim pool
So this is where, like, it gets really, really crazy.
Now, you have these articles pop up.
This is nuts.
Like, this article is an outright lie.
How do we actually deal with protecting the civil rights of individuals?
So these women are suing, basically saying it's discrimination based on their biological sex.
And the judge is saying, you can't say these words.
adam crigler
I don't know.
Pardon me.
I mean, I follow Ariella.
She was on the show.
And she's a well-known lesbian who has a lot of trans friends.
And I see her post things to communicate with others and ask questions to try to understand it.
And so I'm following it.
And there's a lot of trans people who don't agree with this.
They're like, yeah, it's not fair.
I'm trans, and I don't agree with this.
And it's like, oh, that's interesting to know that not everyone, even the trans people, think it's fair.
It just makes me think it's not even the trans people who are even fighting anymore.
tim pool
It's media companies.
adam crigler
It's the Karens.
It's the people who are offended for others.
Like, oh no, that's offensive!
I should fight for it!
No, don't tell me that I'm not that.
I don't care.
I'm going to fight for it anyway.
tim pool
Let me be offended on your behalf.
adam crigler
Yes, exactly.
tim pool
That's what really bothers me the most about these people.
adam crigler
That's what I think all of this stuff is.
tim pool
When I was at Occupy Wall Street, having these white progressives tell me that I didn't understand racism, I'm like, bro, do I got to say it?
I'm going to say it.
My family's mixed race.
It's funny because people bring up, they're like, Tim says he's mixed race all the time.
I'm like, yeah, because you don't get it, man.
Like, when I'm trying to communicate effectively to a conservative, I don't have to say it at all.
They don't care.
They literally don't.
It's not an issue for them.
But if I'm trying to make a video that will at least, in some way, speak to some of these progressives and liberals, I have to say it.
Otherwise, they're like, what do you know?
adam crigler
You're a white guy.
tim pool
Not even that, like, half the time they call me Hispanic.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, they just, it's insane.
It doesn't matter.
It's insane how bigoted these people have become while claiming, like, you know, you know, you know, the perfect, the perfect, the perfect quote for this.
What is it, um... Be careful when fighting monsters, lest you become one.
For when you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back.
That perfectly explains these people.
They started saying, racism is bad, we're gonna fight for it, and they became the overt racists.
And now it's like... But it's not just about race, it's about the bigotry, right?
They said, we're gonna fight for the rights of minority groups, and they're literally taking away the right of females to have a competitive sport.
adam crigler
It's like all the fight that women have fought for, for all these years, for everything.
tim pool
Females.
adam crigler
Sorry, females.
Or whatever it is.
It's like, eh, well, if a guy feels like he can do it better than you, I'm going to be a woman now and win.
tim pool
It's not even that.
It's not even that, right?
adam crigler
I'm sure it's a lot more complicated than that.
tim pool
Yeah, so I'll be as fair as I can be.
I'm sure there are some guys who are like, I'll just say I'm a woman and I'll get to compete.
adam crigler
Hasn't that happened already?
tim pool
I mean, I don't know.
adam crigler
Not proven, but it sure seems like it.
tim pool
It's dangerous territory because then you're, you know, claiming somebody's... Maybe.
But the reason I'm careful on this is because we don't even need to go there.
If somebody is born male and then says, I want to compete against females, it's like, I get it, but that's not fair.
adam crigler
Exactly.
It's not fair.
tim pool
That is not equality.
adam crigler
It isn't.
tim pool
That is inequality.
You are taking the rights away from them to have their specific division.
Now, here's where it gets interesting.
And this is where we get to go a little scientific.
Not really, it's anecdotal.
adam crigler
Oh, great.
tim pool
So, the Olympics will allow... I believe the Olympics in some capacity are going to allow males to compete in the women's divisions.
So long as their testosterone levels are at a certain level.
Are, like, suppressed, right?
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Pull up this story.
Pull up this story.
Lockdown spurs 11-year-old skateboarder to make history with first 1080 degree turn.
Guy Curie lands holy grail of skating while in lockdown.
Brazilian surpasses previous record first set by Tony Hawk, 11 years old!
unidentified
Brutal.
tim pool
Tony Hawk was what?
unidentified
30?
adam crigler
32?
He was 30 when he did that?
The 900?
tim pool
Yeah, what's Tony Hawk's birthday?
Can you look up his birthday?
lydia smith
I think he was like 30 or 32 or something.
tim pool
Maybe he was in his late 20s.
Yeah, I think he was I think he was like 30 or 30. Yeah, maybe maybe he was in his late 20s
Either way. Yeah, my point is is obvious. He was born in 68 Yeah, dude, he was like 32.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
He was like 31 or 32 when he landed.
lydia smith
His birthday's tomorrow.
tim pool
Oh, happy birthday, Tony.
lydia smith
Happy birthday, Tony.
tim pool
Tony Hawk's awesome.
I love watching his videos on Instagram.
He's amazing.
adam crigler
Yeah, he is really great.
tim pool
So now we're going to get controversial because I'm sure we're going to make a bunch of people angry.
Here's my question.
The first 540... Okay, so for those that aren't familiar with skateboarding.
Each time the board rotates so that it's parallel is 180 degrees.
So half turn, full turn, 360.
One and a half is 540, two is 720.
You get it.
It's math.
Tony Hawk in, I think it was 1999?
Was it 1999?
I think so, yeah.
Maybe?
He landed the first 900 degree spin.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Meaning he went up, spun two and a half times, and came down, and it took him forever.
It was outside of the rules of the event.
He'd already gone over, but everyone's like, just do it!
Just do it, man!
And it was so powerful.
That he got all these crazy video game deals.
It sparked the Tony Hawk franchise.
He made tons of money.
Skateboarding immediately became like a multi-billion dollar industry.
He revived the whole sport and culture with one move.
unidentified
The 900.
tim pool
And now...
Sunday, 10th of May, an 11-year-old boy just spun one more time than he did at like the height of his career.
adam crigler
A full 360 more.
Oh no, it was one half.
tim pool
So, what this kid did was he went fakie, which means you go backwards, and he added a half turn.
So, it's incredible.
adam crigler
Guy Curie's Skateboarding, coming soon.
tim pool
Are they?
Yeah, right?
A video game series.
So, the first 1080 we ever saw was on the MegaRamp.
adam crigler
Yeah, it was Micho... Micho something?
tim pool
No, no, I think it was... Was it Tom Schar?
unidentified
Tom?
tim pool
Uh, Mitchie Brusco?
lydia smith
Mitchie... Yeah, Mitchie Brusco, July 2011?
tim pool
Was it?
lydia smith
Yeah, that's... The first 1080.
tim pool
I think so.
So that was on a MegaRamp.
adam crigler
Oh, maybe he did the 1200.
tim pool
No, no, Tom... What was it last year?
Was it Tom Schar did the 1260?
adam crigler
I'm not sure.
Oh my gosh, these numbers... Someone did a crazy... I think it was... I thought it was 1200 or something.
tim pool
Like, they both did, like, crazy moves.
That's why I always mix them up.
Yeah, 1260.
Yeah.
And it was a huge deal.
But that's the mega ramp.
That's a really, really large ramp where you get tons of speed.
This little kid on a standard halfpipe.
That's why it's record-breaking and it's breaking the new record.
adam crigler
It's huge.
tim pool
Here's why I bring this up in this context.
The first female 540, I think, was like 2008 or 2009 or something.
Okay.
The first male 540 was like the 70s.
adam crigler
Yeah, I don't know.
tim pool
The disparity in skateboarding between men and women is the biggest for any sport I've ever seen.
I don't know why, don't ask me.
But women definitely have been improving dramatically, and there are some really, really good female skaters.
adam crigler
Well, no, you explained it.
We talked about this before, and you explained it perfectly.
The reason why is because there isn't as many women to compete against.
So when a woman goes out there, and they do a kickflip to 5-0 on a rail, It's like, oh wow, that's the best trick done, so they don't have to raise the bar too high to win.
So why would you?
tim pool
But it's not just that.
Here's the question I'm bringing up now, where I'm going to get in trouble and we're going to get yelled at by YouTube.
lydia smith
Sure.
tim pool
Why is it that a prepubescent 11-year-old boy, no puberty, was able to pull off a record-breaking historical move in skateboarding history?
Where are the 11-year-old females doing the same thing?
It's because prenatal testosterone plays a huge role.
So my question is, if we're gonna allow trans athletes, transgender, you know, people born male, to compete in the women's division, no matter what is done, no matter if they get their testosterone levels down, they will have an advantage, period. 100%.
adam crigler
I agree.
tim pool
Like, dude, I've seen videos of six-year-old boys, like, doing crazy things.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I've competed.
I'm not gonna shout out some of these people, because some of them are pro now, so I'll leave them to their own, I'm not gonna get them dragged into this.
But I've competed against some people who are, like, much, much younger than me, who absolutely destroyed me at my prime.
Like, little kids, just so good, I'm like, this is nuts!
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm an adult man, these kids are just wiping the floor with me in this contest.
But we don't see the same thing from, you know, eight-year-old girls or nine-year-old girls.
There have been some, like, pretty good moves from little kids, you know, younger females.
adam crigler
Well, I mean, I have to just bring in the whole societal impact of what a girl should be and what, like, girls' dolls, Barbies, like, the whole thing.
Guys, you know, a boy sees skateboarders and there's not that many female skateboarders to look up to.
Tony Hawk is huge, you know?
It's like you said it, like in 1999 skateboarding became a billion dollar industry, you know?
And that's a guy sport predominantly.
So, you know, growing up, you know, there's gonna be more 11 year old skateboarders making, you know, boy skateboarders making history, you know, over the girls.
So that does come into play, you know?
tim pool
I think, yes.
adam crigler
Right.
But I think... I mean, your point remains, though.
He did it before puberty, still broke a record.
That's insane.
tim pool
It's history, man.
This is such a big... I agree.
Like, when you look at Tony Hawk's career, landing the 900, how big it was.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
This 11-year-old kid just landed the 1080 on a standard halfpipe.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Now he should do it in a contest.
adam crigler
I mean, these kids are skating their whole lives.
This kid definitely was born on a skateboard.
I'm willing to put money on it.
tim pool
And he's Brazilian too.
So it's like, you know, Brazilians, for whatever reason, Brazilians are just like the best skateboarders.
adam crigler
They're really good at skateboarding.
tim pool
Bob Bernquist.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
He's great.
And Leticia Buffoni, basically like the best female skateboarder in the world.
adam crigler
She's amazing.
tim pool
Yeah.
She's better than like 99% of dudes.
adam crigler
Probably.
tim pool
But that's, yeah.
So that's like, Obviously, female skateboarders can be ridiculously good.
Lutetia is insanely good.
adam crigler
Yeah, she's really good.
tim pool
But why, you know, I bring this up because I don't believe it's just society.
I think it plays a role.
I think it's fair.
Like, you know, a younger girl's not gonna see any, like, you know, super pop, like, well-known females breaking records or anything like that.
It probably has an impact.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But shouldn't it be at least, I don't know, if they're skating together, similar I don't know, man.
I really do feel like prenatal testosterone plays a huge role in this.
adam crigler
I agree with that.
tim pool
Because I've talked to some scientists about it who have brought that up and said that's the case.
That even if you reduce your testosterone levels, you will still have an advantage due to prenatal testosterone levels.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So now that we're now that we're basically banned from YouTube forever because they're going to claim and, you know, hate speech or whatever nonsense.
unidentified
Gosh.
tim pool
Yeah.
I don't I don't know how we navigate this, man.
adam crigler
This is just us.
I mean, I have transgender friends.
I'm not trying to like.
Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Nope.
tim pool
Just by saying that.
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
That you have friends.
Yeah, that's a huge no, no, bro.
You can't say that.
lydia smith
Friends?
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
adam crigler
And they're amazing people.
No, they agree with me.
tim pool
You're not allowed to say that.
OK, that's like super offensive.
adam crigler
To who?
tim pool
To the they.
To the left?
Whenever you're having an argument, if you say, well, I have friends who are X, they immediately snip that, take that, and attack you for it.
adam crigler
Well, the reason why is because I've actually had conversations with them.
So, like, I'm going off my own experiences of what they've told me.
So it's like...
You say the left and all these people, and it's like, who are they even to talk anyway?
tim pool
Pitchfork mobs on Twitter?
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
So bring it on.
I don't care.
I know what I know.
I know who has told me their opinions on things, and it's silly.
tim pool
It's weird that these companies are more reactive to the left's mobs than the right's mobs.
You're right.
The way I explained it before, it's simple.
We'll, you know, here's what I said, like... Because they're the ones that'll burn your building down.
Bingo.
Bingo.
adam crigler
Seriously.
They're the scary mobs.
tim pool
There will never be a moment where Ben Shapiro leads a pitchfork mob of, you know, black-clad, masculine people and he's like, listen, you can't have a debate in this building because it's offensive to me and my people, so we're gonna burn your building down.
Like, never gonna happen.
Never.
In fact, the worst case scenario was he'd show up and be like, I would like to formally request a debate with you on your stage.
And we'd be like, hey, that's awesome, come on over.
adam crigler
Sure, yeah, alright.
tim pool
The left just shows up and screams re and throws a brick.
Yeah, you're never gonna see, like, I mean, maybe there will be some, you know, there are some conservative, because nobody's perfect, but it's lopsided.
There's very few people on the right that would ever try and pull something like that off.
The left just lets it happen.
adam crigler
They just re.
tim pool
So here's what I'll say about the left, man.
Regular liberal people, are they going to stand up and defend our rights?
No.
adam crigler
No, they're doing their own thing.
tim pool
They don't care.
They're not paying attention.
adam crigler
Yeah, they're doing their own thing.
tim pool
Conservatives are wired, man.
They're on, they're active, they're posting memes, they're making memes.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
Yep.
The left is just, so here's what happens, the craze of the left are in control of the left.
Because the regular leftists just aren't paying attention.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
That's what we get, man.
So, I don't know.
I wanted to bring this up because 1080, awesome.
adam crigler
It is awesome.
tim pool
And the other story was ridiculous.
adam crigler
You wanna discredit all the people that are trying to yell that he didn't actually do it, and he reverted out at the last bit, which is total BS, by the way.
tim pool
I've heard people argue that he did the 1080, but he did a quick, nah, get out of here.
He nailed it, dude.
adam crigler
That was legit.
I think he was past the 90 degree point.
Like, he might've like touched on one wheel.
tim pool
His back wheels came down when he had like 80 degrees left.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
I don't care, dude.
But he rolled it out, he rolled through.
tim pool
He landed it perfectly, as far as I can tell.
Yeah, yeah, he landed it.
He took it low, like he was going for it, man.
So this kid's basically like 20 feet in the air.
And when you're on a half pipe, you wanna connect with the top
so you can transfer your energy back to the ground.
Otherwise you just, boom, into the ground.
He took it low.
He was like, I'm not gonna land it.
I'm not gonna put my feet down until I stick it.
I guess the advantage of being 11 is he weighs like 50 pounds.
adam crigler
That's true.
So it won't hurt if he whips it.
Which he probably did many times.
tim pool
Lose your board and you just slowly float to the ground.
adam crigler
Just slide on your knees.
tim pool
Yeah, when you're an adult.
Like Tony Hawk is like 6'3", probably weighs like 200 pounds.
adam crigler
He's a big dude, yeah.
tim pool
He's lanky, that's why I say 200 ever.
But so when he slams, you know.
adam crigler
But they still, dude, he shreds, man.
Him and Andy Mac, they're constantly posting videos.
tim pool
I love watching his Instagram, it's awesome.
Yeah, it's like I just follow skateboarding Instagram.
unidentified
That's all I follow.
adam crigler
It's great.
Nice.
tim pool
All right, man.
We went a little long on these segments, but we're going to jump over to the Super Chats.
adam crigler
What up, everybody?
tim pool
Now, this is the point of the video where we start reading what you have to say.
So the first thing you have to do is hit the like button.
lydia smith
Hit the button.
tim pool
because apparently YouTube cares.
adam crigler
Hit the like.
Yeah.
tim pool
I already liked it.
And you can follow me at Timcast.
You can follow Adam at Adam Krigler right down there.
Send Adam story ideas.
You'll like post a tweet or something, right?
And like tell people to follow.
adam crigler
I'll do that right now.
I'm gonna do it at this very moment.
I'm gonna be like, we're on, we're on.
We are live.
Let me send one.
We are live.
tim pool
We are live.
We use the stories.
And yeah man, jump in the super chat if you'd like.
We're gonna start reading it.
You know, maybe what we can start doing to make sure we can read the super chats is just
do all of like the general talking for the first hour or so and then just read super
lydia smith
Would you do that?
tim pool
Because then we can try and get through more.
adam crigler
Yeah, I love getting through the superchats.
I read them all on Atomcast.
We have higher standards for superchats.
tim pool
Well... I'm just kidding.
Someone said they disliked the video.
You are freezing.
adam crigler
Actually, that is totally fine.
lydia smith
That works, too.
adam crigler
I will accept a dislike.
tim pool
It absolutely does hurt the channel, 100%.
This is a myth.
adam crigler
Is it?
tim pool
For a long time, it has been a myth that dislikes are just as good as likes.
Not true at all.
adam crigler
Oh, really?
tim pool
I've actually talked to Google about this, and they said... They gave me a wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And guided me through basically telling me that when you dislike a video, you destroy it.
adam crigler
Oh, wow.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
100%.
adam crigler
Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
unidentified
What does that mean, though?
tim pool
They can't give away their algorithmic secrets.
adam crigler
Oh, that makes sense.
tim pool
So they never tell anyone what works and what doesn't.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And so I was talking to someone and I said, the common idea for most people is that likes and dislikes just mean engaged with.
So YouTube is equally as likely to recommend it if it's got likes or dislikes.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And they went, don't get dislikes.
adam crigler
Yeah.
That's what they said to you?
Yeah.
tim pool
And I was like, really?
Cause that, is that bad for the video?
And they were like, say that.
If you want recommendations, likes really help.
And I'm like, ah.
And so I've actually, actually looked at data.
And track this.
The more dislikes, you can actually see the viewership drop in line with the amount of dislikes you start receiving.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
So absolutely.
adam crigler
So make sure you like.
lydia smith
Please like.
adam crigler
Like the video and subscribe.
Hit the bell button.
tim pool
If you really dislike it, by all means, do it.
You're free to do whatever you want.
I'm going to tell you what to do.
I'm just saying, like, people seem to think when you see a video you don't like on YouTube and you give it a thumbs down, it really, really hurts the video.
That's one of the reasons they disable it.
But you can still like or dislike it, even if they hide it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And so by hiding it, they're trying to discourage people from doing it, because when you see the dislike ratio, people pile on.
adam crigler
You should stop talking about it.
The more you talk about it, the dislikes are just going up.
lydia smith
Get some honorary people.
unidentified
Whatever.
tim pool
People can ruin the channel.
adam crigler
Actually, wait, they're going down now.
tim pool
People are free to do what they want to do now.
adam crigler
And the like buttons are going up!
lydia smith
Now they know, yeah.
Everybody knows now.
tim pool
Alright, let's read the comments.
NotABannedAccount says, lost and got rehired at my job same day.
lydia smith
COVID.
tim pool
Whoa, weird.
adam crigler
Congrats?
lydia smith
Good.
tim pool
JustUs says, first.
Well, you were second, actually, unfortunately.
But it goes on to say, eat plants.
lydia smith
Oh, OK.
tim pool
Dude, we made a vegan pizza the other day.
It was really good.
adam crigler
I didn't try it.
tim pool
It's not really hard to make.
We just, we laid chow cheese on the crust and then put sauce on top.
adam crigler
You hear that?
He's making vegan stuff.
I'm not even around.
tim pool
He's not even around.
I'm so proud!
But I ate a whole mess of chicken.
I ate a whole mess of chicken.
That's right.
adam crigler
Bring it around.
tim pool
Bring it back around.
It was like Greek yogurt chicken.
It was delicious.
Some egg salad.
And then I was like, I want to make a pizza.
But we don't have any, like, pizza cheese.
We have American cheese and we have the vegan stuff.
And I gotta be honest, like, American cheese for pizza is, like, whack.
unidentified
Ooh, no, not good.
tim pool
You can't.
You can't do it.
So we did the vegan stuff.
That was actually really good.
Came out really well.
Cordo says, here's a story for you, Tim.
Apparently, smoking nicotine possibly prevents COVID-19.
Isn't that weird?
Look up China's and France's low infected numbers among active smokers.
I heard that.
lydia smith
So weird.
adam crigler
Interesting.
tim pool
Because it, like, blocks something in the lungs or something like that.
Hmm, I don't know.
I'm not gonna recommend.
adam crigler
Well, don't the lungs like build up this huge like defense system if you're a smoker I was a smoker for a long time and when I quit I hacked up stuff for like a year straight Seriously, and it's probably what it was Yeah.
tim pool
Secret medicinal effects, huh?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Drunk Shovel says, Elon Musk is genuinely the hero we need.
Dude, I think Elon Musk is awesome.
adam crigler
I agree.
tim pool
Yeah.
But he's not perfect.
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
He's just an eccentric dude who, like... He's a human.
Yeah.
adam crigler
And he does his thing.
tim pool
I tweeted at him once.
He responded.
adam crigler
Very cool.
tim pool
It was a good day.
I asked Elon Musk why he hadn't made an Iron Man suit yet, and he said, building Starship.
And I was like, that is an acceptable response.
LaSalle says, welcome back guys.
Love the stuff today, Tim.
Appreciate it.
Kenrick says, did you all see the videos of the 1080 by a kid?
You know it!
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Amazing.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Dude, I watched it.
I'm all excited.
I want to skate today.
I'm like, I'm ready to just throw down any trick on the ramp and just fall and get hurt, because we have a three-foot mini.
This kid's thrown out a 1080, dude.
The least I can do is like a kickflip 5-0 or something.
You know what I mean?
adam crigler
You got to land it, dude.
tim pool
Yeah, I know.
I used to be super good at ramps, but I'm too old now, man.
lydia smith
Darn rain.
adam crigler
Aren't I older than you?
tim pool
Yes.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
If I still skate, well it's because like over time I started skating just street.
adam crigler
No, you're definitely better on flat than I am.
tim pool
So I can do basically every single flip trick possible and then some.
But mini ramp, I just lost my sea legs.
But you know what?
I'm just gonna go for it.
I'm just gonna go nuts.
And then you'll see me filming off a broken arm or something.
Nah, I'll be fine.
adam crigler
Hopefully I'll be filming him when he breaks the arm.
tim pool
Yeah, we'll film something.
adam crigler
Just kidding.
You're not going to break anything.
tim pool
If we were filming, I'd go nuts.
adam crigler
This is wood, right?
tim pool
I'm not even kidding.
adam crigler
I'm knocking it.
tim pool
Turn the camera on, and I'll go for a switchblunt heel-out first try.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
I'm not even kidding.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
I'll just try and stick it.
I'll hit the floor.
Okay.
Because you get the slam on cam.
adam crigler
Oh, trust me.
I know.
tim pool
So for those that aren't familiar, when you're filming skateboarding, if you slam and you get it on film, It's pretty good.
It's like, you show your friends, like, bro, look at this slam, oh, my arm's all bloody.
And then if you land it, well, then you landed it, and then you show off for it, but check out how I landed it.
adam crigler
You didn't get on Hall of Meat.
tim pool
Yeah, for sure.
Let's see.
Justin O'Toole says, so Anne Sikulis is now an internationally wanted fugitive by Interpol.
Should the U.S.
allow her to be extradited for killing one of our citizens?
Oh, that's the lady who ran over that dude.
lydia smith
The wife of the diplomat.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
I don't know anything about this.
tim pool
I've been following it, yeah.
It's not that important.
it. Yeah. I don't know enough. I don't know enough about it.
David says question for nurse lids. What would you prescribe for arthritis from Karen
finger wanging syndrome or yuppie liberal hand wringing guilt? Oh gosh, I don't know. You don't
unidentified
know.
adam crigler
In your professional opinion.
lydia smith
Tylenol.
unidentified
Tylenol.
adam crigler
Too easy.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Charles says, Elon Musk, be like, come at me, bro.
For sure, dude.
Totally.
STFU says, nicotine is a known poison and anti-parasitic.
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
It's anti-parasitic?
lydia smith
Interesting.
tim pool
Yarin says, y'all got any good book recommendations?
adam crigler
I do.
I mean, if you're into the books that I read, I don't know.
Dragonlance.
Old school, yet still really good.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
That's it?
unidentified
No other books?
adam crigler
I mean, The Wheel of Time is one of the best series I've ever read.
Sword of Truth was amazing.
Also a really long series, but really good.
I like those kind of movies.
tim pool
Oh, you know what?
There's this really great series, um... What's it called?
It's about this, like, kid... Harry Potter!
unidentified
Boom.
adam crigler
Never read it.
tim pool
Harry Potter!
adam crigler
I've never read it.
tim pool
Those were fun books to read when you're, like, a little kid.
adam crigler
I'm waiting to have kids, alright?
And then I'll read them.
lydia smith
I think that's very sweet.
adam crigler
I'm gonna read it with them.
tim pool
I'll rip one for you, sir.
That's right.
tim i need your help a mc is trying to ban bathroom talk please do a segment on my dilemma
and let the left to know that part speech is free speech all right here we are just
we just got it i'll rip one for you sir yeah right andrew says are grandal is looking to
declassify any obama official involved in flint on masking according to a bc yes i saw
unidentified
that who's getting spicy.
tim pool
Look, as we get closer to November, we're going to see a ton of stuff declassified, in my opinion.
But we'll see, man.
Because I do not... Look, we live in a boring world.
Could you imagine if, like, a former Obama high-ranking official actually got arrested, and it was like a big scandal?
Yeah, right.
They're going to cut a sweetheart deal.
They're going to cut a deal.
They're going to be like, we'll give you a million dollars, and you can go live in your mansion, and then we're all going to walk away from it.
That's what they do at the top.
Nobody faces justice.
That's right, it's Victory Day.
know how much y'all know about history but May 8th was the 75th anniversary of
victory in Europe day the day Germany surrendered that's right it's victory
day Paul says Musk should make medical grade PPA PRS for his Tesla production
workers and shame California blinky bill says proposed bill HRC
Did you hear about this?
adam crigler
No.
unidentified
What are they thinking?
tim pool
What the heck?
The bill to provide funding for like COVID tracing is 6666.
adam crigler
Well, that's four sixes though.
tim pool
It's one worse.
It's 33% worse than regular 666.
But come on, why would they do that?
lydia smith
This is why people think it's the end of the world.
tim pool
You know what, man?
adam crigler
Oh, that's silly.
Contact tracing is gonna- I mean, what if it is literally just the 6,666th one?
It's just optics, man.
tim pool
Just skip it.
adam crigler
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
Just skip it or do a bill where you're like, propose an ice cream party.
Whatever you do, don't name the bill where you're gonna contact trace people 6666.
adam crigler
Whatever.
I don't even care.
That's silly.
lydia smith
It is really silly, but I thought it was so weird.
tim pool
The Dashing Rogue says, people forget that Tesla makes overtime mandatory for its workers.
When Tesla opens in Texas, watch for complaints about the hours and work conditions.
Well, Elon Musk got to fix that, because those are legitimate complaints.
adam crigler
I will call him up.
That's true.
That's some of the stuff I was talking about.
My buddy that worked at Tesla, he would work there a ridiculous amount of hours.
tim pool
I worked for American Eagle Airlines.
They also had mandatory overtime.
You could not leave.
If they could just tell you, nope.
You're staying.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Otherwise you're fired.
adam crigler
But you'd get overtime pay though, right?
Yes.
Okay.
tim pool
Legally they have to do it.
Right, right, right.
They call it mandatory.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And so you'd be working a night shift.
It'd be Friday night.
You're like, oh, I'm all excited because, you know, I get out at like 10, and then I'm going to go to my friend's place, get there by like 11, and then they go, nah, you're doing mandatory because a flight got delayed.
So it was kind of crazy because one flight could get delayed.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And it would be like, it's two hours late.
So you got to sit in that room and watch, you know, reruns of Friends for the next two hours.
You can't leave.
unidentified
Yep.
adam crigler
Sucks.
tim pool
People would bring an Xbox though to play video games, so.
adam crigler
Not so bad.
tim pool
Not so bad.
Adrian says, do you think Obamagate articles are strategically released to prevent certain Democratic officials from replacing Biden?
Love the show.
I don't know about that.
adam crigler
Interesting.
tim pool
I mean, it might actually encourage replacement if they implicate Biden in knowing these things too, so.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
I don't know.
I think they're coming out over time because there's two factors.
If Trump doesn't get reelected, then these people get away with everything.
And so the safest bet is to release as much as they can before the election, but also timing it strategically because it will help Trump get reelected.
adam crigler
Yeah, I don't think the Democrats like any of this.
tim pool
They played the game, man.
But we'll see if anyone actually gets in trouble, I doubt it.
I think it'll be low-ranking officials.
I don't think it's gonna be anyone high up.
Kyle Miller says, Tim's beanie is a SCP.
Hello, I'm from the government and I am here to help.
He says, so much respect to Elon Musk.
Lots of love to you guys, thanks for being you.
Appreciate it.
Wolfspain says, when will black communities learn these democratic strongholds and media aren't their friends?
I'm tired of seeing my community destroyed by politicians who don't care about them.
It's frustrating.
Zuby brought this up because Zuby is British and he said he genuinely didn't understand.
adam crigler
And Nigerian.
tim pool
Is he?
adam crigler
Yeah, he is.
tim pool
He said he didn't understand why the black communities in the US vote for Democrats when the Democrats keep giving them bad policies that hurt their community.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Hey man, don't look at me because I don't know.
I'm not a part of that community so I can only give you an external opinion.
adam crigler
He does point out a lot of things.
People love ripping him apart for it too, but he's so right.
tim pool
Didn't he write a song called Okay Dude?
adam crigler
He wrote a song about it too?
unidentified
He did, yeah.
To go with his t-shirts and his suspension.
tim pool
We're so getting banned this episode!
adam crigler
That dude's funny though, man.
unidentified
He's red.
tim pool
He's a cool dude.
adam crigler
He's got some really great points on life.
tim pool
But it's interesting because he's, you know, coming from an outside perspective looking at how Americans, you know, vote in the black community.
And, I mean, he's right.
You've got Candace Owens and she's much more...
Okay.
I don't know much about her.
Her side of stuff.
So she just like, like, you know, it's aggressive, to say the least.
adam crigler
I don't know much about her.
tim pool
Zoobie's inquisitive.
Her side of stuff.
You know, he'll be like, I'm genuinely curious, could someone help me understand why, you
adam crigler
know.
tim pool
Yeah, that's what I like about him.
Candace Owens is like, these people have destroyed our community and they have no respect and
I will see them.
You know, she's much more aggressive on it.
But I defer to them, man.
I mean, you can't ignore their opinions.
What am I supposed to say?
Like, this one group of people is right, this other... No, I don't know.
I'll take their word for it.
Kyle Harman says, F-tyrants.
You know it.
Miguel, thanks for becoming a member.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Paul N says, Black Panthers are carrying rifles at Ahmaud Arbery events, and the media, except Daily Mail, is not reporting.
But I mean, who cares?
This is the crazy thing to me.
Like, I went to an event in Texas, and there were a bunch of white dudes with body armor and, like, rifles.
And they're holding them and they're standing around, and then a dude, a black dude walks up with a shirt that said, Black Guns Matter, and he walked up and he shook all their hands, and they were hanging out.
And I'm like, There's no problems here, man.
The 2A people aren't freaking out that the Black Panthers showed up.
The Black Panthers showed up in Virginia to defend the Second Amendment, and they were like, thank you for being here.
The media is lying about who these people are.
They want you to think it's a bunch of racists when it's not.
It's liberty.
So it's like, when the Black Panthers show up to march with weapons, the people I know who are about Second Amendment are like, cool.
adam crigler
Yeah, right on.
tim pool
Glad people are doing it.
adam crigler
Yeah, I agree.
tim pool
Talbot says, truckers were affected by the gig bill too.
They were fixing the pipelines as the shutdown happened.
Surprised it went as well as it did.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Spencer, thanks for the super chat.
A Raffle says, Hey Tim and cast, thanks for all you do. Check out recent vids,
the newest two are well...
Oh, my recent vids. Yeah, well I'll take a look. Excuse me.
Big LC says, how do you think things would be playing out if the DNC rigged the primary for
Buttigieg instead of Biden? If they did, I would be sitting here arguing about how I think Buttigieg
is slightly, you know, he's not strong enough to beat Trump, but Buttigieg is a legitimate candidate.
adam crigler
Like... More than Biden was.
tim pool
What is Biden?
You know what it is?
Biden is like the last vestige of the Obama administration.
They need him in for whatever they're like to maintain their power.
Like Hillary was Obama.
adam crigler
That's funny.
You just made me realize that what we think of Biden is like the remnants of the left that still thinks they have power.
The media still thinks the left is cool.
Yep.
Biden, the Obama era, it's like, no, it's over.
tim pool
It's an old man who can't think straight.
adam crigler
It's an old man who can't think straight.
tim pool
And meanwhile, we're over here laughing at memes.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And we're playing video games and laughing at memes, man.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
They don't get it. They lost. They lost this war.
adam crigler
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
Nodar says, Heard you say you were thinking about getting a Flow Hive.
Be careful, some plants bees use produce honey that is almost solid and won't flow, thus making it almost impossible to remove without damage.
adam crigler
Interesting.
tim pool
Well, we can't actually get it where we live anyway.
We're not zoned for any of that stuff.
We can't even have chickens.
lydia smith
Nonsense.
tim pool
Now that's BS.
adam crigler
We really can't have a flow hive though?
No.
I wonder if that, whatever the pollen they get, if that's like all across the country or if it's in a certain area that that pollen is.
Interesting though.
tim pool
We can't even have chickens, man.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, what's up with, you get a little chicken, you put them in your yard, man, and it poops out eggs and you eat them up.
Can't do it.
adam crigler
Because people are dirty.
tim pool
I don't know.
I guess because the chickens can jump over fences and like get away or something.
adam crigler
Oh, really?
tim pool
I don't know what the reason is.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Why chicken?
Like the roosters, I get, you know, people waking up and like, Hey, get out of here or goats and stuff.
I get, but chickens.
Now the bees too.
It's like, I think the bees might be like a, um, local safeties, like concerns or something.
adam crigler
I mean, we really need to save the bees that people are out killing bees now because they're so afraid of murder, the murder hornets or something.
tim pool
Somebody went and burned a bunch of hives down.
adam crigler
It's like, What?
Bees are essential for, like, one out of three bites of food.
tim pool
People don't get that bees are chill.
adam crigler
Why are you killing bees?
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
They're super chill.
Bees are not wasps.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, if you get too close to a bee, they don't do anything.
adam crigler
They'll fly away.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
They'll land on you and be like, what are you all about?
tim pool
And yeah, bees are chill.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
It's wasps and yellow jackets and people confuse them and hornets.
adam crigler
Yeah.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
drunk shovel says Elon's got that Afric Africans tenacity that take that it
takes to tame the the bush American needs that grit again Thomas says many
from the conservative tribe are against the use of masks say anything to excuse
themselves for not for not using them I now call them bug chasers oof Joseph
Taylor says after telling friends I bought my limit in meat for my freezer
my friends called me an alt-right quasi-theocratic libertarian what does
unidentified
that mean? I don't know. No idea.
adam crigler
Oh, man.
tim pool
Surprise, surprise, man.
Harley Rota, a Dem, who was put into office thanks to a ballot harvesting in Orange County,
California.
It was private.
Beach was seen at the beach after tweeting to all people in OC not to go to the beach.
Surprise, surprise, man.
Rules for thee, but not for me.
Kyle Miller says, Tim, when are you going to start selling a Tim Pool body pillow?
Well, we've got to do beanies.
I was thinking about doing skateboards.
adam crigler
It's pretty far down the list.
tim pool
It'd be cool to have our own skateboards, because then I never have to worry about buying them if I just get used to the same boards.
Got to find a good company that makes boards, though, because, you know, I really like Deluxe, you know, Real and Antihero.
adam crigler
I can picture this body pillow though just like the top half is like a big beanie and then like some you know your face.
tim pool
Oh the pillow itself could be the top like it could be like you know yeah like you know beanie material yeah yeah yeah and then we'll have to replicate that shirt and no legs though you don't have any no it's gotta be it's gonna be an anime version of me right oh not as fun well it'll be funny and then one for you as well Sure.
We'll do skateboards, too.
David says, I saw an article about a bill that Dems were pushing not too long ago to abolish right-to-work states.
Probably.
That means you have to join the unions, I'm pretty sure.
Wolfsbane says, sorry Tim, I forgot to mention that my first Super Chat is about the mob mentality and manipulation around Ahmed Arbery.
It's like they don't realize it will just hurt them in the end.
This is what I don't get about, like, the people I know who are posting about Ahmed Arbery.
I just want to ask them, like, are you tired of being wrong?
You were wrong about Covington.
You were wrong about Justice Smollett.
There were a ton of other instances where you were wrong.
Like, hands up, don't shoot, during, like, Michael Brown stuff.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Federal review, apparently.
That's what happened, right?
They reviewed the evidence and said he didn't have his hands up?
unidentified
Yep.
lydia smith
No, they didn't.
I think it was on the autopsy.
tim pool
Yeah, and that came out a few months ago.
Really?
I mean, a few months after the story or whatever.
So, all these narratives.
And now they're like, he was just jogging.
It's like, bro, dude wasn't jogging in the middle of the night three times.
adam crigler
Yeah, in construction sites.
I used to work construction.
No one does that.
They're in there stealing copper or tools, trying to find anything.
tim pool
So why are all these conservatives coming out and being like, I always go to construction sites?
adam crigler
That doesn't make any sense.
tim pool
I know.
I'm like, what?
lydia smith
Does that make it okay though?
adam crigler
No, they lock construction sites down.
You can't get in there.
If you can get in there, that means you found a way in there and you shouldn't be in there.
tim pool
The garage door was open.
adam crigler
Okay, so why were you in there?
tim pool
It's funny.
adam crigler
What's the reason?
tim pool
Just checking out the construction, man.
You know, it's fun to look at a new build.
That's what people are saying.
adam crigler
That's why they leave little windows.
tim pool
I took my family.
No, I'm just kidding.
Some people tweeted, like, I took my family to a new build just the other day.
I'm like, what?
Dude, where I grew up, you get smacked in the teeth.
Somebody sees you walking around on their property.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, I don't know.
That's Chicago, man, I guess.
That's weird to me, dude.
Matthew says, that's why I'm worried unionization in the game industry, professional game developers.
Totally.
Trey says, Louisiana is a right-to-work state.
If a company has a union, you don't have to join, and you get the same benefits as the union member.
I personally like that more.
adam crigler
Why would you want to join the union?
You'd just have to pay more money.
tim pool
Garrett, don't ask me.
I have no idea.
Because when they go on strike, you lose your job?
I don't know.
I don't get it.
If you're in a union, and they say, hey, we're going on strike, guess what?
adam crigler
You can't work?
tim pool
Nope.
Going on strike.
unidentified
I'd be like nah.
tim pool
I got needs, man. I gotta feed my family.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Nope. Going on strike.
I'd be like, nah, then what?
Bomchu says, my sister lost her job because Governor Prickster made it illegal
to run any type of non-union teaching facility.
This forced her daycare to join a union which wanted over four years of back dues amounting to over... What is that?
$50,000?
$500,000!
adam crigler
Four years of back dues?
How is that legal?
What?
That doesn't even make sense.
tim pool
Not even.
Bone says our rights are inalienable, not government given.
The Constitution isn't just for sunny days.
President Trump has lost my confidence and perhaps a vote.
But why though?
He's not the one taking it away.
He's the one advocating for the rules to be restored.
Bill Barr is the one who's arguing the Constitution isn't suspended.
Connor says lockdowns, drones, armed protesters, insane media, even more polarization.
Where do we go from here?
Boogaloo, baby!
Where else do we go?
I don't know.
lydia smith
I don't know what else to do.
tim pool
You know, I was thinking one of the results we might not expect is actually complete demoralization.
So what happens is that as things get crazier and crazier, people just stop caring completely.
So like, a boogaloo requires people to fight.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And to have that energy and be like, and fall to their knees and yell, right?
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
But what happens if people feel defeated?
And then just go, I'm over this.
You guys want to go get pizza?
adam crigler
I don't think that's going to be a uniform feeling, though.
tim pool
Giving up?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
If everybody just gave up, then everything goes back to normal.
adam crigler
But you're right.
tim pool
What's normal?
These anti-Trump people are foaming at the mouth.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's nuts, man.
adam crigler
They really are.
tim pool
What is wrong with these people, dude?
Rob, thanks for coming to Member.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Charles says, Tim, you don't want someone chained to your leg.
Don't work as an oarsman on a Roman galley.
adam crigler
I will keep that in mind.
Good advice.
tim pool
Eric says, people seem to think lockdowns are a cure.
If we get the number low enough, it will disappear.
Lockdowns are a precaution, and a closed economy may kill more over a longer period of time than the virus.
And you know what people don't realize?
The economic damage comes slowly.
So everything we're seeing now is a delayed response.
Even if we reopened right now, the next few months, it's already coming, bro.
Seth Baldwin says, apparently there were 2.9 million background checks for freedom launchers in April.
Freedom launchers?
lydia smith
Freedom launchers.
tim pool
I like the launchers.
adam crigler
Is that what they're called?
tim pool
Enough to arm half the population of Denmark.
Very nice.
Sneaky Sobey says, I was reminded of the existence of Tim Allen's Home Improvement this weekend, and the show within the show of Tool Time.
If you ever decide to change the name of your podcast, think Pool Time would be fairly fitting.
But I think that would be more of like a silly, fun hangout thing with some skateboarding.
Pool Time.
lydia smith
We could do that.
tim pool
Bone says these tyrannical governors went full fascist with President Trump turning a blind eye.
The solution was simple. No shoes, no shirt, no mask, no service.
But Trump doesn't have that power.
Tenth Amendment. The states are going to do it and Trump can't stop them.
Waterdance says Tim the rogue, Adam the bard, Lydia the cleric.
I do play Rogue 100%.
Played World of Warcraft.
The brief D&D we did, I played Rogue.
What do you play in D&D?
adam crigler
Probably more of like a Ranger kind of type, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, I go for Rogue.
adam crigler
Riverwind.
tim pool
Sneaky.
Jeremy says, I'm on a Union eboard, and I don't get a damn cent.
You don't see old open shop guys, eats them up.
I get the chained to you idea, but baddies reps will proceed them, and they run themselves off.
Let's see.
Alargasoda says, I hate you Tim, love Richard.
But thank you for the $10.
Lars and Rune, thanks for the super chat.
John says, re-prisoners.
If they tried their best to get COVID, I wonder what percentage caught the CV by trying.
Would be interesting data set.
It's actually a good question.
We can look at how many actually tried and how many actually got it, and then see, like, deliberate infection rate.
adam crigler
But in that article, it was, they, they tried to infect each other.
Infected each other.
No one died.
tim pool
Yeah, I know.
adam crigler
No one got released.
tim pool
No one got released.
adam crigler
So they just, they were like, man, we're just, we have the flu now.
We're sick basically, just sick for a while.
tim pool
King Canuck says, you aren't real skate punk unless you can play the Goldfinger discography.
And the only real punk is my specific punk.
Look how anti-conformist I am.
lydia smith
Ooh, yeah.
tim pool
That's hipster.
I know the whole Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 soundtrack, baby.
Mike says, people who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them.
Eric Hoffer.
Check out the book, The True Believer.
Covfefe.
Covfefe.
New Hampshire.
trump on twitter despite all the negative press coffee fee media trump can't
spell trump signs coffee fee act twitter
no point censoring the president now sad faced trump trump is a genius
forty says as far as i know coffee as far as i know texas does have a death penalty but not
unidentified
but not by hanging new hampshire they do have just as a secondary form of death penalty new
adam crigler
hampshire and but when was the last time they actually 1939
unidentified
1939.
adam crigler
1939, yeah, okay.
lydia smith
Yep, now I know all about this.
Thanks guys.
tim pool
Gordy says, I live in El Paso and have a friend that worked as a prison guard a while back.
Maximum Casey says, I wanted to ask this question to all three of you.
What do you think about the difference between authoritarianism and totalitarianism and how
do you think those two apply in current events?
Well personally I think those are not on the same spectrum.
So, totalitarianism is authoritarianism.
But totalitarianism is like a more specific form of government where the government has total control over literally everything.
It is a form of authoritarianism.
It is peak, absolute authoritarianism.
But it doesn't say anything to the economic system.
So you can have a far-right authoritarian system that, you know, basically beats you down, forces people to do things, has strict laws, but you're allowed to trade within certain confines.
And then you can have, like, you know, far-left communism, where you get fed what you get fed, and there's a command economy controlling everything.
I don't know if you guys have thoughts on that.
adam crigler
Leave it to you.
tim pool
Zynmart says Utah used a firing squad a few years ago.
adam crigler
What?
lydia smith
Yeah, some states did have firing squad.
tim pool
Firing squad?
adam crigler
What?
unidentified
Brutal!
lydia smith
Yeah, it's pretty metal.
tim pool
I don't know, man.
I gotta be honest.
It's so metal.
I think lethal injection might be worse, in my opinion.
adam crigler
Why?
You just go to sleep.
tim pool
No, it's extremely painful.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, it's extremely painful.
Who's here to tell us this?
We know the chemicals cause excruciating pain, but they paralyze you beforehand for, you know, the people executing you so you don't scream and shriek.
unidentified
Yikes.
tim pool
So they issue a paralytic, and then it's an excruciatingly painful chemical death.
But it's not just that.
You know, I gotta be honest.
I completely oppose the death penalty in all its forms.
I think just walk me to the beach, I'll go in the ocean and start swimming.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Just swim that way.
adam crigler
It depends.
What have you done?
tim pool
I will take my chances swimming in the ocean, then you locking me in a room and killing me.
Right?
lydia smith
It depends what I guess.
tim pool
I mean, some people probably like I'll just end it now.
Now, man, what if you like to swim out and then you'll probably die.
adam crigler
But at least by my side, by drowning, probably.
That doesn't sound good.
tim pool
Yeah, maybe.
But it's like, in the .001% chance you have of somehow surviving in some way.
adam crigler
You can befriend like a sea turtle and he'll help you.
tim pool
In all likelihood, you're dead.
So you have guaranteed death in the death chamber with a state executioner.
Or you can go in the ocean and try swimming.
I'll go for the ocean, man.
You know?
Just go for it.
Whatever.
adam crigler
I mean, being put up against a wall and shot is more instant then, wouldn't it be?
tim pool
Yeah, but it's the anticipation, right?
I'll tell you what.
adam crigler
The anticipation?
Here's what I would prefer.
tim pool
I'd prefer not to know that I was sentenced to death and then just have like a surprise and have no idea it happened.
Like, let me go to bed one night, and have them tell me, don't worry, you're not being sent to death.
adam crigler
They could just gas your room.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Just suck the air out or something, or... Or suck the air out, oh, so you just will fall asleep.
tim pool
Just fall asleep, and then carbon monoxide.
And then you just don't wake up.
Yeah, why don't we do that?
You just fall asleep and you don't wake up.
adam crigler
Yeah, just put him in a sealed room.
Go to sleep.
tim pool
But not even tell him.
Just like... I don't believe the death penalty.
I think it's wrong.
I don't think anyone deserves to die.
It's a really, really tough moral, ethical situation.
adam crigler
Someone just said, death by covfefe.
tim pool
Covfefe?
Well, like drinking too much coffee?
adam crigler
I appreciate that comment.
tim pool
Mark says, Dallas and South Texas are very liberal compared to the rest of the state.
It's been shocking to see how many Texans support these shutdowns.
People are nuts, man.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's weird.
tim pool
TheJackoLantern says, make Texas great again by keeping out the commies.
You know what?
This is what I don't get.
Just let them lock it all down.
Just let them do it.
Fine.
You know what?
Fine, whatever.
Figure out how you gotta survive.
But when they say, we must lock down, say, okay.
You know why?
Who do you think's gonna survive in a total apocalyptic scenario?
The urban liberals, who are demanding money from the government, or the conservatives, who live in semi-rural areas, who believe in personal responsibility.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
It's like, dude, if you want to sink the boat you're on, okay, fine, because I know how to swim and you don't.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
I'm not really advocating for that, but what are these, like, they don't seem to understand, like, how much their, dude, New York would be a nightmare.
adam crigler
God, I'm so glad I don't, I'm not there anymore.
tim pool
People will be drinking each other's blood.
lydia smith
Wow.
adam crigler
Exciting.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm only half kidding too.
lydia smith
Very metal.
tim pool
Dave, thanks for the super chat.
Mark Martina says, Tim, have MSNBC or CNN ever asked you to guest appear for them?
If they haven't, and they did, would you show up?
Which host would you prefer to engage in a debate?
I don't like debates at all.
I don't debate anybody.
I love a discussion.
Debates are weird.
Debate is like this premise where you think you are right and you're battling to prove you're right or something.
I don't understand what the point is.
I'll have a discussion with somebody because there's probably a lot of things I don't know and we'll talk about it.
That's about it.
And if I end up having things that I think are wrong, well, the discussion is so that
we both can improve our understanding.
But I have been on MSNBC one time after I got attacked by anti-capitalists, essentially,
you know, our equivalent of Antifa back in 2011.
They had me on a talk about it.
That was a while ago.
And I don't think I have been on MSNBC or CNN since.
I don't think I've ever been on CNN.
I've been on Fox News several times.
It's really funny too.
Because when I worked for Fusion, which is like super far left, I got invited onto Fox News, and they told me to go do it, and I was like, okay.
And then a bunch of people at the company got mad at me, and I was like, but they told me to do this!
What are you mad at me for?
Yeah, but I would go on MSNBC or CNN, and it wouldn't be a debate.
I don't care who I talk to.
I'll talk to anybody, you know.
It'll be interesting.
It'll never happen, though, because they want to control the narrative.
Gary says, Dallas is heavily liberal, and the governor has been against it.
California has released thousands.
Yikes.
Andrew says, Arbery dividing people as well.
Absolutely.
adam crigler
Thank you, Sparka.
tim pool
SuperBamBam says, Tim, why you keep touching yourself?
You've tugged on your shirt about 40 times according to chat at this time.
It's because my shirt keeps drooping.
adam crigler
It's over a hundred and I think 120 now.
tim pool
My shirt droops and so I straighten it.
lydia smith
Fix it.
tim pool
Have you noticed my neck starts going down and so I go like that.
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
And then put it back up.
adam crigler
No one has.
lydia smith
I think it bothers Tim.
tim pool
Because they don't know.
lydia smith
Now they know.
adam crigler
You should fix your shirt.
tim pool
Fred Fredfurter says, would you moderate a political debate at any level for the 2020 election?
If so, would you wear an all-black suit and tie with a fancy beanie?
I would not moderate a political debate at any level.
I don't like debates.
You know, I could have a discussion with somebody.
adam crigler
But the second question though?
tim pool
Would I wear an all black suit?
Absolutely not.
Of course not.
adam crigler
But the fancy beanie though.
I got invited to the Clinton- I want to see the fancy beanie.
tim pool
I got invited to a Clinton Foundation Gala and this was I think in like, maybe, I can't remember what year it was.
2013 or 2014.
And I said, uh, only if I can wear my normal clothes.
And they said it's a black tie affair.
I said, too bad.
And I didn't do it.
Don't care.
The Last Chicken Nugget says, I can't wait for the 20, 30 years from now when a document titled, The New American Civil War magically comes to light.
Yeah, interesting.
The Buzz says, Sidney Powell and Tim Fitton deserve the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
John Burkett says, Tim, shirt tug game on point.
But see, the problem is, no one's ever pointed out the shirt tug thing before, and I've been wearing this shirt for like, what, two years now?
adam crigler
Yep.
Yeah, I don't know.
I did it the night before you guys got back.
tim pool
Yep.
adam crigler
I pointed it out.
lydia smith
This is your fault.
adam crigler
It's my fault.
I don't mind at all.
It becomes a thing now.
Everyone's loving it.
It's great.
tim pool
Ceylon Blue says, did you see the tweets about people in SC that were in a subway with rocket launchers?
Thread had homophobic photo edits on the pics.
X2 double standards.
Yeah, I've seen some of the rocket launcher pics.
Ultimately, if someone's acting legally, I don't know what the problem is.
adam crigler
Is it loaded, though?
tim pool
I think one of the problems, though, is there's absolutely a double standard.
Well, I think, anecdotally, there's a bunch of videos where you can see black people carrying guns and getting stopped, and it's nuts.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
That's why I'm like, dude, we need more, like, the NRA should be 100% on top of this.
adam crigler
Yeah, I agree.
tim pool
I don't think they care.
I think it's tribal, though.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
There's a video where a black dude's walking around with a rifle, and a bunch of SUVs swarm him, and like, get on the ground!
Get on the ground!
I think I've seen this video.
And they're pointing at him, and he lays down to take his gun away.
And then there are videos where there's, like, two guys that walk around with guns, and the police are like, just want to make sure they're not automatic.
All right, you're good.
Good to go.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Now, that could be selective, you know, filming, right?
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
Because there was a video I saw of a white guy with, uh, it was legally a pistol, but it was modified, so as far as, like, the average person could tell from far away, it looked like a rifle.
adam crigler
Yeah, oh, okay.
tim pool
But it was legally a pistol, and so the cops came and stopped him and detained him, and, like, it was a huge issue.
So, you know, I don't know what happens.
Let's see what we got.
Charles says, when it comes to who will win in November, Biden or Trump, I put my money on Vegas.
Totally agree.
I'm shocked he hasn't ripped it yet.
Gotta get it all out!
You know when you like, wind up a toy?
Or like, bring it back?
That's what he does.
Tugs per hour.
Oh, more than that.
You have no idea.
Because when the camera's not on, I'm going like this.
unidentified
It's fun.
Ah!
lydia smith
I'm shocked he hasn't ripped it yet.
tim pool
Gotta get it all out.
adam crigler
Now, you know when you like wind up a toy or like bring it back?
That's what he does every so often.
He needs to reset.
tim pool
I actually have this big glass chamber and I go inside and I have to get all the tugs out,
but it generates a ton of energy, which powers the studio.
lydia smith
It's so cost-effective.
adam crigler
Also powers the beanie.
lydia smith
I love it.
Yeah, it's the best.
Thank you, Tim.
tim pool
Ferocious Cake says, whoa, you guys see this?
U of A professor arrested on charges of ties to China.
I mean, that happens a lot.
lydia smith
Wouldn't be the first.
Yeah, not the first.
tim pool
Mark says, see the White House press conference, I think about five different reporters asked the same question about tests, despite getting the same answers.
It's no wonder Trump walked off.
It's pointless talking to them.
Yup.
And that woman, what's her face from CNN, was arguing with Trump.
Trump's like, not you, her.
And she goes, but I have questions.
No, her.
But I have questions.
Okay, I'm out.
And then he just like walks off.
lydia smith
But she had questions, Tim.
tim pool
Dude, I'd throw them out.
I'd be like, if you say one more word, can you escort them out?
Thank you.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But I guess he can't do that.
He got sued.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
When he took away Jim Acosta's press pass.
unidentified
Oh, man.
tim pool
So, he did the right thing.
I love it.
He's just like, thank you everybody, and he walks away.
adam crigler
I agree.
I agree.
tim pool
It's like, you're not going to listen to me?
adam crigler
You're going to argue with me?
I'm out of here.
tim pool
They argue, we shouldn't show his press events because he's lying.
Then they demanded press events.
Because you stopped them.
Then he brings them back and they say, oh, we can't show this.
He's lying.
It's like, shut up.
You people are awful.
I can't stand these people.
Nicholas says, the Dems running Biden is proof that within the next 25 years, the party will attempt to run an artificial AI candidate.
Black Mirror is here.
I mean, what if they use CGI Joe Biden to debate?
Wouldn't it be funny if like Joe Biden standing on stage and he's not, he's like not really moving.
And then he moves like this.
Well, Trump, I personally disagree.
That'd be great.
unidentified
I'd be like, yes!
adam crigler
Freaky.
tim pool
Like, not even good animatronics, like Chuck E. Cheese level, like 30-year-old banjo-playing Chuck E. Cheese Joe Biden.
Matthew says, Simp is now banned on Twitch.
Wait, the word?
Is it really?
adam crigler
Seriously?
tim pool
ML says, it says a lot about conservative media that my best talking points come from a guy as left as Tim.
You do really do a great service, brother in liberty.
Appreciate it.
NotEisenbear says, can you tug your shirt please?
Nah, get out of here.
LR Design Studios, Lori Sullivan says, the left is becoming irrelevant as more people realize the conversation is on the right and the left only shames and screeches.
I agree.
adam crigler
Conversations.
tim pool
The Grizzly says, did you guys get the new Ikora set in Magic?
I heard they had Godzilla cards in that set.
What kinds of decks would you build?
And who are your favorite Godzilla monsters if you watched the movies?
I haven't, have you?
adam crigler
I haven't played Ikora yet.
I actually just re-downloaded Arena on my computer.
And I was just checking it out.
And Ghidorah?
Is that the Hydra?
Like the multi-headed dragon?
tim pool
No idea.
adam crigler
I think it's...
I don't remember.
That's my favorite Godzilla monster.
tim pool
The multi-headed one.
adam crigler
The multi-headed dinosaur.
Sweet.
tim pool
Hydra dragon thing or what?
adam crigler
Yeah, I forget the name of it though.
But yeah, he's cool.
tim pool
Let's see, let's see.
Cranberry says, our goal, the right, is liberty and tolerance.
So if you can tolerate us and not call us, including liberals and conservatives, evil, God willing.
Nicholas says, Tim, Jesus, Lydia, do you think that in the near future with devices like Neuralink, politics will get more or less divided?
adam crigler
I think less divided.
I don't know.
I think a lot of people are more similar than they let on or want to believe.
tim pool
It's not that.
Once they create, there's two things that will change the world.
Have you seen Altered Carbon?
adam crigler
Oh, Jidra. Yeah. Gidora is the name. Sorry. I was, I was, people in chat were,
tim pool
have you, have you seen Altered Carbon? I have. Yeah. Where they have the cortical
stack that stores their consciousness. Yeah. All of a sudden your body is irrelevant.
Yeah. It's just a sleeve. And you can slip in and out of, and, but so that also plays into the other
idea of virtual worlds. So in Altered Carbon, they have like, they can go into virtual and
there's constructs they can be in. Right. But dude, I'll tell you what, as soon as we have neural link,
which can transmit virtual reality into your brain. So your brain experience experiences Skyrim.
Politics will be over because people will literally be like, bro, bro, I don't care.
Just make sure there's food on my table so I can go back to Skyrim.
adam crigler
I don't agree with that.
tim pool
People are going to want to live in other worlds, man.
adam crigler
Not everybody.
There's gonna be some people that will forever deny Neuralink and will fight it.
tim pool
In 70 years?
adam crigler
You're right.
In 70 years, yeah, maybe.
unidentified
There'll be an older generation like, I'm not getting that thing put in my brain!
tim pool
And then their kids are born.
adam crigler
There might always be that faction though.
tim pool
Yeah, for sure.
Luddites.
They'll exist.
But there's gonna be people who, you know, in a hundred, two hundred years, it'll be a small minority that doesn't.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, even in Altered Carbon, they have the Neo-Catholic.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
That, like, refuse to be re-loaded into new bodies.
For those that aren't familiar with the show, it's basically like, if you die, there's a device in your neck that stores your consciousness, and they can transfer it to a new body.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So that will change a whole lot of our perception about, you know, race and stuff like that.
Gender, but it's not it's not so much about the changing bodies that I'm bringing up.
adam crigler
It's the virtual reality like dude if People are gonna want to live in the in the world where they can control things and be happy and it's like yeah But more about the politics side of it though It's because we're gonna become more connected and and that's really what the question is is whether or not it's gonna be more or less divided and I think it's gonna be less because we're gonna be connected on such a Like, we're already more connected in this, like, the internet right now.
We're connected to a bunch of people who are connected to a bunch of people.
tim pool
But, I think, I would say yes, the problem is the interference from the big companies, the censorship, has created, has made the divide a hundred times worse.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Absolutely, yeah.
unidentified
So, if they created a space... But will they have the same amount of power, though?
adam crigler
It's like, alright, it's time to vote.
You just close your eyes and, you know, you just tell your Neuralink who you're voting for.
Boom.
And that's it.
unidentified
It's like, you know... It'll get really, really, really bad.
tim pool
Really bad.
Because you'll have a bunch of people now be like, oh, I'm gonna vote, just whatever, Democrat.
adam crigler
Because they don't know.
tim pool
They don't know or care.
People aren't going to care.
They're going to think Skyrim.
adam crigler
Unless, to vote, you actually have to watch the video in your head.
tim pool
Nah.
adam crigler
Something like that.
tim pool
What video?
adam crigler
Who knows?
I don't know.
I'm just coming up with something.
tim pool
If everyone, in my opinion, if every single person in the country voted, you'd have a whole bunch of people who don't know, don't care, and don't want to vote voting.
adam crigler
But do you think that they would be the majority?
That whoever they voted for would be the person who got the power then?
Or the people who pay attention are the majority, that they would actually make the decision?
Who do you think, in that sense?
tim pool
The people who don't care, that don't know... Will always win.
adam crigler
Will always win.
tim pool
Always win.
You know why?
Because the politician's gonna say, in order to win, I just need to get all these people who don't care.
You vote for me, and I'll give you a thousand bucks!
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
They're gonna be like, eh, whatever.
adam crigler
But they actually have to care a little bit to even listen to that person say that.
tim pool
So the point is, the guy will just run ads only saying, I'll give you a thousand bucks.
Over and over and over again, everywhere.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And so that way they'll be like, I don't know this other guy, I don't know what he's all about.
Something about, you know, immigration.
The other guy's gonna give me money, so I'll vote for him.
Kind of like Andrew Yang, to be honest.
Although Andrew Yang had a whole lot of really great policies.
Perhaps that's what he was trying for, I don't know.
But what ends up happening is you'll end up with emotional voters versus logical voters.
adam crigler
But you've said it before.
People will walk in and be like, man, I don't know, whatever.
And that's what they're going to end up doing.
They're not going to be out there looking at ads, watching TV, looking at the ads.
tim pool
No.
Their friends are going to be like, you're voting for a Democrat.
And they'll go, oh yeah, sure.
adam crigler
Okay.
Oh, you're voting for a Republican?
tim pool
okay. But no, but urban centers with dense populations like the popular vote, it's why
we have the Electoral College. Okay. So I guess if we maintain an Electoral College,
that could have a serious impact on how the vote, you know, works. Okay. But if it were,
so I guess, yeah, I guess that's what it really comes down to. For the most part, though,
I think Republicans tend to be engaged, at least what we're seeing right now. Okay. The right is
people who are debating and challenging and things like that. And the left is a bunch of emotional
people who aren't paying attention. Like, dude, I got to be honest. Okay. If I guarantee you 90%
of my friends who do vote Democrat, if I actually sat down with them for 10 minutes, they wouldn't.
And I'd be like, I'm not.
adam crigler
And that's what happened to me.
But for real.
tim pool
So think about the millions of Democrat voters who have no idea what's going on and just go Democrat.
adam crigler
Whatever.
tim pool
No idea.
And then what do they do for the past three years?
Scandal, scandal, scandals.
Getting nothing done.
No issues.
adam crigler
But I don't think you're taking into the what Neuralink will become in 70 years, 100 years.
It's not, you're almost not going to be able to just be clueless on what's happening because you're going to be connected.
It'll be, I mean, I mean, I guess I'm making, I'm making, yeah, but not inside, in my brain.
Like that's a, that's like another level of connected that we don't even understand yet.
tim pool
There's not gonna be a point where you won't have that choice.
Unless you're talking about the Borg.
Then the Borg, there would be no vote.
It would be a constant buzz.
So if we have Neuralink, then you would basically be like, you'd be sitting there and you'd
think Twitter and then the thing would pop up and you'd be looking at it in your mind.
You'd be choosing to do these things.
adam crigler
Yeah, but that's a good point though, the whole Borg thing.
That's kind of what I'm trying to lean towards.
It's like, sure, it might not be like one voiceless, you know, whirr in our head that you don't really know what's happening, but if all of us are, every single person is like engaging and That's what Twitter is.
Yeah, but Twitter, as you told me, is only like, what, 2% of the population?
tim pool
Those 2% of people who are active and engaged on Twitter are ripping each other's heads off and at war.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
So what do you think would happen if you plugged everybody into that war?
You'd have a civil war in two seconds.
adam crigler
Or the majority would be like, you small minority over there, and you small minority over there, shut up.
tim pool
Nope.
adam crigler
Because- That could happen though, you can't just say nope.
tim pool
Yes I can, because we have- Okay, fly.
adam crigler
We have nope you back.
unidentified
Nope.
tim pool
We have every historical reference to say that you're wrong.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
In the Revolutionary War- But we're not there yet.
adam crigler
In the Revolutionary War- They weren't connected in their brains, this is a whole nother thing we're not- we don't understand yet because we're not there.
tim pool
Dude, it doesn't matter if one person takes a gun and goes and starts shooting people, and then someone else reacts to it, the majority can say no, all they want, it won't change what's happening.
Okay, so when the majority in the rebel in the colony said no to war and the revolutionary said we're doing it anyway, right?
They did it anyway, okay so if you have everybody plugged in and 70% of people are saying everyone shut up will stop then someone's gonna be like I'm being oppressed and they're gonna go out and do something nuts and the other faction is like we warned you all and you told us to stop and now look what's happening and that's literally what's going on with Twitter and Facebook and YouTube and Okay.
Even though the majority of people are saying Kanye West, Kim Kardashian, leave me alone,
the warring factions are still showing up in the street, punching each other,
and everything's still going nuts. So even if you connected everybody into everyone's minds,
it's always most people who say no, stop, I don't want to be involved,
and then a small handful of crazies pick up arms and go nuts, and it drags everybody into it.
adam crigler
Yeah, I'm not saying that that can't happen.
Sure.
That's not what I was saying.
I'm saying that there is still the possibility of what I said to come true.
We don't understand.
Neuralink is something that's going to bring us all together on a different level that we don't understand yet.
tim pool
I think it's fair to say that we don't know what the full effects will be if we're fully plugged in.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But I also think it's fair to point out the precursor is things like Twitter.
adam crigler
Sure.
tim pool
Where we can see what happens when large swaths of the population are placed into this virtual political space.
adam crigler
I still feel like the Twitterverse is not the... We're still kind of figuring it out.
We gotta wait like 10 more years to really understand what it's doing to us as a society, as a whole.
You know what I mean?
Like, what you're just saying right there, it's like, still, only 2% of the population are on Twitter.
Not everybody's on Twitter.
tim pool
Look at the data from LexisNexis going back to 2008.
Okay.
Where words like, phrases like, critical race theory, social justice, feminism, racism, skyrocketed, like, several, like, just thousands of times.
adam crigler
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
Thousand-fold plus.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Whereas the news used to say racism, you know, like, 10 times a month, it now says it a million times a month.
adam crigler
Right, exactly.
We're that much more connected.
tim pool
Now plug everyone into that.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And they will go insane in seconds.
adam crigler
Right, but it's also the people that are making those things trend are not fully knowledgeable about everything that's happening.
tim pool
They don't care.
They want money.
adam crigler
Right, the specifics of them, but as a whole, I don't know if I agree with that.
tim pool
You plug everybody in, and you're still going to have 80% of people saying,
I don't care, and I'm not paying attention. And then of the small factions, you're going to have
people vying for influence, lying and manipulating to gain that influence. Then you will see all of
these people right now who don't read Vox and BuzzFeed, now they're plugged into it, and the
access is substantially easier, and it can just appear in front of them or whatever the circumstance
is where they can just know it. And now you've rapidly hyperpolarized all of the masses.
adam crigler
But at the same time, right now, we're seeing this shift where people are starting to look over at those people and be like, actually, you're not right.
Actually, you seem pretty ignorant on what's actually going on, and you're just screaming.
And, you know, we're already seeing a shift.
It's already changing.
tim pool
Maybe, but the problem is, Okay.
300 people went out January 20th, 2017, starting fires and throwing bricks and running through
the streets of D.C.
OK.
In a town of millions of people, it takes only hundreds to destabilize everything.
During Occupy Wall Street, it took one pepper spraying to spark a national movement.
So if you have most people saying enough, perhaps what could happen is these establishment
resistance types get backed into a corner and then snap.
And then say our only opportunity is to go nuts because we've lost all our power.
First of all, I think if you have Neuralink, you're not going to get people forced to do anything, which means they'll still ignore everything.
It basically just means that you've got your phone in your head.
Well, people still don't use Twitter, even though they can use their phone to get it if they wanted to.
adam crigler
That's like level one Neuralink.
Yes.
tim pool
So then at what point do people lose their free will?
adam crigler
That's a good point.
That's a good question.
tim pool
It's not going to happen.
The moment Neuralink flips on a switch where it says we're taking your free will, there will be riots, explosions, and humanity will eat itself alive.
adam crigler
I agree.
tim pool
So, there's going to be a lot of people who reject it.
There's going to be, you know, Luddites and people who refuse to get it.
It could be 100 or 200 years when most people are totally fine with it, and then they implement the The evil overlord presses the button and activates no free will or something.
But there will always be some people who won't wire in.
And then they'll go arm up.
And then... That'll be it.
Then some people will see some things and it'll change and disrupt.
I don't think that we can... It's very likely that right now, based on what Neuralink is, we're gonna have a Borg situation.
Where people lose free will.
Which means, even if you're wired in, I don't gotta listen to what you have to say.
People would go insane.
Could you imagine trying to sit down and watch a movie and you hear someone screeching?
adam crigler
Definitely not.
I couldn't handle that.
tim pool
So then why would anyone do it different from what Twitter already is?
I think what Neuralink will do is if we get to the point where we can actually project
experiences into your brain, then people will just buy experiences like video games.
adam crigler
So it'll be gone.
tim pool
You get to act, right, exactly.
You get to actually be in this world.
People will be like, I go to, you know what they'll do?
You put in the Neuralink, you send yourself to the beach while your body just goes to
the motions doing the job.
Think about that.
If we get to that point, and then you, like, come to and you're like, wow, I just worked eight hours and I don't even remember.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
I was at the beach.
Just chilling.
Virtual reality.
All right, here's what we're going to do.
We're going to start speeding up to the super chat, so I apologize.
adam crigler
Oh, we're already 10 minutes over.
tim pool
Yeah, we're way over.
adam crigler
Well, we kind of went on a tangent there.
unidentified
That was great.
adam crigler
I couldn't help myself.
tim pool
But I do think that we actually might have to super speed through because we literally have like a couple hundred super chats.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
lydia smith
Thank you so much, everyone.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
adam crigler
Thank you, everybody.
tim pool
Let's go for it.
adam crigler
You guys are fantastic.
lydia smith
Overwhelmed.
tim pool
Oh, man, there is so much.
adam crigler
That was a lot of fun to debate you there, Tim.
unidentified
It was good.
tim pool
It's always good to have a little conflict on the show.
Alexander says, letting people starve to death was the second thing that happened after the Russian Revolution.
That is, after they put the farmers in camps.
Sean says, sending some of my Trump bucks to recommend that the lady crochets a beanie for the top of that UFO.
Also, what do you think about underwater farming and livable habitats?
Um, Bioshock.
Totally down.
adam crigler
I don't know if Underwater, but they are actually working on these floating islands that are self-sustaining universities.
What?
Yeah, they're actually colleges that are really, it's like the beginning of it, but they're making it a school, so it's kind of cool.
Well, they get the funding, I'm sure it's a lot easier.
Basically, it's a fully self-sustaining island that has everything you can think of.
It's pretty cool.
tim pool
We can make biodomes in jars.
You ever see those things?
adam crigler
Yeah.
I've actually been to the biodome.
tim pool
Oh, really?
The real one?
adam crigler
Yeah, the real one.
It's in Arizona.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
There's two, aren't there?
adam crigler
I've been to Biodome, too.
I don't know if the first one still exists or where it is.
tim pool
It failed, though, didn't it?
Like, they tried to do it?
adam crigler
No, they were in there for a few years.
Oh, wow, really?
Yeah.
tim pool
They made a movie about it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Pauly Shore was there.
adam crigler
Biodome.
tim pool
Biodome.
Jack says, wait, so we don't get to have a civil war?
Well, we'll see, I guess.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Mike says, Seattle port cop fired for speaking out against tyranny.
Thoughts?
Shame. Hey, if he's speaking out against tyranny, firing him, doing the right thing.
Free Nation says, what's your take on the silence of climate change activists through all this?
We've shut down the global economy. You'd figure they'd be lauding the impact,
putting aside Venice canals just on CO2 because they don't want to accept that
all the misery coming from this is what they were proposing.
Hammer says, please stop giving Jon Stewart credit for a format
that Rush Limbaugh created in 1992-96.
Kilbourn was the first host in 96 of the show, then Stewart in 98.
Rush first at Comedy Politics TV.
I'm not saying Jon Stewart created it.
I'm saying that back in the day we trusted him because he was honest about it.
adam crigler
Yeah, but was Rush on the left, though?
Wasn't he a Republican?
Yeah.
Right, so you were saying that John was leading on the left, who was intellectually honest and funny.
Right, right, right.
tim pool
And now we've lost those thought leaders, so you're left with a weird husk of emotionally reactive leftists.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's not the same.
tim pool
Maris says, this lockdown reminds me of the story of Killdozer.
Tread on those who tread on you.
adam crigler
Yikes.
unidentified
Mm.
tim pool
Keys says, Ree, love the show and love the fact that you are based in facts.
Being a black conservative, I know the struggles of trying to communicate with the left.
Appreciate you guys and your honesty.
Appreciate it.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Hudson says, I don't think the Arbery saga and the subsequent fake news and hate crime hoax is going to reinforce tribalism on partisan lines.
It's probably designed to instigate race riots.
And it might.
adam crigler
Yeah, maybe.
tim pool
Yes!
I heard a rumor that they're actually making a TV series.
because Adam likes Wheel of Time, the greatest series of all time.
Keep up the good work, guys.
Oh, there you go.
See, shout out the book.
adam crigler
I did hear, I heard a rumor that they're actually making a TV series.
I don't know how I feel about it, but if they mess it up, I'm gonna be pissed.
tim pool
They're working on this lineup.
adam crigler
They better do it right.
tim pool
They're gonna inject a bunch of weird feminism stuff into it.
lydia smith
That's what they're doing behind.
adam crigler
I heard about that actually.
With what?
lydia smith
With a series that I really love.
adam crigler
Which one?
lydia smith
The Terry Pratchett series, the Discworld series.
Messing it up.
tim pool
It's what happens, man.
Let's see, Darth Zeketh says, did you hear about the police officer Greg Anderson in Washington that got fired for a YouTube video speaking out about liberty and integrity?
There's a GoFundMe.
I will check that out.
I think I saw that video.
Big Daddy says, do you guys ever struggle with the thought of maybe being annoying to close friends or family for having political opinions and really like talking about controversial subjects?
I feel it a lot.
I don't talk to my family about these things.
adam crigler
Nope, I don't care what people think about me.
Or talk, like, whatever.
I give my family my honest opinion.
I give my friends my honest opinion.
I give you my honest opinion.
That's all I can say.
tim pool
It's annoying when you talk their ears off and they don't care.
But I'll tell you what, if someone came to me and said, Hey, I heard that Trump did a backflip and he didn't, I'd be like, well, that's, he didn't do a backflip.
I can show you the article if you're interested.
Otherwise we can go have pizza.
It's up to you.
And if they're like, well, I'll be like, look, if you want to have an argument about whether he did or didn't, we can.
I think it's kind of boring, but I'm telling you he didn't.
adam crigler
I bet a lot of my family is really stoked that I'm like more in line with Trump now than I was ever before.
tim pool
Cause they're, cause Arizona conservatives or what?
unidentified
No, no, no.
adam crigler
My family in, in Illinois.
tim pool
Oh, are they Illinois conservatives?
adam crigler
Probably.
I would say that.
tim pool
I mean, outside of Chicago, it's all Republican.
adam crigler
They're in the burbs.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Yeah.
unidentified
Let's see.
tim pool
Let's see.
Omniplex says, if you love Wheel of Time, you'll love Brandon Sanderson's collection of novels, collectively known as the Cosmere.
I'd highly recommend starting with Mistborn by my favorite author.
adam crigler
I've read them all.
tim pool
Have you really?
adam crigler
Well, Brandon Sanderson finished The Wheel of Time, because Robert Jordan died before he could finish it.
Although he did write the last book, or the end war anyway, but it was great.
And that's how I found Brandon Sanderson, and I read all of his stuff.
He's great.
unidentified
Nice.
tim pool
That was pretty good.
nicotine like caffeine is used in plants as an insecticide and was widely used as
this in the past it is it is not known as an antiviral Aaron Garcia says because the Shapiro impression was spot-on
lol it was it nice I was pretty good JT says love the show guys keep it
the good work for whoever is looking for a good book I highly recommend the
Licanius trilogy by James Islington cool Jackson says first time catching the
live Normally watch on 1.5 speed.
Speak faster.
adam crigler
How's that?
tim pool
Local Costco replaced meats with the tofu deli meat.
Supermarkets still have meat, so maybe it's a quality issue.
There are no chicks with Ds.
Johnny only dudes with Bobs.
adam crigler
Wow, that was good.
unidentified
That was great.
tim pool
Auctioneer.
Jackson, your revenge says, movie to watch, fight club, manga to read, berserk, game to play, RDR2.
People to love, all kinds, freedom to give up, none.
adam crigler
Red Dead 2 is really good.
tim pool
Bastion's mom says to finish The Expanse, need another recommendation.
Also Rhea, Revelations by Michael J. Sullivan is an amazing book series for those looking for something good to read.
adam crigler
Man, The Expanse was a good show.
tim pool
It was a good show.
adam crigler
I don't have anything offhand.
tim pool
It's really funny because people are always like, on the Jogan podcast, they said, that guy talks really fast, he's gotta be on uppers.
It's like, dude, I try really hard to speak slower.
adam crigler
Yeah.
This is his natural tone.
tim pool
But I am not, I am on no uppers other than, I guess right now, caffeine.
lydia smith
Coffee, yeah.
adam crigler
Yeah, you do drink coffee.
tim pool
But I drink less than the average person.
adam crigler
Yeah, I guess so, huh?
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
You drink one cup in the morning, is that right?
tim pool
It's two cups.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah.
It's because I do a big glass.
But the average person drinks like four a day, I think, or some ridiculous number.
Maybe I'm wrong.
adam crigler
Four cups a day?
tim pool
Because they have... I drink two cups.
Because they have two in the morning and then two in the afternoon or something like that.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
I just have... I've been doing this oatmeal coffee.
It's actually a little bit less than, I think, technically... No, I think it's about two cups of coffee.
Yeah.
But that's... I just talk fast, man.
adam crigler
Yes, you do.
tim pool
Action Bob says, Tim, I beg you, stop conflating the thin blue line with code of silence.
Thin blue line is the border between the lawful and the criminal.
Don't cross the line is an admonition to stay honorable.
I will keep that in mind in the future.
I appreciate it.
Doctor Doctor says, what is your opinion on objectivism as a philosophy to live by?
I am not super familiar with objectivism, but I understand it's like similar to libertarianism?
I don't know.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Nope Nope says, did you guys see the Seattle police officer who made the video telling cops to adhere to the constitution and protect citizens' rights has been fired.
Seattle PD basically proved his whole point.
Good for him.
Good for him.
I'm sad to see him get fired.
That's BS.
And I hope, I hope he does well.
adam crigler
Well, he went against the gang, basically.
tim pool
They're like, whoa, you're out.
How dare you try to uphold his oath to the Constitution?
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Matt Diff says, a decade ago, the left was messing with chemical execution supplies to try and kill it.
States were looking for other chemical options, and the left sued, trying to stay cruel and unusual.
Interesting.
That was from Matt Diff.
Paxton Fairbanks says, Utah used firing squads for the religious reason of blood atonement and was the last state to execute someone with a firing squad.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yikes.
Eastshore says, I'm being retested now and I live with my dad.
He is positive.
I take care of him and work isn't paying.
I'm salary.
They have a manager in my place but not telling me if I can come back.
Should I file for unemployment?
I would assume so.
adam crigler
Right?
Yeah.
Why wouldn't you try at least?
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Right?
tim pool
Vivian says, how do you think people will react when they don't get their jobs back?
By the way, Department of Labor statistics show 22.8% unemployment when looking at the U6 and not the U3.
And there's a link.
Interesting.
Um, I think people will lose purpose and then seek to get that purpose from somewhere.
And that can get really dangerous.
I think that could lead to an escalation of conflict.
adam crigler
I think people have already lost their purpose.
tim pool
But, like, people need it.
adam crigler
I know they do.
tim pool
So they're gonna start getting extremely politically active.
adam crigler
I agree.
tim pool
And that can get bad.
adam crigler
Or good.
tim pool
I don't think it could be good.
Because there's no outlet.
adam crigler
If more people become politically active?
tim pool
Where's their outlet right now?
Demanding a reopening?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
That could make them way more conservative.
So, maybe that results in them reopening, I guess would be a good thing.
Featherfall says the reason the big cities in Texas are blue is due to West Coasters moving here for the lower living costs they otherwise couldn't afford in Cal.
They moved to cities because they refused to live in the bush.
Lubbock, Texas rep.
Actually I heard, I think I heard this from Ben Shapiro, that in Texas the Republicans are mostly from out of state.
Did you see the same thing?
lydia smith
No, I hadn't heard that.
tim pool
Maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe I am wrong.
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
Slosher says, Tim, have you ever read Ayn Rand?
Your story about refusing to go to Black Tie event because you would have to compromise makes you sound like you're one of her characters.
adam crigler
Huh.
tim pool
Maybe we're all in this book.
Bioshock was awesome.
Bukalik says, I started watching your videos after the Rogan show and I have to say, if every news agency were as honest in reporting facts as you, fake news wouldn't be a thing.
I wish.
Yeah.
BadassTutor says, Tim Pool, the most conservative non-conservative.
No, I mean, look at Adam.
You've been a bit more conservative on certain things than me.
adam crigler
I mean, I guess so.
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, it just like everybody's got some left, some right, some more than others.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
That's what I'm saying.
It's like I agree with some both sides and I disagree with mostly the left.
tim pool
Alright, let's see, now where were we?
We just had that big ol' jump happen.
adam crigler
Oh man, another jump, huh?
tim pool
Oh yeah, I love it.
It's great.
adam crigler
Thanks everybody, I really appreciate you guys hanging out with us.
lydia smith
Yeah, it's really fun.
adam crigler
I know, we're 20 minutes over.
unidentified
Oh wow.
lydia smith
Oh man.
tim pool
Alright, I have no idea.
Okay, okay, I went too far, okay.
Let's see, let's see, where are we?
unidentified
Oh, by now I'd have a glass of whiskey, I'd be playing... No, super chats are way better.
tim pool
Let's see.
Ah, here we are.
Here we are.
Andrew Nelson says, Captain, Tim Luke Picard of the starship Beanie Prize, infamous around the galaxy for his shirt-tugging.
Just like Jean-Luc.
adam crigler
That's great.
tim pool
Let's see.
Where are we now?
Where are we now?
St.
Miles says, Joe Max Headroom Biden.
Doctor says, also within two days of making a Twitter account and getting over 4,000 unique impressions on a comment on one of your tweets, they de-boosted me censorship is real.
Oh yeah, for sure.
They want to stop new accounts from starting up like that.
Jeez.
Spartacus says, thanks for all you do, Tim.
You're my Walter Cronkite.
I hope you understand how important what you do is for us in the absence of a fourth estate.
There are a lot of other people who do well, too.
I just hope more people try to do their best.
Flood says, Trump I say.
There you go, Trump I say!
Haywood says, if Neuralink makes us smarter, we will be more united because there won't be any more leftists.
adam crigler
Ah, that's a good one.
unidentified
Zing!
tim pool
Jeff Brock, thanks for the super chat.
Henrik, thanks for becoming a member.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Thomas Lorbiter says, I like Monster Hunter International.
adam crigler
Haven't played it.
tim pool
Is that an anime?
adam crigler
I thought it was a game.
Oh yeah.
tim pool
Raven, thanks for the super chat.
Azazel says, upload an Amazon Prime series is a good time.
I saw that.
I didn't know if I was going to watch it.
All Metal Mike says, where is the ACLU crickets?
Oh no.
No, they're just focused on leftist social justice stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Austin Laverty says, who wants to go to Wuhan Wild Wings for dinner and beers when this is over?
lydia smith
Thank you!
tim pool
One of the first places I'm going is B-dubs.
I think I'm good.
I'm straight up B-dubs.
adam crigler
What's B-dubs?
tim pool
Buffalo Wild Wings.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Oh, man.
adam crigler
No, I'm going to Blackbird.
Get my own wings.
tim pool
You get your wings, I'll get my wings, we'll get wings.
I love me some wings.
adam crigler
I love me some wings.
lydia smith
Did he?
tim pool
Flip says the social media companies have become the meme you facetwit.
Yep.
Trouble Down says thoughts on Bezos buying AMC theaters?
I'm 100% for it.
Hope you're all staying safe.
Thank you for all you do.
adam crigler
I mean...
Is that a thing?
tim pool
I haven't heard that.
I welcome it, but I also don't like it because Bezos has too much.
Amazon's buying too much.
adam crigler
It's getting too big.
tim pool
They're going to overpower everything.
But I like the idea of like, man, when Bezos steps in, he really does ramp up the technology, you know, on like Whole Foods and stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Cerilio says, y'all going to do me like that.
I don't usually catch the live show, but I greatly enjoy Tim and Adam's differing opinions.
Variety is crucial.
I completely agree.
unidentified
Nice.
lydia smith
Absolutely.
tim pool
Well, we've gone way over.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's funny though, we're born two days apart.
Well, I mean, I'm older than him by a few years, but your birthday is two days after mine.
Yeah.
And it's funny, we're very similar on many things, but we're very different on many things also.
tim pool
That's just like normal people.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
As simple as it gets, man.
All right, let's see what we got.
We got a couple more Super Chats we'll read to them.
Nugget says, if you love Brandon Sanderson, I recommend the lit RPG genre books like Ascend Online and Awaken Online.
The lit RPG genre is about virtual reality.
adam crigler
Sounds really cool.
Yeah, I'll have to check that out.
tim pool
Chris Egleton says, when can we expect a Harumph t-shirt?
When the beanies come, I suppose.
We'll get on it.
Jeff Dewar says, I work at Costco and was told to go home if I didn't wear a mask.
Went home early that day.
Well, we're about ready to wrap up.
So if you haven't already, smash that like button.
Let's get 50 million likes.
Tell YouTube we are the best.
lydia smith
Like it.
tim pool
Thank you all for the super chat.
adam crigler
And subscribe.
And follow me.
lydia smith
Tell your friends too.
tim pool
Follow both of us.
adam crigler
Twitter and Instagram and YouTube.
You can find my channel.
tim pool
But follow Adam because you can send him stories.
So while I'm doing my thing throughout the day, Adam's getting your suggestions that when you come and do this live show, we talk about your ideas.
adam crigler
And I just tweeted something out, so hit me up.
unidentified
Boom.
tim pool
There it is.
And it is what?
It's Monday, right?
lydia smith
It is Monday.
tim pool
We will see you all tomorrow at 8 p.m.
Thanks for hanging out.
We will see you all next time.
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