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Nov. 5, 2021 - RFK Jr. The Defender
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Medical Tyranny in Australia with Dr Judy Wilyman

Dr Judy Wilyman discusses current events in Australia with RFK Jr.

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Hey everybody, my guest today is Judy Weilman, who is an activist and a PhD researcher from Australia, who's been on the front lines of activism against this imposition of totalitarian controls, which I think is probably more acute in Australia than any country, at least, that I know of in the world.
And really, I wanted to talk to you about that and get some kind of explanation about why you think that Australia, you know, the other place that is happening is another British colony, which is Canada.
And Canada had a reputation prior to the pandemic.
As being kind of on the forefront of human freedom, human dignity, an advocate of civil rights, an advocate of fairness and justice, and it made this kind of lockstep pivot into really, you know,
this Can you talk about, you know, Australia probably is worse, and why is this happening in Australia as opposed to other nations in Western Europe, Germany or Italy?
It's happening everywhere, but with more intensity in Australia than we see any place else in Europe.
Yeah, I'd have to agree with you.
I think the totalitarianism has definitely come into play over here in Australia.
And I don't know whether it's because we're some kind of litmus test for the rest of the world in bringing in the new agenda.
I do know that this whole issue of the vaccines and the coercive programs that Australia's put into place is all based on corruption.
And so the only way to implement it is through some kind of fascist regime.
And that's why freedom of speech disappeared literally Five to ten years ago in Australia on this particular issue, it became very obvious to us speaking up that we were being censored in council buildings.
With my academic research, I wasn't allowed to present it.
Defamed and slandered in the media.
So, I mean, if we look at the bigger picture of what's being put in place, you know, it's this vaccine passport that they want to put in place and then they want to link that to a digital financial system.
And the digital identity, all those things are trying to be put in place in Australia.
And of course, they've just implemented coercive vaccination where they're removing people from their jobs if they don't take this injection.
And of course, the injection is having huge adverse events.
As you know, the myocarditis, the pericarditis, the people dying suddenly in their sleep, the bell pauses, it's happening everywhere.
And yet they've attempted to remove people from their jobs, which they're doing.
And literally terrorising the public.
Literally everybody in Australia at the moment is.
Families are divorcing.
They're arguing.
There are people with kids that are talking of suicide.
It's gone through the roof.
And I can promise you here in Western Australia, you know, there is no disease in the community whatsoever.
The public doesn't have a voice in the government.
They're not listening.
And that's because they don't have to on this vaccination issue.
They actually don't have to listen to all the overwhelming evidence we produce.
Because as you know, they reversed the precautionary principle on any drug called a vaccine.
And so the onus of proof of harmlessness is on the general public now.
And so for decades, they haven't had to prove safety of any drug called a vaccine.
And that's why they're not doing so now.
And of course, now...
Instead of them acknowledging that genetics is the reason why you can't give any drug in a population because the health outcome will be determined by people's genetics, they're now using genetics as the reason why people are getting sick after getting the injection.
So that's how evil the agenda is.
Australians are being terrorised at this point in time, and I never thought something so blatant could be implemented and the public be terrorised by those politicians in the way we're being terrorised.
And we're all watching these really horrifying videos of police kicking down doors.
One case dragging on a pregnant woman because she tweeted that there was a demonstration.
I guess that kind of speech is now illegal speech.
In Australia, we see the police response is very, very brutal.
A kind of black shirt police response to public demonstrations.
The statements I've seen by the political leaders are really alarming.
Will you talk about what's happening there?
Yes.
Different things are happening in different states.
And with the police brutality, Victoria was the state that was locked down most heavily and for the longest.
That was right at the beginning of the pandemic, but they have had, you know, the longest lockdown of any country, I believe.
So they've brought down these heavy-handed tactics to bring in their vaccine passports.
And I believe that Victoria was used as, you know, a test case to frighten the public to make...
The only reason people are complying is because the government's put $20,000 fine on an individual for not wearing a mask or for not social distancing.
And the businesses are now being told they'll get fined $100,000 if they have workers on their premises that aren't vaccinated.
So I think the police brutality was used to frighten the public across Australia.
And the brutality hasn't been the same in every state, but then that's also because some states haven't been locked down as heavily as others.
So at this point in time, we have New South Wales, where they've brought in the regulation where unvaccinated people are now no longer allowed to go to the shops in Sydney.
They're restricted to their homes, even bushwalking and things.
You know, the clubs are saying you've got to be vaccinated.
That also, I believe, is in place in Victoria.
The medical apartheid is already in.
I believe Queensland is partly there.
States like where I am, Western Australia, where there's no COVID risk whatsoever, our Premier, who has full control of the Parliament, there's no opposition anymore because of the way the election went.
And he's just stated that 75% of our workforce must be vaccinated by the 31st of January.
So they're just pushing full on ahead with this vaccine passport.
And yes, we have heard premiers state that the quarantine camps that they're building, and there's at least four or five of them being built, they will be for the unvaccinated.
And so that's the terror that Australians are feeling at the moment.
We can't leave our country.
And this vaccine passport and the digital identity is already being passed through the parliament.
And we don't have a voice anymore in our parliament.
It really does feel like a police state.
We're not quite sure how far into the police state we are, but certainly we don't have freedom to speak.
The independent media is coming, but the mainstream media is fully corporate sponsored and that narrative has been hard to break.
And of course, because I've been debating this topic for over a decade, you know, I'm fully aware that the industry-funded lobby groups, we've got the Australian sceptics here, And we've got a lobby group called the Friends of Science in Medicine.
And these groups took over our media outlets over the last decade.
And they have full control of the narrative on the vaccination debate.
And they slander any professional who speaks up.
You know, their reputations get destroyed on social media and in the mainstream media.
And that's why people have stopped speaking up.
And I will mention at this point, Robert, that in 2009...
Which was the year that I started presenting my research at conferences and also challenging vaccine advisory boards on the whooping cough vaccine efficacy.
It was in 2009 that the government set up a medical regulatory board, which is called the Australian Health Practitioners Regulatory Board.
And this board is controlled by the government.
So the government is designing vaccination policy and they're controlling the knowledge that doctors are allowed to With respect to vaccine adverse events, vaccine ingredients, you know, and the efficacy of vaccines and even genetics,
it's enabled the pharmaceutical companies to reverse the principle of medicine, the number one principle of medicine that requires that every drug is given to an individual with respect to their own particular circumstances and genetics.
Well, doctors can no longer do that.
And they can no longer put their patients' best interests first because we have a medical board that has government influence in the regulation of doctors.
So until we get rid of the government influence in what doctors can say on vaccines and infectious diseases, then the pharmaceutical companies have full control of the public on this issue and the policies on this issue.
You know, Australia has always been very, very radical about Before any other nation, about the censorship of vaccines, about imposing these no-jab-no-pay policies, which restrict public funding, like jobs, unemployment benefits, those kind of benefits to anybody unless they've had the vaccination.
And part of the reason for that, as I understand it, It is the control of the press by one individual, Rupert Murdoch, who controls the newspaper outlets in Australia at most of the election.
Well, and Murdoch also owns one of the largest vaccine companies, a company that runs clinical trials for all of the major, you know, for GlaxoSmithKline and Merck and Pfizer, and it's dependent on deals that it's making with those companies.
And so, Promoting vaccines.
And he has made that policy very, very early on before the rest of the world began experiencing it.
The predominant policy over even constitutional rights in Australia.
It's interesting because in our country, at least at the moment, it is some of the Murdoch-controlled news outlets like Fox News, which have been willing to challenge the orthodoxy.
You know, I'm just wondering how you read that and what you think about that.
Yeah, I must admit, because I saw that as well, but it's very clear in Australia.
The no jab, no pay, play policies.
It was actually promoted through the News Corp, Murdoch Media.
And these policies were pushed through social services.
They didn't go through the Health Act.
There's no coercion in Australia.
Every vaccine is required to be given with fully informed consent.
And there's no, in the Health Act, it says vaccines must be voluntary.
So they got around that by pushing it through social services departments, whereby they called it Choices for Families.
In fact, they were removing choices for families because, you know, any child under five now can no longer go to preschool unless they've had 16 vaccines.
And in fact, welfare benefits, they linked $28,000 to welfare benefits.
So the parents would have needed to use every one of the vaccines that was on the program to actually get those benefits.
So that's what they call choice.
They've removed people's choice with this policy, but they called it Choices for Families, pushed it through social services, and bribed people with our human rights, our human rights for bodily autonomy.
And Murdoch Media was prominent in that.
They also, as you said, they run the biggest vaccine research and development institution at the Murdoch Children's Research Institute.
Now, interestingly, for that decade, From 2005 to 2015, the head of our ATAGI, Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation, the vaccine board, where the chairman actually recommends which vaccines should be put on the schedule directly to the health minister.
The head of that board was Terry Nolan.
And Terry Nolan was the head of Murdoch's research program at the Murdoch Children's Research Institute.
He implemented it in 1990.
So he set it up in 1990.
And then he was there until 2005.
So for 15 years, he headed Murdoch's Children's Research Institute program.
He then became the chairman of the Australian Technical Advisory Group for 10 years, 2005 to 2015.
And at the same time, he was the deputy chair of our National Health and Medical Research Council.
And in that role, he had control of the funding.
So he could control government funding into vaccine research.
And of course, it didn't go into the area of safety or into my study as an independent researcher of the possible link between the vaccines and children's health.
I didn't get a grant from the government during that period.
So Terry Nolan, for a decade, was in charge of recommending vaccines directly to the health minister and controlling the funding of our vaccination research in Australia.
And you can defund an area of science, therefore you don't have hard evidence to support your claims.
And if you've removed liability from a drug in 1986, every drug that went onto the market was never needed to be proven safe.
They could just claim safety and efficacy.
And if you control the funding, then you defund that area of science and there's no hard evidence to suggest otherwise.
And as you know, with an epidemiological study, you can choose the parameters to make whatever conclusion you want.
And so the government's way of rewriting the history of vaccines was to literally state, well, vaccines controlled these diseases.
And They also state that you must look at the recent studies, not the historical studies, which is completely false, because particularly when you're using only epidemiological studies.
So what happens with these recent studies is, as you know, the conclusions never match the study design, because the study isn't designed properly to provide the conclusion they've got.
But they'll make a conclusion, and most people just look at the conclusion, and that's used to claim safety and efficacy.
But in actual fact, it's this historical data that people need to see because it's the knowledge that we had in 1950 of how we removed the risk of infectious diseases that's so critical to this issue.
I'll just make the point here that by 1950 in all developed countries, risk had been removed and risk is deaths and hospitalisations.
In the cases of any infectious disease in a developed country after 1950, And we're talking influenza, whooping cough and measles.
Cases were no longer considered an issue.
In Australia, we removed the notifications of these cases, so doctors were not required any longer to notify of cases because they were subclinical, actually asymptomatic, or mild in 99.9% of cases.
So that was influenza, measles and whooping cough, all removed from the National Notifiable Disease List in 1950.
And all the public health officials state, you can only determine risk of an infectious disease from hospitalisations and deaths after 1950.
Cases they knew were mild and asymptomatic because of our public health measures.
In Australia, they're frightening people with cases, cases, cases.
We don't have any high deaths to COVID in Australia, never had, not even last year.
And as in most countries, it was a normal flu year.
So...
This is what has happened.
Australians are only being frightened with cases, hundreds of cases.
We must remove this idea that cases of influenza can be used to frighten the public about a pandemic.
It's being falsely now, the narrative is now claiming that unvaccinated people are going to be the cause of this disease when there's been no proof of this injection preventing any disease at all.
Yeah, I mean, in our country, Which is, most of these was infectious diseases by 1960, and the disease themselves continued to occur, but they weren't incurring mortalities.
That's correct, and that's where the natural immunity comes from.
And measles was, at the beginning of the century, was killing 10,000 kids a year.
By 1963, it was killing 400, and virtually all of those Were children who were severely malnourished, particularly low in vitamin A. Most of them, a large bulk of them, had intellectual disabilities because of malnutrition.
They were black children from the Mississippi Delta.
This is at a time before we had the poverty programs in our country, the War on Poverty.
My father visited the Mississippi Delta in 1965.
And then launched the WICS program so that we wouldn't have these starving children anymore.
But almost all the kids were starving.
If you give kids good nutrition, you eliminate infectious disease mortality.
The disease is still there, but it's a harmless rash.
And that's what we were, you know, measles was a rash.
When I got it as a kid, my 11 brothers and sisters got it.
It was a rash.
We stayed home for a week and we watched it.
And, you know, it was a party.
The same thing with chickenpox, the same thing with mumps, the same thing with pertussis, whooping cough.
And then we had the same thing happen in this country, the same strategy, which is in 68, out he comes, he gets control in a very short time of the biomedical research, and he cuts off all funding.
He, between him, Jason, Jeremy, for our They control about 65% of all worldwide biomedical research funding, and they cut off funding, any funding, to safety.
Vaccine safety gets no funding.
And if anybody tries to study it, their careers are ruined because they can manipulate the funding to punish the college, the university where that guy works, and make sure they never get a grant again.
And then what they do, as you say, in Australia, They take epidemiological studies done by state scientists, we call them biostitutes, who are paid scientists by the pharmaceutical industry or by NIH, who they know they can count on.
They let them into the database.
Nobody has what we call a vaccine database, which, ouchie, controls who gets in the green.
Won't let any independent scientists in there.
And then they crank out these only epidemiological studies.
They get 10 or 12 of them.
And then they say, look, this is an overwhelming science.
And as you point out, epidemiological studies are very, very easy to fix.
In my profession, where we're constantly cross-examining scientists, we say epidemiological studies, of course, are statistical studies.
We're not doing clinical work.
We're not doing bench studies.
We're not doing animal studies.
We're looking at populations.
And you compare people, the health of people who were exposed to people who weren't exposed.
But there's ways to get rid of the people out of the study who are most vulnerable, which is one of the tricks.
Many, many, many tricks.
There's a saying, there's statistics online for statisticians to do, and they're talking about those pharmaceutical statisticians.
There's another saying that says, the statistics are like prisoners of war.
They'll say anything you want if you torture them enough.
And these statisticians are expert torturers.
They know how to stratify the data, to manipulate it, to use exclusionary criteria.
To get rid of vulnerable subgroups and make the signal disappear.
And then once they get that, they have the Okay.
I can obliterate them but I can never get them in court because Australia and the United States you're not allowed to sue a vaccine company they have a full system fixed yeah No, that's exactly right.
Money is power, as we know, and now the peer-reviewed system is broken because it's completely controlled by the fungial companies and the control of the design of studies.
We also now have discovered in Australia that the courts are so corrupt that, you know, even the heads of our vaccine program, when he committed a crime in the federal court, the Australian Federal Police wouldn't investigate it.
So I want to get right just back to the beginning of what you said there.
I'll ask one other question so that we don't forget it.
You've also had public officials, key public officials, resign because they were taking bribes from the pharmaceutical companies to impose these lockdowns.
Well, that's right.
Yeah, one of our premiers in New South Wales, it appears that she was being bribed.
As we know, it's all run by money.
And of course, that obviously came to light.
I guess what I'd like to speak to you about is my personal experience as an expert witness in our courts here in Australia.
And this happened in 2018.
And I was representing a mother who didn't want to vaccinate her four children, and the father, he wanted to support the government's program, so we took it to court.
And when the doctor on the father's side couldn't answer, couldn't provide the evidence that I requested in my expert witness report, they brought in the head of the Australia's vaccination program, Professor Peter McIntyre, into the case, but at the same time They leaked my confidential affidavit to the mainstream media, where I was defamed with lies.
Professor Peter McIntyre was even quoted in this article, making false comments and providing false information about my qualifications and the case.
And that, in fact, is a federal crime.
And the lawyers in this case were blown away.
They said, you know, look, you're going to have to report that to the Australian Federal Police.
It's a federal crime to leak a confidential affidavit.
And of course, when I reported it to the Australian Federal Police in 2019 in January, there was no response.
He was protected for committing a federal crime which carries a 12-month jail sentence.
And that case never got heard in December 2018 because the mother was threatened with the removal of her four children if she continued with that case.
And so that's the level of corruption we're dealing with here.
And that's why even though we've got legal action on the COVID injections being coerced in employees, we're not convinced that our courts will come down with any just answer here.
year.
And we know that many of the judges are actually funded by government and required to make a judgment in the government's interests.
So we also have that issue.
We're very close to a police state because our courts, we cannot guarantee, we've seen the corruption in our courts.
One thing I would like to mention, Robert, is with the historical control of infectious diseases.
So in actual fact, these are ecological diseases, and that's why it's always been called ecological health.
And you've got to look at why a virus or bacteria causes disease.
And on their own, they don't cause disease.
And this is what we have.
We have the epidemiological triangle.
That's what, you know, infectious disease control experts have used to control these diseases.
It's not just the agent.
You need environmental factors to be present before those agents can actually be pathogenic.
And that's why we've got viruses and bacteria all around us and in us all the time.
It's an ecological issue.
And that's why by 1950, with all the improvements in nutrition and public health infrastructure and hygiene, that's why the risk of hospitalisations and deaths was removed.
And it was well recognised by every public health expert that the asymptomatic or subclinical infections are what create herd immunity.
And that's where the term herd immunity came from.
It was natural exposure between the ages of six months and adolescence.
And that's when these infectious diseases were not harmful to children when they got them.
They were mild in 99.9% of cases in all developed countries and most of them had no symptoms.
They were subclinical exposures giving immunity.
And what's happened is since 1986, because you remove liability from a drug, that gave the vaccine Manufacturers, because they also got hold of the policies, you know, the conflicts of interest in all government policy, industry controls these policies.
And that's how they were able to rewrite history and claim that vaccines are needed to control these diseases, as opposed to the fact that vaccines were a secondary measure and only of a secondary measure.
And they were brought in to see if they could eradicate the diseases, not to remove the risk of death and illness, eradicate, so prevent cases.
And they can't.
And that's very clear over the years.
And so the public is being fooled.
We're being deceived on so many fronts.
And if we don't stop this injection program...
So since 1986, the use of all these vaccines has enabled this background of chronic illness in the population to increase, so that in 2020, The pharmaceutical companies can now say, oh, but the drug might not be the cause of these chronic illnesses.
Because of this increased chronic illness in the population due to so many vaccines being used, they now have this situation where because they've reversed the onus of proof, they can just claim, oh, but it might not be due to the vaccine.
When in fact, you can only protect human health if you put that drug on the market by proving it's safe first.
And that reversal of the onus of proof is significant to this whole debate.
And humans are currently completely being attacked both physically and spiritually with this issue.
In Australia, we are completely terrorised at this point in time with this injection.
Let me ask you one other thing before we go.
Do you have any sign of hope?
Can you talk about what It's growing in Australia where people are waking up.
Yes, I'm very lucky, Robert.
Being in Western Australia, it's an interesting situation, actually, because this is the most remote part of Australia.
We've got two million people in a very expansive area, so it has been hard to get people to come to the protests.
But I think because we haven't been locked down, what's happened is they closed our border.
And the only reason they could justify that was by claiming we didn't have any COVID. So we haven't been infected at all, nothing in the environment.
And that has helped because we've been able to protest loudly.
We've had community meetings.
And just at this point in time, yes, I am feeling some hope.
I've been up and down.
I know this could go either way and we are being completely terrorised.
But in Western Australia, we've definitely picked up the activism and people are waking up rapidly.
And I think a lot of the webinars that we've put out are being noticed around Australia now.
So they're hearing what's happening in Western Australia.
I do feel that the community is gradually seeing the deception that's been pulled over their eyes for so long.
And we have lots of court action happening here in Australia, so we're going to test to see what corruption is actually here.
Is the resistance building any easier?
Absolutely.
And I'm in touch with everybody in all the other states.
The resistance is definitely building and there's many of us that won't accept any of what's happening and people are waking up every day.
So absolutely it's building.
We are getting stronger.
Are any of the labour unions or any major institutions joining in the resistance?
Yes.
We've got some new unions starting up actually.
So that teachers and healthcare workers have been able to join those unions.
We've got businesses now standing up that have decided this discrimination isn't acceptable.
So we're collecting, you know, businesses so that we know who to operate with.
So the resistance is definitely building.
So just in terms of Australia, the political situation is picking up as well.
We've got lots of parties now that are You know, against the mandatory vaccination, but also the big agenda that's being put in place with this economic reset.
We've got some political action that we're hoping might be successful next year.
We'll see you out there on the barricades.
Thank you.
Okay, thanks, Robert.
Yeah, nice to talk.
Julie Weillman, thank you very much for joining us, and good luck to you in your battle, and we'll see you on the barricades.
Thanks, Robert.
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