"Qurona Qrisis" dissects how QAnon weaponized COVID-19, retrofitting the pandemic into their apocalyptic mythos—tying Wuhan to adrenochrome factories and Tom Hanks to child trafficking. Travis View exposes the movement’s obsession with decoding celebrity posts (Ellen DeGeneres’ card trick as a "coded arrest") while mocking Q’s erratic silence ("God wins" after months). The episode also skewers Austin Steinbart’s fraudulent "future Q" claims and Isaac Cappy’s tragic suicide, exploited as "proof." With Trump’s shifting pandemic stance and Joe M’s CIA theories, QAnon collapses into a chaotic fusion of real crimes (Epstein) and absurd fantasies—all while its followers insist the truth is too shocking to handle. [Automatically generated summary]
Well, so, you know, the COVID-19 virus, what it does to the human body, right?
It sort of, it mimics sort of the zombification effects that scientists have been warning about for decades now and transforms people into super smart, super fast, super human monsters.
No, this is not true.
It's absolutely true.
So I was patrolling today and actually, ironically, patrolling!
Patrolling!
I've been on Corona's patrol.
Oh, my God.
Me and all the boys, we got these Tybeck painter suits.
We got the gloves, we got the masks.
But you stand six feet apart from each other, right?
Yeah, but that's because it's other dudes, not because of Corona.
And we had this like this deranged-looking man come up to us and be like, why are you wearing that shit?
Why do you have a gun?
Blah, blah, blah.
I'm like, oh, this guy has coronavirus.
And, you know, emptied a mag, smoked him is what they say.
And continued on our way.
I didn't get any of his, I mean, it was clear, like, usually.
I don't think any of this happened.
No, no, no, you're right.
I did take a nice long walk in Buenavista, though.
Did you see some lovely flowers?
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Today, no, not really.
It's not a big, it's a cruising park more than a flower park.
It's like Hobo Cruise Park.
Yeah, yeah, yes, absolutely.
It's where you will go if you want to get your dick sucked.
How you been doing?
Um...
I'm good.
I don't know.
Same, same.
You know, in my compound.
What do you call it?
The Truanon Ultra Bunker?
The Truanon Ultra Bunker.
Yeah.
For those of you, I'm actually, I can see Liz right now, even though she's recording from the bunker.
And I got to say, I love what you've done with the place.
The steel walls look amazing, but the way you've painted them, it's just, it's fantastic.
I never knew you were such a talented muralist.
Yes, you know, I've always appreciated good sponge painting.
Yes, yes, yeah.
I love it.
So I've, yeah, I'm, I'll tell you what, I'm about ready for this thing to be over.
Yeah.
I'm not like freaked out or anything anymore.
I'm just like, I'm bored.
I know.
I think everyone kind of is.
Yeah.
I was saying we were doing the Twitch stream last night.
And I was saying that, and I was telling you and Young Chomsky that I had like basically what was pretty much an anxiety attack yesterday.
Although it didn't fully manifest, I was able to kind of like calm myself down before the hyperventilation, whatever, hyperventilating started.
And because I had just like convinced myself that I had it.
Yeah.
And I, and I'm like, I have realized that I have to keep myself busy around the house with things other than being on the computer, whether it's like cleaning, cooking, organizing, like finding, reorganizing things or like, I don't know, taking care of my plants or whatever.
Or else my brain will just start thinking about like, why does my chest feel tight?
And then my chest will feel tighter and then my lungs will hurt.
And then like, I'll start manifesting all these symptoms totally in my brain.
So I'm trying to not do that.
Yeah.
Well, I would like to recommend something to you, a product.
I know you've been telling me to use this, this Dr. Singa's mustard bag, right?
And I have been doing it multiple times a day.
Oh, no, no, you haven't, Ben though, right?
No, I haven't.
No, I ordered it and it never came.
Well, anyone listening who did order it, don't do it multiple times a day.
Do it like once or twice a week if you do it.
But I think something that would really work for you that I've been doing a lot lately is adrenochrome.
Where did you get your hands on it, Brace?
Well, so I have my own supply.
Well, as you know, I have a sizable attic.
In fact, I live in an attic, but my attic has like a little loft chamber above it.
And let's just say I keep a supply.
Oh, God.
Yeah.
But you're welcome to come to ascend from the depths of the bunker, the ultra bunker, anytime you'd like and hop, skip, and jump your way over here across the mountains and the sea to take a sip.
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Well, wait.
Speaking of, you know why you brought that up.
Oh, wait.
I did it wrong.
Should we introduce ourselves?
I prefer not to.
At this point, with the whole COVID stuff going on, I don't know.
You know, a lot of people know me.
I'm a pretty, you know, well-known guy.
I, unlike either you guys, I actually, I have a Wikipedia article.
Um, which is like it's cool.
Ooh la la, MrFancyInternet.com over here.
That's no, that is my cousin, Kim.
The Korean side of my family, Kim.com.
A lot of people don't know that, like, okay, yeah, I'm famous.
And with that comes, like, a lot of crazy, you know, it's difficult for me.
Yes, I have my full address on my Wikipedia article.
No, that isn't normal.
Yes, that's so well-wishers can come by and throw pennies in the large fountain in my Villa's courtyard.
But it's, you know, times like this, fine, I'll do it.
My name is Brace Belden.
That's right.
I'm Liz.
We are joined by our producer Young Chomsky, and this is Truanon.
Hello.
Hello.
And we have an exciting episode.
But before, I think we should mention that we are doing these Twitch streams now.
Yeah, yeah.
I just mentioned we did that last night, but I think we're going to start doing it regularly.
We don't have a exact set date always for the weekday ones.
We will announce them, but we're trying to figure out our schedule.
We're going to try to do about two a week with some other ones also, but definitely at least two shows a week.
And one, I believe, unless this changes, we're going to try to do Sunday nights at five.
And then either Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday, I don't know yet.
Also at five, probably five or six.
Five, let's say.
And it's, I don't know what the exact web address is, but it's the Twitch.
It's twitch.tv/slash Truanon.
They make it easy for you.
I'll be honest with you.
We are not, we're not so hot at tech.
No, because we're not fucking dorks.
Exactly.
So it's like, yes, okay, sometimes we don't know what, you know, sometimes it does take 15 consecutive hours of us trying to set up whatever OBS is before we do it.
But we're getting there and we'll get it.
And please stop.
I say to that, I say, you know, Chad meme, computer go burr.
I don't know.
Computer goes burr.
And you'll be going burr too when you make fun of me again and I take off all your clothes and leave you in a blizzard after sucking you off.
Okay, okay, okay.
So you brought up Adriena Crow.
And I think you did with good reason.
Adriana Crow motherfuckers.
We are talking Q Corona craziness today.
Oh, yes, we are.
No, we have official.
Well, first of all, there's been a lot going on in Q World with this whole COVID crisis.
But yeah, COVID quiet.
It's cool because it's kind of like baby talk, which, you know, I know people find that sexy.
COVID crisis.
Figured out by Andrew Kuo.
I was going to say that.
Need to do it, baby.
I didn't say that.
And I get all the credit.
But we have invited as a returning guest, QA, excuse me.
Let me get this straight in my head.
True Anon, QAnon, correspondent Travis View from the QAnon Anonymous podcast.
Did I get that right?
You did.
Round of applause.
Congratulations.
We will be discussing these sick freaks in Hollywood and how the Q-Sphere has been reacting to Ko-Risis.
That is, sorry, I shouldn't repeat that again.
How are there still sirens?
We're not even recording.
We're not even recording from Young Chomsky's apartment right now.
How are there still sirens?
You live in a quiet area.
I don't know, man.
Actually, I don't know who's...
That could have been either of you guys.
It wasn't me.
Oh, was that from Young Chomsky's basement apartment?
Still stuff on fire, I guess.
Pathetic, dude.
I would never set something on fire during this time of crisis.
All right, all right, all right, all right.
Should we get the show on the road?
Let's fire up the engine, baby.
This is our interview with Travis Muir to our main event.
We have with us in the cyber studio Travis View, co-host of the QAnon Anonymous, to answer some questions about our friends over in the QAnon community.
Travis, how you doing?
I'm doing wonderfully.
Thank you so much for having me.
Let me ask you this before we get started.
Have they fully doxed you yet?
Yeah, they doxed me.
They did successfully.
I knew it would happen eventually.
But yeah, but then they found out my real name, where I really work, down, it's just a tech company down in San Diego.
Um, and, um, and, uh, but they haven't been able to, they're very, I feel like they're, they're kind of disappointed because they thought I would be, I guess, more powerful or I would have, uh, have, uh, uh, you know, some, some, something sort of shady in my past instead of just being sort of just a dude who, you know, works a low level job at a company and has a family and a pretty lame IRL.
So they're very disappointed by that.
I will say, respect on the family.
Yeah.
Well, it has been, I mean, as a fellow podcaster, you can understand how eventful these days since the pandemic has really hit has been.
Yeah.
It's a peak podcasting time, certainly.
Oh, absolutely.
And I mean, for those of you who are not familiar, we've had Travis on the show before.
And Travis has his own podcast dedicated to, well, exploring the QAnon community and also just sort of broader right-wing crankery.
But you must be overjoyed.
I mean, you must be like a damn pig and shit for this stuff.
I mean, I want to put it like that because everything is very awful.
I'm very sad for the way things are going.
But it is certainly the way that the QAnon community is reacting because the QAnon community is basically an apocalyptic cult.
And now we have essentially an apocalyptic event happening.
And so they're very excited about what everything is happening.
So things are lining up quite nicely for them, they feel.
Yeah, I think what's been fascinating is watching how the Q people have fit the phenomenon of the virus into their already existing kind of universe where they're like, this isn't the great storm though.
And we can talk about what that is in case our listeners aren't familiar.
Although I think some of them are.
But that it's like kind of a prelude or, you know, it's playing out the way they were told by Q.
Yeah, I mean, like a lot of the things, the funny thing is that like nothing in the Q lore ever predicted the pandemic.
In fact, they were dismissing the pandemic in late January because they thought that they were taking cues from Trump, essentially.
But once it became serious, they started telling themselves that, oh, wait, this is a prelude to the storm of mass arrests and the great awakening that they wanted.
Because number one, it got everyone indoors.
That meant that they're going to spend more time online.
That means that they're going to get red-pilled.
And they thought that...
That's been my experience as well.
Yeah.
Yeah, me too, unfortunately.
So another element is that they thought that they're really craving basically martial law.
The very first Q drop talked about the National Guard being activated.
And now, of course, the National Guard is a little bit more active now in the state of emergency.
And so they think that eventually it's going to come to a place where basically there is martial law that they've been waiting for for years.
So they didn't predict what was going to happen, but it sort of fits the themes that they thought was going to happen.
So they're very happy.
Yeah.
So, I mean, could you give a little like, I mean, I assume that like a good percentage of our listeners are familiar with at least the bare bones of the Q sort of story and lore.
Although we last interviewed you kind of a while, it was a very early episode.
So it's been a little while since then.
Just real quick, how has like I know that with every sort of new event that happens, with every twist and turn of the Trump presidency, most importantly, but also world events, the Q sort of universe has folded all those into its own sort of mythos, right?
Yeah, yeah.
It's basically sort of a sort of a crowdsource improvisational exercise.
When anything happens whatsoever, they fold it into their mythology.
They fit everything, even like Trump typos.
If Trump makes a typo, they think that it was intentional, some sort of secret code, and they sort of fold that into their very yes-and, basically.
That's how they make sense of the world.
I knew UCB was problematic.
We should have shut them down early.
Yeah, I know.
I know, and I really respect that they're very much into numerology in terms of like letters that Trump uses in tweets and certainly the numbers that he puts out when he tweets stuff.
But you were saying that like they were pretty unprepared for this, right?
Like, has the Q, because I know that Q basically makes, I mean, he has like prophecies, and then they kind of tie, you know, nothing will happen for eight months, and then they'll find something, some way to tie that prophecy into like something that happens.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, they rationalized away everything.
Like, for example, an early early Q drop said, trust Sessions.
Trust Jeff Sessions.
He's the guy who's going to bring about the storm.
But on the other hand, Trump hated Sessions.
He bashed them on Twitter.
He said, I don't even have an attorney general.
It's quite obvious that Trump is unhappy with Sessions.
And so QAnon people told them, oh, you are watching a movie.
This is all for show.
This is secretly, Sessions is somehow bringing about the mass arrest, even though he didn't.
So it's totally unfalsifiable.
But yeah, they just take every sort of weird twist in the news and say, this somehow fits into our mythology.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so this, I assume, caught them sort of off guard at first.
But in a way, it's like perfect for them because, I mean, well, could you explain first a little about Q's QAnon universes or the Bakers and the sort of investigators views on Hollywood?
Well, yeah, they certainly believe that Hollywood is composed of pedophilic adrenicomb drinkers.
Correct.
And so just all of them.
If you've ever achieved any degree of success in Hollywood, that means that basically you are been initiated into this Illuminati cabal and that involves a lot of sacrificing children and drinking their dream lies blood in their view.
And so a popular target of these accusations is Tom Hanks.
Yeah, there's like I've read lots of threads, and as I'm sure you have as well, of course.
About Tom Hanks and all his very strange social media posts, especially the one with Oprah.
But he kind of like his like social, like so much of this stuff with celebrities is based on the way they use social media.
And Tom Hanks has this very like kind, I mean, sort of like classically boomer-ish, like playful, but not that funny like way of doing Instagram and Twitter posts.
And so they like, they'll use that as like, like you're saying, a way to find these kind of like supposed ciphers or that he's like transmitting messages.
Yes, yes, yes.
They often say one thing that they say in QAnon is symbolism will be their downfall, which is this belief that like Hollywood or the cabal have their own sort of secret way of speaking through symbols and codes.
And then once we sort of decode it, we can sort of like understand what's really going on.
And you're right.
Tom Hanks, he uses social media in a really weird way.
He will take, do, for example, he'll take a photograph of a sock on the side of the road and then post that for some reason just because it caught his eye, a glove, just something discarded.
Yeah, I saw the one with the glove.
It was very weird.
And it was like Route 66.
Hope it's not Roadkill.
And it was like a medical glove.
And then like someone died like two days later.
And that's like, oh, I think Cappy.
I think that was Cappy.
That was, yeah, a lot of QAnon people thought that that was a reference to Isaac Cappy, who was a QAnon promoter who tragically committed suicide by jumping off of a bridge.
And they think that this was Tom Hanks actually signaling that he was somehow involved in Isaac Cappy's death, which there's no evidence whatsoever of that.
But yeah, that's one of the ways that they sort of decoded these social media posts from Tom Hanks.
Wait, can we, can we, yeah, actually, I don't want to get into Cappy right now, but I do want to get into Cappy for a little bit because he's sort of the, you know, dark to light.
He's the light in Hollywood.
But yeah, Tom Hanks is like, what exactly like, what is sort of the mythology around Hanks?
Okay, well, they actually, a popular accusation, there's this one QNON promoter.
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Her name is Sarah Ruth Ashcraft.
Yes.
And she claims, again, baseless, no real evidence for this whatsoever.
But she claims that she was sold to Tom Hanks at 14 years old as a sex slave by her CIA father.
This is what they claim, that Tom Hanks procured this teenage sex slave.
And that's one of the many evil things that Hanks allegedly did.
And that's where it kind of stems from.
So for Ashcroft is like sort of like the genesis of a lot of these accusations because she provides like a first-hand one, quote-unquote.
Yes, yes.
She has an elaborate story about how she was basically sexually abused by Tom Hanks.
And she has lots of tweets and stuff about this.
Obviously, there's nothing to substantiate whatsoever.
But a lot of QAnon people, they're just latched on to this idea.
And Sarah Ruth Ashcraft, she's managed to build quite a large audience from these baseless allegations.
Yeah, I know.
I've been following her for a little while.
Clearly insane, although, you know, it's.
Yeah, there are lots of people in the QAnon community, I think, that are like grifters where they cynically manipulating people who like conspiracy theories.
Yes.
Ashcraft, I think she is, she actually has some issues.
I think she needs some serious pharmacological help, probably.
Yeah, well, which I'm happy to provide for her for a small fee and then consistently larger ones as time goes on.
So one of the ways our little problematic friends at Q have latched onto Tom Hanks with the pandemic is that he, of course, famously came out in a video tweet or whatever, and he and his wife had coronavirus.
Yes.
And so the Q people, just to explain it to our listeners, have kind of latched onto this idea that all of these celebrities coming out and saying that they have coronavirus is a kind of like cover-up for mass arrests of global pedophilia that's happening.
Currently.
Yeah.
That is one element.
The other element I really love this is that a lot of QNON followers have latched onto the tainted and renochrome theory.
Whoa, okay.
Yeah, I like this theory.
Hold on.
Can you explain real quick to some of our listeners what adrenochrome is?
Okay.
So adrenochrome is a real real compound that has some medical uses and some limited circumstances.
But a lot of QAnon people, they believe falsely that it has a lot of special sort of hallucinogenic properties.
And they think that it's a sort of a substance that the elites use to make themselves young.
Basically what they believe is that the elites torture and kill young children to adrenalize their blood.
And then they extract this blood and then they take it to get high and stay young forever.
This is sort of the sort of the mythology.
Now, that's not true.
They got this idea from Hunter S. Thompson, who talked about adrenochrome as if it had these properties.
It just doesn't.
But they have this misconception about what adrenochrome is and then how it's used.
But basically in QAnon World, it's the sort of the evil secret drug of the elites.
And everyone with a high degree of fame or power takes it to basically renew their evil powers.
But can you still take it?
Could I get adrenochrome?
You could buy, listen, you could buy right now.
You can go online, you could buy some adrenochrome for 60 bucks.
It's synthesized.
It's not difficult to acquire.
But the synthesized version isn't supposed to be the one that they use.
Yes, this is what the I've been told.
I've been told that they want pure organic adrenochrome, not this note.
Which requires children's bodies.
Yes, exactly.
I got my buddy Hamilton, the chemist guy.
I just texted him to see if he can get us some.
Well, but synthetic isn't going to do anything.
I didn't say synthetic.
So the idea that what Q is saying, you mentioned the contaminated adrenochrome factories, is that's the other thing is that they think that a lot of these factories producing adrenochrome are in Wuhan.
Isn't that correct?
That is correct.
Yes, yes.
They think that, yes, all this adrenochrome is coming out of Wuhan, which of course ground zero for the pandemic.
Exactly.
And so did they believe that before the pandemic or is that?
No, new belief.
This is something they just decided to add.
But it's all adding up.
No, but that's the other thing that I love about this angle is, you know, they're obsessing all over these celebrity Instagram posts and they're like, shit, Ellen looks like shit.
It's because she doesn't have her adrenochrome because the facilities have been contaminated by the pandemic.
And it's like, no, Ellen's old.
like oh you guys the magic of movie making like they photoshop everyone and she's also mean and being mean ages you that's very true she's like she's like amy klobuchar love vol bad boss lady so so they they think that not only have have the the celebs unfortunately lost their supply of adrenochrome why they wouldn't keep a supply of adrenochrome around you know i if i was Tom Hanks,
for instance, and I needed adrenochrome in order to keep acting and just, you know, being young, I would have like a year's stock.
Yeah, you think they'd stock up.
Well, one other component of the theory is that, is that they believe that they were getting their adrenochrome from across the southern border, from Mexico.
But of course, Trump in his wisdom has closed off the border, so they can't get adrenochrome from there anymore.
So they have to get it from other sources, like this factory in Wuhan that they just made up.
Now, does that tie into MS-13 stuff?
Yes.
Yes.
They also believe that MS-13 was basically a private hit squad for the Democratic Party.
Oh, wow.
And it was MS-13 who was responsible for killing Seth Rich.
And there's no evidence of this whatsoever.
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It's an unsolved murder.
But this is what they believe.
Basically, the Democratic Party enlisted the help of MS-13 to kill Seth Rich to basically get back at him for, they think, leaking the DNC emails.
I'm not going to comment anything on this Seth Rich thing, but I will, like, they are too reductive about these things.
Like, I think it's very easy to kind of plot out a history where cartels are linked through the CIA to MS-13, and there's like a little triangle there.
You know what I mean?
But it's like, you know, this like, yeah, extremely reductive, like, folklore is actually, like, obscuring more than clarifying.
I mean, I know it's not meant to clarify.
But, like, it's like, yeah, exactly.
I mean, their idea of it is that literally like Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters Venmoed some guy in El Salvador $800,000 of taxpayer money in order to shoot not only Seth Rich, but to push Michael Tracy to basically to make, do Spanish outreach for Bernie.
It's like, it's all like, it's not, it can't just be like this sort of like, yeah, no, I mean, I don't need to explain it any further, but you know what I mean.
But it's, yeah, it's, it's very bizarre.
And this plays into their whole like the Q sort of theory of the world is that like there is a giant global battle ongoing, but it's behind the scenes.
That's right.
Somehow every major player in every major country and even minor ones are involved in it, but no one really else besides them.
And if people found out about it, that's the thing.
So the reason that all these arrests happen in secret is because if the public found out that not only was there a cabal, but the cabal injected the blood of children, ate babies,
purposely chose Fightsong to activate MKUltra and Liz, that that would be such overwhelming shock to the system that people would just basically keel over of heart attacks.
Yeah, yeah.
I think that there's one Q post that goes like, like the truth would put 90% of people in the hospital.
There's this idea that the truth is so horrible.
That's corona, baby.
That if it were to be a release at once, then we just couldn't psychologically handle it.
Really, all this is, I think, is a way for QAnon people to flatter themselves and this idea, like they're very stoic and tough, and they can handle the dark truth about the horrible reality we live in.
But the people on the street, the normies that they're looking after, they just can't handle it.
So that's why they think that all of these arrests that they're happening has to happen over a slow timeline rather than just releasing all at once.
I always said, you know, I feel like if Trump was saving children, saving lots and lots of children, he feels like this is something that he would be openly boastful about rather than like doing it, doing it in secret.
Yeah, that doesn't totally add up for me.
This is where the whole, should we mention the Oprah fiasco?
Oh, yes, we should.
So, yeah.
No, no, go ahead, Liz.
This is your wheelhouse, baby.
No, I just, you know, Oprah was like, Oprah arrested, I think, was trending last week.
Yeah.
And number one on Twitter.
Amazing.
Incredible.
And so she, there was a big rumor going around that she was one of the celebs that was secretly arrested or placed on house arrest, which is always like, that's what they'll claim if they post a photo, but you can't see their ankle.
Because they'll be like, oh, can't see the ankle monitor.
They must be on house arrest.
Yep.
And so this is like a massive world trending topic, like you mentioned.
And Oprah herself had to come out and be like, I wasn't arrested for these horrible things you were saying.
I'm just at home.
Yeah, yeah.
This is so, so bizarre.
Yeah, basically it started with this Twitter thread and then it turned into a YouTube video of someone who claimed that Oprah has been arrested.
Her home is being excavated.
Basically, there was like tape around her home in Florida and that meant that she was being arrested.
And then it spilled out basically into Normie Twitter, who basically, who are lots of, lots of people who use Twitter day to day are just unfamiliar with these wild conspiracy theories.
And they just read, oh, Oprah has been arrested.
That sounds plausible.
And just untold numbers of people online just bought into it and made it the number one trending topic.
Just a bizarre fantasy.
So why is Oprah tied up in all of this?
Well, Oprah is tied up in all of this for a couple reasons.
Number one, I feel like the QAlon people, they want to go after the biggest celebrities that they can.
I feel like this is why they target Tom Hanks.
And so any permanent A-plus lister, they definitely have a lot of interest in to prove that they are secretly evil and people shouldn't like them.
And another reason is basically Oprah's relationship with Harvey Weinstein.
They do a lot of pictures, real, real actual pictures of Oprah with Harvey Weinstein.
And they say that, oh, she knew or she was in on what he was doing.
And that proves that she was part of the cabal, doing some sex trafficking stuff.
This is what they say.
Yeah, she also has featured prominently on her show and in her different kind of like media endeavors.
What I would call a cult in South America called John of God.
Yes, yes.
And this is like kind of a big focus for cute people, I think.
Yeah, there's the John of God cult.
There's also a school in Africa that was somehow tied to Oprah's charity efforts that was associated with some sex trafficking.
And they tie it to that as well.
I will say that something that's a little frustrating is now I noticed it's very difficult to Google Oprah, John of God stuff because this big like hoax went trending and so you can't find any of the old articles because now all the news stories about the hoax are like on the pages and pages of Google.
But so Oprah is not the only, so we've mentioned Oprah, Tom Hanks.
I mean, I love talking about the celebs.
So hopefully this isn't too much.
But I do, we have to mention Ellen and the kind of like bizarre communication that Q people think is happening between different social media accounts.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because of the pandemic, a lot of celebs are in their homes and they're trying to get their attention fixed by posting on social media, I suppose, as all of us are.
But yeah, they're doing weird things.
Like, for example, Ellen, Ellen DeGeneres, she posted a video of herself basically flubbing a magic trick with a deck of cards.
It was supposed to be sort of a little joke.
It's very weird.
It was kind of weird.
I guess it was supposed to be a joke.
But during that video, during that trick, she showed the camera a six card, another six card, and a five.
And what do you get when you add six, six, and five?
17.
And 17 Q is the 17th letter of the alphabet.
And so Q people thought that this was Ellen signaling that she had been arrested or that or she was sending a warning to the other people in the cabal or something.
Oh my gosh.
So they attach a lot of significance to that.
So their idea is that Ellen was like, you know, like Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, et cetera.
She has been arrested, but she's under house arrest.
And in order to try to bypass the Q sensors, because they're very into comms, right?
Like they're big into talking about comms.
Yes.
Learn the comms has been repeated in a lot of Q drops.
Yeah.
And so her normal comms have been cut.
And so she's forced to use alternative comms by posting a Instagram or whatever video and signaling to her friends that, no, in fact, Q has taken her.
Yeah, yeah.
That was basically it.
Yeah, there's this idea that, like, I don't know.
They don't believe that the cabal has like a group DM or something where they can communicate privately.
They think that everything has to be opened on open social media, but in this weird code that only they are smart enough to decipher, basically.
See, this is why they'll never get podcasters because there's so many podcasters, group DMs.
There was like one post where she was wearing a sweatshirt that said run for us run.
Or that's what people claimed she was.
Yeah, it didn't actually say that.
I forget what it actually said, but yeah, they thought it said run for us run.
Of course, this was a signal to Tom Hanks to flee because the cabal is on his trail and they're about to catch up with him.
Amazing.
Tom's son, too, has been the focus.
Chet Hanks has been the focus of some investigation as well.
Yeah, yeah, yes.
After Tom Hanks was diagnosed with COVID-19, Chet Hanks tipped to Instagram to be a like all, wow, crazy.
My parents are like, have the coronavirus.
But when he made the video, he did it shirtless for some reason.
And he happens to have just a massive tattoo of the eye of Providence right on his sternum.
And of course, this is associated with the Freemasons, which a lot of conspiracy theorists associate with New World Order conspiracy theories.
So that was a bad decision on his part.
But he wound up making another video, basically making fun of those conspiracy theorists, talking about how he's going to eat pineal glands and then do human sacrifices and stuff.
And they took it seriously.
That really bummed me up because you guys know I like to kind of like dabble in some of this stuff for fun.
But I was like, damn, he has that tattoo.
Like, I thought that was crazy.
And then he posts the one where he's like obviously making fun, being like, and then we're going to take over the world.
And it's so obviously sarcastic and joking.
Is he speaking?
And it's like the Q people took it seriously.
It's like, come on, guys.
Use the context clues.
It's funny because he speaks in a sort of like facsimile of Jamaican patois, too, right?
Exactly.
That's, yeah, all right.
That's all right.
Yeah, yeah.
He has a, he has a, he tried a rap career that didn't quite take off.
Yeah.
Well, what are they making of the Professor Dr. Donald J. Trump's sort of schizophrenic reaction to the corona crisis?
You know, as it's like all over the place.
Yeah, yeah, that is a point.
I haven't really seen them try to reconcile that at all.
I mean, because they trust this man with their life.
They really think that he is the source of all truth and goodness and knowledge.
And they, I mean, this is the reason why a lot of QAnon people were blindsided by the pandemic because Trump, of course, downplayed it as it started becoming a more and more serious problem here in the United States.
So they just, in fact, they also combined the fact that basically Q has been basically silent for like over a month.
So while all this crisis is unfolding, they've been flying blind.
So they got mixed messages from Trump, which they can't make sense of.
They're getting no guidance from Q.
So they're left to their own devices to try and spin their own conspiracy theories.
Wait, no, I thought Q was back.
Q has been back since basically since 8-kun launched and after 8-Chan.
So Q was posting for a few months.
The most recent post was just a video, an old video.
It wasn't that very interesting.
But before that, the last post was about a month ago.
It just said God wins.
God wins.
Not very informative, but no guidance.
The last post before this video was a month ago.
Yeah, yeah.
And forgive me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember Q posting like several times a day.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sometimes Q posts 50 times in a single day.
That has happened.
Sometimes Q goes weeks without saying anything.
It's very inconsistent.
It's not like a continuous thing.
I wonder just like if the guy behind it just like gets bored or something.
I mean, it's probably changed hands a few times.
And like, I feel like who's ever behind the handle now is not quite as smart and sophisticated as the people who originally ran the Q handle.
In the early days of Q, it was obvious that whoever was running it was very, very well informed about every sort of conspiracy theory and how they sort of overlapped and connected.
It was a very sophisticated understanding that Q was feeding these people.
But then over time, the post started getting more sloppy and weird and not quite as tight into sort of the conspiracy theory mythology.
So I feel like there's someone not quite as savvy behind the wheel of Q at the moment.
Well, that sort of mirrors the Q movement because at first it was like, you know, I mean, it just exploded in popularity because I did think it linked a lot of like common threads for people that like maybe they didn't really follow so well, but there was some familiarity to it.
But now Q has its own universe, essentially, and that there's so many different, like I think we talked about this last time we had you on.
There's just so many different like strands of Q believers now that like it's just all over the place.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's, I mean, because there's a lot of factionalism with this already fringe community.
They believe all sorts of wild things.
I mean, we talk about like, yeah, one thing, there's a JFK Jr. Lives sect who believes that, even though Q specifically denied it.
In fact, there's a new player on the scene right now.
There's this guy in Arizona.
His name is Austin Steinbart.
And he has been taken to claiming that actually.
I watched some of his videos.
Yeah, yeah.
He's a rising star.
What's he claiming?
He's claiming that he is Q. Specifically, he is.
Yeah, look, he is actually Q from the future who is leaving Q's clues from the Q drops to his present day self.
Basically, he's Q, and then he is, he's built quite a sort of a chunk of the QAnon audience by making these claims.
Doesn't he claim to have worked in security before?
Yes, yes.
He claims that he was a department, was a defense intelligence agency agent of some sort.
He claims that he has previously worked for the CIA in Cuba.
He says his first CIA assignment was in Cuba when he was 17 years old.
None of this is substantiated.
I'm looking at this guy right now.
He's a young man.
Yeah, he's got like a Nick Fuentes vibe.
Yeah, he's a well-groomed 29-year-old guy.
And he started making these outlandish claims.
And then, yeah, he's gotten quite popular in certain segments of the QAnon community.
Like the other QAnon leaders, basically the old guard, hate him because he's making these outlandish claims.
Interesting.
Yeah, I was about to say, where does Joe M stand on him?
Joe M hates him.
Joe M hates Austin Steinbart.
Those sorts of people, they call him a Johnny come lately.
They call him a fraud.
They don't like Austin Steinbart at all.
I watched this video about John McCain and I thought it was pretty good.
I mean, it was, you know, love information.
You know, that's the real horseshoe there is that both Truanon and QAnon, well, there's a little bit of overlap there because sometimes they say stuff that's true.
Well, yeah, of course, of course.
But in our hatred of John McCain, that's a full circle right there.
One thing that's really great in the video is they really like that, you know, I always loved Trump's attacks on John McCain because it was always just like, but you were a shitty pilot.
And everyone's like, oh, heavens to Betsy, I can't believe he's saying that.
But it's like, no, John McCain was famously like a terrible fucking pilot.
He like helped destroy an aircraft carrier.
Yeah, and he like graduated last in his class.
And it was basically like, you know, naval royalty.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's a top fail son.
Yeah.
Well, luckily, his daughter, dude, I hope his daughter joins the Navy.
Megan, I'm speaking of.
I mean, she's sorry.
She's at my house right now.
So it's like.
Should sink the boat.
Ooh.
Classic catty list.
I'm cooked up.
We mentioned a sort of light side Hollywood actor before, and that's someone named Isaac Cappy.
Yes.
And I, I mean, that's, it's kind of a like pretty sad story, but I think it's really emblematic of a lot of the kind of Q characters who really like throw themselves into that world.
And just like about how the internet can kind of like really prey on people's basically mental illnesses.
And could you explain, could you explain to our listeners about basically what happened?
Who was Isaac Cappy?
So Isaac Cappy was a small-time Hollywood actor.
He had some small roles in a handful of movies.
It was one of the Terminator sequels.
He was in the movie Beer Fest.
He was in a couple comedies.
He was a working actor.
He wasn't really a big name.
But he wound up basically falling into the kind of like Pizzagate set where he started making accusations against lots of people in Hollywood claiming that they were engaging in pedophilia without evidence.
One of the people that he accused, that Isaac Cappy accused, was Seth Green.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
He made these accusations on Infowars.
For example, Alex Jones loved Isaac Cappy.
But yeah, so what happened is that he made these accusations and then eventually got to a point where he wound up basically committing suicide by throwing himself off of a bridge somewhere in Arizona.
And I don't know what exactly motivated him.
It's actually his last Instagram post actually referenced the Q community.
Yes.
So this was a very, very tragic incident, but that's basically the story of Isaac Cappy.
His last post was that sort of video where he's wearing the denim jacket and talking about how he's done some stuff because he was forced to do it.
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And like, it was a very sort of like a lot of weird kind of opaque messaging in it that was like perfect for these sort of people to leap upon and connect to all sorts of their own pet conspiracy theories as well, which is, I mean, that's really one of the things that like I keep coming back to with the QAnon community because it almost seems like it's just the hub for like, you know how like the internet basically became like six websites?
Yes.
It's like the conspiracy theory community just became one conspiracy.
Yeah, I mean that's that's basically it.
It's a sort of a synthesis of every conspiracy theory and it just is just ties together.
I mean, you read, when I read books about QAnon, basically it's like, first they start you off like, well, okay, let's start off with the sort of like ancient Roman times.
And they, they sort of like, they bring you together.
They talk about basically every conspiracy theory that has ever been started for like, I don't know, they bring you to the Enlightenment era.
They're talking about the Illuminati, and then they think that there's basically been, they basically don't believe in conspiracies.
They believe in one singular conspiracy throughout all of history.
And every sort of alternative narrative is just part of that one single grand conspiracy.
The Assassin's Creed.
That's basically it.
It's Assassin's Creed kind of narrative.
Amazing.
Yeah, it's, it's, and we got to wrap up in a sec.
Although, not.
Not quite just yet, but are the Q sort of more hardcore, even sort of the less hardcore Q followers, are they going outside?
I understand that they think Corona, you know, there's this sort of underlying cause, not cause, at least, that Corona is basically being used to cover up all these arrests.
But are they like, do they believe that it exists?
No, they think they, no, they think because Trump finally did take it seriously, they take it seriously too.
They take cues directly from Trump.
Again, unless like, for example, Q contradicts him.
So Q hasn't provided any guidance on the pandemic.
And then Trump said that the pandemic is serious.
So QAnon people have been taking it seriously.
But they also believe that it's ultimately part of the plan.
I don't know how they're going to keep reconciling this as things are going to get even more serious in the coming weeks and months.
But no, they do think it's real.
Has anyone prominent in the Q community contracted COVID-19?
No, not yet.
That's going to be really wild.
That is going to be wild.
When we're like, yes, if fucking Joe M comes out, confesses that he caught the Rona, that'll be interesting.
Dude, I would love to intubate Joe M.
I mean, I actually do feel, I mean, he's all these people are really, I mean, obviously grifters or at least preying upon other people's gullibility or mental illness.
But like, I just, he is my rock in the Q community.
Yeah, he is, he is obviously a lot smarter than the rest of them.
He writes in complete sentences, which is, which is, which is, uh, elevates him above the rest.
He's, I mean, he's a true believer.
I mean, Julian, my co-host on the QAnon Anonymous podcast, he's pretty convinced that Joe M is CIA.
I have no reason to believe that.
Ooh, I like that.
Yeah, but I'm really convinced that he is just a true believer.
I think he's, I also think that, I also don't think he's American.
I think that he is actually South African for a couple reasons.
He's South African.
Can you tell me the reasons?
Well, yeah, because basically his original name, I forget what it was, but his original name is basically a South African phrase that translates to your mother's cunt, basically.
This was his original screen name, which is a common vulgarity, I guess, in South Africa.
And basically, that's the main reason.
Why would an American reference a South African vulgarity?
Yeah, that's not an American thing.
Yeah.
Interesting.
That would make sense with intelligence stuff, too.
Yeah, I mean, because you know that my personal theory has always been that Q and Pizzagate stuff, whether they originally started out as like ops, I do think that like it's, I mean,
my like weird theory that I don't have a ton of evidence for except for some circumstantial stuff is that Roger Stone basically concocted it with like Pesobiac and Cernovich and a couple other people to basically either at first the Pizzagate stuff to like smear or whatever Podesta, which by the way, don't need, I mean, don't get me started on that.
We'll do a deep dive someday on whether some of the Podesta stuff.
But like, but that eventually the QAnon and Pizzagate sort of merging there was them essentially trying to make the idea that there was a global pedophile cabal just totally the realm of wackos and not actually like really true and happening.
Because now if, you know, if I start talking to people about, you know, child sex slave islands and the Clintons and blah, blah, blah, they're like, oh, this is QAnon stuff.
But like, no, that's real.
Yeah, I mean, this is something I think I talk about a lot on the show.
It's like, yeah, it is frustrating that QAnon, because they add on all this bizarre fascistic fantasy baggage onto something that is real and horrifying and a problem.
I mean, yeah, I mean, like, yeah, like the Epstein stuff is super villain, unimaginably awful.
And like, it doesn't need all of the weird embellishments that they sort of tag onto it to make it less credible than it ought to be.
If you're talking about the real stuff.
I mean, I do think it's crazy that Hillary Clinton had her brother Tony Rodham killed and put in Epstein's cell.
I think that's fucking crazy.
But it's like, there's a good reason she did that, right?
Like, it's not like she just did it because she's evil.
I mean, I am of the mind that like the birther stuff generated, like that came from Roger Stone, and he's the one who fed it to Trump like a billion years ago.
Like that's like kind of my, like, and then that kind of plays into my theories about warring factions and different intelligence communities.
Yankees and cowboys, baby.
Well, we got to wrap up.
Liz, do you got anything?
You got any burning questions here?
No, I just, you know, I suggest all our listeners, you're bored at home, check out what the celebs are doing.
They're acting up.
Yeah, no, celebs are going.
Also, Matthew McConaughey, he tweeted that sort of cryptic picture of the witness room.
Oh, yeah, they really like latched onto that.
I wonder if that has to do with a true detective possibly, like a new true detective happening.
Yeah, I can't make sense of that either.
But yeah, they interpret that to me in like, like, oh, all of us Hollywood sickos are confessing to our Q team, basically.
Yeah, well, because Matthew McConaughey has also done other very weird social media posts.
And it's like, I don't know, I kind of like get it because I'm like watching all these things and I'm like, okay, this is weird.
Like it's it's legitimately like what Madonna is doing is legitimately weird even for Madonna.
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It's weird.
But fucking because celebrities are just drama geeks who got way more attention than they than the show.
So of course.
And there's no one to manage them anymore because they're just at home with the internet and they can do whatever they want and they've got terrible taste.
That's the real secret of Hollywood.
All of us Jews, me and my people, we're all germaphobes and so all their managers can't get out and we can't control them.
I'm sorry.
We can't control them.
We've let this society go mad because we're afraid of getting COVID-19.
But, well, thank you so much for joining us.
I tell you, if you like listening about QAnon, listen to Travis' podcast, QAnon Anonymous, because I'm a longtime listener.
Fantastic show.
I cannot personally get enough of QAnon shit.
So big fan there.
If you want to go down the rabbit hole without having to read all your posts yourself, yeah, just type in QAnon Anonymous into your podcasting app.
And yeah, it's a good time.
Awesome.
Anything else you want to boost?
That's it.
I mean, it was like, also on the show, we just started a Twitch stream.
We're doing it twice a week.
It's a lot of fun too.
We do a lot of stories from another one of our co-hosts.
His name is Jake.
He's sort of our storyteller of the group.
And we sort of talk about, we basically, we take these QAnon narratives and we try to make them, I guess, a little bit more entertaining.
We add music.
It's a lot of fun.
What time do you guys do those?
We do those every Monday, usually at 6 p.m. Pacific time, 9 p.m. Eastern, but the time will change.
Check out the QAnon Anonymous Twitter account for any updates on that.
Yeah, we just started doing those.
See, they're fun.
I like the little Twitch guy.
Yeah, it's good.
Well, cool.
Thank you so much.
Yeah.
Thank you so much for having me.
Yeah.
Wonderful.
All right.
will see you next time in the COVID zone.
I hope
I don't die of Corona.
That was Kwazi.
Are you doing an impression of me?
No.
Oh, yeah.
Wait, hold on.
That was...
Wait.
Kwaisy.
Trying to get the vocal fry.
That was quasi.
Wait, can you do it with the QU?
I hate doing stuff on command.
I'm not a monkey.
That's true.
No, no, no, no.
Nor are you a great ape.
However, I am a silverback and I will give it a shot.
That was crazy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So that was crazy.
And I love that Q stuff so much.
Yeah, Liz believes it, which I love.
I mean, not all of it, but you know, the parts that are true.
I'm just like, I'm waiting to snap and just become, I would be so fucking good at this, dude.
That's the thing.
If I wanted to, I could like, fuck this podcast bullshit.
I'm a big fish in a little pond.
If I wanted to, I could fucking jaunt my way over to the damn mainstream and become a Q whisperer and ascend the choir arch.
I mean, I think that's kind of what we're doing in our own.
I guess that's true.
Yeah, true, true.
Respect, true.
And like we mentioned, you can see us do that twice a week coming up on Twitch.
On True TV.
No, it's not true.
Isn't that real?
Isn't that like a thing?
Yeah, that's a TV channel.
You know, I don't watch TV, baby, but you know, I'm just, I'm out here reading Brecht to To the bevy of babes.
That's the little poet thing they call.
You know, the babes, the young babes, love Brecht.
I'll tell you this: you're ever at a bar, fellas, I have this giant Brecht collection and hardback, of course, very expensive.
Well, I got it for a deal, Jewish.
But you bring that thing, you bring that thing to little, the cat club or whatever goth that you're going to, you pop that motherfucker open and you start reading her a poem about workers, buddy, you're in.
They'll be like, The Breakfast Club.
Yeah, Celine is another good one.
Actually, that is, no, I hot girls do like Celine.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, they do like that.
They do be like her.
I've got my copies over there.
He didn't like Jews too much, but I forgive him.
Yeah, yeah, you know, don't focus on separate the art from the artist.
Nude Hampson was a Nazi, too.
I love The Ring is Closed.
And Hunger?
Have you read Hunger by Nude Hampson?
Oh, fantastic.
I have, actually.
It's a very good book.
But he was also a Nazi.
So, but, you know, he's dead.
I'm alive.
I won.
Thank you so much.
I don't want to get into weirder terrorists.
I know.
We're going to get ourselves in trouble.
So we're going to be able to.
Can't sign over Nude Hanson.
They can call me Nude Handsome.
Oh, dude, that's handsome.
No, so yeah, let's sign off before.
Sorry, I drank a tea and I'm going a little crazy.
My name is Brace.
Brace Brecht.
Brace Brecht.
he actually does have a poem or is that Serge Gainsbourg I think that no No, he has a poem called Of Poor BB.
And Serge Gainsberg has a song called Initials BB.
But I always thought Brecht's Of Poor BB was very nice.
I'm like, oh, I've also been.
You are a poor BB.
A little sad sack.
Exactly.
But anyways, this is Brace Brecht.
I'm Liz.
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