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Sept. 26, 2023 - Stew Peters Show

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CrossTalk: David Icke EXPOSES Shapeshifters Among Us, Zelensky Makes Pact With Witches

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	General Witski.
	Commander Zoll.
	At ease.
	We have a problem.
	We're accused of dishonorably discharging too many gay rapists from the military.
	Tomorrow morning, this will be on the front page of every major newspaper.
	Oh, that is not good.
	No, it isn't.
	If word gets out that we're dishonorably discharging our gay rapists...
	We'll be a global laughing stock.
	Exactly.
	But we have the gayest military on Earth.
	I'll have our PR department put together a statement.
	Uh, our PR guy just got arrested.
	Arrested for what?
	He gay raped somebody.
	It was bad.
	Great.
	It was a bad gay rape.
	I did come prepared with a solution.
	What's this?
	Those soldiers who were dishonorably discharged, maybe they'll vouch for us if we give them an opportunity to earn back their honor.
	I'm listening.
	First up, we have Dan Ducky the Drizzler.
	Three counts of aggravated assault and five confirmed gay rapes in a single deployment.
	So he's trans, right?
	She.
	She is a trans woman, yes.
	In addition, we have Velma, or Vlad, the Impaler.
	Four counts of sexual assault in a civilian while deployed.
	About 30 counts of possession of child pornography with intent to distribute.
	And three counts of first-degree murder.
	And he's trans.
	She.
	Again.
	She, my mistake.
	Next up, I don't have his birth name.
	He's known as the Goat Herder Raper.
	Goat Herder Raper.
	How did he get a name like that?
	Well...
	Groans Groans Groans Groans - - Hey!
	Oh!
	you you you Well...
	Oh, that makes sense.
	Next stop.
	Alright, is everybody on this list a gay transgender pedophile rapist?
	No, no.
	Actually, yes.
	Perfect.
	Breaking news, the US military is creating an all trans task force that are yet to be deployed in Ukraine.
	And here's the thing about our trans folk.
	We need them.
	Our boy Zelensky needs them.
	The American military needs our trans heroes.
	And this is yet another W for United States of America.
	I... I can't express how much I love these people.
	These people are saving America one transition at a time.
	All right, it's go time.
	General Witsky, we've lost 50% of the unit already.
	That genocidal maniac, homophobic, psychopath Putin is out of control.
	General Witzke, they haven't been deployed yet.
	Oh.
	Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
	Oh.
	When we don't Thank you.
	Welcome to Crosstalk News.
	I'm Edward Zoll, and this is the wonderful Lauren Witzke.
	We have here with us also our co-host.
	He's not too happy today.
	He's unionizing on us.
	He's unionized.
	He's been reading Karl Barks.
	He's decided, because he wasn't in the skit this week, that he's getting a little bit antsy.
	But he's in good spirits.
	We also are in good spirits, too.
	We have an amazing interview coming up here.
	Yes, we do.
	We got the legendary David Icke joining us to talk about Zelensky's recent decision to bring on Marina Abramovich as an ambassador to Ukraine, overseeing the schools.
	But also, we go into a deep dive about reptiles, shapeshifters, different dimensions.
	It's a great interview.
	You guys are going to love it.
	I think it's going to be really fun.
	In regard to Vladimir Zelenskyy's announcement, because she's getting brought in as an ambassador officially, so now she's considered to be like a diplomat of Ukraine.
	She's going to be in charge of helping the health of kids.
	If you don't know who this lady is, Marina Abramovich, she became very infamous when the WikiLeaks emails came out in 2016.
	There were a series of emails between John Podesta and Marina, and in these emails it detailed John Podesta and others in the Clinton campaign attending what was called as a spirit cooking event.
	Spirit cooking, as you're seeing here on the screen, is not something that you'd want to bring your family to.
	It's not a happy-go-lucky church potluck.
	What they're wiping on the walls there are bodily fluids.
	It appears to be pig blood, they say, but according to the ritual, because this is indeed a satanic ritual, they say it is the reproductive fluids of human beings.
	Yeah, and it's a satanic ritual.
	They try to pass it off as she's just a controversial artist, just a controversial artist.
	But who honestly does spirit cooking seances with government officials?
	A witch.
	Witches do.
	Witches do.
	She's a witch.
	You know, I believe that Hillary Clinton was a witch, too.
	You know, there was the emails, the Potesta emails that said she was going out back to sacrifice a chicken to Moloch.
	You know, normal people don't talk like that.
	It also came out that she had several covens, like actual witch communities that were both praying for her, doing these weird rituals for her, and also doing rituals against her enemies.
	So this came out directly after the election, and then when her husband was the President of the United States, it also came out that she would attend witch gatherings.
	She also dressed up for Halloween as a witch.
	She's been called a witch long before people found out that she was murdering people.
	But with Hillary Clinton, Podesta's, pedophiles in general, we're actually going to talk to David Icke about this.
	This elite has been operating in the background for quite some time.
	They have several things that they love.
	They actually, they fuel themselves off the energy of abused children, the fear of mankind and Of course, they torture individuals and engage in this black magic because it's how they empower their agenda, Satan's agenda.
	In respect to Marina, this isn't the first time she's been engaged with the Ukrainian satanic administration.
	Back in 2021, she was also employed to set up this really creepy monument.
	Of course, people get paid millions of dollars out of our taxpayer funds, mind you, to do crazy stuff.
	But this isn't like a llama farm that was one of the budget items a couple years ago.
	This is a satanic monument.
	As you're seeing on screen, Marina is kind of like she's given this preview of what she was being paid to do.
	Now she's essentially been promoted.
	Now she's in charge of the children, the children who've been going missing.
	The children that have been trafficked.
	I mean, Ukraine, long before the war, was known for sex trafficking.
	Yes.
	And it was also known as a very dark place with lots of black magic, a lot of killings and blood harvesting, other stuff like that.
	I guess Marina is going to fit in just very easily in the Zelensky family.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, you have to think about why did he choose her?
	Why did he specifically choose her?
	I think that now Zelensky is really partnering with the Kingdom of Darkness to take down this Goliath, Russia, and it's evil.
	The Kingdom of Darkness is a well-oiled machine, and they...
	Are able to tap into demonic influences, put curses on people, that kind of thing.
	But that's what Zelensky chose to partner with.
	She is a witch.
	She does put curses on people.
	She does make light of harvesting children, sex trafficking.
	Her art is very, very perverse and it's very dark.
	They call it performance art, I guess, is the thing.
	The only thing she seems to be performing is evil.
	And in respect to the overarching impact, I think, of this war.
	A lot of people, they will watch this if they're They're more normal-minded.
	They'll say, what's wrong?
	You guys are supporting the war?
	Are you supporting Russia?
	No, what we're doing is we're pointing out evil.
	And also, it brings to light, you know, Vladimir Putin, he gave a speech back in 2021 when Marina Abramovich first started her relationship with Zelensky.
	And he spoke about a literal satanic elite that's running the West and that they're being brought into his region to try to kill kids.
	They're trying to bastardize society.
	They're trying to poison, you know, essentially the minds of the youth.
	And Vladimir Putin said at the time that he was going to take a stand to protect the young.
	I have to now wonder if that speech that Vladimir Putin gave in 2021 was in response to people like Marina Abramovich publicly being brought into, you know, the power in Ukraine, you know?
	It was a really weird call, though.
	That's the thing.
	That was a gutsy move to make her a notorious witch, a notorious participant in spirit cooking, and bring her on as an ambassador over children.
	I almost feel like they're mocking us because the support of America and America's involvement in the war is Plummeting.
	Polling numbers are showing that a majority of Americans don't want to continue funding this war.
	They want to end the handout, the military equipment that we're sending over there, another $24 billion.
	Zelensky had to come to D.C. in order to ask for it himself because polling numbers were so bad.
	Why would he choose Marina Abramovich to be an ambassador?
	That was a gutsy move.
	I think he's making a deal with the devil.
	I think that he's making, we're talking about the extreme position that Ukraine's in.
	They are losing this war right now.
	It's taken a lot longer than many people thought it would take for Ukraine to fall apart, but it's because we've been using the full brunt of our production, our war machine in this country, to back Ukraine, give them ammunition, give them soldiers.
	By the way, over the weekend, German soldiers actually died in Ukraine.
	Russian media is reporting that in a tank that was blown up in Ukraine, it was one of the The Leopold IIs, which were given by Germany, a German crew was actually running that tank.
	They've been killed now.
	The Wall Street Journal is reporting that U.S. soldiers and others are also being brought from injuries from Ukraine to Germany to get treatment.
	This war has become global.
	I mean, Sergey Lavrov, who is the foreign minister of Russia, he said at the UN last week that Russia is already at war with America.
	It's in this weird place where we don't call it an open war, but it is an open war.
	Yeah, they don't want to declare it a war, but we are at war, and now Americans are dying too.
	And they keep that secret that we have American soldiers over there.
	They're just like, oh, we're just sending them military equipment or money in order to help them, but you said Americans are getting injured.
	Soldiers are getting injured.
	Yeah, according to the Wall Street Journal, they said they're being treated in hospitals on U.S. bases in Germany.
	I bring all this up to say is that Volodymyr Zelensky knows he's in a rough situation.
	Right.
	He's in a tight situation, and of course he's going to turn to black magic, possibly, to try to turn away.
	So you literally now have witches and warlocks and black magic being employed to try to defeat Russia.
	Yes.
	Russia, the Christian nation.
	Yeah.
	So, this country is also in throws to it.
	I know that there's a test coming up in the next week.
	Our cell phones, we've always treated them as listening devices.
	Oh, right.
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	I see the comments.
	A lot of you are...
	We're noticing that we're drastically improving, and that's because of you, a big part of it.
	Boy, our family.
	Our family watches and supports us every single week.
	You know, we're in this fight together, and we'll all be in this fight together next Wednesday, October 4th, at about 2.20 p.m.
	Eastern.
	There's going to be a nationwide cellular test.
	Now, the emergency broadcast system, it's an old system.
	They're going to be doing it on radio and TV, of course, this Wednesday.
	But something new.
	This will be the second time they've done a full nation cellular alert.
	The government is going to activate all our cell phones and make it buzz and make it screech and will send us a text.
	Some people say this is just a test.
	Why do you care about this kind of stuff?
	I find it very intriguing that at a time when our primary ally is losing a war, we have rumors of a new pandemic beginning.
	We've got many people coming down with weird illnesses.
	And you also have the economy, the stock market, all other things in this country kind of shutting down.
	Our cell phones are working fine.
	Why do they need to send a national test?
	What are they doing?
	I think they are testing to see if they can activate and shut down our ability to communicate.
	Officially, what they're doing is they're testing to see if they can give us a warning.
	But see, warnings work both ways.
	They're also testing to see if they can send us a message and potentially turn off our ability to send messages.
	Yeah, but we get Amber Alerts all the time.
	You know, I remember in Florida, somebody accidentally pressed the button and all of our phones went off at like 4 a.m.
	Yeah, so our phones are working fine.
	So what is this really?
	Well, I've been paying attention to the conflicts over the last couple of years.
	And in Turkey in 2016, the first move that the Turkish government made while a coup was kind of underway is they shut down the cellular networks for people to communicate.
	This also happened in Nagorno-Kabarnak, the territory between Armenia and Azerbaijan.
	In this war there, they shut down the ability of people to send each other text messages, send each other messages via the cellular networks.
	This is, I think, what the government's doing.
	They would like to, as they curtail our ability to talk to one another online through these hate speech laws, they also want to control our ability to communicate with the cell phones.
	Happy-go-luckily made available for all of us to buy.
	I think the government allowed this technology and accelerated it so they eventually could control our speech.
	But next Wednesday, we all get together, get to experience a test.
	Some people, Lauren, they are going to be shutting off their phones preemptively and putting them in like Faraday cages.
	Reading online, a lot of folks are going to turn off their televisions, turn off their cell phones.
	They're going to try to stop the government from being able to connect to their cell phones.
	I might join them.
	It sounds like an interesting thing.
	But we are going to be talking about this and much more with our guest, David Icke.
	He is one of the OGs of, I'd say, fighting the tyrants, fighting the evil.
	They call him a conspiracy theorist.
	In his first interviews, they rolled out that term.
	It was because he was calling out their sins, calling out their hidden ones.
	He was just early.
	A lot of people are early, but they aren't wrong.
	And then they get...
	All the heat.
	He was speaking out when it mattered.
	That's the thing.
	That's really how you can tell.
	It's easy to hop on the bandwagon or the anti-vaxxer bandwagon now that everybody knows.
	But if you were there before and you were calling out this evil before and the sin before and all the corruption and the collusion and the global networks back in the 90s, Like, you know, they called you a joke.
	They told you you were a clown.
	He was just early.
	A lot of people, there's a lot to learn from him.
	Well, especially about how they've controlled society.
	Yes.
	I think that in regard to 5G and frequencies, we became aware of this topic because of the pandemic.
	David was talking about this long before it was an acceptable topic.
	So we have this and much more to talk with David Ickwith.
	I think it's a good time to bring him into the program.
	Well, it's my distinct honor to invite onto Crosstalk News right now, David Icke.
	Welcome to the program, sir.
	Legend, we are so happy to have you.
	I am going to fangirl you this entire interview because I have been a huge fangirl.
	It's so cool.
	When we all started our political awakening and spiritual awakening at that, everyone read your book.
	You were the first person to question the elite.
	And what you said, especially about the global pedophiles and feeding off the fear of children, it's all true.
	It's all been proven true.
	You know, with the Epstein scandal, Adrenochrome, these other things, it's almost as if now the world is asked, what are we going to do about it?
	I was just going to say, I'm speaking to you from the iconic studio in Derby, England, which my son runs that platform.
	We've got a show here called Classified, and we had Juliette Bryan on last week, who is someone who's well known as someone who was abused by Epstein.
	And she was saying in the interview that she the thing that shocked her more than anything else was seeing Epstein shift into a quote dragon stroke reptilian type form.
	And you know what I'm finding interesting now is as this dystopia unfolds people are starting to see more and more that it's an anti-human agenda.
	What are they trying to do?
	They're trying to control all the basic means of survival of humans.
	They want to control the food.
	They want to control the water.
	They want to control the energy.
	They're messing around with the air and the atmosphere.
	And so more and more people are just coming to the conclusion that maybe it's not so crazy to think that an anti-human agenda could actually be run, driven by a non-human force.
	There's a big change taken place.
	Not in the massive, massive, vast numbers of people, but more than ever before, people are opening their minds to this and this whole satanic connection, which, you know, if you talk for long enough, everything connects completely.
	All of it.
	The satanic, the paedophilia, the non-human, the 15-minute cities, all of it connects.
	And it's a massive tapestry of control.
	And I've just got a book out called The Dream, in which I go seriously deeper in the rabbit hole and take this whole thing, not just...
	In this reality, but I take it out of this reality, from where this reality is actually being controlled from.
	In respect to what you said about Jeffrey Epstein, of course, we feel like we're warriors in this fight against this evil entity, these evil forces in the world.
	Jeffrey Epstein specifically, I spoke to Maria Farmer, who's another one of the victims, and she described Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell as subhuman.
	She suspected that they were cannibals, and then also that they fed off the fear and pain of the victims.
	Yeah, you had said that she, it became obvious when Ghislaine, she was like a big college graduate, very smart woman, but her brain started deteriorating.
	Now, that is a result of eating people.
	And they had a special chef who ended up dying mysteriously later on.
	And I know there's a lot of theories that came out of that.
	However, if somebody is so wicked and able to traffic children, to seduce and traffic and sell children and young girls, there's no limit to how far that evil will go.
	Like, there's no goalposts because it's not like, oh, I'm only going to go this far.
	No, they will go all the way.
	And, you know, it is it is deeply rooted evil.
	And the thing that people need to remember is that Epstein serviced big global leaders.
	It wasn't just, you know, small-time or no-name businessmen.
	He was servicing global politicians, leaders of countries.
	And when he died, you know, I think, or when he was arrested, there was a lot of mass panic because a lot of people were going to get caught.
	And the fact that they have not released Like, essentially, his entire black book and all of his clients goes to show me that there's a big cover-up and more people were involved than we ever knew.
	And David, you know probably a lifetime of information.
	Lauren and I, we know a little bit.
	You know, we've been reading, we've been paying attention for at least a decade now.
	You've been paying attention for, well, before I was born.
	And one of the toughest things for us, especially as people are looking at what's happening in the world, the satanic elite trying to rework society and literally feed off of the regular people, the normal people in the world, staying encouraged, like staying, you know, kind of in the fight.
	For you, I know that you're very big in family.
	I listened to one of your speeches back in 2012, and you mentioned your son, you mentioned your family.
	How have you stayed encouraged and emboldened, despite potential setbacks, despite the evil literally coming out and being in our face now in 2023?
	Well, there's a few things that come out of all that.
	First of all, Elaine Maxwell's father, who I actually met once, he was the chairman of a football club, and I was doing a documentary on that football club for the BBC, and I met him once at the Daily Mirror, which he owned at one point, Robert Maxwell.
	And he was one of the most unpleasant pieces of work I've ever met.
	The way he talked to his staff was extraordinary, in front of us.
	And he was a Mossad agent.
	And so she's the daughter of a Mossad agent.
	So that's not an accident when organizations like Mossad and the CIA, if you go deep enough, They're the same organization.
	Maybe we could get into this.
	Once you realize, actually, you go deep enough into any of these organizations, you're actually hitting the web where they're all the same organization with the same agenda.
	Everything starts to fall into place.
	But I've kept going because the...
	Just the concept of not keeping going is impossible for me to contemplate.
	You know, I've been doing this for a very long time, my 34th year now, and I've seen people come, and I've seen them go, and I've seen them come, and I've seen them go.
	They've been flavor of the month for five minutes and gone and all that stuff.
	And I look at them and I think, where have you bloody gone?
	When you realize...
	What is happening, the scale of where it's coming from and where it's meant to go, you simply can't walk away.
	You can't look little kids in the eyes.
	You can't look your own children and grandchildren in the eye and then walk away.
	You have to do everything you can to head this off to its ultimate conclusion.
	And I must say, you know, people will look around the world, I do understand it, and they'll say, more people need to wake up.
	Yes, they only do.
	But I remember 1990.
	91, 92, 93, on through the 90s, across the millennium, when it was very difficult to get anyone interested in this.
	But over the last few years, particularly since the COVID card was played, and it became much more difficult for people to have that getaway car of the mind and think, oh, no, there's nothing really going on.
	It's just a conspiracy theory.
	It's coming more and more in people's faces and they're finding it more and more difficult to actually look the other way.
	Lots of people still are.
	Lots of people no longer are.
	So I am encouraged from my own perspective of seeing what it was like 30 years ago to what it's like now.
	I've gone from walking down the street and being ridiculed mercilessly by people constantly all the time.
	If ever people walked past me, if ever I turned around, I knew what I would see with people laughing and making faces.
	And it was just my life for year after year after year after year.
	Now, I've been up here in Derby at Iconic for two or three days.
	I'm walking around the streets.
	People are constantly stopping me and asking me about...
	What's going on?
	And, you know, encouragement, keep going, keep going, don't stop.
	And it's like you pinch yourself, ouch, it's actually real, the transformation that's gone on.
	And that transformation in the perception of me is just an expression of Of the transformation among vast numbers of people, of what they would once have waved away.
	Oh, come on.
	Now there's time to see it's real.
	So, you know, there's lots of bad things going on.
	There really are.
	But there's a lot of good things starting to happen as well.
	It's true.
	There has been a great awakening.
	I remember hearing about the new world order years ago and thinking, wow, that is so far away.
	You know, is there really a plan for global dominance by a particular group of people?
	And it seemed like it was such a foreign concept.
	But then COVID happened.
	Then the elections happened.
	And now it's a lot of people are awake now because during COVID, everything changed.
	In a matter of a year, they were able to start tracking us, We're good to go.
	But they are able to move and they are able to move quickly.
	And so many people, it took them a while to catch up, but they are starting to awaken now at how far they will go, what they are capable of, and how much power they actually have.
	And now there is, you know, even though it is tragic what is happening, There is a mass awakening of people that are starting to realize, hey, this new world order, this global dominance agenda, this Agenda 2030, this is not that far away.
	This could actually happen because look at what they did to us in a matter of a year and a half during COVID. Well, absolutely.
	And, you know, David, when you speak to this, you know, I remember that time.
	You know, I remember after reading your first book, and it was back actually 2012 is when I first found your content.
	And I started mentioning some of the things that you had spoken about and given in speeches about.
	Yeah, people were like, that's crazy.
	That's absolutely bonkers.
	I was like, no, man, I think it's real.
	I think there's a satanic elite.
	I think David knows what he's talking about.
	Lauren and I are living representations of that seed you planted.
	You know, you don't need us to encourage you, but I'll tell you, we will cheer you and we will encourage you to know that everything we do now, in part, was from you taking that leap of faith, that stand for humanity.
	Now, with respect to these shapeshifters, you mentioned that you spoke to an Epstein victim.
	I do want to talk about this real quick.
	A victim said they actually witnessed Jeffrey Epstein shapeshift.
	Yeah.
	They're like dirty and elitist and satanic, but I've never heard that.
	That's interesting.
	Yeah.
	Well, I've been, of course, writing about the shape-shifting nature of these people.
	I mean, so what happened?
	First of all, Julie O'Brien did a long interview for Iconic with Richard Willett.
	Without his prompting, he came out with that.
	And you see, there's two worlds.
	There's the world of what I call the global cult.
	And that world, which is fiercely compartmentalized, so most of the people even in that world don't know the real picture, the big picture.
	But what's hoarded in the secret society network at the inner core is, yes, of course, it's the agenda for humanity, which they don't want us to know, although, you know, the closer they get to imposing it, their end goal, The more obvious it is what's happening, the more difficult it is for them to keep that quiet.
	And more and more people are starting to see it now because it's becoming more blatant as they impose the society they've been working towards for so long.
	I said a long time ago.
	This has got to get really bad before we can turn this around, because only then, when it's here, will people in enough numbers realise that inaction is...
	Not an option.
	So you have this situation where during COVID, they basically entered the room so we could see them.
	They were under the radar before, which is why people were dismissing all this stuff.
	But now it's increasingly in our face.
	And the whole...
	The basis of the information that's passed on through the secret society network and kept from the population, that's why they're secret societies, is A, the nature of the agenda until now, but the key one, bigger even than that, Is to keep from humanity the nature of reality itself.
	The nature of the very reality we're experiencing and the nature of the I that's experiencing it.
	So we're told the most extraordinary tapestry of lies about the very...
	The very world we're living in.
	And because of the nature of this world and how it works, it's specifically created, I'll go into this in detail in the dream, to be a perceptual prison.
	To give us the impression that we're living in a world of a certain kind when it's nothing like that.
	And this is fundamental to shape-shifting.
	Because if you believe that the world is solid, then the idea of someone, apparently human, shifting into another form in front of someone's eyes is just, it's impossible.
	You're mad, you are!
	I had all that stuff.
	But hold on a minute.
	The world's not solid.
	That's the point.
	And the other thing is that, and this should be taught to children at the earliest age that they could grasp it, is that people think that when they look through their eyes, they're looking at everything in the space before them.
	They're not.
	They're looking.
	They're seeing.
	They're able to perceive visually a tiny, tiny, ludicrously narrow It's called visible light.
	And according to mainstream science, the electromagnetic spectrum, which is basically this reality, is 0.005% of what exists in the universe.
	Some say it's as high as 0.5%, whatever, it's tiny.
	And visible light, which is the only band of frequency we can see, everything we're looking at now and everyone watching this show is looking at now is within that band of frequency, is a smear, a tiny fraction of the 0.005%.
	So humans are basically blind.
	The vast, overwhelming majority of infinite reality is unseen by the human visual decoding system.
	So immediately that makes you a little bit humble.
	You start to realize, well, not only don't I know it all, have you seen how much more there is to know that I can't know in the reality that I'm experiencing?
	And then you look at solidity.
	If you look at atoms, which are supposed to be building blocks of the solid physical world, they're empty.
	As one quote said, If the nucleus at the centre of an atom was the size of a 10 cent piece, then the atom itself would be the size of a baseball stadium by comparison.
	They're empty.
	So what we're looking at is a world which is not as we're experiencing it.
	It's as we are decoding it.
	And what is really obvious to me as I look at the world is as this explosion of technology comes in and artificial intelligence to take over the world,
	that's what it's doing, What it is, it's a technological mimicking of the very reality that we're experiencing and how we experience it.
	So, for instance, if you said to someone who knew nothing about computers, nothing, and you said that in this room is a field of radiation that contains an entire global reality, And you can tap into it in Australia, in South Africa, in America, in Britain, anywhere.
	They didn't know about computers.
	They would say, you're mad, mate.
	Where is it?
	I can't see it.
	But if you said the same thing to someone now who does know about computers and Wi-Fi, then instead of going, you're mad, mate, They'd go, oh yeah, Wi-Fi, computers, I know about that, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And the only difference between you're mad and, oh yeah, I know about that, yeah, yeah, is knowledge.
	If you don't know about computers, oh, that's madness.
	If you do, well, yeah, everybody knows that, mate.
	This is the power of suppressing knowledge, and particularly knowledge about the nature of reality.
	So then you say to people, okay, tell me about the Internet.
	And they say, oh yeah, it's videos and it's text and it's graphics and stuff on the screen.
	Yeah, but only on the screen.
	Everywhere else, it's Wi-Fi, Wi-Fi fields, and electronic codes.
	The only place the internet exists as...
	It's described and perceived is on the screen.
	And the next question is, where is the information that you're looking at on the screen?
	Is it over there?
	Is it over there or up there?
	No.
	It's inside the computer.
	That's where that reality exists in the form that we see it.
	Now, if we just...
	Break off from that technological side of things, and let's look at how we create reality.
	And this is mainstream science.
	I mean, how they've not put this together, I mean, you know, pinch me.
	What the five senses do, and the five senses are that which lock us into this fake reality.
	What I call the simulation or the matrix, some people call it.
	The five senses, what they're doing is they're taking waveform information.
	I mean, the ears are a classic.
	They're picking up sound waves.
	But all those senses are picking up vibrational frequency information.
	And they turn it into electrical information, which is then communicated to the brain.
	And different parts of the brain are specialized in decoding information from the different senses.
	And then the brain forms it together in a sense of reality.
	And the way we experience that it's a digital holographic reality, not a solid one.
	It's holographic, illusory, solid.
	And so we experience this world as outside of us, but it's in here, just like the Internet's in the computer.
	And so all this background, and you can see what I mean when I say if you can suppress the nature of reality, you bewilder and bamboozle people and get them to dismiss things that are actually happening as impossible because they think they are.
	Let's just break that down to shape-shifting.
	What the body is, is an information field, like Wi-Fi.
	And we are decoding that wave field information into a holographic reality.
	And these particular bloodlines that are part human, part non-human, they're hybrids.
	They have a human field and they have a non-human field, which is the real self.
	But they have this dual field.
	Field, not physical body.
	Field.
	And so the vast majority of the time, obviously, the human field is projected into the world.
	The other ones in the background.
	So when I'm looking at someone, one of these hybrids, My decoding system I've just described is going to show me a human.
	It's going to show me a solid human in my perspective.
	And then With this shape-shifting, and of course, this is an ancient thing.
	I mean, we talk about shape-shifting, going back into the ancient world.
	And, you know, people maybe watching this are going, what's he on?
	I've not sat in a room smoking something, pulling this stuff out of the ether.
	I have met enormous numbers of people all over the world, I've been doing this for 34 years, I've been in about 60 odd countries, who have described to me having this very experience.
	People are completely unconnected to each other in different countries, different cultures.
	So what is happening?
	They're looking at the human part of the dual field.
	And they're sitting in a human.
	But then there's a shift, not a physical shift, there is an energetic shift so that the other part of the field, the non-human part, becomes the dominant one.
	Now to the observer, they've been looking at a human and suddenly they're seeing them change shape into a human.
	Into a non-human.
	As if there's been a physical shift, but there is no physical.
	It's been an energetic information shift and a decoded by the observer shift, and thus one seems to have gone from one physical body to another physical body.
	It's not what's happened.
	And the other thing, too, about very simple things start to become clear once you start to grasp the nature of reality.
	For instance, it's entered visible light.
	I can see it.
	The observer can see it.
	And to the observer, it's come out of nowhere.
	David, you were just giving an example.
	If you wouldn't mind going back to that, you exited the Wi-Fi physical zone.
	You disconnected for just a moment.
	But you were still here with us.
	Go over that example.
	The point is that when it leaves visible light to the observer, it seems to disappear.
	And so all these things where they say, oh, that's impossible, mate.
	No, no.
	Don't confuse what's possible with your perception of possibility.
	And that's the big mistake that people make.
	And it's the mistake they are manipulated to make by the suppression of knowledge about the nature of reality.
	So I had heard this.
	It was a radio show.
	There was a man.
	I remember this story a while ago.
	It was a man who was fleeing Area 51.
	He was a scientist there.
	He was working there.
	And he had called into this radio show.
	And he was, like, obviously distressed.
	He sounded very...
	Very sincere and horrified.
	But he had said, you know, there's a lot of talks about aliens.
	You know, they talk about all the time.
	In Mexico, it just came out that there was aliens found.
	But this man fleeing Area 51 had said, it's not aliens.
	They are working with interdimensional beings.
	It is not just, you know, what we see in reality.
	They are entering another dimension.
	The governments of the world are figuring out a way to cross over into that dimension.
	What are your thoughts on that?
	Well, I've been writing about that for so long, and in the dream, I go deeper in the rabbit hole with it than ever before.
	I mean, that's exactly what's happening.
	You know, as we build on what I said about visible light, and we can't see the rest of infinite reality, only that tiny band of frequency, we can see almost nothing.
	Creation, or at least the part of it that we are experiencing, is broken up into frequencies like radio and television stations.
	Call them dimensions, if you like.
	That's a simple way of putting it, but it will do for this, for what I'm talking about.
	So these dimensions are not on top of each other like Chester drawers.
	They're sharing the same space like the old analog radio and television stations.
	You know, you've got the zapper in your hand and you press the zapper and you get a channel.
	You then press another zapper and you get another channel.
	What's happened on the screen?
	There's been a shape shift.
	You've gone from one frequency, wavelength, to another.
	Now, when you're on a radio station and then you go to another radio station, now the second radio station is your reality.
	It's what you hear.
	But the first radio station you've just left hasn't ceased to exist.
	It still exists.
	It's just you're not tuned to it anymore.
	And what this body does, I've been calling it since the 1990s, the biological computer, it is decoding, A reality in a certain frequency band.
	And so that's the reality we appear to be experiencing.
	And so when people leave the body at what they call near-death experiences, they describe a completely different reality that doesn't conform to our so-called laws of physics.
	I can get into what they really are as well, if you like.
	Because they've left the decoding system.
	When the body ceases to function, it ceases to decode this reality.
	And therefore, consciousness is no longer subject to that reality input, and therefore starts to experience reality outside the body, which is a different kind of reality.
	So when I was going down the levels of the rabbit hole, if you like, In the early 90s, I started realizing that the world was not controlled by people that appeared to be controlling it, presidents, prime ministers, etc.
	But actually, there was this global cult of secret societies that were pulling the strings.
	And then I started looking at, well, obviously, it didn't start five years ago or 50 years ago.
	To get to its current state, it had to go back a very long time.
	So you go back and you start to go back to Ancient Babylon and Egypt and other different parts of the world, but particularly that area seems to be very, very significant.
	And then you say, okay, well, it goes back that far and it came up through the Roman Empire and colonization of the world from Europe made it go global and globalization even more and so on and so forth.
	But then you think, well, there's been people then being born Playing a part in advancing this cult to more and more power until it's now global.
	And then they die and then other people come in and they do the same.
	And then they die and other people come in and they do the same.
	And I thought, well, there has to be a coordinating force through all this.
	There has to be something that spans that whole period that is actually orchestrating it.
	And when you go down that road, that's when, as you mentioned, you go out of this reality, which is not saying much because this reality is so very narrow anyway.
	And you go into a realm.
	If you call this the third dimension, then we'll call that the fourth dimension.
	Some people call it the astral dimension.
	It's what it's widely known as in the esoteric circles.
	And what it is...
	The upper levels of this astral dimension, in frequency terms, are a long way comparatively from this wavelength, human world.
	But the lower levels of the astral realm, the lower frequency levels, they basically bleed into this one.
	You could imagine, like, you put on a radio station, and that's your major station.
	But there's an interference from another station.
	Why?
	Because the frequency is not the same as the main station, which is why your main station is dominating your ears, but it's close enough that you can hear it interfering.
	And that's basically this point where the astral meets the human world of the five senses.
	That's where these demonic gods are, at that lower level of the astral.
	That's who the ancients were sacrificing people to openly when it was acceptable to do that.
	They were making offerings to the gods, often young virgins, which is just code for children, And when I started investigating this, and I'm going deeper and deeper in the rabbit hole with this cult and the cultists and the people involved, invariably it led me to Satanism and paedophilia, which are fundamentally connected for reasons I can explain as well.
	And so my next question is, okay, what?
	So they've been sacrificing to the gods back in the ancient world, And these rich and famous people you see on the news and stuff, they're doing it now.
	So what's going on?
	Well, it was obvious what's going on.
	They're worshipping the same gods today as they were before because those gods are these astral entities, these demonic astral entities that are operating in the lower level of the astral dimension.
	So when anthropologists and historians go along and they start kind of what they think is researching ancient cultures and beliefs, they'll go, okay, so they...
	They worship them gods, and they worship them gods, and they worship them gods.
	No, no, mate.
	Deep breath.
	Forget the bloody names.
	You've got different cultures, so you're going to have different names, mate.
	Look at how they're describing them.
	Look at what they're saying about them.
	And you'll see they're the same gods.
	So you have the pantheon of Greek gods and the pantheon of these gods.
	You have the New Age kind of pantheon called the Great White Brotherhood and all this stuff.
	These are these entities.
	Now, you know, they're doing sacrifice rituals and satanic rituals.
	To these gods, as the ancients were, they're doing offerings to the gods.
	So then my question was, well, what do the bloody gods get out of it then?
	What are the offerings?
	And then you start to realize, the more you get deeper and deeper into the understanding of reality, you start to realize what it's all about and why these cultists are doing these rituals.
	This is mainstream science again.
	Every time we think and every time we feel emotion, We are producing a frequency.
	We're basically broadcasting a frequency.
	And the frequency is dictated by the nature of the thought and the nature of the emotion.
	So things like fear, which is what the calling card of the control system, fear, anxiety, depression, resentment, regret, all these things, hatred, they're low, slow frequencies.
	Joy, love, They're high frequencies.
	And so when you are these demonic gods, and something you mentioned earlier, one of the most difficult things to get across to people over these last 34 years is just the scale of bloody evil we're dealing with.
	I mean, it's just extraordinary.
	I hear, oh, they would never do that.
	Oh, they would, and they'd love it, mate.
	So if you're in that...
	Demonic state of being, then in terms of frequency, it's a low, slow frequency.
	So you can only absorb energy as your sustenance, as your nutrient, as your power, that's in that frequency band.
	Otherwise, you're like radio stations on different wavelengths, never the twain shall meet.
	And so what this fake reality I call the simulation has been created to do Is manipulate human perception, first of all about the very reality they're living in, but then events in the world, suffering, war, all this stuff, it's being done to generate a perceptual response from the population that generates low vibrational frequencies.
	And in the astral, you see, okay, You feel emotion, you have thoughts, you generate frequencies.
	Okay, where are they?
	You know, when people are in an emotional state, you can see the body language.
	Yeah, okay, I'll get you.
	You're frightened.
	And you can, if you're sensitive, you can feel the vibes coming off people.
	But you can't see...
	The frequency is coming off them as a result of the emotional and mental state.
	So where is it?
	It's in the astral.
	It's going into that astral dimension.
	It's why we can't see it.
	And these gods are...
	It's their sustenance.
	So when Morpheus, in the first Matrix movie, held up a battery and said, this is a computer-generated dream world designed to turn humans into one of these, a battery, it was a profound truth, actually, that was being spoken.
	So then you come to the actual rituals that the ancients did and these cultists do now.
	And it's a form of the same thing.
	What they do, and there's a reason that they're still doing Babylonian and Egyptian rituals today, is because of the effect they have.
	That's why they do it.
	They build up the terror, the absolute terror in the victim.
	And as that terror increases and increases, more and more powerful, low vibrational frequencies, terror and extreme of fear, are going out into the astral.
	And these, quote, gods are absorbing it.
	That's the offering to the gods.
	Sacrifice to the gods, that's the dynamic.
	And at the same time, this terror is at the chemical level of the body, the decoded level of the body, if you like, is causing an adrenaline to enter the blood, which these people, sick as they are, to them it is a drug.
	It gives them a high.
	And so what you've got in these satanic rituals, these major ones, that involve all these famous people, Is the sacrifice to the gods, which is the terror frequency going into the astral and the adrenaline going into the blood, which these people in this reality, in the satanic ritual, then drink.
	And get the high from.
	And, you know, I have spoken to people all over the world who've taken part in satanic rituals, overwhelmingly against their will, others that have seen the bloody light, that have described the same recurring rituals.
	And also, by the way, how some of the major, major rituals, they are designed to...
	Thin out the dimensional difference between our reality and this lower astral reality.
	And it's almost like a conduit they create so that these entities can slip through into our reality.
	I've had that described to me many times, of these often hideous-looking entities manifesting in the rituals.
	They can't stay here for long, different frequency, but they can manifest.
	And so this is what's really going on.
	And so you have this stuff with the Clintons and I've been writing about the Clintons since 1994.
	There was a body count then, never mind what it is now.
	And all these kind of expressions where it's kind of bubbles to the surface, like you've got Epstein.
	Epstein would have been into satanic ritual.
	He absolutely would.
	And then we've had this guy in Britain, of course, Jimmy Savile.
	And I was given chapter and verse by him, by a close friend of Princess Diana, close friend for nine years anyway.
	In the late 1990s.
	Unfortunately, I went public with it in my book, Biggest Secret.
	But she didn't want to go public with it, so there's a limit to what you could do.
	But she described to me how this Jimmy Savile, who, first of all, He was just a disc jockey.
	He played records on the radio for the BBC and then Top of the Pops, a television pop show.
	And yet, he became immensely bloody rich.
	Houses everywhere, big cars, what?
	And in his own words, he was invited into the inner circle of the British royal family by a guy called Lord Mountbatten, who was a known paedophile.
	And he was in the inner core of the British royal family, close friend of Prince Philip until they had a big Barney falling out, apparently, and close friend of Prince Charles, now King Charles, right up to his death.
	I think Saville died in 2011, something like that.
	And so why?
	Why was he a close friend, Savile, of Margaret Thatcher?
	Why was he a close friend of other than the Thatcher cabinet of the time in the 1990s?
	Why or the 1980s?
	Why was he a close friend of Ted Heath, the British Prime Minister, a massive paedophile?
	Got a story to tell about him, if you like.
	And personally.
	And he was the one that took us into the European Union, and he was very much a gopher for the cold.
	Is Mr.
	Heath the one that shapeshifted next to you at Sky?
	Yeah, I'll tell you about that in a sec.
	Why was this Savile so close to all these people?
	Because this is what was missed when he Historic level of pedophile.
	But also, what also came out, not given so much prominence, but what also came out, he said, well, he's a Satanist.
	He took by a satanic ritual.
	Of course he bloody did.
	And the thing that didn't come out is that the reason he got so rich and the reason they watched his back, so even though the police knew what he was doing, they did nothing about it, It was because he was a procurer of children for the rich and famous, including the royal family.
	And in the Ted Heath story, I mean, this happened to me before my colossal, mind-blowing awakening in 1990.
	This was in the 1980s, probably about a year before, funnily enough, it all happened.
	And I was a national spokesman for the British Green Party.
	I know, I'm not proud of it.
	I do apologise.
	But in those days, the Green Party hadn't been completely taken over by this madness of human-caused global warming and the hoax surrounding that to justify dystopia.
	And it gave me phenomenal insight into politics, having been in it only for about a year and a half, 18 months.
	To see that there was no way politics was going to be the answer to anything.
	It was the problem.
	It was a diversion from the real solution, which is we stop cooperating with our own enslavement en masse, and the House of Cards comes down.
	Anyway, in 1989, yeah, it would have been 1989, just the year before my awakening.
	The Green Party suddenly had this...
	I'd only been a national spokesman for it for about, I don't know, nine months or so.
	It had this bloody massive election vote in the European elections.
	What about two million votes?
	Well, you've got a man and a dog before.
	And so because of this, I was invited to the Sky television studio, news studio, to comment on the results coming in with some of the other party representatives.
	So I turn up And I get taken into the makeup room by this lady, and the door was open.
	And so I walked in, and she said, someone will come and see you in a minute.
	Okay, thank you much.
	And I thought I was in an empty room.
	There's no one else around.
	So I sat down, and you're looking at them mirrors, you know, the lights, that stuff you get in those places.
	And so he caught me to my right.
	And I turn.
	It's Teddy, Prime Minister, for the time they took us into the European Union.
	Still a member of Parliament at the time.
	And he's sitting behind the door.
	That's why I couldn't see him.
	So I look at him.
	And, you know, I've been friendly.
	I don't know.
	All right, mate.
	And he never said a word, not a word, in this entire sequence.
	He looked at me.
	And then he turned to look at me and stare at me.
	And I'm looking at him thinking, what the hell?
	And he started to get this inquisitive look on his face.
	That's all I could describe it.
	It was like...
	that kind of thing.
	And then he starts scanning me.
	I can only describe it as scanning me.
	His eyes started at the top of my head and went down to my feet And then went back again.
	And not saying a word for any of this.
	And while he was doing that, his eyes went completely black.
	I mean the whites as well.
	They were literally black eyes, entirety of the eyes.
	And when I was looking at him, it was like looking through, you know, if I'm looking at someone and someone's looking at me, we make eye contact.
	There's a point where your eyes make contact.
	When I was looking at him as his eyes went black, it was like looking through him.
	Into some other reality.
	I now know exactly what I was doing.
	Because he was a shapeshifter.
	I've met people since that have experienced that with him.
	And so I had no idea at the time what I'd just seen.
	I came back to my family.
	I said, you'll never guess what I've just experienced.
	I'm just having this Ted bloody Heath.
	And then a year later, and the sequence started, which led me to understanding what the hell happened that night.
	And, you know, there's loads and loads of stories around the world.
	People who they call black eyed people, they just literally their eyes turn black.
	And it's a world that can be explained, but not according to the explanation of reality that we're given.
	And that's why we're given that explanation, because then we'll never grasp what's really going on.
	Yeah, I certainly think that there is, you know, as a Christian, You know, people need to recognize like in Genesis, God spoke the frequencies.
	That is how he created creation was through his voice.
	The power of life and death is in the tongue.
	Exactly.
	The power of life and death is in the tongue.
	So there's certainly and God is the creator of everything on this earth.
	And I certainly do agree that there is something to these frequencies.
	Now, I wanted to ask you a question in regard to Zelensky hiring Marina Abramovich.
	So she was well known with the Podestas, the Clintons, as a spirit cooker.
	She would hold seances.
	According to the Podesta emails, they would have spirit cooking dinners.
	Hillary Clinton had talked about sacrificing a chicken to Moloch.
	Well, Moloch had been one of those demon gods that we have talked about.
	You would talk about these different gods, different cultures, but he's always the same.
	It's the same sacrifice.
	That's what they're doing at Bohemian Grove, of course.
	It's an expression of their worship to these astral demonic gods.
	Now, what are your thoughts on Zelensky bringing on Marina Abramovich to oversee the schools as the ambassador in Ukraine, all the children in Ukraine?
	What are your thoughts on that?
	Well what they're doing is moving towards creating a world in which their world becomes our world.
	That's why, for instance, they are trying to normalize pedophilia with descriptions like minor attractive person.
	And I said earlier that pedophilia and satanism are connected, and they are.
	And this has been explained to me many, many times by people who would know.
	Pedophiles are basically...
	Possessed.
	We have an energetic field, an electromagnetic field, and entities, if that field falls into a frequency that matches that of the demonic entities, then they can attach to the field and they can start influencing behavior and perception.
	And the deal with the paedophile is when they're abusing the child, the paedophile is the conduit between the child's energetic field and the demonic energetic field.
	And the energy of the child is being drawn out to be absorbed by the entity.
	And so when I've traveled around the world, whether it's downtown Washington or whether it's somewhere in South Africa or elsewhere around the world, the same story goes on.
	And that is of the number of children that go missing every year, never to be seen again.
	You know, years ago, back in the 1990s, I met a lady in America when I was going around talking, but I wasn't talking to anybody.
	No one wanted to know, really.
	But I met so many people that gave me so much information.
	And this lady was married to someone who was then murdered.
	And they were in the process of fostering two children, two small children, with a view to adopting them.
	And what happened is this lady turns up one day and said, I read about you in the paper.
	I want to help you.
	Can I be a nanny to your children to help you over this period?
	So she accepted and she became the nanny.
	Long story short, social services then gave the children to the nanny And took them away from the lady.
	And they did it on the grounds that the lady was no longer married and she would have been a one-parent family, so that wasn't good enough to adopt them.
	Except that the nanny was a one-parent family, right?
	And this all happened in the area of...
	Of Colorado, with Jean Benet Ramsey, just not far from there, actually, in Boulder.
	And so I tried to help this lady, and one of the things I did was to ring the federal government agency and ask how many children went missing every year.
	They couldn't tell me.
	They could probably tell me how many cars were missing, but not children.
	And what they said to me is, you've got to ring every state capital government and get the numbers from each state.
	Well, I think I got to about 12.
	And the number by then was absolutely staggering.
	What happens is people equate the number of children that go missing every year with missing children stories on the news.
	It's nothing like the same thing.
	And then I met Credo Mutwa, the Zulu shaman in South Africa.
	And he was telling me that they had groups of men in his village.
	Who was specifically designated to watch the children because they were being targeted for disappearing.
	And he was telling me how the scale of what was going on in that regard in Africa, not just South Africa.
	And so you have this common theme of children.
	And, you know, there comes a point Which we call puberty.
	Now, we see that as a chemical change, a hormonal change in the body.
	And on the decoded level of the body, yes, it is.
	But what generates, what triggers that hormonal change is a frequency change.
	It's a change in the field.
	It's a change in the information field as part of the program we call human life.
	And therefore, what these entities want is the child's energy before that change takes place.
	To them, it's like nectar.
	And so, paedophilia is, again, these demonic entities in this lower astral realm stealing, feeding, Of the energy of children and the pedophile rings are conduits to allow that hijacking of child's energy to take place.
	And so because the same people who are worshipping these demonic gods Through Satanism, are the same people that are into pedophilia to, again, serve the gods in that way.
	That's why you have, invariably, these people that take part in satanic ritual also taking part in pedophilia.
	And so if you look at Zelensky, He's just a little gopher puppet.
	That's all he is.
	He's got no power.
	He's not running Ukraine.
	People running Ukraine are running him.
	Right.
	And this war has been generated because of all the offshoot advantages it gives to this cult that wants to dismantle society as we know it.
	And therefore...
	You're moving step by step from the world that we have known, and I knew even more.
	I was born in 1952.
	I could see how this world's bloody changed since I was a kid.
	Unbelievable.
	They're moving it step by step towards their world.
	So their world, their world that happens within the cult, becomes the norm in the world in general.
	This is a part of the so-called Great Reset that is not talked about nearly enough, this whole transformation of the cult reality to become human reality.
	Does that mean the fourth industrial revolution and a lot of the technology that's come through these advances, that it's been produced through a relationship, a communing, like these devils?
	We talked about artificial intelligence.
	We talked about the intelligence agencies.
	It's the technology that's really acted now as a conduit.
	You don't even need maybe an individual.
	That's a really, really good point.
	That really is.
	And I write about this at length in The Dream.
	You know, when I saw this matrix, this fake reality, and I'll just put that into context, what I'm saying is happening.
	Beyond this matrix, beyond this simulation, this virtual reality that we are experiencing, to what?
	To hijack our perception.
	So it hijacks our behavior.
	Is infinity.
	It's that infinite consciousness that some people call God, others call other names.
	It's the true self, the true I, the true creative force.
	And imagine that you've created a, like a Wi-Fi field, the simplest way of putting it.
	And you've laid that on part of this infinite reality.
	And then you have created what I call a biological computer to interact with that reality.
	So anyone that enters a human body is interacting with the fake reality through the five senses.
	That's why they want us to stay in the five senses and not go beyond them.
	And therefore...
	We are in this computer-generated dream world used to turn humans into one of these.
	That's what it's all about.
	So I started to look at this, and I thought, well, this whole matrix, which includes the astral, by the way, that's another level of the matrix, that's another thing that people...
	It's not just the human realm.
	Some people call it the spirit world, the astral.
	It's part of the matrix.
	It keeps you in the loop.
	So I thought, well, this whole deal is not going to be run by people pressing buttons.
	There has to be a system that's running this matrix, and it's artificial intelligence.
	But it's not artificial intelligence that we know about.
	Even the level of advancement it's reached in the human world now, and there's a reason why it's coming in, which I'll get to.
	It's light years beyond that.
	And it's running this whole deal.
	And what they're doing is bringing that astral AI into our reality step by step by step by step.
	And to our experience, it seems as if technology is advancing very quickly.
	And if you note that there's never a point, especially today, Where people are sitting around a table, strumming their fingers, saying, well, we can't go to the next level of control until some geek in a garage in Silicon Valley invents the technology to do it.
	That never happens.
	It's coming in so fast and quicker and quicker and quicker.
	Why?
	Because it already exists.
	It's just coming into our reality.
	And the idea...
	It's to connect humans, the human body-brain, to artificial intelligence.
	This is what they're talking about.
	People like Ray Kurzweil, and you've got Musk with his Neuralink and all that stuff.
	Although that's just a front, really.
	The real stuff is in the underground.
	The secret projects is coming in through the astral, or from the astral.
	And so the idea is you connect artificial intelligence to the human brain, and instead of having to manipulate perception to become behavior, you tell people what their perceptions are.
	It's coming direct from AI. That's why.
	And then the question is, people just...
	They must never stop asking questions, because if you ask one question and you find an answer to it, there's always another question.
	So the next question is, what's AI then?
	What is it?
	And there's algorithmic AI, okay.
	There's what they call learning AI, where they feed that AI all the information and data from the internet and social media, and it learns more and more about humans.
	But what's the ultimate AI that's behind all this?
	It's these demonic entities.
	And AI connected to the human brain is connecting this demonic realm to the human brain.
	That's what it's really about.
	And what they've done, Kurzweil's a great example at Google, is they've gone from hiding it To sales pitching it.
	Because you can't hide it anymore.
	You know, I said a long time ago, there's going to come a point Where it's got to become obvious because you can go under the radar for a while, but if you're going to transform human society, you have to transform it.
	And as you do it, people are going to see the world's changing.
	What's going on?
	So you can't hide it.
	So what are you going to do?
	You're going to sales pitch it.
	So you sales pitch it on the line of, well, if we don't have this dystopia, we're all going to die from bloody climate change, blah, blah, blah.
	You do it with COVID or whatever other thing you could make up.
	And you do it by what Kurzweil and others are saying.
	Oh, yeah, you connect to the brain to artificial intelligence.
	We'll become superhuman.
	No, we won't become subhuman, and you bloody know it.
	And this metaverse and all these cyberspace technologies that are coming in, Their role is to pull people more and more and more perceptually into the realms of cyberspace and AI. And further and further away from an understanding of the true self,
	which is we are a point of attention within a vast infinity of consciousness.
	They don't want us to know that.
	They certainly don't want us to connect to those levels of awareness consciousness, quote, God, beyond the simulation.
	Because once you do...
	You can see it.
	You know, what do we call it?
	What is awakening?
	All people are awakening.
	What does that mean?
	Well, what it means ultimately is that you are tapping in to levels of awareness, levels of consciousness that are beyond the fake reality.
	And thus, you see it's a fake reality.
	You are in the world in terms of your...
	Your focus of attention because the body is decoding the world constantly.
	It's like having a headset on all your life.
	But you're not of the world in terms of your perceptions because you're tapping into something greater than just this nonsense prison cell reality that's been created to ensnare us.
	But if you...
	Come into the world, and you are in the world, and also of the world, in terms of your perception, this is real.
	Gotcha.
	And that's what a sleep means, as opposed to awakening.
	Mr.
	Ike, thank you so much.
	We are out of time, but we are so blessed to have had you today.
	Can you tell our audience where they can buy your book?
	And we'll be sure to put the link in the description.
	Make sure you check it out.
	Please support Mr.
	Ike and his work.
	We really appreciate him taking the time.
	Any last words for our audience and tell us where we can find your book.
	Well, you get the book at DavidEyke.com, and it's shipped from within the United States.
	So it's not going to come from England or anything.
	It comes from within the United States, the people there, and Canada, of course.
	What else have I got to say?
	I call it the dream, the book, because this is a dream.
	But it's not just a dream.
	It's an induced dream.
	We're being fed information.
	Think of Wi-Fi being fed to a computer to give us a fake sense of reality, and that induces the dream that this is all real.
	But when you expand your awareness beyond that band of frequency, which is very small by comparison, Then you tap into those levels of awareness that are beyond the manipulation, that are beyond the induced dream.
	And then you see this world in a completely different light.
	And you know, when I was a journalist, a mainstream journalist, I would wake up in the morning and I'd put the radio on.
	And Then I might fall asleep quite often.
	I did for a short time.
	It seemed a long time.
	And I would have a dream.
	Day after day, I'd have a vivid dream.
	And I'd wake up from it and the vivid dream related to the information being discussed in the radio show.
	In other words, those dreams were induced By what the radio show was talking about.
	And this is an induced dream.
	And I would just say to this, people look at this and go, oh, that's all crazy, that's far out.
	Well, just look at this example.
	You look, you can see them on the Internet.
	You look at how people's perceptions of reality are taken over To the point where they are screaming and jumping and leaping around because they have a headset on feeding them a virtual reality game.
	Now, they can take the headset off and go, pew, it was just a game.
	If the body is the headset decoding this reality, then short of leaving this world, you can't take it off.
	So, compare the hijacking of perception by a single bloody headset with having the headset on in the womb, coming out, parents, headset, siblings, headset, teachers, headset, professors, headset, guy reading the news, headset, media in general, headset, governments, headset, everyone's got a headset, scientists, headset, academia, headsets.
	You're going to go through your life believing that what that headset is feeding you in terms of reality is exactly what you're experiencing.
	But it's not.
	And that is the biggest secret.
	And that's the one that will set us free when we realize that We've been part of a hoax all along.
	The whole reality we're experiencing is a hoax designed to hijack our perception to turn us into generators of low vibrational, emotional and mental energy to feed the demonic realm.
	And just finally, you know, when I've traveled the world, I've been hit not by the differences, but by how much is the same.
	And when you look at Christianity, it talks about demons, talks about the devil, talks about Satan.
	Then you look at Islam.
	That's different to Christianity, right?
	Well, in some ways it is, yes.
	But they talk about the jinn.
	And they talk about Shaitan.
	And they talk about Iblis.
	And the Gnostics, they talk about Archons and the Demiurge or Yoldebaoth, which is the Christian devil.
	You talk to people in native cultures around the world.
	I've talked to many people from different cultures.
	They have similar stories.
	And the common theme is this.
	There is an unseen force that is manipulating our society.
	And that force has a very, very sinister agenda for humans.
	And if we could just come together on what we agree on, and then put aside and debate what we don't agree on, yes, but let's come together on what we agree on.
	We're being manipulated by an unseen force.
	An unseen force that we don't need But it needs us.
	And we are the ones in control.
	And the way we've got into this mess is by saying yes.
	People think yes is a positive word.
	Well, it can be, but it can be the opposite.
	Yes, sir.
	No, sir.
	I'll do what you say, sir.
	I don't want to do it, but I'm frightened that the consequences are not doing it, so I'll do it, sir.
	That response has created this tyranny.
	And it's created every other tyranny in history.
	Because fascism and communism is not brought in by fascists and communists.
	Never enough of them.
	It's brought in by the population acquiescing to the fascists and the communists.
	And we I have to start using the word no.
	No, we're not doing it.
	No, we're not going to play a part in our own enslavement and our kids' enslavement and grandkids' enslavement.
	We're not going to do it.
	No!
	Because 8 billion people cannot be controlled by a relative handful unless the 8 billion are giving their power to the handful.
	This is the last thought I'd give.
	These people have no power.
	Authority has no power.
	The power they recycle towards us that gives us the impression they have power is simply the power we've given to them in the form of acquiescence.
	And so we have morons all over the world Morons like Newsom in California.
	Morons like Trudeau in Canada.
	Macron in France.
	Like Sunak in Britain.
	Like Mark Drakeford who runs Wales.
	I mean, if a guy had a brain cell on active duty, his body would genetically implode from the shock.
	And yet, you've got in Wales now...
	People are up in arms, quote, because Drakeford, one bloke moron, has said that in Wales, all urban areas will only have a 20 mile an hour speed limit.
	And if you go over that, you're going to get fired.
	And it's ridiculous when you see it at work.
	I spoke in Cardiff, the capital of Wales, just a few days ago.
	It's insane.
	People are going crazy.
	And yet one man's done it.
	How can he do it to a whole population?
	Because the population acquiesce to the moron.
	It's got to stop.
	And when it does, the House of Cards will come down, but not until...
	Well, thank you so much for these words of awakening.
	And honestly, I think it is an encouragement knowing that men like you, you set the path for this next generation, me and Lauren and the generation after us to keep this fight going.
	It has been a blessing sharing this time with you.
	Thank you so much for your submission, I suppose, your acceptance, I guess, of our invitation.
	And we'd like to extend that again, too, if you'd like to come back.
	Absolutely.
	That was an awesome interview.
	Yeah.
	And we're going to be inviting David back on, I think.
	Maybe we'll go see him.
	Maybe we'll come see us.
	Maybe we'll get to sit next to him.
	If he's not banned from America.
	Well, they are trying to do that.
	He told us about the case in the Netherlands today.
	He's going to get, either today or this week, he's going to get an announcement on whether he can travel to the EU to speak.
	This is real.
	Every country in the world, Lauren, is looking at curtailing not just your ability to talk online, but your freedom to travel, your freedom to think outside of this matrix.
	And it is a matrix.
	Now, we talked at the beginning of the program about that.
	David was early to this.
	Even before, I think, The Matrix had even been produced.
	David Icke was calling out The Matrix and its attempt to control and manipulate us spiritually and mentally and physically.
	It's true.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, I didn't get into the aliens with him, but I want to show you guys a video real quick.
	The one out of Mexico that came out with these aliens.
	And I wanted to...
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	They are beings, non-humans who are not part of our terrestrial evolution, and that after disappearing, we do not.
	There is a subsequent evolution according to the university.
	The National Autonomous Government of Mexico, who carried out the analysis of Carbon-14, these beings are around a thousand years old, of antiquity, that is.
	They are not beings that were recovered in birds that are crashes.
	But they are beings that were buried in the mines of diatoms, diatomaceous earth.
	Diatom is a bug.
	Civilized with 17 million ancient phytoplankton, which was abundant at that time.
	And when it disappeared, it became possible.
	So, Lauren, that alien video you were mentioning, There was an update over the weekend I saw.
	They are saying they've scanned whatever these things are.
	You know, they look kind of like a sloth, some kind of like a miniature, like dwarf sloth.
	But they are claiming, the scientists who presented this to the Mexican Congress, that one of them is alive.
	What?
	That the organs are alive.
	I think that they may have carved it out of stone.
	They carved what they wanted to get out of it because it looks like stone.
	You think it's a lawn gnome?
	Huh?
	You think it's like a lawn gnome?
	Yeah, basically.
	That's what I think.
	I think they carved, they said it's like fossilized or whatever.
	It's still alive or is it like biological?
	Like, so they're saying like it's like, you know, It's natural, biological, so it has living organisms in it, or is it...
	I think it is, in respect to...
	It's not so much that it's about to pop up out of the coffin they're rolling it out in, but more so that there's red blood cells, or there's things in it they can...
	Interesting.
	They can reanimate or study in some form.
	They said this about like triceratops.
	It could be some freak experiment these mad scientists are doing and they came up with that because you know they're trying to mix human-pig hybrids.
	They're growing organs.
	They're doing a bunch of freakish stuff.
	It could be that.
	Well, Israel this past month were the first nation in the world to develop a non-human sourced embryo so that there's no sperm or egg.
	It's all like produced inside of a lab.
	And you know, it's funny about that.
	It's not funny.
	It's disgusting in the sense of like what they have planned for it.
	I was listening to a report on Friday on this.
	Specifically, why they're so excited about this new technology is so they can do tests on it.
	They can't legally do on babies.
	I heard one of the scientists say, I was like, what did he just say?
	He literally just said, he's like, yeah, we can't test to see what will kill a baby.
	Well, I guess you can if you're Planned Parenthood.
	But in regard to science, they have to be able to produce these, quote, embryos, these children, without involving parents.
	You know they're still going to involve parents in some form.
	Well, they have a soul.
	That's my concern.
	It's like, the Bible says, form to your mother's womb.
	Okay, these are in a dish.
	It's just skin cells and...
	You know, they're growing some kind of human, but is it going to be alive?
	Is it going to have any souls?
	Are there going to be anyone inside?
	Or is it going to be something that, just a body that these interdimensional beings can take over?
	Like it can become possessed by a demon, you know?
	Oh my goodness.
	Yeah, does it have to make, we could have demons walking around with us.
	So they're essentially creating vessels for the demons to walk in.
	That's what I think it is.
	Because there's no way, I don't think they're going to have a soul because they aren't born of humans.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like the way God created us to be.
	So what is going to be inhabiting those things?
	And on top of that, what does the new world look like with these skinwalkers, essentially going around?
	There's a lot of interesting talk in regard to these aliens, because the aliens have served as a distraction.
	Yes.
	It was Ronald Reagan that said that aliens, if they were visited, would unify the world, potentially.
	And I've heard speeches since.
	So it's, again, this constant push, whatever angle they can get it.
	9-11 unified the country.
	Aliens could unify the world.
	And they would love this.
	They'd love to be able to convince the public to relinquish more freedoms, give over power to a supreme being.
	But again, we're smarter than this.
	We're smarter than this.
	And as David Poynly said at the end of the interview, if we ever do realize, the populace at large, how much power we do maintain and have, we really can enact change in this world.
	But it's not this world, necessarily, we're looking to change.
	What it is, it's us building toward the kingdom, which will be changed, and it will be perfect and wonderful, and that's New Jerusalem.
	That doesn't mean we're giving up here on Earth, though.
	A lot of people, they get in the middle there somewhere.
	It's like, we have to fight for the souls that are lost here on Earth, and our family that are still maybe even questioning some of these concepts.
	That's why we fight.
	We fight for the unborn.
	We fight for those who can't defend themselves.
	And all these evil people that were discussed in this interview, they would love to continue to sigh up with the world at large.
	They won't do it through aliens.
	They won't do it through another pandemic.
	They might try a world war.
	I think that's probably my biggest fear.
	It's just not popular.
	That's the thing, that they are provoking a world war and nobody wants it.
	That's the problem.
	And you should be aware, like, they are not above, like, doing another false flag, doing some kind of false flag to pin on Russia, to unify us going to full-blown-out World War III. But, you know, I think that there's a false flag coming.
	I think that they are planning something, and I think you're right.
	They are Up to something, because not enough support is being generated for this war.
	And I know that nothing is really as it seems.
	There's always stuff going on behind the scenes.
	They're plotting, planning, and if it doesn't go their way, they have a plan B every single time.
	And I really think that our own government isn't above staging a false flag attack, let alone the global leaders who hate us and want us dead.
	Every time they do, more people wake up.
	That's the silver lining of this, is I pray that their plots and their schemes would not be successful.
	Even this weekend, I was watching a fight.
	One of the fighters, at the end of the fight, he said that the devil is taking over the world, and this place has become evil, and directed energy weapons have been used against the people of Maui.
	Every time they do something, whether it be a false flag or they lie, all they do is wake up more people.
	The question is, what do we do once we're awake?
	And we addressed part of it in this interview with David Icke that you just watched.
	But I'd add to it and simply say that we have to be serving the kingdom.
	We have to be serving the kingdom.
	We have to be fulfilling the Great Commission.
	Or our life, you know, after we're awake, you know, we're just then in a form of anxiety.
	We're kind of, we're all looking for the next big thing to get behind and the big thing to fight for.
	I'm going to fight for the kingdom.
	I think Lauren's with me on that.
	And of course, we have quite a coalition in that respect.
	He's down, too.
	Derek!
	Derek, are you down?
	How to fight the devil?
	Oh, Derek is...
	He's trying to take a nap.
	He's going to pitbull you.
	You think he's going to pitbull?
	Look, I think that's another one of the sign-ups.
	Pitbulls are wonderful animals, okay?
	All right.
	Enough damages have been done.
	Let's go ahead and close out with this.
	Thank you so much for joining us for today's edition of Crosstalk News.
	On behalf of our guest, David Icke, thank you so much for taking the time to speak with us.
	And of course, on behalf of my co-host, Lauren Witzke, Senator of Exile, and of course, Derek, the real star of the show.
	I'm Edward Zoll, the host of Crosstalk News.
	God bless you, and see you next week.

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