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Decoding the New World Order agenda hidden in the headlines, it's Sunday Night Live with your host, Chase Geiser.
chase geiser
Ladies and gentlemen, I am Chase Geiser, your host this evening for the next one hour and 42 minutes.
For the final hour of the program tonight, I will be joined in studio by Dr. Charles Cornish Dale.
You may know him as the Raw Egg Nationalist.
He's been one of our writers here at InfoWars for some time, made himself famous before that time because of his amazing reporting and his publication of Man's World magazine.
But we're going to be asking about what's going on in the UK, what's going on with the Make America Healthy Again movement, and everything that's unfolding.
Before we get to all that and Talk to raw egg nationalist at the beginning of the next hour.
And with the remaining time I have in this segment, I want to talk to you about the breaking news that the GOP headquarters in Albuquerque, New Mexico was torched in deliberate arson attack.
Ice equals KKK spray painted on the wall.
Now this is just one attack of a series of attacks that have taken place ever since the inauguration of Donald Trump and the establishment of Doge.
And the reason I want to mention it is not because it's some fluke example of leftists being lunatics, but because it's part of a greater trend.
A trend of asymmetrical warfare.
Of irrational warfare.
Where we've heard from the Democrats that they love democracy so much, everything is always a threat to democracy.
Whether it's in Ukraine, or Israel, or Taiwan, or any of these other conflicts that we've been involved in, it's always a threat to democracy.
Domestic terrorism is a threat to democracy.
White supremacy is a threat to democracy.
And then when they lose a major election in a democratic election, all of a sudden, they hate democracy so much.
I mean, if democracy was such a value of these leftists, one would think that they would yield back and allow the opposition to lead for the next four years, do everything they could to win in the midterm elections.
And use the established infrastructure, our electoral process, to get their way, get their representation in the halls of our governments and other institutions.
But no, we've seen that when they lose honestly, and they did try to cheat, so they really lost bigly honestly, then they resort to asymmetrical warfare, guerrilla tactics of intimidation, In total destruction.
No belief whatsoever in private property rights.
I mean, I saw a post earlier this week, for example, of someone who had marked a note on their Tesla saying, hey guys, I bought this Tesla in 2020.
I am absolutely an advocate for the LGBTQIA plus community.
They put a note on there.
So that their property would not be destroyed, so the windows wouldn't be broken, so it wouldn't be torched, so it wouldn't be spray-painted, so it wouldn't be keyed with a swastika or some other disparaging message.
And I'm thinking to myself, how much cognitive dissonance do you have to have not to realize that you shouldn't have to explain to your own political party why they shouldn't vandalize or destroy your own private property.
I mean, if you have to tell your own party Your own colleagues, your own so-called allies, to use a word they love to use so much, not to destroy your property because you espouse their values.
Maybe you're on the wrong political party.
Maybe you're the baddies.
Maybe you're on the wrong side.
In this tactic of leaving a note out for people to see what you believe politically is something that goes all the way back to the Soviet Union, it goes back to the Chinese Communist Revolution, where shopkeepers had to put a sign out in front of their shop that said workers of the world unite.
And even after it was obvious that workers of the world weren't going to unite and that the Soviet Union was about to collapse and that everything under communism was absolutely terrible, they still had to put out this sign even though everyone knew that it wasn't true, everyone knew that it was BS because if you didn't then there was intimidation from the state.
And so what we see here is a direct attack on Elon Musk, not just because he supports Donald Trump, not just because he supports free speech, but because he is directly responsible for getting to the bottom of all the corruption and waste happening in our government.
And it is undermining the payroll of the political class in the United States and all globalist policies.
Because those globalist policies are used to fund operations and NGOs domestically and overseas.
That can then be skimmed off of by our own political class.
I'm going to show you clip number six here, among a litany of examples of some of the things that Doge has found.
Let's watch clip number six.
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We learned 40% of the phone calls that they get are from fraudsters.
bret baier
40%?
unidentified
That's right.
elon musk
Almost half.
Yes, and they steal people's social security, is what happens.
They call in, they claim to be a retiree, and they convince the social security person on the phone to change where the money's flowing.
It actually goes to some fraudster.
This is happening all day, every day.
And then somebody doesn't receive their social security, it's because Of all the fraud loopholes in the social security system.
bret baier
How do you reassure people that what you all are doing is not going to affect their benefits?
elon musk
No, in fact, what we're doing will help their benefits.
Legitimate people, as a result of the work of DOJ, will receive more social security, not less.
I want to emphasize that.
As a result of the work of DOJ, legitimate recipients of social security will receive more money, not less money.
Alright, I want to emphasize that point and let the record show that I said this and it will be proven out to be true.
Let's check back on this thing in the future.
chase geiser
When you realize, you ask Rocks or Chat GPT or just do your own research the old school way by searching on Google, you realize that all of the experts have been estimating that Social Security was going to totally run out of money by 2035.
And this isn't some Al Gore-esque prediction.
The world's gonna end by the summer of 2015 or all the ice caps are gonna melt and then it doesn't happen.
This isn't some climate hoax.
This is a real financial crisis.
I mean, the United States of America is on the verge of bankruptcy, the likeness of which no nation has ever seen in the history of nations.
And so when you have this precious safety net that is social security that we all pay into, unless you're a conscientious objector, if you're Amish or some other religion, sometimes you can get away with not paying into it.
But we all pay into it our whole entire lives to ensure that when we're old and incapable of taking care of ourselves, we have some semblance of an income to feed ourselves.
When you realize that it's gonna go totally bankrupt by 2035 at the latest, and it's always being hijacked and skimmed from and stolen from.
When you realize that 40% of people who call in to make Social Security claims are fraudsters and nothing has been done about it for as long as Social Security has existed.
I mean, it's existed since FDR, right?
I know there wasn't the internet and the sophisticated international scamming going on back in the 1930s, but I guarantee you as inefficient as government has always been and always will be, there have been people for 100 years scamming Social Security and it's only gotten worse and no one's done anything about it.
There's example after example after example this we're gonna get into more on the other side about the 1400 IRS agents who are hired and tasked with just giving other IRS agents cell phones and laptops.
We're gonna get into what Ilhan Omar said about USAID.
What Rogan said about leftist hypocrisy.
What Musk has said about that astronaut Mark Kelly.
Paid protesters.
Shadow government being advocated by Tim Walz.
Newsome being on Mar, Musk being upset about what's happening with Tesla.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Sunday Night Live.
I am Chase Geiser.
In approximately 24 minutes and 16 seconds, I will be joined in studio by Raw Egg Nationalist, someone I've been a fan of for an extended period of time.
I've been on his podcast and his work is just absolutely astounding.
You can see his work at InfoWars.com.
He is a writer for InfoWars and does some of the most outstanding work that I've ever seen.
But before we get into that, we have to talk a little bit about this.
Leftist domestic terrorism that's taking place.
Now, I've seen people come out and say that, look, the king of Tesla cars is not domestic terrorism.
It is simply vandalism.
And I don't think those are mutually exclusive.
I think vandalism can be used in a terrorist context.
I mean, we know that terrorism, defined properly, is just any sort of attack Conducted for the purpose of invoking terror in political opposition for a desired political outcome.
So if your desired political outcome is total government corruption and overspending and USAID and constant wars in Ukraine and Israel and Taiwan and all over the world.
And you want to undermine those forces that are inhibiting that from happening, namely Elon Musk.
So you want to drive down the value of the stocks of Tesla, for example.
Well then the way that you do that is you make everybody in the market too scared to buy a Tesla or a Cybertruck because they don't want to deal with the flack that they get from their colleagues, co-workers, family members, or friends.
They don't want to deal with wondering while they're parked in the parking lot and eating dinner with their family at a restaurant, wondering whether someone is keying their car or slashing their tires or bashing their windows.
So this vandalism is being used in the context of domestic terrorism, and it's not just the swatting stuff that dozens of people have gone through.
It's not just the torching of these Tesla dealerships or the harassment of people who happen to own Tesla products.
It extends so much deeper than that through the weaponization of the federal government in the board of directors of all these social media companies who have pressured them to silence political dissidents.
To censor things like claims about vaccines, to censor things like claims about election integrity in 2020.
I mean we have just come out of four to eight years, really four years, of massive censorship the likeness of which the United States of America has never seen.
I mean before with Project Mockingbird, we have the CIA infiltrating major news outlets so that they can publish and post propaganda to control the psychology of people.
But it wasn't until the last eight years or so that we saw them weaponize silencing dissidents, silencing the opposition.
So not only were they lying to us on mainstream media, but they were doing everything that they possibly could to silence anyone who was actually exposing or telling the truth.
And you'll note, That they never really had a sophisticated debate or argument or counter narrative against any of the claims that have been made over the last four years.
2020 election fraud, never seen a famous debate about that.
I mean, I'm sure Destiny went up there, just blitzed out on amphetamine and made some sort of claims about election integrity.
I guess you could call that a debate.
But nobody actually would respond to the Bret Weinsteins or the others who were publishing the truth about what was happening with these vaccines, with spike proteins, with mRNA technology.
They didn't do that because they knew they didn't have the truth on their side.
And when they don't have the truth on their side, they censor.
You see, if you're correct, if you're telling the truth, if you're right, you don't have to censor.
And these pundits have the audacity to come out and say, That free speech was responsible for the rise of the Nazis.
That's something that happened just a few weeks ago.
I think you guys probably remember the viral clip.
Claiming that free speech was responsible for the rise of the Nazi party because they hadn't been silenced.
That was the claim there.
Then you look at what the Nazis did between 33 and 45, and it was rampant censorship.
It was rampant intimidation.
I mean, what is different between Kristallnacht And the firebombing and torching of Tesla dealerships all over the country.
The Germans said, the Nazis said, all right, we're going to vandalize every single Jewish business on one night to intimidate them, to scare them out of the country.
Now the leftists are saying, we're going to vandalize every single Tesla that we see so we can intimidate and terrorize The political opposition.
See, the difference is that the Nazis were doing it against the Jews because of their immutable characteristics, but the leftists today are just doing it against people who harbor Western values.
They don't care if you're white, Asian, Hispanic, person of color, whatever.
They don't care about any of your other immutable characteristics.
If you espouse the wrong values, then you are to them what a Jew was to a Nazi in 1933.
While they call us fascists and send 63 billion dollars to Ukraine on Hitler's birthday.
And we know there are literally nationalist fascists over there, and I'm not opposed to nationalism, but when it's in the form of Nazi fascism, of course I am.
I don't like socialist nationalism because it always results in the death of millions of people unnecessarily.
They say, oh, Chase, why are you talking about the death of millions of people in the context of what the Nazis did when we know that Stalin killed way more people, we know that Mao killed more people.
Yes, it's true.
I understand that.
I've said that countless times on air.
I know that between 1958 and 1962, estimates ranging from 50 to 100 million Chinese starved to death because of communism.
I know that Stalin killed virtually everyone, especially the Ukrainians, because they were suspected of harvesting their own crops instead of giving it to the state for redistribution.
But you have to keep in mind that fascism and communism have proven to be the top two deadliest Political philosophies in the history of political philosophies and right now what we're witnessing with globalism is the hybrid between the two.
Globalism is what happens when communists and fascists shake hands and agree to conspire together to undermine the national sovereignty of any country in the entire world.
Whether it's a communist country, whether it's a fascist country, or whether it's a capitalist free country.
That's why they hate China so much, because China, despite the fact that it's communist, does demand its own sovereignty.
It's why they hate Russia so much, because Russia, despite all of its corruption, does demand national sovereignty.
And it's why they hate America so much, because Americans demand national sovereignty.
We did it on November 5th, January 20th, and we're gonna do it for the next four years.
And globalism cannot exist with national sovereignty, so what is happening right before our eyes is total terrorism funded by Soros, funded by globalist entities, funded by a political class which is sold out to globalist interests in order to undermine those who are the American heroes fighting for our own sovereignty.
They want to create a total economic collapse so they can blame it on populism, then usher in a leftist Senate and House, two years, and a leftist president in 2028.
And then sacrifice, like some pagan ritual, America to the globalist false idol and catalyze one world government.
I'm going to show you clip number 19. This is just one example.
1,400 IRS agents hired simply for the purpose of giving other IRS agents laptops and cell phones.
Let's watch clip number 19. You've got overstaffing.
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A good example of overstaffing would be the IRS has got 1,400 people who are dedicated to provisioning laptops and cell phones.
So if you join the IRS, you get a laptop and a cell phone, you're provisioned.
So if each of those IRS officers or employees provisioned two employees per day, you could provision the entire IRS So you're gonna firebomb a Tesla dealership because this type of thing is being uncovered?
chase geiser
Look at the rhetoric from Ilhan Omar.
This is clip number 29. She's talking about how the damage to USAID is resulting in the harm to millions of people all over the world.
ilhan omar
Let's watch 29. The effort to dismantle USAID are deeply personal to me.
I know the work that they do to help refugees because they've helped me and my family when we were in a refugee camp.
Their work represents the best of America abroad and it is truly a beacon of hope for so many people around the world.
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Representative Omar spoke about the effects of the Trump administration's attempt to dismantle the agency, mentioning refugees losing access to food, shelter, and vaccines.
Omar went on to mention Minnesota-based organizations that get funding from USAID, and how losing that funding could harm those benefiting from their work.
At Friday's press conference, Representative Omar was joined by local organizations which are directly impacted by the attempt to dismantle USAID.
chase geiser
It's always in the name of saving people.
That things like vaccines are pushed upon billions of people in the world resulting in the death of tens of millions.
It's always in the name of democracy that wars are waged resulting in the death of millions.
It's always in the name of starvation or lack of nutrition that agriculture is acquired across the entire globe.
That climate hoax stuff is perpetuated across the entire globe resulting in the death of millions.
I mean you realize that if we eradicate fossil fuels from the planet This is something that's been very well documented.
It's the third world countries that suffer first and they die by things like exposure, freezing to death, heat exhaustion, they can't cook their foods.
I mean, the first line that dies in the event that we switch to green energy is the third world nations.
Those who are a burden to the globalist state, those who provide no value to the globalist state will be fine here in the United States of America, will be fine in the United Kingdom, at least for some time.
Not to mention the fact that if we eradicated the use of fossil fuels, that would eradicate all demand for oil.
And if all demand for oil is eradicated, then that totally pulls the rug out from the U.S. dollar.
And if the U.S. dollar collapses, the only thing that's going to be left are the International Monetary Fund, the International Bank of Settlements, suggesting, advocating, forcing central bank digital currencies on the world so they can control the economy of the world basically indefinitely.
But Rogan does a great job of pointing out their hypocrisy.
Let's look at clip number 31 here.
This is Rogan talking about the hypocrisy of the left, and I think he does a beautiful job.
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How crazy is it that the left are the ones who are painting swastikas on cars?
Just understand how crazy positions can flip and flop.
The left is upset that we're not continuing an endless war in Ukraine.
The left is upset that this guy is uncovering fraud and waste.
And so, in order to stop that, you must light cars on fire and put swastikas on them.
Because he's a Nazi.
Because he said, my heart goes out to you.
Even though there's countless videos of AOC doing that gesture, Tim Walz doing that gesture enthusiastically.
Many, many people.
chase geiser
Clip 36 here.
Here's Musk talking about Mark Kelly.
As you know, Mark Kelly, Political leader here in the United States, former astronaut, has been giving Elon Musk an abundance of just crap, garbage, for an extended period of time, despite the fact that what we've recently witnessed is NASA and the United States of America just abandoned our astronauts in orbit for like nine months, and SpaceX had to go and save them.
bret baier
You got Mark Kelly just totally disregarding this, clip 36. You know, a lot is coming your way, but sometimes you say stuff or post stuff that gets attention.
You give it out, in other words.
Democratic Arizona Senator Mark Kelly posted on X about his trip to Ukraine to push for continuing to send U.S. weapons and support there, and you posted that he was a traitor.
Why do that?
elon musk
Well, I think somebody should care about the interests of the United States above the interests of another country.
Sure. And if they don't, they're a traitor.
bret baier
Yeah, but he's a decorated veteran, a former astronaut, a sitting U.S. Senator.
elon musk
That doesn't mean it's okay for him to put the interests of another country above America.
bret baier
Obviously, there are some Republicans who think supporting Ukraine is the right thing still, but there is a battle back and forth about how do you think it comes to an end?
elon musk
Well, I think there will be a negotiated peace.
And the thing that we should be concerned about is we should have empathy for the thousands of people that are dying every day in trenches for no movement in the lines.
So the borders remain the same for the past two years.
Thousands of people have died every week for nothing.
For what?
And I take great offense at those who Those who put the appearance of goodness over the reality of it.
Those who virtue-signal and say, oh, we can't give in to Russia, but have no solution to stopping thousands of kids dying every day.
They just want that to continue forever.
I have contempt for such people.
I don't want to make that clear.
Yeah. Because they're virtue-signaling, and their lack of a solution means that kids don't have a father.
It means that parents lost a son.
For what?
chase geiser
And the real zinger there, the real truth of everything that happened in that two minute clip, is putting a preference for those who practice virtue over those who virtue signal.
And what's a better example of virtue signaling versus practicing virtue than the fact that Mark Kelly's coming out as a former astronaut Criticizing Elon Musk.
Criticizing the Trump administration.
Criticizing SpaceX.
Does absolutely nothing in the way of saving the astronauts in orbit.
Stuck for nine months.
Elon Musk, rather than just talking crap back, actually sends a ship up there to retrieve those astronauts saving their lives.
This is clip number nine here of Rogan talking about that.
I think he nailed it on the head.
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If you didn't hear a peep about Elon rescuing those people.
That should have been on all of the news stories all day long.
We should have had a live stream of it.
It should have been a huge national event.
We're finally going to rescue the astronauts who are trapped in the space station for eight months and this super genius, this Elon Musk character, is the guy who figured out how to go get them.
His company went and rescued them because we can't do it anymore.
We couldn't rescue them.
We had to rely on his company and you only hear Out it!
Crazy! You hear a few stories, they're having a hard time coming back, but you think, why wouldn't, why weren't they live-streaming the whole thing?
That's a huge moment.
You're recovering these poor people.
This is a giant special interest story that would grab so many headlines, and it would have so much ratings, because everybody wants to see it.
Oh my god, they're going to get the astronauts.
You'd be sitting on your couch with your family.
They're going to get them?
chase geiser
And it's obvious that these attacks on Elon Musk and Tesla, They're all being conducted by paid protesters.
There's reason after reason to believe this.
We know Soros and his organizations have funded this for an extended period of time.
The Democrats fund this.
I mean, the Democrats paid for thousands of people to follow Kamala Harris around like it was a Grateful Dead concert from city to city.
So it looked like she could sell an auditorium out in every single city or a stadium.
They had the cell phone data.
They proved that three to 5,000 of the people at all of these stadiums that she was speaking at were not local.
They were bussed around.
And we see with these Tesla protests that everyone shows up on time, clocks in at 10 a.m., and they leave at noon exactly.
Now, I don't know about you folks, but I do know what it feels like to be passionate about a particular political issue.
And you don't stop when the clock runs out.
You stay as late as it takes, you work as long as it takes, you fight until you literally can't stand up anymore.
That's what we do here at InfoWars.
It's what our audience has done for 30 years, supporting us By buying our products?
So it's very bizarre to me to see these protests where people show up at 10 a.m. and then leave exactly at noon while for two hours they act as if they really believe in what's being projected, what's being protested.
This is clip 44.
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Elon Musk posted about the paid protesters.
chase geiser
And we've seen example after example of this.
Every time the clock runs out, they all just pack up and leave immediately.
I mean, you would think some people would stick around.
You would think some people would loiter around after these protests, but the fact of the matter is...
They're paid protesters.
This is an orchestrated globalist attack on Elon Musk and Tesla so that they can subjugate America in a new world government in the course of the next four to eight years.
I want to show you clip number 54 of Musk responding to some of what's happened regarding Tesla and these attacks right here, 54. You don't have to be here.
bret baier
You don't have to be here.
You know, there's now been these many cases of violence and vandalism at Tesla dealerships.
How does that affect your employees, your customers?
What does it mean to you?
Like, how have you taken that in?
elon musk
Well, I think a great wrong is being done to the people of Tesla and to our customers.
I mean, Tesla is a peaceful company that has made great cars, great products.
That's all it's done.
It hasn't harmed anyone.
And yet people are committing violence.
They're firebombing Tesla dealerships.
They're shooting guns into stores.
They're threatening people.
They're issuing death threats against me and other Tesla personnel.
What are they doing this for?
Why? What's happening, it seems to me, is they're being fed propaganda by the far left.
And they believe it.
It's really unfortunate.
The real problem is not the people.
It's not like the crazy guy that firebombs a Tesla dealership.
It's the people pushing the propaganda that caused that guy to do it.
Those are the real villains here.
And we're going to go after them.
And the President's made it clear.
We're going to go after them.
The ones providing the money.
The ones pushing the lies and propaganda.
We're going after them.
bret baier
And it's been this evolution.
I mean, the last administration was going to mandate electric vehicles, and now you see on the far left some efforts to go after electric vehicles.
It's quite something.
elon musk
It is ironic.
I mean...
chase geiser
He's absolutely right.
There is funding of this.
It's very intentional.
There is rhetoric, and I'm not somebody who likes to attack rhetoric, because I believe in freedom of speech.
I believe in inflammatory rhetoric.
But when you intentionally tell a lie, in order to weaponize terrorism across the country, at the expense of the interests, wants and needs of your own people, so while committing treason, I think maybe a little pushback is justified here.
Here's Tim Walz, our Maoist hero, otherwise known as Elmer Fudd, in clip 46, talking about how we need to institute a shadow government.
Let's watch.
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We see one of the first things they do is try and restrict the vote.
This is one of the things, though, that this is going to take power to the streets.
I don't know what the answer is on this, but I've been saying this.
I think we need a shadow government so when all these things come up every single day, we've got an alternate press conference telling the truth about what things are happening.
chase geiser
He's talking about a shadow government after for years saying that January 6th was an insurrection.
After for years saying that Donald Trump was trying to have a tyrannical takeover of the United States of America while he was being impeached for things he obviously didn't do.
Claims that were made and backed up and supported by our own intelligence communities.
Now he's advocating for that which he was rhetorically so against for so long.
It's because the guy's a Maoist.
I mean, he hands out little red books.
Like condoms at a gay pride parade.
This is somebody who we know.
We've spoken to people who were over in China with him in the 90s.
Watching him collect little red books.
Watching him stand up for the People's Liberation Army as it beat homeless beggars because the homeless beggars had to embarrass China in front of Americans.
Encouraging the others that he was with, the other Americans that he was with, not to say anything critical of what happened at Tiananmen Square while they were at Tiananmen Square.
I mean, this guy is 100% a Maoist.
He believes in total government takeover, total control of all industry, total massive starvation like the Great Leap Forward from 58 to 62, which we discussed earlier.
advocating for a shadow government to an audience front of all Americans while the left is still.
Gavin Newsom's got a memoir coming out.
He started a podcast.
He's been going viral.
He's been talking to the opposition about how we need to pop the bubble or the echo chambers, and we need to reach across the aisle.
So they've got this good cop, bad cop thing going on where the bad cops like terrorism, terrorism, terrorism.
And the good cop, Gavin Newsom, comes in and says, look, guys, everything's going to be so much easier if we just decide to get along.
This is clip number 48 of Newsom talking to Bill Maher.
gavin newsom
It's really been interesting the reaction to the podcast I mean we had some controversial figures on I'll acknowledge that and Steve Bannon Charlie Kirk and some others, but you're right I mean this idea that we can't even have a conversation with the other side you have to they won.
Thank you And by the way, or the notion we just have to continue to talk to ourselves or we're in the same damn echo chamber.
These guys are crushing us.
The Democratic brand is toxic right now.
We had a high watermark two weeks ago, and that was a CNN poll at 29% favorability.
It's dropped, and the NBC poll down to 27%.
It's one thing to make noise, but you also have to make sense.
And I think with this podcast and having the opportunity to dialogue with people I disagree with, it's an opportunity to try to find common ground and not take cheap shots.
I'm not looking to put a spoke in the wheel of their, or at least a crowbar in the spokes of their wheel to trip them up, to your point.
And I think it's important, Democrats, we tend to be a little more judgmental than we should be.
This notion of cancel culture, you've been living it, you've been on the receiving end of it for years and years and years.
That's real.
And Democrats need to own up to that.
They've got to mature about this.
chase geiser
Don't buy the good cop, bad cop routine, folks.
I lived in California under Gavin Newsom.
It is a leftist, communist hellhole.
He's done nothing but undermine the integrity of this country.
Stay with us.
Dr. Charles Cornish Dale is going to be on with us on the other side.
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unidentified
Tonight, Sunday Night Live unveils the hidden truths behind today's headlines with your host, Chase Geyser.
chase geiser
I'm joined by Dr. Charles Cornish Dale, better known as Raw Egg Nationalist.
He's a British author, influencer, and editor who has gained prominence in far right and online fitness communities.
Holding a PhD in history from the University of Oxford.
Oh, Mark Carney.
Where he focused on religious history, he transitioned from academia to become a leading voice in the raw food and carnivore diet movements.
Under a pseudonym, he edits Man's World magazine, which is one of my personal favorite magazines ever.
I mean, this issue is like a masterpiece.
Has authored several books, including Raw Egg Nationalism and Theory and Practice, The Eggs Benedict Option, Blending Nutritional Advocacy with National Ideology.
His profile rose significantly after appearing in Tucker Carlson's 2022 documentary, The End of Men.
In 2024, his identity was revealed by the advocacy group Hope Not Hate.
Cementing his status as a controversial figure in both dietary and political spheres.
Follow him at babygravy9 or go to mansworldmag.online.
Highly recommend it.
Charlie, it's an honor and pleasure to have you here, man.
charles cornish-dale
Likewise, Chase.
chase geiser
How long have you been writing for InfoWars?
charles cornish-dale
A year now.
chase geiser
Wow. Congratulations.
charles cornish-dale
It's been a whole year.
Yeah, it's been great.
I love it.
I absolutely love it.
chase geiser
So how do you go from Oxford grad to nationalist fitness guru?
charles cornish-dale
Yeah, that's that's the question.
That's the question.
I've been pondering myself actually it's it's been a bit of a whirlwind really, you know, so I Was at university for almost what a better part of a decade, you know Cambridge before that Looked like I was on my way into an academic career did this PhD and You know, it was like 2015 2016 all the craziness was going on.
Yes. I'm at Oxford when there's the Brexit referendum And then, of course, Trump.
And people lost their minds.
People really lost their minds.
And that was kind of a wake-up call for me, actually, when I really started to examine my political views.
I mean, I grew up in a very rural part of England, you know, so I'm kind of naturally conservative, if you will, you know.
I mean, I've always had a reverence and respect for the past, but it was all kind of implicit.
But then, you know, I get to this university, to Oxford, You know, the oldest university in the English-speaking world, you know, somewhere where you think it's going to be really inspirational.
And I just found that everybody was losing their mind collectively, you know, because of Trump, because of this, you know, real estate mogul celebrity who had been elected President of the United States.
And so, as I did my PhD, which I enjoyed, nevertheless, I thought, you know, this isn't the environment for me.
I don't want to be an academic.
You know, I can't exist in this environment with these people, with these crazy people.
So I left the university and, uh, kind of...
Struggled a little while for, you know, to find an identity.
I was posting on Twitter, started to post about health and fitness.
I mean, I have a deep background in health and fitness, you know, so I've always been a sportsman.
I was a sportsman at school, a martial artist in my teenage years.
I taught kickboxing, you know, so I've always been in good shape, but I really started to get into health and fitness, started to think about the political implications of health and fitness in particular because, you know, we We tend to think of health and fitness as being, you know, like a personal choice and maybe not having a kind of broader political importance, but actually it really does.
And then, you know, that was dramatized, of course, by the pandemic, by everything that happened during the pandemic, you know.
Health and fitness suddenly became actually, and the kind of virtues associated with being healthy and fit, you know, suddenly became a political issue of the greatest importance.
You could imagine.
So I was posting through 2020, through the pandemic.
I wrote a cookbook, The Raw Egg Nationalism Cookbook, telling you how to make raw and cooked egg dishes and also, you know, doling out some political and nutritional red pills as well.
You know, it was like a manifesto.
And then I was on Tucker Carlson's, or in Tucker Carlson's documentary, The End of Men in 2022 about testosterone decline.
And that just catapulted me to a new level of notoriety on the internet, you know.
And it's been crazy ever since, really.
chase geiser
What, in your opinion, best guess, is the primary cause of the testosterone decline?
charles cornish-dale
I think, so I've got a new book, actually.
So, my new book, The Last Men, Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity, which is coming out with Passage Press in a month, or in April, rather, is Specifically about testosterone decline and the political implications.
I think it's very complicated.
I think it's very complicated.
But one of the principal causes definitely is massive exposure to harmful industrial chemicals, to food additives, estrogenic food additives.
We've created this incredibly toxic world.
It's an incredibly toxic world.
Unlike any environment our ancestors ever had to exist in, we're exposed to things like BPA, phthalates, PFAS, all of these industrial chemicals which mimic estrogen in the human body.
This is where the gay frogs thing comes from.
chase geiser
Atrazine, right.
Atrazine is actually outlawed in the United Kingdom, right?
charles cornish-dale
I think so, yes.
chase geiser
The difference between testosterone levels here and there?
charles cornish-dale
No, this is actually a civilizational thing.
So I mean, there are specific chemicals that might be banned in the EU, but you know, legal in the US.
But actually, wherever you go in the developed world, you're going to be exposed in a massive way to harmful chemicals.
Many of them actually are associated with plastics, you know, and we live in a plastic world.
You know, there's no way the modern world could exist in its current form without plastics.
You know, everything is made of plastic.
chase geiser
Yeah, our food's all wrapped in it and everything.
charles cornish-dale
Yeah, exactly.
And that's one of the reasons why actually it's a good idea to give up processed food if you can, you know, because processed food in particular is always served to you, or more or less always served to you, in plastic.
And it's one of the main routes for plastic to get into your body.
Microplastics, tiny, tiny little pieces of plastic, you know, that end up in food.
chase geiser
You know, I want to show this clip.
It's clip 52, guys.
I saw this clip on Tucker Carlson talking about the average age of puberty for young girls changing over the course of the last 100 years.
Yes. And it's interesting because you're talking about these estrogen mimickers, and I don't know much about science, but I imagine that if you're inducing young girls 10 years old with a bunch of estrogen, it might catalyze early onset puberty.
Let's watch 52 and then unpack it.
casey means
The average girl in America is getting hitting puberty which is sexual maturity six years earlier than they were in 1900.
We have the earliest puberty rates of any continent in the world.
It's age 10 and 10 to 13 and this is in large part thought to do because of we are literally giving children estrogen with all the plastics we're ingesting which are xeno and
I don't It's not legal in Europe, but it's sold to us from international countries.
unidentified
It's not legal in Europe?
casey means
No, you cannot use it.
And you put this on a developing male frog embryo, and it turns into a female frog.
That's how much of an estrogen disrupting, an estrogen, or an endocrine disrupting chemical that it is.
chase geiser
What do you think of that?
charles cornish-dale
Yeah, I agree with it, totally.
I mean, it's, uh, yeah, these chemicals are pervasive, and What's so particularly bad about them is that we're exposed to them from the moment of conception.
And that's when it's key.
One of the times when it's really key is post-conception.
You have an influx of particular hormones that make you male or female.
If you're a fetus that's going to become a boy, it's testosterone.
If you're a fetus that's going to become a girl, it's estrogen.
And these endocrine-disrupting chemicals get into the womb via the mother's blood supply.
I mean, they found microplastics inside the placenta and in the womb, but it's other chemicals as well.
And they disrupt the specific proper ratios of testosterone to estrogen, and that has all sorts of Terrible, terrible effects.
I mean, you know, you might end up, say, with a boy with a micropenis, a tiny penis, undeveloped penis, other genital abnormalities.
Yeah, it's totally pervasive.
It's totally pervasive.
It's one of the defining features, I think, of the society that we live in today and of the kind of health crisis that we face, that we can't escape these industrial chemicals.
chase geiser
Is there anything that you can do to Detox your body from the stuff.
charles cornish-dale
Hmm. Well, I think actually the best thing that you can do Chase is to avoid exposure in the first place.
You can't totally, you can't totally avoid exposure, but you can mitigate it significantly.
So for example, don't drink water from plastic bottles.
Avoid processed food.
Buy organic food, for example.
You know, there are ample studies that show, for example, that If you start, if you switch to an organic diet, if you start eating organic fruit and vegetables, and like organic high-quality meat, then you can significantly reduce the concentrations of these chemicals in your bloodstream within a week.
You know, like levels drop like 50% within a week.
chase geiser
Wow, that's amazing.
charles cornish-dale
So I would say mitigation, mitigation.
There are things that you can do also, yes, to detox your body.
I mean, exercise is a good thing.
Exercise activates particular processes, metabolic processes within the body that protect your body.
So being sedentary and exposed to these chemicals, it's like a double whammy.
It's like, you know, your body isn't primed to deal with them.
But if you exercise, then your brain, for example, will produce some brain-derived neurotropic factor which protects brain cells from harmful chemicals.
And, you know, Sweating is also a good thing.
So, you know, when you exercise and you sweat, that's a route out of your body for harmful chemicals.
And that's why saunering is good as well.
chase geiser
Well, I'm just thinking, it's racing through my head, all the implications of the low testosterone, because I know that there are studies that show that young girls who don't have a father figure, for example, in their life, They also go through puberty younger than the average girl because the body is saying there needs to be a man in this person's life from a like a protection standpoint.
It's an evolutionary thing that triggers that that that puberty.
So then you're attractive to grown men or some other man that can that can take care of you.
But then I also think about what happened after World War One here in the United States, Charlie, where a lot of people talk about prohibition.
It's a big thing in U.S. history.
Yeah. All alcohol being outlawed.
Almost immediately after World War One and then for an extended period of time, especially in the Roaring Twenties.
And we look at that from a libertarian standpoint and we think, oh, well, that sucks.
That's so stupid that the government came in and said people shouldn't be drinking alcohol.
But nobody talks about, and I don't believe in prohibition, so I'm just going to disclaim that.
But nobody talks about the fact that virtually every able-bodied man went to World War I back when they called PTSD shell shock, came back totally screwed up, having seen some of the most atrocious violence ever, the most atrocious conditions ever, with no psychological or psychiatric support whatsoever.
And a lot of them became alcoholics.
They would drink with the war buddies.
They would go to different groups and meetings and...
And that was really what the push was for this prohibition.
Now, the point I'm trying to make is, when men, whether it's because of alcoholism or low testosterone, Are incapable of being what men naturally are in society or need to be in society.
That's when you see women come in and get involved, right?
So prohibition was largely a feminist push.
And then you see that a lot of the feminist stuff that happened in the 60s and the 70s and the 80s, particularly after the decoupling of the dollar from gold as the global reserve currency, or as the precious metal that was backing it.
We saw massive inflation, so no longer could men solely provide for a family of four like they used to be able to because of this inflation.
That also catalyzed the feminism.
And now we're seeing that with the lack of testosterone, women are beginning to take on traditionally male roles in our civilization.
So we basically just kind of made all the men so beta, it seems like, that women are running the country and I guess this is what you get.
charles cornish-dale
Yeah, it's a complicated thing.
It's not just about exposure to harmful chemicals.
It's not just about unhealthy lifestyles.
I mean, these things are important, but what we've also done is we've created a world, I think, that is in many respects fundamentally hostile to masculinity and to expressions of masculinity.
Not only does having testosterone make you behave like a man, but Behaving like a man makes you have higher testosterone.
Really? Yeah, it's a virtuous circle.
You know, so like a man who has higher testosterone will be more successful, generally speaking.
But then being successful increases your testosterone.
It is a virtuous circle.
And so if you cease to give men outlets for their instincts as men, for their desire to do manly things, then actually That leads to plummeting testosterone levels as well.
It's a really knotty problem and it's got to be attacked from different angles.
We can't just, for example, get these nasty chemicals out of the environment.
We actually also have to give men a space to be men.
That fundamentally involves a reordering of our priorities and a reordering of society, I think.
It's not a simple thing to do.
It's not a simple thing to do at all.
chase geiser
What do you think the reason is for so much antagonism toward masculinity?
charles cornish-dale
I think it's I mean, I think it's part of the leftist program and always has been part of the leftist program right from the beginning and certainly a few if you look at Marxism if you look at the history of Marxism then You know, the fundamental goals, I think, of Marxism, or one of the fundamental goals of Marxism, has been to destroy the nuclear family and to destroy traditional gender roles.
You see that, for example, in Friedrich Engels' 1881 treatise, The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State, where he says, you know, quite explicitly, what we want to do with eliminating class society is actually to return to a primitive matriarchy where there are no there are no differences between men and women and in fact actually women in many respects have the kind of whip hand over men because they have total control over
their over the sexual function right you don't have nuclear families you have what's what what's often called promiscuous mating Which is basically polyamory, right?
I mean, it's interesting, of course, to see this push for polyamory today.
I mean, it's a very, very ideological thing and it has served a very particular ideological function for the left since the 19th century and maybe even before that.
chase geiser
Well, if women are going to be pursuing a career under the feminist push, then they're going to be getting married later.
And if they're getting married later, it's going to have implications for The population in terms of birth rate but also like it's a lot easier to save your virginity for marriage if you're gonna get married between the age of 18 and 22 like people used to do in the United States.
But if now we're getting married when we're closer to 30 because both parties are pursuing a career then you're asking people to not have sexual experiences for like 10 years and that I think I think this that's why there's been this push for polyamory because nobody wants to go 10 years without having sex.
It's miserable.
But getting married when you're 21 is almost impossible in our current economy because of inflation, and student loan debt, and our culture around pursuit of career or pursuit of family.
Sorry to interrupt.
charles cornish-dale
Yeah, no, I think it's true.
I mean, it's a complicated problem.
It's economic, it's social, it's political, it's ideological, it's religious.
You know, I mean, we've seen profound changes to all of these things over the last century.
It's not a problem that's going to be solved easily.
It's going to take time.
But nevertheless, the argument that I make in the book, The Last Men, is that we need to do something about this because if it gets worse, then on a biological level, we may not even be able to reproduce within a quarter of a century.
I mean, testosterone levels and sperm counts in particular are declining to such an extent so quickly.
But by 2045, by 2050, it's predicted that the median man will have a sperm count of zero.
And what that means, essentially, is that half of all men will produce no sperm whatsoever, and the other half will produce so few, they might as well produce none.
They're not going to get anybody pregnant.
Now, this is, I mean, this is a mainstream prediction.
This is made by Professor Shanna Swan.
She's been on Joe Rogan.
You know, she's one of the foremost reproductive health experts in the world.
And she's just extrapolating the data from the testosterone decline and the sperm count decline.
I mean, this is a social problem, yes, but it's also a biological problem that suggests that actually we may end up in a position in a quarter of a century where we will have to reproduce by artificial means if we reproduce at all.
chase geiser
It's wild that the left talks so much about climate change and nothing about this crisis.
charles cornish-dale
Well, I mean, look, the climate change narrative is fundamentally a misanthropic narrative.
You know, I mean, young people are being told, the younger generations, the zoomers, gen alpha, are being told, look, you don't want to have children because what do children do?
Children produce carbon emissions and carbon emissions are killing the planet.
Literally, you know, if you have a child, basically you are helping to kill the planet.
And children are being told this from a very young age and they're taking it on board.
And, um, Yeah, it's bad, bad news.
So it's not a...
I mean, it's not really a wonder that leftists are pushing this stuff.
But of course, they only talk about Western civilization is the interesting thing.
You know, it's wrong for people in America to have children.
It's wrong for people in Europe to have children, but they never say anything about, for example, population increase in Africa or in the subcontinent or anywhere like that.
chase geiser
I want to show you clip number 18. This is a clip of dating etiquette from the 1950s.
That I saw today, and it kind of ties into what we've been talking about.
Let's run 18 and unpack it on the other side.
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Well, here it is, the dance night.
Bill is well-groomed.
That's the first step.
His next problem is what to say when he gets to Helen's door.
Bill wonders who's going to open the door.
How do you do?
I'm Bill Jenkins.
I've come to call for Helen.
Oh, yes.
How do you do?
Nice start.
We've been expecting you.
Now, let's do it again.
And suppose that Helen had opened the door.
Hi, Helen.
Gee, you look nice.
Well, thank you.
Do you like my new dress?
Yeah. Well, come on in.
That was unnatural.
Any honest compliment is tops in date etiquette.
Bill, this is my mother.
Helen slipped up on her introduction.
The rule here is the younger person is always presented to the older person.
Try it again, Helen.
Mother, this is my friend, Bill Jenkins.
Hello, Bill.
How do you do?
Mother, this is Bill Jenkins.
He caddies at the municipal golf course.
Maybe you've seen him there sometimes.
How do you do, Bill?
How do you do?
Good. And Helen, mentioning Bill's job, has started a lively conversation.
chase geiser
That doesn't exist anymore.
It's just swiping on apps.
charles cornish-dale
It is, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's...
Might as well be a broadcast from another planet, mightn't it?
chase geiser
Yeah, it's almost like the Twilight Zone watching it.
I can't believe it ever even existed at this point.
charles cornish-dale
Yeah. I mean, one of the main points that I like to make, actually, about relations between the sexes is that there needs to be some more mystery.
One of the things that's really missing, actually, I think, in interactions between the sexes, and it explains a lot of the...
a lot of the problems, I think, actually, is the fact that all the mystery is gone.
You know, all the mystery is gone.
Men and women...
Work together in the same workplaces.
They work out together.
They spend so much time together Without any kind of formality without any kind of like you saw in the clip You know the ritual the kind of separation all of that's gone.
And so what you get is you actually get Well, there's a saying isn't there familiarity breeds contempt and I think in certain respects actually what you see between the sexes today is a kind of profound contempt for each other and But yeah, I mean I'd whether or not you could ever actually return to that world or you could easily return to that world I certainly think you could We might need a little bit of that spirit.
Maybe just a little bit would go a long way Yeah, I absolutely agree.
chase geiser
It's just it's it's hard with problems like this man because Since they're not caused by any one thing.
There's no one solution that can solve them and One of the challenges in the United States of America is we have an administration that changes every four or eight years So there's no long-term continuity of leadership.
And it was okay back in a time in the United States where we had such a high degree of cultural consensus that even if the people and leadership changed, the direction was kind of the same for a period of time.
But now that we've embraced diversity, equity, and inclusion, we've allowed our borders to import 20 million people while our own people are having abortions to the tune of millions a year, and depopulation is through the roof, and testosterone has collapsed, And the dollar is based on nothing except for war?
Like, my concern is that the problem is so complicated that we don't have the system in place to actually solve it.
How do we get everybody so on board with the solution to this?
charles cornish-dale
Yeah, that's a, I mean, it's a hell of a question.
That's a hell of a question.
And it's similar to the question, you know, the kind of Maha agenda.
You know, before the election, Robert F. Kennedy said, look, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said, look, we're going to make America healthy again in four years.
And I mean, it's just it's just not going to happen.
It's just not going to happen.
I mean, it's taken 100 years at least to make Americans this unhealthy.
And it's going to be a multi term.
Maybe a generational agenda, I think.
And yeah, how do you plan for that?
How do you plan for that?
I mean, I was at the NATO conference.
This is why I've been in in Austin for the past couple of days.
I was at the NATO conference that was organized by my friend Kevin Dolan of the EXIT group.
And somebody was speaking to me after after the event in, you know, sort of downtime.
He was saying, look, I think that The reproductive crisis, you know, dropping fertility rates, that needs to be actually flagged as a national security issue.
I actually think that the DNI, that Tulsi Gabbard, should identify this as a national security issue, because among other things, of course, it touches on military readiness.
So, you know, I mean, they're seeing this in Germany right now, you know, there's big talk of rearmament.
The new chancellor has just said we're going to pour a trillion dollars Or a trillion euros, rather, into re-armament.
You know, we're going to reactivate German heavy industry, we're going to produce more weapons.
But the Germans are struggling to maintain an army of 100,000 people, of 100,000 men and women, you know, because the birth rates aren't...
the birth rates are low, you know, you don't have patriotism in Germany.
They can't actually really face the Russian threat, or what they perceive to be the Russian threat, because they're not taking seriously All of these issues.
So, I mean, I think it requires a determined effort from government.
Long-sighted planning.
But the unfortunate thing is, of course, that we have political systems that prioritise short-term planning, planning for the election cycle, four years, you know, that's how far ahead we're going to look.
But actually, you know, in the US it looks like, right at this particular moment, that the Democrats are in such disarray The left is so divided and angry and it's turning on itself that actually, you know, you have a prime opportunity now to plan for a longer term, let's say MAGA agenda.
Trump again in 2028, Orvans, you know, I mean, they should be thinking of multiple terms now.
They should be thinking, you know, make America healthy again.
What are we going to do in 2028?
What are we going to do in 2032?
chase geiser
Absolutely. And Trump has made comments like this recently.
He says, look, shareholders of these major companies think in terms of quarterly returns.
I'm thinking in terms of 100 years.
This is obviously one of the things that's kind of threatening about the CCP is that the Chinese have a long-standing culture of thinking in terms of 100 years.
And I don't think that China inherently needs to be perceived as a threat just for the sake of it because it's so different or communist or whatever.
But obviously we've become so entangled through globalism and all these other major superpowers That I'm just hoping that a World War One level conflict doesn't take place where there's a domino effect that gets everybody inadvertently involved in a major conflict that accomplishes the depopulation agenda of globalism.
Folks, we're going to be right back after this four minute break with Raw Egg Nationalist talking about more of this.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I'm joined by raw egg nationalist.
You can follow him on X at baby gravy nine or go to man's world mag dot online.
Do you need to update your handle?
Baby gravy nine?
Just change it to raw egg.
charles cornish-dale
It's been so long though, you know, it's been five years.
chase geiser
Where'd you come up with that handle?
charles cornish-dale
Oh, you don't, you don't want to know.
unidentified
When I, when I started, I was at a ditty party and I thought baby gravy was pretty cool.
charles cornish-dale
I mean, yeah, might as might as well have been that.
chase geiser
But I want to show people a little bit of Man's World Magazine.
Overhead cam, please.
This is the coolest magazine I've ever seen.
It's like what a Playboy used to be without the porn.
And it's just stuff like this.
Man's World.
Smile even when your heart is breaking.
And it's Zelensky just getting his heart broken.
It's hilarious memes, outstanding articles.
OWN was actually featured in this edition.
So I'm not trying to plug what you're doing, Rog, but it's so good that I am going to plug it.
I recommend everybody go to mansworldmag.online and check it out.
But how did you decide that you were going to put together a magazine?
Nobody does that anymore, dude.
charles cornish-dale
Well, that's part of the reason why I decided to do it.
You know, I...
I was thinking about...
I was just thinking about men's magazines.
I was just thinking...
This was in 2020.
I was thinking, you know...
There aren't men's, because I write about masculinity and that kind of thing, and I was thinking, you know, men's magazines used to be a big thing, and Playboy, I mean, there's this old chestnut about Playboy.
I read Playboy for the articles.
chase geiser
The articles were great, though.
The Marilyn Monroe edition had an interview with Ayn Rand in it.
charles cornish-dale
Exactly, yeah.
I mean, Norman Mailer, Nabokov, all of these great writers.
Philip Roth, you know, these great people used to write for Playboy.
It was a serious magazine.
It was a taste-setting, trend-setting magazine for Sophisticated men, you know, for aspirational men.
And I thought, well, you know, it's a shame that there isn't something like that now.
And it's a shame that there isn't something that could showcase some of the more interesting stuff that's happening on Twitter, on the right.
You know, my own work, the work of other people that I liked.
And so I thought, you know what, I'll put together a magazine.
I'll see what it would look like as a kind of proof of concept.
And so I made an online version, just a PDF.
I didn't think much would come of it but the response to it was huge.
Yes. And so then for the next sort of two or three years then I kept putting out these online versions of the magazine periodically with the aim of finally one day having an actual physical magazine.
And then I teamed up with Passage Press, and we managed to realize the dream of having an actual, a new men's magazine that is totally up to date, is like Playboy.
chase geiser
And the content's timeless.
It's not just like news from what was happening when it came out.
It's awesome.
charles cornish-dale
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
We're really trying to showcase the best of of what the kind of new right the dissident right whatever you want to call it has to offer and uh you know we've got some big names we've got some big names in the latest issue you know still really going strong it's it's a profitable enterprise now you know we're really we're really looking to take over the world and i mean i went to miami uh in october for hereticon this sort of conference and uh there was a panel about right-wing culture about you know And
so Jonathan Kieperman, the guy, Lomez, who runs Passage Press, he was there with me, Curtis Yarvin was there, other people were there on the panel, and afterwards someone from Playboy actually came up to me and he said, you know, we're all taking notice of what you're doing with Man's World.
Uh, because they're actually, so for five, I think for four or five years, they haven't printed a physical edition of Playboy.
chase geiser
I didn't realize that.
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Sales have been, sales have been so- I was wondering why I wasn't getting it in the mail anymore.
charles cornish-dale
Yeah, sales have been so low that they've just kind of retreated back to the internet, to the website.
chase geiser
Uh, and now- Yeah, but you're never going to be able to compete with internet porn on playboy.com.
charles cornish-dale
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, the whole, the whole model has been, um, challenged and, and, you know, they, they kind of descended into, you know, into the worst kind of libtardery you know they had a transgender centerfold and all oh yeah and it's yeah it's just it's pandering the whole i mean hugh hefner must be turning in his grave but anyway this chap from playboy said to me look yeah we're really interested in what you're doing we've got a new we're gonna have a another Physical edition coming out soon and you know,
we're really paying attention He actually said to me I want to interview you in playboy about what's wrong with playboy.
chase geiser
That's awesome That's actually so sounds like they're they're wising up because that's a pretty wise business decision for them to make I think yeah I think so.
charles cornish-dale
Yeah, I think so.
But it's yeah, there's nothing like it on the market at the moment It's really a strange unique thing, but but people love it when we first spoke you were very sensitive I was on your podcast.
chase geiser
I'd come out with a book.
You're very sensitive about your identity.
Yeah, and so I was Careful not to, you know, share.
I don't even think you gave it to me.
No. Can you tell me a little bit about how you were doxxed and why?
charles cornish-dale
Yeah, it's a pretty crazy story.
So, I mean, I've...
You know, I started out posting anonymously, not really thinking very much, but I did never think that I would be a big account.
I didn't think I'd have nearly 300,000 followers and be on Tucker Carlson and all this kind of stuff.
But nevertheless, I thought, you know, it's good to maintain anonymity.
You know, there are consequences for...
Expressing, you know, your true opinion.
Sure. Especially in the UK, where I unfortunately still live.
But once I started to get big, then it was clear that I was on the radar of some activist organizations, including this organization in the UK called Hope Not Hate.
And they publish, they dox people, basically.
You know, they go after right-wingers and they dox them, they reveal personal information.
chase geiser
Are they Soros funded?
charles cornish-dale
I don't know.
They're government-funded, or they were government-funded in the UK, so they've received a lot of money from the taxpayer and they have intelligence contacts and they have contacts with the Home Office, security, that kind of thing, and they get hundreds of thousands of pounds.
I mean, recently, actually, when the USAID money got cut off, then I think they did a post where they said, yeah, we're having trouble paying people.
Wow. And I thought, hmm, yeah, I wonder why.
I wonder if it's got something to do with USAID being cut off.
But anyway, this activist organisation, they go after real right-wingers in the UK.
I was in their state of hate pamphlet.
So every year they publish this pamphlet called the state of hate where they, you know, write about.
chase geiser
Just because you have a position on immigration or something like that.
charles cornish-dale
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, you really, I mean, they write.
chase geiser
Would you consider yourself like bigoted or Islamophobic or anti-Semitic or anything?
charles cornish-dale
Well, I mean, you know, you get called every name under the sun.
All of these terms are basically emptied of content.
You know, they're just ways to label people as wrong thinkers, as people who are, you know, sort of targets for government.
People who should be silenced.
But anyway, so I was on their radar and then funny stuff started happening in the summer of 2024 last year.
So I went to my local farm shop one day and the owner came up to me and he said, Charlie, look, you've got to come and see this.
And he He takes an email, a printout of an email from his pocket, and he says, I got sent this.
And it was an email from a journalist at Business Insider.
It's a woman called Catherine Long.
And she had somehow worked out that I was shopping at this farm shop in rural England.
This is a journalist in the US, right?
Working for Business Insider.
And she said to him, I have reason to believe that there is this sort of like dangerous nationalist, you know, right wing Extremist shops at your farm shop.
He buys prodigious quantities of milk and eggs, raw milk and eggs.
Yeah, I know, I know, right?
So I'm just going there to buy some cheese and some eggs, you know, and I get confronted with this.
But she said to me...
chase geiser
This could only be one man.
charles cornish-dale
He knew who it was as soon as he read about like, you know, prodigious quantities of raw milk.
He knew it was me.
But she was asking him To dox me, basically.
To give my personal information.
Which is illegal, by the way.
So she was commissioning an illegal act.
chase geiser
Your employer?
She asked your employer to do this?
charles cornish-dale
No, she asked the guy at the shop to give out customer information.
There are data protection laws.
You're not allowed to do that kind of thing.
Anyway, he showed me this and I was like, oh my god.
chase geiser
So you knew they were really digging?
charles cornish-dale
I knew they were really digging.
And actually later, this year, she turned up In the Marco Ellis stuff, so you know the guy who was working for Doge and they really went to town on him.
chase geiser
Big balls.
charles cornish-dale
No, he's another, they went to town on Big Balls, but it was another guy as well and they dug up his old anonymous Twitter account.
chase geiser
Oh yeah, okay.
charles cornish-dale
He said, I mean, he said some fairly innocuous stuff.
He said stuff like, I was racist before it was cool to be racist.
chase geiser
Right, right.
charles cornish-dale
Hilarious. Stuff like that, you know, just like edgy stuff that he said five years, vaguely edgy stuff that he'd said five years ago.
But anyway, they tried to get him to lose his job and for a moment he did and then he was reinstated.
But yeah this I mean this woman was I mean she glows I did you know she's she's very obviously some kind of intelligence contact within the American media she Went to an Ivy League University.
She worked.
She did a State Department placement working on armed shipments to Iran She worked for USAID in Central Asia in Tajikistan She speaks Farsi and Tajik and she's been involved in all of this doxing of people who actually you know seem to be kind of like Potentially, you know, targets of the regime.
But anyway, I was then doxxed a couple of weeks later after I had this close escape by Hope Not Hate, who have links to the British government, who've received money from the British government, so...
chase geiser
Did you lose your job?
charles cornish-dale
I didn't have one at the time, which was nice.
I mean, I've been existing on the proceeds of my raw egg cookbook and other things, and also working for InfoWars.
For quite some time now.
So I was lucky enough that I didn't actually have a normie job that could be imperiled by these people.
But you know, so many people do.
And it's intended to have a chilling effect, of course.
You know, you see people getting doxxed and you think, well, actually, no, I shouldn't speak up online.
I shouldn't say that.
I shouldn't do that.
But I mean, fundamentally, it's been good for me.
It's been good for me.
chase geiser
Well, the real danger of it for somebody living in the United Kingdom is you're not A lot of the same means to defend yourself as we are here in the United States.
I mean, I'm here in Texas and I'm always carrying a firearm on my side.
You know, if somebody's going to attack me or break into my house, you know, unless they're the law enforcement.
So I was swatted.
I know what that's like.
That was dangerous and I wasn't going to be able to use my firearm in that situation.
But if somebody shows up, you know, it's at least I can defend myself.
But in the United Kingdom, if you get doxxed and a mob shows up with pitchforks and torches, what are you going to do?
You can't even use a samurai sword anymore.
charles cornish-dale
No, you can't use a samurai sword.
chase geiser
Ninja sword is what he called it.
charles cornish-dale
It's a ninja sword.
It's so funny.
It's so indicative of everything that's wrong with the British government.
You know, they're banning ninja swords.
Unbelievable. And not...
I mean, Harrison and I were talking about this about the kind of...
there was a nunchuck craze.
After Enter the Dragon in the UK, which was what, 1973 or whatever, then nunchucks were banned in films.
Right. And they were banned for sale, and there's all these sort of, like, strange moral panics that have been going on for quite some time, rather than addressing, like, let's say, the real causes of knife violence, the real causes of street violence.
You know, you ban ninja swords.
I mean...
chase geiser
Yeah, when was the last time there was a mass slaying with a ninja sword?
Yeah. So, tell me a little bit about...
Give me the inside scoop on what's going on in the United Kingdom Obviously we're very friendly with Tommy Robinson here at Infowars.
Yeah. He's done some amazing work talking about the migrant crisis over there and some terrible things have befallen him as a result of the work that he's done.
So we're praying for him and always trying to support Tommy Robinson.
But I can imagine that you and I had a similar upbringing despite the fact that you're from the United Kingdom and I'm from the United States because I grew up in a very small town in the middle of nowhere farmland Illinois in the United States.
And it was a very just American traditional 4th of July type town.
Everyone was Christian.
Everyone had similar values, similar beliefs.
Even the Democrats and the Republicans kind of got along.
It was Republican leaning, but not all one way or the other.
My public school was actually fairly good.
I didn't encounter a whole lot of woke or communist ideology at the time.
I grew up in an America that I don't even know if it exists anymore.
Even in the town that I grew up in, you growing up in rural England, I imagine you had a very English upbringing.
I imagine that it was what one would imagine if they were thinking what it must be like to grow up in England when they think about the old Disney movies and what the English are like.
You know what I mean?
So tell me a bit about what you've witnessed in England has changed over the course of your cognizant life.
charles cornish-dale
Yes, I mean, so I'm 37 now, you know, and England has changed a huge amount.
So it's like, let's say that's a generation.
I mean, the England of my childhood is not completely dead, but it's on the way out.
You can see it.
Yeah, I mean, it's difficult to know where to start, really, actually, to describe all of the changes that have taken place.
But, I mean, one of the most significant changes, of course, was the beginning of the era of mass immigration, and that was 1997.
That was when Tony Blair and New Labour came to power.
Net legal migration in 1997 was something like 50,000, and it's a million today.
So the government is letting...
chase geiser
A year.
charles cornish-dale
A year.
It's letting in a million people legally.
chase geiser
Right, and England's a much smaller country than the United States.
charles cornish-dale
Yeah, I mean the population is somewhere between 16-17 million, actually largely because of immigration.
The population is climbing because of immigration.
So 1997 really was, I think, a watershed in recent English history, or British history.
So much of, I think, of what's gone wrong can be traced to Tony Blair and the new Labour government, but what's particularly noticeable, what's particularly shameful, I think, is that the Conservatives, the Conservatives really picked up the torch, really picked up the, or were kind of passed the baton by Tony Blair, and took it to a whole new, took it to a whole new level, you know.
I mean, it was the Conservatives, it was Boris Johnson, in particular, who was looked at as a kind of...
chase geiser
Tricked everybody.
charles cornish-dale
Yeah, people had high hopes for him.
People were saying, oh, Boris Johnson, he's a classicist.
He can recite the Iliad in archaic Greek, and he can.
chase geiser
Yeah, we all know what happened to the Greeks.
charles cornish-dale
Yeah, well, and I mean, you know, he was responsible not only for letting in a million people a year, or close to a million people a year, but also for changing the sources of immigration to Britain.
So, you know, I mean, People were angry about mass immigration from the EU, about, you know, large numbers of Polish people coming to the UK, but now it's sub-Saharan Africans and people from the subcontinent.
You know, it's a totally different sources of immigration.
So all sorts of stuff has been happening largely due to this kind of ongoing, say, 30-25 years of mass immigration that's only accelerating.
And in fact, I mean, it's very visible.
It's become much more visible, I would say, since about 2020.
So what, you know, once upon a time, and I'm sure this was true in America as well, you would only get the benefits of diversity in a large urban center, in a city, like New York, for example.
chase geiser
The benefit.
charles cornish-dale
Yeah. And London, you know, obviously you'd see it in London, but now you'll see Sub-Saharan Africans in small villages and towns, you know, like I'll go to my local town and there's a Like a Ugandan woman carrying her shopping on her head.
I mean, and you didn't see that even four years ago.
But I think quite deliberately migrants are being moved out into smaller communities outside the large cities precisely because the government is determined to make it impossible for anybody to avoid, you know, this kind of process of social engineering that began in 1997 that's been taking place for 30 years or so.
chase geiser
Now, I've seen a lot of clips of people in the United Kingdom who have been arrested for things that they posted on social media.
There are viral clips of judges sentencing people to years in prison because of what they posted on social media.
And it's things that, in the United States, you'd never go to prison for.
Criticism of immigration, things like that.
Have you ever feared that you were going to be arrested for some of the things that you've said online?
Have you ever posted anything illegal?
charles cornish-dale
I mean, who knows?
chase geiser
It's so arbitrary, right?
charles cornish-dale
It's incredibly arbitrary and the dreadful thing is that actually the police in the UK have the power to determine whether something is offensive or not.
So if you post something on social media, you can get in trouble simply if the police decide that could be offensive to someone.
So, you know, there doesn't have to be a report.
It's not like you've offended somebody, and they've actually filed a specific report, a specific person.
The police can say, no, this could be offensive, and you can get in trouble just for that.
So they comb social media, they look for people to actually arrest for potentially offensive content.
And it's not even about intention.
They don't even ask, actually, Did this person intend to be offended?
Right. It's just, could this be construed in a manner that would offend someone?
I mean, it's incredibly sinister.
Incredibly sinister.
And you should be, however much freedom of speech and freedom of conscience and all of these other fundamental rights have been eroded in the US, you still have protections that we just don't.
You know, the First Amendment is still, you know, is still an ideal, is still a living ideal.
Sure. Whereas in many ways, I think, in the UK, then we've, you know, we've forgotten.
We've forgotten our kind of fundamental conception as Anglos, as the English people, you know, to liberty and to freedom of conscience and freedom of speech.
chase geiser
So, freedom of speech isn't protected in the United Kingdom.
People are getting arrested for the things that they post online.
If you criticize mass migration, you might be imprisoned as well.
We saw this with Tommy Robinson.
The government has systematically for years disarmed all of the English people.
Whether it's nunchucks or ninja swords or firearms, and they've catalyzed, sponsored, and allowed for the mass migration of people into the United Kingdom who don't espouse Western values.
I don't care about race or things like that, but if you're not going to be Western, then why are you importing a different combative, non-compatible culture, right, into the heart of another culture?
It just seems like a recipe for disaster.
What are your thoughts, then, on How this problem can be solved and how do you feel?
I know there's kind of been a trend of a lot of people becoming royalists.
Obviously in America, the royal family is something that we like to just bash constantly because of our heritage.
And meaning no disrespect to you, I'd love to hear what you think about the royal family.
Are you a royalist or are you moving in a different direction?
Because it seems to me that a good king could come in and just fix this all up.
Yeah. Not that King Charles is a good king being descended from Dracula and whatnot.
charles cornish-dale
No, well, this is, yeah, I mean, this is the thing, of course, is that, yeah, I mean, the situation in many ways does feel quite hopeless in the UK, and if you walk around and you look at ordinary people in the street, they're really demoralized, they're really hurting, and you can kind of feel it, you know?
I mean, I feel, I notice the difference far more when I come over here, and I feel the kind of energy You know, the energy surrounding the kind of Trump movement, the sense that there is optimism, that the future, the future things could change, I mean, and fundamentally change.
There's none of that in the UK, not really.
And so, yeah, the idea that there might be an imminent political solution, that's just not there, that's not there.
I mean, we have reform with Nigel Farage, but already that seems to be a captured movement, and he seems to be He actually seems to be an establishment politician like the rest, and his main priority, I think, is just to become.
The Prime Minister.
That's his political ambition now.
It's just to become the Prime Minister.
He doesn't want to rock the boat too much.
He's very wary of talking about deportation.
He's very wary of talking about immigration in any kind of meaningful way.
You know, I thought he would be inspired by Trump to be bold.
You know, Trump's just been elected on a platform of deporting 20 million people, right?
You know, I mean, I didn't think it would be too out there for Nigel Farage to say, yeah, we need to deport a lot of people too.
But he hasn't done that.
He's really refused to do that.
And reform is kind of devolved into infighting.
And it's all getting a bit nasty.
And, you know, they're not focused on the real problems.
So, yeah, so it's hard to see where a kind of legitimate political solution might come from.
The X factor, as you suggest, is the monarchy.
I mean, the monarchy still exists and does still have power.
And I'm sure that at some At some level, an intervention from the monarchy could be quite decisive.
But, I mean, King Charles isn't going to do that.
There's no way.
And I mean, you know, there are these persistent rumours that King Charles has converted to Islam, for example.
chase geiser
Do you think it's true?
charles cornish-dale
I don't know.
I don't know.
Who knows?
But he certainly seems to be perhaps a little bit too enamoured of Islam, and he's certainly...
I don't think that he's he's wanted to be king all his life of course and he's been in the shadow of his mother you know who was Britain's longest monarch and you know he's in his 70s now and it's taken a long time for him actually to become king but yeah I don't I don't think that that's um that that's gonna happen.
chase geiser
We've got this uh breaking news here coming across the desk.
Trump supporter at a Tesla dealership mowed down by anti-Musk demonstrator Alan Talbot in Idaho.
Do we have this clip ready?
All right, let's show the clip.
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We just learned that a 70-year-old man was arrested after Meridian Police say he hit another man with his car during today's demonstrations at the Tesla dealership in Meridian.
Police say 70-year-old Christopher Talbot of Meridian made an obscene gesture towards a counter protester and then hit him with his car.
Police say the victim had been driving a truck with pro-Trump flags and had just parked and gotten out of his car when Talbot hit him.
chase geiser
All right.
Well, obviously, there's going to be more details for that coming.
We've only got about a minute and a half left, Charlie, of this broadcast before we go to break and things are over.
I'm anxious to hear what Alex thinks of this because Alex has been warning about false flags and things of that nature a lot lately of, you know, black churches being bombed, things like that, in order to make the right look like the antagonist in these situations.
So we'll be following that very closely as things develop, but we wanted to air that breaking news for the audience here.
In the last 30 seconds or so that we had together, Charlie, can you just remind everybody where to find you, follow you and share any last thoughts?
charles cornish-dale
Yeah, of course.
So follow me on Twitter at baby gravy nine.
I have a sub stack page, raweggstack.com, where you can get regular exclusive essays, nutritional content and advice, workout plans, etc.
Mansworldmag.online, that's the website for Mansworld.
It's published by Passage Press and you can subscribe at passage.press, have the magazine delivered to your home.
Passage will also be publishing my new book, The Last Men, Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity, in April.
You can pre-order it then.
chase geiser
Very good.
Well, thank you so much for coming on the Sunday Night Live broadcast on InfoWars.
It's been an honor and a pleasure to speak with you, Charlie.
I appreciate it.
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