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Feb. 25, 2024 - Sunday Night Live - Chase Geiser
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Trump Gives Epic Victory Speech After Historic Landslide in South Carolina; Haley Refuses To Leave The Race — Sunday Night Live - FULL SHOW - 02/25/2024
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owen shroyer
Ladies and gentlemen, it's it for Sunday Night Live.
We're so glad you decided to stick around here on a Sunday night, spend your evening with us after the epic Alex Jones Show.
Let me tell you what we have coming up.
We're gonna play Trump's victory speech from last night.
We're gonna take your calls in response to it, like Lindsey Graham getting brought up on the stage and getting booed.
That's the second time that's happened to Lindsey Graham at a Trump event, by the way, so I don't know.
I mean, is Trump doing that intentionally or what's up with that?
He does respond to it with the crowd.
And then we have to observe the fact that Nikki Haley refuses to drop out.
That is for a reason.
Why is Nikki Haley refusing to drop out?
Well, it's not because she's having success.
It's not because she has any path to victory.
That is unless there is a plan and she's in on it Or there's a plan, and she's at least aware of it, to have Trump off the ballot or not able to run, whatever that means, this November in 254 days.
So we're gonna air Trump's victory speech this segment, we're gonna start taking calls, and then in the final segment, we're going to debut an interview that I cut This is a serious issue and it's something that we really don't like to talk about.
I mean, we do talk about the blackmail with the pedophiles and the liberal agenda to sexualize your children, but there's something a little more at home maybe parents should be aware of with your children on the internet.
I sat down with one of the most prolific Child predator catchers.
I mean, this guy has hundreds of arrests under his belt.
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It's a great distraction.
There's great tools on there.
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So, I'm gonna do a little live reaction here to Trump's victory speech in the first segment.
Let me give out the phone number right now as well, and we can start aggregating some phone calls.
I'm not exaggerating when I tell you, I don't know a single Biden voter.
I don't know a single Biden supporter.
I don't know a single Biden voter.
won't Nikki Haley drop out.
And how about this for another wild card?
I'm not exaggerating when I tell you, I don't know a single Biden voter.
I don't know a single Biden supporter.
I don't know a single Biden voter.
Now, I'm sure I could go out and maybe find one.
But, I mean, I have friends that are liberals.
I have friends that are Democrat voters.
I have friends that are pro-choice.
They're not voting for Biden.
I mean, I know women that are very pro-choice.
They are not going to vote for Joe Biden.
Now, that doesn't mean they're going to vote for Donald Trump, per se, but they will not vote for Joe Biden.
Now, maybe this is all a moot point, because Biden might not be the one in the race come November.
So, these are all the things we'll weigh tonight.
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Let me give out the phone number.
We'll get your reactions to Trump's victory speech and then the other topics I've laid out.
877-789-2539.
877-789-2539.
And the crew will get you up and on the air.
So I'll do some live responses here.
This is Trump's victory speech.
It was a historic victory as far as the numbers are concerned.
By the way, the Democrats had a historic low turnout in South Carolina.
Trump had a historic high turnout in South Carolina.
And so here was Trump's victory speech last night.
They're singing, they're dancing, they're clapping. - That's what they're dancing, they're clapping. - That's what I'm saying.
In a way, Trump kind of needed this break from being the president because he was working like 16 hours a day.
You could tell in that final year, he was a lot worn out.
And for a man nearing 80 years old, he's looking energized, I'll tell you that.
I mean, Biden clearly is struggling physically, mentally.
Donald Trump, not so much.
unidentified
I got you, Randy.
owen shroyer
Guys, I don't know if we just want to click forward a couple seconds here so we can get him going here and spare ourselves the dead air.
We all love the song, but we've heard it a million times.
So let's just fast forward about 30 seconds.
There we go.
Thank you.
unidentified
God bless you.
owen shroyer
Wait a second.
unidentified
Okay.
owen shroyer
I don't know what... Guys, what just happened there?
What just happened there?
Did we just skip the whole thing?
Is that what we did?
Okay.
Well, uh, the crew got a little aggressive on the fast-forward there, guys.
Uh, we're gonna get it right.
Go ahead and just play it.
So I guess we're not going to risk hitting that fast forward again then.
tim scott
Is that the deal?
unidentified
Okay.
owen shroyer
That's fine.
Always a man to build up anticipation is Donald Trump, is he not?
He certainly is.
Even here on our show, after the fact, still building the anticipation.
Or maybe it's just my crew.
Now he's directing the chorus.
Stepping up to the mic, Donald Trump.
unidentified
Thank you.
Wow.
That is really something.
donald j trump
This was a little sooner than we anticipated.
unidentified
They declared this victory faster than Arizona.
donald j trump
Bigger win than we anticipated.
owen shroyer
It was a record win, actually.
donald j trump
And doubled Nikki Haley, her home state.
Yeah, they're South Carolina.
owen shroyer
They know about Nikki Haley.
- That's so good.
donald j trump
So it's a record times two, and there's something going on in the country.
Some really great things are going on.
owen shroyer
- Yeah, South Carolina, they know about Nikki Haley.
They know about Nimrodda.
donald j trump
- You see millions and millions of people coming across the country.
We don't know where they come from.
They come from jails.
They come from prisons.
They come from all sorts of places that we don't want to know.
They come from mental institutions and insane asylums.
And we don't want that in our country.
We're not going to stand for it.
We're not going to stand for it.
You have terrorists coming in.
You have people coming in that we just can't, we can't do this.
No country could sustain what's happening to the United States of America.
No country.
So we're going to straighten things out.
owen shroyer
Yeah, this issue is killing the Democrats.
There's no way around it.
The open border, the illegal immigrant invasion, it's absolutely killing them politically.
donald j trump
And it should.
owen shroyer
I mean, quite frankly, there should be charges and investigations over this human trafficking operation Biden is running.
donald j trump
I do wonder what these rallies are going to be like coming up in a couple months.
owen shroyer
We ran two great races, but there's never been, ever... - I do wonder what these rallies are gonna be like coming up in a couple months.
I mean, he already had the biggest rallies of all time. - ... so unified as it is right now.
donald j trump
Never been like this.
And a big part of that is the people standing behind me.
These are the...
These are the biggest officials in South Carolina, but I say like the biggest officials in our country as far as I'm concerned.
They're really, they're state figures, but they're national figures.
owen shroyer
Nobody butters him up like Trump.
By the way, and you guys can just kind of keep this rolling in the background as he kind of glad hands here.
Are you seeing this?
This is what I'm seeing.
Normally, there's political footballs that go back and forth in an election season, and it's the left and it's the right, and they're tossing them back and forth.
But, there's stories in the fake news that are saying, MAGA conspiracy theories say gas prices are up.
MAGA conspiracy theories say grocery prices have doubled.
And it's just like, wait a second.
We can, as if you don't even have Any consciousness at all.
As if you don't have any memory at all.
You don't have eyes.
You don't have a brain.
You don't have any discernment.
You don't have any comprehension.
You're just a complete dullard.
To sit here and actually think, Oh!
unidentified
Oh!
owen shroyer
Oh, the liberal news says my gas bill didn't go up.
unidentified
Oh, it must not have happened.
owen shroyer
Oh, the New York Times says there is no inflation and the grocery bill didn't double.
Oh, well, gee, it must not be happening then.
I don't know what's going on with my bill when I leave the store because they say it's not real.
I mean, you can go back and look at your bank statements from 2019.
You'll see your grocery bill, maybe not doubled, but it's certainly gone up at least 30%.
I mean, I get pretty much the same thing.
I have a very routine schedule with the grocery store.
I go about usually once a week.
Get pretty much the same stuff, and it's just about doubled.
Now, granted, if you're buying steak and eggs, it's pretty much the majority of my diet, then yeah, you really got hit.
Steak and egg prices are jacked, baby.
But then they just write the stories and say, no, there is no inflation.
There is no increase in food prices.
But then you can actually just go search any search engine you want, and it'll show food prices up stories from the last three years.
But so then they say, that's not going on.
But here's my point.
Normally, the economic deal is a political football.
They'll kick it back and forth.
The ball has been punted out of the arena.
Everybody knows the economy under Joe Biden is crushing the average American citizen.
The average American is living paycheck to paycheck.
They know they were better off financially under Donald Trump.
No matter how many stories they print telling you the opposite.
Alright, I'll shut up here.
donald j trump
If I had the right to do it, I'd do it tomorrow.
unidentified
I'd say, we're having an election tomorrow.
donald j trump
Henry, is there anything you can do?
owen shroyer
Drop out, Haley.
donald j trump
I want to start off because right from the beginning, Henry McMaster, the governor of this incredible state, and...
And much more importantly, his wife Peggy.
She's with him all the way, I'll tell you.
Never saw anything, what a couple.
But I'd like to ask him to say a few words.
He's a very special man, an incredible governor, very popular in this state.
And really, I mean... Isn't that something?
owen shroyer
The governor of South Carolina endorsed Trump and not Haley, a former governor of South Carolina.
donald j trump
He was the lieutenant governor.
Ooh, that's embarrassing.
And from right at the beginning, when I announced, then I said, I don't know the gentleman.
Is he good?
They said, he's really great.
I said, well, I hope so.
And you know what?
Within about two weeks, I said, that guy is unbelievable.
You know, I never got the support of the governor.
She supported somebody else.
But I had the support of somebody much, much better, Henry McMaster.
And we won in a landslide.
And I'd like to ask the governor to say a few words, please.
owen shroyer
Now think about this, folks.
Everybody up there knows that it's the Democrats committing crimes against Donald Trump with all these fraudulent lawsuits.
Everybody knows it.
unidentified
This is a great moment in American history.
We'll probably never see another one like it.
Every time a rocket launches, you know it goes up slow and then it's climbing and climbing and then boom, that next stage comes off and it goes.
Well, we just did that.
We just hit maximum velocity.
So we're going all the way.
donald j trump
So I'm going to ask somebody else to say, because he came on board and Lindsey wanted him and the lieutenant governor wanted him and everybody wanted him.
Henry and Peggy wanted him.
So, I thought he was okay, but he didn't love speaking about himself, because he's a good person.
See, I have no problem with that, it's a problem.
owen shroyer
Trump had some hilarious moments over the weekend at some of these rallies too.
I may have to dig up some of those clips and pull them and send them to the crew.
The guy was hilarious this weekend.
donald j trump
And he campaigned nicely, but he's a high-quality person.
When he was supporting me the day, is that correct, Lindsey?
When he went out, Tim Scott, Senator Tim Scott, he went out and he was ripping it.
unidentified
I said, I said, what happened to Tim Scott?
donald j trump
What a dynamo!
And he has been one of our great advocates.
owen shroyer
He did get married.
I guess he got engaged, rather.
I don't think he's married yet.
donald j trump
I'm very happy he didn't have that same energy drive, because I think I probably would have been out of the race a long time ago.
But I want to say, a very special man.
I really do mean it.
So many people have such great respect for him, and you're very lucky to have him in the state.
Tim, please, say a few words.
tim scott
Hello, South Carolina!
The longer I speak, the less you hear of him.
So let me just ask one survey question, and you better answer it loud and clear.
unidentified
is South Carolina Trump country.
owen shroyer
Folks, Trump was filling massive arenas this weekend, like basketball arenas this weekend, filled to the brim for a primary in South Carolina.
donald j trump
But I always say when I'm in trouble on the left I call up Lindsey Graham and he straightens it out so fast.
And I'll tell you.
owen shroyer
I've been doing.
donald j trump
No, no.
unidentified
No, no.
tim scott
Remember.
Remember.
owen shroyer
Oh, we remember.
unidentified
What?
I love Amelia.
donald j trump
He's a good man.
Come up here, Lindsey.
Come up here, Lindsey.
unidentified
Here come the boos.
Come here.
owen shroyer
Oh, and an awkward refusal on the bump.
unidentified
America, the nightmare you're facing is just about over.
owen shroyer
You're part of it.
unidentified
Help is on the way.
This is the most qualified man to be President of the United States.
And let it be said that South Carolina created the biggest political comeback in American history.
Thank you.
owen shroyer
Now, look, We can all laugh about Lindsey Graham getting booed, and that is funny.
But there's a serious story here.
Because why is Lindsey Graham getting booed?
This is a new Republican voter base.
This is a new populist movement that has taken over the Republican Party.
Trump is obviously at the head of it.
But why does Lindsey Graham get booed?
Lindsey Graham gets booed because he's seen as a member of the swamp.
And I think more importantly, Lindsey Graham gets booed because he's pro-war.
Conservatives need to lean in.
Republican voters and representatives need to lean in on being anti-war right now.
And I know it's really hard for a lot of them on the Israel issue, but on the Ukraine issue, it's 100% a win.
So if they're too afraid to lean into anti-war on the Israel side and not call him out for the genocide, whatever.
But on the Ukraine thing, that's just a total win.
That's just a total win.
And I understand people listening out there and purists will say, well they should be anti all the wars.
You have to think strategically as a politician.
Hate to say it, that's just the case.
So I'm just telling you what they're thinking and how they think.
Lindsey Graham is seen as pro-war.
The new Republican voter is anti-war.
It would be very smart For Republicans to lean into that and at least be fully anti-war in Ukraine.
But again, it's this whole... It's not really political correctness.
It's like D.C.
establishment correctness.
Like, oh, well, I've got to go against Putin or they're going to say I'm for a tyrant.
You know, I got to go for Israel or they're going to say I'm anti-Semitic.
And so it's the same game as political correctness where you have to say the right thing or you're a bad person.
Being a conservative is anti-war.
Conservatism should be anti-war.
So when I see Lindsey Graham getting booed up there, that's what it represents to me.
He's pro-war, the new conservative, the new Republican voter is anti-war.
So I think that is a significant political shift happening right now.
And it's time for Republicans to lean into that and see which way the wind blows.
donald j trump
Thank you.
unidentified
We have a highly opinionated group of people. - I love you, bro.
donald j trump
I'll tell you, they turned very positive on you very quickly, Elizabeth.
So, you have a beautiful, beautiful state right next to you, North Carolina.
We love North Carolina, right?
In fact, they named their daughter Carolina.
And I said, which state?
She said, both.
She's very... I think I know which state, but that's okay.
But they have the most beautiful daughter named Carolina.
So we love both of them.
We love them both very much.
And we won them both very easily.
And one of the reasons we won North Carolina is a man named Michael Whatley, who looks like...
Who looks to me, we gave him our endorsement, and he looks to me like he's going to be going on to the National Republican Party as the boss.
owen shroyer
Now this is a little interesting here.
Watley... So obviously, Ronald McDaniel was supposed to bow out by now.
We'll be paying attention to that this week.
But Rana Romney McDaniel has not bowed out yet.
Now, Watley was kind of the number two, but really kind of the shadow hand is how it was being reported.
Running Rana McDaniel, greenlighting all of her stuff.
So I'm not sure how much of an upgrade Watley is really going to be.
He seemed to be the one kind of running Rana the entire time and greenlighting all that spending.
But Trump giving Watley the nod there, I think, confirms what a lot of people were believing, that Watley is going to be the replacement for McDaniel.
And I'm not sure that's really too much of an exciting announcement.
unidentified
And I said, that's my kind of guy.
He had hundreds of lawyers.
How many lawyers did you have?
He had 500 lawyers to make sure they didn't cheat and they didn't cheat in North Carolina.
And I said, that's my kind of guy, so I appreciate it.
Great job.
We're very proud of you, and you're going to do a fantastic job.
And come election period, you know, we used to have election night.
Now we have an election period, because some of these elections go on for 48 days, 61 days.
Then they announce, they get all this equipment, then they announce, they'll be announcing the vote in three weeks from now.
Can you imagine?
They don't know what they're doing, but I will tell you, you have done a fantastic job and we very much appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thank you, Michael.
owen shroyer
Not really, though.
Not really.
If you were doing a fantastic job, Haley wouldn't be spending hundreds of millions of dollars on a futile race.
By the way, Haley was all in in South Carolina and still fell flat.
Couldn't even get an endorsement from the governor.
unidentified
But hey, that's fine.
owen shroyer
Trump can be the great uniter.
We'll be the truth tellers.
I don't mind it.
It's fine.
unidentified
So we have members of Congress with us.
I'm very proud of this one because I sort of said, that guy would be great.
We had somebody that did a vote that I wasn't exactly happy with.
He voted to impeach your favorite president.
And until then, oh boy, he'd love to have that vote back, I can tell you.
But until then, until then, he was a man that couldn't be beaten.
I said, really, let's see.
donald j trump
I said, who do we have that's good?
unidentified
They said, the best we have is a man named Russell Fry.
And Russell Fry got out there, beat him so badly in the primaries.
He had my support.
And he's been a fantastic, a fantastic congressman.
So wherever you may be, hi Russell.
donald j trump
What a great job.
unidentified
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
We got rid of that one.
We got rid of a lot of them.
Almost, I guess, every one of them.
Almost every one of them.
Now they're gone.
The impeachers are all gone.
Nancy Mace is here, a non-controversial person, but she's a real advocate, and she's become a real advocate, and I appreciate it, Nancy, very much.
Thank you very much.
She's a very strong woman, and we want strong women.
We like strong women.
William Timmons, Congressman William Timmons, who's been a fantastic warrior for our country.
Joe Wilson, I spoke to you about him before.
He is tough and he is smart.
And he and his beautiful wife produced a wonderful, wonderful Attorney General.
So, Joe, thank you very much.
owen shroyer
Now, can you imagine, as he's got a couple minutes left here in his speech, But can you imagine Joe Biden doing anything like this?
unidentified
Of course not.
owen shroyer
Joe Biden can't be on the stage more than 15 minutes max.
They basically put a timer on him, and they say, Joe, you got 10 minutes, and then he'll go about 12, and then he'll start to walk off, freak out, look like a deer in the headlights, and then as the press is screaming at him, have to take a couple questions.
But I mean, Trump is actually out there as a leader, as a politician.
This is what it looks like.
This is what it sounds like.
And Biden is not even on the map, folks.
Biden is not even on the map.
And everybody knows it.
Everybody knows it.
So, they're gonna have trouble here.
And you know what?
We can go ahead and conclude our coverage of this.
He's basically glad-handing for now.
Keep it going, and I might go to it before we sign off this segment.
Really, I don't know, maybe it was just me, but it really felt like, I mean, you kind of heard some of it in the victory speech, but if you were watching Trump this weekend at his events, I think we're way ahead of where we're supposed to be as far as the political season is concerned.
I mean, you already feel like you're in Like full-blown regular season, middle-of-the-season mode right now.
Usually that doesn't kick in till summer of an election year.
So we're coming out of the gates blazing.
The Democrats, most people don't even know who their candidate is going to be.
They can pretend like it's going to be Joe Biden, but Most people are even doubting that that's going to be the case, so they may have to hit the reset button in the midseason.
And so that'd be like firing your head coach, firing your general manager, you know, trading off all your guys in the middle of the season and saying, All right, we're gonna hit the reset button.
Very rarely, if ever, does that equate to any victory.
That's usually throwing in the white towel and saying, We're done.
We're giving up.
But this weekend felt like it was a major push forward, and it wasn't anything unexpected, but it was just getting to this point in the season.
Getting to this point where, okay, we've now clinched the division, or we've now clinched the playoff picture, we've now clinched this.
And, of course, Nikki Haley won't go away.
We all know why.
But it's over.
The only way Trump is not going to be the nominee at this point is via Some sort of massive criminal activity against him, which is going on.
Or somehow they make it impossible for him to run, or the worst thing possible, you don't even want to say it.
So that's what's going on.
Even their case to get Trump off the ballot looks like it's going to fail.
I mean, that might even go 9-0 in his favor at the Supreme Court.
And that would be a devastating blow to the Democrats.
So they got all these different ways of trying to defeat him illegitimately.
None of them are working.
But I'm telling you, when you watch Trump's speech, multiple speeches, from this weekend, campaigning in South Carolina, and then the victory speech, I mean, Trump is already in mid-season mode.
Trump voters are already in mid-season mode.
And think about, we're having this massive momentum, we're having these massive victories, and we still don't even really control the Republican Party.
So it's all organic, it's all the people, It's all Donald Trump's will.
Now, you might not like Donald Trump, so you can call in and talk about that.
We got the phone lines filled, but if somebody calls in and wants to hang up, that means the line is open.
877-789-2539.
We're gonna start taking calls on the other side.
And I was gonna wait, and I'll probably just wait, and I'll play all these clips from the weekend tomorrow, because I basically already got the whole war room tomorrow gamed out.
But I'm telling you, Trump over the weekend was on fire.
Just fantastic speeches.
And liberals are just panicked.
Because it's undeniable that Trump's charisma is there.
I mean, the guy's got a great sense of humor, and he makes racial jokes over the weekend that are just hilarious.
And then the liberals are trying to make fun of him, like, oh, look, Trump's trying to cater to black people because they like tennis shoes.
And then there's all these black Americans like, yeah, I do like tennis shoes, actually, and these shoes are pretty sweet.
I think I'll vote for Trump.
It's like a massive trend on the internet.
Or Trump makes jokes at his campaign rally about how black people like him now.
And liberals in the media are like, oh my gosh, how can a black person vote for Trump now?
And they're like, what are you talking about?
How could I not?
And then that means all, and then all the clips of Joe Biden's racial comments from over the decades are all resurfacing and going viral now too.
People who've probably never seen him are now seeing him saying, oh, okay.
But these just lead us to the questions.
The same questions.
Why won't Haley drop out?
Well, we all know because she plans on Trump not being there, or she's aware of Trump not being there, potentially.
Can Joe Biden even really run for president?
What are they going to do to remove him?
And that's kind of where it's at.
Do you even know a Biden voter?
I know liberals, folks.
I know liberals.
I know Democrat voters.
I know pro-choice people.
They will not vote for Joe Biden.
Doesn't mean they're going to vote for Trump, but they ain't voting for Joe Biden.
So, I mean, Trump's on pace for a massive victory, but, I mean, even with all the voter fraud, he might still win.
Even with the massive voter fraud.
But now Republicans are aware, after 2020, it's like, okay, Democrats usually get about 10 million illegal votes, so we might want to keep an eye on that.
So even that's going to be tough for him.
All right, we're going to take your calls coming back.
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unidentified
Wow.
owen shroyer
Nikki Haley is even worse than we thought.
She's now, she's taking a victory lap.
I mean, what is wrong with this woman?
This is a sick, deranged woman.
She's making statements saying, oh, this is great for us.
We did great.
40% is a really high number.
Uh, not really compared to 60%, the winning number.
But okay, Nikki, you keep doing you.
You keep embarrassing yourself and destroying your political career.
What's up with that?
We're taking your calls now.
Remember, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to be taking your calls for the next hour of this InfoWars Sunday Night Live transmission.
And then, in the final segment, we're going to be debuting an interview live here on the air I did with Alex Rosen, who is one of the most prolific child predator catchers.
He's known as the Predator Poacher.
For all the work he's done hundreds of arrests catching predators, including individuals who already have a record known to law enforcement get released back on the street by liberal judges and then engage again.
In their pedophilic activities.
And so it was a very interesting interview, and he also talks about what to do if you're a parent out there to protect your child from these predators who are lurking and they are lurking on the Internet.
So all that coming up, but let's go to your phone calls now.
Let's start with William in Arkansas.
William, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
william in arkansas
Thank you for your service, what you're doing.
You're a patriot as any veteran out there.
And thanks for the few minutes that you give to the vet once a month.
I spent 23 years in uniform.
I am not a political party person.
I don't like it.
Neither one of them.
But we're going to have to go for Trump.
The speech was fine.
But speeches are cheap.
I've been around for about 61, 62 years now.
I've seen a lot of deal by both parties, and it soon fades after the election.
It's the next eight years after Trump that's most important, and the expedience of the young people to catch up on InfoWars-type information about the deep hole with all the insidious spiderwebs in this thing for the last 100, 200 years, literally.
You know, we've been undermined for a long time.
Roger Sherman wrote a book on this called Caveat of Injustice, The Upcoming Battle, 250 years ago or thereabouts.
He was the only man to sign the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Articles of Confederation.
But regardless, the young people, the expedience of them to learn what is necessary for them to make the right choices, And maybe even kind of put a lot of influence towards who the next vice is going to be, because it's that vice that's going to get the next eight years if Trump can get in and do a good job, and this vice can follow the principles that got Trump there and what needs to be with America.
I don't know about the second guy that talked about Noam whatever.
Ramaswamy talked a hard line.
Uh, how he gets away with it with so many in the past have not makes me question, but if he can stick to it and follow through, great.
That's what we need.
owen shroyer
Well, I agree.
That's why I'd like to see Ramaswamy not as a vice president, but put in charge of some either an administrative role.
Or if Trump just wants to give them the job of, I mean, call it whatever you want, the swamp drainer, the abolisher, I mean, even give it like a catchy title, and he goes in there and he just abolishes all the corruption in the federal government.
He said when he was running, he wanted to abolish 90% of the federal government, he wanted to abolish the FBI, the IRS.
All right, go in there, do it, earn your political capital, then run for president.
But I agree, and this is what's so frustrating to me about the RNC, and look, maybe the RNC is defunct anyway.
But that doesn't mean we shouldn't use it for the tool that it is.
I mean, it could be used for good.
I mean, who is looking at long-term strategy in the Republican Party?
I don't see anybody.
I don't see anybody doing that.
Nobody's looking long-term.
Nobody's general managing this deal.
And really, the Republicans have so much depth right now, and they have such an opportunity to secure the youth vote, these things need to be strategized.
But with Ronna Romney-McDaniel and, quite frankly, Michael Whatley behind her, they're not doing that.
They're just spending a bunch of money, and they're letting Nikki Haley spend a bunch of money on a worthless race.
So it's really unfortunate.
There's so much potential in the Republican Party to secure the next eight years and beyond even.
I mean, the Democrats should not have a shot at anything.
This should be the end of the Democrat Party if it wasn't already with Hillary Clinton.
Joe Biden should be the end of the Democrat Party, but the Republicans are so lacking in strategy and messaging that they refuse to put the nail in this party that needs to just go away like the Whig Party once did.
william in arkansas
I agree.
You know, I hope the best for the future.
It's the young people that are losing the freedoms and the fight and the sacrifice is going to be on them.
This is going to be one of the most important elections in the history of mankind, in my opinion.
I certainly could be wrong, but we're at a pivotal point where this new world globalist thing is really our worst enemy and the people that have been financing it and planning it for a long time.
You look back at what I said about Roger Sherman's book, A Caveat of Injustice.
You can't find a copy of it, but there's a lot of copies of Marx and Lenin and stuff like this.
I have a print of it because somebody I know went to the archives and stuff and printed it out.
But find a book.
You know, this is an ancient battle.
Um, you know, one of the Rothschilds said, I care not who makes its laws as long as I can control its money.
So you can give all the great speeches just like the Gettysburg Address if you want.
But if somebody's controlling your money, you have no sovereignty.
And the Republican Party and the Democratic Party that are all the warmongering side for the last 30, 40, 50 years, all my life, right?
War profiteering?
I'm sorry, I'm against it.
Get your butt in uniform.
I'm in for compulsory service, right?
I knew because of my service, Uh, days before Bush went into Iraq, that the Iraqi State Department had called the White House State Department and asked if they could go into Kuwait, because they were stealing each other's oil through diagonal drilling.
Well, White House State Department said, ah, no problem with it, whatever.
Now, maybe they should have, but the day after they went in, all hell broke loose.
That was in 91, people.
unidentified
91.
william in arkansas
That's how long—we've been over there longer than that.
But our old Iwo Jima vet, who is on A grandfather figure of mine, a long time ago in the '70s, said to a crowd of folks that our next war will be the Middle East, and after that it'll be Mexico.
Mexico's pathetic in the way of a government.
Now, you start talking about giving a 50-year oil concession by the Mexican government, gave the American oil companies a 50-year oil concession.
owen shroyer
Well, look, I would just say, generally speaking, the Republican Party needs to lean in on the conservative value of being anti-war.
They need to relabel what conservative values actually are, and that is anti-war and smaller government.
They need to really lean into that, but the Republican Party for decades has not actually been conservative.
It's time to restore those conservative values.
William, thank you for the call.
Let's go to Chris in South Carolina.
Chris, you're on the air, go ahead.
unidentified
Hey Owen, can you hear me?
Yes.
Hey, thanks for taking my call.
I've called Alex a few times.
This is my first time speaking to you, and I just wanted to thank you for what you did last fall, and I'm glad you got out for Christmas, man.
I'm sorry you had to go into the jail.
owen shroyer
Yeah, well, that's what they do.
That's what the Biden administration... Oh, no, that's what the Putin administration... Oh, no, that's what the Biden administration does.
Okay, I got you.
unidentified
Well I wanted to talk about the election last night.
I went and voted for Trump.
Proudly voted for him for the third time.
I live in the upstate in South Carolina.
And as I was watching the results come in on Fox Carolina that had all the county breakdown and It looked eerily similar to, like, when you see the red versus blue maps of Republicans versus Democrats, where, like, the whole country is red, but then you get these little blue dots where the cities are.
That's how it looked in South Carolina last night for Trump.
owen shroyer
Well, that's pretty typical, right?
I mean, it's not as bad in South Carolina, but, I mean, you look at Charleston.
I don't know what other of the strong blue areas would be, but I know Charleston is one of them.
It's not as dramatic as, say, an Illinois or a Pennsylvania or an Ohio or a Colorado, but, I mean, this is how the Democrats win elections.
They don't have massive supports outside of the major cities where they have their welfare voters.
unidentified
Yeah, well, I mean, pretty much the entire state, they had it in green.
All the counties were for Trump, but then in Charleston and other places on the coast, and then in Columbia, in the center of the state.
owen shroyer
So that's a college area.
unidentified
Yeah, it was really obvious that if anyone was voting for Nikki Haley, it was probably mostly Democrats.
owen shroyer
Oh yeah, for sure.
unidentified
I wanted to mention what she said in her speech.
owen shroyer
You know, that's actually an interesting point.
Hold that thought.
Hold your thought on the Haley speech.
That's an interesting point.
Now, okay, let's just focus on what you said.
So the Democrats had a record low turnout in South Carolina, and I asked myself, I said, Is that because of Joe Biden's lack of popularity?
Is that because the lack of voter enthusiasm on the Democrat side of the aisle right now?
Yes.
But then you also have the aspect of Democrats voting for Nikki Haley.
But in South Carolina, you have to be a registered Republican to vote in the primary.
So wouldn't Democrats have to switch party affiliations, or am I wrong about that?
No, sir.
unidentified
South Carolina is an open primary.
owen shroyer
Okay, so then there you go.
So that might explain it.
So that might explain why Nikki Haley even got 40 percent.
So really, because Trump had a record number of votes.
So without the Democrat vote last night, Haley probably gets 20 percent.
unidentified
That's what my guess was.
I mean, I don't know how many Democrats voted for Nikki Haley or, you know, how many Republicans just don't like Trump.
But I think there was a ballot initiative that said that it was for the Republican primary.
So it was a ballot initiative put in by Republicans that said, You know, should voters be able to register for their, you know, party to vote in?
And I voted yes for that because I don't want Democrats voting in Republican elections and telling me who my candidate's gonna be.
owen shroyer
Well, you know, if there was ever a debate for that, this is, I think, the reason why people would argue like what you're arguing here, that you shouldn't be able to vote against party lines because it allows the other party to come in and potentially screw with your own party's primary.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
And briefly, if I can mention the Nikki Haley speech.
She did congratulate Donald Trump for his victory last night, and then she proceeded to, you know, tear him down.
But she said, you know, 40% isn't 50%, but it's also not a small number.
And she then proceeded to say why she was staying in the race.
She said she felt like it was her duty to continue representing people who want an alternative.
And as I was listening to her, I said, you know, that sounds all fine and good.
And it sounds like you're trying to make this honorable choice or whatever.
But at the same time, I've also seen all the compilation videos where No, she's a total phony.
owen shroyer
She's a total and complete phony.
She's now the Kamala Harris of the Republican Party.
She's done this to herself.
I mean, I'll ask you a basic question.
What is Nikki Haley running on?
What is the policy that she's running on?
What separates her from Trump politically?
unidentified
I honestly don't know.
owen shroyer
Exactly.
And I'm not trying to set you up to look bad.
That's the point.
She's not.
She doesn't have a policy.
She doesn't have anything she's running on other than she's not Trump.
That's all she's running on.
And hey, she's right.
Yeah, we want to give Republican voters another option.
That's what the primaries are for.
And you haven't won one!
unidentified
Not one.
She's behind by like five.
owen shroyer
She's dying!
Okay, so now you ask the question.
And Chris, I thank you for the call.
But we know the answer.
Why is Nikki Haley really staying around?
Why does she give these ridiculous speeches?
Her whole strategy is, I'm going to be here when they take Trump out.
That's her disgusting strategy.
That's what it is.
That's why she doesn't have a policy.
She's not running on any policy.
She won't even commit to being anti-Trump.
So her whole strategy is just stay here and lose every race and then hope that they take Trump out.
That's her strategy.
And it is very disingenuous.
It is not... It's bad sportsmanship, you may call it.
Let's take another call here.
Let's go to Jay in Mississippi.
Jay, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
jay in indiana
Good afternoon.
owen shroyer
Afternoon, Jay.
jay in indiana
I watched a rebroadcast of Alex with Jake the Trucker, and I'm a truck driver, and I can tell you that I just wanted to say that I'm not going to New York City anytime soon.
And as for the Donald Trump, I tried to catch his victory speech there.
And every one of the stations that had it, they were talking over him.
You couldn't hear anything, you know?
owen shroyer
Yeah, I kind of did the same thing, though.
But it's okay for you to... I get a pass?
jay in indiana
I get a pass on that?
You get a pass.
It's okay for you to, you know.
owen shroyer
I get a pass?
unidentified
Huh?
owen shroyer
I get a pass on that?
jay in indiana
You get a pass.
owen shroyer
Okay, all right.
jay in indiana
And then as for, you know, the products there, of course, I love the Turbo Force.
unidentified
Yeah, you're a truck driver.
owen shroyer
So when you're about to have like a 10-hour or 12-hour day on the road, you drink TurboForce?
jay in indiana
Oh, yeah.
Well, you know, not every day.
Like today I didn't because I got a 34-hour reset, so I'm good.
And I'm basically just sitting until tonight to deliver late night.
unidentified
But anyways... Not to New York?
jay in indiana
No, not to New York.
Definitely not.
One other thing that I really like, I think it was either you or Alex put that El Salvadorian president there, speaking at CPAC there.
I like that guy.
owen shroyer
Yeah, Naeem Bukele, he might be the best world leader around right now.
Alex aired that on his show on Friday.
jay in indiana
Yeah, I think we should try to grab him and bring him over here and run this country.
owen shroyer
How about we just annex, how about we annex El Salvador and then say, okay, we've taken over your country, but how about you're the president now?
jay in indiana
Yeah, that's a good idea.
owen shroyer
I'm full of them, man.
I give this advice for free.
jay in indiana
Yeah, they do everything else here, so.
But anyways, Owen, good to have you on the air.
I appreciate you being there.
owen shroyer
Thank you for calling, and thank you for mentioning Turbo Force Plus and how much you enjoy that.
We really appreciate that.
It's the audience buying the products at Infowarsstore.com that makes this possible, so we are grateful for that.
You are our sponsors.
And folks, there's a reason why we have a trucker call-in show here.
I mean, we take truckers' calls all the time.
Of course, they're driving on the road.
They like to talk radio.
And there's a reason why they love Turbo Force Plus.
It really is 10 hours of clean energy in one scoop.
Believe me.
Now, quickly, just to comment on the Bukele situation.
What Bukele has really done, I think, which is the most important, and it's a fair counterpoint to say, oh well, El Salvador's a small country, it's easier to do that there.
Okay, fair point.
But, but, I believe what Bukele has shown It's a lot easier for the mainstream media to lie about what goes on in the Eastern Hemisphere and what goes on in Russia and everywhere else.
It's a little harder with El Salvador.
And what Bukele has done is he's proven that it's possible to clean up your streets.
You just have to have the will to do it.
He's proven that it's possible to arrest violent, dangerous criminals and end street crime.
And he's taken where street crime and violent criminals were one of the highest issues in El Salvador.
It was one of the most violent places on the streets and he's basically cleaned it up in a few short years.
So it is possible if you have the will.
I also think he's shown that it's probably going to take young leadership To engage in something like this.
It's going to take young leadership, fresh ideas, and a fresh commitment to these things.
And have no fear.
To speak your mind, to tell it like it is, and to do the right thing.
I think that Bukele has really proved that point.
While it is a much smaller nation, I think it's scalable.
Alright, let's take another call.
Let's go to a Michigan voter.
He goes by Michigan Voter.
I guess he's in Michigan.
Michigan Voter, go ahead.
unidentified
Hey, Owen.
I wanted to talk about how Nikki represents the NATO-UN alliance and how that's all built on addiction.
And what they did is, you know, through the years, grabbed all the poppy fields and all that stuff.
The whole economy is built on the sex drug culture, and basically, that's the same reason why they're pushing the sex early in the school.
owen shroyer
Well, I'm a little confused.
I'm sorry, you're throwing a bunch of different issues at me.
The poppy fields was mostly the Afghanistan issue, and then that's where most of those prescription drug ingredients were coming from, and then we had the opioid epidemic.
That was in Afghanistan.
NATO, I don't really know how NATO ties into that, other than the U.S.
is Is basically paying for NATO and engaging in this stuff in the Middle East.
By the way, they're trying to make a new push for Ukraine to join NATO.
That's a complete disaster.
And then the gender bending stuff and the sexualization of kids.
I mean, I get that it's all part of this globalist agenda, but you're kind of just throwing a bunch of different issues at me.
unidentified
It's sex addiction.
Then they introduced the computers and addiction, and they keep building up addiction behavior.
And this is the same reason they basically are grabbing all the drug markets and addiction care and everything and all the money wrapped up in it.
And then they're going to bring in NATO, the basically used energy, To deplete all the other Five Eyes and get them on a structure where they'll be dependent on building military equipment and all the Five Eyes.
And so they'll have all the markets and the bio stuff all wrapped up, monitoring people and their addictions and consumption and food and water consumption.
owen shroyer
Well, that's their final goal.
The globalists want total control over your food, 100%, and then your money after that as well.
I mean, that's how they conquer the world.
But look, if Ukraine joins NATO, that's probably a line in the sand for Russia.
I don't know what happens next.
It's just a it's a horrible concept.
NATO is useless.
Other than a war machine.
NATO is completely useless other than a money laundering war machine.
And we have to pay for the whole thing.
And it's always been this this anvil that they've tried to hold over Russia's head geopolitically.
And even when Russia was like, hey, we'll join NATO.
There's no purpose for NATO.
We're not communists.
We're not trying to invade.
We're with you guys now.
And then NATO pulled the rug out from under him and said, nope, we want this cold war to continue.
And then you have this Cold War policy continuing that's completely useless.
And now they're saying Ukraine's gonna join NATO, which is just asking for more war.
It's disgusting.
NATO should be completely abolished.
Or, at the very least, if the United States wanted to do anything to save the world, they should just stop funding NATO and just pull out.
Alright, thanks for the call.
Let's go to William in Missouri.
William, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Can you hear me?
owen shroyer
Yes.
unidentified
Okay.
Love watching the show.
My dad's probably watching it right now, but my big question to you right now is, what should the 20, 27-year-old be thinking right now?
Because I'm thinking right now, most of the Republican Party is flopping right now.
And I think that's the point.
owen shroyer
Wait, hold on a second.
You're talking about the younger voters, I'm assuming you're in this voter range, but what do you mean the Republican Party is flopping?
unidentified
Most of it is flopping, yes.
I think we should start getting all of the squish.
Oh, we're going to try and compromise with the Democrats?
No.
No.
We need more rock-ribbed people who are going to have principles.
owen shroyer
I think I get where you're going with this.
I would say, let me try to hone in on this a little bit more.
If you're a young conservative in college, I would start getting involved in whatever political groups your college has to offer.
Young Republicans, college Republicans, college conservatives.
Whatever political groups your college has to offer, I would start getting involved with that.
Or starting one yourself, and then reaching out and recruiting and finding other conservatives.
Because when you have these things, you can put pressure on representatives, and you can change the political culture of a party when they see these things.
And then you can start controlling the messaging and the narratives.
So that's how you can have an impact.
You know, culturally, that's kind of a different story.
That's each to his own.
And then, I guess, once you're out of college, I mean, I don't know, start talking to your friends, because that's usually when people lean liberal, Democrat voters, and maybe just slowly kind of pepper your friends when these conversations come up, like, hey, you like these taxes?
Like, no, they suck.
Hey, you see your grocery bill going up?
Yeah, what's up with that?
And you start telling them, oh, this is Democrat Party policy.
This is what they're doing.
And so, I mean, that's, I guess, what I would be doing.
unidentified
Yeah.
That's what I try to do with my friends.
I try to, anytime they say something absurd that one of the liberals say, I try and break it apart.
Be like, you really like this?
You really like paying this much for groceries?
Really?
Come on.
We could have better.
We could have better.
You just need to open your eyes.
Yeah.
owen shroyer
Yeah, I mean, that's what I would be doing.
That's what I would be doing.
It seems like you have good instincts as far as that's concerned.
And really, that's what a lot of this is.
It's about having the will, having the instincts, and then just taking the shot and just doing it.
But it sounds like you have the instincts.
And I always get that call.
What can I do?
What can I do?
Well, if you're asking the question, you're on the right step.
You're on the right path.
But really, the answer is to be answered by yourself.
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But until then, we go back to the phone lines and let's go to Edward in El Paso.
Edward, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hey, how's it going up there, Owen?
owen shroyer
Hey, good.
unidentified
Grad, grad.
I bet you had a ball in jail.
owen shroyer
Well, you know, they kept me in confinement for almost four straight weeks.
And after that, it was like a whole new world.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
I figured they would probably because, you know, they know who you are and get to attack pretty easy there.
But anyway, Good luck on that.
I'm glad you got through that whole nonsense.
owen shroyer
Well, I'll tell you, it makes you appreciate freedom that much more.
It gave me an insider view into just how corrupt everything is.
unidentified
I hope the rest of the American people see what's going on because the stuff they're doing to Trump is just not even gonna go, man.
owen shroyer
Well, it's pretty clear that they don't want him to run and they're gonna engage in all type of illegal activity to stop him.
unidentified
But they're violating our Bill of Rights.
They're violating our Constitution.
I mean, the people, I don't see anybody protesting saying, hey man, you know, I live here four miles from the border wall and it's nonsense what's going on and why we're taking it.
I don't know what it's going to take to wake these people up and get it clear to them that this is not, this is scary stuff that they're doing because they're changing our culture by changing our law.
Change in our, you know, freedom of, you know, our sovereignty.
I mean, don't people see what they're doing?
owen shroyer
Here's the problem.
Well, there's a bunch of problems.
First of all, the mainstream media always covers it all up.
And then the late night talk shows make it like it's some sort of a joke.
So still the average, I don't know if it's fair to say the average American, but, but You know, the American that's not really politically informed or involved still does not understand what you're talking about.
They don't understand the threats, they don't understand how dangerous it really is.
They just don't.
They think it's all a joke and they think it's all a game.
Now here's the issue we have politically with the Republican Party, generally speaking.
And you have to credit the CIA because they know what they're doing.
They've done a really great job weaponizing this phrase of conspiracy theorist.
And so now every Republican is so scared to be called a conspiracy theorist.
What might that do to their strong and stellar prestigious reputation?
Well, I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist.
It's kind of like the other day, you know, some people thought Laura Ingraham did a great job at that town hall.
I think Trump did a great job.
I think Laura Ingraham was very amateur, to be quite frank.
But she gets into Trump, she says, well, what about all these people that are afraid you're gonna get in there and have retribution?
And what about all these people that think you're gonna get in there and get revenge?
And it's just like, no, this isn't about revenge.
This isn't about retribution.
This is about justice.
What do you mean revenge, retribution?
This is about justice.
All these people going after Donald Trump, they're the criminals.
That's not revenge to put them in defense.
That's not revenge to charge them with crimes and throw them in jail.
They're the criminals!
But see, that whole thing is, oh, but that's, oh, these are conspiracy theories.
It's a conspiracy theory to say they're illegally going after Trump.
It's a conspiracy theory to say it's about the judge or about this guy or about the prosecutor.
No, it's not!
Those are the facts!
They're the criminals!
Trump is the one that had fraud committed against him.
But see, that's the problem with the Republican establishment still.
Oh, I don't want to lean into that.
That's a conspiracy theory.
Oh, we don't want to have revenge.
That's just mean and nasty.
We don't want that to happen.
It's not revenge.
It's justice.
It's not a conspiracy theory.
It's reality.
And so that's part of the problem that we have with these Republican establishment types, is that they're still afraid of political correctness, and they're still afraid of being labeled a conspiracy theorist.
And look, if that's what you're afraid of, And not what they can do to Donald Trump, they can do to you.
If that's what you're afraid of, then you're beyond just a gigantic pussy.
You're an idiot.
Edward, I'm sorry, go ahead.
unidentified
Yeah, I'm just wondering, like the older gentleman said, I mean, you get somebody in there, you get Trump in there, I really don't want to see Haley in there, and I think Vimeswami was a scam job.
I think Vimeswami, he, I don't know, there's something about him that's...
Rubbing me the wrong way.
I want to see an American speak this way.
How come there's no American with the balls to say the things that Vimeswami is standing up there saying?
Our sovereignty's in dire straits, man.
You got globalists.
They're not playing.
This stuff, I don't want my children indoctrinated.
I don't want my country turned into a third world hellhole.
I don't want to, you know, have to worry about what I have to say.
I have to watch where I go, what I do.
This is ridiculous what's going on.
And these people, the Democrats should never be in power of anything ever again.
COVID was the end for them.
They push this nonsense.
They push these masks.
They push these mandates.
They push these Well, Biden certainly should be.
The open borders certainly should be.
be the end for the Democrat Party.
This should be the death blow for them.
They are the case.
owen shroyer
Well, Biden certainly should be.
The open borders certainly should be.
The political persecution certainly should be.
unidentified
But Obama's running the show, man.
I mean, Obama and Soros, they're running the show.
I mean, Obama's a coward.
Why do you think he's using a white old man to do all his dirty work?
All this stuff is the transformational stuff he was talking about when he first came in.
But that coward went and showed the black folk especially what a fraud he was.
Mr. Noble Peace Prize, going out and killing people with drones and all this other Murderous stuff that he's behind.
Now he's going to run the show like Mr. Puppet Man, and everybody's just showing, oh, F. Biden, F. Biden.
Hey, how about F all of them?
The Uniparty, all of them.
And Lindsey Graham.
Somebody needs, he needs to go.
Mitch McConnell, goodbye Mr. China.
Goodbye all of the... There's only maybe five, I can probably count maybe five, maybe ten Republicans that I would say I would actually let them get a pass and stay.
The rest of them need to go, and the Democrats, all of them.
owen shroyer
Well, this is the chasm, as I see it, between what I call the new right and the old right.
I don't have time to break that down now, but that's what we're getting into here.
But I'm going to be leaning into that, talking a lot about that, because it needs to be understood.
Because a lot of people feel the same way you do, Edward, but there is a solution.
Let's go to Tommy in Mississippi.
Tommy, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hey Owen, nice to meet you.
I'm actually driving back to CPAC right now, so I wanted to talk about the speech there that Trump gave.
owen shroyer
Yep.
unidentified
But I was also at January 6th, and I'd like to talk to you about what happened with Rosenblum and Sparta.
owen shroyer
You're breaking up.
What was that?
unidentified
I'd also like to talk about January 6th, and I witnessed the murder of Roseanne Boylan by D.C.
Metro cop Lila Morris.
owen shroyer
Yeah, that's right.
They killed Ashley Babbitt.
They killed Roseanne Boylan.
I think a couple others ended up dying from police brutality that day.
The Democrats hate police on every single day of the year, except there's one day they love the police.
That's January 6th.
So the police can kill anybody they want, as long as they're a Trump supporter on January 6th.
But outside of that, they hate them.
unidentified
That's right.
So I actually lived with Ashley Babbitt's mother in D.C.
for a year, doing the vigil with the guys inside the Gulag there.
So I talked to a lot of the guys and stuff, and you're absolutely right.
But real quick, CPAC Trump gave a really, really great speech, and like you said, he was really funny, too.
But I also wanted to say the environment, the atmosphere inside the speech was almost like a celebration, almost like a homecoming, almost.
Because, you know, people were having fun.
So that was good to see that kind of energy.
And they did have a lot of young kids there and everything.
But, uh, so that was great.
But, uh, I do.
So what I do know, and since this happened on January 6th, if you don't mind me explaining briefly, well, at 427, the D.C.
Metro College pushed everybody out of the tunnel.
And Rosalind Bowen is pushed into me, and we all fall down.
And she's already unconscious, and she's bleeding from the nose and the mouth.
And there's video footage out there, Tommy, and we've aired this footage as well.
owen shroyer
Yeah, and there's video footage out there, Tommy, and we've aired this footage as well.
I don't want to get deep into a January 6th discussion because I want to focus on the primary and Trump's speeches.
But no, there's no doubt.
about.
Ashley Babbitt was unjustly killed.
Roseanne Boylan was unjustly killed.
And it was a setup.
It was a setup from the very beginning.
And it just shows the hypocrisy of the liberal left that hates police.
But then when they actually kill unarmed civilians at a protest, then they celebrate it as long as it's their Hi, Owen.
I'm so glad you're out of the gulag.
There's so many different angles to that.
Tommy, I thank you for the call and keep up the great work and support of those men that are unjustly prisoned and being tortured right now.
Let's go to Bob in Utah.
Bob, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hi, Owen.
Hi.
I'm so glad you're out of the gulag.
I hope you were taking notes.
If anyone was cruel or unjust to you, I want them sued out of their socks.
owen shroyer
Thank you.
Well, the whole system was cruel and unjust to me, and we're taking our case to the Supreme Court.
It's not cheap.
I'll tell you that.
DefendOwen.com.
You realize how corrupt the whole system is?
Trump has to pay half a billion dollars just to appeal.
And so it's the same crap that we've been going through in my case.
The whole thing is so corrupted, it's unreal.
unidentified
Let's follow Nikki's money.
owen shroyer
Well yeah, it was from Democrat donors.
unidentified
Well, let's go to Obama and Biden sending pallets of cash to Iran.
owen shroyer
Well yeah, they found out that a lot of these Hamas and Hezbollah weapons and funding came directly from Biden.
unidentified
You know what an end user certificate is for weapons?
owen shroyer
Yeah, go ahead.
unidentified
And user certificate for military grade weapons.
It's international law.
I mean, these things are going everywhere.
owen shroyer
Well, they admitted, well they don't have any, not for the weapons in Ukraine, Bob.
They admitted that most of the money going into Ukraine is getting stolen and laundered.
They admitted it!
They're not even hiding it!
Same thing with the weapons.
Folks, they're rearming and funding all the proxy groups in the Middle East through Ukraine.
Let me just explain something.
Bob, thank you for the call.
Let's just explain this.
Why is Ukraine so important?
Why is Ukraine so important?
Do they really do anything for us as far as foreign policy?
unidentified
No.
owen shroyer
Other than this hedge against Russia.
Other than this vessel state to keep Russia in check as our boogeyman.
What does Ukraine actually do for the United States of America?
What value is Ukraine to the average American?
There is none.
It's a vessel state of the deep state and the military-industrial complex.
They run human trafficking through Ukraine.
They run weapons and money laundering through Ukraine.
That's its value.
That's why they're obsessed with Ukraine.
That's why they're in there every day, running the show.
Now, when Trump was president, he cut off these proxy groups.
He cut off the money and he cut off the weapons.
So they dried up for four years.
That's why there was mostly peace in the Middle East.
That's why Vladimir Putin goes on with Tucker Carlson and says, if you want peace, stop sending weapons and money into these wars.
It's all backed by the Western military-industrial complex.
We fund it.
And we arm it.
And they don't even hide it.
And then they vote in Congress and they say, we're not allowed to keep track of the weapons, we're not allowed to keep track of the money, and then years later they write the headlines, mainstream news, they say all the money and weapons going into Ukraine is being stolen, we don't know where it is, so send more money and weapons.
And then what happens?
All the proxy groups in the Middle East resurge.
And recruit, and they have money again, and they have weapons again, because it all came out of Ukraine.
Ukraine is the vessel state for the military-industrial complex into the Middle East.
Ukraine is the rat hole where the military-industrial complex launders money and weapons to their proxy groups.
That's why Ukraine is so important.
That's why they hated Tucker Carlson for interviewing Vladimir Putin, because he told that truth.
That is the truth.
That is not anti-American, that is pro-American to say, stop this.
Let's take another call.
Andrew in New Jersey.
You're on the air, go ahead.
andrew in new jersey
Alright, it's great you're out of the gulag and they tortured you with the Colby light.
Throw them the whole David Colby light.
I want my Colby light.
owen shroyer
No, I would have enjoyed that.
andrew in new jersey
The lady's cool.
I love that doctor.
She's a hero.
I just want to say with Trump, and I might write a script and mail it to you guys, too.
Maybe Alex can get it, too.
Mistakes that he makes, he's doing better, but he talked to the black conservatives, and he talked about him unjustly incarcerated, and that's similar to injustice that went against African Americans.
Which is true, but he fails every time to point out that.
Joe Biden was the co-author of the 1994 crime bill, which incarcerated usually more black people with crack cocaine, disproportionately, from powder.
So Biden actually authored it, and then in one of the debates, I'm laughing, in the primaries, Biden's like, well, we've been working for years to get it fair, but you're the one who wrote it, so you're working against your own bill.
And second, so he's not pointing out that it was a Democrat Biden.
And who wrote it, and a Democrat, Bill Clinton, who signed it, and Trump reformed those sentencing laws.
So he's missing out when he leaves that out.
And also school choice.
He talked about Boeing and he got a better deal for the Air Force One, better than Obama did.
He said, who do you want, the white guy president or the black guy?
The white guy got the better deal.
That's not the example.
He should talk about school choice.
And say Obama gets money from the teachers union, Biden gets money from the teachers union, they block school choice, while Obama sends his kids to the finest prep schools in the country, and he blocks inner city kids from going to the Catholic school like you went to the good Catholic school, and he blocks that.
And I'll just end with a personal example.
When I went to high school, I was dyslexic in a public school.
And I saw the racism towards the black kids by the Democrat school system, because there were more black students in the lower level classes.
And in those classes, we really, for the most part, didn't learn anything.
It just got passed through.
So that's on the Democrats, and they blocked school choice, and it's institutionalized racism.
Trump got the executive, you know, federal school choice.
So I'll write the scripts, but I'll go over it with you more.
But he's missing out on these.
He touches on it, but he doesn't go into it enough.
owen shroyer
Well, I mean, you can Monday morning quarterback any political speech.
I do hear him talk about these issues.
Here's the problem.
Whether he talks about it or not, is it reaching the audience it needs to reach?
Now he's basically verbally committed to going and doing rallies in New York City.
In the Bronx, in Queens, in Brooklyn.
He definitely needs to do that.
I mean, if I'm looking at this strategically, I don't know.
I mean, this might sound crazy.
I think Trump could win New York.
I think Trump could win New York with voters in New York City, but he has to go there and he has to get the message to them.
I don't know what you do about Pennsylvania.
The voter fraud in Philadelphia is so heavy.
I mean, it really almost doesn't even matter.
I mean, whatever number Trump is up by at 3 a.m.
in the morning, the exact amount of votes will come in for the Democrat to beat him.
So, I mean, that's a whole other issue.
Otherwise, I'd say go into Philadelphia.
But he did rally in Philadelphia.
But I would go into New York and I would pitch that to the voters.
I would go into downtown Chicago.
I would pitch that to the voters.
Because it's not just the message, it's does the message reach Who it needs to reach.
Andrew, thank you for the call.
Let's go to Mr. Process in Wisconsin.
Mr. Process, you're on the air.
unidentified
Go ahead.
icarus in wisconsin
Hey, Big O. I think what's going on with Trump these past couple days, like part of his, like, victory process, you know, like he's, like, dragging everybody to, like, his will and his destiny.
And, like, kind of like in Fight Club, like when Tyler Durden's, like, You know, dragging the narrator, kicking and screaming.
And, like, uh, I think it's important to know, like, he doesn't bring it up anymore, but he was originally, like, anti-corona.
Like, didn't want all the lockdowns and stuff.
owen shroyer
No, that's right.
His original instincts.
He got slammed in the media.
He said, oh, it's just the flu.
And then they slammed him in the media.
And, and, and unfortunately, he, he, he lost big on that issue.
That was his biggest loss.
And then the vaccines.
That's, I mean, that's his big flaw.
icarus in wisconsin
Well, I think his hand was forced.
The pressure probably was huge.
He was getting it from all angles.
And then lastly, since you were involved, did we ever get a confirmed number of how many civilians were injured and killed on January 6th?
owen shroyer
You know, I've heard mixed numbers, and it's all like fog of war.
We know at least two individuals, we mentioned them earlier, Roseanne Boyland and Ashley Babbitt, 100%.
And then I think there were other couple people that either died later via their injuries, but it's, I mean, we could get the documentary filmmakers on, we've done it before, but it's just, it's very fog of war at this point.
But the point is that the people that died on January 6th were all Trump supporters, not police officers like the Democrats lie about.
icarus in wisconsin
Yeah, and I don't know if you saw his speech before his win.
He keeps bringing up his uncle, the one that was involved with Nikola Tesla and stuff.
John Trump?
max in wisconsin
Yeah, I remember you telling me about that book with Barron Trump in it and everything.
owen shroyer
That's just crazy.
icarus in wisconsin
I don't know, I'm kind of feeling like 2016 vibes, just from my point of view.
You know, but like way worse now because like All the, like, chopping off dicks and, like, wars and stuff and Palestinian paragliders and, you know, nuclear war with Russia.
owen shroyer
With the open border as well.
Don't forget about that.
max in wisconsin
Yeah.
icarus in wisconsin
It's like a total cluster.
But anyway, I'll let you get to other callers, Owen.
owen shroyer
Thank you.
Barron Trump's Marvelous Underground Journey.
That wasn't the only book written by, um, Lockwood.
What was the name of the author or something?
Lockwood?
It's actually a pretty good book.
Ingersoll Lockwood.
Yeah, you want to dive down a rabbit hole if you believe in time travel?
Let's just stop right there.
John Trump, Nikola Tesla, secret energy, time travel?
Let's take another call here.
Speaking of the open border, Laura Loomer has been down there covering it.
Bill wants to call in and talk about that from Wisconsin.
Bill, you're on the air.
unidentified
Go ahead.
Thanks for taking my call, Owen.
Appreciate it.
We've got you live, Owen, on the Loomer Fan Club Rumble right now, just as a side note.
But what I want to do, you want to talk about President Trump, and we can't talk about President Trump without talking about Laura Loomer.
As you know, I think Laura Loomer is a top-level advisor to President Trump now, and I think this trip that Laura took down to the Darien Gap is going to help President Trump Get a handle on the real, uh, what's really going on down there at the border.
And Laura right now is pointing out HIAS Refugees.
Have you heard about that group yet?
owen shroyer
Oh, yes.
unidentified
So HIAS is the International Jewish Humanitarian Organization that stands for a world in which refugees find welcome, safety, and opportunity.
owen shroyer
Which is of course ironic because they want nothing to do with Palestinians.
unidentified
I know if you could tell a little bit with my tone it's such a joke.
owen shroyer
I don't see Israel taking in any of the illegal immigrants.
I don't see their borders being wide open.
I don't see highest funding illegal immigrants into Israel.
Do you see that happening?
Am I missing that?
Is that happening?
unidentified
No, because what they did is they omitted a couple words at the end.
It should read like this, for a world in which refugees find welcome, safety, and opportunity in your country, not ours.
That's exactly what it is.
Yeah, it's pretty pathetic.
But I'll tell you what, I've seen Laura get excited about different topics.
This one, Owen, has really got her Like, with it.
She's got some breaking news.
Here's what she said.
I'll let you, I just want to make this one point.
Laura just tweeted out breaking news.
I'm going to dedicate myself to taking down Hayek and anyone who supports them.
Uber hiring murderous illegal aliens and sponsoring Hayek's refugees as Hayek continues to give illegal aliens maps with detailed instructions on how to enter the U.S.
illegally.
After that, it was reported that Jose Antonio Ibarra, the suspect who has been charged in the killing of nursing student Lincoln Riley, is a Venezuelan national who illegally entered El Paso, Texas in September.
That's right.
2022.
owen shroyer
That's right.
That was a big story.
Let me just clarify, for those wondering, there was a big story about a Georgia, was she a nursing student?
I don't remember exactly.
She was a college student.
She disappeared.
It turns out she was murdered by an illegal immigrant.
unidentified
You know, of course, beautiful, white, you know.
Side note.
No, but after witnessing Hyass's treasonous behavior in the Darien Gap in Panama, Laura goes on to say, and after hearing the news and Lake and Riley while I was in Panama, witnessing thousands of Venezuelan illegals, just like her killer, tell me how they planned to cross into the U.S.
illegally, I immediately looked at Hyass's financials and discovered that Uber is a corporate sponsor for Hyatt.
Given that Ibarra is an illegal alien from Venezuela, there is a strong likelihood that he crossed over the Darien Gap as a transit route before entering the US.
So I don't want to take all your time, Owen, but I can go on, but I'm telling you, everybody follow Laura, she is really hot on this.
And I'll tell you what, this is the hot topic for President Trump right now.
I'm even getting text messages from, you know, kind of medium Trump people, sending me the illegal alien... And think about how pathetic the Republicans are, and thank you for the call.
owen shroyer
Think about how pathetic the Republicans are that Joe Biden is facilitating the largest invasion in the history of the world, and that's what this is.
It's the largest invasion in the history of the world.
It's happening at our southern border right now.
And think about that.
It's the largest invasion in the history of the world.
And the Republicans are too cowardly to even do anything about it.
They won't even barely call it out.
I mean, this should be issue number one by far, and you have them talking about Ukraine and Israel and all this other BS.
And we have the largest invasion in the history of the world happening in our southern border right now.
And you look at these people coming in, folks.
You think that woman that was just filmed by Laura Loomer coming in here, you think she's gonna add to the American civilization?
No, she's gonna suck off of it.
And I'm not trying to be rude.
I mean, poor her, bless her heart.
But she's a fat, unhealthy person that's going to come here and require $100,000 a year just to exist with the health care bills.
And you're going to pay for all of it.
And the Republicans are too cowardly to even call it out for what it is or address it legally and congressionally.
It's pathetic.
It's pathetic.
The largest invasion in the history of the world is going on at our southern border right now.
Honestly.
Trump talks about having the biggest deportation thing of all time?
Yeah.
I mean, I would say 10 million need to be deported.
If not 20.
If you want to come in here legally, then make your case for being an immigrant.
That's one thing.
But I would say we need probably 20 million illegal immigrants deported.
Maybe even 30.
So that's that.
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Now, when we come back, this interview is a little longer than the segment, so the full interview is on Band.Video on the War Room page.
It's on Band.Video, the full interview.
But I sit down with, he's known as the Predator Poacher.
He's had hundreds of arrests of pedophiles and child predators with his show.
And so I sat down with him for a 30 minute interview.
By the way, this is a new interview series we're launching exclusively at InfoWars.com and Banned.Video.
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Taking a new angle to all of InfoWars content.
Expanding in the face of the attacks and the censorship.
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It'll cut a little short, but you can watch the entire interview at Bandai video on the War Room channel.
So myself and Alex Rosen debut next.
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If your children have access to the internet or a cell phone, you might be surprised who has access to them.
One individual who has exposed some of the darker corners of this internet phenomenon of adults looking for children to sexually exploit online is Alex Rosen from Predator Poachers.
And he joins me now to talk about what it's like to expose child predators on the internet looking for access to your children.
Alex, thank you for joining me today.
alex rosen
Thanks for having me.
owen shroyer
Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but you actually just came here from San Antonio, where you busted another child predator.
alex rosen
Yes, we are very, very busy.
We're here in Austin right now.
Tomorrow, we're going to be in Huntsville, Alabama, hopefully getting two people.
So, yeah, we get around.
owen shroyer
So, no days off for you.
Even before you came in for this interview, you said, I'm going to bust one more.
alex rosen
Yes.
owen shroyer
Is this like, is there an adrenaline rush for you?
Are you almost, dare I say, addicted to exposing and catching these people?
alex rosen
I would say it's an addiction.
It kind of is like a My Strange Addiction thing except the addiction is like productive.
I have a great time doing it and the reason for that being is one I mean it's just fun to you know mentally screw with people that have been screwed with children for God knows how long and two it's a really fulfilling feeling knowing that what we're doing is making a difference.
I mean the amount the sheer amount of kids That I know aren't in the hands of these child predators because of our efforts, me and the teams.
It's a really good feeling to know, and it's nice to see that a difference is being made.
owen shroyer
Well, that's a whole other issue of getting results and arrests, and I do want to get to that.
But how much of this are you able to control or schedule?
Like, did you know you were going to bust this guy today, or did the opportunity present itself and you said, hey, let's do this before we travel?
alex rosen
Uh, very rarely do we have like a, let's just wait and see what we get.
Um, when we make these trips across the country, we do, uh, have a schedule.
So this guy was on the list today.
Obviously, they don't know they're on the list, so we kind of have to run on predator time.
So, um, in this case, he wasn't home when we went to go knock, so I had to call him as like a mailman and say, hey, I got a package for you.
So he came to the house and that's when we, uh, interrogated him.
owen shroyer
And that's usually a tactic you use is with mail, right?
That was a tactic that I've seen you use before.
Is that one that they just think, oh I'm getting some mail and so they'll answer, they'll tell you whether they're home or not?
alex rosen
Yeah, everybody's excited about a package, even like grown men trying to prey on kids.
So yeah, they fall for it too.
owen shroyer
Well and you mentioned here from your video earlier today that law enforcement is a hit or miss.
You made a direct reference to it being in San Antonio.
So is it kind of a jurisdictional thing or just in general you never know if police are actually going to apprehend the predators you catch?
alex rosen
It's 100% a jurisdictional thing.
Like tomorrow, when we're going to be in Huntsville, I'm positive these people aren't going to get arrested.
We have 7 arrests in Huntsville, Alabama alone.
We're 7 for 7 there.
7 catches, 7 arrests.
But in San Antonio, in Bexar County, it's really a toss-up.
So I have to go to court in 2 weeks in Bexar County for a middle school teacher we caught with tons of child porn.
A teacher?
Yeah.
Yeah, a middle school teacher.
owen shroyer
Well, the individual you caught today was an engineer.
And I think you've maybe caught some engineers before.
alex rosen
Oh, I'm sure.
owen shroyer
Well, I find that strange because people would think, you know, an engineer that requires a higher degree, some sort of a level of, you know, commitment to a career and to studying, and then you deal with a teacher as well.
I mean, is there any pattern as far as career paths?
Because normally you'd think these are just deranged people, maybe some mental issues, they stay at home all day.
But I mean, an engineer earlier today, a middle school teacher earlier this year in San Antonio?
alex rosen
Yes, we get everybody from, yeah, just mentally deranged people that you would call special needs, all the way up to teachers and engineers.
Yeah, the teacher earlier this year, he was in Converse, Texas, but the same county as San Antonio, it's just a suburb, and he got arrested on child pornography and online solicitation of a minor, which is him trying to go after a fake 14-year-old boy.
owen shroyer
How many individuals have you caught in, I mean, I would just say childhood education, but there's other access, there's other jobs that give you access to children as well, other than education.
Is that a pattern that you notice?
alex rosen
Um, I don't really, when it comes to jobs, I don't really notice too many patterns with it.
This really doesn't have a lot of, I mean, yeah, sure, they definitely want to be around children, but they don't have to be, their job doesn't really neglect them being around children.
If they want to be, they can be, whether it's stepkids, their own kids, or whatever, but I think the biggest job we've caught is probably truck drivers.
owen shroyer
Well, mentioning their own kids, you did catch an individual earlier this month.
Child predator confesses to molesting and creating child porn of his own five-year-old daughter.
Was this one of the most intense exchanges you've had?
alex rosen
Yes, absolutely.
His name was Kevin Cook.
He's currently in Hamilton County, Iowa Jail, and he ended up confessing to us that he produced child pornography of his own daughter and was molesting her, and he invited our decoy over to go play with his daughter.
We're in this case, we're posing as like a pedophile online, and he messages us, asks if we're close to Iowa, and we're like, yeah, we're close to Iowa, and he invites us over to go.
He's like, I'm doing this to my kid.
Do you want to come over?
We're like, yeah, we'll come over.
And he invites us over on a Sunday.
We show up on that Friday before he has custody of her again.
And he tries to tell us that, oh, I was doing the same thing you're doing, trying to catch people.
And then I poke some holes in his story, and he ends up flipping and just basically spilling his guts that he's been doing this.
So he's facing up to 55 years now.
owen shroyer
So let me get this straight.
This man was sexually abusing his own children.
alex rosen
Correct.
owen shroyer
And invited what he thought was another predator over to engage in this?
alex rosen
Yes.
owen shroyer
Film this?
alex rosen
Yes.
He wanted to take it to the next level so at the moment he was only, I say only, only touching her.
He hasn't raped her yet and he's only taking photos but he hasn't, well that is producing child porn, but he hasn't produced any sexual videos of her, like him and her doing sexual acts together.
But he wanted to take that to the next level when he invited us over, and luckily we showed up before that could happen.
owen shroyer
It's an amazing exchange when you get him to admit all of this, and you've done this before, getting them to admit all of this on the spot, but have you ever ran into an individual that abuses his own children and films it?
alex rosen
His own children and films it?
Besides Kevin Cook?
I mean, I'm sure we have, but not with an admission.
We've had people that have admitted to abusing their own kids, but haven't admitted to filming it in the act.
owen shroyer
How much does this stuff haunt you?
You have to face these people.
alex rosen
Well, it doesn't haunt me because, yeah, obviously I don't want to hear about Kevin Cook's details about what he's doing to his daughter, but I also know if I listen to that, that means she's not going to get abused anymore.
So that doesn't haunt me.
It actually makes me, it actually is a better feeling that it's not going to happen anymore.
I look at the pot half full, you know what I mean?
Glass half full.
owen shroyer
Now when you go on, we'll say these sting operations, a lot of times you'll dress in clothing that people might say, well, that looks like children's clothing.
Is that part of the mind game?
alex rosen
Yeah, absolutely.
Like if I feel, if I roll up in a suit and tie, um, they're going to think that I'm there to get them in trouble and that I'm there as like, you know, an authority figure.
But if I just show up, dab them up and like, Hey man, yeah, I just want to have a conversation with you.
They just think of me as like a peer, and just peer-to-peer, let's just talk about it, and then they end up spilling, and yeah, it's definitely not child's play after I'm done with them.
owen shroyer
Well, you've probably, I mean, how many predators do you think you've exposed?
I mean, the number's in the hundreds.
Do you have a number, exactly how many?
alex rosen
I would say close to 600.
owen shroyer
And how many states?
alex rosen
We've done catches in 49 states, except for Alaska, and we have arrests in 44 of them.
owen shroyer
Would you say that these are better numbers than the federal government is producing as far as catching these predators?
alex rosen
Um, not in total numbers, but efficiency-wise, I would maybe say so.
owen shroyer
Now, when you go and you do a bust like this, how often is the individual either already in some probationary, you know, because they've already been busted, versus this is the first time they've ever been caught?
alex rosen
Uh, too often.
owen shroyer
So, um, I hope what... Meaning most of the time they've already been caught before you expose them?
alex rosen
No, not most of the time, but just often enough for me to say that it's happening too much.
So I'm going to bring up Jeffrey Rose.
He was in Las Vegas.
He's currently back in jail doing 20 to life.
But he was sentenced to life in prison for molesting a ton of kids.
He scored himself a retrial.
And while he's out on some type of bond or some type of promise to appear back in court for a retrial, like after 20 years, he messages our 9-year-old decoy.
His first message to us is, do you like child porn?
And obviously he got very sexual with who he thought was his 9-year-old girl.
Then we show up to his house.
And while he has an ankle monitor on, he confesses to us that he has over 50,000 images of child pornography.
So, yeah, that retrial never happened.
He ended up just taking a plea to 20 to life after he got caught.
owen shroyer
I learned...
When I was inside the system, how much child predators are actually protected by law enforcement.
It was shocking to me when I was on the inside.
If you're a child predator, you get a lot smaller sentence than somebody that gets caught even just dealing marijuana.
alex rosen
Oh, absolutely.
We had a guy, I think the sickest one we ever caught, his name's Clayton Tanner.
He didn't have the most victims, he was only 19, but if He went unchecked for 40 years.
I think he'd have dead bodies.
He brought a knife to go chop up an infant, and he only got three to eight years when he got convicted.
owen shroyer
And he admitted that he not just wanted to sexually abuse a child, but you're talking about maiming and potentially killing?
alex rosen
Yeah, he said he didn't want to murder, but obviously what he was gonna, like he did say he wanted to chop them, like basically cut them with a knife.
He brought the pocket knife, he gave me the knife, and he also wanted to desecrate with both urine and crap.
owen shroyer
And film this?
alex rosen
Uh, he didn't say anything about filming it, but I would assume he probably would have.
owen shroyer
And this is the type of content that gets out on the internet, and I want to get back to this, you know, and maybe we'll ask you what you think parents can do to avoid this, but you're one man.
You have a small crew, I guess, of one besides you, normally?
alex rosen
No, we got 15 people on the team.
owen shroyer
Okay, so you've expanded your enterprise.
That's good.
But all things considered, you're a small enterprise, low budget compared to what the federal government has, obviously.
And you consider your efficiency.
Why do you suppose that the U.S.
government aren't running operations like you, but instead trying to entrap innocent Americans?
alex rosen
Well, the FBI definitely has way, way, way, way, way too many sour grapes.
And, you know, you've heard stories about people in the FBI that were in sex crimes getting transferred to, like, political stuff, like what they got you for, which really was nothing.
But, I mean, the FBI agents we've dealt with, like, that have taken up our cases have been great.
They definitely care, but I think their hands are tied by, like, the D.C.
ones.
owen shroyer
What is a decoy?
You mentioned your decoy earlier.
Explain what that is.
alex rosen
A decoy is somebody that poses as something online.
So we usually decoy as a kid.
Sometimes we decoy as a pedo and see what happens.
owen shroyer
And this is relatively easy, that's why you do it?
alex rosen
Yes, it is very easy to find a child predator online.
The hard part is having to plan it, having to deal with it, and of course traveling for it.
But yes, finding one, anybody can do.
owen shroyer
And what are the avenues that you use so that parents can know, I need to either heavily monitor my child's actions on these platforms, or just outright nix it, make sure they're not there?
alex rosen
I mean, literally every single app from Roblox to Instagram to Facebook to Telegram.
I mean, they're crawling on every single app.
And if I were a parent, I mean, there's no perfect solution, but hand your kids a football or a basketball and just let them go play outside.
Let them be kids.
owen shroyer
Is the most high-profile bust you ever made a popular streamer, YouTube content creator, Edp445.
Was that the most high-profile bust you made?
alex rosen
Yeah, he was the most known guy, yes.
owen shroyer
And were you expecting that?
Was that a targeted thing?
Or it just happened when you busted this guy, you showed up and that was him?
alex rosen
Well, so we heard accusations, um, for like a year before anything we did.
Um, you know, we saw messages of him messaging minors, uh, all of this type of stuff.
So we had an idea of what he was.
It wasn't just like, Oh my God, I didn't know he was like this.
So we actually had a profile and we followed him and we usually don't reach out first, but you know, he had so many followers that this is the chance of him seeing us.
We're pretty low.
So that's why we just said hello to him.
And he says hi back, and then we just ignore him after that because we didn't want to continue the conversation on our end.
Then he double text two days later and says hey, so what you doing completely like unprovoked like we didn't say I'm doing this I'm that he just completely out of nowhere says that and we're like, holy crap So we have 13 on a profile.
He knew we were 13 We of course reiterated we were 13 and then from there he got extremely sexual took a while, but he sent masturbation videos a picture of his own shit, which was probably the most unpleasant pic he sent me that whole thing and What was the legal outcome of that?
solicited sex like he said I want to throw you in a sex dungeon and all that obviously doesn't have a sex dungeon but his mind got wanders pretty much when he thinks of these children and he eventually meets up to go see this kid what was the legal outcome of that unfortunately nothing happened Kern County California does not like civilian cases how often do people send you sick videos like that oh my gosh And then they obviously assume that you're, or they think you're a minor when they send it.
Yeah, so me as a straight male have seen way more penises than vaginas by probably 50-fold.
owen shroyer
So you get this regularly?
alex rosen
Oh yeah.
owen shroyer
Just by saying you're a minor on the internet?
alex rosen
Oh yeah, just today the guy sent five penis pictures that we caught earlier, like just willy-nilly.
owen shroyer
Do you think that Or maybe I'll ask, are there other high-profile individuals on your radar?
alex rosen
At the moment, no.
But, you know, I think there's a lot of people that are preying on kids on our radar, and to those kids, they're definitely high-profile because they want them out of their lives.
That's the way I look at it.
owen shroyer
Well, for those that don't know, you and I actually did a sting together, and I kind of got to see some of the behind-the-scenes of how you operate.
And, I mean, yeah, you have to go into some dark places.
You probably have to do some things that you would even admit is kind of dark as well.
alex rosen
Oh, yeah.
I mean, when we pose as the... I mean, when we're posing as the kid, it's easy.
Like, we're just innocent.
Like, okay, that's fine.
I'll try this.
Like, we don't really have to say much.
But, I mean, having to tell a predator, like, yeah, my preference is 8 to 16.
That's what we told Kevin in Iowa, for example.
We said our preference is 8 to 16.
And just say like, hey bro, you got any infant stuff?
Like, probing to see what they have and then just having those sick conversations, absolutely.
Like I even had to do a video call with a predator as myself.
I was posing as like a father of a nine-year-old girl.
I'm 23, I don't have a nine-year-old girl.
But I was posing as a father of a nine-year-old girl and in that recorded conversation, he admits he's at work just watching child porn.
He brings his laptop to work, he's watching child porn.
His name is David Dunn, he's currently in jail.
owen shroyer
What did he do for a living?
alex rosen
Um, he was a mechanic, but kind of part-time.
He was kind of older at that point.
But, um, yeah.
So we bust him for child porn a couple weeks later.
He's currently sitting in Virginia jail since September.
owen shroyer
Well, the individual that we ended up exposing, and I think his fate was nothing.
I don't think ever law enforcement followed up with that.
alex rosen
Yeah.
Austin is really... It's unfortunate he was in Austin.
We really wanted to get him somewhere else.
owen shroyer
But when I looked at that, that was more of what I would consider kind of a stereotypical catch.
You know, he lives with family in a disheveled house.
Obviously, probably not mentally well.
The situation with whatever family he lives with, obviously not good either.
We could just tell by the situation that he was living in.
How often would you say it's kind of more stereotypical where it's like, yeah, that's what you would expect a predator to look like versus somebody that you would be like, oh, this just seems like a normal guy.
alex rosen
Yeah, that is definitely the plurality, I'd say, of just being a loser.
It's not like they're just total winners in real life and the pedophilia is just the outlier.
Pretty often it is that, but like I said, we catch anybody of all backgrounds.
owen shroyer
You've also done some other videos, like crashing political events.
Why did you decide to crash political events?
alex rosen
I'm just confronting who I think are predators.
Nah, I'm just kidding.
Um, yeah, well, you know, I've always just been the type to just go do it when nobody else has, like even in high school, like I would just scream in the hallways for no reason, kind of like just shouting, just shout out stuff and just whatever.
So I've always been this kind of the louder type.
So, you know, when it comes to political events, like I don't like these politicians.
I think they're truly just slime balls and they're screwing a lot of us over.
But most issues are within ourselves.
Like, we got to figure out our own stuff before we blame a politician.
But nonetheless, they're not helping us in any way.
And, you know, just knowing that I could crash a rally and just kind of say, hey, just call them out for what they are.
They're fellow humans.
They're not just these special people.
I like taking them down a peg.
And I definitely credit Alex Stein for giving me that idea.
I mean, I saw him do it.
I'm like, why not me too?
So.
owen shroyer
Well, and I noticed that, you know, there's kind of a community, because there's other individuals that catch predators like you on the internet.
Would you say there's kind of like a community of y'all?
Do you communicate?
alex rosen
Yeah, there is.
Most of us get along really well with each other.
owen shroyer
And do you guys have similar politics?
alex rosen
Absolutely.
owen shroyer
Interesting.
alex rosen
Absolutely.
I'd say the predator catching, we have like a big group chat on Instagram.
We range from moderate all the way to like far right, so we don't have a single leftist in the group chat with us.
Even the moderate ones.
owen shroyer
Well, they seem to be pro.
alex rosen
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, most people aren't, but institutionally, yes, leftism is pro-predator.
owen shroyer
Yeah, I mean, we see it in the classrooms.
We see it every day with stories where they want to introduce the children to sex toys, sex acts, I mean, even just blatant pornography in the classroom.
alex rosen
Yeah, a hundred percent.
Yeah, I think that, I think that agenda is definitely, I mean, it's poisonous for children.
I mean, that being normalized them at such a young age before their brains develop, yeah, I could absolutely convince them to be something or not.
And I think that is the goal.
Oh, I don't think that's the end goal.
I think the end goal is depopulation, but I think that's one step closer to that.
owen shroyer
Well, they're not gonna be having kids, right, if they engage in that type of ideology and behavior.
You also went undercover exposing ballot harvesting in Texas.
Would you like to talk about that?
alex rosen
Yes, so that was, gosh, that was in 2022.
So all those rumors you hear about like, oh, well, Democrats just take advantage of the old people and just, you know, kind of tell them what to fill out.
That's a real thing.
I mean, I caught that on camera.
I mean, there was just this old guy with a ballot in his hand, and I don't know if she was bending the rules sitting on the fence there, but she was basically saying like, yeah, I'd fill out this guy.
I'd fill out that guy.
And whether it was legal or not, 100% unethical for her to just tell him that, because he wouldn't have known or even voted if it wasn't for her just basically saying, like, hey, do this.
owen shroyer
Well, it's predatory behavior.
alex rosen
It is very predatory, yeah.
owen shroyer
I mean, that's why it kind of fits right into what you're doing, whether it's predators going after children that are unassuming and innocent.
It's kind of the same in that situation, where this is an elderly person, unassuming, innocent, don't really know what's going on.
These people knock at the door, show up and say, hey, we really care about you.
Let's help you vote.
And then write down the ticket.
You want all Democrats.
alex rosen
Yeah, exactly.
Like, basically, you know, like a leading question in a way, it's like they're leading them to just do that.
And I mean, if that's not illegal, it's a very, very smart move, but it's very slimy.
owen shroyer
Well, I'd say it's a pretty safe bet that that's not an isolated incident that you caught.
alex rosen
Oh, hell no.
owen shroyer
No.
Now you have a pretty popular rumble page.
You've got right now 72,000 followers when I checked this morning.
Your average videos now are getting up to tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands.
You've come a long way, but have you endured any censorship along the way from your content creation?
alex rosen
Oh yeah, YouTube has nuked us like seven times.
Rumble has been great.
I wish they would promote us more, but Rumble, I mean, no issues with them.
They let us do our thing.
And Locals has been great too.
They let us do our thing.
So I'm very grateful that I don't have to look over my shoulder to see if I have a career the next day.
owen shroyer
Why would YouTube censor your content?
alex rosen
That's a good question.
owen shroyer
They never gave you a reason.
alex rosen
Uh, they called it harassment and bullying, and I understand back in the day we would scream at them, sure, but now, I mean, they call just simple interviews with the Predators harassment and bullying.
owen shroyer
Now you say back in the day, like, you feel like you've kind of mastered your craft a little bit, polished yourself up a little bit?
alex rosen
Uh, definitely not mastered, but polished for sure.
Polish for sure.
owen shroyer
Okay.
Now, you commented on a breaking story.
The Idaho House passed a bill to give pedophiles the death penalty.
You said this is the way.
Do you really believe that?
alex rosen
Yeah, 100%.
Yeah, of course, there's no perfect solution.
The perfect solution is just, you know, cap it.
Well, I think just doing away with them ASAP.
But the Idaho penalty would be something about like 12 and under, which is a step in the right direction for sure, and I'm definitely not complaining it was passed.
owen shroyer
When you talk about this, are you talking about people that view this content on the internet as well?
Not just people that engage in the sexual abuse?
alex rosen
Yeah, there's some nuance to that.
I think if you're like 19 and a 16-year-old sends you a picture of her nude, I don't think you should be put to death for that, for example.
Because that would still count as child porn.
But yeah, if you're looking at infants, toddlers, even looking at that, There was a study back in the day, I can't cite exactly, but the chance they've done something in person when they're viewing that stuff is very, very high.
owen shroyer
Now people might be shocked by what you just said.
You said infants and toddlers, but this stuff actually exists on the internet.
alex rosen
So common.
So common.
owen shroyer
And you actually run into entire threads on certain platforms or there's entire rooms or websites that are dedicated to this stuff where people just hang out every day to find these images.
alex rosen
Oh yeah, there's groups.
We've heard of over tens of thousands of people, and they just trade that all day long.
owen shroyer
Where do you think these images are generated mostly?
alex rosen
Well, we do ask that question to the people we interview, and a lot of them say they look to be overseas.
So we've heard a lot of India, Southeast Asia, and South America.
owen shroyer
Can you think of any way?
I mean, you might not be an expert in internet or anything like that, but I mean, how can we keep this stuff from getting into our internet and on our phones and computers?
alex rosen
Well there's no perfect solution but I think apps encrypted apps like Telegram of course I don't even think they should be banned because I think our freedom of speech supersedes any type of crime but there has to be sensors for certain images because there's hash values of these images like a lot of these images are spread around so often I would think there's a way they can Just explicitly look for those images and videos without even looking at speech.
So I hope they do something like that.
owen shroyer
What are some of the code words or sayings that you see that lead you down the path that, oh, I know this is where it's going?
alex rosen
Oh, well, pizza is the biggest one.
That's the most common one.
Anytime they say they have pizza, we instantly know.
And we've caught people that we haven't even communicated with online that were just following pizza pages, and they admit to viewing, like, countless files of child porn just based on what they were following on Instagram, just publicly.
We've seen pizza.
We've seen unicorn.
I'm trying to think what else.
Gosh, I'm blanking out here right now.
owen shroyer
But, uh... But you, the individual that, when I went along the ride with you four, I mean, they talk about, they have these massive folders, massive files.
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