July 28, 2025 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux
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So... The Atheists Lied About Lying...
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I mean, that's the beautiful wrapped-in-a-bow meta-narrative of what I was up to for the last couple of days.
I wanted to ask the atheists, why shouldn't you lie?
Knowing that they were going to come right in and lie.
And they did.
And if you lie, you can't progress, right?
If you lie, you cannot progress because you actually are doing the opposite of the truth.
And the pivot to the attack upon Christianity was a way of covering up those lies.
Of course, and, you know, I mean, they're much more likely to criticize Christianity than, say, Islam or Judaism or Hinduism or something else, right?
So that was really fascinating to have my sort of abstract theories about how atheists were going to respond.
And it's kind of cool being back on X because I have access to a much wider and larger group of people, right?
So on the other platforms, I would say that it was like a jazz club.
I mean, small, intimate.
I really enjoyed those years talking.
And we still do that, like Sunday mornings, the 11 a.m.
We're still doing subscriber-only conversations.
So I'm not going to say it was a trap because it's an open question.
Why should you not lie?
And every atheist who came in, lied, claimed to have knowledge they didn't have, which meant they had faith in a truth they did not have.
They pretended a knowledge they did not possess and resisted all attempts to correct them.
In other words, they criticize the Christians or other religious groups for claiming to know something that they don't know.
The existence of God, the divinity of Jesus, and so on, right?
And the atheists say, how dare you?
How dare you pretend to have a knowledge you don't have?
Oh, sorry, one sec.
I got to go talk to staff and pretend I have a knowledge about secular ethics that I don't have.
But you see this mirror image, right?
So yes, I remain a strong atheist.
I've talked about this with Dr. Murphy in a show we did.
We recorded it last week.
It just came out this week.
So, I mean, because I can't overturn the arguments against the existence of God.
I remain a strong atheist.
And although, as I mentioned with Dr. Murphy, I am going to church.
I have done a whole series on Bible verses.
And some of the best people in my life.
Yeah, I think some of the best.
I can't think of, I mean, the best people in my life tend to be Christians.
I mean, and obviously philosophers and philosophy people and so on, right?
So, yeah, because that's not up to me.
It's not up to me.
It is up to reason and evidence.
And again, I'm opening my heart to the evidence.
We'll see what happens.
But yeah, I remain a strong atheist, of course.
I mean, I can't overturn that.
But my goal, of course, was to shake the complacency and vanity.
Because if all you do is compare your imaginary, pure, idealistic, scientific, and rational syllogisms and thoughts to what is, of course, at its essence, a faith-based mission like religion, then you're going to feel like you're in the right and they're in the wrong.
And I understand.
But if that's all, if that's the only place you stay, if you never get somebody serving to your soft spot, you never grow.
And it really was fascinating.
Honestly, I'm telling you, this is going to be studied for centuries.
Like this tweet and its response, I was very conscious of this when I write every response.
It's going to be poured over for centuries.
I'm not kidding about that.
I mean, I know most people won't believe me.
It doesn't matter.
I've got 20 years in the history of philosophy.
I know how this stuff works.
Yeah, it's going to be studied because to have all of these people attack others, like Christians, for claiming a knowledge they don't have, while themselves claiming a knowledge they don't have, for responding to a tweet, why tell the truth by lying and never admitting it, is just absolutely fascinating.
It's fascinating stuff.
And I really do thank all the atheists who came in.
And I hope that the atheists get some humility.
You know, one of the things that's great about Christianity is the humility.
And I hope that the atheists come in and recognize that they don't have good answers for ethics.