July 21, 2025 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux
03:40
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| The confinement, the young generation, Gen Z has gone online. | |
| And the communication culture between young people, we're talking like age 26 and less, has become what you would probably perceive as very difficult, antisocial. | |
| There's social rules that I think you've missed. | |
| Like ghosting is a really tolerated phenomenon now. | |
| You can ghost someone and then text them again and three months later. | |
| So a lot of things are changing. | |
| Hang on, hang on, hang on. | |
| I talked about ghosting as being one of the things that kills men's spirit in the online pursuit of women. | |
| Well, it's acceptable now. | |
| I know it's acceptable. | |
| That's why it happens. | |
| But so around the COVID stuff, you couldn't meet people in person for a lot of places. | |
| And so people went more online. | |
| But hasn't that relaxed since the COVID measures have largely dropped over the last couple of years? | |
| The culture among young people has never reverted. | |
| See, I'm 34. | |
| It doesn't really apply to me so much, but I see it with a lot of my peers. | |
| It's considered antisocial to ask a girl out unless you have some sort of familiarity. | |
| If you go up and ask a girl out. | |
| Sorry, what do you mean by antisocial? | |
| What does that mean? | |
| I'm not disagreeing with you. | |
| I just want to make sure I understand your terms. | |
| I would compare it to the same way certain orthodox religions wouldn't allow a man to just walk up to a woman and ask her out or start a conversation. | |
| This sort of mentality is ingrained in young people now. | |
| No, but that doesn't tell me. | |
| Give me an analogy from religion. | |
| And I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be dancer. | |
| And I'm not disagreeing with you at all. | |
| I just really want to understand what is it because it's intrusive to women? | |
| Is it negative? | |
| Do they not like it? | |
| Is it post-me too? | |
| Like, why is it that talking to women in person or just saying, hi? | |
| Hey, how's it going? | |
| And if the woman is not pleasant or difficult or unpleasant, like mean or that's, I mean, then you just say, oh, have a great day and move on, right? | |
| I think it's because young people are spending so much time on the internet that they're not very socialized and they don't have social skills. | |
| And so if you go up to a girl, you are putting her in a position where she doesn't know what to do. | |
| So you say, hi, may I, would you like to go out on a date with me? | |
| She doesn't know how to respond to that. | |
| And you already know that. | |
| Before you even ask her out, you already know she can't respond to that. | |
| She does not know what to say. | |
| And so it's rude to go up her and approach. | |
| Okay, sorry, sorry. | |
| So you go up and you say, hi, how you doing? | |
| And you try and chat with the woman a little bit. | |
| And then what? | |
| Well, that in itself is rude because you already know she can't respond. | |
| She's confused. | |
| She doesn't have the social skills. | |
| It's completely lost on young people right now. | |
| Okay, so if she doesn't have any social skills, why would you want to date her? | |
| I mean, that would be kind of isolating, right? | |
| It's the culture now. | |
| I mean, this is just the way people are. | |
| Okay, but you're not answering my question. | |
| If the woman doesn't, like, marriage is socializing, right? | |
| You've got to socialize with people's families. | |
| You've got to socialize with their friends. | |
| You've got to socialize at work, and your wife's going to be there a lot of times. | |
| So if she doesn't have any social skills, why would you want to date her? | |
| I mean, a woman who can't even hold a basic conversation. | |
| You have to fit the orthodoxy. | |
| So you don't go up and poach her in person. | |
| That's uncomfortable. | |
| You've got to do it on a dating app or a video game or a shared hobby. | |
| There's an appropriate way to do it in this new internet-centric culture. | |
| Okay, you still haven't answered my question, though. | |
| Yeah, so she does have social skills. | |
| So, yeah, I wouldn't want to marry a girl who had bad social skills. | |
| Of course not. | |
| You just told me she doesn't have the social skills to respond to a basic conversation, and now you're telling me she does have social skills? | |
| It's a different orthodoxy. | |
| It's a totally different orthodoxy than what you and I grew up with. | |
| You have to do it online. | |
| Like the appropriate way to meet a girl. |
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