July 12, 2025 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux
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Married Woman on Working While Having a Child
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Um okay, so um what is your salary?
And again, don't have to get into specifics.
I assume that when you work full-time, do you earn significantly north of six figures?
No, is it six figures?
Me, no.
Our combined household, yes.
Okay, but so for you, I'll be talking 60, 80, something like that?
90.
90, okay.
So the expense of having somebody work is considerable because you have to pay for childcare, you have to pay often for a second car or more.
There is, of course, dry cleaning, there's lunches out, there's gas, there's maintenance, there's a whole bunch of things.
Have you done the spreadsheet to figure out what you're making per expenses of childcare and having a second job are deducted?
Because, of course, what are you taking home after taxes?
Like 60 of the 90, and then you've got to deduct all of the childcare expenses and all the other things.
So what are you making per hour when you have finished all of those calculations?
I haven't run the figures on it.
He has the spreadsheet, not me.
Okay, but I'm sure since it's your life and your motherhood that he's shared with you.
So let's say the 90 nets you 60 at home.
How much is the Montessori per year?
$24,000.
Okay, so 60, you got 24,000 down, which brings you to 36.
And then you probably have to deduct another 10K just for additional expenses and wear and tear on cars and gas and insurance and all that kind of stuff.
So you're looking at $26,000, which is $13 an hour.
Yes, right now.
But he is more future-minded.
So it's in about seven years, I'll probably be out earning him.
Okay, but I'm talking now, because now is when your baby is little, obviously, right?
So is it, would you, are you selling time with your baby for $13 an hour, which is minimum wage?
I am.
Is that a good deal from your baby's perspective?
In other words, when your baby gets older and says, you know, she becomes late single digits, late latency period, early teens, and your baby comes to you and says, you know, I really hated daycare.
Why did you do it?
And you say, well, I got 13 bucks an hour to drop you in daycare.
Will your kid say, yeah, well, I can understand that.
That's a good decision.
That makes sense.
No, she won't.
And that's probably why I feel guilty.
So you've answered my question.
I'm a little, I mean, maybe there's something that I'm not quite understanding.
And I'm not playing dumb.
Like I genuinely don't understand it.
I mean, when you become a parent, you kind of have to do what's best for your child, right?
Yeah.
So is you working, which isn't actually adding much after the expenses to the family income and is negative for your child?
I mean, I've got a whole presentation called The Truth About Daycare, which you should look into about what happens to children in daycare as a whole.
So if you guide yourself as a parent by that which is best for your child as a whole, would you work?
I wouldn't.
Okay.
Does your husband, is he guiding his decisions by what is best for your daughter or some other standard that I'm not quite aware of?
It must be some other standard.
Well, I mean, you know the dude, and what is his standard?
What do you think his standard is that he's judging if it's not what is best for your baby?
Probably what is he's probably okay with sacrifices in the short term for our long-term six years.
No, no, but you can't make sacrifices on behalf of your baby.
That's not how it works.
I'm aware.
That's not a thing.
That's not a thing.
Well, so if you if you, sorry to interrupt, but if you guide by what's best for your baby, you can't say, well, I'm going to sacrifice the baby's happiness for some increased money seven years from now.
That's not your choice to make.
I understand.
I'm just, I'm hoping that there's some logic that you can find in it because my quandary is, do I obey or fight my husband?
And I'm, I don't, like, I don't want to fight him.
No, of course.
And also, if you fight your husband, the stress hormones go into your breast milk, which is also not ideal for your baby, as far as I understand it.
So I'll have a word with your husband in a moment because maybe he'll watch this, right?