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July 12, 2025 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux
05:10
No Benefits to Living Long?!?
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So is it my understanding that every piece of data that I have provided, you disbelieve in?
That there's zero benefits to a men to get married.
I don't disarm.
I disbelieve it.
So you accept that there are some benefits to men to get married.
You don't see those as benefits, though.
Sorry, lower stress levels, better health, and seven to ten years more life is not a benefit.
Seven years more senile life is not a benefit if you spend your life being a slave.
What a good movie you are.
Well, everyone who is old is senile.
How is this moving the goalpost?
Oh, my God.
That's been a bit of a single thing.
How is this moving the goalpost?
I'm addressing you're so full of shit, your eyes are brown, man.
People live longer.
People live to live longer.
People like to live longer.
An additional seven to ten years of life is a benefit to people, which is why they don't kill themselves when they get older and why they strive to get better when they get sick.
But no, everyone in your world, everyone who's older is senile.
And therefore, there's no value in living longer.
Listen to this question.
Would you rather live 40 years being owner of your life and do whatever you want?
Or would you rather live 47 years, but you have to work eight to 10 hours a day to provide for your family?
I'm not sure what you're asking me.
Would you rather live 40 years and do what you want for yourself and take care of yourself and do the thing that you want for you?
Or would you like to live 47 years and have no freedom to do what you want for yourself?
But what I want is a wife and children.
What are you talking about?
Yeah, that is what I want.
That's not the point I'm asking.
I'm asking the question.
You're saying to me, would you rather have a selfish life where you're only about me and I don't have to care about anybody and I can just do whatever the fuck I want without giving a shit about anyone else?
That's an isolated life.
It's an inhuman life.
We are social animals.
And of course, if your parents had been that selfish, I'd be talking to dead air, which I'm actually kind of talking to a half-dead brain, but I'd be talking to dead air because if your parents were as selfish as you are, you wouldn't be here to have all of this hedonism and be there just for you and just to be selfish.
And it's all about you.
If your parents had had your mindset, you wouldn't even be here.
So you can't even universalize the way you think without ceasing to exist.
It's pathetic.
Okay, so you're moving the goalpost.
I'm talking about extension of life.
Now you're putting in another thing, which is the value of creating more life.
No, you said to another, you said, you asked me, would I rather have a life where I got to do whatever I wanted and it would be shorter or a life where I didn't get to do what I wanted and it would be longer.
But I get, as a guy who loves being a husband and loves being a father, I get both.
I get a life that I want and I get better mental health.
I get better physical health.
I get better financial health.
I get love.
I get companionship.
I get support.
I get to live with my best friend and we have the most amazing time together.
So I get to be 47 years and I get to do everything I want.
So it's a false dichotomy to say, well, Steph, if you don't do anything you want, you can live less long, but you'll be happier.
It's like, no, I get both the longevity and the happiness.
So that's a total win.
No.
What I just proved is that there is no value in a longer life if the life is not what you want.
So we are moving.
It is what I want.
You asked me.
You asked me directly.
You asked me directly.
Steph, if you get what you want, then you're alone, right?
Because you'd rather have 40 years, you just do anything you want for yourself.
But what I want is to be a husband, to be in love, to be a father, to make love with my best friend five times a week and have absolutely a wonderful life.
That's what I want.
So it's a false dichotomy to say, Steph, if you're married, you're just not doing what you want.
You're not getting what you want.
I'm getting exactly what I want.
And I get the seven to 10 years extra life and the better financial, psychological, and physical health.
So that's a total win.
Okay, that's your case.
What I'm saying is you asked me my case, bro.
You asked me my case.
You can't say, Steph, here's your choice.
And I say, well, this is how.
Oh, I don't mean you.
You asked me directly.
Come on.
What I'm saying, what I'm saying is that you, even in your case, the seven years don't do it's not a big difference if you do what you want with your life.
If you live 40 years and you do what you want with your life, what you want is a family and having sex with your best friend, that's good.
You do it for 47 years, for 40 years.
Not that big of a difference.
So a seven-year lifespan is not a seven-year-old.
Seven to ten years is not a big difference.
It's more important to do what you want in your life, not seven more years out of 60 to 70 that we all hopefully live.
Right.
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