June 12, 2025 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux
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| So, almost like having a preference over something. | |
| It's a hierarchy of preferences. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And you use it to direct your attention. | |
| Right. | |
| Okay, so it's a hierarchy of preferences, and you use it to direct your attention, okay? | |
| Whatever you're attending to, you're worshipping. | |
| Right. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| Whatever you're attending to, you're worshipping. | |
| So, he is now attending to this woman, having a conversation with her. | |
| That's some lovely skin, by the way. | |
| Sorry, I didn't mean to get all Hannibal Lecter on you. | |
| So he is attending to this woman because he's having a conversation with her. | |
| He's not having a conversation with the other 19 atheists around. | |
| He's not doing cartwheels. | |
| He's not getting his teeth checked by his dentist. | |
| He's attending to this conversation. | |
| And clearly, because he's doing this rather than everything else, this is his highest priority. | |
| Does this mean he worships this woman? | |
| Does he mean this worships this conversation? | |
| I don't. | |
| Yeah, do I worship driving to work in the morning? | |
| It's what you're doing. | |
| So whatever you're doing is your highest priority. | |
| So it's not enough of a definition, and it's not even close enough of a definition. | |
| And this is why, you know, if these people have been trained, I hate to be, if these people have just been, but if these people have been trained more in just sort of basic philosophy, you're saying, okay, are you saying that worship is synonymous to prioritization, or how do you differentiate the two? | |
| So I've kind of become a little bit familiar with your idea of this value-laden hierarchy. | |
| And you kind of posit that at the bottom of this hierarchy, or you call it top or bottom, I suppose, at the bottom of this hierarchy, this foundational priority in your life is going to be considered God. | |
| At the bottom? | |
| Hang on. | |
| She's a normal speed talker, so I'm going to zoom her up a little bit. | |
| At the bottom of this hierarchy, this foundational priority in your life is going to be considered That would be the least, like, I guess invading Haiti, which apparently is a thing, kind of on Twitter. | |
| Invading Haiti is really at the bottom of my list of priorities. | |
| I'm sure there's a bunch of stuff. | |
| Things I'll never do, right? | |
| Things that I would never consider, right? | |
| So I'm not sure where the bottom part comes in. | |
| Oh, I just noticed that she's an atheist and she has two-thirds of 666 on her shirt. | |
| All right. | |
| That's correct. | |
| Yes. | |
| Right. | |
| I'm trying to imagine a situation in which could there be that someone has a priority at their foundation that is different from someone else's? | |
| Oh, definitely. | |
| Right. | |
| So we can have different conceptions of God. | |
| That's why we fight. | |
| Right. | |
| We have different conceptions of God. | |
| That's why we fight. | |
| Okay. | |
| So then if Jordan is saying that there's not an objective definition, of God, then he's saying that God is subjective and personal. | |
| We don't have a subjective definition of gravity. | |
| I can't, you know, la la la, put my fingers in my ears and close my eyes and say that gravity is no longer existing. | |
| Gravity is no longer valid, right? | |
| I can't hold my head underwater and say, oh, I can breathe, right? | |
| So there's objective facts of reality that we measure. | |
| According to empirical observation, and they're not subject to our willpower. | |
| So if he's saying that God is a concept that exists in the mind, very true, absolutely a valid argument, right? | |
| That God is a concept that exists in our mind, perfectly true. | |
| But if it can't be compared to any external proof, then it remains a concept that only exists within the mind and therefore does not exist out there in reality. | |
| Because we all have concepts in the mind that don't exist in reality. | |
| Well, there's three categories, right? | |
| The first is things we know that do exist. | |
| Secondly is things that could exist. | |
| And thirdly is things that can't exist, right? | |
| So we know that giraffes exist, right? | |
| We cannot rule out that there are no dragons anywhere in the universe. | |
| It's completely impossible because dragons are not self-contradictory entities. | |
| Right? | |
| Giant flying lizards are not self-contradictory entities by their nature, right? | |
| Because we know that the things that fly, we know that there are lizards and so on. | |
| Can they breathe fire? |
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