March 21, 2025 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux
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People Without Kids
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Somebody says, again, freedomain.com to help out the show.
I know we're a little early or whatever.
If you're hearing this later, I'd appreciate it.
Somebody says, my sister has three dogs, a fiancé, and no kids.
She told me a month ago their relationship is at a breaking point.
I think she's living a lie, and she's self-medicating her depression.
They've been together for 10+ years.
Now, I know that there's people who can't have kids, and I understand all of that.
I sympathize with that as a whole.
But I'm not particularly interested in relationships with people who don't have children, or who choose not to have children.
Let's just say that, right?
I'm not particularly interested in relationships like, oh, they've been together for 10 years, and they never got married, they don't have any kids.
I don't care.
I don't care.
It's sort of like going to a road designer and saying, Well, you know, you've got to build the road so that bicyclists can use it.
You've got to really care about the bicyclist.
It's like, I mean, I know that there are bike lanes and all that kind of crap, but, you know, before that, the road designers were like, no, no, no, I'm building the road for cars.
I mean, I guess people on bikes can use it, but I'm building the road for cars.
I'm really not going to take much into account of the bicyclists, right?
And marriage is for the having and raising of children, and people who live together and don't have children, I don't, you know, I don't particularly care about their relationship.
Because it's not real in the way that...
It's sort of like...
Can you imagine a movie where you're watching a high-stakes poker game?
You think there's millions of dollars on the table, and it turns out it's just a bunch of teenagers who are playing for nothing.
Then the stakes are just enormously lower.
It's not a real game.
I mean...
If somebody's gambling their money in the stock market, that's one thing.
If somebody's gambling their money on a made-up pretend stock market, then it's not really that important, right?
It doesn't really matter.
Not that important.
It doesn't matter.
So, what do I...
I just don't...
I just can't get interested in...
Have we been together 10 years?
We don't have any kids?
It's like, yeah, stay together, break up.
I don't...
I mean...
You have no part of the future.
Thank you, Matt.
I mean, you have no part of the future.
You're not going to be around.
Everything's going to die with you.
You have no part of the future.
You have no part of the future.
I mean, if I was a coach and how much investment would I put into somebody I knew was only going to show up for a couple of coaching sessions and then quit, right?
Now, I want, you know, if I'm a coach and I want my No.
Would you be particularly interested or would you particularly care about them as the recipient of your coaching?
No. After 10 years, what are they waiting for that is going to change for the better?
The number of people that I've known over the years who get to five years and then break up, it's legion.
It's very common if they don't have kids.
Because your body's like, okay, so clearly if you're with a woman for five years and you don't have kids, then your body, deep down, your lizard brain says, oh, she's infertile.
So we've got to move on.
We've got to detach from this person and you wake up and you're just out of love like that.
Because remember, All of this romantic love, sexual love, is to do with having a raising of children.
And so, if your body, deep down, your lizard brain is like, well, it's been five years, we don't have any kids yet, so she's infertile, we've got to fall out of love with her, and we've got to go fall in love with someone who's going to give us kids.
So, all relationships as a whole, where there are no children, and it's a choice, right?
It's a choice.
All relationships where there's no children, the couple generally falls out of love, and it fades out.
And it's five to ten years, usually around five years.
You can drag it out for longer if you want.
At some point, at some point, your genes are just like, nope, we're not here for sex, we're not here for fun, we're not here for companionship, we're here to make babies.
We're here to make babies!
Because all of your genes that didn't care about making babies didn't survive and didn't flourish.
So, in a relationship, again, talking about younger people as a choice, you aim for babies or you break up over time.
Now, Of course, everyone can go, I know a couple, too.
Yeah, talk in general.
Talk in general.
Live on Friday afternoon.
Very cool.
Yes, it is.
Yeah, Larry King married younger, had children with all his wives, yeah.
And Anthony Quinn had a kid, as did Mick Jagger and that kid much later, 70s, 80s, whatever, right?
I'm not saying that's ideal, right?
You should try to have kids younger as a man because your sperm quality deteriorates over time.
She is my sister, though.
I tried getting her to do a call-in show, and I even offered to call in with her.
Nope. Why are you so invested in your sister's love life?