All Episodes
Previous Next
March 12, 2025 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux
03:57
Is It Okay for Girls to Go Out to Clubs?
| Copy link to current segment

Time Text
All right.
I had a friend I knew since high, I think you mean school, who dumped something like 30,000 to 50,000 Canadian on his trollop of a girlfriend who went clubbing without him.
He paid for her Uber rides, dinners, drove 100 kilometers to see her.
He never worked a real job and was spending his dad's money on her for the most part, mid-twenties.
I got away from him.
Yeah.
Yes, very sad.
Very sad.
It's funny because there is this conversation.
Now, I obviously don't want to take the Whatever podcast to be generally representative of modern women, although I know there are some people who do think that it is, and I'm half and half.
I think the podcast is very interesting, and they're good debaters.
The men are good debaters, and they have very succinct and brilliant things to say, so there's that.
I think, of course, bringing on sex workers with no particular experience in intellectual conversations is a little bit of a clay pigeon shoot when the clay pigeons are stapled to the end of your gun.
But there is this debate that goes on on the Whatever podcast, which is, is it acceptable if a woman is in a relationship, like she's a girlfriend, is it acceptable for her to go to bars and clubs, you know, dressed up, sexy, on her own, right?
It's a big...
It's a big question.
I've never faced that because generally, I don't know how to praise myself, but generally the fact is that when I was dating women, they'd want to spend time with me.
Now, if we went to a club, we would go to a club.
I started to go to clubs when I was like 15 or 16 years of age to even like 19 plus nightclubs.
I learned how to dance and how to be cool.
And I remember my social cachet went up quite a bit in high school when I'd be going to clubs for like six months.
And a bunch of kids from, the cool kids from high school showed up at the club and I was out there dancing with girls and chatting with people and all that.
And my social cachet just kind of went through the roof.
I remember that quite clearly.
They were all kind of amazed to be there.
And I was like, hey, how you doing?
So, daddy, daddy cool, Joe smooth, chick magnet.
So, yeah, this sort of question, well, girls go to clubs.
And of course, the girls all say the same thing.
It's kind of like an NPC thing, which is like, well, if you don't want me to go to clubs, You're just insecure, right?
But of course, it's not just a matter of insecurity.
It's that if you want to be in a monogamous relationship, then you have to get your attractiveness and sexual validation from your partner.
I mean, my wife and I are constantly telling each other how much we are attracted to each other, how great we look, and all of that.
And so you've got to get your, you know, your eat at home, so to speak, right?
So the idea that a woman would go out to clubs, Because she wants other guys to desire her.
That's generally what's going on.
So it's not just a matter of insecurity.
It's, well, clearly you want validation from other men, which goes against your monogamy.
It goes against monogamy.
It's just not a matter of trust.
And so the general argument is that when a girl goes to a club and she's dressed sexy and puts her makeup, does her hair and so on, she's putting on a mating display and she's around a whole bunch of men.
Who will mate with her like that, right?
I mean, if an attractive woman at a nightclub goes to a guy and says, let's go have sex, the majority of guys will say, yep, yep, on it, right?
So it would be like if a guy went out with an ex-girlfriend who was desperate to have sex with him and be in a relationship with him again, she would have a problem with that.
She should.
And she would say, well, because that woman wants you.
She wants to get back together with you.
She'll do anything to get in your pants.
It's like, well, that's guys in clubs.
▲
Export Selection